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CFO and PRA

Senate Committee on Finance · September 22, 2026

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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I apologize for the delay. I know we should have started at around three, but we had to go to the session hall because I had to sponsor several measures before the floor.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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So I do apologize and thank you for your patience and understanding. Well, let us now begin. Magandang hapon po sa ating lahat. The budget briefing for fiscal year 2007 proposed budgets of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas and the Philippine Reclamation Authority is hereby called to order. We will be joined by several of our colleagues later on.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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I would also like to thank and acknowledge the presence of CFO Secretary Dante Ang and PRA Chairman Alexander Lopez. At this juncture, may I ask the Committee Secretary to acknowledge our other resource persons in today's budget briefing?

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Committee Secretary

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Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. The Committee on Finance, Subcommittee H, would like to acknowledge the presence of the following:

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Committee Secretary

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From the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, earlier acknowledged by the Chairman, we have Secretary Dante Francis Ang II. Good afternoon po. We also have Undersecretary Maria [unclear] Borja. From the Philippine Reclamation Authority, also earlier acknowledged by Chairman Senator Erwin Tulfo:

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Committee Secretary

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Attorney Alexander Lopez, Engineer Cesar Siador Jr., Director Elio [unclear], Director Anthony Peter Crisologo, Attorney Jose Ferrer Jr., and Attorney Joselito Gonzalez.

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Committee Secretary

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Attorney Joseph John [unclear]. From the Commission on Audit for the Commission on Filipinos Overseas,

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Committee Secretary

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we have Mr. Fahad bin Abdul Malik Tumawis.

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Committee Secretary

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From the Commission on Audit for the Philippine Reclamation Authority, we have Mr. Marlon Marcadia. Good afternoon, sir.

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Committee Secretary

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From the Department of Budget and Management for Commission on Filipinas Overseas, we have Ms. Mary Rose Aguilar, good afternoon ma'am.

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Committee Secretary

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And also from the Department of Budget and Management for Philippine Reclamation Authority, we have Ms. Lulu Vizpo, good afternoon po.

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Committee Secretary

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I think that is all, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Thank you, Committee Secretary. I would like to acknowledge the presence of our Minority Leader, Senator Alan Peter Cayetano. Thank you, sir, for joining us this afternoon.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Anyway, for today, the Finance Subcommittee H will deliberate on the fiscal year 2027 proposed budgets of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas and the Philippine Reclamation Authority.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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As we deliberate on the 2027 budget,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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let us remember that every peso appropriated is a peso entrusted to us by the people.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Kaya dapat malinaw po saan napupunta ang ating pondo, ano ang resulta, at sino ang tunay na makikinabang.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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For the CFO, our starting point is equally clear.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Hindi lamang remittance ang ambag ng ating mga kababayan sa abroad.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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They bring skills, investments, ideas, networks, and most importantly, a continuing connection to the Philippines.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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For the PRA,

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we will look closely at the balance between development and environmental stewardship.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Reclamation and the development of public lands must be anchored on sound planning,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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economic value, climate resilience, and the long-term interests of Filipino people.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Hindi po sapat na may proyekto.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Dapat malinaw kung may tunay na pakinabang sa publiko.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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At the end of this deliberation,

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our standards should be clear:

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Translate into public value, measurable results, and meaningful services to the Filipino people.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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This is how we uphold fiscal responsibility and more importantly, maintain the trust that our people place in government.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Let this hearing therefore be candid, constructive, and focused on the outcomes.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Ang budget ay hindi lamang po numero sa papel.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Ito ay salamin ng ating mga prioridad at pananagutan sa mamamayan.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Thank you.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Let's proceed.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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But before we do that,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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I would like to ask our minority leader, Senator Cayetano, if he has any opening statement.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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I will follow your lead.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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You said to keep it clear, focused, professional.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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So, sa akin lang po yung biblical principle, kung anong ating itatanim, yan ang ating aanihin.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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And in that spirit, after the chairman, may I ask one or two questions?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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To the Honourable Secretary Dante, about Filipinos overseas.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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With that, let us proceed with our budget hearing.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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We will open the floor now for the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, if they have any or if they want to make any presentation.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Secretary Ang, go ahead.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Honourable Members of the Committee.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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With your permission.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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Sirs, I have a two-page opening statement and a five-minute video, if that would be okay.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Go ahead.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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Salamat po.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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Whenever stakeholders hear us, it is often followed by questions about our connection to our other migrant-serving counterparts and our scope of work.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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Put simply, the CFO's mandate is to foster diaspora engagement through programs and policies

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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that involve and empower our non-resident Filipinos.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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To participate in national development.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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NRF is our term for permanent migrants, expatriates, dual citizens, marriage migrants, as well as all their descendants and cultural exchange program participants in the U.S. and Europe.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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They are the reason why the CFO exists under Batas Pambansa 79 to serve migrating Filipinos and lead in the Brain Gain initiatives.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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The CFO ensures that NRFs are connected to the Philippines politically, economically, and culturally.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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The Philippines enjoys a competitive advantage.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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But Filipinos overseas need programs and policies that enable them to participate in development.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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First, the CFO serves the largest segment of our migrants.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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About 60% of the estimated 10.7 million Filipinos residing overseas fall under the CFO's

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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specific purview and require government services.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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This is more than half of the population, and they are vital resources for the Philippines.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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The diaspora, despite migrating long-term, continues to identify with being Filipino

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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and expresses an earnest desire to be involved in the country. Second is its economic significance.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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just like ofws our nrfs bring in a significant amount of remittances but they are hardly

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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recognized for this contribution. Our flagship diaspora program, Lingkod sa Kapwa Pilipino (LINKAPIL),

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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has facilitated more than 3.4 billion pesos in contributions over the decades.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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in relation the cfo's constituents not only give back economically as the chairman said

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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but they also provide knowledge and skills transfer to communities

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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we have done medical mission they have done medical missions capacity building workshops

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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and consultations with our partners

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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The LINKAPIL economic engagement program is one through which NRFs can help SMEs in

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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the philippines and support small-scale infrastructure third is harnessing political

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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and social capital. Our NRFs serve as informal ambassadors of our country,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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imbued with soft power some diaspora members are not only community leaders but they also

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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serve in key positions in governments overseas the cfo collaborates with these important

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figures

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and opens the way for business, social, and tourism ventures in the Philippines.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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the creation of the cfo in 1980 signaled a clear recognition that international migration

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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extended beyond labor mobility and required focused attention on immigrant populations

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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and transnational engagement our filipino diaspora summit last june brought together

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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nrfs from around the world and echoed the same sentiment it proved that the diaspora

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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is not seeking engagement the philippines in the abstract but rather with specific concrete

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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development opportunities provided by the cfo thus it are it is our intention to continue our mission

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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and ensure that the contributions welfare and interests of our permanent and long-term

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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migrants are not neglected. To facilitate our plans, the CFO is proposing a budget of 195.2 million pesos. Forty-eight percent,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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or 93.898 million pesos,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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will be allocated to personnel services, while 52 percent, or 101.302 million pesos,

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will be allocated for maintenance and other operating expenses, or MOOE.

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in terms of distribution by major program activity or project

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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73.26 million will be allocated to general administration and support or gas

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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the cfo assures that the budget shall be maximized to its fullest potential as evidenced by a previous

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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performance in 2025 we were able to obligate 91.36 percent of our of our budget with a

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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disbursement rate of 92.6 percent in the last seven years the cfo has maintained more than a 90

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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disbursement rate. In 2027, the CFO will not only maintain its regular programs such as BaLinkBayan,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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YouLeaD, Ugnayan, but also intensify campaigns for further diaspora engagement for national development.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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we plan to conduct outreach to overseas filipino organizations

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create development focus modules for the youth intensify our anti-human trafficking efforts

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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and bolster partnerships with other migration and development stakeholders

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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to help achieve our new goals we are also requesting an additional 88 million 764 000

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for the cfo mismo baling buy-in project continuing cost office productivity and our newly created for

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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filipino diaspora volunteer program supporting the cfo means strengthening our commitment to

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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every filipino whether they are at home or abroad so with your permission mr chairman i now show

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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a brief video to summarize all of these proposals

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Around the world, millions of Filipinos have built lives, careers, and communities. With them is a vast reservoir of knowledge, expertise, networks, resources, and a continuing desire to contribute to the Philippines.

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For many, the question is

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not whether

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they want to help,

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but how, where,

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and with whom

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they can make a meaningful contribution.

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This is where the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, or CFO, comes in.

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CFO connects Filipinos overseas with credible programs, communities, government institutions, and partners

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through which they can remain engaged and contribute to the country's development.

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Around 6 million non-resident Filipinos or NRFs live across the world

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as permanent residents, naturalized and dual citizens, spouses and partners of foreign nationals,

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descendants of Filipino migrants, exchange visitors, and other migrants under the Commission's mandate.

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Across countries, citizenships, and generations, one bond endures.

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Dugong Pinoy

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CFO strengthens the political, economic, and cultural ties of Filipinos overseas with the Philippines

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and facilitates their meaningful participation in national development.

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For Filipinos overseas who want to remain connected and contribute to the Philippines,

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CFO provides concrete ways to take part.

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LINKAPIL connects NRFs who want to give back with channels for supporting local development.

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In 2025, the program facilitated 14.4 million pesos in donations from 2,835 overseas donors,

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benefiting 17,698 Filipinos in 17 provinces and the National Capital Region.

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Beyond immediate assistance, CFO encourages contributions

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that address

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longer-term development needs

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and strengthen community resilience,

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turning bayanihan across borders into concrete action.

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BaLinkBayan

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reconnects Filipinos overseas with their places of origin,

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working with LGUs to link diaspora investments, expertise, community initiatives,

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and other forms of participation with local development needs.

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CFO also engages succeeding generations through Philippine schools overseas,

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YouLeaD,

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and the Virtual Centro Rizal, strengthening Filipino identity and their connection to the homeland.

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Ugnayan brings CFO services, programs, and diaspora engagement initiatives directly to Filipino communities overseas.

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CFO also brings NRF perspectives into policymaking,

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helping ensure that diaspora concerns are reflected in government policy and migration governance.

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PESO Sense strengthens financial literacy, supported by a digital community of 3.9 million followers and nearly 800,000 SAVERS Group members.

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Together, these programs represent one of CFO's defining roles, our second frontline,

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which continues after Filipinos have established lives overseas.

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Here, CFO helps reconnect the diaspora with the Philippines and channel their knowledge, skills, networks, investments,

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philanthropy, and other resources toward national and local development.

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In this way, migration becomes a continuing circulation of knowledge and resources,

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helping transform brain drain into brain gain through diaspora engagement.

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CFO's work also begins before migration.

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At our first frontline, we prepare and support Filipinos as they build new lives overseas.

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In 2025, CFO served 81,859 Filipino migrants,

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and program participants across its pre-departure, counseling, au pair, and exchange visitor programs.

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CFO also protects migrants through the 1343 Action Line and its advocacy and coordination work against trafficking in persons.

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As migration continues to evolve, so must the way government reaches and engages Filipinos overseas.

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CFO is strengthening its digital services, BaLinkBayan, critical information systems, and overseas reach

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through

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honorary diaspora representatives in selected communities.

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These initiatives will make government services more accessible and enable more Filipinos abroad to connect, participate, and contribute to the Philippines.

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As the Filipino diaspora continues to grow and evolve,

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so does the importance of keeping the Philippines connected to Filipinos wherever they may be.

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CFO brings the global Filipino community closer to the country's development needs,

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and brings credible avenues for participation,

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closer to Filipinos wherever they are.

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CFO translates public resources into programs and services for Filipinos overseas.

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In 2025, the Commission posted a 91.36% obligation rate and a 92.60% disbursement rate.

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For Fiscal Year 2027, the CFO has a proposed budget of P195.2 million under the National Expenditure Program.

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Additional resources

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will allow CFO to reach more Filipinos overseas,

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strengthen program delivery,

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expand digital access,

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and deepen diaspora engagement for national and local development.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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We can take questions now.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Thank you, Secretary.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Let me turn over the mic now to our Minority Leader,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Senator Allan Cayetano.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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As we were discussing, Mr. Chairman,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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together also with Senator Rafi Tulfo,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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we were discussing the Department of Migrant Workers, Secretary Dante.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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The original version that, at least the one I filed,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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first in the Senate and then in the House of Representatives,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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when it was passed, I was in the House of Representatives.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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The original version was not Department of Migrant Workers.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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It's a department for overseas Filipinos.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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The idea then was God works in mysterious ways.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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So 2008 or 2009, I visited the UK.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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A very good finance person and ambassador, Ambassador Espiritu, entertained me.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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His joke was that he was fired because of GMA after I visited him.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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He brought in a couple of young people.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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And realistically, if you saw them,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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maybe one looked very Filipino.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Two, may hint ka na tatay, nanay, lola nito Pilipino.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Yung tatlo akala mo Indian, British Indian.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Yung isa akala mo Chinese, British.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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But all of them had Filipino blood.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Then he said to me,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Senator, these are the ones who have money.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Because they are the grandchildren.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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So yung migrants, yung lola nila, nurses, engineers,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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may [unclear] diyan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Talagang lahat ng klaseng hirap.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Pero yung magulang nila nakapag-aral na sa mga UK schools,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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British universities,

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with a good salary.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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But these ones, they are in the top schools.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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At yung mga graduate nito, pinag-aagawan na.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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So they are in good company.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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But most of them have never visited the Philippines.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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So he wanted to point out,

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he thought of a program.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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He said, yes, it's a good program.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Let's say in Hong Kong,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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if your boss wants to join,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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it's a plus one visitor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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And Hong Kong is just nearby.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Or if you're an engineer in Saudi,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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and you want to sell a different vacation spot from the usual,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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Eh marami din namang Muslim Filipino,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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so kino-consider din.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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But compared, for example, to Dubai,

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Indonesia, Malaysia,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

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medyo hindi tayo first, second, third choice.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000397

So we put that in the bill.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000398

Unfortunately, some members at that time,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000399

even in the budget,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000400

I'm looking at your budget,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000401

one particular person,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000402

I won't name him because he just has an idea.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000403

He's not here in the Senate.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000404

He said,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000405

why should we spend for people

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000406

who are no longer Filipinos?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000407

Right?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000408

Without,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000409

he didn't see the flip side.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000410

He didn't choose,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000411

when he was born,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000412

that they are now apos,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000413

and their parents

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000414

are no longer Filipinos by citizenship,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000415

but Filipinos by blood.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000416

And later on,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000417

the dual citizenship was passed.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000418

And to some who do not own,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000419

or have no land here,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000420

and his whole family is in the US,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000421

in Europe,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000422

in Japan,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000423

in Korea,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000424

there was really no incentive

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000425

to have dual citizenship.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000426

And there are some countries,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000427

like Japan,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000428

I know a Filipino-Japanese,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000429

he said,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000430

Sir,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000431

here,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000432

when we ask,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000433

we need to answer in Japanese.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000434

Unlike in the US or the Philippines,

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000435

when you ask,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000436

you can say that you are a dual citizen.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000437

Okay.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000438

So my point,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000439

Mr. Secretary,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000440

is that

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000441

at the end of this year,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000442

the law creating the

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000443

Department of Migrant Workers

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000444

will trigger for early next year

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000445

a review.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000446

And both Senator Tulfos have said

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000447

that they will spend time on that.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000448

And I just want to lay that on your feet

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000449

because you're in the cabinet.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000450

Look at the interplay of

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000451

because it's complicated enough

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000452

what is with the migrant workers,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000453

what is with the DFA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000454

Then you will add more Filipinos

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000455

overseas.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000456

And I was looking at your programs,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000457

magaganda,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000458

katulad nung mga pre-depart,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000459

yung PIDOS,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000460

yung sa DFA,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000461

may paos din sila aside from PIDOS.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000462

But if I look at the flip side,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000463

I'd like you to,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000464

I'd like you to have programs

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000465

in the US,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000466

in the UK,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000467

in France,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000468

getting these young Filipinos

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000469

to get to know their country by black.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000470

by origin. And you'll be surprised

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000471

Senator Tulfo, there's

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000472

what year was that?

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000473

If I'm not mistaken, I was

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000474

either a new senator or congressman

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000475

pa ako. So around 2007-2008

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000476

we went to South Africa

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000477

and the embassy

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000478

brought Filipinos to us

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000479

and they were there since

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000480

late 1800s

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000481

and they were asked

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000482

how did your ninunos

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000483

get here? Sabi na sir

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000484

1800s pa lang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000485

nagsustokwa na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000486

yung mga Pilipino sa mga ships

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000487

tapos kung saan may opportunity

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000488

doon. So yung mga lolot-lola

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000489

namin, nasa mga

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000490

ships, galleon trade, whatever

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000491

it is. Alam naman

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000492

natin galleon trade

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000493

Mexico, through Mexico

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000494

then Spain. But

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000495

may mga ganun talaga. But

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000496

because the embassy there

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000497

tuwing may bibisita na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000498

Philippine delegation, ipapakilala

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000499

but sa iba, nawawala

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000500

yung institutional memory.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000501

I remember in 2007-2008

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000502

or 2009

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000503

first time ko sa Ukraine

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000504

very very different

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000505

when we went to a new hotel

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000506

may gumaganon na chef

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000507

kasi nasa gitna, yung open yung kitchen

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000508

nasa gitna ng hotel, gumaganon

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000509

takan-taka yung mga tao

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000510

tapos sabi nung honorary consul

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000511

no no, we have about five

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000512

uh

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000513

Filipinos here.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000514

How did they get here? Well, some went

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000515

to Europe, some went to Russia

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000516

basta somehow Filipinos find

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000517

the way. Parang tubig

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000518

kahit anong harang mo sa dam

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000519

and everything, hahanap yung Pilipino.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000520

So I promise the chairman, maikli lang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000521

So I do

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000522

want you to have the budget you need

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000523

but vis-a-vis

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000524

the programs that will

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000525

bring in

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000526

not only funds

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000527

not only

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000528

uh put it another way, no?

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000529

If there's gonna be a revival

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000530

of Filipino culture in the same

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000531

way that nung nagkaroon ng K-drama

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000532

K-pop, di ba?

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000533

Nung I remember

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000534

when I was a new congressman

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000535

1998, pagpunta ka ng

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000536

Malaysia, Thailand, yung mga DVD

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000537

or VCD pa ba yung pirated nun?

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000538

Mga dinab na Filipino

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000539

movies, di ba? Then sumikat

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000540

ang Bollywood and then

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000541

later on sumikat na yung Korea

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000542

but one of these days, whether it's

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000543

Filipino food, whether it's yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000544

ube ngayon abroad,

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000545

whether it's

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000546

our traditional hilot

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000547

in the massage,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000548

whether it's our family

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000549

oriented culture,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000550

one of these days, magkakaroon

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000551

ng renaissance din ng

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000552

what is Filipino and with more than

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000553

10 million Filipinos abroad,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000554

I think your

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000555

commission

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000556

needs an

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000557

upgrade all around.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000558

Personal, resources,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000559

programs, etc. So sa

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000560

US alone,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000561

at least when I was in DFA, they said 6 million

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000562

ang tingin nilang

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000563

may Filipino heritage.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000564

Halo na daw yun na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000565

TNT

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000566

totally Americano na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000567

dual citizen and everything.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000568

So that's not a small number.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000569

Can you imagine if 10% of them

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000570

travel to the Philippines,

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000571

that's 600,000. If each

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000572

of them may isang anak or may isang asawa,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000573

na hindi

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000574

of Filipino descent,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000575

that's 1.2 million. Ang highest

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000576

atin-atin sa tourism is

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000577

around 1.6 million, which is

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000578

I don't know if it's Koreans now or the Japanese.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000579

But my point is

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000580

for every tourist that comes in, for every

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000581

two tourists, two to three,

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000582

one Filipino job is created here.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000583

And like me,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000584

on my

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000585

mother's side, my grandfather

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000586

is German

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000587

American, but I've never

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000588

been to the island which is in the

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000589

boundary of

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000590

France and Germany.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000591

I've never been there.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000592

I've never been in Germany per se.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000593

But if the German government

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000594

had a program

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000595

and I got to go there 30 years

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000596

ago, maybe every five years

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000597

pumupunta.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000598

Wala pa akong nakitang pute

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000599

na turista na may

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000600

opportunity na pumunta ng Pilipinas once

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000601

na hindi bumalik.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000602

In fact, if you look at let's say si Becoming

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000603

Filipino, si Kulas,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000604

he opted not to

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000605

leave anymore.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000606

We have a number of US personnel

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000607

when we had US bases.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000608

They married here

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000609

or some remarried

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000610

and did not leave anymore.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000611

I know at least a few

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000612

ambassadors who

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000613

got married to a

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000614

Filipina after their assignment here

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000615

but they plan to

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000616

come back. So I leave it

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000617

at that thought na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000618

if you can have a program to get

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000619

people of

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000620

Filipino blood

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000621

to be more conscious of their

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000622

motherland than to get

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000623

them here, I think we shouldn't

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000624

be short-sighted in parang ano yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000625

immediate na babalik sa atin.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000626

Di ba kasi magtatanim ka talaga ng

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000627

matagal-tagal.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000628

I mean if you look at the Tulfos for example,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000629

I grew up knowing

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000630

yung eldest nyo si

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000631

Mon Tulfo at

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000632

the time hindi pa SOCMED. It was really

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000633

inquirer ba?

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000634

Di ba inquirer?

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000635

But parang sa bilis ng panahon suddenly

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000636

silang magkakapatid. Ibat-ibang shows

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000637

pero suddenly popular

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000638

sa lahat. Di ba? So

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000639

tanim lang ng tanim eh. Then you wake

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000640

up one day nandoon.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000641

So you might be the right. May timing

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000642

din eh. May timing. I mean

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000643

what I'm saying now is not original.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000644

It's probably also from people

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000645

in your commission who I heard

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000646

years ago or

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000647

people from DFA who gave a couple

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000648

of ideas.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000649

The last point I wanna make is that

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000650

the few trips that I did

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000651

make as DFA Secretary,

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000652

ang dami pala talagang official na

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000653

Pilipino. Di ba? Whether sa

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000654

US ay met nun yung Soljen

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000655

who was

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000656

Filipino din. Of course

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000657

yung mga actors

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000658

and sports, baseball,

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000659

basketball marami. But

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000660

sa New Zealand

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000661

di ba meron isa na tumakbo

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000662

sa Parliament.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000663

I don't know now. But ang point ko

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000664

lang sir, mahirap

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000665

makialam sa politika ng ibang bansa.

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000666

But just connecting

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000667

whether it's New York City, Daly City,

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000668

whether it's in Hawaii na maraming

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000669

Pilipino. I think that's

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000670

invaluable para sa

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000671

sa atin. So dati kasi

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000672

susulat ka pa, te-telegrama, mahirap

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000673

makontakt. Ngayon ma-meet mo

Source

Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000674

lang at may relationship ka. Whether sa messenger,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000675

WhatsApp, Viber,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000676

you can keep in touch. Yung iba nagro-group

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000677

chat pa. And the younger they are,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000678

the more open they are to

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000679

to

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000680

to keeping in

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000681

touch and then to visiting each other's

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000682

country. So I did

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000683

most of the talking but I'd like to support

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000684

a bigger budget in the plenary.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000685

But I think to do that

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000686

and para hindi tayo

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000687

ma-accus ng insertion yun,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000688

there has to be a program.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000689

But I really think whether it's

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000690

basta kung saan pinakamaraming Pinoy

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000691

was looking nandito sa

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000692

whether it's

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000693

US or yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000694

Pinoy pero

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000695

how do I put it?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000696

Tinatarget natin sila na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000697

visit the Philippines pero

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000698

hindi sila necessarily

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000699

gagastusan mo kasi pupunta rin

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000700

naman sila ngayon. So obviously

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000701

if OFW sila, may

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000702

programa na sa kanilang POEA or

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000703

whatever. So

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000704

Mr. Chairman, yun lang yung aking

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000705

input and

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000706

my way of supporting

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000707

the present programs by talking about

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000708

the other side, aside from

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000709

yung...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000710

We do have a...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000711

So like my mother,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000712

she didn't take Filipino citizenship

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000713

pero nag-retiree.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000714

So

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000715

and for example, Dumaguete

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000716

is always in the top five,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000717

top three, top five

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000718

best place to retire in the world.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000719

Habang paganda ng paganda

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000720

yung Clark, I think

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000721

pala...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000722

So many places in the Philippines that could really

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000723

be place for retirement

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000724

or even for young people to

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000725

study, baka pwede din sa commission

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000726

nyo yun na parang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000727

study in the Philippines or

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000728

do a summer in the Philippines or

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000729

put up a business in the

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000730

Philippines, retire in the Philippines. Thank you

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000731

Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000732

Thank you, Majority...Minority

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Leader. Isang question

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000734

lang po, Secretary. I wanted to question

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000735

how many have you

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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served the CFO? How many

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000737

Filipinos or

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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permanent residents have you served

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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last year?

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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Mr. Chair,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000741

about 70,000 po go

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000742

through our office for the pre-departure orientation

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000743

seminar. But as our

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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presentation showed po,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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we are looking to see how

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000746

the Honorable Minority Leader said,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000747

how we can also engage them to

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000748

come back to the Philippines in various ways.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000749

I'm glad po the Minority Leader

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000750

brought up that very interesting program

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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and he may be

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000752

glad to know po that the CFO

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000753

has the youth leaders in the

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000754

diaspora program. This has been a decades

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000755

long program where

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000756

we invite young

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000757

members of the Filipino diaspora

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000758

to come to the Philippines

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000759

to learn about our culture

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000760

and heritage.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000761

Nagsimula po yung program na yan

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000762

sa Lakbay Aral. Pero

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000763

over the years po, we

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

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inserted leadership

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000765

training components

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000766

so that hindi lang po siya po

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000767

to resume.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000768

But importante rin po yan.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000769

So,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000770

we haven't yet quantified po yung

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000771

pabalik, but the ones outgoing po,

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000772

about 70,000 po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000773

Okay, thank you.

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CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II

asr-000774

Thank you.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000775

Do you have any more questions? You're good.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000776

Well, anyway, there being no

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000777

other questions, the fiscal

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asr-000778

year 2027 proposed budget

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000779

of the Commission on Filipino Overseas

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000780

is now being submitted for

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000781

consideration, subject to

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000782

the discussions and submission of

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000783

requested documents. Thank you,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000784

Secretary. And the CFO delegation

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000785

is now permitted to leave the venue.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000786

This budget briefing of

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000787

the CFO is now over. Thank you.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000788

Budget briefing is suspended.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000801

exclude ourselves to 80,000 events that have more than 20,000 participants, because the biggest exhibition center we have now is 18,000. Yung MOA po, ang PICC is 10,000, of course on two venues, and ang World Trade is

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000802

14,000. Yun naman pong Philippine Arena, wala pong hotel, hindi maka-attract po ng international MICE events. So this will be colossal trade fairs. From the past and now, we had to turn away events because of the lack of facilities. Marami ho tayong tine-turn away. We will open ourselves and unlock the ability to host world rotating

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000803

association congresses and global trade fairs. It will be a 140,000-square-meter main venue. The building will be [unclear] square meters and will be the biggest in Southeast Asia. For example, Singapore Trade Expo has a 120,000

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000804

square-meter area, but they attracted 1.5 million participants. A 140,000-square-meter venue at an industry standard 50 to 60 percent utilization rate could reasonably attract an additional 300,000 to 500,000 delegates.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000805

Nung nagpe-present po kami sa Nether Board, tinanong po, "Malaki naman yung halaga ng building ninyo. Bakit hindi na natin ibigay sa Department of Tourism yan?" Sabi po ng Department of Tourism, sila na sumagot para sa amin: "Your Honor, we would rather have the PIEC that will bring in the tourists." Right now, a regular tourist spends 6,000 per night, per day.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000806

Karamihan po ngayon ng tourists, mga backpackers, mga estudyante. But a tourist will bring in 30,000 dahil funded po sila ng korporasyon nila, ng gobyerno nila, and they will set up booths. This influx would represent a [unclear] increase over pre-pandemic baseline arrivals, [unclear] the Philippines into a top

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000807

global destination. Ngayon po tayo sa [unclear] because we only get [unclear] tourists. PIEC's return on investment is [unclear]. One is PIEC's economic effects. The PIEC is designed to generate economic value beyond

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000808

its immediate project. It will be a powerful catalyst for growth across sectors: commerce, tourism, real estate, transport, [unclear], services, IT, hotels,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000809

shopping, restaurants, transport. It will not only [unclear] national taxes but local taxes. Number two, the PIEC will hasten real estate growth. We anticipate significant [unclear] from local and [unclear] partners, increasing appraisal of our own

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000810

real estate. Alam niyo po dito sa MOA, Financial at Entertainment City, it took us 49 years for [unclear] casinos, [unclear] hotels, tens of thousands of units and millions of square [unclear] for commercial and cultural purposes. May simbahan po, etc.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000811

Hindi na po natin [unclear] 49 years. This will be an anchor tenant, and we believe we are already attracting inquiries from hotel owners. From 62,000 per square [unclear] ang valuation ng lupa two years ago when we conceived PIEC, at nalaman po internationally,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000812

the value po ngayon, the last sale in the newly reclaimed area is already [unclear]. Sa appraisal value pa lang po ng Republika ng Pilipinas, the Republic owns [unclear] of the newly reclaimed land and about 400,000 [unclear].

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000813

So it is a total of about [unclear]. This appreciation in land value, the PIEC's ability to [unclear] property assets, enhance [unclear], create jobs and generate a stream of government revenue, a strong foundation for future investments and broader tax base and urban development.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000814

As one of PBBM's legacy and flagship projects and infrastructure, PIEC is set to be a substantial source of government revenue stream over the next 50 years, a conservative estimate contribution to the national government of at least P422 billion based on PRA projections confirmed by the DOF, the NEDA, and the ICC.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000815

This is conservative. The Ways and Means has estimated a higher value, the Congress Ways and Means Committee, which we are gladly to give you.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000816

This long-term revenue position, PIEC, as a sustainable revenue source for government, reinforcing the financial infrastructure needed to fund essential government services.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000817

Ngayon po,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000818

when we assumed office, 38 billion lang po noong November 2023, 38 billion lang po ang assets ng PRA.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000819

Ngayon po, 228 billion na.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000820

And soon, we project it to be 400 billion.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000821

And when we reach the full potential, that is when, kasi hindi naman natin pwede ibenta ng wala sa halagang ang lupa natin.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000822

So when it reaches full potential, maybe two, three years from now, then doon po talaga makikinabang ang Republika ng Pilipinas.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000823

So, impact on future generations.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000824

The PIEC will serve as a foundation for job creation across various industries and forge stronger partnership within and across the border.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000825

By delivering large-scale and integrated paradigm for development, the PIEC will broaden the landscape of office.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000826

The PIEC will broaden the landscape of office.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000827

The PIEC will broaden the landscape of office.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000828

and showcase our greatest assets, our people, our culture, and stand as an enduring testament and its endeavors.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000829

The project will be located on 81,000 square meters, owned by the PRA within the Pasay City Harbor Reclamation,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000830

a newly reclaimed land within Pasay City, and it's part of a Pasay Eco-City coastal development,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000831

which is about 6.5 million square meters.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000832

Ang natituluhan na ho dito, 135 hectares.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000833

This year, we expect another 225.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000834

And next year, the balance of 3 million square meters po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000835

We are growing very fast, completing the projects very fast.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000836

It will be connected to the mainland by 15 bridges that will be construed to be fully funded,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000837

by the private sector, wala pong gastos ang gobyerno rito.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000838

It will have 88 kilometers of road, it will have 120 kilometers of sewer lines and flood control,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000839

and 22 kilometers of revetment.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000840

So yung sinasabi po nila, mawawala yung dagat po, yung isa pong project natin, yung SM,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000841

pinaatras po ni Presidente ng 500 meters para magkaroon po ng gap between Sofitel area

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000842

and the newly reclaimed area.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000843

Kaya makikita niyo po that we will have 22 kilometers of new coastline.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000844

And lahat po ito, libre sa gobyerno.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000845

We will have 88 kilometers of bike lane, sidewalk, free electricity and water lines to the government's

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000846

3 million 100 square meters.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000847

We will have 312,000 square meters of parks and green spaces, all free of charge.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000848

This is made possible by the funding of the private sectors.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000849

The immediate implementations of these projects have been accelerated through the construction

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000850

of the PIEC.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000851

Dahil may deadline po tayong minimit, lahat po nag-a-apport ngayon.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000852

Makikita niyo sa mga pictures, nandyan na po yung mga tulay, ginagawa na po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000853

Nandyan na yung mga kalye, ginagawa na po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000854

Seven of these bridges will be completed before the targeted date, completion date

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000855

of the PIEC.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000856

As for before, wala ho silang date.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000857

Ngayon po, binilisan po namin para ma-jumpstart at umabot sa PIEC.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000858

Currently, we can benchmark PIEC against Singapore's 1.5 million tourists, Expo-level utilization,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000859

Canton-style trade orientation.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000860

Of course, we cannot compare because they have a huge, huge competition.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000861

Canton Exhibition Center and Bangkok Po, which has 1.2 million exhibitors last year.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000862

Through the infrastructure presented earlier, we can develop PIEC and its immediate environs

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000863

including transport, utilities.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000864

The PIEC is an exhibition and convention center envisioned to capture the growing demand

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000865

for meetings, incentives, conventions, and exhibitions.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000866

Tourism in Southeast Asia.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000867

Kami po sa PRA, we are positioning ourselves not to be a mice for Philippine products and

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000868

people and events and meetings, but we want to steal some of the, sorry for the word po,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000869

we want to take some of the tourism from Singapore, which has 1.5 million mice participants

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000870

in Singapore Expo alone in Thailand.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000871

We are confident we can do this.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000872

One quick question, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000873

Ano po ang specific competitive advantage ng PIEC natin na wala sa existing convention and exhibition facilities

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000874

sa isang bangsa?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000875

At ano po magiging dahilan para piliin ng international organizers ang PIEC natin

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000876

kaysa sa ibang venue sa Southeast Asia, Singapore, Thailand?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000877

Sorry.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000878

Unang-una po, mura po ang labor dito.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000879

Mas mura ang hotel natin sa Singapore at sa Thailand, lalo na pag nadatingan na ho yung mga mice tourists.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000880

Ang nagtatayo po ng boots dito, mura po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000881

And this will be a novelty for this exhibition.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000882

Alam nyo naman, marami ho dito sa nag-e-exhibition po, junket ang hinahanap.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000883

Hindi naman pwede puro Thailand, Singapore.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000884

At Japan at China lang sila.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000885

So marami po rito nag-o-open.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000886

In fact, we have already had...

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000887

Some inquiries on this, no?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000888

Patanong ko lang din po, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000889

May projected number na po ba ang international conventions, exhibitions, events na inaasahan po natin na dadalhin po ng PIEC kada taon?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000890

Ano po ang assumption at saan nyo po nakuha itong projections na ito?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000891

Ang projections po namin, nakuha namin sa Department of Tourism po at data from Singapore and Thailand po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000892

1.5 million po ang nakuha po ng Singapore Expo last year.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000893

And Singapore Expo is only 120,000 square meters.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000894

And Thailand which is 240,000 square meters, nakakuha po ng 1.2 million.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000895

Of course, these are developed, we cannot compare.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000896

So we go at a very low level sa umpisa po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000897

Kasi 140,000 po ang makakuha lang tayo ng isa o dalawang event na kalahati po noon.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000898

Di 140,000 tourists na po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000899

Spending at an average of 30,000, malaki na po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000900

So, this will be the largest in Southeast Asia with 243,000 square meters.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000901

And we would like to thank the President for his vision.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000902

In thinking of...

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000903

To engage in MICE.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000904

So, at least we are thinking big in economics.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000905

So, it aims to represent the country as a nation that is international in its outlook and ambitions

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000906

with a desire to engage with the global community and foster connection.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000907

The PIEC aims to be a catalyst, not only of MICE events, but a meeting place to showcase not only Philippine products,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000908

culture, arts, history, and culture.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000909

But also the Philippines' plan to position itself as a meeting place and trading center of Asian products, culture, people, history, and tradition.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000910

The PIEC being the biggest exhibition center in Southeast Asia and having the cheapest cost, skilled labor, friendly and English-speaking population,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000911

and cheap booth construction, and cost to produce.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000912

These events, for MICE events, among countries with big exhibition center, enhances the reputation of our Southeast Asia.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000913

Alam niyo po, we had recently signed with the late Docs Kua a memorandum for the League of Governors to give all the provinces 50 square meters to exhibit their indigenous products.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000914

And we are signing with the cultural center dahil kulang daw sila ng exhibition spaces.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000915

And with the PIEC, PICC, another MOA po para po makapag-exhibit ang cultural center.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000916

Mr. Chairman, let me cut you there.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000917

Dito lang po ba nakasentro sa inyong presentation sa PIEC na project, ang inyong presentation this afternoon.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000918

Otherwise, if we will just be...

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000919

We will be centered on spend most of our time explaining PIEC.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000920

Ako pa tatanungin nyo, buhay benta po ito.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000921

I mean, mabenta po sa akin.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000922

Kung tatanungin nyo, okay po ito.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000923

But I have a few questions and of course, our minority leader would also ask questions.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000924

We will be happy to answer.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000925

Mabilisan lang ito. I hope pa, hindi na po tayo tatagal sa PIEC.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000926

Maganda po yan.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000927

Yung kanina po nag-usap tayo, pinipresent yun sa atin.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000928

It's a pride of our country, sir.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000929

Tanong ko lang po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000930

Is it expected po ba na self-sustaining itong PIEC o kailangan pa rin natin na annual government subsidy?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000931

Wala na po. Wala na pong government subsidy.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000932

In fact, ang sagot lang po ng national government dito ay yung building lang po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000933

Yung pang-furnitures, fixtures, yung mga equipment, yung mga ano, will be shouldered by PRA, yung parking lot po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000934

Not the personnel.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000935

Of course, kailangan po natin mga electricity dyan, water, personnel, pasweldo.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000936

Ilan tao po ang kakailanganin nyo dyan?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000937

Dapat po lahat ito, naka-breakdown.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000938

On a small scale, all the exhibition centers naman make money.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000939

Kasi talagang in demand po, katulad po nung eskwelahan po ng misis ko po, in Lyceum,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000940

they only have 3,000 graduates.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000941

Hindi sila makapag-graduate po ng sabay-sabay.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000942

At iniimbita nila isa lang po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000943

Kasi wala po tayong exhibition center.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000944

At malaki po ang binabayad ng bawat isa po na makapaupa po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000945

And you multiply this all over, baka sa Pilipinas lang po, fully jump-pack na po ito.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000946

Kasi ang dami talagang, kulang talaga tayo ng events places.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000947

As you will know, CSM po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000948

Yung opisina po nila, kinalahati nila, giniba nila para makapagtayo ng another exhibition center.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000949

Yan, makikita nyo po. Manggaling dito, papunta sa Moa.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000950

Giniba po nila yung offices nila para makapagtayo po ng exhibition center.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000951

Ganun po kalaki ang demand na exhibition.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000952

At ang pangulo po natin ay hindi magpapahuli.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000953

At nauna po, with this vision, we commend him for...

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000954

for coming up with this project and we are supporting it po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000955

Alright, Mr. Chairman. With the indulgence of our minority leader, okay na po sa inyo.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000956

Para sa akin eh. Okay na po itong presentation ng PIEC or you have questions pa about PIEC?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000957

20 pages na lang po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000958

Joke. Joke pa, boss.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000959

Go ahead po. Go ahead po, minority leader.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000960

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000961

Actually, yung questions ko ay para kay GM at assistant GM.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000962

But on this lang, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000963

Um...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000964

First, eto, public service din. Parang radio program ni Senator Tulfo. May nagpapatanong.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000965

Yung Las Piñas wetland park land title, kailan daw po itatransfer ng PRA to DENR?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000966

See, there was a bill.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000967

There was a bill to have it transferred.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000968

And I think it was passed by Congress and the Senate.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000969

But the President po vetoed the bill.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000970

At hindi na po itatransfer.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000971

So, it will be kept by PRA?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000972

Opo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000973

Sige. So, malamang yung follow-up question neto sa plenary na, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000974

At least natanong ko lang.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000975

Second, Chair.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000976

Sir Chairman, so tama po ba ako?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000977

So, yung iniingin yung total na 27 billion will be doon sa development netong PIEC?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000978

The building lang po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000979

At this budget, dumaan lang sa amin as a subsidy.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000980

Kasi kami ang may-ari.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000981

So, kayo may-ari nung lupa?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000982

Hindi lang ng lupa. Pati ho nung project.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000983

Hindi nung mga kami ang magpupuno dahil may konti nga kaming cash.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000984

So, that's what I wanted to clarify.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000985

Yung lupa na na-reclaim is yung share nyo sa ibang projects.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000986

So, rather than flipping it or selling it or bidding it out,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000987

you want to see if, yun nga, given such a ambitious good project,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000988

you can...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-000989

you can do it this way.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000990

With your indulgence, not only that,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000991

biglahong tumaas ang presyo po ng lupa namin.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000992

Kasi this is only 80,000 square.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000993

We still have 3 million.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000994

Nung nilagay namin ito...

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000995

And even the other developments.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000996

Kasi kahit sabihin mong competitor sila,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000997

pag ganyang kaganda yung katabi,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000998

tumataas.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-000999

Diba? Like when ginawa yung Santa Rosa or ginawa BGC,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001000

ginawa Rockwell,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001001

automatically tumataas din yung mga katabi.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001002

64.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001003

24,000 nga po, two years ago, ang appraisal sa amin.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001004

Ngayon po, ang appraisal, 300,000 na po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001005

Marami na pong bumili.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001006

24 hectares na po ang nabili after we have a...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001007

So, last two questions.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001008

May...

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001009

Just to support your question kanina,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001010

Senator Caetano.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001011

Yung sinasabing nyo po na 27 billion,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001012

for your information, minority leader,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001013

actually, 6 billion po ang inilabas

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001014

sa unprogrammed appropriations po ng 2024 GAA,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001015

some appropriations po ng 2024, ga-a.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001016

Tapos, nagdagdaga ng 6 billion naman,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001017

contingency fund ng 2026, ga-a.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001018

So, total na po,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001019

tapos sumingi po kayo nga ng 5 billion for 2027.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001020

So, that will be 17 billion.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001021

Ang estimate po, 27.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001022

So, kulang pa po ng 10 billion.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001023

Is that what you're saying?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001024

Nasaan na po tayo ngayon sa construction?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001025

Ilang percent?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001026

Madagdag-dagdagan ko lang po yung katabi.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001027

We are...

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001028

Alam nyo naman po,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001029

construction is an S-curve.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001030

Mabagal po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001031

Ang akyat niyan,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001032

nasa 11% po tayo.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001033

But the DPWH,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001034

we have a program of expenditures

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001035

signed by the DPWH.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001036

Hiningan po namin sila.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001037

Sila po ang nagsabi nitong pangangailangan na to.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001038

Sila ang nagprogram sa amin

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001039

kasi kami, daanan lang ng pera.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001040

Hindi ko malaman, sila nag-bid.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001041

I think what the chairman means is,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001042

so how much do you need for 2027?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001043

Five lang po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001044

Five.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001045

And then 2028, five ulit.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001046

Ten po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001047

Pero according to DBM and to Secretary of Public Works,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001048

and upon my request,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001049

ililipat na ho namin sa kanila

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001050

kasi tumatagal yung ikot.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001051

Although three days lang sa amin,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001052

ayaw namin hawakan ho yung pera.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001053

Kasi gusto namin talaga maging successful ang uto

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001054

kasi napakaganda po sa bayan ito.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001055

What's the completion date nito, Mr. Chairman?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001056

When are we looking at?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001057

April.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001058

April 2028.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001059

So we have already several events lined up

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001060

for April and May 2028.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001061

No, on that point,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001062

hindi madali maghanap ng pera.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001063

But on that point,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001064

kung hinahabol ng April 2028,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001065

hindi ba too late kung yung 10B 2028 pa ibibigay?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001066

Kasi given certain delays and everything,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001067

katulad ngayon, it's September.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001068

Malaki po dito retention po, sir.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001069

They will have retention

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001070

and I think the construction's final billing

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001071

will not be released

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001072

until they have fully completed.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001073

So in your estimation, walang delay

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001074

basta't mabigay yung 5B in 2027?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001075

Opo. At kung kakapusin man,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001076

ay mangungutang po kami,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001077

babayaran na lang po nung makukuha ang budget sa 2028.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001078

So the next question I was going to ask is,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001079

in general, I know there are a lot of components,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001080

but are you saying,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001081

and of course, kayo naman ang Philippine Reclamation,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001082

authority,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001083

that okay naman ang reclamation,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001084

basta't number one, it's for public purpose,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001085

two, it's sustainable,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001086

and it follows with the environment?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001087

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001088

Hindi lang sa pasa yan?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001089

Hindi po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001090

I'm sure, kahit nasaan ka, private sector, PRA,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001091

mal na mal mo ang siyudad mo ng Manila.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001092

Opo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001093

So basta't public, sustainable?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001094

Opo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001095

Kahit sa tagig?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001096

Opo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001097

Okay, very good.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001098

So after that, Mr. President,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001099

I have some questions for the GM.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001100

Go ahead.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001101

With your permission, Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001102

Mamaya na ako sa second round.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001103

The reason why I want to ask the Chairman,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001104

just because sila yung pumirman ng mga letters and everything.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001105

So magandang hapon sa PRA family.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001106

Congressman Crisologo, nice to see you again.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001107

Sir, takidefine lang ang reclamation.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001108

Your Honor,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001109

sa aking pagkaintindi po sa reclamation ay isa pong pamamaraan na

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001110

tinatambakan po yung tubig at makikita,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001111

magkikreate po tayo ng lupa para ito ay gamitin for a certain postponement.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001112

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001113

I won't argue with that, Tinagalog mo,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001114

but actually sa NEDA-PRA Joint Order No. 01-2015,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001115

January 12, 2015,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001116

PRA's EO No. 74, Series 2019,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001117

the deliberate process of converting foreshore land,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001118

submerged areas of bodies of water,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001119

into land by filling or other means using dredge fill

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001120

and other suitable materials,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001121

for specific purposes.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001122

Correct.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001123

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001124

Next question po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001125

Are you familiar with the West of Manggahan flood control project?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001126

What's it?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001127

Flood control project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001128

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001129

So you are not familiar with that.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001130

That is a March 1997 project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001131

Okay. That is a March 1997 project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001132

That is a 9.411 billion yen ODA project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001133

Is the PRA familiar with the Taguig C6 road dike project?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001134

Your Honor,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001135

pangatloon taong po ko pa ito kasi hindi ko pa po alam kung

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001136

nung pumasok ako dito ay meron na po yan mga control project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001137

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001138

So are you familiar of the development of the Taguig C6,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001139

26 road dike and West of Manggahan project

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001140

between 2007 to 2009?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001141

Pasit siya na po, Your Honor.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001142

Hindi po ako familiar.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001143

Are you familiar of the opening of the roads

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001144

and the development of the retaining channels

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001145

and the pumping stations during Pinoy's time from 2010 to 2016?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001146

Hindi po, Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001147

Are you familiar that Secretary Vince Dizon,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001148

Secretary Mark Vigilar,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001149

Secretary Diokno visited and went in one of the landing sites

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001150

in that project and said napakaganda nito doblehin natin

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001151

from two lanes gawin natin four lanes in 2018?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001152

Your Honor, kung yun po ang sinasabi po ng ating Department of Public Works and Highways,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001153

sumasangayon po ang PRA sa mga development.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001154

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001155

So are you familiar that in the year 2020 kasama si Congressman Crisolo,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001156

there was a 14 billion allotment?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001163

Para gumawa ng right-of-way or flyover from the Laguna Lake going to a certain highway of the San Miguel Corp.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001164

That was unacceptable to Taguigenos because more than 10,000 houses would have been demolished and there are more than 1,000 ancestors.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001165

Are you familiar with that?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001166

Your Honor, again, hindi po ako familiar.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001167

Okay sa akin kung hindi ka familiar doon.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001168

Meron po kaming kasama dito po si Attorney Literal na siya pong nauna sa amin dito sa kanyang...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001169

Okay, I will transfer to him. Please feel free to interject anytime.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001170

But siguro ang unang lesson sa inyo, huwag kayong pipirma ng sulat or magsasalita kung hindi ka familiar.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001171

Di ba? Di sana ang sumulat at ang magsalita ay yung siya.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001172

Noted.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001173

Atty. Joseph Literal, sir, are you familiar with the West of Manggahan project?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001174

Sir, yung sa flood?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001175

Yes, it's a ODAF project sealed by Secretary Vigilar and then implemented during GMA's time na.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001176

Secretary Datumanong, are you familiar?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001177

Yes, sir, pero hindi po.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001178

As PRA po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001179

Okay.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001180

But I'm familiar.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001181

You're familiar.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001182

Opo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001183

Kasi, but sir, kayo galing kayo DNR, di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001184

Sino pong galing DNR?

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001185

Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001186

Kailan ka nag-NCR, sir?

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001187

DNR po, 1986 po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001188

Oh, matagal ka na.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001189

Pero sa Environmental Management Bureau po ako natin.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001190

Okay, okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001191

So, sir, are you familiar that there were three possible alignments of the Manggahan floodway?

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001192

Sir, I'm just familiar with what is existing.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001193

So, the three alignments was inland, tapos yung sa tubig, tapos doon sa yung present alignment ngayon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001194

So, are you familiar with the present alignment ngayon?

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001195

The C6, Your Honor?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001196

Yes.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001197

Ilan hektarya ng existing land, hindi for land.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001198

Existing land is outside the dike.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001199

Hindi pa ako familiar sa exacto.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001200

Pero ang dami nang lumalabas sa news na iniimbestigahan niyo, 90 hectares, 170 hectares, hindi niyo man lang kinokorek ang media.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001201

How many hectares is outside the dike?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001202

Your Honor, actually, we have used the GIS.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001203

Since when yung GIS?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001204

Ginamit niyo yung ano, di ba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001205

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001206

From when?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001207

Sir, we're doing...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001208

Yes, what date?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001209

Since early 2000 until present.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001210

Okay. Ano ang sinabi sa akin ni Secretary Vigilar nung 1999? Do you know?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001211

Hindi. Not aware.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001212

So, he told me, hindi ko muna sasabihin sa iyo kung ilan daan hektarya, na pag ginawa yung dike as is, mag-eerode yung lupa. Kasi nasa labas siya ng dike.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001213

So, will your aerial show the historical land-ownings of LLDA or will it only give you a partial picture?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001214

Your Honor, actually, the GIS and the satellite viewing using the backtracking on the years,

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001215

it would only show not what is shore land or other areas but only what has been submerged before and what is now covered.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001216

Yes, noong 2000.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001217

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001218

O ano bang taon ang batas ng LLDA? 1960s, 1970s? O gano kalalim ang lake ng 1960s? Alam mo? O more or less 30 feet, more or less 10 meters. Gano kalalim ang Laguna Lake ngayon?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001219

Sir, about 3 or 4 meters.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001220

Gano kadaming puno na naputol sa Laguna at saka sa Luizal?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001221

Honestly, wala po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001222

Gano karami na nag-eerode?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001223

So, tanungin ko sa inyo ngayon, are you familiar with torrents, land titling?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001224

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001225

So, kung nagkaroon ng torrents, meron siyang land title 30 years ago, walang nag-dispute, walang problema.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001226

Dahil nagka dike, tumaas yung torrents.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001227

Tumaas yung tubig, nakuha yung part ng tubig. Is that now not a titled land anymore?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001228

Sir, it's still a titled land.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001229

But sa media, anong pinapalabas?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001230

Did you make those qualifications sa media na we're still looking, na marami kaming hindi alam dyan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001231

Sir, we just gave an estimate on the area which were previously underwater,

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001232

which are now dry land, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001233

Vis-a-vis what? You don't even know how many dry land was there historically.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001234

Nandun sa papeles ng JICA, sinubmit sa JICA, 27 years ago, 1,300 hectares.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001235

There is 1,300 hectares of land outside the lake.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001236

I do not know how much is titled or not because hindi naman ako LRA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001237

Diba? O, let me continue.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001238

So, do you agree with the definition of the GM dun sa reclamation?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001239

Yes, Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001240

Okay. Yung binasa ko, tama?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001241

That's under our policy, Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001242

So, are you familiar with the 2007 construction of the C6?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001243

Sa road dike?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001244

Yes, Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001245

Okay. Are you, 2013, panahon ni Pinoy, are you familiar with the development there?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001246

With the project, the lakeshore project which did not push through, yes, Sir, Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001247

Diba pa yun? 2015 yun. Yun yung C6 na 8 lanes, diba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001248

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001249

Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA yun?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001250

Binid yun, diba? Hindi lang natuloy.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001251

Yes, Po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001252

Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001253

Hindi, Po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001254

How about yung Manggahan-Cladway? Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA yun?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001255

Hindi rin, Po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001256

Pero do you classify that as a reclamation?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001257

Yes, Sir. Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001258

Pero hindi kumuha ng permit sa inyo?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001259

Yes, Po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001260

Okay. So, sa yung panahon ni Pinoy na hindi rin kumuha?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001261

Hindi, Po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001262

Okay. Sa House of Representatives, tinanong sa inyo whether or not in other parts of the Laguna Lake, Rizal, Laguna,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001263

kung kumuha ng permit sa inyo sa reclamation, meron ba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001264

Wala, Po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001265

Wala? As of now, wala?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001266

Wala, Po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001267

Okay. So, pero pag meron reclamation doon, na nakita niyo ngayon, kahit siya ay sa gobyerno, you will ask the DPWH to stop it?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001268

No, that's part of our complete stop work, Your Honor. Hingi po kami ng records and then we'll have them comply.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001269

Oh, did you ask the DPWH for the records for the Tagalog?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001270

Yes, Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001271

And then, kailan niyo sinabing cease and desist?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001272

Even before that, Sir, meron na po kaming show cause on the Laguna Lakeshore Road Network.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001273

Kanino niyo in-issue, Sir, ang show cause?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001274

Sa DPWH, Po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001275

Do you have a copy?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001276

We have a letter since 2024.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001277

2020?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001278

Four.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001279

Two?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001280

2024?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001281

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001282

So, kay Secretary Bonoan pa lang?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001283

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001284

Okay. So, pinatigil niyo rin ba yung Laguna Lake Road Network?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001285

Your Honor, we asked for the details and whether there is a reclamation and then they answered that it's just a road network and they are making sure through PRA that there would be no reclamation.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001286

Very good. Can I see the picture of the LLRN?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001287

Kaming po dito.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001288

So, take note, Mr. Chairman, Mr. GM. Sabi ng Deputy GM niyo, kapag katagig, kailangan may complete staff work. Kailangan kunin lahat. Pero pag ibang part ng Laguna Lake, okay lang yung sabi-sabi ng DPWH. Hindi niya hiningi yung papers eh. Sinabi niya, okay lang sa inyo na tanungin lang sila.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001289

At ang sinabi daw, there is no reclamation.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001290

Ano tawag mo sa kulay pula at kulay blue na yun? Which is about anywhere between 100 to 100 meters from the shoreline to 1 kilometer from the shoreline. Ano tawag mo dyan? 8 lanes yan sa tubig gagawin. Hindi reclamation yan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001291

Actually, Your Honor…

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001292

Nasa website yan ng LLDA.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001293

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001294

Nasa website yan ng DPWH.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001295

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001296

So, hindi reclamation yan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001297

Reclamation.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001298

Sa definition niyo, reclamation yan, di ba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001299

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001300

So, sa iyo hindi reclamation yan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001301

Reclamation, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001302

Bakit hindi niyo in-issue ng cease of business?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001303

Sir, there is…

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001304

Kasi hindi tagig yan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001305

Ano, Sir?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001306

Sabi mo kanina eh, kapag meron kayong nakita, ipapa-full staff work niyo. Sabi niyo, ang tagig, pinul staff work niyo.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001307

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001308

Nung tinanong ko sa iyo, paano naman yung Laguna Lake Road Network, tinanong mo lang sa DPWH. At sinagot na walang reclamation. Ano tawag mo?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001309

Sir, there is…

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001310

Ano tawag mo diyan, Sir? Sagutin mo nalang tanong ko, please. Ano tawag mo diyan? Hindi ba reclamation yan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001311

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001312

O, under your definition, reclamation yan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001313

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001314

O, ba't hindi niyo isis and desis?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001315

Actually, Sir, they have committed to realign, redesign the project…

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001316

They're not. They're building it already.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001317

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001318

O, they're building it already.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001319

Sir, yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001320

How many times bigger yan, yung pinag-uusapan natin sa tagig?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001321

Sir, they would be complying with our requirements.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001322

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001323

How will they comply with your requirements? While they're doing it now, they're building.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001324

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001325

Hindi ba requirement niyo bago mag-reclaim, kailangan kompleto pati sa checklist?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001326

That's for regular reclamation, Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001327

O, ano ba itong tawag sakali?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001328

But there are instances wherein this had been approved by the government, but because they did not go through the PRA process, they would have a post facto compliance.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001329

No, no, no, Sir. Huwag mo akong bulahin.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001330

Huwag mo akong bulahin. Yung post niyo, binasa ko yung rules niyo.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001331

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001332

Ang sinasabi dito, kapag ka ang national government or local government ay nag-reclaim at unauthorized, pwede silang mag-apply na mapunta sa kanila. Hindi ibig sabihin na pag wala silang permit, pwede lang ituloy-tuloy.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001333

So, you have to decide now. Do you have jurisdiction over LLDA or not? If you have, then you have to stop all of the illegal reclamation.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001334

Ongoing ngayon yung DPWH project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001335

Na damuhala ang laki compared sa tagig. Na hindi nag-submit sa inyo ng feasibility study. Na hindi nag-submit sa inyo ng environmental study. So, you will ignore that? Bakit?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001336

No, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001337

No, you're ignoring it now. You're not asking them to stop it.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001338

Sir, we are now coordinating.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001339

No, no, no, no. You're not coordinating. You do not have a letter to cease and desist. You do not have a letter to show cause.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001340

Sir, we have a letter with the DPWH.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001341

Telling them to stop it.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001342

Telling them to stop it.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001343

And then they also filed, Sir, the information about the LLRN, Your Honor. It's part of our CSW at present.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001344

Okay. Sundan ko, Honorable Board, sundan ko logic ng inyong deputy. So, kung yan ang gawin ng tagig, wala na tayong problema?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001345

Sir, yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001346

So, pag sinubmit nila yung information, tapos pinakita nila ng gobyerno.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001347

Sir, we'll go through the process, Your Honor.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001348

Of the regularization of the unauthorized projects.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001349

Okay. So, I'll ask you. Hindi sinasubmit sa inyo ng DPWH kasi sa Friday nandito sila. Sino proponent ng LLRN?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001350

Sir, it's Laguna Lake Development Authority and DPWH.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001351

No, no, no. No, it's DPWH.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001352

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001353

Okay. O, sino ang proponent ng mga sinisist and desist nyo sa tagig?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001354

DPWH also, Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001355

O, sila din eh.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001356

Kaya po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001357

O, so you're, no. I want to get information from you now.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001358

So that I can confirm.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001359

So that I can confront them on Friday.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001360

So, you're telling me now sa LLRN.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001361

Sila po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001362

Nagko-coordinate sila. Pero sa tagig projects hindi sila nagko-coordinate.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001363

Sir, nagko-coordinate din po sila.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001364

O, eh bakit mo sinisist and desist yung isa? Nagko-coordinate na pala eh.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001365

Sir, that's part of the cease and desist order.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001366

No, I'm trying to see, Sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001367

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001368

If you're doing selective justice here. You have two projects. One is more than ten times bigger. One is ten times smaller. Same proponent.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001369

One is even more useful than the other. May gumagamit na ba nung highway ngayon?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001370

Nung LLRN, Sir?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001371

Oo.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001372

Wala pa po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001373

Oo. So, wala pang public use yun?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001374

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001375

Sir, with your permission, Mr. Chairman. This is a one-minute video. Can you show the one-minute video?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001376

Yes?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001377

Yes, Sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001378

O, Mr. Literal. That is the linear park na ginagawa ngayon. That is public use. Hindi private yan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001379

Pag Christmas, 30,000 people a night dun sa 2 hectare na yan. Pwera pa dun. Okay. Hindi ba yan ay public use?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001380

Hindi.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001381

Okay. Yung tinap niyo, shophouses.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001382

Ano pa?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001383

Shophouses. Singapore. Lahat ng Pilipino sinasabi, sanang may ganito tayo sa Pilipinas. Ginagawa ngayon. Yung katabi, I'm not at liberty to tell you who designed it. He's one of the best designers in the country na environmentalist na ginagamit ng national government.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001384

Ang katabi na susunod na gagawin ay yung parang fund to make sure na walang erosion para sa environment.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001385

Did you know that yun ang isang STINAP niya?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001386

Did you know that?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001387

No, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001388

Have you ever written the city of Taguig to ask about the project?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001389

Sir, we have written the city of Taguig last October 2025.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001390

No, no, that's not my question. My question is, have you ever written the city of Taguig to ask them about the projects?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001391

About the lots.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001392

Okay. Ang sinasabi mo, nagsalita ka sa bilyonaryo, ang sabi niyo po, sir, may show cost order kayo sa city.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001393

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001394

Can you show me sa letter, saan nakalagay dito show cost?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001395

Binasa ko yung letter pa ulit-ulit. Ang nakalagay dito, ma'am, pakibigay yung mga tito.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001396

Ang nakalagay dito, ma'am, ano yung project? Wala pong nakalagay dito show cost. Wala po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001397

Ang nakalagay dito, itong mga lupa na ito may titolo, pakita titolo sa PRA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001398

Ang nakapirma po dito, sir, kayo po. Kaya kayo po tinatanong kasi taga-DNR po kayo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001399

So, balikan ko yun, sir, ha?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001400

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001401

Sir, kung magtatanong tayo ng titolo, saan po tayo magtatanong?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001402

Ang mga titolo po ay hinahawakan.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001403

Hinahawakan po ng Land Management Bureau.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001404

Okay. So, alam nyo ba, sir, na inibitahan ng staff ko si chairman sa opisina ko nung sinulat nyo ito?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001405

Opo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001406

Alam nyo kung anong sinabi namin?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001407

Hindi ko po alam, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001408

Sabi namin, ayaw namin magmukakay yung incompetent sa PRA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001409

Kasi, sino ang susulat sa mayor para humingi ng titolo?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001410

Hindi naman po registrar of deeds ang asawa ko, eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001411

Ang mayor po, hindi naman na ano, eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001412

Ito po, project ng DPWH.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001413

Lahat ng lupa po na nandyan ay pagmamay-ari ng LLDA under a Republic Act.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001414

Kaya nung pagdaan ni chairman, if you remember, chairman, sa plenary wala po kayo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001415

So, hinanap ko po kayo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001416

Dahil matagal na kaming magkaibigan nung pamilya ni chairman, pati nung tatay niya ay kaibigan na kaibigan ng tatay ko.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001417

Ang kapatid niya ay kabatch ko, di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001418

Ang mga pinsan niya, kaibigan ko.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001419

Pagdaan sa office ko, tinanong lang, sir, ano problema?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001420

At tinanong ko ng staff ko, sir, ba't kayo nagtatanong ng titolo sa mayor at may problema ba dito?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001421

Kaya sabi niya, hindi, mag-coordinate na lang.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001422

At sinabi ng staff ko, sir, ang magko-coordinate, DPWH, kasi hindi naman po project ng tagig yan, eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001423

Project ng DPWH.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001424

Kaya ang tinanong pa nga ni chairman, kailangan ko ba maghintay dahil birthday nung anak niya?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001425

At tinawagan ako ng staff ko, sabi ko, hindi, hindi.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001426

Kaya ako lang sila gusto makausap para linawin sa budget, pero kung namamadali at kung mag-uusap-usap naman lahat ng opisina natin, bakit hindi?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001427

Tama, chairman? More or less?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001428

More or less lang, di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001429

Oh, so meron po ba akong pananakot sa PRA?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001430

With the indulgence of the minority leader.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001431

I just have two quick questions.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001432

Oh, go ahead.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001433

Very quick lang.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001434

I would like to address this to the PRA.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001435

When is the approval of PRA needed for reclamation project?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001436

Can any one of you answer that?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001437

Attorney literal.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001438

Kailan ika nga ang kailangan ng approval ng PRA para sa isang reclamation project?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001439

When?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001440

Sir, under our present, they need approval in all types of reclamations for whatever purpose, Mr.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001441

Okay.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001442

So, actually, lahat kailangan.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001443

Hindi kailangan na yung approval ng DA, hindi kailangan.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001444

Kailangan lahat.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001445

Pag reclamation.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001446

Yes, sir.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001447

Alright.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001448

One last quick question.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-001449

What does Taguig need para ikang malift yung ikang cease and desist order?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001450

Sir, wala.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001451

Sir, may CDO po kami sa DPWH.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001452

Sa Taguig City po, yun lang pong letter na yun, Mr. Chair.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001453

And your honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001454

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001455

Pasensya na po kayo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001456

I'm not emotional at you.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001457

Ang tagigin nyo, more than 500 years na.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001458

Before 2003, even nung impeachment ni President Erap, kumulan ng October hanggang January, baha kami.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001459

Wala kaming mga main road.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001460

Buti ang Makati, may Buendia, may Makati Avenue, may Pasay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001461

Diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001462

Nagawa lang yung Cayetano Boulevard.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001463

Tapos itong General Santos.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001464

Doon sa tinatanong ko sa inyo, kung pamilyar kayo doon sa isa.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001465

So, pag pinag-usapan ang syudad namin, you can investigate.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001466

Everyone is open.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001467

Actually, Mr. Chairman, I'll take the opportunity, kahit sa colleagues natin.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001468

I'd like to be magnanimous.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001469

I thank them for bringing up this issue.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001470

Ang issue ko ay sa DPWH at LLDA at saka sa inyo, tatlo kayong gobyerno.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001471

Ba't hindi kayo mag-usap?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001472

So, attorney, nakausap mo na ba si Secretary Vince Dizon?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001473

Yes po.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001474

Actually, sir, hindi.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001475

Yung USEC po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001476

Sinong USEC po?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001477

Sir, for the LLRN, it's USEC sa Dain.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001478

For the Taguig Project.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001479

For the Taguig Project, it's the USEC for the District Engineer, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001480

Hindi pa kayo nagkaayos?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001481

Hindi pa nasubmit lahat?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001482

Sir, nasubmit na po sa amin.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001483

Eh, bakit? Meron pang cease and desist order.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001484

By the way, Mr. Chairman, walang pondo yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001485

Kaya kahit hindi nyo sinis and desist, may isa lang na tinatapos na project doon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001486

At yung nasa dyaryo na nag-aayos, bumagyo kasi, nagpaalam sila sa DP na ayusin para hindi bumaksak.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001487

Kasi tinanong ko rin eh, sa DP, ano nangyayari sa inyo?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001488

Kaya yung sinabi ni Secretary Dizon na I'm ordering cease and desist, inorderan niya, sarili niyang tao eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001489

Kayo ang nag-order sa kanya.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001490

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001491

Diba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001492

Sir, sa amin, sir, sa DP daw.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001493

Agree.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001494

So, kalukuhan yung pag-order niya sa sarili niyang tao kasi siya ang inorderan nyo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001495

Okay, number two.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001496

So, wala naman siyang isi-cease and desist doon sa haba na pinapakita sa media.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001497

Kasi hanggang ngayon, yung 2026 budget, hindi nila binibid at hindi nila nilalabas.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001498

So, wala rin siyang umumpisahan kasi wala rin kontratista na natutuloy doon sa ibang project riyon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001499

Having said that, sir, what about sa City of Muntinlupa?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001500

Did you write them also?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001501

Yes, yes.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001502

When did you write them, sir?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001503

Sir, the report was part of the...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001504

More or less lang, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001505

More or less lang.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001506

Anong year yun?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001507

September 2 ng 2025.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001508

How about the part...

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001509

Sir, 2026, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001510

2026.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001511

Okay, 2026.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001512

So, in anong year?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001513

So, in 2015, 2010, 2020, hindi nyo sila sinulatan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001514

Sorry, sir. Wala pa ako po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001515

Hindi nyo ba check-in muna bago nyo sulatan ng isang syudad?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001516

Sir...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001517

Do you have any institutional memory?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001518

Meron ba ditong sa legal nyo na napakatagal na nandyan sa PRA?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001519

Di ba ang PRA, ang batas nyo, 1977?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001520

So, before 2025, sumusulat ba kayo sa anywhere in Laguna Lake?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001521

I will go to my point, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001522

To your memory.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001523

Hmm.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001524

Meron ba, sirs, ma'am?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001525

Institutional memory.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001526

So, we can go back to that, ha?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001527

Pasig rehabilitation.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001528

Sinulatan nyo to stop?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001529

To get a permit?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001530

Tingnan nga natin yung picture ng Pasig Rehabilitation.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001531

Pasig River Rehabilitation Project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001532

O, yung part na yan na hanging over the water.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001533

Di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001534

Di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001535

Di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001536

Under your definition, reclamation yan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001537

Sir, kapag naka-stilts, hindi po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001538

O.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001539

San sa regulation yung nakalagay?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001540

Kasi wala, sir, permanent dumping, ano, lahok filling up.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001541

Eh, yung stilts?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001542

Hindi po siya, hindi po siya, ano, doon sa definition ng filling up po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001543

O, so, anything na stilts, hindi?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001544

Hindi po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001545

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001546

Eh, yung part na, ano, in-extend from the side ng river.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001547

Kung one meter lang yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001548

Assuming, assuming one meter.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001549

Sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001550

Um, ang kailangan po namin muna, your honor, is yung, kung, yung survey.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001551

Kaya nga.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001552

Because sometimes.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001553

Kina ba kumuha ng permit sa inyo?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001554

Ano po?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001555

Kumuha ba ang Pasig Rehabilitation?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001556

Ah, hindi po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001557

Hindi.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001558

Hindi rin po.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001559

Hindi rin po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001560

So, by the way, Mr. Chairman, ha, baka magkamali, ha.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001561

I support the LLRN.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001562

I support the Pasig, the, the Malacanang is doing a very good job in that.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001563

This is what I want to point out.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001564

Pagka tagig lakeshore,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001565

sinisilip nyo lahat.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001566

Pero pag Pasig River, hindi.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001567

Pag ibang parts ng Laguna Lake, hindi.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001568

So, balik tayo sa Laguna Lake.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001569

Sino ang may jurisdiction sa Laguna Lake?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001570

Sir, actually, sir, we have overlapping jurisdiction with LLDA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001571

Sige po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001572

Kayo, sir, lawyer, di ba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001573

Yes po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001574

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001575

When you have overlapping jurisdiction, you look at its source.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001576

Tama, sir?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001577

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001578

So, your source is your law and the law ng LLDA?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001579

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001580

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001581

And has LLDA in the past ever signified that they have exclusive jurisdiction over the Laguna Lake?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001582

Sir, they have, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001583

They have, di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001584

And has PRA respected that?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001585

Actually, we secured opinions from…

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001586

No, no.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001587

Sagutin mo muna tanong ko, then we'll go to that.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001588

No, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001589

So, it is only in 2025 that you first…

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001590

When you first started to write everyone to try to assert jurisdiction, tama po ba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001591

Hindi po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001592

Kailan po?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001593

Before 2025, kailan kayo sumulat?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001594

Actually, sir, ano yung OGCC?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001595

Sir, as early as 1995, we already, because of the overlapping jurisdiction, we already secured an OGCC opinion.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001596

Because we're both clients of the OGCC.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001597

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001598

What about the DOJ?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001599

Okay. Between an OGCC and DOJ opinion, what will prevail?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001600

Sir, DOJ.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001601

Okay. So, what does the DO… May DOJ opinion na ba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001602

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001603

Ano sabi ng DOJ?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001604

Sir, kailangan, sir, i-harmonize. There are no conflicting provision. Kailangan lang, sir, harmonization ng tulos.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001605

Which one yun? Anong resolution ang sinasabi mo sa DOJ?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001606

Sir?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001607

Sir, sir, sa DOJ opinion pala, such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, yun nga.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001608

Sir, sa DOJ opinion, first, opinion number 106, series of 1995, no substantial conflict exists between the provisions of Section 4I of the LLDA Act and Section 4A of the PEA Charter.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001609

Such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, the rule that the special law shall remain as an exception.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001612

To the general law applies exproprio vigore.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001613

Explain to your colleagues kasi yung iba sa kanila yung mga engineer.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001614

So, that means, tama ba ako? That since special law ang LLDA, LLDA ang may jurisdiction sa Laguna Lake pagdating ng reclamation, hindi kayo?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001615

No, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001616

Yun ang ibig sabi niya, ayan o.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001617

In the instant case, no substantial conflict exists between provisions of 4-1.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001618

Such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, the rule that the special law shall remain as an exception.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001619

So, that being the case, the two provisions are in pari materia, the rule above stated, the special law shall remain as an exception to the general law.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001620

The general law is the PRA law.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001621

The special law is the LLDA law.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001622

The LLDA law says they can reclaim.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001623

They passed a resolution of their own in 1995 saying that they have exclusive jurisdiction in reclamation in LLDA.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001624

Your Honor, can I explain?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001625

Go ahead, yes.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001626

Actually, the exclusive jurisdiction over sa general and special is over Laguna Lake.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001627

Yes.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001628

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001629

And reclamation in Laguna Lake.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001630

But on the reclamation, sir, nagbaliktad, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001631

Nasaan nakalagay yun?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001632

Nasaan nakalagay dito sa October 12, 1995?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001633

Okay, fine.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001634

Sir, doon sa DOJ opinion.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001635

Nang 12 October, sir, yun yung sinabi na wala na special.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001636

Yes, sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001637

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001638

It's a special law.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001639

And the special law sabi, they have the power to reclaim.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001640

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001641

And they passed a board resolution.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001642

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001643

Said that they have exclusive right to reclaim.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001644

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001645

Oh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001646

And you never questioned that.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001647

Reclaim ng reclaim ang gobyerno through the LLDA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001648

Oh.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001649

Sir, can I read the...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001650

Yes, go ahead, please.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001651

Pareho naman tayong hapang.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001652

Yes, sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001653

Yes, sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001654

Yes, sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001655

Sir, doon sa last paragraph, sir, nung DOJ opinion.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001656

Yes, yun ang binasa ko.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001657

Yes, sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001658

The rule above stated, special law shall remain as an exception.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001659

So, ibig sabihin, the general rule is, basta't reclamation, PRA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001660

What is the exception?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001661

The special law, Laguna Lake.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001662

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001663

Oh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001664

Tinawagan ko rin ang PRA nung panahon ni PRRD.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001665

Yun din ang sinabi.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001666

Na hindi kayo nakikialam sa Laguna Lake because nga, they have a special law.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001667

And pareho kayong kumukuha ng NEDA approval, di ba?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001668

No, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001669

Ngayon, may delegated kayo.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001670

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001671

Pero may iba-iba kayo, di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001672

You were under...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001673

If you follow the history, you were under DPWH.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001674

Before.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001675

Tapos, binalik kayo doon.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001676

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001677

Nag-DNR and OP ngayon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001678

Then, you have to have the president's approval.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001679

Then, NEDA approval.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001680

Then, now you can approve for the president.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001681

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001682

Oh, kasi general law kayo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001683

You can do that anywhere in the Philippines.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001684

Except where there is a special law.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001685

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001686

And assuming, assuming, assuming you want to challenge that right now.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001687

Assuming, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001688

Assuming for the sake of order, whatever.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001689

You think that you can do a better job. That's your call. Pero ano, apektohan yung public service ng mga parks, madi-delay yung pag-construct. So can you again show the picture of the Laguna Lake Highway?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001690

Thank you very much. That's what I want to highlight, Mr. Chairman, Chairman Lopez. Walang problema kung every year nag-aaway kayo ng LLDA, eh siyempre inutos ng DPWH, kumuha na lang kayo ng permit sa ano. Pero kung 20 years na, 15 years na nagko-construct sa side namin at may problema ang PRA...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001691

LLDA, kahit kami ang maiipit sa gitna. Tapos ang DPWH na mas malaki ang project, hindi maiipit.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001692

Hindi naman po namin iniipit ang mga project po. We were just asked for their compliances according to our rules.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001693

That is if every single year ginagawa nyo. Sinasabi ko nga sa inyo, 20 years na may project yan, hindi naman kayo sumusulat doon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001694

Tapos pagsulat nyo ongoing yung project, hindi nyo ako tinanong. Dalawa senador na taga-tagig dyan, hindi nyo tinanong yung mayor, hindi nyo tinanong yung dalawang congressman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001695

Tapos ang DPWH takot sumagot sa inyo. So hindi ba naipit? So ngayon, kung sa City of Manila, may project dyan na pinapakinabangan ng napakaraming tao, hindi private yan, public.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001696

Because may dalawang ahensya na hindi magkasundo kung sino. Biglang matigil, hindi ba naipit yun?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001697

We will call their attention po to regularize.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001698

Yes, sir. But sinis and desist eh. Wala namang additional reclamation. Kung pumunta lang kayo doon at inimbitahan namin lahat na pumunta doon at nakita nyo, pinapalitadahan lang yung isang project, hindi na kayo gumawa ng gulo at nag-issue ng cease and desist. Hindi ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001699

Kung nagpatawag kayo ng meeting ng DPWH at LLDA, kung inimbitahan nyo yung congressman doon sa lugar na yon,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001700

kung inimbitahan nyo yung local government, kung inimbitahan nyo yung mga barangay involved, nangyari pa ba itong lahat na to?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001701

Kung kapaligtarin ko, kung ganyan ko kayo ituring, hindi na dito tayo mag-usap, kung sa media ko nilabas itong lahat, every week, every ngan, magkakaintindihan ba tayo, sir?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001702

Yung project nyo, yung PIEC, kung hindi ko pakinggan ngayon at banatang ko na lang every week,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001703

tapos kawawa ang Pilipinas pag na-delay kasi maganda naman pala. Will you appreciate that, Mr. Chairman?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001704

Wala kaming problema kung may anomalya dyan, kung may titles. Sir, are you aware, sir, taga DNR, are you aware na napakaraming fake titles dyan?

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001705

Totoo po yun, Mr. Your Honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001706

So what does myself, what does Mayor Lani, what does Taguig have to do?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001707

Kung may fake titles dyan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001708

Sabi ni-imbestigahan nyo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001709

Di-imbestigahan nyo with LRA, wala kaming problema dun, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001710

Wala kaming problema dun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001711

O sabi nyo may nireclaim illegally, mapupunta sa gobyerno.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001712

Lahat tunong makikita nyo dyan sa gobyerno eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001713

So ano ang kukunin nyo para sa gobyerno?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001714

Sir, sa interview nyo, paulit-ulit kayo, kukunin namin yan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001715

Anong kukunin nyo po? Eh sa gobyerno naman po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001716

Anong kukunin nyo po yan?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001717

Your Honor, actually we're not stopping the construction.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001718

I just want to clarify, Your Honor, what we have questioned with the DPWH

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001719

is the filling up of the area which is enclosed by the, with the slope protection and the C6.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001720

And you didn't explain it?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001721

Sir, eto ah.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001722

Ay Secretary Dizon ang nagpapaliwanag.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001723

Alam nyo po bakit, sir?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001724

Kasi nung panahon ni President Pinoy, chief of staff ko siya.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001725

So familiar siya dyan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001726

Nung panahon ni PRD, presidential advisor on flagship program siya.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001727

At parati niyang kasama ang DOTR at DPWH.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001728

At nandyan siya nung napag-usapan yung project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001729

Kaya alam niya.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001730

Eto, sir, na kulay blue at kulay pula.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001731

Yan ang re-alignance.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001732

Yan ang re-alignance ngayon dahil kailangan ilayo ng 1 kilometer from the lakeshore.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001733

Because kung hindi, sir, yung 1,300 hectares namin aano rin na.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001734

At kung hindi gagawan ng lake ng park, sir, ano nangyayari pagka tapos tubig na?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001735

In your experience?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001736

Erosion.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001737

Aside from erosion, binabahayan, di ba, ng tao?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001738

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001739

Aside from binabahayan, tinatapo na ng basura, di ba, sir?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001740

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001741

Pero pag may park, sir?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001742

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001743

Completed na?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001744

Completed lahat, di ba, sir?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001745

May CR, walang nagda-dump sa tubig.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001746

Yan yung purpose niyon, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001747

Ang tawag diyan, linear park.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001748

So, I don't take it against anyone who wants to investigate, who asks, may project.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001749

Ang hinihingi ko lang, Mr. Chairman, I'll, I'll, ano, dahil I'm taking up too much time.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001750

Hindi pa pwede mag-usap yung gobyerno.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001751

Sir, we will, your honor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001752

So, sa Friday, nandito si Secretary Vince Dizon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001753

Can someone of authority sa inyo attend?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001754

Para kayo mag-usap?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001755

In front of all of us, para hindi kayo, di ba, he said this, he said this.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001756

Kaya kayo mag-usap.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001757

Your honor, if I may?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001758

Yes, go ahead.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001759

Actually, tama po kayo kung, kung finilap nyo, hindi po matatamba ka ng basura.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001760

Going back lang po doon sa 2018 incident,

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001761

actually, ang una po namin na, na, na, stop.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001762

Is a filling up doon sa portion nung dulo po, na may basura po.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-001763

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001764

I don't know where I remember you from eh, but your name is very familiar or you just have one of those names that are nice and easy to pronounce and everything.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001765

But, this goes to everyone.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001766

Hindi ba reputation is important?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001767

Di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001768

Kaya kami ni Senator Tulfo nagbabanatan din minsan, pero, you know, we try to then, we talk.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001769

Why?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001770

His reputation.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001771

is important to him.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001772

My reputation is important to him.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001773

Who will speak for the city of Taguig?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001774

So, pag sinabing may anomalya dyan, may titulo dyan, and this is dyan, et cetera, hindi po tao yung city eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001775

Kaya ko tinanong, chairman, di ba, kung Manila yun, whether official ka o hindi, pag sinabing Manila ganito, Manila ganyan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001776

So, yun ang problema, sir, kasi ang dami na sinabi about our city.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001777

So, like, halimbawa, sir, sa titling, no, I mean, maybe si engineer.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001778

Does the city have any, any, ano, participation in land titling?

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001779

Sa proseso po, your honor, ay kailangan po namin ng concurrence po ng, ano, halimbawa yung city po, katulad po ng nangyayari.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001780

No, but I'm saying, sir, di ba, if I'm a private, magpapatitulo ako, di ba, I either go to LRA or to court, di ba?

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001781

Opo.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001782

Opo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001783

Wala namang participation yung city, di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001784

Ang city ba nagpapatitulo?

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001785

Your honor, bahagi po ng proseso ng pagtitulo po ay yung kailangan po na may SOP yan.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001786

At kung ito ay pag-aay po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001787

Sir, sabihin niyo yung SOP kasi sa media may ibang ibig sabihin ng SOP.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001788

Pakisabi, sir.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001789

Survey, survey po.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001790

May survey.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001791

May survey.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001792

At in-administer po ito ng lisensyado pong judetic engineer.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001793

Yes, not the city.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001794

So, gagawa po ng plano yan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001795

Sir, not the city.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001796

At pag natapos po dito.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001797

Yes.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001798

Of course po, may pipirman po ng city.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001799

Okay, kasi sa kanila po yung lupa.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001800

Sorry po.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001801

May pipirman po yung plano.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001802

No, no.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001803

You're talking about land that city owns.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001804

Yes po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001805

No, I'm talking about land titling in general.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001806

Ganon din po.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001807

Yung plano po ng lupa, kailangan po pirmahan nila, mag-concur po sila sa ginawa po ng judetic engineer.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001808

So, may concurrence.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001809

At yun po ang isasabit natin doon po sa DINR po, sa Land Management Bureau.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001810

Sino ang pipirma sa city para sa land?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001811

I have not.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001812

Hindi pa ako nagpapatitulo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001813

Nagpapatitulo ng lupa.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001814

Sa media kasi, it's being communicated na para bang ang city ang gumagawa ng titlo.

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PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.

asr-001815

Your Honor, as per advice po na kasama ko, na dati ko rin kasamahan sa DINR, ay yung assessor po ang normally pumipirma po para sa titlo po ng lupa.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001816

Yes, because the assessor, if you do not have a title yet, but you're paying the taxes,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001817

then you will get the tax deck.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001818

Diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001819

And if you go, for example, sa Fort Bonifacio, nung binenta yan, there were several having tax decks for the same lupa.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001820

Ganon din, may mga fake titles nun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001821

Diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001822

So, what I'm saying is that, if you're saying they're part of the process in the sense that you have to get the tax deck and you have to sign,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001823

diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001824

But, regardless, itabi mo yan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001825

So, what does the city have to do kung may mga titlo dun?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001826

Familiar ba kayo ng land titling sa Laguna Lake?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001827

This is the second to my final, ano.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001828

Sir, are you familiar with the land titlings upon the Laguna Lake area?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001829

Di po, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001830

Okay. I will familiarize you guys, para lang malinaw, pati sa media.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001831

60s, 70s, napasay yung Laguna Lake, diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001832

Martial law, pwede kang PD, presidential decree.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001833

Ang PD is the effect of law.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001834

Diba? Because of Proclamation No. 3.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001835

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001836

Sabi sa LLDA law, pag mababa sa 12.5 meters, automatically, it is owned by LLDA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001837

It's under their jurisdiction.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001838

At pag may lupa dun, sa kanila yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001839

Nasa law yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001840

Pero, even under PD 3, even under martial law, may constitution tayo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001841

And the constitution says, you cannot take land without payment.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001842

So, any...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001843

Anyone who already had title nun, ay hindi pwedeng kunin ng LLDA unless babayaran nila.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001844

Diba? Kasi may title ka na eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001845

So, isang tabi na natin yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001846

Yung mga may title before the LLDA law.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001847

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001848

After that, nasubaybayan ko yan over the years.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001849

1992, I was 21 years old.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001850

Conceal na ako sa tagi.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001851

Ang nangyayari dyan usually, pag may nag-file sa RTC for title,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001852

kwe-question yun ng LLDA dahil sa batas nila.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001853

But, pag na-prove nung may-ari na sa kanya yun at na-grant ng RTC,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001854

nung araw, inaabot pa ng Supreme Court.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001855

But, I don't know when, if it was 80s or 90s,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001856

naging desisyon ng LLDA,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001857

pag nanalo sa RTC, huwag na natin habulin hanggang Supreme Court.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001858

Kasi, talo na tayo sa RTC.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001859

So, meron talagang mga titulo dyan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001860

Again, I ask the question,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001861

unless yung city ang nagpapasili...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001862

What does the city have to do with all the titles there?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001863

Kaya, nasabi ko sa media,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001864

kung babawiin nyo lahat ng titulo ng lahat sa Laguna Lake,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001865

pabor sa amin yun kasi gobyerno ngayon yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001866

Pero, magkakagulo tayo sa lahat ng...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001867

sa Torrens title.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001868

Kasi, yung iba dyan, 20, 30, 40 years,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001869

puwera yung fake.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001870

Yung fake at any time,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001871

ano ba ang...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001872

ang...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001873

pagka-fraudulent yung title?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001874

Dalawa, di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001875

Pagka yung fake, as in it's hindi totoo,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001876

any time yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001877

Wala yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001878

Wala yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001879

It's null and void.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001880

Di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001881

Pero, if you have a real title,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001882

but through fraudulent means,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001883

nakuha mo,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001884

is it four years?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001885

Four years from discovery?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001886

Isa sa inyo is a broker, eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001887

Nakita ko sa...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001888

sa ano nyo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001889

Sino yung broker sa...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001890

Isa sa board nyo...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001891

Hindi, oh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001892

Mr. El Defonso is the director of the Bureau of Land,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001893

for the longest of time.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001894

So, maybe you can answer.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001895

So, sir, pagka...

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001896

ano,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001897

tunay yung title,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001898

pero fraudulent yung pagkuha,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001899

di ba you can question it pa?

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PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso

asr-001900

Yeah, yes.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001901

Isa.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001902

For how long, sir?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001903

Four years pa?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001904

Or eight years, di ba?

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PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso

asr-001905

Walang prescription.

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PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso

asr-001906

As far as I know.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001907

So, I'll go through it, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001908

Pag everything is legit,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001909

na-inform lahat ng katabi mo,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001910

nasunod mo lahat,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001911

may right ka talaga doon,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001912

nagkatitulo ka,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001913

everyone has one year

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001914

from the issue,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001915

one student title,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001916

that is,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001917

that is,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001918

what do you call this,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001919

publicized.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001920

You have one year.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001921

Kung hindi,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001922

hindi mo na madi-dispute,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001923

di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001924

The exception is,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001925

if you got it through fraudulent means,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001926

then from discovery,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001927

you have a time period,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001928

I'm not sure,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001929

four years.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001930

There's a third kind,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001931

fake title.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001932

Walang prescription yun,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001933

kasi null and void yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001934

Fake yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001935

Hindi totoo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001936

Di ba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001937

Oo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001938

So, yun ang sinasabi ko,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001939

Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001940

Pasensya na.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001941

If fake titles are going around

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001942

and sasabihin yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001943

there's a hundred hectares

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001944

underwater na gano'n

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001945

and that's a fake title,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001946

kawawa naman mga taga LRA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001947

Kawawa naman yung assessor.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001948

Kawawa naman yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001949

legitimate owners.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001950

Nag-iisip sila lahat.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001951

Kaya nung sinabing

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001952

17 hectares,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001953

180 ba yun,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001954

70?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001955

Hinahanap nung lahat eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001956

Hinahanap nung lahat.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001957

Pati,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001958

meron yung titulo dyan

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001959

na 18.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001960

Hindi mga sumusulat formal,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001961

kasi kasabihin,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001962

nakikialam.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001963

Alam mo kanino ako

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001964

nagtatanong sa brokers?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001965

Kasi sila nagbebente.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001966

May bentahan ba dyan

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001967

na last 5 years

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001968

o na last 10 years

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001969

nung 18?

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001970

Mr. Senator,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001971

Hindi po namin sinasabing

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001972

fake title.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001973

Wala akong kami sinasabing gano'n.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001974

Ang sinasabi lang namin,

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-001975

unauthorized po.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001976

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001977

Ang problema, sir,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001978

sa mga interviews,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001979

sinasabi,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001980

nagahalo na kasi.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001981

Tapos,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001982

sasabihin,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001983

nakita na ng PRA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001984

30 hectares.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001985

Nakita na ng PRA,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001986

170 hectares.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001987

Nakita na ng PRA,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001988

may titulo,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001989

underwater.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001990

And hindi natin alam

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001991

kung tunay yung titulo na yan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001992

In the meantime,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001993

bugbog na bugbog

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001994

yung reputation ng city namin.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001995

Again, I ask you the question.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001996

who will talk for our city?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001997

Diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001998

So, sana na-realize nyo lang yung problema ngayon

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-001999

and sana we're all just,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002000

how do I put it, circumspect.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002001

Now, kung totoo, sir, crucify.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002002

Kung totoo, kung sino

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002003

man ito manon, kahit na ako yun,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002004

kahit na yung mayor, yung congressman,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002005

kahit na sa first

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002006

family, kung may gumagawa ng anomalya

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002007

dyan, go ahead, sir. Pero habang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002008

iniimbestiga, baka pwedeng

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002009

may konti tayong circumspection,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002010

diba? And then, secondly,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002011

sana nga, sir, between,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002012

I mean, although

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002013

ang LLDA now is under

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002014

DNR, tama ba,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002015

sir, na once upon a time, it was under

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002016

OP din?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002017

Ang LLDA?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002018

Alam ko, nag-ano din yun, eh. Umiikot din yun, eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002019

But ang point ko is, once

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002020

upon a time, you were under OP.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002021

Ang LLDA,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002022

I think it was, I'm not sure, ah,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002023

pero ngayon, under DNR. Tapos, ang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002024

chairman ng board is the

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002025

DNR secretary. So, pareho

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002026

naman kayong gobyerno, lahat naman kami magkukumplay, eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002027

Pero,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002028

i-synchronize nyo yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002029

rules nyo. Hindi pwedeng sinasabi

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002030

ng LLDA sa amin,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002031

kami, sabi nyo, tapos

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002032

may ipit. Last question.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002033

Assuming,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002034

kung sino man may jurisdiction,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002035

under both rules

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002036

of the LLDA and

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002037

the DNR,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002038

sino ang dapat kumuha ng permit?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002039

Okay.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002040

Sa reclamation permit, sir?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002041

Reclamation and infrastructure

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002042

that came about because of

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002043

the unauthorized

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002044

reclamation.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002044-split-2

Sir, for the reclamation, sir,

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002045

it's the proponents.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002045-split-2

Yes.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002046

And in this case, in Taguig,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002047

we're talking about who?

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002048

DPWH.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002048-split-2

DPWH.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002048-split-3

Yes, sir.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002049

So, ang ugat ng problema natin,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002050

hindi ang city, hindi

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002051

ako,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002052

hindi ko sino man, kung hindi, ang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002053

kakulangan ng DPWH.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002054

Pero, nung tinatanong namin sila, sabi kasi

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002055

nila, sir, 20 years na kasi kaming

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002056

eto yung proseso.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002057

Pero, syempre, umaangal din

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002058

yung LLDA. Pero, may hawak ako dito, eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002059

Nag-issue din

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002060

ng LLDA ng MOA

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002061

between Taguig City,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002062

LLDA,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002063

DPWH, MMDA.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002064

Meron din

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002065

project ang Taguig City with LLDA

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002066

and Department of Agriculture or the Bureau of

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002067

Fisheries on the water.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002068

Pero, hindi siguro reclaimed yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002069

Kasi, high-tech fish pen.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002070

Di ba? But, ang point ko, sir,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002071

ba't naman hindi susunod lahat

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002072

kung kayong magkaayos?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002073

Pero, kung hindi,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002074

so, for example,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002075

sabi nyo sa budget hearing na to,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002076

last na to, chairman, no? Sabi nyo sa budget

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002077

hearing na to, hindi kami magkasundo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002078

So, hindi muna kami gagawa ng project

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002079

ng isang taon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002080

Pababaya namin mapuno ng basura

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002081

or ng informal squatters yung area.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002082

No? Sir, kung taga,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002083

sa DNR kayo at sir,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002084

yung medyo familiar ka, alam nyo ba yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002085

I'll close with this. Alam nyo yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002086

lupang-ariyanda?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002087

Have you heard of that?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002088

Lupang-ariyanda?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002089

Ha? Sir, yeah.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002090

Go ahead, sir. So, that

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002091

lupang-ariyanda is squatted

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002092

area. Maraming mga informal

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002093

So, chairman, ganito yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002094

Bago pala ang congressman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002095

May dispute kasi ang Rizal,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002096

Taytay at Taguig.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002097

Paglampas ng Rizal,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002098

Pasig River. Sabi nila Rizal na yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002099

Sabi ng Taguig, pareho naman tayong Rizal eh.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002100

Naging Metro Manila. So, meron din kami

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002101

dyan. Ang ginawa,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002102

naglalagay ng

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002103

stilts.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002104

Tapos ang basura, sinusunog.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002105

Sasabihin filling material,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002106

nilalagay. So, naglakad ako

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002107

doon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002108

Five minutes na ako naglalakad.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002109

Kasi naman nagtatambak dito.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002110

Sabi, sir, tingnan mo yung doon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002111

Pagpunta ko doon, wala pang bahay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002112

Stilts.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002113

So, lampas tuhod.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002114

May tubig pa, basura.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002115

Tinatapon doon.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002116

Sabi ko, oh, ang liit naman ito.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002117

Sir, lahat ng nilakaran mo

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002118

for the last ten minutes, ganito yan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002119

Natamba ka na.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002120

Okay.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002121

The next time na nabalita yan,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002122

nagbangka. Bumaha doon

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002123

ng grabe. Nagbangka doon si

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002124

Senator Biason.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002125

Iinanap ko eh, kung nasa YouTube pa.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002126

Kung ina ako nagkakamali, that was sometime

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002127

2001. That was

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002128

25 years ago.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002129

I'm not sure now if that's

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002130

50, 100, 150 hectares.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002131

So, gentlemen, pag hindi

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002132

inayos yung lakeshore,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002133

ganyan ang nangyayari.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002134

And not only in the Philippines.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002135

You go to Southeast Asian, any

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002136

archipelago, kapag ka may

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002137

kahirapan, ang tubig

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002138

is one of the target areas

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002139

na either

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002140

nakastilts or ngayon

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002141

na may pinagtatambakan.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002142

So, actually, ang nangyayari sa tagig

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002143

is to protect the lakeshore.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002144

Kung hindi, puno na rin ang tao yun

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002145

katulad nung nangyayari

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002146

sa areyenda.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002147

I won't say the barangay, but I can point to you

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002148

a barangay na nangyayari pa rin hanggang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002149

ngayon yun. Whether it's in

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002150

Taguig or Rizal or

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002151

anywhere else.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002152

So, thank you for this time, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002153

But I just wanted to say,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002154

we can get to the bottom of any problem

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002155

when we talk.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002156

Diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002157

Pero, wala man lang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002158

nag-reach out sa inyo. Pag ako naman,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002159

mag-reach out, baka sabihin,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002160

tinatakot ko kayo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002161

Onyx, never naman kita tinakot.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002162

Takot nga ako sa tatay mo.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002163

Diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002164

So, anyway, I'm not gonna

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002165

blame anyone and

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002166

I do know emotions were high here in the

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002167

Senate and it's time

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002168

to move on and solve bigger problems

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002169

of our country, including problems with our

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002170

economy. But sana nga,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002171

you can send someone, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002172

I won't tell you to do this or to do that.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002173

I'll just tell you, do the right thing.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002174

Pero yun nga, sana, in the quickest

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002175

possible time,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002176

with the

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002177

LLDA and si

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002178

Secretary Vince Dizon. Kasi ang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002179

LLDA, baliktad naman.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002180

Meeting ng meeting sa amin,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002181

meeting ng meeting

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002182

sa DPWH at saka

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002183

sa city, ngayon magbabudget

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002184

hearing, ayaw na nila makipag-usap.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002185

Hindi ko alam bakit.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002186

Diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002187

Go ahead, sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002188

Your Honor, we...

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002189

We're happy to

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002190

inform the Chair and

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002191

your Honor that we'll be having

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002192

a coordination meeting with

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002193

both LLDA, DNR

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002194

and DPWH.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002195

Open ba sa lahat yan?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002196

Hindi ba dapat meron din

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002197

taga-city? Let's invite

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002198

everybody. Sir,

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002198-split-2

yes sir. You're welcome, sir.

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002199

We will welcome the participation

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002200

of the LGUs. Your staff po is

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PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal

asr-002201

most welcome.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002201-split-2

If there's anyone

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002202

objective, bring them. Kasi

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002203

kaso sa, diba? Ako,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002204

kahit wala staff ko, pero yung city naman

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002205

siguro, nung nangyari yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002206

flood control scam, yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002207

buong sinasabi ng

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002208

national government, sana in-involve

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002209

natin yung lokal.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002210

Ngayon, parang

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002211

ayaw natin yung involve yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002212

yung lokal.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002213

Eh, sila naman nakataalam

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002214

doon,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002215

sir. Diba? Okay. Kasi

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002216

sir, I think it's

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002217

about time because if you're

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002218

aware, before the pandemic,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002219

muntik nang magkaroon

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002220

ng reclamation project ng between

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002221

200 to 2,000

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002222

hectares sa Muntinlupa

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002223

and Taguig side ng Laguna Lake.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002224

Meron pre-proposed dyan na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002225

si, I think

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002226

si Architect Palafox,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002227

pero Rizal side na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002228

airport. Binubuhay yun

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002229

before binag-usapan yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002230

Bulacan, I think it was

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002231

packaged as possible, possibly

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002232

a Manipakyao airport

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002233

at the time. Pano ni

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002234

Speaker Alvarez.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002235

And then, etong 2021-

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002236

2022-23,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002237

may lumalapit

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002238

na gustong mag-present. So,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002239

eventually, there's gonna be a proposal.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002240

And,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002241

kung sino man mas magaling sa inyo

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002242

ng LLDA in assessing

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002243

sustainability, public

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002244

use, etc., okay sa amin yun.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002245

Diba? So, Mr.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002246

Chairman, I'll leave it at that and thank you

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002247

for this. And I hope

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002248

the ladies and gentlemen appreciate

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002249

diba, yung

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002250

ano to, July pa,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002251

September na. Diba?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002252

Kawawa naman yung mga taong

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002253

napabanggit,

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002254

naiipit, at kawawa naman

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002255

yung seating hindi nakakapagsalita para

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002256

sa, siguro eto, last na

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002257

last na talaga. Nag-BBGC ba

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002258

kayo?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002259

Pumapasyal ba kayo sa BGC?

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002260

Tagig, oh. Siguro naman nage-enjoy

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002261

kayo sa city namin. Kaya si

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002262

siguro naman, konting malasakit

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002263

din pabalik sa isang siyudad.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002264

Na nagmamalasakit

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002265

din sa lahat. Thank you, Mr.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002266

Thank you, Chairman Lopez.

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Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano

asr-002267

Po.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-002267-split-2

Thank you and

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-002268

sorry for any inconvenience

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-002269

in the miscommunication, if any.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002270

Thank you.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002271

Thank you,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002272

Minority Leader. Thank you.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002273

Anyway, there

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002274

being no other questions,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002275

the fiscal year 2027

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002276

proposed budget of the

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002277

Philippine Reclamation Authority

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002278

is now or will be submitted.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002279

So, plenary consideration.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002280

Subject, of course, to discussions

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002281

and questions from my

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002282

colleagues in the plenary.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002283

I hope you'll be prepared by then.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002284

And submission of

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002285

requested documents. Thank you.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-002286

Thank you, Senator Erwin.

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PRA Chair Alex Lopez

asr-002287

Thank you so much.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002287-split-2

Yes, I would like to thank

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002288

the officials and employees of the

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002289

Philippine Reclamation Authority

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002290

for their budget briefing to this committee.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002291

And I would like to thank Senator

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002292

Cayetano for

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002293

attending this budget briefing. Thank you.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002294

This budget briefing is hereby suspended.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-002295

Maraming salamat po.