FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 4 Part 2

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

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Mr. Speaker, I move that we consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

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Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and the officials of the Philippine Competition Commission,

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

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Chairperson Michael Aguinaldo, Commissioner Mara Victoria Querol, Commissioner Michael Peloton, Commissioner Lolibeth Medrano, Commissioner Ferdinand Negre. I so move, Mr. Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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To the heads of the Philippine Competition Commission headed by the Chairperson, the Honorable Michael G. Aguinaldo, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

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Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

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Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Dante Garcia, Vice Chair of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the budget of the Philippine Competition Commission.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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The Honorable Dante Garcia is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

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Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the honorable...

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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Mr. Speaker, to my esteemed colleague in the House of Representatives,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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I once again stand to sponsor the budget of an agency that is vital to the strength of our economy across various sectors,

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such as public procurement, telecommunications,

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communications, and agriculture.

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The Philippine Competition Commission, the PCC, implements the Philippine Competition Act

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by prohibiting anti-competitive agreements,

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abuse of dominant position, and anti-competitive mergers and acquisitions.

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This would turn, ensure that business compete and consumers benefit.

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Since we approved its budget in 2026, the PCC has ramped up its surveillance and investigative capabilities in procurement and bidding anomalies.

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Scrutinize mergers and acquisitions that may harm markets.

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Cast light on questionable business practices through economic research and increase...

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The business sector's understanding of competition law through advocacy and capacity-building activities.

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In terms of its surveillance and investigative mandate,

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the PCC has answered the nation's clamor to look into anomalous flood control projects.

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The PCC has referred to the Department of Justice its initial findings involving...

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bidrigging in flood control projects in Bulacan.

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Further, the PCC together with the NBI conducted a dawn raid

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covering premises associated with SunWest Incorporated,

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Eco Leisure and Hospitality Holdings Company, Inc.,

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where the PCC and NBI reasonably suspect that relevant documentary

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and electronic records related to the ongoing investigation were located.

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This decisive action underscores PCC's commitment to ensuring that business

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operate within the bounds of the Philippine Competition Act.

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In addition, the PCC has fined the Boracay Business Administration

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of Scuba Shops and 40 of its member dive shops,

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total of

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2.17 million for engaging in price-fixing on Boracay Island.

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Malay, Aklan, and directed BBASS and its member dive shops

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to cease and desist from enforcing the multi-year price-fixing agreement

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that harmed local tourism.

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The PCC has likewise reviewed 21 mergers and acquisitions

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with the transaction value that approximately

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515.6 billion pesos for any competition concerns

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for fiscal year 2026 to date.

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Across sectors such as energy and financial services,

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the PCC together with the DICT and NTC

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likewise finalized the implementation of rules and regulations

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of the Konektadong Pinoy Act,

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which aims to foster competition among

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data, transmission industry participants,

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and internet service providers.

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Lastly, given the importance of awareness and competition laws

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by the private sector and its regulators,

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the PCC continues to conduct advocacy and capacity-building activities.

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The PCC secured pledges from four of the biggest business organizations

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in the country, namely the Philippine Chamber of Commerce,

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The Philippine Retailers Association, the Pharmaceutical and Healthcare Association of the Philippines, and the Financial Executive Institute of the Philippines to uphold the provisions of the Philippine Competition Act.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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With a budget of P587.6 million, the PCC was able to achieve the aforementioned initiatives, as I believe that the PCC can do more with more resources to help the government protect public funds.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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While the overall national budget for 2027 sees a 6% increase, our specific request for the PCC is calibrated to address the complex challenges,

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we face across various sectors.

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This budget will enable us to significantly ramp up our surveillance and investigative capabilities,

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allowing us to proactively detect and dismantle cartels, anti-competitive conduct, and bidrigging schemes that prey on each Filipino.

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This budget will be used to bolster our enforcement arm,

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enhance our data

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analytics capabilities to identify suspicious bidding patterns,

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and strengthen our collaboration with other oversight agencies.

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We are here to assure this Chamber that the PCC is fully committed to protect the public purse from the predatory practices of anti-competitive behavior.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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I urge my colleagues to support this budget.

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As it is about for fair markets, for fiscal responsibility, and for more competitive, prosperous Philippines.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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Thank you, Honorable Garcia, Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

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Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list PHILRECA is recognized.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

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Please proceed.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor, my idol.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Cong Dante Garcia.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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My question is about the competition in Philippine renewable energy sector.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, good evening po sa atin lahat.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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PCC plays a crucial role in ensuring healthy competition in the energy sector.

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So I will start.

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Is it true that the PCC had already conducted a competition impact assessment?

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of the Green Energy Auction Program, or GEAP, with the DOE and ERC?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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Yes, the PCC conducted the study in 2025 and then conducted policy dialogue with the DOE and ERC last January and March of this year.

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The study examined whether specific features of the program may create or facilitate anti-competitive effects.

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in the renewable energy sector, and identified policy options to address potential competition concerns,

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including the role of the PCC in coordination with the DOE, ERC, and other relevant bodies.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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My follow-up question is, is it also true that the group had identified competition concerns

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involving the geographic segmentation of the green energy sector?

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the determination of Green Energy Auction Reserve, or GEAR, prices and the disclosure of price caps and conduct of pre-bid conferences, among others.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Can you share those competition concerns for the benefit of the body and the sector as a whole?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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The PCC's role is to primarily assess the competition effects of GEAP

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within the existing framework and recommend pro-competitive reforms to the agencies concerned,

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namely DOE and ERC.

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The study identified three potential competition concerns.

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First, the location-specific or per-grid auction design.

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Second is the consistency and transparency of GEAR price determination

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and the disclosure of auction-related information, particularly GEAR prices,

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and the conduct

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of pre-bid conferences.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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My next follow-up question, Mr. Speaker,

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Distinguished Sponsor, is this part

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of PCC's mandate to

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assess competition, risks,

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and recommend reforms

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to maintain a healthy competitive

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industry? So, what concrete

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changes has the PCC

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recommended to the ERC

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and DOE in making

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the GEAP process more competitive?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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As mentioned earlier,

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the PCC provided

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policy recommendations were

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based on its assessment

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of GEAP 1 and GEAP 2

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through the CIA.

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Findings and recommendations

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were discussed with the

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DOE last January

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2026, and

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ERC on March

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2026, through

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policy dialogue including

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their possible application

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to future GIA programs.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you,

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Mr. Speaker,

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Distinguished Sponsor. Now, I'm moving

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to another topic, the

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anti-competitive practices

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in fuel markets.

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Question,

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will still revolve around

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competition in the energy sector

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in April 2026?

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Amid

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substantial fuel price pressures,

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the PCC publicly

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stated that it was closely

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monitoring both the

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petroleum market and

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downstream markets for

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anti-competitive conduct.

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There are also calls from

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experts to examine

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possible cartel-like behavior

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and improve coordination

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in enforcing

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competition rules.

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My question to the good sponsor,

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Mr. Speaker,

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is this has the PCC

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move beyond

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monitoring and actually

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commence a formal investigation

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or

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motu proprio inquiry

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into the conduct of oil companies

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during that period?

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PCC is conducting

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a fuel study

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which aims to assess

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asymmetry in price adjustments.

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Example,

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When stations price increase rapidly with international prices but adjust slowly when this cost decrease, it also aims to look at price dispersion within a city and determine whether particular stations or brands show delayed rollback or remain persistently above local market prices.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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The study is ongoing pending data requests with fuel players and government agencies.

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PCC has started gathering and analyzing industry data to determine whether firm behavior during this time reflect a competitive environment or not.

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Specifically looking at how firms adjust prices with and without the supply shocks.

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PCC issued requests for information to key players in the industry, some of which have complied with the request.

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At present, the PCC is analyzing the industry data.

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The PCC is analyzing the data to determine whether the behavior of the key players indicate possible anti-competitive conduct.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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The PCC has received request data from the DOA today, September 18, 2026.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor, a few days ago, I have raised urgent concerns related to privacy risks in digital platforms.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Incidentally, I came across the information that PCC's market study on social media and search platform found that the Philippines' digital platform market is highly concentrated and identified the accumulation of user data as a potential source of market power.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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It specifically discussed Facebook and Google and observed that data advantages,

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network effects, and economies of scale may reinforce barriers to entry.

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What does the PCC intend to do with these findings beyond publishing the market study?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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The PCC has recommended incorporating data privacy considerations more explicitly into competition assessments.

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Studying data, portability, and interoperability.

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Strengthening coordination with privacy regulators and considering legislative measures to update the competition framework for data-driven markets.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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In 2024, the PCC received substantial resources for the capacity building to foster competition projects,

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but only 34% of the continuing...

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appropriation for the foreign-assisted project was obligated.

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Is that correct?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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Yes.

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We note that said amount is part of the continuing appropriation for the project released in 2023.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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At that time, PCC requested for the issuance of SARO amounting 104 million only.

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Equivalent to the loan proceeds downloaded by ADB, however,

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DBM issued 280 million instead.

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Which resulted to the excess resources.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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ADB's project data showed that as of June 23, 2026,

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cumulative contract awards were only 45% and cumulative loan disbursements were 41%

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and the loan has now been extended to June 30, 2028.

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Those figures are not identical to COA's

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fiscal year 2024 utilization ratios

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but they still indicate that the substantial portion of the project financing remained undisbursed.

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Before Congress provides additional appropriation,

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can the PCC give us its quarterly obligation and disbursement target for fiscal year 2027

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and identify exactly what activities will absorb these funds.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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The PCC can point to the loan extension, revised procurement, programming, additional project proposals, and strengthened monitoring as measures intended to accelerate implementation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And for my last question, how many pending antitrust or pending cases have been filed or are being reviewed by the Philippine Competition Commission?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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There are seven active cases ongoing, Your Honor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Can we divulge what those seven are, or will it be against the PCC's confidentiality clause?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia

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We will submit the complete data to you, Your Honor, for you to review.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

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Okay. Thank you. Because, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, you know the Philippine Competition Commission plays a big role, especially to those merging companies, no, para hindi ho tayo maiwanan sa ere at walang collusion, especially po pagdating sa fuel. As you know, malaki ang problema natin sa fuel ngayon, and I hope the PCC will take cognizance when it comes to energy sources. Again,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000215

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I always [unclear] for your budget for PCC for this year. Thank you very much.

00:21:24Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000216

Thank you, Honorable De Jesus, Majority Leader.

00:21:28Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000217

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal for his interpellation.

00:21:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000218

The Honorable Robert Nazal of Partylist BH is recognized. Please proceed.

00:21:39Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000219

Good evening, Mr. Chair.

00:21:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000220

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, may I ask the PCC, have you studied what happens when a major retailer is both the gatekeeper of the market and a competitor of suppliers selling inside its stores?

00:22:01Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000221

Yes.

00:22:05Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000223

Pinag-aaralan niyo po yan.

00:22:07Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000224

Yes.

00:22:08Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000225

Major retailers carry products made by independent suppliers.

00:22:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000226

But they may also develop their own private label products.

00:22:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000227

Sometimes products very similar to those already being successfully sold by their suppliers.

00:22:25Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000228

So there is nothing inherently illegal about private labels.

00:22:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000229

But the retailer knows what sells, controls the shelf, and counter space, controls inventory and promotions,

00:22:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000230

and then competes against the supplier with its own product.

00:22:47Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000231

Nangyayari po ito.

00:22:50Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000232

At what point does this become a competition concern?

00:22:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000233

Or when does it become?

00:22:56Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000234

Inaanalyze po ba natin when it becomes predatory in practice?

00:23:24Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000240

The PCC is closely monitoring that's happening and a thorough investigation will be conducted.

00:23:32Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000241

Meron na po ba kayong nakitang mga ganito? And were there complaints, for example, that were filed with the PCC that was actually investigated upon?

00:23:42Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000242

There were minor complaints.

00:23:44Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000243

And what intervention, Mr. Chair and distinguished colleague, ang ginawa po ng PCC?

00:23:52Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000244

There were minor complaints but it was given an attention and it was informed to the manufacturer.

00:24:04Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000245

So, meron po ba tayong portal na pwedeng magreklamo ang, let's say, SMEs?

00:24:10Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000246

We can use the website.

00:24:12Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000247

Of the PCC and the social media.

00:24:16Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000248

And is it very easy to file a complaint? And once an SME, for example, files a complaint against any predatory practice, ganong katagal ang response time?

00:24:35Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000249

Yes, pwedeng madali ang mag-file ng complaint kasi pwede sa online at sa Facebook page ng PCC.

00:24:42Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000250

Kaya ganon, kadali ang pag-file, may investigation kagad.

00:24:47Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000251

Mr. Chair, distinguished colleague, let me give a practical example.

00:24:52Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000252

Kung may independent brand na successful, then the retailer comes out with a very similar own brand product at a lower price.

00:25:02Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000253

Tapos yung sariling brand niya, prominently displayed and readily available sa counter.

00:25:07Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000254

While yung competing product, wala doon, kailangan magbayad.

00:25:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000255

Tapos yung staff, kailangan pang umalas para kunin.

00:25:16Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000256

The retailer controls both the competition and the playing field.

00:25:20Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000257

Does the PCC examine practices like this?

00:25:27Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000258

Yes, yes.

00:25:31Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000259

That's called self-preferencing.

00:25:36Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000260

And ano pong actions ang pwede natin gawin in case meron tayong nahuhuling ganito?

00:25:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000261

What intervention can the PCC do in behalf of those experiencing predatory practices?

00:25:52Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000262

The PCC can file a case against the retailer.

00:26:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000263

What if the retailer po is a giant?

00:26:11Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000264

Malakas, ha?

00:26:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000265

And pwede po niyang balikan kasi yung halimbawa, pwede niyang balikan yung SME.

00:26:19Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000266

And if there are only a few retailers in the country, paano po ang mangyayari kung ang gagawin niya,

00:26:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000267

ang magiging balik niya doon sa nagreklamo, ay ibabanan niya sa shelf?

00:26:33Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000268

The PCC is mandated. May mandato ang PCC na kahit malaking tao man lang, kahit gaano kalaki, pwedeng sagasaan.

00:26:41Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000269

And the PCC?

00:26:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000270

The PCC guarantees that it can protect small players against practices such as this.

00:26:48Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000271

Definitely.

00:26:48Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000272

Thank you for that, Mr. Chair, distinguished sponsor.

00:26:54Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000273

Mr. Chair, has PCC ever conducted a market study comparing how major retailers treat their own private label products versus competing independent brands?

00:27:07Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000274

In shelf and counter placement, inventory availability,

00:27:11Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000275

promotion,

00:27:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000276

access to sales data,

00:27:15Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000277

pricing,

00:27:16Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000278

supplier fees,

00:27:17Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000279

payment terms,

00:27:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000280

and other conditions.

00:27:20Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000281

Because ang concern po natin is not simply that they copied the product or made something cheaper.

00:27:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000282

The concern is whether a powerful retailer can identify a successful product from one of its suppliers,

00:27:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000283

introduce its own competing version,

00:27:36Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000284

and then use its control of the retail channel to give its own product.

00:27:42Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000285

An unfair advantage, and eventually squeeze the independent supplier out.

00:27:48Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000286

Does our present competition framework adequately protect against that?

00:27:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000287

Thank you very much.

00:27:57Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000288

Wala pang public study, but we had compelled a very big retailer to be fair.

00:28:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000289

So ano pong kailangan na?

00:28:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000290

Is there anything you need, for example, from Congress in terms of amending your charter, strengthening it?

00:28:19Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000291

Meron po ba tayo naiisip na mga pwede natin baguhin para po palakasin at bigyan ng pangil ang Philippine Competition Commission

00:28:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000292

para po lalo natin maprotektahan ang ating mga maliliit na nag-uumpisang maghanap buhay?

00:28:39Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000297

There is a pending bill on the committee.

00:28:42Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000298

On economic affairs, I think.

00:28:46Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000299

And the PCC is closely working with the committee.

00:28:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000300

I would like to co-author that, Mr. Chair, and the distinguished sponsor.

00:28:56Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000301

Mr. Chair, is PCC looking at the same gatekeeper problem in online platforms

00:29:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000302

where the operator of the marketplace may also sell or promote products that compete with merchants

00:29:09Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000303

dependent on that marketplace?

00:29:12Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000304

What safeguards does PCC consider necessary when the platform or retailer controls both

00:29:19Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000305

access to customer and the competitive environment?

00:29:22Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000306

Para sa online naman po ito, distinguished sponsor.

00:29:29Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000307

Yes, we are looking to it.

00:29:34Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000308

And in terms of safeguarding the…

00:29:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000318

[unclear]

00:30:02Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000323

We are closely monitoring the market, and if there is a violation, we are bound to file a complaint.

00:30:18Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000324

Kaya ako po tinatanong ito, Distinguished Sponsor, Mr. Speaker. Kasi po, ang napansin ko, noon, lalo na nung pandemic, naging advantage po ngayon yung online retailers.

00:30:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000325

So yung online platforms were helping yung ating maliliit na negosyante. Parang ang lumalabas ngayon, yung ating mga retailers, giant retailers,

00:30:46Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000326

tsaka yung online at digital platforms are already charging, if not the same, yung ating digital platforms are charging even more.

00:30:57Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000327

And ang gusto ko po sanang alamin is kung natitignan po natin yung charges na sinisingil nila.

00:31:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000328

Kasi if you will ask and do conduct a study or maybe an online survey, tanungin nyo po yung mga nagbibenta online.

00:31:14Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000329

The digital platforms are now charging maybe up to 60%.

00:31:20Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000330

And parang ang nangyayari, kung 100 pesos yung binibenta mo, 60 pesos na yung kinukuha nila, minsan 70 pesos pa.

00:31:29Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000331

So ang matitira sa'yo, 30 pesos, kukunin mo pa dun yung cost mo.

00:31:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000332

So my concern is the PCC looking into that. Kasi po, dapat ho, I think it's about time that we monitor this.

00:31:43Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000333

Kasi kung ano-anong charges ang nilalagay nila.

00:31:49Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000334

We have looked into the digital platforms but not into that specific issue but we will see it now.

00:31:56Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000335

Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor.

00:31:58Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000336

Mr. Chair, Distinguished Sponsor, have you also studied the competition implications when a conglomerate owns both a bank and businesses in sectors heavily dependent on financing such as real estate?

00:32:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000337

Even if related party lending complies with banking regulations, can preferential access to financing reinforce market power in the conglomerate's non-banking business?

00:32:26Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000338

And has PCC studied this as a structural competition issue?

00:32:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000339

Ang tinatanong ko po ay yung possible whether PCC studies cross-sector competitive effects.

00:32:43Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000340

Yes, we have.

00:32:45Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000341

So you're already looking into that, Mr. Chair?

00:32:49Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000342

Mr. Distinguished Sponsor, the PCC?

00:32:51Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000343

Yes, we have.

00:32:53Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000344

So meron na po ba kayong nakita na, for example, industry na because of this, nagkakaroon ng unfair advantage?

00:33:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000345

And if this is so, what is the, ano po ang gagawin ng PCC in order to help level the playing field?

00:33:13Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000346

So far, wala pang nakikitang ganyan. Pero pag meron, rest assured na maaksyonan kagalit.

00:33:20Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000347

So baka po pwede natin tignan, maybe we can use AI to look into this kung ano po yung mga possible effects.

00:33:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000348

Kasi siyempre, magkakaroon po ng unfair advantage, di ba?

00:33:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000349

Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair, Distinguished Colleague, the PCC's proposed 2027 budget is approximately 832 million.

00:33:43Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000350

Including funding for competition, capacity building.

00:33:48Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000351

What concrete sector reviews and enforcement milestones will this funding deliver?

00:33:55Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000352

Particularly for retail, digital platforms, and other highly concentrated markets.

00:34:01Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000353

Will the PCC use its own investigative authority proactively rather than require small businesses to initiate every case?

00:34:10Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000354

So ang tinatanong po natin is,

00:34:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000355

mag-aantay pa po ba tayo ng mga complaint bago tayong makagalaw?

00:34:20Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000356

Or will we proactively seek measures which will protect small businesses?

00:34:37Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000357

We actively monitor the social medias.

00:34:43Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000358

And any complaint, and we will immediately act on this matter.

00:34:49Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000359

May I request for a plan?

00:34:52Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000360

Kung ano, how do you intend to spend the 832 million?

00:34:57Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000361

And ano po yung safeguards na pwede na, safeguards that you plan to impose?

00:35:07Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000362

Plan sector studies, measurable outputs.

00:35:11Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000363

And how SMEs?

00:35:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000364

And suppliers can safely provide market information without fear of commercial retaliation?

00:35:20Source

Rep. Dante S. Garcia

asr-000365

Yes, Your Honor, we will provide you a copy.

00:35:28Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000366

So, I'm, that's all for all, para sa mga tanong ko.

00:35:34Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000367

Maraming salamat sa PCC.

00:35:35Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000368

And I hope the PCC will proactively craft,

00:35:43Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000369

proactively craft measures na makakatulong po at makakaprotekta po sa ating maliliit na naghahanap buhay.

00:35:51Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000370

Maraming salamat po.

00:35:53Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000371

Thank you, Honorable Nazal.

00:35:55Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000372

In behalf of the minority, I would like to terminate.

00:36:00Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000373

Tama ba?

00:36:03Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000375

I move.

00:36:04Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000376

I sorry, I move to terminate.

00:36:07Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000377

The period of sponsorship.

00:36:11Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000378

And amendment for the PCC.

00:36:13Source

Rep. Roberto Nazal

asr-000379

PCC, for the, for the budget of the PCC.

00:36:17Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000380

What does the House say?

00:36:20Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-000381

Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion of terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the PCC.

00:36:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000383

There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission.

00:36:43Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000384

Is there any objection?

00:36:44Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000385

The chair hears none.

00:36:47Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000386

The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission is hereby terminated.

00:36:55Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000387

Majority leader.

00:37:04Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000388

Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

00:37:08Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000389

Session is suspended.

00:38:59Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000399

Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

00:39:04Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000399-split-2

Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City,

00:39:11Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000400

La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba and Tublay Development Authority.

00:39:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000400-split-2

Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

00:39:24Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000400-split-3

Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Metropolitan Baguio City, Assistant Secretary Maria Monica C. Costales, and Director Mary Gail Antonia Kila.

00:39:43Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000401

To the family of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority,

00:39:52Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000402

represented by the Honorable ASEC, Maria Monica C. Costales, Ph.D.,

00:39:57Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000403

welcome to the House of Representatives.

00:40:00Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000404

Majority Leader.

00:40:02Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000405

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable

00:40:12Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000406

Vice Chairman Maria Angela Garcia of the Committee on Appropriations

00:40:17Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000407

to sponsor the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority.

00:40:25Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000408

The Honorable Vice Chair, Maria Angela Garcia of the Province of Bataan is recognized.

00:40:32Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000409

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

00:40:34Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000410

On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations, I have the privilege of sponsoring the Fiscal Year 2027

00:40:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000411

budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority, or MBLISDA.

00:40:54Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000412

Together with ASEC, Maria Monica C. Costales, and the MBLISDA family, we are ready to answer questions during this interpellation.

00:41:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000413

Thank you Honorable Garcia. Majority Leader.

00:41:11Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000414

Thank you.

00:41:11Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000415

Mr. Speaker, I move

00:41:13Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000423

that we recognize

00:41:14Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000424

Representative Presley De Jesus

00:41:18Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000425

from

00:41:19Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000426

PHILRECA Party-list

00:41:21Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000427

for his interpellation.

00:41:24Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000428

The Honorable Presley De Jesus

00:41:25Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000429

of Party-list PHILRECA,

00:41:27Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000430

is recognized.

00:41:28Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000431

Please proceed.

00:41:29Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000432

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:41:33Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000433

And to the distinguished sponsor,

00:41:36Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000434

Mr. Speaker,

00:41:37Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000435

there being no more members

00:41:39Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000436

of the minority

00:41:40Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000437

who wishes to interpellate,

00:41:42Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000438

I move to terminate

00:41:43Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000439

the sponsorship

00:41:44Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000440

and debate

00:41:45Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000441

for the budget

00:41:46Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000442

of Metropolitan,

00:41:48Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000443

Baguio City,

00:41:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000444

La Trinidad,

00:41:50Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000445

Itogon,

00:41:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000446

Sablan,

00:41:52Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000447

Tuba,

00:41:53Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000448

and Tublay Development Authority.

00:41:56Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000449

I so move,

00:41:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000450

Mr. Speaker.

00:41:58Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000451

What does the House say?

00:41:59Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000452

Majority Leader?

00:42:01Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000453

Mr. Speaker,

00:42:01Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000454

on the part of the majority,

00:42:03Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000455

we join the minority

00:42:04Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000456

in the motion

00:42:05Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000457

to terminate the period

00:42:06Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000458

of interpellation

00:42:07Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000459

on the proposed budget.

00:42:09Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000460

There is a joint motion

00:42:11Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000461

to terminate

00:42:12Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000462

the interpellations

00:42:13Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000463

on the proposed budget

00:42:15Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000464

of the Metropolitan,

00:42:16Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000465

Baguio City,

00:42:17Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000466

La Trinidad,

00:42:18Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000467

Itogon,

00:42:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000468

Sablan,

00:42:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000469

Tuba,

00:42:20Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000470

and Tublay Development Authority.

00:42:23Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000471

Is there any objection?

00:42:25Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000472

The Chair hears none.

00:42:27Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000473

The interpellation

00:42:28Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000474

of the proposed budget

00:42:29Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000475

of Metropolitan,

00:42:31Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000476

Baguio City,

00:42:32Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000477

La Trinidad,

00:42:32Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000478

Itogon,

00:42:33Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000479

Sablan,

00:42:33Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000480

Tuba,

00:42:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000481

and Tublay Development Authority

00:42:36Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000482

is hereby terminated.

00:42:38Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000483

Congratulations.

00:42:39Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000484

Majority Leader.

00:43:11Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000485

Mr. Speaker,

00:43:13Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000486

I move to consider

00:43:14Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000487

the proposed budget

00:43:15Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000488

of the Authority

00:43:16Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000489

of the Freeport Area

00:43:17Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000490

of Bataan.

00:43:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000491

Is there any objection?

00:43:21Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000492

The Chair hears none.

00:43:22Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000493

Motion is approved.

00:43:23Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000494

Majority Leader.

00:43:26Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000495

Mr. Speaker,

00:43:27Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000496

I move that we

00:43:28Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000497

acknowledge the heads

00:43:30Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000498

and the officials

00:43:30Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000499

of the Authority

00:43:31Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000500

of Freeport Area Bataan,

00:43:34Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000501

Administrator and CEO

00:43:36Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000502

Muhammad Hussein Pangandaman,

00:43:39Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000503

Deputy Administrator

00:43:40Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000504

for Support Services,

00:43:42Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000505

Maria Lourdes Herrera,

00:43:44Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000506

Deputy Administrator

00:43:45Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000507

for Operations,

00:43:47Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000508

Michael Angelo Padiraga.

00:43:51Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000509

So move, Mr. Speaker.

00:43:53Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000510

To the family

00:43:54Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000511

of the Authority

00:43:55Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000512

of the Freeport Area of Bataan,

00:43:57Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000513

led by Administrator

00:43:58Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000514

and Chief Executive Officer,

00:44:00Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000515

Muhammad Hussein P. Pangandaman,

00:44:03Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000516

welcome to the House

00:44:04Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000517

of Representatives.

00:44:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000518

Majority Leader.

00:44:06Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000519

Mr. Speaker,

00:44:07Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000520

I move that we recognize

00:44:09Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000521

the Honorable Maria Angela

00:44:12Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000522

Garcia,

00:44:13Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000523

Vice Chairperson

00:44:14Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000524

of the Committee

00:44:14Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000525

on Appropriations

00:44:15Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000526

to sponsor the proposed

00:44:17Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000527

budget of the Authority

00:44:18Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000528

of the Freeport Area

00:44:19Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000529

of Bataan.

00:44:20Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000530

The Honorable Vice Chairperson

00:44:22Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000531

of the Committee

00:44:23Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000532

on Appropriations,

00:44:25Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000533

Maria Angela Garcia,

00:44:27Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000534

is recognized.

00:44:27Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000535

Please proceed.

00:44:29Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000536

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:44:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000537

On behalf of the Committee

00:44:32Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000538

on Appropriations,

00:44:34Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000539

I have the privilege

00:44:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000540

of sponsoring

00:44:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000541

the proposed

00:44:37Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000542

fiscal year 2027 budget

00:44:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000543

of the Authority

00:44:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000544

of the Freeport Area of Bataan.

00:44:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000550

Together with Administrator

00:44:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000551

Muhammad Hussein P. Pangandaman

00:44:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000552

and the AFAB family,

00:44:49Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000553

we are ready to answer questions

00:44:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000554

during this interpellation.

00:44:53Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000555

Thank you, Honorable Garcia.

00:44:55Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000556

Majority Leader.

00:44:56Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000557

Mr. Speaker,

00:44:57Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000558

I move that we recognize

00:44:58Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000559

the Honorable Presley

00:44:59Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000560

De Jesus

00:45:00Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000561

for his interpellation.

00:45:01Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000562

The Honorable Representative

00:45:04Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000563

Presley De Jesus of Party-list

00:45:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000564

PHILRECA is recognized. Please proceed.

00:45:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000565

Mr. Speaker,

00:45:11Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000566

Distinguished Sponsor,

00:45:13Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000567

there being no more

00:45:14Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000568

members of the minority

00:45:16Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000569

who wishes to

00:45:18Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000570

interpellate, I move

00:45:20Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000571

to terminate the sponsorship

00:45:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000572

and debate for the budget

00:45:23Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000573

of authority of the

00:45:25Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000574

Freeport Area of Bataan.

00:45:27Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000575

I so move,

00:45:30Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000576

Mr. Speaker.

00:45:32Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000577

What does the House say?

00:45:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000578

Majority Leader?

00:45:35Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000579

Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority,

00:45:38Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000580

we join the minority in the motion

00:45:39Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000581

to terminate the period of interpellations

00:45:41Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000582

on the proposed budget of the authority

00:45:43Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000583

of the Freeport Area of Bataan.

00:45:46Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000584

There is a joint motion to terminate

00:45:48Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000585

the interpellations on the proposed budget

00:45:50Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000586

of the Authority of the Freeport

00:45:52Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000587

area of Bataan.

00:45:53Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000588

Is there any objection?

00:45:55Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000589

The Chair hears none.

00:45:57Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000590

The interpellations on

00:45:57Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000591

the proposed budget of the authority

00:46:00Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000592

of the Freeport Area of Bataan

00:46:01Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000593

is hereby terminated.

00:46:04Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000594

Congratulations.

00:46:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000595

Majority Leader.

00:46:07Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000596

Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget

00:46:10Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000597

of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

00:46:13Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000598

Is there any objection?

00:46:15Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000599

The Chair hears none.

00:46:17Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000600

Motion is approved.

00:46:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000601

Majority Leader.

00:46:20Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000602

Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge

00:46:22Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000603

the heads and officials

00:46:23Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000604

of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority,

00:46:27Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000605

namely,

00:46:27Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000606

the Administrator and CEO,

00:46:30Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000607

Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile,

00:46:32Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000608

and Deputy Administrator

00:46:35Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000609

for Support Services,

00:46:37Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000610

Perla C. Tumaliuan.

00:46:41Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000611

To the family

00:46:42Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000612

of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority,

00:46:45Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000613

headed by Administrator

00:46:47Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000614

and Chief Executive Officer,

00:46:49Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000615

Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile,

00:46:52Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000616

welcome to the House of Representatives.

00:46:55Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000617

Majority Leader.

00:46:56Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000618

Mr. Speaker,

00:46:57Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000619

I move

00:46:57Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000620

that we recognize

00:46:58Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000621

the Honorable Vice Chair,

00:47:02Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000622

Maria Angela Garcia,

00:47:05Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000623

of the Committee

00:47:06Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000624

of Appropriations

00:47:09Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000625

to sponsor the proposed budget

00:47:10Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000626

of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

00:47:14Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000627

The Honorable Vice Chairperson

00:47:16Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000628

of the Appropriations Committee,

00:47:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000629

Representative Maria Angela Garcia,

00:47:22Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000630

is recognized.

00:47:23Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000631

Please proceed.

00:47:24Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000632

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:47:25Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000633

On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations,

00:47:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000634

I have the privilege of sponsoring

00:47:30Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000635

the Fiscal Year 2027 Budget

00:47:33Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000636

of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

00:47:37Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000637

Together with Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile

00:47:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000638

and the CEZA family,

00:47:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000639

we are ready to answer questions

00:47:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-000640

during this interpellation.

00:47:46Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000641

Thank you, Honorable Garcia.

00:47:48Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000642

Majority Leader.

00:47:49Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000643

Mr. Speaker,

00:47:50Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000644

I move that we recognize

00:47:52Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000645

the Honorable Presley De Jesus.

00:47:56Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000646

The Honorable Presley De Jesus,

00:47:58Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000650

is recognized.

00:47:59Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000651

Please proceed.

00:48:01Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000652

Mr. Speaker,

00:48:03Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000653

there being no more members

00:48:04Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000654

of the minority

00:48:06Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000655

who wishes to interpellate.

00:48:08Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000656

I move to terminate the sponsorship

00:48:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000657

and debate for the budget

00:48:12Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000658

of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

00:48:15Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000659

I so move, Mr. Speaker.

00:48:17Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000660

What does the House say?

00:48:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000661

Majority Leader.

00:48:19Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000662

Mr. Speaker,

00:48:20Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000663

on the part of the majority,

00:48:22Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000664

we join the minority in the motion

00:48:23Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000665

to terminate the period of interpellations

00:48:26Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000666

on the proposed budget

00:48:31Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000667

of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

00:48:33Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000668

There is a joint motion

00:48:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000669

to terminate the interpellations

00:48:36Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000670

on the proposed budget

00:48:37Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000671

of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

00:48:41Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000672

Is there any objection?

00:48:43Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000673

The chair hears none.

00:48:44Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000674

The interpellations

00:48:45Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000675

on the proposed budget

00:48:46Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000676

of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority

00:48:49Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000677

is hereby terminated.

00:48:51Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000678

Congratulations.

00:48:53Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000679

Majority Leader.

00:48:54Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000680

Mr. Speaker,

00:48:55Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000681

I move to consider

00:48:56Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000682

the proposed budget

00:48:57Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000683

of the...

00:48:57Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000684

the Zamboanga City

00:48:58Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000685

Special Economic Zone Authority.

00:49:01Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000686

Is there any objection?

00:49:03Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000687

The Chair hears none.

00:49:04Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000688

Motion is approved.

00:49:06Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000689

Majority Leader.

00:49:08Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000690

Mr. Speaker,

00:49:09Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000691

may we acknowledge

00:49:09Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000692

the heads and the officials

00:49:11Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000693

of the Zamboanga City

00:49:13Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000694

Special Economic Zone Authority,

00:49:15Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000695

Chairman and Administrator

00:49:17Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000696

Raul Regondola,

00:49:19Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000697

Board Member Rey Bayoging,

00:49:22Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000698

Deputy Administrator

00:49:23Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000699

Planning and Operations

00:49:24Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000700

Reynold Pareja,

00:49:26Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000701

OIC Deputy Administrator

00:49:27Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000702

for the Support Services,

00:49:29Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000703

Ronald Aca-ac,

00:49:32Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000704

OIC Department Manager

00:49:34Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000705

for Finance,

00:49:35Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000706

Bennett Mandiadi.

00:49:37Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000707

I so move, Mr. Speaker.

00:49:39Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000708

To the family of the Zamboanga

00:49:41Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000709

City Special Economic Zone Authority,

00:49:44Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000710

headed by Chairman and Administrator

00:49:46Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000711

Raul M. Regondola,

00:49:49Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000712

welcome to the House

00:49:50Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000713

of Representatives.

00:49:51Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000714

Majority Leader.

00:49:52Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000715

Mr. Speaker,

00:49:53Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000716

I move that we recognize

00:49:54Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000717

the honorable

00:49:55Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000718

Bella Vanessa Suansing,

00:49:57Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000719

Vice Chairperson of the

00:49:59Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000720

Committee on Appropriations

00:50:00Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000721

to sponsor the proposed

00:50:01Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000722

budget of the Zamboanga City

00:50:03Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000723

Special Economic Zone Authority.

00:50:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000724

The Honorable Bella Suansing

00:50:07Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000725

is recognized.

00:50:08Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000726

Please proceed.

00:50:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000727

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:50:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000728

This presentation is ready

00:50:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000729

to answer questions regarding

00:50:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000730

the proposed budget of

00:50:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000731

Zamboanga City Special Economic

00:50:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000732

Zone Authority in Freeport.

00:50:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000733

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:50:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000734

Thank you, Honorable Suansing.

00:50:21Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000735

Majority Leader.

00:50:22Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000736

Mr. Speaker,

00:50:22Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000737

I move that we recognize

00:50:23Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000738

the Honorable Presley De Jesus.

00:50:26Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000739

The Honorable

00:50:27Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000740

Presley C. De Jesus

00:50:29Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000741

of Party-list PHILRECA

00:50:30Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000742

is recognized.

00:50:31Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000743

Please proceed.

00:50:32Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000744

Mr. Speaker,

00:50:34Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000745

there being no more

00:50:35Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000746

members of the minority

00:50:37Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000747

who wishes to interpolate,

00:50:39Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000748

I move to terminate

00:50:40Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000749

the sponsorship

00:50:41Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000750

and debate

00:50:42Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000751

for the budget

00:50:43Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000752

of Zamboanga City

00:50:44Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000753

Special Economic Zone Authority.

00:50:46Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000754

I so move,

00:50:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000755

Mr. Speaker.

00:50:48Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000756

What does the House say?

00:50:49Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000757

Majority Leader.

00:50:50Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000758

Mr. Speaker,

00:50:51Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000759

on the part of the majority,

00:50:53Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000760

we join the minority

00:50:54Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000761

in the motion

00:50:55Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000762

to terminate the period

00:50:56Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000763

of interpellations

00:50:57Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000764

on the proposed budget

00:50:58Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000765

of the Zamboanga City

00:50:59Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000766

Special Economic Zone Authority.

00:51:02Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000767

There is a joint motion

00:51:03Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000768

to terminate the interpellations

00:51:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000769

on the proposed budget

00:51:07Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000770

of the Zamboanga City

00:51:08Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000771

Special Economic Zone Authority.

00:51:11Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000772

Is there any objection?

00:51:12Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000773

The Chair hears none.

00:51:13Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000774

Motion is approved.

00:51:15Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000775

The interpellations

00:51:17Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000776

on the proposed budget

00:51:18Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000777

of Zamboanga City

00:51:20Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000778

Special Economic Zone Authority

00:51:22Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000779

is hereby terminated.

00:51:24Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000780

Majority Leader.

00:51:25Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000781

Mr. Speaker,

00:51:26Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000782

I move to consider

00:51:28Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000783

the proposed budget

00:51:29Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000784

of the Southern Philippines

00:51:30Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000785

Development Authority.

00:51:32Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000786

Is there any objection?

00:51:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000787

The Chair hears none.

00:51:35Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000788

Motion is approved.

00:51:36Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000789

Majority Leader.

00:51:38Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000790

Mr. Speaker,

00:51:39Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000791

may we acknowledge

00:51:40Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000792

the heads and officials

00:51:41Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000793

of the Southern Philippines

00:51:43Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000794

Development Authority,

00:51:45Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000795

Vice Chairman

00:51:51Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000796

Honorable Ahmad Tumawis,

00:51:55Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000797

and Mr. Agakhan Tumawis.

00:51:59Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000798

To the family

00:52:00Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000799

of the Southern Philippines

00:52:01Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000800

Development Authority,

00:52:03Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000801

headed by Administrator

00:52:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000802

and Chief Executive Officer,

00:52:07Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000803

the Honorable Ahmad M. Tumawis,

00:52:10Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000804

welcome to the House

00:52:11Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000805

of Representatives.

00:52:12Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000806

Majority Leader.

00:52:14Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000807

Mr. Speaker,

00:52:15Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000808

I move that we recognize

00:52:16Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000809

the Honorable Vice Chair

00:52:20Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000810

Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

00:52:23Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000811

of the Committee

00:52:24Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000812

on Appropriation

00:52:25Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000813

to sponsor the proposed budget

00:52:26Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000814

of the Southern Philippines

00:52:27Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000815

Development Authority.

00:52:29Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000816

The Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing

00:52:31Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000817

is recognized.

00:52:33Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000818

Please proceed.

00:52:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000819

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:52:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000820

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:52:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000821

This representation is ready

00:52:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000822

to answer questions

00:52:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000823

regarding the proposed budget

00:52:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000824

of the Southern Philippines

00:52:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000825

Development Authority.

00:52:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000826

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:52:43Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000827

Thank you,

00:52:44Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000828

Honorable Swansing.

00:52:45Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000829

Majority Leader.

00:52:46Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000830

Mr. Speaker,

00:52:47Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000831

I move that we recognize

00:52:49Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000832

the Honorable Presley De Jesus

00:52:55Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000833

The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list

00:52:58Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000834

PHILRECA,

00:52:59Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000835

is recognized.

00:53:00Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000836

Please proceed.

00:53:01Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000837

Mr. Speaker,

00:53:03Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000838

there being no more members

00:53:04Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000839

of the minority

00:53:05Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000840

who wishes to interpolate,

00:53:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000841

I move to terminate

00:53:09Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000842

the sponsorship

00:53:09Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000843

and debate

00:53:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000844

for the budget

00:53:11Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000845

of Southern Philippines

00:53:13Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000846

Development Authority.

00:53:16Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000847

I so move,

00:53:17Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000848

Mr. Speaker.

00:53:18Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000849

What does the House say?

00:53:19Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000850

Majority Leader.

00:53:20Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000860

Mr. Speaker,

00:53:21Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000861

on the part

00:53:22Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000862

of the majority,

00:53:23Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000863

we join the minority

00:53:24Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000864

in the motion

00:53:25Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000865

to terminate

00:53:26Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000866

the period of interpellations

00:53:27Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000867

on the proposed budget

00:53:28Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000868

of the Southern Philippines

00:53:31Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-000869

Development Authority.

00:53:32Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000870

There is

00:53:33Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000871

a joint motion

00:53:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000872

to terminate

00:53:35Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000873

the interpellations

00:53:36Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000874

in the proposed budget

00:53:37Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000875

of the Southern Philippines

00:53:38Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000876

Development Authority.

00:53:39Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000877

Is there any objection?

00:53:41Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000878

The Chair hears none.

00:53:43Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000879

Motion is approved.

00:53:44Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000880

The interpellations

00:53:45Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000881

and the proposed budget

00:53:46Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000882

of Southern Philippines

00:53:48Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000883

Development Authority

00:53:49Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000884

is hereby terminated.

00:53:51Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000885

Congratulations.

00:53:52Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000886

Majority Leader.

00:53:53Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000887

Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCC.

00:54:00Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000888

Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. Majority Leader.

00:54:06Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000889

Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and the officials of the Governance Commission for GOCC's Chairman Marius Corpus, Commissioner Brian Hosaka, Commissioner Geraldine Marie Martinez.

00:54:20Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000890

To the family of the Governance Commission for GOCC's, headed by Chairperson Marius P. Corpus, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

00:54:36Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000891

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations to sponsor the budget of the Governance Commission for GOCC's.

00:54:49Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000892

The Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing.

00:54:52Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000893

is recognized. Please proceed.

00:54:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000894

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This representation is ready to answer questions regarding the proposed budget of the Governance Commission on GOCC's. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:55:03Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000895

Thank you, Honorable Suansing. Majority Leader.

00:55:07Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000896

Mr. Speaker.

00:55:27Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000897

Mr. Speaker, I move that we suspend session for a few minutes.

00:55:30Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000898

Session is suspended.

00:55:57Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000899

Session is resumed.

00:55:59Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000900

Majority Leader.

00:56:01Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-000901

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation.

00:56:09Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-000902

The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Partilis, Felrica is recognized. Please proceed.

00:56:14Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000903

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, good evening.

00:56:18Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000904

Earlier this year, DBM issued Corporate Budget Memorandum No. 48 for the Fiscal Year 2027 Corporate Budget Call.

00:56:28Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000905

Under the policy, it was stated that the DBM should not be involved in corporate budget calls.

00:56:31Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000906

Under the policy, it was stated that a GOCC receiving 60% or more its funding from national government subsidies for the past 10 consecutive years is automatically flagged for mandatory institutional review for GOCCs covered by Republic Act No. 10149.

00:56:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000907

That review is to be conducted by GCG. Is this correct, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

00:56:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000908

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

00:57:01Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000909

And my follow-up question, then under those parameters, how many GOCCs under GCG's jurisdiction currently meet the 60% subsidy for 10 years threshold?

00:57:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000910

The study is ongoing regarding the number, Mr. Speaker.

00:57:22Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000911

Are we talking about 2026?

00:57:28Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000912

Or 2025, I mean? I'm sorry.

00:57:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000914

The GCG is just checking their records, Mr. Speaker.

00:58:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000916

...

00:58:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000917

The GCG will just submit the list of GOCCs that satisfy their requirement, Mr. Speaker.

00:58:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000918

That's okay with my distinguished colleague.

00:58:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000919

Fair enough, Mr. Speaker.

00:58:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000920

I gladly accept that.

00:58:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000921

My next question,

00:58:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000922

have institutional reviews which are now mandated already commenced?

00:59:01Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000923

For every one of those GOCCs.

00:59:03Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000924

If not, what the timetables are we looking at?

00:59:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000925

Regarding the monitoring and evaluation of GOCCs, Mr. Speaker, the GCG currently conducts three.

00:59:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000926

Yes, three.

00:59:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000927

There's the performance evaluation system for GOCCs, and then there's the performance evaluation for directors in the GOCC sector.

00:59:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000928

And then the GCG also produces corporate governance scorecards.

00:59:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000929

But as per the finalization of the reports for fiscal year 2020,

01:00:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000930

the GCG is dependent on the submission of COA financial statement.

01:00:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000931

So as of now, review is still currently ongoing, Mr. Speaker.

01:00:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000932

So do we expect that later this year or it's going to be next year?

01:00:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000933

Yes, later in this year, Mr. Speaker.

01:00:18Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000934

How many directors are, as you mentioned, that under review?

01:00:22Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000935

How many of them?

01:00:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000936

For, Mr. Speaker, for clarification, director, total directors for all the GOCCs that are being reviewed, total.

01:00:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000937

We're pulling up the actual number.

01:01:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000940

So estimated around, approximately around 500 directors, Mr. Speaker.

01:01:04Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000941

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

01:01:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000942

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, could the good sponsor provide the following information for the consideration of this body?

01:01:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000943

The amount of national government support received by these GOCCs during the past 10 years, its performance, scorecard results,

01:01:29Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000944

and the current status of GCG's institutional review.

01:01:36Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000945

It's important because the new DBM policy says they are now subject to mandatory institutional review to be conducted by GCG.

01:01:48Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000946

Kasi po, meron na pong DBM policy na bago ngayon.

01:01:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000947

Yes, Mr. Speaker, just to clarify, the first would be the amount of government support received by the GOCCs.

01:01:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000948

What's the second one, Mr. Speaker?

01:02:02Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000949

No, that's the question because I'm just interjecting that there's a new DBM policy.

01:02:09Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000950

Now, they have to be subjected for mandatory institutional review to be conducted by GCG.

01:02:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000951

Yes, sir. Government support.

01:02:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000952

Yes, sir. Government support.

01:02:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000954

Mr. Speaker, the GCG is just pulling up the actual number.

01:02:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000955

However, just an overall observation regarding the amount of government support,

01:02:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000956

it's been declining given that those GOCCs that previously needed government support are now improving in performance.

01:02:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000957

Thank you.

01:02:58Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000958

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

01:03:04Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000959

According to GCG's classification as of June 30, 2026,

01:03:11Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000960

there are 21 corporations classified under abolition,

01:03:17Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000961

meaning they are being considered for closure,

01:03:22Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000962

winding down or absorption into other government corporations.

01:03:26Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000963

GCG was subsequently reported as saying that the Commission hopes to complete the liquidation of at least five of them within 2026.

01:03:39Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000964

Is that still the target?

01:03:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000965

Yes.

01:03:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000966

Yes, Mr. Speaker, that is correct.

01:03:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000967

As of June 30, there are 21 GOCCs that have been abolished and under liquidation.

01:03:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000968

And there's also...

01:03:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000969

And there's also 11 that has been abolished and completed liquidation.

01:03:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000970

As for the number of GOCCs with terminal reports to be submitted to the Office of the President,

01:04:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000971

there are 11 for this year.

01:04:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000972

Mr. Speaker.

01:04:11Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000973

Yeah.

01:04:13Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000974

Mr. Speaker, this is your sponsor.

01:04:15Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000975

Without prejudice to the non-disclosure,

01:04:18Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000976

may din nyo bangbanggitin kung sino mo ito or it's going under review pa rin?

01:04:23Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000977

Or if not, you can submit to this...

01:04:26Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000978

to this body kung sino yung mga yon.

01:04:30Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000979

If you think it's going to be a violation of any rules or guidelines under GCG.

01:04:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000980

Oh, sorry.

01:04:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000981

I stand corrected, Mr. Speaker.

01:04:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000982

The number of abolished GOCCs pipeline for terminal report in 2026 is actually five.

01:04:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000983

Yeah.

01:04:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000984

But...

01:04:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-000985

But...

01:04:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000986

That's why I was mentioned a while ago that there are still five.

01:04:59Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000987

That's why for my next question,

01:05:03Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000988

that means even five are completed this year.

01:05:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000989

A significant number will still remain under abolition status.

01:05:12Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000990

For how long has each of these 21 corporations been under abolition?

01:05:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001011

Um, Mr. Speaker, given the extensive process of settling the obligations and liabilities of those GOCCs

01:05:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001012

Those GOCCs that are non-performing, as well as the fulfillment of compromise agreements, it's a lengthy period. As early as 2013, there are still GOCCs that are being processed. So, roughly around 13 years.

01:06:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001013

Yeah, Mr. Speaker. For the information of everyone, GOCC stands for government-owned controlled corporation.

01:06:28Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001014

Am I right? And they're not asking subsidy or funding from our government, only GCG. Now, because my understanding, when you're a GOCC, you generate income. Am I right?

01:06:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001015

Yes.

01:06:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001016

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

01:06:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001017

So, how come those 5 or 21 you mentioned, Wilco, are winding down or for abolition? Ibig ho bang sabihin?

01:06:59Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001018

Nalulugi, hindi sila kumikita, or part of downsizing talaga?

01:07:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001019

Mr. Speaker, based on the charter of the GCG and all of its guidelines, there are six qualifications for the recommendation of this positive action.

01:07:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001020

One, the GOCC's function is no longer relevant to state or national development policy.

01:07:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001021

Second, it...

01:07:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001022

It's duplicate or unnecessarily overlaps with other government agencies.

01:07:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001023

The third one, the GOCC is not producing desired outcomes or is no longer achieving its objectives, as stated.

01:07:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001024

The fourth would be, the GOCC would be dormant or non-operational.

01:07:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001025

The fifth would be, the GOCC would be involved in activities that is determined to be best carried out by a private sector firm.

01:07:58Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001026

And the sixth one would be, the GOCC's nature of operations would require consolidation under a holding company.

01:08:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001027

So, those are the six qualifications for recommendation for abolition, Mr. Speaker.

01:08:09Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001028

The number five, or I think number five, you mentioned number four, that is going to be sold to private.

01:08:16Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001029

Is that what I understand?

01:08:18Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001030

Tama ba yun? Intindi ko?

01:08:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001031

Uh, there...

01:08:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001032

Okay.

01:08:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001033

Okay.

01:08:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001034

The fifth one, Mr. Speaker, the GCG assesses and sees if the activity in which the GOCC is involved would be best carried out by a private sector firm.

01:08:48Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001035

So, when you say best carried out by a private firm, what does it mean?

01:08:54Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001036

Are we going to sell it or just going to give it away?

01:08:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001037

Anong bang...

01:08:58Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001038

Ang tindi sa private firm will just be carried away.

01:09:04Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001039

It will be carried out.

01:09:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001040

Okay.

01:09:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001043

[unclear]

01:09:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001044

[unclear]

01:09:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001049

[unclear]

01:10:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001066

Mr. Speaker, regarding abolition,

01:10:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001067

if the

01:10:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001068

particular GOCC would be

01:10:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001069

recommended for abolition,

01:10:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001070

it's usually

01:10:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001071

the

01:10:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001072

employees, the assets,

01:10:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001073

and all the operations would be

01:10:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001074

absorbed by the government

01:10:26Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001075

agency, like a relevant government

01:10:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001076

agency, with related

01:10:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001077

operations to the GOCC for abolition.

01:10:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001078

Mr. Speaker.

01:10:33Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001079

Mr. Speaker, I agree with that.

01:10:35Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001080

But again, I'm just going to stick

01:10:37Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001081

the number five, that you're private.

01:10:40Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001082

Papasok ba? Bibiling ba nila?

01:10:42Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001083

Mamimigay ba natin?

01:10:44Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001084

Remember you mentioned number five.

01:10:46Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001085

So I'm just curious

01:10:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001086

about the number five. When you say

01:10:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001087

private firm

01:10:50Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001088

is carrying it out

01:10:53Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001089

or taking over, ano ba?

01:10:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001090

Kasi doon lang medyo

01:10:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001091

nalilito ako. Just enlighten me

01:10:59Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001092

pagdating dyan. Ano ba talagang

01:11:01Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001093

issue doon? Talaga bang, kasi

01:11:03Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001094

when you mention five,

01:11:05Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001095

private, you mentioned private

01:11:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001096

firm.

01:11:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001097

Mr. Speaker,

01:11:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001098

to further

01:11:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001099

enhance the details that were mentioned.

01:11:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001100

So,

01:11:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001101

if there is

01:11:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001102

an observation on the part of the

01:11:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001103

GCG that a GOCC

01:11:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001104

is non-operating

01:11:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001105

or

01:11:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001106

is failing to

01:11:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001107

meet objectives, then

01:11:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001108

it assesses

01:11:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001109

and then it evaluates whether

01:11:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001110

it should recommend for abolition,

01:11:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001111

recommend for merger,

01:11:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001112

or recommend for

01:11:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001113

privatization. So, strictly for

01:12:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001114

abolition, most of the time,

01:12:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001115

what happens is, if the GOCC

01:12:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001116

is recommended for abolition,

01:12:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001117

then the operations

01:12:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001118

and employees and all of the assets

01:12:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001119

get

01:12:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001120

absorbed by a government

01:12:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001121

agency that has related

01:12:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001122

operations to what the

01:12:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001123

GOCC used to do.

01:12:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001124

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

01:12:24Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001125

Remember, for

01:12:25Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001126

every year or every day, the process

01:12:27Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001127

remains unfinished.

01:12:29Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001128

What costs continue

01:12:31Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001129

to be borne by government?

01:12:33Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001130

Personal costs,

01:12:35Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001131

administrative expenses,

01:12:37Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001132

liabilities, asset maintenance

01:12:39Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001133

costs, legal expenses,

01:12:41Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001134

or other obligations.

01:12:43Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001135

Mr. Speaker, can the good sponsor

01:12:45Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001136

quantify the

01:12:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001137

annual cost of keeping these

01:12:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001138

corporations legally

01:12:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001139

or

01:12:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001140

administratively alive?

01:12:54Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001141

Even just an estimate,

01:12:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001142

where they are supposedly

01:12:58Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001143

already being

01:13:00Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001144

abolished.

01:14:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001148

Mr. Speaker, once a GOCC

01:14:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001149

is recommended for abolition,

01:14:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001150

it stops receiving

01:14:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001151

any government subsidy from

01:14:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001152

the national government.

01:14:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001153

So, in terms of

01:14:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001154

additional

01:14:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001155

expenses on the part of the

01:14:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001156

national government, for those that are still

01:14:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001157

pending abolition, there are none.

01:14:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001158

Mr. Speaker.

01:14:38Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001159

I'm glad that you said, Mr. Speaker, that

01:14:41Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001160

there will be no more subsidies

01:14:42Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001161

as long as they're under

01:14:44Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001162

abolition. What happens to

01:14:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001163

the employees?

01:14:48Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001164

Are they absorbed immediately or are they still there?

01:14:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001165

Because if they're still there,

01:14:52Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001166

it will incur

01:14:53Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001167

expenses for the salaries,

01:14:56Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001168

so once under

01:14:59Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001169

abolition,

01:15:00Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001170

pending,

01:15:01Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001171

lilipat na ba sila?

01:15:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001172

Mr. Speaker, for those employees who will not be absorbed

01:16:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001173

by, let's say, a

01:16:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001174

government agency,

01:16:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001175

they're given separation incentive pay,

01:16:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001176

and then those who are needed

01:16:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001177

for the safekeeping

01:16:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001178

and for the processing of the abolition,

01:16:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001179

they're maintained by the corporation.

01:16:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001180

Mr. Speaker.

01:16:20Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001181

Fair enough, Mr. Speaker.

01:16:23Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001182

So,

01:16:24Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001183

those 21 cases

01:16:26Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001184

for disposal

01:16:27Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001185

or under abolition

01:16:30Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001186

Ano action required

01:16:33Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001187

for another agency?

01:16:35Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001188

Settlement of liabilities,

01:16:37Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001189

litigation,

01:16:38Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001190

I know there's legal processes, no?

01:16:41Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001191

Alam naman natin may mga legal impediments to.

01:16:44Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001192

So, do we expect that 21

01:16:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001193

under abolition

01:16:50Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001194

will be done

01:16:52Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001195

this year

01:16:53Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001196

or it will take another year?

01:17:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001197

Mr. Speaker,

01:17:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001198

for 2026,

01:17:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001199

those that are pipelined for terminal report

01:17:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001200

would be 5.

01:17:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001201

So, that would remain,

01:17:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001202

the 16 remaining.

01:17:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001203

As for the 16 remaining

01:17:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001204

GOCCs for abolition,

01:17:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001205

the,

01:17:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001206

the GCG

01:17:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001207

established the

01:17:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001208

disposition and

01:17:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001209

asset management office

01:17:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001210

to further expedite

01:17:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001211

the abolition of these

01:17:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001212

16 remaining GOCCs.

01:17:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001213

Mr. Speaker.

01:17:42Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001214

So, it's going to handle

01:17:43Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001215

by the asset management office?

01:17:46Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001216

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

01:17:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001217

Okay, fair enough.

01:17:48Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001218

In connection with that,

01:17:50Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001219

I would like to ask GCG

01:17:52Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001220

what precisely makes

01:17:53Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001221

a GOCC

01:17:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001222

sufficiently non-performing

01:17:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001223

to warrant

01:17:59Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001224

the abolition

01:17:59Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001225

of that action

01:18:00Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001226

to classify them

01:18:02Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001227

for winding up?

01:18:03Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001228

Is there an objective threshold?

01:18:06Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001229

Is there a criteria?

01:18:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001230

Yeah.

01:19:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001243

Mr. Speaker, the GCG uses the Corporate Governance Scorecard and the Performance Evaluation Scorecard.

01:19:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001244

So, consistent failure in these key performance indicators would constitute a review by the GCG with regards to the abolition, Mr. Speaker.

01:19:35Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001245

That was a good answer. That's why my next question is about the scorecard.

01:19:41Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001246

Thank you for that information, Mr. Speaker, the single sponsor.

01:19:45Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001247

So, if a GOCC consistently fails its target, what happens to the board?

01:19:52Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001248

I'm talking of the board of the GOCC.

01:19:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001249

In other words, is poor performance merely recorded on a scoreboard, or does the scoreboard actually produce governance consequences?

01:20:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001254

[unclear]

01:20:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001255

[unclear]

01:21:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001258

Mr. Speaker,

01:21:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001259

with regards to

01:21:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001260

whether there are consistent

01:21:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001261

underperformance in the

01:21:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001262

scorecard, if it's the GOCC,

01:21:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001263

then

01:21:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001264

if the GOCC continually

01:21:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001265

underperforms,

01:21:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001266

then the GCG can

01:21:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001267

review and evaluate

01:21:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001268

it for abolition.

01:21:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001269

With regards to the

01:21:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001270

Board of Directors, because

01:21:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001271

we also have performance

01:21:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001272

evaluation for directors,

01:21:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001273

if

01:21:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001274

an appointed director

01:21:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001275

receives less

01:21:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001276

than 85% in the

01:21:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001277

performance scorecard,

01:21:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001278

it won't be qualified

01:21:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001279

to be included in the shortlist of nominees

01:21:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001280

for succeeding terms of office, meaning

01:21:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001281

cannot be issued

01:21:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001282

reappointment, Mr. Speaker.

01:21:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001283

I like that.

01:21:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001284

85%. Maganda yan.

01:21:59Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001285

So, again, thank you

01:22:01Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001286

for my closing statement.

01:22:03Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001287

Thank you for that,

01:22:05Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001288

Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

01:22:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001289

I hope the commitments that we received

01:22:09Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001290

from the GCG will actually

01:22:11Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001291

translate into measurable results

01:22:13Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001292

that perhaps we can revisit

01:22:15Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001293

in the next budget cycle.

01:22:16Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001294

As you know,

01:22:19Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001295

Mr. Speaker, ang GCG po ay

01:22:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001296

ay hindi basta-basta trabaho.

01:22:23Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001297

They oversee

01:22:24Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001298

several

01:22:26Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001299

GOCC, no? Para pong

01:22:29Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001300

nagbantay sila ng top

01:22:31Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001301

100 corporations. Napakahirap po

01:22:33Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001302

ng kanilang trabaho. That's why

01:22:35Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001303

I support the budget of GCG.

01:22:38Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001304

Ang sabi nga nila dyan,

01:22:39Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001305

konti

01:22:41Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001306

ang suweldo,

01:22:43Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001307

maraming trabaho. Again, thank you very much,

01:22:45Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001308

Mr. Speaker.

01:22:48Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001309

Madam Sponsor, and to

01:22:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001310

the rest of the family of GCG.

01:22:51Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001311

Thank you, Honorable De Jesus,

01:22:53Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001312

Majority Leader.

01:22:55Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001313

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize

01:22:58Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001314

the Honorable Elijah San Fernando

01:23:00Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001315

for his interpellation.

01:23:02Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001316

The Honorable Elijah San Fernando

01:23:04Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001317

of Party-list Kamanggagawa is recognized.

01:23:06Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001318

Please proceed.

01:23:07Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001319

Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker,

01:23:09Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001320

sa ating kaibigan, kagalang-galang

01:23:11Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001321

na Bella Suansing,

01:23:13Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001322

sponsor, at sa mga kasama po natin

01:23:16Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001323

sa GCG, magandang gabi po sa inyo.

01:23:18Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001324

Meron lamang pong ilang mga

01:23:19Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001325

katanungan,

01:23:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001326

paglilinaw.

01:23:23Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001327

Noong June 6,

01:23:26Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001328

2011 po,

01:23:27Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001329

ay naging batas yung

01:23:29Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001330

RA number 10149

01:23:31Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001331

na nagbubuo na po sa

01:23:33Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001332

Governance Commission for

01:23:35Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001333

GOCCs. At

01:23:37Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001334

kasabay nito ay ang pagkakaroon din

01:23:39Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001335

ng

01:23:40Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001336

tinatawag nating Compensation

01:23:43Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001337

and Position Classification System

01:23:45Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001338

o CPCS

01:23:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001339

para sa lahat

01:23:49Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001340

ng mga GOCCs and

01:23:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001341

GFIs, chartered

01:23:53Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001342

o hindi. Para lang po

01:23:55Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001343

maunawaan ng ating

01:23:57Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001344

kaibigan na sponsor,

01:23:59Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001345

so prior po sa pagkakaroon

01:24:01Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001346

ng batas noong 2011,

01:24:04Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001347

so yung mga

01:24:04Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001348

manggagawa sa mga GOCCs and

01:24:07Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001349

GFIs, so may mga

01:24:09Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001350

gratuity na yan na natatanggap.

01:24:11Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001351

May mga allowances, benefits,

01:24:13Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001352

and incentives.

01:24:15Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001353

Pero yung ibang GOCCs, dahil

01:24:17Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001354

nga hindi pa standard at

01:24:19Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001355

that time, so iba-iba yan.

01:24:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001356

Matatanggap. So the intention

01:24:23Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001357

of the law is actually good.

01:24:26Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001358

Yung pagkabuo ng

01:24:27Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001359

CPCS na

01:24:29Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001360

tinatawag. Pero malinaw

01:24:31Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001361

doon sa Section 11, Mr. Speaker,

01:24:34Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001362

Distinguished Sponsor,

01:24:36Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001363

that

01:24:36Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001364

this particular section expressly

01:24:39Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001365

bars

01:24:40Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001366

diminution of authorized

01:24:42Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001367

salaries as of

01:24:45Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001368

December 31, 2010

01:24:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001369

for incumbents.

01:24:49Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001370

And I quote,

01:24:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001371

that in no case

01:24:52Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001372

shall there be any diminution

01:24:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001373

in the authorized

01:24:56Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001374

salaries as of

01:24:59Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001375

December 31, 2010.

01:25:02Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001376

So yun po yung progression,

01:25:03Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001377

bago magkaroon ng batas,

01:25:05Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001378

at nagkaroon ng batas, at malinaw

01:25:07Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001379

na nakasulat sa Section 11, hindi

01:25:08Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001380

maaaring magkaroon ng pagbaba.

01:25:11Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001381

So yun yung non-diminution

01:25:12Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001382

of benefits na tinatawag.

01:25:15Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001383

Now, on October

01:25:16Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001384

1, 2021,

01:25:19Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001385

then,

01:25:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001386

President Duterte issued

01:25:23Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001387

Executive Order No.

01:25:25Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001388

150.

01:25:27Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001389

And this Executive

01:25:29Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001390

Order approves

01:25:31Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001391

CPCS 1.

01:25:34Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001392

Ngayon, medyo problematic

01:25:35Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001393

na po itong CPCS 1.

01:25:37Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001394

So susundan po natin, the intention

01:25:39Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001395

of the law ay maganda

01:25:40Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001396

para magkaroon ng standard

01:25:42Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001397

doon sa mga manggagawa sa GOCCs

01:25:45Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001398

and GFIs.

01:25:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001399

Tas malinaw sa Section 11,

01:25:48Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001400

bawal mabawasan yung mga benepisyon nila.

01:25:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001401

Now, come 2021,

01:25:53Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001402

naglabas ngayon ng Executive

01:25:55Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001403

Order, kung saan

01:25:56Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001404

pinipigilan na

01:25:59Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001405

yung mga GOCC

01:26:01Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001406

boards from

01:26:03Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001407

negotiating collective

01:26:04Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001408

negotiation agreements

01:26:06Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001409

or CBA terms.

01:26:10Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001410

Tapos,

01:26:11Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001411

yung nandun pa rin

01:26:13Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001412

yung pagsa-standardize ng compensation,

01:26:16Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001413

pero

01:26:16Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001414

na-disallow na yung

01:26:18Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001415

mga bayad,

01:26:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001416

outside CPCS,

01:26:24Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001417

absent presidential

01:26:25Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001418

approval.

01:26:27Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001419

So kung masusundan po natin,

01:26:29Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001420

before, nakakatanggap na sila ng mga benefits,

01:26:32Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001421

mga allowances and incentives,

01:26:34Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001422

tapos

01:26:35Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001423

in-standardize siya, and then come

01:26:37Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001424

EO 150,

01:26:40Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001425

without

01:26:41Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001426

the presidential approval,

01:26:44Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001427

hindi na sila makakatanggap

01:26:45Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001428

ng mga ganitong gratuity pay.

01:26:49Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001429

Tapos,

01:26:49Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001430

sinubject yung provident

01:26:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001431

fund

01:26:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001432

contribution

01:26:52Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001433

to rationalization.

01:26:55Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001434

In fact,

01:26:55Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001435

tinutulan ito ng mga manggagawa

01:26:57Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001436

sa GOCCs and GFIs.

01:26:59Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001437

Kasi we have to take note,

01:27:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001438

yung mga manggagawa natin sa GOCCs and GFIs,

01:27:03Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001439

highly technical itong mga ito,

01:27:05Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001440

highly skilled.

01:27:06Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001441

So, kung baga,

01:27:07Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001442

insentibo ito para manatili sila

01:27:09Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001443

sa mga government financial institutions,

01:27:12Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001444

kasi kung pangit naman

01:27:13Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001445

yung package na inooffer ng mga

01:27:15Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001446

GOCCs and GFIs,

01:27:16Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001447

eh ba't magtatrabaho dyan yung mga manggagawa?

01:27:19Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001448

So that is the purpose.

01:27:20Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001449

So, kaya tinutulan itong CPCS-1.

01:27:22Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001450

In fact, there were many

01:27:24Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001451

mobilizations

01:27:25Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001452

para tutulan itong CPCS-1.

01:27:28Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001453

And the promise back then is

01:27:30Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001454

i-review itong CPCS-1,

01:27:32Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001455

yung EO-150.

01:27:34Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001456

Kasi malakas yung clamor,

01:27:36Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001457

yung pushback ng mga manggagawa na

01:27:38Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001458

eh bakit nyo naman babawasan yung

01:27:40Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001459

natatanggap na naming mga benepisyo?

01:27:42Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001460

And so the response to CPCS-1

01:27:44Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001461

is CPCS-2.

01:27:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001462

So,

01:27:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001463

ito yung nilabas ni Pangulong

01:27:50Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001464

Bongbong Marcos

01:27:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001465

noong September 16, 2025

01:27:53Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001466

through Executive Order

01:27:56Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001467

No. 95

01:27:58Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001468

expressly

01:28:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001469

repealing EO-150.

01:28:03Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001470

Ang problema dito sa CPCS-2,

01:28:06Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001471

Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

01:28:08Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001472

hindi niya niresolba yung problema

01:28:09Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001473

ng CPCS-1.

01:28:12Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001474

Bakit hindi niya niresolba?

01:28:14Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001475

Kasi, Madam Sponsor,

01:28:15Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001476

nanatili pa rin

01:28:16Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001477

yung CNA-CBA Negotiation Ban

01:28:20Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001478

nandun pa rin yung

01:28:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001479

pagra-rationalize, quote-unquote,

01:28:24Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001480

doon sa Provident Funds

01:28:26Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001481

and it has a

01:28:27Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001482

pivotal new feature.

01:28:31Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001483

It converts

01:28:32Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001484

previously authorized

01:28:33Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001485

allowances,

01:28:36Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001486

benefits, and incentives,

01:28:38Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001487

ABIs,

01:28:39Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001488

into a one-time three-year present value

01:28:42Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001489

cash payout.

01:28:44Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001490

Kung merong regression,

01:28:45Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001491

merong, kumbaga, rollback ito eh.

01:28:49Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001492

So, instead na

01:28:49Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001493

nakukuha nila yung ABIs,

01:28:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001494

yung mga manggagawa sa GOCCs and GFIs,

01:28:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001495

ang nangyari ay

01:28:55Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001496

one-time

01:28:57Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001497

cash payout, after which

01:28:59Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001498

they are discontinued.

01:29:02Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001499

Tama po ba itong

01:29:03Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001500

pagkakalahad ng mga facts nito,

01:29:06Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001501

Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker?

01:29:49Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001503

Maandar po yung time ko,

01:29:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001504

Mr. Speaker.

01:31:07Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001507

Session is suspended.

01:34:08Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001512

Session is resumed.

01:34:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001513

Mr. Speaker, as for the GCG, this is a mere transitory provision. From CPCS 1, the three-year present value of the discontinued allowances, benefits, and incentives

01:34:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001514

were paid over three tranches for three years during this transitory period. But at the same time, tumaas din po, as per the GCG, yung monthly basic compensation. Besides the tranches na payout, tumaas din yung monthly basic compensation para maging mas at par sa private sector, Mr. Speaker.

01:35:04Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001515

Thank you, Madam Sponsor. In fact, merong mga tumaas pagdating sa allowances, benefits, and incentives; merong mga nabigyan kasi before wala yung iba. In-standardize sa CPCS 1, CPCS 2, pero ang daming problematic provisions at may pushback yung workers in GFIs.

01:35:30Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001516

In fact, Madam Sponsor, bago pa man nagkaroon ng batas na bumuo sa GCG at bago CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, may mga manggagawa sa GFIs na nag-e-enjoy na ng iba?t ibang allowances, benefits, and incentives.

01:36:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001517

For example, Pag-IBIG educational assistance and provident fund traced to board resolutions from 1986 and 1994. PDIC has 2011 payroll records, the year RA 10149 was passed, showing 14th-month pay and provident fund contributions. SSS PRAISE program disbursing

01:36:30Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001518

434.805 million in incentives in 2024 was reviewed and approved by the Civil Service Commission in June 2024. Dahil sa CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, may mga benepisyong nawala o nabawasan sa mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

01:37:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001519

Sa provident fund, some were enjoying 40% employer share, pero dahil sa CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, 10% na lang. Iyan ang malaking problema. Madam Sponsor, let us establish a basic principle of law.

01:37:30Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001520

Ang Republic Act 10149, GOCC Governance Act, ay pinasa noong 2011, a general law for standardization of GOCCs. Fast forward to 2019, ipinasa ng Kongreso ang RA 11199, Social Security Act of 2018, isang specific law.

01:38:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001521

Section 3(d) gave the Social Security Commission power to fix reasonable compensation, allowances, and benefits of its personnel. Ngayon ginagamit ng GCG yung CPCS 2 na inilabas noong 2025

01:38:30Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001522

para i-override at tanggalin ang mga benepisyong ito. In constant communication ako sa union ng SSS. So alin ang mas mataas, Madam Sponsor, isang batas na pinasa ng Kongreso o isang executive order

01:39:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001523

na nanggaling sa Office of the President, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker?

01:39:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001526

[unclear]

01:39:30Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001527

Mr. Speaker, yung time ko po pumapatak.

01:39:39Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001528

Pumapatak po yung time ko.

01:39:41Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001529

Timer, please.

01:40:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001531

[unclear]

01:41:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001532

[unclear]

01:41:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001533

Mr. Speaker, Section 11 of RA 10149, if I may read,

01:41:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001534

the Compensation and Position Classification System, so CPCS,

01:41:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001535

to be developed and recommended by the GCG as approved by the President

01:41:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001536

shall apply to all positions on full or part-time basis now existing

01:41:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001537

or hereafter created in the GOCC,

01:41:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001538

provided that in no case shall there be any diminution in the authorized salaries

01:41:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001539

as of December 31, 2010.

01:42:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001540

Of incumbent employees of the GOCCs, including those exempt under RA 6758 as amended

01:42:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001541

upon the implementation of the CPCS for GOCCs.

01:42:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001542

So, dapat ang nagpe-prevail po talaga ay ano?

01:42:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001543

10149, Mr. Speaker.

01:42:17Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001544

Ay, dapat ang nagpe-prevail ay yung?

01:42:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001545

10149, Mr. Speaker.

01:42:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001546

So, in statutory construction, the specific and later law prevails over a general and earlier law.

01:42:30Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001547

So, given that RA 11199, 2019, is both the later law and the specific charter for SSS,

01:42:39Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001548

hindi po dapat ito ang mas masunod kaysa sa general framework ng RA 10149?

01:42:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001549

Actually, ang basis yung executive order eh.

01:42:56Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001550

So, ano pong authority?

01:43:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001551

Ang ginagamit ng GCG to use an executive order

01:43:06Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001552

to execute an implied administrative repeal of a specific act of Congress.

01:43:15Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001553

Ibig sabihin po ba nito, mas mataas na ang GCG kaysa sa Kongreso?

01:43:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001554

Kasi yun po ang efekte.

01:43:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001555

Mr. Speaker, there was no express repeal of this section under the Social Security Law. So this would still prevail.

01:43:48Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001556

So, tinitindigan po ng GCG na through the executive order, eh pinangingibabawan niya.

01:43:58Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001557

Halimbawa, yun dito sa...

01:44:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001558

Sabi dun sa case ng SSS, na batas na ginawa,

01:44:07Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001559

binigyan ng kapangyarihan ang SSS na i-determine yung compensation for the workers, for its workers.

01:44:16Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001560

And now, GCG is saying, hindi, mas mataas itong RA 10149.

01:44:22Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001561

So, paano ngayon natin i-reconcile yun, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

01:44:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001562

Oh, yeah.

01:44:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001563

Given that there is no, but as for the GCG,

01:44:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001564

given that there is no express repeal of RA 10149 under the Social Security Law,

01:44:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001565

it would still prevail.

01:44:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001566

Though, again, the GCG would submit to the wisdom of Congress if we need to amend.

01:44:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001567

Because under Section 11, nakaprovide po dito yung, as approved by the President.

01:44:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001568

So...

01:45:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001569

So, big sabihin, si GCG magre-rely ngayon sa sabihin ng Presidente, even though the law is very clear.

01:45:14Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001570

Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, yan po yung kinagagalitan ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

01:45:20Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001571

And I believe the GCG is open for further dialogue regarding this matter, Madam Sponsor.

01:45:27Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001572

Because we really have to clarify this.

01:45:30Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001573

Now, Madam Sponsor, ilapag po natin ang mga katotohanan dahil hindi pwedeng ginagamit ng GCG ang salitang standardization bilang lisensya para agawin.

01:45:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001574

Actually, pag-agaw yun eh. Yun yung principle of non-diminution of benefits. Ibinigay na.

01:45:53Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001575

Ang mga karapatang dekada ng pinakikinabangan ng mga manggagawa.

01:45:58Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001576

So, ito po yung binabanggit ko kanina.

01:46:00Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001577

Records clearly show that Pag-ibig has provided an educational assistance benefit since 1986

01:46:07Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001578

and a provident fund with a 45% employer counterpart that was explicitly approved by the President back in 1994.

01:46:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001579

Sa PDIC naman, malinaw sa 2011 payrolls nila,

01:46:25Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001580

the exact same year, RA 10149 was passed, na tumatanggap na ang mga empleyado nila ng 14th month pay and medical allowances.

01:46:38Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001581

So, because of the existence, itong pinag-uusapan natin na CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, yan po yung mga nawala.

01:46:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001582

Ang daming nawala eh sa mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

01:46:50Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001583

And in fact, if you are going to ask workers in the GFIs,

01:46:55Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001584

isa lang sinasabi nila, ayaw namin itong CPCS 1 and CPCS 2.

01:47:01Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001585

So, Madam Sponsor, these provident funds were legally established decades before.

01:47:07Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001586

So, wala pa ng GCG, meron ng provident fund.

01:47:11Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001587

At meron ng arrangement, 45% nga in an example eh.

01:47:15Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001588

So, complete with presidential and statutory backing.

01:47:19Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001589

So, bakit pilit pinapatay ng GCG ang ipo ng mga manggagawa?

01:47:25Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001590

Ang ibig sabihin po ba ng standardization for GCG ay katumbas ng diminution?

01:47:38Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001591

Definitely, alam ko po, sasabihin ng GCG, hindi.

01:47:42Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001592

But that is the effect.

01:47:43Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001593

Thank you.

01:48:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001595

Mr. Speaker, well, as for the GCG, well, yung, this would be compensated by the monthly,

01:48:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001596

like the higher monthly compensation.

01:48:37Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001597

Yun. Medyo hindi po katanggap-tanggap yung sagot ng GCG that it will be compensated by higher or whatever.

01:48:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001598

Kasi nga, matagal na itong ini-enjoy ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

01:48:53Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001599

In the section 11 nga,

01:48:55Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001600

So, papaano ngayon yan, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker?

01:49:10Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001601

Kasi mukhang tinitindigan pa rin ng GCG na okay lang na ang daming nawalang mga abis,

01:49:18Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001602

ang daming mga nawalang mga ini-enjoy na ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

01:49:21Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001603

In fact, they are actually listening sa conversation po.

01:49:25Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001604

So, natin nga yun, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker.

01:49:28Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001605

So, can the GCG commit today that they will respect the vested rights of these employees

01:49:37Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001606

and immediately approve the reinstatement requests for these provident funds pending the resolution?

01:49:45Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001607

Kung meron mang mga legal battles, makukuha rin ba namin ang commitment ng GCG na makipagpulong po sa mga manggagawa ng GFIs?

01:49:55Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001608

Kasi sila po ang ultimate beneficiary and casualty of what we are talking about right now.

01:50:02Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001609

So, ang gusto po ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs ay kalinawan.

01:50:06Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001610

So, will we get that commitment from GCG, Madam Sponsor?

01:50:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001611

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

01:50:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001612

The GCG is, well, upon the assurance of our good chairperson,

01:50:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001613

is willing also to present the data that they've run assessments,

01:50:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001614

they've arrived at...

01:50:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001615

different numbers that give justification to their stance.

01:50:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001616

But, of course, with the help, of course, of my distinguished colleague,

01:50:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001617

Honorable San Fernando, personally this representation,

01:50:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001618

let's facilitate the dialogue between the GCG and our members from the Labor Center.

01:50:44Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001619

Thank you very much to my good friend, the sponsor, Congresswoman Bella Swan Singh.

01:50:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001620

Kasi gusto natin at the end of the day, ma-resolve ba itong problema ito?

01:50:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001621

Kasi the last thing that we would like to happen,

01:50:57Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001622

pag itong lahat ng GFIs, pitong GFIs,

01:51:02Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001623

yung mga manggagawa nito ay hindi nakapagtimpe,

01:51:06Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001624

lalabas tong mga to.

01:51:08Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001625

That is, yun yung gusto natin, hanggat maaari,

01:51:11Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001626

ayaw natin tumuntong sa isang sitwasyon na hindi natin makukontrol

01:51:16Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001627

dahil very personal at malalim ang hugot ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs

01:51:24Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001628

dito sa mga nawalang allowances, benefits, and incentives.

01:51:29Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001629

And for so long, hindi nila nakukuha yung sagot from GCG.

01:51:34Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001630

And it is a welcome development that the sponsor is assuring this representation

01:51:41Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001631

that through the chairperson of GCG ay magkakaroon tayo ng pag-uusap.

01:51:46Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001632

Now, on to the third question, part of my question.

01:51:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001633

Malinaw po na nakasaad sa saligang batas natin,

01:51:57Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001634

and in fact, this has been enshrined in labor laws and other relevant labor laws,

01:52:03Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001635

yung karapatan ng mga manggagawa na organisahin yung kanyang sarili

01:52:09Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001636

at makipag-negosasyon o makipagtawaran sa kanyang employer.

01:52:14Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001637

Kung sa pampublikong sektor, collective negotiation ang tawag.

01:52:20Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001638

So sa pribadong sektor, collective bargaining.

01:52:24Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001639

In fact, sa Article 13, Section 3, at maging sa Executive Order No. 180,

01:52:31Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001640

garantisado ang karapatan ng lahat ng manggagawa,

01:52:35Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001641

kasama ang mga manggagawa sa pampublikong sektor,

01:52:39Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001642

pagdating sa usapin ng self-organization and collective negotiation.

01:52:43Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001643

Pero ito po yung malaking katanungan.

01:52:47Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001644

In CPCS 1 and CPCS 2,

01:52:51Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001645

eh, pinoprohibit.

01:52:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001646

Yung mga GOCC boards na magkaroon ng collective negotiation with its workers.

01:53:03Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001647

So there is an absolute blanket prohibition.

01:53:09Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001648

So papaano po, so does the Commission honestly believe that

01:53:13Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001649

this absolute blanket prohibition on negotiating every single economic,

01:53:20Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001650

so yung economic provisions po ang pinatutungkulan Madam Sponsor,

01:53:24Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001651

so negotiating every single economic term,

01:53:28Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001652

is consistent with the constitutional guarantee of self-organization?

01:54:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001659

Mr. Speaker, as for the GCG, there is recognition of their right to self-organization. However, in terms of bargaining for economic terms, apparently there are already a long list of Supreme Court rulings that...

01:54:49Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001660

What is that specific Supreme Court ruling?

01:54:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001661

I'd like to reiterate. Constitutional guarantee, yung collective negotiation. So ano po yung sa Supreme Court ruling?

01:55:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001662

If I'm allowed to enumerate, this is for your GSIS Family Bank Employees Union v. Villanueva, JR number 210773.

01:55:37Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001663

210, JR number 210.

01:55:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001664

210773, a rule that may not negotiate with their officers and employees the economic terms of their collective bargaining agreements.

01:55:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001665

And then for another Supreme Court ruling, PNCC versus NLRC, G.R. number 24...

01:56:03Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001665-split-2

Anong kaso po ?yan, Madam Sponsor?

01:56:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001665-split-3

PNCC.

01:56:07Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001665-split-4

Okay, okay.

01:56:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001665-split-5

Yeah, PNCC versus NLRC, G.R. number 248401, said that with the subsequent enactment of RA 10149,

01:56:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001666

PNCC may no longer grant this benefit.

01:56:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001667

Without persecuring the requisite authority of the President.

01:56:28Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001668

Without the authority of the President.

01:56:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001669

Yes.

01:56:32Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001670

Hayaan niyo po, Madam Sponsor, na reviewin din ang kinatawang ito, yung binanggit niyo po na jurisprudence on this matter.

01:56:39Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001671

Kaya po maganda nga na magkakaroon tayo ng dialogo.

01:56:42Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001672

So as to reconcile our reading on this particular case.

01:56:48Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001673

Kasi napakalinaw na tila baga nadidefeat na.

01:56:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001674

Ang constitutional guarantee pagdating sa collective negotiation, medyo mabigat po yun.

01:57:04Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001675

Nadagok sa mga union ng mga manggagawa dahil the reason of existence po ng mga union ng mga manggagawa,

01:57:14Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001676

may it be in private or public sector, ay para may abante yung mga panawagan tungkol sa pagdadagdag ng sahod,

01:57:23Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001677

mga benepisyon.

01:57:24Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001678

Yun nga po, yung abis na tinatawag.

01:57:27Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001679

So marami pong katanungan pa na gustong himayin ang kinatawang ito, pero dahil limitado po ang oras natin,

01:57:36Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001680

will we get that commitment again from the distinguished sponsor and the GCG through its chairperson,

01:57:43Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001681

for us to sit down together and have an honest to goodness talk and dialogue about this matter and questions of workers in the GFIs?

01:57:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001682

Madam Sponsor?

01:57:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001683

Yes, we reaffirm the commitment and I was also informed by our good chairperson that this coming Friday, next Friday,

01:58:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-001684

may meeting daw po with the labor groups firm, GFIs.

01:58:17Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001685

Thank you, Madam Sponsor and through the chairperson of GCG for affirming.

01:58:24Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001686

That commitment, dahil ako rin po ang kinatawang ito ay nais malinawan sa napakaraming mga tanong.

01:58:32Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001687

So thank you, Madam Sponsor, to my good friend and asahan ko po yung pagtutulungan natin on this matter.

01:58:40Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001688

And with that, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, there being no other member from the minority to interpolate for the budget of GCG,

01:58:53Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001689

I move.

01:58:54Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001690

To terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the plenary consideration of the budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs for Fiscal Year 2027.

01:59:06Source

Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando

asr-001691

I so move, Mr. Speaker.

01:59:08Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001692

What does the House say?

01:59:09Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001693

Majority Leader.

01:59:11Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001694

Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority to terminate the period of interpellation in the Governance Commission for GOCCs.

01:59:24Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001695

There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs.

01:59:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001696

Is there any objection?

01:59:36Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001697

The Chair hears none.

01:59:38Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001698

The interpellation on the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs is hereby terminated.

01:59:46Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001699

Congratulations.

01:59:50Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001700

Majority Leader.

01:59:52Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001701

Mr. Speaker, I move.

01:59:54Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001702

To consider the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority.

02:00:00Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001703

Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. Majority Leader.

02:00:06Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001704

Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Mindanao Development Authority, Chairperson Leo Magno, Usec Janet Lopoz, Asec Romeo Montenegro. I so move, Mr. Speaker.

02:00:24Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001705

To the family of the Mindanao Development Authority, headed by the Chairperson, Secretary Leo Tereso Magno, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

02:00:40Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001706

Mr. Speaker, I move that you recognize the Honorable Nicanor Briones, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations to sponsor the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority.

02:00:54Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001707

The Honorable Representative Niki Briones is recognized. Please proceed.

02:01:01Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001708

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

02:01:04Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001709

Dear colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good evening.

02:01:08Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001710

I rise today to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Mindanao Development Authority, headed by Secretary Leo Tereso Magno.

02:01:21Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001711

Mindanao Development Authority is mandated.

02:01:24Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001712

By virtue of Republic Act No. 9996, to promote, coordinate, and facilitate the socio-economic development of Mindanao through an integrated approach promoting trade, tourism, investment, private enterprises, and peace.

02:01:45Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001713

It also serves as the permanent Philippine Coordinating Office for the Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area.

02:01:54Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001714

It acts as the Secretariat for the Mindanao Power Monitoring Committee, Mindanao River Basin Management Council, NTF-ELCAC, and Cabinet Officer for Regional Development and Security in Mindanao.

02:02:15Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001715

It also implements critical strategic programs for the Mindanao.

02:02:24Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001716

Such as the Project RIBER, which helps local government units develop, rehabilitate, and maintain its water supply infrastructure.

02:02:35Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001717

These programs are aligned with the Mindanao Agenda, which aims to achieve inclusive economic recovery, sustain green growth, build resilience, and strengthen peace and development for an improved quality of life for every Mindanao citizen.

02:02:54Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001718

[unclear] by 2030. For this, we respectfully seek this Chamber's support to consider and approve the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority for fiscal year 2027, amounting to ₱272,435,000. Together, let us help a better Mindanao. Thank you very much, and I now welcome any questions from our colleagues.

02:03:26Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001719

Thank you, Honorable Briones. Majority Leader.

02:03:30Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-001719-split-2

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation.

02:03:35Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001720

The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list PHILRECA is recognized. Please proceed.

02:03:43Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001721

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course, to the distinguished sponsor, this is about the Mindanao Energy Security.

02:03:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001722

Question. Mr. Speaker, this is the sponsor. Based on the projects, Minda has identified reliable and affordable electricity necessary for their success and sustainability.

02:04:36Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001723

What's your question?

02:04:38Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001724

Okay, let me repeat my question. Based on the projects, MinDA has identified reliable and affordable electricity necessary for their success and sustainability. In short, naka-rely po kayo sa success ng the Mindanao project, yung affordable electricity for their success and sustainability. Yes or no?

02:05:04Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001725

Yes, distinguished colleague.

02:05:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001726

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Does Minda recognize electricity as a foundational requirement for Mindanao's industrial, agricultural, commercial, educational, health, and social development?

02:05:21Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001727

Yes, distinguished colleague.

02:05:25Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001728

Can MinDA describe what they know about the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex?

02:05:34Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001729

Yes, Your Honor.

02:05:40Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001730

Sir, can you describe what they know?

02:05:43Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001731

We support all our efforts for the rehabilitation of the Agus Pulangi.

02:05:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001732

So, are you familiar with the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex?

02:05:59Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001733

Yes, distinguished colleague.

02:06:03Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001734

Alam niyo po, ang Agus-Pulangi, yan po yung matagal na pong pinagkukunan, source of energy sa Mindanao.

02:06:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001735

That's why Congressman Sergio Dagooc, passionate siya pagdating po rito.

02:06:15Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001736

So, ang tanong ko po, because as we know, marami.

02:06:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001737

Marami po nag-aahangad sa Agus-Pulangi na ma-privatize.

02:06:26Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001738

So, do the Mindanao officers ng Mindanao Development Authority, are you in favor of, on record, are you in favor of privatizing Agus-Pulangi?

02:06:46Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001739

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague.

02:06:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001740

What the Mindanao Development Authority wants is rehabilitation, not privatization.

02:06:59Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001741

So, in short, you're in favor or you're not in favor of privatizing Agus-Pulangi?

02:07:05Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001742

No, no. Mindanao is not in favor.

02:07:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001743

So, you're not in favor?

02:07:09Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001744

Yes, Your Honor.

02:07:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001745

Second, so, as we know, that Agus-Pulangi hydropower needs rehabilitation.

02:07:19Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001746

Yeah, yes.

02:07:21Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001747

As of now, the capacity of the Agus-Pulangi hydropower plant is 1,000 megawatts and it's only running 600 to 700 megawatts, distinguished colleague.

02:07:42Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001748

So, in short, again, let me do some fun facts.

02:07:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001749

Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

02:07:51Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001750

The National Power Corporation identifies the Agus-Pulangi complexes as having a combined installed capacity of 982 megawatts

02:08:04Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001751

and supplying more than 50% of Mindanao's electricity requirements.

02:08:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001752

Alam po natin kung ano po ang kalagayan ng Agus-Pulangi.

02:08:14Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001753

Dito po nanggagaling kalahati po ng supply sa Mindanao.

02:08:19Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001754

Kaya, pansinin niyo po.

02:08:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001755

Bisayas, nagkakaroon ng yellow alert.

02:08:24Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001756

Even na Luzon, pero ang Bisayas, ang Mindanao ay bihira po because of Agus-Pulangi.

02:08:33Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001757

Does Mindanao Development Authority agree that preserving affordable and reliable access to this renewable energy resource is essential to Mindanao development?

02:08:48Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001758

Do you recognize po yan?

02:08:49Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001759

Definitely, Mr. Speaker.

02:08:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001760

Distinguished colleague.

02:08:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001761

Thank you.

02:08:56Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001762

If electricity is vital to Mindanao's development and Agus-Pulangi is a major government-owned source of electricity,

02:09:08Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001763

what precisely is Mindanao's position on private participation in its rehabilitation operation and management arrangement?

02:09:16Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001764

Ano ba yung arrangement nyo?

02:09:18Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001765

Kasi, ano po, rehabilitate na.

02:09:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001766

Ano po ang operation and management?

02:09:24Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001767

Ano po ang arrangement po natin dito?

02:09:49Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001768

Mr. Speaker,

02:09:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001769

Distinguished colleague, iba ang ahensya na mag-iimplement ng privatization. Yung PSALM ang siyang mag-iimplement ng privatization [unclear].

02:10:17Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001770

So, Mr. Speaker, medyo gusto ko lang linawin ito. Are we going to privatize ang Agus-Pulangi o yung kanilang rehabilitation lang?

02:10:27Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001771

It's only for rehabilitation.

02:10:30Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001772

Okay. So, malinaw po, Mr. Speaker, on record, the Agus-Pulangi will not be privatized but only yung rehabilitation ang ibibigay sa private. Tama ba ako doon?

02:10:46Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001773

Tama po.

02:10:47Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001774

Mr. Speaker, yun ang gagawin.

02:10:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001775

Yun ang gagawin, Mr. Speaker.

02:10:54Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001776

Okay. This is very important.

02:10:58Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001777

Section 47F of EPIRA excluded Agus-Pulangi from the generation assets initially privatized, provided that the ownership will be transferred to PSALM and the hydropower complexes will continue to be operated

02:11:17Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001780

by NPC. It further states that privatization is left to PSALM's discretion in consultation with Congress.

02:11:30Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001781

Do you agree with that?

02:11:30Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001782

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

02:11:33Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001783

We have to kasi. Nasa EPIRA law too. Section 47F, no?

02:11:38Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001784

Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, meron po bang naganap na konsultasyon sa Kongreso?

02:11:46Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001785

So, patuloy.

02:11:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001786

Kung tungkol sa rehabilitation ng Agus-Pulangi, as far as I know, wala po akong alam na [unclear] hindi po ito kasama sa mandato ng Mindanao [unclear].

02:12:04Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001787

Ang gusto ko lang po dito malaman ay kung ano po talaga ang position ng Minda sa pangangalagaan natin sa nag-iisa na lamang na government-owned.

02:12:17Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001788

Ito na lang po ang natitira. Kasi lahat po ng generation naibenta na ng PSALM. Ito na lang po ang kaisa-isa, ang Agus-Pulangi sa Mindanao.

02:12:28Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001789

As the Development Authority in Mindanao, would you allow the vital and strategic energy asset na mapunta na lamang sa kamay ng private corporation?

02:12:39Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001790

Again, you said you are not willing to turn it over or to sell it to private corporation.

02:12:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001791

Am I right?

02:12:49Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001792

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, tama po yun.

02:12:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001793

Yes, tama. Hindi natin ibebenta.

02:12:59Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001794

Hindi pwedeng ibebenta.

02:13:00Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001795

That would be my five times na I asked you and you said yes, na hindi ibebenta. Thank you for that.

02:13:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001796

Follow-up question, Mr. Speaker.

02:13:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001797

May ginawa po ba ang MinDA para makasiguro na ang mga tao sa Agus, sa Lanao, sa Bukidnon

02:13:17Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001798

sa Iligan o sa iba pang mga apektadong komunidad na kasama sila sa decision-making patungkol dito sa Agus-Pulangi?

02:13:26Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001799

Sigurado po ako ay importante po itong issue na ito para sa ating mga local communities.

02:13:32Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001800

Have you ever engaged the people from Lanao, Bukidno, even in Iligan?

02:13:39Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001801

Pagdating po rito, nagkaroon ba ng public consultation? Even yung rehabilitation lang?

02:13:47Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001802

Considering that Minda is a member of the Power Monitoring Committee, nagkaroon po ng consultation.

02:13:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001803

So there was consultation happen?

02:13:59Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001804

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

02:14:01Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001805

When? Where?

02:14:11Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001807

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, every year, nagkakaroon ng...

02:14:17Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001808

Mindanao Power Summit, kasama ang lahat ng stakeholders sa summit.

02:14:26Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001809

So every year, there's a consultation. Was the consultation included or it being mentioned, the privatization or even the rehabilitation of Agus-Pulangi? Kasama po ba yan

02:14:42Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001810

Pagkaano kayo?

02:14:44Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001811

Kasama, kasama yung...

02:14:45Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001812

Habang nagkakaroon kayo?

02:14:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001813

In February na summit.

02:14:49Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001814

Kasama yung rehabilitation?

02:14:52Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001815

And the privatization.

02:15:00Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001816

At tuloy-tuloy ang pag-uusap tungkol sa Agus-Pulangi, kasama ang Department of Energy.

02:15:08Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001817

When you say continuous dialogue, ano ho yung pinag-uusapan?

02:15:17Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001818

In privatization ho ba o hindi?

02:15:28Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001819

Only privatization of maintenance and rehabilitation.

02:15:33Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001820

So ano ho ang sabi ng mga tao from Bukidnon, Iligan, and Lanao? Are they in favor of privatization of Agus-Pulangi?

02:16:02Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001821

Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, ang gusto ng taong bayan ay rehabilitation.

02:16:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001821-split-2

Rehabilitation?

02:16:12Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001821-split-3

At continuously makapag-serve ang Agus-Pulangi.

02:16:17Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001821-split-4

The Mindanao people wanted?

02:16:18Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001821-split-5

One hundred percent.

02:16:20Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001822

Rehabilitation, but not privatization of Agus-Pulangi.

02:16:23Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001823

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for that. At least natutuwa ako, lalo na si Kong Serge Dagooc na nanonood ngayon sa atin.

02:16:32Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001824

Dahil nandun siya sa Mindanao ngayon. Umiiyak siguro habang pinanonood tayo na sa Agus-Pulangi yung tao.

02:16:39Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001825

He's a very dedicated person, being a lineman himself.

02:16:43Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001826

My next question.

02:16:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001827

Given Mindanao Development Authority mandate to promote, coordinate, and facilitate Mindanao's socioeconomic development,

02:16:58Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001828

is the agency truly protecting the interests of Mindanao when it supports or tolerates an arrangement that may place a major government-owned source of electricity under private control?

02:17:12Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001829

I guess, nasagot mo naman na ito, so we don't have to answer that. At least a sign of relief.

02:17:19Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001830

Did MinDA ever submit a written recommendation to the President, DOE, PSALM, NPC, even Congress, or any other responsible body concerning Agus-Pulangi?

02:17:34Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001831

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

02:17:42Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001832

Does that recommendation prioritize the long-term welfare of Mindanao residents?

02:17:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001833

Over short-term fiscal proceeds or private investor returns?

02:17:55Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001834

Yes, Your Honor.

02:17:58Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001835

Again, Mr. Speaker, before Congress approves its proposed fiscal year 2027 budget, Mindanao Development Authority should assure this August body that it is genuinely prioritizing the welfare of the people of Mindanao.

02:18:19Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001836

And is committed to the inclusive and sustainable development of the region.

02:18:24Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001837

That commitment must be demonstrated not only through plans, meetings, and policy statements, but through the protection of Mindanao's strategic public assets, particularly Agus-Pulangi.

02:18:43Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001838

These facilities are essential to Mindanao.

02:18:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001839

Mindanao's energy security and development.

02:18:52Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001840

They must remain subject to public accountability and must not be placed under the control of private entities at the expense of consumers, electric, cooperatives, host communities, and the broader public interest.

02:19:10Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001841

Accordingly, the Mindanao Development Authority should clearly and unequivocally state that it will not support

02:19:19Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001842

any arrangement that transfers effective control of Agus-Pulangi to private corporations without transparent justification, congressional consultation, strong consumer safeguards, and continuing public control.

02:19:38Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001843

Mindanao should also assure this committee that it is not siding with private corporations for their own commercial or financial interests.

02:19:49Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001850

The recommendation must be based solely on its statutory mandate and the long-term welfare of the people of Mindanao.

02:19:57Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001851

Minda should have a clear commitment to remain independent, transparent, accountable, and firmly aligned with the people of Mindanao.

02:20:07Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001852

Before I end my interpellation, Mr. Speaker, Congressman Dagooc and I strongly oppose the privatization of Agus-Pulangi.

02:20:21Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001853

Yan na lang po ang nag-iisang generation po ng ating gobyerno.

02:20:29Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001854

Sana manatili pong yan government-owned para po sa ating mga kababayan sa Mindanao.

02:20:35Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001855

Again, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

02:20:37Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001856

And of course, to the good-looking sponsor and to the rest of Mindanao Development Authority family.

02:20:47Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001857

With that, Mr. Speaker, there being no more members of the minority who wishes to interpolate,

02:20:55Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001858

I move to terminate the sponsorship and debate for the budget of Mindanao Development Authority.

02:21:02Source

Rep. Presley C. De Jesus

asr-001859

I so move, Mr. Speaker.

02:21:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001860

Thank you.

02:21:06Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001861

The Honorable

02:21:07Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001862

Presley De Jesus.

02:21:09Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001863

What does the House say, Majority Leader?

02:21:11Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-001864

Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations of the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority.

02:21:26Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001865

There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority.

02:21:34Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001866

Is there any objection?

02:21:36Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001867

The Chair hears none.

02:21:38Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001868

The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority are hereby terminated.

02:21:45Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001869

Congratulations.

02:21:48Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001870

Majority Leader?

02:21:50Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-001871

Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

02:21:58Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001872

Is there any objection?

02:21:59Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001873

The Chair hears none. Motion is approved.

02:22:02Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001874

Majority Leader?

02:22:03Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-001876

Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the guests?

02:22:08Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-001877

The heads and officials of the Marawi Compensation Board.

02:22:12Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-001878

Chairperson Attorney Muslimen T. Macarambon, Sr.

02:22:16Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-001879

And the board members, Dr. Jamaica L. Dimaporo, Attorney Mabandes S. Diron, Jr., Engineer Nasser Tabao, Attorney Rasmiya Lawi, and Executive Director Sittie Raifa M. Pamaloy-Hassan.

02:22:33Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-001880

Thank you.

02:22:35Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001882

To the family of the Marawi Compensation Board, headed by its chairperson, Attorney Muslimen T. Macarambon, Sr., welcome to the House of Representatives.

02:22:49Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001883

Majority Leader?

02:22:50Source

Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.

asr-001884

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, the Vice Chair, Nicanor M. Briones of Party-list AGAP, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

02:23:05Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001885

The Honorable Niki Briones is recognized. Please proceed.

02:23:10Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001899

Mr. Speaker, it is my honor and privilege to sponsor today the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

02:23:22Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001900

I now welcome questions on the budget of the MCB.

02:23:32Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001901

Thank you, Honorable Briones, Majority Leader.

02:23:35Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-001903

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula from Akbayan Party-list for her interpellation.

02:23:47Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001904

The Honorable Ismula from Akbayan is recognized.

02:23:51Source

Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.

asr-001905

Please proceed.

02:23:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001906

Assalamualaikum, Warahmatullahi, Wabarakatuhu.

02:23:57Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001907

Magandang gabi po sa ating lahat.

02:23:59Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001908

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, may breakdown po ba?

02:24:05Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001909

Nang budget utilization ng MCB for the past year, ilang porsyento ang napunta sa actual compensation versus operation?

02:24:18Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001910

Yes, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues.

02:24:22Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001911

Meron po tayong breakdown sa utilization ng budget ng year 2025 and 2026.

02:24:30Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001912

And total utilization for the program for the year 2025.

02:24:41Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001913

Actually, 95.6% of the total budget was for the program.

02:24:56Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001914

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

02:24:58Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001915

For the compensation of the claim,

02:25:03Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001916

or the compensation of the claimant.

02:25:16Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001917

Obligation rate of the release allotment, 64%.

02:25:25Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001920

64%.

02:25:28Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001921

42%

02:25:30Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001922

Disbursement rate

02:25:33Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001923

versus the obligation is 66%

02:25:35Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001924

Mr. Speaker

02:25:37Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001925

Your Honor

02:25:38Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001926

Distinguished Sponsor

02:25:41Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001927

Under the 2027

02:25:43Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001928

NEP of the Marawi

02:25:45Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001929

Compensation Board, the target

02:25:47Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001930

for percentage of eligible

02:25:49Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001931

claims awarded and

02:25:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001932

paid is set at

02:25:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001933

90%. Ilang

02:25:55Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001934

claimants po ang

02:25:57Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001935

maa-award kung ma-hit

02:25:59Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001936

ang 90% target at ilan

02:26:01Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001937

naman ang matitira na

02:26:03Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001938

kailangan pang bayaran

02:26:04Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001939

So

02:26:06Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001940

Mr. Speaker

02:26:09Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001941

sa 2027

02:26:10Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001942

budget

02:26:12Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001943

ang 90% is 684

02:26:15Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001944

claimants

02:26:17Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001945

Actually, 90% is

02:26:25Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001946

684

02:26:27Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001947

and the remaining claimants

02:26:29Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001948

is 3,600

02:26:30Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001949

I'm sorry, Mr. Sponsor

02:26:33Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001950

Pakiulit lamang po

02:26:35Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001951

684

02:26:37Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001952

claimants ang 90%

02:26:39Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001953

Ang matitira

02:26:40Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001954

Ang remaining claimants is

02:26:44Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001955

3,600

02:26:45Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001956

Because the budget is only

02:26:50Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001957

1 billion pesos

02:26:53Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001958

Mr. Speaker

02:26:55Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001959

Your Honor

02:26:55Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001960

Yes, magkano ang total

02:26:57Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001961

budget allocated to reach

02:26:59Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001962

this target po?

02:27:01Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001963

Actually, we need

02:27:02Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001964

7.6

02:27:05Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001965

billion

02:27:06Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001966

to

02:27:07Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001967

accommodate all the claimants

02:27:10Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001968

for the

02:27:12Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001969

compensation of

02:27:15Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001970

all the claimants

02:27:16Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001971

Madam, Mr.

02:27:19Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001972

Speaker, Mr. Sponsor

02:27:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001973

kung sakaling hindi maabot ang

02:27:22Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001974

90% target, ano po

02:27:25Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001975

ang budgetary implications

02:27:27Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001976

may reallocation plan po ba

02:27:29Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001977

para masiguro na hindi

02:27:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001978

masasayang ang pondo?

02:27:34Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001979

Actually,

02:27:36Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001980

Mr. Speaker,

02:27:37Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001981

Your Honor

02:27:37Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001982

yung remaining budget

02:27:41Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001983

meron naman tayong continuing

02:27:42Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001984

appropriation for

02:27:44Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001985

2028

02:27:46Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001986

So,

02:27:49Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001987

magagamit din

02:27:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001988

budget natin sa

02:27:53Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001989

2027

02:27:54Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001990

Pero sumatotal po,

02:27:57Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001991

Actually, yung 1 billion

02:27:58Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001992

in the

02:28:00Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001993

first quarter

02:28:03Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001994

ma-utilize na yung

02:28:05Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001995

1 billion

02:28:06Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-001996

budget

02:28:08Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001997

Pero sumatotal po, ang kinakailangan ninyo

02:28:11Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001998

para makompensate na po

02:28:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-001999

ang kabuo ang

02:28:15Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002000

beneficiaries natin ay

02:28:17Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002001

sinabi nyo po kanina na sa

02:28:19Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002002

7.6 billion, tama po?

02:28:21Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002003

Tama po yan

02:28:22Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002004

Ibig sabihin, for 2027

02:28:25Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002005

up to 2028

02:28:27Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002006

8,

02:28:28Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002007

lumalabas na hindi man lang tayo

02:28:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002008

kumakalahati sa kailangan

02:28:33Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002009

ng Marawi Compensation Board

02:28:35Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002010

Tama po ba?

02:28:36Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002011

Totoo po yan, kung hindi po madadagdagan

02:28:39Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002012

ang budget ng Marawi Compensation Board

02:28:42Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002013

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor

02:28:45Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002014

Hanggang kailan na lang po ito

02:28:47Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002015

ang plano ng MCB?

02:28:50Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002016

Hanggang

02:28:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002017

anong taon na lamang po?

02:28:53Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002018

Up to

02:28:54Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002019

May

02:28:56Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002020

31, 2028

02:28:58Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002021

2028

02:29:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002022

So kung sakali man, 1 billion

02:29:03Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002023

ngayong 2027

02:29:04Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002024

at sabihin na natin

02:29:06Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002025

1 billion na naman sa 2028

02:29:08Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002026

lumalabas na hindi po talaga

02:29:11Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002027

makakompensate lahat

02:29:12Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002028

ng ating mga beneficiaries

02:29:15Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002029

sa Marawi Siege, tama po ba?

02:29:17Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002030

Tama po yan

02:29:18Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002031

dahil na

02:29:20Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002032

kulang yung budget na

02:29:22Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002033

sa NEP sa ngayon.

02:29:24Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002034

Ang

02:29:25Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002035

pag-asa

02:29:26Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002036

na lang po natin ay

02:29:27Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002037

kung sakaling

02:29:28Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002038

madaragdagan yung budget.

02:29:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002039

Maraming salamat po, no?

02:29:33Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002040

Distinguished Sponsor

02:29:35Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002041

May performance benchmark po ba

02:29:37Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002042

ang MCB para sa

02:29:39Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002043

claim processing speed at

02:29:41Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002044

paano ito minomonitor at

02:29:43Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002045

nire-report sa publiko?

02:29:59Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002046

Meron tayong, merong

02:30:03Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002047

ah, performance

02:30:04Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002048

benchmark.

02:30:05Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002049

May quota every month

02:30:06Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002050

from 320 to 350

02:30:09Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002051

claimants resolved.

02:30:18Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002052

And then,

02:30:20Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002053

yung progress report

02:30:22Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002054

every month, nagsa-submit sila

02:30:24Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002055

sa Office of the President

02:30:25Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002056

of MRD,

02:30:27Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002057

MRD,

02:30:29Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002058

PBM, and to the board,

02:30:30Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002059

check if quota is reached.

02:30:33Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002060

Reporting

02:30:34Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002061

through social media,

02:30:37Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002062

weekly posts indicating

02:30:38Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002063

the docket numbers,

02:30:40Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002064

through

02:30:42Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002065

ocular inspection so they can track

02:30:44Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002066

when it's their turn

02:30:45Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002067

to be inspected.

02:30:50Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002068

Meron pong docket system

02:30:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002069

where the claimant can ask online

02:30:54Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002070

for the status of their claim,

02:30:57Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002071

where

02:30:57Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002072

they can enter name, DACET number,

02:31:00Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002073

ID, then information of

02:31:01Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002074

officer of MCB can check

02:31:03Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002075

the status and will reply

02:31:06Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002076

via email

02:31:06Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002077

regarding the status.

02:31:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002078

Maraming salamat po.

02:31:12Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002079

Under the 2027

02:31:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002080

budget po of the MCB,

02:31:16Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002081

meron bang budget

02:31:17Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002082

for support services like roads

02:31:19Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002083

and transportation,

02:31:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002084

especially those who were relocated

02:31:23Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002085

in other areas po?

02:31:27Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002086

Ang budget po natin ay para sa

02:31:35Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002087

Marawi Siege Victims

02:31:37Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002088

Compensation only.

02:31:39Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002089

Ibig sabihin wala po tayo dito

02:31:42Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002090

for support services. Tama po.

02:31:44Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002091

Wala po.

02:31:45Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002091-split-2

Maraming salamat po.

02:31:47Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002092

As a follow-up,

02:31:49Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002093

does the MCB have a plan

02:31:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002094

for the provision of making the

02:31:52Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002095

relocation dignified

02:31:54Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002096

and sustainable for the

02:31:56Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002097

Marawi Siege Victims?

02:32:39Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002106

So tuloy-tuloy po ang pagresolba ng mga kailangan ng mga claim [unclear].

02:32:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002107

Yes, distinguished sponsor, or no? Naintindihan ko po ito. So under the Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Act, na lamang po few years left. Gaya ng nasabi ko kanina, nasagot niyo rin na hanggang 2028 na lang to fulfill the mandate of the Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Act.

02:33:20Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002108

Ngayon, dahil sa napakaliit ng inyong pondo kada taon at medyo malaki pa ang kailangan para ma-complete ito, ano po ba yung concrete timeline or milestone ng MCB to ensure na yung full disbursement po natin sa ating mga beneficiaries [unclear] sunset provision takes effect?

02:34:04Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002109

Actually, it depends on the available budget, and MCB will ensure that it will continue its adjudication function despite [unclear].

02:34:18Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002110

Ibig sabihin po ba nito, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, sakaling hindi po nabigay yung full amount of budget natin hanggang 2028, ibig sabihin wala na pong continuation ng plan na ito.

02:34:36Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002111

Hindi na po talaga makukompensate yung mga beneficiaries na hindi napagbigyan dahil po lang sa pondo.

02:34:45Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002112

Actually, after the last...

02:34:48Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002113

After the last lifespan of this MCB, it will be turned over to DHSUD for the [unclear] implementation of giving compensation.

02:35:06Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002114

Yes po. Mr. Sponsor, yung opisina ko po, we've received reports from CSOs that confusion has arisen among claimants.

02:35:18Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002115

confusion has arisen among claimants.

02:35:18Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002116

Dahil sa paglipat ng thousands of property damage claims sa NHA, maaari bang ipaliwanag ang dahilan ng transfer na ito?

02:35:31Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002117

Ah.

02:35:34Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002118

Actually, there's a moa between MCB and NHA.

02:35:48Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002121

In transferring the claim under Section 5 of Republic Act 11696 to the National Housing Authority.

02:36:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002122

Salamat po.

02:36:01Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002123

So, yun, Mr. Speaker.

02:36:05Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002124

Salamat po, Mr. Sponsor.

02:36:07Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002125

Paano po kaya natin masisiguro na ang MCB, hindi na ito magdudulot ng dagdag na stress at further trauma?

02:36:18Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002126

Sa ating mga biktima ng Marawi siege, lalo pat, ito transfer na natin sa NHA.

02:36:25Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002127

Kasi po, may nareceive po kaming informations na kung sakali ma-transfer na ito sa NHA, dagdag stress daw po ito sa kanila dahil magre-reset na naman daw po sila ng kanilang mga requirements.

02:36:48Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002128

Hindi naman, Mr. Speaker, hindi naman matitigil yung, hindi sila, hindi magbabak to zero ang MCB.

02:37:04Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002130

Kumbaga, kung ano yung natapos, itutuloy lamang ng NHA.

02:37:12Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002131

Maraming salamat po.

02:37:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002132

Finally, distinguished sponsor, anong mekanism ang pinapairal ng MCB

02:37:18Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002139

para ang compensation process ay hindi lamang mabilis kundi transparent at free from bureaucratic delays or inconsistencies?

02:37:39Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002140

Mr. Speaker, as a quasi-judicial body, we have to ensure na tama at eligible ang mga babayaran.

02:37:48Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002141

But from time to time, we regularly review and streamline the process. The process generally involves filing, technical and legal evaluation, clarification hearing when necessary, deliberation and decision by the Board, posting, publication, and awarding and payment. For structural claims there must first be technical assessment,

02:38:18Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002142

which may involve validation and ocular inspection. Claims then undergo legal evaluation before being raffled to a division for adjudication. We have streamlined the process by allowing claims below 10 million to be decided at the division level instead of requiring every claim to undergo en banc deliberation, thereby removing a significant [unclear].

02:38:48Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002143

Aside from regular reporting and monitoring of accomplishment, mentioned earlier including assessment of quota rates, available din po ang mga reporting data through the website.

02:39:02Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002144

That's to be transparent.

02:39:06Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002145

Yes.

02:39:06Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002146

Salamat po, Distinguished Sponsor.

02:39:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002147

Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, nine years ago na po ang Marawi siege.

02:39:15Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002148

Nakakabahala na hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin makuha ng ating mga kapatid sa Marawi ang hustisya para sa kanilang mga pamilya, mga mahal sa buhay at bahay at kabuhayang nawala.

02:39:32Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002149

Hindi tayo po papayag na mambigo natin sila.

02:39:35Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002150

Sana po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, makita naman po natin ang prioridad dito sa pag-compensate po natin.

02:39:45Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002151

Sa mga naging biktima po ng Marawi siege.

02:39:49Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002152

Kung sa, kung 1 billion pesos po ang kanilang pondo right now na sinasabi po ng MCB na ito ay kulang at ang kailangan nila hanggang sa matapos itong lahat ay nasa 7.6 billion, eh mukhang hindi po ata natin ito tinutupad.

02:40:07Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002153

At hindi po tayo nagiging compliant sa naging batas po natin, no?

02:40:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002154

So, sana.

02:40:15Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002155

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, madagdagan naman po natin itong budget po ng MCB. Maraming salamat po.

02:40:39Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002156

Majority Leader.

02:40:40Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-002157

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative...

02:40:45Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-002158

Rene Luis Co.

02:40:50Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002158-split-2

The Honorable Rene Luis Co is recognized for her interpellation.

02:40:54Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002159

Please proceed.

02:40:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002160

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening for Distinguished Sponsor and the Marawi Compensation Board.

02:41:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002161

Gusto ko lang pong mag-take off doon sa questioning ng ating colleague.

02:41:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002162

Kung saan, binring up niya po at magpapa-explain sa...

02:41:15Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002163

...recent Memorandum of Agreement.

02:41:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002164

Ito po ay nasa news reports, and mismo ang Marawi Compensation Board po ang nagpahayag na yung mga kaso for compensation were transferred to the jurisdiction of the NHA.

02:41:37Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002165

Pwede po bang malaman yung basis, legal basis, for this transfer?

02:41:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002167

...

02:41:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002169

Ang Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ang basis po ay yung Section 4 and Section 5 of Republic Act 11690.

02:42:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002170

Na doon po nagsasabi, may nakalagay po doon na ang NHA po ang maghahawak or ipapahawak or pwedeng ipahawak sa ibang ahensya.

02:42:15Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002171

Ipapag natapos na po or nag-proceed na sa sunset clause ng Marawi Compensation Board.

02:42:39Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002172

Thank you.

02:42:45Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002173

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues,

02:42:57Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002174

Under the sunset clause, yun ang D-SUD ang mag-implement ng pangsyon ng Marawi Compensation Board.

02:43:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002175

Maari po bang makahingi po ng kopya ang representasyong ito?

02:43:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002176

Sa mga memorandums of agreement between the NCM and the NHA regarding that transfer, Madam Speaker.

02:43:37Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002177

We will give you a copy of the memorandum of agreement, Madam Speaker.

02:43:45Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002178

Ito po ang NCM and NHA.

02:43:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002179

Considering that there is clear basis, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, in Section 5,

02:43:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002180

RA 11696 as to the compensation under the right of way,

02:44:03Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002181

would MCB know if there was a line item under the NHA to fund compensation for these transferred cases?

02:44:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002182

Alam naman po natin na dahil po sa siege, marami pong mga daanan ang nasira at kung ano pong kailangang repairs na kailangang gawin.

02:44:23Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002183

Is the MCB aware na may line item?

02:44:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002184

O ba ang NHA to fund compensation for these transferred cases?

02:44:37Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002185

For the year 2027, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, wala pong...

02:44:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002186

Wala po.

02:44:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002187

Considering the following, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

02:44:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002188

we will make a manifestation that the Committee on Appropriations make the needed amendment to the budget of NHA.

02:44:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002189

To ensure that these amounts are funded.

02:45:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002190

under the GAA. Sayang naman po kung may ganito ngang MOA o kung hindi man po for implementation ngayon ay magkakaroon po ang NHA ng role for compensation of these transferred cases pero hindi naman po mababadyetan. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, let that show on the record.

02:45:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002191

Ang susunod ko pong tanong Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, malapit po sa puso ng kinatawan na ito ay kung kamusta po ang pag-aaral ng mga apektadong kabataang maranaw tungkol po sa state ng schooling, infrastructure, and yung pagtutuloy-tuloy nilang pag-aaral.

02:45:45Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002192

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, does the MCV have a list of schools that were affected by the siege?

02:45:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002193

Ito po, sila po ba ay naayos na? Kung hindi pa kumpleto ang pagsasayayos sa kanilang lahat, ano po ang status sa ngayon?

02:46:00Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002194

Madam Speaker, Your Honor, ang status po, meron na pong 10 four-story school buildings with a capacity of 9,000 to 10,000 students.

02:46:18Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002195

By next month, according to the NHA,

02:46:21Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002196

na meron nang malilipatan next month, Madam Speaker.

02:46:31Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002196-split-2

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, tama po ba narinig ko: ten buildings?

02:46:36Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002196-split-3

Ten four-story buildings.

02:46:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002196-split-4

Ten four-story buildings na kaya pong mag-house in ng 9,000 to 10,000 students.

02:46:46Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002196-split-5

Yes.

02:46:49Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002197

At sa ngayon ay hindi pa po ito bukas, ongoing ang construction. Next month ay bubuksan na. Tama po ba, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

02:46:59Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002198

Tama po yan, Madam Speaker, Your Honor.

02:47:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002199

So, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, prior po to next month or as of now, saan po nag-aaral ang mga kabataan?

02:47:15Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002200

Actually, meron namang temporary school.

02:47:21Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002201

Binigay ng LGU, Madam Speaker, Your Honor.

02:47:25Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002202

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, maghihingi na lang po, kung maaari, ang kinatawan na ito ng listahan ng mga paaralan na ayos na, aayusin pa, ano pong kailangang status para po ma-check kung maayos po bang naitatawid ang access to education ng mga kabataan.

02:47:49Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002203

Posible po ba yan, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor?

02:47:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002204

Yes.

02:47:55Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002205

Thank you, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

02:47:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002206

Ang huling nating line of questioning ay tungkol po sa na-bring up na rin po ay restitution.

02:48:05Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002207

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, isang dekada na halos pagkatapos ng 2017 siege, full restitution remains an unfulfilled promise for thousands of Maranaos.

02:48:19Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002208

While the Marawi Compensation Board was authorized under RA 11696 to compensate victims,

02:48:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002209

meron nga po tayong natanggap na report na 3,100 housing-related claims are being offloaded to NHA.

02:48:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002210

Habang thousands of internally displaced persons or IDPs remain stranded in temporary shelters nearly a decade later.

02:48:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002211

Meron tayong mga paunang explanation ng mga kahirapan sa mga...

02:48:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002212

listahan, sa records, na sa atin, no, kailangan pong masikap na maigpawan para po mabilis na mabigay na sa mga IDPs at hanggang ngayon ay hindi pa rin nakakamit ng justisya dahil po sa nangyari.

02:49:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002213

Ang tatanong ko na lang po, ano po bang measures in place ang nariyan po ngayon sa Marawi Compensation Board to prevent,

02:49:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002214

files from getting lost in bureaucratic transitions? Meron po tayong paglilipat ng records na ibibigay sa NHA.

02:49:29Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002215

Paano natin may ensure na yung listahan na po ito, kumpleto, ito po ay na-check na, kumbaga, at hindi po mawawala?

02:50:09Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002216

Madam Speaker, mayroon pong signed terms of reference ang MCB at saka ang NHA

02:50:21Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002217

para sigurado na maayos yung transition of files ng MCB to NHA.

02:50:33Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002218

So nagbibigay po ng paninigurado at commitment ang MCV na ang transition ng mga documents ay magiging maayos,

02:50:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002219

hindi po sana mawawala yung mga listahan at kung may validation na kailangan gawin ay gagawin po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

02:50:49Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002220

Tama po ba yun?

02:50:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002221

Yes, Your Honor, Madam Speaker.

02:50:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002222

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ang huli na lang nating tanong ay nakita naman natin na nakakaantig ng puso na a small fraction of the targeted permanent housing units

02:51:09Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002223

ang natuturn over pa lamang sa displaced residents.

02:51:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002224

Meron po bang concrete steps na ginagawa to accelerate turnover?

02:51:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002225

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

02:51:31Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002226

Actually, wala na sa MCV yun.

02:51:37Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002227

NHA na ang mag-continue ng lahat ng dapat ayusin para tuloy-tuloy na mabigyan ng mga...

02:51:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002228

na claimants ng competition.

02:51:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002229

Pero tama po ba, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, wala pa sa NHA sa ngayon.

02:51:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002230

So, nasa kapangyarihan pa rin po ng MCV sa ngayon na tumaha ng concrete steps to accelerate unit turnover.

02:52:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002231

So, baka po pwedeng makapagdetali ano po yung pwedeng magawa para po mas mapabilis pa.

02:52:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002232

Lalo na't ayaw din naman nating paabutin sa sunset clause.

02:52:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002233

So, bago po, may marami pa rin naghihintay dito sa turnover.

02:52:40Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002234

Ang NHA ang sa settlement at ang MCB ay sa compensation lang.

02:52:49Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002235

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

02:52:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002236

Marami pa rin pong may concerns sa Marawi Compensation Board.

02:52:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002237

Magiging bukas po ba ang MCV sa isang dialogo sa mga internally displaced persons,

02:53:01Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002238

sa lahat ng mga apektadong sektor para po mas mapabilis yung hindi lang turnover ng unit,

02:53:09Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002239

pero ma-streamline yung concerns at maayos na matawid yung kanilang mga hinahing para po maaksyonan ng MCV?

02:53:18Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002240

Willing po ang MCV na...

02:53:20Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002241

Makipag-dialog para sa lahat ng kailangan gawin sa mga claimants, Your Honor, Mr. Speaker.

02:53:33Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002242

Maraming salamat po. Let the record reflect ang pagbukas sa dialogo na gusto po natin sa susunod at sa malapit na panahon ay mangyari

02:53:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002243

para po yung ating mga naging issue na ina-identify ay mabilis po.

02:53:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002244

At sana po yung NHA, sila din po ay appraised nun sa mga steps na tinitake natin.

02:53:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002245

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, that is all. Thank you very much.

02:54:01Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002246

Majority Leader.

02:54:02Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-002247

Madam Speaker, may recognize Representative Sara Elago for her interpellation.

02:54:07Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002248

The Honorable Elago is hereby recognized for interpellation.

02:54:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002249

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

02:54:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002250

Nais ko na lamang pong maituloy yung pagtatanong ng ating mga kasamahan tungkol sa...

02:54:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002251

PONDO ng MCB.

02:54:24Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002252

Ayon ho sa ulat ng MCB, as of August 31, 2026, mayroon itong 4.362 billion total appropriations,

02:54:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002253

kung saan 2.362 billion ang released allotments.

02:54:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002254

Nakasaad din na mayroon pang 2 billion pesos na unallocated amount pending further release from DBM.

02:54:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002255

Maari ba nating malaman?

02:54:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002256

Ano ang dahilan kung bakit hindi pa nailalabas ang natitirapan?

02:54:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002257

Parang 2 billion pesos.

02:55:03Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002258

Actually, hindi pa na-re-release yung 2 billion from DBM, Your Honor.

02:55:14Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002259

And I have the review pa ng DBM, Your Honor.

02:55:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002260

At Madam Speaker,

02:55:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002261

ay ma-re-release na ito.

02:55:22Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002262

Dahil sinabi din ng MCB na pagkatapos ng 2026 ay wala na silang matitira na pondo.

02:55:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002263

Lalong-lalo na para sa 2027 ay napakaliit lamang ng kanilang pondo na naisama sa General Appropriations Bill

02:55:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002264

habang napakaraming mga pending pang-claims.

02:55:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002265

Ngayon, ang MCB po ay nailikha sa ilalim ng Republic Act No. 11696 at nagsimula.

02:55:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002266

Ang operations noong January 30, 2023.

02:55:56Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002267

Nakatakdang matapos ang five-year mandate nito sa June 3, 2028.

02:56:00Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002268

As of August 2026, may halos dalawang taon na lamang ang board.

02:56:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002269

Sa kasalukuyang mga backlog at funding requirements na narinig po natin sa ating deliberasyon ngayong gabi,

02:56:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002270

kumpiyansa po ba ang Marawi Compensation Board na matatapos nito ang lahat ng statutory responsibilities nito

02:56:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002271

bago mag-expire ang kanyang mandato?

02:56:28Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002272

Your Honor, Madam Speaker,

02:56:30Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002273

pagdating sa adjudication process, matatapos nila,

02:56:38Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002274

ang hindi lang nila magagawa ay yung makapag-disburse dahil kulang ang ating pondong inilaan

02:56:48Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002275

para sa mga...

02:56:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002276

Narinig natin, Madam Speaker, na kulang ang pondo.

02:56:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002277

At kung hindi matatapos ang lahat ng claims bago ang June 2028,

02:57:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002278

meron bang contingency plan ang ating pamahalaan?

02:57:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002279

Sino ang magpapatuloy ng proseso ng pagtitiyak ng compensation,

02:57:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002280

ng reparation, lahat ng pagbabayad ng remaining claims?

02:57:18Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002281

Actually, Madam Speaker, Your Honor,

02:57:20Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002282

nasa batas naman na ang magti-takeover ay ang DHSUD.

02:57:26Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002283

So, DHSUD na ang magpapatuloy para sa processing ng mga compensation para sa mga claimant.

02:57:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002284

Disyud na ang magpapatuloy.

02:57:39Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002285

Ngunit, paano po maapektuhan ang inyong trabaho ng Executive Order No. 78

02:57:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002286

na pinirmahan noong November 28, 2024?

02:57:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002287

Sabi po dito ang magsisilbi na sekretariat

02:57:56Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002288

or magiging attached ang board dito sa Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation and Development

02:58:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002289

para daw po sa policy and program coordination

02:58:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002290

para matiyak ang consistency ng goals at objectives ng MCB

02:58:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002291

sa lahat ng policies at trust ng national government.

02:58:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002292

Ibig sabihin po ba nito?

02:58:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002293

Maski po yung role ninyo bilang attached sa Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation and Development

02:58:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002294

ay hanggang 2028 na lamang po?

02:58:38Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002295

Mukhang ganun po ang mangyayari dahil yung MCB wala nang tapos na yung kanilang lifespan.

02:58:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002296

Madam Speaker, kung ang mga miyembro ngayon ng Marawi Compensation Board

02:58:56Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002297

ang pipili at poposisyon, sa tingin niyo po ba dapat i-extend ang mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board

02:59:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002298

hanggat sa hindi natatapos yung pagbabayad ng mga remaining claims?

02:59:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002299

Siyempre po, dapat matiyak na matapos ito sa takdang panahon at hindi yung pangmatagalan.

02:59:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002300

Kasi yun na nga yung nangyari po ngayon.

02:59:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002301

Natumagal na.

02:59:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002302

Na halos magsasampung taon na, nang hindi pa rin natitiyak yung mabilis na pagbabayad ng mga claims.

02:59:26Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002303

Mas maganda sana kung makakaroon ng extension pero siguro makangailangan niya ng batas.

02:59:35Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002304

May mga bills ang alam ko sa Congress at sa Senate to extend the life of Marawi Compensation Board.

02:59:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002305

Madam Speaker, ang datos mismo ng Marawi Compensation Board ay nagpapakita na malaki na ang pondong nailabas para sa Compensation Program.

02:59:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002306

Ngunit mayroon pa rin...

03:00:00Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002307

mas malaking bilang pa ng claims na kailangang risolbahin at pondohan.

03:00:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002308

As of August 2026, 5,945 claims remain pending.

03:00:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002309

Sa ating 2027 General Appropriations Bill, naglalaan lamang ng 1 billion pesos para sa compensation program

03:00:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002310

kumpara sa malaking kinakailangan na 5.28 billion proposal ng board.

03:00:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002311

Ang funding gap ay tumataginting po napakalaki na 4.015 billion pesos.

03:00:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002312

Kaya napakahalagang malinaw na hindi lamang kung gaano karaming claims ang naprocess,

03:00:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002313

kundi dapat may sapat at tiyak na pondo para sa lahat ng claimants,

03:00:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002314

na matitiyak natin na may mekanismo ng transparency,

03:00:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002315

matitiyak na ang bawat piso ng pondo ay madidiretsyo mismo sa mga claimants

03:00:56Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002316

na ating mga kababayan na apektado bago matapos ang mandato ng board.

03:01:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002317

At bilang panghuli, kinatawagan na rin natin ang Kongreso na ito na magpatawag po sana tayo

03:01:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002318

ng pagdinig tungkol sa potensyal sa posible na pag-extend ng taon ng mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board

03:01:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002319

para lang po sa interes ng karapatang pantao, para sa interes ng justisya,

03:01:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002320

para sa interes.

03:01:26Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002321

ng pagtitiyak na nga nararapat na kompensasyon at reparasyon sa lahat ng mga 2017 Marawi Siege internally displaced persons.

03:01:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002322

Maraming maraming salamat Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

03:01:42Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002323

Majority Leader.

03:01:45Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-002324

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Antonio Tinio.

03:01:52Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002324-split-2

The Honorable Tinio is recognized

03:01:56Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002325

of ACT Teachers for his interpellation

03:01:57Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-002326

on the proposed budget of the MCB.

03:02:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002327

Thank you Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, maraming na pong natanong at pasisimple na lang po natin

03:02:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002328

at ididin yung mga importanteng punto kaugnay sa budget ng Marawi Compensation Board.

03:02:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002329

So, pakikita nga po natin na ang proposed budget ay

03:02:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002330

1.247 billion pesos at sa halagang yun ay 1 billion pesos ang para sa Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Fund.

03:02:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002331

So, nabanggit na po na papalapit na ang katapusan ng mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board.

03:02:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002332

So, sabi nga doon sa Republic Act 11696.

03:02:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002333

Merong sunset clause.

03:02:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002334

Diba?

03:03:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002335

At sabi rito,

03:03:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002336

The board shall complete its work within five years from the effectivity of the IRR.

03:03:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002337

After such period, it shall become punctus officio.

03:03:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002338

Pagkatapos nun, ipapasa na sa DSUD.

03:03:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002339

The DSUD shall continue to exercise the powers and functions of the board.

03:03:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002341

to disburse and process any and all pending compensation due to qualified claimants.

03:03:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002342

So, ganun po ang nakatakda sa batas.

03:03:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002343

Of course, dapat ituring ang sunset clause na ito bilang hamon sa kasalukuyang board.

03:03:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002344

Huwag na nating intayin na umabot yung deadline at may maiwan pang trabaho sa DSUD.

03:03:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002345

So, ngayon,

03:03:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002346

ulitin lang natin,

03:03:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002347

ang Pondo for Compensation ngayon ay 1 billion.

03:04:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002348

So, malinaw po, nadiinan na, kapos ito.

03:04:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002349

Magkano po ang kailangan pa para makompleto ang trabaho ng compensation

03:04:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002350

bago marating yung dulo o wakas ng mandato

03:04:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002351

ng

03:04:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002354

Marawi Compensation Board? Ito po ay sa

03:04:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002355

after May 31, 2028. Tama po ba?

03:04:33Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002356

Tama po.

03:04:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002357

At magkano po ang kabuuang kailangan para sa ilang bilang ng mga victims?

03:04:43Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002358

Climants?

03:04:44Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002359

Mangangailangan po tayo, Madam Speaker,

03:04:47Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002360

Mr. Sponsor,

03:04:49Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002361

distinguished colleague,

03:04:51Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002362

na mga 6.6 billion

03:04:54Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002363

on top of 1 billion.

03:04:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002364

So, total kailangan, 7.6 billion for 2027, 1 billion lamang

03:05:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002365

ang nakalaan. At muli, yung 1 billion ay para sa ilang bilang po ito muli ng claimants?

03:05:15Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002366

4,360 claimants.

03:05:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002367

4,000?

03:05:21Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002368

For the total, 7.6 billion.

03:05:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002369

Okay.

03:05:25Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002370

Ang claimants na pwedeng mabigyan is 4,300.

03:05:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002371

4,300. So, yung 1 billion po, ilan lang po ang mabibigyan diyan?

03:05:34Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002372

760.

03:05:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002373

760 lamang po. So, well, sa proposed budget for 2027, nakatali po ang kamay

03:05:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002374

ng Marawi Compensation Board.

03:05:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002375

700, ilan po?

03:05:59Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002376

760 claimants.

03:06:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002377

760 claimants lang po ang mabibigyan.

03:06:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002378

So, ang usapin lang naman po rito ay ano ba ang kakayanin ng Marawi Compensation Board?

03:06:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002379

Padaling sabihin, dagdagan natin ang pondo pero kaya bang ma-award ng Marawi Compensation Board ang mas malaking bilang kesa dito sa 760 families?

03:06:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002380

Ano po ang kayang gawin?

03:06:44Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002381

Distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker, kayang-kaya po yan. Ang kailangan lang po natin ay pondo.

03:06:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002382

Kayang-kaya. Magbigay po tayo ng kongkretong numero. Ano ang kakayanin?

03:07:02Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002383

Actually, yung 760, one to two months.

03:07:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002384

In one to two months ay kaya po yan?

03:07:11Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002385

Kaya bigyan.

03:07:12Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002386

Opo.

03:07:13Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002387

Kung may pondo po tayo, eh bago mag-lapse yung mandato, mapoprovide po natin, mabibigyan po natin yung lahat ng claimants.

03:07:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002388

Baka may maibigay po kayong mas kongkretong target na kakayanin realistically sa isang taon, fiscal year 2027.

03:07:43Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002389

We request the distinguished sponsor to give an estimate. Ilan ang kakayanin?

03:07:52Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002390

3,500 sa isang taon, Your Honor.

03:07:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002391

3,500. Hindi lang 760, kundi 3,500 claimants ang kayang mabigyan.

03:08:06Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002392

Yes, Your Honor.

03:08:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002393

Okay. Magkano po ang kailangan pondo para sa 3,500 na yan?

03:08:12Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002394

5 billion, Madam Speaker.

03:08:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002395

5 billion pesos. Okay. So, kung may 1 billion na kailangan dagdagan ng 4, ganun po ba?

03:08:27Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002396

Tama po. Tama po.

03:08:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002397

4 billion pesos additional.

03:08:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002398

4 billion.

03:08:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002399

Okay. Well, Madam Speaker, malinaw naman po narinig natin na sabi ng Marawi Compensation Board,

03:08:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002400

kaya daw nila makapagbigay, mag-award to 3,600 families at mangangailangan ng additional 4 billion pesos.

03:08:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002401

So, ito po ba ay naparating ng Marawi Compensation Board sa Committee on Appropriations sa takdang panahon?

03:09:10Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002402

May we get a yes or no from the sponsor?

03:09:14Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002403

Mukhang nagsend ng letter.

03:09:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002404

Nagsend ng letter. Okay. So, malinaw po, Madam Speaker.

03:09:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002405

So, ang kinatawang ito ay sumusuporta po sa request for institutional amendment ng Marawi Compensation Board

03:09:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002406

for an additional 4 billion, pero pangahawakan po natin ang kanilang deklarasyon dito na kaya nilang ma-award ang pondo,

03:09:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002407

ang dagdag na pondo to 3,600.

03:09:58Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002407-split-2

Tama, tama.

03:09:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002407-split-3

3,600 claimants.

03:10:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002408

So, yun po ang pinakamahalaga.

03:10:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002409

Ngayon, kanina meron pong mga youth from Marawi.

03:10:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002410

Nagpunta pa sila dito sa Maynila para nga makaharap ang Marawi Compensation Board.

03:10:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002411

At hinaharap naman tayo ni Chair Macarambon at ng kanyang mga staff.

03:10:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002412

Papasalamat po tayo doon.

03:10:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002413

Isa sa mga urgent request po nila ay yung director.

03:10:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002414

Ay yung direktang harapan, dialogue.

03:10:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002415

Dahil kailangan-kailangan ng opisyal at klarong informasyon tungkol sa ano na ba ang kalagayan

03:10:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002416

ng mga matagal nang iniintay na pag-award ng claims.

03:10:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002417

At gusto lang po natin mailagay on record na may commitment po

03:11:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002418

for a dialogue in Marawi led by the Marawi Compensation Board.

03:11:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002419

Ang tinarget po doon ay first week of October.

03:11:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002420

So, confirm po ba yung commitment na iyon?

03:11:20Source

Rep. Nicanor M. Briones

asr-002421

Yes, Your Honor. Confirm po yung commitment.

03:11:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002422

Thank you. Maraming salamat po. So, yun lang po.

03:11:27Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002423

Thank you very much, Honorable Tinio, Majority Leader.

03:11:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002424

Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, nagpapasalamat tayo.

03:11:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002425

Muli, sinusuportahan natin.

03:11:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002426

Yung request ng Marawi Compensation Board for additional 4 billion pesos

03:11:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002427

para magampanan nila ang kanilang mandato.

03:11:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002428

And we look forward to their commitment na haharapin yung mga mamamayan ng Marawi sa Marawi mismo

03:11:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002429

pagbalik nila doon sa Oktubre.

03:11:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002430

Hanggang doon na lamang po, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat.

03:12:00Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002431

May be the Honorable Tinio would also like to move for the termination of the meeting.

03:12:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002432

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:12:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002433

There being no other member of the minority who wishes to interpolate,

03:12:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002434

I move for the termination of the period of interpolation and debate

03:12:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-002435

on the budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

03:12:23Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002436

Majority Leader.

03:12:24Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-002437

Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate

03:12:30Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-002438

the period of interpolation of the proposal, Marawi Compensation Board.

03:12:33Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002439

There is a joint motion to terminate the period of interpellations

03:12:39Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002440

on the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

03:12:43Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002441

Is there any objection?

03:12:45Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002442

The Chair hears none.

03:12:47Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002443

The period of debate, sponsorship debate and interpellation

03:12:49Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002444

of the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board

03:12:53Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002445

is hereby terminated.

03:12:55Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002446

Majority Leader?

03:12:58Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002447

Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget

03:13:02Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002448

of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

03:13:07Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002449

And may we acknowledge the heads...

03:13:11Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002450

Well, there's a pending motion.

03:13:18Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002451

There is a motion to consider the proposed budget

03:13:22Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002452

of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

03:13:24Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002453

There being no objections, that motion is carried.

03:13:28Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002454

Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials

03:13:31Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002455

of the Bases

03:13:32Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002456

Conversion and Development Authority,

03:13:35Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002457

namely President and CEO Joshua Bingcang,

03:13:39Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002458

Director Glenn Albano,

03:13:41Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002459

Director Dante Liban,

03:13:43Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002460

Senior Vice President Hedda Rulona,

03:13:47Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002461

Senior Vice President Diana Joyce Basco-Galera,

03:13:52Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002462

Officer in Charge Mark Torres.

03:13:54Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002463

Thank you very much, Majority Leader.

03:13:57Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002464

May we request the Majority Leader to recognize the sponsor.

03:14:02Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002465

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

03:14:06Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002466

the Honorable Maria Angela S. Garcia,

03:14:11Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002467

Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations...

03:14:14Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002468

The Honorable Maria Angela Garcia is hereby recognized

03:14:16Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002469

to sponsor the proposed budget

03:14:18Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002470

of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

03:14:22Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002471

Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

03:14:24Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002472

On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations,

03:14:28Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002473

I have the privilege of sponsoring

03:14:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002475

the proposed...

03:14:32Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002476

Fiscal Year 2027 Budget

03:14:34Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002477

of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

03:14:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002478

Together with President Joshua Bingcang

03:14:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002479

and the BCDA family,

03:14:48Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002480

we are ready to respond to the questions

03:14:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002481

of our esteemed colleagues during the interpellation.

03:14:56Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002482

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:15:00Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-002483

Madam Speaker, may we recognize the Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula of the Akbayan Partylist for her interpellation.

03:15:10Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002484

The Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula is hereby recognized.

03:15:16Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002485

Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

03:15:20Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002486

Dediretso na po ako sa aking katanungan para po mabilis tayong matapos dahil 10.13 na rin po ng gabi.

03:15:30Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002487

Nakasaad sa gab na iisa lamang ang line item ng BCDA para sa susunod na taon.

03:15:37Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002488

Malinaw po sa proposed appropriation na ang buong 1.983 billion ay para sa implementation ng BCDA Infrastructure Development Program at kaugnay nito,

03:15:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002489

ano ang specific na performance target ng BCDA na dapat ma-achieve?

03:16:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002490

Sa ilalim ng program na ito.

03:16:03Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002491

Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

03:16:06Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002492

Ang targets po for 2027, ang isa pong target is the number of generated employment, 1,500.

03:16:15Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002493

The percentage of completed facilities constructed for the AFP, 100%, such as the Philippine Marine Headquarters, the Philippine Navy Senior Officers Quarters,

03:16:28Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002497

And the percentage of infrastructure projects implemented as planned, 100% din po.

03:16:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002498

Such as the connecting road to the virology of DOST, the National Academy of Sports Dormitory of DepEd,

03:16:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002499

the access road leading to the Central Bank, University of the Philippines, and Philippine High School.

03:16:50Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002500

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

03:16:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002501

As we all know, ang issue ng Paxilica ay nangangailangan ng kalinawan.

03:17:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002502

Iilang countries ang papasok dito sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park under sa Paxilica.

03:17:07Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002503

Ilan po?

03:17:09Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002504

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

03:17:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002505

Sa ngayon po, nothing is final yet.

03:17:14Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002506

Hindi naman po ito US exclusive initiative.

03:17:17Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002507

Dahil po as of June 2026, meron na pong 24 signatories.

03:17:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002508

Ang Paxilica Declaration.

03:17:26Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002509

Kasama ang Pilipinas, United States, Australia, Japan, Republic of Korea, Singapore, the Netherlands, United Kingdom, India, Germany, Israel, United Arab Emirates, and other partner economies pa po.

03:17:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002510

So, ina-expect po natin na iba-iba po yung mga bansa na pwedeng mag-locate sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park.

03:17:53Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002511

Ilan naman po kaya yung tech firm?

03:17:58Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002512

Tech firm.

03:17:59Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002513

Wala pa po tayong final reply dyan kasi po nothing is final po as of the moment.

03:18:06Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002514

Salamat po, Distinguished Sponsor.

03:18:09Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002515

Dadako po ako sa aking pangatlong katanungan.

03:18:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002516

Ano po kaya ang specific roles ng BCDA sa Paxilica at sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park?

03:18:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002517

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ang BCDA po ay isang IPA or Investments Promotions Agency.

03:18:30Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002518

So, yung role po niya ay limitado po sa pagiging isang commercial partner or lessor po ng CAMP or ng Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park.

03:18:43Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002519

Ilang staff po ba meron ang BCDA?

03:18:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002520

Ang BCDA po sa kabuan ay meron pong 257 na staff.

03:18:53Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002521

57?

03:18:55Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002522

257.

03:18:56Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002523

257. Salamat po.

03:18:58Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002524

Ilang staff naman po ang currently assigned sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park?

03:19:04Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002525

Sa ngayon po, Madam Speaker, wala pa pong dedicated staff para po sa ating Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park kasi wala pa naman pong concrete project and wala pang concrete roles.

03:19:17Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002526

Madam Sponsor, can the BCDA confirm that the agency?

03:19:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002527

Yes, Madam Speaker. Sa lahat naman po ng proyekto ng BCDA, nagbibigay po ng due proper notice ang BCDA po.

03:19:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002528

Bilang lead agency or government agency sa implementation ng Paxilica, paano isisiguro ng BCDA na compliant po tayo sa labor laws,

03:19:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002529

ang mga papasok na tech firms?

03:19:55Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002530

Madam Speaker, yung ating pong Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park ay ang masusunod po ay ang mga batas ng Pilipinas kasama po ang labor laws na i-implement po dito.

03:20:08Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002531

Ibig sabihin po, tayo po ang masusunod?

03:20:11Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002532

Yes po, Madam Speaker.

03:20:13Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002533

Gandang balita po yun kung tayo yung nasusunod at hindi po tayo minamandohan ng ibang bansa or ng foreign.

03:20:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002534

Saan sa Paxilica agreement nakasaad itong labor law compliance po?

03:20:29Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002535

Sa ngayon po, wala pa po tayong agreement. So, yung ating pong sinusunod sa lahat po ng proyekto ng BCDA ay ang ating pong Philippine labor laws.

03:20:41Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002536

So, ibig sabihin, wala pang provision or actual provision para dito. Pero yun yung plano.

03:20:48Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002537

Wala pa pong agreement, Madam Speaker.

03:20:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002538

Kung may kumpanyang non-compliant sa labor laws within the Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park, may kapangyarihan ba ang BCDA palayasin o pagbayarin sila?

03:21:05Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002539

Again, Madam Speaker, sinisigurado po ng BCDA na Philippine labor laws will apply. Pero sa ngayon po, wala pa pong existing agreement. But this is what we can assure you po.

03:21:17Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002540

Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor.

03:21:19Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002541

Sana po ito po.

03:21:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002542

Kaya, magawa po talaga natin. Kasi ilang foreign countries na rin po ang pumasok sa ating bansa. Kagaya na lamang nung nakaraan, nagkaroon po ng labor strike ang ating mga DHL workers na kung saan sinasabi nilang labor laws ng Pilipinas ang sinusunod.

03:21:46Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002543

However, nung nagkaroon na ng union sa loob ng DHL.

03:21:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002544

Eh, bigla na lamang silang in-end yung contract ng mga workers.

03:21:57Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002545

So, sana po, hindi lamang po ito pangako ng Paxilica, kundi talagang magkakaroon ng provision at talagang mapanagot po natin yung kumpanya na lalabag dito.

03:22:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002546

With that, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, ang susunod po na katanungan ko, follow up lamang po.

03:22:18Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002547

Saan sa Paxilica agreement naman?

03:22:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002548

Saan po, nakasaad na may kapangyarihan ang BCDA na i-penalize ang mga non-compliant companies, kung meron man po?

03:22:29Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002549

Again, Madam Speaker, wala pa pong agreement. Pero again, sinusigurado po ng BCDA na magiging compliant po tayo sa mga batas ng Pilipinas.

03:22:42Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002550

Sana po, kung ano yung napag-usapan natin dito, uulitin ko po, kung sinasabi ninyo ganyan,

03:22:50Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002551

maganda po yung balita. Pero hanggat wala pong agreement, wala pong provision, wala pong papel, nakakabahala pa rin po.

03:22:59Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002552

Susunod po na katanungan ko ay, paano naman po isisiguro ng BCDA na malayang makapag-unionize ang mga manggagawa sa loob ng mga development projects na ito?

03:23:13Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002553

Again, Madam Speaker, we will follow Philippine labor laws.

03:23:17Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002554

At ito naman po ay nakasaad sa provision po natin.

03:23:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002555

Kaugnay po nung nangyari sa DHL, sana hindi po mangyari yung nangyari sa DHL na Philippine labor law ang sinunod,

03:23:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002556

pero nung nagka-unionize, biglang umayaw na si DHL. So sana hindi po gano'n yung mangyayari dito.

03:23:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002557

Paano naman po isisiguro ng BCDA na ang mga manggagawang Pilipino,

03:23:46Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002558

ang majority na mahahire sa mga high quality jobs sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park?

03:23:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002559

Baka naman po kasi dahil foreign country yung papasok dito,

03:23:59Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002560

baka naman po dadalhin din nila yung kanilang mga manggagawa mula sa ibang bansa.

03:24:16Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002561

Ayon po sa ating BOI, ang nakasaad po ay minimum 90% po ang mga Pilipino na magtatrabaho.

03:24:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002562

As a-handing po natin yan na makikita natin sa provision or sa agreement po.

03:24:38Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002563

At hindi ko na itatanong kung saan parte po yun ng agreement ng Paxilica dahil kagaya ng nasagot nyo po kanina,

03:24:46Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002564

wala pa nga po. So sana nga, nandoon din po yan.

03:24:50Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002565

As you can see, dear colleague, in the past months, Paxilica is toted as the economic miracle of the country.

03:25:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002566

Pero wala pa palang malinaw na agreement.

03:25:04Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002567

It's extremely concerning na nag-hard launch na ang BCDA, nag-notify na sa LGU at sa mga residenteng maapektuhan.

03:25:14Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002568

Pero ang sagot, lagi ay wala pa palang malinaw na kongkretong agreement.

03:25:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002569

Nagpadala na rin kayo ng notices sa mga residente, pero wala pa rin po palang agreement, no?

03:25:28Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002570

Are we being taken for a ride with this agreement?

03:25:55Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002575

Madam Speaker, as we said, wala pa pong final na mga pag-uusap.

03:26:04Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002576

Meron pa lang pong mga diskusyon.

03:26:07Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002577

Meron pa lang pong initial discussions.

03:26:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002578

Kaya po, siguro kapag meron na pong feedback.

03:26:14Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002579

doon po natin maisasalaysay at mayuulat kung ano po yung magiging final agreements po natin.

03:26:25Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002580

Naintindihan ko po ito Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

03:26:30Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002581

Medyo nabahala lang ako doon sa nakapag-notify na wala pa palang agreement,

03:26:35Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002582

nasa usapan pa lang pala tayo kung ano-anong mga provisions ang gagawin natin.

03:26:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002583

Hindi po yata tama na inonotify na natin ang mga residente para sila ay makaalis na tapos wala pa palang agreement.

03:26:51Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002584

Ang 2027 budget ng BCDA, ang year zero bago magsimula ang construction.

03:26:59Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002585

Yet mukhang wala pa palang kapangyarihan ang lead agency para dito para masigurong

03:27:05Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002586

ang mga Pilipino talaga ang magbe-benefit at hindi mga dayuhan.

03:27:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002587

Dadako naman po ako sa usapin at concerns ng indigenous people at mga community na maa-apektuhan ng development ng Paxilica.

03:27:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002588

Madam Sponsor, para po sa inyong kaalaman at sa BCDA family, ako po ay isang indigenous people, isa po akong IP,

03:27:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002589

kaya mahalaga po sa akin yung karapatan ng aking mga constituent na mga IP, no?

03:27:37Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002590

So, can the BCDA confirm?

03:27:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002591

There are indigenous peoples and indigenous cultural communities that will be affected if the project pushes through.

03:27:53Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002592

Madam Speaker, siguro para magbigay po ng mas malawak na perspektibo,

03:28:01Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002593

yung pong Clark Freeport Special Economic Zone ay meron pong 35,300 hectares.

03:28:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002594

At ito pong camp na tinutukoy natin ay 1,620 hectares lamang.

03:28:20Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002595

Doon po sa kabuan ng 35,300, inalis na po doon, binukod na po yung ating pong mga ancestral domain.

03:28:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002596

Meron pong halos 15,000 na nakabukod na po na ginagalang ng BCDA.

03:28:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002597

Yung kanila pong...

03:28:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002598

Pero dito po sa ating campsite, wala pa po, even at the NCIP level, wala pong CAD-T or CALT na nare-recognize pa po.

03:28:54Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002599

Salamat po, no? Magandang balita kung sakaling ganun nga talaga.

03:28:58Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002600

Dahil ibig sabihin, pinapahalagahan po natin ang mga indigenous people.

03:29:03Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002601

Gayun pa man po, gusto ko lang i-follow up na naintindihan ko na sinegregate na po natin,

03:29:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002602

gagal na po natin yung mga may ancestral domain.

03:29:14Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002603

Ngayon, ang tanong ko po, may mga communities pa rin po ba na maapektuhan na sila ay mga indigenous people,

03:29:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002604

ngunit wala lang ancestral domain?

03:29:59Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002649

Madam Speaker, doon po sa New Clark City Special Economic Zone, Freeport and Special Economic Zone,

03:30:08Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002650

meron pong ilang both IP and non-IP na settlers po.

03:30:19Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002651

So, ibig sabihin may maaapektuhan ng mga IP community na walang ancestral domain.

03:30:28Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002652

Doon po sa area, nakasama sa 35,300 hectares.

03:30:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002653

Doon po sa camp area, doon sa 1,600 hectares po, meron po na ilang mga IP and non-IP families.

03:30:49Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002654

Ano po kaya ang magiging commitment ng BCDA na itong mga IP na to,

03:30:55Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002655

despite not having an ancestral domain,

03:30:58Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002656

ay maa-re-remain ang kanilang dignidad,

03:31:04Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002657

ma-re-respeto pa rin ang kanilang rights as an indigenous people.

03:31:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002658

Can the BCDA commit na meron pa rin po tayong i-implace or i-impose na batas para sa ating mga IP constituents

03:31:21Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002659

na even if wala po silang ancestral domain?

03:31:28Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002660

Madam Speaker, para po doon sa affected families, IP families po natin,

03:31:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002661

BCDA will coordinate with NCIP and the LGU para po matukoy ang kanila pong saloobin

03:31:52Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002662

at siyempre tignan po kung ano po yung pwedeng mabigay natin.

03:31:58Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002663

May tulong ng ating pong gobyerno sa kanila.

03:32:02Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002664

Hindi po natin sila, hindi isasama sa ating pong developmental and social plan.

03:32:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002665

Definitely po, hindi po natin hahayaan na wala po tayong ibibigay na alternatibong option para po sa kanila.

03:32:23Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002666

Maraming salamat, distinguished sponsor.

03:32:26Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002667

With that,

03:32:28Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002668

nire-respeto ko po ito,

03:32:30Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002669

pero bilang ang BCDA po,

03:32:33Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002670

ang lead government agency na magli-lead dito sa Paxilica project na ito,

03:32:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002671

sana po ay kayo po mismo yung bababa sa grounds at kakausap sa mga IP constituents or even non-IP constituents.

03:32:50Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002672

Huwag po sana nating hayaan na ang sulat lang, written document lang,

03:32:55Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002673

ang mag-i-inform sa kanila ng ano na pong,

03:32:58Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002674

kung nangyayari doon po sa area of responsibility din po ng proyektong ito.

03:33:05Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002675

So, inaasahan ko po, sana po ay makita po natin itong improvement at saka progress po dito sa pagkakausap po sa ating mga IP constituents.

03:33:17Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002676

With that, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor, for closing, in closing,

03:33:24Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002677

pasensya na po pero medyo hindi ko po kasi naiintindihan kung bakit,

03:33:28Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002678

minamadali din po natin yung Paxilica at ang mga planong Advanced Manufacturing Park

03:33:35Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002679

ng marami pang hindi nasasagot ng mga concerns.

03:33:40Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002680

Sana po, unahin po natin muna yung mga concerns bago po natin madaliin ang mga agreements na ito.

03:33:48Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002681

Malinaw naman sa ating mga Pinoy na kung hindi nakataga sa bato,

03:33:53Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002682

ang mga pangako ay posibleng napapakataon.

03:33:58Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002683

Napapako, no?

03:34:00Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002684

So, yun lamang po ang gusto naming makita.

03:34:02Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002685

Sana ito ay nakadokumento, may papeles, may agreement, may probisyon na magsesecure

03:34:10Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002686

na hindi po masisira ang ating kalikasan, ang ating bansa, at ang ating komunidad.

03:34:17Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002687

Baka mauwi lang sa pambubudol ang mga pangakong high quality jobs, mga pangakong world class technology,

03:34:26Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002688

transfer kung wala naman pala tayo.

03:34:28Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002689

Kaya yung nakikita pa sa agreement.

03:34:31Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002690

But anyway, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, maraming salamat po.

03:34:35Source

Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula

asr-002691

Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

03:34:36Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002692

Majority Leader.

03:34:37Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-002693

...

03:34:37Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-002694

Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Ko for her interpellation.

03:34:42Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002695

The Honorable Ko is hereby recognized. Please proceed.

03:34:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002696

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

03:34:49Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002697

Magandang gabi sa ating Distinguished Sponsor ngayong gabi.

03:34:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002698

Maari po bang sumagot ng ilang tanong tungkol sa...

03:34:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002699

sa budget at mga pulisiya na gusto pong ipatupad ng BCDA?

03:35:05Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002700

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:35:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002701

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

03:35:09Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002702

Ang una po nating tanong ay ang announcement din,

03:35:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002703

hindi lang ng BCDA pero iba-iba rin pong ahensya ng gobyerno

03:35:19Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002704

ng April 16, 2026, pumirma ang Pilipinas sa Pax Silica Declaration.

03:35:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002705

Can I get a confirmation if that's true, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor?

03:35:32Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002706

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:35:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002707

Pumirma po ang Pilipinas sa isang non-binding statement of shared principles.

03:35:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002708

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:35:45Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002709

Sa website ng Board of Investments na nakuha natin ang access dito dahil dinirect po tayo

03:35:53Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002710

ng Board of Investments mismo sa DTI.

03:35:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002711

budget briefing. Meron po ditong sulat, liham galing sa BCDA

03:36:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002712

na ?Proposal for a Pax Silica Coordination Office in Clark,? dated April 9, 2026. May I get a confirmation kung ito po ay pinadala ng BCDA?

03:36:21Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002713

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:36:23Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002714

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, meron po tayong mga katanungan

03:36:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002715

tungkol po sa liham na ito

03:36:29Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002724

At ang mga nagsunod-sunod ng developments na nag-arise from the signing of this statement and subsequent plans, proposals, declarations ng iba't-ibang ahensya ng gobyerno.

03:36:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002725

Ayon po dito sa April 9, 2026 letter ng BCDA, binubukas niya po ang 4,000 hectares acres strategically located in the Luzon Economic Corridor under a lease-free agreement may grace period of two years bilang offer of in-kind contribution towards developing and advancing the bilateral economic security partnership between the governments of the Philippines

03:37:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002726

and the United States of America. May scope and objectives, meron pong paglatag ng terms at ng legal basis. Ang tanong ko po, if the offer of land proceeded or was simultaneous with the country's formal partnership, ano pong otoridad o propriety na meron ng BCDA to commit up to 4,000 acres of sovereign state land to a foreign coalition,

03:37:45Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002727

the Philippines had not yet formally joined. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, maaari po ba tayong ma-enlighten dito?

03:37:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002728

Madam Speaker, katulad po ng nabanggit ng ating distinguished colleague, ito po ay isang proposal na pinadala po ng BCDA. Hindi po ito na iba sa mga proposal na pinapadala ng BCDA bilang isang IPA or Investment Promotions Agency. Ito po kasi talaga yung mandato nila.

03:38:15Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002729

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano pong basihan kung bakit nagbukas ng proposal ang BCDA ng April 9, 2026 via letter sa Estados Unidos?

03:38:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002730

Ang basihan po ng proposal na pinadala ng BCDA.

03:38:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002731

ay yung mismong Republic Act na nag-create sa BCDA plus po yung isa pa po nating batas na Investor's Lease Act.

03:38:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002732

Mayroon po bang mga relevant agencies o kaya po ang presidente na nag-authorize ng offer na ito in advance?

03:39:05Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002733

Was anyone outside the BCDA involved in crafting this offer and authorizing this offer?

03:39:15Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002734

Ito pong proposal ay bunga ng ating pong pagsapi sa deklarasyon at dahil ito po ay pinadala sa ibang bansa, ito po ay nireview ng iba't ibang mga national agencies cleared para ipadala ng BCDA.

03:39:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002735

Madam Speaker, to clarify, ano pong deklarasyon na ito?

03:39:45Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002736

Na na-mention ninyo?

03:39:47Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002737

Yung Paxilica Declaration po.

03:39:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002738

Pero ang tanong Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, prior to the sending of this letter ng April 9, ang presidente po ba o kahit anong relevant na ahensya ng gobyerno nag-authorize in advance of this offer?

03:40:03Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002739

So prior to April 9, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

03:40:06Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002740

Yes, Madam Speaker, kinlear po ito ng DOJ at in-endorse po ng DTI, ng DFA.

03:40:15Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002741

So may clearance, endorsement ng DOJ and DFA prior to April 9, prior to sending the proposal?

03:40:25Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002742

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:40:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002743

Kailan po ito ginawa ng DOJ and DFA? Kailan po na-receive ng BCDA itong clearances and endorsements?

03:40:38Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002744

Ito po ay...

03:40:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002745

The day before April 9, Madam Speaker.

03:41:01Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002746

Bakit po, curiosity, ang DOJ kailangang i-clear at i-endorse itong offer na ito?

03:41:15Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002766

To ensure po na ito po ay compliant sa ating pong BCDA Act at sa Investors Lease Act.

03:41:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002767

And Philippine laws po, Madam Speaker.

03:41:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002768

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is the DepDev ever consulted about the offer prior to the BCDA making it?

03:41:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002769

Hindi po, Madam Speaker, kasi ito po ay isang preliminary proposal pa lang po.

03:41:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002770

Other than the DOJ and DFA, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, sino pa po ba involved dito sa pagbuo ng terms, ng scope ng proposal na ito?

03:42:11Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002812

Aside from DOJ, DFA, BCDA po, and BOI.

03:42:17Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002813

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kung maari din po natin makuha yun in a report na paglalatag ng sino pong mga ahensya, sino pong mga heads of agencies ang involved sa pagbuo ng proposal because I assume this high level of proposal, kahit sabihin mang preliminary,

03:42:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002814

marami pong recurso ang pinag-uusapan, ang tinataya, at hindi naman po basta-basta lang na mga ahensya na hindi na konsulta sa appropriate other government bodies na magagawa ito.

03:42:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002815

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:42:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002816

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:42:59Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002817

Kung maari din po ang mga dates at inputs at mga endorsements na ginawa na relevant ng mga DOJ, ng mga ahensya.

03:43:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002818

Yes, Madam Speaker, we will comply.

03:43:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002818-split-2

So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ang sunod nating tanong: ang Department of Agriculture o ang Department of Agrarian Reform ba nakonsulta ng BCDA bago po binuksan sa isang offer ang lupain na in-identify for Pax Silica, given that the site displaces active farmland in Tarlac?

03:43:38Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002819

Madam Speaker, ito pong pinag-uusapan po natin, public land under Clark Freeport and special economic zone, ito po ay naka-master plan na bilang isang economic zone po for industrial development.

03:43:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002820

So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is the sponsor denying agricultural displacement?

03:44:08Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002821

Madam Speaker, hindi po classified as agricultural land itong pinag-uusapan po nating subject area.

03:44:17Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002822

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may sinasayit na essentially legal tag sa lupain na ito.

03:44:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002823

Ang reality, however, ay around May this year, residents of Barangay Santa Lucia, Capas, says that PCDA sent a one-month eviction notice.

03:44:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002824

Without prior consultation.

03:44:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002825

And several farmers also claimed PCDA had offered to purchase their land for only 30 pesos per square meter.

03:44:47Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002826

And in August, around 92 farmers in Barangay O'Donnell, Capas, Tarlac have reportedly been urged by the PCDA to vacate the farmland they have been cultivating.

03:45:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002827

Residents of Sitio Sapangkawayan, Barangay Aranguren, said the project could displace families from ancestral land where generations have lived and farmed while also putting their burial grounds, livelihood, and community institutions at risk.

03:45:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002828

May mga senators po calling for a Senate probe amid complaints that farmers are allegedly being ordered to stop planting and are facing intimidation, arguing any land use conversion must follow due process under DAR rules.

03:45:31Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002829

Marami po tayong data, gaya na rin po sa preliminary, and preliminary pa lang po ito, na studies ng mga ibang ahensya.

03:45:39Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002830

The DA noted that 15,200 farmers might lose their agricultural land.

03:45:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002831

And a civil society organization, Calicasan, said the project could result in the long-term displacement of around 20,000 AITA residents.

03:45:53Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002832

May sinasabi po na hindi po ito tagged as agricultural land.

03:45:59Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002833

But is the BCDA aware of this when it made the proposal na may 20,000 AITA residents na nariyan?

03:46:07Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002834

Meron pong 15,200 farmers na maaari pong mawala ang kanilang lupain.

03:46:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002835

At ngayon po.

03:46:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002836

Ito po yung paraan kung paano niya pinapatigil ito.

03:46:19Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002837

Reports of harassment, intimidation, para makuha, maklear yung lupain.

03:46:26Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002838

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:46:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002839

Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

03:46:30Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002840

Siguro parang meron pong discrepancy sa mga bilang na, malalaking mga bilang na naisalaysay po ninyo.

03:46:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002841

We would like to request for a copy of this para ma-review po ng BCDA.

03:46:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002842

Pero sa ngayon po, wala pong 20,000 farmers displaced and wala rin pong 20,000 AITAS displaced.

03:46:58Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002843

In fact, again, ito pong pinag-uusapan po nating lupa ay special economic zone, hindi po siya agricultural.

03:47:07Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002844

And yung kabuan po ng 35,300 hectares, nakabukod po.

03:47:14Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002845

Ito po yung mga lupain na under ng DAR area.

03:47:20Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002846

Ito po ay merong kabuang 10,700 hectares under DAR farmlands.

03:47:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002847

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:47:29Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002848

To clarify, ang binigay ng mga numero ng kinatawan na ito ay mga estimates kung tuloy-tuloy na mangyari yung mga displacement na ongoing na po ngayon.

03:47:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002849

So ito po ay mga public pronouncements from civil society.

03:47:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002850

Ito po ay mga public pronouncements from civil society organizations na maaari din pong i-furnish ng representasyon na ito ng kopya.

03:47:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002851

But nonetheless, ang tanong po natin ay despite yung pagsabi na meron pong ganitong pagtag na this is land under special economic zone.

03:48:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002852

Ang reality po, may AITA po doon.

03:48:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002853

Nagpunta po tayo, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:48:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002854

Meron pong nagkiklaim that for the longest time, naroon sila sa lupa.

03:48:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002855

Ngayon, burial ground din po nila.

03:48:17Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002856

They have been farming for generations in the land that was provided.

03:48:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002857

So Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:48:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002858

Ang tanong ko, may FPIC po bang obtained from or even sought from the AITA community in Sitio, Sapang, Kawayan before the offer was extended to a foreign government?

03:48:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002859

Nagkaroon po ba ng opportunity ang BCDA para i-check na okay, kahit ito nakalagay as special economic zone land to na may mga magsasaka po doon?

03:48:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002860

At kinausap, kinonsulta, kinuha yung FPIC bago po ginawa yung offer na ito.

03:48:50Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002861

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, ito pong pinag-uusapan po nating area para po sa camp.

03:48:58Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002862

Wala pong ancestral domain dito.

03:49:01Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002863

Wala pong CADT or CALT po dito.

03:49:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002864

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:49:05Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002865

Under the Indigenous People's Rights Act, FPIC is supposed to precede decisions affecting ancestral domain, not follow a commitment.

03:49:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002866

Already made internationally.

03:49:17Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002867

So I'd like to confirm, i-confirm yung sequence.

03:49:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002868

The land was offered to the U.S. for the Paxilica project bago po magkaroon ng any consultation,

03:49:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002869

even though sinabi na as of now, wala pong CADT.

03:49:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002870

Wala pong FPIC kasi po wala pong CADT.

03:49:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002871

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:49:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002872

Ang sunod po nating tanong.

03:49:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002873

And I'd like to...

03:49:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002874

Loop back and circle back to that data, no?

03:49:47Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002875

Given that BCDA has acknowledged on the record at the August 14th Senate hearing that consultations have not been completed

03:49:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002876

and investors have yet to submit a development plan,

03:49:59Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002877

does BCDA consider it appropriate governance practice to make an international commitment first

03:50:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002878

and complete domestic due diligence, agricultural impact, environmental assessment, indigenous consent,

03:50:11Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002879

local government coordination pagkatapos?

03:50:14Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002880

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, again, ito pong subject area na pinag-uusapan po natin ay special freeport, freeport and special economic zone.

03:50:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002881

Yung ating pong proposal ay preliminary lamang po.

03:50:37Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002882

Kaya po wala pong FPIC na ginanap.

03:50:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002883

Kasi po hindi po...

03:50:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002884

Wala pong ancestral domain dito po sa subject area.

03:50:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002885

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:50:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002886

Paano po hinaharap ng BCDA yung issue na lumalabas ngayon ang mga iilang magsasaka

03:50:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002887

that they're claiming na may ancestral lands and domain po sila?

03:51:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002888

Sabihin po natin na as of now, there is no certificate.

03:51:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002889

Pero may grupo pong lumalabas, sinasabi ang doon sila.

03:51:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002890

Meron silang pruweba that they've been occupying that for the longest time.

03:51:17Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002891

Hindi po ba dapat i-halt natin ang lahat at kausapin sila, i-finalize, i-clear po itong lahat bago tayo mag-proceed?

03:51:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002892

Because unfortunately, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ang nakita natin na developments posted by the U.S. Embassy in the Philippines

03:51:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002893

and covered by...

03:51:37Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002894

and even posted by the United States Secretary of State.

03:51:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002895

Jacob Helberg ay may Pax Silica marker nang ina-unveil.

03:51:47Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002896

Hindi po ba ito, hindi ba advanced masyado ang thinking dito?

03:51:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002897

Lalo na't may naghahabol na nandyan po ang lupain namin.

03:51:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002898

At syempre, madidisplace kami, mawawalan po kami ng lupa kung tutuloy-tuloy ito.

03:52:13Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002899

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, again, itong subject area ay Freeport and Special Economic Zone.

03:52:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002900

Kaya po, mandato po ng BCDA.

03:52:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002901

Na as an investments promotions agency, na magamit ito for productive use para po sa matugunan yung kanilang mandato.

03:52:53Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002902

Madam Speaker, with all due respect to our colleague and of course, sa pagkilala pa rin naman ng batas at mandato ng iba't ibang ahensya,

03:53:03Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002903

maaari po nating...

03:53:05Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002904

This representation can think of various answers to that question such as,

03:53:11Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002905

pwede po nating itigil?

03:53:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002906

I-pause muna ang pagproseso ng proyekto until ma-resolve natin yung mga issues regarding farmers that have conflicting claims about the land.

03:53:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002907

Despite the fact na may saklaw nga pong batas, despite the fact na may identified lands, na sinasabi ito po, Special Economic Zone ito.

03:53:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002908

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, meron pong mga claims ang mga farmers.

03:53:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002909

May claims ang ITAS.

03:53:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002910

ITAS po ang mga farmers.

03:53:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002911

Yung pinakaunang mga tribo na nakalapag sa Pilipinas, sa kasaysayan natin, they predate the concept of the Philippine State.

03:53:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002912

And most likely, they can make claims as long as meron silang evidence which even might predate yung concept ng mga batas natin dito ngayon.

03:54:07Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002913

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, hindi po ba natin dapat ikonsidera yung kanilang mga...

03:54:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002914

nilalapag ng mga threat, banta sa kanilang buhay, sa kanilang kabuhayan, bago po mag-proceed further sa ganitong proyekto?

03:54:25Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002915

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala pong threat sa kanilang mga buhay.

03:54:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002916

Alam po ng ating mga farmers na itong lupa na ito ay nakatitulo sa BCDA.

03:54:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002917

Ito po ay Freeport and Special Economic Zone.

03:54:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002918

Claro po ito sa kanila sa mga dialogues and sa mga groundwork na ginagawa po ng BCDA.

03:54:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002919

Madam Speaker, I find it hard to believe na tatanggapin na lang po ng mga ITA tribes, ng mga grupo ng mga magsasaka,

03:55:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002920

na may pumunta pong biglang mga government officials and employees in suits at sasabihin nila,

03:55:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002921

actually po, yung lupang tinitilikan ninyo.

03:55:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002922

Pagmamayari po yan ng pamahalaan, kailangan na pong i-clear dahil po may proyekto pong pupunta dyan.

03:55:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002923

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, let just the record show that this representation repeatedly asked,

03:55:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002924

kung ano pong response ng BCDA sa mga paulit-ulit na concerns ng mga magsasaka, ng mga tribo na sinasabi,

03:55:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002925

dito po kami nakatira, dito po ang aming kabuhayan, and the response that I've been getting is,

03:55:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002926

but the law provides that this particular land is part and tag under the applicable laws like the Special Economic Zone.

03:55:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002927

Madam Speaker, as I have my time is limited, I would move on to the next line of questioning,

03:56:01Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002928

at tungkol naman po ito sa mismong batas na nire-refer, which is RA 7916, or the Special Economic Zone Act,

03:56:09Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002929

na pinasa in 1995 with the express...

03:56:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002930

statutory purpose of promoting technology-intensive industries that will modernize the country's industrial sector

03:56:20Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002931

and enabling technology transfer and managerial know-how to transfer them to domestic firms.

03:56:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002932

Three decades later, gusto po natin makita from BCDA to cite specific, measurable instances of technology transfer

03:56:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002933

and modernization of industrial sector directly due to PESA-registered firms,

03:56:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002934

or Philippine-owned manufacturing capacity, not just employment figures but, Madam Speaker, to note,

03:56:49Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002935

IP transfer, domestic supplier upgrading, or Filipino-owned firms that graduated into higher value-added production because of eco-zone spillovers.

03:57:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002936

Is that data available right now, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

03:57:05Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002937

Right now, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala pa yung data sa amin, but we will, if you will allow, we will submit that.

03:57:14Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002939

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, aantayin po natin yung report na iyon dahil po kung ang sinasabi na rason kung bakit po dapat magkaroon ng Pax Silica ay ang basehan ay ang Special Economic Zone Act, it has been in place actually three decades now. So we would like to see ano po ba yung naging progress from when it was passed up to now kung paano po

03:57:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002940

So, inactualize yung batas. Paano po nagkaroon ng technology-intensive industries dahil po nagkaroon ng modernization of industrial sector

03:57:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002941

na supposedly BCDA is at the lead if not one of the agencies ought to implement this.

03:58:01Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002942

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, iintayin po natin yung report na iyon.

03:58:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002943

Yes, Madam Speaker.

03:58:07Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002944

Ang final question na lang po, Madam Speaker, may napansin tayo that in that proportion,

03:58:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002945

the proposal letter to the U.S. State Department, it does explicitly state that RA 7916 is the governing law for personnel arrangements at the site.

03:58:23Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002946

Pero po, noong July, BCDA's president told the press that the project would instead be covered by the BCDA law and create more.

03:58:33Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002947

So, we'd like to clarify, which fiscal and legal framework ultimately governs the Paxilica Coordination Office?

03:58:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002948

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:58:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002949

Ang legal basis po ay yung BCDA law at yung create more, which is an update of the 7916 RA.

03:59:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002950

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

03:59:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002951

Iintay natin yung iba't-ibang...

03:59:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002952

Iintay natin yung mga reports na ni-request ng kinatawa na ito.

03:59:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002953

But as a final manifestation, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

03:59:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002954

ang mga napansin natin, mga iba't-ibang arrangements na in-undertake under the Special Economic Zone Act,

03:59:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002955

we surmise it won't be as different sa gagawin sa Paxilica.

03:59:34Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002956

And given three decades of implementation under these models, we'd like to see from BCDA concrete evidence,

03:59:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002957

not just projections, that these incentives have generated domestic supply chains,

03:59:53Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002958

import substitution industrialization, or measurable technology transfer into Filipino-owned...

04:00:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002959

in any existing eco-zone.

04:00:03Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002960

Dahil po kung hindi natin makita ang ebidensya na ito, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

04:00:07Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002961

we would be hard-pressed to see ano pong basihan sa expectation that the same tools

04:00:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002962

which will be used in Paxilica will produce national industrialization this time.

04:00:19Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002963

This time will be different.

04:00:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002964

Rather than another high-value enclave that imports capital equipment,

04:00:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002965

employs a comparatively small-skilled workforce, limited din pa dito ang mga Pinoy,

04:00:33Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002966

and will export finished output with limited multiplier effect on the broader economy.

04:00:39Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002967

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, I no longer have any further questions.

04:00:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002968

We would be eager to see the results of the information that we requested.

04:00:49Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-002969

Thank you, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

04:00:52Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002970

Thank you very much.

04:00:53Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-002972

Madam Speaker, I move to recognize,

04:00:55Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-002973

Honorable Elago for her interpellation.

04:00:58Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-002974

The Honorable Ilago is hereby recognized.

04:01:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002975

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

04:01:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002976

Nabanggit ho ito ng ating distinguished sponsor kanina.

04:01:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002977

Sa ilalim ng Presidential Proclamation 163 noong 1993,

04:01:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002978

may 10,724 hectares na excluded sa Clark Special Economic Zone

04:01:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002979

at dapat itong i-turn over sa Department of Agrarian Reform

04:01:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002980

na ilalim.

04:01:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002981

Nalipat na ba ito ng BCDA?

04:01:28Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002982

Nailipat na po ba sa DAR?

04:01:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002983

Kailan ito nalipat?

04:01:32Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002984

May deed of transfer na po ba?

04:01:36Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002986

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

04:01:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002987

by means of the proclamation,

04:01:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002988

itong area po ito ay excluded na sa Clark Freeport and Special Economic Zone.

04:01:54Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002989

Ang katanungan,

04:01:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-002990

Madam Speaker, ay kung nailipat na nga sa DAR at mayroong deed of transfer.

04:02:02Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002991

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala po siya sa jurisdiksyon ng BCDA.

04:02:13Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-002992

Maybe we can inquire and check with DAR if ano yung status ng tenorial document for these areas.

04:02:28Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003000

Itatanong natin ito, Madam Speaker, sa harap ng DAR.

04:02:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003001

Ngunit marami din sa DAR actually nagtatanong

04:02:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003002

tungkol dito sa deed of transfer na ito

04:02:36Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003003

para humalinaw

04:02:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003004

dahil hindi po biro

04:02:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003005

yung nasa 10,724 hectares

04:02:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003006

na dapat sana

04:02:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003007

inagagamat natin

04:02:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003008

para sa lokal na agrikultura

04:02:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003009

lalong-lalo na sa panahon ngayon

04:02:48Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003010

na tumataas na

04:02:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003011

ang ating food import dependence

04:02:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003012

lalong-lalo na sa bigas,

04:02:54Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003013

sa mais,

04:02:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003014

dun sa mga

04:02:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003015

pangunahing pagkain ng ating

04:02:58Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003016

mga kababayan.

04:03:00Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003017

Kung meron pong ulat,

04:03:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003018

Madam Speaker,

04:03:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003019

ang BCDA,

04:03:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003020

tungkol dito, tungkol sa history,

04:03:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003021

kung may mga naging pag-uusap,

04:03:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003022

tungkol dito sa 10,724,

04:03:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003023

ay may ulat na lang sa representasyon

04:03:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003024

na ito at sa ating kapulungan.

04:03:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003025

Yes, Madam Speaker,

04:03:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003026

Distinguished Colleague.

04:03:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003027

Madam Speaker, sa deliberasyon

04:03:22Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003028

naman ng budget ng DENR,

04:03:24Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003029

na-confirma nila

04:03:26Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003030

na wala pang environmental impact assessment

04:03:28Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003031

na na-apply o na-process

04:03:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003032

para sa Paxilica. At wala pa rin

04:03:32Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003033

malinaw na project description

04:03:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003034

na na-isusumite sa

04:03:36Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003035

Environmental Management Bureau.

04:03:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003036

Sabi ng DENR, ang existing

04:03:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003037

ECC ay para sa

04:03:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003038

BCDA Master Development Plan.

04:03:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003039

Kung may ganitong plano

04:03:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003040

ang pamahalaan sa Paxilica,

04:03:48Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003041

bakit wala pa rin po bang

04:03:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003042

ina-apply na

04:03:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003043

environmental impact assessment?

04:03:53Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003044

Kung hindi pa nasusuri

04:03:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003045

ang environmental impact

04:03:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003046

ng proyekto, paano natin

04:03:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003047

masasabing ligtas ito

04:04:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003048

para sa lupa, tubig,

04:04:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003049

agrikultura, sa ating kalikasan

04:04:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003050

at sa mga communities

04:04:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003051

na nakapaligid sa nasabing area?

04:04:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003052

Madam Speaker, Distinguished

04:04:11Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003053

Colleague, tama po kayo

04:04:13Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003054

ang meron pong ECC

04:04:15Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003055

ang BCDA dun sa kanilang

04:04:17Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003056

Master Development Plan.

04:04:20Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003057

Pero dahil wala

04:04:21Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003058

pa pong

04:04:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003059

final agreements, wala

04:04:25Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003060

pa pong final projects,

04:04:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003061

wala pa po talagang pwedeng i-apply

04:04:29Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003062

sa DENR.

04:04:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003063

Madam Speaker, maghihingi na lang

04:04:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003064

tayo ng kopya ng

04:04:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003065

ECC ng BCDA

04:04:39Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003066

para sa kanilang Master Development Plan.

04:04:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003067

Maari po ba natin itong

04:04:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003068

makuha ngayong gabi?

04:04:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003069

Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker,

04:04:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003070

ang mga katutubong AITA at magsasaka

04:04:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003071

sa Kapas Tarlac, nagsagawa po siya

04:04:53Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003072

sila ng petisyon para ipahinto

04:04:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003073

itong mga

04:04:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003074

efforts ngayon na may kinalaman

04:04:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003075

sa Paxilica. Nakakuha na sila

04:05:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003076

so far ng 400,000

04:05:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003077

verified signatures.

04:05:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003078

Isang ayon naman sa Kapas Town

04:05:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003079

Government, na higit 30%

04:05:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003080

ng lupa ay produktibong

04:05:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003081

lupang agrikultural.

04:05:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003082

Ibig sabihin, meron talagang

04:05:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003083

mga magsasaka na apektado,

04:05:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003084

meron talagang may kabuhayan

04:05:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003085

sa pagsasaka na maapektuhan.

04:05:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003086

Nag-apply na po ba ang BCDA?

04:05:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003087

ng land conversion order para rito?

04:05:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003088

Madam Speaker,

04:05:28Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003089

distinguished colleague, again,

04:05:30Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003090

ito pong

04:05:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003091

subject area po natin para sa

04:05:33Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003092

Clark Advanced Manufacturing

04:05:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003093

Park, ay isa ay

04:05:37Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003094

titulado sa BCDA

04:05:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003095

as a special economic

04:05:41Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003096

zone. So, wala pong

04:05:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003097

conversion na kailangan

04:05:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003098

gawin. And

04:05:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003099

that's it, Madam Speaker.

04:05:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003100

Madam Speaker,

04:05:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003101

hindi-dismiss na lang po ba

04:05:54Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003102

natin itong sinabi po

04:05:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003103

ng puno ng lokal na

04:05:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003104

pamahalaan ng Kapas,

04:06:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003105

na mahigit 30%

04:06:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003106

ng lupa na yan ay

04:06:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003107

productive agricultural land.

04:06:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003108

Sa tingin ko, isa po itong

04:06:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003109

bagay na hindi natin basta-basta

04:06:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003110

isasantabi.

04:06:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003111

Dahil nga ho, sa panahon

04:06:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003112

na kinakailangan natin na

04:06:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003113

preserbahin, proteksyonan

04:06:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003114

ang ating prime

04:06:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003115

agricultural lands, ay

04:06:22Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003116

nararapat lamang na

04:06:24Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003117

hindi po natin basta-basta

04:06:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003118

baliwalain ang ganitong mga pahayag.

04:06:28Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003119

Madam Speaker, distinguished

04:06:30Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003120

colleague, baka po

04:06:32Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003121

merong discrepancy

04:06:34Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003122

dun sa sinasabi po ng ating

04:06:36Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003123

mga magsasaka sa tinuturing

04:06:38Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003124

po nilang lupa na mawawala

04:06:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003125

na kanila pong

04:06:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003126

sinasakahan. Siguro

04:06:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003127

i-check po ng BCDA yan

04:06:46Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003128

para makonfirm kasi po

04:06:48Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003129

ito pong subject area po natin

04:06:50Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003130

na 1,500

04:06:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003131

500, 1,600

04:06:53Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003132

hectares. Again, hindi po

04:06:55Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003133

ito, ito po ay

04:06:57Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003134

special economic zone

04:06:59Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003135

for industrial development.

04:07:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003136

Madam Speaker, ang statement

04:07:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003137

ay nanggaling sa local government

04:07:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003138

unit. Kaya ho,

04:07:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003139

maaaring magkaroon dito

04:07:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003140

ng agara na kalinawan

04:07:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003141

at matiyak po natin

04:07:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003142

na pape-preserba ang ating

04:07:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003143

agricultural lands. Ngayon

04:07:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003144

naman, sa section 5,

04:07:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003145

letter K sa ilalim ng

04:07:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003146

Republic Act No. 7227,

04:07:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003147

pwedeng mag-exercise ng

04:07:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003148

right of

04:07:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003149

eminent domain ang BCDA.

04:07:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003150

Meron na po bang

04:07:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003151

in-appropriate na lupa ang BCDA

04:07:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003152

bilang paghahanda

04:07:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003153

o may kinalaman dito

04:07:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003154

sa Paksilika?

04:07:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003155

Madam Speaker, dahil

04:07:41Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003156

pag-aari po ng

04:07:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003157

BCDA, itong

04:07:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003158

Clark Freeport

04:07:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003159

and Special Economic Zone,

04:07:49Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003160

hindi po kailangan mag-exappropriate

04:07:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003161

kasi sa kanila po yung lupa.

04:07:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003162

Ang sabi din po ng BCDA, Madam Speaker,

04:07:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003163

ay maaaring bigyan

04:07:58Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003164

ng lease na hanggang 99 years

04:08:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003165

ang mga foreign investors

04:08:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003166

ng Paksilika. Sinasabi

04:08:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003167

ng BCDA na hindi naman ibinibigay

04:08:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003168

ang ownership ng lupa

04:08:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003169

dahil mananatili itong pag-aari

04:08:11Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003170

ng Philippine Government.

04:08:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003171

Pero kapag ang isang pribadong

04:08:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003172

foreign investor ay may karapatang

04:08:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003173

gumamit at mag-develop ng lupa,

04:08:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003174

sa loob ng

04:08:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003175

99 years, hindi ba't

04:08:24Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003176

sila na ang may

04:08:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003177

control sa lupa sa panahon yun?

04:08:28Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003178

Parang naipaubayan

04:08:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003179

na po natin.

04:08:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003180

Naipaubayan na ng gobyerno

04:08:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003181

ng Pilipinas sa kamay ng dayuhan

04:08:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003182

itong 1,620 hectares

04:08:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003183

ng ating mga lupain.

04:08:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003184

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

04:08:41Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003185

itong long-term

04:08:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003186

lease na umaabot ng 99 years,

04:08:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003187

yung mga locator

04:08:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003188

o yung mga investor na papasok

04:08:49Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003189

po dito, will still be subject

04:08:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003190

to Philippine laws, kaya

04:08:53Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003191

po

04:08:53Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003192

hindi po

04:08:57Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003193

magiging

04:08:59Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003194

pag-aari at hindi po

04:09:00Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003195

mapapas sa kanila itong lupang ito.

04:09:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003196

Madam Speaker,

04:09:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003197

noong naipasa

04:09:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003198

ang batas na ito at tungkol

04:09:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003199

po sa 99-year

04:09:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003200

Foreign Investors

04:09:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003201

Lease Act,

04:09:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003202

ang boto ng Gabriela

04:09:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003203

Women's Party ay pagtutol.

04:09:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003204

Mag-know po tayo sa

04:09:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003205

batas na ito. Dahil

04:09:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003206

habang walang lupang masaka

04:09:24Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003207

ang mga magsasaka at inaagawan

04:09:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003208

ng lupa ang mga katutubo,

04:09:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003209

dayuhan pa ang makikinabang

04:09:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003210

sa ating mga lupain.

04:09:32Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003211

Nang higit pa po sa average lifespan

04:09:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003212

ng mga Pilipino. 99 years

04:09:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003213

yan, Madam Speaker.

04:09:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003214

Ang lifespan po ng mga Pilipino

04:09:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003215

sa average, 74 years

04:09:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003216

sa babae, 68 po

04:09:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003217

sa lalaki.

04:09:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003218

Ang dati pong batas na umiiral

04:09:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003219

sa Investors Lease Act,

04:09:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003220

ang maximum para sa

04:09:53Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003221

long-term leases ay

04:09:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003222

nasa 50 years lang na pwedeng

04:09:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003223

i-extend sa dagdag

04:09:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003224

na 25 years. Pero ngayon po,

04:10:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003225

sa isang

04:10:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003226

GONO agreement,

04:10:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003227

maaari na po yung maximum

04:10:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003228

na 99 years. Kaya po,

04:10:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003229

mariin po yan na tinututulan

04:10:11Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003230

ng ating representasyon

04:10:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003231

ng mga kababaihan. Ngayon naman,

04:10:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003232

Madam Speaker,

04:10:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003233

isang ayon din po sa BCDA,

04:10:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003234

ay mangangailangan ang proyekto

04:10:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003235

na ito sa kanilang tansya

04:10:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003236

ng 65 to 90 million liters

04:10:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003237

of water

04:10:26Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003238

kada araw. Kaya po sila

04:10:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003239

inagdidesenyo na ng sistema

04:10:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003240

kung saan magkakaroon

04:10:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003241

ng pagsusupply ng

04:10:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003242

o asigurado tayo

04:10:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003243

na may capacity na

04:10:39Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003244

135 million liters

04:10:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003245

na tubig kada araw na susuporta

04:10:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003246

dito. Sa pag-aaral din ng BCDA,

04:10:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003247

ang mga ilog

04:10:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003248

ng Bangot River o Donald

04:10:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003249

River at Abacan River

04:10:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003250

ay

04:10:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003251

maaaring maging source

04:10:54Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003252

o sa kanila pong pag-aaral

04:10:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003253

kung natapos na pong pag-aaral na ito.

04:11:00Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003254

Bangot River pa lang

04:11:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003255

ang tinitignan so far

04:11:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003256

at napag-aralan at

04:11:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003257

sinabi niyo po na sobra pa ang makukuha.

04:11:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003258

Hindi po ba meron

04:11:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003259

din mga manging isda sa Bangot River?

04:11:18Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003260

Madam,

04:11:19Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003261

Madam Speaker,

04:11:20Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003262

Distinguished Colleague,

04:11:22Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003263

wala po kaming informasyon

04:11:25Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003264

tungkol po dito.

04:11:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003265

Madam Speaker, madaling

04:11:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003266

search lang po sa

04:11:32Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003267

ating mga

04:11:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003268

sites

04:11:36Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003269

sa internet.

04:11:39Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003270

Nakita po namin na

04:11:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003271

noong 2023, meron pong

04:11:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003272

balita na mga personel

04:11:44Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003273

mula sa BIFAR

04:11:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003274

at sa Provincial Fisheries

04:11:48Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003275

Office.

04:11:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003276

Na nag-release ng

04:11:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003277

nasa 24,000

04:11:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003278

common carp and 46,000

04:11:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003279

tilapia fingerlings

04:11:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003280

sa Bangot River

04:11:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003281

na located po sa

04:12:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003282

Bamban, Tarlac

04:12:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003283

na magbe-benefit sa mga

04:12:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003284

indigenous fisher folk

04:12:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003285

sa area.

04:12:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003286

Kaya po malinaw na merong

04:12:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003287

kasaysayan kumbaga na yung

04:12:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003288

area po na yun, meron po tayong

04:12:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003289

mga indigenous

04:12:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003290

fisher folk na

04:12:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003291

nakadepende po ang kanilang

04:12:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003292

kabuhayan doon po sa ating

04:12:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003293

mga ilog sa naturang

04:12:24Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003294

lugar.

04:12:26Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003295

Yan po ang isa po sa

04:12:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003296

mga bagay na

04:12:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003297

isang click lang po yan makikita na.

04:12:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003298

Sigurado po ako pag

04:12:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003299

mas malalim pang pag-aaral

04:12:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003300

kung gagawin natin ang

04:12:39Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003301

mas diligent po

04:12:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003302

na inspection,

04:12:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003303

pagbisita doon sa mismong lugar.

04:12:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003304

Natitiyak po ako na

04:12:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003305

mas makakuha pa tayo.

04:12:48Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003306

Ang informasyon tungkol doon sa mga

04:12:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003307

kababayan nating katutubo

04:12:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003308

na nakadepende ang kanilang kabuhayan

04:12:54Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003309

sa mga nabanggit na mga ilog.

04:12:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003310

Nag-iisa pa lang yan, Madam

04:12:58Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003311

Speaker, wala pa po tayo

04:13:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003312

ditong nasabing information

04:13:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003313

tungkol sa dalawa pa na nabanggit

04:13:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003314

na mga ilog.

04:13:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003315

Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker,

04:13:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003316

pagdating naman sa power,

04:13:11Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003317

sa requirement po,

04:13:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003318

para sa power,

04:13:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003319

sabi ng BCDA na meron

04:13:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003320

ng initial investors.

04:13:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003321

Sa Solar Farms at may mga malalaking

04:13:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003322

foreign investments na.

04:13:22Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003323

Sino-sino po ba ang mga investors na ito?

04:13:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003324

Saan itatayo ang mga

04:13:26Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003325

Solar Farms?

04:13:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003326

Yung Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

04:13:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003327

yung Solar Farm po

04:13:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003328

ay sa loob po ng

04:13:46Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003329

Special Economic

04:13:48Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003330

Zone ilalagay.

04:13:59Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003331

At meron din pong

04:14:00Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003332

pinag-aaralang LNG power plant

04:14:02Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003333

sa loob din po ng

04:14:04Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003334

ating Special Economic Zone.

04:14:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003335

Ano pong timeline

04:14:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003336

nyo sa mga pag-aaral na yan?

04:14:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003337

Kailan po matatapos?

04:14:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003338

Kailan po tayo mabibigyan ng

04:14:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003339

informasyon na nakalapat

04:14:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003340

sa datos?

04:14:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003341

Sa siyensya?

04:14:20Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003342

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

04:14:22Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003343

yung ating pong Solar Farm

04:14:24Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003344

ay ongoing na.

04:14:26Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003345

Hopefully po within two years,

04:14:28Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003346

ito po ay makukompleto na po.

04:14:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003347

Two years.

04:14:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003348

Pero ngayon pa lang, Madam Speaker,

04:14:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003349

meron pong pag-aaral

04:14:36Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003350

na sa tarlak pa lang,

04:14:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003351

lubhanang lumiit

04:14:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003352

ang lupang agrikultural

04:14:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003353

dahil po sa expansion

04:14:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003354

ng Solar Power Farms

04:14:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003355

na may paglalagay.

04:14:48Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003356

Laki po na nasa 300%.

04:14:50Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003357

Madam Speaker,

04:14:52Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003358

ibang level po ito.

04:14:53Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003359

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

04:14:55Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003360

ito pong binabanggit po namin

04:14:58Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003361

ang ongoing na

04:15:00Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003363

solar farm, again, is

04:15:01Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003364

within the special

04:15:03Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003365

economic zone.

04:15:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003366

Ngayon, Madam Speaker, sabi

04:15:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003367

po sa atin ng DA,

04:15:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003368

dahil po sila ay nabahala na dito

04:15:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003369

ang 300% yung expansion,

04:15:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003370

samantalang paliit po ng paliit

04:15:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003371

yung mga natatamna natin

04:15:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003372

ng pagkain, lalo na po

04:15:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003373

ng palay, ay magkakaroon sila

04:15:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003374

ng geofencing program.

04:15:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003375

At makakatulungan nila dito yung DAR,

04:15:26Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003376

mga kasama din ng Department

04:15:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003377

of Energy. Pero sa lahat po

04:15:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003378

ng ito, ang

04:15:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003379

atin pong panawagan,

04:15:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003380

dahil sa dami din nung maaaring

04:15:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003381

maapekto ka ng mga magsasaka,

04:15:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003382

at yung mismong siguridad sa pagkain

04:15:39Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003383

sa bansa, dahil

04:15:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003384

ang Central Luzon po ay ang rice

04:15:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003385

granary ng Pilipinas. Dahil po

04:15:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003386

dito, may nabuong

04:15:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003387

network yung Save the

04:15:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003388

Rice Granary. At dito po

04:15:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003389

sa Save the Rice Granary,

04:15:53Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003390

sa Save Rice Granary campaign,

04:15:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003391

yung network na sumusuporta dito,

04:15:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003392

ang panawagan po talaga ay

04:15:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003393

hindi naman po tayo tutol sa renewable

04:16:00Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003394

energy development. Hindi po tayo tutol

04:16:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003395

sa ekspansyon ng mas maraming

04:16:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003396

sources ng renewable energy.

04:16:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003397

Hindi po tayo tutol dyan.

04:16:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003398

Ang tinututulan po natin ay

04:16:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003399

kapag nasasakripisyo

04:16:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003400

yung pagsasaka,

04:16:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003401

nasasakripisyo yung pangarap natin

04:16:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003402

para sa food self-sufficiency,

04:16:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003403

nasasakripisyo yung pangarap

04:16:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003404

natin para sa rice self-sufficiency.

04:16:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003405

At nauuna yung

04:16:24Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003406

interes ng

04:16:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003407

negosyo at dayuhan

04:16:28Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003408

sa mga napakahalagang lupain na ito.

04:16:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003409

Madam Speaker, Distinguished

04:16:32Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003410

Colleague, para po sa ating

04:16:34Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003411

kaalaman, dito po

04:16:36Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003412

sa loob ng ating Freeport

04:16:38Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003413

at Special Economic Zone,

04:16:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003414

meron din po tayong plano

04:16:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003415

sa pagpapatayo

04:16:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003416

ng mga

04:16:46Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003417

modern agriculture

04:16:48Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003418

farms

04:16:50Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003419

na kung saan ito rin po

04:16:52Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003420

ay isang sagot sa ating

04:16:54Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003421

pong

04:16:55Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003422

pangangailangan

04:16:56Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003423

para po sa ating pong pagkain.

04:17:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003424

Ngayon po Madam Speaker,

04:17:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003425

nagaling po dito kanina ang NCIP

04:17:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003426

at sinabi po nila

04:17:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003427

na wala pa nga pong FPIC

04:17:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003428

dahil meron din pong

04:17:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003429

mga concerns at tungkol sa pagkakaroon

04:17:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003430

ng certificate

04:17:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003431

mismo ng ancestral domain.

04:17:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003432

Pero sa akin pong

04:17:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003433

sariling karanasan

04:17:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003434

sa pagbisita sa Tarlac.

04:17:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003435

Ito lang pong nakaraang

04:17:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003436

linggo.

04:17:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003437

Nag-participate po tayo

04:17:28Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003438

sa caravan para po

04:17:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003439

malaman mismo

04:17:32Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003440

sa community yung

04:17:34Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003441

kanilang kalagayan.

04:17:36Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003442

Yung kwento po nila,

04:17:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003443

yung kanila pong mga families

04:17:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003444

ay bago pa may BCDA

04:17:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003445

nandun na po sila.

04:17:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003446

Bago pa pumasok

04:17:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003447

ang BCDA noong 1992,

04:17:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003448

meron na pong nakatira doon.

04:17:53Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003449

At nandun na yung mga katutubo

04:17:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003450

at yung mga katutubo.

04:17:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003451

At sila mismo yung tumutulong

04:17:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003452

para linangin ang

04:18:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003453

lupang agrikultura.

04:18:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003454

Hindi po ito madali

04:18:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003455

kasi

04:18:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003456

naririnig mo na sila po yung

04:18:11Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003457

nagsusumikap

04:18:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003458

na ma-maintain yung

04:18:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003459

ganda ng ating kalikasan

04:18:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003460

pero sila din yung first

04:18:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003461

na nabibiktima ng displacement.

04:18:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003462

At medyo

04:18:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003463

ano po ako kasi

04:18:26Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003464

nakita ko po yung kahirapan

04:18:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003465

para po ang hindi po fair

04:18:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003466

sa mga indigenous people

04:18:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003467

natin na ganoon po sila.

04:18:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003468

Dahil sobrang hirap

04:18:36Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003469

noong kanilang kalagayan.

04:18:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003470

Kaya po,

04:18:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003471

kaya yun na yung kanilang lupa

04:18:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003472

ay yung kusan sila nakatira

04:18:44Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003473

punasan yung kanilang mga

04:18:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003474

ancestral na

04:18:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003475

burial grounds

04:18:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003476

ay haharap pa sa

04:18:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003477

madali pong sabihin saan.

04:18:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003478

Dati na ilipat na lang

04:18:56Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003479

ganyan pero hindi po ganun kadali

04:18:58Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003480

kasi yun yung kanilang

04:18:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003481

akultura.

04:19:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003482

Yun po yung kanilang

04:19:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003483

gawi, di ba?

04:19:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003484

Na i-maintain yung kanilang

04:19:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003485

mga ancestral na

04:19:11Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003486

burial grounds na secret po

04:19:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003487

sa ating mga katutubo.

04:19:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003488

Kaya po,

04:19:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003489

hindi po ako magpapasensya kasi kahit po

04:19:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003490

mahirap po.

04:19:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003491

Yung sa tingin ko po napakahalaga.

04:19:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003492

Na malaman po ninyo na

04:19:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003493

yung mga katutubo po talaga

04:19:30Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003494

itumitindig.

04:19:32Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003495

Na sila po ay kasama natin

04:19:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003496

sa kunlaran.

04:19:36Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003497

Pero huwag naman po sana sila may isang tabi

04:19:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003498

sa lahat po

04:19:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003499

ng pangarap natin

04:19:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003500

para sa pagunlad ng ating bansa.

04:19:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003501

Dahil yung lupa po nila

04:19:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003502

kung sa atin parang simple lang yung

04:19:48Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003503

paglipat pero yung lupa

04:19:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003504

para sa katutubo ay

04:19:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003505

tahanan po nila

04:19:54Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003506

ang lupa.

04:19:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003507

Yung kabuhayan nila, pinagkukunan nila

04:19:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003508

ng pagkain.

04:19:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003509

Para sa mga katutubo,

04:20:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003510

sa kanilang pamayanan, para sa magsasaka

04:20:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003511

at bahagi na

04:20:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003512

ng kanilang kasaysayan

04:20:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003513

at buhay ng kanilang komunidad.

04:20:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003514

Kaya po,

04:20:11Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003515

nababahala. Hindi lang po sila

04:20:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003516

pero maski po ako sobrang affected

04:20:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003517

na

04:20:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003518

kumigit-kumulang

04:20:19Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003519

1,620 na ektarya

04:20:21Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003520

ng lupa sa Nuclar City ang ilalaan

04:20:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003521

para sa Paksilika.

04:20:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003522

Sa totoo lang po, hindi lang po ako.

04:20:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003523

Marami pong nagjoin doon sa caravan

04:20:29Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003524

last week.

04:20:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003525

Para po, malaman mismo

04:20:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003526

na hindi lang sa social media,

04:20:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003527

hindi lang sa internet.

04:20:36Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003528

Makita mismo, makausap mismo

04:20:38Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003529

yung ITA community

04:20:40Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003530

doon sa lugar.

04:20:42Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003531

At

04:20:44Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003532

nakita ko po talaga doon na gustong-gusto nila ng

04:20:46Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003533

pagunlad. Pero yung tunay na pagunlad

04:20:48Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003534

dapat kasama sila.

04:20:50Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003535

At nakabatay po sa

04:20:52Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003536

prinsipyo na hindi natin

04:20:54Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003537

isasakripisyo ang lupa

04:20:56Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003538

ng magsasaka,

04:20:58Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003539

ang lupa ng ancestral lands,

04:21:00Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003540

ang ancestral lands ng ating

04:21:02Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003541

mga katutupo

04:21:04Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003542

at ang kalikasan para lamang

04:21:06Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003543

makapagbigay ng espasyo sa malalaking

04:21:08Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003544

dayuhan na pumumunan.

04:21:10Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003545

Napakayaman po ng Pilipinas.

04:21:12Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003546

Sa tingin ko po kung

04:21:14Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003547

dodoblehin natin ang pondo ng

04:21:16Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003548

DOST, ng Department

04:21:18Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003549

of Science and Technology,

04:21:20Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003550

kayang-kaya po natin magamit ang

04:21:22Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003551

aghama at teknolosya.

04:21:23Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003552

na pinayaman

04:21:25Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003553

ng mga Pilipino mismo

04:21:27Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003554

para sa pambansang pagunlad.

04:21:31Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003555

Hindi po dapat maging

04:21:33Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003556

sangkot ang Pilipinas sa mga programang

04:21:35Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003557

nagsisilbi para lamang sa interes ng

04:21:37Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003558

dayuhang kapangyarihan tulad ng Pakasilika.

04:21:39Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003559

Habang nanganib ang lupa

04:21:41Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003560

at kabuhayan ng mga aita at magsasaka.

04:21:43Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003561

Ang siguridad natin sa

04:21:45Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003562

pagkain, ang kalikasan, at ang

04:21:47Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003563

pambansang soberanya.

04:21:49Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003564

Ang panawagan ko po ngayon ay

04:21:51Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003565

maipagtanggol ang lupa ng

04:21:53Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003566

mga aita at magsasaka.

04:21:55Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003567

Huwag po natin pabayaan

04:21:57Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003568

ang lupa ng katutubo at

04:21:59Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003569

lupa ng magsasaka.

04:22:01Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003570

Protectahan natin ang ating kalikasan at

04:22:03Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003571

siguridad sa pagkain.

04:22:05Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003572

Food self-sufficiency, pangarap natin yan

04:22:07Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003573

para sa bansang Pilipinas. Kaya po

04:22:09Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003574

ang panawagan po ng mga kababaihan,

04:22:11Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003575

buong tapang,

04:22:13Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003576

go to Pakasilika,

04:22:15Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003577

Philippines is not for sale.

04:22:17Source

Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago

asr-003578

Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

04:22:21Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003579

Majority Leader.

04:22:27Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003580

There is a motion to recognize

04:22:29Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003581

Honorable Tinio.

04:22:31Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-003582

Please proceed with your interpellation.

04:22:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003583

Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

04:22:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003584

Of course,

04:22:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003585

ilang mga katanungan sa

04:23:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003586

BCDA.

04:23:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003587

Of course,

04:23:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003588

may kinalaman nito sa Pakasilika.

04:23:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003589

Diba?

04:23:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003590

Well, una,

04:23:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003591

throughout the interpolation, narinig po

04:23:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003592

natin ang ginagamit na term

04:23:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003593

Clark,

04:23:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003594

Freeport, and

04:23:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003595

Special Economic Zone.

04:23:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003596

Ganon. So,

04:23:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003597

pwede po bang linawin lang natin

04:23:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003598

ano yung tinutukoy

04:23:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003599

nung term na yan?

04:23:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003600

No?

04:23:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003601

Yung,

04:23:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003602

as I understand it,

04:23:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003603

iba yung Freeport area dun sa

04:23:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003604

Special Economic Zone area. Tama po ba?

04:23:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003605

Paki-explain lang po.

04:24:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003606

Madam Speaker, tumatakbo yung oras ha.

04:24:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003607

Note lang po.

04:24:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003608

Madam Speaker.

04:24:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003609

Yes. Opo.

04:24:13Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003610

Dear colleague,

04:24:14Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003611

yung pong Clark Freeport

04:24:16Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003612

Zone, yun po yung

04:24:19Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003613

4,400 hectares.

04:24:21Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003614

Kung nasaan po yung

04:24:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003621

Kung nasaan po yung Clark International Airport.

04:24:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003622

Yes.

04:24:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003623

So, mainly nasa Pampanga po yan, di ba?

04:24:29Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003624

Opo. Yes.

04:24:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003625

Yes, Madam Speaker.

04:24:33Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003626

And yung pong Clark Advanced

04:24:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003627

Manufacturing Park,

04:24:37Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003628

ito po ay nasa loob ng

04:24:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003629

Special Economic Zone.

04:24:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003630

Okay.

04:24:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003630-split-2

Sa New Clark City.

04:24:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003631

New Clark City, which is in

04:24:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003632

Tarlac.

04:24:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003633

Yes, Madam Speaker.

04:24:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003633-split-2

Okay.

04:24:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003634

Ngayon, dito sa

04:24:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003635

PacSilica,

04:24:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003636

ano po ba yung ma-involve dito?

04:24:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003637

Yung po bang

04:24:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003638

Special Economic Zone area sa Tarlac?

04:24:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003639

O yung sa

04:25:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003640

Freeport, sa Pampanga, o pareho?

04:25:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003641

Para lang malinaw.

04:25:05Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003642

Yung

04:25:07Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003643

PacSilica po as a

04:25:09Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003644

non-binding declaration

04:25:11Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003645

na sumali po ang Pilipinas,

04:25:13Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003646

ito po yung

04:25:15Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003647

buong

04:25:17Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003648

global chain.

04:25:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003648-split-2

Yes.

04:25:19Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003648-split-3

So,

04:25:19Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003649

ibig sabihin, sa buong global chain,

04:25:21Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003650

meron po sa manufacturing

04:25:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003651

or sa ating industrial park,

04:25:25Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003652

at siyempre, meron din pong

04:25:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003653

kinalaman yung logistics

04:25:29Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003654

kasama po yung mga

04:25:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003655

daan at ito pong airport.

04:25:33Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003656

Ibig sabihin,

04:25:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003657

kasama po siya sa ecosystem

04:25:37Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003658

ng...

04:25:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003658-split-2

Okay.

04:25:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003659

At kaugnay nun,

04:25:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003660

meron yung

04:25:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003661

ano nga ito,

04:25:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003662

Luzon

04:25:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003663

Economic Corridor. Madam Speaker.

04:25:49Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003664

Tama po.

04:25:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003665

Okay. Pero yung specific

04:25:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003666

project

04:25:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003667

na

04:25:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003668

yung immediate

04:25:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003669

na project na

04:26:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003670

in-offer

04:26:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003671

ng PCDA

04:26:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003672

para sa PacSilica,

04:26:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003673

nasan po yun?

04:26:09Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003674

Sa New Clark City po.

04:26:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003674-split-2

Sa New Clark City.

04:26:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003675

So, potentially, pwedeng ma-involve din

04:26:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003676

yung airport,

04:26:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003677

pero yung kongkretong pinag-uusapan

04:26:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003678

ngayon, yung

04:26:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003679

in U.S.

04:26:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003680

statements, 4,000 acres daw

04:26:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003681

na lupa, pero

04:26:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003682

sa atin, ilan yun?

04:26:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003683

1,600.

04:26:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003684

1,600.

04:26:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003685

1,620 hectares.

04:26:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003686

620 hectares. Yun po yung nasa

04:26:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003687

New Clark City. Tama po. Okay.

04:26:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003688

So, magkalinawan po tayo roon.

04:26:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003689

Okay. Tapos,

04:26:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003690

ilang mga latest

04:26:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003691

developments batay po sa mga news

04:26:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003692

reports. Ipapakonfirm ko

04:26:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003693

lang po sa inyo.

04:26:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003694

Yung PCDA and

04:26:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003695

Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority

04:26:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003696

have formalized a partnership

04:26:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003697

to position the port of Subic Bay

04:26:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003698

as the preferred maritime

04:26:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003699

gateway for the PacSilica initiative.

04:27:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003700

Supporting its

04:27:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003701

logistics, cargo handling, import and

04:27:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003702

export operations, data

04:27:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003703

integration, and other critical

04:27:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003704

supply chain requirements.

04:27:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003705

Tama po ba yun?

04:27:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003706

Meron talaga kayong formal

04:27:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003707

partnership with

04:27:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003708

SBMA

04:27:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003709

designating port of

04:27:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003710

Subic Bay as preferred maritime

04:27:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003711

gateway for the PacSilica

04:27:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003712

initiative. Correct?

04:27:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003713

Yes, Madam Speaker.

04:27:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003714

Okay.

04:27:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003715

So, ano po ba yan?

04:27:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003716

Merong kasulatan? Paano yan? May

04:27:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003717

kontrata? Ano yung sabihin nun?

04:27:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003718

Or nagkasundo lang kayo?

04:27:41Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003719

Meron pong

04:27:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003720

MOU, Madam Speaker.

04:27:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003721

MOU? Okay.

04:27:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003722

Is that MOU

04:27:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003723

available to the public?

04:27:59Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003724

We can supply you

04:28:01Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003725

a copy of that.

04:28:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003725-split-2

Yes, please.

04:28:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003726

Sa atin po at para sa publiko rin.

04:28:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003727

Para transparent tayo sa lahat

04:28:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003728

ng mga may kinalaman

04:28:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003729

sa PacSilica. So, we would expect

04:28:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003730

a copy of that MOU.

04:28:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003731

And then, again,

04:28:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003732

according to reports, the BCDA

04:28:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003733

is set to sign the

04:28:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003734

governance framework for the PacSilica

04:28:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003735

industrial hub in Nucleic

04:28:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003736

City with a

04:28:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003737

counterpart United States government

04:28:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003738

agency. Tama po ba

04:28:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003739

yun?

04:28:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003740

Yes, Madam Speaker.

04:28:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003741

Malapit na po bang pirmahan? O napirmahan

04:28:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003742

na po ba yung

04:28:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003743

governance framework

04:28:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003744

for PacSilica?

04:28:41Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003745

Wala pa pong napipirmahan, Madam Speaker.

04:28:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003746

Pero tama yung report

04:28:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003747

na malapit ng

04:28:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003748

pirmahan?

04:28:49Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003749

Pinag-aaralan po, Madam Speaker.

04:28:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003750

Pinag-aaralan po. Okay.

04:28:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003751

So, hindi pa po tayo mabibigyan ng

04:28:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003752

kopya nito? O pwede na po?

04:28:57Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003753

Wala pa po, Madam Speaker.

04:28:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003754

Wala pa po. Okay. Pero

04:29:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003755

the moment it is signed, pwede na pong

04:29:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003756

mabigay? O maipakita

04:29:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003757

sa publiko?

04:29:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003758

Okay. We expect that. Ano?

04:29:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003759

Okay.

04:29:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003760

Ngayon, ang isa sa mga

04:29:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003761

publicly available documents

04:29:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003762

ay

04:29:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003763

noon pa, April.

04:29:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003764

Way back in April.

04:29:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003765

Yung sulat

04:29:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003766

ni President

04:29:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003767

and CEO,

04:29:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003768

si ginoong Joshua Bingkang,

04:29:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003769

sumulat siya

04:29:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003770

sa

04:29:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003771

sumulat siya

04:29:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003772

kay Undersecretary

04:29:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003773

of State for Economic Affairs of the United States.

04:29:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003774

Jacob Helberg.

04:29:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003775

Nung 9 April

04:29:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003776

2026,

04:29:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003777

Proposal for a Paxilica

04:29:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003778

Coordination Office in Clark.

04:29:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003779

Tama po?

04:29:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003780

Tama po, Madam Speaker.

04:29:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003781

Okay.

04:29:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003782

Tapos,

04:29:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003783

meron din pong sagot.

04:30:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003784

Si Jacob Helberg, the Undersecretary of the United States, Department of State, acknowledging and accepting the offer.

04:30:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003785

Tama po. Dated April 16 naman ito. Tama po.

04:30:26Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003786

Madam Speaker, tama po.

04:30:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003787

Tama po. Or we will return to these documents.

04:30:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003788

Pero meron po akong mga ilang visuals. I hope they're ready.

04:30:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003789

Una, nung inanunsyo yung Paxilica Initiative in the first quarter of this year, may announcement po yung State Department

04:30:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003790

and it is reproduced or published in the U.S. Embassy Manila website.

04:30:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003791

So yung isa po, kung makikita natin, available.

04:30:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003792

Available na po ba?

04:31:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003793

Available na po ba yung visual?

04:31:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003794

Andiyan na po? O wala.

04:31:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003795

Anyway, meron pong pinablish sa website ng U.S. Embassy in the Philippines,

04:31:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003796

the United States and the Philippines launch plans for 4,000-acre economic security zone to shore up supply chains.

04:31:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003797

First AI-native industrial acceleration hub under Paxilica.

04:31:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003798

So, this is published by the Office of the U.S. Department of State Spokesperson, April 16, 2026.

04:31:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003799

Wala pa po ba? Para makita lang.

04:31:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003800

Wala pa rin. Okay.

04:31:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003801

Anyway, ang striking po dito yung paggamit ng terminong economic security zone.

04:31:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003802

Okay.

04:31:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003803

And then, also, part of the media kit na nilabas during this period, April 16 din po, nilabas din ng State Department,

04:32:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003804

fact sheet, U.S. and Philippines plan the launch of historic 4,000-acre economic security zone to shore up supply chains.

04:32:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003805

At dito po, sabi, meron.

04:32:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003806

Meron ng economic security zone and structure and plan governance.

04:32:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003807

Dito po yung naging kontrobersyal na termino, joint governance.

04:32:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003808

Sabi po, dito sa economic security zone, merong joint governance.

04:32:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003809

The two governments intend to identify appropriate frameworks for the long-term development of the zone that facilitate sovereign alignment and shared upside as it scales.

04:32:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003810

No?

04:32:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003811

So, the use of the term joint governance.

04:33:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003812

In media reports, sabi, that joint governance included yung U.S. demand na merong diplomatic immunity yung mga personel nila sa zone.

04:33:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003813

Subsequently, parang may clarification or denial ang BCDA dito.

04:33:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003814

Pero, yan po ang nakapublish.

04:33:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003815

Yan po ang pinublish ng U.S. State Department.

04:33:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003816

So, do you confirm these statements made by the U.S. State Department?

04:33:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003817

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we cannot confirm what the U.S. State Department is saying.

04:33:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003818

You cannot confirm. Pero nilabas po nila.

04:33:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003819

No?

04:33:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003820

You cannot confirm.

04:33:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003821

But you have reacted.

04:33:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003822

You have reacted to it.

04:33:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003823

Ano po yung reaction nyo doon?

04:34:03Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003824

Yan lang sila.

04:34:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003825

In the meantime, Madam Chair, follow up po lang po yung visual aids natin para mas mapabilis po yung discussion.

04:34:18Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003826

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, doon po sa proposal na sulat na pinadala po ng BCDA,

04:34:25Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003827

very clear po.

04:34:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003828

So, na nilagay, sinayit po yung legal basis para sa sulat na ito.

04:34:35Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003829

At sinasabi po na, if I may read, Madam Speaker, the terms herein are made consistent with the laws of the Republic of the Philippines,

04:34:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003830

including RA number 7916, RA number 7277, and such other Philippine laws and rules that govern the use of public lands.

04:34:58Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003834

for purposes of international cooperation.

04:35:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003835

Okay.

04:35:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003836

Claro po.

04:35:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003837

I have the same letter.

04:35:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003838

And actually, yan nga po yung gusto natin ipakita para mapabilis yung discussion.

04:35:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003839

Let's now go to that letter then.

04:35:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003840

Ito po yung proposal for a PAC-Silica Coordination Office in Clark.

04:35:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003841

No?

04:35:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003842

So, sabi po rito, the BCDA of the Republic of the Philippines presents its proposal to the Department of State of the United States of America.

04:35:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003843

Ayun, finally, umabot na.

04:35:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003844

Okay.

04:35:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003845

Well, pwede lang ipakita yung Economic Security Zone kanina.

04:35:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003846

Yung binabanggit ko, yung mga statement ng U.S. Embassy.

04:35:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003847

Bagal.

04:35:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003848

Mabagal yung ano natin.

04:35:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003849

Okay.

04:35:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003850

The point I wanted to make there is, the State Department uses the term Economic Security Zone in their public releases.

04:36:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003851

No?

04:36:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003852

Ang tanong ko sa Pilipinas, sa gobyerno ng Pilipinas, particular sa BCDA, meron bang ganong animal sa batas ng Republika ng Pilipinas, Economic Security Zone?

04:36:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003853

Meron po ba?

04:36:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003854

Under our laws?

04:36:16Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003855

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, wala pong kaming alam na batas na meron pong Economic Security Zone.

04:36:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003856

Yes, wala naman talaga.

04:36:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003857

So, malinaw po.

04:36:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003858

Wala talagang, there's no such thing as an Economic Security Zone.

04:36:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003859

No such thing as joint governance.

04:36:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003860

There's no such thing as joint governance under our laws, implying na parang may, maaaring may dalawang batas na iiral.

04:36:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003861

Ayan po, yung, ang point lang ay sa official releases or statements to the public ng U.S. side, ganyan po ang kanila.

04:37:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003862

Na ang itatatag under Paxilica dito sa Pilipinas is something called an Economic Security Zone.

04:37:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003863

So, una pa lang, mukhang may problema na eh.

04:37:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003864

No?

04:37:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003865

Hindi na nagsasalubog doon.

04:37:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003866

Sabi nyo, magkakaroon ng pirmahan.

04:37:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003867

Eh, malinaw, may inam po, ilinaw natin.

04:37:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003868

Wala ang ganyang animal sa ating batas at hindi dapat pumayag ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas dyan.

04:37:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003869

Okay.

04:37:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003870

Pero ngayon, punta na tayo doon sa proposal for a Paxilica Coordination Office in Clark.

04:37:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003871

So, the BCDA presents its proposal.

04:37:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003872

Proposal to the Department of State of the United States of America on the establishment of a Paxilica Coordination Office

04:37:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003873

in an area of approximately 4,000 acres strategically located in the Luzon Economic Corridor.

04:38:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003874

So, ang offer nyo po, magtatayo ng Paxilica Coordination Office.

04:38:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003875

Tama po?

04:38:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003876

Tapos, sabi dito,

04:38:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003877

so,

04:38:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003878

ano ang gagawin?

04:38:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003879

Ano itong Paxilica Coordination Office?

04:38:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003880

It will serve as a principal bilateral facility to undertake the following functions.

04:38:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003881

One, coordination of critical mineral supply chain security initiatives between the two nations.

04:38:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003882

Facilitation of joint strategic industrial planning and infrastructure development

04:38:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003883

within the Luzon Economic Corridor.

04:38:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003884

Number four, coordination of allied investment and private capital mobilization for economic security projects.

04:38:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003885

Number four, support for workforce development, technology transfer, and capacity building activities

04:39:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003886

aligned with bilateral economic security objectives and five such other activities

04:39:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003887

as the two governments may mutually determine to be consistent with the purposes of the coordination office.

04:39:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003888

So, magtatayo po ng opisina.

04:39:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003889

Tama po?

04:39:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003890

At, ito may mga functions nga,

04:39:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003891

koordinative functions.

04:39:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003892

So, pwede po bang mag-elaborate lang dahil hindi natin makuha

04:39:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003893

based on a reading of the letter.

04:39:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003894

Sino po ang katao?

04:39:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003895

Dahil coordination, parang merong Philippine

04:39:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003896

na representative,

04:39:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003897

tapos may U.S.

04:39:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003898

Ganun po ba?

04:39:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003899

Tama po ba?

04:39:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003900

Yung coordination office, bilateral eh.

04:40:08Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003901

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

04:40:11Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003902

Noong pong earlier,

04:40:15Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003903

time po na binraft po ito,

04:40:18Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003904

yun lang po yung ginamit na terminology,

04:40:21Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003905

yung Paxilica Coordination Office.

04:40:24Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003906

But, in a fast forward today,

04:40:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003907

ito po yung Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park.

04:40:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003908

Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park.

04:40:33Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003909

Kaya po yung 4,000 acres or 1,600 hectares.

04:40:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003910

Yun na na po. Actually, yun ang pinupunto ko batay dito.

04:40:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003911

Kasi dito, sinasabi opisina.

04:40:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003912

Office, coordination office.

04:40:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003913

And yet,

04:40:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003914

parang halo-halo,

04:40:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003915

dahil yung Paxilica Coordination Office

04:40:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003916

in an area of approximately 4,000 acres.

04:40:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003917

Parang,

04:40:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003918

ano yung,

04:40:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003919

paano naman magkakaroon ng opisina na may 4,000 acres?

04:41:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003920

Tapos yung functions ng opisina,

04:41:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003921

parang ano lang,

04:41:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003922

isang coordinating body.

04:41:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003923

Diba?

04:41:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003924

Yet,

04:41:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003925

in the second part,

04:41:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003926

terms, identification of the site,

04:41:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003927

and other,

04:41:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003928

or lease terms,

04:41:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003929

the maps showing the proposed site within New Clark City in the Luzon Economic Corridor are attached.

04:41:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003930

Tapos, ito na po yung 4,000 acres.

04:41:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003931

So, mukhang sa konsepto pa lang ay pinaghalo na

04:41:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003932

yung coordination office at saka yung economic zone, kumbaga,

04:41:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003933

o yung tinatawag niyong Advanced Manufacturing Park.

04:41:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003934

Park.

04:41:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003935

Madam Speaker.

04:41:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003936

Okay.

04:41:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003937

So, yun po.

04:41:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003938

Una, question mark natin dito.

04:41:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003939

Ano ba talaga?

04:41:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003940

Office or park?

04:41:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003941

Okay.

04:41:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003942

So, ngayon sinasabi niyo park.

04:41:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003943

In other words,

04:41:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003944

there is a subsequent amended proposal.

04:41:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003945

Ganun po ba?

04:42:03Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003946

Again, Madam Speaker,

04:42:04Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003947

Distinguished Colleague,

04:42:05Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003948

ito po ay preliminary proposal.

04:42:08Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003949

So, ito po ay magiging,

04:42:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003950

magkakaroon ng discussion.

04:42:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003951

Okay.

04:42:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003952

And yet,

04:42:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003953

Mr. Helberg of the United States replied and said,

04:42:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003954

thank you for your letter dated April 9, 2026,

04:42:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003955

proposing an in-kind contribution of approximately 4,000 acres

04:42:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003956

in New Clark City within the Luzon Economic Corridor,

04:42:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003957

which could be used for a Paxilica coordination office.

04:42:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003958

So, tinanggap ng US.

04:42:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003959

Coordination office ang tinanggap niya.

04:42:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003960

Okay.

04:42:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003961

Okay.

04:42:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003962

So,

04:42:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003963

ang sinasabi niyo po,

04:42:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003964

wala pang amended proposal

04:42:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003965

para dito sa sinasabi niyong advanced manufacturing hub.

04:42:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003966

Tama po, Madam Speaker.

04:42:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003967

O may problema na sa proposal pa lang.

04:42:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003968

Ano ba siya?

04:42:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003969

O piscina?

04:43:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003970

O economic hub?

04:43:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003971

That matters

04:43:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003972

because

04:43:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003973

of the loss,

04:43:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003974

the existing loss.

04:43:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003975

Diba?

04:43:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003976

And how they will be applied.

04:43:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003977

Okay.

04:43:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003978

Ngayon,

04:43:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003979

dito sa offer ng BCDA,

04:43:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003980

meron pong terms,

04:43:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003981

lease period.

04:43:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003982

Diba?

04:43:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003983

Sabi dito,

04:43:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003984

ang offer ng Pilipinas as in-kind contribution of the Philippines,

04:43:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003985

yung ambag ng Pilipinas sa Paxilica,

04:43:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003986

two-year grace period,

04:43:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003987

ibig sabihin libre.

04:43:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003988

Walang renta, walang upa, kumbaga.

04:43:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003989

Tama po?

04:43:38Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003990

Tama po, Madam Speaker.

04:43:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003991

Okay.

04:43:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003992

Tapos,

04:43:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003993

year three,

04:43:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003994

until end of term,

04:43:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003995

to be discussed.

04:43:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003996

So, pag-usapan na lang

04:43:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003997

after two years.

04:43:49Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-003998

Madam Speaker.

04:43:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-003999

Nasa ilalim po yan ng section

04:43:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004000

A called lease period.

04:43:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004001

However,

04:43:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004002

tapos sunod,

04:43:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004003

renewal and reversion.

04:43:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004004

Pero, wala namang binabanggit

04:44:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004005

about the actual lease period.

04:44:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004006

Gano'ng katagal po yung

04:44:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004007

magiging lease?

04:44:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004008

Wala pong nakalagay dito?

04:44:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004009

Wala pa po, Madam Speaker.

04:44:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004010

Okay.

04:44:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004011

Gano'ng katagal nga ba

04:44:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004012

ang magiging lease period?

04:44:13Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004013

It will depend po doon sa

04:44:15Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004014

mapag-uusapan po

04:44:16Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004015

at mapag-finalize po.

04:44:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004016

Depends sa mapag-uusapan.

04:44:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004017

Minimum two years,

04:44:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004018

yun ang in-offer nyo.

04:44:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004019

Tapos, pwedeng

04:44:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004020

a third year,

04:44:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004021

three years onwards,

04:44:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004022

pero pag-uusapan pa.

04:44:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004023

Under our laws,

04:44:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004024

hanggang gano'ng katagal po

04:44:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004025

pwede ang lease,

04:44:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004026

maximum?

04:44:36Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004027

Sa bago po nating batas,

04:44:38Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004028

99 years.

04:44:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004029

99 years.

04:44:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004030

Pwedeng 99 years.

04:44:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004031

No?

04:44:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004032

Okay.

04:44:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004033

Ito, wala pang masabi.

04:44:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004034

In other words,

04:44:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004035

bakit wala pang masabi?

04:44:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004036

Posible ba na after two years,

04:44:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004037

di natin alam kung nandyan pa

04:44:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004038

ang Trump administration?

04:44:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004039

Eh, definitely,

04:44:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004040

wala na ang Trump administration.

04:44:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004041

Last term na ni Trump.

04:44:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004042

Hindi po ba pwede rin na

04:44:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004043

pag may bagong...

04:44:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004044

Presidente ng U.S., baka hindi na ituloy ito.

04:45:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004045

Di ba posible yun?

04:45:06Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004046

Madam Speaker, kaya po,

04:45:08Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004047

two years grace period.

04:45:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004048

Ayun.

04:45:11Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004049

Tapos, upon discussion,

04:45:13Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004050

kung ilan po yung years na mapag-uusapan,

04:45:17Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004051

at ano po yung magiging lease rate year three onward.

04:45:20Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004052

So, again, mahila po mag-speculate

04:45:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004053

kasi po wala pa po tayong final agreement.

04:45:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004054

Okay. So, yun po malinaw ang offer.

04:45:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004055

Pero ang sabi po dito ni Helberg,

04:45:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004056

yung Amerikano,

04:45:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004057

sabi niya,

04:45:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004058

the United States welcomes this generous offer

04:45:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004059

and accepts the proposed two-year rent-free lease

04:45:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004060

as in-kind confirmation

04:45:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004061

from the government of the Philippines

04:45:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004062

subject to confirmation of the precise location and boundaries

04:45:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004063

and conclusion of an appropriate lease agreement

04:45:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004064

along the lines proposed in your letter.

04:45:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004065

So, tinanggap na ng mga Amerikano,

04:45:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004066

sabi, okay, libre.

04:45:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004067

Okay. Payag kami dyan.

04:46:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004068

Dalawang taon.

04:46:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004069

Tapos, further negotiation.

04:46:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004070

Okay. Malinaw po yun, no?

04:46:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004071

Ngayon, dun sa issue, dito po sa letter nyo,

04:46:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004072

regarding status and access.

04:46:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004073

Status and access.

04:46:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004074

Both governments shall consult

04:46:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004075

with respect to the status of personnel

04:46:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004076

assigned to the coordination of the government.

04:46:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004077

The coordination office

04:46:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004078

and arrangements for access and internal security

04:46:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004079

applicable to the facility and its personnel

04:46:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004080

consistent with the provisions of Republic Act No. 7916,

04:46:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004081

otherwise known as the Special Economic Zone Act of 1995

04:46:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004082

and other relevant laws of the Philippines.

04:46:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004083

So, actually, ang sabi dito,

04:46:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004084

status of personnel assigned to the coordination office.

04:46:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004085

So, ang dating po dito,

04:46:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004086

government personnel,

04:46:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004087

yan,

04:46:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004088

na-assign ng gobyerno nyo.

04:47:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004089

Tama po.

04:47:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004090

Ganun yun, eh.

04:47:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004091

Yun, nare-reading ko.

04:47:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004092

So, in other words,

04:47:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004093

as conceptualized,

04:47:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004094

may personnel na-assign ng dalawang panig.

04:47:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004095

Government of the Philippines

04:47:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004096

and then the government of the US,

04:47:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004097

you will assign these personnel

04:47:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004098

as to their status,

04:47:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004099

yung diplomatic status,

04:47:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004100

arrangement for access and internal security.

04:47:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004101

Pag-uusapan, pero susundin ng batas.

04:47:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004102

Ganun yun, di ba?

04:47:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004103

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

04:47:34Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004104

etong proposal po,

04:47:36Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004105

is like a less or lessy agreement.

04:47:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004106

Kaya po pinag-uusapan po yung area

04:47:41Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004107

which is 1,600 hectares or 4,000 acres

04:47:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004108

at meron pong lease payments.

04:47:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004109

Okay.

04:47:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004110

No, well, but this proposal

04:47:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004111

as submitted and officially accepted,

04:47:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004112

submitted by Philippine government,

04:47:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004113

officially accepted,

04:47:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004114

iba po yung terms.

04:47:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004115

This is not a lease agreement.

04:48:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004116

Parang usapan to between two governments,

04:48:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004117

about a joint coordination office.

04:48:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004118

Okay. Ngayon, sinasabi nyo,

04:48:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004119

iba na ang usapan.

04:48:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004120

Pero binanggit nyo,

04:48:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004121

status of personnel consistent

04:48:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004122

with the provisions of Republic Act No. 7916.

04:48:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004123

O.

04:48:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004124

Tignan natin ang Republic Act No. 7916.

04:48:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004125

That is, of course, the,

04:48:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004126

ano nga yan,

04:48:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004127

that is the,

04:48:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004128

the legal framework

04:48:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004129

for the Special Economic Zone Act of 1995.

04:48:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004130

Short title.

04:48:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004131

Para maiksina lang.

04:48:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004132

Tama po.

04:48:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004133

Yan ang tinutukoy nyo.

04:48:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004134

And then,

04:48:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004135

with regard to status of personnel,

04:48:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004136

ang applicable lang po rin,

04:48:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004137

status and access,

04:48:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004138

ang applicable po rito na nakikita ko

04:48:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004139

is section 10.

04:48:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004140

Immigration.

04:48:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004141

Tama po ba?

04:48:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004142

Any investor,

04:48:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004143

within the Ecozone,

04:48:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004144

whose initial investment

04:49:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004145

shall not be less than $150,000,

04:49:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004146

his or her spouse,

04:49:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004147

and dependent children,

04:49:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004148

under 21 years of age,

04:49:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004149

shall be granted permanent resident status

04:49:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004150

within the Ecozone.

04:49:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004151

They shall have freedom of ingress and egress

04:49:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004152

to and from the Ecozone,

04:49:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004153

without any need of special authorization

04:49:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004154

from the Bureau of Immigration.

04:49:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004155

The PESA,

04:49:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004156

shall issue working visas,

04:49:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004157

renewable every two years,

04:49:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004158

to foreign executives

04:49:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004159

and other aliens

04:49:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004160

possessing highly technical skills

04:49:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004161

which no Filipino

04:49:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004162

within the Ecozone possesses,

04:49:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004163

as certified by the Department of Labor and Employment.

04:49:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004164

The names of aliens

04:49:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004165

granted permanent resident status

04:49:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004166

and working visas by the PESA

04:49:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004167

shall be reported to the Bureau of Immigration

04:49:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004168

within 30 days after the issue once they're off.

04:49:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004169

Yun po ba ang tinutukoy

04:49:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004170

na probisyon dito?

04:50:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004171

Sabi nito eh,

04:50:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004172

consistent with the provisions

04:50:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004173

of Republic Act No. 7916.

04:50:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004174

Yes, Madam Speaker.

04:50:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004175

Okay.

04:50:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004176

So,

04:50:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004177

in other words,

04:50:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004178

permanent resident status

04:50:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004179

kapag ka-investor,

04:50:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004180

nag-invest,

04:50:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004181

yung kapitalista mismo

04:50:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004182

na nag-invest ng $150,000 or more.

04:50:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004183

Tama po?

04:50:26Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004184

Yes, Madam Speaker.

04:50:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004185

Okay.

04:50:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004186

Okay.

04:50:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004187

So, yan po.

04:50:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004188

Pero, nalilito na po tayo ngayon,

04:50:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004189

yung Coordination Office.

04:50:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004190

Mukhang kahit po yung BCDA

04:50:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004191

nalito sa kanilang proposal.

04:50:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004192

Yun po ang malinaw

04:50:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004193

na pinopropose nyo opisina,

04:50:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004194

pero actually,

04:50:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004195

ang concept nyo na ngayon

04:50:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004196

ay Advanced AI Manufacturing Zone,

04:50:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004197

meaning Ecozone.

04:50:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004198

No?

04:50:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004199

Okay.

04:50:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004200

So, pinoint out po natin

04:51:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004201

sa proposal pa lang.

04:51:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004202

Mukhang may problema na.

04:51:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004203

Ngayon,

04:51:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004204

palapit na po yung matapos yung oras.

04:51:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004205

Kaya tatalon ako.

04:51:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004206

Doon nga po sa issue ng

04:51:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004207

indigenous people.

04:51:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004208

No?

04:51:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004209

Meron pong sulat.

04:51:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004210

Pakiflash na lang.

04:51:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004211

Kanina, actually,

04:51:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004212

binasa ko almost yung full text nito

04:51:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004213

in my interpolation

04:51:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004214

on the NCIS.

04:51:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004215

This is the letter

04:51:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004216

coming from

04:51:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004217

the BCDA.

04:51:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004218

So, meron pong sulat ang BCDA

04:51:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004219

sa mga residente

04:51:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004220

ng, in this case,

04:51:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004221

Barangay Santa Lucia

04:51:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004222

sa Kapas Tarlac.

04:51:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004223

Ang sabi,

04:51:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004224

tungkol daw po ito sa proyekto

04:51:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004225

maapektuhan ng proyektong

04:51:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004226

New Clark City,

04:51:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004227

kaya kayo po ay malugod namin

04:51:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004228

inaanyayahan na makipag-ugnayan

04:51:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004229

sa aming opisina upang

04:51:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004230

mapag-usapan

04:51:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004231

ang mga prosesong pagdadaanan

04:52:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004232

ng proyekto,

04:52:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004233

kasama rito ang anumang tulong

04:52:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004234

na may pagkakaloob ng gobyerno.

04:52:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004235

No?

04:52:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004236

At ang

04:52:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004237

ibig po sabihin,

04:52:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004238

sabi ng mga residente rito,

04:52:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004239

ay essentially,

04:52:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004240

pagpapalikas na sa kanila.

04:52:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004241

Yung sinasabing tulong

04:52:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004242

ay tulong para

04:52:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004243

sa relocation.

04:52:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004244

No?

04:52:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004245

Pag-alis.

04:52:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004246

Kinukompirmadyo po ba

04:52:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004247

na

04:52:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004248

ongoing po

04:52:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004249

ang pamimigay ng ganitong mga sulat

04:52:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004250

at kalakit nung

04:52:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004251

o kasama nung

04:52:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004252

pagpapaalis

04:52:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004253

sa mga residente?

04:52:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004254

Madam Speaker,

04:52:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004255

Distinguished Colleague,

04:52:46Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004256

etong sulat na to po

04:52:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004257

ay para po sa

04:52:49Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004258

Master Development Plan

04:52:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004259

ng BCDA

04:52:53Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004260

sa New Clark City.

04:52:56Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004261

So, ibig sabihin po,

04:52:57Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004262

pwede pong,

04:52:59Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004263

hindi po,

04:53:00Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004264

hindi ko po alam kung kanina ito

04:53:01Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004265

naka-address,

04:53:02Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004266

pero pwede pong ito ay para sa daan

04:53:04Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004267

o sa ibang bagay

04:53:06Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004268

sa development po

04:53:07Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004269

ng Master Plan

04:53:08Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004270

ng buong New Clark City.

04:53:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004271

Well, katulad na nabanggit

04:53:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004272

ng mga iba nating kasamahan,

04:53:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004273

ay malagana po.

04:53:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004274

Marami po ang pinapadala

04:53:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004275

ng ganyan,

04:53:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004276

kasama po yung mga

04:53:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004277

nasa barangay ng Arangurin,

04:53:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004278

Kutkut,

04:53:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004279

O'Donnell,

04:53:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004280

at ito, Santa Lucia,

04:53:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004281

hindi po ba ito ay saklaw din

04:53:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004282

nung proyektong Paksilika

04:53:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004283

sa New Clark City?

04:53:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004284

Ito pong sulat,

04:53:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004285

sorry Madam Speaker,

04:53:42Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004286

Madam Speaker,

04:53:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004287

itong sulat pong ito,

04:53:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004288

again,

04:53:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004289

is for the

04:53:46Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004290

Master Plan Development

04:53:48Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004291

para po maipaliwanag

04:53:50Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004292

dito po sa atin pong mga

04:53:52Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004293

sinulatan.

04:53:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004294

Okay.

04:53:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004295

Pero tama po,

04:53:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004296

Yes, Madam Speaker,

04:54:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004297

patapos na po.

04:54:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004298

Opo.

04:54:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004299

Tama po ba na yung mga barangay na ito

04:54:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004300

ay yung mahahagit

04:54:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004301

ng 1,600 hectares?

04:54:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004302

Ayan po, Arangurin, Kutkut,

04:54:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004303

O'Donnell,

04:54:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004304

Santa Lucia.

04:54:18Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004305

Madam Speaker,

04:54:19Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004306

Distinguished Colleague,

04:54:21Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004307

hindi po kasama

04:54:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004308

yung 1,600

04:54:26Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004309

dito,

04:54:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004310

hindi po tinutukoy

04:54:28Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004311

ng sulat na ito,

04:54:30Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004312

yung pong 1,600 hectares

04:54:32Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004313

ng camp.

04:54:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004314

Opo, yung sulat na yan.

04:54:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004315

Pero yung tanong ko po,

04:54:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004316

paano po yung mga barangay

04:54:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004317

ng Arangurin, Kutkut,

04:54:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004318

O'Donnell?

04:54:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004319

Ano po, Madam Speaker?

04:54:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004320

Can you repeat that please?

04:54:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004321

Arangurin,

04:54:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004322

Kutkut,

04:54:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004323

O'Donnell.

04:54:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004324

O'Donnell.

04:54:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004325

O'Donnell.

04:54:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004326

O'Donnell.

04:54:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004327

Yun po.

04:54:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004328

Nagpunta po kami doon.

04:54:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004329

Ganun ang pag-pronunciation.

04:54:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004330

Pag-pronunciation nila eh.

04:54:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004331

O'Donnell.

04:54:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004332

No?

04:55:07Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004333

Madam Speaker,

04:55:17Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004334

Distinguished Colleague,

04:55:18Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004335

yung sulat po ay pinadala

04:55:20Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004336

sa kanilang residential address

04:55:22Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004337

sa labas po

04:55:23Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004338

ng New Clark City.

04:55:25Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004339

Pero,

04:55:26Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004340

meron pong maapektuhan

04:55:27Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004341

sa loob ng New Clark City

04:55:29Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004342

sa Master Plan Development.

04:55:31Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004343

Kaya po sila sinulatan.

04:55:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004344

Hindi nga yung sulat.

04:55:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004345

Anong mga barangay yung covered

04:55:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004346

nung 1,600?

04:55:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004347

Barangay.

04:55:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004348

Yan na nga.

04:55:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004349

At hindi po ba kasama dito

04:55:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004350

yung Arangurin, Kutkut,

04:55:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004351

O'Donnell?

04:55:45Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004352

Arangurin.

04:55:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004353

Madam Speaker,

04:55:48Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004354

Distinguished Colleague,

04:55:49Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004355

yung barangay po

04:55:50Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004356

sa kapas po lahat ito.

04:55:51Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004357

Arangule.

04:55:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004358

Opo.

04:55:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004359

Sa kapas po lahat ito.

04:55:54Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004360

Arangule.

04:55:56Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004361

Arangguren.

04:55:58Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004362

Opo.

04:55:58Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004363

With the indulgence

04:55:59Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004364

of our good colleague.

04:56:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004365

Opo.

04:56:01Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004366

Your time is past 30 minutes.

04:56:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004367

Yes.

04:56:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004368

Patapos na po.

04:56:05Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004369

Please wind up.

04:56:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004370

Naghihintay lang po tayo sa sagot,

04:56:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004371

Madam Speaker.

04:56:09Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004372

Madam Speaker,

04:56:10Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004373

yung barangay po

04:56:11Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004374

ng Arangguran at O'Donnell.

04:56:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004375

Ay kasama.

04:56:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004376

Okay.

04:56:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004377

At ito po ay,

04:56:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004378

naggaling kami ron

04:56:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004379

nung September 11,

04:56:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004380

karamihan po ng mga residente

04:56:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004381

ay mga AITA.

04:56:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004382

So, ang tanong po ngayon,

04:56:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004383

ay meron na po bang

04:56:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004384

free prior informed consent

04:56:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004385

para sa pagtutuloy ng proyekto

04:56:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004386

ng Pax Silica.

04:56:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004387

Madam Speaker,

04:56:38Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004388

distinguished colleague,

04:56:39Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004389

again,

04:56:40Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004390

hindi po ito ancestral domain.

04:56:43Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004391

Opo.

04:56:44Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004392

Kaya po,

04:56:47Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004393

hindi po required sa aming pananaw

04:56:50Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004394

yung FPIC.

04:56:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004395

Hindi po.

04:56:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004396

Dahil totoo naman yun,

04:56:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004397

wala pa silang CADTI pending pa po,

04:56:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004398

originally filed in 1991,

04:57:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004399

1999,

04:57:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004400

and refiled in 2021.

04:57:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004401

Meron pong application for CADTI

04:57:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004402

sa area na yan,

04:57:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004403

ang mga AITA Hungay.

04:57:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004404

Yun po ang pangalan ng kanilang grupo

04:57:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004405

at confirmado po yan ng NCIP.

04:57:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004406

At sinasabi ng NCIP,

04:57:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004407

basta may pending application,

04:57:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004408

kailangan pa rin may konsultasyon

04:57:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004409

sa mga IP na nandyan po.

04:57:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004410

Madam Speaker,

04:57:28Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004411

distinguished colleague,

04:57:30Source

Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia

asr-004412

ang BCDA po ay nakikipag-ugnayan sa NCIP.

04:57:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004413

Okay.

04:57:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004414

Madam Speaker,

04:57:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004415

yamang may mga concerns po tayo.

04:57:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004416

Inamin ng NCIP,

04:57:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004417

o napakita natin na kahit yung

04:57:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004418

original proposal ng BCDA ay

04:57:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004419

kahit sila nalilito.

04:57:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004420

Ano ba talaga?

04:57:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004421

Coordination office o economic zone?

04:57:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004422

Pangalawa,

04:57:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004423

malinaw po,

04:57:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004424

inamin din,

04:57:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004425

na meron talagang mga barangay na masasaklaw dito

04:57:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004426

na meron na komunidad ng mga AITA,

04:58:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004427

ng mga indigenous peoples.

04:58:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004428

At sinasabi nila,

04:58:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004429

sa tingin nila,

04:58:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004430

hindi raw kailangan na

04:58:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004431

makuha ang kanilang consent.

04:58:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004432

Hindi sila covered ng IPRA requirements, no?

04:58:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004435

Yamang may mga serious concerns pa po tayo rito.

04:58:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004436

Madam Speaker,

04:58:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004437

I move to suspend deliberation on the proposed budget

04:58:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004438

of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority

04:58:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004439

to allow the consideration of the proposed budget

04:58:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004440

of the other remaining agencies scheduled today.

04:58:39Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-004441

Madam Speaker,

04:58:40Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-004442

on the part of the majority,

04:58:41Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-004443

we join the minority in the motion.

04:58:43Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004444

There is a joint motion to suspend consideration

04:58:45Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004445

of the proposed budget of

04:58:46Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004446

Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

04:58:48Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004447

Do you hear an objection?

04:58:50Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004449

Hearing none,

04:58:51Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004450

the joint motion is approved.

04:58:56Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004451

Consideration of the proposed budget

04:58:58Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004452

of BCDA is suspended.

04:59:00Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004453

Majority Leader?

04:59:01Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004454

Madam Speaker,

04:59:02Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004455

I move to consider the proposed budget

04:59:04Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004456

of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority.

04:59:09Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004457

May we also request the Majority Leader

04:59:11Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004458

to move for the recognition

04:59:14Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004459

of the sponsor and the interpolator.

04:59:17Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004460

Madam Speaker,

04:59:18Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004461

may we acknowledge the officials

04:59:20Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004462

of the Subic Bay...

04:59:21Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004463

Session suspended.

04:59:36Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004464

Session resumed.

04:59:39Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004465

Madam Speaker,

04:59:40Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004466

may we acknowledge the officials

04:59:41Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004467

of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority,

04:59:43Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004468

Chairman and Administrator Eduardo Aliño.

04:59:46Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004469

I so move, Madam Speaker.

04:59:50Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004471

Madam Speaker,

04:59:51Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004472

I move that we recognize

04:59:52Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004473

the Honorable Bella Vanessa Swancing,

04:59:56Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004474

Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Subic Bay.

05:00:01Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004475

There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority

05:00:08Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004476

and for this purpose, the Hon. Bella Swansing is recognized to sponsor said measure

05:00:13Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004477

and the Hon. Rene Luis Co as interpellator.

05:00:16Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004478

Please proceed.

05:00:19Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004479

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, good evening.

05:00:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004480

And will the sponsor be open to answer a few questions in relation to the budget

05:00:33Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004481

and the policies of Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority?

05:00:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004482

Yes, gladly, Madam Speaker.

05:00:39Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004483

Okay. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we note that under the watch of the current administration,

05:00:47Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004484

SBMA has allowed 234 containers of suspected e-waste from the United States

05:00:53Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004485

to enter Subic Bay.

05:00:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004486

Since March 2025.

05:00:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004487

And another 184 containers almost arrived between August and September 2026,

05:01:04Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004488

all without the prior informed consent required by the Basel Convention.

05:01:08Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004489

Sa ilalim po ng Basel Convention, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

05:01:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004490

ng e-waste amendment na pumasok sa bisa noong Enero 2025,

05:01:17Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004491

halos lahat ng e-waste, hazardous man o hindi, ay kontrolado ng konbensyon.

05:01:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004493

Malinaw sa probisyon ng Article 4, subsection 5,

05:01:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004494

nagbabawal sa kalakalan ng basura sa isang non-party tulad ng United States.

05:01:35Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004495

In fact, kung meron pong trade or export galing OECD countries, EU countries,

05:01:41Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004496

or Liechtenstein, dapat limited lang sa kanila at hindi po sa labas nito mangyari.

05:01:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004497

Nonetheless, there's been export of e-waste from the United States imported to the Philippines.

05:01:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004498

Wala rin pong anumang bilateral agreement na nagpapahintulot ng importasyon ng e-waste mula sa US papunta sa Pilipinas.

05:02:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004499

This is confirmed by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

05:02:05Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004500

Ang umiira lamang nakasunduan ay para sa exports ng ating bansa papunta sa US, and not the other way around.

05:02:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004501

We have heard preliminarily some defenses of SBMA,

05:02:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004502

and this is also what is provided in an RTC ruling,

05:02:23Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004503

which allowed...

05:02:24Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004504

the activities of such trade in SBMA.

05:02:29Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004505

But Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, my question is,

05:02:33Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004506

does being a separate customs territory as provided in law enable SBMA to circumvent,

05:02:40Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004507

or essentially not follow, ratified international treaties and agreements?

05:02:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004508

Madam Speaker, the SBMA confirms the importation of scrapped mixed metals, computer accessories, used meter, used electronics, and scrapped copper.

05:03:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004509

However, these importations, as per the SBMA, adhere to international treaties.

05:03:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004510

Madam Speaker.

05:03:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004511

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ano pong reaction ng SBMA na...

05:03:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004512

na under the Convention, and even under the implementing DNR Department Order,

05:03:31Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004513

wala naman pong pagbubukod ng e-waste, na ito po ay separate or hindi considered as hazardous wastes.

05:03:42Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004514

Hazardous wastes po siya na nililimitahan yung import-export regulation trade po nito ng Basel Convention,

05:03:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004515

which...

05:03:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004516

which explicitly provides, hindi po pwedeng magkaroon ng export from a non-party to a state party.

05:04:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004517

...

05:04:21Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004518

What does the

05:04:21Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004519

sponsor say?

05:04:28Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004520

Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

05:04:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004521

SBMA still confirms that all importations of scrapped mixed metals are not hazardous.

05:04:41Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004522

These are...

05:04:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004523

These all adhere to all environmental regulations.

05:04:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004524

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, the Basel Action Network, which maintains and checks the compliance of states with the Basel Convention,

05:05:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004525

found in its field investigations in both the U.S. and the Philippines, that these containers that arrived at the Subic Port from the United States,

05:05:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004526

both contain hazardous electronic waste, classified as...

05:05:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004527

A-1181, and e-waste, requiring special consideration or Code 949.

05:05:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004528

These are Basel waste listings, illegal to be imported into the Philippines from the U.S.

05:05:35Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004529

due to the fact, again, that the U.S. is a non-party to the Convention.

05:05:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004530

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, what is the explanation behind the assertion that there is following of international treaty,

05:05:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004531

given the...

05:05:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004532

the citation of this representation right now?

05:05:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004533

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

05:05:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004534

the SBMA is willing to cooperate and to also submit to our Distinguished Colleague,

05:06:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004535

supporting documents that say that these materials are not hazardous,

05:06:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004536

just to establish that it also complies with all environmental compliances,

05:06:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004537

as well as international.

05:06:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004538

Madam Speaker, we will welcome these submissions.

05:06:26Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004539

But I'd like an explanation on the floor right now.

05:06:31Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004540

Ano po yung basihan kung bakit nasasabi, kahit succinctly po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

05:06:38Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004541

bakit po hindi iligal yung kalakala na ito?

05:06:41Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004542

Ano ang basihan kung bakit hindi po iligal ito?

05:06:45Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004543

We have heard the RTC ruling, which says nga po na separate customs territory ang SBMA.

05:06:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004544

But I believe...

05:06:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004545

Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

05:06:53Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004546

that doesn't mean that they are exempted from the Basel Convention,

05:06:56Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004547

the DNR Department Order implementing it,

05:07:00Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004548

and even other prevailing international laws and domestic regulations.

05:07:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004549

So, Madam Speaker, we will look forward to that.

05:07:09Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004550

But ano po on the floor, succinctly, ang rason?

05:07:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004551

Yes, Madam Speaker, just for the record also,

05:07:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004552

it's because the materials are not hazardous waste.

05:07:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004553

So, if I may...

05:07:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004554

Again, repeat.

05:07:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004555

These importations are scrap mixed metals, computer accessories,

05:07:30Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004556

used meters, used electronics, and scrap copper, which are not hazardous.

05:07:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004557

So, SBMA reiterates that these are not hazardous waste.

05:07:42Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004558

And so, the importation of such materials are not violated,

05:07:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004559

or doesn't violate international treaties and the Basel Convention as well.

05:07:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004560

Under what legal basis can the SBMA provide now to say that they are not hazardous waste?

05:08:01Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004561

Is this internal assessment?

05:08:03Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004562

Is this a different citation which they can state where it is classified differently

05:08:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004563

because the prevailing rules as of now lists the containers as hazardous electronic wastes and e-waste,

05:08:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004564

is requiring special consideration?

05:08:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004565

Madam Speaker, as for the SBMA, these materials are all inspected from importation.

05:08:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004566

Inspected by whom, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor.

05:08:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004567

Sorry.

05:08:47Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004568

Inspected by whom?

05:08:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004569

By the SBMA, Madam Speaker.

05:08:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004570

Is the...

05:08:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004571

The Bureau of Customs and DNR involved in the inspections, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

05:08:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004572

Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:08:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004573

Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

05:08:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004574

For now, there is no legal basis that has been cited other than the assurance that SBMA inspected them.

05:09:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004575

So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, given the limited time that I have,

05:09:15Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004576

let it be stated on the record that to the question and to the...

05:09:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004577

legal basis that this representation cited, there has been no counter-legal basis provided.

05:09:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004578

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, my next line of question would be regarding the position of SBMA

05:09:35Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004579

in relation to a Committee on Ecology meeting I had the opportunity to attend on March 11, 2026,

05:09:44Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004580

where our topic is hazardous waste management and strengthening the Environmental Management Bureau.

05:09:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004581

We talked about the possible amendment of the Toxic and Hazardous Wastes Act present and prevailing in our jurisprudence now.

05:10:02Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004582

SBMA was in attendance and it gave the position that they are pushing for the designation of free trade zones such as SUBIC

05:10:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004583

to become Basel Convention Free Zones.

05:10:16Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004584

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano pong ibig sabihin ng SBMA nung sinabi niya na gustong maging Basel Convention Free Zone

05:10:22Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004587

ang Subic Freeport?

05:10:25Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004588

And is the agency asking for an exception from international treaties and our local environmental laws?

05:10:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004589

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the reason cited by the SBMA is some locators would want to

05:10:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004591

expand their operations to include imports from the United States, and because the United States is not a signatory of the Basel Convention, that is the basis for the statement of the SBMA.

05:11:06Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004592

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, I think desiring trade with the United States is not a heavy enough justification to look for an exception from a prevailing international treaty that seeks to protect the Philippines from the transboundary waste trade disproportionately affecting Southeast Asian countries, to the point that there has to be a call from Southeast Asian countries that [unclear] not the

05:11:51Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004593

dumping ground or trash can of developed countries. But at the end of the day, it will remove us from protections already in place, not just in discussion with the US but also with other countries that may seek to do trade.

05:12:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004594

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we will ask instead for a written explanation for that comment given in the March 11, 2026 hearing.

05:12:30Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004595

My next question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, magkano po ba ang kinikita ng SBMA mula sa kalakalan ng recyclable waste?

05:12:41Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004596

How much, I assume, of course, may kita ang ating mga locators dyan.

05:12:45Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004597

How much of it goes to SBMA, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

05:13:19Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004598

[unclear] If the distinguished colleague will be willing to allow our distinguished sponsor and the SBMA family to submit a written report.

05:13:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004600

Okay, for payments of recyclers, as per SBMA data, it's around 200, sorry, 205 million pesos, Madam Speaker.

05:14:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004601

205,864,939 pesos for 2025.

05:14:12Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004602

Madam Speaker, good sponsor, in the interest of time, we will also be requesting the same to be submitted via a written report.

05:14:21Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004604

As well as details on how much private recycling facilities yield in profit, alongside how much that would go to SBMA.

05:14:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004605

My next question would be in relation to its budget.

05:14:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004606

SBMA's proposed 500 million subsidy is for ecozone infrastructure, but the NEP also records 1 billion in unreleased 2025 appropriations.

05:14:46Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004607

Has that amount now been released, Madam Speaker? We'd like to seek a clarification.

05:14:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004608

Which brought, maybe that, Madam Speaker?

05:15:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004609

It hasn't been released yet, Madam Speaker.

05:15:07Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004610

It has not yet been released, Madam Speaker.

05:15:10Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004611

We also just ask to submit by report which projects are affected because of its non-release yet

05:15:18Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004612

and what must be resolved before they can proceed, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

05:15:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004613

As we will comply, Madam Speaker.

05:15:25Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004614

My next question would be in relation to the joint efforts of the BOC, the DENREMB, and SBMA,

05:15:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004615

as stated and referenced earlier.

05:15:35Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004616

We saw that in July 1 of this year, they publicly posted that they conducted a joint inspection

05:15:39Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004617

on several recycling locators in Subic.

05:15:43Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004618

Can this representation be furnished with a copy of this report, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor?

05:15:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004619

Yes, we will comply, Madam Speaker.

05:15:50Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004620

And Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, if ma, masama po sana,

05:15:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004621

ilan ang...

05:15:55Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004622

di lang ng mga nag-ooperate ng mga recycling locators doon

05:15:59Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004623

because when we asked DENREMB yesterday, wala raw po silang data on the recycling facilities in Subic.

05:16:07Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004624

And so, the appropriate agency to ask would be the one...

05:16:13Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004625

SBMA, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

05:16:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004626

Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:16:16Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004627

We'll also give our distinguished colleague a copy, but there are, as of now, 14 active locators, 18 total.

05:16:23Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004628

14, 1-4?

05:16:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004629

1-4, yes.

05:16:25Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004630

14, Madam Speaker.

05:16:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004631

We will submit the list, Madam Speaker.

05:16:27Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004632

Thank you.

05:16:28Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004633

And my last line of questioning, Madam Speaker, this would be in relation to the public pronouncements of SBMA

05:16:36Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004634

in relation to Paxilica.

05:16:37Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004635

We have seen that sa pinirmahan na MOU ng SBMA at BCDA, may pagbubukas na gagamitin ng Subic Bayport

05:16:48Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004636

bilang quote-unquote maritime gateway ng Paxilica.

05:16:52Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004637

Maari po bang malaman ang extent nito?

05:17:03Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004638

I believe that was the last question of our distinguished colleague.

05:17:10Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004639

And after the sponsor response, may we request our distinguished colleague from Kabataan Party List to wrap up.

05:17:17Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004640

Yes, Madam Speaker, it will be my last question.

05:17:19Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004641

I just like to note that according to the press release, the port will serve DAO.

05:17:25Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004642

It's a critical gateway enabling the efficient movement of raw materials into the country

05:17:29Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004643

and timely delivery of finished products to customers.

05:17:32Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004644

So we'd like clarification sa extent nito, Madam Speaker.

05:17:35Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004645

Good sponsor.

05:17:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004646

Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:17:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004647

This is a non-binding agreement.

05:17:39Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004648

It's a MOU between BCDA and SBMA.

05:17:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004649

So it's just restricted to the use of Port of Subic, the limited use of Port of Subic for the maritime logistics requirements of the proposed project.

05:17:54Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004650

Okay, a copy of this MOU.

05:17:55Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004651

A copy of this MOU would also be requested, Madam Speaker.

05:17:57Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004652

Good sponsor.

05:17:58Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004653

I have no further questions.

05:17:59Source

Rep. Renee Louise M. Co

asr-004654

Thank you for your time and for the clarification.

05:18:01Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004655

Majority Leader.

05:18:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004656

...

05:18:04Source

Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas

asr-004657

Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Antonio Tino for his interpellation.

05:18:08Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004658

The Honorable Antonio Tino is recognized.

05:18:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004659

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

05:18:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004660

Ilang mga tanong po sa sponsor natin.

05:18:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004661

Well, I'll ask the sponsor to explain.

05:18:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004662

Ano po ba ang ambag ng SBMA sa ekonomiya ng Pilipinas?

05:18:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004663

Mahalaga ba?

05:18:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004664

Malaki ba?

05:18:54Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004665

Malaki.

05:18:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004666

Madam Speaker, briefly, as of now, there are 1,783 locators.

05:19:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004667

Ang ini-employ po ang may trabaho dahil sa SBMA ay 174,930 na tao.

05:19:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004668

Ang total investment na nakuha na ng SBMA ay 610 billion pesos.

05:19:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004669

Tapos ang nabigay na sa Pambansang Pamalaan through dividends is 12.15.

05:19:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004670

12.15 billion pesos, Madam Speaker.

05:19:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004671

Okay, 12.15 billion pesos ang nabigay.

05:19:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004672

Iyan po ba para sa isang taon?

05:19:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004673

Which year was that?

05:19:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004674

Could you just clarify?

05:19:36Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004675

Mula 1999, Madam Speaker.

05:19:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004676

Mula 1999.

05:19:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004677

Okay.

05:19:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004678

So, okay, 174,000 plus ang employed.

05:19:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004679

And you mentioned over 1,000 locators.

05:19:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004680

Ilan po yung locators?

05:19:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004681

1,783.

05:19:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004682

As of June.

05:19:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004683

1,783 locators.

05:19:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004684

Ibig sabihin, iba't-ibang mga negosyo.

05:19:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004685

Mga foreign investor po ba ito?

05:20:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004686

O hindi lahat?

05:20:03Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004687

Foreign and domestic po, mix po.

05:20:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004688

Foreign and domestic investors.

05:20:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004689

And in terms of...

05:20:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004690

Tama po ba? May mga information din tayo rito.

05:20:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004691

How big is the zone?

05:20:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004692

Is it...

05:20:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004693

How big is the zone?

05:20:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004694

60,000 square kilometers, Madam Speaker.

05:20:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004695

Square?

05:20:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004696

Sixty-seven square, siguro, hektars po.

05:20:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004697

Sixty thousand square meters.

05:20:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004698

Ano ilan yun yung hektars?

05:20:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004699

Hektars siguro.

05:20:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004700

Hektars.

05:20:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004701

Hindi naman po square kilometers.

05:20:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004702

Sixty-seven thousand hektars.

05:20:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004703

Sixty-seven thousand hektars.

05:20:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004704

And is it correct there are 15 operational piers and wharves?

05:20:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004705

Kasi subik harbor yan, di ba?

05:20:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004706

So, mainly port, it used to be.

05:20:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004707

Alam naman natin.

05:20:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004708

A naval base, di ba?

05:20:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004709

Yes.

05:20:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004710

So, is that correct?

05:20:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004711

There are 15 operational piers and wharves?

05:21:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004712

Yes, Madam Speaker, we confirm.

05:21:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004713

Okay.

05:21:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004714

Container throughput.

05:21:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004715

Ito, may mga info po tayong nakuha.

05:21:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004716

Yung container, shipping container.

05:21:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004717

Sabi po rito, latest figure 2024.

05:21:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004718

Roughly 600,000 TEU.

05:21:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004719

So, parang container, yun yung standard measure ng container size, di ba?

05:21:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004720

Yes.

05:21:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004721

Is that more or less correct?

05:21:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004722

Ganon, yung shipping na dumadaan dyan?

05:21:31Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004723

Yes, total capacity is 600,000, Madam Speaker.

05:21:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004724

Okay.

05:21:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004725

At in terms of GDP, meron ba kayong figure sa ambag ng subik sa GDP, kumbaga, ng Pilipinas?

05:21:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004726

Meron lang po tayo for, ano, well, overall contribution to the national economy.

05:21:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004727

So, for 2020, isa sabi dito po yung collections from the Bureau of Customs, yung mga taxes po na binabayaran sa BIR, yung dividends po na babayaran sa national government, tapos sa LGU share.

05:22:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004728

So, 2025 po, 53.1 billion pesos.

05:22:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004729

Consistent po na over 50 billion since 2022, per year, na nabibigay po ng SBMA.

05:22:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004730

Consistent po na.

05:22:25Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004731

Over 50 billion po ang naibibigay ng SBMA.

05:22:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004732

Consistently, over 50 billion ang nabibigay ng subik ng SBMA. Tama po ba?

05:22:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004733

Apo.

05:22:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004734

Sa national government. So, safe to say, napakahalaga po nito, hindi lang sa regional economy ng Region 3, kundi national economy. Tama po ba?

05:22:44Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004735

Apo, Madam Speaker.

05:22:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004736

Tama. Okay.

05:22:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004737

At kanina, pinanong natin sa BCDA,

05:22:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004738

kinonfirm nila.

05:22:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004739

Gusto ko rin marinig sa inyo, nagkaroon po ng MOU sa pagitan ng BCDA at SBMA designating the port of subik as the primary entry and exit point for logistics, etc. under Paxilica. Correct?

05:23:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004740

Tama po ba yun?

05:23:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004741

Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:23:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004742

Okay. So, in other words, involved din po sa Paxilica ang subik. Tama po?

05:23:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004743

Yes, Madam Speaker. As a port.

05:23:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004744

As the port. Parang dito yung main na...

05:23:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004745

Entry and exit point. Dalu yan ng mga investment, produkto, and so on. Including, for example, energy. Parang ganun po yung narinig natin.

05:23:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004746

Madam Speaker, as per the MOU, binasignate lang po ang port of subik as yung gateway for the maritime logistics requirements.

05:23:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004747

Okay. Sige. Okay. Now, yung subik, hindi po yan EDCA site, hindi po ba?

05:23:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004748

Hindi po, Madam Speaker.

05:23:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004749

And necessarily, hindi siya EDCA site kasi yung mga approved locations under the EDCA agreement, they have to be properties provided by the AFP and DND, mga military locations. So, subik, hindi. Tama?

05:24:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004750

Hindi po, Madam Speaker.

05:24:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004751

Nevertheless, tama rin po ba na malaganap ang gamit ng US military sa subik? Is that correct?

05:24:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004752

Yes.

05:24:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004753

Okay.

05:24:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004754

Naku, yung oras tumutuloy, Madam Speaker. So, i-consider nyo na lang yan.

05:24:43Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004755

If our distinguished colleague is amenable, the SBMA family can actually furnish your office to our good sponsor, a written response to your queries.

05:24:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004756

Okay. That would be great, Madam Speaker. But I think the sponsor is also ready to give a response.

05:25:00Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004757

Yes. The SBMA confirms that there are economic activities that involve American firms, American actors.

05:25:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004758

American firms servicing the US military. Correct?

05:25:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004759

Yes. Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:25:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004760

For example, let me cite, ito based on mga open source research, diba? Subik Dry Dock Corporation. Tama po ba?

05:25:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004761

Yes.

05:25:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004762

Ginagawa nila, repair and overhaul of US Navy vessels. Correct?

05:25:32Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004763

Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:25:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004764

Okay. The PCSPC fuel terminal, yung pinakamalaking fuel depot sa buong bansa, in fact, that is owned by an American equity firm, I-squared Capital.

05:25:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004765

No?

05:25:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004766

At, hindi po ba, among others, it stores fuel...

05:25:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004767

It stores fuel for exclusive use of the US Navy. Tama po ba? Among others, hindi lahat. Hindi lahat. Pero merong fuel na ginagamit ng US Navy.

05:26:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004768

Non-exclusive, Madam Speaker.

05:26:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004769

Not exclusive. Pero meron. Tama po. Correct?

05:26:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004770

Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:26:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004771

Okay. Alam ko, yung recently, yung PNOC, bumili ng diesel, tapos nilagay din dyan. Tama po ba?

05:26:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004772

Correct.

05:26:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004773

Strategic Oil Reserve or Fuel Reserve ay nandyan, katabi nung fuel ng US Navy. Tama po?

05:26:34Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004774

Opo.

05:26:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004775

Tama. Okay.

05:26:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004776

February 2025, US Marine Corps Repositioning Warehouse. This is a 5,300 square meter facility used to store vehicle communications assets, engineering assets. Correct?

05:26:53Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004777

Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker.

05:26:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004778

Correct. So yung US Marine Corps, meron silang storage facility dyan.

05:27:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004779

Army staging. Aguila, Subic. Processing and storage of US Army equipment.

05:27:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004780

Tama po ba? Ito, yung Aguila facility sa Subic, ginagamit ng US Army naman ito.

05:27:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004781

Isa, Marine Corps. Ito naman, Army.

05:27:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004782

And the contractor for that is an American logistics contractor for the U.S. military known as V2X.

05:27:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004783

Yun po, V2X. Alam po niyan ni Chairman.

05:27:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004784

Okay. V2X is a defense contractor for logistics ng U.S. military.

05:27:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004785

So ginagamit nila yan.

05:27:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004786

Yun, part of Subic Bay, ginagamit routinely for maintenance ng mga U.S. Navy ships including submarines.

05:28:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004787

Diba, yung mga Ohio-class nuclear submarines ng U.S. ay nandyan.

05:28:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004788

Dumadaong dyan, nagpapaayos, nagpaparefuel, and so on and so forth.

05:28:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004789

The most recent incident being a U.S. destroyer that was recently stranded for four days in the South China Sea.

05:28:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004790

Tapos nawala ng kuryente. Tapos dinala sa Subic. Tama po ba?

05:28:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004791

Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker.

05:28:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004792

Correct?

05:28:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004793

Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker.

05:28:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004794

You confirm, no? Okay.

05:28:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004795

So, malinaw po, as I said, extensively used by the U.S. military ang Subic.

05:28:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004796

In fact, mas ginagamit pa po ito ng U.S. military kesa sa mga EDCA locations, yung approved locations.

05:29:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004797

Tama po ba?

05:29:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004798

O hindi n?yo na, hindi n?yo na...

05:29:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004799

Hindi na sa inyo manggagaling. Ako na nagsasabi na ito talaga yung main...

05:29:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004800

Entry and exit point, storage point, logistics hub ng U.S. military dito sa Pilipinas.

05:29:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004801

Lalo na pagbalikatan. At saka yung ibang mga exercises. So, napakalinaw po nun.

05:29:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004802

Okay. At the same time, sinabi natin kanina, this is the main economic engine in Luzon.

05:29:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004803

And in much of... and in the larger Filipino economy, correct?

05:29:46Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004804

Yes.

05:29:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004805

Yes. Okay.

05:29:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004806

Okay. Ngayon, ito po ang isang concern natin dito, no?

05:29:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004807

Ano po ang nangyari sa Iran war, particularly sa Gulf State?

05:30:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004808

Diba?

05:30:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004809

Pwede po, meron tayong visual na naman yata.

05:30:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004810

Well, it is well known that during this ongoing, di pa po tapos na gera sa Iran,

05:30:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004811

of course, sinalakay ng US ang Iran way back end of February, beginning of March,

05:30:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004812

hanggang ngayon nagpapatuloy, nagdulot ng krisis na energy crisis.

05:30:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004813

We are still under a state of energy emergency, di ba?

05:30:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004814

Because of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

05:30:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004815

Pero ang isang nangyari po ay tinarget, in response, tinarget ng Iran

05:30:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004816

using their missile and drone capability, advanced missile and drone capability,

05:30:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004817

drone and missile capability.

05:30:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004818

Una, US bases throughout the Gulf.

05:31:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004819

In fact, nawasak yung main naval base ng 5th Fleet ng US sa Bahrain.

05:31:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004820

Kaya nga namu-problema ang US Navy ngayon dahil wala na silang main base logistics hub and so on in the Gulf.

05:31:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004821

Okay, wasak po yung base, umatras ang US na palayas, in other words, ng Iran.

05:31:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004822

Sa kanilang mga base militar, ang US.

05:31:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004823

Pero hindi lang po military targets ang tinarget ng Iran.

05:31:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004824

Tinarget din po nila extensively ang mga dual-use targets.

05:31:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004825

In other words, civilian facilities na may ginagamit din ng US military.

05:31:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004826

So, for example,

05:31:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004828

um,

05:31:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004830

according to our research,

05:31:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004831

the Iran,

05:31:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004832

Iran,

05:32:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004833

and its Iran-aligned groups,

05:32:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004834

for example, yung the Houthis in Yemen,

05:32:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004835

conducted at least 172 attacks on non-military infrastructure

05:32:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004836

across the six Gulf Cooperation Council states.

05:32:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004837

So, 172 attacks.

05:32:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004838

Anong mga tinarget?

05:32:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004839

Energy facilities.

05:32:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004841

Oil, gas, power, desalination facilities, airports and ports, yung Kuwait Airport, ay tinarget yan kasi ginagamit ng US military.

05:32:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004842

Commercial, mga industrial facilities, financial facilities, government facilities, data centers, for example.

05:32:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004843

Ito yung isang recent news report, sabi dito, ay Iran strikes on Amazon data centers.

05:32:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004844

These are Amazon data centers in the United Arab Emirates mainly, no?

05:32:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004845

UAE and Bahrain.

05:33:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004846

So, tinarget din po.

05:33:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004847

Sabi ng Iran, basta ginagamit ng US, no?

05:33:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004848

Whether yung explicitly military or, in this case, data centers.

05:33:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004849

Kasi AI, ginagamit yan ng US military.

05:33:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004850

So tinarget din nila.

05:33:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004852

And they very precisely targeted the data centers of Amazon in Bahrain as well as in the UAE.

05:33:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004853

Dalawang areas, no?

05:33:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004854

And the damage was so extensive na, sabi rito, caused permanent data loss.

05:33:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004855

Na yung mga data center, yung mga malalaking korporasyon, they upload all their data on the cloud, di ba?

05:33:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004856

To Amazon.

05:33:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004857

Isa sa pinakalimutan.

05:33:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004858

Pinaka-trusted, pinaka-malaki na cloud service along with Google and Microsoft, yung Azure.

05:34:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004859

So, in the case of Amazon, nawasak yung data center sa Bahrain, nawasak din yung sa UAE, nawala na yung backup.

05:34:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004860

Even though, isa sa mga pinagmamalaki ng Amazon, redundancy, siyempre, di ba?

05:34:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004861

Pag nasira yung isa dyan, meron kang backup.

05:34:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004862

Dito po, wasak po lahat.

05:34:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004863

Wala ng backup.

05:34:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004864

So, that means...

05:34:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004865

Significant damage, not just to the infrastructure, business damage, di ba?

05:34:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004866

Nawala na yung data ng mga kliyente, nung Amazon.

05:34:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004867

So, yan ang sinasabi dyan sa artikulo na yan.

05:34:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004868

Okay, that's just one example.

05:34:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004869

Of course, other major attacks are on Kuwait, for example, yung kanilang natural gas facility.

05:34:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004870

Very precisely targeted.

05:34:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004871

Kaya nga po, matindihan.

05:34:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004872

Ngayon, ang problema sa supply ng natural gas, among others.

05:34:57Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004873

If our distinguished colleague can please...

05:35:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004874

Sixteen minutes pa lang po, Madam Speaker.

05:35:03Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-004875

I thought you were going to reserve your energy for DOST.

05:35:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004876

Ah, well, don't worry, Madam Speaker.

05:35:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004877

Kaya pa natin, di ba?

05:35:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004878

Okay, so ano lang ang point?

05:35:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004879

Okay, malinaw po.

05:35:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004880

In times of war, even the international laws of war,

05:35:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004881

allow that, no?

05:35:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004882

Pagka yung facility, dual use,

05:35:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004883

ginagamit for civilian as well as military purposes.

05:35:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004884

Legitimate target.

05:35:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004885

No?

05:35:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004886

So, wasak!

05:35:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004887

Napakalaki ng economic damage to the Gulf states,

05:35:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004888

the economies of the Gulf states.

05:35:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004889

And remember, mga mayayamang bansa ito,

05:35:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004890

Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain.

05:35:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004891

Also remember,

05:35:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004892

these Gulf states also have massive...

05:35:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004893

military capabilities.

05:35:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004894

So, sila, they heavily invested in

05:35:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004895

the most sophisticated missile defense systems,

05:36:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004896

including yung Patriot system ng US.

05:36:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004897

No?

05:36:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004898

Pangontra sa mga missile attacks ng Iran.

05:36:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004899

Despite that,

05:36:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004900

ang laki pa rin ng nawasak.

05:36:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004901

Okay.

05:36:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004902

Anong point ko?

05:36:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004903

Bakit ko sinasabi to?

05:36:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004904

Siguro alam na natin,

05:36:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004905

ang pinupuntahan.

05:36:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004906

Ibalik natin ngayon

05:36:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004907

sa kaso ng Subic.

05:36:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004908

Kanina, sabi natin,

05:36:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004909

napakalaking ambag,

05:36:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004910

napakahalaga.

05:36:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004911

The main industrial engine

05:36:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004912

in Luzon and probably nationwide.

05:36:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004913

Kaso, pinakita din natin,

05:36:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004914

ay magkatabi na

05:36:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004915

at magkasama

05:36:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004916

yung economic na civilian

05:36:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004917

at saka US military.

05:36:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004918

Nilista.

05:36:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004919

Ako kanina, dry dock,

05:36:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004920

mayroong storage facility,

05:36:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004921

fuel storage.

05:37:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004922

No, yung pinakamalaking fuel

05:37:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004923

dito ng Pilipinas,

05:37:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004924

nandun yung sarili nating reserves,

05:37:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004925

nandun din yung reserves

05:37:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004926

ng US military.

05:37:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004927

Galing pa po yan sa Hawaii,

05:37:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004928

yung sinara nilang facility.

05:37:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004929

Tama po ba?

05:37:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004930

Does the SBMA confirm that?

05:37:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004931

No, yung fuel dito ng Hawaii

05:37:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004932

na sinara,

05:37:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004933

the Red Hill fuel,

05:37:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004934

fuel depot,

05:37:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004935

sinara,

05:37:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004936

dinala po sa Subic.

05:37:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004937

Okay?

05:37:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004938

Anyway,

05:37:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004939

my point being,

05:37:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004940

okay,

05:37:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004941

in the event of war,

05:37:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004942

ayaw natin ng gera,

05:37:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004943

pero ang US mismo,

05:37:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004944

kaya nga may Paxilica,

05:37:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004945

sinasabi nila,

05:37:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004946

paghahanda ito sa gera

05:37:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004947

laban sa China.

05:37:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004948

Diba?

05:37:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004949

US must secure its supply chains.

05:37:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004950

Because almost all the manufacturing

05:37:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004951

is coming from China.

05:37:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004952

Okay, so pag nagkaroon po ng gera

05:37:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004953

against,

05:37:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004954

ang US laban sa China,

05:38:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004955

eh,

05:38:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004956

batay sa nangyari sa Iran,

05:38:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004957

definitely,

05:38:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004958

target na po ang Subic.

05:38:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004959

You can bet on that.

05:38:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004960

At, alam na rin ito ng US.

05:38:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004961

This is why

05:38:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004962

the US

05:38:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004963

now has a project

05:38:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004964

to

05:38:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004965

ah,

05:38:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004966

to invest in

05:38:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004967

a fuel depot

05:38:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004968

in Davao,

05:38:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004969

in the Davao Gulf.

05:38:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004970

Dahil sabi mismo ng mga dokumento ng US,

05:38:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004971

vulnerable tayo sa Subic,

05:38:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004972

gumawa tayo ng fuel depot sa Davao.

05:38:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004973

Okay, alam ito ng US.

05:38:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004974

Pinaghahandaan na ito ng US.

05:38:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004975

So, ang tanong ko po

05:38:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004976

sa Subic,

05:38:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004977

sa SBMA,

05:38:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004978

ay,

05:38:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004979

ano po ang kapasidad nyo

05:38:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004980

para protektahan at depensahan

05:38:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004981

ang airfields,

05:38:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004982

ang SBMA

05:38:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004983

against

05:38:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004984

ah,

05:38:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004985

military attack

05:38:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004986

in case of

05:38:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004987

a war between

05:38:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004988

US and China.

05:39:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004989

Under the SBMA,

05:39:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004990

ah,

05:39:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004991

under the

05:39:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004992

Special Economic Zone Law,

05:39:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004993

yung security,

05:39:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004994

securing the zone,

05:39:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004995

is responsibility

05:39:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004996

of the national government.

05:39:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004997

Tama po ba?

05:39:12Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-004998

Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:39:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-004999

Yes.

05:39:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005000

So, ano po ang kakayahan

05:39:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005001

ng SBMA

05:39:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005002

na protektahan?

05:39:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005003

For example,

05:39:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005004

yung,

05:39:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005005

yung fuel depot,

05:39:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005006

sa Subic.

05:39:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005007

Sabi ko nga,

05:39:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005008

magkakatabi nyo,

05:39:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005009

yung tanke para sa US Navy

05:39:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005010

at yung reserve.

05:39:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005011

20 billion pesos

05:39:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005012

na diesel

05:39:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005013

na binili

05:39:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005014

ng PNOC

05:39:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005015

at the height of the

05:39:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005016

energy crisis,

05:39:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005017

ang malaking bahagi nyo,

05:39:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005018

nandyan.

05:39:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005019

So,

05:39:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005020

ano po ang kakayahan

05:39:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005021

ng SBMA

05:39:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005022

na protektahan

05:39:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005023

ang mga pasilidad na ito?

05:39:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005024

May kakayahan ba?

05:39:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005025

Well, Madam Speaker,

05:39:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005026

the mandate of SBMA

05:39:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005027

is to generate revenues

05:40:02Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005028

and to attract investment.

05:40:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005029

That's one.

05:40:05Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005030

Second,

05:40:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005031

well, besides the fact

05:40:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005032

that there is a military presence

05:40:10Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005033

on the northern part of SBMA,

05:40:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005034

Philippine Navy,

05:40:14Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005035

there's a presence

05:40:15Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005036

of the Philippine Navy there,

05:40:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005037

the SBMA also

05:40:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005038

continually coordinates

05:40:20Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005039

with local institutions

05:40:21Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005040

and law enforcement agencies.

05:40:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005041

Okay.

05:40:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005042

Kaya nga po,

05:40:24Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005043

ang daming maritime interdictions

05:40:27Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005044

na nahuhuli.

05:40:29Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005045

Not just the espionage activities,

05:40:33Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005046

but even anti-smuggling

05:40:35Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005047

and anti-drug operations.

05:40:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005048

Okay.

05:40:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005049

Oo.

05:40:37Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005050

So,

05:40:38Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005051

in terms of their capability

05:40:40Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005052

as to how to protect themselves

05:40:43Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005053

from attacks,

05:40:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005054

palagi naman pong coordinated

05:40:47Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005055

ang SBMA sa AFP,

05:40:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005056

sa iba't iba po po natin,

05:40:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005057

mga law enforcement agencies.

05:40:55Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005058

Besides that,

05:40:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005059

meron silang intelligence office,

05:40:59Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005060

so kasama dyan yung mga

05:41:01Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005061

different intelligence agencies natin.

05:41:04Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005062

Yun yung primary way

05:41:06Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005063

in which pinaprotektahan ng SBMA

05:41:08Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005064

yung sarili nila.

05:41:09Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005065

Madam Speaker.

05:41:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005066

Okay.

05:41:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005067

Sabi po sa Section 9

05:41:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005068

ng Special Economic Zone Law,

05:41:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005069

Ecozone Law,

05:41:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005070

Section 9,

05:41:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005071

Defense and Security,

05:41:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005072

the Defense of the Ecozone

05:41:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005073

and the Security of its Perimeter Fence,

05:41:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005074

shall be the responsibility

05:41:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005075

of the National Government

05:41:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005076

in coordination with the PESA.

05:41:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005077

So, essentially,

05:41:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005078

nakadepende talaga sa National Government.

05:41:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005079

Meron po bang

05:41:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005080

drone defenses

05:41:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005081

ang SBMA?

05:41:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005082

Kaya pong

05:41:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005083

protektahan sa drone?

05:41:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005084

Pag inatake ng drone,

05:41:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005085

may depensa po?

05:41:45Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005086

Ang SBMA po, Madam Speaker,

05:41:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005087

wala.

05:41:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005088

Pero,

05:41:48Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005089

nag-coordinate po yung SBMA

05:41:50Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005090

with the Philippine Navy.

05:41:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005091

Philippine Navy ang merong drone.

05:41:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005092

E, anti-missile defense,

05:41:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005093

meron po ba kaya na available

05:41:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005094

ang

05:41:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005095

ang

05:42:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005096

SBMA?

05:42:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005097

Para protektahan po yung fuel dito.

05:42:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005098

E, pagka pinasabog yan,

05:42:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005099

wala na tayong

05:42:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005100

reserbang langis.

05:42:11Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005101

Ang SBMA po ay wala,

05:42:13Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005102

but ang Philippine Navy po ay meron.

05:42:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005103

Meron ang Philippine Navy.

05:42:18Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005104

Meron po.

05:42:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005105

Meron ba talaga?

05:42:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005106

Do we have?

05:42:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005107

Do we have such defenses?

05:42:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005108

Pinag-iisipan ba

05:42:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005109

ng SBMA

05:42:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005110

ang senaryo na ito?

05:42:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005112

Pinag-iisipan po ba

05:42:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005113

ng SBMA.

05:42:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005114

In other words, ano po, kung sakali,

05:42:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005115

you know, scenario building,

05:42:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005116

kung sakali, magkaroon

05:42:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005117

nga ng gera between US

05:43:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005118

and China,

05:43:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005119

the US government itself

05:43:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005120

is planning

05:43:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005121

for

05:43:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005122

a war

05:43:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005123

with China in 2027.

05:43:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005124

Yun po ang nasa mga national security

05:43:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005125

documents ng US. Sabi nila, by

05:43:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005126

2027, ay

05:43:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005127

posibleng

05:43:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005128

militarily ay

05:43:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005129

isisikapin ang China

05:43:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005130

na ma-integrate na

05:43:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005131

ang Taiwan.

05:43:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005132

So, yung so-called

05:43:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005133

Taiwan contingency. So, sa ganung

05:43:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005134

scenario,

05:43:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005135

2027 po ang kanilang sinasabi,

05:43:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005136

sa ganung scenario,

05:43:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005137

at kung sakaling mawasak

05:43:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005138

po ang mga pasilidad

05:43:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005139

na ginagamit ng US sa

05:43:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005140

Subic, yung

05:43:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005141

fuel depot,

05:43:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005142

yung mga dry dock,

05:43:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005143

yung

05:43:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005144

ship building facility,

05:43:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005145

yung mga possibly, kung may mga

05:43:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005146

data centers, yung mga warehouse,

05:44:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005147

and so on,

05:44:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005148

ano pong magiging

05:44:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005149

epekto nun?

05:44:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005150

Ano kaya magiging epekto nun sa

05:44:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005151

SBMA at sa larger economy?

05:44:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005152

Well, yung kita

05:44:17Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005153

po ng SBMA, definitely

05:44:19Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005154

bababa po yun kung nangyari po yun.

05:44:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005155

So, in turn, may negative

05:44:23Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005156

effect po yun sa...

05:44:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005157

It would have a major effect, katulad nung sinabi

05:44:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005158

niyo kanina, at least 50 billion

05:44:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005159

a year, ang contribution sa

05:44:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005160

ekonomiya.

05:44:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005161

Magkano po ang kailangan para ma

05:44:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005162

restore,

05:44:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005163

ma-rehabilitate kung sakaling ma-damage

05:44:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005164

ang mga pasilidad na to?

05:44:42Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005165

With the indulgence of our

05:44:43Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005166

distinguished colleague, please wrap up.

05:44:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005167

Yes, Madam Speaker, I still

05:44:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005168

have time.

05:44:49Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005169

Well, we have to quantify that

05:44:51Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005170

given na may

05:44:52Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005171

rebuilding of facilities

05:44:56Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005172

and what not, but definitely

05:44:57Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005173

a big...

05:44:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005174

It would be a big cost.

05:45:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005175

So, definitely, dapat pag-isipan kung paano didipensahan nito. Tama po ba?

05:45:07Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005176

Yes, Madam Speaker.

05:45:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005177

At sa ngayon, meron na po bang plano ang SBMA? Kaugnay niyan? Paano didipensahan ang mga ito?

05:45:22Source

Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

asr-005178

Well, in terms of defense strategy po, the SBMA defers to the Department of National Defense.

05:45:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005179

Well, Madam Speaker, siguro yun lang po ang pinakapunto natin dito.

05:45:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005180

Ang SBMA, ang BCDA, at ang Malacanang mismo ay talagang pinipresenta ang sarili dito sa Paxilica Initiative.

05:45:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005181

Kanina narinig natin sa BCDA, nag-offer na, dalawang taon libre, walang renta sa lupa, 1,600 hectares.

05:45:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005182

Tinanggap na ng US.

05:45:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005183

Samantalang wala pa namang anumang konkretong commitment ng US.

05:46:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005184

Di ba?

05:46:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005185

We accept. Pero kami, wala. Nothing. Wala naman. Puro laway pa lang.

05:46:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005186

So, ganun po ka-atat na atat.

05:46:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005187

Ang ating, ang administrasyong ito, at ang SBMA, aminado sila na napakalaki ng presensya ng US military

05:46:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005188

sa napakahalagang

05:46:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005189

economic infrastructure na ito.

05:46:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005190

At ang sinasabi po natin, hindi na po hypothetical.

05:46:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005191

Kung sakaling magkaroon ng gera sa pagitan ng US at China, at ito ang pinag-ahandaan ng US,

05:46:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005192

kaya nga sila nagpapalaki ng presensya dyan sa Subic,

05:46:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005193

ay may epekto po yan sa SBMA.

05:46:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005195

No?

05:46:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005196

Kayo po ang, ay mawawasak.

05:46:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005197

Hindi na po hypothetical yun dahil ganun ang nangyari sa mga bansa sa Gulf.

05:47:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005198

No?

05:47:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005199

In the so-called Gulf states.

05:47:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005200

Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, and so on.

05:47:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005201

No?

05:47:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005202

Ang mga yun may sariling kakayahan na depensa ng sarili and yet di kinaya.

05:47:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005203

Nawasak.

05:47:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005204

Di ba?

05:47:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005205

Katulad nung nakita natin kanina.

05:47:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005206

Paano pa kaya ang Pilipinas?

05:47:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005207

So, I understand.

05:47:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005208

I understand this is a policy question that goes beyond the SBMA.

05:47:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005209

National issue na po ito.

05:47:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005210

Pero ang punto po natin ay tumataya ang Marcos Jr. Administration sa Paxilica na ito.

05:47:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005211

Sabi, the whole Luzon Economic Corridor.

05:47:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005212

So, not just Subic, but also Clark, pati yung sa Batangas, at iba pa na involved sa corridor na yan.

05:47:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005213

Bataan.

05:47:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005214

Nakikita ko ang kasamahan natin from Bataan.

05:47:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005215

Damay po kayo dyan.

05:48:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005216

Damay tayong lahat dyan.

05:48:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005217

And if ever matuloy yung gera na pinag-aandaan ng US laban sa China,

05:48:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005218

ang nakataya po ay ang malaking bahagi ng ating ekonomiya.

05:48:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005219

So, kung sakaling mangyari yung nangyari sa Gulf states,

05:48:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005220

ay babalik po tayo sa parang, in effect, parang pinatubo.

05:48:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005221

Kung ano yung nangyari sa Subic at Clark nung panahon ng pinatubo.

05:48:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005222

O, ganun na po.

05:48:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005223

Sagutin ko na sa inyo, anong mangyari dyan?

05:48:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005224

Parang pinatubo.

05:48:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005225

So, that would set us back by practically two generations.

05:48:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005226

Kung sakaling mangyari po yun.

05:48:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005227

So, the point here, Madam Speaker, is really to question,

05:48:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005228

the wisdom of this administration in betting on the so-called Pax Silitka

05:49:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005229

na ang bantapo ay sa pinaka-siguridad ng buhay ng mga Pilipino

05:49:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005230

at sa ekonomiya mismo at pag-unlad ng Pilipinas.

05:49:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005231

Nang walang anumang pag-iisip at pag-aanda para sa depensa.

05:49:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005232

Di ba?

05:49:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005233

Kaya po, with that, Madam Speaker, tatapusin ko na po ang aking interpellation.

05:49:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005234

Maraming salamat po.

05:49:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005235

No to Pax Silica

05:49:34Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005236

Do we hear the motion to terminate?

05:49:39Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-005237

Madam Speaker, on the part of the minority.

05:49:43Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005238

The Honorable Tino, please proceed.

05:49:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005239

Ah, yes. Okay.

05:49:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005240

Madam Speaker, there being no other member of the minority who wishes to interpolate,

05:49:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005241

I move to terminate the period of interpolation and debate on the proposed budget of the SBMA.

05:50:04Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005242

Majority Leader.

05:50:06Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-005243

Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate

05:50:12Source

Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan

asr-005244

the period of interpolation on the proposed budget of SPMA.

05:50:17Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005245

There's a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority.

05:50:24Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005246

Do we hear any objections?

05:50:26Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005248

Hearing none, the period of interpellation on the proposed budget of SPMA is hereby terminated.

05:50:32Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005249

Majority Leader.

05:50:38Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-005250

Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Science and Technology.

05:50:44Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005251

Including its attached agencies.

05:50:46Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005252

There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Science and Technology,

05:50:51Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005253

including its attached agencies.

05:50:53Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005254

And for this purpose,

05:50:54Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005255

the Honorable Vice Chair, Loreto Amante, is hereby recognized to sponsor said agency.

05:51:07Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005256

Majority Leader.

05:51:10Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-005257

Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the first interpellator.

05:51:15Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005258

Tinio.

05:51:17Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-005259

The Congressman Tino of the Act Teachers Party.

05:51:20Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005260

The Honorable Antonio Tino.

05:51:25Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005261

Is recognized for his interpolation.

05:51:39Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005262

The Honorable Tino is recognized for his interpellation.

05:51:44Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005263

Baka hindi na magtatal.

05:51:48Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005263-split-2

Ito, boss.

05:52:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005264

Madam Chair, kung ready na po yung presentation.

05:52:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005265

The sponsor is ready?

05:52:11Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005266

Yes, I'm ready, Madam Chair.

05:52:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005267

Para makapag-proceed na tayo.

05:52:17Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005268

I'm ready, Madam Speaker.

05:52:19Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005269

The technical person is directed to play the slides.

05:52:24Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005270

The presentation of the Hon. Tino.

05:52:27Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005271

But prior to that, the Hon. Tino can...

05:52:29Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005272

There it is.

05:52:31Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005273

Okay.

05:52:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005274

Well, ang main question po natin sa budget ng DOST.

05:52:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005275

Una po, ito po yung budget ng DOST over a 10-year period,

05:52:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005276

including the proposed budget for 2027.

05:52:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005277

Napansin po natin,

05:52:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005278

ang tinakamalaking bahagi ng budget.

05:52:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005279

So, for example,

05:52:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005280

the current proposed budget...

05:53:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005281

Okay, the proposed budget for 2027 of the DOST is 6.868 Trillion Pesos.

05:53:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005282

Ang napansin lang po natin, of that,

05:53:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005283

if you look at the breakdown of that budget,

05:53:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005284

most of it is in the form of

05:53:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005285

financial assistance and subsidy.

05:53:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005286

Of the 6.8 billion,

05:54:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005287

4.687 billion is listed under financial assistance or subsidy.

05:54:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005288

So, yung chart po na yan,

05:54:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005289

pinapakita yung paglaki

05:54:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005290

ng DOST.

05:54:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005291

Ang budget, pero ang kalakhang bahagi talaga,

05:54:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005292

the blue portion,

05:54:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005293

is financial assistance and subsidy.

05:54:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005294

Then, I look at the special provisions.

05:54:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005295

Usually, pagka may financial assistance and subsidy,

05:54:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005296

there should be a special provision

05:54:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005297

that lays down the parameters

05:54:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005298

on the use of financial assistance and subsidy.

05:54:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005299

Pero wala po tayong nakikita.

05:54:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005300

Sa special provisions ng DOST budget ay,

05:54:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005301

well, there is mention of a priority research program

05:55:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005302

and then reporting and posting requirements.

05:55:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005303

So, pwede lang po ba malinaw,

05:55:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005304

bakit po yung napakalaking bahagi ng inyong budget

05:55:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005305

over, let's say, 80% of your budget,

05:55:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005306

from eyeballing the charts,

05:55:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005307

falls under financial assistance slash subsidy.

05:55:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005308

Parang ang dating, actually, usually,

05:55:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005309

yan yung terminong ginagamit sa ayuda.

05:55:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005310

Di ba?

05:55:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005311

Ang mga scholarship.

05:55:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005312

Bakit po ganun?

05:55:33Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005313

Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

05:55:36Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005314

grants and aids po yan.

05:55:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005315

Sorry?

05:55:38Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005316

Grants and aids.

05:55:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005317

Ah, yun. Grants and aids.

05:55:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005318

Okay.

05:55:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005319

So, all of the,

05:55:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005320

grants and aids are under the Office of the Secretary.

05:55:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005321

Highly centralized po yung budget.

05:55:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005322

So, kaya po tinatawag na financial subsidy ay dahil sa,

05:56:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005323

ito ay mga grants and aids.

05:56:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005324

So, ano po mga example ng grants and aids na ito?

05:56:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005325

At pwede po bang,

05:56:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005326

yan lang, mabigyan tayo ng breakdown ng grants and aids?

05:56:13Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005327

Ah, yes.

05:56:15Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005328

Madam Speaker,

05:56:16Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005329

Madam Speaker,

05:56:17Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005330

ah, distinguished colleague,

05:56:19Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005331

ah,

05:56:20Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005332

first,

05:56:21Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005333

ah, napupunta po ito sa research and development,

05:56:25Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005334

or R&D,

05:56:27Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005335

ah,

05:56:29Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005336

CEST,

05:56:31Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005337

ah, setup,

05:56:33Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005338

at ah, smart and sustainable community,

05:56:36Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005339

and ah, last is, ah, tax transfer.

05:56:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005340

Okay.

05:56:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005341

Ah,

05:56:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005342

sige, baka pwede po magma,

05:56:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005343

makapag-provide na lang ng, ah, breakdown nitong mga grants and aids

05:56:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005344

for 2026 and the proposed grants and aid,

05:56:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005345

grants and aid for 2027.

05:56:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005346

Okay po ba yun?

05:57:00Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005347

Yes, of course, ah.

05:57:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005348

Okay, thank you po.

05:57:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005349

Singis gulit.

05:57:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005350

Ah, ngayon, during the budget briefings, ah,

05:57:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005351

isa po sa mga nakita natin at medyo nagtanong tayo ng konti ay tungkol sa, ah, plano ng DOL, ah,

05:57:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005352

plano ng DOST para sa AI.

05:57:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005353

Diba?

05:57:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005354

And the concept of, ah, AI sovereignty.

05:57:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005355

Tama po ba?

05:57:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005356

Okay.

05:57:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005357

Pwede po bang mapaliwanag ng, ah, sponsor,

05:57:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005358

ano yung plano ng DOST kaugnay dito sa development ng AI sovereignty

05:57:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005359

at magkano po yung, ah, ginamit na, nagastos na, at gagastusin in the proposed budget

05:57:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005360

to develop AI sovereignty?

05:57:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005361

Ano ba tong AI sovereignty in the first place?

05:58:05Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005364

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

05:58:14Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005365

ang isa po sa mga dine-develop po ng DOST ngayon ay yung Research Data Center.

05:58:20Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005366

And also data digital transformation to fuel AI.

05:58:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005367

Okay. Pero tama po. So, Research in AI.

05:58:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005368

Pero yung konsepto nga.

05:58:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005369

Ang DOST kaugnay ng AI sovereignty. Parang meron pong ginagawa ang DOST kaugnay niyan.

05:58:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005370

Ano po ba yun? What does that mean? AI sovereignty at anong ginagawa ng DOST tungo rito?

05:59:12Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005371

Thank you.

05:59:15Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005372

Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the DOST-ASDI,

05:59:20Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005373

currently has the facilities for Research Data Center, Cloud Computing, and HPC.

05:59:27Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005374

At an average of operational utilization at 33%, consisting of 38 storage servers, 22 compute servers,

05:59:39Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005375

and 10 GPU servers to ensure operational and services that AI infrastructure is currently being set up in a data center.

05:59:49Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005376

Within Metro Manila, within 24 H200 GPUs at 1248 CPU cores.

06:00:00Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005377

11,264 gigabytes RAM,

06:00:04Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005378

and 1,574 terabytes storage.

06:00:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005379

Okay. Well, thank you for that detailed answer.

06:00:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005380

Kung pwede po, mahingi ko yung return para mabalikan natin. Maraming information po yung binibigay nyo.

06:00:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005381

So, sa isensya ang sinasabi nyo po, dito sa Metro Manila, meti na yung data center.

06:00:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005382

AI data center ang DOST na merong sariling kapasidad.

06:00:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005383

Yung binanggit nyo, how many GPUs yung nandyan, yung capacity, yung storage, and so on and so forth. Tama po?

06:00:44Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005384

Tama po kayo, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

06:00:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005385

Okay. Ang ibig po sabihin yan, yung AI dito ay nasa Pilipinas.

06:00:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005386

No? Kasi yung siguro, alam natin, malaganap na ang paggamit ng AI, pero yung karaniwang ginagamit ng mga Pilipino ay nakabase sa ibang bansa yan at pag-aari ng ibang bansa, mainly US, also China.

06:01:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005387

Diba? For example, kung gumagamit ng chat GPT, ang mga server, mga computer, mga data center na nagpapatakbo nun ay nasa labas ng Pilipinas, pag-aari ng US.

06:01:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005388

Ng mga kumpanya ng US, pinagkikitaan nila.

06:01:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005389

Ganun po, no?

06:01:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005390

So, kaya nga po, mahalaga yung ginagawa ng DOST dahil sinasabi ng marami, magiging importanteng teknolohiya ang AI, importante na may sarili tayong kapasidad sa loob ng bansa para sa AI.

06:01:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005391

At yung binanggit na data center na pinagkakitaan.

06:01:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005392

Nagpapatakbo ngayon ng DOST ay bahagi nun, diba?

06:01:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005393

Para kahit maputulan tayo ng access sa AI ng US, meron tayo dito.

06:02:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005394

Tama? Tama po ba? Ganun po ba?

06:02:09Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005395

Yes.

06:02:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005396

Okay.

06:02:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005397

Madam Speaker.

06:02:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005398

Alright. Okay.

06:02:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005399

So, makano yung budget na for 2026 na inilaan dyan at para sa 2027?

06:02:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005400

Magkano ang hinihingi ninyo?

06:02:25Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005401

For 2027, 300...

06:02:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005402

2026 po muna. 2026.

06:02:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005403

Makano na po yung binadjet dyan? Kung meron man. 2026 and then 2027.

06:02:37Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005404

200 million, Madam Speaker, this year.

06:02:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005405

This year, 200 million?

06:02:43Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005406

Correct.

06:02:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005407

And for next year?

06:02:46Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005408

345 million.

06:02:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005409

345 million as investment in our own...

06:02:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005410

AI capacity, kumbaga. Parang ganun.

06:02:56Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005411

Yes.

06:02:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005412

Tapos yung mga AI model na ginagamit, ano yun? Open source po ba yan? Paano yan?

06:03:04Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005413

Open source, Madam Speaker.

06:03:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005414

Open source model. Siyempre, hindi pwedeng gamitin natin yung closed source models, kaya nga closed source eh.

06:03:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005415

Commercially, privately owned ng open AI, anthropic, et cetera.

06:03:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005416

Okay.

06:03:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005417

Ano po? If I may ask, ano yung mga...

06:03:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005418

Open source models na pinagbabataya ng inyong...

06:03:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005419

ng inyong dine-develop na AI?

06:03:39Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005420

Mga local large language, Madam Speaker.

06:03:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005421

Yes, local large language models, pero these large language models usually may mga...

06:03:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005422

may mga kilala eh, na ginagamit.

06:03:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005423

So, for example...

06:03:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005424

Lama. Iyan yung ginawa ng Meta, pero open source.

06:03:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005425

Ngayon, actually, ang mga pinaka-mahalagang open source models are the ones developed by Chinese companies, no?

06:04:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005426

Like Quen, Kimi, iyan yung mga ilang open source models.

06:04:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005427

Ano po ang ginagamit ng...

06:04:16Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005428

Madam Speaker, we are using Opus.

06:04:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005429

Sorry?

06:04:20Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005430

Opus.

06:04:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005431

Pakiulit po.

06:04:24Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005432

Opus.

06:04:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005433

Opus.

06:04:26Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005434

Yes.

06:04:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005435

Opus.

06:04:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005436

Opus, as far as I know, is proprietary.

06:04:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005437

Claude, hindi po ba? Anthropic po yun, ha?

06:04:46Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005438

Is it okay, Madam Speaker, na we can send the details to the Office of...

06:04:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005439

O, sige. Detail na lang po. O, sige. Importante po. Mahalaga.

06:04:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005440

Magkaroon tayo ng...

06:04:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005441

I mean, at least, sige. Huwag na po sa plenaryo.

06:04:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005442

Ibigay na lang po yung mas technical na detalye kaugnay nito.

06:05:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005443

Okay.

06:05:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005444

So, at least, meron pong initiative and effort ng DOST to develop...

06:05:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005445

Let's call it local AI.

06:05:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005446

Diba?

06:05:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005447

So, ibig sabihin nun, kailangan may sarili kang data center

06:05:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005448

at meron kang sariling large language.

06:05:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005449

Large language models na gagamitin.

06:05:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005450

Okay.

06:05:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005451

Now, let me go to Paxilica again.

06:05:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005452

Alam natin, as far as we know, hindi directly involved ang DOST dyan.

06:05:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005453

Tama po ba?

06:05:36Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005454

Tama po, Madam Speaker.

06:05:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005455

However, Paxilica, as an initiative, is involved with AI, among others.

06:05:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005456

No?

06:05:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005457

No?

06:05:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005458

Yung AI, advanced AI manufacturing.

06:05:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005459

And securing the critical mineral supply chain in order to develop AI.

06:06:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005460

Ibig nila sabihin, yung mga critical minerals to develop the semiconductors,

06:06:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005461

the advanced GPUs, to be able to run, to develop and run

06:06:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005462

the most advanced artificial intelligence models.

06:06:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005463

Models.

06:06:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005464

Okay.

06:06:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005465

Dahil ang paniniwala ng US, kung sino ang may pinaka-advancing AI,

06:06:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005466

siya ay magkakaroon ng bentahe economically and militarily.

06:06:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005467

So, kaya nagtutunggalian po ang US at China dito.

06:06:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005468

At ang ginagawa ng US ay pinagkakaitila sa China yung mga pinaka-advanced na AI chips.

06:06:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005469

Diba?

06:06:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005470

So, these are the export controls imposed by the US on advanced GPUs to China.

06:07:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005471

Ang ganti naman ng China ay pinagkakait nila sa US yung rare earth minerals na kailangan para ma-produce yun.

06:07:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005472

So, nandyan po tayo ngayon.

06:07:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005473

Kaya may Paxilica.

06:07:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005474

Okay.

06:07:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005475

Why do I mention Paxilica?

06:07:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005476

Because I would like to place on the record,

06:07:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005477

ah,

06:07:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005478

a recent,

06:07:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005479

a fairly recent speech of the US Undersecretary of State for Economic Affairs,

06:07:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005480

Jacob Helberg.

06:07:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005481

Ayan, ilang beses siya nababanggit kanina pa,

06:07:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005482

dahil siya yung pangunahing arkitekto ng Paxilica,

06:07:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005483

at siya mismo yung pumunta dito sa Pilipinas para nga ma-inaugurate yung Paxilica sa New Clark City,

06:07:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005484

siya yung nakapirma at counterpart ni BCDA President Bingkang,

06:07:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005485

sila yung nagpipirmahan.

06:07:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005486

Ito, Jacob Helberg.

06:07:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005487

Okay, what does he have to say particularly about AI sovereignty or digital sovereignty?

06:08:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005488

Meron po siyang speech published by the US State Department available on their website.

06:08:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005489

Hindi ko alam kung may visual tayo dyan, pero it's not really necessary, I can just read it.

06:08:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005490

This is dated June 25, 2020.

06:08:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005491

The title of this speech is the Digital Sovereignty Trap.

06:08:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005492

Ayan.

06:08:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005493

Ganito po, let me read into the record the words of the main architect of Paxilica.

06:08:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005494

Para alam po ng lahat ano ba ang pag-iisip talaga nung nagtutulak ng Paxilica na niyayakap ng Marcos Jr. Administration.

06:08:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005495

These days,

06:08:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005496

few words flatter a government like digital sovereignty.

06:08:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005497

It carries the music of independence, the dignity of self-rule,

06:09:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005498

the promise that the nation holds its own destiny in its hands.

06:09:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005499

So it is no surprise that the expression has been pressed into the service of a fashionable, fast-spreading policy debate.

06:09:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005500

No?

06:09:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005501

It is a growing number of governments,

06:09:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005502

persuaded that independence requires duplication,

06:09:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005503

a drafting national AI strategies to match.

06:09:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005504

Each resolved to rebuild inside its own borders a stack that already exists somewhere else.

06:09:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005505

Yun po ang ginagawa ng DOST.

06:09:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005506

They are building a domestic AI stack.

06:09:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005507

Di ba?

06:09:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005508

Yung mga data center,

06:09:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005509

yung equipment,

06:09:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005510

yung hardware,

06:09:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005511

and also the software,

06:09:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005512

the large language models,

06:09:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005513

open source.

06:09:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005514

Ito yung tinutukoy ni Helberg.

06:09:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005515

O.

06:09:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005516

Kayong mga ibang bansa,

06:09:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005517

you are scrambling to develop your own,

06:10:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005518

within your own borders,

06:10:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005519

your own AI stack.

06:10:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005520

What does he have to say about it?

06:10:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005521

Quote,

06:10:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005522

It is a seductive vision.

06:10:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005523

It is a seductive vision.

06:10:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005524

It is also backward and counterproductive.

06:10:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005525

Yun ang sabi ni Helberg.

06:10:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005526

So,

06:10:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005527

picture this conference.

06:10:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005528

Sabi niya,

06:10:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005529

there is always a conference

06:10:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005530

where 40 governments

06:10:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005531

rise in turn

06:10:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005532

to pledge a sovereign cloud,

06:10:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005533

a sovereign model,

06:10:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005534

a national champion of their very own.

06:10:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005535

Ibig sabihin,

06:10:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005536

eh, mga iba't ibang bansa,

06:10:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005537

gusto nila magkaroon ng sarili nilang AI.

06:10:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005538

No?

06:10:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005539

They will applaud one another's independence.

06:10:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005540

Then they will go home

06:10:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005541

and pour billions

06:10:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005542

into companies built to do

06:10:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005543

precisely what 39 others are doing

06:10:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005544

in markets too small

06:10:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005545

to sustain even one of them.

06:11:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005546

Chasing margins that thin asymptotically toward nothing

06:11:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005547

the moment the next champion is announced.

06:11:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005548

They will have achieved not so-called

06:11:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005549

digital sovereignty

06:11:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005550

but a kind of synchronized mediocrity

06:11:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005551

as planet of sub-scale clones

06:11:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005552

each heroically reconstructing last year's breakthrough

06:11:26Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005553

while the breakthrough itself moves on without them.

06:11:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005554

So, pinagtatawanan po ni Helberg

06:11:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005555

yung ginagawa ng DOST.

06:11:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005556

Sabi niya,

06:11:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005557

hibang kayo,

06:11:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005558

nag-i-invest kayo.

06:11:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005559

In this case, ang hinihingi niyo po,

06:11:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005560

magkano nga po ulit yung hinihingi niyo?

06:11:41Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005561

Ah,

06:11:42Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005562

300 million.

06:11:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005563

300 million.

06:11:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005564

This year, 600.

06:11:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005565

No, 300.

06:11:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005566

Pinagtatawanan ni Helberg.

06:11:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005567

Sabi niya,

06:11:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005568

mga hibang kayo,

06:11:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005569

gumagawa kayo ng sarili nyong AI.

06:11:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005570

No?

06:11:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005571

Ah,

06:11:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005572

what does he have to say?

06:11:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005573

Sabi niya rito,

06:11:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005574

he's laughing at digital sovereignty

06:11:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005575

and then he says,

06:12:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005576

while others rebuild the present,

06:12:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005577

American firms

06:12:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005578

will be inventing the future.

06:12:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005579

Oh.

06:12:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005580

They will not be defending yesterday's platform.

06:12:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005581

They will be shipping tomorrow's.

06:12:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005582

Ah,

06:12:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005583

the products that do not yet exist

06:12:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005584

that no committee in Geneva,

06:12:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005585

UN,

06:12:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005586

has thought to subsidize

06:12:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005587

that will define the coming decade

06:12:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005588

before the clones have finished cloning

06:12:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005589

the last one.

06:12:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005590

And because they will stand alone at the frontier,

06:12:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005591

they will keep what the frontier pays.

06:12:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005592

The fat margins,

06:12:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005593

the soaring valuations,

06:12:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005594

the commanding heights of the global economy.

06:12:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005595

That is not an accident of American luck.

06:12:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005596

It is the iron arithmetic of zero to one.

06:12:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005597

This is the distinction the sovereignty evangelists miss

06:12:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005598

and it is the whole game.

06:12:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005599

Okay.

06:12:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005600

This is the logic behind Pax Silica.

06:12:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005601

Iyon ang sinasabi niya.

06:13:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005602

Basically ang sinasabi po,

06:13:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005603

oh mga baliw kayo,

06:13:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005604

kayong mga maliliit na bansa,

06:13:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005605

naga-ambisyon kayo

06:13:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005606

na meron din kayong sariling AI.

06:13:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005607

No?

06:13:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005608

Ang pinakabanting AI ay yung sa amin.

06:13:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005609

Yung pag-aari ng mga Amerikano.

06:13:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005610

Kaya huwag na kayong mag-aksaya ng pera at panahon nyo.

06:13:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005611

Sumama na kayo sa Pax Silica.

06:13:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005612

At bayaran nyo.

06:13:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005613

Bilhin nyo ang AI ng mga kumpanyang Amerikano.

06:13:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005614

Iyon po ang sinasabi ni Helberg.

06:13:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005615

No?

06:13:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005616

Ah.

06:13:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005617

So,

06:13:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005618

the champions of digital sovereignty believe they are arming their nations for the future.

06:13:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005619

In truth,

06:13:47Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005620

they are marching them in perfect and well-funded formation into the past.

06:13:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005621

No?

06:13:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005622

So,

06:13:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005623

okay.

06:13:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005624

Tatapusin ko na po.

06:13:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005625

Siguro nakuha nyo na yung point.

06:14:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005626

Ah.

06:14:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005627

Iyon po ang esensya at pilosopiya ng Pax Silica

06:14:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005628

galing mismo sa pangunahing arkitekto nito.

06:14:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005629

Jacob Helberg.

06:14:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005630

Diba?

06:14:13Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005631

So, sabi ko nga.

06:14:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005632

Pinagtatawa na po ang DOST.

06:14:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005633

At ang mga inisiyatiba ng ibang mga bansa.

06:14:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005634

Ay, ba't kayo nag-aaksaya ng pera nyo sa sarili nyong AI?

06:14:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005635

Ang pinakabanting AI ang AI ng mga Amerikano.

06:14:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005636

Upahan nyo nila.

06:14:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005637

Just buy from us, rent from us.

06:14:33Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005638

At ganun nga po ang nangyayari.

06:14:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005639

For the most part,

06:14:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005640

ah,

06:14:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005641

maybe the DOST can confirm,

06:14:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005642

yung mga government agencies po natin,

06:14:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005643

increasingly, lumalaking bahagi ng budget

06:14:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005644

is ah,

06:14:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005645

AI budget.

06:14:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005646

Budget for AI.

06:14:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005647

Tama po ba?

06:14:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005648

No?

06:14:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005649

Magkano na po ang nakalaan para sa pagbili ng

06:15:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005650

mga subscriptions,

06:15:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005651

AI subscriptions to

06:15:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005652

US providers.

06:15:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005653

Does the DOST have information on that?

06:15:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005654

Meron po ba?

06:15:14Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005655

Madam Speaker,

06:15:16Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005656

distinguished colleagues,

06:15:17Source

Rep. Amben S. Amante

asr-005657

wala po.

06:15:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005658

Wala po, wala po.

06:15:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005659

O siguro sa DICT na lang yun.

06:15:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005660

Okay.

06:15:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005661

Daan-daang bilyon na po

06:15:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005662

ang nakalaan sa

06:15:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005663

AI subscription services

06:15:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005664

primarily to US

06:15:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005665

providers.

06:15:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005666

Sa kaya po, ako,

06:15:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005667

sinusuportahan ko

06:15:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005668

ang ginagawa

06:15:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005669

ng DOST

06:15:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005670

dahil napakahalaga.

06:15:41Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005671

At walang hiya po

06:15:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005672

ang sinasabi nitong Helberg

06:15:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005673

na huwag nyo nang,

06:15:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005674

huwag na kayong mag-aksaya

06:15:50Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005675

sa pag-invest

06:15:52Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005676

sa sarili nyong AI.

06:15:54Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005677

Gamitin na lang natin

06:15:56Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005678

yung sa mga Amerikano,

06:15:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005679

bayaran nyo sila.

06:15:58Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005680

Okay.

06:15:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005681

Kaya po,

06:16:00Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005682

in the end,

06:16:01Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005683

Madam Speaker,

06:16:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005684

we support

06:16:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005685

the investment

06:16:05Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005686

in

06:16:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005687

developing

06:16:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005688

the domestic

06:16:08Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005689

AI

06:16:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005690

stack.

06:16:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005691

No?

06:16:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005692

Hardware and software,

06:16:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005693

infrastructure

06:16:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005694

and

06:16:16Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005695

software

06:16:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005696

at,

06:16:20Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005697

and we reject

06:16:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005698

the

06:16:23Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005699

very

06:16:24Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005700

logic

06:16:27Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005701

of Paxilic.

06:16:28Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005702

Kaya kinukundi na po natin

06:16:29Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005703

ang administrasyong ito

06:16:30Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005704

dahil sinasalaksak

06:16:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005705

sa sambayan ng Pilipino

06:16:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005706

ang isang kasunduan

06:16:37Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005707

na yung pangunahing

06:16:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005708

nagtutulak mismo nito

06:16:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005709

ay pinagtatawanan

06:16:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005710

ang pagsisikap

06:16:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005711

na mag-develop

06:16:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005712

ng sariling

06:16:49Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005713

abanteng teknolohiya

06:16:51Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005714

ng bansang tulad ng

06:16:53Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005715

Pilipinas.

06:16:55Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005716

Paxilica will only mean

06:16:57Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005717

further dependency

06:16:59Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005718

on the advanced technology

06:17:02Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005719

of the US

06:17:03Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005720

sa halip na

06:17:04Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005721

yung kasalukuyang

06:17:06Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005722

ginagawa ngayon

06:17:07Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005723

kahit papano

06:17:09Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005724

ng DOST

06:17:10Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005725

on a small scale

06:17:11Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005726

to develop

06:17:12Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005727

domestic

06:17:14Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005728

AI

06:17:15Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005729

or sovereign AI.

06:17:17Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005730

So,

06:17:18Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005731

hanggang doon na lamang po,

06:17:19Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005732

Madam Speaker.

06:17:21Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005733

Again,

06:17:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005734

ibasura

06:17:22Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005735

ang Paxilica na yan.

06:17:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005736

Maraming salamat,

06:17:25Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005737

Madam Speaker.

06:17:27Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005738

May we hear

06:17:29Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005739

the necessary motion

06:17:30Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005740

from the Honorable

06:17:31Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005741

Yes, Madam Speaker.

06:17:32Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005742

There being no other

06:17:34Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005743

member of

06:17:35Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005744

the minority

06:17:36Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005745

that wishes to

06:17:38Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005746

interpellate,

06:17:39Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005747

I therefore move

06:17:40Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005748

to terminate

06:17:42Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005749

the period

06:17:43Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005750

of interpellation

06:17:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005751

and debate

06:17:44Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005752

on the proposed

06:17:45Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005753

budget

06:17:46Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005754

of the DOST.

06:17:48Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005755

Majority leader

06:17:48Source

Rep. Antonio L. Tinio

asr-005756

Including the attached agencies.

06:17:52Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005757

Madam Speaker,

06:17:53Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005758

on the part of

06:17:53Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005759

the majority,

06:17:54Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005760

we join the minority

06:17:55Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005761

in the motion

06:17:56Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005762

to terminate

06:17:57Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005763

the period

06:17:57Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005764

of interpolations

06:17:58Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005765

and the proposed

06:17:59Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005766

budget of

06:18:00Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005767

Department of Science

06:18:02Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005768

and Technology,

06:18:04Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005769

including its

06:18:04Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005770

attached agencies.

06:18:07Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005771

There's a joint

06:18:08Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005772

motion to terminate

06:18:09Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005773

the period of

06:18:09Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005774

debate and interpellation

06:18:11Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005775

and the proposed

06:18:11Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005776

budget of the

06:18:13Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005777

Department of Science

06:18:14Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005778

and Technology,

06:18:14Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005779

including its

06:18:15Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005780

attached agencies.

06:18:16Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005781

Do I hear an objection?

06:18:18Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005782

Hearing none,

06:18:18Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005783

a joint motion

06:18:19Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005784

is carried.

06:18:21Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005785

The interpellation

06:18:22Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005786

of the proposed

06:18:22Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005787

budget of DOST

06:18:23Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005788

and its attached

06:18:24Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005789

agencies is

06:18:25Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005790

hereby terminated.

06:18:27Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005791

Majority,

06:18:27Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005792

Majority Leader.

06:18:28Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005793

Madam Speaker,

06:18:29Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005794

I move to suspend

06:18:29Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005795

consideration

06:18:31Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005796

House Bill

06:18:32Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005797

number

06:18:33Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005798

10858.

06:18:35Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005799

Any objection?

06:18:36Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005800

Hearing none,

06:18:37Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005801

consideration of

06:18:37Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005802

House Bill

06:18:38Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005803

10858

06:18:39Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005804

is hereby suspended.

06:18:40Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005805

Majority Leader.

06:18:41Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005806

Madam Speaker,

06:18:42Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005807

I move to take up

06:18:43Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005808

additional reference

06:18:44Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005809

of business

06:18:44Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005810

and request

06:18:45Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005811

that the

06:18:46Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005812

Secretary General

06:18:46Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005813

be directed

06:18:47Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005814

to read

06:18:48Source

Rep. Daphne A. Lagon

asr-005815

the resolutions.

06:18:50Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005816

An objection.

06:18:52Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005817

Hearing none,

06:18:52Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005818

the Secretary General

06:18:53Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005819

is hereby directed

06:18:54Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005820

to read the title

06:18:55Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005821

of bills

06:18:55Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005822

and first reading

06:18:56Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005823

as well,

06:18:57Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005824

as resolutions,

06:18:58Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005825

messages,

06:18:59Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005826

communications,

06:19:00Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005827

and committee reports.

06:19:03Source

Secretary-General

asr-005828

Additional

06:19:04Source

Secretary-General

asr-005829

additional reference

06:19:05Source

Secretary-General

asr-005830

of business.

06:19:06Source

Secretary-General

asr-005831

Bills on first reading.

06:19:08Source

Secretary-General

asr-005832

House Bill 11372.

06:19:10Source

Secretary-General

asr-005833

Upgrading the

06:19:11Source

Secretary-General

asr-005834

Johnny Villanueva

06:19:12Source

Secretary-General

asr-005835

General Hospital

06:19:13Source

Secretary-General

asr-005836

in the Bukawi,

06:19:15Source

Secretary-General

asr-005837

Bulacan

06:19:15Source

Secretary-General

asr-005838

into a

06:19:16Source

Secretary-General

asr-005839

Committee on Health.

06:19:18Source

Secretary-General

asr-005840

House Bill 11373

06:19:19Source

Secretary-General

asr-005841

expanding the

06:19:20Source

Secretary-General

asr-005842

lateral entry program

06:19:21Source

Secretary-General

asr-005843

of the PNP

06:19:22Source

Secretary-General

asr-005844

by Representative

06:19:23Source

Secretary-General

asr-005845

Dumogan.

06:19:24Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005846

The Committee on Public

06:19:24Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005847

Order and Safety.

06:19:26Source

Secretary-General

asr-005848

House Bill 11374.

06:19:27Source

Secretary-General

asr-005849

Strengthening the

06:19:28Source

Secretary-General

asr-005850

protection,

06:19:28Source

Secretary-General

asr-005851

conservation,

06:19:29Source

Secretary-General

asr-005852

and sustainable

06:19:30Source

Secretary-General

asr-005853

development of the

06:19:31Source

Secretary-General

asr-005854

Sierra Madre Mountain

06:19:31Source

Secretary-General

asr-005855

Range.

06:19:32Source

Secretary-General

asr-005856

The Committee on Government

06:19:33Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005857

Enterprises and

06:19:34Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005858

Privatization.

06:19:35Source

Secretary-General

asr-005859

House Bill 11375.

06:19:37Source

Secretary-General

asr-005860

Providing for the

06:19:37Source

Secretary-General

asr-005861

Philippine Medical Act

06:19:38Source

Secretary-General

asr-005862

by Representative

06:19:39Source

Secretary-General

asr-005863

Corllantes.

06:19:40Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005864

The Committee on Civil

06:19:41Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005865

Service and Professional

06:19:42Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005866

Regulation.

06:19:42Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005867

The Committee on Health.

06:19:44Source

Secretary-General

asr-005868

House Bill 11376.

06:19:45Source

Secretary-General

asr-005869

Providing for the

06:19:46Source

Secretary-General

asr-005870

perpetual existence

06:19:47Source

Secretary-General

asr-005871

of the Philippine

06:19:48Source

Secretary-General

asr-005872

International Trade

06:19:49Source

Secretary-General

asr-005873

Corporation

06:19:49Source

Secretary-General

asr-005874

by Representative

06:19:50Source

Secretary-General

asr-005875

Corllantes.

06:19:51Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005876

The Committee on Government

06:19:52Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005877

Enterprises and

06:19:53Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005878

Privatization.

06:19:54Source

Secretary-General

asr-005879

House Bill 11377.

06:19:56Source

Secretary-General

asr-005880

Granting senior citizens

06:19:57Source

Secretary-General

asr-005881

a minimum five percent

06:19:58Source

Secretary-General

asr-005882

discount on the first

06:19:59Source

Secretary-General

asr-005883

150 kilowatt hours

06:20:01Source

Secretary-General

asr-005884

of electricity consumption

06:20:03Source

Secretary-General

asr-005885

on the first 50 cubic

06:20:04Source

Secretary-General

asr-005886

meters of water

06:20:05Source

Secretary-General

asr-005887

consumption,

06:20:06Source

Secretary-General

asr-005888

exception for the

06:20:07Source

Secretary-General

asr-005889

value added tax

06:20:08Source

Secretary-General

asr-005890

by Representative

06:20:08Source

Secretary-General

asr-005891

Remuglia.

06:20:08Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005892

The Committee on Senior

06:20:09Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005893

Citizens.

06:20:10Source

Secretary-General

asr-005894

House Bill 11378.

06:20:12Source

Secretary-General

asr-005895

Strengthening ethical

06:20:12Source

Secretary-General

asr-005896

standards in the

06:20:14Source

Secretary-General

asr-005897

public service

06:20:14Source

Secretary-General

asr-005898

by mandating the

06:20:15Source

Secretary-General

asr-005899

Civil Service Commission

06:20:16Source

Secretary-General

asr-005900

and other relevant

06:20:17Source

Secretary-General

asr-005901

agencies to provide

06:20:18Source

Secretary-General

asr-005902

education to government

06:20:20Source

Secretary-General

asr-005903

officials and employees

06:20:21Source

Secretary-General

asr-005904

by Representative

06:20:22Source

Secretary-General

asr-005905

Remuglia.

06:20:23Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005906

The Committee on Civil

06:20:23Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005907

Service and Professional

06:20:24Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005908

Regulation.

06:20:25Source

Secretary-General

asr-005909

House Bill 11379.

06:20:27Source

Secretary-General

asr-005910

Declaring a one-time

06:20:28Source

Secretary-General

asr-005911

amnesty on all

06:20:29Source

Secretary-General

asr-005912

unpaid internal

06:20:30Source

Secretary-General

asr-005913

revenue taxes

06:20:31Source

Secretary-General

asr-005914

imposed by the

06:20:31Source

Secretary-General

asr-005915

national government

06:20:32Source

Secretary-General

asr-005916

for taxable year

06:20:33Source

Secretary-General

asr-005917

2024 and prior years.

06:20:36Source

Secretary-General

asr-005918

Representatives

06:20:37Source

Secretary-General

asr-005919

Tulfo Raffaender

06:20:38Source

Secretary-General

asr-005920

and Tulfo Josidy.

06:20:39Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005921

To the Committee on

06:20:39Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005922

Ways and Means.

06:20:40Source

Secretary-General

asr-005923

House Bill 11381.

06:20:42Source

Secretary-General

asr-005924

Granting hazard pay

06:20:43Source

Secretary-General

asr-005925

to Barangay

06:20:43Source

Secretary-General

asr-005926

and tanod members.

06:20:44Source

Secretary-General

asr-005927

Representative Nisay.

06:20:46Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005928

To the Committee on

06:20:46Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005929

Local Government.

06:20:48Source

Secretary-General

asr-005930

House Bill 11382.

06:20:49Source

Secretary-General

asr-005931

Granting hazard pay

06:20:50Source

Secretary-General

asr-005932

to workers in critical

06:20:51Source

Secretary-General

asr-005933

industries,

06:20:52Source

Secretary-General

asr-005934

during a state of

06:20:53Source

Secretary-General

asr-005935

calamity or emergency

06:20:54Source

Secretary-General

asr-005936

or public health

06:20:55Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005937

emergency.

06:20:55Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005938

To the Committee on

06:20:56Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005939

Labor and Employment.

06:20:57Source

Secretary-General

asr-005940

House Bill 11383.

06:20:58Source

Secretary-General

asr-005941

Providing for mandatory

06:20:59Source

Secretary-General

asr-005942

insurance coverage,

06:21:01Source

Secretary-General

asr-005943

benefits and hazard

06:21:01Source

Secretary-General

asr-005944

pay for journalists,

06:21:02Source

Secretary-General

asr-005945

employees of [unclear]

06:21:03Source

Secretary-General

asr-005946

entities or [unclear]

06:21:05Source

Secretary-General

asr-005947

assignments.

06:21:05Source

Secretary-General

asr-005948

To the Committee on

06:21:06Source

Secretary-General

asr-005949

Labor and Employment.

06:21:08Source

Secretary-General

asr-005950

House Bill 11384.

06:21:09Source

Secretary-General

asr-005951

Creating a tripartite

06:21:10Source

Secretary-General

asr-005952

concept to address

06:21:11Source

Secretary-General

asr-005953

unemployment,

06:21:12Source

Secretary-General

asr-005954

underemployment

06:21:13Source

Secretary-General

asr-005955

and the job skills

06:21:14Source

Secretary-General

asr-005956

mismatch problem

06:21:14Source

Secretary-General

asr-005957

in the country.

06:21:15Source

Secretary-General

asr-005958

Representative Nisay.

06:21:16Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005959

To the Committee on

06:21:17Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005960

Labor and Employment.

06:21:18Source

Secretary-General

asr-005961

House Bill 11385.

06:21:19Source

Secretary-General

asr-005962

Regulating the

06:21:20Source

Secretary-General

asr-005963

organization and

06:21:21Source

Secretary-General

asr-005964

operation of

06:21:22Source

Secretary-General

asr-005965

community fund

06:21:23Source

Secretary-General

asr-005966

pooling or

06:21:23Source

Secretary-General

asr-005967

paluwagin groups.

06:21:25Source

Secretary-General

asr-005968

Representative Nisay.

06:21:26Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005969

Committee on Micro, Small

06:21:27Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005970

and Medium Enterprise

06:21:27Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005971

Development.

06:21:28Source

Secretary-General

asr-005972

House Bill 11386.

06:21:29Source

Secretary-General

asr-005973

Preserving the

06:21:30Source

Secretary-General

asr-005974

indigenous games

06:21:31Source

Secretary-General

asr-005975

of the Philippines.

06:21:32Source

Secretary-General

asr-005976

Representative Nisay.

06:21:34Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005977

To the Committee on

06:21:34Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005978

Youth and Sports

06:21:35Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005979

Development.

06:21:35Source

Secretary-General

asr-005980

House Bill 11387.

06:21:37Source

Secretary-General

asr-005981

Strengthening

06:21:37Source

Secretary-General

asr-005982

responsible

06:21:38Source

Secretary-General

asr-005983

firearm ownership

06:21:39Source

Secretary-General

asr-005984

and accountability

06:21:40Source

Secretary-General

asr-005985

of Representative

06:21:41Source

Secretary-General

asr-005986

D.

06:21:41Source

Secretary-General

asr-005987

Paustino and

06:21:42Source

Secretary-General

asr-005988

Marcos.

06:21:42Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005989

Committee on Public

06:21:43Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-005990

Order and Safety.

06:21:44Source

Secretary-General

asr-005991

Resolutions.

06:21:45Source

Secretary-General

asr-005992

House Resolution

06:21:46Source

Secretary-General

asr-005993

1460.

06:21:48Source

Secretary-General

asr-005994

Directing the

06:21:48Source

Secretary-General

asr-005995

appropriate

06:21:48Source

Secretary-General

asr-005996

committee of

06:21:49Source

Secretary-General

asr-005997

the House of

06:21:50Source

Secretary-General

asr-005998

Representatives

06:21:51Source

Secretary-General

asr-005999

to conduct

06:21:51Source

Secretary-General

asr-006000

an inquiry

06:21:52Source

Secretary-General

asr-006001

into the

06:21:52Source

Secretary-General

asr-006002

continued

06:21:52Source

Secretary-General

asr-006003

operation

06:21:53Source

Secretary-General

asr-006004

and availability

06:21:54Source

Secretary-General

asr-006005

in the

06:21:54Source

Secretary-General

asr-006006

Philippines

06:21:55Source

Secretary-General

asr-006007

of the

06:21:55Source

Secretary-General

asr-006008

services

06:21:56Source

Secretary-General

asr-006009

of Meta

06:21:57Source

Secretary-General

asr-006010

Platforms

06:21:57Source

Secretary-General

asr-006011

Incorporated.

06:21:58Source

Secretary-General

asr-006012

Representative

06:21:59Source

Secretary-General

asr-006013

De Jesus.

06:21:59Source

Secretary-General

asr-006014

Committee on

06:21:59Source

Secretary-General

asr-006015

Rules.

06:22:00Source

Secretary-General

asr-006016

House Resolution

06:22:01Source

Secretary-General

asr-006017

1461.

06:22:03Source

Secretary-General

asr-006018

Congratulating

06:22:03Source

Secretary-General

asr-006019

and commending

06:22:04Source

Secretary-General

asr-006020

the Jesus

06:22:05Source

Secretary-General

asr-006021

Lord Church

06:22:06Source

Secretary-General

asr-006022

Worldwide

06:22:07Source

Secretary-General

asr-006023

on the celebration

06:22:07Source

Secretary-General

asr-006024

of its 48th

06:22:08Source

Secretary-General

asr-006025

founding

06:22:09Source

Secretary-General

asr-006026

anniversary

06:22:11Source

Secretary-General

asr-006027

on October

06:22:12Source

Secretary-General

asr-006028

10,

06:22:12Source

Secretary-General

asr-006029

2026.

06:22:13Source

Secretary-General

asr-006030

Representative

06:22:13Source

Secretary-General

asr-006031

Baronda.

06:22:14Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006032

Committee on

06:22:14Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006033

Rules.

06:22:15Source

Secretary-General

asr-006034

House Resolution

06:22:16Source

Secretary-General

asr-006035

1464.

06:22:17Source

Secretary-General

asr-006036

Commending

06:22:17Source

Secretary-General

asr-006037

and honoring

06:22:18Source

Secretary-General

asr-006038

the extraordinary

06:22:19Source

Secretary-General

asr-006039

bravery

06:22:19Source

Secretary-General

asr-006040

and supreme

06:22:20Source

Secretary-General

asr-006041

sacrifice

06:22:21Source

Secretary-General

asr-006042

of Scout

06:22:21Source

Secretary-General

asr-006043

Chris

06:22:22Source

Secretary-General

asr-006044

Lawrence

06:22:22Source

Secretary-General

asr-006045

Tanglao

06:22:23Source

Secretary-General

asr-006046

Fabian,

06:22:24Source

Secretary-General

asr-006047

who gave

06:22:24Source

Secretary-General

asr-006048

his life

06:22:24Source

Secretary-General

asr-006049

to save

06:22:25Source

Secretary-General

asr-006050

his

06:22:25Source

Secretary-General

asr-006051

fellow

06:22:26Source

Secretary-General

asr-006052

students

06:22:26Source

Secretary-General

asr-006053

during

06:22:26Source

Secretary-General

asr-006054

the tragic

06:22:27Source

Secretary-General

asr-006055

shooting

06:22:27Source

Secretary-General

asr-006056

incident

06:22:28Source

Secretary-General

asr-006057

at San Jose

06:22:29Source

Secretary-General

asr-006058

National

06:22:29Source

Secretary-General

asr-006059

High

06:22:30Source

Secretary-General

asr-006060

School

06:22:30Source

Secretary-General

asr-006061

in Tacloban

06:22:31Source

Secretary-General

asr-006062

City.

06:22:31Source

Secretary-General

asr-006063

Representative

06:22:32Source

Secretary-General

asr-006064

De Faustina

06:22:33Source

Secretary-General

asr-006065

Marcos

06:22:33Source

Secretary-General

asr-006066

and

06:22:33Source

Secretary-General

asr-006067

Libanan.

06:22:34Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006068

Committee on

06:22:34Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006069

Rules.

06:22:35Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006070

Majority

06:22:36Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006071

Leader.

06:22:39Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-006072

Madam

06:22:39Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-006073

Speaker,

06:22:40Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-006074

move

06:22:40Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-006075

to suspend

06:22:41Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-006076

for a

06:22:41Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-006077

few

06:22:41Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-006078

minutes.

06:22:42Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006079

Session

06:22:42Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006080

suspended.

06:26:30Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006289

Session resumed.

06:26:31Source

Rep. Antonino B. Roman III

asr-006290

Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session until Monday, September 21 at 1 p.m.

06:26:38Source

Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin

asr-006291

Any objection? Hearing none. Session is suspended until Monday, September 21, 2026 at 1 o'clock in the afternoon.