WEBVTT asr-000001 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: our sources asr-000002 00:00:02.120 --> 00:00:04.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of growth. Of course, we want asr-000003 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to promote investments, strategic asr-000004 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:08.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: investments with building asr-000005 00:00:08.300 --> 00:00:09.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: up our local industries. asr-000006 00:00:10.340 --> 00:00:12.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We also want to asr-000007 00:00:12.060 --> 00:00:13.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: promote asr-000008 00:00:13.980 --> 00:00:15.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: our export sector. asr-000009 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:17.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. asr-000010 00:00:20.060 --> 00:00:21.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. asr-000011 00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:23.780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, ang kasama sa bawat asr-000012 00:00:23.780 --> 00:00:24.800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gastos na ito, asr-000013 00:00:26.020 --> 00:00:28.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula sa ating household final consumption asr-000014 00:00:28.200 --> 00:00:29.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: expenditure, asr-000015 00:00:29.220 --> 00:00:31.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay ang total spending asr-000016 00:00:31.300 --> 00:00:33.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga households pagdating asr-000017 00:00:33.460 --> 00:00:35.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kanilang paggastos asr-000018 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:37.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga goods and services asr-000019 00:00:37.040 --> 00:00:39.680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kanilang direkta na kinukonsumo. asr-000020 00:00:40.860 --> 00:00:41.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At asr-000021 00:00:41.100 --> 00:00:43.700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakadikit, nakalakip asr-000022 00:00:43.700 --> 00:00:45.900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga ito ay ang patong-patong asr-000023 00:00:45.900 --> 00:00:47.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na buwis na binabayaran asr-000024 00:00:47.820 --> 00:00:49.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tulad ng 12% asr-000025 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:50.940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na value-added tax. asr-000026 00:00:51.420 --> 00:00:53.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung kinikilala mismo na ating asr-000027 00:00:53.400 --> 00:00:55.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pamahalaan na labis asr-000028 00:00:55.340 --> 00:00:57.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pagdepende ng ating asr-000029 00:00:57.840 --> 00:00:59.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: economy mismo asr-000030 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:00.700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa household consumption asr-000031 00:01:00.700 --> 00:01:02.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at serbisyo, asr-000032 00:01:02.800 --> 00:01:04.600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang patuloy na pagpataw asr-000033 00:01:04.600 --> 00:01:06.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng patong-patong na buwi, asr-000034 00:01:06.800 --> 00:01:09.020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gaya ng VAT, ay lalong asr-000035 00:01:09.020 --> 00:01:11.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagpapahina rin sa purchasing power asr-000036 00:01:11.240 --> 00:01:11.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mamamayan. asr-000037 00:01:12.540 --> 00:01:14.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagamat may mga proposals ngayon na asr-000038 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mapataas yung threshold asr-000039 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:18.760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating sa asr-000040 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:20.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: personal tax income, asr-000041 00:01:21.460 --> 00:01:23.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga ganun pong mga asr-000042 00:01:23.240 --> 00:01:24.640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proposals, pero asr-000043 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi pa yan napapasa ngayon. asr-000044 00:01:26.540 --> 00:01:28.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang meron ngayon ay asr-000045 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:29.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung asr-000046 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:31.440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: patong-patong na mga buwis asr-000047 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:33.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pinapasan ng ordinaryong asr-000048 00:01:33.500 --> 00:01:35.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mamamayan. Sa katunayan, asr-000049 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:37.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas mataas ho ang ating VAT asr-000050 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: collection ngayon, lalong-lalo na asr-000051 00:01:39.300 --> 00:01:41.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa diesel at sa iba pang asr-000052 00:01:41.240 --> 00:01:43.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga petroleum products, dulot asr-000053 00:01:43.220 --> 00:01:45.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagtaas ng presyo ng mga asr-000054 00:01:45.100 --> 00:01:46.280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilihin. Sa asr-000055 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2027, inaasahan na asr-000056 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:50.940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makakolekta ang pamahalaan ng asr-000057 00:01:50.940 --> 00:01:52.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 860 billion pesos asr-000058 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:54.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula sa VAT. Mula asr-000059 00:01:54.980 --> 00:01:57.000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa 2025, yan ho asr-000060 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:58.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nasa 609.5% asr-000061 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:00.960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng 6 billion. Ngunit asr-000062 00:02:00.960 --> 00:02:03.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa 2027, yan asr-000063 00:02:03.160 --> 00:02:05.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nakikita natin asr-000064 00:02:05.240 --> 00:02:07.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natataas ng 860 asr-000065 00:02:07.340 --> 00:02:09.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: billion pesos. Yan ho asr-000066 00:02:09.340 --> 00:02:11.320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating tunguhin. At katulad asr-000067 00:02:11.320 --> 00:02:13.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng nasabi ng ating sponsor, asr-000068 00:02:13.820 --> 00:02:16.080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga plano para mag-diversify asr-000069 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:17.320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pwedeng asr-000070 00:02:17.320 --> 00:02:18.900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga sources asr-000071 00:02:18.900 --> 00:02:20.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng paglago ng ating asr-000072 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:22.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ekonomiya. Ngunit sa ngayon, asr-000073 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakikita natin na napakabagal asr-000074 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:27.480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at wala tayo asr-000075 00:02:27.480 --> 00:02:28.480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ganung direksyon. asr-000076 00:02:29.200 --> 00:02:30.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isang ayon naman, asr-000077 00:02:31.600 --> 00:02:32.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, sa asr-000078 00:02:32.620 --> 00:02:35.060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 2027 Budget of Expenditures asr-000079 00:02:35.060 --> 00:02:36.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and Sources of Financing, asr-000080 00:02:38.940 --> 00:02:40.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung nabanggit ko kanina na inaasahan asr-000081 00:02:40.920 --> 00:02:43.100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin ang makolekta mula sa VAT asr-000082 00:02:43.100 --> 00:02:45.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 860 billion pesos, asr-000083 00:02:47.480 --> 00:02:48.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ibig sabihin ba meron tayong asr-000084 00:02:48.920 --> 00:02:51.620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: inaasahan na 97.6 asr-000085 00:02:51.620 --> 00:02:52.960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: billion pesos o asr-000086 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 12.8% na asr-000087 00:02:55.060 --> 00:02:57.320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtaas sa koleksyon mula sa VAT asr-000088 00:02:57.320 --> 00:02:58.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa loob lamang ng ekon. asr-000089 00:02:59.200 --> 00:03:00.960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin po yung ating asr-000090 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: projected na increase asr-000091 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:04.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa koleksyon ng VAT asr-000092 00:03:04.460 --> 00:03:06.820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay may pagtaas na asr-000093 00:03:06.820 --> 00:03:08.700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 97.6 billion pesos. asr-000094 00:03:10.160 --> 00:03:11.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-000095 00:03:13.420 --> 00:03:14.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEV's position would be asr-000096 00:03:14.900 --> 00:03:17.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: probably the DOF would be asr-000097 00:03:17.160 --> 00:03:19.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: better, in a better asr-000098 00:03:19.100 --> 00:03:21.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: position to answer asr-000099 00:03:21.040 --> 00:03:22.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with revenue projection, asr-000100 00:03:23.020 --> 00:03:23.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particular to the VAT. asr-000101 00:03:25.260 --> 00:03:27.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Samantalang sa supply side naman, asr-000102 00:03:27.040 --> 00:03:29.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula taong 2023, asr-000103 00:03:29.200 --> 00:03:31.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hanggang 2025, asr-000104 00:03:31.200 --> 00:03:33.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 1.8% lang ang ambag asr-000105 00:03:33.200 --> 00:03:35.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng agriculture, forestry, at asr-000106 00:03:35.200 --> 00:03:37.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: fishing sa ating GDP growth asr-000107 00:03:37.200 --> 00:03:39.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na sinundan ng industry asr-000108 00:03:39.200 --> 00:03:41.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nasa 19.8%. asr-000109 00:03:41.200 --> 00:03:43.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang Pilipinas, asr-000110 00:03:43.200 --> 00:03:45.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakaraming din po natin, nasa asr-000111 00:03:45.200 --> 00:03:47.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 10 million yung ating mga registered asr-000112 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:49.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na farmers and fisher folk. asr-000113 00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:51.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit napakaliit ng kanilang asr-000114 00:03:51.200 --> 00:03:53.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: contribution sa GDP asr-000115 00:03:53.200 --> 00:03:55.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil na rin sa maraming mga asr-000116 00:03:55.200 --> 00:03:57.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dinadaing na mga issue, asr-000117 00:03:57.200 --> 00:03:59.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kulad ng mataas na cost of food, asr-000118 00:03:59.200 --> 00:04:01.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: production, nandyan din ang asr-000119 00:04:01.200 --> 00:04:03.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sunod-sunod na kalamidad, asr-000120 00:04:03.200 --> 00:04:05.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kulang na kulang din yung mga asr-000121 00:04:05.200 --> 00:04:07.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: subsidiya na available sa kanila asr-000122 00:04:07.200 --> 00:04:09.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para makapagpatuloy sa production. asr-000123 00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:11.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, sa asr-000124 00:04:11.200 --> 00:04:13.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: assessment po ba ng DEV-DEV, asr-000125 00:04:13.200 --> 00:04:15.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: anong dahilan asr-000126 00:04:15.200 --> 00:04:17.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung bakit napakalaki asr-000127 00:04:17.200 --> 00:04:19.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng binagsak ng ating asr-000128 00:04:19.200 --> 00:04:21.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agrikultura sa paglago asr-000129 00:04:21.200 --> 00:04:23.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating ekonomiya? asr-000130 00:04:29.200 --> 00:04:31.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for 2025 asr-000131 00:04:31.200 --> 00:04:33.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: alone, are we looking at asr-000132 00:04:33.200 --> 00:04:35.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: multi-year? asr-000133 00:04:35.200 --> 00:04:37.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just for clarification, so we can pull up the data. asr-000134 00:04:37.200 --> 00:04:39.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: From the data from asr-000135 00:04:39.200 --> 00:04:41.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the years 2023 to 2025. asr-000136 00:04:45.200 --> 00:04:47.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakababa po nito. asr-000137 00:04:47.200 --> 00:04:49.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nasa 1.8% asr-000138 00:04:49.200 --> 00:04:51.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lamang. asr-000139 00:04:51.200 --> 00:05:01.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you. asr-000140 00:05:01.200 --> 00:05:03.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-000141 00:05:03.200 --> 00:05:07.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's a combination of asr-000142 00:05:07.200 --> 00:05:09.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: external factors at the same asr-000143 00:05:09.200 --> 00:05:11.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: time, those that are germane asr-000144 00:05:11.200 --> 00:05:13.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to the agricultural sector. asr-000145 00:05:13.200 --> 00:05:15.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For one, in 2023 asr-000146 00:05:15.200 --> 00:05:17.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to 2024, there was asr-000147 00:05:17.200 --> 00:05:19.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: El Nino event. asr-000148 00:05:19.200 --> 00:05:21.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So that is probably one of the asr-000149 00:05:21.200 --> 00:05:23.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: main causes of asr-000150 00:05:23.200 --> 00:05:25.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the decline in productivity asr-000151 00:05:25.200 --> 00:05:27.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and production in asr-000152 00:05:27.200 --> 00:05:29.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the agriculture and the fishery sector. asr-000153 00:05:29.200 --> 00:05:31.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Besides that, asr-000154 00:05:31.200 --> 00:05:33.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of course, asr-000155 00:05:33.200 --> 00:05:35.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Typhoon Taeng happened asr-000156 00:05:35.200 --> 00:05:37.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in 2023. asr-000157 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:39.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There's a myriad of typhoons asr-000158 00:05:39.200 --> 00:05:41.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that hit asr-000159 00:05:41.200 --> 00:05:43.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: not just rice asr-000160 00:05:43.200 --> 00:05:45.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: centers but all of our agricultural asr-000161 00:05:45.200 --> 00:05:47.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: communities. asr-000162 00:05:47.200 --> 00:05:49.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Besides that, the DEV-DEV is asr-000163 00:05:49.200 --> 00:05:51.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: citing also that in general asr-000164 00:05:51.200 --> 00:05:53.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is a persistent asr-000165 00:05:55.200 --> 00:05:57.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: problem of low asr-000166 00:05:57.200 --> 00:05:59.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: productivity in the agricultural asr-000167 00:05:59.200 --> 00:06:01.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: fishery sector. asr-000168 00:06:01.200 --> 00:06:03.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Also, declining farm sizes. asr-000169 00:06:03.200 --> 00:06:05.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yields asr-000170 00:06:05.200 --> 00:06:07.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: are variable and volatile. asr-000171 00:06:07.200 --> 00:06:09.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So these are just asr-000172 00:06:09.200 --> 00:06:11.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: some of the reasons why asr-000173 00:06:11.200 --> 00:06:13.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is a decline asr-000174 00:06:13.200 --> 00:06:15.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least from 2023 to 2025. asr-000175 00:06:15.200 --> 00:06:17.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. asr-000176 00:06:17.200 --> 00:06:19.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang suliran natin, Madam Speaker, asr-000177 00:06:19.200 --> 00:06:21.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi sinasalamin asr-000178 00:06:21.200 --> 00:06:23.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating pondo. asr-000179 00:06:23.200 --> 00:06:25.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung gano'ng pinakailangan supportahan asr-000180 00:06:25.200 --> 00:06:27.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lokal na agrikultura, asr-000181 00:06:27.200 --> 00:06:29.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating lokal na produkton. Halimbawa, asr-000182 00:06:29.200 --> 00:06:31.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: namanggit ng ating Distinguished Director asr-000183 00:06:31.200 --> 00:06:33.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung tungkol sa asr-000184 00:06:33.200 --> 00:06:35.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: impact ng extreme weather events. asr-000185 00:06:35.200 --> 00:06:37.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na ngayon, pinaghahandaan asr-000186 00:06:37.200 --> 00:06:39.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin for El Nino. asr-000187 00:06:39.200 --> 00:06:41.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero hindi mo sa malinaw na makita asr-000188 00:06:41.200 --> 00:06:43.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pondo ng Department of Agriculture, asr-000189 00:06:43.200 --> 00:06:45.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ibang mga asr-000190 00:06:45.200 --> 00:06:47.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: relevant pa na agencies, asr-000191 00:06:47.200 --> 00:06:49.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano natin yan natutukunan. asr-000192 00:06:49.200 --> 00:06:51.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pangalawa, nabanggit din yung mga asr-000193 00:06:51.200 --> 00:06:53.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: factors ng asr-000194 00:06:53.200 --> 00:06:55.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakataas na cost of production, asr-000195 00:06:55.200 --> 00:06:57.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa paggamit ng crudo asr-000196 00:06:57.200 --> 00:06:59.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na parehong ginagamit ng mga magsasaka asr-000197 00:06:59.200 --> 00:07:01.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at ng mga may ngita. Hindi rin natin asr-000198 00:07:01.200 --> 00:07:03.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakita ng malinaw nasan ba yung mga asr-000199 00:07:03.200 --> 00:07:05.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: fuel subsidies, nasan ba yung asr-000200 00:07:05.200 --> 00:07:07.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tuloy-tuloy na assistance para sa asr-000201 00:07:07.200 --> 00:07:09.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: farmer and petro. asr-000202 00:07:09.200 --> 00:07:11.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nandyan din po yung asr-000203 00:07:11.200 --> 00:07:13.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa factor asr-000204 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:15.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din ng pag-review asr-000205 00:07:15.200 --> 00:07:17.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin. Last year pa lang sinabi asr-000206 00:07:17.200 --> 00:07:19.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na natin, nabubusisi natin asr-000207 00:07:19.200 --> 00:07:21.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung liberalization asr-000208 00:07:21.200 --> 00:07:23.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating sa rice production asr-000209 00:07:23.200 --> 00:07:25.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at yung pag- asr-000210 00:07:25.200 --> 00:07:27.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itiyak ng rice self-sufficiency asr-000211 00:07:27.200 --> 00:07:29.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito sa ating bansa. asr-000212 00:07:29.200 --> 00:07:31.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit muli, hindi natin nakita asr-000213 00:07:31.200 --> 00:07:33.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating national budget asr-000214 00:07:33.200 --> 00:07:35.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na buong-buo yung supporta natin para asr-000215 00:07:35.200 --> 00:07:37.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa hindi lang sa bigas asr-000216 00:07:37.200 --> 00:07:39.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na itiyakin ang self-sufficiency asr-000217 00:07:39.200 --> 00:07:41.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero mapababa mismo yung ating asr-000218 00:07:41.200 --> 00:07:43.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: food import dependence asr-000219 00:07:43.200 --> 00:07:45.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakita natin for the past asr-000220 00:07:45.200 --> 00:07:47.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: a few years, lalong lumaki asr-000221 00:07:47.200 --> 00:07:49.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga pangunahing pagkain asr-000222 00:07:49.200 --> 00:07:51.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mamamayang Pilipinas. asr-000223 00:07:51.200 --> 00:07:53.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sabi rin Madam Speaker ng DepDiv na asr-000224 00:07:53.200 --> 00:07:55.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 8.8 million na mga asr-000225 00:07:55.200 --> 00:07:57.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pilipino ang asr-000226 00:07:57.200 --> 00:07:59.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lifted out of poverty asr-000227 00:07:59.200 --> 00:08:01.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matapos bumaba ang poverty incidence asr-000228 00:08:01.200 --> 00:08:03.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula 18.1% asr-000229 00:08:03.200 --> 00:08:05.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong 2021, tungo sa asr-000230 00:08:05.200 --> 00:08:07.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 9.7% asr-000231 00:08:07.200 --> 00:08:09.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong 2025. Maaari po asr-000232 00:08:09.200 --> 00:08:11.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bang linawi ng DepDiv asr-000233 00:08:11.200 --> 00:08:13.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung anong ibig sabihin natin na asr-000234 00:08:13.200 --> 00:08:15.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa 8.8 million asr-000235 00:08:15.200 --> 00:08:17.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mga Pilipino ang aktual asr-000236 00:08:17.200 --> 00:08:19.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nagkaroon pa asr-000237 00:08:19.200 --> 00:08:21.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng matatag at asr-000238 00:08:21.200 --> 00:08:23.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sapat na kita o asr-000239 00:08:23.200 --> 00:08:25.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nangangahulugan lamang ito ng asr-000240 00:08:25.200 --> 00:08:27.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang kita ay lumagpas asr-000241 00:08:27.200 --> 00:08:29.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa naitakda na poverty threshold. asr-000244 00:08:54.660 --> 00:08:55.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, asr-000245 00:08:55.300 --> 00:08:57.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the DepDev asr-000246 00:08:57.180 --> 00:08:59.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: confirms that there asr-000247 00:08:59.780 --> 00:09:00.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: are 8.8 million asr-000248 00:09:00.880 --> 00:09:03.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: individuals asr-000249 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:05.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: who were lifted asr-000250 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: out of poverty from 2021 to 2025. asr-000251 00:09:09.340 --> 00:09:11.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The definition of that would be asr-000252 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they crossed the income threshold asr-000253 00:09:13.820 --> 00:09:17.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to the poverty line. asr-000254 00:09:18.280 --> 00:09:19.820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, maraming salamat po. asr-000255 00:09:19.980 --> 00:09:21.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa totoo lang, asr-000256 00:09:21.180 --> 00:09:23.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sinabi rin sa atin dito ng DSWD asr-000257 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:24.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po sila sa ating budget. asr-000258 00:09:25.260 --> 00:09:28.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa katunayan, yung maski yung mga asr-000259 00:09:28.420 --> 00:09:30.820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakalagpas na doon sa poverty threshold, asr-000260 00:09:30.820 --> 00:09:33.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga near poor ay talagang asr-000261 00:09:33.260 --> 00:09:35.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sobrang mga nangangailangan pa rin asr-000262 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:38.300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at marami ay walang sapat na kabuhayan, asr-000263 00:09:38.500 --> 00:09:40.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: walang sapat na pinagkakakitaan. asr-000264 00:09:40.620 --> 00:09:44.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya nga naman ay masasabi natin asr-000265 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:46.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na marami pa ring mga programa asr-000266 00:09:46.400 --> 00:09:47.420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang kinakailangan asr-000267 00:09:47.420 --> 00:09:49.600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak na yung mga sinasabi asr-000268 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:50.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga nakatawid asr-000269 00:09:50.460 --> 00:09:52.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mananatiling makatawid. asr-000270 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:53.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, asr-000271 00:09:53.840 --> 00:10:16.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano ba yung mga garantiya at mga programa na magtitiyak na yung mga kababayan natin na sinasabi natin na wala na doon sa poverty threshold, na sa tingin ho natin ay napakababa pa rin doon sa kasalukuyang mataas na presyo ng mga bilihin, asr-000272 00:10:16.740 --> 00:10:26.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ay mananatili sila na may mas mataas na opportunities na magkaroon ng disenting sahod at trabaho. asr-000273 00:10:26.520 --> 00:10:37.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa katunayan din, Madam Speaker, noong pumarap din dito ang DOLE, sinabi rin natin sa kanila yung concern din ng isa nating kasamahan tungkol sa mababang sahod. asr-000274 00:10:37.860 --> 00:10:46.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa na-report sa atin ng DepDev, sinabi nila na ang poverty threshold ngayon nasa 16,842 para sa pamilya ng lima sa NCR. asr-000275 00:10:46.740 --> 00:10:56.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa labas naman ito, nasa 14,634. Sa NCR pa lang, nasa 488 pesos lang po yan kada araw. asr-000276 00:10:57.280 --> 00:11:03.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit, kung sa NCR, medyo konting mas aangat yung minimum wage doon sa 488. asr-000277 00:11:04.560 --> 00:11:13.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero kung sa labas po ng NCR, nasa labing dalawa na region yung minimum wage na mas mababa sa threshold ng DepDev. asr-000278 00:11:13.520 --> 00:11:17.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kumbaga, hindi talaga sapat na isa lang yung nagtatrabaho. asr-000279 00:11:17.740 --> 00:11:26.900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kailangan pa maraming nagtatrabaho o may dagdag na pagkakakitaan yung mga miyembro ng isang household. asr-000280 00:11:27.220 --> 00:11:41.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At makikita natin yan doon sa presentation din ng DepDev na pagamat meron tayong nasa 4 million jobs generated from 2020 to date, asr-000281 00:11:41.520 --> 00:11:46.280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: marami naman dito ay underemployed. asr-000282 00:11:46.400 --> 00:11:54.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kumbaga, nagahanap pa ng dagdag na trabaho o kaya naman nadagdag doon sa kanilang current na pinagkakitaan asr-000283 00:11:54.220 --> 00:11:58.140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o kaya naman ay nagtatrabaho ng less than 40 hours per week. asr-000284 00:11:58.900 --> 00:12:06.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin, talagang nagahanap ng dagdag, dagdag na kita bilang pangsuporta sa kanilang mga pamilya. asr-000285 00:12:06.740 --> 00:12:10.260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po, meron tayong... asr-000286 00:12:11.520 --> 00:12:23.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito, napakalaki ng pondo natin para sa emergency assistance tulad ng TUPAD, ng AEC, ng MAEFIP para sa iba't ibang mga pangangailangan. asr-000287 00:12:23.540 --> 00:12:33.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero, konti lang yung pondo para doon sa mga programang pagpapanatili sa kanila doon sa labas ng poverty. asr-000288 00:12:33.940 --> 00:12:40.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa, yung Sustainable Livelihood Program, yung Micro-Small-Medium Enterprise Development Program. asr-000289 00:12:40.540 --> 00:12:50.060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sobrang konti lang yan, konting turot doon sa buong nabanggit natin ng mga programa na nasa daang-daang bilyon na. asr-000290 00:12:50.240 --> 00:13:00.900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, dito pa lang sa tingin ko, malaki na yung problema natin kung paano ba natin matitiyak na yung mga nakatawid ay hindi babalik doon sa lubos na kahirapan at gutom. asr-000291 00:13:02.420 --> 00:13:10.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, nais ko pong magtanong tungkol sa mga public-private partnership projects na meron. asr-000292 00:13:10.540 --> 00:13:20.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Halimbawa po, sa Naiya PPP Project, isa sa mga natagurian na fastest approved PPP proposal sa kasaysayan ng Pilipinas. asr-000293 00:13:21.880 --> 00:13:29.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagkatapos ng six weeks na evaluation, ito po ay naaprobahan ng NEDA noon, ngayon po ay Dep-Dev Board na. asr-000294 00:13:31.060 --> 00:13:38.880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang tanong ko, Madam Speaker, bago po ba ito maaprobahan, nagkaroon ba ng consultation sa mga affected stakeholders? asr-000295 00:13:40.540 --> 00:13:46.240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano ang naging mekanism ng consultation? Ilang stakeholder consultations ba ang naisagawa? asr-000296 00:13:46.780 --> 00:13:53.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sino-sino ang nakonsulta? At paano isinama sa concession agreement ang kanilang mga recommendations? asr-000297 00:14:05.380 --> 00:14:10.520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, tumatakbo po yung oras ko kahit hinihintay pa po natin. asr-000298 00:14:10.540 --> 00:14:12.220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang ating distinct sponsor. asr-000299 00:14:13.860 --> 00:14:15.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000300 00:14:17.640 --> 00:14:29.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, in terms of the creation of the feasibility study, that is where the consultations for all local stakeholders were relevant to that particular project. asr-000301 00:14:30.100 --> 00:14:31.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That is where it's conducted. asr-000302 00:14:33.540 --> 00:14:35.720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, for the record, nagkaroon po ng konsulta. asr-000303 00:14:40.540 --> 00:14:45.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, as for the Dep-Dev. asr-000304 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:57.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ilang stakeholder consultations po yung nangyari. At lahat po ba ng affected na mga sectors sa na-IA ay ating nakonsulta? asr-000305 00:14:57.880 --> 00:15:00.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At naipasok po ba yung kanilang mga... asr-000306 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:08.000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: rekomendasyon sa naging outcome ng pag-aproba ng proyekto na ito. asr-000307 00:15:08.880 --> 00:15:14.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the DepDev is currently pulling out all details regarding to the project. asr-000308 00:15:15.760 --> 00:15:21.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we will just wait and we will submit to our distinguished colleague. asr-000309 00:15:21.220 --> 00:15:51.200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-000310 00:15:51.220 --> 00:15:56.060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Abangan po natin ang ulat at submission mula sa ating distinguished sponsor at sa DepDev. asr-000311 00:15:56.740 --> 00:16:02.140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman po ay kaugnay ng lumalaganap na privatization at mollification ng mga palengke. asr-000312 00:16:03.020 --> 00:16:12.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nasa palisiya ba ng pamahalaan na maipaubaya sa malalaking retailers yung pagpapaunlad ng ating public markets ngayon sa buong bansa? asr-000313 00:16:20.560 --> 00:16:21.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-000314 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:28.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But the particular circumstance of that, Madam Speaker, that would be under the purview of the local government unit. asr-000315 00:16:31.340 --> 00:16:37.640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagamat, anan dyan po ang responsibilidad ng local government units noong pagdating sa market administration, asr-000316 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:50.920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: anan dyan din naman yung role halimbawa ng PPP Center pagdating sa pagtitiyak ng mga requirements at ng mga proposals na ito, lalong-lalo na sa mga USPs. asr-000317 00:16:51.200 --> 00:17:08.180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para matiyak na ito po ay hindi lang sumusunod sa mga requirements pero tumutugon din sa interest ng publiko, yung mutual benefits po ng publiko pati po ng privado pagdating sa ganitong mga proyekto. asr-000318 00:17:08.180 --> 00:17:21.180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ang panawagan ng ating mga public markets, public and people partners, lalong-lalo na sa public markets na may mga vendors associations, retailers associations. asr-000319 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:30.840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Talagang people-powered yung ating mga public markets at sila po ay handang-handa kumbaga tuminding para maisalba ang kanilang public markets. asr-000320 00:17:31.260 --> 00:17:37.560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil nakita din natin, Madam Speaker, sa maraming lugar na may PPP ang kanilang mga merkado. asr-000321 00:17:38.500 --> 00:17:46.400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na pag malalaking retailers yung pumasok sa kanilang mga markets, namamatay talaga yung mga maliliit na mga manininda. asr-000322 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:51.040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, tungkol po sa monitoring ng PPP. asr-000323 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:59.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po ba kayong evaluation pagdating sa mga PPP projects? asr-000324 00:18:00.260 --> 00:18:12.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakikita niyo po ba halimbawa sa case ng naiya privatization na kapag tumataas po yung fees sa airport o halimbawa po nung tayo ay humarap sa oil price shock, asr-000325 00:18:12.980 --> 00:18:20.980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lahat po ng ka-up airports nagkaroon ng pag-suspend ng mga increases sa kanilang mga passenger service charges. asr-000326 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:44.280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pagdating naman sa rental fees ng vendors, marami pong mga PPPs na mga markets nakabatay na yung kanilang increases sa rental fees at iba't-ibang mga fees. asr-000327 00:18:44.280 --> 00:18:49.500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi na po sa LGU pero nakabatay na kung sino private nila na partner. asr-000328 00:18:50.020 --> 00:18:51.180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron po bang monitoring? asr-000329 00:18:51.200 --> 00:19:01.940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi na po bang monitoring at evaluation ang PPP center pagdating sa ganitong mga kaso at meron ba tayong mechanism for redress of grievances in these instances? asr-000330 00:19:04.460 --> 00:19:12.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, it would depend on the project. It's a project by project. It's a case by case basis. asr-000331 00:19:12.580 --> 00:19:19.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It would depend on what the provisions are in the terms of contract of the project. asr-000332 00:19:19.020 --> 00:19:21.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, I was assured... asr-000333 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:34.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I was assured by the DEF-DEF that at least in terms of seeking redress just in case there are problems or challenges then there is a mechanism that... asr-000334 00:19:34.460 --> 00:19:41.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There is a mechanism established where those who have grievances can report directly to the PPP center. asr-000335 00:19:41.460 --> 00:19:50.540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ngayon po ba meron kayong mga kaso na hinahawakan tungkol dito na halimbawa ang isang partner LGU ay nais na pong putulin, asr-000336 00:19:50.540 --> 00:20:04.460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung baga wakasan na yung kanilang kontrata na napirmahan sa panahon na hindi po nasusunod yung mga dapat na basunod na nakasaalang-alang pa rin yung interest ng publiko. asr-000337 00:20:05.260 --> 00:20:17.340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sabi nga natin, di ba, partnership, pagdating sa mutual interest, mutual benefits, at hindi po yung isa lang ang pinakanakikinabang habang nasasakripisyo yung interest ng publiko. asr-000338 00:20:18.220 --> 00:20:19.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-000339 00:20:20.540 --> 00:20:30.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The PPP center has, it's handling cases where there are complaints with regards to privatization projects. asr-000340 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:32.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We will just furnish you a copy because it's quite voluminous. asr-000341 00:20:34.060 --> 00:20:48.120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, at nananawagan din po ang representative ito dahil sa mga narinig natin ng mga issues at binanggit din ng ating sponsor na may mga complaints sa ngayon na hinaharap ang PPP center. asr-000342 00:20:48.120 --> 00:20:49.740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa tingin ko, panahon na rin. asr-000343 00:20:50.540 --> 00:20:55.640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, ma-repaso, ma-review ng kapulungan na ito ang ating PPP center. asr-000344 00:20:55.640 --> 00:21:08.180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: So, alam ko po, relatibong bago ito pero nung naipasan natin yung bago, di ba, marami din pong mga sumulpot na mga issues, mga concerns na nasa tungkulin natin na pakinggan at bigyan ng aksyon. asr-000345 00:21:08.740 --> 00:21:13.160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yun lamang sa ngayon. Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor. asr-000346 00:21:14.040 --> 00:21:14.760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Majority Leader. asr-000348 00:21:16.060 --> 00:21:20.520 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we call on the Honorable Rene Luis Co. asr-000349 00:21:20.540 --> 00:21:24.320 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list for her interpellation. asr-000350 00:21:25.040 --> 00:21:29.920 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Rene Luis Co of the Kabataan Party-list is now recognized for her interpellation. asr-000351 00:21:30.780 --> 00:21:36.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening to our distinguished sponsor at 10 p.m. asr-000352 00:21:37.660 --> 00:21:46.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, my question is in relation to the Philippine Development Plan 2023 to 2028, asr-000353 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:49.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we'd like to be enlightened as to... asr-000354 00:21:50.540 --> 00:21:57.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: some parts of it and even updates given that the funding that we're discussing asr-000355 00:21:57.700 --> 00:22:04.560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will be about the second to the last year for the implementation of the Philippine Development Plan. asr-000356 00:22:05.320 --> 00:22:10.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, within the Philippine Development Plan 2023 to 2028, I quote, asr-000357 00:22:10.760 --> 00:22:17.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it is said that education policies have undermined better performing private schools asr-000358 00:22:17.620 --> 00:22:19.760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as seen in the declining share... asr-000359 00:22:20.540 --> 00:22:23.600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in private school enrollment, end quote. asr-000360 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:27.620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, what does this mean? asr-000361 00:22:28.040 --> 00:22:33.820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this saying na negative key performance indicator ang pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools? asr-000362 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:43.220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For reference, this is page 45 of the Philippine Development Plan. asr-000363 00:22:59.500 --> 00:23:01.500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, if my time po... asr-000373 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:50.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, while the Department is pulling up the justifications behind it, asr-000374 00:25:50.540 --> 00:25:54.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Really, in terms of the declining share of private school enrollment, asr-000375 00:25:55.060 --> 00:25:59.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's really because this was crafted in 2022, asr-000376 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:07.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and during the pandemic period, a lot of private schools closed down. asr-000377 00:26:07.780 --> 00:26:09.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, at least on that part. asr-000379 00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:21.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With indulgence of our distinguished colleague, the Department is now pulling up the justification behind this statement. But rest assured, at least on the part of DepDev, asr-000380 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:40.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this is not, it won't be an indicator of development. It is quite an [unclear] statement to make. asr-000380-split-2 00:27:40.800 --> 00:27:49.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At least on the part of this representation, that's not really aligned also with what the Philippine Development Plan endeavors to do. asr-000381 00:27:49.800 --> 00:27:52.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I agree, Madam Speaker. asr-000383 00:27:52.900 --> 00:27:57.360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, under Article 14, Section 4 of the 1987 Constitution, asr-000384 00:27:57.660 --> 00:28:04.800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it says that the state recognizes the complementary roles of public and private institutions in the education system asr-000385 00:28:04.800 --> 00:28:10.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and shall exercise reasonable supervision and regulation of all educational institutions. asr-000386 00:28:11.220 --> 00:28:13.960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We are alarmed by this statement, Madam Speaker, asr-000387 00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:20.400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because EDCOM 2 has noted the trend in state universities and colleges, asr-000388 00:28:20.540 --> 00:28:31.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as well as even basic educational institutions of the increase in enrollment in public educational institutions, asr-000389 00:28:31.860 --> 00:28:37.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: especially because of the advent of the universal access to quality tertiary education. asr-000390 00:28:37.820 --> 00:28:44.380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, to see this statement is alarming because it is saying, asr-000391 00:28:44.560 --> 00:28:47.540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we're still continuously wondering what it's saying particularly, asr-000392 00:28:47.540 --> 00:28:49.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is it saying na, asr-000393 00:28:50.540 --> 00:28:57.240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung pagbaba ng kalidad ng administrasyon ay sanhi ng pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools? asr-000394 00:28:57.820 --> 00:29:00.860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Or is it saying na ang pagbaba ng enrollment sa private schools asr-000395 00:29:00.860 --> 00:29:05.900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay may implication din po ba ng pagbaba ng kalidad ng edukasyon? asr-000396 00:29:06.320 --> 00:29:15.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And does that not violate the complementarity principle of private and public education institutions as provided by the Constitution? asr-000397 00:29:15.060 --> 00:29:20.060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, can the Department submit a written explanation? asr-000398 00:29:20.540 --> 00:29:26.940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, can the Department submit a written explanation for this statement which is in the Philippine Development Plan? asr-000399 00:29:26.940 --> 00:29:39.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And if it would like to roll back maybe on that statement so as to not violate the complementarity principle of public and private educational institutions? asr-000400 00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:40.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker? asr-000401 00:29:41.500 --> 00:29:44.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, Honorable Co. asr-000402 00:29:44.380 --> 00:29:50.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that will comply, particularly with the detailed justification of why this, asr-000403 00:29:50.540 --> 00:29:53.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, statement was put inside the Philippine Development Plan. asr-000404 00:29:53.860 --> 00:29:54.120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes. asr-000405 00:29:54.560 --> 00:29:56.480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, just as a final note, asr-000406 00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ah, it has not escaped this representation. asr-000407 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:11.280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: attention that there has been an increase in policies wherein there is an intent to roll back asr-000408 00:30:11.280 --> 00:30:19.720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: support of the state to educational institutions, whether it be for pushing for public-private asr-000409 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:25.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: partnerships in the creation of classrooms or the pushing of public-private partnerships asr-000410 00:30:25.700 --> 00:30:32.160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in creating commercial spaces in higher educational institutions so as they could be asr-000411 00:30:32.840 --> 00:30:41.080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: fiscally autonomous and thereby, at the end of the day, just provide justification for asr-000412 00:30:41.080 --> 00:30:48.180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: either cutting or lessening the budget to be allocated to them, which to this representation asr-000413 00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:53.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: might be averse to the targets provided in the PDP itself. asr-000414 00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:55.640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Under this, asr-000415 00:30:55.700 --> 00:31:04.440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I think page 48, it also says that government spending on education will be increased to 4-6% asr-000416 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:13.740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of GDP in line with the Education 2030 Framework for Action. So, unfortunately, it is also this asr-000417 00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:14.300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: um asr-000418 00:31:14.300 --> 00:31:25.580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the provision of the NEP that the GDP to budget ratio to education has been, asr-000419 00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:47.340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lessened to around 3.95%, so I'd like to ask, kamusta po ba yung paggamit natin ng target na po ito na 6% of the GDP sana yung naka-allot sa education, given that we only have 2 years left to meet the targets of PDP? Madam Speaker. asr-000420 00:31:47.340 --> 00:31:50.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, thank you Madam Speaker. asr-000421 00:31:50.340 --> 00:31:55.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, at least in the Philippine Development Plan, asr-000422 00:31:55.700 --> 00:31:59.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as has been the policy of the national government, asr-000423 00:31:59.700 --> 00:32:02.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: education has to be a priority. asr-000424 00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:04.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Unfortunately, asr-000425 00:32:04.700 --> 00:32:09.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev's mandate is really just to formulate policies and recommend asr-000426 00:32:09.700 --> 00:32:16.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: those policies, but it doesn't have power over the actual allocation of budget asr-000427 00:32:16.700 --> 00:32:19.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the education sector. asr-000428 00:32:19.700 --> 00:32:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May this representation ask, how has the department asr-000429 00:32:22.700 --> 00:32:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: either asr-000430 00:32:24.700 --> 00:32:27.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: formulated a plan asr-000431 00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:29.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or forwarded asr-000432 00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:31.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the meeting of the target asr-000433 00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:33.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that there ought to be 6% asr-000434 00:32:33.700 --> 00:32:35.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the budget asr-000435 00:32:35.700 --> 00:32:37.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: allocated, equivalent asr-000436 00:32:37.700 --> 00:32:39.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our GDP, allocated asr-000437 00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:41.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to education? So, asr-000438 00:32:41.700 --> 00:32:43.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as we know, it could have went to classrooms, asr-000439 00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:45.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it could have went to feeding programs, asr-000440 00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:47.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it could have went to the many capital outlay asr-000441 00:32:47.700 --> 00:32:49.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: requests of our asr-000442 00:32:49.700 --> 00:32:51.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: state universities and colleges. asr-000443 00:32:51.700 --> 00:32:53.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Unfortunately, what is asr-000444 00:32:53.700 --> 00:32:54.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: still observable asr-000445 00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:56.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is that 49 asr-000446 00:32:56.700 --> 00:32:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: out of the 113 asr-000447 00:32:58.700 --> 00:33:00.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: state universities and colleges asr-000448 00:33:00.700 --> 00:33:02.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: suffered asr-000449 00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:04.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a lowering asr-000450 00:33:04.700 --> 00:33:06.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of their budgets compared to last year, asr-000451 00:33:06.700 --> 00:33:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we call it a budget cut. asr-000452 00:33:08.700 --> 00:33:10.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We also noticed the lowering, asr-000453 00:33:10.700 --> 00:33:12.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a historic high asr-000454 00:33:12.700 --> 00:33:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the Department of Education asr-000455 00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: compared to last year. asr-000456 00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, we'd like to be enlightened asr-000457 00:33:18.700 --> 00:33:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: how has the department asr-000458 00:33:20.700 --> 00:33:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pushed forward for the meeting asr-000459 00:33:22.700 --> 00:33:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this target? asr-000460 00:33:24.700 --> 00:33:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. asr-000473 00:33:52.700 --> 00:33:54.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, most of the policies asr-000474 00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:56.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that the DepDev asr-000475 00:33:56.700 --> 00:33:58.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: has recommended asr-000476 00:33:58.700 --> 00:34:00.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: all were recommended asr-000477 00:34:00.700 --> 00:34:02.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to the EDCOM, the Education Committee. asr-000478 00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:04.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, asr-000479 00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:06.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least the DepDev is very asr-000480 00:34:06.700 --> 00:34:08.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: active, not just as asr-000481 00:34:08.700 --> 00:34:10.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: part of the Council, but asr-000482 00:34:10.700 --> 00:34:12.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: even the Technical Secretariat. asr-000483 00:34:12.700 --> 00:34:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, asr-000484 00:34:14.700 --> 00:34:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of course, asr-000485 00:34:16.700 --> 00:34:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we appreciate the work of asr-000486 00:34:18.700 --> 00:34:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the DepDev in recommending to EDCOM, asr-000487 00:34:20.700 --> 00:34:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but, asr-000488 00:34:22.700 --> 00:34:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: perhaps, it ought to also asr-000489 00:34:24.700 --> 00:34:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: consider asr-000490 00:34:26.700 --> 00:34:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: what are the economic asr-000491 00:34:28.700 --> 00:34:30.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: effects, the development effects, asr-000492 00:34:30.700 --> 00:34:32.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the social effects as well, asr-000493 00:34:32.700 --> 00:34:34.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if the targets asr-000494 00:34:34.700 --> 00:34:36.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: provided in the Philippine Development Plan asr-000495 00:34:36.700 --> 00:34:38.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are not met. asr-000496 00:34:38.700 --> 00:34:40.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, for now, asr-000497 00:34:40.700 --> 00:34:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I do not, asr-000498 00:34:42.700 --> 00:34:44.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation has not seen asr-000499 00:34:44.700 --> 00:34:46.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from EDCOM asr-000500 00:34:46.700 --> 00:34:48.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to any particular asr-000501 00:34:48.700 --> 00:34:50.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: targeting of asr-000502 00:34:50.700 --> 00:34:52.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a budgetary asr-000503 00:34:52.700 --> 00:34:54.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: threshold of 6% asr-000504 00:34:54.700 --> 00:34:56.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: equivalent asr-000505 00:34:56.700 --> 00:34:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our GDP asr-000506 00:34:58.700 --> 00:35:00.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that is only found asr-000507 00:35:00.700 --> 00:35:02.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the Philippine Development Plan asr-000508 00:35:02.700 --> 00:35:04.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the 2030 asr-000509 00:35:04.700 --> 00:35:06.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: framework, asr-000510 00:35:06.700 --> 00:35:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Education 2030 Framework for Action asr-000511 00:35:08.700 --> 00:35:10.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even in this representation's asr-000512 00:35:10.700 --> 00:35:12.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bills, resolutions, asr-000513 00:35:12.700 --> 00:35:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: privileged speeches asr-000514 00:35:14.700 --> 00:35:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in the asr-000515 00:35:16.700 --> 00:35:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: August Chamber. So, Madam Speaker, asr-000516 00:35:18.700 --> 00:35:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we look forward to asr-000517 00:35:20.700 --> 00:35:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at least the report asr-000518 00:35:22.700 --> 00:35:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that was requested by asr-000519 00:35:24.700 --> 00:35:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation today, asr-000520 00:35:26.700 --> 00:35:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and we'd like to reiterate again asr-000521 00:35:28.700 --> 00:35:30.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that we notice asr-000522 00:35:30.700 --> 00:35:32.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the trend where the asr-000523 00:35:32.700 --> 00:35:34.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: government favors instead asr-000524 00:35:34.700 --> 00:35:36.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the interests of asr-000525 00:35:36.700 --> 00:35:38.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: big businesses asr-000526 00:35:38.700 --> 00:35:40.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or even the private sector asr-000527 00:35:40.700 --> 00:35:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: over that of the asr-000528 00:35:42.700 --> 00:35:44.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: public investment asr-000529 00:35:44.700 --> 00:35:46.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on the education asr-000530 00:35:46.700 --> 00:35:48.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of the Filipino youth asr-000531 00:35:48.700 --> 00:35:50.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: should this trend continue, asr-000532 00:35:50.700 --> 00:35:52.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: whether it finds asr-000533 00:35:52.700 --> 00:35:54.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: justification or support with this statement. asr-000534 00:35:54.700 --> 00:35:56.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, asr-000535 00:35:56.700 --> 00:35:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we look forward to that report. asr-000536 00:35:58.700 --> 00:36:00.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next and last line of questioning asr-000537 00:36:00.700 --> 00:36:02.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would be about asr-000538 00:36:02.700 --> 00:36:04.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Critical Minerals asr-000539 00:36:04.700 --> 00:36:06.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Memorandum of Understanding. asr-000540 00:36:06.700 --> 00:36:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We are asr-000541 00:36:08.700 --> 00:36:10.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one of the several asr-000542 00:36:10.700 --> 00:36:12.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: countries with which asr-000543 00:36:12.700 --> 00:36:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the United States has entered asr-000544 00:36:14.700 --> 00:36:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: into a Critical Minerals asr-000545 00:36:16.700 --> 00:36:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Agreement after it has asr-000546 00:36:18.700 --> 00:36:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: conducted several Critical Minerals asr-000547 00:36:20.700 --> 00:36:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Commits and Meetings asr-000548 00:36:22.700 --> 00:36:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wherein they asr-000549 00:36:24.700 --> 00:36:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sought to asr-000550 00:36:26.700 --> 00:36:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: enter into agreements asr-000551 00:36:28.700 --> 00:36:30.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or arrangements asr-000552 00:36:30.700 --> 00:36:32.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where the United States and the Philippines asr-000553 00:36:32.700 --> 00:36:34.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: both have asr-000554 00:36:34.700 --> 00:36:36.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: first look asr-000555 00:36:36.700 --> 00:36:38.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: preferential treatment over asr-000556 00:36:38.700 --> 00:36:40.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any critical minerals to be asr-000557 00:36:40.700 --> 00:36:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: explored or asr-000558 00:36:42.700 --> 00:36:44.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to be exported asr-000559 00:36:44.700 --> 00:36:46.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in both countries. asr-000560 00:36:46.700 --> 00:36:48.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But Madam Speaker, good sponsor, asr-000561 00:36:48.700 --> 00:36:50.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation has had the opportunity asr-000562 00:36:50.700 --> 00:36:52.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to look at the provisions asr-000563 00:36:52.700 --> 00:36:54.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and it looks like asr-000564 00:36:54.700 --> 00:36:56.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we are giving great preference asr-000565 00:36:56.700 --> 00:36:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to how the United States asr-000566 00:36:58.700 --> 00:37:00.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may have asr-000567 00:37:00.700 --> 00:37:02.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: first access asr-000568 00:37:02.700 --> 00:37:04.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to our minerals, asr-000569 00:37:04.700 --> 00:37:06.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: materials, asr-000570 00:37:06.700 --> 00:37:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that could asr-000571 00:37:08.700 --> 00:37:10.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tie asr-000572 00:37:10.700 --> 00:37:12.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: our opportunities asr-000573 00:37:12.700 --> 00:37:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even asr-000574 00:37:14.700 --> 00:37:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: engagements that we could enter into freely asr-000575 00:37:16.700 --> 00:37:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: with other states. asr-000576 00:37:18.700 --> 00:37:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may I ask if the asr-000577 00:37:20.700 --> 00:37:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department of Development has reviewed asr-000578 00:37:22.700 --> 00:37:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the possible impacts and or trade-offs asr-000579 00:37:24.700 --> 00:37:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this Memorandum of asr-000580 00:37:26.700 --> 00:37:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Understanding? asr-000581 00:37:32.700 --> 00:37:34.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-000582 00:37:34.700 --> 00:37:36.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: just to be clear, asr-000583 00:37:36.700 --> 00:37:38.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's the Critical Minerals Agreement asr-000584 00:37:38.700 --> 00:37:40.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: between the Philippines and the US? asr-000585 00:37:40.700 --> 00:37:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes. asr-000586 00:37:46.700 --> 00:37:48.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to give details asr-000587 00:37:48.700 --> 00:37:50.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: about this asr-000588 00:37:50.700 --> 00:37:52.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: MoU, asr-000589 00:37:52.700 --> 00:37:54.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this Memorandum of Understanding, asr-000590 00:37:54.700 --> 00:37:56.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it was signed in February 4, 2026. asr-000591 00:37:56.700 --> 00:37:58.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The signatories are asr-000592 00:37:58.700 --> 00:38:00.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then asr-000593 00:38:00.700 --> 00:38:02.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEN Secretary asr-000594 00:38:02.700 --> 00:38:04.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and Secretary asr-000595 00:38:04.700 --> 00:38:06.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Jacob Helberg. asr-000596 00:38:06.700 --> 00:38:08.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, at least on the part of asr-000597 00:38:08.700 --> 00:38:10.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev, it's not really involved with asr-000598 00:38:10.700 --> 00:38:12.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this asr-000599 00:38:12.700 --> 00:38:14.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: proposed MoU. asr-000600 00:38:14.700 --> 00:38:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The question, asr-000601 00:38:16.700 --> 00:38:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, asr-000602 00:38:18.700 --> 00:38:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that this representation is posing, asr-000603 00:38:20.700 --> 00:38:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: whether the Department has asr-000604 00:38:22.700 --> 00:38:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: had the opportunity to review asr-000605 00:38:24.700 --> 00:38:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the possible impacts and trade-offs asr-000606 00:38:26.700 --> 00:38:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from this agreement in terms asr-000607 00:38:28.700 --> 00:38:30.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of Philippine development. asr-000608 00:38:30.700 --> 00:38:32.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Because as it stands, asr-000609 00:38:32.700 --> 00:38:34.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it's this asr-000610 00:38:34.700 --> 00:38:36.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: representation's analysis that it will asr-000611 00:38:36.700 --> 00:38:38.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: benefit asr-000612 00:38:38.700 --> 00:38:40.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the development of the United asr-000613 00:38:40.700 --> 00:38:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: States in how asr-000614 00:38:42.700 --> 00:38:44.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: it can have a grasp asr-000615 00:38:44.700 --> 00:38:46.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on critical minerals, asr-000616 00:38:46.700 --> 00:38:48.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its processing, asr-000617 00:38:48.700 --> 00:38:50.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: its manufacture of different asr-000618 00:38:50.700 --> 00:38:52.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: materials relating asr-000619 00:38:52.700 --> 00:38:54.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to it across the asr-000620 00:38:54.700 --> 00:38:56.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: world. How will that impact Philippine asr-000621 00:38:56.700 --> 00:38:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development, Madam Speaker, good sponsor? asr-000622 00:38:58.700 --> 00:39:00.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Thank you, asr-000623 00:39:00.700 --> 00:39:02.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Given asr-000624 00:39:02.700 --> 00:39:04.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that it's only a Memorandum of Understanding, asr-000625 00:39:04.700 --> 00:39:06.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this particular asr-000626 00:39:06.700 --> 00:39:08.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: MoU, DepDev asr-000627 00:39:08.700 --> 00:39:10.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: has yet to review asr-000628 00:39:10.700 --> 00:39:12.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the effects asr-000629 00:39:12.700 --> 00:39:14.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of it. asr-000630 00:39:14.700 --> 00:39:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But Madam Speaker, good sponsor, asr-000631 00:39:16.700 --> 00:39:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation has noticed asr-000632 00:39:18.700 --> 00:39:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that just last month, asr-000633 00:39:20.700 --> 00:39:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Office of the President, asr-000634 00:39:22.700 --> 00:39:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Malacanang, signed asr-000635 00:39:24.700 --> 00:39:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Executive Order No. asr-000636 00:39:26.700 --> 00:39:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 122, which asr-000637 00:39:28.700 --> 00:39:30.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: creates a critical minerals asr-000638 00:39:30.700 --> 00:39:32.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: framework never before seen asr-000639 00:39:32.700 --> 00:39:34.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in our jurisdiction. asr-000640 00:39:34.700 --> 00:39:36.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But just after asr-000641 00:39:36.700 --> 00:39:38.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: there was a asr-000642 00:39:38.700 --> 00:39:40.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: signing this year of asr-000643 00:39:40.700 --> 00:39:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a critical minerals agreement with the United States, asr-000644 00:39:42.700 --> 00:39:44.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we're now lining up asr-000645 00:39:44.700 --> 00:39:46.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: essentially asr-000646 00:39:46.700 --> 00:39:48.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where we can mine these critical minerals, asr-000647 00:39:48.700 --> 00:39:50.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: what processes are going to be asr-000648 00:39:50.700 --> 00:39:52.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: involved, who are going to be our partners, asr-000649 00:39:52.700 --> 00:39:54.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: etc. It seems like, asr-000650 00:39:54.700 --> 00:39:56.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, asr-000651 00:39:56.700 --> 00:39:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that this asr-000652 00:39:58.700 --> 00:40:00.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: EO 122 is triggered asr-000653 00:40:00.700 --> 00:40:02.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by the attention we're putting asr-000654 00:40:02.700 --> 00:40:04.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: into, and of course, by asr-000655 00:40:04.700 --> 00:40:06.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the commitment asr-000656 00:40:06.700 --> 00:40:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or understanding we have with the United asr-000657 00:40:08.700 --> 00:40:10.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: States on critical asr-000658 00:40:10.700 --> 00:40:12.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: minerals. So this surely asr-000659 00:40:12.700 --> 00:40:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: has to have impact on Philippine development. asr-000660 00:40:14.700 --> 00:40:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Has the DepDev not asr-000661 00:40:16.700 --> 00:40:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: provided any asr-000662 00:40:18.700 --> 00:40:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: input in the creation asr-000663 00:40:20.700 --> 00:40:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of EO 122? asr-000664 00:40:24.700 --> 00:40:26.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, asr-000665 00:40:26.700 --> 00:40:28.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: distinguished colleague. As of asr-000666 00:40:28.700 --> 00:40:30.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: today, the DepDev has not asr-000667 00:40:30.700 --> 00:40:32.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yet conducted an assessment asr-000668 00:40:32.700 --> 00:40:34.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or review with regards to asr-000669 00:40:34.700 --> 00:40:36.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: EO 122. asr-000670 00:40:36.700 --> 00:40:38.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, if it would be asr-000671 00:40:38.700 --> 00:40:40.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: possible, asr-000672 00:40:40.700 --> 00:40:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation would like the asr-000673 00:40:42.700 --> 00:40:44.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department to look at EO 122 asr-000674 00:40:44.700 --> 00:40:46.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and asr-000675 00:40:46.700 --> 00:40:48.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of course, the impacts asr-000676 00:40:48.700 --> 00:40:50.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of this understanding asr-000677 00:40:50.700 --> 00:40:52.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the subsequent asr-000678 00:40:52.700 --> 00:40:54.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: action asr-000679 00:40:54.700 --> 00:40:56.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by our Executive asr-000680 00:40:56.700 --> 00:40:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department that will asr-000681 00:40:58.700 --> 00:41:00.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be followed by asr-000682 00:41:00.700 --> 00:41:02.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: different agencies to be asr-000683 00:41:02.700 --> 00:41:04.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: instructed, directed to asr-000684 00:41:06.700 --> 00:41:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: fall in line with the critical minerals asr-000685 00:41:08.700 --> 00:41:10.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: framework because asr-000686 00:41:10.700 --> 00:41:12.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I have heard in a separate asr-000687 00:41:12.700 --> 00:41:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: budget discussion on asr-000688 00:41:14.700 --> 00:41:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the DNR that there are asr-000689 00:41:16.700 --> 00:41:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: many representatives here that asr-000690 00:41:18.700 --> 00:41:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: abhor mining in asr-000691 00:41:20.700 --> 00:41:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: their districts. But asr-000692 00:41:22.700 --> 00:41:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: if EO 122 asr-000693 00:41:24.700 --> 00:41:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: identifies asr-000694 00:41:26.700 --> 00:41:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: some, if I'm not mistaken, asr-000695 00:41:28.700 --> 00:41:30.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: either 90,000 or 900,000 asr-000696 00:41:30.700 --> 00:41:32.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hectares of asr-000697 00:41:32.700 --> 00:41:34.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: land that can asr-000698 00:41:34.700 --> 00:41:36.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be the subject of asr-000699 00:41:36.700 --> 00:41:38.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mining application asr-000700 00:41:38.700 --> 00:41:40.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: permits because asr-000701 00:41:40.700 --> 00:41:42.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: they may contain critical minerals, asr-000702 00:41:42.700 --> 00:41:44.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that will have asr-000703 00:41:44.700 --> 00:41:46.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: insurmountable impacts on our asr-000704 00:41:46.700 --> 00:41:48.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: development, whether that be asr-000705 00:41:48.700 --> 00:41:50.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: regional or asr-000706 00:41:50.700 --> 00:41:52.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at a national scale. asr-000707 00:41:52.700 --> 00:41:54.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So the Department ought to asr-000708 00:41:54.700 --> 00:41:56.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not only be asr-000709 00:41:56.700 --> 00:41:58.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: looped in in these discussions asr-000710 00:41:58.700 --> 00:42:00.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but even on top of it. asr-000711 00:42:00.700 --> 00:42:02.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So as to ensure that asr-000712 00:42:02.700 --> 00:42:04.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any development has to happen asr-000713 00:42:04.700 --> 00:42:06.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the asr-000714 00:42:06.700 --> 00:42:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not at the asr-000715 00:42:08.700 --> 00:42:10.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the Philippines, asr-000716 00:42:10.700 --> 00:42:12.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: for the Filipino people and not asr-000717 00:42:12.700 --> 00:42:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at the behest or for asr-000718 00:42:14.700 --> 00:42:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: a foreign state. asr-000719 00:42:16.700 --> 00:42:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, asr-000720 00:42:18.700 --> 00:42:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any report or asr-000721 00:42:20.700 --> 00:42:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of their findings would be appreciated asr-000722 00:42:22.700 --> 00:42:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that can be asr-000723 00:42:24.700 --> 00:42:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: submitted alongside our asr-000724 00:42:26.700 --> 00:42:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: requested one on asr-000725 00:42:28.700 --> 00:42:30.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Philippine Development Plan asr-000726 00:42:30.700 --> 00:42:32.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statements asr-000727 00:42:32.700 --> 00:42:34.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on education. Madam Speaker, good sponsor. asr-000728 00:42:34.700 --> 00:42:36.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, thank you Madam Speaker. asr-000729 00:42:36.700 --> 00:42:38.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: You have the assurance asr-000730 00:42:38.700 --> 00:42:40.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable Co of asr-000731 00:42:40.700 --> 00:42:42.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Secretary Balisakan and the whole asr-000732 00:42:42.700 --> 00:42:44.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev family that once the asr-000733 00:42:44.700 --> 00:42:46.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev is looped in into asr-000734 00:42:46.700 --> 00:42:48.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the implementation of EO asr-000735 00:42:48.700 --> 00:42:50.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 122, it will look asr-000736 00:42:50.700 --> 00:42:52.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: into asr-000737 00:42:52.700 --> 00:42:54.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: all of these concerns asr-000738 00:42:54.700 --> 00:42:56.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but as of now asr-000739 00:42:56.700 --> 00:42:58.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DepDev has not been looped in. asr-000740 00:42:58.700 --> 00:43:00.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maybe as a final manifestation asr-000741 00:43:00.700 --> 00:43:02.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, asr-000742 00:43:02.700 --> 00:43:04.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation finds it absurd that the asr-000743 00:43:04.700 --> 00:43:06.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Department of Development is asr-000744 00:43:06.700 --> 00:43:08.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not looped in or asr-000745 00:43:08.700 --> 00:43:10.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: even on top of this matter. asr-000746 00:43:10.700 --> 00:43:12.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In fact, as it stands asr-000747 00:43:12.700 --> 00:43:14.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: this representation is concerned asr-000748 00:43:14.700 --> 00:43:16.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are we secretly selling off asr-000749 00:43:16.700 --> 00:43:18.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: our mineral resources to the United States asr-000750 00:43:18.700 --> 00:43:20.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: without our knowledge? asr-000751 00:43:20.700 --> 00:43:22.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this the framework that asr-000752 00:43:22.700 --> 00:43:24.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the United States is entering into asr-000753 00:43:24.700 --> 00:43:26.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that different countries asr-000754 00:43:26.700 --> 00:43:28.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: are also being involved in asr-000755 00:43:28.700 --> 00:43:30.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at this rate? So asr-000756 00:43:30.700 --> 00:43:32.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: any feedback from the Department asr-000757 00:43:32.700 --> 00:43:34.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would be greatly appreciated Madam Speaker, good sponsor. asr-000758 00:43:34.700 --> 00:43:36.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That is all. asr-000759 00:43:36.700 --> 00:43:38.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you Madam Speaker. asr-000760 00:43:44.700 --> 00:43:46.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: That is all Madam Speaker. asr-000761 00:43:46.700 --> 00:43:48.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I yield to the floor. Thank you. asr-000762 00:43:48.700 --> 00:43:50.700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Majority Leader, asr-000763 00:43:50.700 --> 00:43:52.700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker. asr-000764 00:43:52.700 --> 00:43:54.700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we recognize asr-000765 00:43:54.700 --> 00:43:56.700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Representative Iris Marie asr-000766 00:43:56.700 --> 00:43:58.700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Demesa Montes of the 4K asr-000767 00:43:58.700 --> 00:44:00.700 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Partylist for her interpolation. asr-000768 00:44:00.700 --> 00:44:02.700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Iris Marie asr-000769 00:44:02.700 --> 00:44:04.700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Demesa Montes of 4K Partylist asr-000770 00:44:04.700 --> 00:44:06.700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is now recognized for her interpolation. asr-000771 00:44:06.700 --> 00:44:08.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you Madam Speaker. asr-000772 00:44:08.700 --> 00:44:10.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: My questions asr-000773 00:44:10.700 --> 00:44:12.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: will, my first asr-000774 00:44:12.700 --> 00:44:14.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: question is asr-000775 00:44:14.700 --> 00:44:16.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for the DBM. asr-000776 00:44:16.700 --> 00:44:18.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: The proposed health asr-000777 00:44:18.700 --> 00:44:20.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: allocation is lower asr-000778 00:44:20.700 --> 00:44:22.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: than 95.7 billion asr-000779 00:44:22.700 --> 00:44:24.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: despite continuing asr-000780 00:44:24.700 --> 00:44:26.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: obligations under asr-000781 00:44:26.700 --> 00:44:28.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: RA 11223. asr-000782 00:44:28.700 --> 00:44:30.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: What explains this asr-000783 00:44:30.700 --> 00:44:32.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: decline, what criteria guided asr-000784 00:44:32.700 --> 00:44:34.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: it, and which programs and asr-000785 00:44:34.700 --> 00:44:36.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: services were reduced? asr-000799 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000800 00:45:25.640 --> 00:45:27.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: A couple of factors. asr-000801 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:32.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: One is the utilization of the HFEP, particularly in 2026. asr-000802 00:45:33.780 --> 00:45:38.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So for fiscal year 2027, we reverted back to NEP level. asr-000803 00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:43.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Second, there is a reduction to the MYFIP. asr-000804 00:45:43.820 --> 00:45:45.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Again, back to the NEP level. asr-000805 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Also, there is the factor of the one-time return of the 60 billion of PhilHealth funds, asr-000806 00:45:51.180 --> 00:45:54.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which we cannot be sustained for the coming year. asr-000807 00:45:56.300 --> 00:45:56.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. asr-000808 00:45:56.900 --> 00:46:01.640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May I, can you please repeat the one about PhilHealth? asr-000809 00:46:02.380 --> 00:46:04.920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Which one cannot be sustained? asr-000810 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:11.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Oh yes, this pertains to the Supreme Court decision, Madam Speaker. asr-000811 00:46:11.820 --> 00:46:14.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So there is a one-time return of 60 billion. asr-000812 00:46:15.120 --> 00:46:18.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay, thank you, thank you, good sponsor, Madam Speaker. asr-000813 00:46:19.080 --> 00:46:25.240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How much of the reduction represents genuine deficiency savings, if at all? asr-000814 00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:26.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And how much? asr-000815 00:46:26.900 --> 00:46:29.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: It simply means less government provision for health services. asr-000816 00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:53.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, really the reduction would not be about the efficiency rate. asr-000817 00:46:53.200 --> 00:46:56.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's really about the low absorptive capacity and the delays. asr-000818 00:46:56.980 --> 00:46:57.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And the implementation. asr-000819 00:46:59.040 --> 00:46:59.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. asr-000820 00:47:00.240 --> 00:47:03.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker. asr-000821 00:47:04.780 --> 00:47:11.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kapansin din po, bumaba ang alokasyon ng PhilHealth mula sa 129 billion ngayong taon asr-000822 00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:18.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: tungo sa 74 billion para sa 2027 o bawas ng 55 billion. asr-000823 00:47:19.740 --> 00:47:21.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Bakit po kaya ito binawasan? asr-000824 00:47:22.240 --> 00:47:26.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Gayong dapat lumalawak ang binipisyo at mas mabilis natin na, asr-000825 00:47:26.820 --> 00:47:30.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na aabot ang mga adhikain ng universal health care. asr-000826 00:47:31.160 --> 00:47:41.440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At kasama po ba doon sa 95.7 billion na binaba, itong 55 billion na binaba sa pondo ng PhilHealth? asr-000827 00:47:42.580 --> 00:47:46.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000828 00:47:48.200 --> 00:47:50.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, pertaining to what we mentioned, asr-000829 00:47:50.660 --> 00:47:56.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there was a 60 billion one-time return for PhilHealth Funds. asr-000830 00:47:56.820 --> 00:48:03.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, if you're accounting for that, actually, the 129 billion actually was just 69 billion. asr-000831 00:48:05.060 --> 00:48:09.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Actually, nadagdagan pa po by 5 billion for this year, PhilHealth. asr-000832 00:48:10.900 --> 00:48:11.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. asr-000833 00:48:12.200 --> 00:48:15.060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Sponsor, Madam Speaker. asr-000834 00:48:15.820 --> 00:48:19.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dahil ang UHC ay nakabatay po sa progressive realization, asr-000835 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:26.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: aling targets ang maaantala o hindi matutupad dahil sa nabawas na po, asr-000836 00:48:26.820 --> 00:48:32.060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa pondo lalo sa primary care, outpatient services at catastrophic services. asr-000837 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:40.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Actually, Madam Speaker, asr-000838 00:48:41.500 --> 00:48:45.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: pag nagdagdagan po, kasi kung natanggal po yung 60 billion, asr-000839 00:48:46.420 --> 00:48:48.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: actually, dagdagan pa po ng 5 billion. So, actually, wala po nabawas. asr-000840 00:48:49.520 --> 00:48:53.480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sige po. Kung atin pong igigiet and we follow that line of argument, asr-000841 00:48:54.160 --> 00:48:56.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung 60 billion po kasing binalik, asr-000842 00:48:56.820 --> 00:48:58.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: meron naman po talaga ng PhilHealth. asr-000843 00:48:58.720 --> 00:49:02.660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ibig sabihin, kung yan po ang argumento natin, asr-000844 00:49:03.040 --> 00:49:10.420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at this level, hindi pa rin nagbabago ang ibinibigay nating pondo para sa PhilHealth. asr-000845 00:49:10.420 --> 00:49:18.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, meaning, sa 65 billion dati na ibinigay at ngayon ay nagkakahalagan ng 74 billion asr-000846 00:49:18.700 --> 00:49:23.640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na kiniklaim po natin na nagdagdag pa ng 5 billion. Tama po? asr-000847 00:49:24.940 --> 00:49:26.720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ayon po sa Section 37. asr-000848 00:49:26.820 --> 00:49:33.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang RA 11223, malinaw na anim ang pinagkukuhanan ng pondo ng PhilHealth. asr-000849 00:49:34.600 --> 00:49:41.040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nandiyan dyan po yung sin tax revenues, yung PAGCOR share, yung PCSO share, asr-000850 00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:45.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung premium contributions, yung galing sa DOH appropriations, asr-000851 00:49:46.700 --> 00:49:50.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at national government subsidy sa GAA. asr-000852 00:49:50.720 --> 00:49:52.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, anim po na items. asr-000853 00:49:52.560 --> 00:49:55.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Para sa 2027, magkano? asr-000854 00:49:56.820 --> 00:50:01.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 74 billion, paano po natin maibibreak down itong, asr-000855 00:50:01.720 --> 00:50:04.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: except of course, the premium contributions of members. asr-000856 00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:11.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ano po ang mag-a-account sa 74 billion na ito? asr-000857 00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:15.380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: How much is from the sin tax, from the PAGCOR, from the PCSO? asr-000858 00:50:18.640 --> 00:50:21.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, what does the 74 billion po represent? asr-000859 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:24.600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito. asr-000860 00:50:26.820 --> 00:50:32.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000861 00:50:32.520 --> 00:50:35.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 55 billion will come from national government subsidies. asr-000862 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:41.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 19 billion will come from a share of income from PAGCOR and PCSO. asr-000863 00:50:42.680 --> 00:50:44.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that is the 74. asr-000864 00:50:44.140 --> 00:50:46.060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: 55 billion will come from? asr-000865 00:50:46.600 --> 00:50:47.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: National government subsidy. asr-000866 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: National government. So, saan po yung sin tax? asr-000867 00:50:50.380 --> 00:50:53.780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Where is sin tax? Wala pong alokasyon dito ang sin tax? asr-000868 00:50:56.820 --> 00:51:05.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Subsidy po ito, because this is the first time I'm hearing that the government is going to give a 55 billion subsidy to PhilHealth. asr-000869 00:51:05.940 --> 00:51:12.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Because normally, in the past years, ang pinagagalingan po ng pondo ng PhilHealth ay sin tax lamang. asr-000870 00:51:13.040 --> 00:51:16.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. A point of clarification from the DBM. asr-000871 00:51:16.460 --> 00:51:18.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It is, the 55 billion is coming from the sin tax. asr-000872 00:51:19.140 --> 00:51:19.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sin tax. asr-000873 00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:20.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-000874 00:51:20.120 --> 00:51:26.680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, 55 billion sin tax, 19 billion from PCSO and PAGCOR. asr-000875 00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:27.600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: PAGCOR, is that correct? asr-000876 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:28.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-000877 00:51:29.380 --> 00:51:34.660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Itong 19 billion po ng PAGCOR, ano po ang nirepresent nito? asr-000878 00:51:35.200 --> 00:51:50.260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Siguro, tanungin ko na lamang po, simula noong 2022, magkano na po ang naibigay ng National Treasury sa PhilHealth mula sa share ng PAGCOR and PCSO? asr-000879 00:51:51.040 --> 00:51:53.480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi lumalabas po sa talaan. asr-000880 00:51:55.100 --> 00:51:56.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker. asr-000881 00:51:56.820 --> 00:51:57.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I'm good sponsor. asr-000882 00:51:57.580 --> 00:52:08.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Remember, last year, I took the floor and alam po ni Chair yun, nagkwenta po tayo kung magkano po ang utang ng gobyerno sa PhilHealth. asr-000883 00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:19.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At lumabas po doon sa aming tala na mahigit 200 milyon ang pagkukulang ng gobyerno sa PhilHealth. asr-000884 00:52:20.120 --> 00:52:26.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasama na po dyan yung mga arrears sa sin tax, PAGCOR and PCSO. asr-000885 00:52:26.820 --> 00:52:36.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sa talaan po ng PhilHealth ngayon, lumalabas na ang pagkukulang daw po, ang arrears daw po, ay 241 billion. asr-000886 00:52:37.820 --> 00:52:47.980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Does DBM confirm the figure? Is that also your figure? That the arrears are more or less 241 billion? asr-000887 00:52:56.820 --> 00:52:59.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000888 00:53:01.180 --> 00:53:08.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, the figure of the DBM is, the arrears would only be at 62 billion. asr-000889 00:53:10.900 --> 00:53:13.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 756,224,000. asr-000890 00:53:14.720 --> 00:53:20.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, dito po ibabawas yung 19 billion from the share. asr-000891 00:53:20.300 --> 00:53:26.400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I am surprised at the figure kasi last year nang nagkwentahan po kami sa floor, asr-000892 00:53:26.820 --> 00:53:33.140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: galing mismo po sa figure ng DOF and DBM, nasa 200 plus billion. asr-000893 00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:39.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Wala naman pong naidadagdag na pondo ang DBM, bakit po 62 billion na lang ito? asr-000894 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:47.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nagbayad po ba or nagbigay po ba ng supplemental or additional funding ang DBM nang hindi nalalaman? asr-000895 00:53:48.780 --> 00:53:53.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Para mabawasan ng ganito kalaking halaga yung arrears nila dapat, supposedly? asr-000896 00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:58.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-000897 00:53:58.700 --> 00:54:04.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The 62 billion in arrears are for the PAGCOR and PCSO. asr-000898 00:54:05.560 --> 00:54:18.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, for the sin taxes, the updated figure would be 143,878,444,000. asr-000899 00:54:18.980 --> 00:54:23.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. Madam Speaker, good sponsor. asr-000900 00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:30.100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And can I just please request an official list from the DBM of the arrears asr-000901 00:54:30.100 --> 00:54:37.400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and to be broken down sa mga specific items po na kailangan nilang ibigay. asr-000902 00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:42.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung arrears from the sin tax remittances, PAGCOR and PCSO share, asr-000903 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:53.100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and in fact, meron dapat nga po silang babayaran na may legacy receivable po dapat ang PhilHealth sa kanila. asr-000904 00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:58.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yung mga premium subsidy arrears from 2016 and prior. asr-000905 00:54:58.180 --> 00:55:08.920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: But anyway, gusto ko lamang pong malaman talaga, i-reconcile yung figure kung magkano po talaga ang kakulangan ng DBM asr-000906 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:15.640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: mula sa sin tax share, sa PAGCOR, sa PCSO, at yung kabuoang total po nito. asr-000907 00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:20.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We will submit, Madam Speaker. asr-000908 00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:20.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yes. asr-000909 00:55:20.900 --> 00:55:23.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, it is established at alam naman po natin. asr-000910 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:29.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaya lahat, hindi din po ipinagkakaila na may kakulangan po talaga, ano? asr-000911 00:55:29.560 --> 00:55:33.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ang gusto ko pong itanong na susunod, yung kakulangan na pondo po ito, asr-000912 00:55:33.980 --> 00:55:39.500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kasi may mga halimbawa po in the past, ang collection sa sin tax sabihin nyo po ay, asr-000913 00:55:39.620 --> 00:55:44.380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I'm not sure of the complete figure, but I would just like to establish that asr-000914 00:55:44.380 --> 00:55:49.100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung ibinibigay po ng DBM falls short sa tamang collection. asr-000915 00:55:49.340 --> 00:55:50.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, kaya may arrears tayo. asr-000916 00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ito po bang mga perang itong hindi na ibibigay? asr-000917 00:55:54.040 --> 00:55:55.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nasaan na po ba ito? asr-000918 00:55:55.860 --> 00:55:58.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Nagamit na po ba ito o nasa general fund? asr-000924 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-000925 00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:40.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: At least for the earmarked revenues, yes, these are earmarked for the UHC. asr-000926 00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:50.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, there isn't a mechanism in place where we can actually account for the cash that comes in for the earmarked revenue. asr-000927 00:56:50.500 --> 00:56:51.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, sa batas, asr-000928 00:56:52.520 --> 00:56:53.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: earmarked revenue po talaga siya, asr-000929 00:56:53.860 --> 00:56:56.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but it can be programmed later. asr-000930 00:56:57.180 --> 00:56:59.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay, I'll pursue that asr-000931 00:56:59.520 --> 00:57:01.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: a little bit later, good sponsor, asr-000932 00:57:01.580 --> 00:57:02.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Chair, no? asr-000933 00:57:03.220 --> 00:57:04.420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi ang gusto ko lang asr-000934 00:57:04.420 --> 00:57:05.680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: pong puntuhin diyan, asr-000935 00:57:06.560 --> 00:57:08.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: DBM na rin po nagsabi na asr-000936 00:57:08.560 --> 00:57:10.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: earmarked nga po yan. asr-000937 00:57:10.560 --> 00:57:12.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At yung linaw po ba ng asr-000938 00:57:12.560 --> 00:57:14.400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: desisyon ng Korte Suprema asr-000939 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nung ibinalik, pinababalik asr-000940 00:57:16.560 --> 00:57:18.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yung 60 billion, hindi pa asr-000941 00:57:18.580 --> 00:57:20.640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: rin po ba yun ganun talinaw asr-000942 00:57:20.640 --> 00:57:22.120 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na ang sinasabi asr-000943 00:57:22.120 --> 00:57:24.140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na kung earmarked yan for asr-000944 00:57:24.140 --> 00:57:26.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: this purpose, dapat doon asr-000945 00:57:26.560 --> 00:57:28.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: lamang po siya gamitin. asr-000946 00:57:33.860 --> 00:57:34.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-000947 00:57:34.820 --> 00:57:35.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, under law, asr-000948 00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:38.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if it's earmarked for that particular purpose asr-000949 00:57:38.700 --> 00:57:40.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then it should go asr-000950 00:57:40.100 --> 00:57:42.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to that particular purpose, which is reinforced asr-000951 00:57:42.380 --> 00:57:43.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by the Supreme Court. asr-000952 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:46.500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Going along that line, good sponsor, asr-000953 00:57:47.460 --> 00:57:48.200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kasi nga po, asr-000954 00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:49.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: hindi na ibigay yung asr-000955 00:57:49.900 --> 00:57:52.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: koleksyon halimbawa ng sin tax. asr-000956 00:57:52.540 --> 00:57:54.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kulang. Saan po asr-000957 00:57:54.220 --> 00:57:56.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yun napunta? Kasi dapat earmarked asr-000958 00:57:56.460 --> 00:57:58.440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: yun, sabi rin ng Supreme Court, asr-000959 00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:00.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dapat sa PhilHealth lang yun asr-000960 00:58:00.460 --> 00:58:02.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kasi para sa UHC yun. asr-000961 00:58:02.560 --> 00:58:03.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So asan na po yun? asr-000962 00:58:04.160 --> 00:58:06.720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yun po ang gusto ko po saanang malaman. asr-000963 00:58:07.620 --> 00:58:08.660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Bakit po tayo asr-000964 00:58:08.660 --> 00:58:10.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nagkakaroon ng malaking kakulangan asr-000965 00:58:10.740 --> 00:58:12.240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: o pagkakautang asr-000966 00:58:12.240 --> 00:58:14.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa PhilHealth kung sinusunod asr-000967 00:58:14.180 --> 00:58:16.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: natin ang batas asr-000968 00:58:16.180 --> 00:58:17.920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na dapat napupunta yun asr-000969 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:18.760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa PhilHealth? asr-000970 00:58:21.420 --> 00:58:22.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-000971 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:24.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as per the asr-000972 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DBM, the variance asr-000973 00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:27.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would fall asr-000974 00:58:27.580 --> 00:58:29.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the general fund. asr-000975 00:58:30.040 --> 00:58:32.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So it's still in the general fund asr-000976 00:58:32.500 --> 00:58:34.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as of now, as we asr-000977 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:36.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: speak, it's in the general asr-000978 00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:36.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: fund. asr-000979 00:58:40.060 --> 00:58:41.780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yes, Madam Speaker. Thank you. asr-000980 00:58:42.240 --> 00:58:43.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Sponsor, asr-000981 00:58:44.420 --> 00:58:45.760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, asr-000982 00:58:47.020 --> 00:58:50.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kung wala na pong asr-000983 00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:52.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sapat na subsidy, yung asr-000984 00:58:52.180 --> 00:58:54.500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: binabanggit ko po sa inyo kanina asr-000985 00:58:54.500 --> 00:58:56.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na anim na income streams asr-000986 00:58:56.460 --> 00:58:57.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dapat ng PhilHealth. asr-000987 00:58:58.340 --> 00:58:59.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Supposedly po, asr-000988 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: meron pa doon government subsidy asr-000989 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:04.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: to represent, sana yan, asr-000990 00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:06.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: subsidian ng gobyerno asr-000991 00:59:06.080 --> 00:59:07.920 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: para sa mga indigent asr-000992 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:10.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at saka para doon asr-000993 00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:11.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa mga special laws. asr-000994 00:59:12.240 --> 00:59:14.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Wala din pong naibibigay asr-000995 00:59:14.460 --> 00:59:16.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dyan ang gobyerno. asr-000996 00:59:16.580 --> 00:59:18.440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, kung susumahin po asr-000997 00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:18.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: natin, asr-000998 00:59:20.380 --> 00:59:22.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kulang na po ang naibibigay asr-000999 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:24.200 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: galing sa sin tax na asr-001000 00:59:24.200 --> 00:59:24.980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: earmark, asr-001001 00:59:26.080 --> 00:59:28.260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: specifically, nakalagay asr-001002 00:59:28.260 --> 00:59:29.500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: sa UHC law, asr-001003 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: hindi rin po naibibigay ng asr-001004 00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:34.340 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: buo yung pag-core, asr-001005 00:59:34.860 --> 00:59:35.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang PCSO, asr-001006 00:59:36.120 --> 00:59:37.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: hindi rin po naibibigay, asr-001007 00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: wala din pong subsidia asr-001008 00:59:40.380 --> 00:59:42.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na galing sa gobyerno, asr-001009 00:59:42.220 --> 00:59:44.740 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for indigents and under special laws. asr-001010 00:59:45.580 --> 00:59:45.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, asr-001011 00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:48.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: paano po natin, Madam Sponsor, asr-001012 00:59:49.020 --> 00:59:49.780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, asr-001013 00:59:49.940 --> 00:59:52.420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: mapuprotektahan ang mga direct asr-001014 00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:54.400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: contributors who bear asr-001015 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the burden ng gastusin asr-001016 00:59:56.940 --> 00:59:57.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ng PhilHealth? asr-001017 00:59:58.500 --> 00:59:59.700 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Mga ordinaryong asr-001018 00:59:59.700 --> 01:00:03.300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: manggagawa po ito asr-001019 01:00:03.300 --> 01:00:16.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: na pilit na nagbabayad ng tama at sa takdang panahon. So pagdating ng punto na magkakasakit sila, kulang ang kanilang benepisyong nakukuha. asr-001020 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:32.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So paano po natin ito na justify at paano po natin na ipapaliwanag, maipapaliwanag ng DBM and our economic managers sa tuwing-tuwing nagbibigay po tayo ng pondo para sa universal healthcare. asr-001022 01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:33.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you Madam Speaker. Well, this representation shares the same sentiment as the Honorable Montez. As of now, there is really just a pool of social insurances. asr-001023 01:01:33.100 --> 01:01:43.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So there isn't a differentiation as of now, the way it's treated, the fund, in terms of direct and indirect contributors. asr-001024 01:01:43.160 --> 01:01:46.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So for the purposes of this, asr-001025 01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:58.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the use of, and the programs of the PhilHealth, I think that would be better answered during the plenary deliberations of the Department of Health and the PhilHealth. asr-001026 01:02:00.180 --> 01:02:05.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Yeah, but I understand Madam Sponsor, but this is about financing. asr-001027 01:02:06.140 --> 01:02:13.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So this is about financing, which is the responsibility of the DBM and our economic managers. asr-001028 01:02:13.560 --> 01:02:15.660 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: It's about prioritization. asr-001029 01:02:15.660 --> 01:02:24.060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: It's about our, it's about honoring our commitment to the promise of universal healthcare. asr-001030 01:02:25.200 --> 01:02:37.640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Well, anyway, ang gusto ko lamang pong ipunto na itong usaping ito ay hindi usapin ng fiscal space or absorptive capacity or programming decision lamang. asr-001031 01:02:37.640 --> 01:02:42.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito ay usapin ng pagsunod sa batas at sa pangako ng gobyerno sa UHC. asr-001032 01:02:43.260 --> 01:02:45.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Paano matutupad ang UHC? asr-001033 01:02:45.660 --> 01:02:49.820 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung ang mismong lifeline ng PhilHealth ay napipigil. asr-001034 01:02:50.640 --> 01:02:56.240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: When government appropriations for PhilHealth are withheld and arrears rich billions of pesos, asr-001035 01:02:56.680 --> 01:03:00.440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: the state itself becomes a source of delayed financing. asr-001036 01:03:01.080 --> 01:03:09.760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung inaasa natin na magbabayad ang mga direct contributors, ang mga miyembro, sa tamang oras at tamang halaga, asr-001037 01:03:10.540 --> 01:03:13.040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: government should lead by example. asr-001038 01:03:13.040 --> 01:03:21.440 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dapat manguna ang gobyerno, ang pamahalaan, sa maagap at buong pagpupondo ng universal healthcare. asr-001039 01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:26.040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaugnay po dito, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, asr-001040 01:03:26.040 --> 01:03:43.020 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: On August 4, 2006, the Philippines contracted an ADB-JICA policy loan of almost $938 million or roughly $60 billion for Build Universal Healthcare Subprogram 3. asr-001041 01:03:43.040 --> 01:03:48.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Meron 3 na po ito, so ibig sabihin may 1 and 2. asr-001042 01:03:49.200 --> 01:03:55.940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Tanong ko po sa DBM and siguro sa economic managers natin, bakit kailangan mag-utang? asr-001043 01:03:56.760 --> 01:04:02.040 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ano ang terms? At saan eksaktong ginamit yung mga proceeds? asr-001044 01:04:02.460 --> 01:04:05.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At saan po gagamitin itong sa Subprogram 3? asr-001045 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:12.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the loan? asr-001046 01:04:13.040 --> 01:04:17.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mentioned by the Honorable Montez is a policy loan, so it's for budgetary support. asr-001047 01:04:18.660 --> 01:04:20.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Budgetary support for? asr-001048 01:04:22.560 --> 01:04:26.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Or it finances the general fund. It goes to the general fund. asr-001049 01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:33.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: To the general fund, but it has its use. Since it's a policy loan, alam ko pong may mga terms yun, asr-001050 01:04:33.180 --> 01:04:39.680 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang maaari ko po bang malaman kahit ito na lang sa Subprogram 3, saan po yun gagamitin? asr-001051 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi ang ginamit po, universal healthcare. asr-001052 01:04:43.040 --> 01:04:48.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So meaning, gagamitin po yan sa implementasyon ng universal healthcare. asr-001053 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:12.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Okay. asr-001054 01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:27.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ayon po sa aking pananaliksik, ang sabihin ko na lamang po na yung package 3 daw po focuses on institutionalizing reforms to ensure long-term sustainability and system-wide integration, asr-001055 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:35.900 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: e-health infrastructure, automated claims processing, and resilient health system financing. asr-001056 01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:40.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ito pong mga ito ay dapat napupunta sa PhilHealth. asr-001057 01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:51.100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So ang tanong ko po, doon sa quinenta po natin, nagbigay po ba tayo galing sa loan na ito? asr-001058 01:05:51.100 --> 01:06:00.380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kasi ang mga quinenta po nating nakaraan galing lang sa arrears ng sin tax, wala pa nga pong kasama ang PAGCOR at PCSO. asr-001059 01:06:00.820 --> 01:06:07.240 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ngayon po pala, meron ding policy loan. So saan napunta po yung policy loan? asr-001060 01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:20.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-001061 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:32.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, this particular policy loan goes to the general fund. So it's part of the general fund to fulfill the general fund requirements. asr-001062 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:39.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, based on practice and the commitment of the national government is that this particular policy loan, so the proceeds from there, asr-001063 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:46.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be attributed to programs, activities, and projects of the DOH. asr-001064 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:51.600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you, Madam Sponsor. Kaya lang naguluhan lang po ako. asr-001065 01:06:51.600 --> 01:07:05.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Is it a normal practice that you contract a policy loan for, say, for the universal healthcare, pero hindi din mapupunta kung saan yung dapat mo purpose na inutang yun? asr-001066 01:07:05.220 --> 01:07:08.580 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Is that what you're telling me, Madam Sponsor? asr-001069 01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, so asr-001082 01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:47.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This policy loan is attributed to programs under the UHC, so not particularly just PhilHealth. asr-001083 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:54.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So as for the DBM, these would also include the HFEP and the MYFEP. asr-001084 01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:05.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So also, as for the DBM, we also have different policy loans for education, disaster management, asr-001085 01:08:05.020 --> 01:08:10.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and usually the practice is that, so the loan proceeds goes to the general fund, asr-001086 01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:17.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but there's a commitment on the part of the national government that the proceeds from that loan will go to, asr-001087 01:08:18.200 --> 01:08:23.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for example, if it's education, it would be under the different agencies under the education sector, asr-001088 01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:29.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or disaster management, it would go to specific PAPs. asr-001089 01:08:29.440 --> 01:08:31.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, Madam Speaker. asr-001090 01:08:31.780 --> 01:08:35.260 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you. Good sponsor, Madam Speaker. asr-001091 01:08:35.260 --> 01:08:40.380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: May I just request, perhaps may I just request the DBM to submit to this representative? asr-001092 01:08:40.400 --> 01:08:45.060 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Before the budget deliberations are done and over with, asr-001093 01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:57.500 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: details of the UHC loan for sub-programs 1, 2, 3. asr-001094 01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:04.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: For sub-programs 1 and 2, this representation would like to find out how much was borrowed, asr-001095 01:09:04.160 --> 01:09:10.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for what purpose, under what repayment terms, and which agencies were responsible, asr-001096 01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:11.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: for implementation. asr-001097 01:09:12.120 --> 01:09:15.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: That's for sub-programs 1 and 2. asr-001098 01:09:16.540 --> 01:09:21.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And I would also like to find out, when are these loans due, asr-001099 01:09:21.660 --> 01:09:27.400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and what is the projected fiscal burden on future budgets. asr-001100 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:35.760 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Perhaps it should be with the OF, but if the DBM can already give us the figure, asr-001101 01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:37.960 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: we will highly appreciate that. asr-001102 01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:40.360 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: And more importantly, Madam Speaker, asr-001103 01:09:40.400 --> 01:09:49.080 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: I would like to request the DBM to submit the targets of sub-programs 1 and 2, asr-001104 01:09:49.080 --> 01:09:54.220 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: and an assessment if, indeed, the targets have been achieved. asr-001105 01:09:54.220 --> 01:10:00.880 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, ang nakalagay po kasi doon na pinaggamitan ay gender-sensitive, asr-001106 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:08.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: climate-smart, and disaster-resilient improved coordination among public and private healthcare providers, asr-001107 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:09.720 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: increased number of sub-programs. asr-001108 01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:14.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Number of primary care providers, enhanced health promotion services, asr-001109 01:10:15.160 --> 01:10:21.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: increased health worker supply, and integrated delivery of quality health services. asr-001110 01:10:22.300 --> 01:10:28.380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito po bang mga to na mga targets ay na-achieve, asr-001111 01:10:28.380 --> 01:10:34.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kung hindi man, ilang porsyento na po tayo sa pag-achieve ng targets na yan asr-001112 01:10:34.280 --> 01:10:38.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nung pinasok ng ating gobyerno ang mga loans na ito. asr-001113 01:10:39.420 --> 01:10:39.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam. asr-001114 01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:46.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the DBM will comply, particularly with the line-by-line details of sub-programs 1, 2, asr-001115 01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:48.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and the projections for sub-programs 2. asr-001116 01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:52.480 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Thank you so much, good sponsor, Madam Speaker. asr-001117 01:10:53.040 --> 01:10:55.940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: In the end, gusto ko lang po sigurong sabihin, asr-001118 01:10:55.940 --> 01:11:01.620 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: mahirap po kasing parang tanggapin na habang binabawasan natin asr-001119 01:11:01.620 --> 01:11:04.940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: or hindi natin nabibigyan ng sapat na alokasyon, asr-001120 01:11:05.940 --> 01:11:08.840 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ang pagtupad ng universal healthcare, asr-001121 01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:15.100 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ngutang pa rin po pala tayo na ginagamit ang universal healthcare, asr-001122 01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:20.180 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: samantalang hindi naman natin nararamdaman yung inutang na iyon. asr-001123 01:11:20.620 --> 01:11:26.000 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Dapat po, kung mangungutang tayo kasabay ng pondong binibigay ng gobyerno, asr-001124 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:31.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: dapat po parehong maghatid yan ng mas malawa, mas mabilis, asr-001125 01:11:32.100 --> 01:11:35.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at mas abot kayang serbisyong pangkalusugan. asr-001126 01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:37.300 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi naman po masama. asr-001127 01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:38.800 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Hindi pong masamang. asr-001128 01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:39.600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Mangungutang tayo. asr-001129 01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:45.980 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Mangungutang tayo para mas madali po nating maiabot yung pangako ng universal healthcare. asr-001130 01:11:46.320 --> 01:11:50.280 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Pero sana po sa pag-utang na iyon, katulad din ng ibang utang, asr-001131 01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:55.940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: nagagamit po talaga natin sa tamang paraan at kung saan po talaga natin, asr-001132 01:11:56.580 --> 01:11:59.780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: at kung para saan po talaga yung inutang natin. asr-001133 01:11:59.960 --> 01:12:07.520 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At meron tayong targets at i-evaluate po natin yan kung natutupad yung mga targets na iyon. asr-001134 01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.400 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: At at the end of the period, asr-001135 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:11.380 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: naubos na po natin ng pera, asr-001136 01:12:11.700 --> 01:12:16.160 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: masasabi natin yung inutang natin ay kapakipakinaban. asr-001137 01:12:16.460 --> 01:12:25.860 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: So, let me just state again that the Supreme Court reminded us that where health begins, all freedoms stand. asr-001138 01:12:25.860 --> 01:12:37.140 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung saan daw po nakatayo at nagsisimula ang kalusugan, doon nakatindig ang lahat ng kalayaan. asr-001139 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:39.560 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Sana po isa puso natin. asr-001140 01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:44.640 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Ito, bawat pagbalangkas natin ng budget para sa kalusugan. asr-001141 01:12:45.100 --> 01:12:50.780 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kaya naman po, ang kababaihan, kabalikatan para sa katakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan or 4K, asr-001142 01:12:51.200 --> 01:12:57.600 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: ay maninindigan at patuloy na igigiip na ang universal healthcare ay hindi lamang pangako ng batas, asr-001143 01:12:58.300 --> 01:13:00.540 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: kundi pananagutan ng gobyerno. asr-001144 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:07.320 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Kung kulang ang pondo para sa UHC, kulang din ang hustisya at kalayaan ng bawat Pilipino. asr-001145 01:13:07.320 --> 01:13:08.940 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Maraming salamat po. asr-001146 01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.460 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, good evening po sa lahat. asr-001147 01:13:12.740 --> 01:13:13.420 Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes: Authority Leader. asr-001148 01:13:18.120 --> 01:13:28.280 Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Dada Ismula from Akbayan Party List to interpolate on the proposed budget. asr-001149 01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:32.640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Dada Ismula is now recognized for her interpolation. asr-001150 01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:38.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu. asr-001151 01:13:38.080 --> 01:13:39.160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. asr-001157 01:13:39.600 --> 01:14:00.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I want to focus on how the DBM ensures that syntax revenues are properly earmarked and transparently allocated para masigurong bawat Pilipino ay may libre o abot kaya at dekalidad na health services bilang karapatan natin. asr-001158 01:14:00.120 --> 01:14:10.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: This is in continuation or in connection of what my colleague, Representative Iris Montes, have questioned earlier. asr-001159 01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:27.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, can DBM confirm that under Republic Act No. 11223 or the Universal Health Care Act, health funding is statutory and non-discretionary? asr-001160 01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:29.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, nakasaad. asr-001161 01:14:30.120 --> 01:14:36.760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, nasa batas at hindi basta babawasan, ihinto o ibahin ang paggagamitan. asr-001162 01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:39.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker. asr-001163 01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:54.020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can DBM confirm that Republic Act No. 11346 and 11467 require specific percentages of all syntaxes to go directly to health programs? asr-001164 01:14:54.820 --> 01:14:56.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, we confirm. asr-001165 01:14:56.080 --> 01:14:59.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Under Republic Act 11467. asr-001166 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:12.660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can DBM confirm that 60% of excise taxes from alcohol, heated tobacco, and vapor products must go strictly to universal health care? asr-001167 01:15:13.660 --> 01:15:14.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001168 01:15:14.420 --> 01:15:29.420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can DBM also confirm that under the same law, another 20% from these same taxes is legally reserved for medical assistance for indigent patients and for upgrading public hospitals? asr-001169 01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:31.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001170 01:15:32.400 --> 01:15:39.060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can DBM confirm that these health funds should be automatically appropriated by law? asr-001171 01:15:39.060 --> 01:15:46.060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, hindi pwede bawasan o i-divert ng Pangulo o ng sino man sa Executive? asr-001172 01:15:48.860 --> 01:15:58.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, under RA11, under the Universal Health Care Act, asr-001173 01:15:59.520 --> 01:15:59.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is a... asr-001174 01:15:59.980 --> 01:16:02.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's supposed to be earmarked. asr-001175 01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There is no... asr-001176 01:16:04.160 --> 01:16:05.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's not automatic. asr-001177 01:16:06.820 --> 01:16:10.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: But it is stated and appropriated by the law. asr-001178 01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:15.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, hindi po siya pwedeng i-divert ng Pangulo o ng sino man Executive? asr-001179 01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:18.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001180 01:16:19.020 --> 01:16:21.900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. asr-001181 01:16:22.440 --> 01:16:29.920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Based on the DBM's budget document, or the Budget of Expenditures and Sources of Financing, or BESF, asr-001182 01:16:29.980 --> 01:16:46.960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Table C.3, can DBM confirm that for 2026 projected tax collection from sweetened drinks reaches, or umaabot hanggang, P142.8 billion? asr-001183 01:16:48.580 --> 01:16:50.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Again, projected po. asr-001193 01:17:29.020 --> 01:17:37.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, as for the BSF, that figure is correct, Madam Speaker. asr-001194 01:17:37.160 --> 01:17:45.500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. How about from alcohol? Tama po ba 153.6 billion pesos? asr-001195 01:17:45.500 --> 01:18:07.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For alcohol products, for Selective Exercise Tax on Goods, for 2027, the projection actually is 136.713 billion. asr-001196 01:18:08.500 --> 01:18:12.740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: This is under BESF po of Table C.3. asr-001197 01:18:13.860 --> 01:18:14.660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. asr-001198 01:18:14.940 --> 01:18:15.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-001199 01:18:15.120 --> 01:18:19.360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And from tobacco po, 234.7 billion. asr-001200 01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:31.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, at least as for the BESF Table C.3, for 2027, for tobacco, the projection would be 182. asr-001201 01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:36.920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I'm sorry, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, it's for projected for 2026 po. asr-001202 01:18:37.360 --> 01:18:38.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ah, for 2026. asr-001203 01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:38.960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po. asr-001204 01:18:39.060 --> 01:18:40.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2026, my apologies. asr-001205 01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:44.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2026, what's programmed? asr-001206 01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:48.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Programmed would be 164.386 billion. asr-001207 01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:58.760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: In total, can DBM confirm that the government expect over 500 billion pesos in SYNTAXES for 2026? asr-001208 01:19:04.440 --> 01:19:12.920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, higit kalahating trilyong piso ang collection natin sa SYNTAXES. asr-001209 01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:14.540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, can DBM confirm? asr-001210 01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:14.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes po. asr-001211 01:19:21.440 --> 01:19:30.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, these are programmed though, Madam Speaker, though the actual projections would be better answered by the DOF. asr-001212 01:19:31.140 --> 01:19:41.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, what's programmed for tobacco would be 164 billion and then SSB would be 37.67. asr-001213 01:19:41.900 --> 01:19:42.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 67. asr-001214 01:19:43.440 --> 01:19:43.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 67. asr-001215 01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:47.020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: To 34.7 billion. asr-001216 01:19:47.400 --> 01:19:47.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-001217 01:19:48.140 --> 01:20:02.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that would not be under, yes, yeah, 64 plus 37 would be 201 billion. asr-001218 01:20:03.780 --> 01:20:05.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 64 plus 37. asr-001219 01:20:05.480 --> 01:20:14.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, para po mas madali sa ating kasamang sponsor, asr-001220 01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:27.740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pakitulungan na lang po DBM, i-total ninyo po 142.8 billion, 153.6 billion, at yung 234.7 billion, asr-001221 01:20:27.900 --> 01:20:32.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nakapost po ito sa inyong page, sa inyong website. asr-001222 01:20:33.100 --> 01:20:35.280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, matotal na sa magkano po ang total? asr-001231 01:20:42.800 --> 01:21:01.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, Madam Speaker, [unclear], at least for 2026, the program would be for SSB 37, and then the tobacco products would be 164. And then, sorry, what was the first item? asr-001251 01:21:01.900 --> 01:21:17.300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ulitin ko po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. Yung projected tax collection niyo po from sweetened drinks, nagre-reach po siya ng 142.8 billion for 2026. Tama po ba? asr-001263 01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:28.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the BSF Table C-3, Madam Speaker, it's only at P37.67 billion. asr-001264 01:21:28.200 --> 01:21:29.960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ito'y for 2026. asr-001265 01:21:30.200 --> 01:21:32.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2026 program, Madam Speaker. asr-001266 01:21:33.360 --> 01:21:35.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Program, Madam Speaker. asr-001267 01:21:37.100 --> 01:21:41.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Walang for projected po kasi projected po yung tinitignan natin. asr-001268 01:21:41.480 --> 01:21:49.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For Table C-3, the projections for 2027. asr-001269 01:21:51.160 --> 01:21:54.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But the projections for 2026 are those that are programmed. asr-001270 01:21:56.040 --> 01:21:58.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, at least for Table C-3 of the BSF. asr-001271 01:22:00.320 --> 01:22:06.160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano naman po ang sa Table C-3 pag ito'y programmed for 2027? asr-001272 01:22:07.620 --> 01:22:11.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For SSB, this is under C-3. asr-001273 01:22:11.480 --> 01:22:16.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: C-3 of the BSF, it's P39.669 billion. asr-001274 01:22:17.080 --> 01:22:28.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And then for tobacco, it would be, for 2027, it's P182.209 billion. asr-001275 01:22:31.200 --> 01:22:33.220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ang for alcohol naman po? asr-001276 01:22:33.580 --> 01:22:39.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For alcohol, it would be P136.713 billion. asr-001277 01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:40.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2027 projections. asr-001278 01:22:41.480 --> 01:22:43.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sumatutal na sa magkano po siya? asr-001279 01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:46.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: P357 billion. asr-001280 01:22:47.020 --> 01:22:47.580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: P200? asr-001281 01:22:48.580 --> 01:22:51.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sorry, P357 billion, Madam Speaker. asr-001282 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:52.460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: P300. asr-001283 01:22:53.120 --> 01:22:55.580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay, P357 billion. asr-001284 01:22:55.780 --> 01:23:03.960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po ba, base sa requirement ng syntax laws at revenues for 2026 mismo ng DBM, asr-001285 01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:11.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: can DBM confirm that for 2027, the earmark amount for UHC, asr-001286 01:23:11.480 --> 01:23:16.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: should be around 300 plus billion pesos? asr-001287 01:23:16.120 --> 01:23:29.640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Or at least 60% of the 357 billion? asr-001303 01:23:44.400 --> 01:23:54.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The basis for this, Madam Speaker, the value I'm going to share would be, based asr-001304 01:23:54.000 --> 01:24:05.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: on 2025 collections, it would be P310,637,447,000. asr-001305 01:24:05.460 --> 01:24:10.780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So ibig sabihin po, ang naging basis po natin is iyong 2025, asr-001306 01:24:10.780 --> 01:24:10.840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. asr-001307 01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:13.220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na collections po. asr-001308 01:24:13.380 --> 01:24:13.900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? asr-001309 01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:15.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For this figure, yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001310 01:24:15.900 --> 01:24:19.340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngayon naman po, can DBM confirm that in the NEP, asr-001311 01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:23.260 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: the allocation for the National Health Insurance Program asr-001312 01:24:23.260 --> 01:24:26.100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: is only P74 billion? asr-001313 01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:27.460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? asr-001314 01:24:28.060 --> 01:24:29.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001315 01:24:29.780 --> 01:24:32.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano ang basis ng P74 billion? asr-001316 01:24:32.940 --> 01:24:36.980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano po ang P74 billion from the tax revenue asr-001317 01:24:36.980 --> 01:24:38.940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: from sweetened beverages? asr-001318 01:24:38.940 --> 01:24:42.120 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano naman ang sa alcohol products asr-001319 01:24:42.120 --> 01:24:45.280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at magkano naman ang sa tobacco products? asr-001320 01:25:12.500 --> 01:25:38.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for earmarked revenues for 2027, with regards to the collections from the same taxes, asr-001322 01:25:38.940 --> 01:25:42.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For tobacco, PhilHealth is supposed to get asr-001323 01:25:42.120 --> 01:25:46.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: P59.495 billion. asr-001324 01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:50.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For sugar-sweetened beverages, asr-001325 01:25:51.240 --> 01:25:58.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it would be P15.731 billion for 2027. asr-001326 01:26:00.380 --> 01:26:02.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Those are just for PhilHealth. asr-001327 01:26:02.500 --> 01:26:05.980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: How about po yung sa alcohol products naman po? asr-001328 01:26:06.140 --> 01:26:06.580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magkano? asr-001329 01:26:06.580 --> 01:26:08.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For alcohol, asr-001330 01:26:08.940 --> 01:26:09.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-001331 01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:12.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is no allocation for PhilHealth. asr-001332 01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:15.600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So matotal na sa magkano po yun? asr-001333 01:26:18.320 --> 01:26:20.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For universal healthcare, asr-001334 01:26:20.620 --> 01:26:27.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be P75.856 billion for 2027, asr-001335 01:26:27.140 --> 01:26:27.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the earmarked revenue. asr-001336 01:26:28.140 --> 01:26:30.940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, ito yung naging basehan asr-001337 01:26:30.940 --> 01:26:33.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kaya nagkaroon ng P74 billion. asr-001338 01:26:33.240 --> 01:26:33.800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? asr-001346 01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:50.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the total for the SYNTAX, for PhilHealth. asr-001347 01:26:50.820 --> 01:26:55.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That would be the base for the P74 billion. asr-001348 01:26:55.580 --> 01:26:56.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. asr-001349 01:26:56.820 --> 01:26:59.780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat Madam Speaker, Madam sponsor. asr-001350 01:26:59.780 --> 01:27:01.860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Given these figures, asr-001351 01:27:01.860 --> 01:27:05.700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: can the BM confirm that there is indeed the shortfall asr-001352 01:27:05.700 --> 01:27:08.780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: between the mandated earmarking and the actual asr-001353 01:27:08.780 --> 01:27:10.300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: allocations in the NEP. asr-001354 01:27:11.460 --> 01:27:12.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001355 01:27:13.420 --> 01:27:14.600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po, asr-001356 01:27:15.120 --> 01:27:16.740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: hindi po tayo nagiging asr-001357 01:27:16.740 --> 01:27:18.740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: compliant sa ating batas asr-001358 01:27:18.740 --> 01:27:20.260 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na syntax. Tama po ba? asr-001359 01:27:37.300 --> 01:27:37.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-001360 01:27:37.900 --> 01:27:39.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-001361 01:27:40.320 --> 01:27:42.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is the perennial challenge. asr-001362 01:27:42.480 --> 01:27:43.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Unfortunately, asr-001363 01:27:43.780 --> 01:27:45.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Distinguished Colleague, Honorable Ismula, asr-001364 01:27:46.260 --> 01:27:48.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there is asr-001365 01:27:48.040 --> 01:27:49.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a chicken-egg asr-001366 01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:50.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: problem. asr-001367 01:27:52.180 --> 01:27:53.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given that asr-001368 01:27:53.500 --> 01:27:56.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there has to be a certification asr-001369 01:27:56.200 --> 01:27:58.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the earmarked asr-001370 01:27:58.300 --> 01:28:00.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: revenues before it can asr-001371 01:28:00.020 --> 01:28:01.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: be allocated. So, asr-001372 01:28:02.420 --> 01:28:03.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: usually po nangyayari, hindi na asr-001373 01:28:03.980 --> 01:28:05.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: hahabol yung certification asr-001374 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:07.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in time for the budgeting. asr-001375 01:28:07.900 --> 01:28:09.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The planning of the asr-001376 01:28:09.540 --> 01:28:12.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: program. Kaya, nagkakaroon po asr-001377 01:28:12.100 --> 01:28:13.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ng perennial issue na asr-001378 01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:15.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung dapat earmarked revenue asr-001379 01:28:15.820 --> 01:28:18.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for particular programs, asr-001380 01:28:18.340 --> 01:28:19.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: hindi lang po siya sa UHC. Actually, asr-001381 01:28:21.080 --> 01:28:22.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: lahat po halos asr-001382 01:28:22.060 --> 01:28:23.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ng ganito po yung problema. asr-001383 01:28:24.500 --> 01:28:25.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But, rest assured, the DBM asr-001384 01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:28.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is trying its best in terms of asr-001385 01:28:28.080 --> 01:28:30.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: expediting the certifications asr-001386 01:28:30.180 --> 01:28:31.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and making sure that asr-001387 01:28:31.860 --> 01:28:33.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kung ano man ang asr-001388 01:28:33.440 --> 01:28:35.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: mga programa na kung saan asr-001389 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:37.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: dapat nakalaanan ng asr-001390 01:28:37.360 --> 01:28:38.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ng pondo. asr-001391 01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:39.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-001392 01:28:41.400 --> 01:28:43.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Laanan talaga nung pondo na yun. asr-001393 01:28:44.160 --> 01:28:46.040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, asr-001394 01:28:46.120 --> 01:28:48.020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: maraming salamat po. Naintindihan ko po asr-001395 01:28:48.020 --> 01:28:49.820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ito. Pero, gusto ko po asr-001396 01:28:49.820 --> 01:28:51.560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: malaman, sino po yung asr-001397 01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:53.220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nagkulang doon sa certification? asr-001398 01:29:16.970 --> 01:29:17.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-001399 01:29:18.160 --> 01:29:19.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: On the part of the asr-001400 01:29:19.460 --> 01:29:19.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DBM, asr-001401 01:29:20.480 --> 01:29:23.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given that the DBM asr-001402 01:29:23.260 --> 01:29:24.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: only relies on the certification, asr-001403 01:29:25.280 --> 01:29:26.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the actual issuance of the certification asr-001404 01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:29.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to that process, asr-001405 01:29:29.940 --> 01:29:32.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DOF would be asr-001406 01:29:32.040 --> 01:29:32.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: better, asr-001407 01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:34.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the better position to asr-001408 01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:37.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: speak to that. asr-001409 01:29:37.360 --> 01:29:39.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, the DBM has assured that asr-001410 01:29:39.180 --> 01:29:41.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it is in constant asr-001411 01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:43.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: dialogue with the DOF asr-001412 01:29:43.440 --> 01:29:45.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to expedite the issuance asr-001413 01:29:45.480 --> 01:29:47.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of these certifications para po hindi na nangyayari asr-001414 01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:48.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ito kada taon. asr-001415 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:50.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. asr-001416 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. asr-001417 01:29:53.660 --> 01:29:55.740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Actually, as I understand, asr-001418 01:29:55.940 --> 01:29:57.640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: hindi lamang para sa taong ito asr-001419 01:29:57.640 --> 01:29:59.620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nangyayari yung ganitong shortfall. asr-001420 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:25.620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Actually last year ganoon din po. So sana maayos po natin ito kung ano man yung certification na yan nakulang, ano man po yung, or kung sino man yung nagkulang dyan sa certification, sana po mahabol natin dahil pinag-uusapan po natin ang health line ng ating bansa, ang health line ng ating mga kababayan. asr-001421 01:30:25.620 --> 01:30:40.580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi po dapat magiging sagot natin sa health line kung sakali man umabot na yung health line ng isang kababayan natin, ay isasagot natin, pasensya na dahil nagkulang tayo sa certification. asr-001422 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:54.940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: With that, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, it's become very obvious that the DBM has not complied with the UHC law and syntax laws in the 2027 budget. asr-001423 01:30:54.940 --> 01:31:07.300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Will DBM commit to submitting a complete accounting to this committee showing all syntax collections versus actual health allocations from 2020 to present? asr-001424 01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:11.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the department will comply. asr-001425 01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:23.220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. At para sa huling katanungan ko po, Madam Sponsor, when Congress corrects this budget and restores the missing billions back to healthcare, asr-001426 01:31:23.220 --> 01:31:24.920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: will DBM commit? asr-001427 01:31:24.940 --> 01:31:29.020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Will DBM commit to releasing and executing those funds without delay? asr-001428 01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:44.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As authorized by the GAA, the DBM will comply, Madam Speaker. asr-001429 01:31:45.820 --> 01:31:53.580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, linggo-linggo nakikita natin sa social media ang mga hinain ng mga kababayan natin. asr-001430 01:31:53.580 --> 01:31:58.780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nadudurog po ang puso ko makita kapag nako-confine ang ating mga kababayan, asr-001431 01:31:59.400 --> 01:32:03.820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: konting-konti lang ang nako-cover ng PhilHealth sa kanilang final bill. asr-001432 01:32:04.300 --> 01:32:13.900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang nangyayari, kukuha sila sa kanilang savings, uutang sila, or iikot sila sa mga ahensya para magmakaawa para sa tulong. asr-001433 01:32:13.900 --> 01:32:22.020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang katotohanan pala, may pondo naman palang pwede ilaan para lakihan ang coverage ng PhilHealth kada pasyente, asr-001434 01:32:22.020 --> 01:32:25.500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nang hindi kailangan lakihan ang contribution ng members. asr-001435 01:32:26.120 --> 01:32:31.840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi na kailangang magtiis, mangutang, or manlimos ng mga kababayan natin. asr-001436 01:32:32.260 --> 01:32:37.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: The government just has to follow the law and fully fund the universal healthcare. asr-001437 01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:48.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya po, I express my strong commitment to address this issue at umaasa ako na kasama ang aking mga colleagues in the 20th Congress. asr-001438 01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:51.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mapapalakas natin ang legislation at oversight. asr-001439 01:32:52.020 --> 01:33:03.520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Para masiguro na ang syntax revenues ay maayos at tapat na nilalaan para wala ng Pilipinong magihirap pa para lang gumaling sa sakit. asr-001440 01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:15.740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, may isisingit na lamang po akong katanungan mula sa aking colleague na si Senior Deputy Minority Laila Delima. asr-001441 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:20.640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Apat lang po isisingit ko dahil may time pa naman ako. asr-001442 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:35.040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yung higher than program disbursements po ba mula fiscal year of 2022 hanggang fiscal year of 2025 ay dahil sa releases galing sa unprogrammed appropriations. asr-001443 01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:43.820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po nito ay mas mataas ang aktual na paggasta kumpara sa orihinal na nakaprogram sa budget. asr-001444 01:33:44.140 --> 01:33:44.720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? asr-001445 01:33:50.640 --> 01:34:02.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, this is one factor. Madam Speaker, another factor would be continuing appropriation. asr-001446 01:34:03.240 --> 01:34:04.220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. asr-001447 01:34:04.220 --> 01:34:21.300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa 2025 Fiscal Risk Statement ng DBCC, flagged ang UA bilang major risk, dagdag na P118B o 0.66 percentage points sa deficit-to-GDP ratio. asr-001450 01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:29.640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pareho na rin ang lumalabas sa independent computation na ginawa ng opisina ni Representative Delima. asr-001451 01:34:30.400 --> 01:34:41.760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Matagal na pong sinasabi na deficit neutral ang UA, pero mismong risk statement ng DBCC nagsasabing deficit inducing ito. asr-001452 01:34:42.220 --> 01:34:45.760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano ang paliwanag sa contradictions na ito? asr-001454 01:35:00.400 --> 01:35:05.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, this is driven mostly by loan proceeds disbursement. asr-001455 01:35:06.400 --> 01:35:10.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the DBM, ito po daw yung nalilipat from program to unprogram. asr-001456 01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:12.500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po. asr-001457 01:35:12.500 --> 01:35:20.140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung mag-materialize ang 0.66% points, ano ang epekto nito sa debt? asr-001458 01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:24.100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: GDP path para sa 2027 to 2028. asr-001464 01:36:16.300 --> 01:36:18.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the estimates of the DBM, Madam Speaker, asr-001469 01:36:18.900 --> 01:36:30.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For every 30 billion in excess disbursement, it would add 0.1 percentage point in the debt-to-GDP ratio. asr-001470 01:36:31.580 --> 01:36:33.660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Medyo malaki po 'yun kung suma total. asr-001471 01:36:34.300 --> 01:36:41.080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, since the DBCC itself flagged the UA as major financial risk, asr-001472 01:36:41.080 --> 01:36:55.380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: how much in total was released from it from fiscal year of 2022 to fiscal year of 2025 annual figures broken by expense class and implementing agency? asr-001473 01:36:55.380 --> 01:37:11.060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung sakali po hindi po available right now, this representation and Representative Laila Delima would be very much willing to receive that copy after this budget. asr-001474 01:37:11.080 --> 01:37:15.000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Or probably tomorrow po kung ma-provide nila. asr-001475 01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:15.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-001476 01:37:17.380 --> 01:37:29.700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And in connection to that, idadagdag po na rin po ito, how much in total was released from the unprogrammed appropriations from fiscal year of 2022 to 2025? asr-001477 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:39.460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: And can the DBM provide the annual figures and the detailed list of programs, activities, and projects funded by the UA? asr-001478 01:37:40.340 --> 01:37:40.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-001479 01:37:41.080 --> 01:37:48.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the DBM will comply with regards to this data from 2022 to 2025. asr-001480 01:37:49.580 --> 01:37:51.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's quite an extensive list. asr-001481 01:37:52.560 --> 01:38:00.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But the DBM also mentioned that there were documents submitted to the Committee on Appropriations. asr-001482 01:38:01.140 --> 01:38:02.220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. asr-001483 01:38:02.420 --> 01:38:06.940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can Representative Delima in this representation receive the copy as well? asr-001484 01:38:08.180 --> 01:38:09.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001485 01:38:09.220 --> 01:38:10.240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. asr-001486 01:38:10.240 --> 01:38:28.480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, para po sa huling katanungan, can the DBM commit to submit a report through this Committee showing total UA releases against the deficit increases versus original and adjusted programs since fiscal year of 2022? asr-001487 01:38:33.780 --> 01:38:36.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the Department will comply, Madam Speaker. asr-001488 01:38:36.740 --> 01:38:37.620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. asr-001489 01:38:37.620 --> 01:38:39.620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: If the DBM can commit, I ask that... asr-001490 01:38:40.240 --> 01:38:45.540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: This representation and the Office of Representative Delima be provided with a copy. asr-001491 01:38:46.060 --> 01:38:47.600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. asr-001492 01:38:47.860 --> 01:38:49.900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Sponsor. asr-001493 01:38:50.120 --> 01:38:51.340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Thank you, DBM family. asr-001494 01:38:52.240 --> 01:38:52.960 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. asr-001495 01:38:55.040 --> 01:39:02.360 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we recognize the Honorable Edgar Erize of the 2nd District of Caloocan for his interpellation. asr-001496 01:39:03.160 --> 01:39:08.660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Edgar Erize from the 2nd District of Caloocan City is now recognized for his interpellation. asr-001497 01:39:09.160 --> 01:39:10.040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you. asr-001498 01:39:10.240 --> 01:39:13.800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Madam Speaker, thank you, Madam Chair. asr-001499 01:39:15.460 --> 01:39:21.440 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I'll be going directly to the questions para po mapadali na ang ating pagtulog. asr-001500 01:39:24.940 --> 01:39:37.420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Madam Speaker, napakalaki po ng ating mga inuutang at gusto ko pong tanungin sa DEP-DEB kung yung mga ginagastos nating inuutang asr-001501 01:39:38.360 --> 01:39:40.120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay lumilikha ba ng pangmatagalang asr-001502 01:39:40.240 --> 01:39:41.380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pag-unlad? asr-001503 01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:49.880 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: O pinapondohan lang natin ang tulong o ayuda na kailangan na naman natin ulitin sa susunod na taon. asr-001504 01:40:01.060 --> 01:40:07.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, Madam Speaker, Honorable Erize, on the part of DEP-DEB, it's only... asr-001505 01:40:07.240 --> 01:40:08.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's only... asr-001506 01:40:08.240 --> 01:40:15.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It formulates policies, it gives recommendations, and it's... asr-001507 01:40:15.700 --> 01:40:20.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Like the DEP-DEB is in charge of the updating and the crafting of the Philippine Development Plan. asr-001508 01:40:22.060 --> 01:40:30.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to that, that's the only purview in which the DEP-DEB can manage these types of investments, asr-001509 01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:36.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but it doesn't really have power over the loans contracted. asr-001510 01:40:37.580 --> 01:40:38.220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi po ba? asr-001511 01:40:38.240 --> 01:40:47.800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Dapat yung pag-gastos natin ng national budget ay aligned with the Philippine Development Plan. asr-001512 01:40:50.480 --> 01:40:55.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, in terms of financing strategic investments, it will be... asr-001513 01:40:57.240 --> 01:41:06.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, the financing, the actual financing of the strategic investments in human capital development in all of the sectors asr-001514 01:41:06.080 --> 01:41:08.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be part of the Philippine Development Plan. asr-001515 01:41:08.100 --> 01:41:16.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to the revenue program for those investments, that would not fall under the DEP-DEB's purview. asr-001516 01:41:17.060 --> 01:41:29.240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Wala po ba silang pag-aaral kung yung pong ginagastos ng pamahalaan, yung investment sa mga developmental projects asr-001517 01:41:29.240 --> 01:41:37.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at yung investment sa mga ayuda, kung ano ang epekto nito sa pagpapaunlad ng bansa, wala silang pag-aaral? asr-001521 01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:27.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, on the part of DepDev, particularly the asr-001522 01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:29.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: PIDS, there are asr-001523 01:42:29.780 --> 01:42:31.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: studies with regards to asr-001524 01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:33.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the effects of asr-001525 01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:36.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like our social programs asr-001526 01:42:36.100 --> 01:42:37.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for poverty asr-001527 01:42:37.720 --> 01:42:39.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: alleviation and national asr-001528 01:42:39.640 --> 01:42:41.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: development as a whole. But asr-001529 01:42:41.540 --> 01:42:43.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in terms of fiscal asr-001530 01:42:43.460 --> 01:42:45.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: sustainability and whatnot, asr-001531 01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:47.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we are just checking asr-001532 01:42:47.280 --> 01:42:48.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which particular asr-001533 01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:51.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: studies that we have on file asr-001534 01:42:51.300 --> 01:42:52.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as of now. Madam Speaker. asr-001535 01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:55.380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ang growth strategy asr-001536 01:42:55.380 --> 01:42:56.420 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa likod ng proposed asr-001537 01:42:56.420 --> 01:42:58.580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2027 National Budget? asr-001538 01:42:59.020 --> 01:43:00.980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Para sa malalaking bagong gasusin, may asr-001539 01:43:00.980 --> 01:43:03.200 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: projection ba ang DepDev kung ilang trabaho asr-001540 01:43:03.200 --> 01:43:05.260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang malilika at gano'n tataas asr-001541 01:43:05.260 --> 01:43:05.900 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang productivity? asr-001542 01:43:06.100 --> 01:43:08.080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At output sa loob ng isa, tatlo, at limang asr-001543 01:43:08.080 --> 01:43:09.480 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: taon? Kung wala pa, asr-001544 01:43:10.240 --> 01:43:11.980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung wala, paano natin masasabing asr-001545 01:43:11.980 --> 01:43:14.120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: developmental ang spending asr-001546 01:43:14.120 --> 01:43:16.220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng 2027 National Budget? asr-001547 01:43:32.040 --> 01:43:34.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: At least on the part of asr-001548 01:43:34.160 --> 01:43:36.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepDev, Madam Speaker, asr-001549 01:43:36.100 --> 01:43:37.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given the asr-001550 01:43:37.860 --> 01:43:40.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: external shocks that we've asr-001551 01:43:40.260 --> 01:43:41.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: experienced which have asr-001552 01:43:41.500 --> 01:43:44.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: impacted particular sectors, asr-001553 01:43:45.100 --> 01:43:47.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in terms of informing asr-001554 01:43:47.620 --> 01:43:50.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the crafting asr-001555 01:43:50.520 --> 01:43:51.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the budget, asr-001556 01:43:51.940 --> 01:43:53.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there are asr-001557 01:43:53.040 --> 01:43:56.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: short-term and short-to-medium-term asr-001558 01:43:56.240 --> 01:43:57.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: measures that the DepDev has asr-001559 01:43:57.900 --> 01:44:00.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ascertained, asr-001560 01:44:00.160 --> 01:44:02.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particularly to asr-001561 01:44:02.220 --> 01:44:04.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: target support to vulnerable sectors. asr-001562 01:44:04.280 --> 01:44:06.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So this is, asr-001563 01:44:06.100 --> 01:44:08.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if I can just enumerate, asr-001564 01:44:08.100 --> 01:44:10.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would that be okay to the asr-001565 01:44:10.100 --> 01:44:12.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable Erice? asr-001566 01:44:12.100 --> 01:44:17.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ba ang epekto, hindi lang naman po siguro asr-001567 01:44:17.100 --> 01:44:19.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung external factors? asr-001568 01:44:19.100 --> 01:44:22.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi po ba pinag-aralan yung tungkol po sa asr-001569 01:44:22.100 --> 01:44:24.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: delayed public investment, asr-001570 01:44:24.100 --> 01:44:26.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: paghina ng private investment, at asr-001571 01:44:26.100 --> 01:44:30.100 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: epekto ng mga questionable infrastructure projects? asr-001575 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:39.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: We cannot always blame asr-001576 01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:41.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: the external factors, samantalang asr-001577 01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:43.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung mga kalapit asr-001578 01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:45.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bansa natin ay naka-recover na. asr-001579 01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:47.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tayo na lang hindi. asr-001580 01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:49.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At pababa pa ng pababa asr-001581 01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:51.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung GDP natin. asr-001582 01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:53.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, thank you. Yes, asr-001583 01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of course, Madam Speaker, asr-001584 01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:57.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: distinguished colleague. asr-001585 01:44:57.000 --> 01:44:59.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For at least asr-001586 01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:00.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: one of the asr-001587 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:02.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the considerations at the depth of use asr-001588 01:45:02.260 --> 01:45:04.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to informing the budget asr-001589 01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:06.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: graphing asr-001590 01:45:06.200 --> 01:45:08.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be the fiscal multipliers. asr-001591 01:45:09.560 --> 01:45:09.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, asr-001592 01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:12.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there are asr-001593 01:45:12.400 --> 01:45:13.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: different areas here asr-001594 01:45:13.440 --> 01:45:16.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if I am allowed to enumerate. asr-001595 01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:17.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, public administration, asr-001596 01:45:19.820 --> 01:45:20.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so the asr-001597 01:45:20.280 --> 01:45:22.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: gross value add, asr-001598 01:45:22.340 --> 01:45:23.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the JVA multiplier, asr-001599 01:45:23.440 --> 01:45:25.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is estimated at 2.03. asr-001600 01:45:26.740 --> 01:45:27.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Agriculture asr-001601 01:45:27.340 --> 01:45:29.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be asr-001602 01:45:29.100 --> 01:45:33.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 1.24. asr-001603 01:45:35.400 --> 01:45:36.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Public education, asr-001604 01:45:37.220 --> 01:45:39.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the JVA multiplier would be at 2.33. asr-001605 01:45:41.460 --> 01:45:43.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Public health would be asr-001606 01:45:43.120 --> 01:45:44.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 1.32. asr-001607 01:45:46.820 --> 01:45:47.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, so asr-001608 01:45:47.500 --> 01:45:48.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: these are different asr-001609 01:45:48.480 --> 01:45:50.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: areas, asr-001610 01:45:51.200 --> 01:45:52.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: different industries. asr-001611 01:45:52.820 --> 01:45:54.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, there is also asr-001612 01:45:54.540 --> 01:45:56.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I guess a side-by-side asr-001613 01:45:56.920 --> 01:45:58.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: share on the NEP. asr-001614 01:45:58.280 --> 01:46:00.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, if you can furnish this copy asr-001615 01:46:00.220 --> 01:46:01.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to the Honorable Erice, asr-001616 01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:03.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so we can look at it. asr-001617 01:46:03.780 --> 01:46:06.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a long list, and I don't want to asr-001618 01:46:06.060 --> 01:46:08.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: take up the time. asr-001619 01:46:08.500 --> 01:46:10.820 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ang input, Madam Chair? asr-001620 01:46:12.520 --> 01:46:13.220 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Madam Speaker, asr-001621 01:46:14.540 --> 01:46:16.020 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng DEP-DEB asr-001622 01:46:16.020 --> 01:46:18.400 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dun sa paghahanay asr-001623 01:46:18.400 --> 01:46:20.620 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga paggastot. asr-001624 01:46:20.620 --> 01:46:21.240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: For example, asr-001625 01:46:22.040 --> 01:46:24.080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in capital outlay, asr-001626 01:46:26.040 --> 01:46:27.040 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: malaki po yung asr-001627 01:46:27.040 --> 01:46:27.620 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga lump sum appropriations, asr-001628 01:46:28.280 --> 01:46:29.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ayuda, asr-001629 01:46:30.180 --> 01:46:30.980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: LGSF, asr-001630 01:46:31.220 --> 01:46:32.660 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pero binawasan yung asr-001631 01:46:32.660 --> 01:46:35.860 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa human capital asr-001632 01:46:35.860 --> 01:46:36.800 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: like education asr-001633 01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:39.120 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and health asr-001634 01:46:39.120 --> 01:46:40.240 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and agriculture. asr-001635 01:46:41.220 --> 01:46:43.000 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May participation po ba asr-001636 01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:43.980 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang DEP-DEB? asr-001637 01:46:44.820 --> 01:46:44.840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: o asr-001638 01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:48.140 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hindi ba dapat asr-001639 01:46:48.140 --> 01:46:50.080 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang DEP-DEB yung pinaka asr-001640 01:46:50.080 --> 01:46:52.840 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nagbibigay asr-001641 01:46:52.840 --> 01:46:53.580 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng payo asr-001642 01:46:53.580 --> 01:46:55.380 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa asr-001643 01:46:55.380 --> 01:46:58.260 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: DBCC? asr-001644 01:46:58.280 --> 01:47:00.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kung ano yung mga tamang asr-001645 01:47:00.280 --> 01:47:02.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dapat pagkagastusan asr-001646 01:47:02.280 --> 01:47:06.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng pamala na tama para sa asr-001647 01:47:06.280 --> 01:47:08.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mas permanenteng pagunlad asr-001648 01:47:08.280 --> 01:47:10.280 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng ating bansa? asr-001649 01:47:10.280 --> 01:47:12.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001650 01:47:12.280 --> 01:47:14.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DEP-DEB is part of asr-001651 01:47:14.280 --> 01:47:16.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Economic Development Council asr-001652 01:47:16.280 --> 01:47:18.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that advises asr-001653 01:47:18.280 --> 01:47:20.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: policies on economic development. asr-001654 01:47:20.280 --> 01:47:22.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, these are periodic asr-001655 01:47:22.280 --> 01:47:24.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: meetings asr-001656 01:47:24.280 --> 01:47:26.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that report to the Office of the President. asr-001658 01:47:27.180 --> 01:47:29.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Besides that, asr-001659 01:47:29.180 --> 01:47:31.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DEP-DEB is also part of the asr-001660 01:47:31.180 --> 01:47:33.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DBCC. asr-001661 01:47:33.180 --> 01:47:35.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, I think it's constant. asr-001662 01:47:35.180 --> 01:47:37.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano pong input ng DEP-DEB? Tama ba yung asr-001663 01:47:37.180 --> 01:47:39.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ginawa ng asr-001664 01:47:39.180 --> 01:47:41.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: DBCC na bawasan yung asr-001665 01:47:41.180 --> 01:47:43.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for human capital like education, asr-001666 01:47:43.180 --> 01:47:45.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: health, and agriculture, tapos asr-001667 01:47:45.180 --> 01:47:47.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: dagdagan, malakihin asr-001668 01:47:47.180 --> 01:47:49.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung sa ayuda asr-001669 01:47:49.180 --> 01:47:51.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa mga lump sum appropriations asr-001670 01:47:51.180 --> 01:47:53.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: for discretionary asr-001671 01:47:53.180 --> 01:47:55.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: funds? asr-001672 01:47:55.180 --> 01:47:57.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Tama po ba yun? Ito ba yung may asr-001673 01:47:57.180 --> 01:47:59.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: economic impact na mas malaki asr-001674 01:47:59.180 --> 01:48:01.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kaysa sa human capital? asr-001675 01:48:01.180 --> 01:48:03.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yung mga ganitong uri ng asr-001676 01:48:03.180 --> 01:48:05.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: paggastos? asr-001677 01:48:13.180 --> 01:48:15.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-001678 01:48:15.180 --> 01:48:17.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-001679 01:48:17.180 --> 01:48:19.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as for the DEP-DEB, asr-001680 01:48:19.180 --> 01:48:21.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in terms asr-001681 01:48:21.180 --> 01:48:23.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the decreases, just speaking to the asr-001682 01:48:23.180 --> 01:48:25.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: decreases, there asr-001683 01:48:25.180 --> 01:48:27.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: was in certain sectors asr-001684 01:48:27.180 --> 01:48:29.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in particular areas, a one-off asr-001685 01:48:29.180 --> 01:48:31.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: increase asr-001686 01:48:31.180 --> 01:48:33.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: because of what asr-001687 01:48:33.180 --> 01:48:35.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: happened in the last budget asr-001688 01:48:35.180 --> 01:48:37.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: deliberation. asr-001689 01:48:37.180 --> 01:48:39.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that asr-001690 01:48:39.180 --> 01:48:41.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least on the part of DEP-DEB, that's one of the asr-001691 01:48:41.180 --> 01:48:43.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: reasons why there has been a nominal decrease asr-001692 01:48:43.180 --> 01:48:45.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in some asr-001693 01:48:45.180 --> 01:48:47.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like the nominal value of asr-001694 01:48:47.180 --> 01:48:49.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particular budget proposals asr-001695 01:48:49.180 --> 01:48:51.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for particular sectors. asr-001696 01:48:51.180 --> 01:48:53.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you Madam asr-001697 01:48:53.180 --> 01:48:55.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Speaker, Madam Chair. Pero asr-001698 01:48:55.180 --> 01:48:57.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bakit napakalaking asr-001699 01:48:57.180 --> 01:48:59.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng pondo para sa mga ayuda asr-001700 01:48:59.180 --> 01:49:01.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa LGSF, samantalang asr-001701 01:49:01.180 --> 01:49:03.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung utilization rate naman nila asr-001702 01:49:03.180 --> 01:49:05.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: noong 2025, asr-001703 01:49:05.180 --> 01:49:07.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2026 ay hindi asr-001704 01:49:07.180 --> 01:49:09.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pa ganap at napakababa? asr-001705 01:49:09.180 --> 01:49:11.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit yun ang dinadagdagan? asr-001706 01:49:11.180 --> 01:49:13.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit yung asr-001707 01:49:13.180 --> 01:49:15.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pondo para sa asr-001708 01:49:15.180 --> 01:49:17.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: edukasyon, para sa health? asr-001709 01:49:17.180 --> 01:49:19.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit yun ang binabawasan? asr-001710 01:49:21.180 --> 01:49:23.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Hindi ko po masyadong maunawaan asr-001711 01:49:23.180 --> 01:49:25.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na, asr-001712 01:49:25.180 --> 01:49:27.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: malaki pa ang pondo. Sabi nga asr-001713 01:49:27.180 --> 01:49:29.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kanina, 58% lang asr-001714 01:49:29.180 --> 01:49:31.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung utilization rate ng asr-001715 01:49:31.180 --> 01:49:33.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: LGSF. asr-001716 01:49:33.180 --> 01:49:35.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Napakalaki po ng mga pondo asr-001717 01:49:35.180 --> 01:49:37.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: para sa asr-001718 01:49:37.180 --> 01:49:39.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: IEX, asr-001719 01:49:39.180 --> 01:49:41.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: TUPAD na hindi pa naman naungubos. asr-001720 01:49:41.180 --> 01:49:43.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit pinalaki asr-001721 01:49:43.180 --> 01:49:45.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pa ito ngayon, asr-001722 01:49:45.180 --> 01:49:47.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pagkatapos binawasan asr-001723 01:49:47.180 --> 01:49:49.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung para sa edukasyon, health, asr-001724 01:49:49.180 --> 01:49:51.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at sa agrikultura? Ano pong asr-001725 01:49:51.180 --> 01:49:53.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ah asr-001726 01:49:53.180 --> 01:49:55.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ano pong asr-001727 01:49:55.180 --> 01:49:57.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: makabuluhang dahilan asr-001728 01:49:57.180 --> 01:49:59.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bakit ito ginawa? asr-001729 01:50:01.180 --> 01:50:03.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-001730 01:50:03.180 --> 01:50:05.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to the NEP, asr-001731 01:50:05.180 --> 01:50:07.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the crafting of the NEP, the asr-001732 01:50:07.180 --> 01:50:09.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEP-DEV doesn't have asr-001733 01:50:09.180 --> 01:50:11.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: purview over the crafting of the NEP. asr-001734 01:50:11.180 --> 01:50:13.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So the DEP-DEV can't speak asr-001735 01:50:13.180 --> 01:50:15.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to asr-001736 01:50:15.180 --> 01:50:17.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the allocations of sectors. asr-001737 01:50:19.180 --> 01:50:21.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang DEP-DEV po ay asr-001738 01:50:21.180 --> 01:50:23.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: hindi asr-001739 01:50:23.180 --> 01:50:25.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: parte ng policy making asr-001740 01:50:25.180 --> 01:50:27.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in terms of asr-001741 01:50:27.180 --> 01:50:29.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: items of asr-001742 01:50:29.180 --> 01:50:31.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: expenditures asr-001743 01:50:31.180 --> 01:50:33.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: that should be prioritized asr-001744 01:50:33.180 --> 01:50:35.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: by the government? asr-001745 01:50:47.180 --> 01:50:49.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to asr-001746 01:50:49.180 --> 01:50:51.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the prioritization of sectors, asr-001747 01:50:51.180 --> 01:50:53.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEP-DEV is involved asr-001748 01:50:53.180 --> 01:50:55.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the prioritization asr-001749 01:50:55.180 --> 01:50:57.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the sectors, asr-001750 01:50:57.180 --> 01:50:59.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which would reflect asr-001751 01:50:59.180 --> 01:51:01.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in the NEP. asr-001752 01:51:01.180 --> 01:51:03.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So hindi po asr-001753 01:51:03.180 --> 01:51:05.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na-prioritize, wala pong input asr-001754 01:51:05.180 --> 01:51:07.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa prioritization asr-001755 01:51:07.180 --> 01:51:09.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang DEP-DEV pagdating po sa edukasyon, asr-001756 01:51:09.180 --> 01:51:11.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa health, sa pagbabawas nito, asr-001757 01:51:11.180 --> 01:51:13.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at sa pagdadagdag asr-001758 01:51:13.180 --> 01:51:15.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa mga ayuda, asr-001759 01:51:15.180 --> 01:51:17.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: LGSF, asr-001760 01:51:17.180 --> 01:51:19.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: wala po bang input dito asr-001761 01:51:19.180 --> 01:51:21.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ang DEP-DEV? asr-001762 01:51:21.180 --> 01:51:23.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEP-DEV recommends, asr-001763 01:51:23.180 --> 01:51:25.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-001764 01:51:25.180 --> 01:51:27.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in line with asr-001765 01:51:27.180 --> 01:51:29.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: whatever it is asr-001766 01:51:29.180 --> 01:51:31.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that is incorporated asr-001767 01:51:31.180 --> 01:51:33.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: into the Philippine Development Plan. asr-001768 01:51:33.180 --> 01:51:35.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pwede ko bang sabihin asr-001769 01:51:35.180 --> 01:51:37.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na ang naging priority asr-001770 01:51:37.180 --> 01:51:39.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng Administrasyong Marcos asr-001771 01:51:39.180 --> 01:51:41.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay hindi po asr-001772 01:51:41.180 --> 01:51:43.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung magpapaunlad asr-001773 01:51:43.180 --> 01:51:45.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng ating asr-001774 01:51:45.180 --> 01:51:47.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ekonomiya, kundi asr-001775 01:51:47.180 --> 01:51:49.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kung paano asr-001776 01:51:49.180 --> 01:51:51.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mapagbibigyan yung mga kaalyado asr-001777 01:51:51.180 --> 01:51:53.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa politika? asr-001778 01:51:53.180 --> 01:51:55.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yan po ba yan? Dahil karamihan po asr-001779 01:51:55.180 --> 01:51:57.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng mga ayuda, lalo na ng LGSF, asr-001780 01:51:57.180 --> 01:51:59.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay binibigay sa mga asr-001781 01:51:59.180 --> 01:52:01.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: politiko, sa mga asr-001782 01:52:01.180 --> 01:52:03.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: local government. asr-001783 01:52:03.180 --> 01:52:05.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pwede ko bang masabi yun? asr-001784 01:52:05.180 --> 01:52:07.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pwede bang maging asr-001785 01:52:07.180 --> 01:52:09.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: conclusion natin yun? asr-001786 01:52:11.180 --> 01:52:13.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, asr-001787 01:52:13.180 --> 01:52:15.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DEP-DEV really just recommends asr-001788 01:52:15.180 --> 01:52:17.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: policies in line with asr-001789 01:52:17.180 --> 01:52:19.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the objectives of the Philippine Development Plan, asr-001790 01:52:19.180 --> 01:52:21.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. asr-001800 01:52:39.180 --> 01:52:41.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I just hope that asr-001801 01:52:41.180 --> 01:52:43.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in the asr-001802 01:52:43.180 --> 01:52:45.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 2028 budget, asr-001803 01:52:45.180 --> 01:52:47.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: yung funding for human capital asr-001804 01:52:47.180 --> 01:52:49.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: development, asr-001805 01:52:49.180 --> 01:52:51.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: livelihood support, asr-001806 01:52:51.180 --> 01:52:53.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and productivity asr-001807 01:52:53.180 --> 01:52:55.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ay prioritized na po asr-001808 01:52:55.180 --> 01:52:57.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sa pamagitan ng recommendation asr-001809 01:52:57.180 --> 01:52:59.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng DEP-DEV asr-001810 01:52:59.180 --> 01:53:01.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: sapagkat asr-001811 01:53:01.180 --> 01:53:03.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kayo naman po ang inaasahan asr-001812 01:53:03.180 --> 01:53:05.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na siyang magbibigay asr-001813 01:53:05.180 --> 01:53:07.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng direction, policy direction asr-001814 01:53:07.180 --> 01:53:09.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pang asr-001815 01:53:09.180 --> 01:53:11.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mangat ang buhay ng ating asr-001816 01:53:11.180 --> 01:53:13.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga kababayan, mangat ang buhay asr-001817 01:53:13.180 --> 01:53:15.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: ng ating asr-001818 01:53:15.180 --> 01:53:17.180 Rep. Edgar R. Erice: bansa. Maraming salamat po. asr-001819 01:53:19.180 --> 01:53:20.050 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? asr-001821 01:53:25.150 --> 01:53:25.760 Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, asr-001822 01:53:25.760 --> 01:53:27.080 Rep. Brian Poe: I'd like to recognize asr-001823 01:53:27.080 --> 01:53:28.740 Rep. Brian Poe: Congressman Serge asr-001824 01:53:28.740 --> 01:53:30.340 Rep. Brian Poe: Dagooc for his asr-001825 01:53:30.340 --> 01:53:31.320 Rep. Brian Poe: interpellation. asr-001826 01:53:40.400 --> 01:53:41.800 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Dagooc asr-001827 01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:42.700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is now recognized asr-001828 01:53:42.700 --> 01:53:44.360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: for his interpellation. asr-001829 01:53:51.180 --> 01:53:53.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-001830 01:53:53.180 --> 01:53:55.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Majority Leader. asr-001831 01:53:55.180 --> 01:53:57.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: For the asr-001832 01:53:57.180 --> 01:53:59.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: distinguished sponsor, asr-001833 01:53:59.180 --> 01:54:01.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yield to asr-001834 01:54:01.180 --> 01:54:03.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: only one issue asr-001835 01:54:03.180 --> 01:54:05.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: for the DEP-DEV. asr-001836 01:54:05.180 --> 01:54:07.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-001837 01:54:07.180 --> 01:54:09.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, asr-001838 01:54:09.180 --> 01:54:11.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker. Thank you, asr-001839 01:54:11.180 --> 01:54:13.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: distinguished sponsor. asr-001840 01:54:13.180 --> 01:54:15.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: First of all, asr-001841 01:54:15.180 --> 01:54:17.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I appreciate asr-001842 01:54:17.180 --> 01:54:19.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the asr-001843 01:54:19.180 --> 01:54:23.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: timely asr-001844 01:54:23.180 --> 01:54:25.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: submission of asr-001845 01:54:25.180 --> 01:54:27.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: DEP-DEV asr-001846 01:54:27.180 --> 01:54:29.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on the data I have requested asr-001847 01:54:29.180 --> 01:54:31.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: during the budget briefing. asr-001848 01:54:31.180 --> 01:54:33.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: But as a backgrounder, asr-001849 01:54:33.180 --> 01:54:35.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I did not only asr-001850 01:54:35.180 --> 01:54:37.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ask this data during asr-001851 01:54:37.180 --> 01:54:39.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the budget briefing. asr-001852 01:54:39.180 --> 01:54:41.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: In the previous committee hearings asr-001853 01:54:41.180 --> 01:54:43.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: of the Committee on Ways and Means, asr-001854 01:54:43.180 --> 01:54:45.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: particularly when we asr-001855 01:54:45.180 --> 01:54:47.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: deliberated the asr-001856 01:54:47.180 --> 01:54:49.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bill granting special powers, asr-001857 01:54:49.180 --> 01:54:51.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to the President, asr-001858 01:54:51.180 --> 01:54:53.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ay lumipad pa nga ako dito asr-001859 01:54:53.180 --> 01:54:55.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: dahil break 'yun asr-001860 01:54:55.180 --> 01:54:57.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: para lang maka-attend sa Ways and Means. asr-001861 01:54:57.180 --> 01:54:59.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yung special asr-001862 01:54:59.180 --> 01:55:01.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: power to asr-001863 01:55:01.180 --> 01:55:03.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: suspend asr-001864 01:55:03.180 --> 01:55:05.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: some taxes asr-001865 01:55:05.180 --> 01:55:07.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on oil. asr-001866 01:55:07.180 --> 01:55:09.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero hindi po asr-001867 01:55:09.180 --> 01:55:11.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nakapagbigay si PSA asr-001868 01:55:11.180 --> 01:55:13.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: at saka si DTI. asr-001869 01:55:13.180 --> 01:55:15.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Because I wanted to know asr-001870 01:55:15.180 --> 01:55:17.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the percentage share asr-001871 01:55:17.180 --> 01:55:19.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: of electricity asr-001872 01:55:19.180 --> 01:55:21.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and oil asr-001873 01:55:21.180 --> 01:55:23.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on the cost of production asr-001874 01:55:23.180 --> 01:55:25.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and asr-001875 01:55:25.180 --> 01:55:27.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: services. asr-001876 01:55:27.180 --> 01:55:29.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Cost of asr-001877 01:55:29.180 --> 01:55:31.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: products and services. asr-001878 01:55:31.180 --> 01:55:33.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, asr-001879 01:55:33.180 --> 01:55:35.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kaya inulit ko 'to, asr-001880 01:55:35.180 --> 01:55:37.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nagtuturuan yung dalawa. asr-001881 01:55:37.180 --> 01:55:39.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit ko hiningi 'yon? asr-001882 01:55:39.180 --> 01:55:41.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Napakaimportante 'yon. Kasi asr-001883 01:55:41.180 --> 01:55:43.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I wanted to make sure asr-001884 01:55:43.180 --> 01:55:45.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na the asr-001885 01:55:45.180 --> 01:55:47.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: amount of any asr-001886 01:55:47.180 --> 01:55:49.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: revenue na asr-001887 01:55:49.180 --> 01:55:51.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na [unclear] ng government asr-001888 01:55:51.180 --> 01:55:53.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: para lang mabawasan yung presyo, asr-001889 01:55:53.180 --> 01:55:55.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: would reflect the asr-001890 01:55:55.180 --> 01:55:57.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: price of that goods. asr-001891 01:55:57.180 --> 01:55:59.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: And in the case of oil, asr-001892 01:55:59.180 --> 01:56:01.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: would reflect the pump price. asr-001894 01:56:01.300 --> 01:56:11.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kung tanggalan natin ng excise tax yung 12 pesos per liter, dapat mag-reflect yung reduction na 12 pesos per liter sa pump price. asr-001898 01:56:11.800 --> 01:56:23.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kung mabawasan natin, with yung advocacy ko since 2019, na wala ngang VAT yung systems loss. Dahil losses na nga yun eh. asr-001904 01:56:23.200 --> 01:56:44.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: It is not a product, not a service. Pero after seven years lang na-realize ko, napakaliit yung systems loss na yan compared doon sa buong taxes ng kuryente natin na pinapatawan ng multiple taxes. asr-001915 01:56:44.700 --> 01:57:01.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ngayon hindi maibigay-bigay. Inulit ko lately sa DBCC na ibigay naman ni DepDev noong September 14, kasi ang usapan bago mag-plenary. asr-001923 01:57:02.100 --> 01:57:15.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: But to my surprise, ang binigay ni DepDev na data galing sa PSA is 2018. asr-001930 01:57:15.180 --> 01:57:25.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, when I look at the budget of Dipdib, pinakamalaki yung PSA asr-001931 01:57:25.940 --> 01:57:33.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Dahil nga, isa sana sa mga tanong ko kanina, pakit biglang lumubo yung budget ng PSA asr-001932 01:57:33.120 --> 01:57:37.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero naitanong na ng mga kasamahan ko asr-001933 01:57:37.120 --> 01:57:40.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, parang nag-catch up si PSA asr-001934 01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:45.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ngayon, ano ang hugot ko dito sa 2018? asr-001935 01:57:45.180 --> 01:57:52.740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, doon ko napagtanto, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor asr-001936 01:57:52.740 --> 01:58:00.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Na inconsistent yung presentation ni Dipdib during the budget briefing asr-001937 01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:13.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi, on that presentation, Dipdib admitted na isa sa pangunahing sanhi na bumaba yung FDI natin asr-001938 01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:18.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ay dahil yung napakataas ang cost of electricity asr-001939 01:58:18.420 --> 01:58:20.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Which I agree asr-001940 01:58:20.360 --> 01:58:27.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero kung tingnan mo yung mga proposed na solutions and recommendation asr-001941 01:58:27.660 --> 01:58:31.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nasa long term po yung part ng electricity asr-001942 01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:34.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, there is inconsistency asr-001943 01:58:34.120 --> 01:58:43.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Now, dadagdagan pa ng recommendation ng PPP asr-001944 01:58:43.600 --> 01:58:50.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Na i-PPP yung rehabilitasyon or i-privatize yung Agus and Pulangi asr-001945 01:58:50.600 --> 01:58:55.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Which is, for me, mali na naman yung data na ginamit asr-001946 01:58:55.420 --> 01:58:56.460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Maybe in the evaluation asr-001947 01:58:56.460 --> 01:59:00.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi dito sa 2018, if this is the basis asr-001948 01:59:00.340 --> 01:59:07.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Talagang lumilitaw na maliit lang yung percentage share ng electricity asr-001949 01:59:07.180 --> 01:59:09.760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Doon sa cost of productions asr-001950 01:59:09.760 --> 01:59:11.820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, sa products and services asr-001951 01:59:11.820 --> 01:59:13.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Dahil napakamura asr-001952 01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:15.720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang kurinti nung 2018 asr-001953 01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:18.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya siguro, napagdesisyonan asr-001954 01:59:18.080 --> 01:59:20.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I-privatize na lang natin asr-001955 01:59:20.080 --> 01:59:22.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Which is not the case at present asr-001956 01:59:22.480 --> 01:59:25.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Itong data na 2018 asr-001957 01:59:25.080 --> 01:59:27.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kung this is the basis of the recommendation asr-001958 01:59:27.960 --> 01:59:29.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ay maling-mali asr-001959 01:59:29.260 --> 01:59:34.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi mataas na po yung share or cost ng electricity asr-001960 01:59:34.860 --> 01:59:37.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Biruin mo ang domino effect nito asr-001961 01:59:37.640 --> 01:59:41.680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: We are funding billions of pesos sa infrastructure asr-001962 01:59:41.680 --> 01:59:43.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ilang libo asr-001963 01:59:43.600 --> 01:59:48.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Or milyon, milyones na sako ng siminto ang kailangan asr-001964 01:59:48.320 --> 01:59:50.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Doon sa mga infra natin asr-001965 01:59:50.080 --> 01:59:53.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ilang kabilya yung minamanufacture asr-001966 01:59:53.140 --> 01:59:56.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Eh kung tansyahin mo yung cost of electricity asr-001967 01:59:56.600 --> 01:59:59.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: To produce those infra asr-001968 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:21.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang laki sana ng ginhawa natin kung natutukan natin yung kurinti aside sa pagpasok ng FDI that can generate employment, generate revenue in terms of taxes, etc., etc., we can reduce the cost of budget for infra na magamit natin sa ano. asr-001969 02:00:21.180 --> 02:00:51.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero hindi natutukan yung kuryente dahil palagay ko mali yung mga data na [unclear]. Very clear po, Madam Speaker, yung mandate ng PSA sa charter nila: timely and accurate data na gagamitin ng ating gobyerno to determine doon sa mga ire-recommend na projects and programs for economic asr-001970 02:00:51.180 --> 02:01:08.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: development. Kaya po, ang itatanong ko ngayon, sino po sa DepDev ang nag-prepare nito? I give the benefit of the doubt. asr-001971 02:01:09.580 --> 02:01:16.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I'm managing two electric distribution utilities for the last 33 years. asr-001972 02:01:17.620 --> 02:01:20.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Annually, we filled up. asr-001973 02:01:21.180 --> 02:01:26.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: On time, yung survey form ng PSA sa Karaga. asr-001974 02:01:27.320 --> 02:01:30.740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pag natanggap namin, two days after, binabalik na namin. asr-001975 02:01:31.360 --> 02:01:32.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Bakit 2018 pa? asr-001976 02:01:33.220 --> 02:01:39.280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Yet yung electrification program ang busy sa unenergized households, 2015. asr-001977 02:01:40.420 --> 02:01:44.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ngayon, 8 billion yata yung hiningi. Parang nag-catch up ang PSA. asr-001978 02:01:44.600 --> 02:01:47.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So nakikita ko itong agency na to. asr-001979 02:01:48.120 --> 02:01:51.040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mukhang is a contributor. asr-001980 02:01:51.180 --> 02:01:53.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sa mga maling recommendation. asr-001981 02:01:53.180 --> 02:01:55.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So erase the doubt. asr-001982 02:01:55.180 --> 02:02:01.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Then, sino po yung specific name of person na nag-prepare nitong letter na to? asr-001983 02:02:01.320 --> 02:02:08.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: At sino yung person, personnel sa PSA na nagbigay nito? asr-001984 02:02:08.320 --> 02:02:12.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished Sponsor, Madam Chair, Madam Speaker. asr-001985 02:02:12.320 --> 02:02:14.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you. asr-001988 02:02:40.680 --> 02:02:45.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: While hinahanap niyo yung tao, asr-001989 02:02:45.540 --> 02:02:49.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: [unclear] ni good Secretary of DepDev, asr-001990 02:02:49.060 --> 02:02:50.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: what is the basic tool asr-001994 02:02:53.460 --> 02:02:55.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na ginagamit nyo asr-001995 02:02:55.360 --> 02:02:57.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: as a asr-001996 02:02:57.600 --> 02:02:59.280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: criteria. One of the basic asr-001997 02:02:59.280 --> 02:03:00.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tool or one of the basic asr-001998 02:03:00.960 --> 02:03:03.580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: criteria na ginagamit nyo asr-001999 02:03:03.580 --> 02:03:05.560 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa pag-recommend asr-002000 02:03:05.560 --> 02:03:07.240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa LIDAC, for example, asr-002001 02:03:07.680 --> 02:03:09.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na ito yung mga gagawin natin. asr-002002 02:03:09.600 --> 02:03:11.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Particularly on economic asr-002003 02:03:11.080 --> 02:03:13.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: development. Kasi yan yung asr-002004 02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:15.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: trabaho ninyo. Anong ginagamit asr-002005 02:03:15.500 --> 02:03:15.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nyo na tool? asr-002006 02:03:17.580 --> 02:03:18.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished sponsor. asr-002007 02:03:21.020 --> 02:03:24.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, just to asr-002008 02:03:24.320 --> 02:03:26.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: address the first point, asr-002009 02:03:27.280 --> 02:03:28.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the input-output asr-002010 02:03:28.640 --> 02:03:30.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: survey... asr-002011 02:03:30.380 --> 02:03:32.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: No, tinatanong ko asr-002012 02:03:32.080 --> 02:03:34.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, asr-002013 02:03:35.400 --> 02:03:36.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ano yung asr-002014 02:03:36.000 --> 02:03:38.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: basic tool while hinahanap nyo yung asr-002015 02:03:38.540 --> 02:03:40.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: tao? Kasi kanina yung asr-002016 02:03:40.420 --> 02:03:42.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: hinihingi ko, sinong tao? asr-002017 02:03:43.280 --> 02:03:44.420 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi parang asr-002018 02:03:44.420 --> 02:03:46.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nagtuturuan na dito na asr-002019 02:03:46.200 --> 02:03:48.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: hindi naman sulat nila asr-002020 02:03:48.660 --> 02:03:50.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to. So, galing asr-002021 02:03:50.700 --> 02:03:52.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ito sa kaninong tao. asr-002022 02:03:53.000 --> 02:03:54.400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: While we're waiting for that asr-002023 02:03:54.400 --> 02:03:55.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: pangalan ng tao, asr-002024 02:03:56.480 --> 02:03:58.740 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ano bang basic tool na ginagamit asr-002025 02:03:58.740 --> 02:03:59.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ni DipDip asr-002026 02:03:59.640 --> 02:04:02.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to evaluate? Anong program? asr-002027 02:04:02.940 --> 02:04:03.580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Anong asr-002028 02:04:03.580 --> 02:04:06.680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: development asr-002029 02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:11.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: development programs asr-002030 02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:12.040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: na asr-002031 02:04:12.040 --> 02:04:14.880 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kanyang isasama sa LIDAC asr-002032 02:04:14.880 --> 02:04:16.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and ultimately to the NIP? asr-002033 02:04:19.200 --> 02:04:20.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Diba, Mr. asr-002034 02:04:20.700 --> 02:04:22.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Diba, Distinguished Sponsor, asr-002035 02:04:24.620 --> 02:04:26.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mr. Secretary, DITA. asr-002036 02:04:27.160 --> 02:04:28.760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Diba DITA ang ginagamit ninyo? asr-002037 02:04:30.420 --> 02:04:31.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Am I correct? asr-002038 02:04:33.600 --> 02:04:34.760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Am I correct? DITA, asr-002039 02:04:35.660 --> 02:04:37.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: isa sa mga basic tools na asr-002040 02:04:37.500 --> 02:04:38.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ginagamit ninyo. asr-002041 02:04:40.400 --> 02:04:41.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Am I correct? asr-002042 02:04:42.000 --> 02:04:43.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002043 02:04:43.580 --> 02:04:45.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, the DepDev uses asr-002044 02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:46.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: econometrics. asr-002045 02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:49.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a macroeconomic, asr-002046 02:04:49.280 --> 02:04:50.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: macroeconomic, asr-002047 02:04:50.700 --> 02:04:51.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: models. asr-002048 02:04:51.880 --> 02:04:53.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: But that model uses DITA. asr-002049 02:04:54.120 --> 02:04:54.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-002050 02:04:54.740 --> 02:04:56.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, kung mali yung DITA, asr-002051 02:04:57.480 --> 02:04:59.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ika nga garbage in, asr-002052 02:04:59.420 --> 02:05:01.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: garbage out. Tama po ba ako, asr-002053 02:05:01.620 --> 02:05:02.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker? asr-002054 02:05:03.120 --> 02:05:04.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002055 02:05:04.280 --> 02:05:06.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, kung mali yung DITA, mali yung may asr-002056 02:05:06.520 --> 02:05:08.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: recommend ninyo kasi mali yung pananaw ninyo asr-002057 02:05:08.520 --> 02:05:10.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa isang bagay. That is how asr-002058 02:05:10.480 --> 02:05:12.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: important. Kaya medyo, asr-002059 02:05:12.780 --> 02:05:14.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I am frustrated asr-002060 02:05:14.260 --> 02:05:15.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: with what I have received. asr-002061 02:05:16.480 --> 02:05:18.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, ngayon, sino yung tao na yun na asr-002062 02:05:18.700 --> 02:05:20.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: nagbigay? Hindi siya dapat asr-002063 02:05:20.660 --> 02:05:22.520 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: maratili sa either sa asr-002064 02:05:22.520 --> 02:05:23.980 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: DepDev or sa PSE. asr-002065 02:05:25.820 --> 02:05:27.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi napakalaking asr-002066 02:05:27.080 --> 02:05:28.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: pinsala yung ginawa niya asr-002067 02:05:28.860 --> 02:05:30.660 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kung nagbigay siya ng mali na DITA. asr-002076 02:05:55.660 --> 02:05:57.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002077 02:05:58.100 --> 02:06:00.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: You recognize the sentiments, asr-002078 02:06:01.080 --> 02:06:02.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: definitely the concerns of asr-002079 02:06:02.260 --> 02:06:03.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable Tagoo. asr-002080 02:06:04.280 --> 02:06:06.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to give a background about asr-002081 02:06:06.640 --> 02:06:08.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this, the input, the IO asr-002082 02:06:08.680 --> 02:06:10.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: survey, asr-002083 02:06:10.820 --> 02:06:12.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the IO tables, the input-output tables. asr-002084 02:06:13.600 --> 02:06:14.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The survey, asr-002085 02:06:15.000 --> 02:06:20.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which is the asr-002105 02:06:20.440 --> 02:06:23.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: CPBIO, asr-002106 02:06:24.060 --> 02:06:26.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Census of Businesses and Industries asr-002107 02:06:26.660 --> 02:06:28.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: survey. asr-002108 02:06:28.920 --> 02:06:30.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These are conducted asr-002109 02:06:30.140 --> 02:06:31.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: every six years. asr-002110 02:06:32.040 --> 02:06:34.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So from the part asr-002111 02:06:34.380 --> 02:06:35.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of DepDev, according to DepDev, asr-002112 02:06:35.900 --> 02:06:37.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the data that was given to the asr-002113 02:06:37.940 --> 02:06:39.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable Tagoo was for the asr-002114 02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:40.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 2018 asr-002115 02:06:40.720 --> 02:06:41.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: IOs. asr-002117 02:06:42.200 --> 02:06:48.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The most recent asr-002118 02:06:48.060 --> 02:06:50.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: survey was conducted in 2025, asr-002119 02:06:50.000 --> 02:06:50.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with reference to the asr-002143 02:06:52.460 --> 02:06:58.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 2024 data. There is preliminary asr-002144 02:06:58.600 --> 02:07:02.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: data which the PSA is ready to provide. asr-002145 02:07:02.140 --> 02:07:06.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, these are not official statistics yet. asr-002146 02:07:08.520 --> 02:07:14.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: An indulgence of Honorable Tagoo, the PSA has given its commitment that if the Honorable Tagoo asr-002147 02:07:14.520 --> 02:07:19.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: desires to see the preliminary data, particularly with the IO, asr-002148 02:07:19.980 --> 02:07:23.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and electricity costs, Madam Speaker, the PSA is ready. asr-002159 02:07:23.800 --> 02:07:24.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Distinguished Sponsor, asr-002161 02:07:25.700 --> 02:07:28.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: it is not acceptable to me. asr-002162 02:07:28.360 --> 02:07:29.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ang tanong ko, asr-002163 02:07:30.500 --> 02:07:32.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: is it provided asr-002164 02:07:32.000 --> 02:07:33.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: in your charter asr-002165 02:07:33.940 --> 02:07:35.240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung asr-002166 02:07:35.240 --> 02:07:37.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: six years na asr-002167 02:07:37.260 --> 02:07:38.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: survey o asr-002168 02:07:38.300 --> 02:07:40.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: kayo-kayo lang ang nag-sit na asr-002169 02:07:40.320 --> 02:07:42.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: every three years, every two years, every six years? asr-002170 02:07:43.400 --> 02:07:44.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Is it provided asr-002171 02:07:44.620 --> 02:07:47.040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: under 10.625? asr-002172 02:07:48.340 --> 02:07:49.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi napaka-importante itong mga asr-002173 02:07:49.920 --> 02:07:50.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: data na 'to. asr-002174 02:07:50.020 --> 02:08:10.280 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pero biruin mo yung layo ng presyo ng kuryente sa six years, tapos gawin mong six years yung mga data na 'yan. Buti kung households lang 'yan; it does not affect the economic decisions. No, yung mga economic recommendations, it affects. asr-002175 02:08:10.280 --> 02:08:23.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi six years na cost ng electricity. For example, to be specific, yung 2018 na kuryente sa Mindanao ay six pesos, eight pesos, nineteen pesos na ngayon. asr-002176 02:08:23.700 --> 02:08:40.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sinong nagsit ng 6 years? Is that compliant with your charter which specifically provides that you are created to give timely and accurate data for use sa gobyerno natin? asr-002177 02:08:40.280 --> 02:08:47.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Is that timely yung 6 years? O kayo-kayo lang ang nagsit para hindi kayo mahirapan? asr-002178 02:08:49.420 --> 02:09:08.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Can you imagine, I know, the good Secretary Balisakan, ay naintindihan mo ako, because you are aware, ano yung cost nitong hinihingi ko, anong impact nito sa ating budget process, priority decision of project. asr-002179 02:09:09.200 --> 02:09:10.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya hindi. asr-002180 02:09:10.280 --> 02:09:19.720 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi po para sa akin, hindi po maliit na bagay itong 28 na data, tapos gagamitin mo sa 2027 na budget. asr-002181 02:09:20.280 --> 02:09:25.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi maliit na bagay yun. Napakataas na discrepancy yun na magkamali yung desisyon mo. asr-002182 02:09:28.380 --> 02:09:39.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Biroin mo yung asawa mo kung mag-prepare ng budget mo sa 2027, ibigay mo lang yung sahod mo sa 2028 na sahod mo. asr-002183 02:09:40.280 --> 02:09:40.820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tama ba yun? asr-002184 02:09:44.340 --> 02:09:54.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, as per the DepDev, all the timings of the surveys are determined by the PSA Board. So this is an interagency board. asr-002185 02:09:57.480 --> 02:10:06.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, it's shared by the DepDev Secretary, but there are multiple members. asr-002186 02:10:06.140 --> 02:10:10.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker, with all jurisprudence. asr-002187 02:10:10.280 --> 02:10:36.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Hindi po sagot sa ating problema sa pag-determine ng priority projects at recommendations on our economic development program, yung kung sinong namumuno at dahil sinit nila yan ng 6 years, 5 years, 4 years, ay tama na sila. asr-002188 02:10:36.160 --> 02:10:39.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I'm asking, is that compliant? asr-002189 02:10:40.280 --> 02:10:52.780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Is that compliant or consistent or in accordance with the provisions of your charter na sinasabi timely and accurate? asr-002190 02:10:53.220 --> 02:11:01.840 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: That is no longer accurate. 2018 is not accurate with the data of 2025. So you are violating your charter. asr-002191 02:11:02.660 --> 02:11:04.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So ngayon, bakit hingi kayo ng budget? asr-002192 02:11:04.360 --> 02:11:09.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: You are not even compliant with what you are doing. asr-002193 02:11:09.400 --> 02:11:10.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: You are not compliant. asr-002194 02:11:10.280 --> 02:11:10.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: You are not compliant with your charter. asr-002195 02:11:11.140 --> 02:11:14.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi ko na ito pahabain for the interest of time. asr-002196 02:11:14.280 --> 02:11:16.100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ayaw kong i-hostage yung mga kasamaan ko. asr-002197 02:11:16.740 --> 02:11:19.140 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, hindi ko na ituloy. asr-002198 02:11:19.660 --> 02:11:28.440 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi, sawa na po ako sa 7 taon na yung mga agency, patapusin lang nila yung oras ng interpelator. asr-002199 02:11:29.200 --> 02:11:31.380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Naghihintay kami, naghihintay yung asawa ko. asr-002200 02:11:32.040 --> 02:11:35.380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tapos, nakajakit na nga, nakamaro, nakaano pa. asr-002201 02:11:35.840 --> 02:11:37.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tapos, wala namang mangyari. asr-002202 02:11:37.600 --> 02:11:39.820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Pagkatapos, ay anyway, approved naman nila yun. asr-002203 02:11:40.120 --> 02:11:40.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sige, hindi ko na ituloy. asr-002204 02:11:40.280 --> 02:11:41.760 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I've been years na ako sa ganito. asr-002205 02:11:42.360 --> 02:11:48.180 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Alam ng mga tao dito sa roles na hindi ako umalis dito habang ano. asr-002206 02:11:48.680 --> 02:11:53.580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya, it is unacceptable for me na gani-ganito na lang. asr-002207 02:11:54.200 --> 02:12:00.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi, napakalaki ang impact na dita na ito sa ating desisyon sa pag-budget. asr-002208 02:12:00.340 --> 02:12:01.820 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Sa rekomendasyon ng dip-dip. asr-002209 02:12:02.220 --> 02:12:08.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya, you are created by law para magbigay ng rekomendasyon. asr-002210 02:12:08.060 --> 02:12:10.160 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: At alam ko, dita yung ginagawa. asr-002211 02:12:10.280 --> 02:12:15.800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Nagamit ninyo sa pag-evaluate kung ano yung i-recommend nyo. asr-002212 02:12:16.320 --> 02:12:19.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Ngayon, kung mali yung dita, garbage in, garbage out nga. asr-002213 02:12:20.500 --> 02:12:24.240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, I will not prolong the agony of others. asr-002214 02:12:25.940 --> 02:12:30.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Tatapusin ko na yung interpellation ko sa dip-dip. asr-002215 02:12:31.940 --> 02:12:34.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Including yung PSA. asr-002216 02:12:35.540 --> 02:12:36.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Mamaya na lang. asr-002217 02:12:37.200 --> 02:12:38.480 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-002218 02:12:38.480 --> 02:12:39.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor. asr-002219 02:12:41.180 --> 02:12:42.160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: [unclear] Leader. asr-002220 02:12:43.220 --> 02:12:49.600 Rep. Brian Poe: Madam Speaker, we'd like to now call upon Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party List for his interpellation. asr-002221 02:12:51.940 --> 02:12:56.980 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Robert Nazal of BH Party List is now recognized for his interpellation. asr-002222 02:13:07.040 --> 02:13:09.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, just to clarify, this is for DBM already. asr-002223 02:13:10.280 --> 02:13:26.600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I'll go right to my questions asr-002224 02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:28.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair asr-002225 02:13:28.400 --> 02:13:30.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hold muna asr-002226 02:13:30.900 --> 02:13:35.580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Paki suspend yung time asr-002227 02:13:40.280 --> 02:13:43.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair asr-002228 02:13:43.720 --> 02:13:46.100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to request our asr-002229 02:13:46.100 --> 02:13:48.000 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Technical Committee asr-002230 02:13:48.000 --> 02:13:50.400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: to please suspend the time or return it to zero asr-002231 02:13:50.400 --> 02:13:51.420 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: since the asr-002232 02:13:51.420 --> 02:13:54.140 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Nassal has not yet started asr-002233 02:13:54.140 --> 02:13:55.020 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: asking questions asr-002234 02:13:55.020 --> 02:13:57.400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Please stop the time asr-002235 02:13:57.400 --> 02:13:59.500 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: You may proceed asr-002236 02:13:59.500 --> 02:14:01.620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you Madam Chair asr-002237 02:14:01.620 --> 02:14:05.180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished colleague asr-002238 02:14:05.180 --> 02:14:06.780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So for DBM asr-002239 02:14:06.780 --> 02:14:10.140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Gusto ko lang pong balikan yung asr-002240 02:14:10.140 --> 02:14:12.420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pinakel natin kanina asr-002241 02:14:12.420 --> 02:14:14.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair asr-002242 02:14:14.720 --> 02:14:17.000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam asr-002243 02:14:17.000 --> 02:14:18.840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished colleague asr-002244 02:14:18.840 --> 02:14:21.340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I just would like to express asr-002245 02:14:21.340 --> 02:14:21.960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na asr-002246 02:14:21.960 --> 02:14:26.920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama po ba asr-002247 02:14:26.920 --> 02:14:29.420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that you cannot suspend an expenditure asr-002248 02:14:29.420 --> 02:14:31.420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: under Section 38 asr-002249 02:14:31.420 --> 02:14:32.640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: when there is no SARO asr-002250 02:14:32.640 --> 02:14:34.100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or allotment yet asr-002251 02:14:34.100 --> 02:14:36.300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So I would just like to clear that up asr-002252 02:14:36.300 --> 02:14:39.560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Minabalikan ko lang po yung pinag-usapan kanina asr-002253 02:14:40.140 --> 02:14:48.520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung sa Section 38 po asr-002254 02:14:48.520 --> 02:14:51.100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung suspension of expenditure of appropriations asr-002255 02:14:51.100 --> 02:14:53.260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: except as otherwise provided asr-002256 02:14:53.260 --> 02:14:54.960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: in the General Appropriations Act asr-002257 02:14:54.960 --> 02:14:57.440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and whenever in his judgment asr-002258 02:14:57.440 --> 02:14:59.700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the public interest so requires asr-002259 02:14:59.700 --> 02:15:00.040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: the President asr-002265 02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:17.360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Upon notice to the head of the office concerned, it is authorized to suspend or otherwise stop further expenditure of funds allotted for the agency or any other expenditure authorized in the GAA except for personal services, appropriations used for permanent officials and employees. asr-002266 02:15:20.060 --> 02:15:21.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So kinaklarify ko lang po. asr-002267 02:15:25.800 --> 02:15:27.860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Please suspend my time. asr-002268 02:15:30.000 --> 02:15:32.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pakitigilan po. asr-002269 02:15:33.560 --> 02:15:33.940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you. asr-002270 02:15:40.000 --> 02:15:41.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002271 02:15:42.860 --> 02:15:49.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We can suspend appropriations without initial allotment. asr-002272 02:15:52.820 --> 02:15:54.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bawal po sa Arawlio. asr-002273 02:15:54.840 --> 02:15:55.660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Very clear po yun. asr-002274 02:15:58.200 --> 02:15:59.700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: You cannot suspend. asr-002275 02:15:59.880 --> 02:15:59.980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano? asr-002276 02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:10.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang tinatanong ko po, kinaklarify ko, you cannot suspend an expenditure under Section 38 when there is no SARO or allotment yet. asr-002277 02:16:12.600 --> 02:16:13.100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes or no? asr-002278 02:16:22.800 --> 02:16:23.880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Time please. asr-002279 02:16:25.880 --> 02:16:26.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-002280 02:16:26.940 --> 02:16:27.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-002281 02:16:27.380 --> 02:16:29.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-002282 02:16:30.000 --> 02:16:46.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The particular provision or the particular paragraph that the Honorable Nazal is referring to, according to the DBM, is not part of the actual decision of the Supreme Court. asr-002283 02:16:46.640 --> 02:16:47.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's part of a separate opinion. asr-002284 02:16:49.600 --> 02:16:59.820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nandun po sa Section 38 nung EO 292 Administrative Code of 1987, Book 6, Chapter 5. asr-002285 02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:01.160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Section 38. asr-002286 02:17:01.780 --> 02:17:04.260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Suspension of expenditure of appropriations. asr-002287 02:17:04.400 --> 02:17:05.260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It's very specific. asr-002288 02:17:06.900 --> 02:17:15.200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang sinasabi po doon, you cannot suspend an expenditure without allotment. asr-002289 02:17:17.500 --> 02:17:19.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So I just want us to agree. asr-002290 02:17:26.880 --> 02:17:28.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: My time please. asr-002296 02:18:28.500 --> 02:18:34.500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi kung sinasabi niyo po na hindi na? asr-002297 02:18:38.500 --> 02:19:10.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, if I am allowed? Oh, sorry. Madam Speaker, if I will be allowed to read the particular paragraph as relevant to the question of the Honorable Nazal. In contrast, the respondents emphasized that NBC No. 541 adopted a spending, not saving, policy as a last-ditch effort of the executive to push agencies into actually spending their appropriations. asr-002298 02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:27.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That such policy did not amount to an impoundment scheme because impoundment referred to the decision of the executive to refuse to spend funds for political or ideological reasons. asr-002299 02:19:27.560 --> 02:19:29.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And that the withdrawal of… asr-002300 02:19:29.740 --> 02:19:41.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The withdrawal of allotments under NBC No. 541 was made pursuant to Section 38, Chapter 5, Book 6 of the Administrative Code, asr-002301 02:19:42.340 --> 02:19:53.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by which the President was granted the authority to suspend or otherwise stop further expenditure of funds allotted to any agency. asr-002302 02:19:53.260 --> 02:19:59.300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Twice, Madam Chair and Distinguished Colleague, twice you mentioned allotment. asr-002303 02:19:59.740 --> 02:20:01.000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Allotted, allotment. asr-002304 02:20:01.540 --> 02:20:08.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ang tinatanong ko lang po is, ang pwede lang po ba i-suspend ay yung allotted? asr-002305 02:20:13.060 --> 02:20:13.980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes or no? asr-002306 02:20:16.220 --> 02:20:20.960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nakalagay po yung sinabi niyo doon sa NBC, allotment, allotted. asr-002307 02:20:22.240 --> 02:20:24.820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, pag hindi allotted, pwede ba i-suspend? asr-002308 02:20:27.860 --> 02:20:28.680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes or no? asr-002309 02:20:29.740 --> 02:20:42.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, as for the DBM, we can suspend for both locations and allotment. asr-002310 02:20:42.160 --> 02:20:47.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Were there already suspended na hindi allotted? asr-002311 02:20:49.780 --> 02:20:52.380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron na po tayo mga sinuspend na hindi allotted? asr-002312 02:20:52.380 --> 02:20:54.460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes. asr-002313 02:20:59.740 --> 02:21:05.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM has not invoked Section 38 as of today. asr-002314 02:21:05.180 --> 02:21:06.340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sorry, I cannot hear you. asr-002315 02:21:06.340 --> 02:21:06.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. asr-002316 02:21:07.200 --> 02:21:10.020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you please speak again, again? Sorry. asr-002317 02:21:10.900 --> 02:21:14.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM has not invoked Section 38 as of today. asr-002318 02:21:14.600 --> 02:21:18.200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: They have not invoked Section 38. So, wala pa tayo na sususpend na hindi allotted? asr-002319 02:21:20.120 --> 02:21:23.420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Wala pa tayo na sususpend na allotted either? asr-002320 02:21:23.420 --> 02:21:28.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM has not suspended either the allotment or the appropriation. asr-002322 02:21:33.940 --> 02:21:34.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As of today. asr-002323 02:21:34.500 --> 02:21:37.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But are you saying that you can suspend even if it's not allotted? asr-002324 02:21:44.540 --> 02:21:46.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002325 02:21:46.420 --> 02:21:47.320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That is what you're saying. asr-002326 02:21:47.800 --> 02:21:51.600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: You have to really take a look at that kasi bawal po yun. asr-002327 02:21:52.260 --> 02:21:54.680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Expressly stated yan doon sa administrative code. asr-002328 02:21:57.180 --> 02:21:59.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, but the DBM assures that it has not... asr-002329 02:21:59.740 --> 02:22:03.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It has not done any suspension with regards to both appropriations and allotment. asr-002330 02:22:03.740 --> 02:22:12.000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I respectfully disagree po na pwede po tayo mag-suspend ng hindi allotted. asr-002331 02:22:13.300 --> 02:22:17.360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The Supreme Court in Araulio v. Aquino was categorical. asr-002332 02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:23.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The President cannot exercise the power to suspend or stop expenditure under Section 38 asr-002333 02:22:23.900 --> 02:22:29.160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: towards appropriations as funds for it have yet to be released and allotted. asr-002334 02:22:29.740 --> 02:22:36.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And that is very specifically stated doon po sa Araulio v. Aquino. asr-002335 02:22:36.400 --> 02:22:39.560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is what you're saying. asr-002336 02:22:40.160 --> 02:22:40.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-002337 02:22:41.820 --> 02:22:44.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to reiterate, Madam Speaker, asr-002338 02:22:44.780 --> 02:22:49.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that particular provision that the Honorable Nazales is referring to asr-002339 02:22:49.860 --> 02:22:51.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is a part of a separate opinion. asr-002340 02:22:51.960 --> 02:22:53.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's not part of the decision of the Supreme Court. asr-002341 02:22:53.400 --> 02:22:55.160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: No, that is part of the Supreme Court decision. asr-002342 02:22:55.340 --> 02:22:56.280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It is very specific. asr-002343 02:22:57.860 --> 02:22:59.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It is stated exactly... asr-002344 02:22:59.740 --> 02:23:00.860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Exactly in the decision. asr-002345 02:23:03.600 --> 02:23:04.360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kahit... asr-002346 02:23:04.360 --> 02:23:06.640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And even if you go back to Section 38, asr-002347 02:23:08.580 --> 02:23:12.020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: basahin niyo po yung Section 38 nung National... asr-002348 02:23:12.020 --> 02:23:15.200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nung Book 6, nung Administrative Code of 1987. asr-002349 02:23:16.400 --> 02:23:16.960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nandun po. asr-002350 02:23:18.060 --> 02:23:18.600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi pwede. asr-002351 02:23:21.960 --> 02:23:26.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, as for the filists of the DBM, asr-002352 02:23:28.120 --> 02:23:29.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's a part of a separate opinion. asr-002353 02:23:29.740 --> 02:23:32.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a part of a separate opinion by Justice Biron. asr-002354 02:23:33.140 --> 02:23:37.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So it's not part of the decision of the Supreme Court. asr-002355 02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:39.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for DBM files. asr-002356 02:23:44.100 --> 02:23:44.820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: You have... asr-002357 02:23:44.820 --> 02:23:45.920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tignan na lang po natin. asr-002358 02:23:46.020 --> 02:23:48.780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I will also show you the specific provision cited asr-002359 02:23:48.780 --> 02:23:50.920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: based on the decision. asr-002360 02:23:53.700 --> 02:23:57.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Anyway, my next question is... asr-002361 02:23:57.740 --> 02:23:59.460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nagkakaintindihan po tayo asr-002365 02:23:59.740 --> 02:24:02.060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That suspension is temporary. asr-002366 02:24:05.300 --> 02:24:07.640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So a merely suspended project asr-002367 02:24:07.640 --> 02:24:09.240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: cannot be treated as savings. asr-002368 02:24:09.880 --> 02:24:10.380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama po ba? asr-002369 02:24:10.740 --> 02:24:11.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002370 02:24:13.040 --> 02:24:15.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It can qualify as savings only asr-002371 02:24:15.400 --> 02:24:17.260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: when the applicable GAA requirements asr-002372 02:24:17.260 --> 02:24:18.860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: are independently satisfied. asr-002373 02:24:19.760 --> 02:24:21.300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For example, completion, asr-002374 02:24:22.020 --> 02:24:23.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: final discontinuance or abandonment, asr-002375 02:24:24.820 --> 02:24:27.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or balances resulting from efficiency measures. asr-002376 02:24:27.480 --> 02:24:27.680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Correct? asr-002377 02:24:29.740 --> 02:24:36.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Final discontinuance, abandonment. asr-002378 02:24:36.420 --> 02:24:37.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002379 02:24:38.580 --> 02:24:40.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So hindi pwedeng suspended lang ang project asr-002380 02:24:40.720 --> 02:24:42.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pero savings na agad ang pera. asr-002381 02:24:43.600 --> 02:24:44.000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama po. asr-002382 02:24:46.340 --> 02:24:50.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for DBM, those are two different matters, Madam Speaker. asr-002383 02:24:51.120 --> 02:24:53.040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: No, no. That is not a different matter. asr-002384 02:24:53.480 --> 02:24:54.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I am just asking asr-002385 02:24:54.480 --> 02:24:55.860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: if asr-002386 02:24:55.860 --> 02:24:58.800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: we suspend some... asr-002387 02:24:58.800 --> 02:24:59.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pagka meron tayong... asr-002388 02:24:59.740 --> 02:25:00.760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sinuspend na project, asr-002389 02:25:01.320 --> 02:25:03.580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: hindi ito automatically treated as savings. asr-002390 02:25:03.900 --> 02:25:04.060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama? asr-002391 02:25:04.060 --> 02:25:10.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002392 02:25:10.780 --> 02:25:12.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's not automatic that asr-002393 02:25:12.100 --> 02:25:14.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if we suspend, it's automatically saved. asr-002394 02:25:14.820 --> 02:25:16.120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, Madam Chair, asr-002395 02:25:16.320 --> 02:25:17.500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Distinguished Colleague, asr-002396 02:25:18.020 --> 02:25:20.060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ngayon po i-connect naman natin ito sa NBC603. asr-002397 02:25:22.200 --> 02:25:24.280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sa mga 2026 expenditures asr-002398 02:25:24.280 --> 02:25:26.560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na pinatigil or suspended asr-002399 02:25:26.560 --> 02:25:29.380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: or subsequently treated as savings asr-002400 02:25:29.380 --> 02:25:30.940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: under NBC603, asr-002401 02:25:31.880 --> 02:25:32.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: did DBM asr-002402 02:25:32.740 --> 02:25:34.620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: require proof asr-002403 02:25:34.620 --> 02:25:37.360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that each amount independently asr-002404 02:25:37.360 --> 02:25:39.600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: satisfied the legal definition of savings, asr-002405 02:25:39.940 --> 02:25:41.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: not merely that it remained asr-002406 02:25:41.900 --> 02:25:42.800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: unobligated? asr-002408 02:25:59.380 --> 02:26:00.580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May time, please. asr-002409 02:26:05.040 --> 02:26:06.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002410 02:26:06.900 --> 02:26:08.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The agency head asr-002411 02:26:08.200 --> 02:26:10.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is required to submit asr-002412 02:26:10.780 --> 02:26:12.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a certification that asr-002413 02:26:12.640 --> 02:26:15.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the following asr-002414 02:26:15.360 --> 02:26:17.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: requirements are asr-002415 02:26:17.960 --> 02:26:19.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: complied with. asr-002416 02:26:19.740 --> 02:26:20.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, completion, asr-002417 02:26:21.480 --> 02:26:22.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: final discontinuance, asr-002418 02:26:23.020 --> 02:26:24.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or abandonment of a program activity asr-002419 02:26:24.800 --> 02:26:27.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or project for which the appropriation asr-002420 02:26:27.000 --> 02:26:27.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is authorized, asr-002421 02:26:27.800 --> 02:26:32.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or the implementation of measures asr-002422 02:26:32.760 --> 02:26:34.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: resulting in improved systems asr-002423 02:26:34.820 --> 02:26:35.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and efficiencies. asr-002424 02:26:36.220 --> 02:26:37.920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, we have a project level, asr-002425 02:26:38.040 --> 02:26:40.300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, certification asr-002426 02:26:40.300 --> 02:26:41.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: showing the specific asr-002427 02:26:41.900 --> 02:26:43.680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: legal ground. asr-002428 02:26:44.360 --> 02:26:45.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002429 02:26:46.200 --> 02:26:47.500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Per project po yan? asr-002430 02:26:48.120 --> 02:26:49.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Per project, yes. asr-002431 02:26:49.200 --> 02:26:50.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And can we get a copy? asr-002432 02:26:52.380 --> 02:26:53.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: A copy. asr-002433 02:26:53.040 --> 02:26:53.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. asr-002435 02:26:57.800 --> 02:27:02.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the DBM commits asr-002436 02:27:02.700 --> 02:27:03.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to submitting. asr-002437 02:27:04.140 --> 02:27:06.180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Distinguished Colleague, Madam Chair. asr-002438 02:27:06.960 --> 02:27:08.420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: My next question is, asr-002439 02:27:09.080 --> 02:27:09.660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Madam Chair, asr-002440 02:27:10.180 --> 02:27:11.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nung unang hearing asr-002441 02:27:11.080 --> 02:27:13.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: with the DBM, dun sa ating asr-002442 02:27:13.720 --> 02:27:16.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: DBM briefing, asr-002443 02:27:18.840 --> 02:27:19.620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nakala natin asr-002444 02:27:19.620 --> 02:27:22.660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nasa DPWH pa ang problema. asr-002445 02:27:23.920 --> 02:27:24.860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ngayon, sinabi ng asr-002446 02:27:24.860 --> 02:27:26.800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: DPWH nung kanilang briefing asr-002447 02:27:26.800 --> 02:27:27.660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na binalik na siya, asr-002448 02:27:27.660 --> 02:27:28.820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: binalik na sa DBM asr-002449 02:27:28.820 --> 02:27:30.580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung mga SARO asr-002450 02:27:30.580 --> 02:27:32.560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: nung September 2025. asr-002451 02:27:33.720 --> 02:27:35.760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kahit March 2025 pa lamang asr-002452 02:27:35.760 --> 02:27:37.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: na-issue ang mga SARO. asr-002453 02:27:38.540 --> 02:27:39.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meaning, these projects asr-002454 02:27:39.740 --> 02:27:41.040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: had already passed asr-002455 02:27:41.040 --> 02:27:42.660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: NBC 595. asr-002456 02:27:44.380 --> 02:27:45.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can DBM confirm this? asr-002457 02:27:49.360 --> 02:27:50.520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And natanggap nyo ba asr-002458 02:27:50.520 --> 02:27:52.160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung mga ibinalik na SARO? asr-002459 02:27:57.660 --> 02:28:02.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to clarify, Madam Speaker, asr-002460 02:28:02.420 --> 02:28:03.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: September 2025? asr-002461 02:28:03.940 --> 02:28:05.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: September 2026? asr-002462 02:28:05.460 --> 02:28:07.200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes, because during the hearing asr-002463 02:28:07.200 --> 02:28:08.640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: with DPWH, asr-002464 02:28:08.640 --> 02:28:10.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang sabi po ng DPWH, asr-002465 02:28:10.080 --> 02:28:11.500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: binalik nila asr-002466 02:28:11.500 --> 02:28:13.500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: yung mga SARO sa inyo. asr-002467 02:28:13.500 --> 02:28:15.620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And meron po silang report asr-002468 02:28:15.620 --> 02:28:17.620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng negative SARO. asr-002469 02:28:18.620 --> 02:28:20.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, asr-002470 02:28:20.920 --> 02:28:22.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-002471 02:28:22.920 --> 02:28:24.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: no certifications have been asr-002472 02:28:24.920 --> 02:28:26.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: issued. asr-002473 02:28:26.920 --> 02:28:47.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So are you telling me Madam Chair, Distinguished Colleague na nagsisinungaling po yung DPWH dun sa sinabi nilang report na meron po silang report ng mga SARO na binalik sa inyo na meron silang negative SARO na galing sa inyo? asr-002474 02:28:56.920 --> 02:29:02.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May time please. asr-002475 02:29:26.920 --> 02:29:44.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, at least on the part of the DBM, it's not able to issue a negative SARO yet given that no purpose has been established at the time. asr-002476 02:29:44.140 --> 02:29:56.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So given that the supposed certifications were made in September 2025 and then the circular was issued, asr-002477 02:29:56.920 --> 02:29:59.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it was issued in April 2026. asr-002478 02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:08.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, there's a disconnect in terms of the periods, Madam Speaker. asr-002479 02:30:09.520 --> 02:30:14.000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano pong sabi niyo? Can you please repeat? You said September 2026? asr-002480 02:30:14.640 --> 02:30:15.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: September 2025. asr-002481 02:30:17.120 --> 02:30:19.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That was the report of the DPWH. asr-002482 02:30:19.740 --> 02:30:28.660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: They reported that in September of 2025, minalik na po nila ang mga saraw. asr-002483 02:30:30.000 --> 02:30:32.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And this was an order made by the President. asr-002484 02:30:35.180 --> 02:30:40.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Well, with indulgence of our good colleague, Honorable Nazal, asr-002485 02:30:41.280 --> 02:30:45.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DBM is going to submit the list of the certifications anyway. asr-002486 02:30:45.500 --> 02:30:50.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, maybe that way, it would verify whichever... asr-002487 02:30:51.940 --> 02:30:56.000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Anyway, are there saraw that were returned in 2025 by DPWH? asr-002488 02:31:00.000 --> 02:31:08.780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi, I may be mistaken by the date, pero are there any saraw? asr-002489 02:31:08.780 --> 02:31:08.920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes. asr-002490 02:31:13.120 --> 02:31:22.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For 2025, it's, according to the DBM, it's at least, as of August of 2026, this would be the figure, asr-002491 02:31:22.280 --> 02:31:29.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 20 billion, 59 million, 488 million, 612 thousand. asr-002492 02:31:30.000 --> 02:31:38.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ang sinasabi po ninyo, walang binalik na saraw ng 2025 ang DPWH. asr-002493 02:31:51.080 --> 02:31:54.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Wala pa daw po, Madam Speaker. As for the DBM? asr-002494 02:31:54.900 --> 02:31:54.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM? asr-002495 02:32:00.000 --> 02:32:09.120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, there is a disconnect between what you're saying and what was reported during the briefing of DPWH. asr-002496 02:32:14.340 --> 02:32:23.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. The DBM will supplement this information by submitting the proper documents, Madam Speaker. asr-002497 02:32:24.520 --> 02:32:29.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But in 2026, meron pong mga saraw na binalik? asr-002498 02:32:29.080 --> 02:32:42.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, wala. asr-002499 02:32:45.560 --> 02:32:46.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: None. asr-002500 02:32:47.260 --> 02:32:51.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: None specifically for DPWH, as of, for the 2026 projects. asr-002501 02:32:52.400 --> 02:32:53.260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For other departments? asr-002502 02:32:53.260 --> 02:32:53.460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For other departments. asr-002503 02:32:59.080 --> 02:33:01.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For the other departments, Madam Speaker, yes. asr-002504 02:33:02.220 --> 02:33:06.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There have been, there should have been a return. asr-002505 02:33:08.640 --> 02:33:09.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. asr-002506 02:33:11.280 --> 02:33:13.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, these are various agencies. asr-002507 02:33:13.840 --> 02:33:16.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, I'll just start alphabetically. asr-002508 02:33:16.920 --> 02:33:22.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The Department of Agriculture, 742 billion. asr-002509 02:33:22.760 --> 02:33:23.220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay lang. asr-002510 02:33:23.900 --> 02:33:26.180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: How about the continuing for 2025? asr-002511 02:33:26.180 --> 02:33:27.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Million. I'm so sorry. Million. asr-002512 02:33:28.060 --> 02:33:28.960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung continuing po. asr-002513 02:33:29.080 --> 02:33:30.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: For 2025. asr-002514 02:33:32.080 --> 02:33:33.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And DPWH. asr-002515 02:33:43.160 --> 02:33:43.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: My time, please. asr-002516 02:33:45.400 --> 02:33:50.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for the continuing for 2025, this 2025. asr-002517 02:33:54.460 --> 02:33:54.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-002518 02:33:54.900 --> 02:33:57.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's 20 billion, asr-002522 02:33:57.400 --> 02:34:00.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 59,488,612. asr-002523 02:34:00.840 --> 02:34:03.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Which was offered in 2026. asr-002524 02:34:06.420 --> 02:34:08.020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Suspended? asr-002525 02:34:09.020 --> 02:34:11.220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What was the basis? asr-002526 02:34:12.020 --> 02:34:14.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It... asr-002527 02:34:14.940 --> 02:34:19.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: final discontinuance. asr-002529 02:34:24.760 --> 02:34:27.520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ... asr-002530 02:34:28.620 --> 02:34:39.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the basis for, it goes to savings, asr-002531 02:34:39.600 --> 02:34:46.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's 20,059,488,612. asr-002532 02:34:47.100 --> 02:34:48.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a mix of all. asr-002533 02:34:48.660 --> 02:34:50.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a combination of all of the different grounds, asr-002534 02:34:50.900 --> 02:34:53.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so completion, final discontinuance, abandonment. asr-002535 02:34:56.020 --> 02:34:56.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Discontinuance. asr-002536 02:34:56.880 --> 02:34:58.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Improved systems and efficiency. asr-002537 02:34:58.620 --> 02:35:02.600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May we have per project? asr-002538 02:35:06.060 --> 02:35:08.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, for all projects, Madam Speaker. asr-002539 02:35:08.480 --> 02:35:09.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the DBM will comply. asr-002540 02:35:10.240 --> 02:35:13.260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, what was the basis for declaring it a savings? asr-002541 02:35:15.980 --> 02:35:18.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's the agency certification. asr-002542 02:35:19.260 --> 02:35:20.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, the agency head has a certification. asr-002543 02:35:20.940 --> 02:35:26.560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: An agency certification indicating that all these projects were discontinued or abandoned? asr-002544 02:35:28.620 --> 02:35:35.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, they should have if they were discontinued or they got reverted to savings. asr-002545 02:35:35.900 --> 02:35:36.280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And you have that document? asr-002546 02:35:40.460 --> 02:35:44.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a voluminous set of documents. asr-002547 02:35:44.520 --> 02:35:46.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, it's a project by project. asr-002548 02:35:46.480 --> 02:35:48.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a line by line of all projects. asr-002549 02:35:48.520 --> 02:35:53.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But the DBM has it on file and will send either a hard copy or a soft copy. asr-002550 02:35:54.260 --> 02:35:54.920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Did you verify? asr-002551 02:35:54.920 --> 02:35:56.300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Did you verify? asr-002552 02:35:56.300 --> 02:35:57.980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Did you verify that the projects were? asr-002553 02:35:57.980 --> 02:36:07.160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Actually, qualified under the NBC 603 and the rules for savings? asr-002554 02:36:12.140 --> 02:36:20.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It would be the certification of the head of the agency, asr-002555 02:36:21.140 --> 02:36:27.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which would assure that it would fall in any of these categories, Madam Speaker. asr-002556 02:36:27.100 --> 02:36:27.140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay. asr-002557 02:36:27.980 --> 02:36:30.700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung i-certify po nila, hindi nyo na kailangan i-validate? asr-002558 02:36:34.600 --> 02:36:35.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, yes. asr-002559 02:36:35.820 --> 02:36:38.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, it would fall. asr-002560 02:36:38.260 --> 02:36:42.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The responsibility of the certification would fall with the agency head. asr-002561 02:36:44.840 --> 02:36:48.180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pero shouldn't we at least validate? asr-002562 02:36:50.180 --> 02:36:56.120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi, paano natin malalaman kung talagang nag-fall under the provision for savings? asr-002563 02:36:57.980 --> 02:37:04.300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how do we now make sure na hindi ito manufactured savings? asr-002564 02:37:04.300 --> 02:37:27.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, at least on the part of the DBM, the current status quo is that the DBM just verifies with the status of obligation in the financial reports for the particular projects. asr-002565 02:37:27.660 --> 02:37:28.900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Let me give you an example. asr-002566 02:37:29.960 --> 02:37:32.420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron po tayo mga sinuspend na project. asr-002567 02:37:33.080 --> 02:37:35.540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Katulad ng multi-purpose building, halimbawa. asr-002568 02:37:35.760 --> 02:37:39.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yun ang nakalagay dun sa project description or line item. asr-002569 02:37:40.020 --> 02:37:45.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos, kasama siya dun sa sinuspend natin and then eventually ginawa nating saving. asr-002570 02:37:46.800 --> 02:37:53.880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ano ang dahilan para isama natin yung para maging discontinued or asr-002571 02:37:53.880 --> 02:37:54.280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: um, asr-002572 02:37:54.280 --> 02:38:01.340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: para ma-discontinue yung katulad nung project na yun habang na-bid out yun. asr-002573 02:38:02.580 --> 02:38:03.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos, asr-002574 02:38:05.940 --> 02:38:07.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: short of award, na-bid out siya. asr-002575 02:38:14.700 --> 02:38:19.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With that particular situation, Madam Speaker, asr-002576 02:38:20.100 --> 02:38:24.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, the DBM has not, again, has not invoked the suspension. asr-002577 02:38:24.280 --> 02:38:26.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Under Section 38. asr-002578 02:38:27.420 --> 02:38:30.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But, at least with that, probably what happened was that asr-002579 02:38:30.760 --> 02:38:34.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the head of the agency gave the certification that it's, asr-002580 02:38:35.220 --> 02:38:38.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it falls within these conditions. asr-002581 02:38:39.260 --> 02:38:45.700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But, but, but isn't it also the obligation of DBM to make sure that asr-002582 02:38:45.700 --> 02:38:52.200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ito pong rules natin for declaring savings is being followed? asr-002583 02:38:54.280 --> 02:39:00.660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: If hindi po natin i-validate, then we can just manufacture savings. asr-002584 02:39:01.540 --> 02:39:08.680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And it will be very convenient para sa inyo, nagagamitin niyo yung pondo. asr-002585 02:39:10.860 --> 02:39:13.000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kaya hindi na lang natin iti-check. asr-002586 02:39:18.460 --> 02:39:22.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For the information of the Honorable Nazal, Madam Speaker, asr-002587 02:39:22.860 --> 02:39:28.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the basis for that, for relying on the certification of the heads of agencies, asr-002588 02:39:28.620 --> 02:39:33.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particularly with the discontinuance and all of that, asr-002589 02:39:33.620 --> 02:39:42.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is that they have that mandate under EO 219 as of now. asr-002590 02:39:43.720 --> 02:39:49.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that's the reason why we're relying on the certifications by the heads of agencies. asr-002591 02:39:50.200 --> 02:39:52.840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But, but I thought, as you mentioned, asr-002592 02:39:52.860 --> 02:39:58.180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: earlier, hindi pa natin ini-invoke yung Section 38. asr-002593 02:39:59.620 --> 02:40:05.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, no. This is Section 51, Chapter 9, Subtitle B, Title 1. asr-002594 02:40:05.160 --> 02:40:05.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, it's a different section. asr-002595 02:40:07.060 --> 02:40:10.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is particularly for the certification of, asr-002596 02:40:10.720 --> 02:40:15.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by the heads of agencies regarding the final discontinuance continuation asr-002597 02:40:15.440 --> 02:40:17.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that would revert it back to savings. asr-002598 02:40:17.100 --> 02:40:21.200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, you're saying, Madam Chair, Madam Sponsor, asr-002599 02:40:21.840 --> 02:40:22.100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: that DPWA, asr-002600 02:40:22.860 --> 02:40:29.020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: with the head of the agency, asr-002601 02:40:29.400 --> 02:40:31.020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: can just identify projects, asr-002602 02:40:32.280 --> 02:40:34.760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: sabihin na ito ay discontinued, asr-002603 02:40:34.940 --> 02:40:36.940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: at hindi na natin malalaman kung totoo ito. asr-002604 02:40:38.180 --> 02:40:39.700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And we have no way of knowing. asr-002605 02:40:42.420 --> 02:40:45.360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos, ililipat nyo yung pondo sa ibang proyekto, asr-002606 02:40:47.040 --> 02:40:49.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tapos i-augment natin kasi na-declare na natin na saving. asr-002607 02:40:51.540 --> 02:40:52.580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Aren't we already, asr-002608 02:40:52.860 --> 02:40:55.220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: bastardizing the GAA? asr-002609 02:40:57.660 --> 02:41:01.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, based on, well, existing, well, asr-002610 02:41:01.800 --> 02:41:03.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: existing guidelines, asr-002611 02:41:04.540 --> 02:41:09.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and also as prescribed by EO 292, Section 51, asr-002612 02:41:10.520 --> 02:41:13.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it would be the head of agency. asr-002613 02:41:14.700 --> 02:41:17.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Maybe partly the rationale for that is because asr-002614 02:41:17.040 --> 02:41:19.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they would know whether or not, asr-002615 02:41:19.940 --> 02:41:21.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they had the technical expertise, asr-002616 02:41:21.480 --> 02:41:22.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and they have all of the technical knowledge. asr-002617 02:41:22.360 --> 02:41:22.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But they should, asr-002618 02:41:22.720 --> 02:41:22.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they should talk to the director, right? asr-002619 02:41:22.840 --> 02:41:26.140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But we should have a system of checks and balances. asr-002620 02:41:29.480 --> 02:41:34.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Because if we will say that it is not our obligation to double check, asr-002621 02:41:35.020 --> 02:41:37.640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: then any agency can do this arbitrarily. asr-002622 02:41:43.460 --> 02:41:48.040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Then whatever is passed in the GAA na pinasapu natin ng Kongreso, asr-002623 02:41:48.700 --> 02:41:49.940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pwedeng palit-palitan na lang. asr-002624 02:41:49.940 --> 02:41:52.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002625 02:41:52.900 --> 02:41:58.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We recognize the, and we also, we're one with the concerns of the Honorable Nazal. asr-002626 02:41:59.300 --> 02:42:01.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Particularly with EO 292, asr-002627 02:42:03.000 --> 02:42:06.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, the DBM submits to the wisdom of Congress. asr-002628 02:42:06.700 --> 02:42:12.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So we can amend this actually so that we put safeguards in place. asr-002629 02:42:12.640 --> 02:42:19.620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What safeguards can DBM introduce para po masigurado na hindi po mangyayari? asr-002631 02:42:42.420 --> 02:42:46.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, at least on the part of the DBM, asr-002632 02:42:47.400 --> 02:42:49.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DBM assures this, asr-002633 02:42:49.940 --> 02:42:58.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: this chamber that it has been stringently abiding by all of the laws, asr-002634 02:42:58.760 --> 02:43:03.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: all of those prescribed by Supreme Court decisions and all existing laws. asr-002635 02:43:03.400 --> 02:43:07.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But particularly with this, the treatment of savings, asr-002636 02:43:08.520 --> 02:43:13.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the treatment of certifications for particular projects, asr-002637 02:43:14.720 --> 02:43:19.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DBM submits to further amendments to the law. asr-002638 02:43:19.940 --> 02:43:22.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As is relevant. asr-002639 02:43:22.380 --> 02:43:28.940 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Can you please submit a list kung ano po yung mga project na sinertify, asr-002640 02:43:29.900 --> 02:43:33.300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tapos diniklare natin as savings, saan po napunta? asr-002641 02:43:33.880 --> 02:43:37.540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Saan, ano po yung mga augmentation na pinuntahan asr-002642 02:43:37.540 --> 02:43:40.560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng mga pondo na diniklare natin as savings? asr-002643 02:43:41.560 --> 02:43:43.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we will submit, Madam Speaker. asr-002644 02:43:44.520 --> 02:43:44.840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: When? asr-002645 02:43:49.940 --> 02:44:00.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM commits Thursday, Madam Speaker. asr-002646 02:44:01.120 --> 02:44:02.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kasi Wednesday na daw po. asr-002647 02:44:03.900 --> 02:44:04.620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thursday? asr-002648 02:44:05.060 --> 02:44:05.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thursday. asr-002649 02:44:06.200 --> 02:44:08.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So tomorrow, Madam Speaker. asr-002650 02:44:08.720 --> 02:44:09.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that. asr-002651 02:44:10.740 --> 02:44:12.520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sek ha, we will expect that. asr-002652 02:44:14.520 --> 02:44:18.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And may I go to my next question, Madam Chair? asr-002653 02:44:18.480 --> 02:44:21.700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: After we have everything we have just discussed asr-002654 02:44:21.700 --> 02:44:24.500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: about return sa ROS savings and augmentation, asr-002655 02:44:26.180 --> 02:44:29.800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang tanong ko po, bakit wala po sa 2027 NEP asr-002656 02:44:29.800 --> 02:44:32.200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang chapter on overall savings? asr-002657 02:44:33.020 --> 02:44:35.100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dati po, hanggang 2023, asr-002658 02:44:36.200 --> 02:44:39.260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: for many years, the NEP showed overall savings, asr-002659 02:44:39.740 --> 02:44:42.600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: how much savings were generated and where they went. asr-002660 02:44:43.060 --> 02:44:45.720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: It reappeared in 2022 and 2023, asr-002661 02:44:46.220 --> 02:44:47.500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and then disappeared again. asr-002662 02:44:47.960 --> 02:44:48.440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Why? asr-002663 02:44:48.480 --> 02:44:52.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As per the DBM, Madam Speaker, asr-002664 02:44:52.820 --> 02:44:57.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that's not allowed, the pooling of overall savings. asr-002665 02:44:58.760 --> 02:44:59.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Existing laws... asr-002666 02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:05.280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But we should have all the data available to us. asr-002667 02:45:05.280 --> 02:45:13.680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi po pwedeng dapat, meron, dati nire-reflect natin sa report, tapos kung kailan lang natin gusto i-reflect, doon lang natin i-re-reflect. asr-002668 02:45:24.260 --> 02:45:28.160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ang sinasabi ko po, dapat consistent po tayo. asr-002669 02:45:28.160 --> 02:45:37.060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So this is information that is vital to us making a decision for Congress to be able to pass the GAA. asr-002670 02:45:38.840 --> 02:45:42.380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ano yung mga savings, yung overall savings ng lahat ng departments? asr-002671 02:45:42.860 --> 02:45:45.560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dati nire-reflect po natin yung to and from. asr-002672 02:45:47.160 --> 02:45:47.880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: We need that. asr-002673 02:45:50.700 --> 02:45:51.640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pwede po bang ibalik? asr-002674 02:45:58.160 --> 02:46:13.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, particularly with overall savings, the establishment of overall savings, apparently that is under the Bayanihan Law, which allowed the pooling of overall savings. asr-002675 02:46:13.700 --> 02:46:16.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But in general, that's not allowed. asr-002676 02:46:18.160 --> 02:46:21.480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang sinasabi, ang hinihingi lang naman po natin, yung dating nire-report natin. asr-002677 02:46:21.480 --> 02:46:24.260 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to remind Representative Nazal that his time has already expired. asr-002678 02:46:24.260 --> 02:46:25.540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yes, Madam Chair. asr-002679 02:46:25.940 --> 02:46:28.140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang hinihingi lang, kailangan lang po natin i-clarify. asr-002680 02:46:28.160 --> 02:46:30.120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi hindi pa nila nasasagot yung tanong. asr-002681 02:46:30.820 --> 02:46:34.820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, ang hinihingi lang po natin is yung report. asr-002682 02:46:34.940 --> 02:46:36.040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dati naman nire-report. asr-002683 02:46:36.680 --> 02:46:37.920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pwede po ba natin ibalik? asr-002684 02:46:38.220 --> 02:46:42.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi because this is vital to us making a decision. asr-002685 02:46:43.320 --> 02:46:45.160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bakit natin tinatago ngayon? asr-002686 02:46:46.240 --> 02:46:48.180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pwede naman yan i-reflect sa NEP? asr-002687 02:46:53.000 --> 02:46:57.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM, Madam Speaker, will submit. asr-002688 02:46:57.500 --> 02:46:58.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's committed to submission. asr-002689 02:46:58.160 --> 02:46:59.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's committed to submit this report. asr-002690 02:47:00.100 --> 02:47:02.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, it's not part of the NEP. asr-002691 02:47:03.740 --> 02:47:09.860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kaya nga po, baka pwedeng isama na sa NEP every year sa submission ng NEP. asr-002692 02:47:12.100 --> 02:47:14.180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Dati namang meron, binabalik lang natin. asr-002694 02:47:31.360 --> 02:47:33.920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Up to 2023, meron namang po tayo niyan. asr-002695 02:47:42.500 --> 02:47:46.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. asr-002696 02:47:48.540 --> 02:47:58.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM will study, but as of now, the stand is that the DBM can't create a... asr-002697 02:47:58.160 --> 02:47:59.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: chapter on overall savings. asr-002698 02:47:59.660 --> 02:48:01.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we do not have that information? asr-002699 02:48:07.480 --> 02:48:08.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM will study. asr-002700 02:48:09.040 --> 02:48:10.120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Will assess. asr-002701 02:48:10.740 --> 02:48:12.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But there is a report. asr-002702 02:48:13.460 --> 02:48:18.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And the DBM will publish a copy to the Honorable Nazal. asr-002703 02:48:19.140 --> 02:48:23.600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: That is a very simple report which was included up to 2023. asr-002704 02:48:23.600 --> 02:48:27.220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yan yung chapter on overall savings. asr-002705 02:48:28.160 --> 02:48:31.080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, yun lang po ang hinihingi natin na i-restore natin yun. asr-002706 02:48:31.160 --> 02:48:31.780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ibalik natin. asr-002707 02:48:32.740 --> 02:48:34.600 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Will the DBM submit to that? asr-002708 02:48:35.980 --> 02:48:39.780 Rep. Roberto Nazal: This is vital information that should be shared with Congress every time. asr-002709 02:48:47.040 --> 02:48:51.980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi ko maintindihan bakit kailangan natin pag-isipan pa. asr-002710 02:48:51.980 --> 02:48:53.980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Okay. asr-002711 02:48:58.160 --> 02:49:03.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The DBM will study, yes. asr-002712 02:49:04.240 --> 02:49:06.440 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Will study or comply? asr-002713 02:49:07.940 --> 02:49:11.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: No, ah, well... asr-002714 02:49:35.500 --> 02:49:56.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Napakahira po bang i-share yung information? asr-002715 02:49:56.400 --> 02:49:58.120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung ano yung savings? asr-002717 02:49:58.120 --> 02:50:01.620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ng bawat ahensya at saan in-augment yung pondo na ito? asr-002718 02:50:05.500 --> 02:50:07.140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is it that difficult? asr-002719 02:50:07.140 --> 02:50:11.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Just to summarize and to clarify, Madam Speaker. asr-002720 02:50:11.800 --> 02:50:21.960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The reason why there was a chapter on overall savings in the 2023 NEP is because it was prescribed under Bayanihan Law. asr-002721 02:50:22.960 --> 02:50:26.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that's the only reason why it was there as a chapter. asr-002722 02:50:26.440 --> 02:50:26.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. asr-002723 02:50:27.120 --> 02:50:27.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But... asr-002724 02:50:27.920 --> 02:50:30.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That's because it's prescribed by the Bayanihan Law. asr-002725 02:50:30.200 --> 02:50:33.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that could be... asr-002726 02:50:33.340 --> 02:50:40.400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Even before Bayanihan, Madam Sponsor, meron pong reports on overall savings. asr-002727 02:50:40.960 --> 02:50:41.740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Yung to and from. asr-002728 02:50:42.620 --> 02:50:46.320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung saan, saan, saan nang galing, saan pumunta. asr-002729 02:50:47.260 --> 02:50:48.240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron tayong report niyan. asr-002730 02:50:48.500 --> 02:50:50.500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Hindi lang after, hindi lang during Bayanihan. asr-002731 02:50:51.240 --> 02:50:52.980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Bayanihan was 2021, ha? asr-002732 02:50:53.980 --> 02:50:57.900 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair would like to respectfully remind Representative Nazal that his... asr-002733 02:50:57.900 --> 02:51:00.020 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: his time has already expired to interpolate. asr-002734 02:51:03.120 --> 02:51:06.580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, can I just ask for a report on the savings? asr-002735 02:51:06.720 --> 02:51:06.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-002736 02:51:07.500 --> 02:51:08.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002737 02:51:09.400 --> 02:51:10.580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Madam Chair. asr-002738 02:51:10.780 --> 02:51:12.320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Madam Sponsor. asr-002739 02:51:12.320 --> 02:51:14.060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you, Majority Leader. asr-002740 02:51:15.940 --> 02:51:24.740 Floor Leader: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative JC M. Abalos for his interpellation. asr-002741 02:51:25.210 --> 02:51:27.880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative JC Abalos from 4Ps Party-list asr-002742 02:51:27.900 --> 02:51:29.960 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is now recognized for his interpellation. asr-002743 02:51:32.600 --> 02:51:35.660 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, asr-002744 02:51:36.280 --> 02:51:42.960 Rep. JC M. Abalos: sa ahensya ng DBM at sa kanyang mga attached agency sa pangunguna ni Secretary Kim De Leon, asr-002745 02:51:43.120 --> 02:51:45.000 Rep. JC M. Abalos: magandang umaga po. asr-002746 02:51:45.820 --> 02:51:47.800 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Dahil inabot na po tayo ng madaling araw, asr-002747 02:51:47.900 --> 02:51:50.740 Rep. JC M. Abalos: dadiretso na po ako, Madam Speaker, sa aking mga katanungan asr-002748 02:51:50.740 --> 02:51:57.760 Rep. JC M. Abalos: at nakatoon po ito sa budget ng 4P's program for year 2027. asr-002749 02:51:57.900 --> 02:51:59.860 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, for the record po, Madam Speaker, asr-002750 02:52:00.420 --> 02:52:06.900 Rep. JC M. Abalos: pwede po ba namin malaman kung ano ang proposed budget allocation para sa 4P's for year 2027? asr-002751 02:52:07.680 --> 02:52:13.600 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At pwede po bang i-confirm ng ating sponsor na nabawasan po ang pondong ito asr-002752 02:52:13.600 --> 02:52:18.340 Rep. JC M. Abalos: from around 113 billion last year to 99 billion? asr-002753 02:52:27.900 --> 02:52:45.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for 2027, under the 2027 NEP, asr-002754 02:52:45.820 --> 02:52:48.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the allocation would be 99 billion. asr-002755 02:52:48.520 --> 02:52:55.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The decrease as per the DBM would be attributed to a decrease in the number of beneficiaries. asr-002756 02:52:55.620 --> 02:52:57.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Because fortunately, asr-002757 02:52:57.900 --> 02:53:00.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: At least some of them have graduated from the four-piece program. asr-002758 02:53:01.480 --> 02:53:06.420 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, to confirm po, Madam Speaker, ayon po ba sa ating distinguished sponsor pati sa DBM, asr-002759 02:53:06.980 --> 02:53:15.620 Rep. JC M. Abalos: ang primary driver sa budget decrease ay ang changes in the number of beneficiary households. asr-002760 02:53:15.740 --> 02:53:16.540 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Can we get a confirmation? asr-002761 02:53:17.880 --> 02:53:18.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002762 02:53:18.820 --> 02:53:26.540 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And is it true po, Madam Speaker, that for many years, government maintained a target of approximately 4.4 million households asr-002763 02:53:26.540 --> 02:53:34.860 Rep. JC M. Abalos: and now we understand that the number of households is being brought down to 3.5 million. asr-002764 02:53:35.040 --> 02:53:40.280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, gusto ko po malaman, Madam Speaker, kung ano yung empirical basis para sa 3.5 million figure. asr-002765 02:53:40.280 --> 02:53:49.900 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Is it based on PSA poverty statistics, CBMS data, proxy means test, projected graduation of existing beneficiaries? asr-002766 02:53:50.420 --> 02:53:56.280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Ano po ba ang empirical basis at ang primary driver kung bakit po natin pinababa to 3.5 million? asr-002767 02:53:56.540 --> 02:54:01.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I guess, Madam Speaker, that is correct. asr-002768 02:54:02.040 --> 02:54:06.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, from 4.4 million households, now it's at 3.5 million. asr-002769 02:54:07.580 --> 02:54:18.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The 3.5 million level is from the most updated version of the listahanan, from the DSWD, Madam Speaker. asr-002770 02:54:19.580 --> 02:54:25.240 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Madam Speaker, kanina nung pinapag-usapan po natin ang budget ng DepDev, binanggit ko po ang CBMS. asr-002772 02:54:26.540 --> 02:54:35.820 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, was the DBM informed na hindi na po natin ginagamit ng listahanan mula nung nagkaroon na po tayo ng CBMS? asr-002773 02:54:36.240 --> 02:54:47.520 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, sinasabi po ba ng ating distinguished sponsor na ang batayan ng 3.5 million households ay nakabatay pa rin sa listahanan na isinagawa nung nakalipas ng ilang taon na po? asr-002774 02:54:47.700 --> 02:54:50.940 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Lumang datos na po yun. CBMS na po tayo ngayon, Madam Speaker. asr-002775 02:54:50.940 --> 02:54:56.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, Madam Speaker, asr-002776 02:54:56.540 --> 02:55:03.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we're still using listahanan, but now there's a feedback mechanism with the CBMS. asr-002777 02:55:04.020 --> 02:55:14.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Once it's fully rolled out, well, it's already fully rolled out, but now we're matching between the listahanan and the... asr-002778 02:55:15.820 --> 02:55:21.920 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Okay. So, Madam Speaker, para lang po malinaw, habang nandito pa po ang mga kasamahan natin mula sa DepDev, asr-002779 02:55:21.920 --> 02:55:24.120 Rep. JC M. Abalos: pwede rin silang kausapin ng DBM kung gusto nila. asr-002780 02:55:24.620 --> 02:55:25.920 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Sa aking pagkakaintindi, meron po tayong... asr-002781 02:55:26.540 --> 02:55:30.020 Rep. JC M. Abalos: around 3 million active households under the 4-piece program. asr-002782 02:55:30.160 --> 02:55:36.560 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Meron ba tayong breakdown sa 3 million na ito kung ilan dyan ang galing sa listahanan at ilan dyan ang nanggaling sa CBMS? asr-002783 02:55:38.380 --> 02:55:46.460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And could the DBM also confirm, ayon po sa DSWD mismo, may higit 100,000 households tayo subject to validation asr-002784 02:55:46.460 --> 02:55:52.060 Rep. JC M. Abalos: dahil may mga pamilya na hindi mahanap sa CBMS na nasa listahanan dati. asr-002785 02:55:52.060 --> 02:55:55.980 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, pwede po ba tayong magkaroon ng kalinawan mula sa DBM? asr-002786 02:55:55.980 --> 02:56:08.460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Kung paano tayo nag-come up with a new number of household beneficiary targets while at the same time considering na hindi na po listahanan ang ginagamit ngayon, CBMS na po. asr-002787 02:56:09.480 --> 02:56:16.640 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At as a matter of fact, nabanggit ko rin po kanina, 5 bilyong piso ang inilaan natin noong 2024 for the CBMS. asr-002788 02:56:17.180 --> 02:56:24.020 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Sinabi rin po mismo ng DepDev kanina na kompleto na ang kanilang pag-turnover as of this year. asr-002789 02:56:24.020 --> 02:56:25.820 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At hanggang ngayon, hindi pa rin po yun ang ginagamit. asr-002790 02:56:25.980 --> 02:56:30.160 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And next year, bibigyan na naman natin ng panibagong 5 bilyon. asr-002791 02:56:30.520 --> 02:56:33.900 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, ano po talaga? Ano yung breakdown ng active household beneficiaries? asr-002792 02:56:34.120 --> 02:56:36.520 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Ilan yung galing sa listahanan? Ilan yung galing sa CBMS? asr-002793 02:56:38.740 --> 02:56:43.180 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And Madam Speaker, gusto ko po ulit malaman, ano yung empirical basis? asr-002794 02:56:43.880 --> 02:56:49.160 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Poverty statistics ba? Proxy means test ba? Pwede ko po ba malaman, Madam Speaker? asr-002795 02:56:55.980 --> 02:57:07.020 Rep. JC M. Abalos: And habang inaabangan ko po ang sagot ng ating distinguished sponsor, asr-002796 02:57:07.920 --> 02:57:12.960 Rep. JC M. Abalos: gusto ko pong malaman kung sino ang nag-determine ng 3.5 million target. asr-002797 02:57:13.640 --> 02:57:18.320 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Rinekomenda po ba ito ng DSWD, ng DepDev, o ng DBM? asr-002798 02:57:20.320 --> 02:57:21.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-002800 02:57:21.980 --> 02:57:30.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There's an ongoing reconciliation between the listahanan and the CBMS. asr-002801 02:57:33.320 --> 02:57:36.660 Rep. JC M. Abalos: How long has the reconciliation been going on for? asr-002802 02:57:36.980 --> 02:57:40.480 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Considering that the CBMS Act was enacted in 2019, asr-002803 02:57:41.080 --> 02:57:44.540 Rep. JC M. Abalos: and we conducted a population census in 2024, asr-002804 02:57:44.540 --> 02:57:50.600 Rep. JC M. Abalos: and we're about to allot another 5 billion peso budget for the CBMS for next year. asr-002805 02:57:50.800 --> 02:57:51.560 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Okay. asr-002806 02:57:51.980 --> 02:58:02.580 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Sa totoo lang po, Madam Speaker, ang dami pong pamilya na naka-waitlist sa 4Ps. asr-002807 02:58:03.140 --> 02:58:08.520 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At sinasabi ko po na napakahalaga po nito dahil ayon po sa pagsusuri ng PIDS, asr-002808 02:58:09.400 --> 02:58:17.040 Rep. JC M. Abalos: hindi pa po factored in ang Middle East oil crisis kung titignan natin ang ating poverty incidence rate ngayon. asr-002809 02:58:17.380 --> 02:58:21.860 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Sabi po nila 9.8%, pero naputunayan natin kanina, asr-002810 02:58:21.980 --> 02:58:30.800 Rep. JC M. Abalos: na yung data collection natin hindi naman siya isinagawa in a consistent basis. asr-002811 02:58:30.940 --> 02:58:32.700 Rep. JC M. Abalos: In transit siya isinagawa. asr-002812 02:58:32.900 --> 02:58:38.580 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At dahil po dyan, may mga pag-aaral na maaaring magkaroon ng karagdagang 1.34 billion households asr-002813 02:58:38.580 --> 02:58:40.900 Rep. JC M. Abalos: na magiging poor or near poor dahil sa crisis. asr-002814 02:58:41.480 --> 02:58:44.280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So gusto ko po malaman, gano'n nakatagal yung reconciliation? asr-002815 02:58:44.700 --> 02:58:50.910 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Considering na we already allotted 5 billion for the CBMS in 2024, asr-002816 02:58:50.910 --> 02:58:54.180 Rep. JC M. Abalos: and we're about to allot another 5 billion next year. asr-002819 02:58:54.180 --> 02:58:55.520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002820 02:58:55.980 --> 02:58:59.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to the 3.5 million level, asr-002821 02:59:00.000 --> 02:59:04.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DBM defers to the DSWD with regards to that number. asr-002822 02:59:05.240 --> 02:59:15.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So with the technical details of how the 3.5 million level was arrived at, asr-002823 02:59:15.280 --> 02:59:20.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that would be better answered by the DSWD. asr-002824 02:59:20.160 --> 02:59:29.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, at least the goal is that actually there won't be a Listahanan 4 anymore asr-002825 02:59:29.600 --> 02:59:32.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi na-roll out na yung CBMS. asr-002826 02:59:33.200 --> 02:59:38.300 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So the reconciliation is still ongoing, but given that... asr-002827 02:59:38.300 --> 02:59:41.320 Rep. JC M. Abalos: For how many years, Madam Speaker, has the reconciliation been ongoing? asr-002828 02:59:42.020 --> 02:59:45.000 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Kailan po natin kinonsider na outdated na ang listahanan? asr-002830 02:59:50.160 --> 02:59:57.220 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At ilang pamilya pa ba ang vina-validate natin from listahanan to CBMS asr-002831 02:59:57.220 --> 02:59:59.000 Rep. JC M. Abalos: noong nag-transition na tayo to CBMS? asr-002833 03:00:00.000 --> 03:00:03.820 Rep. JC M. Abalos: How many households are still in limbo? Can we find out the number? asr-002834 03:00:04.560 --> 03:00:13.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Unfortunately, Madam Speaker, the DBM doesn't have details with regards to how long this reconciliation has been taking place. asr-002835 03:00:19.220 --> 03:00:23.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's the SWD who would have details on it, Madam Speaker. asr-002836 03:00:23.460 --> 03:00:34.680 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, does the DBM mean to tell us, Madam Speaker, that when we allotted P99 billion for this program, asr-002837 03:00:35.820 --> 03:00:44.120 Rep. JC M. Abalos: hindi pa po natin na-reconcile ang listahan ng mga prospective beneficiaries, considering na ang dami pang naka-waitlist? asr-002838 03:00:48.500 --> 03:00:53.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, Madam Speaker, they really defer to the asr-002839 03:00:53.080 --> 03:00:58.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DSWD with regards to the number of households, as for the level. asr-002840 03:00:58.740 --> 03:01:07.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, the 3.5 million really was determined by the DSWD, and DBM just considered that for the budget allocation of the four-piece program. asr-002841 03:01:07.780 --> 03:01:19.540 Rep. JC M. Abalos: For purposes of allotting budget allocations, does the DBM defer to the DSWD or the CBMS data that was supposed to be furnished by the PSA? asr-002842 03:01:23.460 --> 03:01:39.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, Madam Speaker, it's an implementing agency who would give the level. asr-002843 03:01:40.240 --> 03:01:48.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, particularly for the four-piece program, since it's the DSWD, it would be the DSW that gives. asr-002844 03:01:49.200 --> 03:01:52.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, regardless of the source of the data or what the basis is, asr-002845 03:01:53.460 --> 03:01:56.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it really is the agency proposal. asr-002846 03:01:56.280 --> 03:02:03.280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: For the information of the DBM as well as its attached agencies, asr-002847 03:02:05.000 --> 03:02:10.220 Rep. JC M. Abalos: ayon po sa four-piece law, naka-based po sa National Standardized Targeting System. asr-002848 03:02:10.660 --> 03:02:15.280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: It used to be listahanan, that's correct, at ngayon umaasa na po tayo sa CBMS. asr-002849 03:02:16.540 --> 03:02:20.680 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At gusto ko lang po malaman, and the DBM can furnish this to us later on, asr-002850 03:02:21.040 --> 03:02:23.280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: whether it be the DBM or the... asr-002851 03:02:23.460 --> 03:02:34.080 Rep. JC M. Abalos: DepDev, gusto ko lang po malaman sana what happens today if a household was once identified as poor under listahanan 3, asr-002852 03:02:34.500 --> 03:02:40.220 Rep. JC M. Abalos: so otherwise qualified for four-piece, waitlisted because there was no available slot, asr-002853 03:02:41.000 --> 03:02:45.620 Rep. JC M. Abalos: but now cannot be located or matched in the CBMS. asr-002854 03:02:46.340 --> 03:02:53.340 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Gusto ko lang po malaman from any of our agencies concerned kung meron bang mechanism allowing a family asr-002855 03:02:53.460 --> 03:02:59.040 Rep. JC M. Abalos: to request inclusion, re-enumeration, or independent value validation, asr-002856 03:02:59.500 --> 03:03:03.460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: especially if the NEP budget assumes a reduced caseload, asr-002857 03:03:04.360 --> 03:03:06.260 Rep. JC M. Abalos: kasi based on the budget that we have now. asr-002858 03:03:06.780 --> 03:03:11.480 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Kaya siya bumaba from 113 billion to 99 billion, at sinabi po ito ng ating sponsor, asr-002859 03:03:11.960 --> 03:03:13.720 Rep. JC M. Abalos: meron po tayong reduced caseload. asr-002860 03:03:14.260 --> 03:03:19.460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: At nabanggit rin po kanina na may mga pamilya pa po tayo ng four-piece subject to revalidation, asr-002861 03:03:19.620 --> 03:03:22.460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: kasi nag-transition tayo from listahanan to CBMS. asr-002862 03:03:23.460 --> 03:03:29.140 Rep. JC M. Abalos: So, dahil mag-umaga na, i-request ko na lang po sa ating DBM, pati sa ating sponsor, asr-002863 03:03:29.260 --> 03:03:36.460 Rep. JC M. Abalos: na baka pwede po tayo i-furnish ng mechanism na kanilang ginagamit pagdating po sa programa ng four-piece. asr-002864 03:03:37.280 --> 03:03:42.280 Rep. JC M. Abalos: Yun lamang po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, maraming salamat at magandang gabi po. asr-002865 03:03:43.040 --> 03:03:43.340 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Thank you. asr-002866 03:03:43.360 --> 03:03:43.880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Leader. asr-002867 03:03:49.820 --> 03:03:53.420 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the honor, asr-002868 03:03:53.460 --> 03:03:55.820 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Antonio Tineo for his interpellation. asr-002869 03:03:56.200 --> 03:04:02.080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Antonio Tineo of ACT Teachers Party, this is now recognized for his interpellation. asr-002870 03:04:03.180 --> 03:04:04.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Chair. asr-002871 03:04:05.320 --> 03:04:06.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last na po yata. asr-002872 03:04:07.120 --> 03:04:16.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, anyway, again, meron tayong, balik tayo dun sa presentation. asr-002873 03:04:17.640 --> 03:04:19.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tutal, andito na si Secretary Kim. asr-002874 03:04:22.140 --> 03:04:23.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Importante po ito. asr-002875 03:04:23.460 --> 03:04:24.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na marinig niya. asr-002876 03:04:25.560 --> 03:04:25.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-002877 03:04:30.580 --> 03:04:31.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Presentation. asr-002878 03:04:31.120 --> 03:04:31.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ako. asr-002879 03:04:32.800 --> 03:04:33.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paki-pause po muna. asr-002880 03:04:33.980 --> 03:04:34.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa eh. asr-002885 03:05:41.820 --> 03:05:42.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. asr-002886 03:05:43.040 --> 03:05:44.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright, so here we go again. asr-002887 03:05:48.200 --> 03:05:48.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Again, asr-002888 03:05:49.200 --> 03:05:50.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I showed this earlier. asr-002889 03:05:50.640 --> 03:05:52.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po yung 10-year asr-002890 03:05:52.560 --> 03:05:54.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: history ng asr-002891 03:05:54.960 --> 03:05:55.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MPBF. asr-002892 03:05:57.660 --> 03:05:58.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As I asr-002893 03:05:58.800 --> 03:05:59.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pointed out earlier, asr-002894 03:06:00.940 --> 03:06:04.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: especially under the asr-002895 03:06:04.420 --> 03:06:06.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marcos administration, this administration asr-002896 03:06:06.580 --> 03:06:08.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naging paboritong target po asr-002897 03:06:08.760 --> 03:06:09.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito ng asr-002898 03:06:09.300 --> 03:06:13.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reduction. asr-002899 03:06:15.060 --> 03:06:15.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, asr-002900 03:06:16.080 --> 03:06:17.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagamit daw na source. asr-002901 03:06:17.860 --> 03:06:19.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Source of funding asr-002902 03:06:19.760 --> 03:06:21.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for congressional asr-002903 03:06:21.800 --> 03:06:22.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: insertion. asr-002904 03:06:22.560 --> 03:06:24.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Very clearly, asr-002905 03:06:24.560 --> 03:06:26.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: especially in the years asr-002906 03:06:26.560 --> 03:06:27.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2023, asr-002907 03:06:27.560 --> 03:06:28.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 24, asr-002908 03:06:28.560 --> 03:06:29.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 25, asr-002909 03:06:29.560 --> 03:06:30.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 26. asr-002910 03:06:30.560 --> 03:06:31.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, asr-002911 03:06:31.560 --> 03:06:32.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, asr-002912 03:06:32.560 --> 03:06:34.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: my purpose here is to asr-002913 03:06:34.560 --> 03:06:36.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: point this out and call it out. asr-002914 03:06:36.560 --> 03:06:42.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dapat itigil na yung ganyang modus. asr-002915 03:06:42.560 --> 03:06:46.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In the same way na dapat hindi na rin gawin yan asr-002916 03:06:46.560 --> 03:06:50.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa DOTR Foreign Assisted Project asr-002917 03:06:50.560 --> 03:06:52.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and other foreign assisted projects. asr-002918 03:06:52.560 --> 03:07:02.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But, now my question to the DBM is, yun nga, with regard to the MPBF, proposed MPBF for 2027, asr-002919 03:07:02.560 --> 03:07:07.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: amounting to 55 billion, no? asr-002920 03:07:07.560 --> 03:07:10.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I raised it during the budget briefing pero, asr-002921 03:07:10.560 --> 03:07:20.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi po ba, please confirm, na kasama po sa proposal nyo, yung plano na finally, after, asr-002922 03:07:20.560 --> 03:07:25.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: after, asr-002923 03:07:25.560 --> 03:07:27.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 17 years, asr-002924 03:07:27.560 --> 03:07:30.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: since 2009, asr-002925 03:07:30.560 --> 03:07:31.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay, asr-002926 03:07:31.560 --> 03:07:33.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magkakaroon na ng increase sa asr-002927 03:07:33.560 --> 03:07:36.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: personnel economic relief allowance. asr-002928 03:07:36.560 --> 03:07:41.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 2,000 a month na asr-002929 03:07:41.560 --> 03:07:43.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: allowance, asr-002930 03:07:43.560 --> 03:07:48.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: like a cost of living allowance for all government personnel. asr-002931 03:07:48.560 --> 03:07:49.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi ba, about time, asr-002932 03:07:49.560 --> 03:07:51.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat na pong taasan ito. asr-002933 03:07:51.560 --> 03:07:54.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Considering, asr-002934 03:07:54.560 --> 03:07:57.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may economic crisis asr-002935 03:07:57.560 --> 03:08:00.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at kailangang matulungan asr-002936 03:08:00.560 --> 03:08:03.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ating mga asr-002937 03:08:03.560 --> 03:08:06.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government employees, asr-002938 03:08:06.560 --> 03:08:09.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malaking bahagi sila nung mga low, asr-002939 03:08:09.560 --> 03:08:11.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lower, asr-002940 03:08:11.560 --> 03:08:13.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lower income earners, asr-002941 03:08:13.560 --> 03:08:14.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumbaga, asr-002942 03:08:14.560 --> 03:08:16.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa bansa. So, asr-002943 03:08:16.560 --> 03:08:18.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama po ba sa proposal, asr-002944 03:08:19.560 --> 03:08:22.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o ito po ba ang pagkukuna nung posibleng pagtaas asr-002945 03:08:22.560 --> 03:08:25.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng personnel economic relief allowance? asr-002946 03:08:33.560 --> 03:08:37.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: No final amount as of now, as per the increase, Madam Speaker. asr-002947 03:08:37.560 --> 03:08:40.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, pakiulit po. asr-002948 03:08:45.560 --> 03:08:47.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There is no final amount as of now. asr-002949 03:08:47.560 --> 03:08:49.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No final amount. Pero, asr-002950 03:08:49.560 --> 03:08:51.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumbaga, meron ng, asr-002951 03:08:51.560 --> 03:08:53.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kumbaga, nasa plano na, asr-002952 03:08:53.560 --> 03:08:55.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na magkaroon ng increase. asr-002953 03:08:55.560 --> 03:08:57.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, a portion of it, Madam Speaker. asr-002954 03:08:57.560 --> 03:08:59.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, definitely, asr-002955 03:08:59.560 --> 03:09:02.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increase in pera by 2027. asr-002956 03:09:02.560 --> 03:09:05.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ang plano dito sa proposal, correct? asr-002957 03:09:05.560 --> 03:09:07.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-002958 03:09:07.560 --> 03:09:09.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. O yan, categorical, clear. asr-002959 03:09:09.560 --> 03:09:11.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Finally, asr-002960 03:09:11.560 --> 03:09:13.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: after asr-002961 03:09:13.560 --> 03:09:15.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 17 years, asr-002962 03:09:15.560 --> 03:09:18.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this administration will asr-002963 03:09:18.560 --> 03:09:20.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increase the pera asr-002964 03:09:20.560 --> 03:09:23.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa lahat ng mga government employees na nakikinig. asr-002965 03:09:23.560 --> 03:09:25.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napakagandang balita po niyan. asr-002966 03:09:25.560 --> 03:09:27.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, malinaw din po sinabi, asr-002967 03:09:27.560 --> 03:09:29.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no final amount yet. Okay. asr-002968 03:09:29.560 --> 03:09:32.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The source is the 55 billion asr-002969 03:09:32.560 --> 03:09:34.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MPBF. asr-002970 03:09:34.560 --> 03:09:35.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct? asr-002971 03:09:35.560 --> 03:09:37.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. And, asr-002972 03:09:37.560 --> 03:09:39.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: roughly, asr-002973 03:09:39.560 --> 03:09:43.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for every 1,000 peso increase in pera, asr-002974 03:09:43.560 --> 03:09:45.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magkano po ang kailangan? asr-002975 03:09:47.560 --> 03:09:49.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 24 billion. asr-002976 03:09:49.560 --> 03:09:51.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 24 billion. asr-002977 03:09:51.560 --> 03:09:53.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, para sa ordinaryong, asr-002978 03:09:53.560 --> 03:09:55.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa lahat ng mga empleyado ng gobyerno, asr-002979 03:09:55.560 --> 03:09:56.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig sabihin na, asr-002980 03:09:56.560 --> 03:09:59.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag tinaasa natin ng 1,000 pesos ang pera, asr-002981 03:09:59.560 --> 03:10:01.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that's 1,000 pesos per month. asr-002982 03:10:01.560 --> 03:10:04.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in a year, that would mean an additional, asr-002983 03:10:04.560 --> 03:10:06.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, asr-002984 03:10:06.560 --> 03:10:11.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: additional take-home pay of 12,000 in a year. asr-002985 03:10:11.560 --> 03:10:12.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At tama po ba? asr-002986 03:10:12.560 --> 03:10:16.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayon sa batas at mga patakaran, asr-002987 03:10:16.560 --> 03:10:18.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi tinataks yun. asr-002988 03:10:18.560 --> 03:10:20.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct? asr-002989 03:10:20.560 --> 03:10:21.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-002990 03:10:21.560 --> 03:10:22.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pera is not taxable. asr-002991 03:10:22.560 --> 03:10:24.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pera is not taxed. asr-002992 03:10:24.560 --> 03:10:26.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, makukuha ng buo yun. asr-002993 03:10:26.560 --> 03:10:28.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kunyari, asr-002994 03:10:28.560 --> 03:10:30.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tinaas ng 1,000, asr-002995 03:10:30.560 --> 03:10:33.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that's additional 12,000 asr-002996 03:10:33.560 --> 03:10:34.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, asr-002997 03:10:34.560 --> 03:10:36.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in a year. No? asr-002998 03:10:36.560 --> 03:10:38.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 24,000 for that. asr-002999 03:10:38.560 --> 03:10:40.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That's 2 million asr-003000 03:10:40.560 --> 03:10:41.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, government employees, asr-003001 03:10:41.560 --> 03:10:45.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,000 a month times 12, asr-003002 03:10:45.560 --> 03:10:49.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya naging 24,000 po, ah, 24 billion. asr-003003 03:10:49.560 --> 03:10:50.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003004 03:10:50.560 --> 03:10:53.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, we have 55 billion in the MPDF. asr-003005 03:10:53.560 --> 03:10:56.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, theoretically, asr-003006 03:10:56.560 --> 03:11:01.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, up to at least 2,000 pesos a month asr-003007 03:11:01.560 --> 03:11:03.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may be accommodated. asr-003008 03:11:03.560 --> 03:11:07.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 24 times 2, 48 billion. asr-003009 03:11:07.560 --> 03:11:09.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? asr-003010 03:11:09.560 --> 03:11:10.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct? asr-003011 03:11:10.560 --> 03:11:11.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. asr-003012 03:11:11.560 --> 03:11:12.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct. asr-003013 03:11:12.560 --> 03:11:13.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oo. asr-003014 03:11:18.560 --> 03:11:21.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero marami pa daw pong kinukuha sa MPDF. asr-003015 03:11:21.560 --> 03:11:22.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marami pang kinukuha. asr-003016 03:11:22.560 --> 03:11:23.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As for the DBM. asr-003017 03:11:23.560 --> 03:11:24.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige, for example, asr-003018 03:11:24.560 --> 03:11:26.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: please, kasi nga lump sum po yan eh. asr-003019 03:11:26.560 --> 03:11:28.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po yung iba pang mga pwedeng kunin? asr-003020 03:11:37.560 --> 03:11:39.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the DBM, ah, asr-003021 03:11:39.560 --> 03:11:43.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ito pa po yung mga kinukuha from the MPDF. asr-003022 03:11:43.560 --> 03:11:44.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, asr-003023 03:11:44.560 --> 03:11:45.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: overtime pay, asr-003024 03:11:45.560 --> 03:11:46.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, asr-003025 03:11:46.560 --> 03:11:48.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: PBB, asr-003026 03:11:48.560 --> 03:11:51.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, asr-003027 03:11:51.560 --> 03:11:53.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: creation of new positions, asr-003028 03:11:53.560 --> 03:11:54.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ah, asr-003029 03:11:54.560 --> 03:11:55.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: all of this. asr-003030 03:11:55.560 --> 03:11:56.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, may, ah, asr-003031 03:11:56.560 --> 03:11:58.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: could we have the amount, asr-003032 03:11:58.560 --> 03:11:59.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, asr-003033 03:11:59.560 --> 03:12:00.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that are, asr-003034 03:12:00.560 --> 03:12:01.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, asr-003035 03:12:01.560 --> 03:12:02.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: set aside asr-003036 03:12:02.560 --> 03:12:05.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for those particular, asr-003037 03:12:05.560 --> 03:12:06.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, asr-003038 03:12:06.560 --> 03:12:08.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: item? asr-003053 03:12:27.560 --> 03:12:28.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-003054 03:12:28.560 --> 03:12:29.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: what we have on file asr-003055 03:12:29.560 --> 03:12:30.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: now are just indicative amounts? asr-003056 03:12:30.560 --> 03:12:31.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, asr-003057 03:12:31.560 --> 03:12:32.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we understand indicative, asr-003058 03:12:33.840 --> 03:12:35.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na subject to asr-003059 03:12:35.720 --> 03:12:37.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: adjustment. asr-003064 03:12:38.560 --> 03:12:42.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, please, please share the indicative amount. asr-003065 03:12:44.100 --> 03:12:47.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 55 billion na yan, merong mga yan, di ba? asr-003066 03:12:50.000 --> 03:12:53.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Indicative spending level. asr-003067 03:12:53.820 --> 03:12:55.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, with the indulgence of Honorable Tino. asr-003068 03:12:56.080 --> 03:12:59.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For funding requirement for the filling of vacancies, asr-003069 03:12:59.060 --> 03:13:08.060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: indicative amount would be 12,623,712,000. asr-003070 03:13:09.100 --> 03:13:15.360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For FBI, so performance-based incentive, 21.82 billion. asr-003071 03:13:16.380 --> 03:13:19.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Legal defense fund, 200 million. asr-003072 03:13:20.140 --> 03:13:22.160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For the payment of other personal benefits, asr-003073 03:13:22.320 --> 03:13:25.940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so overtime pay, 141.2 million. asr-003074 03:13:25.940 --> 03:13:27.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sorry, million. asr-003075 03:13:27.880 --> 03:13:33.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Step increment due to meritorious performance, 24.88 million. asr-003076 03:13:34.240 --> 03:13:37.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The increase in the personnel economic relief allowance, so pera, asr-003077 03:13:38.180 --> 03:13:38.540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 11. asr-003078 03:13:38.560 --> 03:13:42.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 11.79 billion. asr-003079 03:13:43.680 --> 03:13:45.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun na yung amount for pera. asr-003080 03:13:46.380 --> 03:13:47.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Indicative amount. asr-003081 03:13:48.120 --> 03:13:50.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that for the existing pera or? asr-003082 03:13:50.420 --> 03:13:51.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Indicative. Indicative amount. asr-003083 03:13:52.360 --> 03:13:53.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That's for additional pera? asr-003084 03:13:55.040 --> 03:13:55.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003085 03:13:55.900 --> 03:13:57.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: In the pera. asr-003086 03:13:57.620 --> 03:13:58.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano po? 11? asr-003087 03:13:59.140 --> 03:14:04.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 11.7, 11 billion, 793,948,000. asr-003088 03:14:05.240 --> 03:14:07.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 93 billion. asr-003089 03:14:07.300 --> 03:14:07.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003090 03:14:08.560 --> 03:14:12.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, well, there you have it. asr-003091 03:14:12.860 --> 03:14:13.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We have an amount. asr-003092 03:14:14.620 --> 03:14:15.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. asr-003093 03:14:15.560 --> 03:14:16.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Indicative amount. asr-003094 03:14:16.340 --> 03:14:16.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 11.7. asr-003095 03:14:17.740 --> 03:14:23.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that would be certainly less than 500. asr-003096 03:14:24.420 --> 03:14:25.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? asr-003097 03:14:25.900 --> 03:14:26.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Roughly. asr-003098 03:14:52.770 --> 03:14:59.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] level is at 500, yung 500 per month. asr-003108 03:15:00.000 --> 03:15:02.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Again, these are indicative amounts. asr-003109 03:15:02.900 --> 03:15:09.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So right now, 500 pesos per month dagdag sa pera, that would be 6,000 in a year. Tama po? asr-003110 03:15:10.200 --> 03:15:10.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. asr-003111 03:15:10.440 --> 03:15:27.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung mananatili yung MPBF. And of course, as we said, panawagan na ito sa mga kasama natin sa Kongreso, huwag na pong gawalawin o huwag bawasan ang MPBF. asr-003112 03:15:27.260 --> 03:15:29.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kung sakali, dagdagan pa nga. asr-003113 03:15:29.540 --> 03:15:48.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? Para naman maipagmalaki ng administrasyon na sila ang unang magdadagdag ng pera at well, 500 ang idadagdag. Baka naman pwedeng dagdagan pa. asr-003114 03:15:48.240 --> 03:15:52.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Anyway, so thank you for that information. asr-003115 03:15:53.240 --> 03:15:56.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, of course, ang... asr-003116 03:15:57.260 --> 03:16:04.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilinaw ko lang, ang long-standing demand namin, yung 2,000 gawing 5,000 a month yung pera. asr-003117 03:16:04.880 --> 03:16:27.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. And let me note also that in 2026, the administration increased the, let's say, the subsistence allowance of uniformed personnel from around 150 a day to 300 or so. asr-003118 03:16:27.260 --> 03:16:31.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang gano'n, di ba? Magkano yung inabot nun? How much did that cost? asr-003119 03:16:38.560 --> 03:16:42.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 74 billion as per the DBM, Madam Speaker. asr-003120 03:16:42.060 --> 03:16:42.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How much? asr-003121 03:16:42.920 --> 03:16:44.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 74 billion. asr-003122 03:16:45.300 --> 03:16:50.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 74 billion? Are you sure? Parang sobra yun, ha? For subsistence allowance? asr-003123 03:16:51.340 --> 03:16:52.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For subsistence allowance. asr-003124 03:16:52.300 --> 03:16:54.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For subsistence allowance. asr-003125 03:16:57.260 --> 03:17:01.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003126 03:17:01.260 --> 03:17:01.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003127 03:17:04.020 --> 03:17:08.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah. After the increase, it's 74 billion. asr-003128 03:17:08.140 --> 03:17:09.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: After the increase? asr-003129 03:17:09.280 --> 03:17:09.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, it's the total. asr-003130 03:17:09.720 --> 03:17:11.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The increase was something like... asr-003131 03:17:14.020 --> 03:17:18.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bigyan nyo yung mas magandang datos kasi parang halaki nun, ha? asr-003132 03:17:19.300 --> 03:17:19.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O. asr-003133 03:17:27.260 --> 03:17:45.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, Madam Speaker, given the increase, kasi it was at 150 before, now it's at 350. So, it's a 200 peso increase. asr-003134 03:17:45.020 --> 03:17:55.500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, roughly, out of the 74 billion, the increase is 40 billion. Out of that 74 billion. asr-003135 03:17:55.560 --> 03:17:57.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 40 billion pesos. asr-003136 03:17:57.260 --> 03:18:08.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, the administration appropriated 40 billion pesos to increase the subsistence allowance of uniformed personnel, no? asr-003137 03:18:09.120 --> 03:18:13.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon yung pera, 11 billion ang nakalaan. asr-003138 03:18:15.020 --> 03:18:18.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Malinaw po, ha? Malinaw. asr-003139 03:18:18.220 --> 03:18:25.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya, I'm arguing, we can do better. This administration can do better for... asr-003140 03:18:25.220 --> 03:18:41.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the nearly 2 million personnel, you know, yung mga regular employees of the national government, as well as the LG youth, no? asr-003141 03:18:42.360 --> 03:18:50.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, bitin po. Sasabihin ko na, medyo bitin yan. Tataas nyo rin lang, bitin yung 11 billion. asr-003142 03:18:50.100 --> 03:18:54.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya, yan po ang hamon sa ating kongreso. Dagdagan pa natin ito. asr-003143 03:18:55.220 --> 03:18:59.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung sa mga nakaraang taon, binabawasan yung MPBF, kailangan po dagdagan ngayon. asr-003144 03:19:01.220 --> 03:19:06.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Uniformed personnel, nabigyan ng 40 billion. 2026. Dagdag. asr-003145 03:19:07.420 --> 03:19:12.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano naman yung mga, eto, yung mga kawanig na rito ngayon, kasama tayong lahat dito. asr-003146 03:19:13.420 --> 03:19:17.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? Tama mo ba? Diba gusto natin ang increase sa pera? asr-003147 03:19:19.140 --> 03:19:23.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, diyo. Narinig nyo, ha? Narinig nyo. Okay. Malinaw na malinaw. asr-003148 03:19:25.220 --> 03:19:27.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let it be on the record. Wala nang energy. Okay. asr-003149 03:19:29.080 --> 03:19:30.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Launa na. asr-003150 03:19:32.020 --> 03:19:34.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright. Move to the next topic. asr-003151 03:19:37.660 --> 03:19:39.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Budget cuts. Okay. asr-003152 03:19:39.740 --> 03:19:47.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang isang natatangi sa budget na ito, binalik yung flood control. asr-003153 03:19:48.820 --> 03:19:54.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: After last year. No, last year, famously, because of the corruption scandal, asr-003154 03:19:55.220 --> 03:20:01.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 255 billion yung tinanggal sa DPWH. Tapos, nilipat sa iba't iba ngayon siya. asr-003155 03:20:02.780 --> 03:20:05.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang pangunahing nakinabang doon, mga social services. asr-003156 03:20:06.940 --> 03:20:14.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, lumaki yung sa DepEd, sa DOH, DSWD, TUPAD, and so on. asr-003157 03:20:15.280 --> 03:20:19.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero for 2027, balik na yung flood control. asr-003158 03:20:19.920 --> 03:20:24.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, total of 105 billion, all in all. asr-003159 03:20:25.220 --> 03:20:29.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 87 or so, nasa DPWH. Nabalik. asr-003160 03:20:31.160 --> 03:20:32.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano naging epekto? asr-003161 03:20:32.640 --> 03:20:38.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isang naging epekto, sa halip na madagdagan, usually, every year, asr-003162 03:20:38.140 --> 03:20:43.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nadadagdagan yung budget ng DepEd, ng DOH, and so on. asr-003163 03:20:43.300 --> 03:20:44.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa halip na madagdagan, nabawasan. asr-003164 03:20:46.340 --> 03:20:46.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003165 03:20:46.580 --> 03:20:53.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At nabawasan, hindi lang yung mga pork barrel items, asr-003166 03:20:53.700 --> 03:20:54.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: such as, asr-003167 03:20:55.220 --> 03:20:56.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the maipip, asr-003168 03:20:56.660 --> 03:20:58.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the TUPAD, asr-003169 03:20:59.420 --> 03:21:00.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on. asr-003170 03:21:01.480 --> 03:21:01.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi, asr-003171 03:21:02.820 --> 03:21:03.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in this case, asr-003172 03:21:04.740 --> 03:21:05.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what are we seeing here? asr-003173 03:21:06.260 --> 03:21:06.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MOE. asr-003174 03:21:07.840 --> 03:21:09.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pati yung MOE ng DepEd. asr-003175 03:21:10.040 --> 03:21:12.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In this case, it's the MOE of public schools. asr-003176 03:21:14.460 --> 03:21:16.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is not, hindi cut. asr-003177 03:21:17.540 --> 03:21:17.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, asr-003178 03:21:19.060 --> 03:21:20.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: notable here, asr-003179 03:21:20.780 --> 03:21:22.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is that the increase asr-003180 03:21:22.140 --> 03:21:24.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in MOE for public schools, asr-003181 03:21:25.220 --> 03:21:27.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proposed for 2027, asr-003182 03:21:28.060 --> 03:21:28.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is at asr-003183 03:21:28.960 --> 03:21:32.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 0.11% asr-003184 03:21:32.420 --> 03:21:35.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for kinder to grade 6 schools. asr-003185 03:21:36.220 --> 03:21:37.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Increase, ha? asr-003186 03:21:37.160 --> 03:21:40.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In-increase nyo yung MOE by 0.11%. asr-003187 03:21:40.300 --> 03:21:45.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sa grade 7 to 10, 0.38%. asr-003188 03:21:45.980 --> 03:21:49.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And grade 11 to 12, 0.33. asr-003189 03:21:49.240 --> 03:21:50.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Less than 1%. asr-003190 03:21:50.800 --> 03:21:52.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 0.33%. asr-003191 03:21:52.600 --> 03:21:53.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lahat yan. asr-003192 03:21:53.200 --> 03:21:54.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: My point being, asr-003193 03:21:55.220 --> 03:21:56.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: way below asr-003194 03:21:56.260 --> 03:21:58.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the inflation rate. asr-003195 03:21:59.740 --> 03:22:00.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Asan ba? asr-003196 03:22:00.140 --> 03:22:01.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nasa 6.2 ba ngayon? asr-003197 03:22:02.580 --> 03:22:04.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in effect, binawasan nyo. asr-003198 03:22:05.360 --> 03:22:05.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? asr-003199 03:22:06.260 --> 03:22:07.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In effect, mas maliit asr-003200 03:22:07.660 --> 03:22:08.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang MOE ngayon asr-003201 03:22:08.980 --> 03:22:10.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga public schools natin. asr-003202 03:22:11.420 --> 03:22:11.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? asr-003203 03:22:12.140 --> 03:22:12.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003204 03:22:12.900 --> 03:22:13.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano pa yung nandyan? asr-003205 03:22:13.660 --> 03:22:14.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. asr-003206 03:22:16.480 --> 03:22:17.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003207 03:22:17.180 --> 03:22:17.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And also, asr-003208 03:22:18.300 --> 03:22:19.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it came out in the budget briefings asr-003209 03:22:19.960 --> 03:22:20.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na, asr-003210 03:22:21.180 --> 03:22:21.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: one, asr-003211 03:22:22.560 --> 03:22:23.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: this proposed budget asr-003212 03:22:23.920 --> 03:22:25.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: has no, asr-003213 03:22:25.220 --> 03:22:26.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no proposal asr-003214 03:22:26.500 --> 03:22:28.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for creation of new items, asr-003215 03:22:29.440 --> 03:22:31.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: new teacher one items asr-003216 03:22:31.820 --> 03:22:32.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 2027. asr-003217 03:22:33.720 --> 03:22:34.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Zero. asr-003218 03:22:35.540 --> 03:22:38.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kahit merong 14,000 plus asr-003219 03:22:38.280 --> 03:22:39.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na shortage tayo. asr-003220 03:22:40.260 --> 03:22:40.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? asr-003221 03:22:41.040 --> 03:22:42.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sinasabi, unfilled positions. asr-003222 03:22:42.560 --> 03:22:44.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero even with the unfilled positions, asr-003223 03:22:44.780 --> 03:22:45.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kulang pa rin po. asr-003224 03:22:46.200 --> 03:22:46.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, zero. asr-003225 03:22:47.340 --> 03:22:47.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, asr-003226 03:22:48.260 --> 03:22:49.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: according to the asr-003227 03:22:49.200 --> 03:22:50.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: DepEd Secretary, asr-003228 03:22:50.420 --> 03:22:51.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Secretary Angara, asr-003229 03:22:52.000 --> 03:22:53.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung aral program, asr-003230 03:22:53.180 --> 03:22:55.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 nilagyan ng budget, asr-003231 03:22:55.940 --> 03:22:56.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon walang budget. asr-003232 03:22:57.780 --> 03:22:58.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? asr-003233 03:22:58.120 --> 03:23:00.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is the learning recovery program. asr-003234 03:23:00.660 --> 03:23:02.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yan yung ninunood po natin. asr-003235 03:23:02.720 --> 03:23:03.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. asr-003236 03:23:06.180 --> 03:23:07.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are the other, asr-003237 03:23:07.980 --> 03:23:08.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: across the board, asr-003238 03:23:09.840 --> 03:23:10.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung DepEd, asr-003239 03:23:12.000 --> 03:23:13.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lumiit at nabawasan asr-003240 03:23:13.440 --> 03:23:15.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga major programs nila asr-003241 03:23:15.300 --> 03:23:17.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the basic education facilities, asr-003242 03:23:18.020 --> 03:23:18.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinakamalaki, asr-003243 03:23:18.740 --> 03:23:20.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that's the classroom construction budget. asr-003244 03:23:20.580 --> 03:23:22.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It was cut by 55%. asr-003245 03:23:23.180 --> 03:23:26.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung school feeding program, asr-003246 03:23:27.660 --> 03:23:28.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nabawasan. asr-003247 03:23:28.800 --> 03:23:30.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung textbooks and instructional materials, asr-003248 03:23:31.440 --> 03:23:33.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung computerization program for laptop, asr-003249 03:23:34.180 --> 03:23:34.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: baba. asr-003250 03:23:34.740 --> 03:23:35.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nakared lahat. asr-003251 03:23:36.420 --> 03:23:36.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? asr-003252 03:23:37.280 --> 03:23:37.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. asr-003253 03:23:40.140 --> 03:23:40.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. asr-003254 03:23:42.300 --> 03:23:43.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: State universities and colleges, asr-003255 03:23:44.400 --> 03:23:45.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cuts din po. asr-003256 03:23:45.500 --> 03:23:47.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are the top 10 cuts. asr-003257 03:23:47.760 --> 03:23:48.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinakamalaki, asr-003258 03:23:48.680 --> 03:23:50.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mariano Marcos State University, asr-003259 03:23:51.020 --> 03:23:51.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 28.8%. asr-003260 03:23:52.740 --> 03:23:53.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lower. asr-003261 03:23:53.440 --> 03:23:54.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or cut. asr-003262 03:23:54.920 --> 03:23:55.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Decrease. asr-003263 03:23:56.160 --> 03:23:57.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Compared to last year. asr-003264 03:23:57.840 --> 03:23:58.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And so on. asr-003265 03:23:58.500 --> 03:23:59.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ko na isa-isahin. asr-003266 03:23:59.660 --> 03:24:00.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. asr-003267 03:24:02.060 --> 03:24:02.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Health. asr-003268 03:24:03.420 --> 03:24:05.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung mga GOCC hospitals, asr-003269 03:24:05.520 --> 03:24:06.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you see there, asr-003270 03:24:06.680 --> 03:24:10.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: cuts in their PS and MOE. asr-003271 03:24:11.000 --> 03:24:12.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This one being shown here, asr-003272 03:24:13.700 --> 03:24:15.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, overall budget cuts. asr-003273 03:24:15.800 --> 03:24:16.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. asr-003274 03:24:18.520 --> 03:24:19.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PS budget cuts asr-003275 03:24:19.760 --> 03:24:21.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for DOH retained hospitals. asr-003276 03:24:22.360 --> 03:24:23.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kulang na kulang, asr-003277 03:24:23.100 --> 03:24:23.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng personel, asr-003278 03:24:24.860 --> 03:24:29.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga DOH hospitals, asr-003279 03:24:29.860 --> 03:24:30.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know, asr-003280 03:24:30.400 --> 03:24:31.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the nurse, asr-003281 03:24:31.720 --> 03:24:32.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the atrocious, asr-003282 03:24:33.080 --> 03:24:34.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nurse to patient ratio, asr-003283 03:24:34.680 --> 03:24:35.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: doctor to patient ratio, asr-003284 03:24:36.060 --> 03:24:37.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero binawasan nyo yung PS. asr-003285 03:24:39.160 --> 03:24:39.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? asr-003286 03:24:40.480 --> 03:24:42.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: By significant amount. asr-003287 03:24:42.640 --> 03:24:43.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, asr-003288 03:24:43.800 --> 03:24:45.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Rizal Medical Center, asr-003289 03:24:45.940 --> 03:24:51.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: less cut by 112 million pesos asr-003290 03:24:51.040 --> 03:24:52.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang PS nila. asr-003291 03:24:53.100 --> 03:24:54.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next slide. asr-003292 03:24:56.020 --> 03:24:57.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung MOE, kinat nyo rin. asr-003293 03:24:58.740 --> 03:24:59.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, asr-003294 03:25:00.660 --> 03:25:02.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National Center for Medical Health, asr-003295 03:25:02.420 --> 03:25:04.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 311 million pesos, asr-003296 03:25:04.300 --> 03:25:05.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binawasan ng MOE asr-003297 03:25:05.600 --> 03:25:07.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga ito. asr-003298 03:25:07.880 --> 03:25:11.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung Quirino Memorial Medical Center, asr-003299 03:25:12.600 --> 03:25:13.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Quezon City to, diba? asr-003300 03:25:14.800 --> 03:25:16.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 511 million pesos, asr-003301 03:25:16.560 --> 03:25:17.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: less ang MOE. asr-003302 03:25:18.060 --> 03:25:18.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, next slide. asr-003303 03:25:20.420 --> 03:25:21.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And more. asr-003304 03:25:21.000 --> 03:25:22.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ko na po isa-isahin. asr-003305 03:25:22.560 --> 03:25:23.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan pa po yung mga cut. asr-003306 03:25:24.180 --> 03:25:24.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003307 03:25:25.260 --> 03:25:27.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, my point being, asr-003308 03:25:28.180 --> 03:25:30.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit po binalik ang flood control asr-003309 03:25:30.340 --> 03:25:31.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: samantala asr-003310 03:25:31.020 --> 03:25:34.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang laki ng mga binawas asr-003311 03:25:34.060 --> 03:25:36.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o hindi man lang dinagdagan asr-003312 03:25:36.260 --> 03:25:40.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung para sa basic services. asr-003313 03:25:40.660 --> 03:25:42.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At as I said, asr-003314 03:25:42.760 --> 03:25:44.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ito yung mga discretionary asr-003315 03:25:44.520 --> 03:25:46.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pork barrel items asr-003316 03:25:46.700 --> 03:25:48.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng social services, asr-003317 03:25:48.660 --> 03:25:51.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but these are the MOE and PS. asr-003318 03:25:52.560 --> 03:25:53.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po, asr-003319 03:25:53.480 --> 03:25:54.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang point natin dito, asr-003320 03:25:54.580 --> 03:25:55.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Chair, asr-003321 03:25:56.720 --> 03:25:57.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi pwede yan. asr-003322 03:25:57.880 --> 03:25:59.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dapat ibalik at dagdagan pa nga. asr-003323 03:26:00.100 --> 03:26:01.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun yung point ko dito. asr-003324 03:26:02.280 --> 03:26:03.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung kinakailangan, asr-003325 03:26:03.180 --> 03:26:03.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tanggalin, asr-003326 03:26:03.700 --> 03:26:04.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bawasan na yung flood control. asr-003327 03:26:05.240 --> 03:26:07.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, dapat balik at dagdagan. asr-003328 03:26:07.800 --> 03:26:09.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po masasabi ng sponsor? asr-003329 03:26:10.940 --> 03:26:12.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: First, anong justification? asr-003330 03:26:12.760 --> 03:26:13.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit yung binawasan? asr-003331 03:26:14.440 --> 03:26:15.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PS, MOE, asr-003332 03:26:15.600 --> 03:26:16.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga public school, asr-003333 03:26:17.860 --> 03:26:19.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tsaka ng mga public hospital. asr-003334 03:26:20.400 --> 03:26:21.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, asr-003335 03:26:21.680 --> 03:26:22.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: oh, asr-003336 03:26:22.560 --> 03:26:24.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ba dapat dagdagan? asr-003337 03:26:29.280 --> 03:26:29.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003338 03:26:30.120 --> 03:26:31.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-003339 03:26:32.180 --> 03:26:34.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We will verify the data asr-003340 03:26:34.800 --> 03:26:39.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least on the part of the DBM asr-003341 03:26:39.100 --> 03:26:42.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: because particularly for personal services, asr-003342 03:26:42.720 --> 03:26:44.680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given that interface po yan, asr-003343 03:26:44.780 --> 03:26:46.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: dapat daw hindi yan nag-decrease. asr-003344 03:26:47.700 --> 03:26:49.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Dapat walang decreases in PSs, asr-003345 03:26:49.280 --> 03:26:50.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particularly since may asr-003346 03:26:50.420 --> 03:26:52.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: new tranche ng SSL. asr-003347 03:26:52.560 --> 03:26:55.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, with the PS, asr-003348 03:26:55.700 --> 03:26:57.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we just have to confirm also asr-003349 03:26:57.340 --> 03:26:58.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with the records of the DBM. asr-003350 03:27:00.600 --> 03:27:02.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, Madam Chair, asr-003351 03:27:02.440 --> 03:27:03.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, asr-003352 03:27:03.520 --> 03:27:04.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sana po makonfirm na ngayon. asr-003353 03:27:04.840 --> 03:27:05.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Please check. asr-003354 03:27:06.380 --> 03:27:06.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? asr-003355 03:27:06.940 --> 03:27:07.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, sige po. asr-003356 03:27:07.980 --> 03:27:08.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. asr-003357 03:27:08.400 --> 03:27:09.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang sinasabi nyo, asr-003358 03:27:09.140 --> 03:27:10.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat pag PS, asr-003359 03:27:10.160 --> 03:27:10.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi nabawasan. asr-003360 03:27:11.220 --> 03:27:12.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, well, asr-003361 03:27:12.720 --> 03:27:13.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I guarantee you, asr-003362 03:27:13.660 --> 03:27:15.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan yung nasa budget book. asr-003363 03:27:15.920 --> 03:27:16.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, sige po. asr-003364 03:27:18.800 --> 03:27:19.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003365 03:27:19.320 --> 03:27:21.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we'll confirm po right now. asr-003366 03:27:21.900 --> 03:27:22.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero, well, asr-003367 03:27:22.300 --> 03:27:23.140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: while waiting. asr-003368 03:27:24.760 --> 03:27:26.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to the MOE, asr-003369 03:27:27.560 --> 03:27:30.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: dapat po wala rin nabawasan dyan. asr-003370 03:27:30.440 --> 03:27:30.980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kasi nga, asr-003371 03:27:31.240 --> 03:27:33.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yun nga po yung consideration na asr-003372 03:27:33.320 --> 03:27:34.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: taas inflation, asr-003373 03:27:36.180 --> 03:27:37.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung mismong fuel asr-003374 03:27:37.740 --> 03:27:40.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and all of the operating expenses, asr-003375 03:27:40.740 --> 03:27:41.900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: talagang tataas po yun lahat. asr-003376 03:27:42.400 --> 03:27:42.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kuryente. asr-003377 03:27:43.580 --> 03:27:45.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, we'll also confirm asr-003378 03:27:45.880 --> 03:27:47.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with the records of the DBM on that. asr-003379 03:27:47.980 --> 03:27:49.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Particularly for asr-003380 03:27:50.000 --> 03:27:52.280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung sa wala po asr-003381 03:27:52.300 --> 03:27:53.020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung asr-003382 03:27:53.020 --> 03:27:56.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: funding for new teacher asr-003383 03:27:56.240 --> 03:27:57.400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: one positions. asr-003384 03:27:57.920 --> 03:27:58.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Before that, asr-003385 03:27:58.940 --> 03:27:59.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung sa MOE po, asr-003386 03:28:00.100 --> 03:28:01.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for example, sa DepEd, asr-003387 03:28:01.160 --> 03:28:02.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit po less than 1% asr-003388 03:28:02.900 --> 03:28:04.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung increase ng mga MOE ng DepEd? asr-003389 03:28:06.360 --> 03:28:08.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In effect, parang nabawasan asr-003390 03:28:08.000 --> 03:28:09.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi nga, inflation, di ba? asr-003391 03:28:10.080 --> 03:28:11.320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. As for the DBM, asr-003392 03:28:11.600 --> 03:28:12.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, asr-003393 03:28:12.920 --> 03:28:14.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: may formula daw po na asr-003394 03:28:14.460 --> 03:28:15.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ginagamit asr-003395 03:28:15.460 --> 03:28:18.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to determine kung ano po yung asr-003396 03:28:18.340 --> 03:28:19.820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: MOE per asr-003397 03:28:19.820 --> 03:28:21.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: school. asr-003398 03:28:22.300 --> 03:28:23.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, may enrollment. asr-003399 03:28:24.000 --> 03:28:25.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, enrollment. asr-003400 03:28:27.360 --> 03:28:28.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mukhang may problema asr-003401 03:28:28.420 --> 03:28:29.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa formula. asr-003402 03:28:30.360 --> 03:28:32.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung ang resulta nito, liliit pa asr-003403 03:28:32.580 --> 03:28:34.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang MOE. asr-003404 03:28:36.940 --> 03:28:37.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003405 03:28:39.820 --> 03:28:40.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003406 03:28:41.360 --> 03:28:42.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DBM will, asr-003407 03:28:43.560 --> 03:28:44.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, it's asr-003408 03:28:44.420 --> 03:28:46.340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in continuous talks with the DepEd. asr-003409 03:28:46.340 --> 03:28:47.580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kasi apparently po, asr-003410 03:28:48.340 --> 03:28:49.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: re-revise naman po continually asr-003411 03:28:49.780 --> 03:28:52.220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: itong formula na ito. Kasi the first, asr-003412 03:28:52.300 --> 03:28:54.240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: at least the preliminary asr-003413 03:28:54.240 --> 03:28:55.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: levels are actually lower. asr-003414 03:28:59.620 --> 03:29:00.300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah. asr-003415 03:29:00.420 --> 03:29:02.440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: They started revising the formulas asr-003416 03:29:02.440 --> 03:29:03.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: na po noong 2025. asr-003417 03:29:04.080 --> 03:29:06.560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, in constant revision naman po asr-003418 03:29:06.560 --> 03:29:08.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: itong formula. asr-003419 03:29:08.920 --> 03:29:10.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, it seems the formula asr-003420 03:29:10.040 --> 03:29:12.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is not asr-003421 03:29:12.360 --> 03:29:13.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: working as it should. Kasi, asr-003422 03:29:14.680 --> 03:29:15.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 2020, asr-003423 03:29:16.380 --> 03:29:17.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi nyo 2025, asr-003424 03:29:17.800 --> 03:29:20.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 2027 proposal nyo asr-003425 03:29:20.120 --> 03:29:21.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is only asr-003426 03:29:21.860 --> 03:29:23.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fractionally asr-003427 03:29:23.560 --> 03:29:25.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: higher than the asr-003428 03:29:25.460 --> 03:29:27.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 level. asr-003429 03:29:29.300 --> 03:29:29.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, asr-003430 03:29:31.540 --> 03:29:31.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mukhang may, asr-003431 03:29:32.040 --> 03:29:33.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi man lang asr-003432 03:29:33.020 --> 03:29:36.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naka-indexed asr-003433 03:29:36.460 --> 03:29:37.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to inflation. Ika nga. asr-003434 03:29:40.260 --> 03:29:41.380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the asr-003435 03:29:41.380 --> 03:29:43.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: DepEd and the DBM will asr-003436 03:29:43.620 --> 03:29:45.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: review again. asr-003437 03:29:45.920 --> 03:29:47.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Please review. At dapat gawan to asr-003438 03:29:47.740 --> 03:29:48.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng asr-003439 03:29:48.200 --> 03:29:51.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paraan ng kongreso. asr-003440 03:29:51.860 --> 03:29:53.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In this case, no? asr-003441 03:29:54.760 --> 03:29:56.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po. Ganun din po asr-003442 03:29:56.580 --> 03:29:58.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa DOH. Bakit po asr-003443 03:29:58.220 --> 03:30:00.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nabawasan yung MOE? You know, during the asr-003446 03:30:00.000 --> 03:30:02.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget briefings? A representative of asr-003447 03:30:02.020 --> 03:30:03.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the DVM, tinanong ko eh, sabi nila asr-003448 03:30:03.720 --> 03:30:05.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya daw po binawasan yung asr-003449 03:30:05.940 --> 03:30:07.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MOE ng mga DOH hospitals asr-003450 03:30:07.640 --> 03:30:09.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi may ma-e-fip naman daw. asr-003451 03:30:14.400 --> 03:30:15.620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, for asr-003452 03:30:15.620 --> 03:30:17.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the levels of asr-003453 03:30:17.640 --> 03:30:19.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the DOH, the budget, asr-003454 03:30:19.700 --> 03:30:21.780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: kasi ano po yan eh, multiple asr-003455 03:30:21.780 --> 03:30:23.700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: components, yung GAA asr-003456 03:30:23.700 --> 03:30:25.800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: level, which is yung National Government Subsidy, asr-003457 03:30:25.900 --> 03:30:27.460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but also they get transfers asr-003458 03:30:27.460 --> 03:30:29.760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and PhilHealth. So, part po asr-003459 03:30:29.760 --> 03:30:31.600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yun nung overall calculus. asr-003460 03:30:31.600 --> 03:30:33.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nila, anyway, they get income asr-003461 03:30:33.700 --> 03:30:36.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: aside from self-generated asr-003462 03:30:36.240 --> 03:30:37.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: income, PhilHealth is income, asr-003463 03:30:38.320 --> 03:30:39.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma-e-fip is also considered asr-003464 03:30:39.800 --> 03:30:41.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: income. Sabi po natin, asr-003465 03:30:41.960 --> 03:30:43.100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba yung income, asr-003466 03:30:44.300 --> 03:30:45.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PhilHealth reimbursement asr-003467 03:30:45.880 --> 03:30:47.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pa yan eh, kailan darating yan? asr-003468 03:30:47.860 --> 03:30:49.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As against MOE, na nandyan asr-003469 03:30:49.860 --> 03:30:51.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na. Diba? asr-003470 03:30:52.340 --> 03:30:54.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Operating budget na asr-003471 03:30:54.060 --> 03:30:55.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon, ang problema mo, asr-003472 03:30:56.080 --> 03:30:57.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you starve the hospitals, asr-003473 03:30:57.460 --> 03:30:59.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of readily asr-003474 03:30:59.120 --> 03:31:01.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on-hand MOE, asr-003475 03:31:01.920 --> 03:31:03.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon, sasabihin ng hospital, asr-003476 03:31:03.180 --> 03:31:05.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sorry, wala kaming pambili ng ano eh, asr-003477 03:31:05.120 --> 03:31:06.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala kaming gamot, asr-003478 03:31:07.200 --> 03:31:09.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala kaming ganitong supply, this or that supply, asr-003479 03:31:10.000 --> 03:31:10.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bilin mo sa labas. asr-003480 03:31:11.700 --> 03:31:13.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun ang nangyayari niyan. Anyway, asr-003481 03:31:13.800 --> 03:31:15.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, we're flagging this issue asr-003482 03:31:15.360 --> 03:31:17.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as well, and dapat i-address to ng asr-003483 03:31:17.500 --> 03:31:19.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hopefully, asr-003484 03:31:19.340 --> 03:31:20.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Kongreso. Okay. asr-003485 03:31:21.980 --> 03:31:23.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sabi ko nga, inilakihan, asr-003486 03:31:23.600 --> 03:31:25.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binalik nyo yung flood control, binawasan asr-003487 03:31:25.500 --> 03:31:27.340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nyo naman itong mga ito. So, tutul po tayo, asr-003488 03:31:27.460 --> 03:31:28.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan, dapat ma-address to. asr-003489 03:31:29.280 --> 03:31:30.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, next issue. asr-003490 03:31:34.860 --> 03:31:35.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pizarro. asr-003491 03:31:35.980 --> 03:31:37.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pizarro. Okay. Yung asr-003492 03:31:37.220 --> 03:31:38.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kontrobersyal na Pizarro. asr-003493 03:31:39.080 --> 03:31:40.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For 2026, asr-003494 03:31:41.440 --> 03:31:43.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung in-issue nyo po na asr-003495 03:31:43.360 --> 03:31:45.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: implementation ng asr-003496 03:31:45.440 --> 03:31:46.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: GAA, asr-003497 03:31:47.340 --> 03:31:48.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it would appear na asr-003498 03:31:48.900 --> 03:31:51.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a total of 1.5 trillion asr-003499 03:31:51.640 --> 03:31:53.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pesos yung naka-Pizarro. Tama po ba? asr-003500 03:31:57.460 --> 03:32:11.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.55 trillion asr-003501 03:32:11.840 --> 03:32:13.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the asr-003502 03:32:13.300 --> 03:32:15.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 GAA, asr-003503 03:32:16.440 --> 03:32:17.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganung kalaki asr-003504 03:32:17.240 --> 03:32:19.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Pizarro. asr-003505 03:32:24.080 --> 03:32:25.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is based on asr-003506 03:32:25.680 --> 03:32:27.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pizarro. asr-003508 03:32:57.460 --> 03:33:11.860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, the DBM confirms, Madam Speaker. So, 1.55 trillion. asr-003509 03:33:11.860 --> 03:33:17.000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, imagine, out of the total GAA, 6.8 trillion? asr-003510 03:33:17.000 --> 03:33:19.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Was it 6.8 trillion? asr-003511 03:33:20.520 --> 03:33:22.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 6.793. asr-003512 03:33:22.520 --> 03:33:32.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Out of the 6.79 trillion GAA, January 5, 2026, nag-issue na kayo nung National Budget Circle na nyo. asr-003513 03:33:33.840 --> 03:33:44.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And of the 6.8 trillion peso budget, 1.55 trillion for later release or PISARO. asr-003514 03:33:44.380 --> 03:33:45.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, naka-delay na. asr-003515 03:33:46.580 --> 03:33:46.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003516 03:33:47.000 --> 03:33:55.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of that, of that 1.5 trillion, magkano na po yung, kasi alam natin, okay, bakit po PISARO? asr-003517 03:33:55.720 --> 03:34:02.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba ang policy is, if it's a congressional intervention, then automatic PISARO. asr-003518 03:34:02.820 --> 03:34:03.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ba yun? asr-003519 03:34:03.280 --> 03:34:03.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ba yun? asr-003520 03:34:17.000 --> 03:34:21.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003521 03:34:22.780 --> 03:34:23.180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. asr-003522 03:34:23.460 --> 03:34:24.480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For my requirements, please. asr-003523 03:34:25.240 --> 03:34:25.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003524 03:34:26.420 --> 03:34:27.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, I heard the answer. asr-003525 03:34:27.900 --> 03:34:28.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige po. asr-003526 03:34:28.580 --> 03:34:28.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Go ahead. asr-003527 03:34:28.960 --> 03:34:31.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, but you have to state it on the record. asr-003528 03:34:32.480 --> 03:34:32.880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003529 03:34:33.100 --> 03:34:38.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, particularly for, well, there are two types of PISARO. asr-003530 03:34:38.280 --> 03:34:44.640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, well, one of which would be the lump sum funds, which they comply with requirements asr-003531 03:34:44.640 --> 03:34:46.840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: before the release of PISARO. asr-003532 03:34:46.840 --> 03:34:46.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003533 03:34:46.880 --> 03:34:46.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003534 03:34:47.000 --> 03:34:50.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that would be 600 billion. asr-003535 03:34:50.940 --> 03:34:55.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, of the 1.55 trillion, isa na po talaga doon yung special purpose funds, diba, yung asr-003536 03:34:55.720 --> 03:35:01.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lump sum funds, which requires omission of a special budget, special, ano tawag din doon, asr-003537 03:35:01.940 --> 03:35:02.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: special budget. asr-003538 03:35:03.920 --> 03:35:04.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003539 03:35:04.660 --> 03:35:08.000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 597 billion of the 1.5 trillion PISARO. asr-003540 03:35:09.200 --> 03:35:13.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, of that, magkano doon yung congressional insertion or amendment? asr-003541 03:35:13.940 --> 03:35:14.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003542 03:35:17.000 --> 03:35:46.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, of that, magkano doon yung congressional insertion or amendment? asr-003543 03:35:46.980 --> 03:35:47.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003544 03:35:47.040 --> 03:35:48.040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 924. asr-003545 03:35:48.040 --> 03:35:57.260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 924 billion for the departments, but not all of those would be from the Congress, kasi asr-003546 03:35:57.260 --> 03:36:00.720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: some of them are being managed by the central offices also. asr-003547 03:36:01.320 --> 03:36:01.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003548 03:36:02.260 --> 03:36:06.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 900 of the 1.5, 924? asr-003549 03:36:07.360 --> 03:36:08.660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 924, yes. asr-003550 03:36:08.660 --> 03:36:14.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Billion are department PISARO, hindi special purpose fund, yanon po ba? asr-003551 03:36:14.860 --> 03:36:15.080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. asr-003552 03:36:15.520 --> 03:36:16.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I don't see here. asr-003553 03:36:16.060 --> 03:36:16.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003554 03:36:16.980 --> 03:36:18.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: All right. asr-003555 03:36:18.520 --> 03:36:29.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, my point here is, hindi po ba kayo sangayon na yung because of the, our budget process asr-003556 03:36:29.480 --> 03:36:35.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na merong NEP, tapos merong congressional insertion, and then PISARO, ang nagiging asr-003557 03:36:35.400 --> 03:36:37.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: epekto po niyan, delay. asr-003558 03:36:39.260 --> 03:36:46.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa halip na mapatupad sa fiscal year, yung proyekto, magba-validation muna, and then asr-003559 03:36:46.980 --> 03:36:58.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: basically, second half of the year na yung pagpapabid and award, then implementation will asr-003560 03:36:58.020 --> 03:37:02.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: be, you know, either end of the year or next year. asr-003561 03:37:02.480 --> 03:37:13.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po, dalawang taon ang typical na timeframe na binibigay for obligation and award and asr-003562 03:37:13.800 --> 03:37:14.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so on. asr-003563 03:37:15.460 --> 03:37:16.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003564 03:37:16.980 --> 03:37:17.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hmm. asr-003565 03:37:39.920 --> 03:37:40.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hmm. asr-003566 03:37:46.980 --> 03:37:50.920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: , ah, yes, we agree with, ah, the honorable Pino. asr-003567 03:37:50.920 --> 03:37:57.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Um, yeah, with regards to the evaluation of the PISAROs, kaya po nadedelay kasi new projects asr-003568 03:37:57.420 --> 03:37:58.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: talaga siya. asr-003569 03:37:58.420 --> 03:37:59.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Hmm. asr-003570 03:37:59.420 --> 03:38:00.420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, yun, yun yung one of the causes. asr-003571 03:38:00.420 --> 03:38:01.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003572 03:38:01.420 --> 03:38:02.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This includes classrooms, for example. asr-003573 03:38:02.420 --> 03:38:03.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? asr-003574 03:38:03.420 --> 03:38:09.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, isang napakalaking problema ng administrasyong ito, yung napakabagal na delivery on the construction asr-003575 03:38:09.920 --> 03:38:10.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of classroom. asr-003576 03:38:10.920 --> 03:38:15.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And, ah, one reason there is, yun nga, hintayin pa yung listahan ng mga congressman. asr-003577 03:38:15.880 --> 03:38:16.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003578 03:38:16.880 --> 03:38:17.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga senador. asr-003579 03:38:17.880 --> 03:38:18.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It takes a long time to validate. asr-003580 03:38:18.880 --> 03:38:19.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang tagal tuloy. asr-003581 03:38:19.880 --> 03:38:20.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The target for construction for 2027, 700 classrooms lang daw. asr-003582 03:38:20.880 --> 03:38:21.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung target for construction. asr-003583 03:38:21.880 --> 03:38:22.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung actual completion, ah. asr-003584 03:38:22.880 --> 03:38:23.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 700 lang. asr-003585 03:38:23.880 --> 03:38:24.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hmm. asr-003586 03:38:24.880 --> 03:38:25.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Out of more than 6,000 funded. asr-003587 03:38:25.880 --> 03:38:26.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003588 03:38:26.880 --> 03:38:45.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: My point being, ang, ang punto lang po natin, we see how the, this pork barrel system, ah, asr-003589 03:38:45.780 --> 03:38:55.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, now is becoming the bottleneck to the urgent delivery of public infrastructure asr-003590 03:38:55.780 --> 03:38:56.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the people. asr-003591 03:38:56.780 --> 03:38:57.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun na po nangyayari. asr-003592 03:38:57.780 --> 03:38:58.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hadlang na po. asr-003593 03:38:58.780 --> 03:38:59.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? asr-003594 03:38:59.780 --> 03:39:00.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kailangan baguhin. asr-003595 03:39:00.780 --> 03:39:01.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, I know, tapos na yung oras. asr-003596 03:39:01.780 --> 03:39:02.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya, ah, huling topic na hindi ko na talaga palalalimit. asr-003597 03:39:02.780 --> 03:39:03.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam ko naman, meron pang pagkakataon na bumalik ang DBM. asr-003617 03:39:22.780 --> 03:39:23.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Panimula na lang po. asr-003618 03:39:23.780 --> 03:39:24.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This has to do with the LGSF. asr-003619 03:39:24.760 --> 03:39:25.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? asr-003620 03:39:25.760 --> 03:39:26.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, we might just see. asr-003621 03:39:26.760 --> 03:39:27.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last na po itong slide natin. asr-003622 03:39:27.780 --> 03:39:34.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, as we know, yung LGSF po talagang lumaki nung 2026. asr-003623 03:39:34.220 --> 03:39:35.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? asr-003624 03:39:35.700 --> 03:39:40.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Particularly the financial assistance to local government unit. asr-003625 03:39:40.780 --> 03:39:41.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? asr-003626 03:39:41.780 --> 03:39:44.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, and I heard, I heard earlier. asr-003627 03:39:44.140 --> 03:39:45.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo... asr-003628 03:39:45.140 --> 03:39:45.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: . 나 ... humihingi. asr-003629 03:39:45.780 --> 03:39:51.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba yung mga proyektong pinondohan sa FALGU? asr-003630 03:39:52.600 --> 03:39:54.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Financial Assistance to LGUs. asr-003631 03:39:55.000 --> 03:39:56.500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo, may website kayo. asr-003632 03:39:57.540 --> 03:39:59.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kinuha namin yung dato sa website. asr-003633 03:40:00.800 --> 03:40:05.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But your website is really not that user-friendly. asr-003634 03:40:06.040 --> 03:40:06.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, anyway, asr-003635 03:40:07.760 --> 03:40:08.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandito, asr-003636 03:40:09.020 --> 03:40:10.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makikita dito asr-003637 03:40:10.300 --> 03:40:12.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung top 60 asr-003638 03:40:12.960 --> 03:40:15.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: LGUs asr-003639 03:40:15.020 --> 03:40:16.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that received asr-003640 03:40:16.140 --> 03:40:19.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that received asr-003641 03:40:19.480 --> 03:40:21.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: financial assistance asr-003642 03:40:21.560 --> 03:40:24.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 2025 and 2026. asr-003643 03:40:24.520 --> 03:40:25.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I think this is 2025. asr-003644 03:40:26.220 --> 03:40:27.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May paraan ba para palakihin yan? asr-003645 03:40:29.080 --> 03:40:29.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. asr-003646 03:40:31.120 --> 03:40:32.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So in 2025, asr-003647 03:40:32.780 --> 03:40:34.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The top recipient of FALGU asr-003648 03:40:34.680 --> 03:40:37.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of financial assistance asr-003649 03:40:37.620 --> 03:40:39.020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was the city of Manila. asr-003650 03:40:40.240 --> 03:40:44.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: With 530 million pesos, asr-003651 03:40:44.440 --> 03:40:45.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the second, asr-003652 03:40:46.140 --> 03:40:46.840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: number two, asr-003653 03:40:47.020 --> 03:40:47.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the city of Naga, asr-003654 03:40:48.500 --> 03:40:50.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with 500 million pesos. asr-003655 03:40:52.860 --> 03:40:54.300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kakaiba, asr-003656 03:40:54.460 --> 03:40:56.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakalaki po ng mga ito. asr-003657 03:40:56.380 --> 03:40:58.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whereas all the other cities, asr-003658 03:40:58.840 --> 03:41:00.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasa mga 30 million, asr-003659 03:41:00.340 --> 03:41:01.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 25 million, asr-003660 03:41:02.040 --> 03:41:03.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang kanilang natanggap. asr-003661 03:41:04.780 --> 03:41:07.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, if you look at city of Manila, asr-003662 03:41:08.880 --> 03:41:10.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you hover over the... asr-003663 03:41:10.920 --> 03:41:11.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po. asr-003664 03:41:12.520 --> 03:41:14.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 530 million pesos, asr-003665 03:41:14.440 --> 03:41:17.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pinakamalaking item yan, asr-003666 03:41:17.920 --> 03:41:18.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: single item, asr-003667 03:41:18.820 --> 03:41:19.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 500 million asr-003668 03:41:19.720 --> 03:41:21.440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for a building asr-003669 03:41:21.440 --> 03:41:23.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the pamantasan asr-003670 03:41:23.520 --> 03:41:24.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Lunsug ng Maynila. asr-003671 03:41:25.740 --> 03:41:27.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, binigyan sila ng 500 million. asr-003672 03:41:28.100 --> 03:41:28.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa Naga naman, asr-003673 03:41:30.000 --> 03:41:31.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito, this is well covered. asr-003674 03:41:32.340 --> 03:41:34.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung 500 million asr-003675 03:41:34.420 --> 03:41:35.760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na natanggap ng Naga, asr-003676 03:41:36.700 --> 03:41:38.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 450 million of that asr-003677 03:41:38.820 --> 03:41:41.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: was for the asr-003678 03:41:41.320 --> 03:41:42.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: multi-purpose building asr-003679 03:41:42.720 --> 03:41:44.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: comprehensive building. asr-003680 03:41:44.420 --> 03:41:46.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Retrofitting and rehabilitation asr-003681 03:41:46.940 --> 03:41:49.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Jesse M. Robredo asr-003682 03:41:49.820 --> 03:41:52.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coliseum asr-003683 03:41:52.520 --> 03:41:53.660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or stadium asr-003684 03:41:53.660 --> 03:41:55.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Naga City. asr-003685 03:41:57.180 --> 03:41:58.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 430 million, asr-003686 03:41:58.780 --> 03:42:00.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 450 million. asr-003687 03:42:02.160 --> 03:42:02.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whereas, asr-003688 03:42:04.060 --> 03:42:04.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung typical asr-003689 03:42:04.780 --> 03:42:05.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga asr-003690 03:42:05.540 --> 03:42:08.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: LGUs, yung typical na asr-003691 03:42:08.580 --> 03:42:10.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: infrastructure project na binibigay sa kanila, asr-003692 03:42:12.000 --> 03:42:13.040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: let's see a random one asr-003693 03:42:13.040 --> 03:42:13.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: near the bottom, asr-003694 03:42:14.420 --> 03:42:15.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh, asr-003695 03:42:16.760 --> 03:42:17.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayan, for example, asr-003696 03:42:18.520 --> 03:42:20.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the LGU of Kinuguitan, asr-003697 03:42:21.080 --> 03:42:22.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Misamis Oriental, asr-003698 03:42:22.300 --> 03:42:23.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakatanggap ng 25 million. asr-003699 03:42:26.240 --> 03:42:27.660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Please wrap up, asr-003700 03:42:27.820 --> 03:42:28.880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: representative team. asr-003701 03:42:28.880 --> 03:42:30.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, improvement of water supply, asr-003702 03:42:30.580 --> 03:42:31.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10 million, asr-003703 03:42:31.800 --> 03:42:33.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: concreting of local road in Barangay, asr-003704 03:42:34.500 --> 03:42:35.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 5 million, etc., etc. asr-003705 03:42:36.440 --> 03:42:38.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun po ang range asr-003706 03:42:38.160 --> 03:42:40.200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga proyekto na pinupondohan asr-003707 03:42:40.200 --> 03:42:42.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng financial assistance asr-003708 03:42:42.880 --> 03:42:43.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to LGUs. asr-003709 03:42:44.420 --> 03:42:46.480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And this is, according to your guidelines, asr-003710 03:42:46.640 --> 03:42:48.680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: purely at the discretion of the asr-003711 03:42:48.680 --> 03:42:49.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: DBM. asr-003712 03:42:50.640 --> 03:42:52.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di po ba? Kayo nag-de-decide. asr-003713 03:42:54.100 --> 03:42:54.580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, asr-003714 03:42:55.840 --> 03:42:58.540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang basis nyo asr-003715 03:42:58.540 --> 03:43:00.720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para mag-decide, asr-003716 03:43:00.800 --> 03:43:02.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay, yung Manila, bibigyan namin ng asr-003717 03:43:02.900 --> 03:43:05.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 500 million asr-003718 03:43:05.400 --> 03:43:06.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa kanilang isang building. asr-003719 03:43:07.440 --> 03:43:08.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung Naga, bibigyan namin ng asr-003720 03:43:08.900 --> 03:43:10.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 450 million asr-003721 03:43:10.180 --> 03:43:12.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa kanilang Coliseum. asr-003722 03:43:12.580 --> 03:43:14.380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantalang, yung ibang mga bayan, asr-003723 03:43:14.420 --> 03:43:16.900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay, tigpa 5 million asr-003724 03:43:16.900 --> 03:43:18.140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na kayo na Barangay Road. asr-003725 03:43:19.340 --> 03:43:20.280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How do you explain that? asr-003726 03:43:21.660 --> 03:43:22.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, asr-003727 03:43:22.400 --> 03:43:24.180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we're talking about equitable asr-003728 03:43:24.180 --> 03:43:26.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: distribution asr-003729 03:43:26.520 --> 03:43:27.860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of resources. asr-003730 03:43:30.640 --> 03:43:32.360 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Madam Sponsor, please answer asr-003731 03:43:32.360 --> 03:43:34.620 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the question so that we can wrap up. asr-003732 03:43:35.520 --> 03:43:36.740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-003733 03:43:37.460 --> 03:43:38.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for DBM, asr-003734 03:43:38.360 --> 03:43:40.100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it really depends on asr-003735 03:43:40.100 --> 03:43:42.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: which particular LGUs asr-003736 03:43:42.200 --> 03:43:44.200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: submit project proposal. asr-003737 03:43:44.420 --> 03:43:45.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, so asr-003738 03:43:45.700 --> 03:43:47.880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa unahan lang na submit. asr-003739 03:43:47.880 --> 03:43:48.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whoever is submitting. asr-003740 03:43:49.360 --> 03:43:51.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Anyway, Madam Speaker, asr-003741 03:43:52.940 --> 03:43:54.220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: alam ko wala ng oras. asr-003742 03:43:54.660 --> 03:43:56.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, inahighlight lang po natin asr-003743 03:43:56.120 --> 03:43:57.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung concern natin regarding asr-003744 03:43:57.640 --> 03:44:00.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the LGSF, asr-003745 03:44:00.580 --> 03:44:02.920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: particularly, the discretionary asr-003746 03:44:02.920 --> 03:44:04.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nature of asr-003747 03:44:04.400 --> 03:44:06.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: financial assistance to LGUs. asr-003748 03:44:07.180 --> 03:44:08.620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napaka, kitang-kita nyo asr-003749 03:44:08.620 --> 03:44:10.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naman yung disparity asr-003750 03:44:10.600 --> 03:44:11.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito. asr-003751 03:44:11.980 --> 03:44:13.980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, we question, asr-003752 03:44:14.420 --> 03:44:17.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for instance, asr-003753 03:44:18.240 --> 03:44:19.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sole approving authority asr-003754 03:44:19.940 --> 03:44:20.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito ang DBM. asr-003755 03:44:21.840 --> 03:44:22.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nasa inyo yan. asr-003756 03:44:23.600 --> 03:44:25.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, yun po ang kinikwestiyon natin. asr-003757 03:44:26.280 --> 03:44:27.320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As I said, asr-003758 03:44:28.060 --> 03:44:29.360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we're raising the question now. asr-003759 03:44:30.500 --> 03:44:32.060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mas malaki pa rin yung asr-003760 03:44:32.060 --> 03:44:33.800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proposed appropriation asr-003761 03:44:33.800 --> 03:44:35.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for LGSF asr-003762 03:44:35.780 --> 03:44:37.940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including Falgo for 2027. asr-003763 03:44:38.200 --> 03:44:40.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya patuloy pa rin natin tatanungin yan. asr-003764 03:44:40.160 --> 03:44:42.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I believe we will have an opportunity asr-003765 03:44:42.080 --> 03:44:44.120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: when it comes to lump sum, asr-003766 03:44:44.420 --> 03:44:45.700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: funds. asr-003767 03:44:46.440 --> 03:44:48.640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, to be continued pa po ito, asr-003768 03:44:48.760 --> 03:44:51.460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, asr-003769 03:44:52.860 --> 03:44:55.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maraming salamat po sa sponsor. asr-003770 03:44:55.980 --> 03:44:57.400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang dito na lamang po. asr-003771 03:44:57.820 --> 03:44:59.240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At again, huwag natin kalimutan, asr-003773 03:45:00.000 --> 03:45:04.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, malinaw na po, magkakaroon ng increase sa pera. asr-003774 03:45:04.580 --> 03:45:05.820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang ito na lang muna tayo. asr-003775 03:45:06.380 --> 03:45:07.780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-003776 03:45:08.100 --> 03:45:08.580 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Thank you. asr-003777 03:45:09.480 --> 03:45:10.140 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader? asr-003778 03:45:18.420 --> 03:45:24.340 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Serge Dagoac for his interpellation. asr-003779 03:45:24.940 --> 03:45:29.440 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Sergio Dagoac of APEC Partylist is hereby recognized. asr-003780 03:45:30.000 --> 03:45:35.100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-003781 03:45:35.280 --> 03:45:36.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Majority Leader. asr-003782 03:45:37.300 --> 03:45:39.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Magandang umaga na po sa ating lahat. asr-003783 03:45:40.940 --> 03:45:51.220 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I was tasked to terminate the budget interpellation and debate on DIPDIV. asr-003784 03:45:52.440 --> 03:45:55.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: However, I would like to manifest first that asr-003785 03:45:55.940 --> 03:45:59.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I have asr-003786 03:45:59.000 --> 03:46:01.540 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: still a lot of asr-003787 03:46:01.540 --> 03:46:04.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: frustrations with asr-003788 03:46:04.080 --> 03:46:08.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: the way the PSA asr-003789 03:46:08.120 --> 03:46:14.100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: fulfill their mandate under their charter. asr-003790 03:46:14.820 --> 03:46:15.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, asr-003791 03:46:15.920 --> 03:46:22.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: there being no other members of the minority who wish to interpellate asr-003792 03:46:22.120 --> 03:46:23.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: as of this morning asr-003793 03:46:23.860 --> 03:46:26.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to the budget of the DIPDIV, asr-003794 03:46:26.840 --> 03:46:28.860 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I move, Madam Speaker, asr-003795 03:46:29.000 --> 03:46:32.040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: to terminate the interpellation and debate asr-003796 03:46:32.040 --> 03:46:37.040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on the budget of DIPDIV and its attached agencies asr-003797 03:46:37.040 --> 03:46:43.240 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: excluding the PSA. asr-003798 03:46:43.240 --> 03:46:47.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kasi kailangan pang pag-usapan dito asr-003799 03:46:47.080 --> 03:46:48.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on other asr-003800 03:46:48.920 --> 03:46:50.840 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: other asr-003801 03:46:50.840 --> 03:46:54.680 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: DIPDIV yung budget ng PSE asr-003802 03:46:54.680 --> 03:46:56.460 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: because that has asr-003803 03:46:56.460 --> 03:46:58.600 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bearing on our decisions. asr-003804 03:46:59.000 --> 03:47:00.580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kita mo naman halos lahat asr-003805 03:47:00.580 --> 03:47:03.000 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: sa budget, et cetera, asr-003806 03:47:03.660 --> 03:47:04.380 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: CBMS, asr-003807 03:47:04.840 --> 03:47:07.440 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: puro po data gathering ang problema. asr-003808 03:47:08.040 --> 03:47:09.260 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I cannot understand asr-003809 03:47:09.260 --> 03:47:12.640 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: bakit umabot ng anim na taon asr-003810 03:47:12.640 --> 03:47:14.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: yung sinasabi nyo kanina, asr-003811 03:47:14.800 --> 03:47:15.780 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: pero taon-taon, asr-003812 03:47:15.920 --> 03:47:18.980 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ako as a general manager of two electric cooperatives, asr-003813 03:47:19.920 --> 03:47:20.060 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: no, asr-003814 03:47:20.580 --> 03:47:23.360 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ay nagfi-fill up asr-003815 03:47:23.360 --> 03:47:26.120 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: ng utility survey. asr-003816 03:47:26.840 --> 03:47:28.340 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Taon-taon po yun. asr-003817 03:47:28.340 --> 03:47:28.960 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kaya, asr-003818 03:47:29.000 --> 03:47:30.080 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I could not understand. asr-003819 03:47:30.240 --> 03:47:32.200 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Kailangang mabosisi yun asr-003820 03:47:32.200 --> 03:47:34.800 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: because that has a lot of bearing asr-003821 03:47:34.800 --> 03:47:37.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: on the decision-making of our budget. asr-003822 03:47:37.600 --> 03:47:37.920 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, asr-003823 03:47:38.640 --> 03:47:40.620 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I so move, Madam Speaker. asr-003824 03:47:41.080 --> 03:47:42.340 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? asr-003825 03:47:44.120 --> 03:47:45.320 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, asr-003826 03:47:46.320 --> 03:47:48.020 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on the part of the majority, asr-003827 03:47:48.680 --> 03:47:49.720 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: we join the minority asr-003828 03:47:49.720 --> 03:47:52.200 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: in the motion to terminate the interpellations asr-003829 03:47:52.200 --> 03:47:53.560 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the proposed budget asr-003830 03:47:53.560 --> 03:47:55.680 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Department of asr-003831 03:47:55.680 --> 03:47:58.220 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Economy, Planning, and Development, asr-003832 03:47:58.680 --> 03:47:58.840 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: including the attached agencies asr-003833 03:47:58.840 --> 03:48:01.740 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: excluding PSA. asr-003834 03:48:02.360 --> 03:48:04.640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate asr-003835 03:48:04.640 --> 03:48:07.180 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: the interpellations of the proposed budget asr-003836 03:48:07.180 --> 03:48:10.320 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the Department of Economy, Planning, and Development, asr-003837 03:48:10.580 --> 03:48:14.160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: including attached agencies except PSA. asr-003838 03:48:14.640 --> 03:48:15.700 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? asr-003839 03:48:16.800 --> 03:48:17.920 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The chair hears none. asr-003840 03:48:18.120 --> 03:48:20.400 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations of the said proposed budget asr-003841 03:48:20.400 --> 03:48:21.680 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby terminated. asr-003842 03:48:22.760 --> 03:48:23.700 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-003843 03:48:24.020 --> 03:48:25.400 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, DIPDIV. asr-003844 03:48:25.680 --> 03:48:26.380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. asr-003847 03:48:38.750 --> 03:48:39.320 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. asr-003848 03:48:39.480 --> 03:48:40.020 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, asr-003849 03:48:40.400 --> 03:48:41.620 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to recognize asr-003850 03:48:41.620 --> 03:48:45.280 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Antonio Tino. asr-003851 03:48:50.280 --> 03:48:52.620 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Representative Tino is hereby recognized. asr-003852 03:48:53.160 --> 03:48:53.740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, asr-003853 03:48:54.200 --> 03:48:55.080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it is my honor asr-003854 03:48:55.080 --> 03:48:56.560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in behalf of the minority asr-003855 03:48:56.560 --> 03:48:58.520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to move for the termination asr-003856 03:48:58.520 --> 03:49:01.420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the budget deliberation asr-003857 03:49:01.420 --> 03:49:04.960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the deliberations on the budget, asr-003858 03:49:05.400 --> 03:49:06.260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the proposed budget asr-003859 03:49:06.260 --> 03:49:09.600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Department of Budget and Management. asr-003860 03:49:10.520 --> 03:49:12.160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I so move, Madam Speaker. asr-003861 03:49:12.500 --> 03:49:14.180 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? asr-003862 03:49:16.300 --> 03:49:17.420 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, asr-003863 03:49:17.860 --> 03:49:19.340 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part of the majority, asr-003864 03:49:19.620 --> 03:49:21.440 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority on the motion asr-003865 03:49:21.440 --> 03:49:23.900 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate the period of interpellations asr-003866 03:49:23.900 --> 03:49:25.740 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the proposed budget asr-003867 03:49:25.740 --> 03:49:28.240 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of Department of Budget and Management asr-003868 03:49:28.240 --> 03:49:29.860 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: including Attach Agency. asr-003869 03:49:30.520 --> 03:49:31.640 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion asr-003870 03:49:31.640 --> 03:49:33.460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: to terminate the interpellations asr-003871 03:49:33.460 --> 03:49:34.480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: on the proposed budget asr-003872 03:49:34.480 --> 03:49:36.540 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the Department of Budget and Management. asr-003873 03:49:36.720 --> 03:49:37.760 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? asr-003874 03:49:38.620 --> 03:49:39.860 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The chair hears none. asr-003875 03:49:40.000 --> 03:49:41.660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The interpellations on the proposed budget asr-003876 03:49:41.660 --> 03:49:43.380 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: of the Department of Budget and Management asr-003877 03:49:43.380 --> 03:49:44.720 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby terminated. asr-003878 03:49:47.440 --> 03:49:48.260 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. asr-003879 03:49:53.520 --> 03:49:54.500 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, asr-003880 03:49:55.240 --> 03:49:56.340 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to... asr-003881 03:49:58.240 --> 03:49:59.860 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to suspend session for a few minutes. asr-003882 03:50:00.280 --> 03:50:01.100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is suspended. asr-003890 03:51:35.700 --> 03:51:36.420 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Session is resumed. asr-003891 03:51:37.040 --> 03:51:37.880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. asr-003892 03:51:38.380 --> 03:51:39.000 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Madam Speaker, asr-003893 03:51:39.100 --> 03:51:40.020 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: I move to recognize asr-003894 03:51:40.020 --> 03:51:41.280 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: the Honorable Sergio Dago. asr-003895 03:51:41.600 --> 03:51:42.900 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Honorable Dago asr-003896 03:51:42.900 --> 03:51:44.080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: is hereby recognized. asr-003897 03:51:45.180 --> 03:51:46.580 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-003898 03:51:47.480 --> 03:51:48.500 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Madam Speaker, asr-003899 03:51:48.660 --> 03:51:51.300 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: I move to withdraw asr-003900 03:51:51.300 --> 03:51:53.940 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: my previous motion asr-003901 03:51:53.940 --> 03:51:57.020 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: and amend the same. asr-003902 03:51:57.020 --> 03:51:57.100 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you. asr-003903 03:51:57.100 --> 03:51:58.580 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? asr-003904 03:51:58.900 --> 03:52:00.480 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. Please proceed. asr-003905 03:52:01.140 --> 03:52:02.320 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: Thank you, Madam Speaker. asr-003906 03:52:02.540 --> 03:52:20.040 Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc: So, I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the budget of DIPDIV and its attached agencies and corporations except the PSA. asr-003907 03:52:20.520 --> 03:52:21.920 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: What does the House say? asr-003908 03:52:21.920 --> 03:52:37.820 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except the PSA. asr-003909 03:52:37.820 --> 03:52:48.660 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation of the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except PSA. asr-003910 03:52:49.100 --> 03:52:50.180 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? asr-003911 03:52:50.820 --> 03:52:51.860 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. asr-003912 03:52:51.920 --> 03:53:01.300 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Interpellations on the proposed budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, including attached agencies and corporations, except the PSA, is hereby terminated. asr-003913 03:53:02.100 --> 03:53:02.720 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. asr-003914 03:53:03.060 --> 03:53:09.020 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend consideration of House Bill 10858. asr-003915 03:53:09.320 --> 03:53:10.240 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? asr-003916 03:53:10.680 --> 03:53:12.460 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. asr-003917 03:53:14.080 --> 03:53:15.100 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Majority Leader. asr-003918 03:53:18.540 --> 03:53:21.900 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session. asr-003919 03:53:21.920 --> 03:53:30.920 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: until September 16 at 10 a.m. asr-003920 03:53:30.920 --> 03:53:31.880 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: Is there any objection? asr-003921 03:53:31.880 --> 03:53:33.160 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The Chair hears none. asr-003922 03:53:33.260 --> 03:53:38.080 Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez: The session is suspended until September 16 at 10 o'clock in the morning.