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FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 2 Part 2

House Plenary · September 16, 2026

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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No other member from the minority to interpolate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the consideration of budget of DAR for fiscal year 2027.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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So moved, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Maraming salamat po, Majority Leader.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the DAR.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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There is a joint motion from the majority and the minority to terminate the period of sponsorship, debate, and interpolation insofar as the proposed budget of the Department of Agrarian Reform is concerned.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Any objection? Hearing none, said motion is carried.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The period of debate, the sponsorship, debate, and interpolation of the proposed budget of the Department of Agrarian Reform is carried.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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The period of debate, the sponsorship, debate, and interpolation of the Department of Agrarian Reform is hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Madam Speaker, before we move on to the next proposed budget, may we recognize the guests of Assistant Majority Leader, Honorable Daphne Lagon, Congresswoman of the 6th District of Cebu.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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They are from the Municipal and Barangay Officials from the Municipality of Consolacion, Cebu, led by Mayor Teresa Pepito-Alegado, and Vice Mayor Mariana.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Johannes Pepito.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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They are Mayor Teresita Pepito-Alegado, Vice Mayor Johannes Alegado, Kabangahan Barangay Captain Edwin Menoza, N-Council, Kansanga Barangay Captain Peter Cabillada, N-Council, Kasili Barangay Captain Eddie Alilin, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Danglag Barangay Captain Claude Dualdo Ibon-Arendez.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Garing Barangay Captain and ABC President Wesley Alimorin, N-Council, Ugan Barangay Captain Tony Pepito, N-Council, Lamac Barangay Captain Nestos Maglasang, N-Council, Renipga Barangay Captain Russell Balaba, N-Council, Nangka Barangay Captain Neil Congso, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Ponoy Poy Barangay Captain Balaba, N-Council, Panas Barangay Captain Nelson Cutab, N-Council, Pitogo Barangay Captain Alan Claire Madhos, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Poblasyon Occidental Barangay Captain Alary Alegado, N-Council, Poblasyon Oriental Barangay Captain John Hanyel Abinales, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Polog Barangay Captain Glenn Royang, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Pulpogan Barangay Captain Avelino Bihag, Tayod Barangay Fek Kuyos, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Tilhaong Barangay Captain Reggie Lutuaw,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Tolo-Tolo Barangay Captain Earl Anthony Tapayan, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Tugbongan Barangay Captain Paz Barroso, N-Council.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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To the guests of the Honorable Daphne Lagon,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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ang pinakagwapan na congresswoman, Karong Adlawa.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Karong Adlawa, ha?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Of course, the municipal and barangay officials from the Municipality of Consolacion,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Cebu-headed by Mayor Teresa Pepito Alegado.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Mayor, mayang gabiin inyong tanan.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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You are the voice, the inspiration, kamuang haligi o kusog sa kongreso.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Daghan kayong salamat sa inyong pagbisita.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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God bless you always.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

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Moment of suspension, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

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Session suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

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Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Human Rights.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

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Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Commission on Human Rights, namely the Chairperson, Attorney Richard P. Palpal-latoc, Commissioners Attorney Beda A. Epres,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

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Attorney Faydah M. Dumarpa, Justice Monina A. Zenarosa, Judge Maria Amifaith S. Fider-Reyes, together with Executive Director Attorney Jacqueline Ann C. de Guia and Human Rights Violations Victims' Memorial Commission Acting Executive Director Lawrence Charles E. Salazar.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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We acknowledge the presence of the heads and staff of the Commission on Human Rights. Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

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Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate, and I move to recognize the sponsor, Vice Chair Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez of Alona Partylist.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The period of sponsorship and debate is now open, and we recognize the sponsor

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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The budget of the Commission on Human Rights, in the person of Vice Chairperson of Appropriations Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez of Alona Partylist. You may now proceed.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues in the House of Representatives, magandang gabi po sa ating lahat. I rise today to sponsor the fiscal year 2027 budget of the Commission on Human Rights, an independent constitutional institution trusted with protecting the dignity and fundamental rights of every Filipino.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Speaker, allow me to put the CHR budget in perspective through one figure: 0.02%. Out of proposed 7.2 trillion national budget, only PHP 1.273 billion, or around 0.02%, is provided for the CHR under the National Expenditure Program. The Commission proposed 2.749 billion.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Even if Congress were to provide the entire amount, it would only represent around 0.04% of the national budget, from 0.02% to 0.04%. Napakaliit po ng hinihingi ng CHR, but it can make a meaningful difference in its ability to investigate human rights violations, assist victims, prevent abuse, and protect the rights of our people.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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We cannot continue asking the CHR to do more without giving it the resources necessary to fulfill its constitutional mandate. The CHR is not an adversary of government. Kakampi po natin ang CHR sa mabuting pamamahala. A stronger and independent CHR strengthens accountability, protects the vulnerable, and helps build public trust in our institution. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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0.1% is a modest investment for our institution mandated to safeguard the rights of 100% of our Filipino people. For this reason, I respectfully urge this august chamber to support the approval and augmentation of the fiscal 2027 budget of the Commission on Human Rights. Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, and I am now ready to take questions from our distinguished

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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colleagues.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

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Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist is now recognized for her interpolation.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, the Commission on Human Rights Family. Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Unang katanungan ko po, would the Commission agree that the credibility of the Philippines' human rights institutions is itself an important component of the country's credibility in the international community?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Yes po Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Thank you Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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The recent failure of our country's bid for a non-permanent seat in the United Nations Security Council,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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losing

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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the Asia-Pacific contest to Kyrgyzstan in June 2026 has been interpreted by some as a human rights warning.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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In fact, prominent international human rights organizations including the International Coalition for Human Rights in the Philippines

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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have publicly interpreted this electoral setback as a direct reflection of ongoing concerns regarding our domestic human rights record,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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especially during the Duterte administration.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Does the Sponsor share this view?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Yes, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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What role exactly did this unresolved human rights violation, especially in the past administration, play in this outcome?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Chair,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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one of the Commission's significant accomplishments has been the implementation of the Task Force on Zero Backlog Cases,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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which substantially reduced the number of pending cases and helped clean up and reconcile our case data.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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In particular,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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the Commission has identified 493 cases for reinvestigation in 2024,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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and the Task Force has directed of 289 cases reinvestigated in 2025.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Of these 289 reinvestigated cases, 140 cases are currently for disposition by the TF.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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The Task Force also successfully reviewed and evaluated these cases identified for reinvestigation,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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and has begun drafting the corresponding resolution for disposition.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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This process remains ongoing, with the Commission committed to completing the disposition of these cases by the end of the year, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Thank you, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Yung mga binanggit niyo po ay mga accomplishments po ba yan ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Yes po, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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But I was actually trying to find out if, when I asked a while ago,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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if the Human Rights Record of the Philippines, as seen by the international community,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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had something to do with our lost bid to the UNSC,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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and to which you said in the affirmative,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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ang gusto ko pong malaman nga,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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ano po itong mga unresolved cases in the past administration that you think ay nakakapag-contribute doon sa paningin na iyon ng international community?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Chair, Representative Montes,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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for example po, ang ating pong mga naka-accomplish po ay katulad po ng red tagging and EJA.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Okay, thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Yung mga ganyan po, nabanggit niyo po yung mga red tagging EJK,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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has the Commission

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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examined

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Whether these concerns ng international community, consistent po ba yan sa findings ng Human Rights Commission?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Po, ano po yung iniisip ng international community?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Yan din po ba ang paningin ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Yes po, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Okay po. Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Can CHR identify programs, especially in the 2027 budget

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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that have demonstrated measurable improvements in compliance with human rights standards?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Ano po yung mga programang nakapaloob dyan sa 2027 budget natin na magpapakita o magpapatunay na meron nga from the past administration, meron po tayong improvement ngayon?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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A human rights-centered national protection response mechanism.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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It integrates

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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early warning, victim supports, and rapid response mechanism.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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So, meron po tayo ng mga tinatawag po nating programa, katulad po ng Bantay Karapatang Pantao,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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which detect, monitor, and prevent human rights risks through data and intelligence.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Kalinga Karapatang Pantao provides holistic, victim-centered support, protection, and recovery services.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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At syempre po, meron din po tayong Tugon Karapatang Pantao, which responds quickly, coordinates,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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intervention, and ensure protection and accountability.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Let me move on to my next question.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Just this morning, during the budget deliberations of the Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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the Sponsor, Congressman Marcy Cudoro, made mention of the necessity to include the Commission on Human Rights

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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as a part of the Board of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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If ever we include the CHR in the DDB, of course, by way of an amendment to the law creating the DDB,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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how do you envision your role in shaping drug-related policy?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Chair, alam niyo po, mandato po ng CHR, lahat po ng karapatang pantao ay lagi po natin ang gagampanan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Pero doon po sa, kanina po sa Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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siyempre po, more than willing po na makisama, makisuporta ang CHR,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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at magkaroon po kami ng sarili natin position paper sa lahat po ng mga cases na drug-related po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Actually, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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what the DDB, what the sponsor of the DDB budget really wanted was to include the CHR

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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in the board as to help in formulating policies, kasi policymaking po yung Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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to help in the formulation of policies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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So, alam po natin naging issue yung mga EJK, mga drugs in the past.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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So, I think it really is necessary to include the CHR there.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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So, halimbawa po, kasi I'm looking at, I'm willing to sponsor a bill tungkol po dyan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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I'm looking at, for instance, in strengthening oversight sa human rights in drugs enforcement strategies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Ano ang pwedeng maitulong ng CHR in that regard?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Okay. Sagutin ko po muna yung unang question nyo po ulit, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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The DDB, no. The DDB has not included.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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The DDB has not engaged with CHR, but the CHR is more willing to be an observer po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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With regards po sa drug-related po, CHR proposes that drug use to be treated as a public health issue.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Kasi po, drug use is currently being over-criminalized where users who need services to address their dependence or use are instead treated as criminals and jails.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Drug cases contribute to more than 70% of the jails.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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So, sa lahat po ng mga pinupuntahan po ng CHR, Madam Chair, 70% po ang mga nakakulong po sa ating mga PDLs po natin.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Yeah. What you said was as observer. Is that correct? Did I hear you right?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Yes, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Hindi po, hindi po sang-ayon na maging permanent seat sa board yung CHR.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Kasi kung ang pagbabasehan po natin,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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nung kung nga po una, kung naka-apekto yung mga EJK, mga problema ng human rights violations doon sa drugs,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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hindi po ba dapat nandodon din ang CHR?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Kasi kung may mga usapin po tayo ng paglabag ng human rights doon sa mga biktima ng mga EJKs.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Chair, ulitin po namin, we cannot because we have to maintain our independence po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Okay.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Ibig sabihin po, kung sakasakali, your participation would only be limited to being an observer

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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and not contributing to the policies of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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We can contribute po. We can contribute po, Madam Chair, but we cannot sit as a regular member of the board, as an independent body.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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So, yan po yung mandato sa atin ng konstitusyon.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Opo. Naiintindihan po natin yun, pero parte po din ng trabaho.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Human rights ng CHR ang pagprotekta sa mga vulnerable grupo, katulad ng mga kabataan,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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and especially women, because the CHR has a gender—is the gender ombud.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Now, these people, yung mga youth, yung mga women, sila usually ang nabibiktima.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Ang karapatan nila ay nayuyurakan, natatapakan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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So, tungkulin ng CHR, then na maprotektahan sila.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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So, how do we reconcile now this mandate and this duty?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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If you are saying na hindi yan mandato po ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Chair, kung Montes, I'm with you sa karapatan po ng lahat ng ating mga vulnerable sectors,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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but syempre po, CHR is not a part of the executive, but we can monitor and we are the advisor of the government.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Okay, thank you so much, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Ang sa akin lang po, it's also a matter of...

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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you know, balancing security and rights in policymaking.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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If the CHR does not see it that way,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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then perhaps there are other ways for which CHR can be able to contribute to policies

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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that affect human rights in the issue of drugs.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Chair, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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CHR seats as observed in all interagency bodies,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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but it is also an activity...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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It is also an activity for which CHR can participate in awarding recommendations to different agencies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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If that being so, Mr. Chair, kung nakaupo pala talaga doon,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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ano po ang naging contribution ng CHR noong mga panahon na may mga aligasyon ng paglabag ng karapatang pantao

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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sa mga tokhang, sa mga EJ case, and all,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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na naging sanhi kung bakit napasama yung ating iman,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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kahit sa international community.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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We are having our undertaking its own investigations.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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So lahat po ng cases na nagkakaroon po tayo being forwarded po sa CHR,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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unang-una po tinatanggap po natin yan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Nagkakaroon po tayo ng investigation,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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at syempre po, hanggang doon lamang po ang ating mandato,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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we cannot file cases.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Pero we can endorse, recommend sa mga different agencies po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000194

Okay. Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000195

Now let me move on.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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I was just exploring the possibility based on the pronouncements of Congressman Teodoro

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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during the budget deliberation this morning.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000198

So let me move on to another topic.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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Recently, the CHR published...

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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I would like to emphasize that it provides free information, education, and campaign or IEC materials

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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to individuals and organizations to promote human rights,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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particularly among vulnerable, marginalized, and disadvantaged sectors.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000203

May I ask the CHR, does the Commission specifically maintain IEC materials

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

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on the protection of women and violence, discrimination, harassment,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000205

and other violations of human rights?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000206

Madam Speaker, yes po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000207

Dire-direcho po ang ating...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000208

IEC materials information sa ating pong komisyon.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000209

Opo. Itong mga materials na ito, where do they exist?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000210

Online po ba?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000211

O are they distributed in far flung barangays, digital materials po lang ito?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000212

Because sa pagkakaalam ko po, parang online na, no?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000213

So, both physical and online po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000214

Available po yan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000215

So may mga distribution din.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000216

Channels tayo.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000217

How do we distribute it so that...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000218

Yes po. Nagkakaroon po tayong...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000219

Actually po, meron pong mga visitations sa various organizations,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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sa ating pong mga barangays, municipality,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000221

na umiikot po ang ating pong komisyon.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000222

Opo. Opo.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000223

How much po of your 2027 budget is allocated for the production,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000224

printing, and dissemination of these materials?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000225

Magkano po?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000226

Ang...

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000227

Nakapaloob po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000228

Opo. Sa 2027 budget nila.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000230

Madam Speaker, it's P94,643,000 ang aming proposed for 2027.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000231

Out of the P94,000,000, magkano ang halaga specifically targeting women?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000232

Out of the P94,000,000, ilan po doon ang halagang specifically nakatarget sa production of materials for women po?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000233

For women?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000234

Opo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000235

Naka-lump sum po siya, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000236

So wala pong na-specific for women, for children; lump sum po siya para sa lahat po ng sectors.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000237

Kasi nga po, Madam Speaker, medyo maliit po ang allocation po natin para sa buong Pilipinas po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000238

Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000239

But I asked a while ago if there were materials specifically for,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000240

addressing violence against women, and meron po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000241

So ibig sabihin po, ang nilalabas niyong materials, general na po yun.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000242

Walang specific IEC material na para lang sa, that addresses gender violence.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000243

Meron po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000244

Meron po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000245

So out of this yun po sana ang gusto kong itanong, kung magkano, and ano na lang po siguro, doon sa allocation na yun,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000246

ano po ang target natin na maabot ng mga kababaihan?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000247

Half of our population, 50% is women, ano po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000248

So ano po, maliit po ang budget ninyo, paano po natin maaabot o masasaklaw ang karamihan ng ating mga kababaihan?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000249

Lalo na po yung mga nasa kanayunan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000250

Madam Speaker, ang aming pong GAD budget for 2027 ay 77 million pesos.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000251

And doon po yun napupunta?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000252

Yes po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000253

Okay po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000254

Maraming maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000255

Anyway, I still have a lot of questions but I committed to squeezing everything in.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000256

So siguro, pang huli na lamang po, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000257

nais ko na lamang pong ipahayag na ang kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa kapakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan o 4K

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000258

ay kaisa ng human rights.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000259

Commission on Human Rights na ipagtangkol at isulong ang karapatang pantao sa harap ng malaking hamon na tugunan ang mga problema ng human rights

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000260

sa ating bansa, nais din nating hikayatin ng CHR na palawakin ang saklaw ng kanilang trabaho, patibayin ang pagganap ng tungkulin

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000261

at tiyakin na ang bawat pisong ipinagkakaloob ng taong bayan ay tinutumbasan ng pananagutan at kongkretong resulta.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000262

Sa ganitong paraan,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000263

maipapakita natin na ang pondo ay tunay na giging proteksyon at katarungan para sa mamamayan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000264

Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor. Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000265

[unclear] Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-000266

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Antonio L.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-000267

Tinio of ACT Teacher Partylist.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000268

Representative Antonio Tinio of ACT Teacher Partylist is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000269

Salamat po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000270

Madam Speaker, ang tanong ko po ay kaugnay sa drug war, sa drug war ng nakaraang administrasyon ni dating Pangulong Duterte.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000271

Yung extrajudicial killing.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000272

At yung pagpaslang ng libu-libong mga kababayan nating Pilipino.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000273

Isang malaking tagumpay po para sa naghahangad ng justisya, sa mga naghahangad ng justisya sa ating lipunan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000274

sa mga biktima ng extrajudicial killing sa kanilang mga pamilyang naiwan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000275

ang pagkaka-aresto.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000276

At paglilitis kay dating Pangulong Duterte sa International Criminal Court.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000277

So mahalagang tagumpay po yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000278

At alam natin, hindi natatapos ang pagpapanagot kay Pangulong Duterte.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000279

Bagaman siya ang, tama lang, siya bilang Pangulo, siya ang pinakamalaking isda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000280

Sa...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000281

nag-anap na crimes against humanity.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000282

Alam din natin na yung ICC nag-issue na ng warrant laban sa kanyang kanang kamay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000283

Yung dati niyang PNP chief naging senador, ngayon ay nagtatago sa warrant,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000284

Sen. Bato de la Rosa, at sinasabi na mayroon pang ibang mga warrant na may issue.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000285

Pero alam din natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000286

na yung accountability para sa mga pagpaslang na iyan ay hindi limitado sa mga nasa pinakataas.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000287

Yung chain of command at yung dugo ng extrajudicial killings ay mula sa taas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000288

dadalo yan sa hanggang sa panggitna, sa antas na panggitna hanggang sa pinakababa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000289

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000290

Sa mga aktual na mga opisyal at rank and file ng PNP, among others,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000291

na aktual na nagpatupad,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000292

nung mga inutos sa taas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000293

yung aktual na mga pumatay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000294

So kaya po napakahalaga na sa loob ng ating bansa at sa pangunguna ng ating mga institusyon

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000295

ay magpatuloy ang trabaho na...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000296

ng pag-iimbestiga at pagpapanagot sa lahat ng naging sangkot sa extrajudicial killings

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000297

sa ngalan ng peking drug war na ito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000298

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000299

Kaugnay nun ng ang isa sa mga institusyon na inaasahan natin na magsagawa at magtuloy

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000300

sa napakahalagang gawaing ito ay ang Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000301

No? At...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000302

Last year ay nagpahayag ang Commission on Human Rights na nagbukas sila ng imbestigasyon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000303

review and investigation of several hundred mga cases of drug war killings.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000304

Pwede po bang for the record ay mabanggit lang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000305

ilan po yung mga...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000308

kabuo ang kaso na sinimulang investigahan muli ng Commission on Human Rights?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000309

Madam Speaker, in particular, the Commission has identified 493 cases for reinvestigation in 2024

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000310

and the task force has directed of 289 cases reinvestigated in 2025.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000311

Of the...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000312

Of these 289 reinvestigated cases, 140 cases are currently for disposition by the task force.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000313

The task force has also successfully reviewed and evaluated these cases identified for reinvestigation

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000314

and has begun drafting the corresponding resolution for disposition.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000315

So, this process remains ongoing with the Commission committed to completing the disposition

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000316

of these cases by the end of this year.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000317

Ayun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000318

So, yun lang po ang gusto natin ay makuha yung update.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000319

So, for 2024, nabanggit niyo po ilang kaso?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000320

493 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000321

493 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000322

Tapos for 20...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000323

25?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000324

25.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000325

289 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000326

289 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000327

At sa 289 cases na yan, 140 po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000328

Tama po ba?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000329

120 cases was transmitted and had undergone preliminary evaluation by the EGK task force.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000330

Ah, 120 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000331

And then, yung for resolution na po, pending resolution ay ilan po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000332

Ito na po yun.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000333

Ito na po yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000334

Okay.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000335

Yung 120 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000336

120 po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000337

120?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000338

Yes po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000339

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000340

So, in a communication to this representation, the chair of CHR, Richard Palpalatok, mentioned

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000341

that the CHR would provide an official report on the 140 po ang sabi rito, 140 drug war-related

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000342

cases for disposition slash resolution.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000343

So, which figure?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000344

Which figure should we consider as official?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000345

120 or 140?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000346

As of today po, 140 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000347

140 po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000348

40, hindi 20.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000349

140 cases po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000350

Ayun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000351

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000352

So, it is indeed 140 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000353

So, yun lang po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000354

Ang gusto lang po nating marinig ay...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000355

na at least by the end of the year, of the over 600 cases mentioned, merong for disposition

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000356

na 140 by the end of the year.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000357

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000358

We will expect that update.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000359

Pero, ano po yung mangyayari dun sa natitira?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000360

Yung mga 2024 cases at saka yung iba pang 2025?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000361

Ano po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000362

Ano po ang mangyayari sa mga iyon?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000363

Dire-direcho pa rin po yung investigation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000364

Dire-direcho pa rin po yung investigation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000365

So, makakaasa po tayo na bukod dito sa 140 na target na ma-resolve at magbibigay ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000366

ulat ang CHR kaugnay nito ay tuloy-tuloy pa rin po yung investigation dun sa remaining

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000367

cases na nabanggit nyo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000368

Tama po ba?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000369

Tama po kayo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000370

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000371

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000372

So, again, we thank the sponsor for putting on record this commitment of the CHR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000373

Now, we will expect, of course, through the Committee on Appropriations, we will expect

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000374

the report on the disposition of the 140 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000375

Katulad po ng sinabi natin, well, CHR po ang isa sa mga natatanging

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000376

institusyon sa ating lipunan na nagtutuloy

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000377

pa rin ng imbestigasyon sa extrajudicial killings during the Duterte, under the Duterte

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000378

Administration in the name of the War on Drugs.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000379

Napakahalaga po na ituloy ang laban na ito para sa justisya.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000380

So, muli, maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000381

Madaming salamat po sa sponsor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000382

At pagbati po sa CHR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-000383

Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000384

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-000385

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Kaka Bag-ao of the Lone District of Dinagat

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-000386

Island to interpolate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000387

Representative from the Lone District of Dinagat Island, Representative Kaka Bag-ao is now recognized

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000388

for her interpolation.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000389

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000390

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000391

Madam Speaker and Madam Sponsor, may ikli lang po para umabotay sa DOLE.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000392

Last year po, sa budget hearing last year, parang halos kami lahat sa minority ang haba ng

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000393

debate namin para paglaban yung budget ng CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000394

Kasama po ako doon.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000395

Kailang nalulungkot ako sa ilan sa mga namin.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000396

Ang nababalitaan ko, babahagyan ko lang po kayo ng ilan at sana po ay masagot nyo ito

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000397

kasi ang pinagagalingan ko din ay hindi lang regular na text message, kundi conversations

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000398

mula sa human rights organizations, sa inyong mga constituencies, sa human rights work at medyo may

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000399

pagka-dismaya po sa performance.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000400

Performance ng CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000401

Nalo na na pinakamahalagang batas ito para sa, ahensya ito para sa ating lahat.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000402

Umpisahan ko na lang po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000403

So, yung term ng, term ng en banc ay seven years at mula nang mabuo ito noong 1987

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000404

ay nagkaroon na ng anim na en banc groups.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000405

Lahat po kayo.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000406

Mula kay CHR at sa buong en banc ay appointed for a seven-year term without reappointment

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000407

until 2029.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000408

In 2027, year five of seven na po ng inyong termino bilang en banc.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000409

Dalawang taon na lang, tapos na yung termino.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000410

Kaya ang tanong ko po, Madam Sponsor, ay Madam Chair, ay Madam Speaker, ay by the end

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000411

of their term in 2029, ano talaga ang target?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000412

Ang target na may iwan ng en banc.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000413

Specifically po, marami po ang tanong at tingin ko sana po masagot natin ito. Marami po ang tanong mula po sa ibang human rights organizations na walang strategic plan.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

asr-000414

Ang CHR from 2022 to 2025 na pinag-uusapan, ina-update, kahit nga po yung pinaka-strategic plan ay hindi makita ng mga tumutulong at kasama ninyo nagpapatupad ng mga CHR programs.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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So, paano po daw nila manalaman kung yung 2027 budget ay nakahanay sa plano na ito?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Kung wala namang malinaw na presentation ng milestones, targets, at dalawang taon na lang ay matatapos na ang inyong termino tungkol sa strategic plan ng CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Pwede ho ba nyo akong bigyan ng kaliwanagan tungkol sa tanong na ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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The Sixth Commission conducted its strategic planning in 2023 and issued its strategic plan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Last November 29, 2023.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Last year po, the Sixth Commission held its midterm assessment and its strategic planning with the latest MTA and STRAT plan has already been approved and is due for cascading.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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2027 thrusts and priorities: Human Rights Protection Program, continuing partnership and strengthening collaboration with key government agencies and other stakeholders.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Draft protocols for the conduct of investigation on journalist safety

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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and media freedom.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Implementation of the expanded national monitoring mechanism and deployment of the Protection sa Karapatang Pantao program

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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and its subprograms,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Bantay Karapatang Pantao

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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and Tugon Karapatang Pantao.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Pero kung ganyan lang din naman ang laman ng inyong strategic plan,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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baka kailangan po talaga nating balikan ito paunawa lahat.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Kasi marami po akong kinonsulta din na human rights organization,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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bakit may gano'ng assessment.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Siguro maaring may nakasulat sa papel, pero ibigyan ko lang din po kayo na example.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Halimbawa, dadagdagan ko lang po yung example ni Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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dun sa mga inaasahan ng mga human rights program.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Halimbawa po inaasahan natin kagaya ng pag-review ng ating status sa ICC,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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yung status quo.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Ito po yung mga example.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Isang kongkretong example ka rin po,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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mahigit sampung specialist na ang nakaata sa CHR katulad na anti-torture law

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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and anti-forced disappearances law.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Pero maliban sa dalawang bilyon para sa Magna Carta of Women,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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halos lahat ng ito ay walang matinong line item

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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at walang matinong target at work plan mula sa CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Isa din kongkreto yung paghilom o yung healing intervention

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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leading to optimum management program for victims of torture-enforced disappearances.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Isang batas na ang naging mayakda pa ay si former Representative Edsel Agman

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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at Republic Act 10353 or the Anti-Enforced and Involuntary Disappearance Act of 2012.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Hindi naman.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Hindi naman po natin.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Gusto ko sabihin, kahit po sabihin natin marami tayong na lahat ng issue ay human rights issue,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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alam natin na may pangangailangan na mag-streamline, mag-focus, tingnan talaga.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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At kung babalikan ko ang definition sa pagkakaintindi ko kaano po ang mandate

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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ng isang human rights institution ay sana ay mag-focus para sa mga civil and political rights issue resolution.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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So,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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ang pwede ko siguro po para hindi humaba ang debate tungkol dun sa meron, wala,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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ini-inform ang public, pinapatupad, kulang, hindi nalalagay yung inaasahan,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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pwede po ba ako humingi ng kopya,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Mr. and Madam Sponsor ng work plan for 2027 ng CHR

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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at yung sinasabi ninyong meron,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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na meron kayong,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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na-formulate na strategic plan bula sa Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Hindi ko na rin po po mababanggitin ang mga civil society organizations na nagpahatid ng liham na ito

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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para sabihin sa inyo na sana po, no,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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gaya ko po na aktibong nanginiwalang dapat laging mapondohan ang CHR

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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at ayokong laging nakabimbin kayo sa isang libong budget,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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kapiranggot na budget,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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masakit may pakinggan yun.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Pero kung ang makikinig ko pong kwento bago ko po ako tatayo dito ay,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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mula dun sa mga nag-advocate din ng human rights,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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ay parang hindi sila masyadong tutuwa sa ugnayan.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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At pagbibigay natin ang informasyon,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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hihiling na po ako at mag-commit po sana kayo agad sa akin ngayon,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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pwede ko ho bang mahingi yung 2022 to 2029 strategic plan?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Pwede ko ho bang mahingi yung 2027 budget na nakahanay ang mga planong ito?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Lalo na ang commitment na magbigay ng focus sa mga human rights program

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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kagaya na anti-enforced disappearances act implementation.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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At sana po yung mga hinihingi ng ibang organizations ay matugunan po natin,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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hindi lang po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Sa press release at Facebook conversations,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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yun po, kung pwede ko bang mahingi ang ganong commitment na dalawa po,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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isang detalyado para sa 2027 at isang work plan nyo for [unclear]

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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para sigurado kung hindi ako maghihintay ng press release na sagot sa tanong ko.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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We will provide the necessary documents po sa ating kasamahan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Regards po sa lahat po ng data na hinihingi po ninyo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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And also po sa mga binanggit nyo po na unfunded laws,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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wala po talagang kaukalang budget po ito.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Pero ganun pa man, ay ginagawa po ng komisyon ang kanilang responsibilidad

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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sa pamamagitan po ng pagbibigay nga po muna ng mga position papers.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Actually po, marami pong mga nakasulat na mga nagawang mga programs and projects ang komisyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Pwede rin po namin itong ibigay si inyo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Magkasamahan para meron din po kayong ma-report sa inyo pong mga civil society group.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Pero matanong ko lang,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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humingi ba kayo ng pondo para mapondohan ang unfunded mandates na ito?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Kagaya ng enforced disappearances, anti-enforced disappearances law, anti-torture law?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Humingi po ba kayo?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Chair, yes po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Actually po, three consecutive years na po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Since po nung 6 Committees.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Commission conducted po, nag-request na po ang komisyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Taon-taon po para po sa ating unfunded laws.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Specifically po sa anti-torture law and anti-enforced disappearances?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Yes po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Siguro po kailangan natin, magkano pong hinihingi nyo?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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At meron po ba kayong resibo doon sa paghingi ng pondong nyo?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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From last...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Actually po, yan po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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I-present po namin doon sa budget presentation po natin during ating committee meeting from previous years po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Siguro po kasi parang nagpapasapakasahan din ang maraming ahensya para sabihin na

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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sino ang ahensya na dapat magkaroon ng mandato para sa paghingi ng pondo para sa implementasyon ng mga batas na ito.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Pero dalalam natin na dapat ito talaga ay malagak sa CHP.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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At sa CHR, dapat ay naging malinaw kung saan dadalhin din ang pondong.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Speaker, bigyan ko lang po kayo ng ilang datos para po sa mga nire-request po natin sa unfunded laws.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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For example po sa ating special laws, yung pong RA-9851, International Humanitarian Law of 2009.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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So nire-request po namin ito ng 15 million.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Yung pong ating RA 9262,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Anti-Violence Against Women and Their Children Act of 2004, 6 million.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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RA-11036, Mental Health Act, 11 million.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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RA-11188, Special Protection of Children in Situation of Armed Conflict Act, 350,000.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020, 14 million.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Anti-Torture Act of 2009, 4 million.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Anti-Inforced Disappearance Law of 2012, 6 million.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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RA-Magna Carta of Women, 6 million.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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So ito po ay 3 years na po hanggang ngayon po ay hindi po nabibigyan ng budget.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Kaya po siguro maganda rin makita sa inyong milestone, identification sa inyong 10-year program.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Saan po natin, paano po natin sasabihin na marami?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Paano po tayong nagawa?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Siguro din po, hindi naman po din tayo hihintulang sa pagkasabing dahil hindi siya napupondohan,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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ay wala na rin tayong gagawin about it.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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So, baka lang po, Madam Sponsor, baka humingi po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Kasi ang marami po sa tanong na ito, ang pinakamahalagang mga tanong na ito,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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ay nagagaling din po sa mga kasamahan natin sa civil society organizations na nagtataka.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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At nagtatanong kung saan pumupunta yung accomplishments ng commission sa pag-realize ng targets niya para sa mga pagtapos ng kanilang termino bilang member ng NBank.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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So, baka po pwede din ako magtanong kailan ko po makikita yung dokumentong yun para po malaman natin at maibalik din natin sa mga samahan na ito na,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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ito po ang pwede natin i-review at tingnan para pakita natin yung supportang maaari natin ibigay sa CHR.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Speaker, we will provide po necessary documents. Magsasubmit po kami sa inyo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Sabi po ng komisyon, sabi po ng ating chairman Richard Pagpalatok, kahit hanggang bukas daw po ay magproprovide daw po kami ng data sa inyo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Kahit bukas po,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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hindi po kahit bukas.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Bukas po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Bukas po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao

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Abagahan ko yun na Madam Sponsor. Maraming po salamat. Yun lang po sa ngayon ang gusto kong maipahatid. Thank you so much Madam Speaker at sa lahat po na bubuo ng komisyon.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

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Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

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Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Tungkol sa nailabas na ulat ng Commission on Human Rights nitong April 7, tungkol sa panawagan ng dagliang aksyon para tugunan ang mga kondisyon at mga gaps para sa child protection sa ilang bahay pag-asa,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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sa buong bansa. Ito po yung ating mga facilities na magtitiyak sana na may rehabilitative, may digtas na espasyo para sa mga CICL na matugunan yung pangangailangan para ho sila ay makabalik muli sa ating society, makapagpatuloy ng pag-aaral at matiyak ang karapatan ng mga bata.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Ang ilan sa mga na-document na seryosong issues ng CHR ay tungkol sa mga gaps sa implementation ng Juvenile Justice and Welfare Act.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Nandito rin po ang violence during a child's apprehension, ill-treatment by facility personnel, and facilities that are designed more like jails than safe spaces for children.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Madam Speaker, nakikita rin po ang ganitong sitwasyon sa nailabas na report.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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ng Children's Legal Rights and Development Center tungkol naman sa mga torture cases at abuso sa mga bata, sa mga bahay pag-asa, ganon din po sa iba't ibang mga facilities sa buong bansa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Ang tanong po natin para sa Commission on Human Rights, mula po ma-issue ninyo ang ulat na ito, naglabas din po kayo ng detalyado na situation report, meron na po bang tugon ang mga relevant agencies kung paano matitiyak na may aksyon?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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sa mga kasong ito.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Speaker, meron po tayong datos sa katanungan po ni...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Last Tuesday po, we presented sa isang forum lahat po ng mga government agencies.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Ito pong inyong mga tinanong ngayon, Kong Ilago.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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We presented po ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Madam Speaker, bukod sa ating pinakahuli na situation report, meron din tayong updated na data at information tungkol sa kalagayan ng ating bahay pag-asa facilities.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Meron na ba tayong coordination? Present din po ba sa inyong ginanap na forum, halimbawa ang DSWD, para investigahan ang ganitong mga kaso?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Speaker, yes po. Bukod po sa DSWD, nandoon din po ang PNP, ang DILG at AFP po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Madam Speaker, meron ding mahalagang center ang CHR tungkol sa pagtataguyod ng karapatan ng mga bata, ang Child Rights Center.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Sa ngayon po ba, magkano po ang nakalaan na pondo para sa Child Rights Center?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Madam Speaker, muli at tulad po ng ating paninindigan noong budget briefing, ang mga policy center na ito ay susi para matiyak natin na ang ating mga aksyon, mga desisyon, mga posisyon sa iba't ibang issue,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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lalong-lalo na sa paggamit ng pondo ng ating bayan, ay nagagabayan ng datos.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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At ang sinasabi ngayon, Madam Speaker, nangangailangan na tugunan natin agad itong nakakaalalaan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Mga kaso ng torture at child protection gaps sa ating bahay pag-asa facilities.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Naka-lump sum po siya sa ating

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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policy program para po sa formulation and advocacy of human rights

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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policies,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Plans and Programs and Monitoring Implementation of International Human Rights, nagkakahalaga po siya ng 79 million pesos.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Gayun din po sinusuportahan natin.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Alam ko ho na malayo pa iyan doon sa mga kinakailangan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Hindi lang po hinihiling pero pinapanawagan ng ating mga policy centers para sa sapat na pondo para mapagpatuloy ang kanilang mahalagang trabaho.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, tungkol sa Human Rights Violations Victim Memorial Commission.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Base po sa General Appropriations Bill na ating tinatalakay ngayon,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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bumaba ang budget ng Human Rights Violations Victim Memorial Commission mula sa 62,504,000, naging 61,174,000 na lamang.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Ano po ang dahilan ng pagbaba nito?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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At sa ngayon po, maari ba tayong bigyan ng update?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Kung...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Ano na ang status ng pagtatayo o yung pagtatayo ng mga dapat matapos ng komisyon na ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Madam Speaker, kasi po ang ating capital outlay po ngayon ay zero ang allocation.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Wala pong nakalagay ngayon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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So compared po last year, kahit po paano, meron po tayong capital outlay.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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Ngayon pong 2020, for 2027 po,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

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zero allocation po tayo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000592

Madam Speaker, hingin na rin po natin muli yung detalye tungkol dito at maisumite sa representasyon na ito mula sa kababaihan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000593

Ngayon naman po tungkol sa naiulat na nawawala na trust fund ng mga PDL sa CIW, sa Correctional Institute for Women.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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At dito po, naiulat din sa kapulungan na ito na may aabot sa 60%.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000595

At ang tindig dito ng CHR ay dapat magkaroon ng independent probe sa nawawalang CIW-PDL trust fund.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000596

Maari ba tayong bigyan ng update tungkol sa nasabing independent investigation?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000597

At paano matitiyak din ang Kongreso na magagamit nito ang kanyang kapangyarihan sa oversight para matiyak na magagawa ng CHR ang kanyang trabaho?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000598

Na kung meron mang dapat silipin, dapat gawin o mabago para mapagtibay ang palisiya para magawa ang independent probe, ay magawa natin ito.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000599

Madam Speaker, until now ongoing po ang investigation.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000600

PDLs raise allegations regarding irregularities in the handling, accounting, and release of funds under the CIW-PDL trust fund,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000601

including an alleged discrepancy.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000602

Madam Speaker, sinusuportahan ng representasyon na ito ng kababaihan ang paglulunsad ng independent probe ng Commission on Human Rights sa nasabing issue.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000603

Hindi biro ang abot sa 6 million pesos na nawawala.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000604

Dapat may malinaw na mapanagot tungkol dito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000605

Habang tinitiyak din natin na yung capacity ng CHR na magsagawa ng ganitong mga independent probe, magawa nila ng nasa oras.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000606

Hindi lang po ito tungkol sa pananagutan, sa accountability, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000607

Sa tingin po natin, dapat meron ding malinaw na direksyon paano ba mababalik yung mga nawawalang mga pondo na yan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000608

At paano natin matitiyak na hindi na mauulit ito muli sa ating mga facilities.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000609

Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, nais ko rin pong magtanong isang bagay na ibahagi ko rin kanina sa harap ng issue.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000610

Tungkol po ito sa issue ng mga kababayan natin na magpasa hanggang ngayon,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000611

siyempre taon, matapos ang Marawi siege, ay nasa temporary shelter pa rin.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000612

Nagkaroon po ba ang pag-aaral ang CHR? Nagkaroon po ba kayo ng pagbisita?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000613

Nagkaroon na po ba ng mga pinakahuling pag-uulat na tungkol sa sitwasyon ng ating mga internally displaced persons?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000614

At paano po natin napapaabot sa iba't ibang mga agencies ang kanilang mga pangangailangan para sa makataong kondisyon?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000615

At matiyak yung kanilang karapatan na mabuhay ng may pantay na karapatan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000616

May dignidad.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000617

Madam Speaker, with regards po sa ating Marawi siege, I am with you, Kong Sara.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000618

So, CHR granted financial assistance to 2,372 claimants, amounting to 7.1 million pesos.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000619

We have also issued a human rights advisory with continuous monitoring of compliance with laws and standards described in the advisory.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000620

Meron din po tayong issuance of press statement

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000621

and social media cards.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000622

And sa totoo lang po, ngayon pong November, sabi po ng komisyon, sila po ay pupunta uli sa Marawi City.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000623

Madam Speaker, sa pagpunta ng komisyon sa darating na Nobyembre dito sa Marawi, ano po ang particular na layunin ng pagbisita na ito?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000624

Lalong-lalo na, meron hong bagong executive order tungkol sa pagtatatag ng Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000625

And development na is po natin, kumbaga hindi lang po ito ginawa para lang masabi na meron tayong ganitong office.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000626

Pero matiyak na ang office na ito na naitatag ay tutugon talaga sa agad na mga pangangailangan ng ating mga kababayan na ID,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000627

na hanggang ngayon ay nakakaranas pa rin ng nakakulangan sa adequate housing sa kanilang lugar.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000628

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000632

Ang pagpunta po doon ng komisyon ay magkakaroon po tayo ng diagolo para po sa ating mga residente ng Marawi City.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000633

At syempre po, sa D-SUD po, nagpadala na rin po tayo ng letter para po i-raise yung operationalized MCB provided

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000634

at nagbigay po tayo ng recommendation and technical assistance para sa kanilang sekretariat.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000635

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000636

Sa kasalukuyan din po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000637

At nagpaabot po noon ng panawagan din ang mga residente sa Marawi sa pangunguna ng Marawi Advocacy Accompaniment

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000638

na magkaroon ng dialogo at konsultasyon na ispo sana namin natawagan din ang Center for Social Justice and Humanitarian Protection

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000639

para doon sa mga issues, concerns, at needs po nila ay maisama naman doon sa magiging plano

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000640

ng Marawi Diablitation and Development.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000641

Kumbaga, matiyak po natin na sa lahat ng mga magiging plano, kasama mismo yung tao.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000642

Madam Speaker, sa November 17 po, pupunta po ang komisyon sa Marawi at magkakaroon po tayo ng Multi-Stakeholder Forum on Housing,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000643

Land Property Rights, at kasama din po rito ang Marawi Board.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000644

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000645

At harap din sa kapulungan na ito ang...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000646

Marawi Victims Compensation Board.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000647

At marami din pong mga katanungan ng ating mga kababayan kung paano ba gagamitin at ginagamit ang pondo ng bayan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000648

dahil ngayong 2027, sa susunod na taon, zero ang pondo nila para sa susunod na taon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000649

Ngayon, malinaw na marami pa rin mga nangangailangan, kaya dapat po natin itulak kasabay ng pagtataas ng pondo ng CHR,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000650

yung pondo rin para sa...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000651

mga bodies na tumutugon sa pangailangan ng mga affected pa rin na stakeholders sa Marawi.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000652

Ngayon naman bilang panghuli, Madam Speaker, nais ko lang pong mapaalalahanan ang ating CHR tungkol sa ating request.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000653

Kung meron na kayong assessment sa role ng CHR sa pagtitiyak ng right to adequate housing at right against unjust demolition,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000654

kung meron na po kayong ulat tungkol dyan, dahil kayo po ay kasama sa dapat sa mga panahon na magkakaroon ng mga demolisyon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000655

at maobserba na naoobserba natin yung mga protocols, yung mga policies na nagtataguyod sa karapatang pantao, number one po yan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000656

At number two, kung sa tingin po ba ninyo ay kailangan pa natin ang mas pangil at mas malakas po,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000657

yung mga kapangyarihan para matiyak talaga na mauuna ang karapatang pantao sa pagtataguyod ng karapatan sa sapat at disente na panirahan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000658

Madam Speaker, may commission and bank na po tayo, may commission and bank resolution na po tayong naibigay dito,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000659

at ang commission po ay kasama pa rin po sa pre-demolition board.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000660

At yan po ang hihintayin ng ating representasyon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000661

Magiging resulta ng pagpupulong na yan at kung may kopya na kayo ng resolution.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000662

At ang hiningi nga po natin yung evaluation ng gaps eh, kung meron.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000663

Kasi meron din sa ating kongreso, Madam Speaker, matagal nang sinusulong ng CHR yung pagpapalakas sa ating National Human Rights Institution.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000664

Ilang kongreso na rin niyang sinusulong dito sa House of Representatives.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000665

Pero ang nangyayari, lagi nakakalimutan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000666

May nakapasa dito pero nabibinbinbin sa Senado o kaya po talagang hindi nakakaabot ang pagpasa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000667

Kaya ang hamon sa ating 28th Congress, hindi lang matiyak ang sapat na pondo sa CHR, kundi mapasa na rin ang mga mahalagang batas na ito,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000668

ang strengthening ng CHR bilang National Human Rights Institution, kasama na rin po ng protection ng rights ng human rights defenders.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000669

Meron po tayong HRD bill.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000670

Meron din po tayo ngayong nakakaabot.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000671

Ang bang na panukalang batas para sa National Preventive Mechanism para matiyak na compliance sa optional protocol sa Convention Against Torture ang ating mga batas, ang ating mga palisya.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000672

Kaya naman, Madam Chair, dito na po ako magtatapos.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000673

Hindi pa rin po nagbibigay ang CHR ng ulat tungkol dun sa hinihain ng mga kababaihan mula sa Marikina.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000674

Tungkol po sa ulat sa kanilang lugar ng presence po na nagbubunga o naghahatid po ng threat, harassment, at intimidation sa kanilang mga lugar.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000675

Kaya po, yan na lang po ang maitutulak natin sa CHR na dagliang maipaabot sa representasyon na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000676

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000677

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-000678

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-000679

Dadah Kiram Ismula of the Akbayan Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000680

Representative Dadah Kiram Ismula of Akbayan Party-list is now recognized for her interpellation.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000681

Magandang gabi po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000682

Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000683

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, meron lamang akong ilang katanungan related to the disposition of cases handled by the Commission.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000684

Distinguished Sponsor, under the 2027 NEP ng CHR, can you describe what the Human Rights Protection Program is about?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000685

And can the good sponsor also please describe how this program and its services can help an ordinary citizen, for example, a Moro or indigenous person? Thank you.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000686

Madam Speaker, the Human Rights Protection Service is the operational arm responsible for investigating complaints,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000687

manages cases, and delivering direct intervention for victims of human rights violations.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000688

So, yung key functions and services po are independent investigations, quick response operations, legal aid and counseling, forensic and medical legal services, financial assistance, and witness protection.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000689

Paano po kaya ito makakatulong sa isang ordinaryong mamamayan or ordinary citizen, for example, a moro or indigenous person?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000690

Madam Speaker, yung ating mga clients, actually po, pwede po silang pumunta walk-in, physical in-person, o pwede rin po nilang bisitahin ang ating mga regional offices.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000691

Meron po tayong 17 regional offices sa buong Pilipinas.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000692

Pwede rin po silang mag-message sa FB.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000693

Meron din po tayong online portal, yung tinatawag po natin mismo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000694

Meron din po tayong hotlines, emails.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000695

Pwede rin po silang magbigay ng letters.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000696

At saka motu proprio, our own investigation and initiative.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000697

So, Madam Sponsor, if an ordinary citizen wants to avail the services of this Human Rights Protection Program, ano ang process for them to avail?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000698

Bukod doon sa nabanggit ninyong mag-walk-in, magsusulat, paano po kaya yung proseso nila?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000701

Sabihin natin, nag-walk-in po ako.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000702

Pagdating ko doon, paano po kaya yung magiging proseso?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000703

Wala po yung, ang komisyon po ay, wala po silang formal process na tinatawag.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000704

Formal complaint.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000705

Formal complaint. Lahat po ay, pag pumunta po doon, yung po ay agad-agad nating tutugunan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000706

Hindi po kailangan magkaroon ng formal complaint na dadalhin sa komisyon ang ating mga clients.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000707

At tama po ba, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000708

wala itong timeline?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000709

Wala po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000710

Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000711

Given this, sa 2025 GAA, ang target ninyo sa pag-resolve ng human rights violation cases ay 90%.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000712

Pero ang actual accomplishment ay 13.90% lang.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000713

For cases finally disposed, kumbaga naisara na, within the prescribed period, ang target ay 95%, pero ang actual ay 53.30%.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000714

Maari po bang ipaliwanag kung bakit hindi na-meet ang targets na ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000715

Yes, Madam Speaker. Yes, we do confirm na 90% po ng ating targets sa pag-resolve ng cases with access to remedies,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000716

lumalabas po na tila mababa ang accomplishment at 13.9%.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000717

Ngunit ito po ay dahil.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000718

Isinama namin sa bilang ang mga backlog cases mula pa po noong 1987 hanggang 2024.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000719

Kapag tinignan po lamang ang new o yung pong 2025 na mga bagong kaso, ang ating pong accomplishment ay 86.67%.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000720

Kaya nais po naming ipaliwanag na tila mababa po yung 53.30% dahil karamihan sa mga kasong naitala sa panahon ay natanggap po sa huling quarter

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000721

o mga buwan ng 2025. Kaya ito po

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000722

ay tumatakbo pa for investigation sa ating pong mga regional offices at siyempre po hindi naman po ito madali.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000723

Kaya nahihirapan din po tayo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000724

Pero para ipaliwanag po ito sa mga region, kami po ay maraming investigation.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000725

Marami po tayong kaso for investigation na mas madaming walk-in clients.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000726

Kaya po yung kakulangan po ng personnel natin, isang factor pa rin po ito.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000727

At nagkakaroon po tayo ng...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000728

At nagkakaroon po tayo ng NIR na isa pa lamang newly created office.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000729

Maraming salamat Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000730

So matotal po ang lumalabas na kaya siya medyo mababa tignan ay dahil may mga nasa huling quarter na ito na pumasok ang cases

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000731

at kaya hindi pa naibibilang ang accomplishment niya.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000732

Tama po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000733

At bilang isa din sa mga rason ay ang syempre ang kaso ay taon...

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000734

Taon ang bilang bago mo ito ma-re-resolve.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000735

Depende pa sa anong klaseng kaso ito, diba?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000736

But anyway, finally, Distinguished Sponsor, ano po ang kongkretong hakbang na nakikita ng CHR para masigurong ma-improve ang performance

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000737

at maabot ang mga itinakdang targets sa susunod na taon?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000738

Madam Speaker, to my colleague, napakaganda po ng tanong ninyo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000739

To address the gaps po in the resolution and disposition of cases,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000740

the investigation function of the CHR should first be strengthened before the resolution, disposition of cases be made.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000741

Thus, the following line items is the budget should be increased.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000742

Unang-una po yung travel expenses po natin, supplies, representation, postage and training expenses.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000743

Kasi alam nyo po, Madam Speaker, nahahamper po yung services po ng komisyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000744

Yung pagpunta na lamang po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000745

Sa mga regional offices, nagkakaroon po kami, medyo tight po ang budget na naibigay po natin sa komisyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000746

Kaya po naman, hindi lamang po sa personnel, pati po sa services, talagang nagkakaroon po tayo ng gaps and lapses.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000747

Pero gayon pa man po, hanggang sa makakaya nga po ng komisyon, ay gagawin po natin ang mandato po sa atin ng konstitusyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000748

Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000749

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, dadako naman po ako sa mga katanungan na nais ipahatid

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000750

ng ating colleague, our Senior Deputy Minority Leader, Representative Leila de Lima.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000751

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, the Philippines ranking in the World Justice Project Rule of Law Index showed a slight improvement overall.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000752

Moving from 99th out of 142 countries in 2024 to 97th out of 143 countries in 2025.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000753

However, the country remained.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000754

118th in fundamental rights while its civil justice ranking deteriorated from 98th to 106th despite an improvement in criminal justice from 124th to 119th.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000755

Sa kabila ng slight improvement overall, nananatiling mababa ang performance natin sa fundamental rights. Ano po ang nakikitang pangunahing gaps ng CHR at ano ang mga hakbang nitong ginagawa para matugunan ang mga ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000756

Madam Speaker, on national protection mechanism, this aim for a comprehensive and institutionalized national mechanism that integrates

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000757

prevention, protection, and response. It also enhances coordination across stakeholders, utilizes data-driven system for decision-making, and also ensures inclusivity through GAD principle.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000758

Ang PKP framework po aims to address the gaps. For example, yung delayed response to incidents, weak interagency coordination, at yung ating limited integration of data system.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000759

Meron din po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000760

Mayroon din po tayong uneven access to service across regions by establishing a unified human rights.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000761

Para ba tugunan ang pagbaba ng civil justice? Anong mga interventions ang kailangan ng CHR at may sapat po bang pondo or funds sa kasulukuyang budget para maisagawa ang mga ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000762

Actually po, lagi po naman tayong hindi sapat ang pondo, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000763

Pero siyempre po, we have the continuing

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000764

advocacy for passage of HRD laws and also lahat po ng bill for CADB.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000765

Ang budget po kasi natin for 2027 para sa protection ay 95 million ay hindi po sapat para mapalawak at gumawa ng bagong mga programa at tustusan ang gastos ng 17 regional offices na nangangailangan po ng mga sasakyan,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000766

gas at kung ano-ano pa para po sa ating mga imbestigasyon.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000767

At para po sa huling katanungan, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, sa criminal justice naman, umangat tayo from 124 to 119.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000768

Pero mababa pa rin ang standing natin.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000769

Ano po ang specific programs ng CHR na nangangailangan ng additional resources upang mapalakas ang access to justice?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000770

At human rights protection?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000771

Unang-una po, Madam Speaker, kailangan po natin madagdagan ang budget ng ating komisyon para ma-establish po at mapalakas ang national protection mechanism para po sa ating human rights defenders.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000772

Katulad po ng ating bantay karapatang pantao, kalinga karapatang pantao, at tugon karapatang pantao, nagkakahalaga po itong an additional 13 million pesos.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000773

Sa huli, ito'y lumalabas na nasa budget pa rin ang problema.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000774

In closing, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, I would like to manifest that the budget of the Commission on Human Rights should be sufficient to allow the CHR to fully carry out its constitutional mandate, which is to protect and uphold the rights of our people.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000775

We trust that the guidance of the good sponsor, this chamber, will give due consideration to strengthening the CHR's budget.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-000777

Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000778

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-000779

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list to interpellate the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000780

Representative Rene Luis Co of Kabataan Party-list.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000783

Now recognized to interpellate.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000784

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening to the good sponsor and to the Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000785

I'd just like to have some questions in relation to our discussion in the previous budget briefing held with the Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000786

In the committee-level deliberations, the CHR mentioned that there is still or there is now

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000787

no specific line item in the budget for its programs against red tagging, which is up for design.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000788

And so, if there will be a design for it, it will get its funds from the Human Rights Protection Program.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000789

Is this correct, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000790

Yes, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000791

Would it be beneficial, therefore, if the budget were to itemize and directly fund the CHR's anti-red tagging program?

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000792

Similar to the National Preventive Mechanism in the near future?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000793

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000794

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000795

We note that the NPM item label has conduct of regular visitations in places of detention and rehabilitation facilities

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000796

and preventive monitoring of human rights conditions herein.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000797

In our previous discussion and in the recommendations,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000798

as provided in the Commission on Human Rights investigation on the National Inquiry on Red Tagging,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000799

it says that there could be quick response mechanisms when such instances or cases are reported to the Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000800

In the near future, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, can the CHR consider or can we expect from the CHR that there will be a line item

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000801

to correspond?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000802

To funding the creation, design, and support of programs to address issues of red tagging that will be designed by the CHR?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000803

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000804

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000805

Madam Speaker, yes, po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000806

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000807

We're heartened to hear this response from the Commission on Human Rights,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000808

and we hope that in the near future,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000809

or we'd be able to design programs and to have a line item specifically to ensure that our recommendation

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000810

that red tagging must be prevented, must be responded upon with preventive mechanisms would happen and would be supported.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000811

My next question would be because in the past year since the last budget season, multiple activist groups and progressive individuals

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000812

have filed complaints before the Commission on Human Rights to investigate human rights violations.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000813

There were cases filed by a member of BPO Employees Network in Cebu.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000814

There is a complaint filed.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000815

There is a complaint filed by a student leader from SLSU.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000816

There are complaints filed because of the arbitrary mass arrests during the 2026 State of the Nation Address.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000817

There's also one filed by a Gabriela Women's Party chapter in Marikina.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000818

And there is also another one filed by civil rights organizations in Ilocos.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000819

There's one filed in Southern

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000820

Tagalog Region. There's one

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000821

filed by a student leader in UST.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000822

Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000823

may we ask

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000824

for the statuses of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000825

the following cases?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000826

Can this just be submitted to

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000827

the good representation in a report?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000828

Yes, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000829

we will submit our

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000830

report and updates

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000831

to you,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000832

Cong. Renee.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000833

Madam Speaker, good

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000834

sponsor because this is in relation to

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000835

the earlier question

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000836

that

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000837

these groups and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000838

these individuals have

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000839

suffered

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000840

instances, cases of red tagging

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000841

but not only that, human rights

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000842

violations, surveillance,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000843

harassment,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000844

police violence,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000845

that at the end of the day

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000846

the proposals for

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000847

the line items

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000848

may be

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000849

best be used

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000850

for the continuing operations

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000851

of the Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000852

So Madam Speaker, we'll

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000853

submit these cases

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000854

and we'd like to request

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000855

a written update on

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000856

their status

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000857

as of date, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000858

Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000859

my next question would be

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000860

in relation to

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000861

the HRVVMC

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000862

and the Martial Law Museum.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000863

As we know, it's September

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000864

16, we are a few

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000865

days shy

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000866

to the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000867

commemoration of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000868

the declaration of Martial Law

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000869

which happens every

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000870

September 21 of the year.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000871

So that will be

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000872

its 54th year since

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000873

the declaration by

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000874

Ferdinand Marcos

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000875

Sr. May we ask for a status

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000876

update on the following memorial

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000877

efforts? For example,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000878

we have the Freedom Memorial

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000879

Museum Gallery.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000880

Can we ask for a general

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000881

status update of the Freedom Memorial

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000882

Museum Gallery? Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000883

good sponsor.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000884

Madam Speaker, as to

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000885

current status of the Freedom Memorial

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000886

Museum Project,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000887

original

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000888

site unavailable.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000889

On March

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000890

2026,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000891

March 26,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000892

2026,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000893

the UP Office of the

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000894

Vice President for Development

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000895

informed HRVVMC

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000896

that the originally agreed

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000897

[unclear] site within UP Diliman

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000898

could no longer be made available

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000899

and proposed an alternative

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000900

site. September 2,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000901

2026, the Commission

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000902

wrote a follow-up

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000903

to the

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000904

UP Office of the Vice President

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000905

for Development for the Submission

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000906

of Relevant Technical Document.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000907

And as of today,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000908

the UP Office of the Vice President

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000909

for Development has yet to submit

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000910

the technical documents

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000911

requested by

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000912

HRVVMC to evaluate

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000913

the alternative site it

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000914

proposed. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000915

good sponsor, to clarify, this is for

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000916

the permanent Martial Law Museum,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000917

correct?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000917-split-2

Yes, po.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000918

And the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000919

status update being shared now

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000920

is that there is

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000921

finality from UP that

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000922

it would no longer

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000923

be available

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000924

with regards to the original

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000925

site conceptualized

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000926

for it.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000926-split-2

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000927

We're looking at

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000928

or we're hoping for alternatives

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000929

which has yet to arrive.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000930

Is that correct?

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000930-split-2

Yes, po. Yes, Madam

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000931

Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000931-split-2

So there are no alternative sites

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000932

as of date, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000933

As of date, po, wala pa po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000934

Okay.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000935

So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may I

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000936

clarify what will happen

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000937

to its budget?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000938

Will it just be

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000939

sitting there for a bit until

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000940

we find an alternative site?

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000941

Is there a threat that it will have to

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000942

be returned to the Treasury

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000943

because there's no alternative

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000944

yet? Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000945

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000946

since nasa trust fund po siya,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000947

secured po siya, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000948

Okay. Madam

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000949

Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000950

is there

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000951

still

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000952

a target date by which,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000953

it can be put up, given

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000954

that there's this

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000955

development?

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000956

Target

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000957

date of completion? Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000958

we're still dependent on the,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000959

on UP.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000960

Okay. So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000961

this representation is still hoping

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000962

that even though

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000963

given this unfortunate

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000964

development, dapat po matayo

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000965

itong Memorial Museum

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000966

na ito. Marami pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000967

um,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000968

mga mamamayang Pilipino

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000969

ang pinaslang noong batas

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000970

militar. Dahil din po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000971

dito, nagkaroon tayo

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000972

ng greater human rights

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000973

safeguards in the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000974

Constitution, which the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000975

Commission on Human Rights is

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000976

duty-bound to

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000977

ensure

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000978

and protect. And bahagi

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000979

po ng efforts na yun,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000980

aside from yung legal

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000981

duty, ay yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000982

responsibility to pass on,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000983

yung lessons

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000984

painted in blood, noong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000985

na ayaw nating maulit muli.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000986

Sana po ay makakuha tayo

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000987

ng update as soon as possible.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000988

May this representation

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000989

be furnished and update

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000990

once available, if

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000991

it is received by the Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000992

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000993

HRVVMC commits to

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000994

work closely with UP

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000995

for the immediate resolution on the matter

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000996

of the site of the museum

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000997

within the framework of the HRVVMC

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000998

UP 2018

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-000999

[unclear] agreement.

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001000

So, continuous po ito, Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001001

hindi po titigil

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001002

ang Commission at ang

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001003

HRVVMC na magkaroon po tayo

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001004

ng museum

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001005

para po sa ating victims

Source

Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001006

ng martial law.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001007

And to clarify, Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001008

good sponsor, this is different from the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001009

Freedom Memorial Museum Gallery,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001010

which is not the permanent

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001011

installation yet, but it is

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001012

essentially the temporary

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001013

site for

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001014

the artifacts

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001015

and the educational

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001016

materials

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001017

in relation to martial law. Is this correct?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001018

Yes po. It is temporary, Madam

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001019

Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001020

May I ask how many visitors

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001021

this

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001022

gallery aim to service

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001023

monthly and annually?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001024

And may assessment na po ba on the success

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001025

of these events at paano po ito

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001026

pwedeng ma-improve?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001027

Madam Speaker, since

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001028

launching the Freedom Memorial Museum

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001029

Gallery and establishing

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001030

its regular services, the Commission

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001031

has monitored performance through

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001032

client feedback and satisfaction

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001033

surveys. In 2024,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001034

museum services achieved

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001035

a 99.5

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001036

satisfaction ratings.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001037

This high standard continued

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001038

in 2025 with client

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001039

feedback reflecting consistent service

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001040

quality and continuous

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001041

improvement resulting in a

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001042

100% satisfaction

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001043

rating, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001044

Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001045

meron po ba tayong datos

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001046

tungkol sa ilan pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001047

mga bisita, yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001048

nakakita na

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001049

at nakapunta na sa gallery?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001050

How about kung may average

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001051

monthly visitors

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001052

po to if that data

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001053

is available? Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001054

yes, meron po. We will

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001055

provide na lamang po with the data.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001056

Pero ngayon po ay

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001057

more than 300 clients

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001058

na po ang ating na-reach

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001059

for 2026.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001060

And

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001061

how were, kamusta po yung most recent

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001062

gallery visits and tours guided

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001063

by martial law victims?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001064

May, aside po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001065

from the positive assessment, meron po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001066

bang substantive feedback?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001067

We're still collating po, Madam

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001068

Speaker, with regards to

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001069

po sa feedback po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001070

Okay. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001071

good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001072

at the proper time, this representation

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001073

will move to amend

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001074

to restore the cuts made

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001075

and to ensure a sufficient budget

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001076

for human rights protection

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001077

and education, including

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001078

safeguards against red-tagging, torture

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001079

and other abuses perpetrated

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001080

by state forces, and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001081

support for the completion and operation

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001082

of the permanent martial law museum.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001083

Nonetheless, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001084

this representation continues

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001085

to advocate,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001086

for the budget of the Commission

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001087

on Human Rights, as we have

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001088

manifested during its budget

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001089

briefing, and of course,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001090

marami pong mga programa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001091

yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001092

kinakailangan na may

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001093

pondo na hindi naman po kalakhan

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001094

na maaari pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001095

i-grant sa Commission on Human

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001096

Rights, para po hindi lang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001097

sa mga direly necessary

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001098

projects na ma-implement nila,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001099

pero kahit yung mode of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001100

operations na inaasahan natin,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001101

sa Commission on Human Rights,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001102

such as, for example, not only the visiting

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001103

of detention centers, pero kung paano

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001104

nila na-ensure that

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001105

mga bahay pag-asa at iba pa,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001106

they're up to par with the standards

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001107

provided by law.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001108

Gusto natin magawa ng

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001109

Commission on Human Rights yung kanilang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001110

mandato at supportado po,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001111

hindi lang ang national office,

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001112

pero kahit yung mga regional offices

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001113

nila sa mga operations na ito.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001114

So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001115

this representation,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001116

continues to support

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001117

the budget of the CHR

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001118

and we hope for

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001119

the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001120

addition at the proper

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001121

time which the representation and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001122

many of our colleagues here

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001123

will also move and support

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001124

the support as well.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001125

So that's all, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001126

Maraming salamat po ulit sa Commission

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001127

on Human Rights and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001128

the good sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001129

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu

asr-001130

Motion to suspend, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001131

Session is suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001133

Session is resumed.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001134

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001135

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001136

Representative Presley De Jesus

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001137

of the PHILRECA Party-list

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001138

to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001139

Representative De Jesus

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001140

is hereby recognized to interpellate.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001141

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001142

Since all the questions

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001143

already been asked, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001144

So, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001145

there being no more

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001146

members for the minority,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001147

who wishes to interpellate,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001148

I move to terminate

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001149

the period of sponsorship

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001150

and debate for the budget

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001151

of the Commission

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001152

on Human Rights. I so move,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001153

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001154

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001155

on the part of the majority,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001156

we join the minority

Source

Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001157

in the motion to terminate

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001158

the period of interpellation

Source

Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001159

on the proposed budget

Source

Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001160

of the

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001161

Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001162

Including all its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001163

The Chair would like to clarify

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001164

with Representative De Jesus

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001165

if your motion includes

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001166

the Commission

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001167

on Human Rights Violations

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001168

Victims Memorial Commission.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001169

Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001170

Again, let me reiterate

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001171

my motion to termination.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001172

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001173

there being no more members

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001174

of the minority,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001175

who wishes to interpellate,

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001176

I move to terminate

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001177

the period of sponsorship

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001178

and debate for the budget

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001179

of the Commission on Human Rights

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001180

and attached agencies.

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001181

I so move, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001182

Including the . . .

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001183

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001184

including Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001185

I so move, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001186

What does the House say?

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001188

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001189

on the part of the majority,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001190

we join the minority in the motion

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001191

to terminate the period of interpellation

Source

Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001192

of the proposed budget

Source

Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001193

of the Commission on Human Rights

Source

Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001194

including the

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001195

Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001196

There is a joint motion to terminate

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001197

the interpellations on the proposed budget

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001198

of the Commission on Human Rights

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001199

including Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001200

Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001201

The Chair hears none.

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001202

The interpellations

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001203

on the proposed budget of said

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001204

agency is hereby terminated.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001205

Madam Speaker, and to our distinguished

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez

asr-001206

colleagues, maraming, maraming salamat po.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001207

Noted.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.

asr-001208

Motion to suspend.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001209

Session is suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001222

Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001223

Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001224

And for the purpose, Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the said department, namely Secretary Henry Rhoel Aguda; Chief of Staff Maria Teresa Magno Garcia; Undersecretary Heherson Asiddao.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001225

Undersecretary Sarah Maria Sison; Undersecretary Leandro Angelo Aguirre; Undersecretary David Almirol Jr.; Undersecretary Leonido Pulido III; Undersecretary Rodil Aniban.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001226

Undersecretary Christian Mark Guingcangco; Assistant Secretary Melvyn Carlo Barroa; Assistant Secretary Ryan Martin [unclear]; Assistant Secretary Maria Victoria Castro; Assistant Secretary Celine Melanie Dee; Assistant Secretary Pinky Jimenez; and Assistant Secretary Emmy Lou Versoza-Delfin.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001227

Likewise representing the Cybercrime Investigation and Coordinating Center, Executive Director Renato Paraiso; the National Privacy Commission, Privacy Commissioner and Chairman Johann Carlos Barcena; and the National Telecommunications Commission, Commissioner Ella Blanca Lopez.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001227-split-2

We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of DICT and its attached agencies. Welcome to the House of Representatives.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001228

And with regard to the motion of the Majority Leader, is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001229

I move, Madam Speaker, that we recognize Vice Chair Brian Poe, the vice chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001230

Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Representative Vice Chair Brian Poe, [unclear]. Of course, the vice chairman of the Committee on Appropriations is hereby recognized to begin the sponsorship of the budget of DICT and its attached agencies. Vice Chair may now proceed with his sponsorship speech.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001231

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I happily address my colleagues here in plenary. I rise to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies. For fiscal year 2027, DICT and its attached agencies are proposing a total expenditure program of 19.49 billion pesos, an increase of 1.27 billion, or 7%, from fiscal year 2026.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001232

A significant portion of this budget goes to ICT infrastructure. The ICT Systems and Information Infrastructure Program receives 3.85 billion, as well as 1.13 billion for the National Broadband Plan, up by 69.3%, and 949.5 million for the National Government Data Center, up 27%.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001233

These investments are already producing results. The National Fiber Backbone has laid 3,026 kilometers of fiber; 59 of 136 backbone nodes have been activated. And the Philippine Digital Infrastructure Project has an estimated cost of 16.1 billion, with 2.16 billion programmed for fiscal year 2027.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001234

For connectivity, DICT reported 29,091 active free Wi-Fi points across 11,839—sorry, I stand corrected—11,836 locations as of July 2026. The Free Public Internet Access Program has 5 billion pesos in automatic appropriations for fiscal year 2027.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001235

Our digital government infrastructure is also operating at a significant scale. The eGov PH application has surpassed 61 million downloads

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001245

and 56 million verified accounts, while eGov DX has

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001255

processed more than 1.2 billion transactions and integrated over 1,300 government e-services.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001264

Cybersecurity, the National Security Operations Center, has expanded its coverage from 10 government agencies in 2022 to 99 agencies as of August 2026, monitoring approximately 6.7 billion security alerts.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001265

But as we support these investments, we must also look closely at implementation. DICT's fiscal year 2025 obligation rate was 61.7%, leaving approximately 9.16 billion in unused appropriations.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001266

For the ICT Systems and Information Infrastructure Program, obligation was 43.5%. Disbursement was 22.6%.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001267

These figures remind us that the measure of budget is not only what we appropriate, but what is actually delivered.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001268

And while we recognize the progress made, we also recognize that there are many shortcomings still, not only in cybersecurity, but also in combating fake news and other areas of digital safety and governance.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001269

These are challenges that will require continued work and scrutiny.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001273

And while many may look at it as an opportunity to reduce funding for the agency, I see this as a challenge to increase funding where it is critically necessary.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001274

These programs are of the utmost importance for the development of our country in this new age of innovation, AI, cybersecurity, and other threats.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001275

So, Madam Speaker, with that, we are ready to take the questions of our distinguished colleagues, and I thank you.

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001276

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001277

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal of BH Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001278

Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001279

Good evening, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001280

Good evening to my distinguished colleague.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001281

Good evening.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001282

And good evening to the DICT.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001283

On the mandate of DICT, distinguished colleague, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Chair, I want to start with DICT's mandate.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001284

DICT is supposed to lead our national ICT agenda.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001285

And under Republic Act 12254,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001286

we have an even bigger responsibility for whole of government digitalization and interoperability.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001287

Madam Chair, distinguished colleague, Mr. Secretary, are you actually fulfilling that mandate?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001288

And how?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001289

Because DICT should be more than Wi-Fi and connectivity.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001290

You should also make sure that government uses technology efficiently.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001291

For example, are we oversubscribed in cloud services?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001292

Do you know how much cloud capacity government is paying?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001293

Paying for versus actual average and peak?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001294

What about internet services? Are we paying for more bandwidth than government actually uses?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001295

During our previous hearing, you told us Republic Act 12254 could save government at least 30% by eliminating repetitive common systems and subscriptions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001296

Have you already identified these duplications? How much can government actually save? And when will we see those savings?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001297

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Those are very valid questions from my colleague. Let's go through it one by one very quickly.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001298

So yes, Madam Speaker, DICT is implementing its mandate beyond the connectivity and moving towards a whole of government.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001299

And that is currently being implemented through the DICT and its attached agencies.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001300

For fiscal year 2027 alone, the department targets integration of 40 agencies with the Citizen Frontline Delivery Services Platform,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001301

30 agencies, each of which with HCMIS and IFMIS, and 30 agencies with OFMIS.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001302

And that includes the Online Public Service Portal and Procurement Systems.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001303

Regarding the concern on cloud and bandwidth and other common ICT requirements,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001304

the objective of e-Government Act is precisely to give government greater visibility over what common requirements exist

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001305

and to avoid paying repeatedly for the same capabilities.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001306

So the management mechanism that we have here, and its ability to validate across

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001307

450 national agencies for compliance, is established within the eGov portfolio.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001308

But we should not complain or I mean we should not claim, sorry, rather, that DICT is oversubscribed in terms of its cloud or bandwidth

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001309

because the submissions presently available to DICT do not yet establish government-wide average and peak utilization

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001310

across or against total contracted capacity.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001311

So with that, we can...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001312

We can commit to Congress to establish that a baseline through the inventory, portfolio management,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001313

and interoperability mechanisms are being implemented under RA 12254.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001314

The 30% figure that my colleague brought up, Madam Speaker, is a very valid number to bring up

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001315

because we did make that commitment.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001316

And the figure, therefore, should be treated at this stage as a potential cost avoidance estimate

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001317

from eliminating duplicative...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001318

...common systems and subscriptions, not yet as realized savings.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001319

So really, this is the target that we hope to hit.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001320

And yes, as of the last committee hearing that we had, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001321

I do remember that the DICT is actively identifying where those duplications exist

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001322

and we're progressively moving towards a consolidated system, common ICT investments,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001323

as agencies transition.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001324

So I believe that we're really targeting that by the end of this administration,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001325

we have a more centralized EGov system.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001326

I hope that answers my colleague's questions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001327

Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001328

Do we already have a number on the target in terms of the 30% savings that we will generate?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001329

Do we already have a figure?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001330

Madam Speaker, may I clarify?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001331

A number on how much?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001332

How much has been saved already?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001333

Yes.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001334

Let me get back to you on that.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001335

Madam Speaker, the DICT's claim is that they don't have a set number yet,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001336

although they are studying it.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001337

Is there a target number in terms of savings?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001338

For this year or for fiscal year 2027?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001339

For this year.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001340

For this year.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001341

And fiscal year 2027.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001342

But that's for this.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001343

But for this year, we'll allow it.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001344

Okay.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001345

Because this is a new law, a newly passed law,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001346

the actual estimated savings are for fiscal year 2027,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001347

and we're looking at, if I'm not mistaken, 15 billion pesos in estimated savings

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001348

by removing

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001349

By removing these duplications.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001350

Are we also looking at using AI to monitor all these systems?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001351

So that...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001352

Madam Speaker, DICT can confirm that we are using AI.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001353

Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001354

I'll go to my next question.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001355

Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, during the previous hearing,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001356

Distinguished Sponsor, I also raised that the DICT has a 9% obligation rate.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001357

We are told now that this has improved to around 27%.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001358

Is this correct?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001359

Yes, Madam Speaker, I can confirm we've increased to 27%.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001360

So, okay naman po na hindi na 9%.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001361

27% na, pero I hope we shouldn't be happy with this, no?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001362

This is still very low.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001363

May I ask, why, what is stopping us from improving on the 27%?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001364

Ano ba ang problema natin?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001365

Madam Speaker, I completely agree with my colleague.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001366

27% is not something to celebrate,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001367

especially when there are so many other agencies that need funding.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001368

But it is an improvement.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001369

And I'll list down the things that are making it difficult.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001370

One is procurement delays.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001371

Two is the technical complexity of what DICT's management,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001372

mandate, puts them in charge of.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001373

Three is the timing of the release of funds.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001374

Many of the releases were quite late this year for DICT.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001375

And so, many of the funds are just now being released.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001376

We also have a limited specialized manpower.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001377

Unlike many other agencies, DICT requires a lot of specialized manpower, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001378

And with that, we actually do need to increase the manpower of the agency

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001379

in order to...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001380

...increase its absorptive capacity and the services it provides.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001381

Lastly, PDIP had two unsuccessful biddings and had to restructure its major procurement package.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001382

And all of that combined leads to 27%.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001383

What obligation rate, Mr. Sponsor, are we looking at for December 31?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001384

Madam Speaker, the agency is optimistically pointing out that we're looking at 90% completion by December.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001385

So, are we saying that considering what you've mentioned, Madam Chair and Mr. Sponsor,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001386

maaayos na po natin yung procurement issues,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001387

all the funnels,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001388

kung saan po tayo nagkaka-roadblock?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001389

In terms of technical manpower,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001390

we will have all the technical manpower prior to that?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001391

Just to clarify the target,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001392

as of today, we're at 35% already.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001393

As of today.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001394

And we are expecting how much? 90?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001395

90%.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001396

And if you think about it,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001397

when we had the initial data to today,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001398

we already moved up 9%.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001399

More or less.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001400

If we continue at this rate,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001401

we could possibly hit our target of 90%.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001402

One of the things that the agency had to deal with

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001403

was really just waiting for the download of funding.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001404

And so, there was time to already streamline some of the processes

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001405

for the release of these funds and the activation on the ground.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001406

So, what you're saying, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001407

is that maayos na po tayo in terms of the procurement process

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001408

and all the technical manpower.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001409

But our main problem right now is the DBM.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001410

And how long, and kailan natin natatanggap yung pera?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001411

Is this correct?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001412

The reason why is not necessarily DBM.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001413

It turns out it's because the awarding of major projects

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001414

to the DICT

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001415

will take place within this quarter.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001416

So, once those have been awarded already,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001417

that would be immediately dispersed.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001418

But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the DBM.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001419

When were these projects supposed to be procured?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001420

When did they start?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001421

But when did it start?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001422

At the start of the year

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001426

So, PDIP, which constitutes 4 billion pesos, Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001427

is a big chunk of it.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001428

And the reason why it was delayed

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001429

was because earlier this year, dear colleague,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001430

they actually had a failed bidding.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001431

So, now it's proceeding, but it's proceeding in October.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001432

So, that's why the 4 billion will be released quite later.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001433

But this was a project procurement for 2026 or 2025?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001434

It's a continuing from 2025 to 2026.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001435

Okay.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001436

Let me go to my next question.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001437

Having said that,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001438

DICT's

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001439

absorptive capacity remains a problem,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001440

I also want to be fair to the agency.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001441

Hindi lahat ng hindi nababayaran ay necessarily Absorptive Capacity problem.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001442

DICT's September 15 submission says

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001443

that as of August 31,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001444

you had approximately 1.29 billion in accounts payable.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001445

Of that, approximately 1.049 billion pertains to

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001446

valid and duly supported obligations from 2024 and 2025

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001447

that are already due and demandable.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001448

You also say additional NCA from DBM is needed to settle these obligations.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001449

So, for this 1.049 billion,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001450

is the problem now lack of cash authority from DBM

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001451

rather than lack of appropriation?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001452

How much additional NCA do you need today to settle all valid, due, and demandable obligations?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001454

Yes, I can confirm that there is a payable of 1.049 billion and this, actually, we do need an additional allocation.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001455

In order to pay for.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001456

And these are considered as milestone payments, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001457

So, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001458

if these are already valid, duly supported, and due and demandable obligations,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001459

and DICT submits the complete requirements,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001460

ang assumption po natin dito is complete na yung requirements nito.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001461

Everything is complete.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001462

So, Madam Speaker, I can confirm that all the requirements needed to request for additional funding for NCA from DBM

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001463

is complete and it's actually subject for approval already.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001464

So, what is the reason?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001465

What are they saying is the reason why hindi pa ito nababayaran?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001466

Bakit po?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001467

What is the reason for the delay?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001468

Why is there no NCA?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001479

Could you pause my time, please?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001480

Okay.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001481

The documents were submitted first semester of this year—sorry, third quarter of this year, dear colleague.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001482

So that probably explains why until now the release has not yet been approved.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001483

So that's what I do not understand.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001484

Bakit po inabot tayo ng third quarter of this year to complete the requirements for something that is due and demandable since 2024?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001485

Can you make me understand?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001489

Why? Why wasn't it submitted? We already knew that this was going to be a project.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001492

So it turns out that

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001494

The reason why there was a delay in the submission of the necessary documents was they needed to compile the requirements from the suppliers, etc.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001495

And they were only able to do so later this year.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001496

So, the delay is a mix of agency as well as suppliers.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001497

What I cannot understand is that the DICT should be the number one digital agency in our country.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001498

Kayo po ang lead sa lahat.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001499

So, dapat po, kung meron man madi-delay, hindi po dapat kayo.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001500

Dear colleague, I completely understand where you're coming from.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001501

If there's any agency that should move quickly on a digitalized procurement and documentation process, it should be the DICT.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001502

So, I believe I can get a commitment from the agency that they will improve their procurement processes.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001503

Saka po, you know, distinguished sponsor, you know how easy it is now to review everything. We have AI.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001504

But I hope...

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001505

I know that the DICT is going to work towards better digitalization in terms of its bureaucracy.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001506

Pero sana din pati yung suppliers ng DICT, dito tayo abot sa compatibility ng data.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001507

So, sana yung mga suppliers din ng DICT are up to standard in terms of their digitization para wala ng bottleneck.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001508

Yes, I agree.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001509

But of course, my understanding is that if you look at the way the DICT is paying,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001510

walang supplier na magsusurvive sa ganitong sitwasyon.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001511

So, the suppliers are effectively front-loading everything.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001512

Madam Speaker, I understand that this disincentivizes some of our suppliers and potential investors

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001513

if this is how our lead digital agency deals with its documentation and disbursement processes.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001514

But rest assured,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001515

Madam Speaker, within this year, this outstanding balance should be settled by the DICT.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001516

Madam Speaker, if I may also note that 90% of cash downloaded by the DBM has already been utilized.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001517

So, it's really just a question of whether or not the funding is downloaded.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001518

Once it is, it's immediately utilized by the agency.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001519

So, it's really a factor.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001520

So, it's really a funding issue.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001521

Yeah, I would say that a big chunk of it would be.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001522

And I hope that this can be streamlined on the agency side.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001523

So, let us now go to earmarked funds.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001524

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001525

separate from the regular budget of DICT,

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001526

ano naman ang absorptive capacity?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001527

ng DICT when it comes to earmarked funds?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001528

Lagi kasi namin kayong pinaglalaban because digitalization needs money.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001529

And I know that.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001530

And if we should be spending on anything, it should be, we should prioritize the digital infrastructure.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001531

Pero kung may malaking problema, yung earmarked balance naman at hindi ninyo nagagastos, ano ba ang problema?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001532

In terms of the earmarked funds, Madam Speaker, we're talking about the free Wi-Fi.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001533

And that's at 61% in terms of utilization.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001534

So, that speaks to the absorptive capacity of the agency to be able to utilize the earmarked funds.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001535

But yes, 61%.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001536

And that is what I cannot reconcile, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001537

Twelve digital systems hosted on the E-Gov PH were temporarily disabled

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001538

because DICT could not pay for cloud server space.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001539

Twelve government systems went down.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001540

So, meron kayong pera.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001541

Paano po nangyari ito?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001542

Ano ba nangyari talaga?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001543

Can you explain?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001544

How much was unpaid?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001545

To whom?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001546

How long were the systems down?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001547

Down.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001548

And was this all...

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001549

It's also an NCA problem.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001550

Yung time,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001551

It went down because, Madam Speaker, dear colleague, we had a surge of 700% in terms of its use.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001552

So, the systems weren't...

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001553

We weren't able to handle that much.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001554

And therefore, the systems went down for a short period of time.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001555

Madam Speaker, it was only down for five hours on day one and six hours on day two.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001556

But this is definitely because no one was able to predict a 700% surge in the use.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001557

Paano po ba nangyari yung surge?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001558

I mean, during that day or the day before that or the month before, ilan na ba yung gumagamit?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001559

So, was it only on that day na talagang nagkaroon ng surge?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001560

And the capacity could not absorb it?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001561

Madam Speaker, it...

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001562

It turns...

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001563

Mr. Speaker, it turns out that the cloud services ended up running out of credits because of the overuse.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001564

And that's how we ended up with that surge.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001565

Running out of credit.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001566

So, that means, hindi po natin...

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001567

We didn't have enough cash or money allotted for the capacity.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001568

We didn't, Madam Speaker...

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001569

We didn't have enough budget enough for the surge that basically no one within the agency predicted that there would be a 700% surge in the use.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001570

And therefore, the cloud services that were contracted weren't enough.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001571

And therefore, we needed to procure more in order to adapt to the capacity required.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001572

So, that's where I'm puzzled, Distinguished Sponsor.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001575

Nag-down ang 12 government systems dahil kulang tayo sa pambayad sa cloud.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001576

But you have earmarked revenues.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001577

Meron po kayong pera na dapat kayo mismo ay may access doon at madali niyong magamit.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001578

And this is for free Wi-Fi and for our cloud services.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001579

Yes.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001580

Madam Speaker, regarding that concern, that's correct that there are earmarked funds.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001581

I don't...

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001582

All of it?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001582-split-2

Right.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001583

So, it's not included in the earmarked funds as part of the automatic use.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001584

So, for data, we're unable to use those earmarked funds in order to fund cloud data.

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001585

Are we expecting this to happen again?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001586

Or do we have enough funds already and credits, so-called credits, to cover any surge in the future?

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001587

And do...

Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001588

Do we have access to the earmarked funds para hindi na ito mangyari ulit?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001589

So based on the eGov law, Madam Speaker, we do have enough funds to maintain.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001590

But that doesn't necessarily mean that we are at optimal.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001591

If I'm not mistaken, the budget that we're being given for these cloud services...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001592

I mean, for our data services is about 949 million.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001593

For the indulgence of...

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001595

For the honorable Nazal, if he could kindly wind up.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001596

Right.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001597

So, 949 million for eGov.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001598

But the reality is, we actually need additional funds for redundancies.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001599

We need additional funds for emergency systems, which we don't have currently.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001600

So, if you're wondering why there's a risk of it going down,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001601

it's partly because we're underfunding this specific program.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001602

But the law does provide for the bare minimum required.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001603

to operate and maintain eGov.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001604

So, what is the funding actually needed for us to be able to support?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001605

The request is 1.8 billion, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001606

So, bakit pa po natin kunin ito sa USF?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001607

Um...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001608

Because...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001609

...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001610

Well, that's a very valid point that the USF could possibly be used,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001611

or earmarked funds could possibly be used for cloud services.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001612

However, unfortunately, that is not within the purview of the agency to decide that.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001613

I believe that is a call of the DBM, if I'm not mistaken, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001614

Okay.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001615

Maybe due to lack of time, I just have to bring this up.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001616

During our previous hearing also, we already discussed that much of the government data is hosted abroad.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001617

And that DICT needs local availability zones or data centers.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001618

Hindi ko na po ulitin yun.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001619

Ang follow-up ko lang, kailan matatapos ang migration?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001620

What percentage of critical government data and workloads will be locally hosted by end of November 26?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001621

By end of November 2027?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001622

And when will migration be substantially completed?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001623

By the end of this year, we're looking at 20% of critical government data would be localized.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001624

We currently have one server that is up in Subic.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001625

One data center that's up in Subic.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001626

And we're hoping that we'll be able to localize our government data all by 2028.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001627

That's the goal, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001628

And how much is needed to localize everything by 2028?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001629

Based on the feasibility studies, DICT is projecting 8 billion in costs, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001630

Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor, I go back to where I started.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001631

DICT's mandate is much bigger than Wi-Fi.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001636

connectivity, computers and subscriptions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001637

DICT is supposed to lead the digital transformation of government.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001638

That means efficient ICT spending, reliable e-gov systems, interoperable databases,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001639

trusted digital identity, transparent government processes,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001640

and public spending that citizens can digitally trace.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001641

Lagi naman natin pinaglalaban na mabigyan kayo ng sapat na resources ang DICT,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-001642

Because digitalization is essential. But if you need more money, tell Congress exactly what you need and what it will deliver. And if the money is already available, particularly from earmarked resources, then we need to understand why it is not being converted into reliable government services. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001643

Madam Speaker, I want to thank our colleague for his constructive questions. They're very valid and they really point to the needs of the agency.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001644

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001645

To further interpellate on the proposed budget, Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the representative of Kabataan Party-list,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-001646

Representative Renee Louise Co.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-001647

Honorable Renee Louise Co of Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001648

Thank you, Madam Chair. And good evening to our distinguished sponsor and to DICT.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001649

So may this distinguished sponsor yield to a couple of questions regarding the budget of DICT?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001650

Madam Speaker, it would be my privilege.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001651

It would be my privilege to answer the questions of my dear colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001652

Thank you, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001653

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, my first line of questioning would be in relation to the free public internet access program,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001654

which this representation thanks the DICT for the report that it has provided,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001655

giving more detail as to which locations, which schools, which SUCs have already,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001656

established connections for free public internet access, and which ones are yet to be established.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001657

So we've noted that for basic and secondary public educational institutions,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001658

there are more unconnected public schools in Region 5, more than in other regions.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001659

May we ask, perhaps, why this is so?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001660

Is there a greater difficulty in accessing regions or locations in Region 5, for example?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001661

So it's actually not necessarily a technical difficulty.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001662

It's more of a prioritization from DepEd on which areas would receive, I guess, the services first and get connected.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001663

So is it to say that there's no one explanation as to why there's this number of unconnected public schools?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001665

So, we just noted that in Region 5, there's 70 locations that are being targeted to put up an internet connection or a free internet connection for, which is more than the other regions.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001666

For example, the next region which has more number of locations na kailangan ng connection would be already NIR at 38.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001667

So, yung 70 ng Region 5, it just stands out. So, meron po bang particular reason? If any, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001668

Okay. So, out of the 45,000 target schools of DepEd, 11,000 were connected by DICT.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001669

However, the remaining were supposedly already connected by...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001670

So, parang may connection na po. Ganon. So, hindi priority.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001671

There should be a connection. Although, what I know, dear colleague, is that there are some areas wherein they were connected and now there are problems with connection.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001672

And there are other areas from based on testimonies I've heard in which they don't have connection or are requesting for connection still.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001673

So, while the numbers reported to us is that on paper, we know that we have high connectivity.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001674

And that there are several areas that have been connected and we're...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001675

What's the DepEd number? We're at 90%?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001676

We're at 99.39% in terms of connectivity.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001677

However, and this is where I need the help of my colleagues as well as the other members who are present.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001678

If you could give me a list of all the schools that don't have access, aren't connected, or were connected and lost their connection,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001690

And I would gladly work with my colleague to call the attention of DICT to make sure that these areas are reconnected or are connected as per the mandate of DICT.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001691

Thank you for that opening, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001692

Good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001693

At the proper time, this representation would also like to submit any of the information and requests that it has gathered regarding that.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001694

But in relation to that point, at ito rin po yung nakalagay sa report na,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001695

na ilahad ng DICT that the NEP for fiscal year 2027 provides for the maintenance and operation of more than 16,000 free Wi-Fi locations established in 2026.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001696

But to ensure the continued availability of free Wi-Fi in public schools, an additional 3 billion is necessary for the maintenance and operation of existing school sites.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001697

At iba pa yung tier 2 budget request na 10 billion plus for the expansion of free Wi-Fi to other priorities.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001698

public service locations. So to clarify

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001699

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, itong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001700

3 billion, additional 3 billion

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001701

for the continued

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001702

availability, hindi pa po ito granted?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001703

Yes.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001704

Hindi pa.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001705

Hindi pa granted because the only thing that I'm sure

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001706

will be granted

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001707

is the continuing appropriation

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001708

from the spectrum user fee, which

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001709

is the earmark fund for free WiFi.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001710

But the additional funds,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001711

the request, the 3 billion,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001712

will have to come from us

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001713

allocating it in the

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001714

GAA. But to be

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001715

clear, the reason why we have that increase

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001716

is because as we increase our connections,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001717

of course the maintenance of these

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001718

connections will require an additional

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001719

fund, which was not available from

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001720

the earmark previous. So

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001721

hopefully we're able to get that. But the

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001722

expansion is necessary. So

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001723

on the DepEd level, ang commitment is

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001724

that na mga elementary schools

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001725

would be connected. Pero

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001726

hindi pa kasama yung mga

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001727

universities,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001728

SUCs.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001729

So that's yung expansion na kailangan natin.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001730

So yung mga iba na may complaint na wala

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001731

pa silang connection sa kanilang

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001732

eskwelahan, lalo na pag university, state,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001733

universities or colleges,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001734

yun yung dahilan. Kasi kailangan pa natin

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001735

ng budget para ma-expand ng

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001736

programa. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001737

good sponsor, dahil landmark essentially

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001738

yung pag-establish

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001739

ng connectivity

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001740

in these schools,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001741

but dahil hindi

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001742

granted as of now

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001743

itong 3 billion for the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001744

maintenance and operation of existing

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001745

school sites, kung hindi po mag-grant

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001746

itong 3 billion na ito, ano pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001747

mangyayari sa connectivity ng

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001748

schools na na-establish

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001749

na noong 2026?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001750

Tama po ba yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001751

intindi natin, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001752

na hindi po ito matutuloy

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001753

or ano pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001754

mangyayari?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001757

Okay, so to clarify,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001758

the 3 billion, while ideal

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001759

that we're able to grant it through

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001760

legislation for the GAA,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001761

should there not be an allocation

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001762

from the GAA, it now

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001763

falls upon the DBM,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001764

to release additional funding from

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001765

the SUF,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001766

and earmark that for the

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001767

continuation of the free Wi-Fi program.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001768

However, if we are able to

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001769

provide the 3 billion, then

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001770

technically, we don't have to dig

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001771

into the SUF anymore.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001772

Remember, that's our contingency fund for

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001773

free Wi-Fi, and our goal

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001774

here is not just to maintain

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001775

the existing sites, but to expand

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001776

free connectivity para sa mga

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001777

kababayan natin.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001778

For this representation,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001779

and the public's

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001780

purpose, ano po ang SUF?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001781

Oh, I apologize.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001782

The SUF is the spectrum user fee.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001783

This is the minimal fee

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001784

that is automatically collected from

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001785

telcos, and

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001786

contributes to our free Wi-Fi.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001787

And how much po ba

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001788

ang nasa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001789

SUF ngayon na pwedeng

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001790

makuha itong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001791

3 billion, at hindi magkukulang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001792

para po sa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001793

purposes of continuous

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001794

connectivity ng schools?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001795

As of June

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001796

2026,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001797

we have

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001798

22 billion,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001799

303 million,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001800

304,367 pesos,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001801

and 28 centavos.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001802

At kung hindi po nakuha yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001803

Tier 2 budget request for the expansion

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001804

of free Wi-Fi to other priority public

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001805

service locations,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001806

ano pong implication ito for

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001807

2027?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001808

There will be

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001809

lesser expansion than expected?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001810

Pwede rin po bang kumuha

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001811

sa SUF para po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001812

makamit yung mga targets for expansion

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001813

na

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001814

10 plus 10 billion,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001815

55, ay 500 million plus

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001816

ang kailangan?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001817

What I'm being told

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001818

by the DICT is that

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001819

it can actually be used

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001820

for the expansion.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001821

But two things to consider.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001822

One is that

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001823

siyempre ang DBM may final say

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001824

kung lalabas itong pondo

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001825

for the expansion.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001826

And second consideration is, remember,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001827

sabihin natin na nag-expand tayo

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001828

and our yearly cost goes up to

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001829

10 billion, right?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001830

That means that the SUF that we

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001831

currently have is only good to maintain

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001832

for two years. So we have to

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001833

be careful on how much we use

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001834

from the SUF to expand

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001835

and how much we use to maintain.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001836

Ang importante, yung mga

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001837

sites na meron na tayo, siyempre,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001838

hindi dapat tanggalin yun or

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001839

madisconnect ang services. So little

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001840

by little, but we want to

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001841

make sure that the main SUF fund

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001842

doesn't completely run out. That's why

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001843

we also need additional funds from

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001844

Congress for the expansion. But the maintenance,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001845

that's definitely a commitment

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001846

under the SUF.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001847

So what I'm hearing, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001848

ay hindi na rin sapat yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001849

yearly appropriations

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001850

na kinery over lang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001851

from 20%

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001852

from 2025

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001853

onwards and onwards, para

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001854

i-maintain na

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001855

yung mga existing

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001856

connections that are

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001857

not only established before, pero yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001858

dinadagdag natin. So just

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001859

for the record, magkano na po ba

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001860

yung kailangan to maintain

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001861

yung connectivity

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001862

that's currently

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001863

existing?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001864

Madam Speaker, it's true.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001865

Sobrang kulang po yung investment natin

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001866

sa free Wi-Fi para sa mga constituents.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001867

In fact, the investment cost is actually 22.5 pesos per connected beneficiary. Madam Speaker, 22.5 pesos per month. That's a minimal investment for the potential that connectivity unlocks, lalo na para sa mga kabataan.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001868

So, for me, I honestly believe that you're correct. There is a lack of funding. This should be prioritized, but again, we also have to consider absorptive capacity of the agency, the maintenance and operations before we can go into expansion.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001869

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, at the appropriate time, this representation will move for the amendment of the GAB to support the necessary funding para po magtuloy-tuloy yung connectivity,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001870

lalo na nakalagay po ito sa mga paaralan. Ang beneficiary po, kabataan, yung beneficiary, the education sector, that, you know, kailangan ang connectivity nito among others para continuous yung quality education na ibibigay sa kabataan at syempre na ibabahagi din ng faculty, administrators, etc.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001871

Madam Speaker, I'd like to move on to my next line of questioning. This is in relation, actually, to...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001872

So, Project Uplift. We asked this with TESDA, which informed us na ito po ay in partnership with the DICT. This is the implementation of AI-related programs, especially upskilling, that is being rolled out to BPO companies through courses na ibinabahagi sa kanilang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001873

mga employees. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, binigyan po tayo, at least ng DOLE, may some coordination ito with the DICT, ng mga listahan ng mga enterprises and yung kanilang mga training programs that they're availing of. May I ask, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, itong mga courses na po ba ito, may duration po ba ito?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001874

Ang concern na finlag natin po sa TESDA ay may reports that it could be just like one PowerPoint, papasadahan ni employee, at the end of it, upskilled na siya.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001875

So, I'd like more qualitative details. What does this course look like, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor. Is this a month-long course? May test ba ito at the end?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001876

Paano po natin na may measure na upskilled yung employee sa dulo po nito?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001877

Madam Speaker, that's a very valid question from my colleague. Siyempre, hindi pwede natin sabihin na upskilled po ang mga government workers natin, ang mga workers in general natin, kung PowerPoint lang po ang pinapakita sa kanila, lalo na kung tech-related po ito.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001878

So, if you'll allow me a few seconds just to confer kung ano talaga yung programa.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001879

I'll get back to you in a moment.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001880

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001881

So, Madam Speaker, to clarify, all these courses have been uploaded in the Digital Workforce Hub.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001882

Which was just released September 9.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001883

So, the courses are available there.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001884

And it's not just a course that you can enroll on.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001885

I believe there are also follow-up activities for capacity building.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001886

So, really, DICT is committed in not just creating another certificate mill, but really building the capacity of our employees.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001887

However, this is brand new.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001888

We just started September 9.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001889

So, we have yet to see whether or not

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001890

this will be a successful program.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001891

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may this representation be furnished.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001892

A copy of the document that maybe the DICT is using as a framework to implement the upskilling.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001893

I understand that at least in the public releases of IBPAP, it is rolling it out in partnership with these agencies.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001894

It is hoping that...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001895

That the upskilling happens to its employees.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001896

We're still questioning, ano yung translation of upskilling na ba ito?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001897

Ito ba ay promotion?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001898

Ito ba ay additional salary?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001899

Ganyan, more appropriate questions for Dole, perhaps.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001900

Pero at least sa DICT, gusto po natin makita yung mga detalye ng paano po niroroll out niya yung mga kurso na ito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001901

Would that be...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001902

Can that happen, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001903

Good sponsor.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001904

Madam Speaker, to be fair, the mandate of DICT would be on the capacity building side,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001905

but not necessarily the immediate employment.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001906

However, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be a priority for DICT to make sure that they're highly employable after their programs.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001907

With that being said, I have the commitment of the Secretary that we can provide to you, to this representation,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001908

the framework that was used to create this program, and also, if my colleague has any constituents,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001909

that would like to participate in any of the capacity building activities,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001910

the DICT has given their commitment to immediately enroll and add them into the program

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001911

so that you can get first-hand experience on these programs.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001912

and also give your critique on whether or not this is really effective in providing ang mga kabataan natin ng mas maraming oportunidad.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001913

Thank you, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001914

I am of the understanding that there are slots that are allotted to various enterprises.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001915

So, we might have to consult also with these regions, etc.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001916

But nonetheless, we appreciate the details of the qualitative framework by which this upskilling happens.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001917

Lalo na po yung pangamba ng karamihan ng ating mga employees in different sectors, lalo na sa BPO, kung saan mas inaasahan yung upskilling na itong mangyari,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001918

rather than AI integration helping these employees to further their careers,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001919

ay nagiging rason pa nga po na sila ay maaari.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001920

Ma-retrench, ma-let go.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001921

Sila po ay nawawalan ng trabaho because of the further integration of AI in these companies' workflows.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001922

But nonetheless, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, we will be waiting for the submission of the Good Department.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001923

My last question would be in relation to the EGOV PH app.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001924

I remember in the presentation of the DICT that there are 54 million users registered as of date.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001925

During the presentation, may we ask, yung breakdown nito, ilan po ba dito sa 54 million users ang unique Filipino users?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001926

I assume dahil po may ilan po dito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001927

Mga foreigners, nirequire na i-download yung EGOV app para po sa kanilang mga travel details.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001928

May ilan dito foreigners? So ilan po sa 54 million users nito ang Pilipino?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001929

So from the DICT is claiming that only 3 to 4 percent of these active users are foreigners.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001930

Okay. So most of them are Filipino users po?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001931

Okay. And we are sure naman po na unique users sila.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001932

I assume dahil may IDs din pong pinapasubmit para magka-EGOV account.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001933

Yes, Madam Speaker, we can guarantee that these are unique accounts.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001934

Okay.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001935

Mr. Speaker...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001936

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may data ba kung anong mga services yung mga ginagamit ng mga Filipino users natin?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001937

Alin po yung mas frequently ginagamit versus sa hindi pa nagagamit?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001938

If we could just have a quick second to confer kung ano yung mga top services na ginagamit.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001939

But one thing I want to point out is unlike...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001940

Social media, these are unique accounts.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001941

Yes.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001942

So that we can verify due to their government IDs.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001943

I ask these questions, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001944

And I will allow the distinguished sponsor the few moments to confer with DICT.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001945

Para po maitimbang din natin yung dami ng pera na binibigay natin sa EGOV app development and maintenance.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001946

Sa paano ba...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001947

Pag ginagamit, gaano ba kadalas na nagagamit ng mga mamamayan natin yung app?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001948

Paano ba siya na ma-maximize, if any, or hindi?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001949

Yun po yung gusto nating ma-test with this data point, perhaps.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001950

So I have the breakdown, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001951

First is national ID, followed by PhilHealth, followed by Pag-ibig, followed by e-travel,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001952

which is then followed by clearance.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001953

Permits, social services, and last would be the health desk.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001954

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may this representation receive a report on the breakdown of services use?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001955

And maybe kung this data is available, how much of the percentage of Filipino users that are registered,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001956

ang gumagamit ng mga servisyong ito?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001957

We will request for that.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001958

The agency is committing that they will submit the percentages.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001959

And last question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001960

Saan po nakastore ang data na kinakalap ng e-gov app?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001961

Singapore and the United States.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001962

So it's at data centers of Singapore and United States.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001963

So we're availing of cloud services para po makuha sila?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001964

Yes, Madam Speaker, I can confirm that we are using cloud services.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001965

In order to host this data.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001966

How much data po ang nakalap na para po sa e-gov PH?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001967

Like terabytes na po ba ito, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001968

Madam Speaker, six terabytes of data.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001969

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we're initially concerned that that's a lot of data.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001970

Okay.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001971

That's all personal data of Filipinos that's not hosted in the Philippines.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001972

So mayhaps the department may consider some way to locally host this data.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001973

Lalo na maaari kung magkaroon ng data breach.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001974

May mga assurances na binigay ang DICT publicly.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001975

But nonetheless, hindi siya foolproof guarantee that it won't happen.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001976

Lalo na po.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001977

At hindi po siya stored locally.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001978

So siguro na lang po.

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001979

A final response on that point, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-001980

And I have no further questions.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001981

So I stand corrected.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001982

It's 60 terabytes, not just 6 terabytes, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001983

And my colleague is correct.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001984

We actually, based on the eGov law, are supposed to move towards localization of data

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001986

By 2028, I believe, is the commitment.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001987

And we need another 8 billion pesos to be able to get there.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001988

And that's the conservative estimate from the DICT.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001989

We've already allocated it, if I'm not mistaken, 9 billion so far.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001990

We've allocated 9 billion over the course of 8 years

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001991

in order to address the data storage issue.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001992

But again,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001993

moving towards 2028, we need another 8 billion to reach our target.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001994

So I actually have the breakdown of the appropriation for data center

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001995

from 2016 until our 2027 NEP.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001996

The total amount between MOE and capital outlay is 9,572,567 pesos.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001997

And then, of course, we need another 8 billion to reach our target.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002000

But in the NEP, we're only being given 949 million for fiscal year 2027.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002001

I have it here.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002002

I can submit this to the representation to my colleague for her perusal.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002003

That would be appreciated, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002004

I thank the indulgence of my good colleague in answering my questions.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002005

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002006

Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002007

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002008

Next to interpellate on the proposed budget, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002009

is the Act Teachers Party List representative.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002010

And I therefore move that we recognize Representative Antonio Tinio.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002011

The Honorable Antonio Tinio of ACT Teachers Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002012

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, ah, yung mga questions natin regarding the DICT budget have to do with the

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002014

the project.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002015

So, practically all the projects of the ICT, and these include the National ICT Household Survey,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002016

the National Government Data Center Infrastructure, National Broadband Program,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002017

the National Government Portal, the Government Transparency and Accountability Program,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002018

they're all funded at the central office level.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002019

So, lahat sila.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002020

Unlike many other agencies na merong nasa central office, centrally managed, tas merong nasa regions.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002021

So, lahat po konsentrado sa national.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002022

In fact, parang yun na yung ano eh, yun na yung mga major programs.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002023

Those are all.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002024

Those are all the programs, in fact, if I'm not mistaken, of the DICT.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002025

So, una, is there an explanation for that?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002026

In other words, highly centralized.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002027

Madam Speaker, for the longest time, for the past decade, the budget of the DICT has been centralized in the Secretary's office.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002028

But that doesn't necessarily mean...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002029

That the DICT agrees that this is how it should remain.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002030

In fact, there are steps being taken between the DICT and DBM to push towards decentralization of the fund that's being given to DICT

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002031

so that we don't have 90% of the budget being allocated to the Secretary's office year after year.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002032

As our ICT concerns evolve, and to make sure that the distribution of ICT services is more equitable,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002033

the argument for decentralization becomes more and more...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002034

the argument for decentralization becomes more and more clear.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002035

Alright. So, but ano ba yung reason?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002036

Is it historical? Is it because relatively bagong department ng DICT?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002037

Ano pong dahilan?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002038

So, yes, it's historical, but it's also because of the capacity of the regional offices.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002039

Sa totoo lang po, medyo bata pa ang ahensya.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002040

So, yung mga regional offices po natin need to get up to speed in terms of technical capability and manpower

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002044

able to address decentralization

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002045

from the Secretary's office.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002046

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002047

So now let's

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002048

let me focus on actually during

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002049

the budget briefings

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002050

budget briefing of the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002051

DICT, I

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002052

honed in on the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002053

National Government Data

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002054

Center Infrastructure

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002055

Program. So

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002056

the proposed

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002057

appropriation for 2027

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002058

is 949

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002059

.49 million pesos

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002060

of which

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002061

806 million

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002062

is MOE and

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002063

143.4 million

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002064

is

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002065

capital outlay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002066

Okay. And

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002067

lump sum. Actually yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002068

pangisang observation natin dito

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002069

na

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002070

concentrated sa central office

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002071

yung mga

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002072

programs

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002073

ng DICT, yung appropriation

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002074

for the programs and

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002075

the other point being

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002076

lump sum sila lahat.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002077

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002078

So dahil hindi natin

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002079

iisa-isahin yung mga programa, dito na lang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002080

po tayo mag-focus tayo sa National

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002081

Government Data Center Infrastructure.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002082

Wala po kasing provided breakdown.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002083

I actually asked for

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002084

a breakdown of this.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002085

I was given

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002086

some data.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002087

But it's a

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002088

ito po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002089

I was given

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002090

some data. It's a list of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002091

national government data

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002092

center projects

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002093

from fiscal year 2016

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002094

to

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002095

really

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002096

it's 2025

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002097

with one or two projects from

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002098

2026.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002099

Exactly two projects

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002100

from 2026.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002101

So I

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002102

will get to this.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002103

But that does not answer

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002104

my

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002105

question regarding

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002106

ano po ang breakdown

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002107

nitong NGDC

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002108

infrastructure

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002109

budget line.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002110

Para saan po ito?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002111

Ah, okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002112

Yeah, I have it here.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002113

Okay.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002113-split-2

So for

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002114

the breakdown,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002115

if I may, but I'm going to ask you.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002116

Madam Speaker, e-government data center,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002117

Subic operations is 700, sorry, 78.126 million pesos. E-government

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002118

colocation services.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002119

This would be the cloud services

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002120

here in the Philippines

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002121

amounts to 203.861

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002122

million pesos

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002123

e-government cloud hosting services.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002124

This is now

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002125

the hosting abroad

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002126

is 490.557 million pesos MOE

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002127

plus 143.495 million pesos capital outlay for a total of 634.052 million pesos, and the project management operations is at 33.458 million pesos in terms of the MOE.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002128

All right.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002129

Well, thank you for that.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002130

So generally,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002131

yung categories are

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002132

ano nga po yung una?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002133

So it's just the first one.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002134

The two big

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002135

chunks.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002136

One is co-location.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002137

One is co-location. That's about 200

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002138

plus million.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002138-split-2

The other is cloud services.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002139

It's cloud services and that's 400 plus.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002140

Pero yung una nyo, I forgot. Ano nga yung

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002141

unang binanggit mo?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002141-split-2

Here, I'll

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002142

go over it again real quick.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002143

So, ito po. Ang e-gov

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002144

data center, Subic.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002145

Ah, okay. It's just for the Subic

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002146

data center. Okay, right.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002147

Okay, so yun nga.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002148

Kasi looking at this

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002149

the data,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002150

okay, so

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002151

basically what you shared

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002152

follows the pattern from

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002153

the recent years.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002154

2023,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002155

2024, and so on. Okay,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002156

I hope, hindi ko alam kung ready na yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002157

ready na ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002158

Baka hindi pa eh.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002159

Yung slide.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002160

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002161

ayan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002162

Okay, so this is

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002163

a visualization of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002164

the list of projects

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002165

that I was provided.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002166

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002167

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002168

Noong

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002169

ng DICT. So, I was, ito nga,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002170

the title of the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002171

submission is list of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002172

NGDC projects

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002173

from fiscal year 2016

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002174

to fiscal year 2026.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002175

So, one decade

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002176

of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002177

appropriations or investment

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002178

in the national

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002179

government

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002180

data center project or program.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002181

Okay, and it lists

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002182

a total of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002183

total of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002184

73 projects.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002185

73 projects.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002186

I say 73 here,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002187

although curiously,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002188

if you see that the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002189

table here,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002190

item number, itemized eh,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002191

73. Pero yung item number

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002192

70 is skipped over.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002193

Baka naman,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002194

typographical error lang yun, o

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002195

baka naman may

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002196

dinilit kayo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002197

Hindi nyo po makikita dyan, dun sa submission nyo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002198

If you look at the submission,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002199

the sponsor,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002200

the one that was given me,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002201

the list,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002202

ito, wala kayo?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002203

I have a copy po.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002204

If I may request,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002205

could we request maybe one of the pages

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002206

para I can take a look at it?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002207

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002208

I am now in possession of the

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002209

document being referred to.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002210

These are the list of

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002211

NGDC projects

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002212

from fiscal year

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002213

2016 to fiscal year

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002214

2026.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002215

It has a total of 73 projects

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002216

but the

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002217

my colleague is correct

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002218

in which it goes

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002219

up to 73

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002220

items

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002221

but it does skip number 70.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002222

And

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002223

I'm not sure why.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002224

Okay, hold on.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002225

I'm not sure with DICT but

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002226

it also seems to go

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002227

clarification lang

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002228

backward because it's 2025

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002229

Yeah, and also the ordering has been

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002230

Right.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002231

But there's basically

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002232

there's one missing project.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002233

We're currently going through it.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002234

Okay, anyway, I just

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002235

noticed that off the bat.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002236

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002237

So anyway, if there's an explanation,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002238

then okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002239

Yes, well, anyway,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002240

what was submitted was 72,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002241

72 rather than 73 entries or projects

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002242

totaling from fiscal year 2016 to 2026

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002243

totaling 4.98 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002244

So yun yung total po yan pag sinuman nyo.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002245

Even though it's not total there.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002246

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002247

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002248

Um,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002249

Now, the general categories of spending.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002250

Actually, kaya ako po hiningi

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002251

dahil gusto ko rin sana magkaroon ng picture

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002252

at maintindihan

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002253

ano ba yung itsura nung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002254

ah

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002255

nung ating

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002256

data

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002257

ah

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002258

center

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002259

ah

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002260

capacity

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002261

Diba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002262

Ah

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002263

within our

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002264

ah

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002265

territory

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002266

as well as yung cloud.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002267

Ganon.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002268

Ganon.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002269

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002270

So,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002271

if you look at

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002272

if you

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002273

kasi ang pangalan ng proyekto,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002274

national government data center infrastructure eh.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002275

So presumably,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002276

this has been the one decade investment in building that

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002277

ah

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002278

data center infrastructure.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002279

Kumbaga, parang sovereign

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002280

ah

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002281

data center infrastructure.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002282

And what do we see?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002283

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002284

the four general categories,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002285

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002286

categories of spend,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002287

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002288

sa aming, sa ginawa nating pagsusuri

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002289

would be

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002290

yung cloud

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002291

and managed services procurement.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002292

Kaya yun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002293

Tapos,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002294

two,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002295

collocation

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002296

and space

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002297

or rack lease.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002298

Ganon.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002299

Then three,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002300

construction,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002301

no,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002302

and building of facilities.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002303

So, yun yung actual na nagtayo ng infra.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002304

And then,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002305

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002306

four,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002307

this is the smallest one,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002308

purchase of network,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002309

equipment,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002310

consultants and others.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002311

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002312

Meron pa nga isa dyan,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002313

ano eh,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002314

purchase of meals for a

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002315

conference.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002316

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002317

Nandyan po.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002318

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002319

But,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002320

ngayon,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002321

ang makikita rin natin dito,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002322

under the,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002323

ah,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002324

program of national government data center infrastructure.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002325

Actually,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002326

ah,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002327

kung i-

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002328

proportionally,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002329

pag titignan mo,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002330

75 percent

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002331

is,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002332

goes to rent.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002333

And then,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002334

mga 25 percent,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002335

yung actual build.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002336

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002337

So,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002338

most of the budget for that,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002339

ah,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002340

one decade of spending has gone to

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002341

renting

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002342

as against building.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002343

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002344

Ah,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002345

tapos,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002346

ah,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002347

kapansin-pansin din.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002348

Actually,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002349

na,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002350

though I have not totaled it,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002351

but,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002352

a significant portion,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002353

if not the biggest portion,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002354

of the 4 billion has gone to

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002355

cloud and managed services.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002356

So, yung kulay blue.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002357

Yung kulay blue dyan sa ating visualization.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002358

And especially,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002359

since,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002360

2023,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002361

kitang kita natin,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002362

no,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002363

yung paglaki nung,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002364

ah,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002365

pag-paglaan ng pondo

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002366

for cloud and managed services,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002367

734 million for fiscal year 2023,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002368

809 million for 2024,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002369

and 226 million for 2025.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002370

Itong 2026,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002371

well, sabi ko nga,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002372

yung listahan,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002373

kasi nakabatay sa listahan yan eh.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002374

So,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002375

ah,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002376

wala pa.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002377

And,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002378

in the breakdown that you gave,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002379

correct me if I'm wrong,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002380

ah,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002381

Mr. Speaker,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002382

Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002383

tama ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002384

Pinakamalaki pa rin yung cloud.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002385

Is that correct?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002386

That's correct,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002387

Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002388

Apo.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002389

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002390

So,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002391

okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002392

So, that's one observation.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002393

The other observation,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002394

meron po bang explanation doon

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002395

sa procurement of cloud services?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002396

Okay.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002397

Well,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002398

from,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002399

from my understanding,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002400

Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002401

ah,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002402

the,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002403

there's an urgent need kasi

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002404

to be able to store the data right away.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002405

Building the data centers takes time

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002406

and takes additional funding.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002407

Okay.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002408

If we're to immediately address the needs

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002409

of government agencies

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002410

and our constituents,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002411

we have to immediately first procure the cloud services.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002412

And then,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002413

whatever is left over,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002414

we can now invest this into

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002415

physical infrastructure here in the Philippines.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002416

So,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002425

a base structure here in the Philippines

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002426

which will take time to build and develop,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002427

maintain

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002428

and we have to hire staff for it pa.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002429

So,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002430

if we're working with the limited budget that we currently have,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002431

the initial funds always go to cloud services

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002432

and also

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002433

and co-location services.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002434

However,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002435

if you ask this representation

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002436

and the members of the DICT,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002437

all of us are in favor of additional funding

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002438

for physical infrastructure housed here in the Philippines

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002439

for data sovereignty purposes.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002440

purposes.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002441

So, yung actual

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002442

construction,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002443

yung actual na ginawa ng gobyerno,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002444

pag-aari ng gobyerno, presumably,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002445

they happened in

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002446

2017. So, yung green.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002447

2017, initially,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002448

130

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002449

million. Tapos,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002450

yung the next big one

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002451

was

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002452

2024.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002453

Ito yung data center sa Subic,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002454

699 million.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002455

Tama po ba?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002455-split-2

Yes, that's correct.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002456

That's correct.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002456-split-2

Could the sponsor describe

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002457

ano ba yung tinayo sa Subic?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002458

Ano meron tayo sa Subic, in short?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002459

Yes, we have

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002460

Subic, and that's why

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002461

we're giving 78 million

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002462

pesos for the MOE for that

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002463

Subic operation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002463-split-2

What does it do?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002464

What is it and what does it do?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002465

From my understanding, the Subic

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002466

data center

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002467

is used to store

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002468

the critical government data that we

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002469

spoke of earlier when

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002470

Congressman Nazal was questioning

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002471

how much of our critical

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002472

data is stored. It's 20%,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002473

if I'm not mistaken, of our

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002474

critical government data is stored in

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002475

20%.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002476

So, pwede natin sabihin yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002477

the main

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002478

data center of the national

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002479

government is the one in Subic.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002480

Is that correct?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002480-split-2

Yes, that's

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002481

correct.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002481-split-2

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002482

Now, malaking

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002483

bahagi ng spend

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002484

is yung collocation nga.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002485

Collocation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002486

So, for purposes of our

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002487

discussion, sabihin nung collocation,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002488

rent. Tama po ba?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002489

Yes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002489-split-2

So, it's renting

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002490

of space.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002491

Yes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002491-split-2

To house

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002492

the actual compute

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002493

for the data center.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002494

Tama?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002494-split-2

So, yes,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002495

that is correct. The rental of fracks and

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002496

servers.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002497

Yung, yung, mabagay,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002498

yung bahay, yung facility,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002499

yung building, the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002500

racks, and

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002501

yung kuryente, so on

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002502

and so forth. Yun po yun.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002502-split-2

Yes, this is

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002503

correct.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002503-split-2

But not the actual

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002504

compute and networking

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002505

equipment

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002506

and infrastructure itself.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002507

It's not necessarily new

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002508

infrastructure. It's more of

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002509

rental of services from Globe, BLDT,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002510

and Converge.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002511

But co-located, so it's here in the

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002512

Philippines.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002513

Oo. Pero para malinawan lang ako,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002514

ang ninupahan lang doon, yung space,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002515

it's not

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002516

the, you know,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002517

the servers,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002518

not the networking

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002519

equipment, and so on.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002520

Tama po ba?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002521

Yes. It's the space, so

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002522

the agencies bring their servers to

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002523

those rented spaces.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002523-split-2

Oh, okay. Alright.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002524

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002525

well,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002526

yun lang yung tanong ko dito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002527

There's a lot of money

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002528

in this budget is for co-location.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002529

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002530

ang tanong natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002531

how come there's no, I don't

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002532

find any spending

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002533

on the actual

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002534

equipment

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002535

for, you know, the computers,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002536

the servers, the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002537

networking gear, and so on and so

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002538

forth? Wala po.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002539

So, bakit umuupa lang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002540

ng space?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002541

Anong gamit nun?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002542

Please explain.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002542-split-2

That's a very fair

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002543

question. We just don't have enough

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002544

funding to build these data

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002545

centers as required.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002546

We have enough funding to

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002547

rent cloud

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002548

space, but that money is not

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002549

enough for us to build the necessary

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002550

equipment that we would need

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002551

to locally house

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002552

our servers. Kung baka,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002553

we're given this

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002554

small portion of what is actually

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002555

required for,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002556

uh, actual infrastructure

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002557

development. So, cloud services.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002558

No, I understand. Parang ang intindi ko,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002559

based on reading the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002560

titles of the contracts,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002561

uh, government is renting

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002562

the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002563

essentially parang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002564

floor space,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002565

di ba? But not the actual

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002566

compute.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002567

Floor space lang. So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002568

anong laman nun? Parang yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002569

bahay lang. The shell.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002570

But what about the actual,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002571

the actual compute?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002572

So, yes, you're correct.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002573

Some of them do have the computing

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002574

services included. However,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002575

for the ones that are literally

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002576

just space, even

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002577

that, the DICT doesn't have

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002578

enough funding for them to build

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002579

buildings, literal space,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002580

to house the physical servers

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002581

needed by the different government

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002582

agencies. 30, I believe.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002583

34 government agencies.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002584

There's just, we don't have

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002585

the buildings. DICT,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002586

your building, you just

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002587

finished your building.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002588

Even DICT is just renting its own

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002589

building, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002590

Okay. So, naintindihan ko,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002591

renting, kasi,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002592

lang. Pero, anong,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002593

anong ginagawa dun sa rented space na yun?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002594

Now, over

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002595

this period, 10 years,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002596

1.28 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002597

across 33 contracts

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002598

are for

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002599

collocation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002600

Sinabi mo nga, PLDT,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002601

et cetera, yun yung mga pinag-upahan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002602

Many of these contracts are

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002603

short-term contracts,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002604

three-month period, tapos

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002605

nire-renew every three months

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002606

for several

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002607

years. Anong

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002608

laman nun?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002609

Ngayong wala namang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002610

reflected na budget,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002611

for compute.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002612

The servers.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002613

Where are the servers?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002614

Presumably, umupa tayo ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002615

space sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002616

data center ng PLDT

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002617

para

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002618

ilagay natin yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002619

mga computer ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002620

gobyerno

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002621

to house

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002622

para

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002623

dito

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002624

ito yung mga hawaks

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002625

sa data ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002626

pamamayang Pilipino.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002627

Di ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002628

Pero,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002629

ang inupahan lang at binabayaran,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002630

binayaran ng a total of 1.2

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002631

billion is the space.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002632

Okay?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002633

So, what's in that space?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002642

they put their own.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002643

So, for example,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002644

customers put

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002645

their own servers.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002646

Okay.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002647

So,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002648

basically,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002649

for example,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002650

let's say,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002651

BIR,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002652

CIC,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002653

DICT,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002654

SEC,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002655

customs,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002656

they would rent the space.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002657

Some spaces have the servers

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002658

and computation

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002659

services available.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002660

Others are really

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002661

just the space.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002662

And then,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002663

these agencies put

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002664

their own servers

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002665

in that space.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002666

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002667

So, ganun pala yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002668

So, in other words,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002669

DIC acts as the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002670

procurer

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002671

for

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002672

ano ba tawag diyan?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002673

Colocation space

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002674

for other government agencies.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002675

Is that what you're saying?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002676

But, to be fair also,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002677

not all buildings

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002678

can qualify

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002679

as a space to put

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002680

a server.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002681

No?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002682

We need their

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002683

redundancy requirements,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002684

energy requirements,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002685

as well as

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002686

temperature requirements,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002687

et cetera.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002692

Not everyone would be able

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002693

to qualify for that,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002694

which is why

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002695

the DICT needs to provide

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002696

the co-location services

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002697

and find the proper

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002698

private sector entities

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002699

within the Philippines

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002700

to be able to house

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002701

critical government information.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002702

Well, yeah.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002703

Most of these contracts,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002704

33 contracts,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002705

18 have gone to

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002706

EPLDT Incorporated

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002707

from 2020 to 2022.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002708

And then, you have other...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002709

These are well-known players,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002710

presumably in the industry,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002711

like Vita,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002712

Nitro Incorporated,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002713

which is also connected

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002714

to PLDT,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002715

Inove,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002716

and so on and so forth.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002717

So, yun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002718

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002719

Naintindi lang natin

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002720

ano yung role ng...

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002721

Ano yung gamit ng budget

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002722

ng DICT?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002723

Nagre-rent kayo ng space.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002724

Pero, hindi necessarily

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002725

kasama doon yung compute.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002726

So, nagtataka ako

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002727

kung nasaan yung compute.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002728

O baka naman,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002729

empty lang to.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002730

Nag-rent kayo,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002731

may binabayarang kontrata,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002732

nire-renew every three months,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002733

pero hindi naman

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002734

pala nagagamit

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002735

as data center.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002736

Ganun ba?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002737

To be fair,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002738

these data centers

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002739

are really used.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002740

Even if

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002741

some of them

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002742

have the computation services,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002743

the others do not.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002744

And they're really just a space

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002745

wherein servers can be placed

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002746

and can be functional.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002747

But they are 100% used

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002748

by the different 34 agencies.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002749

Alright.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002750

So, anyway,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002751

nire-raise natin yung question na yun.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002752

My last set of questions.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002753

Kasi, binabantayan na ako

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002754

ni majority leader dito eh.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002755

So, yung cloud services.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002756

So, malaking bahagi talaga

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002757

nung budget,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002758

actually,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002759

procurement of cloud services.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002760

Well, our observation there is,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002761

let's see,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002762

is that

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002763

there are 12

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002764

contracts for,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002765

if I'm not mistaken,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002766

okay,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002767

12 contracts

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002768

for procurement of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002769

cloud services,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002770

but they make up

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002771

49.3%

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002772

of the total

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002773

budget,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002774

2.45 billion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002775

out of the more than 4 billion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002776

yung procurement of cloud services.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002777

Okay, from 2016

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002778

to 2025.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002779

25.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002780

At 25.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002781

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002782

Ang notable dito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002783

mostly,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002784

may,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002785

may,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002786

in some of the titles,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002787

binabanggit,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002788

AWS,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002789

Google Cloud,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002790

Google,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002791

Google Cloud Platform,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002792

pero yung iba,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002793

ang description is

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002794

Government Common Platform.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002795

So, GCP.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002796

Kala ko nung una,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002797

Google Cloud Platform.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002798

Yung pala,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002799

Government Common Platform.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002800

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002801

Well,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002802

ang tanong really is,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002803

bakit parang may third party?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002804

So, magpo-procure

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002805

ng Google services,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002806

pero hindi Google

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002807

ang kakontrata.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002808

There's a third party

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002809

vendor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002810

So, bakit po ganun?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002811

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002812

this is actually...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002813

So, third party vendors,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002814

if I may mention,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002815

for example,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002816

Vival Group,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002817

plus

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002818

PhilFox 2016

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002819

for a contract

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002820

worth 372 million,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002821

MicroD International,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002822

Maroon Studios,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002823

Crayon Software Experts,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002824

Multicore Technology,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002825

then you also have

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002826

EPLDT,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002827

and so on.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002828

Yes, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002829

if I may clarify,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002830

actually,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002831

this is a critical component,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002832

of national security

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002833

because

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002834

these are the companies

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002835

that we can chase down.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002836

These are the local counterparts

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002837

that are contracting

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002838

the international services.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002839

So, if there is a breach of data,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002840

if there is anything

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002841

that they need to be held

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002842

accountable for,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002843

it's these local companies

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002844

that we hold accountable.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002845

Ah, so yun ang explanation.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002846

That's the reason why.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002847

Because we cannot directly

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002848

give these contracts

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002849

to these international entities.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002850

However,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002851

in 2022,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002852

there are subscribes,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002853

subscription, maintenance,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002854

existing cloud infra

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002855

for Amazon Web Services

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002856

worth 165 million,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002857

and it's directly with Amazon.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002858

So, bakit ganun?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002859

Pwede naman pala diretsa eh.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002860

Okay.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002861

So, that's correct.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002862

There was direct contracting before,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002863

but that served as the precursor

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002864

for our current system

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002865

because nagkaroon po

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002866

ng legal issue.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002867

So, from that point on,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002868

it became localized.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002869

Alright.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002870

With the indulgence of our

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002871

distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002872

I'm winding up, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002873

Thank you very much.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002874

Patapos natanong ko na rin

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002875

yung last question dito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002876

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002877

So, okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002878

Well,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002879

may mga ilang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002880

questions na naliwanagan tayo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002881

For example,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002882

the role of third-party vendors.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002883

Apparently,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002884

it's mainly

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002885

jurisdictional issue.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002886

Parang ganun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002887

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002888

Pero nakita rin natin

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002889

na may mga tanong pa rin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002890

Like, you know,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002891

there's a large spend,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002892

large spending for

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002893

co-location services.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002894

Hindi directly nasagot

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002895

ng DICT

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002896

kung paano

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002897

o sino ang gumagamit nito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002898

Apparently, hindi sila.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002899

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002900

Ibang ahensya.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002901

So, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002902

with that,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002903

I end my interpellation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002904

Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002905

Thank you very much,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002906

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002907

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002908

also to interpellate

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002909

on the proposed budget,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002910

is the representative

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002911

of Gabriela Women's Party.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002912

And I therefore move

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002913

that we recognize

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-002914

Representative Sarah Jane Elago.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002915

The Honorable Elago

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002916

is recognized for interpellation.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002917

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002918

Just to follow on the

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002919

information provided

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002920

by the agency

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002921

on the information

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002922

on its measures

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002923

to prevent and minimize

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002924

online fraud and scams

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002925

and mitigate their impact

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002926

on the public.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002927

It reported that

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002928

it has proactive

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002929

public awareness

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002930

and education efforts,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002931

particularly

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002932

on

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002933

undertaking

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002934

this

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002935

efforts to raise awareness

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002936

through its official

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002937

communication channels.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002938

May we know, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002939

what these

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002940

official communication channels are?

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002941

Thank you.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002942

So we have the 1326 hotline.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002943

We also have a 24-7 action center

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002944

in Studio 7

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002945

at the CICC-DICT office.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002946

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002947

ang nais po sana nating malaman

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002948

sa particular

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002949

ay kung saan po lumalabas

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002950

halimbawa yung

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002951

impormasyon

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002952

kung paano, halimbawa,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002953

magsusumbong,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002954

kung paano magre-recognize,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002955

kung paano magreklamo,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002956

paano ba yung proseso.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002957

Yun po ay kasama sa report

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002958

ng CICC.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002959

Nabanggit dito

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002960

yung tungkol sa hotline 1326

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002961

at tungkol sa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002962

scam safe

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002963

na online scam

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002964

verification platform.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002965

Pero ang nais ko pong malaman,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002966

paano natin mas ipinapaalam po

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002967

sa publiko

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002968

na meron tayong hotline 1326

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002969

at meron tayong

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002970

scam safe platform?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002971

Well, every Thursday at 10am

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002972

it's on RTV.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002973

There's also on

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002974

their social media pages

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002975

and there's continuous

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002976

promotion across various news

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002977

outlets.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002978

But I guess para sa mga kababayan natin

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002979

para mas mabidis,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002980

sockment talaga yung pinag-amabidis.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002981

Check lang yung CICC page.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002982

I ask this, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002984

I'm concerned that

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002985

as shared by the

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002986

distinguished sponsor,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002987

the current,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002988

the existing efforts

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002989

to raise awareness

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002990

are mostly done online

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002991

through its internet

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002992

and other social media

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002993

channels

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002994

and spaces.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002995

Napakahalaga po nito

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002996

at tama po ang ating sponsor

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002997

na maraming gumagamit,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002998

mabilis rin at mura.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002999

Ngunit, sa tingin ko,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003000

kinakailangan din na meron tayong

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003001

mga offline means

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003002

para po maabot

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003003

ng ating mga kababayan

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003004

sa mga pampublikong espasyo.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003005

Nais ko rin po sanang malaman

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003006

at maibahagi at sa susunod

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003007

maiulat sa ating kapulungan

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003008

ang pagkakaroon din ng mga

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003009

partnerships sa ating

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003010

local government units,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003011

sa ating mga barangay,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003012

sa civil society,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003013

sa mga people's organizations,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003014

sa academia,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003015

para matiyak na talagang

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003016

sa panahon ngayon na napakalaganap

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003017

ng iba't ibang scam,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003018

ng iba't ibang panluloko

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003019

sa ating mga kababayan,

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003020

alam ng ating

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003021

taong bayan

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003022

kung paano sila

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003023

pag-uulat. Alam ng taong bayan

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003024

kung paano nila mahahabol

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003025

kung sino ba yung mga perpetrators

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003026

ng ganitong mga scam operations

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003027

at alam ng taong bayan

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003028

na kapag nagsumbong sila

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003029

o kapag nagsumbong

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003030

reklamo sila, ay merong

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003031

mapapanagot ang ating mga batas.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003032

Sa ngayon po ba, magkano po

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003033

ang nakalaan na pondo para dito?

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003034

Madam Speaker, I am sorry to report

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003035

that in the current NEP,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003036

there's zero allocation for information

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003037

campaigns for the CICC

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003038

with regards to this matter.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003039

Zero budget.

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003040

Kaya ho,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003041

sa ating representasyon kami po

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003042

ay mahitingi ng detalye

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003043

ng specific

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003044

na projects

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003045

kung merong proposed na line item

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003046

para matiyak na

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003047

tuloy-tuloy ang ating

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003048

public information and education

Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003049

efforts

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003050

online at offline.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003051

Opo. Pero, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003052

just to highlight

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003053

the efforts of the DICT,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003054

kahit limitado po ang pondo ng DICT

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003055

sa information campaigns po nila,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003056

they have the partnership with RTV

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003057

which is offline.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003058

Of course, as mentioned,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003059

there are the online social media

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003060

which is basically

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003061

in-house. So, there's no cost

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003062

on that. But also,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003063

my colleagues here from DICT

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003064

are saying that they have

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003065

roadshows and partnerships

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003066

with the LGUs

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003067

to push information

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003068

across the 16 different regions.

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003069

So, meron po,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003070

kahit wala namang pondo,

Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003077

naghahanap ng paraan po ang DICT para sa kanilang information campaigns to protect from online sexual abuse and misinformation and scams.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003078

Maraming salamat. At Madam Speaker, natanong ko ito dahil kamakailan lang maraming lumabas na mga exclusive reports

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003079

tungkol sa mas matinding, mas laganap, mas marami ng mga kaso ng technology-facilitated gender-based violence.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003080

Isa na yung exclusive report mula sa Rappler tungkol sa 430,000 plus member forum na nagsistream ng mga privado at intimate moments ng mga kababaihan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003081

Nandyan din po ang lumabas na ulat mula sa CNN tungkol sa emergence ng mga global rape academy.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003082

Napakahirap pong sabihin kasi hindi po katanggap.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003083

Nandyan din po ang mga espasyo, mga Philippine online forum na nagbibigay ng rewards sa submission ng mga non-consensual intimate content.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003084

Sa mga platforms na namag-get yung kanina, sa ating hotline, sa ating online platforms,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003085

yung ating po bang mga first responders, mga tumatanggap ng tawag,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003086

sumailalim sa isang gender sensitivity training, first aid responders training para po sa pagtanggap ng ganitong tipo ng mga kaso na may kinalaman sa gender-based violence.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003087

So legitimate naman talaga po yung concern ng colleague po natin.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003088

Dapat may tamang training po ang ating first responders.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003089

The CWC is in partnership with the CICC in providing our first responders with the proper training.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003090

Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003091

Bukod po sa Council for the Welfare of Children para sa pagtitiyak na child-friendly ang ating pag-usap,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003092

sensitive sa mga needs ng ating mga bata at ng mga kabataan,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003093

halimbawa sa Philippine Commission on Women,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003094

yung partnership natin para sa pagtitiyak na hindi lang gender-sensitive pero gender-affirmative din.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003095

Yung pagtitiyak natin na lahat na hindi lang naman po kababaihan,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003096

pinakamarami pa rin sa mga kababaihan, pinakamadalas,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003097

pero maaari din pong nagiging target ng abuse ang men, boys, at gender-diverse people.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003098

Magandang suggestion.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003099

Magandang suggestion po yan, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003100

May commitment po ako galing sa CICC na agad-agad they will reach out to the Commission on Women

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003101

to be able to get their input as well regarding this matter.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003102

Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003103

At meron na tayong mga civil society organizations na nagsisimula na mag-develop ng modules

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003104

para po pakipagtulungan sa paglaban sa technology-facilitated gender-based violence.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003105

At aasahan po natin.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003106

Sana po for 2027, meron din mga pondo ang DICT, ang National Privacy Commission

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003107

para mapagyaman ang mga tulungan na ito at lahat tayo ay magsama-sama sa paglaban sa TFGBV.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003108

Ngayon naman po, I'd like to ask about the role of the DICT as well as the National Privacy Commission

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003109

on the recent adoption of the International...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003110

International Labor Organization Convention No. 193.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003111

This is the very first international labor standard created specifically for digital platform workers

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003112

such as those working in the gig economy, delivery and online application workers.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003113

This is particularly relevant for DICC, for example, because it covers the protection,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003114

on algorithmic transparency and management, requiring online platforms to inform workers

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003115

and their representatives about automated monitoring and evaluation systems

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003116

and to provide safeguards against unlawful or discriminatory suspension, deactivation or termination.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003117

May we know, Madam Speaker, if the DICC or the NPC already have their position on this?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003118

And will the departments, will the commissions actively campaign for its ratification here in the Philippines,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003119

considering that we have a considerable number of workforce working in the ICT-related sector?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003120

And how does the ICT and the commissions here intend to consult their stakeholders

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003121

from the platform managers, administrators, owners, to the workers?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003122

May kasama po ba tayong pondo para matiyak na broad, wide,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003123

yung mga magiging konsultasyon natin sa stakeholders para sa ILO Convention No. 193?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003124

Madam Speaker, nabanggit ko po dito ang NPC dahil isa din sa mga guarantees ng convention na ito,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003125

ang data protection and privacy.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003126

Unfortunately, Madam Speaker, sa ngayon wala pa silang policy regarding this matter

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003127

at wala po silang pondo to support furthering this.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003128

However,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003129

in terms of stakeholder consultation,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003130

I have confirmation that they do have stakeholder consultations as well as capacity building.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003131

But for this specific matter, wala pa po silang internal policy.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003132

But maybe I can ask my colleague and our other colleagues in the minority

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003133

for their position regarding this to help inform the agency.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003134

Madam Speaker, will the distinguished sponsor, will the department,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003135

commit to a study this particular convention and sit not only with these representatives

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003136

but stakeholders from workers' groups who are also calling for algorithmic transparency?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003137

There is a commitment from the DICT and its attached agency to conduct the necessary study for this.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003138

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003139

Maraming salamat po.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003140

Majority Leader?

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-003142

Maraming salamat.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-003143

Madam Speaker, last to interpellate on the proposed budget is Philreka Party-list representative.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-003144

I therefore move that we recognize Congressman Presley De Jesus.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003145

The distinguished gentleman representing Philreka Party-list,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003146

Honorable Presley De Jesus, is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003148

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003149

After the Ateneo de Zamboanga school shooting,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003150

DICT and CICC publicly raised the possibility of blocking Facebook as a last resort

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003151

over delayed takedowns of violent content, child safety concerns, and misinformation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003152

Malakanyang later said there is no ban for now,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003153

and that the government is cooperating.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003154

And talks were held in Singapore.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003155

What really transpired in Singapore?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003156

Nagkaroon ko ba ng usapan po nung pumunta po kayo?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003157

Because I remember during committee hearing, Madam Chair,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003158

nabanggit na [unclear] Secretary, nagkaroon daw ng dialogue sa Singapore.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003159

Can you update us what transpired on that said meeting?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003160

Yes. Madam Secretary, if I'm not mistaken, members of the DICT and CICC,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003161

flew to Singapore to consult and explain the situation here in the Philippines to META.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003162

And I believe they're working towards an MOU, an MOA, rather, with META

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003163

to be able to address the growing concerns of influence on minors here in the Philippines,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003164

among other concerns that are happening within the META platform, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003165

Thank you.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003166

Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003167

one of the primary mandates of the DICT is the security of critical ICT infrastructure,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003168

which includes the information assets of government, individuals, and businesses,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003169

as well as the protection of consumers' privacy, security, and confidentiality.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003170

My question will focus on DICT's follow-through,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003171

as well as the security of the META platform.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003172

The DICT also announced an agreement with META on online scams,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003173

particularly those occurring through Facebook and other META platforms.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003174

The DICT announced an agreement with META as early as February 2026,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003175

covering fake investment schemes, phishing, digital fraud, online scams, and deep fakes.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003176

What does the agreement actually entail, Mr. Speaker?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003177

So, Madam Speaker, the agreement that was being referred to is separate from the MOA that they're currently working on.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003178

And to update my colleague, because of the urgency,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003179

as of yesterday, the DICT and CICC have already started their technical working group with META

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003180

to be able to address the concerns of our constituents with regards to these matters.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003181

However, on the status of the TWG,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003182

because they're just about to start,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003183

they're only doing role assignments and immediate target setting.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003184

But as the days go on, we'll see immediate action from the relevant agencies, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003185

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003186

By the way, how many, as far as Facebook account,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003187

do they have Facebook or the META as an office here in the Philippines?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003188

Madam Speaker, I would like to confirm that Facebook does have a physical office here in the Philippines.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003189

However, we don't have jurisdiction over them, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003190

dahil marketing office lang po ito.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003191

So, in short, Madam Speaker, wala talaga silang office, only marketing arm.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003192

Ibig sabihin, pang-marketing, pang-recruit lang.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003193

So, what I'm trying to say, do they have a country manager here in the Philippines?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003195

And how many employees do they employ?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003196

There's only a handful of employees here in the Philippines, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003197

and they don't have an official country manager for the Philippines.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003198

But I would like to assure my colleague that one of the terms that,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003199

the two of the terms that are being considered in this technical working group

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003200

is one, that they do have a physical office here in the Philippines,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003201

a corporate office here in the Philippines,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003202

and that two,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003203

that they require the national ID already for users of META here in the Philippines.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003204

And it's been done before.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003205

I want to point that out, that Brazil has already implemented such a system

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003206

because of their age restrictions.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003207

So, it is possible.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003208

Madam Speaker, what I'm trying to say, do they have office?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003209

Do they have managers?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003210

Not the marketing itself.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003211

Yun ang gusto naming mangyari.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003212

See?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003213

There's none.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003214

Madam Speaker, we don't have jurisdiction.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003215

I agree with my colleague.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003216

It's ridiculous.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003217

Considering that the Philippines is the fifth largest population on META,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003218

that META does not have an actual country manager and a real office here in the Philippines,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003219

considering the amount of capital that this country provides META through its engagement on the platform.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003220

So, I agree with my colleague here.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003221

This is a priority for us.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003222

Madam Speaker, the distinguished sponsor mentioned a while ago that we are,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003223

the fifth largest users of META.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003224

Imagine, the entire, sa buong mundo, pang lima tayo,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003225

and we're only, what, 120 million Filipinos compared to other countries,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003226

transing billions.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003227

But again, so we're being ignored.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003228

I'm not trying to blame the ICT, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003229

Ito po yung sinasabi natin.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003230

We keep on making their businesses.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003231

Big.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003232

But in return, hindi mo lang tayo mapansin.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003233

Not even as office here in the Philippines, hindi maibigay sa atin.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003234

And they have to follow the Philippine laws, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003235

So, my next question, ano po ang ginawa ng DICT?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003236

Did you persuade them na magtayo kayo sa opisina?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003237

Opisina, that you have a country manager,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003238

that you have the organizational structure that will look into sa mga scammers?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003239

Ang dami nang lumalabas, kawawa ang ating mga kababayan.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003240

Well, the two non-negotiables, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003241

are one, that they open an actual office here in the Philippines

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003242

so that they can be held accountable.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003243

And two, Madam Speaker, again, for the sake of accountability and protection on social media,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003244

the requirement of national ID in order to create or maintain your account on the META platform,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003245

here in the Philippines.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003246

So, these are steps that are being taken.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003247

To be fair to META, META seems open to these requirements and have even cited other countries in which they had similar requirements and acted on it.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003248

So we're moving in that direction and the results of this technical working group that just started, hopefully we'll be able to see it within the next few months.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003249

Again, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, the concern is that DICT has several programs, publicized partnerships and coordination mechanisms, but we know, but we don't have visibility of the result of those initiatives.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003250

What system does DICT currently have to ensure that actions announced by the department are actually monitored through implementation?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003251

Madam Speaker, I want to share with my colleague here and all the members of Congress that there is actual action that DICT is taking to hold META accountable.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003252

And what I have here in my hand, Madam Speaker, is a copy of several documents that have been submitted to the Office of the Solicitor General to possibly build up a case against META for abuses that take place on their platform,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003253

which they turn...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003254

A blind eye too.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003255

So in this, we have in Annex A, a draft of a civil complaint, which was prepared by the DICT.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003256

In Annex B, there is a formal request drawing from global litigation precedents in Brazil, New Mexico, and Los Angeles that recognize platforms as active participants rather than passive intermediaries of actions taken on their platform.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003257

Annex C actually has...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003258

All the evidence and documentation of abuse, that's OSAEC, CSAEM, financial fraud, online debt harassment, illegal gambling,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003259

records of platform knowledge and inaction is also included in this document in Annex C.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003260

In Annex D, the National Privacy Commission asserted its regulatory jurisdiction over META

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003261

in relation to the processing of personal data for AI-generated content and functionalities.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003262

And the NTC submitted its legal position paper on a test case for courts to propose action to be taken against Facebook in Annex E.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003263

So the DICT and its attached agencies aren't just sitting around waiting for something to happen.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003264

They've already prepared the necessary evidence, documents,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003265

and potential cases to hold META accountable should they not work together with our government.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003266

So I would like to request the assistance of a page to pass a copy of this to my colleague

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003267

so that my colleague would be able to go over the document.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003268

Madam Speaker, what if I file a House resolution in aid of legislation and I will summon the DICT

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003269

and who will be the representatives from META?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003270

Sino bang papadala lang?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003271

Kali mag-file ako ng House resolution with regard to what happened to Zamboanga massacre.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003272

And of course, yung mga kanilang violation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003273

Sino ang pupunta rito from META?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003274

Anyone from META?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003275

Will be held responsible?

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003276

From the DICT, they themselves wrote directly to Mark Zuckerberg to ask him to confront these issues which we are facing.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003277

Although...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003278

There was no response.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003279

Madam Speaker, I don't think the founder, Mark Zuckerberg, will come here.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003280

Para sa atin, ganito lang tayo sa kanya.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003281

They make a lot of money through Facebook.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003282

Alam naman nila na puri karamihan is...

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003283

I'm not saying the whole thing, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003284

Because I don't have...

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003285

Myself, I don't have Facebook account, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003286

Kasi alam ko maraming kalokohan dyan, pero maraming gumagamit at karamihan sa ating mga kababayan

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003287

ay kumikita naman dyan, in fairness.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003288

To Facebook, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003289

To META.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003290

But again, we're talking about responsibility.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003291

We're talking about yung kailangan nila maging, ano sila rito, accountable.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003292

Yan po ang kailangan natin, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003293

Madam Speaker, though Mark Zuckerberg himself never showed up in countries like Brazil and others,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003294

they did send legal representation to confront the issues in other countries.

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003295

So, I assume...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003296

Kung magkaroon po tayo ng isang...

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003297

Kung magkaroon po tayo ng isang House Resolution investigating this,

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Rep. Brian Poe

asr-003298

kailangan na kailangan magpadala ng representation ang META to confront these valid issues from the House of Representatives.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003299

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003300

the issue then is not the absence of initiatives,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003301

but whether the ICT has sufficient mechanisms to monitor implementation and measure actual results.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003302

I appreciate the responses of the Department,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003303

and the good sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003304

However, I remain concerned that there is still insufficient information before this body

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003305

regarding the actual outcomes of the ICT's anti-scam initiatives.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003306

The Department has entered into agreement, established reporting mechanisms,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003307

and coordinated with private platforms and law enforcement agency.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003308

But,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003309

for purposes of budget review,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003310

this Committee must also be able to determine what happened after those actions were initiated.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003311

Without that information,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003312

it is difficult for Congress to properly assess whether the resources being requested are producing the intended outcomes.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003313

Accordingly, Madam Chair,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003314

until those matters are a satisfactory address,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003315

and the Department can...

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003316

and the Department can present measurables, deliverables.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003317

Madam Speaker, it pains me, but I have no choice.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-003318

I move that for consideration of the budget of the Department of Information and Communication Technology be deferred.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-003319

Madam Speaker,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003320

Majority Leader,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-003321

on the part of the majority,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-003322

we join the minority in the motion to defer the period of interpellations on the proposed budget

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-003323

of the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores

asr-003324

including its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003325

Because of the wisdom of the minority,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003326

that the plan of the ICT insofar as curbing scams,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003327

and victimizing our children on the negative aspects,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003328

especially on their behavior,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003329

has not been addressed well,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003330

there is a motion from the minority,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003331

duly supported by the majority,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003332

to defer consideration of the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003333

including its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003334

Do we hear an objection?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003335

Hearing none, said motion.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003336

Motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003337

Consideration of the budget of DICT,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003338

the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003339

including its attached agencies,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003340

hereby deferred.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003341

Session suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003377

May we request the DOLE family to be seated so we can start?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003378

Session resumed.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003379

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-003380

Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Labor and Employment, including its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003381

An objection? Hearing none.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003382

The motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Labor and Employment, including its attached agencies, is hereby open.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003383

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-003384

Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Department of Labor and Employment, namely DOLE Secretary Francis Tolentino,

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-003385

TESDA Secretary Jose Francisco Kiko Benitez, Undersecretary Warren Miclat, Undersecretary Felipe Egargo Jr.,

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-003386

Undersecretary Carmela Torres, and we would also like to acknowledge the presence of the heads of attached agencies, regional directors, other officials and employees of DOLE.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003387

The Department of Labor and Employment family, together with its attached agencies, headed by our very good friend, colleague, and former boss and mentor, Secretary Francis Tolentino,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003389

Ang gabay at tatay ng ating mga manggagawa.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003390

At kamanggagawa, maraming salamat po sa inyong pagdalo dito sa Kongreso.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003391

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-003392

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Rommel Angara of the Lone District of Aurora

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-003393

and the Honorable Vice Chair Maria Angela Garcia of the Third District of Bataan to sponsor the proposed budget of DOLE.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003394

The Honorable Vice Chair Rommel Angara is hereby recognized

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003395

Sponsor the budget of the Department of Labor and Employment.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003396

And of course, the Honorable Vice Chair Maria Angela Garcia, sponsor of the proposed budget of TESDA, are hereby recognized.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003397

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003398

Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003399

Ngayong gabing ito, at tayo na po ang huling magkakaroon ng depensa sa ating budget ng ating Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003400

kasama na po ang ating attached agencies, including TESDA.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003401

For the NEP of 2027, Department of Labor and Employment has Php 47,057,355,000.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003402

Sa aking mga kasamahan dito sa Kongreso, ang ating budget po noong ating 2026 GAA ay Php 61.2 billion.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003403

So mayroon po tayong Php 14.1 billion na nabawas sa ating pondo na alam kong napakahalaga pagdating sa pagdating sa pagservisyo ng mandato ng ating Departamento.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003404

At that same time, pagbibigay ng mga karagdagang skills to upskill our workforce in the future.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003405

Ako ay naniniwala na sa ating mga kasamahan at pagdating ng ating mga susunod pa mga deliberasyon na sana ang hiling po natin ay madagdagan o may balikman lamang yung pondong kinakailangan para lubusang magampanan ng ating Departamento ang kanilang mandato.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003406

Pangalawa, sa ating bagong Secretary Francis Tolentino, alam po ninyo,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003407

ang mga initiatives under his new leadership na kung saan sa aking palagay ay malaki ang maitutulong para sa ating Departamento at sa ating mga laborers and workers, hindi lamang sa NCR, bagkos sa buong Pilipinas.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003408

Una, ay hinihingi rin niya po sa Kongreso ang karagdagan na sana ay magkaroon ng karagdagang Php 75 million upang sa ating Labor Attorney's Office.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003409

Ano po ito, aking mga kasamahan?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003410

Siyempre po, alam naman po natin na ang PAO ay libre na po sa ating mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003411

Subalit, sa dami po ng kaso na mga kinakaharap ng ating PAO, minabuti ng ating butihing Secretary na mayroong tututok sa ating mga manggagawa, oras na ito ay magkaroon ng free legal assistance, yan po ang ating Labor Attorney's Office in conjunction o kasama po dito yung bagong itatayo na NALJ o National Academy for Labor Justice.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003412

Kaya sa aking mga kasamahan, I'm sure ito po ay napakahalaga.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003413

para ma-implement ngayong 2026 and moving forward hanggang 2027 para siguraduhin natin na ang ating mga workers, hindi lamang sa Metro Manila bagkos sa buong Pilipinas, ay magkaroon ng kahit papaano ay social protection at meron silang masasandalan pagdating ng oras ng kinakailangan. So Madam Speaker, this representation from the Lone District of Aurora is now ready for interpellation together with Maria Angela Garcia for TESDA. Madam Speaker, we're now open for interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003414

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-003415

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Elijah San Fernando of Partylist Kamanggagawa to interpolate on the proposed budget of the DOLE.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003416

The Honorable Elijah San Fernando is hereby recognized for his interpolation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003417

Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, at sa ating kaibigan, ang kagalang-galang na Romel Angara, sponsor po ng budget ng Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003418

Malinaw po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003419

Ang mandato ng Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003420

Ito ay ipagtanggol at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003421

Diyan pa lamang po, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, napakabigat na na responsibilidad ang nakaatang sa Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003422

Pero Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003423

ang malaking tanong ng mga manggagawa,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003424

bakit sa hinihinging budget ng Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003425

67% o tumataginting na 14 bilyong piso,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003426

ang ilalaan para sa DOLE, Office of the Secretary, particular sa programang tupad, Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003427

What is the question, Distinguished Colleague?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003428

Bakit po, 67% o tumataginting na 14 bilyong piso, ang ilalaan ng DOLE, Office of the Secretary, sa programang tupad, Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003429

Thank you for that, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003430

Alam mo po,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003431

pag dinisek mo po yung ating pondo ng Office of the Secretary,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003432

kasi pagdating po, doon lang po ilalagak yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003433

Pero eventually, pagdating ng implementation, it will be trickled down to the regional offices,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003434

down to provincial levels, per district, per town,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003435

para magkaroon po ng employment at tulong sa ating mga kababayan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003436

Simple as that, Madam Speaker and ating Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003437

So, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003438

binibigyang matwid ngayon ng Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003439

na mahigit kalahati ng budget na hinihingi ng DOLE for the Office of the Secretary,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003440

ay ilalaan sa tupad kung ang isa sa malaking mandato ng DOLE

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003441

ay proteksyonan, ipagtanggol, at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003442

Papaano maiintindihan ng mga manggagawa na ginagampanan ng DOLE

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003443

ang napakaraming mga responsibilidad na ito

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003444

kung 67% ng budget,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003445

ay ilalagak natin sa Office of the Secretary,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003446

partikular sa programang tupad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003447

Ang binabanggit po ng butihing sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003448

ay para daw po makapag-provide ng mga emergency na trabaho.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003449

Tama po ba ito, Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003450

That is correct, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003451

So, malinaw po ba na refleksyon ito ng labor policy ng ating pamahalaan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003452

kung saan mas binibigyang prioridad ang mga emergency jobs?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003453

Sa halip ng lumikha ng mga trabahong pangmatagalan at dekalidad,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003454

Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003455

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003456

Yes, alam mo, yung tupad was started during the pandemic.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003457

And I agree with you.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003458

Pero you also have to understand, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003459

sa ating bansa ng Pilipinas, unfortunately,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003460

nagkaroon tayo ng mga natural disasters.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003461

Alam mo, pag nangyari ito, even the local governments,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003462

I came from the local government,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003463

minsan karamihan dyan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003464

walang pera,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003465

para pang salba sa ating mga naaksidente, binagyo, so on and so forth.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003466

Even pag nagkaroon ng programa para sa ating transport group,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003467

papasok po ang tupad.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003468

Yes, I get your point na sinasabi po ninyo na dapat lamang ba ay trabaho natin.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003469

You also have to understand o dapat po nating alalanin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003470

puwera sa polisiya na paggawa ng formats, programs ng DOLE,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003471

ay kinakailangan na sa mandato rin ito ay magkaroon ng trabaho para sa ating mamamayang Pilipino.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003472

It is not per se na kinakailangan natin na ito ay patuloy na ginagawa,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003473

pero unfortunately, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003474

ito po ay at the end of the day,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003475

kada probinsya at ang buong bansa ay talaga minsan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003476

unfortunately, ay nangangailangan ng ayuda at tulong para sa ating mga mamamayan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003477

Maganda po na nabanggit, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003478

ng ating butihing sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003479

na meron tayong mga isinasaalang-alang na mga konsiderasyon gaya ng krisis.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003480

Ngunit, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003481

hindi po tinatanggap ng representasyong ito na gagamitin dahilan ang krisis

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003482

para sa paglobo ng budget ng tupad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003483

In fact, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003484

makikita natin,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003485

sa loob ng sampung taon mula 2016,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003486

hindi nagbago, virtually the same,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003487

ang pondong inilalaan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003488

ng mga trabaho o mandato

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003489

ng Dole Office of the Secretary

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003490

samantalang kitang-kita

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003491

ang papalubo at papalaking bilang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003492

ng inilalagak natin sa tupad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003493

So, hindi po maaaring sabihin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003494

na dahil sa krisis, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003495

dahil bago pa man magkaroon ng krisis,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003496

ang Dole, batay sa kanyang budget,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003497

papalaki ng papalaki ang inilalagak sa tupad

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003498

kaysa palakihin ang budget

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003499

doon sa iba pa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003500

Ano ang mga funksyon ng Department of Labor and Employment?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003501

Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003502

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003503

I'd like to correct the facts.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003504

Sa Office of the Secretary, it's not 67%, but 52%.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003505

For the record, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003506

and secondly,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003507

tama po, but you also have to understand,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003508

tupad per se is not just tupad per se.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003509

It also includes the government internship program

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003510

na kung saan yung ating mga fresh graduates

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003511

ay papasok sa ating mga gobyerno

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003512

upang sagayoy mag-gain sila ng employability

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003513

at mag-gain sila ng employability

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003514

alam naman po natin dito sa ating bansa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003515

na kung saan karamihan ng mga ating employers

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003516

ay nangangailangan ng kinakailangan experience

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003517

para ito ay sila'y ma-hire.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003518

And in fact, sabi ko nga,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003519

because of this situation,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003520

ay ito po ay maraming mga fresh graduates

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003521

ang makikinabang dito.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003522

Sabi ko nga, ang isa sa mandato

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003523

ng ating departemento

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003524

ay mag-create ng ating mga trabaho

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003525

not only for the normal na manggagawa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003526

but also sa ating mga fresh graduates

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003527

dito sa ating bansa.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003528

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003529

Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003530

binabanggit po ng DOLE na hindi 67%,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003531

kundi 52% lamang.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003532

Pero malinaw po, doon sa budget ng DOLE,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003533

wala naman kasing distinksyon

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003534

ang TUPAD at GIP.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003535

So kapag sinuma natin,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003536

67% ang nasa TUPAD, hindi 52%.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003537

Be that as it may, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003538

ang punto natin, mahigit kalahati pa rin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003539

ng pondo ang inilalagak sa TUPAD.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003540

Kaya ako po ito tinanong,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003541

Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003542

kasi sa 2025 COA findings,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003543

sangkatutak na irregularidad ang nakita sa TUPAD.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003544

Halimbawa, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003545

base sa audit findings ng COA,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003546

may mga benepisaryo ang TUPAD

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003547

na nakakatanggap ng payout,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003548

hindi lang po isang beses,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003549

hindi lang dalawang beses,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003550

kundi tatlo hanggang apat na beses,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003551

na nakakatanggap ng payout.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003552

Mismong DOLE ay nagva-violate ng guidelines o rule

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003553

pagdating sa TUPAD.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003554

One per family per year.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003555

Tapos ngayon, nagre-request uli ang Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003556

Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003557

ng pagkalaki-laking budget na naman sa TUPAD

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003558

na hindi pa nare-resolve ba ang sistema dito

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003559

sa mga benepisaryo ng TUPAD.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003560

Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003561

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003562

Yes, to answer directly sa ating katanungan ng ating sponsor,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003563

I clarify that also to the Department.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003564

Siguro ang tinutukoy niyo po dito ay yung 1,275

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003565

na naka-finlag ng COA, na Commission on Audit,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003566

na kung saan nakatanggap ito di umano ng dalawang beses.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003567

For the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003568

pinanong na po natin kung sa regional director,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003569

kung saan region ito ay nangyari base doon sa ating COA report.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003570

At doon po sa sinasabing 1,275, may explanation po dyan at ito po iyon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003571

Una, yung 1,275 na binabanggit ay nagkamali po yun sa database lamang.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003572

Because kasama po doon sa mga 1,275 na iyon,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003573

let me reiterate, Mr. Distinguished Colleague, na yes, tama ka doon sa sinabi mong isang beses lamang.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003574

Pwede magtupad. Pero there's an exception to it.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003575

Pag may kalamidad, pwedeng umulit po. That's for the record.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003576

Pero nung ito ay nating nadiskubre doon sa database po, nagkamali lamang sa database.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003577

At ito ay naayos na po natin sa Commission on Audit.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003578

At kinalabasan po dito na 15 lamang out of the 1,275 ang nagkaroon ng doubling payment.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003579

And for the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003580

doon sa labing limang iyon, sinigurado rin po natin, siyempre, sabi ko nga po, ang dole ay laging susunod.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003581

sa alituntunin ng batas at lalo na sa sarili niyang requirement na dapat isang beses lamang bayaran ang isang nagmembro o nagtrabaho para sa tupad.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003582

And for information of the body, kahit i-double check po natin, yung labing limang recipient po yun ay nakuha na po muli yung ating pondo

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003583

dahil nagkamali nga po at yan po ay ni-report na po namin sa COA, Madam Speaker at Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003584

Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, hindi lang po 1,275 beneficiaries. Batay po sa COA findings, meron din pong nakakuha sa Saksargen,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003585

330 persons collected assistance twice, 57 collected three times, and 132 collected four times.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003586

So hindi po po pwedeng gamitin na palusot ng dole na meron lang simpleng problema sa database.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003587

Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, hindi po kami nagpapalusot, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003588

Based dun po sa mga binanggit po niyo sa Saksargen and the rest, all of those are already settled sa COA.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003589

Sabi ko nga po, hindi po po pwedeng kami po ay very strict pertaining sa implementation ng hindi lamang sa tupad,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003590

bagkos sa lahat ng programa ng ating Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003591

At sisiguraduin ko po sa inyo, after this, we can give you the data na kung saan na binigay na po namin sa Commission on Oil,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003592

at nasettle na po yung lahat ng ating gagawin.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003593

In short, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, dun sa mga binanggit po natin, may ito be Saksargen, may ito be Zamboanga Peninsula,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003594

at the end of the day, kahit saan po yan, sisiguraduin namin, sabi ko nga po, minsan nagkakamali at inaamin during the aking example,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003595

pero sinisigurado namin, nire-retract natin ito, ginagawa natin tama at sumusunod sa alituntunin ng ating Commission on Audit, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003596

Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003597

Madam Speaker, dahil pinagtibay lang ng ating butihing sponsor, ang ating binabanggit kanina, na ang pondo, malaking pondo na inilalagak sa Dole, Office of the Secretary, ay napupunta sa Tupad,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003598

at mas pinagtibay pa ito ng ating pinag-uusapan kanina. At dyan po ako tutungo.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003599

Ulitin lang po natin, ano nga ba ang mandato ng Department of Labor and Employment?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003600

Ipagtanggol at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003601

At isa sa paraan para itaguyod at ipagtanggol ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa ay sa pamamagitan ng labor inspeksyon.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003602

Kaya nga po, kinikilala mismo ni Sekretary ng butihing Sekretary ng Department of Labor and Employment, kulang naman talaga ang mga labor inspectors.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003603

Kaya kailangan natin dagdagan ng budget. Ito po ang malaking tanong.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003604

Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, kung kinikilala ng Department of Labor and Employment ang malaking kakulangan sa mga inspektor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003605

bakit sa halip nalagakan ng mas malaking pondo ang ating mga labor inspektor ay inilalaan ito muli sa Tupad?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003606

Papaano ngayon tinitindigan ng Department of Labor and Employment ang kanyang mandato?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003607

Kung sa simpleng labor inspektor ay hindi nito magawang tindigan ang kanyang mandato.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003608

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, maraming salamat po dun sa pagbigay mo ng impormasyon na iyon. Bakit?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003609

Una, kasi nga po, tandaan po natin, pag in terms of plantilya positions, it has to run through the Department of Budget and Management.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003610

At sinabi na rin po natin during the budget hearing, ang actual plantilya positions po natin, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ay 1,210.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003611

Pero ang ating actual lamang is around 1,046.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003612

At nabanggit din po sa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003613

nasabing

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003614

budget hearing, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, sa lawak ng kakailangan inspeksyonin, and again, I'd like to quote the Secretary, sa Region 3 alone, mahigit 7,000 na ang kailangang inspeksyunin.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003615

Iyon po ay isang region lamang po. Pero kapag buong kabuan, sa suma total ay halos kailangan mo ng 9,000 na labor inspectors.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003616

At iyan po ay binanggit po natin nung nanakaraang budget hearing ng Department of Labor and Employment na sana,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003617

not in one year, kahit staggered po, kahit within 10 years, pero sana para lalo natin mapagsilbihan yung ating mga manggagawa, maportereksyonan sila doon sa mga ating labor inspections, ay sana ay madagdagan ito eventually in the long run.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003618

Kaya nga po, Mr. Sponsor, hindi po nasagot ang tanong.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003619

Nangangailangan ng malaking bilang na mga labor inspector ang DOLE.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003620

Pero sa halip na ilagak ng Office of the Secretary ng DOLE ang pondo sa mga labor inspector,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003621

mas minarapat ng DOLE na maglagak ng mas malaking pondo sa TUPAD.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003622

Hindi po sinasagot ng Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003623

TUPAD? Labor Inspector.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003624

Just to prove a point, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003625

alam niyo po kung gaano ka-absurd yung itsura ng budget ng Department of Labor and Employment, Office of the Secretary?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003626

Admin cost ng TUPAD?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003627

712 million pesos.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003628

Samantala, ang sahod ng mga labor inspector, 605 million pesos lang.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003629

Ano ba namang klaseng kalokohan yan, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003630

Mas malaki ang nilalagak sa admin cost ng TUPAD kaysa pagpapasahod ng mga labor inspector.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003631

Batid po ba ng Department of Labor and Employment?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003632

Gaano kahirap ang buhay ng mga inspector?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003633

Ako po mismo, ang kinatawang ito, ay sumama sa mga inspector sa Laguna.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003634

Tapos ang maririnig po natin ngayon, eh mas okay na na mas lakihan ng budget sa TUPAD kaysa sa mga labor inspector.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003635

At ang gagamitin na dahilan, eh keso kulang ang budget o mahirap yung mga proseso.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003636

Hindi po maunawaan nito, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003637

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003638

unang-unang, I'd like to go back na sinabi mong hindi nasagot.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003639

Sinagot ko po yung katanungan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003640

Kasi nga po, hindi naman nakalagak yan sa DOLE per se.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003641

Kaya nga po hinihingi ng aming Departamento.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003642

Again, I'm sure you're familiar, alam mo po yung proseso, Congressman Eli,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003643

na hindi basta-basta ay pipwedeng ikaw ay maglagay lamang ng ating mga inspectors.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003644

It has to go through the process, DBM, so on and so forth.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003645

And yun po ay sinagot po natin nung ulang statement po agad natin.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003646

Ngayon, patukol naman ito, eh.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003647

Ngayon, patukol naman doon sa ating mga pasweldo ng ating mga ano,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003648

based doon sa records po namin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003649

yung 524 million na pasweldo natin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003650

P.S.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003651

mas mataas po kesa doon sa ating

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003652

P.S. pa lang po ang binibilang natin dito, Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003653

So kapag sinuma natin, mas malaki pa rin ang admin cost ng tupad

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003654

kaysa sa pasweldo ng mga labor inspector.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003655

Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003656

Pasweldo? Ano pa yung admin?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003657

Yes. It is the part of the...

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003658

parte po yun nung sa ating sweldo, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003659

Kaya nga po, yun po ang binabigit po.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003660

Kasi admin cost po kasi is 5%. Diba?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003661

Tama po. Nasa special provision. Tama po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003662

Yes. That's correct.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003663

Kaya ang pinupunto po ng kinatawang ito, eh bakit mas malaki ang hinihinging budget

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003664

ng DOLE Office of the Secretary sa tupad,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003665

5% of which mapupunta sa admin cost,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003666

samantalang napakalaki ng problema at pangangailangan sa mga labor inspector.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003667

This is what I'm pointing about.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003668

Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003669

ang daming dapat nai-inspect ng mga business establishments

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003670

pero mas pinipili ng Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003671

na maglagak sa tupad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003672

Eh paano matitiyak na napoproteksyonan ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003673

kung puro tupad ang Department of Labor and Employment?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003674

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003675

sabi ko nga po kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003676

pertaining doon sa ating tupad,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003677

it is not only per se na tupad.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003678

Binanggit niyo po yan sa ating Government Internship Program.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003679

Pero pag sino matutal mo po, hindi naman po kami nagkulang pertaining sa ating pinaglalaban.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003680

I agree with you. Bakit?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003681

Kaya nga po kami nagre-request ng karagdagan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003682

That was clear as day na sana kung kami ay tutulungan ng kapulungan na ito

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003683

kasama ang Senado at ating national budget,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003684

kaya nga po ang kinakailangan na plantilya positions

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003685

based sa ating statement nung ating budget healing

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003686

ay 9,000 na labor inspectors ang kailangan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003687

Alam mo, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003688

it is very very difficult to balance everything.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003689

Maraming pangangailangan pero ito ay kapos lamang.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003690

Maraming mandato ang ating Departamento.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003691

One, magbigay ng trabaho.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003692

Pangalawa, to secure the safetiness of our workers in every aspect possible.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003693

So sabi ko nga po, hindi naman tayo magkakaroon ng malaking problema

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003694

kung ito ay sapat yung ating pondo.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003695

But, kahit hindi po sapat yung pondo namin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003696

ito po ay nagagampanan naman namin yung aming trabaho.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003697

Yan ay based dun sa results ng ating mga performance sa NLRC,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003698

sa ating mga patrabaho, sa job start.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003699

In fact, nung September 14, nagkaroon po tayo ng nationwide na programa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003700

ang ating Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003701

So again, we are not just focused o di lang kami nagtutuon sa isang programa.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003702

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003703

Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, hindi nga po nagtutugma yung binabanggit nyo

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003704

doon sa budget allocation ng DOLE.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003705

Sinasabi nyo napakaraming responsibilidad ng DOLE.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003706

Pero malaking bahagdan ay napupunta nga doon sa TUPAD.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003707

So hindi po sinagot ng distinguished sponsor natin yung problema ang hinaharap.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003708

Sinasabi nyo po, kailangan dagdagan ng budget.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003709

Eh bakit hindi natin gawin?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003710

Ilagak yung mas malaking bahagi na nilaalaan natin doon sa TUPAD,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003711

ibigay natin doon sa ibang mandato at functions.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003712

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003713

Sinagot ko po kanina, with all due respect,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003714

hindi ka po pa pwedeng maglagay ng labor inspectors first.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003715

Kahit may pondo ka po, kinakailangan may plantilla positions first.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003716

That I understand, Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003717

So would you agree with me that at the appropriate time,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003718

magkakaroon ng amyenda sa budget,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003719

ng Department of Labor and Employment, Office of the Secretary,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003720

at ilagak natin sa iba pang functions ng Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003721

instead of putting it all together,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003722

more than half of the budget sa TUPAD?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003723

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003724

Alam po nyo, as I've mentioned earlier,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003725

ang Departamento ay lagi sumusunod sa batas.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003726

At ang Kongreso, na sinasabi nyo po, I will quote you,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003727

na pag kayo ay nilipat mo yung pondo,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003728

we will adhere to the wisdom of both houses,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003729

of both houses of Congress.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003730

That's all, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003731

Tama po yun.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003732

Kongreso ang naglalagak at nagde-desisyon sa budget.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003733

Pero kung titignan natin, kahit Kongreso ang naglalagak sa budget,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003734

makikita natin ang DOLE nagre-request pa rin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003735

ng mas malaki batay doon sa benchmark

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003736

ng nakaraang pondo sa TUPAD.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003737

Kaya pinapatibay lang nito ang pondo, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003738

na mas focused ang DOLE sa TUPAD kaysa sa ibang functions nito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003739

Sunod na po na tanong, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003740

Noong September 7, pinirmahan ang Wage Order No. 28.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003741

Sa proseso ng paglalabas ng Wage Order,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003742

dapat may public hearing.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003743

Dapat gawin ang nakasulat sa Rule 3, Section 3C of the Omnibus Guidelines on Minimum Wage,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

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Determination.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003745

And I quote,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003746

The chairperson shall make a preliminary statement

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003747

to apprise the attendees of the purposes of the public hearing,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003748

such as to thresh out petitions for wage increase filed,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003749

assess the socio-economic condition in the region,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003750

gather relevant data and information prior to the issuance of a wage order.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003751

So ibig sabihin, pag nagkaroon ng public consultation or hearing,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003752

dapat i-apprise ng chairperson ng Regional Wage Board

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003753

yung mga attendees kung saan, patungkol saan ang meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003754

Question, ginawa ba ito ng Regional Wage Board, Department of Labor and Employment?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003755

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes, patungkol po sa Wage Order No. 28.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003756

I have with me doon sa September 2 notice of meeting.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003757

At nakalagay po dito, I'd like to, if you will allow me, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003758

One, the venue will be at the Occupational Safety and Health Center.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003759

Yan po yung patawag. Tama po ba?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003760

Yes, that's correct.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003761

Okay po, sa agenda po tayo at doon particular sa tanong ko,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003762

inapprise ba ng Regional Director ng DOLE-NCR ang mga attendees tungkol saan ang meeting?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003763

That is a very simple question to the DOLE.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003764

Yes.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003765

Yes, okay po, Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003766

Pwede po bang ibaling ko ang inyong atensyon sa video na makikita natin ngayon?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003767

Pakiplay po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003768

Maraming salamat po. Pwede na pong itigil yan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003769

I am quoting directly the Department of Labor and Employment-NCR Regional Director.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003770

We questioned DOLE during that time tungkol saan ang meeting na ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003771

Ano ang sagot ng Regional Director, Department of Labor and Employment?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003772

Pinupulsuhan lang naman namin ang mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003773

There was no mention whatsoever about a wage order.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003774

Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003775

Madam Speaker and distinguished colleagues, let me first finish doon sa ating binabasa ko kanina, naputol po kasi.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003776

Mr. Sponsor, naiintindihan na po namin yan kasi yan po yung sasabihin doon sa inbitasyon.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003777

Tapos na po ako sa inbitasyon, nandoon na po ako sa appraisal ng DOLE-NCR Regional Director.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003778

Inapprise niya ba yung mga attendees sa public consultation?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003782

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003783

Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003784

I just got the information

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003785

that the answer is yes.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003786

And sinabi naman po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003787

ng ating Regional Director...

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003788

Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003789

I will cut you there

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003790

dahil naiintindihan ko po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003791

ang posisyon nyo.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003792

But the Regional Director of NCR

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003793

is lying through his teeth.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003794

We questioned you up front.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003795

Wala po siyang sinabi,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003796

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003797

Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003798

Ang binanggit po ay,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003799

nandun po ang kinatawang ito

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003800

and we have video proof.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003801

Pinupulsuhan lang naman namin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003802

ang mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003803

Nilabag kung anong nakasulat

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003804

sa omnibus rules

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003805

on minimum wage determination.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003806

Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003807

Dole is lying

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003808

here in this August Chamber.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003809

And I demand,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003810

we demand

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003811

the copy of the minutes

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003812

of the meeting

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003813

that was conducted that time

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003814

and we will challenge that.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003815

Especially coming from

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003816

the Regional Director

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003817

of Dole NCR.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003818

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003819

Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003820

hiningi po nyo

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003821

ng ating kasamahan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003822

yung ating minutes.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003823

During the September 2

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003824

public hearing.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003825

And we will oblige to that,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003826

Your Honor,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003827

Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003828

Thank you po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003829

Sige,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003830

kunwari na lang,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003831

kahit harap-harap

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003832

ang nagsisinungaling

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003833

sa bulwagang ito,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003834

nagawa,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003835

o sinunod yung Dole,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003836

sinunod ng Dole

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003837

yung sarili niyang guidelines.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003838

Ang proseso,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003839

dapat mag-meeting

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003840

ang National Wages

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003841

and Productivity Commission

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003842

at aprobahan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003843

ang bagong wage order.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003844

Question,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003845

nagkaroon ba

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003846

ng inyong

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003847

NWPC meeting?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003848

What date, sir?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003849

September?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003850

No, I'm asking

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003851

the Department of Labor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003852

and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003853

Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003854

nagkaroon ba ng meeting

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003855

ang National Wages

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003856

and Productivity Commission?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003857

Yes.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003858

When was the meeting held?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003859

Yes, yung nga po,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003860

September 10.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003861

September 10.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003862

Where?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003863

It's

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003864

Room 206,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003865

Manila Hotel.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003866

Ayan!

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003867

Let me direct your attention,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003868

Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003869

or Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003870

to this video.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003871

Thank you.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003872

Ang patawag po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003873

na meeting

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003874

ay dapat sa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003875

The Urum

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003876

Manila Hotel.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003877

Pumunta kami

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003878

1pm

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003879

para imbitahin

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003880

ng aming sarili

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003881

dahil ang pinag-uusapan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003882

ng National Wages

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003883

and Productivity Commission

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003884

ay tungkol sa sahod

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003885

ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003886

Pero wala kaming nadatnan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003887

ng mga tao

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003888

dun sa meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003889

At binabanggit po

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003890

ng sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003891

nagkaroon daw

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003892

ng meeting,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003893

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003894

sa ibang room.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003895

So, itinatago

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003896

ng Department of Labor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003897

and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003898

yung meeting na ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003899

Isa pang punto,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003900

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003901

nagsayang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003902

ang Department of Labor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003903

and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003904

ng pondo

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003905

ng mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003907

Para sa isang meeting

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003908

na hindi naman naganap

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003909

doon sa original

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003910

na dapat nitong pagganapan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003911

Tapos ang sasabihin natin,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003912

we have very limited

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003913

fiscal space.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003914

Naglulustay ng pondo

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003915

ang Department of Labor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003916

and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003917

Tinago sa mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003918

ang meeting na ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003919

Ang sasabihin nila,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003920

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003921

Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003922

confidential naman daw

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003923

ang meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003924

We cannot accept

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003925

that excuse.

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003926

Tinataguan

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003927

ng dole

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003928

ang mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003929

Can I respond,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003930

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003931

Distinguished Colleague?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003932

Yes,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003933

patukoy naman doon

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003934

sa meeting na sinabinabanggit

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003935

ng ating kasamahan.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003936

At ang tugon po natin dyan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003937

yes,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003938

it really happened.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003939

And two,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003940

para sa ating kaalaman

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003941

o kalinawan

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003942

ng ating mga kasamahan

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003943

at baka rin nanunood

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003944

sa ating mga

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003945

ngayong araw na ito,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003946

ay hindi po namin

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003947

tinatago

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003948

yung nasabing meeting.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003949

In fact,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003950

sabi ko nga,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003951

yung pag-transfer

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003952

ng room

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003953

ay because of

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003954

some disruptions.

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-003955

Disruption!

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003956

Yes,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003957

so,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003958

yung

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003959

September 10,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003960

2026

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003961

NWPC Review Meeting

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003962

legally valid

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003963

despite the shortened notice

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003964

to transfer from

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003965

that dao room

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003966

to room 260

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003967

of the Manero Hotel.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003968

Ngayon,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003969

sasabihin po,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003970

naririnig ko po kayo,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003971

distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003972

and

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003973

siguro mas maganda

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003974

ay para

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003975

hindi mo po sinasabi

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003976

na kami po ay

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003977

mag-transfer.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003978

May tinatago

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003979

ang Department of Labor

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003980

of Employment.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003981

Willing naman po tayo

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003982

na ilabas yung minutes

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003983

nung ating pinag-usapan

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003984

during that

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003985

said meeting.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003986

And,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003987

para sa kalaman po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003988

ng lahat,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003989

hindi po ito tinatago

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003990

o sinasabing

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003991

secret meeting.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003992

Bakit?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003993

Kasi present naman po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003994

yung ating labor groups

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003995

during those

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003996

meeting.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003997

And,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003998

makikita rin po natin yan

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-003999

dun sa ating minutes

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004000

ng ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004001

sinabing

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004002

September 10

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004003

meeting.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004004

That's all,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004005

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004006

distinguished colleague.

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004007

Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004008

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004009

hindi po katanggap-tanggap

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004010

ang excuse

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004011

ng Department of Labor

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004012

and Employment.

Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004013

Sabi nyo po,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004014

merong labor groups

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004015

na present

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004016

nandoon

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004017

ang buong National Wage

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004018

Coalition.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004019

Tinaguan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004020

ang Department of Labor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004021

and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004022

At ang punto dito,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004023

kung nagkaroon man

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004024

ng ibang meeting

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004025

doon sa same venue,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004026

nagsasayang kayo

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004027

ng pondo

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004028

para pagtaguan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004029

yung mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004030

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004031

ang binabanggit po nila

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004032

disruptor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004033

Ang mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004034

Nanggugulo daw

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004035

ang mga manggagawa,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004036

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004037

We are not disrupting anything.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004038

In fact,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004039

the Executive Director

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004040

of National Wages

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004041

and Productivity Commission

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004042

denied

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004043

to receive

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004044

our letter,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004045

our position paper.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004046

At ang lakas ng loob

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004047

ng Department of Labor

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004048

and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004049

na sabihin,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004050

may disruption

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004051

kaya lumipat sila

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004052

ng meeting.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004053

Simple lang ang punto,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004054

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004055

Itinatago ng Department

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004056

of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004057

yung pulong tungkol sa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004058

sahod ng mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004059

na sila-sila lang

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004060

ang nag-uusap.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004061

Last question,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004062

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004063

Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004064

Sabi sa Wage Order

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004065

number 28,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004066

Wage Order number 27

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004067

never took effect.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004068

In popular parlance,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004069

panaginip

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004070

o guni-guni lang daw

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004071

ang 85 pesos na dagdag-sahod.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004072

Chapter 3,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004073

Section 4 of the IRR,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004074

Paro of R.I.6727,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004075

any wage order

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004076

shall take effect

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004077

15 days after publication.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004078

July 9, na-publish.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004079

July 25, effective.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004080

At mismong si Sekretary Tolentino

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004081

ng Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004082

ang nag-announce

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004083

ng makasaysayan daw

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004084

na wage increase.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004085

Ngayon,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004086

isinusuko ba

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004087

ng Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004088

ang Wage Order No. 27

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004089

at pinapalitan na ito

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004090

ng Wage Order No.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004091

28?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004093

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004094

Distinguse Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004095

napakaganda po ng iyong katanungan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004096

Unang-una, kalinawan po,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004097

yung Wage Order No. 27, alam naman po natin at alam din ng ating distinguished colleague na

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004098

nagkaroon una ng TRO, pangalawa, nagkaroon ng injunction.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004099

Ang tinatanong niyo po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004100

kung dini-disregard na po namin ang Wage Order 28?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004101

The answer is no.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004102

Alam mo po, ginagalang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004103

ng Department

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004104

of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004105

ang ating legal proceedings,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004106

which we abide by it.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004107

But our official stand, para alam po ng ating mga kababayan at ng ating 1.1 million na manggagawa sa Metro Manila,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004108

hindi po binibitawan ng Department of Labor and Employment ang Wage Order 27.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004109

In fact, ang ating sekretary pa mismo ang nag-file sa ating mga korte na kung saan ang tindig o opisyal na tindig ng ating Departamento

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004110

together with the Office of the Solicitor General na dapat ito ay legal kasi walang jurisdiction ang korte

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004111

at dapat ito ay ipatupad ng ating mga korts at dapat sana ayaw makialam.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004112

So in fact, yung ating Wage Order 28 na 60 pesos, and ito po, importanteng-importante po ito, Madam Speaker. Bakit?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004113

Yung Wage Order 28, 60 pesos.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004114

Doon sa Wage Order 27,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004115

85 pesos.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004116

Pero, nakakalimutan banggitin doon lagi na sa Wage Order 27, sa taong 2026, ay it's also 60 pesos.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004117

Patunay lamang, patapusin mo ako, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004118

sapagkat sa pagkakataong yun, makikita natin na ang Departamento ay nagtatrabaho. Bakit?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004119

Simpleng-simple lang naman, kung kami walang malasakit o hindi ginagampanan ang aming tungkulin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004120

[unclear] sana,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004121

pinabayaan na lang namin yung Wage Order 27.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004122

Subalit hindi.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004123

Sa mandato na binigay ng Kongreso at Senado at ang taong bayan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004124

ang ating Wage Board, kumilos, nagpulong, nagpublic hearing,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004125

para sa gayo yung magkaroon ng economic relief o katumbas ng ating 60 pesos na dapat dagdag sa Wage Order number 27.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004126

So yung Wage Order number 28 is separate from Wage Order 27.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004127

Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, at least.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004128

Thank you.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004129

Madam Speaker, this is of paramount importance.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004130

At ito po ang pagkakataon, Madam Speaker, na maliwanagan ang milyong-milyong mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004131

So with the indulgence of our distinguished sponsor and Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004132

just a few more questions, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004133

Just one more question.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004134

Clarification on that matter.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004135

Binabanggit po ng Department of Labor and Employment na hindi isinusuko ang Wage Order 27,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004136

but in effect,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004137

sinusuko nila.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004138

Malinaw ang sinasabi.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004139

If there is no bond, there is no injunction.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004140

That is the rules of court.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004141

Walang legal impediment, sabi ng Office of the Secretary General,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004142

para ipatupad ang Wage Order 27.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004143

Binabanggit ng distinguished sponsor, ipatutupad ang Wage Order 28 bilang pamamaraan para ibigay sa mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004144

yung 60 pesos mula doon sa first tranche.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004145

Pero hindi po yun ang punto.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004146

Mula July 25, dahil walang hurisdiksyon ang Korte, kayo na po mismo ang nagsabi.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004147

Dapat matanggap na ng bawat isang minimum wage earner yung 60 pesos.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004148

Ibig sabihin, may kakulangan, may utang sa mga manggagawa na mahigit 3,000 piso.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004149

Ito po ang binabanggit natin, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004150

Hindi po maaaring isuplant ng Wage Order 28 yung Wage Order 27.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004151

So ang tanong dito, nilabag na nga ng DOLE.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004152

Ang sarili niyang guidelines na isang order lang ang ilalabas per year.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004153

Tapos sinasabi niya na gumawa siya ng pamamaraan para maibigay yung unang tranche, 60 pesos.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004154

Pero kung susumahin natin, 60 pesos lang ang dagdag-saud sa Wage Order 28.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004155

Ibig sabihin po ba, maglalabas ang DOLE ng panibagong Wage Order

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004156

para i-cover yung natitira mula doon sa Wage Order 27?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004157

Mas pinapagulo ng DOLE.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004158

ang kanyang buhay at ang kanyang sarili, pati ang mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004159

Naiintindihan ko po ang binabanggit ng ating butihing sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004160

Sasabihin nila na pamamaraan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004161

Pero hindi po makuha ng mga manggagawa ang tindig ng Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004162

na hindi nito bibitawan at isusuko ang Wage Order 27

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004163

at ipapatupad nito ang Wage Order 27 na malinaw na nakasulat sa batas.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004164

DOLE na lang po ang hindi naniniwala na kaya niyang ipatupad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004165

Ang Wage Order, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004166

Madam Speaker, I will end here.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004167

Ang aming paniniwala po, kung hindi kayang tindigan ng Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004168

ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004169

it is in our firm position that the Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004170

should not ask this August Chamber for any budget

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004171

dahil pinakikita at pinatutunayan lang nito sa mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004172

na ang DOLE ay manhid, inutil at bingi.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004173

Sa pakiramdam ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004174

Intindihin nyo kung saan nang gagaling ang mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004175

Para sa inyo, maliit na halaga lang ang 60 pesos.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004176

Pero sa bawat isang minimum wage earner na naririnig,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004177

ang ating diskusyon ngayon, malaking bagay ang 3,000 pisong inagaw

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004178

at pinagkait sa mga minimum wage earner.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004179

Yun po ang pinatutungkulan ng representasyong ito.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004180

And at the appropriate time,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004181

if the Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004182

will not change its position

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004183

at mananatili siya na matigas sa kanyang paninindigan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004184

na maglalabas ng bagong wage order sa halip na tindigan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004185

ang lumang wage order,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004186

this representation will make that motion

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004187

at the appropriate time

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004188

na ilagak na lang natin ang pondo ng Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004189

excluding TESDA.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004190

Ilagak na lang yan sa ibang mga functions

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004191

ng ating gobyerno.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004192

Hindi po napatunayan ng Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004193

na kaya niyang tindigan ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004194

Mr. Sponsor, maraming salamat po sa inyong pagbigyan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004195

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004196

pwede mo ba akong pagbigyan na sagutin yung huling statement mo?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004197

For the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004198

alam po ninyo, kanina binanggit ko po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004199

na ang posisyon ng Departamento o DOLE

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004200

ay we impose na tinitindigan po namin

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004201

ang wage order 27.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004202

Klaro po yun. It's on record na binanggit na po natin.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004203

And kahit tanongin mo po lahat dito,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004204

yung po ay on record.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004205

Kaya't hindi po namin pipwedeng tanggapin

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004206

with all due respect to my friend, Congressman Eli,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004207

sapagkat sabi ko nga rin kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004208

kung kami talaga ay walang malasakit sa ating mga manggagawa,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004209

alisana kami po ay hindi na po kumilos.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004210

Subalit,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004211

sabi ko nga kanina sa pangungunan ng ating bagong sekretary,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004212

we respect the legal proceedings.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004213

Yan, alam mo yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004214

Alam mo yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004215

Nakumbakit.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004216

Pero pinaninindigan po namin

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004217

na ang Wage Order 27, we cannot prejudge kung ano sasabihin ng ating hudikotura.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004218

Nire-respeto namin yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004219

Pero ang sabi namin nga noon ng Dolly at Office ng OSG,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004220

ay dapat ito ay implemented ng July 2025 o 2026,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004221

na dapat hindi nakikialam ang Korte.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004222

At yan naman po, alam mo rin po yan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004223

na klaro sa Article 126 ng Labor Code na yun ang ating sinasabi.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004224

Kaya sabi ko nga, Madam Speaker, for clarification,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004225

sa lahat na nakikinig ng ating mga gawa na 1.1 million sa NCR.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004226

Una, yung 60 pesos po ng Wage 27 at 28 ay identical.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004227

Pag sinabi mong nabawasan, hindi po.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004228

I would like to quote you, my friend, Ellie, simple math.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004229

60 minus 60 is the same value.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004230

Ngayon kung tatanungin mo, kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004231

na kung magre-release na naman ng Wage,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004232

ang Wage Order para ito ay sa susunod na mga hakbang.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004233

And I know na alam mo po yan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004234

para klaro po sa ating nakikinig,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004235

kasi marami po yan at malaki po yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004236

Yung 60 pesos na po yun, pag minultiply mo sa 26 days,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004237

that's 1,560.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004238

Yes, inaamin ng Dolly at ng Wage Board

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004239

na hindi lahat ng problema ay masusulusyonan doon sa 1,560.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004240

Pero malaking bagay ito.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004241

At ito po, uulitin ko po, for the record,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004242

ay tinitindigan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004243

Nang Departamento kasama ang OSG.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004244

Sabi ko nga po, once that document from the Judiciary,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004245

binanggit na lang ating mahal na Secretary Francis Torrentino,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004246

ipapatupad po natin ang mga Wage Orders

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004247

na ating pinanilindigan para sa ating mga manggagawa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004248

sa NCR o sa buong Pilipinas sa mga darating na panahon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004249

Sana ay kahit pa paano,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004250

nasagot namin yung itanong Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-004251

Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004252

Thank you very much, Congressman Eli San Fernando.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004253

Majority Leader?

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-004254

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-004255

the Honorable Antonio Tinio of the ACT Teachers Party-list

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-004256

to interpolate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004257

The Honorable Tinio is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004258

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004259

sa Distinguished Sponsor at sa Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004260

Ilang mga katanungan po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004261

Well, of course,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004262

una, dahil ahensya po ito ng Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004263

of course, ang tanong natin ay kaugnay sa sahod.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004264

At dapat meron po tayong graphic dyan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004265

So, ayan, of course.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004266

Of course, usapin ng minimum wage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004267

At alam natin, ang umiiral na patakaran at batas at patakaran ngayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004268

regional, ang setting ng minimum wage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004269

So, dito, sinasummarize, galing sa IBO nito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004270

sinasummarize yung mga regional wage levels per region.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004271

Of course, ang pinakamataas dyan ay sa NCR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004272

Actually, hindi nga updated yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004273

That particular graphic,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004274

ang mga rates ngayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004275

alam naman natin, for NCR,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004276

it's already 755.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004277

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004278

Pinakamataas ang sa NCR

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004279

at dito lumalabas na pinakabababa ang sa BARM.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004280

Sa BARM po, 436 pesos ang minimum wage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004281

At,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004282

kung,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004283

kung i-a-average,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004284

so, may range

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004285

from 755 to 436,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004286

average 514.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004287

Pero sa totoo lang, yung 514,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004288

mathematical, ano lang yan, no?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004289

Artifact, dahil wala namang region na ganyan ang minimum wage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004290

Pero just to give you an idea,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004291

nung range ng minimum wage sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004292

iba't-ibang lugar sa Pilipinas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004293

dahil nga regionalized.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004294

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004295

Pero,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004296

sa totoo lang, hindi ganyang kasimple

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004297

ang totoong lagay

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004298

ng sahod sa buong bansa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004299

Alam din yan ang mga kasamahan natin sa DOLE dahil

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004300

kung titignan natin ang bawat regyon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004301

iba-iba ang umiiral na patakaran at

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004302

ang task ng pagpapasweldo sa mga regyon.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004303

So, for example, actually,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004304

iba-iba pala.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004305

Actually, mas ngayon ko lang talaga na naintindihan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004306

Yung malawak na pagkakaiba ng mga sweldo,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004307

hindi lang sa pagitan ng iba't-ibang regyon,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004308

kung hindi sa loob mismo ng isang regyon,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004309

pwedeng nagkakaiba-iba po ito.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004310

For example, ayan, sa ating sponsor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004311

Sa Region 3 pala, hindi pala totoo na meron lang isang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004312

regional minimum wage rate dahil regionalized ang wage setting.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004313

Hindi pala totoo yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004314

Dahil, for example, sa Central Luzon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004315

eh ang patakaran dyan ay

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004316

sa Region 3,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004317

meron pong sweldo,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004318

para sa buong regyon.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004319

Tapos, merong particular na sweldo

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004320

para sa probinsya lang ng Aurora.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004321

Tama po ba yun?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004322

So, sa Region 3 po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004323

600 pesos ang rate,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004324

pero pagdating sa Aurora,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004325

ay lumalabas na,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004326

baka ano ba ito?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004327

Is it 515?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004328

Let me check.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004329

Nakakalito na rin po eh.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004330

O kasi iba-ibang nga.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004331

Can I answer that shortly?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004332

Yes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004333

No, actually in Aurora province,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004334

it's 560.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004335

For agricultural,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004336

for non-agricultural,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004337

and 545 for agricultural.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004338

515 naman for retail and services.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004339

Samantala,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004340

for the rest of the region,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004341

it's 600 pesos

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004342

for non-agriculture,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004343

570 for retail service,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004344

and,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004345

sorry, 590 pala

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004346

for retail slash service,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004347

and 560 for non-agriculture.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004348

Ganun po.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004349

Tama po ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004350

So, yung buong regyon,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004351

Region 3,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004352

lahat ng mga probinsya,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004353

may isang rate,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004354

pero nagkakaiba-iba

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004355

depende sa tawagin nating sektor.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004356

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004357

Agricultural, non-agricultural, retail service.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004358

Okay?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004359

Except for the province of Aurora.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004360

Tama po.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004361

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004362

Distinguished Colleague,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004363

tama po.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004364

And,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004365

can I just propound on that situation?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004366

Opo.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004367

Me being the representative

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004368

of the Loan District of Aurora,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004369

that was my previous question

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004370

to Dole,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004371

per se.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004372

Well, the fact of the matter is,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004373

Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004374

Distinguished Colleague,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004375

ang history po kasi

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004376

ng lalawigan ng Aurora,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004377

tatalun-talun kami ng regyon.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004378

And,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004379

unfortunately,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004380

as of this time,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004381

I don't know

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004382

if it's true or not,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004383

as of this time as we speak,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004384

hindi pa ganun karami yung enterprises

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004385

that compromises

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004386

sa buong lalawigan ng Aurora.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004387

But, it doesn't stop there.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004388

Ibig sabihin,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004389

we're making the necessary steps,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004390

o ginagawa natin,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004391

para maging aktibo

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004392

yung productivity

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004393

at the same time

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004394

yung ekonomiya ay lumago.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004395

That is my first basic question

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004396

also

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004397

to the Department,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004398

kasi nga po,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004399

kailangan balansahin ng Dole

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004400

kung ano yung kinakailangan minimum wage

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004401

sa bawat

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004402

probinsya,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004403

sa bawat regyon.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004404

And, in this case,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004405

sa buong Region 3,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004406

tama ka po,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004407

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004408

distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004409

na medyo mas mababa ng kaunti

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004410

sa aming lalawigan ng Aurora.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004411

Again, I would like to state

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004412

the reason,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004413

one,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004414

is because of the masyadong

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004415

kaunti pa po yung enterprises

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004416

sa amin.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004417

Secondly,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004418

minsan yung mga aming mga

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004419

industries

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004420

that are in there,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004421

like for example,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004422

is tourism,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004423

ay medyo seasonal pa po

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004424

yung aming pasok

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004425

ng aming mga negosyo

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004426

pertaining to the whole province

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004427

of Aurora.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004428

I hope that answers

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004429

the question,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004430

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004431

distinguished colleague.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004432

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004433

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004434

in other words,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004435

ang natuklasan ko po

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004436

nang sinurvey natin

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004437

yung mga

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004438

regional minimum wage rate,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004439

hindi pala pare-pare,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004440

hindi lang iisa

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004441

sa isang region nga.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004442

Of course,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004443

alam na natin yung

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004444

agricultural versus

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004445

non-agricultural.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004446

O kaya,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004447

sa ibang region

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004448

or sa maraming region,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004449

kasama rin yung

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004450

number of employees.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004451

Pagka 10 and below,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004452

may ibang rate.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004453

So,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004454

may ibang rate

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004455

above 10,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004456

mas malaki.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004457

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004458

Mas mataas.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004459

Isa pang example po

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004460

bukod sa region 3

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004461

ay yung region 7.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004462

Sa region 7 naman po,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004463

again,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004464

hindi iisa ang pasweldo.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004465

Lumikha ang region na ito

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004466

ng dalawang classification.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004467

Meron daw class A

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004468

ng mga bayan

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004469

at merong class B.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004470

Pag class A,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004471

mas mataas.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004472

Pag class B,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004473

mas mababa.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004474

Class A,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004475

yan yung

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004476

mga bayan

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004477

ng

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004478

cities of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004479

Carcar,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004480

Cebu,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004481

Danao,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004482

Lapu-Lapu,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004483

Mandaue,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004484

Naga,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004485

and Talisay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004486

As well as

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004487

the municipalities

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004488

of Compostela,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004489

Consolacion,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004490

Cordoba,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004491

Liloan,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004492

Minglanilla,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004493

and San Fernando.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004494

Together with

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004495

expanded Metro Cebu.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004496

So,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004497

pagkasama ka dyan

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004498

540 a day

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004499

ang minimum wage.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004500

Pero,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004501

pagka class B ka,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004502

meaning hindi ka kasama

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004503

dun sa nabanggit nating listahan,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004504

500 pesos lang po

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004505

ang

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004506

daily minimum wage.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004507

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004508

So, yun pa.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004509

Meron pang isa dyan,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004510

yung region na

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004511

sa Mindanao naman,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004512

that's

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004513

um,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004514

um,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004515

is it region,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004516

asan to?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004517

Uh,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004518

region,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004519

well,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004520

region,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004521

meron po sa Mindanao eh,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004522

hindi ko lang po makita ngayon,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004523

pasensya na.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004524

Okay.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004525

So, that's

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004526

uh,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004527

region 3.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004528

Uh,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004529

and then,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004530

uh,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004531

region 7.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004532

Let me go to the,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004533

uh,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004534

most,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004535

uh,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004536

pwede nating sabihin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004537

most,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004538

uh,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004539

complex and most notorious

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004540

case.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004541

Dito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004542

Calabarzon.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004543

So, sa Calabarzon po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004544

ay

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004545

ibat-ibang level po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004546

Actually,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004547

ang ginamit nila,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004548

uh,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004549

hindi, hindi lang regional

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004550

ang, ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004551

wage levels.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004552

Hindi rin provincial.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004553

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004554

May mga,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004555

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004556

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004557

organization na manggagawa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004558

sabihin na,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004559

abolish the provincial rate.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004560

Sa totoo lang,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004561

wala naman po talagang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004562

provincial rate,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004563

except maybe for the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004564

province of Aurora.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004565

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004566

Ang meron,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004567

particular sa Calabarzon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004568

city and municipal rate.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004569

At hindi lang yun,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004570

city,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004571

municipal,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004572

pati ecozone.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004573

Ecozone,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004574

may sariling

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004575

minimum wage rate.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004576

Ganun po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004577

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004578

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004579

granular,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004580

granular,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004581

yung pag-set

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004582

ng regional,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004583

ng minimum wage,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004584

ng regional wage board.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004585

So, sa kaso po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004586

ng Aurora,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004587

bukod dun sa mga

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004588

sektor,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004589

agricultural,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004590

non-agricultural,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004591

retail,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004592

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004593

kasama rin yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004594

employer size,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004595

ayan na nga, no?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004596

Kung whether 10 and above,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004597

10 and below,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004598

ay meron pa pong,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004599

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004600

extended metropolitan area.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004601

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004602

So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004603

area class.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004604

There are six area classes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004605

So, this is the extended metropolitan area.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004606

So, ito yung mga malalaking siyudad.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004607

Tapos, component cities.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004608

Yan, meron,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004609

another tier yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004610

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004611

And then, there's,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004612

tier all,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004613

all of its own,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004614

which is Rosario,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004615

in Cavite.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004616

Nag-iisa siya,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004617

na merong sariling rate.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004618

Tapos, yung first class municipalities,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004619

may sarili.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004620

Meron pa tinatawag na

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004621

reclassified first class

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004622

municipalities

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004623

per DOF department order number

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004624

zero four,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004625

zero seven four dash twenty twenty four

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004626

number twenty four.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004627

Very specific.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004628

Tapos, meron pang second,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004629

to fifth class municipalities.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004630

Iba-iba po yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004631

So, let us give

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004632

a more concrete

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004633

example of this.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004634

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004635

For example po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004636

sa probinsya ng,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004637

let's say,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004638

Laguna.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004639

Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004640

Sa Laguna po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004641

ang mga pinaka,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004642

malaking mataas na sweldo,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004643

ay,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004644

ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004645

yung extended metropolitan area.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004646

That would cover

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004647

the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004648

cities of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004649

Binyan

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004650

and San Pedro

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004651

plus

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004652

the Laguna Technopark.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004653

600 pesos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004654

Component cities,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004655

600 pesos din.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004656

Yan ang mga bayan ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004657

Cabuyao,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004658

Calamba,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004659

Santa Rosa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004660

San Pablo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004661

Ah,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004662

so, yun po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004663

600 pesos sila.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004664

Pag napunta ka naman sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004665

first class municipalities,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004666

550 pesos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004667

So kasama po dyan Los

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004668

Baños at Santa Cruz, Laguna.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004669

Kalevel nito yung mga reclassified

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004670

first class municipalities, Alaminos,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004671

Bayi, Calawan, Nagkarlan, Pila,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004672

Siniloan. Tapos at 525 pesos second to

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004673

fifth class municipalities. Ito yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004674

pinakamababa, Kabinti, Fami, Kalayaan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004675

Lili, Louisiana, Lumban, Mabitak,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004676

Magdalena, Mahayhay, Paite, Pagsanhan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004677

Pakil, Pangil, Rizal, Santa Maria,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004678

Victoria. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004679

Pabasahin ko pa po, isa pa po. Just to

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004680

illustrate, no? And to make a point.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004681

Yung sa Rizal. Sa Rizal po, pinakamataas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004682

600 pesos din, extended metropolitan area,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004683

mga bayan ng kainta, antipol,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004684

Palo, Taytay. Tapos, first class

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004685

municipalities and reclassified first

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004686

class municipalities, 550. So, 50 peso

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004687

difference. Ang ono, Binangonan, Pililya,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004688

Rodriguez, San Mateo, Tanay. Tapos,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004689

Baras, Morong, at Teresa. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004690

Samantala, second to fifth class

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004691

municipalities, Cardona at Halahala. Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004692

Okay. No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004693

So, ano ang punto po rito? Meron pang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004694

extreme example. Sabi nga natin, sa Calabarzon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004695

ang wage level setting, hindi lang po regional

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004696

level, hindi city or municipality level lang,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004697

pati eco zone level. Meron. No? Kaya sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004698

kaso po ng bayan ng Malbar sa Batangas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004699

merong rate na 600 para sa eco zone sa Malbar.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004700

Parang lima. Yun ang pangalan. Okay?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004701

Lima ba? Okay. Tapos, pag lumabas ka sa gate,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004702

nasa bayan ka, nasa labas ka na ng eco zone,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004703

yung bayan mismo ng Malbar, 550 lang po ang kanilang rate.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004704

So, may 50 peso difference. No? Lumabas ka lang sa gate.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004705

Nung eco zone. Okay? No? Kasi yung nabanggit ko kanina sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004706

Rizal. I go back to Rizal kasi ito pamilyar ako. Madalas ako

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004707

dumadaan sa mga bayan na yan eh. No? Along the Manila East

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004708

Road. Mula Antipolo hanggang Teresa, Morong, Tanay,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004709

Baras, Pililya. Okay. Magkakatabi lang po yung bayan na

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004710

yan. No? Tapos yung Cardona, sa Bandaron,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004711

Okay? Magkakatabi lang yung bayan na yan. Pero, dahil sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004712

classification na ito, sa Antipolo, 600. Sa Morong o Teresa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004713

550. Pero sa Cardona, yung pinakamababa. 500, ka na ba

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004714

yun? 525. Okay? So, magkakatabi lang po yan. Sa ibang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004715

kaso, pwede mo lang lakarin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004716

Ay nasa kabilang bayan ka na. No? So, ano po ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004717

justification? Sa ganitong tipo ng wage setting. Samantala, ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004718

presyo ng bigas, ang presyo ng gasolina, ang pamasahe, ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004719

presyo ng kuryente, ang presyo ng edukasyon, pagpapaaral sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004720

iyong mga anak, di naman nagbabago yan. Mula sa bayan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004721

ang Cardona, at sa katabi nitong bayan ng Morong, hindi po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004722

nagbabago. Pero magkaiba po, ang minimum wage rate. Anong

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004723

kahibangan na umabot na sa ganito ang pag set ng minimum wage

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004724

lalong lano na extreme version sa kalabarson? Samantala, may

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004725

mga example po, ng regions, na isa lang talagang rate. In fact,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004726

In fact, for example, CAR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004727

Sa CAR po, Cordillera Administrative Region,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004728

tinanggal nila kahit na yung distinction between agricultural and non-agricultural.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004729

Iisa na lang po ang rate niyan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004730

So, there are several regions na ganun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004731

CAR, Region 2, Region 4B, Region 4, Region 5, and Region 13.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004732

So, isa lang po ang rate.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004733

So, yan po ang nais nating i-highlight dito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004734

Bakit ganyan ang wage setting at hindi ba pinapakita na nito

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004735

na wala talagang loyka at walang saisay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004736

At pinakapahirap sa manggagawa, sa mamamayang Pilipino,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004737

na depende kung nasan ka,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004738

ay mas pababa ang sweldo kahit pareho naman.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004739

Walang measurable and objective na kaibahan sa cost of living.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004740

Yan po ang problema.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004741

Hindi po ba ganun?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004742

At hindi ba panahon na para ma-abolish ang sistema nito ng regional wage setting?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004743

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, I get your point.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004744

Distinguished colleague, na pag talon mo sa isang lugar na isang bayan ay iba na yung rate.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004745

And you gave perfect examples of those in which.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004746

But the thing is, the mandate which was given by Congress sa Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004747

ay kami naman po ay sumusunod sa alituntunin sa pag-set ng minimum wage.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004748

One, yung binigit niyo po kanina ay patungo dun sa we have to also take in consideration

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004749

sa dun sa ating income classes.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004750

ng Department of Finance.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004751

And the most important one is yung productivity.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004752

Iba-iba po kasi yung kada bayan, kada reyon, kada probinsya.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004753

And patukol naman po dun sa huling statement po ninyo,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004754

na kung napapanahon na po ba pag-abolish dun sa mga different rates.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004755

Again, the official stand of Department of Labor and Employment patungo dun sa ating minimum wage setting

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004756

or the reach.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004757

RA 6727 or Wage Rationalization Act ay we submit to the wisdom ng ating Kongreso at Senado.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004758

Once halimbawang nakapagpasa po ng isang bill or maging ganap na isang batas,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004759

the Department will fully implement kung sakasakaling ito ay maging isang ganap na batas,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004760

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004761

Well, thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004762

Ang dinidiin po natin talaga, yung patakalan na mismo,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004763

ang pinapakita natin dito na yung pinapatupad na patakalan ng DOLE ng kanilang mga regional wage board

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004764

ay, siyempre, alinsunod sa batas, pero pinapakita dito na yung batas ay hindi na naglilingkod sa interes ng mga manggagawang Pilipino.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004765

Maaring pabor sa mga kapitalista. Of course, matutuwa sila.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004766

Lumipad lang sila ng bayan. Mas mababa na ang kanilang pasweldo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004767

Pero para sa mga mamayang nandun,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004768

wala namang pinag-iba ang presyo ng bigas ng pagkain sa kabilang bayan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004769

So, again, dinidiin natin panahon na para i-abolish ito at ibalik yung national minimum wage.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004770

Marami pa sana akong datos dyan, kaya lang, pinitingnan ko ang oras, pupunta na ako sa susunod na topic natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004771

So, ang punto natin dito, kapos na kapos na po, at hindi na naglilingkod sa interes at kapakanan ng manggagawa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004772

ang patakarang pinatutupad na ito.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004773

At ang dole, kaugnay sa regionalized, at hindi nga lang regionalized, no,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004774

municipalized, localized wage setting. Extreme case being Calabarzon.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004775

Okay. So, kailangang ibalik ang national minimum wage.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004776

Okay. Ngayon, punta tayo sa usapin ng tupad.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004777

Ayan, nabuksan ni, ng naunang interpellator natin, si Representative Eli San Fernando.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004778

At hindi katakataka, dahil nga, kung titignan mo ang budget ng dole, ang pinakamalaking component talaga nito ay tupad.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004779

So, pinring up ko na po ito nung budget briefing, but let me revisit the data in plenary.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004780

So, kung pwede po, maipakita yung ating presentation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004781

So, ayan nga, tinrack nga natin.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004782

Yung 10 years ng tupad, no, at 2016 yan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004783

Nung 2016, ang level po ng tupad ay nasa, nasa, tupad.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004784

Three, hindi makita.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004785

Okay. Is that three?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004786

Okay. Is that three?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004787

3.2 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004788

3.2 billion pesos po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004789

That was 2016.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004790

And then, 2024, 3.2 billion naging 29.5 billion.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004791

No? So, ilang beses na lumaki ito.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004792

Uhm.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004793

More than, almost 10 times, no, ang paglaki.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004794

Yan yung pinakamalaking allocation ng tupad.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004795

It consists, at that time, it consisted of almost 82% of the total dole budget.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004796

For 2026, sa kasalukuyang taon, 75% ng budget ng dole, 22 billion pesos ay nasa tupad.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004797

Sa proposed budget nyo, proposed budget nyo 2027, ayan po, 2027 ay, ah, magkano ang hinihingi?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004798

14.2 billion o 68% of total.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004799

Ayan po ang nasa NEP.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004800

Pero natatandaan ko rin po sa budget briefing, and maybe it can be stated here on the record,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004801

humihingi pa po ng dagdad na tupad.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004802

Ang dole.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004803

Pwede po bang ma, ah, banggit for the record kung magkano yung hinihingi ng dole na dagdag sa tupad?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004804

Ah, on record, ah, Madam Speaker Distinguished Colleague, tama po yung sinabi nyo doon sa record na 14.1 billion.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004805

But for clarity, yung out of that is 3 billion is, ah, GIP, which is the Government Internship Program.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004806

Okay.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004807

So kung sa inyong tinatanong na kung magkano yung, ah, hinihingi, I mentioned that earlier doon sa ating opening statement,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004808

na kung saan doon sa nakaraang ah, budget ah, hearing sa committee level, I, I think it was 10.1 billion.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004809

10.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004810

10.25 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004811

10.4.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004812

10.25.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004813

Okay, so.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004814

10.25.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004815

So, 14 billion ang nasa NEP, pero gusto niyo po po dagdaga ng mahigit 10 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004816

So, gusto niyong gawing 24.8 billion, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004817

In other words, halos doblehin yung kasulukuyang hinihingi ng pondo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004818

So, ah, yun na nga.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004819

Ah, dinidiinan na natin dito at kinikwestiyon na natin, bakit ang pinakamalaking bahagi ng budget ng dole ay tupad?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004820

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004821

Ironically, ah.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004822

Ah, yun nga sabi natin, ano na ba ang dole ngayon?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004823

Ano ba ang pangunahing mandato ng dole?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004824

Ah, labor and employment?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004825

Pagprotekta sa karapatan at kagalingan ng manggagawa?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004826

O ayuda agency na ba ang dole ngayon?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004827

Kasi kung pagbabatayan natin ang budget, ayuda agency na.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004828

No?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004829

At,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004830

ngayon pa,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004831

hindi na nagkasya,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004832

dun sa 14 billion na hinihingi para sa tupad, gusto pang dagdagan ng 10 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004833

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004834

Ah, so,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004835

paninindigan pa rin ba ng dole ang hinihingi pa nilang dagdag na 10 billion?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004836

Samantala,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004837

katulad yan ang nasabi, napakaraming mga pangangailangan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004838

Yung nabanggit na,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004839

dagdag na labor inspectors, new plantilla positions,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004840

for labor inspectors.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004841

Bakit hindi?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004842

Ilang bagong labor inspectors ang pwedeng madagdagan dun sa 10 billion na hinihingi ninyo?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004843

Hindi po ba?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004844

So, paninindigan pa po ba na dagdagan pa sa halip na bawasan ang hinihingi tupad ng dole for 2027?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004845

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004846

one for the record,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004847

pagsilabing po po kasing ayuda is dole out.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004848

Ang tupad together with GIP and other the programs of dole.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004849

Yung tupad naman po ay pinagtatrabahuhan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004850

And if you will allow me, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004851

nagkaroon lang kasi because of the pandemic, yung parang stigma doon sa ating tupad.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004852

Pero I'll give you a prime example na isa lamang.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004853

I'll give you an example.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004854

In Caloocan, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004855

and this is very malapit sa akin to because gustong gusto ko rin gawin ito sa aking distrito.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004856

Bakit?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004857

Yung kanyang under ng tupad, alam naman po natin doon sa reports na na-receive natin sa EDCOM,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004858

na maraming estudyante...

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004859

from kinder to grade 10

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004860

ang medyo nahuhuli

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004861

pagdating sa pagbasa

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004862

at ang ating resulta

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004863

ay nahihiyan na po silang pumasok

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004864

sa kanilang mga eskwelahan.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004865

Ano po ang ginawa ng ating

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004866

Department of Labor Employment

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004867

doon sa Kaloocan?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004868

Simpleng-simple lamang.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004869

One,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004870

nag-hire po ang departamento

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004871

ng mga college graduates

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004872

or let passers

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004873

na hindi pa ganap

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004874

na hired, na teachers

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004875

na magtuturo, na magbasa

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004876

sa ating mga kabataan.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004877

They were employed

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004878

na ating isandaang

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004879

nagtuturo

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004880

sa ating mga estudyante

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004881

sa Kaloocan na kung saan

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004882

staggered po 10 days

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004883

kasi ang normal

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004884

and standard na

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004885

implementation ng tupad.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004886

Doon sa programang ating binabanggit po

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004887

ito ay ginawang

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004888

30 days na allowable

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004889

lamang po sa mga ibang programa.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004890

In short, Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004891

Distinguished Colleague,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004892

yung ginagawa po ng tupad

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004893

na stigma noon ay ibang-iba

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004894

noon at ngayon.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004895

Kasi po, hindi lamang ito

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004896

magagamit sa ating mga

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004897

streets, but bagkos

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004898

ay matuturuan na matuto pa

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004899

yung ating mga estudyante

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004900

lalong-lalong na

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004901

sa ating growing years

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004902

ng mga ating bata.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004903

And you can double check that,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004904

Madam Speaker and

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004905

Distinguished Colleague,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004906

na sabi ko nga po,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004907

sa mga darating pampanahon

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004908

magkakaroon through the leadership

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004909

of Secretary Francis Tolentino,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004910

sabi ko nga po,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004911

noon, last year,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004912

ginawa ko rin po,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004913

sabi ko nga,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004914

yung paglinis o pagko-coordination

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004915

sa local government unit

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004916

patungo sa MRF.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004917

Yan lang po ay isang

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004918

ehemplo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004919

Okay.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004920

I'm sorry.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004921

I was interrupted, Madam.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004922

Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004923

Pero to wrap it up,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004924

ang dahilan po

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004925

na pag

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004926

ask

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004927

ng karagdagang pondo

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004928

is not for

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004929

tupad, na basic

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004930

tupad only.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004931

Sabi ko nga po,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004932

ito ay pinalawak na po natin over time

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004933

na sa palagay ko, sa aking palagay,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004934

ay hindi lamang makakatulong

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004935

doon sa ating ine-empleyo

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004936

na magkakaroon ng sweldo, income,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004937

yung ating mga,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004938

in that, ginawa ko pong example,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004939

yung ating mga tutors,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004940

at that same time,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004941

ay nagkaroon pa ng magandang benepisyo

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004942

doon sa ating mga estudyanting

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004943

na turuan po niya.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004944

At ito lang po ay nagpapatunay lamang,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004945

ito lang po ay sa isang city,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004946

at that same time,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004947

pwede rin pong implement

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004948

sa mga bawat distrito

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004949

o sa bawat regyon

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004950

sa ating bansang Pilipinas.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-004951

That's all, Madam Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004952

Well,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004953

maganda lang po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004954

ating mga tutors,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004955

at this point, dahil pinag-uusapan natin

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004956

ng TUPAD, mabalikan po natin ang kasaysayan.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004957

Kailan po ba nagsimula

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004958

yung programang TUPAD?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004959

Nababanggit ng sponsor,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004960

nagsimula ito noong panahon ng pandemic.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004961

Actually, hindi po totoo.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004962

At bahagi po ako ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004963

Kongreso, at nasaksihan ko

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004964

kung kailan nilikha

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004965

yung programang TUPAD.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004966

Kailan po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004967

Una pong makikita

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004968

natin ang TUPAD

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004969

sa general

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004970

Appropriations Act

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004971

ng 2014.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004972

2014 po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004973

Okay?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004974

Kung balikan nyo

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004975

yung General Appropriations Act

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004976

ng 2013,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004977

wala pa pong TUPAD.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004978

Wala pa po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004979

Tignan nyo yung, I mean, hindi ko na

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004980

mapaflash, ganyan ko lang binuksan muli ito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004981

Pero tignan nyo po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004982

sa special provisions

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004983

ng Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004984

dun po,

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004985

kinapangalanan

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004986

yung mga programa, no?

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004987

Special provision number one,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004988

verification fees. Special provision number two,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004989

appropriations for programs

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004990

and specific activities.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004991

Tapos binabanggit na yung mga programa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004992

walang TUPAD.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004993

2013 po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004994

2014,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004995

General Appropriations Act,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004996

eto na po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004997

Special provision number one,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004998

verification fees, and number two,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004999

government internship program,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005000

tama kayo magkaugnayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005001

government internship program,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005002

and tulong panghanap buhay

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005003

sa ating disadvantaged workers

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005004

TUPAD project.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005005

Yan po ang unang-unang pagkakataon

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005006

na lumitaw sa budget.

Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005007

The amount

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005008

of 1,022,000,000 pesos

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005009

appropriated herein

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005010

under conduct of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005011

training, livelihood, and enterprise

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005012

development and other capacity

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005013

building programs for

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005014

students, youths, and

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005015

disabled workers, and for

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005016

the rural workers, including

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005017

programs for self-organization

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005018

for plantation workers,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005019

shall be used as follows.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005020

Number one, for the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005021

payment of stipend of beneficiaries

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005022

equivalent to—

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005022-split-2

Representative Tinio, that his time has expired.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005022-split-3

Yes, tatapusin na lang po natin. For the payment of stipend of beneficiaries equivalent to 75%

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005023

of the existing minimum wage

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005024

in the area during the

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005025

six-month office field training

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005026

in the government under the GIP.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005027

So, six-month stipend po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005028

para sa GIP.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005029

Yung number two, for the payment

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005030

of wages of displaced workers

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005031

resulting from weather

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005032

and regulatory

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005033

shocks,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005034

weather, kalamidad, regulatory

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005035

shocks, layoff,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005036

no, because of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005037

neoliberal economic

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005038

policies, and

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005039

internal conflict. So, sinama po, pati

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005040

internal conflict

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005041

during their short-term employment

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005042

under the TUPAD project.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005043

Okay. So, yun po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005044

ang una. At binigyan po ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005045

budget ng 1.022 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005046

And from then on,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005047

from then on, lumaki

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005048

ng lumaki, at yun na nga,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005049

sinabi natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005050

2016, 600

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005051

billion,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005052

20,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005053

20,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005054

20,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005056

well, this year, it's something like

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005057

24 billion. Ganon, ano?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005058

So, lumobo nang lumobo na ito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005059

Okay. Bakit po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005060

2014? Ilan po ang gusto

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005061

nating ma-put on the record?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005062

Why 2014? The budget

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005063

for 2014, of course, was approved

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005064

in the last quarter

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005065

of

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005066

2013.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005067

Diba? Ano nangyari

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005068

nung last quarter of 2013?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005069

Specifically, November 2013.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005070

Lumabas po ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005071

Belgica versus Ochoa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005072

At ano yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005073

Belgica versus Ochoa?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005074

That is the landmark

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005075

Supreme Court ruling that declared

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005076

the PDAF unconstitutional.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005077

So, kaya po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005078

sa totoo lang,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005079

yung TUPAD nilikha

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005080

bilang pang-salo

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005081

sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005082

soft

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005083

portion

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005086

Di ba? Yung PDAF noon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005087

merong hard

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005088

for infrastructure

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005089

and soft

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005090

for

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005091

ayuda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005092

Ganon.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005093

Dati,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005094

ang menu niyan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005095

mainly for education,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005096

scholarships,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005097

health assistance,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005098

and

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005099

wala pa po actually,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005100

walang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005101

for employment.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005102

No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005103

So, nilikha po ang tupad

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005104

para sa General Appropriations Act

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005105

ng 2014

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005106

para ilagay doon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005107

yung dating pondo

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005108

ng mga congressman

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005109

na kanilang soft pork barrel

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005110

or PDAF.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005111

So, yun po ang origin yan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005112

Kaya alam naman natin, hanggang ngayon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005113

ganon pa rin ang nature

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005114

ng tupad.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005115

Yes,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005116

major, it is the biggest

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005117

program

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005118

of the Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005119

pero sa totoo lang,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005120

alam naman natin, yung tupad,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005121

it's patronage-based.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005122

Yung mga benepisyaryo niyan,

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005123

representative,

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005124

that his time has expired.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005125

Ang mga benepisyaryo niyan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005126

ay yung listahan

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005127

na binibigay ng mga congressman.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005128

Hindi po ba, ganon pa rin naman

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005129

ang nature ng tupad hanggang ngayon?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005130

Kahit po, tapos na po yung oras

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005131

ng ating distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005132

The sponsor may or may not respond.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005133

I will answer that,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005134

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005135

Alam po nyo,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005136

sa timeline po ninyong

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005137

binigay, tama po, 2014,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005138

na lumitaw yan sa ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005139

General Appropriations Act.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005140

It started out, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005141

na ito po ay proyekto lamang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005142

2009.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005143

And as I said earlier,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005144

based on your statement and your graph,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005145

na tama, unang lumabas ito sa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005146

2014 na

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005147

General Appropriations Act.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005148

Now, during that timeline,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005149

yung sinasabi nyo po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005150

kasing menu, I cannot

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005151

answer to that.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005152

Because, hindi ko po alam kung saan yung nakita yan o what so ever.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005153

But, dole, pat-dole,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005154

on our part, kasi

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005155

ang proseso po namin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005156

pag may tupad is, yes,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005157

kaya po lumalobo yung

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005158

Office of the Secretary, pero ito po ay

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005159

idadownload naman po namin sa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005160

ating mga regional offices.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005161

And based sa aming requirements, procedure,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005162

at dadaan din po sa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005163

peso, para siguraduhin natin

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005164

validated yung mga nandyan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005165

At

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005166

in our case,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005167

sabi ko nga po, dumadaan sa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005168

peso na laging

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005169

kaakibat o kaalakbay

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005170

ng ating Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005171

That's all, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005172

Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa sagot.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005173

At bilang pagwakas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005174

dinidihin po natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005175

ang punto natin sa interpelasyon ito,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005176

ipakita yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005177

pagkainutin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005178

magpapahirap na

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005179

ng patakaran ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005180

regionalized wage setting,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005181

na sa totoo lang ay

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005182

municipalized and localized pa nga.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005183

Nagpapahirap na,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005184

malinaw na nagpapahirap

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005185

sa mga gagawang Pilipino

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005186

sa halip na ipinagtatanggol

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005187

ang karapatan niya sa nakabubuhay

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005188

na sahod. So,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005189

naka-address po ito sa Kongreso,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005190

dapat ipasa na

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005191

ay balik ang National

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005192

Legislated Wage Increase, at kailangan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005193

nakabata ito sa Family Living Wage.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005194

Ngayon, numaabot sa 1,300 a day.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005195

Pangalawa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005196

panahon na po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005197

para ibalik

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005198

ang DOLE sa kanyang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005199

pangunahing mandato.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005200

Hindi siya isang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005201

ayuda agency,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005202

kung hindi ahensya na dapat

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005203

nakatutok sa pagbantay

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005204

at pagprotekta sa

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005205

karapatan ng manggagawang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005206

Pilipino. Kaya, itutulak po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005207

natin na dapat

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005208

tanggalin na,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005209

bawasan ng malaki, kundi man tanggalin

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005210

ang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005211

napakalaking budget sa tupad,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005212

ilipat sa core functions

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005213

ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005214

core functions and programs

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005215

ng DOLE, at yung

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005216

mas malaking bahagi ay

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005217

dalhin sa ibang mga

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005218

pangangailangan na kinaltasan ngayon

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005219

para sa edukasyon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005220

kalusugan, at iba pang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005221

social services. Hanggang doon na lamang po,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005222

Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005223

Maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005224

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-005225

Madam Speaker, I move that we

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-005226

recognize Representative Sara Jane

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-005227

Elago of Gabriela Women's Party

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero

asr-005228

List for her interpolation.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005229

Representative Sara Jane Elago of

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005230

Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005231

recognized for her interpolation.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005232

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005233

iskong magsimula sa manipastasyon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005234

bilang pagsuporta sa paninindigan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005235

ng mga nauna nating kasamahan,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005236

lalong-lalo na pagdating sa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005237

panawagan ng mga manggagawa,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005238

ng mga kababaihan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005239

na itaas na ang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005240

sahod. Hindi

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005241

dapat gawin na pamalit sa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005242

Wage Order Number NCR-27

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005243

ang Wage Order Number NCR-28

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005244

na magiging

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005245

efektibo lamang sa Setiembre

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005246

26. Ang dagdag

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005247

sahod mula Wage Order 27

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005248

na dapat 85 peso

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005249

sa dalawang tranches

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005250

na hindi natanggap ng mga manggagawa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005251

simula Julyo 2026

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005252

ay dagdag sana sa kanilang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005253

pang-araw-araw na gastusin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005254

sa gitna ng walang humpay na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005255

pagtaas ng presyo ng mga bilihin.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005256

Lalong nalantad ang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005257

bulok na sistemang pasahod

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005258

sa ilalim ng Regional

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005259

Wage Boards. Ito rin ang dahilan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005260

kung bakit ang mga manggagawa ay

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005261

patuloy na nakakulong

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005262

sa napakababang sahod na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005263

hindi sapat para sa kanilang mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005264

pamilya at hindi rin sapat para

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005265

sa isang pamumuhay

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005266

na may dignidad. Dapat nang buwagin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005267

ang mga Regional Wage Boards at

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005268

itakda ang isang pambansang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005269

minimum wage na nakabubuhay

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005270

sa buong bansa. Ngayon,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005271

kaugnay nito, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005272

ang Pilipinas ngayon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005273

ay nasa ilalim pa rin ng State of

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005274

National Energy Emergency

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005275

sa visa ng Executive Order

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005276

Number 110. At isa sa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005277

mga puna ng ating representasyon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005278

pagdating dito, hindi kasama

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005279

ang Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005280

dun sa mga pangunahin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005281

ng mga agencies

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005282

na dapat ay kasama nito

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005283

na mag-aral kung ano ba ang epekto sa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005284

industriya, sa kabuhayan, sa trabaho.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005285

At natanong po natin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005286

kung nakasama na ba ang DOLE

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005287

sa mga meetings

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005288

ng Uplift Committee

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005289

at napag-uusapan ba ngayon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005290

dahil

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005291

meron na namang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005292

pangalawa na malaking

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005293

oil price hike

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005294

ngayong linggo.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005295

Mataas na naman ang presyo

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005296

ng diesel, gasolina, LPG,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005297

kerosene. At maski ang Kongreso

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005298

na ito na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005299

nagpasa ng pagkakaroon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005300

ng emergency powers

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005301

para sa Presidente na suspendihin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005302

ang excise taxes,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005303

sa ngayon po wala na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005304

na in effect. Dahil

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005305

nag-expire na yung para

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005306

sa suspension ng excise

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005307

taxes sa LPG at kerosene

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005308

after 3 months, simula nung April

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005309

na masuspend ito. Sa ngayon, may

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005310

balita bang DOLE? Nakasama na ba kayo

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005311

dito sa mga meetings

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005312

ng Uplift? At ano yung mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005313

recommendations ninyo para

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005314

masuportahan yung impact sa jobs ngayong taon at sa susunod na taon ng pagtaas ng presyo ng langis?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005315

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, tungkol po dun sa inyong katanungan na kung kasama po ang Department of Labor and Employment dun sa ating uplift na kung saan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005316

the answer is yes, tatlong beses na pong nakasama sa pagpupulong ang ating Department of Labor and Employment and tinitignan ko po yung oras, hindi po bukas, mamaya po meron na pong pagpupulong at dadalo po muli ang ating Departamento ng Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005317

Sa pagpupulong na ito, Madam Speaker, nagkaroon na ng pagtaas, wage order para sa NCR, meron bang plano para sa labas naman ng NCR sa mga susunod na panahon?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005318

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, your question is kung may kasunod pang wage order?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005318-split-2

Outside NCR.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005318-split-3

Outside NCR? Yes.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005318-split-4

Akin na yung

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005319

Ito po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ang mga rehyong pinakamalapit na anibersaaryo ng kanilang kasulukoy ang wage orders ay Regions 7, 4A, and 3.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005320

At region 3. At babasahin ko po yung anibersaary dates para at least klaro po yung ating kung kailan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005321

Yung anibersaary date po ng 7 is October 4, 2026. Region 4A is October 5 of 2026. And region 3 is October 30 of 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005322

Ngayon, ang scheduled date of consultations, it varies.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005323

At siguro po yung ating date of publication.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005324

At siguro po yung ating date of publication notice of public hearings. Sa ating Region 7 was August 5, 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005325

Region 4A was August 7 of 2026. And region 3 was September 19 of 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005326

And the date of public hearings, again, Region 7 is August 24 and 25 of 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005327

Also, September 3 and 4 of the year, again, 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005328

Patungo naman po sa Region 4A, again, August 25, 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005329

And 15 and 17 of September, 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005330

Last region, Region 3 po, October 5, 14, 20, and 21 of 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005331

November 5, 9, and 11 of 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005332

So, yung tatlong regiyon po, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, ang mga nakatakdang mga wage orders sa mga susunod.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005333

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maganda po marinig na may mga updates.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005334

Pero, muli, sa ngayon talaga, sa panahon ngayon, hindi lang bari-bari ang kasunod.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005335

Pagtataas yung kinakailangan natin. Ang Kongreso mismo ang dapat kumilos para sa pagkakaroon ng Legislated Wage Increase.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005336

Bukod pa dyan, ay lakasan din ang boses tungkol sa pagtatanggal ng mga patong-patong na buwis na pinapataw ngayon sa ating mga kababayan,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005337

sa mga batayang pangangailangan sa pagkain, sa kuryente, sa langis.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005338

Talaga pong napakabigat niyan para sa mga ordinaryong mga manggagawa, sa mga ordinaryong Pilipino.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005339

Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, sa...

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005340

Report na nasubmit sa atin ng DOLE, mula 2022 hanggang 2025,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005341

nasa 50.05 milyon ang nakolekta na penalties mula sa mga establishments na lumabag sa OSH standards at naideposito na sa Bureau of Treasury.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005342

Ayon sa report, hindi ito naa-access ng DOLE para sa implementation ng OSH law.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005343

Maari bang malaman bakit ganito yung nangyayari?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005344

Madam Speaker, malaking pondo ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005345

Pero yung dapat sana, ayon sa batas, na nagagamit natin para sa occupational safety and health training and education

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005346

at iba pang mga programa pang kalusugan na may kinalaman din sa occupational safety,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005347

ay wala pa pong naka-airmark na pondo na tiyak na magagamit para sa mahal.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005348

Ano talagang mga programang ito?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005349

Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005350

And yung nakolekta po is 15,569,000.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005351

And sadly, kailangan po ito ng...

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005352

Kaya po ito hindi nagagamit ang inyong katanungan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005353

It's because sa ating General Appropriations Act, kailangan po ng special provisions sa JA

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005354

para ito ay magamit ng ating OSH,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005355

para ito ay magamit po natin sa mga susunod na...

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005356

mag-utilize ng ating mga pondo.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005357

So, timingly po, hindi pa naman po tapos yung ating...

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005358

We're just in the middle of the budget deliberations.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005359

Siguro po, through your representation, ay siguraduhin natin kasi lagi pong nakakaligtaan, unfortunately.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005360

So ngayon, sana po, with you, stating it for the record,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005361

na sana po na magkaroon na ng special provision dito para ito ay magamit na ng aming departamento.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005362

Madam Speaker, ang mungkahi ng doling ay magdagdag nga ng special provision.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005363

Sa ating General Appropriations Bill, para maisama na ang pagbibigay ng authority

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005364

sa DOLE na gamitin ang 10% ng mga nakolekta ng mga fines

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005365

para sa operasyon ng Occupational Safety and Health Initiatives

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005366

kabilang na ang training, education, at health programs.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005367

Maari po bang malaman kung bakit ang proposal ng DOLE ay paggamit lamang ng 10%?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005368

Hindi ba dapat mas mataas pa yung kinakailangan natin?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005369

Para matiyak na mas malawak yung maabot ng mga mahalagang programa na ito?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005370

Meron din ba kayong insights kung saan po nagagamit yung mga nakolekta naman itong mga nakaraang taon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005371

mula ng mapalakas natin ang OSLO sa ating bansa?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005372

Madam Speaker, well initially, tama po kayo na yung 10% lamang yung hinihingi ng DOLE.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005373

But for the record, pwede naman pong taas.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005374

But the reason of being which na bakit ito po ay 10% lamang is because

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005375

one, it's for capacity building muna and may sariling pondo rin yung ibang ahensya tulad ng DA, DOTR, DOH.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005376

So that's the reason.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005377

But for the record, as per Department of Labor Employment, pwede naman po itong taasan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005378

Mahalagay ito, Madam Speaker, kasi bagamat may mga kanya-kanyang pondo din yung ibat-ibang mga NGAs natin,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005379

siyempre kailangan din natin yung malawak na partisipasyon ng pribadong sektor pagdating sa pagsunod sa OSLO.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005380

Kaya bawat piso na mailalaan natin sa programa para dun sa prevention ng kahit anong violations ng OSH standards ay napakalaga.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005381

Dahil hindi dapat tayo tumutugon lang kapag may nangyari na aksidente na hindi na dapat nangyayari

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005382

sa ating mga lugar ng hanap buhay.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005383

Hanap buhay nga, di ba? Hindi hanap aksidente o hindi hanap patay sa pinakamalalang pangyayari.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005384

Kaya dapat mas mataas yung nilalaan natin na pagtulak sa mga preventive efforts.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005385

Ngayon naman, at ang bagay po na yan, ang paglalaan at pagdadagdag ng ganitong special provision

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005386

ay isusulong ng representasyon na ito na dapat suportahan din ng ating distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005387

Hindi po tayo masasapat lang sa 10%. Kung pwedeng mas mataas pa, dapat gawin nating suportahan yan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005388

Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, nais kong magtanong tungkol sa mekanismo ng DOLE para matugunan ang problema ng underemployment sa ating bansa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005389

Sa pinakahuling datos ng PSA, nito lang huling linggo na lumabas, pumalo na sa 12.1% ngayong June 2026.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005390

Meron po bang particular na programa para dito ang DOLE?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005391

Kasi ito po ay nilapit din natin kahapon sa DepDev na hindi pa sila naaalarma na pagkalaki-laki po ng underemployed sa ating bansa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005392

Kasama dito, Madam Speaker, yung hindi umaabot sa 40 hours kada linggo ang kanilang oras ng trabaho.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005393

Kaya po mas maliit yung kanilang kinikita.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005394

Nandito rin po, Madam Speaker, yung mga bukod sa kanilang trabaho, naghahanap pa ng ibang mga dagdag, pang racket, para lang makadagdag sa kanila pong income.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005395

Meron ba tayong particular programs and initiatives na may kinalaman sa pagtugon sa issue na ito?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005396

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ako po inipapasalamat at tinanong mo yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005397

Sa pagkat, yun sa ating underemployment, alam naman po natin ang depenisyon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005398

Nating kailangan ulitin na yung ating mga kababayan na naginais pa na magkaroon ng dagdagkita.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005399

At sa kasalukuyan, ito po ay nasa 12.9 percent.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005400

O pag tinanslate mo yan ay 6.33 million.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005401

At ang inyong katanungan po ay, nakuha ng mga programa ng aming departamento na ito ay para tugunan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005402

Alam nyo po, tupad is one of the key factors.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005403

Na nilalagay po natin yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005404

Kanina po, tinatanong po tayo ng ating mga kasamahan kung bakit natin na ganong kalaki yung ating pondo is because,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005405

alam mo, pag pumunta ka po sa isang lugar na probinsya, ito po ay napakalaking tulong.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005406

At yun po ay ang isa sa mga katugunan natin doon sa underemployment.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005407

Let's face the reality, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, minsan talaga sa mga probinsya ay kailangan-kailangan ito.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005408

Pero hindi lang po doon nagtatapos yung ating pagtulong sa pertaining sa underemployment.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005409

Alam mo, studies have shown that,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005410

doon sa ating labor force na kalalabas lamang,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005411

na importanteng-importante rin yung ating mga ibang programa ng DOLE tulad ng Job Start,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005412

tulad ng ating pagugunayan sa peso, job fairs,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005413

na para sa kung saan ay makita natin yung ating mga needs ng ating mga employers.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005414

Maaring kasi, based on study na rin also, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005415

na kalimitan ay nagmi-mismatch, nagkakaroon ng mismatch doon sa ating mga aplikante.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005416

At the same time, doon papasok yung aming mga binanggit,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005417

na apat na programa ng Departamento para at least kahit papano makatugunan yung mga pangangailangan ng ating mga gagawa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005418

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005419

Ngunit tulad na rin ang nasabi ng ating Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005420

may ambag, may relief, pero temporary lang.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005421

At ang panawagan ng ating mga kababayan,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005422

mas maraming job opportunities na regular, sigurado para sa kanila.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005423

Kaya dapat makita rin natin yung ganyang pagtingin, yung ganyang prinsipyo,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005424

sa kung paano natin binibigyan ng pondo yung ating mga programa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005425

Hindi lang para sa mga short-term temporary relief,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005426

pero para doon sa mga pangmatagalan na paglikha ng trabaho dito sa bansa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005427

Ngayon naman, tungkol po sa social amelioration program,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005428

ang galing po sa ulat na binigay ng DOLE mula 2024 hanggang 2025,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005429

na nakapagbigay ng ₱48.91 million sa 3,764 mill workers.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005430

At ₱93.56 million sa 437,667 field workers.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005431

Kung ikukompute ito, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005432

nasa P213 pesos lang, P213.76 pesos lang ang matatanggap ng field workers,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005433

samantalang nasa P12,993 per mill workers.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005434

Ang tanong ko dito,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005435

tama po ba na sa ngayon ang binibigay natin kada mill workers?

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005436

Ang binibigay sa mill workers ay nasa mga ₱2,000 to ₱3,000,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005437

samantalang sa field workers, nasa P200 pesos lang po yung binibigay sa ngayon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005439

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005440

my distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005441

one-minute suspension.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005442

Session is suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005447

Session is resumed.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005448

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Ah tama po doon sa ating average na binanggit ng ating distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005449

And I'd like to point out, sa determination of the cash bonus. Nakalagay po rito that amount of cash bonus being distributed to field workers amounts to a maximum of 10,000, while the amount received by mill

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005450

workers amounting to a maximum of 15,000

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005451

distributed at the end of

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005452

the year, Madam Speaker Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005453

Maraming salamat, Madam

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005454

Speaker. Ngunit, sa panahon po

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005455

ngayon, abatay po sa ating mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005456

konsultasyon sa mga mill workers

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005457

at mga field workers sa sugar

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005458

industry, meron ho nakakatanggap

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005459

ng singliit ng 200

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005460

to 300 pesos. Hindi po

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005461

makatarungan yan dahil sa pang-araw-araw

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005462

pa lang nagastusin ng mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005463

manggagawang bukid. Sa tubuhan,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005464

lalong-lalo na ngayon, ata,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005465

panahon ng Tiempo Muerto,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005466

wala po talagang kinikita

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005467

yung ating mga kababayan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005468

Kaya sinusuportahan ang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005469

kinatawan na ito, ang panawagan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005470

ng mga manggagawang bukid

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005471

sa tubuhan na dapat gawing

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005472

5,000 pesos ang minimum

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005473

ng cash bonus sa ilalim

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005474

ng social amelioration

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005475

program. Ata, susuportahan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005476

po ba ng DOLE ang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005477

pagtitiyak na meron po tayong

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005478

minimum pagdating dito sa cash

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005479

bonus fund? Ang malaking issue kasi

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005480

dito, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005481

yung 200 pesos,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005482

300 pesos, hindi pa po yan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005483

kasya para dun sa pamasahe

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005484

pa lang ng mga kukuha

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005485

ng mga workers. Kaya nga po,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005486

nilapit din sa atin ng mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005487

stakeholders na may mga panahon na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005488

hindi na lang kinukuha

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005489

yung ganitong bonus fund

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005490

kasi sa pamasahe pa lang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005491

ay lugi na sila. Kaya,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005492

sa tingin ko, dapat ang tindig dito

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005493

ng DOLE, all out, na support,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005494

dapat may minimum at

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005495

makuha kung ano yung dapat

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005496

na pangangailangan na tulong

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005497

sa ating sugar industry workers

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005498

na kung wala po ang mga manggagawa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005499

na ito na siyang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005500

bumubuhay sa ating mga tubuhan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005501

ay hindi natin maasahan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005502

yung pag-unlad din ng ganitong

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005503

industriya.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005504

Madam Chair,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005505

distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005506

ang doon sa inyong

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005507

statement, minimum,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005508

kasi yan po ay nakapaloob sa ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005509

batas. But then again, through your

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005510

representation, once again, pag ito po ay

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005511

naging na-amended,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005512

ito po ay, sabi ko nga po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005513

as earlier statement kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005514

once it's enacted in TULO,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005515

susunod naman ang aming departamento.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005516

Ilang panghuli,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005517

Madam Speaker, tungkol

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005518

sa single entry approach.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005519

Nais kong malaman kung

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005520

kapag nakapag-settle ba

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005521

through SENA,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005522

nakakaroon ba ng record ang employer

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005523

sa DOLE? At sa mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005524

pagkakataon na lawyer

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005525

ang duly authorized representative

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005526

ng employer,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005527

nakakaroon ba ng mabilis na settlement?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005529

Doon sa inyong katanungan sa ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005530

single entry approach.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005531

I would like to read

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005532

to you some facts pertaining

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005533

sa ating settlement

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005534

rate, which sa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005535

Dole Regional Office ay 84.60%

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005536

at dun sa total sa NLRC

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005537

is 84.07%.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005538

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005539

Ang katanungan ko rin ho ay

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005540

may mga pagkakataon ba na lawyer

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005541

yung duly authorized representative

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005542

at pinapayagan ba natin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005543

halimbawa na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005544

workers representative

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005545

ang humaharap

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005546

as duly authorized

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005547

representative. So, both po

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005548

lawyer or

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005549

pwede rin naman na representative mismo

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005550

ng mga workers. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005551

this thing is surely, yes,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005552

pwede po. Yes.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005553

At na-raise ko po ito

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005554

dahil marami din pong naglapit sa ating

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005555

representasyon na mahirap

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005556

din na lawyers yung

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005557

kaharap ng isang manggagawa sa isang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005558

settlement. Hindi po talaga ito

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005559

nagiging pantay sa maraming pagkakataon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005560

at sa ating karanasan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005561

ng mga nakakausap nating

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005562

mga manggagawa. Mas binabarat

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005563

ang mga manggagawa kapag

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005564

lawyer ang kaharap at napakarabi pa pong

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005565

legal jargons at principles

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005566

ang ibinabato sa manggagawa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005567

para lang mapanindigan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005568

yung pagbabarat sa kanilang

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005569

sahod. Ngayon naman po

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005570

may mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005571

pagkakataon din na

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005572

pinapalabas ang workers representative.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005573

Pwede ba na magkaroon kayo

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005574

ng mekanismo na hindi ito

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005575

mangyayari? Kapag may representative

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005576

po ang worker

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005577

na nagsastand as their

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005578

duly authorized representative,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005579

dapat matiyak natin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005580

na hindi sila mapapalabas

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005581

kapag nagkakaroon po ng

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005582

settlement sa ganitong mga kaso.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005583

Yes, it's part of the process

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005584

but Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005585

sasagutin ko rin po yung

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005586

una mong binanggit.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005587

I don't know but kung naalala po ninyo

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005588

doon sa ating binanggit sa ating opening statement,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005589

isa yan sa ating mga inisiyatibo

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005590

ng ating bagong sekretary.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005591

Tama, intimidated yung ating mga

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005592

manggagawa pag ito ay abogado ang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005593

karap po nila. And binanggit din po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005594

natin kanina that ang ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005595

public attorney's office ay loaded

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005596

na with the existing cases.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005597

Ngayon, patukoy naman doon dito sa ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005598

inisiyatib ng ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005599

bagong sekretary, Sekretary Francis Tulitino,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005600

kanina po binanggit po natin

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005601

yung labor attorney's office.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005602

Ito po ay through ng kanyang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005603

department order na kung saan

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005604

naghihinga rin po siya ng karagdagan. And I'm sure

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005605

that is very, very

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005606

important. One, para ito po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005607

ay magkaroon ng free legal assistance

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005608

ang ating mga

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005609

manggagawa. So, yan po ay isa sa

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005610

mga inisiyatibo ng ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005611

departamento together with the

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005612

ating bagong sekretary,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005613

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005614

May karanasan din po ang mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005615

mga manggagawa na sa pagpafal

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005616

pa lang sa DOLE. Mismong mga

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005617

employees na daw po yung

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005618

nagdi-discourage tungkol sa pagpafal

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005619

dahil wala na daw pag-asa yung kaso.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005620

So, sa ganito pong mga cases

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005621

na naiparating sa atin, binubuo

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005622

din po namin yung report kasi po

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005623

sa paninindigan po ng aming

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005624

representasyon, dapat hindi

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005625

maging dagdag na burokrasya

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005626

ang sena at hindi

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005627

ito dapat maging pamamaraan

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005628

ng employer para lalong baratin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005629

ang mga manggagawa at baka

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005630

kayang tignan ng DOLE.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005631

Pwede po ba kayong mag-commit? I-review

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005632

natin na kumaari

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005633

hindi na gawing mandatory

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005634

ang single entry approach.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005635

Ma'am, yung sa ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005636

sinasabi niyo po na

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005637

first yung sa point niyo na

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005638

yung mismo employer nagsasabi,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005639

siguro po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005640

with the statement of the Department of Labor Employment

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005641

na pwede po tayo magtulong patungo doon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005642

Kaya nga lang yun, sa pangalawang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005643

inisiyatibo po niyo, doon sa single entry

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005644

approach, ito po ay mandatory.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005645

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005646

Maraming salamat

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005647

Madam Speaker, dapat natin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005648

ma-review, hindi na gawing mandatory

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005649

at sa representasyon ng

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005650

Gabriela Women's Party, sinusuportahan namin

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005651

mas mataas na pondo para sa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005652

pag-hire ng labor inspectors

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005653

hindi lang po sa hiring, sa training,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005654

sa capacity building at pagtitiyak ng

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005655

kanilang independence. Maraming salamat

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005656

Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-005657

Distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005658

Maraming salamat. Distinguished colleague.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005659

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005660

Madam Speaker, I move that

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005661

we recognize the Honorable Representative

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005662

Perci Cendaña

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005663

of Akbayan Party-list

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005664

to interpolate on the proposed

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005665

Madam Speaker, I withdraw my manifestation.

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005666

I move that

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005667

we recognize Representative

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005668

Renee Louise Co of

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005669

Kabataan Party-list to interpellate

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Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura

asr-005670

on the proposed budget of the DOLE.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005671

Representative Renee Louise Co

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005672

of Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005673

to interpellate.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005674

Thank you Madam Speaker and good morning

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005675

to our distinguished sponsor

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005676

and to the DOLE.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005677

My first

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005678

line of questioning, if the gentleman

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005679

would be amenable to answer

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005680

certain questions

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005681

regarding the budget of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005682

the Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005683

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005684

gladly, Madam.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005685

Thank you.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005686

Thank you Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005687

The first line of questioning would be in relation

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005688

to actually the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005689

report submitted

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005690

by DOLE which

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005691

this representation appreciates

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005692

in relation to our questioning

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005693

of the Department

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005694

in the budget briefing held

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005695

a few weeks ago.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005696

And dito po, tinanong natin

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005697

kung ano po yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005698

compliance of establishments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005699

within ecozones

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005700

ng mga

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005701

occupational

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005702

safety and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005703

health regulations

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005704

na may noted

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005705

na improvement

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005706

of compliance rates

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005707

pero ninonote po natin

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005708

dito na marami pa rin

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005709

pong mga regyon ay may below

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005710

100% compliance.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005711

Meaning po sa inspections

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005712

na ginagawa ng DOLE

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005713

kung meron pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005714

labor standard violations

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005715

or

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005716

safety and health hazard violations

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005717

may mga regyon

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005718

na hindi po 100% yung compliance.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005719

May I

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005720

clarify Madam Speaker, good sponsor

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005721

may minimum threshold bang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005722

pinaghahawakan ang DOLE regarding

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005723

dito? Ano po ang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005724

pinapataw na parusa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005725

sa mga patuloy na non-compliant

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005726

kung meron man?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005727

Thank you.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005728

Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005729

One, for the first question would be ito kung may threshold.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005730

Wala po, kailangan po, dapat sana

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005731

pertaining sa OSHA ay 100%.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005732

Pangalawa, dun sa ating penalties here thereafter

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005733

dun sa may mga existing rules and regulations naman po tayo,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005734

dun po sa mga penalties, they could go up to as much as penalties na 100,000 pesos, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005735

May records po ba tayo na sunod-sunod na taon ay hindi compliant itong mga establishments within ecozones?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005736

May number po ba tayo?

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005737

May mga pangalan po ba tayo ng mga establishments na ganito?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005738

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung doon sa tanong po na kung meron kaming

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005740

datos patungo na kung may

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005741

violations na sunod-sunod na taon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005742

Unfortunately, ma'am, we will gather

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005743

that data, but if you gladly

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005744

allow us, as soon as possible, we will

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005745

submit to the

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005746

our distinguished colleague para po ito

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005747

ay matugunan at makita po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005748

ninyo ng personal.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005749

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, intay na lang po natin

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005750

yung report na yun. Sana po ay maisumite

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005751

ng DOLE sa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005752

representasyon na ito. Sana po bago

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005753

matapos ang linggo. Dalala ko

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005754

din po, nung nakaraang taon,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005755

nag-furnish din ng copy

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005756

yung DOLE ng

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005757

similar

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005758

report ng sino pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005759

nakaka-record

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005760

ng mga OSHS

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005761

violations. So, nakaka-dismaya

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005762

na may meron pa rin.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005763

Alam naman natin hindi

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005764

perfecto, pero nonetheless,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005765

ay kung meron pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005766

mga sunod-sunod

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005767

na violators, dapat po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005768

ay ma-actionan po yun

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005769

ng DOLE. Sige, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005770

good sponsor, babalikan ko lang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005771

po yung mga iilang tanong ko noong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005772

budget briefing

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005773

na kung saan sinabi po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005774

ng DOLE na wala po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005775

silang purview sa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005776

pagtukoy o kaya

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005777

pagdikta ng mga incentives

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005778

na natatanggap ng locators

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005779

or establishments

Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005780

na nasa loob ng mga

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005781

economic zones. Ang ayon

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005782

po dito sa report na isinumite

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ng DOLE, ito po ay

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nasa jurisdiction,

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of the respective investment promotion

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agencies, gaya ng PEZA,

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in coordination with

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Fiscal Incentives Review Board

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or ng Bureau of Internal Revenue

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when applicable.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005791

Siguro, gusto ko lang pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005792

i-clarify, ano po ba yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005793

basis ng ganitong set-up

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005794

kung meron man?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005795

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

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before I answer your question,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005797

dun po sa unang hinihingi niyo mga datos,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005798

we commit,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005799

Huwebes na po pala ngayon, I was supposed to say Thursday,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005800

we will give it within the week, so that's

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005801

Friday. To the

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005802

answer, kasi nga po, it's a

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005803

special law po yun eh, so

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005804

ang DOLE, ang role lang po ng DOLE is limited to that.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005805

So yung pag, yung kanyang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005806

nabanggit niyo po kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

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yung mga ahensyang yun lamang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005808

may tamang jurisdiction,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005809

ito mo po dito, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005810

Ninonote po kasi natin, Madam

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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Speaker, good sponsor, na

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the Omnibus Investments

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Code of 1987

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nakalaan dito

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asr-005815

that the Board of Investments can

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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for violations of

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the laws

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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for the protection of labor

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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ay maaaring magkansela

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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ng mga incentives

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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na ini-enjoy ng mga enterprises.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005822

At the same time,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005823

na mandato po ng

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005824

Department of Labor and Employment, according

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005825

to not only its website,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005826

pero in laws

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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na it

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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promotes gainful employment opportunities

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asr-005829

and human resource development,

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asr-005830

protect and promote workers' rights

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asr-005831

and welfare, and promote and

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maintain industrial peace.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005833

So, wala po bang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005834

role yung DOLE sa

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pag-ensure

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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na that the Board of Investments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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gets the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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appropriate information

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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to say na kung may

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005840

violation of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005841

the laws.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005842

for the protection of labor, ay maaari nilang i-cancel yung mga incentives ng specific locators or ng establishments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005843

dahil ito po yung nakalagay sa Omnibus Investments Code.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005844

Ano pong role ng DOLE sa pag-implementa ng Board of Investments ng ganitong klaseng kapangyarihan nila?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005845

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Tama po yung binanggit po ninyo.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005846

At I would like to quote sa unang binanggit po ninyo.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005847

That ang role po ng Departamento ay ipakita sa ating mga ibang kasama na ahensya na ito po ang findings ng ating Departamento.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005848

So bari, yung sinasabi po nyo, kung anong role pertaining doon sa kung pwedeng i-cancela,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005849

ay hindi na po namin sakop ang kapangyarihan ito sapagkat kami po, based on the data that we have,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005850

and I think we have furnished our distinguished colleague na kumpleto naman po yung aming inspections pertaining to that

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005851

but to the matter of...

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005852

So na kami po ay magkakancela, we don't have that jurisdiction, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005853

And I'd like to add, na sisiguraduhin ko po sa inyo, na tayo po ay ginagampanan natin yung ating mga inspections sa lahat ng ating mga ecozones during that time.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005854

So to clarify, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano po yung role ng DOLE vis-a-vis yung Board of Investments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005855

or yung Fiscal Incentives Review Board?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005856

Kung may findings sila na may violation sa loss on protecting labor na nangyari?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005857

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, sabi ko nga po, pag-check ng DOLE, ang role ng DOLE, if they're in compliance,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005858

kung may violations, obligadong ilalagay din po natin yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005859

And we have the records, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, if needed and necessary.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005860

Does the DOLE submit these findings of violations to the Board of Investments?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005861

How often do they submit it? How often do they meet, etc.?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005862

Paano po nila nakakommunicate yung gano'ng klaseng violations?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005863

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, we can submit to a report.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005864

But gusto ko lang po dagdagan, but in terms of pag-OSH law na po, ito po ay pwedeng patawan na agad ng Departamento.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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Sa violation ng OSH, for example.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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Sa OSH po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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Gusto natin ma-insure na may...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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...accountability sa ibang ahensya.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005869

Lalo na po, nasa mandato naman po ng ahensya na yun na may accountability kung may violation sa protection,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005870

loss of protection of labor, meron po ba itong report na isinusumite, for example,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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sa mga dapat pong may action on incentives, for example,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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para hindi lang po titigil tayo sa accountability on OSH law.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005873

And other forms of accountability when applicable.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005874

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, yes, sabi ko nga po, ginagawa ng ating Departamento yung role po natin na we furnish everybody a copy.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005875

And for the appreciation of our distinguished colleague, pwede naman po tayong mag-submit sa inyong tanggapan ng lahat ng aming mga ginawang patungkol po dito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005876

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kung maisusumite po dito sa representasyon na ito,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005877

kopya ng report, kung paano po tinitiyak ng DOLE na yung modes of accountability niya,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005878

it does not stop at what it can do as the extent of powers it has.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005879

Pero pagbibigay ng impormasyon and coordination with other agencies na maaaring magbigay yung DOLE ng impormasyon sa kanila,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005880

at madetalye po sana.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005881

Sa isang report.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005882

Kasi the DOLE is in the best opportunity, in the best position na magbigay ng impormasyon na ito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005883

Halos wala naman na pong ibang makakapagbigay nito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005884

At kung kaya pong aktuhan ng Board of Investments ayon po sa impormasyon ng DOLE,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005885

dapat lang po, we'd like not to see a scenario where there are locators, establishments that enjoy incentives

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005886

but are repeated violators of laws protecting labor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005887

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, maaasahan po ba natin yung report na ito?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005888

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes. That's a definite yes.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005889

And if our Distinguished Colleague, can I make a plea?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005890

Kanina po, binanggit ko po na isasubmit po namin ng biyernes.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005891

Pagtingin ko po doon sa ating monitor ay Huwebes na po pala ngayon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005892

If it would be allowable, pagpinayagan po tayo ng ating Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005893

kasi biyernes na po ay technically bukas na po, kung papayagan niyo po kami,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005894

isasubmit po namin ang lahat ng dokumentong hiningi po ninyo by Monday of next week

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005895

if it's papayagan po ng ating Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005896

Yes po, okay naman po yung Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005897

Maraming salamat po, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005898

My last line of questioning, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is in relation po sa tinanong din po natin sa TESDA,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005899

Project UNLAD, kung saan ito ay partnership ng DICT sa pag-ensure na yung AI upskilling

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005900

ay hindi lang po ito nagagawa ng pro forma,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005901

pero substantively nakakapagpataas ng kalidad ng ating mga BPO workers

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005902

and other such workers na nangailangan ng ganitong skillset.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005903

Nakita po natin sa report that around 18,500 na manggagawa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005904

ang nakakatanggap ng upskilling under Project UNLAD.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005905

Pero ang tanong po natin sa bantanang layoffs sa gitna ng paggamit ng AI sa mga BPO companies,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005906

sapat ba na around that number ang nakakatanggap ng upskilling under Project UNLAD

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005907

upang masiguro ang kanilang tuloy-tuloy na trabaho?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005908

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005909

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005910

before I directly answer your question, let me read first the status of the AI upskilling.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005911

One, TESDA is calling up its AI skills programs in line with the National AI Upskilling Roadmap

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005912

through different delivery modalities such as institution-based delivery,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005913

enterprise-based training and online courses.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005914

TESDA has already allocated 53,442 scholarship slots for AI and digital-related skills

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005915

as of August 20, 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005916

The context would be that TESDA recognizes the need to adopt our workforce with AI.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005917

Kailangan, kailangan na po yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005918

Estimates vary but different analysis place the number of jobs that will be affected by AI

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005919

around 25 to 35 percent of jobs.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005920

That's roughly around 12 million.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005921

And the National AI Upskilling Roadmap segmentizes the labor force into three clusters

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asr-005922

that represent three A's in AI.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005923

One is AI awareness, AI adoption,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005924

and AI advancement.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005925

This entails different courses from foundational competencies and AI literacy

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005926

to more specialized and advanced courses that will equip Filipinos with skills

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005927

not only to consume but also to build AI systems.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005928

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005929

So Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005930

ano po yung sagot natin dun sa tanong nasapat po ba ang may 18,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005931

or rather ang namention may some 50,000?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005932

53,000.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005933

53,442.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005934

Madam, doon sa pagbanggit ko nga po kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005935

siguro I forgot to mention TESDA.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005936

That's the reason na ang unchallenged po sa atin ngayon,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005937

ang ating hinihingi ng ating ekonomiya.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005938

Isang role ng DOLE and TESDA,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005939

TESDA to be specific,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005940

na i-reskill, i-upskill,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005941

and kung sa tanong mo kung sapat na yung binanggit mong 18,000,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005942

or in fact, based sa 53,442,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005943

sa official stance po ng TESDA,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005944

ito po ay nabawasan nga yung pondo for 2027,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005945

compared to the GAA of 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005946

So ang tamang sagot po dyan ay kulang pa po yung ating mga programa,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005947

and sa ating opening statement po kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005948

ay binanggit po natin na kung maaari itong madagdagan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005949

ay welcome na welcome po yan sa aming departamento.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005950

As a last question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005951

or for now,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005952

hinihingi po ng kopya sana ang representasyon na ito ng Roadmap,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005953

na I assume na medyo fresh or hot off the press pa siya,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005954

pero other than that,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005955

ano po ba yung mga indicators natin na successful yung upskilling?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005956

Yung ilan pong siguro inaasahan natin,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005957

yung promotion sa trabaho,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005958

increased salary,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005959

siguro mas mabilis na turnout, etc.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005960

Ano po ba ang mga indicators na ito?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005961

Magandang tanong, to justify na kami po ay ang TESDA po ay humihingi po ng karagdagang budget for that.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005962

One, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005963

I'd like to state for the record,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005964

na lahat po nang dumaan sa tech-voc path,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005965

ay based on the results na ginagawa po natin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005966

ay meron pong 83.4% employability.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005967

Ibig sabihin, pag ikaw po ay dumaan sa skills training sa TESDA,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005968

ay mataas, o napakataas,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005969

ng chance for employability.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005970

And also, it goes to show sa ating certification program,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005971

na if it is applicable to or acceptable to the distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005972

ay marami po na tayo nagawa dyan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005973

and we can definitely furnish you

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005974

of all that necessary reports pertaining to certification,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005975

and what I've said, the 83.4% employability

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005976

ng mga dumadaan sa tech-voc path po natin sa ating bansang Pilipinas.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005977

Hintayin po natin yung ulat na yun.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005978

Siguro sana po sa lunes ay maisabay siya doon sa submissions as well ng DOLE.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005979

Ang huli na lang po nating manifestation ay up until now,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005980

mataas ang anxiety ng mga tao tungkol sa layoffs na dulot ng AI.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005981

At kung we ride the trend of upskilling,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005982

ang naishare po so far ay hindi rin po nakikita sa indicators na may job security dito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005983

So, nonetheless, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005984

we'd like to register na ito yung anxiety at ito yung hirap na pinakaharap ng ating mga BPO workers.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005985

At beyond upskilling, no, gusto natin tuloy-tuloy na may sagot doon sa tanong na paano ba i-ensure

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005986

na may disenteng trabaho, na may nakabubuhay na sahod ang mga manggagawang Pilipino.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-005987

Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po. Thank you, good sponsor.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005988

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Thank you, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-005989

And yes, we will submit on Monday together with the DOLE and TESDA reports, Distinguished Colleague. Maraming salamat po.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005990

Majority Leader?

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Floor Leader

asr-005991

Madam Speaker, I'd like to acknowledge our last interpellator of the day,

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Floor Leader

asr-005992

the Honorable Perci Cendaña from the Akbayan Party-list.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-005993

Representative Perci Cendaña of Akbayan Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-005994

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Magandang umaga po. Ginoong sponsor at sa buong DOLE family.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-005995

At siyempre kasama dyan, special mention, ang paborito nating TESDA.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-005996

At ngayon po, pinag-uusapan natin ang budget ng Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-005997

At pangunahin dito yung usapin ng workers' rights and welfare.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-005998

But the irony is not lost on me. Marami po mga manggagawa tayo dito sa loob ng Kongreso, sa ating mga opisina, at mismo po sa DOLE, ang Puyat na ngayong araw na ito.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-005999

And while naniniwala tayo na dapat walang tulugan para sa transparency and accountability,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006000

sa dulo po dapat huwag din nating pabayaan ang kapakanan ng ating mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006001

Let me begin with a humble appeal to the leadership of the House of Representatives.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006002

Natiyakin po natin yung kapakanan, kalusugan ng ating mga manggagawa, ang kanilang well-being.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006003

Hindi po talaga makatarungan ang ganitong uri ng diskurso sa ganitong alangan ng oras na ng madaling araw.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006004

And the irony of it all, we're talking about workers' rights and welfare now.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006005

Balik lang po ako, Madam Speaker, ginaong sponsor doon sa kaninang exchange between the good sponsor and Representative Elly tungkol po sa nangyaring September 10 NWPC meeting.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006006

Allegedly, may nangyaring NWPC meeting noong September 10. At nabanggit din po kanina na isang dahilan kaya po lumipat ng kwarto ay dahil daw po mayroong disruption.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006007

Can the good sponsor elaborate further on this claim about disruptions or disruptors?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006008

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, well, the process sa wage setting, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, there's a reason na bakit po may proseso.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006009

One, nabanggit po natin leading to the September 10, was that there was already a public hearing.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006010

Or consultation, but technically the right word is public hearing. September 2 po yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006011

Na marami po yung, we have pictures and videos na lahat naman po doon ay imbitado.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006012

Pertaining doon po sa sinasabing September 10, tandaan po ninyo, yung ito na po ay nagpapatukoy doon sa Wage Order No. 28 na dapat ay affirmation.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006013

And for the record, sabi ko nga po kanina, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the reason of being wage na ito po ay ating nabanggit.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006014

Sapagkat, yung mga miyembro dapat ng ating na kung saan na, nasa affirmation doon sa ating wage order, ay dapat nandun na po.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006015

Nandun din yun sa binanggit ko na yung labor sector. Unfortunately, yung isa pong miyembro ay wala po.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006016

And we have the minutes to prove so, na yun lamang po dapat talaga yung mga naroon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006017

So in short, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006018

yung board po mismo yun nandun. And siguro, you just don't take my word for it.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006019

Kanina nga po, I've asked permission from the good secretariat, tandaan po natin yung

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006020

yung dapat yung pag nagdi-desisyon na

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006021

o pag mag-a-affirm na ang NWPC,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006022

it is not mandated na ibigay yung minutes of the said meeting.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006023

Pero kami po, sabi ko nga po, on the record,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006024

kasi ganun po kami kakumpiyansa,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006025

is because we are willing to do so.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006026

Yan po ay may para at least to appease everybody.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006027

At the same time, para ipakita

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006028

na kami ang Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006029

pertaining to that September 10 meeting

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006030

sa affirmation ng Wage Order 28

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006031

ay walang tinatago at the same time

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006032

para sinigurado rin po natin

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006033

na yung Wage Order No. 28

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006034

ay ma-affirm natin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006035

ma-publish September 11

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006036

and hopefully ma-implement

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006037

o maging ganap na wage order

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006038

to be implemented on September 26 of this year.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006039

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006040

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006041

I beg your indulgence, kailangan ko pong ulitin yung tanong.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006042

Ano po o sino yung disruptors

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006043

o ano po yung disruption na nabanggit kanina?

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006044

The reason as to why the meeting was transferred

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006045

from the original venue to another venue?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006046

Well,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006047

let it, ilalagay ko po sa konteksto.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006048

Binanggit ko po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006049

na yung ating affirmation ay yung wage setting na nga po.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006050

Nandun na po.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006051

Nandun na po dapat yung ating mga dapat na nandoon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006052

Kaya nga lang po, may mga pumasok na

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006053

are not supposed to be there

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006054

kasi yun na nga po yung affirmation ng Wage No. 28.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006055

Tapos na po yung public hearing eh.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006056

There's a difference, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006057

Now, I have it on

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006058

there's labor leaders na mga pumasok

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006059

na hindi naman po dapat because

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006060

sabi ko nga,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006061

ito,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006062

it was supposed to be the decision or affirmation

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006063

of the NWPC already.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006064

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006065

Go ahead, sorry.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006066

I'm so sorry, Mr. Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006067

Just to reiterate, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006068

good sponsor,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006069

hindi po disruptors

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006070

o hindi disruption

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006071

ang ating pong pag-assert

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006072

na mga leader manggagawa

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006073

o organisadong mga union

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006074

ng karapatan po nila

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006075

na malaman ang katotohanan

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006076

at magpahayag po

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006077

ng kanilang posisyon

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006078

sa napakalagang issue ng sahod.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006079

Lalo na po sa sahod

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006080

na kailangan-kailangan dagdagan sa ngayon.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006081

But let me move on to another topic.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006082

Just like to underscore

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006083

that the labor movement

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006084

or labor leaders

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006085

are not disruptors.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006086

Pag-usapan po natin yung enforcement

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006087

ng Department Order 156.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006088

Ito po ay concern na gusto i-raise

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006089

ng mga kasama natin

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006090

mula sa commercial fishing industry.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006091

Sabi po ng DOLE,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006092

6,048 workers

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006093

ang covered ng enforcement

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006094

ng DO 156

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006095

noong June 2026.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006096

Gaano na po karaming

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006097

individual fishers

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006098

ang na-verify natin

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006099

na nakakakuha na sa ngayon

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006100

ng mandated minimum wage?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006101

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006102

Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006103

based dito po sa aming datos

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006104

sa June 2026,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006105

workers covered,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006106

6,048.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006107

6,048 po.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006108

Saan po galing itong

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006109

98.91 compliance rate

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006110

ng DOLE na ito?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006111

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006112

Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006113

are you referring to the

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006114

same compliance rate,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006115

98.1% sa OSH?

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006116

This was mentioned to us

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006117

in a letter

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006118

from DOLE

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006119

as a response to our query

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006120

regarding the implementation

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006121

of DO 156.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006122

Do 156.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006123

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006124

Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006125

ito nga po din sa ating

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006126

pertaining sa minimum wage,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006127

98.91%.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006128

So, gano'n na po karami pa

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006129

ang biktima pa rin

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006130

ng traditional sharing scheme

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006131

of payment?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006132

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006133

Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006134

ang suma total po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006135

is less than 2%.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006136

Nasaan po itong mga biktimang

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006137

ito noong traditional

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006138

sharing scheme?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006139

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006140

Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006141

if it's amenable to you,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006142

we can furnish the,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006143

we'll just compile the cases

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006144

sa Region 12 at the same time.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006145

Give the Distinguished Colleague

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006146

yung kumpletong datos po.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006147

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006148

Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006149

Sige po,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006150

hintayin po natin yan

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006151

kasi nakikita po natin

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006152

sa kabila po

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006153

ng implementation

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006154

ng DO 156,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006155

mayroon pa rin po

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006156

tayong mga manggagawa

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006157

sa commercial fishing

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006158

vessels

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006159

sa industriya pong ito

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006160

ang nakakaranas

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006161

ng violation pa rin

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006162

ng kanilang karapatan

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006163

para po sa minimum wage.

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006164

So, we will wait

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006165

for the report

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006166

of the Department of Labor

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006167

through the good

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006168

sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006169

Let me move on

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006170

to another issue.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006171

And this is

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006172

ILO Convention No. 81.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006173

Noong November po,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006174

noong isang taon,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006175

ipinatupad na ng Pilipinas.

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006176

At naglalayon po ito

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006177

na magtakda

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006178

ng standards

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006180

para sa labor

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006181

inspection.

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006182

Mismo na pong

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006183

labor sekretary natin

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006184

na nagsabi na

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006185

447

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006186

out of the

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006187

1,210 labor

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006188

inspectors lang

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006189

ang talagang gumagawa

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006190

ng labor

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006191

inspection

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006192

sa mga kumpanya.

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006193

Sa proposed budget po

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006194

na 877.34 million

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006195

for labor

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006196

laws compliance,

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006197

ilan po ang

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006198

mahire na

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006199

labor inspectors

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006200

for next year,

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006201

Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006202

good sponsor.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006203

Based dun sa data

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006204

ang binanggit po,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006205

Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006206

distinguished colleague,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006207

kung ilan yung mahahire,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006208

is so

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006209

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006210

distinguished colleague,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006211

pasensya na po

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006212

for the delay.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006213

But based dun sa ating

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006214

datos na nakahawak dito

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006215

pertaining sa labor

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006216

inspectors,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006217

which is totaling,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006218

dun po sa binabanggit na

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006219

876 million,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006220

ay meron po tayong

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006221

1,046 na

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006222

labor inspectors,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006223

Madam Speaker,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006224

distinguished colleague.

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006225

Additional labor

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006226

inspectors?

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006227

No.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006228

Existing po,

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006229

filled up.

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006230

Filled up?

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006231

Sige po.

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006232

Kasi po,

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006233

ang nabanggit na ating

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006234

labor sekretary,

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006235

only 447

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006236

out of 1,210.

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006237

So ano naman po

Source

Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006238

ang plano natin,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006239

doon sa

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006240

remaining 763

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006241

out of that

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006242

210 labor inspectors

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006243

sa hindi actively

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006244

nag-inspect.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006245

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006246

distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006247

to refresh everything,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006248

yung current plantila po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006249

is 1,210.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006250

And yung binagit ko po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006251

kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006252

so 1,210,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006253

you will less

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006254

sa 1,046.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006255

So if minus

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006256

1,046 to

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006257

1,210,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006258

eh hindi po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006259

700 plus.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006260

So,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006261

hindi po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006262

ilan na lamang po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006263

yung kailangan

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006264

punan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006265

Na-fill up na.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006266

Sige po.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006267

So ma-fill up po

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006268

natin to

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006269

given the proposed

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006270

budget for 2027.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006271

And,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006272

additional information,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006273

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006274

distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006275

kasi yung

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006276

binanggit niyo po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006277

kanin datos

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006278

was ngayon na

Source

Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006279

ito yung nga po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006280

pinaka-updated

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006281

sa ngayon

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006282

at the time

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006283

as we speak.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006284

So for the record,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006285

ano nga po

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006286

ulit ang datos?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006287

1,046

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006288

labor inspectors.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006289

And,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006290

after this,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006291

we can,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006292

if the good

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006293

gentleman would,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006294

we will give you

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006295

the exact data

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006296

para on the chart po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006297

per region

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006298

na nakalagay dito

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006299

and with totals

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006300

dito po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006301

sa aming chart

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006302

na kasalukuyang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara

asr-006303

hawak.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006304

Sige po.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006305

Marami pa po

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006306

sana akong tanong

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006307

pero nangako po ako

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006308

that I'll keep it

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006309

at 10 minutes

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006310

at unholy na po

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006311

talaga yung hour.

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006312

So,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006313

with,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006314

with no other

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006315

member of the

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006316

minority

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006317

that wish to

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006318

propound questions

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006319

to the Department

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006320

of Labor,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006321

I move to

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006322

terminate

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006323

the period

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006324

of interpellation

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006325

of the budget

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006326

of the Department

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006327

of the Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006328

TESDA

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006329

and its attached

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Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña

asr-006330

agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006331

What does the House

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006332

say?

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006333

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006334

on the part

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006335

of the majority,

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006336

we join

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006337

the minority

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006338

in the motion

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006339

to terminate

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006340

the interpellations

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006341

on the proposed

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006342

budget

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006343

of the Department

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006344

of Labor

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006345

and Employment

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006346

and its attached

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006347

agencies,

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006348

Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006349

So, move,

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006350

Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006351

There is a joint motion

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006352

to terminate

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006353

the interpellations

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006354

of the proposed

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006355

budget of the Department

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006356

of Labor and Employment

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006357

including its

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006358

attached agencies.

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006359

Is there any

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006360

objection?

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006361

The Chair hears none.

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006362

The interpellations

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006363

of the proposed

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006364

budget of said agency

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006365

is hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006366

Majority Leader.

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006367

Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006368

I move that we

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006369

suspend

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006370

session

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006371

until later

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006372

10 a.m.

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006373

September 17.

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Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda

asr-006374

So, move, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006375

Is there any objection?

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006376

The Chair hears none.

Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006377

Session is suspended

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006378

until September 17

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006379

at 10 in the morning.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-006380

Session is suspended.