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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: No other member from the minority to interpolate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the consideration of budget of DAR for fiscal year 2027.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So moved, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Maraming salamat po, Majority Leader.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the DAR.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a joint motion from the majority and the minority to terminate the period of sponsorship, debate, and interpolation insofar as the proposed budget of the Department of Agrarian Reform is concerned.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Any objection? Hearing none, said motion is carried.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The period of debate, the sponsorship, debate, and interpolation of the proposed budget of the Department of Agrarian Reform is carried.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The period of debate, the sponsorship, debate, and interpolation of the Department of Agrarian Reform is hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, before we move on to the next proposed budget, may we recognize the guests of Assistant Majority Leader, Honorable Daphne Lagon, Congresswoman of the 6th District of Cebu.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: They are from the Municipal and Barangay Officials from the Municipality of Consolacion, Cebu, led by Mayor Teresa Pepito-Alegado, and Vice Mayor Mariana.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Johannes Pepito.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: They are Mayor Teresita Pepito-Alegado, Vice Mayor Johannes Alegado, Kabangahan Barangay Captain Edwin Menoza, N-Council, Kansanga Barangay Captain Peter Cabillada, N-Council, Kasili Barangay Captain Eddie Alilin, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Danglag Barangay Captain Claude Dualdo Ibon-Arendez.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Garing Barangay Captain and ABC President Wesley Alimorin, N-Council, Ugan Barangay Captain Tony Pepito, N-Council, Lamac Barangay Captain Nestos Maglasang, N-Council, Renipga Barangay Captain Russell Balaba, N-Council, Nangka Barangay Captain Neil Congso, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Ponoy Poy Barangay Captain Balaba, N-Council, Panas Barangay Captain Nelson Cutab, N-Council, Pitogo Barangay Captain Alan Claire Madhos, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Poblasyon Occidental Barangay Captain Alary Alegado, N-Council, Poblasyon Oriental Barangay Captain John Hanyel Abinales, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Polog Barangay Captain Glenn Royang, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Pulpogan Barangay Captain Avelino Bihag, Tayod Barangay Fek Kuyos, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Tilhaong Barangay Captain Reggie Lutuaw,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Tolo-Tolo Barangay Captain Earl Anthony Tapayan, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Tugbongan Barangay Captain Paz Barroso, N-Council.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the guests of the Honorable Daphne Lagon,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: ang pinakagwapan na congresswoman, Karong Adlawa.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Karong Adlawa, ha?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Of course, the municipal and barangay officials from the Municipality of Consolacion,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Cebu-headed by Mayor Teresa Pepito Alegado.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Mayor, mayang gabiin inyong tanan.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: You are the voice, the inspiration, kamuang haligi o kusog sa kongreso.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Daghan kayong salamat sa inyong pagbisita.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: God bless you always.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Moment of suspension, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Human Rights.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Commission on Human Rights, namely the Chairperson, Attorney Richard P. Palpal-latoc, Commissioners Attorney Beda A. Epres,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Attorney Faydah M. Dumarpa, Justice Monina A. Zenarosa, Judge Maria Amifaith S. Fider-Reyes, together with Executive Director Attorney Jacqueline Ann C. de Guia and Human Rights Violations Victims' Memorial Commission Acting Executive Director Lawrence Charles E. Salazar.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and staff of the Commission on Human Rights. Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate, and I move to recognize the sponsor, Vice Chair Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez of Alona Partylist.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The period of sponsorship and debate is now open, and we recognize the sponsor

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The budget of the Commission on Human Rights, in the person of Vice Chairperson of Appropriations Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez of Alona Partylist. You may now proceed.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues in the House of Representatives, magandang gabi po sa ating lahat. I rise today to sponsor the fiscal year 2027 budget of the Commission on Human Rights, an independent constitutional institution trusted with protecting the dignity and fundamental rights of every Filipino.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, allow me to put the CHR budget in perspective through one figure: 0.02%. Out of proposed 7.2 trillion national budget, only PHP 1.273 billion, or around 0.02%, is provided for the CHR under the National Expenditure Program. The Commission proposed 2.749 billion.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Even if Congress were to provide the entire amount, it would only represent around 0.04% of the national budget, from 0.02% to 0.04%. Napakaliit po ng hinihingi ng CHR, but it can make a meaningful difference in its ability to investigate human rights violations, assist victims, prevent abuse, and protect the rights of our people.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We cannot continue asking the CHR to do more without giving it the resources necessary to fulfill its constitutional mandate. The CHR is not an adversary of government. Kakampi po natin ang CHR sa mabuting pamamahala. A stronger and independent CHR strengthens accountability, protects the vulnerable, and helps build public trust in our institution. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 0.1% is a modest investment for our institution mandated to safeguard the rights of 100% of our Filipino people. For this reason, I respectfully urge this august chamber to support the approval and augmentation of the fiscal 2027 budget of the Commission on Human Rights. Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, and I am now ready to take questions from our distinguished

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: colleagues.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist is now recognized for her interpolation.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, the Commission on Human Rights Family. Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Unang katanungan ko po, would the Commission agree that the credibility of the Philippines' human rights institutions is itself an important component of the country's credibility in the international community?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: The recent failure of our country's bid for a non-permanent seat in the United Nations Security Council,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: losing

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the Asia-Pacific contest to Kyrgyzstan in June 2026 has been interpreted by some as a human rights warning.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: In fact, prominent international human rights organizations including the International Coalition for Human Rights in the Philippines

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: have publicly interpreted this electoral setback as a direct reflection of ongoing concerns regarding our domestic human rights record,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: especially during the Duterte administration.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Does the Sponsor share this view?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What role exactly did this unresolved human rights violation, especially in the past administration, play in this outcome?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: one of the Commission's significant accomplishments has been the implementation of the Task Force on Zero Backlog Cases,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: which substantially reduced the number of pending cases and helped clean up and reconcile our case data.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: In particular,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the Commission has identified 493 cases for reinvestigation in 2024,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and the Task Force has directed of 289 cases reinvestigated in 2025.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Of these 289 reinvestigated cases, 140 cases are currently for disposition by the TF.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The Task Force also successfully reviewed and evaluated these cases identified for reinvestigation,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and has begun drafting the corresponding resolution for disposition.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: This process remains ongoing, with the Commission committed to completing the disposition of these cases by the end of the year, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung mga binanggit niyo po ay mga accomplishments po ba yan ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: But I was actually trying to find out if, when I asked a while ago,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: if the Human Rights Record of the Philippines, as seen by the international community,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: had something to do with our lost bid to the UNSC,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and to which you said in the affirmative,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang gusto ko pong malaman nga,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano po itong mga unresolved cases in the past administration that you think ay nakakapag-contribute doon sa paningin na iyon ng international community?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, Representative Montes,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for example po, ang ating pong mga naka-accomplish po ay katulad po ng red tagging and EJA.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay, thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung mga ganyan po, nabanggit niyo po yung mga red tagging EJK,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: has the Commission

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: examined

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Whether these concerns ng international community, consistent po ba yan sa findings ng Human Rights Commission?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Po, ano po yung iniisip ng international community?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yan din po ba ang paningin ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay po. Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Can CHR identify programs, especially in the 2027 budget

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: that have demonstrated measurable improvements in compliance with human rights standards?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano po yung mga programang nakapaloob dyan sa 2027 budget natin na magpapakita o magpapatunay na meron nga from the past administration, meron po tayong improvement ngayon?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: A human rights-centered national protection response mechanism.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: It integrates

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: early warning, victim supports, and rapid response mechanism.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, meron po tayo ng mga tinatawag po nating programa, katulad po ng Bantay Karapatang Pantao,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: which detect, monitor, and prevent human rights risks through data and intelligence.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kalinga Karapatang Pantao provides holistic, victim-centered support, protection, and recovery services.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At syempre po, meron din po tayong Tugon Karapatang Pantao, which responds quickly, coordinates,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: intervention, and ensure protection and accountability.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Let me move on to my next question.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Just this morning, during the budget deliberations of the Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the Sponsor, Congressman Marcy Cudoro, made mention of the necessity to include the Commission on Human Rights

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: as a part of the Board of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If ever we include the CHR in the DDB, of course, by way of an amendment to the law creating the DDB,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: how do you envision your role in shaping drug-related policy?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, alam niyo po, mandato po ng CHR, lahat po ng karapatang pantao ay lagi po natin ang gagampanan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero doon po sa, kanina po sa Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: siyempre po, more than willing po na makisama, makisuporta ang CHR,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: at magkaroon po kami ng sarili natin position paper sa lahat po ng mga cases na drug-related po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Actually, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: what the DDB, what the sponsor of the DDB budget really wanted was to include the CHR

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: in the board as to help in formulating policies, kasi policymaking po yung Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to help in the formulation of policies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, alam po natin naging issue yung mga EJK, mga drugs in the past.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, I think it really is necessary to include the CHR there.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, halimbawa po, kasi I'm looking at, I'm willing to sponsor a bill tungkol po dyan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I'm looking at, for instance, in strengthening oversight sa human rights in drugs enforcement strategies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano ang pwedeng maitulong ng CHR in that regard?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Okay. Sagutin ko po muna yung unang question nyo po ulit, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The DDB, no. The DDB has not included.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The DDB has not engaged with CHR, but the CHR is more willing to be an observer po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: With regards po sa drug-related po, CHR proposes that drug use to be treated as a public health issue.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kasi po, drug use is currently being over-criminalized where users who need services to address their dependence or use are instead treated as criminals and jails.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Drug cases contribute to more than 70% of the jails.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, sa lahat po ng mga pinupuntahan po ng CHR, Madam Chair, 70% po ang mga nakakulong po sa ating mga PDLs po natin.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yeah. What you said was as observer. Is that correct? Did I hear you right?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi po, hindi po sang-ayon na maging permanent seat sa board yung CHR.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi kung ang pagbabasehan po natin,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nung kung nga po una, kung naka-apekto yung mga EJK, mga problema ng human rights violations doon sa drugs,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: hindi po ba dapat nandodon din ang CHR?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi kung may mga usapin po tayo ng paglabag ng human rights doon sa mga biktima ng mga EJKs.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, ulitin po namin, we cannot because we have to maintain our independence po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ibig sabihin po, kung sakasakali, your participation would only be limited to being an observer

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and not contributing to the policies of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We can contribute po. We can contribute po, Madam Chair, but we cannot sit as a regular member of the board, as an independent body.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, yan po yung mandato sa atin ng konstitusyon.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. Naiintindihan po natin yun, pero parte po din ng trabaho.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Human rights ng CHR ang pagprotekta sa mga vulnerable grupo, katulad ng mga kabataan,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and especially women, because the CHR has a gender—is the gender ombud.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Now, these people, yung mga youth, yung mga women, sila usually ang nabibiktima.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang karapatan nila ay nayuyurakan, natatapakan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, tungkulin ng CHR, then na maprotektahan sila.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, how do we reconcile now this mandate and this duty?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If you are saying na hindi yan mandato po ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, kung Montes, I'm with you sa karapatan po ng lahat ng ating mga vulnerable sectors,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: but syempre po, CHR is not a part of the executive, but we can monitor and we are the advisor of the government.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay, thank you so much, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang sa akin lang po, it's also a matter of...

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: you know, balancing security and rights in policymaking.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If the CHR does not see it that way,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: then perhaps there are other ways for which CHR can be able to contribute to policies

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: that affect human rights in the issue of drugs.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: CHR seats as observed in all interagency bodies,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: but it is also an activity...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: It is also an activity for which CHR can participate in awarding recommendations to different agencies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If that being so, Mr. Chair, kung nakaupo pala talaga doon,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano po ang naging contribution ng CHR noong mga panahon na may mga aligasyon ng paglabag ng karapatang pantao

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa mga tokhang, sa mga EJ case, and all,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na naging sanhi kung bakit napasama yung ating iman,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kahit sa international community.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We are having our undertaking its own investigations.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So lahat po ng cases na nagkakaroon po tayo being forwarded po sa CHR,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: unang-una po tinatanggap po natin yan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Nagkakaroon po tayo ng investigation,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: at syempre po, hanggang doon lamang po ang ating mandato,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: we cannot file cases.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero we can endorse, recommend sa mga different agencies po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Now let me move on.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I was just exploring the possibility based on the pronouncements of Congressman Teodoro

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: during the budget deliberation this morning.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So let me move on to another topic.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Recently, the CHR published...

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I would like to emphasize that it provides free information, education, and campaign or IEC materials

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to individuals and organizations to promote human rights,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: particularly among vulnerable, marginalized, and disadvantaged sectors.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May I ask the CHR, does the Commission specifically maintain IEC materials

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: on the protection of women and violence, discrimination, harassment,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and other violations of human rights?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, yes po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Dire-direcho po ang ating...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: IEC materials information sa ating pong komisyon.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. Itong mga materials na ito, where do they exist?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Online po ba?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: O are they distributed in far flung barangays, digital materials po lang ito?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because sa pagkakaalam ko po, parang online na, no?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, both physical and online po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Available po yan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So may mga distribution din.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Channels tayo.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How do we distribute it so that...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po. Nagkakaroon po tayong...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, meron pong mga visitations sa various organizations,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: sa ating pong mga barangays, municipality,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: na umiikot po ang ating pong komisyon.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. Opo.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How much po of your 2027 budget is allocated for the production,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: printing, and dissemination of these materials?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Magkano po?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang...

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nakapaloob po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. Sa 2027 budget nila.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, it's P94,643,000 ang aming proposed for 2027.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Out of the P94,000,000, magkano ang halaga specifically targeting women?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Out of the P94,000,000, ilan po doon ang halagang specifically nakatarget sa production of materials for women po?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: For women?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Naka-lump sum po siya, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So wala pong na-specific for women, for children; lump sum po siya para sa lahat po ng sectors.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kasi nga po, Madam Speaker, medyo maliit po ang allocation po natin para sa buong Pilipinas po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: But I asked a while ago if there were materials specifically for,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: addressing violence against women, and meron po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ibig sabihin po, ang nilalabas niyong materials, general na po yun.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Walang specific IEC material na para lang sa, that addresses gender violence.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Meron po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So out of this yun po sana ang gusto kong itanong, kung magkano, and ano na lang po siguro, doon sa allocation na yun,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano po ang target natin na maabot ng mga kababaihan?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Half of our population, 50% is women, ano po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ano po, maliit po ang budget ninyo, paano po natin maaabot o masasaklaw ang karamihan ng ating mga kababaihan?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Lalo na po yung mga nasa kanayunan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, ang aming pong GAD budget for 2027 ay 77 million pesos.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And doon po yun napupunta?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Anyway, I still have a lot of questions but I committed to squeezing everything in.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So siguro, pang huli na lamang po, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nais ko na lamang pong ipahayag na ang kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa kapakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan o 4K

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ay kaisa ng human rights.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Commission on Human Rights na ipagtangkol at isulong ang karapatang pantao sa harap ng malaking hamon na tugunan ang mga problema ng human rights

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa ating bansa, nais din nating hikayatin ng CHR na palawakin ang saklaw ng kanilang trabaho, patibayin ang pagganap ng tungkulin

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at tiyakin na ang bawat pisong ipinagkakaloob ng taong bayan ay tinutumbasan ng pananagutan at kongkretong resulta.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa ganitong paraan,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: maipapakita natin na ang pondo ay tunay na giging proteksyon at katarungan para sa mamamayan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor. Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: [unclear] Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Antonio L.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Tinio of ACT Teacher Partylist.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Antonio Tinio of ACT Teacher Partylist is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Salamat po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, ang tanong ko po ay kaugnay sa drug war, sa drug war ng nakaraang administrasyon ni dating Pangulong Duterte.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung extrajudicial killing.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At yung pagpaslang ng libu-libong mga kababayan nating Pilipino.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isang malaking tagumpay po para sa naghahangad ng justisya, sa mga naghahangad ng justisya sa ating lipunan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga biktima ng extrajudicial killing sa kanilang mga pamilyang naiwan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pagkaka-aresto.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At paglilitis kay dating Pangulong Duterte sa International Criminal Court.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So mahalagang tagumpay po yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam natin, hindi natatapos ang pagpapanagot kay Pangulong Duterte.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bagaman siya ang, tama lang, siya bilang Pangulo, siya ang pinakamalaking isda.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-anap na crimes against humanity.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam din natin na yung ICC nag-issue na ng warrant laban sa kanyang kanang kamay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung dati niyang PNP chief naging senador, ngayon ay nagtatago sa warrant,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sen. Bato de la Rosa, at sinasabi na mayroon pang ibang mga warrant na may issue.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero alam din natin,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na yung accountability para sa mga pagpaslang na iyan ay hindi limitado sa mga nasa pinakataas.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung chain of command at yung dugo ng extrajudicial killings ay mula sa taas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dadalo yan sa hanggang sa panggitna, sa antas na panggitna hanggang sa pinakababa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa mga aktual na mga opisyal at rank and file ng PNP, among others,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na aktual na nagpatupad,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung mga inutos sa taas,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung aktual na mga pumatay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So kaya po napakahalaga na sa loob ng ating bansa at sa pangunguna ng ating mga institusyon

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay magpatuloy ang trabaho na...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng pag-iimbestiga at pagpapanagot sa lahat ng naging sangkot sa extrajudicial killings

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ngalan ng peking drug war na ito.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaugnay nun ng ang isa sa mga institusyon na inaasahan natin na magsagawa at magtuloy

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa napakahalagang gawaing ito ay ang Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? At...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last year ay nagpahayag ang Commission on Human Rights na nagbukas sila ng imbestigasyon,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: review and investigation of several hundred mga cases of drug war killings.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po bang for the record ay mabanggit lang

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilan po yung mga...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kabuo ang kaso na sinimulang investigahan muli ng Commission on Human Rights?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, in particular, the Commission has identified 493 cases for reinvestigation in 2024

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and the task force has directed of 289 cases reinvestigated in 2025.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Of the...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Of these 289 reinvestigated cases, 140 cases are currently for disposition by the task force.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The task force has also successfully reviewed and evaluated these cases identified for reinvestigation

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and has begun drafting the corresponding resolution for disposition.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, this process remains ongoing with the Commission committed to completing the disposition

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of these cases by the end of this year.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun lang po ang gusto natin ay makuha yung update.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for 2024, nabanggit niyo po ilang kaso?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 493 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 493 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos for 20...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 25?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 25.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 289 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 289 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sa 289 cases na yan, 140 po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 120 cases was transmitted and had undergone preliminary evaluation by the EGK task force.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, 120 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, yung for resolution na po, pending resolution ay ilan po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito na po yun.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ito na po yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yung 120 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 120 po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 120?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in a communication to this representation, the chair of CHR, Richard Palpalatok, mentioned

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that the CHR would provide an official report on the 140 po ang sabi rito, 140 drug war-related

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cases for disposition slash resolution.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, which figure?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Which figure should we consider as official?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 120 or 140?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: As of today po, 140 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 140 po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 40, hindi 20.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 140 cases po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, it is indeed 140 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun lang po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang gusto lang po nating marinig ay...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na at least by the end of the year, of the over 600 cases mentioned, merong for disposition

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na 140 by the end of the year.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We will expect that update.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, ano po yung mangyayari dun sa natitira?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga 2024 cases at saka yung iba pang 2025?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang mangyayari sa mga iyon?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Dire-direcho pa rin po yung investigation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dire-direcho pa rin po yung investigation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, makakaasa po tayo na bukod dito sa 140 na target na ma-resolve at magbibigay ng

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ulat ang CHR kaugnay nito ay tuloy-tuloy pa rin po yung investigation dun sa remaining

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cases na nabanggit nyo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Tama po kayo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, again, we thank the sponsor for putting on record this commitment of the CHR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, we will expect, of course, through the Committee on Appropriations, we will expect

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the report on the disposition of the 140 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Katulad po ng sinabi natin, well, CHR po ang isa sa mga natatanging

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: institusyon sa ating lipunan na nagtutuloy

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pa rin ng imbestigasyon sa extrajudicial killings during the Duterte, under the Duterte

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Administration in the name of the War on Drugs.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napakahalaga po na ituloy ang laban na ito para sa justisya.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, muli, maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madaming salamat po sa sponsor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At pagbati po sa CHR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Kaka Bag-ao of the Lone District of Dinagat

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Island to interpolate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative from the Lone District of Dinagat Island, Representative Kaka Bag-ao is now recognized

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: for her interpolation.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Thank you very much.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Madam Speaker and Madam Sponsor, may ikli lang po para umabotay sa DOLE.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Last year po, sa budget hearing last year, parang halos kami lahat sa minority ang haba ng

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: debate namin para paglaban yung budget ng CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kasama po ako doon.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kailang nalulungkot ako sa ilan sa mga namin.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Ang nababalitaan ko, babahagyan ko lang po kayo ng ilan at sana po ay masagot nyo ito

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: kasi ang pinagagalingan ko din ay hindi lang regular na text message, kundi conversations

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: mula sa human rights organizations, sa inyong mga constituencies, sa human rights work at medyo may

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: pagka-dismaya po sa performance.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Performance ng CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Nalo na na pinakamahalagang batas ito para sa, ahensya ito para sa ating lahat.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Umpisahan ko na lang po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So, yung term ng, term ng en banc ay seven years at mula nang mabuo ito noong 1987

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ay nagkaroon na ng anim na en banc groups.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Lahat po kayo.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Mula kay CHR at sa buong en banc ay appointed for a seven-year term without reappointment

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: until 2029.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: In 2027, year five of seven na po ng inyong termino bilang en banc.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Dalawang taon na lang, tapos na yung termino.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kaya ang tanong ko po, Madam Sponsor, ay Madam Chair, ay Madam Speaker, ay by the end

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: of their term in 2029, ano talaga ang target?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Ang target na may iwan ng en banc.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Specifically po, marami po ang tanong at tingin ko sana po masagot natin ito. Marami po ang tanong mula po sa ibang human rights organizations na walang strategic plan.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Ang CHR from 2022 to 2025 na pinag-uusapan, ina-update, kahit nga po yung pinaka-strategic plan ay hindi makita ng mga tumutulong at kasama ninyo nagpapatupad ng mga CHR programs.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So, paano po daw nila manalaman kung yung 2027 budget ay nakahanay sa plano na ito?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kung wala namang malinaw na presentation ng milestones, targets, at dalawang taon na lang ay matatapos na ang inyong termino tungkol sa strategic plan ng CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pwede ho ba nyo akong bigyan ng kaliwanagan tungkol sa tanong na ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The Sixth Commission conducted its strategic planning in 2023 and issued its strategic plan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Last November 29, 2023.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Last year po, the Sixth Commission held its midterm assessment and its strategic planning with the latest MTA and STRAT plan has already been approved and is due for cascading.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2027 thrusts and priorities: Human Rights Protection Program, continuing partnership and strengthening collaboration with key government agencies and other stakeholders.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Draft protocols for the conduct of investigation on journalist safety

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and media freedom.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Implementation of the expanded national monitoring mechanism and deployment of the Protection sa Karapatang Pantao program

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and its subprograms,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Bantay Karapatang Pantao

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and Tugon Karapatang Pantao.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero kung ganyan lang din naman ang laman ng inyong strategic plan,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: baka kailangan po talaga nating balikan ito paunawa lahat.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kasi marami po akong kinonsulta din na human rights organization,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: bakit may gano'ng assessment.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Siguro maaring may nakasulat sa papel, pero ibigyan ko lang din po kayo na example.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Halimbawa, dadagdagan ko lang po yung example ni Madam Sponsor

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: dun sa mga inaasahan ng mga human rights program.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Halimbawa po inaasahan natin kagaya ng pag-review ng ating status sa ICC,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: yung status quo.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Ito po yung mga example.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Isang kongkretong example ka rin po,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: mahigit sampung specialist na ang nakaata sa CHR katulad na anti-torture law

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: and anti-forced disappearances law.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero maliban sa dalawang bilyon para sa Magna Carta of Women,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: halos lahat ng ito ay walang matinong line item

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: at walang matinong target at work plan mula sa CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Isa din kongkreto yung paghilom o yung healing intervention

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: leading to optimum management program for victims of torture-enforced disappearances.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Isang batas na ang naging mayakda pa ay si former Representative Edsel Agman

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: at Republic Act 10353 or the Anti-Enforced and Involuntary Disappearance Act of 2012.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Hindi naman.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Hindi naman po natin.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Gusto ko sabihin, kahit po sabihin natin marami tayong na lahat ng issue ay human rights issue,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: alam natin na may pangangailangan na mag-streamline, mag-focus, tingnan talaga.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At kung babalikan ko ang definition sa pagkakaintindi ko kaano po ang mandate

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ng isang human rights institution ay sana ay mag-focus para sa mga civil and political rights issue resolution.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ang pwede ko siguro po para hindi humaba ang debate tungkol dun sa meron, wala,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ini-inform ang public, pinapatupad, kulang, hindi nalalagay yung inaasahan,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: pwede po ba ako humingi ng kopya,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Mr. and Madam Sponsor ng work plan for 2027 ng CHR

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: at yung sinasabi ninyong meron,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: na meron kayong,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: na-formulate na strategic plan bula sa Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Hindi ko na rin po po mababanggitin ang mga civil society organizations na nagpahatid ng liham na ito

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: para sabihin sa inyo na sana po, no,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: gaya ko po na aktibong nanginiwalang dapat laging mapondohan ang CHR

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: at ayokong laging nakabimbin kayo sa isang libong budget,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: kapiranggot na budget,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: masakit may pakinggan yun.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero kung ang makikinig ko pong kwento bago ko po ako tatayo dito ay,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: mula dun sa mga nag-advocate din ng human rights,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ay parang hindi sila masyadong tutuwa sa ugnayan.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At pagbibigay natin ang informasyon,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: hihiling na po ako at mag-commit po sana kayo agad sa akin ngayon,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: pwede ko ho bang mahingi yung 2022 to 2029 strategic plan?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pwede ko ho bang mahingi yung 2027 budget na nakahanay ang mga planong ito?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Lalo na ang commitment na magbigay ng focus sa mga human rights program

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: kagaya na anti-enforced disappearances act implementation.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At sana po yung mga hinihingi ng ibang organizations ay matugunan po natin,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: hindi lang po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Sa press release at Facebook conversations,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: yun po, kung pwede ko bang mahingi ang ganong commitment na dalawa po,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: isang detalyado para sa 2027 at isang work plan nyo for [unclear]

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: para sigurado kung hindi ako maghihintay ng press release na sagot sa tanong ko.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We will provide the necessary documents po sa ating kasamahan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Regards po sa lahat po ng data na hinihingi po ninyo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And also po sa mga binanggit nyo po na unfunded laws,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: wala po talagang kaukalang budget po ito.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero ganun pa man, ay ginagawa po ng komisyon ang kanilang responsibilidad

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: sa pamamagitan po ng pagbibigay nga po muna ng mga position papers.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, marami pong mga nakasulat na mga nagawang mga programs and projects ang komisyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pwede rin po namin itong ibigay si inyo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Magkasamahan para meron din po kayong ma-report sa inyo pong mga civil society group.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero matanong ko lang,

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: humingi ba kayo ng pondo para mapondohan ang unfunded mandates na ito?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kagaya ng enforced disappearances, anti-enforced disappearances law, anti-torture law?

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Humingi po ba kayo?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, yes po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, three consecutive years na po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Since po nung 6 Committees.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Commission conducted po, nag-request na po ang komisyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Taon-taon po para po sa ating unfunded laws.

491
00:53:11,380 --> 00:53:16,460
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Specifically po sa anti-torture law and anti-enforced disappearances?

492
00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:19,080
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Yes po, Madam Speaker.

493
00:53:19,420 --> 00:53:21,840
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Siguro po kailangan natin, magkano pong hinihingi nyo?

494
00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:24,640
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At meron po ba kayong resibo doon sa paghingi ng pondong nyo?

495
00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:26,640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: From last...

496
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:29,580
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, yan po.

497
00:53:29,580 --> 00:53:38,260
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: I-present po namin doon sa budget presentation po natin during ating committee meeting from previous years po.

498
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:45,980
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Siguro po kasi parang nagpapasapakasahan din ang maraming ahensya para sabihin na

499
00:53:45,980 --> 00:53:54,960
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: sino ang ahensya na dapat magkaroon ng mandato para sa paghingi ng pondo para sa implementasyon ng mga batas na ito.

500
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,460
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero dalalam natin na dapat ito talaga ay malagak sa CHP.

501
00:53:59,580 --> 00:54:05,960
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At sa CHR, dapat ay naging malinaw kung saan dadalhin din ang pondong.

502
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:13,880
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, bigyan ko lang po kayo ng ilang datos para po sa mga nire-request po natin sa unfunded laws.

503
00:54:14,260 --> 00:54:23,060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: For example po sa ating special laws, yung pong RA-9851, International Humanitarian Law of 2009.

504
00:54:23,620 --> 00:54:26,540
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So nire-request po namin ito ng 15 million.

505
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,540
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yung pong ating RA 9262,

506
00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:35,860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Anti-Violence Against Women and Their Children Act of 2004, 6 million.

507
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:41,740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: RA-11036, Mental Health Act, 11 million.

508
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:50,760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: RA-11188, Special Protection of Children in Situation of Armed Conflict Act, 350,000.

509
00:54:51,420 --> 00:54:55,640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020, 14 million.

510
00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:59,560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Anti-Torture Act of 2009, 4 million.

511
00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:04,540
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Anti-Inforced Disappearance Law of 2012, 6 million.

512
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: RA-Magna Carta of Women, 6 million.

513
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:16,340
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So ito po ay 3 years na po hanggang ngayon po ay hindi po nabibigyan ng budget.

514
00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:25,500
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kaya po siguro maganda rin makita sa inyong milestone, identification sa inyong 10-year program.

515
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,440
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Saan po natin, paano po natin sasabihin na marami?

516
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,560
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Paano po tayong nagawa?

517
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:38,540
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Siguro din po, hindi naman po din tayo hihintulang sa pagkasabing dahil hindi siya napupondohan,

518
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,380
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ay wala na rin tayong gagawin about it.

519
00:55:41,580 --> 00:55:47,040
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So, baka lang po, Madam Sponsor, baka humingi po.

520
00:55:47,340 --> 00:55:51,080
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kasi ang marami po sa tanong na ito, ang pinakamahalagang mga tanong na ito,

521
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:59,300
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ay nagagaling din po sa mga kasamahan natin sa civil society organizations na nagtataka.

522
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:16,980
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At nagtatanong kung saan pumupunta yung accomplishments ng commission sa pag-realize ng targets niya para sa mga pagtapos ng kanilang termino bilang member ng NBank.

523
00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:28,980
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So, baka po pwede din ako magtanong kailan ko po makikita yung dokumentong yun para po malaman natin at maibalik din natin sa mga samahan na ito na,

524
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:37,340
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ito po ang pwede natin i-review at tingnan para pakita natin yung supportang maaari natin ibigay sa CHR.

525
00:56:38,780 --> 00:56:44,600
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, we will provide po necessary documents. Magsasubmit po kami sa inyo.

526
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:53,940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Sabi po ng komisyon, sabi po ng ating chairman Richard Pagpalatok, kahit hanggang bukas daw po ay magproprovide daw po kami ng data sa inyo.

527
00:56:55,020 --> 00:56:56,900
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kahit bukas po,

528
00:56:56,900 --> 00:56:59,080
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: hindi po kahit bukas.

529
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,220
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Bukas po.

530
00:57:00,220 --> 00:57:00,540
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Bukas po.

531
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:13,960
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Abagahan ko yun na Madam Sponsor. Maraming po salamat. Yun lang po sa ngayon ang gusto kong maipahatid. Thank you so much Madam Speaker at sa lahat po na bubuo ng komisyon.

532
00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:17,600
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

533
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:28,600
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List to interpellate on the proposed budget.

534
00:57:30,220 --> 00:57:35,640
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

535
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

536
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:58,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tungkol sa nailabas na ulat ng Commission on Human Rights nitong April 7, tungkol sa panawagan ng dagliang aksyon para tugunan ang mga kondisyon at mga gaps para sa child protection sa ilang bahay pag-asa,

537
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:26,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa buong bansa. Ito po yung ating mga facilities na magtitiyak sana na may rehabilitative, may digtas na espasyo para sa mga CICL na matugunan yung pangangailangan para ho sila ay makabalik muli sa ating society, makapagpatuloy ng pag-aaral at matiyak ang karapatan ng mga bata.

538
00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:37,840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang ilan sa mga na-document na seryosong issues ng CHR ay tungkol sa mga gaps sa implementation ng Juvenile Justice and Welfare Act.

539
00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:50,720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandito rin po ang violence during a child's apprehension, ill-treatment by facility personnel, and facilities that are designed more like jails than safe spaces for children.

540
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, nakikita rin po ang ganitong sitwasyon sa nailabas na report.

541
00:58:56,180 --> 00:59:09,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Children's Legal Rights and Development Center tungkol naman sa mga torture cases at abuso sa mga bata, sa mga bahay pag-asa, ganon din po sa iba't ibang mga facilities sa buong bansa.

542
00:59:10,220 --> 00:59:25,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang tanong po natin para sa Commission on Human Rights, mula po ma-issue ninyo ang ulat na ito, naglabas din po kayo ng detalyado na situation report, meron na po bang tugon ang mga relevant agencies kung paano matitiyak na may aksyon?

543
00:59:26,180 --> 00:59:28,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga kasong ito.

544
00:59:35,740 --> 00:59:41,180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, meron po tayong datos sa katanungan po ni...

545
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:50,640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Last Tuesday po, we presented sa isang forum lahat po ng mga government agencies.

546
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:56,020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ito pong inyong mga tinanong ngayon, Kong Ilago.

547
00:59:56,180 --> 00:59:58,560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We presented po ito.

548
01:00:00,740 --> 01:00:14,620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, bukod sa ating pinakahuli na situation report, meron din tayong updated na data at information tungkol sa kalagayan ng ating bahay pag-asa facilities.

549
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:24,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron na ba tayong coordination? Present din po ba sa inyong ginanap na forum, halimbawa ang DSWD, para investigahan ang ganitong mga kaso?

550
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:38,400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, yes po. Bukod po sa DSWD, nandoon din po ang PNP, ang DILG at AFP po.

551
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:46,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, meron ding mahalagang center ang CHR tungkol sa pagtataguyod ng karapatan ng mga bata, ang Child Rights Center.

552
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:51,520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon po ba, magkano po ang nakalaan na pondo para sa Child Rights Center?

553
01:00:51,520 --> 01:01:07,360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, muli at tulad po ng ating paninindigan noong budget briefing, ang mga policy center na ito ay susi para matiyak natin na ang ating mga aksyon, mga desisyon, mga posisyon sa iba't ibang issue,

554
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:13,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa paggamit ng pondo ng ating bayan, ay nagagabayan ng datos.

555
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:20,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang sinasabi ngayon, Madam Speaker, nangangailangan na tugunan natin agad itong nakakaalalaan.

556
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:28,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mga kaso ng torture at child protection gaps sa ating bahay pag-asa facilities.

557
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,340
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Naka-lump sum po siya sa ating

558
01:02:10,340 --> 01:02:15,500
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: policy program para po sa formulation and advocacy of human rights

559
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:16,280
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: policies,

560
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:24,180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Plans and Programs and Monitoring Implementation of International Human Rights, nagkakahalaga po siya ng 79 million pesos.

561
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

562
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gayun din po sinusuportahan natin.

563
01:02:31,940 --> 01:02:35,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Alam ko ho na malayo pa iyan doon sa mga kinakailangan.

564
01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:44,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang po hinihiling pero pinapanawagan ng ating mga policy centers para sa sapat na pondo para mapagpatuloy ang kanilang mahalagang trabaho.

565
01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:50,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, tungkol sa Human Rights Violations Victim Memorial Commission.

566
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Base po sa General Appropriations Bill na ating tinatalakay ngayon,

567
01:02:56,500 --> 01:03:07,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bumaba ang budget ng Human Rights Violations Victim Memorial Commission mula sa 62,504,000, naging 61,174,000 na lamang.

568
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano po ang dahilan ng pagbaba nito?

569
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa ngayon po, maari ba tayong bigyan ng update?

570
01:03:14,140 --> 01:03:14,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung...

571
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:22,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano na ang status ng pagtatayo o yung pagtatayo ng mga dapat matapos ng komisyon na ito?

572
01:03:23,620 --> 01:03:32,580
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, kasi po ang ating capital outlay po ngayon ay zero ang allocation.

573
01:03:34,860 --> 01:03:36,600
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Wala pong nakalagay ngayon.

574
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:40,640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So compared po last year, kahit po paano, meron po tayong capital outlay.

575
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,880
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ngayon pong 2020, for 2027 po,

576
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,480
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: zero allocation po tayo.

577
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:56,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, hingin na rin po natin muli yung detalye tungkol dito at maisumite sa representasyon na ito mula sa kababaihan.

578
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:09,340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po tungkol sa naiulat na nawawala na trust fund ng mga PDL sa CIW, sa Correctional Institute for Women.

579
01:04:09,340 --> 01:04:14,340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At dito po, naiulat din sa kapulungan na ito na may aabot sa 60%.

580
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:26,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang tindig dito ng CHR ay dapat magkaroon ng independent probe sa nawawalang CIW-PDL trust fund.

581
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:32,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari ba tayong bigyan ng update tungkol sa nasabing independent investigation?

582
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:44,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano matitiyak din ang Kongreso na magagamit nito ang kanyang kapangyarihan sa oversight para matiyak na magagawa ng CHR ang kanyang trabaho?

583
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:56,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na kung meron mang dapat silipin, dapat gawin o mabago para mapagtibay ang palisiya para magawa ang independent probe, ay magawa natin ito.

584
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, until now ongoing po ang investigation.

585
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:12,120
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: PDLs raise allegations regarding irregularities in the handling, accounting, and release of funds under the CIW-PDL trust fund,

586
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,120
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: including an alleged discrepancy.

587
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:39,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, sinusuportahan ng representasyon na ito ng kababaihan ang paglulunsad ng independent probe ng Commission on Human Rights sa nasabing issue.

588
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi biro ang abot sa 6 million pesos na nawawala.

589
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dapat may malinaw na mapanagot tungkol dito.

590
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:59,460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Habang tinitiyak din natin na yung capacity ng CHR na magsagawa ng ganitong mga independent probe, magawa nila ng nasa oras.

591
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:04,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang po ito tungkol sa pananagutan, sa accountability, Madam Speaker.

592
01:06:05,260 --> 01:06:12,840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa tingin po natin, dapat meron ding malinaw na direksyon paano ba mababalik yung mga nawawalang mga pondo na yan.

593
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:19,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano natin matitiyak na hindi na mauulit ito muli sa ating mga facilities.

594
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:30,140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, nais ko rin pong magtanong isang bagay na ibahagi ko rin kanina sa harap ng issue.

595
01:06:30,380 --> 01:06:36,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tungkol po ito sa issue ng mga kababayan natin na magpasa hanggang ngayon,

596
01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:41,260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: siyempre taon, matapos ang Marawi siege, ay nasa temporary shelter pa rin.

597
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:47,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nagkaroon po ba ang pag-aaral ang CHR? Nagkaroon po ba kayo ng pagbisita?

598
01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:58,080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nagkaroon na po ba ng mga pinakahuling pag-uulat na tungkol sa sitwasyon ng ating mga internally displaced persons?

599
01:06:58,460 --> 01:07:07,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano po natin napapaabot sa iba't ibang mga agencies ang kanilang mga pangangailangan para sa makataong kondisyon?

600
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:12,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At matiyak yung kanilang karapatan na mabuhay ng may pantay na karapatan.

601
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:13,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May dignidad.

602
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:20,560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, with regards po sa ating Marawi siege, I am with you, Kong Sara.

603
01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:30,020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, CHR granted financial assistance to 2,372 claimants, amounting to 7.1 million pesos.

604
01:07:30,020 --> 01:07:39,700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We have also issued a human rights advisory with continuous monitoring of compliance with laws and standards described in the advisory.

605
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron din po tayong issuance of press statement

606
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,360
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and social media cards.

607
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:52,240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And sa totoo lang po, ngayon pong November, sabi po ng komisyon, sila po ay pupunta uli sa Marawi City.

608
01:07:53,220 --> 01:08:02,760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, sa pagpunta ng komisyon sa darating na Nobyembre dito sa Marawi, ano po ang particular na layunin ng pagbisita na ito?

609
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:12,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na, meron hong bagong executive order tungkol sa pagtatatag ng Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation.

610
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:20,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And development na is po natin, kumbaga hindi lang po ito ginawa para lang masabi na meron tayong ganitong office.

611
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:30,460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero matiyak na ang office na ito na naitatag ay tutugon talaga sa agad na mga pangangailangan ng ating mga kababayan na ID,

612
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:37,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hanggang ngayon ay nakakaranas pa rin ng nakakulangan sa adequate housing sa kanilang lugar.

613
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,000
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker.

614
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:50,800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ang pagpunta po doon ng komisyon ay magkakaroon po tayo ng diagolo para po sa ating mga residente ng Marawi City.

615
01:08:51,520 --> 01:09:02,560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At syempre po, sa D-SUD po, nagpadala na rin po tayo ng letter para po i-raise yung operationalized MCB provided

616
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:08,300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: at nagbigay po tayo ng recommendation and technical assistance para sa kanilang sekretariat.

617
01:09:09,220 --> 01:09:11,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

618
01:09:11,340 --> 01:09:12,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa kasalukuyan din po.

619
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:24,320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nagpaabot po noon ng panawagan din ang mga residente sa Marawi sa pangunguna ng Marawi Advocacy Accompaniment

620
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:33,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na magkaroon ng dialogo at konsultasyon na ispo sana namin natawagan din ang Center for Social Justice and Humanitarian Protection

621
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:41,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para doon sa mga issues, concerns, at needs po nila ay maisama naman doon sa magiging plano

622
01:09:41,220 --> 01:09:45,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Marawi Diablitation and Development.

623
01:09:46,020 --> 01:09:51,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kumbaga, matiyak po natin na sa lahat ng mga magiging plano, kasama mismo yung tao.

624
01:09:52,740 --> 01:10:01,700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, sa November 17 po, pupunta po ang komisyon sa Marawi at magkakaroon po tayo ng Multi-Stakeholder Forum on Housing,

625
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Land Property Rights, at kasama din po rito ang Marawi Board.

626
01:10:07,460 --> 01:10:09,120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

627
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:10,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At harap din sa kapulungan na ito ang...

628
01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:14,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Marawi Victims Compensation Board.

629
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:23,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At marami din pong mga katanungan ng ating mga kababayan kung paano ba gagamitin at ginagamit ang pondo ng bayan

630
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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil ngayong 2027, sa susunod na taon, zero ang pondo nila para sa susunod na taon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, malinaw na marami pa rin mga nangangailangan, kaya dapat po natin itulak kasabay ng pagtataas ng pondo ng CHR,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pondo rin para sa...

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01:10:41,220 --> 01:10:49,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga bodies na tumutugon sa pangailangan ng mga affected pa rin na stakeholders sa Marawi.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman bilang panghuli, Madam Speaker, nais ko lang pong mapaalalahanan ang ating CHR tungkol sa ating request.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung meron na kayong assessment sa role ng CHR sa pagtitiyak ng right to adequate housing at right against unjust demolition,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung meron na po kayong ulat tungkol dyan, dahil kayo po ay kasama sa dapat sa mga panahon na magkakaroon ng mga demolisyon

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at maobserba na naoobserba natin yung mga protocols, yung mga policies na nagtataguyod sa karapatang pantao, number one po yan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At number two, kung sa tingin po ba ninyo ay kailangan pa natin ang mas pangil at mas malakas po,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga kapangyarihan para matiyak talaga na mauuna ang karapatang pantao sa pagtataguyod ng karapatan sa sapat at disente na panirahan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, may commission and bank na po tayo, may commission and bank resolution na po tayong naibigay dito,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: at ang commission po ay kasama pa rin po sa pre-demolition board.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At yan po ang hihintayin ng ating representasyon.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Magiging resulta ng pagpupulong na yan at kung may kopya na kayo ng resolution.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang hiningi nga po natin yung evaluation ng gaps eh, kung meron.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi meron din sa ating kongreso, Madam Speaker, matagal nang sinusulong ng CHR yung pagpapalakas sa ating National Human Rights Institution.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang kongreso na rin niyang sinusulong dito sa House of Representatives.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero ang nangyayari, lagi nakakalimutan.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May nakapasa dito pero nabibinbinbin sa Senado o kaya po talagang hindi nakakaabot ang pagpasa.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya ang hamon sa ating 28th Congress, hindi lang matiyak ang sapat na pondo sa CHR, kundi mapasa na rin ang mga mahalagang batas na ito,

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang strengthening ng CHR bilang National Human Rights Institution, kasama na rin po ng protection ng rights ng human rights defenders.

651
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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po tayong HRD bill.

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01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron din po tayo ngayong nakakaabot.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang bang na panukalang batas para sa National Preventive Mechanism para matiyak na compliance sa optional protocol sa Convention Against Torture ang ating mga batas, ang ating mga palisya.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya naman, Madam Chair, dito na po ako magtatapos.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi pa rin po nagbibigay ang CHR ng ulat tungkol dun sa hinihain ng mga kababaihan mula sa Marikina.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tungkol po sa ulat sa kanilang lugar ng presence po na nagbubunga o naghahatid po ng threat, harassment, at intimidation sa kanilang mga lugar.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, yan na lang po ang maitutulak natin sa CHR na dagliang maipaabot sa representasyon na ito.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Dadah Kiram Ismula of the Akbayan Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Dadah Kiram Ismula of Akbayan Party-list is now recognized for her interpellation.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magandang gabi po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, meron lamang akong ilang katanungan related to the disposition of cases handled by the Commission.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor, under the 2027 NEP ng CHR, can you describe what the Human Rights Protection Program is about?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And can the good sponsor also please describe how this program and its services can help an ordinary citizen, for example, a Moro or indigenous person? Thank you.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, the Human Rights Protection Service is the operational arm responsible for investigating complaints,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: manages cases, and delivering direct intervention for victims of human rights violations.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, yung key functions and services po are independent investigations, quick response operations, legal aid and counseling, forensic and medical legal services, financial assistance, and witness protection.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano po kaya ito makakatulong sa isang ordinaryong mamamayan or ordinary citizen, for example, a moro or indigenous person?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, yung ating mga clients, actually po, pwede po silang pumunta walk-in, physical in-person, o pwede rin po nilang bisitahin ang ating mga regional offices.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron po tayong 17 regional offices sa buong Pilipinas.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pwede rin po silang mag-message sa FB.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron din po tayong online portal, yung tinatawag po natin mismo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron din po tayong hotlines, emails.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pwede rin po silang magbigay ng letters.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At saka motu proprio, our own investigation and initiative.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, Madam Sponsor, if an ordinary citizen wants to avail the services of this Human Rights Protection Program, ano ang process for them to avail?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Bukod doon sa nabanggit ninyong mag-walk-in, magsusulat, paano po kaya yung proseso nila?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sabihin natin, nag-walk-in po ako.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pagdating ko doon, paano po kaya yung magiging proseso?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Wala po yung, ang komisyon po ay, wala po silang formal process na tinatawag.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Formal complaint.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Formal complaint. Lahat po ay, pag pumunta po doon, yung po ay agad-agad nating tutugunan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Hindi po kailangan magkaroon ng formal complaint na dadalhin sa komisyon ang ating mga clients.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At tama po ba, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wala itong timeline?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Wala po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Given this, sa 2025 GAA, ang target ninyo sa pag-resolve ng human rights violation cases ay 90%.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero ang actual accomplishment ay 13.90% lang.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: For cases finally disposed, kumbaga naisara na, within the prescribed period, ang target ay 95%, pero ang actual ay 53.30%.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maari po bang ipaliwanag kung bakit hindi na-meet ang targets na ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker. Yes, we do confirm na 90% po ng ating targets sa pag-resolve ng cases with access to remedies,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: lumalabas po na tila mababa ang accomplishment at 13.9%.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ngunit ito po ay dahil.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Isinama namin sa bilang ang mga backlog cases mula pa po noong 1987 hanggang 2024.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kapag tinignan po lamang ang new o yung pong 2025 na mga bagong kaso, ang ating pong accomplishment ay 86.67%.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kaya nais po naming ipaliwanag na tila mababa po yung 53.30% dahil karamihan sa mga kasong naitala sa panahon ay natanggap po sa huling quarter

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: o mga buwan ng 2025. Kaya ito po

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ay tumatakbo pa for investigation sa ating pong mga regional offices at siyempre po hindi naman po ito madali.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kaya nahihirapan din po tayo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero para ipaliwanag po ito sa mga region, kami po ay maraming investigation.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Marami po tayong kaso for investigation na mas madaming walk-in clients.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kaya po yung kakulangan po ng personnel natin, isang factor pa rin po ito.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At nagkakaroon po tayo ng...

708
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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At nagkakaroon po tayo ng NIR na isa pa lamang newly created office.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So matotal po ang lumalabas na kaya siya medyo mababa tignan ay dahil may mga nasa huling quarter na ito na pumasok ang cases

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at kaya hindi pa naibibilang ang accomplishment niya.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Tama po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At bilang isa din sa mga rason ay ang syempre ang kaso ay taon...

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Taon ang bilang bago mo ito ma-re-resolve.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Depende pa sa anong klaseng kaso ito, diba?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: But anyway, finally, Distinguished Sponsor, ano po ang kongkretong hakbang na nakikita ng CHR para masigurong ma-improve ang performance

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at maabot ang mga itinakdang targets sa susunod na taon?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, to my colleague, napakaganda po ng tanong ninyo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: To address the gaps po in the resolution and disposition of cases,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the investigation function of the CHR should first be strengthened before the resolution, disposition of cases be made.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thus, the following line items is the budget should be increased.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Unang-una po yung travel expenses po natin, supplies, representation, postage and training expenses.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kasi alam nyo po, Madam Speaker, nahahamper po yung services po ng komisyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yung pagpunta na lamang po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Sa mga regional offices, nagkakaroon po kami, medyo tight po ang budget na naibigay po natin sa komisyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kaya po naman, hindi lamang po sa personnel, pati po sa services, talagang nagkakaroon po tayo ng gaps and lapses.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero gayon pa man po, hanggang sa makakaya nga po ng komisyon, ay gagawin po natin ang mandato po sa atin ng konstitusyon.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, dadako naman po ako sa mga katanungan na nais ipahatid

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng ating colleague, our Senior Deputy Minority Leader, Representative Leila de Lima.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, the Philippines ranking in the World Justice Project Rule of Law Index showed a slight improvement overall.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Moving from 99th out of 142 countries in 2024 to 97th out of 143 countries in 2025.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: However, the country remained.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 118th in fundamental rights while its civil justice ranking deteriorated from 98th to 106th despite an improvement in criminal justice from 124th to 119th.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa kabila ng slight improvement overall, nananatiling mababa ang performance natin sa fundamental rights. Ano po ang nakikitang pangunahing gaps ng CHR at ano ang mga hakbang nitong ginagawa para matugunan ang mga ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, on national protection mechanism, this aim for a comprehensive and institutionalized national mechanism that integrates

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: prevention, protection, and response. It also enhances coordination across stakeholders, utilizes data-driven system for decision-making, and also ensures inclusivity through GAD principle.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ang PKP framework po aims to address the gaps. For example, yung delayed response to incidents, weak interagency coordination, at yung ating limited integration of data system.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron din po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Mayroon din po tayong uneven access to service across regions by establishing a unified human rights.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Para ba tugunan ang pagbaba ng civil justice? Anong mga interventions ang kailangan ng CHR at may sapat po bang pondo or funds sa kasulukuyang budget para maisagawa ang mga ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, lagi po naman tayong hindi sapat ang pondo, Madam Speaker.

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01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:38,060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero siyempre po, we have the continuing

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: advocacy for passage of HRD laws and also lahat po ng bill for CADB.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ang budget po kasi natin for 2027 para sa protection ay 95 million ay hindi po sapat para mapalawak at gumawa ng bagong mga programa at tustusan ang gastos ng 17 regional offices na nangangailangan po ng mga sasakyan,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: gas at kung ano-ano pa para po sa ating mga imbestigasyon.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At para po sa huling katanungan, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, sa criminal justice naman, umangat tayo from 124 to 119.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero mababa pa rin ang standing natin.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano po ang specific programs ng CHR na nangangailangan ng additional resources upang mapalakas ang access to justice?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At human rights protection?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Unang-una po, Madam Speaker, kailangan po natin madagdagan ang budget ng ating komisyon para ma-establish po at mapalakas ang national protection mechanism para po sa ating human rights defenders.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Katulad po ng ating bantay karapatang pantao, kalinga karapatang pantao, at tugon karapatang pantao, nagkakahalaga po itong an additional 13 million pesos.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa huli, ito'y lumalabas na nasa budget pa rin ang problema.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In closing, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, I would like to manifest that the budget of the Commission on Human Rights should be sufficient to allow the CHR to fully carry out its constitutional mandate, which is to protect and uphold the rights of our people.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: We trust that the guidance of the good sponsor, this chamber, will give due consideration to strengthening the CHR's budget.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list to interpellate the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Rene Luis Co of Kabataan Party-list.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Now recognized to interpellate.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening to the good sponsor and to the Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd just like to have some questions in relation to our discussion in the previous budget briefing held with the Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In the committee-level deliberations, the CHR mentioned that there is still or there is now

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no specific line item in the budget for its programs against red tagging, which is up for design.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And so, if there will be a design for it, it will get its funds from the Human Rights Protection Program.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this correct, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Would it be beneficial, therefore, if the budget were to itemize and directly fund the CHR's anti-red tagging program?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Similar to the National Preventive Mechanism in the near future?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker.

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01:27:14,500 --> 01:27:16,620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

772
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:27,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We note that the NPM item label has conduct of regular visitations in places of detention and rehabilitation facilities

773
01:27:27,740 --> 01:27:32,000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and preventive monitoring of human rights conditions herein.

774
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In our previous discussion and in the recommendations,

775
01:27:37,460 --> 01:27:46,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as provided in the Commission on Human Rights investigation on the National Inquiry on Red Tagging,

776
01:27:46,580 --> 01:27:55,560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it says that there could be quick response mechanisms when such instances or cases are reported to the Commission on Human Rights.

777
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:06,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In the near future, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, can the CHR consider or can we expect from the CHR that there will be a line item

778
01:28:06,220 --> 01:28:07,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to correspond?

779
01:28:07,460 --> 01:28:20,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To funding the creation, design, and support of programs to address issues of red tagging that will be designed by the CHR?

780
01:28:20,420 --> 01:28:21,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

781
01:28:23,220 --> 01:28:24,500
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker.

782
01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:27,860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, yes, po.

783
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

784
01:28:30,740 --> 01:28:35,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We're heartened to hear this response from the Commission on Human Rights,

785
01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:37,420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we hope that in the near future,

786
01:28:37,460 --> 01:28:49,020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or we'd be able to design programs and to have a line item specifically to ensure that our recommendation

787
01:28:49,020 --> 01:29:03,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that red tagging must be prevented, must be responded upon with preventive mechanisms would happen and would be supported.

788
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:15,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be because in the past year since the last budget season, multiple activist groups and progressive individuals

789
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:20,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: have filed complaints before the Commission on Human Rights to investigate human rights violations.

790
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:31,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There were cases filed by a member of BPO Employees Network in Cebu.

791
01:29:31,300 --> 01:29:33,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There is a complaint filed.

792
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There is a complaint filed by a student leader from SLSU.

793
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:45,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There are complaints filed because of the arbitrary mass arrests during the 2026 State of the Nation Address.

794
01:29:46,580 --> 01:29:51,100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There's also one filed by a Gabriela Women's Party chapter in Marikina.

795
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:58,080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And there is also another one filed by civil rights organizations in Ilocos.

796
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There's one filed in Southern

797
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tagalog Region. There's one

798
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: filed by a student leader in UST.

799
01:30:04,700 --> 01:30:05,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

800
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may we ask

801
01:30:08,140 --> 01:30:10,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the statuses of

802
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the following cases?

803
01:30:12,220 --> 01:30:13,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can this just be submitted to

804
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the good representation in a report?

805
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:17,960
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker,

806
01:30:18,100 --> 01:30:19,780
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: we will submit our

807
01:30:19,780 --> 01:30:22,400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: report and updates

808
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,360
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: to you,

809
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,520
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Cong. Renee.

810
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:28,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good

811
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor because this is in relation to

812
01:30:30,540 --> 01:30:32,480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the earlier question

813
01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:33,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that

814
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these groups and

815
01:30:36,340 --> 01:30:38,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these individuals have

816
01:30:38,140 --> 01:30:38,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: suffered

817
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: instances, cases of red tagging

818
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but not only that, human rights

819
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violations, surveillance,

820
01:30:46,740 --> 01:30:47,320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: harassment,

821
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: police violence,

822
01:30:51,860 --> 01:30:53,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that at the end of the day

823
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the proposals for

824
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the line items

825
01:30:57,820 --> 01:30:58,320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may be

826
01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: best be used

827
01:30:59,660 --> 01:31:02,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the continuing operations

828
01:31:02,140 --> 01:31:03,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the Commission on Human Rights.

829
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, we'll

830
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: submit these cases

831
01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:10,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we'd like to request

832
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a written update on

833
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: their status

834
01:31:14,340 --> 01:31:16,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as of date, Madam Speaker.

835
01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:18,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

836
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: my next question would be

837
01:31:20,260 --> 01:31:21,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to

838
01:31:21,460 --> 01:31:24,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the HRVVMC

839
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the Martial Law Museum.

840
01:31:26,620 --> 01:31:28,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: As we know, it's September

841
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 16, we are a few

842
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:31,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: days shy

843
01:31:31,500 --> 01:31:34,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to the

844
01:31:34,460 --> 01:31:36,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: commemoration of

845
01:31:36,500 --> 01:31:38,640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the declaration of Martial Law

846
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which happens every

847
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: September 21 of the year.

848
01:31:43,220 --> 01:31:44,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So that will be

849
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its 54th year since

850
01:31:45,900 --> 01:31:48,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the declaration by

851
01:31:48,500 --> 01:31:50,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ferdinand Marcos

852
01:31:50,460 --> 01:31:52,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sr. May we ask for a status

853
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: update on the following memorial

854
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: efforts? For example,

855
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we have the Freedom Memorial

856
01:31:58,240 --> 01:31:59,380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Museum Gallery.

857
01:32:00,380 --> 01:32:02,280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can we ask for a general

858
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: status update of the Freedom Memorial

859
01:32:04,540 --> 01:32:06,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Museum Gallery? Madam Speaker,

860
01:32:06,660 --> 01:32:07,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor.

861
01:32:10,020 --> 01:32:12,160
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, as to

862
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: current status of the Freedom Memorial

863
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:15,420
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Museum Project,

864
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:18,080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: original

865
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: site unavailable.

866
01:32:21,540 --> 01:32:22,060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: On March

867
01:32:22,060 --> 01:32:23,200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2026,

868
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:24,700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: March 26,

869
01:32:25,580 --> 01:32:26,440
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2026,

870
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:28,140
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the UP Office of the

871
01:32:28,140 --> 01:32:29,760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Vice President for Development

872
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,000
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: informed HRVVMC

873
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:33,660
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: that the originally agreed

874
01:32:33,660 --> 01:32:35,740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: [unclear] site within UP Diliman

875
01:32:35,740 --> 01:32:38,200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: could no longer be made available

876
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and proposed an alternative

877
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: site. September 2,

878
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,320
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2026, the Commission

879
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:45,860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: wrote a follow-up

880
01:32:45,860 --> 01:32:48,080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: to the

881
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:49,640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: UP Office of the Vice President

882
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,160
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for Development for the Submission

883
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:53,840
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of Relevant Technical Document.

884
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:57,620
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And as of today,

885
01:32:57,620 --> 01:32:59,980
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the UP Office of the Vice President

886
01:32:59,980 --> 01:33:02,040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for Development has yet to submit

887
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:03,940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the technical documents

888
01:33:03,940 --> 01:33:05,740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: requested by

889
01:33:05,740 --> 01:33:07,900
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: HRVVMC to evaluate

890
01:33:07,900 --> 01:33:09,560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the alternative site it

891
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,900
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: proposed. Madam Speaker,

892
01:33:12,020 --> 01:33:13,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, to clarify, this is for

893
01:33:13,700 --> 01:33:15,640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the permanent Martial Law Museum,

894
01:33:15,860 --> 01:33:16,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: correct?

895
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:17,460
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, po.

896
01:33:18,380 --> 01:33:19,640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And the

897
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: status update being shared now

898
01:33:21,620 --> 01:33:23,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is that there is

899
01:33:23,220 --> 01:33:25,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: finality from UP that

900
01:33:25,460 --> 01:33:27,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it would no longer

901
01:33:27,620 --> 01:33:29,780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be available

902
01:33:29,780 --> 01:33:31,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with regards to the original

903
01:33:31,820 --> 01:33:34,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: site conceptualized

904
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:35,100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for it.

905
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:36,020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker.

906
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:37,580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We're looking at

907
01:33:37,580 --> 01:33:39,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or we're hoping for alternatives

908
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which has yet to arrive.

909
01:33:42,180 --> 01:33:43,100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is that correct?

910
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:43,860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, po. Yes, Madam

911
01:33:43,860 --> 01:33:44,700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Speaker.

912
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:46,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So there are no alternative sites

913
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:47,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as of date, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

914
01:33:48,060 --> 01:33:49,300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: As of date, po, wala pa po.

915
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:50,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

916
01:33:51,740 --> 01:33:53,940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may I

917
01:33:53,940 --> 01:33:55,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: clarify what will happen

918
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:56,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to its budget?

919
01:33:57,620 --> 01:33:58,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will it just be

920
01:33:58,900 --> 01:34:01,780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sitting there for a bit until

921
01:34:01,780 --> 01:34:03,480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we find an alternative site?

922
01:34:03,980 --> 01:34:05,880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is there a threat that it will have to

923
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:07,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be returned to the Treasury

924
01:34:07,820 --> 01:34:10,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because there's no alternative

925
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yet? Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

926
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:13,640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker,

927
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:15,640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: since nasa trust fund po siya,

928
01:34:16,140 --> 01:34:17,920
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: secured po siya, Madam Speaker.

929
01:34:18,500 --> 01:34:19,780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Madam

930
01:34:19,780 --> 01:34:20,940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Speaker, good sponsor,

931
01:34:21,660 --> 01:34:23,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is there

932
01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:24,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: still

933
01:34:24,500 --> 01:34:27,580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a target date by which,

934
01:34:27,620 --> 01:34:29,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it can be put up, given

935
01:34:29,700 --> 01:34:31,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that there's this

936
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:32,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development?

937
01:34:34,980 --> 01:34:35,700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Target

938
01:34:35,700 --> 01:34:37,700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: date of completion? Madam Speaker,

939
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,360
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: we're still dependent on the,

940
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:40,320
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: on UP.

941
01:34:41,580 --> 01:34:43,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

942
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation is still hoping

943
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that even though

944
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given this unfortunate

945
01:34:49,660 --> 01:34:51,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development, dapat po matayo

946
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: itong Memorial Museum

947
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ito. Marami pong

948
01:34:56,060 --> 01:34:56,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: um,

949
01:34:57,620 --> 01:34:59,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga mamamayang Pilipino

950
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:01,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang pinaslang noong batas

951
01:35:01,260 --> 01:35:03,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: militar. Dahil din po

952
01:35:03,140 --> 01:35:05,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito, nagkaroon tayo

953
01:35:05,540 --> 01:35:07,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng greater human rights

954
01:35:07,700 --> 01:35:09,620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: safeguards in the

955
01:35:09,620 --> 01:35:11,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Constitution, which the

956
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Commission on Human Rights is

957
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: duty-bound to

958
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ensure

959
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:19,620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and protect. And bahagi

960
01:35:19,620 --> 01:35:21,440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po ng efforts na yun,

961
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: aside from yung legal

962
01:35:23,580 --> 01:35:24,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: duty, ay yung

963
01:35:24,900 --> 01:35:27,380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: responsibility to pass on,

964
01:35:27,620 --> 01:35:28,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung lessons

965
01:35:28,860 --> 01:35:31,380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: painted in blood, noong

966
01:35:31,380 --> 01:35:32,940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ayaw nating maulit muli.

967
01:35:33,260 --> 01:35:35,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sana po ay makakuha tayo

968
01:35:35,540 --> 01:35:37,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng update as soon as possible.

969
01:35:37,860 --> 01:35:38,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May this representation

970
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be furnished and update

971
01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:43,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: once available, if

972
01:35:43,540 --> 01:35:45,560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it is received by the Commission on Human Rights.

973
01:35:46,660 --> 01:35:47,460
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker,

974
01:35:47,780 --> 01:35:49,600
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: HRVVMC commits to

975
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: work closely with UP

976
01:35:50,940 --> 01:35:53,640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for the immediate resolution on the matter

977
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of the site of the museum

978
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: within the framework of the HRVVMC

979
01:35:57,620 --> 01:35:59,980
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: UP 2018

980
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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: [unclear] agreement.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, continuous po ito, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: hindi po titigil

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ang Commission at ang

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: HRVVMC na magkaroon po tayo

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ng museum

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: para po sa ating victims

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ng martial law.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And to clarify, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, this is different from the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Freedom Memorial Museum Gallery,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which is not the permanent

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: installation yet, but it is

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: essentially the temporary

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: site for

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the artifacts

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the educational

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: materials

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to martial law. Is this correct?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po. It is temporary, Madam

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May I ask how many visitors

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gallery aim to service

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: monthly and annually?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And may assessment na po ba on the success

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of these events at paano po ito

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pwedeng ma-improve?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, since

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: launching the Freedom Memorial Museum

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Gallery and establishing

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: its regular services, the Commission

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: has monitored performance through

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: client feedback and satisfaction

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: surveys. In 2024,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: museum services achieved

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: a 99.5

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: satisfaction ratings.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: This high standard continued

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: in 2025 with client

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: feedback reflecting consistent service

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: quality and continuous

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: improvement resulting in a

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 100% satisfaction

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: rating, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron po ba tayong datos

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tungkol sa ilan pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga bisita, yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakakita na

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at nakapunta na sa gallery?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How about kung may average

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: monthly visitors

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po to if that data

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is available? Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: yes, meron po. We will

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: provide na lamang po with the data.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero ngayon po ay

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: more than 300 clients

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: na po ang ating na-reach

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for 2026.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: how were, kamusta po yung most recent

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gallery visits and tours guided

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by martial law victims?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May, aside po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from the positive assessment, meron po

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bang substantive feedback?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We're still collating po, Madam

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Speaker, with regards to

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: po sa feedback po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the proper time, this representation

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will move to amend

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to restore the cuts made

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and to ensure a sufficient budget

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for human rights protection

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01:38:38,620 --> 01:38:40,580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and education, including

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: safeguards against red-tagging, torture

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and other abuses perpetrated

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by state forces, and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: support for the completion and operation

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the permanent martial law museum.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation continues

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to advocate,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the budget of the Commission

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on Human Rights, as we have

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: manifested during its budget

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: briefing, and of course,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marami pong mga programa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kinakailangan na may

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pondo na hindi naman po kalakhan

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01:39:13,420 --> 01:39:14,780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na maaari pong

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: i-grant sa Commission on Human

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Rights, para po hindi lang

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01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:20,720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga direly necessary

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: projects na ma-implement nila,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero kahit yung mode of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: operations na inaasahan natin,

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01:39:26,740 --> 01:39:28,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa Commission on Human Rights,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: such as, for example, not only the visiting

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of detention centers, pero kung paano

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nila na-ensure that

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga bahay pag-asa at iba pa,

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01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they're up to par with the standards

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01:39:39,060 --> 01:39:40,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: provided by law.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Gusto natin magawa ng

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Commission on Human Rights yung kanilang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mandato at supportado po,

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01:39:47,740 --> 01:39:49,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi lang ang national office,

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01:39:49,420 --> 01:39:51,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero kahit yung mga regional offices

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nila sa mga operations na ito.

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01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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01:39:55,460 --> 01:39:56,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: continues to support

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01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the budget of the CHR

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we hope for

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: addition at the proper

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: time which the representation and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: many of our colleagues here

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01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will also move and support

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01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the support as well.

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01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:16,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So that's all, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:18,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po ulit sa Commission

1108
01:40:18,700 --> 01:40:20,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on Human Rights and

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01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:21,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the good sponsor.

1110
01:40:26,740 --> 01:40:27,940
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,040
Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Motion to suspend, Madam Speaker.

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01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:37,600
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended.

1113
01:40:56,740 --> 01:40:58,960
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed.

1114
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:00,240
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

1115
01:41:01,140 --> 01:41:03,620
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

1116
01:41:03,620 --> 01:41:06,080
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Representative Presley De Jesus

1117
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,880
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the PHILRECA Party-list

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01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,460
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:11,900
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative De Jesus

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby recognized to interpellate.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:18,840
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Since all the questions

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: already been asked, no?

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01:41:20,860 --> 01:41:22,180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, Madam Speaker,

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01:41:22,180 --> 01:41:24,580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more

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01:41:24,580 --> 01:41:26,600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: members for the minority,

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01:41:26,740 --> 01:41:28,740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpellate,

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01:41:29,340 --> 01:41:30,820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the period of sponsorship

1130
01:41:32,500 --> 01:41:34,620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate for the budget

1131
01:41:34,620 --> 01:41:36,780
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the Commission

1132
01:41:36,780 --> 01:41:38,740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: on Human Rights. I so move,

1133
01:41:39,020 --> 01:41:39,580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker.

1134
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:45,480
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker,

1135
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,980
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on the part of the majority,

1136
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,160
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: we join the minority

1137
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:52,660
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: in the motion to terminate

1138
01:41:52,660 --> 01:41:54,320
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the period of interpellation

1139
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:56,120
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on the proposed budget

1140
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:56,720
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the

1141
01:41:56,740 --> 01:41:58,140
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Commission on Human Rights.

1142
01:42:01,620 --> 01:42:03,380
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Including all its attached agencies.

1143
01:42:12,300 --> 01:42:14,320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to clarify

1144
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,860
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: with Representative De Jesus

1145
01:42:15,860 --> 01:42:18,080
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: if your motion includes

1146
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:19,680
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the Commission

1147
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,140
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: on Human Rights Violations

1148
01:42:22,140 --> 01:42:24,320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Victims Memorial Commission.

1149
01:42:24,980 --> 01:42:26,620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes, Madam Speaker.

1150
01:42:26,740 --> 01:42:29,500
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, let me reiterate

1151
01:42:29,500 --> 01:42:31,980
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: my motion to termination.

1152
01:42:31,980 --> 01:42:33,100
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker,

1153
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:34,360
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members

1154
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:35,660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority,

1155
01:42:35,660 --> 01:42:37,220
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpellate,

1156
01:42:37,220 --> 01:42:38,180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate

1157
01:42:38,180 --> 01:42:39,660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the period of sponsorship

1158
01:42:39,660 --> 01:42:41,340
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate for the budget

1159
01:42:41,340 --> 01:42:42,860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the Commission on Human Rights

1160
01:42:42,860 --> 01:42:44,420
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and attached agencies.

1161
01:42:44,420 --> 01:42:47,020
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Madam Speaker.

1162
01:42:47,020 --> 01:42:50,020
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Including the . . .

1163
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:06,540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker,

1164
01:43:06,540 --> 01:43:10,780
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: including Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

1165
01:43:10,780 --> 01:43:12,060
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Madam Speaker.

1166
01:43:12,060 --> 01:43:13,420
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say?

1167
01:43:23,420 --> 01:43:24,540
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker,

1168
01:43:24,540 --> 01:43:26,540
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on the part of the majority,

1169
01:43:26,540 --> 01:43:29,140
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: we join the minority in the motion

1170
01:43:29,140 --> 01:43:31,420
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: to terminate the period of interpellation

1171
01:43:31,420 --> 01:43:33,340
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the proposed budget

1172
01:43:33,340 --> 01:43:35,220
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the Commission on Human Rights

1173
01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:36,980
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: including the

1174
01:43:36,980 --> 01:43:39,940
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

1175
01:43:39,940 --> 01:43:42,460
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate

1176
01:43:42,460 --> 01:43:44,840
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the interpellations on the proposed budget

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01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,860
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the Commission on Human Rights

1178
01:43:46,860 --> 01:43:50,940
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: including Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

1179
01:43:50,940 --> 01:43:52,420
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection?

1180
01:43:52,420 --> 01:43:54,200
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none.

1181
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:55,920
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations

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01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,160
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: on the proposed budget of said

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01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,940
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: agency is hereby terminated.

1184
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, and to our distinguished

1185
01:44:04,300 --> 01:44:06,680
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: colleagues, maraming, maraming salamat po.

1186
01:44:07,900 --> 01:44:08,340
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Noted.

1187
01:44:08,460 --> 01:44:09,340
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Motion to suspend.

1188
01:44:09,700 --> 01:44:10,460
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: And for the purpose, Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the said department, namely Secretary Henry Rhoel Aguda; Chief of Staff Maria Teresa Magno Garcia; Undersecretary Heherson Asiddao.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Undersecretary Sarah Maria Sison; Undersecretary Leandro Angelo Aguirre; Undersecretary David Almirol Jr.; Undersecretary Leonido Pulido III; Undersecretary Rodil Aniban.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Undersecretary Christian Mark Guingcangco; Assistant Secretary Melvyn Carlo Barroa; Assistant Secretary Ryan Martin [unclear]; Assistant Secretary Maria Victoria Castro; Assistant Secretary Celine Melanie Dee; Assistant Secretary Pinky Jimenez; and Assistant Secretary Emmy Lou Versoza-Delfin.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Likewise representing the Cybercrime Investigation and Coordinating Center, Executive Director Renato Paraiso; the National Privacy Commission, Privacy Commissioner and Chairman Johann Carlos Barcena; and the National Telecommunications Commission, Commissioner Ella Blanca Lopez.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of DICT and its attached agencies. Welcome to the House of Representatives.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: And with regard to the motion of the Majority Leader, is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: I move, Madam Speaker, that we recognize Vice Chair Brian Poe, the vice chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Representative Vice Chair Brian Poe, [unclear]. Of course, the vice chairman of the Committee on Appropriations is hereby recognized to begin the sponsorship of the budget of DICT and its attached agencies. Vice Chair may now proceed with his sponsorship speech.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I happily address my colleagues here in plenary. I rise to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies. For fiscal year 2027, DICT and its attached agencies are proposing a total expenditure program of 19.49 billion pesos, an increase of 1.27 billion, or 7%, from fiscal year 2026.

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01:54:38,320 --> 01:55:04,880
Rep. Brian Poe: A significant portion of this budget goes to ICT infrastructure. The ICT Systems and Information Infrastructure Program receives 3.85 billion, as well as 1.13 billion for the National Broadband Plan, up by 69.3%, and 949.5 million for the National Government Data Center, up 27%.

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01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:32,160
Rep. Brian Poe: These investments are already producing results. The National Fiber Backbone has laid 3,026 kilometers of fiber; 59 of 136 backbone nodes have been activated. And the Philippine Digital Infrastructure Project has an estimated cost of 16.1 billion, with 2.16 billion programmed for fiscal year 2027.

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01:55:32,160 --> 01:56:00,550
Rep. Brian Poe: For connectivity, DICT reported 29,091 active free Wi-Fi points across 11,839—sorry, I stand corrected—11,836 locations as of July 2026. The Free Public Internet Access Program has 5 billion pesos in automatic appropriations for fiscal year 2027.

1203
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:10,830
Rep. Brian Poe: Our digital government infrastructure is also operating at a significant scale. The eGov PH application has surpassed 61 million downloads

1204
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:19,070
Rep. Brian Poe: and 56 million verified accounts, while eGov DX has

1205
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:30,000
Rep. Brian Poe: processed more than 1.2 billion transactions and integrated over 1,300 government e-services.

1206
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Rep. Brian Poe: Cybersecurity, the National Security Operations Center, has expanded its coverage from 10 government agencies in 2022 to 99 agencies as of August 2026, monitoring approximately 6.7 billion security alerts.

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01:56:48,760 --> 01:57:09,260
Rep. Brian Poe: But as we support these investments, we must also look closely at implementation. DICT's fiscal year 2025 obligation rate was 61.7%, leaving approximately 9.16 billion in unused appropriations.

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Rep. Brian Poe: For the ICT Systems and Information Infrastructure Program, obligation was 43.5%. Disbursement was 22.6%.

1209
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:27,360
Rep. Brian Poe: These figures remind us that the measure of budget is not only what we appropriate, but what is actually delivered.

1210
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Rep. Brian Poe: And while we recognize the progress made, we also recognize that there are many shortcomings still, not only in cybersecurity, but also in combating fake news and other areas of digital safety and governance.

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Rep. Brian Poe: These are challenges that will require continued work and scrutiny.

1212
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Rep. Brian Poe: And while many may look at it as an opportunity to reduce funding for the agency, I see this as a challenge to increase funding where it is critically necessary.

1213
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Rep. Brian Poe: These programs are of the utmost importance for the development of our country in this new age of innovation, AI, cybersecurity, and other threats.

1214
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:16,360
Rep. Brian Poe: So, Madam Speaker, with that, we are ready to take the questions of our distinguished colleagues, and I thank you.

1215
01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,420
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

1216
01:58:21,740 --> 01:58:37,700
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal of BH Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:45,720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good evening, Madam Chair.

1219
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:49,600
Rep. Brian Poe: Good evening to my distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good evening.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And good evening to the DICT.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: On the mandate of DICT, distinguished colleague, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Chair, I want to start with DICT's mandate.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT is supposed to lead our national ICT agenda.

1224
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And under Republic Act 12254,

1225
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: we have an even bigger responsibility for whole of government digitalization and interoperability.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, distinguished colleague, Mr. Secretary, are you actually fulfilling that mandate?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how?

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01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Because DICT should be more than Wi-Fi and connectivity.

1229
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: You should also make sure that government uses technology efficiently.

1230
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: For example, are we oversubscribed in cloud services?

1231
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:56,100
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do you know how much cloud capacity government is paying?

1232
01:59:57,100 --> 01:59:59,980
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paying for versus actual average and peak?

1233
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,000
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What about internet services? Are we paying for more bandwidth than government actually uses?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: During our previous hearing, you told us Republic Act 12254 could save government at least 30% by eliminating repetitive common systems and subscriptions.

1235
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Have you already identified these duplications? How much can government actually save? And when will we see those savings?

1236
02:00:35,540 --> 02:00:44,380
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Those are very valid questions from my colleague. Let's go through it one by one very quickly.

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02:00:44,380 --> 02:00:54,300
Rep. Brian Poe: So yes, Madam Speaker, DICT is implementing its mandate beyond the connectivity and moving towards a whole of government.

1238
02:00:54,460 --> 02:01:06,280
Rep. Brian Poe: And that is currently being implemented through the DICT and its attached agencies.

1239
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:16,080
Rep. Brian Poe: For fiscal year 2027 alone, the department targets integration of 40 agencies with the Citizen Frontline Delivery Services Platform,

1240
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:24,440
Rep. Brian Poe: 30 agencies, each of which with HCMIS and IFMIS, and 30 agencies with OFMIS.

1241
02:01:24,460 --> 02:01:27,620
Rep. Brian Poe: And that includes the Online Public Service Portal and Procurement Systems.

1242
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:34,100
Rep. Brian Poe: Regarding the concern on cloud and bandwidth and other common ICT requirements,

1243
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Rep. Brian Poe: the objective of e-Government Act is precisely to give government greater visibility over what common requirements exist

1244
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:46,080
Rep. Brian Poe: and to avoid paying repeatedly for the same capabilities.

1245
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:54,080
Rep. Brian Poe: So the management mechanism that we have here, and its ability to validate across

1246
02:01:54,460 --> 02:01:59,460
Rep. Brian Poe: 450 national agencies for compliance, is established within the eGov portfolio.

1247
02:01:59,460 --> 02:02:10,580
Rep. Brian Poe: But we should not complain or I mean we should not claim, sorry, rather, that DICT is oversubscribed in terms of its cloud or bandwidth

1248
02:02:10,580 --> 02:02:18,880
Rep. Brian Poe: because the submissions presently available to DICT do not yet establish government-wide average and peak utilization

1249
02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:22,580
Rep. Brian Poe: across or against total contracted capacity.

1250
02:02:22,580 --> 02:02:24,080
Rep. Brian Poe: So with that, we can...

1251
02:02:24,460 --> 02:02:29,500
Rep. Brian Poe: We can commit to Congress to establish that a baseline through the inventory, portfolio management,

1252
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:36,020
Rep. Brian Poe: and interoperability mechanisms are being implemented under RA 12254.

1253
02:02:36,380 --> 02:02:42,800
Rep. Brian Poe: The 30% figure that my colleague brought up, Madam Speaker, is a very valid number to bring up

1254
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,840
Rep. Brian Poe: because we did make that commitment.

1255
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:51,540
Rep. Brian Poe: And the figure, therefore, should be treated at this stage as a potential cost avoidance estimate

1256
02:02:52,340 --> 02:02:53,540
Rep. Brian Poe: from eliminating duplicative...

1257
02:02:54,460 --> 02:03:00,480
Rep. Brian Poe: ...common systems and subscriptions, not yet as realized savings.

1258
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:03,320
Rep. Brian Poe: So really, this is the target that we hope to hit.

1259
02:03:04,540 --> 02:03:08,980
Rep. Brian Poe: And yes, as of the last committee hearing that we had, Madam Speaker,

1260
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Rep. Brian Poe: I do remember that the DICT is actively identifying where those duplications exist

1261
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Rep. Brian Poe: and we're progressively moving towards a consolidated system, common ICT investments,

1262
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:23,920
Rep. Brian Poe: as agencies transition.

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Rep. Brian Poe: So I believe that we're really targeting that by the end of this administration,

1264
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:36,500
Rep. Brian Poe: we have a more centralized EGov system.

1265
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:39,880
Rep. Brian Poe: I hope that answers my colleague's questions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Chair.

1267
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:49,140
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do we already have a number on the target in terms of the 30% savings that we will generate?

1268
02:03:49,620 --> 02:03:51,120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do we already have a figure?

1269
02:03:52,060 --> 02:03:53,440
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, may I clarify?

1270
02:03:53,660 --> 02:03:54,440
Rep. Brian Poe: A number on how much?

1271
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:55,680
Rep. Brian Poe: How much has been saved already?

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02:03:55,900 --> 02:03:56,180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes.

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02:03:56,640 --> 02:03:58,960
Rep. Brian Poe: Let me get back to you on that.

1274
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:08,620
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, the DICT's claim is that they don't have a set number yet,

1275
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,220
Rep. Brian Poe: although they are studying it.

1276
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:15,520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is there a target number in terms of savings?

1277
02:04:16,100 --> 02:04:19,320
Rep. Brian Poe: For this year or for fiscal year 2027?

1278
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:20,920
Rep. Roberto Nazal: For this year.

1279
02:04:21,260 --> 02:04:21,720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: For this year.

1280
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:22,740
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And fiscal year 2027.

1281
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:34,700
Rep. Brian Poe: But that's for this.

1282
02:04:35,700 --> 02:04:38,040
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But for this year, we'll allow it.

1283
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:39,120
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay.

1284
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:42,900
Rep. Brian Poe: Because this is a new law, a newly passed law,

1285
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:47,720
Rep. Brian Poe: the actual estimated savings are for fiscal year 2027,

1286
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:52,720
Rep. Brian Poe: and we're looking at, if I'm not mistaken, 15 billion pesos in estimated savings

1287
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:53,720
Rep. Brian Poe: by removing

1288
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:55,360
Rep. Brian Poe: By removing these duplications.

1289
02:04:56,900 --> 02:05:04,020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Are we also looking at using AI to monitor all these systems?

1290
02:05:04,020 --> 02:05:05,020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So that...

1291
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:11,160
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, DICT can confirm that we are using AI.

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02:05:12,140 --> 02:05:14,540
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

1293
02:05:15,860 --> 02:05:17,820
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I'll go to my next question.

1294
02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:21,860
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, during the previous hearing,

1295
02:05:21,860 --> 02:05:29,120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished Sponsor, I also raised that the DICT has a 9% obligation rate.

1296
02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:33,360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: We are told now that this has improved to around 27%.

1297
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:35,200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is this correct?

1298
02:05:36,340 --> 02:05:39,860
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, Madam Speaker, I can confirm we've increased to 27%.

1299
02:05:40,620 --> 02:05:43,200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, okay naman po na hindi na 9%.

1300
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:49,960
Rep. Roberto Nazal: 27% na, pero I hope we shouldn't be happy with this, no?

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02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:51,540
Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is still very low.

1302
02:05:51,860 --> 02:05:58,800
Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I ask, why, what is stopping us from improving on the 27%?

1303
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:00,420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano ba ang problema natin?

1304
02:06:00,580 --> 02:06:03,120
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I completely agree with my colleague.

1305
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,440
Rep. Brian Poe: 27% is not something to celebrate,

1306
02:06:05,700 --> 02:06:08,600
Rep. Brian Poe: especially when there are so many other agencies that need funding.

1307
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Rep. Brian Poe: But it is an improvement.

1308
02:06:10,980 --> 02:06:14,540
Rep. Brian Poe: And I'll list down the things that are making it difficult.

1309
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:16,840
Rep. Brian Poe: One is procurement delays.

1310
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:21,840
Rep. Brian Poe: Two is the technical complexity of what DICT's management,

1311
02:06:21,860 --> 02:06:23,880
Rep. Brian Poe: mandate, puts them in charge of.

1312
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:26,620
Rep. Brian Poe: Three is the timing of the release of funds.

1313
02:06:27,100 --> 02:06:30,360
Rep. Brian Poe: Many of the releases were quite late this year for DICT.

1314
02:06:30,820 --> 02:06:34,860
Rep. Brian Poe: And so, many of the funds are just now being released.

1315
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:38,360
Rep. Brian Poe: We also have a limited specialized manpower.

1316
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:45,420
Rep. Brian Poe: Unlike many other agencies, DICT requires a lot of specialized manpower, Madam Speaker.

1317
02:06:45,420 --> 02:06:50,780
Rep. Brian Poe: And with that, we actually do need to increase the manpower of the agency

1318
02:06:50,780 --> 02:06:51,620
Rep. Brian Poe: in order to...

1319
02:06:51,860 --> 02:06:56,460
Rep. Brian Poe: ...increase its absorptive capacity and the services it provides.

1320
02:06:56,460 --> 02:07:05,360
Rep. Brian Poe: Lastly, PDIP had two unsuccessful biddings and had to restructure its major procurement package.

1321
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:09,360
Rep. Brian Poe: And all of that combined leads to 27%.

1322
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:15,220
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What obligation rate, Mr. Sponsor, are we looking at for December 31?

1323
02:07:21,860 --> 02:07:38,360
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, the agency is optimistically pointing out that we're looking at 90% completion by December.

1324
02:07:38,900 --> 02:07:46,440
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, are we saying that considering what you've mentioned, Madam Chair and Mr. Sponsor,

1325
02:07:47,540 --> 02:07:50,120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: maaayos na po natin yung procurement issues,

1326
02:07:50,900 --> 02:07:51,720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: all the funnels,

1327
02:07:51,860 --> 02:07:53,900
Rep. Roberto Nazal: kung saan po tayo nagkaka-roadblock?

1328
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:56,520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: In terms of technical manpower,

1329
02:07:57,200 --> 02:08:00,020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: we will have all the technical manpower prior to that?

1330
02:08:03,300 --> 02:08:06,460
Rep. Brian Poe: Just to clarify the target,

1331
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:08,940
Rep. Brian Poe: as of today, we're at 35% already.

1332
02:08:09,420 --> 02:08:09,980
Rep. Brian Poe: As of today.

1333
02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:13,120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And we are expecting how much? 90?

1334
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:14,320
Rep. Brian Poe: 90%.

1335
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:16,640
Rep. Brian Poe: And if you think about it,

1336
02:08:16,660 --> 02:08:18,480
Rep. Brian Poe: when we had the initial data to today,

1337
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:21,480
Rep. Brian Poe: we already moved up 9%.

1338
02:08:21,860 --> 02:08:23,000
Rep. Brian Poe: More or less.

1339
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:24,780
Rep. Brian Poe: If we continue at this rate,

1340
02:08:24,860 --> 02:08:27,200
Rep. Brian Poe: we could possibly hit our target of 90%.

1341
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:30,720
Rep. Brian Poe: One of the things that the agency had to deal with

1342
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,920
Rep. Brian Poe: was really just waiting for the download of funding.

1343
02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:38,420
Rep. Brian Poe: And so, there was time to already streamline some of the processes

1344
02:08:38,420 --> 02:08:41,940
Rep. Brian Poe: for the release of these funds and the activation on the ground.

1345
02:08:42,180 --> 02:08:45,280
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what you're saying, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

1346
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:50,360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: is that maayos na po tayo in terms of the procurement process

1347
02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:51,840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: and all the technical manpower.

1348
02:08:51,860 --> 02:08:55,640
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But our main problem right now is the DBM.

1349
02:08:56,700 --> 02:09:01,120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how long, and kailan natin natatanggap yung pera?

1350
02:09:01,940 --> 02:09:02,480
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is this correct?

1351
02:09:10,540 --> 02:09:14,880
Rep. Brian Poe: The reason why is not necessarily DBM.

1352
02:09:15,180 --> 02:09:17,860
Rep. Brian Poe: It turns out it's because the awarding of major projects

1353
02:09:17,860 --> 02:09:20,860
Rep. Brian Poe: to the DICT

1354
02:09:21,860 --> 02:09:23,260
Rep. Brian Poe: will take place within this quarter.

1355
02:09:23,940 --> 02:09:25,580
Rep. Brian Poe: So, once those have been awarded already,

1356
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:27,320
Rep. Brian Poe: that would be immediately dispersed.

1357
02:09:27,500 --> 02:09:30,560
Rep. Brian Poe: But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the DBM.

1358
02:09:30,980 --> 02:09:34,440
Rep. Roberto Nazal: When were these projects supposed to be procured?

1359
02:09:35,580 --> 02:09:36,940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: When did they start?

1360
02:09:49,900 --> 02:09:51,020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But when did it start?

1361
02:09:51,860 --> 02:10:06,400
Rep. Brian Poe: At the start of the year

1362
02:10:14,060 --> 02:10:20,140
Rep. Brian Poe: So, PDIP, which constitutes 4 billion pesos, Madam Speaker,

1363
02:10:20,140 --> 02:10:21,260
Rep. Brian Poe: is a big chunk of it.

1364
02:10:21,260 --> 02:10:22,920
Rep. Brian Poe: And the reason why it was delayed

1365
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:25,640
Rep. Brian Poe: was because earlier this year, dear colleague,

1366
02:10:26,160 --> 02:10:27,540
Rep. Brian Poe: they actually had a failed bidding.

1367
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:31,660
Rep. Brian Poe: So, now it's proceeding, but it's proceeding in October.

1368
02:10:32,340 --> 02:10:35,380
Rep. Brian Poe: So, that's why the 4 billion will be released quite later.

1369
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:38,180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But this was a project procurement for 2026 or 2025?

1370
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:43,460
Rep. Brian Poe: It's a continuing from 2025 to 2026.

1371
02:10:44,380 --> 02:10:44,980
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay.

1372
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:48,000
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Let me go to my next question.

1373
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:49,940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Having said that,

1374
02:10:50,420 --> 02:10:51,240
Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT's

1375
02:10:51,260 --> 02:10:54,200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: absorptive capacity remains a problem,

1376
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:57,380
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I also want to be fair to the agency.

1377
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:02,960
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi lahat ng hindi nababayaran ay necessarily Absorptive Capacity problem.

1378
02:11:04,180 --> 02:11:07,360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT's September 15 submission says

1379
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:09,720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: that as of August 31,

1380
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:15,800
Rep. Roberto Nazal: you had approximately 1.29 billion in accounts payable.

1381
02:11:16,200 --> 02:11:21,060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Of that, approximately 1.049 billion pertains to

1382
02:11:21,060 --> 02:11:26,560
Rep. Roberto Nazal: valid and duly supported obligations from 2024 and 2025

1383
02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:29,560
Rep. Roberto Nazal: that are already due and demandable.

1384
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:36,060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: You also say additional NCA from DBM is needed to settle these obligations.

1385
02:11:36,660 --> 02:11:40,060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, for this 1.049 billion,

1386
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:44,660
Rep. Roberto Nazal: is the problem now lack of cash authority from DBM

1387
02:11:44,860 --> 02:11:47,460
Rep. Roberto Nazal: rather than lack of appropriation?

1388
02:11:51,060 --> 02:12:04,260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: How much additional NCA do you need today to settle all valid, due, and demandable obligations?

1389
02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:20,620
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, I can confirm that there is a payable of 1.049 billion and this, actually, we do need an additional allocation.

1390
02:12:20,620 --> 02:12:22,620
Rep. Brian Poe: In order to pay for.

1391
02:12:24,620 --> 02:12:29,620
Rep. Brian Poe: And these are considered as milestone payments, Madam Speaker.

1392
02:12:32,620 --> 02:12:36,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker,

1393
02:12:38,620 --> 02:12:43,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: if these are already valid, duly supported, and due and demandable obligations,

1394
02:12:43,620 --> 02:12:46,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: and DICT submits the complete requirements,

1395
02:12:46,620 --> 02:12:49,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang assumption po natin dito is complete na yung requirements nito.

1396
02:12:50,620 --> 02:12:51,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Everything is complete.

1397
02:12:54,620 --> 02:13:01,620
Rep. Brian Poe: So, Madam Speaker, I can confirm that all the requirements needed to request for additional funding for NCA from DBM

1398
02:13:01,620 --> 02:13:05,620
Rep. Brian Poe: is complete and it's actually subject for approval already.

1399
02:13:06,620 --> 02:13:07,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what is the reason?

1400
02:13:08,620 --> 02:13:14,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What are they saying is the reason why hindi pa ito nababayaran?

1401
02:13:14,620 --> 02:13:15,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bakit po?

1402
02:13:15,620 --> 02:13:17,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What is the reason for the delay?

1403
02:13:18,620 --> 02:13:19,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Why is there no NCA?

1404
02:13:45,500 --> 02:13:46,600
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Could you pause my time, please?

1405
02:13:48,100 --> 02:13:48,400
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay.

1406
02:13:48,620 --> 02:13:56,860
Rep. Brian Poe: The documents were submitted first semester of this year—sorry, third quarter of this year, dear colleague.

1407
02:13:57,100 --> 02:14:02,380
Rep. Brian Poe: So that probably explains why until now the release has not yet been approved.

1408
02:14:02,980 --> 02:14:05,560
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So that's what I do not understand.

1409
02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:15,120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bakit po inabot tayo ng third quarter of this year to complete the requirements for something that is due and demandable since 2024?

1410
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:18,180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you make me understand?

1411
02:14:34,620 --> 02:14:40,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Why? Why wasn't it submitted? We already knew that this was going to be a project.

1412
02:14:45,620 --> 02:14:47,620
Rep. Brian Poe: So it turns out that

1413
02:14:48,620 --> 02:14:56,880
Rep. Brian Poe: The reason why there was a delay in the submission of the necessary documents was they needed to compile the requirements from the suppliers, etc.

1414
02:14:57,060 --> 02:14:59,980
Rep. Brian Poe: And they were only able to do so later this year.

1415
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,720
Rep. Brian Poe: So, the delay is a mix of agency as well as suppliers.

1416
02:15:11,340 --> 02:15:21,000
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What I cannot understand is that the DICT should be the number one digital agency in our country.

1417
02:15:21,620 --> 02:15:24,100
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kayo po ang lead sa lahat.

1418
02:15:24,540 --> 02:15:28,820
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, dapat po, kung meron man madi-delay, hindi po dapat kayo.

1419
02:15:28,820 --> 02:15:32,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Dear colleague, I completely understand where you're coming from.

1420
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:39,820
Rep. Brian Poe: If there's any agency that should move quickly on a digitalized procurement and documentation process, it should be the DICT.

1421
02:15:41,200 --> 02:15:46,820
Rep. Brian Poe: So, I believe I can get a commitment from the agency that they will improve their procurement processes.

1422
02:15:48,220 --> 02:15:55,580
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Saka po, you know, distinguished sponsor, you know how easy it is now to review everything. We have AI.

1423
02:15:57,200 --> 02:15:58,580
Rep. Brian Poe: But I hope...

1424
02:15:58,820 --> 02:16:05,020
Rep. Brian Poe: I know that the DICT is going to work towards better digitalization in terms of its bureaucracy.

1425
02:16:05,540 --> 02:16:13,200
Rep. Brian Poe: Pero sana din pati yung suppliers ng DICT, dito tayo abot sa compatibility ng data.

1426
02:16:13,740 --> 02:16:20,480
Rep. Brian Poe: So, sana yung mga suppliers din ng DICT are up to standard in terms of their digitization para wala ng bottleneck.

1427
02:16:20,980 --> 02:16:21,940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes, I agree.

1428
02:16:21,940 --> 02:16:28,760
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But of course, my understanding is that if you look at the way the DICT is paying,

1429
02:16:28,820 --> 02:16:33,800
Rep. Roberto Nazal: walang supplier na magsusurvive sa ganitong sitwasyon.

1430
02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:39,660
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, the suppliers are effectively front-loading everything.

1431
02:16:41,080 --> 02:16:50,320
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I understand that this disincentivizes some of our suppliers and potential investors

1432
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:56,640
Rep. Brian Poe: if this is how our lead digital agency deals with its documentation and disbursement processes.

1433
02:16:56,640 --> 02:16:58,120
Rep. Brian Poe: But rest assured,

1434
02:16:58,820 --> 02:17:04,840
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, within this year, this outstanding balance should be settled by the DICT.

1435
02:17:11,080 --> 02:17:19,520
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, if I may also note that 90% of cash downloaded by the DBM has already been utilized.

1436
02:17:19,520 --> 02:17:23,880
Rep. Brian Poe: So, it's really just a question of whether or not the funding is downloaded.

1437
02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:27,220
Rep. Brian Poe: Once it is, it's immediately utilized by the agency.

1438
02:17:27,340 --> 02:17:28,520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, it's really a factor.

1439
02:17:28,820 --> 02:17:29,360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, it's really a funding issue.

1440
02:17:31,360 --> 02:17:35,120
Rep. Brian Poe: Yeah, I would say that a big chunk of it would be.

1441
02:17:36,180 --> 02:17:41,220
Rep. Brian Poe: And I hope that this can be streamlined on the agency side.

1442
02:17:41,220 --> 02:17:46,020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, let us now go to earmarked funds.

1443
02:17:47,500 --> 02:17:50,300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

1444
02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:55,320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: separate from the regular budget of DICT,

1445
02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:57,940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: ano naman ang absorptive capacity?

1446
02:17:58,820 --> 02:18:02,100
Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng DICT when it comes to earmarked funds?

1447
02:18:06,660 --> 02:18:11,840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Lagi kasi namin kayong pinaglalaban because digitalization needs money.

1448
02:18:12,580 --> 02:18:13,360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And I know that.

1449
02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:20,300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And if we should be spending on anything, it should be, we should prioritize the digital infrastructure.

1450
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:28,280
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pero kung may malaking problema, yung earmarked balance naman at hindi ninyo nagagastos, ano ba ang problema?

1451
02:18:28,820 --> 02:18:37,100
Rep. Brian Poe: In terms of the earmarked funds, Madam Speaker, we're talking about the free Wi-Fi.

1452
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:42,440
Rep. Brian Poe: And that's at 61% in terms of utilization.

1453
02:18:44,180 --> 02:18:50,320
Rep. Brian Poe: So, that speaks to the absorptive capacity of the agency to be able to utilize the earmarked funds.

1454
02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:52,100
Rep. Brian Poe: But yes, 61%.

1455
02:18:52,740 --> 02:18:58,420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And that is what I cannot reconcile, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

1456
02:18:58,820 --> 02:19:05,420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Twelve digital systems hosted on the E-Gov PH were temporarily disabled

1457
02:19:05,420 --> 02:19:09,480
Rep. Roberto Nazal: because DICT could not pay for cloud server space.

1458
02:19:10,480 --> 02:19:12,880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Twelve government systems went down.

1459
02:19:14,280 --> 02:19:15,340
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, meron kayong pera.

1460
02:19:16,140 --> 02:19:17,060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paano po nangyari ito?

1461
02:19:17,980 --> 02:19:19,000
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano ba nangyari talaga?

1462
02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:21,080
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you explain?

1463
02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:23,280
Rep. Roberto Nazal: How much was unpaid?

1464
02:19:24,100 --> 02:19:24,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: To whom?

1465
02:19:25,140 --> 02:19:26,720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: How long were the systems down?

1466
02:19:26,720 --> 02:19:27,140
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Down.

1467
02:19:27,700 --> 02:19:28,720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And was this all...

1468
02:19:28,820 --> 02:19:29,860
Rep. Roberto Nazal: It's also an NCA problem.

1469
02:19:47,980 --> 02:19:49,360
Rep. Brian Poe: Yung time,

1470
02:19:49,460 --> 02:19:57,180
Rep. Brian Poe: It went down because, Madam Speaker, dear colleague, we had a surge of 700% in terms of its use.

1471
02:19:57,720 --> 02:19:58,800
Rep. Brian Poe: So, the systems weren't...

1472
02:19:58,820 --> 02:20:01,100
Rep. Brian Poe: We weren't able to handle that much.

1473
02:20:02,140 --> 02:20:05,060
Rep. Brian Poe: And therefore, the systems went down for a short period of time.

1474
02:20:10,140 --> 02:20:20,740
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, it was only down for five hours on day one and six hours on day two.

1475
02:20:21,580 --> 02:20:28,060
Rep. Brian Poe: But this is definitely because no one was able to predict a 700% surge in the use.

1476
02:20:29,700 --> 02:20:33,320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paano po ba nangyari yung surge?

1477
02:20:33,800 --> 02:20:41,220
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I mean, during that day or the day before that or the month before, ilan na ba yung gumagamit?

1478
02:20:50,860 --> 02:20:54,500
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, was it only on that day na talagang nagkaroon ng surge?

1479
02:20:55,080 --> 02:20:56,880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And the capacity could not absorb it?

1480
02:20:57,340 --> 02:20:58,660
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, it...

1481
02:20:58,660 --> 02:20:59,260
Rep. Brian Poe: It turns...

1482
02:20:59,260 --> 02:21:10,440
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Speaker, it turns out that the cloud services ended up running out of credits because of the overuse.

1483
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:13,140
Rep. Brian Poe: And that's how we ended up with that surge.

1484
02:21:14,620 --> 02:21:15,400
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Running out of credit.

1485
02:21:16,020 --> 02:21:18,340
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, that means, hindi po natin...

1486
02:21:18,340 --> 02:21:25,300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: We didn't have enough cash or money allotted for the capacity.

1487
02:21:25,700 --> 02:21:27,440
Rep. Brian Poe: We didn't, Madam Speaker...

1488
02:21:28,660 --> 02:21:38,520
Rep. Brian Poe: We didn't have enough budget enough for the surge that basically no one within the agency predicted that there would be a 700% surge in the use.

1489
02:21:38,960 --> 02:21:42,640
Rep. Brian Poe: And therefore, the cloud services that were contracted weren't enough.

1490
02:21:42,800 --> 02:21:48,340
Rep. Brian Poe: And therefore, we needed to procure more in order to adapt to the capacity required.

1491
02:21:49,740 --> 02:21:55,420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, that's where I'm puzzled, Distinguished Sponsor.

1492
02:21:56,800 --> 02:22:02,700
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nag-down ang 12 government systems dahil kulang tayo sa pambayad sa cloud.

1493
02:22:04,040 --> 02:22:06,880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But you have earmarked revenues.

1494
02:22:08,260 --> 02:22:15,180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron po kayong pera na dapat kayo mismo ay may access doon at madali niyong magamit.

1495
02:22:15,560 --> 02:22:19,020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And this is for free Wi-Fi and for our cloud services.

1496
02:22:19,880 --> 02:22:20,120
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

1497
02:22:20,600 --> 02:22:25,920
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, regarding that concern, that's correct that there are earmarked funds.

1498
02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:27,840
Rep. Brian Poe: I don't...

1499
02:22:27,840 --> 02:22:31,290
Rep. Roberto Nazal: All of it?

1500
02:22:31,290 --> 02:22:34,040
Rep. Brian Poe: Right.

1501
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:40,560
Rep. Brian Poe: So, it's not included in the earmarked funds as part of the automatic use.

1502
02:22:41,180 --> 02:22:47,500
Rep. Brian Poe: So, for data, we're unable to use those earmarked funds in order to fund cloud data.

1503
02:22:48,500 --> 02:22:51,040
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Are we expecting this to happen again?

1504
02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:57,320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or do we have enough funds already and credits, so-called credits, to cover any surge in the future?

1505
02:22:57,880 --> 02:22:58,040
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And do...

1506
02:22:58,540 --> 02:23:02,580
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do we have access to the earmarked funds para hindi na ito mangyari ulit?

1507
02:23:02,580 --> 02:23:10,420
Rep. Brian Poe: So based on the eGov law, Madam Speaker, we do have enough funds to maintain.

1508
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:15,460
Rep. Brian Poe: But that doesn't necessarily mean that we are at optimal.

1509
02:23:15,900 --> 02:23:20,580
Rep. Brian Poe: If I'm not mistaken, the budget that we're being given for these cloud services...

1510
02:23:21,100 --> 02:23:25,300
Rep. Brian Poe: I mean, for our data services is about 949 million.

1511
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:27,580
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: For the indulgence of...

1512
02:23:27,880 --> 02:23:31,780
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: For the honorable Nazal, if he could kindly wind up.

1513
02:23:32,580 --> 02:23:32,860
Rep. Brian Poe: Right.

1514
02:23:33,040 --> 02:23:35,820
Rep. Brian Poe: So, 949 million for eGov.

1515
02:23:35,960 --> 02:23:40,920
Rep. Brian Poe: But the reality is, we actually need additional funds for redundancies.

1516
02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:47,760
Rep. Brian Poe: We need additional funds for emergency systems, which we don't have currently.

1517
02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:51,060
Rep. Brian Poe: So, if you're wondering why there's a risk of it going down,

1518
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:54,860
Rep. Brian Poe: it's partly because we're underfunding this specific program.

1519
02:23:54,860 --> 02:23:57,760
Rep. Brian Poe: But the law does provide for the bare minimum required.

1520
02:23:57,880 --> 02:24:00,800
Rep. Brian Poe: to operate and maintain eGov.

1521
02:24:00,800 --> 02:24:05,860
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what is the funding actually needed for us to be able to support?

1522
02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:14,520
Rep. Brian Poe: The request is 1.8 billion, Madam Speaker.

1523
02:24:15,940 --> 02:24:20,120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, bakit pa po natin kunin ito sa USF?

1524
02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:22,120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Um...

1525
02:24:22,120 --> 02:24:24,120
Rep. Brian Poe: Because...

1526
02:24:24,880 --> 02:24:26,120
Rep. Brian Poe: ...

1527
02:24:27,880 --> 02:24:36,040
Rep. Brian Poe: Well, that's a very valid point that the USF could possibly be used,

1528
02:24:36,100 --> 02:24:39,440
Rep. Brian Poe: or earmarked funds could possibly be used for cloud services.

1529
02:24:39,860 --> 02:24:45,400
Rep. Brian Poe: However, unfortunately, that is not within the purview of the agency to decide that.

1530
02:24:45,820 --> 02:24:50,600
Rep. Brian Poe: I believe that is a call of the DBM, if I'm not mistaken, Madam Speaker.

1531
02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:50,820
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay.

1532
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:57,760
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Maybe due to lack of time, I just have to bring this up.

1533
02:24:58,140 --> 02:25:02,940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: During our previous hearing also, we already discussed that much of the government data is hosted abroad.

1534
02:25:03,400 --> 02:25:07,080
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And that DICT needs local availability zones or data centers.

1535
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:09,300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi ko na po ulitin yun.

1536
02:25:09,660 --> 02:25:12,520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang follow-up ko lang, kailan matatapos ang migration?

1537
02:25:18,700 --> 02:25:25,080
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What percentage of critical government data and workloads will be locally hosted by end of November 26?

1538
02:25:25,380 --> 02:25:27,440
Rep. Roberto Nazal: By end of November 2027?

1539
02:25:27,880 --> 02:25:30,260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And when will migration be substantially completed?

1540
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:39,360
Rep. Brian Poe: By the end of this year, we're looking at 20% of critical government data would be localized.

1541
02:25:40,060 --> 02:25:45,320
Rep. Brian Poe: We currently have one server that is up in Subic.

1542
02:25:46,180 --> 02:25:48,320
Rep. Brian Poe: One data center that's up in Subic.

1543
02:25:48,320 --> 02:25:55,340
Rep. Brian Poe: And we're hoping that we'll be able to localize our government data all by 2028.

1544
02:25:55,980 --> 02:25:57,860
Rep. Brian Poe: That's the goal, Madam Speaker.

1545
02:25:57,880 --> 02:26:01,900
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how much is needed to localize everything by 2028?

1546
02:26:05,340 --> 02:26:12,200
Rep. Brian Poe: Based on the feasibility studies, DICT is projecting 8 billion in costs, Madam Speaker.

1547
02:26:19,820 --> 02:26:23,880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor, I go back to where I started.

1548
02:26:25,460 --> 02:26:27,720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT's mandate is much bigger than Wi-Fi.

1549
02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:30,200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: connectivity, computers and subscriptions.

1550
02:26:31,100 --> 02:26:35,700
Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT is supposed to lead the digital transformation of government.

1551
02:26:36,580 --> 02:26:42,620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: That means efficient ICT spending, reliable e-gov systems, interoperable databases,

1552
02:26:42,880 --> 02:26:46,520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: trusted digital identity, transparent government processes,

1553
02:26:47,380 --> 02:26:52,300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: and public spending that citizens can digitally trace.

1554
02:26:52,860 --> 02:26:57,640
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Lagi naman natin pinaglalaban na mabigyan kayo ng sapat na resources ang DICT,

1555
02:26:57,880 --> 02:27:19,840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Because digitalization is essential. But if you need more money, tell Congress exactly what you need and what it will deliver. And if the money is already available, particularly from earmarked resources, then we need to understand why it is not being converted into reliable government services. Thank you, Madam Chair.

1556
02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:31,000
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I want to thank our colleague for his constructive questions. They're very valid and they really point to the needs of the agency.

1557
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:36,140
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

1558
02:27:37,280 --> 02:27:49,780
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: To further interpellate on the proposed budget, Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the representative of Kabataan Party-list,

1559
02:27:49,840 --> 02:27:53,300
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Representative Renee Louise Co.

1560
02:27:54,160 --> 02:27:59,280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Honorable Renee Louise Co of Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

1561
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:07,180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Chair. And good evening to our distinguished sponsor and to DICT.

1562
02:28:07,980 --> 02:28:17,640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So may this distinguished sponsor yield to a couple of questions regarding the budget of DICT?

1563
02:28:18,040 --> 02:28:19,640
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, it would be my privilege.

1564
02:28:19,840 --> 02:28:23,020
Rep. Brian Poe: It would be my privilege to answer the questions of my dear colleague.

1565
02:28:23,560 --> 02:28:25,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

1566
02:28:25,820 --> 02:28:34,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, my first line of questioning would be in relation to the free public internet access program,

1567
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:40,580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which this representation thanks the DICT for the report that it has provided,

1568
02:28:40,580 --> 02:28:49,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: giving more detail as to which locations, which schools, which SUCs have already,

1569
02:28:49,840 --> 02:28:58,020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: established connections for free public internet access, and which ones are yet to be established.

1570
02:28:58,440 --> 02:29:08,080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So we've noted that for basic and secondary public educational institutions,

1571
02:29:08,780 --> 02:29:16,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: there are more unconnected public schools in Region 5, more than in other regions.

1572
02:29:16,980 --> 02:29:19,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May we ask, perhaps, why this is so?

1573
02:29:19,840 --> 02:29:28,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is there a greater difficulty in accessing regions or locations in Region 5, for example?

1574
02:29:34,440 --> 02:29:39,300
Rep. Brian Poe: So it's actually not necessarily a technical difficulty.

1575
02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:48,320
Rep. Brian Poe: It's more of a prioritization from DepEd on which areas would receive, I guess, the services first and get connected.

1576
02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:59,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So is it to say that there's no one explanation as to why there's this number of unconnected public schools?

1577
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:16,180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, we just noted that in Region 5, there's 70 locations that are being targeted to put up an internet connection or a free internet connection for, which is more than the other regions.

1578
02:30:16,180 --> 02:30:28,480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For example, the next region which has more number of locations na kailangan ng connection would be already NIR at 38.

1579
02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:36,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, yung 70 ng Region 5, it just stands out. So, meron po bang particular reason? If any, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

1580
02:30:46,080 --> 02:30:54,460
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay. So, out of the 45,000 target schools of DepEd, 11,000 were connected by DICT.

1581
02:30:54,460 --> 02:30:58,460
Rep. Brian Poe: However, the remaining were supposedly already connected by...

1582
02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:03,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, parang may connection na po. Ganon. So, hindi priority.

1583
02:31:03,860 --> 02:31:13,100
Rep. Brian Poe: There should be a connection. Although, what I know, dear colleague, is that there are some areas wherein they were connected and now there are problems with connection.

1584
02:31:13,660 --> 02:31:21,380
Rep. Brian Poe: And there are other areas from based on testimonies I've heard in which they don't have connection or are requesting for connection still.

1585
02:31:21,380 --> 02:31:27,840
Rep. Brian Poe: So, while the numbers reported to us is that on paper, we know that we have high connectivity.

1586
02:31:28,480 --> 02:31:31,240
Rep. Brian Poe: And that there are several areas that have been connected and we're...

1587
02:31:31,240 --> 02:31:33,340
Rep. Brian Poe: What's the DepEd number? We're at 90%?

1588
02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:40,160
Rep. Brian Poe: We're at 99.39% in terms of connectivity.

1589
02:31:41,340 --> 02:31:48,120
Rep. Brian Poe: However, and this is where I need the help of my colleagues as well as the other members who are present.

1590
02:31:48,940 --> 02:31:57,560
Rep. Brian Poe: If you could give me a list of all the schools that don't have access, aren't connected, or were connected and lost their connection,

1591
02:31:57,800 --> 02:32:07,760
Rep. Brian Poe: And I would gladly work with my colleague to call the attention of DICT to make sure that these areas are reconnected or are connected as per the mandate of DICT.

1592
02:32:08,340 --> 02:32:10,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for that opening, Madam Speaker.

1593
02:32:11,100 --> 02:32:11,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor.

1594
02:32:12,240 --> 02:32:22,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At the proper time, this representation would also like to submit any of the information and requests that it has gathered regarding that.

1595
02:32:22,600 --> 02:32:28,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But in relation to that point, at ito rin po yung nakalagay sa report na,

1596
02:32:28,480 --> 02:32:41,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ilahad ng DICT that the NEP for fiscal year 2027 provides for the maintenance and operation of more than 16,000 free Wi-Fi locations established in 2026.

1597
02:32:41,660 --> 02:32:51,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But to ensure the continued availability of free Wi-Fi in public schools, an additional 3 billion is necessary for the maintenance and operation of existing school sites.

1598
02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:58,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At iba pa yung tier 2 budget request na 10 billion plus for the expansion of free Wi-Fi to other priorities.

1599
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:00,720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: public service locations. So to clarify

1600
02:33:00,720 --> 02:33:02,720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, itong

1601
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:04,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 3 billion, additional 3 billion

1602
02:33:04,500 --> 02:33:06,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the continued

1603
02:33:06,500 --> 02:33:08,620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: availability, hindi pa po ito granted?

1604
02:33:09,660 --> 02:33:10,180
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

1605
02:33:10,780 --> 02:33:11,240
Rep. Brian Poe: Hindi pa.

1606
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:14,840
Rep. Brian Poe: Hindi pa granted because the only thing that I'm sure

1607
02:33:14,840 --> 02:33:16,100
Rep. Brian Poe: will be granted

1608
02:33:16,100 --> 02:33:18,640
Rep. Brian Poe: is the continuing appropriation

1609
02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:20,620
Rep. Brian Poe: from the spectrum user fee, which

1610
02:33:20,620 --> 02:33:22,560
Rep. Brian Poe: is the earmark fund for free WiFi.

1611
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:24,300
Rep. Brian Poe: But the additional funds,

1612
02:33:24,640 --> 02:33:26,920
Rep. Brian Poe: the request, the 3 billion,

1613
02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:28,820
Rep. Brian Poe: will have to come from us

1614
02:33:28,820 --> 02:33:30,460
Rep. Brian Poe: allocating it in the

1615
02:33:30,460 --> 02:33:32,860
Rep. Brian Poe: GAA. But to be

1616
02:33:32,860 --> 02:33:34,920
Rep. Brian Poe: clear, the reason why we have that increase

1617
02:33:34,920 --> 02:33:37,140
Rep. Brian Poe: is because as we increase our connections,

1618
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:38,860
Rep. Brian Poe: of course the maintenance of these

1619
02:33:38,860 --> 02:33:40,920
Rep. Brian Poe: connections will require an additional

1620
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:42,960
Rep. Brian Poe: fund, which was not available from

1621
02:33:42,960 --> 02:33:44,960
Rep. Brian Poe: the earmark previous. So

1622
02:33:44,960 --> 02:33:46,800
Rep. Brian Poe: hopefully we're able to get that. But the

1623
02:33:46,800 --> 02:33:48,620
Rep. Brian Poe: expansion is necessary. So

1624
02:33:48,620 --> 02:33:50,980
Rep. Brian Poe: on the DepEd level, ang commitment is

1625
02:33:50,980 --> 02:33:52,940
Rep. Brian Poe: that na mga elementary schools

1626
02:33:52,940 --> 02:33:54,860
Rep. Brian Poe: would be connected. Pero

1627
02:33:54,860 --> 02:33:56,640
Rep. Brian Poe: hindi pa kasama yung mga

1628
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:57,480
Rep. Brian Poe: universities,

1629
02:33:58,540 --> 02:33:59,260
Rep. Brian Poe: SUCs.

1630
02:34:00,100 --> 02:34:02,740
Rep. Brian Poe: So that's yung expansion na kailangan natin.

1631
02:34:03,140 --> 02:34:04,820
Rep. Brian Poe: So yung mga iba na may complaint na wala

1632
02:34:04,820 --> 02:34:06,260
Rep. Brian Poe: pa silang connection sa kanilang

1633
02:34:06,260 --> 02:34:08,800
Rep. Brian Poe: eskwelahan, lalo na pag university, state,

1634
02:34:09,180 --> 02:34:10,260
Rep. Brian Poe: universities or colleges,

1635
02:34:10,760 --> 02:34:12,820
Rep. Brian Poe: yun yung dahilan. Kasi kailangan pa natin

1636
02:34:12,820 --> 02:34:14,480
Rep. Brian Poe: ng budget para ma-expand ng

1637
02:34:14,480 --> 02:34:16,700
Rep. Brian Poe: programa. Madam Speaker,

1638
02:34:16,820 --> 02:34:18,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, dahil landmark essentially

1639
02:34:18,860 --> 02:34:20,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung pag-establish

1640
02:34:20,960 --> 02:34:22,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng connectivity

1641
02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:24,440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in these schools,

1642
02:34:25,100 --> 02:34:26,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but dahil hindi

1643
02:34:26,260 --> 02:34:28,020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: granted as of now

1644
02:34:28,020 --> 02:34:30,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: itong 3 billion for the

1645
02:34:30,160 --> 02:34:31,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: maintenance and operation of existing

1646
02:34:31,960 --> 02:34:34,280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: school sites, kung hindi po mag-grant

1647
02:34:34,280 --> 02:34:35,940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: itong 3 billion na ito, ano pong

1648
02:34:35,940 --> 02:34:37,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mangyayari sa connectivity ng

1649
02:34:37,840 --> 02:34:40,380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: schools na na-establish

1650
02:34:40,380 --> 02:34:42,180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na noong 2026?

1651
02:34:47,240 --> 02:34:48,440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tama po ba yung

1652
02:34:48,440 --> 02:34:50,440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: intindi natin, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

1653
02:34:50,580 --> 02:34:52,480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na hindi po ito matutuloy

1654
02:34:52,480 --> 02:34:54,780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or ano pong

1655
02:34:54,780 --> 02:34:55,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mangyayari?

1656
02:35:01,900 --> 02:35:14,200
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay, so to clarify,

1657
02:35:14,780 --> 02:35:16,760
Rep. Brian Poe: the 3 billion, while ideal

1658
02:35:16,760 --> 02:35:18,500
Rep. Brian Poe: that we're able to grant it through

1659
02:35:18,500 --> 02:35:20,440
Rep. Brian Poe: legislation for the GAA,

1660
02:35:20,840 --> 02:35:22,620
Rep. Brian Poe: should there not be an allocation

1661
02:35:22,620 --> 02:35:24,620
Rep. Brian Poe: from the GAA, it now

1662
02:35:24,620 --> 02:35:25,840
Rep. Brian Poe: falls upon the DBM,

1663
02:35:26,260 --> 02:35:28,340
Rep. Brian Poe: to release additional funding from

1664
02:35:28,340 --> 02:35:29,480
Rep. Brian Poe: the SUF,

1665
02:35:29,900 --> 02:35:32,380
Rep. Brian Poe: and earmark that for the

1666
02:35:32,380 --> 02:35:34,420
Rep. Brian Poe: continuation of the free Wi-Fi program.

1667
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:36,440
Rep. Brian Poe: However, if we are able to

1668
02:35:36,440 --> 02:35:37,920
Rep. Brian Poe: provide the 3 billion, then

1669
02:35:37,920 --> 02:35:40,440
Rep. Brian Poe: technically, we don't have to dig

1670
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:41,700
Rep. Brian Poe: into the SUF anymore.

1671
02:35:42,280 --> 02:35:44,480
Rep. Brian Poe: Remember, that's our contingency fund for

1672
02:35:44,480 --> 02:35:46,440
Rep. Brian Poe: free Wi-Fi, and our goal

1673
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:48,240
Rep. Brian Poe: here is not just to maintain

1674
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:50,360
Rep. Brian Poe: the existing sites, but to expand

1675
02:35:50,360 --> 02:35:52,540
Rep. Brian Poe: free connectivity para sa mga

1676
02:35:52,540 --> 02:35:53,420
Rep. Brian Poe: kababayan natin.

1677
02:35:54,380 --> 02:35:56,100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For this representation,

1678
02:35:56,260 --> 02:35:57,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the public's

1679
02:35:57,740 --> 02:36:00,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: purpose, ano po ang SUF?

1680
02:36:02,140 --> 02:36:03,580
Rep. Brian Poe: Oh, I apologize.

1681
02:36:04,060 --> 02:36:06,240
Rep. Brian Poe: The SUF is the spectrum user fee.

1682
02:36:06,760 --> 02:36:08,400
Rep. Brian Poe: This is the minimal fee

1683
02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:10,340
Rep. Brian Poe: that is automatically collected from

1684
02:36:10,340 --> 02:36:12,240
Rep. Brian Poe: telcos, and

1685
02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:14,240
Rep. Brian Poe: contributes to our free Wi-Fi.

1686
02:36:14,660 --> 02:36:15,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And how much po ba

1687
02:36:15,860 --> 02:36:18,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang nasa

1688
02:36:18,680 --> 02:36:20,420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SUF ngayon na pwedeng

1689
02:36:20,420 --> 02:36:22,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makuha itong

1690
02:36:22,500 --> 02:36:24,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 3 billion, at hindi magkukulang

1691
02:36:24,980 --> 02:36:26,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para po sa

1692
02:36:26,220 --> 02:36:27,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: purposes of continuous

1693
02:36:27,700 --> 02:36:29,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: connectivity ng schools?

1694
02:36:30,400 --> 02:36:31,980
Rep. Brian Poe: As of June

1695
02:36:31,980 --> 02:36:34,400
Rep. Brian Poe: 2026,

1696
02:36:35,180 --> 02:36:35,740
Rep. Brian Poe: we have

1697
02:36:35,740 --> 02:36:36,940
Rep. Brian Poe: 22 billion,

1698
02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:39,340
Rep. Brian Poe: 303 million,

1699
02:36:39,700 --> 02:36:42,880
Rep. Brian Poe: 304,367 pesos,

1700
02:36:43,260 --> 02:36:44,840
Rep. Brian Poe: and 28 centavos.

1701
02:36:46,100 --> 02:36:47,420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At kung hindi po nakuha yung

1702
02:36:47,420 --> 02:36:49,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tier 2 budget request for the expansion

1703
02:36:49,360 --> 02:36:51,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of free Wi-Fi to other priority public

1704
02:36:51,460 --> 02:36:52,380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: service locations,

1705
02:36:53,420 --> 02:36:55,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ano pong implication ito for

1706
02:36:55,540 --> 02:36:57,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2027?

1707
02:36:57,540 --> 02:36:59,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There will be

1708
02:36:59,040 --> 02:37:01,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lesser expansion than expected?

1709
02:37:02,460 --> 02:37:04,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pwede rin po bang kumuha

1710
02:37:04,060 --> 02:37:05,720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa SUF para po

1711
02:37:05,720 --> 02:37:08,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makamit yung mga targets for expansion

1712
02:37:08,340 --> 02:37:09,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na

1713
02:37:09,260 --> 02:37:11,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 10 plus 10 billion,

1714
02:37:11,980 --> 02:37:14,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 55, ay 500 million plus

1715
02:37:14,760 --> 02:37:15,560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang kailangan?

1716
02:37:16,060 --> 02:37:17,620
Rep. Brian Poe: What I'm being told

1717
02:37:17,620 --> 02:37:19,940
Rep. Brian Poe: by the DICT is that

1718
02:37:19,940 --> 02:37:21,840
Rep. Brian Poe: it can actually be used

1719
02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:22,800
Rep. Brian Poe: for the expansion.

1720
02:37:23,620 --> 02:37:25,420
Rep. Brian Poe: But two things to consider.

1721
02:37:25,540 --> 02:37:26,760
Rep. Brian Poe: One is that

1722
02:37:26,760 --> 02:37:29,460
Rep. Brian Poe: siyempre ang DBM may final say

1723
02:37:29,460 --> 02:37:31,400
Rep. Brian Poe: kung lalabas itong pondo

1724
02:37:31,400 --> 02:37:32,580
Rep. Brian Poe: for the expansion.

1725
02:37:33,160 --> 02:37:35,060
Rep. Brian Poe: And second consideration is, remember,

1726
02:37:35,540 --> 02:37:37,280
Rep. Brian Poe: sabihin natin na nag-expand tayo

1727
02:37:37,280 --> 02:37:39,260
Rep. Brian Poe: and our yearly cost goes up to

1728
02:37:39,260 --> 02:37:41,120
Rep. Brian Poe: 10 billion, right?

1729
02:37:41,600 --> 02:37:43,520
Rep. Brian Poe: That means that the SUF that we

1730
02:37:43,520 --> 02:37:45,520
Rep. Brian Poe: currently have is only good to maintain

1731
02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:47,500
Rep. Brian Poe: for two years. So we have to

1732
02:37:47,500 --> 02:37:49,400
Rep. Brian Poe: be careful on how much we use

1733
02:37:49,400 --> 02:37:50,980
Rep. Brian Poe: from the SUF to expand

1734
02:37:50,980 --> 02:37:53,080
Rep. Brian Poe: and how much we use to maintain.

1735
02:37:53,080 --> 02:37:55,340
Rep. Brian Poe: Ang importante, yung mga

1736
02:37:55,340 --> 02:37:56,980
Rep. Brian Poe: sites na meron na tayo, siyempre,

1737
02:37:57,240 --> 02:37:58,880
Rep. Brian Poe: hindi dapat tanggalin yun or

1738
02:37:58,880 --> 02:38:01,360
Rep. Brian Poe: madisconnect ang services. So little

1739
02:38:01,360 --> 02:38:03,380
Rep. Brian Poe: by little, but we want to

1740
02:38:03,380 --> 02:38:05,480
Rep. Brian Poe: make sure that the main SUF fund

1741
02:38:05,480 --> 02:38:07,400
Rep. Brian Poe: doesn't completely run out. That's why

1742
02:38:07,400 --> 02:38:09,260
Rep. Brian Poe: we also need additional funds from

1743
02:38:09,260 --> 02:38:11,380
Rep. Brian Poe: Congress for the expansion. But the maintenance,

1744
02:38:11,840 --> 02:38:13,040
Rep. Brian Poe: that's definitely a commitment

1745
02:38:13,040 --> 02:38:14,200
Rep. Brian Poe: under the SUF.

1746
02:38:15,180 --> 02:38:17,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So what I'm hearing, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

1747
02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:19,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay hindi na rin sapat yung

1748
02:38:19,220 --> 02:38:20,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yearly appropriations

1749
02:38:20,920 --> 02:38:23,780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na kinery over lang

1750
02:38:23,780 --> 02:38:25,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from 20%

1751
02:38:25,340 --> 02:38:26,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from 2025

1752
02:38:26,900 --> 02:38:29,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: onwards and onwards, para

1753
02:38:29,120 --> 02:38:30,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: i-maintain na

1754
02:38:30,900 --> 02:38:32,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung mga existing

1755
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:34,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: connections that are

1756
02:38:34,840 --> 02:38:36,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not only established before, pero yung

1757
02:38:36,980 --> 02:38:38,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dinadagdag natin. So just

1758
02:38:38,840 --> 02:38:41,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the record, magkano na po ba

1759
02:38:41,200 --> 02:38:43,000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung kailangan to maintain

1760
02:38:43,000 --> 02:38:45,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung connectivity

1761
02:38:45,260 --> 02:38:47,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that's currently

1762
02:38:47,200 --> 02:38:47,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: existing?

1763
02:38:49,160 --> 02:38:51,000
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, it's true.

1764
02:38:51,160 --> 02:38:53,380
Rep. Brian Poe: Sobrang kulang po yung investment natin

1765
02:38:53,380 --> 02:38:55,320
Rep. Brian Poe: sa free Wi-Fi para sa mga constituents.

1766
02:38:55,340 --> 02:39:16,600
Rep. Brian Poe: In fact, the investment cost is actually 22.5 pesos per connected beneficiary. Madam Speaker, 22.5 pesos per month. That's a minimal investment for the potential that connectivity unlocks, lalo na para sa mga kabataan.

1767
02:39:16,600 --> 02:39:30,900
Rep. Brian Poe: So, for me, I honestly believe that you're correct. There is a lack of funding. This should be prioritized, but again, we also have to consider absorptive capacity of the agency, the maintenance and operations before we can go into expansion.

1768
02:39:31,400 --> 02:39:45,320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, at the appropriate time, this representation will move for the amendment of the GAB to support the necessary funding para po magtuloy-tuloy yung connectivity,

1769
02:39:45,320 --> 02:40:08,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lalo na nakalagay po ito sa mga paaralan. Ang beneficiary po, kabataan, yung beneficiary, the education sector, that, you know, kailangan ang connectivity nito among others para continuous yung quality education na ibibigay sa kabataan at syempre na ibabahagi din ng faculty, administrators, etc.

1770
02:40:08,620 --> 02:40:15,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, I'd like to move on to my next line of questioning. This is in relation, actually, to...

1771
02:40:15,320 --> 02:40:45,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Project Uplift. We asked this with TESDA, which informed us na ito po ay in partnership with the DICT. This is the implementation of AI-related programs, especially upskilling, that is being rolled out to BPO companies through courses na ibinabahagi sa kanilang

1772
02:40:45,320 --> 02:41:15,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga employees. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, binigyan po tayo, at least ng DOLE, may some coordination ito with the DICT, ng mga listahan ng mga enterprises and yung kanilang mga training programs that they're availing of. May I ask, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, itong mga courses na po ba ito, may duration po ba ito?

1773
02:41:15,300 --> 02:41:27,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang concern na finlag natin po sa TESDA ay may reports that it could be just like one PowerPoint, papasadahan ni employee, at the end of it, upskilled na siya.

1774
02:41:28,160 --> 02:41:40,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, I'd like more qualitative details. What does this course look like, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor. Is this a month-long course? May test ba ito at the end?

1775
02:41:41,420 --> 02:41:44,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano po natin na may measure na upskilled yung employee sa dulo po nito?

1776
02:41:45,300 --> 02:42:09,240
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, that's a very valid question from my colleague. Siyempre, hindi pwede natin sabihin na upskilled po ang mga government workers natin, ang mga workers in general natin, kung PowerPoint lang po ang pinapakita sa kanila, lalo na kung tech-related po ito.

1777
02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:14,960
Rep. Brian Poe: So, if you'll allow me a few seconds just to confer kung ano talaga yung programa.

1778
02:42:15,300 --> 02:42:17,420
Rep. Brian Poe: I'll get back to you in a moment.

1779
02:42:18,680 --> 02:42:20,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

1780
02:42:38,500 --> 02:42:45,280
Rep. Brian Poe: So, Madam Speaker, to clarify, all these courses have been uploaded in the Digital Workforce Hub.

1781
02:42:45,300 --> 02:42:47,640
Rep. Brian Poe: Which was just released September 9.

1782
02:42:48,420 --> 02:42:50,500
Rep. Brian Poe: So, the courses are available there.

1783
02:42:51,060 --> 02:42:53,740
Rep. Brian Poe: And it's not just a course that you can enroll on.

1784
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:59,040
Rep. Brian Poe: I believe there are also follow-up activities for capacity building.

1785
02:42:59,260 --> 02:43:08,720
Rep. Brian Poe: So, really, DICT is committed in not just creating another certificate mill, but really building the capacity of our employees.

1786
02:43:08,880 --> 02:43:11,240
Rep. Brian Poe: However, this is brand new.

1787
02:43:11,680 --> 02:43:13,060
Rep. Brian Poe: We just started September 9.

1788
02:43:13,540 --> 02:43:15,080
Rep. Brian Poe: So, we have yet to see whether or not

1789
02:43:15,300 --> 02:43:16,940
Rep. Brian Poe: this will be a successful program.

1790
02:43:17,820 --> 02:43:21,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may this representation be furnished.

1791
02:43:21,060 --> 02:43:31,080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A copy of the document that maybe the DICT is using as a framework to implement the upskilling.

1792
02:43:31,640 --> 02:43:43,180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I understand that at least in the public releases of IBPAP, it is rolling it out in partnership with these agencies.

1793
02:43:43,180 --> 02:43:45,180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It is hoping that...

1794
02:43:45,300 --> 02:43:50,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That the upskilling happens to its employees.

1795
02:43:51,220 --> 02:43:55,180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We're still questioning, ano yung translation of upskilling na ba ito?

1796
02:43:55,260 --> 02:43:56,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito ba ay promotion?

1797
02:43:56,860 --> 02:43:59,420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito ba ay additional salary?

1798
02:43:59,680 --> 02:44:02,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ganyan, more appropriate questions for Dole, perhaps.

1799
02:44:02,660 --> 02:44:10,440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero at least sa DICT, gusto po natin makita yung mga detalye ng paano po niroroll out niya yung mga kurso na ito.

1800
02:44:10,700 --> 02:44:12,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Would that be...

1801
02:44:12,300 --> 02:44:13,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can that happen, Madam Speaker?

1802
02:44:13,980 --> 02:44:14,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor.

1803
02:44:15,300 --> 02:44:20,580
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, to be fair, the mandate of DICT would be on the capacity building side,

1804
02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:22,940
Rep. Brian Poe: but not necessarily the immediate employment.

1805
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:30,060
Rep. Brian Poe: However, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be a priority for DICT to make sure that they're highly employable after their programs.

1806
02:44:30,400 --> 02:44:35,300
Rep. Brian Poe: With that being said, I have the commitment of the Secretary that we can provide to you, to this representation,

1807
02:44:35,980 --> 02:44:45,060
Rep. Brian Poe: the framework that was used to create this program, and also, if my colleague has any constituents,

1808
02:44:45,060 --> 02:44:49,580
Rep. Brian Poe: that would like to participate in any of the capacity building activities,

1809
02:44:50,780 --> 02:44:56,760
Rep. Brian Poe: the DICT has given their commitment to immediately enroll and add them into the program

1810
02:44:56,760 --> 02:44:59,980
Rep. Brian Poe: so that you can get first-hand experience on these programs.

1811
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,420
Rep. Brian Poe: and also give your critique on whether or not this is really effective in providing ang mga kabataan natin ng mas maraming oportunidad.

1812
02:45:08,420 --> 02:45:09,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

1813
02:45:10,300 --> 02:45:16,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I am of the understanding that there are slots that are allotted to various enterprises.

1814
02:45:17,700 --> 02:45:23,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, we might have to consult also with these regions, etc.

1815
02:45:23,340 --> 02:45:30,560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But nonetheless, we appreciate the details of the qualitative framework by which this upskilling happens.

1816
02:45:31,100 --> 02:45:41,560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na po yung pangamba ng karamihan ng ating mga employees in different sectors, lalo na sa BPO, kung saan mas inaasahan yung upskilling na itong mangyari,

1817
02:45:41,560 --> 02:45:50,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: rather than AI integration helping these employees to further their careers,

1818
02:45:50,400 --> 02:45:53,320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay nagiging rason pa nga po na sila ay maaari.

1819
02:45:53,340 --> 02:45:55,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ma-retrench, ma-let go.

1820
02:45:56,140 --> 02:46:04,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sila po ay nawawalan ng trabaho because of the further integration of AI in these companies' workflows.

1821
02:46:05,060 --> 02:46:09,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But nonetheless, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, we will be waiting for the submission of the Good Department.

1822
02:46:10,280 --> 02:46:15,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My last question would be in relation to the EGOV PH app.

1823
02:46:15,160 --> 02:46:23,000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I remember in the presentation of the DICT that there are 54 million users registered as of date.

1824
02:46:23,340 --> 02:46:32,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: During the presentation, may we ask, yung breakdown nito, ilan po ba dito sa 54 million users ang unique Filipino users?

1825
02:46:33,260 --> 02:46:35,940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I assume dahil po may ilan po dito.

1826
02:46:35,940 --> 02:46:40,940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mga foreigners, nirequire na i-download yung EGOV app para po sa kanilang mga travel details.

1827
02:46:42,860 --> 02:46:47,320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May ilan dito foreigners? So ilan po sa 54 million users nito ang Pilipino?

1828
02:46:53,340 --> 02:47:02,900
Rep. Brian Poe: So from the DICT is claiming that only 3 to 4 percent of these active users are foreigners.

1829
02:47:03,680 --> 02:47:06,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. So most of them are Filipino users po?

1830
02:47:07,080 --> 02:47:10,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. And we are sure naman po na unique users sila.

1831
02:47:10,920 --> 02:47:16,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I assume dahil may IDs din pong pinapasubmit para magka-EGOV account.

1832
02:47:16,940 --> 02:47:20,760
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, Madam Speaker, we can guarantee that these are unique accounts.

1833
02:47:21,260 --> 02:47:21,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

1834
02:47:22,300 --> 02:47:23,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker...

1835
02:47:23,340 --> 02:47:31,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may data ba kung anong mga services yung mga ginagamit ng mga Filipino users natin?

1836
02:47:31,920 --> 02:47:36,280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Alin po yung mas frequently ginagamit versus sa hindi pa nagagamit?

1837
02:47:44,720 --> 02:47:50,260
Rep. Brian Poe: If we could just have a quick second to confer kung ano yung mga top services na ginagamit.

1838
02:47:50,720 --> 02:47:53,000
Rep. Brian Poe: But one thing I want to point out is unlike...

1839
02:47:53,340 --> 02:47:55,700
Rep. Brian Poe: Social media, these are unique accounts.

1840
02:47:56,480 --> 02:47:56,920
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

1841
02:47:56,920 --> 02:47:59,880
Rep. Brian Poe: So that we can verify due to their government IDs.

1842
02:48:01,640 --> 02:48:04,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I ask these questions, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

1843
02:48:04,600 --> 02:48:09,180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I will allow the distinguished sponsor the few moments to confer with DICT.

1844
02:48:09,180 --> 02:48:21,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Para po maitimbang din natin yung dami ng pera na binibigay natin sa EGOV app development and maintenance.

1845
02:48:22,260 --> 02:48:23,180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa paano ba...

1846
02:48:23,340 --> 02:48:27,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pag ginagamit, gaano ba kadalas na nagagamit ng mga mamamayan natin yung app?

1847
02:48:28,380 --> 02:48:30,880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano ba siya na ma-maximize, if any, or hindi?

1848
02:48:31,820 --> 02:48:35,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yun po yung gusto nating ma-test with this data point, perhaps.

1849
02:48:35,920 --> 02:48:41,360
Rep. Brian Poe: So I have the breakdown, Madam Speaker.

1850
02:48:42,080 --> 02:48:50,800
Rep. Brian Poe: First is national ID, followed by PhilHealth, followed by Pag-ibig, followed by e-travel,

1851
02:48:51,540 --> 02:48:53,300
Rep. Brian Poe: which is then followed by clearance.

1852
02:48:53,340 --> 02:48:58,420
Rep. Brian Poe: Permits, social services, and last would be the health desk.

1853
02:48:59,420 --> 02:49:05,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may this representation receive a report on the breakdown of services use?

1854
02:49:06,480 --> 02:49:14,620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And maybe kung this data is available, how much of the percentage of Filipino users that are registered,

1855
02:49:15,100 --> 02:49:16,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang gumagamit ng mga servisyong ito?

1856
02:49:17,420 --> 02:49:19,320
Rep. Brian Poe: We will request for that.

1857
02:49:19,760 --> 02:49:23,180
Rep. Brian Poe: The agency is committing that they will submit the percentages.

1858
02:49:23,340 --> 02:49:26,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And last question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

1859
02:49:28,140 --> 02:49:34,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Saan po nakastore ang data na kinakalap ng e-gov app?

1860
02:49:36,860 --> 02:49:39,000
Rep. Brian Poe: Singapore and the United States.

1861
02:49:39,600 --> 02:49:43,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So it's at data centers of Singapore and United States.

1862
02:49:44,100 --> 02:49:48,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So we're availing of cloud services para po makuha sila?

1863
02:49:49,460 --> 02:49:53,320
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, Madam Speaker, I can confirm that we are using cloud services.

1864
02:49:53,340 --> 02:49:54,720
Rep. Brian Poe: In order to host this data.

1865
02:49:55,580 --> 02:50:01,000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How much data po ang nakalap na para po sa e-gov PH?

1866
02:50:01,140 --> 02:50:03,320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Like terabytes na po ba ito, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

1867
02:50:12,540 --> 02:50:15,980
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, six terabytes of data.

1868
02:50:17,800 --> 02:50:22,480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we're initially concerned that that's a lot of data.

1869
02:50:22,480 --> 02:50:22,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

1870
02:50:23,340 --> 02:50:28,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That's all personal data of Filipinos that's not hosted in the Philippines.

1871
02:50:29,540 --> 02:50:39,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So mayhaps the department may consider some way to locally host this data.

1872
02:50:39,720 --> 02:50:43,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na maaari kung magkaroon ng data breach.

1873
02:50:43,920 --> 02:50:46,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May mga assurances na binigay ang DICT publicly.

1874
02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:50,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But nonetheless, hindi siya foolproof guarantee that it won't happen.

1875
02:50:50,980 --> 02:50:52,020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na po.

1876
02:50:53,340 --> 02:50:56,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At hindi po siya stored locally.

1877
02:50:57,000 --> 02:50:58,880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So siguro na lang po.

1878
02:50:59,220 --> 02:51:01,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A final response on that point, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

1879
02:51:01,720 --> 02:51:02,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I have no further questions.

1880
02:51:09,720 --> 02:51:11,240
Rep. Brian Poe: So I stand corrected.

1881
02:51:11,420 --> 02:51:14,520
Rep. Brian Poe: It's 60 terabytes, not just 6 terabytes, Madam Speaker.

1882
02:51:14,740 --> 02:51:16,440
Rep. Brian Poe: And my colleague is correct.

1883
02:51:16,780 --> 02:51:22,300
Rep. Brian Poe: We actually, based on the eGov law, are supposed to move towards localization of data

1884
02:51:23,320 --> 02:51:25,420
Rep. Brian Poe: By 2028, I believe, is the commitment.

1885
02:51:26,080 --> 02:51:30,340
Rep. Brian Poe: And we need another 8 billion pesos to be able to get there.

1886
02:51:30,820 --> 02:51:33,640
Rep. Brian Poe: And that's the conservative estimate from the DICT.

1887
02:51:34,480 --> 02:51:38,840
Rep. Brian Poe: We've already allocated it, if I'm not mistaken, 9 billion so far.

1888
02:51:39,240 --> 02:51:46,580
Rep. Brian Poe: We've allocated 9 billion over the course of 8 years

1889
02:51:46,580 --> 02:51:51,580
Rep. Brian Poe: in order to address the data storage issue.

1890
02:51:51,580 --> 02:51:52,720
Rep. Brian Poe: But again,

1891
02:51:53,320 --> 02:51:58,680
Rep. Brian Poe: moving towards 2028, we need another 8 billion to reach our target.

1892
02:51:59,140 --> 02:52:04,860
Rep. Brian Poe: So I actually have the breakdown of the appropriation for data center

1893
02:52:04,860 --> 02:52:09,120
Rep. Brian Poe: from 2016 until our 2027 NEP.

1894
02:52:09,600 --> 02:52:19,680
Rep. Brian Poe: The total amount between MOE and capital outlay is 9,572,567 pesos.

1895
02:52:20,460 --> 02:52:23,120
Rep. Brian Poe: And then, of course, we need another 8 billion to reach our target.

1896
02:52:24,080 --> 02:52:32,220
Rep. Brian Poe: But in the NEP, we're only being given 949 million for fiscal year 2027.

1897
02:52:32,400 --> 02:52:33,900
Rep. Brian Poe: I have it here.

1898
02:52:34,580 --> 02:52:40,900
Rep. Brian Poe: I can submit this to the representation to my colleague for her perusal.

1899
02:52:41,440 --> 02:52:44,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That would be appreciated, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

1900
02:52:44,880 --> 02:52:47,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I thank the indulgence of my good colleague in answering my questions.

1901
02:52:48,100 --> 02:52:48,780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you very much.

1902
02:52:49,200 --> 02:52:49,560
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you.

1903
02:52:50,820 --> 02:52:51,640
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

1904
02:52:53,280 --> 02:52:58,440
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Next to interpellate on the proposed budget, Madam Speaker,

1905
02:52:59,480 --> 02:53:03,400
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: is the Act Teachers Party List representative.

1906
02:53:03,400 --> 02:53:09,400
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: And I therefore move that we recognize Representative Antonio Tinio.

1907
02:53:10,940 --> 02:53:16,400
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Antonio Tinio of ACT Teachers Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

1908
02:53:35,230 --> 02:53:53,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, ah, yung mga questions natin regarding the DICT budget have to do with the

1909
02:53:53,280 --> 02:53:54,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the project.

1910
02:53:57,320 --> 02:54:08,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, practically all the projects of the ICT, and these include the National ICT Household Survey,

1911
02:54:10,840 --> 02:54:16,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the National Government Data Center Infrastructure, National Broadband Program,

1912
02:54:16,360 --> 02:54:22,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the National Government Portal, the Government Transparency and Accountability Program,

1913
02:54:23,280 --> 02:54:32,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they're all funded at the central office level.

1914
02:54:33,860 --> 02:54:35,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, lahat sila.

1915
02:54:36,420 --> 02:54:44,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unlike many other agencies na merong nasa central office, centrally managed, tas merong nasa regions.

1916
02:54:44,980 --> 02:54:48,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, lahat po konsentrado sa national.

1917
02:54:49,340 --> 02:54:52,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, parang yun na yung ano eh, yun na yung mga major programs.

1918
02:54:52,560 --> 02:54:53,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Those are all.

1919
02:54:53,280 --> 02:54:57,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Those are all the programs, in fact, if I'm not mistaken, of the DICT.

1920
02:54:58,440 --> 02:55:03,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, una, is there an explanation for that?

1921
02:55:06,900 --> 02:55:09,220
Rep. Brian Poe: In other words, highly centralized.

1922
02:55:09,660 --> 02:55:20,020
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, for the longest time, for the past decade, the budget of the DICT has been centralized in the Secretary's office.

1923
02:55:20,020 --> 02:55:23,020
Rep. Brian Poe: But that doesn't necessarily mean...

1924
02:55:23,280 --> 02:55:26,540
Rep. Brian Poe: That the DICT agrees that this is how it should remain.

1925
02:55:26,540 --> 02:55:36,580
Rep. Brian Poe: In fact, there are steps being taken between the DICT and DBM to push towards decentralization of the fund that's being given to DICT

1926
02:55:36,580 --> 02:55:42,900
Rep. Brian Poe: so that we don't have 90% of the budget being allocated to the Secretary's office year after year.

1927
02:55:43,020 --> 02:55:50,180
Rep. Brian Poe: As our ICT concerns evolve, and to make sure that the distribution of ICT services is more equitable,

1928
02:55:50,180 --> 02:55:53,180
Rep. Brian Poe: the argument for decentralization becomes more and more...

1929
02:55:53,280 --> 02:55:53,740
Rep. Brian Poe: the argument for decentralization becomes more and more clear.

1930
02:55:55,760 --> 02:55:58,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright. So, but ano ba yung reason?

1931
02:55:58,800 --> 02:56:04,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is it historical? Is it because relatively bagong department ng DICT?

1932
02:56:04,660 --> 02:56:05,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano pong dahilan?

1933
02:56:07,400 --> 02:56:12,720
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yes, it's historical, but it's also because of the capacity of the regional offices.

1934
02:56:13,320 --> 02:56:16,280
Rep. Brian Poe: Sa totoo lang po, medyo bata pa ang ahensya.

1935
02:56:16,520 --> 02:56:22,860
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yung mga regional offices po natin need to get up to speed in terms of technical capability and manpower

1936
02:56:23,200 --> 02:56:25,160
Rep. Brian Poe: able to address decentralization

1937
02:56:25,160 --> 02:56:26,460
Rep. Brian Poe: from the Secretary's office.

1938
02:56:27,600 --> 02:56:28,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

1939
02:56:29,820 --> 02:56:31,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So now let's

1940
02:56:31,100 --> 02:56:33,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: let me focus on actually during

1941
02:56:33,140 --> 02:56:34,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the budget briefings

1942
02:56:34,500 --> 02:56:36,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget briefing of the

1943
02:56:36,840 --> 02:56:38,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: DICT, I

1944
02:56:38,760 --> 02:56:41,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: honed in on the

1945
02:56:41,060 --> 02:56:42,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Government Data

1946
02:56:42,900 --> 02:56:44,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Center Infrastructure

1947
02:56:44,500 --> 02:56:46,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Program. So

1948
02:56:46,900 --> 02:56:48,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the proposed

1949
02:56:48,660 --> 02:56:50,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: appropriation for 2027

1950
02:56:50,860 --> 02:56:52,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is 949

1951
02:56:52,160 --> 02:56:54,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: .49 million pesos

1952
02:56:54,880 --> 02:56:56,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of which

1953
02:56:56,500 --> 02:56:57,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 806 million

1954
02:56:57,800 --> 02:57:00,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is MOE and

1955
02:57:00,360 --> 02:57:02,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 143.4 million

1956
02:57:02,280 --> 02:57:04,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is

1957
02:57:04,320 --> 02:57:06,340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: capital outlay.

1958
02:57:07,180 --> 02:57:08,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. And

1959
02:57:08,400 --> 02:57:10,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lump sum. Actually yung

1960
02:57:10,300 --> 02:57:12,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangisang observation natin dito

1961
02:57:12,020 --> 02:57:13,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na

1962
02:57:13,100 --> 02:57:16,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: concentrated sa central office

1963
02:57:16,520 --> 02:57:17,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga

1964
02:57:17,740 --> 02:57:20,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: programs

1965
02:57:20,140 --> 02:57:22,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DICT, yung appropriation

1966
02:57:22,160 --> 02:57:23,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the programs and

1967
02:57:23,900 --> 02:57:25,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the other point being

1968
02:57:25,480 --> 02:57:27,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lump sum sila lahat.

1969
02:57:28,760 --> 02:57:28,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

1970
02:57:29,980 --> 02:57:32,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So dahil hindi natin

1971
02:57:32,460 --> 02:57:34,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iisa-isahin yung mga programa, dito na lang

1972
02:57:34,480 --> 02:57:36,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po tayo mag-focus tayo sa National

1973
02:57:36,200 --> 02:57:38,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Government Data Center Infrastructure.

1974
02:57:38,820 --> 02:57:40,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala po kasing provided breakdown.

1975
02:57:40,760 --> 02:57:42,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I actually asked for

1976
02:57:42,040 --> 02:57:44,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a breakdown of this.

1977
02:57:45,360 --> 02:57:45,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I was given

1978
02:57:45,980 --> 02:57:47,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: some data.

1979
02:57:48,580 --> 02:57:49,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But it's a

1980
02:57:49,640 --> 02:57:50,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito po.

1981
02:57:52,160 --> 02:57:52,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I was given

1982
02:57:52,800 --> 02:57:54,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: some data. It's a list of

1983
02:57:54,860 --> 02:57:56,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national government data

1984
02:57:56,760 --> 02:57:58,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: center projects

1985
02:57:58,280 --> 02:58:00,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from fiscal year 2016

1986
02:58:00,980 --> 02:58:02,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to

1987
02:58:02,140 --> 02:58:05,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: really

1988
02:58:05,000 --> 02:58:05,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's 2025

1989
02:58:05,960 --> 02:58:08,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with one or two projects from

1990
02:58:08,560 --> 02:58:09,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026.

1991
02:58:11,220 --> 02:58:12,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Exactly two projects

1992
02:58:12,720 --> 02:58:13,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from 2026.

1993
02:58:14,680 --> 02:58:16,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So I

1994
02:58:16,040 --> 02:58:17,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: will get to this.

1995
02:58:18,980 --> 02:58:21,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But that does not answer

1996
02:58:21,020 --> 02:58:21,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: my

1997
02:58:22,160 --> 02:58:24,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: question regarding

1998
02:58:24,600 --> 02:58:26,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang breakdown

1999
02:58:26,820 --> 02:58:29,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nitong NGDC

2000
02:58:29,300 --> 02:58:30,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: infrastructure

2001
02:58:30,640 --> 02:58:31,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget line.

2002
02:58:33,680 --> 02:58:34,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para saan po ito?

2003
02:58:43,660 --> 02:58:44,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay.

2004
02:58:45,100 --> 02:58:46,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yeah, I have it here.

2005
02:58:47,880 --> 02:58:48,350
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2006
02:58:48,350 --> 02:58:48,960
Rep. Brian Poe: So for

2007
02:58:48,960 --> 02:58:49,500
Rep. Brian Poe: the breakdown,

2008
02:58:50,120 --> 02:58:52,140
Rep. Brian Poe: if I may, but I'm going to ask you.

2009
02:58:52,160 --> 02:58:54,860
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, e-government data center,

2010
02:58:54,860 --> 02:59:03,420
Rep. Brian Poe: Subic operations is 700, sorry, 78.126 million pesos. E-government

2011
02:59:03,420 --> 02:59:05,320
Rep. Brian Poe: colocation services.

2012
02:59:05,320 --> 02:59:07,260
Rep. Brian Poe: This would be the cloud services

2013
02:59:07,260 --> 02:59:09,100
Rep. Brian Poe: here in the Philippines

2014
02:59:09,100 --> 02:59:13,720
Rep. Brian Poe: amounts to 203.861

2015
02:59:13,720 --> 02:59:15,140
Rep. Brian Poe: million pesos

2016
02:59:15,140 --> 02:59:17,460
Rep. Brian Poe: e-government cloud hosting services.

2017
02:59:17,460 --> 02:59:18,620
Rep. Brian Poe: This is now

2018
02:59:18,620 --> 02:59:21,120
Rep. Brian Poe: the hosting abroad

2019
02:59:21,120 --> 02:59:22,140
Rep. Brian Poe: is 490.557 million pesos MOE

2020
02:59:22,160 --> 02:59:48,780
Rep. Brian Poe: plus 143.495 million pesos capital outlay for a total of 634.052 million pesos, and the project management operations is at 33.458 million pesos in terms of the MOE.

2021
02:59:48,780 --> 02:59:49,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: All right.

2022
02:59:49,780 --> 02:59:50,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, thank you for that.

2023
02:59:50,780 --> 02:59:51,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So generally,

2024
02:59:51,720 --> 02:59:53,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung categories are

2025
02:59:53,220 --> 02:59:56,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano nga po yung una?

2026
02:59:57,540 --> 02:59:59,080
Rep. Brian Poe: So it's just the first one.

2027
02:59:59,120 --> 02:59:59,720
Rep. Brian Poe: The two big

2028
02:59:59,720 --> 03:00:00,120
Rep. Brian Poe: chunks.

2029
03:00:00,760 --> 03:00:02,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: One is co-location.

2030
03:00:02,200 --> 03:00:03,960
Rep. Brian Poe: One is co-location. That's about 200

2031
03:00:03,960 --> 03:00:04,550
Rep. Brian Poe: plus million.

2032
03:00:04,550 --> 03:00:05,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The other is cloud services.

2033
03:00:05,960 --> 03:00:07,560
Rep. Brian Poe: It's cloud services and that's 400 plus.

2034
03:00:07,560 --> 03:00:09,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero yung una nyo, I forgot. Ano nga yung

2035
03:00:09,920 --> 03:00:10,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: unang binanggit mo?

2036
03:00:10,920 --> 03:00:11,880
Rep. Brian Poe: Here, I'll

2037
03:00:11,880 --> 03:00:13,240
Rep. Brian Poe: go over it again real quick.

2038
03:00:15,740 --> 03:00:17,820
Rep. Brian Poe: So, ito po. Ang e-gov

2039
03:00:17,820 --> 03:00:19,860
Rep. Brian Poe: data center, Subic.

2040
03:00:19,860 --> 03:00:21,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay. It's just for the Subic

2041
03:00:21,280 --> 03:00:23,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center. Okay, right.

2042
03:00:24,300 --> 03:00:25,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so yun nga.

2043
03:00:25,780 --> 03:00:26,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi looking at this

2044
03:00:26,820 --> 03:00:29,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the data,

2045
03:00:30,000 --> 03:00:31,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay, so

2046
03:00:31,240 --> 03:00:33,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: basically what you shared

2047
03:00:33,380 --> 03:00:35,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: follows the pattern from

2048
03:00:35,400 --> 03:00:37,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the recent years.

2049
03:00:38,520 --> 03:00:39,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2023,

2050
03:00:39,840 --> 03:00:41,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2024, and so on. Okay,

2051
03:00:41,800 --> 03:00:43,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I hope, hindi ko alam kung ready na yung

2052
03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:47,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ready na ba?

2053
03:00:47,700 --> 03:00:49,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baka hindi pa eh.

2054
03:00:49,980 --> 03:00:51,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung slide.

2055
03:00:51,780 --> 03:00:52,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

2056
03:00:53,080 --> 03:00:55,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayan.

2057
03:00:56,240 --> 03:00:57,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so this is

2058
03:00:57,680 --> 03:00:59,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a visualization of

2059
03:00:59,260 --> 03:01:01,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the list of projects

2060
03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:02,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that I was provided.

2061
03:01:04,040 --> 03:01:04,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

2062
03:01:04,260 --> 03:01:04,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

2063
03:01:05,140 --> 03:01:05,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Noong

2064
03:01:05,880 --> 03:01:09,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DICT. So, I was, ito nga,

2065
03:01:09,740 --> 03:01:10,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the title of the

2066
03:01:10,820 --> 03:01:13,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: submission is list of

2067
03:01:13,500 --> 03:01:15,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NGDC projects

2068
03:01:15,160 --> 03:01:17,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from fiscal year 2016

2069
03:01:17,240 --> 03:01:20,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to fiscal year 2026.

2070
03:01:20,740 --> 03:01:21,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, one decade

2071
03:01:21,620 --> 03:01:22,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of

2072
03:01:22,740 --> 03:01:25,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: appropriations or investment

2073
03:01:25,160 --> 03:01:27,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the national

2074
03:01:27,540 --> 03:01:28,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government

2075
03:01:29,260 --> 03:01:32,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center project or program.

2076
03:01:32,720 --> 03:01:35,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, and it lists

2077
03:01:35,920 --> 03:01:37,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a total of

2078
03:01:37,260 --> 03:01:41,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: total of

2079
03:01:41,260 --> 03:01:43,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 73 projects.

2080
03:01:43,740 --> 03:01:45,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 73 projects.

2081
03:01:45,400 --> 03:01:47,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I say 73 here,

2082
03:01:48,640 --> 03:01:49,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: although curiously,

2083
03:01:51,320 --> 03:01:55,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you see that the

2084
03:01:55,240 --> 03:01:56,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: table here,

2085
03:01:57,520 --> 03:01:58,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: item number, itemized eh,

2086
03:01:59,260 --> 03:02:01,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 73. Pero yung item number

2087
03:02:01,800 --> 03:02:04,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 70 is skipped over.

2088
03:02:05,840 --> 03:02:06,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baka naman,

2089
03:02:07,000 --> 03:02:08,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: typographical error lang yun, o

2090
03:02:08,980 --> 03:02:10,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baka naman may

2091
03:02:10,860 --> 03:02:11,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dinilit kayo.

2092
03:02:12,260 --> 03:02:14,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi nyo po makikita dyan, dun sa submission nyo.

2093
03:02:15,220 --> 03:02:16,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: If you look at the submission,

2094
03:02:16,780 --> 03:02:17,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the sponsor,

2095
03:02:19,180 --> 03:02:20,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the one that was given me,

2096
03:02:23,180 --> 03:02:23,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the list,

2097
03:02:26,660 --> 03:02:27,960
Rep. Brian Poe: ito, wala kayo?

2098
03:02:27,960 --> 03:02:28,980
Rep. Brian Poe: I have a copy po.

2099
03:02:29,260 --> 03:02:30,480
Rep. Brian Poe: If I may request,

2100
03:02:31,300 --> 03:02:33,600
Rep. Brian Poe: could we request maybe one of the pages

2101
03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:36,020
Rep. Brian Poe: para I can take a look at it?

2102
03:02:53,360 --> 03:02:54,320
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker,

2103
03:02:54,540 --> 03:02:55,880
Rep. Brian Poe: I am now in possession of the

2104
03:02:55,880 --> 03:02:58,880
Rep. Brian Poe: document being referred to.

2105
03:02:59,260 --> 03:03:01,680
Rep. Brian Poe: These are the list of

2106
03:03:01,680 --> 03:03:03,940
Rep. Brian Poe: NGDC projects

2107
03:03:03,940 --> 03:03:05,040
Rep. Brian Poe: from fiscal year

2108
03:03:05,040 --> 03:03:07,740
Rep. Brian Poe: 2016 to fiscal year

2109
03:03:07,740 --> 03:03:08,780
Rep. Brian Poe: 2026.

2110
03:03:09,180 --> 03:03:11,920
Rep. Brian Poe: It has a total of 73 projects

2111
03:03:11,920 --> 03:03:12,980
Rep. Brian Poe: but the

2112
03:03:12,980 --> 03:03:15,600
Rep. Brian Poe: my colleague is correct

2113
03:03:15,600 --> 03:03:17,860
Rep. Brian Poe: in which it goes

2114
03:03:17,860 --> 03:03:19,660
Rep. Brian Poe: up to 73

2115
03:03:19,660 --> 03:03:20,260
Rep. Brian Poe: items

2116
03:03:20,260 --> 03:03:23,780
Rep. Brian Poe: but it does skip number 70.

2117
03:03:24,800 --> 03:03:25,560
Rep. Brian Poe: And

2118
03:03:25,560 --> 03:03:27,760
Rep. Brian Poe: I'm not sure why.

2119
03:03:27,760 --> 03:03:28,640
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay, hold on.

2120
03:03:29,260 --> 03:03:31,260
Rep. Brian Poe: I'm not sure with DICT but

2121
03:03:31,260 --> 03:03:35,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it also seems to go

2122
03:03:35,700 --> 03:03:36,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: clarification lang

2123
03:03:36,840 --> 03:03:39,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: backward because it's 2025

2124
03:03:39,280 --> 03:03:41,640
Rep. Brian Poe: Yeah, and also the ordering has been

2125
03:03:41,640 --> 03:03:42,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Right.

2126
03:03:42,800 --> 03:03:44,520
Rep. Brian Poe: But there's basically

2127
03:03:44,520 --> 03:03:46,480
Rep. Brian Poe: there's one missing project.

2128
03:03:52,780 --> 03:03:54,940
Rep. Brian Poe: We're currently going through it.

2129
03:03:55,120 --> 03:03:56,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, anyway, I just

2130
03:03:56,140 --> 03:03:58,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: noticed that off the bat.

2131
03:03:59,260 --> 03:04:00,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

2132
03:04:00,140 --> 03:04:01,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So anyway, if there's an explanation,

2133
03:04:01,840 --> 03:04:03,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: then okay.

2134
03:04:03,860 --> 03:04:05,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, well, anyway,

2135
03:04:05,200 --> 03:04:07,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what was submitted was 72,

2136
03:04:07,640 --> 03:04:12,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 72 rather than 73 entries or projects

2137
03:04:12,040 --> 03:04:16,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: totaling from fiscal year 2016 to 2026

2138
03:04:16,800 --> 03:04:19,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: totaling 4.98 billion.

2139
03:04:19,240 --> 03:04:21,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yun yung total po yan pag sinuman nyo.

2140
03:04:21,080 --> 03:04:23,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Even though it's not total there.

2141
03:04:23,020 --> 03:04:23,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

2142
03:04:23,740 --> 03:04:25,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2143
03:04:25,140 --> 03:04:26,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Um,

2144
03:04:29,260 --> 03:04:33,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, the general categories of spending.

2145
03:04:33,860 --> 03:04:35,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, kaya ako po hiningi

2146
03:04:35,240 --> 03:04:37,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil gusto ko rin sana magkaroon ng picture

2147
03:04:37,960 --> 03:04:39,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at maintindihan

2148
03:04:39,460 --> 03:04:41,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ba yung itsura nung

2149
03:04:41,880 --> 03:04:44,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

2150
03:04:44,000 --> 03:04:45,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung ating

2151
03:04:45,240 --> 03:04:46,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data

2152
03:04:46,840 --> 03:04:47,340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

2153
03:04:47,340 --> 03:04:49,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: center

2154
03:04:49,120 --> 03:04:49,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

2155
03:04:49,960 --> 03:04:51,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: capacity

2156
03:04:51,220 --> 03:04:52,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

2157
03:04:52,620 --> 03:04:53,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah

2158
03:04:53,460 --> 03:04:55,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within our

2159
03:04:55,720 --> 03:04:56,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

2160
03:04:56,700 --> 03:04:57,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: territory

2161
03:04:57,580 --> 03:04:59,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as well as yung cloud.

2162
03:04:59,260 --> 03:05:00,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon.

2163
03:05:00,260 --> 03:05:01,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon.

2164
03:05:01,260 --> 03:05:02,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2165
03:05:02,260 --> 03:05:03,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

2166
03:05:03,260 --> 03:05:05,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you look at

2167
03:05:05,260 --> 03:05:06,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you

2168
03:05:06,260 --> 03:05:08,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi ang pangalan ng proyekto,

2169
03:05:08,260 --> 03:05:11,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national government data center infrastructure eh.

2170
03:05:11,260 --> 03:05:12,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So presumably,

2171
03:05:12,260 --> 03:05:16,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this has been the one decade investment in building that

2172
03:05:16,260 --> 03:05:17,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

2173
03:05:17,260 --> 03:05:19,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center infrastructure.

2174
03:05:19,260 --> 03:05:21,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kumbaga, parang sovereign

2175
03:05:21,260 --> 03:05:22,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

2176
03:05:22,260 --> 03:05:24,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center infrastructure.

2177
03:05:24,260 --> 03:05:25,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And what do we see?

2178
03:05:25,260 --> 03:05:26,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

2179
03:05:26,260 --> 03:05:28,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the four general categories,

2180
03:05:28,260 --> 03:05:29,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2181
03:05:29,060 --> 03:05:31,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: categories of spend,

2182
03:05:31,060 --> 03:05:32,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2183
03:05:32,060 --> 03:05:34,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa aming, sa ginawa nating pagsusuri

2184
03:05:34,060 --> 03:05:35,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: would be

2185
03:05:35,060 --> 03:05:36,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung cloud

2186
03:05:36,060 --> 03:05:40,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and managed services procurement.

2187
03:05:40,060 --> 03:05:41,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya yun.

2188
03:05:41,060 --> 03:05:42,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos,

2189
03:05:42,060 --> 03:05:43,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: two,

2190
03:05:43,060 --> 03:05:45,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: collocation

2191
03:05:45,060 --> 03:05:46,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and space

2192
03:05:46,060 --> 03:05:48,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or rack lease.

2193
03:05:48,060 --> 03:05:49,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon.

2194
03:05:49,060 --> 03:05:50,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then three,

2195
03:05:50,060 --> 03:05:51,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: construction,

2196
03:05:51,060 --> 03:05:52,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no,

2197
03:05:52,060 --> 03:05:54,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and building of facilities.

2198
03:05:54,060 --> 03:05:57,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun yung actual na nagtayo ng infra.

2199
03:05:57,060 --> 03:05:58,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then,

2200
03:05:58,060 --> 03:05:59,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2201
03:05:59,060 --> 03:06:00,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: four,

2202
03:06:00,060 --> 03:06:02,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is the smallest one,

2203
03:06:02,060 --> 03:06:03,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: purchase of network,

2204
03:06:03,060 --> 03:06:04,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equipment,

2205
03:06:04,060 --> 03:06:06,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: consultants and others.

2206
03:06:06,060 --> 03:06:07,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2207
03:06:07,060 --> 03:06:08,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pa nga isa dyan,

2208
03:06:08,060 --> 03:06:09,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano eh,

2209
03:06:09,060 --> 03:06:11,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: purchase of meals for a

2210
03:06:11,060 --> 03:06:12,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: conference.

2211
03:06:12,060 --> 03:06:13,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2212
03:06:13,060 --> 03:06:14,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nandyan po.

2213
03:06:14,060 --> 03:06:15,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2214
03:06:15,060 --> 03:06:16,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But,

2215
03:06:16,060 --> 03:06:17,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon,

2216
03:06:17,060 --> 03:06:19,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang makikita rin natin dito,

2217
03:06:19,060 --> 03:06:20,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the,

2218
03:06:20,060 --> 03:06:21,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2219
03:06:21,060 --> 03:06:25,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: program of national government data center infrastructure.

2220
03:06:25,060 --> 03:06:26,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually,

2221
03:06:26,060 --> 03:06:27,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2222
03:06:27,060 --> 03:06:29,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung i-

2223
03:06:29,060 --> 03:06:31,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proportionally,

2224
03:06:31,060 --> 03:06:32,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag titignan mo,

2225
03:06:32,060 --> 03:06:34,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 75 percent

2226
03:06:34,060 --> 03:06:35,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is,

2227
03:06:35,060 --> 03:06:36,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: goes to rent.

2228
03:06:36,060 --> 03:06:37,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then,

2229
03:06:37,060 --> 03:06:38,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga 25 percent,

2230
03:06:38,060 --> 03:06:40,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung actual build.

2231
03:06:40,060 --> 03:06:41,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2232
03:06:41,060 --> 03:06:42,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

2233
03:06:42,060 --> 03:06:43,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: most of the budget for that,

2234
03:06:43,060 --> 03:06:44,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2235
03:06:44,060 --> 03:06:46,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: one decade of spending has gone to

2236
03:06:46,060 --> 03:06:47,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renting

2237
03:06:47,060 --> 03:06:49,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as against building.

2238
03:06:49,060 --> 03:06:50,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2239
03:06:50,060 --> 03:06:51,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah,

2240
03:06:51,060 --> 03:06:53,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos,

2241
03:06:53,060 --> 03:06:55,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2242
03:06:55,060 --> 03:06:56,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kapansin-pansin din.

2243
03:06:56,060 --> 03:06:57,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually,

2244
03:06:57,060 --> 03:06:59,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na,

2245
03:06:59,060 --> 03:07:01,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: though I have not totaled it,

2246
03:07:01,060 --> 03:07:02,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but,

2247
03:07:02,060 --> 03:07:04,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a significant portion,

2248
03:07:04,060 --> 03:07:06,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if not the biggest portion,

2249
03:07:06,060 --> 03:07:09,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the 4 billion has gone to

2250
03:07:09,060 --> 03:07:12,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cloud and managed services.

2251
03:07:12,060 --> 03:07:14,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung kulay blue.

2252
03:07:14,060 --> 03:07:17,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung kulay blue dyan sa ating visualization.

2253
03:07:17,060 --> 03:07:18,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And especially,

2254
03:07:18,060 --> 03:07:19,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: since,

2255
03:07:20,060 --> 03:07:21,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2023,

2256
03:07:21,060 --> 03:07:22,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kitang kita natin,

2257
03:07:22,060 --> 03:07:23,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no,

2258
03:07:23,060 --> 03:07:24,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung paglaki nung,

2259
03:07:24,060 --> 03:07:25,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2260
03:07:25,060 --> 03:07:27,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag-paglaan ng pondo

2261
03:07:27,060 --> 03:07:29,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for cloud and managed services,

2262
03:07:29,060 --> 03:07:35,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 734 million for fiscal year 2023,

2263
03:07:35,060 --> 03:07:38,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 809 million for 2024,

2264
03:07:38,060 --> 03:07:44,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and 226 million for 2025.

2265
03:07:44,060 --> 03:07:47,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Itong 2026,

2266
03:07:47,060 --> 03:07:48,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, sabi ko nga,

2267
03:07:48,060 --> 03:07:49,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung listahan,

2268
03:07:49,060 --> 03:07:50,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi nakabatay sa listahan yan eh.

2269
03:07:50,060 --> 03:07:51,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

2270
03:07:51,060 --> 03:07:52,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2271
03:07:52,060 --> 03:07:53,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pa.

2272
03:07:53,060 --> 03:07:54,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And,

2273
03:07:54,060 --> 03:07:56,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the breakdown that you gave,

2274
03:07:56,060 --> 03:07:58,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: correct me if I'm wrong,

2275
03:07:58,060 --> 03:07:59,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

2276
03:07:59,060 --> 03:08:00,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Speaker,

2277
03:08:00,060 --> 03:08:02,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

2278
03:08:02,060 --> 03:08:03,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama ba?

2279
03:08:03,060 --> 03:08:05,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinakamalaki pa rin yung cloud.

2280
03:08:05,060 --> 03:08:06,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that correct?

2281
03:08:06,060 --> 03:08:07,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That's correct,

2282
03:08:07,060 --> 03:08:08,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker.

2283
03:08:08,060 --> 03:08:09,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Apo.

2284
03:08:09,060 --> 03:08:10,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2285
03:08:10,060 --> 03:08:11,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

2286
03:08:12,060 --> 03:08:13,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay.

2287
03:08:13,060 --> 03:08:15,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that's one observation.

2288
03:08:15,060 --> 03:08:17,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The other observation,

2289
03:08:17,060 --> 03:08:20,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron po bang explanation doon

2290
03:08:20,060 --> 03:08:23,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa procurement of cloud services?

2291
03:08:23,060 --> 03:08:24,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2292
03:08:24,060 --> 03:08:25,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Well,

2293
03:08:25,060 --> 03:08:26,060
Rep. Brian Poe: from,

2294
03:08:26,060 --> 03:08:27,060
Rep. Brian Poe: from my understanding,

2295
03:08:27,060 --> 03:08:28,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker,

2296
03:08:28,060 --> 03:08:29,060
Rep. Brian Poe: ah,

2297
03:08:29,060 --> 03:08:30,060
Rep. Brian Poe: the,

2298
03:08:30,060 --> 03:08:31,060
Rep. Brian Poe: there's an urgent need kasi

2299
03:08:31,060 --> 03:08:32,060
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to store the data right away.

2300
03:08:32,060 --> 03:08:33,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Building the data centers takes time

2301
03:08:33,060 --> 03:08:34,060
Rep. Brian Poe: and takes additional funding.

2302
03:08:34,060 --> 03:08:35,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay.

2303
03:08:35,060 --> 03:08:36,060
Rep. Brian Poe: If we're to immediately address the needs

2304
03:08:36,060 --> 03:08:37,060
Rep. Brian Poe: of government agencies

2305
03:08:37,060 --> 03:08:38,060
Rep. Brian Poe: and our constituents,

2306
03:08:38,060 --> 03:08:39,060
Rep. Brian Poe: we have to immediately first procure the cloud services.

2307
03:08:39,060 --> 03:08:40,060
Rep. Brian Poe: And then,

2308
03:08:40,060 --> 03:08:41,060
Rep. Brian Poe: whatever is left over,

2309
03:08:41,060 --> 03:08:42,060
Rep. Brian Poe: we can now invest this into

2310
03:08:42,060 --> 03:08:43,060
Rep. Brian Poe: physical infrastructure here in the Philippines.

2311
03:08:43,060 --> 03:08:44,060
Rep. Brian Poe: So,

2312
03:08:52,060 --> 03:08:53,080
Rep. Brian Poe: a base structure here in the Philippines

2313
03:08:53,080 --> 03:08:55,060
Rep. Brian Poe: which will take time to build and develop,

2314
03:08:55,060 --> 03:08:56,060
Rep. Brian Poe: maintain

2315
03:08:56,060 --> 03:08:58,060
Rep. Brian Poe: and we have to hire staff for it pa.

2316
03:08:58,060 --> 03:08:59,060
Rep. Brian Poe: So,

2317
03:08:59,060 --> 03:09:02,060
Rep. Brian Poe: if we're working with the limited budget that we currently have,

2318
03:09:02,060 --> 03:09:06,060
Rep. Brian Poe: the initial funds always go to cloud services

2319
03:09:06,060 --> 03:09:08,060
Rep. Brian Poe: and also

2320
03:09:08,060 --> 03:09:09,060
Rep. Brian Poe: and co-location services.

2321
03:09:09,060 --> 03:09:10,060
Rep. Brian Poe: However,

2322
03:09:10,060 --> 03:09:11,060
Rep. Brian Poe: if you ask this representation

2323
03:09:11,060 --> 03:09:13,060
Rep. Brian Poe: and the members of the DICT,

2324
03:09:13,060 --> 03:09:16,060
Rep. Brian Poe: all of us are in favor of additional funding

2325
03:09:16,060 --> 03:09:19,060
Rep. Brian Poe: for physical infrastructure housed here in the Philippines

2326
03:09:19,060 --> 03:09:21,060
Rep. Brian Poe: for data sovereignty purposes.

2327
03:09:21,060 --> 03:09:21,440
Rep. Brian Poe: purposes.

2328
03:09:22,640 --> 03:09:24,080
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yung actual

2329
03:09:24,080 --> 03:09:26,440
Rep. Brian Poe: construction,

2330
03:09:27,180 --> 03:09:29,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung actual na ginawa ng gobyerno,

2331
03:09:29,260 --> 03:09:30,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag-aari ng gobyerno, presumably,

2332
03:09:31,620 --> 03:09:32,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they happened in

2333
03:09:32,980 --> 03:09:34,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2017. So, yung green.

2334
03:09:35,780 --> 03:09:37,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2017, initially,

2335
03:09:37,780 --> 03:09:38,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 130

2336
03:09:38,360 --> 03:09:41,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: million. Tapos,

2337
03:09:41,500 --> 03:09:42,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung the next big one

2338
03:09:42,720 --> 03:09:43,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was

2339
03:09:43,660 --> 03:09:45,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2024.

2340
03:09:47,080 --> 03:09:48,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito yung data center sa Subic,

2341
03:09:48,860 --> 03:09:50,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 699 million.

2342
03:09:51,060 --> 03:09:51,950
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

2343
03:09:51,950 --> 03:09:53,140
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, that's correct.

2344
03:09:53,580 --> 03:09:54,130
Rep. Brian Poe: That's correct.

2345
03:09:54,130 --> 03:09:55,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Could the sponsor describe

2346
03:09:55,260 --> 03:09:56,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ba yung tinayo sa Subic?

2347
03:09:57,640 --> 03:09:59,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano meron tayo sa Subic, in short?

2348
03:09:59,820 --> 03:10:00,520
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, we have

2349
03:10:00,520 --> 03:10:03,080
Rep. Brian Poe: Subic, and that's why

2350
03:10:03,080 --> 03:10:04,780
Rep. Brian Poe: we're giving 78 million

2351
03:10:04,780 --> 03:10:07,240
Rep. Brian Poe: pesos for the MOE for that

2352
03:10:07,240 --> 03:10:08,420
Rep. Brian Poe: Subic operation.

2353
03:10:08,420 --> 03:10:08,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What does it do?

2354
03:10:09,020 --> 03:10:10,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What is it and what does it do?

2355
03:10:10,740 --> 03:10:13,200
Rep. Brian Poe: From my understanding, the Subic

2356
03:10:13,200 --> 03:10:15,040
Rep. Brian Poe: data center

2357
03:10:15,040 --> 03:10:16,780
Rep. Brian Poe: is used to store

2358
03:10:16,780 --> 03:10:19,100
Rep. Brian Poe: the critical government data that we

2359
03:10:19,100 --> 03:10:20,600
Rep. Brian Poe: spoke of earlier when

2360
03:10:20,600 --> 03:10:22,580
Rep. Brian Poe: Congressman Nazal was questioning

2361
03:10:22,580 --> 03:10:23,960
Rep. Brian Poe: how much of our critical

2362
03:10:23,960 --> 03:10:26,600
Rep. Brian Poe: data is stored. It's 20%,

2363
03:10:26,600 --> 03:10:28,680
Rep. Brian Poe: if I'm not mistaken, of our

2364
03:10:28,680 --> 03:10:30,400
Rep. Brian Poe: critical government data is stored in

2365
03:10:30,400 --> 03:10:32,480
Rep. Brian Poe: 20%.

2366
03:10:32,480 --> 03:10:34,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pwede natin sabihin yung

2367
03:10:34,820 --> 03:10:36,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the main

2368
03:10:36,180 --> 03:10:38,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center of the national

2369
03:10:38,620 --> 03:10:40,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government is the one in Subic.

2370
03:10:41,480 --> 03:10:42,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that correct?

2371
03:10:42,040 --> 03:10:42,860
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, that's

2372
03:10:42,860 --> 03:10:43,480
Rep. Brian Poe: correct.

2373
03:10:43,480 --> 03:10:44,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2374
03:10:45,820 --> 03:10:46,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, malaking

2375
03:10:46,920 --> 03:10:48,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bahagi ng spend

2376
03:10:48,440 --> 03:10:50,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is yung collocation nga.

2377
03:10:50,600 --> 03:10:51,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Collocation.

2378
03:10:52,320 --> 03:10:54,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for purposes of our

2379
03:10:54,460 --> 03:10:56,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: discussion, sabihin nung collocation,

2380
03:10:57,240 --> 03:10:58,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: rent. Tama po ba?

2381
03:10:59,100 --> 03:10:59,620
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

2382
03:10:59,620 --> 03:11:00,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, it's renting

2383
03:11:00,740 --> 03:11:02,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of space.

2384
03:11:02,680 --> 03:11:03,840
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

2385
03:11:03,840 --> 03:11:04,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: To house

2386
03:11:04,140 --> 03:11:07,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the actual compute

2387
03:11:07,860 --> 03:11:10,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the data center.

2388
03:11:11,220 --> 03:11:11,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama?

2389
03:11:11,800 --> 03:11:12,420
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yes,

2390
03:11:12,500 --> 03:11:14,460
Rep. Brian Poe: that is correct. The rental of fracks and

2391
03:11:14,460 --> 03:11:14,820
Rep. Brian Poe: servers.

2392
03:11:16,100 --> 03:11:18,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung, yung, mabagay,

2393
03:11:18,320 --> 03:11:20,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung bahay, yung facility,

2394
03:11:20,600 --> 03:11:22,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung building, the

2395
03:11:22,300 --> 03:11:24,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: racks, and

2396
03:11:24,300 --> 03:11:26,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung kuryente, so on

2397
03:11:26,560 --> 03:11:27,910
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so forth. Yun po yun.

2398
03:11:27,910 --> 03:11:28,600
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, this is

2399
03:11:28,600 --> 03:11:29,560
Rep. Brian Poe: correct.

2400
03:11:29,560 --> 03:11:30,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But not the actual

2401
03:11:30,400 --> 03:11:32,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: compute and networking

2402
03:11:32,360 --> 03:11:34,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equipment

2403
03:11:35,140 --> 03:11:36,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and infrastructure itself.

2404
03:11:37,040 --> 03:11:38,500
Rep. Brian Poe: It's not necessarily new

2405
03:11:38,500 --> 03:11:40,040
Rep. Brian Poe: infrastructure. It's more of

2406
03:11:40,040 --> 03:11:42,780
Rep. Brian Poe: rental of services from Globe, BLDT,

2407
03:11:42,840 --> 03:11:43,540
Rep. Brian Poe: and Converge.

2408
03:11:44,420 --> 03:11:46,520
Rep. Brian Poe: But co-located, so it's here in the

2409
03:11:46,520 --> 03:11:46,920
Rep. Brian Poe: Philippines.

2410
03:11:46,920 --> 03:11:50,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oo. Pero para malinawan lang ako,

2411
03:11:50,600 --> 03:11:52,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ninupahan lang doon, yung space,

2412
03:11:53,580 --> 03:11:54,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's not

2413
03:11:54,240 --> 03:11:56,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the, you know,

2414
03:11:56,720 --> 03:11:58,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the servers,

2415
03:11:59,100 --> 03:12:00,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: not the networking

2416
03:12:00,960 --> 03:12:02,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equipment, and so on.

2417
03:12:03,960 --> 03:12:04,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

2418
03:12:05,060 --> 03:12:06,660
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes. It's the space, so

2419
03:12:06,660 --> 03:12:08,680
Rep. Brian Poe: the agencies bring their servers to

2420
03:12:08,680 --> 03:12:10,030
Rep. Brian Poe: those rented spaces.

2421
03:12:10,030 --> 03:12:10,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oh, okay. Alright.

2422
03:12:11,260 --> 03:12:11,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

2423
03:12:12,920 --> 03:12:14,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well,

2424
03:12:14,520 --> 03:12:15,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun lang yung tanong ko dito.

2425
03:12:16,360 --> 03:12:17,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There's a lot of money

2426
03:12:17,560 --> 03:12:20,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in this budget is for co-location.

2427
03:12:20,600 --> 03:12:21,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

2428
03:12:21,600 --> 03:12:30,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang tanong natin,

2429
03:12:30,840 --> 03:12:32,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: how come there's no, I don't

2430
03:12:32,660 --> 03:12:34,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: find any spending

2431
03:12:34,300 --> 03:12:35,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the actual

2432
03:12:35,620 --> 03:12:38,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equipment

2433
03:12:38,360 --> 03:12:40,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for, you know, the computers,

2434
03:12:40,820 --> 03:12:42,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the servers, the

2435
03:12:42,040 --> 03:12:44,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: networking gear, and so on and so

2436
03:12:44,620 --> 03:12:45,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: forth? Wala po.

2437
03:12:47,000 --> 03:12:48,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bakit umuupa lang

2438
03:12:48,660 --> 03:12:49,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng space?

2439
03:12:50,600 --> 03:12:52,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong gamit nun?

2440
03:12:53,080 --> 03:12:53,930
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Please explain.

2441
03:12:53,930 --> 03:12:55,160
Rep. Brian Poe: That's a very fair

2442
03:12:55,160 --> 03:12:57,280
Rep. Brian Poe: question. We just don't have enough

2443
03:12:57,280 --> 03:12:59,240
Rep. Brian Poe: funding to build these data

2444
03:12:59,240 --> 03:13:01,120
Rep. Brian Poe: centers as required.

2445
03:13:01,420 --> 03:13:03,020
Rep. Brian Poe: We have enough funding to

2446
03:13:03,020 --> 03:13:05,040
Rep. Brian Poe: rent cloud

2447
03:13:05,040 --> 03:13:07,080
Rep. Brian Poe: space, but that money is not

2448
03:13:07,080 --> 03:13:08,760
Rep. Brian Poe: enough for us to build the necessary

2449
03:13:08,760 --> 03:13:11,240
Rep. Brian Poe: equipment that we would need

2450
03:13:11,240 --> 03:13:13,300
Rep. Brian Poe: to locally house

2451
03:13:13,300 --> 03:13:14,620
Rep. Brian Poe: our servers. Kung baka,

2452
03:13:15,000 --> 03:13:17,140
Rep. Brian Poe: we're given this

2453
03:13:17,140 --> 03:13:19,460
Rep. Brian Poe: small portion of what is actually

2454
03:13:19,460 --> 03:13:20,580
Rep. Brian Poe: required for,

2455
03:13:20,600 --> 03:13:22,480
Rep. Brian Poe: uh, actual infrastructure

2456
03:13:22,480 --> 03:13:24,480
Rep. Brian Poe: development. So, cloud services.

2457
03:13:24,920 --> 03:13:26,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, I understand. Parang ang intindi ko,

2458
03:13:27,460 --> 03:13:28,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: based on reading the

2459
03:13:28,620 --> 03:13:30,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: titles of the contracts,

2460
03:13:30,900 --> 03:13:32,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh, government is renting

2461
03:13:32,760 --> 03:13:33,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the

2462
03:13:33,980 --> 03:13:36,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: essentially parang

2463
03:13:36,160 --> 03:13:37,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: floor space,

2464
03:13:37,820 --> 03:13:40,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: di ba? But not the actual

2465
03:13:40,740 --> 03:13:41,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: compute.

2466
03:13:42,860 --> 03:13:44,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Floor space lang. So,

2467
03:13:44,600 --> 03:13:46,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: anong laman nun? Parang yung

2468
03:13:46,620 --> 03:13:48,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bahay lang. The shell.

2469
03:13:48,380 --> 03:13:50,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But what about the actual,

2470
03:13:50,600 --> 03:13:52,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the actual compute?

2471
03:13:56,260 --> 03:14:12,520
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yes, you're correct.

2472
03:14:12,760 --> 03:14:14,660
Rep. Brian Poe: Some of them do have the computing

2473
03:14:14,660 --> 03:14:16,740
Rep. Brian Poe: services included. However,

2474
03:14:17,160 --> 03:14:18,420
Rep. Brian Poe: for the ones that are literally

2475
03:14:18,420 --> 03:14:20,420
Rep. Brian Poe: just space, even

2476
03:14:20,420 --> 03:14:22,500
Rep. Brian Poe: that, the DICT doesn't have

2477
03:14:22,500 --> 03:14:24,460
Rep. Brian Poe: enough funding for them to build

2478
03:14:24,460 --> 03:14:26,560
Rep. Brian Poe: buildings, literal space,

2479
03:14:26,940 --> 03:14:28,640
Rep. Brian Poe: to house the physical servers

2480
03:14:28,640 --> 03:14:30,520
Rep. Brian Poe: needed by the different government

2481
03:14:30,520 --> 03:14:32,320
Rep. Brian Poe: agencies. 30, I believe.

2482
03:14:32,760 --> 03:14:34,400
Rep. Brian Poe: 34 government agencies.

2483
03:14:34,880 --> 03:14:36,520
Rep. Brian Poe: There's just, we don't have

2484
03:14:36,520 --> 03:14:38,020
Rep. Brian Poe: the buildings. DICT,

2485
03:14:38,480 --> 03:14:40,280
Rep. Brian Poe: your building, you just

2486
03:14:40,280 --> 03:14:41,060
Rep. Brian Poe: finished your building.

2487
03:14:42,080 --> 03:14:44,420
Rep. Brian Poe: Even DICT is just renting its own

2488
03:14:44,420 --> 03:14:46,420
Rep. Brian Poe: building, Madam Speaker.

2489
03:14:47,740 --> 03:14:48,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, naintindihan ko,

2490
03:14:49,180 --> 03:14:50,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renting, kasi,

2491
03:14:50,420 --> 03:14:51,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lang. Pero, anong,

2492
03:14:51,920 --> 03:14:54,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: anong ginagawa dun sa rented space na yun?

2493
03:14:55,320 --> 03:14:56,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, over

2494
03:14:56,720 --> 03:14:57,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this period, 10 years,

2495
03:14:58,080 --> 03:14:59,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.28 billion.

2496
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: across 33 contracts

2497
03:15:02,900 --> 03:15:04,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: are for

2498
03:15:04,080 --> 03:15:05,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: collocation.

2499
03:15:07,000 --> 03:15:08,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sinabi mo nga, PLDT,

2500
03:15:08,640 --> 03:15:10,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: et cetera, yun yung mga pinag-upahan.

2501
03:15:12,920 --> 03:15:14,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Many of these contracts are

2502
03:15:14,400 --> 03:15:15,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: short-term contracts,

2503
03:15:17,200 --> 03:15:18,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: three-month period, tapos

2504
03:15:18,520 --> 03:15:20,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nire-renew every three months

2505
03:15:20,560 --> 03:15:22,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for several

2506
03:15:22,440 --> 03:15:24,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: years. Anong

2507
03:15:24,440 --> 03:15:24,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: laman nun?

2508
03:15:26,780 --> 03:15:28,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayong wala namang

2509
03:15:28,520 --> 03:15:29,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reflected na budget,

2510
03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:32,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for compute.

2511
03:15:33,680 --> 03:15:34,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The servers.

2512
03:15:35,140 --> 03:15:35,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Where are the servers?

2513
03:15:36,720 --> 03:15:38,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Presumably, umupa tayo ng

2514
03:15:38,440 --> 03:15:40,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: space sa

2515
03:15:40,440 --> 03:15:43,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center ng PLDT

2516
03:15:43,040 --> 03:15:44,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para

2517
03:15:44,440 --> 03:15:46,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilagay natin yung

2518
03:15:46,200 --> 03:15:48,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga computer ng

2519
03:15:48,200 --> 03:15:48,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gobyerno

2520
03:15:48,920 --> 03:15:50,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to house

2521
03:15:50,520 --> 03:15:52,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para

2522
03:15:52,700 --> 03:15:57,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito

2523
03:15:57,660 --> 03:15:59,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito yung mga hawaks

2524
03:15:59,980 --> 03:16:00,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa data ng

2525
03:16:00,980 --> 03:16:02,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pamamayang Pilipino.

2526
03:16:03,700 --> 03:16:03,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba?

2527
03:16:05,140 --> 03:16:05,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero,

2528
03:16:06,960 --> 03:16:09,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang inupahan lang at binabayaran,

2529
03:16:10,020 --> 03:16:12,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binayaran ng a total of 1.2

2530
03:16:12,000 --> 03:16:14,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: billion is the space.

2531
03:16:15,520 --> 03:16:15,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay?

2532
03:16:16,080 --> 03:16:17,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, what's in that space?

2533
03:16:29,980 --> 03:16:32,420
Rep. Brian Poe: they put their own.

2534
03:16:33,020 --> 03:16:33,680
Rep. Brian Poe: So, for example,

2535
03:16:33,800 --> 03:16:34,500
Rep. Brian Poe: customers put

2536
03:16:34,500 --> 03:16:35,120
Rep. Brian Poe: their own servers.

2537
03:16:36,260 --> 03:16:36,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2538
03:16:38,980 --> 03:16:39,620
Rep. Brian Poe: So,

2539
03:16:39,920 --> 03:16:41,000
Rep. Brian Poe: basically,

2540
03:16:41,460 --> 03:16:42,120
Rep. Brian Poe: for example,

2541
03:16:42,520 --> 03:16:43,600
Rep. Brian Poe: let's say,

2542
03:16:43,780 --> 03:16:44,320
Rep. Brian Poe: BIR,

2543
03:16:44,820 --> 03:16:45,340
Rep. Brian Poe: CIC,

2544
03:16:45,720 --> 03:16:46,520
Rep. Brian Poe: DICT,

2545
03:16:46,860 --> 03:16:47,220
Rep. Brian Poe: SEC,

2546
03:16:47,460 --> 03:16:47,880
Rep. Brian Poe: customs,

2547
03:16:48,260 --> 03:16:49,640
Rep. Brian Poe: they would rent the space.

2548
03:16:50,080 --> 03:16:51,500
Rep. Brian Poe: Some spaces have the servers

2549
03:16:51,500 --> 03:16:52,220
Rep. Brian Poe: and computation

2550
03:16:52,220 --> 03:16:53,700
Rep. Brian Poe: services available.

2551
03:16:54,320 --> 03:16:55,040
Rep. Brian Poe: Others are really

2552
03:16:55,040 --> 03:16:55,760
Rep. Brian Poe: just the space.

2553
03:16:55,900 --> 03:16:56,200
Rep. Brian Poe: And then,

2554
03:16:56,200 --> 03:16:57,500
Rep. Brian Poe: these agencies put

2555
03:16:57,500 --> 03:16:58,300
Rep. Brian Poe: their own servers

2556
03:16:58,300 --> 03:16:59,300
Rep. Brian Poe: in that space.

2557
03:16:59,980 --> 03:17:01,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2558
03:17:01,520 --> 03:17:03,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun pala yun.

2559
03:17:03,840 --> 03:17:04,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in other words,

2560
03:17:04,720 --> 03:17:05,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: DIC acts as the

2561
03:17:05,780 --> 03:17:06,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: procurer

2562
03:17:06,540 --> 03:17:07,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for

2563
03:17:07,820 --> 03:17:10,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ba tawag diyan?

2564
03:17:10,460 --> 03:17:11,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Colocation space

2565
03:17:11,980 --> 03:17:14,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for other government agencies.

2566
03:17:14,620 --> 03:17:15,540
Rep. Brian Poe: Is that what you're saying?

2567
03:17:15,680 --> 03:17:16,660
Rep. Brian Poe: But, to be fair also,

2568
03:17:16,800 --> 03:17:18,180
Rep. Brian Poe: not all buildings

2569
03:17:18,180 --> 03:17:19,080
Rep. Brian Poe: can qualify

2570
03:17:19,080 --> 03:17:20,340
Rep. Brian Poe: as a space to put

2571
03:17:20,340 --> 03:17:21,260
Rep. Brian Poe: a server.

2572
03:17:21,900 --> 03:17:21,980
Rep. Brian Poe: No?

2573
03:17:22,200 --> 03:17:23,440
Rep. Brian Poe: We need their

2574
03:17:23,440 --> 03:17:24,920
Rep. Brian Poe: redundancy requirements,

2575
03:17:25,360 --> 03:17:26,680
Rep. Brian Poe: energy requirements,

2576
03:17:26,780 --> 03:17:27,500
Rep. Brian Poe: as well as

2577
03:17:27,500 --> 03:17:28,700
Rep. Brian Poe: temperature requirements,

2578
03:17:28,820 --> 03:17:29,180
Rep. Brian Poe: et cetera.

2579
03:17:29,980 --> 03:17:31,260
Rep. Brian Poe: Not everyone would be able

2580
03:17:31,260 --> 03:17:32,240
Rep. Brian Poe: to qualify for that,

2581
03:17:32,420 --> 03:17:33,060
Rep. Brian Poe: which is why

2582
03:17:33,060 --> 03:17:35,120
Rep. Brian Poe: the DICT needs to provide

2583
03:17:35,120 --> 03:17:36,660
Rep. Brian Poe: the co-location services

2584
03:17:36,660 --> 03:17:38,700
Rep. Brian Poe: and find the proper

2585
03:17:38,700 --> 03:17:39,980
Rep. Brian Poe: private sector entities

2586
03:17:39,980 --> 03:17:41,040
Rep. Brian Poe: within the Philippines

2587
03:17:41,040 --> 03:17:42,020
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to house

2588
03:17:42,020 --> 03:17:43,760
Rep. Brian Poe: critical government information.

2589
03:17:43,900 --> 03:17:44,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, yeah.

2590
03:17:44,320 --> 03:17:45,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Most of these contracts,

2591
03:17:45,520 --> 03:17:45,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 33 contracts,

2592
03:17:46,800 --> 03:17:49,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 18 have gone to

2593
03:17:49,000 --> 03:17:50,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: EPLDT Incorporated

2594
03:17:50,960 --> 03:17:53,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from 2020 to 2022.

2595
03:17:54,620 --> 03:17:56,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, you have other...

2596
03:17:56,080 --> 03:17:57,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are well-known players,

2597
03:17:57,840 --> 03:17:59,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presumably in the industry,

2598
03:17:59,400 --> 03:17:59,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: like Vita,

2599
03:17:59,980 --> 03:18:01,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nitro Incorporated,

2600
03:18:02,100 --> 03:18:03,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which is also connected

2601
03:18:03,140 --> 03:18:04,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to PLDT,

2602
03:18:04,960 --> 03:18:05,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Inove,

2603
03:18:05,800 --> 03:18:06,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on and so forth.

2604
03:18:07,560 --> 03:18:08,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun.

2605
03:18:08,600 --> 03:18:08,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2606
03:18:09,040 --> 03:18:10,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naintindi lang natin

2607
03:18:10,020 --> 03:18:11,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung role ng...

2608
03:18:11,960 --> 03:18:13,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano yung gamit ng budget

2609
03:18:13,100 --> 03:18:13,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DICT?

2610
03:18:13,880 --> 03:18:15,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagre-rent kayo ng space.

2611
03:18:15,500 --> 03:18:16,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, hindi necessarily

2612
03:18:16,600 --> 03:18:18,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama doon yung compute.

2613
03:18:18,500 --> 03:18:19,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nagtataka ako

2614
03:18:19,480 --> 03:18:22,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung nasaan yung compute.

2615
03:18:22,580 --> 03:18:23,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O baka naman,

2616
03:18:23,220 --> 03:18:23,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: empty lang to.

2617
03:18:24,940 --> 03:18:25,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nag-rent kayo,

2618
03:18:26,120 --> 03:18:27,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may binabayarang kontrata,

2619
03:18:27,860 --> 03:18:29,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nire-renew every three months,

2620
03:18:29,260 --> 03:18:29,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero hindi naman

2621
03:18:29,900 --> 03:18:30,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pala nagagamit

2622
03:18:30,740 --> 03:18:31,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as data center.

2623
03:18:32,440 --> 03:18:32,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun ba?

2624
03:18:35,460 --> 03:18:36,840
Rep. Brian Poe: To be fair,

2625
03:18:37,000 --> 03:18:38,080
Rep. Brian Poe: these data centers

2626
03:18:38,080 --> 03:18:39,220
Rep. Brian Poe: are really used.

2627
03:18:39,700 --> 03:18:40,580
Rep. Brian Poe: Even if

2628
03:18:40,580 --> 03:18:42,360
Rep. Brian Poe: some of them

2629
03:18:42,360 --> 03:18:43,880
Rep. Brian Poe: have the computation services,

2630
03:18:44,220 --> 03:18:45,060
Rep. Brian Poe: the others do not.

2631
03:18:45,160 --> 03:18:46,520
Rep. Brian Poe: And they're really just a space

2632
03:18:46,520 --> 03:18:48,660
Rep. Brian Poe: wherein servers can be placed

2633
03:18:48,660 --> 03:18:50,480
Rep. Brian Poe: and can be functional.

2634
03:18:51,480 --> 03:18:53,660
Rep. Brian Poe: But they are 100% used

2635
03:18:53,660 --> 03:18:55,580
Rep. Brian Poe: by the different 34 agencies.

2636
03:18:56,620 --> 03:18:56,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright.

2637
03:18:57,060 --> 03:18:57,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, anyway,

2638
03:18:57,460 --> 03:18:58,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nire-raise natin yung question na yun.

2639
03:18:59,900 --> 03:19:02,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: My last set of questions.

2640
03:19:02,840 --> 03:19:04,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi, binabantayan na ako

2641
03:19:04,280 --> 03:19:06,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ni majority leader dito eh.

2642
03:19:07,640 --> 03:19:10,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung cloud services.

2643
03:19:10,720 --> 03:19:12,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malaking bahagi talaga

2644
03:19:12,140 --> 03:19:12,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung budget,

2645
03:19:12,880 --> 03:19:13,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: actually,

2646
03:19:13,380 --> 03:19:14,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: procurement of cloud services.

2647
03:19:18,240 --> 03:19:20,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, our observation there is,

2648
03:19:20,520 --> 03:19:20,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: let's see,

2649
03:19:24,720 --> 03:19:25,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is that

2650
03:19:25,320 --> 03:19:29,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there are 12

2651
03:19:29,400 --> 03:19:30,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: contracts for,

2652
03:19:30,860 --> 03:19:31,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if I'm not mistaken,

2653
03:19:33,220 --> 03:19:33,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay,

2654
03:19:33,780 --> 03:19:34,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 12 contracts

2655
03:19:34,780 --> 03:19:37,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for procurement of

2656
03:19:37,380 --> 03:19:38,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cloud services,

2657
03:19:39,160 --> 03:19:40,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but they make up

2658
03:19:40,380 --> 03:19:41,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 49.3%

2659
03:19:41,940 --> 03:19:43,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the total

2660
03:19:43,300 --> 03:19:45,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget,

2661
03:19:45,640 --> 03:19:47,340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2.45 billion

2662
03:19:47,340 --> 03:19:49,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: out of the more than 4 billion

2663
03:19:49,800 --> 03:19:52,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung procurement of cloud services.

2664
03:19:52,860 --> 03:19:54,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, from 2016

2665
03:19:54,200 --> 03:19:56,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to 2025.

2666
03:19:56,380 --> 03:19:56,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 25.

2667
03:19:57,060 --> 03:19:57,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At 25.

2668
03:19:57,620 --> 03:19:57,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

2669
03:19:59,400 --> 03:20:01,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang notable dito,

2670
03:20:02,120 --> 03:20:03,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mostly,

2671
03:20:03,600 --> 03:20:03,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may,

2672
03:20:03,780 --> 03:20:04,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may,

2673
03:20:04,560 --> 03:20:06,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in some of the titles,

2674
03:20:06,460 --> 03:20:07,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binabanggit,

2675
03:20:07,200 --> 03:20:07,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AWS,

2676
03:20:09,300 --> 03:20:10,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Google Cloud,

2677
03:20:10,460 --> 03:20:10,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Google,

2678
03:20:11,020 --> 03:20:12,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Google Cloud Platform,

2679
03:20:13,620 --> 03:20:14,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero yung iba,

2680
03:20:16,240 --> 03:20:20,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang description is

2681
03:20:20,660 --> 03:20:22,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Government Common Platform.

2682
03:20:22,840 --> 03:20:23,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, GCP.

2683
03:20:24,020 --> 03:20:24,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kala ko nung una,

2684
03:20:24,700 --> 03:20:25,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Google Cloud Platform.

2685
03:20:25,900 --> 03:20:26,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung pala,

2686
03:20:26,300 --> 03:20:28,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Government Common Platform.

2687
03:20:28,780 --> 03:20:29,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2688
03:20:29,400 --> 03:20:30,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well,

2689
03:20:31,820 --> 03:20:33,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang tanong really is,

2690
03:20:34,540 --> 03:20:36,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit parang may third party?

2691
03:20:37,480 --> 03:20:38,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, magpo-procure

2692
03:20:38,520 --> 03:20:39,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Google services,

2693
03:20:40,100 --> 03:20:41,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero hindi Google

2694
03:20:41,240 --> 03:20:42,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang kakontrata.

2695
03:20:42,760 --> 03:20:44,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There's a third party

2696
03:20:44,140 --> 03:20:45,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: vendor.

2697
03:20:47,040 --> 03:20:47,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bakit po ganun?

2698
03:20:52,960 --> 03:20:54,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker,

2699
03:20:54,260 --> 03:20:54,800
Rep. Brian Poe: this is actually...

2700
03:20:54,800 --> 03:20:55,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, third party vendors,

2701
03:20:55,880 --> 03:20:56,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if I may mention,

2702
03:20:56,740 --> 03:20:57,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for example,

2703
03:20:57,440 --> 03:20:58,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Vival Group,

2704
03:20:58,160 --> 03:20:59,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: plus

2705
03:20:59,420 --> 03:21:01,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PhilFox 2016

2706
03:21:01,520 --> 03:21:04,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for a contract

2707
03:21:04,460 --> 03:21:06,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: worth 372 million,

2708
03:21:07,360 --> 03:21:09,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MicroD International,

2709
03:21:10,820 --> 03:21:12,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maroon Studios,

2710
03:21:13,120 --> 03:21:15,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Crayon Software Experts,

2711
03:21:16,120 --> 03:21:17,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Multicore Technology,

2712
03:21:18,560 --> 03:21:19,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: then you also have

2713
03:21:19,280 --> 03:21:20,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: EPLDT,

2714
03:21:21,200 --> 03:21:22,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on.

2715
03:21:22,700 --> 03:21:23,880
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, Madam Speaker,

2716
03:21:24,160 --> 03:21:26,240
Rep. Brian Poe: if I may clarify,

2717
03:21:26,500 --> 03:21:26,720
Rep. Brian Poe: actually,

2718
03:21:26,720 --> 03:21:27,800
Rep. Brian Poe: this is a critical component,

2719
03:21:28,160 --> 03:21:29,640
Rep. Brian Poe: of national security

2720
03:21:29,640 --> 03:21:30,080
Rep. Brian Poe: because

2721
03:21:30,080 --> 03:21:31,820
Rep. Brian Poe: these are the companies

2722
03:21:31,820 --> 03:21:33,340
Rep. Brian Poe: that we can chase down.

2723
03:21:33,860 --> 03:21:35,060
Rep. Brian Poe: These are the local counterparts

2724
03:21:35,060 --> 03:21:36,340
Rep. Brian Poe: that are contracting

2725
03:21:36,340 --> 03:21:38,020
Rep. Brian Poe: the international services.

2726
03:21:38,500 --> 03:21:39,960
Rep. Brian Poe: So, if there is a breach of data,

2727
03:21:40,140 --> 03:21:40,880
Rep. Brian Poe: if there is anything

2728
03:21:40,880 --> 03:21:41,820
Rep. Brian Poe: that they need to be held

2729
03:21:41,820 --> 03:21:42,580
Rep. Brian Poe: accountable for,

2730
03:21:42,860 --> 03:21:44,040
Rep. Brian Poe: it's these local companies

2731
03:21:44,040 --> 03:21:44,980
Rep. Brian Poe: that we hold accountable.

2732
03:21:45,540 --> 03:21:46,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, so yun ang explanation.

2733
03:21:47,480 --> 03:21:49,080
Rep. Brian Poe: That's the reason why.

2734
03:21:49,200 --> 03:21:50,320
Rep. Brian Poe: Because we cannot directly

2735
03:21:50,320 --> 03:21:51,820
Rep. Brian Poe: give these contracts

2736
03:21:51,820 --> 03:21:53,440
Rep. Brian Poe: to these international entities.

2737
03:21:53,720 --> 03:21:54,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However,

2738
03:21:55,460 --> 03:21:56,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in 2022,

2739
03:21:56,320 --> 03:21:57,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there are subscribes,

2740
03:21:58,160 --> 03:22:00,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subscription, maintenance,

2741
03:22:00,160 --> 03:22:02,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: existing cloud infra

2742
03:22:02,160 --> 03:22:07,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for Amazon Web Services

2743
03:22:07,260 --> 03:22:10,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: worth 165 million,

2744
03:22:11,880 --> 03:22:13,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and it's directly with Amazon.

2745
03:22:14,960 --> 03:22:15,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bakit ganun?

2746
03:22:15,840 --> 03:22:17,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede naman pala diretsa eh.

2747
03:22:17,040 --> 03:22:17,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2748
03:22:28,160 --> 03:22:31,260
Rep. Brian Poe: So, that's correct.

2749
03:22:31,620 --> 03:22:33,540
Rep. Brian Poe: There was direct contracting before,

2750
03:22:34,040 --> 03:22:36,380
Rep. Brian Poe: but that served as the precursor

2751
03:22:36,380 --> 03:22:37,240
Rep. Brian Poe: for our current system

2752
03:22:37,240 --> 03:22:39,020
Rep. Brian Poe: because nagkaroon po

2753
03:22:39,020 --> 03:22:40,080
Rep. Brian Poe: ng legal issue.

2754
03:22:41,020 --> 03:22:42,960
Rep. Brian Poe: So, from that point on,

2755
03:22:43,260 --> 03:22:45,120
Rep. Brian Poe: it became localized.

2756
03:22:46,420 --> 03:22:46,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright.

2757
03:22:46,660 --> 03:22:48,240
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our

2758
03:22:48,240 --> 03:22:50,420
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: distinguished colleague.

2759
03:22:50,420 --> 03:22:51,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I'm winding up, Madam Speaker.

2760
03:22:51,940 --> 03:22:52,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you very much.

2761
03:22:52,400 --> 03:22:53,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Patapos natanong ko na rin

2762
03:22:53,460 --> 03:22:54,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung last question dito.

2763
03:22:55,540 --> 03:22:55,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2764
03:22:55,840 --> 03:22:57,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, okay.

2765
03:22:58,160 --> 03:22:59,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well,

2766
03:23:00,300 --> 03:23:03,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may mga ilang

2767
03:23:03,300 --> 03:23:07,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: questions na naliwanagan tayo.

2768
03:23:08,040 --> 03:23:09,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example,

2769
03:23:09,580 --> 03:23:11,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the role of third-party vendors.

2770
03:23:12,720 --> 03:23:13,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Apparently,

2771
03:23:14,200 --> 03:23:16,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's mainly

2772
03:23:16,900 --> 03:23:18,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: jurisdictional issue.

2773
03:23:18,640 --> 03:23:19,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang ganun.

2774
03:23:19,960 --> 03:23:20,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2775
03:23:20,820 --> 03:23:22,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero nakita rin natin

2776
03:23:22,200 --> 03:23:25,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na may mga tanong pa rin.

2777
03:23:25,560 --> 03:23:26,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Like, you know,

2778
03:23:26,340 --> 03:23:27,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there's a large spend,

2779
03:23:28,160 --> 03:23:30,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: large spending for

2780
03:23:30,280 --> 03:23:31,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: co-location services.

2781
03:23:33,040 --> 03:23:34,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi directly nasagot

2782
03:23:34,600 --> 03:23:35,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DICT

2783
03:23:35,460 --> 03:23:37,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung paano

2784
03:23:37,100 --> 03:23:38,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o sino ang gumagamit nito.

2785
03:23:39,060 --> 03:23:39,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Apparently, hindi sila.

2786
03:23:40,600 --> 03:23:40,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2787
03:23:41,220 --> 03:23:41,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibang ahensya.

2788
03:23:45,140 --> 03:23:46,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, Madam Speaker,

2789
03:23:47,300 --> 03:23:48,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with that,

2790
03:23:48,620 --> 03:23:50,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I end my interpellation.

2791
03:23:50,160 --> 03:23:50,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you.

2792
03:23:50,880 --> 03:23:51,680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much,

2793
03:23:51,780 --> 03:23:52,460
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

2794
03:23:53,560 --> 03:23:54,280
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker,

2795
03:23:55,500 --> 03:23:57,180
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: also to interpellate

2796
03:23:57,180 --> 03:23:57,940
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: on the proposed budget,

2797
03:23:58,160 --> 03:24:01,280
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: is the representative

2798
03:24:01,280 --> 03:24:05,460
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: of Gabriela Women's Party.

2799
03:24:06,720 --> 03:24:08,360
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: And I therefore move

2800
03:24:08,360 --> 03:24:10,620
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: that we recognize

2801
03:24:10,620 --> 03:24:14,320
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Representative Sarah Jane Elago.

2802
03:24:14,700 --> 03:24:15,540
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Elago

2803
03:24:15,540 --> 03:24:17,360
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is recognized for interpellation.

2804
03:24:19,860 --> 03:24:21,620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

2805
03:24:22,480 --> 03:24:24,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Just to follow on the

2806
03:24:24,420 --> 03:24:26,160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: information provided

2807
03:24:26,160 --> 03:24:27,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: by the agency

2808
03:24:27,220 --> 03:24:28,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on the information

2809
03:24:28,000 --> 03:24:29,660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on its measures

2810
03:24:29,660 --> 03:24:31,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to prevent and minimize

2811
03:24:31,240 --> 03:24:32,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: online fraud and scams

2812
03:24:32,780 --> 03:24:34,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and mitigate their impact

2813
03:24:34,600 --> 03:24:35,400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on the public.

2814
03:24:36,720 --> 03:24:38,720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: It reported that

2815
03:24:38,720 --> 03:24:40,760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: it has proactive

2816
03:24:40,760 --> 03:24:42,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: public awareness

2817
03:24:42,300 --> 03:24:44,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and education efforts,

2818
03:24:45,160 --> 03:24:45,660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: particularly

2819
03:24:45,660 --> 03:24:47,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on

2820
03:24:47,420 --> 03:24:50,080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: undertaking

2821
03:24:50,080 --> 03:24:51,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: this

2822
03:24:51,020 --> 03:24:53,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: efforts to raise awareness

2823
03:24:53,500 --> 03:24:54,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: through its official

2824
03:24:54,740 --> 03:24:56,460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: communication channels.

2825
03:24:56,460 --> 03:24:57,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know, Madam Speaker,

2826
03:24:58,000 --> 03:25:00,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: what these

2827
03:25:00,180 --> 03:25:02,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: official communication channels are?

2828
03:25:14,760 --> 03:25:15,760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you.

2829
03:25:28,000 --> 03:25:35,000
Rep. Brian Poe: So we have the 1326 hotline.

2830
03:25:35,000 --> 03:25:38,680
Rep. Brian Poe: We also have a 24-7 action center

2831
03:25:38,680 --> 03:25:40,000
Rep. Brian Poe: in Studio 7

2832
03:25:40,000 --> 03:25:43,120
Rep. Brian Poe: at the CICC-DICT office.

2833
03:25:44,320 --> 03:25:45,520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker,

2834
03:25:45,740 --> 03:25:48,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nais po sana nating malaman

2835
03:25:48,300 --> 03:25:49,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa particular

2836
03:25:49,600 --> 03:25:51,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay kung saan po lumalabas

2837
03:25:51,240 --> 03:25:52,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: halimbawa yung

2838
03:25:52,440 --> 03:25:53,940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: impormasyon

2839
03:25:53,940 --> 03:25:55,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano, halimbawa,

2840
03:25:56,080 --> 03:25:56,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magsusumbong,

2841
03:25:57,140 --> 03:25:57,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano magre-recognize,

2842
03:25:58,000 --> 03:25:58,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano magreklamo,

2843
03:25:59,020 --> 03:26:00,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paano ba yung proseso.

2844
03:26:02,140 --> 03:26:04,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yun po ay kasama sa report

2845
03:26:04,240 --> 03:26:07,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng CICC.

2846
03:26:07,440 --> 03:26:08,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nabanggit dito

2847
03:26:08,300 --> 03:26:10,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung tungkol sa hotline 1326

2848
03:26:10,860 --> 03:26:14,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at tungkol sa

2849
03:26:14,300 --> 03:26:15,080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: scam safe

2850
03:26:15,080 --> 03:26:17,940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na online scam

2851
03:26:17,940 --> 03:26:19,540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: verification platform.

2852
03:26:20,080 --> 03:26:22,100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero ang nais ko pong malaman,

2853
03:26:22,240 --> 03:26:24,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paano natin mas ipinapaalam po

2854
03:26:24,600 --> 03:26:25,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa publiko

2855
03:26:25,500 --> 03:26:27,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na meron tayong hotline 1326

2856
03:26:28,000 --> 03:26:29,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at meron tayong

2857
03:26:29,920 --> 03:26:31,400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: scam safe platform?

2858
03:26:31,880 --> 03:26:34,120
Rep. Brian Poe: Well, every Thursday at 10am

2859
03:26:34,120 --> 03:26:35,860
Rep. Brian Poe: it's on RTV.

2860
03:26:37,120 --> 03:26:38,380
Rep. Brian Poe: There's also on

2861
03:26:38,380 --> 03:26:39,840
Rep. Brian Poe: their social media pages

2862
03:26:39,840 --> 03:26:42,240
Rep. Brian Poe: and there's continuous

2863
03:26:42,240 --> 03:26:44,040
Rep. Brian Poe: promotion across various news

2864
03:26:44,040 --> 03:26:44,660
Rep. Brian Poe: outlets.

2865
03:26:45,840 --> 03:26:48,360
Rep. Brian Poe: But I guess para sa mga kababayan natin

2866
03:26:48,360 --> 03:26:49,240
Rep. Brian Poe: para mas mabidis,

2867
03:26:49,820 --> 03:26:52,200
Rep. Brian Poe: sockment talaga yung pinag-amabidis.

2868
03:26:52,580 --> 03:26:54,100
Rep. Brian Poe: Check lang yung CICC page.

2869
03:26:55,140 --> 03:26:57,160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: I ask this, Madam Speaker,

2870
03:26:58,000 --> 03:26:59,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: I'm concerned that

2871
03:26:59,800 --> 03:27:02,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: as shared by the

2872
03:27:02,580 --> 03:27:03,540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: distinguished sponsor,

2873
03:27:04,280 --> 03:27:05,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the current,

2874
03:27:06,800 --> 03:27:08,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the existing efforts

2875
03:27:08,500 --> 03:27:09,940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to raise awareness

2876
03:27:09,940 --> 03:27:11,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: are mostly done online

2877
03:27:11,580 --> 03:27:13,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: through its internet

2878
03:27:13,960 --> 03:27:16,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and other social media

2879
03:27:16,380 --> 03:27:18,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: channels

2880
03:27:18,220 --> 03:27:19,820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and spaces.

2881
03:27:20,640 --> 03:27:21,640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakahalaga po nito

2882
03:27:21,640 --> 03:27:23,840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at tama po ang ating sponsor

2883
03:27:23,840 --> 03:27:25,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na maraming gumagamit,

2884
03:27:25,700 --> 03:27:27,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mabilis rin at mura.

2885
03:27:28,000 --> 03:27:29,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit, sa tingin ko,

2886
03:27:29,500 --> 03:27:31,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kinakailangan din na meron tayong

2887
03:27:31,800 --> 03:27:34,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga offline means

2888
03:27:34,440 --> 03:27:35,820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po maabot

2889
03:27:35,820 --> 03:27:37,120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga kababayan

2890
03:27:37,120 --> 03:27:39,320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga pampublikong espasyo.

2891
03:27:40,160 --> 03:27:41,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nais ko rin po sanang malaman

2892
03:27:41,800 --> 03:27:43,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at maibahagi at sa susunod

2893
03:27:43,780 --> 03:27:46,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maiulat sa ating kapulungan

2894
03:27:46,220 --> 03:27:48,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pagkakaroon din ng mga

2895
03:27:48,300 --> 03:27:50,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: partnerships sa ating

2896
03:27:50,200 --> 03:27:51,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: local government units,

2897
03:27:51,980 --> 03:27:53,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga barangay,

2898
03:27:53,180 --> 03:27:54,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa civil society,

2899
03:27:55,240 --> 03:27:56,840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga people's organizations,

2900
03:27:57,480 --> 03:27:57,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa academia,

2901
03:27:58,000 --> 03:28:00,040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak na talagang

2902
03:28:00,040 --> 03:28:02,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa panahon ngayon na napakalaganap

2903
03:28:02,480 --> 03:28:04,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng iba't ibang scam,

2904
03:28:04,240 --> 03:28:05,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng iba't ibang panluloko

2905
03:28:05,560 --> 03:28:07,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga kababayan,

2906
03:28:07,920 --> 03:28:09,760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: alam ng ating

2907
03:28:09,760 --> 03:28:11,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: taong bayan

2908
03:28:11,880 --> 03:28:13,100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano sila

2909
03:28:13,100 --> 03:28:16,060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pag-uulat. Alam ng taong bayan

2910
03:28:16,060 --> 03:28:17,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano nila mahahabol

2911
03:28:17,560 --> 03:28:19,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung sino ba yung mga perpetrators

2912
03:28:19,880 --> 03:28:21,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ganitong mga scam operations

2913
03:28:21,900 --> 03:28:24,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at alam ng taong bayan

2914
03:28:24,520 --> 03:28:26,840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kapag nagsumbong sila

2915
03:28:26,840 --> 03:28:27,840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kapag nagsumbong

2916
03:28:28,000 --> 03:28:30,140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: reklamo sila, ay merong

2917
03:28:30,140 --> 03:28:32,520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mapapanagot ang ating mga batas.

2918
03:28:33,120 --> 03:28:34,460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon po ba, magkano po

2919
03:28:34,460 --> 03:28:36,060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nakalaan na pondo para dito?

2920
03:28:44,360 --> 03:28:46,860
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I am sorry to report

2921
03:28:46,860 --> 03:28:48,300
Rep. Brian Poe: that in the current NEP,

2922
03:28:48,420 --> 03:28:50,520
Rep. Brian Poe: there's zero allocation for information

2923
03:28:50,520 --> 03:28:52,740
Rep. Brian Poe: campaigns for the CICC

2924
03:28:52,740 --> 03:28:54,080
Rep. Brian Poe: with regards to this matter.

2925
03:28:55,580 --> 03:28:56,360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Zero budget.

2926
03:28:56,720 --> 03:28:57,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya ho,

2927
03:28:58,000 --> 03:29:01,160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating representasyon kami po

2928
03:29:01,160 --> 03:29:03,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mahitingi ng detalye

2929
03:29:03,000 --> 03:29:05,820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng specific

2930
03:29:05,820 --> 03:29:06,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na projects

2931
03:29:06,900 --> 03:29:09,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung merong proposed na line item

2932
03:29:09,300 --> 03:29:11,360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak na

2933
03:29:11,360 --> 03:29:12,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tuloy-tuloy ang ating

2934
03:29:12,920 --> 03:29:15,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: public information and education

2935
03:29:15,300 --> 03:29:16,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: efforts

2936
03:29:16,580 --> 03:29:18,620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: online at offline.

2937
03:29:18,820 --> 03:29:21,560
Rep. Brian Poe: Opo. Pero, Madam Speaker,

2938
03:29:22,340 --> 03:29:23,420
Rep. Brian Poe: just to highlight

2939
03:29:23,420 --> 03:29:25,140
Rep. Brian Poe: the efforts of the DICT,

2940
03:29:25,140 --> 03:29:27,140
Rep. Brian Poe: kahit limitado po ang pondo ng DICT

2941
03:29:28,000 --> 03:29:29,580
Rep. Brian Poe: sa information campaigns po nila,

2942
03:29:30,080 --> 03:29:32,060
Rep. Brian Poe: they have the partnership with RTV

2943
03:29:32,060 --> 03:29:33,640
Rep. Brian Poe: which is offline.

2944
03:29:34,220 --> 03:29:35,860
Rep. Brian Poe: Of course, as mentioned,

2945
03:29:36,520 --> 03:29:38,900
Rep. Brian Poe: there are the online social media

2946
03:29:38,900 --> 03:29:40,300
Rep. Brian Poe: which is basically

2947
03:29:40,300 --> 03:29:42,960
Rep. Brian Poe: in-house. So, there's no cost

2948
03:29:42,960 --> 03:29:44,300
Rep. Brian Poe: on that. But also,

2949
03:29:44,760 --> 03:29:47,040
Rep. Brian Poe: my colleagues here from DICT

2950
03:29:47,040 --> 03:29:48,620
Rep. Brian Poe: are saying that they have

2951
03:29:48,620 --> 03:29:50,260
Rep. Brian Poe: roadshows and partnerships

2952
03:29:50,260 --> 03:29:52,040
Rep. Brian Poe: with the LGUs

2953
03:29:52,040 --> 03:29:54,340
Rep. Brian Poe: to push information

2954
03:29:54,340 --> 03:29:56,580
Rep. Brian Poe: across the 16 different regions.

2955
03:29:57,020 --> 03:29:57,920
Rep. Brian Poe: So, meron po,

2956
03:29:58,000 --> 03:30:00,000
Rep. Brian Poe: kahit wala namang pondo,

2957
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:10,460
Rep. Brian Poe: naghahanap ng paraan po ang DICT para sa kanilang information campaigns to protect from online sexual abuse and misinformation and scams.

2958
03:30:11,940 --> 03:30:20,360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat. At Madam Speaker, natanong ko ito dahil kamakailan lang maraming lumabas na mga exclusive reports

2959
03:30:20,360 --> 03:30:28,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa mas matinding, mas laganap, mas marami ng mga kaso ng technology-facilitated gender-based violence.

2960
03:30:28,420 --> 03:30:43,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isa na yung exclusive report mula sa Rappler tungkol sa 430,000 plus member forum na nagsistream ng mga privado at intimate moments ng mga kababaihan.

2961
03:30:44,100 --> 03:30:54,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandyan din po ang lumabas na ulat mula sa CNN tungkol sa emergence ng mga global rape academy.

2962
03:30:55,480 --> 03:30:58,400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakahirap pong sabihin kasi hindi po katanggap.

2963
03:30:58,420 --> 03:31:13,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandyan din po ang mga espasyo, mga Philippine online forum na nagbibigay ng rewards sa submission ng mga non-consensual intimate content.

2964
03:31:14,920 --> 03:31:21,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa mga platforms na namag-get yung kanina, sa ating hotline, sa ating online platforms,

2965
03:31:21,180 --> 03:31:26,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ating po bang mga first responders, mga tumatanggap ng tawag,

2966
03:31:28,420 --> 03:31:42,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sumailalim sa isang gender sensitivity training, first aid responders training para po sa pagtanggap ng ganitong tipo ng mga kaso na may kinalaman sa gender-based violence.

2967
03:31:53,800 --> 03:31:58,000
Rep. Brian Poe: So legitimate naman talaga po yung concern ng colleague po natin.

2968
03:31:58,420 --> 03:32:04,480
Rep. Brian Poe: Dapat may tamang training po ang ating first responders.

2969
03:32:04,940 --> 03:32:11,760
Rep. Brian Poe: The CWC is in partnership with the CICC in providing our first responders with the proper training.

2970
03:32:13,440 --> 03:32:14,360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat po.

2971
03:32:14,360 --> 03:32:22,320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bukod po sa Council for the Welfare of Children para sa pagtitiyak na child-friendly ang ating pag-usap,

2972
03:32:22,720 --> 03:32:27,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sensitive sa mga needs ng ating mga bata at ng mga kabataan,

2973
03:32:28,420 --> 03:32:30,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: halimbawa sa Philippine Commission on Women,

2974
03:32:30,840 --> 03:32:39,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung partnership natin para sa pagtitiyak na hindi lang gender-sensitive pero gender-affirmative din.

2975
03:32:39,600 --> 03:32:44,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung pagtitiyak natin na lahat na hindi lang naman po kababaihan,

2976
03:32:44,560 --> 03:32:47,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pinakamarami pa rin sa mga kababaihan, pinakamadalas,

2977
03:32:47,860 --> 03:32:56,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero maaari din pong nagiging target ng abuse ang men, boys, at gender-diverse people.

2978
03:32:56,300 --> 03:32:57,600
Rep. Brian Poe: Magandang suggestion.

2979
03:32:58,420 --> 03:33:00,520
Rep. Brian Poe: Magandang suggestion po yan, Madam Speaker.

2980
03:33:01,080 --> 03:33:07,180
Rep. Brian Poe: May commitment po ako galing sa CICC na agad-agad they will reach out to the Commission on Women

2981
03:33:07,180 --> 03:33:10,680
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to get their input as well regarding this matter.

2982
03:33:11,980 --> 03:33:12,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat po.

2983
03:33:13,340 --> 03:33:20,660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At meron na tayong mga civil society organizations na nagsisimula na mag-develop ng modules

2984
03:33:20,660 --> 03:33:25,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po pakipagtulungan sa paglaban sa technology-facilitated gender-based violence.

2985
03:33:25,920 --> 03:33:27,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At aasahan po natin.

2986
03:33:27,420 --> 03:33:34,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sana po for 2027, meron din mga pondo ang DICT, ang National Privacy Commission

2987
03:33:34,740 --> 03:33:43,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para mapagyaman ang mga tulungan na ito at lahat tayo ay magsama-sama sa paglaban sa TFGBV.

2988
03:33:44,360 --> 03:33:52,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, I'd like to ask about the role of the DICT as well as the National Privacy Commission

2989
03:33:52,580 --> 03:33:56,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on the recent adoption of the International...

2990
03:33:57,420 --> 03:34:00,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: International Labor Organization Convention No. 193.

2991
03:34:01,540 --> 03:34:10,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: This is the very first international labor standard created specifically for digital platform workers

2992
03:34:10,180 --> 03:34:16,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: such as those working in the gig economy, delivery and online application workers.

2993
03:34:16,740 --> 03:34:26,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: This is particularly relevant for DICC, for example, because it covers the protection,

2994
03:34:27,420 --> 03:34:36,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on algorithmic transparency and management, requiring online platforms to inform workers

2995
03:34:36,300 --> 03:34:41,820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and their representatives about automated monitoring and evaluation systems

2996
03:34:41,820 --> 03:34:49,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and to provide safeguards against unlawful or discriminatory suspension, deactivation or termination.

2997
03:34:49,000 --> 03:34:57,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know, Madam Speaker, if the DICC or the NPC already have their position on this?

2998
03:34:57,420 --> 03:35:05,540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And will the departments, will the commissions actively campaign for its ratification here in the Philippines,

2999
03:35:05,760 --> 03:35:12,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: considering that we have a considerable number of workforce working in the ICT-related sector?

3000
03:35:13,980 --> 03:35:20,720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And how does the ICT and the commissions here intend to consult their stakeholders

3001
03:35:20,720 --> 03:35:26,720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: from the platform managers, administrators, owners, to the workers?

3002
03:35:27,420 --> 03:35:32,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May kasama po ba tayong pondo para matiyak na broad, wide,

3003
03:35:33,300 --> 03:35:41,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga magiging konsultasyon natin sa stakeholders para sa ILO Convention No. 193?

3004
03:35:57,420 --> 03:36:11,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, nabanggit ko po dito ang NPC dahil isa din sa mga guarantees ng convention na ito,

3005
03:36:11,980 --> 03:36:13,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang data protection and privacy.

3006
03:36:14,340 --> 03:36:20,660
Rep. Brian Poe: Unfortunately, Madam Speaker, sa ngayon wala pa silang policy regarding this matter

3007
03:36:20,660 --> 03:36:26,560
Rep. Brian Poe: at wala po silang pondo to support furthering this.

3008
03:36:26,560 --> 03:36:27,100
Rep. Brian Poe: However,

3009
03:36:27,420 --> 03:36:29,580
Rep. Brian Poe: in terms of stakeholder consultation,

3010
03:36:30,080 --> 03:36:35,520
Rep. Brian Poe: I have confirmation that they do have stakeholder consultations as well as capacity building.

3011
03:36:36,180 --> 03:36:41,960
Rep. Brian Poe: But for this specific matter, wala pa po silang internal policy.

3012
03:36:42,560 --> 03:36:47,640
Rep. Brian Poe: But maybe I can ask my colleague and our other colleagues in the minority

3013
03:36:47,640 --> 03:36:51,900
Rep. Brian Poe: for their position regarding this to help inform the agency.

3014
03:36:54,180 --> 03:36:57,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, will the distinguished sponsor, will the department,

3015
03:36:57,420 --> 03:37:04,080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: commit to a study this particular convention and sit not only with these representatives

3016
03:37:04,080 --> 03:37:11,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: but stakeholders from workers' groups who are also calling for algorithmic transparency?

3017
03:37:12,980 --> 03:37:19,620
Rep. Brian Poe: There is a commitment from the DICT and its attached agency to conduct the necessary study for this.

3018
03:37:20,240 --> 03:37:23,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

3019
03:37:23,700 --> 03:37:24,260
Rep. Brian Poe: Maraming salamat po.

3020
03:37:24,260 --> 03:37:24,680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader?

3021
03:37:26,780 --> 03:37:27,380
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Maraming salamat.

3022
03:37:27,380 --> 03:37:38,860
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker, last to interpellate on the proposed budget is Philreka Party-list representative.

3023
03:37:40,060 --> 03:37:45,720
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: I therefore move that we recognize Congressman Presley De Jesus.

3024
03:37:46,600 --> 03:37:50,100
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The distinguished gentleman representing Philreka Party-list,

3025
03:37:50,500 --> 03:37:54,520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Honorable Presley De Jesus, is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

3026
03:37:57,380 --> 03:38:00,200
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor.

3027
03:38:03,760 --> 03:38:07,520
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: After the Ateneo de Zamboanga school shooting,

3028
03:38:08,440 --> 03:38:17,300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: DICT and CICC publicly raised the possibility of blocking Facebook as a last resort

3029
03:38:17,300 --> 03:38:23,660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: over delayed takedowns of violent content, child safety concerns, and misinformation.

3030
03:38:24,100 --> 03:38:26,880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Malakanyang later said there is no ban for now,

3031
03:38:27,380 --> 03:38:28,320
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and that the government is cooperating.

3032
03:38:28,980 --> 03:38:30,740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And talks were held in Singapore.

3033
03:38:32,200 --> 03:38:35,260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What really transpired in Singapore?

3034
03:38:35,760 --> 03:38:39,760
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Nagkaroon ko ba ng usapan po nung pumunta po kayo?

3035
03:38:39,840 --> 03:38:42,300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because I remember during committee hearing, Madam Chair,

3036
03:38:42,800 --> 03:38:47,440
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nabanggit na [unclear] Secretary, nagkaroon daw ng dialogue sa Singapore.

3037
03:38:47,820 --> 03:38:51,360
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can you update us what transpired on that said meeting?

3038
03:38:51,460 --> 03:38:57,360
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes. Madam Secretary, if I'm not mistaken, members of the DICT and CICC,

3039
03:38:57,380 --> 03:39:04,960
Rep. Brian Poe: flew to Singapore to consult and explain the situation here in the Philippines to META.

3040
03:39:05,580 --> 03:39:13,700
Rep. Brian Poe: And I believe they're working towards an MOU, an MOA, rather, with META

3041
03:39:13,700 --> 03:39:19,300
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to address the growing concerns of influence on minors here in the Philippines,

3042
03:39:19,600 --> 03:39:24,740
Rep. Brian Poe: among other concerns that are happening within the META platform, Madam Speaker.

3043
03:39:24,740 --> 03:39:26,880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you.

3044
03:39:27,380 --> 03:39:31,920
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

3045
03:39:32,800 --> 03:39:41,020
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: one of the primary mandates of the DICT is the security of critical ICT infrastructure,

3046
03:39:41,540 --> 03:39:46,840
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: which includes the information assets of government, individuals, and businesses,

3047
03:39:47,460 --> 03:39:53,120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as well as the protection of consumers' privacy, security, and confidentiality.

3048
03:39:53,120 --> 03:39:57,280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My question will focus on DICT's follow-through,

3049
03:39:57,380 --> 03:39:58,620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as well as the security of the META platform.

3050
03:39:58,620 --> 03:39:58,980
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The DICT also announced an agreement with META on online scams,

3051
03:39:58,980 --> 03:40:05,020
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: particularly those occurring through Facebook and other META platforms.

3052
03:40:05,820 --> 03:40:11,640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The DICT announced an agreement with META as early as February 2026,

3053
03:40:12,900 --> 03:40:20,620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: covering fake investment schemes, phishing, digital fraud, online scams, and deep fakes.

3054
03:40:21,680 --> 03:40:24,740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What does the agreement actually entail, Mr. Speaker?

3055
03:40:27,380 --> 03:40:36,680
Rep. Brian Poe: So, Madam Speaker, the agreement that was being referred to is separate from the MOA that they're currently working on.

3056
03:40:37,020 --> 03:40:40,600
Rep. Brian Poe: And to update my colleague, because of the urgency,

3057
03:40:41,140 --> 03:40:47,900
Rep. Brian Poe: as of yesterday, the DICT and CICC have already started their technical working group with META

3058
03:40:47,900 --> 03:40:53,680
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to address the concerns of our constituents with regards to these matters.

3059
03:40:53,680 --> 03:40:56,620
Rep. Brian Poe: However, on the status of the TWG,

3060
03:40:57,380 --> 03:40:58,820
Rep. Brian Poe: because they're just about to start,

3061
03:40:59,280 --> 03:41:03,480
Rep. Brian Poe: they're only doing role assignments and immediate target setting.

3062
03:41:04,800 --> 03:41:11,720
Rep. Brian Poe: But as the days go on, we'll see immediate action from the relevant agencies, Madam Speaker.

3063
03:41:12,600 --> 03:41:13,780
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

3064
03:41:14,040 --> 03:41:18,580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: By the way, how many, as far as Facebook account,

3065
03:41:19,260 --> 03:41:24,280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: do they have Facebook or the META as an office here in the Philippines?

3066
03:41:27,380 --> 03:41:35,820
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I would like to confirm that Facebook does have a physical office here in the Philippines.

3067
03:41:36,160 --> 03:41:39,540
Rep. Brian Poe: However, we don't have jurisdiction over them, Madam Speaker,

3068
03:41:39,540 --> 03:41:41,380
Rep. Brian Poe: dahil marketing office lang po ito.

3069
03:41:41,580 --> 03:41:46,840
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, Madam Speaker, wala talaga silang office, only marketing arm.

3070
03:41:47,000 --> 03:41:51,000
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ibig sabihin, pang-marketing, pang-recruit lang.

3071
03:41:51,480 --> 03:41:56,260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, what I'm trying to say, do they have a country manager here in the Philippines?

3072
03:41:57,240 --> 03:41:59,960
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And how many employees do they employ?

3073
03:42:02,120 --> 03:42:05,680
Rep. Brian Poe: There's only a handful of employees here in the Philippines, Madam Speaker,

3074
03:42:05,780 --> 03:42:08,780
Rep. Brian Poe: and they don't have an official country manager for the Philippines.

3075
03:42:09,320 --> 03:42:13,600
Rep. Brian Poe: But I would like to assure my colleague that one of the terms that,

3076
03:42:13,740 --> 03:42:18,440
Rep. Brian Poe: the two of the terms that are being considered in this technical working group

3077
03:42:18,440 --> 03:42:23,440
Rep. Brian Poe: is one, that they do have a physical office here in the Philippines,

3078
03:42:24,040 --> 03:42:25,660
Rep. Brian Poe: a corporate office here in the Philippines,

3079
03:42:25,660 --> 03:42:26,940
Rep. Brian Poe: and that two,

3080
03:42:27,240 --> 03:42:34,820
Rep. Brian Poe: that they require the national ID already for users of META here in the Philippines.

3081
03:42:35,260 --> 03:42:36,320
Rep. Brian Poe: And it's been done before.

3082
03:42:36,480 --> 03:42:41,480
Rep. Brian Poe: I want to point that out, that Brazil has already implemented such a system

3083
03:42:41,480 --> 03:42:42,980
Rep. Brian Poe: because of their age restrictions.

3084
03:42:44,160 --> 03:42:44,840
Rep. Brian Poe: So, it is possible.

3085
03:42:44,840 --> 03:42:48,460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, what I'm trying to say, do they have office?

3086
03:42:49,160 --> 03:42:50,540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do they have managers?

3087
03:42:51,160 --> 03:42:52,540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Not the marketing itself.

3088
03:42:53,180 --> 03:42:54,340
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yun ang gusto naming mangyari.

3089
03:42:54,520 --> 03:42:54,660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: See?

3090
03:42:54,660 --> 03:42:55,660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: There's none.

3091
03:42:55,700 --> 03:42:56,980
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, we don't have jurisdiction.

3092
03:42:57,240 --> 03:42:58,300
Rep. Brian Poe: I agree with my colleague.

3093
03:42:58,540 --> 03:42:59,300
Rep. Brian Poe: It's ridiculous.

3094
03:42:59,720 --> 03:43:03,520
Rep. Brian Poe: Considering that the Philippines is the fifth largest population on META,

3095
03:43:03,960 --> 03:43:09,900
Rep. Brian Poe: that META does not have an actual country manager and a real office here in the Philippines,

3096
03:43:10,060 --> 03:43:17,440
Rep. Brian Poe: considering the amount of capital that this country provides META through its engagement on the platform.

3097
03:43:17,720 --> 03:43:19,760
Rep. Brian Poe: So, I agree with my colleague here.

3098
03:43:20,020 --> 03:43:21,820
Rep. Brian Poe: This is a priority for us.

3099
03:43:21,820 --> 03:43:26,880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, the distinguished sponsor mentioned a while ago that we are,

3100
03:43:26,880 --> 03:43:30,660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the fifth largest users of META.

3101
03:43:30,980 --> 03:43:35,580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Imagine, the entire, sa buong mundo, pang lima tayo,

3102
03:43:36,140 --> 03:43:42,160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and we're only, what, 120 million Filipinos compared to other countries,

3103
03:43:42,740 --> 03:43:43,640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: transing billions.

3104
03:43:44,200 --> 03:43:46,400
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But again, so we're being ignored.

3105
03:43:46,860 --> 03:43:50,880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm not trying to blame the ICT, Madam Speaker.

3106
03:43:50,880 --> 03:43:52,860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito po yung sinasabi natin.

3107
03:43:53,580 --> 03:43:56,600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We keep on making their businesses.

3108
03:43:56,880 --> 03:43:57,120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Big.

3109
03:43:57,680 --> 03:44:01,180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But in return, hindi mo lang tayo mapansin.

3110
03:44:01,600 --> 03:44:06,300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Not even as office here in the Philippines, hindi maibigay sa atin.

3111
03:44:07,140 --> 03:44:11,460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And they have to follow the Philippine laws, Madam Speaker.

3112
03:44:12,280 --> 03:44:17,620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, my next question, ano po ang ginawa ng DICT?

3113
03:44:17,620 --> 03:44:22,620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Did you persuade them na magtayo kayo sa opisina?

3114
03:44:23,320 --> 03:44:25,920
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Opisina, that you have a country manager,

3115
03:44:25,920 --> 03:44:32,120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that you have the organizational structure that will look into sa mga scammers?

3116
03:44:32,800 --> 03:44:36,000
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang dami nang lumalabas, kawawa ang ating mga kababayan.

3117
03:44:36,360 --> 03:44:39,040
Rep. Brian Poe: Well, the two non-negotiables, Madam Speaker,

3118
03:44:39,240 --> 03:44:42,620
Rep. Brian Poe: are one, that they open an actual office here in the Philippines

3119
03:44:42,620 --> 03:44:44,440
Rep. Brian Poe: so that they can be held accountable.

3120
03:44:44,880 --> 03:44:50,360
Rep. Brian Poe: And two, Madam Speaker, again, for the sake of accountability and protection on social media,

3121
03:44:50,360 --> 03:44:55,900
Rep. Brian Poe: the requirement of national ID in order to create or maintain your account on the META platform,

3122
03:44:55,920 --> 03:44:57,160
Rep. Brian Poe: here in the Philippines.

3123
03:44:57,300 --> 03:44:59,440
Rep. Brian Poe: So, these are steps that are being taken.

3124
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:10,820
Rep. Brian Poe: To be fair to META, META seems open to these requirements and have even cited other countries in which they had similar requirements and acted on it.

3125
03:45:10,820 --> 03:45:21,440
Rep. Brian Poe: So we're moving in that direction and the results of this technical working group that just started, hopefully we'll be able to see it within the next few months.

3126
03:45:21,440 --> 03:45:39,660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, the concern is that DICT has several programs, publicized partnerships and coordination mechanisms, but we know, but we don't have visibility of the result of those initiatives.

3127
03:45:40,400 --> 03:45:51,180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What system does DICT currently have to ensure that actions announced by the department are actually monitored through implementation?

3128
03:45:51,440 --> 03:46:03,960
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I want to share with my colleague here and all the members of Congress that there is actual action that DICT is taking to hold META accountable.

3129
03:46:03,960 --> 03:46:20,380
Rep. Brian Poe: And what I have here in my hand, Madam Speaker, is a copy of several documents that have been submitted to the Office of the Solicitor General to possibly build up a case against META for abuses that take place on their platform,

3130
03:46:20,380 --> 03:46:21,380
Rep. Brian Poe: which they turn...

3131
03:46:21,440 --> 03:46:22,620
Rep. Brian Poe: A blind eye too.

3132
03:46:23,260 --> 03:46:31,020
Rep. Brian Poe: So in this, we have in Annex A, a draft of a civil complaint, which was prepared by the DICT.

3133
03:46:31,020 --> 03:46:48,020
Rep. Brian Poe: In Annex B, there is a formal request drawing from global litigation precedents in Brazil, New Mexico, and Los Angeles that recognize platforms as active participants rather than passive intermediaries of actions taken on their platform.

3134
03:46:48,720 --> 03:46:51,020
Rep. Brian Poe: Annex C actually has...

3135
03:46:51,440 --> 03:47:01,600
Rep. Brian Poe: All the evidence and documentation of abuse, that's OSAEC, CSAEM, financial fraud, online debt harassment, illegal gambling,

3136
03:47:01,840 --> 03:47:09,240
Rep. Brian Poe: records of platform knowledge and inaction is also included in this document in Annex C.

3137
03:47:09,240 --> 03:47:17,540
Rep. Brian Poe: In Annex D, the National Privacy Commission asserted its regulatory jurisdiction over META

3138
03:47:17,540 --> 03:47:24,840
Rep. Brian Poe: in relation to the processing of personal data for AI-generated content and functionalities.

3139
03:47:25,160 --> 03:47:36,720
Rep. Brian Poe: And the NTC submitted its legal position paper on a test case for courts to propose action to be taken against Facebook in Annex E.

3140
03:47:36,720 --> 03:47:44,280
Rep. Brian Poe: So the DICT and its attached agencies aren't just sitting around waiting for something to happen.

3141
03:47:44,640 --> 03:47:47,520
Rep. Brian Poe: They've already prepared the necessary evidence, documents,

3142
03:47:47,540 --> 03:47:54,000
Rep. Brian Poe: and potential cases to hold META accountable should they not work together with our government.

3143
03:47:54,380 --> 03:47:59,500
Rep. Brian Poe: So I would like to request the assistance of a page to pass a copy of this to my colleague

3144
03:47:59,500 --> 03:48:04,100
Rep. Brian Poe: so that my colleague would be able to go over the document.

3145
03:48:04,780 --> 03:48:12,420
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, what if I file a House resolution in aid of legislation and I will summon the DICT

3146
03:48:12,420 --> 03:48:15,800
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and who will be the representatives from META?

3147
03:48:15,800 --> 03:48:17,220
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sino bang papadala lang?

3148
03:48:17,540 --> 03:48:24,600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kali mag-file ako ng House resolution with regard to what happened to Zamboanga massacre.

3149
03:48:24,800 --> 03:48:27,400
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And of course, yung mga kanilang violation.

3150
03:48:27,680 --> 03:48:29,700
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sino ang pupunta rito from META?

3151
03:48:30,940 --> 03:48:32,140
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anyone from META?

3152
03:48:32,780 --> 03:48:34,740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Will be held responsible?

3153
03:48:34,740 --> 03:48:45,540
Rep. Brian Poe: From the DICT, they themselves wrote directly to Mark Zuckerberg to ask him to confront these issues which we are facing.

3154
03:48:46,300 --> 03:48:46,740
Rep. Brian Poe: Although...

3155
03:48:47,540 --> 03:48:48,780
Rep. Brian Poe: There was no response.

3156
03:48:49,000 --> 03:48:53,560
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, I don't think the founder, Mark Zuckerberg, will come here.

3157
03:48:54,020 --> 03:48:56,080
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Para sa atin, ganito lang tayo sa kanya.

3158
03:48:56,300 --> 03:48:58,660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They make a lot of money through Facebook.

3159
03:48:59,320 --> 03:49:03,140
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam naman nila na puri karamihan is...

3160
03:49:03,140 --> 03:49:04,460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm not saying the whole thing, no?

3161
03:49:04,840 --> 03:49:06,300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because I don't have...

3162
03:49:06,300 --> 03:49:08,560
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Myself, I don't have Facebook account, no?

3163
03:49:08,980 --> 03:49:14,980
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi alam ko maraming kalokohan dyan, pero maraming gumagamit at karamihan sa ating mga kababayan

3164
03:49:14,980 --> 03:49:17,380
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ay kumikita naman dyan, in fairness.

3165
03:49:17,540 --> 03:49:18,820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: To Facebook, no?

3166
03:49:18,900 --> 03:49:19,440
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: To META.

3167
03:49:19,820 --> 03:49:22,920
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But again, we're talking about responsibility.

3168
03:49:23,780 --> 03:49:28,400
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We're talking about yung kailangan nila maging, ano sila rito, accountable.

3169
03:49:29,080 --> 03:49:33,180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yan po ang kailangan natin, Madam Speaker.

3170
03:49:33,180 --> 03:49:39,440
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, though Mark Zuckerberg himself never showed up in countries like Brazil and others,

3171
03:49:39,800 --> 03:49:44,460
Rep. Brian Poe: they did send legal representation to confront the issues in other countries.

3172
03:49:44,620 --> 03:49:45,180
Rep. Brian Poe: So, I assume...

3173
03:49:46,000 --> 03:49:47,380
Rep. Brian Poe: Kung magkaroon po tayo ng isang...

3174
03:49:47,540 --> 03:49:50,160
Rep. Brian Poe: Kung magkaroon po tayo ng isang House Resolution investigating this,

3175
03:49:50,460 --> 03:49:56,980
Rep. Brian Poe: kailangan na kailangan magpadala ng representation ang META to confront these valid issues from the House of Representatives.

3176
03:49:57,780 --> 03:50:01,760
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

3177
03:50:02,620 --> 03:50:05,380
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the issue then is not the absence of initiatives,

3178
03:50:06,100 --> 03:50:14,120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but whether the ICT has sufficient mechanisms to monitor implementation and measure actual results.

3179
03:50:14,120 --> 03:50:17,120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I appreciate the responses of the Department,

3180
03:50:17,540 --> 03:50:19,300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the good sponsor.

3181
03:50:20,080 --> 03:50:27,700
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: However, I remain concerned that there is still insufficient information before this body

3182
03:50:27,700 --> 03:50:34,440
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: regarding the actual outcomes of the ICT's anti-scam initiatives.

3183
03:50:35,200 --> 03:50:39,540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The Department has entered into agreement, established reporting mechanisms,

3184
03:50:40,800 --> 03:50:46,260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and coordinated with private platforms and law enforcement agency.

3185
03:50:46,260 --> 03:50:47,380
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But,

3186
03:50:47,540 --> 03:50:49,800
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for purposes of budget review,

3187
03:50:50,600 --> 03:50:58,520
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this Committee must also be able to determine what happened after those actions were initiated.

3188
03:50:59,160 --> 03:51:00,360
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Without that information,

3189
03:51:00,700 --> 03:51:09,640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it is difficult for Congress to properly assess whether the resources being requested are producing the intended outcomes.

3190
03:51:10,600 --> 03:51:11,960
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Accordingly, Madam Chair,

3191
03:51:11,960 --> 03:51:15,700
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: until those matters are a satisfactory address,

3192
03:51:16,700 --> 03:51:17,460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the Department can...

3193
03:51:17,540 --> 03:51:22,540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the Department can present measurables, deliverables.

3194
03:51:22,540 --> 03:51:28,480
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, it pains me, but I have no choice.

3195
03:51:29,520 --> 03:51:38,800
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move that for consideration of the budget of the Department of Information and Communication Technology be deferred.

3196
03:51:40,800 --> 03:51:41,960
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker,

3197
03:51:42,280 --> 03:51:43,080
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader,

3198
03:51:43,080 --> 03:51:46,780
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: on the part of the majority,

3199
03:51:47,540 --> 03:51:55,680
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: we join the minority in the motion to defer the period of interpellations on the proposed budget

3200
03:51:55,680 --> 03:51:59,960
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: of the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

3201
03:52:00,520 --> 03:52:03,880
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: including its attached agencies.

3202
03:52:06,000 --> 03:52:10,200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Because of the wisdom of the minority,

3203
03:52:10,200 --> 03:52:16,200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: that the plan of the ICT insofar as curbing scams,

3204
03:52:17,540 --> 03:52:22,680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and victimizing our children on the negative aspects,

3205
03:52:22,680 --> 03:52:24,200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: especially on their behavior,

3206
03:52:24,620 --> 03:52:26,260
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: has not been addressed well,

3207
03:52:26,920 --> 03:52:28,940
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: there is a motion from the minority,

3208
03:52:30,200 --> 03:52:32,260
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: duly supported by the majority,

3209
03:52:32,980 --> 03:52:40,120
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to defer consideration of the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

3210
03:52:41,040 --> 03:52:42,660
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its attached agencies.

3211
03:52:43,840 --> 03:52:44,940
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do we hear an objection?

3212
03:52:46,460 --> 03:52:47,520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, said motion.

3213
03:52:47,540 --> 03:52:48,260
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Motion is approved.

3214
03:52:48,800 --> 03:52:51,160
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Consideration of the budget of DICT,

3215
03:52:51,640 --> 03:52:54,460
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

3216
03:52:55,200 --> 03:52:56,600
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its attached agencies,

3217
03:52:56,720 --> 03:52:57,500
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: hereby deferred.

3218
03:52:59,360 --> 03:53:00,660
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended.

3219
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:03,840
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we request the DOLE family to be seated so we can start?

3220
04:00:13,040 --> 04:00:14,300
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed.

3221
04:00:15,540 --> 04:00:16,580
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

3222
04:00:19,000 --> 04:00:26,020
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Labor and Employment, including its attached agencies.

3223
04:00:27,280 --> 04:00:28,980
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: An objection? Hearing none.

3224
04:00:30,000 --> 04:00:39,280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Labor and Employment, including its attached agencies, is hereby open.

3225
04:00:39,880 --> 04:00:40,840
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

3226
04:00:41,380 --> 04:00:50,320
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Department of Labor and Employment, namely DOLE Secretary Francis Tolentino,

3227
04:00:50,320 --> 04:00:59,500
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: TESDA Secretary Jose Francisco Kiko Benitez, Undersecretary Warren Miclat, Undersecretary Felipe Egargo Jr.,

3228
04:00:59,500 --> 04:01:10,740
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Undersecretary Carmela Torres, and we would also like to acknowledge the presence of the heads of attached agencies, regional directors, other officials and employees of DOLE.

3229
04:01:12,180 --> 04:01:26,000
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Department of Labor and Employment family, together with its attached agencies, headed by our very good friend, colleague, and former boss and mentor, Secretary Francis Tolentino,

3230
04:01:26,680 --> 04:01:29,340
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Ang gabay at tatay ng ating mga manggagawa.

3231
04:01:29,500 --> 04:01:34,280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: At kamanggagawa, maraming salamat po sa inyong pagdalo dito sa Kongreso.

3232
04:01:34,760 --> 04:01:35,540
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

3233
04:01:37,120 --> 04:01:45,420
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Rommel Angara of the Lone District of Aurora

3234
04:01:45,420 --> 04:01:53,700
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: and the Honorable Vice Chair Maria Angela Garcia of the Third District of Bataan to sponsor the proposed budget of DOLE.

3235
04:01:54,600 --> 04:01:59,280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Vice Chair Rommel Angara is hereby recognized

3236
04:01:59,500 --> 04:02:02,080
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Sponsor the budget of the Department of Labor and Employment.

3237
04:02:02,200 --> 04:02:09,920
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: And of course, the Honorable Vice Chair Maria Angela Garcia, sponsor of the proposed budget of TESDA, are hereby recognized.

3238
04:02:11,500 --> 04:02:12,320
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

3239
04:02:14,920 --> 04:02:16,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

3240
04:02:18,420 --> 04:02:25,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayong gabing ito, at tayo na po ang huling magkakaroon ng depensa sa ating budget ng ating Department of Labor and Employment,

3241
04:02:25,900 --> 04:02:28,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasama na po ang ating attached agencies, including TESDA.

3242
04:02:29,500 --> 04:02:38,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: For the NEP of 2027, Department of Labor and Employment has Php 47,057,355,000.

3243
04:02:38,000 --> 04:02:47,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sa aking mga kasamahan dito sa Kongreso, ang ating budget po noong ating 2026 GAA ay Php 61.2 billion.

3244
04:02:48,600 --> 04:02:59,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So mayroon po tayong Php 14.1 billion na nabawas sa ating pondo na alam kong napakahalaga pagdating sa pagdating sa pagservisyo ng mandato ng ating Departamento.

3245
04:02:59,500 --> 04:03:06,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At that same time, pagbibigay ng mga karagdagang skills to upskill our workforce in the future.

3246
04:03:07,000 --> 04:03:22,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ako ay naniniwala na sa ating mga kasamahan at pagdating ng ating mga susunod pa mga deliberasyon na sana ang hiling po natin ay madagdagan o may balikman lamang yung pondong kinakailangan para lubusang magampanan ng ating Departamento ang kanilang mandato.

3247
04:03:23,340 --> 04:03:28,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pangalawa, sa ating bagong Secretary Francis Tolentino, alam po ninyo,

3248
04:03:29,500 --> 04:03:43,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang mga initiatives under his new leadership na kung saan sa aking palagay ay malaki ang maitutulong para sa ating Departamento at sa ating mga laborers and workers, hindi lamang sa NCR, bagkos sa buong Pilipinas.

3249
04:03:43,720 --> 04:03:52,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Una, ay hinihingi rin niya po sa Kongreso ang karagdagan na sana ay magkaroon ng karagdagang Php 75 million upang sa ating Labor Attorney's Office.

3250
04:03:52,580 --> 04:03:54,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ano po ito, aking mga kasamahan?

3251
04:03:54,820 --> 04:03:59,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Siyempre po, alam naman po natin na ang PAO ay libre na po sa ating mga manggagawa.

3252
04:03:59,500 --> 04:04:23,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Subalit, sa dami po ng kaso na mga kinakaharap ng ating PAO, minabuti ng ating butihing Secretary na mayroong tututok sa ating mga manggagawa, oras na ito ay magkaroon ng free legal assistance, yan po ang ating Labor Attorney's Office in conjunction o kasama po dito yung bagong itatayo na NALJ o National Academy for Labor Justice.

3253
04:04:23,960 --> 04:04:28,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya sa aking mga kasamahan, I'm sure ito po ay napakahalaga.

3254
04:04:29,500 --> 04:04:59,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para ma-implement ngayong 2026 and moving forward hanggang 2027 para siguraduhin natin na ang ating mga workers, hindi lamang sa Metro Manila bagkos sa buong Pilipinas, ay magkaroon ng kahit papaano ay social protection at meron silang masasandalan pagdating ng oras ng kinakailangan. So Madam Speaker, this representation from the Lone District of Aurora is now ready for interpellation together with Maria Angela Garcia for TESDA. Madam Speaker, we're now open for interpellation.

3255
04:04:59,500 --> 04:05:00,800
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

3256
04:05:02,420 --> 04:05:10,980
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Elijah San Fernando of Partylist Kamanggagawa to interpolate on the proposed budget of the DOLE.

3257
04:05:11,380 --> 04:05:15,780
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Elijah San Fernando is hereby recognized for his interpolation.

3258
04:05:17,340 --> 04:05:26,660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, at sa ating kaibigan, ang kagalang-galang na Romel Angara, sponsor po ng budget ng Department of Labor and Employment.

3259
04:05:27,620 --> 04:05:28,700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Malinaw po.

3260
04:05:29,500 --> 04:05:32,820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang mandato ng Department of Labor and Employment.

3261
04:05:33,340 --> 04:05:40,880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ito ay ipagtanggol at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

3262
04:05:41,840 --> 04:05:53,880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Diyan pa lamang po, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, napakabigat na na responsibilidad ang nakaatang sa Department of Labor and Employment.

3263
04:05:54,380 --> 04:05:57,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3264
04:05:57,980 --> 04:06:01,800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang malaking tanong ng mga manggagawa,

3265
04:06:03,300 --> 04:06:08,120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bakit sa hinihinging budget ng Department of Labor and Employment,

3266
04:06:09,300 --> 04:06:16,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 67% o tumataginting na 14 bilyong piso,

3267
04:06:17,840 --> 04:06:25,260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang ilalaan para sa DOLE, Office of the Secretary, particular sa programang tupad, Mr. Sponsor?

3268
04:06:27,980 --> 04:06:32,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: What is the question, Distinguished Colleague?

3269
04:06:33,180 --> 04:06:47,120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Bakit po, 67% o tumataginting na 14 bilyong piso, ang ilalaan ng DOLE, Office of the Secretary, sa programang tupad, Mr. Sponsor?

3270
04:06:53,120 --> 04:06:56,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you for that, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

3271
04:06:56,680 --> 04:06:57,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo po,

3272
04:06:57,980 --> 04:07:00,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pag dinisek mo po yung ating pondo ng Office of the Secretary,

3273
04:07:01,140 --> 04:07:03,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi pagdating po, doon lang po ilalagak yan.

3274
04:07:03,920 --> 04:07:08,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero eventually, pagdating ng implementation, it will be trickled down to the regional offices,

3275
04:07:09,240 --> 04:07:11,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: down to provincial levels, per district, per town,

3276
04:07:11,980 --> 04:07:16,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para magkaroon po ng employment at tulong sa ating mga kababayan.

3277
04:07:16,820 --> 04:07:20,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Simple as that, Madam Speaker and ating Distinguished Colleague.

3278
04:07:20,000 --> 04:07:23,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

3279
04:07:23,980 --> 04:07:27,620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: binibigyang matwid ngayon ng Department of Labor and Employment,

3280
04:07:27,980 --> 04:07:34,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na mahigit kalahati ng budget na hinihingi ng DOLE for the Office of the Secretary,

3281
04:07:34,640 --> 04:07:40,040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay ilalaan sa tupad kung ang isa sa malaking mandato ng DOLE

3282
04:07:40,040 --> 04:07:44,900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay proteksyonan, ipagtanggol, at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

3283
04:07:45,340 --> 04:07:51,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Papaano maiintindihan ng mga manggagawa na ginagampanan ng DOLE

3284
04:07:51,340 --> 04:07:54,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang napakaraming mga responsibilidad na ito

3285
04:07:54,980 --> 04:07:57,700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung 67% ng budget,

3286
04:07:57,980 --> 04:08:01,320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay ilalagak natin sa Office of the Secretary,

3287
04:08:01,780 --> 04:08:03,560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: partikular sa programang tupad.

3288
04:08:04,100 --> 04:08:06,780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang binabanggit po ng butihing sponsor, Madam Speaker,

3289
04:08:07,360 --> 04:08:12,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay para daw po makapag-provide ng mga emergency na trabaho.

3290
04:08:12,740 --> 04:08:13,680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama po ba ito, Mr. Sponsor?

3291
04:08:13,680 --> 04:08:17,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That is correct, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

3292
04:08:17,180 --> 04:08:23,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, malinaw po ba na refleksyon ito ng labor policy ng ating pamahalaan

3293
04:08:23,180 --> 04:08:27,580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung saan mas binibigyang prioridad ang mga emergency jobs?

3294
04:08:27,980 --> 04:08:32,040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa halip ng lumikha ng mga trabahong pangmatagalan at dekalidad,

3295
04:08:32,200 --> 04:08:32,820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor?

3296
04:08:34,060 --> 04:08:35,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

3297
04:08:36,000 --> 04:08:39,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, alam mo, yung tupad was started during the pandemic.

3298
04:08:40,460 --> 04:08:41,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And I agree with you.

3299
04:08:41,800 --> 04:08:44,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero you also have to understand, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

3300
04:08:45,460 --> 04:08:48,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating bansa ng Pilipinas, unfortunately,

3301
04:08:48,480 --> 04:08:50,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nagkaroon tayo ng mga natural disasters.

3302
04:08:51,040 --> 04:08:53,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo, pag nangyari ito, even the local governments,

3303
04:08:54,080 --> 04:08:55,400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I came from the local government,

3304
04:08:55,400 --> 04:08:56,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: minsan karamihan dyan,

3305
04:08:57,100 --> 04:08:57,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: walang pera,

3306
04:08:57,980 --> 04:09:03,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para pang salba sa ating mga naaksidente, binagyo, so on and so forth.

3307
04:09:03,940 --> 04:09:07,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Even pag nagkaroon ng programa para sa ating transport group,

3308
04:09:07,300 --> 04:09:08,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: papasok po ang tupad.

3309
04:09:08,900 --> 04:09:14,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, I get your point na sinasabi po ninyo na dapat lamang ba ay trabaho natin.

3310
04:09:14,400 --> 04:09:16,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: You also have to understand o dapat po nating alalanin,

3311
04:09:17,580 --> 04:09:21,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: puwera sa polisiya na paggawa ng formats, programs ng DOLE,

3312
04:09:21,620 --> 04:09:27,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay kinakailangan na sa mandato rin ito ay magkaroon ng trabaho para sa ating mamamayang Pilipino.

3313
04:09:27,980 --> 04:09:34,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It is not per se na kinakailangan natin na ito ay patuloy na ginagawa,

3314
04:09:34,380 --> 04:09:37,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pero unfortunately, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

3315
04:09:37,380 --> 04:09:39,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito po ay at the end of the day,

3316
04:09:39,940 --> 04:09:42,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kada probinsya at ang buong bansa ay talaga minsan,

3317
04:09:42,660 --> 04:09:46,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: unfortunately, ay nangangailangan ng ayuda at tulong para sa ating mga mamamayan.

3318
04:09:47,700 --> 04:09:49,860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maganda po na nabanggit, Madam Speaker,

3319
04:09:50,800 --> 04:09:52,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng ating butihing sponsor,

3320
04:09:52,920 --> 04:09:57,320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na meron tayong mga isinasaalang-alang na mga konsiderasyon gaya ng krisis.

3321
04:09:57,980 --> 04:10:00,760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngunit, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3322
04:10:01,280 --> 04:10:06,960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po tinatanggap ng representasyong ito na gagamitin dahilan ang krisis

3323
04:10:06,960 --> 04:10:09,700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para sa paglobo ng budget ng tupad.

3324
04:10:10,300 --> 04:10:13,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3325
04:10:13,520 --> 04:10:14,500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: makikita natin,

3326
04:10:15,940 --> 04:10:20,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa loob ng sampung taon mula 2016,

3327
04:10:21,760 --> 04:10:24,460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi nagbago, virtually the same,

3328
04:10:24,460 --> 04:10:26,460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang pondong inilalaan

3329
04:10:27,980 --> 04:10:30,880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga trabaho o mandato

3330
04:10:30,880 --> 04:10:33,120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Dole Office of the Secretary

3331
04:10:33,120 --> 04:10:34,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: samantalang kitang-kita

3332
04:10:34,840 --> 04:10:37,900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang papalubo at papalaking bilang

3333
04:10:37,900 --> 04:10:40,060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng inilalagak natin sa tupad.

3334
04:10:40,960 --> 04:10:42,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, hindi po maaaring sabihin

3335
04:10:42,380 --> 04:10:44,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na dahil sa krisis, Madam Speaker,

3336
04:10:45,660 --> 04:10:48,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil bago pa man magkaroon ng krisis,

3337
04:10:48,640 --> 04:10:51,220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Dole, batay sa kanyang budget,

3338
04:10:51,700 --> 04:10:54,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: papalaki ng papalaki ang inilalagak sa tupad

3339
04:10:54,940 --> 04:10:56,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kaysa palakihin ang budget

3340
04:10:56,940 --> 04:10:57,960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa iba pa.

3341
04:10:57,980 --> 04:11:00,320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ang mga funksyon ng Department of Labor and Employment?

3342
04:11:00,400 --> 04:11:01,040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor.

3343
04:11:01,720 --> 04:11:03,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

3344
04:11:04,000 --> 04:11:05,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'd like to correct the facts.

3345
04:11:05,480 --> 04:11:09,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sa Office of the Secretary, it's not 67%, but 52%.

3346
04:11:09,180 --> 04:11:12,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: For the record, Distinguished Colleague,

3347
04:11:12,660 --> 04:11:13,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and secondly,

3348
04:11:13,920 --> 04:11:15,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tama po, but you also have to understand,

3349
04:11:16,180 --> 04:11:18,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tupad per se is not just tupad per se.

3350
04:11:18,280 --> 04:11:21,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It also includes the government internship program

3351
04:11:21,580 --> 04:11:23,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung saan yung ating mga fresh graduates

3352
04:11:23,780 --> 04:11:25,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay papasok sa ating mga gobyerno

3353
04:11:25,540 --> 04:11:27,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: upang sagayoy mag-gain sila ng employability

3354
04:11:27,820 --> 04:11:27,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at mag-gain sila ng employability

3355
04:11:27,980 --> 04:11:29,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: alam naman po natin dito sa ating bansa

3356
04:11:29,980 --> 04:11:33,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung saan karamihan ng mga ating employers

3357
04:11:33,240 --> 04:11:35,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay nangangailangan ng kinakailangan experience

3358
04:11:35,880 --> 04:11:37,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para ito ay sila'y ma-hire.

3359
04:11:37,680 --> 04:11:39,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And in fact, sabi ko nga,

3360
04:11:39,200 --> 04:11:40,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: because of this situation,

3361
04:11:41,260 --> 04:11:43,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay ito po ay maraming mga fresh graduates

3362
04:11:43,680 --> 04:11:44,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang makikinabang dito.

3363
04:11:45,040 --> 04:11:46,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sabi ko nga, ang isa sa mandato

3364
04:11:46,360 --> 04:11:47,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating departemento

3365
04:11:47,820 --> 04:11:49,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay mag-create ng ating mga trabaho

3366
04:11:49,540 --> 04:11:53,400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: not only for the normal na manggagawa

3367
04:11:53,400 --> 04:11:56,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: but also sa ating mga fresh graduates

3368
04:11:56,060 --> 04:11:56,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dito sa ating bansa.

3369
04:11:56,840 --> 04:11:57,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

3370
04:11:57,980 --> 04:12:00,300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3371
04:12:00,360 --> 04:12:03,300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: binabanggit po ng DOLE na hindi 67%,

3372
04:12:03,300 --> 04:12:04,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kundi 52% lamang.

3373
04:12:05,500 --> 04:12:07,660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero malinaw po, doon sa budget ng DOLE,

3374
04:12:07,780 --> 04:12:09,200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: wala naman kasing distinksyon

3375
04:12:09,200 --> 04:12:10,880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang TUPAD at GIP.

3376
04:12:11,820 --> 04:12:13,040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So kapag sinuma natin,

3377
04:12:13,160 --> 04:12:17,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 67% ang nasa TUPAD, hindi 52%.

3378
04:12:17,100 --> 04:12:19,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Be that as it may, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

3379
04:12:20,540 --> 04:12:23,240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang punto natin, mahigit kalahati pa rin

3380
04:12:23,240 --> 04:12:25,620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng pondo ang inilalagak sa TUPAD.

3381
04:12:25,620 --> 04:12:26,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya ako po ito tinanong,

3382
04:12:26,980 --> 04:12:28,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3383
04:12:28,980 --> 04:12:32,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasi sa 2025 COA findings,

3384
04:12:32,980 --> 04:12:37,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sangkatutak na irregularidad ang nakita sa TUPAD.

3385
04:12:37,980 --> 04:12:40,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Halimbawa, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3386
04:12:40,980 --> 04:12:42,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: base sa audit findings ng COA,

3387
04:12:42,980 --> 04:12:45,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: may mga benepisaryo ang TUPAD

3388
04:12:45,980 --> 04:12:48,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakakatanggap ng payout,

3389
04:12:48,980 --> 04:12:50,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi lang po isang beses,

3390
04:12:50,980 --> 04:12:52,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi lang dalawang beses,

3391
04:12:52,980 --> 04:12:56,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kundi tatlo hanggang apat na beses,

3392
04:12:56,980 --> 04:12:59,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakakatanggap ng payout.

3393
04:12:59,980 --> 04:13:05,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mismong DOLE ay nagva-violate ng guidelines o rule

3394
04:13:05,980 --> 04:13:07,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pagdating sa TUPAD.

3395
04:13:07,980 --> 04:13:10,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: One per family per year.

3396
04:13:10,980 --> 04:13:14,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos ngayon, nagre-request uli ang Department of Labor and Employment,

3397
04:13:14,980 --> 04:13:16,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3398
04:13:16,980 --> 04:13:20,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng pagkalaki-laking budget na naman sa TUPAD

3399
04:13:20,980 --> 04:13:25,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na hindi pa nare-resolve ba ang sistema dito

3400
04:13:25,980 --> 04:13:28,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa mga benepisaryo ng TUPAD.

3401
04:13:28,980 --> 04:13:30,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor.

3402
04:13:30,980 --> 04:13:33,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

3403
04:13:33,980 --> 04:13:38,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, to answer directly sa ating katanungan ng ating sponsor,

3404
04:13:38,980 --> 04:13:41,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I clarify that also to the Department.

3405
04:13:41,980 --> 04:13:44,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Siguro ang tinutukoy niyo po dito ay yung 1,275

3406
04:13:44,980 --> 04:13:47,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na naka-finlag ng COA, na Commission on Audit,

3407
04:13:47,980 --> 04:13:51,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung saan nakatanggap ito di umano ng dalawang beses.

3408
04:13:51,980 --> 04:13:54,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: For the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

3409
04:13:54,980 --> 04:13:56,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pinanong na po natin kung sa regional director,

3410
04:13:56,980 --> 04:14:00,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung saan region ito ay nangyari base doon sa ating COA report.

3411
04:14:00,980 --> 04:14:06,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At doon po sa sinasabing 1,275, may explanation po dyan at ito po iyon.

3412
04:14:06,980 --> 04:14:12,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Una, yung 1,275 na binabanggit ay nagkamali po yun sa database lamang.

3413
04:14:12,980 --> 04:14:17,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Because kasama po doon sa mga 1,275 na iyon,

3414
04:14:17,980 --> 04:14:23,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: let me reiterate, Mr. Distinguished Colleague, na yes, tama ka doon sa sinabi mong isang beses lamang.

3415
04:14:23,980 --> 04:14:27,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pwede magtupad. Pero there's an exception to it.

3416
04:14:27,980 --> 04:14:30,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pag may kalamidad, pwedeng umulit po. That's for the record.

3417
04:14:30,980 --> 04:14:37,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero nung ito ay nating nadiskubre doon sa database po, nagkamali lamang sa database.

3418
04:14:37,980 --> 04:14:40,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ito ay naayos na po natin sa Commission on Audit.

3419
04:14:40,980 --> 04:14:49,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At kinalabasan po dito na 15 lamang out of the 1,275 ang nagkaroon ng doubling payment.

3420
04:14:49,980 --> 04:14:52,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And for the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

3421
04:14:52,980 --> 04:14:58,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa labing limang iyon, sinigurado rin po natin, siyempre, sabi ko nga po, ang dole ay laging susunod.

3422
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:10,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa alituntunin ng batas at lalo na sa sarili niyang requirement na dapat isang beses lamang bayaran ang isang nagmembro o nagtrabaho para sa tupad.

3423
04:15:11,060 --> 04:15:21,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And for information of the body, kahit i-double check po natin, yung labing limang recipient po yun ay nakuha na po muli yung ating pondo

3424
04:15:21,100 --> 04:15:27,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dahil nagkamali nga po at yan po ay ni-report na po namin sa COA, Madam Speaker at Distinguished Colleague.

3425
04:15:27,060 --> 04:15:38,060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, hindi lang po 1,275 beneficiaries. Batay po sa COA findings, meron din pong nakakuha sa Saksargen,

3426
04:15:38,700 --> 04:15:49,460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 330 persons collected assistance twice, 57 collected three times, and 132 collected four times.

3427
04:15:49,460 --> 04:15:56,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So hindi po po pwedeng gamitin na palusot ng dole na meron lang simpleng problema sa database.

3428
04:15:56,020 --> 04:16:02,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, hindi po kami nagpapalusot, Distinguished Colleague.

3429
04:16:03,140 --> 04:16:09,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Based dun po sa mga binanggit po niyo sa Saksargen and the rest, all of those are already settled sa COA.

3430
04:16:09,220 --> 04:16:16,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sabi ko nga po, hindi po po pwedeng kami po ay very strict pertaining sa implementation ng hindi lamang sa tupad,

3431
04:16:16,320 --> 04:16:19,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: bagkos sa lahat ng programa ng ating Department of Labor and Employment.

3432
04:16:19,920 --> 04:16:26,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At sisiguraduin ko po sa inyo, after this, we can give you the data na kung saan na binigay na po namin sa Commission on Oil,

3433
04:16:26,020 --> 04:16:28,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at nasettle na po yung lahat ng ating gagawin.

3434
04:16:28,340 --> 04:16:34,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In short, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, dun sa mga binanggit po natin, may ito be Saksargen, may ito be Zamboanga Peninsula,

3435
04:16:35,140 --> 04:16:42,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at the end of the day, kahit saan po yan, sisiguraduin namin, sabi ko nga po, minsan nagkakamali at inaamin during the aking example,

3436
04:16:43,480 --> 04:16:52,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pero sinisigurado namin, nire-retract natin ito, ginagawa natin tama at sumusunod sa alituntunin ng ating Commission on Audit, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

3437
04:16:52,020 --> 04:16:55,960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

3438
04:16:56,020 --> 04:17:08,120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, dahil pinagtibay lang ng ating butihing sponsor, ang ating binabanggit kanina, na ang pondo, malaking pondo na inilalagak sa Dole, Office of the Secretary, ay napupunta sa Tupad,

3439
04:17:09,040 --> 04:17:13,680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at mas pinagtibay pa ito ng ating pinag-uusapan kanina. At dyan po ako tutungo.

3440
04:17:14,600 --> 04:17:19,240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ulitin lang po natin, ano nga ba ang mandato ng Department of Labor and Employment?

3441
04:17:20,240 --> 04:17:25,920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ipagtanggol at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

3442
04:17:26,020 --> 04:17:36,960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At isa sa paraan para itaguyod at ipagtanggol ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa ay sa pamamagitan ng labor inspeksyon.

3443
04:17:37,860 --> 04:17:49,680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya nga po, kinikilala mismo ni Sekretary ng butihing Sekretary ng Department of Labor and Employment, kulang naman talaga ang mga labor inspectors.

3444
04:17:49,680 --> 04:17:55,780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya kailangan natin dagdagan ng budget. Ito po ang malaking tanong.

3445
04:17:56,020 --> 04:18:06,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, kung kinikilala ng Department of Labor and Employment ang malaking kakulangan sa mga inspektor,

3446
04:18:07,020 --> 04:18:14,780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bakit sa halip nalagakan ng mas malaking pondo ang ating mga labor inspektor ay inilalaan ito muli sa Tupad?

3447
04:18:16,100 --> 04:18:20,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Papaano ngayon tinitindigan ng Department of Labor and Employment ang kanyang mandato?

3448
04:18:20,640 --> 04:18:26,000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kung sa simpleng labor inspektor ay hindi nito magawang tindigan ang kanyang mandato.

3449
04:18:26,020 --> 04:18:33,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, maraming salamat po dun sa pagbigay mo ng impormasyon na iyon. Bakit?

3450
04:18:33,020 --> 04:18:41,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Una, kasi nga po, tandaan po natin, pag in terms of plantilya positions, it has to run through the Department of Budget and Management.

3451
04:18:41,020 --> 04:18:50,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At sinabi na rin po natin during the budget hearing, ang actual plantilya positions po natin, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ay 1,210.

3452
04:18:50,020 --> 04:18:54,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero ang ating actual lamang is around 1,046.

3453
04:18:54,020 --> 04:18:55,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At nabanggit din po sa

3454
04:18:55,020 --> 04:18:56,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nasabing

3455
04:18:56,020 --> 04:19:10,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: budget hearing, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, sa lawak ng kakailangan inspeksyonin, and again, I'd like to quote the Secretary, sa Region 3 alone, mahigit 7,000 na ang kailangang inspeksyunin.

3456
04:19:10,020 --> 04:19:19,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Iyon po ay isang region lamang po. Pero kapag buong kabuan, sa suma total ay halos kailangan mo ng 9,000 na labor inspectors.

3457
04:19:19,020 --> 04:19:25,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At iyan po ay binanggit po natin nung nanakaraang budget hearing ng Department of Labor and Employment na sana,

3458
04:19:25,020 --> 04:19:39,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: not in one year, kahit staggered po, kahit within 10 years, pero sana para lalo natin mapagsilbihan yung ating mga manggagawa, maportereksyonan sila doon sa mga ating labor inspections, ay sana ay madagdagan ito eventually in the long run.

3459
04:19:39,020 --> 04:19:43,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya nga po, Mr. Sponsor, hindi po nasagot ang tanong.

3460
04:19:43,020 --> 04:19:47,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nangangailangan ng malaking bilang na mga labor inspector ang DOLE.

3461
04:19:47,020 --> 04:19:53,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero sa halip na ilagak ng Office of the Secretary ng DOLE ang pondo sa mga labor inspector,

3462
04:19:53,020 --> 04:19:59,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mas minarapat ng DOLE na maglagak ng mas malaking pondo sa TUPAD.

3463
04:19:59,020 --> 04:20:03,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po sinasagot ng Department of Labor and Employment.

3464
04:20:03,020 --> 04:20:07,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: TUPAD? Labor Inspector.

3465
04:20:07,020 --> 04:20:11,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Just to prove a point, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3466
04:20:11,020 --> 04:20:19,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: alam niyo po kung gaano ka-absurd yung itsura ng budget ng Department of Labor and Employment, Office of the Secretary?

3467
04:20:19,020 --> 04:20:21,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Admin cost ng TUPAD?

3468
04:20:21,020 --> 04:20:25,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 712 million pesos.

3469
04:20:27,020 --> 04:20:35,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Samantala, ang sahod ng mga labor inspector, 605 million pesos lang.

3470
04:20:35,020 --> 04:20:39,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ba namang klaseng kalokohan yan, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor?

3471
04:20:39,020 --> 04:20:47,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mas malaki ang nilalagak sa admin cost ng TUPAD kaysa pagpapasahod ng mga labor inspector.

3472
04:20:47,020 --> 04:20:49,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Batid po ba ng Department of Labor and Employment?

3473
04:20:49,020 --> 04:20:52,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Gaano kahirap ang buhay ng mga inspector?

3474
04:20:52,020 --> 04:20:56,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ako po mismo, ang kinatawang ito, ay sumama sa mga inspector sa Laguna.

3475
04:20:56,020 --> 04:21:03,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos ang maririnig po natin ngayon, eh mas okay na na mas lakihan ng budget sa TUPAD kaysa sa mga labor inspector.

3476
04:21:03,020 --> 04:21:09,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At ang gagamitin na dahilan, eh keso kulang ang budget o mahirap yung mga proseso.

3477
04:21:09,020 --> 04:21:15,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po maunawaan nito, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor ng mga manggagawa.

3478
04:21:17,020 --> 04:21:18,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

3479
04:21:18,020 --> 04:21:21,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: unang-unang, I'd like to go back na sinabi mong hindi nasagot.

3480
04:21:21,020 --> 04:21:23,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sinagot ko po yung katanungan.

3481
04:21:23,020 --> 04:21:27,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kasi nga po, hindi naman nakalagak yan sa DOLE per se.

3482
04:21:27,020 --> 04:21:31,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga po hinihingi ng aming Departamento.

3483
04:21:31,020 --> 04:21:35,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Again, I'm sure you're familiar, alam mo po yung proseso, Congressman Eli,

3484
04:21:35,020 --> 04:21:40,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hindi basta-basta ay pipwedeng ikaw ay maglagay lamang ng ating mga inspectors.

3485
04:21:40,020 --> 04:21:43,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It has to go through the process, DBM, so on and so forth.

3486
04:21:43,020 --> 04:21:46,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And yun po ay sinagot po natin nung ulang statement po agad natin.

3487
04:21:46,020 --> 04:21:47,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon, patukol naman ito, eh.

3488
04:21:47,020 --> 04:21:51,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon, patukol naman doon sa ating mga pasweldo ng ating mga ano,

3489
04:21:51,020 --> 04:21:55,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: based doon sa records po namin,

3490
04:21:55,020 --> 04:21:58,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung 524 million na pasweldo natin,

3491
04:21:58,020 --> 04:21:59,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: P.S.

3492
04:21:59,020 --> 04:22:01,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: mas mataas po kesa doon sa ating

3493
04:22:01,020 --> 04:22:05,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: P.S. pa lang po ang binibilang natin dito, Mr. Sponsor.

3494
04:22:05,020 --> 04:22:08,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So kapag sinuma natin, mas malaki pa rin ang admin cost ng tupad

3495
04:22:08,020 --> 04:22:12,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kaysa sa pasweldo ng mga labor inspector.

3496
04:22:12,020 --> 04:22:14,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor?

3497
04:22:14,020 --> 04:22:16,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pasweldo? Ano pa yung admin?

3498
04:22:16,020 --> 04:22:19,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes. It is the part of the...

3499
04:22:19,020 --> 04:22:22,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: parte po yun nung sa ating sweldo, Madam Speaker,

3500
04:22:22,020 --> 04:22:24,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga po, yun po ang binabigit po.

3501
04:22:24,020 --> 04:22:26,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kasi admin cost po kasi is 5%. Diba?

3502
04:22:26,020 --> 04:22:28,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama po. Nasa special provision. Tama po.

3503
04:22:28,020 --> 04:22:29,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes. That's correct.

3504
04:22:29,020 --> 04:22:33,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya ang pinupunto po ng kinatawang ito, eh bakit mas malaki ang hinihinging budget

3505
04:22:33,020 --> 04:22:37,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng DOLE Office of the Secretary sa tupad,

3506
04:22:37,020 --> 04:22:40,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 5% of which mapupunta sa admin cost,

3507
04:22:40,020 --> 04:22:44,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: samantalang napakalaki ng problema at pangangailangan sa mga labor inspector.

3508
04:22:44,020 --> 04:22:45,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: This is what I'm pointing about.

3509
04:22:45,020 --> 04:22:47,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3510
04:22:47,020 --> 04:22:51,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang daming dapat nai-inspect ng mga business establishments

3511
04:22:51,020 --> 04:22:54,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pero mas pinipili ng Department of Labor and Employment

3512
04:22:54,020 --> 04:22:56,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na maglagak sa tupad.

3513
04:22:56,020 --> 04:23:00,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Eh paano matitiyak na napoproteksyonan ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa

3514
04:23:00,020 --> 04:23:04,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung puro tupad ang Department of Labor and Employment?

3515
04:23:06,020 --> 04:23:08,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

3516
04:23:08,020 --> 04:23:10,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga po kanina,

3517
04:23:10,020 --> 04:23:12,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining doon sa ating tupad,

3518
04:23:12,020 --> 04:23:14,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it is not only per se na tupad.

3519
04:23:14,020 --> 04:23:18,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Binanggit niyo po yan sa ating Government Internship Program.

3520
04:23:18,020 --> 04:23:22,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero pag sino matutal mo po, hindi naman po kami nagkulang pertaining sa ating pinaglalaban.

3521
04:23:22,020 --> 04:23:24,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I agree with you. Bakit?

3522
04:23:24,020 --> 04:23:28,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga po kami nagre-request ng karagdagan.

3523
04:23:28,020 --> 04:23:33,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That was clear as day na sana kung kami ay tutulungan ng kapulungan na ito

3524
04:23:33,020 --> 04:23:35,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasama ang Senado at ating national budget,

3525
04:23:35,020 --> 04:23:39,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kaya nga po ang kinakailangan na plantilya positions

3526
04:23:39,020 --> 04:23:42,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: based sa ating statement nung ating budget healing

3527
04:23:42,020 --> 04:23:46,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay 9,000 na labor inspectors ang kailangan.

3528
04:23:46,020 --> 04:23:49,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

3529
04:23:49,020 --> 04:23:52,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it is very very difficult to balance everything.

3530
04:23:52,020 --> 04:23:55,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming pangangailangan pero ito ay kapos lamang.

3531
04:23:55,020 --> 04:23:58,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming mandato ang ating Departamento.

3532
04:23:58,020 --> 04:24:00,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, magbigay ng trabaho.

3533
04:24:00,020 --> 04:24:06,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pangalawa, to secure the safetiness of our workers in every aspect possible.

3534
04:24:06,020 --> 04:24:10,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So sabi ko nga po, hindi naman tayo magkakaroon ng malaking problema

3535
04:24:10,020 --> 04:24:13,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung ito ay sapat yung ating pondo.

3536
04:24:13,020 --> 04:24:16,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But, kahit hindi po sapat yung pondo namin,

3537
04:24:16,020 --> 04:24:19,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito po ay nagagampanan naman namin yung aming trabaho.

3538
04:24:19,020 --> 04:24:23,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan ay based dun sa results ng ating mga performance sa NLRC,

3539
04:24:23,020 --> 04:24:26,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating mga patrabaho, sa job start.

3540
04:24:26,020 --> 04:24:32,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In fact, nung September 14, nagkaroon po tayo ng nationwide na programa

3541
04:24:32,020 --> 04:24:34,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating Department of Labor and Employment.

3542
04:24:34,020 --> 04:24:39,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So again, we are not just focused o di lang kami nagtutuon sa isang programa.

3543
04:24:39,020 --> 04:24:41,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

3544
04:24:41,020 --> 04:24:47,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, hindi nga po nagtutugma yung binabanggit nyo

3545
04:24:47,020 --> 04:24:50,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa budget allocation ng DOLE.

3546
04:24:50,020 --> 04:24:54,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sinasabi nyo napakaraming responsibilidad ng DOLE.

3547
04:24:54,020 --> 04:24:59,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero malaking bahagdan ay napupunta nga doon sa TUPAD.

3548
04:24:59,020 --> 04:25:04,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So hindi po sinagot ng distinguished sponsor natin yung problema ang hinaharap.

3549
04:25:04,020 --> 04:25:07,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sinasabi nyo po, kailangan dagdagan ng budget.

3550
04:25:07,020 --> 04:25:08,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Eh bakit hindi natin gawin?

3551
04:25:09,020 --> 04:25:13,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ilagak yung mas malaking bahagi na nilaalaan natin doon sa TUPAD,

3552
04:25:13,020 --> 04:25:17,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ibigay natin doon sa ibang mandato at functions.

3553
04:25:17,020 --> 04:25:19,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

3554
04:25:19,020 --> 04:25:22,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sinagot ko po kanina, with all due respect,

3555
04:25:22,020 --> 04:25:27,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi ka po pa pwedeng maglagay ng labor inspectors first.

3556
04:25:27,020 --> 04:25:30,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kahit may pondo ka po, kinakailangan may plantilla positions first.

3557
04:25:30,020 --> 04:25:32,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That I understand, Mr. Sponsor.

3558
04:25:32,020 --> 04:25:36,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So would you agree with me that at the appropriate time,

3559
04:25:36,020 --> 04:25:39,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: magkakaroon ng amyenda sa budget,

3560
04:25:39,020 --> 04:25:42,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor and Employment, Office of the Secretary,

3561
04:25:42,020 --> 04:25:47,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at ilagak natin sa iba pang functions ng Department of Labor and Employment,

3562
04:25:47,020 --> 04:25:49,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: instead of putting it all together,

3563
04:25:49,020 --> 04:25:51,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: more than half of the budget sa TUPAD?

3564
04:25:51,020 --> 04:25:52,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

3565
04:25:52,020 --> 04:25:55,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam po nyo, as I've mentioned earlier,

3566
04:25:55,020 --> 04:25:58,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang Departamento ay lagi sumusunod sa batas.

3567
04:25:58,020 --> 04:26:01,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ang Kongreso, na sinasabi nyo po, I will quote you,

3568
04:26:01,020 --> 04:26:05,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na pag kayo ay nilipat mo yung pondo,

3569
04:26:05,020 --> 04:26:08,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we will adhere to the wisdom of both houses,

3570
04:26:08,020 --> 04:26:10,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of both houses of Congress.

3571
04:26:10,020 --> 04:26:12,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's all, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

3572
04:26:12,020 --> 04:26:13,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Tama po yun.

3573
04:26:13,020 --> 04:26:18,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kongreso ang naglalagak at nagde-desisyon sa budget.

3574
04:26:18,020 --> 04:26:22,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero kung titignan natin, kahit Kongreso ang naglalagak sa budget,

3575
04:26:22,020 --> 04:26:26,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: makikita natin ang DOLE nagre-request pa rin

3576
04:26:26,020 --> 04:26:29,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mas malaki batay doon sa benchmark

3577
04:26:29,020 --> 04:26:32,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng nakaraang pondo sa TUPAD.

3578
04:26:32,020 --> 04:26:36,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya pinapatibay lang nito ang pondo, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

3579
04:26:36,020 --> 04:26:41,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na mas focused ang DOLE sa TUPAD kaysa sa ibang functions nito.

3580
04:26:41,020 --> 04:26:44,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sunod na po na tanong, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

3581
04:26:44,020 --> 04:26:49,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Noong September 7, pinirmahan ang Wage Order No. 28.

3582
04:26:49,020 --> 04:26:52,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa proseso ng paglalabas ng Wage Order,

3583
04:26:52,020 --> 04:26:55,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dapat may public hearing.

3584
04:26:55,020 --> 04:27:05,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dapat gawin ang nakasulat sa Rule 3, Section 3C of the Omnibus Guidelines on Minimum Wage,

3585
04:27:05,020 --> 04:27:07,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Determination.

3586
04:27:07,020 --> 04:27:09,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And I quote,

3587
04:27:09,020 --> 04:27:15,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The chairperson shall make a preliminary statement

3588
04:27:15,020 --> 04:27:20,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to apprise the attendees of the purposes of the public hearing,

3589
04:27:20,020 --> 04:27:26,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: such as to thresh out petitions for wage increase filed,

3590
04:27:26,020 --> 04:27:29,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: assess the socio-economic condition in the region,

3591
04:27:29,020 --> 04:27:34,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: gather relevant data and information prior to the issuance of a wage order.

3592
04:27:34,020 --> 04:27:38,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So ibig sabihin, pag nagkaroon ng public consultation or hearing,

3593
04:27:38,020 --> 04:27:43,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dapat i-apprise ng chairperson ng Regional Wage Board

3594
04:27:43,020 --> 04:27:47,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga attendees kung saan, patungkol saan ang meeting.

3595
04:27:47,020 --> 04:27:52,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Question, ginawa ba ito ng Regional Wage Board, Department of Labor and Employment?

3596
04:27:57,020 --> 04:28:02,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes, patungkol po sa Wage Order No. 28.

3597
04:28:02,020 --> 04:28:05,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I have with me doon sa September 2 notice of meeting.

3598
04:28:05,020 --> 04:28:10,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At nakalagay po dito, I'd like to, if you will allow me, Distinguished Colleague.

3599
04:28:10,020 --> 04:28:13,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, the venue will be at the Occupational Safety and Health Center.

3600
04:28:13,020 --> 04:28:16,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan po yung patawag. Tama po ba?

3601
04:28:16,020 --> 04:28:17,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, that's correct.

3602
04:28:17,020 --> 04:28:20,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Okay po, sa agenda po tayo at doon particular sa tanong ko,

3603
04:28:20,020 --> 04:28:27,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: inapprise ba ng Regional Director ng DOLE-NCR ang mga attendees tungkol saan ang meeting?

3604
04:28:27,020 --> 04:28:30,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is a very simple question to the DOLE.

3605
04:28:30,020 --> 04:28:31,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes.

3606
04:28:31,020 --> 04:28:34,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, okay po, Mr. Sponsor.

3607
04:28:34,020 --> 04:28:39,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pwede po bang ibaling ko ang inyong atensyon sa video na makikita natin ngayon?

3608
04:28:41,020 --> 04:28:42,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pakiplay po.

3609
04:29:01,020 --> 04:29:04,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat po. Pwede na pong itigil yan.

3610
04:29:04,020 --> 04:29:11,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I am quoting directly the Department of Labor and Employment-NCR Regional Director.

3611
04:29:11,020 --> 04:29:16,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: We questioned DOLE during that time tungkol saan ang meeting na ito.

3612
04:29:16,020 --> 04:29:20,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ang sagot ng Regional Director, Department of Labor and Employment?

3613
04:29:20,020 --> 04:29:25,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pinupulsuhan lang naman namin ang mga manggagawa.

3614
04:29:25,020 --> 04:29:30,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: There was no mention whatsoever about a wage order.

3615
04:29:30,020 --> 04:29:32,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

3616
04:29:32,020 --> 04:29:41,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker and distinguished colleagues, let me first finish doon sa ating binabasa ko kanina, naputol po kasi.

3617
04:29:41,020 --> 04:29:47,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, naiintindihan na po namin yan kasi yan po yung sasabihin doon sa inbitasyon.

3618
04:29:47,020 --> 04:29:54,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos na po ako sa inbitasyon, nandoon na po ako sa appraisal ng DOLE-NCR Regional Director.

3619
04:29:54,020 --> 04:29:58,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Inapprise niya ba yung mga attendees sa public consultation?

3620
04:30:13,980 --> 04:30:15,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

3621
04:30:15,440 --> 04:30:16,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

3622
04:30:16,220 --> 04:30:17,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I just got the information

3623
04:30:17,680 --> 04:30:19,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that the answer is yes.

3624
04:30:19,960 --> 04:30:20,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And sinabi naman po

3625
04:30:20,720 --> 04:30:21,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating Regional Director...

3626
04:30:21,840 --> 04:30:22,680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

3627
04:30:22,900 --> 04:30:23,720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I will cut you there

3628
04:30:23,720 --> 04:30:24,760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil naiintindihan ko po

3629
04:30:24,760 --> 04:30:25,360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang posisyon nyo.

3630
04:30:26,300 --> 04:30:28,400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: But the Regional Director of NCR

3631
04:30:28,400 --> 04:30:30,220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is lying through his teeth.

3632
04:30:32,920 --> 04:30:34,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: We questioned you up front.

3633
04:30:37,920 --> 04:30:39,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Wala po siyang sinabi,

3634
04:30:39,840 --> 04:30:42,260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

3635
04:30:42,420 --> 04:30:43,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor.

3636
04:30:44,080 --> 04:30:45,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang binanggit po ay,

3637
04:30:45,640 --> 04:30:46,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nandun po ang kinatawang ito

3638
04:30:46,980 --> 04:30:48,320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and we have video proof.

3639
04:30:49,660 --> 04:30:51,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pinupulsuhan lang naman namin

3640
04:30:51,440 --> 04:30:53,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang mga manggagawa.

3641
04:30:53,480 --> 04:30:55,260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nilabag kung anong nakasulat

3642
04:30:55,260 --> 04:30:56,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa omnibus rules

3643
04:30:56,440 --> 04:30:58,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: on minimum wage determination.

3644
04:30:58,400 --> 04:31:01,300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

3645
04:31:02,260 --> 04:31:03,220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dole is lying

3646
04:31:03,220 --> 04:31:05,300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: here in this August Chamber.

3647
04:31:07,140 --> 04:31:08,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And I demand,

3648
04:31:08,460 --> 04:31:08,920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: we demand

3649
04:31:08,920 --> 04:31:11,400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the copy of the minutes

3650
04:31:11,400 --> 04:31:12,160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the meeting

3651
04:31:12,160 --> 04:31:14,360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that was conducted that time

3652
04:31:14,360 --> 04:31:16,220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and we will challenge that.

3653
04:31:16,840 --> 04:31:17,920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Especially coming from

3654
04:31:17,920 --> 04:31:18,800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the Regional Director

3655
04:31:18,800 --> 04:31:20,000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of Dole NCR.

3656
04:31:21,780 --> 04:31:22,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

3657
04:31:22,880 --> 04:31:23,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

3658
04:31:24,180 --> 04:31:25,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hiningi po nyo

3659
04:31:25,120 --> 04:31:26,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating kasamahan,

3660
04:31:27,000 --> 04:31:28,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating minutes.

3661
04:31:28,400 --> 04:31:29,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: During the September 2

3662
04:31:29,360 --> 04:31:29,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: public hearing.

3663
04:31:30,440 --> 04:31:32,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And we will oblige to that,

3664
04:31:32,580 --> 04:31:33,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Your Honor,

3665
04:31:33,300 --> 04:31:33,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague.

3666
04:31:34,080 --> 04:31:34,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you po.

3667
04:31:35,080 --> 04:31:35,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sige,

3668
04:31:36,100 --> 04:31:36,960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kunwari na lang,

3669
04:31:37,640 --> 04:31:38,860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kahit harap-harap

3670
04:31:38,860 --> 04:31:39,760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang nagsisinungaling

3671
04:31:39,760 --> 04:31:40,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa bulwagang ito,

3672
04:31:41,400 --> 04:31:41,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagawa,

3673
04:31:42,120 --> 04:31:43,280
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o sinunod yung Dole,

3674
04:31:43,820 --> 04:31:44,740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sinunod ng Dole

3675
04:31:44,740 --> 04:31:45,820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung sarili niyang guidelines.

3676
04:31:46,520 --> 04:31:47,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang proseso,

3677
04:31:48,260 --> 04:31:49,420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dapat mag-meeting

3678
04:31:49,420 --> 04:31:50,520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang National Wages

3679
04:31:50,520 --> 04:31:52,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Productivity Commission

3680
04:31:52,140 --> 04:31:53,900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at aprobahan

3681
04:31:53,900 --> 04:31:55,620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang bagong wage order.

3682
04:31:56,220 --> 04:31:56,600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Question,

3683
04:31:57,560 --> 04:31:58,160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagkaroon ba

3684
04:31:58,160 --> 04:31:58,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng inyong

3685
04:31:58,400 --> 04:31:59,400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: NWPC meeting?

3686
04:32:00,520 --> 04:32:01,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: What date, sir?

3687
04:32:02,160 --> 04:32:02,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: September?

3688
04:32:03,040 --> 04:32:03,960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: No, I'm asking

3689
04:32:03,960 --> 04:32:05,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the Department of Labor

3690
04:32:05,140 --> 04:32:05,720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment,

3691
04:32:05,800 --> 04:32:06,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

3692
04:32:06,560 --> 04:32:07,780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagkaroon ba ng meeting

3693
04:32:07,780 --> 04:32:09,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang National Wages

3694
04:32:09,140 --> 04:32:10,300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Productivity Commission?

3695
04:32:10,640 --> 04:32:10,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes.

3696
04:32:11,320 --> 04:32:12,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: When was the meeting held?

3697
04:32:14,260 --> 04:32:15,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, yung nga po,

3698
04:32:15,100 --> 04:32:15,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: September 10.

3699
04:32:15,760 --> 04:32:16,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: September 10.

3700
04:32:16,440 --> 04:32:16,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Where?

3701
04:32:21,640 --> 04:32:22,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It's

3702
04:32:22,240 --> 04:32:23,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Room 206,

3703
04:32:24,020 --> 04:32:24,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Manila Hotel.

3704
04:32:24,820 --> 04:32:25,200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ayan!

3705
04:32:26,200 --> 04:32:27,560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Let me direct your attention,

3706
04:32:27,560 --> 04:32:28,360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

3707
04:32:28,400 --> 04:32:29,400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or Madam Speaker,

3708
04:32:29,560 --> 04:32:30,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to this video.

3709
04:32:30,140 --> 04:32:30,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you.

3710
04:32:36,280 --> 04:32:44,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang patawag po

3711
04:32:44,840 --> 04:32:45,560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na meeting

3712
04:32:45,560 --> 04:32:47,220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay dapat sa

3713
04:32:47,220 --> 04:32:47,860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The Urum

3714
04:32:47,860 --> 04:32:49,600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Manila Hotel.

3715
04:32:50,860 --> 04:32:51,620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pumunta kami

3716
04:32:51,620 --> 04:32:53,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 1pm

3717
04:32:53,140 --> 04:32:55,300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para imbitahin

3718
04:32:55,300 --> 04:32:56,060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng aming sarili

3719
04:32:56,060 --> 04:32:57,120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil ang pinag-uusapan

3720
04:32:57,120 --> 04:32:57,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng National Wages

3721
04:32:57,940 --> 04:32:59,240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Productivity Commission

3722
04:32:59,240 --> 04:33:01,000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay tungkol sa sahod

3723
04:33:01,000 --> 04:33:02,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga manggagawa.

3724
04:33:02,820 --> 04:33:04,360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero wala kaming nadatnan

3725
04:33:04,360 --> 04:33:05,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga tao

3726
04:33:05,980 --> 04:33:06,620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dun sa meeting.

3727
04:33:06,840 --> 04:33:07,820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At binabanggit po

3728
04:33:07,820 --> 04:33:08,720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng sponsor,

3729
04:33:09,180 --> 04:33:09,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagkaroon daw

3730
04:33:09,980 --> 04:33:10,520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng meeting,

3731
04:33:11,340 --> 04:33:12,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

3732
04:33:12,640 --> 04:33:13,300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa ibang room.

3733
04:33:14,300 --> 04:33:15,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, itinatago

3734
04:33:15,340 --> 04:33:16,900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor

3735
04:33:16,900 --> 04:33:17,620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment

3736
04:33:17,620 --> 04:33:18,540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung meeting na ito.

3737
04:33:19,340 --> 04:33:20,000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Isa pang punto,

3738
04:33:20,100 --> 04:33:20,720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

3739
04:33:22,260 --> 04:33:23,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagsayang

3740
04:33:23,180 --> 04:33:24,780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Department of Labor

3741
04:33:24,780 --> 04:33:25,700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment

3742
04:33:25,700 --> 04:33:26,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng pondo

3743
04:33:26,480 --> 04:33:26,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga manggagawa

3744
04:33:27,940 --> 04:33:29,080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Para sa isang meeting

3745
04:33:29,080 --> 04:33:30,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na hindi naman naganap

3746
04:33:30,380 --> 04:33:31,620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa original

3747
04:33:31,620 --> 04:33:33,580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na dapat nitong pagganapan.

3748
04:33:34,420 --> 04:33:35,680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos ang sasabihin natin,

3749
04:33:36,020 --> 04:33:37,160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: we have very limited

3750
04:33:37,160 --> 04:33:38,260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: fiscal space.

3751
04:33:39,120 --> 04:33:40,400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Naglulustay ng pondo

3752
04:33:40,400 --> 04:33:41,600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Department of Labor

3753
04:33:41,600 --> 04:33:42,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment.

3754
04:33:43,120 --> 04:33:44,860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tinago sa mga manggagawa

3755
04:33:44,860 --> 04:33:47,200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang meeting na ito.

3756
04:33:47,880 --> 04:33:48,780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang sasabihin nila,

3757
04:33:48,880 --> 04:33:49,460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

3758
04:33:49,600 --> 04:33:50,280
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

3759
04:33:50,640 --> 04:33:51,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: confidential naman daw

3760
04:33:51,980 --> 04:33:52,460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang meeting.

3761
04:33:52,860 --> 04:33:54,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: We cannot accept

3762
04:33:54,180 --> 04:33:55,120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that excuse.

3763
04:33:55,900 --> 04:33:56,540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tinataguan

3764
04:33:56,540 --> 04:33:57,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng dole

3765
04:33:57,340 --> 04:33:57,820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang mga manggagawa.

3766
04:33:57,940 --> 04:34:02,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Can I respond,

3767
04:34:02,220 --> 04:34:02,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

3768
04:34:02,720 --> 04:34:03,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague?

3769
04:34:05,360 --> 04:34:05,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes,

3770
04:34:06,200 --> 04:34:07,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: patukoy naman doon

3771
04:34:07,280 --> 04:34:07,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa meeting na sinabinabanggit

3772
04:34:08,460 --> 04:34:08,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating kasamahan.

3773
04:34:10,180 --> 04:34:11,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ang tugon po natin dyan,

3774
04:34:11,880 --> 04:34:12,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yes,

3775
04:34:12,440 --> 04:34:13,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it really happened.

3776
04:34:14,100 --> 04:34:14,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And two,

3777
04:34:14,980 --> 04:34:17,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para sa ating kaalaman

3778
04:34:17,000 --> 04:34:17,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o kalinawan

3779
04:34:17,580 --> 04:34:19,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating mga kasamahan

3780
04:34:19,180 --> 04:34:20,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at baka rin nanunood

3781
04:34:20,340 --> 04:34:20,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating mga

3782
04:34:20,980 --> 04:34:22,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ngayong araw na ito,

3783
04:34:22,760 --> 04:34:23,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay hindi po namin

3784
04:34:23,380 --> 04:34:24,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tinatago

3785
04:34:24,100 --> 04:34:25,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung nasabing meeting.

3786
04:34:25,600 --> 04:34:25,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In fact,

3787
04:34:26,620 --> 04:34:27,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga,

3788
04:34:27,340 --> 04:34:28,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung pag-transfer

3789
04:34:28,480 --> 04:34:31,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng room

3790
04:34:31,120 --> 04:34:31,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay because of

3791
04:34:31,800 --> 04:34:32,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: some disruptions.

3792
04:34:33,340 --> 04:34:34,260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Disruption!

3793
04:34:35,200 --> 04:34:35,500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes,

3794
04:34:36,000 --> 04:34:36,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: so,

3795
04:34:36,680 --> 04:34:36,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung

3796
04:34:36,940 --> 04:34:38,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: September 10,

3797
04:34:38,300 --> 04:34:38,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 2026

3798
04:34:38,960 --> 04:34:40,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: NWPC Review Meeting

3799
04:34:40,520 --> 04:34:41,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: legally valid

3800
04:34:41,620 --> 04:34:42,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: despite the shortened notice

3801
04:34:42,900 --> 04:34:43,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to transfer from

3802
04:34:43,740 --> 04:34:44,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that dao room

3803
04:34:44,560 --> 04:34:45,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to room 260

3804
04:34:45,720 --> 04:34:47,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of the Manero Hotel.

3805
04:34:47,540 --> 04:34:47,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon,

3806
04:34:47,940 --> 04:34:48,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sasabihin po,

3807
04:34:49,480 --> 04:34:50,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: naririnig ko po kayo,

3808
04:34:50,180 --> 04:34:50,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

3809
04:34:51,040 --> 04:34:51,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and

3810
04:34:51,200 --> 04:34:54,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: siguro mas maganda

3811
04:34:54,320 --> 04:34:54,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay para

3812
04:34:54,820 --> 04:34:56,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi mo po sinasabi

3813
04:34:56,600 --> 04:34:57,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kami po ay

3814
04:34:57,300 --> 04:34:57,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: mag-transfer.

3815
04:34:57,340 --> 04:34:58,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: May tinatago

3816
04:34:58,000 --> 04:34:59,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang Department of Labor

3817
04:34:59,040 --> 04:34:59,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of Employment.

3818
04:35:00,060 --> 04:35:00,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Willing naman po tayo

3819
04:35:00,920 --> 04:35:02,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ilabas yung minutes

3820
04:35:02,140 --> 04:35:04,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nung ating pinag-usapan

3821
04:35:04,180 --> 04:35:04,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: during that

3822
04:35:04,760 --> 04:35:05,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: said meeting.

3823
04:35:05,760 --> 04:35:05,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

3824
04:35:06,720 --> 04:35:07,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para sa kalaman po

3825
04:35:07,580 --> 04:35:08,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng lahat,

3826
04:35:08,540 --> 04:35:09,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi po ito tinatago

3827
04:35:09,740 --> 04:35:10,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o sinasabing

3828
04:35:10,540 --> 04:35:11,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: secret meeting.

3829
04:35:11,500 --> 04:35:11,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Bakit?

3830
04:35:12,060 --> 04:35:13,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kasi present naman po

3831
04:35:13,100 --> 04:35:14,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating labor groups

3832
04:35:14,280 --> 04:35:15,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: during those

3833
04:35:15,220 --> 04:35:15,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: meeting.

3834
04:35:16,160 --> 04:35:16,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

3835
04:35:17,020 --> 04:35:18,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: makikita rin po natin yan

3836
04:35:18,200 --> 04:35:19,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun sa ating minutes

3837
04:35:19,200 --> 04:35:19,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating

3838
04:35:19,960 --> 04:35:21,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sinabing

3839
04:35:21,320 --> 04:35:22,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: September 10

3840
04:35:22,080 --> 04:35:22,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: meeting.

3841
04:35:23,480 --> 04:35:24,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's all,

3842
04:35:24,360 --> 04:35:24,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

3843
04:35:25,060 --> 04:35:25,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague.

3844
04:35:25,540 --> 04:35:26,200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

3845
04:35:26,200 --> 04:35:27,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

3846
04:35:27,340 --> 04:35:29,860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po katanggap-tanggap

3847
04:35:29,860 --> 04:35:31,560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang excuse

3848
04:35:31,560 --> 04:35:32,920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor

3849
04:35:32,920 --> 04:35:33,700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment.

3850
04:35:34,360 --> 04:35:35,080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi nyo po,

3851
04:35:35,560 --> 04:35:36,500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: merong labor groups

3852
04:35:36,500 --> 04:35:37,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na present

3853
04:35:37,100 --> 04:35:37,780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nandoon

3854
04:35:37,780 --> 04:35:38,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang buong National Wage

3855
04:35:38,940 --> 04:35:39,700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Coalition.

3856
04:35:40,640 --> 04:35:41,220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tinaguan

3857
04:35:41,220 --> 04:35:42,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Department of Labor

3858
04:35:42,380 --> 04:35:43,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment.

3859
04:35:43,760 --> 04:35:44,660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At ang punto dito,

3860
04:35:45,480 --> 04:35:46,240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung nagkaroon man

3861
04:35:46,240 --> 04:35:47,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng ibang meeting

3862
04:35:47,100 --> 04:35:48,580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa same venue,

3863
04:35:49,120 --> 04:35:50,040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagsasayang kayo

3864
04:35:50,040 --> 04:35:50,660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng pondo

3865
04:35:50,660 --> 04:35:52,060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para pagtaguan

3866
04:35:52,060 --> 04:35:53,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga manggagawa.

3867
04:35:53,800 --> 04:35:55,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

3868
04:35:55,600 --> 04:35:56,680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang binabanggit po nila

3869
04:35:56,680 --> 04:35:57,040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: disruptor.

3870
04:35:57,340 --> 04:35:58,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang mga manggagawa.

3871
04:35:58,380 --> 04:35:59,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nanggugulo daw

3872
04:35:59,340 --> 04:36:00,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang mga manggagawa,

3873
04:36:00,340 --> 04:36:01,340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker.

3874
04:36:02,180 --> 04:36:03,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: We are not disrupting anything.

3875
04:36:03,940 --> 04:36:04,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact,

3876
04:36:04,840 --> 04:36:05,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the Executive Director

3877
04:36:05,940 --> 04:36:06,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of National Wages

3878
04:36:06,840 --> 04:36:08,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Productivity Commission

3879
04:36:08,640 --> 04:36:09,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: denied

3880
04:36:09,840 --> 04:36:10,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to receive

3881
04:36:10,440 --> 04:36:11,240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: our letter,

3882
04:36:11,240 --> 04:36:13,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: our position paper.

3883
04:36:13,440 --> 04:36:14,500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At ang lakas ng loob

3884
04:36:14,500 --> 04:36:15,600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor

3885
04:36:15,600 --> 04:36:16,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment

3886
04:36:16,140 --> 04:36:17,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na sabihin,

3887
04:36:17,100 --> 04:36:17,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: may disruption

3888
04:36:17,940 --> 04:36:18,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kaya lumipat sila

3889
04:36:18,840 --> 04:36:20,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng meeting.

3890
04:36:20,140 --> 04:36:21,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Simple lang ang punto,

3891
04:36:21,380 --> 04:36:22,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker.

3892
04:36:23,040 --> 04:36:24,500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Itinatago ng Department

3893
04:36:24,500 --> 04:36:25,920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of Labor and Employment

3894
04:36:25,920 --> 04:36:27,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung pulong tungkol sa

3895
04:36:27,140 --> 04:36:28,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sahod ng mga manggagawa

3896
04:36:28,640 --> 04:36:29,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na sila-sila lang

3897
04:36:29,640 --> 04:36:30,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang nag-uusap.

3898
04:36:30,640 --> 04:36:31,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Last question,

3899
04:36:31,640 --> 04:36:32,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

3900
04:36:32,640 --> 04:36:34,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor.

3901
04:36:35,140 --> 04:36:36,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi sa Wage Order

3902
04:36:36,640 --> 04:36:38,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: number 28,

3903
04:36:39,640 --> 04:36:42,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Wage Order number 27

3904
04:36:42,140 --> 04:36:44,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: never took effect.

3905
04:36:45,140 --> 04:36:47,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In popular parlance,

3906
04:36:47,640 --> 04:36:49,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: panaginip

3907
04:36:49,140 --> 04:36:51,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o guni-guni lang daw

3908
04:36:51,140 --> 04:36:53,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang 85 pesos na dagdag-sahod.

3909
04:36:54,140 --> 04:36:55,140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Chapter 3,

3910
04:36:55,140 --> 04:36:56,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Section 4 of the IRR,

3911
04:36:56,980 --> 04:36:58,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Paro of R.I.6727,

3912
04:36:58,980 --> 04:36:59,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: any wage order

3913
04:36:59,980 --> 04:37:01,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: shall take effect

3914
04:37:01,480 --> 04:37:04,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 15 days after publication.

3915
04:37:04,480 --> 04:37:06,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: July 9, na-publish.

3916
04:37:06,480 --> 04:37:08,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: July 25, effective.

3917
04:37:08,480 --> 04:37:10,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At mismong si Sekretary Tolentino

3918
04:37:10,980 --> 04:37:12,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor and Employment

3919
04:37:12,480 --> 04:37:13,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang nag-announce

3920
04:37:13,980 --> 04:37:15,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng makasaysayan daw

3921
04:37:15,980 --> 04:37:17,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na wage increase.

3922
04:37:17,480 --> 04:37:18,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon,

3923
04:37:18,480 --> 04:37:19,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: isinusuko ba

3924
04:37:19,980 --> 04:37:21,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor and Employment

3925
04:37:21,980 --> 04:37:24,480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Wage Order No. 27

3926
04:37:24,480 --> 04:37:25,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at pinapalitan na ito

3927
04:37:25,980 --> 04:37:26,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Wage Order No.

3928
04:37:26,980 --> 04:37:27,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 28?

3929
04:37:28,980 --> 04:37:29,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

3930
04:37:29,980 --> 04:37:30,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguse Colleague,

3931
04:37:30,980 --> 04:37:33,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: napakaganda po ng iyong katanungan.

3932
04:37:33,980 --> 04:37:34,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Unang-una, kalinawan po,

3933
04:37:34,980 --> 04:37:39,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung Wage Order No. 27, alam naman po natin at alam din ng ating distinguished colleague na

3934
04:37:40,980 --> 04:37:43,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nagkaroon una ng TRO, pangalawa, nagkaroon ng injunction.

3935
04:37:43,980 --> 04:37:45,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ang tinatanong niyo po

3936
04:37:45,980 --> 04:37:47,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung dini-disregard na po namin ang Wage Order 28?

3937
04:37:47,980 --> 04:37:49,400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: The answer is no.

3938
04:37:49,400 --> 04:37:51,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo po, ginagalang

3939
04:37:51,980 --> 04:37:52,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng Department

3940
04:37:52,980 --> 04:37:53,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of Labor and Employment

3941
04:37:53,980 --> 04:37:54,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating legal proceedings,

3942
04:37:54,980 --> 04:37:55,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: which we abide by it.

3943
04:37:55,980 --> 04:38:02,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But our official stand, para alam po ng ating mga kababayan at ng ating 1.1 million na manggagawa sa Metro Manila,

3944
04:38:03,680 --> 04:38:10,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi po binibitawan ng Department of Labor and Employment ang Wage Order 27.

3945
04:38:10,340 --> 04:38:21,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In fact, ang ating sekretary pa mismo ang nag-file sa ating mga korte na kung saan ang tindig o opisyal na tindig ng ating Departamento

3946
04:38:21,720 --> 04:38:30,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: together with the Office of the Solicitor General na dapat ito ay legal kasi walang jurisdiction ang korte

3947
04:38:30,260 --> 04:38:36,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at dapat ito ay ipatupad ng ating mga korts at dapat sana ayaw makialam.

3948
04:38:36,620 --> 04:38:44,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So in fact, yung ating Wage Order 28 na 60 pesos, and ito po, importanteng-importante po ito, Madam Speaker. Bakit?

3949
04:38:45,480 --> 04:38:48,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung Wage Order 28, 60 pesos.

3950
04:38:49,320 --> 04:38:51,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Doon sa Wage Order 27,

3951
04:38:51,720 --> 04:38:52,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 85 pesos.

3952
04:38:53,260 --> 04:39:02,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero, nakakalimutan banggitin doon lagi na sa Wage Order 27, sa taong 2026, ay it's also 60 pesos.

3953
04:39:02,520 --> 04:39:05,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Patunay lamang, patapusin mo ako, Distinguished Colleague,

3954
04:39:05,640 --> 04:39:13,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sapagkat sa pagkakataong yun, makikita natin na ang Departamento ay nagtatrabaho. Bakit?

3955
04:39:14,640 --> 04:39:20,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Simpleng-simple lang naman, kung kami walang malasakit o hindi ginagampanan ang aming tungkulin,

3956
04:39:20,760 --> 04:39:21,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: [unclear] sana,

3957
04:39:21,720 --> 04:39:24,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pinabayaan na lang namin yung Wage Order 27.

3958
04:39:24,400 --> 04:39:24,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Subalit hindi.

3959
04:39:25,620 --> 04:39:28,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sa mandato na binigay ng Kongreso at Senado at ang taong bayan,

3960
04:39:29,360 --> 04:39:34,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating Wage Board, kumilos, nagpulong, nagpublic hearing,

3961
04:39:34,500 --> 04:39:42,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para sa gayo yung magkaroon ng economic relief o katumbas ng ating 60 pesos na dapat dagdag sa Wage Order number 27.

3962
04:39:42,960 --> 04:39:47,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So yung Wage Order number 28 is separate from Wage Order 27.

3963
04:39:49,260 --> 04:39:50,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, at least.

3964
04:39:51,080 --> 04:39:51,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you.

3965
04:39:51,720 --> 04:39:55,800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, this is of paramount importance.

3966
04:39:56,260 --> 04:40:02,160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At ito po ang pagkakataon, Madam Speaker, na maliwanagan ang milyong-milyong mga manggagawa.

3967
04:40:02,500 --> 04:40:07,120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So with the indulgence of our distinguished sponsor and Madam Speaker,

3968
04:40:08,180 --> 04:40:10,400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: just a few more questions, Madam Speaker.

3969
04:40:10,820 --> 04:40:11,920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Just one more question.

3970
04:40:12,160 --> 04:40:13,520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Clarification on that matter.

3971
04:40:14,500 --> 04:40:20,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Binabanggit po ng Department of Labor and Employment na hindi isinusuko ang Wage Order 27,

3972
04:40:20,020 --> 04:40:21,200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: but in effect,

3973
04:40:21,200 --> 04:40:22,040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sinusuko nila.

3974
04:40:22,800 --> 04:40:23,980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Malinaw ang sinasabi.

3975
04:40:24,360 --> 04:40:26,720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: If there is no bond, there is no injunction.

3976
04:40:27,140 --> 04:40:28,260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is the rules of court.

3977
04:40:29,380 --> 04:40:33,160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Walang legal impediment, sabi ng Office of the Secretary General,

3978
04:40:33,880 --> 04:40:36,020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para ipatupad ang Wage Order 27.

3979
04:40:36,580 --> 04:40:44,740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Binabanggit ng distinguished sponsor, ipatutupad ang Wage Order 28 bilang pamamaraan para ibigay sa mga manggagawa

3980
04:40:44,740 --> 04:40:49,460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung 60 pesos mula doon sa first tranche.

3981
04:40:49,460 --> 04:40:51,080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero hindi po yun ang punto.

3982
04:40:51,200 --> 04:40:57,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mula July 25, dahil walang hurisdiksyon ang Korte, kayo na po mismo ang nagsabi.

3983
04:40:57,800 --> 04:41:02,260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dapat matanggap na ng bawat isang minimum wage earner yung 60 pesos.

3984
04:41:02,680 --> 04:41:07,540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ibig sabihin, may kakulangan, may utang sa mga manggagawa na mahigit 3,000 piso.

3985
04:41:07,980 --> 04:41:10,860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ito po ang binabanggit natin, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

3986
04:41:11,640 --> 04:41:16,360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po maaaring isuplant ng Wage Order 28 yung Wage Order 27.

3987
04:41:16,360 --> 04:41:20,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So ang tanong dito, nilabag na nga ng DOLE.

3988
04:41:20,840 --> 04:41:24,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang sarili niyang guidelines na isang order lang ang ilalabas per year.

3989
04:41:25,780 --> 04:41:31,960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos sinasabi niya na gumawa siya ng pamamaraan para maibigay yung unang tranche, 60 pesos.

3990
04:41:32,580 --> 04:41:37,900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero kung susumahin natin, 60 pesos lang ang dagdag-saud sa Wage Order 28.

3991
04:41:38,360 --> 04:41:42,800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ibig sabihin po ba, maglalabas ang DOLE ng panibagong Wage Order

3992
04:41:42,800 --> 04:41:47,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para i-cover yung natitira mula doon sa Wage Order 27?

3993
04:41:47,840 --> 04:41:50,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mas pinapagulo ng DOLE.

3994
04:41:50,840 --> 04:41:54,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang kanyang buhay at ang kanyang sarili, pati ang mga manggagawa.

3995
04:41:55,360 --> 04:41:59,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Naiintindihan ko po ang binabanggit ng ating butihing sponsor, Madam Speaker.

3996
04:42:00,080 --> 04:42:01,640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sasabihin nila na pamamaraan.

3997
04:42:02,000 --> 04:42:07,100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero hindi po makuha ng mga manggagawa ang tindig ng Department of Labor and Employment

3998
04:42:07,100 --> 04:42:11,000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na hindi nito bibitawan at isusuko ang Wage Order 27

3999
04:42:11,000 --> 04:42:16,260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at ipapatupad nito ang Wage Order 27 na malinaw na nakasulat sa batas.

4000
04:42:16,720 --> 04:42:20,460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: DOLE na lang po ang hindi naniniwala na kaya niyang ipatupad.

4001
04:42:20,840 --> 04:42:22,660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang Wage Order, Madam Speaker.

4002
04:42:23,060 --> 04:42:25,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, I will end here.

4003
04:42:26,620 --> 04:42:32,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang aming paniniwala po, kung hindi kayang tindigan ng Department of Labor and Employment

4004
04:42:32,180 --> 04:42:34,940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa,

4005
04:42:34,940 --> 04:42:39,420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: it is in our firm position that the Department of Labor and Employment

4006
04:42:39,420 --> 04:42:43,320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: should not ask this August Chamber for any budget

4007
04:42:43,320 --> 04:42:47,040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil pinakikita at pinatutunayan lang nito sa mga manggagawa

4008
04:42:47,040 --> 04:42:50,820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na ang DOLE ay manhid, inutil at bingi.

4009
04:42:50,840 --> 04:42:53,120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa pakiramdam ng mga manggagawa.

4010
04:42:53,520 --> 04:42:56,160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Intindihin nyo kung saan nang gagaling ang mga manggagawa.

4011
04:42:56,560 --> 04:42:58,780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Para sa inyo, maliit na halaga lang ang 60 pesos.

4012
04:42:59,280 --> 04:43:01,880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero sa bawat isang minimum wage earner na naririnig,

4013
04:43:03,000 --> 04:43:07,840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang ating diskusyon ngayon, malaking bagay ang 3,000 pisong inagaw

4014
04:43:08,500 --> 04:43:11,000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at pinagkait sa mga minimum wage earner.

4015
04:43:11,340 --> 04:43:14,520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yun po ang pinatutungkulan ng representasyong ito.

4016
04:43:15,020 --> 04:43:16,700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And at the appropriate time,

4017
04:43:16,700 --> 04:43:20,560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: if the Department of Labor and Employment,

4018
04:43:20,840 --> 04:43:22,800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: will not change its position

4019
04:43:22,800 --> 04:43:28,680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at mananatili siya na matigas sa kanyang paninindigan

4020
04:43:28,680 --> 04:43:32,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na maglalabas ng bagong wage order sa halip na tindigan

4021
04:43:32,440 --> 04:43:33,720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang lumang wage order,

4022
04:43:34,200 --> 04:43:37,060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this representation will make that motion

4023
04:43:37,060 --> 04:43:38,900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at the appropriate time

4024
04:43:38,900 --> 04:43:43,580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na ilagak na lang natin ang pondo ng Department of Labor and Employment

4025
04:43:43,580 --> 04:43:45,680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: excluding TESDA.

4026
04:43:47,200 --> 04:43:50,380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ilagak na lang yan sa ibang mga functions

4027
04:43:50,380 --> 04:43:51,880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng ating gobyerno.

4028
04:43:52,360 --> 04:43:55,440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po napatunayan ng Department of Labor and Employment

4029
04:43:55,440 --> 04:43:58,620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na kaya niyang tindigan ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

4030
04:43:58,960 --> 04:44:02,200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, maraming salamat po sa inyong pagbigyan.

4031
04:44:02,200 --> 04:44:03,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

4032
04:44:03,940 --> 04:44:06,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pwede mo ba akong pagbigyan na sagutin yung huling statement mo?

4033
04:44:06,540 --> 04:44:08,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: For the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

4034
04:44:09,420 --> 04:44:12,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: alam po ninyo, kanina binanggit ko po

4035
04:44:12,180 --> 04:44:16,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ang posisyon ng Departamento o DOLE

4036
04:44:16,320 --> 04:44:20,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay we impose na tinitindigan po namin

4037
04:44:20,540 --> 04:44:22,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang wage order 27.

4038
04:44:22,840 --> 04:44:25,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Klaro po yun. It's on record na binanggit na po natin.

4039
04:44:25,760 --> 04:44:27,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And kahit tanongin mo po lahat dito,

4040
04:44:27,640 --> 04:44:29,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung po ay on record.

4041
04:44:29,760 --> 04:44:31,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya't hindi po namin pipwedeng tanggapin

4042
04:44:31,380 --> 04:44:35,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: with all due respect to my friend, Congressman Eli,

4043
04:44:36,300 --> 04:44:38,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sapagkat sabi ko nga rin kanina,

4044
04:44:38,980 --> 04:44:42,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung kami talaga ay walang malasakit sa ating mga manggagawa,

4045
04:44:43,060 --> 04:44:45,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: alisana kami po ay hindi na po kumilos.

4046
04:44:45,600 --> 04:44:46,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Subalit,

4047
04:44:46,120 --> 04:44:48,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga kanina sa pangungunan ng ating bagong sekretary,

4048
04:44:49,740 --> 04:44:52,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we respect the legal proceedings.

4049
04:44:52,800 --> 04:44:53,400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan, alam mo yan.

4050
04:44:54,800 --> 04:44:55,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo yan.

4051
04:44:56,260 --> 04:44:56,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nakumbakit.

4052
04:44:57,880 --> 04:44:59,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero pinaninindigan po namin

4053
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:05,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ang Wage Order 27, we cannot prejudge kung ano sasabihin ng ating hudikotura.

4054
04:45:06,520 --> 04:45:07,500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nire-respeto namin yan.

4055
04:45:07,680 --> 04:45:10,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero ang sabi namin nga noon ng Dolly at Office ng OSG,

4056
04:45:11,120 --> 04:45:15,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay dapat ito ay implemented ng July 2025 o 2026,

4057
04:45:15,840 --> 04:45:18,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na dapat hindi nakikialam ang Korte.

4058
04:45:18,600 --> 04:45:20,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At yan naman po, alam mo rin po yan,

4059
04:45:20,680 --> 04:45:24,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na klaro sa Article 126 ng Labor Code na yun ang ating sinasabi.

4060
04:45:25,180 --> 04:45:27,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya sabi ko nga, Madam Speaker, for clarification,

4061
04:45:27,060 --> 04:45:31,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa lahat na nakikinig ng ating mga gawa na 1.1 million sa NCR.

4062
04:45:32,600 --> 04:45:39,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Una, yung 60 pesos po ng Wage 27 at 28 ay identical.

4063
04:45:40,320 --> 04:45:42,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pag sinabi mong nabawasan, hindi po.

4064
04:45:42,920 --> 04:45:46,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I would like to quote you, my friend, Ellie, simple math.

4065
04:45:47,140 --> 04:45:50,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 60 minus 60 is the same value.

4066
04:45:52,300 --> 04:45:54,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon kung tatanungin mo, kanina,

4067
04:45:54,560 --> 04:45:57,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung magre-release na naman ng Wage,

4068
04:45:57,060 --> 04:46:00,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang Wage Order para ito ay sa susunod na mga hakbang.

4069
04:46:00,800 --> 04:46:02,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And I know na alam mo po yan,

4070
04:46:02,740 --> 04:46:04,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para klaro po sa ating nakikinig,

4071
04:46:04,820 --> 04:46:06,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi marami po yan at malaki po yan.

4072
04:46:07,340 --> 04:46:10,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung 60 pesos na po yun, pag minultiply mo sa 26 days,

4073
04:46:10,680 --> 04:46:12,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that's 1,560.

4074
04:46:13,240 --> 04:46:15,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, inaamin ng Dolly at ng Wage Board

4075
04:46:15,680 --> 04:46:21,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hindi lahat ng problema ay masusulusyonan doon sa 1,560.

4076
04:46:21,720 --> 04:46:22,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero malaking bagay ito.

4077
04:46:23,140 --> 04:46:25,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ito po, uulitin ko po, for the record,

4078
04:46:25,420 --> 04:46:26,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay tinitindigan.

4079
04:46:27,060 --> 04:46:30,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nang Departamento kasama ang OSG.

4080
04:46:31,260 --> 04:46:37,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sabi ko nga po, once that document from the Judiciary,

4081
04:46:37,780 --> 04:46:40,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: binanggit na lang ating mahal na Secretary Francis Torrentino,

4082
04:46:41,240 --> 04:46:43,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ipapatupad po natin ang mga Wage Orders

4083
04:46:43,780 --> 04:46:47,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ating pinanilindigan para sa ating mga manggagawa

4084
04:46:47,020 --> 04:46:50,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa NCR o sa buong Pilipinas sa mga darating na panahon.

4085
04:46:51,080 --> 04:46:52,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sana ay kahit pa paano,

4086
04:46:52,600 --> 04:46:56,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nasagot namin yung itanong Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

4087
04:46:57,060 --> 04:46:59,180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

4088
04:46:59,280 --> 04:47:03,320
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much, Congressman Eli San Fernando.

4089
04:47:03,460 --> 04:47:04,160
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader?

4090
04:47:05,380 --> 04:47:07,260
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

4091
04:47:07,260 --> 04:47:10,520
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: the Honorable Antonio Tinio of the ACT Teachers Party-list

4092
04:47:10,520 --> 04:47:12,620
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: to interpolate on the proposed budget.

4093
04:47:13,300 --> 04:47:15,960
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tinio is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

4094
04:47:17,720 --> 04:47:19,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker,

4095
04:47:20,820 --> 04:47:24,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Distinguished Sponsor at sa Department of Labor and Employment.

4096
04:47:24,220 --> 04:47:25,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilang mga katanungan po.

4097
04:47:26,400 --> 04:47:27,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, of course,

4098
04:47:27,060 --> 04:47:31,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: una, dahil ahensya po ito ng Department of Labor and Employment,

4099
04:47:31,360 --> 04:47:35,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course, ang tanong natin ay kaugnay sa sahod.

4100
04:47:37,160 --> 04:47:42,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At dapat meron po tayong graphic dyan.

4101
04:47:44,480 --> 04:47:45,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ayan, of course.

4102
04:47:46,640 --> 04:47:48,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, usapin ng minimum wage.

4103
04:47:48,800 --> 04:47:52,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam natin, ang umiiral na patakaran at batas at patakaran ngayon,

4104
04:47:52,980 --> 04:47:55,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regional, ang setting ng minimum wage.

4105
04:47:55,980 --> 04:47:59,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, dito, sinasummarize, galing sa IBO nito,

4106
04:48:00,060 --> 04:48:06,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinasummarize yung mga regional wage levels per region.

4107
04:48:08,680 --> 04:48:14,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, ang pinakamataas dyan ay sa NCR.

4108
04:48:18,280 --> 04:48:20,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, hindi nga updated yan.

4109
04:48:20,420 --> 04:48:22,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That particular graphic,

4110
04:48:23,360 --> 04:48:25,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga rates ngayon,

4111
04:48:25,980 --> 04:48:27,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: alam naman natin, for NCR,

4112
04:48:28,400 --> 04:48:29,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's already 755.

4113
04:48:31,720 --> 04:48:31,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

4114
04:48:37,940 --> 04:48:39,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinakamataas ang sa NCR

4115
04:48:39,820 --> 04:48:48,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at dito lumalabas na pinakabababa ang sa BARM.

4116
04:48:48,960 --> 04:48:53,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa BARM po, 436 pesos ang minimum wage.

4117
04:48:54,860 --> 04:48:54,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At,

4118
04:48:54,980 --> 04:48:55,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung,

4119
04:48:55,320 --> 04:48:56,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung i-a-average,

4120
04:48:57,300 --> 04:48:58,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, may range

4121
04:48:58,140 --> 04:49:02,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from 755 to 436,

4122
04:49:04,040 --> 04:49:06,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: average 514.

4123
04:49:06,260 --> 04:49:08,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero sa totoo lang, yung 514,

4124
04:49:08,320 --> 04:49:10,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mathematical, ano lang yan, no?

4125
04:49:11,420 --> 04:49:14,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Artifact, dahil wala namang region na ganyan ang minimum wage.

4126
04:49:15,020 --> 04:49:16,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero just to give you an idea,

4127
04:49:16,460 --> 04:49:20,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung range ng minimum wage sa

4128
04:49:20,900 --> 04:49:24,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba't-ibang lugar sa Pilipinas,

4129
04:49:24,580 --> 04:49:26,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil nga regionalized.

4130
04:49:26,580 --> 04:49:27,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4131
04:49:27,580 --> 04:49:28,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero,

4132
04:49:28,580 --> 04:49:31,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa totoo lang, hindi ganyang kasimple

4133
04:49:31,580 --> 04:49:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang totoong lagay

4134
04:49:34,580 --> 04:49:37,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng sahod sa buong bansa.

4135
04:49:37,580 --> 04:49:41,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam din yan ang mga kasamahan natin sa DOLE dahil

4136
04:49:41,580 --> 04:49:44,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung titignan natin ang bawat regyon,

4137
04:49:44,580 --> 04:49:50,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba-iba ang umiiral na patakaran at

4138
04:49:50,580 --> 04:49:53,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang task ng pagpapasweldo sa mga regyon.

4139
04:49:53,580 --> 04:49:58,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example, actually,

4140
04:49:58,580 --> 04:50:01,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba-iba pala.

4141
04:50:01,580 --> 04:50:07,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, mas ngayon ko lang talaga na naintindihan.

4142
04:50:07,580 --> 04:50:12,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung malawak na pagkakaiba ng mga sweldo,

4143
04:50:12,580 --> 04:50:15,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi lang sa pagitan ng iba't-ibang regyon,

4144
04:50:15,580 --> 04:50:17,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung hindi sa loob mismo ng isang regyon,

4145
04:50:17,580 --> 04:50:20,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwedeng nagkakaiba-iba po ito.

4146
04:50:20,580 --> 04:50:22,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, ayan, sa ating sponsor.

4147
04:50:22,580 --> 04:50:27,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa Region 3 pala, hindi pala totoo na meron lang isang

4148
04:50:27,580 --> 04:50:32,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regional minimum wage rate dahil regionalized ang wage setting.

4149
04:50:32,580 --> 04:50:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi pala totoo yun.

4150
04:50:34,580 --> 04:50:37,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil, for example, sa Central Luzon,

4151
04:50:37,580 --> 04:50:44,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh ang patakaran dyan ay

4152
04:50:44,580 --> 04:50:48,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Region 3,

4153
04:50:48,580 --> 04:50:50,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron pong sweldo,

4154
04:50:50,580 --> 04:50:55,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa buong regyon.

4155
04:50:55,580 --> 04:50:59,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, merong particular na sweldo

4156
04:50:59,580 --> 04:51:02,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa probinsya lang ng Aurora.

4157
04:51:02,580 --> 04:51:04,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun?

4158
04:51:04,580 --> 04:51:08,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa Region 3 po,

4159
04:51:08,580 --> 04:51:12,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos ang rate,

4160
04:51:12,580 --> 04:51:14,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero pagdating sa Aurora,

4161
04:51:14,580 --> 04:51:18,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay lumalabas na,

4162
04:51:18,580 --> 04:51:22,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baka ano ba ito?

4163
04:51:22,580 --> 04:51:29,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is it 515?

4164
04:51:29,580 --> 04:51:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me check.

4165
04:51:30,580 --> 04:51:31,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakakalito na rin po eh.

4166
04:51:31,580 --> 04:51:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O kasi iba-ibang nga.

4167
04:51:34,580 --> 04:51:36,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Can I answer that shortly?

4168
04:51:36,580 --> 04:51:37,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes.

4169
04:51:37,580 --> 04:51:39,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, actually in Aurora province,

4170
04:51:39,580 --> 04:51:44,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's 560.

4171
04:51:44,580 --> 04:51:46,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For agricultural,

4172
04:51:46,580 --> 04:51:47,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for non-agricultural,

4173
04:51:47,580 --> 04:51:53,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and 545 for agricultural.

4174
04:51:53,580 --> 04:51:59,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 515 naman for retail and services.

4175
04:51:59,580 --> 04:52:01,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantala,

4176
04:52:01,580 --> 04:52:03,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the rest of the region,

4177
04:52:03,580 --> 04:52:06,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's 600 pesos

4178
04:52:06,580 --> 04:52:08,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for non-agriculture,

4179
04:52:08,580 --> 04:52:12,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 570 for retail service,

4180
04:52:12,580 --> 04:52:15,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and,

4181
04:52:15,580 --> 04:52:17,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sorry, 590 pala

4182
04:52:17,580 --> 04:52:19,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for retail slash service,

4183
04:52:19,580 --> 04:52:24,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and 560 for non-agriculture.

4184
04:52:24,580 --> 04:52:25,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po.

4185
04:52:25,580 --> 04:52:27,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

4186
04:52:27,580 --> 04:52:29,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung buong regyon,

4187
04:52:29,580 --> 04:52:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Region 3,

4188
04:52:30,580 --> 04:52:31,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lahat ng mga probinsya,

4189
04:52:31,580 --> 04:52:32,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may isang rate,

4190
04:52:32,580 --> 04:52:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero nagkakaiba-iba

4191
04:52:34,580 --> 04:52:37,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: depende sa tawagin nating sektor.

4192
04:52:37,580 --> 04:52:38,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

4193
04:52:38,580 --> 04:52:41,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Agricultural, non-agricultural, retail service.

4194
04:52:41,580 --> 04:52:42,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay?

4195
04:52:42,580 --> 04:52:44,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Except for the province of Aurora.

4196
04:52:44,580 --> 04:52:45,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po.

4197
04:52:45,580 --> 04:52:46,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

4198
04:52:46,580 --> 04:52:47,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

4199
04:52:47,580 --> 04:52:48,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tama po.

4200
04:52:48,580 --> 04:52:49,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

4201
04:52:49,580 --> 04:52:51,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: can I just propound on that situation?

4202
04:52:51,580 --> 04:52:52,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Opo.

4203
04:52:52,580 --> 04:52:54,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Me being the representative

4204
04:52:54,580 --> 04:52:55,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of the Loan District of Aurora,

4205
04:52:55,580 --> 04:52:57,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that was my previous question

4206
04:52:57,580 --> 04:52:58,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to Dole,

4207
04:52:58,580 --> 04:52:59,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: per se.

4208
04:52:59,580 --> 04:53:01,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Well, the fact of the matter is,

4209
04:53:01,580 --> 04:53:02,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

4210
04:53:02,580 --> 04:53:03,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

4211
04:53:03,580 --> 04:53:05,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang history po kasi

4212
04:53:05,580 --> 04:53:06,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng lalawigan ng Aurora,

4213
04:53:06,580 --> 04:53:08,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tatalun-talun kami ng regyon.

4214
04:53:08,580 --> 04:53:09,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

4215
04:53:09,580 --> 04:53:10,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: unfortunately,

4216
04:53:10,580 --> 04:53:11,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as of this time,

4217
04:53:11,580 --> 04:53:12,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I don't know

4218
04:53:12,580 --> 04:53:13,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: if it's true or not,

4219
04:53:13,580 --> 04:53:15,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as of this time as we speak,

4220
04:53:15,580 --> 04:53:17,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi pa ganun karami yung enterprises

4221
04:53:17,580 --> 04:53:19,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that compromises

4222
04:53:19,580 --> 04:53:21,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa buong lalawigan ng Aurora.

4223
04:53:21,580 --> 04:53:22,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But, it doesn't stop there.

4224
04:53:22,580 --> 04:53:23,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ibig sabihin,

4225
04:53:23,580 --> 04:53:24,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we're making the necessary steps,

4226
04:53:24,580 --> 04:53:26,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o ginagawa natin,

4227
04:53:26,580 --> 04:53:27,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para maging aktibo

4228
04:53:27,580 --> 04:53:28,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung productivity

4229
04:53:28,580 --> 04:53:29,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at the same time

4230
04:53:29,580 --> 04:53:30,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ekonomiya ay lumago.

4231
04:53:30,580 --> 04:53:32,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That is my first basic question

4232
04:53:32,580 --> 04:53:33,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: also

4233
04:53:33,580 --> 04:53:34,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to the Department,

4234
04:53:34,580 --> 04:53:35,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi nga po,

4235
04:53:35,580 --> 04:53:37,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kailangan balansahin ng Dole

4236
04:53:37,580 --> 04:53:39,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung ano yung kinakailangan minimum wage

4237
04:53:39,580 --> 04:53:40,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa bawat

4238
04:53:40,580 --> 04:53:41,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: probinsya,

4239
04:53:41,580 --> 04:53:42,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa bawat regyon.

4240
04:53:42,580 --> 04:53:43,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And, in this case,

4241
04:53:43,580 --> 04:53:44,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa buong Region 3,

4242
04:53:44,580 --> 04:53:45,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tama ka po,

4243
04:53:45,580 --> 04:53:46,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

4244
04:53:46,580 --> 04:53:47,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

4245
04:53:47,580 --> 04:53:49,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na medyo mas mababa ng kaunti

4246
04:53:49,580 --> 04:53:51,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa aming lalawigan ng Aurora.

4247
04:53:51,580 --> 04:53:52,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Again, I would like to state

4248
04:53:52,580 --> 04:53:53,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the reason,

4249
04:53:53,580 --> 04:53:54,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: one,

4250
04:53:54,580 --> 04:53:55,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is because of the masyadong

4251
04:53:55,580 --> 04:53:56,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kaunti pa po yung enterprises

4252
04:53:56,580 --> 04:53:57,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa amin.

4253
04:53:57,580 --> 04:53:58,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Secondly,

4254
04:53:58,580 --> 04:54:00,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: minsan yung mga aming mga

4255
04:54:01,580 --> 04:54:02,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: industries

4256
04:54:02,580 --> 04:54:03,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that are in there,

4257
04:54:03,580 --> 04:54:04,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: like for example,

4258
04:54:04,580 --> 04:54:05,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is tourism,

4259
04:54:05,580 --> 04:54:06,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay medyo seasonal pa po

4260
04:54:06,580 --> 04:54:07,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung aming pasok

4261
04:54:07,580 --> 04:54:08,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng aming mga negosyo

4262
04:54:08,580 --> 04:54:09,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining to the whole province

4263
04:54:09,580 --> 04:54:10,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of Aurora.

4264
04:54:10,580 --> 04:54:11,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I hope that answers

4265
04:54:11,580 --> 04:54:12,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the question,

4266
04:54:12,580 --> 04:54:13,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

4267
04:54:13,580 --> 04:54:14,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague.

4268
04:54:14,580 --> 04:54:15,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4269
04:54:15,580 --> 04:54:16,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

4270
04:54:16,580 --> 04:54:17,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in other words,

4271
04:54:17,580 --> 04:54:18,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang natuklasan ko po

4272
04:54:18,580 --> 04:54:19,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nang sinurvey natin

4273
04:54:19,580 --> 04:54:20,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga

4274
04:54:20,580 --> 04:54:22,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regional minimum wage rate,

4275
04:54:22,580 --> 04:54:23,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi pala pare-pare,

4276
04:54:23,580 --> 04:54:24,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi lang iisa

4277
04:54:24,580 --> 04:54:25,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa isang region nga.

4278
04:54:25,580 --> 04:54:26,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course,

4279
04:54:26,580 --> 04:54:27,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: alam na natin yung

4280
04:54:27,580 --> 04:54:29,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agricultural versus

4281
04:54:29,580 --> 04:54:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: non-agricultural.

4282
04:54:30,580 --> 04:54:31,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O kaya,

4283
04:54:31,580 --> 04:54:32,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ibang region

4284
04:54:32,580 --> 04:54:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or sa maraming region,

4285
04:54:34,580 --> 04:54:35,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama rin yung

4286
04:54:35,580 --> 04:54:37,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: number of employees.

4287
04:54:37,580 --> 04:54:38,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagka 10 and below,

4288
04:54:38,580 --> 04:54:39,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may ibang rate.

4289
04:54:39,580 --> 04:54:40,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

4290
04:54:40,580 --> 04:54:41,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may ibang rate

4291
04:54:41,580 --> 04:54:42,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: above 10,

4292
04:54:42,580 --> 04:54:43,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas malaki.

4293
04:54:43,580 --> 04:54:44,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4294
04:54:44,580 --> 04:54:46,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mas mataas.

4295
04:54:46,580 --> 04:54:47,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa pang example po

4296
04:54:47,580 --> 04:54:48,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bukod sa region 3

4297
04:54:48,580 --> 04:54:51,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay yung region 7.

4298
04:54:51,580 --> 04:54:53,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa region 7 naman po,

4299
04:54:53,580 --> 04:54:54,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: again,

4300
04:54:54,580 --> 04:54:56,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi iisa ang pasweldo.

4301
04:54:56,580 --> 04:54:59,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lumikha ang region na ito

4302
04:54:59,580 --> 04:55:03,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng dalawang classification.

4303
04:55:03,580 --> 04:55:04,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron daw class A

4304
04:55:04,580 --> 04:55:05,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga bayan

4305
04:55:05,580 --> 04:55:07,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at merong class B.

4306
04:55:07,580 --> 04:55:08,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag class A,

4307
04:55:08,580 --> 04:55:09,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas mataas.

4308
04:55:09,580 --> 04:55:10,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag class B,

4309
04:55:10,580 --> 04:55:11,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas mababa.

4310
04:55:11,580 --> 04:55:12,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Class A,

4311
04:55:12,580 --> 04:55:13,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan yung

4312
04:55:13,580 --> 04:55:14,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga bayan

4313
04:55:14,580 --> 04:55:15,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng

4314
04:55:15,580 --> 04:55:16,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cities of

4315
04:55:16,580 --> 04:55:17,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Carcar,

4316
04:55:17,580 --> 04:55:18,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cebu,

4317
04:55:18,580 --> 04:55:19,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Danao,

4318
04:55:19,580 --> 04:55:20,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lapu-Lapu,

4319
04:55:20,580 --> 04:55:21,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mandaue,

4320
04:55:21,580 --> 04:55:22,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naga,

4321
04:55:22,580 --> 04:55:23,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and Talisay.

4322
04:55:23,580 --> 04:55:24,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As well as

4323
04:55:24,580 --> 04:55:25,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the municipalities

4324
04:55:25,580 --> 04:55:26,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Compostela,

4325
04:55:26,580 --> 04:55:27,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Consolacion,

4326
04:55:27,580 --> 04:55:28,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cordoba,

4327
04:55:28,580 --> 04:55:29,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Liloan,

4328
04:55:29,580 --> 04:55:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Minglanilla,

4329
04:55:30,580 --> 04:55:33,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and San Fernando.

4330
04:55:33,580 --> 04:55:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Together with

4331
04:55:34,580 --> 04:55:37,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: expanded Metro Cebu.

4332
04:55:37,580 --> 04:55:38,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

4333
04:55:38,580 --> 04:55:39,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagkasama ka dyan

4334
04:55:39,580 --> 04:55:41,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 540 a day

4335
04:55:41,580 --> 04:55:43,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang minimum wage.

4336
04:55:43,580 --> 04:55:44,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero,

4337
04:55:44,580 --> 04:55:46,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagka class B ka,

4338
04:55:46,580 --> 04:55:47,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meaning hindi ka kasama

4339
04:55:47,580 --> 04:55:49,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dun sa nabanggit nating listahan,

4340
04:55:49,580 --> 04:55:51,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 500 pesos lang po

4341
04:55:51,580 --> 04:55:53,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang

4342
04:55:53,580 --> 04:55:56,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: daily minimum wage.

4343
04:55:56,580 --> 04:55:57,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4344
04:55:57,580 --> 04:55:58,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun pa.

4345
04:55:58,580 --> 04:55:59,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pang isa dyan,

4346
04:55:59,580 --> 04:56:01,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung region na

4347
04:56:01,580 --> 04:56:02,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Mindanao naman,

4348
04:56:02,580 --> 04:56:04,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that's

4349
04:56:04,580 --> 04:56:07,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

4350
04:56:07,580 --> 04:56:09,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

4351
04:56:09,580 --> 04:56:10,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is it region,

4352
04:56:10,580 --> 04:56:11,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: asan to?

4353
04:56:17,580 --> 04:56:18,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Uh,

4354
04:56:18,580 --> 04:56:19,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: region,

4355
04:56:24,580 --> 04:56:25,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well,

4356
04:56:25,580 --> 04:56:27,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: region,

4357
04:56:27,580 --> 04:56:28,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron po sa Mindanao eh,

4358
04:56:28,580 --> 04:56:29,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ko lang po makita ngayon,

4359
04:56:29,580 --> 04:56:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pasensya na.

4360
04:56:30,580 --> 04:56:31,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4361
04:56:31,580 --> 04:56:32,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that's

4362
04:56:32,580 --> 04:56:33,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

4363
04:56:33,580 --> 04:56:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: region 3.

4364
04:56:34,580 --> 04:56:35,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Uh,

4365
04:56:35,580 --> 04:56:36,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then,

4366
04:56:36,580 --> 04:56:37,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

4367
04:56:37,580 --> 04:56:38,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: region 7.

4368
04:56:38,580 --> 04:56:39,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me go to the,

4369
04:56:39,580 --> 04:56:40,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

4370
04:56:40,580 --> 04:56:41,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: most,

4371
04:56:41,580 --> 04:56:44,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

4372
04:56:44,580 --> 04:56:45,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede nating sabihin,

4373
04:56:45,580 --> 04:56:46,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: most,

4374
04:56:46,580 --> 04:56:47,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

4375
04:56:47,580 --> 04:56:48,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: complex and most notorious

4376
04:56:48,580 --> 04:56:49,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: case.

4377
04:56:49,580 --> 04:56:50,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dito,

4378
04:56:50,580 --> 04:56:51,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Calabarzon.

4379
04:56:51,580 --> 04:56:53,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa Calabarzon po,

4380
04:56:53,580 --> 04:56:54,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay

4381
04:56:54,580 --> 04:56:55,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibat-ibang level po.

4382
04:56:55,580 --> 04:56:56,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually,

4383
04:56:56,580 --> 04:56:57,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ginamit nila,

4384
04:56:57,580 --> 04:56:58,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

4385
04:56:58,580 --> 04:56:59,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi, hindi lang regional

4386
04:56:59,580 --> 04:57:00,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang, ang

4387
04:57:00,580 --> 04:57:02,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wage levels.

4388
04:57:02,580 --> 04:57:04,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi rin provincial.

4389
04:57:04,580 --> 04:57:05,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

4390
04:57:05,580 --> 04:57:06,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May mga,

4391
04:57:06,580 --> 04:57:07,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

4392
04:57:07,580 --> 04:57:08,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

4393
04:57:08,580 --> 04:57:09,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: organization na manggagawa,

4394
04:57:09,580 --> 04:57:10,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabihin na,

4395
04:57:10,580 --> 04:57:11,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: abolish the provincial rate.

4396
04:57:11,580 --> 04:57:12,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa totoo lang,

4397
04:57:12,580 --> 04:57:13,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala naman po talagang

4398
04:57:13,580 --> 04:57:14,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: provincial rate,

4399
04:57:14,580 --> 04:57:15,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: except maybe for the

4400
04:57:15,580 --> 04:57:16,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: province of Aurora.

4401
04:57:16,580 --> 04:57:17,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4402
04:57:17,580 --> 04:57:18,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang meron,

4403
04:57:18,580 --> 04:57:20,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particular sa Calabarzon,

4404
04:57:20,580 --> 04:57:22,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: city and municipal rate.

4405
04:57:22,580 --> 04:57:23,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi lang yun,

4406
04:57:23,580 --> 04:57:24,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: city,

4407
04:57:24,580 --> 04:57:25,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipal,

4408
04:57:25,580 --> 04:57:27,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pati ecozone.

4409
04:57:27,580 --> 04:57:28,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ecozone,

4410
04:57:28,580 --> 04:57:29,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may sariling

4411
04:57:29,580 --> 04:57:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: minimum wage rate.

4412
04:57:30,580 --> 04:57:31,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po,

4413
04:57:31,580 --> 04:57:32,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

4414
04:57:32,580 --> 04:57:33,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

4415
04:57:33,580 --> 04:57:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: granular,

4416
04:57:34,580 --> 04:57:36,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: granular,

4417
04:57:36,580 --> 04:57:37,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung pag-set

4418
04:57:37,580 --> 04:57:38,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng regional,

4419
04:57:38,580 --> 04:57:40,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng minimum wage,

4420
04:57:40,580 --> 04:57:42,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng regional wage board.

4421
04:57:42,580 --> 04:57:43,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa kaso po

4422
04:57:43,580 --> 04:57:48,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Aurora,

4423
04:57:48,580 --> 04:57:49,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bukod dun sa mga

4424
04:57:49,580 --> 04:57:50,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sektor,

4425
04:57:50,580 --> 04:57:51,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agricultural,

4426
04:57:51,580 --> 04:57:52,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: non-agricultural,

4427
04:57:52,580 --> 04:57:53,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: retail,

4428
04:57:53,580 --> 04:57:54,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

4429
04:57:54,580 --> 04:57:56,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama rin yung

4430
04:57:56,580 --> 04:57:58,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: employer size,

4431
04:57:58,580 --> 04:57:59,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayan na nga, no?

4432
04:57:59,580 --> 04:58:00,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung whether 10 and above,

4433
04:58:00,580 --> 04:58:02,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10 and below,

4434
04:58:02,580 --> 04:58:03,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay meron pa pong,

4435
04:58:03,580 --> 04:58:07,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

4436
04:58:07,580 --> 04:58:11,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: extended metropolitan area.

4437
04:58:11,580 --> 04:58:12,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4438
04:58:12,580 --> 04:58:15,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

4439
04:58:15,580 --> 04:58:16,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: area class.

4440
04:58:16,580 --> 04:58:18,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There are six area classes.

4441
04:58:18,580 --> 04:58:22,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, this is the extended metropolitan area.

4442
04:58:22,580 --> 04:58:24,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ito yung mga malalaking siyudad.

4443
04:58:24,580 --> 04:58:27,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, component cities.

4444
04:58:27,580 --> 04:58:28,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan, meron,

4445
04:58:28,580 --> 04:58:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: another tier yan.

4446
04:58:30,580 --> 04:58:31,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4447
04:58:31,580 --> 04:58:32,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, there's,

4448
04:58:32,580 --> 04:58:33,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tier all,

4449
04:58:33,580 --> 04:58:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: all of its own,

4450
04:58:34,580 --> 04:58:36,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which is Rosario,

4451
04:58:36,580 --> 04:58:38,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Cavite.

4452
04:58:38,580 --> 04:58:39,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nag-iisa siya,

4453
04:58:39,580 --> 04:58:41,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na merong sariling rate.

4454
04:58:41,580 --> 04:58:43,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, yung first class municipalities,

4455
04:58:43,580 --> 04:58:45,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may sarili.

4456
04:58:45,580 --> 04:58:46,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pa tinatawag na

4457
04:58:46,580 --> 04:58:48,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reclassified first class

4458
04:58:48,580 --> 04:58:50,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalities

4459
04:58:50,580 --> 04:58:52,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: per DOF department order number

4460
04:58:52,580 --> 04:58:53,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: zero four,

4461
04:58:53,580 --> 04:58:56,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: zero seven four dash twenty twenty four

4462
04:58:56,580 --> 04:58:58,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: number twenty four.

4463
04:58:58,580 --> 04:59:00,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Very specific.

4464
04:59:00,580 --> 04:59:02,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, meron pang second,

4465
04:59:02,580 --> 04:59:05,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to fifth class municipalities.

4466
04:59:05,580 --> 04:59:07,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iba-iba po yan.

4467
04:59:07,580 --> 04:59:08,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, let us give

4468
04:59:08,580 --> 04:59:09,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a more concrete

4469
04:59:09,580 --> 04:59:11,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: example of this.

4470
04:59:11,580 --> 04:59:13,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

4471
04:59:13,580 --> 04:59:15,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example po,

4472
04:59:15,580 --> 04:59:18,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa probinsya ng,

4473
04:59:18,580 --> 04:59:19,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: let's say,

4474
04:59:19,580 --> 04:59:21,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Laguna.

4475
04:59:21,580 --> 04:59:22,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4476
04:59:22,580 --> 04:59:24,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa Laguna po,

4477
04:59:24,580 --> 04:59:25,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga pinaka,

4478
04:59:25,580 --> 04:59:28,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malaking mataas na sweldo,

4479
04:59:28,580 --> 04:59:29,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay,

4480
04:59:29,580 --> 04:59:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

4481
04:59:30,580 --> 04:59:32,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung extended metropolitan area.

4482
04:59:32,580 --> 04:59:34,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That would cover

4483
04:59:34,580 --> 04:59:35,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the

4484
04:59:35,580 --> 04:59:36,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cities of

4485
04:59:36,580 --> 04:59:37,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Binyan

4486
04:59:37,580 --> 04:59:39,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and San Pedro

4487
04:59:39,580 --> 04:59:40,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: plus

4488
04:59:40,580 --> 04:59:42,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Laguna Technopark.

4489
04:59:42,580 --> 04:59:44,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos.

4490
04:59:44,580 --> 04:59:46,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Component cities,

4491
04:59:46,580 --> 04:59:47,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos din.

4492
04:59:47,580 --> 04:59:48,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan ang mga bayan ng

4493
04:59:48,580 --> 04:59:49,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cabuyao,

4494
04:59:49,580 --> 04:59:50,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Calamba,

4495
04:59:50,580 --> 04:59:51,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Santa Rosa,

4496
04:59:51,580 --> 04:59:52,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: San Pablo.

4497
04:59:52,580 --> 04:59:53,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah,

4498
04:59:53,580 --> 04:59:54,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, yun po,

4499
04:59:54,580 --> 04:59:55,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos sila.

4500
04:59:55,580 --> 04:59:56,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag napunta ka naman sa

4501
04:59:56,580 --> 04:59:58,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: first class municipalities,

4502
04:59:58,580 --> 05:00:01,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 550 pesos.

4503
05:00:01,760 --> 05:00:04,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So kasama po dyan Los

4504
05:00:04,080 --> 05:00:06,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baños at Santa Cruz, Laguna.

4505
05:00:07,960 --> 05:00:10,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kalevel nito yung mga reclassified

4506
05:00:10,120 --> 05:00:12,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: first class municipalities, Alaminos,

4507
05:00:12,820 --> 05:00:15,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bayi, Calawan, Nagkarlan, Pila,

4508
05:00:16,060 --> 05:00:23,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siniloan. Tapos at 525 pesos second to

4509
05:00:23,360 --> 05:00:25,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fifth class municipalities. Ito yung

4510
05:00:25,140 --> 05:00:28,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinakamababa, Kabinti, Fami, Kalayaan,

4511
05:00:28,180 --> 05:00:30,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lili, Louisiana, Lumban, Mabitak,

4512
05:00:30,600 --> 05:00:33,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magdalena, Mahayhay, Paite, Pagsanhan,

4513
05:00:33,720 --> 05:00:36,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakil, Pangil, Rizal, Santa Maria,

4514
05:00:36,300 --> 05:00:37,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Victoria. Okay.

4515
05:00:41,640 --> 05:00:43,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pabasahin ko pa po, isa pa po. Just to

4516
05:00:43,940 --> 05:00:46,340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: illustrate, no? And to make a point.

4517
05:00:47,920 --> 05:00:50,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sa Rizal. Sa Rizal po, pinakamataas,

4518
05:00:50,960 --> 05:00:56,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos din, extended metropolitan area,

4519
05:00:56,260 --> 05:00:58,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga bayan ng kainta, antipol,

4520
05:00:58,180 --> 05:01:01,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Palo, Taytay. Tapos, first class

4521
05:01:01,220 --> 05:01:04,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalities and reclassified first

4522
05:01:04,040 --> 05:01:07,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: class municipalities, 550. So, 50 peso

4523
05:01:07,400 --> 05:01:12,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: difference. Ang ono, Binangonan, Pililya,

4524
05:01:12,860 --> 05:01:16,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Rodriguez, San Mateo, Tanay. Tapos,

4525
05:01:16,220 --> 05:01:20,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baras, Morong, at Teresa. Okay.

4526
05:01:20,280 --> 05:01:22,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantala, second to fifth class

4527
05:01:22,580 --> 05:01:27,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalities, Cardona at Halahala. Okay.

4528
05:01:27,160 --> 05:01:27,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. No?

4529
05:01:28,180 --> 05:01:30,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano ang punto po rito? Meron pang

4530
05:01:30,940 --> 05:01:38,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: extreme example. Sabi nga natin, sa Calabarzon,

4531
05:01:39,120 --> 05:01:43,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang wage level setting, hindi lang po regional

4532
05:01:43,580 --> 05:01:47,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: level, hindi city or municipality level lang,

4533
05:01:47,600 --> 05:01:51,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pati eco zone level. Meron. No? Kaya sa

4534
05:01:51,700 --> 05:01:57,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaso po ng bayan ng Malbar sa Batangas,

4535
05:01:58,180 --> 05:02:04,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: merong rate na 600 para sa eco zone sa Malbar.

4536
05:02:04,400 --> 05:02:08,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang lima. Yun ang pangalan. Okay?

4537
05:02:08,440 --> 05:02:14,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lima ba? Okay. Tapos, pag lumabas ka sa gate,

4538
05:02:14,640 --> 05:02:17,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasa bayan ka, nasa labas ka na ng eco zone,

4539
05:02:17,520 --> 05:02:23,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung bayan mismo ng Malbar, 550 lang po ang kanilang rate.

4540
05:02:23,060 --> 05:02:27,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, may 50 peso difference. No? Lumabas ka lang sa gate.

4541
05:02:27,800 --> 05:02:32,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nung eco zone. Okay? No? Kasi yung nabanggit ko kanina sa

4542
05:02:32,280 --> 05:02:35,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Rizal. I go back to Rizal kasi ito pamilyar ako. Madalas ako

4543
05:02:35,600 --> 05:02:39,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dumadaan sa mga bayan na yan eh. No? Along the Manila East

4544
05:02:39,020 --> 05:02:49,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Road. Mula Antipolo hanggang Teresa, Morong, Tanay,

4545
05:02:49,780 --> 05:02:53,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baras, Pililya. Okay. Magkakatabi lang po yung bayan na

4546
05:02:53,660 --> 05:02:57,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan. No? Tapos yung Cardona, sa Bandaron,

4547
05:02:57,800 --> 05:03:02,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? Magkakatabi lang yung bayan na yan. Pero, dahil sa

4548
05:03:02,120 --> 05:03:11,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: classification na ito, sa Antipolo, 600. Sa Morong o Teresa,

4549
05:03:11,960 --> 05:03:18,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 550. Pero sa Cardona, yung pinakamababa. 500, ka na ba

4550
05:03:18,020 --> 05:03:25,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun? 525. Okay? So, magkakatabi lang po yan. Sa ibang

4551
05:03:25,160 --> 05:03:26,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaso, pwede mo lang lakarin.

4552
05:03:27,800 --> 05:03:32,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay nasa kabilang bayan ka na. No? So, ano po ang

4553
05:03:32,280 --> 05:03:39,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: justification? Sa ganitong tipo ng wage setting. Samantala, ang

4554
05:03:39,620 --> 05:03:45,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presyo ng bigas, ang presyo ng gasolina, ang pamasahe, ang

4555
05:03:45,480 --> 05:03:52,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presyo ng kuryente, ang presyo ng edukasyon, pagpapaaral sa

4556
05:03:52,700 --> 05:03:57,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iyong mga anak, di naman nagbabago yan. Mula sa bayan,

4557
05:03:57,800 --> 05:04:03,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Cardona, at sa katabi nitong bayan ng Morong, hindi po

4558
05:04:03,260 --> 05:04:07,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagbabago. Pero magkaiba po, ang minimum wage rate. Anong

4559
05:04:07,760 --> 05:04:13,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahibangan na umabot na sa ganito ang pag set ng minimum wage

4560
05:04:13,280 --> 05:04:18,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lalong lano na extreme version sa kalabarson? Samantala, may

4561
05:04:18,540 --> 05:04:24,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga example po, ng regions, na isa lang talagang rate. In fact,

4562
05:04:24,700 --> 05:04:26,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, for example, CAR.

4563
05:04:27,300 --> 05:04:30,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa CAR po, Cordillera Administrative Region,

4564
05:04:31,020 --> 05:04:35,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tinanggal nila kahit na yung distinction between agricultural and non-agricultural.

4565
05:04:35,800 --> 05:04:37,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iisa na lang po ang rate niyan.

4566
05:04:38,980 --> 05:04:44,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, there are several regions na ganun.

4567
05:04:45,880 --> 05:04:54,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: CAR, Region 2, Region 4B, Region 4, Region 5, and Region 13.

4568
05:04:54,700 --> 05:04:57,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, isa lang po ang rate.

4569
05:04:59,600 --> 05:05:05,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yan po ang nais nating i-highlight dito.

4570
05:05:06,420 --> 05:05:11,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit ganyan ang wage setting at hindi ba pinapakita na nito

4571
05:05:11,460 --> 05:05:15,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na wala talagang loyka at walang saisay.

4572
05:05:16,680 --> 05:05:22,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At pinakapahirap sa manggagawa, sa mamamayang Pilipino,

4573
05:05:22,000 --> 05:05:24,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na depende kung nasan ka,

4574
05:05:24,700 --> 05:05:28,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay mas pababa ang sweldo kahit pareho naman.

4575
05:05:29,360 --> 05:05:36,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang measurable and objective na kaibahan sa cost of living.

4576
05:05:36,860 --> 05:05:38,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan po ang problema.

4577
05:05:39,100 --> 05:05:39,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba ganun?

4578
05:05:40,520 --> 05:05:48,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi ba panahon na para ma-abolish ang sistema nito ng regional wage setting?

4579
05:05:50,840 --> 05:05:54,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, I get your point.

4580
05:05:54,700 --> 05:06:01,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished colleague, na pag talon mo sa isang lugar na isang bayan ay iba na yung rate.

4581
05:06:02,300 --> 05:06:04,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And you gave perfect examples of those in which.

4582
05:06:06,480 --> 05:06:12,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But the thing is, the mandate which was given by Congress sa Department of Labor and Employment,

4583
05:06:13,300 --> 05:06:17,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay kami naman po ay sumusunod sa alituntunin sa pag-set ng minimum wage.

4584
05:06:17,900 --> 05:06:22,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, yung binigit niyo po kanina ay patungo dun sa we have to also take in consideration

4585
05:06:22,940 --> 05:06:24,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa dun sa ating income classes.

4586
05:06:24,700 --> 05:06:26,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng Department of Finance.

4587
05:06:26,740 --> 05:06:29,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And the most important one is yung productivity.

4588
05:06:30,240 --> 05:06:34,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Iba-iba po kasi yung kada bayan, kada reyon, kada probinsya.

4589
05:06:35,600 --> 05:06:39,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And patukol naman po dun sa huling statement po ninyo,

4590
05:06:40,260 --> 05:06:44,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung napapanahon na po ba pag-abolish dun sa mga different rates.

4591
05:06:45,400 --> 05:06:51,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Again, the official stand of Department of Labor and Employment patungo dun sa ating minimum wage setting

4592
05:06:51,940 --> 05:06:53,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: or the reach.

4593
05:06:54,700 --> 05:07:05,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: RA 6727 or Wage Rationalization Act ay we submit to the wisdom ng ating Kongreso at Senado.

4594
05:07:05,860 --> 05:07:11,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Once halimbawang nakapagpasa po ng isang bill or maging ganap na isang batas,

4595
05:07:11,980 --> 05:07:16,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the Department will fully implement kung sakasakaling ito ay maging isang ganap na batas,

4596
05:07:17,180 --> 05:07:18,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

4597
05:07:19,180 --> 05:07:20,600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, thank you, Madam Speaker.

4598
05:07:20,600 --> 05:07:24,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang dinidiin po natin talaga, yung patakalan na mismo,

4599
05:07:24,700 --> 05:07:30,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pinapakita natin dito na yung pinapatupad na patakalan ng DOLE ng kanilang mga regional wage board

4600
05:07:30,960 --> 05:07:42,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay, siyempre, alinsunod sa batas, pero pinapakita dito na yung batas ay hindi na naglilingkod sa interes ng mga manggagawang Pilipino.

4601
05:07:43,520 --> 05:07:47,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maaring pabor sa mga kapitalista. Of course, matutuwa sila.

4602
05:07:48,160 --> 05:07:52,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lumipad lang sila ng bayan. Mas mababa na ang kanilang pasweldo.

4603
05:07:52,440 --> 05:07:54,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero para sa mga mamayang nandun,

4604
05:07:54,700 --> 05:08:00,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala namang pinag-iba ang presyo ng bigas ng pagkain sa kabilang bayan.

4605
05:08:00,700 --> 05:08:08,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, again, dinidiin natin panahon na para i-abolish ito at ibalik yung national minimum wage.

4606
05:08:08,700 --> 05:08:15,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marami pa sana akong datos dyan, kaya lang, pinitingnan ko ang oras, pupunta na ako sa susunod na topic natin.

4607
05:08:15,700 --> 05:08:22,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang punto natin dito, kapos na kapos na po, at hindi na naglilingkod sa interes at kapakanan ng manggagawa,

4608
05:08:22,700 --> 05:08:23,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang patakarang pinatutupad na ito.

4609
05:08:24,700 --> 05:08:29,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang dole, kaugnay sa regionalized, at hindi nga lang regionalized, no,

4610
05:08:29,700 --> 05:08:36,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalized, localized wage setting. Extreme case being Calabarzon.

4611
05:08:36,700 --> 05:08:42,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, kailangang ibalik ang national minimum wage.

4612
05:08:42,700 --> 05:08:47,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ngayon, punta tayo sa usapin ng tupad.

4613
05:08:47,700 --> 05:08:53,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan, nabuksan ni, ng naunang interpellator natin, si Representative Eli San Fernando.

4614
05:08:54,700 --> 05:09:04,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi katakataka, dahil nga, kung titignan mo ang budget ng dole, ang pinakamalaking component talaga nito ay tupad.

4615
05:09:04,700 --> 05:09:15,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pinring up ko na po ito nung budget briefing, but let me revisit the data in plenary.

4616
05:09:15,700 --> 05:09:20,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kung pwede po, maipakita yung ating presentation.

4617
05:09:20,700 --> 05:09:22,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ayan nga, tinrack nga natin.

4618
05:09:22,700 --> 05:09:27,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 10 years ng tupad, no, at 2016 yan.

4619
05:09:27,700 --> 05:09:39,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nung 2016, ang level po ng tupad ay nasa, nasa, tupad.

4620
05:09:39,700 --> 05:09:44,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Three, hindi makita.

4621
05:09:44,700 --> 05:09:50,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Is that three?

4622
05:09:50,700 --> 05:09:54,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Is that three?

4623
05:09:54,700 --> 05:09:56,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 3.2 billion.

4624
05:09:56,700 --> 05:09:58,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 3.2 billion pesos po.

4625
05:09:58,700 --> 05:10:00,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That was 2016.

4626
05:10:00,700 --> 05:10:11,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, 2024, 3.2 billion naging 29.5 billion.

4627
05:10:11,700 --> 05:10:16,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? So, ilang beses na lumaki ito.

4628
05:10:16,700 --> 05:10:18,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Uhm.

4629
05:10:18,700 --> 05:10:25,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: More than, almost 10 times, no, ang paglaki.

4630
05:10:25,700 --> 05:10:29,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan yung pinakamalaking allocation ng tupad.

4631
05:10:29,700 --> 05:10:36,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It consists, at that time, it consisted of almost 82% of the total dole budget.

4632
05:10:36,700 --> 05:10:47,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For 2026, sa kasalukuyang taon, 75% ng budget ng dole, 22 billion pesos ay nasa tupad.

4633
05:10:47,700 --> 05:11:01,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa proposed budget nyo, proposed budget nyo 2027, ayan po, 2027 ay, ah, magkano ang hinihingi?

4634
05:11:01,700 --> 05:11:06,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 14.2 billion o 68% of total.

4635
05:11:06,700 --> 05:11:08,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po ang nasa NEP.

4636
05:11:08,700 --> 05:11:14,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero natatandaan ko rin po sa budget briefing, and maybe it can be stated here on the record,

4637
05:11:14,700 --> 05:11:16,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: humihingi pa po ng dagdad na tupad.

4638
05:11:16,700 --> 05:11:18,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang dole.

4639
05:11:18,700 --> 05:11:28,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po bang ma, ah, banggit for the record kung magkano yung hinihingi ng dole na dagdag sa tupad?

4640
05:11:28,700 --> 05:11:36,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ah, on record, ah, Madam Speaker Distinguished Colleague, tama po yung sinabi nyo doon sa record na 14.1 billion.

4641
05:11:36,700 --> 05:11:43,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But for clarity, yung out of that is 3 billion is, ah, GIP, which is the Government Internship Program.

4642
05:11:43,700 --> 05:11:44,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Okay.

4643
05:11:44,700 --> 05:11:51,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So kung sa inyong tinatanong na kung magkano yung, ah, hinihingi, I mentioned that earlier doon sa ating opening statement,

4644
05:11:51,700 --> 05:11:57,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung saan doon sa nakaraang ah, budget ah, hearing sa committee level, I, I think it was 10.1 billion.

4645
05:11:59,700 --> 05:12:00,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 10.

4646
05:12:01,700 --> 05:12:02,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 10.25 billion.

4647
05:12:02,700 --> 05:12:03,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10.4.

4648
05:12:04,700 --> 05:12:05,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10.25.

4649
05:12:05,700 --> 05:12:06,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Okay, so.

4650
05:12:06,700 --> 05:12:07,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10.25.

4651
05:12:07,700 --> 05:12:13,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 14 billion ang nasa NEP, pero gusto niyo po po dagdaga ng mahigit 10 billion.

4652
05:12:13,700 --> 05:12:18,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, gusto niyong gawing 24.8 billion, no?

4653
05:12:18,700 --> 05:12:23,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, halos doblehin yung kasulukuyang hinihingi ng pondo.

4654
05:12:23,700 --> 05:12:26,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ah, yun na nga.

4655
05:12:26,700 --> 05:12:37,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, dinidiinan na natin dito at kinikwestiyon na natin, bakit ang pinakamalaking bahagi ng budget ng dole ay tupad?

4656
05:12:37,700 --> 05:12:38,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

4657
05:12:38,700 --> 05:12:41,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ironically, ah.

4658
05:12:41,700 --> 05:12:45,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, yun nga sabi natin, ano na ba ang dole ngayon?

4659
05:12:46,700 --> 05:12:48,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba ang pangunahing mandato ng dole?

4660
05:12:48,700 --> 05:12:51,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, labor and employment?

4661
05:12:52,700 --> 05:12:57,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagprotekta sa karapatan at kagalingan ng manggagawa?

4662
05:12:57,700 --> 05:13:01,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O ayuda agency na ba ang dole ngayon?

4663
05:13:01,700 --> 05:13:05,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi kung pagbabatayan natin ang budget, ayuda agency na.

4664
05:13:05,700 --> 05:13:06,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

4665
05:13:06,700 --> 05:13:07,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At,

4666
05:13:07,700 --> 05:13:09,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon pa,

4667
05:13:09,700 --> 05:13:10,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi na nagkasya,

4668
05:13:10,700 --> 05:13:18,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dun sa 14 billion na hinihingi para sa tupad, gusto pang dagdagan ng 10 billion.

4669
05:13:18,700 --> 05:13:19,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

4670
05:13:19,700 --> 05:13:22,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, so,

4671
05:13:22,700 --> 05:13:28,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paninindigan pa rin ba ng dole ang hinihingi pa nilang dagdag na 10 billion?

4672
05:13:28,700 --> 05:13:29,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantala,

4673
05:13:29,700 --> 05:13:33,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: katulad yan ang nasabi, napakaraming mga pangangailangan.

4674
05:13:33,700 --> 05:13:35,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung nabanggit na,

4675
05:13:35,700 --> 05:13:39,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dagdag na labor inspectors, new plantilla positions,

4676
05:13:39,700 --> 05:13:41,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for labor inspectors.

4677
05:13:42,700 --> 05:13:43,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit hindi?

4678
05:13:43,700 --> 05:13:52,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilang bagong labor inspectors ang pwedeng madagdagan dun sa 10 billion na hinihingi ninyo?

4679
05:13:52,700 --> 05:13:53,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba?

4680
05:13:53,700 --> 05:14:05,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, paninindigan pa po ba na dagdagan pa sa halip na bawasan ang hinihingi tupad ng dole for 2027?

4681
05:14:06,700 --> 05:14:08,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

4682
05:14:09,700 --> 05:14:11,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: one for the record,

4683
05:14:11,700 --> 05:14:14,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pagsilabing po po kasing ayuda is dole out.

4684
05:14:14,700 --> 05:14:19,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ang tupad together with GIP and other the programs of dole.

4685
05:14:19,700 --> 05:14:22,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung tupad naman po ay pinagtatrabahuhan.

4686
05:14:22,700 --> 05:14:27,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And if you will allow me, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

4687
05:14:27,700 --> 05:14:32,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nagkaroon lang kasi because of the pandemic, yung parang stigma doon sa ating tupad.

4688
05:14:32,700 --> 05:14:37,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero I'll give you a prime example na isa lamang.

4689
05:14:37,700 --> 05:14:38,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'll give you an example.

4690
05:14:39,700 --> 05:14:43,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In Caloocan, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

4691
05:14:43,700 --> 05:14:50,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and this is very malapit sa akin to because gustong gusto ko rin gawin ito sa aking distrito.

4692
05:14:50,700 --> 05:14:51,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Bakit?

4693
05:14:51,700 --> 05:14:57,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung kanyang under ng tupad, alam naman po natin doon sa reports na na-receive natin sa EDCOM,

4694
05:14:57,700 --> 05:14:59,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na maraming estudyante...

4695
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:02,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: from kinder to grade 10

4696
05:15:02,560 --> 05:15:04,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang medyo nahuhuli

4697
05:15:04,120 --> 05:15:05,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pagdating sa pagbasa

4698
05:15:05,920 --> 05:15:08,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at ang ating resulta

4699
05:15:08,040 --> 05:15:10,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay nahihiyan na po silang pumasok

4700
05:15:10,120 --> 05:15:11,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa kanilang mga eskwelahan.

4701
05:15:12,640 --> 05:15:13,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ano po ang ginawa ng ating

4702
05:15:13,800 --> 05:15:17,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Department of Labor Employment

4703
05:15:17,560 --> 05:15:18,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa Kaloocan?

4704
05:15:19,400 --> 05:15:20,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Simpleng-simple lamang.

4705
05:15:21,240 --> 05:15:21,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One,

4706
05:15:22,380 --> 05:15:24,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nag-hire po ang departamento

4707
05:15:24,080 --> 05:15:26,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng mga college graduates

4708
05:15:26,960 --> 05:15:28,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: or let passers

4709
05:15:28,840 --> 05:15:29,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hindi pa ganap

4710
05:15:29,900 --> 05:15:31,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hired, na teachers

4711
05:15:31,780 --> 05:15:34,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na magtuturo, na magbasa

4712
05:15:34,520 --> 05:15:37,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating mga kabataan.

4713
05:15:37,860 --> 05:15:38,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: They were employed

4714
05:15:38,740 --> 05:15:40,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ating isandaang

4715
05:15:40,840 --> 05:15:42,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nagtuturo

4716
05:15:42,540 --> 05:15:43,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating mga estudyante

4717
05:15:43,980 --> 05:15:46,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa Kaloocan na kung saan

4718
05:15:46,180 --> 05:15:48,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: staggered po 10 days

4719
05:15:48,660 --> 05:15:50,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi ang normal

4720
05:15:50,160 --> 05:15:52,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and standard na

4721
05:15:52,020 --> 05:15:54,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: implementation ng tupad.

4722
05:15:55,020 --> 05:15:56,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Doon sa programang ating binabanggit po

4723
05:15:56,780 --> 05:15:58,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito ay ginawang

4724
05:15:58,120 --> 05:15:59,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 30 days na allowable

4725
05:15:59,880 --> 05:16:01,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: lamang po sa mga ibang programa.

4726
05:16:01,780 --> 05:16:03,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In short, Madam Speaker,

4727
05:16:04,140 --> 05:16:05,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

4728
05:16:06,120 --> 05:16:08,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ginagawa po ng tupad

4729
05:16:08,060 --> 05:16:09,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na stigma noon ay ibang-iba

4730
05:16:09,840 --> 05:16:12,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: noon at ngayon.

4731
05:16:12,780 --> 05:16:13,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kasi po, hindi lamang ito

4732
05:16:13,920 --> 05:16:16,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: magagamit sa ating mga

4733
05:16:16,060 --> 05:16:17,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: streets, but bagkos

4734
05:16:17,280 --> 05:16:20,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay matuturuan na matuto pa

4735
05:16:20,200 --> 05:16:22,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating mga estudyante

4736
05:16:22,380 --> 05:16:23,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: lalong-lalong na

4737
05:16:23,760 --> 05:16:25,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating growing years

4738
05:16:25,280 --> 05:16:26,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng mga ating bata.

4739
05:16:26,800 --> 05:16:29,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And you can double check that,

4740
05:16:29,880 --> 05:16:30,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker and

4741
05:16:30,800 --> 05:16:32,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

4742
05:16:32,820 --> 05:16:33,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na sabi ko nga po,

4743
05:16:34,580 --> 05:16:35,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa mga darating pampanahon

4744
05:16:35,780 --> 05:16:37,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: magkakaroon through the leadership

4745
05:16:37,700 --> 05:16:39,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of Secretary Francis Tolentino,

4746
05:16:39,340 --> 05:16:40,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga po,

4747
05:16:40,400 --> 05:16:41,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: noon, last year,

4748
05:16:42,080 --> 05:16:42,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ginawa ko rin po,

4749
05:16:43,100 --> 05:16:43,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga,

4750
05:16:44,220 --> 05:16:45,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung paglinis o pagko-coordination

4751
05:16:45,840 --> 05:16:47,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa local government unit

4752
05:16:47,040 --> 05:16:48,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: patungo sa MRF.

4753
05:16:48,700 --> 05:16:49,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan lang po ay isang

4754
05:16:49,380 --> 05:16:50,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ehemplo.

4755
05:16:54,740 --> 05:16:55,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

4756
05:16:56,520 --> 05:16:57,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'm sorry.

4757
05:16:57,260 --> 05:16:59,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I was interrupted, Madam.

4758
05:16:59,880 --> 05:17:00,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

4759
05:17:00,860 --> 05:17:01,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero to wrap it up,

4760
05:17:03,980 --> 05:17:04,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang dahilan po

4761
05:17:04,780 --> 05:17:06,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na pag

4762
05:17:06,360 --> 05:17:08,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ask

4763
05:17:08,840 --> 05:17:11,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng karagdagang pondo

4764
05:17:11,540 --> 05:17:13,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is not for

4765
05:17:13,800 --> 05:17:15,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tupad, na basic

4766
05:17:15,700 --> 05:17:17,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tupad only.

4767
05:17:17,960 --> 05:17:18,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sabi ko nga po,

4768
05:17:19,500 --> 05:17:21,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito ay pinalawak na po natin over time

4769
05:17:21,800 --> 05:17:23,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na sa palagay ko, sa aking palagay,

4770
05:17:24,140 --> 05:17:25,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay hindi lamang makakatulong

4771
05:17:25,840 --> 05:17:27,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa ating ine-empleyo

4772
05:17:27,900 --> 05:17:29,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na magkakaroon ng sweldo, income,

4773
05:17:29,880 --> 05:17:30,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating mga,

4774
05:17:31,160 --> 05:17:32,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: in that, ginawa ko pong example,

4775
05:17:32,800 --> 05:17:33,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating mga tutors,

4776
05:17:33,560 --> 05:17:34,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at that same time,

4777
05:17:35,120 --> 05:17:37,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay nagkaroon pa ng magandang benepisyo

4778
05:17:37,420 --> 05:17:39,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa ating mga estudyanting

4779
05:17:39,740 --> 05:17:40,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na turuan po niya.

4780
05:17:41,060 --> 05:17:43,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ito lang po ay nagpapatunay lamang,

4781
05:17:43,300 --> 05:17:45,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito lang po ay sa isang city,

4782
05:17:46,100 --> 05:17:46,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at that same time,

4783
05:17:46,920 --> 05:17:47,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pwede rin pong implement

4784
05:17:47,800 --> 05:17:49,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa mga bawat distrito

4785
05:17:49,220 --> 05:17:50,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o sa bawat regyon

4786
05:17:50,340 --> 05:17:51,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating bansang Pilipinas.

4787
05:17:51,860 --> 05:17:53,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's all, Madam Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

4788
05:17:54,880 --> 05:17:55,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well,

4789
05:17:56,560 --> 05:17:58,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maganda lang po

4790
05:17:58,880 --> 05:17:59,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ating mga tutors,

4791
05:17:59,880 --> 05:18:01,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at this point, dahil pinag-uusapan natin

4792
05:18:01,540 --> 05:18:03,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng TUPAD, mabalikan po natin ang kasaysayan.

4793
05:18:04,260 --> 05:18:05,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kailan po ba nagsimula

4794
05:18:05,580 --> 05:18:07,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung programang TUPAD?

4795
05:18:08,000 --> 05:18:09,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nababanggit ng sponsor,

4796
05:18:09,500 --> 05:18:12,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagsimula ito noong panahon ng pandemic.

4797
05:18:12,420 --> 05:18:13,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, hindi po totoo.

4798
05:18:14,540 --> 05:18:15,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At bahagi po ako ng

4799
05:18:15,760 --> 05:18:17,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kongreso, at nasaksihan ko

4800
05:18:17,660 --> 05:18:19,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung kailan nilikha

4801
05:18:19,680 --> 05:18:21,340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung programang TUPAD.

4802
05:18:22,560 --> 05:18:23,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kailan po?

4803
05:18:24,900 --> 05:18:25,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una pong makikita

4804
05:18:25,920 --> 05:18:27,340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: natin ang TUPAD

4805
05:18:27,340 --> 05:18:29,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa general

4806
05:18:29,880 --> 05:18:30,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Appropriations Act

4807
05:18:30,920 --> 05:18:33,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 2014.

4808
05:18:35,260 --> 05:18:36,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2014 po.

4809
05:18:37,180 --> 05:18:37,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay?

4810
05:18:38,680 --> 05:18:39,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung balikan nyo

4811
05:18:39,880 --> 05:18:42,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung General Appropriations Act

4812
05:18:42,480 --> 05:18:44,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 2013,

4813
05:18:45,940 --> 05:18:46,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pa pong TUPAD.

4814
05:18:47,440 --> 05:18:47,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa po.

4815
05:18:48,280 --> 05:18:50,340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tignan nyo yung, I mean, hindi ko na

4816
05:18:50,340 --> 05:18:52,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mapaflash, ganyan ko lang binuksan muli ito.

4817
05:18:53,460 --> 05:18:54,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero tignan nyo po

4818
05:18:54,260 --> 05:18:55,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa special provisions

4819
05:18:55,720 --> 05:18:59,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Department of Labor and Employment,

4820
05:18:59,280 --> 05:18:59,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dun po,

4821
05:18:59,880 --> 05:19:01,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinapangalanan

4822
05:19:01,160 --> 05:19:03,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga programa, no?

4823
05:19:03,860 --> 05:19:05,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special provision number one,

4824
05:19:05,460 --> 05:19:08,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: verification fees. Special provision number two,

4825
05:19:09,080 --> 05:19:10,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: appropriations for programs

4826
05:19:10,660 --> 05:19:11,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and specific activities.

4827
05:19:12,100 --> 05:19:14,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos binabanggit na yung mga programa,

4828
05:19:14,480 --> 05:19:15,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: walang TUPAD.

4829
05:19:15,440 --> 05:19:16,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2013 po.

4830
05:19:17,320 --> 05:19:18,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2014,

4831
05:19:19,540 --> 05:19:21,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: General Appropriations Act,

4832
05:19:22,540 --> 05:19:23,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eto na po.

4833
05:19:23,860 --> 05:19:25,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special provision number one,

4834
05:19:25,300 --> 05:19:27,620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: verification fees, and number two,

4835
05:19:28,140 --> 05:19:29,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government internship program,

4836
05:19:29,420 --> 05:19:30,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama kayo magkaugnayon,

4837
05:19:30,960 --> 05:19:32,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government internship program,

4838
05:19:33,000 --> 05:19:35,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and tulong panghanap buhay

4839
05:19:35,140 --> 05:19:37,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ating disadvantaged workers

4840
05:19:37,740 --> 05:19:39,260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: TUPAD project.

4841
05:19:39,780 --> 05:19:41,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan po ang unang-unang pagkakataon

4842
05:19:41,440 --> 05:19:43,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na lumitaw sa budget.

4843
05:19:44,580 --> 05:19:45,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The amount

4844
05:19:45,120 --> 05:19:48,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of 1,022,000,000 pesos

4845
05:19:48,060 --> 05:19:50,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: appropriated herein

4846
05:19:50,120 --> 05:19:51,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under conduct of

4847
05:19:51,580 --> 05:19:53,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: training, livelihood, and enterprise

4848
05:19:53,160 --> 05:19:55,000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: development and other capacity

4849
05:19:55,000 --> 05:19:57,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: building programs for

4850
05:19:57,200 --> 05:19:59,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: students, youths, and

4851
05:19:59,200 --> 05:20:01,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: disabled workers, and for

4852
05:20:01,320 --> 05:20:03,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the rural workers, including

4853
05:20:03,160 --> 05:20:05,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: programs for self-organization

4854
05:20:05,460 --> 05:20:07,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for plantation workers,

4855
05:20:07,680 --> 05:20:09,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall be used as follows.

4856
05:20:09,960 --> 05:20:11,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Number one, for the

4857
05:20:11,540 --> 05:20:13,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: payment of stipend of beneficiaries

4858
05:20:13,520 --> 05:20:16,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equivalent to—

4859
05:20:16,900 --> 05:20:19,160
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Tinio, that his time has expired.

4860
05:20:19,160 --> 05:20:25,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, tatapusin na lang po natin. For the payment of stipend of beneficiaries equivalent to 75%

4861
05:20:25,480 --> 05:20:27,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the existing minimum wage

4862
05:20:27,160 --> 05:20:29,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the area during the

4863
05:20:29,180 --> 05:20:31,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: six-month office field training

4864
05:20:31,180 --> 05:20:32,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the government under the GIP.

4865
05:20:33,520 --> 05:20:35,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, six-month stipend po

4866
05:20:35,100 --> 05:20:36,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa GIP.

4867
05:20:37,260 --> 05:20:39,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung number two, for the payment

4868
05:20:39,280 --> 05:20:41,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of wages of displaced workers

4869
05:20:41,540 --> 05:20:43,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: resulting from weather

4870
05:20:43,380 --> 05:20:45,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and regulatory

4871
05:20:45,160 --> 05:20:45,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shocks,

4872
05:20:47,220 --> 05:20:49,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: weather, kalamidad, regulatory

4873
05:20:49,320 --> 05:20:50,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shocks, layoff,

4874
05:20:51,780 --> 05:20:53,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no, because of

4875
05:20:53,460 --> 05:20:55,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: neoliberal economic

4876
05:20:55,160 --> 05:20:57,080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: policies, and

4877
05:20:57,080 --> 05:20:59,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: internal conflict. So, sinama po, pati

4878
05:20:59,180 --> 05:21:00,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: internal conflict

4879
05:21:00,180 --> 05:21:03,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: during their short-term employment

4880
05:21:03,320 --> 05:21:05,220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the TUPAD project.

4881
05:21:06,260 --> 05:21:07,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, yun po

4882
05:21:07,520 --> 05:21:09,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang una. At binigyan po ng

4883
05:21:09,180 --> 05:21:11,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget ng 1.022 billion.

4884
05:21:12,240 --> 05:21:13,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And from then on,

4885
05:21:14,100 --> 05:21:15,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from then on, lumaki

4886
05:21:15,420 --> 05:21:17,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng lumaki, at yun na nga,

4887
05:21:17,800 --> 05:21:18,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinabi natin,

4888
05:21:19,140 --> 05:21:21,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2016, 600

4889
05:21:21,440 --> 05:21:22,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: billion,

4890
05:21:23,080 --> 05:21:23,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 20,

4891
05:21:24,820 --> 05:21:27,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 20,

4892
05:21:27,480 --> 05:21:27,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 20,

4893
05:21:29,180 --> 05:21:30,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, this year, it's something like

4894
05:21:30,520 --> 05:21:32,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 24 billion. Ganon, ano?

4895
05:21:33,360 --> 05:21:35,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, lumobo nang lumobo na ito.

4896
05:21:35,840 --> 05:21:36,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Bakit po

4897
05:21:36,820 --> 05:21:38,960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2014? Ilan po ang gusto

4898
05:21:38,960 --> 05:21:40,420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nating ma-put on the record?

4899
05:21:41,180 --> 05:21:43,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Why 2014? The budget

4900
05:21:43,140 --> 05:21:45,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 2014, of course, was approved

4901
05:21:45,240 --> 05:21:47,140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the last quarter

4902
05:21:47,140 --> 05:21:48,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of

4903
05:21:48,440 --> 05:21:50,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2013.

4904
05:21:51,060 --> 05:21:52,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? Ano nangyari

4905
05:21:52,700 --> 05:21:55,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung last quarter of 2013?

4906
05:21:55,300 --> 05:21:57,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Specifically, November 2013.

4907
05:21:57,760 --> 05:21:58,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lumabas po ang

4908
05:21:58,820 --> 05:22:00,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Belgica versus Ochoa.

4909
05:22:01,440 --> 05:22:03,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ano yung

4910
05:22:03,920 --> 05:22:05,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Belgica versus Ochoa?

4911
05:22:05,580 --> 05:22:06,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is the landmark

4912
05:22:06,760 --> 05:22:09,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Supreme Court ruling that declared

4913
05:22:09,060 --> 05:22:11,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the PDAF unconstitutional.

4914
05:22:12,700 --> 05:22:14,200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po,

4915
05:22:16,580 --> 05:22:17,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa totoo lang,

4916
05:22:17,420 --> 05:22:18,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung TUPAD nilikha

4917
05:22:18,440 --> 05:22:20,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bilang pang-salo

4918
05:22:20,760 --> 05:22:22,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa

4919
05:22:22,400 --> 05:22:23,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: soft

4920
05:22:23,660 --> 05:22:26,820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: portion

4921
05:22:28,820 --> 05:22:30,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba? Yung PDAF noon,

4922
05:22:30,420 --> 05:22:31,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: merong hard

4923
05:22:31,120 --> 05:22:32,840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for infrastructure

4924
05:22:32,840 --> 05:22:33,700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and soft

4925
05:22:33,700 --> 05:22:34,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for

4926
05:22:34,740 --> 05:22:35,660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayuda.

4927
05:22:36,640 --> 05:22:36,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon.

4928
05:22:37,620 --> 05:22:38,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dati,

4929
05:22:38,900 --> 05:22:39,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang menu niyan,

4930
05:22:40,200 --> 05:22:41,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mainly for education,

4931
05:22:41,860 --> 05:22:42,480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: scholarships,

4932
05:22:42,880 --> 05:22:43,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: health assistance,

4933
05:22:44,780 --> 05:22:45,580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and

4934
05:22:45,580 --> 05:22:47,440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pa po actually,

4935
05:22:47,620 --> 05:22:47,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: walang

4936
05:22:47,980 --> 05:22:48,980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for employment.

4937
05:22:50,000 --> 05:22:50,100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

4938
05:22:50,960 --> 05:22:52,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nilikha po ang tupad

4939
05:22:52,460 --> 05:22:56,180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa General Appropriations Act

4940
05:22:56,180 --> 05:22:56,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 2014

4941
05:22:56,940 --> 05:22:58,800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para ilagay doon,

4942
05:22:58,820 --> 05:23:01,120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung dating pondo

4943
05:23:01,120 --> 05:23:02,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga congressman

4944
05:23:02,320 --> 05:23:05,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na kanilang soft pork barrel

4945
05:23:05,880 --> 05:23:06,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or PDAF.

4946
05:23:07,040 --> 05:23:08,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po ang origin yan.

4947
05:23:08,540 --> 05:23:10,240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya alam naman natin, hanggang ngayon,

4948
05:23:10,820 --> 05:23:12,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganon pa rin ang nature

4949
05:23:12,160 --> 05:23:14,540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng tupad.

4950
05:23:15,680 --> 05:23:16,020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes,

4951
05:23:17,140 --> 05:23:19,060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: major, it is the biggest

4952
05:23:19,060 --> 05:23:19,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: program

4953
05:23:19,740 --> 05:23:23,360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Department of Labor and Employment,

4954
05:23:24,000 --> 05:23:24,940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero sa totoo lang,

4955
05:23:24,940 --> 05:23:26,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: alam naman natin, yung tupad,

4956
05:23:27,540 --> 05:23:28,780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's patronage-based.

4957
05:23:28,820 --> 05:23:31,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga benepisyaryo niyan,

4958
05:23:31,960 --> 05:23:32,500
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: representative,

4959
05:23:32,780 --> 05:23:34,620
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: that his time has expired.

4960
05:23:34,820 --> 05:23:36,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang mga benepisyaryo niyan,

4961
05:23:37,200 --> 05:23:38,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay yung listahan

4962
05:23:38,760 --> 05:23:40,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na binibigay ng mga congressman.

4963
05:23:41,460 --> 05:23:42,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba, ganon pa rin naman

4964
05:23:42,640 --> 05:23:44,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nature ng tupad hanggang ngayon?

4965
05:23:47,340 --> 05:23:48,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kahit po, tapos na po yung oras

4966
05:23:48,720 --> 05:23:50,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating distinguished colleague.

4967
05:23:50,240 --> 05:23:51,880
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: The sponsor may or may not respond.

4968
05:23:51,880 --> 05:23:52,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I will answer that,

4969
05:23:53,520 --> 05:23:55,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

4970
05:23:56,300 --> 05:23:56,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam po nyo,

4971
05:23:56,620 --> 05:23:58,400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa timeline po ninyong

4972
05:23:58,400 --> 05:24:00,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: binigay, tama po, 2014,

4973
05:24:00,860 --> 05:24:02,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na lumitaw yan sa ating

4974
05:24:02,060 --> 05:24:03,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: General Appropriations Act.

4975
05:24:04,600 --> 05:24:06,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It started out, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

4976
05:24:06,920 --> 05:24:08,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ito po ay proyekto lamang

4977
05:24:08,240 --> 05:24:08,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 2009.

4978
05:24:09,980 --> 05:24:12,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And as I said earlier,

4979
05:24:12,880 --> 05:24:14,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: based on your statement and your graph,

4980
05:24:15,080 --> 05:24:16,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na tama, unang lumabas ito sa

4981
05:24:16,760 --> 05:24:18,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 2014 na

4982
05:24:18,640 --> 05:24:19,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: General Appropriations Act.

4983
05:24:20,740 --> 05:24:22,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Now, during that timeline,

4984
05:24:23,940 --> 05:24:24,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung sinasabi nyo po

4985
05:24:24,740 --> 05:24:25,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasing menu, I cannot

4986
05:24:25,880 --> 05:24:28,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: answer to that.

4987
05:24:28,400 --> 05:24:35,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Because, hindi ko po alam kung saan yung nakita yan o what so ever.

4988
05:24:35,080 --> 05:24:37,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But, dole, pat-dole,

4989
05:24:37,080 --> 05:24:39,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: on our part, kasi

4990
05:24:39,080 --> 05:24:41,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang proseso po namin,

4991
05:24:41,080 --> 05:24:43,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pag may tupad is, yes,

4992
05:24:43,080 --> 05:24:45,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kaya po lumalobo yung

4993
05:24:45,080 --> 05:24:47,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Office of the Secretary, pero ito po ay

4994
05:24:47,080 --> 05:24:49,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: idadownload naman po namin sa

4995
05:24:49,080 --> 05:24:52,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ating mga regional offices.

4996
05:24:52,080 --> 05:24:56,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And based sa aming requirements, procedure,

4997
05:24:56,080 --> 05:24:58,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at dadaan din po sa

4998
05:24:58,400 --> 05:25:00,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: peso, para siguraduhin natin

4999
05:25:00,780 --> 05:25:02,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: validated yung mga nandyan.

5000
05:25:03,340 --> 05:25:03,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At

5001
05:25:03,520 --> 05:25:06,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: in our case,

5002
05:25:07,080 --> 05:25:08,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga po, dumadaan sa

5003
05:25:08,540 --> 05:25:10,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: peso na laging

5004
05:25:10,320 --> 05:25:12,500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kaakibat o kaalakbay

5005
05:25:12,500 --> 05:25:14,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating Department of Labor and Employment.

5006
05:25:15,020 --> 05:25:15,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's all, Madam Speaker.

5007
05:25:16,040 --> 05:25:18,860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa sagot.

5008
05:25:19,080 --> 05:25:20,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At bilang pagwakas,

5009
05:25:21,160 --> 05:25:22,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dinidihin po natin,

5010
05:25:22,380 --> 05:25:24,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang punto natin sa interpelasyon ito,

5011
05:25:25,000 --> 05:25:26,680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ipakita yung

5012
05:25:26,680 --> 05:25:28,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagkainutin,

5013
05:25:28,400 --> 05:25:30,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magpapahirap na

5014
05:25:30,400 --> 05:25:32,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng patakaran ng

5015
05:25:32,400 --> 05:25:34,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regionalized wage setting,

5016
05:25:34,400 --> 05:25:36,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sa totoo lang ay

5017
05:25:36,400 --> 05:25:38,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalized and localized pa nga.

5018
05:25:38,400 --> 05:25:40,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagpapahirap na,

5019
05:25:40,400 --> 05:25:42,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malinaw na nagpapahirap

5020
05:25:42,400 --> 05:25:44,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga gagawang Pilipino

5021
05:25:44,400 --> 05:25:46,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa halip na ipinagtatanggol

5022
05:25:46,400 --> 05:25:48,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang karapatan niya sa nakabubuhay

5023
05:25:48,400 --> 05:25:50,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sahod. So,

5024
05:25:50,400 --> 05:25:52,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naka-address po ito sa Kongreso,

5025
05:25:52,400 --> 05:25:54,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat ipasa na

5026
05:25:54,400 --> 05:25:56,400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay balik ang National

5027
05:25:56,400 --> 05:25:58,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Legislated Wage Increase, at kailangan,

5028
05:25:58,380 --> 05:26:00,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakabata ito sa Family Living Wage.

5029
05:26:00,380 --> 05:26:02,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, numaabot sa 1,300 a day.

5030
05:26:02,380 --> 05:26:04,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pangalawa,

5031
05:26:04,380 --> 05:26:06,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: panahon na po

5032
05:26:06,380 --> 05:26:08,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para ibalik

5033
05:26:08,380 --> 05:26:10,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang DOLE sa kanyang

5034
05:26:10,380 --> 05:26:12,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangunahing mandato.

5035
05:26:12,380 --> 05:26:14,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi siya isang

5036
05:26:14,380 --> 05:26:16,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayuda agency,

5037
05:26:16,380 --> 05:26:18,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung hindi ahensya na dapat

5038
05:26:18,380 --> 05:26:20,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakatutok sa pagbantay

5039
05:26:20,380 --> 05:26:22,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at pagprotekta sa

5040
05:26:22,380 --> 05:26:24,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: karapatan ng manggagawang

5041
05:26:24,380 --> 05:26:26,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pilipino. Kaya, itutulak po

5042
05:26:26,380 --> 05:26:28,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: natin na dapat

5043
05:26:28,380 --> 05:26:30,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tanggalin na,

5044
05:26:30,380 --> 05:26:32,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bawasan ng malaki, kundi man tanggalin

5045
05:26:32,380 --> 05:26:34,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang

5046
05:26:34,380 --> 05:26:36,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakalaking budget sa tupad,

5047
05:26:36,380 --> 05:26:38,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilipat sa core functions

5048
05:26:38,380 --> 05:26:40,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng

5049
05:26:40,380 --> 05:26:42,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: core functions and programs

5050
05:26:42,380 --> 05:26:44,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOLE, at yung

5051
05:26:44,380 --> 05:26:46,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas malaking bahagi ay

5052
05:26:46,380 --> 05:26:48,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dalhin sa ibang mga

5053
05:26:48,380 --> 05:26:50,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangangailangan na kinaltasan ngayon

5054
05:26:50,380 --> 05:26:52,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa edukasyon,

5055
05:26:52,380 --> 05:26:54,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kalusugan, at iba pang

5056
05:26:54,380 --> 05:26:56,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: social services. Hanggang doon na lamang po,

5057
05:26:56,380 --> 05:26:58,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

5058
05:26:58,380 --> 05:27:00,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

5059
05:27:00,380 --> 05:27:02,380
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

5060
05:27:02,380 --> 05:27:04,380
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we

5061
05:27:04,380 --> 05:27:06,380
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: recognize Representative Sara Jane

5062
05:27:06,380 --> 05:27:08,380
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Elago of Gabriela Women's Party

5063
05:27:08,380 --> 05:27:10,380
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: List for her interpolation.

5064
05:27:10,380 --> 05:27:12,380
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Sara Jane Elago of

5065
05:27:12,380 --> 05:27:14,380
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby

5066
05:27:14,380 --> 05:27:16,380
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: recognized for her interpolation.

5067
05:27:18,380 --> 05:27:20,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, na

5068
05:27:20,380 --> 05:27:22,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: iskong magsimula sa manipastasyon

5069
05:27:22,380 --> 05:27:24,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilang pagsuporta sa paninindigan

5070
05:27:24,380 --> 05:27:26,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga nauna nating kasamahan,

5071
05:27:26,380 --> 05:27:28,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na pagdating sa

5072
05:27:28,380 --> 05:27:30,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: panawagan ng mga manggagawa,

5073
05:27:30,380 --> 05:27:32,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga kababaihan

5074
05:27:32,380 --> 05:27:34,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na itaas na ang

5075
05:27:34,380 --> 05:27:36,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sahod. Hindi

5076
05:27:36,380 --> 05:27:38,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat gawin na pamalit sa

5077
05:27:38,380 --> 05:27:40,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Wage Order Number NCR-27

5078
05:27:40,380 --> 05:27:42,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Wage Order Number NCR-28

5079
05:27:42,380 --> 05:27:44,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na magiging

5080
05:27:44,380 --> 05:27:46,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: efektibo lamang sa Setiembre

5081
05:27:46,380 --> 05:27:48,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 26. Ang dagdag

5082
05:27:48,380 --> 05:27:50,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sahod mula Wage Order 27

5083
05:27:50,380 --> 05:27:52,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na dapat 85 peso

5084
05:27:52,380 --> 05:27:54,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa dalawang tranches

5085
05:27:54,380 --> 05:27:56,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi natanggap ng mga manggagawa

5086
05:27:56,380 --> 05:27:58,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: simula Julyo 2026

5087
05:27:58,380 --> 05:28:00,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay dagdag sana sa kanilang

5088
05:28:00,380 --> 05:28:02,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pang-araw-araw na gastusin

5089
05:28:02,380 --> 05:28:04,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa gitna ng walang humpay na

5090
05:28:04,380 --> 05:28:06,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtaas ng presyo ng mga bilihin.

5091
05:28:06,380 --> 05:28:08,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong nalantad ang

5092
05:28:08,380 --> 05:28:10,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bulok na sistemang pasahod

5093
05:28:10,380 --> 05:28:12,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ilalim ng Regional

5094
05:28:12,380 --> 05:28:14,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Wage Boards. Ito rin ang dahilan

5095
05:28:14,380 --> 05:28:16,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung bakit ang mga manggagawa ay

5096
05:28:16,380 --> 05:28:18,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: patuloy na nakakulong

5097
05:28:18,380 --> 05:28:20,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa napakababang sahod na

5098
05:28:20,380 --> 05:28:22,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi sapat para sa kanilang mga

5099
05:28:22,380 --> 05:28:24,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pamilya at hindi rin sapat para

5100
05:28:24,380 --> 05:28:26,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa isang pamumuhay

5101
05:28:26,380 --> 05:28:28,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may dignidad. Dapat nang buwagin

5102
05:28:28,380 --> 05:28:30,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga Regional Wage Boards at

5103
05:28:30,380 --> 05:28:32,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itakda ang isang pambansang

5104
05:28:32,380 --> 05:28:34,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: minimum wage na nakabubuhay

5105
05:28:34,380 --> 05:28:36,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa buong bansa. Ngayon,

5106
05:28:36,380 --> 05:28:38,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kaugnay nito, Madam Speaker,

5107
05:28:38,380 --> 05:28:40,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Pilipinas ngayon

5108
05:28:40,380 --> 05:28:42,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nasa ilalim pa rin ng State of

5109
05:28:42,380 --> 05:28:44,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: National Energy Emergency

5110
05:28:44,380 --> 05:28:46,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa visa ng Executive Order

5111
05:28:46,380 --> 05:28:48,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Number 110. At isa sa

5112
05:28:48,380 --> 05:28:50,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga puna ng ating representasyon

5113
05:28:50,380 --> 05:28:52,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating dito, hindi kasama

5114
05:28:52,380 --> 05:28:54,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Department of Labor and Employment

5115
05:28:54,380 --> 05:28:56,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa mga pangunahin

5116
05:28:56,380 --> 05:28:58,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga agencies

5117
05:28:58,380 --> 05:29:00,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na dapat ay kasama nito

5118
05:29:00,380 --> 05:29:02,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mag-aral kung ano ba ang epekto sa

5119
05:29:02,380 --> 05:29:04,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: industriya, sa kabuhayan, sa trabaho.

5120
05:29:04,380 --> 05:29:06,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At natanong po natin

5121
05:29:06,380 --> 05:29:08,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung nakasama na ba ang DOLE

5122
05:29:08,380 --> 05:29:10,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga meetings

5123
05:29:10,380 --> 05:29:12,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Uplift Committee

5124
05:29:12,380 --> 05:29:14,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at napag-uusapan ba ngayon

5125
05:29:14,380 --> 05:29:16,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil

5126
05:29:16,380 --> 05:29:18,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron na namang

5127
05:29:18,380 --> 05:29:20,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pangalawa na malaking

5128
05:29:20,380 --> 05:29:22,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: oil price hike

5129
05:29:22,380 --> 05:29:24,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayong linggo.

5130
05:29:24,380 --> 05:29:26,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mataas na naman ang presyo

5131
05:29:26,380 --> 05:29:28,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng diesel, gasolina, LPG,

5132
05:29:28,380 --> 05:29:30,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kerosene. At maski ang Kongreso

5133
05:29:30,380 --> 05:29:32,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito na

5134
05:29:32,380 --> 05:29:34,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagpasa ng pagkakaroon

5135
05:29:34,380 --> 05:29:36,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng emergency powers

5136
05:29:36,380 --> 05:29:38,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa Presidente na suspendihin

5137
05:29:38,380 --> 05:29:40,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang excise taxes,

5138
05:29:40,380 --> 05:29:42,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ngayon po wala na

5139
05:29:42,380 --> 05:29:44,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na in effect. Dahil

5140
05:29:44,380 --> 05:29:46,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nag-expire na yung para

5141
05:29:46,380 --> 05:29:48,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa suspension ng excise

5142
05:29:48,380 --> 05:29:50,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: taxes sa LPG at kerosene

5143
05:29:50,380 --> 05:29:52,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: after 3 months, simula nung April

5144
05:29:52,380 --> 05:29:54,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na masuspend ito. Sa ngayon, may

5145
05:29:54,380 --> 05:29:56,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: balita bang DOLE? Nakasama na ba kayo

5146
05:29:56,380 --> 05:29:58,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito sa mga meetings

5147
05:29:58,380 --> 05:29:59,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Uplift? At ano yung mga

5148
05:29:59,920 --> 05:30:01,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: recommendations ninyo para

5149
05:30:01,680 --> 05:30:10,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: masuportahan yung impact sa jobs ngayong taon at sa susunod na taon ng pagtaas ng presyo ng langis?

5150
05:30:11,980 --> 05:30:21,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, tungkol po dun sa inyong katanungan na kung kasama po ang Department of Labor and Employment dun sa ating uplift na kung saan,

5151
05:30:21,300 --> 05:30:39,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the answer is yes, tatlong beses na pong nakasama sa pagpupulong ang ating Department of Labor and Employment and tinitignan ko po yung oras, hindi po bukas, mamaya po meron na pong pagpupulong at dadalo po muli ang ating Departamento ng Labor and Employment.

5152
05:30:39,660 --> 05:30:54,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa pagpupulong na ito, Madam Speaker, nagkaroon na ng pagtaas, wage order para sa NCR, meron bang plano para sa labas naman ng NCR sa mga susunod na panahon?

5153
05:30:54,900 --> 05:31:01,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, your question is kung may kasunod pang wage order?

5154
05:31:01,700 --> 05:31:03,100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Outside NCR.

5155
05:31:03,100 --> 05:31:04,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Outside NCR? Yes.

5156
05:31:04,780 --> 05:31:05,310
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Akin na yung

5157
05:31:09,960 --> 05:31:21,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ito po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ang mga rehyong pinakamalapit na anibersaaryo ng kanilang kasulukoy ang wage orders ay Regions 7, 4A, and 3.

5158
05:31:21,300 --> 05:31:29,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At region 3. At babasahin ko po yung anibersaary dates para at least klaro po yung ating kung kailan.

5159
05:31:29,340 --> 05:31:41,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung anibersaary date po ng 7 is October 4, 2026. Region 4A is October 5 of 2026. And region 3 is October 30 of 2026.

5160
05:31:41,760 --> 05:31:47,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon, ang scheduled date of consultations, it varies.

5161
05:31:48,300 --> 05:31:51,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At siguro po yung ating date of publication.

5162
05:31:51,300 --> 05:31:56,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At siguro po yung ating date of publication notice of public hearings. Sa ating Region 7 was August 5, 2026.

5163
05:31:57,940 --> 05:32:06,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Region 4A was August 7 of 2026. And region 3 was September 19 of 2026.

5164
05:32:07,600 --> 05:32:12,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And the date of public hearings, again, Region 7 is August 24 and 25 of 2026.

5165
05:32:13,640 --> 05:32:17,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Also, September 3 and 4 of the year, again, 2026.

5166
05:32:17,320 --> 05:32:21,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Patungo naman po sa Region 4A, again, August 25, 2026.

5167
05:32:21,300 --> 05:32:26,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And 15 and 17 of September, 2026.

5168
05:32:27,840 --> 05:32:33,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Last region, Region 3 po, October 5, 14, 20, and 21 of 2026.

5169
05:32:33,420 --> 05:32:35,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: November 5, 9, and 11 of 2026.

5170
05:32:36,080 --> 05:32:41,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So, yung tatlong regiyon po, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, ang mga nakatakdang mga wage orders sa mga susunod.

5171
05:32:42,420 --> 05:32:46,280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maganda po marinig na may mga updates.

5172
05:32:46,280 --> 05:32:51,280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero, muli, sa ngayon talaga, sa panahon ngayon, hindi lang bari-bari ang kasunod.

5173
05:32:51,300 --> 05:32:58,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagtataas yung kinakailangan natin. Ang Kongreso mismo ang dapat kumilos para sa pagkakaroon ng Legislated Wage Increase.

5174
05:32:58,680 --> 05:33:08,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bukod pa dyan, ay lakasan din ang boses tungkol sa pagtatanggal ng mga patong-patong na buwis na pinapataw ngayon sa ating mga kababayan,

5175
05:33:08,600 --> 05:33:12,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga batayang pangangailangan sa pagkain, sa kuryente, sa langis.

5176
05:33:13,200 --> 05:33:18,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Talaga pong napakabigat niyan para sa mga ordinaryong mga manggagawa, sa mga ordinaryong Pilipino.

5177
05:33:18,800 --> 05:33:20,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, sa...

5178
05:33:21,300 --> 05:33:26,820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Report na nasubmit sa atin ng DOLE, mula 2022 hanggang 2025,

5179
05:33:27,520 --> 05:33:40,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa 50.05 milyon ang nakolekta na penalties mula sa mga establishments na lumabag sa OSH standards at naideposito na sa Bureau of Treasury.

5180
05:33:41,720 --> 05:33:47,620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ayon sa report, hindi ito naa-access ng DOLE para sa implementation ng OSH law.

5181
05:33:47,620 --> 05:33:50,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari bang malaman bakit ganito yung nangyayari?

5182
05:33:51,300 --> 05:33:54,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, malaking pondo ito.

5183
05:33:54,700 --> 05:34:04,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero yung dapat sana, ayon sa batas, na nagagamit natin para sa occupational safety and health training and education

5184
05:34:04,680 --> 05:34:11,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at iba pang mga programa pang kalusugan na may kinalaman din sa occupational safety,

5185
05:34:11,180 --> 05:34:21,280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay wala pa pong naka-airmark na pondo na tiyak na magagamit para sa mahal.

5186
05:34:21,300 --> 05:34:22,640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano talagang mga programang ito?

5187
05:34:23,340 --> 05:34:25,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

5188
05:34:25,520 --> 05:34:31,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And yung nakolekta po is 15,569,000.

5189
05:34:31,260 --> 05:34:34,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And sadly, kailangan po ito ng...

5190
05:34:34,700 --> 05:34:37,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya po ito hindi nagagamit ang inyong katanungan.

5191
05:34:37,100 --> 05:34:42,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It's because sa ating General Appropriations Act, kailangan po ng special provisions sa JA

5192
05:34:42,460 --> 05:34:46,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para ito ay magamit ng ating OSH,

5193
05:34:46,740 --> 05:34:49,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para ito ay magamit po natin sa mga susunod na...

5194
05:34:51,300 --> 05:34:53,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: mag-utilize ng ating mga pondo.

5195
05:34:53,660 --> 05:34:57,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So, timingly po, hindi pa naman po tapos yung ating...

5196
05:34:57,600 --> 05:34:59,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: We're just in the middle of the budget deliberations.

5197
05:35:00,460 --> 05:35:07,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Siguro po, through your representation, ay siguraduhin natin kasi lagi pong nakakaligtaan, unfortunately.

5198
05:35:07,620 --> 05:35:10,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So ngayon, sana po, with you, stating it for the record,

5199
05:35:10,640 --> 05:35:14,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na sana po na magkaroon na ng special provision dito para ito ay magamit na ng aming departamento.

5200
05:35:15,880 --> 05:35:21,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ang mungkahi ng doling ay magdagdag nga ng special provision.

5201
05:35:21,300 --> 05:35:27,120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ating General Appropriations Bill, para maisama na ang pagbibigay ng authority

5202
05:35:27,120 --> 05:35:32,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa DOLE na gamitin ang 10% ng mga nakolekta ng mga fines

5203
05:35:32,500 --> 05:35:36,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa operasyon ng Occupational Safety and Health Initiatives

5204
05:35:36,780 --> 05:35:40,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kabilang na ang training, education, at health programs.

5205
05:35:40,220 --> 05:35:45,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari po bang malaman kung bakit ang proposal ng DOLE ay paggamit lamang ng 10%?

5206
05:35:46,200 --> 05:35:50,160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi ba dapat mas mataas pa yung kinakailangan natin?

5207
05:35:50,160 --> 05:35:55,260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para matiyak na mas malawak yung maabot ng mga mahalagang programa na ito?

5208
05:35:56,440 --> 05:36:02,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron din ba kayong insights kung saan po nagagamit yung mga nakolekta naman itong mga nakaraang taon

5209
05:36:02,300 --> 05:36:06,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula ng mapalakas natin ang OSLO sa ating bansa?

5210
05:36:10,780 --> 05:36:17,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, well initially, tama po kayo na yung 10% lamang yung hinihingi ng DOLE.

5211
05:36:17,620 --> 05:36:20,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But for the record, pwede naman pong taas.

5212
05:36:20,160 --> 05:36:24,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But the reason of being which na bakit ito po ay 10% lamang is because

5213
05:36:24,900 --> 05:36:33,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: one, it's for capacity building muna and may sariling pondo rin yung ibang ahensya tulad ng DA, DOTR, DOH.

5214
05:36:34,080 --> 05:36:34,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So that's the reason.

5215
05:36:35,120 --> 05:36:40,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But for the record, as per Department of Labor Employment, pwede naman po itong taasan.

5216
05:36:42,040 --> 05:36:48,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mahalagay ito, Madam Speaker, kasi bagamat may mga kanya-kanyang pondo din yung ibat-ibang mga NGAs natin,

5217
05:36:48,700 --> 05:36:56,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: siyempre kailangan din natin yung malawak na partisipasyon ng pribadong sektor pagdating sa pagsunod sa OSLO.

5218
05:36:56,540 --> 05:37:06,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya bawat piso na mailalaan natin sa programa para dun sa prevention ng kahit anong violations ng OSH standards ay napakalaga.

5219
05:37:07,400 --> 05:37:15,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil hindi dapat tayo tumutugon lang kapag may nangyari na aksidente na hindi na dapat nangyayari

5220
05:37:15,900 --> 05:37:18,660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga lugar ng hanap buhay.

5221
05:37:18,660 --> 05:37:25,660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hanap buhay nga, di ba? Hindi hanap aksidente o hindi hanap patay sa pinakamalalang pangyayari.

5222
05:37:26,100 --> 05:37:33,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya dapat mas mataas yung nilalaan natin na pagtulak sa mga preventive efforts.

5223
05:37:34,480 --> 05:37:41,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, at ang bagay po na yan, ang paglalaan at pagdadagdag ng ganitong special provision

5224
05:37:41,220 --> 05:37:48,040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay isusulong ng representasyon na ito na dapat suportahan din ng ating distinguished sponsor.

5225
05:37:48,040 --> 05:37:54,400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po tayo masasapat lang sa 10%. Kung pwedeng mas mataas pa, dapat gawin nating suportahan yan.

5226
05:37:54,760 --> 05:38:06,660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, nais kong magtanong tungkol sa mekanismo ng DOLE para matugunan ang problema ng underemployment sa ating bansa.

5227
05:38:06,660 --> 05:38:18,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa pinakahuling datos ng PSA, nito lang huling linggo na lumabas, pumalo na sa 12.1% ngayong June 2026.

5228
05:38:18,040 --> 05:38:22,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po bang particular na programa para dito ang DOLE?

5229
05:38:23,100 --> 05:38:35,060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi ito po ay nilapit din natin kahapon sa DepDev na hindi pa sila naaalarma na pagkalaki-laki po ng underemployed sa ating bansa.

5230
05:38:35,980 --> 05:38:44,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasama dito, Madam Speaker, yung hindi umaabot sa 40 hours kada linggo ang kanilang oras ng trabaho.

5231
05:38:44,020 --> 05:38:47,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po mas maliit yung kanilang kinikita.

5232
05:38:48,040 --> 05:38:59,520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandito rin po, Madam Speaker, yung mga bukod sa kanilang trabaho, naghahanap pa ng ibang mga dagdag, pang racket, para lang makadagdag sa kanila pong income.

5233
05:39:00,080 --> 05:39:06,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron ba tayong particular programs and initiatives na may kinalaman sa pagtugon sa issue na ito?

5234
05:39:07,240 --> 05:39:11,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ako po inipapasalamat at tinanong mo yan.

5235
05:39:11,380 --> 05:39:17,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sa pagkat, yun sa ating underemployment, alam naman po natin ang depenisyon.

5236
05:39:18,040 --> 05:39:24,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nating kailangan ulitin na yung ating mga kababayan na naginais pa na magkaroon ng dagdagkita.

5237
05:39:25,600 --> 05:39:29,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At sa kasalukuyan, ito po ay nasa 12.9 percent.

5238
05:39:30,020 --> 05:39:34,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: O pag tinanslate mo yan ay 6.33 million.

5239
05:39:35,120 --> 05:39:42,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ang inyong katanungan po ay, nakuha ng mga programa ng aming departamento na ito ay para tugunan.

5240
05:39:42,880 --> 05:39:47,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam nyo po, tupad is one of the key factors.

5241
05:39:48,040 --> 05:39:49,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Na nilalagay po natin yan.

5242
05:39:49,680 --> 05:39:56,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kanina po, tinatanong po tayo ng ating mga kasamahan kung bakit natin na ganong kalaki yung ating pondo is because,

5243
05:39:56,980 --> 05:40:01,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: alam mo, pag pumunta ka po sa isang lugar na probinsya, ito po ay napakalaking tulong.

5244
05:40:02,180 --> 05:40:06,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At yun po ay ang isa sa mga katugunan natin doon sa underemployment.

5245
05:40:06,780 --> 05:40:12,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Let's face the reality, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, minsan talaga sa mga probinsya ay kailangan-kailangan ito.

5246
05:40:12,520 --> 05:40:16,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero hindi lang po doon nagtatapos yung ating pagtulong sa pertaining sa underemployment.

5247
05:40:16,680 --> 05:40:18,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo, studies have shown that,

5248
05:40:18,040 --> 05:40:20,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa ating labor force na kalalabas lamang,

5249
05:40:21,240 --> 05:40:26,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na importanteng-importante rin yung ating mga ibang programa ng DOLE tulad ng Job Start,

5250
05:40:26,480 --> 05:40:30,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tulad ng ating pagugunayan sa peso, job fairs,

5251
05:40:30,100 --> 05:40:35,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na para sa kung saan ay makita natin yung ating mga needs ng ating mga employers.

5252
05:40:36,200 --> 05:40:40,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maaring kasi, based on study na rin also, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

5253
05:40:40,620 --> 05:40:45,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kalimitan ay nagmi-mismatch, nagkakaroon ng mismatch doon sa ating mga aplikante.

5254
05:40:45,200 --> 05:40:48,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At the same time, doon papasok yung aming mga binanggit,

5255
05:40:48,040 --> 05:40:53,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na apat na programa ng Departamento para at least kahit papano makatugunan yung mga pangangailangan ng ating mga gagawa.

5256
05:40:55,640 --> 05:40:57,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

5257
05:40:57,640 --> 05:41:00,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit tulad na rin ang nasabi ng ating Distinguished Sponsor,

5258
05:41:01,360 --> 05:41:03,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may ambag, may relief, pero temporary lang.

5259
05:41:04,200 --> 05:41:06,820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang panawagan ng ating mga kababayan,

5260
05:41:07,460 --> 05:41:12,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas maraming job opportunities na regular, sigurado para sa kanila.

5261
05:41:12,500 --> 05:41:17,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya dapat makita rin natin yung ganyang pagtingin, yung ganyang prinsipyo,

5262
05:41:17,600 --> 05:41:20,940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kung paano natin binibigyan ng pondo yung ating mga programa.

5263
05:41:21,200 --> 05:41:23,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang para sa mga short-term temporary relief,

5264
05:41:24,040 --> 05:41:29,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero para doon sa mga pangmatagalan na paglikha ng trabaho dito sa bansa.

5265
05:41:30,100 --> 05:41:34,280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, tungkol po sa social amelioration program,

5266
05:41:35,460 --> 05:41:42,080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang galing po sa ulat na binigay ng DOLE mula 2024 hanggang 2025,

5267
05:41:42,080 --> 05:41:47,080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakapagbigay ng ₱48.91 million sa 3,764 mill workers.

5268
05:41:47,600 --> 05:41:55,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ₱93.56 million sa 437,667 field workers.

5269
05:41:55,740 --> 05:41:57,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung ikukompute ito, Madam Speaker,

5270
05:41:58,440 --> 05:42:04,940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa P213 pesos lang, P213.76 pesos lang ang matatanggap ng field workers,

5271
05:42:05,280 --> 05:42:09,540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: samantalang nasa P12,993 per mill workers.

5272
05:42:10,540 --> 05:42:11,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang tanong ko dito,

5273
05:42:13,260 --> 05:42:16,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tama po ba na sa ngayon ang binibigay natin kada mill workers?

5274
05:42:17,600 --> 05:42:22,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang binibigay sa mill workers ay nasa mga ₱2,000 to ₱3,000,

5275
05:42:22,780 --> 05:42:28,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: samantalang sa field workers, nasa P200 pesos lang po yung binibigay sa ngayon.

5276
05:43:01,560 --> 05:43:02,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

5277
05:43:02,560 --> 05:43:03,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: my distinguished colleague,

5278
05:43:03,780 --> 05:43:04,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: one-minute suspension.

5279
05:43:05,140 --> 05:43:09,480
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended.

5280
05:44:37,540 --> 05:44:38,860
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed.

5281
05:44:41,520 --> 05:44:49,230
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Ah tama po doon sa ating average na binanggit ng ating distinguished colleague.

5282
05:44:49,240 --> 05:45:00,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And I'd like to point out, sa determination of the cash bonus. Nakalagay po rito that amount of cash bonus being distributed to field workers amounts to a maximum of 10,000, while the amount received by mill

5283
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:02,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: workers amounting to a maximum of 15,000

5284
05:45:02,160 --> 05:45:04,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distributed at the end of

5285
05:45:04,120 --> 05:45:05,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the year, Madam Speaker Distinguished Colleague.

5286
05:45:06,940 --> 05:45:07,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam

5287
05:45:07,960 --> 05:45:10,120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Speaker. Ngunit, sa panahon po

5288
05:45:10,120 --> 05:45:11,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayon, abatay po sa ating mga

5289
05:45:11,960 --> 05:45:13,940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: konsultasyon sa mga mill workers

5290
05:45:13,940 --> 05:45:16,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at mga field workers sa sugar

5291
05:45:16,020 --> 05:45:18,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: industry, meron ho nakakatanggap

5292
05:45:18,240 --> 05:45:19,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng singliit ng 200

5293
05:45:19,800 --> 05:45:22,080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to 300 pesos. Hindi po

5294
05:45:22,080 --> 05:45:24,340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makatarungan yan dahil sa pang-araw-araw

5295
05:45:24,340 --> 05:45:26,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa lang nagastusin ng mga

5296
05:45:26,200 --> 05:45:28,520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: manggagawang bukid. Sa tubuhan,

5297
05:45:28,520 --> 05:45:30,280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na ngayon, ata,

5298
05:45:30,600 --> 05:45:32,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: panahon ng Tiempo Muerto,

5299
05:45:32,660 --> 05:45:34,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: wala po talagang kinikita

5300
05:45:34,680 --> 05:45:36,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ating mga kababayan.

5301
05:45:37,320 --> 05:45:38,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya sinusuportahan ang

5302
05:45:38,420 --> 05:45:40,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kinatawan na ito, ang panawagan

5303
05:45:40,700 --> 05:45:42,340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga manggagawang bukid

5304
05:45:42,340 --> 05:45:44,140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa tubuhan na dapat gawing

5305
05:45:44,140 --> 05:45:45,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 5,000 pesos ang minimum

5306
05:45:45,900 --> 05:45:48,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng cash bonus sa ilalim

5307
05:45:48,800 --> 05:45:50,400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng social amelioration

5308
05:45:50,400 --> 05:45:52,460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: program. Ata, susuportahan

5309
05:45:52,460 --> 05:45:54,260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po ba ng DOLE ang

5310
05:45:54,260 --> 05:45:56,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtitiyak na meron po tayong

5311
05:45:56,700 --> 05:45:58,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: minimum pagdating dito sa cash

5312
05:45:58,440 --> 05:46:00,320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bonus fund? Ang malaking issue kasi

5313
05:46:00,320 --> 05:46:01,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito, Madam Speaker,

5314
05:46:02,380 --> 05:46:04,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung 200 pesos,

5315
05:46:04,320 --> 05:46:06,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 300 pesos, hindi pa po yan

5316
05:46:06,000 --> 05:46:08,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasya para dun sa pamasahe

5317
05:46:08,780 --> 05:46:10,460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa lang ng mga kukuha

5318
05:46:10,460 --> 05:46:12,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga workers. Kaya nga po,

5319
05:46:13,240 --> 05:46:14,540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nilapit din sa atin ng mga

5320
05:46:14,540 --> 05:46:16,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: stakeholders na may mga panahon na

5321
05:46:16,580 --> 05:46:17,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi na lang kinukuha

5322
05:46:17,860 --> 05:46:20,860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ganitong bonus fund

5323
05:46:20,860 --> 05:46:22,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasi sa pamasahe pa lang

5324
05:46:22,800 --> 05:46:24,040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay lugi na sila. Kaya,

5325
05:46:24,460 --> 05:46:26,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa tingin ko, dapat ang tindig dito

5326
05:46:26,380 --> 05:46:28,420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng DOLE, all out, na support,

5327
05:46:28,440 --> 05:46:30,320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat may minimum at

5328
05:46:30,320 --> 05:46:32,460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makuha kung ano yung dapat

5329
05:46:32,460 --> 05:46:34,120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pangangailangan na tulong

5330
05:46:34,120 --> 05:46:36,260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating sugar industry workers

5331
05:46:36,260 --> 05:46:38,400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kung wala po ang mga manggagawa

5332
05:46:38,400 --> 05:46:40,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito na siyang

5333
05:46:40,240 --> 05:46:42,340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bumubuhay sa ating mga tubuhan

5334
05:46:42,340 --> 05:46:44,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay hindi natin maasahan

5335
05:46:44,800 --> 05:46:46,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pag-unlad din ng ganitong

5336
05:46:46,380 --> 05:46:47,100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: industriya.

5337
05:46:52,880 --> 05:46:53,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Chair,

5338
05:46:54,120 --> 05:46:54,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

5339
05:46:54,780 --> 05:46:56,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang doon sa inyong

5340
05:46:56,720 --> 05:46:58,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: statement, minimum,

5341
05:46:58,440 --> 05:47:00,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi yan po ay nakapaloob sa ating

5342
05:47:00,380 --> 05:47:02,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: batas. But then again, through your

5343
05:47:02,340 --> 05:47:04,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: representation, once again, pag ito po ay

5344
05:47:04,260 --> 05:47:06,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: naging na-amended,

5345
05:47:06,920 --> 05:47:08,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito po ay, sabi ko nga po

5346
05:47:08,760 --> 05:47:10,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as earlier statement kanina,

5347
05:47:10,580 --> 05:47:12,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: once it's enacted in TULO,

5348
05:47:12,400 --> 05:47:14,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: susunod naman ang aming departamento.

5349
05:47:15,680 --> 05:47:16,340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang panghuli,

5350
05:47:16,660 --> 05:47:18,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, tungkol

5351
05:47:18,560 --> 05:47:20,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa single entry approach.

5352
05:47:20,800 --> 05:47:22,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nais kong malaman kung

5353
05:47:22,580 --> 05:47:26,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kapag nakapag-settle ba

5354
05:47:26,560 --> 05:47:27,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: through SENA,

5355
05:47:28,440 --> 05:47:30,260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakakaroon ba ng record ang employer

5356
05:47:30,260 --> 05:47:32,100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa DOLE? At sa mga

5357
05:47:32,100 --> 05:47:34,260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagkakataon na lawyer

5358
05:47:34,260 --> 05:47:36,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang duly authorized representative

5359
05:47:36,680 --> 05:47:37,640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng employer,

5360
05:47:38,400 --> 05:47:40,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakakaroon ba ng mabilis na settlement?

5361
05:48:22,440 --> 05:48:24,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Doon sa inyong katanungan sa ating

5362
05:48:24,280 --> 05:48:26,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: single entry approach.

5363
05:48:26,960 --> 05:48:28,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I would like to read

5364
05:48:28,420 --> 05:48:30,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to you some facts pertaining

5365
05:48:30,160 --> 05:48:32,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating settlement

5366
05:48:32,100 --> 05:48:33,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: rate, which sa

5367
05:48:33,760 --> 05:48:38,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Dole Regional Office ay 84.60%

5368
05:48:38,040 --> 05:48:40,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at dun sa total sa NLRC

5369
05:48:40,360 --> 05:48:42,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is 84.07%.

5370
05:48:42,440 --> 05:48:43,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

5371
05:48:44,700 --> 05:48:46,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang katanungan ko rin ho ay

5372
05:48:46,300 --> 05:48:48,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga pagkakataon ba na lawyer

5373
05:48:48,560 --> 05:48:50,620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung duly authorized representative

5374
05:48:50,620 --> 05:48:52,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at pinapayagan ba natin

5375
05:48:52,600 --> 05:48:54,220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: halimbawa na

5376
05:48:54,220 --> 05:48:55,640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: workers representative

5377
05:48:55,640 --> 05:48:58,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang humaharap

5378
05:48:58,740 --> 05:49:00,640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: as duly authorized

5379
05:49:00,640 --> 05:49:02,720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: representative. So, both po

5380
05:49:02,720 --> 05:49:04,540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lawyer or

5381
05:49:04,540 --> 05:49:06,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwede rin naman na representative mismo

5382
05:49:06,700 --> 05:49:08,580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga workers. Madam Speaker,

5383
05:49:08,700 --> 05:49:10,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: this thing is surely, yes,

5384
05:49:10,900 --> 05:49:11,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pwede po. Yes.

5385
05:49:12,440 --> 05:49:15,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At na-raise ko po ito

5386
05:49:15,440 --> 05:49:17,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil marami din pong naglapit sa ating

5387
05:49:17,480 --> 05:49:19,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: representasyon na mahirap

5388
05:49:19,560 --> 05:49:21,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din na lawyers yung

5389
05:49:21,440 --> 05:49:23,380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kaharap ng isang manggagawa sa isang

5390
05:49:23,380 --> 05:49:25,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: settlement. Hindi po talaga ito

5391
05:49:25,200 --> 05:49:27,520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagiging pantay sa maraming pagkakataon

5392
05:49:27,520 --> 05:49:29,100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa ating karanasan

5393
05:49:29,100 --> 05:49:31,060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga nakakausap nating

5394
05:49:31,060 --> 05:49:32,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga manggagawa. Mas binabarat

5395
05:49:32,960 --> 05:49:35,120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga manggagawa kapag

5396
05:49:35,120 --> 05:49:37,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lawyer ang kaharap at napakarabi pa pong

5397
05:49:37,600 --> 05:49:39,400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: legal jargons at principles

5398
05:49:39,400 --> 05:49:41,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ibinabato sa manggagawa

5399
05:49:41,960 --> 05:49:43,640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para lang mapanindigan

5400
05:49:43,640 --> 05:49:45,700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pagbabarat sa kanilang

5401
05:49:45,700 --> 05:49:47,720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sahod. Ngayon naman po

5402
05:49:47,720 --> 05:49:49,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga

5403
05:49:49,740 --> 05:49:51,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagkakataon din na

5404
05:49:51,020 --> 05:49:53,500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pinapalabas ang workers representative.

5405
05:49:53,940 --> 05:49:55,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede ba na magkaroon kayo

5406
05:49:55,200 --> 05:49:56,960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mekanismo na hindi ito

5407
05:49:56,960 --> 05:49:59,480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mangyayari? Kapag may representative

5408
05:49:59,480 --> 05:50:01,260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po ang worker

5409
05:50:01,260 --> 05:50:03,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nagsastand as their

5410
05:50:03,300 --> 05:50:04,760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: duly authorized representative,

5411
05:50:05,280 --> 05:50:07,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat matiyak natin

5412
05:50:07,300 --> 05:50:08,720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi sila mapapalabas

5413
05:50:08,720 --> 05:50:11,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kapag nagkakaroon po ng

5414
05:50:11,020 --> 05:50:12,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: settlement sa ganitong mga kaso.

5415
05:50:16,120 --> 05:50:18,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, it's part of the process

5416
05:50:18,040 --> 05:50:20,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: but Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

5417
05:50:20,400 --> 05:50:21,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sasagutin ko rin po yung

5418
05:50:21,880 --> 05:50:23,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: una mong binanggit.

5419
05:50:25,200 --> 05:50:26,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I don't know but kung naalala po ninyo

5420
05:50:26,940 --> 05:50:29,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa ating binanggit sa ating opening statement,

5421
05:50:29,840 --> 05:50:31,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: isa yan sa ating mga inisiyatibo

5422
05:50:31,480 --> 05:50:32,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating bagong sekretary.

5423
05:50:33,080 --> 05:50:35,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Tama, intimidated yung ating mga

5424
05:50:35,100 --> 05:50:36,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: manggagawa pag ito ay abogado ang

5425
05:50:36,880 --> 05:50:39,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: karap po nila. And binanggit din po

5426
05:50:39,200 --> 05:50:41,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: natin kanina that ang ating

5427
05:50:41,080 --> 05:50:43,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: public attorney's office ay loaded

5428
05:50:43,180 --> 05:50:44,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na with the existing cases.

5429
05:50:45,560 --> 05:50:47,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon, patukoy naman doon dito sa ating

5430
05:50:47,420 --> 05:50:48,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: inisiyatib ng ating

5431
05:50:48,480 --> 05:50:51,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: bagong sekretary, Sekretary Francis Tulitino,

5432
05:50:51,620 --> 05:50:52,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kanina po binanggit po natin

5433
05:50:52,820 --> 05:50:55,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung labor attorney's office.

5434
05:50:55,200 --> 05:50:56,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ito po ay through ng kanyang

5435
05:50:56,820 --> 05:50:58,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: department order na kung saan

5436
05:50:58,860 --> 05:51:01,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: naghihinga rin po siya ng karagdagan. And I'm sure

5437
05:51:01,240 --> 05:51:03,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that is very, very

5438
05:51:03,160 --> 05:51:05,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: important. One, para ito po

5439
05:51:05,260 --> 05:51:07,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay magkaroon ng free legal assistance

5440
05:51:07,660 --> 05:51:08,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating mga

5441
05:51:08,580 --> 05:51:11,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: manggagawa. So, yan po ay isa sa

5442
05:51:11,060 --> 05:51:12,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: mga inisiyatibo ng ating

5443
05:51:12,840 --> 05:51:15,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: departamento together with the

5444
05:51:15,160 --> 05:51:17,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ating bagong sekretary,

5445
05:51:17,200 --> 05:51:18,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

5446
05:51:21,520 --> 05:51:23,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May karanasan din po ang mga

5447
05:51:23,240 --> 05:51:25,040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga manggagawa na sa pagpafal

5448
05:51:25,040 --> 05:51:27,320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa lang sa DOLE. Mismong mga

5449
05:51:27,320 --> 05:51:30,460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: employees na daw po yung

5450
05:51:30,460 --> 05:51:32,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagdi-discourage tungkol sa pagpafal

5451
05:51:32,980 --> 05:51:34,760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil wala na daw pag-asa yung kaso.

5452
05:51:34,920 --> 05:51:36,980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, sa ganito pong mga cases

5453
05:51:36,980 --> 05:51:39,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na naiparating sa atin, binubuo

5454
05:51:39,020 --> 05:51:40,840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din po namin yung report kasi po

5455
05:51:40,840 --> 05:51:42,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa paninindigan po ng aming

5456
05:51:42,600 --> 05:51:44,840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: representasyon, dapat hindi

5457
05:51:44,840 --> 05:51:46,640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maging dagdag na burokrasya

5458
05:51:46,640 --> 05:51:48,940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang sena at hindi

5459
05:51:48,940 --> 05:51:50,740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito dapat maging pamamaraan

5460
05:51:50,740 --> 05:51:52,880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng employer para lalong baratin

5461
05:51:52,880 --> 05:51:54,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga manggagawa at baka

5462
05:51:54,800 --> 05:51:56,360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kayang tignan ng DOLE.

5463
05:51:56,880 --> 05:51:58,600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede po ba kayong mag-commit? I-review

5464
05:51:58,600 --> 05:52:00,340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin na kumaari

5465
05:52:00,340 --> 05:52:02,060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi na gawing mandatory

5466
05:52:02,060 --> 05:52:04,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang single entry approach.

5467
05:52:10,760 --> 05:52:12,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ma'am, yung sa ating

5468
05:52:12,840 --> 05:52:13,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sinasabi niyo po na

5469
05:52:13,940 --> 05:52:16,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: first yung sa point niyo na

5470
05:52:16,880 --> 05:52:18,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung mismo employer nagsasabi,

5471
05:52:19,440 --> 05:52:20,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: siguro po

5472
05:52:20,220 --> 05:52:22,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: with the statement of the Department of Labor Employment

5473
05:52:22,820 --> 05:52:24,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na pwede po tayo magtulong patungo doon.

5474
05:52:24,800 --> 05:52:26,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga lang yun, sa pangalawang

5475
05:52:26,060 --> 05:52:28,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: inisiyatibo po niyo, doon sa single entry

5476
05:52:28,200 --> 05:52:29,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: approach, ito po ay mandatory.

5477
05:52:30,980 --> 05:52:32,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

5478
05:52:32,200 --> 05:52:34,360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat

5479
05:52:34,360 --> 05:52:35,780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, dapat natin

5480
05:52:35,780 --> 05:52:38,180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ma-review, hindi na gawing mandatory

5481
05:52:38,180 --> 05:52:40,160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa representasyon ng

5482
05:52:40,160 --> 05:52:42,040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gabriela Women's Party, sinusuportahan namin

5483
05:52:42,040 --> 05:52:44,080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas mataas na pondo para sa

5484
05:52:44,080 --> 05:52:46,140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pag-hire ng labor inspectors

5485
05:52:46,140 --> 05:52:48,020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lang po sa hiring, sa training,

5486
05:52:48,240 --> 05:52:50,000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa capacity building at pagtitiyak ng

5487
05:52:50,000 --> 05:52:52,240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang independence. Maraming salamat

5488
05:52:52,240 --> 05:52:53,900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

5489
05:52:53,900 --> 05:52:54,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Distinguished sponsor.

5490
05:52:54,800 --> 05:52:56,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat. Distinguished colleague.

5491
05:52:56,440 --> 05:52:57,100
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

5492
05:53:00,020 --> 05:53:02,140
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Madam Speaker, I move that

5493
05:53:02,140 --> 05:53:04,300
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: we recognize the Honorable Representative

5494
05:53:04,300 --> 05:53:06,300
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Perci Cendaña

5495
05:53:06,300 --> 05:53:08,220
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: of Akbayan Party-list

5496
05:53:08,220 --> 05:53:10,300
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: to interpolate on the proposed

5497
05:53:10,300 --> 05:53:16,240
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Madam Speaker, I withdraw my manifestation.

5498
05:53:17,500 --> 05:53:18,420
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: I move that

5499
05:53:18,420 --> 05:53:20,440
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: we recognize Representative

5500
05:53:20,440 --> 05:53:22,300
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Renee Louise Co of

5501
05:53:22,300 --> 05:53:24,500
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Kabataan Party-list to interpellate

5502
05:53:24,500 --> 05:53:26,400
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: on the proposed budget of the DOLE.

5503
05:53:27,100 --> 05:53:28,900
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Renee Louise Co

5504
05:53:28,900 --> 05:53:30,980
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized

5505
05:53:30,980 --> 05:53:31,800
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: to interpellate.

5506
05:53:32,400 --> 05:53:35,080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you Madam Speaker and good morning

5507
05:53:35,080 --> 05:53:37,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our distinguished sponsor

5508
05:53:37,220 --> 05:53:38,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and to the DOLE.

5509
05:53:40,320 --> 05:53:41,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My first

5510
05:53:41,360 --> 05:53:43,480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: line of questioning, if the gentleman

5511
05:53:43,480 --> 05:53:45,420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would be amenable to answer

5512
05:53:45,420 --> 05:53:47,100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: certain questions

5513
05:53:47,100 --> 05:53:49,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regarding the budget of

5514
05:53:49,140 --> 05:53:50,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Department of Labor and Employment.

5515
05:53:51,340 --> 05:53:52,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

5516
05:53:53,080 --> 05:53:53,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: gladly, Madam.

5517
05:53:53,780 --> 05:53:54,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you.

5518
05:53:54,500 --> 05:53:55,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

5519
05:53:56,560 --> 05:53:58,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The first line of questioning would be in relation

5520
05:53:58,680 --> 05:54:00,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to actually the

5521
05:54:00,460 --> 05:54:02,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report submitted

5522
05:54:02,900 --> 05:54:04,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by DOLE which

5523
05:54:04,060 --> 05:54:06,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation appreciates

5524
05:54:06,160 --> 05:54:08,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to our questioning

5525
05:54:08,200 --> 05:54:09,640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the Department

5526
05:54:09,640 --> 05:54:12,440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the budget briefing held

5527
05:54:12,440 --> 05:54:13,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a few weeks ago.

5528
05:54:14,540 --> 05:54:16,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And dito po, tinanong natin

5529
05:54:16,700 --> 05:54:18,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung ano po yung

5530
05:54:18,200 --> 05:54:20,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: compliance of establishments

5531
05:54:20,700 --> 05:54:22,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: within ecozones

5532
05:54:22,220 --> 05:54:23,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga

5533
05:54:24,500 --> 05:54:26,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: occupational

5534
05:54:26,340 --> 05:54:28,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: safety and

5535
05:54:28,540 --> 05:54:30,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: health regulations

5536
05:54:30,160 --> 05:54:33,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may noted

5537
05:54:33,140 --> 05:54:34,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na improvement

5538
05:54:34,760 --> 05:54:37,080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of compliance rates

5539
05:54:37,080 --> 05:54:39,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero ninonote po natin

5540
05:54:39,240 --> 05:54:41,320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito na marami pa rin

5541
05:54:41,320 --> 05:54:43,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pong mga regyon ay may below

5542
05:54:43,260 --> 05:54:45,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 100% compliance.

5543
05:54:45,600 --> 05:54:47,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meaning po sa inspections

5544
05:54:47,360 --> 05:54:48,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ginagawa ng DOLE

5545
05:54:48,680 --> 05:54:50,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung meron pong

5546
05:54:50,740 --> 05:54:52,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: labor standard violations

5547
05:54:52,840 --> 05:54:54,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or

5548
05:54:54,500 --> 05:54:56,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: safety and health hazard violations

5549
05:54:56,840 --> 05:54:59,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may mga regyon

5550
05:54:59,540 --> 05:55:02,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na hindi po 100% yung compliance.

5551
05:55:03,200 --> 05:55:03,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May I

5552
05:55:03,660 --> 05:55:06,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: clarify Madam Speaker, good sponsor

5553
05:55:06,540 --> 05:55:08,280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may minimum threshold bang

5554
05:55:08,280 --> 05:55:10,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pinaghahawakan ang DOLE regarding

5555
05:55:10,460 --> 05:55:12,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito? Ano po ang

5556
05:55:12,360 --> 05:55:14,000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pinapataw na parusa

5557
05:55:14,000 --> 05:55:16,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga patuloy na non-compliant

5558
05:55:16,760 --> 05:55:17,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung meron man?

5559
05:55:17,760 --> 05:55:19,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you.

5560
05:55:37,300 --> 05:55:38,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

5561
05:55:38,260 --> 05:55:41,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, for the first question would be ito kung may threshold.

5562
05:55:41,080 --> 05:55:44,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Wala po, kailangan po, dapat sana

5563
05:55:44,440 --> 05:55:46,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining sa OSHA ay 100%.

5564
05:55:46,440 --> 05:55:52,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pangalawa, dun sa ating penalties here thereafter

5565
05:55:52,220 --> 05:55:54,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun sa may mga existing rules and regulations naman po tayo,

5566
05:55:54,340 --> 05:56:01,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun po sa mga penalties, they could go up to as much as penalties na 100,000 pesos, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

5567
05:56:01,220 --> 05:56:09,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May records po ba tayo na sunod-sunod na taon ay hindi compliant itong mga establishments within ecozones?

5568
05:56:09,740 --> 05:56:11,880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May number po ba tayo?

5569
05:56:11,880 --> 05:56:15,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May mga pangalan po ba tayo ng mga establishments na ganito?

5570
05:56:15,800 --> 05:56:23,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung doon sa tanong po na kung meron kaming

5571
05:56:24,340 --> 05:56:26,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: datos patungo na kung may

5572
05:56:26,000 --> 05:56:28,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: violations na sunod-sunod na taon.

5573
05:56:28,640 --> 05:56:30,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Unfortunately, ma'am, we will gather

5574
05:56:30,100 --> 05:56:31,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that data, but if you gladly

5575
05:56:31,940 --> 05:56:34,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: allow us, as soon as possible, we will

5576
05:56:34,140 --> 05:56:35,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: submit to the

5577
05:56:35,060 --> 05:56:38,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: our distinguished colleague para po ito

5578
05:56:38,160 --> 05:56:40,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay matugunan at makita po

5579
05:56:40,080 --> 05:56:40,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ninyo ng personal.

5580
05:56:41,640 --> 05:56:43,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, intay na lang po natin

5581
05:56:43,960 --> 05:56:45,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung report na yun. Sana po ay maisumite

5582
05:56:45,920 --> 05:56:48,020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOLE sa

5583
05:56:48,020 --> 05:56:50,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representasyon na ito. Sana po bago

5584
05:56:50,040 --> 05:56:52,020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: matapos ang linggo. Dalala ko

5585
05:56:52,020 --> 05:56:53,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: din po, nung nakaraang taon,

5586
05:56:54,340 --> 05:56:56,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nag-furnish din ng copy

5587
05:56:56,540 --> 05:56:58,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung DOLE ng

5588
05:56:58,120 --> 05:56:59,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: similar

5589
05:56:59,400 --> 05:57:02,060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report ng sino pong

5590
05:57:02,060 --> 05:57:04,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakaka-record

5591
05:57:04,040 --> 05:57:05,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga OSHS

5592
05:57:05,660 --> 05:57:08,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violations. So, nakaka-dismaya

5593
05:57:08,680 --> 05:57:10,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may meron pa rin.

5594
05:57:10,880 --> 05:57:12,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Alam naman natin hindi

5595
05:57:12,240 --> 05:57:13,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: perfecto, pero nonetheless,

5596
05:57:14,780 --> 05:57:16,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay kung meron pong

5597
05:57:16,160 --> 05:57:18,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga sunod-sunod

5598
05:57:18,460 --> 05:57:20,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na violators, dapat po

5599
05:57:20,360 --> 05:57:21,940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay ma-actionan po yun

5600
05:57:21,940 --> 05:57:24,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOLE. Sige, Madam Speaker,

5601
05:57:24,220 --> 05:57:26,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, babalikan ko lang

5602
05:57:26,660 --> 05:57:28,440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po yung mga iilang tanong ko noong

5603
05:57:28,440 --> 05:57:30,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: budget briefing

5604
05:57:30,400 --> 05:57:32,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na kung saan sinabi po

5605
05:57:32,520 --> 05:57:34,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOLE na wala po

5606
05:57:34,520 --> 05:57:36,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: silang purview sa

5607
05:57:36,220 --> 05:57:38,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pagtukoy o kaya

5608
05:57:38,500 --> 05:57:40,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pagdikta ng mga incentives

5609
05:57:40,760 --> 05:57:42,640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na natatanggap ng locators

5610
05:57:42,640 --> 05:57:43,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or establishments

5611
05:57:43,700 --> 05:57:46,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na nasa loob ng mga

5612
05:57:46,200 --> 05:57:48,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: economic zones. Ang ayon

5613
05:57:48,460 --> 05:57:50,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po dito sa report na isinumite

5614
05:57:50,360 --> 05:57:52,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOLE, ito po ay

5615
05:57:52,520 --> 05:57:53,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nasa jurisdiction,

5616
05:57:54,220 --> 05:57:56,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the respective investment promotion

5617
05:57:56,460 --> 05:57:58,680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: agencies, gaya ng PEZA,

5618
05:57:59,100 --> 05:58:00,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in coordination with

5619
05:58:00,500 --> 05:58:02,640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Fiscal Incentives Review Board

5620
05:58:02,640 --> 05:58:04,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or ng Bureau of Internal Revenue

5621
05:58:04,740 --> 05:58:06,080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when applicable.

5622
05:58:06,960 --> 05:58:08,720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Siguro, gusto ko lang pong

5623
05:58:08,720 --> 05:58:10,560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: i-clarify, ano po ba yung

5624
05:58:10,560 --> 05:58:12,900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: basis ng ganitong set-up

5625
05:58:12,900 --> 05:58:13,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung meron man?

5626
05:58:24,220 --> 05:58:28,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

5627
05:58:28,440 --> 05:58:29,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: before I answer your question,

5628
05:58:30,660 --> 05:58:32,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun po sa unang hinihingi niyo mga datos,

5629
05:58:32,420 --> 05:58:33,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we commit,

5630
05:58:33,900 --> 05:58:36,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Huwebes na po pala ngayon, I was supposed to say Thursday,

5631
05:58:36,860 --> 05:58:38,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we will give it within the week, so that's

5632
05:58:38,540 --> 05:58:40,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Friday. To the

5633
05:58:40,460 --> 05:58:42,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: answer, kasi nga po, it's a

5634
05:58:42,480 --> 05:58:44,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: special law po yun eh, so

5635
05:58:44,260 --> 05:58:46,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang DOLE, ang role lang po ng DOLE is limited to that.

5636
05:58:47,060 --> 05:58:48,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So yung pag, yung kanyang

5637
05:58:48,560 --> 05:58:49,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nabanggit niyo po kanina,

5638
05:58:50,260 --> 05:58:52,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung mga ahensyang yun lamang

5639
05:58:52,280 --> 05:58:53,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: may tamang jurisdiction,

5640
05:58:54,220 --> 05:58:56,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito mo po dito, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

5641
05:58:57,000 --> 05:58:58,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ninonote po kasi natin, Madam

5642
05:58:58,340 --> 05:59:00,560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Speaker, good sponsor, na

5643
05:59:00,560 --> 05:59:02,560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Omnibus Investments

5644
05:59:02,560 --> 05:59:04,580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Code of 1987

5645
05:59:04,580 --> 05:59:06,380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakalaan dito

5646
05:59:06,380 --> 05:59:08,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that the Board of Investments can

5647
05:59:08,520 --> 05:59:12,880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for violations of

5648
05:59:12,880 --> 05:59:14,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the laws

5649
05:59:14,520 --> 05:59:16,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the protection of labor

5650
05:59:16,200 --> 05:59:18,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay maaaring magkansela

5651
05:59:18,340 --> 05:59:20,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga incentives

5652
05:59:20,120 --> 05:59:22,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ini-enjoy ng mga enterprises.

5653
05:59:23,140 --> 05:59:24,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At the same time,

5654
05:59:24,220 --> 05:59:26,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na mandato po ng

5655
05:59:26,200 --> 05:59:28,280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department of Labor and Employment, according

5656
05:59:28,280 --> 05:59:30,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to not only its website,

5657
05:59:30,440 --> 05:59:32,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero in laws

5658
05:59:32,500 --> 05:59:34,000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na it

5659
05:59:34,000 --> 05:59:36,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: promotes gainful employment opportunities

5660
05:59:36,500 --> 05:59:37,920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and human resource development,

5661
05:59:38,640 --> 05:59:40,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: protect and promote workers' rights

5662
05:59:40,240 --> 05:59:42,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and welfare, and promote and

5663
05:59:42,360 --> 05:59:44,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: maintain industrial peace.

5664
05:59:44,860 --> 05:59:46,140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, wala po bang

5665
05:59:46,140 --> 05:59:48,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: role yung DOLE sa

5666
05:59:48,160 --> 05:59:50,020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pag-ensure

5667
05:59:50,020 --> 05:59:52,580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na that the Board of Investments

5668
05:59:52,580 --> 05:59:54,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gets the

5669
05:59:54,220 --> 05:59:55,800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: appropriate information

5670
05:59:55,800 --> 05:59:58,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to say na kung may

5671
05:59:58,160 --> 05:59:59,540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violation of

5672
05:59:59,540 --> 05:59:59,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the laws.

5673
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:08,760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the protection of labor, ay maaari nilang i-cancel yung mga incentives ng specific locators or ng establishments

5674
06:00:08,760 --> 06:00:13,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dahil ito po yung nakalagay sa Omnibus Investments Code.

5675
06:00:13,740 --> 06:00:20,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano pong role ng DOLE sa pag-implementa ng Board of Investments ng ganitong klaseng kapangyarihan nila?

5676
06:00:21,100 --> 06:00:23,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Tama po yung binanggit po ninyo.

5677
06:00:24,640 --> 06:00:28,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At I would like to quote sa unang binanggit po ninyo.

5678
06:00:28,580 --> 06:00:37,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That ang role po ng Departamento ay ipakita sa ating mga ibang kasama na ahensya na ito po ang findings ng ating Departamento.

5679
06:00:38,280 --> 06:00:42,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So bari, yung sinasabi po nyo, kung anong role pertaining doon sa kung pwedeng i-cancela,

5680
06:00:43,300 --> 06:00:49,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay hindi na po namin sakop ang kapangyarihan ito sapagkat kami po, based on the data that we have,

5681
06:00:49,920 --> 06:00:57,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and I think we have furnished our distinguished colleague na kumpleto naman po yung aming inspections pertaining to that

5682
06:00:57,580 --> 06:00:58,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: but to the matter of...

5683
06:00:58,580 --> 06:01:05,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So na kami po ay magkakancela, we don't have that jurisdiction, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

5684
06:01:06,620 --> 06:01:15,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And I'd like to add, na sisiguraduhin ko po sa inyo, na tayo po ay ginagampanan natin yung ating mga inspections sa lahat ng ating mga ecozones during that time.

5685
06:01:15,980 --> 06:01:26,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So to clarify, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano po yung role ng DOLE vis-a-vis yung Board of Investments

5686
06:01:26,160 --> 06:01:28,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or yung Fiscal Incentives Review Board?

5687
06:01:28,580 --> 06:01:34,700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kung may findings sila na may violation sa loss on protecting labor na nangyari?

5688
06:01:36,160 --> 06:01:42,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, sabi ko nga po, pag-check ng DOLE, ang role ng DOLE, if they're in compliance,

5689
06:01:43,200 --> 06:01:45,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung may violations, obligadong ilalagay din po natin yan.

5690
06:01:46,920 --> 06:01:51,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And we have the records, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, if needed and necessary.

5691
06:01:51,200 --> 06:01:58,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Does the DOLE submit these findings of violations to the Board of Investments?

5692
06:01:58,580 --> 06:02:02,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How often do they submit it? How often do they meet, etc.?

5693
06:02:02,500 --> 06:02:05,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano po nila nakakommunicate yung gano'ng klaseng violations?

5694
06:02:07,700 --> 06:02:10,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, we can submit to a report.

5695
06:02:10,900 --> 06:02:18,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But gusto ko lang po dagdagan, but in terms of pag-OSH law na po, ito po ay pwedeng patawan na agad ng Departamento.

5696
06:02:19,700 --> 06:02:22,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa violation ng OSH, for example.

5697
06:02:23,060 --> 06:02:23,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa OSH po.

5698
06:02:23,520 --> 06:02:27,520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Gusto natin ma-insure na may...

5699
06:02:28,580 --> 06:02:30,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ...accountability sa ibang ahensya.

5700
06:02:31,520 --> 06:02:38,080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na po, nasa mandato naman po ng ahensya na yun na may accountability kung may violation sa protection,

5701
06:02:38,800 --> 06:02:45,480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: loss of protection of labor, meron po ba itong report na isinusumite, for example,

5702
06:02:45,620 --> 06:02:50,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga dapat pong may action on incentives, for example,

5703
06:02:50,360 --> 06:02:57,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para hindi lang po titigil tayo sa accountability on OSH law.

5704
06:02:58,580 --> 06:03:00,940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And other forms of accountability when applicable.

5705
06:03:01,900 --> 06:03:10,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, yes, sabi ko nga po, ginagawa ng ating Departamento yung role po natin na we furnish everybody a copy.

5706
06:03:11,440 --> 06:03:21,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And for the appreciation of our distinguished colleague, pwede naman po tayong mag-submit sa inyong tanggapan ng lahat ng aming mga ginawang patungkol po dito.

5707
06:03:21,880 --> 06:03:27,960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kung maisusumite po dito sa representasyon na ito,

5708
06:03:28,580 --> 06:03:38,260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kopya ng report, kung paano po tinitiyak ng DOLE na yung modes of accountability niya,

5709
06:03:38,380 --> 06:03:45,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it does not stop at what it can do as the extent of powers it has.

5710
06:03:45,200 --> 06:03:55,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero pagbibigay ng impormasyon and coordination with other agencies na maaaring magbigay yung DOLE ng impormasyon sa kanila,

5711
06:03:56,220 --> 06:03:58,400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at madetalye po sana.

5712
06:03:58,580 --> 06:03:59,280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa isang report.

5713
06:03:59,600 --> 06:04:08,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kasi the DOLE is in the best opportunity, in the best position na magbigay ng impormasyon na ito.

5714
06:04:08,480 --> 06:04:10,880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Halos wala naman na pong ibang makakapagbigay nito.

5715
06:04:10,880 --> 06:04:18,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At kung kaya pong aktuhan ng Board of Investments ayon po sa impormasyon ng DOLE,

5716
06:04:19,060 --> 06:04:27,880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dapat lang po, we'd like not to see a scenario where there are locators, establishments that enjoy incentives

5717
06:04:28,580 --> 06:04:35,080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but are repeated violators of laws protecting labor.

5718
06:04:35,640 --> 06:04:39,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, maaasahan po ba natin yung report na ito?

5719
06:04:39,660 --> 06:04:42,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes. That's a definite yes.

5720
06:04:43,200 --> 06:04:51,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And if our Distinguished Colleague, can I make a plea?

5721
06:04:51,500 --> 06:04:54,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kanina po, binanggit ko po na isasubmit po namin ng biyernes.

5722
06:04:54,840 --> 06:04:58,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pagtingin ko po doon sa ating monitor ay Huwebes na po pala ngayon.

5723
06:04:58,580 --> 06:05:03,100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: If it would be allowable, pagpinayagan po tayo ng ating Distinguished Colleague,

5724
06:05:03,560 --> 06:05:07,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi biyernes na po ay technically bukas na po, kung papayagan niyo po kami,

5725
06:05:07,580 --> 06:05:12,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: isasubmit po namin ang lahat ng dokumentong hiningi po ninyo by Monday of next week

5726
06:05:12,300 --> 06:05:16,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: if it's papayagan po ng ating Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker.

5727
06:05:16,980 --> 06:05:18,860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes po, okay naman po yung Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

5728
06:05:18,860 --> 06:05:20,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat po, Distinguished Colleague.

5729
06:05:20,600 --> 06:05:26,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My last line of questioning, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is in relation po sa tinanong din po natin sa TESDA,

5730
06:05:28,580 --> 06:05:38,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Project UNLAD, kung saan ito ay partnership ng DICT sa pag-ensure na yung AI upskilling

5731
06:05:38,840 --> 06:05:43,840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay hindi lang po ito nagagawa ng pro forma,

5732
06:05:44,640 --> 06:05:52,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero substantively nakakapagpataas ng kalidad ng ating mga BPO workers

5733
06:05:52,740 --> 06:05:58,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and other such workers na nangailangan ng ganitong skillset.

5734
06:05:58,580 --> 06:06:05,460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nakita po natin sa report that around 18,500 na manggagawa

5735
06:06:05,460 --> 06:06:08,660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang nakakatanggap ng upskilling under Project UNLAD.

5736
06:06:09,660 --> 06:06:15,240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero ang tanong po natin sa bantanang layoffs sa gitna ng paggamit ng AI sa mga BPO companies,

5737
06:06:16,360 --> 06:06:21,740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sapat ba na around that number ang nakakatanggap ng upskilling under Project UNLAD

5738
06:06:21,740 --> 06:06:24,360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: upang masiguro ang kanilang tuloy-tuloy na trabaho?

5739
06:06:24,640 --> 06:06:25,720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

5740
06:06:26,840 --> 06:06:28,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

5741
06:06:28,580 --> 06:06:35,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: before I directly answer your question, let me read first the status of the AI upskilling.

5742
06:06:35,800 --> 06:06:41,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, TESDA is calling up its AI skills programs in line with the National AI Upskilling Roadmap

5743
06:06:41,600 --> 06:06:45,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: through different delivery modalities such as institution-based delivery,

5744
06:06:46,180 --> 06:06:48,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: enterprise-based training and online courses.

5745
06:06:49,280 --> 06:06:56,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: TESDA has already allocated 53,442 scholarship slots for AI and digital-related skills

5746
06:06:56,840 --> 06:06:58,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as of August 20, 2026.

5747
06:06:58,580 --> 06:07:06,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: The context would be that TESDA recognizes the need to adopt our workforce with AI.

5748
06:07:06,780 --> 06:07:07,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kailangan, kailangan na po yan.

5749
06:07:08,580 --> 06:07:12,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Estimates vary but different analysis place the number of jobs that will be affected by AI

5750
06:07:12,980 --> 06:07:16,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: around 25 to 35 percent of jobs.

5751
06:07:16,660 --> 06:07:18,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's roughly around 12 million.

5752
06:07:18,860 --> 06:07:23,500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And the National AI Upskilling Roadmap segmentizes the labor force into three clusters

5753
06:07:23,500 --> 06:07:26,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that represent three A's in AI.

5754
06:07:26,260 --> 06:07:28,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One is AI awareness, AI adoption,

5755
06:07:28,580 --> 06:07:29,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and AI advancement.

5756
06:07:30,460 --> 06:07:36,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: This entails different courses from foundational competencies and AI literacy

5757
06:07:36,080 --> 06:07:40,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to more specialized and advanced courses that will equip Filipinos with skills

5758
06:07:40,900 --> 06:07:44,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: not only to consume but also to build AI systems.

5759
06:07:45,100 --> 06:07:46,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

5760
06:07:47,700 --> 06:07:49,340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

5761
06:07:50,140 --> 06:07:55,300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ano po yung sagot natin dun sa tanong nasapat po ba ang may 18,

5762
06:07:55,460 --> 06:07:57,820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or rather ang namention may some 50,000?

5763
06:07:57,820 --> 06:07:58,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 53,000.

5764
06:07:58,580 --> 06:07:59,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 53,442.

5765
06:08:00,120 --> 06:08:03,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam, doon sa pagbanggit ko nga po kanina,

5766
06:08:03,780 --> 06:08:05,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: siguro I forgot to mention TESDA.

5767
06:08:06,500 --> 06:08:09,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's the reason na ang unchallenged po sa atin ngayon,

5768
06:08:09,360 --> 06:08:11,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating hinihingi ng ating ekonomiya.

5769
06:08:12,180 --> 06:08:13,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Isang role ng DOLE and TESDA,

5770
06:08:13,920 --> 06:08:15,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: TESDA to be specific,

5771
06:08:16,100 --> 06:08:19,400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na i-reskill, i-upskill,

5772
06:08:19,980 --> 06:08:24,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and kung sa tanong mo kung sapat na yung binanggit mong 18,000,

5773
06:08:24,000 --> 06:08:27,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: or in fact, based sa 53,442,

5774
06:08:27,220 --> 06:08:30,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa official stance po ng TESDA,

5775
06:08:30,780 --> 06:08:33,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito po ay nabawasan nga yung pondo for 2027,

5776
06:08:33,980 --> 06:08:37,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: compared to the GAA of 2026.

5777
06:08:37,600 --> 06:08:43,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So ang tamang sagot po dyan ay kulang pa po yung ating mga programa,

5778
06:08:43,900 --> 06:08:46,500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and sa ating opening statement po kanina,

5779
06:08:46,600 --> 06:08:49,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay binanggit po natin na kung maaari itong madagdagan,

5780
06:08:49,700 --> 06:08:52,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay welcome na welcome po yan sa aming departamento.

5781
06:08:53,760 --> 06:08:57,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: As a last question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

5782
06:08:57,220 --> 06:08:59,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or for now,

5783
06:08:59,220 --> 06:09:02,780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hinihingi po ng kopya sana ang representasyon na ito ng Roadmap,

5784
06:09:02,780 --> 06:09:07,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na I assume na medyo fresh or hot off the press pa siya,

5785
06:09:07,040 --> 06:09:09,040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero other than that,

5786
06:09:09,040 --> 06:09:13,500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ano po ba yung mga indicators natin na successful yung upskilling?

5787
06:09:13,500 --> 06:09:16,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung ilan pong siguro inaasahan natin,

5788
06:09:16,160 --> 06:09:18,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung promotion sa trabaho,

5789
06:09:18,160 --> 06:09:20,160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: increased salary,

5790
06:09:20,160 --> 06:09:24,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: siguro mas mabilis na turnout, etc.

5791
06:09:24,600 --> 06:09:26,600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano po ba ang mga indicators na ito?

5792
06:09:27,220 --> 06:09:34,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Magandang tanong, to justify na kami po ay ang TESDA po ay humihingi po ng karagdagang budget for that.

5793
06:09:34,220 --> 06:09:36,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

5794
06:09:36,220 --> 06:09:39,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'd like to state for the record,

5795
06:09:39,220 --> 06:09:43,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na lahat po nang dumaan sa tech-voc path,

5796
06:09:43,220 --> 06:09:47,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay based on the results na ginagawa po natin,

5797
06:09:47,220 --> 06:09:50,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay meron pong 83.4% employability.

5798
06:09:50,220 --> 06:09:55,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ibig sabihin, pag ikaw po ay dumaan sa skills training sa TESDA,

5799
06:09:55,220 --> 06:09:57,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay mataas, o napakataas,

5800
06:09:57,220 --> 06:09:59,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng chance for employability.

5801
06:09:59,220 --> 06:10:03,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And also, it goes to show sa ating certification program,

5802
06:10:03,220 --> 06:10:10,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na if it is applicable to or acceptable to the distinguished colleague,

5803
06:10:10,220 --> 06:10:12,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay marami po na tayo nagawa dyan,

5804
06:10:12,220 --> 06:10:14,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and we can definitely furnish you

5805
06:10:14,220 --> 06:10:17,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of all that necessary reports pertaining to certification,

5806
06:10:17,220 --> 06:10:20,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and what I've said, the 83.4% employability

5807
06:10:20,220 --> 06:10:24,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng mga dumadaan sa tech-voc path po natin sa ating bansang Pilipinas.

5808
06:10:24,220 --> 06:10:26,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hintayin po natin yung ulat na yun.

5809
06:10:26,220 --> 06:10:33,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Siguro sana po sa lunes ay maisabay siya doon sa submissions as well ng DOLE.

5810
06:10:33,220 --> 06:10:37,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang huli na lang po nating manifestation ay up until now,

5811
06:10:37,220 --> 06:10:43,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mataas ang anxiety ng mga tao tungkol sa layoffs na dulot ng AI.

5812
06:10:43,220 --> 06:10:47,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At kung we ride the trend of upskilling,

5813
06:10:47,220 --> 06:10:55,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang naishare po so far ay hindi rin po nakikita sa indicators na may job security dito.

5814
06:10:55,220 --> 06:10:58,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, nonetheless, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

5815
06:10:58,220 --> 06:11:05,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like to register na ito yung anxiety at ito yung hirap na pinakaharap ng ating mga BPO workers.

5816
06:11:05,220 --> 06:11:11,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At beyond upskilling, no, gusto natin tuloy-tuloy na may sagot doon sa tanong na paano ba i-ensure

5817
06:11:11,220 --> 06:11:16,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may disenteng trabaho, na may nakabubuhay na sahod ang mga manggagawang Pilipino.

5818
06:11:16,220 --> 06:11:20,220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po. Thank you, good sponsor.

5819
06:11:20,220 --> 06:11:23,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Thank you, distinguished colleague.

5820
06:11:23,220 --> 06:11:30,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And yes, we will submit on Monday together with the DOLE and TESDA reports, Distinguished Colleague. Maraming salamat po.

5821
06:11:30,220 --> 06:11:32,220
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader?

5822
06:11:32,220 --> 06:11:37,220
Floor Leader: Madam Speaker, I'd like to acknowledge our last interpellator of the day,

5823
06:11:37,220 --> 06:11:41,220
Floor Leader: the Honorable Perci Cendaña from the Akbayan Party-list.

5824
06:11:41,220 --> 06:11:46,220
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Perci Cendaña of Akbayan Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

5825
06:11:46,220 --> 06:11:52,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Magandang umaga po. Ginoong sponsor at sa buong DOLE family.

5826
06:11:52,220 --> 06:11:57,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At siyempre kasama dyan, special mention, ang paborito nating TESDA.

5827
06:11:57,220 --> 06:12:04,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At ngayon po, pinag-uusapan natin ang budget ng Department of Labor and Employment.

5828
06:12:04,220 --> 06:12:08,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At pangunahin dito yung usapin ng workers' rights and welfare.

5829
06:12:08,220 --> 06:12:21,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: But the irony is not lost on me. Marami po mga manggagawa tayo dito sa loob ng Kongreso, sa ating mga opisina, at mismo po sa DOLE, ang Puyat na ngayong araw na ito.

5830
06:12:21,220 --> 06:12:27,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And while naniniwala tayo na dapat walang tulugan para sa transparency and accountability,

5831
06:12:27,220 --> 06:12:32,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa dulo po dapat huwag din nating pabayaan ang kapakanan ng ating mga manggagawa.

5832
06:12:32,220 --> 06:12:37,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Let me begin with a humble appeal to the leadership of the House of Representatives.

5833
06:12:37,220 --> 06:12:43,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Natiyakin po natin yung kapakanan, kalusugan ng ating mga manggagawa, ang kanilang well-being.

5834
06:12:43,220 --> 06:12:50,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Hindi po talaga makatarungan ang ganitong uri ng diskurso sa ganitong alangan ng oras na ng madaling araw.

5835
06:12:51,220 --> 06:12:56,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And the irony of it all, we're talking about workers' rights and welfare now.

5836
06:12:56,220 --> 06:13:11,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Balik lang po ako, Madam Speaker, ginaong sponsor doon sa kaninang exchange between the good sponsor and Representative Elly tungkol po sa nangyaring September 10 NWPC meeting.

5837
06:13:11,220 --> 06:13:20,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Allegedly, may nangyaring NWPC meeting noong September 10. At nabanggit din po kanina na isang dahilan kaya po lumipat ng kwarto ay dahil daw po mayroong disruption.

5838
06:13:21,220 --> 06:13:29,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Can the good sponsor elaborate further on this claim about disruptions or disruptors?

5839
06:13:29,220 --> 06:13:42,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, well, the process sa wage setting, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, there's a reason na bakit po may proseso.

5840
06:13:42,220 --> 06:13:50,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, nabanggit po natin leading to the September 10, was that there was already a public hearing.

5841
06:13:51,220 --> 06:13:55,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Or consultation, but technically the right word is public hearing. September 2 po yan.

5842
06:13:55,220 --> 06:14:00,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Na marami po yung, we have pictures and videos na lahat naman po doon ay imbitado.

5843
06:14:00,220 --> 06:14:14,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pertaining doon po sa sinasabing September 10, tandaan po ninyo, yung ito na po ay nagpapatukoy doon sa Wage Order No. 28 na dapat ay affirmation.

5844
06:14:14,220 --> 06:14:20,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And for the record, sabi ko nga po kanina, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the reason of being wage na ito po ay ating nabanggit.

5845
06:14:21,220 --> 06:14:30,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sapagkat, yung mga miyembro dapat ng ating na kung saan na, nasa affirmation doon sa ating wage order, ay dapat nandun na po.

5846
06:14:30,220 --> 06:14:37,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nandun din yun sa binanggit ko na yung labor sector. Unfortunately, yung isa pong miyembro ay wala po.

5847
06:14:37,220 --> 06:14:43,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And we have the minutes to prove so, na yun lamang po dapat talaga yung mga naroon.

5848
06:14:43,220 --> 06:14:47,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So in short, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

5849
06:14:47,220 --> 06:14:55,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung board po mismo yun nandun. And siguro, you just don't take my word for it.

5850
06:14:55,220 --> 06:14:59,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kanina nga po, I've asked permission from the good secretariat, tandaan po natin yung

5851
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:02,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung dapat yung pag nagdi-desisyon na

5852
06:15:02,560 --> 06:15:05,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o pag mag-a-affirm na ang NWPC,

5853
06:15:06,160 --> 06:15:10,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it is not mandated na ibigay yung minutes of the said meeting.

5854
06:15:11,380 --> 06:15:13,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero kami po, sabi ko nga po, on the record,

5855
06:15:14,580 --> 06:15:15,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi ganun po kami kakumpiyansa,

5856
06:15:16,060 --> 06:15:18,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is because we are willing to do so.

5857
06:15:18,700 --> 06:15:21,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan po ay may para at least to appease everybody.

5858
06:15:21,500 --> 06:15:23,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At the same time, para ipakita

5859
06:15:23,440 --> 06:15:26,080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kami ang Department of Labor and Employment

5860
06:15:26,080 --> 06:15:28,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining to that September 10 meeting

5861
06:15:28,240 --> 06:15:30,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa affirmation ng Wage Order 28

5862
06:15:30,360 --> 06:15:32,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay walang tinatago at the same time

5863
06:15:32,700 --> 06:15:34,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para sinigurado rin po natin

5864
06:15:34,280 --> 06:15:35,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na yung Wage Order No. 28

5865
06:15:35,880 --> 06:15:37,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay ma-affirm natin,

5866
06:15:38,260 --> 06:15:40,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ma-publish September 11

5867
06:15:40,980 --> 06:15:43,020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and hopefully ma-implement

5868
06:15:43,020 --> 06:15:46,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o maging ganap na wage order

5869
06:15:46,000 --> 06:15:49,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to be implemented on September 26 of this year.

5870
06:15:49,340 --> 06:15:50,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

5871
06:15:51,580 --> 06:15:53,900
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

5872
06:15:54,840 --> 06:15:57,480
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I beg your indulgence, kailangan ko pong ulitin yung tanong.

5873
06:15:57,480 --> 06:15:59,480
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ano po o sino yung disruptors

5874
06:16:00,000 --> 06:16:02,300
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o ano po yung disruption na nabanggit kanina?

5875
06:16:03,000 --> 06:16:05,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: The reason as to why the meeting was transferred

5876
06:16:05,420 --> 06:16:07,800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: from the original venue to another venue?

5877
06:16:11,700 --> 06:16:12,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Well,

5878
06:16:15,120 --> 06:16:17,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: let it, ilalagay ko po sa konteksto.

5879
06:16:18,800 --> 06:16:21,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Binanggit ko po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

5880
06:16:21,500 --> 06:16:26,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na yung ating affirmation ay yung wage setting na nga po.

5881
06:16:26,700 --> 06:16:27,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nandun na po.

5882
06:16:27,480 --> 06:16:31,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nandun na po dapat yung ating mga dapat na nandoon.

5883
06:16:32,320 --> 06:16:34,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga lang po, may mga pumasok na

5884
06:16:34,220 --> 06:16:36,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: are not supposed to be there

5885
06:16:36,880 --> 06:16:40,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi yun na nga po yung affirmation ng Wage No. 28.

5886
06:16:40,440 --> 06:16:41,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Tapos na po yung public hearing eh.

5887
06:16:42,020 --> 06:16:44,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: There's a difference, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

5888
06:16:44,720 --> 06:16:47,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Now, I have it on

5889
06:16:47,440 --> 06:16:53,400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: there's labor leaders na mga pumasok

5890
06:16:53,400 --> 06:16:55,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hindi naman po dapat because

5891
06:16:55,460 --> 06:16:56,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga,

5892
06:16:56,440 --> 06:16:57,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito,

5893
06:16:57,480 --> 06:16:59,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it was supposed to be the decision or affirmation

5894
06:16:59,360 --> 06:17:01,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of the NWPC already.

5895
06:17:02,080 --> 06:17:03,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

5896
06:17:04,660 --> 06:17:06,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Go ahead, sorry.

5897
06:17:06,680 --> 06:17:08,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'm so sorry, Mr. Distinguished Colleague.

5898
06:17:09,280 --> 06:17:11,140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Just to reiterate, Madam Speaker,

5899
06:17:11,380 --> 06:17:11,980
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: good sponsor,

5900
06:17:12,280 --> 06:17:13,700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: hindi po disruptors

5901
06:17:13,700 --> 06:17:14,740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o hindi disruption

5902
06:17:14,740 --> 06:17:16,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang ating pong pag-assert

5903
06:17:16,880 --> 06:17:18,200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na mga leader manggagawa

5904
06:17:18,200 --> 06:17:19,820
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o organisadong mga union

5905
06:17:19,820 --> 06:17:21,260
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng karapatan po nila

5906
06:17:21,260 --> 06:17:22,720
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na malaman ang katotohanan

5907
06:17:22,720 --> 06:17:23,560
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at magpahayag po

5908
06:17:23,560 --> 06:17:24,760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng kanilang posisyon

5909
06:17:24,760 --> 06:17:26,780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa napakalagang issue ng sahod.

5910
06:17:26,780 --> 06:17:28,360
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Lalo na po sa sahod

5911
06:17:28,360 --> 06:17:30,280
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na kailangan-kailangan dagdagan sa ngayon.

5912
06:17:30,500 --> 06:17:32,020
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: But let me move on to another topic.

5913
06:17:32,160 --> 06:17:33,640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Just like to underscore

5914
06:17:33,640 --> 06:17:35,900
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that the labor movement

5915
06:17:35,900 --> 06:17:36,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: or labor leaders

5916
06:17:36,880 --> 06:17:38,460
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: are not disruptors.

5917
06:17:39,480 --> 06:17:41,340
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pag-usapan po natin yung enforcement

5918
06:17:41,340 --> 06:17:43,460
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng Department Order 156.

5919
06:17:44,140 --> 06:17:45,820
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ito po ay concern na gusto i-raise

5920
06:17:45,820 --> 06:17:46,800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng mga kasama natin

5921
06:17:46,800 --> 06:17:48,940
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mula sa commercial fishing industry.

5922
06:17:49,540 --> 06:17:50,360
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sabi po ng DOLE,

5923
06:17:50,840 --> 06:17:52,460
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 6,048 workers

5924
06:17:52,460 --> 06:17:53,900
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang covered ng enforcement

5925
06:17:53,900 --> 06:17:55,280
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng DO 156

5926
06:17:55,280 --> 06:17:56,760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: noong June 2026.

5927
06:17:56,780 --> 06:17:59,120
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Gaano na po karaming

5928
06:17:59,120 --> 06:17:59,780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: individual fishers

5929
06:18:00,320 --> 06:18:01,640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang na-verify natin

5930
06:18:01,640 --> 06:18:03,760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na nakakakuha na sa ngayon

5931
06:18:03,760 --> 06:18:05,520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng mandated minimum wage?

5932
06:18:16,500 --> 06:18:17,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

5933
06:18:18,580 --> 06:18:19,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

5934
06:18:20,300 --> 06:18:21,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: based dito po sa aming datos

5935
06:18:21,780 --> 06:18:24,040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa June 2026,

5936
06:18:24,040 --> 06:18:25,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: workers covered,

5937
06:18:26,780 --> 06:18:28,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 6,048.

5938
06:18:28,800 --> 06:18:30,800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 6,048 po.

5939
06:18:31,280 --> 06:18:32,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Saan po galing itong

5940
06:18:32,420 --> 06:18:34,320
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 98.91 compliance rate

5941
06:18:34,320 --> 06:18:35,160
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng DOLE na ito?

5942
06:18:54,720 --> 06:18:55,580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

5943
06:18:55,680 --> 06:18:56,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

5944
06:18:56,400 --> 06:18:56,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: are you referring to the

5945
06:18:56,760 --> 06:18:59,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: same compliance rate,

5946
06:19:00,020 --> 06:19:01,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 98.1% sa OSH?

5947
06:19:02,420 --> 06:19:04,840
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: This was mentioned to us

5948
06:19:04,840 --> 06:19:05,780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: in a letter

5949
06:19:05,780 --> 06:19:08,240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: from DOLE

5950
06:19:08,240 --> 06:19:09,740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: as a response to our query

5951
06:19:09,740 --> 06:19:11,680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: regarding the implementation

5952
06:19:11,680 --> 06:19:14,440
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of DO 156.

5953
06:19:14,440 --> 06:19:15,440
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Do 156.

5954
06:19:18,780 --> 06:19:25,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

5955
06:19:25,720 --> 06:19:26,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

5956
06:19:26,300 --> 06:19:28,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito nga po din sa ating

5957
06:19:28,060 --> 06:19:29,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining sa minimum wage,

5958
06:19:29,560 --> 06:19:31,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 98.91%.

5959
06:19:31,460 --> 06:19:34,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So, gano'n na po karami pa

5960
06:19:34,420 --> 06:19:35,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang biktima pa rin

5961
06:19:35,420 --> 06:19:36,840
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng traditional sharing scheme

5962
06:19:36,840 --> 06:19:37,480
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of payment?

5963
06:19:50,360 --> 06:19:51,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

5964
06:19:51,240 --> 06:19:51,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

5965
06:19:52,020 --> 06:19:53,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang suma total po

5966
06:19:53,320 --> 06:19:54,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is less than 2%.

5967
06:19:54,280 --> 06:19:56,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nasaan po itong mga biktimang

5968
06:19:56,220 --> 06:19:57,700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ito noong traditional

5969
06:19:57,700 --> 06:19:58,560
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sharing scheme?

5970
06:20:03,940 --> 06:20:04,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

5971
06:20:04,940 --> 06:20:05,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

5972
06:20:06,460 --> 06:20:08,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: if it's amenable to you,

5973
06:20:08,880 --> 06:20:09,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we can furnish the,

5974
06:20:10,440 --> 06:20:11,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we'll just compile the cases

5975
06:20:11,760 --> 06:20:13,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa Region 12 at the same time.

5976
06:20:13,600 --> 06:20:15,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Give the Distinguished Colleague

5977
06:20:15,300 --> 06:20:17,140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung kumpletong datos po.

5978
06:20:17,760 --> 06:20:18,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

5979
06:20:18,260 --> 06:20:18,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague.

5980
06:20:19,280 --> 06:20:19,640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po,

5981
06:20:19,720 --> 06:20:20,760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: hintayin po natin yan

5982
06:20:20,760 --> 06:20:22,160
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: kasi nakikita po natin

5983
06:20:22,160 --> 06:20:23,040
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa kabila po

5984
06:20:23,040 --> 06:20:24,040
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng implementation

5985
06:20:24,040 --> 06:20:25,620
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng DO 156,

5986
06:20:25,740 --> 06:20:26,200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mayroon pa rin po

5987
06:20:26,200 --> 06:20:27,600
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: tayong mga manggagawa

5988
06:20:27,600 --> 06:20:29,520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa commercial fishing

5989
06:20:29,520 --> 06:20:30,200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: vessels

5990
06:20:30,800 --> 06:20:32,240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa industriya pong ito

5991
06:20:32,240 --> 06:20:33,260
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang nakakaranas

5992
06:20:33,260 --> 06:20:34,840
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng violation pa rin

5993
06:20:34,840 --> 06:20:35,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng kanilang karapatan

5994
06:20:35,880 --> 06:20:37,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para po sa minimum wage.

5995
06:20:37,340 --> 06:20:38,160
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So, we will wait

5996
06:20:38,160 --> 06:20:40,200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: for the report

5997
06:20:40,960 --> 06:20:42,140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the Department of Labor

5998
06:20:42,140 --> 06:20:42,840
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: through the good

5999
06:20:42,840 --> 06:20:44,700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sponsor, Madam Speaker.

6000
06:20:44,860 --> 06:20:45,680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Let me move on

6001
06:20:45,680 --> 06:20:46,700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: to another issue.

6002
06:20:47,260 --> 06:20:47,760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And this is

6003
06:20:47,760 --> 06:20:49,660
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ILO Convention No. 81.

6004
06:20:49,920 --> 06:20:50,820
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Noong November po,

6005
06:20:50,860 --> 06:20:51,480
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: noong isang taon,

6006
06:20:51,900 --> 06:20:53,340
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ipinatupad na ng Pilipinas.

6007
06:20:53,820 --> 06:20:54,780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At naglalayon po ito

6008
06:20:54,780 --> 06:20:55,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na magtakda

6009
06:20:55,420 --> 06:20:56,080
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng standards

6010
06:20:56,200 --> 06:20:56,940
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para sa labor

6011
06:20:56,940 --> 06:20:58,240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspection.

6012
06:20:59,140 --> 06:20:59,860
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Mismo na pong

6013
06:20:59,860 --> 06:21:00,860
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: labor sekretary natin

6014
06:21:00,860 --> 06:21:01,640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na nagsabi na

6015
06:21:01,640 --> 06:21:02,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 447

6016
06:21:02,880 --> 06:21:04,160
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: out of the

6017
06:21:04,160 --> 06:21:05,680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 1,210 labor

6018
06:21:05,680 --> 06:21:06,620
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspectors lang

6019
06:21:06,620 --> 06:21:08,100
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang talagang gumagawa

6020
06:21:08,100 --> 06:21:08,860
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng labor

6021
06:21:08,860 --> 06:21:10,020
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspection

6022
06:21:10,020 --> 06:21:10,960
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa mga kumpanya.

6023
06:21:11,460 --> 06:21:12,580
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sa proposed budget po

6024
06:21:12,580 --> 06:21:15,740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na 877.34 million

6025
06:21:15,740 --> 06:21:16,700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: for labor

6026
06:21:16,700 --> 06:21:17,200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: laws compliance,

6027
06:21:17,940 --> 06:21:18,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ilan po ang

6028
06:21:18,420 --> 06:21:19,140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mahire na

6029
06:21:19,140 --> 06:21:20,560
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: labor inspectors

6030
06:21:20,560 --> 06:21:21,360
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: for next year,

6031
06:21:21,720 --> 06:21:22,260
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker,

6032
06:21:22,400 --> 06:21:22,900
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: good sponsor.

6033
06:21:26,200 --> 06:21:27,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Based dun sa data

6034
06:21:27,280 --> 06:21:27,920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang binanggit po,

6035
06:21:28,000 --> 06:21:28,500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

6036
06:21:28,600 --> 06:21:29,220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

6037
06:21:29,460 --> 06:21:30,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung ilan yung mahahire,

6038
06:21:31,140 --> 06:21:31,480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is so

6039
06:21:51,300 --> 06:21:51,820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

6040
06:21:51,940 --> 06:21:52,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

6041
06:21:52,700 --> 06:21:53,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pasensya na po

6042
06:21:53,240 --> 06:21:53,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: for the delay.

6043
06:21:54,460 --> 06:21:55,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But based dun sa ating

6044
06:21:55,840 --> 06:21:57,840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: datos na nakahawak dito

6045
06:21:57,840 --> 06:21:58,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining sa labor

6046
06:21:58,640 --> 06:21:59,300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: inspectors,

6047
06:21:59,460 --> 06:22:00,120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: which is totaling,

6048
06:22:00,420 --> 06:22:01,500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun po sa binabanggit na

6049
06:22:01,500 --> 06:22:04,720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 876 million,

6050
06:22:04,900 --> 06:22:05,520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay meron po tayong

6051
06:22:05,520 --> 06:22:07,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 1,046 na

6052
06:22:07,640 --> 06:22:08,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: labor inspectors,

6053
06:22:09,100 --> 06:22:09,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

6054
06:22:09,620 --> 06:22:10,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague.

6055
06:22:10,480 --> 06:22:11,340
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Additional labor

6056
06:22:11,340 --> 06:22:12,060
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspectors?

6057
06:22:12,500 --> 06:22:12,620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: No.

6058
06:22:13,200 --> 06:22:13,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Existing po,

6059
06:22:14,060 --> 06:22:15,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: filled up.

6060
06:22:16,420 --> 06:22:16,940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Filled up?

6061
06:22:17,260 --> 06:22:17,620
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po.

6062
06:22:18,280 --> 06:22:18,820
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kasi po,

6063
06:22:18,880 --> 06:22:19,760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang nabanggit na ating

6064
06:22:19,760 --> 06:22:20,680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: labor sekretary,

6065
06:22:20,780 --> 06:22:21,760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: only 447

6066
06:22:21,760 --> 06:22:23,680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: out of 1,210.

6067
06:22:24,180 --> 06:22:24,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So ano naman po

6068
06:22:24,880 --> 06:22:25,520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang plano natin,

6069
06:22:25,620 --> 06:22:25,780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: doon sa

6070
06:22:25,780 --> 06:22:27,600
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: remaining 763

6071
06:22:27,600 --> 06:22:28,400
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: out of that

6072
06:22:28,400 --> 06:22:30,040
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 210 labor inspectors

6073
06:22:30,040 --> 06:22:30,800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa hindi actively

6074
06:22:30,800 --> 06:22:31,580
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: nag-inspect.

6075
06:22:34,640 --> 06:22:35,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

6076
06:22:35,660 --> 06:22:36,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

6077
06:22:37,440 --> 06:22:38,660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to refresh everything,

6078
06:22:39,300 --> 06:22:40,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung current plantila po

6079
06:22:40,540 --> 06:22:42,180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is 1,210.

6080
06:22:43,460 --> 06:22:44,420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And yung binagit ko po

6081
06:22:44,420 --> 06:22:44,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kanina,

6082
06:22:44,900 --> 06:22:46,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: so 1,210,

6083
06:22:46,300 --> 06:22:47,000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: you will less

6084
06:22:47,000 --> 06:22:49,060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa 1,046.

6085
06:22:49,760 --> 06:22:50,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So if minus

6086
06:22:50,440 --> 06:22:51,880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 1,046 to

6087
06:22:51,880 --> 06:22:53,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 1,210,

6088
06:22:54,080 --> 06:22:54,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: eh hindi po

6089
06:22:54,540 --> 06:22:55,240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 700 plus.

6090
06:22:55,440 --> 06:22:55,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So,

6091
06:22:55,460 --> 06:22:55,760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi po

6092
06:22:55,780 --> 06:22:56,600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ilan na lamang po

6093
06:22:56,600 --> 06:22:57,400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung kailangan

6094
06:22:57,400 --> 06:22:58,200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: punan.

6095
06:22:59,420 --> 06:23:00,900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Na-fill up na.

6096
06:23:03,200 --> 06:23:03,860
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po.

6097
06:23:04,080 --> 06:23:05,000
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So ma-fill up po

6098
06:23:05,000 --> 06:23:05,440
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: natin to

6099
06:23:05,440 --> 06:23:06,380
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: given the proposed

6100
06:23:06,380 --> 06:23:07,740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: budget for 2027.

6101
06:23:10,840 --> 06:23:11,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

6102
06:23:11,400 --> 06:23:13,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: additional information,

6103
06:23:14,080 --> 06:23:14,540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

6104
06:23:14,640 --> 06:23:15,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

6105
06:23:15,320 --> 06:23:15,740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi yung

6106
06:23:15,740 --> 06:23:16,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: binanggit niyo po

6107
06:23:16,860 --> 06:23:17,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kanin datos

6108
06:23:17,380 --> 06:23:18,640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: was ngayon na

6109
06:23:18,640 --> 06:23:19,320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito yung nga po

6110
06:23:19,320 --> 06:23:20,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pinaka-updated

6111
06:23:20,160 --> 06:23:20,980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ngayon

6112
06:23:20,980 --> 06:23:21,780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at the time

6113
06:23:21,780 --> 06:23:22,340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as we speak.

6114
06:23:23,440 --> 06:23:24,140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So for the record,

6115
06:23:24,220 --> 06:23:24,620
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ano nga po

6116
06:23:24,620 --> 06:23:25,280
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ulit ang datos?

6117
06:23:25,280 --> 06:23:27,280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 1,046

6118
06:23:27,920 --> 06:23:30,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: labor inspectors.

6119
06:23:30,420 --> 06:23:30,560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

6120
06:23:30,860 --> 06:23:31,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: after this,

6121
06:23:31,580 --> 06:23:31,800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we can,

6122
06:23:32,240 --> 06:23:33,160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: if the good

6123
06:23:33,160 --> 06:23:36,460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: gentleman would,

6124
06:23:36,680 --> 06:23:37,260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we will give you

6125
06:23:37,260 --> 06:23:38,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the exact data

6126
06:23:38,360 --> 06:23:39,680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para on the chart po

6127
06:23:39,680 --> 06:23:40,360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: per region

6128
06:23:40,360 --> 06:23:41,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na nakalagay dito

6129
06:23:41,860 --> 06:23:42,860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and with totals

6130
06:23:42,860 --> 06:23:43,700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dito po

6131
06:23:43,700 --> 06:23:44,440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa aming chart

6132
06:23:44,440 --> 06:23:45,380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kasalukuyang

6133
06:23:45,380 --> 06:23:45,960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hawak.

6134
06:23:47,000 --> 06:23:47,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po.

6135
06:23:47,540 --> 06:23:48,220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Marami pa po

6136
06:23:48,220 --> 06:23:49,000
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sana akong tanong

6137
06:23:49,000 --> 06:23:50,000
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pero nangako po ako

6138
06:23:50,000 --> 06:23:50,760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that I'll keep it

6139
06:23:50,760 --> 06:23:51,520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at 10 minutes

6140
06:23:51,520 --> 06:23:52,940
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at unholy na po

6141
06:23:52,940 --> 06:23:53,800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: talaga yung hour.

6142
06:23:54,280 --> 06:23:54,640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So,

6143
06:23:54,640 --> 06:23:55,240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: with,

6144
06:23:55,280 --> 06:23:55,740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: with no other

6145
06:23:55,740 --> 06:23:56,940
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: member of the

6146
06:23:56,940 --> 06:23:57,440
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: minority

6147
06:23:57,440 --> 06:23:58,520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that wish to

6148
06:23:58,520 --> 06:23:59,600
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: propound questions

6149
06:23:59,600 --> 06:24:00,180
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: to the Department

6150
06:24:00,180 --> 06:24:00,700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of Labor,

6151
06:24:01,080 --> 06:24:01,780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I move to

6152
06:24:01,780 --> 06:24:02,320
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: terminate

6153
06:24:02,320 --> 06:24:03,140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: the period

6154
06:24:03,140 --> 06:24:04,040
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of interpellation

6155
06:24:04,040 --> 06:24:04,700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the budget

6156
06:24:04,700 --> 06:24:05,320
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the Department

6157
06:24:05,320 --> 06:24:06,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the Department of Labor and Employment,

6158
06:24:06,420 --> 06:24:07,240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: TESDA

6159
06:24:07,240 --> 06:24:07,960
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: and its attached

6160
06:24:07,960 --> 06:24:08,520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: agencies.

6161
06:24:09,080 --> 06:24:10,160
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House

6162
06:24:10,160 --> 06:24:10,480
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: say?

6163
06:24:11,840 --> 06:24:12,680
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker,

6164
06:24:13,000 --> 06:24:13,680
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: on the part

6165
06:24:13,680 --> 06:24:14,580
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: of the majority,

6166
06:24:15,320 --> 06:24:15,860
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: we join

6167
06:24:15,860 --> 06:24:16,760
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: the minority

6168
06:24:16,760 --> 06:24:18,120
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: in the motion

6169
06:24:18,120 --> 06:24:19,160
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: to terminate

6170
06:24:19,160 --> 06:24:20,120
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: the interpellations

6171
06:24:20,120 --> 06:24:21,500
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: on the proposed

6172
06:24:21,500 --> 06:24:22,080
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: budget

6173
06:24:22,080 --> 06:24:23,520
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: of the Department

6174
06:24:23,520 --> 06:24:24,320
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: of Labor

6175
06:24:24,320 --> 06:24:25,120
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: and Employment

6176
06:24:25,280 --> 06:24:26,880
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: and its attached

6177
06:24:26,880 --> 06:24:27,440
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: agencies,

6178
06:24:27,440 --> 06:24:28,440
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker.

6179
06:24:28,440 --> 06:24:29,080
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: So, move,

6180
06:24:29,080 --> 06:24:29,680
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker.

6181
06:24:29,680 --> 06:24:30,760
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion

6182
06:24:30,760 --> 06:24:31,320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: to terminate

6183
06:24:31,320 --> 06:24:32,080
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the interpellations

6184
06:24:32,080 --> 06:24:32,720
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the proposed

6185
06:24:32,720 --> 06:24:34,120
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: budget of the Department

6186
06:24:34,120 --> 06:24:35,320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of Labor and Employment

6187
06:24:35,320 --> 06:24:36,120
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: including its

6188
06:24:36,120 --> 06:24:37,440
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: attached agencies.

6189
06:24:37,440 --> 06:24:38,040
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any

6190
06:24:38,040 --> 06:24:39,320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: objection?

6191
06:24:39,320 --> 06:24:40,520
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none.

6192
06:24:40,520 --> 06:24:41,320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations

6193
06:24:41,320 --> 06:24:42,000
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the proposed

6194
06:24:42,000 --> 06:24:43,440
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: budget of said agency

6195
06:24:43,440 --> 06:24:45,600
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby terminated.

6196
06:24:45,600 --> 06:24:46,560
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

6197
06:24:46,560 --> 06:24:48,120
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker,

6198
06:24:48,120 --> 06:24:49,040
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: I move that we

6199
06:24:49,040 --> 06:24:50,000
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: suspend

6200
06:24:50,000 --> 06:24:51,440
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: session

6201
06:24:51,440 --> 06:24:52,840
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: until later

6202
06:24:52,840 --> 06:24:54,640
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: 10 a.m.

6203
06:24:54,640 --> 06:24:56,560
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: September 17.

6204
06:24:56,560 --> 06:24:57,800
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: So, move, Madam Speaker.

6205
06:24:57,800 --> 06:24:59,000
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection?

6206
06:24:59,000 --> 06:25:00,000
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none.

6207
06:25:00,000 --> 06:25:01,640
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended

6208
06:25:01,640 --> 06:25:06,560
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: until September 17

6209
06:25:06,560 --> 06:25:09,280
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: at 10 in the morning.

6210
06:25:09,280 --> 06:25:10,720
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended.