1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: our sources 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of growth. Of course, we want 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to promote investments, strategic 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: investments with building 5 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:09,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: up our local industries. 6 00:00:10,340 --> 00:00:12,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We also want to 7 00:00:12,060 --> 00:00:13,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: promote 8 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:15,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: our export sector. 9 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 10 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:21,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 11 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:23,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, ang kasama sa bawat 12 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:24,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gastos na ito, 13 00:00:26,020 --> 00:00:28,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula sa ating household final consumption 14 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: expenditure, 15 00:00:29,220 --> 00:00:31,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay ang total spending 16 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:33,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga households pagdating 17 00:00:33,460 --> 00:00:35,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kanilang paggastos 18 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga goods and services 19 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kanilang direkta na kinukonsumo. 20 00:00:40,860 --> 00:00:41,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At 21 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:43,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakadikit, nakalakip 22 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:45,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga ito ay ang patong-patong 23 00:00:45,900 --> 00:00:47,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na buwis na binabayaran 24 00:00:47,820 --> 00:00:49,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tulad ng 12% 25 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na value-added tax. 26 00:00:51,420 --> 00:00:53,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung kinikilala mismo na ating 27 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pamahalaan na labis 28 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:57,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pagdepende ng ating 29 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: economy mismo 30 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa household consumption 31 00:01:00,700 --> 00:01:02,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at serbisyo, 32 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang patuloy na pagpataw 33 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng patong-patong na buwi, 34 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gaya ng VAT, ay lalong 35 00:01:09,020 --> 00:01:11,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagpapahina rin sa purchasing power 36 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:11,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mamamayan. 37 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:14,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagamat may mga proposals ngayon na 38 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mapataas yung threshold 39 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating sa 40 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: personal tax income, 41 00:01:21,460 --> 00:01:23,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga ganun pong mga 42 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proposals, pero 43 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi pa yan napapasa ngayon. 44 00:01:26,540 --> 00:01:28,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang meron ngayon ay 45 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung 46 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: patong-patong na mga buwis 47 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pinapasan ng ordinaryong 48 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:35,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mamamayan. Sa katunayan, 49 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas mataas ho ang ating VAT 50 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: collection ngayon, lalong-lalo na 51 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa diesel at sa iba pang 52 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga petroleum products, dulot 53 00:01:43,220 --> 00:01:45,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagtaas ng presyo ng mga 54 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:46,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilihin. Sa 55 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2027, inaasahan na 56 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makakolekta ang pamahalaan ng 57 00:01:50,940 --> 00:01:52,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 860 billion pesos 58 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula sa VAT. Mula 59 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:57,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa 2025, yan ho 60 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nasa 609.5% 61 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng 6 billion. Ngunit 62 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa 2027, yan 63 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nakikita natin 64 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natataas ng 860 65 00:02:07,340 --> 00:02:09,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: billion pesos. Yan ho 66 00:02:09,340 --> 00:02:11,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating tunguhin. At katulad 67 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng nasabi ng ating sponsor, 68 00:02:13,820 --> 00:02:16,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga plano para mag-diversify 69 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pwedeng 70 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga sources 71 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:20,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng paglago ng ating 72 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ekonomiya. Ngunit sa ngayon, 73 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakikita natin na napakabagal 74 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at wala tayo 75 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ganung direksyon. 76 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isang ayon naman, 77 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, sa 78 00:02:32,620 --> 00:02:35,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2027 Budget of Expenditures 79 00:02:35,060 --> 00:02:36,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and Sources of Financing, 80 00:02:38,940 --> 00:02:40,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung nabanggit ko kanina na inaasahan 81 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:43,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin ang makolekta mula sa VAT 82 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:45,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 860 billion pesos, 83 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ibig sabihin ba meron tayong 84 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:51,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: inaasahan na 97.6 85 00:02:51,620 --> 00:02:52,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: billion pesos o 86 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 12.8% na 87 00:02:55,060 --> 00:02:57,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtaas sa koleksyon mula sa VAT 88 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa loob lamang ng ekon. 89 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin po yung ating 90 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: projected na increase 91 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa koleksyon ng VAT 92 00:03:04,460 --> 00:03:06,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay may pagtaas na 93 00:03:06,820 --> 00:03:08,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 97.6 billion pesos. 94 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 95 00:03:13,420 --> 00:03:14,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEV's position would be 96 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:17,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: probably the DOF would be 97 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: better, in a better 98 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:21,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: position to answer 99 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with revenue projection, 100 00:03:23,020 --> 00:03:23,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particular to the VAT. 101 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:27,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Samantalang sa supply side naman, 102 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula taong 2023, 103 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hanggang 2025, 104 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 1.8% lang ang ambag 105 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng agriculture, forestry, at 106 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: fishing sa ating GDP growth 107 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na sinundan ng industry 108 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nasa 19.8%. 109 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang Pilipinas, 110 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakaraming din po natin, nasa 111 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 10 million yung ating mga registered 112 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na farmers and fisher folk. 113 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit napakaliit ng kanilang 114 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: contribution sa GDP 115 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil na rin sa maraming mga 116 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dinadaing na mga issue, 117 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kulad ng mataas na cost of food, 118 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: production, nandyan din ang 119 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sunod-sunod na kalamidad, 120 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kulang na kulang din yung mga 121 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: subsidiya na available sa kanila 122 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para makapagpatuloy sa production. 123 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, sa 124 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: assessment po ba ng DEV-DEV, 125 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: anong dahilan 126 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung bakit napakalaki 127 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng binagsak ng ating 128 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agrikultura sa paglago 129 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating ekonomiya? 130 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for 2025 131 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: alone, are we looking at 132 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: multi-year? 133 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just for clarification, so we can pull up the data. 134 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: From the data from 135 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the years 2023 to 2025. 136 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakababa po nito. 137 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nasa 1.8% 138 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lamang. 139 00:04:51,200 --> 00:05:01,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you. 140 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 141 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's a combination of 142 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: external factors at the same 143 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: time, those that are germane 144 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to the agricultural sector. 145 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For one, in 2023 146 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to 2024, there was 147 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: El Nino event. 148 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So that is probably one of the 149 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: main causes of 150 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the decline in productivity 151 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and production in 152 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the agriculture and the fishery sector. 153 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Besides that, 154 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of course, 155 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Typhoon Taeng happened 156 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in 2023. 157 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There's a myriad of typhoons 158 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that hit 159 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: not just rice 160 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: centers but all of our agricultural 161 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: communities. 162 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Besides that, the DEV-DEV is 163 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: citing also that in general 164 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is a persistent 165 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: problem of low 166 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: productivity in the agricultural 167 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: fishery sector. 168 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Also, declining farm sizes. 169 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yields 170 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: are variable and volatile. 171 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So these are just 172 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: some of the reasons why 173 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is a decline 174 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least from 2023 to 2025. 175 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 176 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang suliran natin, Madam Speaker, 177 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi sinasalamin 178 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating pondo. 179 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung gano'ng pinakailangan supportahan 180 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lokal na agrikultura, 181 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating lokal na produkton. Halimbawa, 182 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: namanggit ng ating Distinguished Director 183 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung tungkol sa 184 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: impact ng extreme weather events. 185 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na ngayon, pinaghahandaan 186 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin for El Nino. 187 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero hindi mo sa malinaw na makita 188 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pondo ng Department of Agriculture, 189 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ibang mga 190 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: relevant pa na agencies, 191 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano natin yan natutukunan. 192 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pangalawa, nabanggit din yung mga 193 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: factors ng 194 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakataas na cost of production, 195 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa paggamit ng crudo 196 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na parehong ginagamit ng mga magsasaka 197 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at ng mga may ngita. Hindi rin natin 198 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakita ng malinaw nasan ba yung mga 199 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: fuel subsidies, nasan ba yung 200 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tuloy-tuloy na assistance para sa 201 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: farmer and petro. 202 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandyan din po yung 203 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa factor 204 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din ng pag-review 205 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin. Last year pa lang sinabi 206 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na natin, nabubusisi natin 207 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung liberalization 208 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating sa rice production 209 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at yung pag- 210 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itiyak ng rice self-sufficiency 211 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito sa ating bansa. 212 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit muli, hindi natin nakita 213 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating national budget 214 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na buong-buo yung supporta natin para 215 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa hindi lang sa bigas 216 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na itiyakin ang self-sufficiency 217 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero mapababa mismo yung ating 218 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: food import dependence 219 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakita natin for the past 220 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: a few years, lalong lumaki 221 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga pangunahing pagkain 222 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mamamayang Pilipinas. 223 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sabi rin Madam Speaker ng DepDiv na 224 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 8.8 million na mga 225 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pilipino ang 226 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lifted out of poverty 227 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matapos bumaba ang poverty incidence 228 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula 18.1% 229 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong 2021, tungo sa 230 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 9.7% 231 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong 2025. Maaari po 232 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bang linawi ng DepDiv 233 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung anong ibig sabihin natin na 234 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa 8.8 million 235 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mga Pilipino ang aktual 236 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nagkaroon pa 237 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng matatag at 238 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sapat na kita o 239 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nangangahulugan lamang ito ng 240 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang kita ay lumagpas 241 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa naitakda na poverty threshold. 242 00:08:54,660 --> 00:08:55,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, 243 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:57,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the DepDev 244 00:08:57,180 --> 00:08:59,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: confirms that there 245 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:00,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: are 8.8 million 246 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: individuals 247 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: who were lifted 248 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: out of poverty from 2021 to 2025. 249 00:09:09,340 --> 00:09:11,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The definition of that would be 250 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they crossed the income threshold 251 00:09:13,820 --> 00:09:17,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to the poverty line. 252 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, maraming salamat po. 253 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:21,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa totoo lang, 254 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:23,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sinabi rin sa atin dito ng DSWD 255 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po sila sa ating budget. 256 00:09:25,260 --> 00:09:28,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa katunayan, yung maski yung mga 257 00:09:28,420 --> 00:09:30,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakalagpas na doon sa poverty threshold, 258 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:33,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga near poor ay talagang 259 00:09:33,260 --> 00:09:35,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sobrang mga nangangailangan pa rin 260 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at marami ay walang sapat na kabuhayan, 261 00:09:38,500 --> 00:09:40,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: walang sapat na pinagkakakitaan. 262 00:09:40,620 --> 00:09:44,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya nga naman ay masasabi natin 263 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na marami pa ring mga programa 264 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang kinakailangan 265 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:49,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak na yung mga sinasabi 266 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga nakatawid 267 00:09:50,460 --> 00:09:52,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mananatiling makatawid. 268 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, 269 00:09:53,840 --> 00:10:16,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano ba yung mga garantiya at mga programa na magtitiyak na yung mga kababayan natin na sinasabi natin na wala na doon sa poverty threshold, na sa tingin ho natin ay napakababa pa rin doon sa kasalukuyang mataas na presyo ng mga bilihin, 270 00:10:16,740 --> 00:10:26,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ay mananatili sila na may mas mataas na opportunities na magkaroon ng disenting sahod at trabaho. 271 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa katunayan din, Madam Speaker, noong pumarap din dito ang DOLE, sinabi rin natin sa kanila yung concern din ng isa nating kasamahan tungkol sa mababang sahod. 272 00:10:37,860 --> 00:10:46,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa na-report sa atin ng DepDev, sinabi nila na ang poverty threshold ngayon nasa 16,842 para sa pamilya ng lima sa NCR. 273 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:56,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa labas naman ito, nasa 14,634. Sa NCR pa lang, nasa 488 pesos lang po yan kada araw. 274 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:03,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit, kung sa NCR, medyo konting mas aangat yung minimum wage doon sa 488. 275 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:13,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero kung sa labas po ng NCR, nasa labing dalawa na region yung minimum wage na mas mababa sa threshold ng DepDev. 276 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kumbaga, hindi talaga sapat na isa lang yung nagtatrabaho. 277 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:26,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kailangan pa maraming nagtatrabaho o may dagdag na pagkakakitaan yung mga miyembro ng isang household. 278 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:41,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At makikita natin yan doon sa presentation din ng DepDev na pagamat meron tayong nasa 4 million jobs generated from 2020 to date, 279 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: marami naman dito ay underemployed. 280 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:54,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kumbaga, nagahanap pa ng dagdag na trabaho o kaya naman nadagdag doon sa kanilang current na pinagkakitaan 281 00:11:54,220 --> 00:11:58,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kaya naman ay nagtatrabaho ng less than 40 hours per week. 282 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:06,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin, talagang nagahanap ng dagdag, dagdag na kita bilang pangsuporta sa kanilang mga pamilya. 283 00:12:06,740 --> 00:12:10,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, meron tayong... 284 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:23,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito, napakalaki ng pondo natin para sa emergency assistance tulad ng TUPAD, ng AEC, ng MAEFIP para sa iba't ibang mga pangangailangan. 285 00:12:23,540 --> 00:12:33,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero, konti lang yung pondo para doon sa mga programang pagpapanatili sa kanila doon sa labas ng poverty. 286 00:12:33,940 --> 00:12:40,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa, yung Sustainable Livelihood Program, yung Micro-Small-Medium Enterprise Development Program. 287 00:12:40,540 --> 00:12:50,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sobrang konti lang yan, konting turot doon sa buong nabanggit natin ng mga programa na nasa daang-daang bilyon na. 288 00:12:50,240 --> 00:13:00,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, dito pa lang sa tingin ko, malaki na yung problema natin kung paano ba natin matitiyak na yung mga nakatawid ay hindi babalik doon sa lubos na kahirapan at gutom. 289 00:13:02,420 --> 00:13:10,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, nais ko pong magtanong tungkol sa mga public-private partnership projects na meron. 290 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:20,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa po, sa Naiya PPP Project, isa sa mga natagurian na fastest approved PPP proposal sa kasaysayan ng Pilipinas. 291 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:29,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagkatapos ng six weeks na evaluation, ito po ay naaprobahan ng NEDA noon, ngayon po ay Dep-Dev Board na. 292 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:38,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang tanong ko, Madam Speaker, bago po ba ito maaprobahan, nagkaroon ba ng consultation sa mga affected stakeholders? 293 00:13:40,540 --> 00:13:46,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano ang naging mekanism ng consultation? Ilang stakeholder consultations ba ang naisagawa? 294 00:13:46,780 --> 00:13:53,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sino-sino ang nakonsulta? At paano isinama sa concession agreement ang kanilang mga recommendations? 295 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:10,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, tumatakbo po yung oras ko kahit hinihintay pa po natin. 296 00:14:10,540 --> 00:14:12,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang ating distinct sponsor. 297 00:14:13,860 --> 00:14:15,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 298 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:29,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, in terms of the creation of the feasibility study, that is where the consultations for all local stakeholders were relevant to that particular project. 299 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:31,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That is where it's conducted. 300 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:35,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, for the record, nagkaroon po ng konsulta. 301 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:45,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, as for the Dep-Dev. 302 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:57,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang stakeholder consultations po yung nangyari. At lahat po ba ng affected na mga sectors sa na-IA ay ating nakonsulta? 303 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At naipasok po ba yung kanilang mga... 304 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: rekomendasyon sa naging outcome ng pag-aproba ng proyekto na ito. 305 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:14,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the DepDev is currently pulling out all details regarding to the project. 306 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we will just wait and we will submit to our distinguished colleague. 307 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:51,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, Madam Speaker. 308 00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:56,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Abangan po natin ang ulat at submission mula sa ating distinguished sponsor at sa DepDev. 309 00:15:56,740 --> 00:16:02,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po ay kaugnay ng lumalaganap na privatization at mollification ng mga palengke. 310 00:16:03,020 --> 00:16:12,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nasa palisiya ba ng pamahalaan na maipaubaya sa malalaking retailers yung pagpapaunlad ng ating public markets ngayon sa buong bansa? 311 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 312 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:28,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But the particular circumstance of that, Madam Speaker, that would be under the purview of the local government unit. 313 00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:37,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagamat, anan dyan po ang responsibilidad ng local government units noong pagdating sa market administration, 314 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:50,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: anan dyan din naman yung role halimbawa ng PPP Center pagdating sa pagtitiyak ng mga requirements at ng mga proposals na ito, lalong-lalo na sa mga USPs. 315 00:16:51,200 --> 00:17:08,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para matiyak na ito po ay hindi lang sumusunod sa mga requirements pero tumutugon din sa interest ng publiko, yung mutual benefits po ng publiko pati po ng privado pagdating sa ganitong mga proyekto. 316 00:17:08,180 --> 00:17:21,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang panawagan ng ating mga public markets, public and people partners, lalong-lalo na sa public markets na may mga vendors associations, retailers associations. 317 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:30,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Talagang people-powered yung ating mga public markets at sila po ay handang-handa kumbaga tuminding para maisalba ang kanilang public markets. 318 00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:37,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil nakita din natin, Madam Speaker, sa maraming lugar na may PPP ang kanilang mga merkado. 319 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:46,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na pag malalaking retailers yung pumasok sa kanilang mga markets, namamatay talaga yung mga maliliit na mga manininda. 320 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, tungkol po sa monitoring ng PPP. 321 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:59,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po ba kayong evaluation pagdating sa mga PPP projects? 322 00:18:00,260 --> 00:18:12,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakikita niyo po ba halimbawa sa case ng naiya privatization na kapag tumataas po yung fees sa airport o halimbawa po nung tayo ay humarap sa oil price shock, 323 00:18:12,980 --> 00:18:20,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lahat po ng ka-up airports nagkaroon ng pag-suspend ng mga increases sa kanilang mga passenger service charges. 324 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:44,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagdating naman sa rental fees ng vendors, marami pong mga PPPs na mga markets nakabatay na yung kanilang increases sa rental fees at iba't-ibang mga fees. 325 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi na po sa LGU pero nakabatay na kung sino private nila na partner. 326 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:51,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po bang monitoring? 327 00:18:51,200 --> 00:19:01,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi na po bang monitoring at evaluation ang PPP center pagdating sa ganitong mga kaso at meron ba tayong mechanism for redress of grievances in these instances? 328 00:19:04,460 --> 00:19:12,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, it would depend on the project. It's a project by project. It's a case by case basis. 329 00:19:12,580 --> 00:19:19,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It would depend on what the provisions are in the terms of contract of the project. 330 00:19:19,020 --> 00:19:21,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, I was assured... 331 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:34,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I was assured by the DEF-DEF that at least in terms of seeking redress just in case there are problems or challenges then there is a mechanism that... 332 00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:41,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There is a mechanism established where those who have grievances can report directly to the PPP center. 333 00:19:41,460 --> 00:19:50,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon po ba meron kayong mga kaso na hinahawakan tungkol dito na halimbawa ang isang partner LGU ay nais na pong putulin, 334 00:19:50,540 --> 00:20:04,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung baga wakasan na yung kanilang kontrata na napirmahan sa panahon na hindi po nasusunod yung mga dapat na basunod na nakasaalang-alang pa rin yung interest ng publiko. 335 00:20:05,260 --> 00:20:17,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sabi nga natin, di ba, partnership, pagdating sa mutual interest, mutual benefits, at hindi po yung isa lang ang pinakanakikinabang habang nasasakripisyo yung interest ng publiko. 336 00:20:18,220 --> 00:20:19,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 337 00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:30,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The PPP center has, it's handling cases where there are complaints with regards to privatization projects. 338 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We will just furnish you a copy because it's quite voluminous. 339 00:20:34,060 --> 00:20:48,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, at nananawagan din po ang representative ito dahil sa mga narinig natin ng mga issues at binanggit din ng ating sponsor na may mga complaints sa ngayon na hinaharap ang PPP center. 340 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:49,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa tingin ko, panahon na rin. 341 00:20:50,540 --> 00:20:55,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, ma-repaso, ma-review ng kapulungan na ito ang ating PPP center. 342 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:08,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, alam ko po, relatibong bago ito pero nung naipasan natin yung bago, di ba, marami din pong mga sumulpot na mga issues, mga concerns na nasa tungkulin natin na pakinggan at bigyan ng aksyon. 343 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:13,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yun lamang sa ngayon. Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor. 344 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Majority Leader. 345 00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:20,520 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we call on the Honorable Rene Luis Co. 346 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:24,320 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list for her interpellation. 347 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,920 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list is now recognized for her interpellation. 348 00:21:30,780 --> 00:21:36,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening to our distinguished sponsor at 10 p.m. 349 00:21:37,660 --> 00:21:46,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, my question is in relation to the Philippine Development Plan 2023 to 2028, 350 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we'd like to be enlightened as to... 351 00:21:50,540 --> 00:21:57,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: some parts of it and even updates given that the funding that we're discussing 352 00:21:57,700 --> 00:22:04,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will be about the second to the last year for the implementation of the Philippine Development Plan. 353 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, within the Philippine Development Plan 2023 to 2028, I quote, 354 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:17,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it is said that education policies have undermined better performing private schools 355 00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:19,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as seen in the declining share... 356 00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:23,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in private school enrollment, end quote. 357 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, what does this mean? 358 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:33,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this saying na negative key performance indicator ang pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools? 359 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For reference, this is page 45 of the Philippine Development Plan. 360 00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:01,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, if my time po... 361 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:50,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, while the Department is pulling up the justifications behind it, 362 00:25:50,540 --> 00:25:54,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Really, in terms of the declining share of private school enrollment, 363 00:25:55,060 --> 00:25:59,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's really because this was crafted in 2022, 364 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:07,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and during the pandemic period, a lot of private schools closed down. 365 00:26:07,780 --> 00:26:09,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, at least on that part. 366 00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:21,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With indulgence of our distinguished colleague, the Department is now pulling up the justification behind this statement. But rest assured, at least on the part of DepDev, 367 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:40,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this is not, it won't be an indicator of development. It is quite an [unclear] statement to make. 368 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:49,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At least on the part of this representation, that's not really aligned also with what the Philippine Development Plan endeavors to do. 369 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I agree, Madam Speaker. 370 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:57,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, under Article 14, Section 4 of the 1987 Constitution, 371 00:27:57,660 --> 00:28:04,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it says that the state recognizes the complementary roles of public and private institutions in the education system 372 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and shall exercise reasonable supervision and regulation of all educational institutions. 373 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:13,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We are alarmed by this statement, Madam Speaker, 374 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:20,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because EDCOM 2 has noted the trend in state universities and colleges, 375 00:28:20,540 --> 00:28:31,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as well as even basic educational institutions of the increase in enrollment in public educational institutions, 376 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:37,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: especially because of the advent of the universal access to quality tertiary education. 377 00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:44,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, to see this statement is alarming because it is saying, 378 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we're still continuously wondering what it's saying particularly, 379 00:28:47,540 --> 00:28:49,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is it saying na, 380 00:28:50,540 --> 00:28:57,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung pagbaba ng kalidad ng administrasyon ay sanhi ng pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools? 381 00:28:57,820 --> 00:29:00,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Or is it saying na ang pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools 382 00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:05,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay may implication din po ba ng pagbaba ng kalidad ng edukasyon? 383 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:15,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And does that not violate the complementarity principle of private and public education institutions as provided by the Constitution? 384 00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:20,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, can the Department submit a written explanation? 385 00:29:20,540 --> 00:29:26,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, can the Department submit a written explanation for this statement which is in the Philippine Development Plan? 386 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:39,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And if it would like to roll back maybe on that statement so as to not violate the complementarity principle of public and private educational institutions? 387 00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:40,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker? 388 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:44,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, Honorable Co. 389 00:29:44,380 --> 00:29:50,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that will comply, particularly with the detailed justification of why this, 390 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:53,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, statement was put inside the Philippine Development Plan. 391 00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:54,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes. 392 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, just as a final note, 393 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ah, it has not escaped this representation. 394 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:11,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: attention that there has been an increase in policies wherein there is an intent to roll back 395 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:19,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: support of the state to educational institutions, whether it be for pushing for public-private 396 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:25,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: partnerships in the creation of classrooms or the pushing of public-private partnerships 397 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:32,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in creating commercial spaces in higher educational institutions so as they could be 398 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:41,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: fiscally autonomous and thereby, at the end of the day, just provide justification for 399 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:48,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: either cutting or lessening the budget to be allocated to them, which to this representation 400 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:53,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: might be averse to the targets provided in the PDP itself. 401 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Under this, 402 00:30:55,700 --> 00:31:04,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I think page 48, it also says that government spending on education will be increased to 4-6% 403 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:13,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of GDP in line with the Education 2030 Framework for Action. So, unfortunately, it is also this 404 00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:14,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: um 405 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:25,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the provision of the NEP that the GDP to budget ratio to education has been, 406 00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:47,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lessened to around 3.95%, so I'd like to ask, kamusta po ba yung paggamit natin ng target na po ito na 6% of the GDP sana yung naka-allot sa education, given that we only have 2 years left to meet the targets of PDP? Madam Speaker. 407 00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:50,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, thank you Madam Speaker. 408 00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:55,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, at least in the Philippine Development Plan, 409 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as has been the policy of the national government, 410 00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:02,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: education has to be a priority. 411 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:04,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Unfortunately, 412 00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:09,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev's mandate is really just to formulate policies and recommend 413 00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:16,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: those policies, but it doesn't have power over the actual allocation of budget 414 00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the education sector. 415 00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May this representation ask, how has the department 416 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: either 417 00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:27,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: formulated a plan 418 00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:29,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or forwarded 419 00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:31,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the meeting of the target 420 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:33,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that there ought to be 6% 421 00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the budget 422 00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:37,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: allocated, equivalent 423 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:39,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our GDP, allocated 424 00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:41,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to education? So, 425 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:43,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as we know, it could have went to classrooms, 426 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it could have went to feeding programs, 427 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:47,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it could have went to the many capital outlay 428 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:49,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: requests of our 429 00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:51,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: state universities and colleges. 430 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:53,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Unfortunately, what is 431 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: still observable 432 00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:56,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is that 49 433 00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: out of the 113 434 00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:00,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: state universities and colleges 435 00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:02,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: suffered 436 00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:04,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a lowering 437 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:06,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of their budgets compared to last year, 438 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we call it a budget cut. 439 00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We also noticed the lowering, 440 00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a historic high 441 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the Department of Education 442 00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: compared to last year. 443 00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, we'd like to be enlightened 444 00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: how has the department 445 00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pushed forward for the meeting 446 00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this target? 447 00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 448 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:54,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, most of the policies 449 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that the DepDev 450 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:58,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: has recommended 451 00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:00,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: all were recommended 452 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:02,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to the EDCOM, the Education Committee. 453 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:04,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, 454 00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:06,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least the DepDev is very 455 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:08,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: active, not just as 456 00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:10,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: part of the Council, but 457 00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:12,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: even the Technical Secretariat. 458 00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, 459 00:34:14,700 --> 00:34:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of course, 460 00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we appreciate the work of 461 00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the DepDev in recommending to EDCOM, 462 00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but, 463 00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: perhaps, it ought to also 464 00:34:24,700 --> 00:34:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: consider 465 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: what are the economic 466 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:30,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: effects, the development effects, 467 00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:32,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the social effects as well, 468 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if the targets 469 00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:36,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: provided in the Philippine Development Plan 470 00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:38,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are not met. 471 00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:40,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, for now, 472 00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I do not, 473 00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:44,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation has not seen 474 00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:46,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from EDCOM 475 00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to any particular 476 00:34:48,700 --> 00:34:50,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: targeting of 477 00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a budgetary 478 00:34:52,700 --> 00:34:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: threshold of 6% 479 00:34:54,700 --> 00:34:56,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: equivalent 480 00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our GDP 481 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:00,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that is only found 482 00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:02,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the Philippine Development Plan 483 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:04,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the 2030 484 00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:06,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: framework, 485 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Education 2030 Framework for Action 486 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even in this representation's 487 00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bills, resolutions, 488 00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: privileged speeches 489 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the 490 00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: August Chamber. So, Madam Speaker, 491 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we look forward to 492 00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at least the report 493 00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that was requested by 494 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation today, 495 00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we'd like to reiterate again 496 00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:30,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that we notice 497 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:32,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the trend where the 498 00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: government favors instead 499 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:36,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the interests of 500 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:38,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: big businesses 501 00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:40,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or even the private sector 502 00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: over that of the 503 00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:44,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: public investment 504 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:46,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the education 505 00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the Filipino youth 506 00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:50,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: should this trend continue, 507 00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: whether it finds 508 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: justification or support with this statement. 509 00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:56,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 510 00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we look forward to that report. 511 00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:00,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next and last line of questioning 512 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:02,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would be about 513 00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:04,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Critical Minerals 514 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:06,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Memorandum of Understanding. 515 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We are 516 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one of the several 517 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: countries with which 518 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the United States has entered 519 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: into a Critical Minerals 520 00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Agreement after it has 521 00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: conducted several Critical Minerals 522 00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Commits and Meetings 523 00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wherein they 524 00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sought to 525 00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: enter into agreements 526 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:30,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or arrangements 527 00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:32,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where the United States and the Philippines 528 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: both have 529 00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:36,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: first look 530 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:38,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: preferential treatment over 531 00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:40,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any critical minerals to be 532 00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: explored or 533 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to be exported 534 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:46,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in both countries. 535 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 536 00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:50,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation has had the opportunity 537 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to look at the provisions 538 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and it looks like 539 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:56,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we are giving great preference 540 00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to how the United States 541 00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:00,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may have 542 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:02,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: first access 543 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:04,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our minerals, 544 00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:06,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: materials, 545 00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that could 546 00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:10,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tie 547 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: our opportunities 548 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even 549 00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: engagements that we could enter into freely 550 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with other states. 551 00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may I ask if the 552 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department of Development has reviewed 553 00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the possible impacts and or trade-offs 554 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this Memorandum of 555 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Understanding? 556 00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:34,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 557 00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:36,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: just to be clear, 558 00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:38,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's the Critical Minerals Agreement 559 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:40,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: between the Philippines and the US? 560 00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes. 561 00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:48,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to give details 562 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:50,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: about this 563 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:52,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: MoU, 564 00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:54,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this Memorandum of Understanding, 565 00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:56,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it was signed in February 4, 2026. 566 00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:58,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The signatories are 567 00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:00,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then 568 00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:02,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEN Secretary 569 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:04,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and Secretary 570 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Jacob Helberg. 571 00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:08,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, at least on the part of 572 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:10,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev, it's not really involved with 573 00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:12,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this 574 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:14,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: proposed MoU. 575 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The question, 576 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 577 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that this representation is posing, 578 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: whether the Department has 579 00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: had the opportunity to review 580 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the possible impacts and trade-offs 581 00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from this agreement in terms 582 00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:30,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of Philippine development. 583 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:32,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Because as it stands, 584 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it's this 585 00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:36,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representation's analysis that it will 586 00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:38,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: benefit 587 00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:40,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the development of the United 588 00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: States in how 589 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:44,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it can have a grasp 590 00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:46,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on critical minerals, 591 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its processing, 592 00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:50,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its manufacture of different 593 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: materials relating 594 00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to it across the 595 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:56,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: world. How will that impact Philippine 596 00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development, Madam Speaker, good sponsor? 597 00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:00,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Thank you, 598 00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Given 599 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:04,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that it's only a Memorandum of Understanding, 600 00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:06,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this particular 601 00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:08,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: MoU, DepDev 602 00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:10,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: has yet to review 603 00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:12,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the effects 604 00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:14,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of it. 605 00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 606 00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation has noticed 607 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that just last month, 608 00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Office of the President, 609 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Malacanang, signed 610 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Executive Order No. 611 00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 122, which 612 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: creates a critical minerals 613 00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: framework never before seen 614 00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in our jurisdiction. 615 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:36,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But just after 616 00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:38,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: there was a 617 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: signing this year of 618 00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a critical minerals agreement with the United States, 619 00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:44,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we're now lining up 620 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: essentially 621 00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where we can mine these critical minerals, 622 00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:50,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: what processes are going to be 623 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: involved, who are going to be our partners, 624 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: etc. It seems like, 625 00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:56,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 626 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that this 627 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:00,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: EO 122 is triggered 628 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:02,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by the attention we're putting 629 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: into, and of course, by 630 00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:06,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the commitment 631 00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or understanding we have with the United 632 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:10,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: States on critical 633 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: minerals. So this surely 634 00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: has to have impact on Philippine development. 635 00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Has the DepDev not 636 00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: provided any 637 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: input in the creation 638 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of EO 122? 639 00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:26,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, 640 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: distinguished colleague. As of 641 00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:30,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: today, the DepDev has not 642 00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:32,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yet conducted an assessment 643 00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or review with regards to 644 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:36,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: EO 122. 645 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, if it would be 646 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:40,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: possible, 647 00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation would like the 648 00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:44,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department to look at EO 122 649 00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:46,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and 650 00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of course, the impacts 651 00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:50,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this understanding 652 00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the subsequent 653 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: action 654 00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:56,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by our Executive 655 00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department that will 656 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:00,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be followed by 657 00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:02,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: different agencies to be 658 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:04,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: instructed, directed to 659 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: fall in line with the critical minerals 660 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: framework because 661 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I have heard in a separate 662 00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: budget discussion on 663 00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the DNR that there are 664 00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: many representatives here that 665 00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: abhor mining in 666 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: their districts. But 667 00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if EO 122 668 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: identifies 669 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: some, if I'm not mistaken, 670 00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:30,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: either 90,000 or 900,000 671 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:32,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hectares of 672 00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: land that can 673 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:36,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be the subject of 674 00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:38,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mining application 675 00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:40,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: permits because 676 00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:42,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they may contain critical minerals, 677 00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:44,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that will have 678 00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:46,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: insurmountable impacts on our 679 00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development, whether that be 680 00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:50,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regional or 681 00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at a national scale. 682 00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So the Department ought to 683 00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:56,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not only be 684 00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:58,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: looped in in these discussions 685 00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:00,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but even on top of it. 686 00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:02,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So as to ensure that 687 00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:04,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any development has to happen 688 00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:06,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the 689 00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not at the 690 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:10,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the Philippines, 691 00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the Filipino people and not 692 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the behest or for 693 00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a foreign state. 694 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 695 00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any report or 696 00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of their findings would be appreciated 697 00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that can be 698 00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: submitted alongside our 699 00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: requested one on 700 00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:30,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Philippine Development Plan 701 00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:32,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statements 702 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on education. Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 703 00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:36,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, thank you Madam Speaker. 704 00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:38,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: You have the assurance 705 00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:40,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable Co of 706 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:42,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Secretary Balisakan and the whole 707 00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev family that once the 708 00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:46,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev is looped in into 709 00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:48,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the implementation of EO 710 00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:50,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 122, it will look 711 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:52,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: into 712 00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:54,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: all of these concerns 713 00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:56,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but as of now 714 00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:58,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DepDev has not been looped in. 715 00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:00,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maybe as a final manifestation 716 00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 717 00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:04,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation finds it absurd that the 718 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department of Development is 719 00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not looped in or 720 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:10,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: even on top of this matter. 721 00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In fact, as it stands 722 00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:14,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation is concerned 723 00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:16,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are we secretly selling off 724 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:18,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: our mineral resources to the United States 725 00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:20,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: without our knowledge? 726 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:22,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this the framework that 727 00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:24,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the United States is entering into 728 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:26,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that different countries 729 00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are also being involved in 730 00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:30,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at this rate? So 731 00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:32,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any feedback from the Department 732 00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:34,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would be greatly appreciated Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 733 00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That is all. 734 00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:38,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you Madam Speaker. 735 00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:46,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That is all Madam Speaker. 736 00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:48,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I yield to the floor. Thank you. 737 00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:50,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Majority Leader, 738 00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:52,700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker. 739 00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:54,700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we recognize 740 00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:56,700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Representative Iris Marie 741 00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:58,700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Demesa Montes of the 4K 742 00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:00,700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Partylist for her interpolation. 743 00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:02,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Iris Marie 744 00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:04,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Demesa Montes of 4K Partylist 745 00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:06,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is now recognized for her interpolation. 746 00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:08,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you Madam Speaker. 747 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:10,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: My questions 748 00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:12,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: will, my first 749 00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:14,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: question is 750 00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for the DBM. 751 00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:18,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: The proposed health 752 00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:20,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: allocation is lower 753 00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:22,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: than 95.7 billion 754 00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:24,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: despite continuing 755 00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:26,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: obligations under 756 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:28,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: RA 11223. 757 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:30,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What explains this 758 00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: decline, what criteria guided 759 00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:34,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: it, and which programs and 760 00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: services were reduced? 761 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 762 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: A couple of factors. 763 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: One is the utilization of the HFEP, particularly in 2026. 764 00:45:33,780 --> 00:45:38,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So for fiscal year 2027, we reverted back to NEP level. 765 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Second, there is a reduction to the MYFIP. 766 00:45:43,820 --> 00:45:45,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Again, back to the NEP level. 767 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Also, there is the factor of the one-time return of the 60 billion of PhilHealth funds, 768 00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:54,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which we cannot be sustained for the coming year. 769 00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:56,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. 770 00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:01,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May I, can you please repeat the one about PhilHealth? 771 00:46:02,380 --> 00:46:04,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Which one cannot be sustained? 772 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Oh yes, this pertains to the Supreme Court decision, Madam Speaker. 773 00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:14,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So there is a one-time return of 60 billion. 774 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay, thank you, thank you, good sponsor, Madam Speaker. 775 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:25,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How much of the reduction represents genuine deficiency savings, if at all? 776 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And how much? 777 00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:29,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: It simply means less government provision for health services. 778 00:46:45,820 --> 00:46:53,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, really the reduction would not be about the efficiency rate. 779 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's really about the low absorptive capacity and the delays. 780 00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:57,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And the implementation. 781 00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 782 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker. 783 00:47:04,780 --> 00:47:11,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kapansin din po, bumaba ang alokasyon ng PhilHealth mula sa 129 billion ngayong taon 784 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:18,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: tungo sa 74 billion para sa 2027 o bawas ng 55 billion. 785 00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:21,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Bakit po kaya ito binawasan? 786 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:26,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Gayong dapat lumalawak ang binipisyo at mas mabilis natin na, 787 00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:30,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na aabot ang mga adhikain ng universal health care. 788 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:41,440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At kasama po ba doon sa 95.7 billion na binaba, itong 55 billion na binaba sa pondo ng PhilHealth? 789 00:47:42,580 --> 00:47:46,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 790 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, pertaining to what we mentioned, 791 00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:56,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there was a 60 billion one-time return for PhilHealth Funds. 792 00:47:56,820 --> 00:48:03,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, if you're accounting for that, actually, the 129 billion actually was just 69 billion. 793 00:48:05,060 --> 00:48:09,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Actually, nadagdagan pa po by 5 billion for this year, PhilHealth. 794 00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:11,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. 795 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker. 796 00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:19,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dahil ang UHC ay nakabatay po sa progressive realization, 797 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: aling targets ang maaantala o hindi matutupad dahil sa nabawas na po, 798 00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:32,060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa pondo lalo sa primary care, outpatient services at catastrophic services. 799 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Actually, Madam Speaker, 800 00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:45,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: pag nagdagdagan po, kasi kung natanggal po yung 60 billion, 801 00:48:46,420 --> 00:48:48,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: actually, dagdagan pa po ng 5 billion. So, actually, wala po nabawas. 802 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sige po. Kung atin pong igigiet and we follow that line of argument, 803 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung 60 billion po kasing binalik, 804 00:48:56,820 --> 00:48:58,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: meron naman po talaga ng PhilHealth. 805 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:02,660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ibig sabihin, kung yan po ang argumento natin, 806 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:10,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at this level, hindi pa rin nagbabago ang ibinibigay nating pondo para sa PhilHealth. 807 00:49:10,420 --> 00:49:18,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, meaning, sa 65 billion dati na ibinigay at ngayon ay nagkakahalagan ng 74 billion 808 00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:23,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na kiniklaim po natin na nagdagdag pa ng 5 billion. Tama po? 809 00:49:24,940 --> 00:49:26,720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ayon po sa Section 37. 810 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:33,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang RA 11223, malinaw na anim ang pinagkukuhanan ng pondo ng PhilHealth. 811 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:41,040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nandiyan dyan po yung sin tax revenues, yung PAGCOR share, yung PCSO share, 812 00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:45,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung premium contributions, yung galing sa DOH appropriations, 813 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:50,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at national government subsidy sa GAA. 814 00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, anim po na items. 815 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Para sa 2027, magkano? 816 00:49:56,820 --> 00:50:01,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 74 billion, paano po natin maibibreak down itong, 817 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:04,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: except of course, the premium contributions of members. 818 00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:11,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ano po ang mag-a-account sa 74 billion na ito? 819 00:50:11,260 --> 00:50:15,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How much is from the sin tax, from the PAGCOR, from the PCSO? 820 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, what does the 74 billion po represent? 821 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito. 822 00:50:26,820 --> 00:50:32,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 823 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 55 billion will come from national government subsidies. 824 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 19 billion will come from a share of income from PAGCOR and PCSO. 825 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that is the 74. 826 00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:46,060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 55 billion will come from? 827 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: National government subsidy. 828 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: National government. So, saan po yung sin tax? 829 00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:53,780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Where is sin tax? Wala pong alokasyon dito ang sin tax? 830 00:50:56,820 --> 00:51:05,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Subsidy po ito, because this is the first time I'm hearing that the government is going to give a 55 billion subsidy to PhilHealth. 831 00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:12,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because normally, in the past years, ang pinagagalingan po ng pondo ng PhilHealth ay sin tax lamang. 832 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. A point of clarification from the DBM. 833 00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:18,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It is, the 55 billion is coming from the sin tax. 834 00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:19,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sin tax. 835 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 836 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:26,680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, 55 billion sin tax, 19 billion from PCSO and PAGCOR. 837 00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:27,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: PAGCOR, is that correct? 838 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:28,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 839 00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:34,660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Itong 19 billion po ng PAGCOR, ano po ang nirepresent nito? 840 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:50,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Siguro, tanungin ko na lamang po, simula noong 2022, magkano na po ang naibigay ng National Treasury sa PhilHealth mula sa share ng PAGCOR and PCSO? 841 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi lumalabas po sa talaan. 842 00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:56,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker. 843 00:51:56,820 --> 00:51:57,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I'm good sponsor. 844 00:51:57,580 --> 00:52:08,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Remember, last year, I took the floor and alam po ni Chair yun, nagkwenta po tayo kung magkano po ang utang ng gobyerno sa PhilHealth. 845 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:19,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At lumabas po doon sa aming tala na mahigit 200 milyon ang pagkukulang ng gobyerno sa PhilHealth. 846 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:26,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasama na po dyan yung mga arrears sa sin tax, PAGCOR and PCSO. 847 00:52:26,820 --> 00:52:36,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa talaan po ng PhilHealth ngayon, lumalabas na ang pagkukulang daw po, ang arrears daw po, ay 241 billion. 848 00:52:37,820 --> 00:52:47,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Does DBM confirm the figure? Is that also your figure? That the arrears are more or less 241 billion? 849 00:52:56,820 --> 00:52:59,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 850 00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:08,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, the figure of the DBM is, the arrears would only be at 62 billion. 851 00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:13,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 756,224,000. 852 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:20,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, dito po ibabawas yung 19 billion from the share. 853 00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:26,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I am surprised at the figure kasi last year nang nagkwentahan po kami sa floor, 854 00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:33,140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: galing mismo po sa figure ng DOF and DBM, nasa 200 plus billion. 855 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:39,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Wala naman pong naidadagdag na pondo ang DBM, bakit po 62 billion na lang ito? 856 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:47,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nagbayad po ba or nagbigay po ba ng supplemental or additional funding ang DBM nang hindi nalalaman? 857 00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:53,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Para mabawasan ng ganito kalaking halaga yung arrears nila dapat, supposedly? 858 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 859 00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:04,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The 62 billion in arrears are for the PAGCOR and PCSO. 860 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:18,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, for the sin taxes, the updated figure would be 143,878,444,000. 861 00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:23,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 862 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:30,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And can I just please request an official list from the DBM of the arrears 863 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:37,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and to be broken down sa mga specific items po na kailangan nilang ibigay. 864 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung arrears from the sin tax remittances, PAGCOR and PCSO share, 865 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:53,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and in fact, meron dapat nga po silang babayaran na may legacy receivable po dapat ang PhilHealth sa kanila. 866 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung mga premium subsidy arrears from 2016 and prior. 867 00:54:58,180 --> 00:55:08,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: But anyway, gusto ko lamang pong malaman talaga, i-reconcile yung figure kung magkano po talaga ang kakulangan ng DBM 868 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:15,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: mula sa sin tax share, sa PAGCOR, sa PCSO, at yung kabuoang total po nito. 869 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We will submit, Madam Speaker. 870 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:20,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yes. 871 00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:23,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, it is established at alam naman po natin. 872 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:29,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaya lahat, hindi din po ipinagkakaila na may kakulangan po talaga, ano? 873 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang gusto ko pong itanong na susunod, yung kakulangan na pondo po ito, 874 00:55:33,980 --> 00:55:39,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kasi may mga halimbawa po in the past, ang collection sa sin tax sabihin nyo po ay, 875 00:55:39,620 --> 00:55:44,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I'm not sure of the complete figure, but I would just like to establish that 876 00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:49,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung ibinibigay po ng DBM falls short sa tamang collection. 877 00:55:49,340 --> 00:55:50,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, kaya may arrears tayo. 878 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ito po bang mga perang itong hindi na ibibigay? 879 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nasaan na po ba ito? 880 00:55:55,860 --> 00:55:58,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nagamit na po ba ito o nasa general fund? 881 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 882 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:40,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: At least for the earmarked revenues, yes, these are earmarked for the UHC. 883 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:50,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, there isn't a mechanism in place where we can actually account for the cash that comes in for the earmarked revenue. 884 00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:51,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, sa batas, 885 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: earmarked revenue po talaga siya, 886 00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:56,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but it can be programmed later. 887 00:56:57,180 --> 00:56:59,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay, I'll pursue that 888 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: a little bit later, good sponsor, 889 00:57:01,580 --> 00:57:02,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Chair, no? 890 00:57:03,220 --> 00:57:04,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi ang gusto ko lang 891 00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:05,680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: pong puntuhin diyan, 892 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: DBM na rin po nagsabi na 893 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: earmarked nga po yan. 894 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At yung linaw po ba ng 895 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: desisyon ng Korte Suprema 896 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nung ibinalik, pinababalik 897 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung 60 billion, hindi pa 898 00:57:18,580 --> 00:57:20,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: rin po ba yun ganun talinaw 899 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,120 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na ang sinasabi 900 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na kung earmarked yan for 901 00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:26,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: this purpose, dapat doon 902 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: lamang po siya gamitin. 903 00:57:33,860 --> 00:57:34,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 904 00:57:34,820 --> 00:57:35,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, under law, 905 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if it's earmarked for that particular purpose 906 00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:40,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then it should go 907 00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:42,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to that particular purpose, which is reinforced 908 00:57:42,380 --> 00:57:43,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by the Supreme Court. 909 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Going along that line, good sponsor, 910 00:57:47,460 --> 00:57:48,200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kasi nga po, 911 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: hindi na ibigay yung 912 00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:52,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: koleksyon halimbawa ng sin tax. 913 00:57:52,540 --> 00:57:54,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kulang. Saan po 914 00:57:54,220 --> 00:57:56,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yun napunta? Kasi dapat earmarked 915 00:57:56,460 --> 00:57:58,440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yun, sabi rin ng Supreme Court, 916 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dapat sa PhilHealth lang yun 917 00:58:00,460 --> 00:58:02,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kasi para sa UHC yun. 918 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So asan na po yun? 919 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yun po ang gusto ko po saanang malaman. 920 00:58:07,620 --> 00:58:08,660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Bakit po tayo 921 00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:10,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nagkakaroon ng malaking kakulangan 922 00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:12,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: o pagkakautang 923 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa PhilHealth kung sinusunod 924 00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:16,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: natin ang batas 925 00:58:16,180 --> 00:58:17,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na dapat napupunta yun 926 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa PhilHealth? 927 00:58:21,420 --> 00:58:22,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 928 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as per the 929 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DBM, the variance 930 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would fall 931 00:58:27,580 --> 00:58:29,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the general fund. 932 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So it's still in the general fund 933 00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:34,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as of now, as we 934 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: speak, it's in the general 935 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:36,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: fund. 936 00:58:40,060 --> 00:58:41,780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yes, Madam Speaker. Thank you. 937 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Sponsor, 938 00:58:44,420 --> 00:58:45,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, 939 00:58:47,020 --> 00:58:50,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kung wala na pong 940 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sapat na subsidy, yung 941 00:58:52,180 --> 00:58:54,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: binabanggit ko po sa inyo kanina 942 00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:56,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na anim na income streams 943 00:58:56,460 --> 00:58:57,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dapat ng PhilHealth. 944 00:58:58,340 --> 00:58:59,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Supposedly po, 945 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: meron pa doon government subsidy 946 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to represent, sana yan, 947 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: subsidian ng gobyerno 948 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: para sa mga indigent 949 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at saka para doon 950 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa mga special laws. 951 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Wala din pong naibibigay 952 00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:16,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dyan ang gobyerno. 953 00:59:16,580 --> 00:59:18,440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, kung susumahin po 954 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:18,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: natin, 955 00:59:20,380 --> 00:59:22,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kulang na po ang naibibigay 956 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: galing sa sin tax na 957 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:24,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: earmark, 958 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: specifically, nakalagay 959 00:59:28,260 --> 00:59:29,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa UHC law, 960 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: hindi rin po naibibigay ng 961 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: buo yung pag-core, 962 00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:35,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang PCSO, 963 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: hindi rin po naibibigay, 964 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: wala din pong subsidia 965 00:59:40,380 --> 00:59:42,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na galing sa gobyerno, 966 00:59:42,220 --> 00:59:44,740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for indigents and under special laws. 967 00:59:45,580 --> 00:59:45,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, 968 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: paano po natin, Madam Sponsor, 969 00:59:49,020 --> 00:59:49,780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, 970 00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:52,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: mapuprotektahan ang mga direct 971 00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:54,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: contributors who bear 972 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the burden ng gastusin 973 00:59:56,940 --> 00:59:57,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ng PhilHealth? 974 00:59:58,500 --> 00:59:59,700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Mga ordinaryong 975 00:59:59,700 --> 01:00:03,300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: manggagawa po ito 976 01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:16,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na pilit na nagbabayad ng tama at sa takdang panahon. So pagdating ng punto na magkakasakit sila, kulang ang kanilang benepisyong nakukuha. 977 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:32,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So paano po natin ito na justify at paano po natin na ipapaliwanag, maipapaliwanag ng DBM and our economic managers sa tuwing-tuwing nagbibigay po tayo ng pondo para sa universal healthcare. 978 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:33,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you Madam Speaker. Well, this representation shares the same sentiment as the Honorable Montez. As of now, there is really just a pool of social insurances. 979 01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:43,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So there isn't a differentiation as of now, the way it's treated, the fund, in terms of direct and indirect contributors. 980 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So for the purposes of this, 981 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:58,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the use of, and the programs of the PhilHealth, I think that would be better answered during the plenary deliberations of the Department of Health and the PhilHealth. 982 01:02:00,180 --> 01:02:05,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yeah, but I understand Madam Sponsor, but this is about financing. 983 01:02:06,140 --> 01:02:13,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So this is about financing, which is the responsibility of the DBM and our economic managers. 984 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: It's about prioritization. 985 01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:24,060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: It's about our, it's about honoring our commitment to the promise of universal healthcare. 986 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:37,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Well, anyway, ang gusto ko lamang pong ipunto na itong usaping ito ay hindi usapin ng fiscal space or absorptive capacity or programming decision lamang. 987 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:42,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito ay usapin ng pagsunod sa batas at sa pangako ng gobyerno sa UHC. 988 01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:45,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano matutupad ang UHC? 989 01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:49,820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung ang mismong lifeline ng PhilHealth ay napipigil. 990 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:56,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: When government appropriations for PhilHealth are withheld and arrears rich billions of pesos, 991 01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the state itself becomes a source of delayed financing. 992 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:09,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung inaasa natin na magbabayad ang mga direct contributors, ang mga miyembro, sa tamang oras at tamang halaga, 993 01:03:10,540 --> 01:03:13,040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: government should lead by example. 994 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:21,440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dapat manguna ang gobyerno, ang pamahalaan, sa maagap at buong pagpupondo ng universal healthcare. 995 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaugnay po dito, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, 996 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:43,020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: On August 4, 2006, the Philippines contracted an ADB-JICA policy loan of almost $938 million or roughly $60 billion for Build Universal Healthcare Subprogram 3. 997 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:48,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Meron 3 na po ito, so ibig sabihin may 1 and 2. 998 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:55,940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Tanong ko po sa DBM and siguro sa economic managers natin, bakit kailangan mag-utang? 999 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:02,040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano ang terms? At saan eksaktong ginamit yung mga proceeds? 1000 01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:05,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At saan po gagamitin itong sa Subprogram 3? 1001 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:12,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the loan? 1002 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mentioned by the Honorable Montez is a policy loan, so it's for budgetary support. 1003 01:04:18,660 --> 01:04:20,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Budgetary support for? 1004 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Or it finances the general fund. It goes to the general fund. 1005 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:33,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: To the general fund, but it has its use. Since it's a policy loan, alam ko pong may mga terms yun, 1006 01:04:33,180 --> 01:04:39,680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang maaari ko po bang malaman kahit ito na lang sa Subprogram 3, saan po yun gagamitin? 1007 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi ang ginamit po, universal healthcare. 1008 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:48,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So meaning, gagamitin po yan sa implementasyon ng universal healthcare. 1009 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:12,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. 1010 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:27,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ayon po sa aking pananaliksik, ang sabihin ko na lamang po na yung package 3 daw po focuses on institutionalizing reforms to ensure long-term sustainability and system-wide integration, 1011 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:35,900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: e-health infrastructure, automated claims processing, and resilient health system financing. 1012 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ito pong mga ito ay dapat napupunta sa PhilHealth. 1013 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:51,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ang tanong ko po, doon sa quinenta po natin, nagbigay po ba tayo galing sa loan na ito? 1014 01:05:51,100 --> 01:06:00,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi ang mga quinenta po nating nakaraan galing lang sa arrears ng sin tax, wala pa nga pong kasama ang PAGCOR at PCSO. 1015 01:06:00,820 --> 01:06:07,240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ngayon po pala, meron ding policy loan. So saan napunta po yung policy loan? 1016 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:20,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 1017 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:32,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, this particular policy loan goes to the general fund. So it's part of the general fund to fulfill the general fund requirements. 1018 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:39,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, based on practice and the commitment of the national government is that this particular policy loan, so the proceeds from there, 1019 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:46,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be attributed to programs, activities, and projects of the DOH. 1020 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Sponsor. Kaya lang naguluhan lang po ako. 1021 01:06:51,600 --> 01:07:05,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Is it a normal practice that you contract a policy loan for, say, for the universal healthcare, pero hindi din mapupunta kung saan yung dapat mo purpose na inutang yun? 1022 01:07:05,220 --> 01:07:08,580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Is that what you're telling me, Madam Sponsor? 1023 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, so 1024 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:47,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This policy loan is attributed to programs under the UHC, so not particularly just PhilHealth. 1025 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:54,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So as for the DBM, these would also include the HFEP and the MYFEP. 1026 01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:05,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So also, as for the DBM, we also have different policy loans for education, disaster management, 1027 01:08:05,020 --> 01:08:10,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and usually the practice is that, so the loan proceeds goes to the general fund, 1028 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:17,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but there's a commitment on the part of the national government that the proceeds from that loan will go to, 1029 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:23,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for example, if it's education, it would be under the different agencies under the education sector, 1030 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:29,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or disaster management, it would go to specific PAPs. 1031 01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:31,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, Madam Speaker. 1032 01:08:31,780 --> 01:08:35,260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you. Good sponsor, Madam Speaker. 1033 01:08:35,260 --> 01:08:40,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May I just request, perhaps may I just request the DBM to submit to this representative? 1034 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:45,060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Before the budget deliberations are done and over with, 1035 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:57,500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: details of the UHC loan for sub-programs 1, 2, 3. 1036 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:04,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: For sub-programs 1 and 2, this representation would like to find out how much was borrowed, 1037 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:10,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for what purpose, under what repayment terms, and which agencies were responsible, 1038 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for implementation. 1039 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: That's for sub-programs 1 and 2. 1040 01:09:16,540 --> 01:09:21,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And I would also like to find out, when are these loans due, 1041 01:09:21,660 --> 01:09:27,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and what is the projected fiscal burden on future budgets. 1042 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:35,760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Perhaps it should be with the OF, but if the DBM can already give us the figure, 1043 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: we will highly appreciate that. 1044 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And more importantly, Madam Speaker, 1045 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:49,080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I would like to request the DBM to submit the targets of sub-programs 1 and 2, 1046 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:54,220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and an assessment if, indeed, the targets have been achieved. 1047 01:09:54,220 --> 01:10:00,880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ang nakalagay po kasi doon na pinaggamitan ay gender-sensitive, 1048 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:08,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: climate-smart, and disaster-resilient improved coordination among public and private healthcare providers, 1049 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: increased number of sub-programs. 1050 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:14,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Number of primary care providers, enhanced health promotion services, 1051 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:21,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: increased health worker supply, and integrated delivery of quality health services. 1052 01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:28,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito po bang mga to na mga targets ay na-achieve, 1053 01:10:28,380 --> 01:10:34,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kung hindi man, ilang porsyento na po tayo sa pag-achieve ng targets na yan 1054 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nung pinasok ng ating gobyerno ang mga loans na ito. 1055 01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:39,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam. 1056 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:46,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the DBM will comply, particularly with the line-by-line details of sub-programs 1, 2, 1057 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and the projections for sub-programs 2. 1058 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you so much, good sponsor, Madam Speaker. 1059 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: In the end, gusto ko lang po sigurong sabihin, 1060 01:10:55,940 --> 01:11:01,620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: mahirap po kasing parang tanggapin na habang binabawasan natin 1061 01:11:01,620 --> 01:11:04,940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: or hindi natin nabibigyan ng sapat na alokasyon, 1062 01:11:05,940 --> 01:11:08,840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang pagtupad ng universal healthcare, 1063 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:15,100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ngutang pa rin po pala tayo na ginagamit ang universal healthcare, 1064 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: samantalang hindi naman natin nararamdaman yung inutang na iyon. 1065 01:11:20,620 --> 01:11:26,000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dapat po, kung mangungutang tayo kasabay ng pondong binibigay ng gobyerno, 1066 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:31,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dapat po parehong maghatid yan ng mas malawa, mas mabilis, 1067 01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:35,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at mas abot kayang serbisyong pangkalusugan. 1068 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi naman po masama. 1069 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi pong masamang. 1070 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Mangungutang tayo. 1071 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:45,980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Mangungutang tayo para mas madali po nating maiabot yung pangako ng universal healthcare. 1072 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pero sana po sa pag-utang na iyon, katulad din ng ibang utang, 1073 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:55,940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nagagamit po talaga natin sa tamang paraan at kung saan po talaga natin, 1074 01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:59,780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at kung para saan po talaga yung inutang natin. 1075 01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:07,520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At meron tayong targets at i-evaluate po natin yan kung natutupad yung mga targets na iyon. 1076 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At at the end of the period, 1077 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: naubos na po natin ng pera, 1078 01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:16,160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: masasabi natin yung inutang natin ay kapakipakinaban. 1079 01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:25,860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, let me just state again that the Supreme Court reminded us that where health begins, all freedoms stand. 1080 01:12:25,860 --> 01:12:37,140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung saan daw po nakatayo at nagsisimula ang kalusugan, doon nakatindig ang lahat ng kalayaan. 1081 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sana po isa puso natin. 1082 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito, bawat pagbalangkas natin ng budget para sa kalusugan. 1083 01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:50,780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaya naman po, ang kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa katakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan or 4K, 1084 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:57,600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ay maninindigan at patuloy na igigiip na ang universal healthcare ay hindi lamang pangako ng batas, 1085 01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:00,540 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kundi pananagutan ng gobyerno. 1086 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:07,320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung kulang ang pondo para sa UHC, kulang din ang hustisya at kalayaan ng bawat Pilipino. 1087 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:08,940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. 1088 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, good evening po sa lahat. 1089 01:13:12,740 --> 01:13:13,420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Authority Leader. 1090 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:28,280 Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Dada Ismula from Akbayan Party List to interpolate on the proposed budget. 1091 01:13:29,300 --> 01:13:32,640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Dada Ismula is now recognized for her interpolation. 1092 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:38,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu. 1093 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 1094 01:13:39,600 --> 01:14:00,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I want to focus on how the DBM ensures that syntax revenues are properly earmarked and transparently allocated para masigurong bawat Pilipino ay may libre o abot kaya at dekalidad na health services bilang karapatan natin. 1095 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:10,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: This is in continuation or in connection of what my colleague, Representative Iris Montes, have questioned earlier. 1096 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:27,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, can DBM confirm that under Republic Act No. 11223 or the Universal Health Care Act, health funding is statutory and non-discretionary? 1097 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, nakasaad. 1098 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:36,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, nasa batas at hindi basta babawasan, ihinto o ibahin ang paggagamitan. 1099 01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:39,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker. 1100 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:54,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can DBM confirm that Republic Act No. 11346 and 11467 require specific percentages of all syntaxes to go directly to health programs? 1101 01:14:54,820 --> 01:14:56,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, we confirm. 1102 01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Under Republic Act 11467. 1103 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:12,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can DBM confirm that 60% of excise taxes from alcohol, heated tobacco, and vapor products must go strictly to universal health care? 1104 01:15:13,660 --> 01:15:14,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1105 01:15:14,420 --> 01:15:29,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can DBM also confirm that under the same law, another 20% from these same taxes is legally reserved for medical assistance for indigent patients and for upgrading public hospitals? 1106 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:31,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1107 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:39,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can DBM confirm that these health funds should be automatically appropriated by law? 1108 01:15:39,060 --> 01:15:46,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, hindi pwede bawasan o i-divert ng Pangulo o ng sino man sa Executive? 1109 01:15:48,860 --> 01:15:58,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, under RA11, under the Universal Health Care Act, 1110 01:15:59,520 --> 01:15:59,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is a... 1111 01:15:59,980 --> 01:16:02,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's supposed to be earmarked. 1112 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There is no... 1113 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's not automatic. 1114 01:16:06,820 --> 01:16:10,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: But it is stated and appropriated by the law. 1115 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:15,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, hindi po siya pwedeng i-divert ng Pangulo o ng sino man Executive? 1116 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1117 01:16:19,020 --> 01:16:21,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 1118 01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:29,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Based on the DBM's budget document, or the Budget of Expenditures and Sources of Financing, or BESF, 1119 01:16:29,980 --> 01:16:46,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Table C.3, can DBM confirm that for 2026 projected tax collection from sweetened drinks reaches, or umaabot hanggang, P142.8 billion? 1120 01:16:48,580 --> 01:16:50,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Again, projected po. 1121 01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:37,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, as for the BSF, that figure is correct, Madam Speaker. 1122 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:45,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. How about from alcohol? Tama po ba 153.6 billion pesos? 1123 01:17:45,500 --> 01:18:07,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For alcohol products, for Selective Exercise Tax on Goods, for 2027, the projection actually is 136.713 billion. 1124 01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:12,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: This is under BESF po of Table C.3. 1125 01:18:13,860 --> 01:18:14,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. 1126 01:18:14,940 --> 01:18:15,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1127 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:19,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And from tobacco po, 234.7 billion. 1128 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:31,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, at least as for the BESF Table C.3, for 2027, for tobacco, the projection would be 182. 1129 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:36,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I'm sorry, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, it's for projected for 2026 po. 1130 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:38,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, for 2026. 1131 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:38,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po. 1132 01:18:39,060 --> 01:18:40,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2026, my apologies. 1133 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2026, what's programmed? 1134 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Programmed would be 164.386 billion. 1135 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:58,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In total, can DBM confirm that the government expect over 500 billion pesos in SYNTAXES for 2026? 1136 01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:12,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, higit kalahating trilyong piso ang collection natin sa SYNTAXES. 1137 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, can DBM confirm? 1138 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:14,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes po. 1139 01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:30,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, these are programmed though, Madam Speaker, though the actual projections would be better answered by the DOF. 1140 01:19:31,140 --> 01:19:41,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, what's programmed for tobacco would be 164 billion and then SSB would be 37.67. 1141 01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:42,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 67. 1142 01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:43,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 67. 1143 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: To 34.7 billion. 1144 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:47,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1145 01:19:48,140 --> 01:20:02,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that would not be under, yes, yeah, 64 plus 37 would be 201 billion. 1146 01:20:03,780 --> 01:20:05,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 64 plus 37. 1147 01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:14,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, para po mas madali sa ating kasamang sponsor, 1148 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:27,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pakitulungan na lang po DBM, i-total ninyo po 142.8 billion, 153.6 billion, at yung 234.7 billion, 1149 01:20:27,900 --> 01:20:32,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakapost po ito sa inyong page, sa inyong website. 1150 01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:35,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, matotal na sa magkano po ang total? 1151 01:20:42,800 --> 01:21:01,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, Madam Speaker, [unclear], at least for 2026, the program would be for SSB 37, and then the tobacco products would be 164. And then, sorry, what was the first item? 1152 01:21:01,900 --> 01:21:17,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ulitin ko po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. Yung projected tax collection niyo po from sweetened drinks, nagre-reach po siya ng 142.8 billion for 2026. Tama po ba? 1153 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:28,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the BSF Table C-3, Madam Speaker, it's only at P37.67 billion. 1154 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:29,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ito'y for 2026. 1155 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2026 program, Madam Speaker. 1156 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Program, Madam Speaker. 1157 01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:41,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Walang for projected po kasi projected po yung tinitignan natin. 1158 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:49,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For Table C-3, the projections for 2027. 1159 01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But the projections for 2026 are those that are programmed. 1160 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, at least for Table C-3 of the BSF. 1161 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:06,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano naman po ang sa Table C-3 pag ito'y programmed for 2027? 1162 01:22:07,620 --> 01:22:11,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For SSB, this is under C-3. 1163 01:22:11,480 --> 01:22:16,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: C-3 of the BSF, it's P39.669 billion. 1164 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:28,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And then for tobacco, it would be, for 2027, it's P182.209 billion. 1165 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ang for alcohol naman po? 1166 01:22:33,580 --> 01:22:39,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For alcohol, it would be P136.713 billion. 1167 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:40,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2027 projections. 1168 01:22:41,480 --> 01:22:43,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sumatutal na sa magkano po siya? 1169 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: P357 billion. 1170 01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:47,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: P200? 1171 01:22:48,580 --> 01:22:51,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sorry, P357 billion, Madam Speaker. 1172 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:52,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: P300. 1173 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay, P357 billion. 1174 01:22:55,780 --> 01:23:03,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po ba, base sa requirement ng syntax laws at revenues for 2026 mismo ng DBM, 1175 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:11,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: can DBM confirm that for 2027, the earmark amount for UHC, 1176 01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:16,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: should be around 300 plus billion pesos? 1177 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:29,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Or at least 60% of the 357 billion? 1178 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:54,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The basis for this, Madam Speaker, the value I'm going to share would be, based 1179 01:23:54,000 --> 01:24:05,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: on 2025 collections, it would be P310,637,447,000. 1180 01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:10,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So ibig sabihin po, ang naging basis po natin is iyong 2025, 1181 01:24:10,780 --> 01:24:10,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. 1182 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na collections po. 1183 01:24:13,380 --> 01:24:13,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? 1184 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For this figure, yes, Madam Speaker. 1185 01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:19,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngayon naman po, can DBM confirm that in the NEP, 1186 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,260 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: the allocation for the National Health Insurance Program 1187 01:24:23,260 --> 01:24:26,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: is only P74 billion? 1188 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:27,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? 1189 01:24:28,060 --> 01:24:29,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, yes, Madam Speaker. 1190 01:24:29,780 --> 01:24:32,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano ang basis ng P74 billion? 1191 01:24:32,940 --> 01:24:36,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano po ang P74 billion from the tax revenue 1192 01:24:36,980 --> 01:24:38,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: from sweetened beverages? 1193 01:24:38,940 --> 01:24:42,120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano naman ang sa alcohol products 1194 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at magkano naman ang sa tobacco products? 1195 01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:38,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for earmarked revenues for 2027, with regards to the collections from the same taxes, 1196 01:25:38,940 --> 01:25:42,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For tobacco, PhilHealth is supposed to get 1197 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:46,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: P59.495 billion. 1198 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For sugar-sweetened beverages, 1199 01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:58,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it would be P15.731 billion for 2027. 1200 01:26:00,380 --> 01:26:02,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Those are just for PhilHealth. 1201 01:26:02,500 --> 01:26:05,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: How about po yung sa alcohol products naman po? 1202 01:26:06,140 --> 01:26:06,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano? 1203 01:26:06,580 --> 01:26:08,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For alcohol, 1204 01:26:08,940 --> 01:26:09,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 1205 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is no allocation for PhilHealth. 1206 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So matotal na sa magkano po yun? 1207 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For universal healthcare, 1208 01:26:20,620 --> 01:26:27,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be P75.856 billion for 2027, 1209 01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:27,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the earmarked revenue. 1210 01:26:28,140 --> 01:26:30,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, ito yung naging basehan 1211 01:26:30,940 --> 01:26:33,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kaya nagkaroon ng P74 billion. 1212 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:33,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? 1213 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the total for the SYNTAX, for PhilHealth. 1214 01:26:50,820 --> 01:26:55,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That would be the base for the P74 billion. 1215 01:26:55,580 --> 01:26:56,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 1216 01:26:56,820 --> 01:26:59,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker, Madam sponsor. 1217 01:26:59,780 --> 01:27:01,860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Given these figures, 1218 01:27:01,860 --> 01:27:05,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: can the BM confirm that there is indeed the shortfall 1219 01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:08,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: between the mandated earmarking and the actual 1220 01:27:08,780 --> 01:27:10,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: allocations in the NEP. 1221 01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:12,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1222 01:27:13,420 --> 01:27:14,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po, 1223 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: hindi po tayo nagiging 1224 01:27:16,740 --> 01:27:18,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: compliant sa ating batas 1225 01:27:18,740 --> 01:27:20,260 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na syntax. Tama po ba? 1226 01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:37,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1227 01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:39,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 1228 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is the perennial challenge. 1229 01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:43,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Unfortunately, 1230 01:27:43,780 --> 01:27:45,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Distinguished Colleague, Honorable Ismula, 1231 01:27:46,260 --> 01:27:48,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is 1232 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a chicken-egg 1233 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:50,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: problem. 1234 01:27:52,180 --> 01:27:53,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given that 1235 01:27:53,500 --> 01:27:56,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there has to be a certification 1236 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the earmarked 1237 01:27:58,300 --> 01:28:00,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: revenues before it can 1238 01:28:00,020 --> 01:28:01,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: be allocated. So, 1239 01:28:02,420 --> 01:28:03,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: usually po nangyayari, hindi na 1240 01:28:03,980 --> 01:28:05,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: hahabol yung certification 1241 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in time for the budgeting. 1242 01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:09,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The planning of the 1243 01:28:09,540 --> 01:28:12,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: program. Kaya, nagkakaroon po 1244 01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:13,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ng perennial issue na 1245 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung dapat earmarked revenue 1246 01:28:15,820 --> 01:28:18,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for particular programs, 1247 01:28:18,340 --> 01:28:19,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: hindi lang po siya sa UHC. Actually, 1248 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: lahat po halos 1249 01:28:22,060 --> 01:28:23,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ng ganito po yung problema. 1250 01:28:24,500 --> 01:28:25,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But, rest assured, the DBM 1251 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is trying its best in terms of 1252 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: expediting the certifications 1253 01:28:30,180 --> 01:28:31,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and making sure that 1254 01:28:31,860 --> 01:28:33,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kung ano man ang 1255 01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:35,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: mga programa na kung saan 1256 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: dapat nakalaanan ng 1257 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:38,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ng pondo. 1258 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:39,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1259 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Laanan talaga nung pondo na yun. 1260 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, 1261 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: maraming salamat po. Naintindihan ko po 1262 01:28:48,020 --> 01:28:49,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ito. Pero, gusto ko po 1263 01:28:49,820 --> 01:28:51,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: malaman, sino po yung 1264 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nagkulang doon sa certification? 1265 01:29:16,970 --> 01:29:17,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1266 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:19,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: On the part of the 1267 01:29:19,460 --> 01:29:19,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DBM, 1268 01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:23,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given that the DBM 1269 01:29:23,260 --> 01:29:24,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: only relies on the certification, 1270 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:26,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the actual issuance of the certification 1271 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to that process, 1272 01:29:29,940 --> 01:29:32,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DOF would be 1273 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:32,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: better, 1274 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the better position to 1275 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: speak to that. 1276 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, the DBM has assured that 1277 01:29:39,180 --> 01:29:41,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it is in constant 1278 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: dialogue with the DOF 1279 01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:45,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to expedite the issuance 1280 01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:47,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of these certifications para po hindi na nangyayari 1281 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:48,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ito kada taon. 1282 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:50,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 1283 01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 1284 01:29:53,660 --> 01:29:55,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Actually, as I understand, 1285 01:29:55,940 --> 01:29:57,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: hindi lamang para sa taong ito 1286 01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nangyayari yung ganitong shortfall. 1287 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:25,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Actually last year ganoon din po. So sana maayos po natin ito kung ano man yung certification na yan nakulang, ano man po yung, or kung sino man yung nagkulang dyan sa certification, sana po mahabol natin dahil pinag-uusapan po natin ang health line ng ating bansa, ang health line ng ating mga kababayan. 1288 01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:40,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi po dapat magiging sagot natin sa health line kung sakali man umabot na yung health line ng isang kababayan natin, ay isasagot natin, pasensya na dahil nagkulang tayo sa certification. 1289 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:54,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: With that, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, it's become very obvious that the DBM has not complied with the UHC law and syntax laws in the 2027 budget. 1290 01:30:54,940 --> 01:31:07,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Will DBM commit to submitting a complete accounting to this committee showing all syntax collections versus actual health allocations from 2020 to present? 1291 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the department will comply. 1292 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:23,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. At para sa huling katanungan ko po, Madam Sponsor, when Congress corrects this budget and restores the missing billions back to healthcare, 1293 01:31:23,220 --> 01:31:24,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: will DBM commit? 1294 01:31:24,940 --> 01:31:29,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Will DBM commit to releasing and executing those funds without delay? 1295 01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:44,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As authorized by the GAA, the DBM will comply, Madam Speaker. 1296 01:31:45,820 --> 01:31:53,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, linggo-linggo nakikita natin sa social media ang mga hinain ng mga kababayan natin. 1297 01:31:53,580 --> 01:31:58,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nadudurog po ang puso ko makita kapag nako-confine ang ating mga kababayan, 1298 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:03,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: konting-konti lang ang nako-cover ng PhilHealth sa kanilang final bill. 1299 01:32:04,300 --> 01:32:13,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang nangyayari, kukuha sila sa kanilang savings, uutang sila, or iikot sila sa mga ahensya para magmakaawa para sa tulong. 1300 01:32:13,900 --> 01:32:22,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang katotohanan pala, may pondo naman palang pwede ilaan para lakihan ang coverage ng PhilHealth kada pasyente, 1301 01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:25,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nang hindi kailangan lakihan ang contribution ng members. 1302 01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:31,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi na kailangang magtiis, mangutang, or manlimos ng mga kababayan natin. 1303 01:32:32,260 --> 01:32:37,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: The government just has to follow the law and fully fund the universal healthcare. 1304 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:48,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya po, I express my strong commitment to address this issue at umaasa ako na kasama ang aking mga colleagues in the 20th Congress. 1305 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mapapalakas natin ang legislation at oversight. 1306 01:32:52,020 --> 01:33:03,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Para masiguro na ang syntax revenues ay maayos at tapat na nilalaan para wala ng Pilipinong magihirap pa para lang gumaling sa sakit. 1307 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:15,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, may isisingit na lamang po akong katanungan mula sa aking colleague na si Senior Deputy Minority Laila Delima. 1308 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Apat lang po isisingit ko dahil may time pa naman ako. 1309 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:35,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yung higher than program disbursements po ba mula fiscal year of 2022 hanggang fiscal year of 2025 ay dahil sa releases galing sa unprogrammed appropriations. 1310 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:43,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po nito ay mas mataas ang aktual na paggasta kumpara sa orihinal na nakaprogram sa budget. 1311 01:33:44,140 --> 01:33:44,720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? 1312 01:33:50,640 --> 01:34:02,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, this is one factor. Madam Speaker, another factor would be continuing appropriation. 1313 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:04,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 1314 01:34:04,220 --> 01:34:21,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa 2025 Fiscal Risk Statement ng DBCC, flagged ang UA bilang major risk, dagdag na P118B o 0.66 percentage points sa deficit-to-GDP ratio. 1315 01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:29,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pareho na rin ang lumalabas sa independent computation na ginawa ng opisina ni Representative Delima. 1316 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:41,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Matagal na pong sinasabi na deficit neutral ang UA, pero mismong risk statement ng DBCC nagsasabing deficit inducing ito. 1317 01:34:42,220 --> 01:34:45,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano ang paliwanag sa contradictions na ito? 1318 01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:05,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, this is driven mostly by loan proceeds disbursement. 1319 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:10,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the DBM, ito po daw yung nalilipat from program to unprogram. 1320 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:12,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po. 1321 01:35:12,500 --> 01:35:20,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung mag-materialize ang 0.66% points, ano ang epekto nito sa debt? 1322 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: GDP path para sa 2027 to 2028. 1323 01:36:16,300 --> 01:36:18,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the estimates of the DBM, Madam Speaker, 1324 01:36:18,900 --> 01:36:30,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For every 30 billion in excess disbursement, it would add 0.1 percentage point in the debt-to-GDP ratio. 1325 01:36:31,580 --> 01:36:33,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Medyo malaki po 'yun kung suma total. 1326 01:36:34,300 --> 01:36:41,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, since the DBCC itself flagged the UA as major financial risk, 1327 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:55,380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: how much in total was released from it from fiscal year of 2022 to fiscal year of 2025 annual figures broken by expense class and implementing agency? 1328 01:36:55,380 --> 01:37:11,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung sakali po hindi po available right now, this representation and Representative Laila Delima would be very much willing to receive that copy after this budget. 1329 01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:15,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Or probably tomorrow po kung ma-provide nila. 1330 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:15,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1331 01:37:17,380 --> 01:37:29,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And in connection to that, idadagdag po na rin po ito, how much in total was released from the unprogrammed appropriations from fiscal year of 2022 to 2025? 1332 01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:39,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And can the DBM provide the annual figures and the detailed list of programs, activities, and projects funded by the UA? 1333 01:37:40,340 --> 01:37:40,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1334 01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:48,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the DBM will comply with regards to this data from 2022 to 2025. 1335 01:37:49,580 --> 01:37:51,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's quite an extensive list. 1336 01:37:52,560 --> 01:38:00,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But the DBM also mentioned that there were documents submitted to the Committee on Appropriations. 1337 01:38:01,140 --> 01:38:02,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 1338 01:38:02,420 --> 01:38:06,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can Representative Delima in this representation receive the copy as well? 1339 01:38:08,180 --> 01:38:09,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1340 01:38:09,220 --> 01:38:10,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 1341 01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:28,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, para po sa huling katanungan, can the DBM commit to submit a report through this Committee showing total UA releases against the deficit increases versus original and adjusted programs since fiscal year of 2022? 1342 01:38:33,780 --> 01:38:36,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the Department will comply, Madam Speaker. 1343 01:38:36,740 --> 01:38:37,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 1344 01:38:37,620 --> 01:38:39,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: If the DBM can commit, I ask that... 1345 01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:45,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: This representation and the Office of Representative Delima be provided with a copy. 1346 01:38:46,060 --> 01:38:47,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 1347 01:38:47,860 --> 01:38:49,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Sponsor. 1348 01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:51,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Thank you, DBM family. 1349 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:52,960 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 1350 01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:02,360 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we recognize the Honorable Edgar Erize of the 2nd District of Caloocan for his interpellation. 1351 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:08,660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Edgar Erize from the 2nd District of Caloocan City is now recognized for his interpellation. 1352 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:10,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you. 1353 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Madam Speaker, thank you, Madam Chair. 1354 01:39:15,460 --> 01:39:21,440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I'll be going directly to the questions para po mapadali na ang ating pagtulog. 1355 01:39:24,940 --> 01:39:37,420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Madam Speaker, napakalaki po ng ating mga inuutang at gusto ko pong tanungin sa DEP-DEB kung yung mga ginagastos nating inuutang 1356 01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay lumilikha ba ng pangmatagalang 1357 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:41,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pag-unlad? 1358 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:49,880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: O pinapondohan lang natin ang tulong o ayuda na kailangan na naman natin ulitin sa susunod na taon. 1359 01:40:01,060 --> 01:40:07,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, Madam Speaker, Honorable Erize, on the part of DEP-DEB, it's only... 1360 01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:08,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's only... 1361 01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:15,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It formulates policies, it gives recommendations, and it's... 1362 01:40:15,700 --> 01:40:20,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Like the DEP-DEB is in charge of the updating and the crafting of the Philippine Development Plan. 1363 01:40:22,060 --> 01:40:30,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to that, that's the only purview in which the DEP-DEB can manage these types of investments, 1364 01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:36,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but it doesn't really have power over the loans contracted. 1365 01:40:37,580 --> 01:40:38,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi po ba? 1366 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:47,800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Dapat yung pag-gastos natin ng national budget ay aligned with the Philippine Development Plan. 1367 01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:55,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, in terms of financing strategic investments, it will be... 1368 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:06,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, the financing, the actual financing of the strategic investments in human capital development in all of the sectors 1369 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be part of the Philippine Development Plan. 1370 01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:16,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to the revenue program for those investments, that would not fall under the DEP-DEB's purview. 1371 01:41:17,060 --> 01:41:29,240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Wala po ba silang pag-aaral kung yung pong ginagastos ng pamahalaan, yung investment sa mga developmental projects 1372 01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:37,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at yung investment sa mga ayuda, kung ano ang epekto nito sa pagpapaunlad ng bansa, wala silang pag-aaral? 1373 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:27,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, on the part of DepDev, particularly the 1374 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: PIDS, there are 1375 01:42:29,780 --> 01:42:31,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: studies with regards to 1376 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:33,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the effects of 1377 01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like our social programs 1378 01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:37,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for poverty 1379 01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:39,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: alleviation and national 1380 01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:41,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: development as a whole. But 1381 01:42:41,540 --> 01:42:43,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in terms of fiscal 1382 01:42:43,460 --> 01:42:45,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: sustainability and whatnot, 1383 01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we are just checking 1384 01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:48,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which particular 1385 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: studies that we have on file 1386 01:42:51,300 --> 01:42:52,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as of now. Madam Speaker. 1387 01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ang growth strategy 1388 01:42:55,380 --> 01:42:56,420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa likod ng proposed 1389 01:42:56,420 --> 01:42:58,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2027 National Budget? 1390 01:42:59,020 --> 01:43:00,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Para sa malalaking bagong gasusin, may 1391 01:43:00,980 --> 01:43:03,200 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: projection ba ang DepDev kung ilang trabaho 1392 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang malilika at gano'n tataas 1393 01:43:05,260 --> 01:43:05,900 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang productivity? 1394 01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:08,080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At output sa loob ng isa, tatlo, at limang 1395 01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:09,480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: taon? Kung wala pa, 1396 01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:11,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung wala, paano natin masasabing 1397 01:43:11,980 --> 01:43:14,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: developmental ang spending 1398 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng 2027 National Budget? 1399 01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: At least on the part of 1400 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev, Madam Speaker, 1401 01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:37,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given the 1402 01:43:37,860 --> 01:43:40,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: external shocks that we've 1403 01:43:40,260 --> 01:43:41,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: experienced which have 1404 01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:44,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: impacted particular sectors, 1405 01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:47,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in terms of informing 1406 01:43:47,620 --> 01:43:50,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the crafting 1407 01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:51,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the budget, 1408 01:43:51,940 --> 01:43:53,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there are 1409 01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:56,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: short-term and short-to-medium-term 1410 01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:57,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: measures that the DepDev has 1411 01:43:57,900 --> 01:44:00,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ascertained, 1412 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particularly to 1413 01:44:02,220 --> 01:44:04,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: target support to vulnerable sectors. 1414 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So this is, 1415 01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:08,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if I can just enumerate, 1416 01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:10,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would that be okay to the 1417 01:44:10,100 --> 01:44:12,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable Erice? 1418 01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:17,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ba ang epekto, hindi lang naman po siguro 1419 01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:19,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung external factors? 1420 01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:22,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi po ba pinag-aralan yung tungkol po sa 1421 01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:24,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: delayed public investment, 1422 01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:26,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: paghina ng private investment, at 1423 01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:30,100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: epekto ng mga questionable infrastructure projects? 1424 01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:39,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: We cannot always blame 1425 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the external factors, samantalang 1426 01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung mga kalapit 1427 01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bansa natin ay naka-recover na. 1428 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tayo na lang hindi. 1429 01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At pababa pa ng pababa 1430 01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung GDP natin. 1431 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, thank you. Yes, 1432 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of course, Madam Speaker, 1433 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: distinguished colleague. 1434 01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For at least 1435 01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:00,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: one of the 1436 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the considerations at the depth of use 1437 01:45:02,260 --> 01:45:04,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to informing the budget 1438 01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: graphing 1439 01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:08,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be the fiscal multipliers. 1440 01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:09,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, 1441 01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there are 1442 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:13,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: different areas here 1443 01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:16,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if I am allowed to enumerate. 1444 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:17,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, public administration, 1445 01:45:19,820 --> 01:45:20,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so the 1446 01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: gross value add, 1447 01:45:22,340 --> 01:45:23,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the JVA multiplier, 1448 01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:25,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is estimated at 2.03. 1449 01:45:26,740 --> 01:45:27,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Agriculture 1450 01:45:27,340 --> 01:45:29,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be 1451 01:45:29,100 --> 01:45:33,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 1.24. 1452 01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:36,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Public education, 1453 01:45:37,220 --> 01:45:39,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the JVA multiplier would be at 2.33. 1454 01:45:41,460 --> 01:45:43,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Public health would be 1455 01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:44,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 1.32. 1456 01:45:46,820 --> 01:45:47,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, so 1457 01:45:47,500 --> 01:45:48,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: these are different 1458 01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:50,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: areas, 1459 01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:52,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: different industries. 1460 01:45:52,820 --> 01:45:54,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, there is also 1461 01:45:54,540 --> 01:45:56,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I guess a side-by-side 1462 01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:58,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: share on the NEP. 1463 01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, if you can furnish this copy 1464 01:46:00,220 --> 01:46:01,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to the Honorable Erice, 1465 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so we can look at it. 1466 01:46:03,780 --> 01:46:06,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a long list, and I don't want to 1467 01:46:06,060 --> 01:46:08,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: take up the time. 1468 01:46:08,500 --> 01:46:10,820 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ang input, Madam Chair? 1469 01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:13,220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Madam Speaker, 1470 01:46:14,540 --> 01:46:16,020 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng DEP-DEB 1471 01:46:16,020 --> 01:46:18,400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dun sa paghahanay 1472 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,620 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga paggastot. 1473 01:46:20,620 --> 01:46:21,240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: For example, 1474 01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in capital outlay, 1475 01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: malaki po yung 1476 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:27,620 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga lump sum appropriations, 1477 01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:29,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ayuda, 1478 01:46:30,180 --> 01:46:30,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: LGSF, 1479 01:46:31,220 --> 01:46:32,660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pero binawasan yung 1480 01:46:32,660 --> 01:46:35,860 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa human capital 1481 01:46:35,860 --> 01:46:36,800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: like education 1482 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and health 1483 01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:40,240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and agriculture. 1484 01:46:41,220 --> 01:46:43,000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May participation po ba 1485 01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:43,980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang DEP-DEB? 1486 01:46:44,820 --> 01:46:44,840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: o 1487 01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,140 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hindi ba dapat 1488 01:46:48,140 --> 01:46:50,080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang DEP-DEB yung pinaka 1489 01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nagbibigay 1490 01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:53,580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng payo 1491 01:46:53,580 --> 01:46:55,380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa 1492 01:46:55,380 --> 01:46:58,260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: DBCC? 1493 01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kung ano yung mga tamang 1494 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dapat pagkagastusan 1495 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng pamala na tama para sa 1496 01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mas permanenteng pagunlad 1497 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng ating bansa? 1498 01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1499 01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DEP-DEB is part of 1500 01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Economic Development Council 1501 01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that advises 1502 01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: policies on economic development. 1503 01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, these are periodic 1504 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: meetings 1505 01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that report to the Office of the President. 1506 01:47:27,180 --> 01:47:29,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Besides that, 1507 01:47:29,180 --> 01:47:31,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DEP-DEB is also part of the 1508 01:47:31,180 --> 01:47:33,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DBCC. 1509 01:47:33,180 --> 01:47:35,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, I think it's constant. 1510 01:47:35,180 --> 01:47:37,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano pong input ng DEP-DEB? Tama ba yung 1511 01:47:37,180 --> 01:47:39,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ginawa ng 1512 01:47:39,180 --> 01:47:41,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: DBCC na bawasan yung 1513 01:47:41,180 --> 01:47:43,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for human capital like education, 1514 01:47:43,180 --> 01:47:45,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: health, and agriculture, tapos 1515 01:47:45,180 --> 01:47:47,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dagdagan, malakihin 1516 01:47:47,180 --> 01:47:49,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung sa ayuda 1517 01:47:49,180 --> 01:47:51,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa mga lump sum appropriations 1518 01:47:51,180 --> 01:47:53,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for discretionary 1519 01:47:53,180 --> 01:47:55,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: funds? 1520 01:47:55,180 --> 01:47:57,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tama po ba yun? Ito ba yung may 1521 01:47:57,180 --> 01:47:59,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: economic impact na mas malaki 1522 01:47:59,180 --> 01:48:01,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kaysa sa human capital? 1523 01:48:01,180 --> 01:48:03,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yung mga ganitong uri ng 1524 01:48:03,180 --> 01:48:05,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: paggastos? 1525 01:48:13,180 --> 01:48:15,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1526 01:48:15,180 --> 01:48:17,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 1527 01:48:17,180 --> 01:48:19,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as for the DEP-DEB, 1528 01:48:19,180 --> 01:48:21,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in terms 1529 01:48:21,180 --> 01:48:23,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the decreases, just speaking to the 1530 01:48:23,180 --> 01:48:25,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: decreases, there 1531 01:48:25,180 --> 01:48:27,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: was in certain sectors 1532 01:48:27,180 --> 01:48:29,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in particular areas, a one-off 1533 01:48:29,180 --> 01:48:31,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: increase 1534 01:48:31,180 --> 01:48:33,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: because of what 1535 01:48:33,180 --> 01:48:35,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: happened in the last budget 1536 01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:37,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: deliberation. 1537 01:48:37,180 --> 01:48:39,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that 1538 01:48:39,180 --> 01:48:41,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least on the part of DEP-DEB, that's one of the 1539 01:48:41,180 --> 01:48:43,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: reasons why there has been a nominal decrease 1540 01:48:43,180 --> 01:48:45,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in some 1541 01:48:45,180 --> 01:48:47,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like the nominal value of 1542 01:48:47,180 --> 01:48:49,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particular budget proposals 1543 01:48:49,180 --> 01:48:51,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for particular sectors. 1544 01:48:51,180 --> 01:48:53,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you Madam 1545 01:48:53,180 --> 01:48:55,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Speaker, Madam Chair. Pero 1546 01:48:55,180 --> 01:48:57,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bakit napakalaking 1547 01:48:57,180 --> 01:48:59,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng pondo para sa mga ayuda 1548 01:48:59,180 --> 01:49:01,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa LGSF, samantalang 1549 01:49:01,180 --> 01:49:03,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung utilization rate naman nila 1550 01:49:03,180 --> 01:49:05,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: noong 2025, 1551 01:49:05,180 --> 01:49:07,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2026 ay hindi 1552 01:49:07,180 --> 01:49:09,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pa ganap at napakababa? 1553 01:49:09,180 --> 01:49:11,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit yun ang dinadagdagan? 1554 01:49:11,180 --> 01:49:13,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit yung 1555 01:49:13,180 --> 01:49:15,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pondo para sa 1556 01:49:15,180 --> 01:49:17,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: edukasyon, para sa health? 1557 01:49:17,180 --> 01:49:19,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit yun ang binabawasan? 1558 01:49:21,180 --> 01:49:23,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi ko po masyadong maunawaan 1559 01:49:23,180 --> 01:49:25,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na, 1560 01:49:25,180 --> 01:49:27,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: malaki pa ang pondo. Sabi nga 1561 01:49:27,180 --> 01:49:29,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kanina, 58% lang 1562 01:49:29,180 --> 01:49:31,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung utilization rate ng 1563 01:49:31,180 --> 01:49:33,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: LGSF. 1564 01:49:33,180 --> 01:49:35,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Napakalaki po ng mga pondo 1565 01:49:35,180 --> 01:49:37,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa 1566 01:49:37,180 --> 01:49:39,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: IEX, 1567 01:49:39,180 --> 01:49:41,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: TUPAD na hindi pa naman naungubos. 1568 01:49:41,180 --> 01:49:43,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit pinalaki 1569 01:49:43,180 --> 01:49:45,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pa ito ngayon, 1570 01:49:45,180 --> 01:49:47,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pagkatapos binawasan 1571 01:49:47,180 --> 01:49:49,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung para sa edukasyon, health, 1572 01:49:49,180 --> 01:49:51,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at sa agrikultura? Ano pong 1573 01:49:51,180 --> 01:49:53,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ah 1574 01:49:53,180 --> 01:49:55,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ano pong 1575 01:49:55,180 --> 01:49:57,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: makabuluhang dahilan 1576 01:49:57,180 --> 01:49:59,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bakit ito ginawa? 1577 01:50:01,180 --> 01:50:03,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 1578 01:50:03,180 --> 01:50:05,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to the NEP, 1579 01:50:05,180 --> 01:50:07,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the crafting of the NEP, the 1580 01:50:07,180 --> 01:50:09,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEP-DEV doesn't have 1581 01:50:09,180 --> 01:50:11,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: purview over the crafting of the NEP. 1582 01:50:11,180 --> 01:50:13,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So the DEP-DEV can't speak 1583 01:50:13,180 --> 01:50:15,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to 1584 01:50:15,180 --> 01:50:17,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the allocations of sectors. 1585 01:50:19,180 --> 01:50:21,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang DEP-DEV po ay 1586 01:50:21,180 --> 01:50:23,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hindi 1587 01:50:23,180 --> 01:50:25,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: parte ng policy making 1588 01:50:25,180 --> 01:50:27,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in terms of 1589 01:50:27,180 --> 01:50:29,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: items of 1590 01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:31,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: expenditures 1591 01:50:31,180 --> 01:50:33,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: that should be prioritized 1592 01:50:33,180 --> 01:50:35,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: by the government? 1593 01:50:47,180 --> 01:50:49,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to 1594 01:50:49,180 --> 01:50:51,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the prioritization of sectors, 1595 01:50:51,180 --> 01:50:53,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEP-DEV is involved 1596 01:50:53,180 --> 01:50:55,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the prioritization 1597 01:50:55,180 --> 01:50:57,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the sectors, 1598 01:50:57,180 --> 01:50:59,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which would reflect 1599 01:50:59,180 --> 01:51:01,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the NEP. 1600 01:51:01,180 --> 01:51:03,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So hindi po 1601 01:51:03,180 --> 01:51:05,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na-prioritize, wala pong input 1602 01:51:05,180 --> 01:51:07,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa prioritization 1603 01:51:07,180 --> 01:51:09,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang DEP-DEV pagdating po sa edukasyon, 1604 01:51:09,180 --> 01:51:11,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa health, sa pagbabawas nito, 1605 01:51:11,180 --> 01:51:13,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at sa pagdadagdag 1606 01:51:13,180 --> 01:51:15,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa mga ayuda, 1607 01:51:15,180 --> 01:51:17,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: LGSF, 1608 01:51:17,180 --> 01:51:19,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: wala po bang input dito 1609 01:51:19,180 --> 01:51:21,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang DEP-DEV? 1610 01:51:21,180 --> 01:51:23,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEP-DEV recommends, 1611 01:51:23,180 --> 01:51:25,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 1612 01:51:25,180 --> 01:51:27,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in line with 1613 01:51:27,180 --> 01:51:29,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: whatever it is 1614 01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:31,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that is incorporated 1615 01:51:31,180 --> 01:51:33,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: into the Philippine Development Plan. 1616 01:51:33,180 --> 01:51:35,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pwede ko bang sabihin 1617 01:51:35,180 --> 01:51:37,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na ang naging priority 1618 01:51:37,180 --> 01:51:39,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng Administrasyong Marcos 1619 01:51:39,180 --> 01:51:41,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay hindi po 1620 01:51:41,180 --> 01:51:43,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung magpapaunlad 1621 01:51:43,180 --> 01:51:45,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng ating 1622 01:51:45,180 --> 01:51:47,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ekonomiya, kundi 1623 01:51:47,180 --> 01:51:49,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung paano 1624 01:51:49,180 --> 01:51:51,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mapagbibigyan yung mga kaalyado 1625 01:51:51,180 --> 01:51:53,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa politika? 1626 01:51:53,180 --> 01:51:55,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yan po ba yan? Dahil karamihan po 1627 01:51:55,180 --> 01:51:57,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga ayuda, lalo na ng LGSF, 1628 01:51:57,180 --> 01:51:59,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay binibigay sa mga 1629 01:51:59,180 --> 01:52:01,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: politiko, sa mga 1630 01:52:01,180 --> 01:52:03,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: local government. 1631 01:52:03,180 --> 01:52:05,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pwede ko bang masabi yun? 1632 01:52:05,180 --> 01:52:07,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pwede bang maging 1633 01:52:07,180 --> 01:52:09,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: conclusion natin yun? 1634 01:52:11,180 --> 01:52:13,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, 1635 01:52:13,180 --> 01:52:15,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEP-DEV really just recommends 1636 01:52:15,180 --> 01:52:17,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: policies in line with 1637 01:52:17,180 --> 01:52:19,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the objectives of the Philippine Development Plan, 1638 01:52:19,180 --> 01:52:21,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 1639 01:52:39,180 --> 01:52:41,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I just hope that 1640 01:52:41,180 --> 01:52:43,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in the 1641 01:52:43,180 --> 01:52:45,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2028 budget, 1642 01:52:45,180 --> 01:52:47,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung funding for human capital 1643 01:52:47,180 --> 01:52:49,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: development, 1644 01:52:49,180 --> 01:52:51,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: livelihood support, 1645 01:52:51,180 --> 01:52:53,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and productivity 1646 01:52:53,180 --> 01:52:55,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay prioritized na po 1647 01:52:55,180 --> 01:52:57,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa pamagitan ng recommendation 1648 01:52:57,180 --> 01:52:59,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng DEP-DEV 1649 01:52:59,180 --> 01:53:01,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sapagkat 1650 01:53:01,180 --> 01:53:03,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kayo naman po ang inaasahan 1651 01:53:03,180 --> 01:53:05,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na siyang magbibigay 1652 01:53:05,180 --> 01:53:07,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng direction, policy direction 1653 01:53:07,180 --> 01:53:09,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pang 1654 01:53:09,180 --> 01:53:11,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mangat ang buhay ng ating 1655 01:53:11,180 --> 01:53:13,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga kababayan, mangat ang buhay 1656 01:53:13,180 --> 01:53:15,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng ating 1657 01:53:15,180 --> 01:53:17,180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bansa. Maraming salamat po. 1658 01:53:19,180 --> 01:53:20,050 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 1659 01:53:25,150 --> 01:53:25,760 Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, 1660 01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:27,080 Rep. Brian Poe: I'd like to recognize 1661 01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:28,740 Rep. Brian Poe: Congressman Serge 1662 01:53:28,740 --> 01:53:30,340 Rep. Brian Poe: Dagooc for his 1663 01:53:30,340 --> 01:53:31,320 Rep. Brian Poe: interpellation. 1664 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:41,800 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Dagooc 1665 01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:42,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is now recognized 1666 01:53:42,700 --> 01:53:44,360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: for his interpellation. 1667 01:53:51,180 --> 01:53:53,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 1668 01:53:53,180 --> 01:53:55,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Majority Leader. 1669 01:53:55,180 --> 01:53:57,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: For the 1670 01:53:57,180 --> 01:53:59,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: distinguished sponsor, 1671 01:53:59,180 --> 01:54:01,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yield to 1672 01:54:01,180 --> 01:54:03,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: only one issue 1673 01:54:03,180 --> 01:54:05,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: for the DEP-DEV. 1674 01:54:05,180 --> 01:54:07,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1675 01:54:07,180 --> 01:54:09,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, 1676 01:54:09,180 --> 01:54:11,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker. Thank you, 1677 01:54:11,180 --> 01:54:13,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: distinguished sponsor. 1678 01:54:13,180 --> 01:54:15,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: First of all, 1679 01:54:15,180 --> 01:54:17,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I appreciate 1680 01:54:17,180 --> 01:54:19,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the 1681 01:54:19,180 --> 01:54:23,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: timely 1682 01:54:23,180 --> 01:54:25,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: submission of 1683 01:54:25,180 --> 01:54:27,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: DEP-DEV 1684 01:54:27,180 --> 01:54:29,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on the data I have requested 1685 01:54:29,180 --> 01:54:31,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: during the budget briefing. 1686 01:54:31,180 --> 01:54:33,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: But as a backgrounder, 1687 01:54:33,180 --> 01:54:35,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I did not only 1688 01:54:35,180 --> 01:54:37,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ask this data during 1689 01:54:37,180 --> 01:54:39,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the budget briefing. 1690 01:54:39,180 --> 01:54:41,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: In the previous committee hearings 1691 01:54:41,180 --> 01:54:43,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: of the Committee on Ways and Means, 1692 01:54:43,180 --> 01:54:45,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: particularly when we 1693 01:54:45,180 --> 01:54:47,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: deliberated the 1694 01:54:47,180 --> 01:54:49,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bill granting special powers, 1695 01:54:49,180 --> 01:54:51,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to the President, 1696 01:54:51,180 --> 01:54:53,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ay lumipad pa nga ako dito 1697 01:54:53,180 --> 01:54:55,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: dahil break 'yun 1698 01:54:55,180 --> 01:54:57,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: para lang maka-attend sa Ways and Means. 1699 01:54:57,180 --> 01:54:59,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung special 1700 01:54:59,180 --> 01:55:01,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: power to 1701 01:55:01,180 --> 01:55:03,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: suspend 1702 01:55:03,180 --> 01:55:05,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: some taxes 1703 01:55:05,180 --> 01:55:07,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on oil. 1704 01:55:07,180 --> 01:55:09,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero hindi po 1705 01:55:09,180 --> 01:55:11,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nakapagbigay si PSA 1706 01:55:11,180 --> 01:55:13,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: at saka si DTI. 1707 01:55:13,180 --> 01:55:15,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Because I wanted to know 1708 01:55:15,180 --> 01:55:17,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the percentage share 1709 01:55:17,180 --> 01:55:19,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: of electricity 1710 01:55:19,180 --> 01:55:21,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and oil 1711 01:55:21,180 --> 01:55:23,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on the cost of production 1712 01:55:23,180 --> 01:55:25,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and 1713 01:55:25,180 --> 01:55:27,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: services. 1714 01:55:27,180 --> 01:55:29,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Cost of 1715 01:55:29,180 --> 01:55:31,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: products and services. 1716 01:55:31,180 --> 01:55:33,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, 1717 01:55:33,180 --> 01:55:35,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kaya inulit ko 'to, 1718 01:55:35,180 --> 01:55:37,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nagtuturuan yung dalawa. 1719 01:55:37,180 --> 01:55:39,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit ko hiningi 'yon? 1720 01:55:39,180 --> 01:55:41,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Napakaimportante 'yon. Kasi 1721 01:55:41,180 --> 01:55:43,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I wanted to make sure 1722 01:55:43,180 --> 01:55:45,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na the 1723 01:55:45,180 --> 01:55:47,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: amount of any 1724 01:55:47,180 --> 01:55:49,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: revenue na 1725 01:55:49,180 --> 01:55:51,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na [unclear] ng government 1726 01:55:51,180 --> 01:55:53,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: para lang mabawasan yung presyo, 1727 01:55:53,180 --> 01:55:55,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: would reflect the 1728 01:55:55,180 --> 01:55:57,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: price of that goods. 1729 01:55:57,180 --> 01:55:59,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: And in the case of oil, 1730 01:55:59,180 --> 01:56:01,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: would reflect the pump price. 1731 01:56:01,300 --> 01:56:11,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kung tanggalan natin ng excise tax yung 12 pesos per liter, dapat mag-reflect yung reduction na 12 pesos per liter sa pump price. 1732 01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:23,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kung mabawasan natin, with yung advocacy ko since 2019, na wala ngang VAT yung systems loss. Dahil losses na nga yun eh. 1733 01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:44,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: It is not a product, not a service. Pero after seven years lang na-realize ko, napakaliit yung systems loss na yan compared doon sa buong taxes ng kuryente natin na pinapatawan ng multiple taxes. 1734 01:56:44,700 --> 01:57:01,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ngayon hindi maibigay-bigay. Inulit ko lately sa DBCC na ibigay naman ni DepDev noong September 14, kasi ang usapan bago mag-plenary. 1735 01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:15,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: But to my surprise, ang binigay ni DepDev na data galing sa PSA is 2018. 1736 01:57:15,180 --> 01:57:25,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, when I look at the budget of Dipdib, pinakamalaki yung PSA 1737 01:57:25,940 --> 01:57:33,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Dahil nga, isa sana sa mga tanong ko kanina, pakit biglang lumubo yung budget ng PSA 1738 01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:37,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero naitanong na ng mga kasamahan ko 1739 01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, parang nag-catch up si PSA 1740 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:45,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ngayon, ano ang hugot ko dito sa 2018? 1741 01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:52,740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, doon ko napagtanto, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor 1742 01:57:52,740 --> 01:58:00,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Na inconsistent yung presentation ni Dipdib during the budget briefing 1743 01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:13,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi, on that presentation, Dipdib admitted na isa sa pangunahing sanhi na bumaba yung FDI natin 1744 01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:18,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ay dahil yung napakataas ang cost of electricity 1745 01:58:18,420 --> 01:58:20,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Which I agree 1746 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:27,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero kung tingnan mo yung mga proposed na solutions and recommendation 1747 01:58:27,660 --> 01:58:31,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nasa long term po yung part ng electricity 1748 01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, there is inconsistency 1749 01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:43,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Now, dadagdagan pa ng recommendation ng PPP 1750 01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:50,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Na i-PPP yung rehabilitasyon or i-privatize yung Agus and Pulangi 1751 01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:55,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Which is, for me, mali na naman yung data na ginamit 1752 01:58:55,420 --> 01:58:56,460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Maybe in the evaluation 1753 01:58:56,460 --> 01:59:00,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi dito sa 2018, if this is the basis 1754 01:59:00,340 --> 01:59:07,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Talagang lumilitaw na maliit lang yung percentage share ng electricity 1755 01:59:07,180 --> 01:59:09,760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Doon sa cost of productions 1756 01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:11,820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, sa products and services 1757 01:59:11,820 --> 01:59:13,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Dahil napakamura 1758 01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:15,720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang kurinti nung 2018 1759 01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya siguro, napagdesisyonan 1760 01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:20,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I-privatize na lang natin 1761 01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Which is not the case at present 1762 01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:25,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Itong data na 2018 1763 01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:27,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kung this is the basis of the recommendation 1764 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:29,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ay maling-mali 1765 01:59:29,260 --> 01:59:34,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi mataas na po yung share or cost ng electricity 1766 01:59:34,860 --> 01:59:37,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Biruin mo ang domino effect nito 1767 01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:41,680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: We are funding billions of pesos sa infrastructure 1768 01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ilang libo 1769 01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:48,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Or milyon, milyones na sako ng siminto ang kailangan 1770 01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Doon sa mga infra natin 1771 01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:53,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ilang kabilya yung minamanufacture 1772 01:59:53,140 --> 01:59:56,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Eh kung tansyahin mo yung cost of electricity 1773 01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: To produce those infra 1774 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:21,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang laki sana ng ginhawa natin kung natutukan natin yung kurinti aside sa pagpasok ng FDI that can generate employment, generate revenue in terms of taxes, etc., etc., we can reduce the cost of budget for infra na magamit natin sa ano. 1775 02:00:21,180 --> 02:00:51,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero hindi natutukan yung kuryente dahil palagay ko mali yung mga data na [unclear]. Very clear po, Madam Speaker, yung mandate ng PSA sa charter nila: timely and accurate data na gagamitin ng ating gobyerno to determine doon sa mga ire-recommend na projects and programs for economic 1776 02:00:51,180 --> 02:01:08,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: development. Kaya po, ang itatanong ko ngayon, sino po sa DepDev ang nag-prepare nito? I give the benefit of the doubt. 1777 02:01:09,580 --> 02:01:16,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I'm managing two electric distribution utilities for the last 33 years. 1778 02:01:17,620 --> 02:01:20,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Annually, we filled up. 1779 02:01:21,180 --> 02:01:26,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: On time, yung survey form ng PSA sa Karaga. 1780 02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:30,740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pag natanggap namin, two days after, binabalik na namin. 1781 02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:32,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit 2018 pa? 1782 02:01:33,220 --> 02:01:39,280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yet yung electrification program ang busy sa unenergized households, 2015. 1783 02:01:40,420 --> 02:01:44,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ngayon, 8 billion yata yung hiningi. Parang nag-catch up ang PSA. 1784 02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:47,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So nakikita ko itong agency na to. 1785 02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mukhang is a contributor. 1786 02:01:51,180 --> 02:01:53,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sa mga maling recommendation. 1787 02:01:53,180 --> 02:01:55,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So erase the doubt. 1788 02:01:55,180 --> 02:02:01,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Then, sino po yung specific name of person na nag-prepare nitong letter na to? 1789 02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:08,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: At sino yung person, personnel sa PSA na nagbigay nito? 1790 02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:12,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker. 1791 02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:14,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you. 1792 02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:45,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: While hinahanap niyo yung tao, 1793 02:02:45,540 --> 02:02:49,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: [unclear] ni good Secretary of DepDev, 1794 02:02:49,060 --> 02:02:50,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: what is the basic tool 1795 02:02:53,460 --> 02:02:55,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na ginagamit nyo 1796 02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: as a 1797 02:02:57,600 --> 02:02:59,280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: criteria. One of the basic 1798 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:00,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tool or one of the basic 1799 02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:03,580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: criteria na ginagamit nyo 1800 02:03:03,580 --> 02:03:05,560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa pag-recommend 1801 02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:07,240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa LIDAC, for example, 1802 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:09,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na ito yung mga gagawin natin. 1803 02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:11,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Particularly on economic 1804 02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:13,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: development. Kasi yan yung 1805 02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:15,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: trabaho ninyo. Anong ginagamit 1806 02:03:15,500 --> 02:03:15,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nyo na tool? 1807 02:03:17,580 --> 02:03:18,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished sponsor. 1808 02:03:21,020 --> 02:03:24,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, just to 1809 02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:26,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: address the first point, 1810 02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:28,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the input-output 1811 02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:30,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: survey... 1812 02:03:30,380 --> 02:03:32,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: No, tinatanong ko 1813 02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, 1814 02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:36,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ano yung 1815 02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:38,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: basic tool while hinahanap nyo yung 1816 02:03:38,540 --> 02:03:40,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tao? Kasi kanina yung 1817 02:03:40,420 --> 02:03:42,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: hinihingi ko, sinong tao? 1818 02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:44,420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi parang 1819 02:03:44,420 --> 02:03:46,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nagtuturuan na dito na 1820 02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:48,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: hindi naman sulat nila 1821 02:03:48,660 --> 02:03:50,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to. So, galing 1822 02:03:50,700 --> 02:03:52,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ito sa kaninong tao. 1823 02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:54,400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: While we're waiting for that 1824 02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:55,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: pangalan ng tao, 1825 02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ano bang basic tool na ginagamit 1826 02:03:58,740 --> 02:03:59,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ni DipDip 1827 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to evaluate? Anong program? 1828 02:04:02,940 --> 02:04:03,580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Anong 1829 02:04:03,580 --> 02:04:06,680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: development 1830 02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:11,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: development programs 1831 02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:12,040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na 1832 02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kanyang isasama sa LIDAC 1833 02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:16,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and ultimately to the NIP? 1834 02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:20,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Diba, Mr. 1835 02:04:20,700 --> 02:04:22,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Diba, Distinguished Sponsor, 1836 02:04:24,620 --> 02:04:26,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mr. Secretary, DITA. 1837 02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:28,760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Diba DITA ang ginagamit ninyo? 1838 02:04:30,420 --> 02:04:31,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Am I correct? 1839 02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:34,760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Am I correct? DITA, 1840 02:04:35,660 --> 02:04:37,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: isa sa mga basic tools na 1841 02:04:37,500 --> 02:04:38,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ginagamit ninyo. 1842 02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:41,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Am I correct? 1843 02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:43,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1844 02:04:43,580 --> 02:04:45,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, the DepDev uses 1845 02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:46,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: econometrics. 1846 02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a macroeconomic, 1847 02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:50,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: macroeconomic, 1848 02:04:50,700 --> 02:04:51,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: models. 1849 02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:53,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: But that model uses DITA. 1850 02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:54,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1851 02:04:54,740 --> 02:04:56,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, kung mali yung DITA, 1852 02:04:57,480 --> 02:04:59,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ika nga garbage in, 1853 02:04:59,420 --> 02:05:01,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: garbage out. Tama po ba ako, 1854 02:05:01,620 --> 02:05:02,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker? 1855 02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:04,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1856 02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, kung mali yung DITA, mali yung may 1857 02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:08,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: recommend ninyo kasi mali yung pananaw ninyo 1858 02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:10,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa isang bagay. That is how 1859 02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:12,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: important. Kaya medyo, 1860 02:05:12,780 --> 02:05:14,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I am frustrated 1861 02:05:14,260 --> 02:05:15,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: with what I have received. 1862 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ngayon, sino yung tao na yun na 1863 02:05:18,700 --> 02:05:20,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nagbigay? Hindi siya dapat 1864 02:05:20,660 --> 02:05:22,520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: maratili sa either sa 1865 02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:23,980 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: DepDev or sa PSE. 1866 02:05:25,820 --> 02:05:27,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi napakalaking 1867 02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:28,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: pinsala yung ginawa niya 1868 02:05:28,860 --> 02:05:30,660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kung nagbigay siya ng mali na DITA. 1869 02:05:55,660 --> 02:05:57,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 1870 02:05:58,100 --> 02:06:00,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: You recognize the sentiments, 1871 02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:02,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: definitely the concerns of 1872 02:06:02,260 --> 02:06:03,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable Tagoo. 1873 02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:06,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to give a background about 1874 02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:08,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this, the input, the IO 1875 02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:10,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: survey, 1876 02:06:10,820 --> 02:06:12,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the IO tables, the input-output tables. 1877 02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:14,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The survey, 1878 02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:20,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which is the 1879 02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:23,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: CPBIO, 1880 02:06:24,060 --> 02:06:26,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Census of Businesses and Industries 1881 02:06:26,660 --> 02:06:28,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: survey. 1882 02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:30,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These are conducted 1883 02:06:30,140 --> 02:06:31,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: every six years. 1884 02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:34,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So from the part 1885 02:06:34,380 --> 02:06:35,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of DepDev, according to DepDev, 1886 02:06:35,900 --> 02:06:37,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the data that was given to the 1887 02:06:37,940 --> 02:06:39,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable Tagoo was for the 1888 02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:40,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 2018 1889 02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:41,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: IOs. 1890 02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:48,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The most recent 1891 02:06:48,060 --> 02:06:50,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: survey was conducted in 2025, 1892 02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:50,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with reference to the 1893 02:06:52,460 --> 02:06:58,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 2024 data. There is preliminary 1894 02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:02,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: data which the PSA is ready to provide. 1895 02:07:02,140 --> 02:07:06,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, these are not official statistics yet. 1896 02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:14,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: An indulgence of Honorable Tagoo, the PSA has given its commitment that if the Honorable Tagoo 1897 02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:19,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: desires to see the preliminary data, particularly with the IO, 1898 02:07:19,980 --> 02:07:23,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and electricity costs, Madam Speaker, the PSA is ready. 1899 02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:24,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished Sponsor, 1900 02:07:25,700 --> 02:07:28,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: it is not acceptable to me. 1901 02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:29,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang tanong ko, 1902 02:07:30,500 --> 02:07:32,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: is it provided 1903 02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:33,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: in your charter 1904 02:07:33,940 --> 02:07:35,240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung 1905 02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:37,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: six years na 1906 02:07:37,260 --> 02:07:38,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: survey o 1907 02:07:38,300 --> 02:07:40,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kayo-kayo lang ang nag-sit na 1908 02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:42,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: every three years, every two years, every six years? 1909 02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:44,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Is it provided 1910 02:07:44,620 --> 02:07:47,040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: under 10.625? 1911 02:07:48,340 --> 02:07:49,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi napaka-importante itong mga 1912 02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:50,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: data na 'to. 1913 02:07:50,020 --> 02:08:10,280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero biruin mo yung layo ng presyo ng kuryente sa six years, tapos gawin mong six years yung mga data na 'yan. Buti kung households lang 'yan; it does not affect the economic decisions. No, yung mga economic recommendations, it affects. 1914 02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:23,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi six years na cost ng electricity. For example, to be specific, yung 2018 na kuryente sa Mindanao ay six pesos, eight pesos, nineteen pesos na ngayon. 1915 02:08:23,700 --> 02:08:40,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sinong nagsit ng 6 years? Is that compliant with your charter which specifically provides that you are created to give timely and accurate data for use sa gobyerno natin? 1916 02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:47,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Is that timely yung 6 years? O kayo-kayo lang ang nagsit para hindi kayo mahirapan? 1917 02:08:49,420 --> 02:09:08,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Can you imagine, I know, the good Secretary Balisakan, ay naintindihan mo ako, because you are aware, ano yung cost nitong hinihingi ko, anong impact nito sa ating budget process, priority decision of project. 1918 02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:10,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya hindi. 1919 02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:19,720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi po para sa akin, hindi po maliit na bagay itong 28 na data, tapos gagamitin mo sa 2027 na budget. 1920 02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:25,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi maliit na bagay yun. Napakataas na discrepancy yun na magkamali yung desisyon mo. 1921 02:09:28,380 --> 02:09:39,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Biroin mo yung asawa mo kung mag-prepare ng budget mo sa 2027, ibigay mo lang yung sahod mo sa 2028 na sahod mo. 1922 02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:40,820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama ba yun? 1923 02:09:44,340 --> 02:09:54,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, as per the DepDev, all the timings of the surveys are determined by the PSA Board. So this is an interagency board. 1924 02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:06,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, it's shared by the DepDev Secretary, but there are multiple members. 1925 02:10:06,140 --> 02:10:10,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker, with all jurisprudence. 1926 02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:36,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi po sagot sa ating problema sa pag-determine ng priority projects at recommendations on our economic development program, yung kung sinong namumuno at dahil sinit nila yan ng 6 years, 5 years, 4 years, ay tama na sila. 1927 02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:39,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I'm asking, is that compliant? 1928 02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:52,780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Is that compliant or consistent or in accordance with the provisions of your charter na sinasabi timely and accurate? 1929 02:10:53,220 --> 02:11:01,840 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: That is no longer accurate. 2018 is not accurate with the data of 2025. So you are violating your charter. 1930 02:11:02,660 --> 02:11:04,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So ngayon, bakit hingi kayo ng budget? 1931 02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:09,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: You are not even compliant with what you are doing. 1932 02:11:09,400 --> 02:11:10,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: You are not compliant. 1933 02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:10,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: You are not compliant with your charter. 1934 02:11:11,140 --> 02:11:14,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi ko na ito pahabain for the interest of time. 1935 02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:16,100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ayaw kong i-hostage yung mga kasamaan ko. 1936 02:11:16,740 --> 02:11:19,140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi ko na ituloy. 1937 02:11:19,660 --> 02:11:28,440 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi, sawa na po ako sa 7 taon na yung mga agency, patapusin lang nila yung oras ng interpelator. 1938 02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:31,380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Naghihintay kami, naghihintay yung asawa ko. 1939 02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:35,380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tapos, nakajakit na nga, nakamaro, nakaano pa. 1940 02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:37,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tapos, wala namang mangyari. 1941 02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:39,820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pagkatapos, ay anyway, approved naman nila yun. 1942 02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:40,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sige, hindi ko na ituloy. 1943 02:11:40,280 --> 02:11:41,760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I've been years na ako sa ganito. 1944 02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:48,180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Alam ng mga tao dito sa roles na hindi ako umalis dito habang ano. 1945 02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:53,580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya, it is unacceptable for me na gani-ganito na lang. 1946 02:11:54,200 --> 02:12:00,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi, napakalaki ang impact na dita na ito sa ating desisyon sa pag-budget. 1947 02:12:00,340 --> 02:12:01,820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sa rekomendasyon ng dip-dip. 1948 02:12:02,220 --> 02:12:08,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya, you are created by law para magbigay ng rekomendasyon. 1949 02:12:08,060 --> 02:12:10,160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: At alam ko, dita yung ginagawa. 1950 02:12:10,280 --> 02:12:15,800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nagamit ninyo sa pag-evaluate kung ano yung i-recommend nyo. 1951 02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:19,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ngayon, kung mali yung dita, garbage in, garbage out nga. 1952 02:12:20,500 --> 02:12:24,240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, I will not prolong the agony of others. 1953 02:12:25,940 --> 02:12:30,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tatapusin ko na yung interpellation ko sa dip-dip. 1954 02:12:31,940 --> 02:12:34,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Including yung PSA. 1955 02:12:35,540 --> 02:12:36,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mamaya na lang. 1956 02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:38,480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 1957 02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:39,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor. 1958 02:12:41,180 --> 02:12:42,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: [unclear] Leader. 1959 02:12:43,220 --> 02:12:49,600 Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, we'd like to now call upon Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party List for his interpellation. 1960 02:12:51,940 --> 02:12:56,980 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party List is now recognized for his interpellation. 1961 02:13:07,040 --> 02:13:09,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, just to clarify, this is for DBM already. 1962 02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:26,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I'll go right to my questions 1963 02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:28,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair 1964 02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:30,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hold muna 1965 02:13:30,900 --> 02:13:35,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paki suspend yung time 1966 02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:43,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair 1967 02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:46,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to request our 1968 02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:48,000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Technical Committee 1969 02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:50,400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: to please suspend the time or return it to zero 1970 02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:51,420 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: since the 1971 02:13:51,420 --> 02:13:54,140 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Nassal has not yet started 1972 02:13:54,140 --> 02:13:55,020 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: asking questions 1973 02:13:55,020 --> 02:13:57,400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Please stop the time 1974 02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:59,500 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: You may proceed 1975 02:13:59,500 --> 02:14:01,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you Madam Chair 1976 02:14:01,620 --> 02:14:05,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished colleague 1977 02:14:05,180 --> 02:14:06,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So for DBM 1978 02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:10,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Gusto ko lang pong balikan yung 1979 02:14:10,140 --> 02:14:12,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pinakel natin kanina 1980 02:14:12,420 --> 02:14:14,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair 1981 02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:17,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam 1982 02:14:17,000 --> 02:14:18,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished colleague 1983 02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:21,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I just would like to express 1984 02:14:21,340 --> 02:14:21,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na 1985 02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:26,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama po ba 1986 02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:29,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that you cannot suspend an expenditure 1987 02:14:29,420 --> 02:14:31,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: under Section 38 1988 02:14:31,420 --> 02:14:32,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: when there is no SARO 1989 02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:34,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or allotment yet 1990 02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:36,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So I would just like to clear that up 1991 02:14:36,300 --> 02:14:39,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Minabalikan ko lang po yung pinag-usapan kanina 1992 02:14:40,140 --> 02:14:48,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung sa Section 38 po 1993 02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:51,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung suspension of expenditure of appropriations 1994 02:14:51,100 --> 02:14:53,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: except as otherwise provided 1995 02:14:53,260 --> 02:14:54,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: in the General Appropriations Act 1996 02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:57,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and whenever in his judgment 1997 02:14:57,440 --> 02:14:59,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the public interest so requires 1998 02:14:59,700 --> 02:15:00,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the President 1999 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:17,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Upon notice to the head of the office concerned, it is authorized to suspend or otherwise stop further expenditure of funds allotted for the agency or any other expenditure authorized in the GAA except for personal services, appropriations used for permanent officials and employees. 2000 02:15:20,060 --> 02:15:21,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So kinaklarify ko lang po. 2001 02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:27,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Please suspend my time. 2002 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pakitigilan po. 2003 02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:33,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you. 2004 02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:41,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2005 02:15:42,860 --> 02:15:49,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We can suspend appropriations without initial allotment. 2006 02:15:52,820 --> 02:15:54,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bawal po sa Arawlio. 2007 02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:55,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Very clear po yun. 2008 02:15:58,200 --> 02:15:59,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: You cannot suspend. 2009 02:15:59,880 --> 02:15:59,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano? 2010 02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:10,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang tinatanong ko po, kinaklarify ko, you cannot suspend an expenditure under Section 38 when there is no SARO or allotment yet. 2011 02:16:12,600 --> 02:16:13,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes or no? 2012 02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:23,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Time please. 2013 02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:26,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 2014 02:16:26,940 --> 02:16:27,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 2015 02:16:27,380 --> 02:16:29,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 2016 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:46,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The particular provision or the particular paragraph that the Honorable Nazal is referring to, according to the DBM, is not part of the actual decision of the Supreme Court. 2017 02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:47,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's part of a separate opinion. 2018 02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:59,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nandun po sa Section 38 nung EO 292 Administrative Code of 1987, Book 6, Chapter 5. 2019 02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:01,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Section 38. 2020 02:17:01,780 --> 02:17:04,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Suspension of expenditure of appropriations. 2021 02:17:04,400 --> 02:17:05,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It's very specific. 2022 02:17:06,900 --> 02:17:15,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang sinasabi po doon, you cannot suspend an expenditure without allotment. 2023 02:17:17,500 --> 02:17:19,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So I just want us to agree. 2024 02:17:26,880 --> 02:17:28,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: My time please. 2025 02:18:28,500 --> 02:18:34,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi kung sinasabi niyo po na hindi na? 2026 02:18:38,500 --> 02:19:10,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, if I am allowed? Oh, sorry. Madam Speaker, if I will be allowed to read the particular paragraph as relevant to the question of the Honorable Nazal. In contrast, the respondents emphasized that NBC No. 541 adopted a spending, not saving, policy as a last-ditch effort of the executive to push agencies into actually spending their appropriations. 2027 02:19:11,600 --> 02:19:27,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That such policy did not amount to an impoundment scheme because impoundment referred to the decision of the executive to refuse to spend funds for political or ideological reasons. 2028 02:19:27,560 --> 02:19:29,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And that the withdrawal of… 2029 02:19:29,740 --> 02:19:41,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The withdrawal of allotments under NBC No. 541 was made pursuant to Section 38, Chapter 5, Book 6 of the Administrative Code, 2030 02:19:42,340 --> 02:19:53,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by which the President was granted the authority to suspend or otherwise stop further expenditure of funds allotted to any agency. 2031 02:19:53,260 --> 02:19:59,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Twice, Madam Chair and Distinguished Colleague, twice you mentioned allotment. 2032 02:19:59,740 --> 02:20:01,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Allotted, allotment. 2033 02:20:01,540 --> 02:20:08,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ang tinatanong ko lang po is, ang pwede lang po ba i-suspend ay yung allotted? 2034 02:20:13,060 --> 02:20:13,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes or no? 2035 02:20:16,220 --> 02:20:20,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nakalagay po yung sinabi niyo doon sa NBC, allotment, allotted. 2036 02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:24,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, pag hindi allotted, pwede ba i-suspend? 2037 02:20:27,860 --> 02:20:28,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes or no? 2038 02:20:29,740 --> 02:20:42,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, as for the DBM, we can suspend for both locations and allotment. 2039 02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:47,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Were there already suspended na hindi allotted? 2040 02:20:49,780 --> 02:20:52,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron na po tayo mga sinuspend na hindi allotted? 2041 02:20:52,380 --> 02:20:54,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes. 2042 02:20:59,740 --> 02:21:05,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM has not invoked Section 38 as of today. 2043 02:21:05,180 --> 02:21:06,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sorry, I cannot hear you. 2044 02:21:06,340 --> 02:21:06,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 2045 02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:10,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you please speak again, again? Sorry. 2046 02:21:10,900 --> 02:21:14,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM has not invoked Section 38 as of today. 2047 02:21:14,600 --> 02:21:18,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: They have not invoked Section 38. So, wala pa tayo na sususpend na hindi allotted? 2048 02:21:20,120 --> 02:21:23,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Wala pa tayo na sususpend na allotted either? 2049 02:21:23,420 --> 02:21:28,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM has not suspended either the allotment or the appropriation. 2050 02:21:33,940 --> 02:21:34,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As of today. 2051 02:21:34,500 --> 02:21:37,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But are you saying that you can suspend even if it's not allotted? 2052 02:21:44,540 --> 02:21:46,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2053 02:21:46,420 --> 02:21:47,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That is what you're saying. 2054 02:21:47,800 --> 02:21:51,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: You have to really take a look at that kasi bawal po yun. 2055 02:21:52,260 --> 02:21:54,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Expressly stated yan doon sa administrative code. 2056 02:21:57,180 --> 02:21:59,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, but the DBM assures that it has not... 2057 02:21:59,740 --> 02:22:03,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It has not done any suspension with regards to both appropriations and allotment. 2058 02:22:03,740 --> 02:22:12,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I respectfully disagree po na pwede po tayo mag-suspend ng hindi allotted. 2059 02:22:13,300 --> 02:22:17,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The Supreme Court in Araulio v. Aquino was categorical. 2060 02:22:17,920 --> 02:22:23,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The President cannot exercise the power to suspend or stop expenditure under Section 38 2061 02:22:23,900 --> 02:22:29,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: towards appropriations as funds for it have yet to be released and allotted. 2062 02:22:29,740 --> 02:22:36,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And that is very specifically stated doon po sa Araulio v. Aquino. 2063 02:22:36,400 --> 02:22:39,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is what you're saying. 2064 02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:40,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 2065 02:22:41,820 --> 02:22:44,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to reiterate, Madam Speaker, 2066 02:22:44,780 --> 02:22:49,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that particular provision that the Honorable Nazales is referring to 2067 02:22:49,860 --> 02:22:51,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is a part of a separate opinion. 2068 02:22:51,960 --> 02:22:53,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's not part of the decision of the Supreme Court. 2069 02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:55,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: No, that is part of the Supreme Court decision. 2070 02:22:55,340 --> 02:22:56,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It is very specific. 2071 02:22:57,860 --> 02:22:59,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It is stated exactly... 2072 02:22:59,740 --> 02:23:00,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Exactly in the decision. 2073 02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:04,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kahit... 2074 02:23:04,360 --> 02:23:06,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And even if you go back to Section 38, 2075 02:23:08,580 --> 02:23:12,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: basahin niyo po yung Section 38 nung National... 2076 02:23:12,020 --> 02:23:15,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nung Book 6, nung Administrative Code of 1987. 2077 02:23:16,400 --> 02:23:16,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nandun po. 2078 02:23:18,060 --> 02:23:18,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi pwede. 2079 02:23:21,960 --> 02:23:26,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, as for the filists of the DBM, 2080 02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:29,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's a part of a separate opinion. 2081 02:23:29,740 --> 02:23:32,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a part of a separate opinion by Justice Biron. 2082 02:23:33,140 --> 02:23:37,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So it's not part of the decision of the Supreme Court. 2083 02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:39,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for DBM files. 2084 02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:44,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: You have... 2085 02:23:44,820 --> 02:23:45,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tignan na lang po natin. 2086 02:23:46,020 --> 02:23:48,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I will also show you the specific provision cited 2087 02:23:48,780 --> 02:23:50,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: based on the decision. 2088 02:23:53,700 --> 02:23:57,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Anyway, my next question is... 2089 02:23:57,740 --> 02:23:59,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nagkakaintindihan po tayo 2090 02:23:59,740 --> 02:24:02,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That suspension is temporary. 2091 02:24:05,300 --> 02:24:07,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So a merely suspended project 2092 02:24:07,640 --> 02:24:09,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: cannot be treated as savings. 2093 02:24:09,880 --> 02:24:10,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama po ba? 2094 02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:11,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2095 02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:15,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It can qualify as savings only 2096 02:24:15,400 --> 02:24:17,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: when the applicable GAA requirements 2097 02:24:17,260 --> 02:24:18,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: are independently satisfied. 2098 02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:21,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For example, completion, 2099 02:24:22,020 --> 02:24:23,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: final discontinuance or abandonment, 2100 02:24:24,820 --> 02:24:27,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or balances resulting from efficiency measures. 2101 02:24:27,480 --> 02:24:27,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Correct? 2102 02:24:29,740 --> 02:24:36,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Final discontinuance, abandonment. 2103 02:24:36,420 --> 02:24:37,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2104 02:24:38,580 --> 02:24:40,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So hindi pwedeng suspended lang ang project 2105 02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:42,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pero savings na agad ang pera. 2106 02:24:43,600 --> 02:24:44,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama po. 2107 02:24:46,340 --> 02:24:50,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for DBM, those are two different matters, Madam Speaker. 2108 02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:53,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: No, no. That is not a different matter. 2109 02:24:53,480 --> 02:24:54,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I am just asking 2110 02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:55,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: if 2111 02:24:55,860 --> 02:24:58,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: we suspend some... 2112 02:24:58,800 --> 02:24:59,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pagka meron tayong... 2113 02:24:59,740 --> 02:25:00,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sinuspend na project, 2114 02:25:01,320 --> 02:25:03,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: hindi ito automatically treated as savings. 2115 02:25:03,900 --> 02:25:04,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama? 2116 02:25:04,060 --> 02:25:10,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2117 02:25:10,780 --> 02:25:12,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's not automatic that 2118 02:25:12,100 --> 02:25:14,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if we suspend, it's automatically saved. 2119 02:25:14,820 --> 02:25:16,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Chair, 2120 02:25:16,320 --> 02:25:17,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished Colleague, 2121 02:25:18,020 --> 02:25:20,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ngayon po i-connect naman natin ito sa NBC603. 2122 02:25:22,200 --> 02:25:24,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sa mga 2026 expenditures 2123 02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:26,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na pinatigil or suspended 2124 02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:29,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or subsequently treated as savings 2125 02:25:29,380 --> 02:25:30,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: under NBC603, 2126 02:25:31,880 --> 02:25:32,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: did DBM 2127 02:25:32,740 --> 02:25:34,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: require proof 2128 02:25:34,620 --> 02:25:37,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that each amount independently 2129 02:25:37,360 --> 02:25:39,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: satisfied the legal definition of savings, 2130 02:25:39,940 --> 02:25:41,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: not merely that it remained 2131 02:25:41,900 --> 02:25:42,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: unobligated? 2132 02:25:59,380 --> 02:26:00,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May time, please. 2133 02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:06,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2134 02:26:06,900 --> 02:26:08,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The agency head 2135 02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:10,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is required to submit 2136 02:26:10,780 --> 02:26:12,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a certification that 2137 02:26:12,640 --> 02:26:15,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the following 2138 02:26:15,360 --> 02:26:17,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: requirements are 2139 02:26:17,960 --> 02:26:19,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: complied with. 2140 02:26:19,740 --> 02:26:20,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, completion, 2141 02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:22,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: final discontinuance, 2142 02:26:23,020 --> 02:26:24,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or abandonment of a program activity 2143 02:26:24,800 --> 02:26:27,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or project for which the appropriation 2144 02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:27,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is authorized, 2145 02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:32,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or the implementation of measures 2146 02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:34,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: resulting in improved systems 2147 02:26:34,820 --> 02:26:35,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and efficiencies. 2148 02:26:36,220 --> 02:26:37,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, we have a project level, 2149 02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:40,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, certification 2150 02:26:40,300 --> 02:26:41,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: showing the specific 2151 02:26:41,900 --> 02:26:43,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: legal ground. 2152 02:26:44,360 --> 02:26:45,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2153 02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:47,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Per project po yan? 2154 02:26:48,120 --> 02:26:49,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Per project, yes. 2155 02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:50,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And can we get a copy? 2156 02:26:52,380 --> 02:26:53,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: A copy. 2157 02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:53,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 2158 02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:02,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the DBM commits 2159 02:27:02,700 --> 02:27:03,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to submitting. 2160 02:27:04,140 --> 02:27:06,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Distinguished Colleague, Madam Chair. 2161 02:27:06,960 --> 02:27:08,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: My next question is, 2162 02:27:09,080 --> 02:27:09,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, 2163 02:27:10,180 --> 02:27:11,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nung unang hearing 2164 02:27:11,080 --> 02:27:13,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: with the DBM, dun sa ating 2165 02:27:13,720 --> 02:27:16,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: DBM briefing, 2166 02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:19,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nakala natin 2167 02:27:19,620 --> 02:27:22,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nasa DPWH pa ang problema. 2168 02:27:23,920 --> 02:27:24,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ngayon, sinabi ng 2169 02:27:24,860 --> 02:27:26,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: DPWH nung kanilang briefing 2170 02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:27,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na binalik na siya, 2171 02:27:27,660 --> 02:27:28,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: binalik na sa DBM 2172 02:27:28,820 --> 02:27:30,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung mga SARO 2173 02:27:30,580 --> 02:27:32,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nung September 2025. 2174 02:27:33,720 --> 02:27:35,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kahit March 2025 pa lamang 2175 02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:37,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na-issue ang mga SARO. 2176 02:27:38,540 --> 02:27:39,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meaning, these projects 2177 02:27:39,740 --> 02:27:41,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: had already passed 2178 02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:42,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: NBC 595. 2179 02:27:44,380 --> 02:27:45,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can DBM confirm this? 2180 02:27:49,360 --> 02:27:50,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And natanggap nyo ba 2181 02:27:50,520 --> 02:27:52,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung mga ibinalik na SARO? 2182 02:27:57,660 --> 02:28:02,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to clarify, Madam Speaker, 2183 02:28:02,420 --> 02:28:03,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: September 2025? 2184 02:28:03,940 --> 02:28:05,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: September 2026? 2185 02:28:05,460 --> 02:28:07,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes, because during the hearing 2186 02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:08,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: with DPWH, 2187 02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:10,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang sabi po ng DPWH, 2188 02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:11,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: binalik nila 2189 02:28:11,500 --> 02:28:13,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung mga SARO sa inyo. 2190 02:28:13,500 --> 02:28:15,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And meron po silang report 2191 02:28:15,620 --> 02:28:17,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng negative SARO. 2192 02:28:18,620 --> 02:28:20,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, 2193 02:28:20,920 --> 02:28:22,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 2194 02:28:22,920 --> 02:28:24,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: no certifications have been 2195 02:28:24,920 --> 02:28:26,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: issued. 2196 02:28:26,920 --> 02:28:47,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So are you telling me Madam Chair, Distinguished Colleague na nagsisinungaling po yung DPWH dun sa sinabi nilang report na meron po silang report ng mga SARO na binalik sa inyo na meron silang negative SARO na galing sa inyo? 2197 02:28:56,920 --> 02:29:02,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May time please. 2198 02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:44,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, at least on the part of the DBM, it's not able to issue a negative SARO yet given that no purpose has been established at the time. 2199 02:29:44,140 --> 02:29:56,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So given that the supposed certifications were made in September 2025 and then the circular was issued, 2200 02:29:56,920 --> 02:29:59,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it was issued in April 2026. 2201 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, there's a disconnect in terms of the periods, Madam Speaker. 2202 02:30:09,520 --> 02:30:14,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano pong sabi niyo? Can you please repeat? You said September 2026? 2203 02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:15,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: September 2025. 2204 02:30:17,120 --> 02:30:19,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That was the report of the DPWH. 2205 02:30:19,740 --> 02:30:28,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: They reported that in September of 2025, minalik na po nila ang mga saraw. 2206 02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:32,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And this was an order made by the President. 2207 02:30:35,180 --> 02:30:40,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Well, with indulgence of our good colleague, Honorable Nazal, 2208 02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:45,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DBM is going to submit the list of the certifications anyway. 2209 02:30:45,500 --> 02:30:50,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, maybe that way, it would verify whichever... 2210 02:30:51,940 --> 02:30:56,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Anyway, are there saraw that were returned in 2025 by DPWH? 2211 02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:08,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi, I may be mistaken by the date, pero are there any saraw? 2212 02:31:08,780 --> 02:31:08,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes. 2213 02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:22,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2025, it's, according to the DBM, it's at least, as of August of 2026, this would be the figure, 2214 02:31:22,280 --> 02:31:29,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 20 billion, 59 million, 488 million, 612 thousand. 2215 02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:38,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ang sinasabi po ninyo, walang binalik na saraw ng 2025 ang DPWH. 2216 02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:54,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Wala pa daw po, Madam Speaker. As for the DBM? 2217 02:31:54,900 --> 02:31:54,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM? 2218 02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:09,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, there is a disconnect between what you're saying and what was reported during the briefing of DPWH. 2219 02:32:14,340 --> 02:32:23,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. The DBM will supplement this information by submitting the proper documents, Madam Speaker. 2220 02:32:24,520 --> 02:32:29,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But in 2026, meron pong mga saraw na binalik? 2221 02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:42,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, wala. 2222 02:32:45,560 --> 02:32:46,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: None. 2223 02:32:47,260 --> 02:32:51,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: None specifically for DPWH, as of, for the 2026 projects. 2224 02:32:52,400 --> 02:32:53,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For other departments? 2225 02:32:53,260 --> 02:32:53,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For other departments. 2226 02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:01,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For the other departments, Madam Speaker, yes. 2227 02:33:02,220 --> 02:33:06,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There have been, there should have been a return. 2228 02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:09,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 2229 02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:13,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, these are various agencies. 2230 02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:16,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, I'll just start alphabetically. 2231 02:33:16,920 --> 02:33:22,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The Department of Agriculture, 742 billion. 2232 02:33:22,760 --> 02:33:23,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay lang. 2233 02:33:23,900 --> 02:33:26,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How about the continuing for 2025? 2234 02:33:26,180 --> 02:33:27,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Million. I'm so sorry. Million. 2235 02:33:28,060 --> 02:33:28,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung continuing po. 2236 02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:30,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For 2025. 2237 02:33:32,080 --> 02:33:33,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And DPWH. 2238 02:33:43,160 --> 02:33:43,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: My time, please. 2239 02:33:45,400 --> 02:33:50,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for the continuing for 2025, this 2025. 2240 02:33:54,460 --> 02:33:54,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 2241 02:33:54,900 --> 02:33:57,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's 20 billion, 2242 02:33:57,400 --> 02:34:00,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 59,488,612. 2243 02:34:00,840 --> 02:34:03,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Which was offered in 2026. 2244 02:34:06,420 --> 02:34:08,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Suspended? 2245 02:34:09,020 --> 02:34:11,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What was the basis? 2246 02:34:12,020 --> 02:34:14,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It... 2247 02:34:14,940 --> 02:34:19,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: final discontinuance. 2248 02:34:24,760 --> 02:34:27,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ... 2249 02:34:28,620 --> 02:34:39,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the basis for, it goes to savings, 2250 02:34:39,600 --> 02:34:46,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's 20,059,488,612. 2251 02:34:47,100 --> 02:34:48,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a mix of all. 2252 02:34:48,660 --> 02:34:50,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a combination of all of the different grounds, 2253 02:34:50,900 --> 02:34:53,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so completion, final discontinuance, abandonment. 2254 02:34:56,020 --> 02:34:56,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Discontinuance. 2255 02:34:56,880 --> 02:34:58,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Improved systems and efficiency. 2256 02:34:58,620 --> 02:35:02,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May we have per project? 2257 02:35:06,060 --> 02:35:08,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, for all projects, Madam Speaker. 2258 02:35:08,480 --> 02:35:09,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the DBM will comply. 2259 02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:13,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what was the basis for declaring it a savings? 2260 02:35:15,980 --> 02:35:18,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's the agency certification. 2261 02:35:19,260 --> 02:35:20,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, the agency head has a certification. 2262 02:35:20,940 --> 02:35:26,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: An agency certification indicating that all these projects were discontinued or abandoned? 2263 02:35:28,620 --> 02:35:35,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, they should have if they were discontinued or they got reverted to savings. 2264 02:35:35,900 --> 02:35:36,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And you have that document? 2265 02:35:40,460 --> 02:35:44,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a voluminous set of documents. 2266 02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:46,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, it's a project by project. 2267 02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:48,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a line by line of all projects. 2268 02:35:48,520 --> 02:35:53,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But the DBM has it on file and will send either a hard copy or a soft copy. 2269 02:35:54,260 --> 02:35:54,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Did you verify? 2270 02:35:54,920 --> 02:35:56,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Did you verify? 2271 02:35:56,300 --> 02:35:57,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Did you verify that the projects were? 2272 02:35:57,980 --> 02:36:07,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Actually, qualified under the NBC 603 and the rules for savings? 2273 02:36:12,140 --> 02:36:20,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It would be the certification of the head of the agency, 2274 02:36:21,140 --> 02:36:27,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which would assure that it would fall in any of these categories, Madam Speaker. 2275 02:36:27,100 --> 02:36:27,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay. 2276 02:36:27,980 --> 02:36:30,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung i-certify po nila, hindi nyo na kailangan i-validate? 2277 02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:35,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, yes. 2278 02:36:35,820 --> 02:36:38,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, it would fall. 2279 02:36:38,260 --> 02:36:42,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The responsibility of the certification would fall with the agency head. 2280 02:36:44,840 --> 02:36:48,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pero shouldn't we at least validate? 2281 02:36:50,180 --> 02:36:56,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi, paano natin malalaman kung talagang nag-fall under the provision for savings? 2282 02:36:57,980 --> 02:37:04,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how do we now make sure na hindi ito manufactured savings? 2283 02:37:04,300 --> 02:37:27,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, at least on the part of the DBM, the current status quo is that the DBM just verifies with the status of obligation in the financial reports for the particular projects. 2284 02:37:27,660 --> 02:37:28,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Let me give you an example. 2285 02:37:29,960 --> 02:37:32,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron po tayo mga sinuspend na project. 2286 02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:35,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Katulad ng multi-purpose building, halimbawa. 2287 02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:39,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yun ang nakalagay dun sa project description or line item. 2288 02:37:40,020 --> 02:37:45,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos, kasama siya dun sa sinuspend natin and then eventually ginawa nating saving. 2289 02:37:46,800 --> 02:37:53,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano ang dahilan para isama natin yung para maging discontinued or 2290 02:37:53,880 --> 02:37:54,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: um, 2291 02:37:54,280 --> 02:38:01,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: para ma-discontinue yung katulad nung project na yun habang na-bid out yun. 2292 02:38:02,580 --> 02:38:03,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos, 2293 02:38:05,940 --> 02:38:07,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: short of award, na-bid out siya. 2294 02:38:14,700 --> 02:38:19,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With that particular situation, Madam Speaker, 2295 02:38:20,100 --> 02:38:24,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, the DBM has not, again, has not invoked the suspension. 2296 02:38:24,280 --> 02:38:26,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Under Section 38. 2297 02:38:27,420 --> 02:38:30,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But, at least with that, probably what happened was that 2298 02:38:30,760 --> 02:38:34,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the head of the agency gave the certification that it's, 2299 02:38:35,220 --> 02:38:38,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it falls within these conditions. 2300 02:38:39,260 --> 02:38:45,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But, but, but isn't it also the obligation of DBM to make sure that 2301 02:38:45,700 --> 02:38:52,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ito pong rules natin for declaring savings is being followed? 2302 02:38:54,280 --> 02:39:00,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: If hindi po natin i-validate, then we can just manufacture savings. 2303 02:39:01,540 --> 02:39:08,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And it will be very convenient para sa inyo, nagagamitin niyo yung pondo. 2304 02:39:10,860 --> 02:39:13,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kaya hindi na lang natin iti-check. 2305 02:39:18,460 --> 02:39:22,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For the information of the Honorable Nazal, Madam Speaker, 2306 02:39:22,860 --> 02:39:28,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the basis for that, for relying on the certification of the heads of agencies, 2307 02:39:28,620 --> 02:39:33,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particularly with the discontinuance and all of that, 2308 02:39:33,620 --> 02:39:42,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is that they have that mandate under EO 219 as of now. 2309 02:39:43,720 --> 02:39:49,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that's the reason why we're relying on the certifications by the heads of agencies. 2310 02:39:50,200 --> 02:39:52,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But, but I thought, as you mentioned, 2311 02:39:52,860 --> 02:39:58,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: earlier, hindi pa natin ini-invoke yung Section 38. 2312 02:39:59,620 --> 02:40:05,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, no. This is Section 51, Chapter 9, Subtitle B, Title 1. 2313 02:40:05,160 --> 02:40:05,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, it's a different section. 2314 02:40:07,060 --> 02:40:10,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is particularly for the certification of, 2315 02:40:10,720 --> 02:40:15,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by the heads of agencies regarding the final discontinuance continuation 2316 02:40:15,440 --> 02:40:17,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that would revert it back to savings. 2317 02:40:17,100 --> 02:40:21,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, you're saying, Madam Chair, Madam Sponsor, 2318 02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:22,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that DPWA, 2319 02:40:22,860 --> 02:40:29,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: with the head of the agency, 2320 02:40:29,400 --> 02:40:31,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: can just identify projects, 2321 02:40:32,280 --> 02:40:34,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sabihin na ito ay discontinued, 2322 02:40:34,940 --> 02:40:36,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: at hindi na natin malalaman kung totoo ito. 2323 02:40:38,180 --> 02:40:39,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And we have no way of knowing. 2324 02:40:42,420 --> 02:40:45,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos, ililipat nyo yung pondo sa ibang proyekto, 2325 02:40:47,040 --> 02:40:49,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tapos i-augment natin kasi na-declare na natin na saving. 2326 02:40:51,540 --> 02:40:52,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Aren't we already, 2327 02:40:52,860 --> 02:40:55,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: bastardizing the GAA? 2328 02:40:57,660 --> 02:41:01,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, based on, well, existing, well, 2329 02:41:01,800 --> 02:41:03,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: existing guidelines, 2330 02:41:04,540 --> 02:41:09,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and also as prescribed by EO 292, Section 51, 2331 02:41:10,520 --> 02:41:13,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it would be the head of agency. 2332 02:41:14,700 --> 02:41:17,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Maybe partly the rationale for that is because 2333 02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:19,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they would know whether or not, 2334 02:41:19,940 --> 02:41:21,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they had the technical expertise, 2335 02:41:21,480 --> 02:41:22,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and they have all of the technical knowledge. 2336 02:41:22,360 --> 02:41:22,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But they should, 2337 02:41:22,720 --> 02:41:22,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they should talk to the director, right? 2338 02:41:22,840 --> 02:41:26,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But we should have a system of checks and balances. 2339 02:41:29,480 --> 02:41:34,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Because if we will say that it is not our obligation to double check, 2340 02:41:35,020 --> 02:41:37,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: then any agency can do this arbitrarily. 2341 02:41:43,460 --> 02:41:48,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Then whatever is passed in the GAA na pinasapu natin ng Kongreso, 2342 02:41:48,700 --> 02:41:49,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pwedeng palit-palitan na lang. 2343 02:41:49,940 --> 02:41:52,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2344 02:41:52,900 --> 02:41:58,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We recognize the, and we also, we're one with the concerns of the Honorable Nazal. 2345 02:41:59,300 --> 02:42:01,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Particularly with EO 292, 2346 02:42:03,000 --> 02:42:06,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, the DBM submits to the wisdom of Congress. 2347 02:42:06,700 --> 02:42:12,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So we can amend this actually so that we put safeguards in place. 2348 02:42:12,640 --> 02:42:19,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What safeguards can DBM introduce para po masigurado na hindi po mangyayari? 2349 02:42:42,420 --> 02:42:46,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, at least on the part of the DBM, 2350 02:42:47,400 --> 02:42:49,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DBM assures this, 2351 02:42:49,940 --> 02:42:58,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this chamber that it has been stringently abiding by all of the laws, 2352 02:42:58,760 --> 02:43:03,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: all of those prescribed by Supreme Court decisions and all existing laws. 2353 02:43:03,400 --> 02:43:07,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But particularly with this, the treatment of savings, 2354 02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:13,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the treatment of certifications for particular projects, 2355 02:43:14,720 --> 02:43:19,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DBM submits to further amendments to the law. 2356 02:43:19,940 --> 02:43:22,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As is relevant. 2357 02:43:22,380 --> 02:43:28,940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you please submit a list kung ano po yung mga project na sinertify, 2358 02:43:29,900 --> 02:43:33,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tapos diniklare natin as savings, saan po napunta? 2359 02:43:33,880 --> 02:43:37,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Saan, ano po yung mga augmentation na pinuntahan 2360 02:43:37,540 --> 02:43:40,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng mga pondo na diniklare natin as savings? 2361 02:43:41,560 --> 02:43:43,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we will submit, Madam Speaker. 2362 02:43:44,520 --> 02:43:44,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: When? 2363 02:43:49,940 --> 02:44:00,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM commits Thursday, Madam Speaker. 2364 02:44:01,120 --> 02:44:02,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kasi Wednesday na daw po. 2365 02:44:03,900 --> 02:44:04,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thursday? 2366 02:44:05,060 --> 02:44:05,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thursday. 2367 02:44:06,200 --> 02:44:08,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So tomorrow, Madam Speaker. 2368 02:44:08,720 --> 02:44:09,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that. 2369 02:44:10,740 --> 02:44:12,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sek ha, we will expect that. 2370 02:44:14,520 --> 02:44:18,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And may I go to my next question, Madam Chair? 2371 02:44:18,480 --> 02:44:21,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: After we have everything we have just discussed 2372 02:44:21,700 --> 02:44:24,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: about return sa ROS savings and augmentation, 2373 02:44:26,180 --> 02:44:29,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang tanong ko po, bakit wala po sa 2027 NEP 2374 02:44:29,800 --> 02:44:32,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang chapter on overall savings? 2375 02:44:33,020 --> 02:44:35,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dati po, hanggang 2023, 2376 02:44:36,200 --> 02:44:39,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for many years, the NEP showed overall savings, 2377 02:44:39,740 --> 02:44:42,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: how much savings were generated and where they went. 2378 02:44:43,060 --> 02:44:45,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It reappeared in 2022 and 2023, 2379 02:44:46,220 --> 02:44:47,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and then disappeared again. 2380 02:44:47,960 --> 02:44:48,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Why? 2381 02:44:48,480 --> 02:44:52,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the DBM, Madam Speaker, 2382 02:44:52,820 --> 02:44:57,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that's not allowed, the pooling of overall savings. 2383 02:44:58,760 --> 02:44:59,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Existing laws... 2384 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But we should have all the data available to us. 2385 02:45:05,280 --> 02:45:13,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi po pwedeng dapat, meron, dati nire-reflect natin sa report, tapos kung kailan lang natin gusto i-reflect, doon lang natin i-re-reflect. 2386 02:45:24,260 --> 02:45:28,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ang sinasabi ko po, dapat consistent po tayo. 2387 02:45:28,160 --> 02:45:37,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So this is information that is vital to us making a decision for Congress to be able to pass the GAA. 2388 02:45:38,840 --> 02:45:42,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ano yung mga savings, yung overall savings ng lahat ng departments? 2389 02:45:42,860 --> 02:45:45,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dati nire-reflect po natin yung to and from. 2390 02:45:47,160 --> 02:45:47,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: We need that. 2391 02:45:50,700 --> 02:45:51,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pwede po bang ibalik? 2392 02:45:58,160 --> 02:46:13,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, particularly with overall savings, the establishment of overall savings, apparently that is under the Bayanihan Law, which allowed the pooling of overall savings. 2393 02:46:13,700 --> 02:46:16,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But in general, that's not allowed. 2394 02:46:18,160 --> 02:46:21,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang sinasabi, ang hinihingi lang naman po natin, yung dating nire-report natin. 2395 02:46:21,480 --> 02:46:24,260 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to remind Representative Nazal that his time has already expired. 2396 02:46:24,260 --> 02:46:25,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes, Madam Chair. 2397 02:46:25,940 --> 02:46:28,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang hinihingi lang, kailangan lang po natin i-clarify. 2398 02:46:28,160 --> 02:46:30,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi hindi pa nila nasasagot yung tanong. 2399 02:46:30,820 --> 02:46:34,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ang hinihingi lang po natin is yung report. 2400 02:46:34,940 --> 02:46:36,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dati naman nire-report. 2401 02:46:36,680 --> 02:46:37,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pwede po ba natin ibalik? 2402 02:46:38,220 --> 02:46:42,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi because this is vital to us making a decision. 2403 02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:45,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bakit natin tinatago ngayon? 2404 02:46:46,240 --> 02:46:48,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pwede naman yan i-reflect sa NEP? 2405 02:46:53,000 --> 02:46:57,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM, Madam Speaker, will submit. 2406 02:46:57,500 --> 02:46:58,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's committed to submission. 2407 02:46:58,160 --> 02:46:59,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's committed to submit this report. 2408 02:47:00,100 --> 02:47:02,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, it's not part of the NEP. 2409 02:47:03,740 --> 02:47:09,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kaya nga po, baka pwedeng isama na sa NEP every year sa submission ng NEP. 2410 02:47:12,100 --> 02:47:14,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dati namang meron, binabalik lang natin. 2411 02:47:31,360 --> 02:47:33,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Up to 2023, meron namang po tayo niyan. 2412 02:47:42,500 --> 02:47:46,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 2413 02:47:48,540 --> 02:47:58,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM will study, but as of now, the stand is that the DBM can't create a... 2414 02:47:58,160 --> 02:47:59,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: chapter on overall savings. 2415 02:47:59,660 --> 02:48:01,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we do not have that information? 2416 02:48:07,480 --> 02:48:08,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM will study. 2417 02:48:09,040 --> 02:48:10,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Will assess. 2418 02:48:10,740 --> 02:48:12,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But there is a report. 2419 02:48:13,460 --> 02:48:18,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And the DBM will publish a copy to the Honorable Nazal. 2420 02:48:19,140 --> 02:48:23,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That is a very simple report which was included up to 2023. 2421 02:48:23,600 --> 02:48:27,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yan yung chapter on overall savings. 2422 02:48:28,160 --> 02:48:31,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, yun lang po ang hinihingi natin na i-restore natin yun. 2423 02:48:31,160 --> 02:48:31,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ibalik natin. 2424 02:48:32,740 --> 02:48:34,600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Will the DBM submit to that? 2425 02:48:35,980 --> 02:48:39,780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is vital information that should be shared with Congress every time. 2426 02:48:47,040 --> 02:48:51,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi ko maintindihan bakit kailangan natin pag-isipan pa. 2427 02:48:51,980 --> 02:48:53,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay. 2428 02:48:58,160 --> 02:49:03,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM will study, yes. 2429 02:49:04,240 --> 02:49:06,440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Will study or comply? 2430 02:49:07,940 --> 02:49:11,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: No, ah, well... 2431 02:49:35,500 --> 02:49:56,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Napakahira po bang i-share yung information? 2432 02:49:56,400 --> 02:49:58,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung ano yung savings? 2433 02:49:58,120 --> 02:50:01,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng bawat ahensya at saan in-augment yung pondo na ito? 2434 02:50:05,500 --> 02:50:07,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is it that difficult? 2435 02:50:07,140 --> 02:50:11,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to summarize and to clarify, Madam Speaker. 2436 02:50:11,800 --> 02:50:21,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The reason why there was a chapter on overall savings in the 2023 NEP is because it was prescribed under Bayanihan Law. 2437 02:50:22,960 --> 02:50:26,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that's the only reason why it was there as a chapter. 2438 02:50:26,440 --> 02:50:26,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 2439 02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:27,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But... 2440 02:50:27,920 --> 02:50:30,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That's because it's prescribed by the Bayanihan Law. 2441 02:50:30,200 --> 02:50:33,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that could be... 2442 02:50:33,340 --> 02:50:40,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Even before Bayanihan, Madam Sponsor, meron pong reports on overall savings. 2443 02:50:40,960 --> 02:50:41,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung to and from. 2444 02:50:42,620 --> 02:50:46,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung saan, saan, saan nang galing, saan pumunta. 2445 02:50:47,260 --> 02:50:48,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron tayong report niyan. 2446 02:50:48,500 --> 02:50:50,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi lang after, hindi lang during Bayanihan. 2447 02:50:51,240 --> 02:50:52,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bayanihan was 2021, ha? 2448 02:50:53,980 --> 02:50:57,900 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to respectfully remind Representative Nazal that his... 2449 02:50:57,900 --> 02:51:00,020 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: his time has already expired to interpolate. 2450 02:51:03,120 --> 02:51:06,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, can I just ask for a report on the savings? 2451 02:51:06,720 --> 02:51:06,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 2452 02:51:07,500 --> 02:51:08,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2453 02:51:09,400 --> 02:51:10,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Madam Chair. 2454 02:51:10,780 --> 02:51:12,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Madam Sponsor. 2455 02:51:12,320 --> 02:51:14,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Majority Leader. 2456 02:51:15,940 --> 02:51:24,740 Floor Leader: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative JC M. Abalos for his interpellation. 2457 02:51:25,210 --> 02:51:27,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative JC Abalos from 4Ps Party-list 2458 02:51:27,900 --> 02:51:29,960 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is now recognized for his interpellation. 2459 02:51:32,600 --> 02:51:35,660 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, 2460 02:51:36,280 --> 02:51:42,960 Rep. JC M. Abalos: sa ahensya ng DBM at sa kanyang mga attached agency sa pangunguna ni Secretary Kim De Leon, 2461 02:51:43,120 --> 02:51:45,000 Rep. JC M. Abalos: magandang umaga po. 2462 02:51:45,820 --> 02:51:47,800 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Dahil inabot na po tayo ng madaling araw, 2463 02:51:47,900 --> 02:51:50,740 Rep. JC M. Abalos: dadiretso na po ako, Madam Speaker, sa aking mga katanungan 2464 02:51:50,740 --> 02:51:57,760 Rep. JC M. Abalos: at nakatoon po ito sa budget ng 4P's program for year 2027. 2465 02:51:57,900 --> 02:51:59,860 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, for the record po, Madam Speaker, 2466 02:52:00,420 --> 02:52:06,900 Rep. JC M. Abalos: pwede po ba namin malaman kung ano ang proposed budget allocation para sa 4P's for year 2027? 2467 02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:13,600 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At pwede po bang i-confirm ng ating sponsor na nabawasan po ang pondong ito 2468 02:52:13,600 --> 02:52:18,340 Rep. JC M. Abalos: from around 113 billion last year to 99 billion? 2469 02:52:27,900 --> 02:52:45,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for 2027, under the 2027 NEP, 2470 02:52:45,820 --> 02:52:48,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the allocation would be 99 billion. 2471 02:52:48,520 --> 02:52:55,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The decrease as per the DBM would be attributed to a decrease in the number of beneficiaries. 2472 02:52:55,620 --> 02:52:57,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Because fortunately, 2473 02:52:57,900 --> 02:53:00,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: At least some of them have graduated from the four-piece program. 2474 02:53:01,480 --> 02:53:06,420 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, to confirm po, Madam Speaker, ayon po ba sa ating distinguished sponsor pati sa DBM, 2475 02:53:06,980 --> 02:53:15,620 Rep. JC M. Abalos: ang primary driver sa budget decrease ay ang changes in the number of beneficiary households. 2476 02:53:15,740 --> 02:53:16,540 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Can we get a confirmation? 2477 02:53:17,880 --> 02:53:18,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2478 02:53:18,820 --> 02:53:26,540 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And is it true po, Madam Speaker, that for many years, government maintained a target of approximately 4.4 million households 2479 02:53:26,540 --> 02:53:34,860 Rep. JC M. Abalos: and now we understand that the number of households is being brought down to 3.5 million. 2480 02:53:35,040 --> 02:53:40,280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, gusto ko po malaman, Madam Speaker, kung ano yung empirical basis para sa 3.5 million figure. 2481 02:53:40,280 --> 02:53:49,900 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Is it based on PSA poverty statistics, CBMS data, proxy means test, projected graduation of existing beneficiaries? 2482 02:53:50,420 --> 02:53:56,280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Ano po ba ang empirical basis at ang primary driver kung bakit po natin pinababa to 3.5 million? 2483 02:53:56,540 --> 02:54:01,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I guess, Madam Speaker, that is correct. 2484 02:54:02,040 --> 02:54:06,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, from 4.4 million households, now it's at 3.5 million. 2485 02:54:07,580 --> 02:54:18,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The 3.5 million level is from the most updated version of the listahanan, from the DSWD, Madam Speaker. 2486 02:54:19,580 --> 02:54:25,240 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Madam Speaker, kanina nung pinapag-usapan po natin ang budget ng DepDev, binanggit ko po ang CBMS. 2487 02:54:26,540 --> 02:54:35,820 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, was the DBM informed na hindi na po natin ginagamit ng listahanan mula nung nagkaroon na po tayo ng CBMS? 2488 02:54:36,240 --> 02:54:47,520 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, sinasabi po ba ng ating distinguished sponsor na ang batayan ng 3.5 million households ay nakabatay pa rin sa listahanan na isinagawa nung nakalipas ng ilang taon na po? 2489 02:54:47,700 --> 02:54:50,940 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Lumang datos na po yun. CBMS na po tayo ngayon, Madam Speaker. 2490 02:54:50,940 --> 02:54:56,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, Madam Speaker, 2491 02:54:56,540 --> 02:55:03,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we're still using listahanan, but now there's a feedback mechanism with the CBMS. 2492 02:55:04,020 --> 02:55:14,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Once it's fully rolled out, well, it's already fully rolled out, but now we're matching between the listahanan and the... 2493 02:55:15,820 --> 02:55:21,920 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Okay. So, Madam Speaker, para lang po malinaw, habang nandito pa po ang mga kasamahan natin mula sa DepDev, 2494 02:55:21,920 --> 02:55:24,120 Rep. JC M. Abalos: pwede rin silang kausapin ng DBM kung gusto nila. 2495 02:55:24,620 --> 02:55:25,920 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Sa aking pagkakaintindi, meron po tayong... 2496 02:55:26,540 --> 02:55:30,020 Rep. JC M. Abalos: around 3 million active households under the 4-piece program. 2497 02:55:30,160 --> 02:55:36,560 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Meron ba tayong breakdown sa 3 million na ito kung ilan dyan ang galing sa listahanan at ilan dyan ang nanggaling sa CBMS? 2498 02:55:38,380 --> 02:55:46,460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And could the DBM also confirm, ayon po sa DSWD mismo, may higit 100,000 households tayo subject to validation 2499 02:55:46,460 --> 02:55:52,060 Rep. JC M. Abalos: dahil may mga pamilya na hindi mahanap sa CBMS na nasa listahanan dati. 2500 02:55:52,060 --> 02:55:55,980 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, pwede po ba tayong magkaroon ng kalinawan mula sa DBM? 2501 02:55:55,980 --> 02:56:08,460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Kung paano tayo nag-come up with a new number of household beneficiary targets while at the same time considering na hindi na po listahanan ang ginagamit ngayon, CBMS na po. 2502 02:56:09,480 --> 02:56:16,640 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At as a matter of fact, nabanggit ko rin po kanina, 5 bilyong piso ang inilaan natin noong 2024 for the CBMS. 2503 02:56:17,180 --> 02:56:24,020 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Sinabi rin po mismo ng DepDev kanina na kompleto na ang kanilang pag-turnover as of this year. 2504 02:56:24,020 --> 02:56:25,820 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At hanggang ngayon, hindi pa rin po yun ang ginagamit. 2505 02:56:25,980 --> 02:56:30,160 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And next year, bibigyan na naman natin ng panibagong 5 bilyon. 2506 02:56:30,520 --> 02:56:33,900 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, ano po talaga? Ano yung breakdown ng active household beneficiaries? 2507 02:56:34,120 --> 02:56:36,520 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Ilan yung galing sa listahanan? Ilan yung galing sa CBMS? 2508 02:56:38,740 --> 02:56:43,180 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And Madam Speaker, gusto ko po ulit malaman, ano yung empirical basis? 2509 02:56:43,880 --> 02:56:49,160 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Poverty statistics ba? Proxy means test ba? Pwede ko po ba malaman, Madam Speaker? 2510 02:56:55,980 --> 02:57:07,020 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And habang inaabangan ko po ang sagot ng ating distinguished sponsor, 2511 02:57:07,920 --> 02:57:12,960 Rep. JC M. Abalos: gusto ko pong malaman kung sino ang nag-determine ng 3.5 million target. 2512 02:57:13,640 --> 02:57:18,320 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Rinekomenda po ba ito ng DSWD, ng DepDev, o ng DBM? 2513 02:57:20,320 --> 02:57:21,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 2514 02:57:21,980 --> 02:57:30,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There's an ongoing reconciliation between the listahanan and the CBMS. 2515 02:57:33,320 --> 02:57:36,660 Rep. JC M. Abalos: How long has the reconciliation been going on for? 2516 02:57:36,980 --> 02:57:40,480 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Considering that the CBMS Act was enacted in 2019, 2517 02:57:41,080 --> 02:57:44,540 Rep. JC M. Abalos: and we conducted a population census in 2024, 2518 02:57:44,540 --> 02:57:50,600 Rep. JC M. Abalos: and we're about to allot another 5 billion peso budget for the CBMS for next year. 2519 02:57:50,800 --> 02:57:51,560 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Okay. 2520 02:57:51,980 --> 02:58:02,580 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Sa totoo lang po, Madam Speaker, ang dami pong pamilya na naka-waitlist sa 4Ps. 2521 02:58:03,140 --> 02:58:08,520 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At sinasabi ko po na napakahalaga po nito dahil ayon po sa pagsusuri ng PIDS, 2522 02:58:09,400 --> 02:58:17,040 Rep. JC M. Abalos: hindi pa po factored in ang Middle East oil crisis kung titignan natin ang ating poverty incidence rate ngayon. 2523 02:58:17,380 --> 02:58:21,860 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Sabi po nila 9.8%, pero naputunayan natin kanina, 2524 02:58:21,980 --> 02:58:30,800 Rep. JC M. Abalos: na yung data collection natin hindi naman siya isinagawa in a consistent basis. 2525 02:58:30,940 --> 02:58:32,700 Rep. JC M. Abalos: In transit siya isinagawa. 2526 02:58:32,900 --> 02:58:38,580 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At dahil po dyan, may mga pag-aaral na maaaring magkaroon ng karagdagang 1.34 billion households 2527 02:58:38,580 --> 02:58:40,900 Rep. JC M. Abalos: na magiging poor or near poor dahil sa crisis. 2528 02:58:41,480 --> 02:58:44,280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So gusto ko po malaman, gano'n nakatagal yung reconciliation? 2529 02:58:44,700 --> 02:58:50,910 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Considering na we already allotted 5 billion for the CBMS in 2024, 2530 02:58:50,910 --> 02:58:54,180 Rep. JC M. Abalos: and we're about to allot another 5 billion next year. 2531 02:58:54,180 --> 02:58:55,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2532 02:58:55,980 --> 02:58:59,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to the 3.5 million level, 2533 02:59:00,000 --> 02:59:04,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DBM defers to the DSWD with regards to that number. 2534 02:59:05,240 --> 02:59:15,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So with the technical details of how the 3.5 million level was arrived at, 2535 02:59:15,280 --> 02:59:20,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that would be better answered by the DSWD. 2536 02:59:20,160 --> 02:59:29,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, at least the goal is that actually there won't be a Listahanan 4 anymore 2537 02:59:29,600 --> 02:59:32,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi na-roll out na yung CBMS. 2538 02:59:33,200 --> 02:59:38,300 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So the reconciliation is still ongoing, but given that... 2539 02:59:38,300 --> 02:59:41,320 Rep. JC M. Abalos: For how many years, Madam Speaker, has the reconciliation been ongoing? 2540 02:59:42,020 --> 02:59:45,000 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Kailan po natin kinonsider na outdated na ang listahanan? 2541 02:59:50,160 --> 02:59:57,220 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At ilang pamilya pa ba ang vina-validate natin from listahanan to CBMS 2542 02:59:57,220 --> 02:59:59,000 Rep. JC M. Abalos: noong nag-transition na tayo to CBMS? 2543 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:03,820 Rep. JC M. Abalos: How many households are still in limbo? Can we find out the number? 2544 03:00:04,560 --> 03:00:13,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Unfortunately, Madam Speaker, the DBM doesn't have details with regards to how long this reconciliation has been taking place. 2545 03:00:19,220 --> 03:00:23,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's the SWD who would have details on it, Madam Speaker. 2546 03:00:23,460 --> 03:00:34,680 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, does the DBM mean to tell us, Madam Speaker, that when we allotted P99 billion for this program, 2547 03:00:35,820 --> 03:00:44,120 Rep. JC M. Abalos: hindi pa po natin na-reconcile ang listahan ng mga prospective beneficiaries, considering na ang dami pang naka-waitlist? 2548 03:00:48,500 --> 03:00:53,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, Madam Speaker, they really defer to the 2549 03:00:53,080 --> 03:00:58,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DSWD with regards to the number of households, as for the level. 2550 03:00:58,740 --> 03:01:07,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, the 3.5 million really was determined by the DSWD, and DBM just considered that for the budget allocation of the four-piece program. 2551 03:01:07,780 --> 03:01:19,540 Rep. JC M. Abalos: For purposes of allotting budget allocations, does the DBM defer to the DSWD or the CBMS data that was supposed to be furnished by the PSA? 2552 03:01:23,460 --> 03:01:39,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, Madam Speaker, it's an implementing agency who would give the level. 2553 03:01:40,240 --> 03:01:48,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, particularly for the four-piece program, since it's the DSWD, it would be the DSW that gives. 2554 03:01:49,200 --> 03:01:52,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, regardless of the source of the data or what the basis is, 2555 03:01:53,460 --> 03:01:56,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it really is the agency proposal. 2556 03:01:56,280 --> 03:02:03,280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: For the information of the DBM as well as its attached agencies, 2557 03:02:05,000 --> 03:02:10,220 Rep. JC M. Abalos: ayon po sa four-piece law, naka-based po sa National Standardized Targeting System. 2558 03:02:10,660 --> 03:02:15,280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: It used to be listahanan, that's correct, at ngayon umaasa na po tayo sa CBMS. 2559 03:02:16,540 --> 03:02:20,680 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At gusto ko lang po malaman, and the DBM can furnish this to us later on, 2560 03:02:21,040 --> 03:02:23,280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: whether it be the DBM or the... 2561 03:02:23,460 --> 03:02:34,080 Rep. JC M. Abalos: DepDev, gusto ko lang po malaman sana what happens today if a household was once identified as poor under listahanan 3, 2562 03:02:34,500 --> 03:02:40,220 Rep. JC M. Abalos: so otherwise qualified for four-piece, waitlisted because there was no available slot, 2563 03:02:41,000 --> 03:02:45,620 Rep. JC M. Abalos: but now cannot be located or matched in the CBMS. 2564 03:02:46,340 --> 03:02:53,340 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Gusto ko lang po malaman from any of our agencies concerned kung meron bang mechanism allowing a family 2565 03:02:53,460 --> 03:02:59,040 Rep. JC M. Abalos: to request inclusion, re-enumeration, or independent value validation, 2566 03:02:59,500 --> 03:03:03,460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: especially if the NEP budget assumes a reduced caseload, 2567 03:03:04,360 --> 03:03:06,260 Rep. JC M. Abalos: kasi based on the budget that we have now. 2568 03:03:06,780 --> 03:03:11,480 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Kaya siya bumaba from 113 billion to 99 billion, at sinabi po ito ng ating sponsor, 2569 03:03:11,960 --> 03:03:13,720 Rep. JC M. Abalos: meron po tayong reduced caseload. 2570 03:03:14,260 --> 03:03:19,460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At nabanggit rin po kanina na may mga pamilya pa po tayo ng four-piece subject to revalidation, 2571 03:03:19,620 --> 03:03:22,460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: kasi nag-transition tayo from listahanan to CBMS. 2572 03:03:23,460 --> 03:03:29,140 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, dahil mag-umaga na, i-request ko na lang po sa ating DBM, pati sa ating sponsor, 2573 03:03:29,260 --> 03:03:36,460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: na baka pwede po tayo i-furnish ng mechanism na kanilang ginagamit pagdating po sa programa ng four-piece. 2574 03:03:37,280 --> 03:03:42,280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Yun lamang po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, maraming salamat at magandang gabi po. 2575 03:03:43,040 --> 03:03:43,340 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Thank you. 2576 03:03:43,360 --> 03:03:43,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Leader. 2577 03:03:49,820 --> 03:03:53,420 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the honor, 2578 03:03:53,460 --> 03:03:55,820 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Antonio Tineo for his interpellation. 2579 03:03:56,200 --> 03:04:02,080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Antonio Tineo of ACT Teachers Party, this is now recognized for his interpellation. 2580 03:04:03,180 --> 03:04:04,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Chair. 2581 03:04:05,320 --> 03:04:06,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last na po yata. 2582 03:04:07,120 --> 03:04:16,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, anyway, again, meron tayong, balik tayo dun sa presentation. 2583 03:04:17,640 --> 03:04:19,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tutal, andito na si Secretary Kim. 2584 03:04:22,140 --> 03:04:23,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Importante po ito. 2585 03:04:23,460 --> 03:04:24,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na marinig niya. 2586 03:04:25,560 --> 03:04:25,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2587 03:04:30,580 --> 03:04:31,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Presentation. 2588 03:04:31,120 --> 03:04:31,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ako. 2589 03:04:32,800 --> 03:04:33,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paki-pause po muna. 2590 03:04:33,980 --> 03:04:34,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa eh. 2591 03:05:41,820 --> 03:05:42,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. 2592 03:05:43,040 --> 03:05:44,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright, so here we go again. 2593 03:05:48,200 --> 03:05:48,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Again, 2594 03:05:49,200 --> 03:05:50,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I showed this earlier. 2595 03:05:50,640 --> 03:05:52,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po yung 10-year 2596 03:05:52,560 --> 03:05:54,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: history ng 2597 03:05:54,960 --> 03:05:55,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MPBF. 2598 03:05:57,660 --> 03:05:58,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As I 2599 03:05:58,800 --> 03:05:59,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pointed out earlier, 2600 03:06:00,940 --> 03:06:04,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: especially under the 2601 03:06:04,420 --> 03:06:06,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marcos administration, this administration 2602 03:06:06,580 --> 03:06:08,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naging paboritong target po 2603 03:06:08,760 --> 03:06:09,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito ng 2604 03:06:09,300 --> 03:06:13,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reduction. 2605 03:06:15,060 --> 03:06:15,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, 2606 03:06:16,080 --> 03:06:17,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagamit daw na source. 2607 03:06:17,860 --> 03:06:19,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Source of funding 2608 03:06:19,760 --> 03:06:21,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for congressional 2609 03:06:21,800 --> 03:06:22,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: insertion. 2610 03:06:22,560 --> 03:06:24,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Very clearly, 2611 03:06:24,560 --> 03:06:26,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: especially in the years 2612 03:06:26,560 --> 03:06:27,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2023, 2613 03:06:27,560 --> 03:06:28,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 24, 2614 03:06:28,560 --> 03:06:29,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 25, 2615 03:06:29,560 --> 03:06:30,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 26. 2616 03:06:30,560 --> 03:06:31,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, 2617 03:06:31,560 --> 03:06:32,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, 2618 03:06:32,560 --> 03:06:34,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: my purpose here is to 2619 03:06:34,560 --> 03:06:36,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: point this out and call it out. 2620 03:06:36,560 --> 03:06:42,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dapat itigil na yung ganyang modus. 2621 03:06:42,560 --> 03:06:46,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In the same way na dapat hindi na rin gawin yan 2622 03:06:46,560 --> 03:06:50,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa DOTR Foreign Assisted Project 2623 03:06:50,560 --> 03:06:52,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and other foreign assisted projects. 2624 03:06:52,560 --> 03:07:02,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But, now my question to the DBM is, yun nga, with regard to the MPBF, proposed MPBF for 2027, 2625 03:07:02,560 --> 03:07:07,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: amounting to 55 billion, no? 2626 03:07:07,560 --> 03:07:10,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I raised it during the budget briefing pero, 2627 03:07:10,560 --> 03:07:20,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi po ba, please confirm, na kasama po sa proposal nyo, yung plano na finally, after, 2628 03:07:20,560 --> 03:07:25,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: after, 2629 03:07:25,560 --> 03:07:27,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 17 years, 2630 03:07:27,560 --> 03:07:30,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: since 2009, 2631 03:07:30,560 --> 03:07:31,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay, 2632 03:07:31,560 --> 03:07:33,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magkakaroon na ng increase sa 2633 03:07:33,560 --> 03:07:36,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: personnel economic relief allowance. 2634 03:07:36,560 --> 03:07:41,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 2,000 a month na 2635 03:07:41,560 --> 03:07:43,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: allowance, 2636 03:07:43,560 --> 03:07:48,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: like a cost of living allowance for all government personnel. 2637 03:07:48,560 --> 03:07:49,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi ba, about time, 2638 03:07:49,560 --> 03:07:51,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat na pong taasan ito. 2639 03:07:51,560 --> 03:07:54,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Considering, 2640 03:07:54,560 --> 03:07:57,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may economic crisis 2641 03:07:57,560 --> 03:08:00,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at kailangang matulungan 2642 03:08:00,560 --> 03:08:03,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ating mga 2643 03:08:03,560 --> 03:08:06,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government employees, 2644 03:08:06,560 --> 03:08:09,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malaking bahagi sila nung mga low, 2645 03:08:09,560 --> 03:08:11,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lower, 2646 03:08:11,560 --> 03:08:13,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lower income earners, 2647 03:08:13,560 --> 03:08:14,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumbaga, 2648 03:08:14,560 --> 03:08:16,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa bansa. So, 2649 03:08:16,560 --> 03:08:18,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama po ba sa proposal, 2650 03:08:19,560 --> 03:08:22,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o ito po ba ang pagkukuna nung posibleng pagtaas 2651 03:08:22,560 --> 03:08:25,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng personnel economic relief allowance? 2652 03:08:33,560 --> 03:08:37,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: No final amount as of now, as per the increase, Madam Speaker. 2653 03:08:37,560 --> 03:08:40,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, pakiulit po. 2654 03:08:45,560 --> 03:08:47,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There is no final amount as of now. 2655 03:08:47,560 --> 03:08:49,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No final amount. Pero, 2656 03:08:49,560 --> 03:08:51,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumbaga, meron ng, 2657 03:08:51,560 --> 03:08:53,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumbaga, nasa plano na, 2658 03:08:53,560 --> 03:08:55,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na magkaroon ng increase. 2659 03:08:55,560 --> 03:08:57,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, a portion of it, Madam Speaker. 2660 03:08:57,560 --> 03:08:59,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, definitely, 2661 03:08:59,560 --> 03:09:02,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increase in pera by 2027. 2662 03:09:02,560 --> 03:09:05,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ang plano dito sa proposal, correct? 2663 03:09:05,560 --> 03:09:07,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2664 03:09:07,560 --> 03:09:09,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. O yan, categorical, clear. 2665 03:09:09,560 --> 03:09:11,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Finally, 2666 03:09:11,560 --> 03:09:13,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: after 2667 03:09:13,560 --> 03:09:15,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 17 years, 2668 03:09:15,560 --> 03:09:18,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this administration will 2669 03:09:18,560 --> 03:09:20,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increase the pera 2670 03:09:20,560 --> 03:09:23,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa lahat ng mga government employees na nakikinig. 2671 03:09:23,560 --> 03:09:25,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napakagandang balita po niyan. 2672 03:09:25,560 --> 03:09:27,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, malinaw din po sinabi, 2673 03:09:27,560 --> 03:09:29,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no final amount yet. Okay. 2674 03:09:29,560 --> 03:09:32,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The source is the 55 billion 2675 03:09:32,560 --> 03:09:34,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MPBF. 2676 03:09:34,560 --> 03:09:35,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct? 2677 03:09:35,560 --> 03:09:37,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. And, 2678 03:09:37,560 --> 03:09:39,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: roughly, 2679 03:09:39,560 --> 03:09:43,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for every 1,000 peso increase in pera, 2680 03:09:43,560 --> 03:09:45,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magkano po ang kailangan? 2681 03:09:47,560 --> 03:09:49,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 24 billion. 2682 03:09:49,560 --> 03:09:51,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 24 billion. 2683 03:09:51,560 --> 03:09:53,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, para sa ordinaryong, 2684 03:09:53,560 --> 03:09:55,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa lahat ng mga empleyado ng gobyerno, 2685 03:09:55,560 --> 03:09:56,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig sabihin na, 2686 03:09:56,560 --> 03:09:59,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag tinaasa natin ng 1,000 pesos ang pera, 2687 03:09:59,560 --> 03:10:01,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that's 1,000 pesos per month. 2688 03:10:01,560 --> 03:10:04,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in a year, that would mean an additional, 2689 03:10:04,560 --> 03:10:06,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 2690 03:10:06,560 --> 03:10:11,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: additional take-home pay of 12,000 in a year. 2691 03:10:11,560 --> 03:10:12,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At tama po ba? 2692 03:10:12,560 --> 03:10:16,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayon sa batas at mga patakaran, 2693 03:10:16,560 --> 03:10:18,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi tinataks yun. 2694 03:10:18,560 --> 03:10:20,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct? 2695 03:10:20,560 --> 03:10:21,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 2696 03:10:21,560 --> 03:10:22,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pera is not taxable. 2697 03:10:22,560 --> 03:10:24,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pera is not taxed. 2698 03:10:24,560 --> 03:10:26,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, makukuha ng buo yun. 2699 03:10:26,560 --> 03:10:28,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kunyari, 2700 03:10:28,560 --> 03:10:30,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tinaas ng 1,000, 2701 03:10:30,560 --> 03:10:33,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that's additional 12,000 2702 03:10:33,560 --> 03:10:34,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 2703 03:10:34,560 --> 03:10:36,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in a year. No? 2704 03:10:36,560 --> 03:10:38,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 24,000 for that. 2705 03:10:38,560 --> 03:10:40,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That's 2 million 2706 03:10:40,560 --> 03:10:41,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, government employees, 2707 03:10:41,560 --> 03:10:45,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,000 a month times 12, 2708 03:10:45,560 --> 03:10:49,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya naging 24,000 po, ah, 24 billion. 2709 03:10:49,560 --> 03:10:50,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2710 03:10:50,560 --> 03:10:53,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, we have 55 billion in the MPDF. 2711 03:10:53,560 --> 03:10:56,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, theoretically, 2712 03:10:56,560 --> 03:11:01,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, up to at least 2,000 pesos a month 2713 03:11:01,560 --> 03:11:03,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may be accommodated. 2714 03:11:03,560 --> 03:11:07,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 24 times 2, 48 billion. 2715 03:11:07,560 --> 03:11:09,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 2716 03:11:09,560 --> 03:11:10,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct? 2717 03:11:10,560 --> 03:11:11,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2718 03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:12,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct. 2719 03:11:12,560 --> 03:11:13,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oo. 2720 03:11:18,560 --> 03:11:21,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero marami pa daw pong kinukuha sa MPDF. 2721 03:11:21,560 --> 03:11:22,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marami pang kinukuha. 2722 03:11:22,560 --> 03:11:23,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As for the DBM. 2723 03:11:23,560 --> 03:11:24,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige, for example, 2724 03:11:24,560 --> 03:11:26,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: please, kasi nga lump sum po yan eh. 2725 03:11:26,560 --> 03:11:28,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po yung iba pang mga pwedeng kunin? 2726 03:11:37,560 --> 03:11:39,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, ah, 2727 03:11:39,560 --> 03:11:43,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ito pa po yung mga kinukuha from the MPDF. 2728 03:11:43,560 --> 03:11:44,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, 2729 03:11:44,560 --> 03:11:45,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: overtime pay, 2730 03:11:45,560 --> 03:11:46,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, 2731 03:11:46,560 --> 03:11:48,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: PBB, 2732 03:11:48,560 --> 03:11:51,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, 2733 03:11:51,560 --> 03:11:53,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: creation of new positions, 2734 03:11:53,560 --> 03:11:54,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, 2735 03:11:54,560 --> 03:11:55,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: all of this. 2736 03:11:55,560 --> 03:11:56,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, may, ah, 2737 03:11:56,560 --> 03:11:58,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: could we have the amount, 2738 03:11:58,560 --> 03:11:59,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 2739 03:11:59,560 --> 03:12:00,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that are, 2740 03:12:00,560 --> 03:12:01,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 2741 03:12:01,560 --> 03:12:02,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: set aside 2742 03:12:02,560 --> 03:12:05,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for those particular, 2743 03:12:05,560 --> 03:12:06,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 2744 03:12:06,560 --> 03:12:08,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: item? 2745 03:12:27,560 --> 03:12:28,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 2746 03:12:28,560 --> 03:12:29,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: what we have on file 2747 03:12:29,560 --> 03:12:30,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: now are just indicative amounts? 2748 03:12:30,560 --> 03:12:31,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, 2749 03:12:31,560 --> 03:12:32,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we understand indicative, 2750 03:12:33,840 --> 03:12:35,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na subject to 2751 03:12:35,720 --> 03:12:37,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: adjustment. 2752 03:12:38,560 --> 03:12:42,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, please, please share the indicative amount. 2753 03:12:44,100 --> 03:12:47,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 55 billion na yan, merong mga yan, di ba? 2754 03:12:50,000 --> 03:12:53,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Indicative spending level. 2755 03:12:53,820 --> 03:12:55,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, with the indulgence of Honorable Tino. 2756 03:12:56,080 --> 03:12:59,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For funding requirement for the filling of vacancies, 2757 03:12:59,060 --> 03:13:08,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: indicative amount would be 12,623,712,000. 2758 03:13:09,100 --> 03:13:15,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For FBI, so performance-based incentive, 21.82 billion. 2759 03:13:16,380 --> 03:13:19,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Legal defense fund, 200 million. 2760 03:13:20,140 --> 03:13:22,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For the payment of other personal benefits, 2761 03:13:22,320 --> 03:13:25,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so overtime pay, 141.2 million. 2762 03:13:25,940 --> 03:13:27,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sorry, million. 2763 03:13:27,880 --> 03:13:33,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Step increment due to meritorious performance, 24.88 million. 2764 03:13:34,240 --> 03:13:37,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The increase in the personnel economic relief allowance, so pera, 2765 03:13:38,180 --> 03:13:38,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 11. 2766 03:13:38,560 --> 03:13:42,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 11.79 billion. 2767 03:13:43,680 --> 03:13:45,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun na yung amount for pera. 2768 03:13:46,380 --> 03:13:47,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Indicative amount. 2769 03:13:48,120 --> 03:13:50,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that for the existing pera or? 2770 03:13:50,420 --> 03:13:51,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Indicative. Indicative amount. 2771 03:13:52,360 --> 03:13:53,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That's for additional pera? 2772 03:13:55,040 --> 03:13:55,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 2773 03:13:55,900 --> 03:13:57,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: In the pera. 2774 03:13:57,620 --> 03:13:58,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano po? 11? 2775 03:13:59,140 --> 03:14:04,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 11.7, 11 billion, 793,948,000. 2776 03:14:05,240 --> 03:14:07,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 93 billion. 2777 03:14:07,300 --> 03:14:07,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2778 03:14:08,560 --> 03:14:12,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, well, there you have it. 2779 03:14:12,860 --> 03:14:13,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We have an amount. 2780 03:14:14,620 --> 03:14:15,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. 2781 03:14:15,560 --> 03:14:16,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Indicative amount. 2782 03:14:16,340 --> 03:14:16,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 11.7. 2783 03:14:17,740 --> 03:14:23,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that would be certainly less than 500. 2784 03:14:24,420 --> 03:14:25,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 2785 03:14:25,900 --> 03:14:26,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Roughly. 2786 03:14:52,770 --> 03:14:59,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] level is at 500, yung 500 per month. 2787 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Again, these are indicative amounts. 2788 03:15:02,900 --> 03:15:09,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So right now, 500 pesos per month dagdag sa pera, that would be 6,000 in a year. Tama po? 2789 03:15:10,200 --> 03:15:10,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 2790 03:15:10,440 --> 03:15:27,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung mananatili yung MPBF. And of course, as we said, panawagan na ito sa mga kasama natin sa Kongreso, huwag na pong gawalawin o huwag bawasan ang MPBF. 2791 03:15:27,260 --> 03:15:29,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kung sakali, dagdagan pa nga. 2792 03:15:29,540 --> 03:15:48,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? Para naman maipagmalaki ng administrasyon na sila ang unang magdadagdag ng pera at well, 500 ang idadagdag. Baka naman pwedeng dagdagan pa. 2793 03:15:48,240 --> 03:15:52,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Anyway, so thank you for that information. 2794 03:15:53,240 --> 03:15:56,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, of course, ang... 2795 03:15:57,260 --> 03:16:04,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilinaw ko lang, ang long-standing demand namin, yung 2,000 gawing 5,000 a month yung pera. 2796 03:16:04,880 --> 03:16:27,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. And let me note also that in 2026, the administration increased the, let's say, the subsistence allowance of uniformed personnel from around 150 a day to 300 or so. 2797 03:16:27,260 --> 03:16:31,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang gano'n, di ba? Magkano yung inabot nun? How much did that cost? 2798 03:16:38,560 --> 03:16:42,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 74 billion as per the DBM, Madam Speaker. 2799 03:16:42,060 --> 03:16:42,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How much? 2800 03:16:42,920 --> 03:16:44,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 74 billion. 2801 03:16:45,300 --> 03:16:50,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 74 billion? Are you sure? Parang sobra yun, ha? For subsistence allowance? 2802 03:16:51,340 --> 03:16:52,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For subsistence allowance. 2803 03:16:52,300 --> 03:16:54,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For subsistence allowance. 2804 03:16:57,260 --> 03:17:01,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2805 03:17:01,260 --> 03:17:01,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2806 03:17:04,020 --> 03:17:08,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah. After the increase, it's 74 billion. 2807 03:17:08,140 --> 03:17:09,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: After the increase? 2808 03:17:09,280 --> 03:17:09,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, it's the total. 2809 03:17:09,720 --> 03:17:11,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The increase was something like... 2810 03:17:14,020 --> 03:17:18,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bigyan nyo yung mas magandang datos kasi parang halaki nun, ha? 2811 03:17:19,300 --> 03:17:19,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O. 2812 03:17:27,260 --> 03:17:45,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, Madam Speaker, given the increase, kasi it was at 150 before, now it's at 350. So, it's a 200 peso increase. 2813 03:17:45,020 --> 03:17:55,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, roughly, out of the 74 billion, the increase is 40 billion. Out of that 74 billion. 2814 03:17:55,560 --> 03:17:57,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 40 billion pesos. 2815 03:17:57,260 --> 03:18:08,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, the administration appropriated 40 billion pesos to increase the subsistence allowance of uniformed personnel, no? 2816 03:18:09,120 --> 03:18:13,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon yung pera, 11 billion ang nakalaan. 2817 03:18:15,020 --> 03:18:18,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Malinaw po, ha? Malinaw. 2818 03:18:18,220 --> 03:18:25,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya, I'm arguing, we can do better. This administration can do better for... 2819 03:18:25,220 --> 03:18:41,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the nearly 2 million personnel, you know, yung mga regular employees of the national government, as well as the LG youth, no? 2820 03:18:42,360 --> 03:18:50,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bitin po. Sasabihin ko na, medyo bitin yan. Tataas nyo rin lang, bitin yung 11 billion. 2821 03:18:50,100 --> 03:18:54,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya, yan po ang hamon sa ating kongreso. Dagdagan pa natin ito. 2822 03:18:55,220 --> 03:18:59,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung sa mga nakaraang taon, binabawasan yung MPBF, kailangan po dagdagan ngayon. 2823 03:19:01,220 --> 03:19:06,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Uniformed personnel, nabigyan ng 40 billion. 2026. Dagdag. 2824 03:19:07,420 --> 03:19:12,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano naman yung mga, eto, yung mga kawanig na rito ngayon, kasama tayong lahat dito. 2825 03:19:13,420 --> 03:19:17,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? Tama mo ba? Diba gusto natin ang increase sa pera? 2826 03:19:19,140 --> 03:19:23,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, diyo. Narinig nyo, ha? Narinig nyo. Okay. Malinaw na malinaw. 2827 03:19:25,220 --> 03:19:27,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let it be on the record. Wala nang energy. Okay. 2828 03:19:29,080 --> 03:19:30,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Launa na. 2829 03:19:32,020 --> 03:19:34,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright. Move to the next topic. 2830 03:19:37,660 --> 03:19:39,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Budget cuts. Okay. 2831 03:19:39,740 --> 03:19:47,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang isang natatangi sa budget na ito, binalik yung flood control. 2832 03:19:48,820 --> 03:19:54,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: After last year. No, last year, famously, because of the corruption scandal, 2833 03:19:55,220 --> 03:20:01,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 255 billion yung tinanggal sa DPWH. Tapos, nilipat sa iba't iba ngayon siya. 2834 03:20:02,780 --> 03:20:05,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang pangunahing nakinabang doon, mga social services. 2835 03:20:06,940 --> 03:20:14,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, lumaki yung sa DepEd, sa DOH, DSWD, TUPAD, and so on. 2836 03:20:15,280 --> 03:20:19,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero for 2027, balik na yung flood control. 2837 03:20:19,920 --> 03:20:24,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, total of 105 billion, all in all. 2838 03:20:25,220 --> 03:20:29,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 87 or so, nasa DPWH. Nabalik. 2839 03:20:31,160 --> 03:20:32,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano naging epekto? 2840 03:20:32,640 --> 03:20:38,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isang naging epekto, sa halip na madagdagan, usually, every year, 2841 03:20:38,140 --> 03:20:43,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nadadagdagan yung budget ng DepEd, ng DOH, and so on. 2842 03:20:43,300 --> 03:20:44,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa halip na madagdagan, nabawasan. 2843 03:20:46,340 --> 03:20:46,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2844 03:20:46,580 --> 03:20:53,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At nabawasan, hindi lang yung mga pork barrel items, 2845 03:20:53,700 --> 03:20:54,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: such as, 2846 03:20:55,220 --> 03:20:56,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the maipip, 2847 03:20:56,660 --> 03:20:58,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the TUPAD, 2848 03:20:59,420 --> 03:21:00,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on. 2849 03:21:01,480 --> 03:21:01,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi, 2850 03:21:02,820 --> 03:21:03,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in this case, 2851 03:21:04,740 --> 03:21:05,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what are we seeing here? 2852 03:21:06,260 --> 03:21:06,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MOE. 2853 03:21:07,840 --> 03:21:09,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pati yung MOE ng DepEd. 2854 03:21:10,040 --> 03:21:12,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In this case, it's the MOE of public schools. 2855 03:21:14,460 --> 03:21:16,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is not, hindi cut. 2856 03:21:17,540 --> 03:21:17,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, 2857 03:21:19,060 --> 03:21:20,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: notable here, 2858 03:21:20,780 --> 03:21:22,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is that the increase 2859 03:21:22,140 --> 03:21:24,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in MOE for public schools, 2860 03:21:25,220 --> 03:21:27,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proposed for 2027, 2861 03:21:28,060 --> 03:21:28,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is at 2862 03:21:28,960 --> 03:21:32,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 0.11% 2863 03:21:32,420 --> 03:21:35,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for kinder to grade 6 schools. 2864 03:21:36,220 --> 03:21:37,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Increase, ha? 2865 03:21:37,160 --> 03:21:40,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In-increase nyo yung MOE by 0.11%. 2866 03:21:40,300 --> 03:21:45,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sa grade 7 to 10, 0.38%. 2867 03:21:45,980 --> 03:21:49,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And grade 11 to 12, 0.33. 2868 03:21:49,240 --> 03:21:50,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Less than 1%. 2869 03:21:50,800 --> 03:21:52,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 0.33%. 2870 03:21:52,600 --> 03:21:53,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lahat yan. 2871 03:21:53,200 --> 03:21:54,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: My point being, 2872 03:21:55,220 --> 03:21:56,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: way below 2873 03:21:56,260 --> 03:21:58,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the inflation rate. 2874 03:21:59,740 --> 03:22:00,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Asan ba? 2875 03:22:00,140 --> 03:22:01,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nasa 6.2 ba ngayon? 2876 03:22:02,580 --> 03:22:04,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in effect, binawasan nyo. 2877 03:22:05,360 --> 03:22:05,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 2878 03:22:06,260 --> 03:22:07,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In effect, mas maliit 2879 03:22:07,660 --> 03:22:08,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang MOE ngayon 2880 03:22:08,980 --> 03:22:10,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga public schools natin. 2881 03:22:11,420 --> 03:22:11,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 2882 03:22:12,140 --> 03:22:12,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2883 03:22:12,900 --> 03:22:13,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano pa yung nandyan? 2884 03:22:13,660 --> 03:22:14,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. 2885 03:22:16,480 --> 03:22:17,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2886 03:22:17,180 --> 03:22:17,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And also, 2887 03:22:18,300 --> 03:22:19,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it came out in the budget briefings 2888 03:22:19,960 --> 03:22:20,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na, 2889 03:22:21,180 --> 03:22:21,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: one, 2890 03:22:22,560 --> 03:22:23,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this proposed budget 2891 03:22:23,920 --> 03:22:25,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: has no, 2892 03:22:25,220 --> 03:22:26,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no proposal 2893 03:22:26,500 --> 03:22:28,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for creation of new items, 2894 03:22:29,440 --> 03:22:31,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: new teacher one items 2895 03:22:31,820 --> 03:22:32,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 2027. 2896 03:22:33,720 --> 03:22:34,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Zero. 2897 03:22:35,540 --> 03:22:38,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kahit merong 14,000 plus 2898 03:22:38,280 --> 03:22:39,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na shortage tayo. 2899 03:22:40,260 --> 03:22:40,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 2900 03:22:41,040 --> 03:22:42,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sinasabi, unfilled positions. 2901 03:22:42,560 --> 03:22:44,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero even with the unfilled positions, 2902 03:22:44,780 --> 03:22:45,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kulang pa rin po. 2903 03:22:46,200 --> 03:22:46,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, zero. 2904 03:22:47,340 --> 03:22:47,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, 2905 03:22:48,260 --> 03:22:49,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: according to the 2906 03:22:49,200 --> 03:22:50,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: DepEd Secretary, 2907 03:22:50,420 --> 03:22:51,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Secretary Angara, 2908 03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:53,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung aral program, 2909 03:22:53,180 --> 03:22:55,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 nilagyan ng budget, 2910 03:22:55,940 --> 03:22:56,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon walang budget. 2911 03:22:57,780 --> 03:22:58,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 2912 03:22:58,120 --> 03:23:00,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is the learning recovery program. 2913 03:23:00,660 --> 03:23:02,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yan yung ninunood po natin. 2914 03:23:02,720 --> 03:23:03,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. 2915 03:23:06,180 --> 03:23:07,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are the other, 2916 03:23:07,980 --> 03:23:08,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: across the board, 2917 03:23:09,840 --> 03:23:10,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung DepEd, 2918 03:23:12,000 --> 03:23:13,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lumiit at nabawasan 2919 03:23:13,440 --> 03:23:15,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga major programs nila 2920 03:23:15,300 --> 03:23:17,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the basic education facilities, 2921 03:23:18,020 --> 03:23:18,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinakamalaki, 2922 03:23:18,740 --> 03:23:20,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that's the classroom construction budget. 2923 03:23:20,580 --> 03:23:22,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It was cut by 55%. 2924 03:23:23,180 --> 03:23:26,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung school feeding program, 2925 03:23:27,660 --> 03:23:28,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nabawasan. 2926 03:23:28,800 --> 03:23:30,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung textbooks and instructional materials, 2927 03:23:31,440 --> 03:23:33,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung computerization program for laptop, 2928 03:23:34,180 --> 03:23:34,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baba. 2929 03:23:34,740 --> 03:23:35,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nakared lahat. 2930 03:23:36,420 --> 03:23:36,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 2931 03:23:37,280 --> 03:23:37,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. 2932 03:23:40,140 --> 03:23:40,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. 2933 03:23:42,300 --> 03:23:43,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: State universities and colleges, 2934 03:23:44,400 --> 03:23:45,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cuts din po. 2935 03:23:45,500 --> 03:23:47,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are the top 10 cuts. 2936 03:23:47,760 --> 03:23:48,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinakamalaki, 2937 03:23:48,680 --> 03:23:50,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mariano Marcos State University, 2938 03:23:51,020 --> 03:23:51,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 28.8%. 2939 03:23:52,740 --> 03:23:53,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lower. 2940 03:23:53,440 --> 03:23:54,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or cut. 2941 03:23:54,920 --> 03:23:55,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Decrease. 2942 03:23:56,160 --> 03:23:57,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Compared to last year. 2943 03:23:57,840 --> 03:23:58,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And so on. 2944 03:23:58,500 --> 03:23:59,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ko na isa-isahin. 2945 03:23:59,660 --> 03:24:00,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. 2946 03:24:02,060 --> 03:24:02,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Health. 2947 03:24:03,420 --> 03:24:05,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung mga GOCC hospitals, 2948 03:24:05,520 --> 03:24:06,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you see there, 2949 03:24:06,680 --> 03:24:10,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cuts in their PS and MOE. 2950 03:24:11,000 --> 03:24:12,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This one being shown here, 2951 03:24:13,700 --> 03:24:15,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, overall budget cuts. 2952 03:24:15,800 --> 03:24:16,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. 2953 03:24:18,520 --> 03:24:19,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PS budget cuts 2954 03:24:19,760 --> 03:24:21,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for DOH retained hospitals. 2955 03:24:22,360 --> 03:24:23,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kulang na kulang, 2956 03:24:23,100 --> 03:24:23,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng personel, 2957 03:24:24,860 --> 03:24:29,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga DOH hospitals, 2958 03:24:29,860 --> 03:24:30,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know, 2959 03:24:30,400 --> 03:24:31,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the nurse, 2960 03:24:31,720 --> 03:24:32,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the atrocious, 2961 03:24:33,080 --> 03:24:34,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nurse to patient ratio, 2962 03:24:34,680 --> 03:24:35,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: doctor to patient ratio, 2963 03:24:36,060 --> 03:24:37,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero binawasan nyo yung PS. 2964 03:24:39,160 --> 03:24:39,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 2965 03:24:40,480 --> 03:24:42,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: By significant amount. 2966 03:24:42,640 --> 03:24:43,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, 2967 03:24:43,800 --> 03:24:45,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Rizal Medical Center, 2968 03:24:45,940 --> 03:24:51,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: less cut by 112 million pesos 2969 03:24:51,040 --> 03:24:52,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang PS nila. 2970 03:24:53,100 --> 03:24:54,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. 2971 03:24:56,020 --> 03:24:57,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung MOE, kinat nyo rin. 2972 03:24:58,740 --> 03:24:59,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, 2973 03:25:00,660 --> 03:25:02,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Center for Medical Health, 2974 03:25:02,420 --> 03:25:04,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 311 million pesos, 2975 03:25:04,300 --> 03:25:05,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binawasan ng MOE 2976 03:25:05,600 --> 03:25:07,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga ito. 2977 03:25:07,880 --> 03:25:11,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung Quirino Memorial Medical Center, 2978 03:25:12,600 --> 03:25:13,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Quezon City to, diba? 2979 03:25:14,800 --> 03:25:16,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 511 million pesos, 2980 03:25:16,560 --> 03:25:17,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: less ang MOE. 2981 03:25:18,060 --> 03:25:18,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, next slide. 2982 03:25:20,420 --> 03:25:21,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And more. 2983 03:25:21,000 --> 03:25:22,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ko na po isa-isahin. 2984 03:25:22,560 --> 03:25:23,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan pa po yung mga cut. 2985 03:25:24,180 --> 03:25:24,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2986 03:25:25,260 --> 03:25:27,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, my point being, 2987 03:25:28,180 --> 03:25:30,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit po binalik ang flood control 2988 03:25:30,340 --> 03:25:31,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: samantala 2989 03:25:31,020 --> 03:25:34,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang laki ng mga binawas 2990 03:25:34,060 --> 03:25:36,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o hindi man lang dinagdagan 2991 03:25:36,260 --> 03:25:40,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung para sa basic services. 2992 03:25:40,660 --> 03:25:42,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At as I said, 2993 03:25:42,760 --> 03:25:44,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ito yung mga discretionary 2994 03:25:44,520 --> 03:25:46,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pork barrel items 2995 03:25:46,700 --> 03:25:48,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng social services, 2996 03:25:48,660 --> 03:25:51,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but these are the MOE and PS. 2997 03:25:52,560 --> 03:25:53,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po, 2998 03:25:53,480 --> 03:25:54,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang point natin dito, 2999 03:25:54,580 --> 03:25:55,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Chair, 3000 03:25:56,720 --> 03:25:57,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi pwede yan. 3001 03:25:57,880 --> 03:25:59,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dapat ibalik at dagdagan pa nga. 3002 03:26:00,100 --> 03:26:01,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun yung point ko dito. 3003 03:26:02,280 --> 03:26:03,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung kinakailangan, 3004 03:26:03,180 --> 03:26:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tanggalin, 3005 03:26:03,700 --> 03:26:04,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bawasan na yung flood control. 3006 03:26:05,240 --> 03:26:07,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, dapat balik at dagdagan. 3007 03:26:07,800 --> 03:26:09,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po masasabi ng sponsor? 3008 03:26:10,940 --> 03:26:12,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: First, anong justification? 3009 03:26:12,760 --> 03:26:13,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit yung binawasan? 3010 03:26:14,440 --> 03:26:15,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PS, MOE, 3011 03:26:15,600 --> 03:26:16,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga public school, 3012 03:26:17,860 --> 03:26:19,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tsaka ng mga public hospital. 3013 03:26:20,400 --> 03:26:21,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, 3014 03:26:21,680 --> 03:26:22,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: oh, 3015 03:26:22,560 --> 03:26:24,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ba dapat dagdagan? 3016 03:26:29,280 --> 03:26:29,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 3017 03:26:30,120 --> 03:26:31,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 3018 03:26:32,180 --> 03:26:34,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We will verify the data 3019 03:26:34,800 --> 03:26:39,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least on the part of the DBM 3020 03:26:39,100 --> 03:26:42,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: because particularly for personal services, 3021 03:26:42,720 --> 03:26:44,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given that interface po yan, 3022 03:26:44,780 --> 03:26:46,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: dapat daw hindi yan nag-decrease. 3023 03:26:47,700 --> 03:26:49,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Dapat walang decreases in PSs, 3024 03:26:49,280 --> 03:26:50,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particularly since may 3025 03:26:50,420 --> 03:26:52,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: new tranche ng SSL. 3026 03:26:52,560 --> 03:26:55,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, with the PS, 3027 03:26:55,700 --> 03:26:57,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we just have to confirm also 3028 03:26:57,340 --> 03:26:58,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with the records of the DBM. 3029 03:27:00,600 --> 03:27:02,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, Madam Chair, 3030 03:27:02,440 --> 03:27:03,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 3031 03:27:03,520 --> 03:27:04,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sana po makonfirm na ngayon. 3032 03:27:04,840 --> 03:27:05,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Please check. 3033 03:27:06,380 --> 03:27:06,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 3034 03:27:06,940 --> 03:27:07,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, sige po. 3035 03:27:07,980 --> 03:27:08,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 3036 03:27:08,400 --> 03:27:09,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang sinasabi nyo, 3037 03:27:09,140 --> 03:27:10,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat pag PS, 3038 03:27:10,160 --> 03:27:10,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi nabawasan. 3039 03:27:11,220 --> 03:27:12,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, well, 3040 03:27:12,720 --> 03:27:13,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I guarantee you, 3041 03:27:13,660 --> 03:27:15,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan yung nasa budget book. 3042 03:27:15,920 --> 03:27:16,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, sige po. 3043 03:27:18,800 --> 03:27:19,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 3044 03:27:19,320 --> 03:27:21,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we'll confirm po right now. 3045 03:27:21,900 --> 03:27:22,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero, well, 3046 03:27:22,300 --> 03:27:23,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: while waiting. 3047 03:27:24,760 --> 03:27:26,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to the MOE, 3048 03:27:27,560 --> 03:27:30,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: dapat po wala rin nabawasan dyan. 3049 03:27:30,440 --> 03:27:30,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kasi nga, 3050 03:27:31,240 --> 03:27:33,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yun nga po yung consideration na 3051 03:27:33,320 --> 03:27:34,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: taas inflation, 3052 03:27:36,180 --> 03:27:37,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung mismong fuel 3053 03:27:37,740 --> 03:27:40,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and all of the operating expenses, 3054 03:27:40,740 --> 03:27:41,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: talagang tataas po yun lahat. 3055 03:27:42,400 --> 03:27:42,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kuryente. 3056 03:27:43,580 --> 03:27:45,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we'll also confirm 3057 03:27:45,880 --> 03:27:47,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with the records of the DBM on that. 3058 03:27:47,980 --> 03:27:49,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Particularly for 3059 03:27:50,000 --> 03:27:52,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung sa wala po 3060 03:27:52,300 --> 03:27:53,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung 3061 03:27:53,020 --> 03:27:56,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: funding for new teacher 3062 03:27:56,240 --> 03:27:57,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: one positions. 3063 03:27:57,920 --> 03:27:58,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Before that, 3064 03:27:58,940 --> 03:27:59,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung sa MOE po, 3065 03:28:00,100 --> 03:28:01,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for example, sa DepEd, 3066 03:28:01,160 --> 03:28:02,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit po less than 1% 3067 03:28:02,900 --> 03:28:04,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung increase ng mga MOE ng DepEd? 3068 03:28:06,360 --> 03:28:08,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In effect, parang nabawasan 3069 03:28:08,000 --> 03:28:09,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi nga, inflation, di ba? 3070 03:28:10,080 --> 03:28:11,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. As for the DBM, 3071 03:28:11,600 --> 03:28:12,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, 3072 03:28:12,920 --> 03:28:14,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: may formula daw po na 3073 03:28:14,460 --> 03:28:15,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ginagamit 3074 03:28:15,460 --> 03:28:18,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to determine kung ano po yung 3075 03:28:18,340 --> 03:28:19,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: MOE per 3076 03:28:19,820 --> 03:28:21,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: school. 3077 03:28:22,300 --> 03:28:23,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, may enrollment. 3078 03:28:24,000 --> 03:28:25,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, enrollment. 3079 03:28:27,360 --> 03:28:28,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mukhang may problema 3080 03:28:28,420 --> 03:28:29,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa formula. 3081 03:28:30,360 --> 03:28:32,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung ang resulta nito, liliit pa 3082 03:28:32,580 --> 03:28:34,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang MOE. 3083 03:28:36,940 --> 03:28:37,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 3084 03:28:39,820 --> 03:28:40,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 3085 03:28:41,360 --> 03:28:42,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DBM will, 3086 03:28:43,560 --> 03:28:44,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, it's 3087 03:28:44,420 --> 03:28:46,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in continuous talks with the DepEd. 3088 03:28:46,340 --> 03:28:47,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kasi apparently po, 3089 03:28:48,340 --> 03:28:49,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: re-revise naman po continually 3090 03:28:49,780 --> 03:28:52,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: itong formula na ito. Kasi the first, 3091 03:28:52,300 --> 03:28:54,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least the preliminary 3092 03:28:54,240 --> 03:28:55,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: levels are actually lower. 3093 03:28:59,620 --> 03:29:00,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah. 3094 03:29:00,420 --> 03:29:02,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: They started revising the formulas 3095 03:29:02,440 --> 03:29:03,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: na po noong 2025. 3096 03:29:04,080 --> 03:29:06,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, in constant revision naman po 3097 03:29:06,560 --> 03:29:08,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: itong formula. 3098 03:29:08,920 --> 03:29:10,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, it seems the formula 3099 03:29:10,040 --> 03:29:12,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is not 3100 03:29:12,360 --> 03:29:13,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: working as it should. Kasi, 3101 03:29:14,680 --> 03:29:15,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 2020, 3102 03:29:16,380 --> 03:29:17,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi nyo 2025, 3103 03:29:17,800 --> 03:29:20,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 2027 proposal nyo 3104 03:29:20,120 --> 03:29:21,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is only 3105 03:29:21,860 --> 03:29:23,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fractionally 3106 03:29:23,560 --> 03:29:25,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: higher than the 3107 03:29:25,460 --> 03:29:27,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 level. 3108 03:29:29,300 --> 03:29:29,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 3109 03:29:31,540 --> 03:29:31,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mukhang may, 3110 03:29:32,040 --> 03:29:33,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi man lang 3111 03:29:33,020 --> 03:29:36,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naka-indexed 3112 03:29:36,460 --> 03:29:37,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to inflation. Ika nga. 3113 03:29:40,260 --> 03:29:41,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the 3114 03:29:41,380 --> 03:29:43,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepEd and the DBM will 3115 03:29:43,620 --> 03:29:45,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: review again. 3116 03:29:45,920 --> 03:29:47,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Please review. At dapat gawan to 3117 03:29:47,740 --> 03:29:48,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 3118 03:29:48,200 --> 03:29:51,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paraan ng kongreso. 3119 03:29:51,860 --> 03:29:53,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In this case, no? 3120 03:29:54,760 --> 03:29:56,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po. Ganun din po 3121 03:29:56,580 --> 03:29:58,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa DOH. Bakit po 3122 03:29:58,220 --> 03:30:00,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nabawasan yung MOE? You know, during the 3123 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:02,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget briefings? A representative of 3124 03:30:02,020 --> 03:30:03,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the DVM, tinanong ko eh, sabi nila 3125 03:30:03,720 --> 03:30:05,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya daw po binawasan yung 3126 03:30:05,940 --> 03:30:07,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MOE ng mga DOH hospitals 3127 03:30:07,640 --> 03:30:09,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi may ma-e-fip naman daw. 3128 03:30:14,400 --> 03:30:15,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for 3129 03:30:15,620 --> 03:30:17,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the levels of 3130 03:30:17,640 --> 03:30:19,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DOH, the budget, 3131 03:30:19,700 --> 03:30:21,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi ano po yan eh, multiple 3132 03:30:21,780 --> 03:30:23,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: components, yung GAA 3133 03:30:23,700 --> 03:30:25,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: level, which is yung National Government Subsidy, 3134 03:30:25,900 --> 03:30:27,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but also they get transfers 3135 03:30:27,460 --> 03:30:29,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and PhilHealth. So, part po 3136 03:30:29,760 --> 03:30:31,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yun nung overall calculus. 3137 03:30:31,600 --> 03:30:33,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nila, anyway, they get income 3138 03:30:33,700 --> 03:30:36,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: aside from self-generated 3139 03:30:36,240 --> 03:30:37,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: income, PhilHealth is income, 3140 03:30:38,320 --> 03:30:39,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma-e-fip is also considered 3141 03:30:39,800 --> 03:30:41,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: income. Sabi po natin, 3142 03:30:41,960 --> 03:30:43,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba yung income, 3143 03:30:44,300 --> 03:30:45,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PhilHealth reimbursement 3144 03:30:45,880 --> 03:30:47,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pa yan eh, kailan darating yan? 3145 03:30:47,860 --> 03:30:49,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As against MOE, na nandyan 3146 03:30:49,860 --> 03:30:51,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na. Diba? 3147 03:30:52,340 --> 03:30:54,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Operating budget na 3148 03:30:54,060 --> 03:30:55,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon, ang problema mo, 3149 03:30:56,080 --> 03:30:57,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you starve the hospitals, 3150 03:30:57,460 --> 03:30:59,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of readily 3151 03:30:59,120 --> 03:31:01,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on-hand MOE, 3152 03:31:01,920 --> 03:31:03,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon, sasabihin ng hospital, 3153 03:31:03,180 --> 03:31:05,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sorry, wala kaming pambili ng ano eh, 3154 03:31:05,120 --> 03:31:06,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala kaming gamot, 3155 03:31:07,200 --> 03:31:09,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala kaming ganitong supply, this or that supply, 3156 03:31:10,000 --> 03:31:10,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bilin mo sa labas. 3157 03:31:11,700 --> 03:31:13,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun ang nangyayari niyan. Anyway, 3158 03:31:13,800 --> 03:31:15,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, we're flagging this issue 3159 03:31:15,360 --> 03:31:17,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as well, and dapat i-address to ng 3160 03:31:17,500 --> 03:31:19,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hopefully, 3161 03:31:19,340 --> 03:31:20,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Kongreso. Okay. 3162 03:31:21,980 --> 03:31:23,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sabi ko nga, inilakihan, 3163 03:31:23,600 --> 03:31:25,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binalik nyo yung flood control, binawasan 3164 03:31:25,500 --> 03:31:27,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nyo naman itong mga ito. So, tutul po tayo, 3165 03:31:27,460 --> 03:31:28,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan, dapat ma-address to. 3166 03:31:29,280 --> 03:31:30,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, next issue. 3167 03:31:34,860 --> 03:31:35,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pizarro. 3168 03:31:35,980 --> 03:31:37,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pizarro. Okay. Yung 3169 03:31:37,220 --> 03:31:38,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kontrobersyal na Pizarro. 3170 03:31:39,080 --> 03:31:40,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For 2026, 3171 03:31:41,440 --> 03:31:43,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung in-issue nyo po na 3172 03:31:43,360 --> 03:31:45,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: implementation ng 3173 03:31:45,440 --> 03:31:46,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: GAA, 3174 03:31:47,340 --> 03:31:48,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it would appear na 3175 03:31:48,900 --> 03:31:51,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a total of 1.5 trillion 3176 03:31:51,640 --> 03:31:53,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pesos yung naka-Pizarro. Tama po ba? 3177 03:31:57,460 --> 03:32:11,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.55 trillion 3178 03:32:11,840 --> 03:32:13,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the 3179 03:32:13,300 --> 03:32:15,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 GAA, 3180 03:32:16,440 --> 03:32:17,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganung kalaki 3181 03:32:17,240 --> 03:32:19,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Pizarro. 3182 03:32:24,080 --> 03:32:25,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is based on 3183 03:32:25,680 --> 03:32:27,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pizarro. 3184 03:32:57,460 --> 03:33:11,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the DBM confirms, Madam Speaker. So, 1.55 trillion. 3185 03:33:11,860 --> 03:33:17,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, imagine, out of the total GAA, 6.8 trillion? 3186 03:33:17,000 --> 03:33:19,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Was it 6.8 trillion? 3187 03:33:20,520 --> 03:33:22,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 6.793. 3188 03:33:22,520 --> 03:33:32,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Out of the 6.79 trillion GAA, January 5, 2026, nag-issue na kayo nung National Budget Circle na nyo. 3189 03:33:33,840 --> 03:33:44,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And of the 6.8 trillion peso budget, 1.55 trillion for later release or PISARO. 3190 03:33:44,380 --> 03:33:45,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, naka-delay na. 3191 03:33:46,580 --> 03:33:46,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3192 03:33:47,000 --> 03:33:55,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of that, of that 1.5 trillion, magkano na po yung, kasi alam natin, okay, bakit po PISARO? 3193 03:33:55,720 --> 03:34:02,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba ang policy is, if it's a congressional intervention, then automatic PISARO. 3194 03:34:02,820 --> 03:34:03,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ba yun? 3195 03:34:03,280 --> 03:34:03,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ba yun? 3196 03:34:17,000 --> 03:34:21,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3197 03:34:22,780 --> 03:34:23,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 3198 03:34:23,460 --> 03:34:24,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For my requirements, please. 3199 03:34:25,240 --> 03:34:25,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3200 03:34:26,420 --> 03:34:27,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, I heard the answer. 3201 03:34:27,900 --> 03:34:28,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige po. 3202 03:34:28,580 --> 03:34:28,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Go ahead. 3203 03:34:28,960 --> 03:34:31,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, but you have to state it on the record. 3204 03:34:32,480 --> 03:34:32,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 3205 03:34:33,100 --> 03:34:38,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, particularly for, well, there are two types of PISARO. 3206 03:34:38,280 --> 03:34:44,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, well, one of which would be the lump sum funds, which they comply with requirements 3207 03:34:44,640 --> 03:34:46,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: before the release of PISARO. 3208 03:34:46,840 --> 03:34:46,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3209 03:34:46,880 --> 03:34:46,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3210 03:34:47,000 --> 03:34:50,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that would be 600 billion. 3211 03:34:50,940 --> 03:34:55,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, of the 1.55 trillion, isa na po talaga doon yung special purpose funds, diba, yung 3212 03:34:55,720 --> 03:35:01,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lump sum funds, which requires omission of a special budget, special, ano tawag din doon, 3213 03:35:01,940 --> 03:35:02,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: special budget. 3214 03:35:03,920 --> 03:35:04,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 3215 03:35:04,660 --> 03:35:08,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 597 billion of the 1.5 trillion PISARO. 3216 03:35:09,200 --> 03:35:13,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, of that, magkano doon yung congressional insertion or amendment? 3217 03:35:13,940 --> 03:35:14,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3218 03:35:17,000 --> 03:35:46,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, of that, magkano doon yung congressional insertion or amendment? 3219 03:35:46,980 --> 03:35:47,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 3220 03:35:47,040 --> 03:35:48,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 924. 3221 03:35:48,040 --> 03:35:57,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 924 billion for the departments, but not all of those would be from the Congress, kasi 3222 03:35:57,260 --> 03:36:00,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: some of them are being managed by the central offices also. 3223 03:36:01,320 --> 03:36:01,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3224 03:36:02,260 --> 03:36:06,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 900 of the 1.5, 924? 3225 03:36:07,360 --> 03:36:08,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 924, yes. 3226 03:36:08,660 --> 03:36:14,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Billion are department PISARO, hindi special purpose fund, yanon po ba? 3227 03:36:14,860 --> 03:36:15,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 3228 03:36:15,520 --> 03:36:16,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I don't see here. 3229 03:36:16,060 --> 03:36:16,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3230 03:36:16,980 --> 03:36:18,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: All right. 3231 03:36:18,520 --> 03:36:29,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, my point here is, hindi po ba kayo sangayon na yung because of the, our budget process 3232 03:36:29,480 --> 03:36:35,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na merong NEP, tapos merong congressional insertion, and then PISARO, ang nagiging 3233 03:36:35,400 --> 03:36:37,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: epekto po niyan, delay. 3234 03:36:39,260 --> 03:36:46,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa halip na mapatupad sa fiscal year, yung proyekto, magba-validation muna, and then 3235 03:36:46,980 --> 03:36:58,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: basically, second half of the year na yung pagpapabid and award, then implementation will 3236 03:36:58,020 --> 03:37:02,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: be, you know, either end of the year or next year. 3237 03:37:02,480 --> 03:37:13,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po, dalawang taon ang typical na timeframe na binibigay for obligation and award and 3238 03:37:13,800 --> 03:37:14,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so on. 3239 03:37:15,460 --> 03:37:16,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3240 03:37:16,980 --> 03:37:17,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hmm. 3241 03:37:39,920 --> 03:37:40,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hmm. 3242 03:37:46,980 --> 03:37:50,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: , ah, yes, we agree with, ah, the honorable Pino. 3243 03:37:50,920 --> 03:37:57,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Um, yeah, with regards to the evaluation of the PISAROs, kaya po nadedelay kasi new projects 3244 03:37:57,420 --> 03:37:58,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: talaga siya. 3245 03:37:58,420 --> 03:37:59,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Hmm. 3246 03:37:59,420 --> 03:38:00,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, yun, yun yung one of the causes. 3247 03:38:00,420 --> 03:38:01,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3248 03:38:01,420 --> 03:38:02,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This includes classrooms, for example. 3249 03:38:02,420 --> 03:38:03,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3250 03:38:03,420 --> 03:38:09,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, isang napakalaking problema ng administrasyong ito, yung napakabagal na delivery on the construction 3251 03:38:09,920 --> 03:38:10,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of classroom. 3252 03:38:10,920 --> 03:38:15,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, ah, one reason there is, yun nga, hintayin pa yung listahan ng mga congressman. 3253 03:38:15,880 --> 03:38:16,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3254 03:38:16,880 --> 03:38:17,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga senador. 3255 03:38:17,880 --> 03:38:18,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It takes a long time to validate. 3256 03:38:18,880 --> 03:38:19,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang tagal tuloy. 3257 03:38:19,880 --> 03:38:20,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The target for construction for 2027, 700 classrooms lang daw. 3258 03:38:20,880 --> 03:38:21,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung target for construction. 3259 03:38:21,880 --> 03:38:22,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung actual completion, ah. 3260 03:38:22,880 --> 03:38:23,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 700 lang. 3261 03:38:23,880 --> 03:38:24,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hmm. 3262 03:38:24,880 --> 03:38:25,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Out of more than 6,000 funded. 3263 03:38:25,880 --> 03:38:26,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3264 03:38:26,880 --> 03:38:45,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: My point being, ang, ang punto lang po natin, we see how the, this pork barrel system, ah, 3265 03:38:45,780 --> 03:38:55,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, now is becoming the bottleneck to the urgent delivery of public infrastructure 3266 03:38:55,780 --> 03:38:56,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the people. 3267 03:38:56,780 --> 03:38:57,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun na po nangyayari. 3268 03:38:57,780 --> 03:38:58,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hadlang na po. 3269 03:38:58,780 --> 03:38:59,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3270 03:38:59,780 --> 03:39:00,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kailangan baguhin. 3271 03:39:00,780 --> 03:39:01,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, I know, tapos na yung oras. 3272 03:39:01,780 --> 03:39:02,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya, ah, huling topic na hindi ko na talaga palalalimit. 3273 03:39:02,780 --> 03:39:03,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam ko naman, meron pang pagkakataon na bumalik ang DBM. 3274 03:39:22,780 --> 03:39:23,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Panimula na lang po. 3275 03:39:23,780 --> 03:39:24,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This has to do with the LGSF. 3276 03:39:24,760 --> 03:39:25,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 3277 03:39:25,760 --> 03:39:26,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, we might just see. 3278 03:39:26,760 --> 03:39:27,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last na po itong slide natin. 3279 03:39:27,780 --> 03:39:34,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, as we know, yung LGSF po talagang lumaki nung 2026. 3280 03:39:34,220 --> 03:39:35,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 3281 03:39:35,700 --> 03:39:40,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Particularly the financial assistance to local government unit. 3282 03:39:40,780 --> 03:39:41,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3283 03:39:41,780 --> 03:39:44,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, and I heard, I heard earlier. 3284 03:39:44,140 --> 03:39:45,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo... 3285 03:39:45,140 --> 03:39:45,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: . 나 ... humihingi. 3286 03:39:45,780 --> 03:39:51,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba yung mga proyektong pinondohan sa FALGU? 3287 03:39:52,600 --> 03:39:54,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Financial Assistance to LGUs. 3288 03:39:55,000 --> 03:39:56,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo, may website kayo. 3289 03:39:57,540 --> 03:39:59,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kinuha namin yung dato sa website. 3290 03:40:00,800 --> 03:40:05,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But your website is really not that user-friendly. 3291 03:40:06,040 --> 03:40:06,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, anyway, 3292 03:40:07,760 --> 03:40:08,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandito, 3293 03:40:09,020 --> 03:40:10,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makikita dito 3294 03:40:10,300 --> 03:40:12,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung top 60 3295 03:40:12,960 --> 03:40:15,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: LGUs 3296 03:40:15,020 --> 03:40:16,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that received 3297 03:40:16,140 --> 03:40:19,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that received 3298 03:40:19,480 --> 03:40:21,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: financial assistance 3299 03:40:21,560 --> 03:40:24,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 2025 and 2026. 3300 03:40:24,520 --> 03:40:25,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I think this is 2025. 3301 03:40:26,220 --> 03:40:27,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May paraan ba para palakihin yan? 3302 03:40:29,080 --> 03:40:29,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3303 03:40:31,120 --> 03:40:32,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So in 2025, 3304 03:40:32,780 --> 03:40:34,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The top recipient of FALGU 3305 03:40:34,680 --> 03:40:37,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of financial assistance 3306 03:40:37,620 --> 03:40:39,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was the city of Manila. 3307 03:40:40,240 --> 03:40:44,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: With 530 million pesos, 3308 03:40:44,440 --> 03:40:45,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the second, 3309 03:40:46,140 --> 03:40:46,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: number two, 3310 03:40:47,020 --> 03:40:47,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the city of Naga, 3311 03:40:48,500 --> 03:40:50,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with 500 million pesos. 3312 03:40:52,860 --> 03:40:54,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kakaiba, 3313 03:40:54,460 --> 03:40:56,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakalaki po ng mga ito. 3314 03:40:56,380 --> 03:40:58,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whereas all the other cities, 3315 03:40:58,840 --> 03:41:00,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasa mga 30 million, 3316 03:41:00,340 --> 03:41:01,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 25 million, 3317 03:41:02,040 --> 03:41:03,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang kanilang natanggap. 3318 03:41:04,780 --> 03:41:07,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, if you look at city of Manila, 3319 03:41:08,880 --> 03:41:10,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you hover over the... 3320 03:41:10,920 --> 03:41:11,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po. 3321 03:41:12,520 --> 03:41:14,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 530 million pesos, 3322 03:41:14,440 --> 03:41:17,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pinakamalaking item yan, 3323 03:41:17,920 --> 03:41:18,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: single item, 3324 03:41:18,820 --> 03:41:19,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 500 million 3325 03:41:19,720 --> 03:41:21,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for a building 3326 03:41:21,440 --> 03:41:23,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the pamantasan 3327 03:41:23,520 --> 03:41:24,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Lunsug ng Maynila. 3328 03:41:25,740 --> 03:41:27,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, binigyan sila ng 500 million. 3329 03:41:28,100 --> 03:41:28,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa Naga naman, 3330 03:41:30,000 --> 03:41:31,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito, this is well covered. 3331 03:41:32,340 --> 03:41:34,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 500 million 3332 03:41:34,420 --> 03:41:35,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na natanggap ng Naga, 3333 03:41:36,700 --> 03:41:38,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 450 million of that 3334 03:41:38,820 --> 03:41:41,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was for the 3335 03:41:41,320 --> 03:41:42,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: multi-purpose building 3336 03:41:42,720 --> 03:41:44,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: comprehensive building. 3337 03:41:44,420 --> 03:41:46,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Retrofitting and rehabilitation 3338 03:41:46,940 --> 03:41:49,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Jesse M. Robredo 3339 03:41:49,820 --> 03:41:52,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coliseum 3340 03:41:52,520 --> 03:41:53,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or stadium 3341 03:41:53,660 --> 03:41:55,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Naga City. 3342 03:41:57,180 --> 03:41:58,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 430 million, 3343 03:41:58,780 --> 03:42:00,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 450 million. 3344 03:42:02,160 --> 03:42:02,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whereas, 3345 03:42:04,060 --> 03:42:04,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung typical 3346 03:42:04,780 --> 03:42:05,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga 3347 03:42:05,540 --> 03:42:08,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: LGUs, yung typical na 3348 03:42:08,580 --> 03:42:10,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: infrastructure project na binibigay sa kanila, 3349 03:42:12,000 --> 03:42:13,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: let's see a random one 3350 03:42:13,040 --> 03:42:13,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: near the bottom, 3351 03:42:14,420 --> 03:42:15,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh, 3352 03:42:16,760 --> 03:42:17,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayan, for example, 3353 03:42:18,520 --> 03:42:20,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the LGU of Kinuguitan, 3354 03:42:21,080 --> 03:42:22,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Misamis Oriental, 3355 03:42:22,300 --> 03:42:23,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakatanggap ng 25 million. 3356 03:42:26,240 --> 03:42:27,660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Please wrap up, 3357 03:42:27,820 --> 03:42:28,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: representative team. 3358 03:42:28,880 --> 03:42:30,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, improvement of water supply, 3359 03:42:30,580 --> 03:42:31,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10 million, 3360 03:42:31,800 --> 03:42:33,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: concreting of local road in Barangay, 3361 03:42:34,500 --> 03:42:35,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 5 million, etc., etc. 3362 03:42:36,440 --> 03:42:38,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun po ang range 3363 03:42:38,160 --> 03:42:40,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga proyekto na pinupondohan 3364 03:42:40,200 --> 03:42:42,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng financial assistance 3365 03:42:42,880 --> 03:42:43,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to LGUs. 3366 03:42:44,420 --> 03:42:46,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And this is, according to your guidelines, 3367 03:42:46,640 --> 03:42:48,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: purely at the discretion of the 3368 03:42:48,680 --> 03:42:49,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: DBM. 3369 03:42:50,640 --> 03:42:52,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di po ba? Kayo nag-de-decide. 3370 03:42:54,100 --> 03:42:54,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 3371 03:42:55,840 --> 03:42:58,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang basis nyo 3372 03:42:58,540 --> 03:43:00,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para mag-decide, 3373 03:43:00,800 --> 03:43:02,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay, yung Manila, bibigyan namin ng 3374 03:43:02,900 --> 03:43:05,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 500 million 3375 03:43:05,400 --> 03:43:06,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa kanilang isang building. 3376 03:43:07,440 --> 03:43:08,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung Naga, bibigyan namin ng 3377 03:43:08,900 --> 03:43:10,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 450 million 3378 03:43:10,180 --> 03:43:12,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa kanilang Coliseum. 3379 03:43:12,580 --> 03:43:14,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantalang, yung ibang mga bayan, 3380 03:43:14,420 --> 03:43:16,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay, tigpa 5 million 3381 03:43:16,900 --> 03:43:18,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na kayo na Barangay Road. 3382 03:43:19,340 --> 03:43:20,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How do you explain that? 3383 03:43:21,660 --> 03:43:22,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, 3384 03:43:22,400 --> 03:43:24,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we're talking about equitable 3385 03:43:24,180 --> 03:43:26,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: distribution 3386 03:43:26,520 --> 03:43:27,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of resources. 3387 03:43:30,640 --> 03:43:32,360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Madam Sponsor, please answer 3388 03:43:32,360 --> 03:43:34,620 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the question so that we can wrap up. 3389 03:43:35,520 --> 03:43:36,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. 3390 03:43:37,460 --> 03:43:38,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for DBM, 3391 03:43:38,360 --> 03:43:40,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it really depends on 3392 03:43:40,100 --> 03:43:42,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which particular LGUs 3393 03:43:42,200 --> 03:43:44,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: submit project proposal. 3394 03:43:44,420 --> 03:43:45,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, so 3395 03:43:45,700 --> 03:43:47,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa unahan lang na submit. 3396 03:43:47,880 --> 03:43:48,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whoever is submitting. 3397 03:43:49,360 --> 03:43:51,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Anyway, Madam Speaker, 3398 03:43:52,940 --> 03:43:54,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: alam ko wala ng oras. 3399 03:43:54,660 --> 03:43:56,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, inahighlight lang po natin 3400 03:43:56,120 --> 03:43:57,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung concern natin regarding 3401 03:43:57,640 --> 03:44:00,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the LGSF, 3402 03:44:00,580 --> 03:44:02,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly, the discretionary 3403 03:44:02,920 --> 03:44:04,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nature of 3404 03:44:04,400 --> 03:44:06,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: financial assistance to LGUs. 3405 03:44:07,180 --> 03:44:08,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napaka, kitang-kita nyo 3406 03:44:08,620 --> 03:44:10,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naman yung disparity 3407 03:44:10,600 --> 03:44:11,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito. 3408 03:44:11,980 --> 03:44:13,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, we question, 3409 03:44:14,420 --> 03:44:17,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for instance, 3410 03:44:18,240 --> 03:44:19,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sole approving authority 3411 03:44:19,940 --> 03:44:20,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito ang DBM. 3412 03:44:21,840 --> 03:44:22,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nasa inyo yan. 3413 03:44:23,600 --> 03:44:25,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, yun po ang kinikwestiyon natin. 3414 03:44:26,280 --> 03:44:27,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As I said, 3415 03:44:28,060 --> 03:44:29,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we're raising the question now. 3416 03:44:30,500 --> 03:44:32,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mas malaki pa rin yung 3417 03:44:32,060 --> 03:44:33,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proposed appropriation 3418 03:44:33,800 --> 03:44:35,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for LGSF 3419 03:44:35,780 --> 03:44:37,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including Falgo for 2027. 3420 03:44:38,200 --> 03:44:40,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya patuloy pa rin natin tatanungin yan. 3421 03:44:40,160 --> 03:44:42,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I believe we will have an opportunity 3422 03:44:42,080 --> 03:44:44,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: when it comes to lump sum, 3423 03:44:44,420 --> 03:44:45,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: funds. 3424 03:44:46,440 --> 03:44:48,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, to be continued pa po ito, 3425 03:44:48,760 --> 03:44:51,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 3426 03:44:52,860 --> 03:44:55,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maraming salamat po sa sponsor. 3427 03:44:55,980 --> 03:44:57,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang dito na lamang po. 3428 03:44:57,820 --> 03:44:59,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At again, huwag natin kalimutan, 3429 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:04,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, malinaw na po, magkakaroon ng increase sa pera. 3430 03:45:04,580 --> 03:45:05,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang ito na lang muna tayo. 3431 03:45:06,380 --> 03:45:07,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 3432 03:45:08,100 --> 03:45:08,580 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Thank you. 3433 03:45:09,480 --> 03:45:10,140 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? 3434 03:45:18,420 --> 03:45:24,340 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Serge Dagoac for his interpellation. 3435 03:45:24,940 --> 03:45:29,440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Sergio Dagoac of APEC Partylist is hereby recognized. 3436 03:45:30,000 --> 03:45:35,100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 3437 03:45:35,280 --> 03:45:36,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Majority Leader. 3438 03:45:37,300 --> 03:45:39,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Magandang umaga na po sa ating lahat. 3439 03:45:40,940 --> 03:45:51,220 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I was tasked to terminate the budget interpellation and debate on DIPDIV. 3440 03:45:52,440 --> 03:45:55,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: However, I would like to manifest first that 3441 03:45:55,940 --> 03:45:59,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I have 3442 03:45:59,000 --> 03:46:01,540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: still a lot of 3443 03:46:01,540 --> 03:46:04,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: frustrations with 3444 03:46:04,080 --> 03:46:08,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the way the PSA 3445 03:46:08,120 --> 03:46:14,100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: fulfill their mandate under their charter. 3446 03:46:14,820 --> 03:46:15,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, 3447 03:46:15,920 --> 03:46:22,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: there being no other members of the minority who wish to interpellate 3448 03:46:22,120 --> 03:46:23,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: as of this morning 3449 03:46:23,860 --> 03:46:26,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to the budget of the DIPDIV, 3450 03:46:26,840 --> 03:46:28,860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I move, Madam Speaker, 3451 03:46:29,000 --> 03:46:32,040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to terminate the interpellation and debate 3452 03:46:32,040 --> 03:46:37,040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on the budget of DIPDIV and its attached agencies 3453 03:46:37,040 --> 03:46:43,240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: excluding the PSA. 3454 03:46:43,240 --> 03:46:47,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi kailangan pang pag-usapan dito 3455 03:46:47,080 --> 03:46:48,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on other 3456 03:46:48,920 --> 03:46:50,840 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: other 3457 03:46:50,840 --> 03:46:54,680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: DIPDIV yung budget ng PSE 3458 03:46:54,680 --> 03:46:56,460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: because that has 3459 03:46:56,460 --> 03:46:58,600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bearing on our decisions. 3460 03:46:59,000 --> 03:47:00,580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kita mo naman halos lahat 3461 03:47:00,580 --> 03:47:03,000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa budget, et cetera, 3462 03:47:03,660 --> 03:47:04,380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: CBMS, 3463 03:47:04,840 --> 03:47:07,440 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: puro po data gathering ang problema. 3464 03:47:08,040 --> 03:47:09,260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I cannot understand 3465 03:47:09,260 --> 03:47:12,640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bakit umabot ng anim na taon 3466 03:47:12,640 --> 03:47:14,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung sinasabi nyo kanina, 3467 03:47:14,800 --> 03:47:15,780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: pero taon-taon, 3468 03:47:15,920 --> 03:47:18,980 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ako as a general manager of two electric cooperatives, 3469 03:47:19,920 --> 03:47:20,060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: no, 3470 03:47:20,580 --> 03:47:23,360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ay nagfi-fill up 3471 03:47:23,360 --> 03:47:26,120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ng utility survey. 3472 03:47:26,840 --> 03:47:28,340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Taon-taon po yun. 3473 03:47:28,340 --> 03:47:28,960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya, 3474 03:47:29,000 --> 03:47:30,080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I could not understand. 3475 03:47:30,240 --> 03:47:32,200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kailangang mabosisi yun 3476 03:47:32,200 --> 03:47:34,800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: because that has a lot of bearing 3477 03:47:34,800 --> 03:47:37,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on the decision-making of our budget. 3478 03:47:37,600 --> 03:47:37,920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, 3479 03:47:38,640 --> 03:47:40,620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I so move, Madam Speaker. 3480 03:47:41,080 --> 03:47:42,340 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 3481 03:47:44,120 --> 03:47:45,320 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, 3482 03:47:46,320 --> 03:47:48,020 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on the part of the majority, 3483 03:47:48,680 --> 03:47:49,720 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: we join the minority 3484 03:47:49,720 --> 03:47:52,200 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: in the motion to terminate the interpellations 3485 03:47:52,200 --> 03:47:53,560 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the proposed budget 3486 03:47:53,560 --> 03:47:55,680 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Department of 3487 03:47:55,680 --> 03:47:58,220 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Economy, Planning, and Development, 3488 03:47:58,680 --> 03:47:58,840 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: including the attached agencies 3489 03:47:58,840 --> 03:48:01,740 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: excluding PSA. 3490 03:48:02,360 --> 03:48:04,640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate 3491 03:48:04,640 --> 03:48:07,180 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the interpellations of the proposed budget 3492 03:48:07,180 --> 03:48:10,320 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development, 3493 03:48:10,580 --> 03:48:14,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: including attached agencies except PSA. 3494 03:48:14,640 --> 03:48:15,700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 3495 03:48:16,800 --> 03:48:17,920 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The chair hears none. 3496 03:48:18,120 --> 03:48:20,400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations of the said proposed budget 3497 03:48:20,400 --> 03:48:21,680 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby terminated. 3498 03:48:22,760 --> 03:48:23,700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 3499 03:48:24,020 --> 03:48:25,400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, DIPDIV. 3500 03:48:25,680 --> 03:48:26,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 3501 03:48:38,750 --> 03:48:39,320 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 3502 03:48:39,480 --> 03:48:40,020 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, 3503 03:48:40,400 --> 03:48:41,620 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to recognize 3504 03:48:41,620 --> 03:48:45,280 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Antonio Tino. 3505 03:48:50,280 --> 03:48:52,620 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Tino is hereby recognized. 3506 03:48:53,160 --> 03:48:53,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 3507 03:48:54,200 --> 03:48:55,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it is my honor 3508 03:48:55,080 --> 03:48:56,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in behalf of the minority 3509 03:48:56,560 --> 03:48:58,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to move for the termination 3510 03:48:58,520 --> 03:49:01,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the budget deliberation 3511 03:49:01,420 --> 03:49:04,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the deliberations on the budget, 3512 03:49:05,400 --> 03:49:06,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the proposed budget 3513 03:49:06,260 --> 03:49:09,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Department of Budget and Management. 3514 03:49:10,520 --> 03:49:12,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I so move, Madam Speaker. 3515 03:49:12,500 --> 03:49:14,180 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 3516 03:49:16,300 --> 03:49:17,420 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, 3517 03:49:17,860 --> 03:49:19,340 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part of the majority, 3518 03:49:19,620 --> 03:49:21,440 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority on the motion 3519 03:49:21,440 --> 03:49:23,900 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate the period of interpellations 3520 03:49:23,900 --> 03:49:25,740 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the proposed budget 3521 03:49:25,740 --> 03:49:28,240 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of Department of Budget and Management 3522 03:49:28,240 --> 03:49:29,860 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: including Attach Agency. 3523 03:49:30,520 --> 03:49:31,640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion 3524 03:49:31,640 --> 03:49:33,460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: to terminate the interpellations 3525 03:49:33,460 --> 03:49:34,480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: on the proposed budget 3526 03:49:34,480 --> 03:49:36,540 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the Department of Budget and Management. 3527 03:49:36,720 --> 03:49:37,760 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 3528 03:49:38,620 --> 03:49:39,860 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The chair hears none. 3529 03:49:40,000 --> 03:49:41,660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations on the proposed budget 3530 03:49:41,660 --> 03:49:43,380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the Department of Budget and Management 3531 03:49:43,380 --> 03:49:44,720 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby terminated. 3532 03:49:47,440 --> 03:49:48,260 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 3533 03:49:53,520 --> 03:49:54,500 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, 3534 03:49:55,240 --> 03:49:56,340 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to... 3535 03:49:58,240 --> 03:49:59,860 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to suspend session for a few minutes. 3536 03:50:00,280 --> 03:50:01,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended. 3537 03:51:35,700 --> 03:51:36,420 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. 3538 03:51:37,040 --> 03:51:37,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 3539 03:51:38,380 --> 03:51:39,000 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Madam Speaker, 3540 03:51:39,100 --> 03:51:40,020 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: I move to recognize 3541 03:51:40,020 --> 03:51:41,280 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: the Honorable Sergio Dago. 3542 03:51:41,600 --> 03:51:42,900 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Honorable Dago 3543 03:51:42,900 --> 03:51:44,080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby recognized. 3544 03:51:45,180 --> 03:51:46,580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 3545 03:51:47,480 --> 03:51:48,500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker, 3546 03:51:48,660 --> 03:51:51,300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I move to withdraw 3547 03:51:51,300 --> 03:51:53,940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: my previous motion 3548 03:51:53,940 --> 03:51:57,020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and amend the same. 3549 03:51:57,020 --> 03:51:57,100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you. 3550 03:51:57,100 --> 03:51:58,580 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 3551 03:51:58,900 --> 03:52:00,480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. Please proceed. 3552 03:52:01,140 --> 03:52:02,320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 3553 03:52:02,540 --> 03:52:20,040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the budget of DIPDIV and its attached agencies and corporations except the PSA. 3554 03:52:20,520 --> 03:52:21,920 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? 3555 03:52:21,920 --> 03:52:37,820 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except the PSA. 3556 03:52:37,820 --> 03:52:48,660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation of the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except PSA. 3557 03:52:49,100 --> 03:52:50,180 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 3558 03:52:50,820 --> 03:52:51,860 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 3559 03:52:51,920 --> 03:53:01,300 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Interpellations on the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except the PSA, is hereby terminated. 3560 03:53:02,100 --> 03:53:02,720 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 3561 03:53:03,060 --> 03:53:09,020 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend consideration of House Bill 10858. 3562 03:53:09,320 --> 03:53:10,240 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 3563 03:53:10,680 --> 03:53:12,460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. 3564 03:53:14,080 --> 03:53:15,100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. 3565 03:53:18,540 --> 03:53:21,900 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session. 3566 03:53:21,920 --> 03:53:30,920 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: until September 16 at 10 a.m. 3567 03:53:30,920 --> 03:53:31,880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? 3568 03:53:31,880 --> 03:53:33,160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. 3569 03:53:33,260 --> 03:53:38,080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The session is suspended until September 16 at 10 o'clock in the morning.