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Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000143I apologize for the delay. I know we should have started at around three, but we had to go to the session hall because I had to sponsor several measures before the floor.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000144So I do apologize and thank you for your patience and understanding. Well, let us now begin. Magandang hapon po sa ating lahat. The budget briefing for fiscal year 2007 proposed budgets of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas and the Philippine Reclamation Authority is hereby called to order. We will be joined by several of our colleagues later on.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000145I would also like to thank and acknowledge the presence of CFO Secretary Dante Ang and PRA Chairman Alexander Lopez. At this juncture, may I ask the Committee Secretary to acknowledge our other resource persons in today's budget briefing?
Committee Secretary
asr-000145-split-2Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. The Committee on Finance, Subcommittee H, would like to acknowledge the presence of the following:
Committee Secretary
asr-000146From the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, earlier acknowledged by the Chairman, we have Secretary Dante Francis Ang II. Good afternoon po. We also have Undersecretary Maria [unclear] Borja. From the Philippine Reclamation Authority, also earlier acknowledged by Chairman Senator Erwin Tulfo:
Committee Secretary
asr-000147Attorney Alexander Lopez, Engineer Cesar Siador Jr., Director Elio [unclear], Director Anthony Peter Crisologo, Attorney Jose Ferrer Jr., and Attorney Joselito Gonzalez.
Committee Secretary
asr-000148Attorney Joseph John [unclear]. From the Commission on Audit for the Commission on Filipinos Overseas,
Committee Secretary
asr-000158we have Mr. Fahad bin Abdul Malik Tumawis.
Committee Secretary
asr-000168From the Commission on Audit for the Philippine Reclamation Authority, we have Mr. Marlon Marcadia. Good afternoon, sir.
Committee Secretary
asr-000177From the Department of Budget and Management for Commission on Filipinas Overseas, we have Ms. Mary Rose Aguilar, good afternoon ma'am.
Committee Secretary
asr-000178And also from the Department of Budget and Management for Philippine Reclamation Authority, we have Ms. Lulu Vizpo, good afternoon po.
Committee Secretary
asr-000179I think that is all, Mr. Chair.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000180Thank you, Committee Secretary. I would like to acknowledge the presence of our Minority Leader, Senator Alan Peter Cayetano. Thank you, sir, for joining us this afternoon.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000181Anyway, for today, the Finance Subcommittee H will deliberate on the fiscal year 2027 proposed budgets of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas and the Philippine Reclamation Authority.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000182As we deliberate on the 2027 budget,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000183let us remember that every peso appropriated is a peso entrusted to us by the people.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000184Kaya dapat malinaw po saan napupunta ang ating pondo, ano ang resulta, at sino ang tunay na makikinabang.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000185For the CFO, our starting point is equally clear.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000186Hindi lamang remittance ang ambag ng ating mga kababayan sa abroad.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000187They bring skills, investments, ideas, networks, and most importantly, a continuing connection to the Philippines.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000188For the PRA,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000189we will look closely at the balance between development and environmental stewardship.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000190Reclamation and the development of public lands must be anchored on sound planning,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000191economic value, climate resilience, and the long-term interests of Filipino people.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000192Hindi po sapat na may proyekto.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000193Dapat malinaw kung may tunay na pakinabang sa publiko.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000194At the end of this deliberation,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000195our standards should be clear:
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000196Translate into public value, measurable results, and meaningful services to the Filipino people.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000197This is how we uphold fiscal responsibility and more importantly, maintain the trust that our people place in government.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000198Let this hearing therefore be candid, constructive, and focused on the outcomes.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000199Ang budget ay hindi lamang po numero sa papel.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000200Ito ay salamin ng ating mga prioridad at pananagutan sa mamamayan.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000201Thank you.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000202Let's proceed.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000203But before we do that,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000204I would like to ask our minority leader, Senator Cayetano, if he has any opening statement.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000205Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000206I will follow your lead.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000207You said to keep it clear, focused, professional.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000208So, sa akin lang po yung biblical principle, kung anong ating itatanim, yan ang ating aanihin.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000209And in that spirit, after the chairman, may I ask one or two questions?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000210To the Honourable Secretary Dante, about Filipinos overseas.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000211Thank you, Mayor.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000212With that, let us proceed with our budget hearing.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000213We will open the floor now for the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, if they have any or if they want to make any presentation.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000214Secretary Ang, go ahead.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000215Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Honourable Members of the Committee.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000216With your permission.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000217Sirs, I have a two-page opening statement and a five-minute video, if that would be okay.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000218Go ahead.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000219Salamat po.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000220Whenever stakeholders hear us, it is often followed by questions about our connection to our other migrant-serving counterparts and our scope of work.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000221Put simply, the CFO's mandate is to foster diaspora engagement through programs and policies
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000222that involve and empower our non-resident Filipinos.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000223To participate in national development.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000224NRF is our term for permanent migrants, expatriates, dual citizens, marriage migrants, as well as all their descendants and cultural exchange program participants in the U.S. and Europe.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000225They are the reason why the CFO exists under Batas Pambansa 79 to serve migrating Filipinos and lead in the Brain Gain initiatives.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000226The CFO ensures that NRFs are connected to the Philippines politically, economically, and culturally.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000227The Philippines enjoys a competitive advantage.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000228But Filipinos overseas need programs and policies that enable them to participate in development.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000229First, the CFO serves the largest segment of our migrants.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000230About 60% of the estimated 10.7 million Filipinos residing overseas fall under the CFO's
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000231specific purview and require government services.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000232This is more than half of the population, and they are vital resources for the Philippines.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000233The diaspora, despite migrating long-term, continues to identify with being Filipino
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000234and expresses an earnest desire to be involved in the country. Second is its economic significance.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000235just like ofws our nrfs bring in a significant amount of remittances but they are hardly
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000236recognized for this contribution. Our flagship diaspora program, Lingkod sa Kapwa Pilipino (LINKAPIL),
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000237has facilitated more than 3.4 billion pesos in contributions over the decades.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000238in relation the cfo's constituents not only give back economically as the chairman said
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000239but they also provide knowledge and skills transfer to communities
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000240we have done medical mission they have done medical missions capacity building workshops
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000241and consultations with our partners
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000242The LINKAPIL economic engagement program is one through which NRFs can help SMEs in
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000243the philippines and support small-scale infrastructure third is harnessing political
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000244and social capital. Our NRFs serve as informal ambassadors of our country,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000245imbued with soft power some diaspora members are not only community leaders but they also
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000246serve in key positions in governments overseas the cfo collaborates with these important
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000247figures
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000248and opens the way for business, social, and tourism ventures in the Philippines.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000249the creation of the cfo in 1980 signaled a clear recognition that international migration
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000250extended beyond labor mobility and required focused attention on immigrant populations
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000251and transnational engagement our filipino diaspora summit last june brought together
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000252nrfs from around the world and echoed the same sentiment it proved that the diaspora
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000253is not seeking engagement the philippines in the abstract but rather with specific concrete
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000254development opportunities provided by the cfo thus it are it is our intention to continue our mission
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000255and ensure that the contributions welfare and interests of our permanent and long-term
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000256migrants are not neglected. To facilitate our plans, the CFO is proposing a budget of 195.2 million pesos. Forty-eight percent,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000257or 93.898 million pesos,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000258will be allocated to personnel services, while 52 percent, or 101.302 million pesos,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000259will be allocated for maintenance and other operating expenses, or MOOE.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000260in terms of distribution by major program activity or project
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-00026173.26 million will be allocated to general administration and support or gas
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000262the cfo assures that the budget shall be maximized to its fullest potential as evidenced by a previous
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000263performance in 2025 we were able to obligate 91.36 percent of our of our budget with a
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000264disbursement rate of 92.6 percent in the last seven years the cfo has maintained more than a 90
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asr-000265disbursement rate. In 2027, the CFO will not only maintain its regular programs such as BaLinkBayan,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000266YouLeaD, Ugnayan, but also intensify campaigns for further diaspora engagement for national development.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000267we plan to conduct outreach to overseas filipino organizations
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000268create development focus modules for the youth intensify our anti-human trafficking efforts
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000269and bolster partnerships with other migration and development stakeholders
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000270to help achieve our new goals we are also requesting an additional 88 million 764 000
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000271for the cfo mismo baling buy-in project continuing cost office productivity and our newly created for
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000272filipino diaspora volunteer program supporting the cfo means strengthening our commitment to
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000273every filipino whether they are at home or abroad so with your permission mr chairman i now show
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000274a brief video to summarize all of these proposals
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asr-000275Around the world, millions of Filipinos have built lives, careers, and communities. With them is a vast reservoir of knowledge, expertise, networks, resources, and a continuing desire to contribute to the Philippines.
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asr-000276For many, the question is
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asr-000277not whether
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asr-000278they want to help,
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asr-000279but how, where,
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asr-000280and with whom
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asr-000281they can make a meaningful contribution.
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asr-000282This is where the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, or CFO, comes in.
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asr-000283CFO connects Filipinos overseas with credible programs, communities, government institutions, and partners
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asr-000284through which they can remain engaged and contribute to the country's development.
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asr-000285Around 6 million non-resident Filipinos or NRFs live across the world
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asr-000286as permanent residents, naturalized and dual citizens, spouses and partners of foreign nationals,
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asr-000287descendants of Filipino migrants, exchange visitors, and other migrants under the Commission's mandate.
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asr-000288Across countries, citizenships, and generations, one bond endures.
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asr-000289Dugong Pinoy
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asr-000290CFO strengthens the political, economic, and cultural ties of Filipinos overseas with the Philippines
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asr-000291and facilitates their meaningful participation in national development.
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asr-000292For Filipinos overseas who want to remain connected and contribute to the Philippines,
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asr-000293CFO provides concrete ways to take part.
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asr-000294LINKAPIL connects NRFs who want to give back with channels for supporting local development.
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asr-000295In 2025, the program facilitated 14.4 million pesos in donations from 2,835 overseas donors,
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asr-000296benefiting 17,698 Filipinos in 17 provinces and the National Capital Region.
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asr-000297Beyond immediate assistance, CFO encourages contributions
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asr-000298that address
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asr-000299longer-term development needs
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asr-000300and strengthen community resilience,
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asr-000301turning bayanihan across borders into concrete action.
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asr-000302BaLinkBayan
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asr-000303reconnects Filipinos overseas with their places of origin,
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asr-000304working with LGUs to link diaspora investments, expertise, community initiatives,
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asr-000305and other forms of participation with local development needs.
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asr-000306CFO also engages succeeding generations through Philippine schools overseas,
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asr-000307YouLeaD,
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asr-000310and the Virtual Centro Rizal, strengthening Filipino identity and their connection to the homeland.
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asr-000311Ugnayan brings CFO services, programs, and diaspora engagement initiatives directly to Filipino communities overseas.
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asr-000312CFO also brings NRF perspectives into policymaking,
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asr-000313helping ensure that diaspora concerns are reflected in government policy and migration governance.
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asr-000314PESO Sense strengthens financial literacy, supported by a digital community of 3.9 million followers and nearly 800,000 SAVERS Group members.
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asr-000315Together, these programs represent one of CFO's defining roles, our second frontline,
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asr-000316which continues after Filipinos have established lives overseas.
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asr-000317Here, CFO helps reconnect the diaspora with the Philippines and channel their knowledge, skills, networks, investments,
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asr-000318philanthropy, and other resources toward national and local development.
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asr-000319In this way, migration becomes a continuing circulation of knowledge and resources,
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asr-000320helping transform brain drain into brain gain through diaspora engagement.
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asr-000321CFO's work also begins before migration.
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asr-000322At our first frontline, we prepare and support Filipinos as they build new lives overseas.
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asr-000323In 2025, CFO served 81,859 Filipino migrants,
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asr-000324and program participants across its pre-departure, counseling, au pair, and exchange visitor programs.
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asr-000325CFO also protects migrants through the 1343 Action Line and its advocacy and coordination work against trafficking in persons.
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asr-000326As migration continues to evolve, so must the way government reaches and engages Filipinos overseas.
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asr-000327CFO is strengthening its digital services, BaLinkBayan, critical information systems, and overseas reach
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asr-000328through
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asr-000329honorary diaspora representatives in selected communities.
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asr-000330These initiatives will make government services more accessible and enable more Filipinos abroad to connect, participate, and contribute to the Philippines.
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asr-000331As the Filipino diaspora continues to grow and evolve,
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asr-000332so does the importance of keeping the Philippines connected to Filipinos wherever they may be.
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asr-000333CFO brings the global Filipino community closer to the country's development needs,
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asr-000334and brings credible avenues for participation,
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asr-000335closer to Filipinos wherever they are.
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asr-000336CFO translates public resources into programs and services for Filipinos overseas.
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asr-000337In 2025, the Commission posted a 91.36% obligation rate and a 92.60% disbursement rate.
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asr-000338For Fiscal Year 2027, the CFO has a proposed budget of P195.2 million under the National Expenditure Program.
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asr-000339Additional resources
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asr-000340will allow CFO to reach more Filipinos overseas,
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asr-000341strengthen program delivery,
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asr-000342expand digital access,
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asr-000343and deepen diaspora engagement for national and local development.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000344Thank you, Mr. Chair.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000345We can take questions now.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000346Thank you, Secretary.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000347Let me turn over the mic now to our Minority Leader,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000348Senator Allan Cayetano.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000349Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000350As we were discussing, Mr. Chairman,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000351together also with Senator Rafi Tulfo,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000352we were discussing the Department of Migrant Workers, Secretary Dante.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000353The original version that, at least the one I filed,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000354first in the Senate and then in the House of Representatives,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000355when it was passed, I was in the House of Representatives.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000356The original version was not Department of Migrant Workers.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000357It's a department for overseas Filipinos.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000358Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000359The idea then was God works in mysterious ways.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000360So 2008 or 2009, I visited the UK.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000361A very good finance person and ambassador, Ambassador Espiritu, entertained me.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000362His joke was that he was fired because of GMA after I visited him.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000363He brought in a couple of young people.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000364And realistically, if you saw them,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000365maybe one looked very Filipino.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000366Two, may hint ka na tatay, nanay, lola nito Pilipino.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000367Yung tatlo akala mo Indian, British Indian.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000368Yung isa akala mo Chinese, British.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000369But all of them had Filipino blood.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000370Then he said to me,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000371Senator, these are the ones who have money.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000372Because they are the grandchildren.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000373So yung migrants, yung lola nila, nurses, engineers,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000374may [unclear] diyan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000375Talagang lahat ng klaseng hirap.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000376Pero yung magulang nila nakapag-aral na sa mga UK schools,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000377British universities,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000378with a good salary.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000379But these ones, they are in the top schools.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000380At yung mga graduate nito, pinag-aagawan na.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000381So they are in good company.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000382But most of them have never visited the Philippines.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000383So he wanted to point out,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000384he thought of a program.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000385He said, yes, it's a good program.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000386Let's say in Hong Kong,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000387if your boss wants to join,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000388it's a plus one visitor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000389And Hong Kong is just nearby.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000390Or if you're an engineer in Saudi,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000391and you want to sell a different vacation spot from the usual,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000392Eh marami din namang Muslim Filipino,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000393so kino-consider din.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000394But compared, for example, to Dubai,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000395Indonesia, Malaysia,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000396medyo hindi tayo first, second, third choice.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000397So we put that in the bill.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000398Unfortunately, some members at that time,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000399even in the budget,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000400I'm looking at your budget,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000401one particular person,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000402I won't name him because he just has an idea.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000403He's not here in the Senate.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000404He said,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000405why should we spend for people
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000406who are no longer Filipinos?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000407Right?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000408Without,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000409he didn't see the flip side.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000410He didn't choose,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000411when he was born,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000412that they are now apos,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000413and their parents
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000414are no longer Filipinos by citizenship,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000415but Filipinos by blood.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000416And later on,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000417the dual citizenship was passed.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000418And to some who do not own,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000419or have no land here,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000420and his whole family is in the US,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000421in Europe,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000422in Japan,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000423in Korea,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000424there was really no incentive
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000425to have dual citizenship.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000426And there are some countries,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000427like Japan,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000428I know a Filipino-Japanese,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000429he said,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000430Sir,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000431here,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000432when we ask,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000433we need to answer in Japanese.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000434Unlike in the US or the Philippines,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000435when you ask,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000436you can say that you are a dual citizen.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000437Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000438So my point,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000439Mr. Secretary,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000440is that
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000441at the end of this year,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000442the law creating the
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000443Department of Migrant Workers
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000444will trigger for early next year
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000445a review.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000446And both Senator Tulfos have said
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000447that they will spend time on that.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000448And I just want to lay that on your feet
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000449because you're in the cabinet.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000450Look at the interplay of
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000451because it's complicated enough
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000452what is with the migrant workers,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000453what is with the DFA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000454Then you will add more Filipinos
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000455overseas.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000456And I was looking at your programs,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000457magaganda,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000458katulad nung mga pre-depart,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000459yung PIDOS,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000460yung sa DFA,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000461may paos din sila aside from PIDOS.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000462But if I look at the flip side,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000463I'd like you to,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000464I'd like you to have programs
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000465in the US,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000466in the UK,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000467in France,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000468getting these young Filipinos
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000469to get to know their country by black.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000470by origin. And you'll be surprised
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000471Senator Tulfo, there's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000472what year was that?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000473If I'm not mistaken, I was
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000474either a new senator or congressman
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000475pa ako. So around 2007-2008
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000476we went to South Africa
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000477and the embassy
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000478brought Filipinos to us
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000479and they were there since
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000480late 1800s
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000481and they were asked
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000482how did your ninunos
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000483get here? Sabi na sir
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-0004841800s pa lang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000485nagsustokwa na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000486yung mga Pilipino sa mga ships
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000487tapos kung saan may opportunity
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000488doon. So yung mga lolot-lola
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000489namin, nasa mga
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000490ships, galleon trade, whatever
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000491it is. Alam naman
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000492natin galleon trade
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000493Mexico, through Mexico
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000494then Spain. But
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000495may mga ganun talaga. But
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000496because the embassy there
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000497tuwing may bibisita na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000498Philippine delegation, ipapakilala
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000499but sa iba, nawawala
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000500yung institutional memory.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000501I remember in 2007-2008
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000502or 2009
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000503first time ko sa Ukraine
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000504very very different
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000505when we went to a new hotel
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000506may gumaganon na chef
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000507kasi nasa gitna, yung open yung kitchen
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000508nasa gitna ng hotel, gumaganon
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000509takan-taka yung mga tao
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000510tapos sabi nung honorary consul
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000511no no, we have about five
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000512uh
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000513Filipinos here.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000514How did they get here? Well, some went
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000515to Europe, some went to Russia
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000516basta somehow Filipinos find
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000517the way. Parang tubig
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000518kahit anong harang mo sa dam
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000519and everything, hahanap yung Pilipino.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000520So I promise the chairman, maikli lang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000521So I do
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000522want you to have the budget you need
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000523but vis-a-vis
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000524the programs that will
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000525bring in
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000526not only funds
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000527not only
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000528uh put it another way, no?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000529If there's gonna be a revival
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000530of Filipino culture in the same
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000531way that nung nagkaroon ng K-drama
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000532K-pop, di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000533Nung I remember
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000534when I was a new congressman
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-0005351998, pagpunta ka ng
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000536Malaysia, Thailand, yung mga DVD
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000537or VCD pa ba yung pirated nun?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000538Mga dinab na Filipino
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000539movies, di ba? Then sumikat
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000540ang Bollywood and then
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000541later on sumikat na yung Korea
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000542but one of these days, whether it's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000543Filipino food, whether it's yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000544ube ngayon abroad,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000545whether it's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000546our traditional hilot
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000547in the massage,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000548whether it's our family
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000549oriented culture,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000550one of these days, magkakaroon
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000551ng renaissance din ng
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000552what is Filipino and with more than
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-00055310 million Filipinos abroad,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000554I think your
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000555commission
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000556needs an
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000557upgrade all around.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000558Personal, resources,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000559programs, etc. So sa
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000560US alone,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000561at least when I was in DFA, they said 6 million
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000562ang tingin nilang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000563may Filipino heritage.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000564Halo na daw yun na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000565TNT
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000566totally Americano na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000567dual citizen and everything.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000568So that's not a small number.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000569Can you imagine if 10% of them
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000570travel to the Philippines,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000571that's 600,000. If each
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000572of them may isang anak or may isang asawa,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000573na hindi
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000574of Filipino descent,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000575that's 1.2 million. Ang highest
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000576atin-atin sa tourism is
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000577around 1.6 million, which is
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000578I don't know if it's Koreans now or the Japanese.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000579But my point is
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000580for every tourist that comes in, for every
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000581two tourists, two to three,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000582one Filipino job is created here.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000583And like me,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000584on my
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000585mother's side, my grandfather
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000586is German
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000587American, but I've never
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000588been to the island which is in the
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000589boundary of
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000590France and Germany.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000591I've never been there.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000592I've never been in Germany per se.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000593But if the German government
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000594had a program
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000595and I got to go there 30 years
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000596ago, maybe every five years
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000597pumupunta.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000598Wala pa akong nakitang pute
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000599na turista na may
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000600opportunity na pumunta ng Pilipinas once
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000601na hindi bumalik.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000602In fact, if you look at let's say si Becoming
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000603Filipino, si Kulas,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000604he opted not to
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000605leave anymore.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000606We have a number of US personnel
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000607when we had US bases.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000608They married here
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000609or some remarried
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000610and did not leave anymore.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000611I know at least a few
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000612ambassadors who
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000613got married to a
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000614Filipina after their assignment here
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000615but they plan to
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000616come back. So I leave it
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000617at that thought na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000618if you can have a program to get
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000619people of
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000620Filipino blood
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000621to be more conscious of their
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000622motherland than to get
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000623them here, I think we shouldn't
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000624be short-sighted in parang ano yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000625immediate na babalik sa atin.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000626Di ba kasi magtatanim ka talaga ng
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000627matagal-tagal.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000628I mean if you look at the Tulfos for example,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000629I grew up knowing
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000630yung eldest nyo si
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000631Mon Tulfo at
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000632the time hindi pa SOCMED. It was really
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000633inquirer ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000634Di ba inquirer?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000635But parang sa bilis ng panahon suddenly
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000636silang magkakapatid. Ibat-ibang shows
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000637pero suddenly popular
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000638sa lahat. Di ba? So
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000639tanim lang ng tanim eh. Then you wake
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000640up one day nandoon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000641So you might be the right. May timing
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000642din eh. May timing. I mean
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000643what I'm saying now is not original.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000644It's probably also from people
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000645in your commission who I heard
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000646years ago or
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000647people from DFA who gave a couple
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000648of ideas.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000649The last point I wanna make is that
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000650the few trips that I did
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000651make as DFA Secretary,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000652ang dami pala talagang official na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000653Pilipino. Di ba? Whether sa
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000654US ay met nun yung Soljen
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000655who was
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000656Filipino din. Of course
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000657yung mga actors
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000658and sports, baseball,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000659basketball marami. But
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000660sa New Zealand
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000661di ba meron isa na tumakbo
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000662sa Parliament.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000663I don't know now. But ang point ko
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000664lang sir, mahirap
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000665makialam sa politika ng ibang bansa.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000666But just connecting
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000667whether it's New York City, Daly City,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000668whether it's in Hawaii na maraming
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000669Pilipino. I think that's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000670invaluable para sa
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000671sa atin. So dati kasi
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000672susulat ka pa, te-telegrama, mahirap
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000673makontakt. Ngayon ma-meet mo
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000674lang at may relationship ka. Whether sa messenger,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000675WhatsApp, Viber,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000676you can keep in touch. Yung iba nagro-group
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000677chat pa. And the younger they are,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000678the more open they are to
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000679to
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000680to keeping in
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000681touch and then to visiting each other's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000682country. So I did
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000683most of the talking but I'd like to support
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000684a bigger budget in the plenary.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000685But I think to do that
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000686and para hindi tayo
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000687ma-accus ng insertion yun,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000688there has to be a program.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000689But I really think whether it's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000690basta kung saan pinakamaraming Pinoy
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000691was looking nandito sa
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000692whether it's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000693US or yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000694Pinoy pero
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000695how do I put it?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000696Tinatarget natin sila na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000697visit the Philippines pero
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000698hindi sila necessarily
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000699gagastusan mo kasi pupunta rin
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000700naman sila ngayon. So obviously
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000701if OFW sila, may
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000702programa na sa kanilang POEA or
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000703whatever. So
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000704Mr. Chairman, yun lang yung aking
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000705input and
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000706my way of supporting
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000707the present programs by talking about
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000708the other side, aside from
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000709yung...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000710We do have a...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000711So like my mother,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000712she didn't take Filipino citizenship
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000713pero nag-retiree.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000714So
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000715and for example, Dumaguete
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000716is always in the top five,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000717top three, top five
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000718best place to retire in the world.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000719Habang paganda ng paganda
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000720yung Clark, I think
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000721pala...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000722So many places in the Philippines that could really
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000723be place for retirement
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000724or even for young people to
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000725study, baka pwede din sa commission
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000726nyo yun na parang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000727study in the Philippines or
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000728do a summer in the Philippines or
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000729put up a business in the
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000730Philippines, retire in the Philippines. Thank you
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000731Mr. Chairman.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000732Thank you, Majority...Minority
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000733Leader. Isang question
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000734lang po, Secretary. I wanted to question
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000735how many have you
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000736served the CFO? How many
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000737Filipinos or
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000738permanent residents have you served
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000739last year?
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000740Mr. Chair,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000741about 70,000 po go
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000742through our office for the pre-departure orientation
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000743seminar. But as our
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000744presentation showed po,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000745we are looking to see how
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000746the Honorable Minority Leader said,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000747how we can also engage them to
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000748come back to the Philippines in various ways.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000749I'm glad po the Minority Leader
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000750brought up that very interesting program
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000751and he may be
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000752glad to know po that the CFO
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000753has the youth leaders in the
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000754diaspora program. This has been a decades
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000755long program where
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000756we invite young
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000757members of the Filipino diaspora
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000758to come to the Philippines
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000759to learn about our culture
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000760and heritage.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000761Nagsimula po yung program na yan
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000762sa Lakbay Aral. Pero
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000763over the years po, we
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000764inserted leadership
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000765training components
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000766so that hindi lang po siya po
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000767to resume.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000768But importante rin po yan.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000769So,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000770we haven't yet quantified po yung
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000771pabalik, but the ones outgoing po,
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000772about 70,000 po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000773Okay, thank you.
CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II
asr-000774Thank you.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000775Do you have any more questions? You're good.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000776Well, anyway, there being no
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000777other questions, the fiscal
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000778year 2027 proposed budget
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000779of the Commission on Filipino Overseas
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000780is now being submitted for
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000781consideration, subject to
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000782the discussions and submission of
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000783requested documents. Thank you,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000784Secretary. And the CFO delegation
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000785is now permitted to leave the venue.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000786This budget briefing of
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000787the CFO is now over. Thank you.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000788Budget briefing is suspended.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000801exclude ourselves to 80,000 events that have more than 20,000 participants, because the biggest exhibition center we have now is 18,000. Yung MOA po, ang PICC is 10,000, of course on two venues, and ang World Trade is
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-00080214,000. Yun naman pong Philippine Arena, wala pong hotel, hindi maka-attract po ng international MICE events. So this will be colossal trade fairs. From the past and now, we had to turn away events because of the lack of facilities. Marami ho tayong tine-turn away. We will open ourselves and unlock the ability to host world rotating
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000803association congresses and global trade fairs. It will be a 140,000-square-meter main venue. The building will be [unclear] square meters and will be the biggest in Southeast Asia. For example, Singapore Trade Expo has a 120,000
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000804square-meter area, but they attracted 1.5 million participants. A 140,000-square-meter venue at an industry standard 50 to 60 percent utilization rate could reasonably attract an additional 300,000 to 500,000 delegates.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000805Nung nagpe-present po kami sa Nether Board, tinanong po, "Malaki naman yung halaga ng building ninyo. Bakit hindi na natin ibigay sa Department of Tourism yan?" Sabi po ng Department of Tourism, sila na sumagot para sa amin: "Your Honor, we would rather have the PIEC that will bring in the tourists." Right now, a regular tourist spends 6,000 per night, per day.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000806Karamihan po ngayon ng tourists, mga backpackers, mga estudyante. But a tourist will bring in 30,000 dahil funded po sila ng korporasyon nila, ng gobyerno nila, and they will set up booths. This influx would represent a [unclear] increase over pre-pandemic baseline arrivals, [unclear] the Philippines into a top
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000807global destination. Ngayon po tayo sa [unclear] because we only get [unclear] tourists. PIEC's return on investment is [unclear]. One is PIEC's economic effects. The PIEC is designed to generate economic value beyond
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000808its immediate project. It will be a powerful catalyst for growth across sectors: commerce, tourism, real estate, transport, [unclear], services, IT, hotels,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000809shopping, restaurants, transport. It will not only [unclear] national taxes but local taxes. Number two, the PIEC will hasten real estate growth. We anticipate significant [unclear] from local and [unclear] partners, increasing appraisal of our own
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000810real estate. Alam niyo po dito sa MOA, Financial at Entertainment City, it took us 49 years for [unclear] casinos, [unclear] hotels, tens of thousands of units and millions of square [unclear] for commercial and cultural purposes. May simbahan po, etc.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000811Hindi na po natin [unclear] 49 years. This will be an anchor tenant, and we believe we are already attracting inquiries from hotel owners. From 62,000 per square [unclear] ang valuation ng lupa two years ago when we conceived PIEC, at nalaman po internationally,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000812the value po ngayon, the last sale in the newly reclaimed area is already [unclear]. Sa appraisal value pa lang po ng Republika ng Pilipinas, the Republic owns [unclear] of the newly reclaimed land and about 400,000 [unclear].
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000813So it is a total of about [unclear]. This appreciation in land value, the PIEC's ability to [unclear] property assets, enhance [unclear], create jobs and generate a stream of government revenue, a strong foundation for future investments and broader tax base and urban development.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000814As one of PBBM's legacy and flagship projects and infrastructure, PIEC is set to be a substantial source of government revenue stream over the next 50 years, a conservative estimate contribution to the national government of at least P422 billion based on PRA projections confirmed by the DOF, the NEDA, and the ICC.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000815This is conservative. The Ways and Means has estimated a higher value, the Congress Ways and Means Committee, which we are gladly to give you.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000816This long-term revenue position, PIEC, as a sustainable revenue source for government, reinforcing the financial infrastructure needed to fund essential government services.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000817Ngayon po,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000818when we assumed office, 38 billion lang po noong November 2023, 38 billion lang po ang assets ng PRA.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000819Ngayon po, 228 billion na.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000820And soon, we project it to be 400 billion.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000821And when we reach the full potential, that is when, kasi hindi naman natin pwede ibenta ng wala sa halagang ang lupa natin.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000822So when it reaches full potential, maybe two, three years from now, then doon po talaga makikinabang ang Republika ng Pilipinas.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000823So, impact on future generations.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000824The PIEC will serve as a foundation for job creation across various industries and forge stronger partnership within and across the border.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000825By delivering large-scale and integrated paradigm for development, the PIEC will broaden the landscape of office.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000826The PIEC will broaden the landscape of office.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000827The PIEC will broaden the landscape of office.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000828and showcase our greatest assets, our people, our culture, and stand as an enduring testament and its endeavors.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000829The project will be located on 81,000 square meters, owned by the PRA within the Pasay City Harbor Reclamation,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000830a newly reclaimed land within Pasay City, and it's part of a Pasay Eco-City coastal development,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000831which is about 6.5 million square meters.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000832Ang natituluhan na ho dito, 135 hectares.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000833This year, we expect another 225.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000834And next year, the balance of 3 million square meters po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000835We are growing very fast, completing the projects very fast.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000836It will be connected to the mainland by 15 bridges that will be construed to be fully funded,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000837by the private sector, wala pong gastos ang gobyerno rito.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000838It will have 88 kilometers of road, it will have 120 kilometers of sewer lines and flood control,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000839and 22 kilometers of revetment.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000840So yung sinasabi po nila, mawawala yung dagat po, yung isa pong project natin, yung SM,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000841pinaatras po ni Presidente ng 500 meters para magkaroon po ng gap between Sofitel area
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000842and the newly reclaimed area.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000843Kaya makikita niyo po that we will have 22 kilometers of new coastline.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000844And lahat po ito, libre sa gobyerno.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000845We will have 88 kilometers of bike lane, sidewalk, free electricity and water lines to the government's
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-0008463 million 100 square meters.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000847We will have 312,000 square meters of parks and green spaces, all free of charge.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000848This is made possible by the funding of the private sectors.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000849The immediate implementations of these projects have been accelerated through the construction
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000850of the PIEC.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000851Dahil may deadline po tayong minimit, lahat po nag-a-apport ngayon.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000852Makikita niyo sa mga pictures, nandyan na po yung mga tulay, ginagawa na po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000853Nandyan na yung mga kalye, ginagawa na po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000854Seven of these bridges will be completed before the targeted date, completion date
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000855of the PIEC.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000856As for before, wala ho silang date.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000857Ngayon po, binilisan po namin para ma-jumpstart at umabot sa PIEC.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000858Currently, we can benchmark PIEC against Singapore's 1.5 million tourists, Expo-level utilization,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000859Canton-style trade orientation.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000860Of course, we cannot compare because they have a huge, huge competition.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000861Canton Exhibition Center and Bangkok Po, which has 1.2 million exhibitors last year.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000862Through the infrastructure presented earlier, we can develop PIEC and its immediate environs
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000863including transport, utilities.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000864The PIEC is an exhibition and convention center envisioned to capture the growing demand
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000865for meetings, incentives, conventions, and exhibitions.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000866Tourism in Southeast Asia.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000867Kami po sa PRA, we are positioning ourselves not to be a mice for Philippine products and
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000868people and events and meetings, but we want to steal some of the, sorry for the word po,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000869we want to take some of the tourism from Singapore, which has 1.5 million mice participants
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000870in Singapore Expo alone in Thailand.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000871We are confident we can do this.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000872One quick question, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000873Ano po ang specific competitive advantage ng PIEC natin na wala sa existing convention and exhibition facilities
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000874sa isang bangsa?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000875At ano po magiging dahilan para piliin ng international organizers ang PIEC natin
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000876kaysa sa ibang venue sa Southeast Asia, Singapore, Thailand?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000877Sorry.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000878Unang-una po, mura po ang labor dito.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000879Mas mura ang hotel natin sa Singapore at sa Thailand, lalo na pag nadatingan na ho yung mga mice tourists.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000880Ang nagtatayo po ng boots dito, mura po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000881And this will be a novelty for this exhibition.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000882Alam nyo naman, marami ho dito sa nag-e-exhibition po, junket ang hinahanap.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000883Hindi naman pwede puro Thailand, Singapore.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000884At Japan at China lang sila.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000885So marami po rito nag-o-open.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000886In fact, we have already had...
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000887Some inquiries on this, no?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000888Patanong ko lang din po, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000889May projected number na po ba ang international conventions, exhibitions, events na inaasahan po natin na dadalhin po ng PIEC kada taon?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000890Ano po ang assumption at saan nyo po nakuha itong projections na ito?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000891Ang projections po namin, nakuha namin sa Department of Tourism po at data from Singapore and Thailand po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-0008921.5 million po ang nakuha po ng Singapore Expo last year.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000893And Singapore Expo is only 120,000 square meters.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000894And Thailand which is 240,000 square meters, nakakuha po ng 1.2 million.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000895Of course, these are developed, we cannot compare.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000896So we go at a very low level sa umpisa po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000897Kasi 140,000 po ang makakuha lang tayo ng isa o dalawang event na kalahati po noon.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000898Di 140,000 tourists na po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000899Spending at an average of 30,000, malaki na po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000900So, this will be the largest in Southeast Asia with 243,000 square meters.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000901And we would like to thank the President for his vision.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000902In thinking of...
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000903To engage in MICE.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000904So, at least we are thinking big in economics.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000905So, it aims to represent the country as a nation that is international in its outlook and ambitions
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000906with a desire to engage with the global community and foster connection.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000907The PIEC aims to be a catalyst, not only of MICE events, but a meeting place to showcase not only Philippine products,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000908culture, arts, history, and culture.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000909But also the Philippines' plan to position itself as a meeting place and trading center of Asian products, culture, people, history, and tradition.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000910The PIEC being the biggest exhibition center in Southeast Asia and having the cheapest cost, skilled labor, friendly and English-speaking population,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000911and cheap booth construction, and cost to produce.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000912These events, for MICE events, among countries with big exhibition center, enhances the reputation of our Southeast Asia.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000913Alam niyo po, we had recently signed with the late Docs Kua a memorandum for the League of Governors to give all the provinces 50 square meters to exhibit their indigenous products.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000914And we are signing with the cultural center dahil kulang daw sila ng exhibition spaces.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000915And with the PIEC, PICC, another MOA po para po makapag-exhibit ang cultural center.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000916Mr. Chairman, let me cut you there.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000917Dito lang po ba nakasentro sa inyong presentation sa PIEC na project, ang inyong presentation this afternoon.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000918Otherwise, if we will just be...
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000919We will be centered on spend most of our time explaining PIEC.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000920Ako pa tatanungin nyo, buhay benta po ito.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000921I mean, mabenta po sa akin.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000922Kung tatanungin nyo, okay po ito.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000923But I have a few questions and of course, our minority leader would also ask questions.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000924We will be happy to answer.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000925Mabilisan lang ito. I hope pa, hindi na po tayo tatagal sa PIEC.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000926Maganda po yan.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000927Yung kanina po nag-usap tayo, pinipresent yun sa atin.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000928It's a pride of our country, sir.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000929Tanong ko lang po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000930Is it expected po ba na self-sustaining itong PIEC o kailangan pa rin natin na annual government subsidy?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000931Wala na po. Wala na pong government subsidy.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000932In fact, ang sagot lang po ng national government dito ay yung building lang po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000933Yung pang-furnitures, fixtures, yung mga equipment, yung mga ano, will be shouldered by PRA, yung parking lot po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000934Not the personnel.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000935Of course, kailangan po natin mga electricity dyan, water, personnel, pasweldo.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000936Ilan tao po ang kakailanganin nyo dyan?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000937Dapat po lahat ito, naka-breakdown.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000938On a small scale, all the exhibition centers naman make money.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000939Kasi talagang in demand po, katulad po nung eskwelahan po ng misis ko po, in Lyceum,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000940they only have 3,000 graduates.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000941Hindi sila makapag-graduate po ng sabay-sabay.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000942At iniimbita nila isa lang po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000943Kasi wala po tayong exhibition center.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000944At malaki po ang binabayad ng bawat isa po na makapaupa po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000945And you multiply this all over, baka sa Pilipinas lang po, fully jump-pack na po ito.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000946Kasi ang dami talagang, kulang talaga tayo ng events places.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000947As you will know, CSM po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000948Yung opisina po nila, kinalahati nila, giniba nila para makapagtayo ng another exhibition center.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000949Yan, makikita nyo po. Manggaling dito, papunta sa Moa.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000950Giniba po nila yung offices nila para makapagtayo po ng exhibition center.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000951Ganun po kalaki ang demand na exhibition.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000952At ang pangulo po natin ay hindi magpapahuli.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000953At nauna po, with this vision, we commend him for...
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000954for coming up with this project and we are supporting it po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000955Alright, Mr. Chairman. With the indulgence of our minority leader, okay na po sa inyo.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000956Para sa akin eh. Okay na po itong presentation ng PIEC or you have questions pa about PIEC?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-00095720 pages na lang po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000958Joke. Joke pa, boss.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000959Go ahead po. Go ahead po, minority leader.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000960Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000961Actually, yung questions ko ay para kay GM at assistant GM.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000962But on this lang, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000963Um...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000964First, eto, public service din. Parang radio program ni Senator Tulfo. May nagpapatanong.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000965Yung Las Piñas wetland park land title, kailan daw po itatransfer ng PRA to DENR?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000966See, there was a bill.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000967There was a bill to have it transferred.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000968And I think it was passed by Congress and the Senate.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000969But the President po vetoed the bill.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000970At hindi na po itatransfer.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000971So, it will be kept by PRA?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000972Opo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000973Sige. So, malamang yung follow-up question neto sa plenary na, Mr. Chair.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000974At least natanong ko lang.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000975Second, Chair.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000976Sir Chairman, so tama po ba ako?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000977So, yung iniingin yung total na 27 billion will be doon sa development netong PIEC?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000978The building lang po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000979At this budget, dumaan lang sa amin as a subsidy.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000980Kasi kami ang may-ari.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000981So, kayo may-ari nung lupa?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000982Hindi lang ng lupa. Pati ho nung project.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000983Hindi nung mga kami ang magpupuno dahil may konti nga kaming cash.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000984So, that's what I wanted to clarify.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000985Yung lupa na na-reclaim is yung share nyo sa ibang projects.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000986So, rather than flipping it or selling it or bidding it out,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000987you want to see if, yun nga, given such a ambitious good project,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000988you can...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-000989you can do it this way.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000990With your indulgence, not only that,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000991biglahong tumaas ang presyo po ng lupa namin.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000992Kasi this is only 80,000 square.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000993We still have 3 million.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000994Nung nilagay namin ito...
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000995And even the other developments.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000996Kasi kahit sabihin mong competitor sila,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000997pag ganyang kaganda yung katabi,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000998tumataas.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-000999Diba? Like when ginawa yung Santa Rosa or ginawa BGC,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001000ginawa Rockwell,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001001automatically tumataas din yung mga katabi.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-00100264.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-00100324,000 nga po, two years ago, ang appraisal sa amin.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001004Ngayon po, ang appraisal, 300,000 na po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001005Marami na pong bumili.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-00100624 hectares na po ang nabili after we have a...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001007So, last two questions.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001008May...
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001009Just to support your question kanina,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001010Senator Caetano.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001011Yung sinasabing nyo po na 27 billion,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001012for your information, minority leader,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001013actually, 6 billion po ang inilabas
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001014sa unprogrammed appropriations po ng 2024 GAA,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001015some appropriations po ng 2024, ga-a.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001016Tapos, nagdagdaga ng 6 billion naman,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001017contingency fund ng 2026, ga-a.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001018So, total na po,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001019tapos sumingi po kayo nga ng 5 billion for 2027.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001020So, that will be 17 billion.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001021Ang estimate po, 27.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001022So, kulang pa po ng 10 billion.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001023Is that what you're saying?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001024Nasaan na po tayo ngayon sa construction?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001025Ilang percent?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001026Madagdag-dagdagan ko lang po yung katabi.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001027We are...
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001028Alam nyo naman po,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001029construction is an S-curve.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001030Mabagal po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001031Ang akyat niyan,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001032nasa 11% po tayo.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001033But the DPWH,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001034we have a program of expenditures
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001035signed by the DPWH.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001036Hiningan po namin sila.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001037Sila po ang nagsabi nitong pangangailangan na to.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001038Sila ang nagprogram sa amin
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001039kasi kami, daanan lang ng pera.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001040Hindi ko malaman, sila nag-bid.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001041I think what the chairman means is,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001042so how much do you need for 2027?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001043Five lang po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001044Five.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001045And then 2028, five ulit.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001046Ten po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001047Pero according to DBM and to Secretary of Public Works,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001048and upon my request,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001049ililipat na ho namin sa kanila
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001050kasi tumatagal yung ikot.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001051Although three days lang sa amin,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001052ayaw namin hawakan ho yung pera.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001053Kasi gusto namin talaga maging successful ang uto
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001054kasi napakaganda po sa bayan ito.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001055What's the completion date nito, Mr. Chairman?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001056When are we looking at?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001057April.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001058April 2028.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001059So we have already several events lined up
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001060for April and May 2028.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001061No, on that point,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001062hindi madali maghanap ng pera.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001063But on that point,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001064kung hinahabol ng April 2028,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001065hindi ba too late kung yung 10B 2028 pa ibibigay?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001066Kasi given certain delays and everything,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001067katulad ngayon, it's September.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001068Malaki po dito retention po, sir.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001069They will have retention
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001070and I think the construction's final billing
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001071will not be released
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001072until they have fully completed.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001073So in your estimation, walang delay
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001074basta't mabigay yung 5B in 2027?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001075Opo. At kung kakapusin man,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001076ay mangungutang po kami,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001077babayaran na lang po nung makukuha ang budget sa 2028.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001078So the next question I was going to ask is,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001079in general, I know there are a lot of components,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001080but are you saying,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001081and of course, kayo naman ang Philippine Reclamation,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001082authority,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001083that okay naman ang reclamation,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001084basta't number one, it's for public purpose,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001085two, it's sustainable,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001086and it follows with the environment?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001087Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001088Hindi lang sa pasa yan?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001089Hindi po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001090I'm sure, kahit nasaan ka, private sector, PRA,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001091mal na mal mo ang siyudad mo ng Manila.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001092Opo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001093So basta't public, sustainable?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001094Opo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001095Kahit sa tagig?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001096Opo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001097Okay, very good.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001098So after that, Mr. President,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001099I have some questions for the GM.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001100Go ahead.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001101With your permission, Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001102Mamaya na ako sa second round.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001103The reason why I want to ask the Chairman,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001104just because sila yung pumirman ng mga letters and everything.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001105So magandang hapon sa PRA family.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001106Congressman Crisologo, nice to see you again.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001107Sir, takidefine lang ang reclamation.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001108Your Honor,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001109sa aking pagkaintindi po sa reclamation ay isa pong pamamaraan na
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001110tinatambakan po yung tubig at makikita,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001111magkikreate po tayo ng lupa para ito ay gamitin for a certain postponement.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001112Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001113I won't argue with that, Tinagalog mo,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001114but actually sa NEDA-PRA Joint Order No. 01-2015,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001115January 12, 2015,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001116PRA's EO No. 74, Series 2019,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001117the deliberate process of converting foreshore land,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001118submerged areas of bodies of water,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001119into land by filling or other means using dredge fill
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001120and other suitable materials,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001121for specific purposes.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001122Correct.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001123Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001124Next question po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001125Are you familiar with the West of Manggahan flood control project?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001126What's it?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001127Flood control project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001128Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001129So you are not familiar with that.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001130That is a March 1997 project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001131Okay. That is a March 1997 project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001132That is a 9.411 billion yen ODA project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001133Is the PRA familiar with the Taguig C6 road dike project?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001134Your Honor,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001135pangatloon taong po ko pa ito kasi hindi ko pa po alam kung
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001136nung pumasok ako dito ay meron na po yan mga control project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001137Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001138So are you familiar of the development of the Taguig C6,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-00113926 road dike and West of Manggahan project
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001140between 2007 to 2009?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001141Pasit siya na po, Your Honor.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001142Hindi po ako familiar.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001143Are you familiar of the opening of the roads
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001144and the development of the retaining channels
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001145and the pumping stations during Pinoy's time from 2010 to 2016?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001146Hindi po, Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001147Are you familiar that Secretary Vince Dizon,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001148Secretary Mark Vigilar,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001149Secretary Diokno visited and went in one of the landing sites
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001150in that project and said napakaganda nito doblehin natin
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001151from two lanes gawin natin four lanes in 2018?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001152Your Honor, kung yun po ang sinasabi po ng ating Department of Public Works and Highways,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001153sumasangayon po ang PRA sa mga development.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001154Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001155So are you familiar that in the year 2020 kasama si Congressman Crisolo,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001156there was a 14 billion allotment?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001163Para gumawa ng right-of-way or flyover from the Laguna Lake going to a certain highway of the San Miguel Corp.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001164That was unacceptable to Taguigenos because more than 10,000 houses would have been demolished and there are more than 1,000 ancestors.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001165Are you familiar with that?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001166Your Honor, again, hindi po ako familiar.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001167Okay sa akin kung hindi ka familiar doon.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001168Meron po kaming kasama dito po si Attorney Literal na siya pong nauna sa amin dito sa kanyang...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001169Okay, I will transfer to him. Please feel free to interject anytime.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001170But siguro ang unang lesson sa inyo, huwag kayong pipirma ng sulat or magsasalita kung hindi ka familiar.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001171Di ba? Di sana ang sumulat at ang magsalita ay yung siya.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001172Noted.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001173Atty. Joseph Literal, sir, are you familiar with the West of Manggahan project?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001174Sir, yung sa flood?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001175Yes, it's a ODAF project sealed by Secretary Vigilar and then implemented during GMA's time na.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001176Secretary Datumanong, are you familiar?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001177Yes, sir, pero hindi po.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001178As PRA po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001179Okay.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001180But I'm familiar.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001181You're familiar.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001182Opo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001183Kasi, but sir, kayo galing kayo DNR, di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001184Sino pong galing DNR?
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001185Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001186Kailan ka nag-NCR, sir?
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001187DNR po, 1986 po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001188Oh, matagal ka na.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001189Pero sa Environmental Management Bureau po ako natin.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001190Okay, okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001191So, sir, are you familiar that there were three possible alignments of the Manggahan floodway?
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001192Sir, I'm just familiar with what is existing.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001193So, the three alignments was inland, tapos yung sa tubig, tapos doon sa yung present alignment ngayon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001194So, are you familiar with the present alignment ngayon?
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001195The C6, Your Honor?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001196Yes.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001197Ilan hektarya ng existing land, hindi for land.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001198Existing land is outside the dike.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001199Hindi pa ako familiar sa exacto.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001200Pero ang dami nang lumalabas sa news na iniimbestigahan niyo, 90 hectares, 170 hectares, hindi niyo man lang kinokorek ang media.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001201How many hectares is outside the dike?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001202Your Honor, actually, we have used the GIS.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001203Since when yung GIS?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001204Ginamit niyo yung ano, di ba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001205Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001206From when?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001207Sir, we're doing...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001208Yes, what date?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001209Since early 2000 until present.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001210Okay. Ano ang sinabi sa akin ni Secretary Vigilar nung 1999? Do you know?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001211Hindi. Not aware.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001212So, he told me, hindi ko muna sasabihin sa iyo kung ilan daan hektarya, na pag ginawa yung dike as is, mag-eerode yung lupa. Kasi nasa labas siya ng dike.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001213So, will your aerial show the historical land-ownings of LLDA or will it only give you a partial picture?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001214Your Honor, actually, the GIS and the satellite viewing using the backtracking on the years,
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001215it would only show not what is shore land or other areas but only what has been submerged before and what is now covered.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001216Yes, noong 2000.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001217Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001218O ano bang taon ang batas ng LLDA? 1960s, 1970s? O gano kalalim ang lake ng 1960s? Alam mo? O more or less 30 feet, more or less 10 meters. Gano kalalim ang Laguna Lake ngayon?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001219Sir, about 3 or 4 meters.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001220Gano kadaming puno na naputol sa Laguna at saka sa Luizal?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001221Honestly, wala po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001222Gano karami na nag-eerode?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001223So, tanungin ko sa inyo ngayon, are you familiar with torrents, land titling?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001224Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001225So, kung nagkaroon ng torrents, meron siyang land title 30 years ago, walang nag-dispute, walang problema.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001226Dahil nagka dike, tumaas yung torrents.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001227Tumaas yung tubig, nakuha yung part ng tubig. Is that now not a titled land anymore?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001228Sir, it's still a titled land.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001229But sa media, anong pinapalabas?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001230Did you make those qualifications sa media na we're still looking, na marami kaming hindi alam dyan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001231Sir, we just gave an estimate on the area which were previously underwater,
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001232which are now dry land, Mr. Chair.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001233Vis-a-vis what? You don't even know how many dry land was there historically.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001234Nandun sa papeles ng JICA, sinubmit sa JICA, 27 years ago, 1,300 hectares.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001235There is 1,300 hectares of land outside the lake.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001236I do not know how much is titled or not because hindi naman ako LRA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001237Diba? O, let me continue.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001238So, do you agree with the definition of the GM dun sa reclamation?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001239Yes, Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001240Okay. Yung binasa ko, tama?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001241That's under our policy, Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001242So, are you familiar with the 2007 construction of the C6?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001243Sa road dike?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001244Yes, Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001245Okay. Are you, 2013, panahon ni Pinoy, are you familiar with the development there?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001246With the project, the lakeshore project which did not push through, yes, Sir, Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001247Diba pa yun? 2015 yun. Yun yung C6 na 8 lanes, diba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001248Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001249Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA yun?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001250Binid yun, diba? Hindi lang natuloy.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001251Yes, Po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001252Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001253Hindi, Po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001254How about yung Manggahan-Cladway? Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA yun?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001255Hindi rin, Po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001256Pero do you classify that as a reclamation?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001257Yes, Sir. Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001258Pero hindi kumuha ng permit sa inyo?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001259Yes, Po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001260Okay. So, sa yung panahon ni Pinoy na hindi rin kumuha?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001261Hindi, Po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001262Okay. Sa House of Representatives, tinanong sa inyo whether or not in other parts of the Laguna Lake, Rizal, Laguna,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001263kung kumuha ng permit sa inyo sa reclamation, meron ba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001264Wala, Po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001265Wala? As of now, wala?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001266Wala, Po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001267Okay. So, pero pag meron reclamation doon, na nakita niyo ngayon, kahit siya ay sa gobyerno, you will ask the DPWH to stop it?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001268No, that's part of our complete stop work, Your Honor. Hingi po kami ng records and then we'll have them comply.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001269Oh, did you ask the DPWH for the records for the Tagalog?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001270Yes, Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001271And then, kailan niyo sinabing cease and desist?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001272Even before that, Sir, meron na po kaming show cause on the Laguna Lakeshore Road Network.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001273Kanino niyo in-issue, Sir, ang show cause?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001274Sa DPWH, Po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001275Do you have a copy?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001276We have a letter since 2024.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-0012772020?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001278Four.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001279Two?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-0012802024?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001281Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001282So, kay Secretary Bonoan pa lang?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001283Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001284Okay. So, pinatigil niyo rin ba yung Laguna Lake Road Network?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001285Your Honor, we asked for the details and whether there is a reclamation and then they answered that it's just a road network and they are making sure through PRA that there would be no reclamation.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001286Very good. Can I see the picture of the LLRN?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001287Kaming po dito.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001288So, take note, Mr. Chairman, Mr. GM. Sabi ng Deputy GM niyo, kapag katagig, kailangan may complete staff work. Kailangan kunin lahat. Pero pag ibang part ng Laguna Lake, okay lang yung sabi-sabi ng DPWH. Hindi niya hiningi yung papers eh. Sinabi niya, okay lang sa inyo na tanungin lang sila.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001289At ang sinabi daw, there is no reclamation.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001290Ano tawag mo sa kulay pula at kulay blue na yun? Which is about anywhere between 100 to 100 meters from the shoreline to 1 kilometer from the shoreline. Ano tawag mo dyan? 8 lanes yan sa tubig gagawin. Hindi reclamation yan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001291Actually, Your Honor…
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001292Nasa website yan ng LLDA.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001293Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001294Nasa website yan ng DPWH.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001295Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001296So, hindi reclamation yan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001297Reclamation.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001298Sa definition niyo, reclamation yan, di ba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001299Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001300So, sa iyo hindi reclamation yan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001301Reclamation, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001302Bakit hindi niyo in-issue ng cease of business?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001303Sir, there is…
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001304Kasi hindi tagig yan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001305Ano, Sir?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001306Sabi mo kanina eh, kapag meron kayong nakita, ipapa-full staff work niyo. Sabi niyo, ang tagig, pinul staff work niyo.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001307Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001308Nung tinanong ko sa iyo, paano naman yung Laguna Lake Road Network, tinanong mo lang sa DPWH. At sinagot na walang reclamation. Ano tawag mo?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001309Sir, there is…
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001310Ano tawag mo diyan, Sir? Sagutin mo nalang tanong ko, please. Ano tawag mo diyan? Hindi ba reclamation yan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001311Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001312O, under your definition, reclamation yan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001313Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001314O, ba't hindi niyo isis and desis?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001315Actually, Sir, they have committed to realign, redesign the project…
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001316They're not. They're building it already.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001317Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001318O, they're building it already.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001319Sir, yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001320How many times bigger yan, yung pinag-uusapan natin sa tagig?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001321Sir, they would be complying with our requirements.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001322Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001323How will they comply with your requirements? While they're doing it now, they're building.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001324Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001325Hindi ba requirement niyo bago mag-reclaim, kailangan kompleto pati sa checklist?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001326That's for regular reclamation, Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001327O, ano ba itong tawag sakali?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001328But there are instances wherein this had been approved by the government, but because they did not go through the PRA process, they would have a post facto compliance.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001329No, no, no, Sir. Huwag mo akong bulahin.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001330Huwag mo akong bulahin. Yung post niyo, binasa ko yung rules niyo.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001331Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001332Ang sinasabi dito, kapag ka ang national government or local government ay nag-reclaim at unauthorized, pwede silang mag-apply na mapunta sa kanila. Hindi ibig sabihin na pag wala silang permit, pwede lang ituloy-tuloy.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001333So, you have to decide now. Do you have jurisdiction over LLDA or not? If you have, then you have to stop all of the illegal reclamation.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001334Ongoing ngayon yung DPWH project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001335Na damuhala ang laki compared sa tagig. Na hindi nag-submit sa inyo ng feasibility study. Na hindi nag-submit sa inyo ng environmental study. So, you will ignore that? Bakit?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001336No, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001337No, you're ignoring it now. You're not asking them to stop it.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001338Sir, we are now coordinating.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001339No, no, no, no. You're not coordinating. You do not have a letter to cease and desist. You do not have a letter to show cause.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001340Sir, we have a letter with the DPWH.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001341Telling them to stop it.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001342Telling them to stop it.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001343And then they also filed, Sir, the information about the LLRN, Your Honor. It's part of our CSW at present.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001344Okay. Sundan ko, Honorable Board, sundan ko logic ng inyong deputy. So, kung yan ang gawin ng tagig, wala na tayong problema?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001345Sir, yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001346So, pag sinubmit nila yung information, tapos pinakita nila ng gobyerno.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001347Sir, we'll go through the process, Your Honor.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001348Of the regularization of the unauthorized projects.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001349Okay. So, I'll ask you. Hindi sinasubmit sa inyo ng DPWH kasi sa Friday nandito sila. Sino proponent ng LLRN?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001350Sir, it's Laguna Lake Development Authority and DPWH.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001351No, no, no. No, it's DPWH.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001352Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001353Okay. O, sino ang proponent ng mga sinisist and desist nyo sa tagig?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001354DPWH also, Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001355O, sila din eh.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001356Kaya po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001357O, so you're, no. I want to get information from you now.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001358So that I can confirm.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001359So that I can confront them on Friday.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001360So, you're telling me now sa LLRN.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001361Sila po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001362Nagko-coordinate sila. Pero sa tagig projects hindi sila nagko-coordinate.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001363Sir, nagko-coordinate din po sila.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001364O, eh bakit mo sinisist and desist yung isa? Nagko-coordinate na pala eh.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001365Sir, that's part of the cease and desist order.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001366No, I'm trying to see, Sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001367Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001368If you're doing selective justice here. You have two projects. One is more than ten times bigger. One is ten times smaller. Same proponent.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001369One is even more useful than the other. May gumagamit na ba nung highway ngayon?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001370Nung LLRN, Sir?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001371Oo.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001372Wala pa po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001373Oo. So, wala pang public use yun?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001374Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001375Sir, with your permission, Mr. Chairman. This is a one-minute video. Can you show the one-minute video?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001376Yes?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001377Yes, Sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001378O, Mr. Literal. That is the linear park na ginagawa ngayon. That is public use. Hindi private yan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001379Pag Christmas, 30,000 people a night dun sa 2 hectare na yan. Pwera pa dun. Okay. Hindi ba yan ay public use?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001380Hindi.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001381Okay. Yung tinap niyo, shophouses.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001382Ano pa?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001383Shophouses. Singapore. Lahat ng Pilipino sinasabi, sanang may ganito tayo sa Pilipinas. Ginagawa ngayon. Yung katabi, I'm not at liberty to tell you who designed it. He's one of the best designers in the country na environmentalist na ginagamit ng national government.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001384Ang katabi na susunod na gagawin ay yung parang fund to make sure na walang erosion para sa environment.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001385Did you know that yun ang isang STINAP niya?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001386Did you know that?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001387No, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001388Have you ever written the city of Taguig to ask about the project?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001389Sir, we have written the city of Taguig last October 2025.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001390No, no, that's not my question. My question is, have you ever written the city of Taguig to ask them about the projects?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001391About the lots.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001392Okay. Ang sinasabi mo, nagsalita ka sa bilyonaryo, ang sabi niyo po, sir, may show cost order kayo sa city.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001393Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001394Can you show me sa letter, saan nakalagay dito show cost?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001395Binasa ko yung letter pa ulit-ulit. Ang nakalagay dito, ma'am, pakibigay yung mga tito.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001396Ang nakalagay dito, ma'am, ano yung project? Wala pong nakalagay dito show cost. Wala po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001397Ang nakalagay dito, itong mga lupa na ito may titolo, pakita titolo sa PRA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001398Ang nakapirma po dito, sir, kayo po. Kaya kayo po tinatanong kasi taga-DNR po kayo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001399So, balikan ko yun, sir, ha?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001400Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001401Sir, kung magtatanong tayo ng titolo, saan po tayo magtatanong?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001402Ang mga titolo po ay hinahawakan.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001403Hinahawakan po ng Land Management Bureau.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001404Okay. So, alam nyo ba, sir, na inibitahan ng staff ko si chairman sa opisina ko nung sinulat nyo ito?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001405Opo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001406Alam nyo kung anong sinabi namin?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001407Hindi ko po alam, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001408Sabi namin, ayaw namin magmukakay yung incompetent sa PRA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001409Kasi, sino ang susulat sa mayor para humingi ng titolo?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001410Hindi naman po registrar of deeds ang asawa ko, eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001411Ang mayor po, hindi naman na ano, eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001412Ito po, project ng DPWH.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001413Lahat ng lupa po na nandyan ay pagmamay-ari ng LLDA under a Republic Act.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001414Kaya nung pagdaan ni chairman, if you remember, chairman, sa plenary wala po kayo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001415So, hinanap ko po kayo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001416Dahil matagal na kaming magkaibigan nung pamilya ni chairman, pati nung tatay niya ay kaibigan na kaibigan ng tatay ko.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001417Ang kapatid niya ay kabatch ko, di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001418Ang mga pinsan niya, kaibigan ko.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001419Pagdaan sa office ko, tinanong lang, sir, ano problema?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001420At tinanong ko ng staff ko, sir, ba't kayo nagtatanong ng titolo sa mayor at may problema ba dito?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001421Kaya sabi niya, hindi, mag-coordinate na lang.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001422At sinabi ng staff ko, sir, ang magko-coordinate, DPWH, kasi hindi naman po project ng tagig yan, eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001423Project ng DPWH.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001424Kaya ang tinanong pa nga ni chairman, kailangan ko ba maghintay dahil birthday nung anak niya?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001425At tinawagan ako ng staff ko, sabi ko, hindi, hindi.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001426Kaya ako lang sila gusto makausap para linawin sa budget, pero kung namamadali at kung mag-uusap-usap naman lahat ng opisina natin, bakit hindi?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001427Tama, chairman? More or less?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001428More or less lang, di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001429Oh, so meron po ba akong pananakot sa PRA?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001430With the indulgence of the minority leader.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001431I just have two quick questions.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001432Oh, go ahead.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001433Very quick lang.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001434I would like to address this to the PRA.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001435When is the approval of PRA needed for reclamation project?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001436Can any one of you answer that?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001437Attorney literal.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001438Kailan ika nga ang kailangan ng approval ng PRA para sa isang reclamation project?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001439When?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001440Sir, under our present, they need approval in all types of reclamations for whatever purpose, Mr.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001441Okay.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001442So, actually, lahat kailangan.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001443Hindi kailangan na yung approval ng DA, hindi kailangan.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001444Kailangan lahat.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001445Pag reclamation.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001446Yes, sir.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001447Alright.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001448One last quick question.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-001449What does Taguig need para ikang malift yung ikang cease and desist order?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001450Sir, wala.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001451Sir, may CDO po kami sa DPWH.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001452Sa Taguig City po, yun lang pong letter na yun, Mr. Chair.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001453And your honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001454Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001455Pasensya na po kayo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001456I'm not emotional at you.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001457Ang tagigin nyo, more than 500 years na.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001458Before 2003, even nung impeachment ni President Erap, kumulan ng October hanggang January, baha kami.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001459Wala kaming mga main road.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001460Buti ang Makati, may Buendia, may Makati Avenue, may Pasay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001461Diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001462Nagawa lang yung Cayetano Boulevard.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001463Tapos itong General Santos.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001464Doon sa tinatanong ko sa inyo, kung pamilyar kayo doon sa isa.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001465So, pag pinag-usapan ang syudad namin, you can investigate.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001466Everyone is open.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001467Actually, Mr. Chairman, I'll take the opportunity, kahit sa colleagues natin.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001468I'd like to be magnanimous.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001469I thank them for bringing up this issue.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001470Ang issue ko ay sa DPWH at LLDA at saka sa inyo, tatlo kayong gobyerno.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001471Ba't hindi kayo mag-usap?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001472So, attorney, nakausap mo na ba si Secretary Vince Dizon?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001473Yes po.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001474Actually, sir, hindi.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001475Yung USEC po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001476Sinong USEC po?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001477Sir, for the LLRN, it's USEC sa Dain.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001478For the Taguig Project.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001479For the Taguig Project, it's the USEC for the District Engineer, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001480Hindi pa kayo nagkaayos?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001481Hindi pa nasubmit lahat?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001482Sir, nasubmit na po sa amin.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001483Eh, bakit? Meron pang cease and desist order.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001484By the way, Mr. Chairman, walang pondo yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001485Kaya kahit hindi nyo sinis and desist, may isa lang na tinatapos na project doon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001486At yung nasa dyaryo na nag-aayos, bumagyo kasi, nagpaalam sila sa DP na ayusin para hindi bumaksak.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001487Kasi tinanong ko rin eh, sa DP, ano nangyayari sa inyo?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001488Kaya yung sinabi ni Secretary Dizon na I'm ordering cease and desist, inorderan niya, sarili niyang tao eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001489Kayo ang nag-order sa kanya.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001490Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001491Diba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001492Sir, sa amin, sir, sa DP daw.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001493Agree.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001494So, kalukuhan yung pag-order niya sa sarili niyang tao kasi siya ang inorderan nyo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001495Okay, number two.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001496So, wala naman siyang isi-cease and desist doon sa haba na pinapakita sa media.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001497Kasi hanggang ngayon, yung 2026 budget, hindi nila binibid at hindi nila nilalabas.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001498So, wala rin siyang umumpisahan kasi wala rin kontratista na natutuloy doon sa ibang project riyon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001499Having said that, sir, what about sa City of Muntinlupa?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001500Did you write them also?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001501Yes, yes.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001502When did you write them, sir?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001503Sir, the report was part of the...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001504More or less lang, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001505More or less lang.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001506Anong year yun?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001507September 2 ng 2025.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001508How about the part...
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001509Sir, 2026, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-0015102026.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001511Okay, 2026.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001512So, in anong year?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001513So, in 2015, 2010, 2020, hindi nyo sila sinulatan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001514Sorry, sir. Wala pa ako po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001515Hindi nyo ba check-in muna bago nyo sulatan ng isang syudad?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001516Sir...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001517Do you have any institutional memory?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001518Meron ba ditong sa legal nyo na napakatagal na nandyan sa PRA?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001519Di ba ang PRA, ang batas nyo, 1977?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001520So, before 2025, sumusulat ba kayo sa anywhere in Laguna Lake?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001521I will go to my point, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001522To your memory.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001523Hmm.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001524Meron ba, sirs, ma'am?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001525Institutional memory.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001526So, we can go back to that, ha?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001527Pasig rehabilitation.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001528Sinulatan nyo to stop?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001529To get a permit?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001530Tingnan nga natin yung picture ng Pasig Rehabilitation.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001531Pasig River Rehabilitation Project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001532O, yung part na yan na hanging over the water.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001533Di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001534Di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001535Di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001536Under your definition, reclamation yan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001537Sir, kapag naka-stilts, hindi po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001538O.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001539San sa regulation yung nakalagay?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001540Kasi wala, sir, permanent dumping, ano, lahok filling up.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001541Eh, yung stilts?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001542Hindi po siya, hindi po siya, ano, doon sa definition ng filling up po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001543O, so, anything na stilts, hindi?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001544Hindi po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001545Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001546Eh, yung part na, ano, in-extend from the side ng river.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001547Kung one meter lang yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001548Assuming, assuming one meter.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001549Sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001550Um, ang kailangan po namin muna, your honor, is yung, kung, yung survey.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001551Kaya nga.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001552Because sometimes.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001553Kina ba kumuha ng permit sa inyo?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001554Ano po?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001555Kumuha ba ang Pasig Rehabilitation?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001556Ah, hindi po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001557Hindi.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001558Hindi rin po.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001559Hindi rin po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001560So, by the way, Mr. Chairman, ha, baka magkamali, ha.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001561I support the LLRN.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001562I support the Pasig, the, the Malacanang is doing a very good job in that.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001563This is what I want to point out.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001564Pagka tagig lakeshore,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001565sinisilip nyo lahat.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001566Pero pag Pasig River, hindi.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001567Pag ibang parts ng Laguna Lake, hindi.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001568So, balik tayo sa Laguna Lake.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001569Sino ang may jurisdiction sa Laguna Lake?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001570Sir, actually, sir, we have overlapping jurisdiction with LLDA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001571Sige po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001572Kayo, sir, lawyer, di ba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001573Yes po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001574Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001575When you have overlapping jurisdiction, you look at its source.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001576Tama, sir?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001577Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001578So, your source is your law and the law ng LLDA?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001579Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001580Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001581And has LLDA in the past ever signified that they have exclusive jurisdiction over the Laguna Lake?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001582Sir, they have, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001583They have, di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001584And has PRA respected that?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001585Actually, we secured opinions from…
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001586No, no.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001587Sagutin mo muna tanong ko, then we'll go to that.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001588No, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001589So, it is only in 2025 that you first…
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001590When you first started to write everyone to try to assert jurisdiction, tama po ba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001591Hindi po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001592Kailan po?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001593Before 2025, kailan kayo sumulat?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001594Actually, sir, ano yung OGCC?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001595Sir, as early as 1995, we already, because of the overlapping jurisdiction, we already secured an OGCC opinion.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001596Because we're both clients of the OGCC.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001597Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001598What about the DOJ?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001599Okay. Between an OGCC and DOJ opinion, what will prevail?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001600Sir, DOJ.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001601Okay. So, what does the DO… May DOJ opinion na ba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001602Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001603Ano sabi ng DOJ?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001604Sir, kailangan, sir, i-harmonize. There are no conflicting provision. Kailangan lang, sir, harmonization ng tulos.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001605Which one yun? Anong resolution ang sinasabi mo sa DOJ?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001606Sir?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001607Sir, sir, sa DOJ opinion pala, such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, yun nga.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001608Sir, sa DOJ opinion, first, opinion number 106, series of 1995, no substantial conflict exists between the provisions of Section 4I of the LLDA Act and Section 4A of the PEA Charter.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001609Such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, the rule that the special law shall remain as an exception.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001612To the general law applies exproprio vigore.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001613Explain to your colleagues kasi yung iba sa kanila yung mga engineer.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001614So, that means, tama ba ako? That since special law ang LLDA, LLDA ang may jurisdiction sa Laguna Lake pagdating ng reclamation, hindi kayo?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001615No, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001616Yun ang ibig sabi niya, ayan o.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001617In the instant case, no substantial conflict exists between provisions of 4-1.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001618Such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, the rule that the special law shall remain as an exception.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001619So, that being the case, the two provisions are in pari materia, the rule above stated, the special law shall remain as an exception to the general law.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001620The general law is the PRA law.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001621The special law is the LLDA law.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001622The LLDA law says they can reclaim.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001623They passed a resolution of their own in 1995 saying that they have exclusive jurisdiction in reclamation in LLDA.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001624Your Honor, can I explain?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001625Go ahead, yes.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001626Actually, the exclusive jurisdiction over sa general and special is over Laguna Lake.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001627Yes.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001628Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001629And reclamation in Laguna Lake.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001630But on the reclamation, sir, nagbaliktad, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001631Nasaan nakalagay yun?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001632Nasaan nakalagay dito sa October 12, 1995?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001633Okay, fine.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001634Sir, doon sa DOJ opinion.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001635Nang 12 October, sir, yun yung sinabi na wala na special.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001636Yes, sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001637Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001638It's a special law.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001639And the special law sabi, they have the power to reclaim.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001640Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001641And they passed a board resolution.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001642Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001643Said that they have exclusive right to reclaim.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001644Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001645Oh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001646And you never questioned that.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001647Reclaim ng reclaim ang gobyerno through the LLDA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001648Oh.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001649Sir, can I read the...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001650Yes, go ahead, please.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001651Pareho naman tayong hapang.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001652Yes, sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001653Yes, sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001654Yes, sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001655Sir, doon sa last paragraph, sir, nung DOJ opinion.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001656Yes, yun ang binasa ko.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001657Yes, sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001658The rule above stated, special law shall remain as an exception.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001659So, ibig sabihin, the general rule is, basta't reclamation, PRA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001660What is the exception?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001661The special law, Laguna Lake.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001662Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001663Oh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001664Tinawagan ko rin ang PRA nung panahon ni PRRD.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001665Yun din ang sinabi.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001666Na hindi kayo nakikialam sa Laguna Lake because nga, they have a special law.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001667And pareho kayong kumukuha ng NEDA approval, di ba?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001668No, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001669Ngayon, may delegated kayo.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001670Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001671Pero may iba-iba kayo, di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001672You were under...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001673If you follow the history, you were under DPWH.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001674Before.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001675Tapos, binalik kayo doon.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001676Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001677Nag-DNR and OP ngayon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001678Then, you have to have the president's approval.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001679Then, NEDA approval.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001680Then, now you can approve for the president.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001681Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001682Oh, kasi general law kayo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001683You can do that anywhere in the Philippines.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001684Except where there is a special law.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001685Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001686And assuming, assuming, assuming you want to challenge that right now.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001687Assuming, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001688Assuming for the sake of order, whatever.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001689You think that you can do a better job. That's your call. Pero ano, apektohan yung public service ng mga parks, madi-delay yung pag-construct. So can you again show the picture of the Laguna Lake Highway?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001690Thank you very much. That's what I want to highlight, Mr. Chairman, Chairman Lopez. Walang problema kung every year nag-aaway kayo ng LLDA, eh siyempre inutos ng DPWH, kumuha na lang kayo ng permit sa ano. Pero kung 20 years na, 15 years na nagko-construct sa side namin at may problema ang PRA...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001691LLDA, kahit kami ang maiipit sa gitna. Tapos ang DPWH na mas malaki ang project, hindi maiipit.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001692Hindi naman po namin iniipit ang mga project po. We were just asked for their compliances according to our rules.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001693That is if every single year ginagawa nyo. Sinasabi ko nga sa inyo, 20 years na may project yan, hindi naman kayo sumusulat doon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001694Tapos pagsulat nyo ongoing yung project, hindi nyo ako tinanong. Dalawa senador na taga-tagig dyan, hindi nyo tinanong yung mayor, hindi nyo tinanong yung dalawang congressman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001695Tapos ang DPWH takot sumagot sa inyo. So hindi ba naipit? So ngayon, kung sa City of Manila, may project dyan na pinapakinabangan ng napakaraming tao, hindi private yan, public.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001696Because may dalawang ahensya na hindi magkasundo kung sino. Biglang matigil, hindi ba naipit yun?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001697We will call their attention po to regularize.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001698Yes, sir. But sinis and desist eh. Wala namang additional reclamation. Kung pumunta lang kayo doon at inimbitahan namin lahat na pumunta doon at nakita nyo, pinapalitadahan lang yung isang project, hindi na kayo gumawa ng gulo at nag-issue ng cease and desist. Hindi ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001699Kung nagpatawag kayo ng meeting ng DPWH at LLDA, kung inimbitahan nyo yung congressman doon sa lugar na yon,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001700kung inimbitahan nyo yung local government, kung inimbitahan nyo yung mga barangay involved, nangyari pa ba itong lahat na to?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001701Kung kapaligtarin ko, kung ganyan ko kayo ituring, hindi na dito tayo mag-usap, kung sa media ko nilabas itong lahat, every week, every ngan, magkakaintindihan ba tayo, sir?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001702Yung project nyo, yung PIEC, kung hindi ko pakinggan ngayon at banatang ko na lang every week,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001703tapos kawawa ang Pilipinas pag na-delay kasi maganda naman pala. Will you appreciate that, Mr. Chairman?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001704Wala kaming problema kung may anomalya dyan, kung may titles. Sir, are you aware, sir, taga DNR, are you aware na napakaraming fake titles dyan?
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001705Totoo po yun, Mr. Your Honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001706So what does myself, what does Mayor Lani, what does Taguig have to do?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001707Kung may fake titles dyan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001708Sabi ni-imbestigahan nyo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001709Di-imbestigahan nyo with LRA, wala kaming problema dun, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001710Wala kaming problema dun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001711O sabi nyo may nireclaim illegally, mapupunta sa gobyerno.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001712Lahat tunong makikita nyo dyan sa gobyerno eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001713So ano ang kukunin nyo para sa gobyerno?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001714Sir, sa interview nyo, paulit-ulit kayo, kukunin namin yan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001715Anong kukunin nyo po? Eh sa gobyerno naman po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001716Anong kukunin nyo po yan?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001717Your Honor, actually we're not stopping the construction.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001718I just want to clarify, Your Honor, what we have questioned with the DPWH
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001719is the filling up of the area which is enclosed by the, with the slope protection and the C6.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001720And you didn't explain it?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001721Sir, eto ah.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001722Ay Secretary Dizon ang nagpapaliwanag.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001723Alam nyo po bakit, sir?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001724Kasi nung panahon ni President Pinoy, chief of staff ko siya.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001725So familiar siya dyan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001726Nung panahon ni PRD, presidential advisor on flagship program siya.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001727At parati niyang kasama ang DOTR at DPWH.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001728At nandyan siya nung napag-usapan yung project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001729Kaya alam niya.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001730Eto, sir, na kulay blue at kulay pula.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001731Yan ang re-alignance.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001732Yan ang re-alignance ngayon dahil kailangan ilayo ng 1 kilometer from the lakeshore.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001733Because kung hindi, sir, yung 1,300 hectares namin aano rin na.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001734At kung hindi gagawan ng lake ng park, sir, ano nangyayari pagka tapos tubig na?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001735In your experience?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001736Erosion.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001737Aside from erosion, binabahayan, di ba, ng tao?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001738Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001739Aside from binabahayan, tinatapo na ng basura, di ba, sir?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001740Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001741Pero pag may park, sir?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001742Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001743Completed na?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001744Completed lahat, di ba, sir?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001745May CR, walang nagda-dump sa tubig.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001746Yan yung purpose niyon, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001747Ang tawag diyan, linear park.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001748So, I don't take it against anyone who wants to investigate, who asks, may project.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001749Ang hinihingi ko lang, Mr. Chairman, I'll, I'll, ano, dahil I'm taking up too much time.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001750Hindi pa pwede mag-usap yung gobyerno.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001751Sir, we will, your honor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001752So, sa Friday, nandito si Secretary Vince Dizon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001753Can someone of authority sa inyo attend?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001754Para kayo mag-usap?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001755In front of all of us, para hindi kayo, di ba, he said this, he said this.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001756Kaya kayo mag-usap.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001757Your honor, if I may?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001758Yes, go ahead.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001759Actually, tama po kayo kung, kung finilap nyo, hindi po matatamba ka ng basura.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001760Going back lang po doon sa 2018 incident,
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001761actually, ang una po namin na, na, na, stop.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001762Is a filling up doon sa portion nung dulo po, na may basura po.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-001763Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001764I don't know where I remember you from eh, but your name is very familiar or you just have one of those names that are nice and easy to pronounce and everything.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001765But, this goes to everyone.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001766Hindi ba reputation is important?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001767Di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001768Kaya kami ni Senator Tulfo nagbabanatan din minsan, pero, you know, we try to then, we talk.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001769Why?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001770His reputation.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001771is important to him.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001772My reputation is important to him.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001773Who will speak for the city of Taguig?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001774So, pag sinabing may anomalya dyan, may titulo dyan, and this is dyan, et cetera, hindi po tao yung city eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001775Kaya ko tinanong, chairman, di ba, kung Manila yun, whether official ka o hindi, pag sinabing Manila ganito, Manila ganyan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001776So, yun ang problema, sir, kasi ang dami na sinabi about our city.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001777So, like, halimbawa, sir, sa titling, no, I mean, maybe si engineer.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001778Does the city have any, any, ano, participation in land titling?
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001779Sa proseso po, your honor, ay kailangan po namin ng concurrence po ng, ano, halimbawa yung city po, katulad po ng nangyayari.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001780No, but I'm saying, sir, di ba, if I'm a private, magpapatitulo ako, di ba, I either go to LRA or to court, di ba?
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001781Opo.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001782Opo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001783Wala namang participation yung city, di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001784Ang city ba nagpapatitulo?
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001785Your honor, bahagi po ng proseso ng pagtitulo po ay yung kailangan po na may SOP yan.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001786At kung ito ay pag-aay po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001787Sir, sabihin niyo yung SOP kasi sa media may ibang ibig sabihin ng SOP.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001788Pakisabi, sir.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001789Survey, survey po.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001790May survey.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001791May survey.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001792At in-administer po ito ng lisensyado pong judetic engineer.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001793Yes, not the city.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001794So, gagawa po ng plano yan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001795Sir, not the city.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001796At pag natapos po dito.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001797Yes.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001798Of course po, may pipirman po ng city.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001799Okay, kasi sa kanila po yung lupa.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001800Sorry po.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001801May pipirman po yung plano.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001802No, no.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001803You're talking about land that city owns.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001804Yes po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001805No, I'm talking about land titling in general.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001806Ganon din po.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001807Yung plano po ng lupa, kailangan po pirmahan nila, mag-concur po sila sa ginawa po ng judetic engineer.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001808So, may concurrence.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001809At yun po ang isasabit natin doon po sa DINR po, sa Land Management Bureau.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001810Sino ang pipirma sa city para sa land?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001811I have not.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001812Hindi pa ako nagpapatitulo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001813Nagpapatitulo ng lupa.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001814Sa media kasi, it's being communicated na para bang ang city ang gumagawa ng titlo.
PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.
asr-001815Your Honor, as per advice po na kasama ko, na dati ko rin kasamahan sa DINR, ay yung assessor po ang normally pumipirma po para sa titlo po ng lupa.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001816Yes, because the assessor, if you do not have a title yet, but you're paying the taxes,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001817then you will get the tax deck.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001818Diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001819And if you go, for example, sa Fort Bonifacio, nung binenta yan, there were several having tax decks for the same lupa.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001820Ganon din, may mga fake titles nun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001821Diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001822So, what I'm saying is that, if you're saying they're part of the process in the sense that you have to get the tax deck and you have to sign,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001823diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001824But, regardless, itabi mo yan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001825So, what does the city have to do kung may mga titlo dun?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001826Familiar ba kayo ng land titling sa Laguna Lake?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001827This is the second to my final, ano.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001828Sir, are you familiar with the land titlings upon the Laguna Lake area?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001829Di po, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001830Okay. I will familiarize you guys, para lang malinaw, pati sa media.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-00183160s, 70s, napasay yung Laguna Lake, diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001832Martial law, pwede kang PD, presidential decree.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001833Ang PD is the effect of law.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001834Diba? Because of Proclamation No. 3.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001835Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001836Sabi sa LLDA law, pag mababa sa 12.5 meters, automatically, it is owned by LLDA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001837It's under their jurisdiction.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001838At pag may lupa dun, sa kanila yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001839Nasa law yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001840Pero, even under PD 3, even under martial law, may constitution tayo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001841And the constitution says, you cannot take land without payment.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001842So, any...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001843Anyone who already had title nun, ay hindi pwedeng kunin ng LLDA unless babayaran nila.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001844Diba? Kasi may title ka na eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001845So, isang tabi na natin yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001846Yung mga may title before the LLDA law.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001847Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001848After that, nasubaybayan ko yan over the years.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-0018491992, I was 21 years old.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001850Conceal na ako sa tagi.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001851Ang nangyayari dyan usually, pag may nag-file sa RTC for title,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001852kwe-question yun ng LLDA dahil sa batas nila.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001853But, pag na-prove nung may-ari na sa kanya yun at na-grant ng RTC,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001854nung araw, inaabot pa ng Supreme Court.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001855But, I don't know when, if it was 80s or 90s,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001856naging desisyon ng LLDA,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001857pag nanalo sa RTC, huwag na natin habulin hanggang Supreme Court.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001858Kasi, talo na tayo sa RTC.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001859So, meron talagang mga titulo dyan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001860Again, I ask the question,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001861unless yung city ang nagpapasili...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001862What does the city have to do with all the titles there?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001863Kaya, nasabi ko sa media,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001864kung babawiin nyo lahat ng titulo ng lahat sa Laguna Lake,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001865pabor sa amin yun kasi gobyerno ngayon yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001866Pero, magkakagulo tayo sa lahat ng...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001867sa Torrens title.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001868Kasi, yung iba dyan, 20, 30, 40 years,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001869puwera yung fake.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001870Yung fake at any time,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001871ano ba ang...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001872ang...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001873pagka-fraudulent yung title?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001874Dalawa, di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001875Pagka yung fake, as in it's hindi totoo,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001876any time yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001877Wala yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001878Wala yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001879It's null and void.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001880Di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001881Pero, if you have a real title,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001882but through fraudulent means,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001883nakuha mo,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001884is it four years?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001885Four years from discovery?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001886Isa sa inyo is a broker, eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001887Nakita ko sa...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001888sa ano nyo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001889Sino yung broker sa...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001890Isa sa board nyo...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001891Hindi, oh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001892Mr. El Defonso is the director of the Bureau of Land,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001893for the longest of time.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001894So, maybe you can answer.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001895So, sir, pagka...
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001896ano,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001897tunay yung title,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001898pero fraudulent yung pagkuha,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001899di ba you can question it pa?
PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso
asr-001900Yeah, yes.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001901Isa.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001902For how long, sir?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001903Four years pa?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001904Or eight years, di ba?
PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso
asr-001905Walang prescription.
PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso
asr-001906As far as I know.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001907So, I'll go through it, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001908Pag everything is legit,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001909na-inform lahat ng katabi mo,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001910nasunod mo lahat,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001911may right ka talaga doon,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001912nagkatitulo ka,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001913everyone has one year
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001914from the issue,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001915one student title,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001916that is,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001917that is,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001918what do you call this,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001919publicized.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001920You have one year.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001921Kung hindi,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001922hindi mo na madi-dispute,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001923di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001924The exception is,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001925if you got it through fraudulent means,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001926then from discovery,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001927you have a time period,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001928I'm not sure,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001929four years.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001930There's a third kind,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001931fake title.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001932Walang prescription yun,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001933kasi null and void yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001934Fake yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001935Hindi totoo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001936Di ba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001937Oo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001938So, yun ang sinasabi ko,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001939Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001940Pasensya na.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001941If fake titles are going around
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001942and sasabihin yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001943there's a hundred hectares
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001944underwater na gano'n
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001945and that's a fake title,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001946kawawa naman mga taga LRA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001947Kawawa naman yung assessor.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001948Kawawa naman yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001949legitimate owners.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001950Nag-iisip sila lahat.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001951Kaya nung sinabing
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-00195217 hectares,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001953180 ba yun,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-00195470?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001955Hinahanap nung lahat eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001956Hinahanap nung lahat.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001957Pati,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001958meron yung titulo dyan
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001959na 18.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001960Hindi mga sumusulat formal,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001961kasi kasabihin,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001962nakikialam.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001963Alam mo kanino ako
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001964nagtatanong sa brokers?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001965Kasi sila nagbebente.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001966May bentahan ba dyan
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001967na last 5 years
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001968o na last 10 years
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001969nung 18?
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001970Mr. Senator,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001971Hindi po namin sinasabing
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001972fake title.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001973Wala akong kami sinasabing gano'n.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001974Ang sinasabi lang namin,
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-001975unauthorized po.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001976Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001977Ang problema, sir,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001978sa mga interviews,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001979sinasabi,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001980nagahalo na kasi.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001981Tapos,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001982sasabihin,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001983nakita na ng PRA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-00198430 hectares.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001985Nakita na ng PRA,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001986170 hectares.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001987Nakita na ng PRA,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001988may titulo,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001989underwater.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001990And hindi natin alam
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001991kung tunay yung titulo na yan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001992In the meantime,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001993bugbog na bugbog
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001994yung reputation ng city namin.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001995Again, I ask you the question.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001996who will talk for our city?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001997Diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001998So, sana na-realize nyo lang yung problema ngayon
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-001999and sana we're all just,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002000how do I put it, circumspect.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002001Now, kung totoo, sir, crucify.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002002Kung totoo, kung sino
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002003man ito manon, kahit na ako yun,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002004kahit na yung mayor, yung congressman,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002005kahit na sa first
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002006family, kung may gumagawa ng anomalya
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002007dyan, go ahead, sir. Pero habang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002008iniimbestiga, baka pwedeng
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002009may konti tayong circumspection,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002010diba? And then, secondly,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002011sana nga, sir, between,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002012I mean, although
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002013ang LLDA now is under
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002014DNR, tama ba,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002015sir, na once upon a time, it was under
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002016OP din?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002017Ang LLDA?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002018Alam ko, nag-ano din yun, eh. Umiikot din yun, eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002019But ang point ko is, once
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002020upon a time, you were under OP.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002021Ang LLDA,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002022I think it was, I'm not sure, ah,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002023pero ngayon, under DNR. Tapos, ang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002024chairman ng board is the
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002025DNR secretary. So, pareho
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002026naman kayong gobyerno, lahat naman kami magkukumplay, eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002027Pero,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002028i-synchronize nyo yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002029rules nyo. Hindi pwedeng sinasabi
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002030ng LLDA sa amin,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002031kami, sabi nyo, tapos
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002032may ipit. Last question.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002033Assuming,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002034kung sino man may jurisdiction,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002035under both rules
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002036of the LLDA and
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002037the DNR,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002038sino ang dapat kumuha ng permit?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002039Okay.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002040Sa reclamation permit, sir?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002041Reclamation and infrastructure
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002042that came about because of
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002043the unauthorized
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002044reclamation.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002044-split-2Sir, for the reclamation, sir,
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002045it's the proponents.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002045-split-2Yes.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002046And in this case, in Taguig,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002047we're talking about who?
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002048DPWH.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002048-split-2DPWH.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002048-split-3Yes, sir.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002049So, ang ugat ng problema natin,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002050hindi ang city, hindi
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002051ako,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002052hindi ko sino man, kung hindi, ang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002053kakulangan ng DPWH.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002054Pero, nung tinatanong namin sila, sabi kasi
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002055nila, sir, 20 years na kasi kaming
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002056eto yung proseso.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002057Pero, syempre, umaangal din
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002058yung LLDA. Pero, may hawak ako dito, eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002059Nag-issue din
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002060ng LLDA ng MOA
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002061between Taguig City,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002062LLDA,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002063DPWH, MMDA.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002064Meron din
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002065project ang Taguig City with LLDA
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002066and Department of Agriculture or the Bureau of
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002067Fisheries on the water.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002068Pero, hindi siguro reclaimed yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002069Kasi, high-tech fish pen.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002070Di ba? But, ang point ko, sir,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002071ba't naman hindi susunod lahat
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002072kung kayong magkaayos?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002073Pero, kung hindi,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002074so, for example,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002075sabi nyo sa budget hearing na to,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002076last na to, chairman, no? Sabi nyo sa budget
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002077hearing na to, hindi kami magkasundo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002078So, hindi muna kami gagawa ng project
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002079ng isang taon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002080Pababaya namin mapuno ng basura
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002081or ng informal squatters yung area.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002082No? Sir, kung taga,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002083sa DNR kayo at sir,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002084yung medyo familiar ka, alam nyo ba yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002085I'll close with this. Alam nyo yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002086lupang-ariyanda?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002087Have you heard of that?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002088Lupang-ariyanda?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002089Ha? Sir, yeah.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002090Go ahead, sir. So, that
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002091lupang-ariyanda is squatted
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002092area. Maraming mga informal
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002093So, chairman, ganito yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002094Bago pala ang congressman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002095May dispute kasi ang Rizal,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002096Taytay at Taguig.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002097Paglampas ng Rizal,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002098Pasig River. Sabi nila Rizal na yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002099Sabi ng Taguig, pareho naman tayong Rizal eh.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002100Naging Metro Manila. So, meron din kami
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002101dyan. Ang ginawa,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002102naglalagay ng
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002103stilts.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002104Tapos ang basura, sinusunog.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002105Sasabihin filling material,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002106nilalagay. So, naglakad ako
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002107doon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002108Five minutes na ako naglalakad.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002109Kasi naman nagtatambak dito.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002110Sabi, sir, tingnan mo yung doon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002111Pagpunta ko doon, wala pang bahay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002112Stilts.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002113So, lampas tuhod.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002114May tubig pa, basura.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002115Tinatapon doon.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002116Sabi ko, oh, ang liit naman ito.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002117Sir, lahat ng nilakaran mo
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002118for the last ten minutes, ganito yan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002119Natamba ka na.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002120Okay.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002121The next time na nabalita yan,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002122nagbangka. Bumaha doon
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002123ng grabe. Nagbangka doon si
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002124Senator Biason.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002125Iinanap ko eh, kung nasa YouTube pa.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002126Kung ina ako nagkakamali, that was sometime
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-0021272001. That was
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-00212825 years ago.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002129I'm not sure now if that's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-00213050, 100, 150 hectares.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002131So, gentlemen, pag hindi
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002132inayos yung lakeshore,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002133ganyan ang nangyayari.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002134And not only in the Philippines.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002135You go to Southeast Asian, any
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002136archipelago, kapag ka may
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002137kahirapan, ang tubig
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002138is one of the target areas
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002139na either
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002140nakastilts or ngayon
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002141na may pinagtatambakan.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002142So, actually, ang nangyayari sa tagig
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002143is to protect the lakeshore.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002144Kung hindi, puno na rin ang tao yun
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002145katulad nung nangyayari
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002146sa areyenda.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002147I won't say the barangay, but I can point to you
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002148a barangay na nangyayari pa rin hanggang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002149ngayon yun. Whether it's in
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002150Taguig or Rizal or
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002151anywhere else.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002152So, thank you for this time, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002153But I just wanted to say,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002154we can get to the bottom of any problem
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002155when we talk.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002156Diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002157Pero, wala man lang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002158nag-reach out sa inyo. Pag ako naman,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002159mag-reach out, baka sabihin,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002160tinatakot ko kayo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002161Onyx, never naman kita tinakot.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002162Takot nga ako sa tatay mo.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002163Diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002164So, anyway, I'm not gonna
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002165blame anyone and
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002166I do know emotions were high here in the
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002167Senate and it's time
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002168to move on and solve bigger problems
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002169of our country, including problems with our
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002170economy. But sana nga,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002171you can send someone, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002172I won't tell you to do this or to do that.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002173I'll just tell you, do the right thing.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002174Pero yun nga, sana, in the quickest
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002175possible time,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002176with the
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002177LLDA and si
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002178Secretary Vince Dizon. Kasi ang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002179LLDA, baliktad naman.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002180Meeting ng meeting sa amin,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002181meeting ng meeting
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002182sa DPWH at saka
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002183sa city, ngayon magbabudget
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002184hearing, ayaw na nila makipag-usap.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002185Hindi ko alam bakit.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002186Diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002187Go ahead, sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002188Your Honor, we...
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002189We're happy to
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002190inform the Chair and
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002191your Honor that we'll be having
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002192a coordination meeting with
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002193both LLDA, DNR
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002194and DPWH.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002195Open ba sa lahat yan?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002196Hindi ba dapat meron din
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002197taga-city? Let's invite
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002198everybody. Sir,
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002198-split-2yes sir. You're welcome, sir.
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002199We will welcome the participation
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002200of the LGUs. Your staff po is
PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal
asr-002201most welcome.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002201-split-2If there's anyone
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002202objective, bring them. Kasi
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002203kaso sa, diba? Ako,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002204kahit wala staff ko, pero yung city naman
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002205siguro, nung nangyari yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002206flood control scam, yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002207buong sinasabi ng
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002208national government, sana in-involve
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002209natin yung lokal.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002210Ngayon, parang
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002211ayaw natin yung involve yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002212yung lokal.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002213Eh, sila naman nakataalam
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002214doon,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002215sir. Diba? Okay. Kasi
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002216sir, I think it's
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002217about time because if you're
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002218aware, before the pandemic,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002219muntik nang magkaroon
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002220ng reclamation project ng between
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002221200 to 2,000
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002222hectares sa Muntinlupa
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002223and Taguig side ng Laguna Lake.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002224Meron pre-proposed dyan na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002225si, I think
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002226si Architect Palafox,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002227pero Rizal side na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002228airport. Binubuhay yun
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002229before binag-usapan yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002230Bulacan, I think it was
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002231packaged as possible, possibly
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002232a Manipakyao airport
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002233at the time. Pano ni
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002234Speaker Alvarez.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002235And then, etong 2021-
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-0022362022-23,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002237may lumalapit
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002238na gustong mag-present. So,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002239eventually, there's gonna be a proposal.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002240And,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002241kung sino man mas magaling sa inyo
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002242ng LLDA in assessing
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002243sustainability, public
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002244use, etc., okay sa amin yun.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002245Diba? So, Mr.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002246Chairman, I'll leave it at that and thank you
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002247for this. And I hope
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002248the ladies and gentlemen appreciate
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002249diba, yung
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002250ano to, July pa,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002251September na. Diba?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002252Kawawa naman yung mga taong
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002253napabanggit,
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002254naiipit, at kawawa naman
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002255yung seating hindi nakakapagsalita para
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002256sa, siguro eto, last na
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002257last na talaga. Nag-BBGC ba
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002258kayo?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002259Pumapasyal ba kayo sa BGC?
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002260Tagig, oh. Siguro naman nage-enjoy
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002261kayo sa city namin. Kaya si
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002262siguro naman, konting malasakit
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002263din pabalik sa isang siyudad.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002264Na nagmamalasakit
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002265din sa lahat. Thank you, Mr.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002266Thank you, Chairman Lopez.
Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano
asr-002267Po.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-002267-split-2Thank you and
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-002268sorry for any inconvenience
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-002269in the miscommunication, if any.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002270Thank you.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002271Thank you,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002272Minority Leader. Thank you.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002273Anyway, there
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002274being no other questions,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002275the fiscal year 2027
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002276proposed budget of the
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002277Philippine Reclamation Authority
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002278is now or will be submitted.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002279So, plenary consideration.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002280Subject, of course, to discussions
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002281and questions from my
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002282colleagues in the plenary.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002283I hope you'll be prepared by then.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002284And submission of
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002285requested documents. Thank you.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-002286Thank you, Senator Erwin.
PRA Chair Alex Lopez
asr-002287Thank you so much.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002287-split-2Yes, I would like to thank
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002288the officials and employees of the
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002289Philippine Reclamation Authority
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002290for their budget briefing to this committee.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002291And I would like to thank Senator
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002292Cayetano for
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002293attending this budget briefing. Thank you.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002294This budget briefing is hereby suspended.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-002295Maraming salamat po.