WEBVTT asr-000143 01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:30.000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I apologize for the delay. I know we should have started at around three, but we had to go to the session hall because I had to sponsor several measures before the floor. asr-000144 01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:59.980 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So I do apologize and thank you for your patience and understanding. Well, let us now begin. Magandang hapon po sa ating lahat. The budget briefing for fiscal year 2007 proposed budgets of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas and the Philippine Reclamation Authority is hereby called to order. We will be joined by several of our colleagues later on. asr-000145 01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:23.900 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I would also like to thank and acknowledge the presence of CFO Secretary Dante Ang and PRA Chairman Alexander Lopez. At this juncture, may I ask the Committee Secretary to acknowledge our other resource persons in today's budget briefing? asr-000145-split-2 01:08:23.900 --> 01:08:31.120 Committee Secretary: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. The Committee on Finance, Subcommittee H, would like to acknowledge the presence of the following: asr-000146 01:08:31.120 --> 01:08:59.980 Committee Secretary: From the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, earlier acknowledged by the Chairman, we have Secretary Dante Francis Ang II. Good afternoon po. We also have Undersecretary Maria [unclear] Borja. From the Philippine Reclamation Authority, also earlier acknowledged by Chairman Senator Erwin Tulfo: asr-000147 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:29.980 Committee Secretary: Attorney Alexander Lopez, Engineer Cesar Siador Jr., Director Elio [unclear], Director Anthony Peter Crisologo, Attorney Jose Ferrer Jr., and Attorney Joselito Gonzalez. asr-000148 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:40.000 Committee Secretary: Attorney Joseph John [unclear]. From the Commission on Audit for the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, asr-000158 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:50.000 Committee Secretary: we have Mr. Fahad bin Abdul Malik Tumawis. asr-000168 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:51.000 Committee Secretary: From the Commission on Audit for the Philippine Reclamation Authority, we have Mr. Marlon Marcadia. Good afternoon, sir. asr-000177 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:08.200 Committee Secretary: From the Department of Budget and Management for Commission on Filipinas Overseas, we have Ms. Mary Rose Aguilar, good afternoon ma'am. asr-000178 01:10:09.200 --> 01:10:18.520 Committee Secretary: And also from the Department of Budget and Management for Philippine Reclamation Authority, we have Ms. Lulu Vizpo, good afternoon po. asr-000179 01:10:19.160 --> 01:10:21.060 Committee Secretary: I think that is all, Mr. Chair. asr-000180 01:10:21.060 --> 01:10:32.700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Committee Secretary. I would like to acknowledge the presence of our Minority Leader, Senator Alan Peter Cayetano. Thank you, sir, for joining us this afternoon. asr-000181 01:10:33.820 --> 01:10:47.760 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Anyway, for today, the Finance Subcommittee H will deliberate on the fiscal year 2027 proposed budgets of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas and the Philippine Reclamation Authority. asr-000182 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.660 Senator Erwin Tulfo: As we deliberate on the 2027 budget, asr-000183 01:10:51.060 --> 01:10:57.380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: let us remember that every peso appropriated is a peso entrusted to us by the people. asr-000184 01:10:58.040 --> 01:11:04.620 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kaya dapat malinaw po saan napupunta ang ating pondo, ano ang resulta, at sino ang tunay na makikinabang. asr-000185 01:11:05.320 --> 01:11:08.100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: For the CFO, our starting point is equally clear. asr-000186 01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:11.820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Hindi lamang remittance ang ambag ng ating mga kababayan sa abroad. asr-000187 01:11:12.380 --> 01:11:19.240 Senator Erwin Tulfo: They bring skills, investments, ideas, networks, and most importantly, a continuing connection to the Philippines. asr-000188 01:11:20.240 --> 01:11:20.820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: For the PRA, asr-000189 01:11:21.060 --> 01:11:26.520 Senator Erwin Tulfo: we will look closely at the balance between development and environmental stewardship. asr-000190 01:11:27.300 --> 01:11:32.220 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Reclamation and the development of public lands must be anchored on sound planning, asr-000191 01:11:33.500 --> 01:11:38.420 Senator Erwin Tulfo: economic value, climate resilience, and the long-term interests of Filipino people. asr-000192 01:11:39.180 --> 01:11:40.640 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Hindi po sapat na may proyekto. asr-000193 01:11:41.280 --> 01:11:45.040 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Dapat malinaw kung may tunay na pakinabang sa publiko. asr-000194 01:11:50.180 --> 01:11:51.040 Senator Erwin Tulfo: At the end of this deliberation, asr-000195 01:11:51.060 --> 01:11:52.720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: our standards should be clear: asr-000196 01:11:53.060 --> 01:11:58.500 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Translate into public value, measurable results, and meaningful services to the Filipino people. asr-000197 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:05.720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: This is how we uphold fiscal responsibility and more importantly, maintain the trust that our people place in government. asr-000198 01:12:06.500 --> 01:12:11.700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Let this hearing therefore be candid, constructive, and focused on the outcomes. asr-000199 01:12:12.300 --> 01:12:14.400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ang budget ay hindi lamang po numero sa papel. asr-000200 01:12:15.140 --> 01:12:19.380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ito ay salamin ng ating mga prioridad at pananagutan sa mamamayan. asr-000201 01:12:19.380 --> 01:12:20.540 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you. asr-000202 01:12:21.060 --> 01:12:21.780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Let's proceed. asr-000203 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:22.860 Senator Erwin Tulfo: But before we do that, asr-000204 01:12:23.400 --> 01:12:29.940 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I would like to ask our minority leader, Senator Cayetano, if he has any opening statement. asr-000205 01:12:30.440 --> 01:12:32.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. asr-000206 01:12:32.340 --> 01:12:33.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will follow your lead. asr-000207 01:12:34.260 --> 01:12:39.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You said to keep it clear, focused, professional. asr-000208 01:12:40.260 --> 01:12:46.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sa akin lang po yung biblical principle, kung anong ating itatanim, yan ang ating aanihin. asr-000209 01:12:46.060 --> 01:12:51.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And in that spirit, after the chairman, may I ask one or two questions? asr-000210 01:12:51.060 --> 01:12:55.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To the Honourable Secretary Dante, about Filipinos overseas. asr-000211 01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:58.460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Mayor. asr-000212 01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:04.120 Senator Erwin Tulfo: With that, let us proceed with our budget hearing. asr-000213 01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:12.920 Senator Erwin Tulfo: We will open the floor now for the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, if they have any or if they want to make any presentation. asr-000214 01:13:13.740 --> 01:13:14.880 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Secretary Ang, go ahead. asr-000215 01:13:16.980 --> 01:13:19.560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Honourable Members of the Committee. asr-000216 01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:20.980 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: With your permission. asr-000217 01:13:21.060 --> 01:13:26.880 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Sirs, I have a two-page opening statement and a five-minute video, if that would be okay. asr-000218 01:13:28.300 --> 01:13:28.700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Go ahead. asr-000219 01:13:28.940 --> 01:13:29.460 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Salamat po. asr-000220 01:13:30.020 --> 01:13:39.120 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Whenever stakeholders hear us, it is often followed by questions about our connection to our other migrant-serving counterparts and our scope of work. asr-000221 01:13:40.120 --> 01:13:47.340 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Put simply, the CFO's mandate is to foster diaspora engagement through programs and policies asr-000222 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:50.640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: that involve and empower our non-resident Filipinos. asr-000223 01:13:51.060 --> 01:13:54.680 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: To participate in national development. asr-000224 01:13:55.740 --> 01:14:09.140 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: NRF is our term for permanent migrants, expatriates, dual citizens, marriage migrants, as well as all their descendants and cultural exchange program participants in the U.S. and Europe. asr-000225 01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:20.300 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: They are the reason why the CFO exists under Batas Pambansa 79 to serve migrating Filipinos and lead in the Brain Gain initiatives. asr-000226 01:14:21.060 --> 01:14:27.860 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: The CFO ensures that NRFs are connected to the Philippines politically, economically, and culturally. asr-000227 01:14:28.480 --> 01:14:31.780 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: The Philippines enjoys a competitive advantage. asr-000228 01:14:32.700 --> 01:14:38.100 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: But Filipinos overseas need programs and policies that enable them to participate in development. asr-000229 01:14:38.980 --> 01:14:43.220 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: First, the CFO serves the largest segment of our migrants. asr-000230 01:14:43.220 --> 01:14:51.000 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: About 60% of the estimated 10.7 million Filipinos residing overseas fall under the CFO's asr-000231 01:14:51.060 --> 01:14:54.340 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: specific purview and require government services. asr-000232 01:14:54.980 --> 01:15:00.020 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: This is more than half of the population, and they are vital resources for the Philippines. asr-000233 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:08.240 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: The diaspora, despite migrating long-term, continues to identify with being Filipino asr-000234 01:15:08.240 --> 01:15:14.640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and expresses an earnest desire to be involved in the country. Second is its economic significance. asr-000235 01:15:15.440 --> 01:15:22.640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: just like ofws our nrfs bring in a significant amount of remittances but they are hardly asr-000236 01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:28.560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: recognized for this contribution. Our flagship diaspora program, Lingkod sa Kapwa Pilipino (LINKAPIL), asr-000237 01:15:30.320 --> 01:15:35.920 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: has facilitated more than 3.4 billion pesos in contributions over the decades. asr-000238 01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:41.840 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: in relation the cfo's constituents not only give back economically as the chairman said asr-000239 01:15:42.400 --> 01:15:45.600 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: but they also provide knowledge and skills transfer to communities asr-000240 01:15:46.320 --> 01:15:50.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we have done medical mission they have done medical missions capacity building workshops asr-000241 01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:52.560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and consultations with our partners asr-000242 01:15:53.280 --> 01:15:58.480 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: The LINKAPIL economic engagement program is one through which NRFs can help SMEs in asr-000243 01:15:58.480 --> 01:16:04.080 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: the philippines and support small-scale infrastructure third is harnessing political asr-000244 01:16:04.080 --> 01:16:10.320 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and social capital. Our NRFs serve as informal ambassadors of our country, asr-000245 01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:16.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: imbued with soft power some diaspora members are not only community leaders but they also asr-000246 01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:22.400 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: serve in key positions in governments overseas the cfo collaborates with these important asr-000247 01:16:22.400 --> 01:16:22.560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: figures asr-000248 01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:27.440 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and opens the way for business, social, and tourism ventures in the Philippines. asr-000249 01:16:28.320 --> 01:16:34.720 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: the creation of the cfo in 1980 signaled a clear recognition that international migration asr-000250 01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:40.080 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: extended beyond labor mobility and required focused attention on immigrant populations asr-000251 01:16:40.080 --> 01:16:46.640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and transnational engagement our filipino diaspora summit last june brought together asr-000252 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:52.400 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: nrfs from around the world and echoed the same sentiment it proved that the diaspora asr-000253 01:16:52.400 --> 01:16:57.920 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: is not seeking engagement the philippines in the abstract but rather with specific concrete asr-000254 01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:04.960 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: development opportunities provided by the cfo thus it are it is our intention to continue our mission asr-000255 01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:09.360 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and ensure that the contributions welfare and interests of our permanent and long-term asr-000256 01:17:09.360 --> 01:17:19.280 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: migrants are not neglected. To facilitate our plans, the CFO is proposing a budget of 195.2 million pesos. Forty-eight percent, asr-000257 01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:22.080 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: or 93.898 million pesos, asr-000258 01:17:22.400 --> 01:17:30.720 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: will be allocated to personnel services, while 52 percent, or 101.302 million pesos, asr-000259 01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:34.720 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: will be allocated for maintenance and other operating expenses, or MOOE. asr-000260 01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:38.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: in terms of distribution by major program activity or project asr-000261 01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:44.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: 73.26 million will be allocated to general administration and support or gas asr-000262 01:17:46.160 --> 01:17:52.320 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: the cfo assures that the budget shall be maximized to its fullest potential as evidenced by a previous asr-000263 01:17:52.400 --> 01:18:00.080 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: performance in 2025 we were able to obligate 91.36 percent of our of our budget with a asr-000264 01:18:00.080 --> 01:18:07.760 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: disbursement rate of 92.6 percent in the last seven years the cfo has maintained more than a 90 asr-000265 01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:15.600 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: disbursement rate. In 2027, the CFO will not only maintain its regular programs such as BaLinkBayan, asr-000266 01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:22.400 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: YouLeaD, Ugnayan, but also intensify campaigns for further diaspora engagement for national development. asr-000267 01:18:23.040 --> 01:18:26.560 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we plan to conduct outreach to overseas filipino organizations asr-000268 01:18:27.280 --> 01:18:33.120 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: create development focus modules for the youth intensify our anti-human trafficking efforts asr-000269 01:18:33.120 --> 01:18:36.640 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and bolster partnerships with other migration and development stakeholders asr-000270 01:18:37.440 --> 01:18:44.160 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: to help achieve our new goals we are also requesting an additional 88 million 764 000 asr-000271 01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:52.400 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: for the cfo mismo baling buy-in project continuing cost office productivity and our newly created for asr-000272 01:18:52.400 --> 01:18:58.240 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: filipino diaspora volunteer program supporting the cfo means strengthening our commitment to asr-000273 01:18:58.240 --> 01:19:04.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: every filipino whether they are at home or abroad so with your permission mr chairman i now show asr-000274 01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:08.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: a brief video to summarize all of these proposals asr-000275 01:19:32.190 --> 01:19:45.120 Presentation video: Around the world, millions of Filipinos have built lives, careers, and communities. With them is a vast reservoir of knowledge, expertise, networks, resources, and a continuing desire to contribute to the Philippines. asr-000276 01:19:45.120 --> 01:19:47.240 Presentation video: For many, the question is asr-000277 01:19:47.240 --> 01:19:48.240 Presentation video: not whether asr-000278 01:19:48.240 --> 01:19:49.200 Presentation video: they want to help, asr-000279 01:19:49.200 --> 01:19:50.200 Presentation video: but how, where, asr-000280 01:19:50.200 --> 01:19:51.280 Presentation video: and with whom asr-000281 01:19:51.280 --> 01:19:52.320 Presentation video: they can make a meaningful contribution. asr-000282 01:19:52.320 --> 01:19:55.860 Presentation video: This is where the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, or CFO, comes in. asr-000283 01:19:56.220 --> 01:20:03.500 Presentation video: CFO connects Filipinos overseas with credible programs, communities, government institutions, and partners asr-000284 01:20:03.500 --> 01:20:07.400 Presentation video: through which they can remain engaged and contribute to the country's development. asr-000285 01:20:07.400 --> 01:20:12.540 Presentation video: Around 6 million non-resident Filipinos or NRFs live across the world asr-000286 01:20:12.540 --> 01:20:19.120 Presentation video: as permanent residents, naturalized and dual citizens, spouses and partners of foreign nationals, asr-000287 01:20:19.120 --> 01:20:25.660 Presentation video: descendants of Filipino migrants, exchange visitors, and other migrants under the Commission's mandate. asr-000288 01:20:26.180 --> 01:20:31.120 Presentation video: Across countries, citizenships, and generations, one bond endures. asr-000289 01:20:31.460 --> 01:20:32.160 Presentation video: Dugong Pinoy asr-000290 01:20:32.160 --> 01:20:39.200 Presentation video: CFO strengthens the political, economic, and cultural ties of Filipinos overseas with the Philippines asr-000291 01:20:39.200 --> 01:20:43.700 Presentation video: and facilitates their meaningful participation in national development. asr-000292 01:20:43.700 --> 01:20:48.840 Presentation video: For Filipinos overseas who want to remain connected and contribute to the Philippines, asr-000293 01:20:49.120 --> 01:20:51.880 Presentation video: CFO provides concrete ways to take part. asr-000294 01:20:52.260 --> 01:20:57.420 Presentation video: LINKAPIL connects NRFs who want to give back with channels for supporting local development. asr-000295 01:20:57.780 --> 01:21:06.820 Presentation video: In 2025, the program facilitated 14.4 million pesos in donations from 2,835 overseas donors, asr-000296 01:21:07.380 --> 01:21:14.500 Presentation video: benefiting 17,698 Filipinos in 17 provinces and the National Capital Region. asr-000297 01:21:14.500 --> 01:21:18.300 Presentation video: Beyond immediate assistance, CFO encourages contributions asr-000298 01:21:18.300 --> 01:21:19.100 Presentation video: that address asr-000299 01:21:19.120 --> 01:21:21.120 Presentation video: longer-term development needs asr-000300 01:21:21.120 --> 01:21:23.380 Presentation video: and strengthen community resilience, asr-000301 01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:26.860 Presentation video: turning bayanihan across borders into concrete action. asr-000302 01:21:27.100 --> 01:21:27.880 Presentation video: BaLinkBayan asr-000303 01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:31.760 Presentation video: reconnects Filipinos overseas with their places of origin, asr-000304 01:21:32.140 --> 01:21:37.920 Presentation video: working with LGUs to link diaspora investments, expertise, community initiatives, asr-000305 01:21:38.300 --> 01:21:42.020 Presentation video: and other forms of participation with local development needs. asr-000306 01:21:42.460 --> 01:21:47.580 Presentation video: CFO also engages succeeding generations through Philippine schools overseas, asr-000307 01:21:48.060 --> 01:21:48.660 Presentation video: YouLeaD, asr-000310 01:21:49.100 --> 01:21:54.620 Presentation video: and the Virtual Centro Rizal, strengthening Filipino identity and their connection to the homeland. asr-000311 01:21:54.620 --> 01:22:03.720 Presentation video: Ugnayan brings CFO services, programs, and diaspora engagement initiatives directly to Filipino communities overseas. asr-000312 01:22:04.140 --> 01:22:07.820 Presentation video: CFO also brings NRF perspectives into policymaking, asr-000313 01:22:08.380 --> 01:22:14.300 Presentation video: helping ensure that diaspora concerns are reflected in government policy and migration governance. asr-000314 01:22:14.300 --> 01:22:25.720 Presentation video: PESO Sense strengthens financial literacy, supported by a digital community of 3.9 million followers and nearly 800,000 SAVERS Group members. asr-000315 01:22:25.940 --> 01:22:31.540 Presentation video: Together, these programs represent one of CFO's defining roles, our second frontline, asr-000316 01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:35.720 Presentation video: which continues after Filipinos have established lives overseas. asr-000317 01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:44.080 Presentation video: Here, CFO helps reconnect the diaspora with the Philippines and channel their knowledge, skills, networks, investments, asr-000318 01:22:44.620 --> 01:22:48.920 Presentation video: philanthropy, and other resources toward national and local development. asr-000319 01:22:49.280 --> 01:22:54.220 Presentation video: In this way, migration becomes a continuing circulation of knowledge and resources, asr-000320 01:22:54.620 --> 01:22:59.060 Presentation video: helping transform brain drain into brain gain through diaspora engagement. asr-000321 01:22:59.380 --> 01:23:02.000 Presentation video: CFO's work also begins before migration. asr-000322 01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:07.840 Presentation video: At our first frontline, we prepare and support Filipinos as they build new lives overseas. asr-000323 01:23:08.200 --> 01:23:14.060 Presentation video: In 2025, CFO served 81,859 Filipino migrants, asr-000324 01:23:14.060 --> 01:23:21.060 Presentation video: and program participants across its pre-departure, counseling, au pair, and exchange visitor programs. asr-000325 01:23:21.060 --> 01:23:29.740 Presentation video: CFO also protects migrants through the 1343 Action Line and its advocacy and coordination work against trafficking in persons. asr-000326 01:23:30.220 --> 01:23:35.860 Presentation video: As migration continues to evolve, so must the way government reaches and engages Filipinos overseas. asr-000327 01:23:36.380 --> 01:23:43.480 Presentation video: CFO is strengthening its digital services, BaLinkBayan, critical information systems, and overseas reach asr-000328 01:23:43.480 --> 01:23:44.040 Presentation video: through asr-000329 01:23:44.060 --> 01:23:48.060 Presentation video: honorary diaspora representatives in selected communities. asr-000330 01:23:48.060 --> 01:23:56.820 Presentation video: These initiatives will make government services more accessible and enable more Filipinos abroad to connect, participate, and contribute to the Philippines. asr-000331 01:23:56.820 --> 01:24:00.180 Presentation video: As the Filipino diaspora continues to grow and evolve, asr-000332 01:24:00.180 --> 01:24:05.780 Presentation video: so does the importance of keeping the Philippines connected to Filipinos wherever they may be. asr-000333 01:24:05.780 --> 01:24:11.380 Presentation video: CFO brings the global Filipino community closer to the country's development needs, asr-000334 01:24:11.380 --> 01:24:14.060 Presentation video: and brings credible avenues for participation, asr-000335 01:24:14.060 --> 01:24:17.060 Presentation video: closer to Filipinos wherever they are. asr-000336 01:24:17.060 --> 01:24:23.060 Presentation video: CFO translates public resources into programs and services for Filipinos overseas. asr-000337 01:24:23.060 --> 01:24:32.060 Presentation video: In 2025, the Commission posted a 91.36% obligation rate and a 92.60% disbursement rate. asr-000338 01:24:32.060 --> 01:24:42.060 Presentation video: For Fiscal Year 2027, the CFO has a proposed budget of P195.2 million under the National Expenditure Program. asr-000339 01:24:42.060 --> 01:24:43.060 Presentation video: Additional resources asr-000340 01:24:44.060 --> 01:24:48.060 Presentation video: will allow CFO to reach more Filipinos overseas, asr-000341 01:24:48.060 --> 01:24:50.060 Presentation video: strengthen program delivery, asr-000342 01:24:50.060 --> 01:24:52.060 Presentation video: expand digital access, asr-000343 01:24:52.060 --> 01:24:56.060 Presentation video: and deepen diaspora engagement for national and local development. asr-000344 01:25:00.060 --> 01:25:01.060 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Thank you, Mr. Chair. asr-000345 01:25:01.060 --> 01:25:03.060 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: We can take questions now. asr-000346 01:25:03.060 --> 01:25:05.060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Secretary. asr-000347 01:25:05.060 --> 01:25:08.060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Let me turn over the mic now to our Minority Leader, asr-000348 01:25:08.060 --> 01:25:10.060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Senator Allan Cayetano. asr-000349 01:25:10.060 --> 01:25:11.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. asr-000350 01:25:11.060 --> 01:25:13.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: As we were discussing, Mr. Chairman, asr-000351 01:25:13.060 --> 01:25:17.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: together also with Senator Rafi Tulfo, asr-000352 01:25:17.060 --> 01:25:21.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we were discussing the Department of Migrant Workers, Secretary Dante. asr-000353 01:25:21.060 --> 01:25:25.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The original version that, at least the one I filed, asr-000354 01:25:25.060 --> 01:25:28.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: first in the Senate and then in the House of Representatives, asr-000355 01:25:28.060 --> 01:25:32.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when it was passed, I was in the House of Representatives. asr-000356 01:25:32.060 --> 01:25:36.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The original version was not Department of Migrant Workers. asr-000357 01:25:36.060 --> 01:25:40.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's a department for overseas Filipinos. asr-000358 01:25:40.060 --> 01:25:41.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-000359 01:25:41.060 --> 01:25:46.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The idea then was God works in mysterious ways. asr-000360 01:25:46.060 --> 01:25:50.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So 2008 or 2009, I visited the UK. asr-000361 01:25:50.060 --> 01:25:57.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: A very good finance person and ambassador, Ambassador Espiritu, entertained me. asr-000362 01:25:57.060 --> 01:26:03.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: His joke was that he was fired because of GMA after I visited him. asr-000363 01:26:03.060 --> 01:26:07.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He brought in a couple of young people. asr-000364 01:26:07.060 --> 01:26:09.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And realistically, if you saw them, asr-000365 01:26:09.060 --> 01:26:13.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: maybe one looked very Filipino. asr-000366 01:26:13.060 --> 01:26:18.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two, may hint ka na tatay, nanay, lola nito Pilipino. asr-000367 01:26:18.060 --> 01:26:23.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung tatlo akala mo Indian, British Indian. asr-000368 01:26:23.060 --> 01:26:27.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung isa akala mo Chinese, British. asr-000369 01:26:27.060 --> 01:26:30.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But all of them had Filipino blood. asr-000370 01:26:30.060 --> 01:26:31.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then he said to me, asr-000371 01:26:31.060 --> 01:26:36.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator, these are the ones who have money. asr-000372 01:26:36.060 --> 01:26:38.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because they are the grandchildren. asr-000373 01:26:38.060 --> 01:26:43.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So yung migrants, yung lola nila, nurses, engineers, asr-000374 01:26:43.060 --> 01:26:45.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may [unclear] diyan. asr-000375 01:26:45.060 --> 01:26:47.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Talagang lahat ng klaseng hirap. asr-000376 01:26:47.060 --> 01:26:52.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero yung magulang nila nakapag-aral na sa mga UK schools, asr-000377 01:26:52.060 --> 01:26:53.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: British universities, asr-000378 01:26:53.060 --> 01:26:55.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with a good salary. asr-000379 01:26:55.060 --> 01:26:58.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But these ones, they are in the top schools. asr-000380 01:26:58.060 --> 01:27:01.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At yung mga graduate nito, pinag-aagawan na. asr-000381 01:27:01.060 --> 01:27:02.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So they are in good company. asr-000382 01:27:02.060 --> 01:27:06.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But most of them have never visited the Philippines. asr-000383 01:27:06.060 --> 01:27:08.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So he wanted to point out, asr-000384 01:27:08.060 --> 01:27:10.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he thought of a program. asr-000385 01:27:10.060 --> 01:27:12.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He said, yes, it's a good program. asr-000386 01:27:12.060 --> 01:27:14.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Let's say in Hong Kong, asr-000387 01:27:14.060 --> 01:27:17.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if your boss wants to join, asr-000388 01:27:17.060 --> 01:27:19.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it's a plus one visitor. asr-000389 01:27:19.060 --> 01:27:21.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And Hong Kong is just nearby. asr-000390 01:27:21.060 --> 01:27:23.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or if you're an engineer in Saudi, asr-000391 01:27:23.060 --> 01:27:31.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and you want to sell a different vacation spot from the usual, asr-000392 01:27:31.060 --> 01:27:33.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh marami din namang Muslim Filipino, asr-000393 01:27:33.060 --> 01:27:35.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so kino-consider din. asr-000394 01:27:35.060 --> 01:27:37.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But compared, for example, to Dubai, asr-000395 01:27:37.060 --> 01:27:39.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Indonesia, Malaysia, asr-000396 01:27:39.060 --> 01:27:44.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: medyo hindi tayo first, second, third choice. asr-000397 01:27:44.060 --> 01:27:46.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So we put that in the bill. asr-000398 01:27:46.060 --> 01:27:49.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Unfortunately, some members at that time, asr-000399 01:27:49.060 --> 01:27:52.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: even in the budget, asr-000400 01:27:52.060 --> 01:27:54.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm looking at your budget, asr-000401 01:27:54.060 --> 01:27:56.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one particular person, asr-000402 01:27:56.060 --> 01:27:58.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't name him because he just has an idea. asr-000403 01:27:58.060 --> 01:28:00.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He's not here in the Senate. asr-000404 01:28:00.060 --> 01:28:02.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He said, asr-000405 01:28:02.060 --> 01:28:04.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: why should we spend for people asr-000406 01:28:04.060 --> 01:28:06.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: who are no longer Filipinos? asr-000407 01:28:06.060 --> 01:28:07.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Right? asr-000408 01:28:07.060 --> 01:28:08.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Without, asr-000409 01:28:08.060 --> 01:28:10.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he didn't see the flip side. asr-000410 01:28:10.060 --> 01:28:13.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: He didn't choose, asr-000411 01:28:13.060 --> 01:28:15.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when he was born, asr-000412 01:28:15.060 --> 01:28:17.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that they are now apos, asr-000413 01:28:17.060 --> 01:28:19.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and their parents asr-000414 01:28:19.060 --> 01:28:22.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: are no longer Filipinos by citizenship, asr-000415 01:28:22.060 --> 01:28:24.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but Filipinos by blood. asr-000416 01:28:24.060 --> 01:28:25.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And later on, asr-000417 01:28:25.060 --> 01:28:28.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the dual citizenship was passed. asr-000418 01:28:28.060 --> 01:28:30.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And to some who do not own, asr-000419 01:28:30.060 --> 01:28:32.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or have no land here, asr-000420 01:28:32.060 --> 01:28:34.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and his whole family is in the US, asr-000421 01:28:34.060 --> 01:28:35.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Europe, asr-000422 01:28:35.060 --> 01:28:36.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Japan, asr-000423 01:28:36.060 --> 01:28:38.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in Korea, asr-000424 01:28:38.060 --> 01:28:40.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there was really no incentive asr-000425 01:28:40.060 --> 01:28:41.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to have dual citizenship. asr-000426 01:28:41.060 --> 01:28:43.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And there are some countries, asr-000427 01:28:43.060 --> 01:28:46.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: like Japan, asr-000428 01:28:46.060 --> 01:28:48.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I know a Filipino-Japanese, asr-000429 01:28:48.060 --> 01:28:49.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he said, asr-000430 01:28:49.060 --> 01:28:50.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, asr-000431 01:28:50.060 --> 01:28:51.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: here, asr-000432 01:28:51.060 --> 01:28:52.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when we ask, asr-000433 01:28:52.060 --> 01:28:53.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we need to answer in Japanese. asr-000434 01:28:53.060 --> 01:28:55.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Unlike in the US or the Philippines, asr-000435 01:28:55.060 --> 01:28:56.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when you ask, asr-000436 01:28:56.060 --> 01:28:58.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can say that you are a dual citizen. asr-000437 01:28:58.060 --> 01:28:59.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-000438 01:28:59.060 --> 01:29:00.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So my point, asr-000439 01:29:00.060 --> 01:29:01.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Secretary, asr-000440 01:29:01.060 --> 01:29:02.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is that asr-000441 01:29:02.060 --> 01:29:04.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at the end of this year, asr-000442 01:29:04.060 --> 01:29:07.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the law creating the asr-000443 01:29:07.060 --> 01:29:09.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Department of Migrant Workers asr-000444 01:29:09.060 --> 01:29:12.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: will trigger for early next year asr-000445 01:29:12.060 --> 01:29:14.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a review. asr-000446 01:29:14.060 --> 01:29:16.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And both Senator Tulfos have said asr-000447 01:29:16.060 --> 01:29:18.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that they will spend time on that. asr-000448 01:29:18.060 --> 01:29:20.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And I just want to lay that on your feet asr-000449 01:29:20.060 --> 01:29:22.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because you're in the cabinet. asr-000450 01:29:22.060 --> 01:29:24.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Look at the interplay of asr-000451 01:29:24.060 --> 01:29:26.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because it's complicated enough asr-000452 01:29:26.060 --> 01:29:28.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what is with the migrant workers, asr-000453 01:29:28.060 --> 01:29:30.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what is with the DFA. asr-000454 01:29:30.060 --> 01:29:33.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then you will add more Filipinos asr-000455 01:29:33.060 --> 01:29:34.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: overseas. asr-000456 01:29:34.060 --> 01:29:36.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And I was looking at your programs, asr-000457 01:29:36.060 --> 01:29:37.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: magaganda, asr-000458 01:29:37.060 --> 01:29:39.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: katulad nung mga pre-depart, asr-000459 01:29:39.060 --> 01:29:41.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung PIDOS, asr-000460 01:29:41.060 --> 01:29:43.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung sa DFA, asr-000461 01:29:43.060 --> 01:29:46.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may paos din sila aside from PIDOS. asr-000462 01:29:46.060 --> 01:29:48.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But if I look at the flip side, asr-000463 01:29:48.060 --> 01:29:49.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'd like you to, asr-000464 01:29:49.060 --> 01:29:51.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'd like you to have programs asr-000465 01:29:51.060 --> 01:29:52.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the US, asr-000466 01:29:52.060 --> 01:29:53.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the UK, asr-000467 01:29:53.060 --> 01:29:54.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in France, asr-000468 01:29:54.060 --> 01:29:56.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: getting these young Filipinos asr-000469 01:29:56.060 --> 01:29:59.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to get to know their country by black. asr-000470 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:02.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: by origin. And you'll be surprised asr-000471 01:30:02.120 --> 01:30:03.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Tulfo, there's asr-000472 01:30:03.280 --> 01:30:05.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what year was that? asr-000473 01:30:06.500 --> 01:30:08.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If I'm not mistaken, I was asr-000474 01:30:08.140 --> 01:30:10.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: either a new senator or congressman asr-000475 01:30:10.300 --> 01:30:13.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pa ako. So around 2007-2008 asr-000476 01:30:13.100 --> 01:30:14.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we went to South Africa asr-000477 01:30:14.400 --> 01:30:16.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the embassy asr-000478 01:30:16.320 --> 01:30:18.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: brought Filipinos to us asr-000479 01:30:18.100 --> 01:30:20.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and they were there since asr-000480 01:30:20.200 --> 01:30:21.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: late 1800s asr-000481 01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:23.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and they were asked asr-000482 01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:26.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how did your ninunos asr-000483 01:30:26.140 --> 01:30:28.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: get here? Sabi na sir asr-000484 01:30:28.220 --> 01:30:31.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1800s pa lang asr-000485 01:30:31.140 --> 01:30:32.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagsustokwa na asr-000486 01:30:32.780 --> 01:30:34.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga Pilipino sa mga ships asr-000487 01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:37.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos kung saan may opportunity asr-000488 01:30:37.020 --> 01:30:40.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon. So yung mga lolot-lola asr-000489 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:42.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: namin, nasa mga asr-000490 01:30:42.740 --> 01:30:44.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ships, galleon trade, whatever asr-000491 01:30:44.700 --> 01:30:46.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: it is. Alam naman asr-000492 01:30:46.820 --> 01:30:47.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: natin galleon trade asr-000493 01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:50.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mexico, through Mexico asr-000494 01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:51.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then Spain. But asr-000495 01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:54.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may mga ganun talaga. But asr-000496 01:30:54.220 --> 01:30:55.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: because the embassy there asr-000497 01:30:55.860 --> 01:30:58.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tuwing may bibisita na asr-000498 01:30:58.120 --> 01:31:00.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippine delegation, ipapakilala asr-000499 01:31:00.260 --> 01:31:02.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but sa iba, nawawala asr-000500 01:31:02.400 --> 01:31:03.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung institutional memory. asr-000501 01:31:04.320 --> 01:31:07.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I remember in 2007-2008 asr-000502 01:31:07.580 --> 01:31:08.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or 2009 asr-000503 01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: first time ko sa Ukraine asr-000504 01:31:10.080 --> 01:31:12.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: very very different asr-000505 01:31:12.440 --> 01:31:14.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when we went to a new hotel asr-000506 01:31:14.260 --> 01:31:16.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may gumaganon na chef asr-000507 01:31:16.240 --> 01:31:18.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi nasa gitna, yung open yung kitchen asr-000508 01:31:18.440 --> 01:31:20.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nasa gitna ng hotel, gumaganon asr-000509 01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:22.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: takan-taka yung mga tao asr-000510 01:31:22.480 --> 01:31:24.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos sabi nung honorary consul asr-000511 01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:26.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: no no, we have about five asr-000512 01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:28.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: uh asr-000513 01:31:28.120 --> 01:31:29.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipinos here. asr-000514 01:31:30.280 --> 01:31:32.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How did they get here? Well, some went asr-000515 01:31:32.440 --> 01:31:34.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to Europe, some went to Russia asr-000516 01:31:34.100 --> 01:31:36.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta somehow Filipinos find asr-000517 01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:37.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the way. Parang tubig asr-000518 01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:40.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit anong harang mo sa dam asr-000519 01:31:40.380 --> 01:31:42.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and everything, hahanap yung Pilipino. asr-000520 01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:44.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So I promise the chairman, maikli lang asr-000521 01:31:44.380 --> 01:31:46.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So I do asr-000522 01:31:46.360 --> 01:31:48.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: want you to have the budget you need asr-000523 01:31:48.320 --> 01:31:49.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but vis-a-vis asr-000524 01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:52.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the programs that will asr-000525 01:31:52.420 --> 01:31:53.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bring in asr-000526 01:31:53.900 --> 01:31:56.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not only funds asr-000527 01:31:56.700 --> 01:31:57.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: not only asr-000528 01:31:58.120 --> 01:32:00.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: uh put it another way, no? asr-000529 01:32:00.120 --> 01:32:02.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If there's gonna be a revival asr-000530 01:32:02.120 --> 01:32:04.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of Filipino culture in the same asr-000531 01:32:04.120 --> 01:32:06.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: way that nung nagkaroon ng K-drama asr-000532 01:32:06.120 --> 01:32:08.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: K-pop, di ba? asr-000533 01:32:08.120 --> 01:32:10.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung I remember asr-000534 01:32:10.120 --> 01:32:12.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when I was a new congressman asr-000535 01:32:12.120 --> 01:32:14.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1998, pagpunta ka ng asr-000536 01:32:14.120 --> 01:32:16.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Malaysia, Thailand, yung mga DVD asr-000537 01:32:16.120 --> 01:32:18.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or VCD pa ba yung pirated nun? asr-000538 01:32:18.120 --> 01:32:20.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mga dinab na Filipino asr-000539 01:32:20.120 --> 01:32:22.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: movies, di ba? Then sumikat asr-000540 01:32:22.120 --> 01:32:24.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang Bollywood and then asr-000541 01:32:24.120 --> 01:32:26.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: later on sumikat na yung Korea asr-000542 01:32:26.120 --> 01:32:27.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but one of these days, whether it's asr-000543 01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:29.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipino food, whether it's yung asr-000544 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:31.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ube ngayon abroad, asr-000545 01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:33.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's asr-000546 01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:35.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: our traditional hilot asr-000547 01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:37.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in the massage, asr-000548 01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:39.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's our family asr-000549 01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:41.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: oriented culture, asr-000550 01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:43.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one of these days, magkakaroon asr-000551 01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:45.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng renaissance din ng asr-000552 01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:47.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what is Filipino and with more than asr-000553 01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:49.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 10 million Filipinos abroad, asr-000554 01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:51.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think your asr-000555 01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:53.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: commission asr-000556 01:32:53.960 --> 01:32:55.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: needs an asr-000557 01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: upgrade all around. asr-000558 01:32:57.800 --> 01:32:59.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Personal, resources, asr-000559 01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:01.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: programs, etc. So sa asr-000560 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:03.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: US alone, asr-000561 01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:05.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at least when I was in DFA, they said 6 million asr-000562 01:33:05.800 --> 01:33:07.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang tingin nilang asr-000563 01:33:07.800 --> 01:33:09.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may Filipino heritage. asr-000564 01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:11.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Halo na daw yun na asr-000565 01:33:11.800 --> 01:33:13.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: TNT asr-000566 01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:15.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: totally Americano na asr-000567 01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:17.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dual citizen and everything. asr-000568 01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:19.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that's not a small number. asr-000569 01:33:19.800 --> 01:33:21.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Can you imagine if 10% of them asr-000570 01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:23.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: travel to the Philippines, asr-000571 01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:25.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's 600,000. If each asr-000572 01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:27.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of them may isang anak or may isang asawa, asr-000573 01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:29.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na hindi asr-000574 01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:31.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of Filipino descent, asr-000575 01:33:31.800 --> 01:33:33.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that's 1.2 million. Ang highest asr-000576 01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:35.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: atin-atin sa tourism is asr-000577 01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:37.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: around 1.6 million, which is asr-000578 01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:39.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know if it's Koreans now or the Japanese. asr-000579 01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:41.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But my point is asr-000580 01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:43.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for every tourist that comes in, for every asr-000581 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:45.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two tourists, two to three, asr-000582 01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:47.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one Filipino job is created here. asr-000583 01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:49.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And like me, asr-000584 01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:51.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: on my asr-000585 01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:53.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mother's side, my grandfather asr-000586 01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:55.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is German asr-000587 01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: American, but I've never asr-000588 01:33:57.800 --> 01:33:59.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: been to the island which is in the asr-000589 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:01.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: boundary of asr-000590 01:34:01.800 --> 01:34:03.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: France and Germany. asr-000591 01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:05.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I've never been there. asr-000592 01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:07.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I've never been in Germany per se. asr-000593 01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:09.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But if the German government asr-000594 01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:11.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: had a program asr-000595 01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:13.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and I got to go there 30 years asr-000596 01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:15.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ago, maybe every five years asr-000597 01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:17.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pumupunta. asr-000598 01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:19.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala pa akong nakitang pute asr-000599 01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:21.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na turista na may asr-000600 01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:23.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: opportunity na pumunta ng Pilipinas once asr-000601 01:34:23.800 --> 01:34:25.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na hindi bumalik. asr-000602 01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:27.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In fact, if you look at let's say si Becoming asr-000603 01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:29.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipino, si Kulas, asr-000604 01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:31.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: he opted not to asr-000605 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:33.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: leave anymore. asr-000606 01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:35.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We have a number of US personnel asr-000607 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:37.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when we had US bases. asr-000608 01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:39.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They married here asr-000609 01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:41.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or some remarried asr-000610 01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:43.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and did not leave anymore. asr-000611 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:45.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I know at least a few asr-000612 01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:47.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ambassadors who asr-000613 01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:49.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: got married to a asr-000614 01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:51.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipina after their assignment here asr-000615 01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:53.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but they plan to asr-000616 01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:55.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: come back. So I leave it asr-000617 01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at that thought na asr-000618 01:34:57.800 --> 01:34:59.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if you can have a program to get asr-000619 01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:01.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: people of asr-000620 01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:03.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipino blood asr-000621 01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:05.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to be more conscious of their asr-000622 01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:07.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: motherland than to get asr-000623 01:35:07.800 --> 01:35:09.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: them here, I think we shouldn't asr-000624 01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:11.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: be short-sighted in parang ano yung asr-000625 01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:13.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: immediate na babalik sa atin. asr-000626 01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:15.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba kasi magtatanim ka talaga ng asr-000627 01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:17.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: matagal-tagal. asr-000628 01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:19.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean if you look at the Tulfos for example, asr-000629 01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:21.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I grew up knowing asr-000630 01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:23.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung eldest nyo si asr-000631 01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:25.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mon Tulfo at asr-000632 01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:27.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the time hindi pa SOCMED. It was really asr-000633 01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:29.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: inquirer ba? asr-000634 01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:31.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba inquirer? asr-000635 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:33.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But parang sa bilis ng panahon suddenly asr-000636 01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:35.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: silang magkakapatid. Ibat-ibang shows asr-000637 01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:37.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero suddenly popular asr-000638 01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:39.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa lahat. Di ba? So asr-000639 01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:41.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tanim lang ng tanim eh. Then you wake asr-000640 01:35:41.800 --> 01:35:43.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: up one day nandoon. asr-000641 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:45.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So you might be the right. May timing asr-000642 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:47.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: din eh. May timing. I mean asr-000643 01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:49.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what I'm saying now is not original. asr-000644 01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:51.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's probably also from people asr-000645 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:53.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in your commission who I heard asr-000646 01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:55.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: years ago or asr-000647 01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: people from DFA who gave a couple asr-000648 01:35:57.800 --> 01:35:59.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of ideas. asr-000649 01:35:59.800 --> 01:36:01.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The last point I wanna make is that asr-000650 01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:03.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the few trips that I did asr-000651 01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:05.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: make as DFA Secretary, asr-000652 01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:07.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang dami pala talagang official na asr-000653 01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:09.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pilipino. Di ba? Whether sa asr-000654 01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:11.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: US ay met nun yung Soljen asr-000655 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:13.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: who was asr-000656 01:36:13.800 --> 01:36:15.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Filipino din. Of course asr-000657 01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:17.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung mga actors asr-000658 01:36:17.800 --> 01:36:19.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and sports, baseball, asr-000659 01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:21.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basketball marami. But asr-000660 01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:23.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa New Zealand asr-000661 01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:25.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba meron isa na tumakbo asr-000662 01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:27.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Parliament. asr-000663 01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:29.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know now. But ang point ko asr-000664 01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:31.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lang sir, mahirap asr-000665 01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:33.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: makialam sa politika ng ibang bansa. asr-000666 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:35.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But just connecting asr-000667 01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:37.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's New York City, Daly City, asr-000668 01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:39.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's in Hawaii na maraming asr-000669 01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:41.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pilipino. I think that's asr-000670 01:36:41.800 --> 01:36:43.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: invaluable para sa asr-000671 01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:45.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa atin. So dati kasi asr-000672 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:47.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: susulat ka pa, te-telegrama, mahirap asr-000673 01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:49.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: makontakt. Ngayon ma-meet mo asr-000674 01:36:49.800 --> 01:36:51.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lang at may relationship ka. Whether sa messenger, asr-000675 01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:53.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: WhatsApp, Viber, asr-000676 01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:55.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can keep in touch. Yung iba nagro-group asr-000677 01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chat pa. And the younger they are, asr-000678 01:36:57.800 --> 01:36:59.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the more open they are to asr-000679 01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:01.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to asr-000680 01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:03.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to keeping in asr-000681 01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:05.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: touch and then to visiting each other's asr-000682 01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:07.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: country. So I did asr-000683 01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:09.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: most of the talking but I'd like to support asr-000684 01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:11.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a bigger budget in the plenary. asr-000685 01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:13.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I think to do that asr-000686 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:15.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and para hindi tayo asr-000687 01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:17.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ma-accus ng insertion yun, asr-000688 01:37:17.800 --> 01:37:19.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there has to be a program. asr-000689 01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:21.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I really think whether it's asr-000690 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:23.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta kung saan pinakamaraming Pinoy asr-000691 01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:25.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: was looking nandito sa asr-000692 01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:27.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whether it's asr-000693 01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:29.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: US or yung asr-000694 01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:31.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pinoy pero asr-000695 01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:33.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how do I put it? asr-000696 01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:35.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tinatarget natin sila na asr-000697 01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:37.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: visit the Philippines pero asr-000698 01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:39.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi sila necessarily asr-000699 01:37:39.800 --> 01:37:41.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: gagastusan mo kasi pupunta rin asr-000700 01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:43.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naman sila ngayon. So obviously asr-000701 01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:45.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if OFW sila, may asr-000702 01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:47.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: programa na sa kanilang POEA or asr-000703 01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:49.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: whatever. So asr-000704 01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:51.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Chairman, yun lang yung aking asr-000705 01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:53.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: input and asr-000706 01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:55.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: my way of supporting asr-000707 01:37:55.800 --> 01:37:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the present programs by talking about asr-000708 01:37:57.800 --> 01:37:59.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the other side, aside from asr-000709 01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:01.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung... asr-000710 01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:03.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: We do have a... asr-000711 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:05.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So like my mother, asr-000712 01:38:05.800 --> 01:38:07.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: she didn't take Filipino citizenship asr-000713 01:38:07.800 --> 01:38:09.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero nag-retiree. asr-000714 01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:11.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So asr-000715 01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:13.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and for example, Dumaguete asr-000716 01:38:13.800 --> 01:38:15.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is always in the top five, asr-000717 01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:17.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: top three, top five asr-000718 01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:19.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: best place to retire in the world. asr-000719 01:38:19.800 --> 01:38:21.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Habang paganda ng paganda asr-000720 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:23.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung Clark, I think asr-000721 01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:25.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pala... asr-000722 01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:27.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So many places in the Philippines that could really asr-000723 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:29.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: be place for retirement asr-000724 01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:31.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or even for young people to asr-000725 01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:33.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: study, baka pwede din sa commission asr-000726 01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:35.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nyo yun na parang asr-000727 01:38:35.800 --> 01:38:37.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: study in the Philippines or asr-000728 01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:39.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: do a summer in the Philippines or asr-000729 01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:41.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: put up a business in the asr-000730 01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:43.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Philippines, retire in the Philippines. Thank you asr-000731 01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:45.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Chairman. asr-000732 01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:47.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Majority...Minority asr-000733 01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:49.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Leader. Isang question asr-000734 01:38:49.800 --> 01:38:51.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: lang po, Secretary. I wanted to question asr-000735 01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:53.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: how many have you asr-000736 01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:55.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: served the CFO? How many asr-000737 01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:57.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Filipinos or asr-000738 01:38:57.800 --> 01:38:59.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: permanent residents have you served asr-000739 01:38:59.800 --> 01:39:01.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: last year? asr-000740 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:03.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Mr. Chair, asr-000741 01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:05.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: about 70,000 po go asr-000742 01:39:05.800 --> 01:39:07.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: through our office for the pre-departure orientation asr-000743 01:39:07.800 --> 01:39:09.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: seminar. But as our asr-000744 01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:11.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: presentation showed po, asr-000745 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:13.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we are looking to see how asr-000746 01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:15.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: the Honorable Minority Leader said, asr-000747 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:17.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: how we can also engage them to asr-000748 01:39:17.800 --> 01:39:19.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: come back to the Philippines in various ways. asr-000749 01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:21.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: I'm glad po the Minority Leader asr-000750 01:39:21.800 --> 01:39:23.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: brought up that very interesting program asr-000751 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:25.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and he may be asr-000752 01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:27.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: glad to know po that the CFO asr-000753 01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:29.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: has the youth leaders in the asr-000754 01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:31.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: diaspora program. This has been a decades asr-000755 01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:33.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: long program where asr-000756 01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:35.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we invite young asr-000757 01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:37.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: members of the Filipino diaspora asr-000758 01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:39.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: to come to the Philippines asr-000759 01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:41.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: to learn about our culture asr-000760 01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:43.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: and heritage. asr-000761 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:45.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Nagsimula po yung program na yan asr-000762 01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:47.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: sa Lakbay Aral. Pero asr-000763 01:39:47.800 --> 01:39:49.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: over the years po, we asr-000764 01:39:49.800 --> 01:39:51.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: inserted leadership asr-000765 01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:53.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: training components asr-000766 01:39:53.800 --> 01:39:55.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: so that hindi lang po siya po asr-000767 01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:57.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: to resume. asr-000768 01:39:57.800 --> 01:39:59.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: But importante rin po yan. asr-000769 01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:01.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: So, asr-000770 01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:03.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: we haven't yet quantified po yung asr-000771 01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:05.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: pabalik, but the ones outgoing po, asr-000772 01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:07.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: about 70,000 po. asr-000773 01:40:07.800 --> 01:40:09.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Okay, thank you. asr-000774 01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:11.800 CFO Chairperson Dante Francis M. Ang II: Thank you. asr-000775 01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:13.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Do you have any more questions? You're good. asr-000776 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:15.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Well, anyway, there being no asr-000777 01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:17.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: other questions, the fiscal asr-000778 01:40:17.800 --> 01:40:19.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: year 2027 proposed budget asr-000779 01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:21.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: of the Commission on Filipino Overseas asr-000780 01:40:21.800 --> 01:40:23.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: is now being submitted for asr-000781 01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:25.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: consideration, subject to asr-000782 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:27.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: the discussions and submission of asr-000783 01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:29.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: requested documents. Thank you, asr-000784 01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:31.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Secretary. And the CFO delegation asr-000785 01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:33.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: is now permitted to leave the venue. asr-000786 01:40:33.800 --> 01:40:35.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: This budget briefing of asr-000787 01:40:35.800 --> 01:40:37.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: the CFO is now over. Thank you. asr-000788 01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:41.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Budget briefing is suspended. asr-000801 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:59.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: exclude ourselves to 80,000 events that have more than 20,000 participants, because the biggest exhibition center we have now is 18,000. Yung MOA po, ang PICC is 10,000, of course on two venues, and ang World Trade is asr-000802 01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:29.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 14,000. Yun naman pong Philippine Arena, wala pong hotel, hindi maka-attract po ng international MICE events. So this will be colossal trade fairs. From the past and now, we had to turn away events because of the lack of facilities. Marami ho tayong tine-turn away. We will open ourselves and unlock the ability to host world rotating asr-000803 01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:59.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: association congresses and global trade fairs. It will be a 140,000-square-meter main venue. The building will be [unclear] square meters and will be the biggest in Southeast Asia. For example, Singapore Trade Expo has a 120,000 asr-000804 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:29.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: square-meter area, but they attracted 1.5 million participants. A 140,000-square-meter venue at an industry standard 50 to 60 percent utilization rate could reasonably attract an additional 300,000 to 500,000 delegates. asr-000805 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:59.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Nung nagpe-present po kami sa Nether Board, tinanong po, "Malaki naman yung halaga ng building ninyo. Bakit hindi na natin ibigay sa Department of Tourism yan?" Sabi po ng Department of Tourism, sila na sumagot para sa amin: "Your Honor, we would rather have the PIEC that will bring in the tourists." Right now, a regular tourist spends 6,000 per night, per day. asr-000806 01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:29.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Karamihan po ngayon ng tourists, mga backpackers, mga estudyante. But a tourist will bring in 30,000 dahil funded po sila ng korporasyon nila, ng gobyerno nila, and they will set up booths. This influx would represent a [unclear] increase over pre-pandemic baseline arrivals, [unclear] the Philippines into a top asr-000807 01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:59.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: global destination. Ngayon po tayo sa [unclear] because we only get [unclear] tourists. PIEC's return on investment is [unclear]. One is PIEC's economic effects. The PIEC is designed to generate economic value beyond asr-000808 01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:29.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: its immediate project. It will be a powerful catalyst for growth across sectors: commerce, tourism, real estate, transport, [unclear], services, IT, hotels, asr-000809 01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:59.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: shopping, restaurants, transport. It will not only [unclear] national taxes but local taxes. Number two, the PIEC will hasten real estate growth. We anticipate significant [unclear] from local and [unclear] partners, increasing appraisal of our own asr-000810 01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:29.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: real estate. Alam niyo po dito sa MOA, Financial at Entertainment City, it took us 49 years for [unclear] casinos, [unclear] hotels, tens of thousands of units and millions of square [unclear] for commercial and cultural purposes. May simbahan po, etc. asr-000811 01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:59.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi na po natin [unclear] 49 years. This will be an anchor tenant, and we believe we are already attracting inquiries from hotel owners. From 62,000 per square [unclear] ang valuation ng lupa two years ago when we conceived PIEC, at nalaman po internationally, asr-000812 01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:29.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: the value po ngayon, the last sale in the newly reclaimed area is already [unclear]. Sa appraisal value pa lang po ng Republika ng Pilipinas, the Republic owns [unclear] of the newly reclaimed land and about 400,000 [unclear]. asr-000813 01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:59.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So it is a total of about [unclear]. This appreciation in land value, the PIEC's ability to [unclear] property assets, enhance [unclear], create jobs and generate a stream of government revenue, a strong foundation for future investments and broader tax base and urban development. asr-000814 01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:27.640 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: As one of PBBM's legacy and flagship projects and infrastructure, PIEC is set to be a substantial source of government revenue stream over the next 50 years, a conservative estimate contribution to the national government of at least P422 billion based on PRA projections confirmed by the DOF, the NEDA, and the ICC. asr-000815 01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:41.700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: This is conservative. The Ways and Means has estimated a higher value, the Congress Ways and Means Committee, which we are gladly to give you. asr-000816 01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:55.720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: This long-term revenue position, PIEC, as a sustainable revenue source for government, reinforcing the financial infrastructure needed to fund essential government services. asr-000817 01:53:55.720 --> 01:53:56.920 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ngayon po, asr-000818 01:53:56.920 --> 01:54:09.540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: when we assumed office, 38 billion lang po noong November 2023, 38 billion lang po ang assets ng PRA. asr-000819 01:54:10.120 --> 01:54:14.160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ngayon po, 228 billion na. asr-000820 01:54:14.780 --> 01:54:17.840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And soon, we project it to be 400 billion. asr-000821 01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:26.840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And when we reach the full potential, that is when, kasi hindi naman natin pwede ibenta ng wala sa halagang ang lupa natin. asr-000822 01:54:26.920 --> 01:54:35.520 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So when it reaches full potential, maybe two, three years from now, then doon po talaga makikinabang ang Republika ng Pilipinas. asr-000823 01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:37.900 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So, impact on future generations. asr-000824 01:54:38.400 --> 01:54:47.220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC will serve as a foundation for job creation across various industries and forge stronger partnership within and across the border. asr-000825 01:54:47.220 --> 01:54:54.220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: By delivering large-scale and integrated paradigm for development, the PIEC will broaden the landscape of office. asr-000826 01:54:54.220 --> 01:54:56.300 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC will broaden the landscape of office. asr-000827 01:54:56.300 --> 01:54:56.900 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC will broaden the landscape of office. asr-000828 01:54:56.920 --> 01:55:08.060 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and showcase our greatest assets, our people, our culture, and stand as an enduring testament and its endeavors. asr-000829 01:55:09.740 --> 01:55:17.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The project will be located on 81,000 square meters, owned by the PRA within the Pasay City Harbor Reclamation, asr-000830 01:55:17.980 --> 01:55:25.720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: a newly reclaimed land within Pasay City, and it's part of a Pasay Eco-City coastal development, asr-000831 01:55:25.720 --> 01:55:28.840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: which is about 6.5 million square meters. asr-000832 01:55:28.840 --> 01:55:34.480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang natituluhan na ho dito, 135 hectares. asr-000833 01:55:34.480 --> 01:55:37.960 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: This year, we expect another 225. asr-000834 01:55:37.960 --> 01:55:41.940 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And next year, the balance of 3 million square meters po. asr-000835 01:55:41.940 --> 01:55:47.380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We are growing very fast, completing the projects very fast. asr-000836 01:55:47.380 --> 01:55:55.540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: It will be connected to the mainland by 15 bridges that will be construed to be fully funded, asr-000837 01:55:55.540 --> 01:56:00.420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: by the private sector, wala pong gastos ang gobyerno rito. asr-000838 01:56:00.420 --> 01:56:09.880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: It will have 88 kilometers of road, it will have 120 kilometers of sewer lines and flood control, asr-000839 01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:16.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and 22 kilometers of revetment. asr-000840 01:56:16.320 --> 01:56:24.400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So yung sinasabi po nila, mawawala yung dagat po, yung isa pong project natin, yung SM, asr-000841 01:56:24.400 --> 01:56:32.280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: pinaatras po ni Presidente ng 500 meters para magkaroon po ng gap between Sofitel area asr-000842 01:56:32.280 --> 01:56:34.180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and the newly reclaimed area. asr-000843 01:56:34.180 --> 01:56:41.480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kaya makikita niyo po that we will have 22 kilometers of new coastline. asr-000844 01:56:41.480 --> 01:56:44.280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And lahat po ito, libre sa gobyerno. asr-000845 01:56:44.280 --> 01:56:50.740 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We will have 88 kilometers of bike lane, sidewalk, free electricity and water lines to the government's asr-000846 01:56:50.740 --> 01:56:53.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 3 million 100 square meters. asr-000847 01:56:54.400 --> 01:57:00.660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We will have 312,000 square meters of parks and green spaces, all free of charge. asr-000848 01:57:01.160 --> 01:57:04.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: This is made possible by the funding of the private sectors. asr-000849 01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:10.880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The immediate implementations of these projects have been accelerated through the construction asr-000850 01:57:10.880 --> 01:57:12.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: of the PIEC. asr-000851 01:57:12.580 --> 01:57:16.680 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Dahil may deadline po tayong minimit, lahat po nag-a-apport ngayon. asr-000852 01:57:17.240 --> 01:57:21.440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Makikita niyo sa mga pictures, nandyan na po yung mga tulay, ginagawa na po. asr-000853 01:57:21.820 --> 01:57:23.740 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Nandyan na yung mga kalye, ginagawa na po. asr-000854 01:57:24.400 --> 01:57:29.580 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Seven of these bridges will be completed before the targeted date, completion date asr-000855 01:57:29.580 --> 01:57:30.620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: of the PIEC. asr-000856 01:57:30.620 --> 01:57:33.180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: As for before, wala ho silang date. asr-000857 01:57:33.320 --> 01:57:38.360 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ngayon po, binilisan po namin para ma-jumpstart at umabot sa PIEC. asr-000858 01:57:38.860 --> 01:57:47.280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Currently, we can benchmark PIEC against Singapore's 1.5 million tourists, Expo-level utilization, asr-000859 01:57:48.080 --> 01:57:49.920 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Canton-style trade orientation. asr-000860 01:57:50.320 --> 01:57:53.620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Of course, we cannot compare because they have a huge, huge competition. asr-000861 01:57:54.400 --> 01:58:01.700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Canton Exhibition Center and Bangkok Po, which has 1.2 million exhibitors last year. asr-000862 01:58:02.020 --> 01:58:09.700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Through the infrastructure presented earlier, we can develop PIEC and its immediate environs asr-000863 01:58:09.700 --> 01:58:12.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: including transport, utilities. asr-000864 01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:19.840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC is an exhibition and convention center envisioned to capture the growing demand asr-000865 01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:24.380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: for meetings, incentives, conventions, and exhibitions. asr-000866 01:58:24.400 --> 01:58:26.900 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Tourism in Southeast Asia. asr-000867 01:58:27.280 --> 01:58:33.800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kami po sa PRA, we are positioning ourselves not to be a mice for Philippine products and asr-000868 01:58:33.800 --> 01:58:39.820 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: people and events and meetings, but we want to steal some of the, sorry for the word po, asr-000869 01:58:40.060 --> 01:58:48.820 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: we want to take some of the tourism from Singapore, which has 1.5 million mice participants asr-000870 01:58:48.820 --> 01:58:51.720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: in Singapore Expo alone in Thailand. asr-000871 01:58:51.720 --> 01:58:54.380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We are confident we can do this. asr-000872 01:58:54.400 --> 01:58:56.420 Senator Erwin Tulfo: One quick question, Mr. Chairman. asr-000873 01:58:57.260 --> 01:59:08.680 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ano po ang specific competitive advantage ng PIEC natin na wala sa existing convention and exhibition facilities asr-000874 01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:11.100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: sa isang bangsa? asr-000875 01:59:11.540 --> 01:59:18.080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: At ano po magiging dahilan para piliin ng international organizers ang PIEC natin asr-000876 01:59:18.080 --> 01:59:21.660 Senator Erwin Tulfo: kaysa sa ibang venue sa Southeast Asia, Singapore, Thailand? asr-000877 01:59:24.400 --> 01:59:24.760 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Sorry. asr-000878 01:59:25.360 --> 01:59:30.480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Unang-una po, mura po ang labor dito. asr-000879 01:59:30.980 --> 01:59:38.020 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Mas mura ang hotel natin sa Singapore at sa Thailand, lalo na pag nadatingan na ho yung mga mice tourists. asr-000880 01:59:38.540 --> 01:59:41.100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang nagtatayo po ng boots dito, mura po. asr-000881 01:59:41.660 --> 01:59:45.040 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And this will be a novelty for this exhibition. asr-000882 01:59:45.260 --> 01:59:51.220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Alam nyo naman, marami ho dito sa nag-e-exhibition po, junket ang hinahanap. asr-000883 01:59:51.220 --> 01:59:54.000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi naman pwede puro Thailand, Singapore. asr-000884 01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:56.000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At Japan at China lang sila. asr-000885 01:59:56.440 --> 01:59:58.560 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So marami po rito nag-o-open. asr-000886 01:59:58.680 --> 02:00:00.160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: In fact, we have already had... asr-000887 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:01.360 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Some inquiries on this, no? asr-000888 02:00:01.580 --> 02:00:03.400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Patanong ko lang din po, Mr. Chairman. asr-000889 02:00:04.080 --> 02:00:15.300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: May projected number na po ba ang international conventions, exhibitions, events na inaasahan po natin na dadalhin po ng PIEC kada taon? asr-000890 02:00:15.820 --> 02:00:19.460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ano po ang assumption at saan nyo po nakuha itong projections na ito? asr-000891 02:00:19.460 --> 02:00:27.680 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang projections po namin, nakuha namin sa Department of Tourism po at data from Singapore and Thailand po. asr-000892 02:00:27.680 --> 02:00:36.260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 1.5 million po ang nakuha po ng Singapore Expo last year. asr-000893 02:00:36.780 --> 02:00:43.440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And Singapore Expo is only 120,000 square meters. asr-000894 02:00:44.060 --> 02:00:50.640 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And Thailand which is 240,000 square meters, nakakuha po ng 1.2 million. asr-000895 02:00:50.760 --> 02:00:53.340 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Of course, these are developed, we cannot compare. asr-000896 02:00:53.880 --> 02:00:57.200 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So we go at a very low level sa umpisa po. asr-000897 02:00:57.200 --> 02:01:05.000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi 140,000 po ang makakuha lang tayo ng isa o dalawang event na kalahati po noon. asr-000898 02:01:05.120 --> 02:01:07.220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Di 140,000 tourists na po. asr-000899 02:01:07.820 --> 02:01:12.460 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Spending at an average of 30,000, malaki na po. asr-000900 02:01:13.580 --> 02:01:21.840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So, this will be the largest in Southeast Asia with 243,000 square meters. asr-000901 02:01:22.220 --> 02:01:25.660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And we would like to thank the President for his vision. asr-000902 02:01:26.440 --> 02:01:26.840 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: In thinking of... asr-000903 02:01:27.200 --> 02:01:29.180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: To engage in MICE. asr-000904 02:01:29.720 --> 02:01:32.960 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So, at least we are thinking big in economics. asr-000905 02:01:33.240 --> 02:01:39.880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So, it aims to represent the country as a nation that is international in its outlook and ambitions asr-000906 02:01:39.880 --> 02:01:45.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: with a desire to engage with the global community and foster connection. asr-000907 02:01:46.380 --> 02:01:54.640 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC aims to be a catalyst, not only of MICE events, but a meeting place to showcase not only Philippine products, asr-000908 02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:57.180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: culture, arts, history, and culture. asr-000909 02:01:57.200 --> 02:02:09.260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: But also the Philippines' plan to position itself as a meeting place and trading center of Asian products, culture, people, history, and tradition. asr-000910 02:02:09.960 --> 02:02:20.780 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The PIEC being the biggest exhibition center in Southeast Asia and having the cheapest cost, skilled labor, friendly and English-speaking population, asr-000911 02:02:20.780 --> 02:02:26.780 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and cheap booth construction, and cost to produce. asr-000912 02:02:27.200 --> 02:02:37.880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: These events, for MICE events, among countries with big exhibition center, enhances the reputation of our Southeast Asia. asr-000913 02:02:38.880 --> 02:02:57.180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Alam niyo po, we had recently signed with the late Docs Kua a memorandum for the League of Governors to give all the provinces 50 square meters to exhibit their indigenous products. asr-000914 02:02:57.200 --> 02:03:02.200 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And we are signing with the cultural center dahil kulang daw sila ng exhibition spaces. asr-000915 02:03:03.080 --> 02:03:12.200 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And with the PIEC, PICC, another MOA po para po makapag-exhibit ang cultural center. asr-000916 02:03:14.160 --> 02:03:17.480 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mr. Chairman, let me cut you there. asr-000917 02:03:18.040 --> 02:03:25.300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Dito lang po ba nakasentro sa inyong presentation sa PIEC na project, ang inyong presentation this afternoon. asr-000918 02:03:25.300 --> 02:03:26.300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Otherwise, if we will just be... asr-000919 02:03:27.200 --> 02:03:31.740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: We will be centered on spend most of our time explaining PIEC. asr-000920 02:03:32.040 --> 02:03:34.580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ako pa tatanungin nyo, buhay benta po ito. asr-000921 02:03:34.740 --> 02:03:36.000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I mean, mabenta po sa akin. asr-000922 02:03:36.480 --> 02:03:38.440 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kung tatanungin nyo, okay po ito. asr-000923 02:03:38.800 --> 02:03:43.340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: But I have a few questions and of course, our minority leader would also ask questions. asr-000924 02:03:43.360 --> 02:03:44.500 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We will be happy to answer. asr-000925 02:03:45.080 --> 02:03:48.160 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mabilisan lang ito. I hope pa, hindi na po tayo tatagal sa PIEC. asr-000926 02:03:48.640 --> 02:03:49.340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Maganda po yan. asr-000927 02:03:49.460 --> 02:03:52.740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Yung kanina po nag-usap tayo, pinipresent yun sa atin. asr-000928 02:03:53.200 --> 02:03:54.920 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: It's a pride of our country, sir. asr-000929 02:03:55.400 --> 02:03:56.280 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Tanong ko lang po. asr-000930 02:03:57.200 --> 02:04:03.340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Is it expected po ba na self-sustaining itong PIEC o kailangan pa rin natin na annual government subsidy? asr-000931 02:04:03.360 --> 02:04:05.440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Wala na po. Wala na pong government subsidy. asr-000932 02:04:05.440 --> 02:04:14.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: In fact, ang sagot lang po ng national government dito ay yung building lang po. asr-000933 02:04:14.800 --> 02:04:25.100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Yung pang-furnitures, fixtures, yung mga equipment, yung mga ano, will be shouldered by PRA, yung parking lot po. asr-000934 02:04:25.760 --> 02:04:26.800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Not the personnel. asr-000935 02:04:26.800 --> 02:04:35.720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Of course, kailangan po natin mga electricity dyan, water, personnel, pasweldo. asr-000936 02:04:36.100 --> 02:04:38.720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ilan tao po ang kakailanganin nyo dyan? asr-000937 02:04:39.240 --> 02:04:40.980 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Dapat po lahat ito, naka-breakdown. asr-000938 02:04:41.000 --> 02:04:45.160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: On a small scale, all the exhibition centers naman make money. asr-000939 02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:52.160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi talagang in demand po, katulad po nung eskwelahan po ng misis ko po, in Lyceum, asr-000940 02:04:52.160 --> 02:04:56.560 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: they only have 3,000 graduates. asr-000941 02:04:56.800 --> 02:05:01.240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi sila makapag-graduate po ng sabay-sabay. asr-000942 02:05:01.520 --> 02:05:03.780 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At iniimbita nila isa lang po. asr-000943 02:05:04.260 --> 02:05:06.640 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi wala po tayong exhibition center. asr-000944 02:05:07.020 --> 02:05:13.460 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At malaki po ang binabayad ng bawat isa po na makapaupa po. asr-000945 02:05:13.700 --> 02:05:20.280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And you multiply this all over, baka sa Pilipinas lang po, fully jump-pack na po ito. asr-000946 02:05:20.420 --> 02:05:23.700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi ang dami talagang, kulang talaga tayo ng events places. asr-000947 02:05:23.700 --> 02:05:26.380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: As you will know, CSM po. asr-000948 02:05:26.800 --> 02:05:34.440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Yung opisina po nila, kinalahati nila, giniba nila para makapagtayo ng another exhibition center. asr-000949 02:05:34.560 --> 02:05:38.680 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Yan, makikita nyo po. Manggaling dito, papunta sa Moa. asr-000950 02:05:40.180 --> 02:05:45.080 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Giniba po nila yung offices nila para makapagtayo po ng exhibition center. asr-000951 02:05:45.240 --> 02:05:47.100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ganun po kalaki ang demand na exhibition. asr-000952 02:05:47.780 --> 02:05:50.620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At ang pangulo po natin ay hindi magpapahuli. asr-000953 02:05:50.620 --> 02:05:55.620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At nauna po, with this vision, we commend him for... asr-000954 02:05:56.800 --> 02:06:00.800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: for coming up with this project and we are supporting it po. asr-000955 02:06:01.020 --> 02:06:05.500 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Alright, Mr. Chairman. With the indulgence of our minority leader, okay na po sa inyo. asr-000956 02:06:05.580 --> 02:06:11.080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Para sa akin eh. Okay na po itong presentation ng PIEC or you have questions pa about PIEC? asr-000957 02:06:11.100 --> 02:06:12.140 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 20 pages na lang po. asr-000958 02:06:13.220 --> 02:06:14.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Joke. Joke pa, boss. asr-000959 02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:17.720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Go ahead po. Go ahead po, minority leader. asr-000960 02:06:18.120 --> 02:06:19.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. asr-000961 02:06:19.340 --> 02:06:23.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Actually, yung questions ko ay para kay GM at assistant GM. asr-000962 02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:24.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But on this lang, sir. asr-000963 02:06:25.680 --> 02:06:26.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Um... asr-000964 02:06:26.480 --> 02:06:33.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: First, eto, public service din. Parang radio program ni Senator Tulfo. May nagpapatanong. asr-000965 02:06:33.980 --> 02:06:41.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung Las Piñas wetland park land title, kailan daw po itatransfer ng PRA to DENR? asr-000966 02:06:43.360 --> 02:06:44.740 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: See, there was a bill. asr-000967 02:06:45.660 --> 02:06:48.180 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: There was a bill to have it transferred. asr-000968 02:06:48.180 --> 02:06:52.660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And I think it was passed by Congress and the Senate. asr-000969 02:06:53.340 --> 02:06:55.800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: But the President po vetoed the bill. asr-000970 02:06:56.480 --> 02:06:58.200 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At hindi na po itatransfer. asr-000971 02:06:58.800 --> 02:07:01.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, it will be kept by PRA? asr-000972 02:07:01.980 --> 02:07:02.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. asr-000973 02:07:02.580 --> 02:07:05.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige. So, malamang yung follow-up question neto sa plenary na, Mr. Chair. asr-000974 02:07:06.280 --> 02:07:07.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At least natanong ko lang. asr-000975 02:07:07.660 --> 02:07:08.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Second, Chair. asr-000976 02:07:09.860 --> 02:07:11.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir Chairman, so tama po ba ako? asr-000977 02:07:11.880 --> 02:07:18.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, yung iniingin yung total na 27 billion will be doon sa development netong PIEC? asr-000978 02:07:18.480 --> 02:07:19.660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: The building lang po. asr-000979 02:07:19.980 --> 02:07:25.240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: At this budget, dumaan lang sa amin as a subsidy. asr-000980 02:07:25.240 --> 02:07:26.540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi kami ang may-ari. asr-000981 02:07:27.260 --> 02:07:29.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kayo may-ari nung lupa? asr-000982 02:07:29.720 --> 02:07:31.660 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi lang ng lupa. Pati ho nung project. asr-000983 02:07:31.940 --> 02:07:36.000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi nung mga kami ang magpupuno dahil may konti nga kaming cash. asr-000984 02:07:36.060 --> 02:07:37.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, that's what I wanted to clarify. asr-000985 02:07:37.540 --> 02:07:41.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung lupa na na-reclaim is yung share nyo sa ibang projects. asr-000986 02:07:41.800 --> 02:07:47.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, rather than flipping it or selling it or bidding it out, asr-000987 02:07:48.380 --> 02:07:53.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you want to see if, yun nga, given such a ambitious good project, asr-000988 02:07:54.360 --> 02:07:55.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can... asr-000989 02:07:55.240 --> 02:07:56.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can do it this way. asr-000990 02:07:57.160 --> 02:07:59.240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: With your indulgence, not only that, asr-000991 02:08:00.760 --> 02:08:03.540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: biglahong tumaas ang presyo po ng lupa namin. asr-000992 02:08:03.700 --> 02:08:06.340 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi this is only 80,000 square. asr-000993 02:08:06.460 --> 02:08:07.620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We still have 3 million. asr-000994 02:08:08.260 --> 02:08:09.460 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Nung nilagay namin ito... asr-000995 02:08:09.460 --> 02:08:10.400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: And even the other developments. asr-000996 02:08:11.040 --> 02:08:13.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi kahit sabihin mong competitor sila, asr-000997 02:08:13.440 --> 02:08:15.260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: pag ganyang kaganda yung katabi, asr-000998 02:08:15.820 --> 02:08:16.400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: tumataas. asr-000999 02:08:16.520 --> 02:08:20.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Diba? Like when ginawa yung Santa Rosa or ginawa BGC, asr-001000 02:08:20.500 --> 02:08:21.420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: ginawa Rockwell, asr-001001 02:08:22.020 --> 02:08:24.440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: automatically tumataas din yung mga katabi. asr-001002 02:08:24.440 --> 02:08:25.060 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 64. asr-001003 02:08:25.060 --> 02:08:28.400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 24,000 nga po, two years ago, ang appraisal sa amin. asr-001004 02:08:29.000 --> 02:08:31.540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ngayon po, ang appraisal, 300,000 na po. asr-001005 02:08:31.640 --> 02:08:32.520 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Marami na pong bumili. asr-001006 02:08:32.920 --> 02:08:37.080 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: 24 hectares na po ang nabili after we have a... asr-001007 02:08:37.080 --> 02:08:38.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, last two questions. asr-001008 02:08:38.680 --> 02:08:39.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May... asr-001009 02:08:39.360 --> 02:08:41.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Just to support your question kanina, asr-001010 02:08:43.080 --> 02:08:45.100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Senator Caetano. asr-001011 02:08:45.680 --> 02:08:47.900 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Yung sinasabing nyo po na 27 billion, asr-001012 02:08:48.180 --> 02:08:50.120 Senator Erwin Tulfo: for your information, minority leader, asr-001013 02:08:50.860 --> 02:08:53.300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: actually, 6 billion po ang inilabas asr-001014 02:08:53.300 --> 02:08:54.780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: sa unprogrammed appropriations po ng 2024 GAA, asr-001015 02:08:54.780 --> 02:08:57.380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: some appropriations po ng 2024, ga-a. asr-001016 02:08:57.920 --> 02:09:00.100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Tapos, nagdagdaga ng 6 billion naman, asr-001017 02:09:00.520 --> 02:09:03.340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: contingency fund ng 2026, ga-a. asr-001018 02:09:03.820 --> 02:09:04.800 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, total na po, asr-001019 02:09:04.920 --> 02:09:07.740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: tapos sumingi po kayo nga ng 5 billion for 2027. asr-001020 02:09:08.180 --> 02:09:10.100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, that will be 17 billion. asr-001021 02:09:10.360 --> 02:09:12.020 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ang estimate po, 27. asr-001022 02:09:12.280 --> 02:09:14.240 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, kulang pa po ng 10 billion. asr-001023 02:09:14.320 --> 02:09:15.180 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Is that what you're saying? asr-001024 02:09:15.540 --> 02:09:17.760 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Nasaan na po tayo ngayon sa construction? asr-001025 02:09:18.060 --> 02:09:18.700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ilang percent? asr-001026 02:09:18.820 --> 02:09:20.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Madagdag-dagdagan ko lang po yung katabi. asr-001027 02:09:20.540 --> 02:09:20.780 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: We are... asr-001028 02:09:21.360 --> 02:09:22.100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Alam nyo naman po, asr-001029 02:09:22.200 --> 02:09:23.800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: construction is an S-curve. asr-001030 02:09:23.900 --> 02:09:24.540 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Mabagal po. asr-001031 02:09:24.780 --> 02:09:25.700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang akyat niyan, asr-001032 02:09:26.340 --> 02:09:28.480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: nasa 11% po tayo. asr-001033 02:09:28.960 --> 02:09:30.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: But the DPWH, asr-001034 02:09:30.800 --> 02:09:33.100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: we have a program of expenditures asr-001035 02:09:33.100 --> 02:09:35.280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: signed by the DPWH. asr-001036 02:09:35.820 --> 02:09:37.260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hiningan po namin sila. asr-001037 02:09:38.240 --> 02:09:41.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Sila po ang nagsabi nitong pangangailangan na to. asr-001038 02:09:41.800 --> 02:09:43.960 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Sila ang nagprogram sa amin asr-001039 02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:46.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: kasi kami, daanan lang ng pera. asr-001040 02:09:47.280 --> 02:09:48.740 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi ko malaman, sila nag-bid. asr-001041 02:09:48.760 --> 02:09:50.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think what the chairman means is, asr-001042 02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:52.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so how much do you need for 2027? asr-001043 02:09:53.360 --> 02:09:54.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Five lang po. asr-001044 02:09:54.120 --> 02:09:54.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Five. asr-001045 02:09:54.780 --> 02:09:56.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And then 2028, five ulit. asr-001046 02:09:57.540 --> 02:09:58.360 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ten po. asr-001047 02:09:58.580 --> 02:10:04.340 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Pero according to DBM and to Secretary of Public Works, asr-001048 02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:06.420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and upon my request, asr-001049 02:10:06.880 --> 02:10:08.560 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: ililipat na ho namin sa kanila asr-001050 02:10:08.560 --> 02:10:09.960 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: kasi tumatagal yung ikot. asr-001051 02:10:10.060 --> 02:10:11.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Although three days lang sa amin, asr-001052 02:10:11.440 --> 02:10:13.000 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: ayaw namin hawakan ho yung pera. asr-001053 02:10:13.460 --> 02:10:17.460 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Kasi gusto namin talaga maging successful ang uto asr-001054 02:10:17.460 --> 02:10:19.240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: kasi napakaganda po sa bayan ito. asr-001055 02:10:19.260 --> 02:10:20.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What's the completion date nito, Mr. Chairman? asr-001056 02:10:21.460 --> 02:10:23.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When are we looking at? asr-001057 02:10:23.660 --> 02:10:24.220 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: April. asr-001058 02:10:24.780 --> 02:10:25.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: April 2028. asr-001059 02:10:26.360 --> 02:10:29.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: So we have already several events lined up asr-001060 02:10:29.120 --> 02:10:32.400 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: for April and May 2028. asr-001061 02:10:32.700 --> 02:10:33.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, on that point, asr-001062 02:10:34.440 --> 02:10:36.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi madali maghanap ng pera. asr-001063 02:10:36.480 --> 02:10:37.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But on that point, asr-001064 02:10:38.000 --> 02:10:40.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung hinahabol ng April 2028, asr-001065 02:10:40.600 --> 02:10:43.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ba too late kung yung 10B 2028 pa ibibigay? asr-001066 02:10:44.520 --> 02:10:47.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi given certain delays and everything, asr-001067 02:10:47.700 --> 02:10:49.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: katulad ngayon, it's September. asr-001068 02:10:49.540 --> 02:10:51.900 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Malaki po dito retention po, sir. asr-001069 02:10:52.780 --> 02:10:54.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: They will have retention asr-001070 02:10:54.120 --> 02:10:57.020 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: and I think the construction's final billing asr-001071 02:10:57.020 --> 02:10:58.500 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: will not be released asr-001072 02:10:58.500 --> 02:11:01.060 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: until they have fully completed. asr-001073 02:11:01.060 --> 02:11:03.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So in your estimation, walang delay asr-001074 02:11:03.800 --> 02:11:06.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta't mabigay yung 5B in 2027? asr-001075 02:11:07.140 --> 02:11:08.700 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. At kung kakapusin man, asr-001076 02:11:09.300 --> 02:11:11.100 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: ay mangungutang po kami, asr-001077 02:11:11.240 --> 02:11:14.060 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: babayaran na lang po nung makukuha ang budget sa 2028. asr-001078 02:11:14.800 --> 02:11:16.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So the next question I was going to ask is, asr-001079 02:11:17.420 --> 02:11:19.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in general, I know there are a lot of components, asr-001080 02:11:19.560 --> 02:11:20.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but are you saying, asr-001081 02:11:20.960 --> 02:11:22.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and of course, kayo naman ang Philippine Reclamation, asr-001082 02:11:24.120 --> 02:11:25.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: authority, asr-001083 02:11:26.280 --> 02:11:28.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that okay naman ang reclamation, asr-001084 02:11:28.420 --> 02:11:30.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: basta't number one, it's for public purpose, asr-001085 02:11:31.380 --> 02:11:32.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: two, it's sustainable, asr-001086 02:11:32.900 --> 02:11:34.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and it follows with the environment? asr-001087 02:11:34.460 --> 02:11:34.800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Yes, sir. asr-001088 02:11:34.900 --> 02:11:35.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi lang sa pasa yan? asr-001089 02:11:36.060 --> 02:11:36.420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi po. asr-001090 02:11:36.700 --> 02:11:39.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm sure, kahit nasaan ka, private sector, PRA, asr-001091 02:11:39.640 --> 02:11:41.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mal na mal mo ang siyudad mo ng Manila. asr-001092 02:11:41.680 --> 02:11:41.940 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. asr-001093 02:11:42.160 --> 02:11:43.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So basta't public, sustainable? asr-001094 02:11:44.140 --> 02:11:44.480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. asr-001095 02:11:44.660 --> 02:11:45.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kahit sa tagig? asr-001096 02:11:45.480 --> 02:11:45.820 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Opo. asr-001097 02:11:46.160 --> 02:11:47.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, very good. asr-001098 02:11:47.500 --> 02:11:49.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So after that, Mr. President, asr-001099 02:11:49.000 --> 02:11:51.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have some questions for the GM. asr-001100 02:11:51.460 --> 02:11:52.000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Go ahead. asr-001101 02:11:52.640 --> 02:11:53.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: With your permission, Chairman. asr-001102 02:11:54.120 --> 02:11:55.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mamaya na ako sa second round. asr-001103 02:11:55.620 --> 02:11:57.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The reason why I want to ask the Chairman, asr-001104 02:11:57.620 --> 02:12:02.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: just because sila yung pumirman ng mga letters and everything. asr-001105 02:12:03.420 --> 02:12:05.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So magandang hapon sa PRA family. asr-001106 02:12:06.480 --> 02:12:08.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Congressman Crisologo, nice to see you again. asr-001107 02:12:10.360 --> 02:12:13.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, takidefine lang ang reclamation. asr-001108 02:12:15.900 --> 02:12:16.800 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Your Honor, asr-001109 02:12:16.800 --> 02:12:21.280 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: sa aking pagkaintindi po sa reclamation ay isa pong pamamaraan na asr-001110 02:12:21.280 --> 02:12:24.080 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: tinatambakan po yung tubig at makikita, asr-001111 02:12:24.120 --> 02:12:29.160 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: magkikreate po tayo ng lupa para ito ay gamitin for a certain postponement. asr-001112 02:12:29.920 --> 02:12:30.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001113 02:12:30.480 --> 02:12:32.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't argue with that, Tinagalog mo, asr-001114 02:12:32.940 --> 02:12:38.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but actually sa NEDA-PRA Joint Order No. 01-2015, asr-001115 02:12:38.600 --> 02:12:39.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: January 12, 2015, asr-001116 02:12:40.060 --> 02:12:43.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: PRA's EO No. 74, Series 2019, asr-001117 02:12:43.980 --> 02:12:46.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the deliberate process of converting foreshore land, asr-001118 02:12:46.520 --> 02:12:48.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: submerged areas of bodies of water, asr-001119 02:12:48.940 --> 02:12:52.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: into land by filling or other means using dredge fill asr-001120 02:12:52.440 --> 02:12:53.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and other suitable materials, asr-001121 02:12:53.720 --> 02:12:55.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for specific purposes. asr-001122 02:12:55.480 --> 02:12:56.380 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Correct. asr-001123 02:12:56.380 --> 02:12:56.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001124 02:12:58.380 --> 02:13:00.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Next question po. asr-001125 02:13:05.120 --> 02:13:10.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar with the West of Manggahan flood control project? asr-001126 02:13:11.360 --> 02:13:11.860 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: What's it? asr-001127 02:13:14.280 --> 02:13:15.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Flood control project. asr-001128 02:13:15.400 --> 02:13:15.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001129 02:13:15.900 --> 02:13:18.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So you are not familiar with that. asr-001130 02:13:18.780 --> 02:13:23.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That is a March 1997 project. asr-001131 02:13:23.020 --> 02:13:23.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. That is a March 1997 project. asr-001132 02:13:23.560 --> 02:13:29.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That is a 9.411 billion yen ODA project. asr-001133 02:13:29.620 --> 02:13:37.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Is the PRA familiar with the Taguig C6 road dike project? asr-001134 02:13:39.240 --> 02:13:39.860 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Your Honor, asr-001135 02:13:40.580 --> 02:13:43.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: pangatloon taong po ko pa ito kasi hindi ko pa po alam kung asr-001136 02:13:43.980 --> 02:13:48.360 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: nung pumasok ako dito ay meron na po yan mga control project. asr-001137 02:13:48.360 --> 02:13:48.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001138 02:13:48.560 --> 02:13:53.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So are you familiar of the development of the Taguig C6, asr-001139 02:13:53.560 --> 02:13:56.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 26 road dike and West of Manggahan project asr-001140 02:13:56.460 --> 02:13:59.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: between 2007 to 2009? asr-001141 02:13:59.620 --> 02:14:00.720 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Pasit siya na po, Your Honor. asr-001142 02:14:00.720 --> 02:14:01.620 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi po ako familiar. asr-001143 02:14:01.620 --> 02:14:04.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar of the opening of the roads asr-001144 02:14:04.860 --> 02:14:09.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the development of the retaining channels asr-001145 02:14:09.940 --> 02:14:15.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and the pumping stations during Pinoy's time from 2010 to 2016? asr-001146 02:14:15.880 --> 02:14:17.500 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi po, Your Honor. asr-001147 02:14:17.500 --> 02:14:21.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar that Secretary Vince Dizon, asr-001148 02:14:21.660 --> 02:14:23.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary Mark Vigilar, asr-001149 02:14:23.560 --> 02:14:29.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary Diokno visited and went in one of the landing sites asr-001150 02:14:29.360 --> 02:14:33.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: in that project and said napakaganda nito doblehin natin asr-001151 02:14:33.900 --> 02:14:37.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: from two lanes gawin natin four lanes in 2018? asr-001152 02:14:37.220 --> 02:14:44.420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Your Honor, kung yun po ang sinasabi po ng ating Department of Public Works and Highways, asr-001153 02:14:44.420 --> 02:14:47.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: sumasangayon po ang PRA sa mga development. asr-001154 02:14:47.120 --> 02:14:47.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001155 02:14:47.620 --> 02:14:53.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So are you familiar that in the year 2020 kasama si Congressman Crisolo, asr-001156 02:14:53.560 --> 02:14:59.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there was a 14 billion allotment? asr-001163 02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:17.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Para gumawa ng right-of-way or flyover from the Laguna Lake going to a certain highway of the San Miguel Corp. asr-001164 02:15:17.800 --> 02:15:28.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That was unacceptable to Taguigenos because more than 10,000 houses would have been demolished and there are more than 1,000 ancestors. asr-001165 02:15:28.680 --> 02:15:29.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Are you familiar with that? asr-001166 02:15:30.460 --> 02:15:33.440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Your Honor, again, hindi po ako familiar. asr-001167 02:15:34.000 --> 02:15:36.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay sa akin kung hindi ka familiar doon. asr-001168 02:15:36.760 --> 02:15:42.260 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Meron po kaming kasama dito po si Attorney Literal na siya pong nauna sa amin dito sa kanyang... asr-001169 02:15:42.260 --> 02:15:45.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, I will transfer to him. Please feel free to interject anytime. asr-001170 02:15:45.700 --> 02:15:53.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But siguro ang unang lesson sa inyo, huwag kayong pipirma ng sulat or magsasalita kung hindi ka familiar. asr-001171 02:15:54.840 --> 02:15:59.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? Di sana ang sumulat at ang magsalita ay yung siya. asr-001172 02:15:59.760 --> 02:15:59.980 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Noted. asr-001173 02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:06.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Atty. Joseph Literal, sir, are you familiar with the West of Manggahan project? asr-001174 02:16:08.400 --> 02:16:12.500 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, yung sa flood? asr-001175 02:16:13.380 --> 02:16:25.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, it's a ODAF project sealed by Secretary Vigilar and then implemented during GMA's time na. asr-001176 02:16:25.580 --> 02:16:27.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary Datumanong, are you familiar? asr-001177 02:16:28.060 --> 02:16:29.660 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir, pero hindi po. asr-001178 02:16:30.000 --> 02:16:30.780 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: As PRA po. asr-001179 02:16:30.840 --> 02:16:31.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001180 02:16:31.100 --> 02:16:31.780 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: But I'm familiar. asr-001181 02:16:31.860 --> 02:16:32.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're familiar. asr-001182 02:16:32.720 --> 02:16:32.940 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Opo. asr-001183 02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:35.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, but sir, kayo galing kayo DNR, di ba? asr-001184 02:16:36.660 --> 02:16:37.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sino pong galing DNR? asr-001185 02:16:39.140 --> 02:16:39.740 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Your Honor. asr-001186 02:16:40.380 --> 02:16:41.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kailan ka nag-NCR, sir? asr-001187 02:16:42.940 --> 02:16:46.800 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: DNR po, 1986 po. asr-001188 02:16:47.180 --> 02:16:47.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, matagal ka na. asr-001189 02:16:47.960 --> 02:16:50.440 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Pero sa Environmental Management Bureau po ako natin. asr-001190 02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:50.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, okay. asr-001191 02:16:52.080 --> 02:16:59.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sir, are you familiar that there were three possible alignments of the Manggahan floodway? asr-001192 02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:05.000 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Sir, I'm just familiar with what is existing. asr-001193 02:17:05.000 --> 02:17:15.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, the three alignments was inland, tapos yung sa tubig, tapos doon sa yung present alignment ngayon. asr-001194 02:17:15.000 --> 02:17:18.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, are you familiar with the present alignment ngayon? asr-001195 02:17:18.000 --> 02:17:21.000 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: The C6, Your Honor? asr-001196 02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:22.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. asr-001197 02:17:22.000 --> 02:17:26.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ilan hektarya ng existing land, hindi for land. asr-001198 02:17:26.000 --> 02:17:30.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Existing land is outside the dike. asr-001199 02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:35.000 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Hindi pa ako familiar sa exacto. asr-001200 02:17:35.000 --> 02:17:45.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero ang dami nang lumalabas sa news na iniimbestigahan niyo, 90 hectares, 170 hectares, hindi niyo man lang kinokorek ang media. asr-001201 02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:48.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How many hectares is outside the dike? asr-001202 02:17:48.000 --> 02:17:55.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, actually, we have used the GIS. asr-001203 02:17:55.000 --> 02:17:58.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Since when yung GIS? asr-001204 02:17:58.000 --> 02:17:59.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ginamit niyo yung ano, di ba? asr-001205 02:17:59.000 --> 02:18:00.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001206 02:18:00.000 --> 02:18:02.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: From when? asr-001207 02:18:02.000 --> 02:18:03.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we're doing... asr-001208 02:18:03.000 --> 02:18:04.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, what date? asr-001209 02:18:04.000 --> 02:18:09.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Since early 2000 until present. asr-001210 02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:15.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Ano ang sinabi sa akin ni Secretary Vigilar nung 1999? Do you know? asr-001211 02:18:15.000 --> 02:18:17.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi. Not aware. asr-001212 02:18:17.000 --> 02:18:28.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, he told me, hindi ko muna sasabihin sa iyo kung ilan daan hektarya, na pag ginawa yung dike as is, mag-eerode yung lupa. Kasi nasa labas siya ng dike. asr-001213 02:18:28.000 --> 02:18:44.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, will your aerial show the historical land-ownings of LLDA or will it only give you a partial picture? asr-001214 02:18:44.000 --> 02:18:56.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, actually, the GIS and the satellite viewing using the backtracking on the years, asr-001215 02:18:56.000 --> 02:19:07.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: it would only show not what is shore land or other areas but only what has been submerged before and what is now covered. asr-001216 02:19:07.000 --> 02:19:08.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, noong 2000. asr-001217 02:19:08.000 --> 02:19:09.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001218 02:19:09.000 --> 02:19:25.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O ano bang taon ang batas ng LLDA? 1960s, 1970s? O gano kalalim ang lake ng 1960s? Alam mo? O more or less 30 feet, more or less 10 meters. Gano kalalim ang Laguna Lake ngayon? asr-001219 02:19:25.000 --> 02:19:27.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, about 3 or 4 meters. asr-001220 02:19:27.000 --> 02:19:31.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Gano kadaming puno na naputol sa Laguna at saka sa Luizal? asr-001221 02:19:31.000 --> 02:19:34.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Honestly, wala po. asr-001222 02:19:34.000 --> 02:19:36.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Gano karami na nag-eerode? asr-001223 02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:42.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, tanungin ko sa inyo ngayon, are you familiar with torrents, land titling? asr-001224 02:19:42.000 --> 02:19:43.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001225 02:19:43.000 --> 02:19:51.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kung nagkaroon ng torrents, meron siyang land title 30 years ago, walang nag-dispute, walang problema. asr-001226 02:19:51.000 --> 02:19:54.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dahil nagka dike, tumaas yung torrents. asr-001227 02:19:54.000 --> 02:20:00.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tumaas yung tubig, nakuha yung part ng tubig. Is that now not a titled land anymore? asr-001228 02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:02.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, it's still a titled land. asr-001229 02:20:02.000 --> 02:20:04.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But sa media, anong pinapalabas? asr-001230 02:20:08.000 --> 02:20:15.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you make those qualifications sa media na we're still looking, na marami kaming hindi alam dyan? asr-001231 02:20:15.000 --> 02:20:22.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we just gave an estimate on the area which were previously underwater, asr-001232 02:20:22.000 --> 02:20:28.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: which are now dry land, Mr. Chair. asr-001233 02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:34.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Vis-a-vis what? You don't even know how many dry land was there historically. asr-001234 02:20:34.000 --> 02:20:43.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nandun sa papeles ng JICA, sinubmit sa JICA, 27 years ago, 1,300 hectares. asr-001235 02:20:43.000 --> 02:20:49.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There is 1,300 hectares of land outside the lake. asr-001236 02:20:49.000 --> 02:20:55.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I do not know how much is titled or not because hindi naman ako LRA. asr-001237 02:20:55.000 --> 02:20:57.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? O, let me continue. asr-001238 02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:08.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, do you agree with the definition of the GM dun sa reclamation? asr-001239 02:21:08.000 --> 02:21:09.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Your Honor. asr-001240 02:21:09.000 --> 02:21:11.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Yung binasa ko, tama? asr-001241 02:21:11.000 --> 02:21:14.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: That's under our policy, Your Honor. asr-001242 02:21:14.000 --> 02:21:19.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, are you familiar with the 2007 construction of the C6? asr-001243 02:21:19.000 --> 02:21:20.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa road dike? asr-001244 02:21:20.000 --> 02:21:21.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Your Honor. asr-001245 02:21:21.000 --> 02:21:28.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Are you, 2013, panahon ni Pinoy, are you familiar with the development there? asr-001246 02:21:28.000 --> 02:21:35.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: With the project, the lakeshore project which did not push through, yes, Sir, Your Honor. asr-001247 02:21:35.000 --> 02:21:40.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba pa yun? 2015 yun. Yun yung C6 na 8 lanes, diba? asr-001248 02:21:40.000 --> 02:21:41.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001249 02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:43.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA yun? asr-001250 02:21:45.000 --> 02:21:47.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Binid yun, diba? Hindi lang natuloy. asr-001251 02:21:47.000 --> 02:21:48.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Po. asr-001252 02:21:48.000 --> 02:21:50.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA? asr-001253 02:21:50.000 --> 02:21:51.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi, Po. asr-001254 02:21:51.000 --> 02:21:55.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How about yung Manggahan-Cladway? Kumuha ba ng permit sa PRA yun? asr-001255 02:21:55.000 --> 02:21:56.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi rin, Po. asr-001256 02:21:56.000 --> 02:21:58.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero do you classify that as a reclamation? asr-001257 02:21:58.000 --> 02:22:01.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. Yes, Sir. asr-001258 02:22:01.000 --> 02:22:02.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero hindi kumuha ng permit sa inyo? asr-001259 02:22:02.000 --> 02:22:03.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Po. asr-001260 02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:07.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, sa yung panahon ni Pinoy na hindi rin kumuha? asr-001261 02:22:07.000 --> 02:22:08.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi, Po. asr-001262 02:22:08.000 --> 02:22:16.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Sa House of Representatives, tinanong sa inyo whether or not in other parts of the Laguna Lake, Rizal, Laguna, asr-001263 02:22:16.000 --> 02:22:19.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung kumuha ng permit sa inyo sa reclamation, meron ba? asr-001264 02:22:19.000 --> 02:22:20.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Wala, Po. asr-001265 02:22:20.000 --> 02:22:22.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala? As of now, wala? asr-001266 02:22:22.000 --> 02:22:23.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Wala, Po. asr-001267 02:22:23.000 --> 02:22:35.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, pero pag meron reclamation doon, na nakita niyo ngayon, kahit siya ay sa gobyerno, you will ask the DPWH to stop it? asr-001268 02:22:35.000 --> 02:22:43.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, that's part of our complete stop work, Your Honor. Hingi po kami ng records and then we'll have them comply. asr-001269 02:22:43.000 --> 02:22:45.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, did you ask the DPWH for the records for the Tagalog? asr-001270 02:22:45.000 --> 02:22:48.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Your Honor. asr-001271 02:22:48.000 --> 02:22:52.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And then, kailan niyo sinabing cease and desist? asr-001272 02:22:52.000 --> 02:23:03.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Even before that, Sir, meron na po kaming show cause on the Laguna Lakeshore Road Network. asr-001273 02:23:03.000 --> 02:23:05.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kanino niyo in-issue, Sir, ang show cause? asr-001274 02:23:05.000 --> 02:23:07.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sa DPWH, Po. asr-001275 02:23:07.000 --> 02:23:09.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you have a copy? asr-001276 02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:12.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: We have a letter since 2024. asr-001277 02:23:12.000 --> 02:23:13.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2020? asr-001278 02:23:13.000 --> 02:23:14.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Four. asr-001279 02:23:14.000 --> 02:23:15.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Two? asr-001280 02:23:15.000 --> 02:23:16.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2024? asr-001281 02:23:16.000 --> 02:23:17.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001282 02:23:17.000 --> 02:23:18.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kay Secretary Bonoan pa lang? asr-001283 02:23:18.000 --> 02:23:19.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001284 02:23:19.000 --> 02:23:25.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, pinatigil niyo rin ba yung Laguna Lake Road Network? asr-001285 02:23:25.000 --> 02:23:40.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, we asked for the details and whether there is a reclamation and then they answered that it's just a road network and they are making sure through PRA that there would be no reclamation. asr-001286 02:23:40.000 --> 02:23:44.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Very good. Can I see the picture of the LLRN? asr-001287 02:23:45.000 --> 02:23:47.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Kaming po dito. asr-001288 02:23:47.000 --> 02:24:11.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, take note, Mr. Chairman, Mr. GM. Sabi ng Deputy GM niyo, kapag katagig, kailangan may complete staff work. Kailangan kunin lahat. Pero pag ibang part ng Laguna Lake, okay lang yung sabi-sabi ng DPWH. Hindi niya hiningi yung papers eh. Sinabi niya, okay lang sa inyo na tanungin lang sila. asr-001289 02:24:11.000 --> 02:24:14.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At ang sinabi daw, there is no reclamation. asr-001290 02:24:14.000 --> 02:24:35.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano tawag mo sa kulay pula at kulay blue na yun? Which is about anywhere between 100 to 100 meters from the shoreline to 1 kilometer from the shoreline. Ano tawag mo dyan? 8 lanes yan sa tubig gagawin. Hindi reclamation yan? asr-001291 02:24:35.000 --> 02:24:38.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, Your Honor… asr-001292 02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:40.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasa website yan ng LLDA. asr-001293 02:24:40.000 --> 02:24:41.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001294 02:24:41.000 --> 02:24:42.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasa website yan ng DPWH. asr-001295 02:24:42.000 --> 02:24:43.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001296 02:24:43.000 --> 02:24:45.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hindi reclamation yan? asr-001297 02:24:45.000 --> 02:24:46.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Reclamation. asr-001298 02:24:46.000 --> 02:24:48.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa definition niyo, reclamation yan, di ba? asr-001299 02:24:48.000 --> 02:24:49.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001300 02:24:49.000 --> 02:24:50.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sa iyo hindi reclamation yan? asr-001301 02:24:50.000 --> 02:24:51.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Reclamation, Sir. asr-001302 02:24:51.000 --> 02:24:53.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bakit hindi niyo in-issue ng cease of business? asr-001303 02:24:53.000 --> 02:24:54.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, there is… asr-001304 02:24:54.000 --> 02:24:55.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi hindi tagig yan? asr-001305 02:24:55.000 --> 02:24:56.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Ano, Sir? asr-001306 02:24:56.000 --> 02:25:03.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi mo kanina eh, kapag meron kayong nakita, ipapa-full staff work niyo. Sabi niyo, ang tagig, pinul staff work niyo. asr-001307 02:25:03.000 --> 02:25:04.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001308 02:25:04.000 --> 02:25:12.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung tinanong ko sa iyo, paano naman yung Laguna Lake Road Network, tinanong mo lang sa DPWH. At sinagot na walang reclamation. Ano tawag mo? asr-001309 02:25:12.000 --> 02:25:13.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, there is… asr-001310 02:25:13.000 --> 02:25:19.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano tawag mo diyan, Sir? Sagutin mo nalang tanong ko, please. Ano tawag mo diyan? Hindi ba reclamation yan? asr-001311 02:25:19.000 --> 02:25:20.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001312 02:25:20.000 --> 02:25:22.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, under your definition, reclamation yan? asr-001313 02:25:22.000 --> 02:25:23.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001314 02:25:23.000 --> 02:25:24.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, ba't hindi niyo isis and desis? asr-001315 02:25:24.000 --> 02:25:29.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, Sir, they have committed to realign, redesign the project… asr-001316 02:25:29.000 --> 02:25:31.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They're not. They're building it already. asr-001317 02:25:31.000 --> 02:25:32.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001318 02:25:32.000 --> 02:25:33.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, they're building it already. asr-001319 02:25:33.000 --> 02:25:34.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, yes, Sir. asr-001320 02:25:34.000 --> 02:25:38.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How many times bigger yan, yung pinag-uusapan natin sa tagig? asr-001321 02:25:38.000 --> 02:25:41.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, they would be complying with our requirements. asr-001322 02:25:41.000 --> 02:25:42.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001323 02:25:42.000 --> 02:25:48.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How will they comply with your requirements? While they're doing it now, they're building. asr-001324 02:25:48.000 --> 02:25:49.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001325 02:25:49.000 --> 02:25:53.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ba requirement niyo bago mag-reclaim, kailangan kompleto pati sa checklist? asr-001326 02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:56.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: That's for regular reclamation, Your Honor. asr-001327 02:25:56.000 --> 02:25:58.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, ano ba itong tawag sakali? asr-001328 02:25:58.000 --> 02:26:09.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: But there are instances wherein this had been approved by the government, but because they did not go through the PRA process, they would have a post facto compliance. asr-001329 02:26:09.000 --> 02:26:11.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, no, Sir. Huwag mo akong bulahin. asr-001330 02:26:11.000 --> 02:26:15.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Huwag mo akong bulahin. Yung post niyo, binasa ko yung rules niyo. asr-001331 02:26:15.000 --> 02:26:16.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001332 02:26:16.000 --> 02:26:28.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang sinasabi dito, kapag ka ang national government or local government ay nag-reclaim at unauthorized, pwede silang mag-apply na mapunta sa kanila. Hindi ibig sabihin na pag wala silang permit, pwede lang ituloy-tuloy. asr-001333 02:26:28.000 --> 02:26:38.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, you have to decide now. Do you have jurisdiction over LLDA or not? If you have, then you have to stop all of the illegal reclamation. asr-001334 02:26:38.000 --> 02:26:40.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ongoing ngayon yung DPWH project. asr-001335 02:26:40.000 --> 02:26:54.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na damuhala ang laki compared sa tagig. Na hindi nag-submit sa inyo ng feasibility study. Na hindi nag-submit sa inyo ng environmental study. So, you will ignore that? Bakit? asr-001336 02:26:54.000 --> 02:26:55.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, Sir. asr-001337 02:26:55.000 --> 02:26:58.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, you're ignoring it now. You're not asking them to stop it. asr-001338 02:26:58.000 --> 02:27:00.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we are now coordinating. asr-001339 02:27:00.000 --> 02:27:05.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, no, no. You're not coordinating. You do not have a letter to cease and desist. You do not have a letter to show cause. asr-001340 02:27:05.000 --> 02:27:08.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we have a letter with the DPWH. asr-001341 02:27:08.000 --> 02:27:09.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Telling them to stop it. asr-001342 02:27:09.000 --> 02:27:10.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Telling them to stop it. asr-001343 02:27:10.000 --> 02:27:20.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: And then they also filed, Sir, the information about the LLRN, Your Honor. It's part of our CSW at present. asr-001344 02:27:20.000 --> 02:27:30.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Sundan ko, Honorable Board, sundan ko logic ng inyong deputy. So, kung yan ang gawin ng tagig, wala na tayong problema? asr-001345 02:27:30.000 --> 02:27:32.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, yes, Sir. asr-001346 02:27:32.000 --> 02:27:35.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, pag sinubmit nila yung information, tapos pinakita nila ng gobyerno. asr-001347 02:27:35.000 --> 02:27:37.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we'll go through the process, Your Honor. asr-001348 02:27:37.000 --> 02:27:42.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Of the regularization of the unauthorized projects. asr-001349 02:27:42.000 --> 02:27:50.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, I'll ask you. Hindi sinasubmit sa inyo ng DPWH kasi sa Friday nandito sila. Sino proponent ng LLRN? asr-001350 02:27:50.000 --> 02:27:53.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, it's Laguna Lake Development Authority and DPWH. asr-001351 02:27:53.000 --> 02:27:55.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, no. No, it's DPWH. asr-001352 02:27:55.000 --> 02:27:56.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001353 02:27:56.000 --> 02:28:00.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. O, sino ang proponent ng mga sinisist and desist nyo sa tagig? asr-001354 02:28:00.000 --> 02:28:01.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: DPWH also, Your Honor. asr-001355 02:28:01.000 --> 02:28:02.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, sila din eh. asr-001356 02:28:02.000 --> 02:28:03.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Kaya po. asr-001357 02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:05.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, so you're, no. I want to get information from you now. asr-001358 02:28:05.000 --> 02:28:06.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that I can confirm. asr-001359 02:28:06.000 --> 02:28:08.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So that I can confront them on Friday. asr-001360 02:28:08.000 --> 02:28:12.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, you're telling me now sa LLRN. asr-001361 02:28:12.000 --> 02:28:13.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sila po. asr-001362 02:28:13.000 --> 02:28:16.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nagko-coordinate sila. Pero sa tagig projects hindi sila nagko-coordinate. asr-001363 02:28:16.000 --> 02:28:17.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, nagko-coordinate din po sila. asr-001364 02:28:17.000 --> 02:28:20.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, eh bakit mo sinisist and desist yung isa? Nagko-coordinate na pala eh. asr-001365 02:28:20.000 --> 02:28:24.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, that's part of the cease and desist order. asr-001366 02:28:24.000 --> 02:28:25.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, I'm trying to see, Sir. asr-001367 02:28:25.000 --> 02:28:26.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001368 02:28:26.000 --> 02:28:35.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you're doing selective justice here. You have two projects. One is more than ten times bigger. One is ten times smaller. Same proponent. asr-001369 02:28:36.000 --> 02:28:41.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: One is even more useful than the other. May gumagamit na ba nung highway ngayon? asr-001370 02:28:41.000 --> 02:28:42.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Nung LLRN, Sir? asr-001371 02:28:42.000 --> 02:28:43.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oo. asr-001372 02:28:43.000 --> 02:28:44.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Wala pa po. asr-001373 02:28:44.000 --> 02:28:45.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oo. So, wala pang public use yun? asr-001374 02:28:45.000 --> 02:28:46.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, Sir. asr-001375 02:28:46.000 --> 02:28:51.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, with your permission, Mr. Chairman. This is a one-minute video. Can you show the one-minute video? asr-001376 02:29:02.000 --> 02:29:03.000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Yes? asr-001377 02:29:06.000 --> 02:29:09.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, Sir. asr-001378 02:29:13.000 --> 02:29:23.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, Mr. Literal. That is the linear park na ginagawa ngayon. That is public use. Hindi private yan. asr-001379 02:29:25.000 --> 02:29:35.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag Christmas, 30,000 people a night dun sa 2 hectare na yan. Pwera pa dun. Okay. Hindi ba yan ay public use? asr-001380 02:29:36.000 --> 02:29:37.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi. asr-001381 02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:41.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Yung tinap niyo, shophouses. asr-001382 02:29:41.000 --> 02:29:42.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano pa? asr-001383 02:29:42.000 --> 02:30:00.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Shophouses. Singapore. Lahat ng Pilipino sinasabi, sanang may ganito tayo sa Pilipinas. Ginagawa ngayon. Yung katabi, I'm not at liberty to tell you who designed it. He's one of the best designers in the country na environmentalist na ginagamit ng national government. asr-001384 02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:07.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang katabi na susunod na gagawin ay yung parang fund to make sure na walang erosion para sa environment. asr-001385 02:30:07.820 --> 02:30:09.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you know that yun ang isang STINAP niya? asr-001386 02:30:12.140 --> 02:30:13.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you know that? asr-001387 02:30:13.400 --> 02:30:13.740 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, sir. asr-001388 02:30:15.080 --> 02:30:19.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Have you ever written the city of Taguig to ask about the project? asr-001389 02:30:20.000 --> 02:30:23.980 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we have written the city of Taguig last October 2025. asr-001390 02:30:23.980 --> 02:30:30.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no, that's not my question. My question is, have you ever written the city of Taguig to ask them about the projects? asr-001391 02:30:31.580 --> 02:30:32.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: About the lots. asr-001392 02:30:32.900 --> 02:30:43.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Ang sinasabi mo, nagsalita ka sa bilyonaryo, ang sabi niyo po, sir, may show cost order kayo sa city. asr-001393 02:30:44.160 --> 02:30:44.540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001394 02:30:45.000 --> 02:30:48.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Can you show me sa letter, saan nakalagay dito show cost? asr-001395 02:30:49.080 --> 02:30:53.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Binasa ko yung letter pa ulit-ulit. Ang nakalagay dito, ma'am, pakibigay yung mga tito. asr-001396 02:30:53.980 --> 02:31:01.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nakalagay dito, ma'am, ano yung project? Wala pong nakalagay dito show cost. Wala po. asr-001397 02:31:02.160 --> 02:31:07.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nakalagay dito, itong mga lupa na ito may titolo, pakita titolo sa PRA. asr-001398 02:31:07.860 --> 02:31:13.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nakapirma po dito, sir, kayo po. Kaya kayo po tinatanong kasi taga-DNR po kayo. asr-001399 02:31:13.800 --> 02:31:15.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, balikan ko yun, sir, ha? asr-001400 02:31:15.260 --> 02:31:15.560 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001401 02:31:15.660 --> 02:31:20.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, kung magtatanong tayo ng titolo, saan po tayo magtatanong? asr-001402 02:31:21.360 --> 02:31:23.960 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Ang mga titolo po ay hinahawakan. asr-001403 02:31:23.980 --> 02:31:26.920 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hinahawakan po ng Land Management Bureau. asr-001404 02:31:27.000 --> 02:31:32.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, alam nyo ba, sir, na inibitahan ng staff ko si chairman sa opisina ko nung sinulat nyo ito? asr-001405 02:31:33.380 --> 02:31:33.820 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Opo. asr-001406 02:31:34.180 --> 02:31:35.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo kung anong sinabi namin? asr-001407 02:31:36.220 --> 02:31:37.220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi ko po alam, sir. asr-001408 02:31:37.240 --> 02:31:40.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi namin, ayaw namin magmukakay yung incompetent sa PRA. asr-001409 02:31:41.240 --> 02:31:44.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, sino ang susulat sa mayor para humingi ng titolo? asr-001410 02:31:44.940 --> 02:31:47.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi naman po registrar of deeds ang asawa ko, eh. asr-001411 02:31:48.120 --> 02:31:49.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang mayor po, hindi naman na ano, eh. asr-001412 02:31:50.320 --> 02:31:52.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ito po, project ng DPWH. asr-001413 02:31:52.060 --> 02:32:00.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lahat ng lupa po na nandyan ay pagmamay-ari ng LLDA under a Republic Act. asr-001414 02:32:01.760 --> 02:32:08.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nung pagdaan ni chairman, if you remember, chairman, sa plenary wala po kayo. asr-001415 02:32:09.560 --> 02:32:10.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hinanap ko po kayo. asr-001416 02:32:11.660 --> 02:32:18.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dahil matagal na kaming magkaibigan nung pamilya ni chairman, pati nung tatay niya ay kaibigan na kaibigan ng tatay ko. asr-001417 02:32:18.540 --> 02:32:21.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang kapatid niya ay kabatch ko, di ba? asr-001418 02:32:22.060 --> 02:32:23.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang mga pinsan niya, kaibigan ko. asr-001419 02:32:24.580 --> 02:32:27.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagdaan sa office ko, tinanong lang, sir, ano problema? asr-001420 02:32:28.140 --> 02:32:33.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At tinanong ko ng staff ko, sir, ba't kayo nagtatanong ng titolo sa mayor at may problema ba dito? asr-001421 02:32:34.200 --> 02:32:35.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya sabi niya, hindi, mag-coordinate na lang. asr-001422 02:32:36.780 --> 02:32:42.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At sinabi ng staff ko, sir, ang magko-coordinate, DPWH, kasi hindi naman po project ng tagig yan, eh. asr-001423 02:32:43.040 --> 02:32:44.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Project ng DPWH. asr-001424 02:32:44.960 --> 02:32:49.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya ang tinanong pa nga ni chairman, kailangan ko ba maghintay dahil birthday nung anak niya? asr-001425 02:32:49.920 --> 02:32:51.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At tinawagan ako ng staff ko, sabi ko, hindi, hindi. asr-001426 02:32:52.060 --> 02:32:59.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya ako lang sila gusto makausap para linawin sa budget, pero kung namamadali at kung mag-uusap-usap naman lahat ng opisina natin, bakit hindi? asr-001427 02:33:00.900 --> 02:33:02.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama, chairman? More or less? asr-001428 02:33:02.820 --> 02:33:03.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less lang, di ba? asr-001429 02:33:04.320 --> 02:33:07.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, so meron po ba akong pananakot sa PRA? asr-001430 02:33:08.300 --> 02:33:10.720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: With the indulgence of the minority leader. asr-001431 02:33:11.160 --> 02:33:12.820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I just have two quick questions. asr-001432 02:33:12.940 --> 02:33:13.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, go ahead. asr-001433 02:33:13.300 --> 02:33:13.860 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Very quick lang. asr-001434 02:33:14.900 --> 02:33:17.180 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I would like to address this to the PRA. asr-001435 02:33:17.180 --> 02:33:22.040 Senator Erwin Tulfo: When is the approval of PRA needed for reclamation project? asr-001436 02:33:22.060 --> 02:33:24.600 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Can any one of you answer that? asr-001437 02:33:25.000 --> 02:33:25.600 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Attorney literal. asr-001438 02:33:26.060 --> 02:33:33.560 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kailan ika nga ang kailangan ng approval ng PRA para sa isang reclamation project? asr-001439 02:33:33.760 --> 02:33:33.960 Senator Erwin Tulfo: When? asr-001440 02:33:34.680 --> 02:33:43.140 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, under our present, they need approval in all types of reclamations for whatever purpose, Mr. asr-001441 02:33:43.500 --> 02:33:43.940 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Okay. asr-001442 02:33:44.640 --> 02:33:46.820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, actually, lahat kailangan. asr-001443 02:33:46.820 --> 02:33:50.460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Hindi kailangan na yung approval ng DA, hindi kailangan. asr-001444 02:33:50.620 --> 02:33:51.820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kailangan lahat. asr-001445 02:33:52.060 --> 02:33:52.760 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Pag reclamation. asr-001446 02:33:53.020 --> 02:33:53.360 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001447 02:33:53.480 --> 02:33:53.740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Alright. asr-001448 02:33:54.000 --> 02:33:55.320 Senator Erwin Tulfo: One last quick question. asr-001449 02:33:56.320 --> 02:34:04.680 Senator Erwin Tulfo: What does Taguig need para ikang malift yung ikang cease and desist order? asr-001450 02:34:05.120 --> 02:34:05.900 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, wala. asr-001451 02:34:06.280 --> 02:34:09.920 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, may CDO po kami sa DPWH. asr-001452 02:34:10.620 --> 02:34:14.200 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sa Taguig City po, yun lang pong letter na yun, Mr. Chair. asr-001453 02:34:14.760 --> 02:34:15.380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: And your honor. asr-001454 02:34:15.380 --> 02:34:16.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. asr-001455 02:34:17.000 --> 02:34:18.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasensya na po kayo. asr-001456 02:34:18.280 --> 02:34:20.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not emotional at you. asr-001457 02:34:22.060 --> 02:34:27.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang tagigin nyo, more than 500 years na. asr-001458 02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:36.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Before 2003, even nung impeachment ni President Erap, kumulan ng October hanggang January, baha kami. asr-001459 02:34:37.640 --> 02:34:39.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala kaming mga main road. asr-001460 02:34:40.460 --> 02:34:46.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Buti ang Makati, may Buendia, may Makati Avenue, may Pasay. asr-001461 02:34:47.140 --> 02:34:47.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-001462 02:34:47.920 --> 02:34:49.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nagawa lang yung Cayetano Boulevard. asr-001463 02:34:49.560 --> 02:34:50.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos itong General Santos. asr-001464 02:34:50.940 --> 02:34:54.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Doon sa tinatanong ko sa inyo, kung pamilyar kayo doon sa isa. asr-001465 02:34:55.560 --> 02:34:59.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, pag pinag-usapan ang syudad namin, you can investigate. asr-001466 02:35:00.820 --> 02:35:01.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Everyone is open. asr-001467 02:35:02.260 --> 02:35:05.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Actually, Mr. Chairman, I'll take the opportunity, kahit sa colleagues natin. asr-001468 02:35:06.240 --> 02:35:07.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'd like to be magnanimous. asr-001469 02:35:07.760 --> 02:35:09.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I thank them for bringing up this issue. asr-001470 02:35:10.220 --> 02:35:15.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang issue ko ay sa DPWH at LLDA at saka sa inyo, tatlo kayong gobyerno. asr-001471 02:35:15.500 --> 02:35:16.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ba't hindi kayo mag-usap? asr-001472 02:35:16.800 --> 02:35:20.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, attorney, nakausap mo na ba si Secretary Vince Dizon? asr-001473 02:35:21.700 --> 02:35:22.120 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes po. asr-001474 02:35:22.600 --> 02:35:23.460 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, sir, hindi. asr-001475 02:35:23.640 --> 02:35:24.420 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yung USEC po. asr-001476 02:35:24.660 --> 02:35:25.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinong USEC po? asr-001477 02:35:26.440 --> 02:35:28.820 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, for the LLRN, it's USEC sa Dain. asr-001478 02:35:29.120 --> 02:35:30.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: For the Taguig Project. asr-001479 02:35:30.540 --> 02:35:36.540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: For the Taguig Project, it's the USEC for the District Engineer, sir. asr-001480 02:35:36.680 --> 02:35:37.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi pa kayo nagkaayos? asr-001481 02:35:37.940 --> 02:35:38.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi pa nasubmit lahat? asr-001482 02:35:38.880 --> 02:35:40.220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, nasubmit na po sa amin. asr-001483 02:35:40.500 --> 02:35:43.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh, bakit? Meron pang cease and desist order. asr-001484 02:35:43.520 --> 02:35:46.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: By the way, Mr. Chairman, walang pondo yun. asr-001485 02:35:46.420 --> 02:35:50.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya kahit hindi nyo sinis and desist, may isa lang na tinatapos na project doon. asr-001486 02:35:50.940 --> 02:35:57.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At yung nasa dyaryo na nag-aayos, bumagyo kasi, nagpaalam sila sa DP na ayusin para hindi bumaksak. asr-001487 02:35:58.880 --> 02:36:02.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi tinanong ko rin eh, sa DP, ano nangyayari sa inyo? asr-001488 02:36:03.400 --> 02:36:08.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya yung sinabi ni Secretary Dizon na I'm ordering cease and desist, inorderan niya, sarili niyang tao eh. asr-001489 02:36:09.280 --> 02:36:10.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kayo ang nag-order sa kanya. asr-001490 02:36:11.680 --> 02:36:12.080 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001491 02:36:12.180 --> 02:36:12.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-001492 02:36:12.640 --> 02:36:13.980 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, sa amin, sir, sa DP daw. asr-001493 02:36:13.980 --> 02:36:14.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Agree. asr-001494 02:36:14.280 --> 02:36:19.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, kalukuhan yung pag-order niya sa sarili niyang tao kasi siya ang inorderan nyo. asr-001495 02:36:19.760 --> 02:36:20.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, number two. asr-001496 02:36:20.700 --> 02:36:24.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, wala naman siyang isi-cease and desist doon sa haba na pinapakita sa media. asr-001497 02:36:25.280 --> 02:36:30.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi hanggang ngayon, yung 2026 budget, hindi nila binibid at hindi nila nilalabas. asr-001498 02:36:31.040 --> 02:36:36.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, wala rin siyang umumpisahan kasi wala rin kontratista na natutuloy doon sa ibang project riyon. asr-001499 02:36:36.140 --> 02:36:40.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Having said that, sir, what about sa City of Muntinlupa? asr-001500 02:36:40.920 --> 02:36:42.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Did you write them also? asr-001501 02:36:42.440 --> 02:36:43.240 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, yes. asr-001502 02:36:43.380 --> 02:36:44.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When did you write them, sir? asr-001503 02:36:44.540 --> 02:36:49.540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, the report was part of the... asr-001504 02:36:50.700 --> 02:36:52.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less lang, sir. asr-001505 02:36:52.280 --> 02:36:52.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: More or less lang. asr-001506 02:36:53.220 --> 02:36:53.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong year yun? asr-001507 02:36:54.600 --> 02:36:57.960 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: September 2 ng 2025. asr-001508 02:36:58.820 --> 02:37:00.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: How about the part... asr-001509 02:37:00.400 --> 02:37:01.240 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, 2026, sir. asr-001510 02:37:01.600 --> 02:37:02.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2026. asr-001511 02:37:02.320 --> 02:37:03.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, 2026. asr-001512 02:37:03.700 --> 02:37:05.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, in anong year? asr-001513 02:37:06.660 --> 02:37:11.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, in 2015, 2010, 2020, hindi nyo sila sinulatan? asr-001514 02:37:13.200 --> 02:37:14.700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sorry, sir. Wala pa ako po. asr-001515 02:37:14.700 --> 02:37:20.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi nyo ba check-in muna bago nyo sulatan ng isang syudad? asr-001516 02:37:20.240 --> 02:37:20.540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir... asr-001517 02:37:20.540 --> 02:37:23.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Do you have any institutional memory? asr-001518 02:37:23.260 --> 02:37:26.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron ba ditong sa legal nyo na napakatagal na nandyan sa PRA? asr-001519 02:37:27.860 --> 02:37:31.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba ang PRA, ang batas nyo, 1977? asr-001520 02:37:32.960 --> 02:37:39.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, before 2025, sumusulat ba kayo sa anywhere in Laguna Lake? asr-001521 02:37:40.360 --> 02:37:42.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I will go to my point, Mr. Chairman. asr-001522 02:37:42.940 --> 02:37:43.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To your memory. asr-001523 02:37:48.040 --> 02:37:48.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hmm. asr-001524 02:37:50.540 --> 02:37:52.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron ba, sirs, ma'am? asr-001525 02:37:53.460 --> 02:37:54.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Institutional memory. asr-001526 02:37:55.680 --> 02:37:57.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, we can go back to that, ha? asr-001527 02:37:58.260 --> 02:37:59.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasig rehabilitation. asr-001528 02:37:59.820 --> 02:38:00.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sinulatan nyo to stop? asr-001529 02:38:02.040 --> 02:38:02.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: To get a permit? asr-001530 02:38:04.620 --> 02:38:07.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tingnan nga natin yung picture ng Pasig Rehabilitation. asr-001531 02:38:11.340 --> 02:38:13.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasig River Rehabilitation Project. asr-001532 02:38:16.700 --> 02:38:19.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, yung part na yan na hanging over the water. asr-001533 02:38:20.180 --> 02:38:20.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-001534 02:38:20.380 --> 02:38:20.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-001535 02:38:20.420 --> 02:38:20.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-001536 02:38:20.520 --> 02:38:22.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Under your definition, reclamation yan? asr-001537 02:38:23.160 --> 02:38:24.940 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, kapag naka-stilts, hindi po. asr-001538 02:38:25.480 --> 02:38:25.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O. asr-001539 02:38:26.380 --> 02:38:28.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: San sa regulation yung nakalagay? asr-001540 02:38:29.280 --> 02:38:33.100 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Kasi wala, sir, permanent dumping, ano, lahok filling up. asr-001541 02:38:33.220 --> 02:38:33.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh, yung stilts? asr-001542 02:38:33.980 --> 02:38:38.380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi po siya, hindi po siya, ano, doon sa definition ng filling up po. asr-001543 02:38:38.700 --> 02:38:41.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O, so, anything na stilts, hindi? asr-001544 02:38:41.280 --> 02:38:41.680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi po. asr-001545 02:38:41.840 --> 02:38:42.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001546 02:38:42.620 --> 02:38:46.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh, yung part na, ano, in-extend from the side ng river. asr-001547 02:38:47.360 --> 02:38:48.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung one meter lang yun. asr-001548 02:38:48.660 --> 02:38:49.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Assuming, assuming one meter. asr-001549 02:38:49.880 --> 02:38:50.360 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir. asr-001550 02:38:50.520 --> 02:38:56.960 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Um, ang kailangan po namin muna, your honor, is yung, kung, yung survey. asr-001551 02:38:57.280 --> 02:38:57.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nga. asr-001552 02:38:57.700 --> 02:38:58.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because sometimes. asr-001553 02:38:58.420 --> 02:38:59.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kina ba kumuha ng permit sa inyo? asr-001554 02:39:00.200 --> 02:39:00.780 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Ano po? asr-001555 02:39:00.920 --> 02:39:02.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kumuha ba ang Pasig Rehabilitation? asr-001556 02:39:03.040 --> 02:39:03.600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Ah, hindi po. asr-001557 02:39:03.640 --> 02:39:03.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi. asr-001558 02:39:04.040 --> 02:39:04.660 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi rin po. asr-001559 02:39:04.840 --> 02:39:05.380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi rin po. asr-001560 02:39:05.520 --> 02:39:07.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, by the way, Mr. Chairman, ha, baka magkamali, ha. asr-001561 02:39:08.320 --> 02:39:10.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I support the LLRN. asr-001562 02:39:10.160 --> 02:39:14.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I support the Pasig, the, the Malacanang is doing a very good job in that. asr-001563 02:39:15.280 --> 02:39:16.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is what I want to point out. asr-001564 02:39:17.460 --> 02:39:18.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagka tagig lakeshore, asr-001565 02:39:18.980 --> 02:39:20.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinisilip nyo lahat. asr-001566 02:39:22.120 --> 02:39:24.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero pag Pasig River, hindi. asr-001567 02:39:25.340 --> 02:39:28.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag ibang parts ng Laguna Lake, hindi. asr-001568 02:39:29.440 --> 02:39:31.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, balik tayo sa Laguna Lake. asr-001569 02:39:32.760 --> 02:39:34.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sino ang may jurisdiction sa Laguna Lake? asr-001570 02:39:35.520 --> 02:39:39.380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, actually, sir, we have overlapping jurisdiction with LLDA. asr-001571 02:39:39.500 --> 02:39:39.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sige po. asr-001572 02:39:40.160 --> 02:39:41.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kayo, sir, lawyer, di ba? asr-001573 02:39:41.640 --> 02:39:42.040 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes po. asr-001574 02:39:42.100 --> 02:39:42.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001575 02:39:42.820 --> 02:39:47.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When you have overlapping jurisdiction, you look at its source. asr-001576 02:39:47.500 --> 02:39:47.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tama, sir? asr-001577 02:39:47.880 --> 02:39:48.380 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001578 02:39:48.980 --> 02:39:51.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, your source is your law and the law ng LLDA? asr-001579 02:39:52.040 --> 02:39:52.400 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001580 02:39:52.820 --> 02:39:53.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001581 02:39:53.540 --> 02:40:02.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And has LLDA in the past ever signified that they have exclusive jurisdiction over the Laguna Lake? asr-001582 02:40:04.100 --> 02:40:04.840 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, they have, sir. asr-001583 02:40:04.900 --> 02:40:05.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They have, di ba? asr-001584 02:40:05.720 --> 02:40:07.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And has PRA respected that? asr-001585 02:40:09.280 --> 02:40:11.820 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, we secured opinions from… asr-001586 02:40:11.820 --> 02:40:11.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no. asr-001587 02:40:11.840 --> 02:40:14.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sagutin mo muna tanong ko, then we'll go to that. asr-001588 02:40:14.280 --> 02:40:14.640 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, sir. asr-001589 02:40:14.640 --> 02:40:18.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, it is only in 2025 that you first… asr-001590 02:40:18.980 --> 02:40:24.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: When you first started to write everyone to try to assert jurisdiction, tama po ba? asr-001591 02:40:25.100 --> 02:40:25.540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Hindi po. asr-001592 02:40:25.980 --> 02:40:26.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kailan po? asr-001593 02:40:26.880 --> 02:40:29.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Before 2025, kailan kayo sumulat? asr-001594 02:40:29.180 --> 02:40:32.480 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, sir, ano yung OGCC? asr-001595 02:40:35.480 --> 02:40:43.480 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, as early as 1995, we already, because of the overlapping jurisdiction, we already secured an OGCC opinion. asr-001596 02:40:43.820 --> 02:40:45.600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Because we're both clients of the OGCC. asr-001597 02:40:45.600 --> 02:40:45.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001598 02:40:46.100 --> 02:40:47.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What about the DOJ? asr-001599 02:40:47.720 --> 02:40:51.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. Between an OGCC and DOJ opinion, what will prevail? asr-001600 02:40:55.220 --> 02:40:56.100 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, DOJ. asr-001601 02:40:56.540 --> 02:40:59.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. So, what does the DO… May DOJ opinion na ba? asr-001602 02:40:59.700 --> 02:41:00.440 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001603 02:41:00.800 --> 02:41:02.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ano sabi ng DOJ? asr-001604 02:41:02.440 --> 02:41:10.460 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, kailangan, sir, i-harmonize. There are no conflicting provision. Kailangan lang, sir, harmonization ng tulos. asr-001605 02:41:10.520 --> 02:41:14.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Which one yun? Anong resolution ang sinasabi mo sa DOJ? asr-001606 02:41:15.000 --> 02:41:15.720 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir? asr-001607 02:41:15.720 --> 02:41:24.020 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, sir, sa DOJ opinion pala, such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, yun nga. asr-001608 02:41:24.140 --> 02:41:39.260 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, sa DOJ opinion, first, opinion number 106, series of 1995, no substantial conflict exists between the provisions of Section 4I of the LLDA Act and Section 4A of the PEA Charter. asr-001609 02:41:39.560 --> 02:41:45.700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, the rule that the special law shall remain as an exception. asr-001612 02:41:45.880 --> 02:41:50.540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: To the general law applies exproprio vigore. asr-001613 02:41:51.760 --> 02:41:55.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Explain to your colleagues kasi yung iba sa kanila yung mga engineer. asr-001614 02:41:56.620 --> 02:42:05.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, that means, tama ba ako? That since special law ang LLDA, LLDA ang may jurisdiction sa Laguna Lake pagdating ng reclamation, hindi kayo? asr-001615 02:42:06.720 --> 02:42:07.540 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, sir. asr-001616 02:42:07.900 --> 02:42:09.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun ang ibig sabi niya, ayan o. asr-001617 02:42:09.720 --> 02:42:14.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In the instant case, no substantial conflict exists between provisions of 4-1. asr-001618 02:42:15.080 --> 02:42:15.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Such being the case, the two provisions being in pari materia, the rule that the special law shall remain as an exception. asr-001619 02:42:15.700 --> 02:42:24.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, that being the case, the two provisions are in pari materia, the rule above stated, the special law shall remain as an exception to the general law. asr-001620 02:42:25.340 --> 02:42:27.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The general law is the PRA law. asr-001621 02:42:27.680 --> 02:42:30.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The special law is the LLDA law. asr-001622 02:42:30.700 --> 02:42:32.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The LLDA law says they can reclaim. asr-001623 02:42:33.340 --> 02:42:42.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: They passed a resolution of their own in 1995 saying that they have exclusive jurisdiction in reclamation in LLDA. asr-001624 02:42:44.000 --> 02:42:45.680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, can I explain? asr-001625 02:42:45.700 --> 02:42:46.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Go ahead, yes. asr-001626 02:42:46.560 --> 02:42:54.360 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, the exclusive jurisdiction over sa general and special is over Laguna Lake. asr-001627 02:42:54.840 --> 02:42:55.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. asr-001628 02:42:55.340 --> 02:42:55.700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001629 02:42:56.080 --> 02:42:57.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And reclamation in Laguna Lake. asr-001630 02:42:57.920 --> 02:43:00.860 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: But on the reclamation, sir, nagbaliktad, sir. asr-001631 02:43:01.420 --> 02:43:02.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasaan nakalagay yun? asr-001632 02:43:03.820 --> 02:43:06.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasaan nakalagay dito sa October 12, 1995? asr-001633 02:43:06.940 --> 02:43:07.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay, fine. asr-001634 02:43:13.020 --> 02:43:15.680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, doon sa DOJ opinion. asr-001635 02:43:15.700 --> 02:43:21.860 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Nang 12 October, sir, yun yung sinabi na wala na special. asr-001636 02:43:22.040 --> 02:43:22.600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001637 02:43:22.880 --> 02:43:23.200 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001638 02:43:23.280 --> 02:43:24.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's a special law. asr-001639 02:43:24.260 --> 02:43:26.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And the special law sabi, they have the power to reclaim. asr-001640 02:43:27.260 --> 02:43:27.620 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001641 02:43:27.640 --> 02:43:28.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And they passed a board resolution. asr-001642 02:43:29.360 --> 02:43:29.700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001643 02:43:29.740 --> 02:43:32.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Said that they have exclusive right to reclaim. asr-001644 02:43:32.580 --> 02:43:32.880 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001645 02:43:33.120 --> 02:43:33.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh. asr-001646 02:43:33.720 --> 02:43:35.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And you never questioned that. asr-001647 02:43:36.160 --> 02:43:39.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Reclaim ng reclaim ang gobyerno through the LLDA. asr-001648 02:43:40.340 --> 02:43:40.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh. asr-001649 02:43:42.360 --> 02:43:43.260 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, can I read the... asr-001650 02:43:43.260 --> 02:43:43.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, go ahead, please. asr-001651 02:43:44.520 --> 02:43:45.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pareho naman tayong hapang. asr-001652 02:43:45.300 --> 02:43:45.560 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001653 02:43:45.560 --> 02:43:45.680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001654 02:43:45.700 --> 02:43:45.880 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001655 02:43:46.300 --> 02:43:49.600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, doon sa last paragraph, sir, nung DOJ opinion. asr-001656 02:43:49.600 --> 02:43:50.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, yun ang binasa ko. asr-001657 02:43:50.500 --> 02:43:50.760 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001658 02:43:51.320 --> 02:43:56.100 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: The rule above stated, special law shall remain as an exception. asr-001659 02:43:57.020 --> 02:44:00.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ibig sabihin, the general rule is, basta't reclamation, PRA. asr-001660 02:44:00.900 --> 02:44:01.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What is the exception? asr-001661 02:44:02.800 --> 02:44:04.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The special law, Laguna Lake. asr-001662 02:44:04.620 --> 02:44:05.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001663 02:44:05.240 --> 02:44:05.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh. asr-001664 02:44:06.160 --> 02:44:09.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tinawagan ko rin ang PRA nung panahon ni PRRD. asr-001665 02:44:10.200 --> 02:44:11.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yun din ang sinabi. asr-001666 02:44:11.820 --> 02:44:15.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na hindi kayo nakikialam sa Laguna Lake because nga, they have a special law. asr-001667 02:44:15.360 --> 02:44:19.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And pareho kayong kumukuha ng NEDA approval, di ba? asr-001668 02:44:21.100 --> 02:44:21.520 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: No, sir. asr-001669 02:44:22.220 --> 02:44:23.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ngayon, may delegated kayo. asr-001670 02:44:23.740 --> 02:44:23.900 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001671 02:44:24.320 --> 02:44:25.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero may iba-iba kayo, di ba? asr-001672 02:44:25.740 --> 02:44:26.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You were under... asr-001673 02:44:27.220 --> 02:44:30.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If you follow the history, you were under DPWH. asr-001674 02:44:31.060 --> 02:44:31.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Before. asr-001675 02:44:31.640 --> 02:44:33.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos, binalik kayo doon. asr-001676 02:44:33.640 --> 02:44:34.000 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001677 02:44:34.060 --> 02:44:35.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-DNR and OP ngayon. asr-001678 02:44:35.280 --> 02:44:38.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, you have to have the president's approval. asr-001679 02:44:38.600 --> 02:44:39.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, NEDA approval. asr-001680 02:44:39.900 --> 02:44:41.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Then, now you can approve for the president. asr-001681 02:44:41.640 --> 02:44:41.980 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001682 02:44:42.060 --> 02:44:43.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oh, kasi general law kayo. asr-001683 02:44:43.380 --> 02:44:45.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You can do that anywhere in the Philippines. asr-001684 02:44:45.460 --> 02:44:48.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Except where there is a special law. asr-001685 02:44:49.040 --> 02:44:49.400 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001686 02:44:50.020 --> 02:44:54.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And assuming, assuming, assuming you want to challenge that right now. asr-001687 02:44:55.040 --> 02:44:56.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Assuming, Mr. Chairman. asr-001688 02:44:56.680 --> 02:44:59.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Assuming for the sake of order, whatever. asr-001689 02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:16.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You think that you can do a better job. That's your call. Pero ano, apektohan yung public service ng mga parks, madi-delay yung pag-construct. So can you again show the picture of the Laguna Lake Highway? asr-001690 02:45:16.240 --> 02:45:46.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you very much. That's what I want to highlight, Mr. Chairman, Chairman Lopez. Walang problema kung every year nag-aaway kayo ng LLDA, eh siyempre inutos ng DPWH, kumuha na lang kayo ng permit sa ano. Pero kung 20 years na, 15 years na nagko-construct sa side namin at may problema ang PRA... asr-001691 02:45:46.240 --> 02:45:53.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA, kahit kami ang maiipit sa gitna. Tapos ang DPWH na mas malaki ang project, hindi maiipit. asr-001692 02:45:53.860 --> 02:46:05.320 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi naman po namin iniipit ang mga project po. We were just asked for their compliances according to our rules. asr-001693 02:46:05.320 --> 02:46:15.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: That is if every single year ginagawa nyo. Sinasabi ko nga sa inyo, 20 years na may project yan, hindi naman kayo sumusulat doon. asr-001694 02:46:15.320 --> 02:46:25.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos pagsulat nyo ongoing yung project, hindi nyo ako tinanong. Dalawa senador na taga-tagig dyan, hindi nyo tinanong yung mayor, hindi nyo tinanong yung dalawang congressman. asr-001695 02:46:26.020 --> 02:46:37.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos ang DPWH takot sumagot sa inyo. So hindi ba naipit? So ngayon, kung sa City of Manila, may project dyan na pinapakinabangan ng napakaraming tao, hindi private yan, public. asr-001696 02:46:37.940 --> 02:46:44.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because may dalawang ahensya na hindi magkasundo kung sino. Biglang matigil, hindi ba naipit yun? asr-001697 02:46:45.320 --> 02:46:49.700 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: We will call their attention po to regularize. asr-001698 02:46:49.700 --> 02:47:07.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. But sinis and desist eh. Wala namang additional reclamation. Kung pumunta lang kayo doon at inimbitahan namin lahat na pumunta doon at nakita nyo, pinapalitadahan lang yung isang project, hindi na kayo gumawa ng gulo at nag-issue ng cease and desist. Hindi ba? asr-001699 02:47:08.520 --> 02:47:15.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung nagpatawag kayo ng meeting ng DPWH at LLDA, kung inimbitahan nyo yung congressman doon sa lugar na yon, asr-001700 02:47:15.320 --> 02:47:21.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung inimbitahan nyo yung local government, kung inimbitahan nyo yung mga barangay involved, nangyari pa ba itong lahat na to? asr-001701 02:47:24.700 --> 02:47:36.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung kapaligtarin ko, kung ganyan ko kayo ituring, hindi na dito tayo mag-usap, kung sa media ko nilabas itong lahat, every week, every ngan, magkakaintindihan ba tayo, sir? asr-001702 02:47:37.360 --> 02:47:44.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung project nyo, yung PIEC, kung hindi ko pakinggan ngayon at banatang ko na lang every week, asr-001703 02:47:45.320 --> 02:47:52.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tapos kawawa ang Pilipinas pag na-delay kasi maganda naman pala. Will you appreciate that, Mr. Chairman? asr-001704 02:47:54.060 --> 02:48:06.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala kaming problema kung may anomalya dyan, kung may titles. Sir, are you aware, sir, taga DNR, are you aware na napakaraming fake titles dyan? asr-001705 02:48:07.080 --> 02:48:08.980 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Totoo po yun, Mr. Your Honor. asr-001706 02:48:09.500 --> 02:48:14.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So what does myself, what does Mayor Lani, what does Taguig have to do? asr-001707 02:48:15.320 --> 02:48:16.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung may fake titles dyan. asr-001708 02:48:19.280 --> 02:48:20.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi ni-imbestigahan nyo. asr-001709 02:48:21.020 --> 02:48:24.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di-imbestigahan nyo with LRA, wala kaming problema dun, sir. asr-001710 02:48:27.720 --> 02:48:28.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala kaming problema dun. asr-001711 02:48:29.860 --> 02:48:32.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: O sabi nyo may nireclaim illegally, mapupunta sa gobyerno. asr-001712 02:48:33.320 --> 02:48:35.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lahat tunong makikita nyo dyan sa gobyerno eh. asr-001713 02:48:35.840 --> 02:48:37.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So ano ang kukunin nyo para sa gobyerno? asr-001714 02:48:39.580 --> 02:48:42.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, sa interview nyo, paulit-ulit kayo, kukunin namin yan. asr-001715 02:48:43.360 --> 02:48:45.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong kukunin nyo po? Eh sa gobyerno naman po. asr-001716 02:48:45.320 --> 02:48:45.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anong kukunin nyo po yan? asr-001717 02:48:47.120 --> 02:48:51.660 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, actually we're not stopping the construction. asr-001718 02:48:53.120 --> 02:48:59.340 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: I just want to clarify, Your Honor, what we have questioned with the DPWH asr-001719 02:48:59.340 --> 02:49:09.860 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: is the filling up of the area which is enclosed by the, with the slope protection and the C6. asr-001720 02:49:10.340 --> 02:49:11.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And you didn't explain it? asr-001721 02:49:13.160 --> 02:49:14.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, eto ah. asr-001722 02:49:15.320 --> 02:49:17.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ay Secretary Dizon ang nagpapaliwanag. asr-001723 02:49:17.380 --> 02:49:18.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam nyo po bakit, sir? asr-001724 02:49:19.180 --> 02:49:22.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi nung panahon ni President Pinoy, chief of staff ko siya. asr-001725 02:49:23.160 --> 02:49:24.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So familiar siya dyan. asr-001726 02:49:25.300 --> 02:49:33.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nung panahon ni PRD, presidential advisor on flagship program siya. asr-001727 02:49:33.780 --> 02:49:37.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At parati niyang kasama ang DOTR at DPWH. asr-001728 02:49:37.480 --> 02:49:40.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At nandyan siya nung napag-usapan yung project. asr-001729 02:49:40.760 --> 02:49:41.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya alam niya. asr-001730 02:49:41.940 --> 02:49:44.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eto, sir, na kulay blue at kulay pula. asr-001731 02:49:44.660 --> 02:49:45.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yan ang re-alignance. asr-001732 02:49:45.320 --> 02:49:51.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yan ang re-alignance ngayon dahil kailangan ilayo ng 1 kilometer from the lakeshore. asr-001733 02:49:51.960 --> 02:49:56.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Because kung hindi, sir, yung 1,300 hectares namin aano rin na. asr-001734 02:49:57.800 --> 02:50:03.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At kung hindi gagawan ng lake ng park, sir, ano nangyayari pagka tapos tubig na? asr-001735 02:50:03.840 --> 02:50:04.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In your experience? asr-001736 02:50:05.280 --> 02:50:05.720 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Erosion. asr-001737 02:50:06.280 --> 02:50:09.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Aside from erosion, binabahayan, di ba, ng tao? asr-001738 02:50:09.240 --> 02:50:09.560 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001739 02:50:09.960 --> 02:50:12.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Aside from binabahayan, tinatapo na ng basura, di ba, sir? asr-001740 02:50:12.800 --> 02:50:13.200 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001741 02:50:13.200 --> 02:50:14.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero pag may park, sir? asr-001742 02:50:15.320 --> 02:50:16.220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001743 02:50:16.220 --> 02:50:17.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Completed na? asr-001744 02:50:17.880 --> 02:50:18.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Completed lahat, di ba, sir? asr-001745 02:50:19.000 --> 02:50:21.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May CR, walang nagda-dump sa tubig. asr-001746 02:50:21.620 --> 02:50:22.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yan yung purpose niyon, sir. asr-001747 02:50:22.820 --> 02:50:24.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang tawag diyan, linear park. asr-001748 02:50:25.220 --> 02:50:30.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I don't take it against anyone who wants to investigate, who asks, may project. asr-001749 02:50:30.540 --> 02:50:34.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang hinihingi ko lang, Mr. Chairman, I'll, I'll, ano, dahil I'm taking up too much time. asr-001750 02:50:35.820 --> 02:50:37.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi pa pwede mag-usap yung gobyerno. asr-001751 02:50:38.460 --> 02:50:39.220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, we will, your honor. asr-001752 02:50:39.220 --> 02:50:42.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sa Friday, nandito si Secretary Vince Dizon. asr-001753 02:50:42.600 --> 02:50:45.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Can someone of authority sa inyo attend? asr-001754 02:50:45.320 --> 02:50:47.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Para kayo mag-usap? asr-001755 02:50:47.900 --> 02:50:54.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In front of all of us, para hindi kayo, di ba, he said this, he said this. asr-001756 02:50:54.740 --> 02:50:55.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya kayo mag-usap. asr-001757 02:50:56.420 --> 02:50:57.600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your honor, if I may? asr-001758 02:50:57.600 --> 02:50:58.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, go ahead. asr-001759 02:50:58.800 --> 02:51:06.180 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Actually, tama po kayo kung, kung finilap nyo, hindi po matatamba ka ng basura. asr-001760 02:51:06.860 --> 02:51:09.480 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Going back lang po doon sa 2018 incident, asr-001761 02:51:10.060 --> 02:51:14.480 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: actually, ang una po namin na, na, na, stop. asr-001762 02:51:15.320 --> 02:51:19.680 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Is a filling up doon sa portion nung dulo po, na may basura po. asr-001763 02:51:20.260 --> 02:51:20.660 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-001764 02:51:21.200 --> 02:51:30.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I don't know where I remember you from eh, but your name is very familiar or you just have one of those names that are nice and easy to pronounce and everything. asr-001765 02:51:30.700 --> 02:51:33.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, this goes to everyone. asr-001766 02:51:33.860 --> 02:51:35.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ba reputation is important? asr-001767 02:51:36.940 --> 02:51:37.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-001768 02:51:37.940 --> 02:51:43.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya kami ni Senator Tulfo nagbabanatan din minsan, pero, you know, we try to then, we talk. asr-001769 02:51:43.600 --> 02:51:44.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Why? asr-001770 02:51:44.480 --> 02:51:45.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: His reputation. asr-001771 02:51:45.320 --> 02:51:46.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is important to him. asr-001772 02:51:46.300 --> 02:51:47.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: My reputation is important to him. asr-001773 02:51:48.560 --> 02:51:50.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Who will speak for the city of Taguig? asr-001774 02:51:52.220 --> 02:51:59.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, pag sinabing may anomalya dyan, may titulo dyan, and this is dyan, et cetera, hindi po tao yung city eh. asr-001775 02:52:00.180 --> 02:52:06.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya ko tinanong, chairman, di ba, kung Manila yun, whether official ka o hindi, pag sinabing Manila ganito, Manila ganyan. asr-001776 02:52:07.580 --> 02:52:11.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, yun ang problema, sir, kasi ang dami na sinabi about our city. asr-001777 02:52:11.160 --> 02:52:15.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, like, halimbawa, sir, sa titling, no, I mean, maybe si engineer. asr-001778 02:52:15.320 --> 02:52:21.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Does the city have any, any, ano, participation in land titling? asr-001779 02:52:24.460 --> 02:52:33.520 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Sa proseso po, your honor, ay kailangan po namin ng concurrence po ng, ano, halimbawa yung city po, katulad po ng nangyayari. asr-001780 02:52:33.520 --> 02:52:41.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, but I'm saying, sir, di ba, if I'm a private, magpapatitulo ako, di ba, I either go to LRA or to court, di ba? asr-001781 02:52:41.760 --> 02:52:42.020 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Opo. asr-001782 02:52:42.020 --> 02:52:42.060 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Opo. asr-001783 02:52:42.760 --> 02:52:44.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala namang participation yung city, di ba? asr-001784 02:52:45.320 --> 02:52:47.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang city ba nagpapatitulo? asr-001785 02:52:47.640 --> 02:52:53.200 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Your honor, bahagi po ng proseso ng pagtitulo po ay yung kailangan po na may SOP yan. asr-001786 02:52:53.780 --> 02:52:55.220 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: At kung ito ay pag-aay po. asr-001787 02:52:55.400 --> 02:52:58.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, sabihin niyo yung SOP kasi sa media may ibang ibig sabihin ng SOP. asr-001788 02:53:00.060 --> 02:53:00.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pakisabi, sir. asr-001789 02:53:00.740 --> 02:53:01.440 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Survey, survey po. asr-001790 02:53:01.780 --> 02:53:02.380 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: May survey. asr-001791 02:53:02.620 --> 02:53:03.180 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: May survey. asr-001792 02:53:03.740 --> 02:53:07.880 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: At in-administer po ito ng lisensyado pong judetic engineer. asr-001793 02:53:07.960 --> 02:53:08.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, not the city. asr-001794 02:53:08.700 --> 02:53:09.620 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: So, gagawa po ng plano yan. asr-001795 02:53:09.640 --> 02:53:10.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, not the city. asr-001796 02:53:10.480 --> 02:53:11.600 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: At pag natapos po dito. asr-001797 02:53:11.960 --> 02:53:12.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. asr-001798 02:53:12.220 --> 02:53:14.360 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Of course po, may pipirman po ng city. asr-001799 02:53:14.360 --> 02:53:15.620 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Okay, kasi sa kanila po yung lupa. asr-001800 02:53:16.420 --> 02:53:16.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sorry po. asr-001801 02:53:17.300 --> 02:53:18.500 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: May pipirman po yung plano. asr-001802 02:53:18.500 --> 02:53:18.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, no. asr-001803 02:53:19.100 --> 02:53:21.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You're talking about land that city owns. asr-001804 02:53:21.920 --> 02:53:22.340 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Yes po. asr-001805 02:53:22.500 --> 02:53:24.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No, I'm talking about land titling in general. asr-001806 02:53:25.500 --> 02:53:26.140 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Ganon din po. asr-001807 02:53:26.600 --> 02:53:31.760 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Yung plano po ng lupa, kailangan po pirmahan nila, mag-concur po sila sa ginawa po ng judetic engineer. asr-001808 02:53:31.760 --> 02:53:32.660 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: So, may concurrence. asr-001809 02:53:32.920 --> 02:53:38.360 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: At yun po ang isasabit natin doon po sa DINR po, sa Land Management Bureau. asr-001810 02:53:38.620 --> 02:53:41.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sino ang pipirma sa city para sa land? asr-001811 02:53:41.360 --> 02:53:42.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I have not. asr-001812 02:53:43.240 --> 02:53:44.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi pa ako nagpapatitulo. asr-001813 02:53:44.360 --> 02:53:45.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nagpapatitulo ng lupa. asr-001814 02:53:46.860 --> 02:53:57.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sa media kasi, it's being communicated na para bang ang city ang gumagawa ng titlo. asr-001815 02:53:57.960 --> 02:54:06.900 PRA General Manager and CEO Cesar S. Siador Jr.: Your Honor, as per advice po na kasama ko, na dati ko rin kasamahan sa DINR, ay yung assessor po ang normally pumipirma po para sa titlo po ng lupa. asr-001816 02:54:06.900 --> 02:54:12.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, because the assessor, if you do not have a title yet, but you're paying the taxes, asr-001817 02:54:12.620 --> 02:54:15.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then you will get the tax deck. asr-001818 02:54:16.320 --> 02:54:16.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-001819 02:54:16.840 --> 02:54:24.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And if you go, for example, sa Fort Bonifacio, nung binenta yan, there were several having tax decks for the same lupa. asr-001820 02:54:25.800 --> 02:54:27.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ganon din, may mga fake titles nun. asr-001821 02:54:27.860 --> 02:54:27.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-001822 02:54:29.420 --> 02:54:37.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, what I'm saying is that, if you're saying they're part of the process in the sense that you have to get the tax deck and you have to sign, asr-001823 02:54:38.980 --> 02:54:39.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba? asr-001824 02:54:39.100 --> 02:54:42.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, regardless, itabi mo yan. asr-001825 02:54:42.620 --> 02:54:45.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, what does the city have to do kung may mga titlo dun? asr-001826 02:54:47.600 --> 02:54:49.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Familiar ba kayo ng land titling sa Laguna Lake? asr-001827 02:54:50.480 --> 02:54:52.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: This is the second to my final, ano. asr-001828 02:54:52.440 --> 02:54:58.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, are you familiar with the land titlings upon the Laguna Lake area? asr-001829 02:54:59.500 --> 02:55:00.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di po, sir. asr-001830 02:55:00.300 --> 02:55:03.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. I will familiarize you guys, para lang malinaw, pati sa media. asr-001831 02:55:04.880 --> 02:55:07.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 60s, 70s, napasay yung Laguna Lake, diba? asr-001832 02:55:08.280 --> 02:55:11.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Martial law, pwede kang PD, presidential decree. asr-001833 02:55:12.620 --> 02:55:14.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang PD is the effect of law. asr-001834 02:55:15.820 --> 02:55:17.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? Because of Proclamation No. 3. asr-001835 02:55:18.260 --> 02:55:18.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001836 02:55:18.920 --> 02:55:25.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi sa LLDA law, pag mababa sa 12.5 meters, automatically, it is owned by LLDA. asr-001837 02:55:25.840 --> 02:55:27.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's under their jurisdiction. asr-001838 02:55:27.880 --> 02:55:29.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: At pag may lupa dun, sa kanila yun. asr-001839 02:55:30.260 --> 02:55:30.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nasa law yun. asr-001840 02:55:31.940 --> 02:55:36.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, even under PD 3, even under martial law, may constitution tayo. asr-001841 02:55:37.280 --> 02:55:41.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And the constitution says, you cannot take land without payment. asr-001842 02:55:41.000 --> 02:55:42.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, any... asr-001843 02:55:42.620 --> 02:55:48.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Anyone who already had title nun, ay hindi pwedeng kunin ng LLDA unless babayaran nila. asr-001844 02:55:48.980 --> 02:55:50.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? Kasi may title ka na eh. asr-001845 02:55:50.920 --> 02:55:52.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, isang tabi na natin yun. asr-001846 02:55:52.340 --> 02:55:55.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung mga may title before the LLDA law. asr-001847 02:55:55.800 --> 02:55:56.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-001848 02:55:56.500 --> 02:55:58.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: After that, nasubaybayan ko yan over the years. asr-001849 02:55:59.500 --> 02:56:01.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 1992, I was 21 years old. asr-001850 02:56:01.560 --> 02:56:02.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Conceal na ako sa tagi. asr-001851 02:56:03.240 --> 02:56:09.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang nangyayari dyan usually, pag may nag-file sa RTC for title, asr-001852 02:56:09.760 --> 02:56:11.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kwe-question yun ng LLDA dahil sa batas nila. asr-001853 02:56:12.620 --> 02:56:20.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, pag na-prove nung may-ari na sa kanya yun at na-grant ng RTC, asr-001854 02:56:20.920 --> 02:56:22.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung araw, inaabot pa ng Supreme Court. asr-001855 02:56:23.400 --> 02:56:26.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But, I don't know when, if it was 80s or 90s, asr-001856 02:56:27.160 --> 02:56:28.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naging desisyon ng LLDA, asr-001857 02:56:29.040 --> 02:56:31.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pag nanalo sa RTC, huwag na natin habulin hanggang Supreme Court. asr-001858 02:56:32.540 --> 02:56:34.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, talo na tayo sa RTC. asr-001859 02:56:34.800 --> 02:56:38.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, meron talagang mga titulo dyan. asr-001860 02:56:38.500 --> 02:56:40.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Again, I ask the question, asr-001861 02:56:40.740 --> 02:56:42.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: unless yung city ang nagpapasili... asr-001862 02:56:42.620 --> 02:56:46.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: What does the city have to do with all the titles there? asr-001863 02:56:46.480 --> 02:56:47.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya, nasabi ko sa media, asr-001864 02:56:49.020 --> 02:56:53.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung babawiin nyo lahat ng titulo ng lahat sa Laguna Lake, asr-001865 02:56:53.260 --> 02:56:55.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pabor sa amin yun kasi gobyerno ngayon yun. asr-001866 02:56:55.780 --> 02:56:57.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, magkakagulo tayo sa lahat ng... asr-001867 02:56:58.560 --> 02:57:00.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa Torrens title. asr-001868 02:57:00.860 --> 02:57:03.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, yung iba dyan, 20, 30, 40 years, asr-001869 02:57:03.480 --> 02:57:04.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: puwera yung fake. asr-001870 02:57:05.200 --> 02:57:06.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yung fake at any time, asr-001871 02:57:10.620 --> 02:57:11.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano ba ang... asr-001872 02:57:11.620 --> 02:57:11.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang... asr-001873 02:57:11.880 --> 02:57:13.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pagka-fraudulent yung title? asr-001874 02:57:14.700 --> 02:57:15.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Dalawa, di ba? asr-001875 02:57:15.540 --> 02:57:17.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagka yung fake, as in it's hindi totoo, asr-001876 02:57:18.800 --> 02:57:19.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: any time yun. asr-001877 02:57:19.740 --> 02:57:20.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala yun. asr-001878 02:57:20.400 --> 02:57:20.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Wala yun. asr-001879 02:57:21.280 --> 02:57:22.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: It's null and void. asr-001880 02:57:22.780 --> 02:57:23.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-001881 02:57:23.540 --> 02:57:25.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, if you have a real title, asr-001882 02:57:25.300 --> 02:57:27.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: but through fraudulent means, asr-001883 02:57:27.720 --> 02:57:28.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakuha mo, asr-001884 02:57:29.140 --> 02:57:29.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is it four years? asr-001885 02:57:30.140 --> 02:57:31.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Four years from discovery? asr-001886 02:57:31.760 --> 02:57:33.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa sa inyo is a broker, eh. asr-001887 02:57:33.800 --> 02:57:34.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nakita ko sa... asr-001888 02:57:34.980 --> 02:57:35.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa ano nyo. asr-001889 02:57:35.740 --> 02:57:37.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sino yung broker sa... asr-001890 02:57:37.260 --> 02:57:38.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa sa board nyo... asr-001891 02:57:38.420 --> 02:57:38.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi, oh. asr-001892 02:57:38.840 --> 02:57:41.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. El Defonso is the director of the Bureau of Land, asr-001893 02:57:41.980 --> 02:57:43.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the longest of time. asr-001894 02:57:43.120 --> 02:57:44.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, maybe you can answer. asr-001895 02:57:44.300 --> 02:57:45.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sir, pagka... asr-001896 02:57:45.360 --> 02:57:45.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano, asr-001897 02:57:46.100 --> 02:57:46.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tunay yung title, asr-001898 02:57:47.120 --> 02:57:48.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero fraudulent yung pagkuha, asr-001899 02:57:48.540 --> 02:57:49.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba you can question it pa? asr-001900 02:57:50.200 --> 02:57:50.780 PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso: Yeah, yes. asr-001901 02:57:51.660 --> 02:57:52.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Isa. asr-001902 02:57:52.240 --> 02:57:53.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: For how long, sir? asr-001903 02:57:53.520 --> 02:57:54.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Four years pa? asr-001904 02:57:54.080 --> 02:57:54.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Or eight years, di ba? asr-001905 02:57:55.080 --> 02:57:56.200 PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso: Walang prescription. asr-001906 02:57:57.140 --> 02:57:58.260 PRA Director Eligio T. Ildefonso: As far as I know. asr-001907 02:57:58.460 --> 02:58:00.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, I'll go through it, sir. asr-001908 02:58:00.960 --> 02:58:02.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pag everything is legit, asr-001909 02:58:03.640 --> 02:58:05.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na-inform lahat ng katabi mo, asr-001910 02:58:05.120 --> 02:58:05.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nasunod mo lahat, asr-001911 02:58:05.880 --> 02:58:07.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may right ka talaga doon, asr-001912 02:58:07.380 --> 02:58:08.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagkatitulo ka, asr-001913 02:58:08.840 --> 02:58:10.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: everyone has one year asr-001914 02:58:10.380 --> 02:58:11.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: from the issue, asr-001915 02:58:11.880 --> 02:58:12.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: one student title, asr-001916 02:58:12.720 --> 02:58:13.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that is, asr-001917 02:58:13.100 --> 02:58:14.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that is, asr-001918 02:58:15.300 --> 02:58:16.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: what do you call this, asr-001919 02:58:16.500 --> 02:58:17.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: publicized. asr-001920 02:58:17.480 --> 02:58:18.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You have one year. asr-001921 02:58:18.720 --> 02:58:19.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung hindi, asr-001922 02:58:19.560 --> 02:58:21.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi mo na madi-dispute, asr-001923 02:58:21.280 --> 02:58:21.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: di ba? asr-001924 02:58:21.920 --> 02:58:23.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The exception is, asr-001925 02:58:23.600 --> 02:58:26.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: if you got it through fraudulent means, asr-001926 02:58:26.720 --> 02:58:27.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: then from discovery, asr-001927 02:58:27.980 --> 02:58:28.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you have a time period, asr-001928 02:58:28.860 --> 02:58:29.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not sure, asr-001929 02:58:29.320 --> 02:58:29.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: four years. asr-001930 02:58:30.240 --> 02:58:31.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: There's a third kind, asr-001931 02:58:31.320 --> 02:58:32.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: fake title. asr-001932 02:58:32.860 --> 02:58:34.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Walang prescription yun, asr-001933 02:58:34.100 --> 02:58:35.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi null and void yun. asr-001934 02:58:35.520 --> 02:58:36.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Fake yun. asr-001935 02:58:36.340 --> 02:58:37.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi totoo. asr-001936 02:58:37.700 --> 02:58:37.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? asr-001937 02:58:39.200 --> 02:58:39.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Oo. asr-001938 02:58:39.440 --> 02:58:41.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, yun ang sinasabi ko, asr-001939 02:58:41.340 --> 02:58:41.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Mr. Chairman. asr-001940 02:58:41.880 --> 02:58:42.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasensya na. asr-001941 02:58:43.160 --> 02:58:45.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If fake titles are going around asr-001942 02:58:45.480 --> 02:58:46.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and sasabihin yung asr-001943 02:58:46.720 --> 02:58:48.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: there's a hundred hectares asr-001944 02:58:48.320 --> 02:58:49.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: underwater na gano'n asr-001945 02:58:49.340 --> 02:58:50.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and that's a fake title, asr-001946 02:58:51.560 --> 02:58:52.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kawawa naman mga taga LRA. asr-001947 02:58:53.440 --> 02:58:54.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kawawa naman yung assessor. asr-001948 02:58:55.140 --> 02:58:55.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kawawa naman yung asr-001949 02:58:55.740 --> 02:58:56.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: legitimate owners. asr-001950 02:58:57.540 --> 02:58:58.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-iisip sila lahat. asr-001951 02:58:58.580 --> 02:58:59.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kaya nung sinabing asr-001952 02:58:59.280 --> 02:59:01.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 17 hectares, asr-001953 02:59:01.120 --> 02:59:02.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 180 ba yun, asr-001954 02:59:02.300 --> 02:59:02.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 70? asr-001955 02:59:03.520 --> 02:59:04.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hinahanap nung lahat eh. asr-001956 02:59:05.780 --> 02:59:06.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hinahanap nung lahat. asr-001957 02:59:06.780 --> 02:59:06.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pati, asr-001958 02:59:07.080 --> 02:59:08.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meron yung titulo dyan asr-001959 02:59:08.560 --> 02:59:09.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na 18. asr-001960 02:59:10.640 --> 02:59:11.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi mga sumusulat formal, asr-001961 02:59:11.880 --> 02:59:13.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kasi kasabihin, asr-001962 02:59:13.200 --> 02:59:13.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakikialam. asr-001963 02:59:14.460 --> 02:59:15.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam mo kanino ako asr-001964 02:59:15.400 --> 02:59:16.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagtatanong sa brokers? asr-001965 02:59:17.240 --> 02:59:18.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi sila nagbebente. asr-001966 02:59:18.840 --> 02:59:20.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May bentahan ba dyan asr-001967 02:59:20.100 --> 02:59:20.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na last 5 years asr-001968 02:59:20.860 --> 02:59:22.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: o na last 10 years asr-001969 02:59:22.200 --> 02:59:22.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nung 18? asr-001970 02:59:23.000 --> 02:59:23.760 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Mr. Senator, asr-001971 02:59:24.040 --> 02:59:25.880 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Hindi po namin sinasabing asr-001972 02:59:26.500 --> 02:59:28.120 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: fake title. asr-001973 02:59:28.240 --> 02:59:29.420 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Wala akong kami sinasabing gano'n. asr-001974 02:59:29.500 --> 02:59:30.680 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Ang sinasabi lang namin, asr-001975 02:59:30.940 --> 02:59:32.080 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: unauthorized po. asr-001976 02:59:32.360 --> 02:59:32.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes, sir. asr-001977 02:59:33.080 --> 02:59:34.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang problema, sir, asr-001978 02:59:34.680 --> 02:59:36.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa mga interviews, asr-001979 02:59:36.360 --> 02:59:37.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sinasabi, asr-001980 02:59:37.820 --> 02:59:38.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagahalo na kasi. asr-001981 02:59:39.320 --> 02:59:39.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos, asr-001982 02:59:39.900 --> 02:59:40.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sasabihin, asr-001983 02:59:40.300 --> 02:59:41.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakita na ng PRA. asr-001984 02:59:41.880 --> 02:59:43.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 30 hectares. asr-001985 02:59:44.080 --> 02:59:45.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nakita na ng PRA, asr-001986 02:59:45.420 --> 02:59:46.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 170 hectares. asr-001987 02:59:47.120 --> 02:59:48.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nakita na ng PRA, asr-001988 02:59:48.880 --> 02:59:49.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may titulo, asr-001989 02:59:49.760 --> 02:59:50.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: underwater. asr-001990 02:59:51.580 --> 02:59:52.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And hindi natin alam asr-001991 02:59:52.480 --> 02:59:53.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung tunay yung titulo na yan. asr-001992 02:59:54.420 --> 02:59:55.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: In the meantime, asr-001993 02:59:55.260 --> 02:59:56.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: bugbog na bugbog asr-001994 02:59:56.080 --> 02:59:57.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung reputation ng city namin. asr-001995 02:59:58.120 --> 02:59:59.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Again, I ask you the question. asr-001996 03:00:00.000 --> 03:00:01.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: who will talk for our city? asr-001997 03:00:03.320 --> 03:00:03.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-001998 03:00:03.940 --> 03:00:06.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, sana na-realize nyo lang yung problema ngayon asr-001999 03:00:06.020 --> 03:00:07.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and sana we're all just, asr-002000 03:00:07.860 --> 03:00:09.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: how do I put it, circumspect. asr-002001 03:00:09.860 --> 03:00:11.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Now, kung totoo, sir, crucify. asr-002002 03:00:12.740 --> 03:00:13.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung totoo, kung sino asr-002003 03:00:13.920 --> 03:00:16.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: man ito manon, kahit na ako yun, asr-002004 03:00:16.160 --> 03:00:17.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit na yung mayor, yung congressman, asr-002005 03:00:18.280 --> 03:00:19.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit na sa first asr-002006 03:00:19.920 --> 03:00:21.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: family, kung may gumagawa ng anomalya asr-002007 03:00:21.920 --> 03:00:23.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dyan, go ahead, sir. Pero habang asr-002008 03:00:23.900 --> 03:00:25.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: iniimbestiga, baka pwedeng asr-002009 03:00:25.940 --> 03:00:28.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may konti tayong circumspection, asr-002010 03:00:28.400 --> 03:00:29.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba? And then, secondly, asr-002011 03:00:30.000 --> 03:00:31.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sana nga, sir, between, asr-002012 03:00:32.280 --> 03:00:33.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I mean, although asr-002013 03:00:33.720 --> 03:00:35.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ang LLDA now is under asr-002014 03:00:35.580 --> 03:00:38.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DNR, tama ba, asr-002015 03:00:38.140 --> 03:00:39.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir, na once upon a time, it was under asr-002016 03:00:39.900 --> 03:00:40.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: OP din? asr-002017 03:00:42.240 --> 03:00:43.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang LLDA? asr-002018 03:00:45.560 --> 03:00:47.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Alam ko, nag-ano din yun, eh. Umiikot din yun, eh. asr-002019 03:00:48.360 --> 03:00:49.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But ang point ko is, once asr-002020 03:00:49.780 --> 03:00:51.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: upon a time, you were under OP. asr-002021 03:00:52.260 --> 03:00:53.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ang LLDA, asr-002022 03:00:53.920 --> 03:00:55.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I think it was, I'm not sure, ah, asr-002023 03:00:55.860 --> 03:00:57.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero ngayon, under DNR. Tapos, ang asr-002024 03:00:57.640 --> 03:00:59.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: chairman ng board is the asr-002025 03:00:59.700 --> 03:01:01.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DNR secretary. So, pareho asr-002026 03:01:01.880 --> 03:01:04.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naman kayong gobyerno, lahat naman kami magkukumplay, eh. asr-002027 03:01:05.300 --> 03:01:05.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, asr-002028 03:01:06.040 --> 03:01:07.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: i-synchronize nyo yung asr-002029 03:01:07.780 --> 03:01:09.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: rules nyo. Hindi pwedeng sinasabi asr-002030 03:01:09.720 --> 03:01:11.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng LLDA sa amin, asr-002031 03:01:12.300 --> 03:01:13.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kami, sabi nyo, tapos asr-002032 03:01:13.860 --> 03:01:15.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may ipit. Last question. asr-002033 03:01:16.860 --> 03:01:17.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Assuming, asr-002034 03:01:18.640 --> 03:01:19.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sino man may jurisdiction, asr-002035 03:01:20.600 --> 03:01:21.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: under both rules asr-002036 03:01:21.700 --> 03:01:23.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of the LLDA and asr-002037 03:01:23.900 --> 03:01:25.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the DNR, asr-002038 03:01:25.680 --> 03:01:27.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sino ang dapat kumuha ng permit? asr-002039 03:01:27.100 --> 03:01:28.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002040 03:01:29.700 --> 03:01:33.920 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sa reclamation permit, sir? asr-002041 03:01:34.440 --> 03:01:35.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Reclamation and infrastructure asr-002042 03:01:35.960 --> 03:01:37.940 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: that came about because of asr-002043 03:01:37.940 --> 03:01:38.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the unauthorized asr-002044 03:01:38.920 --> 03:01:40.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: reclamation. asr-002044-split-2 03:01:40.520 --> 03:01:41.900 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Sir, for the reclamation, sir, asr-002045 03:01:41.940 --> 03:01:43.760 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: it's the proponents. asr-002045-split-2 03:01:43.760 --> 03:01:44.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Yes. asr-002046 03:01:44.240 --> 03:01:46.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And in this case, in Taguig, asr-002047 03:01:46.120 --> 03:01:47.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we're talking about who? asr-002048 03:01:47.740 --> 03:01:48.290 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: DPWH. asr-002048-split-2 03:01:48.290 --> 03:01:49.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH. asr-002048-split-3 03:01:49.080 --> 03:01:49.600 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Yes, sir. asr-002049 03:01:49.800 --> 03:01:51.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, ang ugat ng problema natin, asr-002050 03:01:52.060 --> 03:01:53.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ang city, hindi asr-002051 03:01:53.860 --> 03:01:54.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ako, asr-002052 03:01:55.880 --> 03:01:57.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hindi ko sino man, kung hindi, ang asr-002053 03:01:57.520 --> 03:01:58.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kakulangan ng DPWH. asr-002054 03:01:59.700 --> 03:02:01.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, nung tinatanong namin sila, sabi kasi asr-002055 03:02:01.700 --> 03:02:03.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nila, sir, 20 years na kasi kaming asr-002056 03:02:03.420 --> 03:02:04.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eto yung proseso. asr-002057 03:02:06.420 --> 03:02:07.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, syempre, umaangal din asr-002058 03:02:07.780 --> 03:02:09.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung LLDA. Pero, may hawak ako dito, eh. asr-002059 03:02:10.960 --> 03:02:11.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Nag-issue din asr-002060 03:02:11.660 --> 03:02:13.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng LLDA ng MOA asr-002061 03:02:13.100 --> 03:02:15.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: between Taguig City, asr-002062 03:02:16.360 --> 03:02:17.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA, asr-002063 03:02:18.740 --> 03:02:20.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: DPWH, MMDA. asr-002064 03:02:21.260 --> 03:02:21.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron din asr-002065 03:02:21.640 --> 03:02:23.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: project ang Taguig City with LLDA asr-002066 03:02:23.580 --> 03:02:25.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Department of Agriculture or the Bureau of asr-002067 03:02:25.660 --> 03:02:27.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Fisheries on the water. asr-002068 03:02:27.820 --> 03:02:29.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, hindi siguro reclaimed yun. asr-002069 03:02:29.700 --> 03:02:31.920 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi, high-tech fish pen. asr-002070 03:02:32.060 --> 03:02:33.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Di ba? But, ang point ko, sir, asr-002071 03:02:33.920 --> 03:02:35.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ba't naman hindi susunod lahat asr-002072 03:02:35.440 --> 03:02:36.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung kayong magkaayos? asr-002073 03:02:38.200 --> 03:02:39.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, kung hindi, asr-002074 03:02:40.820 --> 03:02:41.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: so, for example, asr-002075 03:02:41.860 --> 03:02:43.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sabi nyo sa budget hearing na to, asr-002076 03:02:43.480 --> 03:02:45.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: last na to, chairman, no? Sabi nyo sa budget asr-002077 03:02:45.720 --> 03:02:47.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hearing na to, hindi kami magkasundo. asr-002078 03:02:49.640 --> 03:02:51.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, hindi muna kami gagawa ng project asr-002079 03:02:51.700 --> 03:02:52.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng isang taon. asr-002080 03:02:54.180 --> 03:02:55.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pababaya namin mapuno ng basura asr-002081 03:02:55.880 --> 03:02:57.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: or ng informal squatters yung area. asr-002082 03:02:57.680 --> 03:02:59.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: No? Sir, kung taga, asr-002083 03:02:59.700 --> 03:03:01.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa DNR kayo at sir, asr-002084 03:03:01.660 --> 03:03:03.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung medyo familiar ka, alam nyo ba yung asr-002085 03:03:03.620 --> 03:03:05.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'll close with this. Alam nyo yung asr-002086 03:03:05.460 --> 03:03:06.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lupang-ariyanda? asr-002087 03:03:07.860 --> 03:03:09.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Have you heard of that? asr-002088 03:03:10.220 --> 03:03:11.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Lupang-ariyanda? asr-002089 03:03:12.580 --> 03:03:13.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ha? Sir, yeah. asr-002090 03:03:13.900 --> 03:03:15.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Go ahead, sir. So, that asr-002091 03:03:15.360 --> 03:03:17.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: lupang-ariyanda is squatted asr-002092 03:03:17.720 --> 03:03:19.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: area. Maraming mga informal asr-002093 03:03:19.520 --> 03:03:20.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, chairman, ganito yun. asr-002094 03:03:21.940 --> 03:03:23.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bago pala ang congressman. asr-002095 03:03:24.180 --> 03:03:25.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May dispute kasi ang Rizal, asr-002096 03:03:26.420 --> 03:03:27.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taytay at Taguig. asr-002097 03:03:27.460 --> 03:03:29.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Paglampas ng Rizal, asr-002098 03:03:29.700 --> 03:03:31.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pasig River. Sabi nila Rizal na yun. asr-002099 03:03:31.960 --> 03:03:34.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi ng Taguig, pareho naman tayong Rizal eh. asr-002100 03:03:34.460 --> 03:03:36.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Naging Metro Manila. So, meron din kami asr-002101 03:03:36.160 --> 03:03:38.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: dyan. Ang ginawa, asr-002102 03:03:39.820 --> 03:03:40.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naglalagay ng asr-002103 03:03:40.360 --> 03:03:40.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: stilts. asr-002104 03:03:42.180 --> 03:03:44.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tapos ang basura, sinusunog. asr-002105 03:03:44.800 --> 03:03:46.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sasabihin filling material, asr-002106 03:03:46.160 --> 03:03:48.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nilalagay. So, naglakad ako asr-002107 03:03:48.420 --> 03:03:48.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon. asr-002108 03:03:50.480 --> 03:03:52.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Five minutes na ako naglalakad. asr-002109 03:03:52.640 --> 03:03:53.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kasi naman nagtatambak dito. asr-002110 03:03:53.940 --> 03:03:55.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi, sir, tingnan mo yung doon. asr-002111 03:03:55.940 --> 03:03:57.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pagpunta ko doon, wala pang bahay. asr-002112 03:03:57.700 --> 03:03:58.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Stilts. asr-002113 03:03:59.700 --> 03:04:01.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, lampas tuhod. asr-002114 03:04:02.180 --> 03:04:03.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: May tubig pa, basura. asr-002115 03:04:05.140 --> 03:04:05.820 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tinatapon doon. asr-002116 03:04:06.200 --> 03:04:07.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sabi ko, oh, ang liit naman ito. asr-002117 03:04:08.720 --> 03:04:10.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Sir, lahat ng nilakaran mo asr-002118 03:04:10.440 --> 03:04:12.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for the last ten minutes, ganito yan. asr-002119 03:04:12.940 --> 03:04:13.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Natamba ka na. asr-002120 03:04:14.640 --> 03:04:14.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Okay. asr-002121 03:04:15.580 --> 03:04:17.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: The next time na nabalita yan, asr-002122 03:04:18.160 --> 03:04:20.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nagbangka. Bumaha doon asr-002123 03:04:20.060 --> 03:04:21.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng grabe. Nagbangka doon si asr-002124 03:04:21.860 --> 03:04:22.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senator Biason. asr-002125 03:04:24.320 --> 03:04:25.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Iinanap ko eh, kung nasa YouTube pa. asr-002126 03:04:25.820 --> 03:04:28.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung ina ako nagkakamali, that was sometime asr-002127 03:04:28.120 --> 03:04:29.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2001. That was asr-002128 03:04:29.700 --> 03:04:31.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 25 years ago. asr-002129 03:04:31.760 --> 03:04:33.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'm not sure now if that's asr-002130 03:04:33.620 --> 03:04:35.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 50, 100, 150 hectares. asr-002131 03:04:35.740 --> 03:04:37.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, gentlemen, pag hindi asr-002132 03:04:37.600 --> 03:04:39.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: inayos yung lakeshore, asr-002133 03:04:40.320 --> 03:04:41.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ganyan ang nangyayari. asr-002134 03:04:41.960 --> 03:04:43.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And not only in the Philippines. asr-002135 03:04:43.880 --> 03:04:45.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: You go to Southeast Asian, any asr-002136 03:04:45.560 --> 03:04:47.840 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: archipelago, kapag ka may asr-002137 03:04:47.840 --> 03:04:49.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahirapan, ang tubig asr-002138 03:04:49.520 --> 03:04:51.580 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is one of the target areas asr-002139 03:04:51.580 --> 03:04:54.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na either asr-002140 03:04:54.040 --> 03:04:55.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nakastilts or ngayon asr-002141 03:04:55.660 --> 03:04:57.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na may pinagtatambakan. asr-002142 03:04:57.480 --> 03:04:59.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, actually, ang nangyayari sa tagig asr-002143 03:04:59.360 --> 03:05:00.960 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: is to protect the lakeshore. asr-002144 03:05:01.900 --> 03:05:03.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kung hindi, puno na rin ang tao yun asr-002145 03:05:03.380 --> 03:05:05.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: katulad nung nangyayari asr-002146 03:05:05.320 --> 03:05:06.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa areyenda. asr-002147 03:05:07.080 --> 03:05:09.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't say the barangay, but I can point to you asr-002148 03:05:09.480 --> 03:05:11.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a barangay na nangyayari pa rin hanggang asr-002149 03:05:11.400 --> 03:05:13.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ngayon yun. Whether it's in asr-002150 03:05:13.300 --> 03:05:14.520 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Taguig or Rizal or asr-002151 03:05:14.520 --> 03:05:16.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: anywhere else. asr-002152 03:05:17.100 --> 03:05:19.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, thank you for this time, Mr. Chairman. asr-002153 03:05:19.640 --> 03:05:20.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: But I just wanted to say, asr-002154 03:05:21.140 --> 03:05:23.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: we can get to the bottom of any problem asr-002155 03:05:23.100 --> 03:05:23.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: when we talk. asr-002156 03:05:24.580 --> 03:05:25.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-002157 03:05:25.700 --> 03:05:28.000 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero, wala man lang asr-002158 03:05:28.000 --> 03:05:29.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: nag-reach out sa inyo. Pag ako naman, asr-002159 03:05:29.360 --> 03:05:30.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: mag-reach out, baka sabihin, asr-002160 03:05:31.140 --> 03:05:32.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: tinatakot ko kayo. asr-002161 03:05:33.500 --> 03:05:35.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Onyx, never naman kita tinakot. asr-002162 03:05:35.380 --> 03:05:36.760 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Takot nga ako sa tatay mo. asr-002163 03:05:37.180 --> 03:05:37.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-002164 03:05:38.600 --> 03:05:41.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: So, anyway, I'm not gonna asr-002165 03:05:41.460 --> 03:05:42.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: blame anyone and asr-002166 03:05:42.780 --> 03:05:45.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I do know emotions were high here in the asr-002167 03:05:45.680 --> 03:05:47.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Senate and it's time asr-002168 03:05:47.320 --> 03:05:49.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: to move on and solve bigger problems asr-002169 03:05:49.200 --> 03:05:51.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: of our country, including problems with our asr-002170 03:05:51.300 --> 03:05:53.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: economy. But sana nga, asr-002171 03:05:53.160 --> 03:05:54.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: you can send someone, Mr. Chairman. asr-002172 03:05:55.060 --> 03:05:57.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I won't tell you to do this or to do that. asr-002173 03:05:57.260 --> 03:05:58.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: I'll just tell you, do the right thing. asr-002174 03:05:59.360 --> 03:06:01.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pero yun nga, sana, in the quickest asr-002175 03:06:01.480 --> 03:06:02.640 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: possible time, asr-002176 03:06:03.200 --> 03:06:05.700 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: with the asr-002177 03:06:05.700 --> 03:06:07.020 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA and si asr-002178 03:06:07.020 --> 03:06:09.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Secretary Vince Dizon. Kasi ang asr-002179 03:06:09.300 --> 03:06:11.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: LLDA, baliktad naman. asr-002180 03:06:12.040 --> 03:06:13.460 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meeting ng meeting sa amin, asr-002181 03:06:13.720 --> 03:06:14.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: meeting ng meeting asr-002182 03:06:14.540 --> 03:06:17.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa DPWH at saka asr-002183 03:06:17.300 --> 03:06:19.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa city, ngayon magbabudget asr-002184 03:06:19.480 --> 03:06:21.720 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hearing, ayaw na nila makipag-usap. asr-002185 03:06:23.240 --> 03:06:24.280 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ko alam bakit. asr-002186 03:06:25.040 --> 03:06:25.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? asr-002187 03:06:25.240 --> 03:06:26.900 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Go ahead, sir. asr-002188 03:06:27.240 --> 03:06:29.240 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: Your Honor, we... asr-002189 03:06:29.360 --> 03:06:31.240 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: We're happy to asr-002190 03:06:31.240 --> 03:06:33.260 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: inform the Chair and asr-002191 03:06:33.260 --> 03:06:35.400 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: your Honor that we'll be having asr-002192 03:06:35.400 --> 03:06:36.980 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: a coordination meeting with asr-002193 03:06:36.980 --> 03:06:39.520 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: both LLDA, DNR asr-002194 03:06:39.520 --> 03:06:41.040 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: and DPWH. asr-002195 03:06:41.500 --> 03:06:42.780 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Open ba sa lahat yan? asr-002196 03:06:43.880 --> 03:06:45.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Hindi ba dapat meron din asr-002197 03:06:45.240 --> 03:06:46.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: taga-city? Let's invite asr-002198 03:06:46.480 --> 03:06:48.030 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: everybody. Sir, asr-002198-split-2 03:06:48.030 --> 03:06:49.400 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: yes sir. You're welcome, sir. asr-002199 03:06:49.560 --> 03:06:51.280 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: We will welcome the participation asr-002200 03:06:51.280 --> 03:06:53.220 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: of the LGUs. Your staff po is asr-002201 03:06:53.220 --> 03:06:53.770 PRA Assistant General Manager Joseph John M. Literal: most welcome. asr-002201-split-2 03:06:53.770 --> 03:06:54.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: If there's anyone asr-002202 03:06:54.880 --> 03:06:56.880 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: objective, bring them. Kasi asr-002203 03:06:56.880 --> 03:06:59.120 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kaso sa, diba? Ako, asr-002204 03:06:59.360 --> 03:07:01.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kahit wala staff ko, pero yung city naman asr-002205 03:07:01.160 --> 03:07:03.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: siguro, nung nangyari yung asr-002206 03:07:03.140 --> 03:07:05.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: flood control scam, yung asr-002207 03:07:05.260 --> 03:07:07.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: buong sinasabi ng asr-002208 03:07:07.100 --> 03:07:09.380 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: national government, sana in-involve asr-002209 03:07:09.380 --> 03:07:10.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: natin yung lokal. asr-002210 03:07:11.180 --> 03:07:12.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Ngayon, parang asr-002211 03:07:12.320 --> 03:07:15.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ayaw natin yung involve yung asr-002212 03:07:15.160 --> 03:07:17.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung lokal. asr-002213 03:07:17.640 --> 03:07:19.060 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Eh, sila naman nakataalam asr-002214 03:07:19.060 --> 03:07:21.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: doon, asr-002215 03:07:21.380 --> 03:07:23.160 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir. Diba? Okay. Kasi asr-002216 03:07:23.160 --> 03:07:25.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sir, I think it's asr-002217 03:07:25.260 --> 03:07:27.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: about time because if you're asr-002218 03:07:27.240 --> 03:07:29.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: aware, before the pandemic, asr-002219 03:07:29.360 --> 03:07:31.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: muntik nang magkaroon asr-002220 03:07:31.480 --> 03:07:33.220 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng reclamation project ng between asr-002221 03:07:33.220 --> 03:07:35.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 200 to 2,000 asr-002222 03:07:35.320 --> 03:07:37.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: hectares sa Muntinlupa asr-002223 03:07:37.300 --> 03:07:38.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: and Taguig side ng Laguna Lake. asr-002224 03:07:39.800 --> 03:07:41.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Meron pre-proposed dyan na asr-002225 03:07:41.540 --> 03:07:43.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: si, I think asr-002226 03:07:43.680 --> 03:07:45.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: si Architect Palafox, asr-002227 03:07:45.420 --> 03:07:47.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: pero Rizal side na asr-002228 03:07:47.400 --> 03:07:49.980 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: airport. Binubuhay yun asr-002229 03:07:49.980 --> 03:07:51.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: before binag-usapan yung asr-002230 03:07:51.680 --> 03:07:53.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Bulacan, I think it was asr-002231 03:07:53.200 --> 03:07:55.420 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: packaged as possible, possibly asr-002232 03:07:55.420 --> 03:07:57.560 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: a Manipakyao airport asr-002233 03:07:57.560 --> 03:07:59.320 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: at the time. Pano ni asr-002234 03:07:59.360 --> 03:08:00.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Speaker Alvarez. asr-002235 03:08:01.360 --> 03:08:03.680 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And then, etong 2021- asr-002236 03:08:03.680 --> 03:08:05.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: 2022-23, asr-002237 03:08:06.140 --> 03:08:07.400 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: may lumalapit asr-002238 03:08:07.400 --> 03:08:09.180 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: na gustong mag-present. So, asr-002239 03:08:09.280 --> 03:08:11.080 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: eventually, there's gonna be a proposal. asr-002240 03:08:12.300 --> 03:08:12.480 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: And, asr-002241 03:08:14.020 --> 03:08:15.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kung sino man mas magaling sa inyo asr-002242 03:08:15.360 --> 03:08:16.860 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ng LLDA in assessing asr-002243 03:08:16.860 --> 03:08:19.440 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sustainability, public asr-002244 03:08:19.440 --> 03:08:21.620 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: use, etc., okay sa amin yun. asr-002245 03:08:22.600 --> 03:08:23.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Diba? So, Mr. asr-002246 03:08:23.380 --> 03:08:25.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Chairman, I'll leave it at that and thank you asr-002247 03:08:25.360 --> 03:08:27.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: for this. And I hope asr-002248 03:08:27.260 --> 03:08:29.200 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: the ladies and gentlemen appreciate asr-002249 03:08:29.360 --> 03:08:30.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: diba, yung asr-002250 03:08:30.800 --> 03:08:32.740 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: ano to, July pa, asr-002251 03:08:33.400 --> 03:08:35.140 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: September na. Diba? asr-002252 03:08:35.220 --> 03:08:36.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Kawawa naman yung mga taong asr-002253 03:08:36.660 --> 03:08:39.240 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: napabanggit, asr-002254 03:08:39.340 --> 03:08:41.300 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: naiipit, at kawawa naman asr-002255 03:08:41.300 --> 03:08:43.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: yung seating hindi nakakapagsalita para asr-002256 03:08:43.360 --> 03:08:45.540 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: sa, siguro eto, last na asr-002257 03:08:45.540 --> 03:08:47.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: last na talaga. Nag-BBGC ba asr-002258 03:08:47.360 --> 03:08:47.600 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo? asr-002259 03:08:49.620 --> 03:08:51.040 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Pumapasyal ba kayo sa BGC? asr-002260 03:08:51.360 --> 03:08:53.260 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Tagig, oh. Siguro naman nage-enjoy asr-002261 03:08:53.260 --> 03:08:54.660 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: kayo sa city namin. Kaya si asr-002262 03:08:54.660 --> 03:08:57.360 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: siguro naman, konting malasakit asr-002263 03:08:57.360 --> 03:08:59.340 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: din pabalik sa isang siyudad. asr-002264 03:08:59.360 --> 03:09:01.500 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Na nagmamalasakit asr-002265 03:09:01.500 --> 03:09:02.800 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: din sa lahat. Thank you, Mr. asr-002266 03:09:02.940 --> 03:09:04.100 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Thank you, Chairman Lopez. asr-002267 03:09:05.540 --> 03:09:05.970 Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano: Po. asr-002267-split-2 03:09:05.970 --> 03:09:07.040 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Thank you and asr-002268 03:09:07.040 --> 03:09:09.240 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: sorry for any inconvenience asr-002269 03:09:09.240 --> 03:09:11.480 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: in the miscommunication, if any. asr-002270 03:09:12.860 --> 03:09:13.660 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you. asr-002271 03:09:14.460 --> 03:09:15.300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, asr-002272 03:09:15.460 --> 03:09:16.960 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Minority Leader. Thank you. asr-002273 03:09:18.300 --> 03:09:19.400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Anyway, there asr-002274 03:09:19.400 --> 03:09:21.260 Senator Erwin Tulfo: being no other questions, asr-002275 03:09:21.640 --> 03:09:23.460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: the fiscal year 2027 asr-002276 03:09:23.460 --> 03:09:25.380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: proposed budget of the asr-002277 03:09:25.380 --> 03:09:26.940 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Philippine Reclamation Authority asr-002278 03:09:26.940 --> 03:09:29.160 Senator Erwin Tulfo: is now or will be submitted. asr-002279 03:09:29.360 --> 03:09:30.700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, plenary consideration. asr-002280 03:09:31.540 --> 03:09:33.420 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Subject, of course, to discussions asr-002281 03:09:33.420 --> 03:09:35.620 Senator Erwin Tulfo: and questions from my asr-002282 03:09:35.620 --> 03:09:36.840 Senator Erwin Tulfo: colleagues in the plenary. asr-002283 03:09:37.340 --> 03:09:39.020 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I hope you'll be prepared by then. asr-002284 03:09:39.800 --> 03:09:41.500 Senator Erwin Tulfo: And submission of asr-002285 03:09:41.500 --> 03:09:42.980 Senator Erwin Tulfo: requested documents. Thank you. asr-002286 03:09:43.240 --> 03:09:45.300 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Thank you, Senator Erwin. asr-002287 03:09:45.440 --> 03:09:46.440 PRA Chair Alex Lopez: Thank you so much. asr-002287-split-2 03:09:46.440 --> 03:09:47.600 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Yes, I would like to thank asr-002288 03:09:47.600 --> 03:09:49.520 Senator Erwin Tulfo: the officials and employees of the asr-002289 03:09:49.520 --> 03:09:51.260 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Philippine Reclamation Authority asr-002290 03:09:51.260 --> 03:09:53.300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: for their budget briefing to this committee. asr-002291 03:09:53.900 --> 03:09:55.580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: And I would like to thank Senator asr-002292 03:09:55.580 --> 03:09:57.460 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Cayetano for asr-002293 03:09:57.460 --> 03:09:59.340 Senator Erwin Tulfo: attending this budget briefing. Thank you. asr-002294 03:09:59.360 --> 03:10:01.580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: This budget briefing is hereby suspended. asr-002295 03:10:01.840 --> 03:10:02.720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Maraming salamat po.