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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: No other member from the minority to interpolate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the consideration of budget of DAR for fiscal year 2027.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So moved, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Maraming salamat po, Majority Leader.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the DAR.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a joint motion from the majority and the minority to terminate the period of sponsorship, debate, and interpolation insofar as the proposed budget of the Department of Agrarian Reform is concerned.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Any objection? Hearing none, said motion is carried.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The period of debate, the sponsorship, debate, and interpolation of the proposed budget of the Department of Agrarian Reform is carried.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The period of debate, the sponsorship, debate, and interpolation of the Department of Agrarian Reform is hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Madam Speaker, before we move on to the next proposed budget, may we recognize the guests of Assistant Majority Leader, Honorable Daphne Lagon, Congresswoman of the 6th District of Cebu.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: They are from the Municipal and Barangay Officials from the Municipality of Consolacion, Cebu, led by Mayor Teresa Pepito-Alegado, and Vice Mayor Mariana.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Johannes Pepito.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: They are Mayor Teresita Pepito-Alegado, Vice Mayor Johannes Alegado, Kabangahan Barangay Captain Edwin Menoza, N-Council, Kansanga Barangay Captain Peter Cabillada, N-Council, Kasili Barangay Captain Eddie Alilin, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Danglag Barangay Captain Claude Dualdo Ibon-Arendez.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Garing Barangay Captain and ABC President Wesley Alimorin, N-Council, Ugan Barangay Captain Tony Pepito, N-Council, Lamac Barangay Captain Nestos Maglasang, N-Council, Renipga Barangay Captain Russell Balaba, N-Council, Nangka Barangay Captain Neil Congso, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Ponoy Poy Barangay Captain Balaba, N-Council, Panas Barangay Captain Nelson Cutab, N-Council, Pitogo Barangay Captain Alan Claire Madhos, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Poblasyon Occidental Barangay Captain Alary Alegado, N-Council, Poblasyon Oriental Barangay Captain John Hanyel Abinales, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Polog Barangay Captain Glenn Royang, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Pulpogan Barangay Captain Avelino Bihag, Tayod Barangay Fek Kuyos, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Tilhaong Barangay Captain Reggie Lutuaw,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Tolo-Tolo Barangay Captain Earl Anthony Tapayan, N-Council,

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Tugbongan Barangay Captain Paz Barroso, N-Council.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the guests of the Honorable Daphne Lagon,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: ang pinakagwapan na congresswoman, Karong Adlawa.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Karong Adlawa, ha?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Of course, the municipal and barangay officials from the Municipality of Consolacion,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Cebu-headed by Mayor Teresa Pepito Alegado.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Mayor, mayang gabiin inyong tanan.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: You are the voice, the inspiration, kamuang haligi o kusog sa kongreso.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Daghan kayong salamat sa inyong pagbisita.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: God bless you always.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Moment of suspension, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Human Rights.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Commission on Human Rights, namely the Chairperson, Attorney Richard P. Palpal-latoc, Commissioners Attorney Beda A. Epres,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Attorney Faydah M. Dumarpa, Justice Monina A. Zenarosa, Judge Maria Amifaith S. Fider-Reyes, together with Executive Director Attorney Jacqueline Ann C. de Guia and Human Rights Violations Victims' Memorial Commission Acting Executive Director Lawrence Charles E. Salazar.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and staff of the Commission on Human Rights. Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate, and I move to recognize the sponsor, Vice Chair Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez of Alona Partylist.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The period of sponsorship and debate is now open, and we recognize the sponsor

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The budget of the Commission on Human Rights, in the person of Vice Chairperson of Appropriations Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez of Alona Partylist. You may now proceed.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues in the House of Representatives, magandang gabi po sa ating lahat. I rise today to sponsor the fiscal year 2027 budget of the Commission on Human Rights, an independent constitutional institution trusted with protecting the dignity and fundamental rights of every Filipino.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, allow me to put the CHR budget in perspective through one figure: 0.02%. Out of proposed 7.2 trillion national budget, only PHP 1.273 billion, or around 0.02%, is provided for the CHR under the National Expenditure Program. The Commission proposed 2.749 billion.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Even if Congress were to provide the entire amount, it would only represent around 0.04% of the national budget, from 0.02% to 0.04%. Napakaliit po ng hinihingi ng CHR, but it can make a meaningful difference in its ability to investigate human rights violations, assist victims, prevent abuse, and protect the rights of our people.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We cannot continue asking the CHR to do more without giving it the resources necessary to fulfill its constitutional mandate. The CHR is not an adversary of government. Kakampi po natin ang CHR sa mabuting pamamahala. A stronger and independent CHR strengthens accountability, protects the vulnerable, and helps build public trust in our institution. Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 0.1% is a modest investment for our institution mandated to safeguard the rights of 100% of our Filipino people. For this reason, I respectfully urge this august chamber to support the approval and augmentation of the fiscal 2027 budget of the Commission on Human Rights. Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, and I am now ready to take questions from our distinguished

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: colleagues.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist is now recognized for her interpolation.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, the Commission on Human Rights Family. Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Unang katanungan ko po, would the Commission agree that the credibility of the Philippines' human rights institutions is itself an important component of the country's credibility in the international community?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: The recent failure of our country's bid for a non-permanent seat in the United Nations Security Council,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: losing

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the Asia-Pacific contest to Kyrgyzstan in June 2026 has been interpreted by some as a human rights warning.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: In fact, prominent international human rights organizations including the International Coalition for Human Rights in the Philippines

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: have publicly interpreted this electoral setback as a direct reflection of ongoing concerns regarding our domestic human rights record,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: especially during the Duterte administration.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Does the Sponsor share this view?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What role exactly did this unresolved human rights violation, especially in the past administration, play in this outcome?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: one of the Commission's significant accomplishments has been the implementation of the Task Force on Zero Backlog Cases,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: which substantially reduced the number of pending cases and helped clean up and reconcile our case data.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: In particular,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the Commission has identified 493 cases for reinvestigation in 2024,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and the Task Force has directed of 289 cases reinvestigated in 2025.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Of these 289 reinvestigated cases, 140 cases are currently for disposition by the TF.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The Task Force also successfully reviewed and evaluated these cases identified for reinvestigation,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and has begun drafting the corresponding resolution for disposition.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: This process remains ongoing, with the Commission committed to completing the disposition of these cases by the end of the year, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung mga binanggit niyo po ay mga accomplishments po ba yan ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: But I was actually trying to find out if, when I asked a while ago,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: if the Human Rights Record of the Philippines, as seen by the international community,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: had something to do with our lost bid to the UNSC,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and to which you said in the affirmative,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang gusto ko pong malaman nga,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano po itong mga unresolved cases in the past administration that you think ay nakakapag-contribute doon sa paningin na iyon ng international community?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, Representative Montes,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for example po, ang ating pong mga naka-accomplish po ay katulad po ng red tagging and EJA.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay, thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung mga ganyan po, nabanggit niyo po yung mga red tagging EJK,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: has the Commission

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: examined

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Whether these concerns ng international community, consistent po ba yan sa findings ng Human Rights Commission?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Po, ano po yung iniisip ng international community?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yan din po ba ang paningin ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay po. Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Can CHR identify programs, especially in the 2027 budget

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: that have demonstrated measurable improvements in compliance with human rights standards?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano po yung mga programang nakapaloob dyan sa 2027 budget natin na magpapakita o magpapatunay na meron nga from the past administration, meron po tayong improvement ngayon?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: A human rights-centered national protection response mechanism.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: It integrates

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: early warning, victim supports, and rapid response mechanism.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, meron po tayo ng mga tinatawag po nating programa, katulad po ng Bantay Karapatang Pantao,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: which detect, monitor, and prevent human rights risks through data and intelligence.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kalinga Karapatang Pantao provides holistic, victim-centered support, protection, and recovery services.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At syempre po, meron din po tayong Tugon Karapatang Pantao, which responds quickly, coordinates,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: intervention, and ensure protection and accountability.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Let me move on to my next question.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Just this morning, during the budget deliberations of the Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the Sponsor, Congressman Marcy Cudoro, made mention of the necessity to include the Commission on Human Rights

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: as a part of the Board of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If ever we include the CHR in the DDB, of course, by way of an amendment to the law creating the DDB,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: how do you envision your role in shaping drug-related policy?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, alam niyo po, mandato po ng CHR, lahat po ng karapatang pantao ay lagi po natin ang gagampanan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero doon po sa, kanina po sa Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: siyempre po, more than willing po na makisama, makisuporta ang CHR,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: at magkaroon po kami ng sarili natin position paper sa lahat po ng mga cases na drug-related po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Actually, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: what the DDB, what the sponsor of the DDB budget really wanted was to include the CHR

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: in the board as to help in formulating policies, kasi policymaking po yung Dangerous Drugs Board,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to help in the formulation of policies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, alam po natin naging issue yung mga EJK, mga drugs in the past.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, I think it really is necessary to include the CHR there.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, halimbawa po, kasi I'm looking at, I'm willing to sponsor a bill tungkol po dyan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I'm looking at, for instance, in strengthening oversight sa human rights in drugs enforcement strategies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano ang pwedeng maitulong ng CHR in that regard?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Okay. Sagutin ko po muna yung unang question nyo po ulit, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The DDB, no. The DDB has not included.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The DDB has not engaged with CHR, but the CHR is more willing to be an observer po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: With regards po sa drug-related po, CHR proposes that drug use to be treated as a public health issue.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kasi po, drug use is currently being over-criminalized where users who need services to address their dependence or use are instead treated as criminals and jails.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Drug cases contribute to more than 70% of the jails.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, sa lahat po ng mga pinupuntahan po ng CHR, Madam Chair, 70% po ang mga nakakulong po sa ating mga PDLs po natin.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yeah. What you said was as observer. Is that correct? Did I hear you right?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi po, hindi po sang-ayon na maging permanent seat sa board yung CHR.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi kung ang pagbabasehan po natin,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nung kung nga po una, kung naka-apekto yung mga EJK, mga problema ng human rights violations doon sa drugs,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: hindi po ba dapat nandodon din ang CHR?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi kung may mga usapin po tayo ng paglabag ng human rights doon sa mga biktima ng mga EJKs.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, ulitin po namin, we cannot because we have to maintain our independence po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ibig sabihin po, kung sakasakali, your participation would only be limited to being an observer

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and not contributing to the policies of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We can contribute po. We can contribute po, Madam Chair, but we cannot sit as a regular member of the board, as an independent body.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, yan po yung mandato sa atin ng konstitusyon.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. Naiintindihan po natin yun, pero parte po din ng trabaho.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Human rights ng CHR ang pagprotekta sa mga vulnerable grupo, katulad ng mga kabataan,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and especially women, because the CHR has a gender—is the gender ombud.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Now, these people, yung mga youth, yung mga women, sila usually ang nabibiktima.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang karapatan nila ay nayuyurakan, natatapakan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, tungkulin ng CHR, then na maprotektahan sila.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, how do we reconcile now this mandate and this duty?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If you are saying na hindi yan mandato po ng CHR?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, kung Montes, I'm with you sa karapatan po ng lahat ng ating mga vulnerable sectors,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: but syempre po, CHR is not a part of the executive, but we can monitor and we are the advisor of the government.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay, thank you so much, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor.

asr-000173
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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang sa akin lang po, it's also a matter of...

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00:26:22.180 --> 00:26:25.900
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: you know, balancing security and rights in policymaking.

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00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.380
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If the CHR does not see it that way,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: then perhaps there are other ways for which CHR can be able to contribute to policies

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: that affect human rights in the issue of drugs.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: CHR seats as observed in all interagency bodies,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: but it is also an activity...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: It is also an activity for which CHR can participate in awarding recommendations to different agencies.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: If that being so, Mr. Chair, kung nakaupo pala talaga doon,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano po ang naging contribution ng CHR noong mga panahon na may mga aligasyon ng paglabag ng karapatang pantao

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa mga tokhang, sa mga EJ case, and all,

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00:27:16.800 --> 00:27:21.800
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na naging sanhi kung bakit napasama yung ating iman,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kahit sa international community.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We are having our undertaking its own investigations.

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00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:41.480
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So lahat po ng cases na nagkakaroon po tayo being forwarded po sa CHR,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: unang-una po tinatanggap po natin yan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Nagkakaroon po tayo ng investigation,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: at syempre po, hanggang doon lamang po ang ating mandato,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: we cannot file cases.

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00:27:52.180 --> 00:27:56.920
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero we can endorse, recommend sa mga different agencies po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Now let me move on.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I was just exploring the possibility based on the pronouncements of Congressman Teodoro

asr-000197
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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: during the budget deliberation this morning.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So let me move on to another topic.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Recently, the CHR published...

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I would like to emphasize that it provides free information, education, and campaign or IEC materials

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00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:31.000
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to individuals and organizations to promote human rights,

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00:28:31.120 --> 00:28:35.200
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: particularly among vulnerable, marginalized, and disadvantaged sectors.

asr-000203
00:28:35.820 --> 00:28:40.700
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May I ask the CHR, does the Commission specifically maintain IEC materials

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: on the protection of women and violence, discrimination, harassment,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and other violations of human rights?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, yes po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Dire-direcho po ang ating...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: IEC materials information sa ating pong komisyon.

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00:28:57.320 --> 00:29:02.740
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. Itong mga materials na ito, where do they exist?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Online po ba?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: O are they distributed in far flung barangays, digital materials po lang ito?

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00:29:11.120 --> 00:29:15.320
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because sa pagkakaalam ko po, parang online na, no?

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00:29:15.320 --> 00:29:18.620
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, both physical and online po.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Available po yan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So may mga distribution din.

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00:29:22.020 --> 00:29:22.820
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Channels tayo.

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00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:24.860
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How do we distribute it so that...

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00:29:24.860 --> 00:29:26.500
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po. Nagkakaroon po tayong...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, meron pong mga visitations sa various organizations,

asr-000220
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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: sa ating pong mga barangays, municipality,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: na umiikot po ang ating pong komisyon.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. Opo.

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00:29:38.980 --> 00:29:43.480
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How much po of your 2027 budget is allocated for the production,

asr-000224
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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: printing, and dissemination of these materials?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Magkano po?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang...

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nakapaloob po.

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00:29:52.020 --> 00:29:53.600
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo. Sa 2027 budget nila.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, it's P94,643,000 ang aming proposed for 2027.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Out of the P94,000,000, magkano ang halaga specifically targeting women?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Out of the P94,000,000, ilan po doon ang halagang specifically nakatarget sa production of materials for women po?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: For women?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Opo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Naka-lump sum po siya, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So wala pong na-specific for women, for children; lump sum po siya para sa lahat po ng sectors.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kasi nga po, Madam Speaker, medyo maliit po ang allocation po natin para sa buong Pilipinas po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: But I asked a while ago if there were materials specifically for,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: addressing violence against women, and meron po.

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00:31:03.580 --> 00:31:07.380
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ibig sabihin po, ang nilalabas niyong materials, general na po yun.

asr-000242
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:13.620
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Walang specific IEC material na para lang sa, that addresses gender violence.

asr-000243
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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Meron po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So out of this yun po sana ang gusto kong itanong, kung magkano, and ano na lang po siguro, doon sa allocation na yun,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ano po ang target natin na maabot ng mga kababaihan?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Half of our population, 50% is women, ano po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ano po, maliit po ang budget ninyo, paano po natin maaabot o masasaklaw ang karamihan ng ating mga kababaihan?

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Lalo na po yung mga nasa kanayunan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, ang aming pong GAD budget for 2027 ay 77 million pesos.

asr-000251
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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And doon po yun napupunta?

asr-000252
00:31:58.460 --> 00:31:58.940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po.

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00:31:59.360 --> 00:31:59.600
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Anyway, I still have a lot of questions but I committed to squeezing everything in.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So siguro, pang huli na lamang po, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nais ko na lamang pong ipahayag na ang kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa kapakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan o 4K

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ay kaisa ng human rights.

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00:32:29.360 --> 00:32:39.360
Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Commission on Human Rights na ipagtangkol at isulong ang karapatang pantao sa harap ng malaking hamon na tugunan ang mga problema ng human rights

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa ating bansa, nais din nating hikayatin ng CHR na palawakin ang saklaw ng kanilang trabaho, patibayin ang pagganap ng tungkulin

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at tiyakin na ang bawat pisong ipinagkakaloob ng taong bayan ay tinutumbasan ng pananagutan at kongkretong resulta.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa ganitong paraan,

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: maipapakita natin na ang pondo ay tunay na giging proteksyon at katarungan para sa mamamayan.

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Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor. Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: [unclear] Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Antonio L.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Tinio of ACT Teacher Partylist.

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00:33:32.840 --> 00:33:38.860
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Antonio Tinio of ACT Teacher Partylist is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Salamat po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, ang tanong ko po ay kaugnay sa drug war, sa drug war ng nakaraang administrasyon ni dating Pangulong Duterte.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung extrajudicial killing.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At yung pagpaslang ng libu-libong mga kababayan nating Pilipino.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isang malaking tagumpay po para sa naghahangad ng justisya, sa mga naghahangad ng justisya sa ating lipunan,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga biktima ng extrajudicial killing sa kanilang mga pamilyang naiwan,

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00:34:24.460 --> 00:34:28.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pagkaka-aresto.

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00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:38.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At paglilitis kay dating Pangulong Duterte sa International Criminal Court.

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00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:40.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So mahalagang tagumpay po yun.

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00:34:41.620 --> 00:34:50.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam natin, hindi natatapos ang pagpapanagot kay Pangulong Duterte.

asr-000279
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:57.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bagaman siya ang, tama lang, siya bilang Pangulo, siya ang pinakamalaking isda.

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00:34:57.640 --> 00:34:58.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa...

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00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-anap na crimes against humanity.

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00:35:05.080 --> 00:35:12.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam din natin na yung ICC nag-issue na ng warrant laban sa kanyang kanang kamay.

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00:35:14.080 --> 00:35:20.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung dati niyang PNP chief naging senador, ngayon ay nagtatago sa warrant,

asr-000284
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:26.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sen. Bato de la Rosa, at sinasabi na mayroon pang ibang mga warrant na may issue.

asr-000285
00:35:28.060 --> 00:35:29.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero alam din natin,

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00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:40.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na yung accountability para sa mga pagpaslang na iyan ay hindi limitado sa mga nasa pinakataas.

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00:35:41.940 --> 00:35:51.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung chain of command at yung dugo ng extrajudicial killings ay mula sa taas,

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00:35:52.180 --> 00:35:57.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dadalo yan sa hanggang sa panggitna, sa antas na panggitna hanggang sa pinakababa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

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00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:05.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa mga aktual na mga opisyal at rank and file ng PNP, among others,

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00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:08.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na aktual na nagpatupad,

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00:36:08.680 --> 00:36:09.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung mga inutos sa taas,

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00:36:10.640 --> 00:36:12.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung aktual na mga pumatay.

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00:36:12.220 --> 00:36:25.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So kaya po napakahalaga na sa loob ng ating bansa at sa pangunguna ng ating mga institusyon

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay magpatuloy ang trabaho na...

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00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:37.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng pag-iimbestiga at pagpapanagot sa lahat ng naging sangkot sa extrajudicial killings

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00:36:37.860 --> 00:36:39.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ngalan ng peking drug war na ito.

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00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:40.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaugnay nun ng ang isa sa mga institusyon na inaasahan natin na magsagawa at magtuloy

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa napakahalagang gawaing ito ay ang Commission on Human Rights.

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00:36:58.280 --> 00:36:58.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? At...

asr-000302
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:12.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last year ay nagpahayag ang Commission on Human Rights na nagbukas sila ng imbestigasyon,

asr-000303
00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:22.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: review and investigation of several hundred mga cases of drug war killings.

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00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po bang for the record ay mabanggit lang

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00:37:27.600 --> 00:37:28.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilan po yung mga...

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00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:36.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kabuo ang kaso na sinimulang investigahan muli ng Commission on Human Rights?

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00:37:40.740 --> 00:37:50.400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, in particular, the Commission has identified 493 cases for reinvestigation in 2024

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and the task force has directed of 289 cases reinvestigated in 2025.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Of the...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Of these 289 reinvestigated cases, 140 cases are currently for disposition by the task force.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The task force has also successfully reviewed and evaluated these cases identified for reinvestigation

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and has begun drafting the corresponding resolution for disposition.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, this process remains ongoing with the Commission committed to completing the disposition

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of these cases by the end of this year.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun lang po ang gusto natin ay makuha yung update.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for 2024, nabanggit niyo po ilang kaso?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 493 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 493 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos for 20...

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 25?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 25.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 289 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 289 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sa 289 cases na yan, 140 po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 120 cases was transmitted and had undergone preliminary evaluation by the EGK task force.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, 120 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, yung for resolution na po, pending resolution ay ilan po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito na po yun.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ito na po yun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yung 120 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 120 po?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 120?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in a communication to this representation, the chair of CHR, Richard Palpalatok, mentioned

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that the CHR would provide an official report on the 140 po ang sabi rito, 140 drug war-related

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cases for disposition slash resolution.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, which figure?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Which figure should we consider as official?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 120 or 140?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: As of today po, 140 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 140 po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 40, hindi 20.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 140 cases po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayun.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-000352
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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, it is indeed 140 cases.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun lang po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang gusto lang po nating marinig ay...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na at least by the end of the year, of the over 600 cases mentioned, merong for disposition

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na 140 by the end of the year.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We will expect that update.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, ano po yung mangyayari dun sa natitira?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga 2024 cases at saka yung iba pang 2025?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po?

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00:40:57.020 --> 00:40:58.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang mangyayari sa mga iyon?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Dire-direcho pa rin po yung investigation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dire-direcho pa rin po yung investigation.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, makakaasa po tayo na bukod dito sa 140 na target na ma-resolve at magbibigay ng

asr-000366
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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ulat ang CHR kaugnay nito ay tuloy-tuloy pa rin po yung investigation dun sa remaining

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cases na nabanggit nyo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Tama po kayo.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, again, we thank the sponsor for putting on record this commitment of the CHR.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, we will expect, of course, through the Committee on Appropriations, we will expect

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the report on the disposition of the 140 cases.

asr-000375
00:41:49.720 --> 00:41:55.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Katulad po ng sinabi natin, well, CHR po ang isa sa mga natatanging

asr-000376
00:41:57.020 --> 00:42:00.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: institusyon sa ating lipunan na nagtutuloy

asr-000377
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:12.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pa rin ng imbestigasyon sa extrajudicial killings during the Duterte, under the Duterte

asr-000378
00:42:12.060 --> 00:42:15.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Administration in the name of the War on Drugs.

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00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:22.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napakahalaga po na ituloy ang laban na ito para sa justisya.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, muli, maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madaming salamat po sa sponsor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At pagbati po sa CHR.

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00:42:29.220 --> 00:42:29.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you.

asr-000384
00:42:31.120 --> 00:42:31.980
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Kaka Bag-ao of the Lone District of Dinagat

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Island to interpolate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative from the Lone District of Dinagat Island, Representative Kaka Bag-ao is now recognized

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: for her interpolation.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Thank you very much.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Madam Speaker.

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00:42:57.020 --> 00:43:04.480
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Madam Speaker and Madam Sponsor, may ikli lang po para umabotay sa DOLE.

asr-000392
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Last year po, sa budget hearing last year, parang halos kami lahat sa minority ang haba ng

asr-000393
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: debate namin para paglaban yung budget ng CHR.

asr-000394
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kasama po ako doon.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kailang nalulungkot ako sa ilan sa mga namin.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Ang nababalitaan ko, babahagyan ko lang po kayo ng ilan at sana po ay masagot nyo ito

asr-000397
00:43:33.260 --> 00:43:39.840
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: kasi ang pinagagalingan ko din ay hindi lang regular na text message, kundi conversations

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: mula sa human rights organizations, sa inyong mga constituencies, sa human rights work at medyo may

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: pagka-dismaya po sa performance.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Performance ng CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Nalo na na pinakamahalagang batas ito para sa, ahensya ito para sa ating lahat.

asr-000402
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Umpisahan ko na lang po.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So, yung term ng, term ng en banc ay seven years at mula nang mabuo ito noong 1987

asr-000404
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ay nagkaroon na ng anim na en banc groups.

asr-000405
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Lahat po kayo.

asr-000406
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Mula kay CHR at sa buong en banc ay appointed for a seven-year term without reappointment

asr-000407
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: until 2029.

asr-000408
00:44:35.680 --> 00:44:41.860
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: In 2027, year five of seven na po ng inyong termino bilang en banc.

asr-000409
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Dalawang taon na lang, tapos na yung termino.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kaya ang tanong ko po, Madam Sponsor, ay Madam Chair, ay Madam Speaker, ay by the end

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: of their term in 2029, ano talaga ang target?

asr-000412
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Ang target na may iwan ng en banc.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Specifically po, marami po ang tanong at tingin ko sana po masagot natin ito. Marami po ang tanong mula po sa ibang human rights organizations na walang strategic plan.

asr-000414
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Ang CHR from 2022 to 2025 na pinag-uusapan, ina-update, kahit nga po yung pinaka-strategic plan ay hindi makita ng mga tumutulong at kasama ninyo nagpapatupad ng mga CHR programs.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So, paano po daw nila manalaman kung yung 2027 budget ay nakahanay sa plano na ito?

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00:45:46.380 --> 00:45:59.620
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kung wala namang malinaw na presentation ng milestones, targets, at dalawang taon na lang ay matatapos na ang inyong termino tungkol sa strategic plan ng CHR.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pwede ho ba nyo akong bigyan ng kaliwanagan tungkol sa tanong na ito?

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: The Sixth Commission conducted its strategic planning in 2023 and issued its strategic plan.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Last November 29, 2023.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Last year po, the Sixth Commission held its midterm assessment and its strategic planning with the latest MTA and STRAT plan has already been approved and is due for cascading.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2027 thrusts and priorities: Human Rights Protection Program, continuing partnership and strengthening collaboration with key government agencies and other stakeholders.

asr-000424
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:50.080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Draft protocols for the conduct of investigation on journalist safety

asr-000425
00:46:50.080 --> 00:46:52.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and media freedom.

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00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:59.120
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Implementation of the expanded national monitoring mechanism and deployment of the Protection sa Karapatang Pantao program

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and its subprograms,

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Bantay Karapatang Pantao

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and Tugon Karapatang Pantao.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

asr-000431
00:47:19.380 --> 00:47:24.300
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero kung ganyan lang din naman ang laman ng inyong strategic plan,

asr-000432
00:47:25.080 --> 00:47:28.600
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: baka kailangan po talaga nating balikan ito paunawa lahat.

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00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:33.780
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kasi marami po akong kinonsulta din na human rights organization,

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00:47:33.780 --> 00:47:35.280
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: bakit may gano'ng assessment.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Siguro maaring may nakasulat sa papel, pero ibigyan ko lang din po kayo na example.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Halimbawa, dadagdagan ko lang po yung example ni Madam Sponsor

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00:47:49.140 --> 00:47:53.320
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: dun sa mga inaasahan ng mga human rights program.

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00:47:53.520 --> 00:48:01.080
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Halimbawa po inaasahan natin kagaya ng pag-review ng ating status sa ICC,

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00:48:01.900 --> 00:48:03.740
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: yung status quo.

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00:48:03.780 --> 00:48:08.300
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Ito po yung mga example.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Isang kongkretong example ka rin po,

asr-000442
00:48:10.640 --> 00:48:15.440
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: mahigit sampung specialist na ang nakaata sa CHR katulad na anti-torture law

asr-000443
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: and anti-forced disappearances law.

asr-000444
00:48:18.140 --> 00:48:22.460
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero maliban sa dalawang bilyon para sa Magna Carta of Women,

asr-000445
00:48:23.060 --> 00:48:27.680
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: halos lahat ng ito ay walang matinong line item

asr-000446
00:48:27.680 --> 00:48:33.280
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: at walang matinong target at work plan mula sa CHR.

asr-000447
00:48:33.780 --> 00:48:38.220
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Isa din kongkreto yung paghilom o yung healing intervention

asr-000448
00:48:38.220 --> 00:48:44.220
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: leading to optimum management program for victims of torture-enforced disappearances.

asr-000449
00:48:44.820 --> 00:48:52.660
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Isang batas na ang naging mayakda pa ay si former Representative Edsel Agman

asr-000450
00:48:52.660 --> 00:49:02.220
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: at Republic Act 10353 or the Anti-Enforced and Involuntary Disappearance Act of 2012.

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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Hindi naman.

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00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:04.320
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Hindi naman po natin.

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00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:11.300
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Gusto ko sabihin, kahit po sabihin natin marami tayong na lahat ng issue ay human rights issue,

asr-000455
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:16.880
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: alam natin na may pangangailangan na mag-streamline, mag-focus, tingnan talaga.

asr-000456
00:49:17.540 --> 00:49:22.840
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At kung babalikan ko ang definition sa pagkakaintindi ko kaano po ang mandate

asr-000457
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:31.480
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ng isang human rights institution ay sana ay mag-focus para sa mga civil and political rights issue resolution.

asr-000458
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:32.080
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So,

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00:49:32.080 --> 00:49:40.880
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ang pwede ko siguro po para hindi humaba ang debate tungkol dun sa meron, wala,

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00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:46.340
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ini-inform ang public, pinapatupad, kulang, hindi nalalagay yung inaasahan,

asr-000461
00:49:47.100 --> 00:49:48.840
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: pwede po ba ako humingi ng kopya,

asr-000462
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:57.720
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Mr. and Madam Sponsor ng work plan for 2027 ng CHR

asr-000463
00:49:57.720 --> 00:49:59.980
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: at yung sinasabi ninyong meron,

asr-000464
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Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: na meron kayong,

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00:50:02.080 --> 00:50:11.480
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: na-formulate na strategic plan bula sa Commission on Human Rights.

asr-000466
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:16.680
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Hindi ko na rin po po mababanggitin ang mga civil society organizations na nagpahatid ng liham na ito

asr-000467
00:50:17.180 --> 00:50:20.280
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: para sabihin sa inyo na sana po, no,

asr-000468
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:26.180
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: gaya ko po na aktibong nanginiwalang dapat laging mapondohan ang CHR

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00:50:26.780 --> 00:50:31.480
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: at ayokong laging nakabimbin kayo sa isang libong budget,

asr-000470
00:50:32.080 --> 00:50:33.380
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: kapiranggot na budget,

asr-000471
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:35.020
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: masakit may pakinggan yun.

asr-000472
00:50:35.680 --> 00:50:39.680
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero kung ang makikinig ko pong kwento bago ko po ako tatayo dito ay,

asr-000473
00:50:40.820 --> 00:50:43.800
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: mula dun sa mga nag-advocate din ng human rights,

asr-000474
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:51.820
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ay parang hindi sila masyadong tutuwa sa ugnayan.

asr-000475
00:50:52.820 --> 00:50:56.180
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At pagbibigay natin ang informasyon,

asr-000476
00:50:56.740 --> 00:51:00.600
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: hihiling na po ako at mag-commit po sana kayo agad sa akin ngayon,

asr-000477
00:51:00.600 --> 00:51:05.160
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: pwede ko ho bang mahingi yung 2022 to 2029 strategic plan?

asr-000478
00:51:05.780 --> 00:51:11.900
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pwede ko ho bang mahingi yung 2027 budget na nakahanay ang mga planong ito?

asr-000479
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:17.020
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Lalo na ang commitment na magbigay ng focus sa mga human rights program

asr-000480
00:51:17.020 --> 00:51:22.380
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: kagaya na anti-enforced disappearances act implementation.

asr-000481
00:51:23.380 --> 00:51:29.760
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At sana po yung mga hinihingi ng ibang organizations ay matugunan po natin,

asr-000482
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:30.580
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: hindi lang po.

asr-000483
00:51:30.600 --> 00:51:35.720
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Sa press release at Facebook conversations,

asr-000484
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:42.100
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: yun po, kung pwede ko bang mahingi ang ganong commitment na dalawa po,

asr-000485
00:51:42.240 --> 00:51:47.940
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: isang detalyado para sa 2027 at isang work plan nyo for [unclear]

asr-000486
00:51:47.940 --> 00:51:51.880
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: para sigurado kung hindi ako maghihintay ng press release na sagot sa tanong ko.

asr-000487
00:51:53.060 --> 00:51:54.700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you, Madam Chair.

asr-000488
00:51:54.700 --> 00:51:59.980
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We will provide the necessary documents po sa ating kasamahan.

asr-000489
00:52:00.600 --> 00:52:04.040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Regards po sa lahat po ng data na hinihingi po ninyo.

asr-000490
00:52:04.620 --> 00:52:08.200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And also po sa mga binanggit nyo po na unfunded laws,

asr-000491
00:52:08.620 --> 00:52:10.760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: wala po talagang kaukalang budget po ito.

asr-000492
00:52:11.180 --> 00:52:16.040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero ganun pa man, ay ginagawa po ng komisyon ang kanilang responsibilidad

asr-000493
00:52:16.040 --> 00:52:19.980
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: sa pamamagitan po ng pagbibigay nga po muna ng mga position papers.

asr-000494
00:52:19.980 --> 00:52:27.100
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, marami pong mga nakasulat na mga nagawang mga programs and projects ang komisyon.

asr-000495
00:52:27.620 --> 00:52:29.840
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pwede rin po namin itong ibigay si inyo.

asr-000496
00:52:30.600 --> 00:52:36.440
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Magkasamahan para meron din po kayong ma-report sa inyo pong mga civil society group.

asr-000497
00:52:36.860 --> 00:52:38.020
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero matanong ko lang,

asr-000498
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.740
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: humingi ba kayo ng pondo para mapondohan ang unfunded mandates na ito?

asr-000499
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:52.780
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kagaya ng enforced disappearances, anti-enforced disappearances law, anti-torture law?

asr-000500
00:52:53.240 --> 00:52:54.140
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Humingi po ba kayo?

asr-000501
00:52:54.820 --> 00:52:55.960
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Chair, yes po.

asr-000502
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, three consecutive years na po.

asr-000503
00:52:59.260 --> 00:53:00.420
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Since po nung 6 Committees.

asr-000504
00:53:00.600 --> 00:53:06.020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Commission conducted po, nag-request na po ang komisyon.

asr-000505
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.820
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Taon-taon po para po sa ating unfunded laws.

asr-000506
00:53:11.380 --> 00:53:16.460
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Specifically po sa anti-torture law and anti-enforced disappearances?

asr-000507
00:53:17.540 --> 00:53:19.080
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Yes po, Madam Speaker.

asr-000508
00:53:19.420 --> 00:53:21.840
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Siguro po kailangan natin, magkano pong hinihingi nyo?

asr-000509
00:53:22.020 --> 00:53:24.640
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At meron po ba kayong resibo doon sa paghingi ng pondong nyo?

asr-000510
00:53:25.980 --> 00:53:26.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: From last...

asr-000511
00:53:28.380 --> 00:53:29.580
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, yan po.

asr-000512
00:53:29.580 --> 00:53:38.260
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: I-present po namin doon sa budget presentation po natin during ating committee meeting from previous years po.

asr-000513
00:53:39.560 --> 00:53:45.980
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Siguro po kasi parang nagpapasapakasahan din ang maraming ahensya para sabihin na

asr-000514
00:53:45.980 --> 00:53:54.960
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: sino ang ahensya na dapat magkaroon ng mandato para sa paghingi ng pondo para sa implementasyon ng mga batas na ito.

asr-000515
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:59.460
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Pero dalalam natin na dapat ito talaga ay malagak sa CHP.

asr-000516
00:53:59.580 --> 00:54:05.960
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At sa CHR, dapat ay naging malinaw kung saan dadalhin din ang pondong.

asr-000517
00:54:06.300 --> 00:54:13.880
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, bigyan ko lang po kayo ng ilang datos para po sa mga nire-request po natin sa unfunded laws.

asr-000518
00:54:14.260 --> 00:54:23.060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: For example po sa ating special laws, yung pong RA-9851, International Humanitarian Law of 2009.

asr-000519
00:54:23.620 --> 00:54:26.540
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So nire-request po namin ito ng 15 million.

asr-000520
00:54:27.040 --> 00:54:29.540
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yung pong ating RA 9262,

asr-000521
00:54:29.580 --> 00:54:35.860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Anti-Violence Against Women and Their Children Act of 2004, 6 million.

asr-000522
00:54:36.720 --> 00:54:41.740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: RA-11036, Mental Health Act, 11 million.

asr-000523
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:50.760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: RA-11188, Special Protection of Children in Situation of Armed Conflict Act, 350,000.

asr-000524
00:54:51.420 --> 00:54:55.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020, 14 million.

asr-000525
00:54:56.300 --> 00:54:59.560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Anti-Torture Act of 2009, 4 million.

asr-000526
00:54:59.580 --> 00:55:04.540
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Anti-Inforced Disappearance Law of 2012, 6 million.

asr-000527
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: RA-Magna Carta of Women, 6 million.

asr-000528
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:16.340
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So ito po ay 3 years na po hanggang ngayon po ay hindi po nabibigyan ng budget.

asr-000529
00:55:16.340 --> 00:55:25.500
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kaya po siguro maganda rin makita sa inyong milestone, identification sa inyong 10-year program.

asr-000530
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:29.440
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Saan po natin, paano po natin sasabihin na marami?

asr-000531
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:30.560
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Paano po tayong nagawa?

asr-000532
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:38.540
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Siguro din po, hindi naman po din tayo hihintulang sa pagkasabing dahil hindi siya napupondohan,

asr-000533
00:55:39.160 --> 00:55:41.380
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ay wala na rin tayong gagawin about it.

asr-000534
00:55:41.580 --> 00:55:47.040
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So, baka lang po, Madam Sponsor, baka humingi po.

asr-000535
00:55:47.340 --> 00:55:51.080
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Kasi ang marami po sa tanong na ito, ang pinakamahalagang mga tanong na ito,

asr-000536
00:55:51.080 --> 00:55:59.300
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ay nagagaling din po sa mga kasamahan natin sa civil society organizations na nagtataka.

asr-000537
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:16.980
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: At nagtatanong kung saan pumupunta yung accomplishments ng commission sa pag-realize ng targets niya para sa mga pagtapos ng kanilang termino bilang member ng NBank.

asr-000538
00:56:16.980 --> 00:56:28.980
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: So, baka po pwede din ako magtanong kailan ko po makikita yung dokumentong yun para po malaman natin at maibalik din natin sa mga samahan na ito na,

asr-000539
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:37.340
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: ito po ang pwede natin i-review at tingnan para pakita natin yung supportang maaari natin ibigay sa CHR.

asr-000540
00:56:38.780 --> 00:56:44.600
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, we will provide po necessary documents. Magsasubmit po kami sa inyo.

asr-000541
00:56:45.080 --> 00:56:53.940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Sabi po ng komisyon, sabi po ng ating chairman Richard Pagpalatok, kahit hanggang bukas daw po ay magproprovide daw po kami ng data sa inyo.

asr-000542
00:56:55.020 --> 00:56:56.900
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kahit bukas po,

asr-000542-split-2
00:56:56.900 --> 00:56:59.080
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: hindi po kahit bukas.

asr-000543
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:00.220
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Bukas po.

asr-000544
00:57:00.220 --> 00:57:00.540
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Bukas po.

asr-000545
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:13.960
Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao: Abagahan ko yun na Madam Sponsor. Maraming po salamat. Yun lang po sa ngayon ang gusto kong maipahatid. Thank you so much Madam Speaker at sa lahat po na bubuo ng komisyon.

asr-000546
00:57:16.740 --> 00:57:17.600
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

asr-000547
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:28.600
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List to interpellate on the proposed budget.

asr-000548
00:57:30.220 --> 00:57:35.640
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

asr-000549
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

asr-000550
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:58.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tungkol sa nailabas na ulat ng Commission on Human Rights nitong April 7, tungkol sa panawagan ng dagliang aksyon para tugunan ang mga kondisyon at mga gaps para sa child protection sa ilang bahay pag-asa,

asr-000551
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:26.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa buong bansa. Ito po yung ating mga facilities na magtitiyak sana na may rehabilitative, may digtas na espasyo para sa mga CICL na matugunan yung pangangailangan para ho sila ay makabalik muli sa ating society, makapagpatuloy ng pag-aaral at matiyak ang karapatan ng mga bata.

asr-000552
00:58:26.180 --> 00:58:37.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang ilan sa mga na-document na seryosong issues ng CHR ay tungkol sa mga gaps sa implementation ng Juvenile Justice and Welfare Act.

asr-000553
00:58:38.260 --> 00:58:50.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandito rin po ang violence during a child's apprehension, ill-treatment by facility personnel, and facilities that are designed more like jails than safe spaces for children.

asr-000554
00:58:50.720 --> 00:58:56.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, nakikita rin po ang ganitong sitwasyon sa nailabas na report.

asr-000555
00:58:56.180 --> 00:59:09.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Children's Legal Rights and Development Center tungkol naman sa mga torture cases at abuso sa mga bata, sa mga bahay pag-asa, ganon din po sa iba't ibang mga facilities sa buong bansa.

asr-000556
00:59:10.220 --> 00:59:25.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang tanong po natin para sa Commission on Human Rights, mula po ma-issue ninyo ang ulat na ito, naglabas din po kayo ng detalyado na situation report, meron na po bang tugon ang mga relevant agencies kung paano matitiyak na may aksyon?

asr-000557
00:59:26.180 --> 00:59:28.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga kasong ito.

asr-000558
00:59:35.740 --> 00:59:41.180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, meron po tayong datos sa katanungan po ni...

asr-000559
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:50.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Last Tuesday po, we presented sa isang forum lahat po ng mga government agencies.

asr-000560
00:59:50.640 --> 00:59:56.020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ito pong inyong mga tinanong ngayon, Kong Ilago.

asr-000561
00:59:56.180 --> 00:59:58.560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We presented po ito.

asr-000562
01:00:00.740 --> 01:00:14.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, bukod sa ating pinakahuli na situation report, meron din tayong updated na data at information tungkol sa kalagayan ng ating bahay pag-asa facilities.

asr-000563
01:00:15.040 --> 01:00:24.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron na ba tayong coordination? Present din po ba sa inyong ginanap na forum, halimbawa ang DSWD, para investigahan ang ganitong mga kaso?

asr-000564
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:38.400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, yes po. Bukod po sa DSWD, nandoon din po ang PNP, ang DILG at AFP po.

asr-000564-split-2
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:46.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, meron ding mahalagang center ang CHR tungkol sa pagtataguyod ng karapatan ng mga bata, ang Child Rights Center.

asr-000565
01:00:46.600 --> 01:00:51.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon po ba, magkano po ang nakalaan na pondo para sa Child Rights Center?

asr-000566
01:00:51.520 --> 01:01:07.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, muli at tulad po ng ating paninindigan noong budget briefing, ang mga policy center na ito ay susi para matiyak natin na ang ating mga aksyon, mga desisyon, mga posisyon sa iba't ibang issue,

asr-000567
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:13.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa paggamit ng pondo ng ating bayan, ay nagagabayan ng datos.

asr-000568
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:20.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang sinasabi ngayon, Madam Speaker, nangangailangan na tugunan natin agad itong nakakaalalaan.

asr-000569
01:01:21.520 --> 01:01:28.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mga kaso ng torture at child protection gaps sa ating bahay pag-asa facilities.

asr-000572
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:10.340
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Naka-lump sum po siya sa ating

asr-000573
01:02:10.340 --> 01:02:15.500
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: policy program para po sa formulation and advocacy of human rights

asr-000574
01:02:15.500 --> 01:02:16.280
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: policies,

asr-000575
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:24.180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Plans and Programs and Monitoring Implementation of International Human Rights, nagkakahalaga po siya ng 79 million pesos.

asr-000576
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:28.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

asr-000577
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:30.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gayun din po sinusuportahan natin.

asr-000578
01:02:31.940 --> 01:02:35.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Alam ko ho na malayo pa iyan doon sa mga kinakailangan.

asr-000579
01:02:36.380 --> 01:02:44.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang po hinihiling pero pinapanawagan ng ating mga policy centers para sa sapat na pondo para mapagpatuloy ang kanilang mahalagang trabaho.

asr-000580
01:02:44.500 --> 01:02:50.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, tungkol sa Human Rights Violations Victim Memorial Commission.

asr-000581
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:55.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Base po sa General Appropriations Bill na ating tinatalakay ngayon,

asr-000582
01:02:56.500 --> 01:03:07.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bumaba ang budget ng Human Rights Violations Victim Memorial Commission mula sa 62,504,000, naging 61,174,000 na lamang.

asr-000583
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:09.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano po ang dahilan ng pagbaba nito?

asr-000584
01:03:10.120 --> 01:03:13.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa ngayon po, maari ba tayong bigyan ng update?

asr-000585
01:03:14.140 --> 01:03:14.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung...

asr-000586
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:22.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano na ang status ng pagtatayo o yung pagtatayo ng mga dapat matapos ng komisyon na ito?

asr-000587
01:03:23.620 --> 01:03:32.580
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, kasi po ang ating capital outlay po ngayon ay zero ang allocation.

asr-000588
01:03:34.860 --> 01:03:36.600
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Wala pong nakalagay ngayon.

asr-000589
01:03:36.780 --> 01:03:40.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So compared po last year, kahit po paano, meron po tayong capital outlay.

asr-000590
01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:43.880
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ngayon pong 2020, for 2027 po,

asr-000591
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.480
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: zero allocation po tayo.

asr-000592
01:03:48.520 --> 01:03:56.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, hingin na rin po natin muli yung detalye tungkol dito at maisumite sa representasyon na ito mula sa kababaihan.

asr-000593
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:09.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po tungkol sa naiulat na nawawala na trust fund ng mga PDL sa CIW, sa Correctional Institute for Women.

asr-000594
01:04:09.340 --> 01:04:14.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At dito po, naiulat din sa kapulungan na ito na may aabot sa 60%.

asr-000595
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:26.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang tindig dito ng CHR ay dapat magkaroon ng independent probe sa nawawalang CIW-PDL trust fund.

asr-000596
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:32.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari ba tayong bigyan ng update tungkol sa nasabing independent investigation?

asr-000597
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:44.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano matitiyak din ang Kongreso na magagamit nito ang kanyang kapangyarihan sa oversight para matiyak na magagawa ng CHR ang kanyang trabaho?

asr-000598
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:56.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na kung meron mang dapat silipin, dapat gawin o mabago para mapagtibay ang palisiya para magawa ang independent probe, ay magawa natin ito.

asr-000599
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:01.800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, until now ongoing po ang investigation.

asr-000600
01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:12.120
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: PDLs raise allegations regarding irregularities in the handling, accounting, and release of funds under the CIW-PDL trust fund,

asr-000601
01:05:12.120 --> 01:05:14.120
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: including an alleged discrepancy.

asr-000602
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:39.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, sinusuportahan ng representasyon na ito ng kababaihan ang paglulunsad ng independent probe ng Commission on Human Rights sa nasabing issue.

asr-000603
01:05:39.600 --> 01:05:43.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi biro ang abot sa 6 million pesos na nawawala.

asr-000604
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:47.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dapat may malinaw na mapanagot tungkol dito.

asr-000605
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:59.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Habang tinitiyak din natin na yung capacity ng CHR na magsagawa ng ganitong mga independent probe, magawa nila ng nasa oras.

asr-000606
01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:04.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang po ito tungkol sa pananagutan, sa accountability, Madam Speaker.

asr-000607
01:06:05.260 --> 01:06:12.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa tingin po natin, dapat meron ding malinaw na direksyon paano ba mababalik yung mga nawawalang mga pondo na yan.

asr-000608
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:19.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano natin matitiyak na hindi na mauulit ito muli sa ating mga facilities.

asr-000609
01:06:21.160 --> 01:06:30.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, nais ko rin pong magtanong isang bagay na ibahagi ko rin kanina sa harap ng issue.

asr-000610
01:06:30.380 --> 01:06:36.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tungkol po ito sa issue ng mga kababayan natin na magpasa hanggang ngayon,

asr-000611
01:06:36.660 --> 01:06:41.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: siyempre taon, matapos ang Marawi siege, ay nasa temporary shelter pa rin.

asr-000612
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:47.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nagkaroon po ba ang pag-aaral ang CHR? Nagkaroon po ba kayo ng pagbisita?

asr-000613
01:06:48.140 --> 01:06:58.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nagkaroon na po ba ng mga pinakahuling pag-uulat na tungkol sa sitwasyon ng ating mga internally displaced persons?

asr-000614
01:06:58.460 --> 01:07:07.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At paano po natin napapaabot sa iba't ibang mga agencies ang kanilang mga pangangailangan para sa makataong kondisyon?

asr-000615
01:07:07.200 --> 01:07:12.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At matiyak yung kanilang karapatan na mabuhay ng may pantay na karapatan.

asr-000616
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:13.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May dignidad.

asr-000617
01:07:14.520 --> 01:07:20.560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, with regards po sa ating Marawi siege, I am with you, Kong Sara.

asr-000618
01:07:21.140 --> 01:07:30.020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, CHR granted financial assistance to 2,372 claimants, amounting to 7.1 million pesos.

asr-000619
01:07:30.020 --> 01:07:39.700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We have also issued a human rights advisory with continuous monitoring of compliance with laws and standards described in the advisory.

asr-000620
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:42.800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron din po tayong issuance of press statement

asr-000621
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:44.360
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and social media cards.

asr-000622
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:52.240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And sa totoo lang po, ngayon pong November, sabi po ng komisyon, sila po ay pupunta uli sa Marawi City.

asr-000623
01:07:53.220 --> 01:08:02.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, sa pagpunta ng komisyon sa darating na Nobyembre dito sa Marawi, ano po ang particular na layunin ng pagbisita na ito?

asr-000624
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:12.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na, meron hong bagong executive order tungkol sa pagtatatag ng Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation.

asr-000625
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:20.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And development na is po natin, kumbaga hindi lang po ito ginawa para lang masabi na meron tayong ganitong office.

asr-000626
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:30.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero matiyak na ang office na ito na naitatag ay tutugon talaga sa agad na mga pangangailangan ng ating mga kababayan na ID,

asr-000627
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:37.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hanggang ngayon ay nakakaranas pa rin ng nakakulangan sa adequate housing sa kanilang lugar.

asr-000628
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:42.000
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker.

asr-000632
01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:50.800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ang pagpunta po doon ng komisyon ay magkakaroon po tayo ng diagolo para po sa ating mga residente ng Marawi City.

asr-000633
01:08:51.520 --> 01:09:02.560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At syempre po, sa D-SUD po, nagpadala na rin po tayo ng letter para po i-raise yung operationalized MCB provided

asr-000634
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:08.300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: at nagbigay po tayo ng recommendation and technical assistance para sa kanilang sekretariat.

asr-000635
01:09:09.220 --> 01:09:11.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

asr-000636
01:09:11.340 --> 01:09:12.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa kasalukuyan din po.

asr-000637
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:24.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nagpaabot po noon ng panawagan din ang mga residente sa Marawi sa pangunguna ng Marawi Advocacy Accompaniment

asr-000638
01:09:24.320 --> 01:09:33.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na magkaroon ng dialogo at konsultasyon na ispo sana namin natawagan din ang Center for Social Justice and Humanitarian Protection

asr-000639
01:09:33.200 --> 01:09:41.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para doon sa mga issues, concerns, at needs po nila ay maisama naman doon sa magiging plano

asr-000640
01:09:41.220 --> 01:09:45.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Marawi Diablitation and Development.

asr-000641
01:09:46.020 --> 01:09:51.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kumbaga, matiyak po natin na sa lahat ng mga magiging plano, kasama mismo yung tao.

asr-000642
01:09:52.740 --> 01:10:01.700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, sa November 17 po, pupunta po ang komisyon sa Marawi at magkakaroon po tayo ng Multi-Stakeholder Forum on Housing,

asr-000643
01:10:02.240 --> 01:10:05.800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Land Property Rights, at kasama din po rito ang Marawi Board.

asr-000644
01:10:07.460 --> 01:10:09.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

asr-000645
01:10:09.300 --> 01:10:10.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At harap din sa kapulungan na ito ang...

asr-000646
01:10:11.220 --> 01:10:14.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Marawi Victims Compensation Board.

asr-000647
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:23.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At marami din pong mga katanungan ng ating mga kababayan kung paano ba gagamitin at ginagamit ang pondo ng bayan

asr-000648
01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:30.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil ngayong 2027, sa susunod na taon, zero ang pondo nila para sa susunod na taon.

asr-000649
01:10:30.260 --> 01:10:39.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, malinaw na marami pa rin mga nangangailangan, kaya dapat po natin itulak kasabay ng pagtataas ng pondo ng CHR,

asr-000650
01:10:39.380 --> 01:10:40.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pondo rin para sa...

asr-000651
01:10:41.220 --> 01:10:49.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga bodies na tumutugon sa pangailangan ng mga affected pa rin na stakeholders sa Marawi.

asr-000652
01:10:49.240 --> 01:10:59.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman bilang panghuli, Madam Speaker, nais ko lang pong mapaalalahanan ang ating CHR tungkol sa ating request.

asr-000653
01:11:00.060 --> 01:11:10.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung meron na kayong assessment sa role ng CHR sa pagtitiyak ng right to adequate housing at right against unjust demolition,

asr-000654
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:19.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung meron na po kayong ulat tungkol dyan, dahil kayo po ay kasama sa dapat sa mga panahon na magkakaroon ng mga demolisyon

asr-000655
01:11:19.580 --> 01:11:31.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at maobserba na naoobserba natin yung mga protocols, yung mga policies na nagtataguyod sa karapatang pantao, number one po yan.

asr-000656
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:40.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At number two, kung sa tingin po ba ninyo ay kailangan pa natin ang mas pangil at mas malakas po,

asr-000657
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:51.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga kapangyarihan para matiyak talaga na mauuna ang karapatang pantao sa pagtataguyod ng karapatan sa sapat at disente na panirahan.

asr-000658
01:11:52.860 --> 01:11:59.880
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, may commission and bank na po tayo, may commission and bank resolution na po tayong naibigay dito,

asr-000659
01:12:00.460 --> 01:12:03.860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: at ang commission po ay kasama pa rin po sa pre-demolition board.

asr-000660
01:12:05.940 --> 01:12:09.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At yan po ang hihintayin ng ating representasyon.

asr-000661
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:16.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Magiging resulta ng pagpupulong na yan at kung may kopya na kayo ng resolution.

asr-000662
01:12:16.900 --> 01:12:23.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang hiningi nga po natin yung evaluation ng gaps eh, kung meron.

asr-000663
01:12:23.080 --> 01:12:32.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi meron din sa ating kongreso, Madam Speaker, matagal nang sinusulong ng CHR yung pagpapalakas sa ating National Human Rights Institution.

asr-000664
01:12:33.400 --> 01:12:37.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang kongreso na rin niyang sinusulong dito sa House of Representatives.

asr-000665
01:12:38.300 --> 01:12:40.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero ang nangyayari, lagi nakakalimutan.

asr-000666
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:46.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May nakapasa dito pero nabibinbinbin sa Senado o kaya po talagang hindi nakakaabot ang pagpasa.

asr-000667
01:12:46.540 --> 01:12:55.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya ang hamon sa ating 28th Congress, hindi lang matiyak ang sapat na pondo sa CHR, kundi mapasa na rin ang mga mahalagang batas na ito,

asr-000668
01:12:56.320 --> 01:13:05.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang strengthening ng CHR bilang National Human Rights Institution, kasama na rin po ng protection ng rights ng human rights defenders.

asr-000669
01:13:06.340 --> 01:13:08.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po tayong HRD bill.

asr-000670
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:10.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron din po tayo ngayong nakakaabot.

asr-000671
01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:26.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang bang na panukalang batas para sa National Preventive Mechanism para matiyak na compliance sa optional protocol sa Convention Against Torture ang ating mga batas, ang ating mga palisya.

asr-000672
01:13:27.240 --> 01:13:30.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya naman, Madam Chair, dito na po ako magtatapos.

asr-000673
01:13:30.300 --> 01:13:39.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi pa rin po nagbibigay ang CHR ng ulat tungkol dun sa hinihain ng mga kababaihan mula sa Marikina.

asr-000674
01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:52.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Tungkol po sa ulat sa kanilang lugar ng presence po na nagbubunga o naghahatid po ng threat, harassment, at intimidation sa kanilang mga lugar.

asr-000675
01:13:53.140 --> 01:13:59.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, yan na lang po ang maitutulak natin sa CHR na dagliang maipaabot sa representasyon na ito.

asr-000676
01:13:59.460 --> 01:14:02.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

asr-000677
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:04.560
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

asr-000678
01:14:05.160 --> 01:14:08.560
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative

asr-000679
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:15.380
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Dadah Kiram Ismula of the Akbayan Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

asr-000680
01:14:16.100 --> 01:14:20.960
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Dadah Kiram Ismula of Akbayan Party-list is now recognized for her interpellation.

asr-000681
01:14:22.620 --> 01:14:26.300
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magandang gabi po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

asr-000682
01:14:26.460 --> 01:14:29.480
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

asr-000683
01:14:30.060 --> 01:14:38.180
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, meron lamang akong ilang katanungan related to the disposition of cases handled by the Commission.

asr-000684
01:14:38.180 --> 01:14:48.360
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor, under the 2027 NEP ng CHR, can you describe what the Human Rights Protection Program is about?

asr-000685
01:14:48.860 --> 01:15:01.200
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And can the good sponsor also please describe how this program and its services can help an ordinary citizen, for example, a Moro or indigenous person? Thank you.

asr-000686
01:15:07.700 --> 01:15:16.440
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, the Human Rights Protection Service is the operational arm responsible for investigating complaints,

asr-000687
01:15:17.160 --> 01:15:22.600
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: manages cases, and delivering direct intervention for victims of human rights violations.

asr-000688
01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:39.200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, yung key functions and services po are independent investigations, quick response operations, legal aid and counseling, forensic and medical legal services, financial assistance, and witness protection.

asr-000689
01:15:43.200 --> 01:15:52.200
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano po kaya ito makakatulong sa isang ordinaryong mamamayan or ordinary citizen, for example, a moro or indigenous person?

asr-000690
01:15:52.600 --> 01:16:05.180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, yung ating mga clients, actually po, pwede po silang pumunta walk-in, physical in-person, o pwede rin po nilang bisitahin ang ating mga regional offices.

asr-000691
01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:10.800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron po tayong 17 regional offices sa buong Pilipinas.

asr-000692
01:16:11.300 --> 01:16:13.440
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pwede rin po silang mag-message sa FB.

asr-000693
01:16:13.940 --> 01:16:17.460
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron din po tayong online portal, yung tinatawag po natin mismo.

asr-000694
01:16:18.080 --> 01:16:20.440
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron din po tayong hotlines, emails.

asr-000695
01:16:20.440 --> 01:16:22.580
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pwede rin po silang magbigay ng letters.

asr-000696
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:28.660
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At saka motu proprio, our own investigation and initiative.

asr-000697
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:40.100
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, Madam Sponsor, if an ordinary citizen wants to avail the services of this Human Rights Protection Program, ano ang process for them to avail?

asr-000698
01:16:40.260 --> 01:16:47.060
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Bukod doon sa nabanggit ninyong mag-walk-in, magsusulat, paano po kaya yung proseso nila?

asr-000701
01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:53.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sabihin natin, nag-walk-in po ako.

asr-000702
01:16:53.300 --> 01:16:56.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pagdating ko doon, paano po kaya yung magiging proseso?

asr-000703
01:16:57.460 --> 01:17:04.080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Wala po yung, ang komisyon po ay, wala po silang formal process na tinatawag.

asr-000704
01:17:04.440 --> 01:17:05.360
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Formal complaint.

asr-000705
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:12.660
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Formal complaint. Lahat po ay, pag pumunta po doon, yung po ay agad-agad nating tutugunan.

asr-000706
01:17:13.080 --> 01:17:19.620
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Hindi po kailangan magkaroon ng formal complaint na dadalhin sa komisyon ang ating mga clients.

asr-000707
01:17:20.140 --> 01:17:22.120
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At tama po ba, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

asr-000708
01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:24.220
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wala itong timeline?

asr-000709
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:25.620
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Wala po.

asr-000710
01:17:26.240 --> 01:17:27.120
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po.

asr-000711
01:17:27.120 --> 01:17:36.200
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Given this, sa 2025 GAA, ang target ninyo sa pag-resolve ng human rights violation cases ay 90%.

asr-000712
01:17:36.200 --> 01:17:41.400
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero ang actual accomplishment ay 13.90% lang.

asr-000713
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:52.120
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: For cases finally disposed, kumbaga naisara na, within the prescribed period, ang target ay 95%, pero ang actual ay 53.30%.

asr-000714
01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:57.180
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maari po bang ipaliwanag kung bakit hindi na-meet ang targets na ito?

asr-000715
01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:14.460
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker. Yes, we do confirm na 90% po ng ating targets sa pag-resolve ng cases with access to remedies,

asr-000716
01:18:14.980 --> 01:18:20.240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: lumalabas po na tila mababa ang accomplishment at 13.9%.

asr-000717
01:18:20.240 --> 01:18:22.200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ngunit ito po ay dahil.

asr-000718
01:18:22.200 --> 01:18:29.240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Isinama namin sa bilang ang mga backlog cases mula pa po noong 1987 hanggang 2024.

asr-000719
01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:39.200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kapag tinignan po lamang ang new o yung pong 2025 na mga bagong kaso, ang ating pong accomplishment ay 86.67%.

asr-000720
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:50.940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kaya nais po naming ipaliwanag na tila mababa po yung 53.30% dahil karamihan sa mga kasong naitala sa panahon ay natanggap po sa huling quarter

asr-000721
01:18:50.940 --> 01:18:54.300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: o mga buwan ng 2025. Kaya ito po

asr-000722
01:18:54.300 --> 01:19:01.740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ay tumatakbo pa for investigation sa ating pong mga regional offices at siyempre po hindi naman po ito madali.

asr-000723
01:19:02.180 --> 01:19:04.020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kaya nahihirapan din po tayo.

asr-000724
01:19:04.500 --> 01:19:09.200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero para ipaliwanag po ito sa mga region, kami po ay maraming investigation.

asr-000725
01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:14.400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Marami po tayong kaso for investigation na mas madaming walk-in clients.

asr-000726
01:19:14.400 --> 01:19:19.400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kaya po yung kakulangan po ng personnel natin, isang factor pa rin po ito.

asr-000727
01:19:20.320 --> 01:19:21.400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At nagkakaroon po tayo ng...

asr-000728
01:19:22.200 --> 01:19:25.840
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: At nagkakaroon po tayo ng NIR na isa pa lamang newly created office.

asr-000729
01:19:26.620 --> 01:19:29.180
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

asr-000730
01:19:29.300 --> 01:19:40.680
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So matotal po ang lumalabas na kaya siya medyo mababa tignan ay dahil may mga nasa huling quarter na ito na pumasok ang cases

asr-000731
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:44.720
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at kaya hindi pa naibibilang ang accomplishment niya.

asr-000732
01:19:44.820 --> 01:19:46.180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Tama po, Madam Speaker.

asr-000733
01:19:46.180 --> 01:19:51.180
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At bilang isa din sa mga rason ay ang syempre ang kaso ay taon...

asr-000734
01:19:52.200 --> 01:19:55.540
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Taon ang bilang bago mo ito ma-re-resolve.

asr-000735
01:19:55.900 --> 01:19:58.380
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Depende pa sa anong klaseng kaso ito, diba?

asr-000736
01:19:58.900 --> 01:20:08.480
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: But anyway, finally, Distinguished Sponsor, ano po ang kongkretong hakbang na nakikita ng CHR para masigurong ma-improve ang performance

asr-000737
01:20:08.480 --> 01:20:12.660
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at maabot ang mga itinakdang targets sa susunod na taon?

asr-000738
01:20:12.860 --> 01:20:17.520
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, to my colleague, napakaganda po ng tanong ninyo.

asr-000739
01:20:18.240 --> 01:20:22.080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: To address the gaps po in the resolution and disposition of cases,

asr-000740
01:20:22.200 --> 01:20:31.240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the investigation function of the CHR should first be strengthened before the resolution, disposition of cases be made.

asr-000741
01:20:31.740 --> 01:20:35.240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thus, the following line items is the budget should be increased.

asr-000742
01:20:35.620 --> 01:20:43.440
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Unang-una po yung travel expenses po natin, supplies, representation, postage and training expenses.

asr-000743
01:20:44.100 --> 01:20:50.140
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kasi alam nyo po, Madam Speaker, nahahamper po yung services po ng komisyon.

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01:20:50.140 --> 01:20:52.020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yung pagpunta na lamang po.

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01:20:52.200 --> 01:20:59.280
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Sa mga regional offices, nagkakaroon po kami, medyo tight po ang budget na naibigay po natin sa komisyon.

asr-000746
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:06.840
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kaya po naman, hindi lamang po sa personnel, pati po sa services, talagang nagkakaroon po tayo ng gaps and lapses.

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01:21:07.160 --> 01:21:13.960
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero gayon pa man po, hanggang sa makakaya nga po ng komisyon, ay gagawin po natin ang mandato po sa atin ng konstitusyon.

asr-000748
01:21:14.540 --> 01:21:15.760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Maraming salamat po.

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01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:22.180
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, dadako naman po ako sa mga katanungan na nais ipahatid

asr-000750
01:21:22.780 --> 01:21:28.320
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng ating colleague, our Senior Deputy Minority Leader, Representative Leila de Lima.

asr-000751
01:21:29.180 --> 01:21:38.180
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, the Philippines ranking in the World Justice Project Rule of Law Index showed a slight improvement overall.

asr-000752
01:21:38.900 --> 01:21:48.980
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Moving from 99th out of 142 countries in 2024 to 97th out of 143 countries in 2025.

asr-000753
01:21:49.500 --> 01:21:51.640
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: However, the country remained.

asr-000754
01:21:52.200 --> 01:22:08.060
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 118th in fundamental rights while its civil justice ranking deteriorated from 98th to 106th despite an improvement in criminal justice from 124th to 119th.

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01:22:08.060 --> 01:22:23.980
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa kabila ng slight improvement overall, nananatiling mababa ang performance natin sa fundamental rights. Ano po ang nakikitang pangunahing gaps ng CHR at ano ang mga hakbang nitong ginagawa para matugunan ang mga ito?

asr-000756
01:22:28.620 --> 01:22:37.980
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, on national protection mechanism, this aim for a comprehensive and institutionalized national mechanism that integrates

asr-000757
01:22:38.060 --> 01:22:52.380
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: prevention, protection, and response. It also enhances coordination across stakeholders, utilizes data-driven system for decision-making, and also ensures inclusivity through GAD principle.

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01:22:53.240 --> 01:23:07.080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ang PKP framework po aims to address the gaps. For example, yung delayed response to incidents, weak interagency coordination, at yung ating limited integration of data system.

asr-000759
01:23:07.080 --> 01:23:08.040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Meron din po.

asr-000760
01:23:08.060 --> 01:23:14.060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Mayroon din po tayong uneven access to service across regions by establishing a unified human rights.

asr-000761
01:23:16.080 --> 01:23:29.060
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Para ba tugunan ang pagbaba ng civil justice? Anong mga interventions ang kailangan ng CHR at may sapat po bang pondo or funds sa kasulukuyang budget para maisagawa ang mga ito?

asr-000762
01:23:30.080 --> 01:23:35.300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Actually po, lagi po naman tayong hindi sapat ang pondo, Madam Speaker.

asr-000763
01:23:35.700 --> 01:23:38.060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero siyempre po, we have the continuing

asr-000764
01:23:38.060 --> 01:23:46.060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: advocacy for passage of HRD laws and also lahat po ng bill for CADB.

asr-000765
01:23:48.380 --> 01:24:08.040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ang budget po kasi natin for 2027 para sa protection ay 95 million ay hindi po sapat para mapalawak at gumawa ng bagong mga programa at tustusan ang gastos ng 17 regional offices na nangangailangan po ng mga sasakyan,

asr-000766
01:24:08.060 --> 01:24:13.300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: gas at kung ano-ano pa para po sa ating mga imbestigasyon.

asr-000767
01:24:14.360 --> 01:24:24.060
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At para po sa huling katanungan, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, sa criminal justice naman, umangat tayo from 124 to 119.

asr-000768
01:24:25.280 --> 01:24:27.740
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero mababa pa rin ang standing natin.

asr-000769
01:24:27.740 --> 01:24:37.980
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano po ang specific programs ng CHR na nangangailangan ng additional resources upang mapalakas ang access to justice?

asr-000770
01:24:38.060 --> 01:24:39.480
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At human rights protection?

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01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:54.560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Unang-una po, Madam Speaker, kailangan po natin madagdagan ang budget ng ating komisyon para ma-establish po at mapalakas ang national protection mechanism para po sa ating human rights defenders.

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01:24:54.920 --> 01:25:06.560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Katulad po ng ating bantay karapatang pantao, kalinga karapatang pantao, at tugon karapatang pantao, nagkakahalaga po itong an additional 13 million pesos.

asr-000773
01:25:08.060 --> 01:25:12.940
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa huli, ito'y lumalabas na nasa budget pa rin ang problema.

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01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:30.380
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In closing, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, I would like to manifest that the budget of the Commission on Human Rights should be sufficient to allow the CHR to fully carry out its constitutional mandate, which is to protect and uphold the rights of our people.

asr-000775
01:25:30.380 --> 01:25:39.600
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: We trust that the guidance of the good sponsor, this chamber, will give due consideration to strengthening the CHR's budget.

asr-000777
01:25:40.040 --> 01:25:42.420
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

asr-000778
01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:43.680
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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01:25:52.860 --> 01:26:04.160
Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list to interpellate the proposed budget.

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01:26:04.900 --> 01:26:07.720
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Rene Luis Co of Kabataan Party-list.

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01:26:07.900 --> 01:26:09.140
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Now recognized to interpellate.

asr-000784
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:17.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening to the good sponsor and to the Commission on Human Rights.

asr-000785
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:29.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd just like to have some questions in relation to our discussion in the previous budget briefing held with the Commission on Human Rights.

asr-000786
01:26:30.160 --> 01:26:37.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In the committee-level deliberations, the CHR mentioned that there is still or there is now

asr-000787
01:26:37.460 --> 01:26:43.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no specific line item in the budget for its programs against red tagging, which is up for design.

asr-000788
01:26:44.980 --> 01:26:52.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And so, if there will be a design for it, it will get its funds from the Human Rights Protection Program.

asr-000789
01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:55.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this correct, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

asr-000790
01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:57.760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-000791
01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:07.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Would it be beneficial, therefore, if the budget were to itemize and directly fund the CHR's anti-red tagging program?

asr-000792
01:27:07.460 --> 01:27:11.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Similar to the National Preventive Mechanism in the near future?

asr-000793
01:27:12.580 --> 01:27:13.760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-000794
01:27:14.500 --> 01:27:16.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-000795
01:27:17.400 --> 01:27:27.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We note that the NPM item label has conduct of regular visitations in places of detention and rehabilitation facilities

asr-000796
01:27:27.740 --> 01:27:32.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and preventive monitoring of human rights conditions herein.

asr-000797
01:27:32.360 --> 01:27:36.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In our previous discussion and in the recommendations,

asr-000798
01:27:37.460 --> 01:27:46.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as provided in the Commission on Human Rights investigation on the National Inquiry on Red Tagging,

asr-000799
01:27:46.580 --> 01:27:55.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it says that there could be quick response mechanisms when such instances or cases are reported to the Commission on Human Rights.

asr-000800
01:27:55.560 --> 01:28:06.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In the near future, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, can the CHR consider or can we expect from the CHR that there will be a line item

asr-000801
01:28:06.220 --> 01:28:07.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to correspond?

asr-000802
01:28:07.460 --> 01:28:20.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To funding the creation, design, and support of programs to address issues of red tagging that will be designed by the CHR?

asr-000803
01:28:20.420 --> 01:28:21.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-000804
01:28:23.220 --> 01:28:24.500
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-000805
01:28:26.500 --> 01:28:27.860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, yes, po.

asr-000806
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:30.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-000807
01:28:30.740 --> 01:28:35.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We're heartened to hear this response from the Commission on Human Rights,

asr-000808
01:28:35.480 --> 01:28:37.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we hope that in the near future,

asr-000809
01:28:37.460 --> 01:28:49.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or we'd be able to design programs and to have a line item specifically to ensure that our recommendation

asr-000810
01:28:49.020 --> 01:29:03.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that red tagging must be prevented, must be responded upon with preventive mechanisms would happen and would be supported.

asr-000811
01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:15.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be because in the past year since the last budget season, multiple activist groups and progressive individuals

asr-000812
01:29:15.240 --> 01:29:20.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: have filed complaints before the Commission on Human Rights to investigate human rights violations.

asr-000813
01:29:21.480 --> 01:29:31.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There were cases filed by a member of BPO Employees Network in Cebu.

asr-000814
01:29:31.300 --> 01:29:33.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There is a complaint filed.

asr-000815
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:36.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There is a complaint filed by a student leader from SLSU.

asr-000816
01:29:37.400 --> 01:29:45.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There are complaints filed because of the arbitrary mass arrests during the 2026 State of the Nation Address.

asr-000817
01:29:46.580 --> 01:29:51.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There's also one filed by a Gabriela Women's Party chapter in Marikina.

asr-000818
01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:58.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And there is also another one filed by civil rights organizations in Ilocos.

asr-000819
01:29:58.080 --> 01:30:00.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There's one filed in Southern

asr-000820
01:30:00.120 --> 01:30:01.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tagalog Region. There's one

asr-000821
01:30:01.880 --> 01:30:04.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: filed by a student leader in UST.

asr-000822
01:30:04.700 --> 01:30:05.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-000823
01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:08.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may we ask

asr-000824
01:30:08.140 --> 01:30:10.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the statuses of

asr-000825
01:30:10.040 --> 01:30:11.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the following cases?

asr-000826
01:30:12.220 --> 01:30:13.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can this just be submitted to

asr-000827
01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the good representation in a report?

asr-000828
01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:17.960
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker,

asr-000829
01:30:18.100 --> 01:30:19.780
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: we will submit our

asr-000830
01:30:19.780 --> 01:30:22.400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: report and updates

asr-000831
01:30:22.400 --> 01:30:24.360
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: to you,

asr-000832
01:30:24.360 --> 01:30:26.520
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Cong. Renee.

asr-000833
01:30:27.360 --> 01:30:28.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good

asr-000834
01:30:28.360 --> 01:30:30.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sponsor because this is in relation to

asr-000835
01:30:30.540 --> 01:30:32.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the earlier question

asr-000836
01:30:32.480 --> 01:30:33.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that

asr-000837
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:36.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these groups and

asr-000838
01:30:36.340 --> 01:30:38.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: these individuals have

asr-000839
01:30:38.140 --> 01:30:38.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: suffered

asr-000840
01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:42.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: instances, cases of red tagging

asr-000841
01:30:42.240 --> 01:30:44.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but not only that, human rights

asr-000842
01:30:44.360 --> 01:30:46.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violations, surveillance,

asr-000843
01:30:46.740 --> 01:30:47.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: harassment,

asr-000844
01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: police violence,

asr-000845
01:30:51.860 --> 01:30:53.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that at the end of the day

asr-000846
01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:55.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the proposals for

asr-000847
01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:57.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the line items

asr-000848
01:30:57.820 --> 01:30:58.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may be

asr-000849
01:30:58.360 --> 01:30:59.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: best be used

asr-000850
01:30:59.660 --> 01:31:02.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the continuing operations

asr-000851
01:31:02.140 --> 01:31:03.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the Commission on Human Rights.

asr-000852
01:31:04.200 --> 01:31:06.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, we'll

asr-000853
01:31:06.280 --> 01:31:08.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: submit these cases

asr-000854
01:31:08.220 --> 01:31:10.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we'd like to request

asr-000855
01:31:10.240 --> 01:31:12.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a written update on

asr-000856
01:31:12.040 --> 01:31:14.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: their status

asr-000857
01:31:14.340 --> 01:31:16.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as of date, Madam Speaker.

asr-000858
01:31:17.100 --> 01:31:18.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-000859
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: my next question would be

asr-000860
01:31:20.260 --> 01:31:21.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to

asr-000861
01:31:21.460 --> 01:31:24.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the HRVVMC

asr-000862
01:31:24.200 --> 01:31:26.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the Martial Law Museum.

asr-000863
01:31:26.620 --> 01:31:28.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: As we know, it's September

asr-000864
01:31:28.240 --> 01:31:30.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 16, we are a few

asr-000865
01:31:30.480 --> 01:31:31.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: days shy

asr-000866
01:31:31.500 --> 01:31:34.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to the

asr-000867
01:31:34.460 --> 01:31:36.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: commemoration of

asr-000868
01:31:36.500 --> 01:31:38.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the declaration of Martial Law

asr-000869
01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:40.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which happens every

asr-000870
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:42.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: September 21 of the year.

asr-000871
01:31:43.220 --> 01:31:44.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So that will be

asr-000872
01:31:44.400 --> 01:31:45.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its 54th year since

asr-000873
01:31:45.900 --> 01:31:48.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the declaration by

asr-000874
01:31:48.500 --> 01:31:50.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ferdinand Marcos

asr-000875
01:31:50.460 --> 01:31:52.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sr. May we ask for a status

asr-000876
01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:54.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: update on the following memorial

asr-000877
01:31:54.360 --> 01:31:56.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: efforts? For example,

asr-000878
01:31:56.040 --> 01:31:58.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we have the Freedom Memorial

asr-000879
01:31:58.240 --> 01:31:59.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Museum Gallery.

asr-000880
01:32:00.380 --> 01:32:02.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can we ask for a general

asr-000881
01:32:02.280 --> 01:32:04.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: status update of the Freedom Memorial

asr-000882
01:32:04.540 --> 01:32:06.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Museum Gallery? Madam Speaker,

asr-000883
01:32:06.660 --> 01:32:07.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor.

asr-000884
01:32:10.020 --> 01:32:12.160
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, as to

asr-000885
01:32:12.160 --> 01:32:14.400
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: current status of the Freedom Memorial

asr-000886
01:32:14.400 --> 01:32:15.420
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Museum Project,

asr-000887
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:18.080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: original

asr-000888
01:32:18.080 --> 01:32:20.860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: site unavailable.

asr-000889
01:32:21.540 --> 01:32:22.060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: On March

asr-000890
01:32:22.060 --> 01:32:23.200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2026,

asr-000891
01:32:23.200 --> 01:32:24.700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: March 26,

asr-000892
01:32:25.580 --> 01:32:26.440
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2026,

asr-000893
01:32:27.100 --> 01:32:28.140
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the UP Office of the

asr-000894
01:32:28.140 --> 01:32:29.760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Vice President for Development

asr-000895
01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:32.000
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: informed HRVVMC

asr-000896
01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:33.660
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: that the originally agreed

asr-000897
01:32:33.660 --> 01:32:35.740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: [unclear] site within UP Diliman

asr-000898
01:32:35.740 --> 01:32:38.200
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: could no longer be made available

asr-000899
01:32:38.200 --> 01:32:40.080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and proposed an alternative

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01:32:40.080 --> 01:32:42.180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: site. September 2,

asr-000901
01:32:42.280 --> 01:32:44.320
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2026, the Commission

asr-000902
01:32:44.320 --> 01:32:45.860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: wrote a follow-up

asr-000903
01:32:45.860 --> 01:32:48.080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: to the

asr-000904
01:32:48.080 --> 01:32:49.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: UP Office of the Vice President

asr-000905
01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:52.160
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for Development for the Submission

asr-000906
01:32:52.160 --> 01:32:53.840
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of Relevant Technical Document.

asr-000907
01:32:56.240 --> 01:32:57.620
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And as of today,

asr-000908
01:32:57.620 --> 01:32:59.980
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the UP Office of the Vice President

asr-000909
01:32:59.980 --> 01:33:02.040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for Development has yet to submit

asr-000910
01:33:02.040 --> 01:33:03.940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the technical documents

asr-000911
01:33:03.940 --> 01:33:05.740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: requested by

asr-000912
01:33:05.740 --> 01:33:07.900
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: HRVVMC to evaluate

asr-000913
01:33:07.900 --> 01:33:09.560
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the alternative site it

asr-000914
01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:11.900
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: proposed. Madam Speaker,

asr-000915
01:33:12.020 --> 01:33:13.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, to clarify, this is for

asr-000916
01:33:13.700 --> 01:33:15.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the permanent Martial Law Museum,

asr-000917
01:33:15.860 --> 01:33:16.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: correct?

asr-000917-split-2
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:17.460
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, po.

asr-000918
01:33:18.380 --> 01:33:19.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And the

asr-000919
01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:21.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: status update being shared now

asr-000920
01:33:21.620 --> 01:33:23.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is that there is

asr-000921
01:33:23.220 --> 01:33:25.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: finality from UP that

asr-000922
01:33:25.460 --> 01:33:27.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it would no longer

asr-000923
01:33:27.620 --> 01:33:29.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be available

asr-000924
01:33:29.780 --> 01:33:31.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with regards to the original

asr-000925
01:33:31.820 --> 01:33:34.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: site conceptualized

asr-000926
01:33:34.240 --> 01:33:35.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for it.

asr-000926-split-2
01:33:35.100 --> 01:33:36.020
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-000927
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:37.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We're looking at

asr-000928
01:33:37.580 --> 01:33:39.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or we're hoping for alternatives

asr-000929
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:41.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which has yet to arrive.

asr-000930
01:33:42.180 --> 01:33:43.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is that correct?

asr-000930-split-2
01:33:43.100 --> 01:33:43.860
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes, po. Yes, Madam

asr-000931
01:33:43.860 --> 01:33:44.700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Speaker.

asr-000931-split-2
01:33:44.700 --> 01:33:46.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So there are no alternative sites

asr-000932
01:33:46.120 --> 01:33:47.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as of date, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

asr-000933
01:33:48.060 --> 01:33:49.300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: As of date, po, wala pa po.

asr-000934
01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:50.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

asr-000935
01:33:51.740 --> 01:33:53.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may I

asr-000936
01:33:53.940 --> 01:33:55.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: clarify what will happen

asr-000937
01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:56.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to its budget?

asr-000938
01:33:57.620 --> 01:33:58.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will it just be

asr-000939
01:33:58.900 --> 01:34:01.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sitting there for a bit until

asr-000940
01:34:01.780 --> 01:34:03.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we find an alternative site?

asr-000941
01:34:03.980 --> 01:34:05.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is there a threat that it will have to

asr-000942
01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:07.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be returned to the Treasury

asr-000943
01:34:07.820 --> 01:34:10.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because there's no alternative

asr-000944
01:34:10.040 --> 01:34:11.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yet? Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

asr-000945
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:13.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker,

asr-000946
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:15.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: since nasa trust fund po siya,

asr-000947
01:34:16.140 --> 01:34:17.920
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: secured po siya, Madam Speaker.

asr-000948
01:34:18.500 --> 01:34:19.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Madam

asr-000949
01:34:19.780 --> 01:34:20.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-000950
01:34:21.660 --> 01:34:23.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is there

asr-000951
01:34:23.820 --> 01:34:24.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: still

asr-000952
01:34:24.500 --> 01:34:27.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a target date by which,

asr-000953
01:34:27.620 --> 01:34:29.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it can be put up, given

asr-000954
01:34:29.700 --> 01:34:31.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that there's this

asr-000955
01:34:31.200 --> 01:34:32.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development?

asr-000956
01:34:34.980 --> 01:34:35.700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Target

asr-000957
01:34:35.700 --> 01:34:37.700
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: date of completion? Madam Speaker,

asr-000958
01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:39.360
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: we're still dependent on the,

asr-000959
01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:40.320
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: on UP.

asr-000960
01:34:41.580 --> 01:34:43.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-000961
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:45.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation is still hoping

asr-000962
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:47.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that even though

asr-000963
01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:49.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given this unfortunate

asr-000964
01:34:49.660 --> 01:34:51.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development, dapat po matayo

asr-000965
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:54.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: itong Memorial Museum

asr-000966
01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ito. Marami pong

asr-000967
01:34:56.060 --> 01:34:56.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: um,

asr-000968
01:34:57.620 --> 01:34:59.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga mamamayang Pilipino

asr-000969
01:34:59.300 --> 01:35:01.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang pinaslang noong batas

asr-000970
01:35:01.260 --> 01:35:03.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: militar. Dahil din po

asr-000971
01:35:03.140 --> 01:35:05.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito, nagkaroon tayo

asr-000972
01:35:05.540 --> 01:35:07.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng greater human rights

asr-000973
01:35:07.700 --> 01:35:09.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: safeguards in the

asr-000974
01:35:09.620 --> 01:35:11.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Constitution, which the

asr-000975
01:35:11.400 --> 01:35:13.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Commission on Human Rights is

asr-000976
01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:15.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: duty-bound to

asr-000977
01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:17.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ensure

asr-000978
01:35:17.100 --> 01:35:19.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and protect. And bahagi

asr-000979
01:35:19.620 --> 01:35:21.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po ng efforts na yun,

asr-000980
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:23.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: aside from yung legal

asr-000981
01:35:23.580 --> 01:35:24.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: duty, ay yung

asr-000982
01:35:24.900 --> 01:35:27.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: responsibility to pass on,

asr-000983
01:35:27.620 --> 01:35:28.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung lessons

asr-000984
01:35:28.860 --> 01:35:31.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: painted in blood, noong

asr-000985
01:35:31.380 --> 01:35:32.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ayaw nating maulit muli.

asr-000986
01:35:33.260 --> 01:35:35.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sana po ay makakuha tayo

asr-000987
01:35:35.540 --> 01:35:37.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng update as soon as possible.

asr-000988
01:35:37.860 --> 01:35:38.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May this representation

asr-000989
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:41.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be furnished and update

asr-000990
01:35:41.580 --> 01:35:43.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: once available, if

asr-000991
01:35:43.540 --> 01:35:45.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it is received by the Commission on Human Rights.

asr-000992
01:35:46.660 --> 01:35:47.460
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker,

asr-000993
01:35:47.780 --> 01:35:49.600
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: HRVVMC commits to

asr-000994
01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:50.940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: work closely with UP

asr-000995
01:35:50.940 --> 01:35:53.640
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for the immediate resolution on the matter

asr-000996
01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:55.040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of the site of the museum

asr-000997
01:35:55.040 --> 01:35:57.040
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: within the framework of the HRVVMC

asr-000998
01:35:57.620 --> 01:35:59.980
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: UP 2018

asr-000999
01:35:59.980 --> 01:36:01.340
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: [unclear] agreement.

asr-001000
01:36:02.040 --> 01:36:03.780
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So, continuous po ito, Madam Speaker,

asr-001001
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:05.120
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: hindi po titigil

asr-001002
01:36:05.120 --> 01:36:06.800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ang Commission at ang

asr-001003
01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:10.220
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: HRVVMC na magkaroon po tayo

asr-001004
01:36:10.220 --> 01:36:12.120
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ng museum

asr-001005
01:36:12.120 --> 01:36:14.160
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: para po sa ating victims

asr-001006
01:36:14.160 --> 01:36:15.440
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ng martial law.

asr-001007
01:36:16.380 --> 01:36:17.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And to clarify, Madam Speaker,

asr-001008
01:36:18.080 --> 01:36:19.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, this is different from the

asr-001009
01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:21.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Freedom Memorial Museum Gallery,

asr-001010
01:36:22.120 --> 01:36:23.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which is not the permanent

asr-001011
01:36:23.620 --> 01:36:26.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: installation yet, but it is

asr-001012
01:36:26.060 --> 01:36:27.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: essentially the temporary

asr-001013
01:36:27.460 --> 01:36:29.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: site for

asr-001014
01:36:29.060 --> 01:36:31.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the artifacts

asr-001015
01:36:31.740 --> 01:36:33.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the educational

asr-001016
01:36:33.580 --> 01:36:34.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: materials

asr-001017
01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:37.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to martial law. Is this correct?

asr-001018
01:36:37.900 --> 01:36:39.880
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Yes po. It is temporary, Madam

asr-001019
01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:40.380
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Speaker.

asr-001020
01:36:41.460 --> 01:36:43.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May I ask how many visitors

asr-001021
01:36:43.540 --> 01:36:44.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this

asr-001022
01:36:44.540 --> 01:36:47.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gallery aim to service

asr-001023
01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:49.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: monthly and annually?

asr-001024
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:51.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And may assessment na po ba on the success

asr-001025
01:36:51.820 --> 01:36:53.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of these events at paano po ito

asr-001026
01:36:53.640 --> 01:36:54.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pwedeng ma-improve?

asr-001027
01:36:57.460 --> 01:37:01.420
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, since

asr-001028
01:37:01.420 --> 01:37:03.320
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: launching the Freedom Memorial Museum

asr-001029
01:37:03.320 --> 01:37:05.180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Gallery and establishing

asr-001030
01:37:05.180 --> 01:37:07.380
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: its regular services, the Commission

asr-001031
01:37:07.380 --> 01:37:09.240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: has monitored performance through

asr-001032
01:37:09.240 --> 01:37:10.780
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: client feedback and satisfaction

asr-001033
01:37:10.780 --> 01:37:13.420
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: surveys. In 2024,

asr-001034
01:37:13.700 --> 01:37:15.300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: museum services achieved

asr-001035
01:37:15.300 --> 01:37:16.960
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: a 99.5

asr-001036
01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:19.240
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: satisfaction ratings.

asr-001037
01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:21.100
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: This high standard continued

asr-001038
01:37:21.100 --> 01:37:23.280
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: in 2025 with client

asr-001039
01:37:23.280 --> 01:37:25.420
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: feedback reflecting consistent service

asr-001040
01:37:25.420 --> 01:37:27.300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: quality and continuous

asr-001041
01:37:27.300 --> 01:37:28.960
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: improvement resulting in a

asr-001042
01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:31.060
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 100% satisfaction

asr-001043
01:37:31.060 --> 01:37:32.740
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: rating, Madam Speaker.

asr-001044
01:37:33.740 --> 01:37:34.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-001045
01:37:35.400 --> 01:37:37.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron po ba tayong datos

asr-001046
01:37:37.260 --> 01:37:39.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tungkol sa ilan pong

asr-001047
01:37:39.480 --> 01:37:41.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga bisita, yung

asr-001048
01:37:41.480 --> 01:37:43.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakakita na

asr-001049
01:37:43.380 --> 01:37:44.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at nakapunta na sa gallery?

asr-001050
01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:47.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How about kung may average

asr-001051
01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:49.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: monthly visitors

asr-001052
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:51.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po to if that data

asr-001053
01:37:51.200 --> 01:37:53.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is available? Madam Speaker,

asr-001054
01:37:53.360 --> 01:37:55.180
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: yes, meron po. We will

asr-001055
01:37:55.180 --> 01:37:56.940
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: provide na lamang po with the data.

asr-001056
01:37:57.300 --> 01:37:59.080
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Pero ngayon po ay

asr-001057
01:37:59.080 --> 01:38:01.360
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: more than 300 clients

asr-001058
01:38:01.360 --> 01:38:03.160
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: na po ang ating na-reach

asr-001059
01:38:03.160 --> 01:38:04.780
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for 2026.

asr-001060
01:38:06.380 --> 01:38:06.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And

asr-001061
01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:09.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: how were, kamusta po yung most recent

asr-001062
01:38:09.180 --> 01:38:11.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gallery visits and tours guided

asr-001063
01:38:11.160 --> 01:38:12.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by martial law victims?

asr-001064
01:38:13.860 --> 01:38:15.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May, aside po

asr-001065
01:38:15.280 --> 01:38:17.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from the positive assessment, meron po

asr-001066
01:38:17.340 --> 01:38:18.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bang substantive feedback?

asr-001067
01:38:19.860 --> 01:38:21.300
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: We're still collating po, Madam

asr-001068
01:38:21.300 --> 01:38:23.320
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Speaker, with regards to

asr-001069
01:38:23.320 --> 01:38:24.760
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: po sa feedback po.

asr-001070
01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:26.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Madam Speaker,

asr-001071
01:38:26.740 --> 01:38:27.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor,

asr-001072
01:38:28.240 --> 01:38:30.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the proper time, this representation

asr-001073
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:33.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will move to amend

asr-001074
01:38:33.220 --> 01:38:34.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to restore the cuts made

asr-001075
01:38:34.940 --> 01:38:37.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and to ensure a sufficient budget

asr-001076
01:38:37.020 --> 01:38:38.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for human rights protection

asr-001077
01:38:38.620 --> 01:38:40.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and education, including

asr-001078
01:38:40.580 --> 01:38:42.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: safeguards against red-tagging, torture

asr-001079
01:38:42.840 --> 01:38:45.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and other abuses perpetrated

asr-001080
01:38:45.160 --> 01:38:46.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by state forces, and

asr-001081
01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:48.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: support for the completion and operation

asr-001082
01:38:48.700 --> 01:38:50.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the permanent martial law museum.

asr-001083
01:38:51.420 --> 01:38:52.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, Madam Speaker,

asr-001084
01:38:53.060 --> 01:38:54.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation continues

asr-001085
01:38:54.760 --> 01:38:56.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to advocate,

asr-001086
01:38:56.740 --> 01:38:58.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the budget of the Commission

asr-001087
01:38:58.820 --> 01:39:01.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on Human Rights, as we have

asr-001088
01:39:01.100 --> 01:39:03.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: manifested during its budget

asr-001089
01:39:03.020 --> 01:39:05.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: briefing, and of course,

asr-001090
01:39:05.540 --> 01:39:07.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marami pong mga programa

asr-001091
01:39:07.460 --> 01:39:08.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung

asr-001092
01:39:08.540 --> 01:39:11.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kinakailangan na may

asr-001093
01:39:11.040 --> 01:39:13.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pondo na hindi naman po kalakhan

asr-001094
01:39:13.420 --> 01:39:14.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na maaari pong

asr-001095
01:39:14.780 --> 01:39:17.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: i-grant sa Commission on Human

asr-001096
01:39:17.180 --> 01:39:19.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Rights, para po hindi lang

asr-001097
01:39:19.100 --> 01:39:20.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga direly necessary

asr-001098
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: projects na ma-implement nila,

asr-001099
01:39:23.200 --> 01:39:24.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero kahit yung mode of

asr-001100
01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:26.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: operations na inaasahan natin,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa Commission on Human Rights,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: such as, for example, not only the visiting

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of detention centers, pero kung paano

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nila na-ensure that

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga bahay pag-asa at iba pa,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they're up to par with the standards

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: provided by law.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Gusto natin magawa ng

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Commission on Human Rights yung kanilang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mandato at supportado po,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi lang ang national office,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero kahit yung mga regional offices

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nila sa mga operations na ito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: continues to support

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the budget of the CHR

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we hope for

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: addition at the proper

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: time which the representation and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: many of our colleagues here

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will also move and support

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the support as well.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So that's all, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po ulit sa Commission

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on Human Rights and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the good sponsor.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu: Motion to suspend, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Representative Presley De Jesus

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the PHILRECA Party-list

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative De Jesus

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby recognized to interpellate.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Since all the questions

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: already been asked, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: members for the minority,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpellate,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the period of sponsorship

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate for the budget

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the Commission

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: on Human Rights. I so move,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on the part of the majority,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: we join the minority

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: in the motion to terminate

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: the period of interpellation

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on the proposed budget

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Commission on Human Rights.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Including all its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to clarify

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: with Representative De Jesus

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: if your motion includes

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the Commission

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: on Human Rights Violations

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Victims Memorial Commission.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, let me reiterate

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: my motion to termination.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpellate,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the period of sponsorship

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate for the budget

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the Commission on Human Rights

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and attached agencies.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Including the . . .

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: including Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Madam Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say?

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: on the part of the majority,

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: we join the minority in the motion

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: to terminate the period of interpellation

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the proposed budget

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: of the Commission on Human Rights

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: including the

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the interpellations on the proposed budget

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the Commission on Human Rights

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: including Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: on the proposed budget of said

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: agency is hereby terminated.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Madam Speaker, and to our distinguished

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: colleagues, maraming, maraming salamat po.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Noted.

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Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.: Motion to suspend.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: And for the purpose, Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the said department, namely Secretary Henry Rhoel Aguda; Chief of Staff Maria Teresa Magno Garcia; Undersecretary Heherson Asiddao.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Undersecretary Sarah Maria Sison; Undersecretary Leandro Angelo Aguirre; Undersecretary David Almirol Jr.; Undersecretary Leonido Pulido III; Undersecretary Rodil Aniban.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Undersecretary Christian Mark Guingcangco; Assistant Secretary Melvyn Carlo Barroa; Assistant Secretary Ryan Martin [unclear]; Assistant Secretary Maria Victoria Castro; Assistant Secretary Celine Melanie Dee; Assistant Secretary Pinky Jimenez; and Assistant Secretary Emmy Lou Versoza-Delfin.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Likewise representing the Cybercrime Investigation and Coordinating Center, Executive Director Renato Paraiso; the National Privacy Commission, Privacy Commissioner and Chairman Johann Carlos Barcena; and the National Telecommunications Commission, Commissioner Ella Blanca Lopez.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of DICT and its attached agencies. Welcome to the House of Representatives.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: And with regard to the motion of the Majority Leader, is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: I move, Madam Speaker, that we recognize Vice Chair Brian Poe, the vice chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Representative Vice Chair Brian Poe, [unclear]. Of course, the vice chairman of the Committee on Appropriations is hereby recognized to begin the sponsorship of the budget of DICT and its attached agencies. Vice Chair may now proceed with his sponsorship speech.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I happily address my colleagues here in plenary. I rise to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies. For fiscal year 2027, DICT and its attached agencies are proposing a total expenditure program of 19.49 billion pesos, an increase of 1.27 billion, or 7%, from fiscal year 2026.

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Rep. Brian Poe: A significant portion of this budget goes to ICT infrastructure. The ICT Systems and Information Infrastructure Program receives 3.85 billion, as well as 1.13 billion for the National Broadband Plan, up by 69.3%, and 949.5 million for the National Government Data Center, up 27%.

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Rep. Brian Poe: These investments are already producing results. The National Fiber Backbone has laid 3,026 kilometers of fiber; 59 of 136 backbone nodes have been activated. And the Philippine Digital Infrastructure Project has an estimated cost of 16.1 billion, with 2.16 billion programmed for fiscal year 2027.

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Rep. Brian Poe: For connectivity, DICT reported 29,091 active free Wi-Fi points across 11,839—sorry, I stand corrected—11,836 locations as of July 2026. The Free Public Internet Access Program has 5 billion pesos in automatic appropriations for fiscal year 2027.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Our digital government infrastructure is also operating at a significant scale. The eGov PH application has surpassed 61 million downloads

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Rep. Brian Poe: and 56 million verified accounts, while eGov DX has

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Rep. Brian Poe: processed more than 1.2 billion transactions and integrated over 1,300 government e-services.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Cybersecurity, the National Security Operations Center, has expanded its coverage from 10 government agencies in 2022 to 99 agencies as of August 2026, monitoring approximately 6.7 billion security alerts.

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Rep. Brian Poe: But as we support these investments, we must also look closely at implementation. DICT's fiscal year 2025 obligation rate was 61.7%, leaving approximately 9.16 billion in unused appropriations.

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Rep. Brian Poe: For the ICT Systems and Information Infrastructure Program, obligation was 43.5%. Disbursement was 22.6%.

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Rep. Brian Poe: These figures remind us that the measure of budget is not only what we appropriate, but what is actually delivered.

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Rep. Brian Poe: And while we recognize the progress made, we also recognize that there are many shortcomings still, not only in cybersecurity, but also in combating fake news and other areas of digital safety and governance.

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Rep. Brian Poe: These are challenges that will require continued work and scrutiny.

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Rep. Brian Poe: And while many may look at it as an opportunity to reduce funding for the agency, I see this as a challenge to increase funding where it is critically necessary.

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Rep. Brian Poe: These programs are of the utmost importance for the development of our country in this new age of innovation, AI, cybersecurity, and other threats.

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Rep. Brian Poe: So, Madam Speaker, with that, we are ready to take the questions of our distinguished colleagues, and I thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal of BH Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

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Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good evening, Madam Chair.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Good evening to my distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good evening.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And good evening to the DICT.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: On the mandate of DICT, distinguished colleague, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Chair, I want to start with DICT's mandate.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT is supposed to lead our national ICT agenda.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And under Republic Act 12254,

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: we have an even bigger responsibility for whole of government digitalization and interoperability.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, distinguished colleague, Mr. Secretary, are you actually fulfilling that mandate?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Because DICT should be more than Wi-Fi and connectivity.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: You should also make sure that government uses technology efficiently.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: For example, are we oversubscribed in cloud services?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do you know how much cloud capacity government is paying?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paying for versus actual average and peak?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: What about internet services? Are we paying for more bandwidth than government actually uses?

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: During our previous hearing, you told us Republic Act 12254 could save government at least 30% by eliminating repetitive common systems and subscriptions.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Have you already identified these duplications? How much can government actually save? And when will we see those savings?

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Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Those are very valid questions from my colleague. Let's go through it one by one very quickly.

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Rep. Brian Poe: So yes, Madam Speaker, DICT is implementing its mandate beyond the connectivity and moving towards a whole of government.

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Rep. Brian Poe: And that is currently being implemented through the DICT and its attached agencies.

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Rep. Brian Poe: For fiscal year 2027 alone, the department targets integration of 40 agencies with the Citizen Frontline Delivery Services Platform,

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Rep. Brian Poe: 30 agencies, each of which with HCMIS and IFMIS, and 30 agencies with OFMIS.

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Rep. Brian Poe: And that includes the Online Public Service Portal and Procurement Systems.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Regarding the concern on cloud and bandwidth and other common ICT requirements,

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Rep. Brian Poe: the objective of e-Government Act is precisely to give government greater visibility over what common requirements exist

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Rep. Brian Poe: and to avoid paying repeatedly for the same capabilities.

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Rep. Brian Poe: So the management mechanism that we have here, and its ability to validate across

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Rep. Brian Poe: 450 national agencies for compliance, is established within the eGov portfolio.

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Rep. Brian Poe: But we should not complain or I mean we should not claim, sorry, rather, that DICT is oversubscribed in terms of its cloud or bandwidth

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Rep. Brian Poe: because the submissions presently available to DICT do not yet establish government-wide average and peak utilization

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Rep. Brian Poe: across or against total contracted capacity.

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Rep. Brian Poe: So with that, we can...

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Rep. Brian Poe: We can commit to Congress to establish that a baseline through the inventory, portfolio management,

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Rep. Brian Poe: and interoperability mechanisms are being implemented under RA 12254.

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02:02:36.380 --> 02:02:42.800
Rep. Brian Poe: The 30% figure that my colleague brought up, Madam Speaker, is a very valid number to bring up

asr-001315
02:02:42.800 --> 02:02:44.840
Rep. Brian Poe: because we did make that commitment.

asr-001316
02:02:45.320 --> 02:02:51.540
Rep. Brian Poe: And the figure, therefore, should be treated at this stage as a potential cost avoidance estimate

asr-001317
02:02:52.340 --> 02:02:53.540
Rep. Brian Poe: from eliminating duplicative...

asr-001318
02:02:54.460 --> 02:03:00.480
Rep. Brian Poe: ...common systems and subscriptions, not yet as realized savings.

asr-001319
02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:03.320
Rep. Brian Poe: So really, this is the target that we hope to hit.

asr-001320
02:03:04.540 --> 02:03:08.980
Rep. Brian Poe: And yes, as of the last committee hearing that we had, Madam Speaker,

asr-001321
02:03:09.380 --> 02:03:15.300
Rep. Brian Poe: I do remember that the DICT is actively identifying where those duplications exist

asr-001322
02:03:15.300 --> 02:03:22.160
Rep. Brian Poe: and we're progressively moving towards a consolidated system, common ICT investments,

asr-001323
02:03:22.160 --> 02:03:23.920
Rep. Brian Poe: as agencies transition.

asr-001324
02:03:24.460 --> 02:03:32.440
Rep. Brian Poe: So I believe that we're really targeting that by the end of this administration,

asr-001325
02:03:32.440 --> 02:03:36.500
Rep. Brian Poe: we have a more centralized EGov system.

asr-001326
02:03:37.840 --> 02:03:39.880
Rep. Brian Poe: I hope that answers my colleague's questions.

asr-001327
02:03:39.880 --> 02:03:42.100
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Chair.

asr-001328
02:03:42.720 --> 02:03:49.140
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do we already have a number on the target in terms of the 30% savings that we will generate?

asr-001329
02:03:49.620 --> 02:03:51.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do we already have a figure?

asr-001330
02:03:52.060 --> 02:03:53.440
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, may I clarify?

asr-001331
02:03:53.660 --> 02:03:54.440
Rep. Brian Poe: A number on how much?

asr-001332
02:03:54.440 --> 02:03:55.680
Rep. Brian Poe: How much has been saved already?

asr-001333
02:03:55.900 --> 02:03:56.180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes.

asr-001334
02:03:56.640 --> 02:03:58.960
Rep. Brian Poe: Let me get back to you on that.

asr-001335
02:04:01.640 --> 02:04:08.620
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, the DICT's claim is that they don't have a set number yet,

asr-001336
02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:11.220
Rep. Brian Poe: although they are studying it.

asr-001337
02:04:11.800 --> 02:04:15.520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is there a target number in terms of savings?

asr-001338
02:04:16.100 --> 02:04:19.320
Rep. Brian Poe: For this year or for fiscal year 2027?

asr-001339
02:04:19.680 --> 02:04:20.920
Rep. Roberto Nazal: For this year.

asr-001340
02:04:21.260 --> 02:04:21.720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: For this year.

asr-001341
02:04:21.720 --> 02:04:22.740
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And fiscal year 2027.

asr-001342
02:04:24.440 --> 02:04:34.700
Rep. Brian Poe: But that's for this.

asr-001343
02:04:35.700 --> 02:04:38.040
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But for this year, we'll allow it.

asr-001344
02:04:38.840 --> 02:04:39.120
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay.

asr-001345
02:04:39.520 --> 02:04:42.900
Rep. Brian Poe: Because this is a new law, a newly passed law,

asr-001346
02:04:43.360 --> 02:04:47.720
Rep. Brian Poe: the actual estimated savings are for fiscal year 2027,

asr-001347
02:04:47.720 --> 02:04:52.720
Rep. Brian Poe: and we're looking at, if I'm not mistaken, 15 billion pesos in estimated savings

asr-001348
02:04:53.400 --> 02:04:53.720
Rep. Brian Poe: by removing

asr-001349
02:04:53.720 --> 02:04:55.360
Rep. Brian Poe: By removing these duplications.

asr-001350
02:04:56.900 --> 02:05:04.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Are we also looking at using AI to monitor all these systems?

asr-001351
02:05:04.020 --> 02:05:05.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So that...

asr-001352
02:05:05.840 --> 02:05:11.160
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, DICT can confirm that we are using AI.

asr-001353
02:05:12.140 --> 02:05:14.540
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

asr-001354
02:05:15.860 --> 02:05:17.820
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I'll go to my next question.

asr-001355
02:05:18.680 --> 02:05:21.860
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, during the previous hearing,

asr-001356
02:05:21.860 --> 02:05:29.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished Sponsor, I also raised that the DICT has a 9% obligation rate.

asr-001357
02:05:29.880 --> 02:05:33.360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: We are told now that this has improved to around 27%.

asr-001358
02:05:33.360 --> 02:05:35.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is this correct?

asr-001359
02:05:36.340 --> 02:05:39.860
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, Madam Speaker, I can confirm we've increased to 27%.

asr-001360
02:05:40.620 --> 02:05:43.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, okay naman po na hindi na 9%.

asr-001361
02:05:43.200 --> 02:05:49.960
Rep. Roberto Nazal: 27% na, pero I hope we shouldn't be happy with this, no?

asr-001362
02:05:50.440 --> 02:05:51.540
Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is still very low.

asr-001363
02:05:51.860 --> 02:05:58.800
Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I ask, why, what is stopping us from improving on the 27%?

asr-001364
02:05:59.400 --> 02:06:00.420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano ba ang problema natin?

asr-001365
02:06:00.580 --> 02:06:03.120
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I completely agree with my colleague.

asr-001366
02:06:03.280 --> 02:06:05.440
Rep. Brian Poe: 27% is not something to celebrate,

asr-001367
02:06:05.700 --> 02:06:08.600
Rep. Brian Poe: especially when there are so many other agencies that need funding.

asr-001368
02:06:09.280 --> 02:06:10.760
Rep. Brian Poe: But it is an improvement.

asr-001369
02:06:10.980 --> 02:06:14.540
Rep. Brian Poe: And I'll list down the things that are making it difficult.

asr-001370
02:06:15.120 --> 02:06:16.840
Rep. Brian Poe: One is procurement delays.

asr-001371
02:06:16.840 --> 02:06:21.840
Rep. Brian Poe: Two is the technical complexity of what DICT's management,

asr-001372
02:06:21.860 --> 02:06:23.880
Rep. Brian Poe: mandate, puts them in charge of.

asr-001373
02:06:24.200 --> 02:06:26.620
Rep. Brian Poe: Three is the timing of the release of funds.

asr-001374
02:06:27.100 --> 02:06:30.360
Rep. Brian Poe: Many of the releases were quite late this year for DICT.

asr-001375
02:06:30.820 --> 02:06:34.860
Rep. Brian Poe: And so, many of the funds are just now being released.

asr-001376
02:06:35.320 --> 02:06:38.360
Rep. Brian Poe: We also have a limited specialized manpower.

asr-001377
02:06:38.800 --> 02:06:45.420
Rep. Brian Poe: Unlike many other agencies, DICT requires a lot of specialized manpower, Madam Speaker.

asr-001378
02:06:45.420 --> 02:06:50.780
Rep. Brian Poe: And with that, we actually do need to increase the manpower of the agency

asr-001379
02:06:50.780 --> 02:06:51.620
Rep. Brian Poe: in order to...

asr-001380
02:06:51.860 --> 02:06:56.460
Rep. Brian Poe: ...increase its absorptive capacity and the services it provides.

asr-001381
02:06:56.460 --> 02:07:05.360
Rep. Brian Poe: Lastly, PDIP had two unsuccessful biddings and had to restructure its major procurement package.

asr-001382
02:07:05.360 --> 02:07:09.360
Rep. Brian Poe: And all of that combined leads to 27%.

asr-001383
02:07:09.360 --> 02:07:15.220
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What obligation rate, Mr. Sponsor, are we looking at for December 31?

asr-001384
02:07:21.860 --> 02:07:38.360
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, the agency is optimistically pointing out that we're looking at 90% completion by December.

asr-001385
02:07:38.900 --> 02:07:46.440
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, are we saying that considering what you've mentioned, Madam Chair and Mr. Sponsor,

asr-001386
02:07:47.540 --> 02:07:50.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: maaayos na po natin yung procurement issues,

asr-001387
02:07:50.900 --> 02:07:51.720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: all the funnels,

asr-001388
02:07:51.860 --> 02:07:53.900
Rep. Roberto Nazal: kung saan po tayo nagkaka-roadblock?

asr-001389
02:07:54.600 --> 02:07:56.520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: In terms of technical manpower,

asr-001390
02:07:57.200 --> 02:08:00.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: we will have all the technical manpower prior to that?

asr-001391
02:08:03.300 --> 02:08:06.460
Rep. Brian Poe: Just to clarify the target,

asr-001392
02:08:06.600 --> 02:08:08.940
Rep. Brian Poe: as of today, we're at 35% already.

asr-001393
02:08:09.420 --> 02:08:09.980
Rep. Brian Poe: As of today.

asr-001394
02:08:11.240 --> 02:08:13.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And we are expecting how much? 90?

asr-001395
02:08:13.840 --> 02:08:14.320
Rep. Brian Poe: 90%.

asr-001396
02:08:14.320 --> 02:08:16.640
Rep. Brian Poe: And if you think about it,

asr-001397
02:08:16.660 --> 02:08:18.480
Rep. Brian Poe: when we had the initial data to today,

asr-001398
02:08:18.480 --> 02:08:21.480
Rep. Brian Poe: we already moved up 9%.

asr-001399
02:08:21.860 --> 02:08:23.000
Rep. Brian Poe: More or less.

asr-001400
02:08:23.480 --> 02:08:24.780
Rep. Brian Poe: If we continue at this rate,

asr-001401
02:08:24.860 --> 02:08:27.200
Rep. Brian Poe: we could possibly hit our target of 90%.

asr-001402
02:08:27.200 --> 02:08:30.720
Rep. Brian Poe: One of the things that the agency had to deal with

asr-001403
02:08:30.720 --> 02:08:33.920
Rep. Brian Poe: was really just waiting for the download of funding.

asr-001404
02:08:34.920 --> 02:08:38.420
Rep. Brian Poe: And so, there was time to already streamline some of the processes

asr-001405
02:08:38.420 --> 02:08:41.940
Rep. Brian Poe: for the release of these funds and the activation on the ground.

asr-001406
02:08:42.180 --> 02:08:45.280
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what you're saying, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

asr-001407
02:08:46.040 --> 02:08:50.360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: is that maayos na po tayo in terms of the procurement process

asr-001408
02:08:50.360 --> 02:08:51.840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: and all the technical manpower.

asr-001409
02:08:51.860 --> 02:08:55.640
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But our main problem right now is the DBM.

asr-001410
02:08:56.700 --> 02:09:01.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how long, and kailan natin natatanggap yung pera?

asr-001411
02:09:01.940 --> 02:09:02.480
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is this correct?

asr-001412
02:09:10.540 --> 02:09:14.880
Rep. Brian Poe: The reason why is not necessarily DBM.

asr-001413
02:09:15.180 --> 02:09:17.860
Rep. Brian Poe: It turns out it's because the awarding of major projects

asr-001414
02:09:17.860 --> 02:09:20.860
Rep. Brian Poe: to the DICT

asr-001415
02:09:21.860 --> 02:09:23.260
Rep. Brian Poe: will take place within this quarter.

asr-001416
02:09:23.940 --> 02:09:25.580
Rep. Brian Poe: So, once those have been awarded already,

asr-001417
02:09:25.800 --> 02:09:27.320
Rep. Brian Poe: that would be immediately dispersed.

asr-001418
02:09:27.500 --> 02:09:30.560
Rep. Brian Poe: But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the DBM.

asr-001419
02:09:30.980 --> 02:09:34.440
Rep. Roberto Nazal: When were these projects supposed to be procured?

asr-001420
02:09:35.580 --> 02:09:36.940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: When did they start?

asr-001421
02:09:49.900 --> 02:09:51.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But when did it start?

asr-001422
02:09:51.860 --> 02:10:06.400
Rep. Brian Poe: At the start of the year

asr-001426
02:10:14.060 --> 02:10:20.140
Rep. Brian Poe: So, PDIP, which constitutes 4 billion pesos, Madam Speaker,

asr-001427
02:10:20.140 --> 02:10:21.260
Rep. Brian Poe: is a big chunk of it.

asr-001428
02:10:21.260 --> 02:10:22.920
Rep. Brian Poe: And the reason why it was delayed

asr-001429
02:10:22.920 --> 02:10:25.640
Rep. Brian Poe: was because earlier this year, dear colleague,

asr-001430
02:10:26.160 --> 02:10:27.540
Rep. Brian Poe: they actually had a failed bidding.

asr-001431
02:10:28.240 --> 02:10:31.660
Rep. Brian Poe: So, now it's proceeding, but it's proceeding in October.

asr-001432
02:10:32.340 --> 02:10:35.380
Rep. Brian Poe: So, that's why the 4 billion will be released quite later.

asr-001433
02:10:35.400 --> 02:10:38.180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But this was a project procurement for 2026 or 2025?

asr-001434
02:10:40.320 --> 02:10:43.460
Rep. Brian Poe: It's a continuing from 2025 to 2026.

asr-001435
02:10:44.380 --> 02:10:44.980
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay.

asr-001436
02:10:45.600 --> 02:10:48.000
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Let me go to my next question.

asr-001437
02:10:48.000 --> 02:10:49.940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Having said that,

asr-001438
02:10:50.420 --> 02:10:51.240
Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT's

asr-001439
02:10:51.260 --> 02:10:54.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: absorptive capacity remains a problem,

asr-001440
02:10:54.880 --> 02:10:57.380
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I also want to be fair to the agency.

asr-001441
02:10:58.320 --> 02:11:02.960
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi lahat ng hindi nababayaran ay necessarily Absorptive Capacity problem.

asr-001442
02:11:04.180 --> 02:11:07.360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT's September 15 submission says

asr-001443
02:11:07.720 --> 02:11:09.720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: that as of August 31,

asr-001444
02:11:10.320 --> 02:11:15.800
Rep. Roberto Nazal: you had approximately 1.29 billion in accounts payable.

asr-001445
02:11:16.200 --> 02:11:21.060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Of that, approximately 1.049 billion pertains to

asr-001446
02:11:21.060 --> 02:11:26.560
Rep. Roberto Nazal: valid and duly supported obligations from 2024 and 2025

asr-001447
02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:29.560
Rep. Roberto Nazal: that are already due and demandable.

asr-001448
02:11:30.560 --> 02:11:36.060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: You also say additional NCA from DBM is needed to settle these obligations.

asr-001449
02:11:36.660 --> 02:11:40.060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, for this 1.049 billion,

asr-001450
02:11:40.560 --> 02:11:44.660
Rep. Roberto Nazal: is the problem now lack of cash authority from DBM

asr-001451
02:11:44.860 --> 02:11:47.460
Rep. Roberto Nazal: rather than lack of appropriation?

asr-001452
02:11:51.060 --> 02:12:04.260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: How much additional NCA do you need today to settle all valid, due, and demandable obligations?

asr-001454
02:12:07.720 --> 02:12:20.620
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, I can confirm that there is a payable of 1.049 billion and this, actually, we do need an additional allocation.

asr-001455
02:12:20.620 --> 02:12:22.620
Rep. Brian Poe: In order to pay for.

asr-001456
02:12:24.620 --> 02:12:29.620
Rep. Brian Poe: And these are considered as milestone payments, Madam Speaker.

asr-001457
02:12:32.620 --> 02:12:36.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker,

asr-001458
02:12:38.620 --> 02:12:43.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: if these are already valid, duly supported, and due and demandable obligations,

asr-001459
02:12:43.620 --> 02:12:46.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: and DICT submits the complete requirements,

asr-001460
02:12:46.620 --> 02:12:49.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang assumption po natin dito is complete na yung requirements nito.

asr-001461
02:12:50.620 --> 02:12:51.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Everything is complete.

asr-001462
02:12:54.620 --> 02:13:01.620
Rep. Brian Poe: So, Madam Speaker, I can confirm that all the requirements needed to request for additional funding for NCA from DBM

asr-001463
02:13:01.620 --> 02:13:05.620
Rep. Brian Poe: is complete and it's actually subject for approval already.

asr-001464
02:13:06.620 --> 02:13:07.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what is the reason?

asr-001465
02:13:08.620 --> 02:13:14.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What are they saying is the reason why hindi pa ito nababayaran?

asr-001466
02:13:14.620 --> 02:13:15.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bakit po?

asr-001467
02:13:15.620 --> 02:13:17.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What is the reason for the delay?

asr-001468
02:13:18.620 --> 02:13:19.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Why is there no NCA?

asr-001479
02:13:45.500 --> 02:13:46.600
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Could you pause my time, please?

asr-001480
02:13:48.100 --> 02:13:48.400
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay.

asr-001481
02:13:48.620 --> 02:13:56.860
Rep. Brian Poe: The documents were submitted first semester of this year—sorry, third quarter of this year, dear colleague.

asr-001482
02:13:57.100 --> 02:14:02.380
Rep. Brian Poe: So that probably explains why until now the release has not yet been approved.

asr-001483
02:14:02.980 --> 02:14:05.560
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So that's what I do not understand.

asr-001484
02:14:06.080 --> 02:14:15.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bakit po inabot tayo ng third quarter of this year to complete the requirements for something that is due and demandable since 2024?

asr-001485
02:14:15.120 --> 02:14:18.180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you make me understand?

asr-001489
02:14:34.620 --> 02:14:40.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Why? Why wasn't it submitted? We already knew that this was going to be a project.

asr-001492
02:14:45.620 --> 02:14:47.620
Rep. Brian Poe: So it turns out that

asr-001494
02:14:48.620 --> 02:14:56.880
Rep. Brian Poe: The reason why there was a delay in the submission of the necessary documents was they needed to compile the requirements from the suppliers, etc.

asr-001495
02:14:57.060 --> 02:14:59.980
Rep. Brian Poe: And they were only able to do so later this year.

asr-001496
02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:05.720
Rep. Brian Poe: So, the delay is a mix of agency as well as suppliers.

asr-001497
02:15:11.340 --> 02:15:21.000
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What I cannot understand is that the DICT should be the number one digital agency in our country.

asr-001498
02:15:21.620 --> 02:15:24.100
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kayo po ang lead sa lahat.

asr-001499
02:15:24.540 --> 02:15:28.820
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, dapat po, kung meron man madi-delay, hindi po dapat kayo.

asr-001500
02:15:28.820 --> 02:15:32.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Dear colleague, I completely understand where you're coming from.

asr-001501
02:15:32.840 --> 02:15:39.820
Rep. Brian Poe: If there's any agency that should move quickly on a digitalized procurement and documentation process, it should be the DICT.

asr-001502
02:15:41.200 --> 02:15:46.820
Rep. Brian Poe: So, I believe I can get a commitment from the agency that they will improve their procurement processes.

asr-001503
02:15:48.220 --> 02:15:55.580
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Saka po, you know, distinguished sponsor, you know how easy it is now to review everything. We have AI.

asr-001504
02:15:57.200 --> 02:15:58.580
Rep. Brian Poe: But I hope...

asr-001505
02:15:58.820 --> 02:16:05.020
Rep. Brian Poe: I know that the DICT is going to work towards better digitalization in terms of its bureaucracy.

asr-001506
02:16:05.540 --> 02:16:13.200
Rep. Brian Poe: Pero sana din pati yung suppliers ng DICT, dito tayo abot sa compatibility ng data.

asr-001507
02:16:13.740 --> 02:16:20.480
Rep. Brian Poe: So, sana yung mga suppliers din ng DICT are up to standard in terms of their digitization para wala ng bottleneck.

asr-001508
02:16:20.980 --> 02:16:21.940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes, I agree.

asr-001509
02:16:21.940 --> 02:16:28.760
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But of course, my understanding is that if you look at the way the DICT is paying,

asr-001510
02:16:28.820 --> 02:16:33.800
Rep. Roberto Nazal: walang supplier na magsusurvive sa ganitong sitwasyon.

asr-001511
02:16:34.640 --> 02:16:39.660
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, the suppliers are effectively front-loading everything.

asr-001512
02:16:41.080 --> 02:16:50.320
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I understand that this disincentivizes some of our suppliers and potential investors

asr-001513
02:16:50.320 --> 02:16:56.640
Rep. Brian Poe: if this is how our lead digital agency deals with its documentation and disbursement processes.

asr-001514
02:16:56.640 --> 02:16:58.120
Rep. Brian Poe: But rest assured,

asr-001515
02:16:58.820 --> 02:17:04.840
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, within this year, this outstanding balance should be settled by the DICT.

asr-001516
02:17:11.080 --> 02:17:19.520
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, if I may also note that 90% of cash downloaded by the DBM has already been utilized.

asr-001517
02:17:19.520 --> 02:17:23.880
Rep. Brian Poe: So, it's really just a question of whether or not the funding is downloaded.

asr-001518
02:17:24.080 --> 02:17:27.220
Rep. Brian Poe: Once it is, it's immediately utilized by the agency.

asr-001519
02:17:27.340 --> 02:17:28.520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, it's really a factor.

asr-001520
02:17:28.820 --> 02:17:29.360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, it's really a funding issue.

asr-001521
02:17:31.360 --> 02:17:35.120
Rep. Brian Poe: Yeah, I would say that a big chunk of it would be.

asr-001522
02:17:36.180 --> 02:17:41.220
Rep. Brian Poe: And I hope that this can be streamlined on the agency side.

asr-001523
02:17:41.220 --> 02:17:46.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, let us now go to earmarked funds.

asr-001524
02:17:47.500 --> 02:17:50.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

asr-001525
02:17:51.080 --> 02:17:55.320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: separate from the regular budget of DICT,

asr-001526
02:17:56.000 --> 02:17:57.940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: ano naman ang absorptive capacity?

asr-001527
02:17:58.820 --> 02:18:02.100
Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng DICT when it comes to earmarked funds?

asr-001528
02:18:06.660 --> 02:18:11.840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Lagi kasi namin kayong pinaglalaban because digitalization needs money.

asr-001529
02:18:12.580 --> 02:18:13.360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And I know that.

asr-001530
02:18:13.360 --> 02:18:20.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And if we should be spending on anything, it should be, we should prioritize the digital infrastructure.

asr-001531
02:18:21.080 --> 02:18:28.280
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pero kung may malaking problema, yung earmarked balance naman at hindi ninyo nagagastos, ano ba ang problema?

asr-001532
02:18:28.820 --> 02:18:37.100
Rep. Brian Poe: In terms of the earmarked funds, Madam Speaker, we're talking about the free Wi-Fi.

asr-001533
02:18:37.100 --> 02:18:42.440
Rep. Brian Poe: And that's at 61% in terms of utilization.

asr-001534
02:18:44.180 --> 02:18:50.320
Rep. Brian Poe: So, that speaks to the absorptive capacity of the agency to be able to utilize the earmarked funds.

asr-001535
02:18:51.200 --> 02:18:52.100
Rep. Brian Poe: But yes, 61%.

asr-001536
02:18:52.740 --> 02:18:58.420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And that is what I cannot reconcile, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

asr-001537
02:18:58.820 --> 02:19:05.420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Twelve digital systems hosted on the E-Gov PH were temporarily disabled

asr-001538
02:19:05.420 --> 02:19:09.480
Rep. Roberto Nazal: because DICT could not pay for cloud server space.

asr-001539
02:19:10.480 --> 02:19:12.880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Twelve government systems went down.

asr-001540
02:19:14.280 --> 02:19:15.340
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, meron kayong pera.

asr-001541
02:19:16.140 --> 02:19:17.060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paano po nangyari ito?

asr-001542
02:19:17.980 --> 02:19:19.000
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano ba nangyari talaga?

asr-001543
02:19:19.120 --> 02:19:21.080
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you explain?

asr-001544
02:19:21.920 --> 02:19:23.280
Rep. Roberto Nazal: How much was unpaid?

asr-001545
02:19:24.100 --> 02:19:24.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: To whom?

asr-001546
02:19:25.140 --> 02:19:26.720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: How long were the systems down?

asr-001547
02:19:26.720 --> 02:19:27.140
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Down.

asr-001548
02:19:27.700 --> 02:19:28.720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And was this all...

asr-001549
02:19:28.820 --> 02:19:29.860
Rep. Roberto Nazal: It's also an NCA problem.

asr-001550
02:19:47.980 --> 02:19:49.360
Rep. Brian Poe: Yung time,

asr-001551
02:19:49.460 --> 02:19:57.180
Rep. Brian Poe: It went down because, Madam Speaker, dear colleague, we had a surge of 700% in terms of its use.

asr-001552
02:19:57.720 --> 02:19:58.800
Rep. Brian Poe: So, the systems weren't...

asr-001553
02:19:58.820 --> 02:20:01.100
Rep. Brian Poe: We weren't able to handle that much.

asr-001554
02:20:02.140 --> 02:20:05.060
Rep. Brian Poe: And therefore, the systems went down for a short period of time.

asr-001555
02:20:10.140 --> 02:20:20.740
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, it was only down for five hours on day one and six hours on day two.

asr-001556
02:20:21.580 --> 02:20:28.060
Rep. Brian Poe: But this is definitely because no one was able to predict a 700% surge in the use.

asr-001557
02:20:29.700 --> 02:20:33.320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paano po ba nangyari yung surge?

asr-001558
02:20:33.800 --> 02:20:41.220
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I mean, during that day or the day before that or the month before, ilan na ba yung gumagamit?

asr-001559
02:20:50.860 --> 02:20:54.500
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, was it only on that day na talagang nagkaroon ng surge?

asr-001560
02:20:55.080 --> 02:20:56.880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And the capacity could not absorb it?

asr-001561
02:20:57.340 --> 02:20:58.660
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, it...

asr-001562
02:20:58.660 --> 02:20:59.260
Rep. Brian Poe: It turns...

asr-001563
02:20:59.260 --> 02:21:10.440
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Speaker, it turns out that the cloud services ended up running out of credits because of the overuse.

asr-001564
02:21:10.440 --> 02:21:13.140
Rep. Brian Poe: And that's how we ended up with that surge.

asr-001565
02:21:14.620 --> 02:21:15.400
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Running out of credit.

asr-001566
02:21:16.020 --> 02:21:18.340
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, that means, hindi po natin...

asr-001567
02:21:18.340 --> 02:21:25.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: We didn't have enough cash or money allotted for the capacity.

asr-001568
02:21:25.700 --> 02:21:27.440
Rep. Brian Poe: We didn't, Madam Speaker...

asr-001569
02:21:28.660 --> 02:21:38.520
Rep. Brian Poe: We didn't have enough budget enough for the surge that basically no one within the agency predicted that there would be a 700% surge in the use.

asr-001570
02:21:38.960 --> 02:21:42.640
Rep. Brian Poe: And therefore, the cloud services that were contracted weren't enough.

asr-001571
02:21:42.800 --> 02:21:48.340
Rep. Brian Poe: And therefore, we needed to procure more in order to adapt to the capacity required.

asr-001572
02:21:49.740 --> 02:21:55.420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, that's where I'm puzzled, Distinguished Sponsor.

asr-001575
02:21:56.800 --> 02:22:02.700
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nag-down ang 12 government systems dahil kulang tayo sa pambayad sa cloud.

asr-001576
02:22:04.040 --> 02:22:06.880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: But you have earmarked revenues.

asr-001577
02:22:08.260 --> 02:22:15.180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron po kayong pera na dapat kayo mismo ay may access doon at madali niyong magamit.

asr-001578
02:22:15.560 --> 02:22:19.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And this is for free Wi-Fi and for our cloud services.

asr-001579
02:22:19.880 --> 02:22:20.120
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

asr-001580
02:22:20.600 --> 02:22:25.920
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, regarding that concern, that's correct that there are earmarked funds.

asr-001581
02:22:25.920 --> 02:22:27.840
Rep. Brian Poe: I don't...

asr-001582
02:22:27.840 --> 02:22:31.290
Rep. Roberto Nazal: All of it?

asr-001582-split-2
02:22:31.290 --> 02:22:34.040
Rep. Brian Poe: Right.

asr-001583
02:22:34.040 --> 02:22:40.560
Rep. Brian Poe: So, it's not included in the earmarked funds as part of the automatic use.

asr-001584
02:22:41.180 --> 02:22:47.500
Rep. Brian Poe: So, for data, we're unable to use those earmarked funds in order to fund cloud data.

asr-001585
02:22:48.500 --> 02:22:51.040
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Are we expecting this to happen again?

asr-001586
02:22:51.040 --> 02:22:57.320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or do we have enough funds already and credits, so-called credits, to cover any surge in the future?

asr-001587
02:22:57.880 --> 02:22:58.040
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And do...

asr-001588
02:22:58.540 --> 02:23:02.580
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Do we have access to the earmarked funds para hindi na ito mangyari ulit?

asr-001589
02:23:02.580 --> 02:23:10.420
Rep. Brian Poe: So based on the eGov law, Madam Speaker, we do have enough funds to maintain.

asr-001590
02:23:11.600 --> 02:23:15.460
Rep. Brian Poe: But that doesn't necessarily mean that we are at optimal.

asr-001591
02:23:15.900 --> 02:23:20.580
Rep. Brian Poe: If I'm not mistaken, the budget that we're being given for these cloud services...

asr-001592
02:23:21.100 --> 02:23:25.300
Rep. Brian Poe: I mean, for our data services is about 949 million.

asr-001593
02:23:26.080 --> 02:23:27.580
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: For the indulgence of...

asr-001595
02:23:27.880 --> 02:23:31.780
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: For the honorable Nazal, if he could kindly wind up.

asr-001596
02:23:32.580 --> 02:23:32.860
Rep. Brian Poe: Right.

asr-001597
02:23:33.040 --> 02:23:35.820
Rep. Brian Poe: So, 949 million for eGov.

asr-001598
02:23:35.960 --> 02:23:40.920
Rep. Brian Poe: But the reality is, we actually need additional funds for redundancies.

asr-001599
02:23:41.160 --> 02:23:47.760
Rep. Brian Poe: We need additional funds for emergency systems, which we don't have currently.

asr-001600
02:23:48.200 --> 02:23:51.060
Rep. Brian Poe: So, if you're wondering why there's a risk of it going down,

asr-001601
02:23:51.360 --> 02:23:54.860
Rep. Brian Poe: it's partly because we're underfunding this specific program.

asr-001602
02:23:54.860 --> 02:23:57.760
Rep. Brian Poe: But the law does provide for the bare minimum required.

asr-001603
02:23:57.880 --> 02:24:00.800
Rep. Brian Poe: to operate and maintain eGov.

asr-001604
02:24:00.800 --> 02:24:05.860
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what is the funding actually needed for us to be able to support?

asr-001605
02:24:10.740 --> 02:24:14.520
Rep. Brian Poe: The request is 1.8 billion, Madam Speaker.

asr-001606
02:24:15.940 --> 02:24:20.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, bakit pa po natin kunin ito sa USF?

asr-001607
02:24:20.120 --> 02:24:22.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Um...

asr-001608
02:24:22.120 --> 02:24:24.120
Rep. Brian Poe: Because...

asr-001609
02:24:24.880 --> 02:24:26.120
Rep. Brian Poe: ...

asr-001610
02:24:27.880 --> 02:24:36.040
Rep. Brian Poe: Well, that's a very valid point that the USF could possibly be used,

asr-001611
02:24:36.100 --> 02:24:39.440
Rep. Brian Poe: or earmarked funds could possibly be used for cloud services.

asr-001612
02:24:39.860 --> 02:24:45.400
Rep. Brian Poe: However, unfortunately, that is not within the purview of the agency to decide that.

asr-001613
02:24:45.820 --> 02:24:50.600
Rep. Brian Poe: I believe that is a call of the DBM, if I'm not mistaken, Madam Speaker.

asr-001614
02:24:50.600 --> 02:24:50.820
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay.

asr-001615
02:24:53.520 --> 02:24:57.760
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Maybe due to lack of time, I just have to bring this up.

asr-001616
02:24:58.140 --> 02:25:02.940
Rep. Roberto Nazal: During our previous hearing also, we already discussed that much of the government data is hosted abroad.

asr-001617
02:25:03.400 --> 02:25:07.080
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And that DICT needs local availability zones or data centers.

asr-001618
02:25:08.160 --> 02:25:09.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi ko na po ulitin yun.

asr-001619
02:25:09.660 --> 02:25:12.520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang follow-up ko lang, kailan matatapos ang migration?

asr-001620
02:25:18.700 --> 02:25:25.080
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What percentage of critical government data and workloads will be locally hosted by end of November 26?

asr-001621
02:25:25.380 --> 02:25:27.440
Rep. Roberto Nazal: By end of November 2027?

asr-001622
02:25:27.880 --> 02:25:30.260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And when will migration be substantially completed?

asr-001623
02:25:34.000 --> 02:25:39.360
Rep. Brian Poe: By the end of this year, we're looking at 20% of critical government data would be localized.

asr-001624
02:25:40.060 --> 02:25:45.320
Rep. Brian Poe: We currently have one server that is up in Subic.

asr-001625
02:25:46.180 --> 02:25:48.320
Rep. Brian Poe: One data center that's up in Subic.

asr-001626
02:25:48.320 --> 02:25:55.340
Rep. Brian Poe: And we're hoping that we'll be able to localize our government data all by 2028.

asr-001627
02:25:55.980 --> 02:25:57.860
Rep. Brian Poe: That's the goal, Madam Speaker.

asr-001628
02:25:57.880 --> 02:26:01.900
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how much is needed to localize everything by 2028?

asr-001629
02:26:05.340 --> 02:26:12.200
Rep. Brian Poe: Based on the feasibility studies, DICT is projecting 8 billion in costs, Madam Speaker.

asr-001630
02:26:19.820 --> 02:26:23.880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor, I go back to where I started.

asr-001631
02:26:25.460 --> 02:26:27.720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT's mandate is much bigger than Wi-Fi.

asr-001636
02:26:27.800 --> 02:26:30.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: connectivity, computers and subscriptions.

asr-001637
02:26:31.100 --> 02:26:35.700
Rep. Roberto Nazal: DICT is supposed to lead the digital transformation of government.

asr-001638
02:26:36.580 --> 02:26:42.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: That means efficient ICT spending, reliable e-gov systems, interoperable databases,

asr-001639
02:26:42.880 --> 02:26:46.520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: trusted digital identity, transparent government processes,

asr-001640
02:26:47.380 --> 02:26:52.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: and public spending that citizens can digitally trace.

asr-001641
02:26:52.860 --> 02:26:57.640
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Lagi naman natin pinaglalaban na mabigyan kayo ng sapat na resources ang DICT,

asr-001642
02:26:57.880 --> 02:27:19.840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Because digitalization is essential. But if you need more money, tell Congress exactly what you need and what it will deliver. And if the money is already available, particularly from earmarked resources, then we need to understand why it is not being converted into reliable government services. Thank you, Madam Chair.

asr-001643
02:27:19.840 --> 02:27:31.000
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I want to thank our colleague for his constructive questions. They're very valid and they really point to the needs of the agency.

asr-001644
02:27:35.000 --> 02:27:36.140
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-001645
02:27:37.280 --> 02:27:49.780
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: To further interpellate on the proposed budget, Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the representative of Kabataan Party-list,

asr-001646
02:27:49.840 --> 02:27:53.300
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Representative Renee Louise Co.

asr-001647
02:27:54.160 --> 02:27:59.280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Honorable Renee Louise Co of Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

asr-001648
02:28:00.080 --> 02:28:07.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Chair. And good evening to our distinguished sponsor and to DICT.

asr-001649
02:28:07.980 --> 02:28:17.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So may this distinguished sponsor yield to a couple of questions regarding the budget of DICT?

asr-001650
02:28:18.040 --> 02:28:19.640
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, it would be my privilege.

asr-001651
02:28:19.840 --> 02:28:23.020
Rep. Brian Poe: It would be my privilege to answer the questions of my dear colleague.

asr-001652
02:28:23.560 --> 02:28:25.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-001653
02:28:25.820 --> 02:28:34.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, my first line of questioning would be in relation to the free public internet access program,

asr-001654
02:28:34.280 --> 02:28:40.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which this representation thanks the DICT for the report that it has provided,

asr-001655
02:28:40.580 --> 02:28:49.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: giving more detail as to which locations, which schools, which SUCs have already,

asr-001656
02:28:49.840 --> 02:28:58.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: established connections for free public internet access, and which ones are yet to be established.

asr-001657
02:28:58.440 --> 02:29:08.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So we've noted that for basic and secondary public educational institutions,

asr-001658
02:29:08.780 --> 02:29:16.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: there are more unconnected public schools in Region 5, more than in other regions.

asr-001659
02:29:16.980 --> 02:29:19.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May we ask, perhaps, why this is so?

asr-001660
02:29:19.840 --> 02:29:28.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is there a greater difficulty in accessing regions or locations in Region 5, for example?

asr-001661
02:29:34.440 --> 02:29:39.300
Rep. Brian Poe: So it's actually not necessarily a technical difficulty.

asr-001662
02:29:39.560 --> 02:29:48.320
Rep. Brian Poe: It's more of a prioritization from DepEd on which areas would receive, I guess, the services first and get connected.

asr-001663
02:29:49.840 --> 02:29:59.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So is it to say that there's no one explanation as to why there's this number of unconnected public schools?

asr-001665
02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:16.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, we just noted that in Region 5, there's 70 locations that are being targeted to put up an internet connection or a free internet connection for, which is more than the other regions.

asr-001666
02:30:16.180 --> 02:30:28.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For example, the next region which has more number of locations na kailangan ng connection would be already NIR at 38.

asr-001667
02:30:28.480 --> 02:30:36.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, yung 70 ng Region 5, it just stands out. So, meron po bang particular reason? If any, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-001668
02:30:46.080 --> 02:30:54.460
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay. So, out of the 45,000 target schools of DepEd, 11,000 were connected by DICT.

asr-001669
02:30:54.460 --> 02:30:58.460
Rep. Brian Poe: However, the remaining were supposedly already connected by...

asr-001670
02:30:58.480 --> 02:31:03.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, parang may connection na po. Ganon. So, hindi priority.

asr-001671
02:31:03.860 --> 02:31:13.100
Rep. Brian Poe: There should be a connection. Although, what I know, dear colleague, is that there are some areas wherein they were connected and now there are problems with connection.

asr-001672
02:31:13.660 --> 02:31:21.380
Rep. Brian Poe: And there are other areas from based on testimonies I've heard in which they don't have connection or are requesting for connection still.

asr-001673
02:31:21.380 --> 02:31:27.840
Rep. Brian Poe: So, while the numbers reported to us is that on paper, we know that we have high connectivity.

asr-001674
02:31:28.480 --> 02:31:31.240
Rep. Brian Poe: And that there are several areas that have been connected and we're...

asr-001675
02:31:31.240 --> 02:31:33.340
Rep. Brian Poe: What's the DepEd number? We're at 90%?

asr-001676
02:31:36.160 --> 02:31:40.160
Rep. Brian Poe: We're at 99.39% in terms of connectivity.

asr-001677
02:31:41.340 --> 02:31:48.120
Rep. Brian Poe: However, and this is where I need the help of my colleagues as well as the other members who are present.

asr-001678
02:31:48.940 --> 02:31:57.560
Rep. Brian Poe: If you could give me a list of all the schools that don't have access, aren't connected, or were connected and lost their connection,

asr-001690
02:31:57.800 --> 02:32:07.760
Rep. Brian Poe: And I would gladly work with my colleague to call the attention of DICT to make sure that these areas are reconnected or are connected as per the mandate of DICT.

asr-001691
02:32:08.340 --> 02:32:10.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for that opening, Madam Speaker.

asr-001692
02:32:11.100 --> 02:32:11.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor.

asr-001693
02:32:12.240 --> 02:32:22.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At the proper time, this representation would also like to submit any of the information and requests that it has gathered regarding that.

asr-001694
02:32:22.600 --> 02:32:28.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But in relation to that point, at ito rin po yung nakalagay sa report na,

asr-001695
02:32:28.480 --> 02:32:41.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ilahad ng DICT that the NEP for fiscal year 2027 provides for the maintenance and operation of more than 16,000 free Wi-Fi locations established in 2026.

asr-001696
02:32:41.660 --> 02:32:51.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But to ensure the continued availability of free Wi-Fi in public schools, an additional 3 billion is necessary for the maintenance and operation of existing school sites.

asr-001697
02:32:52.020 --> 02:32:58.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At iba pa yung tier 2 budget request na 10 billion plus for the expansion of free Wi-Fi to other priorities.

asr-001698
02:32:58.480 --> 02:33:00.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: public service locations. So to clarify

asr-001699
02:33:00.720 --> 02:33:02.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, itong

asr-001700
02:33:02.720 --> 02:33:04.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 3 billion, additional 3 billion

asr-001701
02:33:04.500 --> 02:33:06.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the continued

asr-001702
02:33:06.500 --> 02:33:08.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: availability, hindi pa po ito granted?

asr-001703
02:33:09.660 --> 02:33:10.180
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

asr-001704
02:33:10.780 --> 02:33:11.240
Rep. Brian Poe: Hindi pa.

asr-001705
02:33:11.840 --> 02:33:14.840
Rep. Brian Poe: Hindi pa granted because the only thing that I'm sure

asr-001706
02:33:14.840 --> 02:33:16.100
Rep. Brian Poe: will be granted

asr-001707
02:33:16.100 --> 02:33:18.640
Rep. Brian Poe: is the continuing appropriation

asr-001708
02:33:18.640 --> 02:33:20.620
Rep. Brian Poe: from the spectrum user fee, which

asr-001709
02:33:20.620 --> 02:33:22.560
Rep. Brian Poe: is the earmark fund for free WiFi.

asr-001710
02:33:23.080 --> 02:33:24.300
Rep. Brian Poe: But the additional funds,

asr-001711
02:33:24.640 --> 02:33:26.920
Rep. Brian Poe: the request, the 3 billion,

asr-001712
02:33:26.920 --> 02:33:28.820
Rep. Brian Poe: will have to come from us

asr-001713
02:33:28.820 --> 02:33:30.460
Rep. Brian Poe: allocating it in the

asr-001714
02:33:30.460 --> 02:33:32.860
Rep. Brian Poe: GAA. But to be

asr-001715
02:33:32.860 --> 02:33:34.920
Rep. Brian Poe: clear, the reason why we have that increase

asr-001716
02:33:34.920 --> 02:33:37.140
Rep. Brian Poe: is because as we increase our connections,

asr-001717
02:33:37.600 --> 02:33:38.860
Rep. Brian Poe: of course the maintenance of these

asr-001718
02:33:38.860 --> 02:33:40.920
Rep. Brian Poe: connections will require an additional

asr-001719
02:33:40.920 --> 02:33:42.960
Rep. Brian Poe: fund, which was not available from

asr-001720
02:33:42.960 --> 02:33:44.960
Rep. Brian Poe: the earmark previous. So

asr-001721
02:33:44.960 --> 02:33:46.800
Rep. Brian Poe: hopefully we're able to get that. But the

asr-001722
02:33:46.800 --> 02:33:48.620
Rep. Brian Poe: expansion is necessary. So

asr-001723
02:33:48.620 --> 02:33:50.980
Rep. Brian Poe: on the DepEd level, ang commitment is

asr-001724
02:33:50.980 --> 02:33:52.940
Rep. Brian Poe: that na mga elementary schools

asr-001725
02:33:52.940 --> 02:33:54.860
Rep. Brian Poe: would be connected. Pero

asr-001726
02:33:54.860 --> 02:33:56.640
Rep. Brian Poe: hindi pa kasama yung mga

asr-001727
02:33:56.640 --> 02:33:57.480
Rep. Brian Poe: universities,

asr-001728
02:33:58.540 --> 02:33:59.260
Rep. Brian Poe: SUCs.

asr-001729
02:34:00.100 --> 02:34:02.740
Rep. Brian Poe: So that's yung expansion na kailangan natin.

asr-001730
02:34:03.140 --> 02:34:04.820
Rep. Brian Poe: So yung mga iba na may complaint na wala

asr-001731
02:34:04.820 --> 02:34:06.260
Rep. Brian Poe: pa silang connection sa kanilang

asr-001732
02:34:06.260 --> 02:34:08.800
Rep. Brian Poe: eskwelahan, lalo na pag university, state,

asr-001733
02:34:09.180 --> 02:34:10.260
Rep. Brian Poe: universities or colleges,

asr-001734
02:34:10.760 --> 02:34:12.820
Rep. Brian Poe: yun yung dahilan. Kasi kailangan pa natin

asr-001735
02:34:12.820 --> 02:34:14.480
Rep. Brian Poe: ng budget para ma-expand ng

asr-001736
02:34:14.480 --> 02:34:16.700
Rep. Brian Poe: programa. Madam Speaker,

asr-001737
02:34:16.820 --> 02:34:18.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, dahil landmark essentially

asr-001738
02:34:18.860 --> 02:34:20.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung pag-establish

asr-001739
02:34:20.960 --> 02:34:22.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng connectivity

asr-001740
02:34:22.800 --> 02:34:24.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in these schools,

asr-001741
02:34:25.100 --> 02:34:26.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but dahil hindi

asr-001742
02:34:26.260 --> 02:34:28.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: granted as of now

asr-001743
02:34:28.020 --> 02:34:30.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: itong 3 billion for the

asr-001744
02:34:30.160 --> 02:34:31.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: maintenance and operation of existing

asr-001745
02:34:31.960 --> 02:34:34.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: school sites, kung hindi po mag-grant

asr-001746
02:34:34.280 --> 02:34:35.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: itong 3 billion na ito, ano pong

asr-001747
02:34:35.940 --> 02:34:37.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mangyayari sa connectivity ng

asr-001748
02:34:37.840 --> 02:34:40.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: schools na na-establish

asr-001749
02:34:40.380 --> 02:34:42.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na noong 2026?

asr-001750
02:34:47.240 --> 02:34:48.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tama po ba yung

asr-001751
02:34:48.440 --> 02:34:50.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: intindi natin, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-001752
02:34:50.580 --> 02:34:52.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na hindi po ito matutuloy

asr-001753
02:34:52.480 --> 02:34:54.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or ano pong

asr-001754
02:34:54.780 --> 02:34:55.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mangyayari?

asr-001757
02:35:01.900 --> 02:35:14.200
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay, so to clarify,

asr-001758
02:35:14.780 --> 02:35:16.760
Rep. Brian Poe: the 3 billion, while ideal

asr-001759
02:35:16.760 --> 02:35:18.500
Rep. Brian Poe: that we're able to grant it through

asr-001760
02:35:18.500 --> 02:35:20.440
Rep. Brian Poe: legislation for the GAA,

asr-001761
02:35:20.840 --> 02:35:22.620
Rep. Brian Poe: should there not be an allocation

asr-001762
02:35:22.620 --> 02:35:24.620
Rep. Brian Poe: from the GAA, it now

asr-001763
02:35:24.620 --> 02:35:25.840
Rep. Brian Poe: falls upon the DBM,

asr-001764
02:35:26.260 --> 02:35:28.340
Rep. Brian Poe: to release additional funding from

asr-001765
02:35:28.340 --> 02:35:29.480
Rep. Brian Poe: the SUF,

asr-001766
02:35:29.900 --> 02:35:32.380
Rep. Brian Poe: and earmark that for the

asr-001767
02:35:32.380 --> 02:35:34.420
Rep. Brian Poe: continuation of the free Wi-Fi program.

asr-001768
02:35:34.720 --> 02:35:36.440
Rep. Brian Poe: However, if we are able to

asr-001769
02:35:36.440 --> 02:35:37.920
Rep. Brian Poe: provide the 3 billion, then

asr-001770
02:35:37.920 --> 02:35:40.440
Rep. Brian Poe: technically, we don't have to dig

asr-001771
02:35:40.440 --> 02:35:41.700
Rep. Brian Poe: into the SUF anymore.

asr-001772
02:35:42.280 --> 02:35:44.480
Rep. Brian Poe: Remember, that's our contingency fund for

asr-001773
02:35:44.480 --> 02:35:46.440
Rep. Brian Poe: free Wi-Fi, and our goal

asr-001774
02:35:46.440 --> 02:35:48.240
Rep. Brian Poe: here is not just to maintain

asr-001775
02:35:48.240 --> 02:35:50.360
Rep. Brian Poe: the existing sites, but to expand

asr-001776
02:35:50.360 --> 02:35:52.540
Rep. Brian Poe: free connectivity para sa mga

asr-001777
02:35:52.540 --> 02:35:53.420
Rep. Brian Poe: kababayan natin.

asr-001778
02:35:54.380 --> 02:35:56.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For this representation,

asr-001779
02:35:56.260 --> 02:35:57.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the public's

asr-001780
02:35:57.740 --> 02:36:00.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: purpose, ano po ang SUF?

asr-001781
02:36:02.140 --> 02:36:03.580
Rep. Brian Poe: Oh, I apologize.

asr-001782
02:36:04.060 --> 02:36:06.240
Rep. Brian Poe: The SUF is the spectrum user fee.

asr-001783
02:36:06.760 --> 02:36:08.400
Rep. Brian Poe: This is the minimal fee

asr-001784
02:36:08.400 --> 02:36:10.340
Rep. Brian Poe: that is automatically collected from

asr-001785
02:36:10.340 --> 02:36:12.240
Rep. Brian Poe: telcos, and

asr-001786
02:36:12.240 --> 02:36:14.240
Rep. Brian Poe: contributes to our free Wi-Fi.

asr-001787
02:36:14.660 --> 02:36:15.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And how much po ba

asr-001788
02:36:15.860 --> 02:36:18.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang nasa

asr-001789
02:36:18.680 --> 02:36:20.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SUF ngayon na pwedeng

asr-001790
02:36:20.420 --> 02:36:22.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makuha itong

asr-001791
02:36:22.500 --> 02:36:24.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 3 billion, at hindi magkukulang

asr-001792
02:36:24.980 --> 02:36:26.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para po sa

asr-001793
02:36:26.220 --> 02:36:27.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: purposes of continuous

asr-001794
02:36:27.700 --> 02:36:29.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: connectivity ng schools?

asr-001795
02:36:30.400 --> 02:36:31.980
Rep. Brian Poe: As of June

asr-001796
02:36:31.980 --> 02:36:34.400
Rep. Brian Poe: 2026,

asr-001797
02:36:35.180 --> 02:36:35.740
Rep. Brian Poe: we have

asr-001798
02:36:35.740 --> 02:36:36.940
Rep. Brian Poe: 22 billion,

asr-001799
02:36:37.520 --> 02:36:39.340
Rep. Brian Poe: 303 million,

asr-001800
02:36:39.700 --> 02:36:42.880
Rep. Brian Poe: 304,367 pesos,

asr-001801
02:36:43.260 --> 02:36:44.840
Rep. Brian Poe: and 28 centavos.

asr-001802
02:36:46.100 --> 02:36:47.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At kung hindi po nakuha yung

asr-001803
02:36:47.420 --> 02:36:49.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tier 2 budget request for the expansion

asr-001804
02:36:49.360 --> 02:36:51.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of free Wi-Fi to other priority public

asr-001805
02:36:51.460 --> 02:36:52.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: service locations,

asr-001806
02:36:53.420 --> 02:36:55.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ano pong implication ito for

asr-001807
02:36:55.540 --> 02:36:57.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 2027?

asr-001808
02:36:57.540 --> 02:36:59.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: There will be

asr-001809
02:36:59.040 --> 02:37:01.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lesser expansion than expected?

asr-001810
02:37:02.460 --> 02:37:04.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pwede rin po bang kumuha

asr-001811
02:37:04.060 --> 02:37:05.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa SUF para po

asr-001812
02:37:05.720 --> 02:37:08.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makamit yung mga targets for expansion

asr-001813
02:37:08.340 --> 02:37:09.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na

asr-001814
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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 10 plus 10 billion,

asr-001815
02:37:11.980 --> 02:37:14.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 55, ay 500 million plus

asr-001816
02:37:14.760 --> 02:37:15.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang kailangan?

asr-001817
02:37:16.060 --> 02:37:17.620
Rep. Brian Poe: What I'm being told

asr-001818
02:37:17.620 --> 02:37:19.940
Rep. Brian Poe: by the DICT is that

asr-001819
02:37:19.940 --> 02:37:21.840
Rep. Brian Poe: it can actually be used

asr-001820
02:37:21.840 --> 02:37:22.800
Rep. Brian Poe: for the expansion.

asr-001821
02:37:23.620 --> 02:37:25.420
Rep. Brian Poe: But two things to consider.

asr-001822
02:37:25.540 --> 02:37:26.760
Rep. Brian Poe: One is that

asr-001823
02:37:26.760 --> 02:37:29.460
Rep. Brian Poe: siyempre ang DBM may final say

asr-001824
02:37:29.460 --> 02:37:31.400
Rep. Brian Poe: kung lalabas itong pondo

asr-001825
02:37:31.400 --> 02:37:32.580
Rep. Brian Poe: for the expansion.

asr-001826
02:37:33.160 --> 02:37:35.060
Rep. Brian Poe: And second consideration is, remember,

asr-001827
02:37:35.540 --> 02:37:37.280
Rep. Brian Poe: sabihin natin na nag-expand tayo

asr-001828
02:37:37.280 --> 02:37:39.260
Rep. Brian Poe: and our yearly cost goes up to

asr-001829
02:37:39.260 --> 02:37:41.120
Rep. Brian Poe: 10 billion, right?

asr-001830
02:37:41.600 --> 02:37:43.520
Rep. Brian Poe: That means that the SUF that we

asr-001831
02:37:43.520 --> 02:37:45.520
Rep. Brian Poe: currently have is only good to maintain

asr-001832
02:37:45.520 --> 02:37:47.500
Rep. Brian Poe: for two years. So we have to

asr-001833
02:37:47.500 --> 02:37:49.400
Rep. Brian Poe: be careful on how much we use

asr-001834
02:37:49.400 --> 02:37:50.980
Rep. Brian Poe: from the SUF to expand

asr-001835
02:37:50.980 --> 02:37:53.080
Rep. Brian Poe: and how much we use to maintain.

asr-001836
02:37:53.080 --> 02:37:55.340
Rep. Brian Poe: Ang importante, yung mga

asr-001837
02:37:55.340 --> 02:37:56.980
Rep. Brian Poe: sites na meron na tayo, siyempre,

asr-001838
02:37:57.240 --> 02:37:58.880
Rep. Brian Poe: hindi dapat tanggalin yun or

asr-001839
02:37:58.880 --> 02:38:01.360
Rep. Brian Poe: madisconnect ang services. So little

asr-001840
02:38:01.360 --> 02:38:03.380
Rep. Brian Poe: by little, but we want to

asr-001841
02:38:03.380 --> 02:38:05.480
Rep. Brian Poe: make sure that the main SUF fund

asr-001842
02:38:05.480 --> 02:38:07.400
Rep. Brian Poe: doesn't completely run out. That's why

asr-001843
02:38:07.400 --> 02:38:09.260
Rep. Brian Poe: we also need additional funds from

asr-001844
02:38:09.260 --> 02:38:11.380
Rep. Brian Poe: Congress for the expansion. But the maintenance,

asr-001845
02:38:11.840 --> 02:38:13.040
Rep. Brian Poe: that's definitely a commitment

asr-001846
02:38:13.040 --> 02:38:14.200
Rep. Brian Poe: under the SUF.

asr-001847
02:38:15.180 --> 02:38:17.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So what I'm hearing, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-001848
02:38:17.520 --> 02:38:19.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay hindi na rin sapat yung

asr-001849
02:38:19.220 --> 02:38:20.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yearly appropriations

asr-001850
02:38:20.920 --> 02:38:23.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na kinery over lang

asr-001851
02:38:23.780 --> 02:38:25.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from 20%

asr-001852
02:38:25.340 --> 02:38:26.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from 2025

asr-001853
02:38:26.900 --> 02:38:29.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: onwards and onwards, para

asr-001854
02:38:29.120 --> 02:38:30.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: i-maintain na

asr-001855
02:38:30.900 --> 02:38:32.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung mga existing

asr-001856
02:38:32.520 --> 02:38:34.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: connections that are

asr-001857
02:38:34.840 --> 02:38:36.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not only established before, pero yung

asr-001858
02:38:36.980 --> 02:38:38.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dinadagdag natin. So just

asr-001859
02:38:38.840 --> 02:38:41.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the record, magkano na po ba

asr-001860
02:38:41.200 --> 02:38:43.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung kailangan to maintain

asr-001861
02:38:43.000 --> 02:38:45.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung connectivity

asr-001862
02:38:45.260 --> 02:38:47.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that's currently

asr-001863
02:38:47.200 --> 02:38:47.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: existing?

asr-001864
02:38:49.160 --> 02:38:51.000
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, it's true.

asr-001865
02:38:51.160 --> 02:38:53.380
Rep. Brian Poe: Sobrang kulang po yung investment natin

asr-001866
02:38:53.380 --> 02:38:55.320
Rep. Brian Poe: sa free Wi-Fi para sa mga constituents.

asr-001867
02:38:55.340 --> 02:39:16.600
Rep. Brian Poe: In fact, the investment cost is actually 22.5 pesos per connected beneficiary. Madam Speaker, 22.5 pesos per month. That's a minimal investment for the potential that connectivity unlocks, lalo na para sa mga kabataan.

asr-001868
02:39:16.600 --> 02:39:30.900
Rep. Brian Poe: So, for me, I honestly believe that you're correct. There is a lack of funding. This should be prioritized, but again, we also have to consider absorptive capacity of the agency, the maintenance and operations before we can go into expansion.

asr-001869
02:39:31.400 --> 02:39:45.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, at the appropriate time, this representation will move for the amendment of the GAB to support the necessary funding para po magtuloy-tuloy yung connectivity,

asr-001870
02:39:45.320 --> 02:40:08.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lalo na nakalagay po ito sa mga paaralan. Ang beneficiary po, kabataan, yung beneficiary, the education sector, that, you know, kailangan ang connectivity nito among others para continuous yung quality education na ibibigay sa kabataan at syempre na ibabahagi din ng faculty, administrators, etc.

asr-001871
02:40:08.620 --> 02:40:15.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, I'd like to move on to my next line of questioning. This is in relation, actually, to...

asr-001872
02:40:15.320 --> 02:40:45.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Project Uplift. We asked this with TESDA, which informed us na ito po ay in partnership with the DICT. This is the implementation of AI-related programs, especially upskilling, that is being rolled out to BPO companies through courses na ibinabahagi sa kanilang

asr-001873
02:40:45.320 --> 02:41:15.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga employees. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, binigyan po tayo, at least ng DOLE, may some coordination ito with the DICT, ng mga listahan ng mga enterprises and yung kanilang mga training programs that they're availing of. May I ask, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, itong mga courses na po ba ito, may duration po ba ito?

asr-001874
02:41:15.300 --> 02:41:27.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang concern na finlag natin po sa TESDA ay may reports that it could be just like one PowerPoint, papasadahan ni employee, at the end of it, upskilled na siya.

asr-001875
02:41:28.160 --> 02:41:40.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, I'd like more qualitative details. What does this course look like, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor. Is this a month-long course? May test ba ito at the end?

asr-001876
02:41:41.420 --> 02:41:44.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano po natin na may measure na upskilled yung employee sa dulo po nito?

asr-001877
02:41:45.300 --> 02:42:09.240
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, that's a very valid question from my colleague. Siyempre, hindi pwede natin sabihin na upskilled po ang mga government workers natin, ang mga workers in general natin, kung PowerPoint lang po ang pinapakita sa kanila, lalo na kung tech-related po ito.

asr-001878
02:42:09.240 --> 02:42:14.960
Rep. Brian Poe: So, if you'll allow me a few seconds just to confer kung ano talaga yung programa.

asr-001879
02:42:15.300 --> 02:42:17.420
Rep. Brian Poe: I'll get back to you in a moment.

asr-001880
02:42:18.680 --> 02:42:20.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

asr-001881
02:42:38.500 --> 02:42:45.280
Rep. Brian Poe: So, Madam Speaker, to clarify, all these courses have been uploaded in the Digital Workforce Hub.

asr-001882
02:42:45.300 --> 02:42:47.640
Rep. Brian Poe: Which was just released September 9.

asr-001883
02:42:48.420 --> 02:42:50.500
Rep. Brian Poe: So, the courses are available there.

asr-001884
02:42:51.060 --> 02:42:53.740
Rep. Brian Poe: And it's not just a course that you can enroll on.

asr-001885
02:42:54.240 --> 02:42:59.040
Rep. Brian Poe: I believe there are also follow-up activities for capacity building.

asr-001886
02:42:59.260 --> 02:43:08.720
Rep. Brian Poe: So, really, DICT is committed in not just creating another certificate mill, but really building the capacity of our employees.

asr-001887
02:43:08.880 --> 02:43:11.240
Rep. Brian Poe: However, this is brand new.

asr-001888
02:43:11.680 --> 02:43:13.060
Rep. Brian Poe: We just started September 9.

asr-001889
02:43:13.540 --> 02:43:15.080
Rep. Brian Poe: So, we have yet to see whether or not

asr-001890
02:43:15.300 --> 02:43:16.940
Rep. Brian Poe: this will be a successful program.

asr-001891
02:43:17.820 --> 02:43:21.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may this representation be furnished.

asr-001892
02:43:21.060 --> 02:43:31.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A copy of the document that maybe the DICT is using as a framework to implement the upskilling.

asr-001893
02:43:31.640 --> 02:43:43.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I understand that at least in the public releases of IBPAP, it is rolling it out in partnership with these agencies.

asr-001894
02:43:43.180 --> 02:43:45.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It is hoping that...

asr-001895
02:43:45.300 --> 02:43:50.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That the upskilling happens to its employees.

asr-001896
02:43:51.220 --> 02:43:55.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We're still questioning, ano yung translation of upskilling na ba ito?

asr-001897
02:43:55.260 --> 02:43:56.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito ba ay promotion?

asr-001898
02:43:56.860 --> 02:43:59.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito ba ay additional salary?

asr-001899
02:43:59.680 --> 02:44:02.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ganyan, more appropriate questions for Dole, perhaps.

asr-001900
02:44:02.660 --> 02:44:10.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero at least sa DICT, gusto po natin makita yung mga detalye ng paano po niroroll out niya yung mga kurso na ito.

asr-001901
02:44:10.700 --> 02:44:12.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Would that be...

asr-001902
02:44:12.300 --> 02:44:13.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can that happen, Madam Speaker?

asr-001903
02:44:13.980 --> 02:44:14.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor.

asr-001904
02:44:15.300 --> 02:44:20.580
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, to be fair, the mandate of DICT would be on the capacity building side,

asr-001905
02:44:20.580 --> 02:44:22.940
Rep. Brian Poe: but not necessarily the immediate employment.

asr-001906
02:44:23.120 --> 02:44:30.060
Rep. Brian Poe: However, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be a priority for DICT to make sure that they're highly employable after their programs.

asr-001907
02:44:30.400 --> 02:44:35.300
Rep. Brian Poe: With that being said, I have the commitment of the Secretary that we can provide to you, to this representation,

asr-001908
02:44:35.980 --> 02:44:45.060
Rep. Brian Poe: the framework that was used to create this program, and also, if my colleague has any constituents,

asr-001909
02:44:45.060 --> 02:44:49.580
Rep. Brian Poe: that would like to participate in any of the capacity building activities,

asr-001910
02:44:50.780 --> 02:44:56.760
Rep. Brian Poe: the DICT has given their commitment to immediately enroll and add them into the program

asr-001911
02:44:56.760 --> 02:44:59.980
Rep. Brian Poe: so that you can get first-hand experience on these programs.

asr-001912
02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:07.420
Rep. Brian Poe: and also give your critique on whether or not this is really effective in providing ang mga kabataan natin ng mas maraming oportunidad.

asr-001913
02:45:08.420 --> 02:45:09.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

asr-001914
02:45:10.300 --> 02:45:16.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I am of the understanding that there are slots that are allotted to various enterprises.

asr-001915
02:45:17.700 --> 02:45:23.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, we might have to consult also with these regions, etc.

asr-001916
02:45:23.340 --> 02:45:30.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But nonetheless, we appreciate the details of the qualitative framework by which this upskilling happens.

asr-001917
02:45:31.100 --> 02:45:41.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na po yung pangamba ng karamihan ng ating mga employees in different sectors, lalo na sa BPO, kung saan mas inaasahan yung upskilling na itong mangyari,

asr-001918
02:45:41.560 --> 02:45:50.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: rather than AI integration helping these employees to further their careers,

asr-001919
02:45:50.400 --> 02:45:53.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay nagiging rason pa nga po na sila ay maaari.

asr-001920
02:45:53.340 --> 02:45:55.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ma-retrench, ma-let go.

asr-001921
02:45:56.140 --> 02:46:04.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sila po ay nawawalan ng trabaho because of the further integration of AI in these companies' workflows.

asr-001922
02:46:05.060 --> 02:46:09.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But nonetheless, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, we will be waiting for the submission of the Good Department.

asr-001923
02:46:10.280 --> 02:46:15.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My last question would be in relation to the EGOV PH app.

asr-001924
02:46:15.160 --> 02:46:23.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I remember in the presentation of the DICT that there are 54 million users registered as of date.

asr-001925
02:46:23.340 --> 02:46:32.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: During the presentation, may we ask, yung breakdown nito, ilan po ba dito sa 54 million users ang unique Filipino users?

asr-001926
02:46:33.260 --> 02:46:35.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I assume dahil po may ilan po dito.

asr-001927
02:46:35.940 --> 02:46:40.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mga foreigners, nirequire na i-download yung EGOV app para po sa kanilang mga travel details.

asr-001928
02:46:42.860 --> 02:46:47.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May ilan dito foreigners? So ilan po sa 54 million users nito ang Pilipino?

asr-001929
02:46:53.340 --> 02:47:02.900
Rep. Brian Poe: So from the DICT is claiming that only 3 to 4 percent of these active users are foreigners.

asr-001930
02:47:03.680 --> 02:47:06.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. So most of them are Filipino users po?

asr-001931
02:47:07.080 --> 02:47:10.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. And we are sure naman po na unique users sila.

asr-001932
02:47:10.920 --> 02:47:16.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I assume dahil may IDs din pong pinapasubmit para magka-EGOV account.

asr-001933
02:47:16.940 --> 02:47:20.760
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, Madam Speaker, we can guarantee that these are unique accounts.

asr-001934
02:47:21.260 --> 02:47:21.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

asr-001935
02:47:22.300 --> 02:47:23.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Speaker...

asr-001936
02:47:23.340 --> 02:47:31.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may data ba kung anong mga services yung mga ginagamit ng mga Filipino users natin?

asr-001937
02:47:31.920 --> 02:47:36.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Alin po yung mas frequently ginagamit versus sa hindi pa nagagamit?

asr-001938
02:47:44.720 --> 02:47:50.260
Rep. Brian Poe: If we could just have a quick second to confer kung ano yung mga top services na ginagamit.

asr-001939
02:47:50.720 --> 02:47:53.000
Rep. Brian Poe: But one thing I want to point out is unlike...

asr-001940
02:47:53.340 --> 02:47:55.700
Rep. Brian Poe: Social media, these are unique accounts.

asr-001941
02:47:56.480 --> 02:47:56.920
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

asr-001942
02:47:56.920 --> 02:47:59.880
Rep. Brian Poe: So that we can verify due to their government IDs.

asr-001943
02:48:01.640 --> 02:48:04.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I ask these questions, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-001944
02:48:04.600 --> 02:48:09.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I will allow the distinguished sponsor the few moments to confer with DICT.

asr-001945
02:48:09.180 --> 02:48:21.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Para po maitimbang din natin yung dami ng pera na binibigay natin sa EGOV app development and maintenance.

asr-001946
02:48:22.260 --> 02:48:23.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa paano ba...

asr-001947
02:48:23.340 --> 02:48:27.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pag ginagamit, gaano ba kadalas na nagagamit ng mga mamamayan natin yung app?

asr-001948
02:48:28.380 --> 02:48:30.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano ba siya na ma-maximize, if any, or hindi?

asr-001949
02:48:31.820 --> 02:48:35.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yun po yung gusto nating ma-test with this data point, perhaps.

asr-001950
02:48:35.920 --> 02:48:41.360
Rep. Brian Poe: So I have the breakdown, Madam Speaker.

asr-001951
02:48:42.080 --> 02:48:50.800
Rep. Brian Poe: First is national ID, followed by PhilHealth, followed by Pag-ibig, followed by e-travel,

asr-001952
02:48:51.540 --> 02:48:53.300
Rep. Brian Poe: which is then followed by clearance.

asr-001953
02:48:53.340 --> 02:48:58.420
Rep. Brian Poe: Permits, social services, and last would be the health desk.

asr-001954
02:48:59.420 --> 02:49:05.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may this representation receive a report on the breakdown of services use?

asr-001955
02:49:06.480 --> 02:49:14.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And maybe kung this data is available, how much of the percentage of Filipino users that are registered,

asr-001956
02:49:15.100 --> 02:49:16.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang gumagamit ng mga servisyong ito?

asr-001957
02:49:17.420 --> 02:49:19.320
Rep. Brian Poe: We will request for that.

asr-001958
02:49:19.760 --> 02:49:23.180
Rep. Brian Poe: The agency is committing that they will submit the percentages.

asr-001959
02:49:23.340 --> 02:49:26.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And last question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-001960
02:49:28.140 --> 02:49:34.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Saan po nakastore ang data na kinakalap ng e-gov app?

asr-001961
02:49:36.860 --> 02:49:39.000
Rep. Brian Poe: Singapore and the United States.

asr-001962
02:49:39.600 --> 02:49:43.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So it's at data centers of Singapore and United States.

asr-001963
02:49:44.100 --> 02:49:48.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So we're availing of cloud services para po makuha sila?

asr-001964
02:49:49.460 --> 02:49:53.320
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, Madam Speaker, I can confirm that we are using cloud services.

asr-001965
02:49:53.340 --> 02:49:54.720
Rep. Brian Poe: In order to host this data.

asr-001966
02:49:55.580 --> 02:50:01.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How much data po ang nakalap na para po sa e-gov PH?

asr-001967
02:50:01.140 --> 02:50:03.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Like terabytes na po ba ito, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

asr-001968
02:50:12.540 --> 02:50:15.980
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, six terabytes of data.

asr-001969
02:50:17.800 --> 02:50:22.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we're initially concerned that that's a lot of data.

asr-001970
02:50:22.480 --> 02:50:22.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

asr-001971
02:50:23.340 --> 02:50:28.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That's all personal data of Filipinos that's not hosted in the Philippines.

asr-001972
02:50:29.540 --> 02:50:39.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So mayhaps the department may consider some way to locally host this data.

asr-001973
02:50:39.720 --> 02:50:43.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na maaari kung magkaroon ng data breach.

asr-001974
02:50:43.920 --> 02:50:46.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May mga assurances na binigay ang DICT publicly.

asr-001975
02:50:47.040 --> 02:50:50.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But nonetheless, hindi siya foolproof guarantee that it won't happen.

asr-001976
02:50:50.980 --> 02:50:52.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na po.

asr-001977
02:50:53.340 --> 02:50:56.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At hindi po siya stored locally.

asr-001978
02:50:57.000 --> 02:50:58.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So siguro na lang po.

asr-001979
02:50:59.220 --> 02:51:01.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A final response on that point, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-001980
02:51:01.720 --> 02:51:02.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I have no further questions.

asr-001981
02:51:09.720 --> 02:51:11.240
Rep. Brian Poe: So I stand corrected.

asr-001982
02:51:11.420 --> 02:51:14.520
Rep. Brian Poe: It's 60 terabytes, not just 6 terabytes, Madam Speaker.

asr-001983
02:51:14.740 --> 02:51:16.440
Rep. Brian Poe: And my colleague is correct.

asr-001984
02:51:16.780 --> 02:51:22.300
Rep. Brian Poe: We actually, based on the eGov law, are supposed to move towards localization of data

asr-001986
02:51:23.320 --> 02:51:25.420
Rep. Brian Poe: By 2028, I believe, is the commitment.

asr-001987
02:51:26.080 --> 02:51:30.340
Rep. Brian Poe: And we need another 8 billion pesos to be able to get there.

asr-001988
02:51:30.820 --> 02:51:33.640
Rep. Brian Poe: And that's the conservative estimate from the DICT.

asr-001989
02:51:34.480 --> 02:51:38.840
Rep. Brian Poe: We've already allocated it, if I'm not mistaken, 9 billion so far.

asr-001990
02:51:39.240 --> 02:51:46.580
Rep. Brian Poe: We've allocated 9 billion over the course of 8 years

asr-001991
02:51:46.580 --> 02:51:51.580
Rep. Brian Poe: in order to address the data storage issue.

asr-001992
02:51:51.580 --> 02:51:52.720
Rep. Brian Poe: But again,

asr-001993
02:51:53.320 --> 02:51:58.680
Rep. Brian Poe: moving towards 2028, we need another 8 billion to reach our target.

asr-001994
02:51:59.140 --> 02:52:04.860
Rep. Brian Poe: So I actually have the breakdown of the appropriation for data center

asr-001995
02:52:04.860 --> 02:52:09.120
Rep. Brian Poe: from 2016 until our 2027 NEP.

asr-001996
02:52:09.600 --> 02:52:19.680
Rep. Brian Poe: The total amount between MOE and capital outlay is 9,572,567 pesos.

asr-001997
02:52:20.460 --> 02:52:23.120
Rep. Brian Poe: And then, of course, we need another 8 billion to reach our target.

asr-002000
02:52:24.080 --> 02:52:32.220
Rep. Brian Poe: But in the NEP, we're only being given 949 million for fiscal year 2027.

asr-002001
02:52:32.400 --> 02:52:33.900
Rep. Brian Poe: I have it here.

asr-002002
02:52:34.580 --> 02:52:40.900
Rep. Brian Poe: I can submit this to the representation to my colleague for her perusal.

asr-002003
02:52:41.440 --> 02:52:44.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That would be appreciated, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002004
02:52:44.880 --> 02:52:47.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I thank the indulgence of my good colleague in answering my questions.

asr-002005
02:52:48.100 --> 02:52:48.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you very much.

asr-002006
02:52:49.200 --> 02:52:49.560
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you.

asr-002007
02:52:50.820 --> 02:52:51.640
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-002008
02:52:53.280 --> 02:52:58.440
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Next to interpellate on the proposed budget, Madam Speaker,

asr-002009
02:52:59.480 --> 02:53:03.400
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: is the Act Teachers Party List representative.

asr-002010
02:53:03.400 --> 02:53:09.400
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: And I therefore move that we recognize Representative Antonio Tinio.

asr-002011
02:53:10.940 --> 02:53:16.400
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Antonio Tinio of ACT Teachers Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

asr-002012
02:53:35.230 --> 02:53:53.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, ah, yung mga questions natin regarding the DICT budget have to do with the

asr-002014
02:53:53.280 --> 02:53:54.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the project.

asr-002015
02:53:57.320 --> 02:54:08.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, practically all the projects of the ICT, and these include the National ICT Household Survey,

asr-002016
02:54:10.840 --> 02:54:16.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the National Government Data Center Infrastructure, National Broadband Program,

asr-002017
02:54:16.360 --> 02:54:22.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the National Government Portal, the Government Transparency and Accountability Program,

asr-002018
02:54:23.280 --> 02:54:32.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they're all funded at the central office level.

asr-002019
02:54:33.860 --> 02:54:35.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, lahat sila.

asr-002020
02:54:36.420 --> 02:54:44.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unlike many other agencies na merong nasa central office, centrally managed, tas merong nasa regions.

asr-002021
02:54:44.980 --> 02:54:48.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, lahat po konsentrado sa national.

asr-002022
02:54:49.340 --> 02:54:52.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, parang yun na yung ano eh, yun na yung mga major programs.

asr-002023
02:54:52.560 --> 02:54:53.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Those are all.

asr-002024
02:54:53.280 --> 02:54:57.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Those are all the programs, in fact, if I'm not mistaken, of the DICT.

asr-002025
02:54:58.440 --> 02:55:03.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, una, is there an explanation for that?

asr-002026
02:55:06.900 --> 02:55:09.220
Rep. Brian Poe: In other words, highly centralized.

asr-002027
02:55:09.660 --> 02:55:20.020
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, for the longest time, for the past decade, the budget of the DICT has been centralized in the Secretary's office.

asr-002028
02:55:20.020 --> 02:55:23.020
Rep. Brian Poe: But that doesn't necessarily mean...

asr-002029
02:55:23.280 --> 02:55:26.540
Rep. Brian Poe: That the DICT agrees that this is how it should remain.

asr-002030
02:55:26.540 --> 02:55:36.580
Rep. Brian Poe: In fact, there are steps being taken between the DICT and DBM to push towards decentralization of the fund that's being given to DICT

asr-002031
02:55:36.580 --> 02:55:42.900
Rep. Brian Poe: so that we don't have 90% of the budget being allocated to the Secretary's office year after year.

asr-002032
02:55:43.020 --> 02:55:50.180
Rep. Brian Poe: As our ICT concerns evolve, and to make sure that the distribution of ICT services is more equitable,

asr-002033
02:55:50.180 --> 02:55:53.180
Rep. Brian Poe: the argument for decentralization becomes more and more...

asr-002034
02:55:53.280 --> 02:55:53.740
Rep. Brian Poe: the argument for decentralization becomes more and more clear.

asr-002035
02:55:55.760 --> 02:55:58.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright. So, but ano ba yung reason?

asr-002036
02:55:58.800 --> 02:56:04.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is it historical? Is it because relatively bagong department ng DICT?

asr-002037
02:56:04.660 --> 02:56:05.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano pong dahilan?

asr-002038
02:56:07.400 --> 02:56:12.720
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yes, it's historical, but it's also because of the capacity of the regional offices.

asr-002039
02:56:13.320 --> 02:56:16.280
Rep. Brian Poe: Sa totoo lang po, medyo bata pa ang ahensya.

asr-002040
02:56:16.520 --> 02:56:22.860
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yung mga regional offices po natin need to get up to speed in terms of technical capability and manpower

asr-002044
02:56:23.200 --> 02:56:25.160
Rep. Brian Poe: able to address decentralization

asr-002045
02:56:25.160 --> 02:56:26.460
Rep. Brian Poe: from the Secretary's office.

asr-002046
02:56:27.600 --> 02:56:28.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002047
02:56:29.820 --> 02:56:31.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So now let's

asr-002048
02:56:31.100 --> 02:56:33.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: let me focus on actually during

asr-002049
02:56:33.140 --> 02:56:34.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the budget briefings

asr-002050
02:56:34.500 --> 02:56:36.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget briefing of the

asr-002051
02:56:36.840 --> 02:56:38.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: DICT, I

asr-002052
02:56:38.760 --> 02:56:41.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: honed in on the

asr-002053
02:56:41.060 --> 02:56:42.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Government Data

asr-002054
02:56:42.900 --> 02:56:44.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Center Infrastructure

asr-002055
02:56:44.500 --> 02:56:46.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Program. So

asr-002056
02:56:46.900 --> 02:56:48.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the proposed

asr-002057
02:56:48.660 --> 02:56:50.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: appropriation for 2027

asr-002058
02:56:50.860 --> 02:56:52.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is 949

asr-002059
02:56:52.160 --> 02:56:54.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: .49 million pesos

asr-002060
02:56:54.880 --> 02:56:56.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of which

asr-002061
02:56:56.500 --> 02:56:57.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 806 million

asr-002062
02:56:57.800 --> 02:57:00.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is MOE and

asr-002063
02:57:00.360 --> 02:57:02.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 143.4 million

asr-002064
02:57:02.280 --> 02:57:04.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is

asr-002065
02:57:04.320 --> 02:57:06.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: capital outlay.

asr-002066
02:57:07.180 --> 02:57:08.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. And

asr-002067
02:57:08.400 --> 02:57:10.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lump sum. Actually yung

asr-002068
02:57:10.300 --> 02:57:12.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangisang observation natin dito

asr-002069
02:57:12.020 --> 02:57:13.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na

asr-002070
02:57:13.100 --> 02:57:16.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: concentrated sa central office

asr-002071
02:57:16.520 --> 02:57:17.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga

asr-002072
02:57:17.740 --> 02:57:20.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: programs

asr-002073
02:57:20.140 --> 02:57:22.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DICT, yung appropriation

asr-002074
02:57:22.160 --> 02:57:23.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the programs and

asr-002075
02:57:23.900 --> 02:57:25.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the other point being

asr-002076
02:57:25.480 --> 02:57:27.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lump sum sila lahat.

asr-002077
02:57:28.760 --> 02:57:28.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002078
02:57:29.980 --> 02:57:32.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So dahil hindi natin

asr-002079
02:57:32.460 --> 02:57:34.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iisa-isahin yung mga programa, dito na lang

asr-002080
02:57:34.480 --> 02:57:36.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po tayo mag-focus tayo sa National

asr-002081
02:57:36.200 --> 02:57:38.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Government Data Center Infrastructure.

asr-002082
02:57:38.820 --> 02:57:40.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala po kasing provided breakdown.

asr-002083
02:57:40.760 --> 02:57:42.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I actually asked for

asr-002084
02:57:42.040 --> 02:57:44.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a breakdown of this.

asr-002085
02:57:45.360 --> 02:57:45.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I was given

asr-002086
02:57:45.980 --> 02:57:47.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: some data.

asr-002087
02:57:48.580 --> 02:57:49.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But it's a

asr-002088
02:57:49.640 --> 02:57:50.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito po.

asr-002089
02:57:52.160 --> 02:57:52.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I was given

asr-002090
02:57:52.800 --> 02:57:54.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: some data. It's a list of

asr-002091
02:57:54.860 --> 02:57:56.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national government data

asr-002092
02:57:56.760 --> 02:57:58.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: center projects

asr-002093
02:57:58.280 --> 02:58:00.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from fiscal year 2016

asr-002094
02:58:00.980 --> 02:58:02.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to

asr-002095
02:58:02.140 --> 02:58:05.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: really

asr-002096
02:58:05.000 --> 02:58:05.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's 2025

asr-002097
02:58:05.960 --> 02:58:08.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with one or two projects from

asr-002098
02:58:08.560 --> 02:58:09.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026.

asr-002099
02:58:11.220 --> 02:58:12.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Exactly two projects

asr-002100
02:58:12.720 --> 02:58:13.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from 2026.

asr-002101
02:58:14.680 --> 02:58:16.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So I

asr-002102
02:58:16.040 --> 02:58:17.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: will get to this.

asr-002103
02:58:18.980 --> 02:58:21.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But that does not answer

asr-002104
02:58:21.020 --> 02:58:21.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: my

asr-002105
02:58:22.160 --> 02:58:24.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: question regarding

asr-002106
02:58:24.600 --> 02:58:26.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang breakdown

asr-002107
02:58:26.820 --> 02:58:29.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nitong NGDC

asr-002108
02:58:29.300 --> 02:58:30.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: infrastructure

asr-002109
02:58:30.640 --> 02:58:31.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget line.

asr-002110
02:58:33.680 --> 02:58:34.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para saan po ito?

asr-002111
02:58:43.660 --> 02:58:44.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay.

asr-002112
02:58:45.100 --> 02:58:46.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yeah, I have it here.

asr-002113
02:58:47.880 --> 02:58:48.350
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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02:58:48.350 --> 02:58:48.960
Rep. Brian Poe: So for

asr-002114
02:58:48.960 --> 02:58:49.500
Rep. Brian Poe: the breakdown,

asr-002115
02:58:50.120 --> 02:58:52.140
Rep. Brian Poe: if I may, but I'm going to ask you.

asr-002116
02:58:52.160 --> 02:58:54.860
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, e-government data center,

asr-002117
02:58:54.860 --> 02:59:03.420
Rep. Brian Poe: Subic operations is 700, sorry, 78.126 million pesos. E-government

asr-002118
02:59:03.420 --> 02:59:05.320
Rep. Brian Poe: colocation services.

asr-002119
02:59:05.320 --> 02:59:07.260
Rep. Brian Poe: This would be the cloud services

asr-002120
02:59:07.260 --> 02:59:09.100
Rep. Brian Poe: here in the Philippines

asr-002121
02:59:09.100 --> 02:59:13.720
Rep. Brian Poe: amounts to 203.861

asr-002122
02:59:13.720 --> 02:59:15.140
Rep. Brian Poe: million pesos

asr-002123
02:59:15.140 --> 02:59:17.460
Rep. Brian Poe: e-government cloud hosting services.

asr-002124
02:59:17.460 --> 02:59:18.620
Rep. Brian Poe: This is now

asr-002125
02:59:18.620 --> 02:59:21.120
Rep. Brian Poe: the hosting abroad

asr-002126
02:59:21.120 --> 02:59:22.140
Rep. Brian Poe: is 490.557 million pesos MOE

asr-002127
02:59:22.160 --> 02:59:48.780
Rep. Brian Poe: plus 143.495 million pesos capital outlay for a total of 634.052 million pesos, and the project management operations is at 33.458 million pesos in terms of the MOE.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: All right.

asr-002129
02:59:49.780 --> 02:59:50.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, thank you for that.

asr-002130
02:59:50.780 --> 02:59:51.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So generally,

asr-002131
02:59:51.720 --> 02:59:53.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung categories are

asr-002132
02:59:53.220 --> 02:59:56.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano nga po yung una?

asr-002133
02:59:57.540 --> 02:59:59.080
Rep. Brian Poe: So it's just the first one.

asr-002134
02:59:59.120 --> 02:59:59.720
Rep. Brian Poe: The two big

asr-002135
02:59:59.720 --> 03:00:00.120
Rep. Brian Poe: chunks.

asr-002136
03:00:00.760 --> 03:00:02.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: One is co-location.

asr-002137
03:00:02.200 --> 03:00:03.960
Rep. Brian Poe: One is co-location. That's about 200

asr-002138
03:00:03.960 --> 03:00:04.550
Rep. Brian Poe: plus million.

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03:00:04.550 --> 03:00:05.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The other is cloud services.

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03:00:05.960 --> 03:00:07.560
Rep. Brian Poe: It's cloud services and that's 400 plus.

asr-002140
03:00:07.560 --> 03:00:09.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero yung una nyo, I forgot. Ano nga yung

asr-002141
03:00:09.920 --> 03:00:10.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: unang binanggit mo?

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03:00:10.920 --> 03:00:11.880
Rep. Brian Poe: Here, I'll

asr-002142
03:00:11.880 --> 03:00:13.240
Rep. Brian Poe: go over it again real quick.

asr-002143
03:00:15.740 --> 03:00:17.820
Rep. Brian Poe: So, ito po. Ang e-gov

asr-002144
03:00:17.820 --> 03:00:19.860
Rep. Brian Poe: data center, Subic.

asr-002145
03:00:19.860 --> 03:00:21.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay. It's just for the Subic

asr-002146
03:00:21.280 --> 03:00:23.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center. Okay, right.

asr-002147
03:00:24.300 --> 03:00:25.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so yun nga.

asr-002148
03:00:25.780 --> 03:00:26.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi looking at this

asr-002149
03:00:26.820 --> 03:00:29.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the data,

asr-002150
03:00:30.000 --> 03:00:31.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay, so

asr-002151
03:00:31.240 --> 03:00:33.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: basically what you shared

asr-002152
03:00:33.380 --> 03:00:35.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: follows the pattern from

asr-002153
03:00:35.400 --> 03:00:37.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the recent years.

asr-002154
03:00:38.520 --> 03:00:39.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2023,

asr-002155
03:00:39.840 --> 03:00:41.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2024, and so on. Okay,

asr-002156
03:00:41.800 --> 03:00:43.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I hope, hindi ko alam kung ready na yung

asr-002157
03:00:43.920 --> 03:00:47.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ready na ba?

asr-002158
03:00:47.700 --> 03:00:49.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baka hindi pa eh.

asr-002159
03:00:49.980 --> 03:00:51.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung slide.

asr-002160
03:00:51.780 --> 03:00:52.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-002161
03:00:53.080 --> 03:00:55.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayan.

asr-002162
03:00:56.240 --> 03:00:57.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so this is

asr-002163
03:00:57.680 --> 03:00:59.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a visualization of

asr-002164
03:00:59.260 --> 03:01:01.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the list of projects

asr-002165
03:01:01.680 --> 03:01:02.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that I was provided.

asr-002166
03:01:04.040 --> 03:01:04.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-002167
03:01:04.260 --> 03:01:04.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-002168
03:01:05.140 --> 03:01:05.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Noong

asr-002169
03:01:05.880 --> 03:01:09.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DICT. So, I was, ito nga,

asr-002170
03:01:09.740 --> 03:01:10.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the title of the

asr-002171
03:01:10.820 --> 03:01:13.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: submission is list of

asr-002172
03:01:13.500 --> 03:01:15.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: NGDC projects

asr-002173
03:01:15.160 --> 03:01:17.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from fiscal year 2016

asr-002174
03:01:17.240 --> 03:01:20.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to fiscal year 2026.

asr-002175
03:01:20.740 --> 03:01:21.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, one decade

asr-002176
03:01:21.620 --> 03:01:22.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of

asr-002177
03:01:22.740 --> 03:01:25.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: appropriations or investment

asr-002178
03:01:25.160 --> 03:01:27.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the national

asr-002179
03:01:27.540 --> 03:01:28.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government

asr-002180
03:01:29.260 --> 03:01:32.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center project or program.

asr-002181
03:01:32.720 --> 03:01:35.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, and it lists

asr-002182
03:01:35.920 --> 03:01:37.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a total of

asr-002183
03:01:37.260 --> 03:01:41.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: total of

asr-002184
03:01:41.260 --> 03:01:43.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 73 projects.

asr-002185
03:01:43.740 --> 03:01:45.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 73 projects.

asr-002186
03:01:45.400 --> 03:01:47.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I say 73 here,

asr-002187
03:01:48.640 --> 03:01:49.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: although curiously,

asr-002188
03:01:51.320 --> 03:01:55.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you see that the

asr-002189
03:01:55.240 --> 03:01:56.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: table here,

asr-002190
03:01:57.520 --> 03:01:58.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: item number, itemized eh,

asr-002191
03:01:59.260 --> 03:02:01.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 73. Pero yung item number

asr-002192
03:02:01.800 --> 03:02:04.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 70 is skipped over.

asr-002193
03:02:05.840 --> 03:02:06.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baka naman,

asr-002194
03:02:07.000 --> 03:02:08.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: typographical error lang yun, o

asr-002195
03:02:08.980 --> 03:02:10.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baka naman may

asr-002196
03:02:10.860 --> 03:02:11.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dinilit kayo.

asr-002197
03:02:12.260 --> 03:02:14.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi nyo po makikita dyan, dun sa submission nyo.

asr-002198
03:02:15.220 --> 03:02:16.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: If you look at the submission,

asr-002199
03:02:16.780 --> 03:02:17.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the sponsor,

asr-002200
03:02:19.180 --> 03:02:20.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the one that was given me,

asr-002201
03:02:23.180 --> 03:02:23.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the list,

asr-002202
03:02:26.660 --> 03:02:27.960
Rep. Brian Poe: ito, wala kayo?

asr-002203
03:02:27.960 --> 03:02:28.980
Rep. Brian Poe: I have a copy po.

asr-002204
03:02:29.260 --> 03:02:30.480
Rep. Brian Poe: If I may request,

asr-002205
03:02:31.300 --> 03:02:33.600
Rep. Brian Poe: could we request maybe one of the pages

asr-002206
03:02:33.600 --> 03:02:36.020
Rep. Brian Poe: para I can take a look at it?

asr-002207
03:02:53.360 --> 03:02:54.320
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker,

asr-002208
03:02:54.540 --> 03:02:55.880
Rep. Brian Poe: I am now in possession of the

asr-002209
03:02:55.880 --> 03:02:58.880
Rep. Brian Poe: document being referred to.

asr-002210
03:02:59.260 --> 03:03:01.680
Rep. Brian Poe: These are the list of

asr-002211
03:03:01.680 --> 03:03:03.940
Rep. Brian Poe: NGDC projects

asr-002212
03:03:03.940 --> 03:03:05.040
Rep. Brian Poe: from fiscal year

asr-002213
03:03:05.040 --> 03:03:07.740
Rep. Brian Poe: 2016 to fiscal year

asr-002214
03:03:07.740 --> 03:03:08.780
Rep. Brian Poe: 2026.

asr-002215
03:03:09.180 --> 03:03:11.920
Rep. Brian Poe: It has a total of 73 projects

asr-002216
03:03:11.920 --> 03:03:12.980
Rep. Brian Poe: but the

asr-002217
03:03:12.980 --> 03:03:15.600
Rep. Brian Poe: my colleague is correct

asr-002218
03:03:15.600 --> 03:03:17.860
Rep. Brian Poe: in which it goes

asr-002219
03:03:17.860 --> 03:03:19.660
Rep. Brian Poe: up to 73

asr-002220
03:03:19.660 --> 03:03:20.260
Rep. Brian Poe: items

asr-002221
03:03:20.260 --> 03:03:23.780
Rep. Brian Poe: but it does skip number 70.

asr-002222
03:03:24.800 --> 03:03:25.560
Rep. Brian Poe: And

asr-002223
03:03:25.560 --> 03:03:27.760
Rep. Brian Poe: I'm not sure why.

asr-002224
03:03:27.760 --> 03:03:28.640
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay, hold on.

asr-002225
03:03:29.260 --> 03:03:31.260
Rep. Brian Poe: I'm not sure with DICT but

asr-002226
03:03:31.260 --> 03:03:35.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it also seems to go

asr-002227
03:03:35.700 --> 03:03:36.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: clarification lang

asr-002228
03:03:36.840 --> 03:03:39.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: backward because it's 2025

asr-002229
03:03:39.280 --> 03:03:41.640
Rep. Brian Poe: Yeah, and also the ordering has been

asr-002230
03:03:41.640 --> 03:03:42.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Right.

asr-002231
03:03:42.800 --> 03:03:44.520
Rep. Brian Poe: But there's basically

asr-002232
03:03:44.520 --> 03:03:46.480
Rep. Brian Poe: there's one missing project.

asr-002233
03:03:52.780 --> 03:03:54.940
Rep. Brian Poe: We're currently going through it.

asr-002234
03:03:55.120 --> 03:03:56.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, anyway, I just

asr-002235
03:03:56.140 --> 03:03:58.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: noticed that off the bat.

asr-002236
03:03:59.260 --> 03:04:00.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-002237
03:04:00.140 --> 03:04:01.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So anyway, if there's an explanation,

asr-002238
03:04:01.840 --> 03:04:03.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: then okay.

asr-002239
03:04:03.860 --> 03:04:05.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, well, anyway,

asr-002240
03:04:05.200 --> 03:04:07.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what was submitted was 72,

asr-002241
03:04:07.640 --> 03:04:12.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 72 rather than 73 entries or projects

asr-002242
03:04:12.040 --> 03:04:16.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: totaling from fiscal year 2016 to 2026

asr-002243
03:04:16.800 --> 03:04:19.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: totaling 4.98 billion.

asr-002244
03:04:19.240 --> 03:04:21.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yun yung total po yan pag sinuman nyo.

asr-002245
03:04:21.080 --> 03:04:23.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Even though it's not total there.

asr-002246
03:04:23.020 --> 03:04:23.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-002247
03:04:23.740 --> 03:04:25.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002248
03:04:25.140 --> 03:04:26.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Um,

asr-002249
03:04:29.260 --> 03:04:33.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, the general categories of spending.

asr-002250
03:04:33.860 --> 03:04:35.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, kaya ako po hiningi

asr-002251
03:04:35.240 --> 03:04:37.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil gusto ko rin sana magkaroon ng picture

asr-002252
03:04:37.960 --> 03:04:39.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at maintindihan

asr-002253
03:04:39.460 --> 03:04:41.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ba yung itsura nung

asr-002254
03:04:41.880 --> 03:04:44.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

asr-002255
03:04:44.000 --> 03:04:45.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung ating

asr-002256
03:04:45.240 --> 03:04:46.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data

asr-002257
03:04:46.840 --> 03:04:47.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

asr-002258
03:04:47.340 --> 03:04:49.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: center

asr-002259
03:04:49.120 --> 03:04:49.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

asr-002260
03:04:49.960 --> 03:04:51.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: capacity

asr-002261
03:04:51.220 --> 03:04:52.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-002262
03:04:52.620 --> 03:04:53.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah

asr-002263
03:04:53.460 --> 03:04:55.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within our

asr-002264
03:04:55.720 --> 03:04:56.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

asr-002265
03:04:56.700 --> 03:04:57.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: territory

asr-002266
03:04:57.580 --> 03:04:59.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as well as yung cloud.

asr-002267
03:04:59.260 --> 03:05:00.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon.

asr-002268
03:05:00.260 --> 03:05:01.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon.

asr-002269
03:05:01.260 --> 03:05:02.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002270
03:05:02.260 --> 03:05:03.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-002271
03:05:03.260 --> 03:05:05.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you look at

asr-002272
03:05:05.260 --> 03:05:06.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you

asr-002273
03:05:06.260 --> 03:05:08.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi ang pangalan ng proyekto,

asr-002274
03:05:08.260 --> 03:05:11.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national government data center infrastructure eh.

asr-002275
03:05:11.260 --> 03:05:12.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So presumably,

asr-002276
03:05:12.260 --> 03:05:16.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this has been the one decade investment in building that

asr-002277
03:05:16.260 --> 03:05:17.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

asr-002278
03:05:17.260 --> 03:05:19.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center infrastructure.

asr-002279
03:05:19.260 --> 03:05:21.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kumbaga, parang sovereign

asr-002280
03:05:21.260 --> 03:05:22.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah

asr-002281
03:05:22.260 --> 03:05:24.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center infrastructure.

asr-002282
03:05:24.260 --> 03:05:25.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And what do we see?

asr-002283
03:05:25.260 --> 03:05:26.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-002284
03:05:26.260 --> 03:05:28.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the four general categories,

asr-002285
03:05:28.260 --> 03:05:29.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002286
03:05:29.060 --> 03:05:31.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: categories of spend,

asr-002287
03:05:31.060 --> 03:05:32.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002288
03:05:32.060 --> 03:05:34.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa aming, sa ginawa nating pagsusuri

asr-002289
03:05:34.060 --> 03:05:35.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: would be

asr-002290
03:05:35.060 --> 03:05:36.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung cloud

asr-002291
03:05:36.060 --> 03:05:40.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and managed services procurement.

asr-002292
03:05:40.060 --> 03:05:41.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya yun.

asr-002293
03:05:41.060 --> 03:05:42.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos,

asr-002294
03:05:42.060 --> 03:05:43.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: two,

asr-002295
03:05:43.060 --> 03:05:45.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: collocation

asr-002296
03:05:45.060 --> 03:05:46.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and space

asr-002297
03:05:46.060 --> 03:05:48.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or rack lease.

asr-002298
03:05:48.060 --> 03:05:49.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon.

asr-002299
03:05:49.060 --> 03:05:50.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then three,

asr-002300
03:05:50.060 --> 03:05:51.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: construction,

asr-002301
03:05:51.060 --> 03:05:52.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no,

asr-002302
03:05:52.060 --> 03:05:54.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and building of facilities.

asr-002303
03:05:54.060 --> 03:05:57.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun yung actual na nagtayo ng infra.

asr-002304
03:05:57.060 --> 03:05:58.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then,

asr-002305
03:05:58.060 --> 03:05:59.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002306
03:05:59.060 --> 03:06:00.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: four,

asr-002307
03:06:00.060 --> 03:06:02.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this is the smallest one,

asr-002308
03:06:02.060 --> 03:06:03.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: purchase of network,

asr-002309
03:06:03.060 --> 03:06:04.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equipment,

asr-002310
03:06:04.060 --> 03:06:06.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: consultants and others.

asr-002311
03:06:06.060 --> 03:06:07.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002312
03:06:07.060 --> 03:06:08.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pa nga isa dyan,

asr-002313
03:06:08.060 --> 03:06:09.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano eh,

asr-002314
03:06:09.060 --> 03:06:11.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: purchase of meals for a

asr-002315
03:06:11.060 --> 03:06:12.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: conference.

asr-002316
03:06:12.060 --> 03:06:13.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002317
03:06:13.060 --> 03:06:14.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nandyan po.

asr-002318
03:06:14.060 --> 03:06:15.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002319
03:06:15.060 --> 03:06:16.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But,

asr-002320
03:06:16.060 --> 03:06:17.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon,

asr-002321
03:06:17.060 --> 03:06:19.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang makikita rin natin dito,

asr-002322
03:06:19.060 --> 03:06:20.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the,

asr-002323
03:06:20.060 --> 03:06:21.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002324
03:06:21.060 --> 03:06:25.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: program of national government data center infrastructure.

asr-002325
03:06:25.060 --> 03:06:26.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually,

asr-002326
03:06:26.060 --> 03:06:27.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002327
03:06:27.060 --> 03:06:29.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung i-

asr-002328
03:06:29.060 --> 03:06:31.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proportionally,

asr-002329
03:06:31.060 --> 03:06:32.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag titignan mo,

asr-002330
03:06:32.060 --> 03:06:34.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 75 percent

asr-002331
03:06:34.060 --> 03:06:35.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is,

asr-002332
03:06:35.060 --> 03:06:36.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: goes to rent.

asr-002333
03:06:36.060 --> 03:06:37.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then,

asr-002334
03:06:37.060 --> 03:06:38.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga 25 percent,

asr-002335
03:06:38.060 --> 03:06:40.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung actual build.

asr-002336
03:06:40.060 --> 03:06:41.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002337
03:06:41.060 --> 03:06:42.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-002338
03:06:42.060 --> 03:06:43.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: most of the budget for that,

asr-002339
03:06:43.060 --> 03:06:44.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002340
03:06:44.060 --> 03:06:46.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: one decade of spending has gone to

asr-002341
03:06:46.060 --> 03:06:47.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renting

asr-002342
03:06:47.060 --> 03:06:49.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as against building.

asr-002343
03:06:49.060 --> 03:06:50.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002344
03:06:50.060 --> 03:06:51.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah,

asr-002345
03:06:51.060 --> 03:06:53.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos,

asr-002346
03:06:53.060 --> 03:06:55.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002347
03:06:55.060 --> 03:06:56.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kapansin-pansin din.

asr-002348
03:06:56.060 --> 03:06:57.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually,

asr-002349
03:06:57.060 --> 03:06:59.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na,

asr-002350
03:06:59.060 --> 03:07:01.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: though I have not totaled it,

asr-002351
03:07:01.060 --> 03:07:02.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but,

asr-002352
03:07:02.060 --> 03:07:04.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a significant portion,

asr-002353
03:07:04.060 --> 03:07:06.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if not the biggest portion,

asr-002354
03:07:06.060 --> 03:07:09.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the 4 billion has gone to

asr-002355
03:07:09.060 --> 03:07:12.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cloud and managed services.

asr-002356
03:07:12.060 --> 03:07:14.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung kulay blue.

asr-002357
03:07:14.060 --> 03:07:17.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung kulay blue dyan sa ating visualization.

asr-002358
03:07:17.060 --> 03:07:18.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And especially,

asr-002359
03:07:18.060 --> 03:07:19.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: since,

asr-002360
03:07:20.060 --> 03:07:21.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2023,

asr-002361
03:07:21.060 --> 03:07:22.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kitang kita natin,

asr-002362
03:07:22.060 --> 03:07:23.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no,

asr-002363
03:07:23.060 --> 03:07:24.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung paglaki nung,

asr-002364
03:07:24.060 --> 03:07:25.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002365
03:07:25.060 --> 03:07:27.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag-paglaan ng pondo

asr-002366
03:07:27.060 --> 03:07:29.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for cloud and managed services,

asr-002367
03:07:29.060 --> 03:07:35.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 734 million for fiscal year 2023,

asr-002368
03:07:35.060 --> 03:07:38.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 809 million for 2024,

asr-002369
03:07:38.060 --> 03:07:44.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and 226 million for 2025.

asr-002370
03:07:44.060 --> 03:07:47.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Itong 2026,

asr-002371
03:07:47.060 --> 03:07:48.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, sabi ko nga,

asr-002372
03:07:48.060 --> 03:07:49.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung listahan,

asr-002373
03:07:49.060 --> 03:07:50.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi nakabatay sa listahan yan eh.

asr-002374
03:07:50.060 --> 03:07:51.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-002375
03:07:51.060 --> 03:07:52.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002376
03:07:52.060 --> 03:07:53.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pa.

asr-002377
03:07:53.060 --> 03:07:54.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And,

asr-002378
03:07:54.060 --> 03:07:56.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the breakdown that you gave,

asr-002379
03:07:56.060 --> 03:07:58.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: correct me if I'm wrong,

asr-002380
03:07:58.060 --> 03:07:59.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-002381
03:07:59.060 --> 03:08:00.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Speaker,

asr-002382
03:08:00.060 --> 03:08:02.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

asr-002383
03:08:02.060 --> 03:08:03.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama ba?

asr-002384
03:08:03.060 --> 03:08:05.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinakamalaki pa rin yung cloud.

asr-002385
03:08:05.060 --> 03:08:06.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that correct?

asr-002386
03:08:06.060 --> 03:08:07.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That's correct,

asr-002387
03:08:07.060 --> 03:08:08.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker.

asr-002388
03:08:08.060 --> 03:08:09.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Apo.

asr-002389
03:08:09.060 --> 03:08:10.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002390
03:08:10.060 --> 03:08:11.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-002391
03:08:12.060 --> 03:08:13.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay.

asr-002392
03:08:13.060 --> 03:08:15.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that's one observation.

asr-002393
03:08:15.060 --> 03:08:17.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The other observation,

asr-002394
03:08:17.060 --> 03:08:20.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron po bang explanation doon

asr-002395
03:08:20.060 --> 03:08:23.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa procurement of cloud services?

asr-002396
03:08:23.060 --> 03:08:24.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002397
03:08:24.060 --> 03:08:25.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Well,

asr-002398
03:08:25.060 --> 03:08:26.060
Rep. Brian Poe: from,

asr-002399
03:08:26.060 --> 03:08:27.060
Rep. Brian Poe: from my understanding,

asr-002400
03:08:27.060 --> 03:08:28.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker,

asr-002401
03:08:28.060 --> 03:08:29.060
Rep. Brian Poe: ah,

asr-002402
03:08:29.060 --> 03:08:30.060
Rep. Brian Poe: the,

asr-002403
03:08:30.060 --> 03:08:31.060
Rep. Brian Poe: there's an urgent need kasi

asr-002404
03:08:31.060 --> 03:08:32.060
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to store the data right away.

asr-002405
03:08:32.060 --> 03:08:33.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Building the data centers takes time

asr-002406
03:08:33.060 --> 03:08:34.060
Rep. Brian Poe: and takes additional funding.

asr-002407
03:08:34.060 --> 03:08:35.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Okay.

asr-002408
03:08:35.060 --> 03:08:36.060
Rep. Brian Poe: If we're to immediately address the needs

asr-002409
03:08:36.060 --> 03:08:37.060
Rep. Brian Poe: of government agencies

asr-002410
03:08:37.060 --> 03:08:38.060
Rep. Brian Poe: and our constituents,

asr-002411
03:08:38.060 --> 03:08:39.060
Rep. Brian Poe: we have to immediately first procure the cloud services.

asr-002412
03:08:39.060 --> 03:08:40.060
Rep. Brian Poe: And then,

asr-002413
03:08:40.060 --> 03:08:41.060
Rep. Brian Poe: whatever is left over,

asr-002414
03:08:41.060 --> 03:08:42.060
Rep. Brian Poe: we can now invest this into

asr-002415
03:08:42.060 --> 03:08:43.060
Rep. Brian Poe: physical infrastructure here in the Philippines.

asr-002416
03:08:43.060 --> 03:08:44.060
Rep. Brian Poe: So,

asr-002425
03:08:52.060 --> 03:08:53.080
Rep. Brian Poe: a base structure here in the Philippines

asr-002426
03:08:53.080 --> 03:08:55.060
Rep. Brian Poe: which will take time to build and develop,

asr-002427
03:08:55.060 --> 03:08:56.060
Rep. Brian Poe: maintain

asr-002428
03:08:56.060 --> 03:08:58.060
Rep. Brian Poe: and we have to hire staff for it pa.

asr-002429
03:08:58.060 --> 03:08:59.060
Rep. Brian Poe: So,

asr-002430
03:08:59.060 --> 03:09:02.060
Rep. Brian Poe: if we're working with the limited budget that we currently have,

asr-002431
03:09:02.060 --> 03:09:06.060
Rep. Brian Poe: the initial funds always go to cloud services

asr-002432
03:09:06.060 --> 03:09:08.060
Rep. Brian Poe: and also

asr-002433
03:09:08.060 --> 03:09:09.060
Rep. Brian Poe: and co-location services.

asr-002434
03:09:09.060 --> 03:09:10.060
Rep. Brian Poe: However,

asr-002435
03:09:10.060 --> 03:09:11.060
Rep. Brian Poe: if you ask this representation

asr-002436
03:09:11.060 --> 03:09:13.060
Rep. Brian Poe: and the members of the DICT,

asr-002437
03:09:13.060 --> 03:09:16.060
Rep. Brian Poe: all of us are in favor of additional funding

asr-002438
03:09:16.060 --> 03:09:19.060
Rep. Brian Poe: for physical infrastructure housed here in the Philippines

asr-002439
03:09:19.060 --> 03:09:21.060
Rep. Brian Poe: for data sovereignty purposes.

asr-002440
03:09:21.060 --> 03:09:21.440
Rep. Brian Poe: purposes.

asr-002441
03:09:22.640 --> 03:09:24.080
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yung actual

asr-002442
03:09:24.080 --> 03:09:26.440
Rep. Brian Poe: construction,

asr-002443
03:09:27.180 --> 03:09:29.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung actual na ginawa ng gobyerno,

asr-002444
03:09:29.260 --> 03:09:30.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag-aari ng gobyerno, presumably,

asr-002445
03:09:31.620 --> 03:09:32.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they happened in

asr-002446
03:09:32.980 --> 03:09:34.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2017. So, yung green.

asr-002447
03:09:35.780 --> 03:09:37.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2017, initially,

asr-002448
03:09:37.780 --> 03:09:38.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 130

asr-002449
03:09:38.360 --> 03:09:41.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: million. Tapos,

asr-002450
03:09:41.500 --> 03:09:42.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung the next big one

asr-002451
03:09:42.720 --> 03:09:43.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was

asr-002452
03:09:43.660 --> 03:09:45.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2024.

asr-002453
03:09:47.080 --> 03:09:48.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito yung data center sa Subic,

asr-002454
03:09:48.860 --> 03:09:50.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 699 million.

asr-002455
03:09:51.060 --> 03:09:51.950
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-002455-split-2
03:09:51.950 --> 03:09:53.140
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, that's correct.

asr-002456
03:09:53.580 --> 03:09:54.130
Rep. Brian Poe: That's correct.

asr-002456-split-2
03:09:54.130 --> 03:09:55.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Could the sponsor describe

asr-002457
03:09:55.260 --> 03:09:56.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ba yung tinayo sa Subic?

asr-002458
03:09:57.640 --> 03:09:59.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano meron tayo sa Subic, in short?

asr-002459
03:09:59.820 --> 03:10:00.520
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, we have

asr-002460
03:10:00.520 --> 03:10:03.080
Rep. Brian Poe: Subic, and that's why

asr-002461
03:10:03.080 --> 03:10:04.780
Rep. Brian Poe: we're giving 78 million

asr-002462
03:10:04.780 --> 03:10:07.240
Rep. Brian Poe: pesos for the MOE for that

asr-002463
03:10:07.240 --> 03:10:08.420
Rep. Brian Poe: Subic operation.

asr-002463-split-2
03:10:08.420 --> 03:10:08.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What does it do?

asr-002464
03:10:09.020 --> 03:10:10.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What is it and what does it do?

asr-002465
03:10:10.740 --> 03:10:13.200
Rep. Brian Poe: From my understanding, the Subic

asr-002466
03:10:13.200 --> 03:10:15.040
Rep. Brian Poe: data center

asr-002467
03:10:15.040 --> 03:10:16.780
Rep. Brian Poe: is used to store

asr-002468
03:10:16.780 --> 03:10:19.100
Rep. Brian Poe: the critical government data that we

asr-002469
03:10:19.100 --> 03:10:20.600
Rep. Brian Poe: spoke of earlier when

asr-002470
03:10:20.600 --> 03:10:22.580
Rep. Brian Poe: Congressman Nazal was questioning

asr-002471
03:10:22.580 --> 03:10:23.960
Rep. Brian Poe: how much of our critical

asr-002472
03:10:23.960 --> 03:10:26.600
Rep. Brian Poe: data is stored. It's 20%,

asr-002473
03:10:26.600 --> 03:10:28.680
Rep. Brian Poe: if I'm not mistaken, of our

asr-002474
03:10:28.680 --> 03:10:30.400
Rep. Brian Poe: critical government data is stored in

asr-002475
03:10:30.400 --> 03:10:32.480
Rep. Brian Poe: 20%.

asr-002476
03:10:32.480 --> 03:10:34.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pwede natin sabihin yung

asr-002477
03:10:34.820 --> 03:10:36.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the main

asr-002478
03:10:36.180 --> 03:10:38.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center of the national

asr-002479
03:10:38.620 --> 03:10:40.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government is the one in Subic.

asr-002480
03:10:41.480 --> 03:10:42.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that correct?

asr-002480-split-2
03:10:42.040 --> 03:10:42.860
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, that's

asr-002481
03:10:42.860 --> 03:10:43.480
Rep. Brian Poe: correct.

asr-002481-split-2
03:10:43.480 --> 03:10:44.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002482
03:10:45.820 --> 03:10:46.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, malaking

asr-002483
03:10:46.920 --> 03:10:48.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bahagi ng spend

asr-002484
03:10:48.440 --> 03:10:50.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is yung collocation nga.

asr-002485
03:10:50.600 --> 03:10:51.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Collocation.

asr-002486
03:10:52.320 --> 03:10:54.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for purposes of our

asr-002487
03:10:54.460 --> 03:10:56.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: discussion, sabihin nung collocation,

asr-002488
03:10:57.240 --> 03:10:58.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: rent. Tama po ba?

asr-002489
03:10:59.100 --> 03:10:59.620
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

asr-002489-split-2
03:10:59.620 --> 03:11:00.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, it's renting

asr-002490
03:11:00.740 --> 03:11:02.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of space.

asr-002491
03:11:02.680 --> 03:11:03.840
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes.

asr-002491-split-2
03:11:03.840 --> 03:11:04.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: To house

asr-002492
03:11:04.140 --> 03:11:07.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the actual compute

asr-002493
03:11:07.860 --> 03:11:10.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the data center.

asr-002494
03:11:11.220 --> 03:11:11.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama?

asr-002494-split-2
03:11:11.800 --> 03:11:12.420
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yes,

asr-002495
03:11:12.500 --> 03:11:14.460
Rep. Brian Poe: that is correct. The rental of fracks and

asr-002496
03:11:14.460 --> 03:11:14.820
Rep. Brian Poe: servers.

asr-002497
03:11:16.100 --> 03:11:18.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung, yung, mabagay,

asr-002498
03:11:18.320 --> 03:11:20.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung bahay, yung facility,

asr-002499
03:11:20.600 --> 03:11:22.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung building, the

asr-002500
03:11:22.300 --> 03:11:24.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: racks, and

asr-002501
03:11:24.300 --> 03:11:26.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung kuryente, so on

asr-002502
03:11:26.560 --> 03:11:27.910
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so forth. Yun po yun.

asr-002502-split-2
03:11:27.910 --> 03:11:28.600
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, this is

asr-002503
03:11:28.600 --> 03:11:29.560
Rep. Brian Poe: correct.

asr-002503-split-2
03:11:29.560 --> 03:11:30.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But not the actual

asr-002504
03:11:30.400 --> 03:11:32.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: compute and networking

asr-002505
03:11:32.360 --> 03:11:34.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equipment

asr-002506
03:11:35.140 --> 03:11:36.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and infrastructure itself.

asr-002507
03:11:37.040 --> 03:11:38.500
Rep. Brian Poe: It's not necessarily new

asr-002508
03:11:38.500 --> 03:11:40.040
Rep. Brian Poe: infrastructure. It's more of

asr-002509
03:11:40.040 --> 03:11:42.780
Rep. Brian Poe: rental of services from Globe, BLDT,

asr-002510
03:11:42.840 --> 03:11:43.540
Rep. Brian Poe: and Converge.

asr-002511
03:11:44.420 --> 03:11:46.520
Rep. Brian Poe: But co-located, so it's here in the

asr-002512
03:11:46.520 --> 03:11:46.920
Rep. Brian Poe: Philippines.

asr-002513
03:11:46.920 --> 03:11:50.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oo. Pero para malinawan lang ako,

asr-002514
03:11:50.600 --> 03:11:52.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ninupahan lang doon, yung space,

asr-002515
03:11:53.580 --> 03:11:54.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's not

asr-002516
03:11:54.240 --> 03:11:56.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the, you know,

asr-002517
03:11:56.720 --> 03:11:58.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the servers,

asr-002518
03:11:59.100 --> 03:12:00.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: not the networking

asr-002519
03:12:00.960 --> 03:12:02.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equipment, and so on.

asr-002520
03:12:03.960 --> 03:12:04.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-002521
03:12:05.060 --> 03:12:06.660
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes. It's the space, so

asr-002522
03:12:06.660 --> 03:12:08.680
Rep. Brian Poe: the agencies bring their servers to

asr-002523
03:12:08.680 --> 03:12:10.030
Rep. Brian Poe: those rented spaces.

asr-002523-split-2
03:12:10.030 --> 03:12:10.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oh, okay. Alright.

asr-002524
03:12:11.260 --> 03:12:11.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-002525
03:12:12.920 --> 03:12:14.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well,

asr-002526
03:12:14.520 --> 03:12:15.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun lang yung tanong ko dito.

asr-002527
03:12:16.360 --> 03:12:17.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There's a lot of money

asr-002528
03:12:17.560 --> 03:12:20.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in this budget is for co-location.

asr-002529
03:12:20.600 --> 03:12:21.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-002530
03:12:21.600 --> 03:12:30.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang tanong natin,

asr-002531
03:12:30.840 --> 03:12:32.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: how come there's no, I don't

asr-002532
03:12:32.660 --> 03:12:34.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: find any spending

asr-002533
03:12:34.300 --> 03:12:35.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the actual

asr-002534
03:12:35.620 --> 03:12:38.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equipment

asr-002535
03:12:38.360 --> 03:12:40.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for, you know, the computers,

asr-002536
03:12:40.820 --> 03:12:42.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the servers, the

asr-002537
03:12:42.040 --> 03:12:44.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: networking gear, and so on and so

asr-002538
03:12:44.620 --> 03:12:45.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: forth? Wala po.

asr-002539
03:12:47.000 --> 03:12:48.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bakit umuupa lang

asr-002540
03:12:48.660 --> 03:12:49.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng space?

asr-002541
03:12:50.600 --> 03:12:52.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong gamit nun?

asr-002542
03:12:53.080 --> 03:12:53.930
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Please explain.

asr-002542-split-2
03:12:53.930 --> 03:12:55.160
Rep. Brian Poe: That's a very fair

asr-002543
03:12:55.160 --> 03:12:57.280
Rep. Brian Poe: question. We just don't have enough

asr-002544
03:12:57.280 --> 03:12:59.240
Rep. Brian Poe: funding to build these data

asr-002545
03:12:59.240 --> 03:13:01.120
Rep. Brian Poe: centers as required.

asr-002546
03:13:01.420 --> 03:13:03.020
Rep. Brian Poe: We have enough funding to

asr-002547
03:13:03.020 --> 03:13:05.040
Rep. Brian Poe: rent cloud

asr-002548
03:13:05.040 --> 03:13:07.080
Rep. Brian Poe: space, but that money is not

asr-002549
03:13:07.080 --> 03:13:08.760
Rep. Brian Poe: enough for us to build the necessary

asr-002550
03:13:08.760 --> 03:13:11.240
Rep. Brian Poe: equipment that we would need

asr-002551
03:13:11.240 --> 03:13:13.300
Rep. Brian Poe: to locally house

asr-002552
03:13:13.300 --> 03:13:14.620
Rep. Brian Poe: our servers. Kung baka,

asr-002553
03:13:15.000 --> 03:13:17.140
Rep. Brian Poe: we're given this

asr-002554
03:13:17.140 --> 03:13:19.460
Rep. Brian Poe: small portion of what is actually

asr-002555
03:13:19.460 --> 03:13:20.580
Rep. Brian Poe: required for,

asr-002556
03:13:20.600 --> 03:13:22.480
Rep. Brian Poe: uh, actual infrastructure

asr-002557
03:13:22.480 --> 03:13:24.480
Rep. Brian Poe: development. So, cloud services.

asr-002558
03:13:24.920 --> 03:13:26.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, I understand. Parang ang intindi ko,

asr-002559
03:13:27.460 --> 03:13:28.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: based on reading the

asr-002560
03:13:28.620 --> 03:13:30.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: titles of the contracts,

asr-002561
03:13:30.900 --> 03:13:32.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh, government is renting

asr-002562
03:13:32.760 --> 03:13:33.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the

asr-002563
03:13:33.980 --> 03:13:36.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: essentially parang

asr-002564
03:13:36.160 --> 03:13:37.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: floor space,

asr-002565
03:13:37.820 --> 03:13:40.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: di ba? But not the actual

asr-002566
03:13:40.740 --> 03:13:41.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: compute.

asr-002567
03:13:42.860 --> 03:13:44.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Floor space lang. So,

asr-002568
03:13:44.600 --> 03:13:46.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: anong laman nun? Parang yung

asr-002569
03:13:46.620 --> 03:13:48.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bahay lang. The shell.

asr-002570
03:13:48.380 --> 03:13:50.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But what about the actual,

asr-002571
03:13:50.600 --> 03:13:52.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the actual compute?

asr-002572
03:13:56.260 --> 03:14:12.520
Rep. Brian Poe: So, yes, you're correct.

asr-002573
03:14:12.760 --> 03:14:14.660
Rep. Brian Poe: Some of them do have the computing

asr-002574
03:14:14.660 --> 03:14:16.740
Rep. Brian Poe: services included. However,

asr-002575
03:14:17.160 --> 03:14:18.420
Rep. Brian Poe: for the ones that are literally

asr-002576
03:14:18.420 --> 03:14:20.420
Rep. Brian Poe: just space, even

asr-002577
03:14:20.420 --> 03:14:22.500
Rep. Brian Poe: that, the DICT doesn't have

asr-002578
03:14:22.500 --> 03:14:24.460
Rep. Brian Poe: enough funding for them to build

asr-002579
03:14:24.460 --> 03:14:26.560
Rep. Brian Poe: buildings, literal space,

asr-002580
03:14:26.940 --> 03:14:28.640
Rep. Brian Poe: to house the physical servers

asr-002581
03:14:28.640 --> 03:14:30.520
Rep. Brian Poe: needed by the different government

asr-002582
03:14:30.520 --> 03:14:32.320
Rep. Brian Poe: agencies. 30, I believe.

asr-002583
03:14:32.760 --> 03:14:34.400
Rep. Brian Poe: 34 government agencies.

asr-002584
03:14:34.880 --> 03:14:36.520
Rep. Brian Poe: There's just, we don't have

asr-002585
03:14:36.520 --> 03:14:38.020
Rep. Brian Poe: the buildings. DICT,

asr-002586
03:14:38.480 --> 03:14:40.280
Rep. Brian Poe: your building, you just

asr-002587
03:14:40.280 --> 03:14:41.060
Rep. Brian Poe: finished your building.

asr-002588
03:14:42.080 --> 03:14:44.420
Rep. Brian Poe: Even DICT is just renting its own

asr-002589
03:14:44.420 --> 03:14:46.420
Rep. Brian Poe: building, Madam Speaker.

asr-002590
03:14:47.740 --> 03:14:48.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, naintindihan ko,

asr-002591
03:14:49.180 --> 03:14:50.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renting, kasi,

asr-002592
03:14:50.420 --> 03:14:51.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lang. Pero, anong,

asr-002593
03:14:51.920 --> 03:14:54.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: anong ginagawa dun sa rented space na yun?

asr-002594
03:14:55.320 --> 03:14:56.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, over

asr-002595
03:14:56.720 --> 03:14:57.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this period, 10 years,

asr-002596
03:14:58.080 --> 03:14:59.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.28 billion.

asr-002597
03:15:00.000 --> 03:15:02.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: across 33 contracts

asr-002598
03:15:02.900 --> 03:15:04.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: are for

asr-002599
03:15:04.080 --> 03:15:05.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: collocation.

asr-002600
03:15:07.000 --> 03:15:08.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sinabi mo nga, PLDT,

asr-002601
03:15:08.640 --> 03:15:10.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: et cetera, yun yung mga pinag-upahan.

asr-002602
03:15:12.920 --> 03:15:14.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Many of these contracts are

asr-002603
03:15:14.400 --> 03:15:15.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: short-term contracts,

asr-002604
03:15:17.200 --> 03:15:18.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: three-month period, tapos

asr-002605
03:15:18.520 --> 03:15:20.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nire-renew every three months

asr-002606
03:15:20.560 --> 03:15:22.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for several

asr-002607
03:15:22.440 --> 03:15:24.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: years. Anong

asr-002608
03:15:24.440 --> 03:15:24.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: laman nun?

asr-002609
03:15:26.780 --> 03:15:28.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayong wala namang

asr-002610
03:15:28.520 --> 03:15:29.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reflected na budget,

asr-002611
03:15:30.000 --> 03:15:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for compute.

asr-002612
03:15:33.680 --> 03:15:34.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The servers.

asr-002613
03:15:35.140 --> 03:15:35.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Where are the servers?

asr-002614
03:15:36.720 --> 03:15:38.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Presumably, umupa tayo ng

asr-002615
03:15:38.440 --> 03:15:40.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: space sa

asr-002616
03:15:40.440 --> 03:15:43.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data center ng PLDT

asr-002617
03:15:43.040 --> 03:15:44.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para

asr-002618
03:15:44.440 --> 03:15:46.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilagay natin yung

asr-002619
03:15:46.200 --> 03:15:48.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga computer ng

asr-002620
03:15:48.200 --> 03:15:48.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gobyerno

asr-002621
03:15:48.920 --> 03:15:50.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to house

asr-002622
03:15:50.520 --> 03:15:52.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para

asr-002623
03:15:52.700 --> 03:15:57.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito

asr-002624
03:15:57.660 --> 03:15:59.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito yung mga hawaks

asr-002625
03:15:59.980 --> 03:16:00.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa data ng

asr-002626
03:16:00.980 --> 03:16:02.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pamamayang Pilipino.

asr-002627
03:16:03.700 --> 03:16:03.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba?

asr-002628
03:16:05.140 --> 03:16:05.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero,

asr-002629
03:16:06.960 --> 03:16:09.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang inupahan lang at binabayaran,

asr-002630
03:16:10.020 --> 03:16:12.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binayaran ng a total of 1.2

asr-002631
03:16:12.000 --> 03:16:14.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: billion is the space.

asr-002632
03:16:15.520 --> 03:16:15.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay?

asr-002633
03:16:16.080 --> 03:16:17.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, what's in that space?

asr-002642
03:16:29.980 --> 03:16:32.420
Rep. Brian Poe: they put their own.

asr-002643
03:16:33.020 --> 03:16:33.680
Rep. Brian Poe: So, for example,

asr-002644
03:16:33.800 --> 03:16:34.500
Rep. Brian Poe: customers put

asr-002645
03:16:34.500 --> 03:16:35.120
Rep. Brian Poe: their own servers.

asr-002646
03:16:36.260 --> 03:16:36.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002647
03:16:38.980 --> 03:16:39.620
Rep. Brian Poe: So,

asr-002648
03:16:39.920 --> 03:16:41.000
Rep. Brian Poe: basically,

asr-002649
03:16:41.460 --> 03:16:42.120
Rep. Brian Poe: for example,

asr-002650
03:16:42.520 --> 03:16:43.600
Rep. Brian Poe: let's say,

asr-002651
03:16:43.780 --> 03:16:44.320
Rep. Brian Poe: BIR,

asr-002652
03:16:44.820 --> 03:16:45.340
Rep. Brian Poe: CIC,

asr-002653
03:16:45.720 --> 03:16:46.520
Rep. Brian Poe: DICT,

asr-002654
03:16:46.860 --> 03:16:47.220
Rep. Brian Poe: SEC,

asr-002655
03:16:47.460 --> 03:16:47.880
Rep. Brian Poe: customs,

asr-002656
03:16:48.260 --> 03:16:49.640
Rep. Brian Poe: they would rent the space.

asr-002657
03:16:50.080 --> 03:16:51.500
Rep. Brian Poe: Some spaces have the servers

asr-002658
03:16:51.500 --> 03:16:52.220
Rep. Brian Poe: and computation

asr-002659
03:16:52.220 --> 03:16:53.700
Rep. Brian Poe: services available.

asr-002660
03:16:54.320 --> 03:16:55.040
Rep. Brian Poe: Others are really

asr-002661
03:16:55.040 --> 03:16:55.760
Rep. Brian Poe: just the space.

asr-002662
03:16:55.900 --> 03:16:56.200
Rep. Brian Poe: And then,

asr-002663
03:16:56.200 --> 03:16:57.500
Rep. Brian Poe: these agencies put

asr-002664
03:16:57.500 --> 03:16:58.300
Rep. Brian Poe: their own servers

asr-002665
03:16:58.300 --> 03:16:59.300
Rep. Brian Poe: in that space.

asr-002666
03:16:59.980 --> 03:17:01.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002667
03:17:01.520 --> 03:17:03.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun pala yun.

asr-002668
03:17:03.840 --> 03:17:04.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in other words,

asr-002669
03:17:04.720 --> 03:17:05.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: DIC acts as the

asr-002670
03:17:05.780 --> 03:17:06.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: procurer

asr-002671
03:17:06.540 --> 03:17:07.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for

asr-002672
03:17:07.820 --> 03:17:10.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ba tawag diyan?

asr-002673
03:17:10.460 --> 03:17:11.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Colocation space

asr-002674
03:17:11.980 --> 03:17:14.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for other government agencies.

asr-002675
03:17:14.620 --> 03:17:15.540
Rep. Brian Poe: Is that what you're saying?

asr-002676
03:17:15.680 --> 03:17:16.660
Rep. Brian Poe: But, to be fair also,

asr-002677
03:17:16.800 --> 03:17:18.180
Rep. Brian Poe: not all buildings

asr-002678
03:17:18.180 --> 03:17:19.080
Rep. Brian Poe: can qualify

asr-002679
03:17:19.080 --> 03:17:20.340
Rep. Brian Poe: as a space to put

asr-002680
03:17:20.340 --> 03:17:21.260
Rep. Brian Poe: a server.

asr-002681
03:17:21.900 --> 03:17:21.980
Rep. Brian Poe: No?

asr-002682
03:17:22.200 --> 03:17:23.440
Rep. Brian Poe: We need their

asr-002683
03:17:23.440 --> 03:17:24.920
Rep. Brian Poe: redundancy requirements,

asr-002684
03:17:25.360 --> 03:17:26.680
Rep. Brian Poe: energy requirements,

asr-002685
03:17:26.780 --> 03:17:27.500
Rep. Brian Poe: as well as

asr-002686
03:17:27.500 --> 03:17:28.700
Rep. Brian Poe: temperature requirements,

asr-002687
03:17:28.820 --> 03:17:29.180
Rep. Brian Poe: et cetera.

asr-002692
03:17:29.980 --> 03:17:31.260
Rep. Brian Poe: Not everyone would be able

asr-002693
03:17:31.260 --> 03:17:32.240
Rep. Brian Poe: to qualify for that,

asr-002694
03:17:32.420 --> 03:17:33.060
Rep. Brian Poe: which is why

asr-002695
03:17:33.060 --> 03:17:35.120
Rep. Brian Poe: the DICT needs to provide

asr-002696
03:17:35.120 --> 03:17:36.660
Rep. Brian Poe: the co-location services

asr-002697
03:17:36.660 --> 03:17:38.700
Rep. Brian Poe: and find the proper

asr-002698
03:17:38.700 --> 03:17:39.980
Rep. Brian Poe: private sector entities

asr-002699
03:17:39.980 --> 03:17:41.040
Rep. Brian Poe: within the Philippines

asr-002700
03:17:41.040 --> 03:17:42.020
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to house

asr-002701
03:17:42.020 --> 03:17:43.760
Rep. Brian Poe: critical government information.

asr-002702
03:17:43.900 --> 03:17:44.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, yeah.

asr-002703
03:17:44.320 --> 03:17:45.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Most of these contracts,

asr-002704
03:17:45.520 --> 03:17:45.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 33 contracts,

asr-002705
03:17:46.800 --> 03:17:49.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 18 have gone to

asr-002706
03:17:49.000 --> 03:17:50.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: EPLDT Incorporated

asr-002707
03:17:50.960 --> 03:17:53.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from 2020 to 2022.

asr-002708
03:17:54.620 --> 03:17:56.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, you have other...

asr-002709
03:17:56.080 --> 03:17:57.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are well-known players,

asr-002710
03:17:57.840 --> 03:17:59.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presumably in the industry,

asr-002711
03:17:59.400 --> 03:17:59.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: like Vita,

asr-002712
03:17:59.980 --> 03:18:01.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nitro Incorporated,

asr-002713
03:18:02.100 --> 03:18:03.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which is also connected

asr-002714
03:18:03.140 --> 03:18:04.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to PLDT,

asr-002715
03:18:04.960 --> 03:18:05.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Inove,

asr-002716
03:18:05.800 --> 03:18:06.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on and so forth.

asr-002717
03:18:07.560 --> 03:18:08.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun.

asr-002718
03:18:08.600 --> 03:18:08.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002719
03:18:09.040 --> 03:18:10.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naintindi lang natin

asr-002720
03:18:10.020 --> 03:18:11.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung role ng...

asr-002721
03:18:11.960 --> 03:18:13.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano yung gamit ng budget

asr-002722
03:18:13.100 --> 03:18:13.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DICT?

asr-002723
03:18:13.880 --> 03:18:15.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagre-rent kayo ng space.

asr-002724
03:18:15.500 --> 03:18:16.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, hindi necessarily

asr-002725
03:18:16.600 --> 03:18:18.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama doon yung compute.

asr-002726
03:18:18.500 --> 03:18:19.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nagtataka ako

asr-002727
03:18:19.480 --> 03:18:22.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung nasaan yung compute.

asr-002728
03:18:22.580 --> 03:18:23.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O baka naman,

asr-002729
03:18:23.220 --> 03:18:23.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: empty lang to.

asr-002730
03:18:24.940 --> 03:18:25.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nag-rent kayo,

asr-002731
03:18:26.120 --> 03:18:27.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may binabayarang kontrata,

asr-002732
03:18:27.860 --> 03:18:29.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nire-renew every three months,

asr-002733
03:18:29.260 --> 03:18:29.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero hindi naman

asr-002734
03:18:29.900 --> 03:18:30.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pala nagagamit

asr-002735
03:18:30.740 --> 03:18:31.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as data center.

asr-002736
03:18:32.440 --> 03:18:32.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun ba?

asr-002737
03:18:35.460 --> 03:18:36.840
Rep. Brian Poe: To be fair,

asr-002738
03:18:37.000 --> 03:18:38.080
Rep. Brian Poe: these data centers

asr-002739
03:18:38.080 --> 03:18:39.220
Rep. Brian Poe: are really used.

asr-002740
03:18:39.700 --> 03:18:40.580
Rep. Brian Poe: Even if

asr-002741
03:18:40.580 --> 03:18:42.360
Rep. Brian Poe: some of them

asr-002742
03:18:42.360 --> 03:18:43.880
Rep. Brian Poe: have the computation services,

asr-002743
03:18:44.220 --> 03:18:45.060
Rep. Brian Poe: the others do not.

asr-002744
03:18:45.160 --> 03:18:46.520
Rep. Brian Poe: And they're really just a space

asr-002745
03:18:46.520 --> 03:18:48.660
Rep. Brian Poe: wherein servers can be placed

asr-002746
03:18:48.660 --> 03:18:50.480
Rep. Brian Poe: and can be functional.

asr-002747
03:18:51.480 --> 03:18:53.660
Rep. Brian Poe: But they are 100% used

asr-002748
03:18:53.660 --> 03:18:55.580
Rep. Brian Poe: by the different 34 agencies.

asr-002749
03:18:56.620 --> 03:18:56.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright.

asr-002750
03:18:57.060 --> 03:18:57.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, anyway,

asr-002751
03:18:57.460 --> 03:18:58.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nire-raise natin yung question na yun.

asr-002752
03:18:59.900 --> 03:19:02.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: My last set of questions.

asr-002753
03:19:02.840 --> 03:19:04.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi, binabantayan na ako

asr-002754
03:19:04.280 --> 03:19:06.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ni majority leader dito eh.

asr-002755
03:19:07.640 --> 03:19:10.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung cloud services.

asr-002756
03:19:10.720 --> 03:19:12.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malaking bahagi talaga

asr-002757
03:19:12.140 --> 03:19:12.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung budget,

asr-002758
03:19:12.880 --> 03:19:13.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: actually,

asr-002759
03:19:13.380 --> 03:19:14.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: procurement of cloud services.

asr-002760
03:19:18.240 --> 03:19:20.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, our observation there is,

asr-002761
03:19:20.520 --> 03:19:20.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: let's see,

asr-002762
03:19:24.720 --> 03:19:25.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is that

asr-002763
03:19:25.320 --> 03:19:29.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there are 12

asr-002764
03:19:29.400 --> 03:19:30.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: contracts for,

asr-002765
03:19:30.860 --> 03:19:31.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if I'm not mistaken,

asr-002766
03:19:33.220 --> 03:19:33.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay,

asr-002767
03:19:33.780 --> 03:19:34.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 12 contracts

asr-002768
03:19:34.780 --> 03:19:37.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for procurement of

asr-002769
03:19:37.380 --> 03:19:38.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cloud services,

asr-002770
03:19:39.160 --> 03:19:40.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but they make up

asr-002771
03:19:40.380 --> 03:19:41.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 49.3%

asr-002772
03:19:41.940 --> 03:19:43.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the total

asr-002773
03:19:43.300 --> 03:19:45.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget,

asr-002774
03:19:45.640 --> 03:19:47.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2.45 billion

asr-002775
03:19:47.340 --> 03:19:49.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: out of the more than 4 billion

asr-002776
03:19:49.800 --> 03:19:52.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung procurement of cloud services.

asr-002777
03:19:52.860 --> 03:19:54.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, from 2016

asr-002778
03:19:54.200 --> 03:19:56.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to 2025.

asr-002779
03:19:56.380 --> 03:19:56.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 25.

asr-002780
03:19:57.060 --> 03:19:57.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At 25.

asr-002781
03:19:57.620 --> 03:19:57.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-002782
03:19:59.400 --> 03:20:01.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang notable dito,

asr-002783
03:20:02.120 --> 03:20:03.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mostly,

asr-002784
03:20:03.600 --> 03:20:03.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may,

asr-002785
03:20:03.780 --> 03:20:04.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may,

asr-002786
03:20:04.560 --> 03:20:06.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in some of the titles,

asr-002787
03:20:06.460 --> 03:20:07.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binabanggit,

asr-002788
03:20:07.200 --> 03:20:07.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AWS,

asr-002789
03:20:09.300 --> 03:20:10.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Google Cloud,

asr-002790
03:20:10.460 --> 03:20:10.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Google,

asr-002791
03:20:11.020 --> 03:20:12.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Google Cloud Platform,

asr-002792
03:20:13.620 --> 03:20:14.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero yung iba,

asr-002793
03:20:16.240 --> 03:20:20.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang description is

asr-002794
03:20:20.660 --> 03:20:22.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Government Common Platform.

asr-002795
03:20:22.840 --> 03:20:23.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, GCP.

asr-002796
03:20:24.020 --> 03:20:24.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kala ko nung una,

asr-002797
03:20:24.700 --> 03:20:25.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Google Cloud Platform.

asr-002798
03:20:25.900 --> 03:20:26.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung pala,

asr-002799
03:20:26.300 --> 03:20:28.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Government Common Platform.

asr-002800
03:20:28.780 --> 03:20:29.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002801
03:20:29.400 --> 03:20:30.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well,

asr-002802
03:20:31.820 --> 03:20:33.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang tanong really is,

asr-002803
03:20:34.540 --> 03:20:36.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit parang may third party?

asr-002804
03:20:37.480 --> 03:20:38.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, magpo-procure

asr-002805
03:20:38.520 --> 03:20:39.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Google services,

asr-002806
03:20:40.100 --> 03:20:41.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero hindi Google

asr-002807
03:20:41.240 --> 03:20:42.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang kakontrata.

asr-002808
03:20:42.760 --> 03:20:44.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There's a third party

asr-002809
03:20:44.140 --> 03:20:45.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: vendor.

asr-002810
03:20:47.040 --> 03:20:47.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bakit po ganun?

asr-002811
03:20:52.960 --> 03:20:54.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker,

asr-002812
03:20:54.260 --> 03:20:54.800
Rep. Brian Poe: this is actually...

asr-002813
03:20:54.800 --> 03:20:55.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, third party vendors,

asr-002814
03:20:55.880 --> 03:20:56.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if I may mention,

asr-002815
03:20:56.740 --> 03:20:57.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for example,

asr-002816
03:20:57.440 --> 03:20:58.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Vival Group,

asr-002817
03:20:58.160 --> 03:20:59.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: plus

asr-002818
03:20:59.420 --> 03:21:01.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PhilFox 2016

asr-002819
03:21:01.520 --> 03:21:04.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for a contract

asr-002820
03:21:04.460 --> 03:21:06.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: worth 372 million,

asr-002821
03:21:07.360 --> 03:21:09.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MicroD International,

asr-002822
03:21:10.820 --> 03:21:12.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maroon Studios,

asr-002823
03:21:13.120 --> 03:21:15.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Crayon Software Experts,

asr-002824
03:21:16.120 --> 03:21:17.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Multicore Technology,

asr-002825
03:21:18.560 --> 03:21:19.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: then you also have

asr-002826
03:21:19.280 --> 03:21:20.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: EPLDT,

asr-002827
03:21:21.200 --> 03:21:22.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on.

asr-002828
03:21:22.700 --> 03:21:23.880
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes, Madam Speaker,

asr-002829
03:21:24.160 --> 03:21:26.240
Rep. Brian Poe: if I may clarify,

asr-002830
03:21:26.500 --> 03:21:26.720
Rep. Brian Poe: actually,

asr-002831
03:21:26.720 --> 03:21:27.800
Rep. Brian Poe: this is a critical component,

asr-002832
03:21:28.160 --> 03:21:29.640
Rep. Brian Poe: of national security

asr-002833
03:21:29.640 --> 03:21:30.080
Rep. Brian Poe: because

asr-002834
03:21:30.080 --> 03:21:31.820
Rep. Brian Poe: these are the companies

asr-002835
03:21:31.820 --> 03:21:33.340
Rep. Brian Poe: that we can chase down.

asr-002836
03:21:33.860 --> 03:21:35.060
Rep. Brian Poe: These are the local counterparts

asr-002837
03:21:35.060 --> 03:21:36.340
Rep. Brian Poe: that are contracting

asr-002838
03:21:36.340 --> 03:21:38.020
Rep. Brian Poe: the international services.

asr-002839
03:21:38.500 --> 03:21:39.960
Rep. Brian Poe: So, if there is a breach of data,

asr-002840
03:21:40.140 --> 03:21:40.880
Rep. Brian Poe: if there is anything

asr-002841
03:21:40.880 --> 03:21:41.820
Rep. Brian Poe: that they need to be held

asr-002842
03:21:41.820 --> 03:21:42.580
Rep. Brian Poe: accountable for,

asr-002843
03:21:42.860 --> 03:21:44.040
Rep. Brian Poe: it's these local companies

asr-002844
03:21:44.040 --> 03:21:44.980
Rep. Brian Poe: that we hold accountable.

asr-002845
03:21:45.540 --> 03:21:46.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, so yun ang explanation.

asr-002846
03:21:47.480 --> 03:21:49.080
Rep. Brian Poe: That's the reason why.

asr-002847
03:21:49.200 --> 03:21:50.320
Rep. Brian Poe: Because we cannot directly

asr-002848
03:21:50.320 --> 03:21:51.820
Rep. Brian Poe: give these contracts

asr-002849
03:21:51.820 --> 03:21:53.440
Rep. Brian Poe: to these international entities.

asr-002850
03:21:53.720 --> 03:21:54.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However,

asr-002851
03:21:55.460 --> 03:21:56.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in 2022,

asr-002852
03:21:56.320 --> 03:21:57.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there are subscribes,

asr-002853
03:21:58.160 --> 03:22:00.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subscription, maintenance,

asr-002854
03:22:00.160 --> 03:22:02.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: existing cloud infra

asr-002855
03:22:02.160 --> 03:22:07.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for Amazon Web Services

asr-002856
03:22:07.260 --> 03:22:10.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: worth 165 million,

asr-002857
03:22:11.880 --> 03:22:13.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and it's directly with Amazon.

asr-002858
03:22:14.960 --> 03:22:15.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bakit ganun?

asr-002859
03:22:15.840 --> 03:22:17.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede naman pala diretsa eh.

asr-002860
03:22:17.040 --> 03:22:17.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002861
03:22:28.160 --> 03:22:31.260
Rep. Brian Poe: So, that's correct.

asr-002862
03:22:31.620 --> 03:22:33.540
Rep. Brian Poe: There was direct contracting before,

asr-002863
03:22:34.040 --> 03:22:36.380
Rep. Brian Poe: but that served as the precursor

asr-002864
03:22:36.380 --> 03:22:37.240
Rep. Brian Poe: for our current system

asr-002865
03:22:37.240 --> 03:22:39.020
Rep. Brian Poe: because nagkaroon po

asr-002866
03:22:39.020 --> 03:22:40.080
Rep. Brian Poe: ng legal issue.

asr-002867
03:22:41.020 --> 03:22:42.960
Rep. Brian Poe: So, from that point on,

asr-002868
03:22:43.260 --> 03:22:45.120
Rep. Brian Poe: it became localized.

asr-002869
03:22:46.420 --> 03:22:46.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright.

asr-002870
03:22:46.660 --> 03:22:48.240
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our

asr-002871
03:22:48.240 --> 03:22:50.420
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: distinguished colleague.

asr-002872
03:22:50.420 --> 03:22:51.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I'm winding up, Madam Speaker.

asr-002873
03:22:51.940 --> 03:22:52.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you very much.

asr-002874
03:22:52.400 --> 03:22:53.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Patapos natanong ko na rin

asr-002875
03:22:53.460 --> 03:22:54.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung last question dito.

asr-002876
03:22:55.540 --> 03:22:55.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002877
03:22:55.840 --> 03:22:57.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, okay.

asr-002878
03:22:58.160 --> 03:22:59.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well,

asr-002879
03:23:00.300 --> 03:23:03.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may mga ilang

asr-002880
03:23:03.300 --> 03:23:07.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: questions na naliwanagan tayo.

asr-002881
03:23:08.040 --> 03:23:09.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example,

asr-002882
03:23:09.580 --> 03:23:11.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the role of third-party vendors.

asr-002883
03:23:12.720 --> 03:23:13.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Apparently,

asr-002884
03:23:14.200 --> 03:23:16.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's mainly

asr-002885
03:23:16.900 --> 03:23:18.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: jurisdictional issue.

asr-002886
03:23:18.640 --> 03:23:19.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang ganun.

asr-002887
03:23:19.960 --> 03:23:20.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002888
03:23:20.820 --> 03:23:22.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero nakita rin natin

asr-002889
03:23:22.200 --> 03:23:25.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na may mga tanong pa rin.

asr-002890
03:23:25.560 --> 03:23:26.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Like, you know,

asr-002891
03:23:26.340 --> 03:23:27.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there's a large spend,

asr-002892
03:23:28.160 --> 03:23:30.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: large spending for

asr-002893
03:23:30.280 --> 03:23:31.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: co-location services.

asr-002894
03:23:33.040 --> 03:23:34.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi directly nasagot

asr-002895
03:23:34.600 --> 03:23:35.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DICT

asr-002896
03:23:35.460 --> 03:23:37.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung paano

asr-002897
03:23:37.100 --> 03:23:38.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o sino ang gumagamit nito.

asr-002898
03:23:39.060 --> 03:23:39.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Apparently, hindi sila.

asr-002899
03:23:40.600 --> 03:23:40.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002900
03:23:41.220 --> 03:23:41.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibang ahensya.

asr-002901
03:23:45.140 --> 03:23:46.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, Madam Speaker,

asr-002902
03:23:47.300 --> 03:23:48.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with that,

asr-002903
03:23:48.620 --> 03:23:50.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I end my interpellation.

asr-002904
03:23:50.160 --> 03:23:50.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you.

asr-002905
03:23:50.880 --> 03:23:51.680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much,

asr-002906
03:23:51.780 --> 03:23:52.460
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-002907
03:23:53.560 --> 03:23:54.280
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker,

asr-002908
03:23:55.500 --> 03:23:57.180
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: also to interpellate

asr-002909
03:23:57.180 --> 03:23:57.940
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: on the proposed budget,

asr-002910
03:23:58.160 --> 03:24:01.280
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: is the representative

asr-002911
03:24:01.280 --> 03:24:05.460
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: of Gabriela Women's Party.

asr-002912
03:24:06.720 --> 03:24:08.360
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: And I therefore move

asr-002913
03:24:08.360 --> 03:24:10.620
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: that we recognize

asr-002914
03:24:10.620 --> 03:24:14.320
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Representative Sarah Jane Elago.

asr-002915
03:24:14.700 --> 03:24:15.540
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Elago

asr-002916
03:24:15.540 --> 03:24:17.360
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is recognized for interpellation.

asr-002917
03:24:19.860 --> 03:24:21.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

asr-002918
03:24:22.480 --> 03:24:24.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Just to follow on the

asr-002919
03:24:24.420 --> 03:24:26.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: information provided

asr-002920
03:24:26.160 --> 03:24:27.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: by the agency

asr-002921
03:24:27.220 --> 03:24:28.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on the information

asr-002922
03:24:28.000 --> 03:24:29.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on its measures

asr-002923
03:24:29.660 --> 03:24:31.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to prevent and minimize

asr-002924
03:24:31.240 --> 03:24:32.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: online fraud and scams

asr-002925
03:24:32.780 --> 03:24:34.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and mitigate their impact

asr-002926
03:24:34.600 --> 03:24:35.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on the public.

asr-002927
03:24:36.720 --> 03:24:38.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: It reported that

asr-002928
03:24:38.720 --> 03:24:40.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: it has proactive

asr-002929
03:24:40.760 --> 03:24:42.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: public awareness

asr-002930
03:24:42.300 --> 03:24:44.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and education efforts,

asr-002931
03:24:45.160 --> 03:24:45.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: particularly

asr-002932
03:24:45.660 --> 03:24:47.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on

asr-002933
03:24:47.420 --> 03:24:50.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: undertaking

asr-002934
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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: this

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03:24:51.020 --> 03:24:53.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: efforts to raise awareness

asr-002936
03:24:53.500 --> 03:24:54.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: through its official

asr-002937
03:24:54.740 --> 03:24:56.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: communication channels.

asr-002938
03:24:56.460 --> 03:24:57.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know, Madam Speaker,

asr-002939
03:24:58.000 --> 03:25:00.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: what these

asr-002940
03:25:00.180 --> 03:25:02.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: official communication channels are?

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03:25:14.760 --> 03:25:15.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you.

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03:25:28.000 --> 03:25:35.000
Rep. Brian Poe: So we have the 1326 hotline.

asr-002943
03:25:35.000 --> 03:25:38.680
Rep. Brian Poe: We also have a 24-7 action center

asr-002944
03:25:38.680 --> 03:25:40.000
Rep. Brian Poe: in Studio 7

asr-002945
03:25:40.000 --> 03:25:43.120
Rep. Brian Poe: at the CICC-DICT office.

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03:25:44.320 --> 03:25:45.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker,

asr-002947
03:25:45.740 --> 03:25:48.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nais po sana nating malaman

asr-002948
03:25:48.300 --> 03:25:49.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa particular

asr-002949
03:25:49.600 --> 03:25:51.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay kung saan po lumalabas

asr-002950
03:25:51.240 --> 03:25:52.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: halimbawa yung

asr-002951
03:25:52.440 --> 03:25:53.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: impormasyon

asr-002952
03:25:53.940 --> 03:25:55.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano, halimbawa,

asr-002953
03:25:56.080 --> 03:25:56.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magsusumbong,

asr-002954
03:25:57.140 --> 03:25:57.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano magre-recognize,

asr-002955
03:25:58.000 --> 03:25:58.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano magreklamo,

asr-002956
03:25:59.020 --> 03:26:00.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paano ba yung proseso.

asr-002957
03:26:02.140 --> 03:26:04.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yun po ay kasama sa report

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03:26:04.240 --> 03:26:07.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng CICC.

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03:26:07.440 --> 03:26:08.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nabanggit dito

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03:26:08.300 --> 03:26:10.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung tungkol sa hotline 1326

asr-002961
03:26:10.860 --> 03:26:14.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at tungkol sa

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03:26:14.300 --> 03:26:15.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: scam safe

asr-002963
03:26:15.080 --> 03:26:17.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na online scam

asr-002964
03:26:17.940 --> 03:26:19.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: verification platform.

asr-002965
03:26:20.080 --> 03:26:22.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero ang nais ko pong malaman,

asr-002966
03:26:22.240 --> 03:26:24.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paano natin mas ipinapaalam po

asr-002967
03:26:24.600 --> 03:26:25.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa publiko

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03:26:25.500 --> 03:26:27.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na meron tayong hotline 1326

asr-002969
03:26:28.000 --> 03:26:29.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at meron tayong

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03:26:29.920 --> 03:26:31.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: scam safe platform?

asr-002971
03:26:31.880 --> 03:26:34.120
Rep. Brian Poe: Well, every Thursday at 10am

asr-002972
03:26:34.120 --> 03:26:35.860
Rep. Brian Poe: it's on RTV.

asr-002973
03:26:37.120 --> 03:26:38.380
Rep. Brian Poe: There's also on

asr-002974
03:26:38.380 --> 03:26:39.840
Rep. Brian Poe: their social media pages

asr-002975
03:26:39.840 --> 03:26:42.240
Rep. Brian Poe: and there's continuous

asr-002976
03:26:42.240 --> 03:26:44.040
Rep. Brian Poe: promotion across various news

asr-002977
03:26:44.040 --> 03:26:44.660
Rep. Brian Poe: outlets.

asr-002978
03:26:45.840 --> 03:26:48.360
Rep. Brian Poe: But I guess para sa mga kababayan natin

asr-002979
03:26:48.360 --> 03:26:49.240
Rep. Brian Poe: para mas mabidis,

asr-002980
03:26:49.820 --> 03:26:52.200
Rep. Brian Poe: sockment talaga yung pinag-amabidis.

asr-002981
03:26:52.580 --> 03:26:54.100
Rep. Brian Poe: Check lang yung CICC page.

asr-002982
03:26:55.140 --> 03:26:57.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: I ask this, Madam Speaker,

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03:26:58.000 --> 03:26:59.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: I'm concerned that

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03:26:59.800 --> 03:27:02.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: as shared by the

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03:27:02.580 --> 03:27:03.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: distinguished sponsor,

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03:27:04.280 --> 03:27:05.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the current,

asr-002988
03:27:06.800 --> 03:27:08.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the existing efforts

asr-002989
03:27:08.500 --> 03:27:09.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to raise awareness

asr-002990
03:27:09.940 --> 03:27:11.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: are mostly done online

asr-002991
03:27:11.580 --> 03:27:13.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: through its internet

asr-002992
03:27:13.960 --> 03:27:16.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and other social media

asr-002993
03:27:16.380 --> 03:27:18.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: channels

asr-002994
03:27:18.220 --> 03:27:19.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and spaces.

asr-002995
03:27:20.640 --> 03:27:21.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakahalaga po nito

asr-002996
03:27:21.640 --> 03:27:23.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at tama po ang ating sponsor

asr-002997
03:27:23.840 --> 03:27:25.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na maraming gumagamit,

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03:27:25.700 --> 03:27:27.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mabilis rin at mura.

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03:27:28.000 --> 03:27:29.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit, sa tingin ko,

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03:27:29.500 --> 03:27:31.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kinakailangan din na meron tayong

asr-003001
03:27:31.800 --> 03:27:34.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga offline means

asr-003002
03:27:34.440 --> 03:27:35.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po maabot

asr-003003
03:27:35.820 --> 03:27:37.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga kababayan

asr-003004
03:27:37.120 --> 03:27:39.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga pampublikong espasyo.

asr-003005
03:27:40.160 --> 03:27:41.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nais ko rin po sanang malaman

asr-003006
03:27:41.800 --> 03:27:43.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at maibahagi at sa susunod

asr-003007
03:27:43.780 --> 03:27:46.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maiulat sa ating kapulungan

asr-003008
03:27:46.220 --> 03:27:48.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pagkakaroon din ng mga

asr-003009
03:27:48.300 --> 03:27:50.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: partnerships sa ating

asr-003010
03:27:50.200 --> 03:27:51.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: local government units,

asr-003011
03:27:51.980 --> 03:27:53.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga barangay,

asr-003012
03:27:53.180 --> 03:27:54.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa civil society,

asr-003013
03:27:55.240 --> 03:27:56.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga people's organizations,

asr-003014
03:27:57.480 --> 03:27:57.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa academia,

asr-003015
03:27:58.000 --> 03:28:00.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak na talagang

asr-003016
03:28:00.040 --> 03:28:02.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa panahon ngayon na napakalaganap

asr-003017
03:28:02.480 --> 03:28:04.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng iba't ibang scam,

asr-003018
03:28:04.240 --> 03:28:05.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng iba't ibang panluloko

asr-003019
03:28:05.560 --> 03:28:07.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga kababayan,

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03:28:07.920 --> 03:28:09.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: alam ng ating

asr-003021
03:28:09.760 --> 03:28:11.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: taong bayan

asr-003022
03:28:11.880 --> 03:28:13.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano sila

asr-003023
03:28:13.100 --> 03:28:16.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pag-uulat. Alam ng taong bayan

asr-003024
03:28:16.060 --> 03:28:17.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano nila mahahabol

asr-003025
03:28:17.560 --> 03:28:19.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung sino ba yung mga perpetrators

asr-003026
03:28:19.880 --> 03:28:21.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ganitong mga scam operations

asr-003027
03:28:21.900 --> 03:28:24.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at alam ng taong bayan

asr-003028
03:28:24.520 --> 03:28:26.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kapag nagsumbong sila

asr-003029
03:28:26.840 --> 03:28:27.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kapag nagsumbong

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03:28:28.000 --> 03:28:30.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: reklamo sila, ay merong

asr-003031
03:28:30.140 --> 03:28:32.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mapapanagot ang ating mga batas.

asr-003032
03:28:33.120 --> 03:28:34.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon po ba, magkano po

asr-003033
03:28:34.460 --> 03:28:36.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang nakalaan na pondo para dito?

asr-003034
03:28:44.360 --> 03:28:46.860
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I am sorry to report

asr-003035
03:28:46.860 --> 03:28:48.300
Rep. Brian Poe: that in the current NEP,

asr-003036
03:28:48.420 --> 03:28:50.520
Rep. Brian Poe: there's zero allocation for information

asr-003037
03:28:50.520 --> 03:28:52.740
Rep. Brian Poe: campaigns for the CICC

asr-003038
03:28:52.740 --> 03:28:54.080
Rep. Brian Poe: with regards to this matter.

asr-003039
03:28:55.580 --> 03:28:56.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Zero budget.

asr-003040
03:28:56.720 --> 03:28:57.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya ho,

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03:28:58.000 --> 03:29:01.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating representasyon kami po

asr-003042
03:29:01.160 --> 03:29:03.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mahitingi ng detalye

asr-003043
03:29:03.000 --> 03:29:05.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng specific

asr-003044
03:29:05.820 --> 03:29:06.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na projects

asr-003045
03:29:06.900 --> 03:29:09.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung merong proposed na line item

asr-003046
03:29:09.300 --> 03:29:11.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak na

asr-003047
03:29:11.360 --> 03:29:12.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tuloy-tuloy ang ating

asr-003048
03:29:12.920 --> 03:29:15.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: public information and education

asr-003049
03:29:15.300 --> 03:29:16.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: efforts

asr-003050
03:29:16.580 --> 03:29:18.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: online at offline.

asr-003051
03:29:18.820 --> 03:29:21.560
Rep. Brian Poe: Opo. Pero, Madam Speaker,

asr-003052
03:29:22.340 --> 03:29:23.420
Rep. Brian Poe: just to highlight

asr-003053
03:29:23.420 --> 03:29:25.140
Rep. Brian Poe: the efforts of the DICT,

asr-003054
03:29:25.140 --> 03:29:27.140
Rep. Brian Poe: kahit limitado po ang pondo ng DICT

asr-003055
03:29:28.000 --> 03:29:29.580
Rep. Brian Poe: sa information campaigns po nila,

asr-003056
03:29:30.080 --> 03:29:32.060
Rep. Brian Poe: they have the partnership with RTV

asr-003057
03:29:32.060 --> 03:29:33.640
Rep. Brian Poe: which is offline.

asr-003058
03:29:34.220 --> 03:29:35.860
Rep. Brian Poe: Of course, as mentioned,

asr-003059
03:29:36.520 --> 03:29:38.900
Rep. Brian Poe: there are the online social media

asr-003060
03:29:38.900 --> 03:29:40.300
Rep. Brian Poe: which is basically

asr-003061
03:29:40.300 --> 03:29:42.960
Rep. Brian Poe: in-house. So, there's no cost

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03:29:42.960 --> 03:29:44.300
Rep. Brian Poe: on that. But also,

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Rep. Brian Poe: my colleagues here from DICT

asr-003064
03:29:47.040 --> 03:29:48.620
Rep. Brian Poe: are saying that they have

asr-003065
03:29:48.620 --> 03:29:50.260
Rep. Brian Poe: roadshows and partnerships

asr-003066
03:29:50.260 --> 03:29:52.040
Rep. Brian Poe: with the LGUs

asr-003067
03:29:52.040 --> 03:29:54.340
Rep. Brian Poe: to push information

asr-003068
03:29:54.340 --> 03:29:56.580
Rep. Brian Poe: across the 16 different regions.

asr-003069
03:29:57.020 --> 03:29:57.920
Rep. Brian Poe: So, meron po,

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Rep. Brian Poe: kahit wala namang pondo,

asr-003077
03:30:00.000 --> 03:30:10.460
Rep. Brian Poe: naghahanap ng paraan po ang DICT para sa kanilang information campaigns to protect from online sexual abuse and misinformation and scams.

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03:30:11.940 --> 03:30:20.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat. At Madam Speaker, natanong ko ito dahil kamakailan lang maraming lumabas na mga exclusive reports

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa mas matinding, mas laganap, mas marami ng mga kaso ng technology-facilitated gender-based violence.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isa na yung exclusive report mula sa Rappler tungkol sa 430,000 plus member forum na nagsistream ng mga privado at intimate moments ng mga kababaihan.

asr-003081
03:30:44.100 --> 03:30:54.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandyan din po ang lumabas na ulat mula sa CNN tungkol sa emergence ng mga global rape academy.

asr-003082
03:30:55.480 --> 03:30:58.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakahirap pong sabihin kasi hindi po katanggap.

asr-003083
03:30:58.420 --> 03:31:13.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandyan din po ang mga espasyo, mga Philippine online forum na nagbibigay ng rewards sa submission ng mga non-consensual intimate content.

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03:31:14.920 --> 03:31:21.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa mga platforms na namag-get yung kanina, sa ating hotline, sa ating online platforms,

asr-003085
03:31:21.180 --> 03:31:26.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ating po bang mga first responders, mga tumatanggap ng tawag,

asr-003086
03:31:28.420 --> 03:31:42.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sumailalim sa isang gender sensitivity training, first aid responders training para po sa pagtanggap ng ganitong tipo ng mga kaso na may kinalaman sa gender-based violence.

asr-003087
03:31:53.800 --> 03:31:58.000
Rep. Brian Poe: So legitimate naman talaga po yung concern ng colleague po natin.

asr-003088
03:31:58.420 --> 03:32:04.480
Rep. Brian Poe: Dapat may tamang training po ang ating first responders.

asr-003089
03:32:04.940 --> 03:32:11.760
Rep. Brian Poe: The CWC is in partnership with the CICC in providing our first responders with the proper training.

asr-003090
03:32:13.440 --> 03:32:14.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat po.

asr-003091
03:32:14.360 --> 03:32:22.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bukod po sa Council for the Welfare of Children para sa pagtitiyak na child-friendly ang ating pag-usap,

asr-003092
03:32:22.720 --> 03:32:27.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sensitive sa mga needs ng ating mga bata at ng mga kabataan,

asr-003093
03:32:28.420 --> 03:32:30.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: halimbawa sa Philippine Commission on Women,

asr-003094
03:32:30.840 --> 03:32:39.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung partnership natin para sa pagtitiyak na hindi lang gender-sensitive pero gender-affirmative din.

asr-003095
03:32:39.600 --> 03:32:44.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung pagtitiyak natin na lahat na hindi lang naman po kababaihan,

asr-003096
03:32:44.560 --> 03:32:47.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pinakamarami pa rin sa mga kababaihan, pinakamadalas,

asr-003097
03:32:47.860 --> 03:32:56.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero maaari din pong nagiging target ng abuse ang men, boys, at gender-diverse people.

asr-003098
03:32:56.300 --> 03:32:57.600
Rep. Brian Poe: Magandang suggestion.

asr-003099
03:32:58.420 --> 03:33:00.520
Rep. Brian Poe: Magandang suggestion po yan, Madam Speaker.

asr-003100
03:33:01.080 --> 03:33:07.180
Rep. Brian Poe: May commitment po ako galing sa CICC na agad-agad they will reach out to the Commission on Women

asr-003101
03:33:07.180 --> 03:33:10.680
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to get their input as well regarding this matter.

asr-003102
03:33:11.980 --> 03:33:12.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat po.

asr-003103
03:33:13.340 --> 03:33:20.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At meron na tayong mga civil society organizations na nagsisimula na mag-develop ng modules

asr-003104
03:33:20.660 --> 03:33:25.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po pakipagtulungan sa paglaban sa technology-facilitated gender-based violence.

asr-003105
03:33:25.920 --> 03:33:27.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At aasahan po natin.

asr-003106
03:33:27.420 --> 03:33:34.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sana po for 2027, meron din mga pondo ang DICT, ang National Privacy Commission

asr-003107
03:33:34.740 --> 03:33:43.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para mapagyaman ang mga tulungan na ito at lahat tayo ay magsama-sama sa paglaban sa TFGBV.

asr-003108
03:33:44.360 --> 03:33:52.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, I'd like to ask about the role of the DICT as well as the National Privacy Commission

asr-003109
03:33:52.580 --> 03:33:56.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on the recent adoption of the International...

asr-003110
03:33:57.420 --> 03:34:00.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: International Labor Organization Convention No. 193.

asr-003111
03:34:01.540 --> 03:34:10.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: This is the very first international labor standard created specifically for digital platform workers

asr-003112
03:34:10.180 --> 03:34:16.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: such as those working in the gig economy, delivery and online application workers.

asr-003113
03:34:16.740 --> 03:34:26.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: This is particularly relevant for DICC, for example, because it covers the protection,

asr-003114
03:34:27.420 --> 03:34:36.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on algorithmic transparency and management, requiring online platforms to inform workers

asr-003115
03:34:36.300 --> 03:34:41.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and their representatives about automated monitoring and evaluation systems

asr-003116
03:34:41.820 --> 03:34:49.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and to provide safeguards against unlawful or discriminatory suspension, deactivation or termination.

asr-003117
03:34:49.000 --> 03:34:57.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know, Madam Speaker, if the DICC or the NPC already have their position on this?

asr-003118
03:34:57.420 --> 03:35:05.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And will the departments, will the commissions actively campaign for its ratification here in the Philippines,

asr-003119
03:35:05.760 --> 03:35:12.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: considering that we have a considerable number of workforce working in the ICT-related sector?

asr-003120
03:35:13.980 --> 03:35:20.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: And how does the ICT and the commissions here intend to consult their stakeholders

asr-003121
03:35:20.720 --> 03:35:26.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: from the platform managers, administrators, owners, to the workers?

asr-003122
03:35:27.420 --> 03:35:32.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May kasama po ba tayong pondo para matiyak na broad, wide,

asr-003123
03:35:33.300 --> 03:35:41.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga magiging konsultasyon natin sa stakeholders para sa ILO Convention No. 193?

asr-003124
03:35:57.420 --> 03:36:11.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, nabanggit ko po dito ang NPC dahil isa din sa mga guarantees ng convention na ito,

asr-003125
03:36:11.980 --> 03:36:13.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang data protection and privacy.

asr-003126
03:36:14.340 --> 03:36:20.660
Rep. Brian Poe: Unfortunately, Madam Speaker, sa ngayon wala pa silang policy regarding this matter

asr-003127
03:36:20.660 --> 03:36:26.560
Rep. Brian Poe: at wala po silang pondo to support furthering this.

asr-003128
03:36:26.560 --> 03:36:27.100
Rep. Brian Poe: However,

asr-003129
03:36:27.420 --> 03:36:29.580
Rep. Brian Poe: in terms of stakeholder consultation,

asr-003130
03:36:30.080 --> 03:36:35.520
Rep. Brian Poe: I have confirmation that they do have stakeholder consultations as well as capacity building.

asr-003131
03:36:36.180 --> 03:36:41.960
Rep. Brian Poe: But for this specific matter, wala pa po silang internal policy.

asr-003132
03:36:42.560 --> 03:36:47.640
Rep. Brian Poe: But maybe I can ask my colleague and our other colleagues in the minority

asr-003133
03:36:47.640 --> 03:36:51.900
Rep. Brian Poe: for their position regarding this to help inform the agency.

asr-003134
03:36:54.180 --> 03:36:57.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, will the distinguished sponsor, will the department,

asr-003135
03:36:57.420 --> 03:37:04.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: commit to a study this particular convention and sit not only with these representatives

asr-003136
03:37:04.080 --> 03:37:11.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: but stakeholders from workers' groups who are also calling for algorithmic transparency?

asr-003137
03:37:12.980 --> 03:37:19.620
Rep. Brian Poe: There is a commitment from the DICT and its attached agency to conduct the necessary study for this.

asr-003138
03:37:20.240 --> 03:37:23.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

asr-003139
03:37:23.700 --> 03:37:24.260
Rep. Brian Poe: Maraming salamat po.

asr-003140
03:37:24.260 --> 03:37:24.680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader?

asr-003142
03:37:26.780 --> 03:37:27.380
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Maraming salamat.

asr-003143
03:37:27.380 --> 03:37:38.860
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker, last to interpellate on the proposed budget is Philreka Party-list representative.

asr-003144
03:37:40.060 --> 03:37:45.720
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: I therefore move that we recognize Congressman Presley De Jesus.

asr-003145
03:37:46.600 --> 03:37:50.100
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The distinguished gentleman representing Philreka Party-list,

asr-003146
03:37:50.500 --> 03:37:54.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Honorable Presley De Jesus, is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

asr-003148
03:37:57.380 --> 03:38:00.200
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor.

asr-003149
03:38:03.760 --> 03:38:07.520
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: After the Ateneo de Zamboanga school shooting,

asr-003150
03:38:08.440 --> 03:38:17.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: DICT and CICC publicly raised the possibility of blocking Facebook as a last resort

asr-003151
03:38:17.300 --> 03:38:23.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: over delayed takedowns of violent content, child safety concerns, and misinformation.

asr-003152
03:38:24.100 --> 03:38:26.880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Malakanyang later said there is no ban for now,

asr-003153
03:38:27.380 --> 03:38:28.320
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and that the government is cooperating.

asr-003154
03:38:28.980 --> 03:38:30.740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And talks were held in Singapore.

asr-003155
03:38:32.200 --> 03:38:35.260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What really transpired in Singapore?

asr-003156
03:38:35.760 --> 03:38:39.760
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Nagkaroon ko ba ng usapan po nung pumunta po kayo?

asr-003157
03:38:39.840 --> 03:38:42.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because I remember during committee hearing, Madam Chair,

asr-003158
03:38:42.800 --> 03:38:47.440
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nabanggit na [unclear] Secretary, nagkaroon daw ng dialogue sa Singapore.

asr-003159
03:38:47.820 --> 03:38:51.360
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can you update us what transpired on that said meeting?

asr-003160
03:38:51.460 --> 03:38:57.360
Rep. Brian Poe: Yes. Madam Secretary, if I'm not mistaken, members of the DICT and CICC,

asr-003161
03:38:57.380 --> 03:39:04.960
Rep. Brian Poe: flew to Singapore to consult and explain the situation here in the Philippines to META.

asr-003162
03:39:05.580 --> 03:39:13.700
Rep. Brian Poe: And I believe they're working towards an MOU, an MOA, rather, with META

asr-003163
03:39:13.700 --> 03:39:19.300
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to address the growing concerns of influence on minors here in the Philippines,

asr-003164
03:39:19.600 --> 03:39:24.740
Rep. Brian Poe: among other concerns that are happening within the META platform, Madam Speaker.

asr-003165
03:39:24.740 --> 03:39:26.880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you.

asr-003166
03:39:27.380 --> 03:39:31.920
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

asr-003167
03:39:32.800 --> 03:39:41.020
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: one of the primary mandates of the DICT is the security of critical ICT infrastructure,

asr-003168
03:39:41.540 --> 03:39:46.840
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: which includes the information assets of government, individuals, and businesses,

asr-003169
03:39:47.460 --> 03:39:53.120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as well as the protection of consumers' privacy, security, and confidentiality.

asr-003170
03:39:53.120 --> 03:39:57.280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My question will focus on DICT's follow-through,

asr-003171
03:39:57.380 --> 03:39:58.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as well as the security of the META platform.

asr-003172
03:39:58.620 --> 03:39:58.980
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The DICT also announced an agreement with META on online scams,

asr-003173
03:39:58.980 --> 03:40:05.020
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: particularly those occurring through Facebook and other META platforms.

asr-003174
03:40:05.820 --> 03:40:11.640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The DICT announced an agreement with META as early as February 2026,

asr-003175
03:40:12.900 --> 03:40:20.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: covering fake investment schemes, phishing, digital fraud, online scams, and deep fakes.

asr-003176
03:40:21.680 --> 03:40:24.740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What does the agreement actually entail, Mr. Speaker?

asr-003177
03:40:27.380 --> 03:40:36.680
Rep. Brian Poe: So, Madam Speaker, the agreement that was being referred to is separate from the MOA that they're currently working on.

asr-003178
03:40:37.020 --> 03:40:40.600
Rep. Brian Poe: And to update my colleague, because of the urgency,

asr-003179
03:40:41.140 --> 03:40:47.900
Rep. Brian Poe: as of yesterday, the DICT and CICC have already started their technical working group with META

asr-003180
03:40:47.900 --> 03:40:53.680
Rep. Brian Poe: to be able to address the concerns of our constituents with regards to these matters.

asr-003181
03:40:53.680 --> 03:40:56.620
Rep. Brian Poe: However, on the status of the TWG,

asr-003182
03:40:57.380 --> 03:40:58.820
Rep. Brian Poe: because they're just about to start,

asr-003183
03:40:59.280 --> 03:41:03.480
Rep. Brian Poe: they're only doing role assignments and immediate target setting.

asr-003184
03:41:04.800 --> 03:41:11.720
Rep. Brian Poe: But as the days go on, we'll see immediate action from the relevant agencies, Madam Speaker.

asr-003185
03:41:12.600 --> 03:41:13.780
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

asr-003186
03:41:14.040 --> 03:41:18.580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: By the way, how many, as far as Facebook account,

asr-003187
03:41:19.260 --> 03:41:24.280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: do they have Facebook or the META as an office here in the Philippines?

asr-003188
03:41:27.380 --> 03:41:35.820
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I would like to confirm that Facebook does have a physical office here in the Philippines.

asr-003189
03:41:36.160 --> 03:41:39.540
Rep. Brian Poe: However, we don't have jurisdiction over them, Madam Speaker,

asr-003190
03:41:39.540 --> 03:41:41.380
Rep. Brian Poe: dahil marketing office lang po ito.

asr-003191
03:41:41.580 --> 03:41:46.840
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, Madam Speaker, wala talaga silang office, only marketing arm.

asr-003192
03:41:47.000 --> 03:41:51.000
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ibig sabihin, pang-marketing, pang-recruit lang.

asr-003193
03:41:51.480 --> 03:41:56.260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, what I'm trying to say, do they have a country manager here in the Philippines?

asr-003195
03:41:57.240 --> 03:41:59.960
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And how many employees do they employ?

asr-003196
03:42:02.120 --> 03:42:05.680
Rep. Brian Poe: There's only a handful of employees here in the Philippines, Madam Speaker,

asr-003197
03:42:05.780 --> 03:42:08.780
Rep. Brian Poe: and they don't have an official country manager for the Philippines.

asr-003198
03:42:09.320 --> 03:42:13.600
Rep. Brian Poe: But I would like to assure my colleague that one of the terms that,

asr-003199
03:42:13.740 --> 03:42:18.440
Rep. Brian Poe: the two of the terms that are being considered in this technical working group

asr-003200
03:42:18.440 --> 03:42:23.440
Rep. Brian Poe: is one, that they do have a physical office here in the Philippines,

asr-003201
03:42:24.040 --> 03:42:25.660
Rep. Brian Poe: a corporate office here in the Philippines,

asr-003202
03:42:25.660 --> 03:42:26.940
Rep. Brian Poe: and that two,

asr-003203
03:42:27.240 --> 03:42:34.820
Rep. Brian Poe: that they require the national ID already for users of META here in the Philippines.

asr-003204
03:42:35.260 --> 03:42:36.320
Rep. Brian Poe: And it's been done before.

asr-003205
03:42:36.480 --> 03:42:41.480
Rep. Brian Poe: I want to point that out, that Brazil has already implemented such a system

asr-003206
03:42:41.480 --> 03:42:42.980
Rep. Brian Poe: because of their age restrictions.

asr-003207
03:42:44.160 --> 03:42:44.840
Rep. Brian Poe: So, it is possible.

asr-003208
03:42:44.840 --> 03:42:48.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, what I'm trying to say, do they have office?

asr-003209
03:42:49.160 --> 03:42:50.540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do they have managers?

asr-003210
03:42:51.160 --> 03:42:52.540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Not the marketing itself.

asr-003211
03:42:53.180 --> 03:42:54.340
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yun ang gusto naming mangyari.

asr-003212
03:42:54.520 --> 03:42:54.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: See?

asr-003213
03:42:54.660 --> 03:42:55.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: There's none.

asr-003214
03:42:55.700 --> 03:42:56.980
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, we don't have jurisdiction.

asr-003215
03:42:57.240 --> 03:42:58.300
Rep. Brian Poe: I agree with my colleague.

asr-003216
03:42:58.540 --> 03:42:59.300
Rep. Brian Poe: It's ridiculous.

asr-003217
03:42:59.720 --> 03:43:03.520
Rep. Brian Poe: Considering that the Philippines is the fifth largest population on META,

asr-003218
03:43:03.960 --> 03:43:09.900
Rep. Brian Poe: that META does not have an actual country manager and a real office here in the Philippines,

asr-003219
03:43:10.060 --> 03:43:17.440
Rep. Brian Poe: considering the amount of capital that this country provides META through its engagement on the platform.

asr-003220
03:43:17.720 --> 03:43:19.760
Rep. Brian Poe: So, I agree with my colleague here.

asr-003221
03:43:20.020 --> 03:43:21.820
Rep. Brian Poe: This is a priority for us.

asr-003222
03:43:21.820 --> 03:43:26.880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, the distinguished sponsor mentioned a while ago that we are,

asr-003223
03:43:26.880 --> 03:43:30.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the fifth largest users of META.

asr-003224
03:43:30.980 --> 03:43:35.580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Imagine, the entire, sa buong mundo, pang lima tayo,

asr-003225
03:43:36.140 --> 03:43:42.160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and we're only, what, 120 million Filipinos compared to other countries,

asr-003226
03:43:42.740 --> 03:43:43.640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: transing billions.

asr-003227
03:43:44.200 --> 03:43:46.400
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But again, so we're being ignored.

asr-003228
03:43:46.860 --> 03:43:50.880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm not trying to blame the ICT, Madam Speaker.

asr-003229
03:43:50.880 --> 03:43:52.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito po yung sinasabi natin.

asr-003230
03:43:53.580 --> 03:43:56.600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We keep on making their businesses.

asr-003231
03:43:56.880 --> 03:43:57.120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Big.

asr-003232
03:43:57.680 --> 03:44:01.180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But in return, hindi mo lang tayo mapansin.

asr-003233
03:44:01.600 --> 03:44:06.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Not even as office here in the Philippines, hindi maibigay sa atin.

asr-003234
03:44:07.140 --> 03:44:11.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And they have to follow the Philippine laws, Madam Speaker.

asr-003235
03:44:12.280 --> 03:44:17.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, my next question, ano po ang ginawa ng DICT?

asr-003236
03:44:17.620 --> 03:44:22.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Did you persuade them na magtayo kayo sa opisina?

asr-003237
03:44:23.320 --> 03:44:25.920
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Opisina, that you have a country manager,

asr-003238
03:44:25.920 --> 03:44:32.120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that you have the organizational structure that will look into sa mga scammers?

asr-003239
03:44:32.800 --> 03:44:36.000
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang dami nang lumalabas, kawawa ang ating mga kababayan.

asr-003240
03:44:36.360 --> 03:44:39.040
Rep. Brian Poe: Well, the two non-negotiables, Madam Speaker,

asr-003241
03:44:39.240 --> 03:44:42.620
Rep. Brian Poe: are one, that they open an actual office here in the Philippines

asr-003242
03:44:42.620 --> 03:44:44.440
Rep. Brian Poe: so that they can be held accountable.

asr-003243
03:44:44.880 --> 03:44:50.360
Rep. Brian Poe: And two, Madam Speaker, again, for the sake of accountability and protection on social media,

asr-003244
03:44:50.360 --> 03:44:55.900
Rep. Brian Poe: the requirement of national ID in order to create or maintain your account on the META platform,

asr-003245
03:44:55.920 --> 03:44:57.160
Rep. Brian Poe: here in the Philippines.

asr-003246
03:44:57.300 --> 03:44:59.440
Rep. Brian Poe: So, these are steps that are being taken.

asr-003247
03:45:00.000 --> 03:45:10.820
Rep. Brian Poe: To be fair to META, META seems open to these requirements and have even cited other countries in which they had similar requirements and acted on it.

asr-003248
03:45:10.820 --> 03:45:21.440
Rep. Brian Poe: So we're moving in that direction and the results of this technical working group that just started, hopefully we'll be able to see it within the next few months.

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03:45:21.440 --> 03:45:39.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, the concern is that DICT has several programs, publicized partnerships and coordination mechanisms, but we know, but we don't have visibility of the result of those initiatives.

asr-003250
03:45:40.400 --> 03:45:51.180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What system does DICT currently have to ensure that actions announced by the department are actually monitored through implementation?

asr-003251
03:45:51.440 --> 03:46:03.960
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I want to share with my colleague here and all the members of Congress that there is actual action that DICT is taking to hold META accountable.

asr-003252
03:46:03.960 --> 03:46:20.380
Rep. Brian Poe: And what I have here in my hand, Madam Speaker, is a copy of several documents that have been submitted to the Office of the Solicitor General to possibly build up a case against META for abuses that take place on their platform,

asr-003253
03:46:20.380 --> 03:46:21.380
Rep. Brian Poe: which they turn...

asr-003254
03:46:21.440 --> 03:46:22.620
Rep. Brian Poe: A blind eye too.

asr-003255
03:46:23.260 --> 03:46:31.020
Rep. Brian Poe: So in this, we have in Annex A, a draft of a civil complaint, which was prepared by the DICT.

asr-003256
03:46:31.020 --> 03:46:48.020
Rep. Brian Poe: In Annex B, there is a formal request drawing from global litigation precedents in Brazil, New Mexico, and Los Angeles that recognize platforms as active participants rather than passive intermediaries of actions taken on their platform.

asr-003257
03:46:48.720 --> 03:46:51.020
Rep. Brian Poe: Annex C actually has...

asr-003258
03:46:51.440 --> 03:47:01.600
Rep. Brian Poe: All the evidence and documentation of abuse, that's OSAEC, CSAEM, financial fraud, online debt harassment, illegal gambling,

asr-003259
03:47:01.840 --> 03:47:09.240
Rep. Brian Poe: records of platform knowledge and inaction is also included in this document in Annex C.

asr-003260
03:47:09.240 --> 03:47:17.540
Rep. Brian Poe: In Annex D, the National Privacy Commission asserted its regulatory jurisdiction over META

asr-003261
03:47:17.540 --> 03:47:24.840
Rep. Brian Poe: in relation to the processing of personal data for AI-generated content and functionalities.

asr-003262
03:47:25.160 --> 03:47:36.720
Rep. Brian Poe: And the NTC submitted its legal position paper on a test case for courts to propose action to be taken against Facebook in Annex E.

asr-003263
03:47:36.720 --> 03:47:44.280
Rep. Brian Poe: So the DICT and its attached agencies aren't just sitting around waiting for something to happen.

asr-003264
03:47:44.640 --> 03:47:47.520
Rep. Brian Poe: They've already prepared the necessary evidence, documents,

asr-003265
03:47:47.540 --> 03:47:54.000
Rep. Brian Poe: and potential cases to hold META accountable should they not work together with our government.

asr-003266
03:47:54.380 --> 03:47:59.500
Rep. Brian Poe: So I would like to request the assistance of a page to pass a copy of this to my colleague

asr-003267
03:47:59.500 --> 03:48:04.100
Rep. Brian Poe: so that my colleague would be able to go over the document.

asr-003268
03:48:04.780 --> 03:48:12.420
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, what if I file a House resolution in aid of legislation and I will summon the DICT

asr-003269
03:48:12.420 --> 03:48:15.800
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and who will be the representatives from META?

asr-003270
03:48:15.800 --> 03:48:17.220
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sino bang papadala lang?

asr-003271
03:48:17.540 --> 03:48:24.600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kali mag-file ako ng House resolution with regard to what happened to Zamboanga massacre.

asr-003272
03:48:24.800 --> 03:48:27.400
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And of course, yung mga kanilang violation.

asr-003273
03:48:27.680 --> 03:48:29.700
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sino ang pupunta rito from META?

asr-003274
03:48:30.940 --> 03:48:32.140
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anyone from META?

asr-003275
03:48:32.780 --> 03:48:34.740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Will be held responsible?

asr-003276
03:48:34.740 --> 03:48:45.540
Rep. Brian Poe: From the DICT, they themselves wrote directly to Mark Zuckerberg to ask him to confront these issues which we are facing.

asr-003277
03:48:46.300 --> 03:48:46.740
Rep. Brian Poe: Although...

asr-003278
03:48:47.540 --> 03:48:48.780
Rep. Brian Poe: There was no response.

asr-003279
03:48:49.000 --> 03:48:53.560
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, I don't think the founder, Mark Zuckerberg, will come here.

asr-003280
03:48:54.020 --> 03:48:56.080
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Para sa atin, ganito lang tayo sa kanya.

asr-003281
03:48:56.300 --> 03:48:58.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They make a lot of money through Facebook.

asr-003282
03:48:59.320 --> 03:49:03.140
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam naman nila na puri karamihan is...

asr-003283
03:49:03.140 --> 03:49:04.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm not saying the whole thing, no?

asr-003284
03:49:04.840 --> 03:49:06.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because I don't have...

asr-003285
03:49:06.300 --> 03:49:08.560
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Myself, I don't have Facebook account, no?

asr-003286
03:49:08.980 --> 03:49:14.980
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi alam ko maraming kalokohan dyan, pero maraming gumagamit at karamihan sa ating mga kababayan

asr-003287
03:49:14.980 --> 03:49:17.380
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ay kumikita naman dyan, in fairness.

asr-003288
03:49:17.540 --> 03:49:18.820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: To Facebook, no?

asr-003289
03:49:18.900 --> 03:49:19.440
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: To META.

asr-003290
03:49:19.820 --> 03:49:22.920
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But again, we're talking about responsibility.

asr-003291
03:49:23.780 --> 03:49:28.400
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We're talking about yung kailangan nila maging, ano sila rito, accountable.

asr-003292
03:49:29.080 --> 03:49:33.180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yan po ang kailangan natin, Madam Speaker.

asr-003293
03:49:33.180 --> 03:49:39.440
Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, though Mark Zuckerberg himself never showed up in countries like Brazil and others,

asr-003294
03:49:39.800 --> 03:49:44.460
Rep. Brian Poe: they did send legal representation to confront the issues in other countries.

asr-003295
03:49:44.620 --> 03:49:45.180
Rep. Brian Poe: So, I assume...

asr-003296
03:49:46.000 --> 03:49:47.380
Rep. Brian Poe: Kung magkaroon po tayo ng isang...

asr-003297
03:49:47.540 --> 03:49:50.160
Rep. Brian Poe: Kung magkaroon po tayo ng isang House Resolution investigating this,

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03:49:50.460 --> 03:49:56.980
Rep. Brian Poe: kailangan na kailangan magpadala ng representation ang META to confront these valid issues from the House of Representatives.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the issue then is not the absence of initiatives,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but whether the ICT has sufficient mechanisms to monitor implementation and measure actual results.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I appreciate the responses of the Department,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the good sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: However, I remain concerned that there is still insufficient information before this body

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: regarding the actual outcomes of the ICT's anti-scam initiatives.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The Department has entered into agreement, established reporting mechanisms,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and coordinated with private platforms and law enforcement agency.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for purposes of budget review,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this Committee must also be able to determine what happened after those actions were initiated.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Without that information,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it is difficult for Congress to properly assess whether the resources being requested are producing the intended outcomes.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Accordingly, Madam Chair,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: until those matters are a satisfactory address,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the Department can...

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the Department can present measurables, deliverables.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Speaker, it pains me, but I have no choice.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move that for consideration of the budget of the Department of Information and Communication Technology be deferred.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Madam Speaker,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: on the part of the majority,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: we join the minority in the motion to defer the period of interpellations on the proposed budget

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: of the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: including its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Because of the wisdom of the minority,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: that the plan of the ICT insofar as curbing scams,

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03:52:17.540 --> 03:52:22.680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and victimizing our children on the negative aspects,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: especially on their behavior,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: has not been addressed well,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: there is a motion from the minority,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: duly supported by the majority,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to defer consideration of the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do we hear an objection?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, said motion.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Consideration of the budget of DICT,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its attached agencies,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: hereby deferred.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we request the DOLE family to be seated so we can start?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Labor and Employment, including its attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: An objection? Hearing none.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Labor and Employment, including its attached agencies, is hereby open.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Department of Labor and Employment, namely DOLE Secretary Francis Tolentino,

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: TESDA Secretary Jose Francisco Kiko Benitez, Undersecretary Warren Miclat, Undersecretary Felipe Egargo Jr.,

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Undersecretary Carmela Torres, and we would also like to acknowledge the presence of the heads of attached agencies, regional directors, other officials and employees of DOLE.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Department of Labor and Employment family, together with its attached agencies, headed by our very good friend, colleague, and former boss and mentor, Secretary Francis Tolentino,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Ang gabay at tatay ng ating mga manggagawa.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: At kamanggagawa, maraming salamat po sa inyong pagdalo dito sa Kongreso.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Rommel Angara of the Lone District of Aurora

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: and the Honorable Vice Chair Maria Angela Garcia of the Third District of Bataan to sponsor the proposed budget of DOLE.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Vice Chair Rommel Angara is hereby recognized

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Sponsor the budget of the Department of Labor and Employment.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: And of course, the Honorable Vice Chair Maria Angela Garcia, sponsor of the proposed budget of TESDA, are hereby recognized.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayong gabing ito, at tayo na po ang huling magkakaroon ng depensa sa ating budget ng ating Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasama na po ang ating attached agencies, including TESDA.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: For the NEP of 2027, Department of Labor and Employment has Php 47,057,355,000.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sa aking mga kasamahan dito sa Kongreso, ang ating budget po noong ating 2026 GAA ay Php 61.2 billion.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So mayroon po tayong Php 14.1 billion na nabawas sa ating pondo na alam kong napakahalaga pagdating sa pagdating sa pagservisyo ng mandato ng ating Departamento.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At that same time, pagbibigay ng mga karagdagang skills to upskill our workforce in the future.

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04:03:07.000 --> 04:03:22.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ako ay naniniwala na sa ating mga kasamahan at pagdating ng ating mga susunod pa mga deliberasyon na sana ang hiling po natin ay madagdagan o may balikman lamang yung pondong kinakailangan para lubusang magampanan ng ating Departamento ang kanilang mandato.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pangalawa, sa ating bagong Secretary Francis Tolentino, alam po ninyo,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang mga initiatives under his new leadership na kung saan sa aking palagay ay malaki ang maitutulong para sa ating Departamento at sa ating mga laborers and workers, hindi lamang sa NCR, bagkos sa buong Pilipinas.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Una, ay hinihingi rin niya po sa Kongreso ang karagdagan na sana ay magkaroon ng karagdagang Php 75 million upang sa ating Labor Attorney's Office.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ano po ito, aking mga kasamahan?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Siyempre po, alam naman po natin na ang PAO ay libre na po sa ating mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Subalit, sa dami po ng kaso na mga kinakaharap ng ating PAO, minabuti ng ating butihing Secretary na mayroong tututok sa ating mga manggagawa, oras na ito ay magkaroon ng free legal assistance, yan po ang ating Labor Attorney's Office in conjunction o kasama po dito yung bagong itatayo na NALJ o National Academy for Labor Justice.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya sa aking mga kasamahan, I'm sure ito po ay napakahalaga.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para ma-implement ngayong 2026 and moving forward hanggang 2027 para siguraduhin natin na ang ating mga workers, hindi lamang sa Metro Manila bagkos sa buong Pilipinas, ay magkaroon ng kahit papaano ay social protection at meron silang masasandalan pagdating ng oras ng kinakailangan. So Madam Speaker, this representation from the Lone District of Aurora is now ready for interpellation together with Maria Angela Garcia for TESDA. Madam Speaker, we're now open for interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Elijah San Fernando of Partylist Kamanggagawa to interpolate on the proposed budget of the DOLE.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Elijah San Fernando is hereby recognized for his interpolation.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, at sa ating kaibigan, ang kagalang-galang na Romel Angara, sponsor po ng budget ng Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Malinaw po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang mandato ng Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ito ay ipagtanggol at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Diyan pa lamang po, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, napakabigat na na responsibilidad ang nakaatang sa Department of Labor and Employment.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang malaking tanong ng mga manggagawa,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bakit sa hinihinging budget ng Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 67% o tumataginting na 14 bilyong piso,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang ilalaan para sa DOLE, Office of the Secretary, particular sa programang tupad, Mr. Sponsor?

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04:06:27.980 --> 04:06:32.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: What is the question, Distinguished Colleague?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Bakit po, 67% o tumataginting na 14 bilyong piso, ang ilalaan ng DOLE, Office of the Secretary, sa programang tupad, Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you for that, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo po,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pag dinisek mo po yung ating pondo ng Office of the Secretary,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi pagdating po, doon lang po ilalagak yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero eventually, pagdating ng implementation, it will be trickled down to the regional offices,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: down to provincial levels, per district, per town,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para magkaroon po ng employment at tulong sa ating mga kababayan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Simple as that, Madam Speaker and ating Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: binibigyang matwid ngayon ng Department of Labor and Employment,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na mahigit kalahati ng budget na hinihingi ng DOLE for the Office of the Secretary,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay ilalaan sa tupad kung ang isa sa malaking mandato ng DOLE

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay proteksyonan, ipagtanggol, at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Papaano maiintindihan ng mga manggagawa na ginagampanan ng DOLE

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang napakaraming mga responsibilidad na ito

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung 67% ng budget,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay ilalagak natin sa Office of the Secretary,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: partikular sa programang tupad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang binabanggit po ng butihing sponsor, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay para daw po makapag-provide ng mga emergency na trabaho.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama po ba ito, Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That is correct, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, malinaw po ba na refleksyon ito ng labor policy ng ating pamahalaan

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung saan mas binibigyang prioridad ang mga emergency jobs?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa halip ng lumikha ng mga trabahong pangmatagalan at dekalidad,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, alam mo, yung tupad was started during the pandemic.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And I agree with you.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero you also have to understand, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating bansa ng Pilipinas, unfortunately,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nagkaroon tayo ng mga natural disasters.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo, pag nangyari ito, even the local governments,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I came from the local government,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: minsan karamihan dyan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: walang pera,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para pang salba sa ating mga naaksidente, binagyo, so on and so forth.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Even pag nagkaroon ng programa para sa ating transport group,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: papasok po ang tupad.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, I get your point na sinasabi po ninyo na dapat lamang ba ay trabaho natin.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: You also have to understand o dapat po nating alalanin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: puwera sa polisiya na paggawa ng formats, programs ng DOLE,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay kinakailangan na sa mandato rin ito ay magkaroon ng trabaho para sa ating mamamayang Pilipino.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It is not per se na kinakailangan natin na ito ay patuloy na ginagawa,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pero unfortunately, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito po ay at the end of the day,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kada probinsya at ang buong bansa ay talaga minsan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: unfortunately, ay nangangailangan ng ayuda at tulong para sa ating mga mamamayan.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maganda po na nabanggit, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng ating butihing sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na meron tayong mga isinasaalang-alang na mga konsiderasyon gaya ng krisis.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngunit, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po tinatanggap ng representasyong ito na gagamitin dahilan ang krisis

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para sa paglobo ng budget ng tupad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: makikita natin,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa loob ng sampung taon mula 2016,

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04:10:21.760 --> 04:10:24.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi nagbago, virtually the same,

asr-003487
04:10:24.460 --> 04:10:26.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang pondong inilalaan

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04:10:27.980 --> 04:10:30.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga trabaho o mandato

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04:10:30.880 --> 04:10:33.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Dole Office of the Secretary

asr-003490
04:10:33.120 --> 04:10:34.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: samantalang kitang-kita

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04:10:34.840 --> 04:10:37.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang papalubo at papalaking bilang

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04:10:37.900 --> 04:10:40.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng inilalagak natin sa tupad.

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04:10:40.960 --> 04:10:42.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, hindi po maaaring sabihin

asr-003494
04:10:42.380 --> 04:10:44.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na dahil sa krisis, Madam Speaker,

asr-003495
04:10:45.660 --> 04:10:48.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil bago pa man magkaroon ng krisis,

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04:10:48.640 --> 04:10:51.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Dole, batay sa kanyang budget,

asr-003497
04:10:51.700 --> 04:10:54.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: papalaki ng papalaki ang inilalagak sa tupad

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04:10:54.940 --> 04:10:56.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kaysa palakihin ang budget

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04:10:56.940 --> 04:10:57.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa iba pa.

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04:10:57.980 --> 04:11:00.320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ang mga funksyon ng Department of Labor and Employment?

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04:11:00.400 --> 04:11:01.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor.

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04:11:01.720 --> 04:11:03.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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04:11:04.000 --> 04:11:05.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'd like to correct the facts.

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04:11:05.480 --> 04:11:09.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sa Office of the Secretary, it's not 67%, but 52%.

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04:11:09.180 --> 04:11:12.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: For the record, Distinguished Colleague,

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04:11:12.660 --> 04:11:13.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and secondly,

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04:11:13.920 --> 04:11:15.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tama po, but you also have to understand,

asr-003508
04:11:16.180 --> 04:11:18.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tupad per se is not just tupad per se.

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04:11:18.280 --> 04:11:21.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It also includes the government internship program

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04:11:21.580 --> 04:11:23.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung saan yung ating mga fresh graduates

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04:11:23.780 --> 04:11:25.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay papasok sa ating mga gobyerno

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04:11:25.540 --> 04:11:27.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: upang sagayoy mag-gain sila ng employability

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04:11:27.820 --> 04:11:27.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at mag-gain sila ng employability

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04:11:27.980 --> 04:11:29.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: alam naman po natin dito sa ating bansa

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04:11:29.980 --> 04:11:33.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung saan karamihan ng mga ating employers

asr-003516
04:11:33.240 --> 04:11:35.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay nangangailangan ng kinakailangan experience

asr-003517
04:11:35.880 --> 04:11:37.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para ito ay sila'y ma-hire.

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04:11:37.680 --> 04:11:39.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And in fact, sabi ko nga,

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04:11:39.200 --> 04:11:40.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: because of this situation,

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04:11:41.260 --> 04:11:43.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay ito po ay maraming mga fresh graduates

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04:11:43.680 --> 04:11:44.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang makikinabang dito.

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04:11:45.040 --> 04:11:46.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sabi ko nga, ang isa sa mandato

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04:11:46.360 --> 04:11:47.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating departemento

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04:11:47.820 --> 04:11:49.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay mag-create ng ating mga trabaho

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04:11:49.540 --> 04:11:53.400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: not only for the normal na manggagawa

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04:11:53.400 --> 04:11:56.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: but also sa ating mga fresh graduates

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04:11:56.060 --> 04:11:56.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dito sa ating bansa.

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04:11:56.840 --> 04:11:57.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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04:11:57.980 --> 04:12:00.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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04:12:00.360 --> 04:12:03.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: binabanggit po ng DOLE na hindi 67%,

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04:12:03.300 --> 04:12:04.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kundi 52% lamang.

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04:12:05.500 --> 04:12:07.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero malinaw po, doon sa budget ng DOLE,

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04:12:07.780 --> 04:12:09.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: wala naman kasing distinksyon

asr-003534
04:12:09.200 --> 04:12:10.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang TUPAD at GIP.

asr-003535
04:12:11.820 --> 04:12:13.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So kapag sinuma natin,

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04:12:13.160 --> 04:12:17.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 67% ang nasa TUPAD, hindi 52%.

asr-003537
04:12:17.100 --> 04:12:19.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Be that as it may, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

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04:12:20.540 --> 04:12:23.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang punto natin, mahigit kalahati pa rin

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04:12:23.240 --> 04:12:25.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng pondo ang inilalagak sa TUPAD.

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04:12:25.620 --> 04:12:26.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya ako po ito tinanong,

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04:12:26.980 --> 04:12:28.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

asr-003542
04:12:28.980 --> 04:12:32.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasi sa 2025 COA findings,

asr-003543
04:12:32.980 --> 04:12:37.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sangkatutak na irregularidad ang nakita sa TUPAD.

asr-003544
04:12:37.980 --> 04:12:40.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Halimbawa, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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04:12:40.980 --> 04:12:42.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: base sa audit findings ng COA,

asr-003546
04:12:42.980 --> 04:12:45.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: may mga benepisaryo ang TUPAD

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04:12:45.980 --> 04:12:48.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakakatanggap ng payout,

asr-003548
04:12:48.980 --> 04:12:50.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi lang po isang beses,

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04:12:50.980 --> 04:12:52.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi lang dalawang beses,

asr-003550
04:12:52.980 --> 04:12:56.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kundi tatlo hanggang apat na beses,

asr-003551
04:12:56.980 --> 04:12:59.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakakatanggap ng payout.

asr-003552
04:12:59.980 --> 04:13:05.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mismong DOLE ay nagva-violate ng guidelines o rule

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04:13:05.980 --> 04:13:07.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pagdating sa TUPAD.

asr-003554
04:13:07.980 --> 04:13:10.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: One per family per year.

asr-003555
04:13:10.980 --> 04:13:14.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos ngayon, nagre-request uli ang Department of Labor and Employment,

asr-003556
04:13:14.980 --> 04:13:16.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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04:13:16.980 --> 04:13:20.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng pagkalaki-laking budget na naman sa TUPAD

asr-003558
04:13:20.980 --> 04:13:25.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na hindi pa nare-resolve ba ang sistema dito

asr-003559
04:13:25.980 --> 04:13:28.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa mga benepisaryo ng TUPAD.

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04:13:28.980 --> 04:13:30.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor.

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04:13:30.980 --> 04:13:33.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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04:13:33.980 --> 04:13:38.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, to answer directly sa ating katanungan ng ating sponsor,

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04:13:38.980 --> 04:13:41.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I clarify that also to the Department.

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04:13:41.980 --> 04:13:44.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Siguro ang tinutukoy niyo po dito ay yung 1,275

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04:13:44.980 --> 04:13:47.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na naka-finlag ng COA, na Commission on Audit,

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04:13:47.980 --> 04:13:51.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung saan nakatanggap ito di umano ng dalawang beses.

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04:13:51.980 --> 04:13:54.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: For the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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04:13:54.980 --> 04:13:56.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pinanong na po natin kung sa regional director,

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04:13:56.980 --> 04:14:00.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung saan region ito ay nangyari base doon sa ating COA report.

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04:14:00.980 --> 04:14:06.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At doon po sa sinasabing 1,275, may explanation po dyan at ito po iyon.

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04:14:06.980 --> 04:14:12.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Una, yung 1,275 na binabanggit ay nagkamali po yun sa database lamang.

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04:14:12.980 --> 04:14:17.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Because kasama po doon sa mga 1,275 na iyon,

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04:14:17.980 --> 04:14:23.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: let me reiterate, Mr. Distinguished Colleague, na yes, tama ka doon sa sinabi mong isang beses lamang.

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04:14:23.980 --> 04:14:27.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pwede magtupad. Pero there's an exception to it.

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04:14:27.980 --> 04:14:30.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pag may kalamidad, pwedeng umulit po. That's for the record.

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04:14:30.980 --> 04:14:37.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero nung ito ay nating nadiskubre doon sa database po, nagkamali lamang sa database.

asr-003577
04:14:37.980 --> 04:14:40.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ito ay naayos na po natin sa Commission on Audit.

asr-003578
04:14:40.980 --> 04:14:49.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At kinalabasan po dito na 15 lamang out of the 1,275 ang nagkaroon ng doubling payment.

asr-003579
04:14:49.980 --> 04:14:52.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And for the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-003580
04:14:52.980 --> 04:14:58.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa labing limang iyon, sinigurado rin po natin, siyempre, sabi ko nga po, ang dole ay laging susunod.

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04:15:00.000 --> 04:15:10.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa alituntunin ng batas at lalo na sa sarili niyang requirement na dapat isang beses lamang bayaran ang isang nagmembro o nagtrabaho para sa tupad.

asr-003582
04:15:11.060 --> 04:15:21.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And for information of the body, kahit i-double check po natin, yung labing limang recipient po yun ay nakuha na po muli yung ating pondo

asr-003583
04:15:21.100 --> 04:15:27.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dahil nagkamali nga po at yan po ay ni-report na po namin sa COA, Madam Speaker at Distinguished Colleague.

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04:15:27.060 --> 04:15:38.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, hindi lang po 1,275 beneficiaries. Batay po sa COA findings, meron din pong nakakuha sa Saksargen,

asr-003585
04:15:38.700 --> 04:15:49.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 330 persons collected assistance twice, 57 collected three times, and 132 collected four times.

asr-003586
04:15:49.460 --> 04:15:56.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So hindi po po pwedeng gamitin na palusot ng dole na meron lang simpleng problema sa database.

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04:15:56.020 --> 04:16:02.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, hindi po kami nagpapalusot, Distinguished Colleague.

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04:16:03.140 --> 04:16:09.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Based dun po sa mga binanggit po niyo sa Saksargen and the rest, all of those are already settled sa COA.

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04:16:09.220 --> 04:16:16.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sabi ko nga po, hindi po po pwedeng kami po ay very strict pertaining sa implementation ng hindi lamang sa tupad,

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04:16:16.320 --> 04:16:19.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: bagkos sa lahat ng programa ng ating Department of Labor and Employment.

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04:16:19.920 --> 04:16:26.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At sisiguraduin ko po sa inyo, after this, we can give you the data na kung saan na binigay na po namin sa Commission on Oil,

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04:16:26.020 --> 04:16:28.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at nasettle na po yung lahat ng ating gagawin.

asr-003593
04:16:28.340 --> 04:16:34.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In short, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, dun sa mga binanggit po natin, may ito be Saksargen, may ito be Zamboanga Peninsula,

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04:16:35.140 --> 04:16:42.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at the end of the day, kahit saan po yan, sisiguraduin namin, sabi ko nga po, minsan nagkakamali at inaamin during the aking example,

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04:16:43.480 --> 04:16:52.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pero sinisigurado namin, nire-retract natin ito, ginagawa natin tama at sumusunod sa alituntunin ng ating Commission on Audit, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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04:16:52.020 --> 04:16:55.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

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04:16:56.020 --> 04:17:08.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, dahil pinagtibay lang ng ating butihing sponsor, ang ating binabanggit kanina, na ang pondo, malaking pondo na inilalagak sa Dole, Office of the Secretary, ay napupunta sa Tupad,

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04:17:09.040 --> 04:17:13.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at mas pinagtibay pa ito ng ating pinag-uusapan kanina. At dyan po ako tutungo.

asr-003599
04:17:14.600 --> 04:17:19.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ulitin lang po natin, ano nga ba ang mandato ng Department of Labor and Employment?

asr-003600
04:17:20.240 --> 04:17:25.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ipagtanggol at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

asr-003601
04:17:26.020 --> 04:17:36.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At isa sa paraan para itaguyod at ipagtanggol ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa ay sa pamamagitan ng labor inspeksyon.

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04:17:37.860 --> 04:17:49.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya nga po, kinikilala mismo ni Sekretary ng butihing Sekretary ng Department of Labor and Employment, kulang naman talaga ang mga labor inspectors.

asr-003603
04:17:49.680 --> 04:17:55.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya kailangan natin dagdagan ng budget. Ito po ang malaking tanong.

asr-003604
04:17:56.020 --> 04:18:06.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, kung kinikilala ng Department of Labor and Employment ang malaking kakulangan sa mga inspektor,

asr-003605
04:18:07.020 --> 04:18:14.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bakit sa halip nalagakan ng mas malaking pondo ang ating mga labor inspektor ay inilalaan ito muli sa Tupad?

asr-003606
04:18:16.100 --> 04:18:20.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Papaano ngayon tinitindigan ng Department of Labor and Employment ang kanyang mandato?

asr-003607
04:18:20.640 --> 04:18:26.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kung sa simpleng labor inspektor ay hindi nito magawang tindigan ang kanyang mandato.

asr-003608
04:18:26.020 --> 04:18:33.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, maraming salamat po dun sa pagbigay mo ng impormasyon na iyon. Bakit?

asr-003609
04:18:33.020 --> 04:18:41.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Una, kasi nga po, tandaan po natin, pag in terms of plantilya positions, it has to run through the Department of Budget and Management.

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04:18:41.020 --> 04:18:50.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At sinabi na rin po natin during the budget hearing, ang actual plantilya positions po natin, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ay 1,210.

asr-003611
04:18:50.020 --> 04:18:54.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero ang ating actual lamang is around 1,046.

asr-003612
04:18:54.020 --> 04:18:55.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At nabanggit din po sa

asr-003613
04:18:55.020 --> 04:18:56.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nasabing

asr-003614
04:18:56.020 --> 04:19:10.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: budget hearing, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, sa lawak ng kakailangan inspeksyonin, and again, I'd like to quote the Secretary, sa Region 3 alone, mahigit 7,000 na ang kailangang inspeksyunin.

asr-003615
04:19:10.020 --> 04:19:19.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Iyon po ay isang region lamang po. Pero kapag buong kabuan, sa suma total ay halos kailangan mo ng 9,000 na labor inspectors.

asr-003616
04:19:19.020 --> 04:19:25.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At iyan po ay binanggit po natin nung nanakaraang budget hearing ng Department of Labor and Employment na sana,

asr-003617
04:19:25.020 --> 04:19:39.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: not in one year, kahit staggered po, kahit within 10 years, pero sana para lalo natin mapagsilbihan yung ating mga manggagawa, maportereksyonan sila doon sa mga ating labor inspections, ay sana ay madagdagan ito eventually in the long run.

asr-003618
04:19:39.020 --> 04:19:43.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya nga po, Mr. Sponsor, hindi po nasagot ang tanong.

asr-003619
04:19:43.020 --> 04:19:47.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nangangailangan ng malaking bilang na mga labor inspector ang DOLE.

asr-003620
04:19:47.020 --> 04:19:53.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero sa halip na ilagak ng Office of the Secretary ng DOLE ang pondo sa mga labor inspector,

asr-003621
04:19:53.020 --> 04:19:59.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mas minarapat ng DOLE na maglagak ng mas malaking pondo sa TUPAD.

asr-003622
04:19:59.020 --> 04:20:03.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po sinasagot ng Department of Labor and Employment.

asr-003623
04:20:03.020 --> 04:20:07.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: TUPAD? Labor Inspector.

asr-003624
04:20:07.020 --> 04:20:11.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Just to prove a point, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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04:20:11.020 --> 04:20:19.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: alam niyo po kung gaano ka-absurd yung itsura ng budget ng Department of Labor and Employment, Office of the Secretary?

asr-003626
04:20:19.020 --> 04:20:21.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Admin cost ng TUPAD?

asr-003627
04:20:21.020 --> 04:20:25.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 712 million pesos.

asr-003628
04:20:27.020 --> 04:20:35.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Samantala, ang sahod ng mga labor inspector, 605 million pesos lang.

asr-003629
04:20:35.020 --> 04:20:39.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ba namang klaseng kalokohan yan, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor?

asr-003630
04:20:39.020 --> 04:20:47.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mas malaki ang nilalagak sa admin cost ng TUPAD kaysa pagpapasahod ng mga labor inspector.

asr-003631
04:20:47.020 --> 04:20:49.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Batid po ba ng Department of Labor and Employment?

asr-003632
04:20:49.020 --> 04:20:52.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Gaano kahirap ang buhay ng mga inspector?

asr-003633
04:20:52.020 --> 04:20:56.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ako po mismo, ang kinatawang ito, ay sumama sa mga inspector sa Laguna.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos ang maririnig po natin ngayon, eh mas okay na na mas lakihan ng budget sa TUPAD kaysa sa mga labor inspector.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At ang gagamitin na dahilan, eh keso kulang ang budget o mahirap yung mga proseso.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po maunawaan nito, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor ng mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: unang-unang, I'd like to go back na sinabi mong hindi nasagot.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sinagot ko po yung katanungan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kasi nga po, hindi naman nakalagak yan sa DOLE per se.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga po hinihingi ng aming Departamento.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Again, I'm sure you're familiar, alam mo po yung proseso, Congressman Eli,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hindi basta-basta ay pipwedeng ikaw ay maglagay lamang ng ating mga inspectors.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It has to go through the process, DBM, so on and so forth.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And yun po ay sinagot po natin nung ulang statement po agad natin.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon, patukol naman ito, eh.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon, patukol naman doon sa ating mga pasweldo ng ating mga ano,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: based doon sa records po namin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung 524 million na pasweldo natin,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: P.S.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: mas mataas po kesa doon sa ating

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: P.S. pa lang po ang binibilang natin dito, Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So kapag sinuma natin, mas malaki pa rin ang admin cost ng tupad

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kaysa sa pasweldo ng mga labor inspector.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pasweldo? Ano pa yung admin?

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04:22:16.020 --> 04:22:19.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes. It is the part of the...

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: parte po yun nung sa ating sweldo, Madam Speaker,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga po, yun po ang binabigit po.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kasi admin cost po kasi is 5%. Diba?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama po. Nasa special provision. Tama po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes. That's correct.

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04:22:29.020 --> 04:22:33.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya ang pinupunto po ng kinatawang ito, eh bakit mas malaki ang hinihinging budget

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04:22:33.020 --> 04:22:37.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng DOLE Office of the Secretary sa tupad,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 5% of which mapupunta sa admin cost,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: samantalang napakalaki ng problema at pangangailangan sa mga labor inspector.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: This is what I'm pointing about.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang daming dapat nai-inspect ng mga business establishments

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04:22:51.020 --> 04:22:54.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pero mas pinipili ng Department of Labor and Employment

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na maglagak sa tupad.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Eh paano matitiyak na napoproteksyonan ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung puro tupad ang Department of Labor and Employment?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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04:23:08.020 --> 04:23:10.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga po kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining doon sa ating tupad,

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04:23:12.020 --> 04:23:14.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it is not only per se na tupad.

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04:23:14.020 --> 04:23:18.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Binanggit niyo po yan sa ating Government Internship Program.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero pag sino matutal mo po, hindi naman po kami nagkulang pertaining sa ating pinaglalaban.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I agree with you. Bakit?

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04:23:24.020 --> 04:23:28.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga po kami nagre-request ng karagdagan.

asr-003682
04:23:28.020 --> 04:23:33.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That was clear as day na sana kung kami ay tutulungan ng kapulungan na ito

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04:23:33.020 --> 04:23:35.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasama ang Senado at ating national budget,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kaya nga po ang kinakailangan na plantilya positions

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: based sa ating statement nung ating budget healing

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay 9,000 na labor inspectors ang kailangan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it is very very difficult to balance everything.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming pangangailangan pero ito ay kapos lamang.

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04:23:55.020 --> 04:23:58.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming mandato ang ating Departamento.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, magbigay ng trabaho.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pangalawa, to secure the safetiness of our workers in every aspect possible.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So sabi ko nga po, hindi naman tayo magkakaroon ng malaking problema

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung ito ay sapat yung ating pondo.

asr-003695
04:24:13.020 --> 04:24:16.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But, kahit hindi po sapat yung pondo namin,

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04:24:16.020 --> 04:24:19.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito po ay nagagampanan naman namin yung aming trabaho.

asr-003697
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan ay based dun sa results ng ating mga performance sa NLRC,

asr-003698
04:24:23.020 --> 04:24:26.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating mga patrabaho, sa job start.

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04:24:26.020 --> 04:24:32.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In fact, nung September 14, nagkaroon po tayo ng nationwide na programa

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04:24:32.020 --> 04:24:34.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating Department of Labor and Employment.

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04:24:34.020 --> 04:24:39.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So again, we are not just focused o di lang kami nagtutuon sa isang programa.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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04:24:41.020 --> 04:24:47.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, hindi nga po nagtutugma yung binabanggit nyo

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04:24:47.020 --> 04:24:50.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa budget allocation ng DOLE.

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04:24:50.020 --> 04:24:54.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sinasabi nyo napakaraming responsibilidad ng DOLE.

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04:24:54.020 --> 04:24:59.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero malaking bahagdan ay napupunta nga doon sa TUPAD.

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04:24:59.020 --> 04:25:04.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So hindi po sinagot ng distinguished sponsor natin yung problema ang hinaharap.

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04:25:04.020 --> 04:25:07.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sinasabi nyo po, kailangan dagdagan ng budget.

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04:25:07.020 --> 04:25:08.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Eh bakit hindi natin gawin?

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04:25:09.020 --> 04:25:13.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ilagak yung mas malaking bahagi na nilaalaan natin doon sa TUPAD,

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04:25:13.020 --> 04:25:17.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ibigay natin doon sa ibang mandato at functions.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sinagot ko po kanina, with all due respect,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi ka po pa pwedeng maglagay ng labor inspectors first.

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04:25:27.020 --> 04:25:30.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kahit may pondo ka po, kinakailangan may plantilla positions first.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That I understand, Mr. Sponsor.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So would you agree with me that at the appropriate time,

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04:25:36.020 --> 04:25:39.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: magkakaroon ng amyenda sa budget,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor and Employment, Office of the Secretary,

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04:25:42.020 --> 04:25:47.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at ilagak natin sa iba pang functions ng Department of Labor and Employment,

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04:25:47.020 --> 04:25:49.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: instead of putting it all together,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: more than half of the budget sa TUPAD?

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04:25:51.020 --> 04:25:52.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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04:25:52.020 --> 04:25:55.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam po nyo, as I've mentioned earlier,

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04:25:55.020 --> 04:25:58.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang Departamento ay lagi sumusunod sa batas.

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04:25:58.020 --> 04:26:01.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ang Kongreso, na sinasabi nyo po, I will quote you,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na pag kayo ay nilipat mo yung pondo,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we will adhere to the wisdom of both houses,

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04:26:08.020 --> 04:26:10.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of both houses of Congress.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's all, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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04:26:12.020 --> 04:26:13.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Tama po yun.

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04:26:13.020 --> 04:26:18.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kongreso ang naglalagak at nagde-desisyon sa budget.

asr-003733
04:26:18.020 --> 04:26:22.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero kung titignan natin, kahit Kongreso ang naglalagak sa budget,

asr-003734
04:26:22.020 --> 04:26:26.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: makikita natin ang DOLE nagre-request pa rin

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04:26:26.020 --> 04:26:29.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mas malaki batay doon sa benchmark

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04:26:29.020 --> 04:26:32.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng nakaraang pondo sa TUPAD.

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04:26:32.020 --> 04:26:36.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya pinapatibay lang nito ang pondo, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

asr-003738
04:26:36.020 --> 04:26:41.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na mas focused ang DOLE sa TUPAD kaysa sa ibang functions nito.

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04:26:41.020 --> 04:26:44.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sunod na po na tanong, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Noong September 7, pinirmahan ang Wage Order No. 28.

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04:26:49.020 --> 04:26:52.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa proseso ng paglalabas ng Wage Order,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dapat may public hearing.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dapat gawin ang nakasulat sa Rule 3, Section 3C of the Omnibus Guidelines on Minimum Wage,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Determination.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And I quote,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The chairperson shall make a preliminary statement

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04:27:15.020 --> 04:27:20.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to apprise the attendees of the purposes of the public hearing,

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04:27:20.020 --> 04:27:26.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: such as to thresh out petitions for wage increase filed,

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04:27:26.020 --> 04:27:29.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: assess the socio-economic condition in the region,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: gather relevant data and information prior to the issuance of a wage order.

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04:27:34.020 --> 04:27:38.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So ibig sabihin, pag nagkaroon ng public consultation or hearing,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dapat i-apprise ng chairperson ng Regional Wage Board

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04:27:43.020 --> 04:27:47.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga attendees kung saan, patungkol saan ang meeting.

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04:27:47.020 --> 04:27:52.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Question, ginawa ba ito ng Regional Wage Board, Department of Labor and Employment?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes, patungkol po sa Wage Order No. 28.

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04:28:02.020 --> 04:28:05.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I have with me doon sa September 2 notice of meeting.

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04:28:05.020 --> 04:28:10.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At nakalagay po dito, I'd like to, if you will allow me, Distinguished Colleague.

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04:28:10.020 --> 04:28:13.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, the venue will be at the Occupational Safety and Health Center.

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04:28:13.020 --> 04:28:16.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan po yung patawag. Tama po ba?

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, that's correct.

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04:28:17.020 --> 04:28:20.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Okay po, sa agenda po tayo at doon particular sa tanong ko,

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04:28:20.020 --> 04:28:27.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: inapprise ba ng Regional Director ng DOLE-NCR ang mga attendees tungkol saan ang meeting?

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04:28:27.020 --> 04:28:30.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is a very simple question to the DOLE.

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04:28:30.020 --> 04:28:31.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes.

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04:28:31.020 --> 04:28:34.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yes, okay po, Mr. Sponsor.

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04:28:34.020 --> 04:28:39.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pwede po bang ibaling ko ang inyong atensyon sa video na makikita natin ngayon?

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04:28:41.020 --> 04:28:42.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pakiplay po.

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04:29:01.020 --> 04:29:04.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat po. Pwede na pong itigil yan.

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04:29:04.020 --> 04:29:11.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I am quoting directly the Department of Labor and Employment-NCR Regional Director.

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04:29:11.020 --> 04:29:16.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: We questioned DOLE during that time tungkol saan ang meeting na ito.

asr-003771
04:29:16.020 --> 04:29:20.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ano ang sagot ng Regional Director, Department of Labor and Employment?

asr-003772
04:29:20.020 --> 04:29:25.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pinupulsuhan lang naman namin ang mga manggagawa.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: There was no mention whatsoever about a wage order.

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04:29:30.020 --> 04:29:32.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

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04:29:32.020 --> 04:29:41.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker and distinguished colleagues, let me first finish doon sa ating binabasa ko kanina, naputol po kasi.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, naiintindihan na po namin yan kasi yan po yung sasabihin doon sa inbitasyon.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos na po ako sa inbitasyon, nandoon na po ako sa appraisal ng DOLE-NCR Regional Director.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Inapprise niya ba yung mga attendees sa public consultation?

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04:30:13.980 --> 04:30:15.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

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04:30:15.440 --> 04:30:16.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

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04:30:16.220 --> 04:30:17.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I just got the information

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04:30:17.680 --> 04:30:19.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that the answer is yes.

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04:30:19.960 --> 04:30:20.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And sinabi naman po

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating Regional Director...

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04:30:21.840 --> 04:30:22.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

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04:30:22.900 --> 04:30:23.720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I will cut you there

asr-003790
04:30:23.720 --> 04:30:24.760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil naiintindihan ko po

asr-003791
04:30:24.760 --> 04:30:25.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang posisyon nyo.

asr-003792
04:30:26.300 --> 04:30:28.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: But the Regional Director of NCR

asr-003793
04:30:28.400 --> 04:30:30.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is lying through his teeth.

asr-003794
04:30:32.920 --> 04:30:34.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: We questioned you up front.

asr-003795
04:30:37.920 --> 04:30:39.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Wala po siyang sinabi,

asr-003796
04:30:39.840 --> 04:30:42.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

asr-003797
04:30:42.420 --> 04:30:43.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor.

asr-003798
04:30:44.080 --> 04:30:45.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang binanggit po ay,

asr-003799
04:30:45.640 --> 04:30:46.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nandun po ang kinatawang ito

asr-003800
04:30:46.980 --> 04:30:48.320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and we have video proof.

asr-003801
04:30:49.660 --> 04:30:51.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pinupulsuhan lang naman namin

asr-003802
04:30:51.440 --> 04:30:53.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang mga manggagawa.

asr-003803
04:30:53.480 --> 04:30:55.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nilabag kung anong nakasulat

asr-003804
04:30:55.260 --> 04:30:56.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa omnibus rules

asr-003805
04:30:56.440 --> 04:30:58.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: on minimum wage determination.

asr-003806
04:30:58.400 --> 04:31:01.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

asr-003807
04:31:02.260 --> 04:31:03.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dole is lying

asr-003808
04:31:03.220 --> 04:31:05.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: here in this August Chamber.

asr-003809
04:31:07.140 --> 04:31:08.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And I demand,

asr-003810
04:31:08.460 --> 04:31:08.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: we demand

asr-003811
04:31:08.920 --> 04:31:11.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the copy of the minutes

asr-003812
04:31:11.400 --> 04:31:12.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the meeting

asr-003813
04:31:12.160 --> 04:31:14.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that was conducted that time

asr-003814
04:31:14.360 --> 04:31:16.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and we will challenge that.

asr-003815
04:31:16.840 --> 04:31:17.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Especially coming from

asr-003816
04:31:17.920 --> 04:31:18.800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the Regional Director

asr-003817
04:31:18.800 --> 04:31:20.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of Dole NCR.

asr-003818
04:31:21.780 --> 04:31:22.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-003819
04:31:22.880 --> 04:31:23.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-003820
04:31:24.180 --> 04:31:25.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hiningi po nyo

asr-003821
04:31:25.120 --> 04:31:26.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating kasamahan,

asr-003822
04:31:27.000 --> 04:31:28.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating minutes.

asr-003823
04:31:28.400 --> 04:31:29.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: During the September 2

asr-003824
04:31:29.360 --> 04:31:29.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: public hearing.

asr-003825
04:31:30.440 --> 04:31:32.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And we will oblige to that,

asr-003826
04:31:32.580 --> 04:31:33.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Your Honor,

asr-003827
04:31:33.300 --> 04:31:33.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague.

asr-003828
04:31:34.080 --> 04:31:34.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you po.

asr-003829
04:31:35.080 --> 04:31:35.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sige,

asr-003830
04:31:36.100 --> 04:31:36.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kunwari na lang,

asr-003831
04:31:37.640 --> 04:31:38.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kahit harap-harap

asr-003832
04:31:38.860 --> 04:31:39.760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang nagsisinungaling

asr-003833
04:31:39.760 --> 04:31:40.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa bulwagang ito,

asr-003834
04:31:41.400 --> 04:31:41.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagawa,

asr-003835
04:31:42.120 --> 04:31:43.280
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o sinunod yung Dole,

asr-003836
04:31:43.820 --> 04:31:44.740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sinunod ng Dole

asr-003837
04:31:44.740 --> 04:31:45.820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung sarili niyang guidelines.

asr-003838
04:31:46.520 --> 04:31:47.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang proseso,

asr-003839
04:31:48.260 --> 04:31:49.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dapat mag-meeting

asr-003840
04:31:49.420 --> 04:31:50.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang National Wages

asr-003841
04:31:50.520 --> 04:31:52.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Productivity Commission

asr-003842
04:31:52.140 --> 04:31:53.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at aprobahan

asr-003843
04:31:53.900 --> 04:31:55.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang bagong wage order.

asr-003844
04:31:56.220 --> 04:31:56.600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Question,

asr-003845
04:31:57.560 --> 04:31:58.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagkaroon ba

asr-003846
04:31:58.160 --> 04:31:58.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng inyong

asr-003847
04:31:58.400 --> 04:31:59.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: NWPC meeting?

asr-003848
04:32:00.520 --> 04:32:01.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: What date, sir?

asr-003849
04:32:02.160 --> 04:32:02.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: September?

asr-003850
04:32:03.040 --> 04:32:03.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: No, I'm asking

asr-003851
04:32:03.960 --> 04:32:05.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the Department of Labor

asr-003852
04:32:05.140 --> 04:32:05.720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment,

asr-003853
04:32:05.800 --> 04:32:06.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

asr-003854
04:32:06.560 --> 04:32:07.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagkaroon ba ng meeting

asr-003855
04:32:07.780 --> 04:32:09.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang National Wages

asr-003856
04:32:09.140 --> 04:32:10.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Productivity Commission?

asr-003857
04:32:10.640 --> 04:32:10.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes.

asr-003858
04:32:11.320 --> 04:32:12.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: When was the meeting held?

asr-003859
04:32:14.260 --> 04:32:15.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, yung nga po,

asr-003860
04:32:15.100 --> 04:32:15.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: September 10.

asr-003861
04:32:15.760 --> 04:32:16.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: September 10.

asr-003862
04:32:16.440 --> 04:32:16.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Where?

asr-003863
04:32:21.640 --> 04:32:22.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It's

asr-003864
04:32:22.240 --> 04:32:23.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Room 206,

asr-003865
04:32:24.020 --> 04:32:24.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Manila Hotel.

asr-003866
04:32:24.820 --> 04:32:25.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ayan!

asr-003867
04:32:26.200 --> 04:32:27.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Let me direct your attention,

asr-003868
04:32:27.560 --> 04:32:28.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

asr-003869
04:32:28.400 --> 04:32:29.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or Madam Speaker,

asr-003870
04:32:29.560 --> 04:32:30.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to this video.

asr-003871
04:32:30.140 --> 04:32:30.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you.

asr-003872
04:32:36.280 --> 04:32:44.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang patawag po

asr-003873
04:32:44.840 --> 04:32:45.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na meeting

asr-003874
04:32:45.560 --> 04:32:47.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay dapat sa

asr-003875
04:32:47.220 --> 04:32:47.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: The Urum

asr-003876
04:32:47.860 --> 04:32:49.600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Manila Hotel.

asr-003877
04:32:50.860 --> 04:32:51.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pumunta kami

asr-003878
04:32:51.620 --> 04:32:53.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 1pm

asr-003879
04:32:53.140 --> 04:32:55.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para imbitahin

asr-003880
04:32:55.300 --> 04:32:56.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng aming sarili

asr-003881
04:32:56.060 --> 04:32:57.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil ang pinag-uusapan

asr-003882
04:32:57.120 --> 04:32:57.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng National Wages

asr-003883
04:32:57.940 --> 04:32:59.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Productivity Commission

asr-003884
04:32:59.240 --> 04:33:01.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay tungkol sa sahod

asr-003885
04:33:01.000 --> 04:33:02.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga manggagawa.

asr-003886
04:33:02.820 --> 04:33:04.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero wala kaming nadatnan

asr-003887
04:33:04.360 --> 04:33:05.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga tao

asr-003888
04:33:05.980 --> 04:33:06.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dun sa meeting.

asr-003889
04:33:06.840 --> 04:33:07.820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At binabanggit po

asr-003890
04:33:07.820 --> 04:33:08.720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng sponsor,

asr-003891
04:33:09.180 --> 04:33:09.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagkaroon daw

asr-003892
04:33:09.980 --> 04:33:10.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng meeting,

asr-003893
04:33:11.340 --> 04:33:12.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

asr-003894
04:33:12.640 --> 04:33:13.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa ibang room.

asr-003895
04:33:14.300 --> 04:33:15.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, itinatago

asr-003896
04:33:15.340 --> 04:33:16.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor

asr-003897
04:33:16.900 --> 04:33:17.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment

asr-003898
04:33:17.620 --> 04:33:18.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung meeting na ito.

asr-003899
04:33:19.340 --> 04:33:20.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Isa pang punto,

asr-003900
04:33:20.100 --> 04:33:20.720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

asr-003901
04:33:22.260 --> 04:33:23.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagsayang

asr-003902
04:33:23.180 --> 04:33:24.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Department of Labor

asr-003903
04:33:24.780 --> 04:33:25.700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment

asr-003904
04:33:25.700 --> 04:33:26.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng pondo

asr-003905
04:33:26.480 --> 04:33:26.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga manggagawa

asr-003907
04:33:27.940 --> 04:33:29.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Para sa isang meeting

asr-003908
04:33:29.080 --> 04:33:30.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na hindi naman naganap

asr-003909
04:33:30.380 --> 04:33:31.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa original

asr-003910
04:33:31.620 --> 04:33:33.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na dapat nitong pagganapan.

asr-003911
04:33:34.420 --> 04:33:35.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos ang sasabihin natin,

asr-003912
04:33:36.020 --> 04:33:37.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: we have very limited

asr-003913
04:33:37.160 --> 04:33:38.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: fiscal space.

asr-003914
04:33:39.120 --> 04:33:40.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Naglulustay ng pondo

asr-003915
04:33:40.400 --> 04:33:41.600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Department of Labor

asr-003916
04:33:41.600 --> 04:33:42.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment.

asr-003917
04:33:43.120 --> 04:33:44.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tinago sa mga manggagawa

asr-003918
04:33:44.860 --> 04:33:47.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang meeting na ito.

asr-003919
04:33:47.880 --> 04:33:48.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang sasabihin nila,

asr-003920
04:33:48.880 --> 04:33:49.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

asr-003921
04:33:49.600 --> 04:33:50.280
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

asr-003922
04:33:50.640 --> 04:33:51.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: confidential naman daw

asr-003923
04:33:51.980 --> 04:33:52.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang meeting.

asr-003924
04:33:52.860 --> 04:33:54.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: We cannot accept

asr-003925
04:33:54.180 --> 04:33:55.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that excuse.

asr-003926
04:33:55.900 --> 04:33:56.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tinataguan

asr-003927
04:33:56.540 --> 04:33:57.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng dole

asr-003928
04:33:57.340 --> 04:33:57.820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang mga manggagawa.

asr-003929
04:33:57.940 --> 04:34:02.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Can I respond,

asr-003930
04:34:02.220 --> 04:34:02.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-003931
04:34:02.720 --> 04:34:03.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague?

asr-003932
04:34:05.360 --> 04:34:05.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes,

asr-003933
04:34:06.200 --> 04:34:07.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: patukoy naman doon

asr-003934
04:34:07.280 --> 04:34:07.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa meeting na sinabinabanggit

asr-003935
04:34:08.460 --> 04:34:08.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating kasamahan.

asr-003936
04:34:10.180 --> 04:34:11.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ang tugon po natin dyan,

asr-003937
04:34:11.880 --> 04:34:12.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yes,

asr-003938
04:34:12.440 --> 04:34:13.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it really happened.

asr-003939
04:34:14.100 --> 04:34:14.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And two,

asr-003940
04:34:14.980 --> 04:34:17.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para sa ating kaalaman

asr-003941
04:34:17.000 --> 04:34:17.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o kalinawan

asr-003942
04:34:17.580 --> 04:34:19.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating mga kasamahan

asr-003943
04:34:19.180 --> 04:34:20.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at baka rin nanunood

asr-003944
04:34:20.340 --> 04:34:20.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating mga

asr-003945
04:34:20.980 --> 04:34:22.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ngayong araw na ito,

asr-003946
04:34:22.760 --> 04:34:23.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay hindi po namin

asr-003947
04:34:23.380 --> 04:34:24.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tinatago

asr-003948
04:34:24.100 --> 04:34:25.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung nasabing meeting.

asr-003949
04:34:25.600 --> 04:34:25.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In fact,

asr-003950
04:34:26.620 --> 04:34:27.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga,

asr-003951
04:34:27.340 --> 04:34:28.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung pag-transfer

asr-003952
04:34:28.480 --> 04:34:31.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng room

asr-003953
04:34:31.120 --> 04:34:31.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay because of

asr-003954
04:34:31.800 --> 04:34:32.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: some disruptions.

asr-003955
04:34:33.340 --> 04:34:34.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Disruption!

asr-003956
04:34:35.200 --> 04:34:35.500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes,

asr-003957
04:34:36.000 --> 04:34:36.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: so,

asr-003958
04:34:36.680 --> 04:34:36.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung

asr-003959
04:34:36.940 --> 04:34:38.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: September 10,

asr-003960
04:34:38.300 --> 04:34:38.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 2026

asr-003961
04:34:38.960 --> 04:34:40.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: NWPC Review Meeting

asr-003962
04:34:40.520 --> 04:34:41.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: legally valid

asr-003963
04:34:41.620 --> 04:34:42.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: despite the shortened notice

asr-003964
04:34:42.900 --> 04:34:43.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to transfer from

asr-003965
04:34:43.740 --> 04:34:44.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that dao room

asr-003966
04:34:44.560 --> 04:34:45.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to room 260

asr-003967
04:34:45.720 --> 04:34:47.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of the Manero Hotel.

asr-003968
04:34:47.540 --> 04:34:47.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon,

asr-003969
04:34:47.940 --> 04:34:48.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sasabihin po,

asr-003970
04:34:49.480 --> 04:34:50.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: naririnig ko po kayo,

asr-003971
04:34:50.180 --> 04:34:50.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

asr-003972
04:34:51.040 --> 04:34:51.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and

asr-003973
04:34:51.200 --> 04:34:54.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: siguro mas maganda

asr-003974
04:34:54.320 --> 04:34:54.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay para

asr-003975
04:34:54.820 --> 04:34:56.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi mo po sinasabi

asr-003976
04:34:56.600 --> 04:34:57.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kami po ay

asr-003977
04:34:57.300 --> 04:34:57.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: mag-transfer.

asr-003978
04:34:57.340 --> 04:34:58.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: May tinatago

asr-003979
04:34:58.000 --> 04:34:59.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang Department of Labor

asr-003980
04:34:59.040 --> 04:34:59.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of Employment.

asr-003981
04:35:00.060 --> 04:35:00.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Willing naman po tayo

asr-003982
04:35:00.920 --> 04:35:02.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ilabas yung minutes

asr-003983
04:35:02.140 --> 04:35:04.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nung ating pinag-usapan

asr-003984
04:35:04.180 --> 04:35:04.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: during that

asr-003985
04:35:04.760 --> 04:35:05.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: said meeting.

asr-003986
04:35:05.760 --> 04:35:05.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

asr-003987
04:35:06.720 --> 04:35:07.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para sa kalaman po

asr-003988
04:35:07.580 --> 04:35:08.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng lahat,

asr-003989
04:35:08.540 --> 04:35:09.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi po ito tinatago

asr-003990
04:35:09.740 --> 04:35:10.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o sinasabing

asr-003991
04:35:10.540 --> 04:35:11.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: secret meeting.

asr-003992
04:35:11.500 --> 04:35:11.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Bakit?

asr-003993
04:35:12.060 --> 04:35:13.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kasi present naman po

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04:35:13.100 --> 04:35:14.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating labor groups

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04:35:14.280 --> 04:35:15.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: during those

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04:35:15.220 --> 04:35:15.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: meeting.

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04:35:16.160 --> 04:35:16.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

asr-003998
04:35:17.020 --> 04:35:18.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: makikita rin po natin yan

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04:35:18.200 --> 04:35:19.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun sa ating minutes

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04:35:19.200 --> 04:35:19.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating

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04:35:19.960 --> 04:35:21.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sinabing

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04:35:21.320 --> 04:35:22.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: September 10

asr-004003
04:35:22.080 --> 04:35:22.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: meeting.

asr-004004
04:35:23.480 --> 04:35:24.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's all,

asr-004005
04:35:24.360 --> 04:35:24.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-004006
04:35:25.060 --> 04:35:25.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague.

asr-004007
04:35:25.540 --> 04:35:26.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor,

asr-004008
04:35:26.200 --> 04:35:27.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

asr-004009
04:35:27.340 --> 04:35:29.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po katanggap-tanggap

asr-004010
04:35:29.860 --> 04:35:31.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang excuse

asr-004011
04:35:31.560 --> 04:35:32.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor

asr-004012
04:35:32.920 --> 04:35:33.700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment.

asr-004013
04:35:34.360 --> 04:35:35.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi nyo po,

asr-004014
04:35:35.560 --> 04:35:36.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: merong labor groups

asr-004015
04:35:36.500 --> 04:35:37.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na present

asr-004016
04:35:37.100 --> 04:35:37.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nandoon

asr-004017
04:35:37.780 --> 04:35:38.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang buong National Wage

asr-004018
04:35:38.940 --> 04:35:39.700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Coalition.

asr-004019
04:35:40.640 --> 04:35:41.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tinaguan

asr-004020
04:35:41.220 --> 04:35:42.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Department of Labor

asr-004021
04:35:42.380 --> 04:35:43.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment.

asr-004022
04:35:43.760 --> 04:35:44.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At ang punto dito,

asr-004023
04:35:45.480 --> 04:35:46.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kung nagkaroon man

asr-004024
04:35:46.240 --> 04:35:47.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng ibang meeting

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04:35:47.100 --> 04:35:48.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa same venue,

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04:35:49.120 --> 04:35:50.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nagsasayang kayo

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04:35:50.040 --> 04:35:50.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng pondo

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04:35:50.660 --> 04:35:52.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para pagtaguan

asr-004029
04:35:52.060 --> 04:35:53.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga manggagawa.

asr-004030
04:35:53.800 --> 04:35:55.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

asr-004031
04:35:55.600 --> 04:35:56.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang binabanggit po nila

asr-004032
04:35:56.680 --> 04:35:57.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: disruptor.

asr-004033
04:35:57.340 --> 04:35:58.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang mga manggagawa.

asr-004034
04:35:58.380 --> 04:35:59.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nanggugulo daw

asr-004035
04:35:59.340 --> 04:36:00.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang mga manggagawa,

asr-004036
04:36:00.340 --> 04:36:01.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker.

asr-004037
04:36:02.180 --> 04:36:03.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: We are not disrupting anything.

asr-004038
04:36:03.940 --> 04:36:04.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact,

asr-004039
04:36:04.840 --> 04:36:05.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the Executive Director

asr-004040
04:36:05.940 --> 04:36:06.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of National Wages

asr-004041
04:36:06.840 --> 04:36:08.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Productivity Commission

asr-004042
04:36:08.640 --> 04:36:09.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: denied

asr-004043
04:36:09.840 --> 04:36:10.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to receive

asr-004044
04:36:10.440 --> 04:36:11.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: our letter,

asr-004045
04:36:11.240 --> 04:36:13.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: our position paper.

asr-004046
04:36:13.440 --> 04:36:14.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At ang lakas ng loob

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04:36:14.500 --> 04:36:15.600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor

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04:36:15.600 --> 04:36:16.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Employment

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04:36:16.140 --> 04:36:17.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na sabihin,

asr-004050
04:36:17.100 --> 04:36:17.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: may disruption

asr-004051
04:36:17.940 --> 04:36:18.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kaya lumipat sila

asr-004052
04:36:18.840 --> 04:36:20.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng meeting.

asr-004053
04:36:20.140 --> 04:36:21.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Simple lang ang punto,

asr-004054
04:36:21.380 --> 04:36:22.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker.

asr-004055
04:36:23.040 --> 04:36:24.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Itinatago ng Department

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04:36:24.500 --> 04:36:25.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of Labor and Employment

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04:36:25.920 --> 04:36:27.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung pulong tungkol sa

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04:36:27.140 --> 04:36:28.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sahod ng mga manggagawa

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04:36:28.640 --> 04:36:29.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na sila-sila lang

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04:36:29.640 --> 04:36:30.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang nag-uusap.

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04:36:30.640 --> 04:36:31.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Last question,

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04:36:31.640 --> 04:36:32.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker,

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04:36:32.640 --> 04:36:34.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor.

asr-004064
04:36:35.140 --> 04:36:36.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi sa Wage Order

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04:36:36.640 --> 04:36:38.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: number 28,

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04:36:39.640 --> 04:36:42.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Wage Order number 27

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04:36:42.140 --> 04:36:44.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: never took effect.

asr-004068
04:36:45.140 --> 04:36:47.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In popular parlance,

asr-004069
04:36:47.640 --> 04:36:49.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: panaginip

asr-004070
04:36:49.140 --> 04:36:51.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o guni-guni lang daw

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04:36:51.140 --> 04:36:53.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang 85 pesos na dagdag-sahod.

asr-004072
04:36:54.140 --> 04:36:55.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Chapter 3,

asr-004073
04:36:55.140 --> 04:36:56.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Section 4 of the IRR,

asr-004074
04:36:56.980 --> 04:36:58.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Paro of R.I.6727,

asr-004075
04:36:58.980 --> 04:36:59.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: any wage order

asr-004076
04:36:59.980 --> 04:37:01.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: shall take effect

asr-004077
04:37:01.480 --> 04:37:04.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 15 days after publication.

asr-004078
04:37:04.480 --> 04:37:06.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: July 9, na-publish.

asr-004079
04:37:06.480 --> 04:37:08.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: July 25, effective.

asr-004080
04:37:08.480 --> 04:37:10.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At mismong si Sekretary Tolentino

asr-004081
04:37:10.980 --> 04:37:12.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor and Employment

asr-004082
04:37:12.480 --> 04:37:13.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang nag-announce

asr-004083
04:37:13.980 --> 04:37:15.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng makasaysayan daw

asr-004084
04:37:15.980 --> 04:37:17.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na wage increase.

asr-004085
04:37:17.480 --> 04:37:18.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon,

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04:37:18.480 --> 04:37:19.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: isinusuko ba

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04:37:19.980 --> 04:37:21.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Department of Labor and Employment

asr-004088
04:37:21.980 --> 04:37:24.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang Wage Order No. 27

asr-004089
04:37:24.480 --> 04:37:25.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at pinapalitan na ito

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04:37:25.980 --> 04:37:26.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng Wage Order No.

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04:37:26.980 --> 04:37:27.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 28?

asr-004093
04:37:28.980 --> 04:37:29.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-004094
04:37:29.980 --> 04:37:30.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguse Colleague,

asr-004095
04:37:30.980 --> 04:37:33.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: napakaganda po ng iyong katanungan.

asr-004096
04:37:33.980 --> 04:37:34.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Unang-una, kalinawan po,

asr-004097
04:37:34.980 --> 04:37:39.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung Wage Order No. 27, alam naman po natin at alam din ng ating distinguished colleague na

asr-004098
04:37:40.980 --> 04:37:43.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nagkaroon una ng TRO, pangalawa, nagkaroon ng injunction.

asr-004099
04:37:43.980 --> 04:37:45.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ang tinatanong niyo po

asr-004100
04:37:45.980 --> 04:37:47.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung dini-disregard na po namin ang Wage Order 28?

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04:37:47.980 --> 04:37:49.400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: The answer is no.

asr-004102
04:37:49.400 --> 04:37:51.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo po, ginagalang

asr-004103
04:37:51.980 --> 04:37:52.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng Department

asr-004104
04:37:52.980 --> 04:37:53.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of Labor and Employment

asr-004105
04:37:53.980 --> 04:37:54.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating legal proceedings,

asr-004106
04:37:54.980 --> 04:37:55.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: which we abide by it.

asr-004107
04:37:55.980 --> 04:38:02.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But our official stand, para alam po ng ating mga kababayan at ng ating 1.1 million na manggagawa sa Metro Manila,

asr-004108
04:38:03.680 --> 04:38:10.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi po binibitawan ng Department of Labor and Employment ang Wage Order 27.

asr-004109
04:38:10.340 --> 04:38:21.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In fact, ang ating sekretary pa mismo ang nag-file sa ating mga korte na kung saan ang tindig o opisyal na tindig ng ating Departamento

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04:38:21.720 --> 04:38:30.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: together with the Office of the Solicitor General na dapat ito ay legal kasi walang jurisdiction ang korte

asr-004111
04:38:30.260 --> 04:38:36.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at dapat ito ay ipatupad ng ating mga korts at dapat sana ayaw makialam.

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04:38:36.620 --> 04:38:44.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So in fact, yung ating Wage Order 28 na 60 pesos, and ito po, importanteng-importante po ito, Madam Speaker. Bakit?

asr-004113
04:38:45.480 --> 04:38:48.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung Wage Order 28, 60 pesos.

asr-004114
04:38:49.320 --> 04:38:51.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Doon sa Wage Order 27,

asr-004115
04:38:51.720 --> 04:38:52.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 85 pesos.

asr-004116
04:38:53.260 --> 04:39:02.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero, nakakalimutan banggitin doon lagi na sa Wage Order 27, sa taong 2026, ay it's also 60 pesos.

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04:39:02.520 --> 04:39:05.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Patunay lamang, patapusin mo ako, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004118
04:39:05.640 --> 04:39:13.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sapagkat sa pagkakataong yun, makikita natin na ang Departamento ay nagtatrabaho. Bakit?

asr-004119
04:39:14.640 --> 04:39:20.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Simpleng-simple lang naman, kung kami walang malasakit o hindi ginagampanan ang aming tungkulin,

asr-004120
04:39:20.760 --> 04:39:21.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: [unclear] sana,

asr-004121
04:39:21.720 --> 04:39:24.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pinabayaan na lang namin yung Wage Order 27.

asr-004122
04:39:24.400 --> 04:39:24.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Subalit hindi.

asr-004123
04:39:25.620 --> 04:39:28.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sa mandato na binigay ng Kongreso at Senado at ang taong bayan,

asr-004124
04:39:29.360 --> 04:39:34.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating Wage Board, kumilos, nagpulong, nagpublic hearing,

asr-004125
04:39:34.500 --> 04:39:42.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para sa gayo yung magkaroon ng economic relief o katumbas ng ating 60 pesos na dapat dagdag sa Wage Order number 27.

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04:39:42.960 --> 04:39:47.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So yung Wage Order number 28 is separate from Wage Order 27.

asr-004127
04:39:49.260 --> 04:39:50.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, at least.

asr-004128
04:39:51.080 --> 04:39:51.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you.

asr-004129
04:39:51.720 --> 04:39:55.800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, this is of paramount importance.

asr-004130
04:39:56.260 --> 04:40:02.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At ito po ang pagkakataon, Madam Speaker, na maliwanagan ang milyong-milyong mga manggagawa.

asr-004131
04:40:02.500 --> 04:40:07.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So with the indulgence of our distinguished sponsor and Madam Speaker,

asr-004132
04:40:08.180 --> 04:40:10.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: just a few more questions, Madam Speaker.

asr-004133
04:40:10.820 --> 04:40:11.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Just one more question.

asr-004134
04:40:12.160 --> 04:40:13.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Clarification on that matter.

asr-004135
04:40:14.500 --> 04:40:20.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Binabanggit po ng Department of Labor and Employment na hindi isinusuko ang Wage Order 27,

asr-004136
04:40:20.020 --> 04:40:21.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: but in effect,

asr-004137
04:40:21.200 --> 04:40:22.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sinusuko nila.

asr-004138
04:40:22.800 --> 04:40:23.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Malinaw ang sinasabi.

asr-004139
04:40:24.360 --> 04:40:26.720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: If there is no bond, there is no injunction.

asr-004140
04:40:27.140 --> 04:40:28.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is the rules of court.

asr-004141
04:40:29.380 --> 04:40:33.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Walang legal impediment, sabi ng Office of the Secretary General,

asr-004142
04:40:33.880 --> 04:40:36.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para ipatupad ang Wage Order 27.

asr-004143
04:40:36.580 --> 04:40:44.740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Binabanggit ng distinguished sponsor, ipatutupad ang Wage Order 28 bilang pamamaraan para ibigay sa mga manggagawa

asr-004144
04:40:44.740 --> 04:40:49.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung 60 pesos mula doon sa first tranche.

asr-004145
04:40:49.460 --> 04:40:51.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero hindi po yun ang punto.

asr-004146
04:40:51.200 --> 04:40:57.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mula July 25, dahil walang hurisdiksyon ang Korte, kayo na po mismo ang nagsabi.

asr-004147
04:40:57.800 --> 04:41:02.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Dapat matanggap na ng bawat isang minimum wage earner yung 60 pesos.

asr-004148
04:41:02.680 --> 04:41:07.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ibig sabihin, may kakulangan, may utang sa mga manggagawa na mahigit 3,000 piso.

asr-004149
04:41:07.980 --> 04:41:10.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ito po ang binabanggit natin, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

asr-004150
04:41:11.640 --> 04:41:16.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po maaaring isuplant ng Wage Order 28 yung Wage Order 27.

asr-004151
04:41:16.360 --> 04:41:20.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So ang tanong dito, nilabag na nga ng DOLE.

asr-004152
04:41:20.840 --> 04:41:24.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang sarili niyang guidelines na isang order lang ang ilalabas per year.

asr-004153
04:41:25.780 --> 04:41:31.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos sinasabi niya na gumawa siya ng pamamaraan para maibigay yung unang tranche, 60 pesos.

asr-004154
04:41:32.580 --> 04:41:37.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero kung susumahin natin, 60 pesos lang ang dagdag-saud sa Wage Order 28.

asr-004155
04:41:38.360 --> 04:41:42.800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ibig sabihin po ba, maglalabas ang DOLE ng panibagong Wage Order

asr-004156
04:41:42.800 --> 04:41:47.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para i-cover yung natitira mula doon sa Wage Order 27?

asr-004157
04:41:47.840 --> 04:41:50.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mas pinapagulo ng DOLE.

asr-004158
04:41:50.840 --> 04:41:54.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang kanyang buhay at ang kanyang sarili, pati ang mga manggagawa.

asr-004159
04:41:55.360 --> 04:41:59.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Naiintindihan ko po ang binabanggit ng ating butihing sponsor, Madam Speaker.

asr-004160
04:42:00.080 --> 04:42:01.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sasabihin nila na pamamaraan.

asr-004161
04:42:02.000 --> 04:42:07.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero hindi po makuha ng mga manggagawa ang tindig ng Department of Labor and Employment

asr-004162
04:42:07.100 --> 04:42:11.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na hindi nito bibitawan at isusuko ang Wage Order 27

asr-004163
04:42:11.000 --> 04:42:16.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at ipapatupad nito ang Wage Order 27 na malinaw na nakasulat sa batas.

asr-004164
04:42:16.720 --> 04:42:20.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: DOLE na lang po ang hindi naniniwala na kaya niyang ipatupad.

asr-004165
04:42:20.840 --> 04:42:22.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang Wage Order, Madam Speaker.

asr-004166
04:42:23.060 --> 04:42:25.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Speaker, I will end here.

asr-004167
04:42:26.620 --> 04:42:32.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang aming paniniwala po, kung hindi kayang tindigan ng Department of Labor and Employment

asr-004168
04:42:32.180 --> 04:42:34.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa,

asr-004169
04:42:34.940 --> 04:42:39.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: it is in our firm position that the Department of Labor and Employment

asr-004170
04:42:39.420 --> 04:42:43.320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: should not ask this August Chamber for any budget

asr-004171
04:42:43.320 --> 04:42:47.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil pinakikita at pinatutunayan lang nito sa mga manggagawa

asr-004172
04:42:47.040 --> 04:42:50.820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na ang DOLE ay manhid, inutil at bingi.

asr-004173
04:42:50.840 --> 04:42:53.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa pakiramdam ng mga manggagawa.

asr-004174
04:42:53.520 --> 04:42:56.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Intindihin nyo kung saan nang gagaling ang mga manggagawa.

asr-004175
04:42:56.560 --> 04:42:58.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Para sa inyo, maliit na halaga lang ang 60 pesos.

asr-004176
04:42:59.280 --> 04:43:01.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero sa bawat isang minimum wage earner na naririnig,

asr-004177
04:43:03.000 --> 04:43:07.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang ating diskusyon ngayon, malaking bagay ang 3,000 pisong inagaw

asr-004178
04:43:08.500 --> 04:43:11.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at pinagkait sa mga minimum wage earner.

asr-004179
04:43:11.340 --> 04:43:14.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yun po ang pinatutungkulan ng representasyong ito.

asr-004180
04:43:15.020 --> 04:43:16.700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And at the appropriate time,

asr-004181
04:43:16.700 --> 04:43:20.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: if the Department of Labor and Employment,

asr-004182
04:43:20.840 --> 04:43:22.800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: will not change its position

asr-004183
04:43:22.800 --> 04:43:28.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at mananatili siya na matigas sa kanyang paninindigan

asr-004184
04:43:28.680 --> 04:43:32.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na maglalabas ng bagong wage order sa halip na tindigan

asr-004185
04:43:32.440 --> 04:43:33.720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang lumang wage order,

asr-004186
04:43:34.200 --> 04:43:37.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this representation will make that motion

asr-004187
04:43:37.060 --> 04:43:38.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at the appropriate time

asr-004188
04:43:38.900 --> 04:43:43.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na ilagak na lang natin ang pondo ng Department of Labor and Employment

asr-004189
04:43:43.580 --> 04:43:45.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: excluding TESDA.

asr-004190
04:43:47.200 --> 04:43:50.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ilagak na lang yan sa ibang mga functions

asr-004191
04:43:50.380 --> 04:43:51.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng ating gobyerno.

asr-004192
04:43:52.360 --> 04:43:55.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hindi po napatunayan ng Department of Labor and Employment

asr-004193
04:43:55.440 --> 04:43:58.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na kaya niyang tindigan ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

asr-004194
04:43:58.960 --> 04:44:02.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Sponsor, maraming salamat po sa inyong pagbigyan.

asr-004195
04:44:02.200 --> 04:44:03.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004196
04:44:03.940 --> 04:44:06.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pwede mo ba akong pagbigyan na sagutin yung huling statement mo?

asr-004197
04:44:06.540 --> 04:44:08.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: For the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004198
04:44:09.420 --> 04:44:12.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: alam po ninyo, kanina binanggit ko po

asr-004199
04:44:12.180 --> 04:44:16.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ang posisyon ng Departamento o DOLE

asr-004200
04:44:16.320 --> 04:44:20.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay we impose na tinitindigan po namin

asr-004201
04:44:20.540 --> 04:44:22.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang wage order 27.

asr-004202
04:44:22.840 --> 04:44:25.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Klaro po yun. It's on record na binanggit na po natin.

asr-004203
04:44:25.760 --> 04:44:27.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And kahit tanongin mo po lahat dito,

asr-004204
04:44:27.640 --> 04:44:29.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung po ay on record.

asr-004205
04:44:29.760 --> 04:44:31.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya't hindi po namin pipwedeng tanggapin

asr-004206
04:44:31.380 --> 04:44:35.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: with all due respect to my friend, Congressman Eli,

asr-004207
04:44:36.300 --> 04:44:38.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sapagkat sabi ko nga rin kanina,

asr-004208
04:44:38.980 --> 04:44:42.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung kami talaga ay walang malasakit sa ating mga manggagawa,

asr-004209
04:44:43.060 --> 04:44:45.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: alisana kami po ay hindi na po kumilos.

asr-004210
04:44:45.600 --> 04:44:46.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Subalit,

asr-004211
04:44:46.120 --> 04:44:48.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga kanina sa pangungunan ng ating bagong sekretary,

asr-004212
04:44:49.740 --> 04:44:52.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we respect the legal proceedings.

asr-004213
04:44:52.800 --> 04:44:53.400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan, alam mo yan.

asr-004214
04:44:54.800 --> 04:44:55.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo yan.

asr-004215
04:44:56.260 --> 04:44:56.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nakumbakit.

asr-004216
04:44:57.880 --> 04:44:59.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero pinaninindigan po namin

asr-004217
04:45:00.000 --> 04:45:05.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ang Wage Order 27, we cannot prejudge kung ano sasabihin ng ating hudikotura.

asr-004218
04:45:06.520 --> 04:45:07.500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nire-respeto namin yan.

asr-004219
04:45:07.680 --> 04:45:10.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero ang sabi namin nga noon ng Dolly at Office ng OSG,

asr-004220
04:45:11.120 --> 04:45:15.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay dapat ito ay implemented ng July 2025 o 2026,

asr-004221
04:45:15.840 --> 04:45:18.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na dapat hindi nakikialam ang Korte.

asr-004222
04:45:18.600 --> 04:45:20.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At yan naman po, alam mo rin po yan,

asr-004223
04:45:20.680 --> 04:45:24.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na klaro sa Article 126 ng Labor Code na yun ang ating sinasabi.

asr-004224
04:45:25.180 --> 04:45:27.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya sabi ko nga, Madam Speaker, for clarification,

asr-004225
04:45:27.060 --> 04:45:31.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa lahat na nakikinig ng ating mga gawa na 1.1 million sa NCR.

asr-004226
04:45:32.600 --> 04:45:39.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Una, yung 60 pesos po ng Wage 27 at 28 ay identical.

asr-004227
04:45:40.320 --> 04:45:42.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pag sinabi mong nabawasan, hindi po.

asr-004228
04:45:42.920 --> 04:45:46.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I would like to quote you, my friend, Ellie, simple math.

asr-004229
04:45:47.140 --> 04:45:50.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 60 minus 60 is the same value.

asr-004230
04:45:52.300 --> 04:45:54.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon kung tatanungin mo, kanina,

asr-004231
04:45:54.560 --> 04:45:57.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung magre-release na naman ng Wage,

asr-004232
04:45:57.060 --> 04:46:00.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang Wage Order para ito ay sa susunod na mga hakbang.

asr-004233
04:46:00.800 --> 04:46:02.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And I know na alam mo po yan,

asr-004234
04:46:02.740 --> 04:46:04.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para klaro po sa ating nakikinig,

asr-004235
04:46:04.820 --> 04:46:06.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi marami po yan at malaki po yan.

asr-004236
04:46:07.340 --> 04:46:10.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung 60 pesos na po yun, pag minultiply mo sa 26 days,

asr-004237
04:46:10.680 --> 04:46:12.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that's 1,560.

asr-004238
04:46:13.240 --> 04:46:15.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, inaamin ng Dolly at ng Wage Board

asr-004239
04:46:15.680 --> 04:46:21.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hindi lahat ng problema ay masusulusyonan doon sa 1,560.

asr-004240
04:46:21.720 --> 04:46:22.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero malaking bagay ito.

asr-004241
04:46:23.140 --> 04:46:25.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ito po, uulitin ko po, for the record,

asr-004242
04:46:25.420 --> 04:46:26.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay tinitindigan.

asr-004243
04:46:27.060 --> 04:46:30.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nang Departamento kasama ang OSG.

asr-004244
04:46:31.260 --> 04:46:37.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sabi ko nga po, once that document from the Judiciary,

asr-004245
04:46:37.780 --> 04:46:40.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: binanggit na lang ating mahal na Secretary Francis Torrentino,

asr-004246
04:46:41.240 --> 04:46:43.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ipapatupad po natin ang mga Wage Orders

asr-004247
04:46:43.780 --> 04:46:47.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ating pinanilindigan para sa ating mga manggagawa

asr-004248
04:46:47.020 --> 04:46:50.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa NCR o sa buong Pilipinas sa mga darating na panahon.

asr-004249
04:46:51.080 --> 04:46:52.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sana ay kahit pa paano,

asr-004250
04:46:52.600 --> 04:46:56.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nasagot namin yung itanong Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-004251
04:46:57.060 --> 04:46:59.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

asr-004252
04:46:59.280 --> 04:47:03.320
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much, Congressman Eli San Fernando.

asr-004253
04:47:03.460 --> 04:47:04.160
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader?

asr-004254
04:47:05.380 --> 04:47:07.260
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

asr-004255
04:47:07.260 --> 04:47:10.520
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: the Honorable Antonio Tinio of the ACT Teachers Party-list

asr-004256
04:47:10.520 --> 04:47:12.620
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: to interpolate on the proposed budget.

asr-004257
04:47:13.300 --> 04:47:15.960
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tinio is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

asr-004258
04:47:17.720 --> 04:47:19.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker,

asr-004259
04:47:20.820 --> 04:47:24.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Distinguished Sponsor at sa Department of Labor and Employment.

asr-004260
04:47:24.220 --> 04:47:25.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilang mga katanungan po.

asr-004261
04:47:26.400 --> 04:47:27.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, of course,

asr-004262
04:47:27.060 --> 04:47:31.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: una, dahil ahensya po ito ng Department of Labor and Employment,

asr-004263
04:47:31.360 --> 04:47:35.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course, ang tanong natin ay kaugnay sa sahod.

asr-004264
04:47:37.160 --> 04:47:42.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At dapat meron po tayong graphic dyan.

asr-004265
04:47:44.480 --> 04:47:45.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ayan, of course.

asr-004266
04:47:46.640 --> 04:47:48.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, usapin ng minimum wage.

asr-004267
04:47:48.800 --> 04:47:52.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At alam natin, ang umiiral na patakaran at batas at patakaran ngayon,

asr-004268
04:47:52.980 --> 04:47:55.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regional, ang setting ng minimum wage.

asr-004269
04:47:55.980 --> 04:47:59.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, dito, sinasummarize, galing sa IBO nito,

asr-004270
04:48:00.060 --> 04:48:06.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinasummarize yung mga regional wage levels per region.

asr-004271
04:48:08.680 --> 04:48:14.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, ang pinakamataas dyan ay sa NCR.

asr-004272
04:48:18.280 --> 04:48:20.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, hindi nga updated yan.

asr-004273
04:48:20.420 --> 04:48:22.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That particular graphic,

asr-004274
04:48:23.360 --> 04:48:25.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga rates ngayon,

asr-004275
04:48:25.980 --> 04:48:27.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: alam naman natin, for NCR,

asr-004276
04:48:28.400 --> 04:48:29.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's already 755.

asr-004277
04:48:31.720 --> 04:48:31.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004278
04:48:37.940 --> 04:48:39.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinakamataas ang sa NCR

asr-004279
04:48:39.820 --> 04:48:48.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at dito lumalabas na pinakabababa ang sa BARM.

asr-004280
04:48:48.960 --> 04:48:53.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa BARM po, 436 pesos ang minimum wage.

asr-004281
04:48:54.860 --> 04:48:54.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At,

asr-004282
04:48:54.980 --> 04:48:55.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung,

asr-004283
04:48:55.320 --> 04:48:56.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung i-a-average,

asr-004284
04:48:57.300 --> 04:48:58.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, may range

asr-004285
04:48:58.140 --> 04:49:02.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from 755 to 436,

asr-004286
04:49:04.040 --> 04:49:06.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: average 514.

asr-004287
04:49:06.260 --> 04:49:08.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero sa totoo lang, yung 514,

asr-004288
04:49:08.320 --> 04:49:10.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mathematical, ano lang yan, no?

asr-004289
04:49:11.420 --> 04:49:14.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Artifact, dahil wala namang region na ganyan ang minimum wage.

asr-004290
04:49:15.020 --> 04:49:16.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero just to give you an idea,

asr-004291
04:49:16.460 --> 04:49:20.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung range ng minimum wage sa

asr-004292
04:49:20.900 --> 04:49:24.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba't-ibang lugar sa Pilipinas,

asr-004293
04:49:24.580 --> 04:49:26.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil nga regionalized.

asr-004294
04:49:26.580 --> 04:49:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004295
04:49:27.580 --> 04:49:28.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero,

asr-004296
04:49:28.580 --> 04:49:31.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa totoo lang, hindi ganyang kasimple

asr-004297
04:49:31.580 --> 04:49:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang totoong lagay

asr-004298
04:49:34.580 --> 04:49:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng sahod sa buong bansa.

asr-004299
04:49:37.580 --> 04:49:41.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam din yan ang mga kasamahan natin sa DOLE dahil

asr-004300
04:49:41.580 --> 04:49:44.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung titignan natin ang bawat regyon,

asr-004301
04:49:44.580 --> 04:49:50.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba-iba ang umiiral na patakaran at

asr-004302
04:49:50.580 --> 04:49:53.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang task ng pagpapasweldo sa mga regyon.

asr-004303
04:49:53.580 --> 04:49:58.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example, actually,

asr-004304
04:49:58.580 --> 04:50:01.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba-iba pala.

asr-004305
04:50:01.580 --> 04:50:07.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, mas ngayon ko lang talaga na naintindihan.

asr-004306
04:50:07.580 --> 04:50:12.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung malawak na pagkakaiba ng mga sweldo,

asr-004307
04:50:12.580 --> 04:50:15.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi lang sa pagitan ng iba't-ibang regyon,

asr-004308
04:50:15.580 --> 04:50:17.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung hindi sa loob mismo ng isang regyon,

asr-004309
04:50:17.580 --> 04:50:20.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwedeng nagkakaiba-iba po ito.

asr-004310
04:50:20.580 --> 04:50:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, ayan, sa ating sponsor.

asr-004311
04:50:22.580 --> 04:50:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa Region 3 pala, hindi pala totoo na meron lang isang

asr-004312
04:50:27.580 --> 04:50:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regional minimum wage rate dahil regionalized ang wage setting.

asr-004313
04:50:32.580 --> 04:50:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi pala totoo yun.

asr-004314
04:50:34.580 --> 04:50:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil, for example, sa Central Luzon,

asr-004315
04:50:37.580 --> 04:50:44.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh ang patakaran dyan ay

asr-004316
04:50:44.580 --> 04:50:48.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Region 3,

asr-004317
04:50:48.580 --> 04:50:50.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron pong sweldo,

asr-004318
04:50:50.580 --> 04:50:55.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa buong regyon.

asr-004319
04:50:55.580 --> 04:50:59.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, merong particular na sweldo

asr-004320
04:50:59.580 --> 04:51:02.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa probinsya lang ng Aurora.

asr-004321
04:51:02.580 --> 04:51:04.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun?

asr-004322
04:51:04.580 --> 04:51:08.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa Region 3 po,

asr-004323
04:51:08.580 --> 04:51:12.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos ang rate,

asr-004324
04:51:12.580 --> 04:51:14.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero pagdating sa Aurora,

asr-004325
04:51:14.580 --> 04:51:18.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay lumalabas na,

asr-004326
04:51:18.580 --> 04:51:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baka ano ba ito?

asr-004327
04:51:22.580 --> 04:51:29.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is it 515?

asr-004328
04:51:29.580 --> 04:51:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me check.

asr-004329
04:51:30.580 --> 04:51:31.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakakalito na rin po eh.

asr-004330
04:51:31.580 --> 04:51:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O kasi iba-ibang nga.

asr-004331
04:51:34.580 --> 04:51:36.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Can I answer that shortly?

asr-004332
04:51:36.580 --> 04:51:37.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes.

asr-004333
04:51:37.580 --> 04:51:39.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, actually in Aurora province,

asr-004334
04:51:39.580 --> 04:51:44.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's 560.

asr-004335
04:51:44.580 --> 04:51:46.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For agricultural,

asr-004336
04:51:46.580 --> 04:51:47.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for non-agricultural,

asr-004337
04:51:47.580 --> 04:51:53.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and 545 for agricultural.

asr-004338
04:51:53.580 --> 04:51:59.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 515 naman for retail and services.

asr-004339
04:51:59.580 --> 04:52:01.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantala,

asr-004340
04:52:01.580 --> 04:52:03.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the rest of the region,

asr-004341
04:52:03.580 --> 04:52:06.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's 600 pesos

asr-004342
04:52:06.580 --> 04:52:08.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for non-agriculture,

asr-004343
04:52:08.580 --> 04:52:12.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 570 for retail service,

asr-004344
04:52:12.580 --> 04:52:15.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and,

asr-004345
04:52:15.580 --> 04:52:17.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sorry, 590 pala

asr-004346
04:52:17.580 --> 04:52:19.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for retail slash service,

asr-004347
04:52:19.580 --> 04:52:24.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and 560 for non-agriculture.

asr-004348
04:52:24.580 --> 04:52:25.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po.

asr-004349
04:52:25.580 --> 04:52:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-004350
04:52:27.580 --> 04:52:29.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung buong regyon,

asr-004351
04:52:29.580 --> 04:52:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Region 3,

asr-004352
04:52:30.580 --> 04:52:31.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lahat ng mga probinsya,

asr-004353
04:52:31.580 --> 04:52:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may isang rate,

asr-004354
04:52:32.580 --> 04:52:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero nagkakaiba-iba

asr-004355
04:52:34.580 --> 04:52:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: depende sa tawagin nating sektor.

asr-004356
04:52:37.580 --> 04:52:38.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004357
04:52:38.580 --> 04:52:41.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Agricultural, non-agricultural, retail service.

asr-004358
04:52:41.580 --> 04:52:42.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay?

asr-004359
04:52:42.580 --> 04:52:44.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Except for the province of Aurora.

asr-004360
04:52:44.580 --> 04:52:45.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po.

asr-004361
04:52:45.580 --> 04:52:46.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

asr-004362
04:52:46.580 --> 04:52:47.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004363
04:52:47.580 --> 04:52:48.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tama po.

asr-004364
04:52:48.580 --> 04:52:49.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

asr-004365
04:52:49.580 --> 04:52:51.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: can I just propound on that situation?

asr-004366
04:52:51.580 --> 04:52:52.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Opo.

asr-004367
04:52:52.580 --> 04:52:54.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Me being the representative

asr-004368
04:52:54.580 --> 04:52:55.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of the Loan District of Aurora,

asr-004369
04:52:55.580 --> 04:52:57.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that was my previous question

asr-004370
04:52:57.580 --> 04:52:58.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to Dole,

asr-004371
04:52:58.580 --> 04:52:59.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: per se.

asr-004372
04:52:59.580 --> 04:53:01.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Well, the fact of the matter is,

asr-004373
04:53:01.580 --> 04:53:02.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-004374
04:53:02.580 --> 04:53:03.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004375
04:53:03.580 --> 04:53:05.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang history po kasi

asr-004376
04:53:05.580 --> 04:53:06.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng lalawigan ng Aurora,

asr-004377
04:53:06.580 --> 04:53:08.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tatalun-talun kami ng regyon.

asr-004378
04:53:08.580 --> 04:53:09.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

asr-004379
04:53:09.580 --> 04:53:10.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: unfortunately,

asr-004380
04:53:10.580 --> 04:53:11.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as of this time,

asr-004381
04:53:11.580 --> 04:53:12.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I don't know

asr-004382
04:53:12.580 --> 04:53:13.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: if it's true or not,

asr-004383
04:53:13.580 --> 04:53:15.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as of this time as we speak,

asr-004384
04:53:15.580 --> 04:53:17.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi pa ganun karami yung enterprises

asr-004385
04:53:17.580 --> 04:53:19.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that compromises

asr-004386
04:53:19.580 --> 04:53:21.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa buong lalawigan ng Aurora.

asr-004387
04:53:21.580 --> 04:53:22.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But, it doesn't stop there.

asr-004388
04:53:22.580 --> 04:53:23.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ibig sabihin,

asr-004389
04:53:23.580 --> 04:53:24.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we're making the necessary steps,

asr-004390
04:53:24.580 --> 04:53:26.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o ginagawa natin,

asr-004391
04:53:26.580 --> 04:53:27.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para maging aktibo

asr-004392
04:53:27.580 --> 04:53:28.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung productivity

asr-004393
04:53:28.580 --> 04:53:29.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at the same time

asr-004394
04:53:29.580 --> 04:53:30.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ekonomiya ay lumago.

asr-004395
04:53:30.580 --> 04:53:32.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That is my first basic question

asr-004396
04:53:32.580 --> 04:53:33.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: also

asr-004397
04:53:33.580 --> 04:53:34.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to the Department,

asr-004398
04:53:34.580 --> 04:53:35.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi nga po,

asr-004399
04:53:35.580 --> 04:53:37.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kailangan balansahin ng Dole

asr-004400
04:53:37.580 --> 04:53:39.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung ano yung kinakailangan minimum wage

asr-004401
04:53:39.580 --> 04:53:40.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa bawat

asr-004402
04:53:40.580 --> 04:53:41.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: probinsya,

asr-004403
04:53:41.580 --> 04:53:42.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa bawat regyon.

asr-004404
04:53:42.580 --> 04:53:43.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And, in this case,

asr-004405
04:53:43.580 --> 04:53:44.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa buong Region 3,

asr-004406
04:53:44.580 --> 04:53:45.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tama ka po,

asr-004407
04:53:45.580 --> 04:53:46.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-004408
04:53:46.580 --> 04:53:47.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

asr-004409
04:53:47.580 --> 04:53:49.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na medyo mas mababa ng kaunti

asr-004410
04:53:49.580 --> 04:53:51.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa aming lalawigan ng Aurora.

asr-004411
04:53:51.580 --> 04:53:52.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Again, I would like to state

asr-004412
04:53:52.580 --> 04:53:53.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the reason,

asr-004413
04:53:53.580 --> 04:53:54.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: one,

asr-004414
04:53:54.580 --> 04:53:55.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is because of the masyadong

asr-004415
04:53:55.580 --> 04:53:56.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kaunti pa po yung enterprises

asr-004416
04:53:56.580 --> 04:53:57.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa amin.

asr-004417
04:53:57.580 --> 04:53:58.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Secondly,

asr-004418
04:53:58.580 --> 04:54:00.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: minsan yung mga aming mga

asr-004419
04:54:01.580 --> 04:54:02.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: industries

asr-004420
04:54:02.580 --> 04:54:03.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that are in there,

asr-004421
04:54:03.580 --> 04:54:04.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: like for example,

asr-004422
04:54:04.580 --> 04:54:05.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is tourism,

asr-004423
04:54:05.580 --> 04:54:06.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay medyo seasonal pa po

asr-004424
04:54:06.580 --> 04:54:07.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung aming pasok

asr-004425
04:54:07.580 --> 04:54:08.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng aming mga negosyo

asr-004426
04:54:08.580 --> 04:54:09.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining to the whole province

asr-004427
04:54:09.580 --> 04:54:10.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of Aurora.

asr-004428
04:54:10.580 --> 04:54:11.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I hope that answers

asr-004429
04:54:11.580 --> 04:54:12.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the question,

asr-004430
04:54:12.580 --> 04:54:13.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-004431
04:54:13.580 --> 04:54:14.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague.

asr-004432
04:54:14.580 --> 04:54:15.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004433
04:54:15.580 --> 04:54:16.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-004434
04:54:16.580 --> 04:54:17.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in other words,

asr-004435
04:54:17.580 --> 04:54:18.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang natuklasan ko po

asr-004436
04:54:18.580 --> 04:54:19.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nang sinurvey natin

asr-004437
04:54:19.580 --> 04:54:20.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga

asr-004438
04:54:20.580 --> 04:54:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regional minimum wage rate,

asr-004439
04:54:22.580 --> 04:54:23.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi pala pare-pare,

asr-004440
04:54:23.580 --> 04:54:24.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi lang iisa

asr-004441
04:54:24.580 --> 04:54:25.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa isang region nga.

asr-004442
04:54:25.580 --> 04:54:26.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course,

asr-004443
04:54:26.580 --> 04:54:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: alam na natin yung

asr-004444
04:54:27.580 --> 04:54:29.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agricultural versus

asr-004445
04:54:29.580 --> 04:54:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: non-agricultural.

asr-004446
04:54:30.580 --> 04:54:31.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O kaya,

asr-004447
04:54:31.580 --> 04:54:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ibang region

asr-004448
04:54:32.580 --> 04:54:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or sa maraming region,

asr-004449
04:54:34.580 --> 04:54:35.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama rin yung

asr-004450
04:54:35.580 --> 04:54:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: number of employees.

asr-004451
04:54:37.580 --> 04:54:38.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagka 10 and below,

asr-004452
04:54:38.580 --> 04:54:39.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may ibang rate.

asr-004453
04:54:39.580 --> 04:54:40.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-004454
04:54:40.580 --> 04:54:41.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may ibang rate

asr-004455
04:54:41.580 --> 04:54:42.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: above 10,

asr-004456
04:54:42.580 --> 04:54:43.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas malaki.

asr-004457
04:54:43.580 --> 04:54:44.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004458
04:54:44.580 --> 04:54:46.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mas mataas.

asr-004459
04:54:46.580 --> 04:54:47.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa pang example po

asr-004460
04:54:47.580 --> 04:54:48.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bukod sa region 3

asr-004461
04:54:48.580 --> 04:54:51.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay yung region 7.

asr-004462
04:54:51.580 --> 04:54:53.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa region 7 naman po,

asr-004463
04:54:53.580 --> 04:54:54.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: again,

asr-004464
04:54:54.580 --> 04:54:56.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi iisa ang pasweldo.

asr-004465
04:54:56.580 --> 04:54:59.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lumikha ang region na ito

asr-004466
04:54:59.580 --> 04:55:03.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng dalawang classification.

asr-004467
04:55:03.580 --> 04:55:04.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron daw class A

asr-004468
04:55:04.580 --> 04:55:05.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga bayan

asr-004469
04:55:05.580 --> 04:55:07.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at merong class B.

asr-004470
04:55:07.580 --> 04:55:08.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag class A,

asr-004471
04:55:08.580 --> 04:55:09.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas mataas.

asr-004472
04:55:09.580 --> 04:55:10.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag class B,

asr-004473
04:55:10.580 --> 04:55:11.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas mababa.

asr-004474
04:55:11.580 --> 04:55:12.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Class A,

asr-004475
04:55:12.580 --> 04:55:13.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan yung

asr-004476
04:55:13.580 --> 04:55:14.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga bayan

asr-004477
04:55:14.580 --> 04:55:15.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng

asr-004478
04:55:15.580 --> 04:55:16.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cities of

asr-004479
04:55:16.580 --> 04:55:17.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Carcar,

asr-004480
04:55:17.580 --> 04:55:18.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cebu,

asr-004481
04:55:18.580 --> 04:55:19.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Danao,

asr-004482
04:55:19.580 --> 04:55:20.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lapu-Lapu,

asr-004483
04:55:20.580 --> 04:55:21.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mandaue,

asr-004484
04:55:21.580 --> 04:55:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naga,

asr-004485
04:55:22.580 --> 04:55:23.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and Talisay.

asr-004486
04:55:23.580 --> 04:55:24.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As well as

asr-004487
04:55:24.580 --> 04:55:25.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the municipalities

asr-004488
04:55:25.580 --> 04:55:26.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Compostela,

asr-004489
04:55:26.580 --> 04:55:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Consolacion,

asr-004490
04:55:27.580 --> 04:55:28.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cordoba,

asr-004491
04:55:28.580 --> 04:55:29.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Liloan,

asr-004492
04:55:29.580 --> 04:55:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Minglanilla,

asr-004493
04:55:30.580 --> 04:55:33.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and San Fernando.

asr-004494
04:55:33.580 --> 04:55:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Together with

asr-004495
04:55:34.580 --> 04:55:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: expanded Metro Cebu.

asr-004496
04:55:37.580 --> 04:55:38.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-004497
04:55:38.580 --> 04:55:39.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagkasama ka dyan

asr-004498
04:55:39.580 --> 04:55:41.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 540 a day

asr-004499
04:55:41.580 --> 04:55:43.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang minimum wage.

asr-004500
04:55:43.580 --> 04:55:44.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero,

asr-004501
04:55:44.580 --> 04:55:46.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagka class B ka,

asr-004502
04:55:46.580 --> 04:55:47.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meaning hindi ka kasama

asr-004503
04:55:47.580 --> 04:55:49.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dun sa nabanggit nating listahan,

asr-004504
04:55:49.580 --> 04:55:51.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 500 pesos lang po

asr-004505
04:55:51.580 --> 04:55:53.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang

asr-004506
04:55:53.580 --> 04:55:56.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: daily minimum wage.

asr-004507
04:55:56.580 --> 04:55:57.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004508
04:55:57.580 --> 04:55:58.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun pa.

asr-004509
04:55:58.580 --> 04:55:59.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pang isa dyan,

asr-004510
04:55:59.580 --> 04:56:01.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung region na

asr-004511
04:56:01.580 --> 04:56:02.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Mindanao naman,

asr-004512
04:56:02.580 --> 04:56:04.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that's

asr-004513
04:56:04.580 --> 04:56:07.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

asr-004514
04:56:07.580 --> 04:56:09.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

asr-004515
04:56:09.580 --> 04:56:10.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is it region,

asr-004516
04:56:10.580 --> 04:56:11.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: asan to?

asr-004517
04:56:17.580 --> 04:56:18.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Uh,

asr-004518
04:56:18.580 --> 04:56:19.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: region,

asr-004519
04:56:24.580 --> 04:56:25.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well,

asr-004520
04:56:25.580 --> 04:56:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: region,

asr-004521
04:56:27.580 --> 04:56:28.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron po sa Mindanao eh,

asr-004522
04:56:28.580 --> 04:56:29.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ko lang po makita ngayon,

asr-004523
04:56:29.580 --> 04:56:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pasensya na.

asr-004524
04:56:30.580 --> 04:56:31.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004525
04:56:31.580 --> 04:56:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that's

asr-004526
04:56:32.580 --> 04:56:33.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

asr-004527
04:56:33.580 --> 04:56:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: region 3.

asr-004528
04:56:34.580 --> 04:56:35.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Uh,

asr-004529
04:56:35.580 --> 04:56:36.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then,

asr-004530
04:56:36.580 --> 04:56:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

asr-004531
04:56:37.580 --> 04:56:38.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: region 7.

asr-004532
04:56:38.580 --> 04:56:39.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let me go to the,

asr-004533
04:56:39.580 --> 04:56:40.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

asr-004534
04:56:40.580 --> 04:56:41.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: most,

asr-004535
04:56:41.580 --> 04:56:44.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

asr-004536
04:56:44.580 --> 04:56:45.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede nating sabihin,

asr-004537
04:56:45.580 --> 04:56:46.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: most,

asr-004538
04:56:46.580 --> 04:56:47.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

asr-004539
04:56:47.580 --> 04:56:48.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: complex and most notorious

asr-004540
04:56:48.580 --> 04:56:49.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: case.

asr-004541
04:56:49.580 --> 04:56:50.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dito,

asr-004542
04:56:50.580 --> 04:56:51.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Calabarzon.

asr-004543
04:56:51.580 --> 04:56:53.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa Calabarzon po,

asr-004544
04:56:53.580 --> 04:56:54.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay

asr-004545
04:56:54.580 --> 04:56:55.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibat-ibang level po.

asr-004546
04:56:55.580 --> 04:56:56.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually,

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04:56:56.580 --> 04:56:57.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ginamit nila,

asr-004548
04:56:57.580 --> 04:56:58.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: uh,

asr-004549
04:56:58.580 --> 04:56:59.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi, hindi lang regional

asr-004550
04:56:59.580 --> 04:57:00.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang, ang

asr-004551
04:57:00.580 --> 04:57:02.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wage levels.

asr-004552
04:57:02.580 --> 04:57:04.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi rin provincial.

asr-004553
04:57:04.580 --> 04:57:05.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004554
04:57:05.580 --> 04:57:06.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May mga,

asr-004555
04:57:06.580 --> 04:57:07.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004556
04:57:07.580 --> 04:57:08.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004557
04:57:08.580 --> 04:57:09.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: organization na manggagawa,

asr-004558
04:57:09.580 --> 04:57:10.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabihin na,

asr-004559
04:57:10.580 --> 04:57:11.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: abolish the provincial rate.

asr-004560
04:57:11.580 --> 04:57:12.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa totoo lang,

asr-004561
04:57:12.580 --> 04:57:13.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala naman po talagang

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04:57:13.580 --> 04:57:14.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: provincial rate,

asr-004563
04:57:14.580 --> 04:57:15.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: except maybe for the

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04:57:15.580 --> 04:57:16.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: province of Aurora.

asr-004565
04:57:16.580 --> 04:57:17.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004566
04:57:17.580 --> 04:57:18.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang meron,

asr-004567
04:57:18.580 --> 04:57:20.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particular sa Calabarzon,

asr-004568
04:57:20.580 --> 04:57:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: city and municipal rate.

asr-004569
04:57:22.580 --> 04:57:23.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi lang yun,

asr-004570
04:57:23.580 --> 04:57:24.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: city,

asr-004571
04:57:24.580 --> 04:57:25.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipal,

asr-004572
04:57:25.580 --> 04:57:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pati ecozone.

asr-004573
04:57:27.580 --> 04:57:28.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ecozone,

asr-004574
04:57:28.580 --> 04:57:29.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may sariling

asr-004575
04:57:29.580 --> 04:57:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: minimum wage rate.

asr-004576
04:57:30.580 --> 04:57:31.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po,

asr-004577
04:57:31.580 --> 04:57:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004578
04:57:32.580 --> 04:57:33.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004579
04:57:33.580 --> 04:57:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: granular,

asr-004580
04:57:34.580 --> 04:57:36.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: granular,

asr-004581
04:57:36.580 --> 04:57:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung pag-set

asr-004582
04:57:37.580 --> 04:57:38.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng regional,

asr-004583
04:57:38.580 --> 04:57:40.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng minimum wage,

asr-004584
04:57:40.580 --> 04:57:42.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng regional wage board.

asr-004585
04:57:42.580 --> 04:57:43.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa kaso po

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04:57:43.580 --> 04:57:48.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Aurora,

asr-004587
04:57:48.580 --> 04:57:49.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bukod dun sa mga

asr-004588
04:57:49.580 --> 04:57:50.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sektor,

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04:57:50.580 --> 04:57:51.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agricultural,

asr-004590
04:57:51.580 --> 04:57:52.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: non-agricultural,

asr-004591
04:57:52.580 --> 04:57:53.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: retail,

asr-004592
04:57:53.580 --> 04:57:54.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004593
04:57:54.580 --> 04:57:56.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama rin yung

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04:57:56.580 --> 04:57:58.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: employer size,

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04:57:58.580 --> 04:57:59.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayan na nga, no?

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04:57:59.580 --> 04:58:00.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung whether 10 and above,

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04:58:00.580 --> 04:58:02.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10 and below,

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04:58:02.580 --> 04:58:03.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay meron pa pong,

asr-004599
04:58:03.580 --> 04:58:07.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004600
04:58:07.580 --> 04:58:11.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: extended metropolitan area.

asr-004601
04:58:11.580 --> 04:58:12.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004602
04:58:12.580 --> 04:58:15.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-004603
04:58:15.580 --> 04:58:16.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: area class.

asr-004604
04:58:16.580 --> 04:58:18.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There are six area classes.

asr-004605
04:58:18.580 --> 04:58:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, this is the extended metropolitan area.

asr-004606
04:58:22.580 --> 04:58:24.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ito yung mga malalaking siyudad.

asr-004607
04:58:24.580 --> 04:58:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, component cities.

asr-004608
04:58:27.580 --> 04:58:28.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan, meron,

asr-004609
04:58:28.580 --> 04:58:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: another tier yan.

asr-004610
04:58:30.580 --> 04:58:31.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004611
04:58:31.580 --> 04:58:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, there's,

asr-004612
04:58:32.580 --> 04:58:33.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tier all,

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04:58:33.580 --> 04:58:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: all of its own,

asr-004614
04:58:34.580 --> 04:58:36.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which is Rosario,

asr-004615
04:58:36.580 --> 04:58:38.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Cavite.

asr-004616
04:58:38.580 --> 04:58:39.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nag-iisa siya,

asr-004617
04:58:39.580 --> 04:58:41.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na merong sariling rate.

asr-004618
04:58:41.580 --> 04:58:43.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, yung first class municipalities,

asr-004619
04:58:43.580 --> 04:58:45.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may sarili.

asr-004620
04:58:45.580 --> 04:58:46.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pa tinatawag na

asr-004621
04:58:46.580 --> 04:58:48.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reclassified first class

asr-004622
04:58:48.580 --> 04:58:50.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalities

asr-004623
04:58:50.580 --> 04:58:52.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: per DOF department order number

asr-004624
04:58:52.580 --> 04:58:53.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: zero four,

asr-004625
04:58:53.580 --> 04:58:56.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: zero seven four dash twenty twenty four

asr-004626
04:58:56.580 --> 04:58:58.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: number twenty four.

asr-004627
04:58:58.580 --> 04:59:00.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Very specific.

asr-004628
04:59:00.580 --> 04:59:02.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, meron pang second,

asr-004629
04:59:02.580 --> 04:59:05.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to fifth class municipalities.

asr-004630
04:59:05.580 --> 04:59:07.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iba-iba po yan.

asr-004631
04:59:07.580 --> 04:59:08.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, let us give

asr-004632
04:59:08.580 --> 04:59:09.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a more concrete

asr-004633
04:59:09.580 --> 04:59:11.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: example of this.

asr-004634
04:59:11.580 --> 04:59:13.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004635
04:59:13.580 --> 04:59:15.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example po,

asr-004636
04:59:15.580 --> 04:59:18.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa probinsya ng,

asr-004637
04:59:18.580 --> 04:59:19.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: let's say,

asr-004638
04:59:19.580 --> 04:59:21.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Laguna.

asr-004639
04:59:21.580 --> 04:59:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004640
04:59:22.580 --> 04:59:24.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa Laguna po,

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04:59:24.580 --> 04:59:25.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga pinaka,

asr-004642
04:59:25.580 --> 04:59:28.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malaking mataas na sweldo,

asr-004643
04:59:28.580 --> 04:59:29.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay,

asr-004644
04:59:29.580 --> 04:59:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004645
04:59:30.580 --> 04:59:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung extended metropolitan area.

asr-004646
04:59:32.580 --> 04:59:34.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That would cover

asr-004647
04:59:34.580 --> 04:59:35.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the

asr-004648
04:59:35.580 --> 04:59:36.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cities of

asr-004649
04:59:36.580 --> 04:59:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Binyan

asr-004650
04:59:37.580 --> 04:59:39.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and San Pedro

asr-004651
04:59:39.580 --> 04:59:40.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: plus

asr-004652
04:59:40.580 --> 04:59:42.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Laguna Technopark.

asr-004653
04:59:42.580 --> 04:59:44.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos.

asr-004654
04:59:44.580 --> 04:59:46.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Component cities,

asr-004655
04:59:46.580 --> 04:59:47.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos din.

asr-004656
04:59:47.580 --> 04:59:48.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan ang mga bayan ng

asr-004657
04:59:48.580 --> 04:59:49.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Cabuyao,

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04:59:49.580 --> 04:59:50.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Calamba,

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04:59:50.580 --> 04:59:51.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Santa Rosa,

asr-004660
04:59:51.580 --> 04:59:52.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: San Pablo.

asr-004661
04:59:52.580 --> 04:59:53.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah,

asr-004662
04:59:53.580 --> 04:59:54.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, yun po,

asr-004663
04:59:54.580 --> 04:59:55.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos sila.

asr-004664
04:59:55.580 --> 04:59:56.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag napunta ka naman sa

asr-004665
04:59:56.580 --> 04:59:58.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: first class municipalities,

asr-004666
04:59:58.580 --> 05:00:01.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 550 pesos.

asr-004667
05:00:01.760 --> 05:00:04.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So kasama po dyan Los

asr-004668
05:00:04.080 --> 05:00:06.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baños at Santa Cruz, Laguna.

asr-004669
05:00:07.960 --> 05:00:10.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kalevel nito yung mga reclassified

asr-004670
05:00:10.120 --> 05:00:12.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: first class municipalities, Alaminos,

asr-004671
05:00:12.820 --> 05:00:15.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bayi, Calawan, Nagkarlan, Pila,

asr-004672
05:00:16.060 --> 05:00:23.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siniloan. Tapos at 525 pesos second to

asr-004673
05:00:23.360 --> 05:00:25.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fifth class municipalities. Ito yung

asr-004674
05:00:25.140 --> 05:00:28.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinakamababa, Kabinti, Fami, Kalayaan,

asr-004675
05:00:28.180 --> 05:00:30.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lili, Louisiana, Lumban, Mabitak,

asr-004676
05:00:30.600 --> 05:00:33.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magdalena, Mahayhay, Paite, Pagsanhan,

asr-004677
05:00:33.720 --> 05:00:36.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakil, Pangil, Rizal, Santa Maria,

asr-004678
05:00:36.300 --> 05:00:37.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Victoria. Okay.

asr-004679
05:00:41.640 --> 05:00:43.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pabasahin ko pa po, isa pa po. Just to

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05:00:43.940 --> 05:00:46.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: illustrate, no? And to make a point.

asr-004681
05:00:47.920 --> 05:00:50.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sa Rizal. Sa Rizal po, pinakamataas,

asr-004682
05:00:50.960 --> 05:00:56.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 600 pesos din, extended metropolitan area,

asr-004683
05:00:56.260 --> 05:00:58.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga bayan ng kainta, antipol,

asr-004684
05:00:58.180 --> 05:01:01.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Palo, Taytay. Tapos, first class

asr-004685
05:01:01.220 --> 05:01:04.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalities and reclassified first

asr-004686
05:01:04.040 --> 05:01:07.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: class municipalities, 550. So, 50 peso

asr-004687
05:01:07.400 --> 05:01:12.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: difference. Ang ono, Binangonan, Pililya,

asr-004688
05:01:12.860 --> 05:01:16.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Rodriguez, San Mateo, Tanay. Tapos,

asr-004689
05:01:16.220 --> 05:01:20.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baras, Morong, at Teresa. Okay.

asr-004690
05:01:20.280 --> 05:01:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantala, second to fifth class

asr-004691
05:01:22.580 --> 05:01:27.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalities, Cardona at Halahala. Okay.

asr-004692
05:01:27.160 --> 05:01:27.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. No?

asr-004693
05:01:28.180 --> 05:01:30.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano ang punto po rito? Meron pang

asr-004694
05:01:30.940 --> 05:01:38.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: extreme example. Sabi nga natin, sa Calabarzon,

asr-004695
05:01:39.120 --> 05:01:43.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang wage level setting, hindi lang po regional

asr-004696
05:01:43.580 --> 05:01:47.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: level, hindi city or municipality level lang,

asr-004697
05:01:47.600 --> 05:01:51.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pati eco zone level. Meron. No? Kaya sa

asr-004698
05:01:51.700 --> 05:01:57.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaso po ng bayan ng Malbar sa Batangas,

asr-004699
05:01:58.180 --> 05:02:04.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: merong rate na 600 para sa eco zone sa Malbar.

asr-004700
05:02:04.400 --> 05:02:08.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang lima. Yun ang pangalan. Okay?

asr-004701
05:02:08.440 --> 05:02:14.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lima ba? Okay. Tapos, pag lumabas ka sa gate,

asr-004702
05:02:14.640 --> 05:02:17.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasa bayan ka, nasa labas ka na ng eco zone,

asr-004703
05:02:17.520 --> 05:02:23.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung bayan mismo ng Malbar, 550 lang po ang kanilang rate.

asr-004704
05:02:23.060 --> 05:02:27.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, may 50 peso difference. No? Lumabas ka lang sa gate.

asr-004705
05:02:27.800 --> 05:02:32.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nung eco zone. Okay? No? Kasi yung nabanggit ko kanina sa

asr-004706
05:02:32.280 --> 05:02:35.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Rizal. I go back to Rizal kasi ito pamilyar ako. Madalas ako

asr-004707
05:02:35.600 --> 05:02:39.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dumadaan sa mga bayan na yan eh. No? Along the Manila East

asr-004708
05:02:39.020 --> 05:02:49.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Road. Mula Antipolo hanggang Teresa, Morong, Tanay,

asr-004709
05:02:49.780 --> 05:02:53.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baras, Pililya. Okay. Magkakatabi lang po yung bayan na

asr-004710
05:02:53.660 --> 05:02:57.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan. No? Tapos yung Cardona, sa Bandaron,

asr-004711
05:02:57.800 --> 05:03:02.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? Magkakatabi lang yung bayan na yan. Pero, dahil sa

asr-004712
05:03:02.120 --> 05:03:11.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: classification na ito, sa Antipolo, 600. Sa Morong o Teresa,

asr-004713
05:03:11.960 --> 05:03:18.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 550. Pero sa Cardona, yung pinakamababa. 500, ka na ba

asr-004714
05:03:18.020 --> 05:03:25.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun? 525. Okay? So, magkakatabi lang po yan. Sa ibang

asr-004715
05:03:25.160 --> 05:03:26.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaso, pwede mo lang lakarin.

asr-004716
05:03:27.800 --> 05:03:32.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay nasa kabilang bayan ka na. No? So, ano po ang

asr-004717
05:03:32.280 --> 05:03:39.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: justification? Sa ganitong tipo ng wage setting. Samantala, ang

asr-004718
05:03:39.620 --> 05:03:45.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presyo ng bigas, ang presyo ng gasolina, ang pamasahe, ang

asr-004719
05:03:45.480 --> 05:03:52.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presyo ng kuryente, ang presyo ng edukasyon, pagpapaaral sa

asr-004720
05:03:52.700 --> 05:03:57.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iyong mga anak, di naman nagbabago yan. Mula sa bayan,

asr-004721
05:03:57.800 --> 05:04:03.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Cardona, at sa katabi nitong bayan ng Morong, hindi po

asr-004722
05:04:03.260 --> 05:04:07.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagbabago. Pero magkaiba po, ang minimum wage rate. Anong

asr-004723
05:04:07.760 --> 05:04:13.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahibangan na umabot na sa ganito ang pag set ng minimum wage

asr-004724
05:04:13.280 --> 05:04:18.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lalong lano na extreme version sa kalabarson? Samantala, may

asr-004725
05:04:18.540 --> 05:04:24.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga example po, ng regions, na isa lang talagang rate. In fact,

asr-004726
05:04:24.700 --> 05:04:26.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, for example, CAR.

asr-004727
05:04:27.300 --> 05:04:30.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa CAR po, Cordillera Administrative Region,

asr-004728
05:04:31.020 --> 05:04:35.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tinanggal nila kahit na yung distinction between agricultural and non-agricultural.

asr-004729
05:04:35.800 --> 05:04:37.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iisa na lang po ang rate niyan.

asr-004730
05:04:38.980 --> 05:04:44.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, there are several regions na ganun.

asr-004731
05:04:45.880 --> 05:04:54.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: CAR, Region 2, Region 4B, Region 4, Region 5, and Region 13.

asr-004732
05:04:54.700 --> 05:04:57.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, isa lang po ang rate.

asr-004733
05:04:59.600 --> 05:05:05.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yan po ang nais nating i-highlight dito.

asr-004734
05:05:06.420 --> 05:05:11.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit ganyan ang wage setting at hindi ba pinapakita na nito

asr-004735
05:05:11.460 --> 05:05:15.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na wala talagang loyka at walang saisay.

asr-004736
05:05:16.680 --> 05:05:22.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At pinakapahirap sa manggagawa, sa mamamayang Pilipino,

asr-004737
05:05:22.000 --> 05:05:24.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na depende kung nasan ka,

asr-004738
05:05:24.700 --> 05:05:28.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay mas pababa ang sweldo kahit pareho naman.

asr-004739
05:05:29.360 --> 05:05:36.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang measurable and objective na kaibahan sa cost of living.

asr-004740
05:05:36.860 --> 05:05:38.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan po ang problema.

asr-004741
05:05:39.100 --> 05:05:39.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba ganun?

asr-004742
05:05:40.520 --> 05:05:48.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi ba panahon na para ma-abolish ang sistema nito ng regional wage setting?

asr-004743
05:05:50.840 --> 05:05:54.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, I get your point.

asr-004744
05:05:54.700 --> 05:06:01.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished colleague, na pag talon mo sa isang lugar na isang bayan ay iba na yung rate.

asr-004745
05:06:02.300 --> 05:06:04.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And you gave perfect examples of those in which.

asr-004746
05:06:06.480 --> 05:06:12.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But the thing is, the mandate which was given by Congress sa Department of Labor and Employment,

asr-004747
05:06:13.300 --> 05:06:17.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay kami naman po ay sumusunod sa alituntunin sa pag-set ng minimum wage.

asr-004748
05:06:17.900 --> 05:06:22.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, yung binigit niyo po kanina ay patungo dun sa we have to also take in consideration

asr-004749
05:06:22.940 --> 05:06:24.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa dun sa ating income classes.

asr-004750
05:06:24.700 --> 05:06:26.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng Department of Finance.

asr-004751
05:06:26.740 --> 05:06:29.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And the most important one is yung productivity.

asr-004752
05:06:30.240 --> 05:06:34.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Iba-iba po kasi yung kada bayan, kada reyon, kada probinsya.

asr-004753
05:06:35.600 --> 05:06:39.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And patukol naman po dun sa huling statement po ninyo,

asr-004754
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung napapanahon na po ba pag-abolish dun sa mga different rates.

asr-004755
05:06:45.400 --> 05:06:51.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Again, the official stand of Department of Labor and Employment patungo dun sa ating minimum wage setting

asr-004756
05:06:51.940 --> 05:06:53.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: or the reach.

asr-004757
05:06:54.700 --> 05:07:05.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: RA 6727 or Wage Rationalization Act ay we submit to the wisdom ng ating Kongreso at Senado.

asr-004758
05:07:05.860 --> 05:07:11.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Once halimbawang nakapagpasa po ng isang bill or maging ganap na isang batas,

asr-004759
05:07:11.980 --> 05:07:16.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the Department will fully implement kung sakasakaling ito ay maging isang ganap na batas,

asr-004760
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-004761
05:07:19.180 --> 05:07:20.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, thank you, Madam Speaker.

asr-004762
05:07:20.600 --> 05:07:24.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang dinidiin po natin talaga, yung patakalan na mismo,

asr-004763
05:07:24.700 --> 05:07:30.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pinapakita natin dito na yung pinapatupad na patakalan ng DOLE ng kanilang mga regional wage board

asr-004764
05:07:30.960 --> 05:07:42.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay, siyempre, alinsunod sa batas, pero pinapakita dito na yung batas ay hindi na naglilingkod sa interes ng mga manggagawang Pilipino.

asr-004765
05:07:43.520 --> 05:07:47.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maaring pabor sa mga kapitalista. Of course, matutuwa sila.

asr-004766
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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lumipad lang sila ng bayan. Mas mababa na ang kanilang pasweldo.

asr-004767
05:07:52.440 --> 05:07:54.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero para sa mga mamayang nandun,

asr-004768
05:07:54.700 --> 05:08:00.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala namang pinag-iba ang presyo ng bigas ng pagkain sa kabilang bayan.

asr-004769
05:08:00.700 --> 05:08:08.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, again, dinidiin natin panahon na para i-abolish ito at ibalik yung national minimum wage.

asr-004770
05:08:08.700 --> 05:08:15.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marami pa sana akong datos dyan, kaya lang, pinitingnan ko ang oras, pupunta na ako sa susunod na topic natin.

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05:08:15.700 --> 05:08:22.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang punto natin dito, kapos na kapos na po, at hindi na naglilingkod sa interes at kapakanan ng manggagawa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang patakarang pinatutupad na ito.

asr-004773
05:08:24.700 --> 05:08:29.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang dole, kaugnay sa regionalized, at hindi nga lang regionalized, no,

asr-004774
05:08:29.700 --> 05:08:36.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalized, localized wage setting. Extreme case being Calabarzon.

asr-004775
05:08:36.700 --> 05:08:42.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, kailangang ibalik ang national minimum wage.

asr-004776
05:08:42.700 --> 05:08:47.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ngayon, punta tayo sa usapin ng tupad.

asr-004777
05:08:47.700 --> 05:08:53.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan, nabuksan ni, ng naunang interpellator natin, si Representative Eli San Fernando.

asr-004778
05:08:54.700 --> 05:09:04.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi katakataka, dahil nga, kung titignan mo ang budget ng dole, ang pinakamalaking component talaga nito ay tupad.

asr-004779
05:09:04.700 --> 05:09:15.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pinring up ko na po ito nung budget briefing, but let me revisit the data in plenary.

asr-004780
05:09:15.700 --> 05:09:20.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kung pwede po, maipakita yung ating presentation.

asr-004781
05:09:20.700 --> 05:09:22.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ayan nga, tinrack nga natin.

asr-004782
05:09:22.700 --> 05:09:27.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 10 years ng tupad, no, at 2016 yan.

asr-004783
05:09:27.700 --> 05:09:39.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nung 2016, ang level po ng tupad ay nasa, nasa, tupad.

asr-004784
05:09:39.700 --> 05:09:44.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Three, hindi makita.

asr-004785
05:09:44.700 --> 05:09:50.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Is that three?

asr-004786
05:09:50.700 --> 05:09:54.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Is that three?

asr-004787
05:09:54.700 --> 05:09:56.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 3.2 billion.

asr-004788
05:09:56.700 --> 05:09:58.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 3.2 billion pesos po.

asr-004789
05:09:58.700 --> 05:10:00.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That was 2016.

asr-004790
05:10:00.700 --> 05:10:11.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, 2024, 3.2 billion naging 29.5 billion.

asr-004791
05:10:11.700 --> 05:10:16.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? So, ilang beses na lumaki ito.

asr-004792
05:10:16.700 --> 05:10:18.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Uhm.

asr-004793
05:10:18.700 --> 05:10:25.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: More than, almost 10 times, no, ang paglaki.

asr-004794
05:10:25.700 --> 05:10:29.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan yung pinakamalaking allocation ng tupad.

asr-004795
05:10:29.700 --> 05:10:36.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It consists, at that time, it consisted of almost 82% of the total dole budget.

asr-004796
05:10:36.700 --> 05:10:47.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For 2026, sa kasalukuyang taon, 75% ng budget ng dole, 22 billion pesos ay nasa tupad.

asr-004797
05:10:47.700 --> 05:11:01.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa proposed budget nyo, proposed budget nyo 2027, ayan po, 2027 ay, ah, magkano ang hinihingi?

asr-004798
05:11:01.700 --> 05:11:06.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 14.2 billion o 68% of total.

asr-004799
05:11:06.700 --> 05:11:08.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po ang nasa NEP.

asr-004800
05:11:08.700 --> 05:11:14.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero natatandaan ko rin po sa budget briefing, and maybe it can be stated here on the record,

asr-004801
05:11:14.700 --> 05:11:16.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: humihingi pa po ng dagdad na tupad.

asr-004802
05:11:16.700 --> 05:11:18.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang dole.

asr-004803
05:11:18.700 --> 05:11:28.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po bang ma, ah, banggit for the record kung magkano yung hinihingi ng dole na dagdag sa tupad?

asr-004804
05:11:28.700 --> 05:11:36.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ah, on record, ah, Madam Speaker Distinguished Colleague, tama po yung sinabi nyo doon sa record na 14.1 billion.

asr-004805
05:11:36.700 --> 05:11:43.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But for clarity, yung out of that is 3 billion is, ah, GIP, which is the Government Internship Program.

asr-004806
05:11:43.700 --> 05:11:44.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Okay.

asr-004807
05:11:44.700 --> 05:11:51.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So kung sa inyong tinatanong na kung magkano yung, ah, hinihingi, I mentioned that earlier doon sa ating opening statement,

asr-004808
05:11:51.700 --> 05:11:57.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kung saan doon sa nakaraang ah, budget ah, hearing sa committee level, I, I think it was 10.1 billion.

asr-004809
05:11:59.700 --> 05:12:00.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 10.

asr-004810
05:12:01.700 --> 05:12:02.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 10.25 billion.

asr-004811
05:12:02.700 --> 05:12:03.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10.4.

asr-004812
05:12:04.700 --> 05:12:05.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10.25.

asr-004813
05:12:05.700 --> 05:12:06.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Okay, so.

asr-004814
05:12:06.700 --> 05:12:07.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10.25.

asr-004815
05:12:07.700 --> 05:12:13.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 14 billion ang nasa NEP, pero gusto niyo po po dagdaga ng mahigit 10 billion.

asr-004816
05:12:13.700 --> 05:12:18.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, gusto niyong gawing 24.8 billion, no?

asr-004817
05:12:18.700 --> 05:12:23.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, halos doblehin yung kasulukuyang hinihingi ng pondo.

asr-004818
05:12:23.700 --> 05:12:26.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ah, yun na nga.

asr-004819
05:12:26.700 --> 05:12:37.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, dinidiinan na natin dito at kinikwestiyon na natin, bakit ang pinakamalaking bahagi ng budget ng dole ay tupad?

asr-004820
05:12:37.700 --> 05:12:38.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004821
05:12:38.700 --> 05:12:41.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ironically, ah.

asr-004822
05:12:41.700 --> 05:12:45.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, yun nga sabi natin, ano na ba ang dole ngayon?

asr-004823
05:12:46.700 --> 05:12:48.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba ang pangunahing mandato ng dole?

asr-004824
05:12:48.700 --> 05:12:51.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, labor and employment?

asr-004825
05:12:52.700 --> 05:12:57.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagprotekta sa karapatan at kagalingan ng manggagawa?

asr-004826
05:12:57.700 --> 05:13:01.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O ayuda agency na ba ang dole ngayon?

asr-004827
05:13:01.700 --> 05:13:05.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi kung pagbabatayan natin ang budget, ayuda agency na.

asr-004828
05:13:05.700 --> 05:13:06.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004829
05:13:06.700 --> 05:13:07.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At,

asr-004830
05:13:07.700 --> 05:13:09.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon pa,

asr-004831
05:13:09.700 --> 05:13:10.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi na nagkasya,

asr-004832
05:13:10.700 --> 05:13:18.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dun sa 14 billion na hinihingi para sa tupad, gusto pang dagdagan ng 10 billion.

asr-004833
05:13:18.700 --> 05:13:19.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004834
05:13:19.700 --> 05:13:22.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, so,

asr-004835
05:13:22.700 --> 05:13:28.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paninindigan pa rin ba ng dole ang hinihingi pa nilang dagdag na 10 billion?

asr-004836
05:13:28.700 --> 05:13:29.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantala,

asr-004837
05:13:29.700 --> 05:13:33.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: katulad yan ang nasabi, napakaraming mga pangangailangan.

asr-004838
05:13:33.700 --> 05:13:35.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung nabanggit na,

asr-004839
05:13:35.700 --> 05:13:39.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dagdag na labor inspectors, new plantilla positions,

asr-004840
05:13:39.700 --> 05:13:41.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for labor inspectors.

asr-004841
05:13:42.700 --> 05:13:43.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit hindi?

asr-004842
05:13:43.700 --> 05:13:52.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilang bagong labor inspectors ang pwedeng madagdagan dun sa 10 billion na hinihingi ninyo?

asr-004843
05:13:52.700 --> 05:13:53.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba?

asr-004844
05:13:53.700 --> 05:14:05.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, paninindigan pa po ba na dagdagan pa sa halip na bawasan ang hinihingi tupad ng dole for 2027?

asr-004845
05:14:06.700 --> 05:14:08.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004846
05:14:09.700 --> 05:14:11.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: one for the record,

asr-004847
05:14:11.700 --> 05:14:14.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pagsilabing po po kasing ayuda is dole out.

asr-004848
05:14:14.700 --> 05:14:19.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ang tupad together with GIP and other the programs of dole.

asr-004849
05:14:19.700 --> 05:14:22.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung tupad naman po ay pinagtatrabahuhan.

asr-004850
05:14:22.700 --> 05:14:27.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And if you will allow me, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004851
05:14:27.700 --> 05:14:32.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nagkaroon lang kasi because of the pandemic, yung parang stigma doon sa ating tupad.

asr-004852
05:14:32.700 --> 05:14:37.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero I'll give you a prime example na isa lamang.

asr-004853
05:14:37.700 --> 05:14:38.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'll give you an example.

asr-004854
05:14:39.700 --> 05:14:43.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In Caloocan, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004855
05:14:43.700 --> 05:14:50.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and this is very malapit sa akin to because gustong gusto ko rin gawin ito sa aking distrito.

asr-004856
05:14:50.700 --> 05:14:51.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Bakit?

asr-004857
05:14:51.700 --> 05:14:57.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung kanyang under ng tupad, alam naman po natin doon sa reports na na-receive natin sa EDCOM,

asr-004858
05:14:57.700 --> 05:14:59.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na maraming estudyante...

asr-004859
05:15:00.000 --> 05:15:02.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: from kinder to grade 10

asr-004860
05:15:02.560 --> 05:15:04.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang medyo nahuhuli

asr-004861
05:15:04.120 --> 05:15:05.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pagdating sa pagbasa

asr-004862
05:15:05.920 --> 05:15:08.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at ang ating resulta

asr-004863
05:15:08.040 --> 05:15:10.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay nahihiyan na po silang pumasok

asr-004864
05:15:10.120 --> 05:15:11.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa kanilang mga eskwelahan.

asr-004865
05:15:12.640 --> 05:15:13.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ano po ang ginawa ng ating

asr-004866
05:15:13.800 --> 05:15:17.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Department of Labor Employment

asr-004867
05:15:17.560 --> 05:15:18.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa Kaloocan?

asr-004868
05:15:19.400 --> 05:15:20.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Simpleng-simple lamang.

asr-004869
05:15:21.240 --> 05:15:21.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One,

asr-004870
05:15:22.380 --> 05:15:24.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nag-hire po ang departamento

asr-004871
05:15:24.080 --> 05:15:26.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng mga college graduates

asr-004872
05:15:26.960 --> 05:15:28.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: or let passers

asr-004873
05:15:28.840 --> 05:15:29.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hindi pa ganap

asr-004874
05:15:29.900 --> 05:15:31.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hired, na teachers

asr-004875
05:15:31.780 --> 05:15:34.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na magtuturo, na magbasa

asr-004876
05:15:34.520 --> 05:15:37.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating mga kabataan.

asr-004877
05:15:37.860 --> 05:15:38.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: They were employed

asr-004878
05:15:38.740 --> 05:15:40.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ating isandaang

asr-004879
05:15:40.840 --> 05:15:42.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nagtuturo

asr-004880
05:15:42.540 --> 05:15:43.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating mga estudyante

asr-004881
05:15:43.980 --> 05:15:46.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa Kaloocan na kung saan

asr-004882
05:15:46.180 --> 05:15:48.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: staggered po 10 days

asr-004883
05:15:48.660 --> 05:15:50.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi ang normal

asr-004884
05:15:50.160 --> 05:15:52.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and standard na

asr-004885
05:15:52.020 --> 05:15:54.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: implementation ng tupad.

asr-004886
05:15:55.020 --> 05:15:56.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Doon sa programang ating binabanggit po

asr-004887
05:15:56.780 --> 05:15:58.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito ay ginawang

asr-004888
05:15:58.120 --> 05:15:59.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 30 days na allowable

asr-004889
05:15:59.880 --> 05:16:01.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: lamang po sa mga ibang programa.

asr-004890
05:16:01.780 --> 05:16:03.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: In short, Madam Speaker,

asr-004891
05:16:04.140 --> 05:16:05.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004892
05:16:06.120 --> 05:16:08.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ginagawa po ng tupad

asr-004893
05:16:08.060 --> 05:16:09.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na stigma noon ay ibang-iba

asr-004894
05:16:09.840 --> 05:16:12.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: noon at ngayon.

asr-004895
05:16:12.780 --> 05:16:13.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kasi po, hindi lamang ito

asr-004896
05:16:13.920 --> 05:16:16.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: magagamit sa ating mga

asr-004897
05:16:16.060 --> 05:16:17.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: streets, but bagkos

asr-004898
05:16:17.280 --> 05:16:20.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay matuturuan na matuto pa

asr-004899
05:16:20.200 --> 05:16:22.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating mga estudyante

asr-004900
05:16:22.380 --> 05:16:23.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: lalong-lalong na

asr-004901
05:16:23.760 --> 05:16:25.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating growing years

asr-004902
05:16:25.280 --> 05:16:26.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng mga ating bata.

asr-004903
05:16:26.800 --> 05:16:29.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And you can double check that,

asr-004904
05:16:29.880 --> 05:16:30.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker and

asr-004905
05:16:30.800 --> 05:16:32.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004906
05:16:32.820 --> 05:16:33.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na sabi ko nga po,

asr-004907
05:16:34.580 --> 05:16:35.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa mga darating pampanahon

asr-004908
05:16:35.780 --> 05:16:37.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: magkakaroon through the leadership

asr-004909
05:16:37.700 --> 05:16:39.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of Secretary Francis Tolentino,

asr-004910
05:16:39.340 --> 05:16:40.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga po,

asr-004911
05:16:40.400 --> 05:16:41.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: noon, last year,

asr-004912
05:16:42.080 --> 05:16:42.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ginawa ko rin po,

asr-004913
05:16:43.100 --> 05:16:43.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga,

asr-004914
05:16:44.220 --> 05:16:45.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung paglinis o pagko-coordination

asr-004915
05:16:45.840 --> 05:16:47.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa local government unit

asr-004916
05:16:47.040 --> 05:16:48.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: patungo sa MRF.

asr-004917
05:16:48.700 --> 05:16:49.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan lang po ay isang

asr-004918
05:16:49.380 --> 05:16:50.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ehemplo.

asr-004919
05:16:54.740 --> 05:16:55.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004920
05:16:56.520 --> 05:16:57.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'm sorry.

asr-004921
05:16:57.260 --> 05:16:59.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I was interrupted, Madam.

asr-004922
05:16:59.880 --> 05:17:00.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

asr-004923
05:17:00.860 --> 05:17:01.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero to wrap it up,

asr-004924
05:17:03.980 --> 05:17:04.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang dahilan po

asr-004925
05:17:04.780 --> 05:17:06.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na pag

asr-004926
05:17:06.360 --> 05:17:08.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ask

asr-004927
05:17:08.840 --> 05:17:11.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng karagdagang pondo

asr-004928
05:17:11.540 --> 05:17:13.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is not for

asr-004929
05:17:13.800 --> 05:17:15.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tupad, na basic

asr-004930
05:17:15.700 --> 05:17:17.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tupad only.

asr-004931
05:17:17.960 --> 05:17:18.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sabi ko nga po,

asr-004932
05:17:19.500 --> 05:17:21.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito ay pinalawak na po natin over time

asr-004933
05:17:21.800 --> 05:17:23.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na sa palagay ko, sa aking palagay,

asr-004934
05:17:24.140 --> 05:17:25.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay hindi lamang makakatulong

asr-004935
05:17:25.840 --> 05:17:27.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa ating ine-empleyo

asr-004936
05:17:27.900 --> 05:17:29.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na magkakaroon ng sweldo, income,

asr-004937
05:17:29.880 --> 05:17:30.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating mga,

asr-004938
05:17:31.160 --> 05:17:32.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: in that, ginawa ko pong example,

asr-004939
05:17:32.800 --> 05:17:33.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung ating mga tutors,

asr-004940
05:17:33.560 --> 05:17:34.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at that same time,

asr-004941
05:17:35.120 --> 05:17:37.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay nagkaroon pa ng magandang benepisyo

asr-004942
05:17:37.420 --> 05:17:39.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa ating mga estudyanting

asr-004943
05:17:39.740 --> 05:17:40.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na turuan po niya.

asr-004944
05:17:41.060 --> 05:17:43.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ito lang po ay nagpapatunay lamang,

asr-004945
05:17:43.300 --> 05:17:45.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito lang po ay sa isang city,

asr-004946
05:17:46.100 --> 05:17:46.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at that same time,

asr-004947
05:17:46.920 --> 05:17:47.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pwede rin pong implement

asr-004948
05:17:47.800 --> 05:17:49.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa mga bawat distrito

asr-004949
05:17:49.220 --> 05:17:50.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o sa bawat regyon

asr-004950
05:17:50.340 --> 05:17:51.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating bansang Pilipinas.

asr-004951
05:17:51.860 --> 05:17:53.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's all, Madam Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

asr-004952
05:17:54.880 --> 05:17:55.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well,

asr-004953
05:17:56.560 --> 05:17:58.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maganda lang po

asr-004954
05:17:58.880 --> 05:17:59.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ating mga tutors,

asr-004955
05:17:59.880 --> 05:18:01.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at this point, dahil pinag-uusapan natin

asr-004956
05:18:01.540 --> 05:18:03.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng TUPAD, mabalikan po natin ang kasaysayan.

asr-004957
05:18:04.260 --> 05:18:05.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kailan po ba nagsimula

asr-004958
05:18:05.580 --> 05:18:07.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung programang TUPAD?

asr-004959
05:18:08.000 --> 05:18:09.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nababanggit ng sponsor,

asr-004960
05:18:09.500 --> 05:18:12.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagsimula ito noong panahon ng pandemic.

asr-004961
05:18:12.420 --> 05:18:13.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Actually, hindi po totoo.

asr-004962
05:18:14.540 --> 05:18:15.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At bahagi po ako ng

asr-004963
05:18:15.760 --> 05:18:17.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kongreso, at nasaksihan ko

asr-004964
05:18:17.660 --> 05:18:19.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung kailan nilikha

asr-004965
05:18:19.680 --> 05:18:21.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung programang TUPAD.

asr-004966
05:18:22.560 --> 05:18:23.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kailan po?

asr-004967
05:18:24.900 --> 05:18:25.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una pong makikita

asr-004968
05:18:25.920 --> 05:18:27.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: natin ang TUPAD

asr-004969
05:18:27.340 --> 05:18:29.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa general

asr-004970
05:18:29.880 --> 05:18:30.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Appropriations Act

asr-004971
05:18:30.920 --> 05:18:33.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 2014.

asr-004972
05:18:35.260 --> 05:18:36.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2014 po.

asr-004973
05:18:37.180 --> 05:18:37.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay?

asr-004974
05:18:38.680 --> 05:18:39.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung balikan nyo

asr-004975
05:18:39.880 --> 05:18:42.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung General Appropriations Act

asr-004976
05:18:42.480 --> 05:18:44.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 2013,

asr-004977
05:18:45.940 --> 05:18:46.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pa pong TUPAD.

asr-004978
05:18:47.440 --> 05:18:47.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa po.

asr-004979
05:18:48.280 --> 05:18:50.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tignan nyo yung, I mean, hindi ko na

asr-004980
05:18:50.340 --> 05:18:52.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mapaflash, ganyan ko lang binuksan muli ito.

asr-004981
05:18:53.460 --> 05:18:54.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero tignan nyo po

asr-004982
05:18:54.260 --> 05:18:55.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa special provisions

asr-004983
05:18:55.720 --> 05:18:59.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Department of Labor and Employment,

asr-004984
05:18:59.280 --> 05:18:59.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dun po,

asr-004985
05:18:59.880 --> 05:19:01.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinapangalanan

asr-004986
05:19:01.160 --> 05:19:03.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga programa, no?

asr-004987
05:19:03.860 --> 05:19:05.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special provision number one,

asr-004988
05:19:05.460 --> 05:19:08.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: verification fees. Special provision number two,

asr-004989
05:19:09.080 --> 05:19:10.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: appropriations for programs

asr-004990
05:19:10.660 --> 05:19:11.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and specific activities.

asr-004991
05:19:12.100 --> 05:19:14.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos binabanggit na yung mga programa,

asr-004992
05:19:14.480 --> 05:19:15.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: walang TUPAD.

asr-004993
05:19:15.440 --> 05:19:16.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2013 po.

asr-004994
05:19:17.320 --> 05:19:18.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2014,

asr-004995
05:19:19.540 --> 05:19:21.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: General Appropriations Act,

asr-004996
05:19:22.540 --> 05:19:23.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eto na po.

asr-004997
05:19:23.860 --> 05:19:25.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special provision number one,

asr-004998
05:19:25.300 --> 05:19:27.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: verification fees, and number two,

asr-004999
05:19:28.140 --> 05:19:29.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government internship program,

asr-005000
05:19:29.420 --> 05:19:30.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama kayo magkaugnayon,

asr-005001
05:19:30.960 --> 05:19:32.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government internship program,

asr-005002
05:19:33.000 --> 05:19:35.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and tulong panghanap buhay

asr-005003
05:19:35.140 --> 05:19:37.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ating disadvantaged workers

asr-005004
05:19:37.740 --> 05:19:39.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: TUPAD project.

asr-005005
05:19:39.780 --> 05:19:41.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan po ang unang-unang pagkakataon

asr-005006
05:19:41.440 --> 05:19:43.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na lumitaw sa budget.

asr-005007
05:19:44.580 --> 05:19:45.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The amount

asr-005008
05:19:45.120 --> 05:19:48.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of 1,022,000,000 pesos

asr-005009
05:19:48.060 --> 05:19:50.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: appropriated herein

asr-005010
05:19:50.120 --> 05:19:51.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under conduct of

asr-005011
05:19:51.580 --> 05:19:53.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: training, livelihood, and enterprise

asr-005012
05:19:53.160 --> 05:19:55.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: development and other capacity

asr-005013
05:19:55.000 --> 05:19:57.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: building programs for

asr-005014
05:19:57.200 --> 05:19:59.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: students, youths, and

asr-005015
05:19:59.200 --> 05:20:01.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: disabled workers, and for

asr-005016
05:20:01.320 --> 05:20:03.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the rural workers, including

asr-005017
05:20:03.160 --> 05:20:05.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: programs for self-organization

asr-005018
05:20:05.460 --> 05:20:07.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for plantation workers,

asr-005019
05:20:07.680 --> 05:20:09.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall be used as follows.

asr-005020
05:20:09.960 --> 05:20:11.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Number one, for the

asr-005021
05:20:11.540 --> 05:20:13.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: payment of stipend of beneficiaries

asr-005022
05:20:13.520 --> 05:20:16.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: equivalent to—

asr-005022-split-2
05:20:16.900 --> 05:20:19.160
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Tinio, that his time has expired.

asr-005022-split-3
05:20:19.160 --> 05:20:25.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, tatapusin na lang po natin. For the payment of stipend of beneficiaries equivalent to 75%

asr-005023
05:20:25.480 --> 05:20:27.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the existing minimum wage

asr-005024
05:20:27.160 --> 05:20:29.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the area during the

asr-005025
05:20:29.180 --> 05:20:31.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: six-month office field training

asr-005026
05:20:31.180 --> 05:20:32.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the government under the GIP.

asr-005027
05:20:33.520 --> 05:20:35.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, six-month stipend po

asr-005028
05:20:35.100 --> 05:20:36.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa GIP.

asr-005029
05:20:37.260 --> 05:20:39.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung number two, for the payment

asr-005030
05:20:39.280 --> 05:20:41.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of wages of displaced workers

asr-005031
05:20:41.540 --> 05:20:43.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: resulting from weather

asr-005032
05:20:43.380 --> 05:20:45.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and regulatory

asr-005033
05:20:45.160 --> 05:20:45.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shocks,

asr-005034
05:20:47.220 --> 05:20:49.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: weather, kalamidad, regulatory

asr-005035
05:20:49.320 --> 05:20:50.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shocks, layoff,

asr-005036
05:20:51.780 --> 05:20:53.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no, because of

asr-005037
05:20:53.460 --> 05:20:55.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: neoliberal economic

asr-005038
05:20:55.160 --> 05:20:57.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: policies, and

asr-005039
05:20:57.080 --> 05:20:59.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: internal conflict. So, sinama po, pati

asr-005040
05:20:59.180 --> 05:21:00.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: internal conflict

asr-005041
05:21:00.180 --> 05:21:03.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: during their short-term employment

asr-005042
05:21:03.320 --> 05:21:05.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the TUPAD project.

asr-005043
05:21:06.260 --> 05:21:07.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, yun po

asr-005044
05:21:07.520 --> 05:21:09.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang una. At binigyan po ng

asr-005045
05:21:09.180 --> 05:21:11.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget ng 1.022 billion.

asr-005046
05:21:12.240 --> 05:21:13.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And from then on,

asr-005047
05:21:14.100 --> 05:21:15.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from then on, lumaki

asr-005048
05:21:15.420 --> 05:21:17.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng lumaki, at yun na nga,

asr-005049
05:21:17.800 --> 05:21:18.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinabi natin,

asr-005050
05:21:19.140 --> 05:21:21.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2016, 600

asr-005051
05:21:21.440 --> 05:21:22.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: billion,

asr-005052
05:21:23.080 --> 05:21:23.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 20,

asr-005053
05:21:24.820 --> 05:21:27.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 20,

asr-005054
05:21:27.480 --> 05:21:27.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 20,

asr-005056
05:21:29.180 --> 05:21:30.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, this year, it's something like

asr-005057
05:21:30.520 --> 05:21:32.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 24 billion. Ganon, ano?

asr-005058
05:21:33.360 --> 05:21:35.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, lumobo nang lumobo na ito.

asr-005059
05:21:35.840 --> 05:21:36.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Bakit po

asr-005060
05:21:36.820 --> 05:21:38.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2014? Ilan po ang gusto

asr-005061
05:21:38.960 --> 05:21:40.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nating ma-put on the record?

asr-005062
05:21:41.180 --> 05:21:43.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Why 2014? The budget

asr-005063
05:21:43.140 --> 05:21:45.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 2014, of course, was approved

asr-005064
05:21:45.240 --> 05:21:47.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the last quarter

asr-005065
05:21:47.140 --> 05:21:48.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of

asr-005066
05:21:48.440 --> 05:21:50.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2013.

asr-005067
05:21:51.060 --> 05:21:52.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? Ano nangyari

asr-005068
05:21:52.700 --> 05:21:55.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung last quarter of 2013?

asr-005069
05:21:55.300 --> 05:21:57.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Specifically, November 2013.

asr-005070
05:21:57.760 --> 05:21:58.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lumabas po ang

asr-005071
05:21:58.820 --> 05:22:00.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Belgica versus Ochoa.

asr-005072
05:22:01.440 --> 05:22:03.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ano yung

asr-005073
05:22:03.920 --> 05:22:05.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Belgica versus Ochoa?

asr-005074
05:22:05.580 --> 05:22:06.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is the landmark

asr-005075
05:22:06.760 --> 05:22:09.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Supreme Court ruling that declared

asr-005076
05:22:09.060 --> 05:22:11.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the PDAF unconstitutional.

asr-005077
05:22:12.700 --> 05:22:14.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po,

asr-005078
05:22:16.580 --> 05:22:17.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa totoo lang,

asr-005079
05:22:17.420 --> 05:22:18.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung TUPAD nilikha

asr-005080
05:22:18.440 --> 05:22:20.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bilang pang-salo

asr-005081
05:22:20.760 --> 05:22:22.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa

asr-005082
05:22:22.400 --> 05:22:23.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: soft

asr-005083
05:22:23.660 --> 05:22:26.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: portion

asr-005086
05:22:28.820 --> 05:22:30.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba? Yung PDAF noon,

asr-005087
05:22:30.420 --> 05:22:31.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: merong hard

asr-005088
05:22:31.120 --> 05:22:32.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for infrastructure

asr-005089
05:22:32.840 --> 05:22:33.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and soft

asr-005090
05:22:33.700 --> 05:22:34.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for

asr-005091
05:22:34.740 --> 05:22:35.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayuda.

asr-005092
05:22:36.640 --> 05:22:36.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon.

asr-005093
05:22:37.620 --> 05:22:38.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dati,

asr-005094
05:22:38.900 --> 05:22:39.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang menu niyan,

asr-005095
05:22:40.200 --> 05:22:41.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mainly for education,

asr-005096
05:22:41.860 --> 05:22:42.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: scholarships,

asr-005097
05:22:42.880 --> 05:22:43.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: health assistance,

asr-005098
05:22:44.780 --> 05:22:45.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and

asr-005099
05:22:45.580 --> 05:22:47.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pa po actually,

asr-005100
05:22:47.620 --> 05:22:47.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: walang

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05:22:47.980 --> 05:22:48.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for employment.

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05:22:50.000 --> 05:22:50.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005103
05:22:50.960 --> 05:22:52.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nilikha po ang tupad

asr-005104
05:22:52.460 --> 05:22:56.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa General Appropriations Act

asr-005105
05:22:56.180 --> 05:22:56.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 2014

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05:22:56.940 --> 05:22:58.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para ilagay doon,

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05:22:58.820 --> 05:23:01.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung dating pondo

asr-005108
05:23:01.120 --> 05:23:02.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga congressman

asr-005109
05:23:02.320 --> 05:23:05.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na kanilang soft pork barrel

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05:23:05.880 --> 05:23:06.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or PDAF.

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05:23:07.040 --> 05:23:08.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po ang origin yan.

asr-005112
05:23:08.540 --> 05:23:10.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya alam naman natin, hanggang ngayon,

asr-005113
05:23:10.820 --> 05:23:12.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganon pa rin ang nature

asr-005114
05:23:12.160 --> 05:23:14.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng tupad.

asr-005115
05:23:15.680 --> 05:23:16.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes,

asr-005116
05:23:17.140 --> 05:23:19.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: major, it is the biggest

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05:23:19.060 --> 05:23:19.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: program

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05:23:19.740 --> 05:23:23.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Department of Labor and Employment,

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05:23:24.000 --> 05:23:24.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero sa totoo lang,

asr-005120
05:23:24.940 --> 05:23:26.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: alam naman natin, yung tupad,

asr-005121
05:23:27.540 --> 05:23:28.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's patronage-based.

asr-005122
05:23:28.820 --> 05:23:31.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga benepisyaryo niyan,

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05:23:31.960 --> 05:23:32.500
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: representative,

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05:23:32.780 --> 05:23:34.620
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: that his time has expired.

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05:23:34.820 --> 05:23:36.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang mga benepisyaryo niyan,

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05:23:37.200 --> 05:23:38.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay yung listahan

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05:23:38.760 --> 05:23:40.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na binibigay ng mga congressman.

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05:23:41.460 --> 05:23:42.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba, ganon pa rin naman

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05:23:42.640 --> 05:23:44.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nature ng tupad hanggang ngayon?

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05:23:47.340 --> 05:23:48.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kahit po, tapos na po yung oras

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05:23:48.720 --> 05:23:50.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating distinguished colleague.

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05:23:50.240 --> 05:23:51.880
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: The sponsor may or may not respond.

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05:23:51.880 --> 05:23:52.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I will answer that,

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05:23:53.520 --> 05:23:55.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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05:23:56.300 --> 05:23:56.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam po nyo,

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05:23:56.620 --> 05:23:58.400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa timeline po ninyong

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05:23:58.400 --> 05:24:00.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: binigay, tama po, 2014,

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05:24:00.860 --> 05:24:02.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na lumitaw yan sa ating

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05:24:02.060 --> 05:24:03.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: General Appropriations Act.

asr-005140
05:24:04.600 --> 05:24:06.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It started out, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-005141
05:24:06.920 --> 05:24:08.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na ito po ay proyekto lamang

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05:24:08.240 --> 05:24:08.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 2009.

asr-005143
05:24:09.980 --> 05:24:12.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And as I said earlier,

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05:24:12.880 --> 05:24:14.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: based on your statement and your graph,

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05:24:15.080 --> 05:24:16.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na tama, unang lumabas ito sa

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05:24:16.760 --> 05:24:18.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 2014 na

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05:24:18.640 --> 05:24:19.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: General Appropriations Act.

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05:24:20.740 --> 05:24:22.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Now, during that timeline,

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05:24:23.940 --> 05:24:24.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung sinasabi nyo po

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05:24:24.740 --> 05:24:25.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasing menu, I cannot

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05:24:25.880 --> 05:24:28.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: answer to that.

asr-005152
05:24:28.400 --> 05:24:35.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Because, hindi ko po alam kung saan yung nakita yan o what so ever.

asr-005153
05:24:35.080 --> 05:24:37.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But, dole, pat-dole,

asr-005154
05:24:37.080 --> 05:24:39.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: on our part, kasi

asr-005155
05:24:39.080 --> 05:24:41.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang proseso po namin,

asr-005156
05:24:41.080 --> 05:24:43.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pag may tupad is, yes,

asr-005157
05:24:43.080 --> 05:24:45.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kaya po lumalobo yung

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05:24:45.080 --> 05:24:47.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Office of the Secretary, pero ito po ay

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05:24:47.080 --> 05:24:49.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: idadownload naman po namin sa

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05:24:49.080 --> 05:24:52.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ating mga regional offices.

asr-005161
05:24:52.080 --> 05:24:56.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And based sa aming requirements, procedure,

asr-005162
05:24:56.080 --> 05:24:58.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at dadaan din po sa

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05:24:58.400 --> 05:25:00.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: peso, para siguraduhin natin

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05:25:00.780 --> 05:25:02.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: validated yung mga nandyan.

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05:25:03.340 --> 05:25:03.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At

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05:25:03.520 --> 05:25:06.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: in our case,

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05:25:07.080 --> 05:25:08.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga po, dumadaan sa

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05:25:08.540 --> 05:25:10.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: peso na laging

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05:25:10.320 --> 05:25:12.500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kaakibat o kaalakbay

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05:25:12.500 --> 05:25:14.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating Department of Labor and Employment.

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05:25:15.020 --> 05:25:15.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's all, Madam Speaker.

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05:25:16.040 --> 05:25:18.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa sagot.

asr-005173
05:25:19.080 --> 05:25:20.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At bilang pagwakas,

asr-005174
05:25:21.160 --> 05:25:22.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dinidihin po natin,

asr-005175
05:25:22.380 --> 05:25:24.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang punto natin sa interpelasyon ito,

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05:25:25.000 --> 05:25:26.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ipakita yung

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05:25:26.680 --> 05:25:28.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagkainutin,

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05:25:28.400 --> 05:25:30.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magpapahirap na

asr-005179
05:25:30.400 --> 05:25:32.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng patakaran ng

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05:25:32.400 --> 05:25:34.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regionalized wage setting,

asr-005181
05:25:34.400 --> 05:25:36.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sa totoo lang ay

asr-005182
05:25:36.400 --> 05:25:38.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: municipalized and localized pa nga.

asr-005183
05:25:38.400 --> 05:25:40.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagpapahirap na,

asr-005184
05:25:40.400 --> 05:25:42.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malinaw na nagpapahirap

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05:25:42.400 --> 05:25:44.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga gagawang Pilipino

asr-005186
05:25:44.400 --> 05:25:46.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa halip na ipinagtatanggol

asr-005187
05:25:46.400 --> 05:25:48.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang karapatan niya sa nakabubuhay

asr-005188
05:25:48.400 --> 05:25:50.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sahod. So,

asr-005189
05:25:50.400 --> 05:25:52.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naka-address po ito sa Kongreso,

asr-005190
05:25:52.400 --> 05:25:54.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat ipasa na

asr-005191
05:25:54.400 --> 05:25:56.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay balik ang National

asr-005192
05:25:56.400 --> 05:25:58.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Legislated Wage Increase, at kailangan,

asr-005193
05:25:58.380 --> 05:26:00.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakabata ito sa Family Living Wage.

asr-005194
05:26:00.380 --> 05:26:02.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, numaabot sa 1,300 a day.

asr-005195
05:26:02.380 --> 05:26:04.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pangalawa,

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05:26:04.380 --> 05:26:06.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: panahon na po

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05:26:06.380 --> 05:26:08.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para ibalik

asr-005198
05:26:08.380 --> 05:26:10.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang DOLE sa kanyang

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05:26:10.380 --> 05:26:12.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangunahing mandato.

asr-005200
05:26:12.380 --> 05:26:14.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi siya isang

asr-005201
05:26:14.380 --> 05:26:16.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayuda agency,

asr-005202
05:26:16.380 --> 05:26:18.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung hindi ahensya na dapat

asr-005203
05:26:18.380 --> 05:26:20.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakatutok sa pagbantay

asr-005204
05:26:20.380 --> 05:26:22.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at pagprotekta sa

asr-005205
05:26:22.380 --> 05:26:24.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: karapatan ng manggagawang

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05:26:24.380 --> 05:26:26.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pilipino. Kaya, itutulak po

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05:26:26.380 --> 05:26:28.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: natin na dapat

asr-005208
05:26:28.380 --> 05:26:30.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tanggalin na,

asr-005209
05:26:30.380 --> 05:26:32.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bawasan ng malaki, kundi man tanggalin

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05:26:32.380 --> 05:26:34.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang

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05:26:34.380 --> 05:26:36.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakalaking budget sa tupad,

asr-005212
05:26:36.380 --> 05:26:38.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilipat sa core functions

asr-005213
05:26:38.380 --> 05:26:40.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng

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05:26:40.380 --> 05:26:42.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: core functions and programs

asr-005215
05:26:42.380 --> 05:26:44.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOLE, at yung

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05:26:44.380 --> 05:26:46.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mas malaking bahagi ay

asr-005217
05:26:46.380 --> 05:26:48.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dalhin sa ibang mga

asr-005218
05:26:48.380 --> 05:26:50.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pangangailangan na kinaltasan ngayon

asr-005219
05:26:50.380 --> 05:26:52.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa edukasyon,

asr-005220
05:26:52.380 --> 05:26:54.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kalusugan, at iba pang

asr-005221
05:26:54.380 --> 05:26:56.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: social services. Hanggang doon na lamang po,

asr-005222
05:26:56.380 --> 05:26:58.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

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05:26:58.380 --> 05:27:00.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

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05:27:00.380 --> 05:27:02.380
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

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05:27:02.380 --> 05:27:04.380
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Madam Speaker, I move that we

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05:27:04.380 --> 05:27:06.380
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: recognize Representative Sara Jane

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05:27:06.380 --> 05:27:08.380
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: Elago of Gabriela Women's Party

asr-005228
05:27:08.380 --> 05:27:10.380
Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero: List for her interpolation.

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05:27:10.380 --> 05:27:12.380
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Sara Jane Elago of

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05:27:12.380 --> 05:27:14.380
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby

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05:27:14.380 --> 05:27:16.380
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: recognized for her interpolation.

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05:27:18.380 --> 05:27:20.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, na

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05:27:20.380 --> 05:27:22.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: iskong magsimula sa manipastasyon

asr-005234
05:27:22.380 --> 05:27:24.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilang pagsuporta sa paninindigan

asr-005235
05:27:24.380 --> 05:27:26.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga nauna nating kasamahan,

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05:27:26.380 --> 05:27:28.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na pagdating sa

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05:27:28.380 --> 05:27:30.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: panawagan ng mga manggagawa,

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05:27:30.380 --> 05:27:32.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga kababaihan

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05:27:32.380 --> 05:27:34.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na itaas na ang

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05:27:34.380 --> 05:27:36.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sahod. Hindi

asr-005241
05:27:36.380 --> 05:27:38.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat gawin na pamalit sa

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05:27:38.380 --> 05:27:40.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Wage Order Number NCR-27

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05:27:40.380 --> 05:27:42.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Wage Order Number NCR-28

asr-005244
05:27:42.380 --> 05:27:44.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na magiging

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05:27:44.380 --> 05:27:46.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: efektibo lamang sa Setiembre

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05:27:46.380 --> 05:27:48.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 26. Ang dagdag

asr-005247
05:27:48.380 --> 05:27:50.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sahod mula Wage Order 27

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05:27:50.380 --> 05:27:52.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na dapat 85 peso

asr-005249
05:27:52.380 --> 05:27:54.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa dalawang tranches

asr-005250
05:27:54.380 --> 05:27:56.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi natanggap ng mga manggagawa

asr-005251
05:27:56.380 --> 05:27:58.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: simula Julyo 2026

asr-005252
05:27:58.380 --> 05:28:00.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay dagdag sana sa kanilang

asr-005253
05:28:00.380 --> 05:28:02.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pang-araw-araw na gastusin

asr-005254
05:28:02.380 --> 05:28:04.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa gitna ng walang humpay na

asr-005255
05:28:04.380 --> 05:28:06.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtaas ng presyo ng mga bilihin.

asr-005256
05:28:06.380 --> 05:28:08.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong nalantad ang

asr-005257
05:28:08.380 --> 05:28:10.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bulok na sistemang pasahod

asr-005258
05:28:10.380 --> 05:28:12.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ilalim ng Regional

asr-005259
05:28:12.380 --> 05:28:14.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Wage Boards. Ito rin ang dahilan

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05:28:14.380 --> 05:28:16.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung bakit ang mga manggagawa ay

asr-005261
05:28:16.380 --> 05:28:18.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: patuloy na nakakulong

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05:28:18.380 --> 05:28:20.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa napakababang sahod na

asr-005263
05:28:20.380 --> 05:28:22.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi sapat para sa kanilang mga

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05:28:22.380 --> 05:28:24.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pamilya at hindi rin sapat para

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05:28:24.380 --> 05:28:26.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa isang pamumuhay

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05:28:26.380 --> 05:28:28.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may dignidad. Dapat nang buwagin

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05:28:28.380 --> 05:28:30.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga Regional Wage Boards at

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05:28:30.380 --> 05:28:32.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itakda ang isang pambansang

asr-005269
05:28:32.380 --> 05:28:34.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: minimum wage na nakabubuhay

asr-005270
05:28:34.380 --> 05:28:36.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa buong bansa. Ngayon,

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05:28:36.380 --> 05:28:38.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kaugnay nito, Madam Speaker,

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05:28:38.380 --> 05:28:40.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Pilipinas ngayon

asr-005273
05:28:40.380 --> 05:28:42.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nasa ilalim pa rin ng State of

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05:28:42.380 --> 05:28:44.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: National Energy Emergency

asr-005275
05:28:44.380 --> 05:28:46.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa visa ng Executive Order

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05:28:46.380 --> 05:28:48.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Number 110. At isa sa

asr-005277
05:28:48.380 --> 05:28:50.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga puna ng ating representasyon

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05:28:50.380 --> 05:28:52.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating dito, hindi kasama

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05:28:52.380 --> 05:28:54.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Department of Labor and Employment

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05:28:54.380 --> 05:28:56.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa mga pangunahin

asr-005281
05:28:56.380 --> 05:28:58.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga agencies

asr-005282
05:28:58.380 --> 05:29:00.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na dapat ay kasama nito

asr-005283
05:29:00.380 --> 05:29:02.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mag-aral kung ano ba ang epekto sa

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05:29:02.380 --> 05:29:04.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: industriya, sa kabuhayan, sa trabaho.

asr-005285
05:29:04.380 --> 05:29:06.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At natanong po natin

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05:29:06.380 --> 05:29:08.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung nakasama na ba ang DOLE

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05:29:08.380 --> 05:29:10.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga meetings

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05:29:10.380 --> 05:29:12.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Uplift Committee

asr-005289
05:29:12.380 --> 05:29:14.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at napag-uusapan ba ngayon

asr-005290
05:29:14.380 --> 05:29:16.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil

asr-005291
05:29:16.380 --> 05:29:18.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron na namang

asr-005292
05:29:18.380 --> 05:29:20.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pangalawa na malaking

asr-005293
05:29:20.380 --> 05:29:22.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: oil price hike

asr-005294
05:29:22.380 --> 05:29:24.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayong linggo.

asr-005295
05:29:24.380 --> 05:29:26.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mataas na naman ang presyo

asr-005296
05:29:26.380 --> 05:29:28.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng diesel, gasolina, LPG,

asr-005297
05:29:28.380 --> 05:29:30.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kerosene. At maski ang Kongreso

asr-005298
05:29:30.380 --> 05:29:32.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito na

asr-005299
05:29:32.380 --> 05:29:34.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagpasa ng pagkakaroon

asr-005300
05:29:34.380 --> 05:29:36.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng emergency powers

asr-005301
05:29:36.380 --> 05:29:38.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa Presidente na suspendihin

asr-005302
05:29:38.380 --> 05:29:40.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang excise taxes,

asr-005303
05:29:40.380 --> 05:29:42.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ngayon po wala na

asr-005304
05:29:42.380 --> 05:29:44.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na in effect. Dahil

asr-005305
05:29:44.380 --> 05:29:46.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nag-expire na yung para

asr-005306
05:29:46.380 --> 05:29:48.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa suspension ng excise

asr-005307
05:29:48.380 --> 05:29:50.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: taxes sa LPG at kerosene

asr-005308
05:29:50.380 --> 05:29:52.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: after 3 months, simula nung April

asr-005309
05:29:52.380 --> 05:29:54.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na masuspend ito. Sa ngayon, may

asr-005310
05:29:54.380 --> 05:29:56.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: balita bang DOLE? Nakasama na ba kayo

asr-005311
05:29:56.380 --> 05:29:58.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito sa mga meetings

asr-005312
05:29:58.380 --> 05:29:59.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Uplift? At ano yung mga

asr-005313
05:29:59.920 --> 05:30:01.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: recommendations ninyo para

asr-005314
05:30:01.680 --> 05:30:10.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: masuportahan yung impact sa jobs ngayong taon at sa susunod na taon ng pagtaas ng presyo ng langis?

asr-005315
05:30:11.980 --> 05:30:21.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, tungkol po dun sa inyong katanungan na kung kasama po ang Department of Labor and Employment dun sa ating uplift na kung saan,

asr-005316
05:30:21.300 --> 05:30:39.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the answer is yes, tatlong beses na pong nakasama sa pagpupulong ang ating Department of Labor and Employment and tinitignan ko po yung oras, hindi po bukas, mamaya po meron na pong pagpupulong at dadalo po muli ang ating Departamento ng Labor and Employment.

asr-005317
05:30:39.660 --> 05:30:54.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa pagpupulong na ito, Madam Speaker, nagkaroon na ng pagtaas, wage order para sa NCR, meron bang plano para sa labas naman ng NCR sa mga susunod na panahon?

asr-005318
05:30:54.900 --> 05:31:01.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, your question is kung may kasunod pang wage order?

asr-005318-split-2
05:31:01.700 --> 05:31:03.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Outside NCR.

asr-005318-split-3
05:31:03.100 --> 05:31:04.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Outside NCR? Yes.

asr-005318-split-4
05:31:04.780 --> 05:31:05.310
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Akin na yung

asr-005319
05:31:09.960 --> 05:31:21.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ito po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ang mga rehyong pinakamalapit na anibersaaryo ng kanilang kasulukoy ang wage orders ay Regions 7, 4A, and 3.

asr-005320
05:31:21.300 --> 05:31:29.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At region 3. At babasahin ko po yung anibersaary dates para at least klaro po yung ating kung kailan.

asr-005321
05:31:29.340 --> 05:31:41.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yung anibersaary date po ng 7 is October 4, 2026. Region 4A is October 5 of 2026. And region 3 is October 30 of 2026.

asr-005322
05:31:41.760 --> 05:31:47.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon, ang scheduled date of consultations, it varies.

asr-005323
05:31:48.300 --> 05:31:51.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At siguro po yung ating date of publication.

asr-005324
05:31:51.300 --> 05:31:56.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At siguro po yung ating date of publication notice of public hearings. Sa ating Region 7 was August 5, 2026.

asr-005325
05:31:57.940 --> 05:32:06.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Region 4A was August 7 of 2026. And region 3 was September 19 of 2026.

asr-005326
05:32:07.600 --> 05:32:12.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And the date of public hearings, again, Region 7 is August 24 and 25 of 2026.

asr-005327
05:32:13.640 --> 05:32:17.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Also, September 3 and 4 of the year, again, 2026.

asr-005328
05:32:17.320 --> 05:32:21.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Patungo naman po sa Region 4A, again, August 25, 2026.

asr-005329
05:32:21.300 --> 05:32:26.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And 15 and 17 of September, 2026.

asr-005330
05:32:27.840 --> 05:32:33.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Last region, Region 3 po, October 5, 14, 20, and 21 of 2026.

asr-005331
05:32:33.420 --> 05:32:35.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: November 5, 9, and 11 of 2026.

asr-005332
05:32:36.080 --> 05:32:41.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So, yung tatlong regiyon po, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, ang mga nakatakdang mga wage orders sa mga susunod.

asr-005333
05:32:42.420 --> 05:32:46.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maganda po marinig na may mga updates.

asr-005334
05:32:46.280 --> 05:32:51.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero, muli, sa ngayon talaga, sa panahon ngayon, hindi lang bari-bari ang kasunod.

asr-005335
05:32:51.300 --> 05:32:58.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagtataas yung kinakailangan natin. Ang Kongreso mismo ang dapat kumilos para sa pagkakaroon ng Legislated Wage Increase.

asr-005336
05:32:58.680 --> 05:33:08.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bukod pa dyan, ay lakasan din ang boses tungkol sa pagtatanggal ng mga patong-patong na buwis na pinapataw ngayon sa ating mga kababayan,

asr-005337
05:33:08.600 --> 05:33:12.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga batayang pangangailangan sa pagkain, sa kuryente, sa langis.

asr-005338
05:33:13.200 --> 05:33:18.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Talaga pong napakabigat niyan para sa mga ordinaryong mga manggagawa, sa mga ordinaryong Pilipino.

asr-005339
05:33:18.800 --> 05:33:20.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, sa...

asr-005340
05:33:21.300 --> 05:33:26.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Report na nasubmit sa atin ng DOLE, mula 2022 hanggang 2025,

asr-005341
05:33:27.520 --> 05:33:40.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa 50.05 milyon ang nakolekta na penalties mula sa mga establishments na lumabag sa OSH standards at naideposito na sa Bureau of Treasury.

asr-005342
05:33:41.720 --> 05:33:47.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ayon sa report, hindi ito naa-access ng DOLE para sa implementation ng OSH law.

asr-005343
05:33:47.620 --> 05:33:50.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari bang malaman bakit ganito yung nangyayari?

asr-005344
05:33:51.300 --> 05:33:54.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, malaking pondo ito.

asr-005345
05:33:54.700 --> 05:34:04.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero yung dapat sana, ayon sa batas, na nagagamit natin para sa occupational safety and health training and education

asr-005346
05:34:04.680 --> 05:34:11.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at iba pang mga programa pang kalusugan na may kinalaman din sa occupational safety,

asr-005347
05:34:11.180 --> 05:34:21.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay wala pa pong naka-airmark na pondo na tiyak na magagamit para sa mahal.

asr-005348
05:34:21.300 --> 05:34:22.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano talagang mga programang ito?

asr-005349
05:34:23.340 --> 05:34:25.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-005350
05:34:25.520 --> 05:34:31.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And yung nakolekta po is 15,569,000.

asr-005351
05:34:31.260 --> 05:34:34.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And sadly, kailangan po ito ng...

asr-005352
05:34:34.700 --> 05:34:37.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya po ito hindi nagagamit ang inyong katanungan.

asr-005353
05:34:37.100 --> 05:34:42.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: It's because sa ating General Appropriations Act, kailangan po ng special provisions sa JA

asr-005354
05:34:42.460 --> 05:34:46.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para ito ay magamit ng ating OSH,

asr-005355
05:34:46.740 --> 05:34:49.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para ito ay magamit po natin sa mga susunod na...

asr-005356
05:34:51.300 --> 05:34:53.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: mag-utilize ng ating mga pondo.

asr-005357
05:34:53.660 --> 05:34:57.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So, timingly po, hindi pa naman po tapos yung ating...

asr-005358
05:34:57.600 --> 05:34:59.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: We're just in the middle of the budget deliberations.

asr-005359
05:35:00.460 --> 05:35:07.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Siguro po, through your representation, ay siguraduhin natin kasi lagi pong nakakaligtaan, unfortunately.

asr-005360
05:35:07.620 --> 05:35:10.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So ngayon, sana po, with you, stating it for the record,

asr-005361
05:35:10.640 --> 05:35:14.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na sana po na magkaroon na ng special provision dito para ito ay magamit na ng aming departamento.

asr-005362
05:35:15.880 --> 05:35:21.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ang mungkahi ng doling ay magdagdag nga ng special provision.

asr-005363
05:35:21.300 --> 05:35:27.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ating General Appropriations Bill, para maisama na ang pagbibigay ng authority

asr-005364
05:35:27.120 --> 05:35:32.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa DOLE na gamitin ang 10% ng mga nakolekta ng mga fines

asr-005365
05:35:32.500 --> 05:35:36.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa operasyon ng Occupational Safety and Health Initiatives

asr-005366
05:35:36.780 --> 05:35:40.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kabilang na ang training, education, at health programs.

asr-005367
05:35:40.220 --> 05:35:45.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari po bang malaman kung bakit ang proposal ng DOLE ay paggamit lamang ng 10%?

asr-005368
05:35:46.200 --> 05:35:50.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi ba dapat mas mataas pa yung kinakailangan natin?

asr-005369
05:35:50.160 --> 05:35:55.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para matiyak na mas malawak yung maabot ng mga mahalagang programa na ito?

asr-005370
05:35:56.440 --> 05:36:02.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron din ba kayong insights kung saan po nagagamit yung mga nakolekta naman itong mga nakaraang taon

asr-005371
05:36:02.300 --> 05:36:06.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula ng mapalakas natin ang OSLO sa ating bansa?

asr-005372
05:36:10.780 --> 05:36:17.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, well initially, tama po kayo na yung 10% lamang yung hinihingi ng DOLE.

asr-005373
05:36:17.620 --> 05:36:20.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But for the record, pwede naman pong taas.

asr-005374
05:36:20.160 --> 05:36:24.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But the reason of being which na bakit ito po ay 10% lamang is because

asr-005375
05:36:24.900 --> 05:36:33.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: one, it's for capacity building muna and may sariling pondo rin yung ibang ahensya tulad ng DA, DOTR, DOH.

asr-005376
05:36:34.080 --> 05:36:34.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So that's the reason.

asr-005377
05:36:35.120 --> 05:36:40.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But for the record, as per Department of Labor Employment, pwede naman po itong taasan.

asr-005378
05:36:42.040 --> 05:36:48.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mahalagay ito, Madam Speaker, kasi bagamat may mga kanya-kanyang pondo din yung ibat-ibang mga NGAs natin,

asr-005379
05:36:48.700 --> 05:36:56.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: siyempre kailangan din natin yung malawak na partisipasyon ng pribadong sektor pagdating sa pagsunod sa OSLO.

asr-005380
05:36:56.540 --> 05:37:06.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya bawat piso na mailalaan natin sa programa para dun sa prevention ng kahit anong violations ng OSH standards ay napakalaga.

asr-005381
05:37:07.400 --> 05:37:15.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil hindi dapat tayo tumutugon lang kapag may nangyari na aksidente na hindi na dapat nangyayari

asr-005382
05:37:15.900 --> 05:37:18.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga lugar ng hanap buhay.

asr-005383
05:37:18.660 --> 05:37:25.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hanap buhay nga, di ba? Hindi hanap aksidente o hindi hanap patay sa pinakamalalang pangyayari.

asr-005384
05:37:26.100 --> 05:37:33.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya dapat mas mataas yung nilalaan natin na pagtulak sa mga preventive efforts.

asr-005385
05:37:34.480 --> 05:37:41.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, at ang bagay po na yan, ang paglalaan at pagdadagdag ng ganitong special provision

asr-005386
05:37:41.220 --> 05:37:48.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay isusulong ng representasyon na ito na dapat suportahan din ng ating distinguished sponsor.

asr-005387
05:37:48.040 --> 05:37:54.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po tayo masasapat lang sa 10%. Kung pwedeng mas mataas pa, dapat gawin nating suportahan yan.

asr-005388
05:37:54.760 --> 05:38:06.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, nais kong magtanong tungkol sa mekanismo ng DOLE para matugunan ang problema ng underemployment sa ating bansa.

asr-005389
05:38:06.660 --> 05:38:18.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa pinakahuling datos ng PSA, nito lang huling linggo na lumabas, pumalo na sa 12.1% ngayong June 2026.

asr-005390
05:38:18.040 --> 05:38:22.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po bang particular na programa para dito ang DOLE?

asr-005391
05:38:23.100 --> 05:38:35.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi ito po ay nilapit din natin kahapon sa DepDev na hindi pa sila naaalarma na pagkalaki-laki po ng underemployed sa ating bansa.

asr-005392
05:38:35.980 --> 05:38:44.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasama dito, Madam Speaker, yung hindi umaabot sa 40 hours kada linggo ang kanilang oras ng trabaho.

asr-005393
05:38:44.020 --> 05:38:47.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po mas maliit yung kanilang kinikita.

asr-005394
05:38:48.040 --> 05:38:59.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandito rin po, Madam Speaker, yung mga bukod sa kanilang trabaho, naghahanap pa ng ibang mga dagdag, pang racket, para lang makadagdag sa kanila pong income.

asr-005395
05:39:00.080 --> 05:39:06.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron ba tayong particular programs and initiatives na may kinalaman sa pagtugon sa issue na ito?

asr-005396
05:39:07.240 --> 05:39:11.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ako po inipapasalamat at tinanong mo yan.

asr-005397
05:39:11.380 --> 05:39:17.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sa pagkat, yun sa ating underemployment, alam naman po natin ang depenisyon.

asr-005398
05:39:18.040 --> 05:39:24.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nating kailangan ulitin na yung ating mga kababayan na naginais pa na magkaroon ng dagdagkita.

asr-005399
05:39:25.600 --> 05:39:29.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At sa kasalukuyan, ito po ay nasa 12.9 percent.

asr-005400
05:39:30.020 --> 05:39:34.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: O pag tinanslate mo yan ay 6.33 million.

asr-005401
05:39:35.120 --> 05:39:42.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At ang inyong katanungan po ay, nakuha ng mga programa ng aming departamento na ito ay para tugunan.

asr-005402
05:39:42.880 --> 05:39:47.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam nyo po, tupad is one of the key factors.

asr-005403
05:39:48.040 --> 05:39:49.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Na nilalagay po natin yan.

asr-005404
05:39:49.680 --> 05:39:56.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kanina po, tinatanong po tayo ng ating mga kasamahan kung bakit natin na ganong kalaki yung ating pondo is because,

asr-005405
05:39:56.980 --> 05:40:01.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: alam mo, pag pumunta ka po sa isang lugar na probinsya, ito po ay napakalaking tulong.

asr-005406
05:40:02.180 --> 05:40:06.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At yun po ay ang isa sa mga katugunan natin doon sa underemployment.

asr-005407
05:40:06.780 --> 05:40:12.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Let's face the reality, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, minsan talaga sa mga probinsya ay kailangan-kailangan ito.

asr-005408
05:40:12.520 --> 05:40:16.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero hindi lang po doon nagtatapos yung ating pagtulong sa pertaining sa underemployment.

asr-005409
05:40:16.680 --> 05:40:18.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Alam mo, studies have shown that,

asr-005410
05:40:18.040 --> 05:40:20.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa ating labor force na kalalabas lamang,

asr-005411
05:40:21.240 --> 05:40:26.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na importanteng-importante rin yung ating mga ibang programa ng DOLE tulad ng Job Start,

asr-005412
05:40:26.480 --> 05:40:30.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: tulad ng ating pagugunayan sa peso, job fairs,

asr-005413
05:40:30.100 --> 05:40:35.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na para sa kung saan ay makita natin yung ating mga needs ng ating mga employers.

asr-005414
05:40:36.200 --> 05:40:40.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maaring kasi, based on study na rin also, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-005415
05:40:40.620 --> 05:40:45.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kalimitan ay nagmi-mismatch, nagkakaroon ng mismatch doon sa ating mga aplikante.

asr-005416
05:40:45.200 --> 05:40:48.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At the same time, doon papasok yung aming mga binanggit,

asr-005417
05:40:48.040 --> 05:40:53.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na apat na programa ng Departamento para at least kahit papano makatugunan yung mga pangangailangan ng ating mga gagawa.

asr-005418
05:40:55.640 --> 05:40:57.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

asr-005419
05:40:57.640 --> 05:41:00.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit tulad na rin ang nasabi ng ating Distinguished Sponsor,

asr-005420
05:41:01.360 --> 05:41:03.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may ambag, may relief, pero temporary lang.

asr-005421
05:41:04.200 --> 05:41:06.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang panawagan ng ating mga kababayan,

asr-005422
05:41:07.460 --> 05:41:12.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas maraming job opportunities na regular, sigurado para sa kanila.

asr-005423
05:41:12.500 --> 05:41:17.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya dapat makita rin natin yung ganyang pagtingin, yung ganyang prinsipyo,

asr-005424
05:41:17.600 --> 05:41:20.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kung paano natin binibigyan ng pondo yung ating mga programa.

asr-005425
05:41:21.200 --> 05:41:23.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi lang para sa mga short-term temporary relief,

asr-005426
05:41:24.040 --> 05:41:29.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero para doon sa mga pangmatagalan na paglikha ng trabaho dito sa bansa.

asr-005427
05:41:30.100 --> 05:41:34.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, tungkol po sa social amelioration program,

asr-005428
05:41:35.460 --> 05:41:42.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang galing po sa ulat na binigay ng DOLE mula 2024 hanggang 2025,

asr-005429
05:41:42.080 --> 05:41:47.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakapagbigay ng ₱48.91 million sa 3,764 mill workers.

asr-005430
05:41:47.600 --> 05:41:55.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ₱93.56 million sa 437,667 field workers.

asr-005431
05:41:55.740 --> 05:41:57.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung ikukompute ito, Madam Speaker,

asr-005432
05:41:58.440 --> 05:42:04.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa P213 pesos lang, P213.76 pesos lang ang matatanggap ng field workers,

asr-005433
05:42:05.280 --> 05:42:09.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: samantalang nasa P12,993 per mill workers.

asr-005434
05:42:10.540 --> 05:42:11.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang tanong ko dito,

asr-005435
05:42:13.260 --> 05:42:16.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tama po ba na sa ngayon ang binibigay natin kada mill workers?

asr-005436
05:42:17.600 --> 05:42:22.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang binibigay sa mill workers ay nasa mga ₱2,000 to ₱3,000,

asr-005437
05:42:22.780 --> 05:42:28.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: samantalang sa field workers, nasa P200 pesos lang po yung binibigay sa ngayon.

asr-005439
05:43:01.560 --> 05:43:02.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-005440
05:43:02.560 --> 05:43:03.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: my distinguished colleague,

asr-005441
05:43:03.780 --> 05:43:04.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: one-minute suspension.

asr-005442
05:43:05.140 --> 05:43:09.480
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended.

asr-005447
05:44:37.540 --> 05:44:38.860
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed.

asr-005448
05:44:41.520 --> 05:44:49.230
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Ah tama po doon sa ating average na binanggit ng ating distinguished colleague.

asr-005449
05:44:49.240 --> 05:45:00.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And I'd like to point out, sa determination of the cash bonus. Nakalagay po rito that amount of cash bonus being distributed to field workers amounts to a maximum of 10,000, while the amount received by mill

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05:45:00.000 --> 05:45:02.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: workers amounting to a maximum of 15,000

asr-005451
05:45:02.160 --> 05:45:04.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distributed at the end of

asr-005452
05:45:04.120 --> 05:45:05.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the year, Madam Speaker Distinguished Colleague.

asr-005453
05:45:06.940 --> 05:45:07.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam

asr-005454
05:45:07.960 --> 05:45:10.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Speaker. Ngunit, sa panahon po

asr-005455
05:45:10.120 --> 05:45:11.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ngayon, abatay po sa ating mga

asr-005456
05:45:11.960 --> 05:45:13.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: konsultasyon sa mga mill workers

asr-005457
05:45:13.940 --> 05:45:16.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at mga field workers sa sugar

asr-005458
05:45:16.020 --> 05:45:18.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: industry, meron ho nakakatanggap

asr-005459
05:45:18.240 --> 05:45:19.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng singliit ng 200

asr-005460
05:45:19.800 --> 05:45:22.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to 300 pesos. Hindi po

asr-005461
05:45:22.080 --> 05:45:24.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makatarungan yan dahil sa pang-araw-araw

asr-005462
05:45:24.340 --> 05:45:26.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa lang nagastusin ng mga

asr-005463
05:45:26.200 --> 05:45:28.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: manggagawang bukid. Sa tubuhan,

asr-005464
05:45:28.520 --> 05:45:30.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na ngayon, ata,

asr-005465
05:45:30.600 --> 05:45:32.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: panahon ng Tiempo Muerto,

asr-005466
05:45:32.660 --> 05:45:34.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: wala po talagang kinikita

asr-005467
05:45:34.680 --> 05:45:36.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ating mga kababayan.

asr-005468
05:45:37.320 --> 05:45:38.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya sinusuportahan ang

asr-005469
05:45:38.420 --> 05:45:40.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kinatawan na ito, ang panawagan

asr-005470
05:45:40.700 --> 05:45:42.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga manggagawang bukid

asr-005471
05:45:42.340 --> 05:45:44.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa tubuhan na dapat gawing

asr-005472
05:45:44.140 --> 05:45:45.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 5,000 pesos ang minimum

asr-005473
05:45:45.900 --> 05:45:48.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng cash bonus sa ilalim

asr-005474
05:45:48.800 --> 05:45:50.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng social amelioration

asr-005475
05:45:50.400 --> 05:45:52.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: program. Ata, susuportahan

asr-005476
05:45:52.460 --> 05:45:54.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po ba ng DOLE ang

asr-005477
05:45:54.260 --> 05:45:56.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtitiyak na meron po tayong

asr-005478
05:45:56.700 --> 05:45:58.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: minimum pagdating dito sa cash

asr-005479
05:45:58.440 --> 05:46:00.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bonus fund? Ang malaking issue kasi

asr-005480
05:46:00.320 --> 05:46:01.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito, Madam Speaker,

asr-005481
05:46:02.380 --> 05:46:04.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung 200 pesos,

asr-005482
05:46:04.320 --> 05:46:06.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 300 pesos, hindi pa po yan

asr-005483
05:46:06.000 --> 05:46:08.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasya para dun sa pamasahe

asr-005484
05:46:08.780 --> 05:46:10.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa lang ng mga kukuha

asr-005485
05:46:10.460 --> 05:46:12.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga workers. Kaya nga po,

asr-005486
05:46:13.240 --> 05:46:14.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nilapit din sa atin ng mga

asr-005487
05:46:14.540 --> 05:46:16.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: stakeholders na may mga panahon na

asr-005488
05:46:16.580 --> 05:46:17.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi na lang kinukuha

asr-005489
05:46:17.860 --> 05:46:20.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ganitong bonus fund

asr-005490
05:46:20.860 --> 05:46:22.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasi sa pamasahe pa lang

asr-005491
05:46:22.800 --> 05:46:24.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay lugi na sila. Kaya,

asr-005492
05:46:24.460 --> 05:46:26.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa tingin ko, dapat ang tindig dito

asr-005493
05:46:26.380 --> 05:46:28.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng DOLE, all out, na support,

asr-005494
05:46:28.440 --> 05:46:30.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat may minimum at

asr-005495
05:46:30.320 --> 05:46:32.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makuha kung ano yung dapat

asr-005496
05:46:32.460 --> 05:46:34.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pangangailangan na tulong

asr-005497
05:46:34.120 --> 05:46:36.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating sugar industry workers

asr-005498
05:46:36.260 --> 05:46:38.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kung wala po ang mga manggagawa

asr-005499
05:46:38.400 --> 05:46:40.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito na siyang

asr-005500
05:46:40.240 --> 05:46:42.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bumubuhay sa ating mga tubuhan

asr-005501
05:46:42.340 --> 05:46:44.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay hindi natin maasahan

asr-005502
05:46:44.800 --> 05:46:46.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pag-unlad din ng ganitong

asr-005503
05:46:46.380 --> 05:46:47.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: industriya.

asr-005504
05:46:52.880 --> 05:46:53.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Chair,

asr-005505
05:46:54.120 --> 05:46:54.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

asr-005506
05:46:54.780 --> 05:46:56.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang doon sa inyong

asr-005507
05:46:56.720 --> 05:46:58.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: statement, minimum,

asr-005508
05:46:58.440 --> 05:47:00.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi yan po ay nakapaloob sa ating

asr-005509
05:47:00.380 --> 05:47:02.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: batas. But then again, through your

asr-005510
05:47:02.340 --> 05:47:04.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: representation, once again, pag ito po ay

asr-005511
05:47:04.260 --> 05:47:06.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: naging na-amended,

asr-005512
05:47:06.920 --> 05:47:08.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito po ay, sabi ko nga po

asr-005513
05:47:08.760 --> 05:47:10.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as earlier statement kanina,

asr-005514
05:47:10.580 --> 05:47:12.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: once it's enacted in TULO,

asr-005515
05:47:12.400 --> 05:47:14.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: susunod naman ang aming departamento.

asr-005516
05:47:15.680 --> 05:47:16.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang panghuli,

asr-005517
05:47:16.660 --> 05:47:18.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, tungkol

asr-005518
05:47:18.560 --> 05:47:20.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa single entry approach.

asr-005519
05:47:20.800 --> 05:47:22.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nais kong malaman kung

asr-005520
05:47:22.580 --> 05:47:26.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kapag nakapag-settle ba

asr-005521
05:47:26.560 --> 05:47:27.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: through SENA,

asr-005522
05:47:28.440 --> 05:47:30.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakakaroon ba ng record ang employer

asr-005523
05:47:30.260 --> 05:47:32.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa DOLE? At sa mga

asr-005524
05:47:32.100 --> 05:47:34.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagkakataon na lawyer

asr-005525
05:47:34.260 --> 05:47:36.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang duly authorized representative

asr-005526
05:47:36.680 --> 05:47:37.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng employer,

asr-005527
05:47:38.400 --> 05:47:40.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakakaroon ba ng mabilis na settlement?

asr-005529
05:48:22.440 --> 05:48:24.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Doon sa inyong katanungan sa ating

asr-005530
05:48:24.280 --> 05:48:26.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: single entry approach.

asr-005531
05:48:26.960 --> 05:48:28.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I would like to read

asr-005532
05:48:28.420 --> 05:48:30.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to you some facts pertaining

asr-005533
05:48:30.160 --> 05:48:32.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ating settlement

asr-005534
05:48:32.100 --> 05:48:33.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: rate, which sa

asr-005535
05:48:33.760 --> 05:48:38.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Dole Regional Office ay 84.60%

asr-005536
05:48:38.040 --> 05:48:40.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at dun sa total sa NLRC

asr-005537
05:48:40.360 --> 05:48:42.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is 84.07%.

asr-005538
05:48:42.440 --> 05:48:43.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

asr-005539
05:48:44.700 --> 05:48:46.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang katanungan ko rin ho ay

asr-005540
05:48:46.300 --> 05:48:48.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga pagkakataon ba na lawyer

asr-005541
05:48:48.560 --> 05:48:50.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung duly authorized representative

asr-005542
05:48:50.620 --> 05:48:52.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at pinapayagan ba natin

asr-005543
05:48:52.600 --> 05:48:54.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: halimbawa na

asr-005544
05:48:54.220 --> 05:48:55.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: workers representative

asr-005545
05:48:55.640 --> 05:48:58.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang humaharap

asr-005546
05:48:58.740 --> 05:49:00.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: as duly authorized

asr-005547
05:49:00.640 --> 05:49:02.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: representative. So, both po

asr-005548
05:49:02.720 --> 05:49:04.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lawyer or

asr-005549
05:49:04.540 --> 05:49:06.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwede rin naman na representative mismo

asr-005550
05:49:06.700 --> 05:49:08.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga workers. Madam Speaker,

asr-005551
05:49:08.700 --> 05:49:10.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: this thing is surely, yes,

asr-005552
05:49:10.900 --> 05:49:11.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pwede po. Yes.

asr-005553
05:49:12.440 --> 05:49:15.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At na-raise ko po ito

asr-005554
05:49:15.440 --> 05:49:17.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil marami din pong naglapit sa ating

asr-005555
05:49:17.480 --> 05:49:19.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: representasyon na mahirap

asr-005556
05:49:19.560 --> 05:49:21.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din na lawyers yung

asr-005557
05:49:21.440 --> 05:49:23.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kaharap ng isang manggagawa sa isang

asr-005558
05:49:23.380 --> 05:49:25.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: settlement. Hindi po talaga ito

asr-005559
05:49:25.200 --> 05:49:27.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagiging pantay sa maraming pagkakataon

asr-005560
05:49:27.520 --> 05:49:29.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa ating karanasan

asr-005561
05:49:29.100 --> 05:49:31.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga nakakausap nating

asr-005562
05:49:31.060 --> 05:49:32.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga manggagawa. Mas binabarat

asr-005563
05:49:32.960 --> 05:49:35.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga manggagawa kapag

asr-005564
05:49:35.120 --> 05:49:37.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lawyer ang kaharap at napakarabi pa pong

asr-005565
05:49:37.600 --> 05:49:39.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: legal jargons at principles

asr-005566
05:49:39.400 --> 05:49:41.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ibinabato sa manggagawa

asr-005567
05:49:41.960 --> 05:49:43.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para lang mapanindigan

asr-005568
05:49:43.640 --> 05:49:45.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pagbabarat sa kanilang

asr-005569
05:49:45.700 --> 05:49:47.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sahod. Ngayon naman po

asr-005570
05:49:47.720 --> 05:49:49.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga

asr-005571
05:49:49.740 --> 05:49:51.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagkakataon din na

asr-005572
05:49:51.020 --> 05:49:53.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pinapalabas ang workers representative.

asr-005573
05:49:53.940 --> 05:49:55.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede ba na magkaroon kayo

asr-005574
05:49:55.200 --> 05:49:56.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mekanismo na hindi ito

asr-005575
05:49:56.960 --> 05:49:59.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mangyayari? Kapag may representative

asr-005576
05:49:59.480 --> 05:50:01.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po ang worker

asr-005577
05:50:01.260 --> 05:50:03.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nagsastand as their

asr-005578
05:50:03.300 --> 05:50:04.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: duly authorized representative,

asr-005579
05:50:05.280 --> 05:50:07.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat matiyak natin

asr-005580
05:50:07.300 --> 05:50:08.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi sila mapapalabas

asr-005581
05:50:08.720 --> 05:50:11.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kapag nagkakaroon po ng

asr-005582
05:50:11.020 --> 05:50:12.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: settlement sa ganitong mga kaso.

asr-005583
05:50:16.120 --> 05:50:18.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yes, it's part of the process

asr-005584
05:50:18.040 --> 05:50:20.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: but Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-005585
05:50:20.400 --> 05:50:21.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sasagutin ko rin po yung

asr-005586
05:50:21.880 --> 05:50:23.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: una mong binanggit.

asr-005587
05:50:25.200 --> 05:50:26.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I don't know but kung naalala po ninyo

asr-005588
05:50:26.940 --> 05:50:29.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: doon sa ating binanggit sa ating opening statement,

asr-005589
05:50:29.840 --> 05:50:31.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: isa yan sa ating mga inisiyatibo

asr-005590
05:50:31.480 --> 05:50:32.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng ating bagong sekretary.

asr-005591
05:50:33.080 --> 05:50:35.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Tama, intimidated yung ating mga

asr-005592
05:50:35.100 --> 05:50:36.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: manggagawa pag ito ay abogado ang

asr-005593
05:50:36.880 --> 05:50:39.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: karap po nila. And binanggit din po

asr-005594
05:50:39.200 --> 05:50:41.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: natin kanina that ang ating

asr-005595
05:50:41.080 --> 05:50:43.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: public attorney's office ay loaded

asr-005596
05:50:43.180 --> 05:50:44.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na with the existing cases.

asr-005597
05:50:45.560 --> 05:50:47.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ngayon, patukoy naman doon dito sa ating

asr-005598
05:50:47.420 --> 05:50:48.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: inisiyatib ng ating

asr-005599
05:50:48.480 --> 05:50:51.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: bagong sekretary, Sekretary Francis Tulitino,

asr-005600
05:50:51.620 --> 05:50:52.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kanina po binanggit po natin

asr-005601
05:50:52.820 --> 05:50:55.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung labor attorney's office.

asr-005602
05:50:55.200 --> 05:50:56.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ito po ay through ng kanyang

asr-005603
05:50:56.820 --> 05:50:58.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: department order na kung saan

asr-005604
05:50:58.860 --> 05:51:01.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: naghihinga rin po siya ng karagdagan. And I'm sure

asr-005605
05:51:01.240 --> 05:51:03.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that is very, very

asr-005606
05:51:03.160 --> 05:51:05.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: important. One, para ito po

asr-005607
05:51:05.260 --> 05:51:07.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay magkaroon ng free legal assistance

asr-005608
05:51:07.660 --> 05:51:08.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating mga

asr-005609
05:51:08.580 --> 05:51:11.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: manggagawa. So, yan po ay isa sa

asr-005610
05:51:11.060 --> 05:51:12.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: mga inisiyatibo ng ating

asr-005611
05:51:12.840 --> 05:51:15.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: departamento together with the

asr-005612
05:51:15.160 --> 05:51:17.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ating bagong sekretary,

asr-005613
05:51:17.200 --> 05:51:18.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-005614
05:51:21.520 --> 05:51:23.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May karanasan din po ang mga

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05:51:23.240 --> 05:51:25.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga manggagawa na sa pagpafal

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05:51:25.040 --> 05:51:27.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa lang sa DOLE. Mismong mga

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05:51:27.320 --> 05:51:30.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: employees na daw po yung

asr-005618
05:51:30.460 --> 05:51:32.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagdi-discourage tungkol sa pagpafal

asr-005619
05:51:32.980 --> 05:51:34.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil wala na daw pag-asa yung kaso.

asr-005620
05:51:34.920 --> 05:51:36.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, sa ganito pong mga cases

asr-005621
05:51:36.980 --> 05:51:39.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na naiparating sa atin, binubuo

asr-005622
05:51:39.020 --> 05:51:40.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din po namin yung report kasi po

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05:51:40.840 --> 05:51:42.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa paninindigan po ng aming

asr-005624
05:51:42.600 --> 05:51:44.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: representasyon, dapat hindi

asr-005625
05:51:44.840 --> 05:51:46.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maging dagdag na burokrasya

asr-005626
05:51:46.640 --> 05:51:48.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang sena at hindi

asr-005627
05:51:48.940 --> 05:51:50.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito dapat maging pamamaraan

asr-005628
05:51:50.740 --> 05:51:52.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng employer para lalong baratin

asr-005629
05:51:52.880 --> 05:51:54.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga manggagawa at baka

asr-005630
05:51:54.800 --> 05:51:56.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kayang tignan ng DOLE.

asr-005631
05:51:56.880 --> 05:51:58.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pwede po ba kayong mag-commit? I-review

asr-005632
05:51:58.600 --> 05:52:00.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin na kumaari

asr-005633
05:52:00.340 --> 05:52:02.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi na gawing mandatory

asr-005634
05:52:02.060 --> 05:52:04.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang single entry approach.

asr-005635
05:52:10.760 --> 05:52:12.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ma'am, yung sa ating

asr-005636
05:52:12.840 --> 05:52:13.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sinasabi niyo po na

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05:52:13.940 --> 05:52:16.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: first yung sa point niyo na

asr-005638
05:52:16.880 --> 05:52:18.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung mismo employer nagsasabi,

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05:52:19.440 --> 05:52:20.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: siguro po

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05:52:20.220 --> 05:52:22.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: with the statement of the Department of Labor Employment

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05:52:22.820 --> 05:52:24.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na pwede po tayo magtulong patungo doon.

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05:52:24.800 --> 05:52:26.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga lang yun, sa pangalawang

asr-005643
05:52:26.060 --> 05:52:28.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: inisiyatibo po niyo, doon sa single entry

asr-005644
05:52:28.200 --> 05:52:29.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: approach, ito po ay mandatory.

asr-005645
05:52:30.980 --> 05:52:32.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

asr-005646
05:52:32.200 --> 05:52:34.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat

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05:52:34.360 --> 05:52:35.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, dapat natin

asr-005648
05:52:35.780 --> 05:52:38.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ma-review, hindi na gawing mandatory

asr-005649
05:52:38.180 --> 05:52:40.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa representasyon ng

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05:52:40.160 --> 05:52:42.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Gabriela Women's Party, sinusuportahan namin

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05:52:42.040 --> 05:52:44.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas mataas na pondo para sa

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05:52:44.080 --> 05:52:46.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pag-hire ng labor inspectors

asr-005653
05:52:46.140 --> 05:52:48.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lang po sa hiring, sa training,

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05:52:48.240 --> 05:52:50.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa capacity building at pagtitiyak ng

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05:52:50.000 --> 05:52:52.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang independence. Maraming salamat

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05:52:52.240 --> 05:52:53.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

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05:52:53.900 --> 05:52:54.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Distinguished sponsor.

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05:52:54.800 --> 05:52:56.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat. Distinguished colleague.

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05:52:56.440 --> 05:52:57.100
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

asr-005660
05:53:00.020 --> 05:53:02.140
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Madam Speaker, I move that

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05:53:02.140 --> 05:53:04.300
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: we recognize the Honorable Representative

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05:53:04.300 --> 05:53:06.300
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Perci Cendaña

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05:53:06.300 --> 05:53:08.220
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: of Akbayan Party-list

asr-005664
05:53:08.220 --> 05:53:10.300
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: to interpolate on the proposed

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05:53:10.300 --> 05:53:16.240
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Madam Speaker, I withdraw my manifestation.

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05:53:17.500 --> 05:53:18.420
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: I move that

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05:53:18.420 --> 05:53:20.440
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: we recognize Representative

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05:53:20.440 --> 05:53:22.300
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Renee Louise Co of

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05:53:22.300 --> 05:53:24.500
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: Kabataan Party-list to interpellate

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05:53:24.500 --> 05:53:26.400
Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura: on the proposed budget of the DOLE.

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05:53:27.100 --> 05:53:28.900
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Renee Louise Co

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05:53:28.900 --> 05:53:30.980
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized

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05:53:30.980 --> 05:53:31.800
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: to interpellate.

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05:53:32.400 --> 05:53:35.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you Madam Speaker and good morning

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05:53:35.080 --> 05:53:37.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our distinguished sponsor

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05:53:37.220 --> 05:53:38.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and to the DOLE.

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05:53:40.320 --> 05:53:41.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My first

asr-005678
05:53:41.360 --> 05:53:43.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: line of questioning, if the gentleman

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05:53:43.480 --> 05:53:45.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would be amenable to answer

asr-005680
05:53:45.420 --> 05:53:47.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: certain questions

asr-005681
05:53:47.100 --> 05:53:49.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regarding the budget of

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05:53:49.140 --> 05:53:50.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Department of Labor and Employment.

asr-005683
05:53:51.340 --> 05:53:52.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

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05:53:53.080 --> 05:53:53.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: gladly, Madam.

asr-005685
05:53:53.780 --> 05:53:54.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you.

asr-005686
05:53:54.500 --> 05:53:55.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-005687
05:53:56.560 --> 05:53:58.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The first line of questioning would be in relation

asr-005688
05:53:58.680 --> 05:54:00.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to actually the

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05:54:00.460 --> 05:54:02.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report submitted

asr-005690
05:54:02.900 --> 05:54:04.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by DOLE which

asr-005691
05:54:04.060 --> 05:54:06.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation appreciates

asr-005692
05:54:06.160 --> 05:54:08.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to our questioning

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05:54:08.200 --> 05:54:09.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the Department

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05:54:09.640 --> 05:54:12.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the budget briefing held

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05:54:12.440 --> 05:54:13.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a few weeks ago.

asr-005696
05:54:14.540 --> 05:54:16.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And dito po, tinanong natin

asr-005697
05:54:16.700 --> 05:54:18.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung ano po yung

asr-005698
05:54:18.200 --> 05:54:20.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: compliance of establishments

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05:54:20.700 --> 05:54:22.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: within ecozones

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05:54:22.220 --> 05:54:23.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga

asr-005701
05:54:24.500 --> 05:54:26.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: occupational

asr-005702
05:54:26.340 --> 05:54:28.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: safety and

asr-005703
05:54:28.540 --> 05:54:30.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: health regulations

asr-005704
05:54:30.160 --> 05:54:33.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may noted

asr-005705
05:54:33.140 --> 05:54:34.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na improvement

asr-005706
05:54:34.760 --> 05:54:37.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of compliance rates

asr-005707
05:54:37.080 --> 05:54:39.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero ninonote po natin

asr-005708
05:54:39.240 --> 05:54:41.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito na marami pa rin

asr-005709
05:54:41.320 --> 05:54:43.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pong mga regyon ay may below

asr-005710
05:54:43.260 --> 05:54:45.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 100% compliance.

asr-005711
05:54:45.600 --> 05:54:47.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meaning po sa inspections

asr-005712
05:54:47.360 --> 05:54:48.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ginagawa ng DOLE

asr-005713
05:54:48.680 --> 05:54:50.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung meron pong

asr-005714
05:54:50.740 --> 05:54:52.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: labor standard violations

asr-005715
05:54:52.840 --> 05:54:54.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or

asr-005716
05:54:54.500 --> 05:54:56.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: safety and health hazard violations

asr-005717
05:54:56.840 --> 05:54:59.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may mga regyon

asr-005718
05:54:59.540 --> 05:55:02.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na hindi po 100% yung compliance.

asr-005719
05:55:03.200 --> 05:55:03.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May I

asr-005720
05:55:03.660 --> 05:55:06.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: clarify Madam Speaker, good sponsor

asr-005721
05:55:06.540 --> 05:55:08.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may minimum threshold bang

asr-005722
05:55:08.280 --> 05:55:10.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pinaghahawakan ang DOLE regarding

asr-005723
05:55:10.460 --> 05:55:12.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito? Ano po ang

asr-005724
05:55:12.360 --> 05:55:14.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pinapataw na parusa

asr-005725
05:55:14.000 --> 05:55:16.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga patuloy na non-compliant

asr-005726
05:55:16.760 --> 05:55:17.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung meron man?

asr-005727
05:55:17.760 --> 05:55:19.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you.

asr-005728
05:55:37.300 --> 05:55:38.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-005729
05:55:38.260 --> 05:55:41.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, for the first question would be ito kung may threshold.

asr-005730
05:55:41.080 --> 05:55:44.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Wala po, kailangan po, dapat sana

asr-005731
05:55:44.440 --> 05:55:46.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining sa OSHA ay 100%.

asr-005732
05:55:46.440 --> 05:55:52.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pangalawa, dun sa ating penalties here thereafter

asr-005733
05:55:52.220 --> 05:55:54.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun sa may mga existing rules and regulations naman po tayo,

asr-005734
05:55:54.340 --> 05:56:01.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun po sa mga penalties, they could go up to as much as penalties na 100,000 pesos, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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05:56:01.220 --> 05:56:09.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May records po ba tayo na sunod-sunod na taon ay hindi compliant itong mga establishments within ecozones?

asr-005736
05:56:09.740 --> 05:56:11.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May number po ba tayo?

asr-005737
05:56:11.880 --> 05:56:15.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May mga pangalan po ba tayo ng mga establishments na ganito?

asr-005738
05:56:15.800 --> 05:56:23.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung doon sa tanong po na kung meron kaming

asr-005740
05:56:24.340 --> 05:56:26.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: datos patungo na kung may

asr-005741
05:56:26.000 --> 05:56:28.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: violations na sunod-sunod na taon.

asr-005742
05:56:28.640 --> 05:56:30.100
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Unfortunately, ma'am, we will gather

asr-005743
05:56:30.100 --> 05:56:31.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that data, but if you gladly

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05:56:31.940 --> 05:56:34.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: allow us, as soon as possible, we will

asr-005745
05:56:34.140 --> 05:56:35.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: submit to the

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05:56:35.060 --> 05:56:38.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: our distinguished colleague para po ito

asr-005747
05:56:38.160 --> 05:56:40.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay matugunan at makita po

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05:56:40.080 --> 05:56:40.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ninyo ng personal.

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05:56:41.640 --> 05:56:43.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, intay na lang po natin

asr-005750
05:56:43.960 --> 05:56:45.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung report na yun. Sana po ay maisumite

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05:56:45.920 --> 05:56:48.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOLE sa

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05:56:48.020 --> 05:56:50.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representasyon na ito. Sana po bago

asr-005753
05:56:50.040 --> 05:56:52.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: matapos ang linggo. Dalala ko

asr-005754
05:56:52.020 --> 05:56:53.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: din po, nung nakaraang taon,

asr-005755
05:56:54.340 --> 05:56:56.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nag-furnish din ng copy

asr-005756
05:56:56.540 --> 05:56:58.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung DOLE ng

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05:56:58.120 --> 05:56:59.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: similar

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05:56:59.400 --> 05:57:02.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: report ng sino pong

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05:57:02.060 --> 05:57:04.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakaka-record

asr-005760
05:57:04.040 --> 05:57:05.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga OSHS

asr-005761
05:57:05.660 --> 05:57:08.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violations. So, nakaka-dismaya

asr-005762
05:57:08.680 --> 05:57:10.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may meron pa rin.

asr-005763
05:57:10.880 --> 05:57:12.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Alam naman natin hindi

asr-005764
05:57:12.240 --> 05:57:13.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: perfecto, pero nonetheless,

asr-005765
05:57:14.780 --> 05:57:16.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay kung meron pong

asr-005766
05:57:16.160 --> 05:57:18.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga sunod-sunod

asr-005767
05:57:18.460 --> 05:57:20.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na violators, dapat po

asr-005768
05:57:20.360 --> 05:57:21.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay ma-actionan po yun

asr-005769
05:57:21.940 --> 05:57:24.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOLE. Sige, Madam Speaker,

asr-005770
05:57:24.220 --> 05:57:26.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: good sponsor, babalikan ko lang

asr-005771
05:57:26.660 --> 05:57:28.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po yung mga iilang tanong ko noong

asr-005772
05:57:28.440 --> 05:57:30.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: budget briefing

asr-005773
05:57:30.400 --> 05:57:32.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na kung saan sinabi po

asr-005774
05:57:32.520 --> 05:57:34.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOLE na wala po

asr-005775
05:57:34.520 --> 05:57:36.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: silang purview sa

asr-005776
05:57:36.220 --> 05:57:38.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pagtukoy o kaya

asr-005777
05:57:38.500 --> 05:57:40.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pagdikta ng mga incentives

asr-005778
05:57:40.760 --> 05:57:42.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na natatanggap ng locators

asr-005779
05:57:42.640 --> 05:57:43.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or establishments

asr-005780
05:57:43.700 --> 05:57:46.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na nasa loob ng mga

asr-005781
05:57:46.200 --> 05:57:48.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: economic zones. Ang ayon

asr-005782
05:57:48.460 --> 05:57:50.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po dito sa report na isinumite

asr-005783
05:57:50.360 --> 05:57:52.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng DOLE, ito po ay

asr-005784
05:57:52.520 --> 05:57:53.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nasa jurisdiction,

asr-005785
05:57:54.220 --> 05:57:56.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the respective investment promotion

asr-005786
05:57:56.460 --> 05:57:58.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: agencies, gaya ng PEZA,

asr-005787
05:57:59.100 --> 05:58:00.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in coordination with

asr-005788
05:58:00.500 --> 05:58:02.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Fiscal Incentives Review Board

asr-005789
05:58:02.640 --> 05:58:04.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or ng Bureau of Internal Revenue

asr-005790
05:58:04.740 --> 05:58:06.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: when applicable.

asr-005791
05:58:06.960 --> 05:58:08.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Siguro, gusto ko lang pong

asr-005792
05:58:08.720 --> 05:58:10.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: i-clarify, ano po ba yung

asr-005793
05:58:10.560 --> 05:58:12.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: basis ng ganitong set-up

asr-005794
05:58:12.900 --> 05:58:13.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung meron man?

asr-005795
05:58:24.220 --> 05:58:28.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-005796
05:58:28.440 --> 05:58:29.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: before I answer your question,

asr-005797
05:58:30.660 --> 05:58:32.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun po sa unang hinihingi niyo mga datos,

asr-005798
05:58:32.420 --> 05:58:33.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we commit,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Huwebes na po pala ngayon, I was supposed to say Thursday,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we will give it within the week, so that's

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Friday. To the

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: answer, kasi nga po, it's a

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: special law po yun eh, so

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang DOLE, ang role lang po ng DOLE is limited to that.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So yung pag, yung kanyang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: nabanggit niyo po kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung mga ahensyang yun lamang

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: may tamang jurisdiction,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito mo po dito, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ninonote po kasi natin, Madam

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Speaker, good sponsor, na

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Omnibus Investments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Code of 1987

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nakalaan dito

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that the Board of Investments can

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for violations of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the laws

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the protection of labor

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay maaaring magkansela

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga incentives

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ini-enjoy ng mga enterprises.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At the same time,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na mandato po ng

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department of Labor and Employment, according

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to not only its website,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero in laws

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na it

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: promotes gainful employment opportunities

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and human resource development,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: protect and promote workers' rights

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and welfare, and promote and

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: maintain industrial peace.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, wala po bang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: role yung DOLE sa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pag-ensure

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na that the Board of Investments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: gets the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: appropriate information

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to say na kung may

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: violation of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the laws.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the protection of labor, ay maaari nilang i-cancel yung mga incentives ng specific locators or ng establishments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dahil ito po yung nakalagay sa Omnibus Investments Code.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano pong role ng DOLE sa pag-implementa ng Board of Investments ng ganitong klaseng kapangyarihan nila?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Tama po yung binanggit po ninyo.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At I would like to quote sa unang binanggit po ninyo.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That ang role po ng Departamento ay ipakita sa ating mga ibang kasama na ahensya na ito po ang findings ng ating Departamento.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So bari, yung sinasabi po nyo, kung anong role pertaining doon sa kung pwedeng i-cancela,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay hindi na po namin sakop ang kapangyarihan ito sapagkat kami po, based on the data that we have,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and I think we have furnished our distinguished colleague na kumpleto naman po yung aming inspections pertaining to that

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: but to the matter of...

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So na kami po ay magkakancela, we don't have that jurisdiction, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And I'd like to add, na sisiguraduhin ko po sa inyo, na tayo po ay ginagampanan natin yung ating mga inspections sa lahat ng ating mga ecozones during that time.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So to clarify, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano po yung role ng DOLE vis-a-vis yung Board of Investments

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or yung Fiscal Incentives Review Board?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kung may findings sila na may violation sa loss on protecting labor na nangyari?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, sabi ko nga po, pag-check ng DOLE, ang role ng DOLE, if they're in compliance,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung may violations, obligadong ilalagay din po natin yan.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And we have the records, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, if needed and necessary.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Does the DOLE submit these findings of violations to the Board of Investments?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How often do they submit it? How often do they meet, etc.?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano po nila nakakommunicate yung gano'ng klaseng violations?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, we can submit to a report.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But gusto ko lang po dagdagan, but in terms of pag-OSH law na po, ito po ay pwedeng patawan na agad ng Departamento.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa violation ng OSH, for example.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa OSH po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Gusto natin ma-insure na may...

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ...accountability sa ibang ahensya.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na po, nasa mandato naman po ng ahensya na yun na may accountability kung may violation sa protection,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: loss of protection of labor, meron po ba itong report na isinusumite, for example,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga dapat pong may action on incentives, for example,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para hindi lang po titigil tayo sa accountability on OSH law.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And other forms of accountability when applicable.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, yes, sabi ko nga po, ginagawa ng ating Departamento yung role po natin na we furnish everybody a copy.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And for the appreciation of our distinguished colleague, pwede naman po tayong mag-submit sa inyong tanggapan ng lahat ng aming mga ginawang patungkol po dito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kung maisusumite po dito sa representasyon na ito,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kopya ng report, kung paano po tinitiyak ng DOLE na yung modes of accountability niya,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it does not stop at what it can do as the extent of powers it has.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero pagbibigay ng impormasyon and coordination with other agencies na maaaring magbigay yung DOLE ng impormasyon sa kanila,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at madetalye po sana.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa isang report.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kasi the DOLE is in the best opportunity, in the best position na magbigay ng impormasyon na ito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Halos wala naman na pong ibang makakapagbigay nito.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At kung kaya pong aktuhan ng Board of Investments ayon po sa impormasyon ng DOLE,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dapat lang po, we'd like not to see a scenario where there are locators, establishments that enjoy incentives

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but are repeated violators of laws protecting labor.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, maaasahan po ba natin yung report na ito?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes. That's a definite yes.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And if our Distinguished Colleague, can I make a plea?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kanina po, binanggit ko po na isasubmit po namin ng biyernes.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pagtingin ko po doon sa ating monitor ay Huwebes na po pala ngayon.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: If it would be allowable, pagpinayagan po tayo ng ating Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi biyernes na po ay technically bukas na po, kung papayagan niyo po kami,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: isasubmit po namin ang lahat ng dokumentong hiningi po ninyo by Monday of next week

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: if it's papayagan po ng ating Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes po, okay naman po yung Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat po, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My last line of questioning, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is in relation po sa tinanong din po natin sa TESDA,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Project UNLAD, kung saan ito ay partnership ng DICT sa pag-ensure na yung AI upskilling

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay hindi lang po ito nagagawa ng pro forma,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero substantively nakakapagpataas ng kalidad ng ating mga BPO workers

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and other such workers na nangailangan ng ganitong skillset.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nakita po natin sa report that around 18,500 na manggagawa

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang nakakatanggap ng upskilling under Project UNLAD.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero ang tanong po natin sa bantanang layoffs sa gitna ng paggamit ng AI sa mga BPO companies,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sapat ba na around that number ang nakakatanggap ng upskilling under Project UNLAD

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: upang masiguro ang kanilang tuloy-tuloy na trabaho?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: before I directly answer your question, let me read first the status of the AI upskilling.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, TESDA is calling up its AI skills programs in line with the National AI Upskilling Roadmap

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06:06:41.600 --> 06:06:45.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: through different delivery modalities such as institution-based delivery,

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06:06:46.180 --> 06:06:48.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: enterprise-based training and online courses.

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06:06:49.280 --> 06:06:56.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: TESDA has already allocated 53,442 scholarship slots for AI and digital-related skills

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as of August 20, 2026.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: The context would be that TESDA recognizes the need to adopt our workforce with AI.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kailangan, kailangan na po yan.

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06:07:08.580 --> 06:07:12.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Estimates vary but different analysis place the number of jobs that will be affected by AI

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: around 25 to 35 percent of jobs.

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06:07:16.660 --> 06:07:18.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's roughly around 12 million.

asr-005921
06:07:18.860 --> 06:07:23.500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And the National AI Upskilling Roadmap segmentizes the labor force into three clusters

asr-005922
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: that represent three A's in AI.

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06:07:26.260 --> 06:07:28.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One is AI awareness, AI adoption,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and AI advancement.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: This entails different courses from foundational competencies and AI literacy

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06:07:36.080 --> 06:07:40.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to more specialized and advanced courses that will equip Filipinos with skills

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: not only to consume but also to build AI systems.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ano po yung sagot natin dun sa tanong nasapat po ba ang may 18,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or rather ang namention may some 50,000?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 53,000.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 53,442.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam, doon sa pagbanggit ko nga po kanina,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: siguro I forgot to mention TESDA.

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06:08:06.500 --> 06:08:09.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: That's the reason na ang unchallenged po sa atin ngayon,

asr-005937
06:08:09.360 --> 06:08:11.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang ating hinihingi ng ating ekonomiya.

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06:08:12.180 --> 06:08:13.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Isang role ng DOLE and TESDA,

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06:08:13.920 --> 06:08:15.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: TESDA to be specific,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na i-reskill, i-upskill,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and kung sa tanong mo kung sapat na yung binanggit mong 18,000,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: or in fact, based sa 53,442,

asr-005943
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa official stance po ng TESDA,

asr-005944
06:08:30.780 --> 06:08:33.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito po ay nabawasan nga yung pondo for 2027,

asr-005945
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: compared to the GAA of 2026.

asr-005946
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So ang tamang sagot po dyan ay kulang pa po yung ating mga programa,

asr-005947
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and sa ating opening statement po kanina,

asr-005948
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay binanggit po natin na kung maaari itong madagdagan,

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay welcome na welcome po yan sa aming departamento.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: As a last question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or for now,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hinihingi po ng kopya sana ang representasyon na ito ng Roadmap,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na I assume na medyo fresh or hot off the press pa siya,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero other than that,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ano po ba yung mga indicators natin na successful yung upskilling?

asr-005956
06:09:13.500 --> 06:09:16.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung ilan pong siguro inaasahan natin,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung promotion sa trabaho,

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06:09:18.160 --> 06:09:20.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: increased salary,

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: siguro mas mabilis na turnout, etc.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano po ba ang mga indicators na ito?

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Magandang tanong, to justify na kami po ay ang TESDA po ay humihingi po ng karagdagang budget for that.

asr-005962
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-005963
06:09:36.220 --> 06:09:39.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'd like to state for the record,

asr-005964
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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na lahat po nang dumaan sa tech-voc path,

asr-005965
06:09:43.220 --> 06:09:47.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay based on the results na ginagawa po natin,

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06:09:47.220 --> 06:09:50.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay meron pong 83.4% employability.

asr-005967
06:09:50.220 --> 06:09:55.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Ibig sabihin, pag ikaw po ay dumaan sa skills training sa TESDA,

asr-005968
06:09:55.220 --> 06:09:57.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay mataas, o napakataas,

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06:09:57.220 --> 06:09:59.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng chance for employability.

asr-005970
06:09:59.220 --> 06:10:03.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And also, it goes to show sa ating certification program,

asr-005971
06:10:03.220 --> 06:10:10.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na if it is applicable to or acceptable to the distinguished colleague,

asr-005972
06:10:10.220 --> 06:10:12.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay marami po na tayo nagawa dyan,

asr-005973
06:10:12.220 --> 06:10:14.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and we can definitely furnish you

asr-005974
06:10:14.220 --> 06:10:17.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of all that necessary reports pertaining to certification,

asr-005975
06:10:17.220 --> 06:10:20.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and what I've said, the 83.4% employability

asr-005976
06:10:20.220 --> 06:10:24.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ng mga dumadaan sa tech-voc path po natin sa ating bansang Pilipinas.

asr-005977
06:10:24.220 --> 06:10:26.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hintayin po natin yung ulat na yun.

asr-005978
06:10:26.220 --> 06:10:33.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Siguro sana po sa lunes ay maisabay siya doon sa submissions as well ng DOLE.

asr-005979
06:10:33.220 --> 06:10:37.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang huli na lang po nating manifestation ay up until now,

asr-005980
06:10:37.220 --> 06:10:43.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mataas ang anxiety ng mga tao tungkol sa layoffs na dulot ng AI.

asr-005981
06:10:43.220 --> 06:10:47.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At kung we ride the trend of upskilling,

asr-005982
06:10:47.220 --> 06:10:55.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang naishare po so far ay hindi rin po nakikita sa indicators na may job security dito.

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06:10:55.220 --> 06:10:58.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, nonetheless, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

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06:10:58.220 --> 06:11:05.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we'd like to register na ito yung anxiety at ito yung hirap na pinakaharap ng ating mga BPO workers.

asr-005985
06:11:05.220 --> 06:11:11.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At beyond upskilling, no, gusto natin tuloy-tuloy na may sagot doon sa tanong na paano ba i-ensure

asr-005986
06:11:11.220 --> 06:11:16.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may disenteng trabaho, na may nakabubuhay na sahod ang mga manggagawang Pilipino.

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06:11:16.220 --> 06:11:20.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po. Thank you, good sponsor.

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06:11:20.220 --> 06:11:23.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Thank you, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And yes, we will submit on Monday together with the DOLE and TESDA reports, Distinguished Colleague. Maraming salamat po.

asr-005990
06:11:30.220 --> 06:11:32.220
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader?

asr-005991
06:11:32.220 --> 06:11:37.220
Floor Leader: Madam Speaker, I'd like to acknowledge our last interpellator of the day,

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06:11:37.220 --> 06:11:41.220
Floor Leader: the Honorable Perci Cendaña from the Akbayan Party-list.

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06:11:41.220 --> 06:11:46.220
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Perci Cendaña of Akbayan Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

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06:11:46.220 --> 06:11:52.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Magandang umaga po. Ginoong sponsor at sa buong DOLE family.

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06:11:52.220 --> 06:11:57.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At siyempre kasama dyan, special mention, ang paborito nating TESDA.

asr-005996
06:11:57.220 --> 06:12:04.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At ngayon po, pinag-uusapan natin ang budget ng Department of Labor and Employment.

asr-005997
06:12:04.220 --> 06:12:08.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At pangunahin dito yung usapin ng workers' rights and welfare.

asr-005998
06:12:08.220 --> 06:12:21.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: But the irony is not lost on me. Marami po mga manggagawa tayo dito sa loob ng Kongreso, sa ating mga opisina, at mismo po sa DOLE, ang Puyat na ngayong araw na ito.

asr-005999
06:12:21.220 --> 06:12:27.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And while naniniwala tayo na dapat walang tulugan para sa transparency and accountability,

asr-006000
06:12:27.220 --> 06:12:32.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa dulo po dapat huwag din nating pabayaan ang kapakanan ng ating mga manggagawa.

asr-006001
06:12:32.220 --> 06:12:37.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Let me begin with a humble appeal to the leadership of the House of Representatives.

asr-006002
06:12:37.220 --> 06:12:43.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Natiyakin po natin yung kapakanan, kalusugan ng ating mga manggagawa, ang kanilang well-being.

asr-006003
06:12:43.220 --> 06:12:50.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Hindi po talaga makatarungan ang ganitong uri ng diskurso sa ganitong alangan ng oras na ng madaling araw.

asr-006004
06:12:51.220 --> 06:12:56.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And the irony of it all, we're talking about workers' rights and welfare now.

asr-006005
06:12:56.220 --> 06:13:11.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Balik lang po ako, Madam Speaker, ginaong sponsor doon sa kaninang exchange between the good sponsor and Representative Elly tungkol po sa nangyaring September 10 NWPC meeting.

asr-006006
06:13:11.220 --> 06:13:20.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Allegedly, may nangyaring NWPC meeting noong September 10. At nabanggit din po kanina na isang dahilan kaya po lumipat ng kwarto ay dahil daw po mayroong disruption.

asr-006007
06:13:21.220 --> 06:13:29.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Can the good sponsor elaborate further on this claim about disruptions or disruptors?

asr-006008
06:13:29.220 --> 06:13:42.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, well, the process sa wage setting, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, there's a reason na bakit po may proseso.

asr-006009
06:13:42.220 --> 06:13:50.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: One, nabanggit po natin leading to the September 10, was that there was already a public hearing.

asr-006010
06:13:51.220 --> 06:13:55.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Or consultation, but technically the right word is public hearing. September 2 po yan.

asr-006011
06:13:55.220 --> 06:14:00.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Na marami po yung, we have pictures and videos na lahat naman po doon ay imbitado.

asr-006012
06:14:00.220 --> 06:14:14.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pertaining doon po sa sinasabing September 10, tandaan po ninyo, yung ito na po ay nagpapatukoy doon sa Wage Order No. 28 na dapat ay affirmation.

asr-006013
06:14:14.220 --> 06:14:20.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And for the record, sabi ko nga po kanina, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the reason of being wage na ito po ay ating nabanggit.

asr-006014
06:14:21.220 --> 06:14:30.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Sapagkat, yung mga miyembro dapat ng ating na kung saan na, nasa affirmation doon sa ating wage order, ay dapat nandun na po.

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06:14:30.220 --> 06:14:37.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nandun din yun sa binanggit ko na yung labor sector. Unfortunately, yung isa pong miyembro ay wala po.

asr-006016
06:14:37.220 --> 06:14:43.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And we have the minutes to prove so, na yun lamang po dapat talaga yung mga naroon.

asr-006017
06:14:43.220 --> 06:14:47.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So in short, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-006018
06:14:47.220 --> 06:14:55.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung board po mismo yun nandun. And siguro, you just don't take my word for it.

asr-006019
06:14:55.220 --> 06:14:59.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kanina nga po, I've asked permission from the good secretariat, tandaan po natin yung

asr-006020
06:15:00.000 --> 06:15:02.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung dapat yung pag nagdi-desisyon na

asr-006021
06:15:02.560 --> 06:15:05.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o pag mag-a-affirm na ang NWPC,

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06:15:06.160 --> 06:15:10.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it is not mandated na ibigay yung minutes of the said meeting.

asr-006023
06:15:11.380 --> 06:15:13.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Pero kami po, sabi ko nga po, on the record,

asr-006024
06:15:14.580 --> 06:15:15.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi ganun po kami kakumpiyansa,

asr-006025
06:15:16.060 --> 06:15:18.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is because we are willing to do so.

asr-006026
06:15:18.700 --> 06:15:21.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Yan po ay may para at least to appease everybody.

asr-006027
06:15:21.500 --> 06:15:23.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: At the same time, para ipakita

asr-006028
06:15:23.440 --> 06:15:26.080
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kami ang Department of Labor and Employment

asr-006029
06:15:26.080 --> 06:15:28.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining to that September 10 meeting

asr-006030
06:15:28.240 --> 06:15:30.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa affirmation ng Wage Order 28

asr-006031
06:15:30.360 --> 06:15:32.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay walang tinatago at the same time

asr-006032
06:15:32.700 --> 06:15:34.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para sinigurado rin po natin

asr-006033
06:15:34.280 --> 06:15:35.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na yung Wage Order No. 28

asr-006034
06:15:35.880 --> 06:15:37.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay ma-affirm natin,

asr-006035
06:15:38.260 --> 06:15:40.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ma-publish September 11

asr-006036
06:15:40.980 --> 06:15:43.020
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and hopefully ma-implement

asr-006037
06:15:43.020 --> 06:15:46.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: o maging ganap na wage order

asr-006038
06:15:46.000 --> 06:15:49.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to be implemented on September 26 of this year.

asr-006039
06:15:49.340 --> 06:15:50.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-006040
06:15:51.580 --> 06:15:53.900
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-006041
06:15:54.840 --> 06:15:57.480
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I beg your indulgence, kailangan ko pong ulitin yung tanong.

asr-006042
06:15:57.480 --> 06:15:59.480
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ano po o sino yung disruptors

asr-006043
06:16:00.000 --> 06:16:02.300
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o ano po yung disruption na nabanggit kanina?

asr-006044
06:16:03.000 --> 06:16:05.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: The reason as to why the meeting was transferred

asr-006045
06:16:05.420 --> 06:16:07.800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: from the original venue to another venue?

asr-006046
06:16:11.700 --> 06:16:12.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Well,

asr-006047
06:16:15.120 --> 06:16:17.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: let it, ilalagay ko po sa konteksto.

asr-006048
06:16:18.800 --> 06:16:21.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Binanggit ko po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-006049
06:16:21.500 --> 06:16:26.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na yung ating affirmation ay yung wage setting na nga po.

asr-006050
06:16:26.700 --> 06:16:27.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nandun na po.

asr-006051
06:16:27.480 --> 06:16:31.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Nandun na po dapat yung ating mga dapat na nandoon.

asr-006052
06:16:32.320 --> 06:16:34.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Kaya nga lang po, may mga pumasok na

asr-006053
06:16:34.220 --> 06:16:36.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: are not supposed to be there

asr-006054
06:16:36.880 --> 06:16:40.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi yun na nga po yung affirmation ng Wage No. 28.

asr-006055
06:16:40.440 --> 06:16:41.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Tapos na po yung public hearing eh.

asr-006056
06:16:42.020 --> 06:16:44.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: There's a difference, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-006057
06:16:44.720 --> 06:16:47.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Now, I have it on

asr-006058
06:16:47.440 --> 06:16:53.400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: there's labor leaders na mga pumasok

asr-006059
06:16:53.400 --> 06:16:55.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na hindi naman po dapat because

asr-006060
06:16:55.460 --> 06:16:56.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sabi ko nga,

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06:16:56.440 --> 06:16:57.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito,

asr-006062
06:16:57.480 --> 06:16:59.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: it was supposed to be the decision or affirmation

asr-006063
06:16:59.360 --> 06:17:01.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: of the NWPC already.

asr-006064
06:17:02.080 --> 06:17:03.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-006065
06:17:04.660 --> 06:17:06.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Go ahead, sorry.

asr-006066
06:17:06.680 --> 06:17:08.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: I'm so sorry, Mr. Distinguished Colleague.

asr-006067
06:17:09.280 --> 06:17:11.140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Just to reiterate, Madam Speaker,

asr-006068
06:17:11.380 --> 06:17:11.980
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: good sponsor,

asr-006069
06:17:12.280 --> 06:17:13.700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: hindi po disruptors

asr-006070
06:17:13.700 --> 06:17:14.740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o hindi disruption

asr-006071
06:17:14.740 --> 06:17:16.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang ating pong pag-assert

asr-006072
06:17:16.880 --> 06:17:18.200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na mga leader manggagawa

asr-006073
06:17:18.200 --> 06:17:19.820
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: o organisadong mga union

asr-006074
06:17:19.820 --> 06:17:21.260
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng karapatan po nila

asr-006075
06:17:21.260 --> 06:17:22.720
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na malaman ang katotohanan

asr-006076
06:17:22.720 --> 06:17:23.560
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at magpahayag po

asr-006077
06:17:23.560 --> 06:17:24.760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng kanilang posisyon

asr-006078
06:17:24.760 --> 06:17:26.780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa napakalagang issue ng sahod.

asr-006079
06:17:26.780 --> 06:17:28.360
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Lalo na po sa sahod

asr-006080
06:17:28.360 --> 06:17:30.280
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na kailangan-kailangan dagdagan sa ngayon.

asr-006081
06:17:30.500 --> 06:17:32.020
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: But let me move on to another topic.

asr-006082
06:17:32.160 --> 06:17:33.640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Just like to underscore

asr-006083
06:17:33.640 --> 06:17:35.900
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that the labor movement

asr-006084
06:17:35.900 --> 06:17:36.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: or labor leaders

asr-006085
06:17:36.880 --> 06:17:38.460
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: are not disruptors.

asr-006086
06:17:39.480 --> 06:17:41.340
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Pag-usapan po natin yung enforcement

asr-006087
06:17:41.340 --> 06:17:43.460
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng Department Order 156.

asr-006088
06:17:44.140 --> 06:17:45.820
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ito po ay concern na gusto i-raise

asr-006089
06:17:45.820 --> 06:17:46.800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng mga kasama natin

asr-006090
06:17:46.800 --> 06:17:48.940
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mula sa commercial fishing industry.

asr-006091
06:17:49.540 --> 06:17:50.360
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sabi po ng DOLE,

asr-006092
06:17:50.840 --> 06:17:52.460
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 6,048 workers

asr-006093
06:17:52.460 --> 06:17:53.900
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang covered ng enforcement

asr-006094
06:17:53.900 --> 06:17:55.280
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng DO 156

asr-006095
06:17:55.280 --> 06:17:56.760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: noong June 2026.

asr-006096
06:17:56.780 --> 06:17:59.120
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Gaano na po karaming

asr-006097
06:17:59.120 --> 06:17:59.780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: individual fishers

asr-006098
06:18:00.320 --> 06:18:01.640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang na-verify natin

asr-006099
06:18:01.640 --> 06:18:03.760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na nakakakuha na sa ngayon

asr-006100
06:18:03.760 --> 06:18:05.520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng mandated minimum wage?

asr-006101
06:18:16.500 --> 06:18:17.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006102
06:18:18.580 --> 06:18:19.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-006103
06:18:20.300 --> 06:18:21.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: based dito po sa aming datos

asr-006104
06:18:21.780 --> 06:18:24.040
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa June 2026,

asr-006105
06:18:24.040 --> 06:18:25.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: workers covered,

asr-006106
06:18:26.780 --> 06:18:28.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 6,048.

asr-006107
06:18:28.800 --> 06:18:30.800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 6,048 po.

asr-006108
06:18:31.280 --> 06:18:32.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Saan po galing itong

asr-006109
06:18:32.420 --> 06:18:34.320
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 98.91 compliance rate

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06:18:34.320 --> 06:18:35.160
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng DOLE na ito?

asr-006111
06:18:54.720 --> 06:18:55.580
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

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06:18:55.680 --> 06:18:56.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-006113
06:18:56.400 --> 06:18:56.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: are you referring to the

asr-006114
06:18:56.760 --> 06:18:59.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: same compliance rate,

asr-006115
06:19:00.020 --> 06:19:01.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 98.1% sa OSH?

asr-006116
06:19:02.420 --> 06:19:04.840
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: This was mentioned to us

asr-006117
06:19:04.840 --> 06:19:05.780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: in a letter

asr-006118
06:19:05.780 --> 06:19:08.240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: from DOLE

asr-006119
06:19:08.240 --> 06:19:09.740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: as a response to our query

asr-006120
06:19:09.740 --> 06:19:11.680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: regarding the implementation

asr-006121
06:19:11.680 --> 06:19:14.440
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of DO 156.

asr-006122
06:19:14.440 --> 06:19:15.440
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Do 156.

asr-006123
06:19:18.780 --> 06:19:25.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006124
06:19:25.720 --> 06:19:26.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-006125
06:19:26.300 --> 06:19:28.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito nga po din sa ating

asr-006126
06:19:28.060 --> 06:19:29.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining sa minimum wage,

asr-006127
06:19:29.560 --> 06:19:31.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 98.91%.

asr-006128
06:19:31.460 --> 06:19:34.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So, gano'n na po karami pa

asr-006129
06:19:34.420 --> 06:19:35.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang biktima pa rin

asr-006130
06:19:35.420 --> 06:19:36.840
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng traditional sharing scheme

asr-006131
06:19:36.840 --> 06:19:37.480
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of payment?

asr-006132
06:19:50.360 --> 06:19:51.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006133
06:19:51.240 --> 06:19:51.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-006134
06:19:52.020 --> 06:19:53.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang suma total po

asr-006135
06:19:53.320 --> 06:19:54.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is less than 2%.

asr-006136
06:19:54.280 --> 06:19:56.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nasaan po itong mga biktimang

asr-006137
06:19:56.220 --> 06:19:57.700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ito noong traditional

asr-006138
06:19:57.700 --> 06:19:58.560
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sharing scheme?

asr-006139
06:20:03.940 --> 06:20:04.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006140
06:20:04.940 --> 06:20:05.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-006141
06:20:06.460 --> 06:20:08.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: if it's amenable to you,

asr-006142
06:20:08.880 --> 06:20:09.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we can furnish the,

asr-006143
06:20:10.440 --> 06:20:11.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we'll just compile the cases

asr-006144
06:20:11.760 --> 06:20:13.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa Region 12 at the same time.

asr-006145
06:20:13.600 --> 06:20:15.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Give the Distinguished Colleague

asr-006146
06:20:15.300 --> 06:20:17.140
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung kumpletong datos po.

asr-006147
06:20:17.760 --> 06:20:18.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006148
06:20:18.260 --> 06:20:18.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Distinguished Colleague.

asr-006149
06:20:19.280 --> 06:20:19.640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po,

asr-006150
06:20:19.720 --> 06:20:20.760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: hintayin po natin yan

asr-006151
06:20:20.760 --> 06:20:22.160
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: kasi nakikita po natin

asr-006152
06:20:22.160 --> 06:20:23.040
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa kabila po

asr-006153
06:20:23.040 --> 06:20:24.040
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng implementation

asr-006154
06:20:24.040 --> 06:20:25.620
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng DO 156,

asr-006155
06:20:25.740 --> 06:20:26.200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mayroon pa rin po

asr-006156
06:20:26.200 --> 06:20:27.600
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: tayong mga manggagawa

asr-006157
06:20:27.600 --> 06:20:29.520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa commercial fishing

asr-006158
06:20:29.520 --> 06:20:30.200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: vessels

asr-006159
06:20:30.800 --> 06:20:32.240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa industriya pong ito

asr-006160
06:20:32.240 --> 06:20:33.260
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang nakakaranas

asr-006161
06:20:33.260 --> 06:20:34.840
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng violation pa rin

asr-006162
06:20:34.840 --> 06:20:35.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng kanilang karapatan

asr-006163
06:20:35.880 --> 06:20:37.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para po sa minimum wage.

asr-006164
06:20:37.340 --> 06:20:38.160
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So, we will wait

asr-006165
06:20:38.160 --> 06:20:40.200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: for the report

asr-006166
06:20:40.960 --> 06:20:42.140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the Department of Labor

asr-006167
06:20:42.140 --> 06:20:42.840
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: through the good

asr-006168
06:20:42.840 --> 06:20:44.700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sponsor, Madam Speaker.

asr-006169
06:20:44.860 --> 06:20:45.680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Let me move on

asr-006170
06:20:45.680 --> 06:20:46.700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: to another issue.

asr-006171
06:20:47.260 --> 06:20:47.760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And this is

asr-006172
06:20:47.760 --> 06:20:49.660
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ILO Convention No. 81.

asr-006173
06:20:49.920 --> 06:20:50.820
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Noong November po,

asr-006174
06:20:50.860 --> 06:20:51.480
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: noong isang taon,

asr-006175
06:20:51.900 --> 06:20:53.340
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ipinatupad na ng Pilipinas.

asr-006176
06:20:53.820 --> 06:20:54.780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At naglalayon po ito

asr-006177
06:20:54.780 --> 06:20:55.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na magtakda

asr-006178
06:20:55.420 --> 06:20:56.080
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng standards

asr-006180
06:20:56.200 --> 06:20:56.940
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para sa labor

asr-006181
06:20:56.940 --> 06:20:58.240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspection.

asr-006182
06:20:59.140 --> 06:20:59.860
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Mismo na pong

asr-006183
06:20:59.860 --> 06:21:00.860
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: labor sekretary natin

asr-006184
06:21:00.860 --> 06:21:01.640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na nagsabi na

asr-006185
06:21:01.640 --> 06:21:02.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 447

asr-006186
06:21:02.880 --> 06:21:04.160
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: out of the

asr-006187
06:21:04.160 --> 06:21:05.680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 1,210 labor

asr-006188
06:21:05.680 --> 06:21:06.620
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspectors lang

asr-006189
06:21:06.620 --> 06:21:08.100
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang talagang gumagawa

asr-006190
06:21:08.100 --> 06:21:08.860
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ng labor

asr-006191
06:21:08.860 --> 06:21:10.020
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspection

asr-006192
06:21:10.020 --> 06:21:10.960
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa mga kumpanya.

asr-006193
06:21:11.460 --> 06:21:12.580
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sa proposed budget po

asr-006194
06:21:12.580 --> 06:21:15.740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na 877.34 million

asr-006195
06:21:15.740 --> 06:21:16.700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: for labor

asr-006196
06:21:16.700 --> 06:21:17.200
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: laws compliance,

asr-006197
06:21:17.940 --> 06:21:18.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ilan po ang

asr-006198
06:21:18.420 --> 06:21:19.140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: mahire na

asr-006199
06:21:19.140 --> 06:21:20.560
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: labor inspectors

asr-006200
06:21:20.560 --> 06:21:21.360
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: for next year,

asr-006201
06:21:21.720 --> 06:21:22.260
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Madam Speaker,

asr-006202
06:21:22.400 --> 06:21:22.900
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: good sponsor.

asr-006203
06:21:26.200 --> 06:21:27.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Based dun sa data

asr-006204
06:21:27.280 --> 06:21:27.920
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ang binanggit po,

asr-006205
06:21:28.000 --> 06:21:28.500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006206
06:21:28.600 --> 06:21:29.220
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

asr-006207
06:21:29.460 --> 06:21:30.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kung ilan yung mahahire,

asr-006208
06:21:31.140 --> 06:21:31.480
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is so

asr-006209
06:21:51.300 --> 06:21:51.820
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006210
06:21:51.940 --> 06:21:52.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

asr-006211
06:21:52.700 --> 06:21:53.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pasensya na po

asr-006212
06:21:53.240 --> 06:21:53.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: for the delay.

asr-006213
06:21:54.460 --> 06:21:55.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: But based dun sa ating

asr-006214
06:21:55.840 --> 06:21:57.840
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: datos na nakahawak dito

asr-006215
06:21:57.840 --> 06:21:58.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pertaining sa labor

asr-006216
06:21:58.640 --> 06:21:59.300
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: inspectors,

asr-006217
06:21:59.460 --> 06:22:00.120
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: which is totaling,

asr-006218
06:22:00.420 --> 06:22:01.500
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dun po sa binabanggit na

asr-006219
06:22:01.500 --> 06:22:04.720
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 876 million,

asr-006220
06:22:04.900 --> 06:22:05.520
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ay meron po tayong

asr-006221
06:22:05.520 --> 06:22:07.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 1,046 na

asr-006222
06:22:07.640 --> 06:22:08.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: labor inspectors,

asr-006223
06:22:09.100 --> 06:22:09.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006224
06:22:09.620 --> 06:22:10.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague.

asr-006225
06:22:10.480 --> 06:22:11.340
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Additional labor

asr-006226
06:22:11.340 --> 06:22:12.060
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: inspectors?

asr-006227
06:22:12.500 --> 06:22:12.620
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: No.

asr-006228
06:22:13.200 --> 06:22:13.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Existing po,

asr-006229
06:22:14.060 --> 06:22:15.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: filled up.

asr-006230
06:22:16.420 --> 06:22:16.940
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Filled up?

asr-006231
06:22:17.260 --> 06:22:17.620
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po.

asr-006232
06:22:18.280 --> 06:22:18.820
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kasi po,

asr-006233
06:22:18.880 --> 06:22:19.760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang nabanggit na ating

asr-006234
06:22:19.760 --> 06:22:20.680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: labor sekretary,

asr-006235
06:22:20.780 --> 06:22:21.760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: only 447

asr-006236
06:22:21.760 --> 06:22:23.680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: out of 1,210.

asr-006237
06:22:24.180 --> 06:22:24.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So ano naman po

asr-006238
06:22:24.880 --> 06:22:25.520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ang plano natin,

asr-006239
06:22:25.620 --> 06:22:25.780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: doon sa

asr-006240
06:22:25.780 --> 06:22:27.600
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: remaining 763

asr-006241
06:22:27.600 --> 06:22:28.400
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: out of that

asr-006242
06:22:28.400 --> 06:22:30.040
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 210 labor inspectors

asr-006243
06:22:30.040 --> 06:22:30.800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa hindi actively

asr-006244
06:22:30.800 --> 06:22:31.580
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: nag-inspect.

asr-006245
06:22:34.640 --> 06:22:35.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006246
06:22:35.660 --> 06:22:36.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

asr-006247
06:22:37.440 --> 06:22:38.660
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: to refresh everything,

asr-006248
06:22:39.300 --> 06:22:40.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung current plantila po

asr-006249
06:22:40.540 --> 06:22:42.180
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: is 1,210.

asr-006250
06:22:43.460 --> 06:22:44.420
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And yung binagit ko po

asr-006251
06:22:44.420 --> 06:22:44.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kanina,

asr-006252
06:22:44.900 --> 06:22:46.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: so 1,210,

asr-006253
06:22:46.300 --> 06:22:47.000
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: you will less

asr-006254
06:22:47.000 --> 06:22:49.060
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa 1,046.

asr-006255
06:22:49.760 --> 06:22:50.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So if minus

asr-006256
06:22:50.440 --> 06:22:51.880
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 1,046 to

asr-006257
06:22:51.880 --> 06:22:53.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 1,210,

asr-006258
06:22:54.080 --> 06:22:54.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: eh hindi po

asr-006259
06:22:54.540 --> 06:22:55.240
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 700 plus.

asr-006260
06:22:55.440 --> 06:22:55.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: So,

asr-006261
06:22:55.460 --> 06:22:55.760
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hindi po

asr-006262
06:22:55.780 --> 06:22:56.600
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ilan na lamang po

asr-006263
06:22:56.600 --> 06:22:57.400
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: yung kailangan

asr-006264
06:22:57.400 --> 06:22:58.200
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: punan.

asr-006265
06:22:59.420 --> 06:23:00.900
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Na-fill up na.

asr-006266
06:23:03.200 --> 06:23:03.860
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po.

asr-006267
06:23:04.080 --> 06:23:05.000
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So ma-fill up po

asr-006268
06:23:05.000 --> 06:23:05.440
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: natin to

asr-006269
06:23:05.440 --> 06:23:06.380
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: given the proposed

asr-006270
06:23:06.380 --> 06:23:07.740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: budget for 2027.

asr-006271
06:23:10.840 --> 06:23:11.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

asr-006272
06:23:11.400 --> 06:23:13.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: additional information,

asr-006273
06:23:14.080 --> 06:23:14.540
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: Madam Speaker,

asr-006274
06:23:14.640 --> 06:23:15.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: distinguished colleague,

asr-006275
06:23:15.320 --> 06:23:15.740
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kasi yung

asr-006276
06:23:15.740 --> 06:23:16.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: binanggit niyo po

asr-006277
06:23:16.860 --> 06:23:17.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: kanin datos

asr-006278
06:23:17.380 --> 06:23:18.640
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: was ngayon na

asr-006279
06:23:18.640 --> 06:23:19.320
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: ito yung nga po

asr-006280
06:23:19.320 --> 06:23:20.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: pinaka-updated

asr-006281
06:23:20.160 --> 06:23:20.980
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa ngayon

asr-006282
06:23:20.980 --> 06:23:21.780
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: at the time

asr-006283
06:23:21.780 --> 06:23:22.340
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: as we speak.

asr-006284
06:23:23.440 --> 06:23:24.140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So for the record,

asr-006285
06:23:24.220 --> 06:23:24.620
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ano nga po

asr-006286
06:23:24.620 --> 06:23:25.280
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: ulit ang datos?

asr-006287
06:23:25.280 --> 06:23:27.280
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: 1,046

asr-006288
06:23:27.920 --> 06:23:30.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: labor inspectors.

asr-006289
06:23:30.420 --> 06:23:30.560
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: And,

asr-006290
06:23:30.860 --> 06:23:31.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: after this,

asr-006291
06:23:31.580 --> 06:23:31.800
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we can,

asr-006292
06:23:32.240 --> 06:23:33.160
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: if the good

asr-006293
06:23:33.160 --> 06:23:36.460
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: gentleman would,

asr-006294
06:23:36.680 --> 06:23:37.260
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: we will give you

asr-006295
06:23:37.260 --> 06:23:38.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: the exact data

asr-006296
06:23:38.360 --> 06:23:39.680
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: para on the chart po

asr-006297
06:23:39.680 --> 06:23:40.360
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: per region

asr-006298
06:23:40.360 --> 06:23:41.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na nakalagay dito

asr-006299
06:23:41.860 --> 06:23:42.860
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: and with totals

asr-006300
06:23:42.860 --> 06:23:43.700
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: dito po

asr-006301
06:23:43.700 --> 06:23:44.440
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: sa aming chart

asr-006302
06:23:44.440 --> 06:23:45.380
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: na kasalukuyang

asr-006303
06:23:45.380 --> 06:23:45.960
Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara: hawak.

asr-006304
06:23:47.000 --> 06:23:47.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sige po.

asr-006305
06:23:47.540 --> 06:23:48.220
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Marami pa po

asr-006306
06:23:48.220 --> 06:23:49.000
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sana akong tanong

asr-006307
06:23:49.000 --> 06:23:50.000
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: pero nangako po ako

asr-006308
06:23:50.000 --> 06:23:50.760
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that I'll keep it

asr-006309
06:23:50.760 --> 06:23:51.520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at 10 minutes

asr-006310
06:23:51.520 --> 06:23:52.940
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at unholy na po

asr-006311
06:23:52.940 --> 06:23:53.800
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: talaga yung hour.

asr-006312
06:23:54.280 --> 06:23:54.640
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So,

asr-006313
06:23:54.640 --> 06:23:55.240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: with,

asr-006314
06:23:55.280 --> 06:23:55.740
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: with no other

asr-006315
06:23:55.740 --> 06:23:56.940
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: member of the

asr-006316
06:23:56.940 --> 06:23:57.440
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: minority

asr-006317
06:23:57.440 --> 06:23:58.520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: that wish to

asr-006318
06:23:58.520 --> 06:23:59.600
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: propound questions

asr-006319
06:23:59.600 --> 06:24:00.180
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: to the Department

asr-006320
06:24:00.180 --> 06:24:00.700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of Labor,

asr-006321
06:24:01.080 --> 06:24:01.780
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I move to

asr-006322
06:24:01.780 --> 06:24:02.320
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: terminate

asr-006323
06:24:02.320 --> 06:24:03.140
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: the period

asr-006324
06:24:03.140 --> 06:24:04.040
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of interpellation

asr-006325
06:24:04.040 --> 06:24:04.700
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the budget

asr-006326
06:24:04.700 --> 06:24:05.320
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the Department

asr-006327
06:24:05.320 --> 06:24:06.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: of the Department of Labor and Employment,

asr-006328
06:24:06.420 --> 06:24:07.240
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: TESDA

asr-006329
06:24:07.240 --> 06:24:07.960
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: and its attached

asr-006330
06:24:07.960 --> 06:24:08.520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: agencies.

asr-006331
06:24:09.080 --> 06:24:10.160
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House

asr-006332
06:24:10.160 --> 06:24:10.480
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: say?

asr-006333
06:24:11.840 --> 06:24:12.680
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker,

asr-006334
06:24:13.000 --> 06:24:13.680
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: on the part

asr-006335
06:24:13.680 --> 06:24:14.580
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: of the majority,

asr-006336
06:24:15.320 --> 06:24:15.860
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: we join

asr-006337
06:24:15.860 --> 06:24:16.760
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: the minority

asr-006338
06:24:16.760 --> 06:24:18.120
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: in the motion

asr-006339
06:24:18.120 --> 06:24:19.160
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: to terminate

asr-006340
06:24:19.160 --> 06:24:20.120
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: the interpellations

asr-006341
06:24:20.120 --> 06:24:21.500
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: on the proposed

asr-006342
06:24:21.500 --> 06:24:22.080
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: budget

asr-006343
06:24:22.080 --> 06:24:23.520
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: of the Department

asr-006344
06:24:23.520 --> 06:24:24.320
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: of Labor

asr-006345
06:24:24.320 --> 06:24:25.120
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: and Employment

asr-006346
06:24:25.280 --> 06:24:26.880
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: and its attached

asr-006347
06:24:26.880 --> 06:24:27.440
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: agencies,

asr-006348
06:24:27.440 --> 06:24:28.440
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker.

asr-006349
06:24:28.440 --> 06:24:29.080
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: So, move,

asr-006350
06:24:29.080 --> 06:24:29.680
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker.

asr-006351
06:24:29.680 --> 06:24:30.760
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion

asr-006352
06:24:30.760 --> 06:24:31.320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: to terminate

asr-006353
06:24:31.320 --> 06:24:32.080
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the interpellations

asr-006354
06:24:32.080 --> 06:24:32.720
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the proposed

asr-006355
06:24:32.720 --> 06:24:34.120
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: budget of the Department

asr-006356
06:24:34.120 --> 06:24:35.320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of Labor and Employment

asr-006357
06:24:35.320 --> 06:24:36.120
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: including its

asr-006358
06:24:36.120 --> 06:24:37.440
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: attached agencies.

asr-006359
06:24:37.440 --> 06:24:38.040
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any

asr-006360
06:24:38.040 --> 06:24:39.320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: objection?

asr-006361
06:24:39.320 --> 06:24:40.520
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none.

asr-006362
06:24:40.520 --> 06:24:41.320
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations

asr-006363
06:24:41.320 --> 06:24:42.000
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the proposed

asr-006364
06:24:42.000 --> 06:24:43.440
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: budget of said agency

asr-006365
06:24:43.440 --> 06:24:45.600
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby terminated.

asr-006366
06:24:45.600 --> 06:24:46.560
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader.

asr-006367
06:24:46.560 --> 06:24:48.120
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: Madam Speaker,

asr-006368
06:24:48.120 --> 06:24:49.040
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: I move that we

asr-006369
06:24:49.040 --> 06:24:50.000
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: suspend

asr-006370
06:24:50.000 --> 06:24:51.440
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: session

asr-006371
06:24:51.440 --> 06:24:52.840
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: until later

asr-006372
06:24:52.840 --> 06:24:54.640
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: 10 a.m.

asr-006373
06:24:54.640 --> 06:24:56.560
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: September 17.

asr-006374
06:24:56.560 --> 06:24:57.800
Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda: So, move, Madam Speaker.

asr-006375
06:24:57.800 --> 06:24:59.000
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection?

asr-006376
06:24:59.000 --> 06:25:00.000
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none.

asr-006377
06:25:00.000 --> 06:25:01.640
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended

asr-006378
06:25:01.640 --> 06:25:06.560
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: until September 17

asr-006379
06:25:06.560 --> 06:25:09.280
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: at 10 in the morning.

asr-006380
06:25:09.280 --> 06:25:10.720
Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended.