# House Plenary: FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 2 Part 2 - September 16, 2026

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qulUiqaZJIQ

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**[00:00:00.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000001)  
No other member from the minority to interpolate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the consideration of budget of DAR for fiscal year 2027.

**[00:00:15.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000002)  
So moved, Madam Speaker.

**[00:00:16.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000003)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:00:17.900] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000004)  
Maraming salamat po, Majority Leader.

**[00:00:20.300] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000005)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:00:22.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000006)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[00:00:24.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000007)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the DAR.

**[00:00:34.420] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000008)  
There is a joint motion from the majority and the minority to terminate the period of sponsorship, debate, and interpolation insofar as the proposed budget of the Department of Agrarian Reform is concerned.

**[00:00:45.180] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000009)  
Any objection? Hearing none, said motion is carried.

**[00:00:48.940] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000010)  
The period of debate, the sponsorship, debate, and interpolation of the proposed budget of the Department of Agrarian Reform is carried.

**[00:00:54.320] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000011)  
The period of debate, the sponsorship, debate, and interpolation of the Department of Agrarian Reform is hereby terminated.

**[00:00:57.560] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000012)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:00:58.300] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000013)  
Madam Speaker, before we move on to the next proposed budget, may we recognize the guests of Assistant Majority Leader, Honorable Daphne Lagon, Congresswoman of the 6th District of Cebu.

**[00:01:11.180] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000014)  
They are from the Municipal and Barangay Officials from the Municipality of Consolacion, Cebu, led by Mayor Teresa Pepito-Alegado, and Vice Mayor Mariana.

**[00:01:24.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000015)  
Johannes Pepito.

**[00:01:25.380] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000016)  
They are Mayor Teresita Pepito-Alegado, Vice Mayor Johannes Alegado, Kabangahan Barangay Captain Edwin Menoza, N-Council, Kansanga Barangay Captain Peter Cabillada, N-Council, Kasili Barangay Captain Eddie Alilin, N-Council,

**[00:01:48.380] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000017)  
Danglag Barangay Captain Claude Dualdo Ibon-Arendez.

**[00:01:54.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000018)  
Garing Barangay Captain and ABC President Wesley Alimorin, N-Council, Ugan Barangay Captain Tony Pepito, N-Council, Lamac Barangay Captain Nestos Maglasang, N-Council, Renipga Barangay Captain Russell Balaba, N-Council, Nangka Barangay Captain Neil Congso, N-Council,

**[00:02:24.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000019)  
Ponoy Poy Barangay Captain Balaba, N-Council, Panas Barangay Captain Nelson Cutab, N-Council, Pitogo Barangay Captain Alan Claire Madhos, N-Council,

**[00:02:40.000] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000020)  
Poblasyon Occidental Barangay Captain Alary Alegado, N-Council, Poblasyon Oriental Barangay Captain John Hanyel Abinales, N-Council,

**[00:02:50.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000021)  
Polog Barangay Captain Glenn Royang, N-Council,

**[00:02:54.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000022)  
Pulpogan Barangay Captain Avelino Bihag, Tayod Barangay Fek Kuyos, N-Council,

**[00:03:02.980] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000023)  
Tilhaong Barangay Captain Reggie Lutuaw,

**[00:03:07.340] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000024)  
Tolo-Tolo Barangay Captain Earl Anthony Tapayan, N-Council,

**[00:03:15.640] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000025)  
Tugbongan Barangay Captain Paz Barroso, N-Council.

**[00:03:20.000] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000026)  
Thank you.

**[00:03:23.120] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000028)  
To the guests of the Honorable Daphne Lagon,

**[00:03:25.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000029)  
ang pinakagwapan na congresswoman, Karong Adlawa.

**[00:03:29.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000030)  
Karong Adlawa, ha?

**[00:03:30.380] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000031)  
Of course, the municipal and barangay officials from the Municipality of Consolacion,

**[00:03:37.140] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000032)  
Cebu-headed by Mayor Teresa Pepito Alegado.

**[00:03:41.140] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000033)  
Mayor, mayang gabiin inyong tanan.

**[00:03:44.260] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000034)  
You are the voice, the inspiration, kamuang haligi o kusog sa kongreso.

**[00:03:49.940] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000035)  
Daghan kayong salamat sa inyong pagbisita.

**[00:03:53.120] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000036)  
God bless you always.

**[00:03:58.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000038)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:04:00.060] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000039)  
Moment of suspension, Madam Speaker.

**[00:04:02.160] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000040)  
Session suspended.

**[00:10:53.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000054)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[00:10:55.300] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000054-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Human Rights.

**[00:11:03.450] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000054-split-3)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

**[00:11:06.440] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000054-split-4)  
Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Commission on Human Rights, namely the Chairperson, Attorney Richard P. Palpal-latoc, Commissioners Attorney Beda A. Epres,

**[00:11:23.120] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000055)  
Attorney Faydah M. Dumarpa, Justice Monina A. Zenarosa, Judge Maria Amifaith S. Fider-Reyes, together with Executive Director Attorney Jacqueline Ann C. de Guia and Human Rights Violations Victims' Memorial Commission Acting Executive Director Lawrence Charles E. Salazar.

**[00:11:53.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000056)  
We acknowledge the presence of the heads and staff of the Commission on Human Rights. Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

**[00:11:59.230] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000056-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate, and I move to recognize the sponsor, Vice Chair Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez of Alona Partylist.

**[00:12:17.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000056-split-3)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The period of sponsorship and debate is now open, and we recognize the sponsor

**[00:12:23.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000057)  
The budget of the Commission on Human Rights, in the person of Vice Chairperson of Appropriations Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez of Alona Partylist. You may now proceed.

**[00:12:35.230] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000057-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues in the House of Representatives, magandang gabi po sa ating lahat. I rise today to sponsor the fiscal year 2027 budget of the Commission on Human Rights, an independent constitutional institution trusted with protecting the dignity and fundamental rights of every Filipino.

**[00:12:53.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000058)  
Madam Speaker, allow me to put the CHR budget in perspective through one figure: 0.02%. Out of proposed 7.2 trillion national budget, only PHP 1.273 billion, or around 0.02%, is provided for the CHR under the National Expenditure Program. The Commission proposed 2.749 billion.

**[00:13:23.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000059)  
Even if Congress were to provide the entire amount, it would only represent around 0.04% of the national budget, from 0.02% to 0.04%. Napakaliit po ng hinihingi ng CHR, but it can make a meaningful difference in its ability to investigate human rights violations, assist victims, prevent abuse, and protect the rights of our people.

**[00:13:53.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000060)  
We cannot continue asking the CHR to do more without giving it the resources necessary to fulfill its constitutional mandate. The CHR is not an adversary of government. Kakampi po natin ang CHR sa mabuting pamamahala. A stronger and independent CHR strengthens accountability, protects the vulnerable, and helps build public trust in our institution. Madam Speaker,

**[00:14:23.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000061)  
0.1% is a modest investment for our institution mandated to safeguard the rights of 100% of our Filipino people. For this reason, I respectfully urge this august chamber to support the approval and augmentation of the fiscal 2027 budget of the Commission on Human Rights. Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, and I am now ready to take questions from our distinguished

**[00:14:52.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000062)  
colleagues.

**[00:14:53.020] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000064)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:15:00.000] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000065)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist to interpellate on the proposed budget.

**[00:15:09.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000066)  
Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist is now recognized for her interpolation.

**[00:15:15.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000067)  
Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, the Commission on Human Rights Family. Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.

**[00:15:23.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000068)  
Unang katanungan ko po, would the Commission agree that the credibility of the Philippines' human rights institutions is itself an important component of the country's credibility in the international community?

**[00:15:39.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000069)  
Yes po Madam Speaker.

**[00:15:40.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000070)  
Thank you Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[00:15:45.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000071)  
The recent failure of our country's bid for a non-permanent seat in the United Nations Security Council,

**[00:15:53.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000072)  
losing

**[00:15:53.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000073)  
the Asia-Pacific contest to Kyrgyzstan in June 2026 has been interpreted by some as a human rights warning.

**[00:16:01.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000074)  
In fact, prominent international human rights organizations including the International Coalition for Human Rights in the Philippines

**[00:16:08.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000075)  
have publicly interpreted this electoral setback as a direct reflection of ongoing concerns regarding our domestic human rights record,

**[00:16:19.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000076)  
especially during the Duterte administration.

**[00:16:23.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000077)  
Does the Sponsor share this view?

**[00:16:27.480] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000078)  
Yes, Madam Chair.

**[00:16:30.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000079)  
What role exactly did this unresolved human rights violation, especially in the past administration, play in this outcome?

**[00:17:07.360] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000080)  
Madam Chair,

**[00:17:09.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000081)  
one of the Commission's significant accomplishments has been the implementation of the Task Force on Zero Backlog Cases,

**[00:17:16.100] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000082)  
which substantially reduced the number of pending cases and helped clean up and reconcile our case data.

**[00:17:23.240] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000083)  
In particular,

**[00:17:23.920] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000084)  
the Commission has identified 493 cases for reinvestigation in 2024,

**[00:17:30.480] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000085)  
and the Task Force has directed of 289 cases reinvestigated in 2025.

**[00:17:37.700] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000086)  
Of these 289 reinvestigated cases, 140 cases are currently for disposition by the TF.

**[00:17:45.540] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000087)  
The Task Force also successfully reviewed and evaluated these cases identified for reinvestigation,

**[00:17:52.540] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000088)  
and has begun drafting the corresponding resolution for disposition.

**[00:17:57.720] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000089)  
This process remains ongoing, with the Commission committed to completing the disposition of these cases by the end of the year, Madam Chair.

**[00:18:07.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000090)  
Thank you, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[00:18:10.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000091)  
Yung mga binanggit niyo po ay mga accomplishments po ba yan ng CHR?

**[00:18:16.500] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000092)  
Yes po, Madam Chair.

**[00:18:17.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000093)  
But I was actually trying to find out if, when I asked a while ago,

**[00:18:22.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000094)  
if the Human Rights Record of the Philippines, as seen by the international community,

**[00:18:28.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000095)  
had something to do with our lost bid to the UNSC,

**[00:18:34.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000096)  
and to which you said in the affirmative,

**[00:18:36.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000097)  
ang gusto ko pong malaman nga,

**[00:18:39.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000098)  
ano po itong mga unresolved cases in the past administration that you think ay nakakapag-contribute doon sa paningin na iyon ng international community?

**[00:18:57.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000099)  
Madam Chair, Representative Montes,

**[00:19:02.700] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000100)  
for example po, ang ating pong mga naka-accomplish po ay katulad po ng red tagging and EJA.

**[00:19:08.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000101)  
Okay, thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues.

**[00:19:14.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000102)  
Yung mga ganyan po, nabanggit niyo po yung mga red tagging EJK,

**[00:19:20.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000103)  
has the Commission

**[00:19:22.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000104)  
examined

**[00:19:23.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000105)  
Whether these concerns ng international community, consistent po ba yan sa findings ng Human Rights Commission?

**[00:19:31.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000106)  
Po, ano po yung iniisip ng international community?

**[00:19:35.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000107)  
Yan din po ba ang paningin ng CHR?

**[00:19:40.260] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000108)  
Yes po, Madam Chair.

**[00:19:42.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000109)  
Okay po. Maraming salamat po.

**[00:19:46.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000110)  
Can CHR identify programs, especially in the 2027 budget

**[00:19:53.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000111)  
that have demonstrated measurable improvements in compliance with human rights standards?

**[00:20:01.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000112)  
Ano po yung mga programang nakapaloob dyan sa 2027 budget natin na magpapakita o magpapatunay na meron nga from the past administration, meron po tayong improvement ngayon?

**[00:20:16.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000113)  
A human rights-centered national protection response mechanism.

**[00:20:20.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000114)  
It integrates

**[00:20:22.360] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000115)  
early warning, victim supports, and rapid response mechanism.

**[00:20:26.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000116)  
So, meron po tayo ng mga tinatawag po nating programa, katulad po ng Bantay Karapatang Pantao,

**[00:20:33.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000117)  
which detect, monitor, and prevent human rights risks through data and intelligence.

**[00:20:39.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000118)  
Kalinga Karapatang Pantao provides holistic, victim-centered support, protection, and recovery services.

**[00:20:46.320] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000119)  
At syempre po, meron din po tayong Tugon Karapatang Pantao, which responds quickly, coordinates,

**[00:20:52.540] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000120)  
intervention, and ensure protection and accountability.

**[00:20:56.500] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000121)  
Madam Chair.

**[00:20:57.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000122)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[00:21:01.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000123)  
Let me move on to my next question.

**[00:21:04.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000124)  
Just this morning, during the budget deliberations of the Dangerous Drugs Board,

**[00:21:11.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000125)  
the Sponsor, Congressman Marcy Cudoro, made mention of the necessity to include the Commission on Human Rights

**[00:21:18.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000126)  
as a part of the Board of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

**[00:21:22.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000127)  
If ever we include the CHR in the DDB, of course, by way of an amendment to the law creating the DDB,

**[00:21:34.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000128)  
how do you envision your role in shaping drug-related policy?

**[00:21:41.340] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000129)  
Madam Chair, alam niyo po, mandato po ng CHR, lahat po ng karapatang pantao ay lagi po natin ang gagampanan.

**[00:21:48.340] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000130)  
Pero doon po sa, kanina po sa Dangerous Drugs Board,

**[00:21:52.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000131)  
siyempre po, more than willing po na makisama, makisuporta ang CHR,

**[00:21:59.020] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000132)  
at magkaroon po kami ng sarili natin position paper sa lahat po ng mga cases na drug-related po.

**[00:22:09.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000133)  
Actually, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[00:22:14.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000134)  
what the DDB, what the sponsor of the DDB budget really wanted was to include the CHR

**[00:22:22.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000135)  
in the board as to help in formulating policies, kasi policymaking po yung Dangerous Drugs Board,

**[00:22:34.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000136)  
to help in the formulation of policies.

**[00:22:36.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000137)  
So, alam po natin naging issue yung mga EJK, mga drugs in the past.

**[00:22:44.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000138)  
So, I think it really is necessary to include the CHR there.

**[00:22:52.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000139)  
So, halimbawa po, kasi I'm looking at, I'm willing to sponsor a bill tungkol po dyan.

**[00:23:02.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000140)  
I'm looking at, for instance, in strengthening oversight sa human rights in drugs enforcement strategies.

**[00:23:09.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000141)  
Ano ang pwedeng maitulong ng CHR in that regard?

**[00:23:14.460] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000142)  
Okay. Sagutin ko po muna yung unang question nyo po ulit, Madam Chair.

**[00:23:19.480] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000143)  
The DDB, no. The DDB has not included.

**[00:23:22.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000144)  
The DDB has not engaged with CHR, but the CHR is more willing to be an observer po.

**[00:23:27.720] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000145)  
With regards po sa drug-related po, CHR proposes that drug use to be treated as a public health issue.

**[00:23:35.900] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000146)  
Kasi po, drug use is currently being over-criminalized where users who need services to address their dependence or use are instead treated as criminals and jails.

**[00:23:47.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000147)  
Drug cases contribute to more than 70% of the jails.

**[00:23:52.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000148)  
So, sa lahat po ng mga pinupuntahan po ng CHR, Madam Chair, 70% po ang mga nakakulong po sa ating mga PDLs po natin.

**[00:24:03.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000149)  
Yeah. What you said was as observer. Is that correct? Did I hear you right?

**[00:24:09.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000150)  
Yes, Madam Chair.

**[00:24:11.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000151)  
Hindi po, hindi po sang-ayon na maging permanent seat sa board yung CHR.

**[00:24:19.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000152)  
Kasi kung ang pagbabasehan po natin,

**[00:24:22.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000153)  
nung kung nga po una, kung naka-apekto yung mga EJK, mga problema ng human rights violations doon sa drugs,

**[00:24:30.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000154)  
hindi po ba dapat nandodon din ang CHR?

**[00:24:35.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000155)  
Kasi kung may mga usapin po tayo ng paglabag ng human rights doon sa mga biktima ng mga EJKs.

**[00:24:43.020] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000156)  
Madam Chair, ulitin po namin, we cannot because we have to maintain our independence po.

**[00:24:49.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000157)  
Okay.

**[00:24:52.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000158)  
Ibig sabihin po, kung sakasakali, your participation would only be limited to being an observer

**[00:24:59.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000159)  
and not contributing to the policies of the Dangerous Drugs Board.

**[00:25:04.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000160)  
We can contribute po. We can contribute po, Madam Chair, but we cannot sit as a regular member of the board, as an independent body.

**[00:25:13.680] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000161)  
So, yan po yung mandato sa atin ng konstitusyon.

**[00:25:17.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000162)  
Opo. Naiintindihan po natin yun, pero parte po din ng trabaho.

**[00:25:22.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000163)  
Human rights ng CHR ang pagprotekta sa mga vulnerable grupo, katulad ng mga kabataan,

**[00:25:29.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000164)  
and especially women, because the CHR has a gender—is the gender ombud.

**[00:25:35.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000165)  
Now, these people, yung mga youth, yung mga women, sila usually ang nabibiktima.

**[00:25:41.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000166)  
Ang karapatan nila ay nayuyurakan, natatapakan.

**[00:25:44.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000167)  
So, tungkulin ng CHR, then na maprotektahan sila.

**[00:25:47.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000168)  
So, how do we reconcile now this mandate and this duty?

**[00:25:52.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000169)  
If you are saying na hindi yan mandato po ng CHR?

**[00:25:56.640] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000170)  
Madam Chair, kung Montes, I'm with you sa karapatan po ng lahat ng ating mga vulnerable sectors,

**[00:26:03.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000171)  
but syempre po, CHR is not a part of the executive, but we can monitor and we are the advisor of the government.

**[00:26:13.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000172)  
Okay, thank you so much, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor.

**[00:26:18.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000173)  
Ang sa akin lang po, it's also a matter of...

**[00:26:22.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000174)  
you know, balancing security and rights in policymaking.

**[00:26:26.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000175)  
If the CHR does not see it that way,

**[00:26:30.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000176)  
then perhaps there are other ways for which CHR can be able to contribute to policies

**[00:26:36.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000177)  
that affect human rights in the issue of drugs.

**[00:26:42.500] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000178)  
Madam Chair, Madam Speaker,

**[00:26:45.680] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000179)  
CHR seats as observed in all interagency bodies,

**[00:26:50.740] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000180)  
but it is also an activity...

**[00:26:52.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000181)  
It is also an activity for which CHR can participate in awarding recommendations to different agencies.

**[00:26:57.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000182)  
If that being so, Mr. Chair, kung nakaupo pala talaga doon,

**[00:27:01.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000183)  
ano po ang naging contribution ng CHR noong mga panahon na may mga aligasyon ng paglabag ng karapatang pantao

**[00:27:09.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000184)  
sa mga tokhang, sa mga EJ case, and all,

**[00:27:16.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000185)  
na naging sanhi kung bakit napasama yung ating iman,

**[00:27:22.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000186)  
kahit sa international community.

**[00:27:31.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000187)  
We are having our undertaking its own investigations.

**[00:27:36.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000188)  
So lahat po ng cases na nagkakaroon po tayo being forwarded po sa CHR,

**[00:27:41.880] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000189)  
unang-una po tinatanggap po natin yan.

**[00:27:44.340] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000190)  
Nagkakaroon po tayo ng investigation,

**[00:27:46.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000191)  
at syempre po, hanggang doon lamang po ang ating mandato,

**[00:27:49.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000192)  
we cannot file cases.

**[00:27:52.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000193)  
Pero we can endorse, recommend sa mga different agencies po.

**[00:27:57.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000194)  
Okay. Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair, distinguished sponsor.

**[00:28:03.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000195)  
Now let me move on.

**[00:28:06.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000196)  
I was just exploring the possibility based on the pronouncements of Congressman Teodoro

**[00:28:13.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000197)  
during the budget deliberation this morning.

**[00:28:16.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000198)  
So let me move on to another topic.

**[00:28:20.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000199)  
Recently, the CHR published...

**[00:28:22.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000200)  
I would like to emphasize that it provides free information, education, and campaign or IEC materials

**[00:28:27.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000201)  
to individuals and organizations to promote human rights,

**[00:28:31.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000202)  
particularly among vulnerable, marginalized, and disadvantaged sectors.

**[00:28:35.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000203)  
May I ask the CHR, does the Commission specifically maintain IEC materials

**[00:28:40.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000204)  
on the protection of women and violence, discrimination, harassment,

**[00:28:45.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000205)  
and other violations of human rights?

**[00:28:47.820] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000206)  
Madam Speaker, yes po.

**[00:28:50.260] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000207)  
Dire-direcho po ang ating...

**[00:28:52.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000208)  
IEC materials information sa ating pong komisyon.

**[00:28:57.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000209)  
Opo. Itong mga materials na ito, where do they exist?

**[00:29:02.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000210)  
Online po ba?

**[00:29:04.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000211)  
O are they distributed in far flung barangays, digital materials po lang ito?

**[00:29:11.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000212)  
Because sa pagkakaalam ko po, parang online na, no?

**[00:29:15.320] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000213)  
So, both physical and online po.

**[00:29:18.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000214)  
Available po yan.

**[00:29:20.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000215)  
So may mga distribution din.

**[00:29:22.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000216)  
Channels tayo.

**[00:29:22.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000217)  
How do we distribute it so that...

**[00:29:24.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000218)  
Yes po. Nagkakaroon po tayong...

**[00:29:26.500] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000219)  
Actually po, meron pong mga visitations sa various organizations,

**[00:29:30.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000220)  
sa ating pong mga barangays, municipality,

**[00:29:33.900] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000221)  
na umiikot po ang ating pong komisyon.

**[00:29:36.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000222)  
Opo. Opo.

**[00:29:38.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000223)  
How much po of your 2027 budget is allocated for the production,

**[00:29:44.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000224)  
printing, and dissemination of these materials?

**[00:29:48.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000225)  
Magkano po?

**[00:29:50.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000226)  
Ang...

**[00:29:51.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000227)  
Nakapaloob po.

**[00:29:52.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000228)  
Opo. Sa 2027 budget nila.

**[00:30:00.000] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000230)  
Madam Speaker, it's P94,643,000 ang aming proposed for 2027.

**[00:30:09.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000231)  
Out of the P94,000,000, magkano ang halaga specifically targeting women?

**[00:30:17.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000232)  
Out of the P94,000,000, ilan po doon ang halagang specifically nakatarget sa production of materials for women po?

**[00:30:27.900] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000233)  
For women?

**[00:30:30.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000234)  
Opo.

**[00:30:32.540] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000235)  
Naka-lump sum po siya, Madam Speaker.

**[00:30:35.940] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000236)  
So wala pong na-specific for women, for children; lump sum po siya para sa lahat po ng sectors.

**[00:30:43.940] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000237)  
Kasi nga po, Madam Speaker, medyo maliit po ang allocation po natin para sa buong Pilipinas po.

**[00:30:52.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000238)  
Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[00:30:55.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000239)  
But I asked a while ago if there were materials specifically for,

**[00:30:59.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000240)  
addressing violence against women, and meron po.

**[00:31:03.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000241)  
So ibig sabihin po, ang nilalabas niyong materials, general na po yun.

**[00:31:07.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000242)  
Walang specific IEC material na para lang sa, that addresses gender violence.

**[00:31:14.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000243)  
Meron po.

**[00:31:14.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000244)  
Meron po.

**[00:31:16.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000245)  
So out of this yun po sana ang gusto kong itanong, kung magkano, and ano na lang po siguro, doon sa allocation na yun,

**[00:31:25.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000246)  
ano po ang target natin na maabot ng mga kababaihan?

**[00:31:29.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000247)  
Half of our population, 50% is women, ano po.

**[00:31:34.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000248)  
So ano po, maliit po ang budget ninyo, paano po natin maaabot o masasaklaw ang karamihan ng ating mga kababaihan?

**[00:31:42.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000249)  
Lalo na po yung mga nasa kanayunan.

**[00:31:46.220] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000250)  
Madam Speaker, ang aming pong GAD budget for 2027 ay 77 million pesos.

**[00:31:56.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000251)  
And doon po yun napupunta?

**[00:31:58.460] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000252)  
Yes po.

**[00:31:59.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000253)  
Okay po.

**[00:31:59.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000254)  
Maraming maraming salamat po.

**[00:32:03.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000255)  
Anyway, I still have a lot of questions but I committed to squeezing everything in.

**[00:32:12.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000256)  
So siguro, pang huli na lamang po, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[00:32:18.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000257)  
nais ko na lamang pong ipahayag na ang kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa kapakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan o 4K

**[00:32:28.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000258)  
ay kaisa ng human rights.

**[00:32:29.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000259)  
Commission on Human Rights na ipagtangkol at isulong ang karapatang pantao sa harap ng malaking hamon na tugunan ang mga problema ng human rights

**[00:32:39.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000260)  
sa ating bansa, nais din nating hikayatin ng CHR na palawakin ang saklaw ng kanilang trabaho, patibayin ang pagganap ng tungkulin

**[00:32:49.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000261)  
at tiyakin na ang bawat pisong ipinagkakaloob ng taong bayan ay tinutumbasan ng pananagutan at kongkretong resulta.

**[00:32:57.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000262)  
Sa ganitong paraan,

**[00:32:59.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000263)  
maipapakita natin na ang pondo ay tunay na giging proteksyon at katarungan para sa mamamayan.

**[00:33:06.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000264)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor. Magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.

**[00:33:12.840] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000265)  
[unclear] Leader.

**[00:33:24.040] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000266)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Antonio L.

**[00:33:29.340] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000267)  
Tinio of ACT Teacher Partylist.

**[00:33:32.840] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000268)  
Representative Antonio Tinio of ACT Teacher Partylist is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[00:33:40.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000269)  
Salamat po, Madam Speaker.

**[00:33:43.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000270)  
Madam Speaker, ang tanong ko po ay kaugnay sa drug war, sa drug war ng nakaraang administrasyon ni dating Pangulong Duterte.

**[00:33:57.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000271)  
Yung extrajudicial killing.

**[00:33:59.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000272)  
At yung pagpaslang ng libu-libong mga kababayan nating Pilipino.

**[00:34:09.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000273)  
Isang malaking tagumpay po para sa naghahangad ng justisya, sa mga naghahangad ng justisya sa ating lipunan,

**[00:34:18.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000274)  
sa mga biktima ng extrajudicial killing sa kanilang mga pamilyang naiwan,

**[00:34:24.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000275)  
ang pagkaka-aresto.

**[00:34:29.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000276)  
At paglilitis kay dating Pangulong Duterte sa International Criminal Court.

**[00:34:38.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000277)  
So mahalagang tagumpay po yun.

**[00:34:41.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000278)  
At alam natin, hindi natatapos ang pagpapanagot kay Pangulong Duterte.

**[00:34:50.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000279)  
Bagaman siya ang, tama lang, siya bilang Pangulo, siya ang pinakamalaking isda.

**[00:34:57.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000280)  
Sa...

**[00:34:59.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000281)  
nag-anap na crimes against humanity.

**[00:35:05.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000282)  
Alam din natin na yung ICC nag-issue na ng warrant laban sa kanyang kanang kamay.

**[00:35:14.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000283)  
Yung dati niyang PNP chief naging senador, ngayon ay nagtatago sa warrant,

**[00:35:20.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000284)  
Sen. Bato de la Rosa, at sinasabi na mayroon pang ibang mga warrant na may issue.

**[00:35:28.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000285)  
Pero alam din natin,

**[00:35:29.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000286)  
na yung accountability para sa mga pagpaslang na iyan ay hindi limitado sa mga nasa pinakataas.

**[00:35:41.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000287)  
Yung chain of command at yung dugo ng extrajudicial killings ay mula sa taas,

**[00:35:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000288)  
dadalo yan sa hanggang sa panggitna, sa antas na panggitna hanggang sa pinakababa.

**[00:35:58.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000289)  
No?

**[00:35:59.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000290)  
Sa mga aktual na mga opisyal at rank and file ng PNP, among others,

**[00:36:06.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000291)  
na aktual na nagpatupad,

**[00:36:08.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000292)  
nung mga inutos sa taas,

**[00:36:10.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000293)  
yung aktual na mga pumatay.

**[00:36:12.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000294)  
So kaya po napakahalaga na sa loob ng ating bansa at sa pangunguna ng ating mga institusyon

**[00:36:25.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000295)  
ay magpatuloy ang trabaho na...

**[00:36:29.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000296)  
ng pag-iimbestiga at pagpapanagot sa lahat ng naging sangkot sa extrajudicial killings

**[00:36:37.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000297)  
sa ngalan ng peking drug war na ito.

**[00:36:40.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000298)  
Okay.

**[00:36:40.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000299)  
Kaugnay nun ng ang isa sa mga institusyon na inaasahan natin na magsagawa at magtuloy

**[00:36:50.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000300)  
sa napakahalagang gawaing ito ay ang Commission on Human Rights.

**[00:36:58.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000301)  
No? At...

**[00:36:59.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000302)  
Last year ay nagpahayag ang Commission on Human Rights na nagbukas sila ng imbestigasyon,

**[00:37:12.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000303)  
review and investigation of several hundred mga cases of drug war killings.

**[00:37:23.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000304)  
Pwede po bang for the record ay mabanggit lang

**[00:37:27.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000305)  
ilan po yung mga...

**[00:37:29.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000308)  
kabuo ang kaso na sinimulang investigahan muli ng Commission on Human Rights?

**[00:37:40.740] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000309)  
Madam Speaker, in particular, the Commission has identified 493 cases for reinvestigation in 2024

**[00:37:50.400] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000310)  
and the task force has directed of 289 cases reinvestigated in 2025.

**[00:37:58.480] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000311)  
Of the...

**[00:37:59.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000312)  
Of these 289 reinvestigated cases, 140 cases are currently for disposition by the task force.

**[00:38:08.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000313)  
The task force has also successfully reviewed and evaluated these cases identified for reinvestigation

**[00:38:15.420] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000314)  
and has begun drafting the corresponding resolution for disposition.

**[00:38:20.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000315)  
So, this process remains ongoing with the Commission committed to completing the disposition

**[00:38:29.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000316)  
of these cases by the end of this year.

**[00:38:32.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000317)  
Ayun.

**[00:38:32.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000318)  
So, yun lang po ang gusto natin ay makuha yung update.

**[00:38:37.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000319)  
So, for 2024, nabanggit niyo po ilang kaso?

**[00:38:42.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000320)  
493 cases.

**[00:38:44.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000321)  
493 cases.

**[00:38:45.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000322)  
Tapos for 20...

**[00:38:48.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000323)  
25?

**[00:38:49.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000324)  
25.

**[00:38:50.480] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000325)  
289 cases.

**[00:38:52.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000326)  
289 cases.

**[00:38:53.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000327)  
At sa 289 cases na yan, 140 po.

**[00:38:58.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000328)  
Tama po ba?

**[00:38:59.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000329)  
120 cases was transmitted and had undergone preliminary evaluation by the EGK task force.

**[00:39:07.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000330)  
Ah, 120 cases.

**[00:39:10.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000331)  
And then, yung for resolution na po, pending resolution ay ilan po?

**[00:39:17.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000332)  
Ito na po yun.

**[00:39:19.680] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000333)  
Ito na po yun.

**[00:39:20.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000334)  
Okay.

**[00:39:22.020] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000335)  
Yung 120 cases.

**[00:39:24.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000336)  
120 po?

**[00:39:25.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000337)  
120?

**[00:39:26.680] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000338)  
Yes po.

**[00:39:27.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000339)  
Okay.

**[00:39:29.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000340)  
So, in a communication to this representation, the chair of CHR, Richard Palpalatok, mentioned

**[00:39:38.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000341)  
that the CHR would provide an official report on the 140 po ang sabi rito, 140 drug war-related

**[00:39:50.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000342)  
cases for disposition slash resolution.

**[00:39:53.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000343)  
So, which figure?

**[00:39:57.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000344)  
Which figure should we consider as official?

**[00:40:03.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000345)  
120 or 140?

**[00:40:05.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000346)  
As of today po, 140 cases.

**[00:40:08.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000347)  
140 po.

**[00:40:10.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000348)  
40, hindi 20.

**[00:40:14.920] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000349)  
140 cases po.

**[00:40:16.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000350)  
Ayun.

**[00:40:17.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000351)  
Okay.

**[00:40:17.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000352)  
So, it is indeed 140 cases.

**[00:40:20.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000353)  
So, yun lang po, Madam Speaker.

**[00:40:24.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000354)  
Ang gusto lang po nating marinig ay...

**[00:40:27.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000355)  
na at least by the end of the year, of the over 600 cases mentioned, merong for disposition

**[00:40:40.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000356)  
na 140 by the end of the year.

**[00:40:43.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000357)  
Okay.

**[00:40:45.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000358)  
We will expect that update.

**[00:40:47.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000359)  
Pero, ano po yung mangyayari dun sa natitira?

**[00:40:50.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000360)  
Yung mga 2024 cases at saka yung iba pang 2025?

**[00:40:56.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000361)  
Ano po?

**[00:40:57.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000362)  
Ano po ang mangyayari sa mga iyon?

**[00:40:58.220] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000363)  
Dire-direcho pa rin po yung investigation.

**[00:41:00.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000364)  
Dire-direcho pa rin po yung investigation.

**[00:41:02.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000365)  
So, makakaasa po tayo na bukod dito sa 140 na target na ma-resolve at magbibigay ng

**[00:41:14.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000366)  
ulat ang CHR kaugnay nito ay tuloy-tuloy pa rin po yung investigation dun sa remaining

**[00:41:22.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000367)  
cases na nabanggit nyo.

**[00:41:24.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000368)  
Tama po ba?

**[00:41:26.020] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000369)  
Tama po kayo.

**[00:41:27.020] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000370)  
Madam Speaker.

**[00:41:29.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000371)  
Okay.

**[00:41:30.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000372)  
So, again, we thank the sponsor for putting on record this commitment of the CHR.

**[00:41:39.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000373)  
Now, we will expect, of course, through the Committee on Appropriations, we will expect

**[00:41:45.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000374)  
the report on the disposition of the 140 cases.

**[00:41:49.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000375)  
Katulad po ng sinabi natin, well, CHR po ang isa sa mga natatanging

**[00:41:57.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000376)  
institusyon sa ating lipunan na nagtutuloy

**[00:42:00.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000377)  
pa rin ng imbestigasyon sa extrajudicial killings during the Duterte, under the Duterte

**[00:42:12.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000378)  
Administration in the name of the War on Drugs.

**[00:42:16.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000379)  
Napakahalaga po na ituloy ang laban na ito para sa justisya.

**[00:42:23.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000380)  
So, muli, maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[00:42:25.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000381)  
Madaming salamat po sa sponsor.

**[00:42:27.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000382)  
At pagbati po sa CHR.

**[00:42:29.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-000383)  
Thank you.

**[00:42:31.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000384)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:42:35.700] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000385)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Kaka Bag-ao of the Lone District of Dinagat

**[00:42:43.400] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000386)  
Island to interpolate on the proposed budget.

**[00:42:47.560] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000387)  
Representative from the Lone District of Dinagat Island, Representative Kaka Bag-ao is now recognized

**[00:42:52.580] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000388)  
for her interpolation.

**[00:42:54.180] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000389)  
Thank you very much.

**[00:42:56.360] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000390)  
Madam Speaker.

**[00:42:57.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000391)  
Madam Speaker and Madam Sponsor, may ikli lang po para umabotay sa DOLE.

**[00:43:06.180] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000392)  
Last year po, sa budget hearing last year, parang halos kami lahat sa minority ang haba ng

**[00:43:14.960] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000393)  
debate namin para paglaban yung budget ng CHR.

**[00:43:20.700] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000394)  
Kasama po ako doon.

**[00:43:23.760] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000395)  
Kailang nalulungkot ako sa ilan sa mga namin.

**[00:43:27.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000396)  
Ang nababalitaan ko, babahagyan ko lang po kayo ng ilan at sana po ay masagot nyo ito

**[00:43:33.260] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000397)  
kasi ang pinagagalingan ko din ay hindi lang regular na text message, kundi conversations

**[00:43:39.840] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000398)  
mula sa human rights organizations, sa inyong mga constituencies, sa human rights work at medyo may

**[00:43:52.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000399)  
pagka-dismaya po sa performance.

**[00:43:57.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000400)  
Performance ng CHR.

**[00:44:00.360] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000401)  
Nalo na na pinakamahalagang batas ito para sa, ahensya ito para sa ating lahat.

**[00:44:09.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000402)  
Umpisahan ko na lang po.

**[00:44:12.100] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000403)  
So, yung term ng, term ng en banc ay seven years at mula nang mabuo ito noong 1987

**[00:44:23.140] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000404)  
ay nagkaroon na ng anim na en banc groups.

**[00:44:26.220] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000405)  
Lahat po kayo.

**[00:44:27.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000406)  
Mula kay CHR at sa buong en banc ay appointed for a seven-year term without reappointment

**[00:44:33.080] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000407)  
until 2029.

**[00:44:35.680] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000408)  
In 2027, year five of seven na po ng inyong termino bilang en banc.

**[00:44:42.620] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000409)  
Dalawang taon na lang, tapos na yung termino.

**[00:44:45.400] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000410)  
Kaya ang tanong ko po, Madam Sponsor, ay Madam Chair, ay Madam Speaker, ay by the end

**[00:44:52.300] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000411)  
of their term in 2029, ano talaga ang target?

**[00:44:57.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000412)  
Ang target na may iwan ng en banc.

**[00:45:00.000] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000413)  
Specifically po, marami po ang tanong at tingin ko sana po masagot natin ito. Marami po ang tanong mula po sa ibang human rights organizations na walang strategic plan.

**[00:45:18.960] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000414)  
Ang CHR from 2022 to 2025 na pinag-uusapan, ina-update, kahit nga po yung pinaka-strategic plan ay hindi makita ng mga tumutulong at kasama ninyo nagpapatupad ng mga CHR programs.

**[00:45:37.160] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000415)  
So, paano po daw nila manalaman kung yung 2027 budget ay nakahanay sa plano na ito?

**[00:45:46.380] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000416)  
Kung wala namang malinaw na presentation ng milestones, targets, at dalawang taon na lang ay matatapos na ang inyong termino tungkol sa strategic plan ng CHR.

**[00:46:00.620] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000417)  
Pwede ho ba nyo akong bigyan ng kaliwanagan tungkol sa tanong na ito?

**[00:46:05.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000418)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[00:46:08.820] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000419)  
The Sixth Commission conducted its strategic planning in 2023 and issued its strategic plan.

**[00:46:16.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000420)  
Last November 29, 2023.

**[00:46:19.660] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000421)  
Last year po, the Sixth Commission held its midterm assessment and its strategic planning with the latest MTA and STRAT plan has already been approved and is due for cascading.

**[00:46:33.940] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000422)  
2027 thrusts and priorities: Human Rights Protection Program, continuing partnership and strengthening collaboration with key government agencies and other stakeholders.

**[00:46:46.440] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000424)  
Draft protocols for the conduct of investigation on journalist safety

**[00:46:50.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000425)  
and media freedom.

**[00:46:52.640] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000426)  
Implementation of the expanded national monitoring mechanism and deployment of the Protection sa Karapatang Pantao program

**[00:46:59.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000427)  
and its subprograms,

**[00:47:03.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000428)  
Bantay Karapatang Pantao

**[00:47:04.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000429)  
and Tugon Karapatang Pantao.

**[00:47:13.960] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000430)  
Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[00:47:19.380] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000431)  
Pero kung ganyan lang din naman ang laman ng inyong strategic plan,

**[00:47:25.080] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000432)  
baka kailangan po talaga nating balikan ito paunawa lahat.

**[00:47:29.040] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000433)  
Kasi marami po akong kinonsulta din na human rights organization,

**[00:47:33.780] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000434)  
bakit may gano'ng assessment.

**[00:47:36.800] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000435)  
Siguro maaring may nakasulat sa papel, pero ibigyan ko lang din po kayo na example.

**[00:47:41.740] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000436)  
Halimbawa, dadagdagan ko lang po yung example ni Madam Sponsor

**[00:47:49.140] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000437)  
dun sa mga inaasahan ng mga human rights program.

**[00:47:53.520] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000438)  
Halimbawa po inaasahan natin kagaya ng pag-review ng ating status sa ICC,

**[00:48:01.900] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000439)  
yung status quo.

**[00:48:03.780] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000440)  
Ito po yung mga example.

**[00:48:08.560] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000441)  
Isang kongkretong example ka rin po,

**[00:48:10.640] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000442)  
mahigit sampung specialist na ang nakaata sa CHR katulad na anti-torture law

**[00:48:15.440] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000443)  
and anti-forced disappearances law.

**[00:48:18.140] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000444)  
Pero maliban sa dalawang bilyon para sa Magna Carta of Women,

**[00:48:23.060] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000445)  
halos lahat ng ito ay walang matinong line item

**[00:48:27.680] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000446)  
at walang matinong target at work plan mula sa CHR.

**[00:48:33.780] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000447)  
Isa din kongkreto yung paghilom o yung healing intervention

**[00:48:38.220] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000448)  
leading to optimum management program for victims of torture-enforced disappearances.

**[00:48:44.820] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000449)  
Isang batas na ang naging mayakda pa ay si former Representative Edsel Agman

**[00:48:52.660] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000450)  
at Republic Act 10353 or the Anti-Enforced and Involuntary Disappearance Act of 2012.

**[00:49:02.540] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000451)  
Hindi naman.

**[00:49:03.760] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000453)  
Hindi naman po natin.

**[00:49:04.440] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000454)  
Gusto ko sabihin, kahit po sabihin natin marami tayong na lahat ng issue ay human rights issue,

**[00:49:11.960] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000455)  
alam natin na may pangangailangan na mag-streamline, mag-focus, tingnan talaga.

**[00:49:17.540] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000456)  
At kung babalikan ko ang definition sa pagkakaintindi ko kaano po ang mandate

**[00:49:22.840] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000457)  
ng isang human rights institution ay sana ay mag-focus para sa mga civil and political rights issue resolution.

**[00:49:31.480] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000458)  
So,

**[00:49:32.080] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000459)  
ang pwede ko siguro po para hindi humaba ang debate tungkol dun sa meron, wala,

**[00:49:41.480] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000460)  
ini-inform ang public, pinapatupad, kulang, hindi nalalagay yung inaasahan,

**[00:49:47.100] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000461)  
pwede po ba ako humingi ng kopya,

**[00:49:49.480] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000462)  
Mr. and Madam Sponsor ng work plan for 2027 ng CHR

**[00:49:57.720] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000463)  
at yung sinasabi ninyong meron,

**[00:50:00.680] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000464)  
na meron kayong,

**[00:50:02.080] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000465)  
na-formulate na strategic plan bula sa Commission on Human Rights.

**[00:50:11.480] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000466)  
Hindi ko na rin po po mababanggitin ang mga civil society organizations na nagpahatid ng liham na ito

**[00:50:17.180] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000467)  
para sabihin sa inyo na sana po, no,

**[00:50:20.280] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000468)  
gaya ko po na aktibong nanginiwalang dapat laging mapondohan ang CHR

**[00:50:26.780] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000469)  
at ayokong laging nakabimbin kayo sa isang libong budget,

**[00:50:32.080] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000470)  
kapiranggot na budget,

**[00:50:33.840] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000471)  
masakit may pakinggan yun.

**[00:50:35.680] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000472)  
Pero kung ang makikinig ko pong kwento bago ko po ako tatayo dito ay,

**[00:50:40.820] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000473)  
mula dun sa mga nag-advocate din ng human rights,

**[00:50:43.800] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000474)  
ay parang hindi sila masyadong tutuwa sa ugnayan.

**[00:50:52.820] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000475)  
At pagbibigay natin ang informasyon,

**[00:50:56.740] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000476)  
hihiling na po ako at mag-commit po sana kayo agad sa akin ngayon,

**[00:51:00.600] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000477)  
pwede ko ho bang mahingi yung 2022 to 2029 strategic plan?

**[00:51:05.780] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000478)  
Pwede ko ho bang mahingi yung 2027 budget na nakahanay ang mga planong ito?

**[00:51:12.000] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000479)  
Lalo na ang commitment na magbigay ng focus sa mga human rights program

**[00:51:17.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000480)  
kagaya na anti-enforced disappearances act implementation.

**[00:51:23.380] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000481)  
At sana po yung mga hinihingi ng ibang organizations ay matugunan po natin,

**[00:51:29.760] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000482)  
hindi lang po.

**[00:51:30.600] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000483)  
Sa press release at Facebook conversations,

**[00:51:36.920] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000484)  
yun po, kung pwede ko bang mahingi ang ganong commitment na dalawa po,

**[00:51:42.240] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000485)  
isang detalyado para sa 2027 at isang work plan nyo for [unclear]

**[00:51:47.940] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000486)  
para sigurado kung hindi ako maghihintay ng press release na sagot sa tanong ko.

**[00:51:53.060] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000487)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[00:51:54.700] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000488)  
We will provide the necessary documents po sa ating kasamahan.

**[00:52:00.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000489)  
Regards po sa lahat po ng data na hinihingi po ninyo.

**[00:52:04.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000490)  
And also po sa mga binanggit nyo po na unfunded laws,

**[00:52:08.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000491)  
wala po talagang kaukalang budget po ito.

**[00:52:11.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000492)  
Pero ganun pa man, ay ginagawa po ng komisyon ang kanilang responsibilidad

**[00:52:16.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000493)  
sa pamamagitan po ng pagbibigay nga po muna ng mga position papers.

**[00:52:19.980] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000494)  
Actually po, marami pong mga nakasulat na mga nagawang mga programs and projects ang komisyon.

**[00:52:27.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000495)  
Pwede rin po namin itong ibigay si inyo.

**[00:52:30.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000496)  
Magkasamahan para meron din po kayong ma-report sa inyo pong mga civil society group.

**[00:52:36.860] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000497)  
Pero matanong ko lang,

**[00:52:38.480] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000498)  
humingi ba kayo ng pondo para mapondohan ang unfunded mandates na ito?

**[00:52:43.480] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000499)  
Kagaya ng enforced disappearances, anti-enforced disappearances law, anti-torture law?

**[00:52:53.240] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000500)  
Humingi po ba kayo?

**[00:52:54.820] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000501)  
Madam Chair, yes po.

**[00:52:55.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000502)  
Actually po, three consecutive years na po.

**[00:52:59.260] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000503)  
Since po nung 6 Committees.

**[00:53:00.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000504)  
Commission conducted po, nag-request na po ang komisyon.

**[00:53:06.840] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000505)  
Taon-taon po para po sa ating unfunded laws.

**[00:53:11.380] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000506)  
Specifically po sa anti-torture law and anti-enforced disappearances?

**[00:53:17.540] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000507)  
Yes po, Madam Speaker.

**[00:53:19.420] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000508)  
Siguro po kailangan natin, magkano pong hinihingi nyo?

**[00:53:22.020] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000509)  
At meron po ba kayong resibo doon sa paghingi ng pondong nyo?

**[00:53:25.980] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000510)  
From last...

**[00:53:28.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000511)  
Actually po, yan po.

**[00:53:29.580] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000512)  
I-present po namin doon sa budget presentation po natin during ating committee meeting from previous years po.

**[00:53:39.560] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000513)  
Siguro po kasi parang nagpapasapakasahan din ang maraming ahensya para sabihin na

**[00:53:45.980] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000514)  
sino ang ahensya na dapat magkaroon ng mandato para sa paghingi ng pondo para sa implementasyon ng mga batas na ito.

**[00:53:54.960] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000515)  
Pero dalalam natin na dapat ito talaga ay malagak sa CHP.

**[00:53:59.580] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000516)  
At sa CHR, dapat ay naging malinaw kung saan dadalhin din ang pondong.

**[00:54:06.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000517)  
Madam Speaker, bigyan ko lang po kayo ng ilang datos para po sa mga nire-request po natin sa unfunded laws.

**[00:54:14.260] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000518)  
For example po sa ating special laws, yung pong RA-9851, International Humanitarian Law of 2009.

**[00:54:23.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000519)  
So nire-request po namin ito ng 15 million.

**[00:54:27.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000520)  
Yung pong ating RA 9262,

**[00:54:29.580] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000521)  
Anti-Violence Against Women and Their Children Act of 2004, 6 million.

**[00:54:36.720] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000522)  
RA-11036, Mental Health Act, 11 million.

**[00:54:42.840] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000523)  
RA-11188, Special Protection of Children in Situation of Armed Conflict Act, 350,000.

**[00:54:51.420] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000524)  
Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020, 14 million.

**[00:54:56.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000525)  
Anti-Torture Act of 2009, 4 million.

**[00:54:59.580] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000526)  
Anti-Inforced Disappearance Law of 2012, 6 million.

**[00:55:05.360] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000527)  
RA-Magna Carta of Women, 6 million.

**[00:55:08.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000528)  
So ito po ay 3 years na po hanggang ngayon po ay hindi po nabibigyan ng budget.

**[00:55:16.340] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000529)  
Kaya po siguro maganda rin makita sa inyong milestone, identification sa inyong 10-year program.

**[00:55:26.320] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000530)  
Saan po natin, paano po natin sasabihin na marami?

**[00:55:29.440] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000531)  
Paano po tayong nagawa?

**[00:55:31.480] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000532)  
Siguro din po, hindi naman po din tayo hihintulang sa pagkasabing dahil hindi siya napupondohan,

**[00:55:39.160] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000533)  
ay wala na rin tayong gagawin about it.

**[00:55:41.580] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000534)  
So, baka lang po, Madam Sponsor, baka humingi po.

**[00:55:47.340] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000535)  
Kasi ang marami po sa tanong na ito, ang pinakamahalagang mga tanong na ito,

**[00:55:51.080] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000536)  
ay nagagaling din po sa mga kasamahan natin sa civil society organizations na nagtataka.

**[00:55:59.440] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000537)  
At nagtatanong kung saan pumupunta yung accomplishments ng commission sa pag-realize ng targets niya para sa mga pagtapos ng kanilang termino bilang member ng NBank.

**[00:56:16.980] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000538)  
So, baka po pwede din ako magtanong kailan ko po makikita yung dokumentong yun para po malaman natin at maibalik din natin sa mga samahan na ito na,

**[00:56:29.440] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000539)  
ito po ang pwede natin i-review at tingnan para pakita natin yung supportang maaari natin ibigay sa CHR.

**[00:56:38.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000540)  
Madam Speaker, we will provide po necessary documents. Magsasubmit po kami sa inyo.

**[00:56:45.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000541)  
Sabi po ng komisyon, sabi po ng ating chairman Richard Pagpalatok, kahit hanggang bukas daw po ay magproprovide daw po kami ng data sa inyo.

**[00:56:55.020] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000542)  
Kahit bukas po,

**[00:56:56.900] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000542-split-2)  
hindi po kahit bukas.

**[00:56:59.440] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000543)  
Bukas po.

**[00:57:00.220] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000544)  
Bukas po.

**[00:57:01.800] Rep. Arlene "Kaka" J. Bag-ao** (asr-000545)  
Abagahan ko yun na Madam Sponsor. Maraming po salamat. Yun lang po sa ngayon ang gusto kong maipahatid. Thank you so much Madam Speaker at sa lahat po na bubuo ng komisyon.

**[00:57:16.740] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000546)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:57:18.320] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000547)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List to interpellate on the proposed budget.

**[00:57:30.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000548)  
Representative Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

**[00:57:37.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000549)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

**[00:57:40.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000550)  
Tungkol sa nailabas na ulat ng Commission on Human Rights nitong April 7, tungkol sa panawagan ng dagliang aksyon para tugunan ang mga kondisyon at mga gaps para sa child protection sa ilang bahay pag-asa,

**[00:57:58.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000551)  
sa buong bansa. Ito po yung ating mga facilities na magtitiyak sana na may rehabilitative, may digtas na espasyo para sa mga CICL na matugunan yung pangangailangan para ho sila ay makabalik muli sa ating society, makapagpatuloy ng pag-aaral at matiyak ang karapatan ng mga bata.

**[00:58:26.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000552)  
Ang ilan sa mga na-document na seryosong issues ng CHR ay tungkol sa mga gaps sa implementation ng Juvenile Justice and Welfare Act.

**[00:58:38.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000553)  
Nandito rin po ang violence during a child's apprehension, ill-treatment by facility personnel, and facilities that are designed more like jails than safe spaces for children.

**[00:58:50.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000554)  
Madam Speaker, nakikita rin po ang ganitong sitwasyon sa nailabas na report.

**[00:58:56.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000555)  
ng Children's Legal Rights and Development Center tungkol naman sa mga torture cases at abuso sa mga bata, sa mga bahay pag-asa, ganon din po sa iba't ibang mga facilities sa buong bansa.

**[00:59:10.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000556)  
Ang tanong po natin para sa Commission on Human Rights, mula po ma-issue ninyo ang ulat na ito, naglabas din po kayo ng detalyado na situation report, meron na po bang tugon ang mga relevant agencies kung paano matitiyak na may aksyon?

**[00:59:26.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000557)  
sa mga kasong ito.

**[00:59:35.740] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000558)  
Madam Speaker, meron po tayong datos sa katanungan po ni...

**[00:59:42.920] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000559)  
Last Tuesday po, we presented sa isang forum lahat po ng mga government agencies.

**[00:59:50.640] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000560)  
Ito pong inyong mga tinanong ngayon, Kong Ilago.

**[00:59:56.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000561)  
We presented po ito.

**[01:00:00.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000562)  
Madam Speaker, bukod sa ating pinakahuli na situation report, meron din tayong updated na data at information tungkol sa kalagayan ng ating bahay pag-asa facilities.

**[01:00:15.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000563)  
Meron na ba tayong coordination? Present din po ba sa inyong ginanap na forum, halimbawa ang DSWD, para investigahan ang ganitong mga kaso?

**[01:00:24.480] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000564)  
Madam Speaker, yes po. Bukod po sa DSWD, nandoon din po ang PNP, ang DILG at AFP po.

**[01:00:38.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000564-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, meron ding mahalagang center ang CHR tungkol sa pagtataguyod ng karapatan ng mga bata, ang Child Rights Center.

**[01:00:46.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000565)  
Sa ngayon po ba, magkano po ang nakalaan na pondo para sa Child Rights Center?

**[01:00:51.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000566)  
Madam Speaker, muli at tulad po ng ating paninindigan noong budget briefing, ang mga policy center na ito ay susi para matiyak natin na ang ating mga aksyon, mga desisyon, mga posisyon sa iba't ibang issue,

**[01:01:07.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000567)  
lalong-lalo na sa paggamit ng pondo ng ating bayan, ay nagagabayan ng datos.

**[01:01:13.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000568)  
At ang sinasabi ngayon, Madam Speaker, nangangailangan na tugunan natin agad itong nakakaalalaan.

**[01:01:21.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000569)  
Mga kaso ng torture at child protection gaps sa ating bahay pag-asa facilities.

**[01:02:08.400] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000572)  
Naka-lump sum po siya sa ating

**[01:02:10.340] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000573)  
policy program para po sa formulation and advocacy of human rights

**[01:02:15.500] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000574)  
policies,

**[01:02:16.280] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000575)  
Plans and Programs and Monitoring Implementation of International Human Rights, nagkakahalaga po siya ng 79 million pesos.

**[01:02:26.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000576)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

**[01:02:28.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000577)  
Gayun din po sinusuportahan natin.

**[01:02:31.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000578)  
Alam ko ho na malayo pa iyan doon sa mga kinakailangan.

**[01:02:36.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000579)  
Hindi lang po hinihiling pero pinapanawagan ng ating mga policy centers para sa sapat na pondo para mapagpatuloy ang kanilang mahalagang trabaho.

**[01:02:44.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000580)  
Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, tungkol sa Human Rights Violations Victim Memorial Commission.

**[01:02:51.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000581)  
Base po sa General Appropriations Bill na ating tinatalakay ngayon,

**[01:02:56.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000582)  
bumaba ang budget ng Human Rights Violations Victim Memorial Commission mula sa 62,504,000, naging 61,174,000 na lamang.

**[01:03:07.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000583)  
Ano po ang dahilan ng pagbaba nito?

**[01:03:10.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000584)  
At sa ngayon po, maari ba tayong bigyan ng update?

**[01:03:14.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000585)  
Kung...

**[01:03:14.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000586)  
Ano na ang status ng pagtatayo o yung pagtatayo ng mga dapat matapos ng komisyon na ito?

**[01:03:23.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000587)  
Madam Speaker, kasi po ang ating capital outlay po ngayon ay zero ang allocation.

**[01:03:34.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000588)  
Wala pong nakalagay ngayon.

**[01:03:36.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000589)  
So compared po last year, kahit po paano, meron po tayong capital outlay.

**[01:03:41.280] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000590)  
Ngayon pong 2020, for 2027 po,

**[01:03:44.480] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000591)  
zero allocation po tayo.

**[01:03:48.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000592)  
Madam Speaker, hingin na rin po natin muli yung detalye tungkol dito at maisumite sa representasyon na ito mula sa kababaihan.

**[01:03:57.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000593)  
Ngayon naman po tungkol sa naiulat na nawawala na trust fund ng mga PDL sa CIW, sa Correctional Institute for Women.

**[01:04:09.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000594)  
At dito po, naiulat din sa kapulungan na ito na may aabot sa 60%.

**[01:04:14.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000595)  
At ang tindig dito ng CHR ay dapat magkaroon ng independent probe sa nawawalang CIW-PDL trust fund.

**[01:04:26.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000596)  
Maari ba tayong bigyan ng update tungkol sa nasabing independent investigation?

**[01:04:33.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000597)  
At paano matitiyak din ang Kongreso na magagamit nito ang kanyang kapangyarihan sa oversight para matiyak na magagawa ng CHR ang kanyang trabaho?

**[01:04:44.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000598)  
Na kung meron mang dapat silipin, dapat gawin o mabago para mapagtibay ang palisiya para magawa ang independent probe, ay magawa natin ito.

**[01:04:57.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000599)  
Madam Speaker, until now ongoing po ang investigation.

**[01:05:02.640] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000600)  
PDLs raise allegations regarding irregularities in the handling, accounting, and release of funds under the CIW-PDL trust fund,

**[01:05:12.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000601)  
including an alleged discrepancy.

**[01:05:14.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000602)  
Madam Speaker, sinusuportahan ng representasyon na ito ng kababaihan ang paglulunsad ng independent probe ng Commission on Human Rights sa nasabing issue.

**[01:05:39.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000603)  
Hindi biro ang abot sa 6 million pesos na nawawala.

**[01:05:43.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000604)  
Dapat may malinaw na mapanagot tungkol dito.

**[01:05:48.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000605)  
Habang tinitiyak din natin na yung capacity ng CHR na magsagawa ng ganitong mga independent probe, magawa nila ng nasa oras.

**[01:05:59.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000606)  
Hindi lang po ito tungkol sa pananagutan, sa accountability, Madam Speaker.

**[01:06:05.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000607)  
Sa tingin po natin, dapat meron ding malinaw na direksyon paano ba mababalik yung mga nawawalang mga pondo na yan.

**[01:06:12.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000608)  
At paano natin matitiyak na hindi na mauulit ito muli sa ating mga facilities.

**[01:06:21.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000609)  
Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, nais ko rin pong magtanong isang bagay na ibahagi ko rin kanina sa harap ng issue.

**[01:06:30.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000610)  
Tungkol po ito sa issue ng mga kababayan natin na magpasa hanggang ngayon,

**[01:06:36.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000611)  
siyempre taon, matapos ang Marawi siege, ay nasa temporary shelter pa rin.

**[01:06:42.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000612)  
Nagkaroon po ba ang pag-aaral ang CHR? Nagkaroon po ba kayo ng pagbisita?

**[01:06:48.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000613)  
Nagkaroon na po ba ng mga pinakahuling pag-uulat na tungkol sa sitwasyon ng ating mga internally displaced persons?

**[01:06:58.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000614)  
At paano po natin napapaabot sa iba't ibang mga agencies ang kanilang mga pangangailangan para sa makataong kondisyon?

**[01:07:07.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000615)  
At matiyak yung kanilang karapatan na mabuhay ng may pantay na karapatan.

**[01:07:12.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000616)  
May dignidad.

**[01:07:14.520] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000617)  
Madam Speaker, with regards po sa ating Marawi siege, I am with you, Kong Sara.

**[01:07:21.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000618)  
So, CHR granted financial assistance to 2,372 claimants, amounting to 7.1 million pesos.

**[01:07:30.020] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000619)  
We have also issued a human rights advisory with continuous monitoring of compliance with laws and standards described in the advisory.

**[01:07:40.400] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000620)  
Meron din po tayong issuance of press statement

**[01:07:42.840] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000621)  
and social media cards.

**[01:07:44.880] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000622)  
And sa totoo lang po, ngayon pong November, sabi po ng komisyon, sila po ay pupunta uli sa Marawi City.

**[01:07:53.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000623)  
Madam Speaker, sa pagpunta ng komisyon sa darating na Nobyembre dito sa Marawi, ano po ang particular na layunin ng pagbisita na ito?

**[01:08:02.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000624)  
Lalong-lalo na, meron hong bagong executive order tungkol sa pagtatatag ng Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation.

**[01:08:12.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000625)  
And development na is po natin, kumbaga hindi lang po ito ginawa para lang masabi na meron tayong ganitong office.

**[01:08:20.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000626)  
Pero matiyak na ang office na ito na naitatag ay tutugon talaga sa agad na mga pangangailangan ng ating mga kababayan na ID,

**[01:08:30.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000627)  
na hanggang ngayon ay nakakaranas pa rin ng nakakulangan sa adequate housing sa kanilang lugar.

**[01:08:41.000] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000628)  
Madam Speaker.

**[01:08:42.680] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000632)  
Ang pagpunta po doon ng komisyon ay magkakaroon po tayo ng diagolo para po sa ating mga residente ng Marawi City.

**[01:08:51.520] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000633)  
At syempre po, sa D-SUD po, nagpadala na rin po tayo ng letter para po i-raise yung operationalized MCB provided

**[01:09:02.560] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000634)  
at nagbigay po tayo ng recommendation and technical assistance para sa kanilang sekretariat.

**[01:09:09.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000635)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[01:09:11.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000636)  
Sa kasalukuyan din po.

**[01:09:12.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000637)  
At nagpaabot po noon ng panawagan din ang mga residente sa Marawi sa pangunguna ng Marawi Advocacy Accompaniment

**[01:09:24.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000638)  
na magkaroon ng dialogo at konsultasyon na ispo sana namin natawagan din ang Center for Social Justice and Humanitarian Protection

**[01:09:33.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000639)  
para doon sa mga issues, concerns, at needs po nila ay maisama naman doon sa magiging plano

**[01:09:41.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000640)  
ng Marawi Diablitation and Development.

**[01:09:46.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000641)  
Kumbaga, matiyak po natin na sa lahat ng mga magiging plano, kasama mismo yung tao.

**[01:09:52.740] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000642)  
Madam Speaker, sa November 17 po, pupunta po ang komisyon sa Marawi at magkakaroon po tayo ng Multi-Stakeholder Forum on Housing,

**[01:10:02.240] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000643)  
Land Property Rights, at kasama din po rito ang Marawi Board.

**[01:10:07.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000644)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[01:10:09.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000645)  
At harap din sa kapulungan na ito ang...

**[01:10:11.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000646)  
Marawi Victims Compensation Board.

**[01:10:14.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000647)  
At marami din pong mga katanungan ng ating mga kababayan kung paano ba gagamitin at ginagamit ang pondo ng bayan

**[01:10:23.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000648)  
dahil ngayong 2027, sa susunod na taon, zero ang pondo nila para sa susunod na taon.

**[01:10:30.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000649)  
Ngayon, malinaw na marami pa rin mga nangangailangan, kaya dapat po natin itulak kasabay ng pagtataas ng pondo ng CHR,

**[01:10:39.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000650)  
yung pondo rin para sa...

**[01:10:41.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000651)  
mga bodies na tumutugon sa pangailangan ng mga affected pa rin na stakeholders sa Marawi.

**[01:10:49.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000652)  
Ngayon naman bilang panghuli, Madam Speaker, nais ko lang pong mapaalalahanan ang ating CHR tungkol sa ating request.

**[01:11:00.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000653)  
Kung meron na kayong assessment sa role ng CHR sa pagtitiyak ng right to adequate housing at right against unjust demolition,

**[01:11:10.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000654)  
kung meron na po kayong ulat tungkol dyan, dahil kayo po ay kasama sa dapat sa mga panahon na magkakaroon ng mga demolisyon

**[01:11:19.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000655)  
at maobserba na naoobserba natin yung mga protocols, yung mga policies na nagtataguyod sa karapatang pantao, number one po yan.

**[01:11:31.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000656)  
At number two, kung sa tingin po ba ninyo ay kailangan pa natin ang mas pangil at mas malakas po,

**[01:11:40.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000657)  
yung mga kapangyarihan para matiyak talaga na mauuna ang karapatang pantao sa pagtataguyod ng karapatan sa sapat at disente na panirahan.

**[01:11:52.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000658)  
Madam Speaker, may commission and bank na po tayo, may commission and bank resolution na po tayong naibigay dito,

**[01:12:00.460] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000659)  
at ang commission po ay kasama pa rin po sa pre-demolition board.

**[01:12:05.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000660)  
At yan po ang hihintayin ng ating representasyon.

**[01:12:10.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000661)  
Magiging resulta ng pagpupulong na yan at kung may kopya na kayo ng resolution.

**[01:12:16.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000662)  
At ang hiningi nga po natin yung evaluation ng gaps eh, kung meron.

**[01:12:23.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000663)  
Kasi meron din sa ating kongreso, Madam Speaker, matagal nang sinusulong ng CHR yung pagpapalakas sa ating National Human Rights Institution.

**[01:12:33.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000664)  
Ilang kongreso na rin niyang sinusulong dito sa House of Representatives.

**[01:12:38.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000665)  
Pero ang nangyayari, lagi nakakalimutan.

**[01:12:40.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000666)  
May nakapasa dito pero nabibinbinbin sa Senado o kaya po talagang hindi nakakaabot ang pagpasa.

**[01:12:46.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000667)  
Kaya ang hamon sa ating 28th Congress, hindi lang matiyak ang sapat na pondo sa CHR, kundi mapasa na rin ang mga mahalagang batas na ito,

**[01:12:56.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000668)  
ang strengthening ng CHR bilang National Human Rights Institution, kasama na rin po ng protection ng rights ng human rights defenders.

**[01:13:06.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000669)  
Meron po tayong HRD bill.

**[01:13:08.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000670)  
Meron din po tayo ngayong nakakaabot.

**[01:13:10.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000671)  
Ang bang na panukalang batas para sa National Preventive Mechanism para matiyak na compliance sa optional protocol sa Convention Against Torture ang ating mga batas, ang ating mga palisya.

**[01:13:27.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000672)  
Kaya naman, Madam Chair, dito na po ako magtatapos.

**[01:13:30.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000673)  
Hindi pa rin po nagbibigay ang CHR ng ulat tungkol dun sa hinihain ng mga kababaihan mula sa Marikina.

**[01:13:39.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000674)  
Tungkol po sa ulat sa kanilang lugar ng presence po na nagbubunga o naghahatid po ng threat, harassment, at intimidation sa kanilang mga lugar.

**[01:13:53.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000675)  
Kaya po, yan na lang po ang maitutulak natin sa CHR na dagliang maipaabot sa representasyon na ito.

**[01:13:59.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000676)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[01:14:03.880] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000677)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:14:05.160] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000678)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative

**[01:14:09.560] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000679)  
Dadah Kiram Ismula of the Akbayan Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

**[01:14:16.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000680)  
Representative Dadah Kiram Ismula of Akbayan Party-list is now recognized for her interpellation.

**[01:14:22.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000681)  
Magandang gabi po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[01:14:26.460] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000682)  
Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

**[01:14:30.060] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000683)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, meron lamang akong ilang katanungan related to the disposition of cases handled by the Commission.

**[01:14:38.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000684)  
Distinguished Sponsor, under the 2027 NEP ng CHR, can you describe what the Human Rights Protection Program is about?

**[01:14:48.860] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000685)  
And can the good sponsor also please describe how this program and its services can help an ordinary citizen, for example, a Moro or indigenous person? Thank you.

**[01:15:07.700] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000686)  
Madam Speaker, the Human Rights Protection Service is the operational arm responsible for investigating complaints,

**[01:15:17.160] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000687)  
manages cases, and delivering direct intervention for victims of human rights violations.

**[01:15:22.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000688)  
So, yung key functions and services po are independent investigations, quick response operations, legal aid and counseling, forensic and medical legal services, financial assistance, and witness protection.

**[01:15:43.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000689)  
Paano po kaya ito makakatulong sa isang ordinaryong mamamayan or ordinary citizen, for example, a moro or indigenous person?

**[01:15:52.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000690)  
Madam Speaker, yung ating mga clients, actually po, pwede po silang pumunta walk-in, physical in-person, o pwede rin po nilang bisitahin ang ating mga regional offices.

**[01:16:05.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000691)  
Meron po tayong 17 regional offices sa buong Pilipinas.

**[01:16:11.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000692)  
Pwede rin po silang mag-message sa FB.

**[01:16:13.940] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000693)  
Meron din po tayong online portal, yung tinatawag po natin mismo.

**[01:16:18.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000694)  
Meron din po tayong hotlines, emails.

**[01:16:20.440] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000695)  
Pwede rin po silang magbigay ng letters.

**[01:16:22.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000696)  
At saka motu proprio, our own investigation and initiative.

**[01:16:29.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000697)  
So, Madam Sponsor, if an ordinary citizen wants to avail the services of this Human Rights Protection Program, ano ang process for them to avail?

**[01:16:40.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000698)  
Bukod doon sa nabanggit ninyong mag-walk-in, magsusulat, paano po kaya yung proseso nila?

**[01:16:51.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000701)  
Sabihin natin, nag-walk-in po ako.

**[01:16:53.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000702)  
Pagdating ko doon, paano po kaya yung magiging proseso?

**[01:16:57.460] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000703)  
Wala po yung, ang komisyon po ay, wala po silang formal process na tinatawag.

**[01:17:04.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000704)  
Formal complaint.

**[01:17:05.560] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000705)  
Formal complaint. Lahat po ay, pag pumunta po doon, yung po ay agad-agad nating tutugunan.

**[01:17:13.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000706)  
Hindi po kailangan magkaroon ng formal complaint na dadalhin sa komisyon ang ating mga clients.

**[01:17:20.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000707)  
At tama po ba, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

**[01:17:22.600] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000708)  
wala itong timeline?

**[01:17:25.000] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000709)  
Wala po.

**[01:17:26.240] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000710)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[01:17:27.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000711)  
Given this, sa 2025 GAA, ang target ninyo sa pag-resolve ng human rights violation cases ay 90%.

**[01:17:36.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000712)  
Pero ang actual accomplishment ay 13.90% lang.

**[01:17:41.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000713)  
For cases finally disposed, kumbaga naisara na, within the prescribed period, ang target ay 95%, pero ang actual ay 53.30%.

**[01:17:52.600] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000714)  
Maari po bang ipaliwanag kung bakit hindi na-meet ang targets na ito?

**[01:18:04.560] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000715)  
Yes, Madam Speaker. Yes, we do confirm na 90% po ng ating targets sa pag-resolve ng cases with access to remedies,

**[01:18:14.980] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000716)  
lumalabas po na tila mababa ang accomplishment at 13.9%.

**[01:18:20.240] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000717)  
Ngunit ito po ay dahil.

**[01:18:22.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000718)  
Isinama namin sa bilang ang mga backlog cases mula pa po noong 1987 hanggang 2024.

**[01:18:29.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000719)  
Kapag tinignan po lamang ang new o yung pong 2025 na mga bagong kaso, ang ating pong accomplishment ay 86.67%.

**[01:18:39.880] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000720)  
Kaya nais po naming ipaliwanag na tila mababa po yung 53.30% dahil karamihan sa mga kasong naitala sa panahon ay natanggap po sa huling quarter

**[01:18:50.940] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000721)  
o mga buwan ng 2025. Kaya ito po

**[01:18:54.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000722)  
ay tumatakbo pa for investigation sa ating pong mga regional offices at siyempre po hindi naman po ito madali.

**[01:19:02.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000723)  
Kaya nahihirapan din po tayo.

**[01:19:04.500] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000724)  
Pero para ipaliwanag po ito sa mga region, kami po ay maraming investigation.

**[01:19:09.520] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000725)  
Marami po tayong kaso for investigation na mas madaming walk-in clients.

**[01:19:14.400] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000726)  
Kaya po yung kakulangan po ng personnel natin, isang factor pa rin po ito.

**[01:19:20.320] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000727)  
At nagkakaroon po tayo ng...

**[01:19:22.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000728)  
At nagkakaroon po tayo ng NIR na isa pa lamang newly created office.

**[01:19:26.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000729)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[01:19:29.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000730)  
So matotal po ang lumalabas na kaya siya medyo mababa tignan ay dahil may mga nasa huling quarter na ito na pumasok ang cases

**[01:19:40.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000731)  
at kaya hindi pa naibibilang ang accomplishment niya.

**[01:19:44.820] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000732)  
Tama po, Madam Speaker.

**[01:19:46.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000733)  
At bilang isa din sa mga rason ay ang syempre ang kaso ay taon...

**[01:19:52.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000734)  
Taon ang bilang bago mo ito ma-re-resolve.

**[01:19:55.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000735)  
Depende pa sa anong klaseng kaso ito, diba?

**[01:19:58.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000736)  
But anyway, finally, Distinguished Sponsor, ano po ang kongkretong hakbang na nakikita ng CHR para masigurong ma-improve ang performance

**[01:20:08.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000737)  
at maabot ang mga itinakdang targets sa susunod na taon?

**[01:20:12.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000738)  
Madam Speaker, to my colleague, napakaganda po ng tanong ninyo.

**[01:20:18.240] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000739)  
To address the gaps po in the resolution and disposition of cases,

**[01:20:22.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000740)  
the investigation function of the CHR should first be strengthened before the resolution, disposition of cases be made.

**[01:20:31.740] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000741)  
Thus, the following line items is the budget should be increased.

**[01:20:35.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000742)  
Unang-una po yung travel expenses po natin, supplies, representation, postage and training expenses.

**[01:20:44.100] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000743)  
Kasi alam nyo po, Madam Speaker, nahahamper po yung services po ng komisyon.

**[01:20:50.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000744)  
Yung pagpunta na lamang po.

**[01:20:52.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000745)  
Sa mga regional offices, nagkakaroon po kami, medyo tight po ang budget na naibigay po natin sa komisyon.

**[01:20:59.640] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000746)  
Kaya po naman, hindi lamang po sa personnel, pati po sa services, talagang nagkakaroon po tayo ng gaps and lapses.

**[01:21:07.160] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000747)  
Pero gayon pa man po, hanggang sa makakaya nga po ng komisyon, ay gagawin po natin ang mandato po sa atin ng konstitusyon.

**[01:21:14.540] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000748)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[01:21:16.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000749)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, dadako naman po ako sa mga katanungan na nais ipahatid

**[01:21:22.780] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000750)  
ng ating colleague, our Senior Deputy Minority Leader, Representative Leila de Lima.

**[01:21:29.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000751)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, the Philippines ranking in the World Justice Project Rule of Law Index showed a slight improvement overall.

**[01:21:38.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000752)  
Moving from 99th out of 142 countries in 2024 to 97th out of 143 countries in 2025.

**[01:21:49.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000753)  
However, the country remained.

**[01:21:52.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000754)  
118th in fundamental rights while its civil justice ranking deteriorated from 98th to 106th despite an improvement in criminal justice from 124th to 119th.

**[01:22:08.060] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000755)  
Sa kabila ng slight improvement overall, nananatiling mababa ang performance natin sa fundamental rights. Ano po ang nakikitang pangunahing gaps ng CHR at ano ang mga hakbang nitong ginagawa para matugunan ang mga ito?

**[01:22:28.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000756)  
Madam Speaker, on national protection mechanism, this aim for a comprehensive and institutionalized national mechanism that integrates

**[01:22:38.060] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000757)  
prevention, protection, and response. It also enhances coordination across stakeholders, utilizes data-driven system for decision-making, and also ensures inclusivity through GAD principle.

**[01:22:53.240] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000758)  
Ang PKP framework po aims to address the gaps. For example, yung delayed response to incidents, weak interagency coordination, at yung ating limited integration of data system.

**[01:23:07.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000759)  
Meron din po.

**[01:23:08.060] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000760)  
Mayroon din po tayong uneven access to service across regions by establishing a unified human rights.

**[01:23:16.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000761)  
Para ba tugunan ang pagbaba ng civil justice? Anong mga interventions ang kailangan ng CHR at may sapat po bang pondo or funds sa kasulukuyang budget para maisagawa ang mga ito?

**[01:23:30.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000762)  
Actually po, lagi po naman tayong hindi sapat ang pondo, Madam Speaker.

**[01:23:35.700] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000763)  
Pero siyempre po, we have the continuing

**[01:23:38.060] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000764)  
advocacy for passage of HRD laws and also lahat po ng bill for CADB.

**[01:23:48.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000765)  
Ang budget po kasi natin for 2027 para sa protection ay 95 million ay hindi po sapat para mapalawak at gumawa ng bagong mga programa at tustusan ang gastos ng 17 regional offices na nangangailangan po ng mga sasakyan,

**[01:24:08.060] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000766)  
gas at kung ano-ano pa para po sa ating mga imbestigasyon.

**[01:24:14.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000767)  
At para po sa huling katanungan, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, sa criminal justice naman, umangat tayo from 124 to 119.

**[01:24:25.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000768)  
Pero mababa pa rin ang standing natin.

**[01:24:27.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000769)  
Ano po ang specific programs ng CHR na nangangailangan ng additional resources upang mapalakas ang access to justice?

**[01:24:38.060] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000770)  
At human rights protection?

**[01:24:40.880] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000771)  
Unang-una po, Madam Speaker, kailangan po natin madagdagan ang budget ng ating komisyon para ma-establish po at mapalakas ang national protection mechanism para po sa ating human rights defenders.

**[01:24:54.920] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000772)  
Katulad po ng ating bantay karapatang pantao, kalinga karapatang pantao, at tugon karapatang pantao, nagkakahalaga po itong an additional 13 million pesos.

**[01:25:08.060] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000773)  
Sa huli, ito'y lumalabas na nasa budget pa rin ang problema.

**[01:25:13.840] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000774)  
In closing, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, I would like to manifest that the budget of the Commission on Human Rights should be sufficient to allow the CHR to fully carry out its constitutional mandate, which is to protect and uphold the rights of our people.

**[01:25:30.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000775)  
We trust that the guidance of the good sponsor, this chamber, will give due consideration to strengthening the CHR's budget.

**[01:25:40.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-000777)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[01:25:43.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000778)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:25:52.860] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-000779)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list to interpellate the proposed budget.

**[01:26:04.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000780)  
Representative Rene Luis Co of Kabataan Party-list.

**[01:26:07.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-000783)  
Now recognized to interpellate.

**[01:26:09.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000784)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening to the good sponsor and to the Commission on Human Rights.

**[01:26:17.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000785)  
I'd just like to have some questions in relation to our discussion in the previous budget briefing held with the Commission on Human Rights.

**[01:26:30.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000786)  
In the committee-level deliberations, the CHR mentioned that there is still or there is now

**[01:26:37.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000787)  
no specific line item in the budget for its programs against red tagging, which is up for design.

**[01:26:44.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000788)  
And so, if there will be a design for it, it will get its funds from the Human Rights Protection Program.

**[01:26:53.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000789)  
Is this correct, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

**[01:26:56.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000790)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[01:26:57.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000791)  
Would it be beneficial, therefore, if the budget were to itemize and directly fund the CHR's anti-red tagging program?

**[01:27:07.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000792)  
Similar to the National Preventive Mechanism in the near future?

**[01:27:12.580] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000793)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[01:27:14.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000794)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:27:17.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000795)  
We note that the NPM item label has conduct of regular visitations in places of detention and rehabilitation facilities

**[01:27:27.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000796)  
and preventive monitoring of human rights conditions herein.

**[01:27:32.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000797)  
In our previous discussion and in the recommendations,

**[01:27:37.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000798)  
as provided in the Commission on Human Rights investigation on the National Inquiry on Red Tagging,

**[01:27:46.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000799)  
it says that there could be quick response mechanisms when such instances or cases are reported to the Commission on Human Rights.

**[01:27:55.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000800)  
In the near future, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, can the CHR consider or can we expect from the CHR that there will be a line item

**[01:28:06.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000801)  
to correspond?

**[01:28:07.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000802)  
To funding the creation, design, and support of programs to address issues of red tagging that will be designed by the CHR?

**[01:28:20.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000803)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:28:23.220] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000804)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[01:28:26.500] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000805)  
Madam Speaker, yes, po.

**[01:28:28.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000806)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:28:30.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000807)  
We're heartened to hear this response from the Commission on Human Rights,

**[01:28:35.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000808)  
and we hope that in the near future,

**[01:28:37.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000809)  
or we'd be able to design programs and to have a line item specifically to ensure that our recommendation

**[01:28:49.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000810)  
that red tagging must be prevented, must be responded upon with preventive mechanisms would happen and would be supported.

**[01:29:03.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000811)  
My next question would be because in the past year since the last budget season, multiple activist groups and progressive individuals

**[01:29:15.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000812)  
have filed complaints before the Commission on Human Rights to investigate human rights violations.

**[01:29:21.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000813)  
There were cases filed by a member of BPO Employees Network in Cebu.

**[01:29:31.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000814)  
There is a complaint filed.

**[01:29:33.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000815)  
There is a complaint filed by a student leader from SLSU.

**[01:29:37.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000816)  
There are complaints filed because of the arbitrary mass arrests during the 2026 State of the Nation Address.

**[01:29:46.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000817)  
There's also one filed by a Gabriela Women's Party chapter in Marikina.

**[01:29:51.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000818)  
And there is also another one filed by civil rights organizations in Ilocos.

**[01:29:58.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000819)  
There's one filed in Southern

**[01:30:00.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000820)  
Tagalog Region. There's one

**[01:30:01.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000821)  
filed by a student leader in UST.

**[01:30:04.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000822)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:30:06.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000823)  
may we ask

**[01:30:08.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000824)  
for the statuses of

**[01:30:10.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000825)  
the following cases?

**[01:30:12.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000826)  
Can this just be submitted to

**[01:30:13.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000827)  
the good representation in a report?

**[01:30:16.680] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000828)  
Yes, Madam Speaker,

**[01:30:18.100] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000829)  
we will submit our

**[01:30:19.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000830)  
report and updates

**[01:30:22.400] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000831)  
to you,

**[01:30:24.360] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000832)  
Cong. Renee.

**[01:30:27.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000833)  
Madam Speaker, good

**[01:30:28.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000834)  
sponsor because this is in relation to

**[01:30:30.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000835)  
the earlier question

**[01:30:32.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000836)  
that

**[01:30:33.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000837)  
these groups and

**[01:30:36.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000838)  
these individuals have

**[01:30:38.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000839)  
suffered

**[01:30:38.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000840)  
instances, cases of red tagging

**[01:30:42.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000841)  
but not only that, human rights

**[01:30:44.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000842)  
violations, surveillance,

**[01:30:46.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000843)  
harassment,

**[01:30:48.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000844)  
police violence,

**[01:30:51.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000845)  
that at the end of the day

**[01:30:53.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000846)  
the proposals for

**[01:30:55.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000847)  
the line items

**[01:30:57.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000848)  
may be

**[01:30:58.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000849)  
best be used

**[01:30:59.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000850)  
for the continuing operations

**[01:31:02.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000851)  
of the Commission on Human Rights.

**[01:31:04.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000852)  
So Madam Speaker, we'll

**[01:31:06.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000853)  
submit these cases

**[01:31:08.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000854)  
and we'd like to request

**[01:31:10.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000855)  
a written update on

**[01:31:12.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000856)  
their status

**[01:31:14.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000857)  
as of date, Madam Speaker.

**[01:31:17.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000858)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:31:18.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000859)  
my next question would be

**[01:31:20.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000860)  
in relation to

**[01:31:21.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000861)  
the HRVVMC

**[01:31:24.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000862)  
and the Martial Law Museum.

**[01:31:26.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000863)  
As we know, it's September

**[01:31:28.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000864)  
16, we are a few

**[01:31:30.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000865)  
days shy

**[01:31:31.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000866)  
to the

**[01:31:34.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000867)  
commemoration of

**[01:31:36.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000868)  
the declaration of Martial Law

**[01:31:38.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000869)  
which happens every

**[01:31:40.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000870)  
September 21 of the year.

**[01:31:43.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000871)  
So that will be

**[01:31:44.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000872)  
its 54th year since

**[01:31:45.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000873)  
the declaration by

**[01:31:48.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000874)  
Ferdinand Marcos

**[01:31:50.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000875)  
Sr. May we ask for a status

**[01:31:52.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000876)  
update on the following memorial

**[01:31:54.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000877)  
efforts? For example,

**[01:31:56.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000878)  
we have the Freedom Memorial

**[01:31:58.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000879)  
Museum Gallery.

**[01:32:00.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000880)  
Can we ask for a general

**[01:32:02.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000881)  
status update of the Freedom Memorial

**[01:32:04.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000882)  
Museum Gallery? Madam Speaker,

**[01:32:06.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000883)  
good sponsor.

**[01:32:10.020] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000884)  
Madam Speaker, as to

**[01:32:12.160] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000885)  
current status of the Freedom Memorial

**[01:32:14.400] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000886)  
Museum Project,

**[01:32:17.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000887)  
original

**[01:32:18.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000888)  
site unavailable.

**[01:32:21.540] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000889)  
On March

**[01:32:22.060] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000890)  
2026,

**[01:32:23.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000891)  
March 26,

**[01:32:25.580] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000892)  
2026,

**[01:32:27.100] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000893)  
the UP Office of the

**[01:32:28.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000894)  
Vice President for Development

**[01:32:29.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000895)  
informed HRVVMC

**[01:32:32.000] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000896)  
that the originally agreed

**[01:32:33.660] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000897)  
[unclear] site within UP Diliman

**[01:32:35.740] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000898)  
could no longer be made available

**[01:32:38.200] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000899)  
and proposed an alternative

**[01:32:40.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000900)  
site. September 2,

**[01:32:42.280] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000901)  
2026, the Commission

**[01:32:44.320] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000902)  
wrote a follow-up

**[01:32:45.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000903)  
to the

**[01:32:48.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000904)  
UP Office of the Vice President

**[01:32:49.640] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000905)  
for Development for the Submission

**[01:32:52.160] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000906)  
of Relevant Technical Document.

**[01:32:56.240] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000907)  
And as of today,

**[01:32:57.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000908)  
the UP Office of the Vice President

**[01:32:59.980] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000909)  
for Development has yet to submit

**[01:33:02.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000910)  
the technical documents

**[01:33:03.940] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000911)  
requested by

**[01:33:05.740] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000912)  
HRVVMC to evaluate

**[01:33:07.900] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000913)  
the alternative site it

**[01:33:09.560] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000914)  
proposed. Madam Speaker,

**[01:33:12.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000915)  
good sponsor, to clarify, this is for

**[01:33:13.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000916)  
the permanent Martial Law Museum,

**[01:33:15.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000917)  
correct?

**[01:33:16.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000917-split-2)  
Yes, po.

**[01:33:18.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000918)  
And the

**[01:33:19.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000919)  
status update being shared now

**[01:33:21.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000920)  
is that there is

**[01:33:23.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000921)  
finality from UP that

**[01:33:25.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000922)  
it would no longer

**[01:33:27.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000923)  
be available

**[01:33:29.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000924)  
with regards to the original

**[01:33:31.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000925)  
site conceptualized

**[01:33:34.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000926)  
for it.

**[01:33:35.100] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000926-split-2)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[01:33:36.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000927)  
We're looking at

**[01:33:37.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000928)  
or we're hoping for alternatives

**[01:33:39.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000929)  
which has yet to arrive.

**[01:33:42.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000930)  
Is that correct?

**[01:33:43.100] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000930-split-2)  
Yes, po. Yes, Madam

**[01:33:43.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000931)  
Speaker.

**[01:33:44.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000931-split-2)  
So there are no alternative sites

**[01:33:46.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000932)  
as of date, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

**[01:33:48.060] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000933)  
As of date, po, wala pa po.

**[01:33:49.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000934)  
Okay.

**[01:33:51.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000935)  
So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may I

**[01:33:53.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000936)  
clarify what will happen

**[01:33:55.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000937)  
to its budget?

**[01:33:57.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000938)  
Will it just be

**[01:33:58.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000939)  
sitting there for a bit until

**[01:34:01.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000940)  
we find an alternative site?

**[01:34:03.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000941)  
Is there a threat that it will have to

**[01:34:05.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000942)  
be returned to the Treasury

**[01:34:07.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000943)  
because there's no alternative

**[01:34:10.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000944)  
yet? Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

**[01:34:12.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000945)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:34:13.920] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000946)  
since nasa trust fund po siya,

**[01:34:16.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000947)  
secured po siya, Madam Speaker.

**[01:34:18.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000948)  
Okay. Madam

**[01:34:19.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000949)  
Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:34:21.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000950)  
is there

**[01:34:23.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000951)  
still

**[01:34:24.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000952)  
a target date by which,

**[01:34:27.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000953)  
it can be put up, given

**[01:34:29.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000954)  
that there's this

**[01:34:31.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000955)  
development?

**[01:34:34.980] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000956)  
Target

**[01:34:35.700] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000957)  
date of completion? Madam Speaker,

**[01:34:37.840] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000958)  
we're still dependent on the,

**[01:34:39.640] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000959)  
on UP.

**[01:34:41.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000960)  
Okay. So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:34:43.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000961)  
this representation is still hoping

**[01:34:45.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000962)  
that even though

**[01:34:47.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000963)  
given this unfortunate

**[01:34:49.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000964)  
development, dapat po matayo

**[01:34:51.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000965)  
itong Memorial Museum

**[01:34:54.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000966)  
na ito. Marami pong

**[01:34:56.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000967)  
um,

**[01:34:57.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000968)  
mga mamamayang Pilipino

**[01:34:59.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000969)  
ang pinaslang noong batas

**[01:35:01.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000970)  
militar. Dahil din po

**[01:35:03.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000971)  
dito, nagkaroon tayo

**[01:35:05.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000972)  
ng greater human rights

**[01:35:07.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000973)  
safeguards in the

**[01:35:09.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000974)  
Constitution, which the

**[01:35:11.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000975)  
Commission on Human Rights is

**[01:35:13.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000976)  
duty-bound to

**[01:35:15.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000977)  
ensure

**[01:35:17.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000978)  
and protect. And bahagi

**[01:35:19.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000979)  
po ng efforts na yun,

**[01:35:21.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000980)  
aside from yung legal

**[01:35:23.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000981)  
duty, ay yung

**[01:35:24.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000982)  
responsibility to pass on,

**[01:35:27.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000983)  
yung lessons

**[01:35:28.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000984)  
painted in blood, noong

**[01:35:31.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000985)  
na ayaw nating maulit muli.

**[01:35:33.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000986)  
Sana po ay makakuha tayo

**[01:35:35.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000987)  
ng update as soon as possible.

**[01:35:37.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000988)  
May this representation

**[01:35:38.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000989)  
be furnished and update

**[01:35:41.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000990)  
once available, if

**[01:35:43.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000991)  
it is received by the Commission on Human Rights.

**[01:35:46.660] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000992)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:35:47.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000993)  
HRVVMC commits to

**[01:35:49.600] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000994)  
work closely with UP

**[01:35:50.940] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000995)  
for the immediate resolution on the matter

**[01:35:53.640] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000996)  
of the site of the museum

**[01:35:55.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000997)  
within the framework of the HRVVMC

**[01:35:57.620] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000998)  
UP 2018

**[01:35:59.980] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-000999)  
[unclear] agreement.

**[01:36:02.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001000)  
So, continuous po ito, Madam Speaker,

**[01:36:03.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001001)  
hindi po titigil

**[01:36:05.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001002)  
ang Commission at ang

**[01:36:06.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001003)  
HRVVMC na magkaroon po tayo

**[01:36:10.220] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001004)  
ng museum

**[01:36:12.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001005)  
para po sa ating victims

**[01:36:14.160] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001006)  
ng martial law.

**[01:36:16.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001007)  
And to clarify, Madam Speaker,

**[01:36:18.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001008)  
good sponsor, this is different from the

**[01:36:19.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001009)  
Freedom Memorial Museum Gallery,

**[01:36:22.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001010)  
which is not the permanent

**[01:36:23.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001011)  
installation yet, but it is

**[01:36:26.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001012)  
essentially the temporary

**[01:36:27.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001013)  
site for

**[01:36:29.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001014)  
the artifacts

**[01:36:31.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001015)  
and the educational

**[01:36:33.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001016)  
materials

**[01:36:34.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001017)  
in relation to martial law. Is this correct?

**[01:36:37.900] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001018)  
Yes po. It is temporary, Madam

**[01:36:39.880] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001019)  
Speaker.

**[01:36:41.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001020)  
May I ask how many visitors

**[01:36:43.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001021)  
this

**[01:36:44.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001022)  
gallery aim to service

**[01:36:47.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001023)  
monthly and annually?

**[01:36:49.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001024)  
And may assessment na po ba on the success

**[01:36:51.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001025)  
of these events at paano po ito

**[01:36:53.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001026)  
pwedeng ma-improve?

**[01:36:57.460] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001027)  
Madam Speaker, since

**[01:37:01.420] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001028)  
launching the Freedom Memorial Museum

**[01:37:03.320] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001029)  
Gallery and establishing

**[01:37:05.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001030)  
its regular services, the Commission

**[01:37:07.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001031)  
has monitored performance through

**[01:37:09.240] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001032)  
client feedback and satisfaction

**[01:37:10.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001033)  
surveys. In 2024,

**[01:37:13.700] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001034)  
museum services achieved

**[01:37:15.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001035)  
a 99.5

**[01:37:16.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001036)  
satisfaction ratings.

**[01:37:19.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001037)  
This high standard continued

**[01:37:21.100] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001038)  
in 2025 with client

**[01:37:23.280] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001039)  
feedback reflecting consistent service

**[01:37:25.420] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001040)  
quality and continuous

**[01:37:27.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001041)  
improvement resulting in a

**[01:37:28.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001042)  
100% satisfaction

**[01:37:31.060] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001043)  
rating, Madam Speaker.

**[01:37:33.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001044)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:37:35.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001045)  
meron po ba tayong datos

**[01:37:37.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001046)  
tungkol sa ilan pong

**[01:37:39.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001047)  
mga bisita, yung

**[01:37:41.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001048)  
nakakita na

**[01:37:43.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001049)  
at nakapunta na sa gallery?

**[01:37:45.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001050)  
How about kung may average

**[01:37:47.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001051)  
monthly visitors

**[01:37:49.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001052)  
po to if that data

**[01:37:51.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001053)  
is available? Madam Speaker,

**[01:37:53.360] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001054)  
yes, meron po. We will

**[01:37:55.180] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001055)  
provide na lamang po with the data.

**[01:37:57.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001056)  
Pero ngayon po ay

**[01:37:59.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001057)  
more than 300 clients

**[01:38:01.360] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001058)  
na po ang ating na-reach

**[01:38:03.160] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001059)  
for 2026.

**[01:38:06.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001060)  
And

**[01:38:06.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001061)  
how were, kamusta po yung most recent

**[01:38:09.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001062)  
gallery visits and tours guided

**[01:38:11.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001063)  
by martial law victims?

**[01:38:13.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001064)  
May, aside po

**[01:38:15.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001065)  
from the positive assessment, meron po

**[01:38:17.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001066)  
bang substantive feedback?

**[01:38:19.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001067)  
We're still collating po, Madam

**[01:38:21.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001068)  
Speaker, with regards to

**[01:38:23.320] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001069)  
po sa feedback po.

**[01:38:24.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001070)  
Okay. Madam Speaker,

**[01:38:26.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001071)  
good sponsor,

**[01:38:28.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001072)  
at the proper time, this representation

**[01:38:30.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001073)  
will move to amend

**[01:38:33.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001074)  
to restore the cuts made

**[01:38:34.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001075)  
and to ensure a sufficient budget

**[01:38:37.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001076)  
for human rights protection

**[01:38:38.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001077)  
and education, including

**[01:38:40.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001078)  
safeguards against red-tagging, torture

**[01:38:42.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001079)  
and other abuses perpetrated

**[01:38:45.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001080)  
by state forces, and

**[01:38:46.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001081)  
support for the completion and operation

**[01:38:48.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001082)  
of the permanent martial law museum.

**[01:38:51.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001083)  
Nonetheless, Madam Speaker,

**[01:38:53.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001084)  
this representation continues

**[01:38:54.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001085)  
to advocate,

**[01:38:56.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001086)  
for the budget of the Commission

**[01:38:58.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001087)  
on Human Rights, as we have

**[01:39:01.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001088)  
manifested during its budget

**[01:39:03.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001089)  
briefing, and of course,

**[01:39:05.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001090)  
marami pong mga programa

**[01:39:07.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001091)  
yung

**[01:39:08.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001092)  
kinakailangan na may

**[01:39:11.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001093)  
pondo na hindi naman po kalakhan

**[01:39:13.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001094)  
na maaari pong

**[01:39:14.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001095)  
i-grant sa Commission on Human

**[01:39:17.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001096)  
Rights, para po hindi lang

**[01:39:19.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001097)  
sa mga direly necessary

**[01:39:20.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001098)  
projects na ma-implement nila,

**[01:39:23.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001099)  
pero kahit yung mode of

**[01:39:24.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001100)  
operations na inaasahan natin,

**[01:39:26.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001101)  
sa Commission on Human Rights,

**[01:39:28.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001102)  
such as, for example, not only the visiting

**[01:39:30.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001103)  
of detention centers, pero kung paano

**[01:39:32.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001104)  
nila na-ensure that

**[01:39:34.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001105)  
mga bahay pag-asa at iba pa,

**[01:39:37.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001106)  
they're up to par with the standards

**[01:39:39.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001107)  
provided by law.

**[01:39:40.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001108)  
Gusto natin magawa ng

**[01:39:42.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001109)  
Commission on Human Rights yung kanilang

**[01:39:44.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001110)  
mandato at supportado po,

**[01:39:47.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001111)  
hindi lang ang national office,

**[01:39:49.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001112)  
pero kahit yung mga regional offices

**[01:39:51.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001113)  
nila sa mga operations na ito.

**[01:39:53.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001114)  
So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:39:55.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001115)  
this representation,

**[01:39:56.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001116)  
continues to support

**[01:39:58.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001117)  
the budget of the CHR

**[01:40:00.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001118)  
and we hope for

**[01:40:02.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001119)  
the

**[01:40:04.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001120)  
addition at the proper

**[01:40:06.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001121)  
time which the representation and

**[01:40:08.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001122)  
many of our colleagues here

**[01:40:10.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001123)  
will also move and support

**[01:40:12.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001124)  
the support as well.

**[01:40:15.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001125)  
So that's all, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:40:17.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001126)  
Maraming salamat po ulit sa Commission

**[01:40:18.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001127)  
on Human Rights and

**[01:40:20.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001128)  
the good sponsor.

**[01:40:26.740] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001129)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:40:33.720] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001130)  
Motion to suspend, Madam Speaker.

**[01:40:36.720] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001131)  
Session is suspended.

**[01:40:56.740] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001133)  
Session is resumed.

**[01:40:59.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001134)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:41:01.140] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001135)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[01:41:03.620] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001136)  
Representative Presley De Jesus

**[01:41:06.080] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001137)  
of the PHILRECA Party-list

**[01:41:07.880] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001138)  
to interpellate on the proposed budget.

**[01:41:10.960] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001139)  
Representative De Jesus

**[01:41:11.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001140)  
is hereby recognized to interpellate.

**[01:41:14.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001141)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[01:41:17.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001142)  
Since all the questions

**[01:41:18.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001143)  
already been asked, no?

**[01:41:20.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001144)  
So, Madam Speaker,

**[01:41:22.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001145)  
there being no more

**[01:41:24.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001146)  
members for the minority,

**[01:41:26.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001147)  
who wishes to interpellate,

**[01:41:29.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001148)  
I move to terminate

**[01:41:30.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001149)  
the period of sponsorship

**[01:41:32.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001150)  
and debate for the budget

**[01:41:34.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001151)  
of the Commission

**[01:41:36.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001152)  
on Human Rights. I so move,

**[01:41:39.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001153)  
Madam Speaker.

**[01:41:44.280] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001154)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:41:47.640] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001155)  
on the part of the majority,

**[01:41:49.840] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001156)  
we join the minority

**[01:41:51.160] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001157)  
in the motion to terminate

**[01:41:52.660] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001158)  
the period of interpellation

**[01:41:54.320] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001159)  
on the proposed budget

**[01:41:56.120] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001160)  
of the

**[01:41:56.740] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001161)  
Commission on Human Rights.

**[01:42:01.620] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001162)  
Including all its attached agencies.

**[01:42:12.300] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001163)  
The Chair would like to clarify

**[01:42:14.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001164)  
with Representative De Jesus

**[01:42:15.860] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001165)  
if your motion includes

**[01:42:18.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001166)  
the Commission

**[01:42:19.680] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001167)  
on Human Rights Violations

**[01:42:22.140] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001168)  
Victims Memorial Commission.

**[01:42:24.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001169)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[01:42:26.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001170)  
Again, let me reiterate

**[01:42:29.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001171)  
my motion to termination.

**[01:42:31.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001172)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:42:33.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001173)  
there being no more members

**[01:42:34.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001174)  
of the minority,

**[01:42:35.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001175)  
who wishes to interpellate,

**[01:42:37.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001176)  
I move to terminate

**[01:42:38.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001177)  
the period of sponsorship

**[01:42:39.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001178)  
and debate for the budget

**[01:42:41.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001179)  
of the Commission on Human Rights

**[01:42:42.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001180)  
and attached agencies.

**[01:42:44.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001181)  
I so move, Madam Speaker.

**[01:42:47.020] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001182)  
Including the . . .

**[01:43:05.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001183)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:43:06.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001184)  
including Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

**[01:43:10.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-001185)  
I so move, Madam Speaker.

**[01:43:12.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001186)  
What does the House say?

**[01:43:23.420] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001188)  
Madam Speaker,

**[01:43:24.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001189)  
on the part of the majority,

**[01:43:26.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001190)  
we join the minority in the motion

**[01:43:29.140] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001191)  
to terminate the period of interpellation

**[01:43:31.420] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001192)  
of the proposed budget

**[01:43:33.340] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001193)  
of the Commission on Human Rights

**[01:43:35.220] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001194)  
including the

**[01:43:36.980] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001195)  
Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

**[01:43:39.940] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001196)  
There is a joint motion to terminate

**[01:43:42.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001197)  
the interpellations on the proposed budget

**[01:43:44.840] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001198)  
of the Commission on Human Rights

**[01:43:46.860] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001199)  
including Human Rights Violations Victims Memorial Commission.

**[01:43:50.940] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001200)  
Is there any objection?

**[01:43:52.420] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001201)  
The Chair hears none.

**[01:43:54.200] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001202)  
The interpellations

**[01:43:55.920] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001203)  
on the proposed budget of said

**[01:43:58.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001204)  
agency is hereby terminated.

**[01:44:01.560] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001205)  
Madam Speaker, and to our distinguished

**[01:44:04.300] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-001206)  
colleagues, maraming, maraming salamat po.

**[01:44:07.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001207)  
Noted.

**[01:44:08.460] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-001208)  
Motion to suspend.

**[01:44:09.700] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001209)  
Session is suspended.

**[01:50:15.030] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001222)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[01:50:19.140] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001223)  
Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies.

**[01:50:35.240] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001224)  
And for the purpose, Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the said department, namely Secretary Henry Rhoel Aguda; Chief of Staff Maria Teresa Magno Garcia; Undersecretary Heherson Asiddao.

**[01:51:03.760] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001225)  
Undersecretary Sarah Maria Sison; Undersecretary Leandro Angelo Aguirre; Undersecretary David Almirol Jr.; Undersecretary Leonido Pulido III; Undersecretary Rodil Aniban.

**[01:51:33.720] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001226)  
Undersecretary Christian Mark Guingcangco; Assistant Secretary Melvyn Carlo Barroa; Assistant Secretary Ryan Martin [unclear]; Assistant Secretary Maria Victoria Castro; Assistant Secretary Celine Melanie Dee; Assistant Secretary Pinky Jimenez; and Assistant Secretary Emmy Lou Versoza-Delfin.

**[01:52:17.080] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001227)  
Likewise representing the Cybercrime Investigation and Coordinating Center, Executive Director Renato Paraiso; the National Privacy Commission, Privacy Commissioner and Chairman Johann Carlos Barcena; and the National Telecommunications Commission, Commissioner Ella Blanca Lopez.

**[01:52:49.280] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001227-split-2)  
We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of DICT and its attached agencies. Welcome to the House of Representatives.

**[01:52:59.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001228)  
And with regard to the motion of the Majority Leader, is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

**[01:53:10.120] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001229)  
I move, Madam Speaker, that we recognize Vice Chair Brian Poe, the vice chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies.

**[01:53:38.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001230)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Representative Vice Chair Brian Poe, [unclear]. Of course, the vice chairman of the Committee on Appropriations is hereby recognized to begin the sponsorship of the budget of DICT and its attached agencies. Vice Chair may now proceed with his sponsorship speech.

**[01:54:02.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001231)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I happily address my colleagues here in plenary. I rise to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology and its attached agencies. For fiscal year 2027, DICT and its attached agencies are proposing a total expenditure program of 19.49 billion pesos, an increase of 1.27 billion, or 7%, from fiscal year 2026.

**[01:54:38.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001232)  
A significant portion of this budget goes to ICT infrastructure. The ICT Systems and Information Infrastructure Program receives 3.85 billion, as well as 1.13 billion for the National Broadband Plan, up by 69.3%, and 949.5 million for the National Government Data Center, up 27%.

**[01:55:04.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001233)  
These investments are already producing results. The National Fiber Backbone has laid 3,026 kilometers of fiber; 59 of 136 backbone nodes have been activated. And the Philippine Digital Infrastructure Project has an estimated cost of 16.1 billion, with 2.16 billion programmed for fiscal year 2027.

**[01:55:32.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001234)  
For connectivity, DICT reported 29,091 active free Wi-Fi points across 11,839—sorry, I stand corrected—11,836 locations as of July 2026. The Free Public Internet Access Program has 5 billion pesos in automatic appropriations for fiscal year 2027.

**[01:56:00.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001235)  
Our digital government infrastructure is also operating at a significant scale. The eGov PH application has surpassed 61 million downloads

**[01:56:10.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001245)  
and 56 million verified accounts, while eGov DX has

**[01:56:19.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001255)  
processed more than 1.2 billion transactions and integrated over 1,300 government e-services.

**[01:56:30.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001264)  
Cybersecurity, the National Security Operations Center, has expanded its coverage from 10 government agencies in 2022 to 99 agencies as of August 2026, monitoring approximately 6.7 billion security alerts.

**[01:56:48.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001265)  
But as we support these investments, we must also look closely at implementation. DICT's fiscal year 2025 obligation rate was 61.7%, leaving approximately 9.16 billion in unused appropriations.

**[01:57:09.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001266)  
For the ICT Systems and Information Infrastructure Program, obligation was 43.5%. Disbursement was 22.6%.

**[01:57:18.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001267)  
These figures remind us that the measure of budget is not only what we appropriate, but what is actually delivered.

**[01:57:27.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001268)  
And while we recognize the progress made, we also recognize that there are many shortcomings still, not only in cybersecurity, but also in combating fake news and other areas of digital safety and governance.

**[01:57:41.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001269)  
These are challenges that will require continued work and scrutiny.

**[01:57:48.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001273)  
And while many may look at it as an opportunity to reduce funding for the agency, I see this as a challenge to increase funding where it is critically necessary.

**[01:57:57.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001274)  
These programs are of the utmost importance for the development of our country in this new age of innovation, AI, cybersecurity, and other threats.

**[01:58:10.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001275)  
So, Madam Speaker, with that, we are ready to take the questions of our distinguished colleagues, and I thank you.

**[01:58:16.360] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001276)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:58:21.740] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001277)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal of BH Party-list to interpellate on the proposed budget.

**[01:58:38.640] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-001278)  
Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[01:58:44.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001279)  
Good evening, Madam Chair.

**[01:58:46.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001280)  
Good evening to my distinguished colleague.

**[01:58:50.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001281)  
Good evening.

**[01:58:51.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001282)  
And good evening to the DICT.

**[01:58:54.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001283)  
On the mandate of DICT, distinguished colleague, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Chair, I want to start with DICT's mandate.

**[01:59:06.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001284)  
DICT is supposed to lead our national ICT agenda.

**[01:59:09.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001285)  
And under Republic Act 12254,

**[01:59:16.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001286)  
we have an even bigger responsibility for whole of government digitalization and interoperability.

**[01:59:26.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001287)  
Madam Chair, distinguished colleague, Mr. Secretary, are you actually fulfilling that mandate?

**[01:59:34.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001288)  
And how?

**[01:59:36.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001289)  
Because DICT should be more than Wi-Fi and connectivity.

**[01:59:40.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001290)  
You should also make sure that government uses technology efficiently.

**[01:59:46.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001291)  
For example, are we oversubscribed in cloud services?

**[01:59:52.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001292)  
Do you know how much cloud capacity government is paying?

**[01:59:57.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001293)  
Paying for versus actual average and peak?

**[02:00:00.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001294)  
What about internet services? Are we paying for more bandwidth than government actually uses?

**[02:00:11.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001295)  
During our previous hearing, you told us Republic Act 12254 could save government at least 30% by eliminating repetitive common systems and subscriptions.

**[02:00:24.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001296)  
Have you already identified these duplications? How much can government actually save? And when will we see those savings?

**[02:00:35.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001297)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Those are very valid questions from my colleague. Let's go through it one by one very quickly.

**[02:00:44.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001298)  
So yes, Madam Speaker, DICT is implementing its mandate beyond the connectivity and moving towards a whole of government.

**[02:00:54.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001299)  
And that is currently being implemented through the DICT and its attached agencies.

**[02:01:06.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001300)  
For fiscal year 2027 alone, the department targets integration of 40 agencies with the Citizen Frontline Delivery Services Platform,

**[02:01:16.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001301)  
30 agencies, each of which with HCMIS and IFMIS, and 30 agencies with OFMIS.

**[02:01:24.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001302)  
And that includes the Online Public Service Portal and Procurement Systems.

**[02:01:28.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001303)  
Regarding the concern on cloud and bandwidth and other common ICT requirements,

**[02:01:34.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001304)  
the objective of e-Government Act is precisely to give government greater visibility over what common requirements exist

**[02:01:42.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001305)  
and to avoid paying repeatedly for the same capabilities.

**[02:01:46.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001306)  
So the management mechanism that we have here, and its ability to validate across

**[02:01:54.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001307)  
450 national agencies for compliance, is established within the eGov portfolio.

**[02:01:59.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001308)  
But we should not complain or I mean we should not claim, sorry, rather, that DICT is oversubscribed in terms of its cloud or bandwidth

**[02:02:10.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001309)  
because the submissions presently available to DICT do not yet establish government-wide average and peak utilization

**[02:02:18.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001310)  
across or against total contracted capacity.

**[02:02:22.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001311)  
So with that, we can...

**[02:02:24.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001312)  
We can commit to Congress to establish that a baseline through the inventory, portfolio management,

**[02:02:29.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001313)  
and interoperability mechanisms are being implemented under RA 12254.

**[02:02:36.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001314)  
The 30% figure that my colleague brought up, Madam Speaker, is a very valid number to bring up

**[02:02:42.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001315)  
because we did make that commitment.

**[02:02:45.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001316)  
And the figure, therefore, should be treated at this stage as a potential cost avoidance estimate

**[02:02:52.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001317)  
from eliminating duplicative...

**[02:02:54.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001318)  
...common systems and subscriptions, not yet as realized savings.

**[02:03:00.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001319)  
So really, this is the target that we hope to hit.

**[02:03:04.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001320)  
And yes, as of the last committee hearing that we had, Madam Speaker,

**[02:03:09.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001321)  
I do remember that the DICT is actively identifying where those duplications exist

**[02:03:15.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001322)  
and we're progressively moving towards a consolidated system, common ICT investments,

**[02:03:22.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001323)  
as agencies transition.

**[02:03:24.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001324)  
So I believe that we're really targeting that by the end of this administration,

**[02:03:32.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001325)  
we have a more centralized EGov system.

**[02:03:37.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001326)  
I hope that answers my colleague's questions.

**[02:03:39.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001327)  
Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Chair.

**[02:03:42.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001328)  
Do we already have a number on the target in terms of the 30% savings that we will generate?

**[02:03:49.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001329)  
Do we already have a figure?

**[02:03:52.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001330)  
Madam Speaker, may I clarify?

**[02:03:53.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001331)  
A number on how much?

**[02:03:54.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001332)  
How much has been saved already?

**[02:03:55.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001333)  
Yes.

**[02:03:56.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001334)  
Let me get back to you on that.

**[02:04:01.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001335)  
Madam Speaker, the DICT's claim is that they don't have a set number yet,

**[02:04:09.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001336)  
although they are studying it.

**[02:04:11.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001337)  
Is there a target number in terms of savings?

**[02:04:16.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001338)  
For this year or for fiscal year 2027?

**[02:04:19.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001339)  
For this year.

**[02:04:21.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001340)  
For this year.

**[02:04:21.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001341)  
And fiscal year 2027.

**[02:04:24.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001342)  
But that's for this.

**[02:04:35.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001343)  
But for this year, we'll allow it.

**[02:04:38.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001344)  
Okay.

**[02:04:39.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001345)  
Because this is a new law, a newly passed law,

**[02:04:43.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001346)  
the actual estimated savings are for fiscal year 2027,

**[02:04:47.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001347)  
and we're looking at, if I'm not mistaken, 15 billion pesos in estimated savings

**[02:04:53.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001348)  
by removing

**[02:04:53.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001349)  
By removing these duplications.

**[02:04:56.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001350)  
Are we also looking at using AI to monitor all these systems?

**[02:05:04.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001351)  
So that...

**[02:05:05.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001352)  
Madam Speaker, DICT can confirm that we are using AI.

**[02:05:12.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001353)  
Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[02:05:15.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001354)  
I'll go to my next question.

**[02:05:18.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001355)  
Madam Chair, Madam Speaker, during the previous hearing,

**[02:05:21.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001356)  
Distinguished Sponsor, I also raised that the DICT has a 9% obligation rate.

**[02:05:29.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001357)  
We are told now that this has improved to around 27%.

**[02:05:33.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001358)  
Is this correct?

**[02:05:36.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001359)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, I can confirm we've increased to 27%.

**[02:05:40.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001360)  
So, okay naman po na hindi na 9%.

**[02:05:43.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001361)  
27% na, pero I hope we shouldn't be happy with this, no?

**[02:05:50.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001362)  
This is still very low.

**[02:05:51.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001363)  
May I ask, why, what is stopping us from improving on the 27%?

**[02:05:59.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001364)  
Ano ba ang problema natin?

**[02:06:00.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001365)  
Madam Speaker, I completely agree with my colleague.

**[02:06:03.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001366)  
27% is not something to celebrate,

**[02:06:05.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001367)  
especially when there are so many other agencies that need funding.

**[02:06:09.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001368)  
But it is an improvement.

**[02:06:10.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001369)  
And I'll list down the things that are making it difficult.

**[02:06:15.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001370)  
One is procurement delays.

**[02:06:16.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001371)  
Two is the technical complexity of what DICT's management,

**[02:06:21.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001372)  
mandate, puts them in charge of.

**[02:06:24.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001373)  
Three is the timing of the release of funds.

**[02:06:27.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001374)  
Many of the releases were quite late this year for DICT.

**[02:06:30.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001375)  
And so, many of the funds are just now being released.

**[02:06:35.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001376)  
We also have a limited specialized manpower.

**[02:06:38.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001377)  
Unlike many other agencies, DICT requires a lot of specialized manpower, Madam Speaker.

**[02:06:45.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001378)  
And with that, we actually do need to increase the manpower of the agency

**[02:06:50.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001379)  
in order to...

**[02:06:51.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001380)  
...increase its absorptive capacity and the services it provides.

**[02:06:56.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001381)  
Lastly, PDIP had two unsuccessful biddings and had to restructure its major procurement package.

**[02:07:05.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001382)  
And all of that combined leads to 27%.

**[02:07:09.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001383)  
What obligation rate, Mr. Sponsor, are we looking at for December 31?

**[02:07:21.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001384)  
Madam Speaker, the agency is optimistically pointing out that we're looking at 90% completion by December.

**[02:07:38.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001385)  
So, are we saying that considering what you've mentioned, Madam Chair and Mr. Sponsor,

**[02:07:47.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001386)  
maaayos na po natin yung procurement issues,

**[02:07:50.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001387)  
all the funnels,

**[02:07:51.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001388)  
kung saan po tayo nagkaka-roadblock?

**[02:07:54.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001389)  
In terms of technical manpower,

**[02:07:57.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001390)  
we will have all the technical manpower prior to that?

**[02:08:03.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001391)  
Just to clarify the target,

**[02:08:06.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001392)  
as of today, we're at 35% already.

**[02:08:09.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001393)  
As of today.

**[02:08:11.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001394)  
And we are expecting how much? 90?

**[02:08:13.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001395)  
90%.

**[02:08:14.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001396)  
And if you think about it,

**[02:08:16.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001397)  
when we had the initial data to today,

**[02:08:18.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001398)  
we already moved up 9%.

**[02:08:21.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001399)  
More or less.

**[02:08:23.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001400)  
If we continue at this rate,

**[02:08:24.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001401)  
we could possibly hit our target of 90%.

**[02:08:27.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001402)  
One of the things that the agency had to deal with

**[02:08:30.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001403)  
was really just waiting for the download of funding.

**[02:08:34.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001404)  
And so, there was time to already streamline some of the processes

**[02:08:38.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001405)  
for the release of these funds and the activation on the ground.

**[02:08:42.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001406)  
So, what you're saying, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

**[02:08:46.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001407)  
is that maayos na po tayo in terms of the procurement process

**[02:08:50.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001408)  
and all the technical manpower.

**[02:08:51.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001409)  
But our main problem right now is the DBM.

**[02:08:56.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001410)  
And how long, and kailan natin natatanggap yung pera?

**[02:09:01.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001411)  
Is this correct?

**[02:09:10.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001412)  
The reason why is not necessarily DBM.

**[02:09:15.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001413)  
It turns out it's because the awarding of major projects

**[02:09:17.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001414)  
to the DICT

**[02:09:21.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001415)  
will take place within this quarter.

**[02:09:23.940] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001416)  
So, once those have been awarded already,

**[02:09:25.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001417)  
that would be immediately dispersed.

**[02:09:27.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001418)  
But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the DBM.

**[02:09:30.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001419)  
When were these projects supposed to be procured?

**[02:09:35.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001420)  
When did they start?

**[02:09:49.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001421)  
But when did it start?

**[02:09:51.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001422)  
At the start of the year

**[02:10:14.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001426)  
So, PDIP, which constitutes 4 billion pesos, Madam Speaker,

**[02:10:20.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001427)  
is a big chunk of it.

**[02:10:21.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001428)  
And the reason why it was delayed

**[02:10:22.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001429)  
was because earlier this year, dear colleague,

**[02:10:26.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001430)  
they actually had a failed bidding.

**[02:10:28.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001431)  
So, now it's proceeding, but it's proceeding in October.

**[02:10:32.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001432)  
So, that's why the 4 billion will be released quite later.

**[02:10:35.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001433)  
But this was a project procurement for 2026 or 2025?

**[02:10:40.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001434)  
It's a continuing from 2025 to 2026.

**[02:10:44.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001435)  
Okay.

**[02:10:45.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001436)  
Let me go to my next question.

**[02:10:48.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001437)  
Having said that,

**[02:10:50.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001438)  
DICT's

**[02:10:51.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001439)  
absorptive capacity remains a problem,

**[02:10:54.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001440)  
I also want to be fair to the agency.

**[02:10:58.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001441)  
Hindi lahat ng hindi nababayaran ay necessarily Absorptive Capacity problem.

**[02:11:04.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001442)  
DICT's September 15 submission says

**[02:11:07.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001443)  
that as of August 31,

**[02:11:10.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001444)  
you had approximately 1.29 billion in accounts payable.

**[02:11:16.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001445)  
Of that, approximately 1.049 billion pertains to

**[02:11:21.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001446)  
valid and duly supported obligations from 2024 and 2025

**[02:11:26.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001447)  
that are already due and demandable.

**[02:11:30.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001448)  
You also say additional NCA from DBM is needed to settle these obligations.

**[02:11:36.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001449)  
So, for this 1.049 billion,

**[02:11:40.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001450)  
is the problem now lack of cash authority from DBM

**[02:11:44.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001451)  
rather than lack of appropriation?

**[02:11:51.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001452)  
How much additional NCA do you need today to settle all valid, due, and demandable obligations?

**[02:12:07.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001454)  
Yes, I can confirm that there is a payable of 1.049 billion and this, actually, we do need an additional allocation.

**[02:12:20.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001455)  
In order to pay for.

**[02:12:24.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001456)  
And these are considered as milestone payments, Madam Speaker.

**[02:12:32.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001457)  
So, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker,

**[02:12:38.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001458)  
if these are already valid, duly supported, and due and demandable obligations,

**[02:12:43.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001459)  
and DICT submits the complete requirements,

**[02:12:46.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001460)  
ang assumption po natin dito is complete na yung requirements nito.

**[02:12:50.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001461)  
Everything is complete.

**[02:12:54.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001462)  
So, Madam Speaker, I can confirm that all the requirements needed to request for additional funding for NCA from DBM

**[02:13:01.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001463)  
is complete and it's actually subject for approval already.

**[02:13:06.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001464)  
So, what is the reason?

**[02:13:08.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001465)  
What are they saying is the reason why hindi pa ito nababayaran?

**[02:13:14.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001466)  
Bakit po?

**[02:13:15.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001467)  
What is the reason for the delay?

**[02:13:18.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001468)  
Why is there no NCA?

**[02:13:45.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001479)  
Could you pause my time, please?

**[02:13:48.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001480)  
Okay.

**[02:13:48.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001481)  
The documents were submitted first semester of this year—sorry, third quarter of this year, dear colleague.

**[02:13:57.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001482)  
So that probably explains why until now the release has not yet been approved.

**[02:14:02.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001483)  
So that's what I do not understand.

**[02:14:06.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001484)  
Bakit po inabot tayo ng third quarter of this year to complete the requirements for something that is due and demandable since 2024?

**[02:14:15.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001485)  
Can you make me understand?

**[02:14:34.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001489)  
Why? Why wasn't it submitted? We already knew that this was going to be a project.

**[02:14:45.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001492)  
So it turns out that

**[02:14:48.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001494)  
The reason why there was a delay in the submission of the necessary documents was they needed to compile the requirements from the suppliers, etc.

**[02:14:57.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001495)  
And they were only able to do so later this year.

**[02:15:00.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001496)  
So, the delay is a mix of agency as well as suppliers.

**[02:15:11.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001497)  
What I cannot understand is that the DICT should be the number one digital agency in our country.

**[02:15:21.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001498)  
Kayo po ang lead sa lahat.

**[02:15:24.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001499)  
So, dapat po, kung meron man madi-delay, hindi po dapat kayo.

**[02:15:28.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001500)  
Dear colleague, I completely understand where you're coming from.

**[02:15:32.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001501)  
If there's any agency that should move quickly on a digitalized procurement and documentation process, it should be the DICT.

**[02:15:41.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001502)  
So, I believe I can get a commitment from the agency that they will improve their procurement processes.

**[02:15:48.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001503)  
Saka po, you know, distinguished sponsor, you know how easy it is now to review everything. We have AI.

**[02:15:57.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001504)  
But I hope...

**[02:15:58.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001505)  
I know that the DICT is going to work towards better digitalization in terms of its bureaucracy.

**[02:16:05.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001506)  
Pero sana din pati yung suppliers ng DICT, dito tayo abot sa compatibility ng data.

**[02:16:13.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001507)  
So, sana yung mga suppliers din ng DICT are up to standard in terms of their digitization para wala ng bottleneck.

**[02:16:20.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001508)  
Yes, I agree.

**[02:16:21.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001509)  
But of course, my understanding is that if you look at the way the DICT is paying,

**[02:16:28.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001510)  
walang supplier na magsusurvive sa ganitong sitwasyon.

**[02:16:34.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001511)  
So, the suppliers are effectively front-loading everything.

**[02:16:41.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001512)  
Madam Speaker, I understand that this disincentivizes some of our suppliers and potential investors

**[02:16:50.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001513)  
if this is how our lead digital agency deals with its documentation and disbursement processes.

**[02:16:56.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001514)  
But rest assured,

**[02:16:58.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001515)  
Madam Speaker, within this year, this outstanding balance should be settled by the DICT.

**[02:17:11.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001516)  
Madam Speaker, if I may also note that 90% of cash downloaded by the DBM has already been utilized.

**[02:17:19.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001517)  
So, it's really just a question of whether or not the funding is downloaded.

**[02:17:24.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001518)  
Once it is, it's immediately utilized by the agency.

**[02:17:27.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001519)  
So, it's really a factor.

**[02:17:28.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001520)  
So, it's really a funding issue.

**[02:17:31.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001521)  
Yeah, I would say that a big chunk of it would be.

**[02:17:36.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001522)  
And I hope that this can be streamlined on the agency side.

**[02:17:41.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001523)  
So, let us now go to earmarked funds.

**[02:17:47.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001524)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[02:17:51.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001525)  
separate from the regular budget of DICT,

**[02:17:56.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001526)  
ano naman ang absorptive capacity?

**[02:17:58.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001527)  
ng DICT when it comes to earmarked funds?

**[02:18:06.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001528)  
Lagi kasi namin kayong pinaglalaban because digitalization needs money.

**[02:18:12.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001529)  
And I know that.

**[02:18:13.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001530)  
And if we should be spending on anything, it should be, we should prioritize the digital infrastructure.

**[02:18:21.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001531)  
Pero kung may malaking problema, yung earmarked balance naman at hindi ninyo nagagastos, ano ba ang problema?

**[02:18:28.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001532)  
In terms of the earmarked funds, Madam Speaker, we're talking about the free Wi-Fi.

**[02:18:37.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001533)  
And that's at 61% in terms of utilization.

**[02:18:44.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001534)  
So, that speaks to the absorptive capacity of the agency to be able to utilize the earmarked funds.

**[02:18:51.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001535)  
But yes, 61%.

**[02:18:52.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001536)  
And that is what I cannot reconcile, Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[02:18:58.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001537)  
Twelve digital systems hosted on the E-Gov PH were temporarily disabled

**[02:19:05.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001538)  
because DICT could not pay for cloud server space.

**[02:19:10.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001539)  
Twelve government systems went down.

**[02:19:14.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001540)  
So, meron kayong pera.

**[02:19:16.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001541)  
Paano po nangyari ito?

**[02:19:17.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001542)  
Ano ba nangyari talaga?

**[02:19:19.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001543)  
Can you explain?

**[02:19:21.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001544)  
How much was unpaid?

**[02:19:24.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001545)  
To whom?

**[02:19:25.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001546)  
How long were the systems down?

**[02:19:26.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001547)  
Down.

**[02:19:27.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001548)  
And was this all...

**[02:19:28.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001549)  
It's also an NCA problem.

**[02:19:47.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001550)  
Yung time,

**[02:19:49.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001551)  
It went down because, Madam Speaker, dear colleague, we had a surge of 700% in terms of its use.

**[02:19:57.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001552)  
So, the systems weren't...

**[02:19:58.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001553)  
We weren't able to handle that much.

**[02:20:02.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001554)  
And therefore, the systems went down for a short period of time.

**[02:20:10.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001555)  
Madam Speaker, it was only down for five hours on day one and six hours on day two.

**[02:20:21.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001556)  
But this is definitely because no one was able to predict a 700% surge in the use.

**[02:20:29.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001557)  
Paano po ba nangyari yung surge?

**[02:20:33.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001558)  
I mean, during that day or the day before that or the month before, ilan na ba yung gumagamit?

**[02:20:50.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001559)  
So, was it only on that day na talagang nagkaroon ng surge?

**[02:20:55.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001560)  
And the capacity could not absorb it?

**[02:20:57.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001561)  
Madam Speaker, it...

**[02:20:58.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001562)  
It turns...

**[02:20:59.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001563)  
Mr. Speaker, it turns out that the cloud services ended up running out of credits because of the overuse.

**[02:21:10.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001564)  
And that's how we ended up with that surge.

**[02:21:14.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001565)  
Running out of credit.

**[02:21:16.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001566)  
So, that means, hindi po natin...

**[02:21:18.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001567)  
We didn't have enough cash or money allotted for the capacity.

**[02:21:25.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001568)  
We didn't, Madam Speaker...

**[02:21:28.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001569)  
We didn't have enough budget enough for the surge that basically no one within the agency predicted that there would be a 700% surge in the use.

**[02:21:38.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001570)  
And therefore, the cloud services that were contracted weren't enough.

**[02:21:42.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001571)  
And therefore, we needed to procure more in order to adapt to the capacity required.

**[02:21:49.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001572)  
So, that's where I'm puzzled, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[02:21:56.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001575)  
Nag-down ang 12 government systems dahil kulang tayo sa pambayad sa cloud.

**[02:22:04.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001576)  
But you have earmarked revenues.

**[02:22:08.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001577)  
Meron po kayong pera na dapat kayo mismo ay may access doon at madali niyong magamit.

**[02:22:15.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001578)  
And this is for free Wi-Fi and for our cloud services.

**[02:22:19.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001579)  
Yes.

**[02:22:20.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001580)  
Madam Speaker, regarding that concern, that's correct that there are earmarked funds.

**[02:22:25.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001581)  
I don't...

**[02:22:27.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001582)  
All of it?

**[02:22:31.290] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001582-split-2)  
Right.

**[02:22:34.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001583)  
So, it's not included in the earmarked funds as part of the automatic use.

**[02:22:41.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001584)  
So, for data, we're unable to use those earmarked funds in order to fund cloud data.

**[02:22:48.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001585)  
Are we expecting this to happen again?

**[02:22:51.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001586)  
Or do we have enough funds already and credits, so-called credits, to cover any surge in the future?

**[02:22:57.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001587)  
And do...

**[02:22:58.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001588)  
Do we have access to the earmarked funds para hindi na ito mangyari ulit?

**[02:23:02.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001589)  
So based on the eGov law, Madam Speaker, we do have enough funds to maintain.

**[02:23:11.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001590)  
But that doesn't necessarily mean that we are at optimal.

**[02:23:15.900] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001591)  
If I'm not mistaken, the budget that we're being given for these cloud services...

**[02:23:21.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001592)  
I mean, for our data services is about 949 million.

**[02:23:26.080] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001593)  
For the indulgence of...

**[02:23:27.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001595)  
For the honorable Nazal, if he could kindly wind up.

**[02:23:32.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001596)  
Right.

**[02:23:33.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001597)  
So, 949 million for eGov.

**[02:23:35.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001598)  
But the reality is, we actually need additional funds for redundancies.

**[02:23:41.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001599)  
We need additional funds for emergency systems, which we don't have currently.

**[02:23:48.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001600)  
So, if you're wondering why there's a risk of it going down,

**[02:23:51.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001601)  
it's partly because we're underfunding this specific program.

**[02:23:54.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001602)  
But the law does provide for the bare minimum required.

**[02:23:57.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001603)  
to operate and maintain eGov.

**[02:24:00.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001604)  
So, what is the funding actually needed for us to be able to support?

**[02:24:10.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001605)  
The request is 1.8 billion, Madam Speaker.

**[02:24:15.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001606)  
So, bakit pa po natin kunin ito sa USF?

**[02:24:20.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001607)  
Um...

**[02:24:22.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001608)  
Because...

**[02:24:24.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001609)  
...

**[02:24:27.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001610)  
Well, that's a very valid point that the USF could possibly be used,

**[02:24:36.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001611)  
or earmarked funds could possibly be used for cloud services.

**[02:24:39.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001612)  
However, unfortunately, that is not within the purview of the agency to decide that.

**[02:24:45.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001613)  
I believe that is a call of the DBM, if I'm not mistaken, Madam Speaker.

**[02:24:50.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001614)  
Okay.

**[02:24:53.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001615)  
Maybe due to lack of time, I just have to bring this up.

**[02:24:58.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001616)  
During our previous hearing also, we already discussed that much of the government data is hosted abroad.

**[02:25:03.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001617)  
And that DICT needs local availability zones or data centers.

**[02:25:08.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001618)  
Hindi ko na po ulitin yun.

**[02:25:09.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001619)  
Ang follow-up ko lang, kailan matatapos ang migration?

**[02:25:18.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001620)  
What percentage of critical government data and workloads will be locally hosted by end of November 26?

**[02:25:25.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001621)  
By end of November 2027?

**[02:25:27.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001622)  
And when will migration be substantially completed?

**[02:25:34.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001623)  
By the end of this year, we're looking at 20% of critical government data would be localized.

**[02:25:40.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001624)  
We currently have one server that is up in Subic.

**[02:25:46.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001625)  
One data center that's up in Subic.

**[02:25:48.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001626)  
And we're hoping that we'll be able to localize our government data all by 2028.

**[02:25:55.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001627)  
That's the goal, Madam Speaker.

**[02:25:57.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001628)  
And how much is needed to localize everything by 2028?

**[02:26:05.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001629)  
Based on the feasibility studies, DICT is projecting 8 billion in costs, Madam Speaker.

**[02:26:19.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001630)  
Madam Chair, Distinguished Sponsor, I go back to where I started.

**[02:26:25.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001631)  
DICT's mandate is much bigger than Wi-Fi.

**[02:26:27.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001636)  
connectivity, computers and subscriptions.

**[02:26:31.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001637)  
DICT is supposed to lead the digital transformation of government.

**[02:26:36.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001638)  
That means efficient ICT spending, reliable e-gov systems, interoperable databases,

**[02:26:42.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001639)  
trusted digital identity, transparent government processes,

**[02:26:47.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001640)  
and public spending that citizens can digitally trace.

**[02:26:52.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001641)  
Lagi naman natin pinaglalaban na mabigyan kayo ng sapat na resources ang DICT,

**[02:26:57.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-001642)  
Because digitalization is essential. But if you need more money, tell Congress exactly what you need and what it will deliver. And if the money is already available, particularly from earmarked resources, then we need to understand why it is not being converted into reliable government services. Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[02:27:19.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001643)  
Madam Speaker, I want to thank our colleague for his constructive questions. They're very valid and they really point to the needs of the agency.

**[02:27:35.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001644)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:27:37.280] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001645)  
To further interpellate on the proposed budget, Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the representative of Kabataan Party-list,

**[02:27:49.840] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-001646)  
Representative Renee Louise Co.

**[02:27:54.160] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001647)  
Honorable Renee Louise Co of Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

**[02:28:00.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001648)  
Thank you, Madam Chair. And good evening to our distinguished sponsor and to DICT.

**[02:28:07.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001649)  
So may this distinguished sponsor yield to a couple of questions regarding the budget of DICT?

**[02:28:18.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001650)  
Madam Speaker, it would be my privilege.

**[02:28:19.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001651)  
It would be my privilege to answer the questions of my dear colleague.

**[02:28:23.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001652)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:28:25.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001653)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, my first line of questioning would be in relation to the free public internet access program,

**[02:28:34.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001654)  
which this representation thanks the DICT for the report that it has provided,

**[02:28:40.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001655)  
giving more detail as to which locations, which schools, which SUCs have already,

**[02:28:49.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001656)  
established connections for free public internet access, and which ones are yet to be established.

**[02:28:58.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001657)  
So we've noted that for basic and secondary public educational institutions,

**[02:29:08.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001658)  
there are more unconnected public schools in Region 5, more than in other regions.

**[02:29:16.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001659)  
May we ask, perhaps, why this is so?

**[02:29:19.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001660)  
Is there a greater difficulty in accessing regions or locations in Region 5, for example?

**[02:29:34.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001661)  
So it's actually not necessarily a technical difficulty.

**[02:29:39.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001662)  
It's more of a prioritization from DepEd on which areas would receive, I guess, the services first and get connected.

**[02:29:49.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001663)  
So is it to say that there's no one explanation as to why there's this number of unconnected public schools?

**[02:30:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001665)  
So, we just noted that in Region 5, there's 70 locations that are being targeted to put up an internet connection or a free internet connection for, which is more than the other regions.

**[02:30:16.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001666)  
For example, the next region which has more number of locations na kailangan ng connection would be already NIR at 38.

**[02:30:28.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001667)  
So, yung 70 ng Region 5, it just stands out. So, meron po bang particular reason? If any, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:30:46.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001668)  
Okay. So, out of the 45,000 target schools of DepEd, 11,000 were connected by DICT.

**[02:30:54.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001669)  
However, the remaining were supposedly already connected by...

**[02:30:58.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001670)  
So, parang may connection na po. Ganon. So, hindi priority.

**[02:31:03.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001671)  
There should be a connection. Although, what I know, dear colleague, is that there are some areas wherein they were connected and now there are problems with connection.

**[02:31:13.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001672)  
And there are other areas from based on testimonies I've heard in which they don't have connection or are requesting for connection still.

**[02:31:21.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001673)  
So, while the numbers reported to us is that on paper, we know that we have high connectivity.

**[02:31:28.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001674)  
And that there are several areas that have been connected and we're...

**[02:31:31.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001675)  
What's the DepEd number? We're at 90%?

**[02:31:36.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001676)  
We're at 99.39% in terms of connectivity.

**[02:31:41.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001677)  
However, and this is where I need the help of my colleagues as well as the other members who are present.

**[02:31:48.940] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001678)  
If you could give me a list of all the schools that don't have access, aren't connected, or were connected and lost their connection,

**[02:31:57.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001690)  
And I would gladly work with my colleague to call the attention of DICT to make sure that these areas are reconnected or are connected as per the mandate of DICT.

**[02:32:08.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001691)  
Thank you for that opening, Madam Speaker.

**[02:32:11.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001692)  
Good sponsor.

**[02:32:12.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001693)  
At the proper time, this representation would also like to submit any of the information and requests that it has gathered regarding that.

**[02:32:22.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001694)  
But in relation to that point, at ito rin po yung nakalagay sa report na,

**[02:32:28.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001695)  
na ilahad ng DICT that the NEP for fiscal year 2027 provides for the maintenance and operation of more than 16,000 free Wi-Fi locations established in 2026.

**[02:32:41.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001696)  
But to ensure the continued availability of free Wi-Fi in public schools, an additional 3 billion is necessary for the maintenance and operation of existing school sites.

**[02:32:52.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001697)  
At iba pa yung tier 2 budget request na 10 billion plus for the expansion of free Wi-Fi to other priorities.

**[02:32:58.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001698)  
public service locations. So to clarify

**[02:33:00.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001699)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, itong

**[02:33:02.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001700)  
3 billion, additional 3 billion

**[02:33:04.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001701)  
for the continued

**[02:33:06.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001702)  
availability, hindi pa po ito granted?

**[02:33:09.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001703)  
Yes.

**[02:33:10.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001704)  
Hindi pa.

**[02:33:11.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001705)  
Hindi pa granted because the only thing that I'm sure

**[02:33:14.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001706)  
will be granted

**[02:33:16.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001707)  
is the continuing appropriation

**[02:33:18.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001708)  
from the spectrum user fee, which

**[02:33:20.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001709)  
is the earmark fund for free WiFi.

**[02:33:23.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001710)  
But the additional funds,

**[02:33:24.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001711)  
the request, the 3 billion,

**[02:33:26.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001712)  
will have to come from us

**[02:33:28.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001713)  
allocating it in the

**[02:33:30.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001714)  
GAA. But to be

**[02:33:32.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001715)  
clear, the reason why we have that increase

**[02:33:34.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001716)  
is because as we increase our connections,

**[02:33:37.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001717)  
of course the maintenance of these

**[02:33:38.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001718)  
connections will require an additional

**[02:33:40.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001719)  
fund, which was not available from

**[02:33:42.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001720)  
the earmark previous. So

**[02:33:44.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001721)  
hopefully we're able to get that. But the

**[02:33:46.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001722)  
expansion is necessary. So

**[02:33:48.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001723)  
on the DepEd level, ang commitment is

**[02:33:50.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001724)  
that na mga elementary schools

**[02:33:52.940] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001725)  
would be connected. Pero

**[02:33:54.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001726)  
hindi pa kasama yung mga

**[02:33:56.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001727)  
universities,

**[02:33:58.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001728)  
SUCs.

**[02:34:00.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001729)  
So that's yung expansion na kailangan natin.

**[02:34:03.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001730)  
So yung mga iba na may complaint na wala

**[02:34:04.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001731)  
pa silang connection sa kanilang

**[02:34:06.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001732)  
eskwelahan, lalo na pag university, state,

**[02:34:09.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001733)  
universities or colleges,

**[02:34:10.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001734)  
yun yung dahilan. Kasi kailangan pa natin

**[02:34:12.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001735)  
ng budget para ma-expand ng

**[02:34:14.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001736)  
programa. Madam Speaker,

**[02:34:16.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001737)  
good sponsor, dahil landmark essentially

**[02:34:18.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001738)  
yung pag-establish

**[02:34:20.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001739)  
ng connectivity

**[02:34:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001740)  
in these schools,

**[02:34:25.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001741)  
but dahil hindi

**[02:34:26.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001742)  
granted as of now

**[02:34:28.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001743)  
itong 3 billion for the

**[02:34:30.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001744)  
maintenance and operation of existing

**[02:34:31.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001745)  
school sites, kung hindi po mag-grant

**[02:34:34.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001746)  
itong 3 billion na ito, ano pong

**[02:34:35.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001747)  
mangyayari sa connectivity ng

**[02:34:37.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001748)  
schools na na-establish

**[02:34:40.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001749)  
na noong 2026?

**[02:34:47.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001750)  
Tama po ba yung

**[02:34:48.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001751)  
intindi natin, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:34:50.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001752)  
na hindi po ito matutuloy

**[02:34:52.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001753)  
or ano pong

**[02:34:54.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001754)  
mangyayari?

**[02:35:01.900] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001757)  
Okay, so to clarify,

**[02:35:14.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001758)  
the 3 billion, while ideal

**[02:35:16.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001759)  
that we're able to grant it through

**[02:35:18.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001760)  
legislation for the GAA,

**[02:35:20.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001761)  
should there not be an allocation

**[02:35:22.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001762)  
from the GAA, it now

**[02:35:24.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001763)  
falls upon the DBM,

**[02:35:26.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001764)  
to release additional funding from

**[02:35:28.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001765)  
the SUF,

**[02:35:29.900] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001766)  
and earmark that for the

**[02:35:32.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001767)  
continuation of the free Wi-Fi program.

**[02:35:34.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001768)  
However, if we are able to

**[02:35:36.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001769)  
provide the 3 billion, then

**[02:35:37.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001770)  
technically, we don't have to dig

**[02:35:40.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001771)  
into the SUF anymore.

**[02:35:42.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001772)  
Remember, that's our contingency fund for

**[02:35:44.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001773)  
free Wi-Fi, and our goal

**[02:35:46.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001774)  
here is not just to maintain

**[02:35:48.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001775)  
the existing sites, but to expand

**[02:35:50.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001776)  
free connectivity para sa mga

**[02:35:52.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001777)  
kababayan natin.

**[02:35:54.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001778)  
For this representation,

**[02:35:56.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001779)  
and the public's

**[02:35:57.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001780)  
purpose, ano po ang SUF?

**[02:36:02.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001781)  
Oh, I apologize.

**[02:36:04.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001782)  
The SUF is the spectrum user fee.

**[02:36:06.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001783)  
This is the minimal fee

**[02:36:08.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001784)  
that is automatically collected from

**[02:36:10.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001785)  
telcos, and

**[02:36:12.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001786)  
contributes to our free Wi-Fi.

**[02:36:14.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001787)  
And how much po ba

**[02:36:15.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001788)  
ang nasa

**[02:36:18.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001789)  
SUF ngayon na pwedeng

**[02:36:20.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001790)  
makuha itong

**[02:36:22.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001791)  
3 billion, at hindi magkukulang

**[02:36:24.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001792)  
para po sa

**[02:36:26.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001793)  
purposes of continuous

**[02:36:27.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001794)  
connectivity ng schools?

**[02:36:30.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001795)  
As of June

**[02:36:31.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001796)  
2026,

**[02:36:35.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001797)  
we have

**[02:36:35.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001798)  
22 billion,

**[02:36:37.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001799)  
303 million,

**[02:36:39.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001800)  
304,367 pesos,

**[02:36:43.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001801)  
and 28 centavos.

**[02:36:46.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001802)  
At kung hindi po nakuha yung

**[02:36:47.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001803)  
Tier 2 budget request for the expansion

**[02:36:49.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001804)  
of free Wi-Fi to other priority public

**[02:36:51.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001805)  
service locations,

**[02:36:53.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001806)  
ano pong implication ito for

**[02:36:55.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001807)  
2027?

**[02:36:57.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001808)  
There will be

**[02:36:59.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001809)  
lesser expansion than expected?

**[02:37:02.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001810)  
Pwede rin po bang kumuha

**[02:37:04.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001811)  
sa SUF para po

**[02:37:05.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001812)  
makamit yung mga targets for expansion

**[02:37:08.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001813)  
na

**[02:37:09.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001814)  
10 plus 10 billion,

**[02:37:11.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001815)  
55, ay 500 million plus

**[02:37:14.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001816)  
ang kailangan?

**[02:37:16.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001817)  
What I'm being told

**[02:37:17.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001818)  
by the DICT is that

**[02:37:19.940] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001819)  
it can actually be used

**[02:37:21.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001820)  
for the expansion.

**[02:37:23.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001821)  
But two things to consider.

**[02:37:25.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001822)  
One is that

**[02:37:26.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001823)  
siyempre ang DBM may final say

**[02:37:29.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001824)  
kung lalabas itong pondo

**[02:37:31.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001825)  
for the expansion.

**[02:37:33.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001826)  
And second consideration is, remember,

**[02:37:35.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001827)  
sabihin natin na nag-expand tayo

**[02:37:37.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001828)  
and our yearly cost goes up to

**[02:37:39.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001829)  
10 billion, right?

**[02:37:41.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001830)  
That means that the SUF that we

**[02:37:43.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001831)  
currently have is only good to maintain

**[02:37:45.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001832)  
for two years. So we have to

**[02:37:47.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001833)  
be careful on how much we use

**[02:37:49.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001834)  
from the SUF to expand

**[02:37:50.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001835)  
and how much we use to maintain.

**[02:37:53.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001836)  
Ang importante, yung mga

**[02:37:55.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001837)  
sites na meron na tayo, siyempre,

**[02:37:57.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001838)  
hindi dapat tanggalin yun or

**[02:37:58.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001839)  
madisconnect ang services. So little

**[02:38:01.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001840)  
by little, but we want to

**[02:38:03.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001841)  
make sure that the main SUF fund

**[02:38:05.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001842)  
doesn't completely run out. That's why

**[02:38:07.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001843)  
we also need additional funds from

**[02:38:09.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001844)  
Congress for the expansion. But the maintenance,

**[02:38:11.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001845)  
that's definitely a commitment

**[02:38:13.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001846)  
under the SUF.

**[02:38:15.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001847)  
So what I'm hearing, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:38:17.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001848)  
ay hindi na rin sapat yung

**[02:38:19.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001849)  
yearly appropriations

**[02:38:20.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001850)  
na kinery over lang

**[02:38:23.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001851)  
from 20%

**[02:38:25.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001852)  
from 2025

**[02:38:26.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001853)  
onwards and onwards, para

**[02:38:29.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001854)  
i-maintain na

**[02:38:30.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001855)  
yung mga existing

**[02:38:32.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001856)  
connections that are

**[02:38:34.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001857)  
not only established before, pero yung

**[02:38:36.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001858)  
dinadagdag natin. So just

**[02:38:38.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001859)  
for the record, magkano na po ba

**[02:38:41.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001860)  
yung kailangan to maintain

**[02:38:43.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001861)  
yung connectivity

**[02:38:45.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001862)  
that's currently

**[02:38:47.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001863)  
existing?

**[02:38:49.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001864)  
Madam Speaker, it's true.

**[02:38:51.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001865)  
Sobrang kulang po yung investment natin

**[02:38:53.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001866)  
sa free Wi-Fi para sa mga constituents.

**[02:38:55.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001867)  
In fact, the investment cost is actually 22.5 pesos per connected beneficiary. Madam Speaker, 22.5 pesos per month. That's a minimal investment for the potential that connectivity unlocks, lalo na para sa mga kabataan.

**[02:39:16.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001868)  
So, for me, I honestly believe that you're correct. There is a lack of funding. This should be prioritized, but again, we also have to consider absorptive capacity of the agency, the maintenance and operations before we can go into expansion.

**[02:39:31.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001869)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, at the appropriate time, this representation will move for the amendment of the GAB to support the necessary funding para po magtuloy-tuloy yung connectivity,

**[02:39:45.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001870)  
lalo na nakalagay po ito sa mga paaralan. Ang beneficiary po, kabataan, yung beneficiary, the education sector, that, you know, kailangan ang connectivity nito among others para continuous yung quality education na ibibigay sa kabataan at syempre na ibabahagi din ng faculty, administrators, etc.

**[02:40:08.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001871)  
Madam Speaker, I'd like to move on to my next line of questioning. This is in relation, actually, to...

**[02:40:15.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001872)  
So, Project Uplift. We asked this with TESDA, which informed us na ito po ay in partnership with the DICT. This is the implementation of AI-related programs, especially upskilling, that is being rolled out to BPO companies through courses na ibinabahagi sa kanilang

**[02:40:45.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001873)  
mga employees. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, binigyan po tayo, at least ng DOLE, may some coordination ito with the DICT, ng mga listahan ng mga enterprises and yung kanilang mga training programs that they're availing of. May I ask, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, itong mga courses na po ba ito, may duration po ba ito?

**[02:41:15.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001874)  
Ang concern na finlag natin po sa TESDA ay may reports that it could be just like one PowerPoint, papasadahan ni employee, at the end of it, upskilled na siya.

**[02:41:28.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001875)  
So, I'd like more qualitative details. What does this course look like, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor. Is this a month-long course? May test ba ito at the end?

**[02:41:41.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001876)  
Paano po natin na may measure na upskilled yung employee sa dulo po nito?

**[02:41:45.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001877)  
Madam Speaker, that's a very valid question from my colleague. Siyempre, hindi pwede natin sabihin na upskilled po ang mga government workers natin, ang mga workers in general natin, kung PowerPoint lang po ang pinapakita sa kanila, lalo na kung tech-related po ito.

**[02:42:09.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001878)  
So, if you'll allow me a few seconds just to confer kung ano talaga yung programa.

**[02:42:15.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001879)  
I'll get back to you in a moment.

**[02:42:18.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001880)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

**[02:42:38.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001881)  
So, Madam Speaker, to clarify, all these courses have been uploaded in the Digital Workforce Hub.

**[02:42:45.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001882)  
Which was just released September 9.

**[02:42:48.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001883)  
So, the courses are available there.

**[02:42:51.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001884)  
And it's not just a course that you can enroll on.

**[02:42:54.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001885)  
I believe there are also follow-up activities for capacity building.

**[02:42:59.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001886)  
So, really, DICT is committed in not just creating another certificate mill, but really building the capacity of our employees.

**[02:43:08.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001887)  
However, this is brand new.

**[02:43:11.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001888)  
We just started September 9.

**[02:43:13.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001889)  
So, we have yet to see whether or not

**[02:43:15.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001890)  
this will be a successful program.

**[02:43:17.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001891)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may this representation be furnished.

**[02:43:21.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001892)  
A copy of the document that maybe the DICT is using as a framework to implement the upskilling.

**[02:43:31.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001893)  
I understand that at least in the public releases of IBPAP, it is rolling it out in partnership with these agencies.

**[02:43:43.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001894)  
It is hoping that...

**[02:43:45.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001895)  
That the upskilling happens to its employees.

**[02:43:51.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001896)  
We're still questioning, ano yung translation of upskilling na ba ito?

**[02:43:55.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001897)  
Ito ba ay promotion?

**[02:43:56.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001898)  
Ito ba ay additional salary?

**[02:43:59.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001899)  
Ganyan, more appropriate questions for Dole, perhaps.

**[02:44:02.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001900)  
Pero at least sa DICT, gusto po natin makita yung mga detalye ng paano po niroroll out niya yung mga kurso na ito.

**[02:44:10.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001901)  
Would that be...

**[02:44:12.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001902)  
Can that happen, Madam Speaker?

**[02:44:13.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001903)  
Good sponsor.

**[02:44:15.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001904)  
Madam Speaker, to be fair, the mandate of DICT would be on the capacity building side,

**[02:44:20.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001905)  
but not necessarily the immediate employment.

**[02:44:23.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001906)  
However, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be a priority for DICT to make sure that they're highly employable after their programs.

**[02:44:30.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001907)  
With that being said, I have the commitment of the Secretary that we can provide to you, to this representation,

**[02:44:35.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001908)  
the framework that was used to create this program, and also, if my colleague has any constituents,

**[02:44:45.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001909)  
that would like to participate in any of the capacity building activities,

**[02:44:50.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001910)  
the DICT has given their commitment to immediately enroll and add them into the program

**[02:44:56.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001911)  
so that you can get first-hand experience on these programs.

**[02:45:00.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001912)  
and also give your critique on whether or not this is really effective in providing ang mga kabataan natin ng mas maraming oportunidad.

**[02:45:08.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001913)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

**[02:45:10.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001914)  
I am of the understanding that there are slots that are allotted to various enterprises.

**[02:45:17.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001915)  
So, we might have to consult also with these regions, etc.

**[02:45:23.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001916)  
But nonetheless, we appreciate the details of the qualitative framework by which this upskilling happens.

**[02:45:31.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001917)  
Lalo na po yung pangamba ng karamihan ng ating mga employees in different sectors, lalo na sa BPO, kung saan mas inaasahan yung upskilling na itong mangyari,

**[02:45:41.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001918)  
rather than AI integration helping these employees to further their careers,

**[02:45:50.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001919)  
ay nagiging rason pa nga po na sila ay maaari.

**[02:45:53.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001920)  
Ma-retrench, ma-let go.

**[02:45:56.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001921)  
Sila po ay nawawalan ng trabaho because of the further integration of AI in these companies' workflows.

**[02:46:05.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001922)  
But nonetheless, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, we will be waiting for the submission of the Good Department.

**[02:46:10.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001923)  
My last question would be in relation to the EGOV PH app.

**[02:46:15.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001924)  
I remember in the presentation of the DICT that there are 54 million users registered as of date.

**[02:46:23.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001925)  
During the presentation, may we ask, yung breakdown nito, ilan po ba dito sa 54 million users ang unique Filipino users?

**[02:46:33.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001926)  
I assume dahil po may ilan po dito.

**[02:46:35.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001927)  
Mga foreigners, nirequire na i-download yung EGOV app para po sa kanilang mga travel details.

**[02:46:42.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001928)  
May ilan dito foreigners? So ilan po sa 54 million users nito ang Pilipino?

**[02:46:53.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001929)  
So from the DICT is claiming that only 3 to 4 percent of these active users are foreigners.

**[02:47:03.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001930)  
Okay. So most of them are Filipino users po?

**[02:47:07.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001931)  
Okay. And we are sure naman po na unique users sila.

**[02:47:10.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001932)  
I assume dahil may IDs din pong pinapasubmit para magka-EGOV account.

**[02:47:16.940] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001933)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, we can guarantee that these are unique accounts.

**[02:47:21.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001934)  
Okay.

**[02:47:22.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001935)  
Mr. Speaker...

**[02:47:23.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001936)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may data ba kung anong mga services yung mga ginagamit ng mga Filipino users natin?

**[02:47:31.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001937)  
Alin po yung mas frequently ginagamit versus sa hindi pa nagagamit?

**[02:47:44.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001938)  
If we could just have a quick second to confer kung ano yung mga top services na ginagamit.

**[02:47:50.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001939)  
But one thing I want to point out is unlike...

**[02:47:53.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001940)  
Social media, these are unique accounts.

**[02:47:56.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001941)  
Yes.

**[02:47:56.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001942)  
So that we can verify due to their government IDs.

**[02:48:01.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001943)  
I ask these questions, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:48:04.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001944)  
And I will allow the distinguished sponsor the few moments to confer with DICT.

**[02:48:09.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001945)  
Para po maitimbang din natin yung dami ng pera na binibigay natin sa EGOV app development and maintenance.

**[02:48:22.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001946)  
Sa paano ba...

**[02:48:23.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001947)  
Pag ginagamit, gaano ba kadalas na nagagamit ng mga mamamayan natin yung app?

**[02:48:28.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001948)  
Paano ba siya na ma-maximize, if any, or hindi?

**[02:48:31.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001949)  
Yun po yung gusto nating ma-test with this data point, perhaps.

**[02:48:35.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001950)  
So I have the breakdown, Madam Speaker.

**[02:48:42.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001951)  
First is national ID, followed by PhilHealth, followed by Pag-ibig, followed by e-travel,

**[02:48:51.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001952)  
which is then followed by clearance.

**[02:48:53.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001953)  
Permits, social services, and last would be the health desk.

**[02:48:59.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001954)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may this representation receive a report on the breakdown of services use?

**[02:49:06.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001955)  
And maybe kung this data is available, how much of the percentage of Filipino users that are registered,

**[02:49:15.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001956)  
ang gumagamit ng mga servisyong ito?

**[02:49:17.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001957)  
We will request for that.

**[02:49:19.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001958)  
The agency is committing that they will submit the percentages.

**[02:49:23.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001959)  
And last question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:49:28.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001960)  
Saan po nakastore ang data na kinakalap ng e-gov app?

**[02:49:36.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001961)  
Singapore and the United States.

**[02:49:39.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001962)  
So it's at data centers of Singapore and United States.

**[02:49:44.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001963)  
So we're availing of cloud services para po makuha sila?

**[02:49:49.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001964)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, I can confirm that we are using cloud services.

**[02:49:53.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001965)  
In order to host this data.

**[02:49:55.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001966)  
How much data po ang nakalap na para po sa e-gov PH?

**[02:50:01.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001967)  
Like terabytes na po ba ito, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

**[02:50:12.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001968)  
Madam Speaker, six terabytes of data.

**[02:50:17.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001969)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we're initially concerned that that's a lot of data.

**[02:50:22.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001970)  
Okay.

**[02:50:23.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001971)  
That's all personal data of Filipinos that's not hosted in the Philippines.

**[02:50:29.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001972)  
So mayhaps the department may consider some way to locally host this data.

**[02:50:39.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001973)  
Lalo na maaari kung magkaroon ng data breach.

**[02:50:43.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001974)  
May mga assurances na binigay ang DICT publicly.

**[02:50:47.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001975)  
But nonetheless, hindi siya foolproof guarantee that it won't happen.

**[02:50:50.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001976)  
Lalo na po.

**[02:50:53.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001977)  
At hindi po siya stored locally.

**[02:50:57.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001978)  
So siguro na lang po.

**[02:50:59.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001979)  
A final response on that point, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:51:01.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001980)  
And I have no further questions.

**[02:51:09.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001981)  
So I stand corrected.

**[02:51:11.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001982)  
It's 60 terabytes, not just 6 terabytes, Madam Speaker.

**[02:51:14.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001983)  
And my colleague is correct.

**[02:51:16.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001984)  
We actually, based on the eGov law, are supposed to move towards localization of data

**[02:51:23.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001986)  
By 2028, I believe, is the commitment.

**[02:51:26.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001987)  
And we need another 8 billion pesos to be able to get there.

**[02:51:30.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001988)  
And that's the conservative estimate from the DICT.

**[02:51:34.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001989)  
We've already allocated it, if I'm not mistaken, 9 billion so far.

**[02:51:39.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001990)  
We've allocated 9 billion over the course of 8 years

**[02:51:46.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001991)  
in order to address the data storage issue.

**[02:51:51.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001992)  
But again,

**[02:51:53.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001993)  
moving towards 2028, we need another 8 billion to reach our target.

**[02:51:59.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001994)  
So I actually have the breakdown of the appropriation for data center

**[02:52:04.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001995)  
from 2016 until our 2027 NEP.

**[02:52:09.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001996)  
The total amount between MOE and capital outlay is 9,572,567 pesos.

**[02:52:20.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-001997)  
And then, of course, we need another 8 billion to reach our target.

**[02:52:24.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002000)  
But in the NEP, we're only being given 949 million for fiscal year 2027.

**[02:52:32.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002001)  
I have it here.

**[02:52:34.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002002)  
I can submit this to the representation to my colleague for her perusal.

**[02:52:41.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002003)  
That would be appreciated, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[02:52:44.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002004)  
I thank the indulgence of my good colleague in answering my questions.

**[02:52:48.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-002005)  
Thank you very much.

**[02:52:49.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002006)  
Thank you.

**[02:52:50.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-002007)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:52:53.280] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002008)  
Next to interpellate on the proposed budget, Madam Speaker,

**[02:52:59.480] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002009)  
is the Act Teachers Party List representative.

**[02:53:03.400] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002010)  
And I therefore move that we recognize Representative Antonio Tinio.

**[02:53:10.940] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-002011)  
The Honorable Antonio Tinio of ACT Teachers Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[02:53:35.230] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002012)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, ah, yung mga questions natin regarding the DICT budget have to do with the

**[02:53:53.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002014)  
the project.

**[02:53:57.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002015)  
So, practically all the projects of the ICT, and these include the National ICT Household Survey,

**[02:54:10.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002016)  
the National Government Data Center Infrastructure, National Broadband Program,

**[02:54:16.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002017)  
the National Government Portal, the Government Transparency and Accountability Program,

**[02:54:23.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002018)  
they're all funded at the central office level.

**[02:54:33.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002019)  
So, lahat sila.

**[02:54:36.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002020)  
Unlike many other agencies na merong nasa central office, centrally managed, tas merong nasa regions.

**[02:54:44.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002021)  
So, lahat po konsentrado sa national.

**[02:54:49.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002022)  
In fact, parang yun na yung ano eh, yun na yung mga major programs.

**[02:54:52.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002023)  
Those are all.

**[02:54:53.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002024)  
Those are all the programs, in fact, if I'm not mistaken, of the DICT.

**[02:54:58.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002025)  
So, una, is there an explanation for that?

**[02:55:06.900] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002026)  
In other words, highly centralized.

**[02:55:09.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002027)  
Madam Speaker, for the longest time, for the past decade, the budget of the DICT has been centralized in the Secretary's office.

**[02:55:20.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002028)  
But that doesn't necessarily mean...

**[02:55:23.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002029)  
That the DICT agrees that this is how it should remain.

**[02:55:26.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002030)  
In fact, there are steps being taken between the DICT and DBM to push towards decentralization of the fund that's being given to DICT

**[02:55:36.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002031)  
so that we don't have 90% of the budget being allocated to the Secretary's office year after year.

**[02:55:43.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002032)  
As our ICT concerns evolve, and to make sure that the distribution of ICT services is more equitable,

**[02:55:50.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002033)  
the argument for decentralization becomes more and more...

**[02:55:53.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002034)  
the argument for decentralization becomes more and more clear.

**[02:55:55.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002035)  
Alright. So, but ano ba yung reason?

**[02:55:58.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002036)  
Is it historical? Is it because relatively bagong department ng DICT?

**[02:56:04.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002037)  
Ano pong dahilan?

**[02:56:07.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002038)  
So, yes, it's historical, but it's also because of the capacity of the regional offices.

**[02:56:13.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002039)  
Sa totoo lang po, medyo bata pa ang ahensya.

**[02:56:16.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002040)  
So, yung mga regional offices po natin need to get up to speed in terms of technical capability and manpower

**[02:56:23.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002044)  
able to address decentralization

**[02:56:25.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002045)  
from the Secretary's office.

**[02:56:27.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002046)  
Okay.

**[02:56:29.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002047)  
So now let's

**[02:56:31.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002048)  
let me focus on actually during

**[02:56:33.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002049)  
the budget briefings

**[02:56:34.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002050)  
budget briefing of the

**[02:56:36.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002051)  
DICT, I

**[02:56:38.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002052)  
honed in on the

**[02:56:41.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002053)  
National Government Data

**[02:56:42.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002054)  
Center Infrastructure

**[02:56:44.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002055)  
Program. So

**[02:56:46.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002056)  
the proposed

**[02:56:48.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002057)  
appropriation for 2027

**[02:56:50.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002058)  
is 949

**[02:56:52.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002059)  
.49 million pesos

**[02:56:54.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002060)  
of which

**[02:56:56.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002061)  
806 million

**[02:56:57.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002062)  
is MOE and

**[02:57:00.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002063)  
143.4 million

**[02:57:02.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002064)  
is

**[02:57:04.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002065)  
capital outlay.

**[02:57:07.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002066)  
Okay. And

**[02:57:08.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002067)  
lump sum. Actually yung

**[02:57:10.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002068)  
pangisang observation natin dito

**[02:57:12.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002069)  
na

**[02:57:13.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002070)  
concentrated sa central office

**[02:57:16.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002071)  
yung mga

**[02:57:17.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002072)  
programs

**[02:57:20.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002073)  
ng DICT, yung appropriation

**[02:57:22.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002074)  
for the programs and

**[02:57:23.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002075)  
the other point being

**[02:57:25.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002076)  
lump sum sila lahat.

**[02:57:28.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002077)  
Okay.

**[02:57:29.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002078)  
So dahil hindi natin

**[02:57:32.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002079)  
iisa-isahin yung mga programa, dito na lang

**[02:57:34.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002080)  
po tayo mag-focus tayo sa National

**[02:57:36.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002081)  
Government Data Center Infrastructure.

**[02:57:38.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002082)  
Wala po kasing provided breakdown.

**[02:57:40.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002083)  
I actually asked for

**[02:57:42.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002084)  
a breakdown of this.

**[02:57:45.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002085)  
I was given

**[02:57:45.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002086)  
some data.

**[02:57:48.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002087)  
But it's a

**[02:57:49.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002088)  
ito po.

**[02:57:52.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002089)  
I was given

**[02:57:52.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002090)  
some data. It's a list of

**[02:57:54.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002091)  
national government data

**[02:57:56.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002092)  
center projects

**[02:57:58.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002093)  
from fiscal year 2016

**[02:58:00.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002094)  
to

**[02:58:02.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002095)  
really

**[02:58:05.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002096)  
it's 2025

**[02:58:05.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002097)  
with one or two projects from

**[02:58:08.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002098)  
2026.

**[02:58:11.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002099)  
Exactly two projects

**[02:58:12.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002100)  
from 2026.

**[02:58:14.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002101)  
So I

**[02:58:16.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002102)  
will get to this.

**[02:58:18.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002103)  
But that does not answer

**[02:58:21.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002104)  
my

**[02:58:22.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002105)  
question regarding

**[02:58:24.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002106)  
ano po ang breakdown

**[02:58:26.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002107)  
nitong NGDC

**[02:58:29.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002108)  
infrastructure

**[02:58:30.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002109)  
budget line.

**[02:58:33.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002110)  
Para saan po ito?

**[02:58:43.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002111)  
Ah, okay.

**[02:58:45.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002112)  
Yeah, I have it here.

**[02:58:47.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002113)  
Okay.

**[02:58:48.350] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002113-split-2)  
So for

**[02:58:48.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002114)  
the breakdown,

**[02:58:50.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002115)  
if I may, but I'm going to ask you.

**[02:58:52.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002116)  
Madam Speaker, e-government data center,

**[02:58:54.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002117)  
Subic operations is 700, sorry, 78.126 million pesos. E-government

**[02:59:03.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002118)  
colocation services.

**[02:59:05.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002119)  
This would be the cloud services

**[02:59:07.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002120)  
here in the Philippines

**[02:59:09.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002121)  
amounts to 203.861

**[02:59:13.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002122)  
million pesos

**[02:59:15.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002123)  
e-government cloud hosting services.

**[02:59:17.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002124)  
This is now

**[02:59:18.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002125)  
the hosting abroad

**[02:59:21.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002126)  
is 490.557 million pesos MOE

**[02:59:22.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002127)  
plus 143.495 million pesos capital outlay for a total of 634.052 million pesos, and the project management operations is at 33.458 million pesos in terms of the MOE.

**[02:59:48.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002128)  
All right.

**[02:59:49.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002129)  
Well, thank you for that.

**[02:59:50.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002130)  
So generally,

**[02:59:51.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002131)  
yung categories are

**[02:59:53.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002132)  
ano nga po yung una?

**[02:59:57.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002133)  
So it's just the first one.

**[02:59:59.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002134)  
The two big

**[02:59:59.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002135)  
chunks.

**[03:00:00.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002136)  
One is co-location.

**[03:00:02.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002137)  
One is co-location. That's about 200

**[03:00:03.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002138)  
plus million.

**[03:00:04.550] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002138-split-2)  
The other is cloud services.

**[03:00:05.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002139)  
It's cloud services and that's 400 plus.

**[03:00:07.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002140)  
Pero yung una nyo, I forgot. Ano nga yung

**[03:00:09.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002141)  
unang binanggit mo?

**[03:00:10.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002141-split-2)  
Here, I'll

**[03:00:11.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002142)  
go over it again real quick.

**[03:00:15.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002143)  
So, ito po. Ang e-gov

**[03:00:17.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002144)  
data center, Subic.

**[03:00:19.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002145)  
Ah, okay. It's just for the Subic

**[03:00:21.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002146)  
data center. Okay, right.

**[03:00:24.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002147)  
Okay, so yun nga.

**[03:00:25.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002148)  
Kasi looking at this

**[03:00:26.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002149)  
the data,

**[03:00:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002150)  
okay, so

**[03:00:31.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002151)  
basically what you shared

**[03:00:33.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002152)  
follows the pattern from

**[03:00:35.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002153)  
the recent years.

**[03:00:38.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002154)  
2023,

**[03:00:39.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002155)  
2024, and so on. Okay,

**[03:00:41.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002156)  
I hope, hindi ko alam kung ready na yung

**[03:00:43.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002157)  
ready na ba?

**[03:00:47.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002158)  
Baka hindi pa eh.

**[03:00:49.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002159)  
Yung slide.

**[03:00:51.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002160)  
So,

**[03:00:53.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002161)  
ayan.

**[03:00:56.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002162)  
Okay, so this is

**[03:00:57.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002163)  
a visualization of

**[03:00:59.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002164)  
the list of projects

**[03:01:01.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002165)  
that I was provided.

**[03:01:04.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002166)  
No?

**[03:01:04.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002167)  
No?

**[03:01:05.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002168)  
Noong

**[03:01:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002169)  
ng DICT. So, I was, ito nga,

**[03:01:09.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002170)  
the title of the

**[03:01:10.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002171)  
submission is list of

**[03:01:13.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002172)  
NGDC projects

**[03:01:15.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002173)  
from fiscal year 2016

**[03:01:17.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002174)  
to fiscal year 2026.

**[03:01:20.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002175)  
So, one decade

**[03:01:21.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002176)  
of

**[03:01:22.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002177)  
appropriations or investment

**[03:01:25.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002178)  
in the national

**[03:01:27.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002179)  
government

**[03:01:29.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002180)  
data center project or program.

**[03:01:32.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002181)  
Okay, and it lists

**[03:01:35.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002182)  
a total of

**[03:01:37.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002183)  
total of

**[03:01:41.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002184)  
73 projects.

**[03:01:43.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002185)  
73 projects.

**[03:01:45.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002186)  
I say 73 here,

**[03:01:48.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002187)  
although curiously,

**[03:01:51.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002188)  
if you see that the

**[03:01:55.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002189)  
table here,

**[03:01:57.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002190)  
item number, itemized eh,

**[03:01:59.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002191)  
73. Pero yung item number

**[03:02:01.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002192)  
70 is skipped over.

**[03:02:05.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002193)  
Baka naman,

**[03:02:07.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002194)  
typographical error lang yun, o

**[03:02:08.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002195)  
baka naman may

**[03:02:10.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002196)  
dinilit kayo.

**[03:02:12.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002197)  
Hindi nyo po makikita dyan, dun sa submission nyo.

**[03:02:15.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002198)  
If you look at the submission,

**[03:02:16.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002199)  
the sponsor,

**[03:02:19.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002200)  
the one that was given me,

**[03:02:23.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002201)  
the list,

**[03:02:26.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002202)  
ito, wala kayo?

**[03:02:27.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002203)  
I have a copy po.

**[03:02:29.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002204)  
If I may request,

**[03:02:31.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002205)  
could we request maybe one of the pages

**[03:02:33.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002206)  
para I can take a look at it?

**[03:02:53.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002207)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:02:54.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002208)  
I am now in possession of the

**[03:02:55.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002209)  
document being referred to.

**[03:02:59.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002210)  
These are the list of

**[03:03:01.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002211)  
NGDC projects

**[03:03:03.940] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002212)  
from fiscal year

**[03:03:05.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002213)  
2016 to fiscal year

**[03:03:07.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002214)  
2026.

**[03:03:09.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002215)  
It has a total of 73 projects

**[03:03:11.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002216)  
but the

**[03:03:12.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002217)  
my colleague is correct

**[03:03:15.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002218)  
in which it goes

**[03:03:17.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002219)  
up to 73

**[03:03:19.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002220)  
items

**[03:03:20.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002221)  
but it does skip number 70.

**[03:03:24.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002222)  
And

**[03:03:25.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002223)  
I'm not sure why.

**[03:03:27.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002224)  
Okay, hold on.

**[03:03:29.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002225)  
I'm not sure with DICT but

**[03:03:31.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002226)  
it also seems to go

**[03:03:35.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002227)  
clarification lang

**[03:03:36.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002228)  
backward because it's 2025

**[03:03:39.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002229)  
Yeah, and also the ordering has been

**[03:03:41.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002230)  
Right.

**[03:03:42.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002231)  
But there's basically

**[03:03:44.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002232)  
there's one missing project.

**[03:03:52.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002233)  
We're currently going through it.

**[03:03:55.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002234)  
Okay, anyway, I just

**[03:03:56.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002235)  
noticed that off the bat.

**[03:03:59.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002236)  
Diba?

**[03:04:00.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002237)  
So anyway, if there's an explanation,

**[03:04:01.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002238)  
then okay.

**[03:04:03.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002239)  
Yes, well, anyway,

**[03:04:05.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002240)  
what was submitted was 72,

**[03:04:07.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002241)  
72 rather than 73 entries or projects

**[03:04:12.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002242)  
totaling from fiscal year 2016 to 2026

**[03:04:16.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002243)  
totaling 4.98 billion.

**[03:04:19.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002244)  
So yun yung total po yan pag sinuman nyo.

**[03:04:21.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002245)  
Even though it's not total there.

**[03:04:23.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002246)  
No?

**[03:04:23.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002247)  
Okay.

**[03:04:25.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002248)  
Um,

**[03:04:29.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002249)  
Now, the general categories of spending.

**[03:04:33.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002250)  
Actually, kaya ako po hiningi

**[03:04:35.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002251)  
dahil gusto ko rin sana magkaroon ng picture

**[03:04:37.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002252)  
at maintindihan

**[03:04:39.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002253)  
ano ba yung itsura nung

**[03:04:41.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002254)  
ah

**[03:04:44.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002255)  
nung ating

**[03:04:45.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002256)  
data

**[03:04:46.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002257)  
ah

**[03:04:47.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002258)  
center

**[03:04:49.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002259)  
ah

**[03:04:49.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002260)  
capacity

**[03:04:51.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002261)  
Diba?

**[03:04:52.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002262)  
Ah

**[03:04:53.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002263)  
within our

**[03:04:55.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002264)  
ah

**[03:04:56.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002265)  
territory

**[03:04:57.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002266)  
as well as yung cloud.

**[03:04:59.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002267)  
Ganon.

**[03:05:00.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002268)  
Ganon.

**[03:05:01.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002269)  
Okay.

**[03:05:02.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002270)  
So,

**[03:05:03.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002271)  
if you look at

**[03:05:05.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002272)  
if you

**[03:05:06.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002273)  
kasi ang pangalan ng proyekto,

**[03:05:08.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002274)  
national government data center infrastructure eh.

**[03:05:11.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002275)  
So presumably,

**[03:05:12.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002276)  
this has been the one decade investment in building that

**[03:05:16.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002277)  
ah

**[03:05:17.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002278)  
data center infrastructure.

**[03:05:19.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002279)  
Kumbaga, parang sovereign

**[03:05:21.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002280)  
ah

**[03:05:22.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002281)  
data center infrastructure.

**[03:05:24.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002282)  
And what do we see?

**[03:05:25.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002283)  
So,

**[03:05:26.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002284)  
the four general categories,

**[03:05:28.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002285)  
ah,

**[03:05:29.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002286)  
categories of spend,

**[03:05:31.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002287)  
ah,

**[03:05:32.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002288)  
sa aming, sa ginawa nating pagsusuri

**[03:05:34.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002289)  
would be

**[03:05:35.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002290)  
yung cloud

**[03:05:36.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002291)  
and managed services procurement.

**[03:05:40.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002292)  
Kaya yun.

**[03:05:41.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002293)  
Tapos,

**[03:05:42.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002294)  
two,

**[03:05:43.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002295)  
collocation

**[03:05:45.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002296)  
and space

**[03:05:46.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002297)  
or rack lease.

**[03:05:48.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002298)  
Ganon.

**[03:05:49.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002299)  
Then three,

**[03:05:50.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002300)  
construction,

**[03:05:51.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002301)  
no,

**[03:05:52.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002302)  
and building of facilities.

**[03:05:54.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002303)  
So, yun yung actual na nagtayo ng infra.

**[03:05:57.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002304)  
And then,

**[03:05:58.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002305)  
ah,

**[03:05:59.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002306)  
four,

**[03:06:00.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002307)  
this is the smallest one,

**[03:06:02.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002308)  
purchase of network,

**[03:06:03.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002309)  
equipment,

**[03:06:04.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002310)  
consultants and others.

**[03:06:06.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002311)  
Okay.

**[03:06:07.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002312)  
Meron pa nga isa dyan,

**[03:06:08.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002313)  
ano eh,

**[03:06:09.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002314)  
purchase of meals for a

**[03:06:11.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002315)  
conference.

**[03:06:12.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002316)  
Okay.

**[03:06:13.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002317)  
Nandyan po.

**[03:06:14.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002318)  
Okay.

**[03:06:15.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002319)  
But,

**[03:06:16.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002320)  
ngayon,

**[03:06:17.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002321)  
ang makikita rin natin dito,

**[03:06:19.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002322)  
under the,

**[03:06:20.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002323)  
ah,

**[03:06:21.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002324)  
program of national government data center infrastructure.

**[03:06:25.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002325)  
Actually,

**[03:06:26.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002326)  
ah,

**[03:06:27.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002327)  
kung i-

**[03:06:29.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002328)  
proportionally,

**[03:06:31.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002329)  
pag titignan mo,

**[03:06:32.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002330)  
75 percent

**[03:06:34.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002331)  
is,

**[03:06:35.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002332)  
goes to rent.

**[03:06:36.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002333)  
And then,

**[03:06:37.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002334)  
mga 25 percent,

**[03:06:38.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002335)  
yung actual build.

**[03:06:40.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002336)  
Okay.

**[03:06:41.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002337)  
So,

**[03:06:42.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002338)  
most of the budget for that,

**[03:06:43.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002339)  
ah,

**[03:06:44.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002340)  
one decade of spending has gone to

**[03:06:46.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002341)  
renting

**[03:06:47.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002342)  
as against building.

**[03:06:49.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002343)  
Okay.

**[03:06:50.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002344)  
Ah,

**[03:06:51.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002345)  
tapos,

**[03:06:53.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002346)  
ah,

**[03:06:55.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002347)  
kapansin-pansin din.

**[03:06:56.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002348)  
Actually,

**[03:06:57.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002349)  
na,

**[03:06:59.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002350)  
though I have not totaled it,

**[03:07:01.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002351)  
but,

**[03:07:02.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002352)  
a significant portion,

**[03:07:04.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002353)  
if not the biggest portion,

**[03:07:06.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002354)  
of the 4 billion has gone to

**[03:07:09.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002355)  
cloud and managed services.

**[03:07:12.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002356)  
So, yung kulay blue.

**[03:07:14.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002357)  
Yung kulay blue dyan sa ating visualization.

**[03:07:17.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002358)  
And especially,

**[03:07:18.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002359)  
since,

**[03:07:20.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002360)  
2023,

**[03:07:21.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002361)  
kitang kita natin,

**[03:07:22.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002362)  
no,

**[03:07:23.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002363)  
yung paglaki nung,

**[03:07:24.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002364)  
ah,

**[03:07:25.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002365)  
pag-paglaan ng pondo

**[03:07:27.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002366)  
for cloud and managed services,

**[03:07:29.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002367)  
734 million for fiscal year 2023,

**[03:07:35.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002368)  
809 million for 2024,

**[03:07:38.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002369)  
and 226 million for 2025.

**[03:07:44.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002370)  
Itong 2026,

**[03:07:47.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002371)  
well, sabi ko nga,

**[03:07:48.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002372)  
yung listahan,

**[03:07:49.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002373)  
kasi nakabatay sa listahan yan eh.

**[03:07:50.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002374)  
So,

**[03:07:51.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002375)  
ah,

**[03:07:52.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002376)  
wala pa.

**[03:07:53.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002377)  
And,

**[03:07:54.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002378)  
in the breakdown that you gave,

**[03:07:56.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002379)  
correct me if I'm wrong,

**[03:07:58.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002380)  
ah,

**[03:07:59.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002381)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:08:00.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002382)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:08:02.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002383)  
tama ba?

**[03:08:03.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002384)  
Pinakamalaki pa rin yung cloud.

**[03:08:05.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002385)  
Is that correct?

**[03:08:06.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002386)  
That's correct,

**[03:08:07.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002387)  
Madam Speaker.

**[03:08:08.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002388)  
Apo.

**[03:08:09.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002389)  
Okay.

**[03:08:10.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002390)  
So,

**[03:08:12.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002391)  
okay.

**[03:08:13.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002392)  
So, that's one observation.

**[03:08:15.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002393)  
The other observation,

**[03:08:17.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002394)  
meron po bang explanation doon

**[03:08:20.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002395)  
sa procurement of cloud services?

**[03:08:23.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002396)  
Okay.

**[03:08:24.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002397)  
Well,

**[03:08:25.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002398)  
from,

**[03:08:26.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002399)  
from my understanding,

**[03:08:27.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002400)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:08:28.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002401)  
ah,

**[03:08:29.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002402)  
the,

**[03:08:30.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002403)  
there's an urgent need kasi

**[03:08:31.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002404)  
to be able to store the data right away.

**[03:08:32.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002405)  
Building the data centers takes time

**[03:08:33.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002406)  
and takes additional funding.

**[03:08:34.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002407)  
Okay.

**[03:08:35.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002408)  
If we're to immediately address the needs

**[03:08:36.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002409)  
of government agencies

**[03:08:37.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002410)  
and our constituents,

**[03:08:38.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002411)  
we have to immediately first procure the cloud services.

**[03:08:39.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002412)  
And then,

**[03:08:40.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002413)  
whatever is left over,

**[03:08:41.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002414)  
we can now invest this into

**[03:08:42.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002415)  
physical infrastructure here in the Philippines.

**[03:08:43.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002416)  
So,

**[03:08:52.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002425)  
a base structure here in the Philippines

**[03:08:53.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002426)  
which will take time to build and develop,

**[03:08:55.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002427)  
maintain

**[03:08:56.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002428)  
and we have to hire staff for it pa.

**[03:08:58.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002429)  
So,

**[03:08:59.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002430)  
if we're working with the limited budget that we currently have,

**[03:09:02.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002431)  
the initial funds always go to cloud services

**[03:09:06.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002432)  
and also

**[03:09:08.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002433)  
and co-location services.

**[03:09:09.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002434)  
However,

**[03:09:10.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002435)  
if you ask this representation

**[03:09:11.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002436)  
and the members of the DICT,

**[03:09:13.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002437)  
all of us are in favor of additional funding

**[03:09:16.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002438)  
for physical infrastructure housed here in the Philippines

**[03:09:19.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002439)  
for data sovereignty purposes.

**[03:09:21.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002440)  
purposes.

**[03:09:22.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002441)  
So, yung actual

**[03:09:24.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002442)  
construction,

**[03:09:27.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002443)  
yung actual na ginawa ng gobyerno,

**[03:09:29.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002444)  
pag-aari ng gobyerno, presumably,

**[03:09:31.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002445)  
they happened in

**[03:09:32.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002446)  
2017. So, yung green.

**[03:09:35.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002447)  
2017, initially,

**[03:09:37.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002448)  
130

**[03:09:38.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002449)  
million. Tapos,

**[03:09:41.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002450)  
yung the next big one

**[03:09:42.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002451)  
was

**[03:09:43.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002452)  
2024.

**[03:09:47.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002453)  
Ito yung data center sa Subic,

**[03:09:48.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002454)  
699 million.

**[03:09:51.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002455)  
Tama po ba?

**[03:09:51.950] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002455-split-2)  
Yes, that's correct.

**[03:09:53.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002456)  
That's correct.

**[03:09:54.130] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002456-split-2)  
Could the sponsor describe

**[03:09:55.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002457)  
ano ba yung tinayo sa Subic?

**[03:09:57.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002458)  
Ano meron tayo sa Subic, in short?

**[03:09:59.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002459)  
Yes, we have

**[03:10:00.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002460)  
Subic, and that's why

**[03:10:03.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002461)  
we're giving 78 million

**[03:10:04.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002462)  
pesos for the MOE for that

**[03:10:07.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002463)  
Subic operation.

**[03:10:08.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002463-split-2)  
What does it do?

**[03:10:09.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002464)  
What is it and what does it do?

**[03:10:10.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002465)  
From my understanding, the Subic

**[03:10:13.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002466)  
data center

**[03:10:15.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002467)  
is used to store

**[03:10:16.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002468)  
the critical government data that we

**[03:10:19.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002469)  
spoke of earlier when

**[03:10:20.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002470)  
Congressman Nazal was questioning

**[03:10:22.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002471)  
how much of our critical

**[03:10:23.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002472)  
data is stored. It's 20%,

**[03:10:26.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002473)  
if I'm not mistaken, of our

**[03:10:28.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002474)  
critical government data is stored in

**[03:10:30.400] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002475)  
20%.

**[03:10:32.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002476)  
So, pwede natin sabihin yung

**[03:10:34.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002477)  
the main

**[03:10:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002478)  
data center of the national

**[03:10:38.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002479)  
government is the one in Subic.

**[03:10:41.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002480)  
Is that correct?

**[03:10:42.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002480-split-2)  
Yes, that's

**[03:10:42.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002481)  
correct.

**[03:10:43.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002481-split-2)  
Okay.

**[03:10:45.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002482)  
Now, malaking

**[03:10:46.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002483)  
bahagi ng spend

**[03:10:48.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002484)  
is yung collocation nga.

**[03:10:50.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002485)  
Collocation.

**[03:10:52.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002486)  
So, for purposes of our

**[03:10:54.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002487)  
discussion, sabihin nung collocation,

**[03:10:57.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002488)  
rent. Tama po ba?

**[03:10:59.100] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002489)  
Yes.

**[03:10:59.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002489-split-2)  
So, it's renting

**[03:11:00.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002490)  
of space.

**[03:11:02.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002491)  
Yes.

**[03:11:03.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002491-split-2)  
To house

**[03:11:04.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002492)  
the actual compute

**[03:11:07.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002493)  
for the data center.

**[03:11:11.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002494)  
Tama?

**[03:11:11.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002494-split-2)  
So, yes,

**[03:11:12.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002495)  
that is correct. The rental of fracks and

**[03:11:14.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002496)  
servers.

**[03:11:16.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002497)  
Yung, yung, mabagay,

**[03:11:18.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002498)  
yung bahay, yung facility,

**[03:11:20.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002499)  
yung building, the

**[03:11:22.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002500)  
racks, and

**[03:11:24.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002501)  
yung kuryente, so on

**[03:11:26.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002502)  
and so forth. Yun po yun.

**[03:11:27.910] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002502-split-2)  
Yes, this is

**[03:11:28.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002503)  
correct.

**[03:11:29.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002503-split-2)  
But not the actual

**[03:11:30.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002504)  
compute and networking

**[03:11:32.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002505)  
equipment

**[03:11:35.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002506)  
and infrastructure itself.

**[03:11:37.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002507)  
It's not necessarily new

**[03:11:38.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002508)  
infrastructure. It's more of

**[03:11:40.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002509)  
rental of services from Globe, BLDT,

**[03:11:42.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002510)  
and Converge.

**[03:11:44.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002511)  
But co-located, so it's here in the

**[03:11:46.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002512)  
Philippines.

**[03:11:46.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002513)  
Oo. Pero para malinawan lang ako,

**[03:11:50.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002514)  
ang ninupahan lang doon, yung space,

**[03:11:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002515)  
it's not

**[03:11:54.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002516)  
the, you know,

**[03:11:56.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002517)  
the servers,

**[03:11:59.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002518)  
not the networking

**[03:12:00.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002519)  
equipment, and so on.

**[03:12:03.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002520)  
Tama po ba?

**[03:12:05.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002521)  
Yes. It's the space, so

**[03:12:06.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002522)  
the agencies bring their servers to

**[03:12:08.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002523)  
those rented spaces.

**[03:12:10.030] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002523-split-2)  
Oh, okay. Alright.

**[03:12:11.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002524)  
So,

**[03:12:12.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002525)  
well,

**[03:12:14.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002526)  
yun lang yung tanong ko dito.

**[03:12:16.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002527)  
There's a lot of money

**[03:12:17.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002528)  
in this budget is for co-location.

**[03:12:20.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002529)  
So,

**[03:12:21.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002530)  
ang tanong natin,

**[03:12:30.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002531)  
how come there's no, I don't

**[03:12:32.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002532)  
find any spending

**[03:12:34.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002533)  
on the actual

**[03:12:35.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002534)  
equipment

**[03:12:38.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002535)  
for, you know, the computers,

**[03:12:40.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002536)  
the servers, the

**[03:12:42.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002537)  
networking gear, and so on and so

**[03:12:44.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002538)  
forth? Wala po.

**[03:12:47.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002539)  
So, bakit umuupa lang

**[03:12:48.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002540)  
ng space?

**[03:12:50.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002541)  
Anong gamit nun?

**[03:12:53.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002542)  
Please explain.

**[03:12:53.930] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002542-split-2)  
That's a very fair

**[03:12:55.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002543)  
question. We just don't have enough

**[03:12:57.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002544)  
funding to build these data

**[03:12:59.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002545)  
centers as required.

**[03:13:01.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002546)  
We have enough funding to

**[03:13:03.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002547)  
rent cloud

**[03:13:05.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002548)  
space, but that money is not

**[03:13:07.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002549)  
enough for us to build the necessary

**[03:13:08.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002550)  
equipment that we would need

**[03:13:11.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002551)  
to locally house

**[03:13:13.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002552)  
our servers. Kung baka,

**[03:13:15.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002553)  
we're given this

**[03:13:17.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002554)  
small portion of what is actually

**[03:13:19.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002555)  
required for,

**[03:13:20.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002556)  
uh, actual infrastructure

**[03:13:22.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002557)  
development. So, cloud services.

**[03:13:24.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002558)  
No, I understand. Parang ang intindi ko,

**[03:13:27.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002559)  
based on reading the

**[03:13:28.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002560)  
titles of the contracts,

**[03:13:30.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002561)  
uh, government is renting

**[03:13:32.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002562)  
the

**[03:13:33.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002563)  
essentially parang

**[03:13:36.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002564)  
floor space,

**[03:13:37.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002565)  
di ba? But not the actual

**[03:13:40.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002566)  
compute.

**[03:13:42.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002567)  
Floor space lang. So,

**[03:13:44.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002568)  
anong laman nun? Parang yung

**[03:13:46.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002569)  
bahay lang. The shell.

**[03:13:48.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002570)  
But what about the actual,

**[03:13:50.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002571)  
the actual compute?

**[03:13:56.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002572)  
So, yes, you're correct.

**[03:14:12.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002573)  
Some of them do have the computing

**[03:14:14.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002574)  
services included. However,

**[03:14:17.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002575)  
for the ones that are literally

**[03:14:18.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002576)  
just space, even

**[03:14:20.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002577)  
that, the DICT doesn't have

**[03:14:22.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002578)  
enough funding for them to build

**[03:14:24.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002579)  
buildings, literal space,

**[03:14:26.940] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002580)  
to house the physical servers

**[03:14:28.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002581)  
needed by the different government

**[03:14:30.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002582)  
agencies. 30, I believe.

**[03:14:32.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002583)  
34 government agencies.

**[03:14:34.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002584)  
There's just, we don't have

**[03:14:36.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002585)  
the buildings. DICT,

**[03:14:38.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002586)  
your building, you just

**[03:14:40.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002587)  
finished your building.

**[03:14:42.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002588)  
Even DICT is just renting its own

**[03:14:44.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002589)  
building, Madam Speaker.

**[03:14:47.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002590)  
Okay. So, naintindihan ko,

**[03:14:49.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002591)  
renting, kasi,

**[03:14:50.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002592)  
lang. Pero, anong,

**[03:14:51.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002593)  
anong ginagawa dun sa rented space na yun?

**[03:14:55.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002594)  
Now, over

**[03:14:56.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002595)  
this period, 10 years,

**[03:14:58.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002596)  
1.28 billion.

**[03:15:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002597)  
across 33 contracts

**[03:15:02.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002598)  
are for

**[03:15:04.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002599)  
collocation.

**[03:15:07.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002600)  
Sinabi mo nga, PLDT,

**[03:15:08.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002601)  
et cetera, yun yung mga pinag-upahan.

**[03:15:12.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002602)  
Many of these contracts are

**[03:15:14.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002603)  
short-term contracts,

**[03:15:17.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002604)  
three-month period, tapos

**[03:15:18.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002605)  
nire-renew every three months

**[03:15:20.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002606)  
for several

**[03:15:22.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002607)  
years. Anong

**[03:15:24.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002608)  
laman nun?

**[03:15:26.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002609)  
Ngayong wala namang

**[03:15:28.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002610)  
reflected na budget,

**[03:15:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002611)  
for compute.

**[03:15:33.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002612)  
The servers.

**[03:15:35.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002613)  
Where are the servers?

**[03:15:36.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002614)  
Presumably, umupa tayo ng

**[03:15:38.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002615)  
space sa

**[03:15:40.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002616)  
data center ng PLDT

**[03:15:43.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002617)  
para

**[03:15:44.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002618)  
ilagay natin yung

**[03:15:46.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002619)  
mga computer ng

**[03:15:48.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002620)  
gobyerno

**[03:15:48.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002621)  
to house

**[03:15:50.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002622)  
para

**[03:15:52.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002623)  
dito

**[03:15:57.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002624)  
ito yung mga hawaks

**[03:15:59.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002625)  
sa data ng

**[03:16:00.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002626)  
pamamayang Pilipino.

**[03:16:03.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002627)  
Di ba?

**[03:16:05.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002628)  
Pero,

**[03:16:06.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002629)  
ang inupahan lang at binabayaran,

**[03:16:10.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002630)  
binayaran ng a total of 1.2

**[03:16:12.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002631)  
billion is the space.

**[03:16:15.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002632)  
Okay?

**[03:16:16.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002633)  
So, what's in that space?

**[03:16:29.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002642)  
they put their own.

**[03:16:33.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002643)  
So, for example,

**[03:16:33.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002644)  
customers put

**[03:16:34.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002645)  
their own servers.

**[03:16:36.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002646)  
Okay.

**[03:16:38.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002647)  
So,

**[03:16:39.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002648)  
basically,

**[03:16:41.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002649)  
for example,

**[03:16:42.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002650)  
let's say,

**[03:16:43.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002651)  
BIR,

**[03:16:44.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002652)  
CIC,

**[03:16:45.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002653)  
DICT,

**[03:16:46.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002654)  
SEC,

**[03:16:47.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002655)  
customs,

**[03:16:48.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002656)  
they would rent the space.

**[03:16:50.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002657)  
Some spaces have the servers

**[03:16:51.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002658)  
and computation

**[03:16:52.220] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002659)  
services available.

**[03:16:54.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002660)  
Others are really

**[03:16:55.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002661)  
just the space.

**[03:16:55.900] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002662)  
And then,

**[03:16:56.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002663)  
these agencies put

**[03:16:57.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002664)  
their own servers

**[03:16:58.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002665)  
in that space.

**[03:16:59.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002666)  
Okay.

**[03:17:01.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002667)  
So, ganun pala yun.

**[03:17:03.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002668)  
So, in other words,

**[03:17:04.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002669)  
DIC acts as the

**[03:17:05.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002670)  
procurer

**[03:17:06.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002671)  
for

**[03:17:07.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002672)  
ano ba tawag diyan?

**[03:17:10.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002673)  
Colocation space

**[03:17:11.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002674)  
for other government agencies.

**[03:17:14.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002675)  
Is that what you're saying?

**[03:17:15.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002676)  
But, to be fair also,

**[03:17:16.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002677)  
not all buildings

**[03:17:18.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002678)  
can qualify

**[03:17:19.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002679)  
as a space to put

**[03:17:20.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002680)  
a server.

**[03:17:21.900] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002681)  
No?

**[03:17:22.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002682)  
We need their

**[03:17:23.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002683)  
redundancy requirements,

**[03:17:25.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002684)  
energy requirements,

**[03:17:26.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002685)  
as well as

**[03:17:27.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002686)  
temperature requirements,

**[03:17:28.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002687)  
et cetera.

**[03:17:29.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002692)  
Not everyone would be able

**[03:17:31.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002693)  
to qualify for that,

**[03:17:32.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002694)  
which is why

**[03:17:33.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002695)  
the DICT needs to provide

**[03:17:35.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002696)  
the co-location services

**[03:17:36.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002697)  
and find the proper

**[03:17:38.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002698)  
private sector entities

**[03:17:39.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002699)  
within the Philippines

**[03:17:41.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002700)  
to be able to house

**[03:17:42.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002701)  
critical government information.

**[03:17:43.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002702)  
Well, yeah.

**[03:17:44.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002703)  
Most of these contracts,

**[03:17:45.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002704)  
33 contracts,

**[03:17:46.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002705)  
18 have gone to

**[03:17:49.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002706)  
EPLDT Incorporated

**[03:17:50.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002707)  
from 2020 to 2022.

**[03:17:54.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002708)  
And then, you have other...

**[03:17:56.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002709)  
These are well-known players,

**[03:17:57.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002710)  
presumably in the industry,

**[03:17:59.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002711)  
like Vita,

**[03:17:59.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002712)  
Nitro Incorporated,

**[03:18:02.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002713)  
which is also connected

**[03:18:03.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002714)  
to PLDT,

**[03:18:04.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002715)  
Inove,

**[03:18:05.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002716)  
and so on and so forth.

**[03:18:07.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002717)  
So, yun.

**[03:18:08.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002718)  
Okay.

**[03:18:09.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002719)  
Naintindi lang natin

**[03:18:10.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002720)  
ano yung role ng...

**[03:18:11.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002721)  
Ano yung gamit ng budget

**[03:18:13.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002722)  
ng DICT?

**[03:18:13.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002723)  
Nagre-rent kayo ng space.

**[03:18:15.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002724)  
Pero, hindi necessarily

**[03:18:16.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002725)  
kasama doon yung compute.

**[03:18:18.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002726)  
So, nagtataka ako

**[03:18:19.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002727)  
kung nasaan yung compute.

**[03:18:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002728)  
O baka naman,

**[03:18:23.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002729)  
empty lang to.

**[03:18:24.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002730)  
Nag-rent kayo,

**[03:18:26.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002731)  
may binabayarang kontrata,

**[03:18:27.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002732)  
nire-renew every three months,

**[03:18:29.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002733)  
pero hindi naman

**[03:18:29.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002734)  
pala nagagamit

**[03:18:30.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002735)  
as data center.

**[03:18:32.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002736)  
Ganun ba?

**[03:18:35.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002737)  
To be fair,

**[03:18:37.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002738)  
these data centers

**[03:18:38.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002739)  
are really used.

**[03:18:39.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002740)  
Even if

**[03:18:40.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002741)  
some of them

**[03:18:42.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002742)  
have the computation services,

**[03:18:44.220] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002743)  
the others do not.

**[03:18:45.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002744)  
And they're really just a space

**[03:18:46.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002745)  
wherein servers can be placed

**[03:18:48.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002746)  
and can be functional.

**[03:18:51.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002747)  
But they are 100% used

**[03:18:53.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002748)  
by the different 34 agencies.

**[03:18:56.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002749)  
Alright.

**[03:18:57.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002750)  
So, anyway,

**[03:18:57.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002751)  
nire-raise natin yung question na yun.

**[03:18:59.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002752)  
My last set of questions.

**[03:19:02.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002753)  
Kasi, binabantayan na ako

**[03:19:04.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002754)  
ni majority leader dito eh.

**[03:19:07.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002755)  
So, yung cloud services.

**[03:19:10.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002756)  
So, malaking bahagi talaga

**[03:19:12.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002757)  
nung budget,

**[03:19:12.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002758)  
actually,

**[03:19:13.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002759)  
procurement of cloud services.

**[03:19:18.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002760)  
Well, our observation there is,

**[03:19:20.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002761)  
let's see,

**[03:19:24.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002762)  
is that

**[03:19:25.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002763)  
there are 12

**[03:19:29.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002764)  
contracts for,

**[03:19:30.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002765)  
if I'm not mistaken,

**[03:19:33.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002766)  
okay,

**[03:19:33.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002767)  
12 contracts

**[03:19:34.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002768)  
for procurement of

**[03:19:37.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002769)  
cloud services,

**[03:19:39.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002770)  
but they make up

**[03:19:40.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002771)  
49.3%

**[03:19:41.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002772)  
of the total

**[03:19:43.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002773)  
budget,

**[03:19:45.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002774)  
2.45 billion

**[03:19:47.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002775)  
out of the more than 4 billion

**[03:19:49.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002776)  
yung procurement of cloud services.

**[03:19:52.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002777)  
Okay, from 2016

**[03:19:54.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002778)  
to 2025.

**[03:19:56.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002779)  
25.

**[03:19:57.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002780)  
At 25.

**[03:19:57.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002781)  
No?

**[03:19:59.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002782)  
Ang notable dito,

**[03:20:02.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002783)  
mostly,

**[03:20:03.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002784)  
may,

**[03:20:03.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002785)  
may,

**[03:20:04.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002786)  
in some of the titles,

**[03:20:06.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002787)  
binabanggit,

**[03:20:07.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002788)  
AWS,

**[03:20:09.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002789)  
Google Cloud,

**[03:20:10.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002790)  
Google,

**[03:20:11.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002791)  
Google Cloud Platform,

**[03:20:13.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002792)  
pero yung iba,

**[03:20:16.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002793)  
ang description is

**[03:20:20.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002794)  
Government Common Platform.

**[03:20:22.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002795)  
So, GCP.

**[03:20:24.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002796)  
Kala ko nung una,

**[03:20:24.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002797)  
Google Cloud Platform.

**[03:20:25.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002798)  
Yung pala,

**[03:20:26.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002799)  
Government Common Platform.

**[03:20:28.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002800)  
Okay.

**[03:20:29.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002801)  
Well,

**[03:20:31.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002802)  
ang tanong really is,

**[03:20:34.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002803)  
bakit parang may third party?

**[03:20:37.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002804)  
So, magpo-procure

**[03:20:38.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002805)  
ng Google services,

**[03:20:40.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002806)  
pero hindi Google

**[03:20:41.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002807)  
ang kakontrata.

**[03:20:42.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002808)  
There's a third party

**[03:20:44.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002809)  
vendor.

**[03:20:47.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002810)  
So, bakit po ganun?

**[03:20:52.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002811)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:20:54.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002812)  
this is actually...

**[03:20:54.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002813)  
So, third party vendors,

**[03:20:55.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002814)  
if I may mention,

**[03:20:56.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002815)  
for example,

**[03:20:57.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002816)  
Vival Group,

**[03:20:58.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002817)  
plus

**[03:20:59.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002818)  
PhilFox 2016

**[03:21:01.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002819)  
for a contract

**[03:21:04.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002820)  
worth 372 million,

**[03:21:07.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002821)  
MicroD International,

**[03:21:10.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002822)  
Maroon Studios,

**[03:21:13.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002823)  
Crayon Software Experts,

**[03:21:16.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002824)  
Multicore Technology,

**[03:21:18.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002825)  
then you also have

**[03:21:19.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002826)  
EPLDT,

**[03:21:21.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002827)  
and so on.

**[03:21:22.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002828)  
Yes, Madam Speaker,

**[03:21:24.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002829)  
if I may clarify,

**[03:21:26.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002830)  
actually,

**[03:21:26.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002831)  
this is a critical component,

**[03:21:28.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002832)  
of national security

**[03:21:29.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002833)  
because

**[03:21:30.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002834)  
these are the companies

**[03:21:31.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002835)  
that we can chase down.

**[03:21:33.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002836)  
These are the local counterparts

**[03:21:35.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002837)  
that are contracting

**[03:21:36.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002838)  
the international services.

**[03:21:38.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002839)  
So, if there is a breach of data,

**[03:21:40.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002840)  
if there is anything

**[03:21:40.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002841)  
that they need to be held

**[03:21:41.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002842)  
accountable for,

**[03:21:42.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002843)  
it's these local companies

**[03:21:44.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002844)  
that we hold accountable.

**[03:21:45.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002845)  
Ah, so yun ang explanation.

**[03:21:47.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002846)  
That's the reason why.

**[03:21:49.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002847)  
Because we cannot directly

**[03:21:50.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002848)  
give these contracts

**[03:21:51.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002849)  
to these international entities.

**[03:21:53.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002850)  
However,

**[03:21:55.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002851)  
in 2022,

**[03:21:56.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002852)  
there are subscribes,

**[03:21:58.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002853)  
subscription, maintenance,

**[03:22:00.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002854)  
existing cloud infra

**[03:22:02.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002855)  
for Amazon Web Services

**[03:22:07.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002856)  
worth 165 million,

**[03:22:11.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002857)  
and it's directly with Amazon.

**[03:22:14.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002858)  
So, bakit ganun?

**[03:22:15.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002859)  
Pwede naman pala diretsa eh.

**[03:22:17.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002860)  
Okay.

**[03:22:28.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002861)  
So, that's correct.

**[03:22:31.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002862)  
There was direct contracting before,

**[03:22:34.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002863)  
but that served as the precursor

**[03:22:36.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002864)  
for our current system

**[03:22:37.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002865)  
because nagkaroon po

**[03:22:39.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002866)  
ng legal issue.

**[03:22:41.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002867)  
So, from that point on,

**[03:22:43.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002868)  
it became localized.

**[03:22:46.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002869)  
Alright.

**[03:22:46.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-002870)  
With the indulgence of our

**[03:22:48.240] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-002871)  
distinguished colleague.

**[03:22:50.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002872)  
I'm winding up, Madam Speaker.

**[03:22:51.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002873)  
Thank you very much.

**[03:22:52.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002874)  
Patapos natanong ko na rin

**[03:22:53.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002875)  
yung last question dito.

**[03:22:55.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002876)  
Okay.

**[03:22:55.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002877)  
So, okay.

**[03:22:58.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002878)  
Well,

**[03:23:00.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002879)  
may mga ilang

**[03:23:03.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002880)  
questions na naliwanagan tayo.

**[03:23:08.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002881)  
For example,

**[03:23:09.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002882)  
the role of third-party vendors.

**[03:23:12.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002883)  
Apparently,

**[03:23:14.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002884)  
it's mainly

**[03:23:16.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002885)  
jurisdictional issue.

**[03:23:18.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002886)  
Parang ganun.

**[03:23:19.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002887)  
Okay.

**[03:23:20.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002888)  
Pero nakita rin natin

**[03:23:22.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002889)  
na may mga tanong pa rin.

**[03:23:25.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002890)  
Like, you know,

**[03:23:26.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002891)  
there's a large spend,

**[03:23:28.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002892)  
large spending for

**[03:23:30.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002893)  
co-location services.

**[03:23:33.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002894)  
Hindi directly nasagot

**[03:23:34.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002895)  
ng DICT

**[03:23:35.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002896)  
kung paano

**[03:23:37.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002897)  
o sino ang gumagamit nito.

**[03:23:39.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002898)  
Apparently, hindi sila.

**[03:23:40.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002899)  
Okay.

**[03:23:41.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002900)  
Ibang ahensya.

**[03:23:45.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002901)  
So, Madam Speaker,

**[03:23:47.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002902)  
with that,

**[03:23:48.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002903)  
I end my interpellation.

**[03:23:50.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002904)  
Thank you.

**[03:23:50.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-002905)  
Thank you very much,

**[03:23:51.780] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-002906)  
Majority Leader.

**[03:23:53.560] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002907)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:23:55.500] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002908)  
also to interpellate

**[03:23:57.180] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002909)  
on the proposed budget,

**[03:23:58.160] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002910)  
is the representative

**[03:24:01.280] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002911)  
of Gabriela Women's Party.

**[03:24:06.720] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002912)  
And I therefore move

**[03:24:08.360] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002913)  
that we recognize

**[03:24:10.620] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-002914)  
Representative Sarah Jane Elago.

**[03:24:14.700] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-002915)  
The Honorable Elago

**[03:24:15.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-002916)  
is recognized for interpellation.

**[03:24:19.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002917)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[03:24:22.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002918)  
Just to follow on the

**[03:24:24.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002919)  
information provided

**[03:24:26.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002920)  
by the agency

**[03:24:27.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002921)  
on the information

**[03:24:28.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002922)  
on its measures

**[03:24:29.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002923)  
to prevent and minimize

**[03:24:31.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002924)  
online fraud and scams

**[03:24:32.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002925)  
and mitigate their impact

**[03:24:34.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002926)  
on the public.

**[03:24:36.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002927)  
It reported that

**[03:24:38.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002928)  
it has proactive

**[03:24:40.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002929)  
public awareness

**[03:24:42.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002930)  
and education efforts,

**[03:24:45.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002931)  
particularly

**[03:24:45.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002932)  
on

**[03:24:47.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002933)  
undertaking

**[03:24:50.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002934)  
this

**[03:24:51.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002935)  
efforts to raise awareness

**[03:24:53.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002936)  
through its official

**[03:24:54.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002937)  
communication channels.

**[03:24:56.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002938)  
May we know, Madam Speaker,

**[03:24:58.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002939)  
what these

**[03:25:00.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002940)  
official communication channels are?

**[03:25:14.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002941)  
Thank you.

**[03:25:28.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002942)  
So we have the 1326 hotline.

**[03:25:35.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002943)  
We also have a 24-7 action center

**[03:25:38.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002944)  
in Studio 7

**[03:25:40.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002945)  
at the CICC-DICT office.

**[03:25:44.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002946)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:25:45.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002947)  
ang nais po sana nating malaman

**[03:25:48.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002948)  
sa particular

**[03:25:49.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002949)  
ay kung saan po lumalabas

**[03:25:51.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002950)  
halimbawa yung

**[03:25:52.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002951)  
impormasyon

**[03:25:53.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002952)  
kung paano, halimbawa,

**[03:25:56.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002953)  
magsusumbong,

**[03:25:57.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002954)  
kung paano magre-recognize,

**[03:25:58.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002955)  
kung paano magreklamo,

**[03:25:59.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002956)  
paano ba yung proseso.

**[03:26:02.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002957)  
Yun po ay kasama sa report

**[03:26:04.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002958)  
ng CICC.

**[03:26:07.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002959)  
Nabanggit dito

**[03:26:08.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002960)  
yung tungkol sa hotline 1326

**[03:26:10.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002961)  
at tungkol sa

**[03:26:14.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002962)  
scam safe

**[03:26:15.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002963)  
na online scam

**[03:26:17.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002964)  
verification platform.

**[03:26:20.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002965)  
Pero ang nais ko pong malaman,

**[03:26:22.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002966)  
paano natin mas ipinapaalam po

**[03:26:24.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002967)  
sa publiko

**[03:26:25.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002968)  
na meron tayong hotline 1326

**[03:26:28.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002969)  
at meron tayong

**[03:26:29.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002970)  
scam safe platform?

**[03:26:31.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002971)  
Well, every Thursday at 10am

**[03:26:34.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002972)  
it's on RTV.

**[03:26:37.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002973)  
There's also on

**[03:26:38.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002974)  
their social media pages

**[03:26:39.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002975)  
and there's continuous

**[03:26:42.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002976)  
promotion across various news

**[03:26:44.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002977)  
outlets.

**[03:26:45.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002978)  
But I guess para sa mga kababayan natin

**[03:26:48.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002979)  
para mas mabidis,

**[03:26:49.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002980)  
sockment talaga yung pinag-amabidis.

**[03:26:52.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002981)  
Check lang yung CICC page.

**[03:26:55.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002982)  
I ask this, Madam Speaker,

**[03:26:58.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002984)  
I'm concerned that

**[03:26:59.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002985)  
as shared by the

**[03:27:02.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002986)  
distinguished sponsor,

**[03:27:04.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002987)  
the current,

**[03:27:06.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002988)  
the existing efforts

**[03:27:08.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002989)  
to raise awareness

**[03:27:09.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002990)  
are mostly done online

**[03:27:11.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002991)  
through its internet

**[03:27:13.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002992)  
and other social media

**[03:27:16.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002993)  
channels

**[03:27:18.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002994)  
and spaces.

**[03:27:20.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002995)  
Napakahalaga po nito

**[03:27:21.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002996)  
at tama po ang ating sponsor

**[03:27:23.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002997)  
na maraming gumagamit,

**[03:27:25.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002998)  
mabilis rin at mura.

**[03:27:28.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002999)  
Ngunit, sa tingin ko,

**[03:27:29.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003000)  
kinakailangan din na meron tayong

**[03:27:31.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003001)  
mga offline means

**[03:27:34.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003002)  
para po maabot

**[03:27:35.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003003)  
ng ating mga kababayan

**[03:27:37.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003004)  
sa mga pampublikong espasyo.

**[03:27:40.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003005)  
Nais ko rin po sanang malaman

**[03:27:41.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003006)  
at maibahagi at sa susunod

**[03:27:43.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003007)  
maiulat sa ating kapulungan

**[03:27:46.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003008)  
ang pagkakaroon din ng mga

**[03:27:48.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003009)  
partnerships sa ating

**[03:27:50.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003010)  
local government units,

**[03:27:51.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003011)  
sa ating mga barangay,

**[03:27:53.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003012)  
sa civil society,

**[03:27:55.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003013)  
sa mga people's organizations,

**[03:27:57.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003014)  
sa academia,

**[03:27:58.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003015)  
para matiyak na talagang

**[03:28:00.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003016)  
sa panahon ngayon na napakalaganap

**[03:28:02.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003017)  
ng iba't ibang scam,

**[03:28:04.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003018)  
ng iba't ibang panluloko

**[03:28:05.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003019)  
sa ating mga kababayan,

**[03:28:07.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003020)  
alam ng ating

**[03:28:09.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003021)  
taong bayan

**[03:28:11.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003022)  
kung paano sila

**[03:28:13.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003023)  
pag-uulat. Alam ng taong bayan

**[03:28:16.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003024)  
kung paano nila mahahabol

**[03:28:17.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003025)  
kung sino ba yung mga perpetrators

**[03:28:19.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003026)  
ng ganitong mga scam operations

**[03:28:21.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003027)  
at alam ng taong bayan

**[03:28:24.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003028)  
na kapag nagsumbong sila

**[03:28:26.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003029)  
o kapag nagsumbong

**[03:28:28.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003030)  
reklamo sila, ay merong

**[03:28:30.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003031)  
mapapanagot ang ating mga batas.

**[03:28:33.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003032)  
Sa ngayon po ba, magkano po

**[03:28:34.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003033)  
ang nakalaan na pondo para dito?

**[03:28:44.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003034)  
Madam Speaker, I am sorry to report

**[03:28:46.860] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003035)  
that in the current NEP,

**[03:28:48.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003036)  
there's zero allocation for information

**[03:28:50.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003037)  
campaigns for the CICC

**[03:28:52.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003038)  
with regards to this matter.

**[03:28:55.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003039)  
Zero budget.

**[03:28:56.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003040)  
Kaya ho,

**[03:28:58.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003041)  
sa ating representasyon kami po

**[03:29:01.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003042)  
ay mahitingi ng detalye

**[03:29:03.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003043)  
ng specific

**[03:29:05.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003044)  
na projects

**[03:29:06.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003045)  
kung merong proposed na line item

**[03:29:09.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003046)  
para matiyak na

**[03:29:11.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003047)  
tuloy-tuloy ang ating

**[03:29:12.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003048)  
public information and education

**[03:29:15.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003049)  
efforts

**[03:29:16.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003050)  
online at offline.

**[03:29:18.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003051)  
Opo. Pero, Madam Speaker,

**[03:29:22.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003052)  
just to highlight

**[03:29:23.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003053)  
the efforts of the DICT,

**[03:29:25.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003054)  
kahit limitado po ang pondo ng DICT

**[03:29:28.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003055)  
sa information campaigns po nila,

**[03:29:30.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003056)  
they have the partnership with RTV

**[03:29:32.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003057)  
which is offline.

**[03:29:34.220] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003058)  
Of course, as mentioned,

**[03:29:36.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003059)  
there are the online social media

**[03:29:38.900] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003060)  
which is basically

**[03:29:40.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003061)  
in-house. So, there's no cost

**[03:29:42.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003062)  
on that. But also,

**[03:29:44.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003063)  
my colleagues here from DICT

**[03:29:47.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003064)  
are saying that they have

**[03:29:48.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003065)  
roadshows and partnerships

**[03:29:50.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003066)  
with the LGUs

**[03:29:52.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003067)  
to push information

**[03:29:54.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003068)  
across the 16 different regions.

**[03:29:57.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003069)  
So, meron po,

**[03:29:58.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003070)  
kahit wala namang pondo,

**[03:30:00.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003077)  
naghahanap ng paraan po ang DICT para sa kanilang information campaigns to protect from online sexual abuse and misinformation and scams.

**[03:30:11.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003078)  
Maraming salamat. At Madam Speaker, natanong ko ito dahil kamakailan lang maraming lumabas na mga exclusive reports

**[03:30:20.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003079)  
tungkol sa mas matinding, mas laganap, mas marami ng mga kaso ng technology-facilitated gender-based violence.

**[03:30:28.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003080)  
Isa na yung exclusive report mula sa Rappler tungkol sa 430,000 plus member forum na nagsistream ng mga privado at intimate moments ng mga kababaihan.

**[03:30:44.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003081)  
Nandyan din po ang lumabas na ulat mula sa CNN tungkol sa emergence ng mga global rape academy.

**[03:30:55.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003082)  
Napakahirap pong sabihin kasi hindi po katanggap.

**[03:30:58.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003083)  
Nandyan din po ang mga espasyo, mga Philippine online forum na nagbibigay ng rewards sa submission ng mga non-consensual intimate content.

**[03:31:14.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003084)  
Sa mga platforms na namag-get yung kanina, sa ating hotline, sa ating online platforms,

**[03:31:21.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003085)  
yung ating po bang mga first responders, mga tumatanggap ng tawag,

**[03:31:28.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003086)  
sumailalim sa isang gender sensitivity training, first aid responders training para po sa pagtanggap ng ganitong tipo ng mga kaso na may kinalaman sa gender-based violence.

**[03:31:53.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003087)  
So legitimate naman talaga po yung concern ng colleague po natin.

**[03:31:58.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003088)  
Dapat may tamang training po ang ating first responders.

**[03:32:04.940] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003089)  
The CWC is in partnership with the CICC in providing our first responders with the proper training.

**[03:32:13.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003090)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[03:32:14.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003091)  
Bukod po sa Council for the Welfare of Children para sa pagtitiyak na child-friendly ang ating pag-usap,

**[03:32:22.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003092)  
sensitive sa mga needs ng ating mga bata at ng mga kabataan,

**[03:32:28.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003093)  
halimbawa sa Philippine Commission on Women,

**[03:32:30.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003094)  
yung partnership natin para sa pagtitiyak na hindi lang gender-sensitive pero gender-affirmative din.

**[03:32:39.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003095)  
Yung pagtitiyak natin na lahat na hindi lang naman po kababaihan,

**[03:32:44.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003096)  
pinakamarami pa rin sa mga kababaihan, pinakamadalas,

**[03:32:47.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003097)  
pero maaari din pong nagiging target ng abuse ang men, boys, at gender-diverse people.

**[03:32:56.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003098)  
Magandang suggestion.

**[03:32:58.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003099)  
Magandang suggestion po yan, Madam Speaker.

**[03:33:01.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003100)  
May commitment po ako galing sa CICC na agad-agad they will reach out to the Commission on Women

**[03:33:07.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003101)  
to be able to get their input as well regarding this matter.

**[03:33:11.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003102)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[03:33:13.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003103)  
At meron na tayong mga civil society organizations na nagsisimula na mag-develop ng modules

**[03:33:20.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003104)  
para po pakipagtulungan sa paglaban sa technology-facilitated gender-based violence.

**[03:33:25.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003105)  
At aasahan po natin.

**[03:33:27.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003106)  
Sana po for 2027, meron din mga pondo ang DICT, ang National Privacy Commission

**[03:33:34.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003107)  
para mapagyaman ang mga tulungan na ito at lahat tayo ay magsama-sama sa paglaban sa TFGBV.

**[03:33:44.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003108)  
Ngayon naman po, I'd like to ask about the role of the DICT as well as the National Privacy Commission

**[03:33:52.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003109)  
on the recent adoption of the International...

**[03:33:57.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003110)  
International Labor Organization Convention No. 193.

**[03:34:01.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003111)  
This is the very first international labor standard created specifically for digital platform workers

**[03:34:10.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003112)  
such as those working in the gig economy, delivery and online application workers.

**[03:34:16.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003113)  
This is particularly relevant for DICC, for example, because it covers the protection,

**[03:34:27.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003114)  
on algorithmic transparency and management, requiring online platforms to inform workers

**[03:34:36.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003115)  
and their representatives about automated monitoring and evaluation systems

**[03:34:41.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003116)  
and to provide safeguards against unlawful or discriminatory suspension, deactivation or termination.

**[03:34:49.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003117)  
May we know, Madam Speaker, if the DICC or the NPC already have their position on this?

**[03:34:57.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003118)  
And will the departments, will the commissions actively campaign for its ratification here in the Philippines,

**[03:35:05.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003119)  
considering that we have a considerable number of workforce working in the ICT-related sector?

**[03:35:13.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003120)  
And how does the ICT and the commissions here intend to consult their stakeholders

**[03:35:20.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003121)  
from the platform managers, administrators, owners, to the workers?

**[03:35:27.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003122)  
May kasama po ba tayong pondo para matiyak na broad, wide,

**[03:35:33.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003123)  
yung mga magiging konsultasyon natin sa stakeholders para sa ILO Convention No. 193?

**[03:35:57.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003124)  
Madam Speaker, nabanggit ko po dito ang NPC dahil isa din sa mga guarantees ng convention na ito,

**[03:36:11.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003125)  
ang data protection and privacy.

**[03:36:14.340] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003126)  
Unfortunately, Madam Speaker, sa ngayon wala pa silang policy regarding this matter

**[03:36:20.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003127)  
at wala po silang pondo to support furthering this.

**[03:36:26.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003128)  
However,

**[03:36:27.420] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003129)  
in terms of stakeholder consultation,

**[03:36:30.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003130)  
I have confirmation that they do have stakeholder consultations as well as capacity building.

**[03:36:36.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003131)  
But for this specific matter, wala pa po silang internal policy.

**[03:36:42.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003132)  
But maybe I can ask my colleague and our other colleagues in the minority

**[03:36:47.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003133)  
for their position regarding this to help inform the agency.

**[03:36:54.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003134)  
Madam Speaker, will the distinguished sponsor, will the department,

**[03:36:57.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003135)  
commit to a study this particular convention and sit not only with these representatives

**[03:37:04.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003136)  
but stakeholders from workers' groups who are also calling for algorithmic transparency?

**[03:37:12.980] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003137)  
There is a commitment from the DICT and its attached agency to conduct the necessary study for this.

**[03:37:20.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003138)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

**[03:37:23.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003139)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[03:37:24.260] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003140)  
Majority Leader?

**[03:37:26.780] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-003142)  
Maraming salamat.

**[03:37:27.380] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-003143)  
Madam Speaker, last to interpellate on the proposed budget is Philreka Party-list representative.

**[03:37:40.060] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-003144)  
I therefore move that we recognize Congressman Presley De Jesus.

**[03:37:46.600] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003145)  
The distinguished gentleman representing Philreka Party-list,

**[03:37:50.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003146)  
Honorable Presley De Jesus, is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[03:37:57.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003148)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor.

**[03:38:03.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003149)  
After the Ateneo de Zamboanga school shooting,

**[03:38:08.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003150)  
DICT and CICC publicly raised the possibility of blocking Facebook as a last resort

**[03:38:17.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003151)  
over delayed takedowns of violent content, child safety concerns, and misinformation.

**[03:38:24.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003152)  
Malakanyang later said there is no ban for now,

**[03:38:27.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003153)  
and that the government is cooperating.

**[03:38:28.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003154)  
And talks were held in Singapore.

**[03:38:32.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003155)  
What really transpired in Singapore?

**[03:38:35.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003156)  
Nagkaroon ko ba ng usapan po nung pumunta po kayo?

**[03:38:39.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003157)  
Because I remember during committee hearing, Madam Chair,

**[03:38:42.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003158)  
nabanggit na [unclear] Secretary, nagkaroon daw ng dialogue sa Singapore.

**[03:38:47.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003159)  
Can you update us what transpired on that said meeting?

**[03:38:51.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003160)  
Yes. Madam Secretary, if I'm not mistaken, members of the DICT and CICC,

**[03:38:57.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003161)  
flew to Singapore to consult and explain the situation here in the Philippines to META.

**[03:39:05.580] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003162)  
And I believe they're working towards an MOU, an MOA, rather, with META

**[03:39:13.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003163)  
to be able to address the growing concerns of influence on minors here in the Philippines,

**[03:39:19.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003164)  
among other concerns that are happening within the META platform, Madam Speaker.

**[03:39:24.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003165)  
Thank you.

**[03:39:27.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003166)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[03:39:32.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003167)  
one of the primary mandates of the DICT is the security of critical ICT infrastructure,

**[03:39:41.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003168)  
which includes the information assets of government, individuals, and businesses,

**[03:39:47.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003169)  
as well as the protection of consumers' privacy, security, and confidentiality.

**[03:39:53.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003170)  
My question will focus on DICT's follow-through,

**[03:39:57.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003171)  
as well as the security of the META platform.

**[03:39:58.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003172)  
The DICT also announced an agreement with META on online scams,

**[03:39:58.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003173)  
particularly those occurring through Facebook and other META platforms.

**[03:40:05.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003174)  
The DICT announced an agreement with META as early as February 2026,

**[03:40:12.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003175)  
covering fake investment schemes, phishing, digital fraud, online scams, and deep fakes.

**[03:40:21.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003176)  
What does the agreement actually entail, Mr. Speaker?

**[03:40:27.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003177)  
So, Madam Speaker, the agreement that was being referred to is separate from the MOA that they're currently working on.

**[03:40:37.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003178)  
And to update my colleague, because of the urgency,

**[03:40:41.140] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003179)  
as of yesterday, the DICT and CICC have already started their technical working group with META

**[03:40:47.900] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003180)  
to be able to address the concerns of our constituents with regards to these matters.

**[03:40:53.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003181)  
However, on the status of the TWG,

**[03:40:57.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003182)  
because they're just about to start,

**[03:40:59.280] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003183)  
they're only doing role assignments and immediate target setting.

**[03:41:04.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003184)  
But as the days go on, we'll see immediate action from the relevant agencies, Madam Speaker.

**[03:41:12.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003185)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[03:41:14.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003186)  
By the way, how many, as far as Facebook account,

**[03:41:19.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003187)  
do they have Facebook or the META as an office here in the Philippines?

**[03:41:27.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003188)  
Madam Speaker, I would like to confirm that Facebook does have a physical office here in the Philippines.

**[03:41:36.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003189)  
However, we don't have jurisdiction over them, Madam Speaker,

**[03:41:39.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003190)  
dahil marketing office lang po ito.

**[03:41:41.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003191)  
So, in short, Madam Speaker, wala talaga silang office, only marketing arm.

**[03:41:47.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003192)  
Ibig sabihin, pang-marketing, pang-recruit lang.

**[03:41:51.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003193)  
So, what I'm trying to say, do they have a country manager here in the Philippines?

**[03:41:57.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003195)  
And how many employees do they employ?

**[03:42:02.120] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003196)  
There's only a handful of employees here in the Philippines, Madam Speaker,

**[03:42:05.780] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003197)  
and they don't have an official country manager for the Philippines.

**[03:42:09.320] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003198)  
But I would like to assure my colleague that one of the terms that,

**[03:42:13.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003199)  
the two of the terms that are being considered in this technical working group

**[03:42:18.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003200)  
is one, that they do have a physical office here in the Philippines,

**[03:42:24.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003201)  
a corporate office here in the Philippines,

**[03:42:25.660] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003202)  
and that two,

**[03:42:27.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003203)  
that they require the national ID already for users of META here in the Philippines.

**[03:42:35.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003204)  
And it's been done before.

**[03:42:36.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003205)  
I want to point that out, that Brazil has already implemented such a system

**[03:42:41.480] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003206)  
because of their age restrictions.

**[03:42:44.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003207)  
So, it is possible.

**[03:42:44.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003208)  
Madam Speaker, what I'm trying to say, do they have office?

**[03:42:49.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003209)  
Do they have managers?

**[03:42:51.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003210)  
Not the marketing itself.

**[03:42:53.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003211)  
Yun ang gusto naming mangyari.

**[03:42:54.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003212)  
See?

**[03:42:54.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003213)  
There's none.

**[03:42:55.700] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003214)  
Madam Speaker, we don't have jurisdiction.

**[03:42:57.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003215)  
I agree with my colleague.

**[03:42:58.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003216)  
It's ridiculous.

**[03:42:59.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003217)  
Considering that the Philippines is the fifth largest population on META,

**[03:43:03.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003218)  
that META does not have an actual country manager and a real office here in the Philippines,

**[03:43:10.060] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003219)  
considering the amount of capital that this country provides META through its engagement on the platform.

**[03:43:17.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003220)  
So, I agree with my colleague here.

**[03:43:20.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003221)  
This is a priority for us.

**[03:43:21.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003222)  
Madam Speaker, the distinguished sponsor mentioned a while ago that we are,

**[03:43:26.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003223)  
the fifth largest users of META.

**[03:43:30.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003224)  
Imagine, the entire, sa buong mundo, pang lima tayo,

**[03:43:36.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003225)  
and we're only, what, 120 million Filipinos compared to other countries,

**[03:43:42.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003226)  
transing billions.

**[03:43:44.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003227)  
But again, so we're being ignored.

**[03:43:46.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003228)  
I'm not trying to blame the ICT, Madam Speaker.

**[03:43:50.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003229)  
Ito po yung sinasabi natin.

**[03:43:53.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003230)  
We keep on making their businesses.

**[03:43:56.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003231)  
Big.

**[03:43:57.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003232)  
But in return, hindi mo lang tayo mapansin.

**[03:44:01.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003233)  
Not even as office here in the Philippines, hindi maibigay sa atin.

**[03:44:07.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003234)  
And they have to follow the Philippine laws, Madam Speaker.

**[03:44:12.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003235)  
So, my next question, ano po ang ginawa ng DICT?

**[03:44:17.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003236)  
Did you persuade them na magtayo kayo sa opisina?

**[03:44:23.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003237)  
Opisina, that you have a country manager,

**[03:44:25.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003238)  
that you have the organizational structure that will look into sa mga scammers?

**[03:44:32.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003239)  
Ang dami nang lumalabas, kawawa ang ating mga kababayan.

**[03:44:36.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003240)  
Well, the two non-negotiables, Madam Speaker,

**[03:44:39.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003241)  
are one, that they open an actual office here in the Philippines

**[03:44:42.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003242)  
so that they can be held accountable.

**[03:44:44.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003243)  
And two, Madam Speaker, again, for the sake of accountability and protection on social media,

**[03:44:50.360] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003244)  
the requirement of national ID in order to create or maintain your account on the META platform,

**[03:44:55.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003245)  
here in the Philippines.

**[03:44:57.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003246)  
So, these are steps that are being taken.

**[03:45:00.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003247)  
To be fair to META, META seems open to these requirements and have even cited other countries in which they had similar requirements and acted on it.

**[03:45:10.820] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003248)  
So we're moving in that direction and the results of this technical working group that just started, hopefully we'll be able to see it within the next few months.

**[03:45:21.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003249)  
Again, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, the concern is that DICT has several programs, publicized partnerships and coordination mechanisms, but we know, but we don't have visibility of the result of those initiatives.

**[03:45:40.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003250)  
What system does DICT currently have to ensure that actions announced by the department are actually monitored through implementation?

**[03:45:51.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003251)  
Madam Speaker, I want to share with my colleague here and all the members of Congress that there is actual action that DICT is taking to hold META accountable.

**[03:46:03.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003252)  
And what I have here in my hand, Madam Speaker, is a copy of several documents that have been submitted to the Office of the Solicitor General to possibly build up a case against META for abuses that take place on their platform,

**[03:46:20.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003253)  
which they turn...

**[03:46:21.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003254)  
A blind eye too.

**[03:46:23.260] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003255)  
So in this, we have in Annex A, a draft of a civil complaint, which was prepared by the DICT.

**[03:46:31.020] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003256)  
In Annex B, there is a formal request drawing from global litigation precedents in Brazil, New Mexico, and Los Angeles that recognize platforms as active participants rather than passive intermediaries of actions taken on their platform.

**[03:46:48.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003257)  
Annex C actually has...

**[03:46:51.440] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003258)  
All the evidence and documentation of abuse, that's OSAEC, CSAEM, financial fraud, online debt harassment, illegal gambling,

**[03:47:01.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003259)  
records of platform knowledge and inaction is also included in this document in Annex C.

**[03:47:09.240] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003260)  
In Annex D, the National Privacy Commission asserted its regulatory jurisdiction over META

**[03:47:17.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003261)  
in relation to the processing of personal data for AI-generated content and functionalities.

**[03:47:25.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003262)  
And the NTC submitted its legal position paper on a test case for courts to propose action to be taken against Facebook in Annex E.

**[03:47:36.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003263)  
So the DICT and its attached agencies aren't just sitting around waiting for something to happen.

**[03:47:44.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003264)  
They've already prepared the necessary evidence, documents,

**[03:47:47.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003265)  
and potential cases to hold META accountable should they not work together with our government.

**[03:47:54.380] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003266)  
So I would like to request the assistance of a page to pass a copy of this to my colleague

**[03:47:59.500] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003267)  
so that my colleague would be able to go over the document.

**[03:48:04.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003268)  
Madam Speaker, what if I file a House resolution in aid of legislation and I will summon the DICT

**[03:48:12.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003269)  
and who will be the representatives from META?

**[03:48:15.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003270)  
Sino bang papadala lang?

**[03:48:17.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003271)  
Kali mag-file ako ng House resolution with regard to what happened to Zamboanga massacre.

**[03:48:24.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003272)  
And of course, yung mga kanilang violation.

**[03:48:27.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003273)  
Sino ang pupunta rito from META?

**[03:48:30.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003274)  
Anyone from META?

**[03:48:32.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003275)  
Will be held responsible?

**[03:48:34.740] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003276)  
From the DICT, they themselves wrote directly to Mark Zuckerberg to ask him to confront these issues which we are facing.

**[03:48:46.300] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003277)  
Although...

**[03:48:47.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003278)  
There was no response.

**[03:48:49.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003279)  
Madam Speaker, I don't think the founder, Mark Zuckerberg, will come here.

**[03:48:54.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003280)  
Para sa atin, ganito lang tayo sa kanya.

**[03:48:56.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003281)  
They make a lot of money through Facebook.

**[03:48:59.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003282)  
Alam naman nila na puri karamihan is...

**[03:49:03.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003283)  
I'm not saying the whole thing, no?

**[03:49:04.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003284)  
Because I don't have...

**[03:49:06.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003285)  
Myself, I don't have Facebook account, no?

**[03:49:08.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003286)  
Kasi alam ko maraming kalokohan dyan, pero maraming gumagamit at karamihan sa ating mga kababayan

**[03:49:14.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003287)  
ay kumikita naman dyan, in fairness.

**[03:49:17.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003288)  
To Facebook, no?

**[03:49:18.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003289)  
To META.

**[03:49:19.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003290)  
But again, we're talking about responsibility.

**[03:49:23.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003291)  
We're talking about yung kailangan nila maging, ano sila rito, accountable.

**[03:49:29.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003292)  
Yan po ang kailangan natin, Madam Speaker.

**[03:49:33.180] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003293)  
Madam Speaker, though Mark Zuckerberg himself never showed up in countries like Brazil and others,

**[03:49:39.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003294)  
they did send legal representation to confront the issues in other countries.

**[03:49:44.620] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003295)  
So, I assume...

**[03:49:46.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003296)  
Kung magkaroon po tayo ng isang...

**[03:49:47.540] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003297)  
Kung magkaroon po tayo ng isang House Resolution investigating this,

**[03:49:50.460] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003298)  
kailangan na kailangan magpadala ng representation ang META to confront these valid issues from the House of Representatives.

**[03:49:57.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003299)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[03:50:02.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003300)  
the issue then is not the absence of initiatives,

**[03:50:06.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003301)  
but whether the ICT has sufficient mechanisms to monitor implementation and measure actual results.

**[03:50:14.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003302)  
I appreciate the responses of the Department,

**[03:50:17.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003303)  
and the good sponsor.

**[03:50:20.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003304)  
However, I remain concerned that there is still insufficient information before this body

**[03:50:27.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003305)  
regarding the actual outcomes of the ICT's anti-scam initiatives.

**[03:50:35.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003306)  
The Department has entered into agreement, established reporting mechanisms,

**[03:50:40.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003307)  
and coordinated with private platforms and law enforcement agency.

**[03:50:46.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003308)  
But,

**[03:50:47.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003309)  
for purposes of budget review,

**[03:50:50.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003310)  
this Committee must also be able to determine what happened after those actions were initiated.

**[03:50:59.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003311)  
Without that information,

**[03:51:00.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003312)  
it is difficult for Congress to properly assess whether the resources being requested are producing the intended outcomes.

**[03:51:10.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003313)  
Accordingly, Madam Chair,

**[03:51:11.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003314)  
until those matters are a satisfactory address,

**[03:51:16.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003315)  
and the Department can...

**[03:51:17.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003316)  
and the Department can present measurables, deliverables.

**[03:51:22.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003317)  
Madam Speaker, it pains me, but I have no choice.

**[03:51:29.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003318)  
I move that for consideration of the budget of the Department of Information and Communication Technology be deferred.

**[03:51:40.800] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-003319)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:51:42.280] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003320)  
Majority Leader,

**[03:51:43.080] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-003321)  
on the part of the majority,

**[03:51:47.540] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-003322)  
we join the minority in the motion to defer the period of interpellations on the proposed budget

**[03:51:55.680] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-003323)  
of the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

**[03:52:00.520] Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores** (asr-003324)  
including its attached agencies.

**[03:52:06.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003325)  
Because of the wisdom of the minority,

**[03:52:10.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003326)  
that the plan of the ICT insofar as curbing scams,

**[03:52:17.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003327)  
and victimizing our children on the negative aspects,

**[03:52:22.680] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003328)  
especially on their behavior,

**[03:52:24.620] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003329)  
has not been addressed well,

**[03:52:26.920] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003330)  
there is a motion from the minority,

**[03:52:30.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003331)  
duly supported by the majority,

**[03:52:32.980] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003332)  
to defer consideration of the proposed budget of the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

**[03:52:41.040] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003333)  
including its attached agencies.

**[03:52:43.840] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003334)  
Do we hear an objection?

**[03:52:46.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003335)  
Hearing none, said motion.

**[03:52:47.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003336)  
Motion is approved.

**[03:52:48.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003337)  
Consideration of the budget of DICT,

**[03:52:51.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003338)  
the Department of Information and Communications Technology,

**[03:52:55.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003339)  
including its attached agencies,

**[03:52:56.720] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003340)  
hereby deferred.

**[03:52:59.360] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003341)  
Session suspended.

**[04:00:00.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003377)  
May we request the DOLE family to be seated so we can start?

**[04:00:13.040] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003378)  
Session resumed.

**[04:00:15.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003379)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:00:19.000] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-003380)  
Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Labor and Employment, including its attached agencies.

**[04:00:27.280] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003381)  
An objection? Hearing none.

**[04:00:30.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003382)  
The motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Labor and Employment, including its attached agencies, is hereby open.

**[04:00:39.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003383)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:00:41.380] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-003384)  
Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Department of Labor and Employment, namely DOLE Secretary Francis Tolentino,

**[04:00:50.320] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-003385)  
TESDA Secretary Jose Francisco Kiko Benitez, Undersecretary Warren Miclat, Undersecretary Felipe Egargo Jr.,

**[04:00:59.500] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-003386)  
Undersecretary Carmela Torres, and we would also like to acknowledge the presence of the heads of attached agencies, regional directors, other officials and employees of DOLE.

**[04:01:12.180] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003387)  
The Department of Labor and Employment family, together with its attached agencies, headed by our very good friend, colleague, and former boss and mentor, Secretary Francis Tolentino,

**[04:01:26.680] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003389)  
Ang gabay at tatay ng ating mga manggagawa.

**[04:01:29.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003390)  
At kamanggagawa, maraming salamat po sa inyong pagdalo dito sa Kongreso.

**[04:01:34.760] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003391)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:01:37.120] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-003392)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Rommel Angara of the Lone District of Aurora

**[04:01:45.420] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-003393)  
and the Honorable Vice Chair Maria Angela Garcia of the Third District of Bataan to sponsor the proposed budget of DOLE.

**[04:01:54.600] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003394)  
The Honorable Vice Chair Rommel Angara is hereby recognized

**[04:01:59.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003395)  
Sponsor the budget of the Department of Labor and Employment.

**[04:02:02.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003396)  
And of course, the Honorable Vice Chair Maria Angela Garcia, sponsor of the proposed budget of TESDA, are hereby recognized.

**[04:02:11.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003397)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:02:14.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003398)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

**[04:02:18.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003399)  
Ngayong gabing ito, at tayo na po ang huling magkakaroon ng depensa sa ating budget ng ating Department of Labor and Employment,

**[04:02:25.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003400)  
kasama na po ang ating attached agencies, including TESDA.

**[04:02:29.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003401)  
For the NEP of 2027, Department of Labor and Employment has Php 47,057,355,000.

**[04:02:38.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003402)  
Sa aking mga kasamahan dito sa Kongreso, ang ating budget po noong ating 2026 GAA ay Php 61.2 billion.

**[04:02:48.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003403)  
So mayroon po tayong Php 14.1 billion na nabawas sa ating pondo na alam kong napakahalaga pagdating sa pagdating sa pagservisyo ng mandato ng ating Departamento.

**[04:02:59.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003404)  
At that same time, pagbibigay ng mga karagdagang skills to upskill our workforce in the future.

**[04:03:07.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003405)  
Ako ay naniniwala na sa ating mga kasamahan at pagdating ng ating mga susunod pa mga deliberasyon na sana ang hiling po natin ay madagdagan o may balikman lamang yung pondong kinakailangan para lubusang magampanan ng ating Departamento ang kanilang mandato.

**[04:03:23.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003406)  
Pangalawa, sa ating bagong Secretary Francis Tolentino, alam po ninyo,

**[04:03:29.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003407)  
ang mga initiatives under his new leadership na kung saan sa aking palagay ay malaki ang maitutulong para sa ating Departamento at sa ating mga laborers and workers, hindi lamang sa NCR, bagkos sa buong Pilipinas.

**[04:03:43.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003408)  
Una, ay hinihingi rin niya po sa Kongreso ang karagdagan na sana ay magkaroon ng karagdagang Php 75 million upang sa ating Labor Attorney's Office.

**[04:03:52.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003409)  
Ano po ito, aking mga kasamahan?

**[04:03:54.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003410)  
Siyempre po, alam naman po natin na ang PAO ay libre na po sa ating mga manggagawa.

**[04:03:59.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003411)  
Subalit, sa dami po ng kaso na mga kinakaharap ng ating PAO, minabuti ng ating butihing Secretary na mayroong tututok sa ating mga manggagawa, oras na ito ay magkaroon ng free legal assistance, yan po ang ating Labor Attorney's Office in conjunction o kasama po dito yung bagong itatayo na NALJ o National Academy for Labor Justice.

**[04:04:23.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003412)  
Kaya sa aking mga kasamahan, I'm sure ito po ay napakahalaga.

**[04:04:29.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003413)  
para ma-implement ngayong 2026 and moving forward hanggang 2027 para siguraduhin natin na ang ating mga workers, hindi lamang sa Metro Manila bagkos sa buong Pilipinas, ay magkaroon ng kahit papaano ay social protection at meron silang masasandalan pagdating ng oras ng kinakailangan. So Madam Speaker, this representation from the Lone District of Aurora is now ready for interpellation together with Maria Angela Garcia for TESDA. Madam Speaker, we're now open for interpellation.

**[04:04:59.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003414)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:05:02.420] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-003415)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Elijah San Fernando of Partylist Kamanggagawa to interpolate on the proposed budget of the DOLE.

**[04:05:11.380] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-003416)  
The Honorable Elijah San Fernando is hereby recognized for his interpolation.

**[04:05:17.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003417)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, at sa ating kaibigan, ang kagalang-galang na Romel Angara, sponsor po ng budget ng Department of Labor and Employment.

**[04:05:27.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003418)  
Malinaw po.

**[04:05:29.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003419)  
Ang mandato ng Department of Labor and Employment.

**[04:05:33.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003420)  
Ito ay ipagtanggol at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

**[04:05:41.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003421)  
Diyan pa lamang po, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, napakabigat na na responsibilidad ang nakaatang sa Department of Labor and Employment.

**[04:05:54.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003422)  
Pero Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:05:57.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003423)  
ang malaking tanong ng mga manggagawa,

**[04:06:03.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003424)  
bakit sa hinihinging budget ng Department of Labor and Employment,

**[04:06:09.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003425)  
67% o tumataginting na 14 bilyong piso,

**[04:06:17.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003426)  
ang ilalaan para sa DOLE, Office of the Secretary, particular sa programang tupad, Mr. Sponsor?

**[04:06:27.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003427)  
What is the question, Distinguished Colleague?

**[04:06:33.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003428)  
Bakit po, 67% o tumataginting na 14 bilyong piso, ang ilalaan ng DOLE, Office of the Secretary, sa programang tupad, Mr. Sponsor?

**[04:06:53.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003429)  
Thank you for that, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:06:56.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003430)  
Alam mo po,

**[04:06:57.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003431)  
pag dinisek mo po yung ating pondo ng Office of the Secretary,

**[04:07:01.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003432)  
kasi pagdating po, doon lang po ilalagak yan.

**[04:07:03.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003433)  
Pero eventually, pagdating ng implementation, it will be trickled down to the regional offices,

**[04:07:09.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003434)  
down to provincial levels, per district, per town,

**[04:07:11.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003435)  
para magkaroon po ng employment at tulong sa ating mga kababayan.

**[04:07:16.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003436)  
Simple as that, Madam Speaker and ating Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:07:20.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003437)  
So, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker,

**[04:07:23.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003438)  
binibigyang matwid ngayon ng Department of Labor and Employment,

**[04:07:27.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003439)  
na mahigit kalahati ng budget na hinihingi ng DOLE for the Office of the Secretary,

**[04:07:34.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003440)  
ay ilalaan sa tupad kung ang isa sa malaking mandato ng DOLE

**[04:07:40.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003441)  
ay proteksyonan, ipagtanggol, at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

**[04:07:45.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003442)  
Papaano maiintindihan ng mga manggagawa na ginagampanan ng DOLE

**[04:07:51.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003443)  
ang napakaraming mga responsibilidad na ito

**[04:07:54.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003444)  
kung 67% ng budget,

**[04:07:57.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003445)  
ay ilalagak natin sa Office of the Secretary,

**[04:08:01.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003446)  
partikular sa programang tupad.

**[04:08:04.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003447)  
Ang binabanggit po ng butihing sponsor, Madam Speaker,

**[04:08:07.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003448)  
ay para daw po makapag-provide ng mga emergency na trabaho.

**[04:08:12.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003449)  
Tama po ba ito, Mr. Sponsor?

**[04:08:13.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003450)  
That is correct, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:08:17.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003451)  
So, malinaw po ba na refleksyon ito ng labor policy ng ating pamahalaan

**[04:08:23.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003452)  
kung saan mas binibigyang prioridad ang mga emergency jobs?

**[04:08:27.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003453)  
Sa halip ng lumikha ng mga trabahong pangmatagalan at dekalidad,

**[04:08:32.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003454)  
Mr. Sponsor?

**[04:08:34.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003455)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:08:36.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003456)  
Yes, alam mo, yung tupad was started during the pandemic.

**[04:08:40.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003457)  
And I agree with you.

**[04:08:41.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003458)  
Pero you also have to understand, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:08:45.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003459)  
sa ating bansa ng Pilipinas, unfortunately,

**[04:08:48.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003460)  
nagkaroon tayo ng mga natural disasters.

**[04:08:51.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003461)  
Alam mo, pag nangyari ito, even the local governments,

**[04:08:54.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003462)  
I came from the local government,

**[04:08:55.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003463)  
minsan karamihan dyan,

**[04:08:57.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003464)  
walang pera,

**[04:08:57.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003465)  
para pang salba sa ating mga naaksidente, binagyo, so on and so forth.

**[04:09:03.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003466)  
Even pag nagkaroon ng programa para sa ating transport group,

**[04:09:07.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003467)  
papasok po ang tupad.

**[04:09:08.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003468)  
Yes, I get your point na sinasabi po ninyo na dapat lamang ba ay trabaho natin.

**[04:09:14.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003469)  
You also have to understand o dapat po nating alalanin,

**[04:09:17.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003470)  
puwera sa polisiya na paggawa ng formats, programs ng DOLE,

**[04:09:21.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003471)  
ay kinakailangan na sa mandato rin ito ay magkaroon ng trabaho para sa ating mamamayang Pilipino.

**[04:09:27.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003472)  
It is not per se na kinakailangan natin na ito ay patuloy na ginagawa,

**[04:09:34.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003473)  
pero unfortunately, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:09:37.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003474)  
ito po ay at the end of the day,

**[04:09:39.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003475)  
kada probinsya at ang buong bansa ay talaga minsan,

**[04:09:42.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003476)  
unfortunately, ay nangangailangan ng ayuda at tulong para sa ating mga mamamayan.

**[04:09:47.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003477)  
Maganda po na nabanggit, Madam Speaker,

**[04:09:50.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003478)  
ng ating butihing sponsor,

**[04:09:52.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003479)  
na meron tayong mga isinasaalang-alang na mga konsiderasyon gaya ng krisis.

**[04:09:57.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003480)  
Ngunit, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:10:01.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003481)  
hindi po tinatanggap ng representasyong ito na gagamitin dahilan ang krisis

**[04:10:06.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003482)  
para sa paglobo ng budget ng tupad.

**[04:10:10.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003483)  
In fact, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:10:13.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003484)  
makikita natin,

**[04:10:15.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003485)  
sa loob ng sampung taon mula 2016,

**[04:10:21.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003486)  
hindi nagbago, virtually the same,

**[04:10:24.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003487)  
ang pondong inilalaan

**[04:10:27.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003488)  
ng mga trabaho o mandato

**[04:10:30.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003489)  
ng Dole Office of the Secretary

**[04:10:33.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003490)  
samantalang kitang-kita

**[04:10:34.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003491)  
ang papalubo at papalaking bilang

**[04:10:37.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003492)  
ng inilalagak natin sa tupad.

**[04:10:40.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003493)  
So, hindi po maaaring sabihin

**[04:10:42.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003494)  
na dahil sa krisis, Madam Speaker,

**[04:10:45.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003495)  
dahil bago pa man magkaroon ng krisis,

**[04:10:48.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003496)  
ang Dole, batay sa kanyang budget,

**[04:10:51.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003497)  
papalaki ng papalaki ang inilalagak sa tupad

**[04:10:54.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003498)  
kaysa palakihin ang budget

**[04:10:56.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003499)  
doon sa iba pa.

**[04:10:57.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003500)  
Ano ang mga funksyon ng Department of Labor and Employment?

**[04:11:00.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003501)  
Mr. Sponsor.

**[04:11:01.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003502)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:11:04.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003503)  
I'd like to correct the facts.

**[04:11:05.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003504)  
Sa Office of the Secretary, it's not 67%, but 52%.

**[04:11:09.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003505)  
For the record, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:11:12.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003506)  
and secondly,

**[04:11:13.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003507)  
tama po, but you also have to understand,

**[04:11:16.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003508)  
tupad per se is not just tupad per se.

**[04:11:18.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003509)  
It also includes the government internship program

**[04:11:21.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003510)  
na kung saan yung ating mga fresh graduates

**[04:11:23.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003511)  
ay papasok sa ating mga gobyerno

**[04:11:25.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003512)  
upang sagayoy mag-gain sila ng employability

**[04:11:27.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003513)  
at mag-gain sila ng employability

**[04:11:27.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003514)  
alam naman po natin dito sa ating bansa

**[04:11:29.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003515)  
na kung saan karamihan ng mga ating employers

**[04:11:33.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003516)  
ay nangangailangan ng kinakailangan experience

**[04:11:35.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003517)  
para ito ay sila'y ma-hire.

**[04:11:37.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003518)  
And in fact, sabi ko nga,

**[04:11:39.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003519)  
because of this situation,

**[04:11:41.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003520)  
ay ito po ay maraming mga fresh graduates

**[04:11:43.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003521)  
ang makikinabang dito.

**[04:11:45.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003522)  
Sabi ko nga, ang isa sa mandato

**[04:11:46.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003523)  
ng ating departemento

**[04:11:47.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003524)  
ay mag-create ng ating mga trabaho

**[04:11:49.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003525)  
not only for the normal na manggagawa

**[04:11:53.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003526)  
but also sa ating mga fresh graduates

**[04:11:56.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003527)  
dito sa ating bansa.

**[04:11:56.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003528)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[04:11:57.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003529)  
Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:12:00.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003530)  
binabanggit po ng DOLE na hindi 67%,

**[04:12:03.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003531)  
kundi 52% lamang.

**[04:12:05.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003532)  
Pero malinaw po, doon sa budget ng DOLE,

**[04:12:07.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003533)  
wala naman kasing distinksyon

**[04:12:09.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003534)  
ang TUPAD at GIP.

**[04:12:11.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003535)  
So kapag sinuma natin,

**[04:12:13.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003536)  
67% ang nasa TUPAD, hindi 52%.

**[04:12:17.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003537)  
Be that as it may, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

**[04:12:20.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003538)  
ang punto natin, mahigit kalahati pa rin

**[04:12:23.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003539)  
ng pondo ang inilalagak sa TUPAD.

**[04:12:25.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003540)  
Kaya ako po ito tinanong,

**[04:12:26.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003541)  
Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:12:28.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003542)  
kasi sa 2025 COA findings,

**[04:12:32.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003543)  
sangkatutak na irregularidad ang nakita sa TUPAD.

**[04:12:37.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003544)  
Halimbawa, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:12:40.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003545)  
base sa audit findings ng COA,

**[04:12:42.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003546)  
may mga benepisaryo ang TUPAD

**[04:12:45.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003547)  
na nakakatanggap ng payout,

**[04:12:48.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003548)  
hindi lang po isang beses,

**[04:12:50.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003549)  
hindi lang dalawang beses,

**[04:12:52.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003550)  
kundi tatlo hanggang apat na beses,

**[04:12:56.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003551)  
na nakakatanggap ng payout.

**[04:12:59.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003552)  
Mismong DOLE ay nagva-violate ng guidelines o rule

**[04:13:05.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003553)  
pagdating sa TUPAD.

**[04:13:07.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003554)  
One per family per year.

**[04:13:10.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003555)  
Tapos ngayon, nagre-request uli ang Department of Labor and Employment,

**[04:13:14.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003556)  
Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:13:16.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003557)  
ng pagkalaki-laking budget na naman sa TUPAD

**[04:13:20.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003558)  
na hindi pa nare-resolve ba ang sistema dito

**[04:13:25.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003559)  
sa mga benepisaryo ng TUPAD.

**[04:13:28.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003560)  
Mr. Sponsor.

**[04:13:30.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003561)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:13:33.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003562)  
Yes, to answer directly sa ating katanungan ng ating sponsor,

**[04:13:38.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003563)  
I clarify that also to the Department.

**[04:13:41.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003564)  
Siguro ang tinutukoy niyo po dito ay yung 1,275

**[04:13:44.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003565)  
na naka-finlag ng COA, na Commission on Audit,

**[04:13:47.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003566)  
na kung saan nakatanggap ito di umano ng dalawang beses.

**[04:13:51.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003567)  
For the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:13:54.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003568)  
pinanong na po natin kung sa regional director,

**[04:13:56.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003569)  
kung saan region ito ay nangyari base doon sa ating COA report.

**[04:14:00.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003570)  
At doon po sa sinasabing 1,275, may explanation po dyan at ito po iyon.

**[04:14:06.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003571)  
Una, yung 1,275 na binabanggit ay nagkamali po yun sa database lamang.

**[04:14:12.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003572)  
Because kasama po doon sa mga 1,275 na iyon,

**[04:14:17.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003573)  
let me reiterate, Mr. Distinguished Colleague, na yes, tama ka doon sa sinabi mong isang beses lamang.

**[04:14:23.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003574)  
Pwede magtupad. Pero there's an exception to it.

**[04:14:27.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003575)  
Pag may kalamidad, pwedeng umulit po. That's for the record.

**[04:14:30.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003576)  
Pero nung ito ay nating nadiskubre doon sa database po, nagkamali lamang sa database.

**[04:14:37.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003577)  
At ito ay naayos na po natin sa Commission on Audit.

**[04:14:40.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003578)  
At kinalabasan po dito na 15 lamang out of the 1,275 ang nagkaroon ng doubling payment.

**[04:14:49.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003579)  
And for the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:14:52.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003580)  
doon sa labing limang iyon, sinigurado rin po natin, siyempre, sabi ko nga po, ang dole ay laging susunod.

**[04:15:00.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003581)  
sa alituntunin ng batas at lalo na sa sarili niyang requirement na dapat isang beses lamang bayaran ang isang nagmembro o nagtrabaho para sa tupad.

**[04:15:11.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003582)  
And for information of the body, kahit i-double check po natin, yung labing limang recipient po yun ay nakuha na po muli yung ating pondo

**[04:15:21.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003583)  
dahil nagkamali nga po at yan po ay ni-report na po namin sa COA, Madam Speaker at Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:15:27.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003584)  
Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, hindi lang po 1,275 beneficiaries. Batay po sa COA findings, meron din pong nakakuha sa Saksargen,

**[04:15:38.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003585)  
330 persons collected assistance twice, 57 collected three times, and 132 collected four times.

**[04:15:49.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003586)  
So hindi po po pwedeng gamitin na palusot ng dole na meron lang simpleng problema sa database.

**[04:15:56.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003587)  
Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, hindi po kami nagpapalusot, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:16:03.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003588)  
Based dun po sa mga binanggit po niyo sa Saksargen and the rest, all of those are already settled sa COA.

**[04:16:09.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003589)  
Sabi ko nga po, hindi po po pwedeng kami po ay very strict pertaining sa implementation ng hindi lamang sa tupad,

**[04:16:16.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003590)  
bagkos sa lahat ng programa ng ating Department of Labor and Employment.

**[04:16:19.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003591)  
At sisiguraduin ko po sa inyo, after this, we can give you the data na kung saan na binigay na po namin sa Commission on Oil,

**[04:16:26.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003592)  
at nasettle na po yung lahat ng ating gagawin.

**[04:16:28.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003593)  
In short, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, dun sa mga binanggit po natin, may ito be Saksargen, may ito be Zamboanga Peninsula,

**[04:16:35.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003594)  
at the end of the day, kahit saan po yan, sisiguraduin namin, sabi ko nga po, minsan nagkakamali at inaamin during the aking example,

**[04:16:43.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003595)  
pero sinisigurado namin, nire-retract natin ito, ginagawa natin tama at sumusunod sa alituntunin ng ating Commission on Audit, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:16:52.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003596)  
Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

**[04:16:56.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003597)  
Madam Speaker, dahil pinagtibay lang ng ating butihing sponsor, ang ating binabanggit kanina, na ang pondo, malaking pondo na inilalagak sa Dole, Office of the Secretary, ay napupunta sa Tupad,

**[04:17:09.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003598)  
at mas pinagtibay pa ito ng ating pinag-uusapan kanina. At dyan po ako tutungo.

**[04:17:14.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003599)  
Ulitin lang po natin, ano nga ba ang mandato ng Department of Labor and Employment?

**[04:17:20.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003600)  
Ipagtanggol at itaguyod ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

**[04:17:26.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003601)  
At isa sa paraan para itaguyod at ipagtanggol ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa ay sa pamamagitan ng labor inspeksyon.

**[04:17:37.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003602)  
Kaya nga po, kinikilala mismo ni Sekretary ng butihing Sekretary ng Department of Labor and Employment, kulang naman talaga ang mga labor inspectors.

**[04:17:49.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003603)  
Kaya kailangan natin dagdagan ng budget. Ito po ang malaking tanong.

**[04:17:56.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003604)  
Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, kung kinikilala ng Department of Labor and Employment ang malaking kakulangan sa mga inspektor,

**[04:18:07.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003605)  
bakit sa halip nalagakan ng mas malaking pondo ang ating mga labor inspektor ay inilalaan ito muli sa Tupad?

**[04:18:16.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003606)  
Papaano ngayon tinitindigan ng Department of Labor and Employment ang kanyang mandato?

**[04:18:20.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003607)  
Kung sa simpleng labor inspektor ay hindi nito magawang tindigan ang kanyang mandato.

**[04:18:26.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003608)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, maraming salamat po dun sa pagbigay mo ng impormasyon na iyon. Bakit?

**[04:18:33.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003609)  
Una, kasi nga po, tandaan po natin, pag in terms of plantilya positions, it has to run through the Department of Budget and Management.

**[04:18:41.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003610)  
At sinabi na rin po natin during the budget hearing, ang actual plantilya positions po natin, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ay 1,210.

**[04:18:50.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003611)  
Pero ang ating actual lamang is around 1,046.

**[04:18:54.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003612)  
At nabanggit din po sa

**[04:18:55.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003613)  
nasabing

**[04:18:56.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003614)  
budget hearing, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, sa lawak ng kakailangan inspeksyonin, and again, I'd like to quote the Secretary, sa Region 3 alone, mahigit 7,000 na ang kailangang inspeksyunin.

**[04:19:10.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003615)  
Iyon po ay isang region lamang po. Pero kapag buong kabuan, sa suma total ay halos kailangan mo ng 9,000 na labor inspectors.

**[04:19:19.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003616)  
At iyan po ay binanggit po natin nung nanakaraang budget hearing ng Department of Labor and Employment na sana,

**[04:19:25.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003617)  
not in one year, kahit staggered po, kahit within 10 years, pero sana para lalo natin mapagsilbihan yung ating mga manggagawa, maportereksyonan sila doon sa mga ating labor inspections, ay sana ay madagdagan ito eventually in the long run.

**[04:19:39.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003618)  
Kaya nga po, Mr. Sponsor, hindi po nasagot ang tanong.

**[04:19:43.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003619)  
Nangangailangan ng malaking bilang na mga labor inspector ang DOLE.

**[04:19:47.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003620)  
Pero sa halip na ilagak ng Office of the Secretary ng DOLE ang pondo sa mga labor inspector,

**[04:19:53.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003621)  
mas minarapat ng DOLE na maglagak ng mas malaking pondo sa TUPAD.

**[04:19:59.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003622)  
Hindi po sinasagot ng Department of Labor and Employment.

**[04:20:03.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003623)  
TUPAD? Labor Inspector.

**[04:20:07.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003624)  
Just to prove a point, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:20:11.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003625)  
alam niyo po kung gaano ka-absurd yung itsura ng budget ng Department of Labor and Employment, Office of the Secretary?

**[04:20:19.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003626)  
Admin cost ng TUPAD?

**[04:20:21.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003627)  
712 million pesos.

**[04:20:27.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003628)  
Samantala, ang sahod ng mga labor inspector, 605 million pesos lang.

**[04:20:35.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003629)  
Ano ba namang klaseng kalokohan yan, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor?

**[04:20:39.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003630)  
Mas malaki ang nilalagak sa admin cost ng TUPAD kaysa pagpapasahod ng mga labor inspector.

**[04:20:47.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003631)  
Batid po ba ng Department of Labor and Employment?

**[04:20:49.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003632)  
Gaano kahirap ang buhay ng mga inspector?

**[04:20:52.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003633)  
Ako po mismo, ang kinatawang ito, ay sumama sa mga inspector sa Laguna.

**[04:20:56.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003634)  
Tapos ang maririnig po natin ngayon, eh mas okay na na mas lakihan ng budget sa TUPAD kaysa sa mga labor inspector.

**[04:21:03.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003635)  
At ang gagamitin na dahilan, eh keso kulang ang budget o mahirap yung mga proseso.

**[04:21:09.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003636)  
Hindi po maunawaan nito, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor ng mga manggagawa.

**[04:21:17.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003637)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[04:21:18.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003638)  
unang-unang, I'd like to go back na sinabi mong hindi nasagot.

**[04:21:21.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003639)  
Sinagot ko po yung katanungan.

**[04:21:23.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003640)  
Kasi nga po, hindi naman nakalagak yan sa DOLE per se.

**[04:21:27.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003641)  
Kaya nga po hinihingi ng aming Departamento.

**[04:21:31.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003642)  
Again, I'm sure you're familiar, alam mo po yung proseso, Congressman Eli,

**[04:21:35.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003643)  
na hindi basta-basta ay pipwedeng ikaw ay maglagay lamang ng ating mga inspectors.

**[04:21:40.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003644)  
It has to go through the process, DBM, so on and so forth.

**[04:21:43.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003645)  
And yun po ay sinagot po natin nung ulang statement po agad natin.

**[04:21:46.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003646)  
Ngayon, patukol naman ito, eh.

**[04:21:47.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003647)  
Ngayon, patukol naman doon sa ating mga pasweldo ng ating mga ano,

**[04:21:51.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003648)  
based doon sa records po namin,

**[04:21:55.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003649)  
yung 524 million na pasweldo natin,

**[04:21:58.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003650)  
P.S.

**[04:21:59.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003651)  
mas mataas po kesa doon sa ating

**[04:22:01.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003652)  
P.S. pa lang po ang binibilang natin dito, Mr. Sponsor.

**[04:22:05.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003653)  
So kapag sinuma natin, mas malaki pa rin ang admin cost ng tupad

**[04:22:08.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003654)  
kaysa sa pasweldo ng mga labor inspector.

**[04:22:12.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003655)  
Mr. Sponsor?

**[04:22:14.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003656)  
Pasweldo? Ano pa yung admin?

**[04:22:16.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003657)  
Yes. It is the part of the...

**[04:22:19.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003658)  
parte po yun nung sa ating sweldo, Madam Speaker,

**[04:22:22.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003659)  
Kaya nga po, yun po ang binabigit po.

**[04:22:24.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003660)  
Kasi admin cost po kasi is 5%. Diba?

**[04:22:26.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003661)  
Tama po. Nasa special provision. Tama po.

**[04:22:28.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003662)  
Yes. That's correct.

**[04:22:29.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003663)  
Kaya ang pinupunto po ng kinatawang ito, eh bakit mas malaki ang hinihinging budget

**[04:22:33.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003664)  
ng DOLE Office of the Secretary sa tupad,

**[04:22:37.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003665)  
5% of which mapupunta sa admin cost,

**[04:22:40.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003666)  
samantalang napakalaki ng problema at pangangailangan sa mga labor inspector.

**[04:22:44.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003667)  
This is what I'm pointing about.

**[04:22:45.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003668)  
Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:22:47.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003669)  
ang daming dapat nai-inspect ng mga business establishments

**[04:22:51.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003670)  
pero mas pinipili ng Department of Labor and Employment

**[04:22:54.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003671)  
na maglagak sa tupad.

**[04:22:56.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003672)  
Eh paano matitiyak na napoproteksyonan ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa

**[04:23:00.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003673)  
kung puro tupad ang Department of Labor and Employment?

**[04:23:06.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003674)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[04:23:08.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003675)  
sabi ko nga po kanina,

**[04:23:10.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003676)  
pertaining doon sa ating tupad,

**[04:23:12.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003677)  
it is not only per se na tupad.

**[04:23:14.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003678)  
Binanggit niyo po yan sa ating Government Internship Program.

**[04:23:18.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003679)  
Pero pag sino matutal mo po, hindi naman po kami nagkulang pertaining sa ating pinaglalaban.

**[04:23:22.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003680)  
I agree with you. Bakit?

**[04:23:24.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003681)  
Kaya nga po kami nagre-request ng karagdagan.

**[04:23:28.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003682)  
That was clear as day na sana kung kami ay tutulungan ng kapulungan na ito

**[04:23:33.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003683)  
kasama ang Senado at ating national budget,

**[04:23:35.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003684)  
kaya nga po ang kinakailangan na plantilya positions

**[04:23:39.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003685)  
based sa ating statement nung ating budget healing

**[04:23:42.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003686)  
ay 9,000 na labor inspectors ang kailangan.

**[04:23:46.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003687)  
Alam mo, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[04:23:49.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003688)  
it is very very difficult to balance everything.

**[04:23:52.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003689)  
Maraming pangangailangan pero ito ay kapos lamang.

**[04:23:55.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003690)  
Maraming mandato ang ating Departamento.

**[04:23:58.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003691)  
One, magbigay ng trabaho.

**[04:24:00.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003692)  
Pangalawa, to secure the safetiness of our workers in every aspect possible.

**[04:24:06.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003693)  
So sabi ko nga po, hindi naman tayo magkakaroon ng malaking problema

**[04:24:10.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003694)  
kung ito ay sapat yung ating pondo.

**[04:24:13.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003695)  
But, kahit hindi po sapat yung pondo namin,

**[04:24:16.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003696)  
ito po ay nagagampanan naman namin yung aming trabaho.

**[04:24:19.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003697)  
Yan ay based dun sa results ng ating mga performance sa NLRC,

**[04:24:23.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003698)  
sa ating mga patrabaho, sa job start.

**[04:24:26.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003699)  
In fact, nung September 14, nagkaroon po tayo ng nationwide na programa

**[04:24:32.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003700)  
ang ating Department of Labor and Employment.

**[04:24:34.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003701)  
So again, we are not just focused o di lang kami nagtutuon sa isang programa.

**[04:24:39.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003702)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:24:41.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003703)  
Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker, hindi nga po nagtutugma yung binabanggit nyo

**[04:24:47.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003704)  
doon sa budget allocation ng DOLE.

**[04:24:50.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003705)  
Sinasabi nyo napakaraming responsibilidad ng DOLE.

**[04:24:54.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003706)  
Pero malaking bahagdan ay napupunta nga doon sa TUPAD.

**[04:24:59.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003707)  
So hindi po sinagot ng distinguished sponsor natin yung problema ang hinaharap.

**[04:25:04.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003708)  
Sinasabi nyo po, kailangan dagdagan ng budget.

**[04:25:07.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003709)  
Eh bakit hindi natin gawin?

**[04:25:09.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003710)  
Ilagak yung mas malaking bahagi na nilaalaan natin doon sa TUPAD,

**[04:25:13.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003711)  
ibigay natin doon sa ibang mandato at functions.

**[04:25:17.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003712)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:25:19.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003713)  
Sinagot ko po kanina, with all due respect,

**[04:25:22.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003714)  
hindi ka po pa pwedeng maglagay ng labor inspectors first.

**[04:25:27.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003715)  
Kahit may pondo ka po, kinakailangan may plantilla positions first.

**[04:25:30.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003716)  
That I understand, Mr. Sponsor.

**[04:25:32.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003717)  
So would you agree with me that at the appropriate time,

**[04:25:36.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003718)  
magkakaroon ng amyenda sa budget,

**[04:25:39.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003719)  
ng Department of Labor and Employment, Office of the Secretary,

**[04:25:42.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003720)  
at ilagak natin sa iba pang functions ng Department of Labor and Employment,

**[04:25:47.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003721)  
instead of putting it all together,

**[04:25:49.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003722)  
more than half of the budget sa TUPAD?

**[04:25:51.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003723)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:25:52.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003724)  
Alam po nyo, as I've mentioned earlier,

**[04:25:55.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003725)  
ang Departamento ay lagi sumusunod sa batas.

**[04:25:58.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003726)  
At ang Kongreso, na sinasabi nyo po, I will quote you,

**[04:26:01.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003727)  
na pag kayo ay nilipat mo yung pondo,

**[04:26:05.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003728)  
we will adhere to the wisdom of both houses,

**[04:26:08.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003729)  
of both houses of Congress.

**[04:26:10.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003730)  
That's all, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:26:12.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003731)  
Tama po yun.

**[04:26:13.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003732)  
Kongreso ang naglalagak at nagde-desisyon sa budget.

**[04:26:18.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003733)  
Pero kung titignan natin, kahit Kongreso ang naglalagak sa budget,

**[04:26:22.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003734)  
makikita natin ang DOLE nagre-request pa rin

**[04:26:26.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003735)  
ng mas malaki batay doon sa benchmark

**[04:26:29.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003736)  
ng nakaraang pondo sa TUPAD.

**[04:26:32.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003737)  
Kaya pinapatibay lang nito ang pondo, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:26:36.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003738)  
na mas focused ang DOLE sa TUPAD kaysa sa ibang functions nito.

**[04:26:41.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003739)  
Sunod na po na tanong, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[04:26:44.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003740)  
Noong September 7, pinirmahan ang Wage Order No. 28.

**[04:26:49.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003741)  
Sa proseso ng paglalabas ng Wage Order,

**[04:26:52.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003742)  
dapat may public hearing.

**[04:26:55.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003743)  
Dapat gawin ang nakasulat sa Rule 3, Section 3C of the Omnibus Guidelines on Minimum Wage,

**[04:27:05.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003744)  
Determination.

**[04:27:07.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003745)  
And I quote,

**[04:27:09.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003746)  
The chairperson shall make a preliminary statement

**[04:27:15.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003747)  
to apprise the attendees of the purposes of the public hearing,

**[04:27:20.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003748)  
such as to thresh out petitions for wage increase filed,

**[04:27:26.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003749)  
assess the socio-economic condition in the region,

**[04:27:29.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003750)  
gather relevant data and information prior to the issuance of a wage order.

**[04:27:34.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003751)  
So ibig sabihin, pag nagkaroon ng public consultation or hearing,

**[04:27:38.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003752)  
dapat i-apprise ng chairperson ng Regional Wage Board

**[04:27:43.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003753)  
yung mga attendees kung saan, patungkol saan ang meeting.

**[04:27:47.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003754)  
Question, ginawa ba ito ng Regional Wage Board, Department of Labor and Employment?

**[04:27:57.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003755)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes, patungkol po sa Wage Order No. 28.

**[04:28:02.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003756)  
I have with me doon sa September 2 notice of meeting.

**[04:28:05.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003757)  
At nakalagay po dito, I'd like to, if you will allow me, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:28:10.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003758)  
One, the venue will be at the Occupational Safety and Health Center.

**[04:28:13.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003759)  
Yan po yung patawag. Tama po ba?

**[04:28:16.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003760)  
Yes, that's correct.

**[04:28:17.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003761)  
Okay po, sa agenda po tayo at doon particular sa tanong ko,

**[04:28:20.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003762)  
inapprise ba ng Regional Director ng DOLE-NCR ang mga attendees tungkol saan ang meeting?

**[04:28:27.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003763)  
That is a very simple question to the DOLE.

**[04:28:30.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003764)  
Yes.

**[04:28:31.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003765)  
Yes, okay po, Mr. Sponsor.

**[04:28:34.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003766)  
Pwede po bang ibaling ko ang inyong atensyon sa video na makikita natin ngayon?

**[04:28:41.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003767)  
Pakiplay po.

**[04:29:01.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003768)  
Maraming salamat po. Pwede na pong itigil yan.

**[04:29:04.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003769)  
I am quoting directly the Department of Labor and Employment-NCR Regional Director.

**[04:29:11.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003770)  
We questioned DOLE during that time tungkol saan ang meeting na ito.

**[04:29:16.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003771)  
Ano ang sagot ng Regional Director, Department of Labor and Employment?

**[04:29:20.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003772)  
Pinupulsuhan lang naman namin ang mga manggagawa.

**[04:29:25.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003773)  
There was no mention whatsoever about a wage order.

**[04:29:30.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003774)  
Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker?

**[04:29:32.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003775)  
Madam Speaker and distinguished colleagues, let me first finish doon sa ating binabasa ko kanina, naputol po kasi.

**[04:29:41.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003776)  
Mr. Sponsor, naiintindihan na po namin yan kasi yan po yung sasabihin doon sa inbitasyon.

**[04:29:47.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003777)  
Tapos na po ako sa inbitasyon, nandoon na po ako sa appraisal ng DOLE-NCR Regional Director.

**[04:29:54.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003778)  
Inapprise niya ba yung mga attendees sa public consultation?

**[04:30:13.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003782)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:30:15.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003783)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:30:16.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003784)  
I just got the information

**[04:30:17.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003785)  
that the answer is yes.

**[04:30:19.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003786)  
And sinabi naman po

**[04:30:20.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003787)  
ng ating Regional Director...

**[04:30:21.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003788)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:30:22.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003789)  
I will cut you there

**[04:30:23.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003790)  
dahil naiintindihan ko po

**[04:30:24.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003791)  
ang posisyon nyo.

**[04:30:26.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003792)  
But the Regional Director of NCR

**[04:30:28.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003793)  
is lying through his teeth.

**[04:30:32.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003794)  
We questioned you up front.

**[04:30:37.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003795)  
Wala po siyang sinabi,

**[04:30:39.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003796)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:30:42.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003797)  
Mr. Sponsor.

**[04:30:44.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003798)  
Ang binanggit po ay,

**[04:30:45.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003799)  
nandun po ang kinatawang ito

**[04:30:46.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003800)  
and we have video proof.

**[04:30:49.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003801)  
Pinupulsuhan lang naman namin

**[04:30:51.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003802)  
ang mga manggagawa.

**[04:30:53.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003803)  
Nilabag kung anong nakasulat

**[04:30:55.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003804)  
sa omnibus rules

**[04:30:56.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003805)  
on minimum wage determination.

**[04:30:58.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003806)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:31:02.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003807)  
Dole is lying

**[04:31:03.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003808)  
here in this August Chamber.

**[04:31:07.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003809)  
And I demand,

**[04:31:08.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003810)  
we demand

**[04:31:08.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003811)  
the copy of the minutes

**[04:31:11.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003812)  
of the meeting

**[04:31:12.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003813)  
that was conducted that time

**[04:31:14.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003814)  
and we will challenge that.

**[04:31:16.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003815)  
Especially coming from

**[04:31:17.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003816)  
the Regional Director

**[04:31:18.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003817)  
of Dole NCR.

**[04:31:21.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003818)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:31:22.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003819)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:31:24.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003820)  
hiningi po nyo

**[04:31:25.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003821)  
ng ating kasamahan,

**[04:31:27.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003822)  
yung ating minutes.

**[04:31:28.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003823)  
During the September 2

**[04:31:29.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003824)  
public hearing.

**[04:31:30.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003825)  
And we will oblige to that,

**[04:31:32.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003826)  
Your Honor,

**[04:31:33.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003827)  
Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:31:34.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003828)  
Thank you po.

**[04:31:35.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003829)  
Sige,

**[04:31:36.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003830)  
kunwari na lang,

**[04:31:37.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003831)  
kahit harap-harap

**[04:31:38.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003832)  
ang nagsisinungaling

**[04:31:39.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003833)  
sa bulwagang ito,

**[04:31:41.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003834)  
nagawa,

**[04:31:42.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003835)  
o sinunod yung Dole,

**[04:31:43.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003836)  
sinunod ng Dole

**[04:31:44.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003837)  
yung sarili niyang guidelines.

**[04:31:46.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003838)  
Ang proseso,

**[04:31:48.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003839)  
dapat mag-meeting

**[04:31:49.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003840)  
ang National Wages

**[04:31:50.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003841)  
and Productivity Commission

**[04:31:52.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003842)  
at aprobahan

**[04:31:53.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003843)  
ang bagong wage order.

**[04:31:56.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003844)  
Question,

**[04:31:57.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003845)  
nagkaroon ba

**[04:31:58.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003846)  
ng inyong

**[04:31:58.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003847)  
NWPC meeting?

**[04:32:00.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003848)  
What date, sir?

**[04:32:02.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003849)  
September?

**[04:32:03.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003850)  
No, I'm asking

**[04:32:03.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003851)  
the Department of Labor

**[04:32:05.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003852)  
and Employment,

**[04:32:05.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003853)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:32:06.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003854)  
nagkaroon ba ng meeting

**[04:32:07.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003855)  
ang National Wages

**[04:32:09.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003856)  
and Productivity Commission?

**[04:32:10.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003857)  
Yes.

**[04:32:11.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003858)  
When was the meeting held?

**[04:32:14.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003859)  
Yes, yung nga po,

**[04:32:15.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003860)  
September 10.

**[04:32:15.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003861)  
September 10.

**[04:32:16.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003862)  
Where?

**[04:32:21.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003863)  
It's

**[04:32:22.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003864)  
Room 206,

**[04:32:24.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003865)  
Manila Hotel.

**[04:32:24.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003866)  
Ayan!

**[04:32:26.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003867)  
Let me direct your attention,

**[04:32:27.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003868)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:32:28.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003869)  
or Madam Speaker,

**[04:32:29.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003870)  
to this video.

**[04:32:30.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003871)  
Thank you.

**[04:32:36.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003872)  
Ang patawag po

**[04:32:44.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003873)  
na meeting

**[04:32:45.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003874)  
ay dapat sa

**[04:32:47.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003875)  
The Urum

**[04:32:47.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003876)  
Manila Hotel.

**[04:32:50.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003877)  
Pumunta kami

**[04:32:51.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003878)  
1pm

**[04:32:53.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003879)  
para imbitahin

**[04:32:55.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003880)  
ng aming sarili

**[04:32:56.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003881)  
dahil ang pinag-uusapan

**[04:32:57.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003882)  
ng National Wages

**[04:32:57.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003883)  
and Productivity Commission

**[04:32:59.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003884)  
ay tungkol sa sahod

**[04:33:01.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003885)  
ng mga manggagawa.

**[04:33:02.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003886)  
Pero wala kaming nadatnan

**[04:33:04.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003887)  
ng mga tao

**[04:33:05.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003888)  
dun sa meeting.

**[04:33:06.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003889)  
At binabanggit po

**[04:33:07.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003890)  
ng sponsor,

**[04:33:09.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003891)  
nagkaroon daw

**[04:33:09.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003892)  
ng meeting,

**[04:33:11.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003893)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:33:12.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003894)  
sa ibang room.

**[04:33:14.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003895)  
So, itinatago

**[04:33:15.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003896)  
ng Department of Labor

**[04:33:16.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003897)  
and Employment

**[04:33:17.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003898)  
yung meeting na ito.

**[04:33:19.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003899)  
Isa pang punto,

**[04:33:20.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003900)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:33:22.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003901)  
nagsayang

**[04:33:23.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003902)  
ang Department of Labor

**[04:33:24.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003903)  
and Employment

**[04:33:25.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003904)  
ng pondo

**[04:33:26.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003905)  
ng mga manggagawa

**[04:33:27.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003907)  
Para sa isang meeting

**[04:33:29.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003908)  
na hindi naman naganap

**[04:33:30.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003909)  
doon sa original

**[04:33:31.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003910)  
na dapat nitong pagganapan.

**[04:33:34.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003911)  
Tapos ang sasabihin natin,

**[04:33:36.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003912)  
we have very limited

**[04:33:37.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003913)  
fiscal space.

**[04:33:39.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003914)  
Naglulustay ng pondo

**[04:33:40.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003915)  
ang Department of Labor

**[04:33:41.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003916)  
and Employment.

**[04:33:43.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003917)  
Tinago sa mga manggagawa

**[04:33:44.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003918)  
ang meeting na ito.

**[04:33:47.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003919)  
Ang sasabihin nila,

**[04:33:48.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003920)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:33:49.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003921)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:33:50.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003922)  
confidential naman daw

**[04:33:51.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003923)  
ang meeting.

**[04:33:52.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003924)  
We cannot accept

**[04:33:54.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003925)  
that excuse.

**[04:33:55.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003926)  
Tinataguan

**[04:33:56.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003927)  
ng dole

**[04:33:57.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003928)  
ang mga manggagawa.

**[04:33:57.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003929)  
Can I respond,

**[04:34:02.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003930)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:34:02.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003931)  
Distinguished Colleague?

**[04:34:05.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003932)  
Yes,

**[04:34:06.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003933)  
patukoy naman doon

**[04:34:07.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003934)  
sa meeting na sinabinabanggit

**[04:34:08.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003935)  
ng ating kasamahan.

**[04:34:10.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003936)  
At ang tugon po natin dyan,

**[04:34:11.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003937)  
yes,

**[04:34:12.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003938)  
it really happened.

**[04:34:14.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003939)  
And two,

**[04:34:14.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003940)  
para sa ating kaalaman

**[04:34:17.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003941)  
o kalinawan

**[04:34:17.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003942)  
ng ating mga kasamahan

**[04:34:19.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003943)  
at baka rin nanunood

**[04:34:20.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003944)  
sa ating mga

**[04:34:20.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003945)  
ngayong araw na ito,

**[04:34:22.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003946)  
ay hindi po namin

**[04:34:23.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003947)  
tinatago

**[04:34:24.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003948)  
yung nasabing meeting.

**[04:34:25.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003949)  
In fact,

**[04:34:26.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003950)  
sabi ko nga,

**[04:34:27.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003951)  
yung pag-transfer

**[04:34:28.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003952)  
ng room

**[04:34:31.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003953)  
ay because of

**[04:34:31.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003954)  
some disruptions.

**[04:34:33.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-003955)  
Disruption!

**[04:34:35.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003956)  
Yes,

**[04:34:36.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003957)  
so,

**[04:34:36.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003958)  
yung

**[04:34:36.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003959)  
September 10,

**[04:34:38.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003960)  
2026

**[04:34:38.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003961)  
NWPC Review Meeting

**[04:34:40.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003962)  
legally valid

**[04:34:41.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003963)  
despite the shortened notice

**[04:34:42.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003964)  
to transfer from

**[04:34:43.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003965)  
that dao room

**[04:34:44.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003966)  
to room 260

**[04:34:45.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003967)  
of the Manero Hotel.

**[04:34:47.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003968)  
Ngayon,

**[04:34:47.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003969)  
sasabihin po,

**[04:34:49.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003970)  
naririnig ko po kayo,

**[04:34:50.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003971)  
distinguished colleague,

**[04:34:51.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003972)  
and

**[04:34:51.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003973)  
siguro mas maganda

**[04:34:54.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003974)  
ay para

**[04:34:54.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003975)  
hindi mo po sinasabi

**[04:34:56.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003976)  
na kami po ay

**[04:34:57.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003977)  
mag-transfer.

**[04:34:57.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003978)  
May tinatago

**[04:34:58.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003979)  
ang Department of Labor

**[04:34:59.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003980)  
of Employment.

**[04:35:00.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003981)  
Willing naman po tayo

**[04:35:00.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003982)  
na ilabas yung minutes

**[04:35:02.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003983)  
nung ating pinag-usapan

**[04:35:04.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003984)  
during that

**[04:35:04.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003985)  
said meeting.

**[04:35:05.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003986)  
And,

**[04:35:06.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003987)  
para sa kalaman po

**[04:35:07.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003988)  
ng lahat,

**[04:35:08.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003989)  
hindi po ito tinatago

**[04:35:09.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003990)  
o sinasabing

**[04:35:10.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003991)  
secret meeting.

**[04:35:11.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003992)  
Bakit?

**[04:35:12.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003993)  
Kasi present naman po

**[04:35:13.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003994)  
yung ating labor groups

**[04:35:14.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003995)  
during those

**[04:35:15.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003996)  
meeting.

**[04:35:16.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003997)  
And,

**[04:35:17.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003998)  
makikita rin po natin yan

**[04:35:18.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-003999)  
dun sa ating minutes

**[04:35:19.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004000)  
ng ating

**[04:35:19.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004001)  
sinabing

**[04:35:21.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004002)  
September 10

**[04:35:22.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004003)  
meeting.

**[04:35:23.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004004)  
That's all,

**[04:35:24.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004005)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:35:25.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004006)  
distinguished colleague.

**[04:35:25.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004007)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[04:35:26.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004008)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:35:27.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004009)  
hindi po katanggap-tanggap

**[04:35:29.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004010)  
ang excuse

**[04:35:31.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004011)  
ng Department of Labor

**[04:35:32.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004012)  
and Employment.

**[04:35:34.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004013)  
Sabi nyo po,

**[04:35:35.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004014)  
merong labor groups

**[04:35:36.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004015)  
na present

**[04:35:37.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004016)  
nandoon

**[04:35:37.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004017)  
ang buong National Wage

**[04:35:38.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004018)  
Coalition.

**[04:35:40.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004019)  
Tinaguan

**[04:35:41.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004020)  
ang Department of Labor

**[04:35:42.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004021)  
and Employment.

**[04:35:43.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004022)  
At ang punto dito,

**[04:35:45.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004023)  
kung nagkaroon man

**[04:35:46.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004024)  
ng ibang meeting

**[04:35:47.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004025)  
doon sa same venue,

**[04:35:49.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004026)  
nagsasayang kayo

**[04:35:50.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004027)  
ng pondo

**[04:35:50.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004028)  
para pagtaguan

**[04:35:52.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004029)  
yung mga manggagawa.

**[04:35:53.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004030)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:35:55.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004031)  
ang binabanggit po nila

**[04:35:56.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004032)  
disruptor.

**[04:35:57.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004033)  
Ang mga manggagawa.

**[04:35:58.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004034)  
Nanggugulo daw

**[04:35:59.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004035)  
ang mga manggagawa,

**[04:36:00.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004036)  
Madam Speaker.

**[04:36:02.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004037)  
We are not disrupting anything.

**[04:36:03.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004038)  
In fact,

**[04:36:04.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004039)  
the Executive Director

**[04:36:05.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004040)  
of National Wages

**[04:36:06.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004041)  
and Productivity Commission

**[04:36:08.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004042)  
denied

**[04:36:09.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004043)  
to receive

**[04:36:10.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004044)  
our letter,

**[04:36:11.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004045)  
our position paper.

**[04:36:13.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004046)  
At ang lakas ng loob

**[04:36:14.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004047)  
ng Department of Labor

**[04:36:15.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004048)  
and Employment

**[04:36:16.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004049)  
na sabihin,

**[04:36:17.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004050)  
may disruption

**[04:36:17.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004051)  
kaya lumipat sila

**[04:36:18.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004052)  
ng meeting.

**[04:36:20.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004053)  
Simple lang ang punto,

**[04:36:21.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004054)  
Madam Speaker.

**[04:36:23.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004055)  
Itinatago ng Department

**[04:36:24.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004056)  
of Labor and Employment

**[04:36:25.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004057)  
yung pulong tungkol sa

**[04:36:27.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004058)  
sahod ng mga manggagawa

**[04:36:28.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004059)  
na sila-sila lang

**[04:36:29.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004060)  
ang nag-uusap.

**[04:36:30.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004061)  
Last question,

**[04:36:31.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004062)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:36:32.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004063)  
Mr. Sponsor.

**[04:36:35.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004064)  
Sabi sa Wage Order

**[04:36:36.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004065)  
number 28,

**[04:36:39.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004066)  
Wage Order number 27

**[04:36:42.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004067)  
never took effect.

**[04:36:45.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004068)  
In popular parlance,

**[04:36:47.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004069)  
panaginip

**[04:36:49.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004070)  
o guni-guni lang daw

**[04:36:51.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004071)  
ang 85 pesos na dagdag-sahod.

**[04:36:54.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004072)  
Chapter 3,

**[04:36:55.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004073)  
Section 4 of the IRR,

**[04:36:56.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004074)  
Paro of R.I.6727,

**[04:36:58.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004075)  
any wage order

**[04:36:59.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004076)  
shall take effect

**[04:37:01.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004077)  
15 days after publication.

**[04:37:04.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004078)  
July 9, na-publish.

**[04:37:06.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004079)  
July 25, effective.

**[04:37:08.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004080)  
At mismong si Sekretary Tolentino

**[04:37:10.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004081)  
ng Department of Labor and Employment

**[04:37:12.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004082)  
ang nag-announce

**[04:37:13.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004083)  
ng makasaysayan daw

**[04:37:15.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004084)  
na wage increase.

**[04:37:17.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004085)  
Ngayon,

**[04:37:18.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004086)  
isinusuko ba

**[04:37:19.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004087)  
ng Department of Labor and Employment

**[04:37:21.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004088)  
ang Wage Order No. 27

**[04:37:24.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004089)  
at pinapalitan na ito

**[04:37:25.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004090)  
ng Wage Order No.

**[04:37:26.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004091)  
28?

**[04:37:28.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004093)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:37:29.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004094)  
Distinguse Colleague,

**[04:37:30.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004095)  
napakaganda po ng iyong katanungan.

**[04:37:33.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004096)  
Unang-una, kalinawan po,

**[04:37:34.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004097)  
yung Wage Order No. 27, alam naman po natin at alam din ng ating distinguished colleague na

**[04:37:40.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004098)  
nagkaroon una ng TRO, pangalawa, nagkaroon ng injunction.

**[04:37:43.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004099)  
Ang tinatanong niyo po

**[04:37:45.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004100)  
kung dini-disregard na po namin ang Wage Order 28?

**[04:37:47.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004101)  
The answer is no.

**[04:37:49.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004102)  
Alam mo po, ginagalang

**[04:37:51.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004103)  
ng Department

**[04:37:52.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004104)  
of Labor and Employment

**[04:37:53.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004105)  
ang ating legal proceedings,

**[04:37:54.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004106)  
which we abide by it.

**[04:37:55.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004107)  
But our official stand, para alam po ng ating mga kababayan at ng ating 1.1 million na manggagawa sa Metro Manila,

**[04:38:03.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004108)  
hindi po binibitawan ng Department of Labor and Employment ang Wage Order 27.

**[04:38:10.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004109)  
In fact, ang ating sekretary pa mismo ang nag-file sa ating mga korte na kung saan ang tindig o opisyal na tindig ng ating Departamento

**[04:38:21.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004110)  
together with the Office of the Solicitor General na dapat ito ay legal kasi walang jurisdiction ang korte

**[04:38:30.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004111)  
at dapat ito ay ipatupad ng ating mga korts at dapat sana ayaw makialam.

**[04:38:36.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004112)  
So in fact, yung ating Wage Order 28 na 60 pesos, and ito po, importanteng-importante po ito, Madam Speaker. Bakit?

**[04:38:45.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004113)  
Yung Wage Order 28, 60 pesos.

**[04:38:49.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004114)  
Doon sa Wage Order 27,

**[04:38:51.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004115)  
85 pesos.

**[04:38:53.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004116)  
Pero, nakakalimutan banggitin doon lagi na sa Wage Order 27, sa taong 2026, ay it's also 60 pesos.

**[04:39:02.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004117)  
Patunay lamang, patapusin mo ako, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:39:05.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004118)  
sapagkat sa pagkakataong yun, makikita natin na ang Departamento ay nagtatrabaho. Bakit?

**[04:39:14.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004119)  
Simpleng-simple lang naman, kung kami walang malasakit o hindi ginagampanan ang aming tungkulin,

**[04:39:20.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004120)  
[unclear] sana,

**[04:39:21.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004121)  
pinabayaan na lang namin yung Wage Order 27.

**[04:39:24.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004122)  
Subalit hindi.

**[04:39:25.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004123)  
Sa mandato na binigay ng Kongreso at Senado at ang taong bayan,

**[04:39:29.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004124)  
ang ating Wage Board, kumilos, nagpulong, nagpublic hearing,

**[04:39:34.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004125)  
para sa gayo yung magkaroon ng economic relief o katumbas ng ating 60 pesos na dapat dagdag sa Wage Order number 27.

**[04:39:42.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004126)  
So yung Wage Order number 28 is separate from Wage Order 27.

**[04:39:49.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004127)  
Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, at least.

**[04:39:51.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004128)  
Thank you.

**[04:39:51.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004129)  
Madam Speaker, this is of paramount importance.

**[04:39:56.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004130)  
At ito po ang pagkakataon, Madam Speaker, na maliwanagan ang milyong-milyong mga manggagawa.

**[04:40:02.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004131)  
So with the indulgence of our distinguished sponsor and Madam Speaker,

**[04:40:08.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004132)  
just a few more questions, Madam Speaker.

**[04:40:10.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004133)  
Just one more question.

**[04:40:12.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004134)  
Clarification on that matter.

**[04:40:14.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004135)  
Binabanggit po ng Department of Labor and Employment na hindi isinusuko ang Wage Order 27,

**[04:40:20.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004136)  
but in effect,

**[04:40:21.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004137)  
sinusuko nila.

**[04:40:22.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004138)  
Malinaw ang sinasabi.

**[04:40:24.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004139)  
If there is no bond, there is no injunction.

**[04:40:27.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004140)  
That is the rules of court.

**[04:40:29.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004141)  
Walang legal impediment, sabi ng Office of the Secretary General,

**[04:40:33.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004142)  
para ipatupad ang Wage Order 27.

**[04:40:36.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004143)  
Binabanggit ng distinguished sponsor, ipatutupad ang Wage Order 28 bilang pamamaraan para ibigay sa mga manggagawa

**[04:40:44.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004144)  
yung 60 pesos mula doon sa first tranche.

**[04:40:49.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004145)  
Pero hindi po yun ang punto.

**[04:40:51.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004146)  
Mula July 25, dahil walang hurisdiksyon ang Korte, kayo na po mismo ang nagsabi.

**[04:40:57.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004147)  
Dapat matanggap na ng bawat isang minimum wage earner yung 60 pesos.

**[04:41:02.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004148)  
Ibig sabihin, may kakulangan, may utang sa mga manggagawa na mahigit 3,000 piso.

**[04:41:07.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004149)  
Ito po ang binabanggit natin, Mr. Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[04:41:11.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004150)  
Hindi po maaaring isuplant ng Wage Order 28 yung Wage Order 27.

**[04:41:16.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004151)  
So ang tanong dito, nilabag na nga ng DOLE.

**[04:41:20.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004152)  
Ang sarili niyang guidelines na isang order lang ang ilalabas per year.

**[04:41:25.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004153)  
Tapos sinasabi niya na gumawa siya ng pamamaraan para maibigay yung unang tranche, 60 pesos.

**[04:41:32.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004154)  
Pero kung susumahin natin, 60 pesos lang ang dagdag-saud sa Wage Order 28.

**[04:41:38.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004155)  
Ibig sabihin po ba, maglalabas ang DOLE ng panibagong Wage Order

**[04:41:42.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004156)  
para i-cover yung natitira mula doon sa Wage Order 27?

**[04:41:47.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004157)  
Mas pinapagulo ng DOLE.

**[04:41:50.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004158)  
ang kanyang buhay at ang kanyang sarili, pati ang mga manggagawa.

**[04:41:55.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004159)  
Naiintindihan ko po ang binabanggit ng ating butihing sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[04:42:00.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004160)  
Sasabihin nila na pamamaraan.

**[04:42:02.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004161)  
Pero hindi po makuha ng mga manggagawa ang tindig ng Department of Labor and Employment

**[04:42:07.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004162)  
na hindi nito bibitawan at isusuko ang Wage Order 27

**[04:42:11.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004163)  
at ipapatupad nito ang Wage Order 27 na malinaw na nakasulat sa batas.

**[04:42:16.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004164)  
DOLE na lang po ang hindi naniniwala na kaya niyang ipatupad.

**[04:42:20.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004165)  
Ang Wage Order, Madam Speaker.

**[04:42:23.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004166)  
Madam Speaker, I will end here.

**[04:42:26.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004167)  
Ang aming paniniwala po, kung hindi kayang tindigan ng Department of Labor and Employment

**[04:42:32.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004168)  
ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa,

**[04:42:34.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004169)  
it is in our firm position that the Department of Labor and Employment

**[04:42:39.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004170)  
should not ask this August Chamber for any budget

**[04:42:43.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004171)  
dahil pinakikita at pinatutunayan lang nito sa mga manggagawa

**[04:42:47.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004172)  
na ang DOLE ay manhid, inutil at bingi.

**[04:42:50.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004173)  
Sa pakiramdam ng mga manggagawa.

**[04:42:53.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004174)  
Intindihin nyo kung saan nang gagaling ang mga manggagawa.

**[04:42:56.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004175)  
Para sa inyo, maliit na halaga lang ang 60 pesos.

**[04:42:59.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004176)  
Pero sa bawat isang minimum wage earner na naririnig,

**[04:43:03.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004177)  
ang ating diskusyon ngayon, malaking bagay ang 3,000 pisong inagaw

**[04:43:08.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004178)  
at pinagkait sa mga minimum wage earner.

**[04:43:11.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004179)  
Yun po ang pinatutungkulan ng representasyong ito.

**[04:43:15.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004180)  
And at the appropriate time,

**[04:43:16.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004181)  
if the Department of Labor and Employment,

**[04:43:20.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004182)  
will not change its position

**[04:43:22.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004183)  
at mananatili siya na matigas sa kanyang paninindigan

**[04:43:28.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004184)  
na maglalabas ng bagong wage order sa halip na tindigan

**[04:43:32.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004185)  
ang lumang wage order,

**[04:43:34.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004186)  
this representation will make that motion

**[04:43:37.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004187)  
at the appropriate time

**[04:43:38.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004188)  
na ilagak na lang natin ang pondo ng Department of Labor and Employment

**[04:43:43.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004189)  
excluding TESDA.

**[04:43:47.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004190)  
Ilagak na lang yan sa ibang mga functions

**[04:43:50.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004191)  
ng ating gobyerno.

**[04:43:52.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004192)  
Hindi po napatunayan ng Department of Labor and Employment

**[04:43:55.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004193)  
na kaya niyang tindigan ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa.

**[04:43:58.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004194)  
Mr. Sponsor, maraming salamat po sa inyong pagbigyan.

**[04:44:02.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004195)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:44:03.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004196)  
pwede mo ba akong pagbigyan na sagutin yung huling statement mo?

**[04:44:06.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004197)  
For the record, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:44:09.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004198)  
alam po ninyo, kanina binanggit ko po

**[04:44:12.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004199)  
na ang posisyon ng Departamento o DOLE

**[04:44:16.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004200)  
ay we impose na tinitindigan po namin

**[04:44:20.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004201)  
ang wage order 27.

**[04:44:22.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004202)  
Klaro po yun. It's on record na binanggit na po natin.

**[04:44:25.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004203)  
And kahit tanongin mo po lahat dito,

**[04:44:27.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004204)  
yung po ay on record.

**[04:44:29.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004205)  
Kaya't hindi po namin pipwedeng tanggapin

**[04:44:31.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004206)  
with all due respect to my friend, Congressman Eli,

**[04:44:36.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004207)  
sapagkat sabi ko nga rin kanina,

**[04:44:38.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004208)  
kung kami talaga ay walang malasakit sa ating mga manggagawa,

**[04:44:43.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004209)  
alisana kami po ay hindi na po kumilos.

**[04:44:45.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004210)  
Subalit,

**[04:44:46.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004211)  
sabi ko nga kanina sa pangungunan ng ating bagong sekretary,

**[04:44:49.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004212)  
we respect the legal proceedings.

**[04:44:52.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004213)  
Yan, alam mo yan.

**[04:44:54.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004214)  
Alam mo yan.

**[04:44:56.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004215)  
Nakumbakit.

**[04:44:57.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004216)  
Pero pinaninindigan po namin

**[04:45:00.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004217)  
na ang Wage Order 27, we cannot prejudge kung ano sasabihin ng ating hudikotura.

**[04:45:06.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004218)  
Nire-respeto namin yan.

**[04:45:07.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004219)  
Pero ang sabi namin nga noon ng Dolly at Office ng OSG,

**[04:45:11.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004220)  
ay dapat ito ay implemented ng July 2025 o 2026,

**[04:45:15.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004221)  
na dapat hindi nakikialam ang Korte.

**[04:45:18.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004222)  
At yan naman po, alam mo rin po yan,

**[04:45:20.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004223)  
na klaro sa Article 126 ng Labor Code na yun ang ating sinasabi.

**[04:45:25.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004224)  
Kaya sabi ko nga, Madam Speaker, for clarification,

**[04:45:27.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004225)  
sa lahat na nakikinig ng ating mga gawa na 1.1 million sa NCR.

**[04:45:32.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004226)  
Una, yung 60 pesos po ng Wage 27 at 28 ay identical.

**[04:45:40.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004227)  
Pag sinabi mong nabawasan, hindi po.

**[04:45:42.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004228)  
I would like to quote you, my friend, Ellie, simple math.

**[04:45:47.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004229)  
60 minus 60 is the same value.

**[04:45:52.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004230)  
Ngayon kung tatanungin mo, kanina,

**[04:45:54.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004231)  
na kung magre-release na naman ng Wage,

**[04:45:57.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004232)  
ang Wage Order para ito ay sa susunod na mga hakbang.

**[04:46:00.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004233)  
And I know na alam mo po yan,

**[04:46:02.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004234)  
para klaro po sa ating nakikinig,

**[04:46:04.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004235)  
kasi marami po yan at malaki po yan.

**[04:46:07.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004236)  
Yung 60 pesos na po yun, pag minultiply mo sa 26 days,

**[04:46:10.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004237)  
that's 1,560.

**[04:46:13.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004238)  
Yes, inaamin ng Dolly at ng Wage Board

**[04:46:15.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004239)  
na hindi lahat ng problema ay masusulusyonan doon sa 1,560.

**[04:46:21.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004240)  
Pero malaking bagay ito.

**[04:46:23.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004241)  
At ito po, uulitin ko po, for the record,

**[04:46:25.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004242)  
ay tinitindigan.

**[04:46:27.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004243)  
Nang Departamento kasama ang OSG.

**[04:46:31.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004244)  
Sabi ko nga po, once that document from the Judiciary,

**[04:46:37.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004245)  
binanggit na lang ating mahal na Secretary Francis Torrentino,

**[04:46:41.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004246)  
ipapatupad po natin ang mga Wage Orders

**[04:46:43.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004247)  
na ating pinanilindigan para sa ating mga manggagawa

**[04:46:47.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004248)  
sa NCR o sa buong Pilipinas sa mga darating na panahon.

**[04:46:51.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004249)  
Sana ay kahit pa paano,

**[04:46:52.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004250)  
nasagot namin yung itanong Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:46:57.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-004251)  
Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[04:46:59.280] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-004252)  
Thank you very much, Congressman Eli San Fernando.

**[04:47:03.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-004253)  
Majority Leader?

**[04:47:05.380] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-004254)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[04:47:07.260] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-004255)  
the Honorable Antonio Tinio of the ACT Teachers Party-list

**[04:47:10.520] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-004256)  
to interpolate on the proposed budget.

**[04:47:13.300] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-004257)  
The Honorable Tinio is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[04:47:17.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004258)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker,

**[04:47:20.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004259)  
sa Distinguished Sponsor at sa Department of Labor and Employment.

**[04:47:24.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004260)  
Ilang mga katanungan po.

**[04:47:26.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004261)  
Well, of course,

**[04:47:27.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004262)  
una, dahil ahensya po ito ng Department of Labor and Employment,

**[04:47:31.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004263)  
of course, ang tanong natin ay kaugnay sa sahod.

**[04:47:37.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004264)  
At dapat meron po tayong graphic dyan.

**[04:47:44.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004265)  
So, ayan, of course.

**[04:47:46.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004266)  
Of course, usapin ng minimum wage.

**[04:47:48.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004267)  
At alam natin, ang umiiral na patakaran at batas at patakaran ngayon,

**[04:47:52.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004268)  
regional, ang setting ng minimum wage.

**[04:47:55.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004269)  
So, dito, sinasummarize, galing sa IBO nito,

**[04:48:00.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004270)  
sinasummarize yung mga regional wage levels per region.

**[04:48:08.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004271)  
Of course, ang pinakamataas dyan ay sa NCR.

**[04:48:18.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004272)  
Actually, hindi nga updated yan.

**[04:48:20.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004273)  
That particular graphic,

**[04:48:23.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004274)  
ang mga rates ngayon,

**[04:48:25.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004275)  
alam naman natin, for NCR,

**[04:48:28.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004276)  
it's already 755.

**[04:48:31.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004277)  
No?

**[04:48:37.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004278)  
Pinakamataas ang sa NCR

**[04:48:39.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004279)  
at dito lumalabas na pinakabababa ang sa BARM.

**[04:48:48.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004280)  
Sa BARM po, 436 pesos ang minimum wage.

**[04:48:54.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004281)  
At,

**[04:48:54.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004282)  
kung,

**[04:48:55.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004283)  
kung i-a-average,

**[04:48:57.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004284)  
so, may range

**[04:48:58.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004285)  
from 755 to 436,

**[04:49:04.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004286)  
average 514.

**[04:49:06.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004287)  
Pero sa totoo lang, yung 514,

**[04:49:08.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004288)  
mathematical, ano lang yan, no?

**[04:49:11.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004289)  
Artifact, dahil wala namang region na ganyan ang minimum wage.

**[04:49:15.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004290)  
Pero just to give you an idea,

**[04:49:16.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004291)  
nung range ng minimum wage sa

**[04:49:20.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004292)  
iba't-ibang lugar sa Pilipinas,

**[04:49:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004293)  
dahil nga regionalized.

**[04:49:26.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004294)  
Okay.

**[04:49:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004295)  
Pero,

**[04:49:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004296)  
sa totoo lang, hindi ganyang kasimple

**[04:49:31.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004297)  
ang totoong lagay

**[04:49:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004298)  
ng sahod sa buong bansa.

**[04:49:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004299)  
Alam din yan ang mga kasamahan natin sa DOLE dahil

**[04:49:41.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004300)  
kung titignan natin ang bawat regyon,

**[04:49:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004301)  
iba-iba ang umiiral na patakaran at

**[04:49:50.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004302)  
ang task ng pagpapasweldo sa mga regyon.

**[04:49:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004303)  
So, for example, actually,

**[04:49:58.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004304)  
iba-iba pala.

**[04:50:01.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004305)  
Actually, mas ngayon ko lang talaga na naintindihan.

**[04:50:07.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004306)  
Yung malawak na pagkakaiba ng mga sweldo,

**[04:50:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004307)  
hindi lang sa pagitan ng iba't-ibang regyon,

**[04:50:15.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004308)  
kung hindi sa loob mismo ng isang regyon,

**[04:50:17.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004309)  
pwedeng nagkakaiba-iba po ito.

**[04:50:20.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004310)  
For example, ayan, sa ating sponsor.

**[04:50:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004311)  
Sa Region 3 pala, hindi pala totoo na meron lang isang

**[04:50:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004312)  
regional minimum wage rate dahil regionalized ang wage setting.

**[04:50:32.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004313)  
Hindi pala totoo yun.

**[04:50:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004314)  
Dahil, for example, sa Central Luzon,

**[04:50:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004315)  
eh ang patakaran dyan ay

**[04:50:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004316)  
sa Region 3,

**[04:50:48.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004317)  
meron pong sweldo,

**[04:50:50.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004318)  
para sa buong regyon.

**[04:50:55.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004319)  
Tapos, merong particular na sweldo

**[04:50:59.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004320)  
para sa probinsya lang ng Aurora.

**[04:51:02.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004321)  
Tama po ba yun?

**[04:51:04.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004322)  
So, sa Region 3 po,

**[04:51:08.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004323)  
600 pesos ang rate,

**[04:51:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004324)  
pero pagdating sa Aurora,

**[04:51:14.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004325)  
ay lumalabas na,

**[04:51:18.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004326)  
baka ano ba ito?

**[04:51:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004327)  
Is it 515?

**[04:51:29.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004328)  
Let me check.

**[04:51:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004329)  
Nakakalito na rin po eh.

**[04:51:31.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004330)  
O kasi iba-ibang nga.

**[04:51:34.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004331)  
Can I answer that shortly?

**[04:51:36.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004332)  
Yes.

**[04:51:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004333)  
No, actually in Aurora province,

**[04:51:39.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004334)  
it's 560.

**[04:51:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004335)  
For agricultural,

**[04:51:46.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004336)  
for non-agricultural,

**[04:51:47.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004337)  
and 545 for agricultural.

**[04:51:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004338)  
515 naman for retail and services.

**[04:51:59.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004339)  
Samantala,

**[04:52:01.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004340)  
for the rest of the region,

**[04:52:03.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004341)  
it's 600 pesos

**[04:52:06.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004342)  
for non-agriculture,

**[04:52:08.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004343)  
570 for retail service,

**[04:52:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004344)  
and,

**[04:52:15.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004345)  
sorry, 590 pala

**[04:52:17.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004346)  
for retail slash service,

**[04:52:19.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004347)  
and 560 for non-agriculture.

**[04:52:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004348)  
Ganun po.

**[04:52:25.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004349)  
Tama po ba?

**[04:52:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004350)  
So, yung buong regyon,

**[04:52:29.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004351)  
Region 3,

**[04:52:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004352)  
lahat ng mga probinsya,

**[04:52:31.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004353)  
may isang rate,

**[04:52:32.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004354)  
pero nagkakaiba-iba

**[04:52:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004355)  
depende sa tawagin nating sektor.

**[04:52:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004356)  
No?

**[04:52:38.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004357)  
Agricultural, non-agricultural, retail service.

**[04:52:41.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004358)  
Okay?

**[04:52:42.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004359)  
Except for the province of Aurora.

**[04:52:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004360)  
Tama po.

**[04:52:45.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004361)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:52:46.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004362)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:52:47.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004363)  
tama po.

**[04:52:48.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004364)  
And,

**[04:52:49.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004365)  
can I just propound on that situation?

**[04:52:51.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004366)  
Opo.

**[04:52:52.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004367)  
Me being the representative

**[04:52:54.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004368)  
of the Loan District of Aurora,

**[04:52:55.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004369)  
that was my previous question

**[04:52:57.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004370)  
to Dole,

**[04:52:58.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004371)  
per se.

**[04:52:59.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004372)  
Well, the fact of the matter is,

**[04:53:01.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004373)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:53:02.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004374)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[04:53:03.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004375)  
ang history po kasi

**[04:53:05.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004376)  
ng lalawigan ng Aurora,

**[04:53:06.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004377)  
tatalun-talun kami ng regyon.

**[04:53:08.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004378)  
And,

**[04:53:09.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004379)  
unfortunately,

**[04:53:10.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004380)  
as of this time,

**[04:53:11.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004381)  
I don't know

**[04:53:12.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004382)  
if it's true or not,

**[04:53:13.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004383)  
as of this time as we speak,

**[04:53:15.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004384)  
hindi pa ganun karami yung enterprises

**[04:53:17.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004385)  
that compromises

**[04:53:19.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004386)  
sa buong lalawigan ng Aurora.

**[04:53:21.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004387)  
But, it doesn't stop there.

**[04:53:22.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004388)  
Ibig sabihin,

**[04:53:23.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004389)  
we're making the necessary steps,

**[04:53:24.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004390)  
o ginagawa natin,

**[04:53:26.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004391)  
para maging aktibo

**[04:53:27.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004392)  
yung productivity

**[04:53:28.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004393)  
at the same time

**[04:53:29.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004394)  
yung ekonomiya ay lumago.

**[04:53:30.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004395)  
That is my first basic question

**[04:53:32.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004396)  
also

**[04:53:33.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004397)  
to the Department,

**[04:53:34.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004398)  
kasi nga po,

**[04:53:35.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004399)  
kailangan balansahin ng Dole

**[04:53:37.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004400)  
kung ano yung kinakailangan minimum wage

**[04:53:39.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004401)  
sa bawat

**[04:53:40.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004402)  
probinsya,

**[04:53:41.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004403)  
sa bawat regyon.

**[04:53:42.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004404)  
And, in this case,

**[04:53:43.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004405)  
sa buong Region 3,

**[04:53:44.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004406)  
tama ka po,

**[04:53:45.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004407)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:53:46.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004408)  
distinguished colleague,

**[04:53:47.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004409)  
na medyo mas mababa ng kaunti

**[04:53:49.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004410)  
sa aming lalawigan ng Aurora.

**[04:53:51.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004411)  
Again, I would like to state

**[04:53:52.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004412)  
the reason,

**[04:53:53.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004413)  
one,

**[04:53:54.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004414)  
is because of the masyadong

**[04:53:55.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004415)  
kaunti pa po yung enterprises

**[04:53:56.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004416)  
sa amin.

**[04:53:57.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004417)  
Secondly,

**[04:53:58.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004418)  
minsan yung mga aming mga

**[04:54:01.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004419)  
industries

**[04:54:02.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004420)  
that are in there,

**[04:54:03.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004421)  
like for example,

**[04:54:04.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004422)  
is tourism,

**[04:54:05.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004423)  
ay medyo seasonal pa po

**[04:54:06.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004424)  
yung aming pasok

**[04:54:07.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004425)  
ng aming mga negosyo

**[04:54:08.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004426)  
pertaining to the whole province

**[04:54:09.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004427)  
of Aurora.

**[04:54:10.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004428)  
I hope that answers

**[04:54:11.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004429)  
the question,

**[04:54:12.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004430)  
Madam Speaker,

**[04:54:13.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004431)  
distinguished colleague.

**[04:54:14.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004432)  
Okay.

**[04:54:15.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004433)  
So,

**[04:54:16.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004434)  
in other words,

**[04:54:17.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004435)  
ang natuklasan ko po

**[04:54:18.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004436)  
nang sinurvey natin

**[04:54:19.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004437)  
yung mga

**[04:54:20.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004438)  
regional minimum wage rate,

**[04:54:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004439)  
hindi pala pare-pare,

**[04:54:23.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004440)  
hindi lang iisa

**[04:54:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004441)  
sa isang region nga.

**[04:54:25.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004442)  
Of course,

**[04:54:26.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004443)  
alam na natin yung

**[04:54:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004444)  
agricultural versus

**[04:54:29.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004445)  
non-agricultural.

**[04:54:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004446)  
O kaya,

**[04:54:31.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004447)  
sa ibang region

**[04:54:32.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004448)  
or sa maraming region,

**[04:54:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004449)  
kasama rin yung

**[04:54:35.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004450)  
number of employees.

**[04:54:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004451)  
Pagka 10 and below,

**[04:54:38.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004452)  
may ibang rate.

**[04:54:39.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004453)  
So,

**[04:54:40.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004454)  
may ibang rate

**[04:54:41.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004455)  
above 10,

**[04:54:42.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004456)  
mas malaki.

**[04:54:43.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004457)  
Okay.

**[04:54:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004458)  
Mas mataas.

**[04:54:46.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004459)  
Isa pang example po

**[04:54:47.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004460)  
bukod sa region 3

**[04:54:48.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004461)  
ay yung region 7.

**[04:54:51.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004462)  
Sa region 7 naman po,

**[04:54:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004463)  
again,

**[04:54:54.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004464)  
hindi iisa ang pasweldo.

**[04:54:56.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004465)  
Lumikha ang region na ito

**[04:54:59.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004466)  
ng dalawang classification.

**[04:55:03.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004467)  
Meron daw class A

**[04:55:04.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004468)  
ng mga bayan

**[04:55:05.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004469)  
at merong class B.

**[04:55:07.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004470)  
Pag class A,

**[04:55:08.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004471)  
mas mataas.

**[04:55:09.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004472)  
Pag class B,

**[04:55:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004473)  
mas mababa.

**[04:55:11.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004474)  
Class A,

**[04:55:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004475)  
yan yung

**[04:55:13.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004476)  
mga bayan

**[04:55:14.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004477)  
ng

**[04:55:15.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004478)  
cities of

**[04:55:16.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004479)  
Carcar,

**[04:55:17.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004480)  
Cebu,

**[04:55:18.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004481)  
Danao,

**[04:55:19.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004482)  
Lapu-Lapu,

**[04:55:20.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004483)  
Mandaue,

**[04:55:21.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004484)  
Naga,

**[04:55:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004485)  
and Talisay.

**[04:55:23.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004486)  
As well as

**[04:55:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004487)  
the municipalities

**[04:55:25.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004488)  
of Compostela,

**[04:55:26.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004489)  
Consolacion,

**[04:55:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004490)  
Cordoba,

**[04:55:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004491)  
Liloan,

**[04:55:29.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004492)  
Minglanilla,

**[04:55:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004493)  
and San Fernando.

**[04:55:33.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004494)  
Together with

**[04:55:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004495)  
expanded Metro Cebu.

**[04:55:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004496)  
So,

**[04:55:38.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004497)  
pagkasama ka dyan

**[04:55:39.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004498)  
540 a day

**[04:55:41.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004499)  
ang minimum wage.

**[04:55:43.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004500)  
Pero,

**[04:55:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004501)  
pagka class B ka,

**[04:55:46.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004502)  
meaning hindi ka kasama

**[04:55:47.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004503)  
dun sa nabanggit nating listahan,

**[04:55:49.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004504)  
500 pesos lang po

**[04:55:51.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004505)  
ang

**[04:55:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004506)  
daily minimum wage.

**[04:55:56.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004507)  
Okay.

**[04:55:57.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004508)  
So, yun pa.

**[04:55:58.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004509)  
Meron pang isa dyan,

**[04:55:59.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004510)  
yung region na

**[04:56:01.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004511)  
sa Mindanao naman,

**[04:56:02.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004512)  
that's

**[04:56:04.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004513)  
um,

**[04:56:07.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004514)  
um,

**[04:56:09.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004515)  
is it region,

**[04:56:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004516)  
asan to?

**[04:56:17.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004517)  
Uh,

**[04:56:18.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004518)  
region,

**[04:56:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004519)  
well,

**[04:56:25.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004520)  
region,

**[04:56:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004521)  
meron po sa Mindanao eh,

**[04:56:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004522)  
hindi ko lang po makita ngayon,

**[04:56:29.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004523)  
pasensya na.

**[04:56:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004524)  
Okay.

**[04:56:31.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004525)  
So, that's

**[04:56:32.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004526)  
uh,

**[04:56:33.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004527)  
region 3.

**[04:56:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004528)  
Uh,

**[04:56:35.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004529)  
and then,

**[04:56:36.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004530)  
uh,

**[04:56:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004531)  
region 7.

**[04:56:38.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004532)  
Let me go to the,

**[04:56:39.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004533)  
uh,

**[04:56:40.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004534)  
most,

**[04:56:41.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004535)  
uh,

**[04:56:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004536)  
pwede nating sabihin,

**[04:56:45.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004537)  
most,

**[04:56:46.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004538)  
uh,

**[04:56:47.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004539)  
complex and most notorious

**[04:56:48.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004540)  
case.

**[04:56:49.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004541)  
Dito,

**[04:56:50.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004542)  
Calabarzon.

**[04:56:51.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004543)  
So, sa Calabarzon po,

**[04:56:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004544)  
ay

**[04:56:54.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004545)  
ibat-ibang level po.

**[04:56:55.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004546)  
Actually,

**[04:56:56.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004547)  
ang ginamit nila,

**[04:56:57.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004548)  
uh,

**[04:56:58.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004549)  
hindi, hindi lang regional

**[04:56:59.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004550)  
ang, ang

**[04:57:00.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004551)  
wage levels.

**[04:57:02.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004552)  
Hindi rin provincial.

**[04:57:04.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004553)  
No?

**[04:57:05.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004554)  
May mga,

**[04:57:06.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004555)  
ah,

**[04:57:07.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004556)  
ah,

**[04:57:08.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004557)  
organization na manggagawa,

**[04:57:09.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004558)  
sabihin na,

**[04:57:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004559)  
abolish the provincial rate.

**[04:57:11.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004560)  
Sa totoo lang,

**[04:57:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004561)  
wala naman po talagang

**[04:57:13.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004562)  
provincial rate,

**[04:57:14.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004563)  
except maybe for the

**[04:57:15.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004564)  
province of Aurora.

**[04:57:16.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004565)  
Okay.

**[04:57:17.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004566)  
Ang meron,

**[04:57:18.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004567)  
particular sa Calabarzon,

**[04:57:20.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004568)  
city and municipal rate.

**[04:57:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004569)  
At hindi lang yun,

**[04:57:23.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004570)  
city,

**[04:57:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004571)  
municipal,

**[04:57:25.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004572)  
pati ecozone.

**[04:57:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004573)  
Ecozone,

**[04:57:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004574)  
may sariling

**[04:57:29.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004575)  
minimum wage rate.

**[04:57:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004576)  
Ganun po,

**[04:57:31.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004577)  
ah,

**[04:57:32.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004578)  
ah,

**[04:57:33.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004579)  
granular,

**[04:57:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004580)  
granular,

**[04:57:36.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004581)  
yung pag-set

**[04:57:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004582)  
ng regional,

**[04:57:38.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004583)  
ng minimum wage,

**[04:57:40.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004584)  
ng regional wage board.

**[04:57:42.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004585)  
So, sa kaso po

**[04:57:43.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004586)  
ng Aurora,

**[04:57:48.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004587)  
bukod dun sa mga

**[04:57:49.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004588)  
sektor,

**[04:57:50.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004589)  
agricultural,

**[04:57:51.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004590)  
non-agricultural,

**[04:57:52.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004591)  
retail,

**[04:57:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004592)  
ah,

**[04:57:54.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004593)  
kasama rin yung

**[04:57:56.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004594)  
employer size,

**[04:57:58.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004595)  
ayan na nga, no?

**[04:57:59.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004596)  
Kung whether 10 and above,

**[04:58:00.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004597)  
10 and below,

**[04:58:02.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004598)  
ay meron pa pong,

**[04:58:03.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004599)  
ah,

**[04:58:07.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004600)  
extended metropolitan area.

**[04:58:11.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004601)  
Okay.

**[04:58:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004602)  
So,

**[04:58:15.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004603)  
area class.

**[04:58:16.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004604)  
There are six area classes.

**[04:58:18.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004605)  
So, this is the extended metropolitan area.

**[04:58:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004606)  
So, ito yung mga malalaking siyudad.

**[04:58:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004607)  
Tapos, component cities.

**[04:58:27.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004608)  
Yan, meron,

**[04:58:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004609)  
another tier yan.

**[04:58:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004610)  
Okay.

**[04:58:31.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004611)  
And then, there's,

**[04:58:32.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004612)  
tier all,

**[04:58:33.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004613)  
all of its own,

**[04:58:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004614)  
which is Rosario,

**[04:58:36.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004615)  
in Cavite.

**[04:58:38.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004616)  
Nag-iisa siya,

**[04:58:39.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004617)  
na merong sariling rate.

**[04:58:41.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004618)  
Tapos, yung first class municipalities,

**[04:58:43.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004619)  
may sarili.

**[04:58:45.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004620)  
Meron pa tinatawag na

**[04:58:46.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004621)  
reclassified first class

**[04:58:48.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004622)  
municipalities

**[04:58:50.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004623)  
per DOF department order number

**[04:58:52.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004624)  
zero four,

**[04:58:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004625)  
zero seven four dash twenty twenty four

**[04:58:56.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004626)  
number twenty four.

**[04:58:58.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004627)  
Very specific.

**[04:59:00.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004628)  
Tapos, meron pang second,

**[04:59:02.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004629)  
to fifth class municipalities.

**[04:59:05.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004630)  
Iba-iba po yan.

**[04:59:07.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004631)  
So, let us give

**[04:59:08.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004632)  
a more concrete

**[04:59:09.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004633)  
example of this.

**[04:59:11.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004634)  
No?

**[04:59:13.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004635)  
For example po,

**[04:59:15.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004636)  
sa probinsya ng,

**[04:59:18.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004637)  
let's say,

**[04:59:19.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004638)  
Laguna.

**[04:59:21.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004639)  
Okay.

**[04:59:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004640)  
Sa Laguna po,

**[04:59:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004641)  
ang mga pinaka,

**[04:59:25.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004642)  
malaking mataas na sweldo,

**[04:59:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004643)  
ay,

**[04:59:29.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004644)  
ah,

**[04:59:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004645)  
yung extended metropolitan area.

**[04:59:32.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004646)  
That would cover

**[04:59:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004647)  
the

**[04:59:35.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004648)  
cities of

**[04:59:36.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004649)  
Binyan

**[04:59:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004650)  
and San Pedro

**[04:59:39.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004651)  
plus

**[04:59:40.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004652)  
the Laguna Technopark.

**[04:59:42.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004653)  
600 pesos.

**[04:59:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004654)  
Component cities,

**[04:59:46.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004655)  
600 pesos din.

**[04:59:47.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004656)  
Yan ang mga bayan ng

**[04:59:48.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004657)  
Cabuyao,

**[04:59:49.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004658)  
Calamba,

**[04:59:50.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004659)  
Santa Rosa,

**[04:59:51.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004660)  
San Pablo.

**[04:59:52.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004661)  
Ah,

**[04:59:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004662)  
so, yun po,

**[04:59:54.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004663)  
600 pesos sila.

**[04:59:55.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004664)  
Pag napunta ka naman sa

**[04:59:56.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004665)  
first class municipalities,

**[04:59:58.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004666)  
550 pesos.

**[05:00:01.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004667)  
So kasama po dyan Los

**[05:00:04.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004668)  
Baños at Santa Cruz, Laguna.

**[05:00:07.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004669)  
Kalevel nito yung mga reclassified

**[05:00:10.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004670)  
first class municipalities, Alaminos,

**[05:00:12.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004671)  
Bayi, Calawan, Nagkarlan, Pila,

**[05:00:16.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004672)  
Siniloan. Tapos at 525 pesos second to

**[05:00:23.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004673)  
fifth class municipalities. Ito yung

**[05:00:25.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004674)  
pinakamababa, Kabinti, Fami, Kalayaan,

**[05:00:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004675)  
Lili, Louisiana, Lumban, Mabitak,

**[05:00:30.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004676)  
Magdalena, Mahayhay, Paite, Pagsanhan,

**[05:00:33.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004677)  
Pakil, Pangil, Rizal, Santa Maria,

**[05:00:36.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004678)  
Victoria. Okay.

**[05:00:41.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004679)  
Pabasahin ko pa po, isa pa po. Just to

**[05:00:43.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004680)  
illustrate, no? And to make a point.

**[05:00:47.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004681)  
Yung sa Rizal. Sa Rizal po, pinakamataas,

**[05:00:50.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004682)  
600 pesos din, extended metropolitan area,

**[05:00:56.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004683)  
mga bayan ng kainta, antipol,

**[05:00:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004684)  
Palo, Taytay. Tapos, first class

**[05:01:01.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004685)  
municipalities and reclassified first

**[05:01:04.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004686)  
class municipalities, 550. So, 50 peso

**[05:01:07.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004687)  
difference. Ang ono, Binangonan, Pililya,

**[05:01:12.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004688)  
Rodriguez, San Mateo, Tanay. Tapos,

**[05:01:16.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004689)  
Baras, Morong, at Teresa. Okay.

**[05:01:20.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004690)  
Samantala, second to fifth class

**[05:01:22.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004691)  
municipalities, Cardona at Halahala. Okay.

**[05:01:27.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004692)  
Okay. No?

**[05:01:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004693)  
So, ano ang punto po rito? Meron pang

**[05:01:30.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004694)  
extreme example. Sabi nga natin, sa Calabarzon,

**[05:01:39.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004695)  
ang wage level setting, hindi lang po regional

**[05:01:43.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004696)  
level, hindi city or municipality level lang,

**[05:01:47.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004697)  
pati eco zone level. Meron. No? Kaya sa

**[05:01:51.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004698)  
kaso po ng bayan ng Malbar sa Batangas,

**[05:01:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004699)  
merong rate na 600 para sa eco zone sa Malbar.

**[05:02:04.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004700)  
Parang lima. Yun ang pangalan. Okay?

**[05:02:08.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004701)  
Lima ba? Okay. Tapos, pag lumabas ka sa gate,

**[05:02:14.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004702)  
nasa bayan ka, nasa labas ka na ng eco zone,

**[05:02:17.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004703)  
yung bayan mismo ng Malbar, 550 lang po ang kanilang rate.

**[05:02:23.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004704)  
So, may 50 peso difference. No? Lumabas ka lang sa gate.

**[05:02:27.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004705)  
Nung eco zone. Okay? No? Kasi yung nabanggit ko kanina sa

**[05:02:32.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004706)  
Rizal. I go back to Rizal kasi ito pamilyar ako. Madalas ako

**[05:02:35.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004707)  
dumadaan sa mga bayan na yan eh. No? Along the Manila East

**[05:02:39.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004708)  
Road. Mula Antipolo hanggang Teresa, Morong, Tanay,

**[05:02:49.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004709)  
Baras, Pililya. Okay. Magkakatabi lang po yung bayan na

**[05:02:53.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004710)  
yan. No? Tapos yung Cardona, sa Bandaron,

**[05:02:57.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004711)  
Okay? Magkakatabi lang yung bayan na yan. Pero, dahil sa

**[05:03:02.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004712)  
classification na ito, sa Antipolo, 600. Sa Morong o Teresa,

**[05:03:11.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004713)  
550. Pero sa Cardona, yung pinakamababa. 500, ka na ba

**[05:03:18.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004714)  
yun? 525. Okay? So, magkakatabi lang po yan. Sa ibang

**[05:03:25.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004715)  
kaso, pwede mo lang lakarin.

**[05:03:27.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004716)  
Ay nasa kabilang bayan ka na. No? So, ano po ang

**[05:03:32.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004717)  
justification? Sa ganitong tipo ng wage setting. Samantala, ang

**[05:03:39.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004718)  
presyo ng bigas, ang presyo ng gasolina, ang pamasahe, ang

**[05:03:45.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004719)  
presyo ng kuryente, ang presyo ng edukasyon, pagpapaaral sa

**[05:03:52.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004720)  
iyong mga anak, di naman nagbabago yan. Mula sa bayan,

**[05:03:57.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004721)  
ang Cardona, at sa katabi nitong bayan ng Morong, hindi po

**[05:04:03.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004722)  
nagbabago. Pero magkaiba po, ang minimum wage rate. Anong

**[05:04:07.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004723)  
kahibangan na umabot na sa ganito ang pag set ng minimum wage

**[05:04:13.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004724)  
lalong lano na extreme version sa kalabarson? Samantala, may

**[05:04:18.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004725)  
mga example po, ng regions, na isa lang talagang rate. In fact,

**[05:04:24.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004726)  
In fact, for example, CAR.

**[05:04:27.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004727)  
Sa CAR po, Cordillera Administrative Region,

**[05:04:31.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004728)  
tinanggal nila kahit na yung distinction between agricultural and non-agricultural.

**[05:04:35.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004729)  
Iisa na lang po ang rate niyan.

**[05:04:38.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004730)  
So, there are several regions na ganun.

**[05:04:45.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004731)  
CAR, Region 2, Region 4B, Region 4, Region 5, and Region 13.

**[05:04:54.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004732)  
So, isa lang po ang rate.

**[05:04:59.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004733)  
So, yan po ang nais nating i-highlight dito.

**[05:05:06.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004734)  
Bakit ganyan ang wage setting at hindi ba pinapakita na nito

**[05:05:11.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004735)  
na wala talagang loyka at walang saisay.

**[05:05:16.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004736)  
At pinakapahirap sa manggagawa, sa mamamayang Pilipino,

**[05:05:22.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004737)  
na depende kung nasan ka,

**[05:05:24.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004738)  
ay mas pababa ang sweldo kahit pareho naman.

**[05:05:29.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004739)  
Walang measurable and objective na kaibahan sa cost of living.

**[05:05:36.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004740)  
Yan po ang problema.

**[05:05:39.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004741)  
Hindi po ba ganun?

**[05:05:40.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004742)  
At hindi ba panahon na para ma-abolish ang sistema nito ng regional wage setting?

**[05:05:50.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004743)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, I get your point.

**[05:05:54.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004744)  
Distinguished colleague, na pag talon mo sa isang lugar na isang bayan ay iba na yung rate.

**[05:06:02.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004745)  
And you gave perfect examples of those in which.

**[05:06:06.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004746)  
But the thing is, the mandate which was given by Congress sa Department of Labor and Employment,

**[05:06:13.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004747)  
ay kami naman po ay sumusunod sa alituntunin sa pag-set ng minimum wage.

**[05:06:17.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004748)  
One, yung binigit niyo po kanina ay patungo dun sa we have to also take in consideration

**[05:06:22.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004749)  
sa dun sa ating income classes.

**[05:06:24.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004750)  
ng Department of Finance.

**[05:06:26.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004751)  
And the most important one is yung productivity.

**[05:06:30.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004752)  
Iba-iba po kasi yung kada bayan, kada reyon, kada probinsya.

**[05:06:35.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004753)  
And patukol naman po dun sa huling statement po ninyo,

**[05:06:40.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004754)  
na kung napapanahon na po ba pag-abolish dun sa mga different rates.

**[05:06:45.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004755)  
Again, the official stand of Department of Labor and Employment patungo dun sa ating minimum wage setting

**[05:06:51.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004756)  
or the reach.

**[05:06:54.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004757)  
RA 6727 or Wage Rationalization Act ay we submit to the wisdom ng ating Kongreso at Senado.

**[05:07:05.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004758)  
Once halimbawang nakapagpasa po ng isang bill or maging ganap na isang batas,

**[05:07:11.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004759)  
the Department will fully implement kung sakasakaling ito ay maging isang ganap na batas,

**[05:07:17.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004760)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:07:19.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004761)  
Well, thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[05:07:20.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004762)  
Ang dinidiin po natin talaga, yung patakalan na mismo,

**[05:07:24.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004763)  
ang pinapakita natin dito na yung pinapatupad na patakalan ng DOLE ng kanilang mga regional wage board

**[05:07:30.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004764)  
ay, siyempre, alinsunod sa batas, pero pinapakita dito na yung batas ay hindi na naglilingkod sa interes ng mga manggagawang Pilipino.

**[05:07:43.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004765)  
Maaring pabor sa mga kapitalista. Of course, matutuwa sila.

**[05:07:48.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004766)  
Lumipad lang sila ng bayan. Mas mababa na ang kanilang pasweldo.

**[05:07:52.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004767)  
Pero para sa mga mamayang nandun,

**[05:07:54.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004768)  
wala namang pinag-iba ang presyo ng bigas ng pagkain sa kabilang bayan.

**[05:08:00.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004769)  
So, again, dinidiin natin panahon na para i-abolish ito at ibalik yung national minimum wage.

**[05:08:08.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004770)  
Marami pa sana akong datos dyan, kaya lang, pinitingnan ko ang oras, pupunta na ako sa susunod na topic natin.

**[05:08:15.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004771)  
So, ang punto natin dito, kapos na kapos na po, at hindi na naglilingkod sa interes at kapakanan ng manggagawa,

**[05:08:22.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004772)  
ang patakarang pinatutupad na ito.

**[05:08:24.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004773)  
At ang dole, kaugnay sa regionalized, at hindi nga lang regionalized, no,

**[05:08:29.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004774)  
municipalized, localized wage setting. Extreme case being Calabarzon.

**[05:08:36.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004775)  
Okay. So, kailangang ibalik ang national minimum wage.

**[05:08:42.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004776)  
Okay. Ngayon, punta tayo sa usapin ng tupad.

**[05:08:47.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004777)  
Ayan, nabuksan ni, ng naunang interpellator natin, si Representative Eli San Fernando.

**[05:08:54.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004778)  
At hindi katakataka, dahil nga, kung titignan mo ang budget ng dole, ang pinakamalaking component talaga nito ay tupad.

**[05:09:04.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004779)  
So, pinring up ko na po ito nung budget briefing, but let me revisit the data in plenary.

**[05:09:15.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004780)  
So, kung pwede po, maipakita yung ating presentation.

**[05:09:20.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004781)  
So, ayan nga, tinrack nga natin.

**[05:09:22.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004782)  
Yung 10 years ng tupad, no, at 2016 yan.

**[05:09:27.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004783)  
Nung 2016, ang level po ng tupad ay nasa, nasa, tupad.

**[05:09:39.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004784)  
Three, hindi makita.

**[05:09:44.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004785)  
Okay. Is that three?

**[05:09:50.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004786)  
Okay. Is that three?

**[05:09:54.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004787)  
3.2 billion.

**[05:09:56.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004788)  
3.2 billion pesos po.

**[05:09:58.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004789)  
That was 2016.

**[05:10:00.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004790)  
And then, 2024, 3.2 billion naging 29.5 billion.

**[05:10:11.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004791)  
No? So, ilang beses na lumaki ito.

**[05:10:16.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004792)  
Uhm.

**[05:10:18.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004793)  
More than, almost 10 times, no, ang paglaki.

**[05:10:25.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004794)  
Yan yung pinakamalaking allocation ng tupad.

**[05:10:29.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004795)  
It consists, at that time, it consisted of almost 82% of the total dole budget.

**[05:10:36.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004796)  
For 2026, sa kasalukuyang taon, 75% ng budget ng dole, 22 billion pesos ay nasa tupad.

**[05:10:47.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004797)  
Sa proposed budget nyo, proposed budget nyo 2027, ayan po, 2027 ay, ah, magkano ang hinihingi?

**[05:11:01.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004798)  
14.2 billion o 68% of total.

**[05:11:06.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004799)  
Ayan po ang nasa NEP.

**[05:11:08.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004800)  
Pero natatandaan ko rin po sa budget briefing, and maybe it can be stated here on the record,

**[05:11:14.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004801)  
humihingi pa po ng dagdad na tupad.

**[05:11:16.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004802)  
Ang dole.

**[05:11:18.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004803)  
Pwede po bang ma, ah, banggit for the record kung magkano yung hinihingi ng dole na dagdag sa tupad?

**[05:11:28.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004804)  
Ah, on record, ah, Madam Speaker Distinguished Colleague, tama po yung sinabi nyo doon sa record na 14.1 billion.

**[05:11:36.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004805)  
But for clarity, yung out of that is 3 billion is, ah, GIP, which is the Government Internship Program.

**[05:11:43.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004806)  
Okay.

**[05:11:44.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004807)  
So kung sa inyong tinatanong na kung magkano yung, ah, hinihingi, I mentioned that earlier doon sa ating opening statement,

**[05:11:51.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004808)  
na kung saan doon sa nakaraang ah, budget ah, hearing sa committee level, I, I think it was 10.1 billion.

**[05:11:59.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004809)  
10.

**[05:12:01.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004810)  
10.25 billion.

**[05:12:02.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004811)  
10.4.

**[05:12:04.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004812)  
10.25.

**[05:12:05.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004813)  
Okay, so.

**[05:12:06.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004814)  
10.25.

**[05:12:07.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004815)  
So, 14 billion ang nasa NEP, pero gusto niyo po po dagdaga ng mahigit 10 billion.

**[05:12:13.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004816)  
So, gusto niyong gawing 24.8 billion, no?

**[05:12:18.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004817)  
In other words, halos doblehin yung kasulukuyang hinihingi ng pondo.

**[05:12:23.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004818)  
So, ah, yun na nga.

**[05:12:26.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004819)  
Ah, dinidiinan na natin dito at kinikwestiyon na natin, bakit ang pinakamalaking bahagi ng budget ng dole ay tupad?

**[05:12:37.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004820)  
No?

**[05:12:38.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004821)  
Ironically, ah.

**[05:12:41.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004822)  
Ah, yun nga sabi natin, ano na ba ang dole ngayon?

**[05:12:46.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004823)  
Ano ba ang pangunahing mandato ng dole?

**[05:12:48.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004824)  
Ah, labor and employment?

**[05:12:52.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004825)  
Pagprotekta sa karapatan at kagalingan ng manggagawa?

**[05:12:57.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004826)  
O ayuda agency na ba ang dole ngayon?

**[05:13:01.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004827)  
Kasi kung pagbabatayan natin ang budget, ayuda agency na.

**[05:13:05.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004828)  
No?

**[05:13:06.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004829)  
At,

**[05:13:07.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004830)  
ngayon pa,

**[05:13:09.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004831)  
hindi na nagkasya,

**[05:13:10.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004832)  
dun sa 14 billion na hinihingi para sa tupad, gusto pang dagdagan ng 10 billion.

**[05:13:18.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004833)  
No?

**[05:13:19.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004834)  
Ah, so,

**[05:13:22.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004835)  
paninindigan pa rin ba ng dole ang hinihingi pa nilang dagdag na 10 billion?

**[05:13:28.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004836)  
Samantala,

**[05:13:29.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004837)  
katulad yan ang nasabi, napakaraming mga pangangailangan.

**[05:13:33.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004838)  
Yung nabanggit na,

**[05:13:35.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004839)  
dagdag na labor inspectors, new plantilla positions,

**[05:13:39.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004840)  
for labor inspectors.

**[05:13:42.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004841)  
Bakit hindi?

**[05:13:43.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004842)  
Ilang bagong labor inspectors ang pwedeng madagdagan dun sa 10 billion na hinihingi ninyo?

**[05:13:52.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004843)  
Hindi po ba?

**[05:13:53.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004844)  
So, paninindigan pa po ba na dagdagan pa sa halip na bawasan ang hinihingi tupad ng dole for 2027?

**[05:14:06.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004845)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[05:14:09.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004846)  
one for the record,

**[05:14:11.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004847)  
pagsilabing po po kasing ayuda is dole out.

**[05:14:14.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004848)  
Ang tupad together with GIP and other the programs of dole.

**[05:14:19.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004849)  
Yung tupad naman po ay pinagtatrabahuhan.

**[05:14:22.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004850)  
And if you will allow me, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[05:14:27.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004851)  
nagkaroon lang kasi because of the pandemic, yung parang stigma doon sa ating tupad.

**[05:14:32.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004852)  
Pero I'll give you a prime example na isa lamang.

**[05:14:37.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004853)  
I'll give you an example.

**[05:14:39.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004854)  
In Caloocan, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[05:14:43.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004855)  
and this is very malapit sa akin to because gustong gusto ko rin gawin ito sa aking distrito.

**[05:14:50.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004856)  
Bakit?

**[05:14:51.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004857)  
Yung kanyang under ng tupad, alam naman po natin doon sa reports na na-receive natin sa EDCOM,

**[05:14:57.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004858)  
na maraming estudyante...

**[05:15:00.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004859)  
from kinder to grade 10

**[05:15:02.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004860)  
ang medyo nahuhuli

**[05:15:04.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004861)  
pagdating sa pagbasa

**[05:15:05.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004862)  
at ang ating resulta

**[05:15:08.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004863)  
ay nahihiyan na po silang pumasok

**[05:15:10.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004864)  
sa kanilang mga eskwelahan.

**[05:15:12.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004865)  
Ano po ang ginawa ng ating

**[05:15:13.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004866)  
Department of Labor Employment

**[05:15:17.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004867)  
doon sa Kaloocan?

**[05:15:19.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004868)  
Simpleng-simple lamang.

**[05:15:21.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004869)  
One,

**[05:15:22.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004870)  
nag-hire po ang departamento

**[05:15:24.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004871)  
ng mga college graduates

**[05:15:26.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004872)  
or let passers

**[05:15:28.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004873)  
na hindi pa ganap

**[05:15:29.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004874)  
na hired, na teachers

**[05:15:31.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004875)  
na magtuturo, na magbasa

**[05:15:34.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004876)  
sa ating mga kabataan.

**[05:15:37.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004877)  
They were employed

**[05:15:38.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004878)  
na ating isandaang

**[05:15:40.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004879)  
nagtuturo

**[05:15:42.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004880)  
sa ating mga estudyante

**[05:15:43.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004881)  
sa Kaloocan na kung saan

**[05:15:46.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004882)  
staggered po 10 days

**[05:15:48.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004883)  
kasi ang normal

**[05:15:50.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004884)  
and standard na

**[05:15:52.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004885)  
implementation ng tupad.

**[05:15:55.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004886)  
Doon sa programang ating binabanggit po

**[05:15:56.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004887)  
ito ay ginawang

**[05:15:58.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004888)  
30 days na allowable

**[05:15:59.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004889)  
lamang po sa mga ibang programa.

**[05:16:01.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004890)  
In short, Madam Speaker,

**[05:16:04.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004891)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[05:16:06.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004892)  
yung ginagawa po ng tupad

**[05:16:08.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004893)  
na stigma noon ay ibang-iba

**[05:16:09.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004894)  
noon at ngayon.

**[05:16:12.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004895)  
Kasi po, hindi lamang ito

**[05:16:13.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004896)  
magagamit sa ating mga

**[05:16:16.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004897)  
streets, but bagkos

**[05:16:17.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004898)  
ay matuturuan na matuto pa

**[05:16:20.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004899)  
yung ating mga estudyante

**[05:16:22.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004900)  
lalong-lalong na

**[05:16:23.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004901)  
sa ating growing years

**[05:16:25.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004902)  
ng mga ating bata.

**[05:16:26.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004903)  
And you can double check that,

**[05:16:29.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004904)  
Madam Speaker and

**[05:16:30.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004905)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[05:16:32.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004906)  
na sabi ko nga po,

**[05:16:34.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004907)  
sa mga darating pampanahon

**[05:16:35.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004908)  
magkakaroon through the leadership

**[05:16:37.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004909)  
of Secretary Francis Tolentino,

**[05:16:39.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004910)  
sabi ko nga po,

**[05:16:40.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004911)  
noon, last year,

**[05:16:42.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004912)  
ginawa ko rin po,

**[05:16:43.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004913)  
sabi ko nga,

**[05:16:44.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004914)  
yung paglinis o pagko-coordination

**[05:16:45.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004915)  
sa local government unit

**[05:16:47.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004916)  
patungo sa MRF.

**[05:16:48.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004917)  
Yan lang po ay isang

**[05:16:49.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004918)  
ehemplo.

**[05:16:54.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004919)  
Okay.

**[05:16:56.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004920)  
I'm sorry.

**[05:16:57.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004921)  
I was interrupted, Madam.

**[05:16:59.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004922)  
Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:17:00.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004923)  
Pero to wrap it up,

**[05:17:03.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004924)  
ang dahilan po

**[05:17:04.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004925)  
na pag

**[05:17:06.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004926)  
ask

**[05:17:08.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004927)  
ng karagdagang pondo

**[05:17:11.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004928)  
is not for

**[05:17:13.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004929)  
tupad, na basic

**[05:17:15.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004930)  
tupad only.

**[05:17:17.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004931)  
Sabi ko nga po,

**[05:17:19.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004932)  
ito ay pinalawak na po natin over time

**[05:17:21.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004933)  
na sa palagay ko, sa aking palagay,

**[05:17:24.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004934)  
ay hindi lamang makakatulong

**[05:17:25.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004935)  
doon sa ating ine-empleyo

**[05:17:27.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004936)  
na magkakaroon ng sweldo, income,

**[05:17:29.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004937)  
yung ating mga,

**[05:17:31.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004938)  
in that, ginawa ko pong example,

**[05:17:32.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004939)  
yung ating mga tutors,

**[05:17:33.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004940)  
at that same time,

**[05:17:35.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004941)  
ay nagkaroon pa ng magandang benepisyo

**[05:17:37.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004942)  
doon sa ating mga estudyanting

**[05:17:39.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004943)  
na turuan po niya.

**[05:17:41.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004944)  
At ito lang po ay nagpapatunay lamang,

**[05:17:43.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004945)  
ito lang po ay sa isang city,

**[05:17:46.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004946)  
at that same time,

**[05:17:46.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004947)  
pwede rin pong implement

**[05:17:47.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004948)  
sa mga bawat distrito

**[05:17:49.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004949)  
o sa bawat regyon

**[05:17:50.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004950)  
sa ating bansang Pilipinas.

**[05:17:51.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-004951)  
That's all, Madam Speaker and Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:17:54.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004952)  
Well,

**[05:17:56.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004953)  
maganda lang po

**[05:17:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004954)  
ating mga tutors,

**[05:17:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004955)  
at this point, dahil pinag-uusapan natin

**[05:18:01.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004956)  
ng TUPAD, mabalikan po natin ang kasaysayan.

**[05:18:04.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004957)  
Kailan po ba nagsimula

**[05:18:05.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004958)  
yung programang TUPAD?

**[05:18:08.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004959)  
Nababanggit ng sponsor,

**[05:18:09.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004960)  
nagsimula ito noong panahon ng pandemic.

**[05:18:12.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004961)  
Actually, hindi po totoo.

**[05:18:14.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004962)  
At bahagi po ako ng

**[05:18:15.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004963)  
Kongreso, at nasaksihan ko

**[05:18:17.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004964)  
kung kailan nilikha

**[05:18:19.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004965)  
yung programang TUPAD.

**[05:18:22.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004966)  
Kailan po?

**[05:18:24.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004967)  
Una pong makikita

**[05:18:25.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004968)  
natin ang TUPAD

**[05:18:27.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004969)  
sa general

**[05:18:29.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004970)  
Appropriations Act

**[05:18:30.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004971)  
ng 2014.

**[05:18:35.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004972)  
2014 po.

**[05:18:37.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004973)  
Okay?

**[05:18:38.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004974)  
Kung balikan nyo

**[05:18:39.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004975)  
yung General Appropriations Act

**[05:18:42.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004976)  
ng 2013,

**[05:18:45.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004977)  
wala pa pong TUPAD.

**[05:18:47.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004978)  
Wala pa po.

**[05:18:48.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004979)  
Tignan nyo yung, I mean, hindi ko na

**[05:18:50.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004980)  
mapaflash, ganyan ko lang binuksan muli ito.

**[05:18:53.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004981)  
Pero tignan nyo po

**[05:18:54.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004982)  
sa special provisions

**[05:18:55.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004983)  
ng Department of Labor and Employment,

**[05:18:59.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004984)  
dun po,

**[05:18:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004985)  
kinapangalanan

**[05:19:01.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004986)  
yung mga programa, no?

**[05:19:03.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004987)  
Special provision number one,

**[05:19:05.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004988)  
verification fees. Special provision number two,

**[05:19:09.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004989)  
appropriations for programs

**[05:19:10.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004990)  
and specific activities.

**[05:19:12.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004991)  
Tapos binabanggit na yung mga programa,

**[05:19:14.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004992)  
walang TUPAD.

**[05:19:15.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004993)  
2013 po.

**[05:19:17.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004994)  
2014,

**[05:19:19.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004995)  
General Appropriations Act,

**[05:19:22.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004996)  
eto na po.

**[05:19:23.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004997)  
Special provision number one,

**[05:19:25.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004998)  
verification fees, and number two,

**[05:19:28.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-004999)  
government internship program,

**[05:19:29.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005000)  
tama kayo magkaugnayon,

**[05:19:30.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005001)  
government internship program,

**[05:19:33.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005002)  
and tulong panghanap buhay

**[05:19:35.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005003)  
sa ating disadvantaged workers

**[05:19:37.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005004)  
TUPAD project.

**[05:19:39.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005005)  
Yan po ang unang-unang pagkakataon

**[05:19:41.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005006)  
na lumitaw sa budget.

**[05:19:44.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005007)  
The amount

**[05:19:45.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005008)  
of 1,022,000,000 pesos

**[05:19:48.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005009)  
appropriated herein

**[05:19:50.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005010)  
under conduct of

**[05:19:51.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005011)  
training, livelihood, and enterprise

**[05:19:53.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005012)  
development and other capacity

**[05:19:55.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005013)  
building programs for

**[05:19:57.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005014)  
students, youths, and

**[05:19:59.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005015)  
disabled workers, and for

**[05:20:01.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005016)  
the rural workers, including

**[05:20:03.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005017)  
programs for self-organization

**[05:20:05.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005018)  
for plantation workers,

**[05:20:07.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005019)  
shall be used as follows.

**[05:20:09.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005020)  
Number one, for the

**[05:20:11.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005021)  
payment of stipend of beneficiaries

**[05:20:13.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005022)  
equivalent to—

**[05:20:16.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005022-split-2)  
Representative Tinio, that his time has expired.

**[05:20:19.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005022-split-3)  
Yes, tatapusin na lang po natin. For the payment of stipend of beneficiaries equivalent to 75%

**[05:20:25.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005023)  
of the existing minimum wage

**[05:20:27.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005024)  
in the area during the

**[05:20:29.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005025)  
six-month office field training

**[05:20:31.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005026)  
in the government under the GIP.

**[05:20:33.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005027)  
So, six-month stipend po

**[05:20:35.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005028)  
para sa GIP.

**[05:20:37.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005029)  
Yung number two, for the payment

**[05:20:39.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005030)  
of wages of displaced workers

**[05:20:41.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005031)  
resulting from weather

**[05:20:43.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005032)  
and regulatory

**[05:20:45.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005033)  
shocks,

**[05:20:47.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005034)  
weather, kalamidad, regulatory

**[05:20:49.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005035)  
shocks, layoff,

**[05:20:51.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005036)  
no, because of

**[05:20:53.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005037)  
neoliberal economic

**[05:20:55.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005038)  
policies, and

**[05:20:57.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005039)  
internal conflict. So, sinama po, pati

**[05:20:59.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005040)  
internal conflict

**[05:21:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005041)  
during their short-term employment

**[05:21:03.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005042)  
under the TUPAD project.

**[05:21:06.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005043)  
Okay. So, yun po

**[05:21:07.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005044)  
ang una. At binigyan po ng

**[05:21:09.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005045)  
budget ng 1.022 billion.

**[05:21:12.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005046)  
And from then on,

**[05:21:14.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005047)  
from then on, lumaki

**[05:21:15.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005048)  
ng lumaki, at yun na nga,

**[05:21:17.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005049)  
sinabi natin,

**[05:21:19.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005050)  
2016, 600

**[05:21:21.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005051)  
billion,

**[05:21:23.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005052)  
20,

**[05:21:24.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005053)  
20,

**[05:21:27.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005054)  
20,

**[05:21:29.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005056)  
well, this year, it's something like

**[05:21:30.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005057)  
24 billion. Ganon, ano?

**[05:21:33.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005058)  
So, lumobo nang lumobo na ito.

**[05:21:35.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005059)  
Okay. Bakit po

**[05:21:36.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005060)  
2014? Ilan po ang gusto

**[05:21:38.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005061)  
nating ma-put on the record?

**[05:21:41.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005062)  
Why 2014? The budget

**[05:21:43.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005063)  
for 2014, of course, was approved

**[05:21:45.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005064)  
in the last quarter

**[05:21:47.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005065)  
of

**[05:21:48.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005066)  
2013.

**[05:21:51.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005067)  
Diba? Ano nangyari

**[05:21:52.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005068)  
nung last quarter of 2013?

**[05:21:55.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005069)  
Specifically, November 2013.

**[05:21:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005070)  
Lumabas po ang

**[05:21:58.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005071)  
Belgica versus Ochoa.

**[05:22:01.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005072)  
At ano yung

**[05:22:03.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005073)  
Belgica versus Ochoa?

**[05:22:05.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005074)  
That is the landmark

**[05:22:06.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005075)  
Supreme Court ruling that declared

**[05:22:09.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005076)  
the PDAF unconstitutional.

**[05:22:12.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005077)  
So, kaya po,

**[05:22:16.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005078)  
sa totoo lang,

**[05:22:17.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005079)  
yung TUPAD nilikha

**[05:22:18.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005080)  
bilang pang-salo

**[05:22:20.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005081)  
sa

**[05:22:22.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005082)  
soft

**[05:22:23.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005083)  
portion

**[05:22:28.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005086)  
Di ba? Yung PDAF noon,

**[05:22:30.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005087)  
merong hard

**[05:22:31.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005088)  
for infrastructure

**[05:22:32.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005089)  
and soft

**[05:22:33.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005090)  
for

**[05:22:34.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005091)  
ayuda.

**[05:22:36.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005092)  
Ganon.

**[05:22:37.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005093)  
Dati,

**[05:22:38.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005094)  
ang menu niyan,

**[05:22:40.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005095)  
mainly for education,

**[05:22:41.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005096)  
scholarships,

**[05:22:42.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005097)  
health assistance,

**[05:22:44.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005098)  
and

**[05:22:45.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005099)  
wala pa po actually,

**[05:22:47.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005100)  
walang

**[05:22:47.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005101)  
for employment.

**[05:22:50.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005102)  
No?

**[05:22:50.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005103)  
So, nilikha po ang tupad

**[05:22:52.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005104)  
para sa General Appropriations Act

**[05:22:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005105)  
ng 2014

**[05:22:56.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005106)  
para ilagay doon,

**[05:22:58.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005107)  
yung dating pondo

**[05:23:01.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005108)  
ng mga congressman

**[05:23:02.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005109)  
na kanilang soft pork barrel

**[05:23:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005110)  
or PDAF.

**[05:23:07.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005111)  
So, yun po ang origin yan.

**[05:23:08.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005112)  
Kaya alam naman natin, hanggang ngayon,

**[05:23:10.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005113)  
ganon pa rin ang nature

**[05:23:12.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005114)  
ng tupad.

**[05:23:15.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005115)  
Yes,

**[05:23:17.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005116)  
major, it is the biggest

**[05:23:19.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005117)  
program

**[05:23:19.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005118)  
of the Department of Labor and Employment,

**[05:23:24.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005119)  
pero sa totoo lang,

**[05:23:24.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005120)  
alam naman natin, yung tupad,

**[05:23:27.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005121)  
it's patronage-based.

**[05:23:28.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005122)  
Yung mga benepisyaryo niyan,

**[05:23:31.960] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005123)  
representative,

**[05:23:32.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005124)  
that his time has expired.

**[05:23:34.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005125)  
Ang mga benepisyaryo niyan,

**[05:23:37.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005126)  
ay yung listahan

**[05:23:38.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005127)  
na binibigay ng mga congressman.

**[05:23:41.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005128)  
Hindi po ba, ganon pa rin naman

**[05:23:42.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005129)  
ang nature ng tupad hanggang ngayon?

**[05:23:47.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005130)  
Kahit po, tapos na po yung oras

**[05:23:48.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005131)  
ng ating distinguished colleague.

**[05:23:50.240] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005132)  
The sponsor may or may not respond.

**[05:23:51.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005133)  
I will answer that,

**[05:23:53.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005134)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[05:23:56.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005135)  
Alam po nyo,

**[05:23:56.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005136)  
sa timeline po ninyong

**[05:23:58.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005137)  
binigay, tama po, 2014,

**[05:24:00.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005138)  
na lumitaw yan sa ating

**[05:24:02.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005139)  
General Appropriations Act.

**[05:24:04.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005140)  
It started out, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[05:24:06.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005141)  
na ito po ay proyekto lamang

**[05:24:08.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005142)  
2009.

**[05:24:09.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005143)  
And as I said earlier,

**[05:24:12.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005144)  
based on your statement and your graph,

**[05:24:15.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005145)  
na tama, unang lumabas ito sa

**[05:24:16.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005146)  
2014 na

**[05:24:18.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005147)  
General Appropriations Act.

**[05:24:20.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005148)  
Now, during that timeline,

**[05:24:23.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005149)  
yung sinasabi nyo po

**[05:24:24.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005150)  
kasing menu, I cannot

**[05:24:25.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005151)  
answer to that.

**[05:24:28.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005152)  
Because, hindi ko po alam kung saan yung nakita yan o what so ever.

**[05:24:35.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005153)  
But, dole, pat-dole,

**[05:24:37.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005154)  
on our part, kasi

**[05:24:39.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005155)  
ang proseso po namin,

**[05:24:41.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005156)  
pag may tupad is, yes,

**[05:24:43.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005157)  
kaya po lumalobo yung

**[05:24:45.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005158)  
Office of the Secretary, pero ito po ay

**[05:24:47.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005159)  
idadownload naman po namin sa

**[05:24:49.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005160)  
ating mga regional offices.

**[05:24:52.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005161)  
And based sa aming requirements, procedure,

**[05:24:56.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005162)  
at dadaan din po sa

**[05:24:58.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005163)  
peso, para siguraduhin natin

**[05:25:00.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005164)  
validated yung mga nandyan.

**[05:25:03.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005165)  
At

**[05:25:03.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005166)  
in our case,

**[05:25:07.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005167)  
sabi ko nga po, dumadaan sa

**[05:25:08.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005168)  
peso na laging

**[05:25:10.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005169)  
kaakibat o kaalakbay

**[05:25:12.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005170)  
ng ating Department of Labor and Employment.

**[05:25:15.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005171)  
That's all, Madam Speaker.

**[05:25:16.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005172)  
Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po sa sagot.

**[05:25:19.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005173)  
At bilang pagwakas,

**[05:25:21.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005174)  
dinidihin po natin,

**[05:25:22.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005175)  
ang punto natin sa interpelasyon ito,

**[05:25:25.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005176)  
ipakita yung

**[05:25:26.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005177)  
pagkainutin,

**[05:25:28.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005178)  
magpapahirap na

**[05:25:30.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005179)  
ng patakaran ng

**[05:25:32.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005180)  
regionalized wage setting,

**[05:25:34.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005181)  
na sa totoo lang ay

**[05:25:36.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005182)  
municipalized and localized pa nga.

**[05:25:38.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005183)  
Nagpapahirap na,

**[05:25:40.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005184)  
malinaw na nagpapahirap

**[05:25:42.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005185)  
sa mga gagawang Pilipino

**[05:25:44.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005186)  
sa halip na ipinagtatanggol

**[05:25:46.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005187)  
ang karapatan niya sa nakabubuhay

**[05:25:48.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005188)  
na sahod. So,

**[05:25:50.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005189)  
naka-address po ito sa Kongreso,

**[05:25:52.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005190)  
dapat ipasa na

**[05:25:54.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005191)  
ay balik ang National

**[05:25:56.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005192)  
Legislated Wage Increase, at kailangan,

**[05:25:58.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005193)  
nakabata ito sa Family Living Wage.

**[05:26:00.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005194)  
Ngayon, numaabot sa 1,300 a day.

**[05:26:02.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005195)  
Pangalawa,

**[05:26:04.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005196)  
panahon na po

**[05:26:06.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005197)  
para ibalik

**[05:26:08.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005198)  
ang DOLE sa kanyang

**[05:26:10.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005199)  
pangunahing mandato.

**[05:26:12.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005200)  
Hindi siya isang

**[05:26:14.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005201)  
ayuda agency,

**[05:26:16.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005202)  
kung hindi ahensya na dapat

**[05:26:18.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005203)  
nakatutok sa pagbantay

**[05:26:20.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005204)  
at pagprotekta sa

**[05:26:22.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005205)  
karapatan ng manggagawang

**[05:26:24.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005206)  
Pilipino. Kaya, itutulak po

**[05:26:26.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005207)  
natin na dapat

**[05:26:28.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005208)  
tanggalin na,

**[05:26:30.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005209)  
bawasan ng malaki, kundi man tanggalin

**[05:26:32.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005210)  
ang

**[05:26:34.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005211)  
napakalaking budget sa tupad,

**[05:26:36.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005212)  
ilipat sa core functions

**[05:26:38.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005213)  
ng

**[05:26:40.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005214)  
core functions and programs

**[05:26:42.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005215)  
ng DOLE, at yung

**[05:26:44.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005216)  
mas malaking bahagi ay

**[05:26:46.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005217)  
dalhin sa ibang mga

**[05:26:48.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005218)  
pangangailangan na kinaltasan ngayon

**[05:26:50.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005219)  
para sa edukasyon,

**[05:26:52.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005220)  
kalusugan, at iba pang

**[05:26:54.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005221)  
social services. Hanggang doon na lamang po,

**[05:26:56.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005222)  
Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

**[05:26:58.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005223)  
Maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

**[05:27:00.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005224)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:27:02.380] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-005225)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we

**[05:27:04.380] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-005226)  
recognize Representative Sara Jane

**[05:27:06.380] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-005227)  
Elago of Gabriela Women's Party

**[05:27:08.380] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-005228)  
List for her interpolation.

**[05:27:10.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005229)  
Representative Sara Jane Elago of

**[05:27:12.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005230)  
Gabriela Women's Party List is hereby

**[05:27:14.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005231)  
recognized for her interpolation.

**[05:27:18.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005232)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, na

**[05:27:20.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005233)  
iskong magsimula sa manipastasyon

**[05:27:22.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005234)  
bilang pagsuporta sa paninindigan

**[05:27:24.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005235)  
ng mga nauna nating kasamahan,

**[05:27:26.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005236)  
lalong-lalo na pagdating sa

**[05:27:28.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005237)  
panawagan ng mga manggagawa,

**[05:27:30.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005238)  
ng mga kababaihan

**[05:27:32.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005239)  
na itaas na ang

**[05:27:34.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005240)  
sahod. Hindi

**[05:27:36.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005241)  
dapat gawin na pamalit sa

**[05:27:38.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005242)  
Wage Order Number NCR-27

**[05:27:40.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005243)  
ang Wage Order Number NCR-28

**[05:27:42.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005244)  
na magiging

**[05:27:44.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005245)  
efektibo lamang sa Setiembre

**[05:27:46.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005246)  
26. Ang dagdag

**[05:27:48.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005247)  
sahod mula Wage Order 27

**[05:27:50.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005248)  
na dapat 85 peso

**[05:27:52.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005249)  
sa dalawang tranches

**[05:27:54.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005250)  
na hindi natanggap ng mga manggagawa

**[05:27:56.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005251)  
simula Julyo 2026

**[05:27:58.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005252)  
ay dagdag sana sa kanilang

**[05:28:00.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005253)  
pang-araw-araw na gastusin

**[05:28:02.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005254)  
sa gitna ng walang humpay na

**[05:28:04.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005255)  
pagtaas ng presyo ng mga bilihin.

**[05:28:06.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005256)  
Lalong nalantad ang

**[05:28:08.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005257)  
bulok na sistemang pasahod

**[05:28:10.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005258)  
sa ilalim ng Regional

**[05:28:12.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005259)  
Wage Boards. Ito rin ang dahilan

**[05:28:14.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005260)  
kung bakit ang mga manggagawa ay

**[05:28:16.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005261)  
patuloy na nakakulong

**[05:28:18.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005262)  
sa napakababang sahod na

**[05:28:20.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005263)  
hindi sapat para sa kanilang mga

**[05:28:22.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005264)  
pamilya at hindi rin sapat para

**[05:28:24.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005265)  
sa isang pamumuhay

**[05:28:26.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005266)  
na may dignidad. Dapat nang buwagin

**[05:28:28.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005267)  
ang mga Regional Wage Boards at

**[05:28:30.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005268)  
itakda ang isang pambansang

**[05:28:32.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005269)  
minimum wage na nakabubuhay

**[05:28:34.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005270)  
sa buong bansa. Ngayon,

**[05:28:36.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005271)  
kaugnay nito, Madam Speaker,

**[05:28:38.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005272)  
ang Pilipinas ngayon

**[05:28:40.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005273)  
ay nasa ilalim pa rin ng State of

**[05:28:42.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005274)  
National Energy Emergency

**[05:28:44.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005275)  
sa visa ng Executive Order

**[05:28:46.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005276)  
Number 110. At isa sa

**[05:28:48.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005277)  
mga puna ng ating representasyon

**[05:28:50.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005278)  
pagdating dito, hindi kasama

**[05:28:52.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005279)  
ang Department of Labor and Employment

**[05:28:54.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005280)  
dun sa mga pangunahin

**[05:28:56.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005281)  
ng mga agencies

**[05:28:58.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005282)  
na dapat ay kasama nito

**[05:29:00.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005283)  
na mag-aral kung ano ba ang epekto sa

**[05:29:02.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005284)  
industriya, sa kabuhayan, sa trabaho.

**[05:29:04.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005285)  
At natanong po natin

**[05:29:06.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005286)  
kung nakasama na ba ang DOLE

**[05:29:08.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005287)  
sa mga meetings

**[05:29:10.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005288)  
ng Uplift Committee

**[05:29:12.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005289)  
at napag-uusapan ba ngayon

**[05:29:14.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005290)  
dahil

**[05:29:16.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005291)  
meron na namang

**[05:29:18.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005292)  
pangalawa na malaking

**[05:29:20.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005293)  
oil price hike

**[05:29:22.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005294)  
ngayong linggo.

**[05:29:24.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005295)  
Mataas na naman ang presyo

**[05:29:26.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005296)  
ng diesel, gasolina, LPG,

**[05:29:28.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005297)  
kerosene. At maski ang Kongreso

**[05:29:30.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005298)  
na ito na

**[05:29:32.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005299)  
nagpasa ng pagkakaroon

**[05:29:34.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005300)  
ng emergency powers

**[05:29:36.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005301)  
para sa Presidente na suspendihin

**[05:29:38.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005302)  
ang excise taxes,

**[05:29:40.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005303)  
sa ngayon po wala na

**[05:29:42.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005304)  
na in effect. Dahil

**[05:29:44.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005305)  
nag-expire na yung para

**[05:29:46.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005306)  
sa suspension ng excise

**[05:29:48.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005307)  
taxes sa LPG at kerosene

**[05:29:50.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005308)  
after 3 months, simula nung April

**[05:29:52.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005309)  
na masuspend ito. Sa ngayon, may

**[05:29:54.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005310)  
balita bang DOLE? Nakasama na ba kayo

**[05:29:56.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005311)  
dito sa mga meetings

**[05:29:58.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005312)  
ng Uplift? At ano yung mga

**[05:29:59.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005313)  
recommendations ninyo para

**[05:30:01.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005314)  
masuportahan yung impact sa jobs ngayong taon at sa susunod na taon ng pagtaas ng presyo ng langis?

**[05:30:11.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005315)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, tungkol po dun sa inyong katanungan na kung kasama po ang Department of Labor and Employment dun sa ating uplift na kung saan,

**[05:30:21.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005316)  
the answer is yes, tatlong beses na pong nakasama sa pagpupulong ang ating Department of Labor and Employment and tinitignan ko po yung oras, hindi po bukas, mamaya po meron na pong pagpupulong at dadalo po muli ang ating Departamento ng Labor and Employment.

**[05:30:39.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005317)  
Sa pagpupulong na ito, Madam Speaker, nagkaroon na ng pagtaas, wage order para sa NCR, meron bang plano para sa labas naman ng NCR sa mga susunod na panahon?

**[05:30:54.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005318)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, your question is kung may kasunod pang wage order?

**[05:31:01.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005318-split-2)  
Outside NCR.

**[05:31:03.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005318-split-3)  
Outside NCR? Yes.

**[05:31:04.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005318-split-4)  
Akin na yung

**[05:31:09.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005319)  
Ito po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ang mga rehyong pinakamalapit na anibersaaryo ng kanilang kasulukoy ang wage orders ay Regions 7, 4A, and 3.

**[05:31:21.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005320)  
At region 3. At babasahin ko po yung anibersaary dates para at least klaro po yung ating kung kailan.

**[05:31:29.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005321)  
Yung anibersaary date po ng 7 is October 4, 2026. Region 4A is October 5 of 2026. And region 3 is October 30 of 2026.

**[05:31:41.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005322)  
Ngayon, ang scheduled date of consultations, it varies.

**[05:31:48.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005323)  
At siguro po yung ating date of publication.

**[05:31:51.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005324)  
At siguro po yung ating date of publication notice of public hearings. Sa ating Region 7 was August 5, 2026.

**[05:31:57.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005325)  
Region 4A was August 7 of 2026. And region 3 was September 19 of 2026.

**[05:32:07.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005326)  
And the date of public hearings, again, Region 7 is August 24 and 25 of 2026.

**[05:32:13.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005327)  
Also, September 3 and 4 of the year, again, 2026.

**[05:32:17.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005328)  
Patungo naman po sa Region 4A, again, August 25, 2026.

**[05:32:21.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005329)  
And 15 and 17 of September, 2026.

**[05:32:27.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005330)  
Last region, Region 3 po, October 5, 14, 20, and 21 of 2026.

**[05:32:33.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005331)  
November 5, 9, and 11 of 2026.

**[05:32:36.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005332)  
So, yung tatlong regiyon po, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, ang mga nakatakdang mga wage orders sa mga susunod.

**[05:32:42.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005333)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maganda po marinig na may mga updates.

**[05:32:46.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005334)  
Pero, muli, sa ngayon talaga, sa panahon ngayon, hindi lang bari-bari ang kasunod.

**[05:32:51.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005335)  
Pagtataas yung kinakailangan natin. Ang Kongreso mismo ang dapat kumilos para sa pagkakaroon ng Legislated Wage Increase.

**[05:32:58.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005336)  
Bukod pa dyan, ay lakasan din ang boses tungkol sa pagtatanggal ng mga patong-patong na buwis na pinapataw ngayon sa ating mga kababayan,

**[05:33:08.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005337)  
sa mga batayang pangangailangan sa pagkain, sa kuryente, sa langis.

**[05:33:13.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005338)  
Talaga pong napakabigat niyan para sa mga ordinaryong mga manggagawa, sa mga ordinaryong Pilipino.

**[05:33:18.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005339)  
Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, sa...

**[05:33:21.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005340)  
Report na nasubmit sa atin ng DOLE, mula 2022 hanggang 2025,

**[05:33:27.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005341)  
nasa 50.05 milyon ang nakolekta na penalties mula sa mga establishments na lumabag sa OSH standards at naideposito na sa Bureau of Treasury.

**[05:33:41.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005342)  
Ayon sa report, hindi ito naa-access ng DOLE para sa implementation ng OSH law.

**[05:33:47.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005343)  
Maari bang malaman bakit ganito yung nangyayari?

**[05:33:51.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005344)  
Madam Speaker, malaking pondo ito.

**[05:33:54.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005345)  
Pero yung dapat sana, ayon sa batas, na nagagamit natin para sa occupational safety and health training and education

**[05:34:04.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005346)  
at iba pang mga programa pang kalusugan na may kinalaman din sa occupational safety,

**[05:34:11.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005347)  
ay wala pa pong naka-airmark na pondo na tiyak na magagamit para sa mahal.

**[05:34:21.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005348)  
Ano talagang mga programang ito?

**[05:34:23.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005349)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:34:25.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005350)  
And yung nakolekta po is 15,569,000.

**[05:34:31.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005351)  
And sadly, kailangan po ito ng...

**[05:34:34.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005352)  
Kaya po ito hindi nagagamit ang inyong katanungan.

**[05:34:37.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005353)  
It's because sa ating General Appropriations Act, kailangan po ng special provisions sa JA

**[05:34:42.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005354)  
para ito ay magamit ng ating OSH,

**[05:34:46.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005355)  
para ito ay magamit po natin sa mga susunod na...

**[05:34:51.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005356)  
mag-utilize ng ating mga pondo.

**[05:34:53.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005357)  
So, timingly po, hindi pa naman po tapos yung ating...

**[05:34:57.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005358)  
We're just in the middle of the budget deliberations.

**[05:35:00.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005359)  
Siguro po, through your representation, ay siguraduhin natin kasi lagi pong nakakaligtaan, unfortunately.

**[05:35:07.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005360)  
So ngayon, sana po, with you, stating it for the record,

**[05:35:10.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005361)  
na sana po na magkaroon na ng special provision dito para ito ay magamit na ng aming departamento.

**[05:35:15.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005362)  
Madam Speaker, ang mungkahi ng doling ay magdagdag nga ng special provision.

**[05:35:21.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005363)  
Sa ating General Appropriations Bill, para maisama na ang pagbibigay ng authority

**[05:35:27.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005364)  
sa DOLE na gamitin ang 10% ng mga nakolekta ng mga fines

**[05:35:32.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005365)  
para sa operasyon ng Occupational Safety and Health Initiatives

**[05:35:36.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005366)  
kabilang na ang training, education, at health programs.

**[05:35:40.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005367)  
Maari po bang malaman kung bakit ang proposal ng DOLE ay paggamit lamang ng 10%?

**[05:35:46.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005368)  
Hindi ba dapat mas mataas pa yung kinakailangan natin?

**[05:35:50.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005369)  
Para matiyak na mas malawak yung maabot ng mga mahalagang programa na ito?

**[05:35:56.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005370)  
Meron din ba kayong insights kung saan po nagagamit yung mga nakolekta naman itong mga nakaraang taon

**[05:36:02.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005371)  
mula ng mapalakas natin ang OSLO sa ating bansa?

**[05:36:10.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005372)  
Madam Speaker, well initially, tama po kayo na yung 10% lamang yung hinihingi ng DOLE.

**[05:36:17.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005373)  
But for the record, pwede naman pong taas.

**[05:36:20.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005374)  
But the reason of being which na bakit ito po ay 10% lamang is because

**[05:36:24.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005375)  
one, it's for capacity building muna and may sariling pondo rin yung ibang ahensya tulad ng DA, DOTR, DOH.

**[05:36:34.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005376)  
So that's the reason.

**[05:36:35.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005377)  
But for the record, as per Department of Labor Employment, pwede naman po itong taasan.

**[05:36:42.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005378)  
Mahalagay ito, Madam Speaker, kasi bagamat may mga kanya-kanyang pondo din yung ibat-ibang mga NGAs natin,

**[05:36:48.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005379)  
siyempre kailangan din natin yung malawak na partisipasyon ng pribadong sektor pagdating sa pagsunod sa OSLO.

**[05:36:56.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005380)  
Kaya bawat piso na mailalaan natin sa programa para dun sa prevention ng kahit anong violations ng OSH standards ay napakalaga.

**[05:37:07.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005381)  
Dahil hindi dapat tayo tumutugon lang kapag may nangyari na aksidente na hindi na dapat nangyayari

**[05:37:15.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005382)  
sa ating mga lugar ng hanap buhay.

**[05:37:18.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005383)  
Hanap buhay nga, di ba? Hindi hanap aksidente o hindi hanap patay sa pinakamalalang pangyayari.

**[05:37:26.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005384)  
Kaya dapat mas mataas yung nilalaan natin na pagtulak sa mga preventive efforts.

**[05:37:34.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005385)  
Ngayon naman, at ang bagay po na yan, ang paglalaan at pagdadagdag ng ganitong special provision

**[05:37:41.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005386)  
ay isusulong ng representasyon na ito na dapat suportahan din ng ating distinguished sponsor.

**[05:37:48.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005387)  
Hindi po tayo masasapat lang sa 10%. Kung pwedeng mas mataas pa, dapat gawin nating suportahan yan.

**[05:37:54.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005388)  
Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, nais kong magtanong tungkol sa mekanismo ng DOLE para matugunan ang problema ng underemployment sa ating bansa.

**[05:38:06.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005389)  
Sa pinakahuling datos ng PSA, nito lang huling linggo na lumabas, pumalo na sa 12.1% ngayong June 2026.

**[05:38:18.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005390)  
Meron po bang particular na programa para dito ang DOLE?

**[05:38:23.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005391)  
Kasi ito po ay nilapit din natin kahapon sa DepDev na hindi pa sila naaalarma na pagkalaki-laki po ng underemployed sa ating bansa.

**[05:38:35.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005392)  
Kasama dito, Madam Speaker, yung hindi umaabot sa 40 hours kada linggo ang kanilang oras ng trabaho.

**[05:38:44.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005393)  
Kaya po mas maliit yung kanilang kinikita.

**[05:38:48.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005394)  
Nandito rin po, Madam Speaker, yung mga bukod sa kanilang trabaho, naghahanap pa ng ibang mga dagdag, pang racket, para lang makadagdag sa kanila pong income.

**[05:39:00.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005395)  
Meron ba tayong particular programs and initiatives na may kinalaman sa pagtugon sa issue na ito?

**[05:39:07.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005396)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ako po inipapasalamat at tinanong mo yan.

**[05:39:11.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005397)  
Sa pagkat, yun sa ating underemployment, alam naman po natin ang depenisyon.

**[05:39:18.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005398)  
Nating kailangan ulitin na yung ating mga kababayan na naginais pa na magkaroon ng dagdagkita.

**[05:39:25.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005399)  
At sa kasalukuyan, ito po ay nasa 12.9 percent.

**[05:39:30.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005400)  
O pag tinanslate mo yan ay 6.33 million.

**[05:39:35.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005401)  
At ang inyong katanungan po ay, nakuha ng mga programa ng aming departamento na ito ay para tugunan.

**[05:39:42.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005402)  
Alam nyo po, tupad is one of the key factors.

**[05:39:48.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005403)  
Na nilalagay po natin yan.

**[05:39:49.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005404)  
Kanina po, tinatanong po tayo ng ating mga kasamahan kung bakit natin na ganong kalaki yung ating pondo is because,

**[05:39:56.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005405)  
alam mo, pag pumunta ka po sa isang lugar na probinsya, ito po ay napakalaking tulong.

**[05:40:02.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005406)  
At yun po ay ang isa sa mga katugunan natin doon sa underemployment.

**[05:40:06.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005407)  
Let's face the reality, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, minsan talaga sa mga probinsya ay kailangan-kailangan ito.

**[05:40:12.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005408)  
Pero hindi lang po doon nagtatapos yung ating pagtulong sa pertaining sa underemployment.

**[05:40:16.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005409)  
Alam mo, studies have shown that,

**[05:40:18.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005410)  
doon sa ating labor force na kalalabas lamang,

**[05:40:21.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005411)  
na importanteng-importante rin yung ating mga ibang programa ng DOLE tulad ng Job Start,

**[05:40:26.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005412)  
tulad ng ating pagugunayan sa peso, job fairs,

**[05:40:30.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005413)  
na para sa kung saan ay makita natin yung ating mga needs ng ating mga employers.

**[05:40:36.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005414)  
Maaring kasi, based on study na rin also, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[05:40:40.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005415)  
na kalimitan ay nagmi-mismatch, nagkakaroon ng mismatch doon sa ating mga aplikante.

**[05:40:45.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005416)  
At the same time, doon papasok yung aming mga binanggit,

**[05:40:48.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005417)  
na apat na programa ng Departamento para at least kahit papano makatugunan yung mga pangangailangan ng ating mga gagawa.

**[05:40:55.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005418)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[05:40:57.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005419)  
Ngunit tulad na rin ang nasabi ng ating Distinguished Sponsor,

**[05:41:01.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005420)  
may ambag, may relief, pero temporary lang.

**[05:41:04.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005421)  
At ang panawagan ng ating mga kababayan,

**[05:41:07.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005422)  
mas maraming job opportunities na regular, sigurado para sa kanila.

**[05:41:12.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005423)  
Kaya dapat makita rin natin yung ganyang pagtingin, yung ganyang prinsipyo,

**[05:41:17.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005424)  
sa kung paano natin binibigyan ng pondo yung ating mga programa.

**[05:41:21.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005425)  
Hindi lang para sa mga short-term temporary relief,

**[05:41:24.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005426)  
pero para doon sa mga pangmatagalan na paglikha ng trabaho dito sa bansa.

**[05:41:30.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005427)  
Ngayon naman, tungkol po sa social amelioration program,

**[05:41:35.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005428)  
ang galing po sa ulat na binigay ng DOLE mula 2024 hanggang 2025,

**[05:41:42.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005429)  
na nakapagbigay ng ₱48.91 million sa 3,764 mill workers.

**[05:41:47.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005430)  
At ₱93.56 million sa 437,667 field workers.

**[05:41:55.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005431)  
Kung ikukompute ito, Madam Speaker,

**[05:41:58.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005432)  
nasa P213 pesos lang, P213.76 pesos lang ang matatanggap ng field workers,

**[05:42:05.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005433)  
samantalang nasa P12,993 per mill workers.

**[05:42:10.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005434)  
Ang tanong ko dito,

**[05:42:13.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005435)  
tama po ba na sa ngayon ang binibigay natin kada mill workers?

**[05:42:17.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005436)  
Ang binibigay sa mill workers ay nasa mga ₱2,000 to ₱3,000,

**[05:42:22.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005437)  
samantalang sa field workers, nasa P200 pesos lang po yung binibigay sa ngayon.

**[05:43:01.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005439)  
Madam Speaker,

**[05:43:02.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005440)  
my distinguished colleague,

**[05:43:03.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005441)  
one-minute suspension.

**[05:43:05.140] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005442)  
Session is suspended.

**[05:44:37.540] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005447)  
Session is resumed.

**[05:44:41.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005448)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Ah tama po doon sa ating average na binanggit ng ating distinguished colleague.

**[05:44:49.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005449)  
And I'd like to point out, sa determination of the cash bonus. Nakalagay po rito that amount of cash bonus being distributed to field workers amounts to a maximum of 10,000, while the amount received by mill

**[05:45:00.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005450)  
workers amounting to a maximum of 15,000

**[05:45:02.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005451)  
distributed at the end of

**[05:45:04.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005452)  
the year, Madam Speaker Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:45:06.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005453)  
Maraming salamat, Madam

**[05:45:07.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005454)  
Speaker. Ngunit, sa panahon po

**[05:45:10.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005455)  
ngayon, abatay po sa ating mga

**[05:45:11.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005456)  
konsultasyon sa mga mill workers

**[05:45:13.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005457)  
at mga field workers sa sugar

**[05:45:16.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005458)  
industry, meron ho nakakatanggap

**[05:45:18.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005459)  
ng singliit ng 200

**[05:45:19.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005460)  
to 300 pesos. Hindi po

**[05:45:22.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005461)  
makatarungan yan dahil sa pang-araw-araw

**[05:45:24.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005462)  
pa lang nagastusin ng mga

**[05:45:26.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005463)  
manggagawang bukid. Sa tubuhan,

**[05:45:28.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005464)  
lalong-lalo na ngayon, ata,

**[05:45:30.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005465)  
panahon ng Tiempo Muerto,

**[05:45:32.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005466)  
wala po talagang kinikita

**[05:45:34.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005467)  
yung ating mga kababayan.

**[05:45:37.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005468)  
Kaya sinusuportahan ang

**[05:45:38.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005469)  
kinatawan na ito, ang panawagan

**[05:45:40.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005470)  
ng mga manggagawang bukid

**[05:45:42.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005471)  
sa tubuhan na dapat gawing

**[05:45:44.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005472)  
5,000 pesos ang minimum

**[05:45:45.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005473)  
ng cash bonus sa ilalim

**[05:45:48.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005474)  
ng social amelioration

**[05:45:50.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005475)  
program. Ata, susuportahan

**[05:45:52.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005476)  
po ba ng DOLE ang

**[05:45:54.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005477)  
pagtitiyak na meron po tayong

**[05:45:56.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005478)  
minimum pagdating dito sa cash

**[05:45:58.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005479)  
bonus fund? Ang malaking issue kasi

**[05:46:00.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005480)  
dito, Madam Speaker,

**[05:46:02.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005481)  
yung 200 pesos,

**[05:46:04.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005482)  
300 pesos, hindi pa po yan

**[05:46:06.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005483)  
kasya para dun sa pamasahe

**[05:46:08.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005484)  
pa lang ng mga kukuha

**[05:46:10.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005485)  
ng mga workers. Kaya nga po,

**[05:46:13.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005486)  
nilapit din sa atin ng mga

**[05:46:14.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005487)  
stakeholders na may mga panahon na

**[05:46:16.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005488)  
hindi na lang kinukuha

**[05:46:17.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005489)  
yung ganitong bonus fund

**[05:46:20.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005490)  
kasi sa pamasahe pa lang

**[05:46:22.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005491)  
ay lugi na sila. Kaya,

**[05:46:24.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005492)  
sa tingin ko, dapat ang tindig dito

**[05:46:26.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005493)  
ng DOLE, all out, na support,

**[05:46:28.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005494)  
dapat may minimum at

**[05:46:30.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005495)  
makuha kung ano yung dapat

**[05:46:32.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005496)  
na pangangailangan na tulong

**[05:46:34.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005497)  
sa ating sugar industry workers

**[05:46:36.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005498)  
na kung wala po ang mga manggagawa

**[05:46:38.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005499)  
na ito na siyang

**[05:46:40.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005500)  
bumubuhay sa ating mga tubuhan

**[05:46:42.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005501)  
ay hindi natin maasahan

**[05:46:44.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005502)  
yung pag-unlad din ng ganitong

**[05:46:46.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005503)  
industriya.

**[05:46:52.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005504)  
Madam Chair,

**[05:46:54.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005505)  
distinguished colleague,

**[05:46:54.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005506)  
ang doon sa inyong

**[05:46:56.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005507)  
statement, minimum,

**[05:46:58.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005508)  
kasi yan po ay nakapaloob sa ating

**[05:47:00.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005509)  
batas. But then again, through your

**[05:47:02.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005510)  
representation, once again, pag ito po ay

**[05:47:04.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005511)  
naging na-amended,

**[05:47:06.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005512)  
ito po ay, sabi ko nga po

**[05:47:08.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005513)  
as earlier statement kanina,

**[05:47:10.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005514)  
once it's enacted in TULO,

**[05:47:12.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005515)  
susunod naman ang aming departamento.

**[05:47:15.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005516)  
Ilang panghuli,

**[05:47:16.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005517)  
Madam Speaker, tungkol

**[05:47:18.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005518)  
sa single entry approach.

**[05:47:20.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005519)  
Nais kong malaman kung

**[05:47:22.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005520)  
kapag nakapag-settle ba

**[05:47:26.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005521)  
through SENA,

**[05:47:28.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005522)  
nakakaroon ba ng record ang employer

**[05:47:30.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005523)  
sa DOLE? At sa mga

**[05:47:32.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005524)  
pagkakataon na lawyer

**[05:47:34.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005525)  
ang duly authorized representative

**[05:47:36.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005526)  
ng employer,

**[05:47:38.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005527)  
nakakaroon ba ng mabilis na settlement?

**[05:48:22.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005529)  
Doon sa inyong katanungan sa ating

**[05:48:24.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005530)  
single entry approach.

**[05:48:26.960] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005531)  
I would like to read

**[05:48:28.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005532)  
to you some facts pertaining

**[05:48:30.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005533)  
sa ating settlement

**[05:48:32.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005534)  
rate, which sa

**[05:48:33.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005535)  
Dole Regional Office ay 84.60%

**[05:48:38.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005536)  
at dun sa total sa NLRC

**[05:48:40.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005537)  
is 84.07%.

**[05:48:42.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005538)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[05:48:44.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005539)  
Ang katanungan ko rin ho ay

**[05:48:46.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005540)  
may mga pagkakataon ba na lawyer

**[05:48:48.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005541)  
yung duly authorized representative

**[05:48:50.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005542)  
at pinapayagan ba natin

**[05:48:52.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005543)  
halimbawa na

**[05:48:54.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005544)  
workers representative

**[05:48:55.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005545)  
ang humaharap

**[05:48:58.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005546)  
as duly authorized

**[05:49:00.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005547)  
representative. So, both po

**[05:49:02.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005548)  
lawyer or

**[05:49:04.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005549)  
pwede rin naman na representative mismo

**[05:49:06.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005550)  
ng mga workers. Madam Speaker,

**[05:49:08.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005551)  
this thing is surely, yes,

**[05:49:10.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005552)  
pwede po. Yes.

**[05:49:12.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005553)  
At na-raise ko po ito

**[05:49:15.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005554)  
dahil marami din pong naglapit sa ating

**[05:49:17.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005555)  
representasyon na mahirap

**[05:49:19.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005556)  
din na lawyers yung

**[05:49:21.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005557)  
kaharap ng isang manggagawa sa isang

**[05:49:23.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005558)  
settlement. Hindi po talaga ito

**[05:49:25.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005559)  
nagiging pantay sa maraming pagkakataon

**[05:49:27.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005560)  
at sa ating karanasan

**[05:49:29.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005561)  
ng mga nakakausap nating

**[05:49:31.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005562)  
mga manggagawa. Mas binabarat

**[05:49:32.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005563)  
ang mga manggagawa kapag

**[05:49:35.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005564)  
lawyer ang kaharap at napakarabi pa pong

**[05:49:37.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005565)  
legal jargons at principles

**[05:49:39.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005566)  
ang ibinabato sa manggagawa

**[05:49:41.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005567)  
para lang mapanindigan

**[05:49:43.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005568)  
yung pagbabarat sa kanilang

**[05:49:45.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005569)  
sahod. Ngayon naman po

**[05:49:47.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005570)  
may mga

**[05:49:49.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005571)  
pagkakataon din na

**[05:49:51.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005572)  
pinapalabas ang workers representative.

**[05:49:53.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005573)  
Pwede ba na magkaroon kayo

**[05:49:55.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005574)  
ng mekanismo na hindi ito

**[05:49:56.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005575)  
mangyayari? Kapag may representative

**[05:49:59.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005576)  
po ang worker

**[05:50:01.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005577)  
na nagsastand as their

**[05:50:03.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005578)  
duly authorized representative,

**[05:50:05.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005579)  
dapat matiyak natin

**[05:50:07.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005580)  
na hindi sila mapapalabas

**[05:50:08.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005581)  
kapag nagkakaroon po ng

**[05:50:11.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005582)  
settlement sa ganitong mga kaso.

**[05:50:16.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005583)  
Yes, it's part of the process

**[05:50:18.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005584)  
but Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[05:50:20.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005585)  
sasagutin ko rin po yung

**[05:50:21.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005586)  
una mong binanggit.

**[05:50:25.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005587)  
I don't know but kung naalala po ninyo

**[05:50:26.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005588)  
doon sa ating binanggit sa ating opening statement,

**[05:50:29.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005589)  
isa yan sa ating mga inisiyatibo

**[05:50:31.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005590)  
ng ating bagong sekretary.

**[05:50:33.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005591)  
Tama, intimidated yung ating mga

**[05:50:35.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005592)  
manggagawa pag ito ay abogado ang

**[05:50:36.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005593)  
karap po nila. And binanggit din po

**[05:50:39.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005594)  
natin kanina that ang ating

**[05:50:41.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005595)  
public attorney's office ay loaded

**[05:50:43.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005596)  
na with the existing cases.

**[05:50:45.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005597)  
Ngayon, patukoy naman doon dito sa ating

**[05:50:47.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005598)  
inisiyatib ng ating

**[05:50:48.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005599)  
bagong sekretary, Sekretary Francis Tulitino,

**[05:50:51.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005600)  
kanina po binanggit po natin

**[05:50:52.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005601)  
yung labor attorney's office.

**[05:50:55.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005602)  
Ito po ay through ng kanyang

**[05:50:56.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005603)  
department order na kung saan

**[05:50:58.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005604)  
naghihinga rin po siya ng karagdagan. And I'm sure

**[05:51:01.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005605)  
that is very, very

**[05:51:03.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005606)  
important. One, para ito po

**[05:51:05.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005607)  
ay magkaroon ng free legal assistance

**[05:51:07.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005608)  
ang ating mga

**[05:51:08.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005609)  
manggagawa. So, yan po ay isa sa

**[05:51:11.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005610)  
mga inisiyatibo ng ating

**[05:51:12.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005611)  
departamento together with the

**[05:51:15.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005612)  
ating bagong sekretary,

**[05:51:17.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005613)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:51:21.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005614)  
May karanasan din po ang mga

**[05:51:23.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005615)  
mga manggagawa na sa pagpafal

**[05:51:25.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005616)  
pa lang sa DOLE. Mismong mga

**[05:51:27.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005617)  
employees na daw po yung

**[05:51:30.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005618)  
nagdi-discourage tungkol sa pagpafal

**[05:51:32.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005619)  
dahil wala na daw pag-asa yung kaso.

**[05:51:34.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005620)  
So, sa ganito pong mga cases

**[05:51:36.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005621)  
na naiparating sa atin, binubuo

**[05:51:39.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005622)  
din po namin yung report kasi po

**[05:51:40.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005623)  
sa paninindigan po ng aming

**[05:51:42.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005624)  
representasyon, dapat hindi

**[05:51:44.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005625)  
maging dagdag na burokrasya

**[05:51:46.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005626)  
ang sena at hindi

**[05:51:48.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005627)  
ito dapat maging pamamaraan

**[05:51:50.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005628)  
ng employer para lalong baratin

**[05:51:52.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005629)  
ang mga manggagawa at baka

**[05:51:54.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005630)  
kayang tignan ng DOLE.

**[05:51:56.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005631)  
Pwede po ba kayong mag-commit? I-review

**[05:51:58.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005632)  
natin na kumaari

**[05:52:00.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005633)  
hindi na gawing mandatory

**[05:52:02.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005634)  
ang single entry approach.

**[05:52:10.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005635)  
Ma'am, yung sa ating

**[05:52:12.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005636)  
sinasabi niyo po na

**[05:52:13.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005637)  
first yung sa point niyo na

**[05:52:16.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005638)  
yung mismo employer nagsasabi,

**[05:52:19.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005639)  
siguro po

**[05:52:20.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005640)  
with the statement of the Department of Labor Employment

**[05:52:22.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005641)  
na pwede po tayo magtulong patungo doon.

**[05:52:24.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005642)  
Kaya nga lang yun, sa pangalawang

**[05:52:26.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005643)  
inisiyatibo po niyo, doon sa single entry

**[05:52:28.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005644)  
approach, ito po ay mandatory.

**[05:52:30.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005645)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[05:52:32.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005646)  
Maraming salamat

**[05:52:34.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005647)  
Madam Speaker, dapat natin

**[05:52:35.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005648)  
ma-review, hindi na gawing mandatory

**[05:52:38.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005649)  
at sa representasyon ng

**[05:52:40.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005650)  
Gabriela Women's Party, sinusuportahan namin

**[05:52:42.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005651)  
mas mataas na pondo para sa

**[05:52:44.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005652)  
pag-hire ng labor inspectors

**[05:52:46.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005653)  
hindi lang po sa hiring, sa training,

**[05:52:48.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005654)  
sa capacity building at pagtitiyak ng

**[05:52:50.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005655)  
kanilang independence. Maraming salamat

**[05:52:52.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005656)  
Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

**[05:52:53.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-005657)  
Distinguished sponsor.

**[05:52:54.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005658)  
Maraming salamat. Distinguished colleague.

**[05:52:56.440] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005659)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:53:00.020] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005660)  
Madam Speaker, I move that

**[05:53:02.140] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005661)  
we recognize the Honorable Representative

**[05:53:04.300] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005662)  
Perci Cendaña

**[05:53:06.300] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005663)  
of Akbayan Party-list

**[05:53:08.220] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005664)  
to interpolate on the proposed

**[05:53:10.300] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005665)  
Madam Speaker, I withdraw my manifestation.

**[05:53:17.500] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005666)  
I move that

**[05:53:18.420] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005667)  
we recognize Representative

**[05:53:20.440] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005668)  
Renee Louise Co of

**[05:53:22.300] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005669)  
Kabataan Party-list to interpellate

**[05:53:24.500] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-005670)  
on the proposed budget of the DOLE.

**[05:53:27.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005671)  
Representative Renee Louise Co

**[05:53:28.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005672)  
of Kabataan Party-list is hereby recognized

**[05:53:30.980] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005673)  
to interpellate.

**[05:53:32.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005674)  
Thank you Madam Speaker and good morning

**[05:53:35.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005675)  
to our distinguished sponsor

**[05:53:37.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005676)  
and to the DOLE.

**[05:53:40.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005677)  
My first

**[05:53:41.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005678)  
line of questioning, if the gentleman

**[05:53:43.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005679)  
would be amenable to answer

**[05:53:45.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005680)  
certain questions

**[05:53:47.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005681)  
regarding the budget of

**[05:53:49.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005682)  
the Department of Labor and Employment.

**[05:53:51.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005683)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[05:53:53.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005684)  
gladly, Madam.

**[05:53:53.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005685)  
Thank you.

**[05:53:54.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005686)  
Thank you Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:53:56.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005687)  
The first line of questioning would be in relation

**[05:53:58.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005688)  
to actually the

**[05:54:00.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005689)  
report submitted

**[05:54:02.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005690)  
by DOLE which

**[05:54:04.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005691)  
this representation appreciates

**[05:54:06.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005692)  
in relation to our questioning

**[05:54:08.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005693)  
of the Department

**[05:54:09.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005694)  
in the budget briefing held

**[05:54:12.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005695)  
a few weeks ago.

**[05:54:14.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005696)  
And dito po, tinanong natin

**[05:54:16.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005697)  
kung ano po yung

**[05:54:18.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005698)  
compliance of establishments

**[05:54:20.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005699)  
within ecozones

**[05:54:22.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005700)  
ng mga

**[05:54:24.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005701)  
occupational

**[05:54:26.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005702)  
safety and

**[05:54:28.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005703)  
health regulations

**[05:54:30.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005704)  
na may noted

**[05:54:33.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005705)  
na improvement

**[05:54:34.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005706)  
of compliance rates

**[05:54:37.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005707)  
pero ninonote po natin

**[05:54:39.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005708)  
dito na marami pa rin

**[05:54:41.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005709)  
pong mga regyon ay may below

**[05:54:43.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005710)  
100% compliance.

**[05:54:45.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005711)  
Meaning po sa inspections

**[05:54:47.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005712)  
na ginagawa ng DOLE

**[05:54:48.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005713)  
kung meron pong

**[05:54:50.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005714)  
labor standard violations

**[05:54:52.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005715)  
or

**[05:54:54.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005716)  
safety and health hazard violations

**[05:54:56.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005717)  
may mga regyon

**[05:54:59.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005718)  
na hindi po 100% yung compliance.

**[05:55:03.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005719)  
May I

**[05:55:03.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005720)  
clarify Madam Speaker, good sponsor

**[05:55:06.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005721)  
may minimum threshold bang

**[05:55:08.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005722)  
pinaghahawakan ang DOLE regarding

**[05:55:10.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005723)  
dito? Ano po ang

**[05:55:12.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005724)  
pinapataw na parusa

**[05:55:14.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005725)  
sa mga patuloy na non-compliant

**[05:55:16.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005726)  
kung meron man?

**[05:55:17.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005727)  
Thank you.

**[05:55:37.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005728)  
Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:55:38.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005729)  
One, for the first question would be ito kung may threshold.

**[05:55:41.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005730)  
Wala po, kailangan po, dapat sana

**[05:55:44.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005731)  
pertaining sa OSHA ay 100%.

**[05:55:46.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005732)  
Pangalawa, dun sa ating penalties here thereafter

**[05:55:52.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005733)  
dun sa may mga existing rules and regulations naman po tayo,

**[05:55:54.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005734)  
dun po sa mga penalties, they could go up to as much as penalties na 100,000 pesos, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[05:56:01.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005735)  
May records po ba tayo na sunod-sunod na taon ay hindi compliant itong mga establishments within ecozones?

**[05:56:09.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005736)  
May number po ba tayo?

**[05:56:11.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005737)  
May mga pangalan po ba tayo ng mga establishments na ganito?

**[05:56:15.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005738)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung doon sa tanong po na kung meron kaming

**[05:56:24.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005740)  
datos patungo na kung may

**[05:56:26.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005741)  
violations na sunod-sunod na taon.

**[05:56:28.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005742)  
Unfortunately, ma'am, we will gather

**[05:56:30.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005743)  
that data, but if you gladly

**[05:56:31.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005744)  
allow us, as soon as possible, we will

**[05:56:34.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005745)  
submit to the

**[05:56:35.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005746)  
our distinguished colleague para po ito

**[05:56:38.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005747)  
ay matugunan at makita po

**[05:56:40.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005748)  
ninyo ng personal.

**[05:56:41.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005749)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, intay na lang po natin

**[05:56:43.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005750)  
yung report na yun. Sana po ay maisumite

**[05:56:45.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005751)  
ng DOLE sa

**[05:56:48.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005752)  
representasyon na ito. Sana po bago

**[05:56:50.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005753)  
matapos ang linggo. Dalala ko

**[05:56:52.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005754)  
din po, nung nakaraang taon,

**[05:56:54.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005755)  
nag-furnish din ng copy

**[05:56:56.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005756)  
yung DOLE ng

**[05:56:58.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005757)  
similar

**[05:56:59.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005758)  
report ng sino pong

**[05:57:02.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005759)  
nakaka-record

**[05:57:04.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005760)  
ng mga OSHS

**[05:57:05.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005761)  
violations. So, nakaka-dismaya

**[05:57:08.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005762)  
na may meron pa rin.

**[05:57:10.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005763)  
Alam naman natin hindi

**[05:57:12.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005764)  
perfecto, pero nonetheless,

**[05:57:14.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005765)  
ay kung meron pong

**[05:57:16.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005766)  
mga sunod-sunod

**[05:57:18.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005767)  
na violators, dapat po

**[05:57:20.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005768)  
ay ma-actionan po yun

**[05:57:21.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005769)  
ng DOLE. Sige, Madam Speaker,

**[05:57:24.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005770)  
good sponsor, babalikan ko lang

**[05:57:26.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005771)  
po yung mga iilang tanong ko noong

**[05:57:28.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005772)  
budget briefing

**[05:57:30.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005773)  
na kung saan sinabi po

**[05:57:32.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005774)  
ng DOLE na wala po

**[05:57:34.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005775)  
silang purview sa

**[05:57:36.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005776)  
pagtukoy o kaya

**[05:57:38.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005777)  
pagdikta ng mga incentives

**[05:57:40.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005778)  
na natatanggap ng locators

**[05:57:42.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005779)  
or establishments

**[05:57:43.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005780)  
na nasa loob ng mga

**[05:57:46.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005781)  
economic zones. Ang ayon

**[05:57:48.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005782)  
po dito sa report na isinumite

**[05:57:50.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005783)  
ng DOLE, ito po ay

**[05:57:52.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005784)  
nasa jurisdiction,

**[05:57:54.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005785)  
of the respective investment promotion

**[05:57:56.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005786)  
agencies, gaya ng PEZA,

**[05:57:59.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005787)  
in coordination with

**[05:58:00.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005788)  
Fiscal Incentives Review Board

**[05:58:02.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005789)  
or ng Bureau of Internal Revenue

**[05:58:04.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005790)  
when applicable.

**[05:58:06.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005791)  
Siguro, gusto ko lang pong

**[05:58:08.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005792)  
i-clarify, ano po ba yung

**[05:58:10.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005793)  
basis ng ganitong set-up

**[05:58:12.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005794)  
kung meron man?

**[05:58:24.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005795)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[05:58:28.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005796)  
before I answer your question,

**[05:58:30.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005797)  
dun po sa unang hinihingi niyo mga datos,

**[05:58:32.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005798)  
we commit,

**[05:58:33.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005799)  
Huwebes na po pala ngayon, I was supposed to say Thursday,

**[05:58:36.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005800)  
we will give it within the week, so that's

**[05:58:38.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005801)  
Friday. To the

**[05:58:40.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005802)  
answer, kasi nga po, it's a

**[05:58:42.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005803)  
special law po yun eh, so

**[05:58:44.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005804)  
ang DOLE, ang role lang po ng DOLE is limited to that.

**[05:58:47.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005805)  
So yung pag, yung kanyang

**[05:58:48.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005806)  
nabanggit niyo po kanina,

**[05:58:50.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005807)  
yung mga ahensyang yun lamang

**[05:58:52.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005808)  
may tamang jurisdiction,

**[05:58:54.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005809)  
ito mo po dito, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[05:58:57.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005810)  
Ninonote po kasi natin, Madam

**[05:58:58.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005811)  
Speaker, good sponsor, na

**[05:59:00.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005812)  
the Omnibus Investments

**[05:59:02.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005813)  
Code of 1987

**[05:59:04.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005814)  
nakalaan dito

**[05:59:06.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005815)  
that the Board of Investments can

**[05:59:08.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005816)  
for violations of

**[05:59:12.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005817)  
the laws

**[05:59:14.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005818)  
for the protection of labor

**[05:59:16.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005819)  
ay maaaring magkansela

**[05:59:18.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005820)  
ng mga incentives

**[05:59:20.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005821)  
na ini-enjoy ng mga enterprises.

**[05:59:23.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005822)  
At the same time,

**[05:59:24.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005823)  
na mandato po ng

**[05:59:26.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005824)  
Department of Labor and Employment, according

**[05:59:28.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005825)  
to not only its website,

**[05:59:30.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005826)  
pero in laws

**[05:59:32.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005827)  
na it

**[05:59:34.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005828)  
promotes gainful employment opportunities

**[05:59:36.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005829)  
and human resource development,

**[05:59:38.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005830)  
protect and promote workers' rights

**[05:59:40.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005831)  
and welfare, and promote and

**[05:59:42.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005832)  
maintain industrial peace.

**[05:59:44.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005833)  
So, wala po bang

**[05:59:46.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005834)  
role yung DOLE sa

**[05:59:48.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005835)  
pag-ensure

**[05:59:50.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005836)  
na that the Board of Investments

**[05:59:52.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005837)  
gets the

**[05:59:54.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005838)  
appropriate information

**[05:59:55.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005839)  
to say na kung may

**[05:59:58.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005840)  
violation of

**[05:59:59.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005841)  
the laws.

**[06:00:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005842)  
for the protection of labor, ay maaari nilang i-cancel yung mga incentives ng specific locators or ng establishments

**[06:00:08.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005843)  
dahil ito po yung nakalagay sa Omnibus Investments Code.

**[06:00:13.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005844)  
Ano pong role ng DOLE sa pag-implementa ng Board of Investments ng ganitong klaseng kapangyarihan nila?

**[06:00:21.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005845)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Tama po yung binanggit po ninyo.

**[06:00:24.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005846)  
At I would like to quote sa unang binanggit po ninyo.

**[06:00:28.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005847)  
That ang role po ng Departamento ay ipakita sa ating mga ibang kasama na ahensya na ito po ang findings ng ating Departamento.

**[06:00:38.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005848)  
So bari, yung sinasabi po nyo, kung anong role pertaining doon sa kung pwedeng i-cancela,

**[06:00:43.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005849)  
ay hindi na po namin sakop ang kapangyarihan ito sapagkat kami po, based on the data that we have,

**[06:00:49.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005850)  
and I think we have furnished our distinguished colleague na kumpleto naman po yung aming inspections pertaining to that

**[06:00:57.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005851)  
but to the matter of...

**[06:00:58.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005852)  
So na kami po ay magkakancela, we don't have that jurisdiction, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[06:01:06.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005853)  
And I'd like to add, na sisiguraduhin ko po sa inyo, na tayo po ay ginagampanan natin yung ating mga inspections sa lahat ng ating mga ecozones during that time.

**[06:01:15.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005854)  
So to clarify, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano po yung role ng DOLE vis-a-vis yung Board of Investments

**[06:01:26.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005855)  
or yung Fiscal Incentives Review Board?

**[06:01:28.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005856)  
Kung may findings sila na may violation sa loss on protecting labor na nangyari?

**[06:01:36.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005857)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, sabi ko nga po, pag-check ng DOLE, ang role ng DOLE, if they're in compliance,

**[06:01:43.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005858)  
kung may violations, obligadong ilalagay din po natin yan.

**[06:01:46.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005859)  
And we have the records, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, if needed and necessary.

**[06:01:51.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005860)  
Does the DOLE submit these findings of violations to the Board of Investments?

**[06:01:58.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005861)  
How often do they submit it? How often do they meet, etc.?

**[06:02:02.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005862)  
Paano po nila nakakommunicate yung gano'ng klaseng violations?

**[06:02:07.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005863)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, we can submit to a report.

**[06:02:10.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005864)  
But gusto ko lang po dagdagan, but in terms of pag-OSH law na po, ito po ay pwedeng patawan na agad ng Departamento.

**[06:02:19.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005865)  
Sa violation ng OSH, for example.

**[06:02:23.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005866)  
Sa OSH po.

**[06:02:23.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005867)  
Gusto natin ma-insure na may...

**[06:02:28.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005868)  
...accountability sa ibang ahensya.

**[06:02:31.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005869)  
Lalo na po, nasa mandato naman po ng ahensya na yun na may accountability kung may violation sa protection,

**[06:02:38.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005870)  
loss of protection of labor, meron po ba itong report na isinusumite, for example,

**[06:02:45.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005871)  
sa mga dapat pong may action on incentives, for example,

**[06:02:50.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005872)  
para hindi lang po titigil tayo sa accountability on OSH law.

**[06:02:58.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005873)  
And other forms of accountability when applicable.

**[06:03:01.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005874)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, yes, sabi ko nga po, ginagawa ng ating Departamento yung role po natin na we furnish everybody a copy.

**[06:03:11.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005875)  
And for the appreciation of our distinguished colleague, pwede naman po tayong mag-submit sa inyong tanggapan ng lahat ng aming mga ginawang patungkol po dito.

**[06:03:21.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005876)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kung maisusumite po dito sa representasyon na ito,

**[06:03:28.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005877)  
kopya ng report, kung paano po tinitiyak ng DOLE na yung modes of accountability niya,

**[06:03:38.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005878)  
it does not stop at what it can do as the extent of powers it has.

**[06:03:45.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005879)  
Pero pagbibigay ng impormasyon and coordination with other agencies na maaaring magbigay yung DOLE ng impormasyon sa kanila,

**[06:03:56.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005880)  
at madetalye po sana.

**[06:03:58.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005881)  
Sa isang report.

**[06:03:59.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005882)  
Kasi the DOLE is in the best opportunity, in the best position na magbigay ng impormasyon na ito.

**[06:04:08.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005883)  
Halos wala naman na pong ibang makakapagbigay nito.

**[06:04:10.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005884)  
At kung kaya pong aktuhan ng Board of Investments ayon po sa impormasyon ng DOLE,

**[06:04:19.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005885)  
dapat lang po, we'd like not to see a scenario where there are locators, establishments that enjoy incentives

**[06:04:28.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005886)  
but are repeated violators of laws protecting labor.

**[06:04:35.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005887)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, maaasahan po ba natin yung report na ito?

**[06:04:39.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005888)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes. That's a definite yes.

**[06:04:43.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005889)  
And if our Distinguished Colleague, can I make a plea?

**[06:04:51.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005890)  
Kanina po, binanggit ko po na isasubmit po namin ng biyernes.

**[06:04:54.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005891)  
Pagtingin ko po doon sa ating monitor ay Huwebes na po pala ngayon.

**[06:04:58.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005892)  
If it would be allowable, pagpinayagan po tayo ng ating Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:05:03.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005893)  
kasi biyernes na po ay technically bukas na po, kung papayagan niyo po kami,

**[06:05:07.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005894)  
isasubmit po namin ang lahat ng dokumentong hiningi po ninyo by Monday of next week

**[06:05:12.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005895)  
if it's papayagan po ng ating Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker.

**[06:05:16.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005896)  
Yes po, okay naman po yung Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:05:18.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005897)  
Maraming salamat po, Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:05:20.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005898)  
My last line of questioning, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is in relation po sa tinanong din po natin sa TESDA,

**[06:05:28.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005899)  
Project UNLAD, kung saan ito ay partnership ng DICT sa pag-ensure na yung AI upskilling

**[06:05:38.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005900)  
ay hindi lang po ito nagagawa ng pro forma,

**[06:05:44.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005901)  
pero substantively nakakapagpataas ng kalidad ng ating mga BPO workers

**[06:05:52.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005902)  
and other such workers na nangailangan ng ganitong skillset.

**[06:05:58.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005903)  
Nakita po natin sa report that around 18,500 na manggagawa

**[06:06:05.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005904)  
ang nakakatanggap ng upskilling under Project UNLAD.

**[06:06:09.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005905)  
Pero ang tanong po natin sa bantanang layoffs sa gitna ng paggamit ng AI sa mga BPO companies,

**[06:06:16.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005906)  
sapat ba na around that number ang nakakatanggap ng upskilling under Project UNLAD

**[06:06:21.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005907)  
upang masiguro ang kanilang tuloy-tuloy na trabaho?

**[06:06:24.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005908)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:06:26.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005909)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:06:28.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005910)  
before I directly answer your question, let me read first the status of the AI upskilling.

**[06:06:35.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005911)  
One, TESDA is calling up its AI skills programs in line with the National AI Upskilling Roadmap

**[06:06:41.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005912)  
through different delivery modalities such as institution-based delivery,

**[06:06:46.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005913)  
enterprise-based training and online courses.

**[06:06:49.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005914)  
TESDA has already allocated 53,442 scholarship slots for AI and digital-related skills

**[06:06:56.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005915)  
as of August 20, 2026.

**[06:06:58.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005916)  
The context would be that TESDA recognizes the need to adopt our workforce with AI.

**[06:07:06.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005917)  
Kailangan, kailangan na po yan.

**[06:07:08.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005918)  
Estimates vary but different analysis place the number of jobs that will be affected by AI

**[06:07:12.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005919)  
around 25 to 35 percent of jobs.

**[06:07:16.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005920)  
That's roughly around 12 million.

**[06:07:18.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005921)  
And the National AI Upskilling Roadmap segmentizes the labor force into three clusters

**[06:07:23.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005922)  
that represent three A's in AI.

**[06:07:26.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005923)  
One is AI awareness, AI adoption,

**[06:07:28.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005924)  
and AI advancement.

**[06:07:30.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005925)  
This entails different courses from foundational competencies and AI literacy

**[06:07:36.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005926)  
to more specialized and advanced courses that will equip Filipinos with skills

**[06:07:40.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005927)  
not only to consume but also to build AI systems.

**[06:07:45.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005928)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:07:47.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005929)  
So Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:07:50.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005930)  
ano po yung sagot natin dun sa tanong nasapat po ba ang may 18,

**[06:07:55.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005931)  
or rather ang namention may some 50,000?

**[06:07:57.820] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005932)  
53,000.

**[06:07:58.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005933)  
53,442.

**[06:08:00.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005934)  
Madam, doon sa pagbanggit ko nga po kanina,

**[06:08:03.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005935)  
siguro I forgot to mention TESDA.

**[06:08:06.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005936)  
That's the reason na ang unchallenged po sa atin ngayon,

**[06:08:09.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005937)  
ang ating hinihingi ng ating ekonomiya.

**[06:08:12.180] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005938)  
Isang role ng DOLE and TESDA,

**[06:08:13.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005939)  
TESDA to be specific,

**[06:08:16.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005940)  
na i-reskill, i-upskill,

**[06:08:19.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005941)  
and kung sa tanong mo kung sapat na yung binanggit mong 18,000,

**[06:08:24.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005942)  
or in fact, based sa 53,442,

**[06:08:27.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005943)  
sa official stance po ng TESDA,

**[06:08:30.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005944)  
ito po ay nabawasan nga yung pondo for 2027,

**[06:08:33.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005945)  
compared to the GAA of 2026.

**[06:08:37.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005946)  
So ang tamang sagot po dyan ay kulang pa po yung ating mga programa,

**[06:08:43.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005947)  
and sa ating opening statement po kanina,

**[06:08:46.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005948)  
ay binanggit po natin na kung maaari itong madagdagan,

**[06:08:49.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005949)  
ay welcome na welcome po yan sa aming departamento.

**[06:08:53.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005950)  
As a last question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:08:57.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005951)  
or for now,

**[06:08:59.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005952)  
hinihingi po ng kopya sana ang representasyon na ito ng Roadmap,

**[06:09:02.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005953)  
na I assume na medyo fresh or hot off the press pa siya,

**[06:09:07.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005954)  
pero other than that,

**[06:09:09.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005955)  
ano po ba yung mga indicators natin na successful yung upskilling?

**[06:09:13.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005956)  
Yung ilan pong siguro inaasahan natin,

**[06:09:16.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005957)  
yung promotion sa trabaho,

**[06:09:18.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005958)  
increased salary,

**[06:09:20.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005959)  
siguro mas mabilis na turnout, etc.

**[06:09:24.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005960)  
Ano po ba ang mga indicators na ito?

**[06:09:27.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005961)  
Magandang tanong, to justify na kami po ay ang TESDA po ay humihingi po ng karagdagang budget for that.

**[06:09:34.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005962)  
One, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[06:09:36.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005963)  
I'd like to state for the record,

**[06:09:39.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005964)  
na lahat po nang dumaan sa tech-voc path,

**[06:09:43.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005965)  
ay based on the results na ginagawa po natin,

**[06:09:47.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005966)  
ay meron pong 83.4% employability.

**[06:09:50.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005967)  
Ibig sabihin, pag ikaw po ay dumaan sa skills training sa TESDA,

**[06:09:55.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005968)  
ay mataas, o napakataas,

**[06:09:57.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005969)  
ng chance for employability.

**[06:09:59.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005970)  
And also, it goes to show sa ating certification program,

**[06:10:03.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005971)  
na if it is applicable to or acceptable to the distinguished colleague,

**[06:10:10.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005972)  
ay marami po na tayo nagawa dyan,

**[06:10:12.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005973)  
and we can definitely furnish you

**[06:10:14.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005974)  
of all that necessary reports pertaining to certification,

**[06:10:17.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005975)  
and what I've said, the 83.4% employability

**[06:10:20.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005976)  
ng mga dumadaan sa tech-voc path po natin sa ating bansang Pilipinas.

**[06:10:24.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005977)  
Hintayin po natin yung ulat na yun.

**[06:10:26.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005978)  
Siguro sana po sa lunes ay maisabay siya doon sa submissions as well ng DOLE.

**[06:10:33.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005979)  
Ang huli na lang po nating manifestation ay up until now,

**[06:10:37.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005980)  
mataas ang anxiety ng mga tao tungkol sa layoffs na dulot ng AI.

**[06:10:43.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005981)  
At kung we ride the trend of upskilling,

**[06:10:47.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005982)  
ang naishare po so far ay hindi rin po nakikita sa indicators na may job security dito.

**[06:10:55.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005983)  
So, nonetheless, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:10:58.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005984)  
we'd like to register na ito yung anxiety at ito yung hirap na pinakaharap ng ating mga BPO workers.

**[06:11:05.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005985)  
At beyond upskilling, no, gusto natin tuloy-tuloy na may sagot doon sa tanong na paano ba i-ensure

**[06:11:11.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005986)  
na may disenteng trabaho, na may nakabubuhay na sahod ang mga manggagawang Pilipino.

**[06:11:16.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005987)  
Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, maraming salamat po. Thank you, good sponsor.

**[06:11:20.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005988)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Thank you, distinguished colleague.

**[06:11:23.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-005989)  
And yes, we will submit on Monday together with the DOLE and TESDA reports, Distinguished Colleague. Maraming salamat po.

**[06:11:30.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005990)  
Majority Leader?

**[06:11:32.220] Floor Leader** (asr-005991)  
Madam Speaker, I'd like to acknowledge our last interpellator of the day,

**[06:11:37.220] Floor Leader** (asr-005992)  
the Honorable Perci Cendaña from the Akbayan Party-list.

**[06:11:41.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-005993)  
Representative Perci Cendaña of Akbayan Party-list is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[06:11:46.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005994)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Magandang umaga po. Ginoong sponsor at sa buong DOLE family.

**[06:11:52.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005995)  
At siyempre kasama dyan, special mention, ang paborito nating TESDA.

**[06:11:57.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005996)  
At ngayon po, pinag-uusapan natin ang budget ng Department of Labor and Employment.

**[06:12:04.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005997)  
At pangunahin dito yung usapin ng workers' rights and welfare.

**[06:12:08.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005998)  
But the irony is not lost on me. Marami po mga manggagawa tayo dito sa loob ng Kongreso, sa ating mga opisina, at mismo po sa DOLE, ang Puyat na ngayong araw na ito.

**[06:12:21.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-005999)  
And while naniniwala tayo na dapat walang tulugan para sa transparency and accountability,

**[06:12:27.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006000)  
sa dulo po dapat huwag din nating pabayaan ang kapakanan ng ating mga manggagawa.

**[06:12:32.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006001)  
Let me begin with a humble appeal to the leadership of the House of Representatives.

**[06:12:37.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006002)  
Natiyakin po natin yung kapakanan, kalusugan ng ating mga manggagawa, ang kanilang well-being.

**[06:12:43.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006003)  
Hindi po talaga makatarungan ang ganitong uri ng diskurso sa ganitong alangan ng oras na ng madaling araw.

**[06:12:51.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006004)  
And the irony of it all, we're talking about workers' rights and welfare now.

**[06:12:56.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006005)  
Balik lang po ako, Madam Speaker, ginaong sponsor doon sa kaninang exchange between the good sponsor and Representative Elly tungkol po sa nangyaring September 10 NWPC meeting.

**[06:13:11.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006006)  
Allegedly, may nangyaring NWPC meeting noong September 10. At nabanggit din po kanina na isang dahilan kaya po lumipat ng kwarto ay dahil daw po mayroong disruption.

**[06:13:21.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006007)  
Can the good sponsor elaborate further on this claim about disruptions or disruptors?

**[06:13:29.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006008)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, well, the process sa wage setting, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, there's a reason na bakit po may proseso.

**[06:13:42.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006009)  
One, nabanggit po natin leading to the September 10, was that there was already a public hearing.

**[06:13:51.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006010)  
Or consultation, but technically the right word is public hearing. September 2 po yan.

**[06:13:55.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006011)  
Na marami po yung, we have pictures and videos na lahat naman po doon ay imbitado.

**[06:14:00.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006012)  
Pertaining doon po sa sinasabing September 10, tandaan po ninyo, yung ito na po ay nagpapatukoy doon sa Wage Order No. 28 na dapat ay affirmation.

**[06:14:14.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006013)  
And for the record, sabi ko nga po kanina, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the reason of being wage na ito po ay ating nabanggit.

**[06:14:21.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006014)  
Sapagkat, yung mga miyembro dapat ng ating na kung saan na, nasa affirmation doon sa ating wage order, ay dapat nandun na po.

**[06:14:30.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006015)  
Nandun din yun sa binanggit ko na yung labor sector. Unfortunately, yung isa pong miyembro ay wala po.

**[06:14:37.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006016)  
And we have the minutes to prove so, na yun lamang po dapat talaga yung mga naroon.

**[06:14:43.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006017)  
So in short, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[06:14:47.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006018)  
yung board po mismo yun nandun. And siguro, you just don't take my word for it.

**[06:14:55.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006019)  
Kanina nga po, I've asked permission from the good secretariat, tandaan po natin yung

**[06:15:00.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006020)  
yung dapat yung pag nagdi-desisyon na

**[06:15:02.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006021)  
o pag mag-a-affirm na ang NWPC,

**[06:15:06.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006022)  
it is not mandated na ibigay yung minutes of the said meeting.

**[06:15:11.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006023)  
Pero kami po, sabi ko nga po, on the record,

**[06:15:14.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006024)  
kasi ganun po kami kakumpiyansa,

**[06:15:16.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006025)  
is because we are willing to do so.

**[06:15:18.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006026)  
Yan po ay may para at least to appease everybody.

**[06:15:21.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006027)  
At the same time, para ipakita

**[06:15:23.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006028)  
na kami ang Department of Labor and Employment

**[06:15:26.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006029)  
pertaining to that September 10 meeting

**[06:15:28.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006030)  
sa affirmation ng Wage Order 28

**[06:15:30.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006031)  
ay walang tinatago at the same time

**[06:15:32.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006032)  
para sinigurado rin po natin

**[06:15:34.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006033)  
na yung Wage Order No. 28

**[06:15:35.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006034)  
ay ma-affirm natin,

**[06:15:38.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006035)  
ma-publish September 11

**[06:15:40.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006036)  
and hopefully ma-implement

**[06:15:43.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006037)  
o maging ganap na wage order

**[06:15:46.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006038)  
to be implemented on September 26 of this year.

**[06:15:49.340] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006039)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:15:51.580] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006040)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:15:54.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006041)  
I beg your indulgence, kailangan ko pong ulitin yung tanong.

**[06:15:57.480] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006042)  
Ano po o sino yung disruptors

**[06:16:00.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006043)  
o ano po yung disruption na nabanggit kanina?

**[06:16:03.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006044)  
The reason as to why the meeting was transferred

**[06:16:05.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006045)  
from the original venue to another venue?

**[06:16:11.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006046)  
Well,

**[06:16:15.120] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006047)  
let it, ilalagay ko po sa konteksto.

**[06:16:18.800] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006048)  
Binanggit ko po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:16:21.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006049)  
na yung ating affirmation ay yung wage setting na nga po.

**[06:16:26.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006050)  
Nandun na po.

**[06:16:27.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006051)  
Nandun na po dapat yung ating mga dapat na nandoon.

**[06:16:32.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006052)  
Kaya nga lang po, may mga pumasok na

**[06:16:34.220] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006053)  
are not supposed to be there

**[06:16:36.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006054)  
kasi yun na nga po yung affirmation ng Wage No. 28.

**[06:16:40.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006055)  
Tapos na po yung public hearing eh.

**[06:16:42.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006056)  
There's a difference, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:16:44.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006057)  
Now, I have it on

**[06:16:47.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006058)  
there's labor leaders na mga pumasok

**[06:16:53.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006059)  
na hindi naman po dapat because

**[06:16:55.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006060)  
sabi ko nga,

**[06:16:56.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006061)  
ito,

**[06:16:57.480] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006062)  
it was supposed to be the decision or affirmation

**[06:16:59.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006063)  
of the NWPC already.

**[06:17:02.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006064)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:17:04.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006065)  
Go ahead, sorry.

**[06:17:06.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006066)  
I'm so sorry, Mr. Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:17:09.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006067)  
Just to reiterate, Madam Speaker,

**[06:17:11.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006068)  
good sponsor,

**[06:17:12.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006069)  
hindi po disruptors

**[06:17:13.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006070)  
o hindi disruption

**[06:17:14.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006071)  
ang ating pong pag-assert

**[06:17:16.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006072)  
na mga leader manggagawa

**[06:17:18.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006073)  
o organisadong mga union

**[06:17:19.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006074)  
ng karapatan po nila

**[06:17:21.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006075)  
na malaman ang katotohanan

**[06:17:22.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006076)  
at magpahayag po

**[06:17:23.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006077)  
ng kanilang posisyon

**[06:17:24.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006078)  
sa napakalagang issue ng sahod.

**[06:17:26.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006079)  
Lalo na po sa sahod

**[06:17:28.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006080)  
na kailangan-kailangan dagdagan sa ngayon.

**[06:17:30.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006081)  
But let me move on to another topic.

**[06:17:32.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006082)  
Just like to underscore

**[06:17:33.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006083)  
that the labor movement

**[06:17:35.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006084)  
or labor leaders

**[06:17:36.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006085)  
are not disruptors.

**[06:17:39.480] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006086)  
Pag-usapan po natin yung enforcement

**[06:17:41.340] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006087)  
ng Department Order 156.

**[06:17:44.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006088)  
Ito po ay concern na gusto i-raise

**[06:17:45.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006089)  
ng mga kasama natin

**[06:17:46.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006090)  
mula sa commercial fishing industry.

**[06:17:49.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006091)  
Sabi po ng DOLE,

**[06:17:50.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006092)  
6,048 workers

**[06:17:52.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006093)  
ang covered ng enforcement

**[06:17:53.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006094)  
ng DO 156

**[06:17:55.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006095)  
noong June 2026.

**[06:17:56.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006096)  
Gaano na po karaming

**[06:17:59.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006097)  
individual fishers

**[06:18:00.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006098)  
ang na-verify natin

**[06:18:01.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006099)  
na nakakakuha na sa ngayon

**[06:18:03.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006100)  
ng mandated minimum wage?

**[06:18:16.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006101)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:18:18.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006102)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:18:20.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006103)  
based dito po sa aming datos

**[06:18:21.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006104)  
sa June 2026,

**[06:18:24.040] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006105)  
workers covered,

**[06:18:26.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006106)  
6,048.

**[06:18:28.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006107)  
6,048 po.

**[06:18:31.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006108)  
Saan po galing itong

**[06:18:32.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006109)  
98.91 compliance rate

**[06:18:34.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006110)  
ng DOLE na ito?

**[06:18:54.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006111)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:18:55.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006112)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:18:56.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006113)  
are you referring to the

**[06:18:56.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006114)  
same compliance rate,

**[06:19:00.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006115)  
98.1% sa OSH?

**[06:19:02.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006116)  
This was mentioned to us

**[06:19:04.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006117)  
in a letter

**[06:19:05.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006118)  
from DOLE

**[06:19:08.240] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006119)  
as a response to our query

**[06:19:09.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006120)  
regarding the implementation

**[06:19:11.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006121)  
of DO 156.

**[06:19:14.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006122)  
Do 156.

**[06:19:18.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006123)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:19:25.720] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006124)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:19:26.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006125)  
ito nga po din sa ating

**[06:19:28.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006126)  
pertaining sa minimum wage,

**[06:19:29.560] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006127)  
98.91%.

**[06:19:31.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006128)  
So, gano'n na po karami pa

**[06:19:34.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006129)  
ang biktima pa rin

**[06:19:35.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006130)  
ng traditional sharing scheme

**[06:19:36.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006131)  
of payment?

**[06:19:50.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006132)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:19:51.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006133)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:19:52.020] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006134)  
ang suma total po

**[06:19:53.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006135)  
is less than 2%.

**[06:19:54.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006136)  
Nasaan po itong mga biktimang

**[06:19:56.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006137)  
ito noong traditional

**[06:19:57.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006138)  
sharing scheme?

**[06:20:03.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006139)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:20:04.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006140)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:20:06.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006141)  
if it's amenable to you,

**[06:20:08.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006142)  
we can furnish the,

**[06:20:10.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006143)  
we'll just compile the cases

**[06:20:11.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006144)  
sa Region 12 at the same time.

**[06:20:13.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006145)  
Give the Distinguished Colleague

**[06:20:15.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006146)  
yung kumpletong datos po.

**[06:20:17.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006147)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:20:18.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006148)  
Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:20:19.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006149)  
Sige po,

**[06:20:19.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006150)  
hintayin po natin yan

**[06:20:20.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006151)  
kasi nakikita po natin

**[06:20:22.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006152)  
sa kabila po

**[06:20:23.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006153)  
ng implementation

**[06:20:24.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006154)  
ng DO 156,

**[06:20:25.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006155)  
mayroon pa rin po

**[06:20:26.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006156)  
tayong mga manggagawa

**[06:20:27.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006157)  
sa commercial fishing

**[06:20:29.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006158)  
vessels

**[06:20:30.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006159)  
sa industriya pong ito

**[06:20:32.240] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006160)  
ang nakakaranas

**[06:20:33.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006161)  
ng violation pa rin

**[06:20:34.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006162)  
ng kanilang karapatan

**[06:20:35.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006163)  
para po sa minimum wage.

**[06:20:37.340] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006164)  
So, we will wait

**[06:20:38.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006165)  
for the report

**[06:20:40.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006166)  
of the Department of Labor

**[06:20:42.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006167)  
through the good

**[06:20:42.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006168)  
sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[06:20:44.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006169)  
Let me move on

**[06:20:45.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006170)  
to another issue.

**[06:20:47.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006171)  
And this is

**[06:20:47.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006172)  
ILO Convention No. 81.

**[06:20:49.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006173)  
Noong November po,

**[06:20:50.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006174)  
noong isang taon,

**[06:20:51.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006175)  
ipinatupad na ng Pilipinas.

**[06:20:53.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006176)  
At naglalayon po ito

**[06:20:54.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006177)  
na magtakda

**[06:20:55.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006178)  
ng standards

**[06:20:56.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006180)  
para sa labor

**[06:20:56.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006181)  
inspection.

**[06:20:59.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006182)  
Mismo na pong

**[06:20:59.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006183)  
labor sekretary natin

**[06:21:00.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006184)  
na nagsabi na

**[06:21:01.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006185)  
447

**[06:21:02.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006186)  
out of the

**[06:21:04.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006187)  
1,210 labor

**[06:21:05.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006188)  
inspectors lang

**[06:21:06.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006189)  
ang talagang gumagawa

**[06:21:08.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006190)  
ng labor

**[06:21:08.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006191)  
inspection

**[06:21:10.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006192)  
sa mga kumpanya.

**[06:21:11.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006193)  
Sa proposed budget po

**[06:21:12.580] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006194)  
na 877.34 million

**[06:21:15.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006195)  
for labor

**[06:21:16.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006196)  
laws compliance,

**[06:21:17.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006197)  
ilan po ang

**[06:21:18.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006198)  
mahire na

**[06:21:19.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006199)  
labor inspectors

**[06:21:20.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006200)  
for next year,

**[06:21:21.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006201)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:21:22.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006202)  
good sponsor.

**[06:21:26.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006203)  
Based dun sa data

**[06:21:27.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006204)  
ang binanggit po,

**[06:21:28.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006205)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:21:28.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006206)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:21:29.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006207)  
kung ilan yung mahahire,

**[06:21:31.140] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006208)  
is so

**[06:21:51.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006209)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:21:51.940] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006210)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:21:52.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006211)  
pasensya na po

**[06:21:53.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006212)  
for the delay.

**[06:21:54.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006213)  
But based dun sa ating

**[06:21:55.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006214)  
datos na nakahawak dito

**[06:21:57.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006215)  
pertaining sa labor

**[06:21:58.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006216)  
inspectors,

**[06:21:59.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006217)  
which is totaling,

**[06:22:00.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006218)  
dun po sa binabanggit na

**[06:22:01.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006219)  
876 million,

**[06:22:04.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006220)  
ay meron po tayong

**[06:22:05.520] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006221)  
1,046 na

**[06:22:07.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006222)  
labor inspectors,

**[06:22:09.100] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006223)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:22:09.620] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006224)  
distinguished colleague.

**[06:22:10.480] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006225)  
Additional labor

**[06:22:11.340] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006226)  
inspectors?

**[06:22:12.500] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006227)  
No.

**[06:22:13.200] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006228)  
Existing po,

**[06:22:14.060] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006229)  
filled up.

**[06:22:16.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006230)  
Filled up?

**[06:22:17.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006231)  
Sige po.

**[06:22:18.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006232)  
Kasi po,

**[06:22:18.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006233)  
ang nabanggit na ating

**[06:22:19.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006234)  
labor sekretary,

**[06:22:20.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006235)  
only 447

**[06:22:21.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006236)  
out of 1,210.

**[06:22:24.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006237)  
So ano naman po

**[06:22:24.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006238)  
ang plano natin,

**[06:22:25.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006239)  
doon sa

**[06:22:25.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006240)  
remaining 763

**[06:22:27.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006241)  
out of that

**[06:22:28.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006242)  
210 labor inspectors

**[06:22:30.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006243)  
sa hindi actively

**[06:22:30.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006244)  
nag-inspect.

**[06:22:34.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006245)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:22:35.660] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006246)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:22:37.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006247)  
to refresh everything,

**[06:22:39.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006248)  
yung current plantila po

**[06:22:40.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006249)  
is 1,210.

**[06:22:43.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006250)  
And yung binagit ko po

**[06:22:44.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006251)  
kanina,

**[06:22:44.900] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006252)  
so 1,210,

**[06:22:46.300] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006253)  
you will less

**[06:22:47.000] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006254)  
sa 1,046.

**[06:22:49.760] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006255)  
So if minus

**[06:22:50.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006256)  
1,046 to

**[06:22:51.880] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006257)  
1,210,

**[06:22:54.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006258)  
eh hindi po

**[06:22:54.540] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006259)  
700 plus.

**[06:22:55.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006260)  
So,

**[06:22:55.460] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006261)  
hindi po

**[06:22:55.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006262)  
ilan na lamang po

**[06:22:56.600] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006263)  
yung kailangan

**[06:22:57.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006264)  
punan.

**[06:22:59.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006265)  
Na-fill up na.

**[06:23:03.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006266)  
Sige po.

**[06:23:04.080] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006267)  
So ma-fill up po

**[06:23:05.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006268)  
natin to

**[06:23:05.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006269)  
given the proposed

**[06:23:06.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006270)  
budget for 2027.

**[06:23:10.840] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006271)  
And,

**[06:23:11.400] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006272)  
additional information,

**[06:23:14.080] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006273)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:23:14.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006274)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:23:15.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006275)  
kasi yung

**[06:23:15.740] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006276)  
binanggit niyo po

**[06:23:16.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006277)  
kanin datos

**[06:23:17.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006278)  
was ngayon na

**[06:23:18.640] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006279)  
ito yung nga po

**[06:23:19.320] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006280)  
pinaka-updated

**[06:23:20.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006281)  
sa ngayon

**[06:23:20.980] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006282)  
at the time

**[06:23:21.780] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006283)  
as we speak.

**[06:23:23.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006284)  
So for the record,

**[06:23:24.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006285)  
ano nga po

**[06:23:24.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006286)  
ulit ang datos?

**[06:23:25.280] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006287)  
1,046

**[06:23:27.920] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006288)  
labor inspectors.

**[06:23:30.420] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006289)  
And,

**[06:23:30.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006290)  
after this,

**[06:23:31.580] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006291)  
we can,

**[06:23:32.240] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006292)  
if the good

**[06:23:33.160] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006293)  
gentleman would,

**[06:23:36.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006294)  
we will give you

**[06:23:37.260] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006295)  
the exact data

**[06:23:38.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006296)  
para on the chart po

**[06:23:39.680] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006297)  
per region

**[06:23:40.360] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006298)  
na nakalagay dito

**[06:23:41.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006299)  
and with totals

**[06:23:42.860] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006300)  
dito po

**[06:23:43.700] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006301)  
sa aming chart

**[06:23:44.440] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006302)  
na kasalukuyang

**[06:23:45.380] Rep. Rommel Rico T. Angara** (asr-006303)  
hawak.

**[06:23:47.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006304)  
Sige po.

**[06:23:47.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006305)  
Marami pa po

**[06:23:48.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006306)  
sana akong tanong

**[06:23:49.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006307)  
pero nangako po ako

**[06:23:50.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006308)  
that I'll keep it

**[06:23:50.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006309)  
at 10 minutes

**[06:23:51.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006310)  
at unholy na po

**[06:23:52.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006311)  
talaga yung hour.

**[06:23:54.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006312)  
So,

**[06:23:54.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006313)  
with,

**[06:23:55.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006314)  
with no other

**[06:23:55.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006315)  
member of the

**[06:23:56.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006316)  
minority

**[06:23:57.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006317)  
that wish to

**[06:23:58.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006318)  
propound questions

**[06:23:59.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006319)  
to the Department

**[06:24:00.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006320)  
of Labor,

**[06:24:01.080] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006321)  
I move to

**[06:24:01.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006322)  
terminate

**[06:24:02.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006323)  
the period

**[06:24:03.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006324)  
of interpellation

**[06:24:04.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006325)  
of the budget

**[06:24:04.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006326)  
of the Department

**[06:24:05.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006327)  
of the Department of Labor and Employment,

**[06:24:06.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006328)  
TESDA

**[06:24:07.240] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006329)  
and its attached

**[06:24:07.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-006330)  
agencies.

**[06:24:09.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006331)  
What does the House

**[06:24:10.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006332)  
say?

**[06:24:11.840] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006333)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:24:13.000] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006334)  
on the part

**[06:24:13.680] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006335)  
of the majority,

**[06:24:15.320] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006336)  
we join

**[06:24:15.860] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006337)  
the minority

**[06:24:16.760] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006338)  
in the motion

**[06:24:18.120] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006339)  
to terminate

**[06:24:19.160] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006340)  
the interpellations

**[06:24:20.120] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006341)  
on the proposed

**[06:24:21.500] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006342)  
budget

**[06:24:22.080] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006343)  
of the Department

**[06:24:23.520] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006344)  
of Labor

**[06:24:24.320] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006345)  
and Employment

**[06:24:25.280] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006346)  
and its attached

**[06:24:26.880] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006347)  
agencies,

**[06:24:27.440] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006348)  
Madam Speaker.

**[06:24:28.440] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006349)  
So, move,

**[06:24:29.080] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006350)  
Madam Speaker.

**[06:24:29.680] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006351)  
There is a joint motion

**[06:24:30.760] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006352)  
to terminate

**[06:24:31.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006353)  
the interpellations

**[06:24:32.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006354)  
of the proposed

**[06:24:32.720] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006355)  
budget of the Department

**[06:24:34.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006356)  
of Labor and Employment

**[06:24:35.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006357)  
including its

**[06:24:36.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006358)  
attached agencies.

**[06:24:37.440] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006359)  
Is there any

**[06:24:38.040] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006360)  
objection?

**[06:24:39.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006361)  
The Chair hears none.

**[06:24:40.520] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006362)  
The interpellations

**[06:24:41.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006363)  
of the proposed

**[06:24:42.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006364)  
budget of said agency

**[06:24:43.440] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006365)  
is hereby terminated.

**[06:24:45.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006366)  
Majority Leader.

**[06:24:46.560] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006367)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:24:48.120] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006368)  
I move that we

**[06:24:49.040] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006369)  
suspend

**[06:24:50.000] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006370)  
session

**[06:24:51.440] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006371)  
until later

**[06:24:52.840] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006372)  
10 a.m.

**[06:24:54.640] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006373)  
September 17.

**[06:24:56.560] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-006374)  
So, move, Madam Speaker.

**[06:24:57.800] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006375)  
Is there any objection?

**[06:24:59.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006376)  
The Chair hears none.

**[06:25:00.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006377)  
Session is suspended

**[06:25:01.640] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006378)  
until September 17

**[06:25:06.560] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006379)  
at 10 in the morning.

**[06:25:09.280] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006380)  
Session is suspended.