1 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:30,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I apologize for the delay. I know we should have started at around three, but we had to go to the session hall because I had to sponsor several measures before the floor. 2 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:59,980 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So I do apologize and thank you for your patience and understanding. Well, let us now begin. Magandang hapon po sa ating lahat. The budget briefing for fiscal year 2007 proposed budgets of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas and the Philippine Reclamation Authority is hereby called to order. We will be joined by several of our colleagues later on. 3 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:23,900 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I would also like to thank and acknowledge the presence of CFO Secretary Dante Ang and PRA Chairman Alexander Lopez. At this juncture, may I ask the Committee Secretary to acknowledge our other resource persons in today's budget briefing? 4 01:08:23,900 --> 01:08:31,120 Committee Secretary: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. The Committee on Finance, Subcommittee H, would like to acknowledge the presence of the following: 5 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:59,980 Committee Secretary: From the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, earlier acknowledged by the Chairman, we have Secretary Dante Francis Ang II. Good afternoon po. We also have Undersecretary Maria [unclear] Borja. From the Philippine Reclamation Authority, also earlier acknowledged by Chairman Senator Erwin Tulfo: 6 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:29,980 Committee Secretary: Attorney Alexander Lopez, Engineer Cesar Siador Jr., Director Elio [unclear], Director Anthony Peter Crisologo, Attorney Jose Ferrer Jr., and Attorney Joselito Gonzalez. 7 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:40,000 Committee Secretary: Attorney Joseph John [unclear]. From the Commission on Audit for the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, 8 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:50,000 Committee Secretary: we have Mr. Fahad bin Abdul Malik Tumawis. 9 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,000 Committee Secretary: From the Commission on Audit for the Philippine Reclamation Authority, we have Mr. Marlon Marcadia. Good afternoon, sir. 10 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:08,200 Committee Secretary: From the Department of Budget and Management for Commission on Filipinas Overseas, we have Ms. Mary Rose Aguilar, good afternoon ma'am. 11 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:18,520 Committee Secretary: And also from the Department of Budget and Management for Philippine Reclamation Authority, we have Ms. Lulu Vizpo, good afternoon po. 12 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,060 Committee Secretary: I think that is all, Mr. Chair. 13 01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:32,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Committee Secretary. I would like to acknowledge the presence of our Minority Leader, Senator Alan Peter Cayetano. Thank you, sir, for joining us this afternoon. 14 01:10:33,820 --> 01:10:47,760 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Anyway, for today, the Finance Subcommittee H will deliberate on the fiscal year 2027 proposed budgets of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas and the Philippine Reclamation Authority. 15 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,660 Senator Erwin Tulfo: As we deliberate on the 2027 budget, 16 01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:57,380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: let us remember that every peso appropriated is a peso entrusted to us by the people. 17 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:04,620 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kaya dapat malinaw po saan napupunta ang ating pondo, ano ang resulta, at sino ang tunay na makikinabang. 18 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: For the CFO, our starting point is equally clear. 19 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Hindi lamang remittance ang ambag ng ating mga kababayan sa abroad. 20 01:11:12,380 --> 01:11:19,240 Senator Erwin Tulfo: They bring skills, investments, ideas, networks, and most importantly, a continuing connection to the Philippines. 21 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:20,820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: For the PRA, 22 01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:26,520 Senator Erwin Tulfo: we will look closely at the balance between development and environmental stewardship. 23 01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:32,220 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Reclamation and the development of public lands must be anchored on sound planning, 24 01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:38,420 Senator Erwin Tulfo: economic value, climate resilience, and the long-term interests of Filipino people. 25 01:11:39,180 --> 01:11:40,640 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Hindi po sapat na may proyekto. 26 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,040 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Dapat malinaw kung may tunay na pakinabang sa publiko. 27 01:11:50,180 --> 01:11:51,040 Senator Erwin Tulfo: At the end of this deliberation, 28 01:11:51,060 --> 01:11:52,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: our standards should be clear: 29 01:11:53,060 --> 01:11:58,500 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Translate into public value, measurable results, and meaningful services to the Filipino people. 30 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:05,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: This is how we uphold fiscal responsibility and more importantly, maintain the trust that our people place in government. 31 01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:11,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Let this hearing therefore be candid, constructive, and focused on the outcomes. 32 01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:14,400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ang budget ay hindi lamang po numero sa papel. 33 01:12:15,140 --> 01:12:19,380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ito ay salamin ng ating mga prioridad at pananagutan sa mamamayan. 34 01:12:19,380 --> 01:12:20,540 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you. 35 01:12:21,060 --> 01:12:21,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Let's proceed. 36 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:22,860 Senator Erwin Tulfo: But before we do that, 37 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:29,940 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I would like to ask our minority leader, Senator Cayetano, if he has any opening statement. 38 01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:32,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 39 01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:33,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will follow your lead. 40 01:12:34,260 --> 01:12:39,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You said to keep it clear, focused, professional. 41 01:12:40,260 --> 01:12:46,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sa akin lang po yung biblical principle, kung anong ating itatanim, yan ang ating aanihin. 42 01:12:46,060 --> 01:12:51,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And in that spirit, after the chairman, may I ask one or two questions? 43 01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:55,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To the Honourable Secretary Dante, about Filipinos overseas. 44 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Mayor. 45 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,120 Senator Erwin Tulfo: With that, let us proceed with our budget hearing. 46 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:12,920 Senator Erwin Tulfo: We will open the floor now for the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, if they have any or if they want to make any presentation. 47 01:13:13,740 --> 01:13:14,880 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Secretary Ang, go ahead. 48 01:13:16,980 --> 01:13:19,560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Honourable Members of the Committee. 49 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,980 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: With your permission. 50 01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:26,880 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Sirs, I have a two-page opening statement and a five-minute video, if that would be okay. 51 01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:28,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Go ahead. 52 01:13:28,940 --> 01:13:29,460 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Salamat po. 53 01:13:30,020 --> 01:13:39,120 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Whenever stakeholders hear us, it is often followed by questions about our connection to our other migrant-serving counterparts and our scope of work. 54 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:47,340 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Put simply, the CFO's mandate is to foster diaspora engagement through programs and policies 55 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: that involve and empower our non-resident Filipinos. 56 01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:54,680 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: To participate in national development. 57 01:13:55,740 --> 01:14:09,140 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: NRF is our term for permanent migrants, expatriates, dual citizens, marriage migrants, as well as all their descendants and cultural exchange program participants in the U.S. and Europe. 58 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:20,300 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: They are the reason why the CFO exists under Batas Pambansa 79 to serve migrating Filipinos and lead in the Brain Gain initiatives. 59 01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:27,860 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: The CFO ensures that NRFs are connected to the Philippines politically, economically, and culturally. 60 01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:31,780 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: The Philippines enjoys a competitive advantage. 61 01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:38,100 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: But Filipinos overseas need programs and policies that enable them to participate in development. 62 01:14:38,980 --> 01:14:43,220 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: First, the CFO serves the largest segment of our migrants. 63 01:14:43,220 --> 01:14:51,000 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: About 60% of the estimated 10.7 million Filipinos residing overseas fall under the CFO's 64 01:14:51,060 --> 01:14:54,340 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: specific purview and require government services. 65 01:14:54,980 --> 01:15:00,020 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: This is more than half of the population, and they are vital resources for the Philippines. 66 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,240 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: The diaspora, despite migrating long-term, continues to identify with being Filipino 67 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:14,640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and expresses an earnest desire to be involved in the country. Second is its economic significance. 68 01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:22,640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: just like ofws our nrfs bring in a significant amount of remittances but they are hardly 69 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:28,560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: recognized for this contribution. Our flagship diaspora program, Lingkod sa Kapwa Pilipino (LINKAPIL), 70 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:35,920 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: has facilitated more than 3.4 billion pesos in contributions over the decades. 71 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,840 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: in relation the cfo's constituents not only give back economically as the chairman said 72 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,600 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: but they also provide knowledge and skills transfer to communities 73 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we have done medical mission they have done medical missions capacity building workshops 74 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and consultations with our partners 75 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:58,480 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: The LINKAPIL economic engagement program is one through which NRFs can help SMEs in 76 01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:04,080 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: the philippines and support small-scale infrastructure third is harnessing political 77 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:10,320 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and social capital. Our NRFs serve as informal ambassadors of our country, 78 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:16,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: imbued with soft power some diaspora members are not only community leaders but they also 79 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:22,400 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: serve in key positions in governments overseas the cfo collaborates with these important 80 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:22,560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: figures 81 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:27,440 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and opens the way for business, social, and tourism ventures in the Philippines. 82 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:34,720 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: the creation of the cfo in 1980 signaled a clear recognition that international migration 83 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:40,080 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: extended beyond labor mobility and required focused attention on immigrant populations 84 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:46,640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and transnational engagement our filipino diaspora summit last june brought together 85 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:52,400 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: nrfs from around the world and echoed the same sentiment it proved that the diaspora 86 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:57,920 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: is not seeking engagement the philippines in the abstract but rather with specific concrete 87 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:04,960 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: development opportunities provided by the cfo thus it are it is our intention to continue our mission 88 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:09,360 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and ensure that the contributions welfare and interests of our permanent and long-term 89 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:19,280 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: migrants are not neglected. To facilitate our plans, the CFO is proposing a budget of 195.2 million pesos. Forty-eight percent, 90 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,080 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: or 93.898 million pesos, 91 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:30,720 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: will be allocated to personnel services, while 52 percent, or 101.302 million pesos, 92 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,720 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: will be allocated for maintenance and other operating expenses, or MOOE. 93 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: in terms of distribution by major program activity or project 94 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:44,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: 73.26 million will be allocated to general administration and support or gas 95 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:52,320 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: the cfo assures that the budget shall be maximized to its fullest potential as evidenced by a previous 96 01:17:52,400 --> 01:18:00,080 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: performance in 2025 we were able to obligate 91.36 percent of our of our budget with a 97 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:07,760 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: disbursement rate of 92.6 percent in the last seven years the cfo has maintained more than a 90 98 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:15,600 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: disbursement rate. In 2027, the CFO will not only maintain its regular programs such as BaLinkBayan, 99 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:22,400 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: YouLeaD, Ugnayan, but also intensify campaigns for further diaspora engagement for national development. 100 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we plan to conduct outreach to overseas filipino organizations 101 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:33,120 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: create development focus modules for the youth intensify our anti-human trafficking efforts 102 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and bolster partnerships with other migration and development stakeholders 103 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:44,160 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: to help achieve our new goals we are also requesting an additional 88 million 764 000 104 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:52,400 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: for the cfo mismo baling buy-in project continuing cost office productivity and our newly created for 105 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:58,240 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: filipino diaspora volunteer program supporting the cfo means strengthening our commitment to 106 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:04,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: every filipino whether they are at home or abroad so with your permission mr chairman i now show 107 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: a brief video to summarize all of these proposals 108 01:19:32,190 --> 01:19:45,120 Presentation video: Around the world, millions of Filipinos have built lives, careers, and communities. With them is a vast reservoir of knowledge, expertise, networks, resources, and a continuing desire to contribute to the Philippines. 109 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,240 Presentation video: For many, the question is 110 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:48,240 Presentation video: not whether 111 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,200 Presentation video: they want to help, 112 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,200 Presentation video: but how, where, 113 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,280 Presentation video: and with whom 114 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,320 Presentation video: they can make a meaningful contribution. 115 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,860 Presentation video: This is where the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, or CFO, comes in. 116 01:19:56,220 --> 01:20:03,500 Presentation video: CFO connects Filipinos overseas with credible programs, communities, government institutions, and partners 117 01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:07,400 Presentation video: through which they can remain engaged and contribute to the country's development. 118 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:12,540 Presentation video: Around 6 million non-resident Filipinos or NRFs live across the world 119 01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:19,120 Presentation video: as permanent residents, naturalized and dual citizens, spouses and partners of foreign nationals, 120 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:25,660 Presentation video: descendants of Filipino migrants, exchange visitors, and other migrants under the Commission's mandate. 121 01:20:26,180 --> 01:20:31,120 Presentation video: Across countries, citizenships, and generations, one bond endures. 122 01:20:31,460 --> 01:20:32,160 Presentation video: Dugong Pinoy 123 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:39,200 Presentation video: CFO strengthens the political, economic, and cultural ties of Filipinos overseas with the Philippines 124 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,700 Presentation video: and facilitates their meaningful participation in national development. 125 01:20:43,700 --> 01:20:48,840 Presentation video: For Filipinos overseas who want to remain connected and contribute to the Philippines, 126 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,880 Presentation video: CFO provides concrete ways to take part. 127 01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:57,420 Presentation video: LINKAPIL connects NRFs who want to give back with channels for supporting local development. 128 01:20:57,780 --> 01:21:06,820 Presentation video: In 2025, the program facilitated 14.4 million pesos in donations from 2,835 overseas donors, 129 01:21:07,380 --> 01:21:14,500 Presentation video: benefiting 17,698 Filipinos in 17 provinces and the National Capital Region. 130 01:21:14,500 --> 01:21:18,300 Presentation video: Beyond immediate assistance, CFO encourages contributions 131 01:21:18,300 --> 01:21:19,100 Presentation video: that address 132 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,120 Presentation video: longer-term development needs 133 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,380 Presentation video: and strengthen community resilience, 134 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,860 Presentation video: turning bayanihan across borders into concrete action. 135 01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:27,880 Presentation video: BaLinkBayan 136 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,760 Presentation video: reconnects Filipinos overseas with their places of origin, 137 01:21:32,140 --> 01:21:37,920 Presentation video: working with LGUs to link diaspora investments, expertise, community initiatives, 138 01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:42,020 Presentation video: and other forms of participation with local development needs. 139 01:21:42,460 --> 01:21:47,580 Presentation video: CFO also engages succeeding generations through Philippine schools overseas, 140 01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:48,660 Presentation video: YouLeaD, 141 01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:54,620 Presentation video: and the Virtual Centro Rizal, strengthening Filipino identity and their connection to the homeland. 142 01:21:54,620 --> 01:22:03,720 Presentation video: Ugnayan brings CFO services, programs, and diaspora engagement initiatives directly to Filipino communities overseas. 143 01:22:04,140 --> 01:22:07,820 Presentation video: CFO also brings NRF perspectives into policymaking, 144 01:22:08,380 --> 01:22:14,300 Presentation video: helping ensure that diaspora concerns are reflected in government policy and migration governance. 145 01:22:14,300 --> 01:22:25,720 Presentation video: PESO Sense strengthens financial literacy, supported by a digital community of 3.9 million followers and nearly 800,000 SAVERS Group members. 146 01:22:25,940 --> 01:22:31,540 Presentation video: Together, these programs represent one of CFO's defining roles, our second frontline, 147 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,720 Presentation video: which continues after Filipinos have established lives overseas. 148 01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:44,080 Presentation video: Here, CFO helps reconnect the diaspora with the Philippines and channel their knowledge, skills, networks, investments, 149 01:22:44,620 --> 01:22:48,920 Presentation video: philanthropy, and other resources toward national and local development. 150 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:54,220 Presentation video: In this way, migration becomes a continuing circulation of knowledge and resources, 151 01:22:54,620 --> 01:22:59,060 Presentation video: helping transform brain drain into brain gain through diaspora engagement. 152 01:22:59,380 --> 01:23:02,000 Presentation video: CFO's work also begins before migration. 153 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:07,840 Presentation video: At our first frontline, we prepare and support Filipinos as they build new lives overseas. 154 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:14,060 Presentation video: In 2025, CFO served 81,859 Filipino migrants, 155 01:23:14,060 --> 01:23:21,060 Presentation video: and program participants across its pre-departure, counseling, au pair, and exchange visitor programs. 156 01:23:21,060 --> 01:23:29,740 Presentation video: CFO also protects migrants through the 1343 Action Line and its advocacy and coordination work against trafficking in persons. 157 01:23:30,220 --> 01:23:35,860 Presentation video: As migration continues to evolve, so must the way government reaches and engages Filipinos overseas. 158 01:23:36,380 --> 01:23:43,480 Presentation video: CFO is strengthening its digital services, BaLinkBayan, critical information systems, and overseas reach 159 01:23:43,480 --> 01:23:44,040 Presentation video: through 160 01:23:44,060 --> 01:23:48,060 Presentation video: honorary diaspora representatives in selected communities. 161 01:23:48,060 --> 01:23:56,820 Presentation video: These initiatives will make government services more accessible and enable more Filipinos abroad to connect, participate, and contribute to the Philippines. 162 01:23:56,820 --> 01:24:00,180 Presentation video: As the Filipino diaspora continues to grow and evolve, 163 01:24:00,180 --> 01:24:05,780 Presentation video: so does the importance of keeping the Philippines connected to Filipinos wherever they may be. 164 01:24:05,780 --> 01:24:11,380 Presentation video: CFO brings the global Filipino community closer to the country's development needs, 165 01:24:11,380 --> 01:24:14,060 Presentation video: and brings credible avenues for participation, 166 01:24:14,060 --> 01:24:17,060 Presentation video: closer to Filipinos wherever they are. 167 01:24:17,060 --> 01:24:23,060 Presentation video: CFO translates public resources into programs and services for Filipinos overseas. 168 01:24:23,060 --> 01:24:32,060 Presentation video: In 2025, the Commission posted a 91.36% obligation rate and a 92.60% disbursement rate. 169 01:24:32,060 --> 01:24:42,060 Presentation video: For Fiscal Year 2027, the CFO has a proposed budget of P195.2 million under the National Expenditure Program. 170 01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:43,060 Presentation video: Additional resources 171 01:24:44,060 --> 01:24:48,060 Presentation video: will allow CFO to reach more Filipinos overseas, 172 01:24:48,060 --> 01:24:50,060 Presentation video: strengthen program delivery, 173 01:24:50,060 --> 01:24:52,060 Presentation video: expand digital access, 174 01:24:52,060 --> 01:24:56,060 Presentation video: and deepen diaspora engagement for national and local development. 175 01:25:00,060 --> 01:25:01,060 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 176 01:25:01,060 --> 01:25:03,060 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: We can take questions now. 177 01:25:03,060 --> 01:25:05,060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Secretary. 178 01:25:05,060 --> 01:25:08,060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Let me turn over the mic now to our Minority Leader, 179 01:25:08,060 --> 01:25:10,060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Senator Allan Cayetano. 180 01:25:10,060 --> 01:25:11,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 181 01:25:11,060 --> 01:25:13,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: As we were discussing, Mr. Chairman, 182 01:25:13,060 --> 01:25:17,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: together also with Senator Rafi Tulfo, 183 01:25:17,060 --> 01:25:21,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we were discussing the Department of Migrant Workers, Secretary Dante. 184 01:25:21,060 --> 01:25:25,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The original version that, at least the one I filed, 185 01:25:25,060 --> 01:25:28,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: first in the Senate and then in the House of Representatives, 186 01:25:28,060 --> 01:25:32,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when it was passed, I was in the House of Representatives. 187 01:25:32,060 --> 01:25:36,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The original version was not Department of Migrant Workers. 188 01:25:36,060 --> 01:25:40,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's a department for overseas Filipinos. 189 01:25:40,060 --> 01:25:41,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 190 01:25:41,060 --> 01:25:46,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The idea then was God works in mysterious ways. 191 01:25:46,060 --> 01:25:50,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So 2008 or 2009, I visited the UK. 192 01:25:50,060 --> 01:25:57,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: A very good finance person and ambassador, Ambassador Espiritu, entertained me. 193 01:25:57,060 --> 01:26:03,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: His joke was that he was fired because of GMA after I visited him. 194 01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:07,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He brought in a couple of young people. 195 01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:09,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And realistically, if you saw them, 196 01:26:09,060 --> 01:26:13,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maybe one looked very Filipino. 197 01:26:13,060 --> 01:26:18,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two, may hint ka na tatay, nanay, lola nito Pilipino. 198 01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:23,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung tatlo akala mo Indian, British Indian. 199 01:26:23,060 --> 01:26:27,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung isa akala mo Chinese, British. 200 01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:30,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But all of them had Filipino blood. 201 01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:31,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then he said to me, 202 01:26:31,060 --> 01:26:36,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator, these are the ones who have money. 203 01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:38,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because they are the grandchildren. 204 01:26:38,060 --> 01:26:43,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So yung migrants, yung lola nila, nurses, engineers, 205 01:26:43,060 --> 01:26:45,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may [unclear] diyan. 206 01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:47,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Talagang lahat ng klaseng hirap. 207 01:26:47,060 --> 01:26:52,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero yung magulang nila nakapag-aral na sa mga UK schools, 208 01:26:52,060 --> 01:26:53,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: British universities, 209 01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:55,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with a good salary. 210 01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:58,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But these ones, they are in the top schools. 211 01:26:58,060 --> 01:27:01,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At yung mga graduate nito, pinag-aagawan na. 212 01:27:01,060 --> 01:27:02,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So they are in good company. 213 01:27:02,060 --> 01:27:06,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But most of them have never visited the Philippines. 214 01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:08,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So he wanted to point out, 215 01:27:08,060 --> 01:27:10,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he thought of a program. 216 01:27:10,060 --> 01:27:12,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He said, yes, it's a good program. 217 01:27:12,060 --> 01:27:14,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Let's say in Hong Kong, 218 01:27:14,060 --> 01:27:17,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if your boss wants to join, 219 01:27:17,060 --> 01:27:19,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's a plus one visitor. 220 01:27:19,060 --> 01:27:21,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And Hong Kong is just nearby. 221 01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:23,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or if you're an engineer in Saudi, 222 01:27:23,060 --> 01:27:31,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and you want to sell a different vacation spot from the usual, 223 01:27:31,060 --> 01:27:33,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh marami din namang Muslim Filipino, 224 01:27:33,060 --> 01:27:35,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so kino-consider din. 225 01:27:35,060 --> 01:27:37,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But compared, for example, to Dubai, 226 01:27:37,060 --> 01:27:39,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Indonesia, Malaysia, 227 01:27:39,060 --> 01:27:44,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: medyo hindi tayo first, second, third choice. 228 01:27:44,060 --> 01:27:46,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So we put that in the bill. 229 01:27:46,060 --> 01:27:49,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Unfortunately, some members at that time, 230 01:27:49,060 --> 01:27:52,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: even in the budget, 231 01:27:52,060 --> 01:27:54,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm looking at your budget, 232 01:27:54,060 --> 01:27:56,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one particular person, 233 01:27:56,060 --> 01:27:58,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't name him because he just has an idea. 234 01:27:58,060 --> 01:28:00,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He's not here in the Senate. 235 01:28:00,060 --> 01:28:02,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He said, 236 01:28:02,060 --> 01:28:04,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: why should we spend for people 237 01:28:04,060 --> 01:28:06,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: who are no longer Filipinos? 238 01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:07,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Right? 239 01:28:07,060 --> 01:28:08,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Without, 240 01:28:08,060 --> 01:28:10,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he didn't see the flip side. 241 01:28:10,060 --> 01:28:13,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He didn't choose, 242 01:28:13,060 --> 01:28:15,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when he was born, 243 01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:17,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that they are now apos, 244 01:28:17,060 --> 01:28:19,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and their parents 245 01:28:19,060 --> 01:28:22,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: are no longer Filipinos by citizenship, 246 01:28:22,060 --> 01:28:24,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but Filipinos by blood. 247 01:28:24,060 --> 01:28:25,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And later on, 248 01:28:25,060 --> 01:28:28,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the dual citizenship was passed. 249 01:28:28,060 --> 01:28:30,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And to some who do not own, 250 01:28:30,060 --> 01:28:32,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or have no land here, 251 01:28:32,060 --> 01:28:34,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and his whole family is in the US, 252 01:28:34,060 --> 01:28:35,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Europe, 253 01:28:35,060 --> 01:28:36,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Japan, 254 01:28:36,060 --> 01:28:38,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Korea, 255 01:28:38,060 --> 01:28:40,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there was really no incentive 256 01:28:40,060 --> 01:28:41,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to have dual citizenship. 257 01:28:41,060 --> 01:28:43,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And there are some countries, 258 01:28:43,060 --> 01:28:46,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: like Japan, 259 01:28:46,060 --> 01:28:48,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I know a Filipino-Japanese, 260 01:28:48,060 --> 01:28:49,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he said, 261 01:28:49,060 --> 01:28:50,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, 262 01:28:50,060 --> 01:28:51,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: here, 263 01:28:51,060 --> 01:28:52,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when we ask, 264 01:28:52,060 --> 01:28:53,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we need to answer in Japanese. 265 01:28:53,060 --> 01:28:55,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Unlike in the US or the Philippines, 266 01:28:55,060 --> 01:28:56,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when you ask, 267 01:28:56,060 --> 01:28:58,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can say that you are a dual citizen. 268 01:28:58,060 --> 01:28:59,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 269 01:28:59,060 --> 01:29:00,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So my point, 270 01:29:00,060 --> 01:29:01,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Secretary, 271 01:29:01,060 --> 01:29:02,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is that 272 01:29:02,060 --> 01:29:04,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at the end of this year, 273 01:29:04,060 --> 01:29:07,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the law creating the 274 01:29:07,060 --> 01:29:09,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Department of Migrant Workers 275 01:29:09,060 --> 01:29:12,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: will trigger for early next year 276 01:29:12,060 --> 01:29:14,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a review. 277 01:29:14,060 --> 01:29:16,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And both Senator Tulfos have said 278 01:29:16,060 --> 01:29:18,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that they will spend time on that. 279 01:29:18,060 --> 01:29:20,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And I just want to lay that on your feet 280 01:29:20,060 --> 01:29:22,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because you're in the cabinet. 281 01:29:22,060 --> 01:29:24,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Look at the interplay of 282 01:29:24,060 --> 01:29:26,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because it's complicated enough 283 01:29:26,060 --> 01:29:28,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what is with the migrant workers, 284 01:29:28,060 --> 01:29:30,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what is with the DFA. 285 01:29:30,060 --> 01:29:33,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then you will add more Filipinos 286 01:29:33,060 --> 01:29:34,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: overseas. 287 01:29:34,060 --> 01:29:36,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And I was looking at your programs, 288 01:29:36,060 --> 01:29:37,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magaganda, 289 01:29:37,060 --> 01:29:39,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: katulad nung mga pre-depart, 290 01:29:39,060 --> 01:29:41,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung PIDOS, 291 01:29:41,060 --> 01:29:43,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung sa DFA, 292 01:29:43,060 --> 01:29:46,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may paos din sila aside from PIDOS. 293 01:29:46,060 --> 01:29:48,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But if I look at the flip side, 294 01:29:48,060 --> 01:29:49,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'd like you to, 295 01:29:49,060 --> 01:29:51,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'd like you to have programs 296 01:29:51,060 --> 01:29:52,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the US, 297 01:29:52,060 --> 01:29:53,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the UK, 298 01:29:53,060 --> 01:29:54,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in France, 299 01:29:54,060 --> 01:29:56,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: getting these young Filipinos 300 01:29:56,060 --> 01:29:59,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to get to know their country by black. 301 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by origin. And you'll be surprised 302 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:03,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Tulfo, there's 303 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what year was that? 304 01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:08,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If I'm not mistaken, I was 305 01:30:08,140 --> 01:30:10,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: either a new senator or congressman 306 01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:13,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pa ako. So around 2007-2008 307 01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:14,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we went to South Africa 308 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the embassy 309 01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: brought Filipinos to us 310 01:30:18,100 --> 01:30:20,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and they were there since 311 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:21,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: late 1800s 312 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and they were asked 313 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how did your ninunos 314 01:30:26,140 --> 01:30:28,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: get here? Sabi na sir 315 01:30:28,220 --> 01:30:31,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1800s pa lang 316 01:30:31,140 --> 01:30:32,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagsustokwa na 317 01:30:32,780 --> 01:30:34,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga Pilipino sa mga ships 318 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos kung saan may opportunity 319 01:30:37,020 --> 01:30:40,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon. So yung mga lolot-lola 320 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: namin, nasa mga 321 01:30:42,740 --> 01:30:44,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ships, galleon trade, whatever 322 01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:46,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it is. Alam naman 323 01:30:46,820 --> 01:30:47,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: natin galleon trade 324 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mexico, through Mexico 325 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:51,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then Spain. But 326 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may mga ganun talaga. But 327 01:30:54,220 --> 01:30:55,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because the embassy there 328 01:30:55,860 --> 01:30:58,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tuwing may bibisita na 329 01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippine delegation, ipapakilala 330 01:31:00,260 --> 01:31:02,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but sa iba, nawawala 331 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:03,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung institutional memory. 332 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I remember in 2007-2008 333 01:31:07,580 --> 01:31:08,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or 2009 334 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: first time ko sa Ukraine 335 01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: very very different 336 01:31:12,440 --> 01:31:14,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when we went to a new hotel 337 01:31:14,260 --> 01:31:16,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may gumaganon na chef 338 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi nasa gitna, yung open yung kitchen 339 01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:20,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nasa gitna ng hotel, gumaganon 340 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: takan-taka yung mga tao 341 01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:24,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos sabi nung honorary consul 342 01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no no, we have about five 343 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: uh 344 01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipinos here. 345 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How did they get here? Well, some went 346 01:31:32,440 --> 01:31:34,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to Europe, some went to Russia 347 01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:36,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta somehow Filipinos find 348 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:37,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the way. Parang tubig 349 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit anong harang mo sa dam 350 01:31:40,380 --> 01:31:42,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and everything, hahanap yung Pilipino. 351 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So I promise the chairman, maikli lang 352 01:31:44,380 --> 01:31:46,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So I do 353 01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: want you to have the budget you need 354 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:49,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but vis-a-vis 355 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the programs that will 356 01:31:52,420 --> 01:31:53,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bring in 357 01:31:53,900 --> 01:31:56,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not only funds 358 01:31:56,700 --> 01:31:57,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not only 359 01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:00,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: uh put it another way, no? 360 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If there's gonna be a revival 361 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of Filipino culture in the same 362 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: way that nung nagkaroon ng K-drama 363 01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: K-pop, di ba? 364 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung I remember 365 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when I was a new congressman 366 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1998, pagpunta ka ng 367 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Malaysia, Thailand, yung mga DVD 368 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or VCD pa ba yung pirated nun? 369 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mga dinab na Filipino 370 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: movies, di ba? Then sumikat 371 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang Bollywood and then 372 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: later on sumikat na yung Korea 373 01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:27,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but one of these days, whether it's 374 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:29,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipino food, whether it's yung 375 01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:31,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ube ngayon abroad, 376 01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's 377 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: our traditional hilot 378 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the massage, 379 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's our family 380 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: oriented culture, 381 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:43,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one of these days, magkakaroon 382 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:45,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng renaissance din ng 383 01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:47,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what is Filipino and with more than 384 01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:49,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 10 million Filipinos abroad, 385 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think your 386 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: commission 387 01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: needs an 388 01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: upgrade all around. 389 01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Personal, resources, 390 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: programs, etc. So sa 391 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: US alone, 392 01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:05,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at least when I was in DFA, they said 6 million 393 01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang tingin nilang 394 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may Filipino heritage. 395 01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Halo na daw yun na 396 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: TNT 397 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: totally Americano na 398 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dual citizen and everything. 399 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that's not a small number. 400 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Can you imagine if 10% of them 401 01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: travel to the Philippines, 402 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's 600,000. If each 403 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of them may isang anak or may isang asawa, 404 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na hindi 405 01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of Filipino descent, 406 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's 1.2 million. Ang highest 407 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: atin-atin sa tourism is 408 01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:37,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: around 1.6 million, which is 409 01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know if it's Koreans now or the Japanese. 410 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But my point is 411 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for every tourist that comes in, for every 412 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two tourists, two to three, 413 01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:47,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one Filipino job is created here. 414 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And like me, 415 01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:51,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: on my 416 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mother's side, my grandfather 417 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is German 418 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: American, but I've never 419 01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: been to the island which is in the 420 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:01,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: boundary of 421 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: France and Germany. 422 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I've never been there. 423 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I've never been in Germany per se. 424 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But if the German government 425 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: had a program 426 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and I got to go there 30 years 427 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ago, maybe every five years 428 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pumupunta. 429 01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala pa akong nakitang pute 430 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na turista na may 431 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: opportunity na pumunta ng Pilipinas once 432 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na hindi bumalik. 433 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In fact, if you look at let's say si Becoming 434 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipino, si Kulas, 435 01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:31,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he opted not to 436 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:33,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: leave anymore. 437 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:35,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We have a number of US personnel 438 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when we had US bases. 439 01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They married here 440 01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or some remarried 441 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and did not leave anymore. 442 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I know at least a few 443 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ambassadors who 444 01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: got married to a 445 01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:51,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipina after their assignment here 446 01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but they plan to 447 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: come back. So I leave it 448 01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at that thought na 449 01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if you can have a program to get 450 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: people of 451 01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:03,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipino blood 452 01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to be more conscious of their 453 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: motherland than to get 454 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: them here, I think we shouldn't 455 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: be short-sighted in parang ano yung 456 01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: immediate na babalik sa atin. 457 01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba kasi magtatanim ka talaga ng 458 01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: matagal-tagal. 459 01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean if you look at the Tulfos for example, 460 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I grew up knowing 461 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung eldest nyo si 462 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mon Tulfo at 463 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the time hindi pa SOCMED. It was really 464 01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: inquirer ba? 465 01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba inquirer? 466 01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But parang sa bilis ng panahon suddenly 467 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:35,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: silang magkakapatid. Ibat-ibang shows 468 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:37,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero suddenly popular 469 01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:39,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa lahat. Di ba? So 470 01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tanim lang ng tanim eh. Then you wake 471 01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: up one day nandoon. 472 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:45,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So you might be the right. May timing 473 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: din eh. May timing. I mean 474 01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what I'm saying now is not original. 475 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's probably also from people 476 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in your commission who I heard 477 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: years ago or 478 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: people from DFA who gave a couple 479 01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of ideas. 480 01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The last point I wanna make is that 481 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:03,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the few trips that I did 482 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: make as DFA Secretary, 483 01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:07,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang dami pala talagang official na 484 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pilipino. Di ba? Whether sa 485 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: US ay met nun yung Soljen 486 01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: who was 487 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipino din. Of course 488 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:17,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga actors 489 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:19,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and sports, baseball, 490 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basketball marami. But 491 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa New Zealand 492 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba meron isa na tumakbo 493 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:27,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Parliament. 494 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:29,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know now. But ang point ko 495 01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lang sir, mahirap 496 01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: makialam sa politika ng ibang bansa. 497 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But just connecting 498 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's New York City, Daly City, 499 01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:39,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's in Hawaii na maraming 500 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pilipino. I think that's 501 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: invaluable para sa 502 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa atin. So dati kasi 503 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: susulat ka pa, te-telegrama, mahirap 504 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: makontakt. Ngayon ma-meet mo 505 01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lang at may relationship ka. Whether sa messenger, 506 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: WhatsApp, Viber, 507 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can keep in touch. Yung iba nagro-group 508 01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chat pa. And the younger they are, 509 01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the more open they are to 510 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to 511 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to keeping in 512 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: touch and then to visiting each other's 513 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: country. So I did 514 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: most of the talking but I'd like to support 515 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:11,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a bigger budget in the plenary. 516 01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I think to do that 517 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and para hindi tayo 518 01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma-accus ng insertion yun, 519 01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:19,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there has to be a program. 520 01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I really think whether it's 521 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta kung saan pinakamaraming Pinoy 522 01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: was looking nandito sa 523 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's 524 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: US or yung 525 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:31,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pinoy pero 526 01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how do I put it? 527 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tinatarget natin sila na 528 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: visit the Philippines pero 529 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi sila necessarily 530 01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gagastusan mo kasi pupunta rin 531 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naman sila ngayon. So obviously 532 01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if OFW sila, may 533 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:47,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: programa na sa kanilang POEA or 534 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whatever. So 535 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Chairman, yun lang yung aking 536 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: input and 537 01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:55,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: my way of supporting 538 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the present programs by talking about 539 01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the other side, aside from 540 01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:01,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung... 541 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We do have a... 542 01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:05,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So like my mother, 543 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:07,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: she didn't take Filipino citizenship 544 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero nag-retiree. 545 01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So 546 01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:13,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and for example, Dumaguete 547 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is always in the top five, 548 01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: top three, top five 549 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: best place to retire in the world. 550 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Habang paganda ng paganda 551 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:23,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung Clark, I think 552 01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pala... 553 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So many places in the Philippines that could really 554 01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:29,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: be place for retirement 555 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or even for young people to 556 01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: study, baka pwede din sa commission 557 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nyo yun na parang 558 01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:37,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: study in the Philippines or 559 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: do a summer in the Philippines or 560 01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: put up a business in the 561 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippines, retire in the Philippines. Thank you 562 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Chairman. 563 01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Majority...Minority 564 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Leader. Isang question 565 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:51,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: lang po, Secretary. I wanted to question 566 01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: how many have you 567 01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: served the CFO? How many 568 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:57,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Filipinos or 569 01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: permanent residents have you served 570 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:01,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: last year? 571 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Mr. Chair, 572 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: about 70,000 po go 573 01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: through our office for the pre-departure orientation 574 01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: seminar. But as our 575 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: presentation showed po, 576 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we are looking to see how 577 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: the Honorable Minority Leader said, 578 01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: how we can also engage them to 579 01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: come back to the Philippines in various ways. 580 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:21,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: I'm glad po the Minority Leader 581 01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: brought up that very interesting program 582 01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and he may be 583 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: glad to know po that the CFO 584 01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: has the youth leaders in the 585 01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:31,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: diaspora program. This has been a decades 586 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: long program where 587 01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:35,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we invite young 588 01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: members of the Filipino diaspora 589 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: to come to the Philippines 590 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:41,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: to learn about our culture 591 01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and heritage. 592 01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Nagsimula po yung program na yan 593 01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:47,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: sa Lakbay Aral. Pero 594 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: over the years po, we 595 01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: inserted leadership 596 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:53,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: training components 597 01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: so that hindi lang po siya po 598 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:57,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: to resume. 599 01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: But importante rin po yan. 600 01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: So, 601 01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we haven't yet quantified po yung 602 01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:05,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: pabalik, but the ones outgoing po, 603 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: about 70,000 po. 604 01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Okay, thank you. 605 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:11,800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Thank you. 606 01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Do you have any more questions? You're good. 607 01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Well, anyway, there being no 608 01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: other questions, the fiscal 609 01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: year 2027 proposed budget 610 01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:21,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: of the Commission on Filipino Overseas 611 01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:23,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: is now being submitted for 612 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: consideration, subject to 613 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: the discussions and submission of 614 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: requested documents. Thank you, 615 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Secretary. And the CFO delegation 616 01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: is now permitted to leave the venue. 617 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: This budget briefing of 618 01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: the CFO is now over. Thank you. 619 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Budget briefing is suspended. 620 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:59,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: exclude ourselves to 80,000 events that have more than 20,000 participants, because the biggest exhibition center we have now is 18,000. Yung MOA po, ang PICC is 10,000, of course on two venues, and ang World Trade is 621 01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:29,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 14,000. Yun naman pong Philippine Arena, wala pong hotel, hindi maka-attract po ng international MICE events. So this will be colossal trade fairs. From the past and now, we had to turn away events because of the lack of facilities. Marami ho tayong tine-turn away. We will open ourselves and unlock the ability to host world rotating 622 01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:59,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: association congresses and global trade fairs. It will be a 140,000-square-meter main venue. The building will be [unclear] square meters and will be the biggest in Southeast Asia. For example, Singapore Trade Expo has a 120,000 623 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:29,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: square-meter area, but they attracted 1.5 million participants. A 140,000-square-meter venue at an industry standard 50 to 60 percent utilization rate could reasonably attract an additional 300,000 to 500,000 delegates. 624 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:59,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Nung nagpe-present po kami sa Nether Board, tinanong po, "Malaki naman yung halaga ng building ninyo. Bakit hindi na natin ibigay sa Department of Tourism yan?" Sabi po ng Department of Tourism, sila na sumagot para sa amin: "Your Honor, we would rather have the PIEC that will bring in the tourists." Right now, a regular tourist spends 6,000 per night, per day. 625 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:29,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Karamihan po ngayon ng tourists, mga backpackers, mga estudyante. But a tourist will bring in 30,000 dahil funded po sila ng korporasyon nila, ng gobyerno nila, and they will set up booths. This influx would represent a [unclear] increase over pre-pandemic baseline arrivals, [unclear] the Philippines into a top 626 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:59,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: global destination. Ngayon po tayo sa [unclear] because we only get [unclear] tourists. PIEC's return on investment is [unclear]. One is PIEC's economic effects. The PIEC is designed to generate economic value beyond 627 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: its immediate project. It will be a powerful catalyst for growth across sectors: commerce, tourism, real estate, transport, [unclear], services, IT, hotels, 628 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:59,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: shopping, restaurants, transport. It will not only [unclear] national taxes but local taxes. Number two, the PIEC will hasten real estate growth. We anticipate significant [unclear] from local and [unclear] partners, increasing appraisal of our own 629 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:29,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: real estate. Alam niyo po dito sa MOA, Financial at Entertainment City, it took us 49 years for [unclear] casinos, [unclear] hotels, tens of thousands of units and millions of square [unclear] for commercial and cultural purposes. May simbahan po, etc. 630 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:59,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi na po natin [unclear] 49 years. This will be an anchor tenant, and we believe we are already attracting inquiries from hotel owners. From 62,000 per square [unclear] ang valuation ng lupa two years ago when we conceived PIEC, at nalaman po internationally, 631 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:29,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: the value po ngayon, the last sale in the newly reclaimed area is already [unclear]. Sa appraisal value pa lang po ng Republika ng Pilipinas, the Republic owns [unclear] of the newly reclaimed land and about 400,000 [unclear]. 632 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:59,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So it is a total of about [unclear]. This appreciation in land value, the PIEC's ability to [unclear] property assets, enhance [unclear], create jobs and generate a stream of government revenue, a strong foundation for future investments and broader tax base and urban development. 633 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:27,640 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: As one of PBBM's legacy and flagship projects and infrastructure, PIEC is set to be a substantial source of government revenue stream over the next 50 years, a conservative estimate contribution to the national government of at least P422 billion based on PRA projections confirmed by the DOF, the NEDA, and the ICC. 634 01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:41,700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: This is conservative. The Ways and Means has estimated a higher value, the Congress Ways and Means Committee, which we are gladly to give you. 635 01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:55,720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: This long-term revenue position, PIEC, as a sustainable revenue source for government, reinforcing the financial infrastructure needed to fund essential government services. 636 01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:56,920 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ngayon po, 637 01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:09,540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: when we assumed office, 38 billion lang po noong November 2023, 38 billion lang po ang assets ng PRA. 638 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:14,160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ngayon po, 228 billion na. 639 01:54:14,780 --> 01:54:17,840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And soon, we project it to be 400 billion. 640 01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:26,840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And when we reach the full potential, that is when, kasi hindi naman natin pwede ibenta ng wala sa halagang ang lupa natin. 641 01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:35,520 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So when it reaches full potential, maybe two, three years from now, then doon po talaga makikinabang ang Republika ng Pilipinas. 642 01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:37,900 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So, impact on future generations. 643 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:47,220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC will serve as a foundation for job creation across various industries and forge stronger partnership within and across the border. 644 01:54:47,220 --> 01:54:54,220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: By delivering large-scale and integrated paradigm for development, the PIEC will broaden the landscape of office. 645 01:54:54,220 --> 01:54:56,300 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC will broaden the landscape of office. 646 01:54:56,300 --> 01:54:56,900 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC will broaden the landscape of office. 647 01:54:56,920 --> 01:55:08,060 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and showcase our greatest assets, our people, our culture, and stand as an enduring testament and its endeavors. 648 01:55:09,740 --> 01:55:17,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The project will be located on 81,000 square meters, owned by the PRA within the Pasay City Harbor Reclamation, 649 01:55:17,980 --> 01:55:25,720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: a newly reclaimed land within Pasay City, and it's part of a Pasay Eco-City coastal development, 650 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: which is about 6.5 million square meters. 651 01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:34,480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang natituluhan na ho dito, 135 hectares. 652 01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:37,960 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: This year, we expect another 225. 653 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:41,940 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And next year, the balance of 3 million square meters po. 654 01:55:41,940 --> 01:55:47,380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We are growing very fast, completing the projects very fast. 655 01:55:47,380 --> 01:55:55,540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: It will be connected to the mainland by 15 bridges that will be construed to be fully funded, 656 01:55:55,540 --> 01:56:00,420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: by the private sector, wala pong gastos ang gobyerno rito. 657 01:56:00,420 --> 01:56:09,880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: It will have 88 kilometers of road, it will have 120 kilometers of sewer lines and flood control, 658 01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:16,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and 22 kilometers of revetment. 659 01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:24,400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So yung sinasabi po nila, mawawala yung dagat po, yung isa pong project natin, yung SM, 660 01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:32,280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: pinaatras po ni Presidente ng 500 meters para magkaroon po ng gap between Sofitel area 661 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and the newly reclaimed area. 662 01:56:34,180 --> 01:56:41,480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kaya makikita niyo po that we will have 22 kilometers of new coastline. 663 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And lahat po ito, libre sa gobyerno. 664 01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:50,740 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We will have 88 kilometers of bike lane, sidewalk, free electricity and water lines to the government's 665 01:56:50,740 --> 01:56:53,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 3 million 100 square meters. 666 01:56:54,400 --> 01:57:00,660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We will have 312,000 square meters of parks and green spaces, all free of charge. 667 01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:04,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: This is made possible by the funding of the private sectors. 668 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:10,880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The immediate implementations of these projects have been accelerated through the construction 669 01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: of the PIEC. 670 01:57:12,580 --> 01:57:16,680 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Dahil may deadline po tayong minimit, lahat po nag-a-apport ngayon. 671 01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:21,440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Makikita niyo sa mga pictures, nandyan na po yung mga tulay, ginagawa na po. 672 01:57:21,820 --> 01:57:23,740 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Nandyan na yung mga kalye, ginagawa na po. 673 01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:29,580 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Seven of these bridges will be completed before the targeted date, completion date 674 01:57:29,580 --> 01:57:30,620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: of the PIEC. 675 01:57:30,620 --> 01:57:33,180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: As for before, wala ho silang date. 676 01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:38,360 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ngayon po, binilisan po namin para ma-jumpstart at umabot sa PIEC. 677 01:57:38,860 --> 01:57:47,280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Currently, we can benchmark PIEC against Singapore's 1.5 million tourists, Expo-level utilization, 678 01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:49,920 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Canton-style trade orientation. 679 01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:53,620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Of course, we cannot compare because they have a huge, huge competition. 680 01:57:54,400 --> 01:58:01,700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Canton Exhibition Center and Bangkok Po, which has 1.2 million exhibitors last year. 681 01:58:02,020 --> 01:58:09,700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Through the infrastructure presented earlier, we can develop PIEC and its immediate environs 682 01:58:09,700 --> 01:58:12,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: including transport, utilities. 683 01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:19,840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC is an exhibition and convention center envisioned to capture the growing demand 684 01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:24,380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: for meetings, incentives, conventions, and exhibitions. 685 01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,900 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Tourism in Southeast Asia. 686 01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:33,800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kami po sa PRA, we are positioning ourselves not to be a mice for Philippine products and 687 01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:39,820 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: people and events and meetings, but we want to steal some of the, sorry for the word po, 688 01:58:40,060 --> 01:58:48,820 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: we want to take some of the tourism from Singapore, which has 1.5 million mice participants 689 01:58:48,820 --> 01:58:51,720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: in Singapore Expo alone in Thailand. 690 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We are confident we can do this. 691 01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,420 Senator Erwin Tulfo: One quick question, Mr. Chairman. 692 01:58:57,260 --> 01:59:08,680 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ano po ang specific competitive advantage ng PIEC natin na wala sa existing convention and exhibition facilities 693 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: sa isang bangsa? 694 01:59:11,540 --> 01:59:18,080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: At ano po magiging dahilan para piliin ng international organizers ang PIEC natin 695 01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:21,660 Senator Erwin Tulfo: kaysa sa ibang venue sa Southeast Asia, Singapore, Thailand? 696 01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:24,760 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Sorry. 697 01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:30,480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Unang-una po, mura po ang labor dito. 698 01:59:30,980 --> 01:59:38,020 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Mas mura ang hotel natin sa Singapore at sa Thailand, lalo na pag nadatingan na ho yung mga mice tourists. 699 01:59:38,540 --> 01:59:41,100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang nagtatayo po ng boots dito, mura po. 700 01:59:41,660 --> 01:59:45,040 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And this will be a novelty for this exhibition. 701 01:59:45,260 --> 01:59:51,220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Alam nyo naman, marami ho dito sa nag-e-exhibition po, junket ang hinahanap. 702 01:59:51,220 --> 01:59:54,000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi naman pwede puro Thailand, Singapore. 703 01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At Japan at China lang sila. 704 01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,560 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So marami po rito nag-o-open. 705 01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:00,160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: In fact, we have already had... 706 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,360 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Some inquiries on this, no? 707 02:00:01,580 --> 02:00:03,400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Patanong ko lang din po, Mr. Chairman. 708 02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:15,300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: May projected number na po ba ang international conventions, exhibitions, events na inaasahan po natin na dadalhin po ng PIEC kada taon? 709 02:00:15,820 --> 02:00:19,460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ano po ang assumption at saan nyo po nakuha itong projections na ito? 710 02:00:19,460 --> 02:00:27,680 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang projections po namin, nakuha namin sa Department of Tourism po at data from Singapore and Thailand po. 711 02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:36,260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 1.5 million po ang nakuha po ng Singapore Expo last year. 712 02:00:36,780 --> 02:00:43,440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And Singapore Expo is only 120,000 square meters. 713 02:00:44,060 --> 02:00:50,640 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And Thailand which is 240,000 square meters, nakakuha po ng 1.2 million. 714 02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:53,340 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Of course, these are developed, we cannot compare. 715 02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:57,200 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So we go at a very low level sa umpisa po. 716 02:00:57,200 --> 02:01:05,000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi 140,000 po ang makakuha lang tayo ng isa o dalawang event na kalahati po noon. 717 02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:07,220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Di 140,000 tourists na po. 718 02:01:07,820 --> 02:01:12,460 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Spending at an average of 30,000, malaki na po. 719 02:01:13,580 --> 02:01:21,840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So, this will be the largest in Southeast Asia with 243,000 square meters. 720 02:01:22,220 --> 02:01:25,660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And we would like to thank the President for his vision. 721 02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:26,840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: In thinking of... 722 02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:29,180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: To engage in MICE. 723 02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:32,960 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So, at least we are thinking big in economics. 724 02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:39,880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So, it aims to represent the country as a nation that is international in its outlook and ambitions 725 02:01:39,880 --> 02:01:45,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: with a desire to engage with the global community and foster connection. 726 02:01:46,380 --> 02:01:54,640 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC aims to be a catalyst, not only of MICE events, but a meeting place to showcase not only Philippine products, 727 02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: culture, arts, history, and culture. 728 02:01:57,200 --> 02:02:09,260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: But also the Philippines' plan to position itself as a meeting place and trading center of Asian products, culture, people, history, and tradition. 729 02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:20,780 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC being the biggest exhibition center in Southeast Asia and having the cheapest cost, skilled labor, friendly and English-speaking population, 730 02:02:20,780 --> 02:02:26,780 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and cheap booth construction, and cost to produce. 731 02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:37,880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: These events, for MICE events, among countries with big exhibition center, enhances the reputation of our Southeast Asia. 732 02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:57,180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Alam niyo po, we had recently signed with the late Docs Kua a memorandum for the League of Governors to give all the provinces 50 square meters to exhibit their indigenous products. 733 02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:02,200 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And we are signing with the cultural center dahil kulang daw sila ng exhibition spaces. 734 02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:12,200 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And with the PIEC, PICC, another MOA po para po makapag-exhibit ang cultural center. 735 02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:17,480 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mr. Chairman, let me cut you there. 736 02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:25,300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Dito lang po ba nakasentro sa inyong presentation sa PIEC na project, ang inyong presentation this afternoon. 737 02:03:25,300 --> 02:03:26,300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Otherwise, if we will just be... 738 02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:31,740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: We will be centered on spend most of our time explaining PIEC. 739 02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ako pa tatanungin nyo, buhay benta po ito. 740 02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:36,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I mean, mabenta po sa akin. 741 02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:38,440 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kung tatanungin nyo, okay po ito. 742 02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:43,340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: But I have a few questions and of course, our minority leader would also ask questions. 743 02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:44,500 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We will be happy to answer. 744 02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:48,160 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mabilisan lang ito. I hope pa, hindi na po tayo tatagal sa PIEC. 745 02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:49,340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Maganda po yan. 746 02:03:49,460 --> 02:03:52,740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Yung kanina po nag-usap tayo, pinipresent yun sa atin. 747 02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:54,920 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: It's a pride of our country, sir. 748 02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:56,280 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Tanong ko lang po. 749 02:03:57,200 --> 02:04:03,340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Is it expected po ba na self-sustaining itong PIEC o kailangan pa rin natin na annual government subsidy? 750 02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Wala na po. Wala na pong government subsidy. 751 02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:14,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: In fact, ang sagot lang po ng national government dito ay yung building lang po. 752 02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:25,100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Yung pang-furnitures, fixtures, yung mga equipment, yung mga ano, will be shouldered by PRA, yung parking lot po. 753 02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:26,800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Not the personnel. 754 02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:35,720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Of course, kailangan po natin mga electricity dyan, water, personnel, pasweldo. 755 02:04:36,100 --> 02:04:38,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ilan tao po ang kakailanganin nyo dyan? 756 02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:40,980 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Dapat po lahat ito, naka-breakdown. 757 02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:45,160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: On a small scale, all the exhibition centers naman make money. 758 02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:52,160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi talagang in demand po, katulad po nung eskwelahan po ng misis ko po, in Lyceum, 759 02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:56,560 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: they only have 3,000 graduates. 760 02:04:56,800 --> 02:05:01,240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi sila makapag-graduate po ng sabay-sabay. 761 02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:03,780 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At iniimbita nila isa lang po. 762 02:05:04,260 --> 02:05:06,640 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi wala po tayong exhibition center. 763 02:05:07,020 --> 02:05:13,460 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At malaki po ang binabayad ng bawat isa po na makapaupa po. 764 02:05:13,700 --> 02:05:20,280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And you multiply this all over, baka sa Pilipinas lang po, fully jump-pack na po ito. 765 02:05:20,420 --> 02:05:23,700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi ang dami talagang, kulang talaga tayo ng events places. 766 02:05:23,700 --> 02:05:26,380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: As you will know, CSM po. 767 02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:34,440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Yung opisina po nila, kinalahati nila, giniba nila para makapagtayo ng another exhibition center. 768 02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:38,680 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Yan, makikita nyo po. Manggaling dito, papunta sa Moa. 769 02:05:40,180 --> 02:05:45,080 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Giniba po nila yung offices nila para makapagtayo po ng exhibition center. 770 02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:47,100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ganun po kalaki ang demand na exhibition. 771 02:05:47,780 --> 02:05:50,620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At ang pangulo po natin ay hindi magpapahuli. 772 02:05:50,620 --> 02:05:55,620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At nauna po, with this vision, we commend him for... 773 02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:00,800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: for coming up with this project and we are supporting it po. 774 02:06:01,020 --> 02:06:05,500 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Alright, Mr. Chairman. With the indulgence of our minority leader, okay na po sa inyo. 775 02:06:05,580 --> 02:06:11,080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Para sa akin eh. Okay na po itong presentation ng PIEC or you have questions pa about PIEC? 776 02:06:11,100 --> 02:06:12,140 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 20 pages na lang po. 777 02:06:13,220 --> 02:06:14,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Joke. Joke pa, boss. 778 02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:17,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Go ahead po. Go ahead po, minority leader. 779 02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:19,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 780 02:06:19,340 --> 02:06:23,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Actually, yung questions ko ay para kay GM at assistant GM. 781 02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:24,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But on this lang, sir. 782 02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:26,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Um... 783 02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:33,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: First, eto, public service din. Parang radio program ni Senator Tulfo. May nagpapatanong. 784 02:06:33,980 --> 02:06:41,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung Las Piñas wetland park land title, kailan daw po itatransfer ng PRA to DENR? 785 02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:44,740 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: See, there was a bill. 786 02:06:45,660 --> 02:06:48,180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: There was a bill to have it transferred. 787 02:06:48,180 --> 02:06:52,660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And I think it was passed by Congress and the Senate. 788 02:06:53,340 --> 02:06:55,800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: But the President po vetoed the bill. 789 02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:58,200 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At hindi na po itatransfer. 790 02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, it will be kept by PRA? 791 02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:02,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. 792 02:07:02,580 --> 02:07:05,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige. So, malamang yung follow-up question neto sa plenary na, Mr. Chair. 793 02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:07,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At least natanong ko lang. 794 02:07:07,660 --> 02:07:08,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Second, Chair. 795 02:07:09,860 --> 02:07:11,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir Chairman, so tama po ba ako? 796 02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:18,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, yung iniingin yung total na 27 billion will be doon sa development netong PIEC? 797 02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:19,660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The building lang po. 798 02:07:19,980 --> 02:07:25,240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At this budget, dumaan lang sa amin as a subsidy. 799 02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:26,540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi kami ang may-ari. 800 02:07:27,260 --> 02:07:29,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kayo may-ari nung lupa? 801 02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:31,660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi lang ng lupa. Pati ho nung project. 802 02:07:31,940 --> 02:07:36,000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi nung mga kami ang magpupuno dahil may konti nga kaming cash. 803 02:07:36,060 --> 02:07:37,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, that's what I wanted to clarify. 804 02:07:37,540 --> 02:07:41,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung lupa na na-reclaim is yung share nyo sa ibang projects. 805 02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:47,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, rather than flipping it or selling it or bidding it out, 806 02:07:48,380 --> 02:07:53,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you want to see if, yun nga, given such a ambitious good project, 807 02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:55,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can... 808 02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:56,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can do it this way. 809 02:07:57,160 --> 02:07:59,240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: With your indulgence, not only that, 810 02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:03,540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: biglahong tumaas ang presyo po ng lupa namin. 811 02:08:03,700 --> 02:08:06,340 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi this is only 80,000 square. 812 02:08:06,460 --> 02:08:07,620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We still have 3 million. 813 02:08:08,260 --> 02:08:09,460 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Nung nilagay namin ito... 814 02:08:09,460 --> 02:08:10,400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And even the other developments. 815 02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:13,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi kahit sabihin mong competitor sila, 816 02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:15,260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: pag ganyang kaganda yung katabi, 817 02:08:15,820 --> 02:08:16,400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: tumataas. 818 02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:20,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Diba? Like when ginawa yung Santa Rosa or ginawa BGC, 819 02:08:20,500 --> 02:08:21,420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: ginawa Rockwell, 820 02:08:22,020 --> 02:08:24,440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: automatically tumataas din yung mga katabi. 821 02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:25,060 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 64. 822 02:08:25,060 --> 02:08:28,400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 24,000 nga po, two years ago, ang appraisal sa amin. 823 02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ngayon po, ang appraisal, 300,000 na po. 824 02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:32,520 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Marami na pong bumili. 825 02:08:32,920 --> 02:08:37,080 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 24 hectares na po ang nabili after we have a... 826 02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:38,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, last two questions. 827 02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:39,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May... 828 02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:41,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Just to support your question kanina, 829 02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:45,100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Senator Caetano. 830 02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:47,900 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Yung sinasabing nyo po na 27 billion, 831 02:08:48,180 --> 02:08:50,120 Senator Erwin Tulfo: for your information, minority leader, 832 02:08:50,860 --> 02:08:53,300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: actually, 6 billion po ang inilabas 833 02:08:53,300 --> 02:08:54,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: sa unprogrammed appropriations po ng 2024 GAA, 834 02:08:54,780 --> 02:08:57,380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: some appropriations po ng 2024, ga-a. 835 02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:00,100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Tapos, nagdagdaga ng 6 billion naman, 836 02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:03,340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: contingency fund ng 2026, ga-a. 837 02:09:03,820 --> 02:09:04,800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, total na po, 838 02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:07,740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: tapos sumingi po kayo nga ng 5 billion for 2027. 839 02:09:08,180 --> 02:09:10,100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, that will be 17 billion. 840 02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:12,020 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ang estimate po, 27. 841 02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:14,240 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, kulang pa po ng 10 billion. 842 02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:15,180 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Is that what you're saying? 843 02:09:15,540 --> 02:09:17,760 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Nasaan na po tayo ngayon sa construction? 844 02:09:18,060 --> 02:09:18,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ilang percent? 845 02:09:18,820 --> 02:09:20,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madagdag-dagdagan ko lang po yung katabi. 846 02:09:20,540 --> 02:09:20,780 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We are... 847 02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:22,100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Alam nyo naman po, 848 02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:23,800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: construction is an S-curve. 849 02:09:23,900 --> 02:09:24,540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Mabagal po. 850 02:09:24,780 --> 02:09:25,700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang akyat niyan, 851 02:09:26,340 --> 02:09:28,480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: nasa 11% po tayo. 852 02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:30,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: But the DPWH, 853 02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:33,100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: we have a program of expenditures 854 02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:35,280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: signed by the DPWH. 855 02:09:35,820 --> 02:09:37,260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hiningan po namin sila. 856 02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:41,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Sila po ang nagsabi nitong pangangailangan na to. 857 02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:43,960 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Sila ang nagprogram sa amin 858 02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:46,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: kasi kami, daanan lang ng pera. 859 02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:48,740 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi ko malaman, sila nag-bid. 860 02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:50,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think what the chairman means is, 861 02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so how much do you need for 2027? 862 02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:54,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Five lang po. 863 02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:54,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Five. 864 02:09:54,780 --> 02:09:56,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And then 2028, five ulit. 865 02:09:57,540 --> 02:09:58,360 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ten po. 866 02:09:58,580 --> 02:10:04,340 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Pero according to DBM and to Secretary of Public Works, 867 02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:06,420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and upon my request, 868 02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:08,560 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: ililipat na ho namin sa kanila 869 02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:09,960 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: kasi tumatagal yung ikot. 870 02:10:10,060 --> 02:10:11,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Although three days lang sa amin, 871 02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:13,000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: ayaw namin hawakan ho yung pera. 872 02:10:13,460 --> 02:10:17,460 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi gusto namin talaga maging successful ang uto 873 02:10:17,460 --> 02:10:19,240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: kasi napakaganda po sa bayan ito. 874 02:10:19,260 --> 02:10:20,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What's the completion date nito, Mr. Chairman? 875 02:10:21,460 --> 02:10:23,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When are we looking at? 876 02:10:23,660 --> 02:10:24,220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: April. 877 02:10:24,780 --> 02:10:25,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: April 2028. 878 02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:29,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So we have already several events lined up 879 02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:32,400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: for April and May 2028. 880 02:10:32,700 --> 02:10:33,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, on that point, 881 02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:36,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi madali maghanap ng pera. 882 02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:37,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But on that point, 883 02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:40,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung hinahabol ng April 2028, 884 02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:43,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ba too late kung yung 10B 2028 pa ibibigay? 885 02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:47,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi given certain delays and everything, 886 02:10:47,700 --> 02:10:49,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: katulad ngayon, it's September. 887 02:10:49,540 --> 02:10:51,900 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Malaki po dito retention po, sir. 888 02:10:52,780 --> 02:10:54,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: They will have retention 889 02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,020 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and I think the construction's final billing 890 02:10:57,020 --> 02:10:58,500 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: will not be released 891 02:10:58,500 --> 02:11:01,060 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: until they have fully completed. 892 02:11:01,060 --> 02:11:03,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So in your estimation, walang delay 893 02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta't mabigay yung 5B in 2027? 894 02:11:07,140 --> 02:11:08,700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. At kung kakapusin man, 895 02:11:09,300 --> 02:11:11,100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: ay mangungutang po kami, 896 02:11:11,240 --> 02:11:14,060 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: babayaran na lang po nung makukuha ang budget sa 2028. 897 02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:16,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So the next question I was going to ask is, 898 02:11:17,420 --> 02:11:19,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in general, I know there are a lot of components, 899 02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:20,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but are you saying, 900 02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:22,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and of course, kayo naman ang Philippine Reclamation, 901 02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:25,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: authority, 902 02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:28,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that okay naman ang reclamation, 903 02:11:28,420 --> 02:11:30,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta't number one, it's for public purpose, 904 02:11:31,380 --> 02:11:32,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two, it's sustainable, 905 02:11:32,900 --> 02:11:34,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and it follows with the environment? 906 02:11:34,460 --> 02:11:34,800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Yes, sir. 907 02:11:34,900 --> 02:11:35,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi lang sa pasa yan? 908 02:11:36,060 --> 02:11:36,420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi po. 909 02:11:36,700 --> 02:11:39,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm sure, kahit nasaan ka, private sector, PRA, 910 02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:41,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mal na mal mo ang siyudad mo ng Manila. 911 02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:41,940 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. 912 02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:43,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So basta't public, sustainable? 913 02:11:44,140 --> 02:11:44,480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. 914 02:11:44,660 --> 02:11:45,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kahit sa tagig? 915 02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:45,820 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. 916 02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:47,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, very good. 917 02:11:47,500 --> 02:11:49,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So after that, Mr. President, 918 02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:51,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have some questions for the GM. 919 02:11:51,460 --> 02:11:52,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Go ahead. 920 02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:53,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: With your permission, Chairman. 921 02:11:54,120 --> 02:11:55,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mamaya na ako sa second round. 922 02:11:55,620 --> 02:11:57,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The reason why I want to ask the Chairman, 923 02:11:57,620 --> 02:12:02,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: just because sila yung pumirman ng mga letters and everything. 924 02:12:03,420 --> 02:12:05,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So magandang hapon sa PRA family. 925 02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:08,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Congressman Crisologo, nice to see you again. 926 02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:13,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, takidefine lang ang reclamation. 927 02:12:15,900 --> 02:12:16,800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Your Honor, 928 02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:21,280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: sa aking pagkaintindi po sa reclamation ay isa pong pamamaraan na 929 02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:24,080 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: tinatambakan po yung tubig at makikita, 930 02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:29,160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: magkikreate po tayo ng lupa para ito ay gamitin for a certain postponement. 931 02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:30,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 932 02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:32,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't argue with that, Tinagalog mo, 933 02:12:32,940 --> 02:12:38,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but actually sa NEDA-PRA Joint Order No. 01-2015, 934 02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:39,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: January 12, 2015, 935 02:12:40,060 --> 02:12:43,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: PRA's EO No. 74, Series 2019, 936 02:12:43,980 --> 02:12:46,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the deliberate process of converting foreshore land, 937 02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:48,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: submerged areas of bodies of water, 938 02:12:48,940 --> 02:12:52,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: into land by filling or other means using dredge fill 939 02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:53,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and other suitable materials, 940 02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:55,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for specific purposes. 941 02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:56,380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Correct. 942 02:12:56,380 --> 02:12:56,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 943 02:12:58,380 --> 02:13:00,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Next question po. 944 02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:10,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar with the West of Manggahan flood control project? 945 02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:11,860 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: What's it? 946 02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:15,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Flood control project. 947 02:13:15,400 --> 02:13:15,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 948 02:13:15,900 --> 02:13:18,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So you are not familiar with that. 949 02:13:18,780 --> 02:13:23,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That is a March 1997 project. 950 02:13:23,020 --> 02:13:23,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. That is a March 1997 project. 951 02:13:23,560 --> 02:13:29,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That is a 9.411 billion yen ODA project. 952 02:13:29,620 --> 02:13:37,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is the PRA familiar with the Taguig C6 road dike project? 953 02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:39,860 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Your Honor, 954 02:13:40,580 --> 02:13:43,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: pangatloon taong po ko pa ito kasi hindi ko pa po alam kung 955 02:13:43,980 --> 02:13:48,360 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: nung pumasok ako dito ay meron na po yan mga control project. 956 02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:48,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 957 02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:53,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So are you familiar of the development of the Taguig C6, 958 02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:56,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 26 road dike and West of Manggahan project 959 02:13:56,460 --> 02:13:59,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: between 2007 to 2009? 960 02:13:59,620 --> 02:14:00,720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Pasit siya na po, Your Honor. 961 02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:01,620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi po ako familiar. 962 02:14:01,620 --> 02:14:04,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar of the opening of the roads 963 02:14:04,860 --> 02:14:09,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the development of the retaining channels 964 02:14:09,940 --> 02:14:15,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the pumping stations during Pinoy's time from 2010 to 2016? 965 02:14:15,880 --> 02:14:17,500 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi po, Your Honor. 966 02:14:17,500 --> 02:14:21,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar that Secretary Vince Dizon, 967 02:14:21,660 --> 02:14:23,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary Mark Vigilar, 968 02:14:23,560 --> 02:14:29,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary Diokno visited and went in one of the landing sites 969 02:14:29,360 --> 02:14:33,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in that project and said napakaganda nito doblehin natin 970 02:14:33,900 --> 02:14:37,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: from two lanes gawin natin four lanes in 2018? 971 02:14:37,220 --> 02:14:44,420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Your Honor, kung yun po ang sinasabi po ng ating Department of Public Works and Highways, 972 02:14:44,420 --> 02:14:47,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: sumasangayon po ang PRA sa mga development. 973 02:14:47,120 --> 02:14:47,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 974 02:14:47,620 --> 02:14:53,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So are you familiar that in the year 2020 kasama si Congressman Crisolo, 975 02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:59,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there was a 14 billion allotment? 976 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:17,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Para gumawa ng right-of-way or flyover from the Laguna Lake going to a certain highway of the San Miguel Corp. 977 02:15:17,800 --> 02:15:28,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That was unacceptable to Taguigenos because more than 10,000 houses would have been demolished and there are more than 1,000 ancestors. 978 02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:29,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar with that? 979 02:15:30,460 --> 02:15:33,440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Your Honor, again, hindi po ako familiar. 980 02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:36,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay sa akin kung hindi ka familiar doon. 981 02:15:36,760 --> 02:15:42,260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Meron po kaming kasama dito po si Attorney Literal na siya pong nauna sa amin dito sa kanyang... 982 02:15:42,260 --> 02:15:45,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, I will transfer to him. Please feel free to interject anytime. 983 02:15:45,700 --> 02:15:53,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But siguro ang unang lesson sa inyo, huwag kayong pipirma ng sulat or magsasalita kung hindi ka familiar. 984 02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:59,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? Di sana ang sumulat at ang magsalita ay yung siya. 985 02:15:59,760 --> 02:15:59,980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Noted. 986 02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:06,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Atty. Joseph Literal, sir, are you familiar with the West of Manggahan project? 987 02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:12,500 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, yung sa flood? 988 02:16:13,380 --> 02:16:25,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, it's a ODAF project sealed by Secretary Vigilar and then implemented during GMA's time na. 989 02:16:25,580 --> 02:16:27,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary Datumanong, are you familiar? 990 02:16:28,060 --> 02:16:29,660 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir, pero hindi po. 991 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:30,780 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: As PRA po. 992 02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:31,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 993 02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:31,780 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: But I'm familiar. 994 02:16:31,860 --> 02:16:32,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're familiar. 995 02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:32,940 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Opo. 996 02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:35,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, but sir, kayo galing kayo DNR, di ba? 997 02:16:36,660 --> 02:16:37,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sino pong galing DNR? 998 02:16:39,140 --> 02:16:39,740 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Your Honor. 999 02:16:40,380 --> 02:16:41,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kailan ka nag-NCR, sir? 1000 02:16:42,940 --> 02:16:46,800 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: DNR po, 1986 po. 1001 02:16:47,180 --> 02:16:47,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, matagal ka na. 1002 02:16:47,960 --> 02:16:50,440 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Pero sa Environmental Management Bureau po ako natin. 1003 02:16:50,440 --> 02:16:50,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, okay. 1004 02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:59,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sir, are you familiar that there were three possible alignments of the Manggahan floodway? 1005 02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:05,000 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Sir, I'm just familiar with what is existing. 1006 02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:15,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, the three alignments was inland, tapos yung sa tubig, tapos doon sa yung present alignment ngayon. 1007 02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:18,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, are you familiar with the present alignment ngayon? 1008 02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:21,000 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: The C6, Your Honor? 1009 02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:22,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. 1010 02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:26,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan hektarya ng existing land, hindi for land. 1011 02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:30,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Existing land is outside the dike. 1012 02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:35,000 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Hindi pa ako familiar sa exacto. 1013 02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:45,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero ang dami nang lumalabas sa news na iniimbestigahan niyo, 90 hectares, 170 hectares, hindi niyo man lang kinokorek ang media. 1014 02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:48,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How many hectares is outside the dike? 1015 02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:55,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, actually, we have used the GIS. 1016 02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:58,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Since when yung GIS? 1017 02:17:58,000 --> 02:17:59,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ginamit niyo yung ano, di ba? 1018 02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:00,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1019 02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:02,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: From when? 1020 02:18:02,000 --> 02:18:03,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we're doing... 1021 02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:04,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, what date? 1022 02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:09,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Since early 2000 until present. 1023 02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:15,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Ano ang sinabi sa akin ni Secretary Vigilar nung 1999? Do you know? 1024 02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:17,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi. Not aware. 1025 02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:28,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, he told me, hindi ko muna sasabihin sa iyo kung ilan daan hektarya, na pag ginawa yung dike as is, mag-eerode yung lupa. Kasi nasa labas siya ng dike. 1026 02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:44,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, will your aerial show the historical land-ownings of LLDA or will it only give you a partial picture? 1027 02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:56,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, actually, the GIS and the satellite viewing using the backtracking on the years, 1028 02:18:56,000 --> 02:19:07,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: it would only show not what is shore land or other areas but only what has been submerged before and what is now covered. 1029 02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:08,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, noong 2000. 1030 02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:09,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1031 02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:25,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O ano bang taon ang batas ng LLDA? 1960s, 1970s? O gano kalalim ang lake ng 1960s? Alam mo? O more or less 30 feet, more or less 10 meters. Gano kalalim ang Laguna Lake ngayon? 1032 02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:27,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, about 3 or 4 meters. 1033 02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:31,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Gano kadaming puno na naputol sa Laguna at saka sa Luizal? 1034 02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:34,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Honestly, wala po. 1035 02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:36,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Gano karami na nag-eerode? 1036 02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:42,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, tanungin ko sa inyo ngayon, are you familiar with torrents, land titling? 1037 02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:43,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1038 02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:51,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kung nagkaroon ng torrents, meron siyang land title 30 years ago, walang nag-dispute, walang problema. 1039 02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:54,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dahil nagka dike, tumaas yung torrents. 1040 02:19:54,000 --> 02:20:00,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tumaas yung tubig, nakuha yung part ng tubig. Is that now not a titled land anymore? 1041 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, it's still a titled land. 1042 02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:04,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But sa media, anong pinapalabas? 1043 02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:15,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you make those qualifications sa media na we're still looking, na marami kaming hindi alam dyan? 1044 02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:22,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we just gave an estimate on the area which were previously underwater, 1045 02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:28,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: which are now dry land, Mr. Chair. 1046 02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:34,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Vis-a-vis what? You don't even know how many dry land was there historically. 1047 02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:43,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nandun sa papeles ng JICA, sinubmit sa JICA, 27 years ago, 1,300 hectares. 1048 02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:49,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There is 1,300 hectares of land outside the lake. 1049 02:20:49,000 --> 02:20:55,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I do not know how much is titled or not because hindi naman ako LRA. 1050 02:20:55,000 --> 02:20:57,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? O, let me continue. 1051 02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:08,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, do you agree with the definition of the GM dun sa reclamation? 1052 02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:09,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Your Honor. 1053 02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:11,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Yung binasa ko, tama? 1054 02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:14,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: That's under our policy, Your Honor. 1055 02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:19,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, are you familiar with the 2007 construction of the C6? 1056 02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:20,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa road dike? 1057 02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:21,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Your Honor. 1058 02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:28,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Are you, 2013, panahon ni Pinoy, are you familiar with the development there? 1059 02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:35,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: With the project, the lakeshore project which did not push through, yes, Sir, Your Honor. 1060 02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:40,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba pa yun? 2015 yun. Yun yung C6 na 8 lanes, diba? 1061 02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:41,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1062 02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:43,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA yun? 1063 02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:47,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Binid yun, diba? Hindi lang natuloy. 1064 02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:48,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Po. 1065 02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:50,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA? 1066 02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:51,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi, Po. 1067 02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:55,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How about yung Manggahan-Cladway? Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA yun? 1068 02:21:55,000 --> 02:21:56,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi rin, Po. 1069 02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:58,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero do you classify that as a reclamation? 1070 02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:01,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. Yes, Sir. 1071 02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:02,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero hindi kumuha ng permit sa inyo? 1072 02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:03,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Po. 1073 02:22:03,000 --> 02:22:07,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, sa yung panahon ni Pinoy na hindi rin kumuha? 1074 02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:08,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi, Po. 1075 02:22:08,000 --> 02:22:16,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Sa House of Representatives, tinanong sa inyo whether or not in other parts of the Laguna Lake, Rizal, Laguna, 1076 02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:19,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung kumuha ng permit sa inyo sa reclamation, meron ba? 1077 02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:20,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Wala, Po. 1078 02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:22,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala? As of now, wala? 1079 02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:23,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Wala, Po. 1080 02:22:23,000 --> 02:22:35,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, pero pag meron reclamation doon, na nakita niyo ngayon, kahit siya ay sa gobyerno, you will ask the DPWH to stop it? 1081 02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:43,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, that's part of our complete stop work, Your Honor. Hingi po kami ng records and then we'll have them comply. 1082 02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:45,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, did you ask the DPWH for the records for the Tagalog? 1083 02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:48,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Your Honor. 1084 02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:52,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And then, kailan niyo sinabing cease and desist? 1085 02:22:52,000 --> 02:23:03,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Even before that, Sir, meron na po kaming show cause on the Laguna Lakeshore Road Network. 1086 02:23:03,000 --> 02:23:05,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kanino niyo in-issue, Sir, ang show cause? 1087 02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:07,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sa DPWH, Po. 1088 02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:09,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you have a copy? 1089 02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:12,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: We have a letter since 2024. 1090 02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:13,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2020? 1091 02:23:13,000 --> 02:23:14,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Four. 1092 02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:15,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two? 1093 02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:16,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2024? 1094 02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:17,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1095 02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:18,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kay Secretary Bonoan pa lang? 1096 02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:19,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1097 02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:25,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, pinatigil niyo rin ba yung Laguna Lake Road Network? 1098 02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:40,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, we asked for the details and whether there is a reclamation and then they answered that it's just a road network and they are making sure through PRA that there would be no reclamation. 1099 02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:44,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Very good. Can I see the picture of the LLRN? 1100 02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:47,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Kaming po dito. 1101 02:23:47,000 --> 02:24:11,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, take note, Mr. Chairman, Mr. GM. Sabi ng Deputy GM niyo, kapag katagig, kailangan may complete staff work. Kailangan kunin lahat. Pero pag ibang part ng Laguna Lake, okay lang yung sabi-sabi ng DPWH. Hindi niya hiningi yung papers eh. Sinabi niya, okay lang sa inyo na tanungin lang sila. 1102 02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:14,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At ang sinabi daw, there is no reclamation. 1103 02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:35,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano tawag mo sa kulay pula at kulay blue na yun? Which is about anywhere between 100 to 100 meters from the shoreline to 1 kilometer from the shoreline. Ano tawag mo dyan? 8 lanes yan sa tubig gagawin. Hindi reclamation yan? 1104 02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:38,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, Your Honor… 1105 02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:40,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasa website yan ng LLDA. 1106 02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:41,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1107 02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:42,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasa website yan ng DPWH. 1108 02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:43,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1109 02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:45,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hindi reclamation yan? 1110 02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:46,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Reclamation. 1111 02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:48,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa definition niyo, reclamation yan, di ba? 1112 02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:49,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1113 02:24:49,000 --> 02:24:50,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sa iyo hindi reclamation yan? 1114 02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:51,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Reclamation, Sir. 1115 02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:53,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit hindi niyo in-issue ng cease of business? 1116 02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:54,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, there is… 1117 02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:55,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi hindi tagig yan? 1118 02:24:55,000 --> 02:24:56,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Ano, Sir? 1119 02:24:56,000 --> 02:25:03,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi mo kanina eh, kapag meron kayong nakita, ipapa-full staff work niyo. Sabi niyo, ang tagig, pinul staff work niyo. 1120 02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:04,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1121 02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:12,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung tinanong ko sa iyo, paano naman yung Laguna Lake Road Network, tinanong mo lang sa DPWH. At sinagot na walang reclamation. Ano tawag mo? 1122 02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:13,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, there is… 1123 02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:19,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano tawag mo diyan, Sir? Sagutin mo nalang tanong ko, please. Ano tawag mo diyan? Hindi ba reclamation yan? 1124 02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:20,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1125 02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:22,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, under your definition, reclamation yan? 1126 02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:23,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1127 02:25:23,000 --> 02:25:24,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, ba't hindi niyo isis and desis? 1128 02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:29,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, Sir, they have committed to realign, redesign the project… 1129 02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:31,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They're not. They're building it already. 1130 02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:32,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1131 02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:33,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, they're building it already. 1132 02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:34,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, yes, Sir. 1133 02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:38,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How many times bigger yan, yung pinag-uusapan natin sa tagig? 1134 02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:41,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, they would be complying with our requirements. 1135 02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:42,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1136 02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:48,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How will they comply with your requirements? While they're doing it now, they're building. 1137 02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:49,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1138 02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:53,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ba requirement niyo bago mag-reclaim, kailangan kompleto pati sa checklist? 1139 02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:56,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: That's for regular reclamation, Your Honor. 1140 02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:58,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, ano ba itong tawag sakali? 1141 02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:09,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: But there are instances wherein this had been approved by the government, but because they did not go through the PRA process, they would have a post facto compliance. 1142 02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:11,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, no, Sir. Huwag mo akong bulahin. 1143 02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:15,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Huwag mo akong bulahin. Yung post niyo, binasa ko yung rules niyo. 1144 02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:16,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1145 02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:28,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang sinasabi dito, kapag ka ang national government or local government ay nag-reclaim at unauthorized, pwede silang mag-apply na mapunta sa kanila. Hindi ibig sabihin na pag wala silang permit, pwede lang ituloy-tuloy. 1146 02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:38,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, you have to decide now. Do you have jurisdiction over LLDA or not? If you have, then you have to stop all of the illegal reclamation. 1147 02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:40,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ongoing ngayon yung DPWH project. 1148 02:26:40,000 --> 02:26:54,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na damuhala ang laki compared sa tagig. Na hindi nag-submit sa inyo ng feasibility study. Na hindi nag-submit sa inyo ng environmental study. So, you will ignore that? Bakit? 1149 02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:55,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, Sir. 1150 02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:58,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, you're ignoring it now. You're not asking them to stop it. 1151 02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:00,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we are now coordinating. 1152 02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:05,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, no, no. You're not coordinating. You do not have a letter to cease and desist. You do not have a letter to show cause. 1153 02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:08,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we have a letter with the DPWH. 1154 02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:09,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Telling them to stop it. 1155 02:27:09,000 --> 02:27:10,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Telling them to stop it. 1156 02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:20,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: And then they also filed, Sir, the information about the LLRN, Your Honor. It's part of our CSW at present. 1157 02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:30,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Sundan ko, Honorable Board, sundan ko logic ng inyong deputy. So, kung yan ang gawin ng tagig, wala na tayong problema? 1158 02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:32,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, yes, Sir. 1159 02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:35,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, pag sinubmit nila yung information, tapos pinakita nila ng gobyerno. 1160 02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:37,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we'll go through the process, Your Honor. 1161 02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:42,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Of the regularization of the unauthorized projects. 1162 02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:50,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, I'll ask you. Hindi sinasubmit sa inyo ng DPWH kasi sa Friday nandito sila. Sino proponent ng LLRN? 1163 02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:53,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, it's Laguna Lake Development Authority and DPWH. 1164 02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:55,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, no. No, it's DPWH. 1165 02:27:55,000 --> 02:27:56,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1166 02:27:56,000 --> 02:28:00,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. O, sino ang proponent ng mga sinisist and desist nyo sa tagig? 1167 02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:01,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: DPWH also, Your Honor. 1168 02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:02,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, sila din eh. 1169 02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:03,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Kaya po. 1170 02:28:03,000 --> 02:28:05,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, so you're, no. I want to get information from you now. 1171 02:28:05,000 --> 02:28:06,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that I can confirm. 1172 02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:08,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that I can confront them on Friday. 1173 02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:12,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, you're telling me now sa LLRN. 1174 02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:13,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sila po. 1175 02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:16,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nagko-coordinate sila. Pero sa tagig projects hindi sila nagko-coordinate. 1176 02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:17,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, nagko-coordinate din po sila. 1177 02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:20,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, eh bakit mo sinisist and desist yung isa? Nagko-coordinate na pala eh. 1178 02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:24,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, that's part of the cease and desist order. 1179 02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:25,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, I'm trying to see, Sir. 1180 02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:26,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1181 02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:35,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you're doing selective justice here. You have two projects. One is more than ten times bigger. One is ten times smaller. Same proponent. 1182 02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:41,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: One is even more useful than the other. May gumagamit na ba nung highway ngayon? 1183 02:28:41,000 --> 02:28:42,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Nung LLRN, Sir? 1184 02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:43,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oo. 1185 02:28:43,000 --> 02:28:44,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Wala pa po. 1186 02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:45,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oo. So, wala pang public use yun? 1187 02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:46,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. 1188 02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:51,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, with your permission, Mr. Chairman. This is a one-minute video. Can you show the one-minute video? 1189 02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:03,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Yes? 1190 02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:09,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, Sir. 1191 02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:23,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, Mr. Literal. That is the linear park na ginagawa ngayon. That is public use. Hindi private yan. 1192 02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:35,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag Christmas, 30,000 people a night dun sa 2 hectare na yan. Pwera pa dun. Okay. Hindi ba yan ay public use? 1193 02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:37,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi. 1194 02:29:37,000 --> 02:29:41,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Yung tinap niyo, shophouses. 1195 02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:42,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano pa? 1196 02:29:42,000 --> 02:30:00,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Shophouses. Singapore. Lahat ng Pilipino sinasabi, sanang may ganito tayo sa Pilipinas. Ginagawa ngayon. Yung katabi, I'm not at liberty to tell you who designed it. He's one of the best designers in the country na environmentalist na ginagamit ng national government. 1197 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:07,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang katabi na susunod na gagawin ay yung parang fund to make sure na walang erosion para sa environment. 1198 02:30:07,820 --> 02:30:09,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you know that yun ang isang STINAP niya? 1199 02:30:12,140 --> 02:30:13,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you know that? 1200 02:30:13,400 --> 02:30:13,740 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, sir. 1201 02:30:15,080 --> 02:30:19,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Have you ever written the city of Taguig to ask about the project? 1202 02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:23,980 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we have written the city of Taguig last October 2025. 1203 02:30:23,980 --> 02:30:30,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, that's not my question. My question is, have you ever written the city of Taguig to ask them about the projects? 1204 02:30:31,580 --> 02:30:32,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: About the lots. 1205 02:30:32,900 --> 02:30:43,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Ang sinasabi mo, nagsalita ka sa bilyonaryo, ang sabi niyo po, sir, may show cost order kayo sa city. 1206 02:30:44,160 --> 02:30:44,540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1207 02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:48,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Can you show me sa letter, saan nakalagay dito show cost? 1208 02:30:49,080 --> 02:30:53,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Binasa ko yung letter pa ulit-ulit. Ang nakalagay dito, ma'am, pakibigay yung mga tito. 1209 02:30:53,980 --> 02:31:01,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nakalagay dito, ma'am, ano yung project? Wala pong nakalagay dito show cost. Wala po. 1210 02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:07,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nakalagay dito, itong mga lupa na ito may titolo, pakita titolo sa PRA. 1211 02:31:07,860 --> 02:31:13,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nakapirma po dito, sir, kayo po. Kaya kayo po tinatanong kasi taga-DNR po kayo. 1212 02:31:13,800 --> 02:31:15,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, balikan ko yun, sir, ha? 1213 02:31:15,260 --> 02:31:15,560 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1214 02:31:15,660 --> 02:31:20,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, kung magtatanong tayo ng titolo, saan po tayo magtatanong? 1215 02:31:21,360 --> 02:31:23,960 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Ang mga titolo po ay hinahawakan. 1216 02:31:23,980 --> 02:31:26,920 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hinahawakan po ng Land Management Bureau. 1217 02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:32,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, alam nyo ba, sir, na inibitahan ng staff ko si chairman sa opisina ko nung sinulat nyo ito? 1218 02:31:33,380 --> 02:31:33,820 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Opo. 1219 02:31:34,180 --> 02:31:35,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo kung anong sinabi namin? 1220 02:31:36,220 --> 02:31:37,220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi ko po alam, sir. 1221 02:31:37,240 --> 02:31:40,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi namin, ayaw namin magmukakay yung incompetent sa PRA. 1222 02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:44,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, sino ang susulat sa mayor para humingi ng titolo? 1223 02:31:44,940 --> 02:31:47,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi naman po registrar of deeds ang asawa ko, eh. 1224 02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:49,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang mayor po, hindi naman na ano, eh. 1225 02:31:50,320 --> 02:31:52,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ito po, project ng DPWH. 1226 02:31:52,060 --> 02:32:00,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lahat ng lupa po na nandyan ay pagmamay-ari ng LLDA under a Republic Act. 1227 02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:08,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nung pagdaan ni chairman, if you remember, chairman, sa plenary wala po kayo. 1228 02:32:09,560 --> 02:32:10,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hinanap ko po kayo. 1229 02:32:11,660 --> 02:32:18,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dahil matagal na kaming magkaibigan nung pamilya ni chairman, pati nung tatay niya ay kaibigan na kaibigan ng tatay ko. 1230 02:32:18,540 --> 02:32:21,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang kapatid niya ay kabatch ko, di ba? 1231 02:32:22,060 --> 02:32:23,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang mga pinsan niya, kaibigan ko. 1232 02:32:24,580 --> 02:32:27,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagdaan sa office ko, tinanong lang, sir, ano problema? 1233 02:32:28,140 --> 02:32:33,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At tinanong ko ng staff ko, sir, ba't kayo nagtatanong ng titolo sa mayor at may problema ba dito? 1234 02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:35,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya sabi niya, hindi, mag-coordinate na lang. 1235 02:32:36,780 --> 02:32:42,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At sinabi ng staff ko, sir, ang magko-coordinate, DPWH, kasi hindi naman po project ng tagig yan, eh. 1236 02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:44,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Project ng DPWH. 1237 02:32:44,960 --> 02:32:49,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya ang tinanong pa nga ni chairman, kailangan ko ba maghintay dahil birthday nung anak niya? 1238 02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:51,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At tinawagan ako ng staff ko, sabi ko, hindi, hindi. 1239 02:32:52,060 --> 02:32:59,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya ako lang sila gusto makausap para linawin sa budget, pero kung namamadali at kung mag-uusap-usap naman lahat ng opisina natin, bakit hindi? 1240 02:33:00,900 --> 02:33:02,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama, chairman? More or less? 1241 02:33:02,820 --> 02:33:03,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less lang, di ba? 1242 02:33:04,320 --> 02:33:07,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, so meron po ba akong pananakot sa PRA? 1243 02:33:08,300 --> 02:33:10,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: With the indulgence of the minority leader. 1244 02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:12,820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I just have two quick questions. 1245 02:33:12,940 --> 02:33:13,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, go ahead. 1246 02:33:13,300 --> 02:33:13,860 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Very quick lang. 1247 02:33:14,900 --> 02:33:17,180 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I would like to address this to the PRA. 1248 02:33:17,180 --> 02:33:22,040 Senator Erwin Tulfo: When is the approval of PRA needed for reclamation project? 1249 02:33:22,060 --> 02:33:24,600 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Can any one of you answer that? 1250 02:33:25,000 --> 02:33:25,600 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Attorney literal. 1251 02:33:26,060 --> 02:33:33,560 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kailan ika nga ang kailangan ng approval ng PRA para sa isang reclamation project? 1252 02:33:33,760 --> 02:33:33,960 Senator Erwin Tulfo: When? 1253 02:33:34,680 --> 02:33:43,140 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, under our present, they need approval in all types of reclamations for whatever purpose, Mr. 1254 02:33:43,500 --> 02:33:43,940 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Okay. 1255 02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:46,820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, actually, lahat kailangan. 1256 02:33:46,820 --> 02:33:50,460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Hindi kailangan na yung approval ng DA, hindi kailangan. 1257 02:33:50,620 --> 02:33:51,820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kailangan lahat. 1258 02:33:52,060 --> 02:33:52,760 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Pag reclamation. 1259 02:33:53,020 --> 02:33:53,360 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1260 02:33:53,480 --> 02:33:53,740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Alright. 1261 02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:55,320 Senator Erwin Tulfo: One last quick question. 1262 02:33:56,320 --> 02:34:04,680 Senator Erwin Tulfo: What does Taguig need para ikang malift yung ikang cease and desist order? 1263 02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:05,900 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, wala. 1264 02:34:06,280 --> 02:34:09,920 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, may CDO po kami sa DPWH. 1265 02:34:10,620 --> 02:34:14,200 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sa Taguig City po, yun lang pong letter na yun, Mr. Chair. 1266 02:34:14,760 --> 02:34:15,380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: And your honor. 1267 02:34:15,380 --> 02:34:16,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 1268 02:34:17,000 --> 02:34:18,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasensya na po kayo. 1269 02:34:18,280 --> 02:34:20,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not emotional at you. 1270 02:34:22,060 --> 02:34:27,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang tagigin nyo, more than 500 years na. 1271 02:34:28,280 --> 02:34:36,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Before 2003, even nung impeachment ni President Erap, kumulan ng October hanggang January, baha kami. 1272 02:34:37,640 --> 02:34:39,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala kaming mga main road. 1273 02:34:40,460 --> 02:34:46,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Buti ang Makati, may Buendia, may Makati Avenue, may Pasay. 1274 02:34:47,140 --> 02:34:47,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 1275 02:34:47,920 --> 02:34:49,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nagawa lang yung Cayetano Boulevard. 1276 02:34:49,560 --> 02:34:50,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos itong General Santos. 1277 02:34:50,940 --> 02:34:54,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Doon sa tinatanong ko sa inyo, kung pamilyar kayo doon sa isa. 1278 02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:59,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, pag pinag-usapan ang syudad namin, you can investigate. 1279 02:35:00,820 --> 02:35:01,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Everyone is open. 1280 02:35:02,260 --> 02:35:05,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Actually, Mr. Chairman, I'll take the opportunity, kahit sa colleagues natin. 1281 02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:07,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'd like to be magnanimous. 1282 02:35:07,760 --> 02:35:09,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I thank them for bringing up this issue. 1283 02:35:10,220 --> 02:35:15,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang issue ko ay sa DPWH at LLDA at saka sa inyo, tatlo kayong gobyerno. 1284 02:35:15,500 --> 02:35:16,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ba't hindi kayo mag-usap? 1285 02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:20,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, attorney, nakausap mo na ba si Secretary Vince Dizon? 1286 02:35:21,700 --> 02:35:22,120 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes po. 1287 02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:23,460 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, sir, hindi. 1288 02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:24,420 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yung USEC po. 1289 02:35:24,660 --> 02:35:25,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinong USEC po? 1290 02:35:26,440 --> 02:35:28,820 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, for the LLRN, it's USEC sa Dain. 1291 02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:30,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: For the Taguig Project. 1292 02:35:30,540 --> 02:35:36,540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: For the Taguig Project, it's the USEC for the District Engineer, sir. 1293 02:35:36,680 --> 02:35:37,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi pa kayo nagkaayos? 1294 02:35:37,940 --> 02:35:38,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi pa nasubmit lahat? 1295 02:35:38,880 --> 02:35:40,220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, nasubmit na po sa amin. 1296 02:35:40,500 --> 02:35:43,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh, bakit? Meron pang cease and desist order. 1297 02:35:43,520 --> 02:35:46,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: By the way, Mr. Chairman, walang pondo yun. 1298 02:35:46,420 --> 02:35:50,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya kahit hindi nyo sinis and desist, may isa lang na tinatapos na project doon. 1299 02:35:50,940 --> 02:35:57,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At yung nasa dyaryo na nag-aayos, bumagyo kasi, nagpaalam sila sa DP na ayusin para hindi bumaksak. 1300 02:35:58,880 --> 02:36:02,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi tinanong ko rin eh, sa DP, ano nangyayari sa inyo? 1301 02:36:03,400 --> 02:36:08,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya yung sinabi ni Secretary Dizon na I'm ordering cease and desist, inorderan niya, sarili niyang tao eh. 1302 02:36:09,280 --> 02:36:10,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kayo ang nag-order sa kanya. 1303 02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:12,080 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1304 02:36:12,180 --> 02:36:12,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 1305 02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:13,980 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, sa amin, sir, sa DP daw. 1306 02:36:13,980 --> 02:36:14,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Agree. 1307 02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:19,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kalukuhan yung pag-order niya sa sarili niyang tao kasi siya ang inorderan nyo. 1308 02:36:19,760 --> 02:36:20,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, number two. 1309 02:36:20,700 --> 02:36:24,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, wala naman siyang isi-cease and desist doon sa haba na pinapakita sa media. 1310 02:36:25,280 --> 02:36:30,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi hanggang ngayon, yung 2026 budget, hindi nila binibid at hindi nila nilalabas. 1311 02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:36,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, wala rin siyang umumpisahan kasi wala rin kontratista na natutuloy doon sa ibang project riyon. 1312 02:36:36,140 --> 02:36:40,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Having said that, sir, what about sa City of Muntinlupa? 1313 02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:42,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you write them also? 1314 02:36:42,440 --> 02:36:43,240 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, yes. 1315 02:36:43,380 --> 02:36:44,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When did you write them, sir? 1316 02:36:44,540 --> 02:36:49,540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, the report was part of the... 1317 02:36:50,700 --> 02:36:52,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less lang, sir. 1318 02:36:52,280 --> 02:36:52,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less lang. 1319 02:36:53,220 --> 02:36:53,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong year yun? 1320 02:36:54,600 --> 02:36:57,960 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: September 2 ng 2025. 1321 02:36:58,820 --> 02:37:00,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How about the part... 1322 02:37:00,400 --> 02:37:01,240 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, 2026, sir. 1323 02:37:01,600 --> 02:37:02,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2026. 1324 02:37:02,320 --> 02:37:03,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, 2026. 1325 02:37:03,700 --> 02:37:05,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, in anong year? 1326 02:37:06,660 --> 02:37:11,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, in 2015, 2010, 2020, hindi nyo sila sinulatan? 1327 02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:14,700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sorry, sir. Wala pa ako po. 1328 02:37:14,700 --> 02:37:20,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo ba check-in muna bago nyo sulatan ng isang syudad? 1329 02:37:20,240 --> 02:37:20,540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir... 1330 02:37:20,540 --> 02:37:23,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you have any institutional memory? 1331 02:37:23,260 --> 02:37:26,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron ba ditong sa legal nyo na napakatagal na nandyan sa PRA? 1332 02:37:27,860 --> 02:37:31,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba ang PRA, ang batas nyo, 1977? 1333 02:37:32,960 --> 02:37:39,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, before 2025, sumusulat ba kayo sa anywhere in Laguna Lake? 1334 02:37:40,360 --> 02:37:42,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will go to my point, Mr. Chairman. 1335 02:37:42,940 --> 02:37:43,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To your memory. 1336 02:37:48,040 --> 02:37:48,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hmm. 1337 02:37:50,540 --> 02:37:52,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron ba, sirs, ma'am? 1338 02:37:53,460 --> 02:37:54,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Institutional memory. 1339 02:37:55,680 --> 02:37:57,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, we can go back to that, ha? 1340 02:37:58,260 --> 02:37:59,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasig rehabilitation. 1341 02:37:59,820 --> 02:38:00,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinulatan nyo to stop? 1342 02:38:02,040 --> 02:38:02,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To get a permit? 1343 02:38:04,620 --> 02:38:07,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tingnan nga natin yung picture ng Pasig Rehabilitation. 1344 02:38:11,340 --> 02:38:13,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasig River Rehabilitation Project. 1345 02:38:16,700 --> 02:38:19,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, yung part na yan na hanging over the water. 1346 02:38:20,180 --> 02:38:20,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 1347 02:38:20,380 --> 02:38:20,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 1348 02:38:20,420 --> 02:38:20,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 1349 02:38:20,520 --> 02:38:22,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Under your definition, reclamation yan? 1350 02:38:23,160 --> 02:38:24,940 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, kapag naka-stilts, hindi po. 1351 02:38:25,480 --> 02:38:25,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O. 1352 02:38:26,380 --> 02:38:28,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: San sa regulation yung nakalagay? 1353 02:38:29,280 --> 02:38:33,100 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Kasi wala, sir, permanent dumping, ano, lahok filling up. 1354 02:38:33,220 --> 02:38:33,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh, yung stilts? 1355 02:38:33,980 --> 02:38:38,380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi po siya, hindi po siya, ano, doon sa definition ng filling up po. 1356 02:38:38,700 --> 02:38:41,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, so, anything na stilts, hindi? 1357 02:38:41,280 --> 02:38:41,680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi po. 1358 02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:42,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 1359 02:38:42,620 --> 02:38:46,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh, yung part na, ano, in-extend from the side ng river. 1360 02:38:47,360 --> 02:38:48,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung one meter lang yun. 1361 02:38:48,660 --> 02:38:49,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Assuming, assuming one meter. 1362 02:38:49,880 --> 02:38:50,360 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir. 1363 02:38:50,520 --> 02:38:56,960 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Um, ang kailangan po namin muna, your honor, is yung, kung, yung survey. 1364 02:38:57,280 --> 02:38:57,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga. 1365 02:38:57,700 --> 02:38:58,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because sometimes. 1366 02:38:58,420 --> 02:38:59,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kina ba kumuha ng permit sa inyo? 1367 02:39:00,200 --> 02:39:00,780 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Ano po? 1368 02:39:00,920 --> 02:39:02,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kumuha ba ang Pasig Rehabilitation? 1369 02:39:03,040 --> 02:39:03,600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Ah, hindi po. 1370 02:39:03,640 --> 02:39:03,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi. 1371 02:39:04,040 --> 02:39:04,660 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi rin po. 1372 02:39:04,840 --> 02:39:05,380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi rin po. 1373 02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:07,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, by the way, Mr. Chairman, ha, baka magkamali, ha. 1374 02:39:08,320 --> 02:39:10,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I support the LLRN. 1375 02:39:10,160 --> 02:39:14,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I support the Pasig, the, the Malacanang is doing a very good job in that. 1376 02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:16,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is what I want to point out. 1377 02:39:17,460 --> 02:39:18,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagka tagig lakeshore, 1378 02:39:18,980 --> 02:39:20,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinisilip nyo lahat. 1379 02:39:22,120 --> 02:39:24,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero pag Pasig River, hindi. 1380 02:39:25,340 --> 02:39:28,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag ibang parts ng Laguna Lake, hindi. 1381 02:39:29,440 --> 02:39:31,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, balik tayo sa Laguna Lake. 1382 02:39:32,760 --> 02:39:34,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sino ang may jurisdiction sa Laguna Lake? 1383 02:39:35,520 --> 02:39:39,380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, actually, sir, we have overlapping jurisdiction with LLDA. 1384 02:39:39,500 --> 02:39:39,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige po. 1385 02:39:40,160 --> 02:39:41,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kayo, sir, lawyer, di ba? 1386 02:39:41,640 --> 02:39:42,040 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes po. 1387 02:39:42,100 --> 02:39:42,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 1388 02:39:42,820 --> 02:39:47,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When you have overlapping jurisdiction, you look at its source. 1389 02:39:47,500 --> 02:39:47,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama, sir? 1390 02:39:47,880 --> 02:39:48,380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1391 02:39:48,980 --> 02:39:51,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, your source is your law and the law ng LLDA? 1392 02:39:52,040 --> 02:39:52,400 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1393 02:39:52,820 --> 02:39:53,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 1394 02:39:53,540 --> 02:40:02,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And has LLDA in the past ever signified that they have exclusive jurisdiction over the Laguna Lake? 1395 02:40:04,100 --> 02:40:04,840 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, they have, sir. 1396 02:40:04,900 --> 02:40:05,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They have, di ba? 1397 02:40:05,720 --> 02:40:07,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And has PRA respected that? 1398 02:40:09,280 --> 02:40:11,820 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, we secured opinions from… 1399 02:40:11,820 --> 02:40:11,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no. 1400 02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:14,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sagutin mo muna tanong ko, then we'll go to that. 1401 02:40:14,280 --> 02:40:14,640 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, sir. 1402 02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:18,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, it is only in 2025 that you first… 1403 02:40:18,980 --> 02:40:24,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When you first started to write everyone to try to assert jurisdiction, tama po ba? 1404 02:40:25,100 --> 02:40:25,540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi po. 1405 02:40:25,980 --> 02:40:26,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kailan po? 1406 02:40:26,880 --> 02:40:29,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Before 2025, kailan kayo sumulat? 1407 02:40:29,180 --> 02:40:32,480 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, sir, ano yung OGCC? 1408 02:40:35,480 --> 02:40:43,480 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, as early as 1995, we already, because of the overlapping jurisdiction, we already secured an OGCC opinion. 1409 02:40:43,820 --> 02:40:45,600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Because we're both clients of the OGCC. 1410 02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:45,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 1411 02:40:46,100 --> 02:40:47,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What about the DOJ? 1412 02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:51,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Between an OGCC and DOJ opinion, what will prevail? 1413 02:40:55,220 --> 02:40:56,100 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, DOJ. 1414 02:40:56,540 --> 02:40:59,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, what does the DO… May DOJ opinion na ba? 1415 02:40:59,700 --> 02:41:00,440 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1416 02:41:00,800 --> 02:41:02,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano sabi ng DOJ? 1417 02:41:02,440 --> 02:41:10,460 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, kailangan, sir, i-harmonize. There are no conflicting provision. Kailangan lang, sir, harmonization ng tulos. 1418 02:41:10,520 --> 02:41:14,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Which one yun? Anong resolution ang sinasabi mo sa DOJ? 1419 02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:15,720 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir? 1420 02:41:15,720 --> 02:41:24,020 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, sir, sa DOJ opinion pala, such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, yun nga. 1421 02:41:24,140 --> 02:41:39,260 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, sa DOJ opinion, first, opinion number 106, series of 1995, no substantial conflict exists between the provisions of Section 4I of the LLDA Act and Section 4A of the PEA Charter. 1422 02:41:39,560 --> 02:41:45,700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, the rule that the special law shall remain as an exception. 1423 02:41:45,880 --> 02:41:50,540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: To the general law applies exproprio vigore. 1424 02:41:51,760 --> 02:41:55,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Explain to your colleagues kasi yung iba sa kanila yung mga engineer. 1425 02:41:56,620 --> 02:42:05,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, that means, tama ba ako? That since special law ang LLDA, LLDA ang may jurisdiction sa Laguna Lake pagdating ng reclamation, hindi kayo? 1426 02:42:06,720 --> 02:42:07,540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, sir. 1427 02:42:07,900 --> 02:42:09,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun ang ibig sabi niya, ayan o. 1428 02:42:09,720 --> 02:42:14,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In the instant case, no substantial conflict exists between provisions of 4-1. 1429 02:42:15,080 --> 02:42:15,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, the rule that the special law shall remain as an exception. 1430 02:42:15,700 --> 02:42:24,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, that being the case, the two provisions are in pari materia, the rule above stated, the special law shall remain as an exception to the general law. 1431 02:42:25,340 --> 02:42:27,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The general law is the PRA law. 1432 02:42:27,680 --> 02:42:30,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The special law is the LLDA law. 1433 02:42:30,700 --> 02:42:32,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The LLDA law says they can reclaim. 1434 02:42:33,340 --> 02:42:42,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They passed a resolution of their own in 1995 saying that they have exclusive jurisdiction in reclamation in LLDA. 1435 02:42:44,000 --> 02:42:45,680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, can I explain? 1436 02:42:45,700 --> 02:42:46,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Go ahead, yes. 1437 02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:54,360 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, the exclusive jurisdiction over sa general and special is over Laguna Lake. 1438 02:42:54,840 --> 02:42:55,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. 1439 02:42:55,340 --> 02:42:55,700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1440 02:42:56,080 --> 02:42:57,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And reclamation in Laguna Lake. 1441 02:42:57,920 --> 02:43:00,860 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: But on the reclamation, sir, nagbaliktad, sir. 1442 02:43:01,420 --> 02:43:02,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasaan nakalagay yun? 1443 02:43:03,820 --> 02:43:06,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasaan nakalagay dito sa October 12, 1995? 1444 02:43:06,940 --> 02:43:07,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, fine. 1445 02:43:13,020 --> 02:43:15,680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, doon sa DOJ opinion. 1446 02:43:15,700 --> 02:43:21,860 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Nang 12 October, sir, yun yung sinabi na wala na special. 1447 02:43:22,040 --> 02:43:22,600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1448 02:43:22,880 --> 02:43:23,200 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1449 02:43:23,280 --> 02:43:24,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's a special law. 1450 02:43:24,260 --> 02:43:26,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And the special law sabi, they have the power to reclaim. 1451 02:43:27,260 --> 02:43:27,620 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1452 02:43:27,640 --> 02:43:28,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And they passed a board resolution. 1453 02:43:29,360 --> 02:43:29,700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1454 02:43:29,740 --> 02:43:32,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Said that they have exclusive right to reclaim. 1455 02:43:32,580 --> 02:43:32,880 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1456 02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:33,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh. 1457 02:43:33,720 --> 02:43:35,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And you never questioned that. 1458 02:43:36,160 --> 02:43:39,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Reclaim ng reclaim ang gobyerno through the LLDA. 1459 02:43:40,340 --> 02:43:40,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh. 1460 02:43:42,360 --> 02:43:43,260 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, can I read the... 1461 02:43:43,260 --> 02:43:43,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, go ahead, please. 1462 02:43:44,520 --> 02:43:45,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pareho naman tayong hapang. 1463 02:43:45,300 --> 02:43:45,560 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1464 02:43:45,560 --> 02:43:45,680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1465 02:43:45,700 --> 02:43:45,880 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1466 02:43:46,300 --> 02:43:49,600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, doon sa last paragraph, sir, nung DOJ opinion. 1467 02:43:49,600 --> 02:43:50,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, yun ang binasa ko. 1468 02:43:50,500 --> 02:43:50,760 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1469 02:43:51,320 --> 02:43:56,100 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: The rule above stated, special law shall remain as an exception. 1470 02:43:57,020 --> 02:44:00,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ibig sabihin, the general rule is, basta't reclamation, PRA. 1471 02:44:00,900 --> 02:44:01,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What is the exception? 1472 02:44:02,800 --> 02:44:04,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The special law, Laguna Lake. 1473 02:44:04,620 --> 02:44:05,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1474 02:44:05,240 --> 02:44:05,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh. 1475 02:44:06,160 --> 02:44:09,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tinawagan ko rin ang PRA nung panahon ni PRRD. 1476 02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:11,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun din ang sinabi. 1477 02:44:11,820 --> 02:44:15,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na hindi kayo nakikialam sa Laguna Lake because nga, they have a special law. 1478 02:44:15,360 --> 02:44:19,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And pareho kayong kumukuha ng NEDA approval, di ba? 1479 02:44:21,100 --> 02:44:21,520 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, sir. 1480 02:44:22,220 --> 02:44:23,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ngayon, may delegated kayo. 1481 02:44:23,740 --> 02:44:23,900 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1482 02:44:24,320 --> 02:44:25,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero may iba-iba kayo, di ba? 1483 02:44:25,740 --> 02:44:26,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You were under... 1484 02:44:27,220 --> 02:44:30,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you follow the history, you were under DPWH. 1485 02:44:31,060 --> 02:44:31,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Before. 1486 02:44:31,640 --> 02:44:33,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos, binalik kayo doon. 1487 02:44:33,640 --> 02:44:34,000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1488 02:44:34,060 --> 02:44:35,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-DNR and OP ngayon. 1489 02:44:35,280 --> 02:44:38,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, you have to have the president's approval. 1490 02:44:38,600 --> 02:44:39,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, NEDA approval. 1491 02:44:39,900 --> 02:44:41,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, now you can approve for the president. 1492 02:44:41,640 --> 02:44:41,980 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1493 02:44:42,060 --> 02:44:43,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, kasi general law kayo. 1494 02:44:43,380 --> 02:44:45,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can do that anywhere in the Philippines. 1495 02:44:45,460 --> 02:44:48,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Except where there is a special law. 1496 02:44:49,040 --> 02:44:49,400 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1497 02:44:50,020 --> 02:44:54,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And assuming, assuming, assuming you want to challenge that right now. 1498 02:44:55,040 --> 02:44:56,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Assuming, Mr. Chairman. 1499 02:44:56,680 --> 02:44:59,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Assuming for the sake of order, whatever. 1500 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:16,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You think that you can do a better job. That's your call. Pero ano, apektohan yung public service ng mga parks, madi-delay yung pag-construct. So can you again show the picture of the Laguna Lake Highway? 1501 02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:46,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you very much. That's what I want to highlight, Mr. Chairman, Chairman Lopez. Walang problema kung every year nag-aaway kayo ng LLDA, eh siyempre inutos ng DPWH, kumuha na lang kayo ng permit sa ano. Pero kung 20 years na, 15 years na nagko-construct sa side namin at may problema ang PRA... 1502 02:45:46,240 --> 02:45:53,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA, kahit kami ang maiipit sa gitna. Tapos ang DPWH na mas malaki ang project, hindi maiipit. 1503 02:45:53,860 --> 02:46:05,320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi naman po namin iniipit ang mga project po. We were just asked for their compliances according to our rules. 1504 02:46:05,320 --> 02:46:15,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That is if every single year ginagawa nyo. Sinasabi ko nga sa inyo, 20 years na may project yan, hindi naman kayo sumusulat doon. 1505 02:46:15,320 --> 02:46:25,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos pagsulat nyo ongoing yung project, hindi nyo ako tinanong. Dalawa senador na taga-tagig dyan, hindi nyo tinanong yung mayor, hindi nyo tinanong yung dalawang congressman. 1506 02:46:26,020 --> 02:46:37,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos ang DPWH takot sumagot sa inyo. So hindi ba naipit? So ngayon, kung sa City of Manila, may project dyan na pinapakinabangan ng napakaraming tao, hindi private yan, public. 1507 02:46:37,940 --> 02:46:44,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because may dalawang ahensya na hindi magkasundo kung sino. Biglang matigil, hindi ba naipit yun? 1508 02:46:45,320 --> 02:46:49,700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: We will call their attention po to regularize. 1509 02:46:49,700 --> 02:47:07,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. But sinis and desist eh. Wala namang additional reclamation. Kung pumunta lang kayo doon at inimbitahan namin lahat na pumunta doon at nakita nyo, pinapalitadahan lang yung isang project, hindi na kayo gumawa ng gulo at nag-issue ng cease and desist. Hindi ba? 1510 02:47:08,520 --> 02:47:15,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung nagpatawag kayo ng meeting ng DPWH at LLDA, kung inimbitahan nyo yung congressman doon sa lugar na yon, 1511 02:47:15,320 --> 02:47:21,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung inimbitahan nyo yung local government, kung inimbitahan nyo yung mga barangay involved, nangyari pa ba itong lahat na to? 1512 02:47:24,700 --> 02:47:36,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung kapaligtarin ko, kung ganyan ko kayo ituring, hindi na dito tayo mag-usap, kung sa media ko nilabas itong lahat, every week, every ngan, magkakaintindihan ba tayo, sir? 1513 02:47:37,360 --> 02:47:44,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung project nyo, yung PIEC, kung hindi ko pakinggan ngayon at banatang ko na lang every week, 1514 02:47:45,320 --> 02:47:52,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos kawawa ang Pilipinas pag na-delay kasi maganda naman pala. Will you appreciate that, Mr. Chairman? 1515 02:47:54,060 --> 02:48:06,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala kaming problema kung may anomalya dyan, kung may titles. Sir, are you aware, sir, taga DNR, are you aware na napakaraming fake titles dyan? 1516 02:48:07,080 --> 02:48:08,980 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Totoo po yun, Mr. Your Honor. 1517 02:48:09,500 --> 02:48:14,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So what does myself, what does Mayor Lani, what does Taguig have to do? 1518 02:48:15,320 --> 02:48:16,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung may fake titles dyan. 1519 02:48:19,280 --> 02:48:20,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi ni-imbestigahan nyo. 1520 02:48:21,020 --> 02:48:24,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di-imbestigahan nyo with LRA, wala kaming problema dun, sir. 1521 02:48:27,720 --> 02:48:28,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala kaming problema dun. 1522 02:48:29,860 --> 02:48:32,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O sabi nyo may nireclaim illegally, mapupunta sa gobyerno. 1523 02:48:33,320 --> 02:48:35,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lahat tunong makikita nyo dyan sa gobyerno eh. 1524 02:48:35,840 --> 02:48:37,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So ano ang kukunin nyo para sa gobyerno? 1525 02:48:39,580 --> 02:48:42,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, sa interview nyo, paulit-ulit kayo, kukunin namin yan. 1526 02:48:43,360 --> 02:48:45,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong kukunin nyo po? Eh sa gobyerno naman po. 1527 02:48:45,320 --> 02:48:45,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong kukunin nyo po yan? 1528 02:48:47,120 --> 02:48:51,660 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, actually we're not stopping the construction. 1529 02:48:53,120 --> 02:48:59,340 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: I just want to clarify, Your Honor, what we have questioned with the DPWH 1530 02:48:59,340 --> 02:49:09,860 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: is the filling up of the area which is enclosed by the, with the slope protection and the C6. 1531 02:49:10,340 --> 02:49:11,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And you didn't explain it? 1532 02:49:13,160 --> 02:49:14,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, eto ah. 1533 02:49:15,320 --> 02:49:17,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ay Secretary Dizon ang nagpapaliwanag. 1534 02:49:17,380 --> 02:49:18,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo po bakit, sir? 1535 02:49:19,180 --> 02:49:22,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi nung panahon ni President Pinoy, chief of staff ko siya. 1536 02:49:23,160 --> 02:49:24,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So familiar siya dyan. 1537 02:49:25,300 --> 02:49:33,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung panahon ni PRD, presidential advisor on flagship program siya. 1538 02:49:33,780 --> 02:49:37,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At parati niyang kasama ang DOTR at DPWH. 1539 02:49:37,480 --> 02:49:40,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At nandyan siya nung napag-usapan yung project. 1540 02:49:40,760 --> 02:49:41,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya alam niya. 1541 02:49:41,940 --> 02:49:44,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eto, sir, na kulay blue at kulay pula. 1542 02:49:44,660 --> 02:49:45,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yan ang re-alignance. 1543 02:49:45,320 --> 02:49:51,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yan ang re-alignance ngayon dahil kailangan ilayo ng 1 kilometer from the lakeshore. 1544 02:49:51,960 --> 02:49:56,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because kung hindi, sir, yung 1,300 hectares namin aano rin na. 1545 02:49:57,800 --> 02:50:03,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At kung hindi gagawan ng lake ng park, sir, ano nangyayari pagka tapos tubig na? 1546 02:50:03,840 --> 02:50:04,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In your experience? 1547 02:50:05,280 --> 02:50:05,720 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Erosion. 1548 02:50:06,280 --> 02:50:09,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Aside from erosion, binabahayan, di ba, ng tao? 1549 02:50:09,240 --> 02:50:09,560 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1550 02:50:09,960 --> 02:50:12,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Aside from binabahayan, tinatapo na ng basura, di ba, sir? 1551 02:50:12,800 --> 02:50:13,200 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1552 02:50:13,200 --> 02:50:14,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero pag may park, sir? 1553 02:50:15,320 --> 02:50:16,220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1554 02:50:16,220 --> 02:50:17,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Completed na? 1555 02:50:17,880 --> 02:50:18,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Completed lahat, di ba, sir? 1556 02:50:19,000 --> 02:50:21,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May CR, walang nagda-dump sa tubig. 1557 02:50:21,620 --> 02:50:22,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yan yung purpose niyon, sir. 1558 02:50:22,820 --> 02:50:24,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang tawag diyan, linear park. 1559 02:50:25,220 --> 02:50:30,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I don't take it against anyone who wants to investigate, who asks, may project. 1560 02:50:30,540 --> 02:50:34,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang hinihingi ko lang, Mr. Chairman, I'll, I'll, ano, dahil I'm taking up too much time. 1561 02:50:35,820 --> 02:50:37,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi pa pwede mag-usap yung gobyerno. 1562 02:50:38,460 --> 02:50:39,220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we will, your honor. 1563 02:50:39,220 --> 02:50:42,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sa Friday, nandito si Secretary Vince Dizon. 1564 02:50:42,600 --> 02:50:45,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Can someone of authority sa inyo attend? 1565 02:50:45,320 --> 02:50:47,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Para kayo mag-usap? 1566 02:50:47,900 --> 02:50:54,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In front of all of us, para hindi kayo, di ba, he said this, he said this. 1567 02:50:54,740 --> 02:50:55,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya kayo mag-usap. 1568 02:50:56,420 --> 02:50:57,600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your honor, if I may? 1569 02:50:57,600 --> 02:50:58,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, go ahead. 1570 02:50:58,800 --> 02:51:06,180 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, tama po kayo kung, kung finilap nyo, hindi po matatamba ka ng basura. 1571 02:51:06,860 --> 02:51:09,480 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Going back lang po doon sa 2018 incident, 1572 02:51:10,060 --> 02:51:14,480 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: actually, ang una po namin na, na, na, stop. 1573 02:51:15,320 --> 02:51:19,680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Is a filling up doon sa portion nung dulo po, na may basura po. 1574 02:51:20,260 --> 02:51:20,660 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1575 02:51:21,200 --> 02:51:30,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know where I remember you from eh, but your name is very familiar or you just have one of those names that are nice and easy to pronounce and everything. 1576 02:51:30,700 --> 02:51:33,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, this goes to everyone. 1577 02:51:33,860 --> 02:51:35,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ba reputation is important? 1578 02:51:36,940 --> 02:51:37,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 1579 02:51:37,940 --> 02:51:43,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya kami ni Senator Tulfo nagbabanatan din minsan, pero, you know, we try to then, we talk. 1580 02:51:43,600 --> 02:51:44,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Why? 1581 02:51:44,480 --> 02:51:45,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: His reputation. 1582 02:51:45,320 --> 02:51:46,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is important to him. 1583 02:51:46,300 --> 02:51:47,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: My reputation is important to him. 1584 02:51:48,560 --> 02:51:50,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Who will speak for the city of Taguig? 1585 02:51:52,220 --> 02:51:59,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, pag sinabing may anomalya dyan, may titulo dyan, and this is dyan, et cetera, hindi po tao yung city eh. 1586 02:52:00,180 --> 02:52:06,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya ko tinanong, chairman, di ba, kung Manila yun, whether official ka o hindi, pag sinabing Manila ganito, Manila ganyan. 1587 02:52:07,580 --> 02:52:11,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, yun ang problema, sir, kasi ang dami na sinabi about our city. 1588 02:52:11,160 --> 02:52:15,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, like, halimbawa, sir, sa titling, no, I mean, maybe si engineer. 1589 02:52:15,320 --> 02:52:21,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Does the city have any, any, ano, participation in land titling? 1590 02:52:24,460 --> 02:52:33,520 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Sa proseso po, your honor, ay kailangan po namin ng concurrence po ng, ano, halimbawa yung city po, katulad po ng nangyayari. 1591 02:52:33,520 --> 02:52:41,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, but I'm saying, sir, di ba, if I'm a private, magpapatitulo ako, di ba, I either go to LRA or to court, di ba? 1592 02:52:41,760 --> 02:52:42,020 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Opo. 1593 02:52:42,020 --> 02:52:42,060 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Opo. 1594 02:52:42,760 --> 02:52:44,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala namang participation yung city, di ba? 1595 02:52:45,320 --> 02:52:47,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang city ba nagpapatitulo? 1596 02:52:47,640 --> 02:52:53,200 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Your honor, bahagi po ng proseso ng pagtitulo po ay yung kailangan po na may SOP yan. 1597 02:52:53,780 --> 02:52:55,220 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: At kung ito ay pag-aay po. 1598 02:52:55,400 --> 02:52:58,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, sabihin niyo yung SOP kasi sa media may ibang ibig sabihin ng SOP. 1599 02:53:00,060 --> 02:53:00,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pakisabi, sir. 1600 02:53:00,740 --> 02:53:01,440 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Survey, survey po. 1601 02:53:01,780 --> 02:53:02,380 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: May survey. 1602 02:53:02,620 --> 02:53:03,180 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: May survey. 1603 02:53:03,740 --> 02:53:07,880 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: At in-administer po ito ng lisensyado pong judetic engineer. 1604 02:53:07,960 --> 02:53:08,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, not the city. 1605 02:53:08,700 --> 02:53:09,620 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: So, gagawa po ng plano yan. 1606 02:53:09,640 --> 02:53:10,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, not the city. 1607 02:53:10,480 --> 02:53:11,600 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: At pag natapos po dito. 1608 02:53:11,960 --> 02:53:12,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. 1609 02:53:12,220 --> 02:53:14,360 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Of course po, may pipirman po ng city. 1610 02:53:14,360 --> 02:53:15,620 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Okay, kasi sa kanila po yung lupa. 1611 02:53:16,420 --> 02:53:16,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sorry po. 1612 02:53:17,300 --> 02:53:18,500 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: May pipirman po yung plano. 1613 02:53:18,500 --> 02:53:18,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no. 1614 02:53:19,100 --> 02:53:21,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're talking about land that city owns. 1615 02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:22,340 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Yes po. 1616 02:53:22,500 --> 02:53:24,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, I'm talking about land titling in general. 1617 02:53:25,500 --> 02:53:26,140 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Ganon din po. 1618 02:53:26,600 --> 02:53:31,760 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Yung plano po ng lupa, kailangan po pirmahan nila, mag-concur po sila sa ginawa po ng judetic engineer. 1619 02:53:31,760 --> 02:53:32,660 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: So, may concurrence. 1620 02:53:32,920 --> 02:53:38,360 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: At yun po ang isasabit natin doon po sa DINR po, sa Land Management Bureau. 1621 02:53:38,620 --> 02:53:41,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sino ang pipirma sa city para sa land? 1622 02:53:41,360 --> 02:53:42,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have not. 1623 02:53:43,240 --> 02:53:44,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi pa ako nagpapatitulo. 1624 02:53:44,360 --> 02:53:45,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nagpapatitulo ng lupa. 1625 02:53:46,860 --> 02:53:57,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa media kasi, it's being communicated na para bang ang city ang gumagawa ng titlo. 1626 02:53:57,960 --> 02:54:06,900 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Your Honor, as per advice po na kasama ko, na dati ko rin kasamahan sa DINR, ay yung assessor po ang normally pumipirma po para sa titlo po ng lupa. 1627 02:54:06,900 --> 02:54:12,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, because the assessor, if you do not have a title yet, but you're paying the taxes, 1628 02:54:12,620 --> 02:54:15,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then you will get the tax deck. 1629 02:54:16,320 --> 02:54:16,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 1630 02:54:16,840 --> 02:54:24,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And if you go, for example, sa Fort Bonifacio, nung binenta yan, there were several having tax decks for the same lupa. 1631 02:54:25,800 --> 02:54:27,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ganon din, may mga fake titles nun. 1632 02:54:27,860 --> 02:54:27,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 1633 02:54:29,420 --> 02:54:37,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, what I'm saying is that, if you're saying they're part of the process in the sense that you have to get the tax deck and you have to sign, 1634 02:54:38,980 --> 02:54:39,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba? 1635 02:54:39,100 --> 02:54:42,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, regardless, itabi mo yan. 1636 02:54:42,620 --> 02:54:45,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, what does the city have to do kung may mga titlo dun? 1637 02:54:47,600 --> 02:54:49,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Familiar ba kayo ng land titling sa Laguna Lake? 1638 02:54:50,480 --> 02:54:52,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is the second to my final, ano. 1639 02:54:52,440 --> 02:54:58,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, are you familiar with the land titlings upon the Laguna Lake area? 1640 02:54:59,500 --> 02:55:00,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di po, sir. 1641 02:55:00,300 --> 02:55:03,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. I will familiarize you guys, para lang malinaw, pati sa media. 1642 02:55:04,880 --> 02:55:07,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 60s, 70s, napasay yung Laguna Lake, diba? 1643 02:55:08,280 --> 02:55:11,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Martial law, pwede kang PD, presidential decree. 1644 02:55:12,620 --> 02:55:14,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang PD is the effect of law. 1645 02:55:15,820 --> 02:55:17,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? Because of Proclamation No. 3. 1646 02:55:18,260 --> 02:55:18,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 1647 02:55:18,920 --> 02:55:25,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi sa LLDA law, pag mababa sa 12.5 meters, automatically, it is owned by LLDA. 1648 02:55:25,840 --> 02:55:27,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's under their jurisdiction. 1649 02:55:27,880 --> 02:55:29,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At pag may lupa dun, sa kanila yun. 1650 02:55:30,260 --> 02:55:30,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasa law yun. 1651 02:55:31,940 --> 02:55:36,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, even under PD 3, even under martial law, may constitution tayo. 1652 02:55:37,280 --> 02:55:41,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And the constitution says, you cannot take land without payment. 1653 02:55:41,000 --> 02:55:42,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, any... 1654 02:55:42,620 --> 02:55:48,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anyone who already had title nun, ay hindi pwedeng kunin ng LLDA unless babayaran nila. 1655 02:55:48,980 --> 02:55:50,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? Kasi may title ka na eh. 1656 02:55:50,920 --> 02:55:52,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, isang tabi na natin yun. 1657 02:55:52,340 --> 02:55:55,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung mga may title before the LLDA law. 1658 02:55:55,800 --> 02:55:56,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 1659 02:55:56,500 --> 02:55:58,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: After that, nasubaybayan ko yan over the years. 1660 02:55:59,500 --> 02:56:01,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1992, I was 21 years old. 1661 02:56:01,560 --> 02:56:02,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Conceal na ako sa tagi. 1662 02:56:03,240 --> 02:56:09,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nangyayari dyan usually, pag may nag-file sa RTC for title, 1663 02:56:09,760 --> 02:56:11,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kwe-question yun ng LLDA dahil sa batas nila. 1664 02:56:12,620 --> 02:56:20,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, pag na-prove nung may-ari na sa kanya yun at na-grant ng RTC, 1665 02:56:20,920 --> 02:56:22,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung araw, inaabot pa ng Supreme Court. 1666 02:56:23,400 --> 02:56:26,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, I don't know when, if it was 80s or 90s, 1667 02:56:27,160 --> 02:56:28,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naging desisyon ng LLDA, 1668 02:56:29,040 --> 02:56:31,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag nanalo sa RTC, huwag na natin habulin hanggang Supreme Court. 1669 02:56:32,540 --> 02:56:34,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, talo na tayo sa RTC. 1670 02:56:34,800 --> 02:56:38,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, meron talagang mga titulo dyan. 1671 02:56:38,500 --> 02:56:40,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Again, I ask the question, 1672 02:56:40,740 --> 02:56:42,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: unless yung city ang nagpapasili... 1673 02:56:42,620 --> 02:56:46,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What does the city have to do with all the titles there? 1674 02:56:46,480 --> 02:56:47,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya, nasabi ko sa media, 1675 02:56:49,020 --> 02:56:53,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung babawiin nyo lahat ng titulo ng lahat sa Laguna Lake, 1676 02:56:53,260 --> 02:56:55,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pabor sa amin yun kasi gobyerno ngayon yun. 1677 02:56:55,780 --> 02:56:57,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, magkakagulo tayo sa lahat ng... 1678 02:56:58,560 --> 02:57:00,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Torrens title. 1679 02:57:00,860 --> 02:57:03,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, yung iba dyan, 20, 30, 40 years, 1680 02:57:03,480 --> 02:57:04,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: puwera yung fake. 1681 02:57:05,200 --> 02:57:06,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung fake at any time, 1682 02:57:10,620 --> 02:57:11,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano ba ang... 1683 02:57:11,620 --> 02:57:11,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang... 1684 02:57:11,880 --> 02:57:13,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagka-fraudulent yung title? 1685 02:57:14,700 --> 02:57:15,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dalawa, di ba? 1686 02:57:15,540 --> 02:57:17,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagka yung fake, as in it's hindi totoo, 1687 02:57:18,800 --> 02:57:19,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: any time yun. 1688 02:57:19,740 --> 02:57:20,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala yun. 1689 02:57:20,400 --> 02:57:20,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala yun. 1690 02:57:21,280 --> 02:57:22,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's null and void. 1691 02:57:22,780 --> 02:57:23,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 1692 02:57:23,540 --> 02:57:25,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, if you have a real title, 1693 02:57:25,300 --> 02:57:27,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but through fraudulent means, 1694 02:57:27,720 --> 02:57:28,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakuha mo, 1695 02:57:29,140 --> 02:57:29,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is it four years? 1696 02:57:30,140 --> 02:57:31,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Four years from discovery? 1697 02:57:31,760 --> 02:57:33,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa sa inyo is a broker, eh. 1698 02:57:33,800 --> 02:57:34,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nakita ko sa... 1699 02:57:34,980 --> 02:57:35,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa ano nyo. 1700 02:57:35,740 --> 02:57:37,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sino yung broker sa... 1701 02:57:37,260 --> 02:57:38,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa sa board nyo... 1702 02:57:38,420 --> 02:57:38,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi, oh. 1703 02:57:38,840 --> 02:57:41,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. El Defonso is the director of the Bureau of Land, 1704 02:57:41,980 --> 02:57:43,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the longest of time. 1705 02:57:43,120 --> 02:57:44,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, maybe you can answer. 1706 02:57:44,300 --> 02:57:45,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sir, pagka... 1707 02:57:45,360 --> 02:57:45,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano, 1708 02:57:46,100 --> 02:57:46,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tunay yung title, 1709 02:57:47,120 --> 02:57:48,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero fraudulent yung pagkuha, 1710 02:57:48,540 --> 02:57:49,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba you can question it pa? 1711 02:57:50,200 --> 02:57:50,780 PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso: Yeah, yes. 1712 02:57:51,660 --> 02:57:52,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa. 1713 02:57:52,240 --> 02:57:53,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: For how long, sir? 1714 02:57:53,520 --> 02:57:54,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Four years pa? 1715 02:57:54,080 --> 02:57:54,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or eight years, di ba? 1716 02:57:55,080 --> 02:57:56,200 PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso: Walang prescription. 1717 02:57:57,140 --> 02:57:58,260 PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso: As far as I know. 1718 02:57:58,460 --> 02:58:00,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I'll go through it, sir. 1719 02:58:00,960 --> 02:58:02,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag everything is legit, 1720 02:58:03,640 --> 02:58:05,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na-inform lahat ng katabi mo, 1721 02:58:05,120 --> 02:58:05,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nasunod mo lahat, 1722 02:58:05,880 --> 02:58:07,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may right ka talaga doon, 1723 02:58:07,380 --> 02:58:08,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagkatitulo ka, 1724 02:58:08,840 --> 02:58:10,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: everyone has one year 1725 02:58:10,380 --> 02:58:11,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: from the issue, 1726 02:58:11,880 --> 02:58:12,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one student title, 1727 02:58:12,720 --> 02:58:13,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that is, 1728 02:58:13,100 --> 02:58:14,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that is, 1729 02:58:15,300 --> 02:58:16,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what do you call this, 1730 02:58:16,500 --> 02:58:17,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: publicized. 1731 02:58:17,480 --> 02:58:18,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You have one year. 1732 02:58:18,720 --> 02:58:19,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung hindi, 1733 02:58:19,560 --> 02:58:21,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi mo na madi-dispute, 1734 02:58:21,280 --> 02:58:21,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba? 1735 02:58:21,920 --> 02:58:23,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The exception is, 1736 02:58:23,600 --> 02:58:26,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if you got it through fraudulent means, 1737 02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:27,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then from discovery, 1738 02:58:27,980 --> 02:58:28,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have a time period, 1739 02:58:28,860 --> 02:58:29,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not sure, 1740 02:58:29,320 --> 02:58:29,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: four years. 1741 02:58:30,240 --> 02:58:31,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There's a third kind, 1742 02:58:31,320 --> 02:58:32,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fake title. 1743 02:58:32,860 --> 02:58:34,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Walang prescription yun, 1744 02:58:34,100 --> 02:58:35,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi null and void yun. 1745 02:58:35,520 --> 02:58:36,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Fake yun. 1746 02:58:36,340 --> 02:58:37,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi totoo. 1747 02:58:37,700 --> 02:58:37,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? 1748 02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:39,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oo. 1749 02:58:39,440 --> 02:58:41,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, yun ang sinasabi ko, 1750 02:58:41,340 --> 02:58:41,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Chairman. 1751 02:58:41,880 --> 02:58:42,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasensya na. 1752 02:58:43,160 --> 02:58:45,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If fake titles are going around 1753 02:58:45,480 --> 02:58:46,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and sasabihin yung 1754 02:58:46,720 --> 02:58:48,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there's a hundred hectares 1755 02:58:48,320 --> 02:58:49,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: underwater na gano'n 1756 02:58:49,340 --> 02:58:50,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and that's a fake title, 1757 02:58:51,560 --> 02:58:52,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kawawa naman mga taga LRA. 1758 02:58:53,440 --> 02:58:54,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kawawa naman yung assessor. 1759 02:58:55,140 --> 02:58:55,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kawawa naman yung 1760 02:58:55,740 --> 02:58:56,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: legitimate owners. 1761 02:58:57,540 --> 02:58:58,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-iisip sila lahat. 1762 02:58:58,580 --> 02:58:59,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nung sinabing 1763 02:58:59,280 --> 02:59:01,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 17 hectares, 1764 02:59:01,120 --> 02:59:02,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 180 ba yun, 1765 02:59:02,300 --> 02:59:02,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 70? 1766 02:59:03,520 --> 02:59:04,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hinahanap nung lahat eh. 1767 02:59:05,780 --> 02:59:06,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hinahanap nung lahat. 1768 02:59:06,780 --> 02:59:06,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pati, 1769 02:59:07,080 --> 02:59:08,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron yung titulo dyan 1770 02:59:08,560 --> 02:59:09,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na 18. 1771 02:59:10,640 --> 02:59:11,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi mga sumusulat formal, 1772 02:59:11,880 --> 02:59:13,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi kasabihin, 1773 02:59:13,200 --> 02:59:13,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakikialam. 1774 02:59:14,460 --> 02:59:15,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam mo kanino ako 1775 02:59:15,400 --> 02:59:16,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagtatanong sa brokers? 1776 02:59:17,240 --> 02:59:18,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi sila nagbebente. 1777 02:59:18,840 --> 02:59:20,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May bentahan ba dyan 1778 02:59:20,100 --> 02:59:20,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na last 5 years 1779 02:59:20,860 --> 02:59:22,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: o na last 10 years 1780 02:59:22,200 --> 02:59:22,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung 18? 1781 02:59:23,000 --> 02:59:23,760 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Mr. Senator, 1782 02:59:24,040 --> 02:59:25,880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi po namin sinasabing 1783 02:59:26,500 --> 02:59:28,120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: fake title. 1784 02:59:28,240 --> 02:59:29,420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Wala akong kami sinasabing gano'n. 1785 02:59:29,500 --> 02:59:30,680 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang sinasabi lang namin, 1786 02:59:30,940 --> 02:59:32,080 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: unauthorized po. 1787 02:59:32,360 --> 02:59:32,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. 1788 02:59:33,080 --> 02:59:34,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang problema, sir, 1789 02:59:34,680 --> 02:59:36,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa mga interviews, 1790 02:59:36,360 --> 02:59:37,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinasabi, 1791 02:59:37,820 --> 02:59:38,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagahalo na kasi. 1792 02:59:39,320 --> 02:59:39,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos, 1793 02:59:39,900 --> 02:59:40,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sasabihin, 1794 02:59:40,300 --> 02:59:41,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakita na ng PRA. 1795 02:59:41,880 --> 02:59:43,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 30 hectares. 1796 02:59:44,080 --> 02:59:45,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nakita na ng PRA, 1797 02:59:45,420 --> 02:59:46,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 170 hectares. 1798 02:59:47,120 --> 02:59:48,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nakita na ng PRA, 1799 02:59:48,880 --> 02:59:49,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may titulo, 1800 02:59:49,760 --> 02:59:50,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: underwater. 1801 02:59:51,580 --> 02:59:52,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And hindi natin alam 1802 02:59:52,480 --> 02:59:53,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung tunay yung titulo na yan. 1803 02:59:54,420 --> 02:59:55,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In the meantime, 1804 02:59:55,260 --> 02:59:56,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bugbog na bugbog 1805 02:59:56,080 --> 02:59:57,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung reputation ng city namin. 1806 02:59:58,120 --> 02:59:59,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Again, I ask you the question. 1807 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:01,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: who will talk for our city? 1808 03:00:03,320 --> 03:00:03,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 1809 03:00:03,940 --> 03:00:06,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sana na-realize nyo lang yung problema ngayon 1810 03:00:06,020 --> 03:00:07,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and sana we're all just, 1811 03:00:07,860 --> 03:00:09,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how do I put it, circumspect. 1812 03:00:09,860 --> 03:00:11,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Now, kung totoo, sir, crucify. 1813 03:00:12,740 --> 03:00:13,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung totoo, kung sino 1814 03:00:13,920 --> 03:00:16,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: man ito manon, kahit na ako yun, 1815 03:00:16,160 --> 03:00:17,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit na yung mayor, yung congressman, 1816 03:00:18,280 --> 03:00:19,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit na sa first 1817 03:00:19,920 --> 03:00:21,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: family, kung may gumagawa ng anomalya 1818 03:00:21,920 --> 03:00:23,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dyan, go ahead, sir. Pero habang 1819 03:00:23,900 --> 03:00:25,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iniimbestiga, baka pwedeng 1820 03:00:25,940 --> 03:00:28,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may konti tayong circumspection, 1821 03:00:28,400 --> 03:00:29,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba? And then, secondly, 1822 03:00:30,000 --> 03:00:31,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sana nga, sir, between, 1823 03:00:32,280 --> 03:00:33,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, although 1824 03:00:33,720 --> 03:00:35,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang LLDA now is under 1825 03:00:35,580 --> 03:00:38,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DNR, tama ba, 1826 03:00:38,140 --> 03:00:39,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir, na once upon a time, it was under 1827 03:00:39,900 --> 03:00:40,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: OP din? 1828 03:00:42,240 --> 03:00:43,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang LLDA? 1829 03:00:45,560 --> 03:00:47,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam ko, nag-ano din yun, eh. Umiikot din yun, eh. 1830 03:00:48,360 --> 03:00:49,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But ang point ko is, once 1831 03:00:49,780 --> 03:00:51,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: upon a time, you were under OP. 1832 03:00:52,260 --> 03:00:53,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang LLDA, 1833 03:00:53,920 --> 03:00:55,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think it was, I'm not sure, ah, 1834 03:00:55,860 --> 03:00:57,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero ngayon, under DNR. Tapos, ang 1835 03:00:57,640 --> 03:00:59,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chairman ng board is the 1836 03:00:59,700 --> 03:01:01,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DNR secretary. So, pareho 1837 03:01:01,880 --> 03:01:04,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naman kayong gobyerno, lahat naman kami magkukumplay, eh. 1838 03:01:05,300 --> 03:01:05,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, 1839 03:01:06,040 --> 03:01:07,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: i-synchronize nyo yung 1840 03:01:07,780 --> 03:01:09,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: rules nyo. Hindi pwedeng sinasabi 1841 03:01:09,720 --> 03:01:11,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng LLDA sa amin, 1842 03:01:12,300 --> 03:01:13,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kami, sabi nyo, tapos 1843 03:01:13,860 --> 03:01:15,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may ipit. Last question. 1844 03:01:16,860 --> 03:01:17,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Assuming, 1845 03:01:18,640 --> 03:01:19,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sino man may jurisdiction, 1846 03:01:20,600 --> 03:01:21,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: under both rules 1847 03:01:21,700 --> 03:01:23,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the LLDA and 1848 03:01:23,900 --> 03:01:25,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DNR, 1849 03:01:25,680 --> 03:01:27,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino ang dapat kumuha ng permit? 1850 03:01:27,100 --> 03:01:28,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 1851 03:01:29,700 --> 03:01:33,920 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sa reclamation permit, sir? 1852 03:01:34,440 --> 03:01:35,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Reclamation and infrastructure 1853 03:01:35,960 --> 03:01:37,940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that came about because of 1854 03:01:37,940 --> 03:01:38,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the unauthorized 1855 03:01:38,920 --> 03:01:40,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamation. 1856 03:01:40,520 --> 03:01:41,900 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, for the reclamation, sir, 1857 03:01:41,940 --> 03:01:43,760 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: it's the proponents. 1858 03:01:43,760 --> 03:01:44,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. 1859 03:01:44,240 --> 03:01:46,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And in this case, in Taguig, 1860 03:01:46,120 --> 03:01:47,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we're talking about who? 1861 03:01:47,740 --> 03:01:48,290 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: DPWH. 1862 03:01:48,290 --> 03:01:49,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH. 1863 03:01:49,080 --> 03:01:49,600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. 1864 03:01:49,800 --> 03:01:51,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ang ugat ng problema natin, 1865 03:01:52,060 --> 03:01:53,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ang city, hindi 1866 03:01:53,860 --> 03:01:54,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ako, 1867 03:01:55,880 --> 03:01:57,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ko sino man, kung hindi, ang 1868 03:01:57,520 --> 03:01:58,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kakulangan ng DPWH. 1869 03:01:59,700 --> 03:02:01,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, nung tinatanong namin sila, sabi kasi 1870 03:02:01,700 --> 03:02:03,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nila, sir, 20 years na kasi kaming 1871 03:02:03,420 --> 03:02:04,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eto yung proseso. 1872 03:02:06,420 --> 03:02:07,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, syempre, umaangal din 1873 03:02:07,780 --> 03:02:09,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung LLDA. Pero, may hawak ako dito, eh. 1874 03:02:10,960 --> 03:02:11,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-issue din 1875 03:02:11,660 --> 03:02:13,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng LLDA ng MOA 1876 03:02:13,100 --> 03:02:15,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: between Taguig City, 1877 03:02:16,360 --> 03:02:17,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA, 1878 03:02:18,740 --> 03:02:20,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH, MMDA. 1879 03:02:21,260 --> 03:02:21,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron din 1880 03:02:21,640 --> 03:02:23,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: project ang Taguig City with LLDA 1881 03:02:23,580 --> 03:02:25,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Department of Agriculture or the Bureau of 1882 03:02:25,660 --> 03:02:27,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Fisheries on the water. 1883 03:02:27,820 --> 03:02:29,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, hindi siguro reclaimed yun. 1884 03:02:29,700 --> 03:02:31,920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, high-tech fish pen. 1885 03:02:32,060 --> 03:02:33,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? But, ang point ko, sir, 1886 03:02:33,920 --> 03:02:35,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ba't naman hindi susunod lahat 1887 03:02:35,440 --> 03:02:36,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung kayong magkaayos? 1888 03:02:38,200 --> 03:02:39,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, kung hindi, 1889 03:02:40,820 --> 03:02:41,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so, for example, 1890 03:02:41,860 --> 03:02:43,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi nyo sa budget hearing na to, 1891 03:02:43,480 --> 03:02:45,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: last na to, chairman, no? Sabi nyo sa budget 1892 03:02:45,720 --> 03:02:47,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hearing na to, hindi kami magkasundo. 1893 03:02:49,640 --> 03:02:51,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hindi muna kami gagawa ng project 1894 03:02:51,700 --> 03:02:52,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng isang taon. 1895 03:02:54,180 --> 03:02:55,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pababaya namin mapuno ng basura 1896 03:02:55,880 --> 03:02:57,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or ng informal squatters yung area. 1897 03:02:57,680 --> 03:02:59,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No? Sir, kung taga, 1898 03:02:59,700 --> 03:03:01,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa DNR kayo at sir, 1899 03:03:01,660 --> 03:03:03,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung medyo familiar ka, alam nyo ba yung 1900 03:03:03,620 --> 03:03:05,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'll close with this. Alam nyo yung 1901 03:03:05,460 --> 03:03:06,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lupang-ariyanda? 1902 03:03:07,860 --> 03:03:09,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Have you heard of that? 1903 03:03:10,220 --> 03:03:11,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lupang-ariyanda? 1904 03:03:12,580 --> 03:03:13,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ha? Sir, yeah. 1905 03:03:13,900 --> 03:03:15,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Go ahead, sir. So, that 1906 03:03:15,360 --> 03:03:17,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lupang-ariyanda is squatted 1907 03:03:17,720 --> 03:03:19,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: area. Maraming mga informal 1908 03:03:19,520 --> 03:03:20,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, chairman, ganito yun. 1909 03:03:21,940 --> 03:03:23,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bago pala ang congressman. 1910 03:03:24,180 --> 03:03:25,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May dispute kasi ang Rizal, 1911 03:03:26,420 --> 03:03:27,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taytay at Taguig. 1912 03:03:27,460 --> 03:03:29,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Paglampas ng Rizal, 1913 03:03:29,700 --> 03:03:31,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasig River. Sabi nila Rizal na yun. 1914 03:03:31,960 --> 03:03:34,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi ng Taguig, pareho naman tayong Rizal eh. 1915 03:03:34,460 --> 03:03:36,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Naging Metro Manila. So, meron din kami 1916 03:03:36,160 --> 03:03:38,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dyan. Ang ginawa, 1917 03:03:39,820 --> 03:03:40,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naglalagay ng 1918 03:03:40,360 --> 03:03:40,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: stilts. 1919 03:03:42,180 --> 03:03:44,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos ang basura, sinusunog. 1920 03:03:44,800 --> 03:03:46,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sasabihin filling material, 1921 03:03:46,160 --> 03:03:48,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nilalagay. So, naglakad ako 1922 03:03:48,420 --> 03:03:48,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon. 1923 03:03:50,480 --> 03:03:52,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Five minutes na ako naglalakad. 1924 03:03:52,640 --> 03:03:53,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi naman nagtatambak dito. 1925 03:03:53,940 --> 03:03:55,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi, sir, tingnan mo yung doon. 1926 03:03:55,940 --> 03:03:57,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagpunta ko doon, wala pang bahay. 1927 03:03:57,700 --> 03:03:58,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Stilts. 1928 03:03:59,700 --> 03:04:01,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, lampas tuhod. 1929 03:04:02,180 --> 03:04:03,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May tubig pa, basura. 1930 03:04:05,140 --> 03:04:05,820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tinatapon doon. 1931 03:04:06,200 --> 03:04:07,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi ko, oh, ang liit naman ito. 1932 03:04:08,720 --> 03:04:10,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, lahat ng nilakaran mo 1933 03:04:10,440 --> 03:04:12,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the last ten minutes, ganito yan. 1934 03:04:12,940 --> 03:04:13,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Natamba ka na. 1935 03:04:14,640 --> 03:04:14,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. 1936 03:04:15,580 --> 03:04:17,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The next time na nabalita yan, 1937 03:04:18,160 --> 03:04:20,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagbangka. Bumaha doon 1938 03:04:20,060 --> 03:04:21,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng grabe. Nagbangka doon si 1939 03:04:21,860 --> 03:04:22,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Biason. 1940 03:04:24,320 --> 03:04:25,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Iinanap ko eh, kung nasa YouTube pa. 1941 03:04:25,820 --> 03:04:28,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung ina ako nagkakamali, that was sometime 1942 03:04:28,120 --> 03:04:29,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2001. That was 1943 03:04:29,700 --> 03:04:31,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 25 years ago. 1944 03:04:31,760 --> 03:04:33,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not sure now if that's 1945 03:04:33,620 --> 03:04:35,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 50, 100, 150 hectares. 1946 03:04:35,740 --> 03:04:37,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, gentlemen, pag hindi 1947 03:04:37,600 --> 03:04:39,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: inayos yung lakeshore, 1948 03:04:40,320 --> 03:04:41,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganyan ang nangyayari. 1949 03:04:41,960 --> 03:04:43,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And not only in the Philippines. 1950 03:04:43,880 --> 03:04:45,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You go to Southeast Asian, any 1951 03:04:45,560 --> 03:04:47,840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: archipelago, kapag ka may 1952 03:04:47,840 --> 03:04:49,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahirapan, ang tubig 1953 03:04:49,520 --> 03:04:51,580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is one of the target areas 1954 03:04:51,580 --> 03:04:54,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na either 1955 03:04:54,040 --> 03:04:55,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakastilts or ngayon 1956 03:04:55,660 --> 03:04:57,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na may pinagtatambakan. 1957 03:04:57,480 --> 03:04:59,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, actually, ang nangyayari sa tagig 1958 03:04:59,360 --> 03:05:00,960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is to protect the lakeshore. 1959 03:05:01,900 --> 03:05:03,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung hindi, puno na rin ang tao yun 1960 03:05:03,380 --> 03:05:05,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: katulad nung nangyayari 1961 03:05:05,320 --> 03:05:06,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa areyenda. 1962 03:05:07,080 --> 03:05:09,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't say the barangay, but I can point to you 1963 03:05:09,480 --> 03:05:11,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a barangay na nangyayari pa rin hanggang 1964 03:05:11,400 --> 03:05:13,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ngayon yun. Whether it's in 1965 03:05:13,300 --> 03:05:14,520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig or Rizal or 1966 03:05:14,520 --> 03:05:16,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anywhere else. 1967 03:05:17,100 --> 03:05:19,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, thank you for this time, Mr. Chairman. 1968 03:05:19,640 --> 03:05:20,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I just wanted to say, 1969 03:05:21,140 --> 03:05:23,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we can get to the bottom of any problem 1970 03:05:23,100 --> 03:05:23,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when we talk. 1971 03:05:24,580 --> 03:05:25,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 1972 03:05:25,700 --> 03:05:28,000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, wala man lang 1973 03:05:28,000 --> 03:05:29,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nag-reach out sa inyo. Pag ako naman, 1974 03:05:29,360 --> 03:05:30,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mag-reach out, baka sabihin, 1975 03:05:31,140 --> 03:05:32,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinatakot ko kayo. 1976 03:05:33,500 --> 03:05:35,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Onyx, never naman kita tinakot. 1977 03:05:35,380 --> 03:05:36,760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Takot nga ako sa tatay mo. 1978 03:05:37,180 --> 03:05:37,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 1979 03:05:38,600 --> 03:05:41,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, anyway, I'm not gonna 1980 03:05:41,460 --> 03:05:42,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: blame anyone and 1981 03:05:42,780 --> 03:05:45,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I do know emotions were high here in the 1982 03:05:45,680 --> 03:05:47,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senate and it's time 1983 03:05:47,320 --> 03:05:49,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to move on and solve bigger problems 1984 03:05:49,200 --> 03:05:51,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of our country, including problems with our 1985 03:05:51,300 --> 03:05:53,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: economy. But sana nga, 1986 03:05:53,160 --> 03:05:54,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can send someone, Mr. Chairman. 1987 03:05:55,060 --> 03:05:57,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't tell you to do this or to do that. 1988 03:05:57,260 --> 03:05:58,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'll just tell you, do the right thing. 1989 03:05:59,360 --> 03:06:01,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero yun nga, sana, in the quickest 1990 03:06:01,480 --> 03:06:02,640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: possible time, 1991 03:06:03,200 --> 03:06:05,700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the 1992 03:06:05,700 --> 03:06:07,020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA and si 1993 03:06:07,020 --> 03:06:09,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary Vince Dizon. Kasi ang 1994 03:06:09,300 --> 03:06:11,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA, baliktad naman. 1995 03:06:12,040 --> 03:06:13,460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meeting ng meeting sa amin, 1996 03:06:13,720 --> 03:06:14,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meeting ng meeting 1997 03:06:14,540 --> 03:06:17,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa DPWH at saka 1998 03:06:17,300 --> 03:06:19,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa city, ngayon magbabudget 1999 03:06:19,480 --> 03:06:21,720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hearing, ayaw na nila makipag-usap. 2000 03:06:23,240 --> 03:06:24,280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko alam bakit. 2001 03:06:25,040 --> 03:06:25,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? 2002 03:06:25,240 --> 03:06:26,900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Go ahead, sir. 2003 03:06:27,240 --> 03:06:29,240 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, we... 2004 03:06:29,360 --> 03:06:31,240 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: We're happy to 2005 03:06:31,240 --> 03:06:33,260 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: inform the Chair and 2006 03:06:33,260 --> 03:06:35,400 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: your Honor that we'll be having 2007 03:06:35,400 --> 03:06:36,980 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: a coordination meeting with 2008 03:06:36,980 --> 03:06:39,520 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: both LLDA, DNR 2009 03:06:39,520 --> 03:06:41,040 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: and DPWH. 2010 03:06:41,500 --> 03:06:42,780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Open ba sa lahat yan? 2011 03:06:43,880 --> 03:06:45,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ba dapat meron din 2012 03:06:45,240 --> 03:06:46,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: taga-city? Let's invite 2013 03:06:46,480 --> 03:06:48,030 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: everybody. Sir, 2014 03:06:48,030 --> 03:06:49,400 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: yes sir. You're welcome, sir. 2015 03:06:49,560 --> 03:06:51,280 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: We will welcome the participation 2016 03:06:51,280 --> 03:06:53,220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: of the LGUs. Your staff po is 2017 03:06:53,220 --> 03:06:53,770 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: most welcome. 2018 03:06:53,770 --> 03:06:54,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If there's anyone 2019 03:06:54,880 --> 03:06:56,880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: objective, bring them. Kasi 2020 03:06:56,880 --> 03:06:59,120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kaso sa, diba? Ako, 2021 03:06:59,360 --> 03:07:01,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit wala staff ko, pero yung city naman 2022 03:07:01,160 --> 03:07:03,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: siguro, nung nangyari yung 2023 03:07:03,140 --> 03:07:05,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: flood control scam, yung 2024 03:07:05,260 --> 03:07:07,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: buong sinasabi ng 2025 03:07:07,100 --> 03:07:09,380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: national government, sana in-involve 2026 03:07:09,380 --> 03:07:10,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: natin yung lokal. 2027 03:07:11,180 --> 03:07:12,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ngayon, parang 2028 03:07:12,320 --> 03:07:15,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ayaw natin yung involve yung 2029 03:07:15,160 --> 03:07:17,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung lokal. 2030 03:07:17,640 --> 03:07:19,060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh, sila naman nakataalam 2031 03:07:19,060 --> 03:07:21,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon, 2032 03:07:21,380 --> 03:07:23,160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir. Diba? Okay. Kasi 2033 03:07:23,160 --> 03:07:25,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir, I think it's 2034 03:07:25,260 --> 03:07:27,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: about time because if you're 2035 03:07:27,240 --> 03:07:29,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: aware, before the pandemic, 2036 03:07:29,360 --> 03:07:31,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: muntik nang magkaroon 2037 03:07:31,480 --> 03:07:33,220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng reclamation project ng between 2038 03:07:33,220 --> 03:07:35,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 200 to 2,000 2039 03:07:35,320 --> 03:07:37,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hectares sa Muntinlupa 2040 03:07:37,300 --> 03:07:38,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Taguig side ng Laguna Lake. 2041 03:07:39,800 --> 03:07:41,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron pre-proposed dyan na 2042 03:07:41,540 --> 03:07:43,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: si, I think 2043 03:07:43,680 --> 03:07:45,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: si Architect Palafox, 2044 03:07:45,420 --> 03:07:47,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero Rizal side na 2045 03:07:47,400 --> 03:07:49,980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: airport. Binubuhay yun 2046 03:07:49,980 --> 03:07:51,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: before binag-usapan yung 2047 03:07:51,680 --> 03:07:53,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bulacan, I think it was 2048 03:07:53,200 --> 03:07:55,420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: packaged as possible, possibly 2049 03:07:55,420 --> 03:07:57,560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a Manipakyao airport 2050 03:07:57,560 --> 03:07:59,320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at the time. Pano ni 2051 03:07:59,360 --> 03:08:00,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Speaker Alvarez. 2052 03:08:01,360 --> 03:08:03,680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And then, etong 2021- 2053 03:08:03,680 --> 03:08:05,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2022-23, 2054 03:08:06,140 --> 03:08:07,400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may lumalapit 2055 03:08:07,400 --> 03:08:09,180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na gustong mag-present. So, 2056 03:08:09,280 --> 03:08:11,080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eventually, there's gonna be a proposal. 2057 03:08:12,300 --> 03:08:12,480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And, 2058 03:08:14,020 --> 03:08:15,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sino man mas magaling sa inyo 2059 03:08:15,360 --> 03:08:16,860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng LLDA in assessing 2060 03:08:16,860 --> 03:08:19,440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sustainability, public 2061 03:08:19,440 --> 03:08:21,620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: use, etc., okay sa amin yun. 2062 03:08:22,600 --> 03:08:23,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? So, Mr. 2063 03:08:23,380 --> 03:08:25,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Chairman, I'll leave it at that and thank you 2064 03:08:25,360 --> 03:08:27,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for this. And I hope 2065 03:08:27,260 --> 03:08:29,200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the ladies and gentlemen appreciate 2066 03:08:29,360 --> 03:08:30,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba, yung 2067 03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:32,740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano to, July pa, 2068 03:08:33,400 --> 03:08:35,140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: September na. Diba? 2069 03:08:35,220 --> 03:08:36,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kawawa naman yung mga taong 2070 03:08:36,660 --> 03:08:39,240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napabanggit, 2071 03:08:39,340 --> 03:08:41,300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naiipit, at kawawa naman 2072 03:08:41,300 --> 03:08:43,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung seating hindi nakakapagsalita para 2073 03:08:43,360 --> 03:08:45,540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa, siguro eto, last na 2074 03:08:45,540 --> 03:08:47,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: last na talaga. Nag-BBGC ba 2075 03:08:47,360 --> 03:08:47,600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo? 2076 03:08:49,620 --> 03:08:51,040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pumapasyal ba kayo sa BGC? 2077 03:08:51,360 --> 03:08:53,260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig, oh. Siguro naman nage-enjoy 2078 03:08:53,260 --> 03:08:54,660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo sa city namin. Kaya si 2079 03:08:54,660 --> 03:08:57,360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: siguro naman, konting malasakit 2080 03:08:57,360 --> 03:08:59,340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: din pabalik sa isang siyudad. 2081 03:08:59,360 --> 03:09:01,500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na nagmamalasakit 2082 03:09:01,500 --> 03:09:02,800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: din sa lahat. Thank you, Mr. 2083 03:09:02,940 --> 03:09:04,100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Chairman Lopez. 2084 03:09:05,540 --> 03:09:05,970 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Po. 2085 03:09:05,970 --> 03:09:07,040 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Thank you and 2086 03:09:07,040 --> 03:09:09,240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: sorry for any inconvenience 2087 03:09:09,240 --> 03:09:11,480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: in the miscommunication, if any. 2088 03:09:12,860 --> 03:09:13,660 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you. 2089 03:09:14,460 --> 03:09:15,300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, 2090 03:09:15,460 --> 03:09:16,960 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Minority Leader. Thank you. 2091 03:09:18,300 --> 03:09:19,400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Anyway, there 2092 03:09:19,400 --> 03:09:21,260 Senator Erwin Tulfo: being no other questions, 2093 03:09:21,640 --> 03:09:23,460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: the fiscal year 2027 2094 03:09:23,460 --> 03:09:25,380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: proposed budget of the 2095 03:09:25,380 --> 03:09:26,940 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Philippine Reclamation Authority 2096 03:09:26,940 --> 03:09:29,160 Senator Erwin Tulfo: is now or will be submitted. 2097 03:09:29,360 --> 03:09:30,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, plenary consideration. 2098 03:09:31,540 --> 03:09:33,420 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Subject, of course, to discussions 2099 03:09:33,420 --> 03:09:35,620 Senator Erwin Tulfo: and questions from my 2100 03:09:35,620 --> 03:09:36,840 Senator Erwin Tulfo: colleagues in the plenary. 2101 03:09:37,340 --> 03:09:39,020 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I hope you'll be prepared by then. 2102 03:09:39,800 --> 03:09:41,500 Senator Erwin Tulfo: And submission of 2103 03:09:41,500 --> 03:09:42,980 Senator Erwin Tulfo: requested documents. Thank you. 2104 03:09:43,240 --> 03:09:45,300 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Thank you, Senator Erwin. 2105 03:09:45,440 --> 03:09:46,440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Thank you so much. 2106 03:09:46,440 --> 03:09:47,600 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Yes, I would like to thank 2107 03:09:47,600 --> 03:09:49,520 Senator Erwin Tulfo: the officials and employees of the 2108 03:09:49,520 --> 03:09:51,260 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Philippine Reclamation Authority 2109 03:09:51,260 --> 03:09:53,300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: for their budget briefing to this committee. 2110 03:09:53,900 --> 03:09:55,580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: And I would like to thank Senator 2111 03:09:55,580 --> 03:09:57,460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Cayetano for 2112 03:09:57,460 --> 03:09:59,340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: attending this budget briefing. Thank you. 2113 03:09:59,360 --> 03:10:01,580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: This budget briefing is hereby suspended. 2114 03:10:01,840 --> 03:10:02,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Maraming salamat po.