FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 1 Part 2

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our sources

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of growth. Of course, we want

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to promote investments, strategic

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investments with building

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up our local industries.

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We also want to

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promote

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our export sector.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

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Ngayon naman, ang kasama sa bawat

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gastos na ito,

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mula sa ating household final consumption

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expenditure,

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ay ang total spending

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ng mga households pagdating

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sa kanilang paggastos

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sa mga goods and services

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na kanilang direkta na kinukonsumo.

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At

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nakadikit, nakalakip

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sa mga ito ay ang patong-patong

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na buwis na binabayaran

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tulad ng 12%

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na value-added tax.

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Kung kinikilala mismo na ating

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pamahalaan na labis

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ang pagdepende ng ating

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economy mismo

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sa household consumption

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at serbisyo,

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ang patuloy na pagpataw

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ng patong-patong na buwi,

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gaya ng VAT, ay lalong

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nagpapahina rin sa purchasing power

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ng mamamayan.

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Pagamat may mga proposals ngayon na

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mapataas yung threshold

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pagdating sa

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personal tax income,

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may mga ganun pong mga

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proposals, pero

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hindi pa yan napapasa ngayon.

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At ang meron ngayon ay

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yung

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patong-patong na mga buwis

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na pinapasan ng ordinaryong

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mamamayan. Sa katunayan,

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mas mataas ho ang ating VAT

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collection ngayon, lalong-lalo na

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sa diesel at sa iba pang

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mga petroleum products, dulot

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ng pagtaas ng presyo ng mga

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bilihin. Sa

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2027, inaasahan na

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makakolekta ang pamahalaan ng

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860 billion pesos

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mula sa VAT. Mula

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sa 2025, yan ho

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ay nasa 609.5%

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ng 6 billion. Ngunit

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sa 2027, yan

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ay nakikita natin

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natataas ng 860

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billion pesos. Yan ho

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ang ating tunguhin. At katulad

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ng nasabi ng ating sponsor,

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may mga plano para mag-diversify

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ng pwedeng

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mga sources

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ng paglago ng ating

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ekonomiya. Ngunit sa ngayon,

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nakikita natin na napakabagal

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at wala tayo

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sa ganung direksyon.

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Isang ayon naman,

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Madam Speaker, sa

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2027 Budget of Expenditures

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and Sources of Financing,

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yung nabanggit ko kanina na inaasahan

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natin ang makolekta mula sa VAT

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na 860 billion pesos,

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ibig sabihin ba meron tayong

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inaasahan na 97.6

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billion pesos o

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12.8% na

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pagtaas sa koleksyon mula sa VAT

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sa loob lamang ng ekon.

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Ibig sabihin po yung ating

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projected na increase

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sa koleksyon ng VAT

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ay may pagtaas na

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97.6 billion pesos.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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Madam Speaker,

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DEV's position would be

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probably the DOF would be

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better, in a better

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position to answer

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with revenue projection,

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particular to the VAT.

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Samantalang sa supply side naman,

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mula taong 2023,

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hanggang 2025,

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1.8% lang ang ambag

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ng agriculture, forestry, at

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fishing sa ating GDP growth

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na sinundan ng industry

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na nasa 19.8%.

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Ang Pilipinas,

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napakaraming din po natin, nasa

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10 million yung ating mga registered

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na farmers and fisher folk.

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Ngunit napakaliit ng kanilang

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contribution sa GDP

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dahil na rin sa maraming mga

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dinadaing na mga issue,

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kulad ng mataas na cost of food,

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production, nandyan din ang

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sunod-sunod na kalamidad,

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kulang na kulang din yung mga

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subsidiya na available sa kanila

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para makapagpatuloy sa production.

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Ngayon, sa

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assessment po ba ng DEV-DEV,

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anong dahilan

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kung bakit napakalaki

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ng binagsak ng ating

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agrikultura sa paglago

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ng ating ekonomiya?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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Madam Speaker, for 2025

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alone, are we looking at

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multi-year?

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Just for clarification, so we can pull up the data.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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From the data from

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the years 2023 to 2025.

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Napakababa po nito.

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Nasa 1.8%

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lamang.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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Thank you.

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Madam Speaker,

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it's a combination of

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external factors at the same

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time, those that are germane

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to the agricultural sector.

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For one, in 2023

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to 2024, there was

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El Nino event.

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So that is probably one of the

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main causes of

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the decline in productivity

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and production in

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the agriculture and the fishery sector.

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Besides that,

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of course,

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Typhoon Taeng happened

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in 2023.

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There's a myriad of typhoons

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that hit

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not just rice

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centers but all of our agricultural

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communities.

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Besides that, the DEV-DEV is

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citing also that in general

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there is a persistent

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problem of low

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productivity in the agricultural

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fishery sector.

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Also, declining farm sizes.

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Yields

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are variable and volatile.

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So these are just

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some of the reasons why

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there is a decline

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at least from 2023 to 2025.

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Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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Ang suliran natin, Madam Speaker,

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hindi sinasalamin

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ang ating pondo.

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Kung gano'ng pinakailangan supportahan

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ang lokal na agrikultura,

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ang ating lokal na produkton. Halimbawa,

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namanggit ng ating Distinguished Director

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yung tungkol sa

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impact ng extreme weather events.

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Lalong-lalo na ngayon, pinaghahandaan

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natin for El Nino.

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Pero hindi mo sa malinaw na makita

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sa pondo ng Department of Agriculture,

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sa ibang mga

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relevant pa na agencies,

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kung paano natin yan natutukunan.

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Pangalawa, nabanggit din yung mga

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factors ng

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napakataas na cost of production,

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lalong-lalo na sa paggamit ng crudo

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na parehong ginagamit ng mga magsasaka

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at ng mga may ngita. Hindi rin natin

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nakita ng malinaw nasan ba yung mga

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fuel subsidies, nasan ba yung

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tuloy-tuloy na assistance para sa

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farmer and petro.

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Nandyan din po yung

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tungkol sa factor

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din ng pag-review

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natin. Last year pa lang sinabi

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na natin, nabubusisi natin

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yung liberalization

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pagdating sa rice production

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at yung pag-

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itiyak ng rice self-sufficiency

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dito sa ating bansa.

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Ngunit muli, hindi natin nakita

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sa ating national budget

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na buong-buo yung supporta natin para

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sa hindi lang sa bigas

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na itiyakin ang self-sufficiency

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pero mapababa mismo yung ating

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food import dependence

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na nakita natin for the past

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a few years, lalong lumaki

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sa mga pangunahing pagkain

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ng mamamayang Pilipinas.

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Sabi rin Madam Speaker ng DepDiv na

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8.8 million na mga

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Pilipino ang

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lifted out of poverty

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matapos bumaba ang poverty incidence

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mula 18.1%

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noong 2021, tungo sa

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9.7%

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noong 2025. Maaari po

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bang linawi ng DepDiv

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kung anong ibig sabihin natin na

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nasa 8.8 million

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na mga Pilipino ang aktual

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

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na nagkaroon pa

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Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000237

ng matatag at

00:08:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000238

sapat na kita o

00:08:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000239

nangangahulugan lamang ito ng

00:08:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000240

kanilang kita ay lumagpas

00:08:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000241

sa naitakda na poverty threshold.

00:08:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000244

Yes,

00:08:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000245

Madam Speaker, the DepDev

00:08:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000246

confirms that there

00:08:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000247

are 8.8 million

00:09:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000248

individuals

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000249

who were lifted

00:09:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000250

out of poverty from 2021 to 2025.

00:09:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000251

The definition of that would be

00:09:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000252

they crossed the income threshold

00:09:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000253

with regards to the poverty line.

00:09:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000254

Yes, maraming salamat po.

00:09:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000255

At sa totoo lang,

00:09:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000256

sinabi rin sa atin dito ng DSWD

00:09:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000257

para po sila sa ating budget.

00:09:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000258

Sa katunayan, yung maski yung mga

00:09:28Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000259

nakalagpas na doon sa poverty threshold,

00:09:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000260

mga near poor ay talagang

00:09:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000261

sobrang mga nangangailangan pa rin

00:09:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000262

at marami ay walang sapat na kabuhayan,

00:09:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000263

walang sapat na pinagkakakitaan.

00:09:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000264

Kaya nga naman ay masasabi natin

00:09:44Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000265

na marami pa ring mga programa

00:09:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000266

ang kinakailangan

00:09:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000267

para matiyak na yung mga sinasabi

00:09:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000268

ng mga nakatawid

00:09:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000269

ay mananatiling makatawid.

00:09:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000270

Kaya po,

00:09:53Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000271

Ano ba yung mga garantiya at mga programa na magtitiyak na yung mga kababayan natin na sinasabi natin na wala na doon sa poverty threshold, na sa tingin ho natin ay napakababa pa rin doon sa kasalukuyang mataas na presyo ng mga bilihin,

00:10:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000272

Ay mananatili sila na may mas mataas na opportunities na magkaroon ng disenting sahod at trabaho.

00:10:26Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000273

Sa katunayan din, Madam Speaker, noong pumarap din dito ang DOLE, sinabi rin natin sa kanila yung concern din ng isa nating kasamahan tungkol sa mababang sahod.

00:10:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000274

Sa na-report sa atin ng DepDev, sinabi nila na ang poverty threshold ngayon nasa 16,842 para sa pamilya ng lima sa NCR.

00:10:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000275

At sa labas naman ito, nasa 14,634. Sa NCR pa lang, nasa 488 pesos lang po yan kada araw.

00:10:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000276

Ngunit, kung sa NCR, medyo konting mas aangat yung minimum wage doon sa 488.

00:11:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000277

Pero kung sa labas po ng NCR, nasa labing dalawa na region yung minimum wage na mas mababa sa threshold ng DepDev.

00:11:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000278

At kumbaga, hindi talaga sapat na isa lang yung nagtatrabaho.

00:11:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000279

Kailangan pa maraming nagtatrabaho o may dagdag na pagkakakitaan yung mga miyembro ng isang household.

00:11:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000280

At makikita natin yan doon sa presentation din ng DepDev na pagamat meron tayong nasa 4 million jobs generated from 2020 to date,

00:11:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000281

marami naman dito ay underemployed.

00:11:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000282

Kumbaga, nagahanap pa ng dagdag na trabaho o kaya naman nadagdag doon sa kanilang current na pinagkakitaan

00:11:54Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000283

o kaya naman ay nagtatrabaho ng less than 40 hours per week.

00:11:58Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000284

Ibig sabihin, talagang nagahanap ng dagdag, dagdag na kita bilang pangsuporta sa kanilang mga pamilya.

00:12:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000285

Ngayon naman po, meron tayong...

00:12:11Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000286

Ito, napakalaki ng pondo natin para sa emergency assistance tulad ng TUPAD, ng AEC, ng MAEFIP para sa iba't ibang mga pangangailangan.

00:12:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000287

Pero, konti lang yung pondo para doon sa mga programang pagpapanatili sa kanila doon sa labas ng poverty.

00:12:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000288

Halimbawa, yung Sustainable Livelihood Program, yung Micro-Small-Medium Enterprise Development Program.

00:12:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000289

Sobrang konti lang yan, konting turot doon sa buong nabanggit natin ng mga programa na nasa daang-daang bilyon na.

00:12:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000290

Kaya po, dito pa lang sa tingin ko, malaki na yung problema natin kung paano ba natin matitiyak na yung mga nakatawid ay hindi babalik doon sa lubos na kahirapan at gutom.

00:13:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000291

Ngayon naman, nais ko pong magtanong tungkol sa mga public-private partnership projects na meron.

00:13:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000292

Halimbawa po, sa Naiya PPP Project, isa sa mga natagurian na fastest approved PPP proposal sa kasaysayan ng Pilipinas.

00:13:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000293

Pagkatapos ng six weeks na evaluation, ito po ay naaprobahan ng NEDA noon, ngayon po ay Dep-Dev Board na.

00:13:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000294

Ang tanong ko, Madam Speaker, bago po ba ito maaprobahan, nagkaroon ba ng consultation sa mga affected stakeholders?

00:13:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000295

Ano ang naging mekanism ng consultation? Ilang stakeholder consultations ba ang naisagawa?

00:13:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000296

Sino-sino ang nakonsulta? At paano isinama sa concession agreement ang kanilang mga recommendations?

00:14:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000297

Madam Speaker, tumatakbo po yung oras ko kahit hinihintay pa po natin.

00:14:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000298

Ang ating distinct sponsor.

00:14:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000299

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

00:14:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000300

So, in terms of the creation of the feasibility study, that is where the consultations for all local stakeholders were relevant to that particular project.

00:14:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000301

That is where it's conducted.

00:14:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000302

So, for the record, nagkaroon po ng konsulta.

00:14:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000303

Yes, Madam Speaker, as for the Dep-Dev.

00:14:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000304

Ilang stakeholder consultations po yung nangyari. At lahat po ba ng affected na mga sectors sa na-IA ay ating nakonsulta?

00:14:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000305

At naipasok po ba yung kanilang mga...

00:15:00Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000306

rekomendasyon sa naging outcome ng pag-aproba ng proyekto na ito.

00:15:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000307

Madam Speaker, the DepDev is currently pulling out all details regarding to the project.

00:15:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000308

So, we will just wait and we will submit to our distinguished colleague.

00:15:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000309

Yes, Madam Speaker.

00:15:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000310

Abangan po natin ang ulat at submission mula sa ating distinguished sponsor at sa DepDev.

00:15:56Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000311

Ngayon naman po ay kaugnay ng lumalaganap na privatization at mollification ng mga palengke.

00:16:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000312

Nasa palisiya ba ng pamahalaan na maipaubaya sa malalaking retailers yung pagpapaunlad ng ating public markets ngayon sa buong bansa?

00:16:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000313

Yes.

00:16:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000314

But the particular circumstance of that, Madam Speaker, that would be under the purview of the local government unit.

00:16:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000315

Pagamat, anan dyan po ang responsibilidad ng local government units noong pagdating sa market administration,

00:16:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000316

anan dyan din naman yung role halimbawa ng PPP Center pagdating sa pagtitiyak ng mga requirements at ng mga proposals na ito, lalong-lalo na sa mga USPs.

00:16:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000317

Para matiyak na ito po ay hindi lang sumusunod sa mga requirements pero tumutugon din sa interest ng publiko, yung mutual benefits po ng publiko pati po ng privado pagdating sa ganitong mga proyekto.

00:17:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000318

At ang panawagan ng ating mga public markets, public and people partners, lalong-lalo na sa public markets na may mga vendors associations, retailers associations.

00:17:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000319

Talagang people-powered yung ating mga public markets at sila po ay handang-handa kumbaga tuminding para maisalba ang kanilang public markets.

00:17:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000320

Dahil nakita din natin, Madam Speaker, sa maraming lugar na may PPP ang kanilang mga merkado.

00:17:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000321

Lalong-lalo na pag malalaking retailers yung pumasok sa kanilang mga markets, namamatay talaga yung mga maliliit na mga manininda.

00:17:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000322

Ngayon naman, tungkol po sa monitoring ng PPP.

00:17:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000323

Meron po ba kayong evaluation pagdating sa mga PPP projects?

00:18:00Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000324

Nakikita niyo po ba halimbawa sa case ng naiya privatization na kapag tumataas po yung fees sa airport o halimbawa po nung tayo ay humarap sa oil price shock,

00:18:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000325

lahat po ng ka-up airports nagkaroon ng pag-suspend ng mga increases sa kanilang mga passenger service charges.

00:18:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000326

Pagdating naman sa rental fees ng vendors, marami pong mga PPPs na mga markets nakabatay na yung kanilang increases sa rental fees at iba't-ibang mga fees.

00:18:44Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000327

Hindi na po sa LGU pero nakabatay na kung sino private nila na partner.

00:18:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000328

Meron po bang monitoring?

00:18:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000329

Hindi na po bang monitoring at evaluation ang PPP center pagdating sa ganitong mga kaso at meron ba tayong mechanism for redress of grievances in these instances?

00:19:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000330

Madam Speaker, it would depend on the project. It's a project by project. It's a case by case basis.

00:19:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000331

It would depend on what the provisions are in the terms of contract of the project.

00:19:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000332

However, I was assured...

00:19:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000333

I was assured by the DEF-DEF that at least in terms of seeking redress just in case there are problems or challenges then there is a mechanism that...

00:19:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000334

There is a mechanism established where those who have grievances can report directly to the PPP center.

00:19:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000335

Sa ngayon po ba meron kayong mga kaso na hinahawakan tungkol dito na halimbawa ang isang partner LGU ay nais na pong putulin,

00:19:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000336

kung baga wakasan na yung kanilang kontrata na napirmahan sa panahon na hindi po nasusunod yung mga dapat na basunod na nakasaalang-alang pa rin yung interest ng publiko.

00:20:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000337

Sabi nga natin, di ba, partnership, pagdating sa mutual interest, mutual benefits, at hindi po yung isa lang ang pinakanakikinabang habang nasasakripisyo yung interest ng publiko.

00:20:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000338

Yes, Madam Speaker.

00:20:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000339

The PPP center has, it's handling cases where there are complaints with regards to privatization projects.

00:20:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000340

We will just furnish you a copy because it's quite voluminous.

00:20:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000341

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, at nananawagan din po ang representative ito dahil sa mga narinig natin ng mga issues at binanggit din ng ating sponsor na may mga complaints sa ngayon na hinaharap ang PPP center.

00:20:48Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000342

Sa tingin ko, panahon na rin.

00:20:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000343

So, ma-repaso, ma-review ng kapulungan na ito ang ating PPP center.

00:20:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000344

So, alam ko po, relatibong bago ito pero nung naipasan natin yung bago, di ba, marami din pong mga sumulpot na mga issues, mga concerns na nasa tungkulin natin na pakinggan at bigyan ng aksyon.

00:21:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000345

Yun lamang sa ngayon. Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

00:21:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-000346

Majority Leader.

00:21:16Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-000348

Madam Speaker, may we call on the Honorable Rene Luis Co.

00:21:20Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-000349

Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list for her interpellation.

00:21:25Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000350

Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list is now recognized for her interpellation.

00:21:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000351

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening to our distinguished sponsor at 10 p.m.

00:21:37Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000352

Madam Speaker, my question is in relation to the Philippine Development Plan 2023 to 2028,

00:21:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000353

and we'd like to be enlightened as to...

00:21:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000354

some parts of it and even updates given that the funding that we're discussing

00:21:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000355

will be about the second to the last year for the implementation of the Philippine Development Plan.

00:22:05Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000356

Madam Speaker, within the Philippine Development Plan 2023 to 2028, I quote,

00:22:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000357

it is said that education policies have undermined better performing private schools

00:22:17Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000358

as seen in the declining share...

00:22:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000359

in private school enrollment, end quote.

00:22:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000360

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, what does this mean?

00:22:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000361

Is this saying na negative key performance indicator ang pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools?

00:22:39Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000362

For reference, this is page 45 of the Philippine Development Plan.

00:22:59Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000363

Madam Speaker, if my time po...

00:25:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000373

Madam Speaker, while the Department is pulling up the justifications behind it,

00:25:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000374

Really, in terms of the declining share of private school enrollment,

00:25:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000375

it's really because this was crafted in 2022,

00:26:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000376

and during the pandemic period, a lot of private schools closed down.

00:26:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000377

So, at least on that part.

00:27:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000379

With indulgence of our distinguished colleague, the Department is now pulling up the justification behind this statement. But rest assured, at least on the part of DepDev,

00:27:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000380

this is not, it won't be an indicator of development. It is quite an [unclear] statement to make.

00:27:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000380-split-2

At least on the part of this representation, that's not really aligned also with what the Philippine Development Plan endeavors to do.

00:27:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000381

I agree, Madam Speaker.

00:27:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000383

Madam Speaker, under Article 14, Section 4 of the 1987 Constitution,

00:27:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000384

it says that the state recognizes the complementary roles of public and private institutions in the education system

00:28:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000385

and shall exercise reasonable supervision and regulation of all educational institutions.

00:28:11Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000386

We are alarmed by this statement, Madam Speaker,

00:28:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000387

because EDCOM 2 has noted the trend in state universities and colleges,

00:28:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000388

as well as even basic educational institutions of the increase in enrollment in public educational institutions,

00:28:31Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000389

especially because of the advent of the universal access to quality tertiary education.

00:28:37Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000390

So, to see this statement is alarming because it is saying,

00:28:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000391

and we're still continuously wondering what it's saying particularly,

00:28:47Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000392

is it saying na,

00:28:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000393

yung pagbaba ng kalidad ng administrasyon ay sanhi ng pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools?

00:28:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000394

Or is it saying na ang pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools

00:29:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000395

ay may implication din po ba ng pagbaba ng kalidad ng edukasyon?

00:29:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000396

And does that not violate the complementarity principle of private and public education institutions as provided by the Constitution?

00:29:15Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000397

So, can the Department submit a written explanation?

00:29:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000398

So, can the Department submit a written explanation for this statement which is in the Philippine Development Plan?

00:29:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000399

And if it would like to roll back maybe on that statement so as to not violate the complementarity principle of public and private educational institutions?

00:29:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000400

Madam Speaker?

00:29:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000401

Yes, Madam Speaker, Honorable Co.

00:29:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000402

So, that will comply, particularly with the detailed justification of why this,

00:29:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000403

ah, statement was put inside the Philippine Development Plan.

00:29:53Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000404

Yes.

00:29:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000405

Madam Speaker, just as a final note,

00:29:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000406

ah, it has not escaped this representation.

00:30:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000407

attention that there has been an increase in policies wherein there is an intent to roll back

00:30:11Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000408

support of the state to educational institutions, whether it be for pushing for public-private

00:30:19Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000409

partnerships in the creation of classrooms or the pushing of public-private partnerships

00:30:25Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000410

in creating commercial spaces in higher educational institutions so as they could be

00:30:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000411

fiscally autonomous and thereby, at the end of the day, just provide justification for

00:30:41Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000412

either cutting or lessening the budget to be allocated to them, which to this representation

00:30:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000413

might be averse to the targets provided in the PDP itself.

00:30:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000414

Under this,

00:30:55Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000415

I think page 48, it also says that government spending on education will be increased to 4-6%

00:31:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000416

of GDP in line with the Education 2030 Framework for Action. So, unfortunately, it is also this

00:31:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000417

um

00:31:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000418

the provision of the NEP that the GDP to budget ratio to education has been,

00:31:25Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000419

lessened to around 3.95%, so I'd like to ask, kamusta po ba yung paggamit natin ng target na po ito na 6% of the GDP sana yung naka-allot sa education, given that we only have 2 years left to meet the targets of PDP? Madam Speaker.

00:31:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000420

Yes, thank you Madam Speaker.

00:31:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000421

Well, at least in the Philippine Development Plan,

00:31:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000422

as has been the policy of the national government,

00:31:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000423

education has to be a priority.

00:32:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000424

Unfortunately,

00:32:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000425

DepDev's mandate is really just to formulate policies and recommend

00:32:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000426

those policies, but it doesn't have power over the actual allocation of budget

00:32:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000427

for the education sector.

00:32:19Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000428

May this representation ask, how has the department

00:32:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000429

either

00:32:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000430

formulated a plan

00:32:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000431

or forwarded

00:32:29Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000432

the meeting of the target

00:32:31Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000433

that there ought to be 6%

00:32:33Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000434

of the budget

00:32:35Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000435

allocated, equivalent

00:32:37Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000436

to our GDP, allocated

00:32:39Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000437

to education? So,

00:32:41Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000438

as we know, it could have went to classrooms,

00:32:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000439

it could have went to feeding programs,

00:32:45Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000440

it could have went to the many capital outlay

00:32:47Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000441

requests of our

00:32:49Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000442

state universities and colleges.

00:32:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000443

Unfortunately, what is

00:32:53Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000444

still observable

00:32:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000445

is that 49

00:32:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000446

out of the 113

00:32:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000447

state universities and colleges

00:33:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000448

suffered

00:33:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000449

a lowering

00:33:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000450

of their budgets compared to last year,

00:33:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000451

we call it a budget cut.

00:33:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000452

We also noticed the lowering,

00:33:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000453

a historic high

00:33:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000454

of the Department of Education

00:33:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000455

compared to last year.

00:33:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000456

So, we'd like to be enlightened

00:33:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000457

how has the department

00:33:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000458

pushed forward for the meeting

00:33:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000459

of this target?

00:33:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000460

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

00:33:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000473

Madam Speaker, most of the policies

00:33:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000474

that the DepDev

00:33:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000475

has recommended

00:33:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000476

all were recommended

00:34:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000477

to the EDCOM, the Education Committee.

00:34:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000478

So,

00:34:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000479

at least the DepDev is very

00:34:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000480

active, not just as

00:34:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000481

part of the Council, but

00:34:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000482

even the Technical Secretariat.

00:34:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000483

Madam Speaker,

00:34:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000484

of course,

00:34:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000485

we appreciate the work of

00:34:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000486

the DepDev in recommending to EDCOM,

00:34:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000487

but,

00:34:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000488

perhaps, it ought to also

00:34:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000489

consider

00:34:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000490

what are the economic

00:34:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000491

effects, the development effects,

00:34:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000492

the social effects as well,

00:34:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000493

if the targets

00:34:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000494

provided in the Philippine Development Plan

00:34:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000495

are not met.

00:34:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000496

So, for now,

00:34:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000497

I do not,

00:34:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000498

this representation has not seen

00:34:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000499

from EDCOM

00:34:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000500

to any particular

00:34:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000501

targeting of

00:34:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000502

a budgetary

00:34:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000503

threshold of 6%

00:34:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000504

equivalent

00:34:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000505

to our GDP

00:34:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000506

that is only found

00:35:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000507

in the Philippine Development Plan

00:35:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000508

in the 2030

00:35:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000509

framework,

00:35:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000510

Education 2030 Framework for Action

00:35:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000511

and even in this representation's

00:35:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000512

bills, resolutions,

00:35:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000513

privileged speeches

00:35:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000514

in the

00:35:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000515

August Chamber. So, Madam Speaker,

00:35:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000516

we look forward to

00:35:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000517

at least the report

00:35:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000518

that was requested by

00:35:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000519

this representation today,

00:35:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000520

and we'd like to reiterate again

00:35:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000521

that we notice

00:35:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000522

the trend where the

00:35:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000523

government favors instead

00:35:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000524

the interests of

00:35:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000525

big businesses

00:35:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000526

or even the private sector

00:35:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000527

over that of the

00:35:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000528

public investment

00:35:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000529

on the education

00:35:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000530

of the Filipino youth

00:35:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000531

should this trend continue,

00:35:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000532

whether it finds

00:35:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000533

justification or support with this statement.

00:35:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000534

Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

00:35:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000535

we look forward to that report.

00:35:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000536

My next and last line of questioning

00:36:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000537

would be about

00:36:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000538

the Critical Minerals

00:36:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000539

Memorandum of Understanding.

00:36:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000540

We are

00:36:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000541

one of the several

00:36:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000542

countries with which

00:36:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000543

the United States has entered

00:36:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000544

into a Critical Minerals

00:36:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000545

Agreement after it has

00:36:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000546

conducted several Critical Minerals

00:36:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000547

Commits and Meetings

00:36:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000548

wherein they

00:36:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000549

sought to

00:36:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000550

enter into agreements

00:36:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000551

or arrangements

00:36:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000552

where the United States and the Philippines

00:36:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000553

both have

00:36:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000554

first look

00:36:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000555

preferential treatment over

00:36:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000556

any critical minerals to be

00:36:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000557

explored or

00:36:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000558

to be exported

00:36:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000559

in both countries.

00:36:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000560

But Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

00:36:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000561

this representation has had the opportunity

00:36:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000562

to look at the provisions

00:36:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000563

and it looks like

00:36:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000564

we are giving great preference

00:36:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000565

to how the United States

00:36:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000566

may have

00:37:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000567

first access

00:37:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000568

to our minerals,

00:37:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000569

materials,

00:37:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000570

that could

00:37:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000571

tie

00:37:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000572

our opportunities

00:37:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000573

and even

00:37:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000574

engagements that we could enter into freely

00:37:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000575

with other states.

00:37:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000576

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may I ask if the

00:37:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000577

Department of Development has reviewed

00:37:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000578

the possible impacts and or trade-offs

00:37:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000579

of this Memorandum of

00:37:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000580

Understanding?

00:37:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000581

Madam Speaker,

00:37:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000582

just to be clear,

00:37:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000583

it's the Critical Minerals Agreement

00:37:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000584

between the Philippines and the US?

00:37:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000585

Yes.

00:37:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000586

Just to give details

00:37:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000587

about this

00:37:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000588

MoU,

00:37:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000589

this Memorandum of Understanding,

00:37:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000590

it was signed in February 4, 2026.

00:37:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000591

The signatories are

00:37:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000592

then

00:38:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000593

DEN Secretary

00:38:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000594

and Secretary

00:38:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000595

Jacob Helberg.

00:38:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000596

So, at least on the part of

00:38:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000597

DepDev, it's not really involved with

00:38:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000598

this

00:38:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000599

proposed MoU.

00:38:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000600

The question,

00:38:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000601

Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

00:38:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000602

that this representation is posing,

00:38:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000603

whether the Department has

00:38:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000604

had the opportunity to review

00:38:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000605

the possible impacts and trade-offs

00:38:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000606

from this agreement in terms

00:38:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000607

of Philippine development.

00:38:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000608

Because as it stands,

00:38:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000609

it's this

00:38:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000610

representation's analysis that it will

00:38:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000611

benefit

00:38:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000612

the development of the United

00:38:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000613

States in how

00:38:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000614

it can have a grasp

00:38:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000615

on critical minerals,

00:38:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000616

its processing,

00:38:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000617

its manufacture of different

00:38:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000618

materials relating

00:38:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000619

to it across the

00:38:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000620

world. How will that impact Philippine

00:38:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000621

development, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

00:38:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000622

Yes. Thank you,

00:39:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000623

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Given

00:39:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000624

that it's only a Memorandum of Understanding,

00:39:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000625

this particular

00:39:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000626

MoU, DepDev

00:39:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000627

has yet to review

00:39:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000628

the effects

00:39:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000629

of it.

00:39:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000630

But Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

00:39:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000631

this representation has noticed

00:39:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000632

that just last month,

00:39:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000633

the Office of the President,

00:39:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000634

Malacanang, signed

00:39:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000635

Executive Order No.

00:39:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000636

122, which

00:39:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000637

creates a critical minerals

00:39:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000638

framework never before seen

00:39:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000639

in our jurisdiction.

00:39:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000640

But just after

00:39:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000641

there was a

00:39:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000642

signing this year of

00:39:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000643

a critical minerals agreement with the United States,

00:39:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000644

we're now lining up

00:39:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000645

essentially

00:39:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000646

where we can mine these critical minerals,

00:39:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000647

what processes are going to be

00:39:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000648

involved, who are going to be our partners,

00:39:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000649

etc. It seems like,

00:39:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000650

Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

00:39:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000651

that this

00:39:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000652

EO 122 is triggered

00:40:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000653

by the attention we're putting

00:40:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000654

into, and of course, by

00:40:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000655

the commitment

00:40:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000656

or understanding we have with the United

00:40:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000657

States on critical

00:40:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000658

minerals. So this surely

00:40:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000659

has to have impact on Philippine development.

00:40:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000660

Has the DepDev not

00:40:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000661

provided any

00:40:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000662

input in the creation

00:40:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000663

of EO 122?

00:40:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000664

Thank you,

00:40:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000665

distinguished colleague. As of

00:40:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000666

today, the DepDev has not

00:40:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000667

yet conducted an assessment

00:40:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000668

or review with regards to

00:40:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000669

EO 122.

00:40:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000670

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, if it would be

00:40:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000671

possible,

00:40:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000672

this representation would like the

00:40:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000673

Department to look at EO 122

00:40:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000674

and

00:40:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000675

of course, the impacts

00:40:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000676

of this understanding

00:40:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000677

and the subsequent

00:40:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000678

action

00:40:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000679

by our Executive

00:40:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000680

Department that will

00:40:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000681

be followed by

00:41:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000682

different agencies to be

00:41:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000683

instructed, directed to

00:41:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000684

fall in line with the critical minerals

00:41:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000685

framework because

00:41:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000686

I have heard in a separate

00:41:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000687

budget discussion on

00:41:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000688

the DNR that there are

00:41:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000689

many representatives here that

00:41:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000690

abhor mining in

00:41:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000691

their districts. But

00:41:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000692

if EO 122

00:41:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

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identifies

00:41:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000694

some, if I'm not mistaken,

00:41:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000695

either 90,000 or 900,000

00:41:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000696

hectares of

00:41:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000697

land that can

00:41:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000698

be the subject of

00:41:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000699

mining application

00:41:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000700

permits because

00:41:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000701

they may contain critical minerals,

00:41:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000702

that will have

00:41:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000703

insurmountable impacts on our

00:41:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000704

development, whether that be

00:41:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000705

regional or

00:41:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000706

at a national scale.

00:41:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000707

So the Department ought to

00:41:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000708

not only be

00:41:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000709

looped in in these discussions

00:41:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000710

but even on top of it.

00:42:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000711

So as to ensure that

00:42:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000712

any development has to happen

00:42:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000713

at the

00:42:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000714

not at the

00:42:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000715

for the Philippines,

00:42:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000716

for the Filipino people and not

00:42:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000717

at the behest or for

00:42:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000718

a foreign state.

00:42:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000719

So Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

00:42:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000720

any report or

00:42:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000721

of their findings would be appreciated

00:42:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000722

that can be

00:42:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000723

submitted alongside our

00:42:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000724

requested one on

00:42:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000725

the Philippine Development Plan

00:42:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000726

statements

00:42:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000727

on education. Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

00:42:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000728

Yes, thank you Madam Speaker.

00:42:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000729

You have the assurance

00:42:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000730

Honorable Co of

00:42:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000731

Secretary Balisakan and the whole

00:42:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000732

DepDev family that once the

00:42:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000733

DepDev is looped in into

00:42:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000734

the implementation of EO

00:42:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000735

122, it will look

00:42:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000736

into

00:42:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000737

all of these concerns

00:42:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000738

but as of now

00:42:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000739

the DepDev has not been looped in.

00:42:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000740

Maybe as a final manifestation

00:43:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000741

Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

00:43:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000742

this representation finds it absurd that the

00:43:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000743

Department of Development is

00:43:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000744

not looped in or

00:43:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000745

even on top of this matter.

00:43:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000746

In fact, as it stands

00:43:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000747

this representation is concerned

00:43:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000748

are we secretly selling off

00:43:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000749

our mineral resources to the United States

00:43:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000750

without our knowledge?

00:43:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000751

Is this the framework that

00:43:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000752

the United States is entering into

00:43:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000753

that different countries

00:43:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000754

are also being involved in

00:43:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000755

at this rate? So

00:43:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000756

any feedback from the Department

00:43:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000757

would be greatly appreciated Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

00:43:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000758

That is all.

00:43:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000759

Thank you Madam Speaker.

00:43:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000760

That is all Madam Speaker.

00:43:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000761

I yield to the floor. Thank you.

00:43:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-000762

Majority Leader,

00:43:50Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-000763

Madam Speaker.

00:43:52Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-000764

Madam Speaker, may we recognize

00:43:54Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-000765

Representative Iris Marie

00:43:56Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-000766

Demesa Montes of the 4K

00:43:58Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-000767

Partylist for her interpolation.

00:44:00Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000768

Representative Iris Marie

00:44:02Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000769

Demesa Montes of 4K Partylist

00:44:04Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-000770

is now recognized for her interpolation.

00:44:06Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000771

Thank you Madam Speaker.

00:44:08Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000772

My questions

00:44:10Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000773

will, my first

00:44:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000774

question is

00:44:14Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000775

for the DBM.

00:44:16Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000776

The proposed health

00:44:18Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000777

allocation is lower

00:44:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000778

than 95.7 billion

00:44:22Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000779

despite continuing

00:44:24Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000780

obligations under

00:44:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000781

RA 11223.

00:44:28Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000782

What explains this

00:44:30Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000783

decline, what criteria guided

00:44:32Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000784

it, and which programs and

00:44:34Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000785

services were reduced?

00:45:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000799

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

00:45:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000800

A couple of factors.

00:45:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000801

One is the utilization of the HFEP, particularly in 2026.

00:45:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000802

So for fiscal year 2027, we reverted back to NEP level.

00:45:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000803

Second, there is a reduction to the MYFIP.

00:45:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000804

Again, back to the NEP level.

00:45:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000805

Also, there is the factor of the one-time return of the 60 billion of PhilHealth funds,

00:45:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000806

which we cannot be sustained for the coming year.

00:45:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000807

Okay.

00:45:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000808

May I, can you please repeat the one about PhilHealth?

00:46:02Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000809

Which one cannot be sustained?

00:46:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000810

Oh yes, this pertains to the Supreme Court decision, Madam Speaker.

00:46:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000811

So there is a one-time return of 60 billion.

00:46:15Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000812

Okay, thank you, thank you, good sponsor, Madam Speaker.

00:46:19Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000813

How much of the reduction represents genuine deficiency savings, if at all?

00:46:25Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000814

And how much?

00:46:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000815

It simply means less government provision for health services.

00:46:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000816

Madam Speaker, really the reduction would not be about the efficiency rate.

00:46:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000817

It's really about the low absorptive capacity and the delays.

00:46:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000818

And the implementation.

00:46:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000819

Madam Speaker.

00:47:00Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000820

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

00:47:04Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000821

Kapansin din po, bumaba ang alokasyon ng PhilHealth mula sa 129 billion ngayong taon

00:47:11Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000822

tungo sa 74 billion para sa 2027 o bawas ng 55 billion.

00:47:19Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000823

Bakit po kaya ito binawasan?

00:47:22Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000824

Gayong dapat lumalawak ang binipisyo at mas mabilis natin na,

00:47:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000825

na aabot ang mga adhikain ng universal health care.

00:47:31Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000826

At kasama po ba doon sa 95.7 billion na binaba, itong 55 billion na binaba sa pondo ng PhilHealth?

00:47:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000827

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

00:47:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000828

Well, pertaining to what we mentioned,

00:47:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000829

there was a 60 billion one-time return for PhilHealth Funds.

00:47:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000830

So, if you're accounting for that, actually, the 129 billion actually was just 69 billion.

00:48:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000831

Actually, nadagdagan pa po by 5 billion for this year, PhilHealth.

00:48:10Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000832

Okay.

00:48:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000833

Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker.

00:48:15Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000834

Dahil ang UHC ay nakabatay po sa progressive realization,

00:48:21Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000835

aling targets ang maaantala o hindi matutupad dahil sa nabawas na po,

00:48:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000836

sa pondo lalo sa primary care, outpatient services at catastrophic services.

00:48:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000837

Actually, Madam Speaker,

00:48:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000838

pag nagdagdagan po, kasi kung natanggal po yung 60 billion,

00:48:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000839

actually, dagdagan pa po ng 5 billion. So, actually, wala po nabawas.

00:48:49Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000840

Sige po. Kung atin pong igigiet and we follow that line of argument,

00:48:54Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000841

yung 60 billion po kasing binalik,

00:48:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000842

meron naman po talaga ng PhilHealth.

00:48:58Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000843

So, ibig sabihin, kung yan po ang argumento natin,

00:49:03Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000844

at this level, hindi pa rin nagbabago ang ibinibigay nating pondo para sa PhilHealth.

00:49:10Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000845

So, meaning, sa 65 billion dati na ibinigay at ngayon ay nagkakahalagan ng 74 billion

00:49:18Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000846

na kiniklaim po natin na nagdagdag pa ng 5 billion. Tama po?

00:49:24Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000847

Ayon po sa Section 37.

00:49:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000848

Ang RA 11223, malinaw na anim ang pinagkukuhanan ng pondo ng PhilHealth.

00:49:34Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000849

Nandiyan dyan po yung sin tax revenues, yung PAGCOR share, yung PCSO share,

00:49:41Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000850

yung premium contributions, yung galing sa DOH appropriations,

00:49:46Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000851

at national government subsidy sa GAA.

00:49:50Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000852

So, anim po na items.

00:49:52Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000853

Para sa 2027, magkano?

00:49:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000854

74 billion, paano po natin maibibreak down itong,

00:50:01Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000855

except of course, the premium contributions of members.

00:50:05Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000856

So, ano po ang mag-a-account sa 74 billion na ito?

00:50:11Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000857

How much is from the sin tax, from the PAGCOR, from the PCSO?

00:50:18Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000858

So, what does the 74 billion po represent?

00:50:23Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000859

So, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito.

00:50:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000860

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

00:50:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000861

55 billion will come from national government subsidies.

00:50:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000862

19 billion will come from a share of income from PAGCOR and PCSO.

00:50:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000863

So, that is the 74.

00:50:44Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000864

55 billion will come from?

00:50:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000865

National government subsidy.

00:50:48Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000866

National government. So, saan po yung sin tax?

00:50:50Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000867

Where is sin tax? Wala pong alokasyon dito ang sin tax?

00:50:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000868

Subsidy po ito, because this is the first time I'm hearing that the government is going to give a 55 billion subsidy to PhilHealth.

00:51:05Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000869

Because normally, in the past years, ang pinagagalingan po ng pondo ng PhilHealth ay sin tax lamang.

00:51:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000870

Yes, Madam Speaker. A point of clarification from the DBM.

00:51:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000871

It is, the 55 billion is coming from the sin tax.

00:51:19Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000872

Sin tax.

00:51:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000873

Yes.

00:51:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000874

So, 55 billion sin tax, 19 billion from PCSO and PAGCOR.

00:51:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000875

PAGCOR, is that correct?

00:51:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000876

Yes, Madam Speaker.

00:51:29Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000877

Itong 19 billion po ng PAGCOR, ano po ang nirepresent nito?

00:51:35Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000878

Siguro, tanungin ko na lamang po, simula noong 2022, magkano na po ang naibigay ng National Treasury sa PhilHealth mula sa share ng PAGCOR and PCSO?

00:51:51Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000879

Kasi lumalabas po sa talaan.

00:51:55Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000880

Madam Speaker.

00:51:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000881

I'm good sponsor.

00:51:57Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000882

Remember, last year, I took the floor and alam po ni Chair yun, nagkwenta po tayo kung magkano po ang utang ng gobyerno sa PhilHealth.

00:52:09Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000883

At lumabas po doon sa aming tala na mahigit 200 milyon ang pagkukulang ng gobyerno sa PhilHealth.

00:52:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000884

Kasama na po dyan yung mga arrears sa sin tax, PAGCOR and PCSO.

00:52:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000885

Sa talaan po ng PhilHealth ngayon, lumalabas na ang pagkukulang daw po, ang arrears daw po, ay 241 billion.

00:52:37Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000886

Does DBM confirm the figure? Is that also your figure? That the arrears are more or less 241 billion?

00:52:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000887

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

00:53:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000888

Well, the figure of the DBM is, the arrears would only be at 62 billion.

00:53:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000889

756,224,000.

00:53:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000890

So, dito po ibabawas yung 19 billion from the share.

00:53:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000891

I am surprised at the figure kasi last year nang nagkwentahan po kami sa floor,

00:53:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000892

galing mismo po sa figure ng DOF and DBM, nasa 200 plus billion.

00:53:33Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000893

Wala naman pong naidadagdag na pondo ang DBM, bakit po 62 billion na lang ito?

00:53:40Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000894

Nagbayad po ba or nagbigay po ba ng supplemental or additional funding ang DBM nang hindi nalalaman?

00:53:48Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000895

Para mabawasan ng ganito kalaking halaga yung arrears nila dapat, supposedly?

00:53:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000896

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

00:53:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000897

The 62 billion in arrears are for the PAGCOR and PCSO.

00:54:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000898

So, for the sin taxes, the updated figure would be 143,878,444,000.

00:54:18Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000899

Okay. Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

00:54:23Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000900

And can I just please request an official list from the DBM of the arrears

00:54:30Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000901

and to be broken down sa mga specific items po na kailangan nilang ibigay.

00:54:37Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000902

Yung arrears from the sin tax remittances, PAGCOR and PCSO share,

00:54:42Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000903

and in fact, meron dapat nga po silang babayaran na may legacy receivable po dapat ang PhilHealth sa kanila.

00:54:53Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000904

Yung mga premium subsidy arrears from 2016 and prior.

00:54:58Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000905

But anyway, gusto ko lamang pong malaman talaga, i-reconcile yung figure kung magkano po talaga ang kakulangan ng DBM

00:55:08Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000906

mula sa sin tax share, sa PAGCOR, sa PCSO, at yung kabuoang total po nito.

00:55:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000907

We will submit, Madam Speaker.

00:55:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000908

Yes.

00:55:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000909

So, it is established at alam naman po natin.

00:55:23Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000910

Kaya lahat, hindi din po ipinagkakaila na may kakulangan po talaga, ano?

00:55:29Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000911

Ang gusto ko pong itanong na susunod, yung kakulangan na pondo po ito,

00:55:33Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000912

kasi may mga halimbawa po in the past, ang collection sa sin tax sabihin nyo po ay,

00:55:39Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000913

I'm not sure of the complete figure, but I would just like to establish that

00:55:44Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000914

yung ibinibigay po ng DBM falls short sa tamang collection.

00:55:49Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000915

So, kaya may arrears tayo.

00:55:50Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000916

So, ito po bang mga perang itong hindi na ibibigay?

00:55:54Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000917

Nasaan na po ba ito?

00:55:55Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000918

Nagamit na po ba ito o nasa general fund?

00:56:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000924

Yes, Madam Speaker.

00:56:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000925

At least for the earmarked revenues, yes, these are earmarked for the UHC.

00:56:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000926

However, there isn't a mechanism in place where we can actually account for the cash that comes in for the earmarked revenue.

00:56:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000927

So, sa batas,

00:56:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000928

earmarked revenue po talaga siya,

00:56:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000929

but it can be programmed later.

00:56:57Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000930

Okay, I'll pursue that

00:56:59Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000931

a little bit later, good sponsor,

00:57:01Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000932

Madam Chair, no?

00:57:03Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000933

Kasi ang gusto ko lang

00:57:04Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000934

pong puntuhin diyan,

00:57:06Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000935

DBM na rin po nagsabi na

00:57:08Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000936

earmarked nga po yan.

00:57:10Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000937

At yung linaw po ba ng

00:57:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000938

desisyon ng Korte Suprema

00:57:14Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000939

nung ibinalik, pinababalik

00:57:16Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000940

yung 60 billion, hindi pa

00:57:18Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000941

rin po ba yun ganun talinaw

00:57:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000942

na ang sinasabi

00:57:22Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000943

na kung earmarked yan for

00:57:24Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000944

this purpose, dapat doon

00:57:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000945

lamang po siya gamitin.

00:57:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000946

Yes.

00:57:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000947

Well, under law,

00:57:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000948

if it's earmarked for that particular purpose

00:57:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000949

then it should go

00:57:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000950

to that particular purpose, which is reinforced

00:57:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000951

by the Supreme Court.

00:57:43Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000952

Going along that line, good sponsor,

00:57:47Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000953

kasi nga po,

00:57:48Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000954

hindi na ibigay yung

00:57:49Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000955

koleksyon halimbawa ng sin tax.

00:57:52Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000956

Kulang. Saan po

00:57:54Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000957

yun napunta? Kasi dapat earmarked

00:57:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000958

yun, sabi rin ng Supreme Court,

00:57:58Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000959

dapat sa PhilHealth lang yun

00:58:00Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000960

kasi para sa UHC yun.

00:58:02Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000961

So asan na po yun?

00:58:04Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000962

Yun po ang gusto ko po saanang malaman.

00:58:07Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000963

Bakit po tayo

00:58:08Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000964

nagkakaroon ng malaking kakulangan

00:58:10Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000965

o pagkakautang

00:58:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000966

sa PhilHealth kung sinusunod

00:58:14Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000967

natin ang batas

00:58:16Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000968

na dapat napupunta yun

00:58:17Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000969

sa PhilHealth?

00:58:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000970

Madam Speaker,

00:58:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000971

as per the

00:58:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000972

DBM, the variance

00:58:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000973

would fall

00:58:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000974

in the general fund.

00:58:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000975

So it's still in the general fund

00:58:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000976

as of now, as we

00:58:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000977

speak, it's in the general

00:58:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000978

fund.

00:58:40Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000979

Yes, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

00:58:42Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000980

Madam Sponsor,

00:58:44Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000981

Madam Speaker,

00:58:47Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000982

kung wala na pong

00:58:50Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000983

sapat na subsidy, yung

00:58:52Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000984

binabanggit ko po sa inyo kanina

00:58:54Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000985

na anim na income streams

00:58:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000986

dapat ng PhilHealth.

00:58:58Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000987

Supposedly po,

00:59:00Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000988

meron pa doon government subsidy

00:59:02Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000989

to represent, sana yan,

00:59:04Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000990

subsidian ng gobyerno

00:59:06Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000991

para sa mga indigent

00:59:07Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000992

at saka para doon

00:59:10Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000993

sa mga special laws.

00:59:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000994

Wala din pong naibibigay

00:59:14Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000995

dyan ang gobyerno.

00:59:16Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000996

So, kung susumahin po

00:59:18Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000997

natin,

00:59:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000998

kulang na po ang naibibigay

00:59:22Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-000999

galing sa sin tax na

00:59:24Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001000

earmark,

00:59:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001001

specifically, nakalagay

00:59:28Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001002

sa UHC law,

00:59:30Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001003

hindi rin po naibibigay ng

00:59:32Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001004

buo yung pag-core,

00:59:34Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001005

ang PCSO,

00:59:36Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001006

hindi rin po naibibigay,

00:59:38Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001007

wala din pong subsidia

00:59:40Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001008

na galing sa gobyerno,

00:59:42Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001009

for indigents and under special laws.

00:59:45Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001010

So,

00:59:46Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001011

paano po natin, Madam Sponsor,

00:59:49Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001012

Madam Speaker,

00:59:49Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001013

mapuprotektahan ang mga direct

00:59:52Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001014

contributors who bear

00:59:54Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001015

the burden ng gastusin

00:59:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001016

ng PhilHealth?

00:59:58Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001017

Mga ordinaryong

00:59:59Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001018

manggagawa po ito

01:00:03Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001019

na pilit na nagbabayad ng tama at sa takdang panahon. So pagdating ng punto na magkakasakit sila, kulang ang kanilang benepisyong nakukuha.

01:00:16Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001020

So paano po natin ito na justify at paano po natin na ipapaliwanag, maipapaliwanag ng DBM and our economic managers sa tuwing-tuwing nagbibigay po tayo ng pondo para sa universal healthcare.

01:01:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001022

Thank you Madam Speaker. Well, this representation shares the same sentiment as the Honorable Montez. As of now, there is really just a pool of social insurances.

01:01:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001023

So there isn't a differentiation as of now, the way it's treated, the fund, in terms of direct and indirect contributors.

01:01:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001024

So for the purposes of this,

01:01:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001025

the use of, and the programs of the PhilHealth, I think that would be better answered during the plenary deliberations of the Department of Health and the PhilHealth.

01:02:00Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001026

Yeah, but I understand Madam Sponsor, but this is about financing.

01:02:06Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001027

So this is about financing, which is the responsibility of the DBM and our economic managers.

01:02:13Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001028

It's about prioritization.

01:02:15Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001029

It's about our, it's about honoring our commitment to the promise of universal healthcare.

01:02:25Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001030

Well, anyway, ang gusto ko lamang pong ipunto na itong usaping ito ay hindi usapin ng fiscal space or absorptive capacity or programming decision lamang.

01:02:37Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001031

Ito ay usapin ng pagsunod sa batas at sa pangako ng gobyerno sa UHC.

01:02:43Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001032

Paano matutupad ang UHC?

01:02:45Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001033

Kung ang mismong lifeline ng PhilHealth ay napipigil.

01:02:50Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001034

When government appropriations for PhilHealth are withheld and arrears rich billions of pesos,

01:02:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001035

the state itself becomes a source of delayed financing.

01:03:01Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001036

Kung inaasa natin na magbabayad ang mga direct contributors, ang mga miyembro, sa tamang oras at tamang halaga,

01:03:10Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001037

government should lead by example.

01:03:13Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001038

Dapat manguna ang gobyerno, ang pamahalaan, sa maagap at buong pagpupondo ng universal healthcare.

01:03:22Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001039

Kaugnay po dito, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

01:03:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001040

On August 4, 2006, the Philippines contracted an ADB-JICA policy loan of almost $938 million or roughly $60 billion for Build Universal Healthcare Subprogram 3.

01:03:43Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001041

Meron 3 na po ito, so ibig sabihin may 1 and 2.

01:03:49Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001042

Tanong ko po sa DBM and siguro sa economic managers natin, bakit kailangan mag-utang?

01:03:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001043

Ano ang terms? At saan eksaktong ginamit yung mga proceeds?

01:04:02Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001044

At saan po gagamitin itong sa Subprogram 3?

01:04:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001045

Madam Speaker, the loan?

01:04:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001046

Mentioned by the Honorable Montez is a policy loan, so it's for budgetary support.

01:04:18Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001047

Budgetary support for?

01:04:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001048

Or it finances the general fund. It goes to the general fund.

01:04:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001049

To the general fund, but it has its use. Since it's a policy loan, alam ko pong may mga terms yun,

01:04:33Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001050

ang maaari ko po bang malaman kahit ito na lang sa Subprogram 3, saan po yun gagamitin?

01:04:39Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001051

Kasi ang ginamit po, universal healthcare.

01:04:43Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001052

So meaning, gagamitin po yan sa implementasyon ng universal healthcare.

01:05:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001053

Okay.

01:05:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001054

Ayon po sa aking pananaliksik, ang sabihin ko na lamang po na yung package 3 daw po focuses on institutionalizing reforms to ensure long-term sustainability and system-wide integration,

01:05:27Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001055

e-health infrastructure, automated claims processing, and resilient health system financing.

01:05:36Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001056

So ito pong mga ito ay dapat napupunta sa PhilHealth.

01:05:40Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001057

So ang tanong ko po, doon sa quinenta po natin, nagbigay po ba tayo galing sa loan na ito?

01:05:51Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001058

Kasi ang mga quinenta po nating nakaraan galing lang sa arrears ng sin tax, wala pa nga pong kasama ang PAGCOR at PCSO.

01:06:00Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001059

Ngayon po pala, meron ding policy loan. So saan napunta po yung policy loan?

01:06:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001060

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

01:06:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001061

As for the DBM, this particular policy loan goes to the general fund. So it's part of the general fund to fulfill the general fund requirements.

01:06:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001062

However, based on practice and the commitment of the national government is that this particular policy loan, so the proceeds from there,

01:06:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001063

would be attributed to programs, activities, and projects of the DOH.

01:06:48Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001064

Thank you, Madam Sponsor. Kaya lang naguluhan lang po ako.

01:06:51Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001065

Is it a normal practice that you contract a policy loan for, say, for the universal healthcare, pero hindi din mapupunta kung saan yung dapat mo purpose na inutang yun?

01:07:05Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001066

Is that what you're telling me, Madam Sponsor?

01:07:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001069

Madam Speaker, so

01:07:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001082

This policy loan is attributed to programs under the UHC, so not particularly just PhilHealth.

01:07:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001083

So as for the DBM, these would also include the HFEP and the MYFEP.

01:07:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001084

So also, as for the DBM, we also have different policy loans for education, disaster management,

01:08:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001085

and usually the practice is that, so the loan proceeds goes to the general fund,

01:08:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001086

but there's a commitment on the part of the national government that the proceeds from that loan will go to,

01:08:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001087

for example, if it's education, it would be under the different agencies under the education sector,

01:08:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001088

or disaster management, it would go to specific PAPs.

01:08:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001089

As for the DBM, Madam Speaker.

01:08:31Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001090

Thank you. Good sponsor, Madam Speaker.

01:08:35Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001091

May I just request, perhaps may I just request the DBM to submit to this representative?

01:08:40Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001092

Before the budget deliberations are done and over with,

01:08:45Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001093

details of the UHC loan for sub-programs 1, 2, 3.

01:08:57Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001094

For sub-programs 1 and 2, this representation would like to find out how much was borrowed,

01:09:04Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001095

for what purpose, under what repayment terms, and which agencies were responsible,

01:09:10Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001096

for implementation.

01:09:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001097

That's for sub-programs 1 and 2.

01:09:16Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001098

And I would also like to find out, when are these loans due,

01:09:21Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001099

and what is the projected fiscal burden on future budgets.

01:09:28Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001100

Perhaps it should be with the OF, but if the DBM can already give us the figure,

01:09:35Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001101

we will highly appreciate that.

01:09:38Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001102

And more importantly, Madam Speaker,

01:09:40Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001103

I would like to request the DBM to submit the targets of sub-programs 1 and 2,

01:09:49Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001104

and an assessment if, indeed, the targets have been achieved.

01:09:54Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001105

So, ang nakalagay po kasi doon na pinaggamitan ay gender-sensitive,

01:10:00Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001106

climate-smart, and disaster-resilient improved coordination among public and private healthcare providers,

01:10:08Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001107

increased number of sub-programs.

01:10:09Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001108

Number of primary care providers, enhanced health promotion services,

01:10:15Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001109

increased health worker supply, and integrated delivery of quality health services.

01:10:22Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001110

Ito po bang mga to na mga targets ay na-achieve,

01:10:28Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001111

kung hindi man, ilang porsyento na po tayo sa pag-achieve ng targets na yan

01:10:34Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001112

nung pinasok ng ating gobyerno ang mga loans na ito.

01:10:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001113

Yes, Madam.

01:10:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001114

Madam Speaker, the DBM will comply, particularly with the line-by-line details of sub-programs 1, 2,

01:10:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001115

and the projections for sub-programs 2.

01:10:48Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001116

Thank you so much, good sponsor, Madam Speaker.

01:10:53Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001117

In the end, gusto ko lang po sigurong sabihin,

01:10:55Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001118

mahirap po kasing parang tanggapin na habang binabawasan natin

01:11:01Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001119

or hindi natin nabibigyan ng sapat na alokasyon,

01:11:05Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001120

ang pagtupad ng universal healthcare,

01:11:09Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001121

ngutang pa rin po pala tayo na ginagamit ang universal healthcare,

01:11:15Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001122

samantalang hindi naman natin nararamdaman yung inutang na iyon.

01:11:20Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001123

Dapat po, kung mangungutang tayo kasabay ng pondong binibigay ng gobyerno,

01:11:26Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001124

dapat po parehong maghatid yan ng mas malawa, mas mabilis,

01:11:32Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001125

at mas abot kayang serbisyong pangkalusugan.

01:11:35Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001126

Hindi naman po masama.

01:11:37Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001127

Hindi pong masamang.

01:11:38Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001128

Mangungutang tayo.

01:11:39Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001129

Mangungutang tayo para mas madali po nating maiabot yung pangako ng universal healthcare.

01:11:46Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001130

Pero sana po sa pag-utang na iyon, katulad din ng ibang utang,

01:11:50Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001131

nagagamit po talaga natin sa tamang paraan at kung saan po talaga natin,

01:11:56Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001132

at kung para saan po talaga yung inutang natin.

01:11:59Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001133

At meron tayong targets at i-evaluate po natin yan kung natutupad yung mga targets na iyon.

01:12:07Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001134

At at the end of the period,

01:12:09Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001135

naubos na po natin ng pera,

01:12:11Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001136

masasabi natin yung inutang natin ay kapakipakinaban.

01:12:16Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001137

So, let me just state again that the Supreme Court reminded us that where health begins, all freedoms stand.

01:12:25Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001138

Kung saan daw po nakatayo at nagsisimula ang kalusugan, doon nakatindig ang lahat ng kalayaan.

01:12:37Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001139

Sana po isa puso natin.

01:12:39Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001140

Ito, bawat pagbalangkas natin ng budget para sa kalusugan.

01:12:45Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001141

Kaya naman po, ang kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa katakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan or 4K,

01:12:51Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001142

ay maninindigan at patuloy na igigiip na ang universal healthcare ay hindi lamang pangako ng batas,

01:12:58Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001143

kundi pananagutan ng gobyerno.

01:13:00Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001144

Kung kulang ang pondo para sa UHC, kulang din ang hustisya at kalayaan ng bawat Pilipino.

01:13:07Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001145

Maraming salamat po.

01:13:09Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001146

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, good evening po sa lahat.

01:13:12Source

Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes

asr-001147

Authority Leader.

01:13:18Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001148

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Dada Ismula from Akbayan Party List to interpolate on the proposed budget.

01:13:29Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001149

Representative Dada Ismula is now recognized for her interpolation.

01:13:32Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001150

As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu.

01:13:38Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001151

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

01:13:39Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001157

I want to focus on how the DBM ensures that syntax revenues are properly earmarked and transparently allocated para masigurong bawat Pilipino ay may libre o abot kaya at dekalidad na health services bilang karapatan natin.

01:14:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001158

This is in continuation or in connection of what my colleague, Representative Iris Montes, have questioned earlier.

01:14:11Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001159

Madam Sponsor, can DBM confirm that under Republic Act No. 11223 or the Universal Health Care Act, health funding is statutory and non-discretionary?

01:14:27Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001160

Ibig sabihin, nakasaad.

01:14:30Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001161

Ibig sabihin, nasa batas at hindi basta babawasan, ihinto o ibahin ang paggagamitan.

01:14:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001162

Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker.

01:14:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001163

Can DBM confirm that Republic Act No. 11346 and 11467 require specific percentages of all syntaxes to go directly to health programs?

01:14:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001164

Yes, Madam Speaker, we confirm.

01:14:56Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001165

Under Republic Act 11467.

01:15:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001166

Can DBM confirm that 60% of excise taxes from alcohol, heated tobacco, and vapor products must go strictly to universal health care?

01:15:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001167

Yes, Madam Speaker.

01:15:14Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001168

Can DBM also confirm that under the same law, another 20% from these same taxes is legally reserved for medical assistance for indigent patients and for upgrading public hospitals?

01:15:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001169

Yes, Madam Speaker.

01:15:32Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001170

Can DBM confirm that these health funds should be automatically appropriated by law?

01:15:39Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001171

Ibig sabihin, hindi pwede bawasan o i-divert ng Pangulo o ng sino man sa Executive?

01:15:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001172

Madam Speaker, under RA11, under the Universal Health Care Act,

01:15:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001173

there is a...

01:15:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001174

It's supposed to be earmarked.

01:16:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001175

There is no...

01:16:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001176

It's not automatic.

01:16:06Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001177

But it is stated and appropriated by the law.

01:16:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001178

Ibig sabihin, hindi po siya pwedeng i-divert ng Pangulo o ng sino man Executive?

01:16:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001179

Yes, Madam Speaker.

01:16:19Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001180

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

01:16:22Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001181

Based on the DBM's budget document, or the Budget of Expenditures and Sources of Financing, or BESF,

01:16:29Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001182

Table C.3, can DBM confirm that for 2026 projected tax collection from sweetened drinks reaches, or umaabot hanggang, P142.8 billion?

01:16:48Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001183

Again, projected po.

01:17:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001193

Yes, as for the BSF, that figure is correct, Madam Speaker.

01:17:37Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001194

Maraming salamat po. How about from alcohol? Tama po ba 153.6 billion pesos?

01:17:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001195

For alcohol products, for Selective Exercise Tax on Goods, for 2027, the projection actually is 136.713 billion.

01:18:08Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001196

This is under BESF po of Table C.3.

01:18:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001197

Okay.

01:18:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001198

Yes.

01:18:15Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001199

And from tobacco po, 234.7 billion.

01:18:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001200

Madam Speaker, at least as for the BESF Table C.3, for 2027, for tobacco, the projection would be 182.

01:18:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001201

I'm sorry, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, it's for projected for 2026 po.

01:18:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001202

Ah, for 2026.

01:18:38Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001203

Yes po.

01:18:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001204

For 2026, my apologies.

01:18:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001205

For 2026, what's programmed?

01:18:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001206

Programmed would be 164.386 billion.

01:18:48Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001207

In total, can DBM confirm that the government expect over 500 billion pesos in SYNTAXES for 2026?

01:19:04Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001208

Ibig sabihin po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, higit kalahating trilyong piso ang collection natin sa SYNTAXES.

01:19:12Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001209

Yes, can DBM confirm?

01:19:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001210

Yes po.

01:19:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001211

Well, these are programmed though, Madam Speaker, though the actual projections would be better answered by the DOF.

01:19:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001212

However, what's programmed for tobacco would be 164 billion and then SSB would be 37.67.

01:19:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001213

67.

01:19:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001214

67.

01:19:44Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001215

To 34.7 billion.

01:19:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001216

Yes.

01:19:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001217

So, that would not be under, yes, yeah, 64 plus 37 would be 201 billion.

01:20:03Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001218

64 plus 37.

01:20:05Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001219

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, para po mas madali sa ating kasamang sponsor,

01:20:14Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001220

pakitulungan na lang po DBM, i-total ninyo po 142.8 billion, 153.6 billion, at yung 234.7 billion,

01:20:27Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001221

nakapost po ito sa inyong page, sa inyong website.

01:20:33Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001222

So, matotal na sa magkano po ang total?

01:20:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001231

Yeah, Madam Speaker, [unclear], at least for 2026, the program would be for SSB 37, and then the tobacco products would be 164. And then, sorry, what was the first item?

01:21:01Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001251

Ulitin ko po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. Yung projected tax collection niyo po from sweetened drinks, nagre-reach po siya ng 142.8 billion for 2026. Tama po ba?

01:21:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001263

As for the BSF Table C-3, Madam Speaker, it's only at P37.67 billion.

01:21:28Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001264

Ito'y for 2026.

01:21:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001265

For 2026 program, Madam Speaker.

01:21:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001266

Program, Madam Speaker.

01:21:37Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001267

Walang for projected po kasi projected po yung tinitignan natin.

01:21:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001268

For Table C-3, the projections for 2027.

01:21:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001269

But the projections for 2026 are those that are programmed.

01:21:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001270

Yes, at least for Table C-3 of the BSF.

01:22:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001271

Magkano naman po ang sa Table C-3 pag ito'y programmed for 2027?

01:22:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001272

For SSB, this is under C-3.

01:22:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001273

C-3 of the BSF, it's P39.669 billion.

01:22:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001274

And then for tobacco, it would be, for 2027, it's P182.209 billion.

01:22:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001275

At ang for alcohol naman po?

01:22:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001276

For alcohol, it would be P136.713 billion.

01:22:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001277

For 2027 projections.

01:22:41Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001278

Sumatutal na sa magkano po siya?

01:22:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001279

P357 billion.

01:22:47Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001280

P200?

01:22:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001281

Sorry, P357 billion, Madam Speaker.

01:22:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001282

P300.

01:22:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001283

Okay, P357 billion.

01:22:55Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001284

Ibig sabihin po ba, base sa requirement ng syntax laws at revenues for 2026 mismo ng DBM,

01:23:03Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001285

can DBM confirm that for 2027, the earmark amount for UHC,

01:23:11Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001286

should be around 300 plus billion pesos?

01:23:16Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001287

Or at least 60% of the 357 billion?

01:23:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001303

The basis for this, Madam Speaker, the value I'm going to share would be, based

01:23:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001304

on 2025 collections, it would be P310,637,447,000.

01:24:05Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001305

So ibig sabihin po, ang naging basis po natin is iyong 2025,

01:24:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001306

Okay.

01:24:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001307

na collections po.

01:24:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001308

Tama po ba?

01:24:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001309

For this figure, yes, Madam Speaker.

01:24:15Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001310

Ngayon naman po, can DBM confirm that in the NEP,

01:24:19Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001311

the allocation for the National Health Insurance Program

01:24:23Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001312

is only P74 billion?

01:24:26Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001313

Tama po ba?

01:24:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001314

Yes, yes, Madam Speaker.

01:24:29Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001315

Ano ang basis ng P74 billion?

01:24:32Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001316

Magkano po ang P74 billion from the tax revenue

01:24:36Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001317

from sweetened beverages?

01:24:38Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001318

Magkano naman ang sa alcohol products

01:24:42Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001319

at magkano naman ang sa tobacco products?

01:25:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001320

Madam Speaker, for earmarked revenues for 2027, with regards to the collections from the same taxes,

01:25:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001322

For tobacco, PhilHealth is supposed to get

01:25:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001323

P59.495 billion.

01:25:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001324

For sugar-sweetened beverages,

01:25:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001325

it would be P15.731 billion for 2027.

01:26:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001326

Those are just for PhilHealth.

01:26:02Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001327

How about po yung sa alcohol products naman po?

01:26:06Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001328

Magkano?

01:26:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001329

For alcohol,

01:26:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001330

Madam Speaker,

01:26:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001331

there is no allocation for PhilHealth.

01:26:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001332

So matotal na sa magkano po yun?

01:26:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001333

For universal healthcare,

01:26:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001334

would be P75.856 billion for 2027,

01:26:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001335

the earmarked revenue.

01:26:28Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001336

Ibig sabihin, ito yung naging basehan

01:26:30Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001337

kaya nagkaroon ng P74 billion.

01:26:33Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001338

Tama po ba?

01:26:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001346

Yes, the total for the SYNTAX, for PhilHealth.

01:26:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001347

That would be the base for the P74 billion.

01:26:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001348

Madam Speaker.

01:26:56Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001349

Maraming salamat Madam Speaker, Madam sponsor.

01:26:59Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001350

Given these figures,

01:27:01Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001351

can the BM confirm that there is indeed the shortfall

01:27:05Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001352

between the mandated earmarking and the actual

01:27:08Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001353

allocations in the NEP.

01:27:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001354

Yes, Madam Speaker.

01:27:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001355

Ibig sabihin po,

01:27:15Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001356

hindi po tayo nagiging

01:27:16Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001357

compliant sa ating batas

01:27:18Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001358

na syntax. Tama po ba?

01:27:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001359

Yes.

01:27:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001360

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

01:27:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001361

This is the perennial challenge.

01:27:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001362

Unfortunately,

01:27:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001363

Distinguished Colleague, Honorable Ismula,

01:27:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001364

there is

01:27:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001365

a chicken-egg

01:27:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001366

problem.

01:27:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001367

Given that

01:27:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001368

there has to be a certification

01:27:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001369

for the earmarked

01:27:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001370

revenues before it can

01:28:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001371

be allocated. So,

01:28:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001372

usually po nangyayari, hindi na

01:28:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001373

hahabol yung certification

01:28:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001374

in time for the budgeting.

01:28:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001375

The planning of the

01:28:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001376

program. Kaya, nagkakaroon po

01:28:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001377

ng perennial issue na

01:28:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001378

yung dapat earmarked revenue

01:28:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001379

for particular programs,

01:28:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001380

hindi lang po siya sa UHC. Actually,

01:28:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001381

lahat po halos

01:28:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001382

ng ganito po yung problema.

01:28:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001383

But, rest assured, the DBM

01:28:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001384

is trying its best in terms of

01:28:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001385

expediting the certifications

01:28:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001386

and making sure that

01:28:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001387

kung ano man ang

01:28:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001388

mga programa na kung saan

01:28:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001389

dapat nakalaanan ng

01:28:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001390

ng pondo.

01:28:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001391

Yes.

01:28:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001392

Laanan talaga nung pondo na yun.

01:28:44Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001393

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

01:28:46Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001394

maraming salamat po. Naintindihan ko po

01:28:48Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001395

ito. Pero, gusto ko po

01:28:49Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001396

malaman, sino po yung

01:28:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001397

nagkulang doon sa certification?

01:29:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001398

Yes.

01:29:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001399

On the part of the

01:29:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001400

DBM,

01:29:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001401

given that the DBM

01:29:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001402

only relies on the certification,

01:29:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001403

the actual issuance of the certification

01:29:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001404

with regards to that process,

01:29:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001405

the DOF would be

01:29:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001406

better,

01:29:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001407

in the better position to

01:29:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001408

speak to that.

01:29:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001409

However, the DBM has assured that

01:29:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001410

it is in constant

01:29:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001411

dialogue with the DOF

01:29:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001412

to expedite the issuance

01:29:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001413

of these certifications para po hindi na nangyayari

01:29:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001414

ito kada taon.

01:29:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001415

Madam Speaker.

01:29:50Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001416

Tama po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

01:29:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001417

Actually, as I understand,

01:29:55Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001418

hindi lamang para sa taong ito

01:29:57Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001419

nangyayari yung ganitong shortfall.

01:30:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001420

Actually last year ganoon din po. So sana maayos po natin ito kung ano man yung certification na yan nakulang, ano man po yung, or kung sino man yung nagkulang dyan sa certification, sana po mahabol natin dahil pinag-uusapan po natin ang health line ng ating bansa, ang health line ng ating mga kababayan.

01:30:25Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001421

Hindi po dapat magiging sagot natin sa health line kung sakali man umabot na yung health line ng isang kababayan natin, ay isasagot natin, pasensya na dahil nagkulang tayo sa certification.

01:30:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001422

With that, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, it's become very obvious that the DBM has not complied with the UHC law and syntax laws in the 2027 budget.

01:30:54Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001423

Will DBM commit to submitting a complete accounting to this committee showing all syntax collections versus actual health allocations from 2020 to present?

01:31:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001424

Madam Speaker, the department will comply.

01:31:11Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001425

Maraming salamat po. At para sa huling katanungan ko po, Madam Sponsor, when Congress corrects this budget and restores the missing billions back to healthcare,

01:31:23Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001426

will DBM commit?

01:31:24Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001427

Will DBM commit to releasing and executing those funds without delay?

01:31:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001428

As authorized by the GAA, the DBM will comply, Madam Speaker.

01:31:45Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001429

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, linggo-linggo nakikita natin sa social media ang mga hinain ng mga kababayan natin.

01:31:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001430

Nadudurog po ang puso ko makita kapag nako-confine ang ating mga kababayan,

01:31:59Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001431

konting-konti lang ang nako-cover ng PhilHealth sa kanilang final bill.

01:32:04Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001432

Ang nangyayari, kukuha sila sa kanilang savings, uutang sila, or iikot sila sa mga ahensya para magmakaawa para sa tulong.

01:32:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001433

Ang katotohanan pala, may pondo naman palang pwede ilaan para lakihan ang coverage ng PhilHealth kada pasyente,

01:32:22Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001434

nang hindi kailangan lakihan ang contribution ng members.

01:32:26Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001435

Hindi na kailangang magtiis, mangutang, or manlimos ng mga kababayan natin.

01:32:32Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001436

The government just has to follow the law and fully fund the universal healthcare.

01:32:38Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001437

Kaya po, I express my strong commitment to address this issue at umaasa ako na kasama ang aking mga colleagues in the 20th Congress.

01:32:48Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001438

Mapapalakas natin ang legislation at oversight.

01:32:52Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001439

Para masiguro na ang syntax revenues ay maayos at tapat na nilalaan para wala ng Pilipinong magihirap pa para lang gumaling sa sakit.

01:33:03Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001440

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, may isisingit na lamang po akong katanungan mula sa aking colleague na si Senior Deputy Minority Laila Delima.

01:33:16Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001441

Apat lang po isisingit ko dahil may time pa naman ako.

01:33:20Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001442

Yung higher than program disbursements po ba mula fiscal year of 2022 hanggang fiscal year of 2025 ay dahil sa releases galing sa unprogrammed appropriations.

01:33:35Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001443

Ibig sabihin po nito ay mas mataas ang aktual na paggasta kumpara sa orihinal na nakaprogram sa budget.

01:33:44Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001444

Tama po ba?

01:33:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001445

As for the DBM, this is one factor. Madam Speaker, another factor would be continuing appropriation.

01:34:03Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001446

Maraming salamat po.

01:34:04Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001447

Sa 2025 Fiscal Risk Statement ng DBCC, flagged ang UA bilang major risk, dagdag na P118B o 0.66 percentage points sa deficit-to-GDP ratio.

01:34:22Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001450

Pareho na rin ang lumalabas sa independent computation na ginawa ng opisina ni Representative Delima.

01:34:30Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001451

Matagal na pong sinasabi na deficit neutral ang UA, pero mismong risk statement ng DBCC nagsasabing deficit inducing ito.

01:34:42Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001452

Ano ang paliwanag sa contradictions na ito?

01:35:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001454

Madam Speaker, this is driven mostly by loan proceeds disbursement.

01:35:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001455

As per the DBM, ito po daw yung nalilipat from program to unprogram.

01:35:11Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001456

Salamat po.

01:35:12Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001457

Kung mag-materialize ang 0.66% points, ano ang epekto nito sa debt?

01:35:20Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001458

GDP path para sa 2027 to 2028.

01:36:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001464

As for the estimates of the DBM, Madam Speaker,

01:36:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001469

For every 30 billion in excess disbursement, it would add 0.1 percentage point in the debt-to-GDP ratio.

01:36:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001470

Medyo malaki po 'yun kung suma total.

01:36:34Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001471

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, since the DBCC itself flagged the UA as major financial risk,

01:36:41Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001472

how much in total was released from it from fiscal year of 2022 to fiscal year of 2025 annual figures broken by expense class and implementing agency?

01:36:55Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001473

Kung sakali po hindi po available right now, this representation and Representative Laila Delima would be very much willing to receive that copy after this budget.

01:37:11Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001474

Or probably tomorrow po kung ma-provide nila.

01:37:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001475

Yes.

01:37:17Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001476

And in connection to that, idadagdag po na rin po ito, how much in total was released from the unprogrammed appropriations from fiscal year of 2022 to 2025?

01:37:30Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001477

And can the DBM provide the annual figures and the detailed list of programs, activities, and projects funded by the UA?

01:37:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001478

Yes.

01:37:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001479

Madam Speaker, the DBM will comply with regards to this data from 2022 to 2025.

01:37:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001480

It's quite an extensive list.

01:37:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001481

But the DBM also mentioned that there were documents submitted to the Committee on Appropriations.

01:38:01Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001482

Maraming salamat po.

01:38:02Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001483

Can Representative Delima in this representation receive the copy as well?

01:38:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001484

Yes, Madam Speaker.

01:38:09Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001485

Maraming salamat po.

01:38:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001486

Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, para po sa huling katanungan, can the DBM commit to submit a report through this Committee showing total UA releases against the deficit increases versus original and adjusted programs since fiscal year of 2022?

01:38:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001487

Yes, the Department will comply, Madam Speaker.

01:38:36Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001488

Maraming salamat po.

01:38:37Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001489

If the DBM can commit, I ask that...

01:38:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001490

This representation and the Office of Representative Delima be provided with a copy.

01:38:46Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001491

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

01:38:47Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001492

Maraming salamat po, Madam Sponsor.

01:38:50Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001493

Thank you, DBM family.

01:38:52Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001494

Majority Leader.

01:38:55Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-001495

Madam Speaker, may we recognize the Honorable Edgar Erize of the 2nd District of Caloocan for his interpellation.

01:39:03Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001496

Representative Edgar Erize from the 2nd District of Caloocan City is now recognized for his interpellation.

01:39:09Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001497

Thank you.

01:39:10Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001498

Madam Speaker, thank you, Madam Chair.

01:39:15Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001499

I'll be going directly to the questions para po mapadali na ang ating pagtulog.

01:39:24Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001500

Madam Speaker, napakalaki po ng ating mga inuutang at gusto ko pong tanungin sa DEP-DEB kung yung mga ginagastos nating inuutang

01:39:38Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001501

ay lumilikha ba ng pangmatagalang

01:39:40Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001502

pag-unlad?

01:39:42Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001503

O pinapondohan lang natin ang tulong o ayuda na kailangan na naman natin ulitin sa susunod na taon.

01:40:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001504

Well, Madam Speaker, Honorable Erize, on the part of DEP-DEB, it's only...

01:40:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001505

It's only...

01:40:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001506

It formulates policies, it gives recommendations, and it's...

01:40:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001507

Like the DEP-DEB is in charge of the updating and the crafting of the Philippine Development Plan.

01:40:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001508

With regards to that, that's the only purview in which the DEP-DEB can manage these types of investments,

01:40:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001509

but it doesn't really have power over the loans contracted.

01:40:37Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001510

Hindi po ba?

01:40:38Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001511

Dapat yung pag-gastos natin ng national budget ay aligned with the Philippine Development Plan.

01:40:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001512

Well, in terms of financing strategic investments, it will be...

01:40:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001513

Well, the financing, the actual financing of the strategic investments in human capital development in all of the sectors

01:41:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001514

would be part of the Philippine Development Plan.

01:41:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001515

With regards to the revenue program for those investments, that would not fall under the DEP-DEB's purview.

01:41:17Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001516

Wala po ba silang pag-aaral kung yung pong ginagastos ng pamahalaan, yung investment sa mga developmental projects

01:41:29Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001517

at yung investment sa mga ayuda, kung ano ang epekto nito sa pagpapaunlad ng bansa, wala silang pag-aaral?

01:42:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001521

Madam Speaker, on the part of DepDev, particularly the

01:42:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001522

PIDS, there are

01:42:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001523

studies with regards to

01:42:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001524

the effects of

01:42:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001525

like our social programs

01:42:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001526

for poverty

01:42:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001527

alleviation and national

01:42:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001528

development as a whole. But

01:42:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001529

in terms of fiscal

01:42:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001530

sustainability and whatnot,

01:42:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001531

we are just checking

01:42:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001532

which particular

01:42:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001533

studies that we have on file

01:42:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001534

as of now. Madam Speaker.

01:42:53Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001535

Ano po ang growth strategy

01:42:55Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001536

sa likod ng proposed

01:42:56Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001537

2027 National Budget?

01:42:59Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001538

Para sa malalaking bagong gasusin, may

01:43:00Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001539

projection ba ang DepDev kung ilang trabaho

01:43:03Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001540

ang malilika at gano'n tataas

01:43:05Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001541

ang productivity?

01:43:06Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001542

At output sa loob ng isa, tatlo, at limang

01:43:08Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001543

taon? Kung wala pa,

01:43:10Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001544

kung wala, paano natin masasabing

01:43:11Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001545

developmental ang spending

01:43:14Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001546

ng 2027 National Budget?

01:43:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001547

At least on the part of

01:43:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001548

DepDev, Madam Speaker,

01:43:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001549

given the

01:43:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001550

external shocks that we've

01:43:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001551

experienced which have

01:43:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001552

impacted particular sectors,

01:43:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001553

in terms of informing

01:43:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001554

the crafting

01:43:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001555

of the budget,

01:43:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001556

there are

01:43:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001557

short-term and short-to-medium-term

01:43:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001558

measures that the DepDev has

01:43:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001559

ascertained,

01:44:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001560

particularly to

01:44:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001561

target support to vulnerable sectors.

01:44:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001562

So this is,

01:44:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001563

if I can just enumerate,

01:44:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001564

would that be okay to the

01:44:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001565

Honorable Erice?

01:44:12Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001566

Ano po ba ang epekto, hindi lang naman po siguro

01:44:17Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001567

yung external factors?

01:44:19Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001568

Hindi po ba pinag-aralan yung tungkol po sa

01:44:22Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001569

delayed public investment,

01:44:24Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001570

paghina ng private investment, at

01:44:26Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001571

epekto ng mga questionable infrastructure projects?

01:44:35Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001575

We cannot always blame

01:44:39Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001576

the external factors, samantalang

01:44:41Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001577

yung mga kalapit

01:44:43Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001578

bansa natin ay naka-recover na.

01:44:45Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001579

Tayo na lang hindi.

01:44:47Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001580

At pababa pa ng pababa

01:44:49Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001581

yung GDP natin.

01:44:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001582

Yes, thank you. Yes,

01:44:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001583

of course, Madam Speaker,

01:44:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001584

distinguished colleague.

01:44:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001585

For at least

01:44:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001586

one of the

01:45:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001587

the considerations at the depth of use

01:45:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001588

with regards to informing the budget

01:45:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001589

graphing

01:45:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001590

would be the fiscal multipliers.

01:45:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001591

So,

01:45:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001592

there are

01:45:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001593

different areas here

01:45:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001594

if I am allowed to enumerate.

01:45:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001595

So, public administration,

01:45:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001596

so the

01:45:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001597

gross value add,

01:45:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001598

the JVA multiplier,

01:45:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001599

is estimated at 2.03.

01:45:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001600

Agriculture

01:45:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001601

would be

01:45:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001602

1.24.

01:45:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001603

Public education,

01:45:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001604

the JVA multiplier would be at 2.33.

01:45:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001605

Public health would be

01:45:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001606

1.32.

01:45:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001607

Yes, so

01:45:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001608

these are different

01:45:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001609

areas,

01:45:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001610

different industries.

01:45:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001611

So, there is also

01:45:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001612

I guess a side-by-side

01:45:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001613

share on the NEP.

01:45:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001614

So, if you can furnish this copy

01:46:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001615

to the Honorable Erice,

01:46:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001616

so we can look at it.

01:46:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001617

It's a long list, and I don't want to

01:46:06Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001618

take up the time.

01:46:08Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001619

Ano po ang input, Madam Chair?

01:46:12Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001620

Madam Speaker,

01:46:14Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001621

ng DEP-DEB

01:46:16Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001622

dun sa paghahanay

01:46:18Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001623

ng mga paggastot.

01:46:20Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001624

For example,

01:46:22Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001625

in capital outlay,

01:46:26Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001626

malaki po yung

01:46:27Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001627

mga lump sum appropriations,

01:46:28Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001628

ayuda,

01:46:30Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001629

LGSF,

01:46:31Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001630

pero binawasan yung

01:46:32Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001631

para sa human capital

01:46:35Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001632

like education

01:46:36Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001633

and health

01:46:39Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001634

and agriculture.

01:46:41Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001635

May participation po ba

01:46:43Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001636

ang DEP-DEB?

01:46:44Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001637

o

01:46:44Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001638

hindi ba dapat

01:46:48Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001639

ang DEP-DEB yung pinaka

01:46:50Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001640

nagbibigay

01:46:52Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001641

ng payo

01:46:53Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001642

sa

01:46:55Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001643

DBCC?

01:46:58Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001644

Kung ano yung mga tamang

01:47:00Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001645

dapat pagkagastusan

01:47:02Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001646

ng pamala na tama para sa

01:47:06Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001647

mas permanenteng pagunlad

01:47:08Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001648

ng ating bansa?

01:47:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001649

Yes, Madam Speaker.

01:47:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001650

The DEP-DEB is part of

01:47:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001651

the Economic Development Council

01:47:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001652

that advises

01:47:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001653

policies on economic development.

01:47:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001654

So, these are periodic

01:47:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001655

meetings

01:47:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001656

that report to the Office of the President.

01:47:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001658

Besides that,

01:47:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001659

the DEP-DEB is also part of the

01:47:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001660

DBCC.

01:47:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001661

So, I think it's constant.

01:47:35Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001662

Ano pong input ng DEP-DEB? Tama ba yung

01:47:37Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001663

ginawa ng

01:47:39Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001664

DBCC na bawasan yung

01:47:41Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001665

for human capital like education,

01:47:43Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001666

health, and agriculture, tapos

01:47:45Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001667

dagdagan, malakihin

01:47:47Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001668

yung sa ayuda

01:47:49Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001669

sa mga lump sum appropriations

01:47:51Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001670

for discretionary

01:47:53Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001671

funds?

01:47:55Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001672

Tama po ba yun? Ito ba yung may

01:47:57Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001673

economic impact na mas malaki

01:47:59Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001674

kaysa sa human capital?

01:48:01Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001675

Yung mga ganitong uri ng

01:48:03Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001676

paggastos?

01:48:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001677

Yes.

01:48:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001678

Madam Speaker,

01:48:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001679

as for the DEP-DEB,

01:48:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001680

in terms

01:48:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001681

of the decreases, just speaking to the

01:48:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001682

decreases, there

01:48:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001683

was in certain sectors

01:48:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001684

in particular areas, a one-off

01:48:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001685

increase

01:48:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001686

because of what

01:48:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001687

happened in the last budget

01:48:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001688

deliberation.

01:48:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001689

So, that

01:48:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001690

at least on the part of DEP-DEB, that's one of the

01:48:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001691

reasons why there has been a nominal decrease

01:48:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001692

in some

01:48:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001693

like the nominal value of

01:48:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001694

particular budget proposals

01:48:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001695

for particular sectors.

01:48:51Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001696

Thank you Madam

01:48:53Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001697

Speaker, Madam Chair. Pero

01:48:55Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001698

bakit napakalaking

01:48:57Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001699

ng pondo para sa mga ayuda

01:48:59Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001700

sa LGSF, samantalang

01:49:01Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001701

yung utilization rate naman nila

01:49:03Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001702

noong 2025,

01:49:05Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001703

2026 ay hindi

01:49:07Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001704

pa ganap at napakababa?

01:49:09Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001705

Bakit yun ang dinadagdagan?

01:49:11Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001706

Bakit yung

01:49:13Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001707

pondo para sa

01:49:15Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001708

edukasyon, para sa health?

01:49:17Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001709

Bakit yun ang binabawasan?

01:49:21Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001710

Hindi ko po masyadong maunawaan

01:49:23Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001711

na,

01:49:25Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001712

malaki pa ang pondo. Sabi nga

01:49:27Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001713

kanina, 58% lang

01:49:29Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001714

yung utilization rate ng

01:49:31Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001715

LGSF.

01:49:33Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001716

Napakalaki po ng mga pondo

01:49:35Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001717

para sa

01:49:37Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001718

IEX,

01:49:39Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001719

TUPAD na hindi pa naman naungubos.

01:49:41Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001720

Bakit pinalaki

01:49:43Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001721

pa ito ngayon,

01:49:45Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001722

pagkatapos binawasan

01:49:47Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001723

yung para sa edukasyon, health,

01:49:49Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001724

at sa agrikultura? Ano pong

01:49:51Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001725

ah

01:49:53Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001726

ano pong

01:49:55Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001727

makabuluhang dahilan

01:49:57Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001728

bakit ito ginawa?

01:50:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001729

Madam Speaker,

01:50:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001730

with regards to the NEP,

01:50:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001731

the crafting of the NEP, the

01:50:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001732

DEP-DEV doesn't have

01:50:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001733

purview over the crafting of the NEP.

01:50:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001734

So the DEP-DEV can't speak

01:50:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001735

with regards to

01:50:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001736

the allocations of sectors.

01:50:19Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001737

Ang DEP-DEV po ay

01:50:21Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001738

hindi

01:50:23Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001739

parte ng policy making

01:50:25Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001740

in terms of

01:50:27Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001741

items of

01:50:29Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001742

expenditures

01:50:31Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001743

that should be prioritized

01:50:33Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001744

by the government?

01:50:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001745

With regards to

01:50:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001746

the prioritization of sectors,

01:50:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001747

DEP-DEV is involved

01:50:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001748

in the prioritization

01:50:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001749

of the sectors,

01:50:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001750

which would reflect

01:50:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001751

in the NEP.

01:51:01Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001752

So hindi po

01:51:03Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001753

na-prioritize, wala pong input

01:51:05Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001754

sa prioritization

01:51:07Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001755

ang DEP-DEV pagdating po sa edukasyon,

01:51:09Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001756

sa health, sa pagbabawas nito,

01:51:11Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001757

at sa pagdadagdag

01:51:13Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001758

sa mga ayuda,

01:51:15Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001759

LGSF,

01:51:17Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001760

wala po bang input dito

01:51:19Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001761

ang DEP-DEV?

01:51:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001762

DEP-DEV recommends,

01:51:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001763

Madam Speaker,

01:51:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001764

in line with

01:51:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001765

whatever it is

01:51:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001766

that is incorporated

01:51:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001767

into the Philippine Development Plan.

01:51:33Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001768

Pwede ko bang sabihin

01:51:35Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001769

na ang naging priority

01:51:37Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001770

ng Administrasyong Marcos

01:51:39Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001771

ay hindi po

01:51:41Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001772

yung magpapaunlad

01:51:43Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001773

ng ating

01:51:45Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001774

ekonomiya, kundi

01:51:47Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001775

kung paano

01:51:49Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001776

mapagbibigyan yung mga kaalyado

01:51:51Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001777

sa politika?

01:51:53Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001778

Yan po ba yan? Dahil karamihan po

01:51:55Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001779

ng mga ayuda, lalo na ng LGSF,

01:51:57Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001780

ay binibigay sa mga

01:51:59Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001781

politiko, sa mga

01:52:01Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001782

local government.

01:52:03Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001783

Pwede ko bang masabi yun?

01:52:05Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001784

Pwede bang maging

01:52:07Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001785

conclusion natin yun?

01:52:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001786

Well,

01:52:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001787

DEP-DEV really just recommends

01:52:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001788

policies in line with

01:52:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001789

the objectives of the Philippine Development Plan,

01:52:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001790

Madam Speaker.

01:52:39Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001800

I just hope that

01:52:41Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001801

in the

01:52:43Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001802

2028 budget,

01:52:45Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001803

yung funding for human capital

01:52:47Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001804

development,

01:52:49Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001805

livelihood support,

01:52:51Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001806

and productivity

01:52:53Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001807

ay prioritized na po

01:52:55Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001808

sa pamagitan ng recommendation

01:52:57Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001809

ng DEP-DEV

01:52:59Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001810

sapagkat

01:53:01Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001811

kayo naman po ang inaasahan

01:53:03Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001812

na siyang magbibigay

01:53:05Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001813

ng direction, policy direction

01:53:07Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001814

pang

01:53:09Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001815

mangat ang buhay ng ating

01:53:11Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001816

mga kababayan, mangat ang buhay

01:53:13Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001817

ng ating

01:53:15Source

Rep. Edgar R. Erice

asr-001818

bansa. Maraming salamat po.

01:53:19Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001819

Majority Leader?

01:53:25Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001821

Madam Speaker,

01:53:25Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001822

I'd like to recognize

01:53:27Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001823

Congressman Serge

01:53:28Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001824

Dagooc for his

01:53:30Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-001825

interpellation.

01:53:40Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001826

Representative Dagooc

01:53:41Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001827

is now recognized

01:53:42Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-001828

for his interpellation.

01:53:51Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001829

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

01:53:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001830

Thank you, Majority Leader.

01:53:55Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001831

For the

01:53:57Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001832

distinguished sponsor,

01:53:59Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001833

yield to

01:54:01Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001834

only one issue

01:54:03Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001835

for the DEP-DEV.

01:54:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001836

Yes, Madam Speaker.

01:54:07Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001837

Thank you,

01:54:09Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001838

Madam Speaker. Thank you,

01:54:11Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001839

distinguished sponsor.

01:54:13Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001840

First of all,

01:54:15Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001841

I appreciate

01:54:17Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001842

the

01:54:19Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001843

timely

01:54:23Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001844

submission of

01:54:25Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001845

DEP-DEV

01:54:27Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001846

on the data I have requested

01:54:29Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001847

during the budget briefing.

01:54:31Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001848

But as a backgrounder,

01:54:33Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001849

I did not only

01:54:35Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001850

ask this data during

01:54:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001851

the budget briefing.

01:54:39Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001852

In the previous committee hearings

01:54:41Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001853

of the Committee on Ways and Means,

01:54:43Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001854

particularly when we

01:54:45Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001855

deliberated the

01:54:47Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001856

bill granting special powers,

01:54:49Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001857

to the President,

01:54:51Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001858

Ay lumipad pa nga ako dito

01:54:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001859

dahil break 'yun

01:54:55Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001860

para lang maka-attend sa Ways and Means.

01:54:57Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001861

Yung special

01:54:59Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001862

power to

01:55:01Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001863

suspend

01:55:03Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001864

some taxes

01:55:05Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001865

on oil.

01:55:07Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001866

Pero hindi po

01:55:09Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001867

nakapagbigay si PSA

01:55:11Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001868

at saka si DTI.

01:55:13Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001869

Because I wanted to know

01:55:15Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001870

the percentage share

01:55:17Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001871

of electricity

01:55:19Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001872

and oil

01:55:21Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001873

on the cost of production

01:55:23Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001874

and

01:55:25Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001875

services.

01:55:27Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001876

Cost of

01:55:29Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001877

products and services.

01:55:31Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001878

So,

01:55:33Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001879

kaya inulit ko 'to,

01:55:35Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001880

nagtuturuan yung dalawa.

01:55:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001881

Bakit ko hiningi 'yon?

01:55:39Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001882

Napakaimportante 'yon. Kasi

01:55:41Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001883

I wanted to make sure

01:55:43Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001884

na the

01:55:45Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001885

amount of any

01:55:47Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001886

revenue na

01:55:49Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001887

na [unclear] ng government

01:55:51Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001888

para lang mabawasan yung presyo,

01:55:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001889

would reflect the

01:55:55Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001890

price of that goods.

01:55:57Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001891

And in the case of oil,

01:55:59Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001892

would reflect the pump price.

01:56:01Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001894

Kung tanggalan natin ng excise tax yung 12 pesos per liter, dapat mag-reflect yung reduction na 12 pesos per liter sa pump price.

01:56:11Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001898

Kung mabawasan natin, with yung advocacy ko since 2019, na wala ngang VAT yung systems loss. Dahil losses na nga yun eh.

01:56:23Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001904

It is not a product, not a service. Pero after seven years lang na-realize ko, napakaliit yung systems loss na yan compared doon sa buong taxes ng kuryente natin na pinapatawan ng multiple taxes.

01:56:44Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001915

Ngayon hindi maibigay-bigay. Inulit ko lately sa DBCC na ibigay naman ni DepDev noong September 14, kasi ang usapan bago mag-plenary.

01:57:02Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001923

But to my surprise, ang binigay ni DepDev na data galing sa PSA is 2018.

01:57:15Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001930

So, when I look at the budget of Dipdib, pinakamalaki yung PSA

01:57:25Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001931

Dahil nga, isa sana sa mga tanong ko kanina, pakit biglang lumubo yung budget ng PSA

01:57:33Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001932

Pero naitanong na ng mga kasamahan ko

01:57:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001933

So, parang nag-catch up si PSA

01:57:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001934

So, ngayon, ano ang hugot ko dito sa 2018?

01:57:45Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001935

So, doon ko napagtanto, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor

01:57:52Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001936

Na inconsistent yung presentation ni Dipdib during the budget briefing

01:58:00Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001937

Kasi, on that presentation, Dipdib admitted na isa sa pangunahing sanhi na bumaba yung FDI natin

01:58:13Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001938

Ay dahil yung napakataas ang cost of electricity

01:58:18Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001939

Which I agree

01:58:20Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001940

Pero kung tingnan mo yung mga proposed na solutions and recommendation

01:58:27Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001941

Nasa long term po yung part ng electricity

01:58:31Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001942

So, there is inconsistency

01:58:34Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001943

Now, dadagdagan pa ng recommendation ng PPP

01:58:43Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001944

Na i-PPP yung rehabilitasyon or i-privatize yung Agus and Pulangi

01:58:50Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001945

Which is, for me, mali na naman yung data na ginamit

01:58:55Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001946

Maybe in the evaluation

01:58:56Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001947

Kasi dito sa 2018, if this is the basis

01:59:00Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001948

Talagang lumilitaw na maliit lang yung percentage share ng electricity

01:59:07Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001949

Doon sa cost of productions

01:59:09Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001950

So, sa products and services

01:59:11Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001951

Dahil napakamura

01:59:13Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001952

Ang kurinti nung 2018

01:59:15Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001953

Kaya siguro, napagdesisyonan

01:59:18Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001954

I-privatize na lang natin

01:59:20Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001955

Which is not the case at present

01:59:22Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001956

Itong data na 2018

01:59:25Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001957

Kung this is the basis of the recommendation

01:59:27Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001958

Ay maling-mali

01:59:29Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001959

Kasi mataas na po yung share or cost ng electricity

01:59:34Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001960

Biruin mo ang domino effect nito

01:59:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001961

We are funding billions of pesos sa infrastructure

01:59:41Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001962

Ilang libo

01:59:43Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001963

Or milyon, milyones na sako ng siminto ang kailangan

01:59:48Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001964

Doon sa mga infra natin

01:59:50Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001965

Ilang kabilya yung minamanufacture

01:59:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001966

Eh kung tansyahin mo yung cost of electricity

01:59:56Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001967

To produce those infra

02:00:00Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001968

Ang laki sana ng ginhawa natin kung natutukan natin yung kurinti aside sa pagpasok ng FDI that can generate employment, generate revenue in terms of taxes, etc., etc., we can reduce the cost of budget for infra na magamit natin sa ano.

02:00:21Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001969

Pero hindi natutukan yung kuryente dahil palagay ko mali yung mga data na [unclear]. Very clear po, Madam Speaker, yung mandate ng PSA sa charter nila: timely and accurate data na gagamitin ng ating gobyerno to determine doon sa mga ire-recommend na projects and programs for economic

02:00:51Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001970

development. Kaya po, ang itatanong ko ngayon, sino po sa DepDev ang nag-prepare nito? I give the benefit of the doubt.

02:01:09Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001971

I'm managing two electric distribution utilities for the last 33 years.

02:01:17Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001972

Annually, we filled up.

02:01:21Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001973

On time, yung survey form ng PSA sa Karaga.

02:01:27Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001974

Pag natanggap namin, two days after, binabalik na namin.

02:01:31Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001975

Bakit 2018 pa?

02:01:33Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001976

Yet yung electrification program ang busy sa unenergized households, 2015.

02:01:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001977

Ngayon, 8 billion yata yung hiningi. Parang nag-catch up ang PSA.

02:01:44Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001978

So nakikita ko itong agency na to.

02:01:48Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001979

Mukhang is a contributor.

02:01:51Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001980

Sa mga maling recommendation.

02:01:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001981

So erase the doubt.

02:01:55Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001982

Then, sino po yung specific name of person na nag-prepare nitong letter na to?

02:02:01Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001983

At sino yung person, personnel sa PSA na nagbigay nito?

02:02:08Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001984

Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker.

02:02:12Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001985

Thank you.

02:02:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001988

While hinahanap niyo yung tao,

02:02:45Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001989

[unclear] ni good Secretary of DepDev,

02:02:49Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001990

what is the basic tool

02:02:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001994

na ginagamit nyo

02:02:55Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001995

as a

02:02:57Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001996

criteria. One of the basic

02:02:59Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001997

tool or one of the basic

02:03:00Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001998

criteria na ginagamit nyo

02:03:03Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-001999

sa pag-recommend

02:03:05Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002000

sa LIDAC, for example,

02:03:07Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002001

na ito yung mga gagawin natin.

02:03:09Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002002

Particularly on economic

02:03:11Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002003

development. Kasi yan yung

02:03:13Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002004

trabaho ninyo. Anong ginagamit

02:03:15Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002005

nyo na tool?

02:03:17Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002006

Distinguished sponsor.

02:03:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002007

Madam Speaker, just to

02:03:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002008

address the first point,

02:03:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002009

the input-output

02:03:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002010

survey...

02:03:30Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002011

No, tinatanong ko

02:03:32Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002012

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

02:03:35Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002013

ano yung

02:03:36Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002014

basic tool while hinahanap nyo yung

02:03:38Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002015

tao? Kasi kanina yung

02:03:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002016

hinihingi ko, sinong tao?

02:03:43Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002017

Kasi parang

02:03:44Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002018

nagtuturuan na dito na

02:03:46Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002019

hindi naman sulat nila

02:03:48Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002020

to. So, galing

02:03:50Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002021

ito sa kaninong tao.

02:03:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002022

While we're waiting for that

02:03:54Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002023

pangalan ng tao,

02:03:56Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002024

ano bang basic tool na ginagamit

02:03:58Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002025

ni DipDip

02:03:59Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002026

to evaluate? Anong program?

02:04:02Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002027

Anong

02:04:03Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002028

development

02:04:06Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002029

development programs

02:04:11Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002030

na

02:04:12Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002031

kanyang isasama sa LIDAC

02:04:14Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002032

and ultimately to the NIP?

02:04:19Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002033

Diba, Mr.

02:04:20Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002034

Diba, Distinguished Sponsor,

02:04:24Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002035

Mr. Secretary, DITA.

02:04:27Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002036

Diba DITA ang ginagamit ninyo?

02:04:30Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002037

Am I correct?

02:04:33Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002038

Am I correct? DITA,

02:04:35Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002039

isa sa mga basic tools na

02:04:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002040

ginagamit ninyo.

02:04:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002041

Am I correct?

02:04:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002042

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:04:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002043

So, the DepDev uses

02:04:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002044

econometrics.

02:04:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002045

It's a macroeconomic,

02:04:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002046

macroeconomic,

02:04:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002047

models.

02:04:51Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002048

But that model uses DITA.

02:04:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002049

Yes.

02:04:54Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002050

So, kung mali yung DITA,

02:04:57Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002051

ika nga garbage in,

02:04:59Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002052

garbage out. Tama po ba ako,

02:05:01Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002053

Madam Speaker?

02:05:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002054

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:05:04Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002055

So, kung mali yung DITA, mali yung may

02:05:06Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002056

recommend ninyo kasi mali yung pananaw ninyo

02:05:08Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002057

sa isang bagay. That is how

02:05:10Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002058

important. Kaya medyo,

02:05:12Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002059

I am frustrated

02:05:14Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002060

with what I have received.

02:05:16Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002061

So, ngayon, sino yung tao na yun na

02:05:18Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002062

nagbigay? Hindi siya dapat

02:05:20Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002063

maratili sa either sa

02:05:22Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002064

DepDev or sa PSE.

02:05:25Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002065

Kasi napakalaking

02:05:27Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002066

pinsala yung ginawa niya

02:05:28Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002067

kung nagbigay siya ng mali na DITA.

02:05:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002076

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:05:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002077

You recognize the sentiments,

02:06:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002078

definitely the concerns of

02:06:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002079

Honorable Tagoo.

02:06:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002080

Just to give a background about

02:06:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002081

this, the input, the IO

02:06:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002082

survey,

02:06:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002083

the IO tables, the input-output tables.

02:06:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002084

The survey,

02:06:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002085

which is the

02:06:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002105

CPBIO,

02:06:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002106

the Census of Businesses and Industries

02:06:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002107

survey.

02:06:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002108

These are conducted

02:06:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002109

every six years.

02:06:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002110

So from the part

02:06:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002111

of DepDev, according to DepDev,

02:06:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002112

the data that was given to the

02:06:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002113

Honorable Tagoo was for the

02:06:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002114

2018

02:06:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002115

IOs.

02:06:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002117

The most recent

02:06:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002118

survey was conducted in 2025,

02:06:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002119

with reference to the

02:06:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002143

2024 data. There is preliminary

02:06:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002144

data which the PSA is ready to provide.

02:07:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002145

However, these are not official statistics yet.

02:07:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002146

An indulgence of Honorable Tagoo, the PSA has given its commitment that if the Honorable Tagoo

02:07:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002147

desires to see the preliminary data, particularly with the IO,

02:07:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002148

and electricity costs, Madam Speaker, the PSA is ready.

02:07:23Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002159

Distinguished Sponsor,

02:07:25Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002161

it is not acceptable to me.

02:07:28Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002162

Ang tanong ko,

02:07:30Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002163

is it provided

02:07:32Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002164

in your charter

02:07:33Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002165

yung

02:07:35Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002166

six years na

02:07:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002167

survey o

02:07:38Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002168

kayo-kayo lang ang nag-sit na

02:07:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002169

every three years, every two years, every six years?

02:07:43Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002170

Is it provided

02:07:44Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002171

under 10.625?

02:07:48Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002172

Kasi napaka-importante itong mga

02:07:49Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002173

data na 'to.

02:07:50Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002174

Pero biruin mo yung layo ng presyo ng kuryente sa six years, tapos gawin mong six years yung mga data na 'yan. Buti kung households lang 'yan; it does not affect the economic decisions. No, yung mga economic recommendations, it affects.

02:08:10Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002175

Kasi six years na cost ng electricity. For example, to be specific, yung 2018 na kuryente sa Mindanao ay six pesos, eight pesos, nineteen pesos na ngayon.

02:08:23Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002176

Sinong nagsit ng 6 years? Is that compliant with your charter which specifically provides that you are created to give timely and accurate data for use sa gobyerno natin?

02:08:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002177

Is that timely yung 6 years? O kayo-kayo lang ang nagsit para hindi kayo mahirapan?

02:08:49Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002178

Can you imagine, I know, the good Secretary Balisakan, ay naintindihan mo ako, because you are aware, ano yung cost nitong hinihingi ko, anong impact nito sa ating budget process, priority decision of project.

02:09:09Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002179

Kaya hindi.

02:09:10Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002180

Hindi po para sa akin, hindi po maliit na bagay itong 28 na data, tapos gagamitin mo sa 2027 na budget.

02:09:20Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002181

Hindi maliit na bagay yun. Napakataas na discrepancy yun na magkamali yung desisyon mo.

02:09:28Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002182

Biroin mo yung asawa mo kung mag-prepare ng budget mo sa 2027, ibigay mo lang yung sahod mo sa 2028 na sahod mo.

02:09:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002183

Tama ba yun?

02:09:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002184

Yes, Madam Speaker, as per the DepDev, all the timings of the surveys are determined by the PSA Board. So this is an interagency board.

02:09:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002185

So, it's shared by the DepDev Secretary, but there are multiple members.

02:10:06Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002186

Madam Speaker, with all jurisprudence.

02:10:10Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002187

Hindi po sagot sa ating problema sa pag-determine ng priority projects at recommendations on our economic development program, yung kung sinong namumuno at dahil sinit nila yan ng 6 years, 5 years, 4 years, ay tama na sila.

02:10:36Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002188

I'm asking, is that compliant?

02:10:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002189

Is that compliant or consistent or in accordance with the provisions of your charter na sinasabi timely and accurate?

02:10:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002190

That is no longer accurate. 2018 is not accurate with the data of 2025. So you are violating your charter.

02:11:02Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002191

So ngayon, bakit hingi kayo ng budget?

02:11:04Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002192

You are not even compliant with what you are doing.

02:11:09Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002193

You are not compliant.

02:11:10Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002194

You are not compliant with your charter.

02:11:11Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002195

So, hindi ko na ito pahabain for the interest of time.

02:11:14Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002196

Ayaw kong i-hostage yung mga kasamaan ko.

02:11:16Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002197

So, hindi ko na ituloy.

02:11:19Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002198

Kasi, sawa na po ako sa 7 taon na yung mga agency, patapusin lang nila yung oras ng interpelator.

02:11:29Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002199

Naghihintay kami, naghihintay yung asawa ko.

02:11:32Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002200

Tapos, nakajakit na nga, nakamaro, nakaano pa.

02:11:35Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002201

Tapos, wala namang mangyari.

02:11:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002202

Pagkatapos, ay anyway, approved naman nila yun.

02:11:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002203

Sige, hindi ko na ituloy.

02:11:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002204

I've been years na ako sa ganito.

02:11:42Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002205

Alam ng mga tao dito sa roles na hindi ako umalis dito habang ano.

02:11:48Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002206

Kaya, it is unacceptable for me na gani-ganito na lang.

02:11:54Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002207

Kasi, napakalaki ang impact na dita na ito sa ating desisyon sa pag-budget.

02:12:00Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002208

Sa rekomendasyon ng dip-dip.

02:12:02Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002209

Kaya, you are created by law para magbigay ng rekomendasyon.

02:12:08Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002210

At alam ko, dita yung ginagawa.

02:12:10Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002211

Nagamit ninyo sa pag-evaluate kung ano yung i-recommend nyo.

02:12:16Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002212

Ngayon, kung mali yung dita, garbage in, garbage out nga.

02:12:20Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002213

So, I will not prolong the agony of others.

02:12:25Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002214

Tatapusin ko na yung interpellation ko sa dip-dip.

02:12:31Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002215

Including yung PSA.

02:12:35Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002216

Mamaya na lang.

02:12:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002217

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

02:12:38Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-002218

Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor.

02:12:41Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002219

[unclear] Leader.

02:12:43Source

Rep. Brian Poe

asr-002220

Madam Speaker, we'd like to now call upon Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party List for his interpellation.

02:12:51Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002221

Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party List is now recognized for his interpellation.

02:13:07Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002222

So, just to clarify, this is for DBM already.

02:13:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002223

I'll go right to my questions

02:13:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002224

Madam Chair

02:13:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002225

Hold muna

02:13:30Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002226

Paki suspend yung time

02:13:40Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002227

Madam Chair

02:13:43Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002228

The Chair would like to request our

02:13:46Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002229

Technical Committee

02:13:48Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002230

to please suspend the time or return it to zero

02:13:50Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002231

since the

02:13:51Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002232

Representative Nassal has not yet started

02:13:54Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002233

asking questions

02:13:55Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002234

Please stop the time

02:13:57Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002235

You may proceed

02:13:59Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002236

Thank you Madam Chair

02:14:01Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002237

Distinguished colleague

02:14:05Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002238

So for DBM

02:14:06Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002239

Gusto ko lang pong balikan yung

02:14:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002240

pinakel natin kanina

02:14:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002241

Madam Chair

02:14:14Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002242

Madam

02:14:17Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002243

Distinguished colleague

02:14:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002244

I just would like to express

02:14:21Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002245

na

02:14:21Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002246

Tama po ba

02:14:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002247

that you cannot suspend an expenditure

02:14:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002248

under Section 38

02:14:31Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002249

when there is no SARO

02:14:32Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002250

or allotment yet

02:14:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002251

So I would just like to clear that up

02:14:36Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002252

Minabalikan ko lang po yung pinag-usapan kanina

02:14:40Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002253

Yung sa Section 38 po

02:14:48Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002254

yung suspension of expenditure of appropriations

02:14:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002255

except as otherwise provided

02:14:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002256

in the General Appropriations Act

02:14:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002257

and whenever in his judgment

02:14:57Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002258

the public interest so requires

02:14:59Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002259

the President

02:15:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002265

Upon notice to the head of the office concerned, it is authorized to suspend or otherwise stop further expenditure of funds allotted for the agency or any other expenditure authorized in the GAA except for personal services, appropriations used for permanent officials and employees.

02:15:20Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002266

So kinaklarify ko lang po.

02:15:25Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002267

Please suspend my time.

02:15:30Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002268

Pakitigilan po.

02:15:33Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002269

Thank you.

02:15:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002270

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:15:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002271

We can suspend appropriations without initial allotment.

02:15:52Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002272

Bawal po sa Arawlio.

02:15:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002273

Very clear po yun.

02:15:58Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002274

You cannot suspend.

02:15:59Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002275

Ano?

02:16:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002276

Ang tinatanong ko po, kinaklarify ko, you cannot suspend an expenditure under Section 38 when there is no SARO or allotment yet.

02:16:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002277

Yes or no?

02:16:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002278

Time please.

02:16:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002279

Madam Speaker,

02:16:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002280

Madam Speaker,

02:16:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002281

Madam Speaker,

02:16:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002282

The particular provision or the particular paragraph that the Honorable Nazal is referring to, according to the DBM, is not part of the actual decision of the Supreme Court.

02:16:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002283

It's part of a separate opinion.

02:16:49Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002284

Nandun po sa Section 38 nung EO 292 Administrative Code of 1987, Book 6, Chapter 5.

02:17:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002285

Section 38.

02:17:01Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002286

Suspension of expenditure of appropriations.

02:17:04Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002287

It's very specific.

02:17:06Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002288

Ang sinasabi po doon, you cannot suspend an expenditure without allotment.

02:17:17Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002289

So I just want us to agree.

02:17:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002290

My time please.

02:18:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002296

Kasi kung sinasabi niyo po na hindi na?

02:18:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002297

Madam Speaker, if I am allowed? Oh, sorry. Madam Speaker, if I will be allowed to read the particular paragraph as relevant to the question of the Honorable Nazal. In contrast, the respondents emphasized that NBC No. 541 adopted a spending, not saving, policy as a last-ditch effort of the executive to push agencies into actually spending their appropriations.

02:19:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002298

That such policy did not amount to an impoundment scheme because impoundment referred to the decision of the executive to refuse to spend funds for political or ideological reasons.

02:19:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002299

And that the withdrawal of…

02:19:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002300

The withdrawal of allotments under NBC No. 541 was made pursuant to Section 38, Chapter 5, Book 6 of the Administrative Code,

02:19:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002301

by which the President was granted the authority to suspend or otherwise stop further expenditure of funds allotted to any agency.

02:19:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002302

Twice, Madam Chair and Distinguished Colleague, twice you mentioned allotment.

02:19:59Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002303

Allotted, allotment.

02:20:01Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002304

So, ang tinatanong ko lang po is, ang pwede lang po ba i-suspend ay yung allotted?

02:20:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002305

Yes or no?

02:20:16Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002306

Nakalagay po yung sinabi niyo doon sa NBC, allotment, allotted.

02:20:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002307

So, pag hindi allotted, pwede ba i-suspend?

02:20:27Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002308

Yes or no?

02:20:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002309

So, as for the DBM, we can suspend for both locations and allotment.

02:20:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002310

Were there already suspended na hindi allotted?

02:20:49Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002311

Meron na po tayo mga sinuspend na hindi allotted?

02:20:52Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002312

Yes.

02:20:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002313

The DBM has not invoked Section 38 as of today.

02:21:05Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002314

Sorry, I cannot hear you.

02:21:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002315

Madam Speaker.

02:21:07Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002316

Can you please speak again, again? Sorry.

02:21:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002317

The DBM has not invoked Section 38 as of today.

02:21:14Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002318

They have not invoked Section 38. So, wala pa tayo na sususpend na hindi allotted?

02:21:20Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002319

Wala pa tayo na sususpend na allotted either?

02:21:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002320

The DBM has not suspended either the allotment or the appropriation.

02:21:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002322

As of today.

02:21:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002323

But are you saying that you can suspend even if it's not allotted?

02:21:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002324

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:21:46Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002325

That is what you're saying.

02:21:47Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002326

You have to really take a look at that kasi bawal po yun.

02:21:52Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002327

Expressly stated yan doon sa administrative code.

02:21:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002328

Yes, but the DBM assures that it has not...

02:21:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002329

It has not done any suspension with regards to both appropriations and allotment.

02:22:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002330

I respectfully disagree po na pwede po tayo mag-suspend ng hindi allotted.

02:22:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002331

The Supreme Court in Araulio v. Aquino was categorical.

02:22:17Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002332

The President cannot exercise the power to suspend or stop expenditure under Section 38

02:22:23Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002333

towards appropriations as funds for it have yet to be released and allotted.

02:22:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002334

And that is very specifically stated doon po sa Araulio v. Aquino.

02:22:36Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002335

This is what you're saying.

02:22:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002336

Yes.

02:22:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002337

Just to reiterate, Madam Speaker,

02:22:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002338

that particular provision that the Honorable Nazales is referring to

02:22:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002339

is a part of a separate opinion.

02:22:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002340

It's not part of the decision of the Supreme Court.

02:22:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002341

No, that is part of the Supreme Court decision.

02:22:55Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002342

It is very specific.

02:22:57Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002343

It is stated exactly...

02:22:59Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002344

Exactly in the decision.

02:23:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002345

Kahit...

02:23:04Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002346

And even if you go back to Section 38,

02:23:08Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002347

basahin niyo po yung Section 38 nung National...

02:23:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002348

nung Book 6, nung Administrative Code of 1987.

02:23:16Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002349

Nandun po.

02:23:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002350

Hindi pwede.

02:23:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002351

Madam Speaker, as for the filists of the DBM,

02:23:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002352

it's a part of a separate opinion.

02:23:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002353

It's a part of a separate opinion by Justice Biron.

02:23:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002354

So it's not part of the decision of the Supreme Court.

02:23:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002355

As for DBM files.

02:23:44Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002356

You have...

02:23:44Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002357

Tignan na lang po natin.

02:23:46Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002358

I will also show you the specific provision cited

02:23:48Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002359

based on the decision.

02:23:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002360

Anyway, my next question is...

02:23:57Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002361

Nagkakaintindihan po tayo

02:23:59Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002365

That suspension is temporary.

02:24:05Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002366

So a merely suspended project

02:24:07Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002367

cannot be treated as savings.

02:24:09Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002368

Tama po ba?

02:24:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002369

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:24:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002370

It can qualify as savings only

02:24:15Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002371

when the applicable GAA requirements

02:24:17Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002372

are independently satisfied.

02:24:19Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002373

For example, completion,

02:24:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002374

final discontinuance or abandonment,

02:24:24Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002375

or balances resulting from efficiency measures.

02:24:27Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002376

Correct?

02:24:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002377

Final discontinuance, abandonment.

02:24:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002378

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:24:38Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002379

So hindi pwedeng suspended lang ang project

02:24:40Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002380

pero savings na agad ang pera.

02:24:43Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002381

Tama po.

02:24:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002382

As for DBM, those are two different matters, Madam Speaker.

02:24:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002383

No, no. That is not a different matter.

02:24:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002384

I am just asking

02:24:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002385

if

02:24:55Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002386

we suspend some...

02:24:58Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002387

Pagka meron tayong...

02:24:59Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002388

sinuspend na project,

02:25:01Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002389

hindi ito automatically treated as savings.

02:25:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002390

Tama?

02:25:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002391

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:25:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002392

It's not automatic that

02:25:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002393

if we suspend, it's automatically saved.

02:25:14Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002394

So, Madam Chair,

02:25:16Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002395

Distinguished Colleague,

02:25:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002396

ngayon po i-connect naman natin ito sa NBC603.

02:25:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002397

Sa mga 2026 expenditures

02:25:24Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002398

na pinatigil or suspended

02:25:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002399

or subsequently treated as savings

02:25:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002400

under NBC603,

02:25:31Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002401

did DBM

02:25:32Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002402

require proof

02:25:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002403

that each amount independently

02:25:37Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002404

satisfied the legal definition of savings,

02:25:39Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002405

not merely that it remained

02:25:41Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002406

unobligated?

02:25:59Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002408

May time, please.

02:26:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002409

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:26:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002410

The agency head

02:26:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002411

is required to submit

02:26:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002412

a certification that

02:26:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002413

the following

02:26:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002414

requirements are

02:26:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002415

complied with.

02:26:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002416

So, completion,

02:26:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002417

final discontinuance,

02:26:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002418

or abandonment of a program activity

02:26:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002419

or project for which the appropriation

02:26:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002420

is authorized,

02:26:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002421

or the implementation of measures

02:26:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002422

resulting in improved systems

02:26:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002423

and efficiencies.

02:26:36Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002424

So, we have a project level,

02:26:38Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002425

Madam Chair, certification

02:26:40Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002426

showing the specific

02:26:41Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002427

legal ground.

02:26:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002428

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:26:46Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002429

Per project po yan?

02:26:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002430

Per project, yes.

02:26:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002431

And can we get a copy?

02:26:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002432

A copy.

02:26:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002433

Okay.

02:26:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002435

Yes, the DBM commits

02:27:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002436

to submitting.

02:27:04Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002437

Thank you, Distinguished Colleague, Madam Chair.

02:27:06Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002438

My next question is,

02:27:09Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002439

Madam Chair,

02:27:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002440

nung unang hearing

02:27:11Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002441

with the DBM, dun sa ating

02:27:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002442

DBM briefing,

02:27:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002443

nakala natin

02:27:19Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002444

nasa DPWH pa ang problema.

02:27:23Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002445

Ngayon, sinabi ng

02:27:24Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002446

DPWH nung kanilang briefing

02:27:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002447

na binalik na siya,

02:27:27Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002448

binalik na sa DBM

02:27:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002449

yung mga SARO

02:27:30Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002450

nung September 2025.

02:27:33Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002451

Kahit March 2025 pa lamang

02:27:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002452

na-issue ang mga SARO.

02:27:38Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002453

Meaning, these projects

02:27:39Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002454

had already passed

02:27:41Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002455

NBC 595.

02:27:44Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002456

Can DBM confirm this?

02:27:49Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002457

And natanggap nyo ba

02:27:50Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002458

yung mga ibinalik na SARO?

02:27:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002459

Just to clarify, Madam Speaker,

02:28:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002460

September 2025?

02:28:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002461

September 2026?

02:28:05Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002462

Yes, because during the hearing

02:28:07Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002463

with DPWH,

02:28:08Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002464

ang sabi po ng DPWH,

02:28:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002465

binalik nila

02:28:11Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002466

yung mga SARO sa inyo.

02:28:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002467

And meron po silang report

02:28:15Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002468

ng negative SARO.

02:28:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002469

As for the DBM,

02:28:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002470

Madam Speaker,

02:28:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002471

no certifications have been

02:28:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002472

issued.

02:28:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002473

So are you telling me Madam Chair, Distinguished Colleague na nagsisinungaling po yung DPWH dun sa sinabi nilang report na meron po silang report ng mga SARO na binalik sa inyo na meron silang negative SARO na galing sa inyo?

02:28:56Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002474

May time please.

02:29:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002475

Madam Speaker, at least on the part of the DBM, it's not able to issue a negative SARO yet given that no purpose has been established at the time.

02:29:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002476

So given that the supposed certifications were made in September 2025 and then the circular was issued,

02:29:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002477

it was issued in April 2026.

02:30:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002478

So, there's a disconnect in terms of the periods, Madam Speaker.

02:30:09Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002479

Ano pong sabi niyo? Can you please repeat? You said September 2026?

02:30:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002480

September 2025.

02:30:17Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002481

That was the report of the DPWH.

02:30:19Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002482

They reported that in September of 2025, minalik na po nila ang mga saraw.

02:30:30Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002483

And this was an order made by the President.

02:30:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002484

Yes. Well, with indulgence of our good colleague, Honorable Nazal,

02:30:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002485

the DBM is going to submit the list of the certifications anyway.

02:30:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002486

So, maybe that way, it would verify whichever...

02:30:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002487

Anyway, are there saraw that were returned in 2025 by DPWH?

02:31:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002488

Kasi, I may be mistaken by the date, pero are there any saraw?

02:31:08Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002489

Yes.

02:31:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002490

For 2025, it's, according to the DBM, it's at least, as of August of 2026, this would be the figure,

02:31:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002491

20 billion, 59 million, 488 million, 612 thousand.

02:31:30Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002492

So, ang sinasabi po ninyo, walang binalik na saraw ng 2025 ang DPWH.

02:31:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002493

Wala pa daw po, Madam Speaker. As for the DBM?

02:31:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002494

As for the DBM?

02:32:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002495

So, there is a disconnect between what you're saying and what was reported during the briefing of DPWH.

02:32:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002496

Yes. The DBM will supplement this information by submitting the proper documents, Madam Speaker.

02:32:24Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002497

But in 2026, meron pong mga saraw na binalik?

02:32:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002498

So, wala.

02:32:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002499

None.

02:32:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002500

None specifically for DPWH, as of, for the 2026 projects.

02:32:52Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002501

For other departments?

02:32:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002502

For other departments.

02:32:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002503

For the other departments, Madam Speaker, yes.

02:33:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002504

There have been, there should have been a return.

02:33:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002505

Okay.

02:33:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002506

So, these are various agencies.

02:33:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002507

So, I'll just start alphabetically.

02:33:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002508

The Department of Agriculture, 742 billion.

02:33:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002509

Okay lang.

02:33:23Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002510

How about the continuing for 2025?

02:33:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002511

Million. I'm so sorry. Million.

02:33:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002512

Yung continuing po.

02:33:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002513

For 2025.

02:33:32Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002514

And DPWH.

02:33:43Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002515

My time, please.

02:33:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002516

Madam Speaker, for the continuing for 2025, this 2025.

02:33:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002517

Yes.

02:33:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002518

It's 20 billion,

02:33:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002522

59,488,612.

02:34:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002523

Which was offered in 2026.

02:34:06Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002524

Suspended?

02:34:09Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002525

What was the basis?

02:34:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002526

It...

02:34:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002527

final discontinuance.

02:34:24Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002529

...

02:34:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002530

Madam Speaker, the basis for, it goes to savings,

02:34:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002531

it's 20,059,488,612.

02:34:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002532

It's a mix of all.

02:34:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002533

It's a combination of all of the different grounds,

02:34:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002534

so completion, final discontinuance, abandonment.

02:34:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002535

Discontinuance.

02:34:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002536

Improved systems and efficiency.

02:34:58Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002537

May we have per project?

02:35:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002538

Yeah, for all projects, Madam Speaker.

02:35:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002539

Yes, the DBM will comply.

02:35:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002540

So, what was the basis for declaring it a savings?

02:35:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002541

It's the agency certification.

02:35:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002542

So, the agency head has a certification.

02:35:20Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002543

An agency certification indicating that all these projects were discontinued or abandoned?

02:35:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002544

Yes, they should have if they were discontinued or they got reverted to savings.

02:35:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002545

And you have that document?

02:35:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002546

It's a voluminous set of documents.

02:35:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002547

So, it's a project by project.

02:35:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002548

It's a line by line of all projects.

02:35:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002549

But the DBM has it on file and will send either a hard copy or a soft copy.

02:35:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002550

Did you verify?

02:35:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002551

Did you verify?

02:35:56Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002552

Did you verify that the projects were?

02:35:57Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002553

Actually, qualified under the NBC 603 and the rules for savings?

02:36:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002554

It would be the certification of the head of the agency,

02:36:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002555

which would assure that it would fall in any of these categories, Madam Speaker.

02:36:27Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002556

Okay.

02:36:27Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002557

Kung i-certify po nila, hindi nyo na kailangan i-validate?

02:36:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002558

Well, yes.

02:36:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002559

As for the DBM, it would fall.

02:36:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002560

The responsibility of the certification would fall with the agency head.

02:36:44Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002561

Pero shouldn't we at least validate?

02:36:50Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002562

Kasi, paano natin malalaman kung talagang nag-fall under the provision for savings?

02:36:57Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002563

And how do we now make sure na hindi ito manufactured savings?

02:37:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002564

Madam Speaker, at least on the part of the DBM, the current status quo is that the DBM just verifies with the status of obligation in the financial reports for the particular projects.

02:37:27Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002565

Let me give you an example.

02:37:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002566

Meron po tayo mga sinuspend na project.

02:37:33Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002567

Katulad ng multi-purpose building, halimbawa.

02:37:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002568

Yun ang nakalagay dun sa project description or line item.

02:37:40Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002569

Tapos, kasama siya dun sa sinuspend natin and then eventually ginawa nating saving.

02:37:46Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002570

Ano ang dahilan para isama natin yung para maging discontinued or

02:37:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002571

um,

02:37:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002572

para ma-discontinue yung katulad nung project na yun habang na-bid out yun.

02:38:02Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002573

Tapos,

02:38:05Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002574

short of award, na-bid out siya.

02:38:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002575

With that particular situation, Madam Speaker,

02:38:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002576

well, the DBM has not, again, has not invoked the suspension.

02:38:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002577

Under Section 38.

02:38:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002578

But, at least with that, probably what happened was that

02:38:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002579

the head of the agency gave the certification that it's,

02:38:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002580

it falls within these conditions.

02:38:39Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002581

But, but, but isn't it also the obligation of DBM to make sure that

02:38:45Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002582

ito pong rules natin for declaring savings is being followed?

02:38:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002583

If hindi po natin i-validate, then we can just manufacture savings.

02:39:01Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002584

And it will be very convenient para sa inyo, nagagamitin niyo yung pondo.

02:39:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002585

Kaya hindi na lang natin iti-check.

02:39:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002586

For the information of the Honorable Nazal, Madam Speaker,

02:39:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002587

the basis for that, for relying on the certification of the heads of agencies,

02:39:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002588

particularly with the discontinuance and all of that,

02:39:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002589

is that they have that mandate under EO 219 as of now.

02:39:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002590

So, that's the reason why we're relying on the certifications by the heads of agencies.

02:39:50Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002591

But, but I thought, as you mentioned,

02:39:52Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002592

earlier, hindi pa natin ini-invoke yung Section 38.

02:39:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002593

Yeah, no. This is Section 51, Chapter 9, Subtitle B, Title 1.

02:40:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002594

So, it's a different section.

02:40:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002595

This is particularly for the certification of,

02:40:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002596

by the heads of agencies regarding the final discontinuance continuation

02:40:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002597

that would revert it back to savings.

02:40:17Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002598

So, you're saying, Madam Chair, Madam Sponsor,

02:40:21Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002599

that DPWA,

02:40:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002600

with the head of the agency,

02:40:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002601

can just identify projects,

02:40:32Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002602

sabihin na ito ay discontinued,

02:40:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002603

at hindi na natin malalaman kung totoo ito.

02:40:38Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002604

And we have no way of knowing.

02:40:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002605

Tapos, ililipat nyo yung pondo sa ibang proyekto,

02:40:47Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002606

tapos i-augment natin kasi na-declare na natin na saving.

02:40:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002607

Aren't we already,

02:40:52Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002608

bastardizing the GAA?

02:40:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002609

Well, based on, well, existing, well,

02:41:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002610

existing guidelines,

02:41:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002611

and also as prescribed by EO 292, Section 51,

02:41:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002612

it would be the head of agency.

02:41:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002613

Maybe partly the rationale for that is because

02:41:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002614

they would know whether or not,

02:41:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002615

they had the technical expertise,

02:41:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002616

and they have all of the technical knowledge.

02:41:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002617

But they should,

02:41:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002618

they should talk to the director, right?

02:41:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002619

But we should have a system of checks and balances.

02:41:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002620

Because if we will say that it is not our obligation to double check,

02:41:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002621

then any agency can do this arbitrarily.

02:41:43Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002622

Then whatever is passed in the GAA na pinasapu natin ng Kongreso,

02:41:48Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002623

pwedeng palit-palitan na lang.

02:41:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002624

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:41:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002625

We recognize the, and we also, we're one with the concerns of the Honorable Nazal.

02:41:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002626

Particularly with EO 292,

02:42:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002627

well, the DBM submits to the wisdom of Congress.

02:42:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002628

So we can amend this actually so that we put safeguards in place.

02:42:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002629

What safeguards can DBM introduce para po masigurado na hindi po mangyayari?

02:42:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002631

Well, at least on the part of the DBM,

02:42:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002632

the DBM assures this,

02:42:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002633

this chamber that it has been stringently abiding by all of the laws,

02:42:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002634

all of those prescribed by Supreme Court decisions and all existing laws.

02:43:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002635

But particularly with this, the treatment of savings,

02:43:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002636

the treatment of certifications for particular projects,

02:43:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002637

the DBM submits to further amendments to the law.

02:43:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002638

As is relevant.

02:43:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002639

Can you please submit a list kung ano po yung mga project na sinertify,

02:43:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002640

tapos diniklare natin as savings, saan po napunta?

02:43:33Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002641

Saan, ano po yung mga augmentation na pinuntahan

02:43:37Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002642

ng mga pondo na diniklare natin as savings?

02:43:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002643

Yes, we will submit, Madam Speaker.

02:43:44Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002644

When?

02:43:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002645

The DBM commits Thursday, Madam Speaker.

02:44:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002646

Kasi Wednesday na daw po.

02:44:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002647

Thursday?

02:44:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002648

Thursday.

02:44:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002649

So tomorrow, Madam Speaker.

02:44:08Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002650

Thank you for that.

02:44:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002651

Sek ha, we will expect that.

02:44:14Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002652

And may I go to my next question, Madam Chair?

02:44:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002653

After we have everything we have just discussed

02:44:21Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002654

about return sa ROS savings and augmentation,

02:44:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002655

ang tanong ko po, bakit wala po sa 2027 NEP

02:44:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002656

ang chapter on overall savings?

02:44:33Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002657

Dati po, hanggang 2023,

02:44:36Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002658

for many years, the NEP showed overall savings,

02:44:39Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002659

how much savings were generated and where they went.

02:44:43Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002660

It reappeared in 2022 and 2023,

02:44:46Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002661

and then disappeared again.

02:44:47Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002662

Why?

02:44:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002663

As per the DBM, Madam Speaker,

02:44:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002664

that's not allowed, the pooling of overall savings.

02:44:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002665

Existing laws...

02:45:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002666

But we should have all the data available to us.

02:45:05Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002667

Hindi po pwedeng dapat, meron, dati nire-reflect natin sa report, tapos kung kailan lang natin gusto i-reflect, doon lang natin i-re-reflect.

02:45:24Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002668

So ang sinasabi ko po, dapat consistent po tayo.

02:45:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002669

So this is information that is vital to us making a decision for Congress to be able to pass the GAA.

02:45:38Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002670

So ano yung mga savings, yung overall savings ng lahat ng departments?

02:45:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002671

Dati nire-reflect po natin yung to and from.

02:45:47Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002672

We need that.

02:45:50Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002673

Pwede po bang ibalik?

02:45:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002674

Madam Speaker, particularly with overall savings, the establishment of overall savings, apparently that is under the Bayanihan Law, which allowed the pooling of overall savings.

02:46:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002675

But in general, that's not allowed.

02:46:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002676

Ang sinasabi, ang hinihingi lang naman po natin, yung dating nire-report natin.

02:46:21Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002677

The Chair would like to remind Representative Nazal that his time has already expired.

02:46:24Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002678

Yes, Madam Chair.

02:46:25Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002679

Ang hinihingi lang, kailangan lang po natin i-clarify.

02:46:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002680

Kasi hindi pa nila nasasagot yung tanong.

02:46:30Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002681

So, ang hinihingi lang po natin is yung report.

02:46:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002682

Dati naman nire-report.

02:46:36Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002683

Pwede po ba natin ibalik?

02:46:38Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002684

Kasi because this is vital to us making a decision.

02:46:43Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002685

Bakit natin tinatago ngayon?

02:46:46Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002686

Pwede naman yan i-reflect sa NEP?

02:46:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002687

The DBM, Madam Speaker, will submit.

02:46:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002688

It's committed to submission.

02:46:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002689

It's committed to submit this report.

02:47:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002690

However, it's not part of the NEP.

02:47:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002691

Kaya nga po, baka pwedeng isama na sa NEP every year sa submission ng NEP.

02:47:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002692

Dati namang meron, binabalik lang natin.

02:47:31Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002694

Up to 2023, meron namang po tayo niyan.

02:47:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002695

Okay.

02:47:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002696

The DBM will study, but as of now, the stand is that the DBM can't create a...

02:47:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002697

chapter on overall savings.

02:47:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002698

So, we do not have that information?

02:48:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002699

The DBM will study.

02:48:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002700

Will assess.

02:48:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002701

But there is a report.

02:48:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002702

And the DBM will publish a copy to the Honorable Nazal.

02:48:19Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002703

That is a very simple report which was included up to 2023.

02:48:23Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002704

Yan yung chapter on overall savings.

02:48:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002705

So, yun lang po ang hinihingi natin na i-restore natin yun.

02:48:31Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002706

Ibalik natin.

02:48:32Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002707

Will the DBM submit to that?

02:48:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002708

This is vital information that should be shared with Congress every time.

02:48:47Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002709

Hindi ko maintindihan bakit kailangan natin pag-isipan pa.

02:48:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002710

Okay.

02:48:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002711

The DBM will study, yes.

02:49:04Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002712

Will study or comply?

02:49:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002713

No, ah, well...

02:49:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002714

Napakahira po bang i-share yung information?

02:49:56Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002715

Kung ano yung savings?

02:49:58Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002717

ng bawat ahensya at saan in-augment yung pondo na ito?

02:50:05Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002718

Is it that difficult?

02:50:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002719

Just to summarize and to clarify, Madam Speaker.

02:50:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002720

The reason why there was a chapter on overall savings in the 2023 NEP is because it was prescribed under Bayanihan Law.

02:50:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002721

So, that's the only reason why it was there as a chapter.

02:50:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002722

Okay.

02:50:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002723

But...

02:50:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002724

That's because it's prescribed by the Bayanihan Law.

02:50:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002725

So, that could be...

02:50:33Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002726

Even before Bayanihan, Madam Sponsor, meron pong reports on overall savings.

02:50:40Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002727

Yung to and from.

02:50:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002728

Kung saan, saan, saan nang galing, saan pumunta.

02:50:47Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002729

Meron tayong report niyan.

02:50:48Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002730

Hindi lang after, hindi lang during Bayanihan.

02:50:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002731

Bayanihan was 2021, ha?

02:50:53Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002732

The Chair would like to respectfully remind Representative Nazal that his...

02:50:57Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002733

his time has already expired to interpolate.

02:51:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002734

So, can I just ask for a report on the savings?

02:51:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002735

Yes.

02:51:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002736

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:51:09Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002737

Thank you, Madam Chair.

02:51:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002738

Thank you, Madam Sponsor.

02:51:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-002739

Thank you, Majority Leader.

02:51:15Source

Floor Leader

asr-002740

Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative JC M. Abalos for his interpellation.

02:51:25Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002741

Representative JC Abalos from 4Ps Party-list

02:51:27Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002742

is now recognized for his interpellation.

02:51:32Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002743

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

02:51:36Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002744

sa ahensya ng DBM at sa kanyang mga attached agency sa pangunguna ni Secretary Kim De Leon,

02:51:43Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002745

magandang umaga po.

02:51:45Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002746

Dahil inabot na po tayo ng madaling araw,

02:51:47Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002747

dadiretso na po ako, Madam Speaker, sa aking mga katanungan

02:51:50Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002748

at nakatoon po ito sa budget ng 4P's program for year 2027.

02:51:57Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002749

So, for the record po, Madam Speaker,

02:52:00Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002750

pwede po ba namin malaman kung ano ang proposed budget allocation para sa 4P's for year 2027?

02:52:07Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002751

At pwede po bang i-confirm ng ating sponsor na nabawasan po ang pondong ito

02:52:13Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002752

from around 113 billion last year to 99 billion?

02:52:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002753

Madam Speaker, for 2027, under the 2027 NEP,

02:52:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002754

the allocation would be 99 billion.

02:52:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002755

The decrease as per the DBM would be attributed to a decrease in the number of beneficiaries.

02:52:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002756

Because fortunately,

02:52:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002757

At least some of them have graduated from the four-piece program.

02:53:01Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002758

So, to confirm po, Madam Speaker, ayon po ba sa ating distinguished sponsor pati sa DBM,

02:53:06Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002759

ang primary driver sa budget decrease ay ang changes in the number of beneficiary households.

02:53:15Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002760

Can we get a confirmation?

02:53:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002761

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:53:18Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002762

And is it true po, Madam Speaker, that for many years, government maintained a target of approximately 4.4 million households

02:53:26Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002763

and now we understand that the number of households is being brought down to 3.5 million.

02:53:35Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002764

So, gusto ko po malaman, Madam Speaker, kung ano yung empirical basis para sa 3.5 million figure.

02:53:40Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002765

Is it based on PSA poverty statistics, CBMS data, proxy means test, projected graduation of existing beneficiaries?

02:53:50Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002766

Ano po ba ang empirical basis at ang primary driver kung bakit po natin pinababa to 3.5 million?

02:53:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002767

I guess, Madam Speaker, that is correct.

02:54:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002768

So, from 4.4 million households, now it's at 3.5 million.

02:54:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002769

The 3.5 million level is from the most updated version of the listahanan, from the DSWD, Madam Speaker.

02:54:19Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002770

Madam Speaker, kanina nung pinapag-usapan po natin ang budget ng DepDev, binanggit ko po ang CBMS.

02:54:26Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002772

So, was the DBM informed na hindi na po natin ginagamit ng listahanan mula nung nagkaroon na po tayo ng CBMS?

02:54:36Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002773

So, sinasabi po ba ng ating distinguished sponsor na ang batayan ng 3.5 million households ay nakabatay pa rin sa listahanan na isinagawa nung nakalipas ng ilang taon na po?

02:54:47Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002774

Lumang datos na po yun. CBMS na po tayo ngayon, Madam Speaker.

02:54:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002775

As for the DBM, Madam Speaker,

02:54:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002776

we're still using listahanan, but now there's a feedback mechanism with the CBMS.

02:55:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002777

Once it's fully rolled out, well, it's already fully rolled out, but now we're matching between the listahanan and the...

02:55:15Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002778

Okay. So, Madam Speaker, para lang po malinaw, habang nandito pa po ang mga kasamahan natin mula sa DepDev,

02:55:21Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002779

pwede rin silang kausapin ng DBM kung gusto nila.

02:55:24Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002780

Sa aking pagkakaintindi, meron po tayong...

02:55:26Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002781

around 3 million active households under the 4-piece program.

02:55:30Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002782

Meron ba tayong breakdown sa 3 million na ito kung ilan dyan ang galing sa listahanan at ilan dyan ang nanggaling sa CBMS?

02:55:38Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002783

And could the DBM also confirm, ayon po sa DSWD mismo, may higit 100,000 households tayo subject to validation

02:55:46Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002784

dahil may mga pamilya na hindi mahanap sa CBMS na nasa listahanan dati.

02:55:52Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002785

So, pwede po ba tayong magkaroon ng kalinawan mula sa DBM?

02:55:55Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002786

Kung paano tayo nag-come up with a new number of household beneficiary targets while at the same time considering na hindi na po listahanan ang ginagamit ngayon, CBMS na po.

02:56:09Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002787

At as a matter of fact, nabanggit ko rin po kanina, 5 bilyong piso ang inilaan natin noong 2024 for the CBMS.

02:56:17Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002788

Sinabi rin po mismo ng DepDev kanina na kompleto na ang kanilang pag-turnover as of this year.

02:56:24Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002789

At hanggang ngayon, hindi pa rin po yun ang ginagamit.

02:56:25Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002790

And next year, bibigyan na naman natin ng panibagong 5 bilyon.

02:56:30Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002791

So, ano po talaga? Ano yung breakdown ng active household beneficiaries?

02:56:34Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002792

Ilan yung galing sa listahanan? Ilan yung galing sa CBMS?

02:56:38Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002793

And Madam Speaker, gusto ko po ulit malaman, ano yung empirical basis?

02:56:43Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002794

Poverty statistics ba? Proxy means test ba? Pwede ko po ba malaman, Madam Speaker?

02:56:55Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002795

And habang inaabangan ko po ang sagot ng ating distinguished sponsor,

02:57:07Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002796

gusto ko pong malaman kung sino ang nag-determine ng 3.5 million target.

02:57:13Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002797

Rinekomenda po ba ito ng DSWD, ng DepDev, o ng DBM?

02:57:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002798

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

02:57:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002800

There's an ongoing reconciliation between the listahanan and the CBMS.

02:57:33Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002801

How long has the reconciliation been going on for?

02:57:36Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002802

Considering that the CBMS Act was enacted in 2019,

02:57:41Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002803

and we conducted a population census in 2024,

02:57:44Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002804

and we're about to allot another 5 billion peso budget for the CBMS for next year.

02:57:50Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002805

Okay.

02:57:51Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002806

Sa totoo lang po, Madam Speaker, ang dami pong pamilya na naka-waitlist sa 4Ps.

02:58:03Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002807

At sinasabi ko po na napakahalaga po nito dahil ayon po sa pagsusuri ng PIDS,

02:58:09Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002808

hindi pa po factored in ang Middle East oil crisis kung titignan natin ang ating poverty incidence rate ngayon.

02:58:17Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002809

Sabi po nila 9.8%, pero naputunayan natin kanina,

02:58:21Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002810

na yung data collection natin hindi naman siya isinagawa in a consistent basis.

02:58:30Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002811

In transit siya isinagawa.

02:58:32Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002812

At dahil po dyan, may mga pag-aaral na maaaring magkaroon ng karagdagang 1.34 billion households

02:58:38Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002813

na magiging poor or near poor dahil sa crisis.

02:58:41Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002814

So gusto ko po malaman, gano'n nakatagal yung reconciliation?

02:58:44Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002815

Considering na we already allotted 5 billion for the CBMS in 2024,

02:58:50Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002816

and we're about to allot another 5 billion next year.

02:58:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002819

Yes, Madam Speaker.

02:58:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002820

With regards to the 3.5 million level,

02:59:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002821

the DBM defers to the DSWD with regards to that number.

02:59:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002822

So with the technical details of how the 3.5 million level was arrived at,

02:59:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002823

that would be better answered by the DSWD.

02:59:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002824

However, at least the goal is that actually there won't be a Listahanan 4 anymore

02:59:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002825

kasi na-roll out na yung CBMS.

02:59:33Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002826

So the reconciliation is still ongoing, but given that...

02:59:38Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002827

For how many years, Madam Speaker, has the reconciliation been ongoing?

02:59:42Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002828

Kailan po natin kinonsider na outdated na ang listahanan?

02:59:50Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002830

At ilang pamilya pa ba ang vina-validate natin from listahanan to CBMS

02:59:57Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002831

noong nag-transition na tayo to CBMS?

03:00:00Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002833

How many households are still in limbo? Can we find out the number?

03:00:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002834

Unfortunately, Madam Speaker, the DBM doesn't have details with regards to how long this reconciliation has been taking place.

03:00:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002835

It's the SWD who would have details on it, Madam Speaker.

03:00:23Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002836

So, does the DBM mean to tell us, Madam Speaker, that when we allotted P99 billion for this program,

03:00:35Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002837

hindi pa po natin na-reconcile ang listahan ng mga prospective beneficiaries, considering na ang dami pang naka-waitlist?

03:00:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002838

As for the DBM, Madam Speaker, they really defer to the

03:00:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002839

DSWD with regards to the number of households, as for the level.

03:00:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002840

So, the 3.5 million really was determined by the DSWD, and DBM just considered that for the budget allocation of the four-piece program.

03:01:07Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002841

For purposes of allotting budget allocations, does the DBM defer to the DSWD or the CBMS data that was supposed to be furnished by the PSA?

03:01:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002842

As for the DBM, Madam Speaker, it's an implementing agency who would give the level.

03:01:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002843

So, particularly for the four-piece program, since it's the DSWD, it would be the DSW that gives.

03:01:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002844

So, regardless of the source of the data or what the basis is,

03:01:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002845

it really is the agency proposal.

03:01:56Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002846

For the information of the DBM as well as its attached agencies,

03:02:05Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002847

ayon po sa four-piece law, naka-based po sa National Standardized Targeting System.

03:02:10Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002848

It used to be listahanan, that's correct, at ngayon umaasa na po tayo sa CBMS.

03:02:16Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002849

At gusto ko lang po malaman, and the DBM can furnish this to us later on,

03:02:21Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002850

whether it be the DBM or the...

03:02:23Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002851

DepDev, gusto ko lang po malaman sana what happens today if a household was once identified as poor under listahanan 3,

03:02:34Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002852

so otherwise qualified for four-piece, waitlisted because there was no available slot,

03:02:41Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002853

but now cannot be located or matched in the CBMS.

03:02:46Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002854

Gusto ko lang po malaman from any of our agencies concerned kung meron bang mechanism allowing a family

03:02:53Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002855

to request inclusion, re-enumeration, or independent value validation,

03:02:59Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002856

especially if the NEP budget assumes a reduced caseload,

03:03:04Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002857

kasi based on the budget that we have now.

03:03:06Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002858

Kaya siya bumaba from 113 billion to 99 billion, at sinabi po ito ng ating sponsor,

03:03:11Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002859

meron po tayong reduced caseload.

03:03:14Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002860

At nabanggit rin po kanina na may mga pamilya pa po tayo ng four-piece subject to revalidation,

03:03:19Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002861

kasi nag-transition tayo from listahanan to CBMS.

03:03:23Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002862

So, dahil mag-umaga na, i-request ko na lang po sa ating DBM, pati sa ating sponsor,

03:03:29Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002863

na baka pwede po tayo i-furnish ng mechanism na kanilang ginagamit pagdating po sa programa ng four-piece.

03:03:37Source

Rep. JC M. Abalos

asr-002864

Yun lamang po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, maraming salamat at magandang gabi po.

03:03:43Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002865

Thank you.

03:03:43Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002866

Leader.

03:03:49Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-002867

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the honor,

03:03:53Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-002868

the Honorable Antonio Tineo for his interpellation.

03:03:56Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-002869

Representative Antonio Tineo of ACT Teachers Party, this is now recognized for his interpellation.

03:04:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002870

Thank you, Madam Chair.

03:04:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002871

Last na po yata.

03:04:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002872

So, anyway, again, meron tayong, balik tayo dun sa presentation.

03:04:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002873

Tutal, andito na si Secretary Kim.

03:04:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002874

Importante po ito.

03:04:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002875

Na marinig niya.

03:04:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002876

Okay.

03:04:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002877

Presentation.

03:04:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002878

Ako.

03:04:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002879

Paki-pause po muna.

03:04:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002880

Wala pa eh.

03:05:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002885

Thank you.

03:05:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002886

Alright, so here we go again.

03:05:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002887

Again,

03:05:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002888

I showed this earlier.

03:05:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002889

Ito po yung 10-year

03:05:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002890

history ng

03:05:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002891

MPBF.

03:05:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002892

As I

03:05:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002893

pointed out earlier,

03:06:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002894

especially under the

03:06:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002895

Marcos administration, this administration

03:06:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002896

naging paboritong target po

03:06:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002897

ito ng

03:06:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002898

reduction.

03:06:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002899

Tapos,

03:06:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002900

ginagamit daw na source.

03:06:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002901

Source of funding

03:06:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002902

for congressional

03:06:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002903

insertion.

03:06:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002904

Very clearly,

03:06:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002905

especially in the years

03:06:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002906

2023,

03:06:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002907

24,

03:06:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002908

25,

03:06:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002909

26.

03:06:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002910

Ngayon,

03:06:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002911

so,

03:06:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002912

my purpose here is to

03:06:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002913

point this out and call it out.

03:06:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002914

Dapat itigil na yung ganyang modus.

03:06:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002915

In the same way na dapat hindi na rin gawin yan

03:06:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002916

sa DOTR Foreign Assisted Project

03:06:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002917

and other foreign assisted projects.

03:06:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002918

But, now my question to the DBM is, yun nga, with regard to the MPBF, proposed MPBF for 2027,

03:07:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002919

amounting to 55 billion, no?

03:07:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002920

I raised it during the budget briefing pero,

03:07:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002921

hindi po ba, please confirm, na kasama po sa proposal nyo, yung plano na finally, after,

03:07:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002922

after,

03:07:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002923

17 years,

03:07:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002924

since 2009,

03:07:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002925

ay,

03:07:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002926

magkakaroon na ng increase sa

03:07:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002927

personnel economic relief allowance.

03:07:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002928

Yung 2,000 a month na

03:07:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002929

allowance,

03:07:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002930

like a cost of living allowance for all government personnel.

03:07:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002931

Hindi ba, about time,

03:07:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002932

dapat na pong taasan ito.

03:07:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002933

Considering,

03:07:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002934

may economic crisis

03:07:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002935

at kailangang matulungan

03:08:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002936

ang ating mga

03:08:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002937

government employees,

03:08:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002938

malaking bahagi sila nung mga low,

03:08:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002939

lower,

03:08:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002940

lower income earners,

03:08:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002941

kumbaga,

03:08:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002942

sa bansa. So,

03:08:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002943

kasama po ba sa proposal,

03:08:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002944

o ito po ba ang pagkukuna nung posibleng pagtaas

03:08:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002945

ng personnel economic relief allowance?

03:08:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002946

No final amount as of now, as per the increase, Madam Speaker.

03:08:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002947

No, pakiulit po.

03:08:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002948

There is no final amount as of now.

03:08:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002949

No final amount. Pero,

03:08:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002950

kumbaga, meron ng,

03:08:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002951

kumbaga, nasa plano na,

03:08:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002952

na magkaroon ng increase.

03:08:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002953

Yes, a portion of it, Madam Speaker.

03:08:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002954

So, definitely,

03:08:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002955

increase in pera by 2027.

03:09:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002956

Yun ang plano dito sa proposal, correct?

03:09:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002957

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:09:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002958

Yes. O yan, categorical, clear.

03:09:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002959

Finally,

03:09:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002960

after

03:09:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002961

17 years,

03:09:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002962

this administration will

03:09:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002963

increase the pera

03:09:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002964

sa lahat ng mga government employees na nakikinig.

03:09:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002965

Napakagandang balita po niyan.

03:09:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002966

Ngayon, malinaw din po sinabi,

03:09:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002967

no final amount yet. Okay.

03:09:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002968

The source is the 55 billion

03:09:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002969

MPBF.

03:09:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002970

Correct?

03:09:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002971

Yes, Madam Speaker. And,

03:09:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002972

roughly,

03:09:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002973

for every 1,000 peso increase in pera,

03:09:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002974

magkano po ang kailangan?

03:09:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002975

24 billion.

03:09:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002976

24 billion.

03:09:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002977

And, para sa ordinaryong,

03:09:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002978

para sa lahat ng mga empleyado ng gobyerno,

03:09:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002979

ibig sabihin na,

03:09:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002980

pag tinaasa natin ng 1,000 pesos ang pera,

03:09:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002981

that's 1,000 pesos per month.

03:10:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002982

So, in a year, that would mean an additional,

03:10:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002983

ah,

03:10:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002984

additional take-home pay of 12,000 in a year.

03:10:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002985

At tama po ba?

03:10:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002986

Ayon sa batas at mga patakaran,

03:10:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002987

hindi tinataks yun.

03:10:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002988

Correct?

03:10:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002989

Yes.

03:10:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002990

Pera is not taxable.

03:10:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-002991

Pera is not taxed.

03:10:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002992

So, makukuha ng buo yun.

03:10:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002993

So, kunyari,

03:10:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002994

tinaas ng 1,000,

03:10:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002995

that's additional 12,000

03:10:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002996

ah,

03:10:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002997

in a year. No?

03:10:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002998

So, 24,000 for that.

03:10:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002999

That's 2 million

03:10:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003000

ah, government employees,

03:10:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003001

1,000 a month times 12,

03:10:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003002

kaya naging 24,000 po, ah, 24 billion.

03:10:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003003

Okay.

03:10:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003004

So, we have 55 billion in the MPDF.

03:10:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003005

So, theoretically,

03:10:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003006

ah, up to at least 2,000 pesos a month

03:11:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003007

may be accommodated.

03:11:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003008

24 times 2, 48 billion.

03:11:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003009

Tama po ba?

03:11:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003010

Correct?

03:11:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003011

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:11:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003012

Correct.

03:11:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003013

Oo.

03:11:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003014

Pero marami pa daw pong kinukuha sa MPDF.

03:11:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003015

Marami pang kinukuha.

03:11:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003016

As for the DBM.

03:11:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003017

Sige, for example,

03:11:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003018

please, kasi nga lump sum po yan eh.

03:11:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003019

Ano po yung iba pang mga pwedeng kunin?

03:11:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003020

As for the DBM, ah,

03:11:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003021

ito pa po yung mga kinukuha from the MPDF.

03:11:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003022

So,

03:11:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003023

overtime pay,

03:11:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003024

ah,

03:11:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003025

PBB,

03:11:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003026

ah,

03:11:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003027

creation of new positions,

03:11:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003028

ah,

03:11:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003029

all of this.

03:11:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003030

Okay, may, ah,

03:11:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003031

could we have the amount,

03:11:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003032

ah,

03:11:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003033

that are,

03:12:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003034

ah,

03:12:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003035

set aside

03:12:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003036

for those particular,

03:12:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003037

ah,

03:12:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003038

item?

03:12:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003053

Madam Speaker,

03:12:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003054

what we have on file

03:12:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003055

now are just indicative amounts?

03:12:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003056

Yes,

03:12:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003057

we understand indicative,

03:12:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003058

na subject to

03:12:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003059

adjustment.

03:12:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003064

So, please, please share the indicative amount.

03:12:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003065

Yung 55 billion na yan, merong mga yan, di ba?

03:12:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003066

Indicative spending level.

03:12:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003067

Yes, with the indulgence of Honorable Tino.

03:12:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003068

For funding requirement for the filling of vacancies,

03:12:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003069

indicative amount would be 12,623,712,000.

03:13:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003070

For FBI, so performance-based incentive, 21.82 billion.

03:13:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003071

Legal defense fund, 200 million.

03:13:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003072

For the payment of other personal benefits,

03:13:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003073

so overtime pay, 141.2 million.

03:13:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003074

Sorry, million.

03:13:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003075

Step increment due to meritorious performance, 24.88 million.

03:13:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003076

The increase in the personnel economic relief allowance, so pera,

03:13:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003077

11.

03:13:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003078

11.79 billion.

03:13:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003079

So, yun na yung amount for pera.

03:13:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003080

Indicative amount.

03:13:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003081

Is that for the existing pera or?

03:13:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003082

Indicative. Indicative amount.

03:13:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003083

That's for additional pera?

03:13:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003084

Yes.

03:13:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003085

In the pera.

03:13:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003086

Magkano po? 11?

03:13:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003087

11.7, 11 billion, 793,948,000.

03:14:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003088

93 billion.

03:14:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003089

Okay.

03:14:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003090

So, well, there you have it.

03:14:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003091

We have an amount.

03:14:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003092

Tama po.

03:14:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003093

Indicative amount.

03:14:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003094

11.7.

03:14:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003095

So, that would be certainly less than 500.

03:14:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003096

Tama po ba?

03:14:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003097

Roughly.

03:14:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003098

[unclear] level is at 500, yung 500 per month.

03:15:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003108

Okay. Again, these are indicative amounts.

03:15:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003109

So right now, 500 pesos per month dagdag sa pera, that would be 6,000 in a year. Tama po?

03:15:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003110

Yes.

03:15:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003111

Kung mananatili yung MPBF. And of course, as we said, panawagan na ito sa mga kasama natin sa Kongreso, huwag na pong gawalawin o huwag bawasan ang MPBF.

03:15:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003112

At kung sakali, dagdagan pa nga.

03:15:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003113

No? Para naman maipagmalaki ng administrasyon na sila ang unang magdadagdag ng pera at well, 500 ang idadagdag. Baka naman pwedeng dagdagan pa.

03:15:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003114

Okay. Anyway, so thank you for that information.

03:15:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003115

Now, of course, ang...

03:15:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003116

Ilinaw ko lang, ang long-standing demand namin, yung 2,000 gawing 5,000 a month yung pera.

03:16:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003117

Okay. And let me note also that in 2026, the administration increased the, let's say, the subsistence allowance of uniformed personnel from around 150 a day to 300 or so.

03:16:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003118

Parang gano'n, di ba? Magkano yung inabot nun? How much did that cost?

03:16:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003119

74 billion as per the DBM, Madam Speaker.

03:16:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003120

How much?

03:16:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003121

74 billion.

03:16:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003122

74 billion? Are you sure? Parang sobra yun, ha? For subsistence allowance?

03:16:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003123

For subsistence allowance.

03:16:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003124

For subsistence allowance.

03:16:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003125

Okay.

03:17:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003126

Okay.

03:17:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003127

Yeah. After the increase, it's 74 billion.

03:17:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003128

After the increase?

03:17:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003129

Yeah, it's the total.

03:17:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003130

The increase was something like...

03:17:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003131

Bigyan nyo yung mas magandang datos kasi parang halaki nun, ha?

03:17:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003132

O.

03:17:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003133

So, Madam Speaker, given the increase, kasi it was at 150 before, now it's at 350. So, it's a 200 peso increase.

03:17:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003134

So, roughly, out of the 74 billion, the increase is 40 billion. Out of that 74 billion.

03:17:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003135

40 billion pesos.

03:17:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003136

Okay. So, the administration appropriated 40 billion pesos to increase the subsistence allowance of uniformed personnel, no?

03:18:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003137

Ngayon yung pera, 11 billion ang nakalaan.

03:18:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003138

Okay. Malinaw po, ha? Malinaw.

03:18:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003139

Kaya, I'm arguing, we can do better. This administration can do better for...

03:18:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003140

For the nearly 2 million personnel, you know, yung mga regular employees of the national government, as well as the LG youth, no?

03:18:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003141

So, bitin po. Sasabihin ko na, medyo bitin yan. Tataas nyo rin lang, bitin yung 11 billion.

03:18:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003142

Kaya, yan po ang hamon sa ating kongreso. Dagdagan pa natin ito.

03:18:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003143

Kung sa mga nakaraang taon, binabawasan yung MPBF, kailangan po dagdagan ngayon.

03:19:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003144

Uniformed personnel, nabigyan ng 40 billion. 2026. Dagdag.

03:19:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003145

Paano naman yung mga, eto, yung mga kawanig na rito ngayon, kasama tayong lahat dito.

03:19:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003146

Diba? Tama mo ba? Diba gusto natin ang increase sa pera?

03:19:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003147

O, diyo. Narinig nyo, ha? Narinig nyo. Okay. Malinaw na malinaw.

03:19:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003148

Let it be on the record. Wala nang energy. Okay.

03:19:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003149

Okay. Launa na.

03:19:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003150

Alright. Move to the next topic.

03:19:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003151

Budget cuts. Okay.

03:19:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003152

So, ang isang natatangi sa budget na ito, binalik yung flood control.

03:19:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003153

After last year. No, last year, famously, because of the corruption scandal,

03:19:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003154

255 billion yung tinanggal sa DPWH. Tapos, nilipat sa iba't iba ngayon siya.

03:20:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003155

Ang pangunahing nakinabang doon, mga social services.

03:20:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003156

So, lumaki yung sa DepEd, sa DOH, DSWD, TUPAD, and so on.

03:20:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003157

Pero for 2027, balik na yung flood control.

03:20:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003158

So, total of 105 billion, all in all.

03:20:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003159

87 or so, nasa DPWH. Nabalik.

03:20:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003160

So, ano naging epekto?

03:20:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003161

Isang naging epekto, sa halip na madagdagan, usually, every year,

03:20:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003162

nadadagdagan yung budget ng DepEd, ng DOH, and so on.

03:20:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003163

Sa halip na madagdagan, nabawasan.

03:20:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003164

Okay.

03:20:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003165

At nabawasan, hindi lang yung mga pork barrel items,

03:20:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003166

such as,

03:20:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003167

the maipip,

03:20:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003168

the TUPAD,

03:20:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003169

and so on.

03:21:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003170

Kung hindi,

03:21:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003171

in this case,

03:21:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003172

what are we seeing here?

03:21:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003173

MOE.

03:21:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003174

Pati yung MOE ng DepEd.

03:21:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003175

In this case, it's the MOE of public schools.

03:21:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003176

This is not, hindi cut.

03:21:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003177

However,

03:21:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003178

notable here,

03:21:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003179

is that the increase

03:21:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003180

in MOE for public schools,

03:21:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003181

proposed for 2027,

03:21:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003182

is at

03:21:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003183

0.11%

03:21:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003184

for kinder to grade 6 schools.

03:21:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003185

Increase, ha?

03:21:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003186

In-increase nyo yung MOE by 0.11%.

03:21:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003187

Yung sa grade 7 to 10, 0.38%.

03:21:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003188

And grade 11 to 12, 0.33.

03:21:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003189

Less than 1%.

03:21:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003190

0.33%.

03:21:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003191

Lahat yan.

03:21:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003192

My point being,

03:21:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003193

way below

03:21:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003194

the inflation rate.

03:21:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003195

Asan ba?

03:22:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003196

Nasa 6.2 ba ngayon?

03:22:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003197

So, in effect, binawasan nyo.

03:22:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003198

No?

03:22:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003199

In effect, mas maliit

03:22:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003200

ang MOE ngayon

03:22:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003201

ng mga public schools natin.

03:22:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003202

Diba?

03:22:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003203

Okay.

03:22:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003204

Ano pa yung nandyan?

03:22:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003205

Next slide.

03:22:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003206

Okay.

03:22:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003207

And also,

03:22:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003208

it came out in the budget briefings

03:22:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003209

na,

03:22:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003210

one,

03:22:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003211

this proposed budget

03:22:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003212

has no,

03:22:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003213

no proposal

03:22:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003214

for creation of new items,

03:22:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003215

new teacher one items

03:22:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003216

for 2027.

03:22:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003217

Zero.

03:22:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003218

Kahit merong 14,000 plus

03:22:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003219

na shortage tayo.

03:22:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003220

Okay?

03:22:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003221

Sinasabi, unfilled positions.

03:22:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003222

Pero even with the unfilled positions,

03:22:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003223

kulang pa rin po.

03:22:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003224

So, zero.

03:22:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003225

Tapos,

03:22:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003226

according to the

03:22:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003227

DepEd Secretary,

03:22:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003228

Secretary Angara,

03:22:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003229

yung aral program,

03:22:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003230

2026 nilagyan ng budget,

03:22:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003231

ngayon walang budget.

03:22:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003232

Okay?

03:22:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003233

This is the learning recovery program.

03:23:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003234

So, yan yung ninunood po natin.

03:23:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003235

Next slide.

03:23:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003236

These are the other,

03:23:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003237

across the board,

03:23:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003238

yung DepEd,

03:23:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003239

lumiit at nabawasan

03:23:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003240

yung mga major programs nila

03:23:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003241

from the basic education facilities,

03:23:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003242

pinakamalaki,

03:23:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003243

that's the classroom construction budget.

03:23:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003244

It was cut by 55%.

03:23:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003245

Yung school feeding program,

03:23:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003246

nabawasan.

03:23:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003247

Yung textbooks and instructional materials,

03:23:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003248

yung computerization program for laptop,

03:23:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003249

baba.

03:23:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003250

Kaya nakared lahat.

03:23:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003251

Okay?

03:23:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003252

Next slide.

03:23:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003253

Next slide.

03:23:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003254

State universities and colleges,

03:23:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003255

cuts din po.

03:23:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003256

These are the top 10 cuts.

03:23:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003257

Pinakamalaki,

03:23:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003258

Mariano Marcos State University,

03:23:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003259

28.8%.

03:23:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003260

Lower.

03:23:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003261

Or cut.

03:23:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003262

Decrease.

03:23:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003263

Compared to last year.

03:23:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003264

And so on.

03:23:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003265

Di ko na isa-isahin.

03:23:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003266

Next slide.

03:24:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003267

Health.

03:24:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003268

So, yung mga GOCC hospitals,

03:24:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003269

you see there,

03:24:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003270

cuts in their PS and MOE.

03:24:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003271

This one being shown here,

03:24:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003272

well, overall budget cuts.

03:24:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003273

Next slide.

03:24:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003274

PS budget cuts

03:24:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003275

for DOH retained hospitals.

03:24:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003276

Kulang na kulang,

03:24:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003277

ng personel,

03:24:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003278

ng mga DOH hospitals,

03:24:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003279

you know,

03:24:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003280

the nurse,

03:24:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003281

the atrocious,

03:24:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003282

nurse to patient ratio,

03:24:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003283

doctor to patient ratio,

03:24:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003284

pero binawasan nyo yung PS.

03:24:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003285

Okay?

03:24:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003286

By significant amount.

03:24:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003287

For example,

03:24:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003288

Rizal Medical Center,

03:24:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003289

less cut by 112 million pesos

03:24:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003290

ang PS nila.

03:24:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003291

Next slide.

03:24:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003292

Yung MOE, kinat nyo rin.

03:24:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003293

For example,

03:25:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003294

National Center for Medical Health,

03:25:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003295

311 million pesos,

03:25:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003296

binawasan ng MOE

03:25:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003297

ng mga ito.

03:25:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003298

Yung Quirino Memorial Medical Center,

03:25:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003299

Quezon City to, diba?

03:25:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003300

511 million pesos,

03:25:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003301

less ang MOE.

03:25:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003302

Okay, next slide.

03:25:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003303

And more.

03:25:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003304

Di ko na po isa-isahin.

03:25:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003305

Yan pa po yung mga cut.

03:25:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003306

Okay.

03:25:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003307

So, my point being,

03:25:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003308

bakit po binalik ang flood control

03:25:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003309

samantala

03:25:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003310

ang laki ng mga binawas

03:25:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003311

o hindi man lang dinagdagan

03:25:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003312

yung para sa basic services.

03:25:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003313

At as I said,

03:25:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003314

hindi ito yung mga discretionary

03:25:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003315

pork barrel items

03:25:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003316

ng social services,

03:25:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003317

but these are the MOE and PS.

03:25:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003318

So, kaya po,

03:25:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003319

ang point natin dito,

03:25:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003320

Madam Chair,

03:25:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003321

hindi pwede yan.

03:25:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003322

Dapat ibalik at dagdagan pa nga.

03:26:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003323

Yun yung point ko dito.

03:26:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003324

Kung kinakailangan,

03:26:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003325

tanggalin,

03:26:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003326

bawasan na yung flood control.

03:26:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003327

Ito, dapat balik at dagdagan.

03:26:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003328

Ano po masasabi ng sponsor?

03:26:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003329

First, anong justification?

03:26:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003330

Bakit yung binawasan?

03:26:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003331

PS, MOE,

03:26:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003332

ng mga public school,

03:26:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003333

tsaka ng mga public hospital.

03:26:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003334

Tapos,

03:26:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003335

oh,

03:26:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003336

hindi ba dapat dagdagan?

03:26:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003337

Yes.

03:26:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003338

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:26:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003339

We will verify the data

03:26:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003340

at least on the part of the DBM

03:26:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003341

because particularly for personal services,

03:26:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003342

given that interface po yan,

03:26:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003343

dapat daw hindi yan nag-decrease.

03:26:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003344

Dapat walang decreases in PSs,

03:26:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003345

particularly since may

03:26:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003346

new tranche ng SSL.

03:26:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003347

So, with the PS,

03:26:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003348

we just have to confirm also

03:26:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003349

with the records of the DBM.

03:27:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003350

Well, Madam Chair,

03:27:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003351

Madam Speaker,

03:27:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003352

sana po makonfirm na ngayon.

03:27:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003353

Please check.

03:27:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003354

Okay?

03:27:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003355

Anyway, sige po.

03:27:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003356

Yes.

03:27:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003357

Parang sinasabi nyo,

03:27:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003358

dapat pag PS,

03:27:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003359

hindi nabawasan.

03:27:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003360

Pero, well,

03:27:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003361

I guarantee you,

03:27:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003362

yan yung nasa budget book.

03:27:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003363

Anyway, sige po.

03:27:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003364

Yes.

03:27:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003365

So, we'll confirm po right now.

03:27:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003366

Pero, well,

03:27:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003367

while waiting.

03:27:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003368

With regards to the MOE,

03:27:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003369

dapat po wala rin nabawasan dyan.

03:27:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003370

Kasi nga,

03:27:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003371

yun nga po yung consideration na

03:27:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003372

taas inflation,

03:27:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003373

yung mismong fuel

03:27:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003374

and all of the operating expenses,

03:27:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003375

talagang tataas po yun lahat.

03:27:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003376

Kuryente.

03:27:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003377

So, we'll also confirm

03:27:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003378

with the records of the DBM on that.

03:27:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003379

Particularly for

03:27:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003380

yung sa wala po

03:27:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003381

yung

03:27:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003382

funding for new teacher

03:27:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003383

one positions.

03:27:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003384

Before that,

03:27:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003385

yung sa MOE po,

03:28:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003386

for example, sa DepEd,

03:28:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003387

bakit po less than 1%

03:28:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003388

yung increase ng mga MOE ng DepEd?

03:28:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003389

In effect, parang nabawasan

03:28:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003390

kasi nga, inflation, di ba?

03:28:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003391

Yes. As for the DBM,

03:28:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003392

Madam Speaker,

03:28:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003393

may formula daw po na

03:28:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003394

ginagamit

03:28:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003395

to determine kung ano po yung

03:28:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003396

MOE per

03:28:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003397

school.

03:28:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003398

So, may enrollment.

03:28:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003399

So, enrollment.

03:28:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003400

Mukhang may problema

03:28:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003401

sa formula.

03:28:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003402

Kung ang resulta nito, liliit pa

03:28:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003403

ang MOE.

03:28:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003404

Yes.

03:28:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003405

Yes.

03:28:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003406

DBM will,

03:28:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003407

well, it's

03:28:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003408

in continuous talks with the DepEd.

03:28:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003409

Kasi apparently po,

03:28:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003410

re-revise naman po continually

03:28:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003411

itong formula na ito. Kasi the first,

03:28:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003412

at least the preliminary

03:28:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003413

levels are actually lower.

03:28:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003414

Yeah.

03:29:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003415

They started revising the formulas

03:29:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003416

na po noong 2025.

03:29:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003417

So, in constant revision naman po

03:29:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003418

itong formula.

03:29:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003419

Well, it seems the formula

03:29:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003420

is not

03:29:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003421

working as it should. Kasi,

03:29:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003422

yung 2020,

03:29:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003423

sabi nyo 2025,

03:29:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003424

yung 2027 proposal nyo

03:29:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003425

is only

03:29:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003426

fractionally

03:29:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003427

higher than the

03:29:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003428

2026 level.

03:29:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003429

So,

03:29:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003430

mukhang may,

03:29:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003431

hindi man lang

03:29:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003432

naka-indexed

03:29:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003433

to inflation. Ika nga.

03:29:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003434

Yes, the

03:29:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003435

DepEd and the DBM will

03:29:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003436

review again.

03:29:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003437

Please review. At dapat gawan to

03:29:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003438

ng

03:29:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003439

paraan ng kongreso.

03:29:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003440

In this case, no?

03:29:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003441

Ganun po. Ganun din po

03:29:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003442

sa DOH. Bakit po

03:29:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003443

nabawasan yung MOE? You know, during the

03:30:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003446

budget briefings? A representative of

03:30:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003447

the DVM, tinanong ko eh, sabi nila

03:30:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003448

kaya daw po binawasan yung

03:30:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003449

MOE ng mga DOH hospitals

03:30:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003450

kasi may ma-e-fip naman daw.

03:30:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003451

Madam Speaker, for

03:30:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003452

the levels of

03:30:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003453

the DOH, the budget,

03:30:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003454

kasi ano po yan eh, multiple

03:30:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003455

components, yung GAA

03:30:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003456

level, which is yung National Government Subsidy,

03:30:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003457

but also they get transfers

03:30:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003458

and PhilHealth. So, part po

03:30:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003459

yun nung overall calculus.

03:30:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003460

Sabi nila, anyway, they get income

03:30:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003461

aside from self-generated

03:30:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003462

income, PhilHealth is income,

03:30:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003463

ma-e-fip is also considered

03:30:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003464

income. Sabi po natin,

03:30:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003465

iba yung income,

03:30:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003466

PhilHealth reimbursement

03:30:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003467

pa yan eh, kailan darating yan?

03:30:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003468

As against MOE, na nandyan

03:30:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003469

na. Diba?

03:30:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003470

Operating budget na

03:30:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003471

ngayon, ang problema mo,

03:30:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003472

you starve the hospitals,

03:30:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003473

of readily

03:30:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003474

on-hand MOE,

03:31:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003475

ngayon, sasabihin ng hospital,

03:31:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003476

sorry, wala kaming pambili ng ano eh,

03:31:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003477

wala kaming gamot,

03:31:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003478

wala kaming ganitong supply, this or that supply,

03:31:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003479

bilin mo sa labas.

03:31:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003480

Ganun ang nangyayari niyan. Anyway,

03:31:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003481

so, we're flagging this issue

03:31:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003482

as well, and dapat i-address to ng

03:31:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003483

hopefully,

03:31:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003484

ng Kongreso. Okay.

03:31:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003485

So, sabi ko nga, inilakihan,

03:31:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003486

binalik nyo yung flood control, binawasan

03:31:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003487

nyo naman itong mga ito. So, tutul po tayo,

03:31:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003488

yan, dapat ma-address to.

03:31:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003489

Okay, next issue.

03:31:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003490

Pizarro.

03:31:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003491

Pizarro. Okay. Yung

03:31:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003492

kontrobersyal na Pizarro.

03:31:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003493

For 2026,

03:31:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003494

yung in-issue nyo po na

03:31:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003495

implementation ng

03:31:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003496

GAA,

03:31:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003497

it would appear na

03:31:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003498

a total of 1.5 trillion

03:31:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003499

pesos yung naka-Pizarro. Tama po ba?

03:31:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003500

1.55 trillion

03:32:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003501

of the

03:32:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003502

2026 GAA,

03:32:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003503

ganung kalaki

03:32:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003504

ang Pizarro.

03:32:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003505

This is based on

03:32:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003506

Pizarro.

03:32:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003508

Yes, the DBM confirms, Madam Speaker. So, 1.55 trillion.

03:33:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003509

So, imagine, out of the total GAA, 6.8 trillion?

03:33:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003510

Was it 6.8 trillion?

03:33:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003511

6.793.

03:33:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003512

Out of the 6.79 trillion GAA, January 5, 2026, nag-issue na kayo nung National Budget Circle na nyo.

03:33:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003513

And of the 6.8 trillion peso budget, 1.55 trillion for later release or PISARO.

03:33:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003514

So, naka-delay na.

03:33:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003515

Okay.

03:33:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003516

Of that, of that 1.5 trillion, magkano na po yung, kasi alam natin, okay, bakit po PISARO?

03:33:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003517

Diba ang policy is, if it's a congressional intervention, then automatic PISARO.

03:34:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003518

Yun ba yun?

03:34:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003519

Yun ba yun?

03:34:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003520

Okay.

03:34:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003521

Okay.

03:34:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003522

For my requirements, please.

03:34:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003523

Okay.

03:34:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003524

Okay, I heard the answer.

03:34:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003525

Sige po.

03:34:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003526

Go ahead.

03:34:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003527

No, but you have to state it on the record.

03:34:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003528

Yes.

03:34:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003529

Well, particularly for, well, there are two types of PISARO.

03:34:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003530

So, well, one of which would be the lump sum funds, which they comply with requirements

03:34:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003531

before the release of PISARO.

03:34:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003532

Okay.

03:34:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003533

Okay.

03:34:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003534

So, that would be 600 billion.

03:34:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003535

So, of the 1.55 trillion, isa na po talaga doon yung special purpose funds, diba, yung

03:34:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003536

lump sum funds, which requires omission of a special budget, special, ano tawag din doon,

03:35:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003537

special budget.

03:35:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003538

Yes.

03:35:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003539

597 billion of the 1.5 trillion PISARO.

03:35:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003540

So, of that, magkano doon yung congressional insertion or amendment?

03:35:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003541

Okay.

03:35:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003542

So, of that, magkano doon yung congressional insertion or amendment?

03:35:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003543

Yes.

03:35:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003544

924.

03:35:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003545

924 billion for the departments, but not all of those would be from the Congress, kasi

03:35:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003546

some of them are being managed by the central offices also.

03:36:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003547

Okay.

03:36:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003548

So, 900 of the 1.5, 924?

03:36:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003549

924, yes.

03:36:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003550

Billion are department PISARO, hindi special purpose fund, yanon po ba?

03:36:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003551

Yes.

03:36:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003552

I don't see here.

03:36:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003553

Okay.

03:36:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003554

All right.

03:36:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003555

Well, my point here is, hindi po ba kayo sangayon na yung because of the, our budget process

03:36:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003556

na merong NEP, tapos merong congressional insertion, and then PISARO, ang nagiging

03:36:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003557

epekto po niyan, delay.

03:36:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003558

Sa halip na mapatupad sa fiscal year, yung proyekto, magba-validation muna, and then

03:36:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003559

basically, second half of the year na yung pagpapabid and award, then implementation will

03:36:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003560

be, you know, either end of the year or next year.

03:37:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003561

Kaya po, dalawang taon ang typical na timeframe na binibigay for obligation and award and

03:37:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003562

so on.

03:37:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003563

Okay.

03:37:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003564

Hmm.

03:37:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003565

Hmm.

03:37:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003566

, ah, yes, we agree with, ah, the honorable Pino.

03:37:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003567

Um, yeah, with regards to the evaluation of the PISAROs, kaya po nadedelay kasi new projects

03:37:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003568

talaga siya.

03:37:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003569

Hmm.

03:37:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003570

So, yun, yun yung one of the causes.

03:38:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003571

Okay.

03:38:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003572

This includes classrooms, for example.

03:38:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003573

No?

03:38:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003574

So, isang napakalaking problema ng administrasyong ito, yung napakabagal na delivery on the construction

03:38:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003575

of classroom.

03:38:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003576

And, ah, one reason there is, yun nga, hintayin pa yung listahan ng mga congressman.

03:38:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003577

Okay.

03:38:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003578

Yung mga senador.

03:38:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003579

It takes a long time to validate.

03:38:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003580

Ang tagal tuloy.

03:38:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003581

The target for construction for 2027, 700 classrooms lang daw.

03:38:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003582

Yung target for construction.

03:38:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003583

Yung actual completion, ah.

03:38:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003584

700 lang.

03:38:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003585

Hmm.

03:38:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003586

Out of more than 6,000 funded.

03:38:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003587

Okay.

03:38:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003588

My point being, ang, ang punto lang po natin, we see how the, this pork barrel system, ah,

03:38:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003589

ah, now is becoming the bottleneck to the urgent delivery of public infrastructure

03:38:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003590

for the people.

03:38:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003591

Yun na po nangyayari.

03:38:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003592

Hadlang na po.

03:38:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003593

No?

03:38:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003594

Kailangan baguhin.

03:39:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003595

Now, I know, tapos na yung oras.

03:39:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003596

Kaya, ah, huling topic na hindi ko na talaga palalalimit.

03:39:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003597

Alam ko naman, meron pang pagkakataon na bumalik ang DBM.

03:39:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003617

Panimula na lang po.

03:39:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003618

This has to do with the LGSF.

03:39:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003619

Okay?

03:39:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003620

Ah, we might just see.

03:39:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003621

Last na po itong slide natin.

03:39:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003622

So, as we know, yung LGSF po talagang lumaki nung 2026.

03:39:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003623

Diba?

03:39:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003624

Particularly the financial assistance to local government unit.

03:39:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003625

No?

03:39:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003626

So, and I heard, I heard earlier.

03:39:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003627

Sabi nyo...

03:39:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003628

. 나 ... humihingi.

03:39:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003629

Ano ba yung mga proyektong pinondohan sa FALGU?

03:39:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003630

Financial Assistance to LGUs.

03:39:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003631

Sabi nyo, may website kayo.

03:39:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003632

So, kinuha namin yung dato sa website.

03:40:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003633

But your website is really not that user-friendly.

03:40:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003634

So, anyway,

03:40:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003635

nandito,

03:40:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003636

makikita dito

03:40:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003637

yung top 60

03:40:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003638

LGUs

03:40:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003639

that received

03:40:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003640

that received

03:40:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003641

financial assistance

03:40:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003642

for 2025 and 2026.

03:40:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003643

I think this is 2025.

03:40:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003644

May paraan ba para palakihin yan?

03:40:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003645

Okay.

03:40:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003646

So in 2025,

03:40:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003647

The top recipient of FALGU

03:40:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003648

of financial assistance

03:40:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003649

was the city of Manila.

03:40:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003650

With 530 million pesos,

03:40:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003651

the second,

03:40:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003652

number two,

03:40:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003653

the city of Naga,

03:40:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003654

with 500 million pesos.

03:40:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003655

So, kakaiba,

03:40:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003656

napakalaki po ng mga ito.

03:40:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003657

Whereas all the other cities,

03:40:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003658

nasa mga 30 million,

03:41:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003659

25 million,

03:41:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003660

ang kanilang natanggap.

03:41:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003661

So, if you look at city of Manila,

03:41:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003662

if you hover over the...

03:41:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003663

Ayan po.

03:41:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003664

Yung 530 million pesos,

03:41:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003665

ang pinakamalaking item yan,

03:41:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003666

single item,

03:41:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003667

500 million

03:41:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003668

for a building

03:41:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003669

in the pamantasan

03:41:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003670

ng Lunsug ng Maynila.

03:41:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003671

So, binigyan sila ng 500 million.

03:41:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003672

Sa Naga naman,

03:41:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003673

ito, this is well covered.

03:41:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003674

Yung 500 million

03:41:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003675

na natanggap ng Naga,

03:41:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003676

450 million of that

03:41:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003677

was for the

03:41:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003678

multi-purpose building

03:41:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003679

comprehensive building.

03:41:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003680

Retrofitting and rehabilitation

03:41:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003681

of the Jesse M. Robredo

03:41:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003682

Coliseum

03:41:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003683

or stadium

03:41:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003684

in Naga City.

03:41:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003685

430 million,

03:41:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003686

450 million.

03:42:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003687

Whereas,

03:42:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003688

yung typical

03:42:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003689

ng mga

03:42:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003690

LGUs, yung typical na

03:42:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003691

infrastructure project na binibigay sa kanila,

03:42:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003692

let's see a random one

03:42:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003693

near the bottom,

03:42:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003694

eh,

03:42:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003695

ayan, for example,

03:42:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003696

the LGU of Kinuguitan,

03:42:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003697

Misamis Oriental,

03:42:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003698

nakatanggap ng 25 million.

03:42:26Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003699

Please wrap up,

03:42:27Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003700

representative team.

03:42:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003701

So, improvement of water supply,

03:42:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003702

10 million,

03:42:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003703

concreting of local road in Barangay,

03:42:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003704

5 million, etc., etc.

03:42:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003705

So, ganun po ang range

03:42:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003706

ng mga proyekto na pinupondohan

03:42:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003707

ng financial assistance

03:42:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003708

to LGUs.

03:42:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003709

And this is, according to your guidelines,

03:42:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003710

purely at the discretion of the

03:42:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003711

DBM.

03:42:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003712

Di po ba? Kayo nag-de-decide.

03:42:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003713

So,

03:42:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003714

ano po ang basis nyo

03:42:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003715

para mag-decide,

03:43:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003716

okay, yung Manila, bibigyan namin ng

03:43:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003717

500 million

03:43:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003718

para sa kanilang isang building.

03:43:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003719

Yung Naga, bibigyan namin ng

03:43:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003720

450 million

03:43:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003721

para sa kanilang Coliseum.

03:43:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003722

Samantalang, yung ibang mga bayan,

03:43:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003723

okay, tigpa 5 million

03:43:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003724

na kayo na Barangay Road.

03:43:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003725

How do you explain that?

03:43:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003726

In other words,

03:43:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003727

we're talking about equitable

03:43:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003728

distribution

03:43:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003729

of resources.

03:43:30Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003730

Madam Sponsor, please answer

03:43:32Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003731

the question so that we can wrap up.

03:43:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003732

Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:43:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003733

As for DBM,

03:43:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003734

it really depends on

03:43:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003735

which particular LGUs

03:43:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-003736

submit project proposal.

03:43:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003737

Yes, so

03:43:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003738

sa unahan lang na submit.

03:43:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003739

Whoever is submitting.

03:43:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003740

Okay. Anyway, Madam Speaker,

03:43:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003741

alam ko wala ng oras.

03:43:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003742

So, inahighlight lang po natin

03:43:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003743

yung concern natin regarding

03:43:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003744

the LGSF,

03:44:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003745

particularly, the discretionary

03:44:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003746

nature of

03:44:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003747

financial assistance to LGUs.

03:44:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003748

Napaka, kitang-kita nyo

03:44:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003749

naman yung disparity

03:44:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003750

dito.

03:44:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003751

So, we question,

03:44:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003752

for instance,

03:44:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003753

sole approving authority

03:44:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003754

dito ang DBM.

03:44:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003755

Nasa inyo yan.

03:44:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003756

Okay. So, yun po ang kinikwestiyon natin.

03:44:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003757

As I said,

03:44:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003758

we're raising the question now.

03:44:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003759

Mas malaki pa rin yung

03:44:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003760

proposed appropriation

03:44:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003761

for LGSF

03:44:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003762

including Falgo for 2027.

03:44:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003763

So, kaya patuloy pa rin natin tatanungin yan.

03:44:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003764

I believe we will have an opportunity

03:44:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003765

when it comes to lump sum,

03:44:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003766

funds.

03:44:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003767

So, to be continued pa po ito,

03:44:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003768

Madam Speaker,

03:44:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003769

maraming salamat po sa sponsor.

03:44:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003770

Hanggang dito na lamang po.

03:44:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003771

At again, huwag natin kalimutan,

03:45:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003773

2027, malinaw na po, magkakaroon ng increase sa pera.

03:45:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003774

Hanggang ito na lang muna tayo.

03:45:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003775

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:45:08Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003776

Thank you.

03:45:09Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003777

Majority Leader?

03:45:18Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003778

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Serge Dagoac for his interpellation.

03:45:24Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003779

Representative Sergio Dagoac of APEC Partylist is hereby recognized.

03:45:30Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003780

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:45:35Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003781

Thank you, Majority Leader.

03:45:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003782

Magandang umaga na po sa ating lahat.

03:45:40Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003783

I was tasked to terminate the budget interpellation and debate on DIPDIV.

03:45:52Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003784

However, I would like to manifest first that

03:45:55Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003785

I have

03:45:59Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003786

still a lot of

03:46:01Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003787

frustrations with

03:46:04Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003788

the way the PSA

03:46:08Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003789

fulfill their mandate under their charter.

03:46:14Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003790

So,

03:46:15Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003791

there being no other members of the minority who wish to interpellate

03:46:22Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003792

as of this morning

03:46:23Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003793

to the budget of the DIPDIV,

03:46:26Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003794

I move, Madam Speaker,

03:46:29Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003795

to terminate the interpellation and debate

03:46:32Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003796

on the budget of DIPDIV and its attached agencies

03:46:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003797

excluding the PSA.

03:46:43Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003798

Kasi kailangan pang pag-usapan dito

03:46:47Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003799

on other

03:46:48Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003800

other

03:46:50Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003801

DIPDIV yung budget ng PSE

03:46:54Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003802

because that has

03:46:56Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003803

bearing on our decisions.

03:46:59Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003804

Kita mo naman halos lahat

03:47:00Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003805

sa budget, et cetera,

03:47:03Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003806

CBMS,

03:47:04Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003807

puro po data gathering ang problema.

03:47:08Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003808

I cannot understand

03:47:09Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003809

bakit umabot ng anim na taon

03:47:12Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003810

yung sinasabi nyo kanina,

03:47:14Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003811

pero taon-taon,

03:47:15Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003812

ako as a general manager of two electric cooperatives,

03:47:19Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003813

no,

03:47:20Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003814

ay nagfi-fill up

03:47:23Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003815

ng utility survey.

03:47:26Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003816

Taon-taon po yun.

03:47:28Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003817

Kaya,

03:47:29Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003818

I could not understand.

03:47:30Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003819

Kailangang mabosisi yun

03:47:32Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003820

because that has a lot of bearing

03:47:34Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003821

on the decision-making of our budget.

03:47:37Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003822

So,

03:47:38Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003823

I so move, Madam Speaker.

03:47:41Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003824

What does the House say?

03:47:44Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003825

Madam Speaker,

03:47:46Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003826

on the part of the majority,

03:47:48Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003827

we join the minority

03:47:49Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003828

in the motion to terminate the interpellations

03:47:52Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003829

of the proposed budget

03:47:53Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003830

of the Department of

03:47:55Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003831

Economy, Planning, and Development,

03:47:58Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003832

including the attached agencies

03:47:58Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-003833

excluding PSA.

03:48:02Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003834

There is a joint motion to terminate

03:48:04Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003835

the interpellations of the proposed budget

03:48:07Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003836

of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development,

03:48:10Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003837

including attached agencies except PSA.

03:48:14Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003838

Is there any objection?

03:48:16Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003839

The chair hears none.

03:48:18Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003840

The interpellations of the said proposed budget

03:48:20Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003841

is hereby terminated.

03:48:22Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003842

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:48:24Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003843

Thank you, DIPDIV.

03:48:25Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003844

Majority Leader.

03:48:38Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003847

Majority Leader.

03:48:39Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003848

Madam Speaker,

03:48:40Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003849

I move to recognize

03:48:41Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003850

the Honorable Antonio Tino.

03:48:50Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003851

Representative Tino is hereby recognized.

03:48:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003852

Madam Speaker,

03:48:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003853

it is my honor

03:48:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003854

in behalf of the minority

03:48:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003855

to move for the termination

03:48:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003856

of the budget deliberation

03:49:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003857

of the deliberations on the budget,

03:49:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003858

the proposed budget

03:49:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003859

of the Department of Budget and Management.

03:49:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003860

I so move, Madam Speaker.

03:49:12Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003861

What does the House say?

03:49:16Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003862

Madam Speaker,

03:49:17Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003863

on the part of the majority,

03:49:19Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003864

we join the minority on the motion

03:49:21Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003865

to terminate the period of interpellations

03:49:23Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003866

on the proposed budget

03:49:25Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003867

of Department of Budget and Management

03:49:28Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003868

including Attach Agency.

03:49:30Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003869

There is a joint motion

03:49:31Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003870

to terminate the interpellations

03:49:33Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003871

on the proposed budget

03:49:34Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003872

of the Department of Budget and Management.

03:49:36Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003873

Is there any objection?

03:49:38Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003874

The chair hears none.

03:49:40Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003875

The interpellations on the proposed budget

03:49:41Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003876

of the Department of Budget and Management

03:49:43Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003877

is hereby terminated.

03:49:47Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003878

Majority Leader.

03:49:53Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003879

Madam Speaker,

03:49:55Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003880

I move to...

03:49:58Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003881

to suspend session for a few minutes.

03:50:00Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003882

Session is suspended.

03:51:35Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003890

Session is resumed.

03:51:37Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003891

Majority Leader.

03:51:38Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-003892

Madam Speaker,

03:51:39Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-003893

I move to recognize

03:51:40Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-003894

the Honorable Sergio Dago.

03:51:41Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003895

The Honorable Dago

03:51:42Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003896

is hereby recognized.

03:51:45Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003897

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:51:47Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003898

Madam Speaker,

03:51:48Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003899

I move to withdraw

03:51:51Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003900

my previous motion

03:51:53Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003901

and amend the same.

03:51:57Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003902

Thank you.

03:51:57Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003903

Is there any objection?

03:51:58Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003904

The Chair hears none. Please proceed.

03:52:01Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003905

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:52:02Source

Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc

asr-003906

So, I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the budget of DIPDIV and its attached agencies and corporations except the PSA.

03:52:20Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003907

What does the House say?

03:52:21Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-003908

Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except the PSA.

03:52:37Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003909

There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation of the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except PSA.

03:52:49Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003910

Is there any objection?

03:52:50Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003911

The Chair hears none.

03:52:51Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003912

The Interpellations on the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except the PSA, is hereby terminated.

03:53:02Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003913

Majority Leader.

03:53:03Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003914

Madam Speaker, I move to suspend consideration of House Bill 10858.

03:53:09Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003915

Is there any objection?

03:53:10Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003916

The Chair hears none. The motion is approved.

03:53:14Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003917

Majority Leader.

03:53:18Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003918

Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session.

03:53:21Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-003919

until September 16 at 10 a.m.

03:53:30Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003920

Is there any objection?

03:53:31Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003921

The Chair hears none.

03:53:33Source

Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez

asr-003922

The session is suspended until September 16 at 10 o'clock in the morning.