House Plenary: FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 1 Part 1 - September 15, 2026

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Session resumed. Majority Leader.

Rep. Ryan S. Recto

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Madam Speaker, considering that copies of Journal No. 7 dated September 7 to 9, 2026 were already distributed to the members, I move to dispense with the reading thereof and subsequently to approve the said journal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Is there an objection?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The chair hears none. The motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The reading of the said journal is dispensed with and journal number 7 dated September 7 to 9, 2026 is hereby approved.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader?

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

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Madam Speaker, I move to take up additional reference of business and may I request the Secretary General be directed to read the titles of bills, resolutions on first reading, as well as communications and committee.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Is there an objection?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The chair hears none.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The Secretary General is directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading, as well as messages, communications, and committee reports for referral to the appropriate committees.

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Secretary-General

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Additional reference of business.

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Secretary-General

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Bills on first reading.

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Secretary-General

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House Bill No. 11243, further amending the Magna Carta for PWDs to provide for the lifetime validity of ID cards issued to persons with permanent disability.

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Secretary-General

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For Representative Olivares.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Special Committee on Persons with Disabilities.

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House Bill No. 11244, instituting a comprehensive housing program for public school teachers.

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Secretary-General

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For Representative Olivares.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Housing and Urban Development.

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Secretary-General

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House Bill No. 11245, prohibiting the pass-through and recovery of system loss charges from electricity consumers.

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Secretary-General

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For Representative Olivares.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Energy.

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Secretary-General

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House Bill No. 11245, prohibiting the pass-through and recovery of system loss charges from electricity consumers.

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House Bill No. 11246, prohibiting threatening, harassing, coercive, and abusive debt collection practices by online lending applications, digital credit providers, financing companies, lending companies, and other similar entities.

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Secretary-General

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For Representative Olivares.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Banks and Financial Intermediaries.

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House Bill No. 11247, providing incentives and financial assistance for the modernization of public utility jeepneys and tricycles,

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ensuring the protection of drivers and small transport operators,

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during the transition.

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For Representative Olivares.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Transportation.

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House Bill No. 11248, strengthening the mental health services of SUCs.

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For Representative Tianko.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Higher and Technical Education.

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House Bill No. 11249, reestablishing the Presidential Commission on Good Government,

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creating the Anti-Corruption and Forfeiture Commission.

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For Representative Tan Keith Maika.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Justice and the Committee on Government Reorganization,

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House Bill No. 11250, further strengthening the Anti-Money-Laundering Council.

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For Representative Tan Keith Maika.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Banks and Financial Intermediaries.

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House Bill No. 11251, establishing a DFA Passport Satellite Office in Lilawan, Cebu.

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For Representative Prasco.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Foreign Affairs.

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House Bill No. 11252, establishing the Philippine Safe Sports Center,

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institutionalizing a national airport,

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and the Athlete Safeguarding System.

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For Representative Nazal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Youth and Sports Development.

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House Bill No. 11253, promoting urban flood resilience and rainwater harvesting

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through the adoption of a National Urban Drainage and Runoff Management Code.

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For Representative Nazal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Public Works and Highways.

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House Bill No. 11254, declaring it a policy of the State to provide universal access

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to reliable, affordable, and environmentally sustainable electricity.

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Establishing a comprehensive program for the solar electrification of barangays that remain off-grid.

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For Representative Nazal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Energy.

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House Bill No. 11255, recognizing motorcycles as public utility vehicles.

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For Representative Nazal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Transportation.

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House Bill No. 11256, prohibiting the direct or indirect recovery from water consumers

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of costs attributable to non-revenue water, requiring water service providers

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to reduce and publicly disclose water losses.

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For Representative Nazal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Public Works and Highways.

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House Bill No. 11257, establishing the Overseas Filipino Workers Pension Fund

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to provide pension to overseas Filipino workers.

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For Representative Nazal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Overseas Workers Affairs.

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House Bill No. 11258, strengthening government support for the digital transformation of MSMEs

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through e-commerce and responsible use of AI.

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For Representative Nazal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Micro-Small and Medium Enterprise Development.

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House Bill No. 11259, promoting the widespread use of solar power among Filipinos,

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providing incentives for solar energy adoption, establishing the Solar Power Access Program.

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For Representative Nazal.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Energy.

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Resolution.

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House Resolution 1442, congratulating and commending Lea Salonga for her historic achievement

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as the first Filipina to receive a star on the Hollywood...

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Walk of Fame, and recognizing her extraordinary contributions to the performing arts,

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Filipino culture, and global entertainment.

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For Representative Olivares.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Special Committee on Creative Industries.

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Committee Reports.

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Committee Report No. 639 and 640, submitted by the Committee on Legislative Franchises,

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on House Bill No. 11310 and 11311.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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For the Committee on Rules.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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On the part of the majority, I move to nominate and elect

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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to the Committee on Appropriations as Vice Chairperson,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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Representative Carl Fernandez Legazpi.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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An objection? Hearing none, the motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The Honorable Carl Legazpi of Pinoy Workers Party

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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is hereby elected as Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Session suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Session resumed.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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Madam Speaker, before we proceed with the sponsorship and plenary deliberations on House Bill No. 10858, I move to recognize the Hon. Perci Cendaña of Akbayan Partylist for a brief manifestation.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The Hon. Perci Cendaña of Akbayan Partylist is hereby recognized for his manifestation.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Magandang hapon po sa ating mga kasamahan dito sa kapulongan ito at sa mga kababayan nating nanonood ngayon, lalong-lalo na ang mga miyembro ng Civil Society Organization.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Madam Speaker, my dear colleagues, this representation would like to raise an important concern from our Civil Society Organization.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Last year po, nagkaroon tayo ng guidelines on CSO participation. Ito po ang chinampion ng ating good chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Chair Mika Suansing. Hindi naman po ito bago. May ganito na rin pong effort noong 15 Congress in 2006.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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It seems that while we are driving towards the right direction, this year, parang biglang nag-U-turn po tayo.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Our CSOs are sharing their frustration about how they are being treated in the budget process for the 2027 General Appropriations Bill.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Sa isang inquiry article,

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nabanggit po ng mga CSO na sila daw ay na-seen zone, ni hindi nalaman that we adopted last year's guidelines until week 2 of our budget deliberations.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Tapos ngayon, parang naghahabol tayo to bring them and draw them in.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Kaya po ang tanong natin, Madam Speaker, my dear colleagues, aniyari?

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Saan po tayo nagkaroon ng gap in terms of coordinating with our CSOs?

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Wala na bang mas makabulang participation than their questions being read out?

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Will CSOs be informed and involved at sa magiging amendments sa budget through the BAR-C?

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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And most importantly, nagkaroon lang po ba ng guidelines on CSO participation last year dahil nabuking ang flood control projects?

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Sa totoo lamang po, Madam Speaker, napakahalagan na ang transparency in winning back the confidence of our people in the budget process in this House.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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What we began last year was a very significant and important step and we have to learn from that.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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And from the unfortunate experiences of our CSO representatives this year.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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We hope that it's not too late for the House leadership to take this matter seriously and act on it.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Hindi na pwedeng ipalusot lang sa kanila na we're still learning.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Pera ng taong bayan, sa bulsa ng mamamayang Pilipino galing, ang pinag-uusapan nating P7.2 trillion na ito.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Sa dulo po, hayaan po natin ang meaningful participation ng civil society organizations to define the kind of budget,

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that our country really needs.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

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Marami pong salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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Madam Speaker, under the calendar of business for the day, I move to consider House Bill No. 10858 as contained in Committee Report No. 638,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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submitted by the Committee on Appropriations, and for this purpose, may request the Secretary-General be directed to read the title of the measure.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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An objection?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Hearing none, the Secretary-General is hereby

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directed to read the title of House Bill No. 10858.

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Secretary-General

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House Bill No. 10858, an Act Appropriating Funds for the Operation of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines from January 1 to December 31, 2027.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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Madam Speaker, I move to open the period of sponsorship and debate on general principles and provisions.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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An objection?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Hearing none, said motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The period of sponsorship and debate on general principles is hereby opened.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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Madam Speaker.

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I move to recognize the Chairperson

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of the Committee on Appropriations

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Representative

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Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

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of the 1st District of Nueva Ecija

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Hearing none, the Honorable Swansing is hereby recognized

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Thank you very much

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Madam Speaker

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Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues

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Esteemed Members of the

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Development Budget Coordination Committee

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or the DBCC

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Fellow Public Servants

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Partners from Civil Society Organizations

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and to the Filipino public

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closely watching today's deliberations

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Magandang araw po sa ating lahat

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Today, we open

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the plenary deliberations

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for the Fiscal Year 2027

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General Appropriations Bill

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The backbone of our fiscal policy

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and the clearest mirror

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of our government's priorities

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The Constitution entrusts

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Congress with the power of the purse

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A solemn responsibility

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that demands integrity

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and vigilance

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The plenary deliberations

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of the General Appropriations Bill

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are among the greatest exercises

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of our democracy

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The spirited debates

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that will result from these discussions

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should ensure

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that the General Appropriations Act

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will represent the priorities

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and necessities of every Filipino

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from every corner of our archipelago

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Our challenge

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is to ask the difficult questions

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test every assumption

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and demand full justification

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for every line item on the budget

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to ensure that every peso

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is grounded in science

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feasibility

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and genuine need

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na ang bawat linya sa HGAB

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ay may saysay

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tiyak na kapaki-pakinabang

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at direkta ang makakabuti

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sa bawat pamilyang Pilipino

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We deliberate on the proposed

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7.2 trillion peso

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for the government of the Philippines

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under the fiscal year 2027

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national budget

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under a challenging fiscal landscape

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The country is grappling

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with slower economic growth

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inflationary pressures

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rising debt obligations

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geopolitical conflict

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volatile fuel prices

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and climate-related risks

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all of which place greater constraints

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on our fiscal space

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The DBCC has anchored

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the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget

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on the following assumptions

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and projections

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GDP growth at 5-6%

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inflation within 4-5%

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fiscal deficit

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at 5.1% of GDP

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debt to GDP ratio

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of 64.6%

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Our goal

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over the course of these deliberations

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is to craft a

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2027 national budget

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that would accelerate growth

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despite this challenging fiscal landscape

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which would give due consideration

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and prioritization

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to the pressing needs

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of our most salient social

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and economic sectors

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It is our objective

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to ensure that every aspect

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of the budget must act towards

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capacitating every Filipino

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through quality education

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and health care

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stronger social services

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quality jobs

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in conjunction to ensuring food and energy security

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critical infrastructure

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and climate resilience

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The proposed fiscal year

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2027 General Appropriations Bill

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was crafted in line

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with the goals

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of the Philippine Development Plan

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2023 to 2028

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and our ambition

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2040

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under the theme

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People-Centered Growth

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for an Inclusive and Resilient Future

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Under the proposed fiscal year

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2027 General Appropriations Bill

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education currently has an allocation

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of 1.326 trillion pesos

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across basic

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higher and technical

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vocational education

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representing a strong commitment

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to invest in our next generation

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Health remains a central priority

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with a current allocation

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of 353.76 billion pesos

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across the Department of Health

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PhilHealth

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and our specialty hospitals

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To directly support

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the most vulnerable families

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and to provide timely aid

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for various sectors

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the Department of Social Welfare and Development

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has allocated

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a total allocation

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of 241.56 billion pesos

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The Agriculture and Agrarian Reform Sector

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is currently allocated

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276.57 billion pesos

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towards ensuring food security

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and the welfare

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of our beloved farmers

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and fisherfolk

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The allocations for these

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as well as other sectors

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will be subjected to further

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rigorous scrutiny

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over the course of the plenary deliberations

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The final allocations

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are truly reflective of

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and responsive to the needs

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of our kababayan

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Bukod po dito

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alinsunod sa panawagan

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ng ating mga kababayan

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na mas maging bukas ang proseso

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ng pagbuon ng budget

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matagumpay pong sinimulan

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ng inyong Kongreso noong nakaraang taon

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ang mga mahalagang reforma

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We enacted a series

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of structural reforms

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that place transparency

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and accountability

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and public participation

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at the center of our budget process

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At ang ating mga magagandang na simulan

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noong nakaraang taon

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ipinagpapatuloy po natin

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sa pagbuon ng budget

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para sa taong 2027

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Having successfully abolished

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the Small Committee

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and constituting

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the Budget Amendments Review Subcommittee

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or BARC last year

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the BARC will once again

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deliberate on amendments

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to the 2027 HGAB

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in a manner that is

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open and transparent to the public

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The BARC will work

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over the next few weeks

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in crafting refinements

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to the General Appropriations Bill

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that will be put forth

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later on

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for the consideration

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of the House

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before the House General Appropriations Bill

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is approved on second reading

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asr-000477

This Congress

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has continually engaged

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with civil society organizations

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over the course of these deliberations

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and conducted

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the second People's Budget Review

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before the start

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of these debates

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Moreover,

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we are happy to report that

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the Civil Society Organization

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and People's Organization Corner

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is now live

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in the House of Representatives

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website

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and that is

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a portal through which

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our civil society organization partners

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can access all pertinent documents

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for example

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a copy of the House General Appropriations Bill

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the copy of the schedules

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and the videos

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the links to all the livestreams

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asr-000501

of committee and plenary

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as well as BARC deliberations

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asr-000503

We want to engage

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civil society organizations

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meaningfully Madam Speaker

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and we are taking all

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the steps we could

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to make that happen

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Moreover,

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we are coordinating with our counterparts

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in the Senate to open the

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Bicameral Conference Committee Proceedings

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to the public for the second year

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in history

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asr-000515

Matibay po ang paninindigan

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ng inyong Kongreso na

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asr-000517

tanggalin ang tabing

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sa usaping budget

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at talagang ipakita kung

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saan napupunta ang bawat piso

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ng buwis na mula sa dugo

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at pawis ng bawat Pilipino.

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Madam Speaker

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Distinguished colleagues

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asr-000525

This budget

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must be more than a spreadsheet of numbers

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It must be a

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covenant of accountability

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This budget must embody

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our collective resolve

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to build a stronger and better

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future for every Filipino

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This budget needs

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to hold a hope for a nation

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where no Filipino is left

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behind

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I stand before this Chamber today

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at eight and a half months pregnant

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asr-000539

I do so

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because the power of the purse

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is not a privilege we exercise

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asr-000542

when convenient

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asr-000543

It is a constitutional duty

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we owe to the Filipino people

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in every season

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and under every circumstance

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Long after this plenary ends

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a generation of

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Filipinos will live

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asr-000550

with what we decide

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asr-000551

inside this August Chamber

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asr-000552

Let them find

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asr-000553

that we decided well

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asr-000554

Nawa'y matagpuan

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asr-000555

ng susunod na salinlahi

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asr-000556

na tayo'y tumindig

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ng tapat sa ating tungkulin.

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asr-000558

Madam Speaker

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I humbly sponsor

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the proposed General Appropriations

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Bill for Fiscal Year

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2027 and respectfully

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seek the support of our distinguished

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colleagues in the House

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for its passage

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Together, let us ensure

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that this budget reflects

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the aspirations of our people

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and strengthens trust

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in our institutions

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Sa bawat proyekto,

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ang mamamayan ang dapat nasa sentro.

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Sa bawat alokasyon,

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ang kapakanan ng taong bayan

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asr-000575

ang dapat maging pangunahing batayan.

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Maraming salamat po.

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asr-000577

Para sa Diyos at bayan.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000579

Madam Speaker

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000580

I move to suspend session for a few minutes

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000581

Session suspended

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000587

Session resumed

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000588

Majority Leader

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000589

Madam Speaker

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000590

May we acknowledge the presence

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asr-000591

from the Development Budget

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asr-000592

Coordination Committee

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from the

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Department of Budget and Management

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asr-000595

Acting Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000596

Under Secretary Janet B. Abuel

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000597

Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000598

Mary Anne Z. Dela Vega

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000599

Under Secretary

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asr-000600

Ryan S. Lita

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000601

Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000602

Goddes Hope O. Libiran

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asr-000603

Under Secretary

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asr-000604

Wilford Will L. Wong

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From the Department of Economy, Planning and Development

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asr-000606

Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan

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Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000608

Rosemarie G. Edillon

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asr-000609

Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000610

Dennis S. Mapa

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asr-000611

Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000612

Joseph J. Capuno

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asr-000613

Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000614

Melbourne Ziro D. Pana

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asr-000615

Under Secretary

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asr-000616

Glenda R. Rumohr

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asr-000617

From the Department of Finance, Under Secretary

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asr-000618

[unclear] S. Adriano

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asr-000619

Under Secretary Rolando T. Ligon, Jr.

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asr-000620

Under Secretary

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asr-000621

Catherine L. Fong

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asr-000622

Under Secretary

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asr-000623

Maria Angela E. Ignacio

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asr-000624

Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000625

Joven Z. Balbosa

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asr-000626

Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000627

Krystal Lyn T. Uy

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000628

and OIC

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asr-000629

Under Secretary

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000630

Niño Raymond B. Alvina

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asr-000631

From the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas

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asr-000632

Deputy Governor

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-000633

Mamerto E. Tangonan

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000634

To the officials of the

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Department of Budget and Management

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000636

headed by our Acting Secretary

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000637

Kim Robert C. De Leon

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000638

From the Department of Economy, Planning and Development

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000639

headed by the

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000640

Honorable Secretary Arsenio Balisacan

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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From the Department of Finance

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headed by

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Under Secretary

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000644

Karlo Fermin Adriano

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000645

under the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000646

represented by Deputy Governor

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000647

Mamerto Tangonan

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000648

At sa lahat ng

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000649

kaakibat sa DBCC

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000650

family, maraming salamat

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000651

sa inyong presensya.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Your tolerance,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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patience, sacrifice

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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and hard work is truly

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appreciated by the Filipino people.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000656

Welcome to the House

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of the People.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

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Madam Speaker, I move to recognize

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Chairwoman

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

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Mika Suansing

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000662

Chairperson of the Committee of

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

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Appropriations to answer questions

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000664

on General Principles and

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000665

Provisions.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000665-split-2

The Honorable

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000666

Mika Suansing is recognized.

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000667

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000668

I move to recognize

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000669

our first interpellator,

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000670

Minority Leader Marcelino

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000671

C. Libanan.

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000672

Sorry, ma'am, I withdraw my motion.

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000673

Ma'am, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000674

I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000675

Session suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000680

Session resumed.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000681

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000682

Madam Speaker, I move to recognize

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000683

Minority Leader, the Honorable

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000684

Marcelino C. Libanan

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000685

from the 4Ps Party-list to interpellate

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-000686

the sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000687

The brilliant legislator

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000688

from the province of Samar,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000689

the Honorable Minority Leader

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000690

representing 4Ps

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000691

Party-list,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000692

Nonoy Libanan is hereby recognized

Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-000693

for his interpellation.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000694

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000695

And good afternoon

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000696

to our sponsor,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000697

Honorable

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000698

Suansing and

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000699

the DBCC family.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000700

Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000701

before we discuss

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000702

individual departments,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000703

may I begin with the principles

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000704

that should govern

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000705

this entire bill.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000706

A national budget

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000707

is more than a table

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000708

of appropriations.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000709

It tells us what government

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000710

considers important,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000711

who bears the burden

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000712

when fiscal space

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000713

is tight, where development

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000714

will occur, and what

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000715

safeguards Congress

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000716

places around the people's

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000717

money.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000718

There are provisions in this bill

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000719

that deserve recognition.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000720

The significance

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000721

reduction in unprogrammed

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000722

appropriations is one.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000723

Greater transparency

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000724

in those budget processes

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000725

is another.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000726

But precisely

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000727

because Congress has improved

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000728

the process,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000729

we should now ask the harder questions

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000730

about the substance.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000731

How much of this

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000732

7.2 trillion

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000733

do we actually control?

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000734

Are appropriations

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000735

specific enough?

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000736

For Congress to know

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000737

where the money will go?

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000738

Do the special provisions

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000739

preserve congressional intent?

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000740

Are constitutional

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000741

priorities protected?

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000742

Is spending

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000743

geographically fair?

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000744

And what

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000745

measurable results

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000746

should the people expect

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000747

in return?

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000748

Those are the principles

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000749

by which the minority

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000750

proposes to examine this bill.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000751

The General Appropriations Act

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000752

is not merely

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000753

a schedule of amounts.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000754

It is the principal

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000755

instrument through which Congress

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000756

determines priorities,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000757

imposes conditions

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000758

on expenditure,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000759

safeguards public money,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000760

and holds

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000761

executive accountable

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000762

for results.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000763

Madam Sponsor,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000764

Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000765

would you agree

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000766

that Congress is not entirely free

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000767

to rank all expenditures equally

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000768

because the Constitution itself

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000769

establishes certain priorities,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000770

most expressly

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000771

the command to assign

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000772

the highest budgetary priority

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000773

to education?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000774

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, yes. Um,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000777

however, in that particular instance,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000778

it is actually for the benefit

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000779

of our countrymen that such

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000780

provision which states that education

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000781

has to be the highest budgetary

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000782

allocation,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000783

it's actually beneficial to our countrymen.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000784

Then, Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000785

when Congress

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000786

evaluates this bill, shouldn't we look

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000787

not merely on whether education

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000788

receives the largest

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000789

nominal amount, but whether

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000790

our overall fiscal choices

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000791

preserve constitutional priorities

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000792

given to education

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000793

despite

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000794

rising automatic obligation?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000795

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000796

distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000797

yes, I agree with

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000798

our distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000799

However, when we look at the budget

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000800

and we determine

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000801

the allocations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000802

for the different agencies,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000803

we look at it at a holistic level.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000804

But, yes, I agree, Madam Speaker.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000805

Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000806

I raised this question because

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000807

comparison between

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000808

the interest payment

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000809

and the budget

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000810

for DepEd

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000811

is 1.114 trillion

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000812

for interest payments

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000813

and

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000814

976 billion

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000815

for the Department

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000816

of Education.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000817

Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000818

would the sponsor

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000819

agree?

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000820

That, as a general rule,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000821

Congress should prepare

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000822

specific itemized appropriations

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000823

over broad lump sums

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000824

whenever the expenditure

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000825

can reasonably be identified

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000826

in advance?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000827

Yes, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000828

distinguished colleague, I agree.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000829

Where possible, we would prefer

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000830

specific line items over lump sum amounts.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000831

Thank you, Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000832

for that answer.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000833

But, Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000834

there are items

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000835

which we cannot really calculate.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000836

Example, calamities.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000837

We shall have

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000838

leeway for that.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000839

It cannot be predicted.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000840

But roads, bridges,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000841

buildings, and other

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000842

identified infrastructure

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000843

normally can be.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000844

Can the sponsor

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000845

therefore assure the House

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000846

that broad lump sums

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000847

have not simply been

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000848

migrated from

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000849

unprogrammed appropriations

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000850

into programmed appropriations

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000851

or special provision?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000852

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000853

Distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000854

with regard to that particular instance,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000855

in response to the calamities,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000856

we do have

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000857

the NDRRMF, which at the moment has an allocation of 45.67 billion. While that is a lump sum amount, we do have within it QRF allocations for the different agencies.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000858

In that case, given that it needs to be flexible to be able to respond to whichever agencies, calamities, or activities would need to be funded at a particular time, for this particular instance, a lump sum amount is actually preferable for the NDRRMF.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000859

Thank you for that, Madam Speaker.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000860

Because our country is most often visited by typhoons and catastrophes.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000861

Would the sponsor agree that a special provision should implement an appropriation approved by Congress and should not effectively create a new spending authority that is broader than the appropriation itself?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000862

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, a special provision sets the condition by which an appropriation can be disbursed.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000863

So, a special provision emanates from the appropriation itself.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000864

So, in theory, technically speaking, a special provision would not supersede a particular appropriation.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000865

And this conforms to our Constitution and applicable law.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000866

Madam Speaker.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000867

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000868

Then, can the sponsor assure this Chamber that there is no provision in this bill that allows funds appropriated for one clearly defined purpose to be redirected to an unrelated purpose without returning to Congress?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000869

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, in general, that is the case.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000870

However, there is a general provision within the

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000871

General Appropriations Bill which allows for the declaration and use of savings, which is guided by Supreme Court jurisprudence.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000872

But generally, aside from that particular case, generally, whichever intended use is there when the GAA was approved should be eventually the use for a particular fund.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000873

Madam Speaker, we can also probably revisit on augmentation, on fund transfers, on GOCC remittances, foreign assisted fund projects, lump sum infrastructure,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000874

LGU support funds, and release of unprogrammed appropriations.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000875

Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000876

Madam Speaker, my apologies.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000877

May I clarify if there is a question from the Honorable Minority Leader, or is it more of an example of the different kinds of funds?

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000878

It's just to revisit like your assurance that the Madam Sponsor gave us about the use of savings.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000879

Perhaps we can revisit the appropriate

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000880

laws on this so that, if possible, we go back to Congress for appropriation.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000882

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, after consultation with DBM, for those particular items, generally it is governed by the general provision on the Declaration and Use of Savings.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000883

However, upon conferring with the DBM, what they can assure is that they will make sure that they will strictly adhere to whichever conditions are there that is set forth in the general provision for the use of savings.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000884

So there will, because that particular general provision is also authorized by Congress, but what they can assure, what the DBM can assure is that those funds will not be reallocated.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000885

They will not be reallocated or augmented without adherence to the particular conditions set forth in the general provision.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000886

Thank you for that assurance, Madam Speaker.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000887

Madam Speaker, of the 7.2 trillion before us, how much is truly discretionary and how much is already committed by automatic appropriations, statutory transfers?

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000888

personal obligations, and debt service.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000889

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000890

in terms of the split for the 7.2 trillion pesos,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000891

4.494 trillion is under programmed appropriations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000892

and 2.706 trillion is under automatic appropriations.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000893

So on the part of Congress,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000894

in the General Appropriations Bill,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000895

we are unable to touch the automatic appropriations.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000896

So we are looking at the 4.494 trillion pesos

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000897

under programmed appropriations.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000898

That's why this question, Madam Speaker,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000899

because we are only appropriating 4.9 trillion

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000900

in comparison to the 7.2 trillion

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000901

we are releasing in our headlines, Madam Speaker.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000902

So it's only 4.9 trillion.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000903

Madam Speaker,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000904

would the sponsor agree

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000905

that an appropriation

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000906

is not merely an accomplishment?

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000907

That the proper measure

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000908

is whether the money is obligated,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000909

disbursed,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000910

and produces the promised physical

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000911

or social result?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000912

I agree, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000913

I agree completely

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000914

with our Honorable Minority Leader.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000915

The gauge really is the impact

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000916

of these items.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000917

What would be the benefit

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000918

that these allocations would give

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000919

to our countrymen?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000920

They are not simply

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000921

numbers on a page.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000922

Madam Speaker,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000923

I would like to emphasize this,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000924

that this is only the beginning,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000925

but the more important

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000926

benefit of appropriation

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000927

is implementation.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000928

Implementation of this

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000929

appropriated fund.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000930

So that this will redound

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000931

really to the benefit

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000932

of our people.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000933

Madam Speaker,

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000934

Then should agencies receiving major increases be required to show their obligation, disbursement, and physical accomplishment rates before Congress increases their budget?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000935

Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000936

Distinguished colleague, yes, that is the case.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000937

There is also an assessment

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000938

of the utilization rate, especially

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000939

for agencies that receive high

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000940

allocations.

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000941

Madam Speaker, we shall see to it

Source

Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000942

that if there is

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low utilization,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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we shall not be increasing

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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their budget, Madam Speaker.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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And like the

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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2027 budget,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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we did not allow them to

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increase their budget because of

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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low utilization

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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rate. Madam

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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Speaker, would the sponsor

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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agree that the national budget

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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financed by all Filipinos

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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should reasonably

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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distribute development

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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opportunities throughout the country?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000958

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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I agree.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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That equality

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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does not mean

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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identical amounts.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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We cannot talk of identical amounts,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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but should the criteria

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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not include poverty,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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infrastructure deficits,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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geographic isolation,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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and disaster exposure,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000970

not merely on

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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existing economic activity

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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and project

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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readiness. Would you agree,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000974

Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000975

Yes, Madam Speaker, there should be different

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000976

parameters for determining the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000977

allocations of different

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000978

regions or different geographic locations.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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Madam Sponsor,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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if we strip away the individual

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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agencies for a moment,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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how would you describe

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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the fiscal strategy of this bill?

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000985

Is it

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000986

principally a revenue expansion

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000987

budget, a borrowing

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000988

budget, or an

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-000989

expenditure compression budget?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000992

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-000993

this budget is a product

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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of two things.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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First, it is a product of the fiscal

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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consolidation strategy wherein

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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the particular expenditures are

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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determined to reduce the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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deficit, but also by

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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choosing the quality

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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of the spending, we are also hoping

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001002

that this budget would be

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001003

a recovery budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001004

It would help the country go

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001005

back towards the targets,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001006

the macroeconomic targets,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001007

that inevitably

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001008

needed to be

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001009

lowered as a result of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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external factors,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001011

external shocks, geopolitical

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001012

conflicts, and other

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001013

items that affected

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001014

the global trade market.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-001015

Madam Speaker,

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

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that would be all

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-001017

for my interpellation.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-001018

Thank you, distinguished Sponsor.

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Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan

asr-001019

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001020

Thank you very much, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001021

and thank you very much to the Honorable

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001022

Minority Leader.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001023

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-001024

Mr. Speaker, I move that we

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-001025

recognize the Honorable Edgar R.

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-001026

Erice from the 2nd District of

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-001027

Caloocan to interpolate

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-001028

the sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001029

The Honorable Edgar Erice of the 2nd

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001030

District of Caloocan City,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001031

a very good friend of

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001032

ours,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001033

is hereby recognized for his

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001034

interpolation.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001035

Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001036

To the Chairman of the

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001037

Committee on Appropriation,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001038

may I ask

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001039

a few questions?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001040

Yes, Madam Speaker. It would be my honor

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001041

to field questions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001042

from the Honorable Edgar Erice.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001043

Thank you, ma'am. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001044

Madam Chair,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001045

Tama po ba

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001046

na ang layunin ng

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001047

P7.2 trilyong panukalang budget

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001048

ay hindi lamang pataasin

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001049

ang government spending,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001050

kundi tiyakin ang quality spending,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001051

paggastang na

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001052

magpapalago sa ekonomiya

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001053

at direktang magpapabuti

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001054

sa buhay ng mga mamamayan?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001055

Opo, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001056

Kung gano'n, maaari po bang

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001057

tukuyin kung magkano sa

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001058

P7.2 trillion ang tunay na

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001059

nakalaan sa mga

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001060

bagong development programs

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001061

or capital outlay,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001062

at magkano ang

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001063

nakatali na sa government

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001064

operations, sweldo,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001065

interest, amortization

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001066

at iba pang mandatory expenditures?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001067

Hindi sapat na sabihing

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001068

inclusive at

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001069

development-oriented ang budget.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001070

Kailangan po malaman natin

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001071

ang eksaktong halaga

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001072

at porsyento ng pondong

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001073

lilikha ng bagong trabaho,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001074

[unclear], ospital,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001075

irigasyon, pabahay at

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001076

transport infrastructure.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001077

Tama po ba na

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001078

malaking bahagi ng budget

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001079

ang nakalaan sa government operations,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001080

personal services, interest payments

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001081

at iba pang mandatory obligation?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001082

Madam Speaker, I will answer

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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based on the different

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001084

categories as highlighted by

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001085

the Honorable Irise.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001086

In terms of the breakdown

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001087

of the 7.2 trillion

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001088

pesos

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001089

by general expense class,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001090

out of the 7.2 trillion,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001091

1.98

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001092

trillion will go to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001093

personal services,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001094

2.944

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001095

trillion will go to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001096

MOUE,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001097

1.114 trillion

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001098

will go to financial

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001099

expenses, and

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001100

1.159 trillion

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001101

will go to capital outlays.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001102

In terms of the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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debt burden

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001104

and the interest expense payment,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001105

that would be

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001106

1.8

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001107

trillion,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001108

1.14 trillion pesos

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001109

out of the 7.2 trillion

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001110

pesos budget, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001111

15.5 percent

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001112

for the debt payment.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001113

That's correct, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001114

And for the capital

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001115

and developmental projects,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001116

it's only 16 percent.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001117

That's correct, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001118

And this is the lowest

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001119

fiscal space

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001120

in recent years.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001121

Is that correct?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001122

I remember that in

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001123

2024,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001124

the fiscal space

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001125

was 20 percent higher.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001126

Last year, it was 19 percent.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001127

Now, it's 16 percent.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001128

Is that correct?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001129

That's correct.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001130

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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kung ikukumpara po natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001132

sa fiscal year

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001133

2026 GAA,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001134

last year po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001135

ang capital outlays po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001136

ay nag-a-amount sa 15% po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001137

kumpara sa kasalukuyan po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001138

sa 2027 NEP

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001139

na

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001140

16.1% po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001141

Actually po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001142

kung atin pong hihimayin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001143

sa loob po ng MOOE,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001144

meron din pong capital outlay component

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001145

doon sapagkat

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001146

yung national tax allotment po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001147

ay nakapaloob sa MOOE.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001148

So yung mga nangyayari pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001149

capital outlay ng iba't ibang LGUs

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001150

ay nandoon po sa MOOE.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001151

Pero kung ikukumpara po natin,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001152

15% po ang capital outlay

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001153

sa 2026 GAA,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001154

at 16.1% po sa 2027.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001155

Ang ibig ko pong sabihin ay

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001156

yung capital outlay

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001157

na pamumunuan ng national government

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001158

ay 16% lang po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001159

16.1% po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001160

pag national government po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001161

Tama po yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001162

At kasama na roon,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001163

16% yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001164

sa mga local government.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001165

May NTA

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001166

on top pa po yun,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001167

kasi po yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001168

capital component outlay

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001169

ng mga LGUs po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001170

ay nakapaloob sa national tax allotment

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001171

at yun po ay nakapailalim sa MOOE.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001172

Sa akin pong datos,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001173

nung nakaraang taon,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001174

19% ang [unclear].

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001175

Mali po ba yun?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001176

Posible po sigurong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001177

19% kung isasama po natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001178

yung sa local government unit

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001179

sa loob ng NTA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001180

Pero kung pagbabasihan lang po natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001181

ay yung sa national government,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001182

15% lamang po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001183

noong 2026.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001184

What is the exact

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001185

definition of DBM,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001186

or capital outlay?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001187

Are these just capital outlays

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001188

or are the subsidies included?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001189

Transfers,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001190

ayuda, financial assistance,

Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001191

and discretionary funds?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001192

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001193

sa definition po natin ng

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001194

capital outlays,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001195

Ang nakapaloob po dito ay

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001196

yung mga

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001197

um,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001198

actually wala

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001199

[unclear]

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001204

ongoing banner

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001205

infrastructure projects sa ilalim

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001206

po ng Build Better More

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001207

program.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001208

Nasama po ba dito

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001209

yung pondo

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001210

na inilalaan para sa LGSF o Local Government Support Fund?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001211

Madam Speaker, hindi po sapagkat ang LGSF po ay nakapaloob sa MOOE.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001212

Wala po siya sa capital outlay.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001213

Ito po ba ay regular na government operations?

Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001214

Local Government Support Fund po ba ay regular government operations at nakalagay sa MOOE?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001215

Sapagkat po nakapaloob siya doon sa kategorya ng fund transfer.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001216

Kasi po yung tag po doon is financial talgo, financial assistance to local government units.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001217

Kaya po kahit po posible na i-disperse po iyon ng mga local government units

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001218

as infrastructure projects dahil po doon sa technicality na yung accounting treatment po ng fund transfers

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001219

na lalagay po siya sa ilalim ng MOOE.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001220

Maari po ba magbigay ang DBM ng COPIA kung anong mga bagong capital projects,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001221

ongoing capital projects at malahat ng mga programa nakapaloob doon sa capital outlay na 16%.

Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001222

Can you readily do that?

Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001223

Siguro naman may data kayo nga.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001224

Yes, Madam Speaker. Ibibigay po ng DBM across all agencies po kasi yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001225

Pero pwede po sila magbigay ng consolidated.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001226

Yes. Opo. Para pag tatanong ko mamaya sa DBM eh, pwede kong maging basapatayan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001227

Apo.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001228

Pagdating po sa LGSF.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001229

Yung 2026 po, 57 billion.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001230

2027 po ay 58 billion.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001231

Ito po ay sole discretionary fund ng presidente.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001232

Wala pong makakapag-disperse nito o makakapag-decision dito kundi ang ating pangulo.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001233

Ito ba'y isang presidential pork barrel?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001234

Madam Speaker, ang paggagawad po ng LGSF ay nakabase po doon sa pag-request ng mga local government units

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001235

at yung binabantayan po na kriteriya sa pagdesisyon kung sino po yung gagawalan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001236

ay nakabase po doon sa special provision patungkol sa LGSF

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001237

na nandun din po, nakapaloob din po sa General Appropriations Bill.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001238

Madam Chair, andito po sa akin ngayon yung mga parameters sa pagbibigay.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001239

Halos lahat pwede. Halos lahat pwede.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001240

Basta disisyonan ng Presidente, bibigay ko yan sa Naga, 500 million.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001241

Okay yan. Wala ng parameter.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001242

Kung kailan, kung saan, kung paano, kung sino, discretion ng Presidente. Tama ba?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001243

Okay.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001244

Madam Speaker, yung determination po ng evaluation ng mga request ng mga local government units

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001245

sits solely with the DBM po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001246

Hindi na po kailangan magsabi po o umabot po sa Presidente upang magdesisyon po kung sino po yung gagawaran.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001247

Nakabase po doon sa parameters sa special provision. May menu po kasi doon.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001248

Pero ang sinasabi po sa atin ng DBM, up to the discretion of Congress po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001249

kung ano po yung gusto natin ipaloob doon po sa special provision,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001250

kung meron po tayong mga karagdagang parameters o karagdagang menu na nais pong ilagay doon po sa special provision sa LGSF.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001251

Ibig pong sabihin, may legislative power na ngayon ang DBM.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001252

Dahil sila na magdedetermine. Sila na magbibigay ng parameters.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001253

Sila na magdedetermine kung magkano ibibigay, kung kanino ibibigay.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001254

Kahit na, halimbawa, bibigyan ko ng, tatanungin ko po ang DBM ngayon.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001255

Nandito na sila.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001256

Bakit nagbigay ng 500 million sa Naga?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001257

Second to the richest city ang Naga sa Bicol.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001258

Yung city ni Congresswoman Representative Criselle Lagman, mas mahirap.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001259

Yung pong Masbate sa Bicol, napaka mahirap.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001260

Yung pong Iriga City, napaka hirap.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001261

Ano kung naging batayan, bakit magbibigay ng basketball court?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001262

Hindi po pala. Stayed yung sa Naga.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001263

Ano pong parameters?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001264

Yung ba ang priority para o yung mga mahihirap ng mga local government?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001265

O pinupulitika lang ito ni Presidente dahil gusto niyang maging kakampi si Mayor Lenny Robredo?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001266

Ito po ba batayan ng pagbabadget?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001267

Madam Speaker, most definitely po wala pong legislative power na ine-exercise ang DBM.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001268

Batay lang po yung kanilang kriteriya doon po sa special provision na nakapaloob sa ating General Appropriations Act na ino-authorize po ng Kongreso.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001269

Nandito po, ibinigay po, nandito po sa atin yung menu ng LGSF at meron din po kami kinukuha lang po na yun po yung memorandum circular para po doon sa kriteriya na kanilang sinusunod.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001270

Pero definitely po within the parameters set forth by Congress.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001271

Yung kanilang pamantayan para po sa pag-disperse, pag-evaluate ng LGSF projects.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001272

Ito po ang mga components.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001273

Financial assistance to LGUs for agriculture related programs, agri-support, farm produce.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001274

Hindi po ba ito trabaho ng Department of Agriculture?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001275

Hindi po ba magiging fragmented ang implementation ng agricultural program?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001276

Kung ibibigay na lang ito ng kung kanin-kaninong LGUs without coordination with the corresponding departments that is really in charge of agriculture?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001277

Madam Speaker, sa kasalukoyin po kasi kaya po nagkakaroon ng ganyan na disbursement sa loob po ng LGSF ay dahil po pumayag po yung Kongreso na isama po yung LGSF.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001278

Ito ang mga programa na ito sa menu na nakapaloob po doon po sa General Appropriations Act.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001279

Kaya po nagkakaroon ng duplication po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001280

Hindi ba ito pagsusuko ng ating legislative powers?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001281

That can be questioned before the courts?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001282

The decision as to which items would be included in the menu solely rests with Congress.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001283

So we are not giving up legislative powers po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001284

Natatandaan ko, Madam Speaker, Madam Chair,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001285

noong panahon ni Pangulong Aquino, meron pong bottoms-up budgeting.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001286

Yan po yung suporta ng national government sa mga local government.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001287

Pero bawat line item inaaprobahan ng Kongreso.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001288

Kung merong bibigay sa naga,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001289

aprobado,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001290

may bibigay sa Sulu,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001291

may bibigay sa iba't ibang probinsya,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001292

aprobado ng Kongreso.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001293

Ngayon lang,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001294

ngayon lang na ito ay sole discretionary.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001295

At hindi nyo pa sinasabing Pangulo,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001296

kundi BBM lang may discretion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001298

...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001299

Madam Speaker, meron pong kasintalawang magkaibang component.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001300

Yun pong LGSF na pwede po natin gabitin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001301

bilang halimbawa.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001302

Yung Falgo po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001303

yung financial assistance

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001304

to LGUs. Yun po kasi

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001305

hindi po naka

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001306

per line item yung breakdown sa GAA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001307

However, the other

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001308

type po, which is for example

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001309

NTF-LCAC, kung makikita nyo po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001310

sa NEP

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001311

pa lamang, meron ng listahan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001312

ng mga iba't-ibang mga beneficiary

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001313

barangays na pwede pong bigyan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001314

sa ilalim na NTF-LCAC. So within

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001315

LGSF itself,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001316

meron po ang dalawang variants. Yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001317

Falgo na hindi po naka line

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001318

item. Tapos po yung NTF-LCAC

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001319

na naka line item po. So

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001320

ina-approbahan po natin per line item.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001321

37 billion po yung

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001322

Falgo dito ba?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001323

May line item po ba yun?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001324

Tama po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001325

37.45

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001326

billion pesos po ang Falgo.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001327

May line item po yan?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001328

Wala pong line item yung sa

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001329

Falgo, but it is governed

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001330

by the menu as

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001331

indicated in the special provision

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001332

approved by Congress.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001333

Kung ating aprobahan yan, hindi po ba tayo

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001334

we will be subjected to a violation

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001335

of the constitutional provision

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001336

of an undue delegation of

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001337

legislative power under Article

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001338

6, Section 1 of the

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001339

Constitution?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001340

Madam Speaker, meron na pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001341

previous Supreme Court ruling

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001342

citing that the LGSF

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001343

is a valid expenditure.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001344

The Supreme Court in the case of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001345

Belgica v. Secretary of Budget

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001346

and Management et al. ruled that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001347

the LGSF complies with the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001348

rule on singular correspondence

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001349

because it has the discernible singular

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001350

appropriation purpose of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001351

providing funds for the support to local

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001352

government units. Moreover,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001353

LGSF satisfies

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001354

both the completeness and sufficient

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001355

standard test since, one,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001356

it specifies the standards by

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001357

which set the limits

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001358

of the executive's authority to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001359

disperse the LGSF, and number

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001360

two, it determines the legislative

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001361

policy behind the fund, and finally,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001362

number three, it identifies the condition

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001363

under which the fund may be utilized.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001364

So meron na pong previous jurisprudence

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001365

dito.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001366

Yung

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001367

implementation of programs, project

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001368

activities, promotion of cultural,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001369

heritage, rehabilitation, repair,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001370

improvement of national heritage

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001371

structures.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001372

Hindi po ba ito

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001373

ano po ang very

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001374

special dito para

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001375

ipadaan sa

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001376

mga

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001377

local government, samantarang meron na pong

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001378

mga ahensya na mas

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001379

meron pong

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001380

pakayahan, capability

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001381

to implement these projects.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001382

National

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001383

Heritage, meron po tayong

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001384

ahensya para dyan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001390

Madam Speaker, meron po kasing

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001391

mga local

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001392

government sites, ay mga local

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001393

sites,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001394

na actually po hindi po nakapaloob doon po sa pinanghahawakan ng NHCP.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001395

So in cases like that po, may mga pagkakataon po na nag-request po yung mga LGUs.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001396

For example po, Madam Speaker, ano po ba yung mga hindi nasasakop ng cultural heritage, rehabilitation and repair ng ahensya para sa National Heritage Commission?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001397

Isa pong halimbawa na binigay po ng DBM ay yung Old City Hall ng Cotabato.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001398

Ito po kasi ay kinonvert na po sa isang museum.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001399

So isa po ito sa mga halimbawa na inirequest po sa kanila ng Cotabato City Government na mapondohan po sa ilalim po ng menu item B po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001400

Ito po ba ay nadeklara ng heritage site?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001401

Opo, nadeklara na po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001402

Bakit hindi po po pwedeng pondohan ang National Heritage Commission?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001403

Kasi po ito po ay isang, bagamat ito po ay nadeklara na bilang isang heritage site, nanatili po ito bilang isang LGU property.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001404

Kaya po ang nag-maintain pa rin po ay yung local government unit.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001405

Sa pagkakaalam ko, may parameters sa pagkukumpuni, pagre-rehab.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001406

At ang mga heritage site at ang tanging authority dyan ay ang national heritage.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001407

Madam Speaker, may mga pagkakataon po kasi na hindi naman po ganun kalakihan yung budget ng NHCP.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001408

So hindi din po nila na-accommodate lahat po ng mga nadeklara bilang heritage site.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001409

So may mga pagkakataon po na mismo yung mga local government units na po yung nag-initiate ng request sa ilalim po ng LGU.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001410

Para po mapondohan yung ganitong mga maintenance po or restoration ng mga heritage sites.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001411

So ibig pong sabihin, lahat na nakapaloob dito sa mga parameters neto, pwede nang hindi humingi sa mga departamento at mga ahensya ng national government at pwede nang dumiretsyo sa office of the president.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001412

Tama po ba?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001413

Opo, mayroon po itong mga complement sa iba't ibang mga programa ng mga ahensya ng gobyerno.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001414

However, Pai, you just said it.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001415

I just want to clarify po, the request is not directed to the president but rather it's directed to DBM through a portal.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001416

DBM is the alter ego of the president.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001417

Pag pinadaan sa DBM, ang request po kay presidente, hindi sa DBM.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001418

The approval po, the evaluation and the approval stops at the level of DBM.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001419

Hindi na po ito kailangang iakyat po sa office of the president.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001420

Construction, concreting, rehab.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001421

Repair of local roads, bridges, public markets, multi-purpose buildings, multi-purpose halls.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001422

Hindi po ba trabaho ito ng Department of Public Works and Highways?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001423

Di ba po ito, yan yung pinag-aawayan dito sa Kongreso kung saan may mga allocables ang mga kinatawan?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001424

Ngayon po, inililipat na lang sa mga local governments?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001425

Yes.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001426

Paano natin masisiguro na equitable ang distribution?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001427

Ang mga pondong ito?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001428

Madam Speaker, I agree with the Honorable Erice.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001429

Actually, opo, tama po yun. Meron din pong component yung DPWH na Basic Infrastructure Program or SIPAG

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001430

kung saan pwede pong mapondohan ng DPWH yun po mga local roads, yung mga multipurpose buildings sa iba't ibang mga lugar po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001431

Pero binibigyan pa rin po ito dahil po kasama siya doon sa menu na na-aprobahan ng Kongreso.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001432

Pwede po itong i-request sa ilalim po ng LGSF.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001433

Okay po. Para pa ang patunayan natin, Madam Speaker, Madam Chair, kung equitable yung distribution nitong LGSF.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001434

Nakapag-release na po ba sila o sa mga local governments ng 2025, 37 billion po ang LGSF.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001435

May mga na-release na po ba dyan? O naubos na yan?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001436

Madam Speaker, opo, meron na pong ganong listahan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001437

Ayon po sa DBM, maaari po itong makita doon sa Compass na portal sa DBM website.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001438

Nandun na po yung listahan ng mga releases sa ilalim po ng LGSF so far for 2025.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001439

Fiscal year 2026 po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001440

How about 2025?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001441

Mula po 2022 hanggang so far po, half or until August of 2026.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001442

Ano po ang utilization rate ng LGSF 2025 and 2026?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001443

Sa taong 2025 po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001444

ang LGSF,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001445

Ang released ay 59.74%, ang obligated po ay 13.01%, at ang disbursed po ay 4.15%.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001446

Sa 2026 po, as of July 22, ang released po ay 82.73%, obligated ay 20.2%, at yung disbursement po ay 43.1%.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001447

Ano po ang ano? 2026, ano po ang utilization rate?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001448

May...

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001449

Anong gamitin natin?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001450

Ang basehan na lang po natin, Madam Speaker, yung released amount.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001451

So sa 2025 po, 59.74% out of the 18.95 billion pesos na allocation.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001452

At sa 2026 po, 82.73% out of the 37.49 billion allocation.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001453

Ibig pong sabihin yung utilization ng 2026.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001454

Ibig pong sabihin yung utilization ng 2026 ay mas mataas kaysa sa 2025.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001455

Tama po ba yan?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001456

82% ang utilization.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001457

Tama po yan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001460

Ang base po sa datos ng DBM, mas mataas po yung utilization rate ng 2026 ng LGSF

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001461

kumpara po sa 2025 ng LGSF.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001462

Ang kadahilanan po ay yung LGSF price.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001463

Yun po yung mataas yung utilization rate.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001464

Meron po siya sa 2026, pero wala po siya sa 2025.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001465

Ibig pong sabihin, mas madaling na nagamit yung pondo ng 2026.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001466

Bakit po kaya madaling na gamit yung price?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001467

Bakit po kaya madaling na gamit yung price?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001468

Binamigay na lang lahat sa lahat yung rice.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001469

Ano po ang development economic impact nung pagbibigay ng bigas ng kanyang kalalaki?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001470

Mabilis po kasi yung distribution ng rice kasi po lahat po ng mga LGUs sa buong bansa nabigyan po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001471

So mas mabilis po siya kumpara sa halimbawa.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001472

Halimbawa yung individual projects na rinirequest po ng LGU doon sa portal.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001473

Yung dahilan po kung bakit ipinamigay po yung bigas ay bilang pagresponde po doon sa iba't ibang mga krisis.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001474

Halimbawa po yung pagtaas po ng presyo ng crudo, ng koryente, at yung mga nawalan din po ng trabaho.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001475

Kaya kailangan po matugunan din po kagad.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001476

Talagang ayuda rin po ito.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001477

Ayuda to, di ba?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001478

Walang economic impact to eh.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001479

Kundi pagbibigay ng bigas, limang kilo, sampung kilo.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001480

Hindi ba ito patronage politics?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001481

There is an economic factor din po which is where we are endeavoring po na hindi po bumagsak sa below poverty line.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001482

Yung mga pamilya na pinaka-vulnerable po dito po sa mga ganitong external shock.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001483

So there's also a multiplier effect in the sense that yung mga bigas po ay kinukuha sa mga local farmers.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001484

So meron po din guaranteed na bumibili noong bigas, yung mga palay, yung mga produkto na ating mga magsasaka.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001485

So meron din po siyang economic, may economic ecosystem din po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001486

Namomonitor po ba ng PBM yung pagbibigay ng bigas?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001487

Ang DILG po, ang nag-incharge po ng monitoring ng distribution ng LGS price.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001488

Bibigyan ko po kayo ng isang example sa Kaloocan.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001489

Yung isang banko, Philippine Business Bank.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001490

Lahat na empleyado, from manager to ordinary employee, tigko 40 kilos na bigas.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001491

40 kilos.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001492

So exclusively at the discretion.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001493

Paano nakakatulong ito sa mga mahirap kung ang binibigyan mo ang mga executive ng banko?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001494

Madam Speaker, given that the DILG is in charge of the monitoring, yun po dapat yung mga bagay na huhuli ng DILG.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001495

So kung may mga ganito pong pagkakataon, dapat po ma-report po sa DILG para po matugunan nila.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001496

So meron po ba?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001497

Ito ang assessment na nagawa ang PBM sa utilization ng 2025 at least.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001498

2025 LGSF.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001499

And can you furnish us a copy?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001500

Thank you.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001501

Madam Speaker, may I ask po our distinguished colleague, what sort of report po would you like for the 2025 utilization?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001502

How it was distributed?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001503

How it was distributed?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001504

In terms of which LGUs po?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001506

Are the recipients the types of projects?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001507

Yes.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001508

Apo.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001509

Sa kasalukuyan po, yung...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001510

So far po, yung roughly 52% na na-dispersed po for 2025, lahat po ng datos doon po sa releases, nandun na rin po, naka-upload na po sa Compass portal ng DBM.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001511

Pero magbibigay din po.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001512

Ang nakalagay po doon yung amount of releases o yung goods that were given?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001513

Nandito po sa Compass, actually po, nakita ko po ngayon ang ganda po ng dashboard nila.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001514

And nandun po yung...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001515

Bawat proyekto at bawat LGU at magkano at kung anong klaseng proyekto po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001516

Halimbawa po, NCR, Metro Manila, Manila, Multipurpose Building, Construction of Pamantasan ng Lungsod na Maynila, College of Allied Health Sciences, 500 million, year 2025 po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001517

So pwede nating ma-filter po yun doon po sa Compass website.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001518

Sa apalagay niyo po, Madam Chair, equitable po ang distribution nito?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001519

Equitable.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001520

For 2026 po, Madam Speaker, equitable po dahil po lahat binigyan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001521

Yung 2025 po, nakabatay po kasi sa kung sino yung nag-request.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001522

So posible po na may ibang mga LGU, may ibang mga probinsya.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001523

Na hindi po nag-request. So wala po silang natanggap.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001524

So sa 2027 po, paano po i-dedistribute ito?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001525

Para po sa taong 2027, dahil po yung panukalang amount po ng LGU,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001526

GSF ay parehas doon sa 2026 ga.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001527

Ang intensyon po ayon sa DBM ay pareho pa rin po yung distribution.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001528

So with regard to rice, lahat pa rin po na local government units mabibigyan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001529

And with regard to infrastructure po, it would still depend on whether there's an LGU that requested from a particular area.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001530

And it would still be consistent po with the same menu and criteria that we approve.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001531

So in the 2027 ga, under the special provision for LGSF.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001532

With the indulgence of our good mentor.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001533

Last question, ma'am. Thank you.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001534

Kaya po ako nagtatanong, sapagkat napakamahalaga po na masinop yung paggamit natin ng 7.2 trillion.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001535

Sapagkat sa 17.2 trillion, ang projected government revenue ay 5.2 trillion lamang. Tama po?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001536

At yun ay projected pa lang.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001537

Sa bagsak nating GDP, baka hindi pa ma-realize.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001538

Pagkatapos po, ang uutangin natin para ponduhan nito ay 1.69 trillion.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001539

Sa 1.69 trillion po, for development projects, kasama na yung mga ayuda, 1.1 trillion.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001540

Ibig sabihin, yung napuponduhan ng pagutang natin, pati yung personal services,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001541

pati yung MOOE. Kaya po mahalaga.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001542

At pagkatapos po, kailangan pa nating mangutang muli ng 3.3 trillion para bayaran yung mga nag-mature na utang natin.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001543

Tama po ba yan?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001544

Aside from the 1.69 trillion na uutangin para ponduhan ng 2027 national budget,

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001545

mangungutang na naman tayo ng 3.3.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001546

3.3 trillion para bayaran yung mga maturing na utang.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001547

Tama po ba yan?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001548

Madam Speaker, if we may clarify po, the 3.3 trillion peso borrowing already includes the deficit of 1.69.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001549

So, kabuuan na po na borrowing po natin yung 3.3 trillion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001550

Kasama na po yung deficit.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001551

Tapos on top po yung iba pa.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001552

So, ibig sabihin po, ang 1.69 trillion yung utangin for the 2027 national budget. Tama po?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001553

Opo, tama po yan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001554

1.694 trillion para po doon sa 2027 budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001555

Para po mapondohan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001556

At yung remainder po ay...

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001557

Ang 1.6 trillion ay yun naman yung pangbayad po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001558

Pangbayad po is doon sa mga nag-mature na natin na mga utang.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001559

So, payment of maturities.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001560

So, utangin natin ulit yun.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001561

So, ibig pong sabihin, next year, after 2027, lalaki na naman.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001562

Mas langong lalaki yung ating interest payment.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001563

Tama po ba yan?

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001564

Tama po ba yan?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001565

Tama po, madam speaker. Last year po kasi, 0.996 trillion po yun po interest payments.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001566

Sa 2027 po, 1.114.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001567

At sa 2027, 1.114.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001569

At sa 2028, ang forecast po, although very preliminary, tataas din po kumpada sa 2027.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001570

Ang ibig sabihin po ba dito ay lilit muli ang fiscal space for 2028?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001571

With the indulgence of our good colleague.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001572

Last question.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001573

You have an...

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001574

You're...

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001575

You have exceeded the 30-minute rule.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001576

Madam speaker, if I may respond po.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001577

Very quickly, please.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001578

The last question. Sa kasalukuyan po, publicly available na rin po ang initial po na inaprobahan ng DBCC para po sa 2028 budget ay 7.2 trillion pesos pa rin po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001579

So, preliminarily po, preliminarily, yun po yung naaprobahan ng DBCC. So, tama po na dahil tataas yung interest payment sa 2028 pero po mananatiling 7.2 trillion pesos yung kabuuan ng budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001580

In essence po, kinakain niya po yung ating fiscal space. So, ninipis po na konti yung fiscal space.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001581

Maraming salamat po.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001582

Thank you very much, Congressman Erice. Majority Leader?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001583

Thank you very much po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001584

Thank you very much po to the Honorable Ege Erice.

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Rep. Ryan S. Recto

asr-001585

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal of the BH Party List Interpolation.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001586

The Honorable Nazal is recognized for his interpolation.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001587

Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001588

Madam Chair, through you, to the DBM.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001589

Your own 2026 NEP still contained the long-standing prohibition against impoundment of appropriations.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001590

But in the enacted 2026 GAA, this was replaced by Section 78, suspension of expenditure, which allows the President to stop expenditure when public interest so requires.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001591

The same provision is again proposed.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001592

So, my question, Madam Chair, is Section 38 of the Administrative Code already gave the President authority to suspend expenditure when public interest so requires.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001593

If that authority already exists, why was it necessary to remove the long-standing prohibition against impoundment provision and replace it with this provision?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001596

Thank you very much po, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001597

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, it is simply a reiteration of what is indicated in Section 38 of EO 292.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001598

And actually po ginagawa rin naman po natin yun, hindi lang sa provision na to.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001599

May iba din po mga special provisions and general provisions na simple reiteration ng po sila noong pong substantive law.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001609

Pero originally po

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001611

for the last 20 years

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001612

binabawal natin yung impounding

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001613

that's why

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001614

for the last 20 years since 2007

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001615

very specific

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001616

ang nilalagay po natin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001617

up to the 2026

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001618

NEP

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001619

prohibition section 74

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001620

up to the 2026 NEP

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001621

prohibition against impoundment

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001622

of appropriations

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001623

ngayon bigla na lang natin binago

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001624

nung

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001625

ga-a ng 2026

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001626

so may I ask

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001627

what additional authority ba

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001628

if any was intended

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001629

to be given to the president

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001630

meron po ba

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001631

additional authority

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001632

kaya natin inintroduce to

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001633

at tinanggal natin yung impounding

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001634

okay

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001636

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, that is correct po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001637

2026 GAA is the first wherein the terminology suspension of expenditure was used.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001638

However, in previous GAAs where impoundment was used, in terms of the concept and the spirit, it's the same po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001639

We just changed the terminology in the 2026 GAA.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001640

But why did we change it?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001641

Are we giving the President or the Executive additional authority by doing so?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001642

Madam Speaker, this is really just for consistency with EO 292

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001643

because the terminology that is used in EO 292 is suspension of expenditure.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001644

So just to be consistent po, given that we are reiterating that substantive law in the general provision of the GAA,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001645

just to be consistent po, in the 2026 GAA, we also,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001646

carried the terminology suspension of expenditure.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001647

So, wala po tayong, Madam Chair, we are not Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001648

wala po tayong dinadagdag na additional authority sa Presidente?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001649

Wala po, Madam Speaker, we can categorically say we are not adding any more power.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001650

We are just simply reiterating what is there in EO 292.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001651

So we changed it because of a reiteration.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001652

Just to be consistent po.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001653

Madam Chair, Distinguished Colleague, who proposed or requested this change?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001654

Was it the DBM, the DOF or the Executive Department?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001655

And sino po ang nag-introduce nito sa BICAM?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001657

Pakipause yung time ko, please.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001658

My time is running. Can you please pause it?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001668

Session resumed. The sponsor may respond quickly.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001668-split-2

Thank you, Madam Speaker. So for this particular general provision,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001669

This was concurred by both houses,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001670

both chambers, during the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001671

BICAM.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001672

So who introduced this in the

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001673

BICAM? Madam Chair?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001674

And sino po ang nag-recommend

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001675

na ipasok ito sa BICAM?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001676

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001677

I don't want

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001678

to make a mistake po. So,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001679

with the indulgence of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001680

Representative

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001681

Nasal, may we

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001682

request for some time to look back at the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001683

records of the BICAM

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001684

and see po. We'll just trace back

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001685

po, just to make sure we answer

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001686

correctly.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001687

While we're doing

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001688

that po, may we proceed with other questions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001689

and then we'll get back to you po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001690

as soon as we

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001691

were able to backtrack.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001692

Okay. My question,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001693

Madam Chair, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001694

is

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001695

when we

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001696

introduced yung

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001697

provision on impoundment,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001698

ang purpose po

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001699

natin is ma-implement

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001700

yung GAA.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001701

So, ayaw natin na mag-impound.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001702

So, basically, ang ginawa natin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001703

ng ngayon by introducing this provision,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001704

tinatanggal natin yung

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001705

provision on impounding

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001706

and

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001707

we are

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001708

making, parang

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001709

naglalagay na naman tayo ng kulatilya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001710

na pwedeng

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001711

mamili

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001712

ng mga project na pwedeng

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001713

isuspend. Hindi po ba ganoon na nangyayari?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001714

Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001715

Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001716

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001717

actually po, even without this general provision,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001718

in the GAA, given that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001719

there is already EO 292,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001720

meron na yun po talagang

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001721

ganon. So, the GAA is simply

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001722

a reiteration of that. So, we were

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001723

not the ones who actually

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001724

implemented that,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001725

but rather we are simply just reiterating.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001726

So, why introduce it in the first place,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001727

Madam Chair?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001728

Meron na tayong provision

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001729

prior to this

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001730

on impounding, which protects

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001731

the GAA from being

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001732

um

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001733

um

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001734

, which protects

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001735

the GAA from being implemented.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001736

Protects the GAA

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001737

na hindi po siya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001738

pwede mag-impound

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001739

ang executive ng basta-basta.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001740

So, why did we have to remove this provision?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001741

Madam Speaker, actually,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001742

speaking to DBM, they're actually

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001743

okay with removing this.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001744

So, they're okay with removing this?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001745

They will submit to the wisdom of Congress with regard to this.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001746

But, it was

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001747

simply a reiteration, but

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001748

they will submit to our wisdom

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001749

if we choose to take this out

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001750

in the 2027 GAA.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001751

Okay.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001752

Um,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001753

thank you for that.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001754

So, pero Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001755

since nandito pa rin siya sa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001756

2026, and we applied it to ano,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001757

gusto ko lang tanungin,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001758

um, unmanageable

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001759

national government budget deficit

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001760

is specifically defined

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001761

dun sa 2026.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001762

Um,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001763

GAA.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001764

But when public interest so requires,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001765

it's not similarly defined.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001766

May I ask, ano yung concrete example

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001767

ng public interest na sapat

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001768

para ipatigil ang expenditure

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001769

for a project?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001770

Change of policy?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001771

Change of priority?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001772

May problema?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001773

Ano malya? Ano ba ang objective standard natin?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001774

And has this provision been invoked already in 2026?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001775

Madam Speaker, there is actually jurisprudence with regard to this matter.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001776

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the definition of when public interest requires is quite vague.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001777

In essence, leaving it up to the President to decide on that.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001778

But we're pulling right now, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, this specific jurisprudence so we can cite it correctly.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001779

Yung Arawlio po. Arawlio. You can look at Arawlio.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001780

Madam Speaker, the DBM is just pulling.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001781

The DBM is just pulling up the specific jurisprudence.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001782

Madam Chair, Distinguished Colleague, has this been invoked in 2026?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001783

Madam Speaker, no. This particular general provision has not been invoked.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001784

Diretso ko na lang po dun sa susunod kong tanong.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001785

Madam Chair, under the new Section 78,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001786

pwede ba ninyong gamitin ang public interest para hindi na i-release ang allotment for a project in the first place?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001787

Yes or no?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001788

Madam Speaker, the answer is no po, given that these speak of two different things.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001789

Releases is different from suspension.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001790

So this particular general provision only deals with suspension.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001791

So hindi po pwedeng gamitin yung general provision na ito para hindi po i-release ang isa pong allocation or funding.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001792

Then Madam Chair, can DBM kadilis?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001793

DBM kategorikali confirm that public interest under Section 78 cannot be used to withhold the initial release of an allotment.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001794

Madam Speaker, yes, the category...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001795

My apologies, yes and no.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001796

Medyo confusing po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001797

The categorical answer of DBM is no.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001798

Hindi po pwedeng gamitin ito para mag-hold ng releases.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001799

Then Madam Chair, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001800

what provision now protects appropriations against impoundment

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001801

considering that the express prohibition against impoundment provision was removed?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001807

May time?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001808

Please suspend.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001809

Thank you.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001810

Thank you.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001811

Madam Speaker, if I may.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001812

As a response, there is general provision number 3.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001813

Which pertains to the General Appropriations Act as allotment order.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001814

It says here that the General Appropriations Act upon its effectivity shall be considered the allotment authorizing agencies to obligate in accordance with its provisions except for two conditions.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001815

The first would be the appropriations that by virtue of law, general or special provisions, and rules and regulations, have conditions or requirements before release, and lump sum appropriations in the agency budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001816

And special purpose funds that have no details necessary for release. So yun po yung safeguard, General Provision No. 3 po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001817

Can you please

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001818

So there are specific conditions by which a particular allotment would not be released; otherwise the general rule is it should be released.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001819

Bakit po yung ano? Bakit po yung based doon sa NEP?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001820

Bakit po yung congressional initiatives

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001821

Bakit po?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001826

Bakit po yung congressional initiatives, nirequire ng aficero tapos nag-require ng additional requirements?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001827

Wala po yun sa binasa nyo, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001828

In the case po, I wouldn't call them congressional initiatives.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001829

Those are probably, with your permission po, we'll tag them as items that have deviations between the NEP and the GAA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001830

So, yun po kasi, those are items that have not been vetted by the DBM.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001831

It didn't go through the usual process that the other projects had to undergo during the budget call.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001832

So, in that case po, it's an additional safeguard on the part of DBM

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001833

to be able to make sure that these projects,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001834

comply with the same requirements as the projects in the NEP.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001835

So, meron pong ganong additional safeguard, kaya po naging FISARO po.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001836

Ano po yung legal basis para gawin yun?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001837

Every congressional initiative or amendment was done, dumaan po yan sa RDC and was properly vetted.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001839

I wanted to know what the legal basis was for the president to do a veto.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001840

Are you saying, Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001841

distinguished colleague, na pag dumaan po sa atin,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001842

dumaan po sa congressional,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001843

sa House, dumaan sa Senate, hindi po natin binibeta?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001844

The legal basis po for this, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001845

is the veto power of the president as indicated in the veto message.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001846

There's a particular section there in the veto message that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001847

that pertains to increases in appropriations and new budgetary items.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001848

At doon po, linae out po yung mga conditions na kailangan po ma-meet for the release of these items

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001849

that are either new budgetary items or saw increases in appropriations.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001850

In the 2026 GAA, ano yung veto message?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001851

Saan po nakalagay na veto message yun?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001852

Wala po sa veto message yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001853

Doon po sa mismong veto message, it is under Section 6 with the header

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001854

Increases in Appropriations and New Budgetary Items as Published po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001855

With the veto message as published in the official gazette.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001856

Under what provision po nakalagay sa veto message?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001857

Item 6 po.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001858

What does it state specifically?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001859

It pertains to increases in appropriations and new budgetary items.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001860

I could read po the particular item if our distinguished colleague so desires.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001861

In the exercise of the budget execution function vested upon the executive branch,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001862

it is understood that the increases in appropriations and new budgetary items introduced by the Congress in this budget

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001863

shall be subject to the national government's cash programming,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001864

observance of prudent fiscal management,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001865

applicable budget execution rules and procedures,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001866

and,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001867

and approval by the president based on the program priorities of the government.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001868

Considering that such releases in appropriations and new budgetary items will have corresponding effects

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001869

on the outputs and outcomes of the agencies concerned,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001870

the DBM shall inform the said agencies of the changes in their respective appropriations

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001871

and require the submission of their revised performance target.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001872

So nasa first paragraph po, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues, yung mga conditions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001873

Thank you for that, Madam Chair, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001874

Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001875

may I apply natin kung ang isang project ay nasa FISARO at wala pang SARO,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001876

can public interest be invoked so that the SARO is never released?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001877

Yes or no?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001878

My apologies, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, medyo technical po kasi.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001879

May I request for the question to be reiterated, releases po ba or suspension?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001880

No, I'll just...

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001881

I'll just repeat the question.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001882

Yes, please po.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001883

Kung ang isang project po ay nasa FISARO at wala pang SARO,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001884

can public interest be invoked so that the SARO is never released?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001903

Madam Speaker, given that the question pertains to releases of items categorized under FISARO, opo, sa ilalim po nitong Section 6 ng veto message, maaari pong mangyari yan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001920

Opo.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001921

Sa ilalim po nitong section six ng veto message, maaari pong mangyari yan if several of the conditions, one of the conditions set forth are met.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001922

Either...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001923

Hindi...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001924

It could either not meet the national government's cash programming or prudent fiscal management,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001925

or it went against applicable budget execution rules and procedures,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001926

if any of the conditions are not met, it is possible po that an item under PESARO will not be released under Section 6 of the veto message.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001927

How about, Madam Chair, distinguished colleagues, how about appropriations or line items introduced or amended by Congress?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001928

Can the Executive likewise refuse the release by invoking public interest?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001929

Yes, Madam Speaker. Given that whichever was included in either the HGAB or the SGAB or the BICAM that was not there in the NEPFOS under new budgetary items or increases in appropriations, the same section holds po. So it is possible.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001930

So, kung hindi po natin tatanggal,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001931

kung hindi po natin tatanggalin yung provision, which okay naman na sinasabi ng DBM, willing silang tanggalin yung provision on suspension.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001932

For 2026, bakit hindi po kasi, bakit hindi na lang veto ang nangyari?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001933

Kasi parang nakakatakot po eh. Kung pagkatapos ba in-act ang GAA, pwede nang piliin ng Executive.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001934

Given this provision, pwede na pong piliin ng Executive kung alin ang ilalabas at alin ang hindi.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001935

Hindi simply ang hindi i-invoke at alin ang hindi simply by invoking public interest, hindi pa parang nire-rewrite na ng Executive ang GAA.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001936

Madam Speaker, ang nangyari po kasi kung dumedetsa po kaagad sa veto, given the volume of the line items of the budget that would be affected by the condition,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001937

which would be the increases in appropriations or the new budgetary items,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001938

maapektuhan po kasi yung essentially marami pong mga projects and programs and activities na madi-disallow kung dalesyo po tayo sa veto.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001939

So ang ginawa nilang po as a safeguard, sinubject nilang po doon sa iba't ibang mga kondisyon.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001940

So if straight to veto po kasi, ang mangyayari matatanggal po lahat sila so that would affect economic growth and government expenditure.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001941

Hindi po ba pwede, Madam Chair, na very...

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001942

Like you mentioned, very specific naman yung veto message.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001943

It can be very specific where kung ano yung ayaw ng Presidente na provision, yun lang ang i-veto niya.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001944

And may I ask, bakit nyo po sinasabing maapektuhan ng economic growth?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001945

Kasi parang ang sinasabi nyo, effectively, by saying that this will affect economic growth,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001946

hindi ba nyo sinasabi na parang gagamitin natin ito as savings?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001947

Madam Speaker, Mr. Speaker, actually po yun po yung ginawa ng Presidente.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001948

Nag-line veto lang po siya ng particular items doon po sa 2026 budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001949

But ito po is the veto message, the Section 6 of veto message specifically governs increases in appropriations and new budgetary items.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001950

Based on your answer lang, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001951

Thank you very much, Mr. Presidente.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001952

Distinguished colleague, parang ang sinasabi nyo kasi, the reason why we introduced this provision is for the purpose na magkaroon ng flexibility yung Presidente para kung sakaling gagamitin niya, i-invoke niya yung public interest.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001953

interest na

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001954

provision, ay pwede pong

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001955

gamitin yung pera

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001956

at ilipat sa ibang

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001957

mga proyekto.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001958

May time, please.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001959

Pakitigil.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001964

Mr. Speaker, actually po kahit wala po itong provision na 'to, kahit wala po itong general provision na 'to, the President has the power vested by the Constitution to use savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001965

Under Section 25,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001966

Subsection 5,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001967

Article 6 of the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001968

1987 Constitution,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001969

no law shall be passed

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001970

authorizing any transfer

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001971

of appropriations. However,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001972

the President, the President of the Senate,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001973

the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Chief

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001974

Justice of the Supreme Court, and the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001975

Heads of Constitutional Commissions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001976

may, by law, be authorized

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001977

to augment any item in the General

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001978

Appropriations Law for their respective

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001979

offices from savings in other

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001980

items of their respective

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asr-001981

appropriations. So, mayroon din pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001982

constitutional basis ito pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001983

use of savings ng Pangulo.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001984

Sige. Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001985

kapag, I'll just go

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001986

on to my next question, no?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001987

Diyan rin naman tayo pupunta.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001988

Kapag pinatigil ang isang project under

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001989

Section 78, is it

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001990

merely suspended

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001991

or is it finally

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001992

discontinued or abandoned?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001993

Is it finally discontinued?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001994

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001995

if we base it on Section 78,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001996

it is merely suspended.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001997

It is not declared

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001998

as abandoned or

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-001999

hindi pa naman po siya technically na

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002000

de-declare as a savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002001

So, suspended lang po.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002002

So, Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002003

you agree that hindi po siya pwedeng

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002004

gamitin as savings?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002005

Kasi suspended pa lang siya?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002006

Technically nga po, hindi din po siya

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002007

pwede pang i-declare as savings

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002008

kasi hindi pa siya na-release.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002009

Because for something to be declared

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002010

as savings, it has to be,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002011

the SARA has to be released

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002012

to a particular agency

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002013

and the agency has to give it up

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002014

as savings. So,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002015

hindi po posible na

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002016

maging savings dahil po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002017

sa Section 78. So, merely

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002018

suspended lang po.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002019

Ang specific kasi na nakasabi po

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002020

sa Arawlio,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002021

stopping expenditure does not

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002022

automatically create savings.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002023

So, if you subsequently

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002024

declare the unused amount as savings,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002025

aren't you also

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002026

formally declaring that the project

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002027

has been finally discontinued

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002028

or abandoned?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002029

Madam,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002030

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002031

iba po yung suspension ng project

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002032

sa discontinuance.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002033

So, sa Section 78 po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002034

suspension lang po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002035

It still doesn't talk about the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002036

discontinuance, which is the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002037

prerequisite condition

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002038

for something to be

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002039

declared as savings.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002040

So, kailan po siya, from suspension,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002041

kailan siya nagiging savings?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002042

Ano yung procedure?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002043

And di ba po,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002044

based sa Arawlio,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002045

bawal po mag-suspend

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002046

before allotment.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002048

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002049

there are several steps

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002050

for something to be declared

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002051

as savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002052

So, the first po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002053

is for something to be released.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002054

Yun po yung number one.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002055

So, kailangan po ma-release po muna yung SARO.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002056

And then, after that,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002057

projects that have

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002058

been

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002059

released but have not been obligated

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002060

as a result of any

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002061

of the following conditions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002062

can be declared as savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002063

So, first condition po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002064

it can completion,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002065

final discontinuance,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002066

or abandonment of a program,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002067

activity, or project for which

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002068

the appropriation is authorized.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002069

Or, the second po would be

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002070

implementation of measures resulting

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002071

in improved systems and efficiencies

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002072

and thus enabled an agency

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002073

to meet and deliver the required

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002074

or planned targets, programs,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002075

and services approved in this Act

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002076

at a lesser cost.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002077

So, it's either

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002078

there were efficiencies

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002079

that were realized

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002080

or a project was considered

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002081

abandoned or

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002082

ruled as final discontinuance.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002083

Section 84 po ito

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002084

ng General Provisions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002085

Yung suspension po ba

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002086

ay pwedeng eventually

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002087

maging savings?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002088

Mr. Speaker, technically po, hindi.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002089

Kasi po, pag sinuspend po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002090

yung isang project, ibig sabihin po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002091

hindi po marirelease yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002092

SARO niya in the first place,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002093

which is the first step

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002094

for something to be considered

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002095

eventually as a saving.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002096

So, hindi po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002097

pag suspended po, wala pong posibilidad

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002098

na ma-declare siya bilang savings.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002099

Kung ang project na ito,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002100

project po ay

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002101

implementation ready naman

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002102

at pinatigil lang

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002103

because of public interest

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002104

so requires,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002105

hindi siya pwede maging,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002106

pwede ba siya maging savings?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002107

For, if we're going back po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002108

to Section 78,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002109

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002110

where public,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002111

when public interest

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asr-002112

so requires,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002113

was set forth as a condition,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002114

hindi po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002115

So, dahil yung Section 78 po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002116

ay tumutukoy lang po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002117

sa suspension,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002118

hindi po sa release.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002119

Kaya hindi po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002120

dahil po suspended, wala pong SARO,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002121

kaya po later on,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002122

hindi rin po pwedeng i-declare as savings.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002123

Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002124

hindi pwedeng suspended

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002125

kapag tinanong natin kung bakit pinatigil.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002126

Pero abandoned

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002127

naman kapag kailangan yung gumawa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002128

ng savings.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002129

So,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002130

ano ba talaga?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002131

Magkaiba po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002132

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002133

if I may draw the distinction.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002134

So, if a project is suspended,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002135

the SARO was not released

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asr-002136

in the first place.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002137

So, there is no ongoing project

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002138

to be declared as discontinued.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002139

So, magkaiba po yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002140

If I may draw the distinction,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002141

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002142

if something is suspended,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002143

wala pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002144

SARO na na-release,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002145

wala pong project na pwedeng i-declare

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002146

as discontinued.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002147

So, in effect po, wala din pong pwedeng

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002148

project na

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002149

pwedeng i-declare as savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002150

So, magkaiba po, just to draw the distinction po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002151

Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002152

But based on Arawlio, Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002153

distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002154

bawal po i-suspend

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002155

ang project

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002156

ng walang SARO.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002157

Very clear po yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002158

Mr. Speaker, if I may po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002159

in the Arawlio

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002160

ruling po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002161

it says na bawal pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002162

i-declare

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002163

my apologies, bawal pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002164

i-declare as savings

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002165

hanggang walang

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002166

SARO release. Wala pong nare-release

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002167

na SARO. So, it's not actually

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002168

in terms of suspension,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002169

it actually talks about the prohibition

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002170

of declaring

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002171

savings for a project

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002172

or a discontinued project for which

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002173

a SARO has not been released.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002174

In Arawlio,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002175

if you will look at the

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002176

It includes suspension po,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002177

Madam Chair.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002178

Mr. Speaker, we'll just pull up

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002179

the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002180

actual document for Arawlio.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002181

If we may request po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002182

for a few

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002183

seconds.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002186

Mr. Speaker, if we may request

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002187

for a moment

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002188

of suspension po for us just to be able

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002189

to pull the exact wordings from the Arawlio

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002190

jurisprudence.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-002191

Session suspended.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002200

Mr. Speaker, we're ready po.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-002200-split-2

Session is resumed.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002201

Mr. Speaker, if I may respond to our distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002202

So looking at the Araulio jurisprudence, it defines the terminology that would allow for the use of savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002203

If I may read out, just if you would allow me, Section 60, Section 54, and Section 53 of the General Provisions of the 2011, 2012, and 2013 GAAS, respectively, contemplate three sources of savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002204

So dinidefine po yung tatlong sources ng savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002205

First, there can be savings when there are funds still available after completion of work, activity, or project,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002206

which means there are excess funds remaining after the work, activity, or project is completed.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002207

There can also be savings when there is final discontinuance of the work, activity, or project,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002208

which means that there are funds remaining after work, activity, or project was started but finally discontinued before completion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002209

To illustrate, a bridge halfway completed is destroyed by floods or earthquake and thus finally discontinued

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002210

because the remaining funds are not sufficient.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002211

Here, the funds are obligated but the remaining funds are deobligated upon final discontinuance of the project.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002212

On the other hand, abandonment means the work, activity, or project can no longer be started because of lack of time to obligate the funds,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002213

resulting in the physical impossibility to obligate the funds.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002214

This happens when a month or two before the end of the fiscal year, there is no more time to conduct a public bidding to obligate the funds.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002218

The funds are not and can no longer be obligated and thus will constitute savings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002219

Dito po tayo sa last sentence mag-align.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002220

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, final discontinuance or abandonment excludes suspension or temporary stoppage of the work, activity, or the project.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002221

Suspension, as it is referred to here in the Arroyo jurisprudence,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002223

is the whole phrase po, suspension or temporary stoppage of the work, activity, or project.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002224

So it is not the same suspension that is talked about in Section 78 of the General Provision.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002225

Hindi po yun ang tinatanong ko, Madam Chair.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002226

What I was asking is, you replied earlier that the President has the power, can exercise the power to suspend

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002227

even before the end of the fiscal year.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002228

Even before the end of the fiscal year.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002229

Even before allotment.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002230

Ang very clear po na sinasabi sa Arroyo is that the President cannot exercise the power to suspend or stop expenditure under Section 38

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002231

towards appropriations as funds for it have yet to be released and allotted.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-002232

The Chair would like to remind Honorable Nazal, your time has expired.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-002233

Please wrap up your interpellation.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002234

Maantay ko lang po yung sagot nila, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002240

Mr. Speaker, we found the paragraph that Representative Nazal was referring to. If I may draw attention to a particular line which says Section 38 cannot be used by the President to stop permanently the expenditure of unobligated appropriated funds because that would amount to presidential power to impound funds appropriated in the GAA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002241

At yung nire-refer po ni Cong Robert is the next line: the President has no power to impound unobligated funds in the GAA. The operative word here po would be unobligated funds, and if something is categorized as unobligated, ibig sabihin po na-release na po iyon.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002242

So it's different from something that has not been released. So ibig sabihin, the operative term here is that the President has no power to impound funds in the GAA that have been released but not yet obligated.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002243

That's why in the succeeding sentences in the same paragraph the ruling reiterated the two reasons as also outlined in Section 84 on declaration of savings. So yun po, siguro po yung key doon: unobligated means it has already been released.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002244

So kailangan may SARO na. Kailangan po may SARO na.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002244-split-2

So only pag may SARO na, doon lang pwedeng i-invoke?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002244-split-3

Yes, yung use of savings po. The suspension applies to

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002244-split-4

unreleased funds.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002244-split-5

And for those that are obligated, sorry, released, yun na po yung naggo-govern yung use of savings.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002245

So only those which are allotted, or may allotment, ang pwedeng i-suspend?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002245-split-2

I-declare as savings po, not suspend. Ang pwede lang pong i-suspend ay yung hindi pa released, pero ang pwede lang pong i-declare as savings ay yung released na po, meaning may allotment na po.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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All right. Honorable Nazal, your time is up.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

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I just like to reiterate. Ang nakalagay po kasi sa Araulio

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002246

the President cannot exercise the power to suspend or stop expenditure under Section 38 towards appropriations as funds for it have yet to be released and allotted.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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Final from the Chair.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002246-split-3

Yes po, to that point, the President cannot declare something as savings. Cannot suspend, because something has

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002247

Yung...

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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So your time is up. Thank you so much, Majority Leader.

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Floor Leader

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Mr. Speaker, may we recognize the Honorable [unclear] of ACT Teachers Party-list for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-002247-split-4

The honorable member of ACT Teachers is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002248

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002249

Meron po tayong PowerPoint as aid in our interpellation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002250

If the sponsor will allow.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002251

Yes.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002252

If the majority leader po would allow.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002253

Pintayin lang po natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002254

Pakistop muna.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002255

Ayan, okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002256

Alright.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002257

So, medyo historical po ang ating...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002258

approach dito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002259

So, tinignan po natin yung budget from General Appropriations Act and NEP from 2016 to 2026 and of course the proposed for 2027.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002260

Ang unang pag-usapan po natin, yung usapin ng debt.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002261

Utang.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002262

So, ayan na, nasa laman ng balita na papalaki ng papalaki ang utang ng bansa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002263

So, gaano kalaki ang paglaki?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002264

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002265

2016.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002266

Ang...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002267

outstanding national debt was 6.09 trillion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002268

That was 2016.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002269

And by 2026, yung pangalawa, sa kanan, 19.7 trillion projected.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002270

Hindi pa po tapos ang 2026.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002271

And for 2027, it is projected to be 21.48 trillion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002272

Notably po, parang lumaki talaga or unang malaking talon was in...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002273

2020.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002274

The debt.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002275

From 7.7 trillion, naging 9.8 trillion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002276

And then, mula noon, if you're looking at the trends, ay tuloy-tuloy po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002277

Steeper.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002278

You can see a much steeper rise from 2020 onwards up to the present.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002279

Ano po ang explanation ng ating mga economic managers?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002280

Why was it that from 2020 onwards, ay...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002281

naging mas pambihira o mas malaki ang paglaki ng utang?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002282

Yung oras po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002284

Dapat pala, binabantayan yung oras dito.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002293

Mr. Speaker, my apologies. It took us and the [unclear] family some time to pull out the historical data.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002294

So for actual debt as a percentage of nominal GDP,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002295

tama po yung binanggit ni Representative Tinio

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002296

na malaki po yung tinaas sa pagitan po ng 2019 and 2020.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002297

Ang dahilan po dito ay yung COVID response na ating gobyerno.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002298

So umutang po ng malaki yung ating gobyerno.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002299

Tumaas po yung ating actual debt as a percentage of nominal GDP

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002300

from 39.6% in 2019 up to 54.6% in 2020.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002301

And thereafter po, binabayada na po natin yung mga interest payments

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002302

at yung maturity po noong mga inutang natin noong 2019.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002303

So yun po yung dahilan kung bakit napaka laki po noong talon

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002304

noong ating debt servicing simula po 2019.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002305

Okay, and let us note yung sinabi nyo,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002306

in 2019, debt to GDP ratio was at 39.6%.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002307

39.6%.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002308

But currently, it's already,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002309

around 65%.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002310

As of 2026 po, 66%.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002311

66%.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002312

So lagpas na po dun sa usual benchmark, di ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002313

And even that benchmark,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002314

I have something to say about that benchmark.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002315

Kasi iba na yung sinasabing benchmark ng DOF ngayon

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002316

kumpara noong, naalala ko to,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002317

noong una kaming nasa kongreso ni Kong Alvarez eh,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002318

na nakikita ko,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002319

sina,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002320

purisima?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002321

Iba eh.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002322

Okay, but anyway.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002323

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002324

if I may clarify lang po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002325

what we use against the benchmark

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002326

is not the actual debt as a percentage of nominal GDP

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002327

as stated in the presentation.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002328

Rather, it's general government debt

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002329

as a percentage of GDP.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002330

And if we look at general government debt,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002331

it's only at 58.6 for 2026.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002332

So it's below the benchmark po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002333

Alright, alright.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002334

Sige.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002335

So depende pala kung anong pipiliin nating benchmark.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002336

Okay, but anyway,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002337

we'll have more on that I suppose

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002338

when DOF comes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002339

But, so papalaki ang utang.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002340

So ang explanation,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002341

kinailangan ng umutang na malaki dahil sa COVID response

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002342

at mula noon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002343

kailangan bayaran.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002344

So kaya lumalaki lalo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002345

Parang ganun yung paliwanag.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002346

Anyway, this is the reality.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002347

If you go to the next table,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002348

consequently,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002349

next table,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002350

wala na po.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002351

This is just a graph to visualize the debt payment.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002352

So yung pag, obviously,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002353

lumalaki ang utang,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002354

lumalaki ang debt payment.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002355

So yung blue is principal amortization

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002356

and orange is interest payments.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002357

So in 2016,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002358

total debt payments were,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002359

can you imagine,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002360

790 million,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002361

a billion pesos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002362

So 790,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002363

20 billion pesos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002364

Pero ngayon pong,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002365

2026,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002366

2.05 trillion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002367

And for 2027,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002368

it's projected to be at

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002369

2.7 trillion pesos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002370

So yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002371

stands to reason,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002372

dahil mas malaki ang utang,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002373

mas malaki ang babayaran.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002374

Hindi na po kailangan ng response.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002375

Basta,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002376

tama po ba yan?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002377

Yung figures.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002378

That for 2026,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002379

25 principal and interest payments,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002380

2.05 trillion,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002381

and then 2.7 trillion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002382

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002383

if we may clarify po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002384

the figures presented by the Honorable Tinio

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002385

are not debt servicing figures.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002386

Rather,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002387

these are gross borrowings po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002388

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002389

Well,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002390

kinuha natin ito sa BESF

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002391

and their principal amortization

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002392

and interest payments.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002393

Di po ba?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002394

Yung nabanggit po,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002395

dito po sa chart,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002396

ay gross borrowings po.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002397

Yung interest payments po,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002398

mas mababa po.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002399

For 2016,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002400

sorry,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002401

for 2026 po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002402

yun na lang po,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002403

siguro yung ikumpa na natin.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002404

Okay.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002405

Instead of the 2 point,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002406

as compared to the 2.05 trillion

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002407

in gross borrowings,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002408

Okay.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002409

P995 billion po.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002410

And then for 2027,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002411

ang projected po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002412

as compared to the 2.7 trillion

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002413

in gross borrowings,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002414

1.11 trillion pesos po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002415

Yes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002416

If the,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002417

pwede pong i-

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002418

i-highlight yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002419

yung orange part.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002420

Ayan yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002421

Bakit yung,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002422

the figures you mentioned,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002423

the orange part,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002424

that's 1.11 trillion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002425

That's the interest payments.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002426

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002427

Tapos,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002428

in 2026,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002429

that's 995 trillion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002430

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002431

we're talking,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002432

we're using the same figures here.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002433

Okay.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002434

My apologies po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002435

Medyo nahirapan po kami.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002436

Ang liit po kasi ng numbers.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002437

I think,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002438

ang nangyari po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002439

in-add po yung interest,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002440

payments at yung

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002441

amortization po.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002442

Tama po.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002443

So, in-add po yung column

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002444

ng interest payments

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002445

and principal payments.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002446

Yes.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002447

Okay.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002448

That's correct.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002449

Sige po.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002450

We have,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002451

we're aligned po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002452

We're aligned.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002453

We're aligned.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002454

Our apologies,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002455

sobrang liit po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002456

kasi hindi talaga naman makita.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002457

Tama po ang datos natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002458

Yun lang po ang point.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002459

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002460

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002461

para maintindihan ng publiko,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002462

magkano yung binabayaran,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002463

binabayaran at babayaran

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002464

nating utang.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002465

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002466

principal and interest payments

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002467

for 2027,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002468

sa proposed budget,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002470

aabot yan sa

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002471

2.7 trillion pesos.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002472

Yun lang po yung point natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002473

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002474

Now,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002475

of course,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002476

napakalaki.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002477

Imagine.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002478

Tapos, alam natin,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002479

yung principal amortization,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002480

di na nga kasama yan sa ano eh.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002481

Sa GAA na ina-aprobahan natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002482

Automatic yan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002483

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002484

Even the interest payments.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002485

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002486

So, labas pa to

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002487

dun sa 7.2 trillion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002488

Na,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002489

pinapakasama,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002490

ipa-aprubahan sa atin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002491

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002492

Ngayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002493

napakalaking utang.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002494

Napakalaking binabayaran.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002495

Ang tanong po ngayon,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002496

well,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002497

tignan natin yung budget.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002498

First of all,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002499

how much of our budget

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002500

is funded by debt?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002501

So, ibig sabihin,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002502

deficit spending.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002503

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002504

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002505

So, that's the next table.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002506

So, yan po yung budget

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002507

and then yung blue,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002508

the orange part,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002509

that's the deficit part.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002510

So, obviously,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002511

papalaki na rin

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002512

from 2020 onwards,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002513

papalaki na rin yung

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002514

total of the

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002515

GAA

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002516

funded by debt.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002517

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002518

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002519

in the case of

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asr-002520

2026,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002521

the current budget,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002522

24%

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002523

is deficit,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002524

deficit,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002525

will be funded by

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002526

deficit payment.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002527

Deficit payment.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002528

O, deficit spending.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002529

1.6 trillion pesos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002530

And then,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002531

for

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002532

2027,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002533

proposed budget,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002534

ganun din,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002535

around 1.69 trillion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002536

Tama po ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002537

Whereas, in 2016,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002538

in 2016,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002539

total of 13%

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002540

of the budget

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002541

was funded by debt.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002542

Yung deficit spending.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002543

In 2016,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002544

yung 27,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002545

it will be 24%

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002546

of total budget.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002547

Yun po yung point natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002548

Now, almost

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002549

one-fourth

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asr-002550

of the GAA

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002551

will be

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002552

funded through

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002553

deficit spending.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002554

Meaning,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002555

from debt,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002556

mainly.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002557

Tama po ba?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002558

That is correct,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002559

Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002560

Yes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002561

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002562

So, 1.69 trillion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002563

sa 7.2

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002564

for next year,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002565

kailangan utangin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002566

In-utang na.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002567

Or utangin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002568

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002569

Ngayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002570

ang tanong na,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002571

sabi nga,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002572

umuutang tayo

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002573

or living beyond our means.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002574

Ika nga, no?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002575

Ang usapin lang naman,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002576

and you will probably argue,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002577

kaya pa rin nating bayaran.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002578

Diba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002579

Ngayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002580

ang tanong na ngayon is,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002581

where does that deficit spending go to?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002582

Diba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002583

Sa napunta yung inutang mo?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002584

Yung pinag-utanga natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002585

sa napupunta?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002586

Ang gusto ko pang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002587

i-highlight dito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002588

well,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002589

what did that deficit spending enable?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002590

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002591

Ang gusto po natin ipakita rito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002592

among others,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002593

it enabled

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002594

massive increase

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002595

in public infrastructure

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002596

and to highlight,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002597

flood control.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002598

Pa?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002599

So, what does this table show?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002600

Ang pinapakita po natin

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002601

sa table na to,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002602

again, same time frame,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002603

2016 to 2020,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002604

27 proposed,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002605

ang pinapakita po rito

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002606

ay yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002607

increase

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002608

ng appropriations

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002609

for flood control.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002610

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002611

And,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002612

what do we note?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002613

Actually,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002614

ang makikita natin dito

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002615

ay talagang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002616

significant

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002617

ang naging paglaki ng flood control

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002618

starting in 2018.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002619

2018.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002620

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002621

From 430 billion,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002622

naging 613 billion,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002623

613 billion,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002624

in 2018.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002625

But,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002626

pero,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002627

pinakamarkado talaga

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002628

ang paglaki.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002629

Of course,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002630

in the golden age

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002631

of flood control

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002632

dito sa Pilipinas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002633

the first three years

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002634

of the Marcos Junior Administration.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002635

2023.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002636

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002637

Total of 287 billion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002638

ang flood control alone.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002639

At,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002640

2024,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002641

the peak,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002642

357 billion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002643

ang flood control alone.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002644

At,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002654

At,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002655

2025,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002656

353 billion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002657

ang flood control alone.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002658

Okay?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002659

Of course,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002660

alam natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002661

2026,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002662

halos nawala yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002663

And then,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002664

ngayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002665

gustong ibalik.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002666

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002667

ngayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002668

meron

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002669

for DPWH,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002670

this is actually

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002671

just DPWH,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002672

may 83 billion

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002673

for flood control

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002674

in DPWH.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002675

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002676

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002677

tama po ba

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002678

na talagang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002679

naging pambihira

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002680

ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002681

flood control

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002682

ng DPWH?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002683

Naging pambihira

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002684

ang,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002685

naging

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002686

significant

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002687

ang paglaki ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002688

flood control

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002689

during the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002690

Marcos,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002691

the first

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002692

three years

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002693

of the Marcos Jr.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002694

administration.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002695

It's right there.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002696

Tama naman,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002720

Based on the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002721

Um,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002722

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002723

That is correct po.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002724

Yes,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002725

of course,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002726

it's correct.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002727

Now,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002728

so in other words

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002729

ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002730

parang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002731

gusto kong

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002732

ipakita rito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002733

umutang tayo ng malaki.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002734

large budget deficit,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002735

Funded by debt.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002736

Saan napunta yun?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002737

Anong pinunduhan nun?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002738

Sinasabi natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002739

a significant expansion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002740

of flood control.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002741

It's one.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002742

The other that I would like to point out,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002743

ayuda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002744

So, ayuda naman.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002745

Ano nangyari sa ayuda?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002746

So, again, we looked at 2016

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002747

to 2027.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002748

Then, DSWD, DOLE, and DOH.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002749

Yan yung mga major ayuda agencies.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002750

Let's call them that.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002751

DSWD.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002752

Nung 2016 po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002753

ang AICS,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002754

alam nyo kung magkano ang AICS nung 2016?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002755

Ang AICS po nung 2016,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002756

last year of the Aquino administration,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002757

P697 million.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002758

P697 million.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002759

P697 million pesos.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002760

Pero,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002761

nakita natin

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002762

ang significant na paglaki

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002763

starting, let's say, in 20,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002764

well,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002765

sabihin na natin 2020.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002766

And maybe we can understand,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002767

pandemia.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002768

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002769

So, 8.7

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002770

billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002771

So, from P697 million,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002772

8.7 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002773

Pero, kahit tapos na ang pandemia,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002774

even up to the present,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002775

ay tuloy-tuloy ang paglaki

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002776

ng AICS,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002777

or what I will call,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002778

patronage-based

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002779

ayuda.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002780

By the way, yung blue dito,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002781

yan yung four-piece.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002782

Nakikita ko si Congressman Abalos, 4-piece party list.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002783

Yung blue 4-piece.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002784

So let's call that the parametric-based ayuda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002785

Parametric ayuda, meron mga objective criteria supposedly

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002786

as against the patronage-based ayuda, which is AIC.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002787

Okay, makita po natin, especially in 2022, 23, 24, 25,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002788

pambihira po ang naging paglaki ng AICs.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002789

In 2026, it was 63.8 billion pesos.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002790

63.8 billion pesos.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002791

That's a 9,000% increase from the AICs level in 2016.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002792

Times 90. Times 90 plus ang naging increase ng AICs.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002793

Noong 2024 and 2025, AICs yung orange, meron pangyelo dyan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002794

Yung AICs na nadagdaga ng tinatawag na ACAP.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002795

Yan yung dalawang taon na ACAP,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002796

which is another form of patronage-based ayuda.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002797

So yun po ang point. Ngayon sa Dole, Tupad.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002798

In 2016, Tupad was 3.2 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002799

At the peak, 2024, it became 29 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002800

29 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002801

How many times ang increase nito?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002802

Times 3.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002803

Times 6, sorry.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002804

Six times increase.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002805

Six times increase.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002806

Tapos, medyo bumaba yung levels ng Tupad,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002807

pero generally much higher.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002808

And you can see,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002809

as a percentage,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002810

yung Dole budget, yun yung blue.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002811

The rest of the Dole budget, that's the blue.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002812

Yung Dole budget, halos di lumalaki.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002813

Lumalaki lang sa budget ng Dole,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002814

yung Tupad.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002815

Kaya nga sa briefing, sabi ko,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002816

ano ba ang Dole? Ayuda agency na ba ito?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002817

Rather than an agency, supposedly,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002818

for protecting workers' rights?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002819

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002820

And then, MAIF.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002821

Okay. The MAIF story is

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002822

it's the same, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002823

In 2016,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002824

1.4 billion pesos ang tama ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002825

Ang MAIF.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002826

Pero, 2026, it was 51 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002827

So, from 1 billion to 51 billion in one decade.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002828

So, again, how many times increase yan?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002829

Times 40 plus, roughly.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002830

I don't know.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002831

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002832

So, ano ang point?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002833

So, ang pinakita,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002834

nabaon tayo sa utang,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002835

malaki ang binabayaran.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002836

Yung utang na yun,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002837

ginamit for deficit spending.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002838

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002839

So, yung hindi kinikita through taxes,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002840

utangin natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002841

San ginamit yung deficit spending na yun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002842

Malaking bahagi,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002843

ginamit para sa pork barrel.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002844

Dalawang klase.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002845

Infrastructure.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002846

Flood control.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002847

Hindi ko na nga sinama yung iba pang infrastructure.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002848

Nandyan din yan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002849

Flood control,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002850

as well as patronage-based ayuda.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002851

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002852

So, yun po sinasabi natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002853

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002854

Tama po ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002855

Is my analysis correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002856

Madam, Mr. Speaker, and Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002857

Mr. Speaker, if we may segment

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002858

Okay.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002859

All right.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002860

The different topics

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002861

that were put forth,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002862

yung doon po sa nabanggit,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002863

siguro po kasi ang dami po na noona,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002864

present po muna yung deficit

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002865

as a percentage of the budget,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002866

and then pangalawa po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002867

in-associate po doon po sa flood control

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002868

budgets per year,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002869

tapos ito po, yung mga social services.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002870

So, siguro po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002871

yung sa flood control po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002872

at saka sa borrowing,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002873

siguro po, we would like to highlight po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002874

that most of the borrowings,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002875

tinanong po kanina ng ating distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002876

where the deficit went.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002877

Essentially, what was funded using the deficit?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002878

Actually po, majority of the deficit

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002879

went into funding different ODA,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002880

big-ticket ODA items.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002881

For example po, the North-South Commuter Railway

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002882

started in 2015 as an ODA project,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002883

and then the Metro Manila Subway project

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002884

started in 2018.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002885

So, majority of the borrowings

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002886

went towards funding

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002887

the counterparts po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002888

for those big-ticket items po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002889

Well, of course,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002890

pwedeng sabihin yun,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002891

pero in the end, pwede rin sabihin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002892

eh yung pera na yan, fungible.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002893

Diba? They're all in one pot.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002894

Diba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002895

And yung kasamahan natin dito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002896

si Congressman [unclear], sinasabing,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002897

hindi nga napopondohan yung ODA eh.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002898

Nilalagay saan program?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002899

Pero what I posit here is that

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002900

since the budget and all sources

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002901

are fungible, ultimately,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002902

ang sinasabing natin dito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002903

one thing made possible by the deficit spending,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002904

funded by debt,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002905

is the massive expansion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002906

in what I call pork barrel projects.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002907

Both yung tinatawag nating hard, infra,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002908

at saka yung soft, ayuda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002909

So, yun po ang ating pinapakita rito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002910

Ngayon, hindi lang yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002911

I mean, next table,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002912

the other thing we will show here is

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002913

yung a new kind of pork

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002914

na lumabas only

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002915

for 2026.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002916

That is the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002917

LGSF.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002918

Yun yung tinatanong kanina ni Congressman Erice

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002919

at iba pa, no?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002920

Na 2026 lang yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002921

And that's on the right, what you see.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002922

Yung pambihirang paglaki sa GAA,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002923

actually Congressional Initiative,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002924

if you will, you know, be strict about it,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002925

yung paglaki ng yung 57.8 billion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002926

na LGSF, 37 billion of which is,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002927

yung FALGO,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002928

Financial Assistance to Local Government Units.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002929

Hindi na tayo magtatagal dyan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002930

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002931

Now, and then the next table that I'll show,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002932

pasensya na po, data overload siguro,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002933

pero wala.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002934

We're talking about 10 years of appropriations, no?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002935

Go to the next table.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002936

Next table pa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002937

That's unprogrammed appropriations.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002938

So, unprogrammed appropriations

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002939

from 2016 to 20...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002940

2027.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002941

Okay, proposed.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002942

Wala, yan. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002943

Well, what is remarkable here?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002944

You know, pag binisualize mo, makikita mo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002945

Actually, you will see that una muna,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002946

from 2016 to 2021,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002947

even during the peak of the pandemic,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002948

kung ano yung pinroposed ng NEP na unprogrammed,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002949

yun din yung aprobahan ng Kongreso.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002950

And generally, at a lower level.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002951

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002952

2016, 67.5 billion yung UA.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002953

And then 2021, kasagsagan ng pandemia,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002954

unprogrammed is 176 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002955

Kung anong pinroposed ng NEP, yun din ang in-approve ng Kongreso.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002956

Pero, starting in 2022, the last year,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002957

the last budget of the Duterte administration,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002958

ito yung unang kagat sa mansanas.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002959

Ika nga. No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002960

Biglang natuklasan ng Kongreso.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002961

Teka muna.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002962

Pwede pala nating lakihan tong unprogrammed appropriations.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002963

So, 2022, the proposed is 151B.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002964

But GAA, 251B.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002965

So, lumaki by 100B.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002966

And then, really, pagupo ng Marcos Jr. administration, tinodo na.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002967

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002968

Yung pag-abuso sa unprogrammed appropriations.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002969

2023, unbelievable, 807 billion ang unprogrammed appropriations.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002970

Tapos 2024, 731 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002971

And then 2025, bumaba sa 336.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002972

Tapos dahil naging constitutional issue na ito, and so on and so forth,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002973

ayan, papaliit ngayon ang unprogrammed.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002974

Ang iba nga. Sinasabi.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002975

Dapat tanggalin na outright.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002976

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002977

But this is the story of unprogrammed appropriations.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002978

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002979

Now, why is this relevant?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002980

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002981

Ano ba ang nangyari?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002982

Well, alam natin na yung modus ng unprogrammed appropriations, bakit lumaki ng ganyan?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002983

Because regular items of the budget were being forced into unprogrammed appropriations

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002984

to create space for...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002985

Congressional insertions.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002986

Yung mga dagdag na ayuda, dagdag na flood control, at iba pa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002987

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002988

Tama po ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002989

Are my facts correct?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002990

Madam sponsor, tama po ba yan?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002991

Mr. Speaker, siguro po ang aking pong nais-isagot sa ating kasamahan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002993

Yung 2026 po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002994

Siguro doon po kasi ako nagsimula man nung...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002996

Nagsimula man nung kulan bilang chairperson ng Committee on Appropriations.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-002999

Yun po yung maaari ko pong maipaliwanag.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003001

Because that is within my purview na po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003002

So ang ginawa po talaga natin noong 2026, sinagurado po natin, nalinagyan po natin ng

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003003

karampatang safeguards yung mga unprogrammed appropriations po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003004

Makikita po sa version po ng house na inaproobahan po natin ng GAB, tinanggal nga po natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003005

yung infrastructure mula doon sa sagip.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003006

So hindi na po natin pinayagan na magkaroon po ng kahit ano na releases patungo sa infrastructure

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003007

galing po sa unprogrammed appropriations.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003008

Kaya makikita din po natin yung ating ginawang pag-rationalize ng mga allowable items under

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003009

unprogrammed appropriations during the HGAB as well as yung veto po na isinagawa na ating

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003010

Pangulo sa 2026 GAA nung unprogrammed appropriations.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003011

Nakita po natin ang laki po ng binaba.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003012

At ngayon po ang 2027, kung titignan po natin, ito po yung pinakamababa.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003013

In nominal terms po, yung unprogrammed appropriations for the year 2027 as proposed in the NEP

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003014

is the lowest since 1991 as a percentage of the budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003015

Kung nominal terms naman po yung ating titignan, siguro po pagbabasihan po natin dito, at least 2019 po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003016

yun po yung pinakamababa in nominal terms.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003017

So, rest assured po, in the 2027 budget, sisiguraduhin po natin na kung ano man yung mga papayagan natin,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003018

yung mga allowable uses under the unprogrammed appropriations na ating po aaprobahan sa House version ng General Appropriations Bill,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003019

sisiguraduhin po talaga natin na may safeguards yun at talagang doon lang pupunta sa pinakakinakailangan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003020

Halimbawa po yung mga foreign assisted projects, risk management, yung mga obligasyon po natin na kinakailangan-kailangan po talaga ng standby funds.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003021

Okay, thank you Madam Chair. So, ang point ko dito sa overview, baliktanaw sa 10 years ng pagbabudget,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003022

una, na markado talaga ang paglaki ng utang starting during the pandemic.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003023

Naintindihan pa natin siguro, kailangan talagang umutang.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003024

Pero nagtuloy-tuloy ito. Ngayon lumaki na rin yung deficit spending sa panahon yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003025

So, ang tanong ngayon, saan ginamit yung utang? Napakinabangan ba ng taong bayan?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003026

Pinakita natin, well, malaking bahagi ng inutang ginamit para mapalaki yung DPWH budget.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003027

Particularly flood control. Flood control lang pinakita natin dito. Hindi natin sinama yung mga iba pa, mga road, bridges, etc.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003028

But it follows the same trend. So, saan ginamit ang utang? Ginamit ang utang para sa flood control.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003029

Ginamit din ang utang para palakihin astronomically ang ayuda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003030

So, yung TUPAD, yung AICS.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003031

So, anong naging pakinabang ng sambayan ng Pilipino?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003032

At ano ang naging pakinabang sa ekonomiya, sa pambansa, sa pag-unlad?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003033

Ito na po ang point natin. Dahil sa ganito, ang nangyari, alam natin nangyari sa flood control.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003034

Ang nangyari sa flood control, ang laki ng binuhos, lumalala pa ang baha.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003035

Samantala, ang daming, ayan na, naging bahagi na ng araw-araw na pananalita ng mga kababayan natin, yung maleta.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003036

Ayan na, ang daming nakatanggap daw ng maleta. That's because of the flood control corruption scandal, plunder.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003037

So, a significant portion of the flood control money, according to whistleblowers,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003038

like Bernardo, Yusec Bernardo, former Secretary Bonoan, napunta raw sa kickback.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003039

Diba? As high as 30 to 50 percent of that money.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003040

Okay. So, doon napunta sa corruption. Hindi sa aktual na proyektong pinakinabangan ng taong bayan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003041

Ganun din po. Paano naman yung ayuda?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003042

Sabi ko nga, TUPAD. Sorry, AICS.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003043

9,000 percent growth in AICS.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003044

Growth in AICS over a decade. Okay. Sabihin, well, natulungan naman ang kababayan natin ng AICS. And it's true.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003045

Diba? For the most part, talaga namang nakakatulong sa taong bag. Ganun din naman yung MyFIP. Diba? It's a medical assistance. Sure. Okay. Pero ang sinasabi nga, ito yung patronage-based. Kailangan dumaan ka kay congressman, kailangan dumaan ka kay senator o kung sino paman. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003046

The other question is, so napunta, in other words, saan napunta ang napakalaking inutang?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003047

Ang pinupunta po natin dito ay napunta sa pork barrel, flood control, at sa patronage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003048

Social services as patronage. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003049

Saan hindi napunta?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003050

Hindi napunta, I mean, napakalaking ng inutang natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003051

Pwede rin naman sana inilagay ito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003052

Sa pagpapalakas ng agrikultura, pagpapalakas ng manupaktura.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003053

Nakikita ko si Dep Dev Sek Balisakan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003054

Sinasabi niya, ang problema raw ng ekonomiya natin, largely consumption-driven.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003055

Well, pagka puro ayuda ang binibigay mo, ayun, consumption-driven.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003056

Hindi ka lumili ka ng bago at pangmatagalang trabaho.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003057

So, Madam, Mr. Chair, Madam Speaker, marami pa po tayo. Parang part one pa lang po tayo.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-003058

The Chair would like to remind Honorable Tinio that your time has expired.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-003059

Okay. So, the Honorable Suansing will respond.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003060

Yes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003061

No. Mr. Speaker, that was just my first point, no, that nabaon po tayo sa utang.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003062

Okay. Especially under the Marcos Jr. Administration, where did that debt go?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003063

No, it went to fund pork barrel, yung flood control, at saka yung pagpapalaki ng ayuda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003064

No. So, dependence instead of economic independence.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003065

Mr. Speaker, marami pa po tayong tanong. I suppose I can continue this.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003066

During the interpellation of DEVDEV and then DBM, since magkakaugnay naman po yung mga tanong natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003067

So, hanggang dyan na lang po. Marami kalamat.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003068

Thank you. Majority Leader.

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Floor Leader

asr-003069

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize Honorable Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Party-list to interpellate the provisions and principles.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-003070

The Honorable Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003071

Magandang araw sa lahat.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003072

Ginoong Speaker, isang linggo na lang bago ang unang anibersaryo ng Baha sa Luneta at Trillion Peso March noong September 21, 2025.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003073

Kung kailan, libo-libong mga kababayan natin ang kumilos, nagmarcha at nagprotesta laban sa mga pagbaha, laban sa korupsyon at laban sa kawalan ng pananagutan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003074

Ang isa sa mga bunga ng pagigigit ng mamamayan, ang pagsasama ng Section 19 ng Prohibition on Political Involvement in the Distribution of Cash and Other Forms of Financial Assistance sa 2026.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003075

na ngayon ay nasa Section 20 na ng ating 2027 General Appropriations Bill.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003076

Ang katanungan ko sa ating sponsor, at nagmula na rin sa naunang interpellation ni Representative Tinio, kung saan naipakita sa atin na bilyon-bilyon pa rin yung nakalaan para sa ayuda at malaki yung panawagan ng ating mga kababayan na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003078

matugunan yung mga issue na may kinalaman sa pork, may kinalaman sa patronage, may kinalaman sa korupsyon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003079

Kaya lahat ba ng national government agencies na responsable sa pamimigay ng cash assistance

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003080

at iba pang financial aid ay nakapagbuo at nakapagpatupad ng kanilang mga requirements, protocols, at reporting mechanisms?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003081

Para matiyak ang strict compliance sa Section 19 ng 2026 GAA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003082

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues, so for these po, if you would look at Section 19,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003083

I would use specific examples po to respond to the query of our Distinguished Colleagues.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003084

Halimbawa po, for AICS, under DSWD, bumuo po ng sarili nilang internal guidelines yung iba't-ibang mga ahensya.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003085

I believe it's the same po. Nakita ko rin po yun, may guidelines yung MAEFIP, may guidelines po yung TAPAD.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003086

So nagsagawa po sila ng kanilang kanya-kanyang internal guidelines po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003087

At pagdating po sa monitoring, sila din po sa loob na ahensya, yung nagsisigurado na may strict enforcement po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003088

ng kanilang mga internal guidelines.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003089

So ito ang maaaring maarating kaakibat po noong Section 19.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003090

Mr. Speaker, para masigurado, maari ba nating malaman kung ano ang bilang ng Department Order,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003091

Memorandum Circular ba yan, or Administrative Order, na magtitiyak ng maayos na paggamit sa mga programa na ito?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003092

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003093

ang pwede po naming gawin ay kukuha po kami ng kopya nung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003094

iba't ibang department order or memorandum circular ng iba't ibang ahensya na apektado po nitong Section 19, at maaari po naming ibigay sa ating kasamahan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003095

Mr. Speaker, sa isang madaling paghahanap, halimbawa sa Department of Social Welfare and Development para sa kanilang Protective Services for Individuals and Families in Difficult Circumstances, nakasama rito yung AICS.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003096

Ang pinakahuling nilabas nilang memorandum circular tungkol sa guidelines sa implementation ng programa na ito ay noong 2022 pa sa kanilang memorandum circular No. 15, Series of 2022.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003097

Gayon din sa halimbawa sa Department of Labor and Employment sa kanilang programa sa tupad.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003098

Ang pinakahuli na nilabas ay noong 2023 pa sa Department Order No. 239.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003099

Pagdating naman sa Department of Health para sa kanilang medical assistance para sa indigent patients,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003100

ang pinakahuli po na lumabas ay meron ng Administrative Order No. 2026-0031.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003101

Ngunit kung titignan nyo yung body ng mismong nilabas na guidelines na ito, wala hong pagkakabanggit ng Section 19 na magtitiyak ng prohibisyon ng political involvement sa distribution.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003102

ng cash assistance at financial aid.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003104

Ano hong masasabi dito ng ating sponsor?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003105

Opo, kinukuha lang po namin yung mismong kopya po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003106

Pero halimbawa po, yung doon po sa DSWD, siguradong sigurado po ako na merong pagbanggit, kung hindi man po nila nabanggit yung Section 19 specifically, yung wording po ay nakaayon doon po sa nakalagay sa Section 19.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003107

Kukunin lang po namin sa DSWD.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003108

Yun po talaga, linalagay talaga yung exact wording po na yung hindi po pwedeng maging present or walang kahit anong paraphernalia na pwedeng ilagay sa kahit anuman sa mga cash assistance releases ng DSWD.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003109

So sure po ako doon, may bago pong guideline yung DSWD na re-release lang po pagkatapos ng 2026 GA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003110

Sigurado din po ako sa MAIFIP. Yun po naka-explicitly stated po doon yung nabawal na po yung guarantee letter.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003111

Ganon po ka-explicit yung nakalagay doon po sa MAIFIP.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003112

So kinukuha ko lang po, pero ang pagkakaalam po natin ay lahat po ng mga ahensya na nabanggit po dito, masisigurado ko po yung DSWD at saka yung AX at saka MAIFIP kasi yun po yung nakita ko po yung kopya.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003113

Na meron po, nabanggit po yung ating intention doon po sa Section 19.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003114

Mr. Speaker, napakahirap pong maging sigurado kung walang ispesipikong numero.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003115

Kaya hintayin po natin yung kopya ng mga guidelines na yan dahil hindi natin gusto na parang token lang yung pagsasama ng seksyon na ito na magagamit sana natin para labanan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003116

labanan yung paggamit sa pamumulitika o sa patronahe ng ganitong tipo ng mga serbisyo at mga programa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003142

Ngayon naman, nakasaad din, Ginoong Speaker, sa Section 19 ang obligasyon ng Joint Congressional Oversight Committee on Public Expenditures.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003143

Para bantayan, subaybayan ang compliance ng mga national government agencies pagdating sa programa na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003144

at yung compliance mismo ng NGAs.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003145

Maaari ba nating malaman, nakapagpulong ba ang Joint Congressional Oversight Committee na ito?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003146

At ano sa ngayon, yung inyong mga findings?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003147

Mr. Speaker, sa totoo po, ito pong Joint Congressional Oversight Committee on Public Expenditures

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003148

hindi pa po na-co-convene para po sa 20th Congress.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003149

Ang dahilan po ay dahil nagkaroon po ng pagkakataon na nauna po kasing kino-convene yung InfraCom.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003150

So medyo nagsabay-sabay po kasi yung mga oversight committees na pareho po yung intention na kanila pong babantayan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003151

So ang assurance po na maibibigay po natin sa ating distinguished colleague

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003152

ay i-convene po natin soon yung Joint Congressional Oversight Committee.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003153

Mr. Speaker, kailan ho balak ng Joint Congressional Oversight Committee na makapagpulong para dito?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003154

Sa kasalukuyan po kasi, nagsabay po yung budget deliberations ng Kamara at ng Senado.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003155

Medyo inaayos lang po namin ng ating counterpart sa Senado, si Sen. J.V. Ejercito po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003156

yung chairman po ng Committee on Finance.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003157

Pero kapag naayos po namin ito, ipabalitaan ko po kayo kaagad kung kailan po i-convene.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003158

Medyo nabibusy lang po sa schedule ng budget hearings sa parehong kapulungan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003159

Naintindihan natin, Mr. Speaker, pero sa kabila nito, nakakadismaya pa rin po na nilalagay natin ang mga mahalagang seksyon na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003160

Ngunit hindi po natin nakikita.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003161

O ay nagiging strikto na tayo din ay nagiging seryoso sa pagpapatupad ng mga seksyon na makakatulong sa atin,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003162

natiyakin na ang bawat piso napupunta talaga sa serbisyo para sa tao.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003163

Kaya ho, abangan natin yung mga guidelines.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003164

At sana ho, kung meron ng initial na assessment, monitoring, ang DSWD, ang DOLE, gayon din ang DOH,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003165

sa pagtitiyak nito, ay pag-aaralan din.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003166

O, ng representasyon na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003167

Napakahalaga nito, ginoong speaker, dahil, halimbawa na lang po, gano'n ba kalaki yung pinag-uusapan natin na pondo?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003168

Sa, yung pondo sa AECS, na nasa 63.9 billion para sa 2026.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003169

Yan ho ay lagpa sa doble ng buong pondo ng Department of Science and Technology.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003170

At yan din ho ay bilyong-bilyong pondo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003173

At sana ay nailalaan din natin.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003174

Sa ibang mga proyekto, halimbawa, yung tulong para sa mga children with disability,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003175

yung tulong para sa mga nagiging biktima ng online sexual abuse and exploitation of children,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003176

yung tulong para sa mga adolescent parents and mothers,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003177

ang lakiho na pangangailangan sa mga projects na yan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003178

Ngunit nakita natin na hindi nabibigyan ng sapat na pondo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003179

Ngayon.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003179-split-2

Yes.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003180

Opo.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003181

Kung maaari po akong tumugon, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003182

ito pong mga nabanggit po ni Representative Elago,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003183

isa din po yan sa ating mga tinututukan ng mga programa.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003184

Kung matatandaan po natin sa Barisipo para sa GAA ng taong 2026,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003185

dinagdagan po natin yan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003186

Nagdagdag po tayo sa Protect Teen under DSWD to protect,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003187

Adolescent Mothers.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003188

Nagbigay din po tayo ng pondo sa ilalim ng OSIIC

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003189

para po sa protection ng youth at yung mga kabataan po against abuses.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003190

So, rest assured naman po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003191

we are making sure po that these programs also get the funding that they need po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003192

Hindi naman po dahil nagkakalon po ng pondo,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003193

itong mga social services natin ay nakakaligtaan na po natin yung ibang mga programs.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003194

na mahahalaga din. So I'm with you po on that in making sure that we are able to fund these programs as well.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003195

Yung dun po sa monitoring, siguro po pagdating po ng iba't-ibang mga ahensya, maaari din po nating talakayin sa kanila yan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003196

Pag na-isa lang po natin yung DSWD, yung DOLE, yung DOH dito po sa plenaryo.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003197

So commitment ko po, maaari po na tutulungan ko po ang ating kasamahan na matanong din po yung mga ahensya patungkol po dun sa monitoring nila ng implementasyon ng Section 19.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003198

Mr. Speaker, para ko sa kaalaman ng ating distinguished sponsor, na alam ko po ay talagang may pagtutok tulad ng kanyang nasabi sa mahalagang programa na ito

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003199

para sa 2027 na General Appropriations Bill, zero ang budget ng ESP.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003200

Enhanced Protecting, zero ang budget ng Project SAFE, zero ang budget para sa Project Aruga.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003201

Yan po yung para sa children with disability.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003202

At nangangailangan at nananawagan sila na yung 25 million pesos na naibigay at nailagak para sa kanilang mga proyekto noong 2026 ay magpatuloy para sa 2027 at kung pwede pa nga ay mataas.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003203

Dahil gayon din kalaki yung pangangailangan sa mga proyekto na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003204

Ngayon naman, aginoong speaker, hayaan nyo naman po ako magtanong tungkol sa pagpapaliwanag ng ating distinguished sponsor tungkol sa House Bill No. 10858 na naglalaman ng ating 2027 General Appropriations Bill.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003205

Kung babasahin po natin ang ating mga...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003206

dahilan, ang paliwanag para sa ating mga budget priorities at direksyon para sa susunod na taon,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003207

napaka-optimistic po ng ating mga nakikita para sa susunod na taon ng ating macroeconomic assumptions.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003208

Halimbawa, para sa fiscal year 2027, ang ating projection para sa inflation rate ay nasa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003209

4% to 5% lamang.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003210

Pagdating naman sa foreign exchange rate, nasa 60 pesos to 60 pesos lamang.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003211

At sa parehong halaga, aginoong speaker, ngayon hong September 2026, ay pareho na tayong lumagpas sa mga projection na ito para sa susunod na taon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003212

Kaya hong katanungan ko ay ano yung mga hakbang?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003213

Para matiyak yung pagkamit.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003214

Halimbawa, yung mga projection na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003215

At paano natin magagawa rin na mapaunlad yung trabaho, yung kabuhayan, yung kalagayan ng ating mga kababayan?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003216

Lalo lalo na sa panahon ngayon na bagsak na bagsak ang piso, pataas ang presyo ng mga biligin, pataas ang presyo ng pagkain.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003217

At ito, ito, ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003218

Lumagpas na naman sa isang daang piso, tada litro, ang presyo ng gasolina.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003219

Ayan po yung mga issue na lubos na nakapagpahirap sa ating mga kababayan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003220

Mr. Speaker, this is my colleague.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003221

So pagdating po doon sa mga macroeconomic assumptions na nabanggit po, halimbawa po inflation rate, foreign exchange rate, unemployment rate,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003222

GDP growth, lahat po ng mga economic assumptions po, ina-update po siya ng DBCC every three months.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003223

So quarterly po yung pag-update noong mga macroeconomic assumptions and targets, base po sa mga nangyayadi.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003224

Halimbawa po kung may pagkakaiba po, halimbawa sa ini-impose na US tariffs, kailangan po i-update yun because that affects the global trade.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003225

Or halimbawa po yung geopolitical conflict po sa Middle East, ina-update din po yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003226

So yun po yung dahilan kung bakit paminsan nagmumukha po na medyo optimistic siya masyado as compared to the current realities kasi i-update pa lang po siya.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003227

In terms po of papaano po natin i-bridge yung gap sa pagitan po noong targets at saka yung actual po na nangyayadi.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003228

Ang ginawa po sa pag-develop po noong budget, sinigurado po na maganda po yung kalidad noong mga spending priorities.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003229

Ibig sabihin po, nag-focus po doon sa mga programa na may mataas na economic multipliers o di kaya mag-generate po ng mas magandang mga trabaho

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003230

or mag-accelerate po ng government expenditures.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003231

And the like.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003232

So ganun po yung ginagawa po ng DBCC family.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003233

Ina-update po yung macroeconomic assumptions natin every three months.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003234

And at the same time po, sinisigurado po na yung mga pinapasok po ng mga activities and projects and programs sa budget ay talagang makakatulong po na mas mapabilis po yung paglago ng ating ekonomiya

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003235

at makakatugon po doon sa pinakailangan ng ating mga kababayan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003236

Nabanggit Mr. Speaker ng ating Distinguished Sponsor yung tungkol sa pandaigdiga na crisis.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003237

Ngunit ang napakahalaga din na silipin natin paano naman yung krisis sa lokal na ekonomiya sa ating bayan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003238

Kumusta ba ang ating agrikultura? Kumusta ba ang ating manupaktura?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003239

At nakita po natin na ang agriculture at manufacturing, parehong bagsak na bagsak dito sa ating bansa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003240

At makikita natin na halos walang nagbago mula 2026 sa kung paano natin tinitignan yung mga programa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003241

Halimbawa, pagdating sa micro-small-medium enterprise development program na nasa 900 million.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003242

Nandiyan din yung industry development program na nasa 900 million noong 2026.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003243

At may konting pagtaas, may konting pagbaba para sa 2027.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003244

Pero wala hong signifikante na pagbabago sa kung paano natin na minamalaki.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003245

Yung pagpapaunlad ng lokal na produksyon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003246

Gayun din ho, pagdating sa lokal na agrikultura, ang matagal na panawagan ng mga magsasaka at mga manginisda para sa production subsidy.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003247

Para matiyak na sa harap ng mga sunod-sunod na malalakas na bagyo, mga habagat na may dalang malakas na pagulan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003248

Sa extreme heat, dulot din ang super-elminyo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003249

Hindi lang mas mainit, kundi mga mas madalas at mas malalakas na mga bagyo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003250

Tulot ng banta ng super-elminyo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003251

Nakita ho natin na hindi po gumalaw yung mga priorities at hindi nakalapat sa pangangailangan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003252

Kung paano ba natin kitiyakin yung pagiging self-reliant ng ating national economy.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003253

Na tayo ho ay matibay, nakakatindig sa sarili nating paa sa panahon na may matinding pandaigdigan na krisis.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003254

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003255

So pagdating po sa agrikultura, kung titignan po natin, nandiyan pa rin po yung Rice Competitiveness Enhancement Fund.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003256

May 30 billion pesos pa rin po doon para po makatulong sa makinarya, binhi, training at pautang para po sa ating mga magsasaka.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003257

We recognize the point of our distinguished colleague na kung titignan po natin,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003258

NEP to NEP or GAAT to NEP yung pondo po ng agricultural sector bumaba.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003259

From GAAT to NEP po bumaba.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003260

Kasi po nung BARC po na isinagawa natin dito sa Kamara noong nakaraang taon, malaki po kasi yung mga naidagdag natin para po sa agrikultura.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003261

Nakapaglagay po tayo para sa Presidential Assistance.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003262

Farmers and Fisher Folk, nakapaglagay po tayo para sa Farm to Market Road, mga deep water ports, mga irrigation, solar irrigation pumps and the like.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003263

So sa atin pong parte, sa parte po ng Committee on Appropriations at sa atin po dito sa Kamara,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003264

iisa po yung ating paninindigan na gusto po talaga nating matulungan yung sektor ng agrikultura, gusto po nating matulungan ng ating mga magsasaka at manging isda.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003265

So on our part po, we will endeavor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003266

In the next weeks that we are deliberating on the budget po at dinideliberate din po natin yung mga amyenda na gusto po nating maipasok na sana po magawa din natin yung nagawa natin noong nakaraang taon na madagdagan po natin yung mga pangangailangan na pondo ng ating agricultural sector.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003267

Lalo na po merong banta ng El Nino na papadating.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003268

So nabanggit din po yan ng DA, hingi po sana sa additional funding para sa...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003269

Utilizer assistance, mga subsidies para po sa ating mga magsasaka.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003270

So ang aking assurance ay sa mga dadating na linggo po, sisiguraduhin po din natin na mabibigyan natin ng prioridad yung mga pangangailangan ng agriculture sector para po mapaigting yung lokal na production at saka masecure po yung ating food security.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003271

So seryoso tayo, ginaong speaker sa pagbibigay ng prioridad sa lokal na agrikultura at industrial.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003272

So sa pagbibigay ng prioridad sa lokal na agrikultura at industrial, makakakita talaga tayo ng signifikante na pagbabago sa kung paano din nilalaanan ng kinakailangan pondo ang ating mga agencies na may kinalaman sa mga ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003273

Hindi natin kailangan ngayon ng bariya-bariya lang na pagtataas o bariya-bariyang pagbabago.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003274

Kundi mas mataas, substantial, ayon sa pangangailangan para mapalakas ang ating agrikultura at industriyang Pilipino.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003275

Ngayon naman may kinalaman din dito, ginaong speaker, section 34 ng ating...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003276

General Provisions ang tungkol sa Harmonized National Research and Development Agenda.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003277

Maari mo bang magulat ang ating distinguished sponsor sa kung nasusunod ba talaga yung pambansa na koordinado na nagagamit natin yung bunga ng mga pananaliksik ng ating mga government research institutions

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003278

sa iba't ibang mga services, needs, programs.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003279

ng iba't ibang national government agencies sa ating bansa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003280

Mr. Speaker, kasama din dito, hindi lang po ang ating mga national government agencies,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003281

kabilang din ang local government units, ang academe, ang industry, ang communities.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003282

Kung paano ba titiyakin na yung...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003283

mga binawa, pinag-isipan, mga likha ng ating mga siyentista, ng ating mga manggagawa sa agham at teknolohiya ay lubos na napapakinabangan ng mamamayang Pilipino.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003284

Yan ho ay nakalagay sa ating general provisions na mahalaga para wala hong masasayang na resources pagdating sa research and development.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003286

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, my apologies po. The question po is how do we monitor po, di ba?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003287

I'll defer po to DBM.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003292

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, ito pong Section 34, yung Harmonized National Research and Development Agenda, the agency principally tasked to manage this government research and development agenda

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003293

One of the development agenda programs would be DOST. Sa kasalukuyin po, wala pong visibility yung DBM doon po sa actual na implementasyon nito. So kung papayagan po tayo na ating distinguished colleague, we can pose the same question to DOST when they're here for their plenary deliberations.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003294

Mr. Speaker, nagsumite ba ng progress report ang DOST tungkol dito sa ating House Committee on Appropriations?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003295

Nakalagay rin po kasi sa DOST.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003296

Sa Section 34 na dapat sila ay dalga bibigay ng kopya ng kanilang progress report. Hindi lang po sa House Committee on Appropriations pero sa, ganyan din po sa Senado, sa iba't ibang mahalaga po na officials na may kinalaman sa pagpapatupad ng General Appropriations Act.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003297

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, given that the Committee on Appropriations is one of the recipients,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003298

supposedly, of the report, we are doing a quick check lang po. Mr. Speaker, if we could revert back to our distinguished colleague, if we could move to a different question and then give us a few minutes lang po. We're checking with our staff in the Committee on Appropriations kung nagsumite na po sila.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003299

Mr. Speaker, natanong ko ito dahil ang DOST nakapag-develop ng isang local sexual assault investigation team.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003300

At nabalita nila sa atin dito sa Congress na namumblema sila, na meron silang napaunlad, meron silang produkto ng ating agham at teknoloy.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003301

na dito mismo sa ating bansa na paunlad.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003302

Ngunit ang problema, hindi naman ito ang unang prioridad pagdating sa procurement.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003303

Halimbawa, ng mga Women and Children Protection Unit sa ating mga ospital

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003304

para makatulong sa timely collection ng forensic evidence na may kinalaman sa sexual assault cases

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003305

at iba't iba pang kaso ng gender-based violence na makangailangan ng ganitong tipo ng kit.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003306

Namumblema po tayo na, kumbaga yung tawag po dyan ng mga Gen Z Millennials,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003307

parang walang GC, parang hindi nag-uusap.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003308

Bagamat may ganitong napakahalagang seksyon, pero kanya-kanya po yung trabaho pagdating sa mga serbisyo at plataporma.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003309

Nagtanong din po tayo sa harap halimbawa ng DICT.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003310

Yung ginagamit ba nila ng mga software, programs, online, learning platforms na binabayaran natin ng mga subscription,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003311

license renewal, yan ba ay gawa, na-develop ng mga Pilipino?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003312

Kasi napakarami din po nating mga profesional, mga talento, siyentista, engineer, na eksperto sa development ng ganito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003313

Ngunit, paano ba natin natitiyak?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003314

Kaya yung kanila hong mga outputs ay nagagamit mismo din ng ating pamahalaan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003315

Kaya ho, aabangan natin yung submission ng ating committee pagdating sa napakahalagang agenda na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003316

Ngayon naman, pagdating ho sa Section 35 na bilang panghuli sa Programs and Projects Related to Gender and Development.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003317

Nagsumiti ho sa amin ang DBM.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003318

Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003319

Ang report na tungkol sa utilization ng Gender and Development Fund.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003320

Or, hindi pala fund, kasi dapat po integrated yan sa iba't-ibang mga programs, projects, at activities ng ating NGAs.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003321

Pero napansin ho namin na meron ding hindi nagpasa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003322

Nakasalukuyan ho ba na mga guidelines ng DBM?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003323

Meron ho ba tayong...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003324

ang ginagawa para itong mga hindi nagpapasa ng kanilang mga ulat,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003325

kung paano nila ginagamit yung at least 5% ng kanilang funding para sa Gender and Development,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003326

ay hindi lang ho nasasabikan, kundi napapaalalahanan at may pananagutan pagdating sa paggamit ng kanilang GAD budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003327

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003328

I think po dito, in terms of the monitoring, Commission on Audit po, yung parte po ng audit reports nila,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003329

yung patungkol po sa Gender and Development program.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003330

So, halimbawa po po may isang ahensya po na bumaba doon po sa 5% na requirement,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003331

kuwa po yung nagko-call out.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003332

Parte po yun ng kanilang audit findings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003333

Maraming salamat, Ginong Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003334

At hindi lang po ito tungkol sa pag-comply doon sa at least 5%.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003335

Pero pagkikiyak na talagang nagamit para sa layunin na i-integrate,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003336

tunay na i-mainstream yung Gender and Development sa lahat ng mga programa, proyekto at aktividad,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003337

yan ho ang ating bubusisiin pa sa mga susunod na deliberasyon dito sa plenaryo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003338

Maraming salamat, Ginong Speaker. Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003339

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much to our Distinguished Colleague.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-003340

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-003342

Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-003343

Mr. Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor, I move to recognize the Honorable Presley C. De Jesus of PHILRECA Party-list.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-003344

The Honorable Presley De Jesus of PHILRECA Party-list is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003345

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003346

My question, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003347

is it correct that the government expected to borrow for fiscal year 2027

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003348

P3.3 trillion to finance the expected fiscal deficit for 2027?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003349

Is that the amount correct? P3.3 trillion?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003350

Mr. Speaker, yes, I can confirm that. Total gross borrowing for 2027 is P3.3 trillion.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003351

So that P3.3 trillion does include the principal and interest. Is that correct?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003352

That is correct, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003353

So for 2027, magkano po yung forecast natin na income natin?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003354

Coming from BIR, Bureau of Customs, and I guess other income.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003355

P3.3 trillion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003356

Mr. Speaker, for 2020,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003357

sorry, for 2027, as indicated in the BASF po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003358

total projected revenues is at P5.2 trillion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003359

Of that po, P4.85 trillion will be tax revenues,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003360

and P354 billion will be non-tax revenues po.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003361

So what's this P4.8 trillion?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003362

Ano?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003363

Ano yung breakdown?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003364

Can you repeat the breakdown, please?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003365

For, for, ano po, out of the P5.2 trillion total projected revenues,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003366

P4.85 trillion of that are projected to be tax revenues.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003367

From BIR.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003368

Sorry po.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003369

From BIR.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003370

Ito po yung breakdown.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003371

Out of the P4.85 trillion, for BIR po, BIR is projected to generate P3.74,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003372

trillion pesos.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003373

The Bureau of Customs expected to generate P1.07 trillion pesos.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003374

And other offices po, at P40 billion pesos.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003375

P14 billion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003376

P40 billion.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003377

P40 billion, that's other.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003378

Other offices po.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003379

So do you know what's the breakdown of the other income?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003380

Is that the sales from privatization?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003381

Yeah.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003382

Ang sigurado ko po yung sa privatization,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003383

P100 billion, P101 billion pesos po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003384

Pero ano po yun eh.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003385

You said?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003386

Non-tax po yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003387

Hindi po siya parte ng tax revenues.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003388

So, kukulitin po natin, out of the P5.2 trillion in total revenues,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003389

P4.85 trillion po yung tax revenues.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003390

Tapos yun po yung binanggit ko na breakdown kanina ng BIR, BOC, and other offices.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003391

And then, P300 billion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003392

P354 billion po ang non-tax revenues.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003393

Doon po nakapasok yung privatization.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003394

So, the P3.3 trillion, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003395

So, out of that, the P2.4 trillion from domestic sources through treasury bills, ba?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003396

Yung P2.4 billion.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003397

The P3.3 total.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003398

Nasaan si Ma'am Sharon?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003399

Ma'am Sharon?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003402

Kinukuha lang po natin mula po sa DOF,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003403

yung po breakdown ng by domestic versus foreign sources and by type po.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003404

Yeah, Mr. Speaker, kasi kailangang maintindihan natin mga kababayan kung bakit.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003405

Paano yung breakdown ng 3.3?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003406

Domestic?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003407

saka externally

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003408

through programs.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003409

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003410

so with regard to the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003411

total borrowings po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003412

gross external

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003413

borrowings account for

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003414

914 billion

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003415

914

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003416

actually

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003417

915 billion pesos po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003418

Gross domestic borrowings

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003419

account for 2.39

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003420

trillion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003421

Kung gusto po ba natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003422

ang breakdown ng

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003423

domestic borrowings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003424

Andun po yung T-bills and fixed rate.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003425

Yes, please.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003426

Sa ilalim po noong gross domestic borrowings

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003427

out of the 2.39

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003428

trillion,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003429

60 billion of that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003430

are treasury bills.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003431

And then the rest po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003432

the remaining 2.33

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003433

trillion are fixed rate treasury

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003434

bonds.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003435

Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003436

Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003437

Moving forward,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003438

just to continue from the line of

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003439

questioning of Representatives

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003440

Tinio and Elago. Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003441

Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003442

when all debt

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003443

matures, the government

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003444

may need to borrow again

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003445

to replace it.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003446

The problem is that some of

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003447

the debt being refinanced

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003448

was contracted

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003449

during pandemic.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003450

When interest rates were

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003451

relatively low,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003453

if the new loans carry higher

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003454

interest rate, the government will

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003455

have to pay more to service

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003456

the same debts. Is this

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003457

observation accurate?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003458

Because remember, during pandemic, there's

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003459

no businesses at all. So talaga,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003460

walang umuutang, walang

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003461

business at all, kaya mababa

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003462

ang rate natin. And ngayon,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003463

because the pandemic

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003464

problem resurfaced

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003465

ngayon, binabayaran natin ngayon

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003466

with different

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003467

interest rate. So,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003468

paano maapektuhan yun sa atin ngayon ito?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003469

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003470

distinguished colleague, to be able

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003471

to cushion

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003472

any

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003473

exposure

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003474

to external shocks, 70%

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003475

po of our

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003476

borrowings are

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003477

domestic. So, that's the reason

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003478

po why kahit

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003479

paano po na babawasan po yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003480

exposure natin sa foreign shocks.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003481

And within the domestic borrowings

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003482

po, we

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003483

recognize the point of our distinguished

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003484

colleague that the rates as of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003485

now are elevated as compared to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003486

during the time of the pandemic

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003487

when these loans were

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003488

secured. But the way po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003489

that we are also reducing

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003490

our exposure is that 90% of our gross domestic borrowings are fixed rate treasury bonds. So, at least po, hindi po tayo dumidepende sa prevailing market interest rates.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003491

So, at least medyo nagbe-blend siya because of the domestic borrowings.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Dalawa po. We rely mostly on domestic borrowings and within our domestic borrowings, 90% of those are fixed rate treasury bonds.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Fixed rate, that's the most important thing.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Okay. So, am I correct

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in stating that this situation

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means that a larger portion

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of government spending will be

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tied up in debt payments in

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2027? Debt service

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projected to account for

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39.2% of total

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government expenditures,

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an increase of 7.6%

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points from the previous

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year. Is this correct?

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Mr. Speaker,

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if we may clarify, is it debt servicing

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as a percentage of

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the budget or as a percentage of GDP po?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Yung percentage po.

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Percentage of GDP.

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For 2027 po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Mr. Speaker, based on the data from the DOF for 2027 po, if we look at interest

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payments as a percentage of

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GDP, the figure that we have

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po is 3.4%.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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My point is,

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how long the Filipino taxpayers

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expect

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to pay these debts?

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This portion of the budget represents

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money that have been allocated

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for projects that can actually

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be felt and experienced

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by Filipinos. Because

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continued budget deficits

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that will be financed

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by additional borrowings

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will continue to experience

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these increases annually,

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perpetually, until

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we reach a point that maybe half of

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our budget goes to debt servicing.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003536

Ito na po yung nakikita

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asr-003537

ang kinakatakutan po natin, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Because, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Distinguished Sponsor, every year,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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I'm not blaming any

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administration, kasi ito na talaga eh.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003542

Doon na yung papunta.

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So, dating ba tayo,

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Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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na dating ba tayo na pano na

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asr-003546

kalahatin ng ating budget

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asr-003547

will be

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allocated for debt servicing

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asr-003549

principal interest. Dating ba tayo

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003550

sa ganung oras? Kasi right now, it's

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asr-003551

one-third. Am I right? Almost one-third.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003552

third of our total

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003553

budget, pambahid lang natin

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003554

ng interest

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asr-003555

at principal. Ang kinakatukot

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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ng ko po rito, baka dumating araw,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003557

50%

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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pambahid natin. Ano pa

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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mangyayari sa ating mga social

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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services natin?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Sa kasalukuyin po, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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just to clarify po, interest

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payments as a percentage

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of the budget is at 15%

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at the moment.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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So ngayon po,

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ang pinitignan po, ang goal din po

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ng ating economic managers

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is to do fiscal consolidation.

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So the goal po is to narrow

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the deficit as we go along.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Ang target po

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is by

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2027

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from 5.4%

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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sorry, from a 5.4

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ratio in

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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2026, bababa po ng

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5.1 ng

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2027 and by 2030 po,

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hopefully, 3.5%.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Yung debt to GDP ratio

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po natin. So

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ngayon po, I recognize

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the point po of our distinguished

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colleague that this is also eating up

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our fiscal space,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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the debt servicing, the interest

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asr-003589

payments. As mentioned earlier

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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po, in 2028,

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ang target po kasi

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asr-003592

is the same level of 7.2

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asr-003593

trillion pesos in terms of the budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003594

So given that we have higher interest

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003595

payments po, it will

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eat up our fiscal space.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003597

Pero rest assured po,

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we will make sure in the

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asr-003599

way that we craft the budget for

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asr-003600

2027, hindi po

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bababa

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yung ating

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budget para sa social

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services at iba pang mga

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critical na mga proyekto at programa

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dahil po sa interest

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asr-003607

payments at sa debt servicing. So we will

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make sure po that we safeguard

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the budget for

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those critical

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asr-003611

programs.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Mr. Sponsor, yun lang naman kailangan natin, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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We need to safeguard. Kasi tayang.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Just imagine, yung ordinaryong

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pamilya, kumikita lang

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asr-003616

ng 10,000, nakakapag-save sila.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003617

Tayo, we need to

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borrow money para lang

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003619

we know, we understand, we have to

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asr-003620

pump up the economy. Kailangan natin

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niya para umiikot ang

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asr-003622

economy natin.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003623

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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asr-003624

fiscal year 2027 budget

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claims to pursue

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fiscal consolidation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Consolidation. But if consolidation

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is proceeding more slowly

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asr-003629

than originally intended

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asr-003630

and debt to GDP

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asr-003631

is projected to rise

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asr-003632

from 66%

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asr-003633

in 2026

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to 72.9%

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by 2030,

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can we really say that the current

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asr-003637

fiscal path is sufficient

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asr-003638

to stabilize our debt?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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we recognize the

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point po and we agree that given

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the macroeconomic

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situation, the geopolitical

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asr-003645

political conflict,

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asr-003646

external trade shocks

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asr-003647

and the like, mas bumagal po

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than projected.

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asr-003649

Yung

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asr-003650

pagbaba

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asr-003651

noong debt to GDP ratio natin.

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asr-003652

However, if we look

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at the projections po, between

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asr-003654

2026 and 2030,

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asr-003655

the goal is to

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reduce the debt

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asr-003657

to GDP ratio from

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asr-003658

58.6 in 2026

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asr-003659

to 56.1 in 2030.

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asr-003660

So even po, even if the fiscal

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consolidation slowed down,

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asr-003662

the rate of fiscal consolidation

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asr-003663

slowed down, the goal po is by

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asr-003664

2030, we'll be able to reduce

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asr-003665

debt to GDP ratio by

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asr-003666

at least 2.5%.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003667

Thank you.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003668

While there is no immediate liquidity

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asr-003669

crisis, medium term

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asr-003670

fiscal risks are increasing.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003671

So the issue is not whether we are

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in a debt crisis today,

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but whether we are moving forward

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asr-003674

toward a sustainable debt

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asr-003675

trajectory.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003676

This is correct.

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Mr. Speaker, we can say

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that yes, it is sustainable

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asr-003679

because the benchmark for

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asr-003680

general government debt is at 70%.

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asr-003681

And right now, we are at 58.6%.

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asr-003682

And targeting to go down

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asr-003683

to 56.1% by 2030.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003684

Can you also confirm the statement

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asr-003685

that weaker economic

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asr-003686

growth presents

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asr-003687

the greatest risk to the country's

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asr-003688

debt trajectory?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003689

Would it therefore be

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asr-003690

counterproductive to pursue

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asr-003691

fiscal consolidation

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003692

by indiscriminate

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003693

cutting productive

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003694

public spending?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003695

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003696

the economic managers

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asr-003697

of the government is focusing

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asr-003698

on quality spending.

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asr-003699

So we're focusing on projects

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with high economic

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asr-003701

multipliers.

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asr-003702

So even though we are

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asr-003703

technically cutting down on

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asr-003704

spending, we are,

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asr-003705

making sure that those

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asr-003706

expenditure items are of high quality

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asr-003707

and have high economic multipliers.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003708

Thank you,

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asr-003709

Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003710

Again, my follow-up question.

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asr-003711

If expenditure cuts

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cannot be the sole answer,

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asr-003713

what then should be the way forward

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asr-003714

for the fiscal year 2027 budget?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003715

Mr. Speaker, for 2027,

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asr-003716

it is still a budget that is a product

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asr-003717

of fiscal consolidation.

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asr-003718

The goal is to focus,

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asr-003719

as I mentioned, on quality spending

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asr-003720

in order to accelerate growth.

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asr-003721

And for it to facilitate

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asr-003722

economic recovery,

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asr-003723

given the previous shocks

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asr-003724

that were experienced by our economy

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asr-003725

in the past

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asr-003726

quarters.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003727

Okay, how about those

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asr-003728

tax revenue natin?

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asr-003729

Will they have to streamline it?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003730

Kasi meraming inefficient tax

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003731

expenditures tayo eh. Is it

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asr-003732

possible na isama

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003733

natin sila yung revenue

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003734

mobilization natin para

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asr-003735

maging mas effective?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003736

At magiging ano tayo,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003737

kumbaga magiging competitive tayo?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003738

Kasi right now,

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asr-003739

yung deficiency natin masyado na malaki.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003740

Remember, almost 5 trillion

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asr-003741

compared to 7.2 trillion.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003742

So medyo malaki ang ating

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003743

deficit ngayon.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003744

Kung gaganda ang ating collection,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003745

at least, no,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003746

1 trillion a year o 1.5 trillion

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003747

na borrowings natin,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003748

deficit siguro ay maganda.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003749

So,

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asr-003750

is there any

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asr-003751

future actions

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003752

na pabain natin ng ating

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003753

deficit by streamlining

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003754

yung ating mga collection?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003756

Mister Speaker,

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asr-003757

distinguished colleague,

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asr-003758

if we compare our revenue effort

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asr-003759

in terms of

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asr-003760

benchmarking it with

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asr-003761

peer countries,

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asr-003762

currently at 16.6 percent in the first half of 2026 and we are doing better than several of our

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asr-003763

peer countries for example malaysia is at 15.7 percent thailand at 15.6 percent in indonesia at

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asr-003764

11.5 percent so in terms of revenue effort our our country is doing well um and the dof is saying

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asr-003765

that they are also implementing um programs uh uh in order to uh optimize the non-tax revenues

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003766

so um they are trying to maximize our revenues sure we are at par with our neighboring countries

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003767

um actually we're doing even better um than than several of our peer countries although

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003768

singapore and vietnam are ahead in terms of our revenue efforts but we're we're doing well

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003769

compared to our peer countries thank you speaker thank you uh uh sponsor my next question

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003770

the fiscal year 2027 this is about social services budget increases overall by six percent yet the

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003771

social services sector climbs by 5.5 or 143.7 billion the reductions include health education

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asr-003772

and manpower development and

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003773

social security welfare and employment meanwhile economic services increases by 17.8 percent

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003774

is this figure correct

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003775

Yes, Mr. Speaker, if we compare GAA to NEP, opo, bumaba po yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003776

specifically because of the capital outlay components po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003777

Malaki po kasi yung ating naibigay sa parte po ng Kamara

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003778

during the BARC deliberations. But based on the utilization rates po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003779

for example, for BEF, for HFEP, and for farm-to-market roads,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003780

medyo mababa po yung utilization rate. So on the part of the executive,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003781

binaba po ulit nila, back to previous NEP levels as compared to GAA.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003782

just for the allocation is that the justification

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003783

just for the allocation? Is that the justification natin, yan ba iyon?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003784

Yes, Mr. Speaker. Sa parte po ng executive, iyon po yung justification nila. But again, on the part of the House,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003785

we will endeavor to recalibrate the funding levels for these

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asr-003786

critical programs.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003787

About the privatization proceeds,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003789

Distinguished Sponsor, the fiscal year 2027 revenue program

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003790

includes approximately

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003791

binanggit mo kanina,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003792

P101.5 billion in privatization proceeds.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003793

Yet, this target was originally contemplated for an earlier budget and has already been deferred twice.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003794

If our information is accurate, tama mo ba ito?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003795

The other income natin, privatization?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003796

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, actually po, this representation actually asked about that during the DBCC hearing

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003797

because the 101 billion is a lot higher than their previous projections in terms of the privatization revenues.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003798

Dati po, the highest was I think at 35 billion and for 2027, they projected at 101 billion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003799

So, ang sagot po ni SECDEC nung tinanong ko po yun,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003800

they have several privatization projects in the pipeline that would, we'll give the example.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003801

We can mention several po of these privatization projects in the pipeline.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003802

So there's the Mile Long asset, FTI, SLEX shares, and Semirara shares.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003804

Totaling 60 billion among others.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003805

So, yun po yung projected nila na privatization revenues for 2027.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003806

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003807

Ultimately, the challenge is not simply to reduce the deficit or keep that below a particular numerical threshold.

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asr-003808

It is to place our debt on a path toward stabilization and eventual decline without sacrificing

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003812

the economic growth that makes that objective possible. So the goal is not simply to spend less today, but to build a stronger economy that can generate more revenues.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003813

In crafting that 2027 budget, we must make targeted investment in the foundations of economic growth, reliable and affordable energy, better infrastructure, human capital education, support for productive industries, MSMEs, faster and more predictable government processes,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003814

and an environment that attracts both domestic and international demand.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003815

And of course, this is on top of efforts improving the efficiency of public spending, so that every peso of government expenditure contributes as much as possible productivity and job creation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003816

That is the balance we should pursue as we move forward with this debate.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003817

Those are all my questions, Mr. Speaker and Madam Sponsor. Thank you for the opportunity.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003818

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003819

Mr. Speaker, thank you very much to our distinguished colleague, the Honorable Presley De Jesus.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-003820

Thank you, the Honorable De Jesus. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-003821

Mr. Speaker, next to interpellate, I move to recognize the Honorable Sergio Dagooc of APEC Party-list.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-003822

The Honorable Sergio Dagooc of APEC Party-list is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003823

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Majority Leader.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003824

Ang paborito bang Sir ay pwedeng matanong ng ilang katanungan?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003825

Hindi kita pahirapan kasi...

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003826

Buti lang nakaupo si Sir, no?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003827

Yes, of course, Mr. Speaker. I would be honored to field questions from the Honorable Sergio Dagooc.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003828

The distinguished sponsor is aware of what sector I am representing.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003829

So, hindi ko na po ulitin yung mga natanong na kanina kung saan nang gagaling yung ating mga revenue na ipupundo dito kasama na ako yung mga utang.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003830

For the interest of the public,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003831

kailangan kasi very important yung issue ng kuryente.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003832

Kaya kailangan kong mag-Tagalog kahit hirap ako dahil bisaya ako.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003833

So, during the budget briefing,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003834

inami naman po ng DipDip mismo,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003835

napakahalaga po ng kuryente sa ating pambansang ekonomiya.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003836

So, ngayon,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003837

pinanggalingan po ng ating revenue,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003838

which includes privatization.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003839

Tama po ba, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003840

Tama po yun, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003841

There's a projected privatization revenue of P101 billion for 2027.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003842

So, doon po ako mag-focus.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003843

Yan po yung unang issue ko.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003844

Kasama po ba,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003845

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003846

Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003847

yung privatization natin sa

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003848

yung nalalabi pang mga asit,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003849

lalong-lalo na ikaw, no?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003850

From Sultan Kudarat, yung ano mo.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003851

So, yung Agus and Pulangi po,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003852

na natitirang energy asit ng ating pamahalaan,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003853

ay ang pagkakaalam ko,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003854

inumpisahan na po nating,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003855

tumanggap ng unsolicited proposal.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003856

Tama po ba, Mr. Speaker?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003857

Although, alam ko,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003858

itatanong ko din to sa PISAM,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003859

pero sa general provision kasi kasama yung privatization.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003860

Mr. Speaker, yes, we can confirm.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003861

Yung nabanggit po na project na ating distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003862

meron pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-003863

kumukuha po ng unsolicited proposals sa kasinukuyan.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003864

Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003865

hindi po ba natalakay sa LIDAC?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003866

Although, baka mag-poll na ito sa tanong ko sa DIPDIB,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003867

pero kasama kasi siya sa revenue na pinanggalingan.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003868

So, napakahalaga po,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003869

ng mga asset na 'yan. At sa LEDAC dapat napag-usapan ang nangyari. Bakit ganito kataas ang ating kuryente? At bakit nagmamakaawa tayo sa private sector kung kailan sila magtayo ng planta, saan nila itayo, at magkano yung presyo, kasi deregulated siya? So ito na lang yung natitira nating kapiranggot na asset within our control,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003870

revenue generating,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003872

instead na in relisyon sa mga katanungan kanina ng aking mga kasamahan,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003873

namumutang tayo ng trilyon.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003874

Tinanong ng mga kasamahan ko,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003875

saan ba napunta?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003876

Anong pakinabang ng mga taxpayers na nagbabayad ng mga otang na yon?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003877

Dito, tumanggap tayo ng unsolicited proposal

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003878

para i-rehabilitate ang kaisa-isang jewel ng Mindanao,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003879

Agos Anpulangi,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003880

na humihila pababa sa presyo ng kurinti sa Mindanao

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003881

to be competitive from Luzon and Visayas,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003882

na ngayon ay nagiging 19 pesos na,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003883

tas ibinta pa natin.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003884

So, saan ba nanggaling yung hugot ng ating economic managers sa LIDAC?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003885

Bakit pinayaga nila at hindi sila nakapag-advise

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003886

na huwag nang isama yung mga asit na revenue generating

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003887

at mga mga businessbook na ito?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003888

Instead, mangutang tayo. Napakaliit, no? Mangutang tayo ng trilyon; ang kinakailangan sa Agus and Pulangi, bilyon lang na rehabilitation. After ma-rehabilitate, we solve the power [unclear], we reduce the cost of electricity, pati na yung Visayas kasi nag-i-import na si Mindanao ngayon ng

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003889

kuryente sa Visayas with the interconnection of Visayas and Mindanao.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003890

Tapos, nakinabang pa tayo sa employment.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003894

isang asit lang ang tinutukoy ko.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003895

Ah, kandi

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003896

economic managers

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003897

naman, pansinin naman ninyo

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003898

yung mga pagagandang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003899

rekomendasyon

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003900

galing sa mga membro ng

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003901

kongreso, lalong-lalong

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003902

na po sa kinatawang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003903

ito, na talagang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003904

alam ko kung saan po punta.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003905

Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003906

Mr. Speaker, sana ay

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003907

i-evaluate

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003908

ng ating lidak,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003909

lalong-lalo na sa dip-dip

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003910

yung mga nangyari

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003911

sa planta

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003912

na na-privatize

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003913

natin. Deutermal natin

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003914

sa liti, magkano na

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003915

ang presyo ngayon

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003916

ng kurinte sa liti?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003917

25 pesos may deutermal?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003918

18 pesos may deutermal?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003919

Magkano na

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003920

nung hindi pa

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003921

nabinta yan?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003922

Only

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003923

4 pesos.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003924

Yung Agus

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003925

at Pulangi ngayon sa Mindanao,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003926

2 pesos ang 85.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003927

Pag na-privatize na naman yan,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003928

kahit

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003929

yung kanyang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003930

rehabilitation lang, times

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003931

3 na naman yan. Kaliraya,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003932

evaluate

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003933

kung anong nangyayari

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003934

after naibinta natin yung kaliraya,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003935

magkano lang?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003936

40 billion yata,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003937

39 billion.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003938

Pero ang balik sa atin,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003939

wala na sa atin yung control.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003940

Hindi na nga natin masilip kung totoo

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003941

bang nasira yung mga planta

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003942

dahil privately owned na.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003943

So, I hope, no?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003944

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003945

Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003946

ako naman po ay papayag

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003947

na hindi na ninyo

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003948

sagutin.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003949

Ang gusto ko lang marinig

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003950

sa ating mga economic manager,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003951

can you take a look

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003952

of what I am recommending?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003953

Kindly review

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003954

yung presyo ng mga

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003955

planta na tinutukoy ko

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003956

as some of the examples,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003957

magkano yung

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003958

rate niya,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003959

energy, yung generation

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003960

cost bago na i-privatize,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003961

magkano na ngayon

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003962

na na-privatize na?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003963

Then, kindly take a look

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003964

magkano yung

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003965

ginastos niya?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003966

Ginastos ni private

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003967

ticker

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003968

at i-add mo yung

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003969

binayad niya sa goberno

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003970

to acquire

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003971

the facility

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003972

to acquire the asset

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003973

of napokor

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003974

pag i-add mo yan

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003975

ilang buwan lang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003976

or taon niya mababawi.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003977

Kaysa tayo ang nangutang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003978

na gastusan yung planta na yan

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003979

na marihab,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003980

we own the power plant

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003981

baka ang isasagot

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003982

na naman ninyo

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003983

nasa EPIRA kasi naibenta.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003984

Why did you not recommend

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003985

na we will

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003986

we will

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003987

amend Section 47 of EPIRA

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003988

na hindi naibinta

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003989

yung mga planta na yan?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003990

Na mga planta na yan na hindi pa

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003991

na-dispose should be excluded

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003992

from privatization

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003993

kasi may experience na tayo doon sa naunang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003994

nabinta na nagtagal

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003995

times 2,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003996

nag times 3

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003997

yung balik sa atin.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003998

Kandi economic managers

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003999

assured this representation

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004000

that you will look into that.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004002

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004003

distinguished colleague

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004004

I was talking po to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004005

Secretary Balisacan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004006

So the evaluation po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004007

with regard to privatization initiatives

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004008

is handled by the ICC

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004009

and the membership of the ICC

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004010

is mostly po yung economic managers

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004011

din naman po natin.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004012

So I spoke to them po and they commit po that whichever projects po yung nabanggit na ating distinguished colleague po for evaluation, they will take a look at it po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004013

So not just a value for money analysis on the part of the government, but also a bigger financial analysis.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004014

Medyo sa totoo po nakakabahala po yung binanggit na ating distinguished colleague na may mga pagkakataon po na pagkatapos i-privatize yung isang power plant, mas tumataas yung power rate.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004015

So ang naapektuhan po yung ating mga consumers.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004016

So if we may request po our distinguished colleague for a list of the particular projects that you would like for the ICC to look into for evaluation,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004017

magiging masaya po yung ICC na test.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004018

Tignan po yung mga proyekto na babanggitin.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004019

So we'll wait for the list po.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004020

Binanggit ko na po, ang natitira na lang natin ngayon ay Agus and Pulangi.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004021

Ang tinutukoy ko po, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, na i-review yung na-privatize na magkano yung natanggap natin acquisition cost,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004022

magkano yung ginastos lang nila na na-rehabilitate din yung binta nila ngayon per kilowatt hour,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004023

pakikita.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004024

Pakikita ninyo, napakabilis nilang mabawi yun.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004025

What if tayo na lang ang nangutang, tayo na lang ang nag-rehab,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004026

kontrolado pa natin yung presyo, hindi masasaktan yung ating mga taong bayan.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004027

Yan yung punto na pinaparating ko dito, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004028

Hindi po yung ilang planta lang, kundi lahat po ng planta na ibinta natin, sure,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004029

times to ang nagiging presyo na niya under the hands of the private sector.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004030

If we may, Mr. Speaker, our distinguished colleague, if we can also get the list of even those that have been privatized previously na po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004031

para po ma-evaluate din po ng ating economic managers.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004032

Yung termal natin sa liti, yung latest, at saka yung kaliraya natin, yan yung mga latest.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004033

Kasi tinitimula.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004034

Tingnan ko yung presyo, umiiyak yung mga taga-liti natin.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004035

Ayaw ko mangyari yung loha ng taga-liti na mangyari sa magiging loha ng Mindanao.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004036

Iba po ang kultura sa Mindanao, lalong-lalo na sa Agos.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004037

Iba po yung kultura ng liti.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004038

Alam na siguro ng distinguished sponsor, yung punto na gusto kong iparating.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004039

Kung magkaroon ng privatization, kahit lang

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004040

kung sa rehabilitasyon at control ang operasyon ng Agos,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004041

siguro, hindi matindi yung issue sa Pulangi, nasa bukid nun yun.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004042

Pero I don't know pagdating sa Agos, I don't know.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004043

Kasi magkaiba talaga.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004044

So, ang susunod ko pong katanungan, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004045

ito po punta sa ating 2027 budget.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004046

Balikan ko po sandali yung 2026.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004047

Tinalakay na natin yung 2027, pero kaya po ba nating punduhan yung 2026 natin na budget?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004048

Yung ga-an natin sa 2026, kaya po ba nating punduhan lahat yun?

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004049

So, ang susunod ko pong katanungan, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004050

What I'm asking distinguished sponsor, Mr. Speaker, is that

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004051

before we discuss the current budget intended for 2027,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004052

has the government the fiscal capacity to fully fund our 2026 general appropriations act?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004053

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004055

With us, our National Treasurer, sorry to quote our National Treasurer, but she gives the assurance that we will be able to fund our 2026 budget.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004056

Okay, maganda naman pong ganoon pala, kaya naman pala natin.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004057

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, nakalimutan ko pa po yung isang nakapublish na yung Diliman property ng Napokor.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004058

Ang hindi ko rin maintindihan dyan, bakit ibinta natin, nandyan yung Napokor, nandyan nakaopisina yung Transco, ang ginawa, pinalipat si Napokor, nagririnta na lang ng 3.5 million a month.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004059

Pero mayroon naman.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004060

silang opisina. So siguro isama na rin pong tingnan yan ng mga economic

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004061

managers natin. Although hindi po siya ganun kabigat doon sa pag-privatize

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004062

ng isang planta. Kasi yung planta talaga nag-degenerate ka agad ng income

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004063

yun. Tapos nag-contribute pa na mapababa yung cost of electricity natin.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004064

Pero isama rin 'yan sa privatization kasi naalala ko kasama yung

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004065

diliman property ng napokor. So for my next point, Mr. Speaker, since you

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004066

categorically answer na kaya naman po nating punduhan yung 2026

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004067

budget natin or yung ga-a, in 2027, ito po ay people-centered.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004068

Sabi nga ni Secretary Kim ng DBM, ang meaning nito: Dapat ang Budget Makatao.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004069

So tama naman po yun. I agree with him. So may we ask the

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004070

good sponsor to explain what objective or criteria, no, such as the

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004071

Philippine Development Plan for 2023 to 2028, sectoral plans, no, that needs

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004072

assessments, feasibility study, and measurable outcomes. We're used to

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004073

classify projects and programs as priorities across economic, social, defense,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004074

general public service.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004075

We also need to consider the debt-burdened sectors. Natanong na po ito kanina. Medyo pasensya na po, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, medyo nakulangan ako doon sa sagot kasi I agree with Congressman Tinio na medyo may mga nilagyan tayo ng budget na

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004076

Hindi naman totoong revenue generating yung contributor to economic growth na sana kung inuna natin yung ibang sektor na contributing to the economic growth, makikinabang din naman yung mga targeted subsidized sector.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004077

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, amid very limited fiscal space, increasing borrowing costs and growing debt levels, kinailangan pong mag-prioritize ng DBM sapagkat P[unclear] trillion po yung kabuuang budget proposals na dumating po sa kanila. So they had to prioritize P7.2 trillion out of that. The criteria that they used po, they employed five criteria:

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004078

First is alignment with the Philippine Development Plan. Second is shovel readiness. Third is absorptive capacity. Fourth is fiscal space. And fifth po, prioritization of government programs that deliver the highest value and impact. So yun po yung limang kriteriya na ginamit po ng DBM.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004079

Maraming salamat po, Distinguished Sponsor. Pupunta po ako doon sa absorptive capacity.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004080

I totally agree na tama po yung kriteriya na yun. But I have a reservation, no? In reality, for example, may I cite the sitio electrification program of NEA.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004081

Alam naman po natin yung economic contribution pag na-electrify natin yung isang lugar. Aside na nabigyan natin ng ginhawa yung mga tao.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004082

Baka may mga negosyo. O hindi lang baka. In my experience, 43 years ako sa rural electrification, talagang umuunlad. Kaya nga yung mga barangay noon, nung nailawan na sa mga electric co-op yung area, nagiging munisipyo. Yung mga munisipyo nagiging city. Kaya malinaw po yung economic growth.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004083

Pero pag-i-measure natin yung absorptive capacity ng NEA, dahil lang hindi nagastos yung...

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004084

Mayroon po tayong hindi nakita na dahilan. Nire-release po yung pundo, third quarter. Pag-release mo ng third quarter, sa bidding process pa lang, kakainin na niya yung buong third quarter.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004085

Pag-release ng DBM sa third quarter yan, mag-umpisa na yung project.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004086

Third quarter na, ay six months yung kailangan para ma-latag yung mga linya doon sa mga liblib na lugar. Ay talagang hindi niya ma-li-liquidate yun. Hindi ma-uubos.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004087

Kaya kung titignan yan, ay hindi maganda yung absorptive capacity. Ang sinasabi ko po, ay tingnan yung mga gray area na yan. Kung i-release yan ng first quarter, I agree na kung 70 lang siya, 60 or less.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004088

May problema siya sa absorptive capacity. Kasi we are talking here, doon sa example ko, of extending the lines to par-plunk and unviable areas na hindi po basta-basta.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004089

Thank you.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004090

May malaki po tayong inilagay dyan sa Barsi noong 2026 budget po kasi nag-release po tayo ng, if I'm not mistaken, 2 billion sa sityo electrification program po within NEA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004091

So, iti-check lang po ng pamilya natin sa DBM yung absorptive capacity utilization rate po ng NEA.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004092

Ang tinutukoy ko lang, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, Distinguished Sponsor, ang ginawa ko lang example yung NEA.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004093

But I know, there are a lot of government agencies na hindi on time na-release yung kanilang budget appropriation.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004094

Kaya, yung kriteriya natin na measurement na absorptive capacity, mayroon akong reservation.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004095

Kasi kung sasabi ko, third quarter muna i-release yan, tapos yung project nila, DICT halimbawa,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004096

e, bibiding pa nila yung mga kawan, yung mga supplier, yung mga contractor, ay hindi talaga nila ma-liquidate yan at the end of the fiscal year.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004097

So, magre-replic yan na mababa yung absorptive capacity nila.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004098

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, upon conferring with DBM, yes, they recognize that.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004099

Kasi po, halimbawa, second quarter na.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004100

Or, paminsan third quarter na po nare-release yung SARO, talaga po natatamaan po yung utilization rate ng ahensya sa buong taon.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004101

So, they will look into it po and make sure that instead of doing, siguro, a straight line assessment,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004102

medyo baka pwedeng pro-rated yung approach para hindi naman po masaktan talaga yung utilization rate ng ahensya

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004103

dahil late na-release yung SARO.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004104

So, DBM will look into it po.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004105

I appreciate that. Sa lahat ng sekretary sa seven years ko dito, si Sekretary Kim lang ang umamin na titignan nila.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004106

Lahat may mga ibang dahilan. So, thank you, Sekretary Kim, na titignan ninyo.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004107

Lahat ng agency, ginawa ko lang example yung, ano, yung, actually, Mr. Speaker, may apat pa ako na issue.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004108

Pero, papahingayin ko muna yung...

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004109

favorite person ko. So, hindi ko na itatanong tong iba. Hindi ko na itatanong.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-004110

So, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you sa mga sagot, Sekretary Kim, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004111

Thank you very much po to our distinguished colleague, Kong Sergio Dagooc. Thank you very much po.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-004112

Thank you, the Honorable Dagooc. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-004113

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable...

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Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla

asr-004114

Honorable Elijah San Fernando from Partylist Kamanggagawa to interplay it on the proposed budget on the debate on general principles and provisions.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-004115

The Honorable Elijah San Fernando of Partylist Kamanggagawa is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004116

Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker, at sa ating kagalang-galang na sponsor, Chairperson Mika.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004117

Ang una kong katanungan...

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004118

Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, kinikilala po ng Estado ang fundamental na karapatan ng mga Pilipino sa impormasyon po yung People's Right to Information,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004119

Article 3, Section 7 of 1987 Constitution.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004120

And this simply means, Madam Sponsor, that transparency is paramount in all government proceedings, including the budget deliberations.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004121

Now, Madam Sponsor, the...

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004122

The general provisions contain six separate transparency sections.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004123

Can the sponsor point to a single provision in the HGAB or the 2027 NEP that gives an ordinary citizen or a duly accredited organization the right to be heard on record before an appropriation is finalized?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004124

Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004125

Madam Sponsor, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004126

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, there are two stages where there is involvement, not in the GAAP, but the first stage would be during the budget call.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004127

So during the budget preparation stage...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004128

yun noong budget calendar ng DBM na meron pong consultation sa atin pong mga civil society organizations

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004129

or kung sino po yung gusto mag-participate in the budget process.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004130

In the budget process, on that part po, there is section 54 which pertains to Philippine Open Government Partnership.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004131

So, departments, bureaus, offices, and instrumentalities of the national government, etc.,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004132

shall adopt the open government partnership values of transparency, accountability, and citizen participation.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004133

So, doon po, nabanggit po yun, section 54.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004134

We also have it not during the budget deliberations in Congress because that is a legislative function.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004135

But while that's not in the GA itself or in the special...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004136

or general provisions, we've adopted that, we've institutionalized that.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004137

Within the House po, we've formed the task force for people's participation, we've done the people's budget review,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004138

we are refining the engagement models with civil society organizations.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004139

So, meron din pong ganong engagement.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004140

And then, when it comes to implementation, after the GA is passed, marami pong special provisions na nakakalat po sa iba't-ibang ahensya

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004141

na nag...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004142

that allows people's audit for monitoring purposes.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004143

I'm sure meron po under the special provision of the Department of Agriculture, for example,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004144

wherein a people's audit is allowed for infrastructure and for up-to-market road projects.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004145

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Mrs. Speaker, for pointing that out.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004146

Na merong konsultasyon na nagaganap sa agency level bago po umakyat o pumasok dito sa Kongreso.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004147

Pero the civil society...

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004148

the organizations would agree with me, and in fact, partner po natin, ang karamihan sa kanila,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004149

na kadalasan po, dito sa mga budget call ng mga ahensya ng gobyerno,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004150

hindi naman po talaga napaka-meaningful ng participation ng mga civil society organizations.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004151

More often than not, nagiging stampad lang yung mga civil society organizations para lang masabi na merong participation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004152

At maganda po na na-point out ng ating sponsor yung Section 54, which I will proceed to that later, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004153

Maganda po, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, na binanggit ninyo na merong mga mekanismo tungkol sa transparency after the funds are already spent.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004154

In fact, if we are going to read together all the sections pertaining to transparency, lahat ito ay pumapatungkol kapag na-spent na o na-gasos na yung pondo.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004155

So walang mga probisyon na pumapatungkol doon sa participation ng mga organizations.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004156

Inari yung Pilipino o na mga people's organizations, civil society organizations, doon sa proseso ng pagbalangkas pa lang ng budget.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004157

Tama po ba ito, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004158

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, yes, we recognize that point.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004159

However, sa gaap po kasi, the special provisions there relate to budget implementation.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004160

That's why there are no general or special provisions.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004161

That pertain in the deliberation and the formulation of the budget itself.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004162

So, yun po, kung titinan po natin, lahat po ng mga general provisions at special provisions na nakapaloob sa budget ay patungkol po sa budget implementation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004163

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004164

Nabanggit po ng sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004165

kanina, yung Section 54 ng

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004166

General Provisions po natin.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004167

And the government shall adopt

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004168

the values of transparency,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004169

accountability,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004170

and citizens' participation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004171

Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004172

what is the operational definition

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004173

of transparency,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004174

accountability, and citizens'

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004175

participation? Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004176

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004177

given that the Philippine

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004178

Open Government Partnership is under

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004179

the purview of the DBM,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004180

so I've deferred to that on

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004181

the query,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004182

we can cite the definitions

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004183

as stated in the proposed

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004184

Philippine Budgeting Code. This is

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004185

still currently a bill under deliberation,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004186

but using the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004187

definitions here.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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So transparency means

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where the relevant

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asr-004190

information at all stages

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asr-004191

of the budget cycle is proactively

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asr-004192

disclosed as may be practicable

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asr-004193

and where citizen participation is integral

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asr-004194

in all phases of the budget cycle

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asr-004195

to promote informed, equitable, and responsive

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asr-004196

allocation and use of resources.

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asr-004197

Accountability

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is defined as

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asr-004199

where all heads of agencies

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asr-004200

and instrumentalities of the national government

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asr-004201

are held responsible for the proper use,

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asr-004202

management, and safeguarding of government

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asr-004203

funds and property

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asr-004204

pertaining to their institutions,

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asr-004205

ensuring that all actions and expenditures

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asr-004206

comply with authorized appropriations,

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asr-004207

laws, rules, and regulations.

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asr-004208

Citizen participation

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asr-004243

for

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asr-004244

citizen

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asr-004245

participation

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asr-004246

um

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asr-004247

also

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asr-004248

under the same

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asr-004249

bill

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asr-004250

section

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asr-004251

27

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asr-004252

the government

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asr-004253

shall establish

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asr-004254

and implement

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asr-004255

suitable

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asr-004256

participatory

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asr-004257

budget

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asr-004258

mechanisms

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asr-004259

to ensure

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asr-004260

open

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asr-004261

inclusive

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asr-004262

transparent

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asr-004263

and meaningful

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asr-004264

engagement

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asr-004265

of citizens

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asr-004266

and stakeholder

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asr-004267

during the

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asr-004268

budget

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asr-004269

preparation

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asr-004270

process

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asr-004271

so

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asr-004272

yun pa yung

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asr-004273

technical

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asr-004274

definitions

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asr-004275

um

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asr-004276

so far

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asr-004277

sa draft

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asr-004278

pa lang po yun

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asr-004279

ng Philippine

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asr-004280

Budgeting Code

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004281

maraming salamat po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004282

sa pagbibigay

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004283

ng ilang mga

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004284

definisyon

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asr-004285

tungkol po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004286

sa transparency

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004287

accountability

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004288

at citizens

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asr-004289

participation

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asr-004290

Mr. Speaker

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asr-004291

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004292

would the sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004293

agree with me

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asr-004294

that

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asr-004295

transparency

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asr-004296

is

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asr-004297

accountability

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004298

and citizens

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asr-004299

participation

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004300

are integral

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asr-004301

components

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asr-004302

of transparency

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004303

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004304

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004305

ibig sabihin po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004306

transparency

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004307

cannot stand

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004308

without accountability

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004309

and citizens

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004310

participation

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asr-004311

especially when

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asr-004312

we are talking

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004313

about

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asr-004314

deliberations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004315

on budget

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004316

Mr. Speaker

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asr-004317

Madam Sponsor

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asr-004318

I think one

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asr-004319

is not dependent

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asr-004320

on the other

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asr-004321

these three

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asr-004322

go hand in hand

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asr-004323

so hindi po siguro

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asr-004324

one is dependent

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asr-004325

on the other

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004326

or meaning

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asr-004327

subsumed

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asr-004328

yung transparency

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004329

under these two

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asr-004330

but those three

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asr-004331

are interconnected

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004332

thank you Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004333

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004334

maganda po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004335

ang pinunto

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004336

ng ating

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004337

kagalang-galang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004338

na sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004339

na it goes

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004340

hand in hand

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004341

so po pwede rin po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004342

nating masabi

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004343

na magiging mahirap

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004344

na mag-exist

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004345

ang transparency

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004346

without accountability

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004347

and vice versa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004348

at isama na rin po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004349

natin yung usapin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004350

ng

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004351

citizens participation

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004352

ngayon po Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004353

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004354

given the definition

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asr-004355

at dun po sa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004356

agreement natin

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asr-004357

on those principles

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004358

papaano po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004359

inapply

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004360

yung prinsipyo

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004361

ng transparency

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004362

accountability

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004363

and citizens participation

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004364

sa pagbalangkas po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004365

ng

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004366

ng

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004367

2027 NEP

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004368

at ng HGAP

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004369

sa kasalukuyan po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004370

kasi 2027 NEP eh

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004371

so nasimulan po natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004372

itong mga mahalagang

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004373

reforma na to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004374

nung nakalaang taon

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004375

yung pinakamahalaga po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004376

this is

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asr-004377

probably the biggest

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004378

transparency related

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004379

reform we've done

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004380

which is

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asr-004381

we've abolished

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004382

the small committee

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004383

which

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asr-004384

was perceived

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004385

as a very opaque

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004386

behind the scenes

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004387

process in the past

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004388

so wala na po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004389

yung small committee

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004390

ngayon po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004391

lahat ng mga amienda

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004392

ay tinatalakay

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004393

ng bukas

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004394

sa publiko

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004395

nakikita po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004396

na ating mga kabayan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004397

line by line

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004398

yung ating mga amienda

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004399

pangalawa po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004400

sa level din po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004401

ng

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004402

ng kongreso

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004403

yung citizens participation po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004404

although we are still

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004405

refining the engagement models

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004406

as we go along

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004407

in institution

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004408

lies na rin po natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004409

yung people's budget review

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004410

at yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004411

yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004412

abilidad na ating mga

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004413

civil society organizations

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004414

na makapagtanong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004415

sa mga ahensya na gobyerno

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004416

sa kahabahan po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004417

ng mga committee hearings

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004418

sa pamamagitan po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004419

ng ating mga vice chairpersons

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004420

at tuloy-tuloy po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004421

yung kanilang engagement

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004422

we've also

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004423

put together po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004424

at kaka

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004425

start lang po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004426

sa congress website

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004427

noong portal natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004428

para sa mga civil society

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004429

organizations

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004430

nabanggit po kasi

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004431

na paminsan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004432

medyo nahihirapan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004433

sa namakuha yung mga dokumento

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004434

so in the spirit of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004435

transparency

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004436

and close coordination

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004437

nagsimula na po tayo

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004438

noong portal na yun

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004439

at isa pa po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004440

sa pinakamahalaga

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004441

ay yung ating

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004442

pagsagawa

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004443

ng unang

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004444

open bicam

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004445

sa kasaysayan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004446

ng ating bansa

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004447

na yun dati po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004448

ay

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004449

hindi po nakikita

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004450

kung ano yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004451

deliberasyon

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004452

ng bicam

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004453

nakita po yan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004454

ng ating mga

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004455

kababayan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004456

anim na araw

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004457

hanggang madaling araw po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004458

linivestream po natin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004459

yung bicam

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004460

so we started

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004461

these meaningful reforms

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004462

last year

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004463

and although

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004464

there are still

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004465

some

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004466

minor

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004467

like minor

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004468

and major tweaks

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004469

that we would have to do

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004470

to refine these

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004471

engagement models

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004472

talaga pong

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004473

isinasa po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004474

natin yan

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004475

at

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004476

panghuli po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004477

ang mahalaga din po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004478

kung makikita nyo po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004479

sa mga special provisions

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004480

sa iba't ibang mga ahensya

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004481

lalo na po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004482

yung mga ahensya

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004483

na merong imprestruktura

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004484

makikita nyo po doon

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004485

naglagay po tayo

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004486

ng mga requirement

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004487

na kailangan maglagay

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004488

yung iba't ibang ahensya

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004489

ng mga

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004490

transparency portals

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004491

or monitoring portals

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004492

para po sa kanilang

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004493

mga infrastructure

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004494

projects

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004495

so yun po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004496

ay ating

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004497

idinagdag

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004498

sa level po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004499

ng ating pagbalangkas

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004500

ng budget

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004501

Maraming salamat po

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004502

Mr. Speaker

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004503

Madam Sponsor

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004504

bagamat na

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004505

appreciate po natin

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asr-004506

ang pagtalakay

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004507

sa ilang mga reports

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004508

and informa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004509

the civil society organizations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004510

would say otherwise

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004511

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004512

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004513

in fact

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004514

sinabi po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004515

ng People's Budget Coalition

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004516

sa People's Budget Review

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004517

hindi po sapat

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004518

o hindi meaningful participation

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004519

ang tatlong minutong

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004520

ibinigay

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004521

sa bawat

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004522

civil society organizations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004523

alam nyo po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004524

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004525

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004526

ang nangyari po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004527

ay nag-imbitalang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004528

ng mga civil society organizations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004529

ng People's Budget Review

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004530

kung saan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004531

tatlong minuto

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004532

lang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004533

ang ibinigay

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004534

sa bawat isang CSO

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004535

hindi po sapat

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004536

ang tatlong minuto

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004537

Madam Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004538

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004539

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004540

para talakayin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004541

buo

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004542

o komprehensibo

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004543

yung mga nais

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004544

na reforma

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004545

ng mga civil society

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004546

organizations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004547

in fact

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004548

if I may quote

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004549

one of the members

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004550

of People's Budget Coalition

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004551

Madam Ziza

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004552

Nadine Susara

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004553

what exactly

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004554

was covered

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004555

by the People's Budget Review

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004556

today

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004557

this pertains

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004558

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004559

to the People's Budget Review

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004560

that was conducted

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004561

by the Committee on Appropriations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004562

which agency

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004563

program budgets

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004564

were presented

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004565

and discussed

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004566

nothing

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004567

were CSOs

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004568

given a chance

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004569

to explain their proposals

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004570

no

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004571

they were only given

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004572

three minutes

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004573

to speak

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004574

how the heck

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004575

can anyone

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004576

explain a technical proposal

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004577

in such short

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004578

a time

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004579

which CSO

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004580

inputs

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004581

did the Committee on Appropriations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004582

consider

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004583

none

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004584

what did they commit

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004585

to include

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004586

in the 2027

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004587

gov

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004588

none

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004589

are they going

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004590

to publish a report

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004591

on the proceedings

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004592

ewan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004593

are they going

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004594

to post photos

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004595

oh for sure

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004596

meron nga eh

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004597

so ang naramdaman po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004598

ng mga civil society

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004599

organizations dito

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004600

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004601

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004602

e naging palamuti lang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004603

ang mga CSOs

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004604

doon sa tinatawag natin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004605

na People's

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004606

Budget Review

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004607

hindi po nila nakita

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004608

yung pagsasalubungan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004609

ng mga konsepto

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004610

ng transparency

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004611

accountability

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004612

at citizens

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004613

participation

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004614

now would the sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004615

agree with me

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004616

Mr. Speaker

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004617

Madam Sponsor

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004618

that transparency

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004619

is not just about

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004620

live streaming

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004621

of the proceedings

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004622

Madam Sponsor

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004623

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004624

Siguro

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004625

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004626

I would like to clarify

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004627

a point

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004628

the People's Budget Review

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004629

and the format

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004630

and the way

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004631

it was conducted

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004632

the number of minutes

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004633

that were allocated

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004634

to each of the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004635

different CSOs

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004636

to present

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004637

that was not

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004638

under the purview

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004639

of the Committee

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004640

on Appropriations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004641

it was the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004642

CPBRD

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004643

which is the head

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004644

of the House

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004645

Task Force

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004646

on People's

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004647

Participation

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004648

who set forth

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004649

all of that

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004650

in fairness

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004651

to the Committee

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004652

on Appropriations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004653

the Vice Chairpersons

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004654

who were assigned

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004655

to sponsor

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004656

the agencies

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004657

and the sectors

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004658

that were represented

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004659

by the different

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004660

civil society

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004661

organizations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004662

sinigurado po namin

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004663

tinanong pa namin

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004664

alin pong mga

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004665

sektor

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004666

yung represented

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004667

ng mga CSOs

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004668

pumunta po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004669

yung Vice Chairperson

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004670

ng Committee

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004671

on Appropriations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004672

na

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004673

um

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004674

,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004675

na-assigned po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004676

doon po sa sektor na yun

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004677

so on the part of the Committee

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004678

on Appropriations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004679

Mr. Speaker

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004680

Distinguished Colleague

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004681

we did our part

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004682

in a sense na

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004683

we made sure

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004684

there was representation

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004685

for the different sectors

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004686

and

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004687

finally po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004688

yung sa commitment po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004689

actually po

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004690

no one member

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004691

not even

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004692

myself

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004693

can commit

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004694

point blank

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004695

on a particular

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004696

funding

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004697

for a particular project

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004698

or a program

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004699

because all of these

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004700

amendments

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004701

would have to go through

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004702

the deliberation

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004703

of the BARC

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004704

and the

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004705

and um

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004706

and approved

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004707

um by the body

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004708

and by the plenary

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004709

so siguro po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004710

naiintindihan ko po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004711

yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004712

um

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004713

yung pagnanais

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004714

ng commitment

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004715

ng Diretso

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004716

pero

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004717

um I would like to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004718

clarify po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004719

that there is

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004720

no one member

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004721

no Vice Chairperson

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004722

not even the Chairperson

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004723

of the Committee

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004724

on Appropriations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004725

who can commit

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004726

on a specific funding

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004727

right then and there

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004728

but in terms

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004729

of considering

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004730

the amendments po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004731

um

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004732

we definitely

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004733

took note

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004734

we definitely

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004735

uh

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004736

are making sure

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004737

that their inputs

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004738

at the time

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004739

um

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004740

will be incorporated

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004741

in the deliberations

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004742

of the BARC

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004743

last year po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004744

um

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004745

yung mga nabanggit nila

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004746

additional funding

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004747

for classrooms

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004748

additional funding

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004749

for transportation

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004750

initiatives

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004751

additional funding

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004752

for health

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004753

initiatives

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004754

climate initiatives

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004755

all of those

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004756

were considered

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004757

by the 2026 GAA

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004758

so our request po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004759

please give us time

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004760

as we move forward

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004761

with the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004762

deliberation

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004763

of the amendments

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004764

but rest assured po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004765

their input

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004766

inputs are

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004767

um

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004768

being considered

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004769

by the House

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004770

maganda po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004771

na nabanggit

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004772

ng kagalang-galang

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004773

na sponsor

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004774

Mrs. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004775

na hindi naman daw

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004776

Committee on Appropriations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004777

yung nagli-lead

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004778

ng People's Budget Review

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004779

paggos

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004780

ito'y pinangungunahan

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004781

ng CPBRD

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004782

so ang tanong po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004783

Mrs. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004784

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004785

why was the People's Budget Review

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004786

conducted by the

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004787

CPBRD

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004788

which has

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004789

no authority

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004790

to adopt

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004791

or reject

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004792

any budget proposal

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004793

rather than

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by the Committee

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on Appropriations

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itself

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Madam Sponsor

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Mrs. Speaker

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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Mr. Speaker

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um

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the reason for that

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is when

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the House constituted

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the House

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um

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asr-004806

Task Force

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on People's Participation

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yung CPBRD po

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yung

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um

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in-assign

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as the head

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of that particular

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task force

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the reason being

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um

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in terms of engagement

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po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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um

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004820

the Committee on Appropriations

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004821

po kasi handles

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004822

the budget itself

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asr-004823

um

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004824

so

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004825

kailangan po namin

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004826

ng tulong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004827

na meron pong

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asr-004828

ibang

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004829

opisina

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asr-004830

within Congress

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004831

who would help us out

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004832

also with all the

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asr-004833

coordination

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004834

logistics

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004835

um

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004836

and the

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the continuous

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004838

engagement po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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so

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um

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

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that is

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simply the reason po

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asr-004843

the House Task Force

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asr-004844

on People's Participation

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asr-004845

was constituted

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asr-004846

CPBRD

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004847

was the one assigned

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004848

to head such task force

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004849

Thank you Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004850

Mrs. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004851

Alam niyo po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004852

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004853

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004854

kaya ako po pinupoint out

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004855

itong mga katanungan nito

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004856

dahil 20 years ago

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004857

in this August Chamber

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004858

the Committee on Appropriations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004859

had broken tradition

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004860

after it approved

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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on 17 September 2007

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004862

the participation of

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bona fide people's

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organizations

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and non-government

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organizations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004867

in public hearings

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on the General Appropriations

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asr-004869

Bill

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asr-004870

hindi lang po sila

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004871

simpleng spectator

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asr-004872

or observer

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004873

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004874

hindi lang po sila

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004875

simpleng pinagpasa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004876

ng mga papel

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004877

kung ano ang tingin nila

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004878

doon sa pambansang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004879

budget

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asr-004880

kundi sila po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004881

ay aktibong

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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inimbita

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bilang mga

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resource persons

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para maging kalahok

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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themselves

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004887

sa pagbalangkas

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004888

at pagbusisi po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004889

sa pambansang budget

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004890

and this reform

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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structural reform

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004892

was spearheaded

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by no other than

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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the late honorable

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004895

Edsel Lagman

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004896

he believed

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004897

and he argued then

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asr-004898

he was the Committee

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asr-004899

of Appropriations Chair

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004900

during that time

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004901

he argued

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004902

that the traditional

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asr-004903

practice

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asr-004904

of limiting

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asr-004905

budget briefings

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asr-004906

and deliberations

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asr-004907

and hearings

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asr-004908

solely to

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asr-004909

government department

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asr-004910

heads

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asr-004911

and representatives

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asr-004912

was an incomplete

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asr-004913

process

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asr-004914

and that the people

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asr-004915

as the ultimate beneficiaries

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asr-004916

or casualties

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004917

of budget allocations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004918

should be given

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004919

the opportunity

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asr-004920

to be heard

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asr-004921

through their non-elective

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asr-004922

and alternative representatives

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asr-004923

in the people's organizations

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asr-004924

and non-government

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asr-004925

organizations community

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004926

alam niyo po napakalaking

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004927

reforma ang ginawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004928

during that time

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asr-004929

he argued

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asr-004930

the late honorable

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asr-004931

Edsel Lagman

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argued that

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way back in 2007

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and this representation

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asr-004935

delivers it

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004936

until now

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004937

na kailangan po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004938

na hindi lang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004939

spectator at observer

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004940

ang mga people's

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004941

organizations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004942

and in fact

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004943

during this time

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004944

Mr. Speaker

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004945

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, inimbita po ang mga civil society organizations to present yung tinatawag na Alternative Budget Initiative, ABI.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004946

At ang mga civil society organizations na po na ito noon ay kasama at kaibigan pa rin po natin hanggang ngayon.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004947

These are the Social Watch Philippines and other civil society organizations.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004948

So ito po yung pinupunto natin Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, na pagdating po sa pagre-reforma patungkol sa transparency, accountability, at citizens' participation,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004949

our CSOs demand not a tokenistic, hindi po tokenistic na ibibigay sa kanila na isang espasyo kung saan magiging observer lang po sila,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004950

o pagpapasahin natin ang mga papel patungkol dun sa mga reformang gusto natin.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004951

So ano po ang tingin dito ng kagalang-galang na sponsor, Mr. Speaker?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004952

Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004953

Mr. Speaker, the engagement guidelines po, to be honest, are not drafted by the Committee on Appropriations.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004954

In terms of what would be the level of participation po, again, that is under the purview of the CPBRD.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004955

But I have the greatest respect for the Honorable Edson Lagman, and I really admire all the reforms that he put forth when he was Chairman of the Committee on Appropriations.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004956

So we will look into it po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004957

Again, we started it last year to engage the civil society organizations after so many, like more than a decade of not having engaged them.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004958

So please give us some time po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004959

We will look into all of these engagement models.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004960

Here with us is Representative Chrisel.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004961

You know po how much I love Kong Edsel.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004962

So we will look at all of these and the models that were employed during the time of Chairperson.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004963

Edsel Lagman.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004964

Maraming salamat po, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004965

Ang nais lamang po nating ipunto dito, hindi naman po natin po pwedeng laging ituro na CPBRD ang nag-head o nagsispearhead ng maganyang reformang o aktibidad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004966

Dapat po ang mismong Committee on Appropriations ang siyang nangunguna at nagtitiyak na ang ating mga kasama sa civil society organizations

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004967

ay nagiging kabahagi o aktibong kabahagi ng pagbabalangkas ng ating pambansang budget.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004968

Now Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004969

will the Sponsor accept an amendment at the appropriate time requiring that the detailed breakdown of every lump sum appropriation including the LGSF and the FALGU be published in machine readable form under the Unified Accounts Code Structure at the time the National Expenditure Program is transmitted to Congress?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004970

We will hear it at the proper time, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004971

We will hear it during the proper time, during the deliberations po, as to which amendment the Honorable San Fernando wants to put forth.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004972

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004973

Table 8.6 of the Budget Expenditure and Sources of Financing was released as an image rather than as data.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004974

Was that a deliberate choice and can the DBM be directed to reissue the entire DBM?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004975

The majority of the budget, the NEP and the BESF in a machine readable format before this bill is put to a vote.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004976

Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004977

We'll take a look at it po, given that the HGAB is a reflection, is a mirror image of the National Expenditure Program.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004978

So we are checking po with DBM as they are the source for that particular table.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004979

Give me a few seconds po to confer with DBM.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004980

May we clarify lang po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004981

Which table number is it po alet?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004982

Table 8.6 of the BESF.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004983

So pwede po bang i-direct natin ang DBM to issue the entirety of the budget, the NEP and BESF in machine read?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004984

Actually, matagal na pong problema ito ng mga CSOs, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004985

Hindi po machine readable yung format ng mga dokumento natin, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004986

The uploaded version po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004987

Tine-check po, tine-test po ni Sec Kim ngayon.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004988

The uploaded version is actually copyable.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004989

It's not an image. It's a table po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004990

So our partners from CSOs will just confirm that.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004991

Maraming salamat po if the good secretary has confirmed that.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004992

We'll just take a look po if whether when it was translated in the soft copy of the GAB,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004993

whether the same table was lifted as is or it was converted to an image.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004994

Ado po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-004995

Hindi sinasadya.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004996

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004997

Proceeding to my next question, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004998

Section 106 allows the Commission on Audit until 31st October of the following year

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004999

to publish annual audit reports which is after the budget hearings for the succeeding year have concluded.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005000

In the appropriate time, will the sponsor accept an amendment advancing that deadline

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005001

so that the audited record of the preceding year is available?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005002

While we are still deliberating, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005003

Mr. Speaker, Madam Speaker, I would be happy to hear that at the proper time.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005004

Actually, that was something that I advocated for last year.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005005

If you would remember, during the budget deliberations of COA, it was later.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005006

Dati po, December 31.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005007

Pero, ado po, we negotiated po kasi with COA kung ano talaga yung kaya nila

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005008

because there are also deadlines.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005009

From the agencies and then may consolidation pa po on the part of COA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005010

So, at that time, last year, the best that they can commit was October 31

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005011

and whichever becomes available by September 31, they would publish or transmit right away.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005012

So, actually, po sinubukan ko din po yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005013

I actually requested last year kung kaya sana by July 30 or July 1 before the NEP is transmitted to us.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005014

But at that time,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005015

there were certain logistical limitations on the part of COA.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005016

But I'm with you on that po because I tried last year also to move up the timeline by a lot.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005017

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005018

At nagkatagpo po kami ni Madam Sponsor on that particular issue.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005019

Last question before I wind up, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005020

Interpolation on the office of the President was suspended by a vote of 37-5

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005021

on parliamentary courtesy

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005022

and the question is,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005023

questions on 4.55 billion in confidential and intelligence funds when unasked.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005024

On what constitutional basis can a custom of courtesy defeat the duty of this Chamber

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005025

to examine an appropriation and will those questions be answered in writing

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005026

or even in this plenary discussion before the bill is passed, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005027

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, most definitely po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005028

We will be able to assure there is a plenary deliberation for the office of the President

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005029

and all of our colleagues who wish to propound questions has the time to ask the budget sponsor for the office of the President.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005030

So lahat po ng katanungan pwede po maitanong dito po sa deliberation ng office of the President sa plenaryo at the proper time.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005031

Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005032

Last note, before I end my interpellation, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005033

gusto ko lang pong bigyang diin yung pinag-usapan po natin kanina tungkol sa mga reformang naumpisahan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005034

at inuumpisahan patungkol sa partisipasyon ng mamamayan sa pagbalangkas po ng ating budget.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005035

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, hindi po po pwede na lagi po nating sinasabi

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005036

na transparent ang buong proseso ng pagbalangkas o paggawa ng budget

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005037

at nililimitahan lang natin ito sa pamamagitan na,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005038

naka-livestream yung mga proceedings.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005039

Transparency, accountability, and citizens' participation go hand-in-hand.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005040

At matitiyak lang po natin na tunay na may participation ang ating mamamayan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005041

kung sila po ay mismong kalahok kasama nating nagbabalangkas

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005042

because the ultimate beneficiary, and as the Honorable Late Edsel Agman has said,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005043

the ultimate beneficiary or casualty of whatever we are deliberating upon here in this August Chamber

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005044

ay ang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005045

mga mamamayan at ang mamamayang Pilipino, mga manggagawa, at ordinaryong Pilipino.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005046

Yun lamang po, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa ating sponsor sa pagsagot sa mga katanungan,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-005047

lalong-lalo na ng ating mga CSOs and POs. Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005048

Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Thank you very much to our distinguished colleague, the Honorable Elie San Fernando.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005049

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla

asr-005050

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Rene Luis M. Co. from Partylist Kabataan.

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Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla

asr-005051

To interpolate on the debate on general principles and provisions.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-005052

Is there any objection? Hearing none, Representative Rene Luis Co. of Partylist Kabataan is recognized.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005053

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good afternoon to our distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005054

I'd just like to pick up on the earlier interpolations of our colleagues on LGSF and even on the BDP.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005055

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005056

Distinguished colleague, why do we have this funding mechanism where specific LGUs have an entitled allotment

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005057

then they can have a menu of items they can choose from?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005058

My concern is, won't this be prone to abuse depending on the priorities of the executive head of government

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005059

that is elected and can change per electoral cycle?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005060

Why not just allocate these funds accordingly?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005061

Regarding to what is programmed in Master Plans instead?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005062

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, perhaps if I may suggest po, if we could differentiate the different items

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005063

or different plans.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005064

For example, there's a menu that is approved by Congress during every Ga'a as to what the menu would be for those particular items.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005065

However, there are certain programs na meron na po talaga silang intended use.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005066

For example, NTF-ELCAC.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005067

Talagang may identified lang po talaga na qualified barangays na pwede sa NTF-ELCAC.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005068

For the Growth Equity Fund, it's limited to 4th and 5th class municipalities

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005069

who may have deficits even after the NTA allotment is provided.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005070

So, actually po, the disbursement of the LGSF is actually governed by the special provision on LGSF.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005071

So, every Ga'a po, actually, posibleng magpalit yung menu ng Falgo, for example.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005072

But for NTF-ELCAC and for Growth Equity Fund, may intended use po talaga sila.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005073

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, as much as this representation would like to put trust

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005074

on the implementation of supposedly these standards, these mechanisms that should check whether the funding for specific local projects

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005075

are followed, we have on record a discussion, an admission from a Secretary for last year when I asked during the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005076

discussions on the Department of Agriculture's budget proposal in 2026, this good Secretary admitted that

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005077

even though there's already a national plan for farm-to-market roads, it is still the congressmen who dictate which roads will be built

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005078

depending on whose lobbying will be granted.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005082

And for this fiscal year, 2026, we saw that Region 1 was given the greatest allocation.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005083

So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, even though we see that there are standards provided in law,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005084

they can differ, that there could be special provisions in different types of fundings,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005085

whether that be LGSF or NTF-ELCAC, which I will go to a bit later, how do we ensure that these standards are met?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005086

given that there are admissions from our members of different agencies that they're not really followed?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005087

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005088

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, in the case of LGSF, for example, Falgo, it is highly dependent on the LGUs.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005089

So, it really depends on which LGUs submit project proposals into the portal.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005090

And then, the evaluation and the determination as to which LGUs would receive projects

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005091

is solely at the discretion of the DBM based on specific criteria and evaluation requirements.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005092

So, pagdating po sa LGSF, actually, wala po talaga, aside from Congress laying out which menu items would be allowable for that year,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005093

it's really in the purview of DBM to receive proposals from the local government units

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005094

and to evaluate them and ultimately determine which projects will be funded.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005095

So, is the answer, Madam Speaker, that at least for LGSF,

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005096

there are, well, the protection is that DBM will eventually be the one to release that funding,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005097

and approve certain projects.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005098

After the lump sum is granted, but that's only for LGSF, in particular, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005099

Particularly po for LGSF Falgo, based on the menu and

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005100

put forth, set forth

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005101

in the GAA as well as the criteria

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005102

for evaluation.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005103

Madam Speaker, I'd like to

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005104

relate to

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005105

and LGSF also

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005106

nabanggit na nakalign item

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005107

ang funds para sa Barangay Development

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005108

Program or BDP

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005109

ng NTF-ELCAC. Tama po ba

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005110

Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005111

Nakalign item po ang funds

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005112

para sa Barangay Development Program.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005113

Mr. Speaker, what we have

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005114

as an annex in the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005115

NEP and also in the

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005116

HGAB is the list of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005117

cleared barangays who are qualified

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005118

to receive NTF-ELCAC

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005119

for a particular year.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005120

So yes, in effect po, nakalign item po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005121

yung mga recipient.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005122

It's now NTF-ELCAC.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005123

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005124

I'm hearing a confirmation that in the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005125

NEP and later in the GAA,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005126

ang line items na ito ay listahan

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005127

lang ng lahat ng mga barangay

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005128

na beneficiary ng BDP.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005129

Pero lopsang pa rin po ba siya?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005130

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005131

Last year, 10 million each

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005132

for 808 barangays

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005133

and for the next fiscal year, 5 billion

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005134

each for 1,948

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005135

barangays. Is this correct,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005136

Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005137

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005138

Technically, if you look at it

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005139

in the item of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005140

for ALGU,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005141

allocation for LGUs,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005142

technically lump sum po siya doon.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005143

But in the annex of the GAA,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005144

there is a list,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005145

a supporting table

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005146

which lists all the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005147

beneficiary barangays.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005148

Uniform naman po kasi yung amount

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005149

na nare-receive per barangay.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005150

So naka-detail out po siya.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005151

So it's lump sum in its presentation

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005152

in the main body of the budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005153

But it has an annex that

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005154

shows the line items,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005155

essentially the full list of beneficiaries.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005156

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005157

distinguished sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005158

gaya po ng tanong natin sa LGSF,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005159

ano-ano nga ba ang standards

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005160

and safeguards natin para sa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005161

pondong ito? Ang nakasulat lang po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005162

sa special provision on BDP,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005163

quote-unquote, cleared

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005164

barangays as certified by the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005165

NTFL cap. Pero ano nga ba?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005166

Ano ba ang mga pamantayan para masabing

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005167

cleared ang isang barangay?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005168

Simply put, Madam Speaker, what constitutes

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005169

a cleared barangay?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005170

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005171

the identification of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005172

these cleared barangays is actually

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005173

under the purview of the DILG.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005174

The

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005175

condition or criteria being

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005176

that the target beneficiary LGUs

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005177

under the LGSF

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005178

SBDP or the NTFL

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005179

are the cleared barangays which

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005180

underwent community

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005181

support program or CSP

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005182

and retooled CSP in

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005183

calendar year 2026.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005184

So meron pong

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005185

specific conditions na kailangan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005186

po nila ma-meet as per LCAC.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005187

These

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005188

CSPs, Madam Speaker, good

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005189

sponsor, dapat po noong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005190

2026 ay naisagawa nila,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005191

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005192

Tama po, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005193

for them to be considered a cleared

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005194

barangay for inclusion in the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005195

2027 NEP, kailangan

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005196

po na gawa po nila

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005197

yung CSP at retooled CSP

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005198

ng calendar year 2026.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005199

Saan po nakalista, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005200

good sponsor, kung ano pong listahan

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005201

ng mga community support programs na ito?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005202

Because Madam Speaker, even the answer just that dapat naka-undergo sila ng CSPs still puts into question ano po ba siya and hindi pa nakukomplete yung answer kung ano po ba yung criteria na ito, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005203

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we're just looking at it kasi sa special provision po ng NTF-LCAC, meron ng mga qualified programs under CSP. So may menu din po yung CSP. We're just looking for it po as a special provision to NTF-LCAC.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005204

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005205

Please give us a few seconds, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005206

...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005207

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, my apologies. I would like to clarify my answer earlier. So ang nagsasagawa po ng CSP is DILG. So they conduct the community support program with the different target beneficiary barangays in order for them to determine which of the projects are best suited for that particular barangay.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005208

Tapos yung particular menu po na yun.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005209

Yun yung farm-to-market roads, school building, water and sanitation system, health stations, and electrification. So the whole process of conducting the CSP lies with DILG po. Wala pong visibility yung DBM.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005210

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, na-mention nga po kung ano yung mga CSPs na yun lang po dapat yung saklaw ng BDP. However, sa website po ng NTF-LCAC kung saan pwede pong ilista.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005211

Yung mga BDPs na naimplementa, meron din daw housing or reconstruction at livelihood projects without breakdown of which barangays implemented what. It therefore begs the question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, saan-saan nga ba napunta ang pondo na ito? Natatapos ba ang mga proyekto na ito sa ilalim ng BDP? O tulad ba ito ng ghost or substandard projects na natimbog po natin last year?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005212

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the report as to where the funds went and what programs or projects each barangay got is actually being generated and maintained po by DILG. And that particular report is available in their Subay Bayan portal. So may full list po ng lahat po ng mga projects na napondohan under NTF-LCAC.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005213

Yes po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005214

Sa website, there are items there that are not provided for in that special provision or in the classification of CSPs. As I mentioned po, there's housing, there's reconstruction, and it is not contemplated in the list provided by the good sponsor which said that may form to market roads, school building, water and sanitation system, health stations, and electrification.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005215

So saan po nanggaling yung ibang mga items na ito?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005216

And ano yung role po ng DBM or ng DBCC to ensure na kung ano lang po yung nakalagay sa special provision, yun po yung na-implementa? Kung meron pong nakalista na hindi po nasa loob ng CSP, ano pong karampatang aksyon ang magawa para po macheck kung tama po yung funding?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005217

Thank you very much po for bringing up that point, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005218

Actually, nabanggit din po ng DBM yun na yung monitoring po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005219

Kapat ay nasa DILG, reporting sa kanila. But also, it should be part of the COA audit report. Kung may nakita po na mga proyekto na na-implement na wala po doon sa menu na sinet, kailangan po makall yung attention.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005220

So thank you very much po to our distinguished colleague for bringing that up. We can relay that also to DILG and COA to look into these items po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005221

But to clarify, thank you for answering that. If ever there is feedback on that, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, if it can be written, this representation would like a copy of the feedback kung ano pong explanation kung bakit may ganitong mga items listed sa website na wala naman po sa mga nalistang CSPs. If that's possible, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005222

Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. That would be possible. We'll just have to coordinate with COA and DILG with regard to that. Because as of now po, as per DBM, wala po pong nare-receive na report yung DBM with regard to this. So once available po, we'll share it with our distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005223

But to clarify, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kapag sabi ng barangay na ito ay nasa ilalim or naisip,

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005224

na isagawa yung CSP and therefore they can qualify for funding ng BDP for 2027, ano po ang therefore nakukuha ng DBM para po ma-authorize na sila po ay pwedeng makakuha ng funding ulit for BDP? It's just a list of barangays? Is that the limitation of the visibility of DBM, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005225

Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Even though they're listed separately already in the GAA, at the point of release, kailangan po ulit magsumite ng DILG sa DBM ng patunay. Essentially, they endorse which of the qualified barangays actually already went the CSP and meron ng identified project and plansyado na po lahat ng requirements.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005226

And only then will DBM release the funding for that particular project.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005227

We raise these questions, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, because the NTF-ELCAC, since its establishment and has also been notorious in its reputation internationally, it targets unarmed civilians, progressives, and activists. Kahit po igiit na issued by the DBM in coordination with the NTF-ELCAC and limited po ang visibility ng DBM,

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005228

sa certifications in relation to BDM funds na wala rin pong nahawakan na pera ang NTF-ELCAC mismo, it is upon us as the branch of government with the power of the purse to question where the budget goes.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005229

Hindi natin kinakwestiyon ng pag-unlad o grassroots development. We actually want that, Madam Speaker, good sponsor. What we do not want is conditional development that the BDP of the NTF-ELCAC shows.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005230

O kailangan cleared ka muna bago ka makakakuha ng pondo.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005231

And this representation will move at the proper time to amend the HGAB for the abolition of the BDP and the transferring of the funding directly to schools, housing, and the like.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005232

Because this representation, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is not convinced that the scheme that is being implemented now, wherein DBM has limited visibility para macheck pong ano pong effectivity,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005233

and even yung qualification ng CSP supposedly na nakuha ng previous barangay cleared that entitles them to funding now, should allow for more billions to be funneled in this way.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005234

Kung pwede naman pong nakaayon po ito sa master plan, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005235

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, if there's no response, I'd like to move on to my next line of questioning.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005236

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005237

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, this is now about confidential funds.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005238

Article 2, Section 28 of the 1987 Constitution says that subject to reasonable conditions prescribed by law,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005239

the state adopts and implements a policy of full public disclosure of all its transactions involving public interest.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005240

While Article 3, Section 7 states the right of the people to information on matters of public concern shall be recognized.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005241

However, the General Assembly...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005242

The General Principles and Provisions of House Bill 10585 again authorize lump sum confidential and intelligence appropriations across various agencies of the national government.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005243

And under Joint Circular No. 2015-01 between DBMs, COA, and other agencies, disbursements from these funds are supported by documentary evidence kept in sealed envelopes.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005244

Liquidation is subjected only to post-audit by the COA.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005246

The COA Intelligence and Confidential Fund Audit Unit and a notice of this allowance may be issued years after the fact.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005247

A delay now glaringly exposed as the impeachment proceedings reveal questionable confidential fund disbursements that escape timely scrutiny.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005248

Can the sponsor therefore explain the wisdom of retaining confidential fund provisions in the 2027 GAB and its general principles

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005249

when the existing...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005250

When the existing audit architecture inherently guarantees that illegal or unconstitutional spending can remain concealed for years, defeating the constitutional demand for public accountability, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005251

When the existing audit architecture inherently guarantees that illegal or unconstitutional spending can remain concealed for years, defeating the constitutional demand for public accountability, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005252

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005253

The basis for essentially which outlines the guidelines for allotment of confidential intelligence funds or essentially outlines who are allowed to avail of confidential intelligence funds is outlined in the COA, DBM, DILG, GECG, and DND Joint Circular Number 2015-01.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005254

So there, in Section 4.0, it says that the following are entitled to confidential funds and intelligence funds. So kung iisa-isahin po ba natin, there are…

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005255

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, perhaps no need for that because the good secretary already did that during the budget briefing.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005256

But I am asking, Madam Speaker…

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005257

For the wisdom of the continuing grant of confidential expenses, despite the exposure of the currently flawed architecture that allows the disbursement of confidential expenses,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005258

but when there are illegal or abusive expenses, it can take years before it can be exposed,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005259

which by then, lumabas.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005260

Lumabas na yung funding. Sana na po napunta sa ibang mas deserving na items, but nonetheless, ay pinunta po sa confidential funds.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005261

This is the topic of the daily political diet of Filipinos. Bakit may confidential funds?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005262

So we have an opportunity to engage it in this budget, but it's still here, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005263

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, if you would look at the NEP,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005264

the 2027 NEP, yung whichever agencies had COA findings relating to their confidential and intelligence funds,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005265

wala pong inalocate na CIF sa loob po na 2027 NEP.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005266

The agencies that were given continuing confidential or intelligence funds are those that really have mandates relating to national security.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005267

So, doon po sa ating budget, ang meron lang po is DOF, BOC, DILG-OSEC, DILG-PNP, DOJ-OSEC, DOJ-NBI, AMLAC, ARTA, DND, and DOTR.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005268

So, and the Office of the President.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005269

So, yun lang po. Linimitahan naman na po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005270

So, yung bilang ng mga ahensya, sinigurado po ng DBM sa pagbuo po ng 2027 NEP,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005271

natangin yung mga ahensya lang po talaga na may mandato na related po sa,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005272

na pwede pong lagyan ng kaukalang CIF yung kanila po ninagyan sa budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005273

And no increase po, sorry. Much lower than it was in the previous year.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005274

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005275

Madam Speaker, perhaps we still need to sharply interrogate whose security is actually being served

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005276

in the grant of the confidential expenses of the various agencies mentioned,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005277

but we will reserve those questions to the agencies that are in question.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005278

But nonetheless, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, the answer I'm hearing is that,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005279

yes, there were, there's proof, and nakita natin kung paano naabuso yung confidential expenses.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005280

So, now we mitigated it by ensuring that in the next budget cycle,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005281

yung mga nararapat na lang yung pwedeng gastahan.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005282

But, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, am I interpreting it correctly that, right now,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005283

there is no mechanism to ensure non-abusive confidential fund spending

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005284

other than by leaving it to COA when it receives its audit agency reports

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005285

and submits it to the agency?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005293

And to mitigate it in the next budget cycle when an anomaly has been discovered,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005294

which can happen, you know, years later.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005295

Are there no mechanisms in place that DBCC or the DBM can exercise

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005296

other than what I've specified, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005297

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, yes, the DBCC family recognizes that point,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005298

that at this point, there are, nandun lang po, nasa level lang po nang kuha.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005299

It's really like a post-audit arrangement in terms of CIF.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005300

So, yun po, we recognize that point.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005301

So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, there are no preventive mechanisms in place

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005302

in the existing rules, like in the 2015 Joint Circular,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005303

where questionable plans for spending can be halted,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005304

even though the Confidential Expenses Plan, or Annex A,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005305

is already attached when the request for allocation of confidential expenses

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005306

is submitted to DBM, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005308

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, upon conferring with DBM,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005309

so, the only thing that is submitted to them when the releases are requested

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005310

is something like a physical and financial plan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005311

And even the contents are very vague to the point that they're unable to detect

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005312

at that stage whether there may be issues down the road.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005313

So, admittedly po, because of the nature of the expenses themselves,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005314

naka-sealed envelope.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005315

So, they're not able to validate it at that point.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005316

So, on the part of DBM, during the SARA release,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005317

unfortunately, walang mechanism in place at the moment for them to be able to check.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005318

So, it's really at the part of COA once they do the audit.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005319

Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005320

so, essentially, we hope that COA does a good job.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005321

But at the end of the day, this means that there can be years

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005322

wherein these disbursements,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005323

these disbursements happen at kung naspotan ng COA

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005324

yung anomalous spending,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005325

dito lang po magsisimulang investigasyon

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005326

at dito po magkakaroon ng chance na matignan

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005327

at syempre yung pinakagusto nating mangyari, mabawi.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005328

So, as it stands, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005329

not only does this representation see that confidential expenses, confidential funds,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005330

is not in line with our constitutional principles

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005331

of accountability, of transparency,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005332

of full public disclosure,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005333

of all the state's transactions involving public interests.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005334

We also believe that confidential funds and expenses

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005335

are a relic of opaque governance

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005336

that has no place after the misspending of them has been exposed.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005337

The ongoing implications,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005338

the impeachment proceedings expose how billions in confidential appropriations

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005339

were dispersed with zero real-time accountability,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005340

shielded by sealed envelopes and post-audits that take years to surface.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005341

And I think this is not a mere technical flaw.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005342

This can be a systemic weapon against the people's purse.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005343

We heard that there are moves to amend the rules.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005344

So while we're waiting for that,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005345

we're of the stance that there should be no confidential expenses.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005348

In this budget,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005349

and it should be allocated instead,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005350

to different services that our people

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005351

direly need more.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005352

And while our people starve for health, education,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005353

and housing,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005354

the state entrenches budgetary mechanisms

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005355

that bankroll, surveillance,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005356

red-tagging, and counterinsurgency programs

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005357

like the NAPI-OPD.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005358

And for us, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005359

there is no wisdom in continuing these

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005360

in House Bill 1058.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005361

Public funds must flow to public welfare,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005362

not to secrecy,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005363

see that breeds plunder and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005364

impunity. Madam Speaker, I will

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005365

move, and good sponsor, I will move

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005366

at the appropriate time

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005367

for the proper amendments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005368

which this representation hopes

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005369

that the body considers.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005370

In the meantime, we hope

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005371

that the requested documents may be

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005372

submitted at the proper time

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005373

and this representation

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005374

thanks the indulgence of the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005375

sponsor for their time in

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005376

answering this representation's

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005377

questions. That's all, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005378

Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005379

Thank you very much to the Honorable Reniko.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-005380

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-005380-split-2

Madam Speaker, next

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-005381

to introduce...

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-005382

Madam Speaker, I move to suspend the session

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-005383

for a few minutes.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-005383-split-2

Motion suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-005384

Session suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-005434

Session resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-005435

Madam Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-005436

I move to recognize the Honorable Bong Suntay

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-005437

of the Fourth District of Quezon City.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-005438

Is there any objection? Hearing none, the Honorable Representative Jesus "Bong" Suntay from the Fourth District of Quezon City is recognized.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005439

Madam Speaker, to our good sponsor. Madam Speaker, dahil sa current condition ng ating Chair Mika, I will keep my questions simple so that it will be very easy to answer.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005440

Magsasamahin ko na rin yung tanong ko.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005441

DepDev at saka sa

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005442

DBM para maiklian

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005443

yung oras.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005444

I will limit it to my general concern

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005445

regarding the

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005446

7.2 trillion

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005447

budget. I will not

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005448

no longer go to specifics dahil

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005449

tatagal lang tayo.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005450

In

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005451

2024,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005452

we approved the budget of

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005453

5.76 trillion

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005454

for 2025.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005455

It was 6.3 trillion

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005456

for 2026.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005457

It was 6.7

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005458

93 trillion.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005459

And now,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005460

we are asking for a

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005461

7.2 trillion budget.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005462

My concern

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005463

is not that the 7.2 trillion

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005464

is not mathematically impossible

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005465

to support.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005466

My worry is that,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005467

given the current economic

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005468

situation,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005469

the fiscal space

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005470

supporting it

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005471

has become tight.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005472

Sa ating mga

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005473

sources of revenue,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005474

magkano ang

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005475

projected natin

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005476

na makukuha?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005477

Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005478

my distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005479

first of all, I would like to say thank you

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005480

to our distinguished colleagues,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005481

colleague the Honorable Bong Suntay,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005482

for taking into account

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005483

the very pregnant state

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005484

that I am currently in.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005485

Maraming maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005486

Their response po to the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005487

query for 2027 po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005488

our assumption

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005489

with regard to total revenues as stated

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005490

in the 2027 BASF,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005491

total revenues is at

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005492

5.2 trillion pesos

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005493

and that is a combination

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005494

po of tax and

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005495

non-tax revenues.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005496

Okay, this would be a

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005497

combination from collections

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005498

from the BIR, BOC, and

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005499

non-tax revenues.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005500

But this assumption was based

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005501

on a more

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005502

on a more

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005503

economically

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005504

acceptable backdrop.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005505

Pero nag-iba na po ngayon eh.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005506

Well, assuming that

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005507

we, well,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005508

achieved the 5.2 billion

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005509

target,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005510

based on

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005511

our 2027 government

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005512

fiscal program,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005513

the projected

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005514

cash disbursements

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005515

expect that

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005516

6.9 trillion.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005517

So magkakaroon po tayo

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005518

ng fiscal

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005519

deficit of

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005520

1.695 trillion.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005521

Would that be correct?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005522

That is correct,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005523

for 2027, the projected

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005524

deficit is at 1.69 trillion.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005525

Okay, now so given that

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005526

yung projected revenues

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005527

is pegged at 5.2,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005528

ang ating proposed

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005529

budget obligation naman

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005530

is 7.2,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005531

di kulang po tayo,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005532

magkakaroon tayo ng

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005533

fiscal deficit of around

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005534

1.695.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005535

How do we intend to fund it?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005536

By securing

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005539

A loan.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005540

At what amount?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005541

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005542

Distinguished Colleague,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005543

there is a projected gross borrowing

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005544

of 3.3 trillion pesos

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005545

to be able to fund the deficit po.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005546

Okay.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005547

But the 3.3 points,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005548

3.304 trillion

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005549

is not only to fund

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005550

that budget deficit.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005551

Kasi meron pa tayong

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005552

how much will go to principal

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005553

repayment and amortization?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005554

Hindi kasi nakalagay ng

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005555

nakalagay sa

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005556

sa HGAB natin eh.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005557

And then how much will fall

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005558

for net financing?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005559

Pagkakaroon tayo ng

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005560

3.3 trillion pesos po,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005561

1.69 trillion will go towards

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005562

funding the deficit in the budget.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005563

And the rest po,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005564

the remainder which is also around

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005565

1.5 trillion pesos

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005566

would go towards

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005567

amortization of gross

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005568

external borrowings and amortization

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005569

of gross domestic borrowings.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005570

So 254 billion of that

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005571

would go towards amortization

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005572

of external borrowings.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005573

And 1.3 trillion of that

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005574

would go towards amortization

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005575

of domestic borrowings.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005576

Now, isn't this disconcerning?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005577

While I understand that

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005578

hindi naman laging masama ang

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005579

deficit spending, pero

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005580

pag nagde-deficit spending tayo,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005581

it is supposedly to fund projects

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005582

which may generate long-term yield,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005583

o kaya pagka merong

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005584

economic crisis absorption

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005585

that has to be done.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005586

In fact, if you go back nung

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005587

2010 to 2015,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005588

it was a time of fiscal consolidation

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005589

during the term of

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005590

former President Aquino,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005591

wherein which budget

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005592

deficit was

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005593

minimized from

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005594

0.09 to 2.5%.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005595

During the

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005596

2016 to 2009

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005597

period, during the

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005598

first half of the term of

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005599

former President Duterte,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005600

it was at an average of

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005601

3.5%.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005602

But after nung

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005603

2019, nagkaroon tayo

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005604

ng pandemic,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005605

tapos nun,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005606

that's 2000, well,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005607

2021, 22 naman

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005608

was the rebound, kaya

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005609

tumaas ng unti. Pero

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005610

ngayon,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005611

how

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005612

do we intend to

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005613

be able to

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005614

support such

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005615

budget?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005617

Mr. Speaker, my

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005618

distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005619

we recognize the point of

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005620

our distinguished colleague,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005621

but the goal is to

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005622

do fiscal consolidation

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005623

down the line, and the

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005624

goal is to reduce

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005625

deficit to

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005626

From 5.4 in 2026 to 2030, sorry, just 3.5 in 2030.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005627

How do we intend to do it?

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005628

Dahil if we look at the current economic situation,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005629

we have GDP is down to around 2.4%, inflation is up.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005630

So, paano pa natin maibababa yung, how do we plan to accomplish it?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005631

Kasi ang sakin lang, instead of belt tightening, given the current situation, ito yung concern.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005632

In 2024, the national debt was at 16.5 trillion.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005633

For 2025, it increased to 17.71 trillion.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005634

For 2026, it's now up to 19.39 trillion.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005635

Now, and it will not stop here.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005636

Dahil from the government's own BESF projects, budget expenditures and source of finance,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005637

it presupposes that,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005638

it will go up, the debt will go up to 19.77 trillion at the end of 2026,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005639

and further up to 21.48 trillion at the end of 2027.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005640

Now, dollar now is at, kanina nag-close, I think at 62.80.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005641

We should also factor it in dahil it will have a big effect on debt servicing.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005648

Madam Speaker, my distinguished colleague, upon conferring with economic managers,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005649

really it's fiscal consolidation and really targeting quality spending,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005650

looking at allocating funds.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005652

towards items, programs, projects that have high economic multipliers.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005653

So the goal is for us to be able to leverage on that to accelerate growth.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005654

On the other hand po, with regard to the macroeconomic conditions

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005655

that were cited by our distinguished colleagues,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005656

the projection is that by 2028,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005657

these magre-reverse somehow in a more positive way

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005658

in terms of the macroeconomic factors surrounding it po.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005659

So hopefully, inflation would lessen,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005660

the foreign exchange rate would be more favorable,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005661

the price of fuel will go down.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005662

So with that po, coupled with quality spending,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005663

ma-be-bridge po yung gap doon po sa ating deficit.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005664

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005665

I hope that our economic managers have the same positive view.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005666

Kasi,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005667

if we want to be realistic,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005668

I'm sure that they all know it is unwise

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005669

to go on a big budget deficit spending

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005670

if there is already inflationary pressure.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005671

And pagka hindi nararamdaman ng economic managers natin yung inflationary pressure,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005672

then there's something wrong with our government.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005673

Walang mangyayari sa atin if we do not feel

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005674

that there is economic pressure already dahil

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005675

ano yung ekonomiya,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005676

economic pressure natin.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005677

Sa FDI na lang,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005678

makano yung foreign direct investment natin ngayon?

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005679

From a high of, I think, 9.7 billion way back in 2024,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005680

it's down to 3.4 billion for 2026.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005681

It's a good indicator of investor's confidence in our country.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005682

Now, if we are not concerned about that,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005683

then pupunta tayo, dapat tignan natin yung

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005684

what is the current,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005685

projected inflation natin ngayon.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005686

Diba?

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005687

It's also down.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005688

We projected what?

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005689

It to be at a lower percentage,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005690

but now it's,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005691

nasa 6.1 ba?

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005692

Expected po, inflation is at around 5.4% in 2027.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005693

Yan po yung,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005694

naka-embed po,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005695

na assumption sa budget.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005696

And 3.3 and down to 3.3% in 2028.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005697

Kasi,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005698

kaya ako lang ito,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005699

cause for concern,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005700

if we really look at it,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005701

for the second quarter 2026,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005702

real GDP growth was 2.3%.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005703

August inflation was 6.1%.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005704

Bottom 30% of household inflation was actually 8.2%.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005705

These are concerning data.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005706

Kung titignan talaga natin.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005707

Now, as I mentioned,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005708

we also feel it.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005709

Fuel prices alone is projected to go up to,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005710

diesel prices projected to go up to as high as 100 pesos per liter.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005711

That will have an economic impact.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005712

In fact, makikita nyo,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005713

mas,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005714

less traffic ngayon,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005715

especially yung mga public utility vehicles.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005716

They,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005717

not as much fly the roads anymore.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005718

Dahil,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005719

it's better to stay at home

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005720

dan maglabas ka,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005721

bumiyahi ka dahil hindi ka kikita.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005722

Mr. Speaker,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005723

my distinguished colleague,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005724

on the part of the economic managers,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005725

they assure,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005726

they give the assurance that they review

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005727

these macroeconomic assumptions every three months po.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005728

So, quarterly naman,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005729

depending on the realities that are prevailing,

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005730

in-update naman po nila yung macroeconomic assumptions.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005731

Dahil,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005732

well, yung sakin lang,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005733

we have to look at the indicators.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005734

Is our economy already in its full capacity?

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005735

Given the current rate,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005736

I believe,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005737

mahirap nang tumaas pa yan.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005738

And it will go down,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005739

given the current state.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005740

We're also looking at 2028.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005741

Anong ibig ko sabihin sa 2028?

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005742

It's an election year.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005743

Investors,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005744

both foreign and local,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005745

usually,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005746

they hold on investments.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005747

Dahil, because of political uncertainty.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005748

That is also something that we

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005749

have to consider.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005750

Madali magtaas nang magtaas ng budget

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005751

pagka hindi natin pera yung ginagamit.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005752

Like in a company,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005753

when you run a company,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005754

you don't just like approve a huge budget

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005755

if you know that it cannot be sustained.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005756

Kasi ang nararamdaman,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005757

we have to look at the state of our economy.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005758

It's already, as I mentioned,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005759

full capacity.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005760

Now,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005761

ang problema rin,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005762

as we all know,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005763

excess spending drives up inflation.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005764

So,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005765

kagaya ng sinabi ni Sheck Balizakan,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005766

alam mo naman,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005767

ang economy natin is consumption driven.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005768

It's not money coming from external sources.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005769

It's everyone's money just going around.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005770

So, well, these are my concerns.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005771

Dahil, which, because I would want to see more of the money that we approve

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005772

be used in programs and projects which would pump prime the economy.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005773

Kasi dito sa 7.2 trillion, how much is actually available to pump prime the economy?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005774

And what specific projects ang pupuntahan nito?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005775

Because kagaya yung mga projects which are supposed to pump prime the economy,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005776

North to South Railway, dapat natapos na pero hindi.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005777

Subway natin, tinanggalan natin yan ng, nilagay natin sa amprogram what was already there.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005778

And, ako, saan nilagay?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005779

Nilagay sa ayuda.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005780

But, it does not pump prime the economy.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005781

So, for 2027, saan natin dadalhin?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005782

For 2027 po, for pump priming the economy, we will rely mostly on capital outlay po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005783

and infrastructure spending.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005784

So, as a proportion of the NEP po, we're looking at 1.16 trillion pesos

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005785

which accounts for 16.1% of the NEP.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005786

In terms of specific...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005787

specific projects, medyo malalaki po, but I'll just cite yung mga big-ticket items po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005788

So, we're looking at North-South Commuter Railway at 123.8 billion,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005789

the Metro Manila Subway Project at 67.4 billion,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005790

the bridge program within DPWH, the Bataan-Cavite Interlink Bridge at 22 billion,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005791

Cebu-Bactan Bridge at 8 billion,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005792

Metro Manila Priority Bridges for 3.7 billion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005793

There's also, under the Network Development Program po,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005794

several projects that would total 52 billion.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005795

And meron din po ang flood management program na FAPs po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005796

at totaling 17 billion pesos po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005797

So, ito po yung mga big-ticket items that we hope to see.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005798

So, that would pump prime the economy.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005799

You mentioned the 16.1% of the budget.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005800

Ito, well, actually, yung computation would be,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005801

if I'm correct, is 7.2 trillion minus the 6.40 trillion

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005802

that leaves us with yung 1.16 trillion for capital outlay.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005803

Pero pagtitignan mo, that's just, it just translates to

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005804

16 centavos for every

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005805

peso that goes into

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005806

capital

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005807

assets, which is

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005808

also very small. Pag tinignan mo

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005809

rin yung portion of the budget

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005810

that goes into debt servicing,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005811

for every

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005812

6 pesos, 1 peso

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005813

goes to debt servicing. So,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005814

roughly 12 centavos

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005815

of

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005816

every peso goes to it.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005817

So,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005818

well,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005819

yung

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005820

we're using the North to South

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005821

Railway to

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005822

justify that it will

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005823

pump prime economy.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005824

But the North to South Railway

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005825

cannot be

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005826

utilized until, I think,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005827

2032.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005828

We're talking about

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005829

2027.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005830

Even the subway

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005831

is not meant to

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005832

to,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005833

we won't be able to utilize

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005834

it for 2027.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005835

So, ano talaga yung

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005836

what will

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005837

pump prime the economy? Not all roads

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005838

built

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005839

translates to

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005840

a share in the economic

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005841

recovery. It doesn't

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005842

follow.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005843

Taka gumawa ka ng kalsada going to

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005844

nowhere, then it doesn't contribute

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005845

to anything.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005846

Madam Speaker, my distinguished

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005847

colleague, in the cases kasi po

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005848

of big infrastructure projects,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005849

malaki po yung economic multiplier

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005850

niya in terms of, one,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005851

the jobs generated,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005852

and then, particularly

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005853

po for North-South

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005854

Commuter Railway, the goal po is to

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005855

have partial operability by

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005856

end of 2027. So,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005857

mag-open na po yung mga

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005858

segments, ito po mga big ticket

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005859

projects na ito. So, malaki po yung

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005860

maitutulong niya in terms of

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005861

transportation and

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005862

being able to spur growth in the

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005863

adjacent areas to Metro Manila.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005864

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005865

good sponsor. Actually,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005866

during the DOTR

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005867

budget consultation,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005868

when I asked them kung

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005869

kailan mapapanda, it was not

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005870

2027. They were hopeful

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005871

na

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005872

best case scenario, maaring

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005873

2028, but

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005874

not 2027.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005875

Which,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005876

which is,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005877

well, points to consider.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005878

But,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005879

yung sakin lang is,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005880

even to

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005881

the economic managers,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005882

question of,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005883

can the economy realistically

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005884

carry

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005885

this budget?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005886

I think we owe it to the Filipino

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005887

people to ask this very

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005888

question. Kaya ba

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005889

talagang i-sustain?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005890

O, ang gagawin lang natin

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005891

next year, mangungutang na naman tayong

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005892

mas malaki because we have to

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005893

service more debt.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005894

And then,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005895

malulunod lang tayo sa utang.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005896

Why is it my concern?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005897

For 2027,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005898

the government,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005899

the government's fiscal program

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005900

on recovery

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005901

pegged GDP growth

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005902

at 5 to 6 percent.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005903

And 4 to 5

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005904

percent inflation. We all know

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005905

that will not happen. Inflation will

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005906

shoot up next year.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005907

GDP will not go up

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005908

next year.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005909

Ngayon pa lang, nararamdaman na nang

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005910

if you talk to big

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005911

or big,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005912

well, the big businessmen in our

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005913

country, lahat

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005914

sila ify

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005915

to add new investments.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005916

So,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005917

parang hopeful yung target

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005918

natin. Given

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005919

that for the second quarter of

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005920

2026, real GDP growth

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005921

was 2.3 percent.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005922

August inflation,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005923

6.1 percent as I stated.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005924

Second quarter of

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005925

gross capital formation was

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005926

negative 9.2 percent.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005927

Foreign direct investment

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005928

fell

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005929

to 3.3

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005930

billion dollars.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005931

Debt to GDP,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005932

66 percent.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005933

Ah, yes.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005934

In

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005935

outstanding debt,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005936

19.39 trillion.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005937

Now, kung rosy yung

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005938

outlook nyo, given this

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005939

economic

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005940

backdrop,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005941

may problema tayo.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005948

Madam Speaker, my distinguished colleague, if we would look at the growth in the budget from 2026 to 2027,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005949

while in nominal terms, nag-increase po siya by 6%, in real terms po, hindi siya nag-increase.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005950

So actually, hindi po na siya in-increase because of the current situation.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005951

But looking at the debt projections po, if we look at the general government debt to GDP projections from 2026 to 2030,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005952

which we can use as an indicator of the sustainability of our debt levels,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005953

the goal po is for it to reduce from 58.6% to 56.1%, which is below the 70% benchmark po for the general government debt to GDP ratio.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005954

So the goal po is little by little through fiscal consolidation and quality spending,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005955

which would hopefully spur growth, we'll be able to bridge the deficit po and make sure the debt is sustainable.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005956

Well, yung sustainability of our national debt, maaaring nating tanggapin yung binigay mo, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005957

If ang binabangga natin,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005958

is yung debt servicing vis-a-vis na 7.2 national budget.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005959

But if we, pero dapat ibangga natin yung debt servicing natin dun sa ano eh,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005960

sa projected revenues na 5.2%, dahil hindi naman nakakadagdag sa ekonomiya natin yung mga ibang kinargahan nung ano eh,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005961

nung 7.2 eh, lalo na yung...

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005962

So, lalampas ka nung ano eh.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005963

Lalampas ka sa 30% to 40% na acceptable eh.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005964

Because interest now, interest payment consumes a bigger share of the revenue.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005965

Pagka umapak ng 30% to 40%, then...

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005966

It's a, it's a red flag.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005967

Thank you.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005968

Madam Speaker, my distinguished colleague, the goal is to make sure that the borrowings go towards quality spending such that it can expand production capacity.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005969

Kasi po, speaking to DOF, it looks like we won't be able to generate revenues as much given the current parameters.

Source

Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005970

So talaga pong we will have to rely on us being able to expand our production capacity.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-005971

Through quality spending of whichever we're borrowing at the moment.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005972

I understand. That's why I've been asking kung ano yung quality spending na yun eh.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005973

Because I was looking for it dun sa HGAB natin.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005974

And hindi ko talaga mahanap yung punto na yun eh.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005975

We have to understand that the 2027 budget assumes...

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005976

A fairly significant economic rebound.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005977

Kaya nga, 7.2 trillion yung hinihingi, ang prinupose.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005978

And kaya nga, sinasabi ngayon na kaya natin gawin yun.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005979

Now assuming if the economy grows only 2 to 3%, rather than the 5 to 6%, which is projected, ano mangyayari sa atin?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005980

Kunyari mag-maintain tayo for next year, 2027.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005981

2 to 3% lang ang growth rate natin.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005982

Not the 5 to 6% which is projected to support the 7.2 trillion budget.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005983

Three things will happen.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005984

Kasi three things becomes increasingly difficult.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005985

Simultaneously hitting the 5.2 trillion in revenues, reducing the deficit to GDP ratio, and preventing the debt ratio from increasing further.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005986

Ang magiging choice lang ng gobyerno,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005987

Madam Chair, good sponsor,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005988

paka nangyari yan, paka 2 to 3% lang tayo,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005989

ang magiging choice lang ng gobyerno is to borrow more money for 2028,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005990

raise additional revenues from taxes,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005991

reduce expenditures,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005992

or i-delay natin o i-hold yung mga appropriated spending.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005993

That's the only way that you would be able to control it.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005994

But...

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005995

Would that be feasible?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005996

Well, Madam Chair, good sponsor,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005997

I just want to remind everyone that

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005998

on the part of debt, foreign debt, or our national debt,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-005999

debt sustainability increasingly depends on government converting borrowed money into productive

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006000

income.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006001

So, that's the only way that you would be able to control it.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006003

But if we do not do it,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006004

nga gastusin lang natin for recurring expenditures, kagaya pagkatinignan mo,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006005

dito sa 7.2 trillion,

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006006

tignan natin yung breakdown.

Source

Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006007

1.982 trillion is for personal services,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006008

2.944 trillion is for MOUE,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006009

1.114 trillion is for interest and financial expenses.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006010

So,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006011

as correctly pointed out by Chair Mica,

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006012

what is left is 1.160 trillion for capital expenditure.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006013

And if that 1.160 trillion is not allocated properly for projects that will prime our economy...

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006014

Representative Suntay, can you wrap up?

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006015

Thank you. Madam Speaker, as I mentioned, pinagsama-sama na natin ito na 30 minutes each.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006016

Yung sa DepDev, saka sa DBM, yung unang 30 minutes ko tapos na. Isang oras na lang ang matitira.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006017

Madam Chair, good sponsor. Maraming maraming salamat to.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006018

As I mentioned, I just needed to point this out because it is truly a cause for concern dahil kawawa naman yung susunod na henerasyon pagka palaki lang ng palaki yung utang at hindi naman natin kayang bayaran na o hindi kayang isustain ng ating ekonomiya.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006019

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-006020

Thank you, Honorable Suntay.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-006021

Quick response lang po, Madam Speaker. Very quick lang po.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-006022

So, it's really going to be a combination of qualities.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-006023

Depending on infrastructure projects and other items with economic multipliers and at the same time po, high economic multipliers and at the same time po, investments in human capital development.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-006024

Hopefully po, the combination of both would help expand our production capacity and spur economic growth and hopefully that would help narrow down the deficit.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing

asr-006025

But we recognize the points raised by the Honorable Bong Suntay. Maraming maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay

asr-006026

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006027

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006028

Madam Speaker, I move to

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006029

recognize the Honorable Sergio Dagooc.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006030

Is there any objection? Hearing none.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006031

Honorable Dagoog is recognized.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006032

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006033

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006034

Madam Speaker, there being no other members from the minority who wish to interpellate,

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006035

I move to terminate the interpellation of the general principles

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006036

and provisions of House Bill 10858.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006037

I so move, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006038

What does the House say?

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006040

Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006041

minority in the motion to terminate the debate of general principles and provisions.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006042

There is a joint motion to terminate the debate on general principles and provisions.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006051

Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006052

The chair hears none.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006053

The interpellation and debate is now terminated.

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Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-006054

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006055

Madam Speaker, I move to suspend consideration

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006056

of House Bill No. 10858.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006057

Consideration of House Bill

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006058

No. 10858

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006059

is hereby suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006060

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006061

Madam Speaker, I move that we take up additional reference of business

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006062

and request the Secretary General

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006063

to read the title of the bills

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006064

and resolutions on first reading

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006065

as well as communications and committee reports.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006066

The Secretary is directed

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006067

to read the title of the bill.

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Secretary-General

asr-006068

Additional reference of business.

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Secretary-General

asr-006069

Message from the Senate.

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Secretary-General

asr-006070

Message dated

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Secretary-General

asr-006071

September 14, 2026

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Secretary-General

asr-006072

informing the House that on an even date

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Secretary-General

asr-006073

the Senate passed the following Senate bills

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Secretary-General

asr-006074

in which it requests

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Secretary-General

asr-006075

the concurrence of the House.

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Secretary-General

asr-006076

Senate Bill 2272

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Secretary-General

asr-006077

on the proposed Expanded National

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Secretary-General

asr-006078

Nutrition Program Act.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006079

To the Committee on Basic Education

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006080

and Culture.

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Secretary-General

asr-006081

Senate Bill

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Secretary-General

asr-006082

1926

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Secretary-General

asr-006083

on the proposed

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Secretary-General

asr-006084

Child Tourist Safety Act

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Secretary-General

asr-006085

or Sandys Act.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006086

To the Committee on Tourism.

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Secretary-General

asr-006087

Senate Bill 2421

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Secretary-General

asr-006088

on the proposed adequate

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Secretary-General

asr-006089

and decent housing through

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Secretary-General

asr-006090

[unclear] Act.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006091

To the Committee on Housing and Urban Development.

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Secretary-General

asr-006092

Senate Bill

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Secretary-General

asr-006093

2387

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Secretary-General

asr-006094

fixing the term of Office of Barangay Officials

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Secretary-General

asr-006095

and Members of the Sangudinang Kabataan

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Secretary-General

asr-006096

to five years

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Secretary-General

asr-006097

amending Republic Act No. 12232

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Secretary-General

asr-006098

or an Act setting the term of Office

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Secretary-General

asr-006099

of Barangay Officials and Members of the Sangudinang Kabataan

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Secretary-General

asr-006100

and for other purposes.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006101

To the Committee on Local Government.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006102

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006103

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006104

in accordance with the rules governing inquiries

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006105

in aid of legislation,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006106

I move to refer the following House resolutions

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006107

to the appropriate committees.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006108

House Resolution 1429

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006109

to the Committees on Energy,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006110

Visayas Development,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006111

and Legislative Franchises.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006112

House Resolution 1430

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006113

to the Committees on Energy,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006114

Visayas Development and Legislative Franchises.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006115

And House Resolution 1439

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006116

to the Committees on Energy,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006117

Visayas Development,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006118

and Legislative Franchises.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006119

Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006120

Hearing none, the motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006121

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006122

Madam Speaker, I move for the change of referral

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006123

of House Resolutions Nos.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006124

1024,

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006125

1031

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006126

and 1114.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006127

From the Committees on Energy and Legislative Franchises

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006128

to the Committees on Energy, Visayas Development

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006129

and Legislative Franchises.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006130

Is there any objection? Hearing none.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006131

Motion is approved.

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006132

Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session

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Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-006133

for a few minutes.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006134

Motion suspended.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006172

Madam Speaker, I move that we resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858, and for this purpose request the Secretary General to read the title of the bill.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006173

The Secretary General is directed to read the title of the bill.

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Secretary-General

asr-006174

House Bill 10858, An Act Appropriating Funds for the Operation of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines from January 1 to December 31, 2027.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006175

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006176

Madam Speaker, the parliamentary status of the bill is that we are in the period of sponsorship and debate.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006177

Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006178

We consider the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006179

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006180

Including the attached agency.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006181

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006182

Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006183

Secretary Arsenio Balisacan, Usec Rosemarie Edillon, Usec Dennis Mapa, Usec Joseph Capuno,

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006184

Usec Melbourne Ziro Pana, Usec Glenda Rumohr, Asec Reynaldo Cancio, Asec Roderick Planta, Asec Agnes Tolentino,

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006185

Executive Director Lisa Grace Bersales, Senior VP Magdalena Mendoza, President Philip Arnold Tuanyo,

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006186

Executive Director Donald James Gaue, Executive Director Josefina Almeda, Chairperson Mary Lou Mendoza, and Deputy Executive Director Eleazer E. Ricote.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006187

We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials from the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006188

Welcome to the House of Representatives.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006189

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006190

Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006191

Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006192

Hearing none, motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006193

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006194

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006195

Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006196

Representative Bella Suansing, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, is hereby recognized.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006197

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006198

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues, this representation has the great privilege of sponsoring the proposed budget

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006199

of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006200

The Department of Economy, Planning, and Development, or DepDev, and its attached agencies for fiscal year 2027, amounting to 18.474 billion pesos.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006201

As a primary policy, planning, coordinating, and monitoring arm of the national government, DEPDev has continually assured the formulation of policies that pursue the objectives of the Philippine Development Plan 2023?2028

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006202

to shepherd economic

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006203

and social transformation through productive and strategic investments in the country?s social and economic sectors.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006204

At a time when our country faces external headwinds that raise challenges to each segment of Philippine society,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006205

it is incumbent upon our government and this Congress

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006206

to assure the continued operations of DEPDev in pursuit of its mandate

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006207

to facilitate policies that encourage local investment,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006211

coordinate

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006212

the vertical and horizontal alignment

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006213

and coherence of national and

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006214

subnational policies, plans, and programs,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006215

and to generate impartial,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006216

objective, and

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006217

evidence-based policy analysis and recommendations.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006218

It is then

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006219

the humble appeal of this representation

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006220

for this Chamber to support the immediate

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006221

passage of the proposed fiscal year

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006222

2027 budget of the Department of

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006223

Economy, Planning, and Development.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006224

This representation is ready

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006225

to answer questions and look forward to

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006226

very productive discussions.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006227

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006228

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006229

Madam Speaker, I move that we

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006230

recognize the Honorable J.C.

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006231

Abalos of the

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006232

4Ps Party-list to interpellate

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Rep. Jeyzel Victoria C. Yu

asr-006233

on the proposed budget of DEPDev.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006234

Is there any objection? Hearing none.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006235

Representative Abalos is recognized.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006236

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006237

distinguished sponsor sa

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006238

DEPTEV, pati sa kanyang mga naka-akibat

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006239

na ahensya, magandang-magandang

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006240

gabi po. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006241

will the distinguished sponsor yield to a few

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006242

questions?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006243

Yes, gladly, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006244

Maraming maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006245

distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006246

For the information of the distinguished sponsor

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006247

as well as the DEPTEV,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006248

ikatlong budget cycle na po ito, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006249

na nais ko pong magtanong

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006250

tungkol sa community-based monitoring

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006251

system na pinapangunahan

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006252

ng Philippine Statistics Authority.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006253

Noong

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006254

2019, Madam Speaker, ipinasan

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006255

natin ang Republic Act No. 11315,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006256

o ang Community-Based

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006257

Monitoring System Act.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006258

Simula noon, taon-taon

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006259

ay naglalaan ang gobyerno

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006260

ng pondo para maitayo, ma-implement,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006261

ma-validate, at magamit

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006262

ang sistemang ito. And, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006263

hindi po maliit ang halaga

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006264

na pinag-uusapan natin tungkol

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006265

diton. Para lamang sa

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006266

2024 nationwide operation

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006267

ng POPCEN CBMS,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006268

bilyong-bilyong piso ang

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006269

inilaan para sa CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006270

At ngayong 2027,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006271

humihingi na naman tayo ng humigit-

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006272

kumulang

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006273

5.06 billion para sa CBMS, para sa panibagong cycle.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006274

Unang-una, pwede po ba ito kumpirmahin ng ating sponsor

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006275

na may halagang mahigit kumulang 5.06 billion para sa CBMS for year 2027?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006276

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006277

Madam Speaker, would the distinguished sponsor also confirm

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006278

that for year 2024 when the POPCEN CBMS was conducted,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006279

meron rin ditong budget na nakaalan na humigit kumulang 5 billion piso din?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006280

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006281

Ang 2027, 10 billion na agad to.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006282

So nais ko po malaman, Madam Chair,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006283

mula nung naisabatas ang CBMS,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006284

magkano na po ang total appropriations na ininvest ng ating pamahalaan sa CBMS?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006285

Madam Speaker, perhaps we could stop my time as we wait for the response from the sponsor.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006286

Yes.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006287

And then from 2024...

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006348

Madam Speaker, so from 2019 to 2023, given that we were only doing pilot programs for the CBMS, 500 million po yung inallocate natin for the CBMS.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006349

And then for 2024, mayroon na pong 5 billion kasi full-fledged na po yung pag-implement because it was a census year. We conducted the census in 2024, so for 2025 and 2026, again 500 million annually.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006350

And then for 2027, since we're also conducting the census for 2027, 5 billion din po ang i-allocate.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006351

Maraming salamat po, distinguished sponsor. So, uulitin ko lang po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006352

Kung sakaling papayagan po natin na bigyan muli ng mahigit 5 bilyong piso ang CBMS,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006353

ang ibig sabihin ito, mula nung naisabatas ang CBMS, magkakaroon po tayo ng more than 10 billion pesos that will be allocated to the CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006354

Just one thing I want to make clear here, Madam Speaker. Hindi po ako tutol sa CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006355

As a matter of fact, I fully support it.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006356

When the CBMS Act was enacted into law, I thought that this would be a time wherein this would usher a new era

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006357

kung saan meron po tayong data-driven at evidence-based governance.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006358

Kaya nga po mula naging membro ako ng Kongreso, taon-taon, parating ko po tinatanong kung ano yung mga nagiging accomplishment ng CBMS

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006359

dahil nagsisilbi po itong gabay, hindi lamang sa LGU, kung hindi, sa bawat ahensya po ng pamahalaan.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006360

Ngayon, ngayong nalaman po natin ang potential investment natin sa CBMS, gusto ko po malaman, Madam Speaker, kung ano ang nakuha natin kapalit nito.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006361

Uulitin ko po, Madam Speaker, we've spent more than 5 billion pesos for the CBMS and we're looking to invest 5 billion pesos more.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006362

It's very important for us to know kung ano ang kabalitan.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006363

Kung ano ang buoang investment na makukuha natin kapalit nito.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006364

Unang-una, Madam Speaker, importante ang CBMS dahil hindi nakuhulaan ng gobyerno kung saan ang kahirapan.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006365

Hindi na kanyang-kanyang listahan ang bawat ahensya.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006366

Hindi na dapat may hiwalay na listahan ang DSWD, ang ibang departamento, at ibang listahan ng LGU na hindi nagtutugma.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006367

Kaya po ipinasa ang CBMS Act para magkaroon tayo ng ehem.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006368

Updated, disaggregated, household level information na maaaring gamitin ng national government at local government

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006369

para malaman natin sino sa ating populasyon, sino sa pamayanan ang nangangailangan, nasaan sila, ano ang kailangan nila,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006370

at saan dapat mapunta ang limitadong pondo ng gobyerno.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006371

And after all these years, and after all these billions allocated, magandang malaman po natin, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006372

kung na-deliverance.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006373

Mag-deliver ba natin ang pangakong yun?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006374

Madam Speaker, as I've said, taon-taon po natin sinusubaybayan ang CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006375

As a matter of fact, during the deliberations for the 2025 budget, if my recollection is correct,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006376

the PSA said, on the plenary, as we were deliberating its budget, noong 2025, 70% completed ang CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006377

And during that time, they even provided us original targets.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006378

This is all on the record, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006379

They said, October or December 2024, tatapusin na nila.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006380

Ngunit, hindi nasunod.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006381

And then during the succeeding budget deliberations, last year, August last year,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006382

sinabi po sa atin na completed na ang 2024 CBMS covering approximately 26.3 million households.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006383

Could the distinguished sponsor?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006384

Could the distinguished sponsor confirm this?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006385

This is all on the record, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006386

Sinabi po sa atin ng PSA last year,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006387

kumpleto na ang CBMS covering 26.3 million households.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006388

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006389

Just to the first point,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006390

we are one with our distinguished colleague that it's actually one of the mandates of the DepDep.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006391

It's supposed to generate,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006392

impartial and evidence-based analysis and programs that pursue national development.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006393

So that is precisely the reason why we establish a CBMS.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006394

Just with regards to the accomplishments of the CBMS,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006395

this is from, according to the PSA,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006396

26.9 million households were collected information from,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006397

yeah, from out of the 29.7 million total households.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006398

So that's 91%.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006399

After that,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006400

and 2.9 million households were then identified as poor.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006401

Another 2.5 million households were identified as near poor.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006402

So,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006403

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006404

could the distinguished sponsor confirm kung last year during the plenary budget deliberations,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006405

the PSA mentioned here in the plenary that the CBMS was completed,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006406

covering more than 26 million households.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006407

This is all in the record.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006408

And gusto ko lang ito.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006409

And gusto ko lang po i-confirm ng distinguished sponsor na

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006410

yun po ang naging representation ng PSA dito sa Kongreso.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006411

Kompleto na daw siya as of last year.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006412

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006413

We confirm that we did indeed say that the CBMS was complete.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006414

All data was transmitted to the DSWD for their evaluation on the conditionality.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006415

Of course, for the assessments and so that they can be guided in terms of

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006416

what programs to evaluate.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006417

What programs to institute.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006418

With that being said,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006419

the data that was collected because the CBMS was completed

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006420

was used for the following DSWD programs,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006421

the four-piece program,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006422

the walang gutom program,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006423

the social pension,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006424

and the uplift beneficiaries which we ruled out because of the fuel crisis.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006425

That's only for 2026.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006426

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006427

and if I also remember correctly,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006428

binanggit rin po ng PSA sa atin dito,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006429

last year,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006430

hindi lamang DSWD ang nag-request ng datos na ito.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006431

At sinabi po ito ng budget sponsor last year.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006432

Sinabi nila na noong,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006433

for year 2026,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006434

may mga ahensya po,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006435

hindi lamang DSWD,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006436

kundi kasama dito ang DA, DOE,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006437

TESDA,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006438

NCSC,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006439

DepEd,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006440

DOLE,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006441

DOH,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006442

kung saan naghihingi po sila ng datos.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006443

So hindi lamang DSWD programs dito.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006444

As a matter of fact,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006445

the CBMS is the backbone

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006446

of all our programs.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006447

Ito po yung datos na mag-guide,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006448

hindi lamang sa ating mga policy makers,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006449

kung hindi,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006450

pati sa implementers ng ating mga programs.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006451

And could the distinguished sponsor confirm this?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006452

Hindi lamang DSWD,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006453

kundi lahat ng iba't ibang ahensya ng pamahalaan.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006454

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006455

As a matter of fact,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006456

besides all of the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006457

agencies mentioned by our distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006458

so that's DSWD,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006459

DA,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006460

DOE,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006461

PhilHealth,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006462

DOLE,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006463

the National Commission on Senior Citizens,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006464

so this is for the social attention,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006465

the DepEd,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006466

the TESDA,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006467

the DOH,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006468

and the National Council on Disability Affairs.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006469

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006470

gusto ko po malaman,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006471

ano ba ang definition ng Philippine Statistics Authority

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006472

kung sinabi nila na completed na ang CBMS?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006473

Kasi last year sinabi nila,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006474

completed na,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006475

covering 26.3 million households.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006476

Let me remind everyone once again,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006477

limang bilyong piso ang ginastos natin dito.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006478

And it's not just about the collection of data eh.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006479

Ang makalaga dito kung paano ginagamit ang datos na ito,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006480

lalong-lalo na na pinaplano natin ang budget ng buong pamahalaan.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006481

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006482

the definition of the completion of the CBMS is that

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006483

all data has been gathered,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006484

all data has been transmitted to the respective agencies

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006485

and also to all of the LGUs.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006486

So, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006487

just to clarify ah,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006488

when the PSA says that the CBMS was completed,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006489

kasama dito yung enumeration,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006490

data collection,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006491

processing,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006492

validation,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006493

turnover,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006494

at dahil nagagamit na talaga siya

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006495

ng mga ahensya ng pamahalaan,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006496

pati ng mga LGU?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006497

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006498

Okay.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006499

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006500

so to recall,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006501

last year,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006502

sinabi ng PSA

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006503

that they have completed the CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006504

We've spent more than 5 billion pesos for this.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006505

Meron po ako ditong sulat mismo.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006506

Mula sa Philippine Statistics Authority,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006507

dated June 26, 2026,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006508

addressed to the Committee on Poverty Alleviation.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006509

According to that letter, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006510

1,499 out of 1,628 cities and municipalities

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006511

or 92% had received their respective 2024 CBMS data files.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006512

Meaning, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006513

kahit na sinasabi ng PSA na kompleto na ang CBMS,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006514

it appears that 129 LGUs had still not received their data.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006515

So, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006516

kung sinabi natin noong 2025 last year na complete na siya,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006517

pero pagdating ng June this year,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006518

meron pa tayong 129 LGUs na naghihintay pa rin,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006519

ano po talaga ang ibig sabihin ng complete, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006524

perhaps we could pause my time as we wait for her response.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006533

Could our distinguished colleague please repeat the date of the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006539

letter that you received?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006540

June 16,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006541

2026.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006542

Thank you, Madam

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006543

Speaker. Thank you, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006544

As of now, as for the PSA, all

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006545

1,604

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006546

LGUs have

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006547

received the data for the CBMS.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006548

Partly the reason why

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006549

probably as of

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006550

June, around

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006551

129

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006552

LGUs have yet to receive their

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006553

CBMS data

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006554

is that one of the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006555

requirements for the LGUs

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006556

before they receive

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006557

the CBMS data would be

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006558

the existence or the designation

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006559

of a National Privacy Officer.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006560

Sorry, a Data Privacy Officer

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006561

for the National Privacy Commission.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006562

So that might be one of the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006563

reasons why as of June, there

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006564

was a delay. But now, we

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006565

can confirm, as per

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006566

the PSA, that all 1,604

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006567

LGUs have received

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006568

their CBMS data.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006569

Madam Speaker, so is it safe to say

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006570

that all LGUs

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006571

already have a final and

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006572

usable CBMS

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006573

data set?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006574

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006575

May na-monitor po ba, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006576

ng PSA kung

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006577

ilang LGU ang

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006578

aktual nang gumagamit ng CBMS

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006579

para sa local planning, budgeting,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006580

investment programming, and beneficiary

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006581

targeting? Pati na rin po sa

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006582

ating mga national government,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006583

government agencies, pati sa mga departments.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006584

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006585

Besides that, the PSA also conducts

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006586

trainings for local employees

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006587

and also monitoring

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006588

of their processes.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006589

Can the PSA furnish

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006590

to this representation kung ano yung

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006596

monitoring mechanisms ninyo at kung ano-ano

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006597

mga LGU ang gumagamit nito

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006598

at kung ano-ano mga departamento

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006599

ang gumagamit ng CBMS data sets.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006600

Yes, Madam Speaker. The agency

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006601

will comply.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006601-split-2

Going back to the letter

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006602

that was furnished to the Committee on Poverty

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006603

on Poverty Alleviation, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006604

sinabi rin po ng

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006605

PSA na nagkaroon muna ng

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006606

presentation sa LGUs

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006607

prior to data sharing

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006608

to ensure accuracy. Is this correct,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006609

Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006610

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006611

Maaari ko po ba malaman kung ano po

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006612

ang ginagawa sa mga during these

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006613

presentations?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006614

Pagbibigay po ako ng halimbawa, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006615

Nagpapakita ba tayo ng aggregated

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006616

data? Kunwari,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006617

mayor, ganitong percentage ng

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006618

households ninyo ang walang

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006619

access sa tubig.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006620

Ganon po ba yung parang

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006621

proseso, yun pa yung mga data. Could the

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006622

distinguished sponsor elaborate on

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006623

this process para lang meron tayong idea

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006624

kung gaano kahalaga ang CBMS?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006625

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006626

So, in the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006627

presentation of CBMS data

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006628

to our LGUs or LSEs,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006629

the PSA,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006630

the representatives,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006631

furnish or present

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006632

tables. So, these are the products

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006633

of the surveys.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006634

Like a summary

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006635

of, like,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006636

targeted municipal-level data.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006637

And then, the LCEs

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006638

and all of the local

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006639

officials and employees present,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006640

then, give feedback to the PSA

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006641

with regards to

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006642

the data, whether or not

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006643

this is accurate

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006644

or not. And then,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006645

it's a continuous feedback mechanism

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006646

on the part of the PSA and the LGUs.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006647

Madam Speaker, babalikan ko lang po ulit, no?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006648

Kasi hanggang ngayon, hindi ko pa rin po maunawaan

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006649

kung bakit last year

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006650

sinabi ng PSA,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006651

na na-turnover na nila

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006652

lahat ng CBMS data.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006653

Tapos ngayon, sasabihin nila na

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006654

parang ngayon lang siya nangyari.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006655

But, I feel like, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006656

na parang nagkaroon ng misrepresentation

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006657

sa akin. Nung nakaraang taon,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006658

nung sinabi ng PSA, na completed

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006659

na nila. When, as a matter of fact,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006660

they sent a letter to the Committee on Poverty

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006661

Elevation this year,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006662

saying that not all LGUs have received

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006663

their CBMS datasets. So, can we

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006664

get some clarification on the

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006665

representation that this,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006666

the PSA mentioned during the

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006667

budget deliberations last year?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006668

Perhaps we could pause my time

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006669

as we wait for a response.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006671

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006672

Just to clarify,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006673

just to do a step-by-step. So,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006674

after the presentation of the tables

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006675

to the LGUs,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006676

the LECEs,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006677

at the,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006678

on the spot, there has to be

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006679

a data privacy officer.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006680

If not, then

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006681

the CBMS

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006682

data, which already

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006683

is completed, cannot be

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006684

fully turned over.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006685

Madam Speaker, why didn't the PSA mention this

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006686

to us last year?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006687

Kaya po ito napaka-importante sa akin, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006688

dahil ngayong 20th Congress,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006689

nagpasa po ako ng resolution,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006690

nagbigay ako ng privilege speech,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006691

dahil natuklasan ko na hindi pa pala

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006692

tapos yung CBMS. Kahit na sinabi nila

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006693

last year, natapos na siya.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006694

So, yung sa akin lang po, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006695

sana, sinabi ng PSA ito

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006696

sa atin, nung nakaraang taon,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006697

para maiwasan natin yung mga ganitong problema.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006698

So, yung tanong ko po, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006699

ba't ngayon lang nila sa atin sinasabi

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006700

na may mga data privacy compliances

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006701

kaya hindi pa na ito turn over?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006702

When? They could have said that during the budget

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006703

deliberations last year.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006704

Yes, we understand, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006705

the concern of our distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006706

Really, from the 2025 deliberations,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006707

it was really because of this requirement

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006708

for the data privacy officers,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006709

which we thought would not be a hindrance

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006710

to the full turnover of CBMS data.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006711

And that's the reason why

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006712

at the time,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006713

the requirement wasn't

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006714

fully implemented.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006715

And then,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006716

over the course of

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006717

the turnover to the LGUs,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006718

it became a requirement.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006719

Madam Speaker, ano po ang measured error rate

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006720

ng CBMS?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006721

Ilan ang duplicate?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006722

Ilan ang missing household?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006723

Ilan ang maliang household composition?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006724

Ilan maliang employment status?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006725

ilan ang maling socioeconomic information, may mga tao ba sa database na sinasabing patay na pero buhay pa pala.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006726

Gusto ko pong malaman dahil napaka-importante po nito habang pinaplano natin ang budget ng bawat departamento na umaasa sa datos.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006727

At napaka-importante po, Madam Speaker ng CBMS, dahil isa po itong gabay para sigurado tayo na ang mga pulisiyan natin sinasalamin niya ang pangangailangan ng pamayanan.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006728

Madam Speaker, so the CBMS is a census.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006729

So after which the census is conducted, the PSA then checks with the death registry.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006730

So that is the way in which we check at least for the deaths recorded.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006731

Yes, but in terms of the margin of error,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006732

it's really a continuous back-to-forth, I think it's a case-by-case basis regarding which constituency or which area, which jurisdiction would be subject to this.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006733

So up to now, Madam Speaker, wala pa po tayong precise number kung ano yung margin of error dun sa mga datos na nakokolekta natin mula sa CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006734

Wala po tayong error rate, wala po tayong metric or data sa mga kinokolekta natin kung mayroong erroneous na entry.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006735

Wala po tayong idea.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006736

Yes, just to clarify, Madam Speaker, the CBMS is a census, it's not a survey.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006737

So it's literally a collection of data.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006738

Madam Speaker, pwede ko po ba malaman, ano yung pinakamatandang household record na ginagamit pa rin ngayon bilang current CBMS information?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006739

For example, gusto ko po malaman, Madam Speaker, ano yung average or median age?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006740

Considering na hindi naman siya ginawa all at once. May mga census kayong ginawa sa ibang time frame.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006741

So pwede po ba namin malaman, Madam Speaker, ano yung average or median age ng records?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006742

May mga records po ba tayo galing mula 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026? Pwede po ba namin malaman yun, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006743

2024 CBMS, Madam Speaker, is the oldest record that we have for using for PSA data.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006744

Ano naman po, Madam Speaker, yung pinakabago? 2024 lang ba lahat?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006745

Kasi naiintindihan ko po, Madam Speaker, the first cycle, POPs and CBMS 2024, I want to find out if there are certain household information collected beyond 2024.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006746

Let's say last year, may mga sinensos ba kayo ng 2025? May mga sinensos ba kayo ng 2026?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006747

Or 2024 lang ba lahat?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006748

For social protection, Madam Speaker, the oldest would be 2024. But for the FIES, which is the Family Income and Expenditure Survey, it would be just for 2026.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006749

So meron pong two-year interval yung FIES and for social protection.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006750

For social services, is that correct?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006751

Yes, two-year interval, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006752

Okay. So, Madam Speaker, yung tanong ko po sa PSA, and of course, for the guidance of all our government agencies who are relying on the CBMS data,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006753

malaking pagkakaiba po kasi yung mga nakokollect natin ng 2026 and 2024.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006754

Dahil sa isang household, in the span of two years, a lot can change. May mga nawawala ng trabaho, may mga lumilipat.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006755

So, yung tanong po dito, masyado na bang luma ang household information, let's say, ng 2024 para gamitin sa beneficiary targeting?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006756

And I also want to know, Madam Speaker, maglalaan tayo muli ng 5 billion para sa CBMS census, kailan po yung target date natin para isagawa ang second cycle?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006757

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006758

Madam Speaker, the agency agrees that given the long interval,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006759

we can't fully capture the shocks that we experience over the course of those two years.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006760

So, that's precisely the reason why for 2027, we're asking for 5 billion, because of the shocks that happened in 2025 and also, of course, 2026.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006761

So, really, the 5 billion for the CBMS for 2027, besides the regular census processes,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006762

so, the effects of those shocks in 2025 and 2026, so that social protection programs and all social policies would be informed and tailored accordingly.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006763

Madam Speaker, kailan po yung target natin para sa second cycle ng CBMS?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006764

September 2027, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006765

And gusto ko po malaman, ano yung pinaka-recent na CBMS data turnover na ibinigay ng PSA sa LGU this year?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006766

Ano yung pinaka-recent yung turnover?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006769

First quarter of 2026, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006770

So you mean to tell me, Madam Speaker, kunwari isa po akong LGU, natanggap ko lamang ang aking CBMS data nung taong 2026, tapos 2027 maglalaan tayo ng 5 bilyon ulit, tapos kokolektahan na naman ako ng data sa 2027?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006771

Hindi po ba, Madam Speaker, parang nakapanghinayang na isang taon lang halos napakinabangan ng data na na-collect?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006772

And, since malapit na po matapos oras ko, Madam Speaker, may I just illustrate kung gaano po kaimportante ang CBMS?

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006773

And I hope our kind sponsor helps me verify this information.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006774

Magbibigay po ako ng example.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006775

Status of CBMS source, social pension validation.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006776

Para po ito sa social pension ng ating mga seniors.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006777

Total potential balance.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006778

Beneficiaries identified from CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006779

Batches 1 to 3.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006780

Figure, 568,651.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006781

Remaining for field validation, 251,318.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006782

Madam Chair, sa aming pagsusuri, nagpapakita naman na gumagana mas kipapano ang ating CBMS.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006783

Dahil may mga na-identify tayong mga beneficiaries.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006784

Kaso lang po, binavalidate pa rin yung remaining 251,318.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006785

Beneficiaries, hindi lamang po sa social pension for senior citizens.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006786

Mas ka sa 4Ps, for example, may 107,000 households pa subject to validation.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006787

Like I said, Madam Speaker, napakahalaga po ng CBMS dahil ito po ang listahan na pinapagbasihan natin for our social protection programs for our most vulnerable sectors.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006788

Hindi po biro ang perang inilalaan natin para dito at napakahalaga po ito para mag-guide ang ating...

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006789

National Government Agency.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006790

So, can we get a response from our distinguished sponsor?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006791

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006792

With regards to the social pension particularly, there are multiple layers of validation.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006793

For one, it's the PSA checks for the death registry.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006794

At the same time, given that there's an age requirement for being able to avail of the social pension, so 60,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006795

they also counter-check that with other surveys and other...

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006796

Registries.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006797

So, that would be at least one of the reasons why validation takes so long.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006798

At least on the part of the...

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006799

Before I close, Madam Speaker, may I request from our distinguished sponsor as well as the PSA,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006800

baka pwede niyo po ako bigyan ng timeline lang kung meron kayong target dates for completion sa mga bina-validate niyo pa pong population

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006801

dahil napakahalaga po yung timely delivery ng data, lalong-lalo na po na maglalaan tayo ulit ng mahigit 5 bilyong piso

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006802

at magsasagawa na naman tayo ng census sa parating na taon.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006803

So, pwede ko po ba makuha yung commitment ng ating sponsor pati ng PSA na bibigyan tayo ng timeline kung kailan nila tatapusin ang validation,

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006804

hindi lamang sa social pension, hindi lamang sa 4Ps, kundi sa lahat ng programa na may pending pa tayong validation.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006805

Yes, Madam Speaker. The agency will assess and will furnish a copy to our good colleagues.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006806

Madam Speaker, gusto ko pong ulitin and I hope hindi po ako mamisinterpret ng definition.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006807

I want the CBMS to succeed. Napakaganda po kasi ng vision ng batas dahil napakahalaga na alam po natin kung saan may deprivation of services.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006808

We must know where government resources must go to populations that need it the most.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006809

And of course, magandang bigyan natin ang pagkakataon yung mga LGU na magplano based on actual household conditions.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006810

Yun lamang po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-006811

Salamat po ako sa ating distinguished sponsor, pati po sa DepDev at sa PSA. Maraming salamat po. Magandang gabi po.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006812

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006813

Thank you, Honorable Abalos, Majority Leader.

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Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla

asr-006814

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Roberto Nazal of BH Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget

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Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla

asr-006815

of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development,

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Rep. Crispin Diego D. Remulla

asr-006816

including its attached agencies and corporations.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-006817

The Honorable Roberto Nazal is recognized.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006818

Thank you, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor. Good evening to the DepDev.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006819

Madam Chair, through you, do you agree, distinguished sponsor, that when government spending is significantly delayed

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006820

or falls short of program,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006821

that can slow economic growth?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006822

Yes, Madam Speaker. We agree.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006823

Every year, we have unobligated, unused, and reverted appropriations.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006824

Does DepDev compute the economic cost?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006825

Not just the unused money, but the projects, jobs, services, and economic activity that were delayed?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006826

Thank you.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006827

Yes, Madam Speaker, there is a competition with regards to primary infrastructure,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006828

the effects of delays in primary infrastructure projects, and also social programs.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006829

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006830

Thank you for that, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006831

Madam Chair, and do you show the...

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006832

Madam Chair, and do you show the...

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006833

Madam Chair, and do you show this to the agencies concerned?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006834

Does DepDev, minapakita po ba ito sa mga ahensya?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006835

And do we tell them what their failure to implement is costing the economy?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006836

Okay.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006837

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006838

These are discussed with the agencies.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006839

This is also reported to the President through the Economic Development Council.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006840

Okay.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006841

Thank you for that, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006842

Natsi-check po ba natin, distinguished sponsor, Madam Chair, kung ano yung bottlenecks?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006843

And once identified, do we recommend what the executive and the legislature needs to do to help departments address them?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006844

Yes, these are checked, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006845

So, kapag may cabinet meeting po, do we flag the repeat underspenders and explain what their failure to implement is costing the economy?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006846

Yes, Madam Speaker, the level of the cabinet.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006847

Do we have the data kung sino po ang laging underspending?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006848

And can you give a sample kung ano po ang nagiging cost nito sa economy?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006849

Okay.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006850

Madam Speaker, just for those that fall within the purview of the DEPDEV, which is the primary infrastructure programs and the social programs,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006851

but in terms of agency per agency, that would be under the DBM?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006852

For example, in 2020...

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006853

In 2025, Madam Chair, ang dami po natin naging underspending at marami po tayo naging FISARO under sa DPWH, for example.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006854

Ano po ang naging economic effect nung underspending natin sa DPWH noong 2025?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006855

Okay.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006856

And can you cite the economic indicators na naapektuhan?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006857

As per the DEPDEV, if these projects would have been implemented in a timely manner, we would have grown an additional 1%.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006858

1% in terms of GDP?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006859

In terms of GDP.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006860

Thank you for that, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006861

Thank you, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006862

How about implementation?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006863

Every year, we see unfilled positions and heavy reliance on JOs and job orders and contract of service workers.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006864

The DEPDEV study, whether these recurring staffing issues are constraining government implementation and economic growth.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006865

And if this happens year after year,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006866

shouldn't there be a greater urgency?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006867

Should we find a government-wide solution?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006868

In terms of the unfilled positions and the effect of these unfilled positions with regards to performances of agencies,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006869

that would not be under the purview of the DEPDEV.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006870

However, with regards to the job orders,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006871

and those workers for contracts of service,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006872

the DEPDEV has issued an EO recommending for social protections for them.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006873

Again, sorry.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006874

Can you repeat that, Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006875

The DEPDEV, so, the DEPDEV cannot,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006876

DEPDEV doesn't assess the effects of unfilled positions and JOs and the COSs

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006877

with regards to the implementing capacity of agencies,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006878

agencies.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006879

But, it has issued an executive order recommending for social protections for workers who are job orders,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006880

contracts of service.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006881

Hindi po ba dapat tingnan din po natin ito?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006882

And it's about time we look at it because, first and foremost,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006883

yung JOs and COS po, ang dami po nating posisyon na laging hindi nafi-fill up na

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006884

mga permanent positions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006885

And yung JOs and COS,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006886

they remain people who have no security of tenure.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006887

And siyempre, that will affect,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006888

if I were in their position,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006889

and wala po akong titignan na magiging future ko,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006890

unstable po yung aking kinabukasan,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006891

hindi po ba makakaapekto yun sa productivity?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006892

Yes, Madam Speaker, it will.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006893

Given that, of course, livelihood and security.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006894

And this is a problem year in and year out.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006895

Lagi po tayong ganito karami ang posisyon na dapat fill upan.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006896

Pero

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006897

napakadami namang JOs and COS,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006898

tapos hindi po napupuno yung mga posisyon.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006899

And I'm sure,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006900

the DepDev will agree that

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006901

this will affect

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006902

the productivity,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006903

not only of the people

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006904

in those positions,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006905

but also of the departments,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006906

Kasi hindi po nila napupuno yung

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006907

kailangan

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006913

nilang punuin na trabaho.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006914

Na posisyon.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006915

Do you agree, Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006916

Yes. Madam Chair.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006917

Yes, Madam Speaker, we agree.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006918

The agency agrees.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006919

However, as of now,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006920

this will not fall under the mandate of the DEF-DEF.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006921

But what will the DEF-DEF do

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006922

moving forward?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006923

Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006924

The DEF-DEF is part of

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006925

the Committee on Drafting the IRRs

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006926

and the Guidelines for the Government Optimization Act.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006927

This might be one of the considerations

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006928

that we will consider

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006929

for the productivity

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006930

of our workers.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006931

And baka po, it's about time

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006932

that we measure this also

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006933

so that we can definitely tell

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006934

the Executive

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006935

or inform the Executive

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006936

kung ano po ang epekto

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006937

nung tuloy-tuloy po

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006938

na hindi po nila pinupuno yung posisyon.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006939

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006940

Definitely, this will be one of the vehicles

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006941

in which we can raise this issue.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006942

I'd like to continue to my next question.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006943

On right-of-way,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006944

Madam Chair, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006945

isang kongkreto pong halimbawa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006946

ay yung right-of-way, no?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006947

We were informed in a meeting with DPWH

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006948

that for BIT,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006949

SIPAG, and convergence projects,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006950

the LGU is expected to finance

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006951

the ROW, yung right-of-way.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006952

So ibig sabihin, for a project funded

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006953

in the national

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006954

G20,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006955

GAA, and implemented by DPWH,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006956

anong posisyon ng DEPDEV,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006957

sino po ba talaga

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006958

ang dapat mag-finance ng ROW?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006959

National Government or LGU?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006960

Kasi ang sabi po sa amin,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006961

pag

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006962

under BIP, SIPAG,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006963

or convergence,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006964

ang dapat daw yung LGU.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006965

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006966

the position of the DEPDEV at least,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006967

if it's a national project,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006968

then it should be

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-006969

funded nationally.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006970

Then, can we please come up with a

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006971

can we come up with a

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006972

siguro, I don't know kung anong pwede natin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006973

ilabas,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006974

a recommendation

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006975

na

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006976

baka dapat po,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006977

kasi ang nangyayari sa atin,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006978

any project

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006979

under BIP, SIPAG, and convergence,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006980

hindi po siya natutuloy.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006981

Dahil, ang laging nagiging issue

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006982

ay sasabihin nila, LGU ang dapat magbayad.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006983

So, nagiging problema po yung

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006984

right of way.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006985

For me,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006986

if it is sa national,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006987

tama po yung sinabi nyo, and I agree,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006988

para sa amin po, pagka national kasi,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006989

ang ga-a, dapat ang

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006990

right of way, dapat sa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006991

DPWH, dapat sa National Government.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006992

Meron na po bang final IRR

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-006993

ang ARO Act?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007010

As per the agency, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007011

this would, the lead agency

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007012

would be the DPWH.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007013

So, we're confirming, we'll get back to you,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007014

distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007015

Thank you.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007016

Kung wala po pa po kasi,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007017

can DEV-DEV

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007018

commit

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007019

that this issue should be expressly

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007020

clarified in the IRR,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007021

particularly,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007022

for BIP, SIPAG, and Convergence projects.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007023

Yes, we agree, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007025

And kasi nga po, if LGUs are not supposed to finance the ROW, then bakit po yun ang understanding ng DPWH?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007035

Sana po malinaw na natin para po maiwasan na itong issue na ito.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007041

Has DEPDev, Madam Sponsor, quantified how many projects and how much in appropriations are currently delayed because of unresolved ROW?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007093

Madam Speaker, the DepDEP will only have data on the IFPs, the Infrastructure Flagship Projects.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007094

But with the other infrastructure...

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007095

projects that would be under the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007096

implementing agency? Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007097

Then how can we say

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007098

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007099

Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007100

na we are monitoring kung ano po yung

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007101

mga delayed projects na hindi na i-implement

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007102

if we are not monitoring this?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007103

Because this is part

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007104

and parcel of what

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007105

the DPWH needs to be

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007106

able to implement the project and make

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007107

the project

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007108

generate

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007109

benefit for

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007110

each project na matapos nila.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007111

Kung ito po ay

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007112

cause of delay,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007113

magkano po ang nagiging

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007114

effect nito

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007115

sa ating ekonomiya?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007116

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007117

really, well given

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007118

that DEPDEV only has purview for

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007119

the flagship programs,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007120

it will only have data on the

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007121

flagship program. But

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007122

the rest of the projects

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007123

under the GAA, unfortunately

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007124

the DEPDEV doesn't have purview over that.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007125

But shouldn't we be

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007126

monitoring this?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007127

Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007128

Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007129

Kasi siyempre this will contribute

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007130

to the delay of

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007131

yung payback nung ating mga

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007132

gastos eh. Aren't we

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007133

borrowing also for this to accomplish

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007134

itong mga project na to?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007135

And kung hindi po siya nagagawa,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007136

hindi ba meron

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007137

katumbas na

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007138

economic cost dito?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007139

Yes, Madam

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007140

Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007141

Well as of now, DEPDEV doesn't have

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007142

the mandate to monitor the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007143

project under the GAA.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007144

However, I was

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007145

informed that the DBM does have

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007146

Project DIME, which

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007147

somewhat pursues what

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007148

our distinguished colleague wants to do.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007149

So the data for this

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007150

should be with the DBM?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007151

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007152

Pero shouldn't the DEPDEV be familiar

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007153

with, shouldn't they share that

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007154

data with you po para alam nyo?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007155

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007156

these challenges

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007157

are

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007158

discussed by the DEPDEV

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007159

and the DBM during the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007160

Economic Development Council meeting.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007161

So that is one

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007162

way in which they

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007163

exchange information.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007164

However, with regards to the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007165

project-by-project basis, it would be

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007166

through the Implementing Agency

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007167

and DBM

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007168

as a project.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007169

I'm just asking naman po if it's quantified

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007170

e, saka kung ano po yung effect

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007171

in terms of

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007172

how

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007173

this is affecting the economic indicators

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007174

kung hindi po siya

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007175

nagagawa. So kung alam po

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007176

natin yun, yun lang naman po ang tinatanong.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007177

Can you patigil po nung aking?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007178

We will,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007179

the agency will assess,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007180

the agency will discuss

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007181

like the best

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007183

So those are the best ways in which we can

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007184

quantify these effects, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007185

Thank you for that, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007186

On earmarked

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007187

funds,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007188

Madam Sponsor, Madam

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007189

Speaker, Madam Chair,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007190

from a planning

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007191

perspective, does DEPDEV study

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007192

how government handles

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007193

earmarked funds?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007194

When the law kasi

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007195

earmarks revenues for a particular

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007196

development purpose,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007197

do you compare

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007198

the economic and social return of

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asr-007199

deploying these funds

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007200

against the fiscal benefit

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007201

of national government, retaining

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007202

the cash, reducing

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007203

borrowing, or using the fiscal

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007204

space elsewhere?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007205

Pinitignan po ba natin ito?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007206

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007207

that would not be

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007208

under the DEPDEV's

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007209

mandate, though the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007210

DEPDEV, given that it's in charge

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007211

of the macroeconomic

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007212

outlook,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007213

would look at these challenges

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007214

and also

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007215

these issues. But in terms

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007216

of actually recommending

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007217

which particular

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007218

funding we should

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007219

propose for which particular sector, given that

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007220

there are earmarked revenues

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007221

for that particular sector,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007222

DEPDEV doesn't have the mandate to

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007223

make such recommendations.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007224

So, hindi po natin tinitignan.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007225

We're not measuring this.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007226

Hindi po natin siya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007227

ina-assess.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007228

Kasi,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007229

ang sinasabi po

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007230

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007231

in previous hearings,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007232

ang sabi po sa amin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007233

is cash is fungible.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007234

So,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007235

when we use

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007236

the earmarked

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007237

funds for a particular

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007238

purpose, for example,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007239

yung SUF,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007240

we're using yung Spectrum Users Fund.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007241

At hindi po siya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007242

nagagamit para sa free Wi-Fi.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007243

Tapos,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007244

ang dami pong areas na hindi pa rin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007245

natin nalalagyan

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007246

ng Wi-Fi. Pero,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007247

ginagamit yung pera at hindi siya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007248

nabibigay dun sa DICT

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007249

for that purpose,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007250

hindi po ba merong

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007251

trade-off yun?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007252

So,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007253

that is what I'm asking.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007254

If we are using it

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007255

for a particular purpose,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007256

halimbawa,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007257

ginamit natin siya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007258

for another project

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007259

instead of

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007260

what it's earmarked for,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007261

hindi tayo humiram.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007262

Pero,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007263

ang kapalit naman niya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007264

ay yung free Wi-Fi,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007265

hindi po ba dapat

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007266

tinitignan natin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007267

kung ano yung trade-off?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007281

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007282

we recognize

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007283

and we actually commend

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007284

our distinguished colleague for that

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007285

suggestion. We should be

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007286

looking at earmarked revenues

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007287

given that these are also

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007288

enumerated and see

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007289

which sectors have

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007290

which particular earmarked funds.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007291

That would be beneficial

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007292

in terms of the budgeting process.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007293

But

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007294

at least as of now, what DepDep does

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007295

is that they look at the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007296

different

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007297

forms of legislation,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007298

see if, for example,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007299

a particular

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007300

earmarked fund

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007301

should be given

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007302

to a different sector,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007303

like a sector

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007304

that needs it more.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007305

DepDep looks

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007306

at that. So that's

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007307

the only

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007308

flexibility that DepDep has as of the moment.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007309

Though, this is a good

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007310

suggestion on the part of

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007311

our good colleague.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007312

So are you saying

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007313

that

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007314

Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007315

that currently

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007316

before

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007317

an earmarked fund is used

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007318

for a different purpose,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007319

ini-evaluate po ng DepDev?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007320

Kung halimbawa,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007321

kesa na ilagay natin 'yan

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007322

sa free Wi-Fi,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007323

pagamit na lang sa isang sector

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007324

dahil kesa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007325

umutang pa tayo para doon sa project na 'yon,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007326

ay tanggalin na lang natin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007327

sa free Wi-Fi

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007328

tapos ilagay natin doon sa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007329

yung funding doon sa, ano,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007334

For that particular

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007335

whatever purpose or other project.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007336

So are we saying

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007337

that the DepDep evaluates

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007338

before the

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007339

earmarked fund is used?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007340

Not

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007341

for earmarked revenue,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007342

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007343

Yun po ang concern ko, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007344

Kasi, shouldn't we

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007345

be making an assessment

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007346

first?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007347

If the

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007348

government,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007349

the intended purpose

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007350

for why Congress earmarked

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007351

or why we earmarked

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007352

the funds for that project,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007353

hindi po po dapat kung

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007354

less important siya or less

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007355

ang economic benefit niya,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007356

dun lang natin siya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007357

ilipat.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007358

Kasi kung hindi natin ginagawa yun,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007359

we might be using

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007360

the earmarked funds for projects

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007361

which have less benefit to the country.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007362

As of now, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007363

this is not a practice

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007364

that the DepDep is currently

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007365

undertaking. Though,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007366

given the suggestion of the Honorable

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007367

Nazal, the DepDep will

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007368

consider assessing

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007369

all of the earmarked revenues,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007370

but just the line items.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007371

Because the DepDep doesn't have visibility

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007372

over which particular revenues

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007373

actually go into

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007374

government funds, like the pool

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007375

of funds that we have.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007376

What I want to, um,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007377

emphasize on Madam

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007378

Sponsor is, before,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007379

sana, before we do anything

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007380

to touch, kasi yung earmarked

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007381

funds, batas po yan eh.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007382

So we earmarked something,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007383

the funds for a particular purpose.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007384

And that purpose,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007385

kaya po tayo ng earmark, importante siya.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007386

Ngayon, kung

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007387

gagamitin natin sa iba,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007388

at the very least,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007389

dapat meron po tayong procedure

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007390

and we came up with a

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007391

meron tayong tamang proseso

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007392

in evaluating why

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007393

we used it. Hindi po siya

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007394

arbitrary. Hindi po ba?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007395

So kung gagamitin natin siya,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007396

ginamit natin for a different purpose,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007397

at tatanggalin natin dun sa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007398

purpose nung batas, eh

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007399

dapat, talagang napaka-importante

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007400

nung proyektong yun. At mas malaki

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007401

talaga yung magiging benepisyon niya.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007402

Yes, Madam

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007403

Speaker. The agency,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007404

the DepDep, uh,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007405

takes note of the suggestion by the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007406

Honorable Nazal, which is a very good suggestion

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007407

actually. So baka po

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007408

we can also come up with a

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007409

I don't know, a policy or whatever na

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007410

Yes.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007411

Bago po gamitin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007412

ang any earmark, eh dapat meron

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007413

what do you call this,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007414

merong

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007415

merong criteria.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007416

Yes, we take note

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007417

and we agree, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007418

So, um,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007419

let me go to my next question,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007420

Madam Chair. Sa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007421

PhilHealth po,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007422

magkano exactly ang sin tax

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007423

revenues earmarked for PhilHealth

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007424

that remain unremitted

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007425

or unavailable to PhilHealth today?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007426

Can you please give us

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007427

the balance by year?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007428

Madam Speaker, that

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007429

would be under the Department of

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007430

Finance. Okay,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007431

kaya ako po tinatanong yan, kasi

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007432

from a DepDep perspective,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007433

do you compute the economic cost

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007434

of delaying

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007435

those funds being remitted to PhilHealth?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007436

Kasi,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007437

yung may sakit po, di ba?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007438

Yung ating mga taong

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007439

may sakit, for example, hindi sila

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007440

nagiging productive. Ngayon, kung merong

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007441

kung sila

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007442

naman ay kailangan nilang gastusin

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007443

yung pera na iyon para sa

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007444

kanilang pagpapagamot,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007445

ito po ay pera na pwede

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007446

naman po nilang gamitin para

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007447

pang hanap buhay or pang negosyo.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007448

So,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007449

that is the reason why

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007450

I'm asking, kasi

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007451

dapat po tinitignan din natin ito, because

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007452

sabi nga nila,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007453

health is wealth. Hindi po ba?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007454

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007455

The

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007456

Good Secretary assures that if there are

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007457

requests for

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007458

for example, for the

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007459

study or the assessment of

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007460

these types of issues,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007461

then the DepDep can

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007462

conduct studies on it.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007463

So,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007464

ito po ang nais kong

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007465

tingnan nyo rin po.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007466

Efficient healthcare

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007467

frees household income.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007468

Kung hindi kailangan ubusin ng

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007469

pamilya ang savings nila sa hospitalization,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007470

that money can

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007471

go to education, housing, business,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007472

investment, or consumption

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007473

that makes the economy move.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007474

So, ang tanong po natin is

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007475

do we quantify

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007476

the effect of inadequate

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007477

healthcare financing

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007478

on out-of-pocket spending,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007479

household savings,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007480

consumption, productivity,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007481

and economic growth?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007482

May time, please.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007483

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007484

Thank you.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007485

Madam Speaker, the Philippine Institute of Development Studies has a health economics program.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007486

There are multiple studies that they are conducting with regards to this issue.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007487

The agency, the DepDev, will be happy to furnish copies to our distinguished colleagues.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007488

Thank you for that, Madam Chair, Madam Sponsor.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007489

My next question is, kasi ito po, magkakadugtong po ito eh, so please bear with me.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007490

Do you also compare the economic cost against whatever the national government gains?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007491

Kasi po, dinidelay natin yung pondo.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007492

So, most likely, because cash is fungible, we are using it elsewhere instead of dinadala natin sa PhilHealth.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007493

So, do we compute?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007494

Do we compare the economic cost?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007495

Do we compare the economic cost against whatever the national government gains by retaining the money, reducing borrowing, or using the fiscal space elsewhere?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007504

Madam Speaker, the PIDS and also the other attachments that will see the records if we have assessments of these trade-offs.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007505

Thank you. Thank you for that. Sana po tignan natin kasi napaka-importante.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007506

Okay, let me move to my next question on the HEDF.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007507

Madam Chair, magkano exactly ang HEDF balance still with the Bureau of Treasury?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007508

Would we know that? Meron po ba tayong details on that?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007509

Can we repeat the abbreviation, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007510

Magkano exactly ang HEDF balance?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007511

Okay.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007512

Still with the Bureau of Treasury?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007513

Oh.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007514

Ito po yung sa CHED.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007515

That would be under the DOF, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007516

No, the reason why I'm asking is because

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007517

RA 7722 says CHED shall appoint a reputable government financial institution as portfolio manager for the HEDF.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007518

Yun po yung Republic Act.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007519

Yet the funds were transferred to Treasury pursuant to E0338.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007520

An executive order cannot supersede a law passed by Congress.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007521

So, ang tanong po, why is the government allowing this apparent violation of the law to continue?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007522

Is this fiscal convenience because the national government needs the money elsewhere or wants to reduce borrowing?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007523

Madam Speaker, the Bureau of Treasury is an attached agency of the Department of Finance.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007524

The reason why this is important, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007525

has DEPDev computed whether that is actually a better economic decision?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007526

Kasi parang ang nangyari po,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007527

iniwan natin, kaysa sa nasa CHED po yung pera,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007528

managed by a private institution, ang ginawa po,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007529

nag-issue po tayo ng executive order, tapos nilagay po natin sa Bureau of Treasury.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007530

So, ang nangyayari po, CHED,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007531

hindi po nababayaran ng CHED yung mga obligasyon niya sa mga state universities.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007536

Ngayon, meron pong economic effect yan.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007537

Ano yung economic effect niyan?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007538

Hindi po nabibigyan ng, maraming hindi na-accommodate na college scholars

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007539

or students yung mga SUCs kasi yung pera ng CHED nasa Bureau of Treasury.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-007540

Honorable Nazal, please wrap up.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007541

So, that's something lang po na I would like to, for health, for education, sana po na mamesure din po natin.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007542

Let me go to my next, Madam Chair, does the DEV-DEV set a long-term objective towards a balanced budget?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007543

Meron po ba tayong long-term plan na eventually, tinitignan po natin, we will achieve a balanced budget?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007544

Are we gunning for that?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007545

Kasi po, pataas ng pataas ang utang natin, while at the same time, marami tayong appropriations na hindi nagagamit.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007546

Are we borrowing partly to support a level of appropriations that government cannot even implement?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007547

Madam Speaker, well, at least on the part of DEV-DEV, in terms of a balanced budget,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007548

it just assesses the macroeconomic outlook.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007549

It gives the recommendation to the DBCC.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007550

But in terms of balanced budget in prioritizing critical sectors, that's something that the DEV-DEV does.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007551

It also assesses our compliance to sustainable development goals.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007552

That's one way in which we can prioritize critical sectors in health, in education, and all of the related sectors.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007553

The reason why I'm asking,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007554

asking this,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007555

kasi wala po ba tayong end goal in sight?

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-007556

Your time has ended already.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007557

Just, almost done, ma'am.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007558

Almost done.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007559

So, because I understand that deficits can make sense.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007560

Kasi right now, we're deficit spending.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007561

If we borrow for productive investments that generate growth,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007562

but if we borrow and the money cannot be implemented effectively,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007563

doesn't that weaken the justification for additional debt?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007564

So, yun po ang isa sa gusto kong tingnan.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007565

Secondly,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007566

has DEV-DEV modeled what level of deficit is actually optimal for the Philippines?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007567

And what would it take eventually to balance the budget without damaging growth and essential services?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007568

So, wala po ba tayong long-term plan?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007569

Madam Speaker, the DEV-DEV is involved with at least the revisions and updating of the medium-term fiscal framework.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007570

So, these are challenges and issues that the DEV-DEV also considers.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007571

So, okay. Thank you.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007572

Madam Chair, just a quick manifestation to end my interpolation.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007573

Planning should not stop with setting targets.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007574

For me, DEV-DEV should also know what is preventing government from implementing them,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007575

what that failure costs the economy,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007576

and what government needs to do to fix it.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007577

Every decision,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007578

to spend,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007579

has a cost.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007580

But every decision not to spend

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007581

or to delay spending

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007582

also has a cost.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007583

I hope DEV-DEV will be much more proactive in monitoring the spending

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007584

and implementation performance of our agencies,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007585

identifying bottlenecks early

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007586

and recommending to both the Executive and Congress

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007587

what needs to be done

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007588

before these problems translate into slower growth.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-007589

Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-007590

[unclear] Leader.

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-007591

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-007592

may we recognize

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-007593

the Honorable Antonio Tinio

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-007594

of ACT Teachers Party-list

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-007595

for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-007596

Honorable Antonio Tinio

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-007597

of ACT Teachers Party-list

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Deputy Speaker Maria Rachel J. Arenas

asr-007598

is recognized.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007599

Thank you.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007600

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007601

Speaker, sponsor, kanina ang mga tanong po natin ay kinalaman sa debt, papalaking utang, papalaking ring deficit spending at sinabi natin na saan napunta yung inutang.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007602

Pinakita rin natin yung utang ang nagpondos at nag-enable sa pambihirang paglobo ng pork infrastructure, notably flood control, and pork ayuda, yung maifip, tupad, aiks, among others.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007603

Only possible because umutang tayo ng malaki.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007604

Okay. Ngayon, let's talk about yung regional allocation ng spending.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007605

Paano nahahati?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007606

Yan. Okay. So, kaya may kinalaman pa rin ito sa dev-dev, diba? Okay. Regional development. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007607

Alright. So, I think I have some slides as well. Meron ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007608

Slides po. Yeah.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007609

Ito pa ang number one natin? Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007610

Okay. Parang hindi yan yung number one slide natin. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007611

Nabalita, na-report sa balita, no? When the former DPWH Secretary Bonoan, diba? Testified in a plunder case, diba? Kaugnay sa flood control, he mentioned, sabi niya, there was such a thing.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007612

During the first three years of this administration, there was such a thing.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007613

As a leadership fund, yun na sabi niya. Leadership fund sa DPWH.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007614

Ibig sabihin, merong parang centralized, no? Central office na pondo for infrastructure. Infrastructure funding na centrally managed. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007615

As distinct from yung nasa mga region.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007616

Sa mga district engineering offices.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007617

Sabi niya, well, sino yung nakinabang dyan? Sabi niya, as reported, lahat daw ng mga senador in the previous congress, they all partook of this leadership fund.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007618

Okay. Ano pa yung nasa slide natin? Next slide.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007619

Kalimutan ko na yung laman ng presentation, eh. Next slide.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007620

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007621

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007622

And so, if you do look at the 2026...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007623

2027 budget of... proposed budget of DPWH, you'll notice 80% talaga centrally managed.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007624

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007625

Centrally managed as against yung directly nasa region.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007626

80% of their capital outlay budget is in the central office.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007627

Okay. Next slide.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007628

Di na natin iti-detalye.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007629

And then if you zoom in even further,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007630

kung tignan natin yung flood control, gano'n din in distribution, central office, pero broken down pa rin into regions yan, ha?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007631

Central office ay may malaking 80% as well is in the central office and then yung regions, yung nasa baba, are 20%.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007632

Gano'n.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007633

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007634

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007635

So, parang ganito, in terms of number of projects, 1,255 of the projects are centrally managed, distributed sa region, yung directly nasa district engineering offices are 100...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007636

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007637

No, actually, number of DEOs with flood control projects, 112 of 199.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007638

So, actually, hindi lahat ng mga district engineering offices merong flood control projects.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007639

And baka sabihin nyo, well, hindi naman siguro lahat, binabaha.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007640

But if you will notice, kung titignan mo yan, merong blanco.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007641

For example, you look at that column, region 11, that's Davao region, blanco.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007642

Blanco, blanco.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007643

So, yung district engineering offices doon, walang flood control projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007644

So, parang sabihin nyo, but ganun, binabaha naman sa Davao, pero wala sila.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007645

Sa central office, meron for them.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007646

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007647

What's the point here?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007648

The point nga is yung allocation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007649

Diba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007650

Yung allocation ng mga pondo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007651

Ginawa lang natin example yung sa DPWH.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007652

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007653

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007654

So, ano ba yung next slide natin?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007655

Can I see the next slide?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007656

I don't know.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007657

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007658

Alright.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007659

The question here is, usually, this is the NEP.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007660

This is the NEP.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007661

And in the...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007662

Okay, from the point of view, lalo na of district representatives, kasabihin nila, mukhang hindi equitable ang allocation ng infrastructure budget.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007663

But ganun, may mga marami na sa central office, tapos ito nga, as you can see here, in the case of one program, only 112 of 199 district engineering offices have projects.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007664

Okay, so my question actually, the question is more addressed to the Committee on Appropriations rather than DepDev actually.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007665

Will Congress entertain and incorporate amendments to address such gaps in the allocation of infrastructure?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007666

Ibig sabihin, tatanggap ba ang kongresong ito at magpapasok ng mga, let's call them, congressional amendments?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007667

Commendments to the NEP to address these, pwedeng sabihin, the inequity, the regional inequity in allocation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007668

Yan ang tanong.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007669

Tigil po muna, o, tigil po muna.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007670

Tigil po muna.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007671

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007672

Top the clock.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007673

Ayaw.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007674

Madam Speaker, at least on the part of the DepDev, the DepDev has been closely coordinating with the DBM in terms of enhancing at least the planning stages and the proposals of the projects that are needed.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007675

Like the strategic investments needed for infrastructure projects.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007676

Alright.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007677

So, at least on the part of DepDev, that is the...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007678

Yeah, as I understand, supposedly in the preparation of the NEP, the DepDev is involved, is that correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007679

In the, at the, from starting at the RDC level, Regional Development Council level, is that correct?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007680

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007681

Okay, so involved dun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007682

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007683

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007684

At actually, ang paliwanag,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007685

sa akin, during the budget briefings, ang mga nasama daw sa NEP, yung dumaan sa mga RDC.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007686

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007687

So, kung yung mga sabi dito, kung merong mga halimbawa, districts na wala o kulang, hindi sila nakahabol dun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007688

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007689

So, pero, yung ang tanong ko nga, paano yung mga yun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007690

Will this Congress, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007691

In this gap.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007692

Will it incorporate yung mga proposed amendment to address these gaps?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007693

Particularly in the case of public infrastructure.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007694

Kahit hindi na dumaan dun sa proseso ng RDC.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007695

So, tatanggapin ba ng Kongreso?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007696

As I said, the question is more addressed to Congress itself.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007697

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007698

So, that's the question.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007699

So, I'm asking actually, the Vice Chair of the Committee on Appropriation.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007700

Madam Speaker, as the Budget Sponsor of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007701

I can only speak for the involvement of the DEP-DEV in terms of proposing infrastructure projects on the regional level.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007702

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007703

All right.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007704

Sige.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007705

Ready na.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007706

The next...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007707

Next...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007708

Next slide po.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007709

Next slide.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007710

Tubos oras natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007711

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007712

So, historically, if I may, if we go by yung kasaysayan ng budget, historically, nangyayari yun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007713

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007714

From the NEP, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007715

Biglang magpapasok ng mga proyekto, particular for infrastructure.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007716

That happened.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007717

So, from the NEP, you get the approved general appropriations bill.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007718

And there, yung mga deficiencies na sinabi natin, mapupunuan yan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007719

So, historically, nangyayari yun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007720

Pero, in order to be able to do that,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007721

in order to be able to do that, alam naman natin, since there's a fixed ceiling,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007722

on the budget, diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007723

In this case, it's 7.2 trillion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007724

Kailangan may pagkunan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007725

Para madagdagan mo yung DPWH, kailangan may bawasan ka from somewhere.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007726

Correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007727

And then, what does this table show?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007728

This table shows, historically, saan yung mga pinakalaking, malaking binawasan?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007729

Para makapagdagdag.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007730

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007731

Informally, this is referred to as source.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007732

Ano yung ginagawang source?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007733

Source ng funding.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007734

Of course, that's incorrect, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007735

Pero, source.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007736

Now, pakita natin, historically, ang isang favorite source ng Kongreso ay the DOTR, Foreign Assisted Project.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007737

And, of course, DepDEP may kinalaman kasi silang nag-a-approve dyan, eh.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007738

Tama ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007739

Yung mga flagship DOTR projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007740

San yung may kinalaman sa DepDEP yung tanong ko?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007741

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007742

So, nakita po natin dito.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007743

So, again, you will notice a pattern.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007744

In 2016, we only went back as far as 2016.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007745

Nakita natin nun, ang kalakaran, kung ano yung pinroposed na DOTR, Foreign Assisted Project, yun din ang in-approve ng Kongreso sa GAA.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007746

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007747

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007748

2016, that was the case.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007749

2017.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007750

2018.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007751

Medyo, dito na nagsimula yung pattern.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007752

May pinroposed, tapos, kalahati lang ang in-approve sa GAA.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007753

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007754

But then, we see that pattern on a larger scale, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007755

Starting 2020 up to 2026.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007756

So, ano po nakita natin?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007757

Partikular sa DOTR, Foreign Assisted Projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007758

Yung mga DOTR, Foreign Assisted Projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007759

Yan yung mga railway, North-North-South Railway, Subway, and so on.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007760

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007761

Mga mainly, these are rail projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007762

Ano nangyari?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007763

Starting, especially in 2020, as you can see.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007764

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007765

Ayan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007766

Nakita nyo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007767

2020, the proposed was 101 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007768

And then, the approved was only, was 46% below the proposal.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007769

Okay?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007780

And then, if you go to the 2024, talagang ito yung pinaka-extreme.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007781

Ito rin yung, it's no coincidence, ito rin yung may pinakamalaking flood control.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007782

At may pinakamalaking dagdag sa ayuda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007783

Yung pinakita ko kanina, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007784

So, tignan nyo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007785

Ang proposed for Foreign Assisted Projects was 161 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007786

Ang in-approved was only 3.5 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007787

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007788

Ang in-approved was only 98% below the proposal.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007789

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007790

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007791

So, ganun ang pattern.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007792

Ngayon, I ask this because in 2027, malaki.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007793

Napakalaki nung, napakalaki nung Foreign Assisted.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007794

232 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007795

So, my question is, will this happen again?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007796

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007797

Ang laki-laki ng pinroposed for DOTR, DOTR Foreign Assisted Projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007798

Tapos sa GAA, 2% lang pala yung ma-approve.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007799

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007800

So, anong epekto pagka ganun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007801

Sa DepDev, ano yung epekto pagka ganun ang ginagawa ng Kongreso?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007802

Madam Speaker, going back to what was mentioned a while ago,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007803

given the delays in public infrastructure spending,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007804

if we implemented those in a timely manner,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007805

we would have grown.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007806

One percentage point higher.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007807

So, that's one estimate that the DepDev has.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007808

But in terms of the DOTR projects,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007809

like the DepDev only has purview over the IFPs.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007810

So, there are 60 IFPs for DOTR.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007811

If it's okay with our distinguished colleague,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007812

we can give a copy as well as the status of these projects.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007813

Or I can enumerate if we're good.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007814

If my colleague wants.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007815

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007816

So, I am told...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007817

Madam Chair, baka pwedeng...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007818

May tanong lang po ako sa regarding the parliamentary status.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007819

If I may ask first,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007820

pwede mo matigil lang po yung oras?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007821

Ayaw, itigil yung oras.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007822

No, I am told that now the interpolation will include both...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007823

DepDev and DBM?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007824

Ganun po ba yun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007825

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007826

O hindi.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007827

You are not defending DBM budget.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007828

Just the DepDev budget.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007829

Ah, DepDev budget.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007830

Okay, it's clear.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007831

Thank you.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007832

Thank you.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007833

Alright.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007834

Alright.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007835

So, ano po nangyayari?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007836

So, obviously, pagka hindi pinunduhan,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007837

hindi ma-implement.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007838

Tama po.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007839

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007840

However,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007841

meron akong question dyan

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007842

because

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007843

in the NEP,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007844

yung mga foreign-assisted projects na ganyan,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007845

they are tied to specific loans.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007846

Tama po ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007847

Perfected loans.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007848

Correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007849

Correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007850

Tama po ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007851

Yung nasa NEP,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007852

na foreign-assisted project ng DOTR,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007853

meron ng loan agreement yun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007854

Tama?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007855

Tama?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007856

Not all projects, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007857

But most IFPs for foreign-assisted would be tied to official development assistance loans.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007858

So, as a general rule, yung nilalagay sa NEP, yun ay yung meron ng loan na.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007859

Sigurado na, nandyan na.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007860

Hindi yung mag-ne-negotiate pa lang kami, lalagay na namin sa NEP.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007861

Di ba? Hindi ganon?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007862

Yes.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007863

Nando na yung loan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007864

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007865

So, however, my question now is,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007866

pagka ginawa yan ng Kongreso,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007867

proposal was 151 billion,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007868

and then the approved in the GAA was only a fraction of that,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007869

2% of that.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007870

Ang tanyari, shouldn't that then, dahil natanggal na yung...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007871

The effect there is that the source of funding is no longer available, correct?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007872

Yes, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007873

In other words,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007874

Congress cannot use the...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007875

The freed up, let's call that freed up fiscal space, yun ba ang tawag doon?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007876

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007877

To fund other projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007878

Di ba hindi pwede yun?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007879

No, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007880

Hindi pwede, di ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007881

Nasabi natin, teka, 150 dapat sa foreign assisted, pero ginawasan natin ng 140.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007882

Therefore, we have freed up 140 for other projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007883

Di ba hindi pwede yun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007884

No.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007885

No, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007886

Hindi pwede.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007887

Eh, pero yun ang ginagawa ng Kongreso all the time.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007888

Di ba may mali doon?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007889

So, in other words,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007890

if when Congress, or if Congress specifically reduces the appropriation for

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007891

foreign assisted projects with perfected loan agreements,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007892

pagka binawasan yun ng Kongreso, in terms of pag hindi inappropriate yun ng Kongreso,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007893

then that should...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007894

reduce the total budget.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007895

Kung baga, yung, kunyari, 7.2, dapat kung binawasan mo ng 100B na foreign assisted,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007896

dapat 7.1 na lang ang ceiling.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007897

Hindi ba ganun dapat ang epekto nun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007898

You get my point?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007899

Madam, correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007900

Could you please place that on the record?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007901

Well, Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007902

if it's in the GAA,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007903

then it should be,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007904

the funding for that particular project is,

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007905

for that particular project, you can't modify.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007906

Well, I think what I'm pointing out is, in fact,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007907

that ganun nga nangyayari, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007908

I mean, for many years,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007909

ginagawa ng Kongreso, binabawasan ng malaki

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007910

yung DOTR, foreign assisted projects,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007911

and these are specifically,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007912

tied to a source, the loan,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007913

tapos, the freed up space is used for, you know,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007914

for insertion, congressional insertion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007915

Yung mga proyektong dinadagdag.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007916

So, specifically,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007917

pinakamalala yan nung years 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007918

Ayan din yung panahon na pinakamalala,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007919

yung flood control

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007920

insertions, diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007921

So, yun ang point ko.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007922

Okay. That is the point

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007923

I'm making. And now,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007924

the question I am asking

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007925

this Congress is, gagawin na naman ba yun

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007926

ng Kongresong ito?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007927

Pwede pa bang gawin yun ng Kongresong ito?

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007928

Well, Madam Speaker, well, not pertaining to the budget of the DepDev.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007929

That's precisely the reason why we're instituting a lot of the reforms that we have.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-007930

We're trying to be transparent and accountable.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007931

Alright. So nagre-reforman na, so dapat hindi na pwede.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007932

So, klaro, hindi porke 2027, nasa 232 billion ang proposed foreign-assisted projects.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007933

Projects. Tapos kung titignan nyo yung item nyo, nakalagay talaga doon yung loan agreement.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007934

Meron pang serial number, etc., etc., nung loan agreement.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007935

So hindi na pwedeng galawin ito as a source for congressional amendments or insertions.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007936

Okay, that's clear.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007937

Another, the other, yan naman, yung isa naman.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007938

Yan, ang isa pang paborito over the years, PS, personnel services.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007939

Specifically here, we're focusing on miscellaneous personnel benefits fund.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007940

Okay, ano yung miscellaneous personnel?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007941

Para po yan sa dagdag na sweldo, dagdag na binipisyo, o new hiring, new plantilla positions ng gobyerno.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007942

Okay, and what do we see?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007943

Again, we see the same pattern.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007944

In 2016, doon tayo nagsimula, kung ano yung pinroposed sa NEP na MPBF noon,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007945

yun din ang aprobahan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007946

Anong kongreso?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007947

Pero, I mean, even up to, well, ayan, meron na nangyari, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007948

Pero makikita talaga natin, starting in 2020, anong year ba ito?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007949

2022, and especially 2023, we see the same pattern.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007950

NEP, MPBF is 62 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007951

But the GAA, MPBF is, 2023, GAA is 26 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007952

70% lower.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007953

Binawasan ng 70%.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007954

Tapos, and so on.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007955

Again, ang pinakamalala, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007956

So, kailangan matalasa kay Saisaya na ang pinakamalalang mga abuso sa budget, 2024.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007957

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007958

So, MPBF then was 135, but approved in GAA is 29 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007959

29 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007960

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007961

So, ano nangyari doon sa pondo na yun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007962

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007963

Ano nangyari?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007964

Yun yung sinatawag dito colloquially na ginawang source para sa mga insertions.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007965

Tama po ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007966

Am I correct in my analysis?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007967

Madam sponsor?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007968

The DEV cannot confirm.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007969

The DEV cannot confirm.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007970

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007971

Well, I confirm.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007972

And the data shows na ganun po ang nangyari.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007973

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007974

So, my specific concern is with regard to MPBF for 2027.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007975

As you can see, the 2027 proposed is 55 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007976

A little over 55 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007977

Mamaya.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007978

Wala yata yung...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007979

Wala.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007980

Wala pa yung DBM.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007981

Babalik sila.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007982

But isang tinututukan natin dito yung ano eh.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007983

Ito ang paggagalingan ng pagpapataas sa pera.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007984

Personal, economic relief allowance ng mga government employees.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007985

Yan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007986

Lahat kayo rito, government employees.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007987

Yung iba sa inyo, siguro mas malaki ang kita.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007988

Baka hindi nyo masyadong nararamdaman to.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007989

Pero yung pera, yan yung 2,000 pesos a month na allowance.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007990

On top of the basic pay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007991

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007992

Yung pera na yan, 2,000 na yung papuyan na set at 2,000 pesos a month.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007993

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007994

So, it's about time.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007995

Yung subsistence allowance sa mga sundalo last year was practically tripled.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007996

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007997

It cost the government something like...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007998

Baka na ba yun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-007999

20 plus billion nga tayo.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008000

Parang ganun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008001

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008002

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008003

Paano naman yung mga civilian bureaucracy natin?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008004

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008005

So, it's about time.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008006

Actually, mamaya sa DBM, papakonfirm natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008007

Pero, yan ang paggagalingan nun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008008

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008009

Yung dagdag sa pera.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008010

A 1,000 peso increase in pera will require 24 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008011

Given...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008012

2 million national government employees.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008013

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008014

So, 24 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008015

So, kung 2,000 dadagdag, 48 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008016

55 billion yan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008017

Ang point ko lang, again, tatanong ko to sa Committee on Appropriations at sa DepDEP na rin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008018

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008019

Di ba favorable yan para sa mga kamuni?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008020

Gagalawin ba yung MPDF?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008021

Gagawin na naman bang source yan?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008022

Katulad nung ginawa noon, natatapya siya ng malaki.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008023

At tuloy, hindi na mabibigay sa government employees.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008024

Yun po yung tanong.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008025

Please answer.

Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008026

The DepDEP cannot confirm.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008027

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008028

The DepDEP cannot confirm.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008029

Thank you.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008030

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008031

Ngayon, next slide.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008032

Ano nga ba yung...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008033

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008060

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008061

Well, so yun po ang mga...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008062

Let me at this point.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008063

Some of my questions will be more properly addressed to DBM.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008064

So, pero yun po ang nirace natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008065

Nandito na si chair ng Committee on Appropriations.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008066

Ang mga nirace ko po na tanong ay...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008067

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008068

Ano nga ba yung...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008069

Mga tanong ko.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008070

Mga tanong ko ay una, will the Committee on Operations and will this Congress entertain

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008071

major amendments to the infrastructure budget?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008077

So, ibig sabihin, mga dagdag sa whether it's flood control or roads, bridges,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008078

multi-purpose buildings, and so on.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008079

Will we see major changes in the General Appropriations Bill?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008080

So, yun yung isang tanong.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008081

Pangalawa, gagawin bang source?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008082

Kung yes, if yes, gagamitin bang source yung Foreign Assisted Project?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008083

Particular DOTR as well as Miscellaneous Personnel Benefits Fund.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008084

Na historically yun ang mga pangunahing pinagkukunan ng source to fund.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008085

Of course, ang sinasabi natin dito, huwag nyo na gawin yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008086

In the case of DOTR, Foreign Assisted Project, sabi natin, actually there are constitutional and legal issues

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008087

that should...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008088

prohibit that.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008089

Hindi pwedeng i-maintain mo yung ceiling kung tinanggal mo yung source.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008090

Diba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008091

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008092

And as to Miscellaneous Personnel Benefits Fund, especially this year,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008093

ang panawagan natin sa Kongreso, huwag po gagalawin yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008094

It's lower than in previous years and yung mga government employees po natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008095

ay matagalawin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008096

Dahil na pong nag-iintay ng increase sa kanilang pera,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008097

personal economic relief allowance, at yan ang panggagalingan yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008098

So, hands off, please. Do not touch.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008099

Parang yun po ang mensahe natin dito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008100

Okay? Hanggang doon na lang po muna.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-008101

Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-008102

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-008103

Madam Speaker, may we recognize the Honorable Eli San Fernando?

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-008104

Of Kamanggagawa Party-list for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-008105

Representative Eli San Fernando is now recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008106

Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008107

Magandang gabi po sa ating kagalang-galang na sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008108

Noong September 7,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008109

pinirmahan po ng National Capital Region Regional Wage Board

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008110

ang Wage Order No. 28.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008111

Signing on behalf of DEFDEV was ASEC Tolentino.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008112

Bahagi ng proseso sa wage determination

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008113

ang public consultation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008114

Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008115

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008116

Nandoon po ba ang DEFDEV sa public consultation?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008117

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008118

Kinukonfirm po ng DEFDEV, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008119

na nandoon po ang DEFDEV sa ginanap na public consultation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008120

Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, with the indulgence of this honorable chamber,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008121

nagsisinungaling po harap-harapan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008122

ang DEV-DEV.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008123

Wala pong public consultation na naganap, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008124

September 2, 2026.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008125

I was there, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008126

together with labor representatives,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008127

and we were questioning the nature of that meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008128

Wala pong naganap na public consultation, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008129

dahil patagupo na inilunsad ng Regional Wage Board National Capital Region

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008130

ang meeting na iyon.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008131

And the labor representatives, this representation included,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008132

was actually questioning the nature of that meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008133

In fact, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008134

the Regional Director of National Capital Region, DOLE,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008135

said verbatim,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008136

pinupulsuhan lang namin ang mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008137

Not even in the agenda, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008138

na nakalagay ang wage determination.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008139

So again, my question to the Honorable Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008140

meron po bang naganap na public consultation, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008141

Madam Speaker, there was a public hearing.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008142

So a public hearing.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008143

Tama po ba, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008144

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008145

So there was a public hearing on wage determination.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008146

Let it be put on record, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008147

that the DEF-DEF affirms that there was a public hearing

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008148

which was conducted by the Regional Wage Board NCR

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008149

Unto which, DepDev is a member na nagkaroon daw po ng public hearing noong araw na yon, September 2, 2026.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008150

Meron po bang minutes of the meeting na available at hawak ngayon ang DepDev being a member of the Regional Wage Board National Capital Region?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008151

As of the moment, Madam Speaker, there are no on-hand documents of the minutes of the hearing.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008152

Wala pong on-hand na dokumento.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008153

Pero mapoproduce po ba ng DepDev, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, that specific minutes of the meeting wherein nakasulat po sa katitikan ng meeting na yan na nagkaroon ng public consultation, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008154

Madam Speaker, the DepDev can ask the Wage Board for a copy of the hearing.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008155

So when can we have the copy of the minutes of the meeting, Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008156

Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, because it is important. We are talking about 1.1 million minimum wage earners, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008157

The DepDev will request for a copy of the minutes of the meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008158

Will there be a timeline as to when the minutes of the meeting of that particular public hearing will be produced or will be submitted to this chamber, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008159

I will request it now.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008160

I will request as right now, this very moment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008161

Thank you, Madam Sponsor. Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008162

So this representation, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, stands firm that the labor representatives were there and we were actually questioning the nature of that particular meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008163

Second question, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008164

Sa proseso po ng wage determination, kapag may wage order na, dapat pagtibayin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008165

ng National Wages and Productivity Commission.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008166

Yung anumang wage order na ilalabas, DepDev serves as an ex-official vice chair of the National Wages and Productivity Commission.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008167

My question is very straightforward. Nagkaroon ba ng NWPC meeting to affirm wage order number 28?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008168

Yes, Madam Speaker. As per the DepDev.

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Floor Leader

asr-008169

Majority Leader, Madam Speaker, I move to suspend.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-008170

Session is suspended for a few minutes. Session is resumed.

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Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos

asr-008171

Madam Speaker, the majority would just like to make a quick manifestation.

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Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos

asr-008172

As previously discussed with members of the minority, some are willing to address both DEP, DEV, and DBM in the interest of expediency,

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Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos

asr-008173

as Pong Eli San Fernando has earlier signified.

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Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos

asr-008174

So we would also like to recognize the presence of DBM Secretary Kim and his staff in order to answer those questions along with DEP.

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Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos

asr-008175

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-008176

This is noted. Majority Leader, we may proceed.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008177

Thank you, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008178

If I may just repeat my question.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008179

Sa proseso ng wage determination, kapag merong wage order, dapat pagtibayin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008180

ng National Wages and Productivity Commission.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008181

Ngayon, DEP-DEV serves as an ex-official vice chair of NWPC.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008182

The question is, nagkaroon ba ng NWPC meeting to affirm wage order number 28?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008183

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008184

When was this meeting held, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008185

The 11th of September, 2026, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008186

11th of September.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008187

Maganda po na sinabi yan ng ating butihing sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008188

Dahil po sa una,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008189

nang inilabas po ng National Wages and Productivity Commission,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008190

nandun din po ang kinatawang ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008191

Wala pong naganap na NWPC meeting sa Manila Hotel,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008192

nandyan po si Yusik Edelion,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008193

kung saan siya po dapat ang uupo doon bilang kinatawan ng NWPC meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008194

So, ibig sabihin po ba nito?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008195

Talagang tinatago ng NWPC meeting ang pulong kung saan pinagtitibay

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008196

ang sahod ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008197

Madam Speaker, the DepDev confirms that there was a meeting held on the 11th of September, 2026.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008198

Kinukumpirma po, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008199

ng DepDev na may naganap na meeting noong September 11.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008200

Maaari po bang malaman ang kinatawang ito?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008201

Anong oras at saan?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008202

Saan ginanap ang meeting ng NWPC dated September 11, 2026?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008203

Madam Speaker, this said meeting was transpired at Manila Hotel around 1pm.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008204

As for the DepDev?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008205

Parang hindi po sigurado, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, ang DepDev.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008206

Nagkaroon po ng meeting September 11.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008207

Manila Hotel para pagtibayin yung wage order number 28.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008208

A day after ng supposedly meeting ng NWPC para pagtibayin yung wage order 28.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008209

So, my question is, deliberately ba tinatago ng NWPC ang usapin ng sahod ng mga manggagawa?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008212

Madam Speaker, that's not the intention of the DepDev.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008213

That's not the intention.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008214

But it was the result, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008215

Itinago ng NWPC kung saan miyembro ang DepDev yung pag-uusap tungkol sa sahod ng mga minimum wage earners.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008216

We are not just talking about 1, 2, 3 minimum wage earners.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008217

We are talking about 1.1 million minimum wage earners in NCR.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008218

So, would the DepDev clarify this, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008219

Madam Speaker, the DepDev also cites that there were labor representatives and employee representatives present at the meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008220

There were labor representatives and employee representatives at the said NWPC meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008221

The question is, is NWPC deliberately hiding the said meeting?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008222

The question is, is NWPC deliberately hiding the said meeting?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008223

But at least on the part of DepDev, Madam Speaker, the board, well, we can only speak for the representative of DepDev.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008224

And that is not the intention of the DepDev in attending that meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008225

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, kaya ako po binabanggit ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008226

Una, nandun po ang kinatawang ito sa supposedly public consultation na ina-affirm ng DepDev na nangyari daw.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008227

And I am proving them wrong, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008228

There was no public consultation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008229

Nanggaling na mismo yan sa bibig ng regional director ng DOLE-NCR.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008230

And we will question him sa proper time.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008231

Second, sinasabi ngayon ng DepDev na nagkaroon daw ng NWPC meeting a day after nung supposed or original na schedule ng NWPC meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008232

Same hotel, Manila Hotel, itinago sa mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008233

At sinasabi na hindi naman intensyon ng DepDev na itago yung pag-uusap tungkol sa sahod ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008234

But it was the result, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008235

I will not belabor the point on that, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008236

Maganda po na nabanggit na dito sa bulwagang ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008237

Rule 4, Section 5 of the Omnibus Rules on Minimum Wage Determination.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008238

As amended by NWPC Resolution No. 5, Series of 2013.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008239

It provides, and I quote,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008240

Should the Board find urgent and reasonable grounds to commence the Minimum Wage Determination process

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008241

earlier than 60 days prior to the anniversary date of the current wage order,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008242

it shall submit a written recommendation and justification for this purpose to the Commission

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008243

for the latter's consideration and approval within five working days.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008244

Once approved by the Commission, the Board may initiate the Minimum Wage Determination process.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008245

End of quote.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008246

Question.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008247

Nagkaroon po ba ng sapat na justification para maglabas ng panibagong wage order?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008248

Wage order No. 27 was effective July 25 of this year.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008249

And surprisingly, nabiglat, nagulat ang lahat.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008250

May panibago ng wage order.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008251

Yung wage order No. 28.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008252

What was the justification of the Commission and the Regional Wage Board?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008253

As approved by the NWPC wherein?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008254

Depdev is a member.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008255

Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008256

Madam Speaker, this representation is in receipt of a new document.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008261

To correct, the meeting was held on September 10.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008262

September 10 po yung?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008263

Meeting. The NWPC meeting in Manila Hotel.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008264

And the NWPC meeting.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008265

Yes.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008266

What time was it?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008267

Well, at least on the document, it says 1pm.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008268

1 p.m., Madam?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008269

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, niloloko po ang kinatawang ito at ang bulwagang ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008270

I was there 1pm until 5pm.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008271

Kami nagbukas, kami rin ang nagsara.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008272

Umuwi na nga yung mga sekretaryat ng Regional Wage Board.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008273

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, deliberately niloloko ng dep-dep.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008274

Ang mga mambabatas.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008275

Nandun po ako.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008276

Madam Speaker, ito po, picture o.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008277

Yan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008278

Nandun ako sa pangalan ni Sekretary Tolentino.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008279

Madam Speaker, at least on this document, it says that the meeting was held in, well, 10 September 2020, 6 at 1pm at the DAO?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008280

DAO?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008281

DAO!

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008282

Meeting Room.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008283

Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, nandoon po ako sa DAO!

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008284

In fact, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, inantay namin hanggang gabi.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008285

Inuwian na lang kami ng sekretaryat ng Regional Wage Board.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008286

Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker, naiintindihan ko po kung may confusion sa bahagi ng dep-dep,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008287

but someone from the Regional Wage Board NCR is not telling the truth.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008288

Now, how can we?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008289

How can we justify yung budget na hinihingi o pinopropose ng dep-dep kung sa simpleng usapin ng sahot ng mga manggagawa,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008290

hindi masagot ng deretsahan at ng totohanan ang mga manggagawa?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008291

We demand a clarification, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, from the Department of Economy, Planning and Development.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008292

Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008296

Thank you.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008298

Madam Speaker, just to expound also, the representative of DepDev is saying that there was a change in venue.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008299

Unfortunately, the name of the meeting room, it's an unofficial correspondence.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008300

It's the U. However, the recollection is muddy in terms of what particular meeting room they actually went to.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008301

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, I cannot believe this, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008302

Hindi maalala kung saan sila nag-meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008303

Yung Manila room, nakalagay dun mismo anong room.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008304

Makikita, mababasa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008305

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008306

Meron pong nagsisinungaling at nanluloko sa mga manggagawa, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008307

Adjacent, Madam Sponsor, adjacent o katabi nung the room, wala rin pong mga nag-me-meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008308

We know for a fact, because we were there, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008310

Well, Madam Speaker, we understand the concern. Definitely, we share the same concern of the Honorable San Fernando. If it would be beneficial, I think the best course of action, at least at this point in time, there is a list of people who supposedly attended the meeting. We can just give you the list of people

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008311

and we can confirm if the meeting actually took place.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008312

I personally, this representation will help the Honorable San Fernando confirm this also.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008313

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008314

Mahalaga po na napag-uusapan natin ang bagay na ito, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008315

Dahil meron pong hindi malinaw sa proseso ng pagtatakda ng meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008316

Minimum wage at may kalituhang nangyayari na idinulot ng Wage Order 28 at ng Wage Order 27.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008317

And it is surprising, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, na pati ang DepDev who sits as the ex-official vice chair of NWPC,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008318

mukha po silang clueless.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008319

Pero kung binabanggit po ng butihing sponsor na magpoprovide ng mga dokumentasyon,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008320

na nagpapakita na merong naganap na pulong, gusto pong makita ng representasyong yan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008321

At maraming salamat po sa sponsor na tinitiyak na magkakaroon tayo ng kopya ng nasabing pulong.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008322

But let it be put on record, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008323

na kahit po ang DepDev ay lito at hindi alam ang mga espesipikong detalye

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008324

ng pagtitibay ng Wage Order 28,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008325

na bahagi ng kanilang responsibilidad at ng kanilang mandato.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008326

This is unacceptable.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008327

Proper time, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, kapag sumalang na po ang Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008328

sisingilin po natin ang kagawaran na yun, batay sa record at sinasabi ng DepDev ngayon sa deliberasyong ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008329

Susunod po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008330

Sabi po ng Wage Order No. 28 kung saan pumirma ulit ang DepDev.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008331

Sabi po, Wage Order No. 27 never took effect.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008332

Ano pong kalukuhan ito, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008333

Is it the position of DepDev to say that Wage Order No. 27 never took effect?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008334

Kasi pumirma po sila, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008335

Madam Speaker, as for the DepDev, the reason for the non-implementation of Wage Order No. 27 is because

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008336

apparently there was a TRO that was issued the day before the meeting took place.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008337

So, non-implementation is different from the wording of Wage Order No. 28 which specifically say,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008338

Wage Order No. 27 never took effect.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008339

What does that mean in popular parlance?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008340

Ang ibig sabihin po niyan, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, sinasabi ng Regional Wage Board

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008341

na hindi naman nangyari yung dagdag sahod na P85.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008342

Never took effect. Hindi nangyari.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008343

But it was the Secretary of the Department of Labor and Employment who announced it as historic wage increase.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008344

Now, my friends...

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008345

The question again is, is it the position of the DepDev to say that Wage Order No. 27 never took effect?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008346

Madam Speaker, on the part of DepDev, apparently this was a collegial decision.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008347

It was a collegial, but they signed. DepDev signed. So, it is the position.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008348

It's answerable by yes or no.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008349

Okay lang kung...

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008350

Yun ang position ng DepDev, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008351

In the function of that, yes, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008352

Yes. So, it is the position of DepDev to say that Wage Order No. 27 never took effect.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008353

Chapter 3, Section 4, IRR of RA 6727.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008354

15 days upon the publication of any wage order, that wage order shall take effect.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008355

Question.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008356

Na-publish ba yung Wage Order No. 27?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008357

The answer is yes.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008358

Na-isa publiko ba?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008359

The answer is yes.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008360

Thirdly, na-i-announce ba ng mismong kalihim ng DOLE?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008361

The answer is yes.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008362

Why is it the position of DepDev to say that Wage Order No. 27 never took effect?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008363

Never took [unclear].

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008365

The problem is, nagcirculate [unclear].

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008368

Madam Speaker, on the part of DepDev, it's really the TRO.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008369

Apparently, there was a declaration also of the status quo ante.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008370

So, it's because of the TRO.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008371

Yes. Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008372

if I may remind, DepDev,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008373

there was an order coming from Pasig RTC Branch 152.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008374

And the order explicitly say,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008375

let a preliminary injunction be issued upon putting up a bond of 10 billion pesos.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008376

In the previous DOLE budget consideration in the committee,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008377

Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008378

it was the Department of Labor and Employment Secretary himself who said,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008379

he doesn't know.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008380

Meaning, walang nalagay na bond.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008381

So, if there is no bond, then there is no injunction.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008382

The rules of court is very specific about this.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008383

Now, without a bond, walang preliminary injunction.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008384

Indispensable requirement ng preliminary injunction ang bond.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008385

Ngayon, wala pong nailagak na bond.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008386

Therefore, there is no injunction.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008387

If there is no injunction,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008388

it is the position of the office,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008389

the office of the Solicitor General,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008390

abogado ng gobyerno,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008391

na sinasabi nila,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008392

there is no legal impediment in enforcing Wage Order No. 27.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008393

The question again is,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008394

even if that is very clear sa ating mga batas,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008395

why is it the position of DepDev to say that Wage Order No. 27 never took effect?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008396

Madam Speaker, again, just on the part of DepDev,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-008397

it was a collegial decision.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008398

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008399

Ang punto ko po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008400

sa dinami-rami ko pong binanggit ng mga puntos,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008401

mismong DepDev na bahagi ng NWPC

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008402

ay lito, una, sa mga tunay na nangyari at naganap

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008403

leading to the issuance of Wage Order No. 27.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008404

Mas nalito pa tayo lahat dahil may existing Wage Order No. 27

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008405

at naglabas ng panibagong Wage Order No. 28

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008406

kahit labag ito sa rules mismo ng NWPC.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008407

Second point, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008408

hindi nagkaroon ng public consultation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008409

Third point, hindi rin nagkaroon ng meeting ang NWPC

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008410

para pagtibayin yung Wage Order No. 28.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008411

Pero binabanggit kanina, nagkaroon daw ng pulong,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008412

pero hindi rin nilaman.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008413

Malaman o matandaan saan sila nagpulong,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008414

anong oras sila nagpulong, at merong kalituhan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008415

So, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008416

mas nagbibigay ito ng maraming tanong kaysa kalinawan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008417

Kaya ako po binibigyang din ito, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008418

malinaw po kasi na merong wage rollback na nangyari.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008419

Wage Order No. 27, total wage increase amounts to P85.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008420

P60 of which, the first tranche,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008421

effective na since July 25.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008422

That means, kapag in-implement yung Wage Order No. 27,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008423

may retroactive pay ang mga manggagawang minimum wage earner

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008424

ng P60 starting July 25.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008425

So, pumapatak ang metro, mahigit P3,000 na ang naaagaw mula sa mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008426

Hindi po simpleng halaga yan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008427

Malaking tulong yan para sa mga manggagawa, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008428

Ngayon, sa halip na tindigan,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008429

ng NWPC, ng DOLE, kung ano yung kanyang mandato,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008430

dahil iginawad yan ng Kongreso sa visa ng RA 6727,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008431

nakikita po natin na parang isinasantabi o isinusuko

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008432

ng NWPC mismo kung saan pahagi ang DepDev,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008433

yung kanyang responsibilidad at trabaho

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008434

bilang merong exclusive jurisdiction on wage determination.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008435

Yun po ang punto dito, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008436

Mas malaking problema, because of Wage Order No. 28,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008437

wala nang aasahan na retroactive pay yung mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008438

unless otherwise clarified and cleared by the court.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008439

Ang problema pa dito, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008440

because of Wage Order No. 28,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008441

na wala na yung dagdag na P25 sa mga minimum wage earners

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008442

na dapat matanggap nila Enero 2027.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008443

And it will produce another question.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008444

Kung ang posisyon ng NWPC ay para magkaroon ng inovasyon

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008445

maibigay na sa mga manggagawa, yung P60,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008446

ibig sabihin ba magkakaroon ng Wage Order No. 29?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008447

Na magsasabi, magdagdag tayo ng panibagong P25

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008448

para sa mga minimum wage earners.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008449

E di-veniolate na, nilabag na ng NWPC

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008450

yung kanyang sariling rules.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008451

Naglabas ng dalawang wage order sa isang taon

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008452

at ngayon may question kung maglalabas ulit ng panibagong wage order.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008453

Yun po ang punto dito, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008454

Mismong mga regional wage boards, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008455

ay hindi sumusunod sa mga proseso ng batas

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008456

na ginawa para itakda yung minimum wage natatanggap ng mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008457

at yan po yung dahilan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008458

Mga manggagawa na tayo,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008459

una, hindi nang-responsive,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008460

sa pangangailangan ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008461

Ikalawa, nilalabag pa mismo ng mga ahensa ng gobyerno

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008462

kung ano nakasulat sa batas.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008463

Kung hindi nasusunod ang batas,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008464

logical lang na dapat reviewhin o repasuhin ang batas.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008465

Ngayon po, kung nakikita natin na may kaguluhan na nagaganap

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008466

dito sa wage setting determination natin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008467

as enshrined in RA 6727,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008468

nakakapagtaka po, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008469

that the position,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008470

of the Secretary of Dep-Def,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008471

sabi po ay,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008472

legislating a minimum wage

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008473

is not the right thing to do.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008474

Papaano pong bibigyang matwid ng Dep-Def

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008475

na hindi tama ang pagle-legislate

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008476

ng minimum wage

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008477

kung nakikita na natin ngayon

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008478

na malaki ang problema sa mga regional wage boards?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008479

If we're going back to our history,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008480

bakit nagkaroon ng RA 6727

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008483

pinoproteksyonan niya yung wage setting mechanism?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008484

Sabi nung mga nagtulak niyan,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008485

kailangan ma-insulate natin,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008486

mailayo natin mula sa awayan sa politika

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008487

o pamumulitika

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008488

o pangingi-alam ng korte

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008489

yung wage setting determination natin.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008490

That was in 1989.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008491

Ngayon, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008492

nakikita na natin lahat ng kinatatakutan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008493

ng mga gumawa ng batas noong 1989.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008494

ngayon, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008495

na ang niyayari na ngayon.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008496

Pinanghimasukan ng korte

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008497

yung tungkol sa sahod

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-008498

at ikalawa, nilalabag na mismo ng gobyerno

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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kung ano ang nakasulat sa batas

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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na iginawad ng kongresong ito

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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papunta doon sa National Wages and Productivity Commission.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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And what we're going to hear

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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from Secretary Balisakan and Dep-Dev

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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is that legislating a minimum wage

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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is not the right thing to do.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Is it still the position of the government?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Is it still the position of Dep-Dev

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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na hindi po magkaroon ng legislated wage increase

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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or any review on RA 6727

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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which determines and defines wage-setting mechanism?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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The Chair would like to remind Representative San Fernando

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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that his time has expired.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Please answer, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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At least on the part of Dep-Dev,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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the Dep-Dev will just adhere to what the law says

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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with regards to wages

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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and determination of wages.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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The Dep-Dev will just...

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Can you repeat that, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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It would adhere to what the law prescribed

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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with regards to determination of wages.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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as much as I would like to believe that,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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alam niyo po, kanina ko pa po pinaulit-ulit,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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mga batas na po mismo na dapat nilang sundin,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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hindi nila ginagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Mga batas na nakasulat sa ating...

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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na iginawad sa kanila ng kongresyong ito,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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hindi nila ginagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Tapos sasabihin nila sa atin ngayon,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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gagalangin nila kung ano nakasulat sa batas.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Ano ba namang clashing Dep-Dev yan?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Thank you, Representative San Fernando.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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So alam ko po, time's up na po ako, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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At least nabigyan po ng kalinawan,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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ang representasyong ito,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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at sa lahat po ng mga manggagawang minimum wage earner

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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sa NCR at sa buong Pilipinas,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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ito po ang mga economic managers natin.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Puro kalituhan ang ginagawa sa mga manggagawang.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Salamat po.

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

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Madam Speaker, may we recognize

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

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the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

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of the Gabriela Women's Party List

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

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for her interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Representative Sarah Jane Elago

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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of Gabriela Party List

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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is now recognized for her interpellation.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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