1 00:02:02,690 --> 00:02:06,470 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed. Majority Leader. 2 00:02:06,470 --> 00:02:16,580 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission. 3 00:02:16,580 --> 00:02:21,580 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader. 4 00:02:21,580 --> 00:02:29,980 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and the officials of the Philippine Competition Commission, 5 00:02:29,980 --> 00:02:44,600 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Chairperson Michael Aguinaldo, Commissioner Mara Victoria Querol, Commissioner Michael Peloton, Commissioner Lolibeth Medrano, Commissioner Ferdinand Negre. I so move, Mr. Speaker. 6 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the heads of the Philippine Competition Commission headed by the Chairperson, the Honorable Michael G. Aguinaldo, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. 7 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,020 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate. 8 00:03:04,020 --> 00:03:09,540 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader. 9 00:03:09,540 --> 00:03:25,750 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Dante Garcia, Vice Chair of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the budget of the Philippine Competition Commission. 10 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:29,980 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Dante Garcia is recognized. Please proceed. 11 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:34,010 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the honorable... 12 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Mr. Speaker, to my esteemed colleague in the House of Representatives, 13 00:03:45,940 --> 00:03:55,780 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: I once again stand to sponsor the budget of an agency that is vital to the strength of our economy across various sectors, 14 00:03:55,780 --> 00:03:59,780 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: such as public procurement, telecommunications, 15 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,740 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: communications, and agriculture. 16 00:04:02,740 --> 00:04:09,940 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The Philippine Competition Commission, the PCC, implements the Philippine Competition Act 17 00:04:09,940 --> 00:04:14,860 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: by prohibiting anti-competitive agreements, 18 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: abuse of dominant position, and anti-competitive mergers and acquisitions. 19 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,160 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: This would turn, ensure that business compete and consumers benefit. 20 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:45,320 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Since we approved its budget in 2026, the PCC has ramped up its surveillance and investigative capabilities in procurement and bidding anomalies. 21 00:04:45,940 --> 00:04:51,360 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Scrutinize mergers and acquisitions that may harm markets. 22 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:59,360 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Cast light on questionable business practices through economic research and increase... 23 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:08,300 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The business sector's understanding of competition law through advocacy and capacity-building activities. 24 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,840 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: In terms of its surveillance and investigative mandate, 25 00:05:14,740 --> 00:05:21,760 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: the PCC has answered the nation's clamor to look into anomalous flood control projects. 26 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:29,300 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC has referred to the Department of Justice its initial findings involving... 27 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,620 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: bidrigging in flood control projects in Bulacan. 28 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:39,060 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Further, the PCC together with the NBI conducted a dawn raid 29 00:05:39,060 --> 00:05:43,920 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: covering premises associated with SunWest Incorporated, 30 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,640 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Eco Leisure and Hospitality Holdings Company, Inc., 31 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:56,020 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: where the PCC and NBI reasonably suspect that relevant documentary 32 00:05:56,020 --> 00:06:00,620 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and electronic records related to the ongoing investigation were located. 33 00:06:01,980 --> 00:06:07,580 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: This decisive action underscores PCC's commitment to ensuring that business 34 00:06:07,580 --> 00:06:12,200 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: operate within the bounds of the Philippine Competition Act. 35 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:18,540 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: In addition, the PCC has fined the Boracay Business Administration 36 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:25,020 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: of Scuba Shops and 40 of its member dive shops, 37 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:26,000 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: total of 38 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:32,820 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: 2.17 million for engaging in price-fixing on Boracay Island. 39 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,000 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Malay, Aklan, and directed BBASS and its member dive shops 40 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:44,800 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: to cease and desist from enforcing the multi-year price-fixing agreement 41 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,340 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: that harmed local tourism. 42 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,120 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC has likewise reviewed 21 mergers and acquisitions 43 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,960 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: with the transaction value that approximately 44 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:03,040 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: 515.6 billion pesos for any competition concerns 45 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,300 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: for fiscal year 2026 to date. 46 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:10,980 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Across sectors such as energy and financial services, 47 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: the PCC together with the DICT and NTC 48 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,460 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: likewise finalized the implementation of rules and regulations 49 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:22,600 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: of the Konektadong Pinoy Act, 50 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: which aims to foster competition among 51 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,740 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: data, transmission industry participants, 52 00:07:29,740 --> 00:07:31,840 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and internet service providers. 53 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:36,940 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Lastly, given the importance of awareness and competition laws 54 00:07:36,940 --> 00:07:39,880 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: by the private sector and its regulators, 55 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:46,280 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: the PCC continues to conduct advocacy and capacity-building activities. 56 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:52,520 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC secured pledges from four of the biggest business organizations 57 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,760 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: in the country, namely the Philippine Chamber of Commerce, 58 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:11,900 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The Philippine Retailers Association, the Pharmaceutical and Healthcare Association of the Philippines, and the Financial Executive Institute of the Philippines to uphold the provisions of the Philippine Competition Act. 59 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:28,320 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: With a budget of P587.6 million, the PCC was able to achieve the aforementioned initiatives, as I believe that the PCC can do more with more resources to help the government protect public funds. 60 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:41,640 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: While the overall national budget for 2027 sees a 6% increase, our specific request for the PCC is calibrated to address the complex challenges, 61 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:44,420 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: we face across various sectors. 62 00:08:45,540 --> 00:08:53,260 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: This budget will enable us to significantly ramp up our surveillance and investigative capabilities, 63 00:08:54,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: allowing us to proactively detect and dismantle cartels, anti-competitive conduct, and bidrigging schemes that prey on each Filipino. 64 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:10,300 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: This budget will be used to bolster our enforcement arm, 65 00:09:10,830 --> 00:09:11,900 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: enhance our data 66 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:17,540 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: analytics capabilities to identify suspicious bidding patterns, 67 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and strengthen our collaboration with other oversight agencies. 68 00:09:24,780 --> 00:09:36,840 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We are here to assure this Chamber that the PCC is fully committed to protect the public purse from the predatory practices of anti-competitive behavior. 69 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,360 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: I urge my colleagues to support this budget. 70 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:48,980 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: As it is about for fair markets, for fiscal responsibility, and for more competitive, prosperous Philippines. 71 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:49,940 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Thank you. 72 00:09:50,660 --> 00:09:53,120 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Garcia, Majority Leader. 73 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation. 74 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list PHILRECA is recognized. 75 00:10:03,580 --> 00:10:04,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 76 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:10,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor, my idol. 77 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Cong Dante Garcia. 78 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:18,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My question is about the competition in Philippine renewable energy sector. 79 00:10:19,460 --> 00:10:24,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, good evening po sa atin lahat. 80 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:30,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: PCC plays a crucial role in ensuring healthy competition in the energy sector. 81 00:10:30,780 --> 00:10:32,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So I will start. 82 00:10:33,740 --> 00:10:39,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is it true that the PCC had already conducted a competition impact assessment? 83 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:46,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the Green Energy Auction Program, or GEAP, with the DOE and ERC? 84 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:59,520 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, the PCC conducted the study in 2025 and then conducted policy dialogue with the DOE and ERC last January and March of this year. 85 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:10,140 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The study examined whether specific features of the program may create or facilitate anti-competitive effects. 86 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:17,780 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: in the renewable energy sector, and identified policy options to address potential competition concerns, 87 00:11:18,620 --> 00:11:25,020 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: including the role of the PCC in coordination with the DOE, ERC, and other relevant bodies. 88 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:29,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor. 89 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:36,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My follow-up question is, is it also true that the group had identified competition concerns 90 00:11:36,660 --> 00:11:40,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: involving the geographic segmentation of the green energy sector? 91 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:53,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the determination of Green Energy Auction Reserve, or GEAR, prices and the disclosure of price caps and conduct of pre-bid conferences, among others. 92 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:01,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can you share those competition concerns for the benefit of the body and the sector as a whole? 93 00:12:02,740 --> 00:12:10,260 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC's role is to primarily assess the competition effects of GEAP 94 00:12:10,260 --> 00:12:15,480 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: within the existing framework and recommend pro-competitive reforms to the agencies concerned, 95 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,140 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: namely DOE and ERC. 96 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,080 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The study identified three potential competition concerns. 97 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,900 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: First, the location-specific or per-grid auction design. 98 00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:35,060 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Second is the consistency and transparency of GEAR price determination 99 00:12:35,060 --> 00:12:40,160 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and the disclosure of auction-related information, particularly GEAR prices, 100 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and the conduct 101 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,660 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: of pre-bid conferences. 102 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, 103 00:12:45,980 --> 00:12:47,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor. 104 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My next follow-up question, Mr. Speaker, 105 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor, is this part 106 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:53,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of PCC's mandate to 107 00:12:53,860 --> 00:12:56,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: assess competition, risks, 108 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and recommend reforms 109 00:12:57,620 --> 00:12:59,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to maintain a healthy competitive 110 00:12:59,740 --> 00:13:02,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: industry? So, what concrete 111 00:13:02,140 --> 00:13:04,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: changes has the PCC 112 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: recommended to the ERC 113 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and DOE in making 114 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the GEAP process more competitive? 115 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: As mentioned earlier, 116 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,940 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: the PCC provided 117 00:13:15,940 --> 00:13:18,000 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: policy recommendations were 118 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,700 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: based on its assessment 119 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:22,540 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: of GEAP 1 and GEAP 2 120 00:13:22,540 --> 00:13:23,680 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: through the CIA. 121 00:13:24,740 --> 00:13:26,360 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Findings and recommendations 122 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,220 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: were discussed with the 123 00:13:28,220 --> 00:13:29,840 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: DOE last January 124 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,160 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: 2026, and 125 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,260 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: ERC on March 126 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:36,100 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: 2026, through 127 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:37,980 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: policy dialogue including 128 00:13:37,980 --> 00:13:39,960 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: their possible application 129 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,820 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: to future GIA programs. 130 00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:44,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, 131 00:13:44,380 --> 00:13:45,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 132 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor. Now, I'm moving 133 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to another topic, the 134 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: anti-competitive practices 135 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in fuel markets. 136 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:54,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question, 137 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will still revolve around 138 00:13:57,820 --> 00:14:00,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: competition in the energy sector 139 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in April 2026? 140 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:03,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Amid 141 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: substantial fuel price pressures, 142 00:14:06,500 --> 00:14:07,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the PCC publicly 143 00:14:07,620 --> 00:14:09,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: stated that it was closely 144 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: monitoring both the 145 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: petroleum market and 146 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: downstream markets for 147 00:14:15,620 --> 00:14:17,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: anti-competitive conduct. 148 00:14:18,460 --> 00:14:19,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: There are also calls from 149 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: experts to examine 150 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: possible cartel-like behavior 151 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:25,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and improve coordination 152 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:27,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in enforcing 153 00:14:27,060 --> 00:14:28,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: competition rules. 154 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My question to the good sponsor, 155 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 156 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:35,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is this has the PCC 157 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: move beyond 158 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:39,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: monitoring and actually 159 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: commence a formal investigation 160 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or 161 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: motu proprio inquiry 162 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: into the conduct of oil companies 163 00:14:47,380 --> 00:14:48,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: during that period? 164 00:14:51,980 --> 00:14:53,700 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: PCC is conducting 165 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:54,800 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: a fuel study 166 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,740 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: which aims to assess 167 00:14:56,740 --> 00:14:59,000 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: asymmetry in price adjustments. 168 00:14:59,740 --> 00:15:00,300 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Example, 169 00:15:00,785 --> 00:15:21,680 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: When stations price increase rapidly with international prices but adjust slowly when this cost decrease, it also aims to look at price dispersion within a city and determine whether particular stations or brands show delayed rollback or remain persistently above local market prices. 170 00:15:23,020 --> 00:15:28,640 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The study is ongoing pending data requests with fuel players and government agencies. 171 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:40,340 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: PCC has started gathering and analyzing industry data to determine whether firm behavior during this time reflect a competitive environment or not. 172 00:15:41,060 --> 00:15:47,660 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Specifically looking at how firms adjust prices with and without the supply shocks. 173 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:57,060 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: PCC issued requests for information to key players in the industry, some of which have complied with the request. 174 00:15:57,060 --> 00:15:59,980 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: At present, the PCC is analyzing the industry data. 175 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:08,360 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC is analyzing the data to determine whether the behavior of the key players indicate possible anti-competitive conduct. 176 00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:15,100 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC has received request data from the DOA today, September 18, 2026. 177 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 178 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:29,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor, a few days ago, I have raised urgent concerns related to privacy risks in digital platforms. 179 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:51,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Incidentally, I came across the information that PCC's market study on social media and search platform found that the Philippines' digital platform market is highly concentrated and identified the accumulation of user data as a potential source of market power. 180 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It specifically discussed Facebook and Google and observed that data advantages, 181 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: network effects, and economies of scale may reinforce barriers to entry. 182 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:12,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What does the PCC intend to do with these findings beyond publishing the market study? 183 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:22,840 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC has recommended incorporating data privacy considerations more explicitly into competition assessments. 184 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,840 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Studying data, portability, and interoperability. 185 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Strengthening coordination with privacy regulators and considering legislative measures to update the competition framework for data-driven markets. 186 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 187 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:54,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In 2024, the PCC received substantial resources for the capacity building to foster competition projects, 188 00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:57,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but only 34% of the continuing... 189 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: appropriation for the foreign-assisted project was obligated. 190 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:03,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is that correct? 191 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:07,040 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes. 192 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:13,540 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We note that said amount is part of the continuing appropriation for the project released in 2023. 193 00:18:13,540 --> 00:18:20,340 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: At that time, PCC requested for the issuance of SARO amounting 104 million only. 194 00:18:21,380 --> 00:18:24,940 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Equivalent to the loan proceeds downloaded by ADB, however, 195 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,700 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: DBM issued 280 million instead. 196 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Which resulted to the excess resources. 197 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 198 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:41,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ADB's project data showed that as of June 23, 2026, 199 00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:50,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: cumulative contract awards were only 45% and cumulative loan disbursements were 41% 200 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:54,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the loan has now been extended to June 30, 2028. 201 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Those figures are not identical to COA's 202 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: fiscal year 2024 utilization ratios 203 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:11,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but they still indicate that the substantial portion of the project financing remained undisbursed. 204 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:14,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Before Congress provides additional appropriation, 205 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:22,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: can the PCC give us its quarterly obligation and disbursement target for fiscal year 2027 206 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and identify exactly what activities will absorb these funds. 207 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:42,680 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC can point to the loan extension, revised procurement, programming, additional project proposals, and strengthened monitoring as measures intended to accelerate implementation. 208 00:19:46,210 --> 00:20:01,450 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And for my last question, how many pending antitrust or pending cases have been filed or are being reviewed by the Philippine Competition Commission? 209 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,950 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: There are seven active cases ongoing, Your Honor. 210 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:37,930 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can we divulge what those seven are, or will it be against the PCC's confidentiality clause? 211 00:20:37,930 --> 00:20:43,620 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We will submit the complete data to you, Your Honor, for you to review. 212 00:20:43,870 --> 00:21:12,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. Thank you. Because, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, you know the Philippine Competition Commission plays a big role, especially to those merging companies, no, para hindi ho tayo maiwanan sa ere at walang collusion, especially po pagdating sa fuel. As you know, malaki ang problema natin sa fuel ngayon, and I hope the PCC will take cognizance when it comes to energy sources. Again, 213 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I always [unclear] for your budget for PCC for this year. Thank you very much. 214 00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:27,760 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable De Jesus, Majority Leader. 215 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:34,080 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal for his interpellation. 216 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,620 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Robert Nazal of Partylist BH is recognized. Please proceed. 217 00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:42,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good evening, Mr. Chair. 218 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:59,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, may I ask the PCC, have you studied what happens when a major retailer is both the gatekeeper of the market and a competitor of suppliers selling inside its stores? 219 00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:02,140 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes. 220 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,340 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pinag-aaralan niyo po yan. 221 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:08,100 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes. 222 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:12,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Major retailers carry products made by independent suppliers. 223 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But they may also develop their own private label products. 224 00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:23,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sometimes products very similar to those already being successfully sold by their suppliers. 225 00:22:25,220 --> 00:22:28,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So there is nothing inherently illegal about private labels. 226 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:42,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: But the retailer knows what sells, controls the shelf, and counter space, controls inventory and promotions, 227 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and then competes against the supplier with its own product. 228 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nangyayari po ito. 229 00:22:50,020 --> 00:22:53,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: At what point does this become a competition concern? 230 00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:55,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or when does it become? 231 00:22:56,180 --> 00:23:00,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Inaanalyze po ba natin when it becomes predatory in practice? 232 00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:31,560 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC is closely monitoring that's happening and a thorough investigation will be conducted. 233 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:42,360 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron na po ba kayong nakitang mga ganito? And were there complaints, for example, that were filed with the PCC that was actually investigated upon? 234 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,600 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: There were minor complaints. 235 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:51,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And what intervention, Mr. Chair and distinguished colleague, ang ginawa po ng PCC? 236 00:23:52,340 --> 00:24:03,160 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: There were minor complaints but it was given an attention and it was informed to the manufacturer. 237 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, meron po ba tayong portal na pwedeng magreklamo ang, let's say, SMEs? 238 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,440 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We can use the website. 239 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,200 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Of the PCC and the social media. 240 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:32,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And is it very easy to file a complaint? And once an SME, for example, files a complaint against any predatory practice, ganong katagal ang response time? 241 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:42,500 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, pwedeng madali ang mag-file ng complaint kasi pwede sa online at sa Facebook page ng PCC. 242 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,720 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Kaya ganon, kadali ang pag-file, may investigation kagad. 243 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,560 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, distinguished colleague, let me give a practical example. 244 00:24:52,500 --> 00:25:00,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung may independent brand na successful, then the retailer comes out with a very similar own brand product at a lower price. 245 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:07,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos yung sariling brand niya, prominently displayed and readily available sa counter. 246 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: While yung competing product, wala doon, kailangan magbayad. 247 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,640 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos yung staff, kailangan pang umalas para kunin. 248 00:25:16,460 --> 00:25:19,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The retailer controls both the competition and the playing field. 249 00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:23,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Does the PCC examine practices like this? 250 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:28,440 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, yes. 251 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,020 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: That's called self-preferencing. 252 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:41,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ano pong actions ang pwede natin gawin in case meron tayong nahuhuling ganito? 253 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:52,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What intervention can the PCC do in behalf of those experiencing predatory practices? 254 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:59,180 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC can file a case against the retailer. 255 00:26:00,420 --> 00:26:03,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What if the retailer po is a giant? 256 00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:12,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Malakas, ha? 257 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:19,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And pwede po niyang balikan kasi yung halimbawa, pwede niyang balikan yung SME. 258 00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:27,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And if there are only a few retailers in the country, paano po ang mangyayari kung ang gagawin niya, 259 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,280 Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang magiging balik niya doon sa nagreklamo, ay ibabanan niya sa shelf? 260 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:41,900 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC is mandated. May mandato ang PCC na kahit malaking tao man lang, kahit gaano kalaki, pwedeng sagasaan. 261 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:42,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And the PCC? 262 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:47,700 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The PCC guarantees that it can protect small players against practices such as this. 263 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:48,800 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Definitely. 264 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Mr. Chair, distinguished sponsor. 265 00:26:54,180 --> 00:27:05,820 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, has PCC ever conducted a market study comparing how major retailers treat their own private label products versus competing independent brands? 266 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: In shelf and counter placement, inventory availability, 267 00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:11,880 Rep. Roberto Nazal: promotion, 268 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:15,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: access to sales data, 269 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: pricing, 270 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:17,720 Rep. Roberto Nazal: supplier fees, 271 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: payment terms, 272 00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:19,520 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and other conditions. 273 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,480 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Because ang concern po natin is not simply that they copied the product or made something cheaper. 274 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:33,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The concern is whether a powerful retailer can identify a successful product from one of its suppliers, 275 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,580 Rep. Roberto Nazal: introduce its own competing version, 276 00:27:36,580 --> 00:27:42,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: and then use its control of the retail channel to give its own product. 277 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:47,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: An unfair advantage, and eventually squeeze the independent supplier out. 278 00:27:48,260 --> 00:27:53,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Does our present competition framework adequately protect against that? 279 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you very much. 280 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:08,880 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Wala pang public study, but we had compelled a very big retailer to be fair. 281 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ano pong kailangan na? 282 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:18,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is there anything you need, for example, from Congress in terms of amending your charter, strengthening it? 283 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:29,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron po ba tayo naiisip na mga pwede natin baguhin para po palakasin at bigyan ng pangil ang Philippine Competition Commission 284 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:35,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: para po lalo natin maprotektahan ang ating mga maliliit na nag-uumpisang maghanap buhay? 285 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:42,180 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: There is a pending bill on the committee. 286 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,680 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: On economic affairs, I think. 287 00:28:46,180 --> 00:28:50,280 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: And the PCC is closely working with the committee. 288 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I would like to co-author that, Mr. Chair, and the distinguished sponsor. 289 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,000 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, is PCC looking at the same gatekeeper problem in online platforms 290 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:09,500 Rep. Roberto Nazal: where the operator of the marketplace may also sell or promote products that compete with merchants 291 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:12,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: dependent on that marketplace? 292 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:19,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What safeguards does PCC consider necessary when the platform or retailer controls both 293 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: access to customer and the competitive environment? 294 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:29,200 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Para sa online naman po ito, distinguished sponsor. 295 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,200 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, we are looking to it. 296 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,930 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: And in terms of safeguarding the… 297 00:29:51,970 --> 00:29:54,450 Rep. Roberto Nazal: [unclear] 298 00:30:02,350 --> 00:30:17,860 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We are closely monitoring the market, and if there is a violation, we are bound to file a complaint. 299 00:30:18,010 --> 00:30:34,100 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kaya ako po tinatanong ito, Distinguished Sponsor, Mr. Speaker. Kasi po, ang napansin ko, noon, lalo na nung pandemic, naging advantage po ngayon yung online retailers. 300 00:30:34,140 --> 00:30:46,160 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So yung online platforms were helping yung ating maliliit na negosyante. Parang ang lumalabas ngayon, yung ating mga retailers, giant retailers, 301 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:56,420 Rep. Roberto Nazal: tsaka yung online at digital platforms are already charging, if not the same, yung ating digital platforms are charging even more. 302 00:30:57,620 --> 00:31:03,080 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ang gusto ko po sanang alamin is kung natitignan po natin yung charges na sinisingil nila. 303 00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:14,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi if you will ask and do conduct a study or maybe an online survey, tanungin nyo po yung mga nagbibenta online. 304 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,060 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The digital platforms are now charging maybe up to 60%. 305 00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:28,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And parang ang nangyayari, kung 100 pesos yung binibenta mo, 60 pesos na yung kinukuha nila, minsan 70 pesos pa. 306 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ang matitira sa'yo, 30 pesos, kukunin mo pa dun yung cost mo. 307 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:43,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So my concern is the PCC looking into that. Kasi po, dapat ho, I think it's about time that we monitor this. 308 00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:45,620 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi kung ano-anong charges ang nilalagay nila. 309 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:56,020 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We have looked into the digital platforms but not into that specific issue but we will see it now. 310 00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:57,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor. 311 00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:12,960 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, Distinguished Sponsor, have you also studied the competition implications when a conglomerate owns both a bank and businesses in sectors heavily dependent on financing such as real estate? 312 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:26,180 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Even if related party lending complies with banking regulations, can preferential access to financing reinforce market power in the conglomerate's non-banking business? 313 00:32:26,980 --> 00:32:31,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And has PCC studied this as a structural competition issue? 314 00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:42,840 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang tinatanong ko po ay yung possible whether PCC studies cross-sector competitive effects. 315 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:45,260 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, we have. 316 00:32:45,860 --> 00:32:47,980 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So you're already looking into that, Mr. Chair? 317 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Distinguished Sponsor, the PCC? 318 00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:52,180 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, we have. 319 00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:59,800 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So meron na po ba kayong nakita na, for example, industry na because of this, nagkakaroon ng unfair advantage? 320 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:09,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And if this is so, what is the, ano po ang gagawin ng PCC in order to help level the playing field? 321 00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:20,900 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: So far, wala pang nakikitang ganyan. Pero pag meron, rest assured na maaksyonan kagalit. 322 00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:28,680 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So baka po pwede natin tignan, maybe we can use AI to look into this kung ano po yung mga possible effects. 323 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi siyempre, magkakaroon po ng unfair advantage, di ba? 324 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:42,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair, Distinguished Colleague, the PCC's proposed 2027 budget is approximately 832 million. 325 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:47,460 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Including funding for competition, capacity building. 326 00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:54,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: What concrete sector reviews and enforcement milestones will this funding deliver? 327 00:33:55,060 --> 00:34:01,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Particularly for retail, digital platforms, and other highly concentrated markets. 328 00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:10,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Will the PCC use its own investigative authority proactively rather than require small businesses to initiate every case? 329 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,540 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ang tinatanong po natin is, 330 00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:20,320 Rep. Roberto Nazal: mag-aantay pa po ba tayo ng mga complaint bago tayong makagalaw? 331 00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:25,660 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or will we proactively seek measures which will protect small businesses? 332 00:34:37,860 --> 00:34:42,420 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We actively monitor the social medias. 333 00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:49,180 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: And any complaint, and we will immediately act on this matter. 334 00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:52,300 Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I request for a plan? 335 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung ano, how do you intend to spend the 832 million? 336 00:34:57,860 --> 00:35:07,020 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ano po yung safeguards na pwede na, safeguards that you plan to impose? 337 00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:10,740 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Plan sector studies, measurable outputs. 338 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:12,860 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how SMEs? 339 00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:18,900 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And suppliers can safely provide market information without fear of commercial retaliation? 340 00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:22,680 Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, Your Honor, we will provide you a copy. 341 00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:34,240 Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, I'm, that's all for all, para sa mga tanong ko. 342 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,920 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Maraming salamat sa PCC. 343 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:42,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And I hope the PCC will proactively craft, 344 00:35:43,020 --> 00:35:51,380 Rep. Roberto Nazal: proactively craft measures na makakatulong po at makakaprotekta po sa ating maliliit na naghahanap buhay. 345 00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:52,260 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Maraming salamat po. 346 00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:55,000 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Nazal. 347 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:59,220 Rep. Roberto Nazal: In behalf of the minority, I would like to terminate. 348 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,120 Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama ba? 349 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,140 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I move. 350 00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:05,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: I sorry, I move to terminate. 351 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: The period of sponsorship. 352 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,760 Rep. Roberto Nazal: And amendment for the PCC. 353 00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:16,400 Rep. Roberto Nazal: PCC, for the, for the budget of the PCC. 354 00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:19,120 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say? 355 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:32,940 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion of terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the PCC. 356 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:41,940 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission. 357 00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:44,340 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 358 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,180 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The chair hears none. 359 00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:53,400 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission is hereby terminated. 360 00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:56,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority leader. 361 00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:07,900 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes. 362 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,940 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is suspended. 363 00:38:59,990 --> 00:39:04,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed. Majority Leader. 364 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:11,920 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City, 365 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:19,200 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba and Tublay Development Authority. 366 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,300 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader. 367 00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:43,000 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Metropolitan Baguio City, Assistant Secretary Maria Monica C. Costales, and Director Mary Gail Antonia Kila. 368 00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:51,300 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority, 369 00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:57,840 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: represented by the Honorable ASEC, Maria Monica C. Costales, Ph.D., 370 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House of Representatives. 371 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:01,420 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 372 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:12,100 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable 373 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:17,200 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Vice Chairman Maria Angela Garcia of the Committee on Appropriations 374 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:25,250 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to sponsor the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority. 375 00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:30,740 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Vice Chair, Maria Angela Garcia of the Province of Bataan is recognized. 376 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. 377 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:42,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations, I have the privilege of sponsoring the Fiscal Year 2027 378 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:53,180 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority, or MBLISDA. 379 00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:04,260 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Together with ASEC, Maria Monica C. Costales, and the MBLISDA family, we are ready to answer questions during this interpellation. 380 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,540 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you Honorable Garcia. Majority Leader. 381 00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:11,920 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Thank you. 382 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,020 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move 383 00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:14,880 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: that we recognize 384 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,140 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Representative Presley De Jesus 385 00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:19,340 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: from 386 00:41:19,340 --> 00:41:21,400 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: PHILRECA Party-list 387 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,440 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: for his interpellation. 388 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,820 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus 389 00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:27,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Party-list PHILRECA, 390 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:27,820 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. 391 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,580 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 392 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 393 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And to the distinguished sponsor, 394 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:36,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 395 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members 396 00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:40,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority 397 00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:42,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpellate, 398 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate 399 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the sponsorship 400 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:45,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate 401 00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:46,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget 402 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Metropolitan, 403 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Baguio City, 404 00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:50,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: La Trinidad, 405 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Itogon, 406 00:41:51,620 --> 00:41:52,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sablan, 407 00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:53,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Tuba, 408 00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:55,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and Tublay Development Authority. 409 00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:56,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, 410 00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:58,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker. 411 00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,920 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say? 412 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader? 413 00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:01,600 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 414 00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:02,960 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part of the majority, 415 00:42:03,220 --> 00:42:04,340 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority 416 00:42:04,340 --> 00:42:05,120 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: in the motion 417 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,420 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate the period 418 00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:07,420 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of interpellation 419 00:42:07,420 --> 00:42:09,300 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the proposed budget. 420 00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:11,840 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion 421 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,140 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: to terminate 422 00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:13,920 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the interpellations 423 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,080 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget 424 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,680 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Metropolitan, 425 00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:17,640 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Baguio City, 426 00:42:17,780 --> 00:42:18,340 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: La Trinidad, 427 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:18,900 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Itogon, 428 00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:19,420 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Sablan, 429 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:19,760 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Tuba, 430 00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:22,140 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Tublay Development Authority. 431 00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:24,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 432 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,320 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 433 00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:28,400 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellation 434 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,780 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the proposed budget 435 00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:31,120 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Metropolitan, 436 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,060 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Baguio City, 437 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,660 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: La Trinidad, 438 00:42:32,860 --> 00:42:33,280 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Itogon, 439 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:33,760 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Sablan, 440 00:42:33,860 --> 00:42:34,060 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Tuba, 441 00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:36,120 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Tublay Development Authority 442 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,840 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated. 443 00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:39,180 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations. 444 00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:40,580 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 445 00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:12,760 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 446 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,600 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move to consider 447 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,740 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the proposed budget 448 00:43:15,740 --> 00:43:16,720 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Authority 449 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:17,800 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Freeport Area 450 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,440 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of Bataan. 451 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,800 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 452 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,300 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 453 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,300 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved. 454 00:43:23,740 --> 00:43:24,360 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 455 00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:27,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 456 00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:28,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we 457 00:43:28,660 --> 00:43:30,100 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: acknowledge the heads 458 00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:30,780 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: and the officials 459 00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:31,640 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Authority 460 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,380 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of Freeport Area Bataan, 461 00:43:34,340 --> 00:43:36,280 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Administrator and CEO 462 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,280 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Muhammad Hussein Pangandaman, 463 00:43:39,620 --> 00:43:40,140 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Deputy Administrator 464 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:41,920 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for Support Services, 465 00:43:42,140 --> 00:43:43,960 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Maria Lourdes Herrera, 466 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,740 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Deputy Administrator 467 00:43:45,740 --> 00:43:47,360 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for Operations, 468 00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:50,960 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Michael Angelo Padiraga. 469 00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:52,820 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: So move, Mr. Speaker. 470 00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:54,080 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family 471 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,060 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Authority 472 00:43:55,060 --> 00:43:56,760 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Freeport Area of Bataan, 473 00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:58,680 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: led by Administrator 474 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,280 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Chief Executive Officer, 475 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,020 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Muhammad Hussein P. Pangandaman, 476 00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:04,220 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House 477 00:44:04,220 --> 00:44:05,020 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Representatives. 478 00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:06,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 479 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:07,540 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 480 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,340 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize 481 00:44:09,340 --> 00:44:12,060 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Maria Angela 482 00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:12,830 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Garcia, 483 00:44:13,290 --> 00:44:14,200 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Vice Chairperson 484 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:14,880 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Committee 485 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,740 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on Appropriations 486 00:44:15,740 --> 00:44:17,000 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: to sponsor the proposed 487 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: budget of the Authority 488 00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:19,700 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Freeport Area 489 00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:20,260 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of Bataan. 490 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Vice Chairperson 491 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:23,360 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Committee 492 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on Appropriations, 493 00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:26,780 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Maria Angela Garcia, 494 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,580 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. 495 00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:28,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 496 00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:30,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 497 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: On behalf of the Committee 498 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,380 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: on Appropriations, 499 00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:35,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: I have the privilege 500 00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:35,980 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of sponsoring 501 00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:37,300 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: the proposed 502 00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,560 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: fiscal year 2027 budget 503 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,960 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of the Authority 504 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of the Freeport Area of Bataan. 505 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Together with Administrator 506 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Muhammad Hussein P. Pangandaman 507 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: and the AFAB family, 508 00:44:49,780 --> 00:44:51,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: we are ready to answer questions 509 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,200 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: during this interpellation. 510 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,940 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Garcia. 511 00:44:55,220 --> 00:44:55,880 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 512 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,280 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 513 00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:58,580 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize 514 00:44:58,580 --> 00:44:59,640 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Presley 515 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,200 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: De Jesus 516 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,000 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for his interpellation. 517 00:45:01,820 --> 00:45:04,220 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Representative 518 00:45:04,220 --> 00:45:05,860 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Presley De Jesus of Party-list 519 00:45:05,860 --> 00:45:08,200 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: PHILRECA is recognized. Please proceed. 520 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 521 00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:12,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor, 522 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more 523 00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:16,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: members of the minority 524 00:45:16,580 --> 00:45:18,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to 525 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: interpellate, I move 526 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to terminate the sponsorship 527 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate for the budget 528 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of authority of the 529 00:45:25,460 --> 00:45:27,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Freeport Area of Bataan. 530 00:45:27,980 --> 00:45:30,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, 531 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:30,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker. 532 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,200 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say? 533 00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:35,040 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader? 534 00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:37,740 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, 535 00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:39,800 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: we join the minority in the motion 536 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,740 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: to terminate the period of interpellations 537 00:45:41,740 --> 00:45:43,860 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on the proposed budget of the authority 538 00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:45,500 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Freeport Area of Bataan. 539 00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:48,100 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion to terminate 540 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,060 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the interpellations on the proposed budget 541 00:45:50,060 --> 00:45:52,200 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Authority of the Freeport 542 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,100 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: area of Bataan. 543 00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:54,780 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 544 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:56,440 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 545 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:57,960 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations on 546 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,180 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the proposed budget of the authority 547 00:46:00,180 --> 00:46:01,860 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Freeport Area of Bataan 548 00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:03,240 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated. 549 00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:04,660 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations. 550 00:46:05,660 --> 00:46:06,300 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 551 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,100 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget 552 00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:12,400 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority. 553 00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:14,700 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 554 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,680 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 555 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,400 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved. 556 00:46:19,740 --> 00:46:20,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 557 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,560 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge 558 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,980 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the heads and officials 559 00:46:23,980 --> 00:46:27,320 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority, 560 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:27,920 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: namely, 561 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,840 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Administrator and CEO, 562 00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:32,580 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile, 563 00:46:32,820 --> 00:46:35,420 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and Deputy Administrator 564 00:46:35,420 --> 00:46:37,120 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: for Support Services, 565 00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:39,600 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Perla C. Tumaliuan. 566 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,200 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family 567 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,960 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority, 568 00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:47,660 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: headed by Administrator 569 00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:49,300 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Chief Executive Officer, 570 00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:52,100 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile, 571 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,960 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House of Representatives. 572 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:55,820 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 573 00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:57,100 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 574 00:46:57,100 --> 00:46:57,940 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move 575 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:58,940 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: that we recognize 576 00:46:58,940 --> 00:47:02,480 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Vice Chair, 577 00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:04,260 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Maria Angela Garcia, 578 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Committee 579 00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:09,080 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of Appropriations 580 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,680 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to sponsor the proposed budget 581 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority. 582 00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:16,260 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Vice Chairperson 583 00:47:16,260 --> 00:47:18,140 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Appropriations Committee, 584 00:47:19,660 --> 00:47:22,080 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Representative Maria Angela Garcia, 585 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:22,820 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. 586 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,740 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 587 00:47:24,460 --> 00:47:25,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 588 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations, 589 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: I have the privilege of sponsoring 590 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:33,760 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: the Fiscal Year 2027 Budget 591 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority. 592 00:47:37,460 --> 00:47:40,300 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Together with Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile 593 00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:42,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: and the CEZA family, 594 00:47:42,580 --> 00:47:44,460 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: we are ready to answer questions 595 00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:45,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: during this interpellation. 596 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,980 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Garcia. 597 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:48,920 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 598 00:47:49,580 --> 00:47:50,060 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 599 00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:52,100 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move that we recognize 600 00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:54,840 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Presley De Jesus. 601 00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:57,540 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus, 602 00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,500 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. 603 00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:00,430 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 604 00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:02,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 605 00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:04,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members 606 00:48:04,580 --> 00:48:06,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority 607 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpellate. 608 00:48:08,860 --> 00:48:10,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate the sponsorship 609 00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:12,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate for the budget 610 00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:14,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority. 611 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Mr. Speaker. 612 00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:18,660 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say? 613 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,600 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 614 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,560 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 615 00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:21,880 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part of the majority, 616 00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:23,920 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority in the motion 617 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,260 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate the period of interpellations 618 00:48:26,260 --> 00:48:28,740 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the proposed budget 619 00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:33,300 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority. 620 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:34,860 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion 621 00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:36,820 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: to terminate the interpellations 622 00:48:36,820 --> 00:48:37,860 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget 623 00:48:37,860 --> 00:48:40,480 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority. 624 00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:42,120 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 625 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,980 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The chair hears none. 626 00:48:44,620 --> 00:48:45,480 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations 627 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,580 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget 628 00:48:46,580 --> 00:48:49,020 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority 629 00:48:49,020 --> 00:48:50,600 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated. 630 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,080 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations. 631 00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:53,760 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 632 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,000 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 633 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,360 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move to consider 634 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,400 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the proposed budget 635 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:57,800 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the... 636 00:48:57,820 --> 00:48:58,960 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Zamboanga City 637 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,980 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Special Economic Zone Authority. 638 00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:03,180 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 639 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,760 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 640 00:49:04,980 --> 00:49:05,680 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved. 641 00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:06,720 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 642 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:08,620 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 643 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,780 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: may we acknowledge 644 00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:11,140 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the heads and the officials 645 00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:13,440 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Zamboanga City 646 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,080 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Special Economic Zone Authority, 647 00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:17,080 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Chairman and Administrator 648 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Raul Regondola, 649 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,260 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Board Member Rey Bayoging, 650 00:49:22,540 --> 00:49:23,560 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Deputy Administrator 651 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,820 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Planning and Operations 652 00:49:24,820 --> 00:49:26,040 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Reynold Pareja, 653 00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:27,800 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: OIC Deputy Administrator 654 00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:29,820 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for the Support Services, 655 00:49:29,820 --> 00:49:32,820 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Ronald Aca-ac, 656 00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:34,580 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: OIC Department Manager 657 00:49:34,580 --> 00:49:35,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for Finance, 658 00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:37,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Bennett Mandiadi. 659 00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:39,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I so move, Mr. Speaker. 660 00:49:39,460 --> 00:49:41,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Zamboanga 661 00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:44,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: City Special Economic Zone Authority, 662 00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:46,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: headed by Chairman and Administrator 663 00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:49,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Raul M. Regondola, 664 00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:50,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House 665 00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:51,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Representatives. 666 00:49:51,460 --> 00:49:52,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 667 00:49:52,460 --> 00:49:53,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 668 00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:54,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize 669 00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:55,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the honorable 670 00:49:55,460 --> 00:49:57,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Bella Vanessa Suansing, 671 00:49:57,660 --> 00:49:59,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Vice Chairperson of the 672 00:49:59,660 --> 00:50:00,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Committee on Appropriations 673 00:50:00,660 --> 00:50:01,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: to sponsor the proposed 674 00:50:01,660 --> 00:50:03,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: budget of the Zamboanga City 675 00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:05,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Special Economic Zone Authority. 676 00:50:05,660 --> 00:50:07,660 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Bella Suansing 677 00:50:07,660 --> 00:50:08,660 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. 678 00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:09,940 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 679 00:50:10,260 --> 00:50:11,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 680 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,230 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This presentation is ready 681 00:50:13,230 --> 00:50:15,070 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to answer questions regarding 682 00:50:15,070 --> 00:50:16,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the proposed budget of 683 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Zamboanga City Special Economic 684 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,910 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Zone Authority in Freeport. 685 00:50:18,910 --> 00:50:19,410 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 686 00:50:19,690 --> 00:50:21,200 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Suansing. 687 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 688 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:22,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 689 00:50:22,660 --> 00:50:23,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize 690 00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:25,660 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Presley De Jesus. 691 00:50:26,660 --> 00:50:27,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable 692 00:50:27,460 --> 00:50:29,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Presley C. De Jesus 693 00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:30,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Party-list PHILRECA 694 00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:31,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. 695 00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:32,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 696 00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:34,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 697 00:50:34,460 --> 00:50:35,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more 698 00:50:35,460 --> 00:50:37,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: members of the minority 699 00:50:37,460 --> 00:50:39,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpolate, 700 00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:40,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate 701 00:50:40,460 --> 00:50:41,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the sponsorship 702 00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:42,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate 703 00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:43,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget 704 00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:44,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Zamboanga City 705 00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:46,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Special Economic Zone Authority. 706 00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:47,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, 707 00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:48,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker. 708 00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:49,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say? 709 00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:50,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 710 00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:51,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, 711 00:50:51,460 --> 00:50:53,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on the part of the majority, 712 00:50:53,460 --> 00:50:54,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: we join the minority 713 00:50:54,460 --> 00:50:55,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: in the motion 714 00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:56,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: to terminate the period 715 00:50:56,460 --> 00:50:57,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of interpellations 716 00:50:57,460 --> 00:50:58,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on the proposed budget 717 00:50:58,460 --> 00:50:59,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Zamboanga City 718 00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:02,460 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Special Economic Zone Authority. 719 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:03,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion 720 00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:05,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: to terminate the interpellations 721 00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:07,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget 722 00:51:07,460 --> 00:51:08,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Zamboanga City 723 00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:11,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Special Economic Zone Authority. 724 00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:12,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 725 00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:13,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 726 00:51:13,460 --> 00:51:15,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved. 727 00:51:15,460 --> 00:51:17,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations 728 00:51:17,460 --> 00:51:18,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget 729 00:51:18,460 --> 00:51:20,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Zamboanga City 730 00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:22,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Special Economic Zone Authority 731 00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:24,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated. 732 00:51:24,460 --> 00:51:25,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 733 00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:26,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 734 00:51:26,460 --> 00:51:28,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to consider 735 00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:29,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the proposed budget 736 00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:30,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Southern Philippines 737 00:51:30,460 --> 00:51:32,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Development Authority. 738 00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:34,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 739 00:51:34,460 --> 00:51:35,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 740 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:36,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved. 741 00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:38,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 742 00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:39,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 743 00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:40,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: may we acknowledge 744 00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:41,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the heads and officials 745 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:43,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Southern Philippines 746 00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:45,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Development Authority, 747 00:51:45,460 --> 00:51:49,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Vice Chairman 748 00:51:51,460 --> 00:51:54,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Honorable Ahmad Tumawis, 749 00:51:55,460 --> 00:51:59,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and Mr. Agakhan Tumawis. 750 00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:00,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family 751 00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:01,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Southern Philippines 752 00:52:01,460 --> 00:52:03,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Development Authority, 753 00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:05,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: headed by Administrator 754 00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:07,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Chief Executive Officer, 755 00:52:07,460 --> 00:52:10,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the Honorable Ahmad M. Tumawis, 756 00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:11,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House 757 00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:12,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Representatives. 758 00:52:12,460 --> 00:52:14,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 759 00:52:14,460 --> 00:52:15,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 760 00:52:15,460 --> 00:52:16,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move that we recognize 761 00:52:16,460 --> 00:52:20,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Vice Chair 762 00:52:20,460 --> 00:52:23,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Bella Vanessa B. Suansing 763 00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:24,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Committee 764 00:52:24,460 --> 00:52:25,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on Appropriation 765 00:52:25,460 --> 00:52:26,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to sponsor the proposed budget 766 00:52:26,460 --> 00:52:27,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Southern Philippines 767 00:52:27,460 --> 00:52:29,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Development Authority. 768 00:52:29,460 --> 00:52:31,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing 769 00:52:31,460 --> 00:52:33,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. 770 00:52:33,460 --> 00:52:34,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 771 00:52:34,460 --> 00:52:35,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 772 00:52:35,460 --> 00:52:36,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 773 00:52:36,460 --> 00:52:37,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This representation is ready 774 00:52:37,460 --> 00:52:38,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to answer questions 775 00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:39,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: regarding the proposed budget 776 00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:40,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the Southern Philippines 777 00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:41,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Development Authority. 778 00:52:41,460 --> 00:52:43,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 779 00:52:43,460 --> 00:52:44,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, 780 00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:45,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Honorable Swansing. 781 00:52:45,460 --> 00:52:46,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 782 00:52:46,460 --> 00:52:47,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 783 00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:49,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move that we recognize 784 00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:53,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Presley De Jesus 785 00:52:55,820 --> 00:52:58,580 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list 786 00:52:58,580 --> 00:52:58,960 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: PHILRECA, 787 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,000 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. 788 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:00,780 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 789 00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:02,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, 790 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members 791 00:53:04,780 --> 00:53:05,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority 792 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpolate, 793 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate 794 00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:09,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the sponsorship 795 00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:10,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate 796 00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:11,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget 797 00:53:11,860 --> 00:53:13,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Southern Philippines 798 00:53:13,180 --> 00:53:14,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Development Authority. 799 00:53:16,180 --> 00:53:17,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, 800 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker. 801 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,360 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say? 802 00:53:19,660 --> 00:53:20,400 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 803 00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:21,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, 804 00:53:21,460 --> 00:53:22,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part 805 00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:23,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the majority, 806 00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:24,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority 807 00:53:24,460 --> 00:53:25,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: in the motion 808 00:53:25,460 --> 00:53:26,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate 809 00:53:26,460 --> 00:53:27,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the period of interpellations 810 00:53:27,460 --> 00:53:28,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the proposed budget 811 00:53:28,460 --> 00:53:31,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Southern Philippines 812 00:53:31,460 --> 00:53:32,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Development Authority. 813 00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:33,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is 814 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:34,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: a joint motion 815 00:53:34,460 --> 00:53:35,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: to terminate 816 00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:36,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the interpellations 817 00:53:36,460 --> 00:53:37,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: in the proposed budget 818 00:53:37,460 --> 00:53:38,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Southern Philippines 819 00:53:38,460 --> 00:53:39,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Development Authority. 820 00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:41,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 821 00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:43,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 822 00:53:43,460 --> 00:53:44,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved. 823 00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:45,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations 824 00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:46,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and the proposed budget 825 00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:48,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Southern Philippines 826 00:53:48,460 --> 00:53:49,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Development Authority 827 00:53:49,460 --> 00:53:50,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated. 828 00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:52,460 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations. 829 00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:53,240 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 830 00:53:53,760 --> 00:54:00,140 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCC. 831 00:54:00,140 --> 00:54:05,440 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. Majority Leader. 832 00:54:06,260 --> 00:54:20,940 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and the officials of the Governance Commission for GOCC's Chairman Marius Corpus, Commissioner Brian Hosaka, Commissioner Geraldine Marie Martinez. 833 00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:35,800 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Governance Commission for GOCC's, headed by Chairperson Marius P. Corpus, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. 834 00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:49,340 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations to sponsor the budget of the Governance Commission for GOCC's. 835 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,140 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing. 836 00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:54,340 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. Please proceed. 837 00:54:54,780 --> 00:55:02,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This representation is ready to answer questions regarding the proposed budget of the Governance Commission on GOCC's. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 838 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,260 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Suansing. Majority Leader. 839 00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:08,020 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker. 840 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,090 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we suspend session for a few minutes. 841 00:55:30,130 --> 00:55:31,340 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is suspended. 842 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,660 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed. 843 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:00,400 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 844 00:56:01,020 --> 00:56:09,020 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation. 845 00:56:09,580 --> 00:56:14,340 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Partilis, Felrica is recognized. Please proceed. 846 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, good evening. 847 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:28,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Earlier this year, DBM issued Corporate Budget Memorandum No. 48 for the Fiscal Year 2027 Corporate Budget Call. 848 00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:31,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Under the policy, it was stated that the DBM should not be involved in corporate budget calls. 849 00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:51,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Under the policy, it was stated that a GOCC receiving 60% or more its funding from national government subsidies for the past 10 consecutive years is automatically flagged for mandatory institutional review for GOCCs covered by Republic Act No. 10149. 850 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:58,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That review is to be conducted by GCG. Is this correct, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor? 851 00:56:59,180 --> 00:57:00,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 852 00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:15,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And my follow-up question, then under those parameters, how many GOCCs under GCG's jurisdiction currently meet the 60% subsidy for 10 years threshold? 853 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The study is ongoing regarding the number, Mr. Speaker. 854 00:57:22,380 --> 00:57:26,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Are we talking about 2026? 855 00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:30,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Or 2025, I mean? I'm sorry. 856 00:57:50,740 --> 00:57:55,758 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The GCG is just checking their records, Mr. Speaker. 857 00:58:01,462 --> 00:58:01,833 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ... 858 00:58:31,020 --> 00:58:44,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The GCG will just submit the list of GOCCs that satisfy their requirement, Mr. Speaker. 859 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That's okay with my distinguished colleague. 860 00:58:47,460 --> 00:58:49,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Fair enough, Mr. Speaker. 861 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,720 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I gladly accept that. 862 00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:53,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My next question, 863 00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:01,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: have institutional reviews which are now mandated already commenced? 864 00:59:01,020 --> 00:59:03,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For every one of those GOCCs. 865 00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:07,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If not, what the timetables are we looking at? 866 00:59:31,020 --> 00:59:39,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Regarding the monitoring and evaluation of GOCCs, Mr. Speaker, the GCG currently conducts three. 867 00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:41,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, three. 868 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:48,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There's the performance evaluation system for GOCCs, and then there's the performance evaluation for directors in the GOCC sector. 869 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:54,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And then the GCG also produces corporate governance scorecards. 870 00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:59,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But as per the finalization of the reports for fiscal year 2020, 871 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the GCG is dependent on the submission of COA financial statement. 872 01:00:07,220 --> 01:00:10,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So as of now, review is still currently ongoing, Mr. Speaker. 873 01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:15,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So do we expect that later this year or it's going to be next year? 874 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:17,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, later in this year, Mr. Speaker. 875 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many directors are, as you mentioned, that under review? 876 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:22,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many of them? 877 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:54,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For, Mr. Speaker, for clarification, director, total directors for all the GOCCs that are being reviewed, total. 878 01:00:57,540 --> 01:00:59,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We're pulling up the actual number. 879 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So estimated around, approximately around 500 directors, Mr. Speaker. 880 01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:06,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor. 881 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:21,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, could the good sponsor provide the following information for the consideration of this body? 882 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:29,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The amount of national government support received by these GOCCs during the past 10 years, its performance, scorecard results, 883 01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:34,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the current status of GCG's institutional review. 884 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:46,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It's important because the new DBM policy says they are now subject to mandatory institutional review to be conducted by GCG. 885 01:01:48,380 --> 01:01:52,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi po, meron na pong DBM policy na bago ngayon. 886 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:58,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, just to clarify, the first would be the amount of government support received by the GOCCs. 887 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: What's the second one, Mr. Speaker? 888 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:08,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: No, that's the question because I'm just interjecting that there's a new DBM policy. 889 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:16,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, they have to be subjected for mandatory institutional review to be conducted by GCG. 890 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:21,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, sir. Government support. 891 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:28,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, sir. Government support. 892 01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:43,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, the GCG is just pulling up the actual number. 893 01:02:43,540 --> 01:02:48,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, just an overall observation regarding the amount of government support, 894 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:56,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's been declining given that those GOCCs that previously needed government support are now improving in performance. 895 01:02:57,140 --> 01:02:58,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you. 896 01:02:58,060 --> 01:02:58,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 897 01:03:04,220 --> 01:03:11,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: According to GCG's classification as of June 30, 2026, 898 01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:16,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there are 21 corporations classified under abolition, 899 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: meaning they are being considered for closure, 900 01:03:22,180 --> 01:03:26,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: winding down or absorption into other government corporations. 901 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:38,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: GCG was subsequently reported as saying that the Commission hopes to complete the liquidation of at least five of them within 2026. 902 01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:41,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is that still the target? 903 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:44,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 904 01:03:44,780 --> 01:03:46,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, that is correct. 905 01:03:46,420 --> 01:03:55,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As of June 30, there are 21 GOCCs that have been abolished and under liquidation. 906 01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:56,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And there's also... 907 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And there's also 11 that has been abolished and completed liquidation. 908 01:03:59,380 --> 01:04:08,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the number of GOCCs with terminal reports to be submitted to the Office of the President, 909 01:04:08,540 --> 01:04:10,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there are 11 for this year. 910 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:11,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 911 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:11,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah. 912 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, this is your sponsor. 913 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Without prejudice to the non-disclosure, 914 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: may din nyo bangbanggitin kung sino mo ito or it's going under review pa rin? 915 01:04:23,020 --> 01:04:26,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Or if not, you can submit to this... 916 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to this body kung sino yung mga yon. 917 01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:38,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If you think it's going to be a violation of any rules or guidelines under GCG. 918 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Oh, sorry. 919 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I stand corrected, Mr. Speaker. 920 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:53,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The number of abolished GOCCs pipeline for terminal report in 2026 is actually five. 921 01:04:54,380 --> 01:04:54,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah. 922 01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:55,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But... 923 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:55,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But... 924 01:04:55,780 --> 01:04:59,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's why I was mentioned a while ago that there are still five. 925 01:04:59,740 --> 01:05:02,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's why for my next question, 926 01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:07,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that means even five are completed this year. 927 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: A significant number will still remain under abolition status. 928 01:05:12,140 --> 01:05:17,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For how long has each of these 21 corporations been under abolition? 929 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:57,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Um, Mr. Speaker, given the extensive process of settling the obligations and liabilities of those GOCCs 930 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:20,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Those GOCCs that are non-performing, as well as the fulfillment of compromise agreements, it's a lengthy period. As early as 2013, there are still GOCCs that are being processed. So, roughly around 13 years. 931 01:06:21,460 --> 01:06:28,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah, Mr. Speaker. For the information of everyone, GOCC stands for government-owned controlled corporation. 932 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:46,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? And they're not asking subsidy or funding from our government, only GCG. Now, because my understanding, when you're a GOCC, you generate income. Am I right? 933 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 934 01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:49,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 935 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:58,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, how come those 5 or 21 you mentioned, Wilco, are winding down or for abolition? Ibig ho bang sabihin? 936 01:06:59,020 --> 01:07:03,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Nalulugi, hindi sila kumikita, or part of downsizing talaga? 937 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:18,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, based on the charter of the GCG and all of its guidelines, there are six qualifications for the recommendation of this positive action. 938 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:26,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: One, the GOCC's function is no longer relevant to state or national development policy. 939 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Second, it... 940 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:33,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's duplicate or unnecessarily overlaps with other government agencies. 941 01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:40,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The third one, the GOCC is not producing desired outcomes or is no longer achieving its objectives, as stated. 942 01:07:40,980 --> 01:07:45,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The fourth would be, the GOCC would be dormant or non-operational. 943 01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:57,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The fifth would be, the GOCC would be involved in activities that is determined to be best carried out by a private sector firm. 944 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:04,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And the sixth one would be, the GOCC's nature of operations would require consolidation under a holding company. 945 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, those are the six qualifications for recommendation for abolition, Mr. Speaker. 946 01:08:09,420 --> 01:08:16,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The number five, or I think number five, you mentioned number four, that is going to be sold to private. 947 01:08:16,820 --> 01:08:18,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is that what I understand? 948 01:08:18,460 --> 01:08:19,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Tama ba yun? Intindi ko? 949 01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:21,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Uh, there... 950 01:08:23,060 --> 01:08:26,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 951 01:08:26,540 --> 01:08:26,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 952 01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:47,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The fifth one, Mr. Speaker, the GCG assesses and sees if the activity in which the GOCC is involved would be best carried out by a private sector firm. 953 01:08:48,820 --> 01:08:54,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, when you say best carried out by a private firm, what does it mean? 954 01:08:54,260 --> 01:08:57,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Are we going to sell it or just going to give it away? 955 01:08:57,660 --> 01:08:58,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anong bang... 956 01:08:58,440 --> 01:09:03,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang tindi sa private firm will just be carried away. 957 01:09:04,260 --> 01:09:05,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It will be carried out. 958 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:18,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 959 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:37,770 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] 960 01:09:38,430 --> 01:09:39,550 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] 961 01:09:50,650 --> 01:09:52,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] 962 01:10:07,690 --> 01:10:11,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, regarding abolition, 963 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if the 964 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particular GOCC would be 965 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: recommended for abolition, 966 01:10:17,180 --> 01:10:18,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's usually 967 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the 968 01:10:19,460 --> 01:10:22,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: employees, the assets, 969 01:10:22,180 --> 01:10:23,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and all the operations would be 970 01:10:23,940 --> 01:10:26,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: absorbed by the government 971 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: agency, like a relevant government 972 01:10:27,940 --> 01:10:29,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: agency, with related 973 01:10:29,980 --> 01:10:32,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: operations to the GOCC for abolition. 974 01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:33,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 975 01:10:33,620 --> 01:10:35,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, I agree with that. 976 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But again, I'm just going to stick 977 01:10:37,740 --> 01:10:39,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the number five, that you're private. 978 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,040 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Papasok ba? Bibiling ba nila? 979 01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:43,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mamimigay ba natin? 980 01:10:44,260 --> 01:10:45,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Remember you mentioned number five. 981 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So I'm just curious 982 01:10:47,260 --> 01:10:49,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: about the number five. When you say 983 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: private firm 984 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is carrying it out 985 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or taking over, ano ba? 986 01:10:55,580 --> 01:10:57,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi doon lang medyo 987 01:10:57,180 --> 01:10:59,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nalilito ako. Just enlighten me 988 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pagdating dyan. Ano ba talagang 989 01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:03,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: issue doon? Talaga bang, kasi 990 01:11:03,580 --> 01:11:04,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: when you mention five, 991 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: private, you mentioned private 992 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: firm. 993 01:11:27,180 --> 01:11:29,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, 994 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to further 995 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: enhance the details that were mentioned. 996 01:11:34,740 --> 01:11:34,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, 997 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if there is 998 01:11:37,660 --> 01:11:39,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: an observation on the part of the 999 01:11:39,860 --> 01:11:41,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: GCG that a GOCC 1000 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is non-operating 1001 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or 1002 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is failing to 1003 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: meet objectives, then 1004 01:11:49,660 --> 01:11:51,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it assesses 1005 01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:53,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and then it evaluates whether 1006 01:11:53,180 --> 01:11:55,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it should recommend for abolition, 1007 01:11:56,340 --> 01:11:57,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: recommend for merger, 1008 01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:59,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or recommend for 1009 01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:01,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: privatization. So, strictly for 1010 01:12:01,340 --> 01:12:02,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: abolition, most of the time, 1011 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: what happens is, if the GOCC 1012 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is recommended for abolition, 1013 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then the operations 1014 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and employees and all of the assets 1015 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: get 1016 01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:15,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: absorbed by a government 1017 01:12:15,260 --> 01:12:16,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: agency that has related 1018 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: operations to what the 1019 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: GOCC used to do. 1020 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. 1021 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Remember, for 1022 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: every year or every day, the process 1023 01:12:27,180 --> 01:12:28,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: remains unfinished. 1024 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What costs continue 1025 01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:32,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to be borne by government? 1026 01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:34,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Personal costs, 1027 01:12:35,180 --> 01:12:36,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: administrative expenses, 1028 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: liabilities, asset maintenance 1029 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: costs, legal expenses, 1030 01:12:41,980 --> 01:12:42,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or other obligations. 1031 01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:45,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, can the good sponsor 1032 01:12:45,580 --> 01:12:47,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: quantify the 1033 01:12:47,300 --> 01:12:49,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: annual cost of keeping these 1034 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: corporations legally 1035 01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:51,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or 1036 01:12:51,940 --> 01:12:54,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: administratively alive? 1037 01:12:54,820 --> 01:12:56,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Even just an estimate, 1038 01:12:57,180 --> 01:12:58,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: where they are supposedly 1039 01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:00,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: already being 1040 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: abolished. 1041 01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:19,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, once a GOCC 1042 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is recommended for abolition, 1043 01:14:21,700 --> 01:14:23,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it stops receiving 1044 01:14:23,140 --> 01:14:25,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: any government subsidy from 1045 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the national government. 1046 01:14:27,180 --> 01:14:29,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, in terms of 1047 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: additional 1048 01:14:31,140 --> 01:14:33,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: expenses on the part of the 1049 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: national government, for those that are still 1050 01:14:35,060 --> 01:14:37,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: pending abolition, there are none. 1051 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:38,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 1052 01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:41,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm glad that you said, Mr. Speaker, that 1053 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there will be no more subsidies 1054 01:14:42,740 --> 01:14:44,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as long as they're under 1055 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: abolition. What happens to 1056 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the employees? 1057 01:14:48,540 --> 01:14:50,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Are they absorbed immediately or are they still there? 1058 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because if they're still there, 1059 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:53,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it will incur 1060 01:14:53,860 --> 01:14:56,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: expenses for the salaries, 1061 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so once under 1062 01:14:59,060 --> 01:14:59,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: abolition, 1063 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pending, 1064 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:02,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: lilipat na ba sila? 1065 01:15:54,290 --> 01:16:02,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, for those employees who will not be absorbed 1066 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:03,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by, let's say, a 1067 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: government agency, 1068 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they're given separation incentive pay, 1069 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and then those who are needed 1070 01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:11,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the safekeeping 1071 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:14,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and for the processing of the abolition, 1072 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they're maintained by the corporation. 1073 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:19,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 1074 01:16:20,860 --> 01:16:22,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Fair enough, Mr. Speaker. 1075 01:16:23,300 --> 01:16:23,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, 1076 01:16:24,940 --> 01:16:26,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: those 21 cases 1077 01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:27,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for disposal 1078 01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:29,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or under abolition 1079 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano action required 1080 01:16:33,460 --> 01:16:34,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for another agency? 1081 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Settlement of liabilities, 1082 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:38,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: litigation, 1083 01:16:38,620 --> 01:16:40,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I know there's legal processes, no? 1084 01:16:41,260 --> 01:16:44,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam naman natin may mga legal impediments to. 1085 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, do we expect that 21 1086 01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:50,480 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: under abolition 1087 01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:52,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will be done 1088 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this year 1089 01:16:53,660 --> 01:16:55,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or it will take another year? 1090 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:16,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, 1091 01:17:16,300 --> 01:17:17,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for 2026, 1092 01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:20,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: those that are pipelined for terminal report 1093 01:17:20,140 --> 01:17:21,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be 5. 1094 01:17:21,700 --> 01:17:22,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that would remain, 1095 01:17:22,780 --> 01:17:23,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the 16 remaining. 1096 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:25,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the 16 remaining 1097 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: GOCCs for abolition, 1098 01:17:29,300 --> 01:17:29,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the, 1099 01:17:29,660 --> 01:17:30,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the GCG 1100 01:17:30,660 --> 01:17:32,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: established the 1101 01:17:32,820 --> 01:17:33,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: disposition and 1102 01:17:33,940 --> 01:17:35,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: asset management office 1103 01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:37,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to further expedite 1104 01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:39,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the abolition of these 1105 01:17:39,340 --> 01:17:41,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 16 remaining GOCCs. 1106 01:17:42,060 --> 01:17:42,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker. 1107 01:17:42,740 --> 01:17:43,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, it's going to handle 1108 01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:46,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by the asset management office? 1109 01:17:46,220 --> 01:17:46,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 1110 01:17:47,260 --> 01:17:48,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, fair enough. 1111 01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:50,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In connection with that, 1112 01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:51,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I would like to ask GCG 1113 01:17:52,220 --> 01:17:53,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: what precisely makes 1114 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: a GOCC 1115 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sufficiently non-performing 1116 01:17:57,660 --> 01:17:59,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to warrant 1117 01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:59,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the abolition 1118 01:17:59,660 --> 01:18:00,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of that action 1119 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to classify them 1120 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for winding up? 1121 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is there an objective threshold? 1122 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is there a criteria? 1123 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:07,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah. 1124 01:19:11,540 --> 01:19:23,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, the GCG uses the Corporate Governance Scorecard and the Performance Evaluation Scorecard. 1125 01:19:23,940 --> 01:19:35,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, consistent failure in these key performance indicators would constitute a review by the GCG with regards to the abolition, Mr. Speaker. 1126 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:40,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That was a good answer. That's why my next question is about the scorecard. 1127 01:19:41,820 --> 01:19:45,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you for that information, Mr. Speaker, the single sponsor. 1128 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:52,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, if a GOCC consistently fails its target, what happens to the board? 1129 01:19:52,860 --> 01:19:54,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm talking of the board of the GOCC. 1130 01:19:55,420 --> 01:20:06,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In other words, is poor performance merely recorded on a scoreboard, or does the scoreboard actually produce governance consequences? 1131 01:20:37,980 --> 01:20:41,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] 1132 01:20:42,350 --> 01:20:43,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] 1133 01:21:04,650 --> 01:21:06,240 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, 1134 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to 1135 01:21:08,380 --> 01:21:10,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: whether there are consistent 1136 01:21:10,940 --> 01:21:13,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: underperformance in the 1137 01:21:13,020 --> 01:21:14,880 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: scorecard, if it's the GOCC, 1138 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:16,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then 1139 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if the GOCC continually 1140 01:21:18,980 --> 01:21:21,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: underperforms, 1141 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then the GCG can 1142 01:21:23,540 --> 01:21:24,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: review and evaluate 1143 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it for abolition. 1144 01:21:27,260 --> 01:21:29,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to the 1145 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Board of Directors, because 1146 01:21:31,420 --> 01:21:33,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we also have performance 1147 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: evaluation for directors, 1148 01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:35,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if 1149 01:21:35,740 --> 01:21:39,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: an appointed director 1150 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: receives less 1151 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:43,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: than 85% in the 1152 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: performance scorecard, 1153 01:21:45,380 --> 01:21:47,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it won't be qualified 1154 01:21:47,620 --> 01:21:49,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to be included in the shortlist of nominees 1155 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for succeeding terms of office, meaning 1156 01:21:51,260 --> 01:21:52,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: cannot be issued 1157 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: reappointment, Mr. Speaker. 1158 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I like that. 1159 01:21:57,740 --> 01:21:59,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 85%. Maganda yan. 1160 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, again, thank you 1161 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for my closing statement. 1162 01:22:03,460 --> 01:22:04,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you for that, 1163 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. 1164 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I hope the commitments that we received 1165 01:22:09,260 --> 01:22:11,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: from the GCG will actually 1166 01:22:11,420 --> 01:22:13,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: translate into measurable results 1167 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that perhaps we can revisit 1168 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:16,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in the next budget cycle. 1169 01:22:16,980 --> 01:22:18,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: As you know, 1170 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, ang GCG po ay 1171 01:22:21,260 --> 01:22:22,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ay hindi basta-basta trabaho. 1172 01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:24,900 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They oversee 1173 01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:26,620 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: several 1174 01:22:26,620 --> 01:22:29,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: GOCC, no? Para pong 1175 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nagbantay sila ng top 1176 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 100 corporations. Napakahirap po 1177 01:22:33,340 --> 01:22:35,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ng kanilang trabaho. That's why 1178 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I support the budget of GCG. 1179 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang sabi nga nila dyan, 1180 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:41,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: konti 1181 01:22:41,420 --> 01:22:43,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ang suweldo, 1182 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: maraming trabaho. Again, thank you very much, 1183 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:46,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker. 1184 01:22:48,140 --> 01:22:49,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Sponsor, and to 1185 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:50,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the rest of the family of GCG. 1186 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable De Jesus, 1187 01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:54,140 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 1188 01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:58,100 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize 1189 01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:00,560 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Elijah San Fernando 1190 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,760 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for his interpellation. 1191 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,020 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Elijah San Fernando 1192 01:23:04,020 --> 01:23:06,400 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Party-list Kamanggagawa is recognized. 1193 01:23:06,620 --> 01:23:07,120 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 1194 01:23:07,380 --> 01:23:09,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker, 1195 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa ating kaibigan, kagalang-galang 1196 01:23:11,740 --> 01:23:13,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na Bella Suansing, 1197 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sponsor, at sa mga kasama po natin 1198 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa GCG, magandang gabi po sa inyo. 1199 01:23:18,580 --> 01:23:19,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Meron lamang pong ilang mga 1200 01:23:19,940 --> 01:23:21,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: katanungan, 1201 01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:21,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: paglilinaw. 1202 01:23:23,620 --> 01:23:25,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Noong June 6, 1203 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:27,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 2011 po, 1204 01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:29,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay naging batas yung 1205 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: RA number 10149 1206 01:23:31,480 --> 01:23:33,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nagbubuo na po sa 1207 01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:35,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Governance Commission for 1208 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: GOCCs. At 1209 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasabay nito ay ang pagkakaroon din 1210 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:40,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng 1211 01:23:40,460 --> 01:23:43,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: tinatawag nating Compensation 1212 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Position Classification System 1213 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o CPCS 1214 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para sa lahat 1215 01:23:49,480 --> 01:23:50,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga GOCCs and 1216 01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:53,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: GFIs, chartered 1217 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o hindi. Para lang po 1218 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: maunawaan ng ating 1219 01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:58,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kaibigan na sponsor, 1220 01:23:59,220 --> 01:24:01,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so prior po sa pagkakaroon 1221 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng batas noong 2011, 1222 01:24:04,220 --> 01:24:04,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so yung mga 1223 01:24:04,900 --> 01:24:07,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: manggagawa sa mga GOCCs and 1224 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: GFIs, so may mga 1225 01:24:09,020 --> 01:24:11,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: gratuity na yan na natatanggap. 1226 01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:13,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: May mga allowances, benefits, 1227 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:14,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and incentives. 1228 01:24:15,180 --> 01:24:17,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero yung ibang GOCCs, dahil 1229 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nga hindi pa standard at 1230 01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:20,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that time, so iba-iba yan. 1231 01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:23,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Matatanggap. So the intention 1232 01:24:23,180 --> 01:24:24,720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the law is actually good. 1233 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:27,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yung pagkabuo ng 1234 01:24:27,380 --> 01:24:29,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: CPCS na 1235 01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:31,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: tinatawag. Pero malinaw 1236 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa Section 11, Mr. Speaker, 1237 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Distinguished Sponsor, 1238 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:36,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that 1239 01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:39,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this particular section expressly 1240 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:40,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bars 1241 01:24:40,260 --> 01:24:42,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: diminution of authorized 1242 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: salaries as of 1243 01:24:45,140 --> 01:24:47,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: December 31, 2010 1244 01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:48,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for incumbents. 1245 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:49,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And I quote, 1246 01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:52,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that in no case 1247 01:24:52,380 --> 01:24:54,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: shall there be any diminution 1248 01:24:54,900 --> 01:24:56,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in the authorized 1249 01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: salaries as of 1250 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: December 31, 2010. 1251 01:25:02,020 --> 01:25:03,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So yun po yung progression, 1252 01:25:03,260 --> 01:25:05,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bago magkaroon ng batas, 1253 01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at nagkaroon ng batas, at malinaw 1254 01:25:07,140 --> 01:25:08,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakasulat sa Section 11, hindi 1255 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: maaaring magkaroon ng pagbaba. 1256 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:12,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So yun yung non-diminution 1257 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of benefits na tinatawag. 1258 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, on October 1259 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 1, 2021, 1260 01:25:19,100 --> 01:25:19,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: then, 1261 01:25:21,100 --> 01:25:23,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: President Duterte issued 1262 01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:24,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Executive Order No. 1263 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:26,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 150. 1264 01:25:27,460 --> 01:25:29,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And this Executive 1265 01:25:29,180 --> 01:25:31,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Order approves 1266 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: CPCS 1. 1267 01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:35,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon, medyo problematic 1268 01:25:35,220 --> 01:25:36,780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na po itong CPCS 1. 1269 01:25:37,420 --> 01:25:39,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So susundan po natin, the intention 1270 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the law ay maganda 1271 01:25:40,860 --> 01:25:42,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para magkaroon ng standard 1272 01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:45,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa mga manggagawa sa GOCCs 1273 01:25:45,380 --> 01:25:46,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and GFIs. 1274 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:48,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tas malinaw sa Section 11, 1275 01:25:48,740 --> 01:25:50,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bawal mabawasan yung mga benepisyon nila. 1276 01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:52,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, come 2021, 1277 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: naglabas ngayon ng Executive 1278 01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Order, kung saan 1279 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pinipigilan na 1280 01:25:59,060 --> 01:26:01,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga GOCC 1281 01:26:01,220 --> 01:26:03,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: boards from 1282 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: negotiating collective 1283 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: negotiation agreements 1284 01:26:06,380 --> 01:26:08,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or CBA terms. 1285 01:26:10,340 --> 01:26:10,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos, 1286 01:26:11,180 --> 01:26:13,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung nandun pa rin 1287 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung pagsa-standardize ng compensation, 1288 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:16,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pero 1289 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na-disallow na yung 1290 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mga bayad, 1291 01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:23,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: outside CPCS, 1292 01:26:24,140 --> 01:26:25,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: absent presidential 1293 01:26:25,460 --> 01:26:26,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: approval. 1294 01:26:27,940 --> 01:26:29,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So kung masusundan po natin, 1295 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: before, nakakatanggap na sila ng mga benefits, 1296 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mga allowances and incentives, 1297 01:26:34,780 --> 01:26:35,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: tapos 1298 01:26:35,260 --> 01:26:37,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in-standardize siya, and then come 1299 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: EO 150, 1300 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:41,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: without 1301 01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:42,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the presidential approval, 1302 01:26:44,220 --> 01:26:45,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi na sila makakatanggap 1303 01:26:45,420 --> 01:26:47,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga ganitong gratuity pay. 1304 01:26:49,020 --> 01:26:49,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos, 1305 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:50,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sinubject yung provident 1306 01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:51,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: fund 1307 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: contribution 1308 01:26:52,420 --> 01:26:54,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to rationalization. 1309 01:26:55,380 --> 01:26:55,720 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, 1310 01:26:55,820 --> 01:26:57,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: tinutulan ito ng mga manggagawa 1311 01:26:57,540 --> 01:26:59,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa GOCCs and GFIs. 1312 01:26:59,820 --> 01:27:00,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi we have to take note, 1313 01:27:00,980 --> 01:27:03,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga manggagawa natin sa GOCCs and GFIs, 1314 01:27:03,820 --> 01:27:05,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: highly technical itong mga ito, 1315 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:05,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: highly skilled. 1316 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:07,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, kung baga, 1317 01:27:07,300 --> 01:27:09,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: insentibo ito para manatili sila 1318 01:27:09,140 --> 01:27:11,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa mga government financial institutions, 1319 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasi kung pangit naman 1320 01:27:13,340 --> 01:27:15,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung package na inooffer ng mga 1321 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: GOCCs and GFIs, 1322 01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:18,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: eh ba't magtatrabaho dyan yung mga manggagawa? 1323 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So that is the purpose. 1324 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, kaya tinutulan itong CPCS-1. 1325 01:27:22,780 --> 01:27:24,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, there were many 1326 01:27:24,180 --> 01:27:25,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mobilizations 1327 01:27:25,420 --> 01:27:28,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para tutulan itong CPCS-1. 1328 01:27:28,940 --> 01:27:30,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And the promise back then is 1329 01:27:30,460 --> 01:27:32,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: i-review itong CPCS-1, 1330 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung EO-150. 1331 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:36,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi malakas yung clamor, 1332 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung pushback ng mga manggagawa na 1333 01:27:38,060 --> 01:27:40,280 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: eh bakit nyo naman babawasan yung 1334 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: natatanggap na naming mga benepisyo? 1335 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And so the response to CPCS-1 1336 01:27:44,980 --> 01:27:46,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is CPCS-2. 1337 01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:47,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, 1338 01:27:47,940 --> 01:27:50,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ito yung nilabas ni Pangulong 1339 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Bongbong Marcos 1340 01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:53,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: noong September 16, 2025 1341 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: through Executive Order 1342 01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:57,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: No. 95 1343 01:27:58,720 --> 01:27:59,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: expressly 1344 01:28:00,620 --> 01:28:01,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: repealing EO-150. 1345 01:28:03,940 --> 01:28:06,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang problema dito sa CPCS-2, 1346 01:28:06,300 --> 01:28:07,700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, 1347 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi niya niresolba yung problema 1348 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng CPCS-1. 1349 01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:13,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Bakit hindi niya niresolba? 1350 01:28:14,260 --> 01:28:15,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, Madam Sponsor, 1351 01:28:15,740 --> 01:28:16,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nanatili pa rin 1352 01:28:16,980 --> 01:28:20,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung CNA-CBA Negotiation Ban 1353 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:21,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nandun pa rin yung 1354 01:28:21,940 --> 01:28:23,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pagra-rationalize, quote-unquote, 1355 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa Provident Funds 1356 01:28:26,540 --> 01:28:27,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and it has a 1357 01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:29,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pivotal new feature. 1358 01:28:31,060 --> 01:28:32,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: It converts 1359 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: previously authorized 1360 01:28:33,980 --> 01:28:34,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: allowances, 1361 01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:37,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: benefits, and incentives, 1362 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:38,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ABIs, 1363 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: into a one-time three-year present value 1364 01:28:42,020 --> 01:28:42,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: cash payout. 1365 01:28:44,780 --> 01:28:45,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kung merong regression, 1366 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: merong, kumbaga, rollback ito eh. 1367 01:28:49,020 --> 01:28:49,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, instead na 1368 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nakukuha nila yung ABIs, 1369 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga manggagawa sa GOCCs and GFIs, 1370 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:55,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang nangyari ay 1371 01:28:55,540 --> 01:28:57,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: one-time 1372 01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: cash payout, after which 1373 01:28:59,820 --> 01:29:01,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: they are discontinued. 1374 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:03,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama po ba itong 1375 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pagkakalahad ng mga facts nito, 1376 01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:07,400 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker? 1377 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maandar po yung time ko, 1378 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:51,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker. 1379 01:31:07,630 --> 01:31:08,860 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is suspended. 1380 01:34:08,260 --> 01:34:09,430 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed. 1381 01:34:11,540 --> 01:34:30,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, as for the GCG, this is a mere transitory provision. From CPCS 1, the three-year present value of the discontinued allowances, benefits, and incentives 1382 01:34:30,000 --> 01:35:04,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: were paid over three tranches for three years during this transitory period. But at the same time, tumaas din po, as per the GCG, yung monthly basic compensation. Besides the tranches na payout, tumaas din yung monthly basic compensation para maging mas at par sa private sector, Mr. Speaker. 1383 01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:30,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you, Madam Sponsor. In fact, merong mga tumaas pagdating sa allowances, benefits, and incentives; merong mga nabigyan kasi before wala yung iba. In-standardize sa CPCS 1, CPCS 2, pero ang daming problematic provisions at may pushback yung workers in GFIs. 1384 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:59,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, Madam Sponsor, bago pa man nagkaroon ng batas na bumuo sa GCG at bago CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, may mga manggagawa sa GFIs na nag-e-enjoy na ng iba?t ibang allowances, benefits, and incentives. 1385 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:29,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: For example, Pag-IBIG educational assistance and provident fund traced to board resolutions from 1986 and 1994. PDIC has 2011 payroll records, the year RA 10149 was passed, showing 14th-month pay and provident fund contributions. SSS PRAISE program disbursing 1386 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:59,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 434.805 million in incentives in 2024 was reviewed and approved by the Civil Service Commission in June 2024. Dahil sa CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, may mga benepisyong nawala o nabawasan sa mga manggagawa sa GFIs. 1387 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:29,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa provident fund, some were enjoying 40% employer share, pero dahil sa CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, 10% na lang. Iyan ang malaking problema. Madam Sponsor, let us establish a basic principle of law. 1388 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:59,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang Republic Act 10149, GOCC Governance Act, ay pinasa noong 2011, a general law for standardization of GOCCs. Fast forward to 2019, ipinasa ng Kongreso ang RA 11199, Social Security Act of 2018, isang specific law. 1389 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:29,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Section 3(d) gave the Social Security Commission power to fix reasonable compensation, allowances, and benefits of its personnel. Ngayon ginagamit ng GCG yung CPCS 2 na inilabas noong 2025 1390 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:59,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para i-override at tanggalin ang mga benepisyong ito. In constant communication ako sa union ng SSS. So alin ang mas mataas, Madam Sponsor, isang batas na pinasa ng Kongreso o isang executive order 1391 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,970 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nanggaling sa Office of the President, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker? 1392 01:39:03,790 --> 01:39:06,810 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] 1393 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, yung time ko po pumapatak. 1394 01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:40,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pumapatak po yung time ko. 1395 01:39:41,500 --> 01:39:42,300 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Timer, please. 1396 01:40:57,780 --> 01:40:58,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] 1397 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:29,610 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear] 1398 01:41:30,510 --> 01:41:36,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, Section 11 of RA 10149, if I may read, 1399 01:41:37,060 --> 01:41:41,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Compensation and Position Classification System, so CPCS, 1400 01:41:42,860 --> 01:41:46,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to be developed and recommended by the GCG as approved by the President 1401 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: shall apply to all positions on full or part-time basis now existing 1402 01:41:49,780 --> 01:41:52,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or hereafter created in the GOCC, 1403 01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:57,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: provided that in no case shall there be any diminution in the authorized salaries 1404 01:41:57,480 --> 01:41:59,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as of December 31, 2010. 1405 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:07,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Of incumbent employees of the GOCCs, including those exempt under RA 6758 as amended 1406 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: upon the implementation of the CPCS for GOCCs. 1407 01:42:10,980 --> 01:42:14,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, dapat ang nagpe-prevail po talaga ay ano? 1408 01:42:15,260 --> 01:42:16,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 10149, Mr. Speaker. 1409 01:42:17,380 --> 01:42:19,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ay, dapat ang nagpe-prevail ay yung? 1410 01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:21,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 10149, Mr. Speaker. 1411 01:42:21,780 --> 01:42:29,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, in statutory construction, the specific and later law prevails over a general and earlier law. 1412 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:39,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, given that RA 11199, 2019, is both the later law and the specific charter for SSS, 1413 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:45,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po dapat ito ang mas masunod kaysa sa general framework ng RA 10149? 1414 01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:55,920 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Actually, ang basis yung executive order eh. 1415 01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:58,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ano pong authority? 1416 01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:06,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang ginagamit ng GCG to use an executive order 1417 01:43:06,060 --> 01:43:13,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to execute an implied administrative repeal of a specific act of Congress. 1418 01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:19,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ibig sabihin po ba nito, mas mataas na ang GCG kaysa sa Kongreso? 1419 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi yun po ang efekte. 1420 01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:48,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, there was no express repeal of this section under the Social Security Law. So this would still prevail. 1421 01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:58,780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, tinitindigan po ng GCG na through the executive order, eh pinangingibabawan niya. 1422 01:43:58,880 --> 01:43:59,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Halimbawa, yun dito sa... 1423 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:06,040 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi dun sa case ng SSS, na batas na ginawa, 1424 01:44:07,380 --> 01:44:15,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: binigyan ng kapangyarihan ang SSS na i-determine yung compensation for the workers, for its workers. 1425 01:44:16,500 --> 01:44:21,320 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And now, GCG is saying, hindi, mas mataas itong RA 10149. 1426 01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:27,240 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, paano ngayon natin i-reconcile yun, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor? 1427 01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:31,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Oh, yeah. 1428 01:44:33,020 --> 01:44:36,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given that there is no, but as for the GCG, 1429 01:44:36,420 --> 01:44:44,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given that there is no express repeal of RA 10149 under the Social Security Law, 1430 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:45,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it would still prevail. 1431 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:51,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Though, again, the GCG would submit to the wisdom of Congress if we need to amend. 1432 01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:58,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Because under Section 11, nakaprovide po dito yung, as approved by the President. 1433 01:44:59,340 --> 01:44:59,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So... 1434 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:13,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, big sabihin, si GCG magre-rely ngayon sa sabihin ng Presidente, even though the law is very clear. 1435 01:45:14,260 --> 01:45:19,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, yan po yung kinagagalitan ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs. 1436 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:27,600 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And I believe the GCG is open for further dialogue regarding this matter, Madam Sponsor. 1437 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Because we really have to clarify this. 1438 01:45:30,580 --> 01:45:47,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, Madam Sponsor, ilapag po natin ang mga katotohanan dahil hindi pwedeng ginagamit ng GCG ang salitang standardization bilang lisensya para agawin. 1439 01:45:47,580 --> 01:45:52,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Actually, pag-agaw yun eh. Yun yung principle of non-diminution of benefits. Ibinigay na. 1440 01:45:53,780 --> 01:45:57,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang mga karapatang dekada ng pinakikinabangan ng mga manggagawa. 1441 01:45:58,180 --> 01:45:59,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ito po yung binabanggit ko kanina. 1442 01:46:00,580 --> 01:46:07,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Records clearly show that Pag-ibig has provided an educational assistance benefit since 1986 1443 01:46:07,740 --> 01:46:20,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and a provident fund with a 45% employer counterpart that was explicitly approved by the President back in 1994. 1444 01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:25,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa PDIC naman, malinaw sa 2011 payrolls nila, 1445 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:37,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the exact same year, RA 10149 was passed, na tumatanggap na ang mga empleyado nila ng 14th month pay and medical allowances. 1446 01:46:38,500 --> 01:46:47,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, because of the existence, itong pinag-uusapan natin na CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, yan po yung mga nawala. 1447 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang daming nawala eh sa mga manggagawa sa GFIs. 1448 01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:54,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And in fact, if you are going to ask workers in the GFIs, 1449 01:46:55,800 --> 01:47:00,340 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: isa lang sinasabi nila, ayaw namin itong CPCS 1 and CPCS 2. 1450 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:07,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, Madam Sponsor, these provident funds were legally established decades before. 1451 01:47:07,500 --> 01:47:10,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, wala pa ng GCG, meron ng provident fund. 1452 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At meron ng arrangement, 45% nga in an example eh. 1453 01:47:15,540 --> 01:47:19,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, complete with presidential and statutory backing. 1454 01:47:19,300 --> 01:47:25,260 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, bakit pilit pinapatay ng GCG ang ipo ng mga manggagawa? 1455 01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:38,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang ibig sabihin po ba ng standardization for GCG ay katumbas ng diminution? 1456 01:47:38,900 --> 01:47:41,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Definitely, alam ko po, sasabihin ng GCG, hindi. 1457 01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:43,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: But that is the effect. 1458 01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:44,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you. 1459 01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:35,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, well, as for the GCG, well, yung, this would be compensated by the monthly, 1460 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like the higher monthly compensation. 1461 01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:46,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yun. Medyo hindi po katanggap-tanggap yung sagot ng GCG that it will be compensated by higher or whatever. 1462 01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:52,660 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi nga, matagal na itong ini-enjoy ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs. 1463 01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In the section 11 nga, 1464 01:48:55,800 --> 01:49:08,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, papaano ngayon yan, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker? 1465 01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:17,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi mukhang tinitindigan pa rin ng GCG na okay lang na ang daming nawalang mga abis, 1466 01:49:18,140 --> 01:49:21,380 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang daming mga nawalang mga ini-enjoy na ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs. 1467 01:49:21,380 --> 01:49:25,780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, they are actually listening sa conversation po. 1468 01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:27,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, natin nga yun, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker. 1469 01:49:28,540 --> 01:49:37,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, can the GCG commit today that they will respect the vested rights of these employees 1470 01:49:37,020 --> 01:49:45,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and immediately approve the reinstatement requests for these provident funds pending the resolution? 1471 01:49:45,420 --> 01:49:54,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kung meron mang mga legal battles, makukuha rin ba namin ang commitment ng GCG na makipagpulong po sa mga manggagawa ng GFIs? 1472 01:49:55,800 --> 01:50:01,900 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi sila po ang ultimate beneficiary and casualty of what we are talking about right now. 1473 01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ang gusto po ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs ay kalinawan. 1474 01:50:06,780 --> 01:50:11,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, will we get that commitment from GCG, Madam Sponsor? 1475 01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:13,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 1476 01:50:14,340 --> 01:50:18,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The GCG is, well, upon the assurance of our good chairperson, 1477 01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:24,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is willing also to present the data that they've run assessments, 1478 01:50:24,540 --> 01:50:25,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they've arrived at... 1479 01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:31,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: different numbers that give justification to their stance. 1480 01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:36,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But, of course, with the help, of course, of my distinguished colleague, 1481 01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable San Fernando, personally this representation, 1482 01:50:39,980 --> 01:50:44,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: let's facilitate the dialogue between the GCG and our members from the Labor Center. 1483 01:50:44,820 --> 01:50:50,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you very much to my good friend, the sponsor, Congresswoman Bella Swan Singh. 1484 01:50:51,260 --> 01:50:54,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi gusto natin at the end of the day, ma-resolve ba itong problema ito? 1485 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,880 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi the last thing that we would like to happen, 1486 01:50:57,700 --> 01:51:01,520 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pag itong lahat ng GFIs, pitong GFIs, 1487 01:51:02,300 --> 01:51:05,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga manggagawa nito ay hindi nakapagtimpe, 1488 01:51:06,500 --> 01:51:07,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: lalabas tong mga to. 1489 01:51:08,820 --> 01:51:11,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is, yun yung gusto natin, hanggat maaari, 1490 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:16,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ayaw natin tumuntong sa isang sitwasyon na hindi natin makukontrol 1491 01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:23,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil very personal at malalim ang hugot ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs 1492 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dito sa mga nawalang allowances, benefits, and incentives. 1493 01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:34,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And for so long, hindi nila nakukuha yung sagot from GCG. 1494 01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:41,060 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And it is a welcome development that the sponsor is assuring this representation 1495 01:51:41,060 --> 01:51:46,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that through the chairperson of GCG ay magkakaroon tayo ng pag-uusap. 1496 01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:52,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, on to the third question, part of my question. 1497 01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:57,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Malinaw po na nakasaad sa saligang batas natin, 1498 01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:02,620 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and in fact, this has been enshrined in labor laws and other relevant labor laws, 1499 01:52:03,260 --> 01:52:09,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung karapatan ng mga manggagawa na organisahin yung kanyang sarili 1500 01:52:09,220 --> 01:52:14,120 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at makipag-negosasyon o makipagtawaran sa kanyang employer. 1501 01:52:14,940 --> 01:52:20,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kung sa pampublikong sektor, collective negotiation ang tawag. 1502 01:52:20,440 --> 01:52:22,420 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So sa pribadong sektor, collective bargaining. 1503 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:30,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, sa Article 13, Section 3, at maging sa Executive Order No. 180, 1504 01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:34,440 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: garantisado ang karapatan ng lahat ng manggagawa, 1505 01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,800 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasama ang mga manggagawa sa pampublikong sektor, 1506 01:52:39,660 --> 01:52:43,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pagdating sa usapin ng self-organization and collective negotiation. 1507 01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,640 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero ito po yung malaking katanungan. 1508 01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:49,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, 1509 01:52:51,060 --> 01:52:53,580 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: eh, pinoprohibit. 1510 01:52:54,080 --> 01:53:02,980 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yung mga GOCC boards na magkaroon ng collective negotiation with its workers. 1511 01:53:03,580 --> 01:53:08,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So there is an absolute blanket prohibition. 1512 01:53:09,340 --> 01:53:13,500 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So papaano po, so does the Commission honestly believe that 1513 01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:19,300 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this absolute blanket prohibition on negotiating every single economic, 1514 01:53:20,060 --> 01:53:23,700 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so yung economic provisions po ang pinatutungkulan Madam Sponsor, 1515 01:53:24,460 --> 01:53:27,680 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so negotiating every single economic term, 1516 01:53:28,500 --> 01:53:33,200 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is consistent with the constitutional guarantee of self-organization? 1517 01:54:31,380 --> 01:54:49,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, as for the GCG, there is recognition of their right to self-organization. However, in terms of bargaining for economic terms, apparently there are already a long list of Supreme Court rulings that... 1518 01:54:49,060 --> 01:54:51,860 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: What is that specific Supreme Court ruling? 1519 01:54:54,080 --> 01:55:13,480 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I'd like to reiterate. Constitutional guarantee, yung collective negotiation. So ano po yung sa Supreme Court ruling? 1520 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:37,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: If I'm allowed to enumerate, this is for your GSIS Family Bank Employees Union v. Villanueva, JR number 210773. 1521 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,940 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 210, JR number 210. 1522 01:55:39,940 --> 01:55:53,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 210773, a rule that may not negotiate with their officers and employees the economic terms of their collective bargaining agreements. 1523 01:55:54,080 --> 01:56:03,030 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And then for another Supreme Court ruling, PNCC versus NLRC, G.R. number 24... 1524 01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:06,370 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Anong kaso po ?yan, Madam Sponsor? 1525 01:56:06,370 --> 01:56:07,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: PNCC. 1526 01:56:07,380 --> 01:56:08,360 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Okay, okay. 1527 01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:21,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, PNCC versus NLRC, G.R. number 248401, said that with the subsequent enactment of RA 10149, 1528 01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: PNCC may no longer grant this benefit. 1529 01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Without persecuring the requisite authority of the President. 1530 01:56:28,500 --> 01:56:31,560 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Without the authority of the President. 1531 01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:31,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 1532 01:56:32,500 --> 01:56:39,220 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hayaan niyo po, Madam Sponsor, na reviewin din ang kinatawang ito, yung binanggit niyo po na jurisprudence on this matter. 1533 01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,180 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya po maganda nga na magkakaroon tayo ng dialogo. 1534 01:56:42,180 --> 01:56:48,100 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So as to reconcile our reading on this particular case. 1535 01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:53,760 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi napakalinaw na tila baga nadidefeat na. 1536 01:56:54,080 --> 01:57:04,020 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang constitutional guarantee pagdating sa collective negotiation, medyo mabigat po yun. 1537 01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:14,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nadagok sa mga union ng mga manggagawa dahil the reason of existence po ng mga union ng mga manggagawa, 1538 01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:23,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: may it be in private or public sector, ay para may abante yung mga panawagan tungkol sa pagdadagdag ng sahod, 1539 01:57:23,580 --> 01:57:24,000 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mga benepisyon. 1540 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yun nga po, yung abis na tinatawag. 1541 01:57:27,260 --> 01:57:35,780 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So marami pong katanungan pa na gustong himayin ang kinatawang ito, pero dahil limitado po ang oras natin, 1542 01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:42,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: will we get that commitment again from the distinguished sponsor and the GCG through its chairperson, 1543 01:57:43,700 --> 01:57:53,820 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for us to sit down together and have an honest to goodness talk and dialogue about this matter and questions of workers in the GFIs? 1544 01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:54,740 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Sponsor? 1545 01:57:56,740 --> 01:58:09,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we reaffirm the commitment and I was also informed by our good chairperson that this coming Friday, next Friday, 1546 01:58:10,460 --> 01:58:17,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: may meeting daw po with the labor groups firm, GFIs. 1547 01:58:17,420 --> 01:58:22,960 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you, Madam Sponsor and through the chairperson of GCG for affirming. 1548 01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:31,460 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That commitment, dahil ako rin po ang kinatawang ito ay nais malinawan sa napakaraming mga tanong. 1549 01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:39,540 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So thank you, Madam Sponsor, to my good friend and asahan ko po yung pagtutulungan natin on this matter. 1550 01:58:40,100 --> 01:58:53,140 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And with that, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, there being no other member from the minority to interpolate for the budget of GCG, 1551 01:58:53,140 --> 01:58:53,840 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I move. 1552 01:58:54,080 --> 01:59:06,160 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: To terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the plenary consideration of the budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs for Fiscal Year 2027. 1553 01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:08,080 Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I so move, Mr. Speaker. 1554 01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:09,800 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say? 1555 01:59:09,980 --> 01:59:10,720 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 1556 01:59:11,340 --> 01:59:23,940 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority to terminate the period of interpellation in the Governance Commission for GOCCs. 1557 01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:33,600 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs. 1558 01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:35,260 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 1559 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:37,520 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 1560 01:59:38,340 --> 01:59:46,180 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellation on the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs is hereby terminated. 1561 01:59:46,940 --> 01:59:47,700 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations. 1562 01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:51,100 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader. 1563 01:59:52,750 --> 01:59:54,060 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move. 1564 01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:58,680 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: To consider the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority. 1565 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,780 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. Majority Leader. 1566 02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:24,300 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Mindanao Development Authority, Chairperson Leo Magno, Usec Janet Lopoz, Asec Romeo Montenegro. I so move, Mr. Speaker. 1567 02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:39,740 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Mindanao Development Authority, headed by the Chairperson, Secretary Leo Tereso Magno, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader. 1568 02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:53,330 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that you recognize the Honorable Nicanor Briones, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations to sponsor the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority. 1569 02:00:54,170 --> 02:01:00,280 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Representative Niki Briones is recognized. Please proceed. 1570 02:01:01,850 --> 02:01:03,360 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1571 02:01:04,220 --> 02:01:07,300 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Dear colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good evening. 1572 02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:20,320 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: I rise today to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Mindanao Development Authority, headed by Secretary Leo Tereso Magno. 1573 02:01:21,500 --> 02:01:24,100 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mindanao Development Authority is mandated. 1574 02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:45,340 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: By virtue of Republic Act No. 9996, to promote, coordinate, and facilitate the socio-economic development of Mindanao through an integrated approach promoting trade, tourism, investment, private enterprises, and peace. 1575 02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:54,100 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: It also serves as the permanent Philippine Coordinating Office for the Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area. 1576 02:01:54,120 --> 02:02:15,840 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: It acts as the Secretariat for the Mindanao Power Monitoring Committee, Mindanao River Basin Management Council, NTF-ELCAC, and Cabinet Officer for Regional Development and Security in Mindanao. 1577 02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:22,840 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: It also implements critical strategic programs for the Mindanao. 1578 02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:33,720 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Such as the Project RIBER, which helps local government units develop, rehabilitate, and maintain its water supply infrastructure. 1579 02:02:35,060 --> 02:02:53,700 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: These programs are aligned with the Mindanao Agenda, which aims to achieve inclusive economic recovery, sustain green growth, build resilience, and strengthen peace and development for an improved quality of life for every Mindanao citizen. 1580 02:02:54,120 --> 02:03:25,710 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: [unclear] by 2030. For this, we respectfully seek this Chamber's support to consider and approve the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority for fiscal year 2027, amounting to ₱272,435,000. Together, let us help a better Mindanao. Thank you very much, and I now welcome any questions from our colleagues. 1581 02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:30,620 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Briones. Majority Leader. 1582 02:03:30,620 --> 02:03:35,650 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation. 1583 02:03:35,970 --> 02:03:42,550 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list PHILRECA is recognized. Please proceed. 1584 02:03:43,660 --> 02:03:51,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course, to the distinguished sponsor, this is about the Mindanao Energy Security. 1585 02:03:51,540 --> 02:04:06,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question. Mr. Speaker, this is the sponsor. Based on the projects, Minda has identified reliable and affordable electricity necessary for their success and sustainability. 1586 02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:38,340 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: What's your question? 1587 02:04:38,340 --> 02:05:04,070 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, let me repeat my question. Based on the projects, MinDA has identified reliable and affordable electricity necessary for their success and sustainability. In short, naka-rely po kayo sa success ng the Mindanao project, yung affordable electricity for their success and sustainability. Yes or no? 1588 02:05:04,540 --> 02:05:07,380 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, distinguished colleague. 1589 02:05:07,380 --> 02:05:21,460 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Does Minda recognize electricity as a foundational requirement for Mindanao's industrial, agricultural, commercial, educational, health, and social development? 1590 02:05:21,540 --> 02:05:24,960 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, distinguished colleague. 1591 02:05:25,620 --> 02:05:33,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can MinDA describe what they know about the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex? 1592 02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:37,140 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor. 1593 02:05:40,140 --> 02:05:43,700 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sir, can you describe what they know? 1594 02:05:43,700 --> 02:05:50,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: We support all our efforts for the rehabilitation of the Agus Pulangi. 1595 02:05:51,540 --> 02:05:59,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, are you familiar with the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex? 1596 02:05:59,940 --> 02:06:02,300 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, distinguished colleague. 1597 02:06:03,300 --> 02:06:10,420 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam niyo po, ang Agus-Pulangi, yan po yung matagal na pong pinagkukunan, source of energy sa Mindanao. 1598 02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:15,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's why Congressman Sergio Dagooc, passionate siya pagdating po rito. 1599 02:06:15,940 --> 02:06:21,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ang tanong ko po, because as we know, marami. 1600 02:06:21,540 --> 02:06:25,680 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Marami po nag-aahangad sa Agus-Pulangi na ma-privatize. 1601 02:06:26,660 --> 02:06:41,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, do the Mindanao officers ng Mindanao Development Authority, are you in favor of, on record, are you in favor of privatizing Agus-Pulangi? 1602 02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:49,380 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. 1603 02:06:51,540 --> 02:06:58,600 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: What the Mindanao Development Authority wants is rehabilitation, not privatization. 1604 02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:05,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, you're in favor or you're not in favor of privatizing Agus-Pulangi? 1605 02:07:05,220 --> 02:07:07,640 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: No, no. Mindanao is not in favor. 1606 02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:08,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, you're not in favor? 1607 02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:10,420 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor. 1608 02:07:10,420 --> 02:07:17,360 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Second, so, as we know, that Agus-Pulangi hydropower needs rehabilitation. 1609 02:07:19,780 --> 02:07:20,580 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yeah, yes. 1610 02:07:21,540 --> 02:07:41,620 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: As of now, the capacity of the Agus-Pulangi hydropower plant is 1,000 megawatts and it's only running 600 to 700 megawatts, distinguished colleague. 1611 02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:47,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, again, let me do some fun facts. 1612 02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:51,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor. 1613 02:07:51,540 --> 02:08:04,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The National Power Corporation identifies the Agus-Pulangi complexes as having a combined installed capacity of 982 megawatts 1614 02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:10,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and supplying more than 50% of Mindanao's electricity requirements. 1615 02:08:10,180 --> 02:08:14,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam po natin kung ano po ang kalagayan ng Agus-Pulangi. 1616 02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:18,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Dito po nanggagaling kalahati po ng supply sa Mindanao. 1617 02:08:19,120 --> 02:08:20,940 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kaya, pansinin niyo po. 1618 02:08:21,540 --> 02:08:23,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Bisayas, nagkakaroon ng yellow alert. 1619 02:08:24,820 --> 02:08:30,740 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Even na Luzon, pero ang Bisayas, ang Mindanao ay bihira po because of Agus-Pulangi. 1620 02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:47,520 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Does Mindanao Development Authority agree that preserving affordable and reliable access to this renewable energy resource is essential to Mindanao development? 1621 02:08:48,220 --> 02:08:49,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do you recognize po yan? 1622 02:08:49,780 --> 02:08:51,520 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Definitely, Mr. Speaker. 1623 02:08:51,540 --> 02:08:53,540 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Distinguished colleague. 1624 02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:55,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you. 1625 02:08:56,860 --> 02:09:07,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If electricity is vital to Mindanao's development and Agus-Pulangi is a major government-owned source of electricity, 1626 02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:16,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: what precisely is Mindanao's position on private participation in its rehabilitation operation and management arrangement? 1627 02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:18,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano ba yung arrangement nyo? 1628 02:09:18,260 --> 02:09:21,500 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi, ano po, rehabilitate na. 1629 02:09:21,540 --> 02:09:24,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano po ang operation and management? 1630 02:09:24,620 --> 02:09:26,840 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano po ang arrangement po natin dito? 1631 02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:50,960 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, 1632 02:09:51,540 --> 02:10:17,340 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Distinguished colleague, iba ang ahensya na mag-iimplement ng privatization. Yung PSALM ang siyang mag-iimplement ng privatization [unclear]. 1633 02:10:17,340 --> 02:10:27,340 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, Mr. Speaker, medyo gusto ko lang linawin ito. Are we going to privatize ang Agus-Pulangi o yung kanilang rehabilitation lang? 1634 02:10:27,900 --> 02:10:29,760 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: It's only for rehabilitation. 1635 02:10:30,020 --> 02:10:44,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. So, malinaw po, Mr. Speaker, on record, the Agus-Pulangi will not be privatized but only yung rehabilitation ang ibibigay sa private. Tama ba ako doon? 1636 02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:46,980 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po. 1637 02:10:47,340 --> 02:10:51,640 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, yun ang gagawin. 1638 02:10:51,820 --> 02:10:54,680 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yun ang gagawin, Mr. Speaker. 1639 02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:57,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. This is very important. 1640 02:10:58,380 --> 02:11:17,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Section 47F of EPIRA excluded Agus-Pulangi from the generation assets initially privatized, provided that the ownership will be transferred to PSALM and the hydropower complexes will continue to be operated 1641 02:11:17,340 --> 02:11:28,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by NPC. It further states that privatization is left to PSALM's discretion in consultation with Congress. 1642 02:11:30,180 --> 02:11:30,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do you agree with that? 1643 02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:32,780 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 1644 02:11:33,340 --> 02:11:37,580 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We have to kasi. Nasa EPIRA law too. Section 47F, no? 1645 02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:46,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, meron po bang naganap na konsultasyon sa Kongreso? 1646 02:11:46,260 --> 02:11:47,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, patuloy. 1647 02:11:47,340 --> 02:12:02,980 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kung tungkol sa rehabilitation ng Agus-Pulangi, as far as I know, wala po akong alam na [unclear] hindi po ito kasama sa mandato ng Mindanao [unclear]. 1648 02:12:04,180 --> 02:12:17,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang gusto ko lang po dito malaman ay kung ano po talaga ang position ng Minda sa pangangalagaan natin sa nag-iisa na lamang na government-owned. 1649 02:12:17,340 --> 02:12:27,820 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito na lang po ang natitira. Kasi lahat po ng generation naibenta na ng PSALM. Ito na lang po ang kaisa-isa, ang Agus-Pulangi sa Mindanao. 1650 02:12:28,580 --> 02:12:39,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: As the Development Authority in Mindanao, would you allow the vital and strategic energy asset na mapunta na lamang sa kamay ng private corporation? 1651 02:12:39,780 --> 02:12:46,780 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, you said you are not willing to turn it over or to sell it to private corporation. 1652 02:12:47,340 --> 02:12:48,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? 1653 02:12:49,380 --> 02:12:55,720 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, tama po yun. 1654 02:12:57,100 --> 02:12:59,160 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes, tama. Hindi natin ibebenta. 1655 02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:00,760 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Hindi pwedeng ibebenta. 1656 02:13:00,980 --> 02:13:06,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That would be my five times na I asked you and you said yes, na hindi ibebenta. Thank you for that. 1657 02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:08,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Follow-up question, Mr. Speaker. 1658 02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:16,960 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: May ginawa po ba ang MinDA para makasiguro na ang mga tao sa Agus, sa Lanao, sa Bukidnon 1659 02:13:17,340 --> 02:13:26,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sa Iligan o sa iba pang mga apektadong komunidad na kasama sila sa decision-making patungkol dito sa Agus-Pulangi? 1660 02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:32,180 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sigurado po ako ay importante po itong issue na ito para sa ating mga local communities. 1661 02:13:32,780 --> 02:13:38,640 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Have you ever engaged the people from Lanao, Bukidno, even in Iligan? 1662 02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:44,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pagdating po rito, nagkaroon ba ng public consultation? Even yung rehabilitation lang? 1663 02:13:47,340 --> 02:13:54,700 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Considering that Minda is a member of the Power Monitoring Committee, nagkaroon po ng consultation. 1664 02:13:55,660 --> 02:13:59,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So there was consultation happen? 1665 02:13:59,960 --> 02:14:01,280 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 1666 02:14:01,280 --> 02:14:02,660 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: When? Where? 1667 02:14:11,980 --> 02:14:16,660 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, every year, nagkakaroon ng... 1668 02:14:17,340 --> 02:14:26,000 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mindanao Power Summit, kasama ang lahat ng stakeholders sa summit. 1669 02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:42,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So every year, there's a consultation. Was the consultation included or it being mentioned, the privatization or even the rehabilitation of Agus-Pulangi? Kasama po ba yan 1670 02:14:42,220 --> 02:14:43,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pagkaano kayo? 1671 02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:45,220 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kasama, kasama yung... 1672 02:14:45,980 --> 02:14:47,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Habang nagkakaroon kayo? 1673 02:14:47,340 --> 02:14:48,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In February na summit. 1674 02:14:49,220 --> 02:14:51,280 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kasama yung rehabilitation? 1675 02:14:52,440 --> 02:14:53,560 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And the privatization. 1676 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:08,020 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: At tuloy-tuloy ang pag-uusap tungkol sa Agus-Pulangi, kasama ang Department of Energy. 1677 02:15:08,440 --> 02:15:15,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: When you say continuous dialogue, ano ho yung pinag-uusapan? 1678 02:15:17,580 --> 02:15:19,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In privatization ho ba o hindi? 1679 02:15:28,130 --> 02:15:33,140 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Only privatization of maintenance and rehabilitation. 1680 02:15:33,140 --> 02:15:44,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So ano ho ang sabi ng mga tao from Bukidnon, Iligan, and Lanao? Are they in favor of privatization of Agus-Pulangi? 1681 02:16:02,300 --> 02:16:10,960 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, ang gusto ng taong bayan ay rehabilitation. 1682 02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:12,120 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Rehabilitation? 1683 02:16:12,120 --> 02:16:17,520 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: At continuously makapag-serve ang Agus-Pulangi. 1684 02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:18,870 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The Mindanao people wanted? 1685 02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:20,020 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: One hundred percent. 1686 02:16:20,510 --> 02:16:23,600 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Rehabilitation, but not privatization of Agus-Pulangi. 1687 02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:31,760 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for that. At least natutuwa ako, lalo na si Kong Serge Dagooc na nanonood ngayon sa atin. 1688 02:16:32,500 --> 02:16:38,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Dahil nandun siya sa Mindanao ngayon. Umiiyak siguro habang pinanonood tayo na sa Agus-Pulangi yung tao. 1689 02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:43,200 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: He's a very dedicated person, being a lineman himself. 1690 02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:46,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My next question. 1691 02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:58,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Given Mindanao Development Authority mandate to promote, coordinate, and facilitate Mindanao's socioeconomic development, 1692 02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:12,140 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is the agency truly protecting the interests of Mindanao when it supports or tolerates an arrangement that may place a major government-owned source of electricity under private control? 1693 02:17:12,140 --> 02:17:18,100 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I guess, nasagot mo naman na ito, so we don't have to answer that. At least a sign of relief. 1694 02:17:19,320 --> 02:17:34,540 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Did MinDA ever submit a written recommendation to the President, DOE, PSALM, NPC, even Congress, or any other responsible body concerning Agus-Pulangi? 1695 02:17:34,540 --> 02:17:42,280 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Mr. Speaker. 1696 02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:49,280 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Does that recommendation prioritize the long-term welfare of Mindanao residents? 1697 02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:53,800 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Over short-term fiscal proceeds or private investor returns? 1698 02:17:55,320 --> 02:17:57,100 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor. 1699 02:17:58,180 --> 02:18:18,320 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Mr. Speaker, before Congress approves its proposed fiscal year 2027 budget, Mindanao Development Authority should assure this August body that it is genuinely prioritizing the welfare of the people of Mindanao. 1700 02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:24,000 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And is committed to the inclusive and sustainable development of the region. 1701 02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:43,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That commitment must be demonstrated not only through plans, meetings, and policy statements, but through the protection of Mindanao's strategic public assets, particularly Agus-Pulangi. 1702 02:18:43,880 --> 02:18:48,880 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: These facilities are essential to Mindanao. 1703 02:18:49,320 --> 02:18:52,020 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mindanao's energy security and development. 1704 02:18:52,880 --> 02:19:10,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They must remain subject to public accountability and must not be placed under the control of private entities at the expense of consumers, electric, cooperatives, host communities, and the broader public interest. 1705 02:19:10,300 --> 02:19:19,300 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Accordingly, the Mindanao Development Authority should clearly and unequivocally state that it will not support 1706 02:19:19,320 --> 02:19:37,440 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: any arrangement that transfers effective control of Agus-Pulangi to private corporations without transparent justification, congressional consultation, strong consumer safeguards, and continuing public control. 1707 02:19:38,540 --> 02:19:48,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mindanao should also assure this committee that it is not siding with private corporations for their own commercial or financial interests. 1708 02:19:49,320 --> 02:19:56,860 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The recommendation must be based solely on its statutory mandate and the long-term welfare of the people of Mindanao. 1709 02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:07,240 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Minda should have a clear commitment to remain independent, transparent, accountable, and firmly aligned with the people of Mindanao. 1710 02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:21,380 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Before I end my interpellation, Mr. Speaker, Congressman Dagooc and I strongly oppose the privatization of Agus-Pulangi. 1711 02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:28,920 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yan na lang po ang nag-iisang generation po ng ating gobyerno. 1712 02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:35,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sana manatili pong yan government-owned para po sa ating mga kababayan sa Mindanao. 1713 02:20:35,080 --> 02:20:37,220 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. 1714 02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:47,060 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And of course, to the good-looking sponsor and to the rest of Mindanao Development Authority family. 1715 02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:55,080 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: With that, Mr. Speaker, there being no more members of the minority who wishes to interpolate, 1716 02:20:55,820 --> 02:21:02,400 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate the sponsorship and debate for the budget of Mindanao Development Authority. 1717 02:21:02,940 --> 02:21:05,260 Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Mr. Speaker. 1718 02:21:05,970 --> 02:21:06,270 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you. 1719 02:21:06,270 --> 02:21:07,240 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable 1720 02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:08,890 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Presley De Jesus. 1721 02:21:09,420 --> 02:21:11,200 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say, Majority Leader? 1722 02:21:11,860 --> 02:21:26,020 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations of the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority. 1723 02:21:26,580 --> 02:21:34,280 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority. 1724 02:21:34,280 --> 02:21:36,100 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 1725 02:21:36,100 --> 02:21:37,940 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. 1726 02:21:38,600 --> 02:21:44,760 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority are hereby terminated. 1727 02:21:45,980 --> 02:21:46,720 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations. 1728 02:21:48,780 --> 02:21:49,480 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader? 1729 02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:57,160 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board. 1730 02:21:58,160 --> 02:21:59,020 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? 1731 02:21:59,640 --> 02:22:01,840 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. 1732 02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:03,220 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader? 1733 02:22:03,780 --> 02:22:05,820 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the guests? 1734 02:22:08,180 --> 02:22:11,720 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: The heads and officials of the Marawi Compensation Board. 1735 02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:15,540 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Chairperson Attorney Muslimen T. Macarambon, Sr. 1736 02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:33,160 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: And the board members, Dr. Jamaica L. Dimaporo, Attorney Mabandes S. Diron, Jr., Engineer Nasser Tabao, Attorney Rasmiya Lawi, and Executive Director Sittie Raifa M. Pamaloy-Hassan. 1737 02:22:33,930 --> 02:22:35,980 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Thank you. 1738 02:22:35,980 --> 02:22:48,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Marawi Compensation Board, headed by its chairperson, Attorney Muslimen T. Macarambon, Sr., welcome to the House of Representatives. 1739 02:22:49,500 --> 02:22:50,160 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader? 1740 02:22:50,160 --> 02:23:05,100 Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, the Vice Chair, Nicanor M. Briones of Party-list AGAP, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board. 1741 02:23:05,960 --> 02:23:09,790 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Niki Briones is recognized. Please proceed. 1742 02:23:10,370 --> 02:23:20,760 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, it is my honor and privilege to sponsor today the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Marawi Compensation Board. 1743 02:23:22,060 --> 02:23:27,240 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: I now welcome questions on the budget of the MCB. 1744 02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:34,740 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Briones, Majority Leader. 1745 02:23:35,620 --> 02:23:47,100 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula from Akbayan Party-list for her interpellation. 1746 02:23:47,100 --> 02:23:50,720 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Ismula from Akbayan is recognized. 1747 02:23:51,060 --> 02:23:51,620 Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed. 1748 02:23:53,060 --> 02:23:56,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamualaikum, Warahmatullahi, Wabarakatuhu. 1749 02:23:57,040 --> 02:23:59,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magandang gabi po sa ating lahat. 1750 02:23:59,880 --> 02:24:05,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, may breakdown po ba? 1751 02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:16,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nang budget utilization ng MCB for the past year, ilang porsyento ang napunta sa actual compensation versus operation? 1752 02:24:18,040 --> 02:24:21,240 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues. 1753 02:24:22,040 --> 02:24:30,220 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Meron po tayong breakdown sa utilization ng budget ng year 2025 and 2026. 1754 02:24:30,220 --> 02:24:41,100 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: And total utilization for the program for the year 2025. 1755 02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:56,820 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, 95.6% of the total budget was for the program. 1756 02:24:56,820 --> 02:24:58,260 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1757 02:24:58,260 --> 02:25:03,360 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: For the compensation of the claim, 1758 02:25:03,360 --> 02:25:05,420 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: or the compensation of the claimant. 1759 02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:22,260 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Obligation rate of the release allotment, 64%. 1760 02:25:25,880 --> 02:25:28,260 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 64%. 1761 02:25:28,260 --> 02:25:30,880 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 42% 1762 02:25:30,880 --> 02:25:33,140 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Disbursement rate 1763 02:25:33,140 --> 02:25:35,900 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: versus the obligation is 66% 1764 02:25:35,900 --> 02:25:37,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker 1765 02:25:37,580 --> 02:25:38,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Your Honor 1766 02:25:38,340 --> 02:25:41,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor 1767 02:25:41,640 --> 02:25:43,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Under the 2027 1768 02:25:43,880 --> 02:25:45,440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: NEP of the Marawi 1769 02:25:45,440 --> 02:25:47,720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Compensation Board, the target 1770 02:25:47,720 --> 02:25:49,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for percentage of eligible 1771 02:25:49,740 --> 02:25:51,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: claims awarded and 1772 02:25:51,780 --> 02:25:53,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: paid is set at 1773 02:25:53,460 --> 02:25:55,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 90%. Ilang 1774 02:25:55,420 --> 02:25:57,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: claimants po ang 1775 02:25:57,540 --> 02:25:59,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: maa-award kung ma-hit 1776 02:25:59,300 --> 02:26:01,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang 90% target at ilan 1777 02:26:01,540 --> 02:26:03,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naman ang matitira na 1778 02:26:03,220 --> 02:26:04,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kailangan pang bayaran 1779 02:26:04,800 --> 02:26:06,260 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So 1780 02:26:06,260 --> 02:26:09,360 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker 1781 02:26:09,360 --> 02:26:10,620 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: sa 2027 1782 02:26:10,620 --> 02:26:12,540 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: budget 1783 02:26:12,540 --> 02:26:15,820 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ang 90% is 684 1784 02:26:15,820 --> 02:26:17,760 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: claimants 1785 02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:25,100 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, 90% is 1786 02:26:25,100 --> 02:26:27,360 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 684 1787 02:26:27,540 --> 02:26:29,780 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: and the remaining claimants 1788 02:26:29,780 --> 02:26:30,880 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: is 3,600 1789 02:26:30,880 --> 02:26:33,320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I'm sorry, Mr. Sponsor 1790 02:26:33,320 --> 02:26:35,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pakiulit lamang po 1791 02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:37,000 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 684 1792 02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:39,440 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: claimants ang 90% 1793 02:26:39,440 --> 02:26:40,440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang matitira 1794 02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:44,940 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang remaining claimants is 1795 02:26:44,940 --> 02:26:45,940 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 3,600 1796 02:26:45,940 --> 02:26:50,940 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Because the budget is only 1797 02:26:50,940 --> 02:26:53,720 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 1 billion pesos 1798 02:26:53,720 --> 02:26:55,260 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker 1799 02:26:55,260 --> 02:26:55,660 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Your Honor 1800 02:26:55,660 --> 02:26:57,380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, magkano ang total 1801 02:26:57,380 --> 02:26:59,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: budget allocated to reach 1802 02:26:59,240 --> 02:27:00,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: this target po? 1803 02:27:01,400 --> 02:27:02,980 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, we need 1804 02:27:02,980 --> 02:27:05,140 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 7.6 1805 02:27:05,140 --> 02:27:06,220 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: billion 1806 02:27:06,220 --> 02:27:07,720 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: to 1807 02:27:07,720 --> 02:27:10,920 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: accommodate all the claimants 1808 02:27:10,920 --> 02:27:12,760 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: for the 1809 02:27:12,760 --> 02:27:15,080 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: compensation of 1810 02:27:15,080 --> 02:27:16,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: all the claimants 1811 02:27:16,860 --> 02:27:19,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam, Mr. 1812 02:27:19,300 --> 02:27:21,180 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Speaker, Mr. Sponsor 1813 02:27:21,180 --> 02:27:22,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kung sakaling hindi maabot ang 1814 02:27:22,900 --> 02:27:25,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 90% target, ano po 1815 02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:26,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang budgetary implications 1816 02:27:27,380 --> 02:27:29,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: may reallocation plan po ba 1817 02:27:29,740 --> 02:27:31,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para masiguro na hindi 1818 02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:32,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: masasayang ang pondo? 1819 02:27:34,880 --> 02:27:35,340 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, 1820 02:27:36,040 --> 02:27:37,040 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, 1821 02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:37,980 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Your Honor 1822 02:27:37,980 --> 02:27:41,380 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: yung remaining budget 1823 02:27:41,380 --> 02:27:42,920 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: meron naman tayong continuing 1824 02:27:42,920 --> 02:27:44,680 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: appropriation for 1825 02:27:44,680 --> 02:27:46,040 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 2028 1826 02:27:46,040 --> 02:27:47,580 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So, 1827 02:27:49,640 --> 02:27:51,140 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: magagamit din 1828 02:27:51,140 --> 02:27:53,060 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: budget natin sa 1829 02:27:53,060 --> 02:27:54,220 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 2027 1830 02:27:54,900 --> 02:27:57,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero sumatotal po, 1831 02:27:57,000 --> 02:27:58,880 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, yung 1 billion 1832 02:27:58,880 --> 02:28:00,660 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: in the 1833 02:28:00,660 --> 02:28:03,340 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: first quarter 1834 02:28:03,340 --> 02:28:05,140 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ma-utilize na yung 1835 02:28:05,140 --> 02:28:06,480 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 1 billion 1836 02:28:06,480 --> 02:28:08,280 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: budget 1837 02:28:08,280 --> 02:28:11,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero sumatotal po, ang kinakailangan ninyo 1838 02:28:11,560 --> 02:28:13,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para makompensate na po 1839 02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:15,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang kabuo ang 1840 02:28:15,100 --> 02:28:17,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: beneficiaries natin ay 1841 02:28:17,560 --> 02:28:19,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sinabi nyo po kanina na sa 1842 02:28:19,060 --> 02:28:20,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 7.6 billion, tama po? 1843 02:28:21,380 --> 02:28:22,120 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po yan 1844 02:28:22,120 --> 02:28:25,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, for 2027 1845 02:28:25,420 --> 02:28:26,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: up to 2028 1846 02:28:27,380 --> 02:28:27,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 8, 1847 02:28:28,360 --> 02:28:31,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lumalabas na hindi man lang tayo 1848 02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:33,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kumakalahati sa kailangan 1849 02:28:33,800 --> 02:28:35,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng Marawi Compensation Board 1850 02:28:35,620 --> 02:28:36,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba? 1851 02:28:36,820 --> 02:28:39,100 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Totoo po yan, kung hindi po madadagdagan 1852 02:28:39,100 --> 02:28:42,640 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ang budget ng Marawi Compensation Board 1853 02:28:42,640 --> 02:28:45,940 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor 1854 02:28:45,940 --> 02:28:47,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hanggang kailan na lang po ito 1855 02:28:47,600 --> 02:28:49,580 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang plano ng MCB? 1856 02:28:50,600 --> 02:28:51,360 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hanggang 1857 02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:52,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: anong taon na lamang po? 1858 02:28:53,500 --> 02:28:54,380 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Up to 1859 02:28:54,380 --> 02:28:56,500 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: May 1860 02:28:56,500 --> 02:28:58,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 31, 2028 1861 02:28:58,860 --> 02:29:00,720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 2028 1862 02:29:00,720 --> 02:29:03,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So kung sakali man, 1 billion 1863 02:29:03,020 --> 02:29:04,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ngayong 2027 1864 02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:06,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at sabihin na natin 1865 02:29:06,620 --> 02:29:08,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 1 billion na naman sa 2028 1866 02:29:08,700 --> 02:29:11,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lumalabas na hindi po talaga 1867 02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:12,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: makakompensate lahat 1868 02:29:12,700 --> 02:29:15,100 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng ating mga beneficiaries 1869 02:29:15,100 --> 02:29:16,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa Marawi Siege, tama po ba? 1870 02:29:17,900 --> 02:29:18,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po yan 1871 02:29:18,860 --> 02:29:20,180 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: dahil na 1872 02:29:20,180 --> 02:29:22,240 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: kulang yung budget na 1873 02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:24,920 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: sa NEP sa ngayon. 1874 02:29:24,920 --> 02:29:25,740 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang 1875 02:29:25,740 --> 02:29:26,480 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: pag-asa 1876 02:29:26,500 --> 02:29:27,500 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na lang po natin ay 1877 02:29:27,500 --> 02:29:28,500 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: kung sakaling 1878 02:29:28,500 --> 02:29:31,500 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: madaragdagan yung budget. 1879 02:29:31,500 --> 02:29:33,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, no? 1880 02:29:33,500 --> 02:29:35,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor 1881 02:29:35,500 --> 02:29:37,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: May performance benchmark po ba 1882 02:29:37,500 --> 02:29:39,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang MCB para sa 1883 02:29:39,500 --> 02:29:41,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: claim processing speed at 1884 02:29:41,500 --> 02:29:43,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: paano ito minomonitor at 1885 02:29:43,500 --> 02:29:45,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nire-report sa publiko? 1886 02:29:59,210 --> 02:30:02,250 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Meron tayong, merong 1887 02:30:03,150 --> 02:30:04,640 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ah, performance 1888 02:30:04,640 --> 02:30:05,760 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: benchmark. 1889 02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:06,960 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: May quota every month 1890 02:30:06,960 --> 02:30:09,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: from 320 to 350 1891 02:30:09,860 --> 02:30:11,600 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: claimants resolved. 1892 02:30:18,220 --> 02:30:19,420 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: And then, 1893 02:30:20,180 --> 02:30:22,220 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: yung progress report 1894 02:30:22,220 --> 02:30:24,120 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: every month, nagsa-submit sila 1895 02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:25,540 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: sa Office of the President 1896 02:30:25,540 --> 02:30:27,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: of MRD, 1897 02:30:27,860 --> 02:30:28,660 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: MRD, 1898 02:30:29,160 --> 02:30:30,500 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: PBM, and to the board, 1899 02:30:30,740 --> 02:30:32,040 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: check if quota is reached. 1900 02:30:33,860 --> 02:30:34,620 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Reporting 1901 02:30:34,620 --> 02:30:36,220 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: through social media, 1902 02:30:37,480 --> 02:30:38,780 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: weekly posts indicating 1903 02:30:38,780 --> 02:30:39,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: the docket numbers, 1904 02:30:40,140 --> 02:30:42,240 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: through 1905 02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:44,320 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ocular inspection so they can track 1906 02:30:44,320 --> 02:30:45,780 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: when it's their turn 1907 02:30:45,780 --> 02:30:47,360 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: to be inspected. 1908 02:30:50,500 --> 02:30:51,900 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Meron pong docket system 1909 02:30:51,900 --> 02:30:54,080 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: where the claimant can ask online 1910 02:30:54,080 --> 02:30:56,060 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: for the status of their claim, 1911 02:30:57,560 --> 02:30:57,840 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: where 1912 02:30:57,840 --> 02:30:59,880 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: they can enter name, DACET number, 1913 02:31:00,060 --> 02:31:01,900 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ID, then information of 1914 02:31:01,900 --> 02:31:03,680 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: officer of MCB can check 1915 02:31:03,680 --> 02:31:06,000 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: the status and will reply 1916 02:31:06,000 --> 02:31:06,740 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: via email 1917 02:31:06,740 --> 02:31:08,880 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: regarding the status. 1918 02:31:10,340 --> 02:31:11,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 1919 02:31:12,140 --> 02:31:13,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Under the 2027 1920 02:31:13,640 --> 02:31:15,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: budget po of the MCB, 1921 02:31:16,520 --> 02:31:17,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: meron bang budget 1922 02:31:17,840 --> 02:31:19,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for support services like roads 1923 02:31:19,880 --> 02:31:21,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: and transportation, 1924 02:31:21,760 --> 02:31:23,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: especially those who were relocated 1925 02:31:23,900 --> 02:31:25,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: in other areas po? 1926 02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:35,820 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang budget po natin ay para sa 1927 02:31:35,820 --> 02:31:37,840 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Marawi Siege Victims 1928 02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:39,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Compensation only. 1929 02:31:39,620 --> 02:31:42,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin wala po tayo dito 1930 02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:43,860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for support services. Tama po. 1931 02:31:44,180 --> 02:31:45,220 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Wala po. 1932 02:31:45,220 --> 02:31:47,170 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 1933 02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:49,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As a follow-up, 1934 02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:51,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: does the MCB have a plan 1935 02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:52,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for the provision of making the 1936 02:31:52,500 --> 02:31:54,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: relocation dignified 1937 02:31:54,560 --> 02:31:56,200 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: and sustainable for the 1938 02:31:56,200 --> 02:31:57,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Marawi Siege Victims? 1939 02:32:39,240 --> 02:32:52,710 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So tuloy-tuloy po ang pagresolba ng mga kailangan ng mga claim [unclear]. 1940 02:32:53,770 --> 02:33:19,570 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, distinguished sponsor, or no? Naintindihan ko po ito. So under the Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Act, na lamang po few years left. Gaya ng nasabi ko kanina, nasagot niyo rin na hanggang 2028 na lang to fulfill the mandate of the Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Act. 1941 02:33:20,250 --> 02:33:46,250 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngayon, dahil sa napakaliit ng inyong pondo kada taon at medyo malaki pa ang kailangan para ma-complete ito, ano po ba yung concrete timeline or milestone ng MCB to ensure na yung full disbursement po natin sa ating mga beneficiaries [unclear] sunset provision takes effect? 1942 02:34:04,190 --> 02:34:17,740 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, it depends on the available budget, and MCB will ensure that it will continue its adjudication function despite [unclear]. 1943 02:34:18,820 --> 02:34:35,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po ba nito, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, sakaling hindi po nabigay yung full amount of budget natin hanggang 2028, ibig sabihin wala na pong continuation ng plan na ito. 1944 02:34:36,340 --> 02:34:43,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi na po talaga makukompensate yung mga beneficiaries na hindi napagbigyan dahil po lang sa pondo. 1945 02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:48,520 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, after the last... 1946 02:34:48,820 --> 02:35:06,040 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: After the last lifespan of this MCB, it will be turned over to DHSUD for the [unclear] implementation of giving compensation. 1947 02:35:06,640 --> 02:35:18,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po. Mr. Sponsor, yung opisina ko po, we've received reports from CSOs that confusion has arisen among claimants. 1948 02:35:18,240 --> 02:35:18,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: confusion has arisen among claimants. 1949 02:35:18,820 --> 02:35:30,380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dahil sa paglipat ng thousands of property damage claims sa NHA, maaari bang ipaliwanag ang dahilan ng transfer na ito? 1950 02:35:31,980 --> 02:35:32,180 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ah. 1951 02:35:34,120 --> 02:35:46,080 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, there's a moa between MCB and NHA. 1952 02:35:48,820 --> 02:35:59,320 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: In transferring the claim under Section 5 of Republic Act 11696 to the National Housing Authority. 1953 02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:01,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po. 1954 02:36:01,620 --> 02:36:04,260 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So, yun, Mr. Speaker. 1955 02:36:05,480 --> 02:36:07,720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po, Mr. Sponsor. 1956 02:36:07,940 --> 02:36:18,260 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano po kaya natin masisiguro na ang MCB, hindi na ito magdudulot ng dagdag na stress at further trauma? 1957 02:36:18,820 --> 02:36:24,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa ating mga biktima ng Marawi siege, lalo pat, ito transfer na natin sa NHA. 1958 02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:39,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kasi po, may nareceive po kaming informations na kung sakali ma-transfer na ito sa NHA, dagdag stress daw po ito sa kanila dahil magre-reset na naman daw po sila ng kanilang mga requirements. 1959 02:36:48,820 --> 02:37:03,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Hindi naman, Mr. Speaker, hindi naman matitigil yung, hindi sila, hindi magbabak to zero ang MCB. 1960 02:37:04,620 --> 02:37:12,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kumbaga, kung ano yung natapos, itutuloy lamang ng NHA. 1961 02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:13,380 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po. 1962 02:37:13,460 --> 02:37:18,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Finally, distinguished sponsor, anong mekanism ang pinapairal ng MCB 1963 02:37:18,700 --> 02:37:29,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para ang compensation process ay hindi lamang mabilis kundi transparent at free from bureaucratic delays or inconsistencies? 1964 02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:48,800 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, as a quasi-judicial body, we have to ensure na tama at eligible ang mga babayaran. 1965 02:37:48,800 --> 02:38:18,780 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: But from time to time, we regularly review and streamline the process. The process generally involves filing, technical and legal evaluation, clarification hearing when necessary, deliberation and decision by the Board, posting, publication, and awarding and payment. For structural claims there must first be technical assessment, 1966 02:38:18,780 --> 02:38:48,760 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: which may involve validation and ocular inspection. Claims then undergo legal evaluation before being raffled to a division for adjudication. We have streamlined the process by allowing claims below 10 million to be decided at the division level instead of requiring every claim to undergo en banc deliberation, thereby removing a significant [unclear]. 1967 02:38:48,760 --> 02:39:01,380 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Aside from regular reporting and monitoring of accomplishment, mentioned earlier including assessment of quota rates, available din po ang mga reporting data through the website. 1968 02:39:02,400 --> 02:39:05,820 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: That's to be transparent. 1969 02:39:06,480 --> 02:39:06,680 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes. 1970 02:39:06,980 --> 02:39:09,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po, Distinguished Sponsor. 1971 02:39:10,180 --> 02:39:15,860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, nine years ago na po ang Marawi siege. 1972 02:39:15,860 --> 02:39:31,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakakabahala na hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin makuha ng ating mga kapatid sa Marawi ang hustisya para sa kanilang mga pamilya, mga mahal sa buhay at bahay at kabuhayang nawala. 1973 02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:35,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi tayo po papayag na mambigo natin sila. 1974 02:39:35,080 --> 02:39:45,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, makita naman po natin ang prioridad dito sa pag-compensate po natin. 1975 02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:48,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa mga naging biktima po ng Marawi siege. 1976 02:39:49,500 --> 02:40:07,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung sa, kung 1 billion pesos po ang kanilang pondo right now na sinasabi po ng MCB na ito ay kulang at ang kailangan nila hanggang sa matapos itong lahat ay nasa 7.6 billion, eh mukhang hindi po ata natin ito tinutupad. 1977 02:40:07,680 --> 02:40:13,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At hindi po tayo nagiging compliant sa naging batas po natin, no? 1978 02:40:13,900 --> 02:40:14,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, sana. 1979 02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:24,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, madagdagan naman po natin itong budget po ng MCB. Maraming salamat po. 1980 02:40:39,500 --> 02:40:40,500 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 1981 02:40:40,500 --> 02:40:45,500 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative... 1982 02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:50,500 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Rene Luis Co. 1983 02:40:50,500 --> 02:40:54,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Rene Luis Co is recognized for her interpellation. 1984 02:40:54,560 --> 02:40:55,240 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Please proceed. 1985 02:40:56,780 --> 02:41:03,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening for Distinguished Sponsor and the Marawi Compensation Board. 1986 02:41:04,660 --> 02:41:09,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Gusto ko lang pong mag-take off doon sa questioning ng ating colleague. 1987 02:41:10,500 --> 02:41:14,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kung saan, binring up niya po at magpapa-explain sa... 1988 02:41:15,840 --> 02:41:18,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ...recent Memorandum of Agreement. 1989 02:41:18,060 --> 02:41:37,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po ay nasa news reports, and mismo ang Marawi Compensation Board po ang nagpahayag na yung mga kaso for compensation were transferred to the jurisdiction of the NHA. 1990 02:41:37,960 --> 02:41:41,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pwede po bang malaman yung basis, legal basis, for this transfer? 1991 02:41:44,720 --> 02:41:45,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ... 1992 02:41:51,640 --> 02:42:02,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ang basis po ay yung Section 4 and Section 5 of Republic Act 11690. 1993 02:42:04,000 --> 02:42:14,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Na doon po nagsasabi, may nakalagay po doon na ang NHA po ang maghahawak or ipapahawak or pwedeng ipahawak sa ibang ahensya. 1994 02:42:15,840 --> 02:42:23,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ipapag natapos na po or nag-proceed na sa sunset clause ng Marawi Compensation Board. 1995 02:42:39,150 --> 02:42:39,590 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Thank you. 1996 02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:57,260 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues, 1997 02:42:57,260 --> 02:43:20,400 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Under the sunset clause, yun ang D-SUD ang mag-implement ng pangsyon ng Marawi Compensation Board. 1998 02:43:21,540 --> 02:43:26,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maari po bang makahingi po ng kopya ang representasyong ito? 1999 02:43:27,260 --> 02:43:37,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa mga memorandums of agreement between the NCM and the NHA regarding that transfer, Madam Speaker. 2000 02:43:37,980 --> 02:43:45,120 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: We will give you a copy of the memorandum of agreement, Madam Speaker. 2001 02:43:45,780 --> 02:43:48,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po ang NCM and NHA. 2002 02:43:51,720 --> 02:43:57,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Considering that there is clear basis, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, in Section 5, 2003 02:43:57,260 --> 02:44:02,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: RA 11696 as to the compensation under the right of way, 2004 02:44:03,080 --> 02:44:10,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would MCB know if there was a line item under the NHA to fund compensation for these transferred cases? 2005 02:44:10,380 --> 02:44:23,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Alam naman po natin na dahil po sa siege, marami pong mga daanan ang nasira at kung ano pong kailangang repairs na kailangang gawin. 2006 02:44:23,680 --> 02:44:26,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is the MCB aware na may line item? 2007 02:44:27,260 --> 02:44:31,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: O ba ang NHA to fund compensation for these transferred cases? 2008 02:44:37,280 --> 02:44:42,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For the year 2027, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, wala pong... 2009 02:44:42,580 --> 02:44:43,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Wala po. 2010 02:44:44,520 --> 02:44:48,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Considering the following, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, 2011 02:44:48,880 --> 02:44:57,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we will make a manifestation that the Committee on Appropriations make the needed amendment to the budget of NHA. 2012 02:44:57,260 --> 02:45:00,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To ensure that these amounts are funded. 2013 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:21,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: under the GAA. Sayang naman po kung may ganito ngang MOA o kung hindi man po for implementation ngayon ay magkakaroon po ang NHA ng role for compensation of these transferred cases pero hindi naman po mababadyetan. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, let that show on the record. 2014 02:45:21,360 --> 02:45:45,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang susunod ko pong tanong Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, malapit po sa puso ng kinatawan na ito ay kung kamusta po ang pag-aaral ng mga apektadong kabataang maranaw tungkol po sa state ng schooling, infrastructure, and yung pagtutuloy-tuloy nilang pag-aaral. 2015 02:45:45,440 --> 02:45:51,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, does the MCV have a list of schools that were affected by the siege? 2016 02:45:51,360 --> 02:45:59,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po, sila po ba ay naayos na? Kung hindi pa kumpleto ang pagsasayayos sa kanilang lahat, ano po ang status sa ngayon? 2017 02:46:00,740 --> 02:46:18,260 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Madam Speaker, Your Honor, ang status po, meron na pong 10 four-story school buildings with a capacity of 9,000 to 10,000 students. 2018 02:46:18,260 --> 02:46:21,340 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: By next month, according to the NHA, 2019 02:46:21,360 --> 02:46:31,740 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na meron nang malilipatan next month, Madam Speaker. 2020 02:46:31,740 --> 02:46:36,210 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, tama po ba narinig ko: ten buildings? 2021 02:46:36,210 --> 02:46:40,090 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ten four-story buildings. 2022 02:46:40,090 --> 02:46:46,210 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ten four-story buildings na kaya pong mag-house in ng 9,000 to 10,000 students. 2023 02:46:46,210 --> 02:46:49,120 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes. 2024 02:46:49,140 --> 02:46:58,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At sa ngayon ay hindi pa po ito bukas, ongoing ang construction. Next month ay bubuksan na. Tama po ba, Madam Speaker, good sponsor? 2025 02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:01,820 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po yan, Madam Speaker, Your Honor. 2026 02:47:02,260 --> 02:47:12,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, prior po to next month or as of now, saan po nag-aaral ang mga kabataan? 2027 02:47:15,440 --> 02:47:19,660 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, meron namang temporary school. 2028 02:47:21,360 --> 02:47:24,620 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Binigay ng LGU, Madam Speaker, Your Honor. 2029 02:47:25,420 --> 02:47:49,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, maghihingi na lang po, kung maaari, ang kinatawan na ito ng listahan ng mga paaralan na ayos na, aayusin pa, ano pong kailangang status para po ma-check kung maayos po bang naitatawid ang access to education ng mga kabataan. 2030 02:47:49,180 --> 02:47:51,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Posible po ba yan, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor? 2031 02:47:51,360 --> 02:47:53,360 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes. 2032 02:47:55,420 --> 02:47:57,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 2033 02:47:58,800 --> 02:48:04,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang huling nating line of questioning ay tungkol po sa na-bring up na rin po ay restitution. 2034 02:48:05,980 --> 02:48:18,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, isang dekada na halos pagkatapos ng 2017 siege, full restitution remains an unfulfilled promise for thousands of Maranaos. 2035 02:48:19,480 --> 02:48:26,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: While the Marawi Compensation Board was authorized under RA 11696 to compensate victims, 2036 02:48:26,600 --> 02:48:35,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron nga po tayong natanggap na report na 3,100 housing-related claims are being offloaded to NHA. 2037 02:48:36,200 --> 02:48:44,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Habang thousands of internally displaced persons or IDPs remain stranded in temporary shelters nearly a decade later. 2038 02:48:44,780 --> 02:48:50,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron tayong mga paunang explanation ng mga kahirapan sa mga... 2039 02:48:51,360 --> 02:49:12,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: listahan, sa records, na sa atin, no, kailangan pong masikap na maigpawan para po mabilis na mabigay na sa mga IDPs at hanggang ngayon ay hindi pa rin nakakamit ng justisya dahil po sa nangyari. 2040 02:49:12,920 --> 02:49:21,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang tatanong ko na lang po, ano po bang measures in place ang nariyan po ngayon sa Marawi Compensation Board to prevent, 2041 02:49:21,360 --> 02:49:29,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: files from getting lost in bureaucratic transitions? Meron po tayong paglilipat ng records na ibibigay sa NHA. 2042 02:49:29,960 --> 02:49:40,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano natin may ensure na yung listahan na po ito, kumpleto, ito po ay na-check na, kumbaga, at hindi po mawawala? 2043 02:50:09,150 --> 02:50:21,340 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Madam Speaker, mayroon pong signed terms of reference ang MCB at saka ang NHA 2044 02:50:21,360 --> 02:50:32,240 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: para sigurado na maayos yung transition of files ng MCB to NHA. 2045 02:50:33,200 --> 02:50:42,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So nagbibigay po ng paninigurado at commitment ang MCV na ang transition ng mga documents ay magiging maayos, 2046 02:50:42,840 --> 02:50:49,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi po sana mawawala yung mga listahan at kung may validation na kailangan gawin ay gagawin po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 2047 02:50:49,580 --> 02:50:50,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tama po ba yun? 2048 02:50:51,360 --> 02:50:53,160 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor, Madam Speaker. 2049 02:50:54,160 --> 02:51:09,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ang huli na lang nating tanong ay nakita naman natin na nakakaantig ng puso na a small fraction of the targeted permanent housing units 2050 02:51:09,480 --> 02:51:13,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang natuturn over pa lamang sa displaced residents. 2051 02:51:14,900 --> 02:51:21,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron po bang concrete steps na ginagawa to accelerate turnover? 2052 02:51:21,360 --> 02:51:22,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 2053 02:51:31,980 --> 02:51:37,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, wala na sa MCV yun. 2054 02:51:37,200 --> 02:51:50,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: NHA na ang mag-continue ng lahat ng dapat ayusin para tuloy-tuloy na mabigyan ng mga... 2055 02:51:51,360 --> 02:51:54,060 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na claimants ng competition. 2056 02:51:54,980 --> 02:51:58,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero tama po ba, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, wala pa sa NHA sa ngayon. 2057 02:51:58,560 --> 02:52:09,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, nasa kapangyarihan pa rin po ng MCV sa ngayon na tumaha ng concrete steps to accelerate unit turnover. 2058 02:52:10,680 --> 02:52:16,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, baka po pwedeng makapagdetali ano po yung pwedeng magawa para po mas mapabilis pa. 2059 02:52:16,780 --> 02:52:21,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na't ayaw din naman nating paabutin sa sunset clause. 2060 02:52:21,360 --> 02:52:30,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, bago po, may marami pa rin naghihintay dito sa turnover. 2061 02:52:40,320 --> 02:52:47,460 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang NHA ang sa settlement at ang MCB ay sa compensation lang. 2062 02:52:49,320 --> 02:52:50,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 2063 02:52:50,860 --> 02:52:54,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marami pa rin pong may concerns sa Marawi Compensation Board. 2064 02:52:54,620 --> 02:53:00,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magiging bukas po ba ang MCV sa isang dialogo sa mga internally displaced persons, 2065 02:53:01,860 --> 02:53:08,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa lahat ng mga apektadong sektor para po mas mapabilis yung hindi lang turnover ng unit, 2066 02:53:09,380 --> 02:53:17,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero ma-streamline yung concerns at maayos na matawid yung kanilang mga hinahing para po maaksyonan ng MCV? 2067 02:53:18,580 --> 02:53:20,720 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Willing po ang MCV na... 2068 02:53:20,860 --> 02:53:32,180 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Makipag-dialog para sa lahat ng kailangan gawin sa mga claimants, Your Honor, Mr. Speaker. 2069 02:53:33,180 --> 02:53:43,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po. Let the record reflect ang pagbukas sa dialogo na gusto po natin sa susunod at sa malapit na panahon ay mangyari 2070 02:53:43,700 --> 02:53:50,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para po yung ating mga naging issue na ina-identify ay mabilis po. 2071 02:53:50,860 --> 02:53:58,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At sana po yung NHA, sila din po ay appraised nun sa mga steps na tinitake natin. 2072 02:53:58,620 --> 02:54:01,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, that is all. Thank you very much. 2073 02:54:01,140 --> 02:54:01,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 2074 02:54:02,280 --> 02:54:07,340 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, may recognize Representative Sara Elago for her interpellation. 2075 02:54:07,520 --> 02:54:10,300 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Elago is hereby recognized for interpellation. 2076 02:54:13,800 --> 02:54:15,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 2077 02:54:15,620 --> 02:54:20,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nais ko na lamang pong maituloy yung pagtatanong ng ating mga kasamahan tungkol sa... 2078 02:54:20,860 --> 02:54:22,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PONDO ng MCB. 2079 02:54:24,700 --> 02:54:33,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ayon ho sa ulat ng MCB, as of August 31, 2026, mayroon itong 4.362 billion total appropriations, 2080 02:54:34,160 --> 02:54:37,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung saan 2.362 billion ang released allotments. 2081 02:54:38,100 --> 02:54:45,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakasaad din na mayroon pang 2 billion pesos na unallocated amount pending further release from DBM. 2082 02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:46,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari ba nating malaman? 2083 02:54:47,320 --> 02:54:50,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano ang dahilan kung bakit hindi pa nailalabas ang natitirapan? 2084 02:54:50,860 --> 02:54:52,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Parang 2 billion pesos. 2085 02:55:03,780 --> 02:55:12,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, hindi pa na-re-release yung 2 billion from DBM, Your Honor. 2086 02:55:14,400 --> 02:55:18,260 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: And I have the review pa ng DBM, Your Honor. 2087 02:55:19,540 --> 02:55:20,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At Madam Speaker, 2088 02:55:20,860 --> 02:55:22,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay ma-re-release na ito. 2089 02:55:22,180 --> 02:55:29,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil sinabi din ng MCB na pagkatapos ng 2026 ay wala na silang matitira na pondo. 2090 02:55:30,040 --> 02:55:38,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na para sa 2027 ay napakaliit lamang ng kanilang pondo na naisama sa General Appropriations Bill 2091 02:55:38,700 --> 02:55:42,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: habang napakaraming mga pending pang-claims. 2092 02:55:43,140 --> 02:55:50,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, ang MCB po ay nailikha sa ilalim ng Republic Act No. 11696 at nagsimula. 2093 02:55:50,860 --> 02:55:55,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang operations noong January 30, 2023. 2094 02:55:56,040 --> 02:56:00,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakatakdang matapos ang five-year mandate nito sa June 3, 2028. 2095 02:56:00,620 --> 02:56:05,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: As of August 2026, may halos dalawang taon na lamang ang board. 2096 02:56:06,280 --> 02:56:13,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa kasalukuyang mga backlog at funding requirements na narinig po natin sa ating deliberasyon ngayong gabi, 2097 02:56:13,940 --> 02:56:23,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kumpiyansa po ba ang Marawi Compensation Board na matatapos nito ang lahat ng statutory responsibilities nito 2098 02:56:23,600 --> 02:56:25,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bago mag-expire ang kanyang mandato? 2099 02:56:28,020 --> 02:56:29,900 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Your Honor, Madam Speaker, 2100 02:56:30,960 --> 02:56:37,820 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: pagdating sa adjudication process, matatapos nila, 2101 02:56:38,900 --> 02:56:48,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ang hindi lang nila magagawa ay yung makapag-disburse dahil kulang ang ating pondong inilaan 2102 02:56:48,860 --> 02:56:49,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: para sa mga... 2103 02:56:50,860 --> 02:56:55,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Narinig natin, Madam Speaker, na kulang ang pondo. 2104 02:56:55,940 --> 02:57:01,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kung hindi matatapos ang lahat ng claims bago ang June 2028, 2105 02:57:01,760 --> 02:57:04,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron bang contingency plan ang ating pamahalaan? 2106 02:57:05,940 --> 02:57:12,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sino ang magpapatuloy ng proseso ng pagtitiyak ng compensation, 2107 02:57:12,740 --> 02:57:16,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng reparation, lahat ng pagbabayad ng remaining claims? 2108 02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:20,580 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, Madam Speaker, Your Honor, 2109 02:57:20,860 --> 02:57:25,300 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: nasa batas naman na ang magti-takeover ay ang DHSUD. 2110 02:57:26,680 --> 02:57:35,300 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So, DHSUD na ang magpapatuloy para sa processing ng mga compensation para sa mga claimant. 2111 02:57:37,700 --> 02:57:39,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Disyud na ang magpapatuloy. 2112 02:57:39,920 --> 02:57:47,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit, paano po maapektuhan ang inyong trabaho ng Executive Order No. 78 2113 02:57:47,340 --> 02:57:50,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pinirmahan noong November 28, 2024? 2114 02:57:50,860 --> 02:57:56,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sabi po dito ang magsisilbi na sekretariat 2115 02:57:56,220 --> 02:58:07,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or magiging attached ang board dito sa Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation and Development 2116 02:58:07,580 --> 02:58:10,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para daw po sa policy and program coordination 2117 02:58:10,960 --> 02:58:16,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak ang consistency ng goals at objectives ng MCB 2118 02:58:16,160 --> 02:58:19,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa lahat ng policies at trust ng national government. 2119 02:58:19,340 --> 02:58:20,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin po ba nito? 2120 02:58:20,860 --> 02:58:29,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maski po yung role ninyo bilang attached sa Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation and Development 2121 02:58:29,860 --> 02:58:32,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay hanggang 2028 na lamang po? 2122 02:58:38,860 --> 02:58:49,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mukhang ganun po ang mangyayari dahil yung MCB wala nang tapos na yung kanilang lifespan. 2123 02:58:50,860 --> 02:58:56,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, kung ang mga miyembro ngayon ng Marawi Compensation Board 2124 02:58:56,860 --> 02:59:03,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pipili at poposisyon, sa tingin niyo po ba dapat i-extend ang mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board 2125 02:59:03,860 --> 02:59:09,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hanggat sa hindi natatapos yung pagbabayad ng mga remaining claims? 2126 02:59:09,860 --> 02:59:16,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Siyempre po, dapat matiyak na matapos ito sa takdang panahon at hindi yung pangmatagalan. 2127 02:59:16,860 --> 02:59:18,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi yun na nga yung nangyari po ngayon. 2128 02:59:18,860 --> 02:59:19,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Natumagal na. 2129 02:59:19,860 --> 02:59:26,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na halos magsasampung taon na, nang hindi pa rin natitiyak yung mabilis na pagbabayad ng mga claims. 2130 02:59:26,860 --> 02:59:35,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mas maganda sana kung makakaroon ng extension pero siguro makangailangan niya ng batas. 2131 02:59:35,860 --> 02:59:47,860 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: May mga bills ang alam ko sa Congress at sa Senate to extend the life of Marawi Compensation Board. 2132 02:59:47,860 --> 02:59:57,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ang datos mismo ng Marawi Compensation Board ay nagpapakita na malaki na ang pondong nailabas para sa Compensation Program. 2133 02:59:57,860 --> 02:59:59,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit mayroon pa rin... 2134 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas malaking bilang pa ng claims na kailangang risolbahin at pondohan. 2135 03:00:05,720 --> 03:00:11,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: As of August 2026, 5,945 claims remain pending. 2136 03:00:12,300 --> 03:00:19,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ating 2027 General Appropriations Bill, naglalaan lamang ng 1 billion pesos para sa compensation program 2137 03:00:19,920 --> 03:00:27,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kumpara sa malaking kinakailangan na 5.28 billion proposal ng board. 2138 03:00:27,060 --> 03:00:35,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang funding gap ay tumataginting po napakalaki na 4.015 billion pesos. 2139 03:00:35,520 --> 03:00:41,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya napakahalagang malinaw na hindi lamang kung gaano karaming claims ang naprocess, 2140 03:00:41,800 --> 03:00:46,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi dapat may sapat at tiyak na pondo para sa lahat ng claimants, 2141 03:00:46,780 --> 03:00:50,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na matitiyak natin na may mekanismo ng transparency, 2142 03:00:51,120 --> 03:00:56,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matitiyak na ang bawat piso ng pondo ay madidiretsyo mismo sa mga claimants 2143 03:00:56,380 --> 03:01:01,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ating mga kababayan na apektado bago matapos ang mandato ng board. 2144 03:01:02,000 --> 03:01:08,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At bilang panghuli, kinatawagan na rin natin ang Kongreso na ito na magpatawag po sana tayo 2145 03:01:08,440 --> 03:01:19,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagdinig tungkol sa potensyal sa posible na pag-extend ng taon ng mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board 2146 03:01:19,260 --> 03:01:25,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para lang po sa interes ng karapatang pantao, para sa interes ng justisya, 2147 03:01:25,180 --> 03:01:26,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa interes. 2148 03:01:26,380 --> 03:01:37,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagtitiyak na nga nararapat na kompensasyon at reparasyon sa lahat ng mga 2017 Marawi Siege internally displaced persons. 2149 03:01:37,740 --> 03:01:41,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming maraming salamat Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor. 2150 03:01:42,380 --> 03:01:43,220 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 2151 03:01:45,100 --> 03:01:52,840 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Antonio Tinio. 2152 03:01:52,840 --> 03:01:55,790 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tinio is recognized 2153 03:01:56,030 --> 03:01:57,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of ACT Teachers for his interpellation 2154 03:01:57,400 --> 03:02:00,220 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: on the proposed budget of the MCB. 2155 03:02:02,460 --> 03:02:12,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, maraming na pong natanong at pasisimple na lang po natin 2156 03:02:12,880 --> 03:02:20,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at ididin yung mga importanteng punto kaugnay sa budget ng Marawi Compensation Board. 2157 03:02:21,800 --> 03:02:25,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pakikita nga po natin na ang proposed budget ay 2158 03:02:26,380 --> 03:02:40,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.247 billion pesos at sa halagang yun ay 1 billion pesos ang para sa Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Fund. 2159 03:02:41,660 --> 03:02:52,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nabanggit na po na papalapit na ang katapusan ng mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board. 2160 03:02:52,800 --> 03:02:55,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sabi nga doon sa Republic Act 11696. 2161 03:02:56,380 --> 03:02:59,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong sunset clause. 2162 03:02:59,880 --> 03:03:00,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 2163 03:03:00,820 --> 03:03:01,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sabi rito, 2164 03:03:01,600 --> 03:03:07,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The board shall complete its work within five years from the effectivity of the IRR. 2165 03:03:08,320 --> 03:03:11,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: After such period, it shall become punctus officio. 2166 03:03:13,620 --> 03:03:19,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagkatapos nun, ipapasa na sa DSUD. 2167 03:03:20,180 --> 03:03:26,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The DSUD shall continue to exercise the powers and functions of the board. 2168 03:03:26,200 --> 03:03:32,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to disburse and process any and all pending compensation due to qualified claimants. 2169 03:03:33,460 --> 03:03:35,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun po ang nakatakda sa batas. 2170 03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:44,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, dapat ituring ang sunset clause na ito bilang hamon sa kasalukuyang board. 2171 03:03:45,380 --> 03:03:53,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Huwag na nating intayin na umabot yung deadline at may maiwan pang trabaho sa DSUD. 2172 03:03:53,280 --> 03:03:55,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ngayon, 2173 03:03:56,200 --> 03:03:58,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ulitin lang natin, 2174 03:03:59,680 --> 03:04:02,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Pondo for Compensation ngayon ay 1 billion. 2175 03:04:03,140 --> 03:04:06,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malinaw po, nadiinan na, kapos ito. 2176 03:04:07,200 --> 03:04:14,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano po ang kailangan pa para makompleto ang trabaho ng compensation 2177 03:04:14,140 --> 03:04:23,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bago marating yung dulo o wakas ng mandato 2178 03:04:23,340 --> 03:04:24,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 2179 03:04:26,200 --> 03:04:29,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marawi Compensation Board? Ito po ay sa 2180 03:04:29,200 --> 03:04:33,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: after May 31, 2028. Tama po ba? 2181 03:04:33,200 --> 03:04:36,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po. 2182 03:04:36,200 --> 03:04:43,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At magkano po ang kabuuang kailangan para sa ilang bilang ng mga victims? 2183 03:04:43,200 --> 03:04:44,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Climants? 2184 03:04:44,200 --> 03:04:47,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mangangailangan po tayo, Madam Speaker, 2185 03:04:47,200 --> 03:04:49,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Sponsor, 2186 03:04:49,200 --> 03:04:51,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: distinguished colleague, 2187 03:04:51,200 --> 03:04:54,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na mga 6.6 billion 2188 03:04:54,200 --> 03:04:55,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: on top of 1 billion. 2189 03:04:55,200 --> 03:05:05,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, total kailangan, 7.6 billion for 2027, 1 billion lamang 2190 03:05:05,200 --> 03:05:15,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nakalaan. At muli, yung 1 billion ay para sa ilang bilang po ito muli ng claimants? 2191 03:05:15,200 --> 03:05:19,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 4,360 claimants. 2192 03:05:19,200 --> 03:05:21,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4,000? 2193 03:05:21,200 --> 03:05:24,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: For the total, 7.6 billion. 2194 03:05:24,890 --> 03:05:25,250 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 2195 03:05:25,680 --> 03:05:30,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang claimants na pwedeng mabigyan is 4,300. 2196 03:05:30,200 --> 03:05:34,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4,300. So, yung 1 billion po, ilan lang po ang mabibigyan diyan? 2197 03:05:34,200 --> 03:05:38,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 760. 2198 03:05:38,200 --> 03:05:52,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 760 lamang po. So, well, sa proposed budget for 2027, nakatali po ang kamay 2199 03:05:52,200 --> 03:05:56,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Marawi Compensation Board. 2200 03:05:56,200 --> 03:05:59,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 700, ilan po? 2201 03:05:59,200 --> 03:06:02,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 760 claimants. 2202 03:06:02,200 --> 03:06:06,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 760 claimants lang po ang mabibigyan. 2203 03:06:06,200 --> 03:06:20,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang usapin lang naman po rito ay ano ba ang kakayanin ng Marawi Compensation Board? 2204 03:06:20,200 --> 03:06:41,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Padaling sabihin, dagdagan natin ang pondo pero kaya bang ma-award ng Marawi Compensation Board ang mas malaking bilang kesa dito sa 760 families? 2205 03:06:41,200 --> 03:06:44,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang kayang gawin? 2206 03:06:44,200 --> 03:06:54,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker, kayang-kaya po yan. Ang kailangan lang po natin ay pondo. 2207 03:06:54,200 --> 03:07:02,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kayang-kaya. Magbigay po tayo ng kongkretong numero. Ano ang kakayanin? 2208 03:07:02,200 --> 03:07:08,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, yung 760, one to two months. 2209 03:07:08,200 --> 03:07:11,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In one to two months ay kaya po yan? 2210 03:07:11,200 --> 03:07:12,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kaya bigyan. 2211 03:07:12,200 --> 03:07:13,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Opo. 2212 03:07:13,200 --> 03:07:25,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kung may pondo po tayo, eh bago mag-lapse yung mandato, mapoprovide po natin, mabibigyan po natin yung lahat ng claimants. 2213 03:07:29,200 --> 03:07:41,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baka may maibigay po kayong mas kongkretong target na kakayanin realistically sa isang taon, fiscal year 2027. 2214 03:07:43,200 --> 03:07:52,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: We request the distinguished sponsor to give an estimate. Ilan ang kakayanin? 2215 03:07:52,200 --> 03:07:57,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 3,500 sa isang taon, Your Honor. 2216 03:07:57,200 --> 03:08:06,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 3,500. Hindi lang 760, kundi 3,500 claimants ang kayang mabigyan. 2217 03:08:06,200 --> 03:08:07,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor. 2218 03:08:07,200 --> 03:08:12,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Magkano po ang kailangan pondo para sa 3,500 na yan? 2219 03:08:12,200 --> 03:08:20,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 5 billion, Madam Speaker. 2220 03:08:20,200 --> 03:08:27,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 5 billion pesos. Okay. So, kung may 1 billion na kailangan dagdagan ng 4, ganun po ba? 2221 03:08:27,200 --> 03:08:28,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po. Tama po. 2222 03:08:28,200 --> 03:08:30,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4 billion pesos additional. 2223 03:08:30,200 --> 03:08:31,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4 billion. 2224 03:08:31,200 --> 03:08:40,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Well, Madam Speaker, malinaw naman po narinig natin na sabi ng Marawi Compensation Board, 2225 03:08:40,200 --> 03:08:55,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya daw nila makapagbigay, mag-award to 3,600 families at mangangailangan ng additional 4 billion pesos. 2226 03:08:55,200 --> 03:09:05,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ito po ba ay naparating ng Marawi Compensation Board sa Committee on Appropriations sa takdang panahon? 2227 03:09:10,200 --> 03:09:14,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we get a yes or no from the sponsor? 2228 03:09:14,200 --> 03:09:21,200 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mukhang nagsend ng letter. 2229 03:09:21,200 --> 03:09:25,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagsend ng letter. Okay. So, malinaw po, Madam Speaker. 2230 03:09:25,200 --> 03:09:37,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang kinatawang ito ay sumusuporta po sa request for institutional amendment ng Marawi Compensation Board 2231 03:09:37,200 --> 03:09:53,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for an additional 4 billion, pero pangahawakan po natin ang kanilang deklarasyon dito na kaya nilang ma-award ang pondo, 2232 03:09:53,200 --> 03:09:58,850 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang dagdag na pondo to 3,600. 2233 03:09:58,850 --> 03:09:59,410 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama, tama. 2234 03:09:59,410 --> 03:10:05,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 3,600 claimants. 2235 03:10:05,300 --> 03:10:07,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po ang pinakamahalaga. 2236 03:10:07,500 --> 03:10:14,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, kanina meron pong mga youth from Marawi. 2237 03:10:14,200 --> 03:10:23,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagpunta pa sila dito sa Maynila para nga makaharap ang Marawi Compensation Board. 2238 03:10:23,200 --> 03:10:30,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hinaharap naman tayo ni Chair Macarambon at ng kanyang mga staff. 2239 03:10:30,200 --> 03:10:32,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Papasalamat po tayo doon. 2240 03:10:32,200 --> 03:10:36,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa sa mga urgent request po nila ay yung director. 2241 03:10:36,200 --> 03:10:39,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay yung direktang harapan, dialogue. 2242 03:10:39,200 --> 03:10:50,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil kailangan-kailangan ng opisyal at klarong informasyon tungkol sa ano na ba ang kalagayan 2243 03:10:50,200 --> 03:10:57,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga matagal nang iniintay na pag-award ng claims. 2244 03:10:57,200 --> 03:11:05,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At gusto lang po natin mailagay on record na may commitment po 2245 03:11:05,200 --> 03:11:11,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for a dialogue in Marawi led by the Marawi Compensation Board. 2246 03:11:11,200 --> 03:11:16,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang tinarget po doon ay first week of October. 2247 03:11:16,200 --> 03:11:20,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, confirm po ba yung commitment na iyon? 2248 03:11:20,200 --> 03:11:23,980 Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor. Confirm po yung commitment. 2249 03:11:23,980 --> 03:11:27,770 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. Maraming salamat po. So, yun lang po. 2250 03:11:27,770 --> 03:11:29,320 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much, Honorable Tinio, Majority Leader. 2251 03:11:29,360 --> 03:11:32,190 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, nagpapasalamat tayo. 2252 03:11:32,200 --> 03:11:34,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Muli, sinusuportahan natin. 2253 03:11:34,200 --> 03:11:43,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung request ng Marawi Compensation Board for additional 4 billion pesos 2254 03:11:43,200 --> 03:11:46,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para magampanan nila ang kanilang mandato. 2255 03:11:46,200 --> 03:11:55,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And we look forward to their commitment na haharapin yung mga mamamayan ng Marawi sa Marawi mismo 2256 03:11:55,200 --> 03:11:57,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagbalik nila doon sa Oktubre. 2257 03:11:57,200 --> 03:12:00,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang doon na lamang po, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat. 2258 03:12:00,660 --> 03:12:04,490 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May be the Honorable Tinio would also like to move for the termination of the meeting. 2259 03:12:05,350 --> 03:12:06,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2260 03:12:07,240 --> 03:12:12,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There being no other member of the minority who wishes to interpolate, 2261 03:12:12,200 --> 03:12:19,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I move for the termination of the period of interpolation and debate 2262 03:12:19,200 --> 03:12:23,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the budget of the Marawi Compensation Board. 2263 03:12:23,200 --> 03:12:24,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 2264 03:12:24,200 --> 03:12:30,200 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate 2265 03:12:30,200 --> 03:12:33,200 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: the period of interpolation of the proposal, Marawi Compensation Board. 2266 03:12:33,200 --> 03:12:39,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a joint motion to terminate the period of interpellations 2267 03:12:39,680 --> 03:12:43,220 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: on the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board. 2268 03:12:43,660 --> 03:12:44,580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is there any objection? 2269 03:12:45,160 --> 03:12:46,280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Chair hears none. 2270 03:12:47,300 --> 03:12:49,880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The period of debate, sponsorship debate and interpellation 2271 03:12:49,880 --> 03:12:53,060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board 2272 03:12:53,060 --> 03:12:54,380 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby terminated. 2273 03:12:55,040 --> 03:12:55,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? 2274 03:12:58,560 --> 03:13:02,800 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget 2275 03:13:02,800 --> 03:13:05,900 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority. 2276 03:13:07,280 --> 03:13:11,860 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: And may we acknowledge the heads... 2277 03:13:11,860 --> 03:13:12,880 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Well, there's a pending motion. 2278 03:13:18,160 --> 03:13:22,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget 2279 03:13:22,400 --> 03:13:24,440 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority. 2280 03:13:24,440 --> 03:13:27,700 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There being no objections, that motion is carried. 2281 03:13:28,840 --> 03:13:31,520 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials 2282 03:13:31,520 --> 03:13:32,640 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: of the Bases 2283 03:13:32,800 --> 03:13:34,580 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Conversion and Development Authority, 2284 03:13:35,280 --> 03:13:38,440 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: namely President and CEO Joshua Bingcang, 2285 03:13:39,180 --> 03:13:40,520 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Director Glenn Albano, 2286 03:13:41,200 --> 03:13:42,840 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Director Dante Liban, 2287 03:13:43,740 --> 03:13:46,640 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Senior Vice President Hedda Rulona, 2288 03:13:47,220 --> 03:13:51,680 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Senior Vice President Diana Joyce Basco-Galera, 2289 03:13:52,480 --> 03:13:54,180 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Officer in Charge Mark Torres. 2290 03:13:54,740 --> 03:13:56,860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much, Majority Leader. 2291 03:13:57,620 --> 03:14:00,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we request the Majority Leader to recognize the sponsor. 2292 03:14:02,800 --> 03:14:06,180 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize 2293 03:14:06,180 --> 03:14:10,660 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: the Honorable Maria Angela S. Garcia, 2294 03:14:11,500 --> 03:14:14,180 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations... 2295 03:14:14,180 --> 03:14:16,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Maria Angela Garcia is hereby recognized 2296 03:14:16,800 --> 03:14:18,460 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to sponsor the proposed budget 2297 03:14:18,460 --> 03:14:21,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority. 2298 03:14:22,320 --> 03:14:24,500 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. 2299 03:14:24,980 --> 03:14:27,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations, 2300 03:14:28,140 --> 03:14:30,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: I have the privilege of sponsoring 2301 03:14:31,280 --> 03:14:32,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: the proposed... 2302 03:14:32,320 --> 03:14:34,600 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Fiscal Year 2027 Budget 2303 03:14:34,600 --> 03:14:40,460 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority. 2304 03:14:40,460 --> 03:14:45,760 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Together with President Joshua Bingcang 2305 03:14:45,760 --> 03:14:48,400 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: and the BCDA family, 2306 03:14:48,760 --> 03:14:51,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: we are ready to respond to the questions 2307 03:14:51,140 --> 03:14:55,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of our esteemed colleagues during the interpellation. 2308 03:14:56,160 --> 03:14:57,180 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 2309 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,260 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we recognize the Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula of the Akbayan Partylist for her interpellation. 2310 03:15:10,320 --> 03:15:14,440 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula is hereby recognized. 2311 03:15:16,460 --> 03:15:19,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu. 2312 03:15:20,540 --> 03:15:28,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dediretso na po ako sa aking katanungan para po mabilis tayong matapos dahil 10.13 na rin po ng gabi. 2313 03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:37,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakasaad sa gab na iisa lamang ang line item ng BCDA para sa susunod na taon. 2314 03:15:37,740 --> 03:15:52,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Malinaw po sa proposed appropriation na ang buong 1.983 billion ay para sa implementation ng BCDA Infrastructure Development Program at kaugnay nito, 2315 03:15:53,660 --> 03:15:59,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ano ang specific na performance target ng BCDA na dapat ma-achieve? 2316 03:16:00,000 --> 03:16:02,720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa ilalim ng program na ito. 2317 03:16:03,640 --> 03:16:06,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 2318 03:16:06,700 --> 03:16:14,780 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang targets po for 2027, ang isa pong target is the number of generated employment, 1,500. 2319 03:16:15,960 --> 03:16:28,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: The percentage of completed facilities constructed for the AFP, 100%, such as the Philippine Marine Headquarters, the Philippine Navy Senior Officers Quarters, 2320 03:16:28,880 --> 03:16:34,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: And the percentage of infrastructure projects implemented as planned, 100% din po. 2321 03:16:35,120 --> 03:16:42,360 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Such as the connecting road to the virology of DOST, the National Academy of Sports Dormitory of DepEd, 2322 03:16:42,360 --> 03:16:48,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: the access road leading to the Central Bank, University of the Philippines, and Philippine High School. 2323 03:16:50,660 --> 03:16:53,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, 2324 03:16:53,420 --> 03:16:59,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As we all know, ang issue ng Paxilica ay nangangailangan ng kalinawan. 2325 03:17:00,360 --> 03:17:06,420 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Iilang countries ang papasok dito sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park under sa Paxilica. 2326 03:17:07,500 --> 03:17:07,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilan po? 2327 03:17:09,020 --> 03:17:10,380 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 2328 03:17:10,680 --> 03:17:13,060 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa ngayon po, nothing is final yet. 2329 03:17:14,160 --> 03:17:17,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Hindi naman po ito US exclusive initiative. 2330 03:17:17,680 --> 03:17:23,120 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Dahil po as of June 2026, meron na pong 24 signatories. 2331 03:17:23,420 --> 03:17:25,420 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang Paxilica Declaration. 2332 03:17:26,420 --> 03:17:42,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kasama ang Pilipinas, United States, Australia, Japan, Republic of Korea, Singapore, the Netherlands, United Kingdom, India, Germany, Israel, United Arab Emirates, and other partner economies pa po. 2333 03:17:42,800 --> 03:17:53,400 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, ina-expect po natin na iba-iba po yung mga bansa na pwedeng mag-locate sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park. 2334 03:17:53,420 --> 03:17:56,300 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ilan naman po kaya yung tech firm? 2335 03:17:58,180 --> 03:17:59,420 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tech firm. 2336 03:17:59,860 --> 03:18:06,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pa po tayong final reply dyan kasi po nothing is final po as of the moment. 2337 03:18:06,860 --> 03:18:09,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po, Distinguished Sponsor. 2338 03:18:09,960 --> 03:18:12,860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dadako po ako sa aking pangatlong katanungan. 2339 03:18:13,380 --> 03:18:21,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano po kaya ang specific roles ng BCDA sa Paxilica at sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park? 2340 03:18:23,420 --> 03:18:30,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ang BCDA po ay isang IPA or Investments Promotions Agency. 2341 03:18:30,960 --> 03:18:42,240 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, yung role po niya ay limitado po sa pagiging isang commercial partner or lessor po ng CAMP or ng Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park. 2342 03:18:43,300 --> 03:18:45,980 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilang staff po ba meron ang BCDA? 2343 03:18:47,680 --> 03:18:52,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang BCDA po sa kabuan ay meron pong 257 na staff. 2344 03:18:53,420 --> 03:18:54,420 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 57? 2345 03:18:55,260 --> 03:18:55,420 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 257. 2346 03:18:56,500 --> 03:18:57,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 257. Salamat po. 2347 03:18:58,540 --> 03:19:04,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilang staff naman po ang currently assigned sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park? 2348 03:19:04,980 --> 03:19:17,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa ngayon po, Madam Speaker, wala pa pong dedicated staff para po sa ating Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park kasi wala pa naman pong concrete project and wala pang concrete roles. 2349 03:19:17,800 --> 03:19:22,800 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, can the BCDA confirm that the agency? 2350 03:19:23,420 --> 03:19:39,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. Sa lahat naman po ng proyekto ng BCDA, nagbibigay po ng due proper notice ang BCDA po. 2351 03:19:40,260 --> 03:19:51,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Bilang lead agency or government agency sa implementation ng Paxilica, paano isisiguro ng BCDA na compliant po tayo sa labor laws, 2352 03:19:51,520 --> 03:19:54,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mga papasok na tech firms? 2353 03:19:55,660 --> 03:20:08,260 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, yung ating pong Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park ay ang masusunod po ay ang mga batas ng Pilipinas kasama po ang labor laws na i-implement po dito. 2354 03:20:08,720 --> 03:20:11,640 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po, tayo po ang masusunod? 2355 03:20:11,940 --> 03:20:13,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po, Madam Speaker. 2356 03:20:13,240 --> 03:20:21,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Gandang balita po yun kung tayo yung nasusunod at hindi po tayo minamandohan ng ibang bansa or ng foreign. 2357 03:20:21,520 --> 03:20:29,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Saan sa Paxilica agreement nakasaad itong labor law compliance po? 2358 03:20:29,760 --> 03:20:40,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa ngayon po, wala pa po tayong agreement. So, yung ating pong sinusunod sa lahat po ng proyekto ng BCDA ay ang ating pong Philippine labor laws. 2359 03:20:41,140 --> 03:20:47,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, ibig sabihin, wala pang provision or actual provision para dito. Pero yun yung plano. 2360 03:20:48,120 --> 03:20:50,160 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pa pong agreement, Madam Speaker. 2361 03:20:51,520 --> 03:21:03,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung may kumpanyang non-compliant sa labor laws within the Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park, may kapangyarihan ba ang BCDA palayasin o pagbayarin sila? 2362 03:21:05,260 --> 03:21:17,460 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Again, Madam Speaker, sinisigurado po ng BCDA na Philippine labor laws will apply. Pero sa ngayon po, wala pa pong existing agreement. But this is what we can assure you po. 2363 03:21:17,900 --> 03:21:19,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor. 2364 03:21:19,820 --> 03:21:21,400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po ito po. 2365 03:21:21,520 --> 03:21:46,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya, magawa po talaga natin. Kasi ilang foreign countries na rin po ang pumasok sa ating bansa. Kagaya na lamang nung nakaraan, nagkaroon po ng labor strike ang ating mga DHL workers na kung saan sinasabi nilang labor laws ng Pilipinas ang sinusunod. 2366 03:21:46,740 --> 03:21:50,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: However, nung nagkaroon na ng union sa loob ng DHL. 2367 03:21:51,520 --> 03:21:56,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Eh, bigla na lamang silang in-end yung contract ng mga workers. 2368 03:21:57,060 --> 03:22:10,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, sana po, hindi lamang po ito pangako ng Paxilica, kundi talagang magkakaroon ng provision at talagang mapanagot po natin yung kumpanya na lalabag dito. 2369 03:22:10,860 --> 03:22:18,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: With that, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, ang susunod po na katanungan ko, follow up lamang po. 2370 03:22:18,780 --> 03:22:21,400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Saan sa Paxilica agreement naman? 2371 03:22:21,520 --> 03:22:29,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Saan po, nakasaad na may kapangyarihan ang BCDA na i-penalize ang mga non-compliant companies, kung meron man po? 2372 03:22:29,940 --> 03:22:41,260 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Again, Madam Speaker, wala pa pong agreement. Pero again, sinusigurado po ng BCDA na magiging compliant po tayo sa mga batas ng Pilipinas. 2373 03:22:42,060 --> 03:22:50,340 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po, kung ano yung napag-usapan natin dito, uulitin ko po, kung sinasabi ninyo ganyan, 2374 03:22:50,340 --> 03:22:58,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: maganda po yung balita. Pero hanggat wala pong agreement, wala pong provision, wala pong papel, nakakabahala pa rin po. 2375 03:22:59,640 --> 03:23:12,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Susunod po na katanungan ko ay, paano naman po isisiguro ng BCDA na malayang makapag-unionize ang mga manggagawa sa loob ng mga development projects na ito? 2376 03:23:13,880 --> 03:23:17,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Again, Madam Speaker, we will follow Philippine labor laws. 2377 03:23:17,680 --> 03:23:21,160 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: At ito naman po ay nakasaad sa provision po natin. 2378 03:23:21,520 --> 03:23:30,860 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaugnay po nung nangyari sa DHL, sana hindi po mangyari yung nangyari sa DHL na Philippine labor law ang sinunod, 2379 03:23:31,020 --> 03:23:39,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pero nung nagka-unionize, biglang umayaw na si DHL. So sana hindi po gano'n yung mangyayari dito. 2380 03:23:40,060 --> 03:23:46,020 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano naman po isisiguro ng BCDA na ang mga manggagawang Pilipino, 2381 03:23:46,020 --> 03:23:53,280 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang majority na mahahire sa mga high quality jobs sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park? 2382 03:23:53,700 --> 03:23:59,400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Baka naman po kasi dahil foreign country yung papasok dito, 2383 03:23:59,520 --> 03:24:04,440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: baka naman po dadalhin din nila yung kanilang mga manggagawa mula sa ibang bansa. 2384 03:24:16,020 --> 03:24:31,840 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ayon po sa ating BOI, ang nakasaad po ay minimum 90% po ang mga Pilipino na magtatrabaho. 2385 03:24:31,840 --> 03:24:37,160 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As a-handing po natin yan na makikita natin sa provision or sa agreement po. 2386 03:24:38,800 --> 03:24:45,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At hindi ko na itatanong kung saan parte po yun ng agreement ng Paxilica dahil kagaya ng nasagot nyo po kanina, 2387 03:24:46,020 --> 03:24:49,500 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wala pa nga po. So sana nga, nandoon din po yan. 2388 03:24:50,980 --> 03:25:00,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As you can see, dear colleague, in the past months, Paxilica is toted as the economic miracle of the country. 2389 03:25:00,240 --> 03:25:04,000 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero wala pa palang malinaw na agreement. 2390 03:25:04,600 --> 03:25:14,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: It's extremely concerning na nag-hard launch na ang BCDA, nag-notify na sa LGU at sa mga residenteng maapektuhan. 2391 03:25:14,240 --> 03:25:20,620 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero ang sagot, lagi ay wala pa palang malinaw na kongkretong agreement. 2392 03:25:21,360 --> 03:25:28,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nagpadala na rin kayo ng notices sa mga residente, pero wala pa rin po palang agreement, no? 2393 03:25:28,700 --> 03:25:32,320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Are we being taken for a ride with this agreement? 2394 03:25:55,120 --> 03:26:04,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, as we said, wala pa pong final na mga pag-uusap. 2395 03:26:04,720 --> 03:26:06,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Meron pa lang pong mga diskusyon. 2396 03:26:07,000 --> 03:26:09,760 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Meron pa lang pong initial discussions. 2397 03:26:10,160 --> 03:26:14,160 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po, siguro kapag meron na pong feedback. 2398 03:26:14,240 --> 03:26:25,020 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: doon po natin maisasalaysay at mayuulat kung ano po yung magiging final agreements po natin. 2399 03:26:25,260 --> 03:26:28,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Naintindihan ko po ito Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor. 2400 03:26:30,060 --> 03:26:35,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Medyo nabahala lang ako doon sa nakapag-notify na wala pa palang agreement, 2401 03:26:35,320 --> 03:26:40,900 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nasa usapan pa lang pala tayo kung ano-anong mga provisions ang gagawin natin. 2402 03:26:40,900 --> 03:26:50,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi po yata tama na inonotify na natin ang mga residente para sila ay makaalis na tapos wala pa palang agreement. 2403 03:26:51,500 --> 03:26:58,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang 2027 budget ng BCDA, ang year zero bago magsimula ang construction. 2404 03:26:59,680 --> 03:27:05,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yet mukhang wala pa palang kapangyarihan ang lead agency para dito para masigurong 2405 03:27:05,740 --> 03:27:10,460 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mga Pilipino talaga ang magbe-benefit at hindi mga dayuhan. 2406 03:27:10,900 --> 03:27:20,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dadako naman po ako sa usapin at concerns ng indigenous people at mga community na maa-apektuhan ng development ng Paxilica. 2407 03:27:21,240 --> 03:27:30,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, para po sa inyong kaalaman at sa BCDA family, ako po ay isang indigenous people, isa po akong IP, 2408 03:27:31,240 --> 03:27:37,140 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kaya mahalaga po sa akin yung karapatan ng aking mga constituent na mga IP, no? 2409 03:27:37,140 --> 03:27:40,080 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, can the BCDA confirm? 2410 03:27:40,900 --> 03:27:49,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: There are indigenous peoples and indigenous cultural communities that will be affected if the project pushes through. 2411 03:27:53,960 --> 03:28:00,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, siguro para magbigay po ng mas malawak na perspektibo, 2412 03:28:01,240 --> 03:28:10,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung pong Clark Freeport Special Economic Zone ay meron pong 35,300 hectares. 2413 03:28:10,900 --> 03:28:18,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: At ito pong camp na tinutukoy natin ay 1,620 hectares lamang. 2414 03:28:20,280 --> 03:28:30,780 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Doon po sa kabuan ng 35,300, inalis na po doon, binukod na po yung ating pong mga ancestral domain. 2415 03:28:31,240 --> 03:28:38,780 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Meron pong halos 15,000 na nakabukod na po na ginagalang ng BCDA. 2416 03:28:39,900 --> 03:28:40,780 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yung kanila pong... 2417 03:28:40,900 --> 03:28:53,380 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pero dito po sa ating campsite, wala pa po, even at the NCIP level, wala pong CAD-T or CALT na nare-recognize pa po. 2418 03:28:54,520 --> 03:28:58,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po, no? Magandang balita kung sakaling ganun nga talaga. 2419 03:28:58,440 --> 03:29:02,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dahil ibig sabihin, pinapahalagahan po natin ang mga indigenous people. 2420 03:29:03,480 --> 03:29:10,520 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Gayun pa man po, gusto ko lang i-follow up na naintindihan ko na sinegregate na po natin, 2421 03:29:10,900 --> 03:29:13,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: gagal na po natin yung mga may ancestral domain. 2422 03:29:14,040 --> 03:29:21,220 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngayon, ang tanong ko po, may mga communities pa rin po ba na maapektuhan na sila ay mga indigenous people, 2423 03:29:21,360 --> 03:29:23,740 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ngunit wala lang ancestral domain? 2424 03:29:59,080 --> 03:30:08,460 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, doon po sa New Clark City Special Economic Zone, Freeport and Special Economic Zone, 2425 03:30:08,660 --> 03:30:19,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: meron pong ilang both IP and non-IP na settlers po. 2426 03:30:19,960 --> 03:30:28,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, ibig sabihin may maaapektuhan ng mga IP community na walang ancestral domain. 2427 03:30:28,700 --> 03:30:34,240 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Doon po sa area, nakasama sa 35,300 hectares. 2428 03:30:35,560 --> 03:30:48,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Doon po sa camp area, doon sa 1,600 hectares po, meron po na ilang mga IP and non-IP families. 2429 03:30:49,440 --> 03:30:55,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano po kaya ang magiging commitment ng BCDA na itong mga IP na to, 2430 03:30:55,820 --> 03:30:58,540 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: despite not having an ancestral domain, 2431 03:30:58,700 --> 03:31:04,320 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay maa-re-remain ang kanilang dignidad, 2432 03:31:04,840 --> 03:31:10,040 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ma-re-respeto pa rin ang kanilang rights as an indigenous people. 2433 03:31:10,820 --> 03:31:21,680 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can the BCDA commit na meron pa rin po tayong i-implace or i-impose na batas para sa ating mga IP constituents 2434 03:31:21,680 --> 03:31:24,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na even if wala po silang ancestral domain? 2435 03:31:28,700 --> 03:31:43,220 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, para po doon sa affected families, IP families po natin, 2436 03:31:43,700 --> 03:31:52,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: BCDA will coordinate with NCIP and the LGU para po matukoy ang kanila pong saloobin 2437 03:31:52,640 --> 03:31:58,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at siyempre tignan po kung ano po yung pwedeng mabigay natin. 2438 03:31:58,700 --> 03:32:01,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: May tulong ng ating pong gobyerno sa kanila. 2439 03:32:02,260 --> 03:32:08,960 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Hindi po natin sila, hindi isasama sa ating pong developmental and social plan. 2440 03:32:10,280 --> 03:32:22,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Definitely po, hindi po natin hahayaan na wala po tayong ibibigay na alternatibong option para po sa kanila. 2441 03:32:23,540 --> 03:32:25,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, distinguished sponsor. 2442 03:32:26,820 --> 03:32:27,960 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: With that, 2443 03:32:28,700 --> 03:32:30,560 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nire-respeto ko po ito, 2444 03:32:30,640 --> 03:32:33,400 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pero bilang ang BCDA po, 2445 03:32:33,740 --> 03:32:40,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang lead government agency na magli-lead dito sa Paxilica project na ito, 2446 03:32:40,820 --> 03:32:49,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sana po ay kayo po mismo yung bababa sa grounds at kakausap sa mga IP constituents or even non-IP constituents. 2447 03:32:50,960 --> 03:32:55,300 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Huwag po sana nating hayaan na ang sulat lang, written document lang, 2448 03:32:55,420 --> 03:32:58,680 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mag-i-inform sa kanila ng ano na pong, 2449 03:32:58,700 --> 03:33:05,440 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kung nangyayari doon po sa area of responsibility din po ng proyektong ito. 2450 03:33:05,980 --> 03:33:16,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, inaasahan ko po, sana po ay makita po natin itong improvement at saka progress po dito sa pagkakausap po sa ating mga IP constituents. 2451 03:33:17,440 --> 03:33:22,760 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: With that, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor, for closing, in closing, 2452 03:33:24,300 --> 03:33:28,660 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pasensya na po pero medyo hindi ko po kasi naiintindihan kung bakit, 2453 03:33:28,660 --> 03:33:35,820 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: minamadali din po natin yung Paxilica at ang mga planong Advanced Manufacturing Park 2454 03:33:35,820 --> 03:33:39,840 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng marami pang hindi nasasagot ng mga concerns. 2455 03:33:40,440 --> 03:33:47,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po, unahin po natin muna yung mga concerns bago po natin madaliin ang mga agreements na ito. 2456 03:33:48,560 --> 03:33:53,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Malinaw naman sa ating mga Pinoy na kung hindi nakataga sa bato, 2457 03:33:53,600 --> 03:33:58,600 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mga pangako ay posibleng napapakataon. 2458 03:33:58,660 --> 03:33:59,700 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Napapako, no? 2459 03:34:00,120 --> 03:34:02,720 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, yun lamang po ang gusto naming makita. 2460 03:34:02,980 --> 03:34:10,780 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana ito ay nakadokumento, may papeles, may agreement, may probisyon na magsesecure 2461 03:34:10,780 --> 03:34:17,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na hindi po masisira ang ating kalikasan, ang ating bansa, at ang ating komunidad. 2462 03:34:17,480 --> 03:34:25,880 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Baka mauwi lang sa pambubudol ang mga pangakong high quality jobs, mga pangakong world class technology, 2463 03:34:26,540 --> 03:34:28,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: transfer kung wala naman pala tayo. 2464 03:34:28,660 --> 03:34:30,480 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya yung nakikita pa sa agreement. 2465 03:34:31,100 --> 03:34:34,920 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: But anyway, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, maraming salamat po. 2466 03:34:35,120 --> 03:34:36,060 Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker. 2467 03:34:36,060 --> 03:34:36,880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 2468 03:34:37,000 --> 03:34:37,700 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: ... 2469 03:34:37,840 --> 03:34:42,820 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Ko for her interpellation. 2470 03:34:42,980 --> 03:34:45,260 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Ko is hereby recognized. Please proceed. 2471 03:34:46,820 --> 03:34:48,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 2472 03:34:49,120 --> 03:34:53,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magandang gabi sa ating Distinguished Sponsor ngayong gabi. 2473 03:34:54,140 --> 03:34:58,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maari po bang sumagot ng ilang tanong tungkol sa... 2474 03:34:58,660 --> 03:35:04,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa budget at mga pulisiya na gusto pong ipatupad ng BCDA? 2475 03:35:05,120 --> 03:35:06,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2476 03:35:06,600 --> 03:35:08,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor. 2477 03:35:09,440 --> 03:35:14,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang una po nating tanong ay ang announcement din, 2478 03:35:14,020 --> 03:35:19,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi lang ng BCDA pero iba-iba rin pong ahensya ng gobyerno 2479 03:35:19,360 --> 03:35:27,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng April 16, 2026, pumirma ang Pilipinas sa Pax Silica Declaration. 2480 03:35:27,740 --> 03:35:31,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can I get a confirmation if that's true, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor? 2481 03:35:32,500 --> 03:35:33,820 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2482 03:35:35,080 --> 03:35:40,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pumirma po ang Pilipinas sa isang non-binding statement of shared principles. 2483 03:35:42,320 --> 03:35:44,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2484 03:35:45,040 --> 03:35:53,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa website ng Board of Investments na nakuha natin ang access dito dahil dinirect po tayo 2485 03:35:53,940 --> 03:35:57,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng Board of Investments mismo sa DTI. 2486 03:35:58,700 --> 03:36:04,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: budget briefing. Meron po ditong sulat, liham galing sa BCDA 2487 03:36:04,300 --> 03:36:21,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ?Proposal for a Pax Silica Coordination Office in Clark,? dated April 9, 2026. May I get a confirmation kung ito po ay pinadala ng BCDA? 2488 03:36:21,000 --> 03:36:23,600 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2489 03:36:23,600 --> 03:36:26,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, meron po tayong mga katanungan 2490 03:36:26,400 --> 03:36:29,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tungkol po sa liham na ito 2491 03:36:29,300 --> 03:36:46,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At ang mga nagsunod-sunod ng developments na nag-arise from the signing of this statement and subsequent plans, proposals, declarations ng iba't-ibang ahensya ng gobyerno. 2492 03:36:46,120 --> 03:37:15,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ayon po dito sa April 9, 2026 letter ng BCDA, binubukas niya po ang 4,000 hectares acres strategically located in the Luzon Economic Corridor under a lease-free agreement may grace period of two years bilang offer of in-kind contribution towards developing and advancing the bilateral economic security partnership between the governments of the Philippines 2493 03:37:16,120 --> 03:37:45,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the United States of America. May scope and objectives, meron pong paglatag ng terms at ng legal basis. Ang tanong ko po, if the offer of land proceeded or was simultaneous with the country's formal partnership, ano pong otoridad o propriety na meron ng BCDA to commit up to 4,000 acres of sovereign state land to a foreign coalition, 2494 03:37:45,180 --> 03:37:50,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Philippines had not yet formally joined. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, maaari po ba tayong ma-enlighten dito? 2495 03:37:51,260 --> 03:38:13,020 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, katulad po ng nabanggit ng ating distinguished colleague, ito po ay isang proposal na pinadala po ng BCDA. Hindi po ito na iba sa mga proposal na pinapadala ng BCDA bilang isang IPA or Investment Promotions Agency. Ito po kasi talaga yung mandato nila. 2496 03:38:15,180 --> 03:38:26,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano pong basihan kung bakit nagbukas ng proposal ang BCDA ng April 9, 2026 via letter sa Estados Unidos? 2497 03:38:40,140 --> 03:38:44,980 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang basihan po ng proposal na pinadala ng BCDA. 2498 03:38:45,180 --> 03:38:56,220 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay yung mismong Republic Act na nag-create sa BCDA plus po yung isa pa po nating batas na Investor's Lease Act. 2499 03:38:58,580 --> 03:39:05,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mayroon po bang mga relevant agencies o kaya po ang presidente na nag-authorize ng offer na ito in advance? 2500 03:39:05,680 --> 03:39:13,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Was anyone outside the BCDA involved in crafting this offer and authorizing this offer? 2501 03:39:15,180 --> 03:39:40,580 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito pong proposal ay bunga ng ating pong pagsapi sa deklarasyon at dahil ito po ay pinadala sa ibang bansa, ito po ay nireview ng iba't ibang mga national agencies cleared para ipadala ng BCDA. 2502 03:39:40,580 --> 03:39:44,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, to clarify, ano pong deklarasyon na ito? 2503 03:39:45,180 --> 03:39:46,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Na na-mention ninyo? 2504 03:39:47,140 --> 03:39:48,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung Paxilica Declaration po. 2505 03:39:48,860 --> 03:40:03,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero ang tanong Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, prior to the sending of this letter ng April 9, ang presidente po ba o kahit anong relevant na ahensya ng gobyerno nag-authorize in advance of this offer? 2506 03:40:03,240 --> 03:40:05,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So prior to April 9, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 2507 03:40:06,760 --> 03:40:15,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker, kinlear po ito ng DOJ at in-endorse po ng DTI, ng DFA. 2508 03:40:15,820 --> 03:40:25,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So may clearance, endorsement ng DOJ and DFA prior to April 9, prior to sending the proposal? 2509 03:40:25,740 --> 03:40:26,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2510 03:40:27,440 --> 03:40:35,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kailan po ito ginawa ng DOJ and DFA? Kailan po na-receive ng BCDA itong clearances and endorsements? 2511 03:40:38,900 --> 03:40:40,240 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito po ay... 2512 03:40:45,180 --> 03:40:59,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: The day before April 9, Madam Speaker. 2513 03:41:01,120 --> 03:41:08,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bakit po, curiosity, ang DOJ kailangang i-clear at i-endorse itong offer na ito? 2514 03:41:15,180 --> 03:41:26,780 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: To ensure po na ito po ay compliant sa ating pong BCDA Act at sa Investors Lease Act. 2515 03:41:27,240 --> 03:41:29,980 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: And Philippine laws po, Madam Speaker. 2516 03:41:30,160 --> 03:41:39,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is the DepDev ever consulted about the offer prior to the BCDA making it? 2517 03:41:39,680 --> 03:41:52,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Hindi po, Madam Speaker, kasi ito po ay isang preliminary proposal pa lang po. 2518 03:41:54,520 --> 03:42:07,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Other than the DOJ and DFA, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, sino pa po ba involved dito sa pagbuo ng terms, ng scope ng proposal na ito? 2519 03:42:11,220 --> 03:42:16,060 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Aside from DOJ, DFA, BCDA po, and BOI. 2520 03:42:17,120 --> 03:42:38,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kung maari din po natin makuha yun in a report na paglalatag ng sino pong mga ahensya, sino pong mga heads of agencies ang involved sa pagbuo ng proposal because I assume this high level of proposal, kahit sabihin mang preliminary, 2521 03:42:38,900 --> 03:42:57,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marami pong recurso ang pinag-uusapan, ang tinataya, at hindi naman po basta-basta lang na mga ahensya na hindi na konsulta sa appropriate other government bodies na magagawa ito. 2522 03:42:57,040 --> 03:42:58,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2523 03:42:58,880 --> 03:42:59,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2524 03:42:59,420 --> 03:43:08,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kung maari din po ang mga dates at inputs at mga endorsements na ginawa na relevant ng mga DOJ, ng mga ahensya. 2525 03:43:10,600 --> 03:43:13,200 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker, we will comply. 2526 03:43:13,200 --> 03:43:38,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ang sunod nating tanong: ang Department of Agriculture o ang Department of Agrarian Reform ba nakonsulta ng BCDA bago po binuksan sa isang offer ang lupain na in-identify for Pax Silica, given that the site displaces active farmland in Tarlac? 2527 03:43:38,900 --> 03:43:57,400 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, ito pong pinag-uusapan po natin, public land under Clark Freeport and special economic zone, ito po ay naka-master plan na bilang isang economic zone po for industrial development. 2528 03:43:57,400 --> 03:44:03,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is the sponsor denying agricultural displacement? 2529 03:44:08,900 --> 03:44:16,580 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, hindi po classified as agricultural land itong pinag-uusapan po nating subject area. 2530 03:44:17,860 --> 03:44:26,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may sinasayit na essentially legal tag sa lupain na ito. 2531 03:44:26,600 --> 03:44:38,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang reality, however, ay around May this year, residents of Barangay Santa Lucia, Capas, says that PCDA sent a one-month eviction notice. 2532 03:44:38,900 --> 03:44:40,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Without prior consultation. 2533 03:44:40,920 --> 03:44:47,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And several farmers also claimed PCDA had offered to purchase their land for only 30 pesos per square meter. 2534 03:44:47,640 --> 03:44:59,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And in August, around 92 farmers in Barangay O'Donnell, Capas, Tarlac have reportedly been urged by the PCDA to vacate the farmland they have been cultivating. 2535 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:16,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Residents of Sitio Sapangkawayan, Barangay Aranguren, said the project could displace families from ancestral land where generations have lived and farmed while also putting their burial grounds, livelihood, and community institutions at risk. 2536 03:45:16,600 --> 03:45:31,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May mga senators po calling for a Senate probe amid complaints that farmers are allegedly being ordered to stop planting and are facing intimidation, arguing any land use conversion must follow due process under DAR rules. 2537 03:45:31,720 --> 03:45:39,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marami po tayong data, gaya na rin po sa preliminary, and preliminary pa lang po ito, na studies ng mga ibang ahensya. 2538 03:45:39,000 --> 03:45:44,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The DA noted that 15,200 farmers might lose their agricultural land. 2539 03:45:44,700 --> 03:45:52,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And a civil society organization, Calicasan, said the project could result in the long-term displacement of around 20,000 AITA residents. 2540 03:45:53,760 --> 03:45:59,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May sinasabi po na hindi po ito tagged as agricultural land. 2541 03:45:59,600 --> 03:46:07,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But is the BCDA aware of this when it made the proposal na may 20,000 AITA residents na nariyan? 2542 03:46:07,400 --> 03:46:12,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron pong 15,200 farmers na maaari pong mawala ang kanilang lupain. 2543 03:46:13,300 --> 03:46:14,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At ngayon po. 2544 03:46:14,700 --> 03:46:18,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po yung paraan kung paano niya pinapatigil ito. 2545 03:46:19,300 --> 03:46:25,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Reports of harassment, intimidation, para makuha, maklear yung lupain. 2546 03:46:26,080 --> 03:46:27,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2547 03:46:27,760 --> 03:46:30,120 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. 2548 03:46:30,620 --> 03:46:38,760 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Siguro parang meron pong discrepancy sa mga bilang na, malalaking mga bilang na naisalaysay po ninyo. 2549 03:46:39,500 --> 03:46:44,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: We would like to request for a copy of this para ma-review po ng BCDA. 2550 03:46:44,700 --> 03:46:57,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pero sa ngayon po, wala pong 20,000 farmers displaced and wala rin pong 20,000 AITAS displaced. 2551 03:46:58,880 --> 03:47:07,040 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: In fact, again, ito pong pinag-uusapan po nating lupa ay special economic zone, hindi po siya agricultural. 2552 03:47:07,040 --> 03:47:14,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: And yung kabuan po ng 35,300 hectares, nakabukod po. 2553 03:47:14,700 --> 03:47:20,040 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito po yung mga lupain na under ng DAR area. 2554 03:47:20,860 --> 03:47:26,960 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito po ay merong kabuang 10,700 hectares under DAR farmlands. 2555 03:47:27,880 --> 03:47:29,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2556 03:47:29,320 --> 03:47:40,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To clarify, ang binigay ng mga numero ng kinatawan na ito ay mga estimates kung tuloy-tuloy na mangyari yung mga displacement na ongoing na po ngayon. 2557 03:47:40,580 --> 03:47:44,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So ito po ay mga public pronouncements from civil society. 2558 03:47:44,700 --> 03:47:50,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po ay mga public pronouncements from civil society organizations na maaari din pong i-furnish ng representasyon na ito ng kopya. 2559 03:47:50,580 --> 03:48:04,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But nonetheless, ang tanong po natin ay despite yung pagsabi na meron pong ganitong pagtag na this is land under special economic zone. 2560 03:48:04,980 --> 03:48:06,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang reality po, may AITA po doon. 2561 03:48:06,840 --> 03:48:09,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nagpunta po tayo, Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2562 03:48:10,140 --> 03:48:14,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron pong nagkiklaim that for the longest time, naroon sila sa lupa. 2563 03:48:14,700 --> 03:48:16,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ngayon, burial ground din po nila. 2564 03:48:17,120 --> 03:48:21,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: They have been farming for generations in the land that was provided. 2565 03:48:21,460 --> 03:48:22,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2566 03:48:22,860 --> 03:48:32,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang tanong ko, may FPIC po bang obtained from or even sought from the AITA community in Sitio, Sapang, Kawayan before the offer was extended to a foreign government? 2567 03:48:32,760 --> 03:48:43,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nagkaroon po ba ng opportunity ang BCDA para i-check na okay, kahit ito nakalagay as special economic zone land to na may mga magsasaka po doon? 2568 03:48:44,700 --> 03:48:49,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At kinausap, kinonsulta, kinuha yung FPIC bago po ginawa yung offer na ito. 2569 03:48:50,280 --> 03:48:58,060 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, ito pong pinag-uusapan po nating area para po sa camp. 2570 03:48:58,580 --> 03:49:00,960 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pong ancestral domain dito. 2571 03:49:01,460 --> 03:49:03,660 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pong CADT or CALT po dito. 2572 03:49:04,120 --> 03:49:05,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2573 03:49:05,920 --> 03:49:14,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Under the Indigenous People's Rights Act, FPIC is supposed to precede decisions affecting ancestral domain, not follow a commitment. 2574 03:49:14,700 --> 03:49:16,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Already made internationally. 2575 03:49:17,220 --> 03:49:20,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So I'd like to confirm, i-confirm yung sequence. 2576 03:49:21,260 --> 03:49:28,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The land was offered to the U.S. for the Paxilica project bago po magkaroon ng any consultation, 2577 03:49:28,680 --> 03:49:33,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: even though sinabi na as of now, wala pong CADT. 2578 03:49:35,460 --> 03:49:38,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pong FPIC kasi po wala pong CADT. 2579 03:49:40,440 --> 03:49:42,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2580 03:49:42,380 --> 03:49:43,620 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang sunod po nating tanong. 2581 03:49:44,000 --> 03:49:44,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I'd like to... 2582 03:49:44,700 --> 03:49:47,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Loop back and circle back to that data, no? 2583 03:49:47,220 --> 03:49:54,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Given that BCDA has acknowledged on the record at the August 14th Senate hearing that consultations have not been completed 2584 03:49:54,700 --> 03:49:59,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and investors have yet to submit a development plan, 2585 03:49:59,380 --> 03:50:04,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does BCDA consider it appropriate governance practice to make an international commitment first 2586 03:50:04,640 --> 03:50:11,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and complete domestic due diligence, agricultural impact, environmental assessment, indigenous consent, 2587 03:50:11,980 --> 03:50:14,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: local government coordination pagkatapos? 2588 03:50:14,220 --> 03:50:30,020 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, again, ito pong subject area na pinag-uusapan po natin ay special freeport, freeport and special economic zone. 2589 03:50:31,620 --> 03:50:36,220 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yung ating pong proposal ay preliminary lamang po. 2590 03:50:37,460 --> 03:50:42,540 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po wala pong FPIC na ginanap. 2591 03:50:42,540 --> 03:50:43,540 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kasi po hindi po... 2592 03:50:44,220 --> 03:50:49,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pong ancestral domain dito po sa subject area. 2593 03:50:50,380 --> 03:50:51,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2594 03:50:51,700 --> 03:50:58,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano po hinaharap ng BCDA yung issue na lumalabas ngayon ang mga iilang magsasaka 2595 03:50:58,160 --> 03:51:04,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that they're claiming na may ancestral lands and domain po sila? 2596 03:51:04,180 --> 03:51:08,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sabihin po natin na as of now, there is no certificate. 2597 03:51:08,920 --> 03:51:13,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero may grupo pong lumalabas, sinasabi ang doon sila. 2598 03:51:13,140 --> 03:51:16,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron silang pruweba that they've been occupying that for the longest time. 2599 03:51:17,620 --> 03:51:25,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi po ba dapat i-halt natin ang lahat at kausapin sila, i-finalize, i-clear po itong lahat bago tayo mag-proceed? 2600 03:51:26,120 --> 03:51:34,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Because unfortunately, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ang nakita natin na developments posted by the U.S. Embassy in the Philippines 2601 03:51:34,640 --> 03:51:36,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and covered by... 2602 03:51:37,760 --> 03:51:43,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even posted by the United States Secretary of State. 2603 03:51:43,140 --> 03:51:47,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Jacob Helberg ay may Pax Silica marker nang ina-unveil. 2604 03:51:47,560 --> 03:51:52,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi po ba ito, hindi ba advanced masyado ang thinking dito? 2605 03:51:52,460 --> 03:51:56,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na't may naghahabol na nandyan po ang lupain namin. 2606 03:51:56,880 --> 03:52:01,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At syempre, madidisplace kami, mawawalan po kami ng lupa kung tutuloy-tuloy ito. 2607 03:52:13,140 --> 03:52:39,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, again, itong subject area ay Freeport and Special Economic Zone. 2608 03:52:39,640 --> 03:52:42,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po, mandato po ng BCDA. 2609 03:52:43,140 --> 03:52:52,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Na as an investments promotions agency, na magamit ito for productive use para po sa matugunan yung kanilang mandato. 2610 03:52:53,840 --> 03:53:01,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, with all due respect to our colleague and of course, sa pagkilala pa rin naman ng batas at mandato ng iba't ibang ahensya, 2611 03:53:03,040 --> 03:53:04,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: maaari po nating... 2612 03:53:05,600 --> 03:53:11,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This representation can think of various answers to that question such as, 2613 03:53:11,460 --> 03:53:12,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pwede po nating itigil? 2614 03:53:13,140 --> 03:53:23,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I-pause muna ang pagproseso ng proyekto until ma-resolve natin yung mga issues regarding farmers that have conflicting claims about the land. 2615 03:53:24,140 --> 03:53:34,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Despite the fact na may saklaw nga pong batas, despite the fact na may identified lands, na sinasabi ito po, Special Economic Zone ito. 2616 03:53:34,920 --> 03:53:40,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, meron pong mga claims ang mga farmers. 2617 03:53:40,780 --> 03:53:42,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May claims ang ITAS. 2618 03:53:42,080 --> 03:53:43,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ITAS po ang mga farmers. 2619 03:53:43,140 --> 03:53:55,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung pinakaunang mga tribo na nakalapag sa Pilipinas, sa kasaysayan natin, they predate the concept of the Philippine State. 2620 03:53:56,320 --> 03:54:07,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And most likely, they can make claims as long as meron silang evidence which even might predate yung concept ng mga batas natin dito ngayon. 2621 03:54:07,360 --> 03:54:12,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, hindi po ba natin dapat ikonsidera yung kanilang mga... 2622 03:54:13,140 --> 03:54:24,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nilalapag ng mga threat, banta sa kanilang buhay, sa kanilang kabuhayan, bago po mag-proceed further sa ganitong proyekto? 2623 03:54:25,420 --> 03:54:30,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala pong threat sa kanilang mga buhay. 2624 03:54:31,320 --> 03:54:39,660 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Alam po ng ating mga farmers na itong lupa na ito ay nakatitulo sa BCDA. 2625 03:54:39,980 --> 03:54:42,980 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito po ay Freeport and Special Economic Zone. 2626 03:54:43,140 --> 03:54:53,240 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Claro po ito sa kanila sa mga dialogues and sa mga groundwork na ginagawa po ng BCDA. 2627 03:54:54,020 --> 03:55:02,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, I find it hard to believe na tatanggapin na lang po ng mga ITA tribes, ng mga grupo ng mga magsasaka, 2628 03:55:02,680 --> 03:55:10,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may pumunta pong biglang mga government officials and employees in suits at sasabihin nila, 2629 03:55:10,780 --> 03:55:13,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: actually po, yung lupang tinitilikan ninyo. 2630 03:55:13,260 --> 03:55:17,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pagmamayari po yan ng pamahalaan, kailangan na pong i-clear dahil po may proyekto pong pupunta dyan. 2631 03:55:18,440 --> 03:55:25,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, let just the record show that this representation repeatedly asked, 2632 03:55:26,180 --> 03:55:35,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung ano pong response ng BCDA sa mga paulit-ulit na concerns ng mga magsasaka, ng mga tribo na sinasabi, 2633 03:55:36,220 --> 03:55:42,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito po kami nakatira, dito po ang aming kabuhayan, and the response that I've been getting is, 2634 03:55:43,140 --> 03:55:53,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but the law provides that this particular land is part and tag under the applicable laws like the Special Economic Zone. 2635 03:55:54,060 --> 03:56:00,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, as I have my time is limited, I would move on to the next line of questioning, 2636 03:56:01,380 --> 03:56:09,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at tungkol naman po ito sa mismong batas na nire-refer, which is RA 7916, or the Special Economic Zone Act, 2637 03:56:09,840 --> 03:56:12,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na pinasa in 1995 with the express... 2638 03:56:13,140 --> 03:56:20,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statutory purpose of promoting technology-intensive industries that will modernize the country's industrial sector 2639 03:56:20,020 --> 03:56:27,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and enabling technology transfer and managerial know-how to transfer them to domestic firms. 2640 03:56:27,700 --> 03:56:36,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Three decades later, gusto po natin makita from BCDA to cite specific, measurable instances of technology transfer 2641 03:56:36,580 --> 03:56:42,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and modernization of industrial sector directly due to PESA-registered firms, 2642 03:56:43,140 --> 03:56:49,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or Philippine-owned manufacturing capacity, not just employment figures but, Madam Speaker, to note, 2643 03:56:49,240 --> 03:57:00,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: IP transfer, domestic supplier upgrading, or Filipino-owned firms that graduated into higher value-added production because of eco-zone spillovers. 2644 03:57:00,440 --> 03:57:03,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is that data available right now, Madam Speaker, good sponsor? 2645 03:57:05,540 --> 03:57:12,980 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Right now, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala pa yung data sa amin, but we will, if you will allow, we will submit that. 2646 03:57:14,800 --> 03:57:43,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, aantayin po natin yung report na iyon dahil po kung ang sinasabi na rason kung bakit po dapat magkaroon ng Pax Silica ay ang basehan ay ang Special Economic Zone Act, it has been in place actually three decades now. So we would like to see ano po ba yung naging progress from when it was passed up to now kung paano po 2647 03:57:43,120 --> 03:57:54,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, inactualize yung batas. Paano po nagkaroon ng technology-intensive industries dahil po nagkaroon ng modernization of industrial sector 2648 03:57:54,900 --> 03:58:01,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na supposedly BCDA is at the lead if not one of the agencies ought to implement this. 2649 03:58:01,800 --> 03:58:05,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, iintayin po natin yung report na iyon. 2650 03:58:06,120 --> 03:58:07,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Madam Speaker. 2651 03:58:07,020 --> 03:58:13,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang final question na lang po, Madam Speaker, may napansin tayo that in that proportion, 2652 03:58:13,120 --> 03:58:22,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the proposal letter to the U.S. State Department, it does explicitly state that RA 7916 is the governing law for personnel arrangements at the site. 2653 03:58:23,100 --> 03:58:33,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero po, noong July, BCDA's president told the press that the project would instead be covered by the BCDA law and create more. 2654 03:58:33,920 --> 03:58:41,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, we'd like to clarify, which fiscal and legal framework ultimately governs the Paxilica Coordination Office? 2655 03:58:42,300 --> 03:58:43,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2656 03:58:43,120 --> 03:59:05,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang legal basis po ay yung BCDA law at yung create more, which is an update of the 7916 RA. 2657 03:59:06,680 --> 03:59:09,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2658 03:59:10,960 --> 03:59:12,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Iintay natin yung iba't-ibang... 2659 03:59:13,120 --> 03:59:16,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Iintay natin yung mga reports na ni-request ng kinatawa na ito. 2660 03:59:16,640 --> 03:59:20,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But as a final manifestation, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2661 03:59:21,620 --> 03:59:30,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang mga napansin natin, mga iba't-ibang arrangements na in-undertake under the Special Economic Zone Act, 2662 03:59:30,920 --> 03:59:34,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we surmise it won't be as different sa gagawin sa Paxilica. 2663 03:59:34,980 --> 03:59:42,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And given three decades of implementation under these models, we'd like to see from BCDA concrete evidence, 2664 03:59:43,120 --> 03:59:53,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not just projections, that these incentives have generated domestic supply chains, 2665 03:59:53,720 --> 04:00:00,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: import substitution industrialization, or measurable technology transfer into Filipino-owned... 2666 04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:02,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in any existing eco-zone. 2667 04:00:03,540 --> 04:00:07,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dahil po kung hindi natin makita ang ebidensya na ito, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 2668 04:00:07,880 --> 04:00:13,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we would be hard-pressed to see ano pong basihan sa expectation that the same tools 2669 04:00:13,780 --> 04:00:19,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which will be used in Paxilica will produce national industrialization this time. 2670 04:00:19,580 --> 04:00:21,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This time will be different. 2671 04:00:21,960 --> 04:00:26,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Rather than another high-value enclave that imports capital equipment, 2672 04:00:26,580 --> 04:00:33,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: employs a comparatively small-skilled workforce, limited din pa dito ang mga Pinoy, 2673 04:00:33,620 --> 04:00:38,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and will export finished output with limited multiplier effect on the broader economy. 2674 04:00:39,240 --> 04:00:43,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, I no longer have any further questions. 2675 04:00:43,760 --> 04:00:49,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We would be eager to see the results of the information that we requested. 2676 04:00:49,980 --> 04:00:51,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 2677 04:00:52,610 --> 04:00:53,870 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much. 2678 04:00:53,870 --> 04:00:55,940 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize, 2679 04:00:55,940 --> 04:00:58,380 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Honorable Elago for her interpellation. 2680 04:00:58,480 --> 04:01:00,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Ilago is hereby recognized. 2681 04:01:04,020 --> 04:01:06,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 2682 04:01:06,260 --> 04:01:08,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nabanggit ho ito ng ating distinguished sponsor kanina. 2683 04:01:09,140 --> 04:01:14,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ilalim ng Presidential Proclamation 163 noong 1993, 2684 04:01:14,660 --> 04:01:20,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may 10,724 hectares na excluded sa Clark Special Economic Zone 2685 04:01:20,840 --> 04:01:25,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at dapat itong i-turn over sa Department of Agrarian Reform 2686 04:01:25,080 --> 04:01:25,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ilalim. 2687 04:01:25,940 --> 04:01:27,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nalipat na ba ito ng BCDA? 2688 04:01:28,760 --> 04:01:30,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nailipat na po ba sa DAR? 2689 04:01:30,960 --> 04:01:32,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kailan ito nalipat? 2690 04:01:32,640 --> 04:01:34,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May deed of transfer na po ba? 2691 04:01:36,020 --> 04:01:43,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 2692 04:01:44,460 --> 04:01:46,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: by means of the proclamation, 2693 04:01:47,080 --> 04:01:52,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: itong area po ito ay excluded na sa Clark Freeport and Special Economic Zone. 2694 04:01:54,780 --> 04:01:55,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang katanungan, 2695 04:01:55,940 --> 04:02:02,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ay kung nailipat na nga sa DAR at mayroong deed of transfer. 2696 04:02:02,000 --> 04:02:13,760 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala po siya sa jurisdiksyon ng BCDA. 2697 04:02:13,760 --> 04:02:25,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Maybe we can inquire and check with DAR if ano yung status ng tenorial document for these areas. 2698 04:02:28,120 --> 04:02:30,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Itatanong natin ito, Madam Speaker, sa harap ng DAR. 2699 04:02:31,160 --> 04:02:33,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit marami din sa DAR actually nagtatanong 2700 04:02:33,660 --> 04:02:36,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol dito sa deed of transfer na ito 2701 04:02:36,000 --> 04:02:37,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para humalinaw 2702 04:02:37,080 --> 04:02:38,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil hindi po biro 2703 04:02:38,380 --> 04:02:41,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung nasa 10,724 hectares 2704 04:02:41,880 --> 04:02:42,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na dapat sana 2705 04:02:42,780 --> 04:02:43,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: inagagamat natin 2706 04:02:43,940 --> 04:02:46,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa lokal na agrikultura 2707 04:02:46,500 --> 04:02:48,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa panahon ngayon 2708 04:02:48,420 --> 04:02:50,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tumataas na 2709 04:02:50,360 --> 04:02:52,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating food import dependence 2710 04:02:52,360 --> 04:02:54,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa bigas, 2711 04:02:54,640 --> 04:02:55,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mais, 2712 04:02:55,440 --> 04:02:55,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa mga 2713 04:02:55,860 --> 04:02:58,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pangunahing pagkain ng ating 2714 04:02:58,020 --> 04:02:58,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga kababayan. 2715 04:03:00,740 --> 04:03:01,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung meron pong ulat, 2716 04:03:02,860 --> 04:03:03,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, 2717 04:03:04,060 --> 04:03:05,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang BCDA, 2718 04:03:06,380 --> 04:03:07,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol dito, tungkol sa history, 2719 04:03:08,160 --> 04:03:09,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung may mga naging pag-uusap, 2720 04:03:09,880 --> 04:03:12,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol dito sa 10,724, 2721 04:03:12,260 --> 04:03:14,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay may ulat na lang sa representasyon 2722 04:03:14,400 --> 04:03:16,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito at sa ating kapulungan. 2723 04:03:17,280 --> 04:03:18,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, Madam Speaker, 2724 04:03:18,400 --> 04:03:19,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Distinguished Colleague. 2725 04:03:20,860 --> 04:03:22,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, sa deliberasyon 2726 04:03:22,400 --> 04:03:24,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naman ng budget ng DENR, 2727 04:03:24,380 --> 04:03:26,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na-confirma nila 2728 04:03:26,140 --> 04:03:28,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na wala pang environmental impact assessment 2729 04:03:28,600 --> 04:03:30,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na na-apply o na-process 2730 04:03:30,220 --> 04:03:32,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa Paxilica. At wala pa rin 2731 04:03:32,460 --> 04:03:34,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malinaw na project description 2732 04:03:34,480 --> 04:03:36,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na na-isusumite sa 2733 04:03:36,060 --> 04:03:37,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Environmental Management Bureau. 2734 04:03:38,140 --> 04:03:40,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sabi ng DENR, ang existing 2735 04:03:40,200 --> 04:03:42,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ECC ay para sa 2736 04:03:42,020 --> 04:03:44,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: BCDA Master Development Plan. 2737 04:03:45,060 --> 04:03:46,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung may ganitong plano 2738 04:03:46,040 --> 04:03:48,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pamahalaan sa Paxilica, 2739 04:03:48,960 --> 04:03:50,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bakit wala pa rin po bang 2740 04:03:50,440 --> 04:03:51,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ina-apply na 2741 04:03:51,960 --> 04:03:53,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: environmental impact assessment? 2742 04:03:53,620 --> 04:03:55,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung hindi pa nasusuri 2743 04:03:55,500 --> 04:03:57,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang environmental impact 2744 04:03:57,640 --> 04:03:59,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng proyekto, paano natin 2745 04:03:59,680 --> 04:04:01,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: masasabing ligtas ito 2746 04:04:01,440 --> 04:04:03,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa lupa, tubig, 2747 04:04:03,600 --> 04:04:05,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agrikultura, sa ating kalikasan 2748 04:04:05,700 --> 04:04:07,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa mga communities 2749 04:04:07,260 --> 04:04:09,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakapaligid sa nasabing area? 2750 04:04:10,040 --> 04:04:11,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished 2751 04:04:11,720 --> 04:04:13,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Colleague, tama po kayo 2752 04:04:13,700 --> 04:04:15,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ang meron pong ECC 2753 04:04:15,720 --> 04:04:17,600 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ang BCDA dun sa kanilang 2754 04:04:17,600 --> 04:04:19,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Master Development Plan. 2755 04:04:20,220 --> 04:04:21,660 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pero dahil wala 2756 04:04:21,660 --> 04:04:22,300 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pa pong 2757 04:04:23,620 --> 04:04:25,820 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: final agreements, wala 2758 04:04:25,820 --> 04:04:27,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pa pong final projects, 2759 04:04:27,900 --> 04:04:29,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: wala pa po talagang pwedeng i-apply 2760 04:04:29,740 --> 04:04:31,660 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa DENR. 2761 04:04:34,140 --> 04:04:35,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, maghihingi na lang 2762 04:04:35,980 --> 04:04:37,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tayo ng kopya ng 2763 04:04:37,560 --> 04:04:39,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ECC ng BCDA 2764 04:04:39,680 --> 04:04:42,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa kanilang Master Development Plan. 2765 04:04:42,800 --> 04:04:43,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari po ba natin itong 2766 04:04:43,800 --> 04:04:45,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makuha ngayong gabi? 2767 04:04:47,640 --> 04:04:49,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, 2768 04:04:49,560 --> 04:04:51,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga katutubong AITA at magsasaka 2769 04:04:51,600 --> 04:04:53,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Kapas Tarlac, nagsagawa po siya 2770 04:04:53,620 --> 04:04:55,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sila ng petisyon para ipahinto 2771 04:04:55,860 --> 04:04:57,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong mga 2772 04:04:57,120 --> 04:04:59,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: efforts ngayon na may kinalaman 2773 04:04:59,820 --> 04:05:02,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Paxilica. Nakakuha na sila 2774 04:05:02,100 --> 04:05:04,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: so far ng 400,000 2775 04:05:04,120 --> 04:05:05,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: verified signatures. 2776 04:05:06,180 --> 04:05:07,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isang ayon naman sa Kapas Town 2777 04:05:07,660 --> 04:05:10,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Government, na higit 30% 2778 04:05:10,260 --> 04:05:12,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lupa ay produktibong 2779 04:05:12,140 --> 04:05:13,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lupang agrikultural. 2780 04:05:13,720 --> 04:05:15,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin, meron talagang 2781 04:05:15,660 --> 04:05:17,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga magsasaka na apektado, 2782 04:05:18,120 --> 04:05:19,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron talagang may kabuhayan 2783 04:05:19,500 --> 04:05:21,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pagsasaka na maapektuhan. 2784 04:05:21,460 --> 04:05:23,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nag-apply na po ba ang BCDA? 2785 04:05:23,620 --> 04:05:26,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng land conversion order para rito? 2786 04:05:27,100 --> 04:05:27,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 2787 04:05:28,060 --> 04:05:29,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: distinguished colleague, again, 2788 04:05:30,580 --> 04:05:31,060 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito pong 2789 04:05:31,060 --> 04:05:33,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: subject area po natin para sa 2790 04:05:33,720 --> 04:05:35,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Clark Advanced Manufacturing 2791 04:05:35,920 --> 04:05:37,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Park, ay isa ay 2792 04:05:37,920 --> 04:05:39,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: titulado sa BCDA 2793 04:05:39,720 --> 04:05:41,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: as a special economic 2794 04:05:41,920 --> 04:05:44,080 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: zone. So, wala pong 2795 04:05:44,080 --> 04:05:45,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: conversion na kailangan 2796 04:05:45,640 --> 04:05:47,380 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: gawin. And 2797 04:05:47,380 --> 04:05:51,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: that's it, Madam Speaker. 2798 04:05:51,880 --> 04:05:52,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, 2799 04:05:52,460 --> 04:05:54,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi-dismiss na lang po ba 2800 04:05:54,580 --> 04:05:56,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin itong sinabi po 2801 04:05:57,140 --> 04:05:59,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng puno ng lokal na 2802 04:05:59,360 --> 04:06:00,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pamahalaan ng Kapas, 2803 04:06:01,500 --> 04:06:02,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mahigit 30% 2804 04:06:02,800 --> 04:06:04,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lupa na yan ay 2805 04:06:04,120 --> 04:06:06,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: productive agricultural land. 2806 04:06:06,860 --> 04:06:08,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa tingin ko, isa po itong 2807 04:06:08,520 --> 04:06:10,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bagay na hindi natin basta-basta 2808 04:06:10,980 --> 04:06:12,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isasantabi. 2809 04:06:12,740 --> 04:06:14,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil nga ho, sa panahon 2810 04:06:14,780 --> 04:06:16,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kinakailangan natin na 2811 04:06:16,520 --> 04:06:18,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: preserbahin, proteksyonan 2812 04:06:18,280 --> 04:06:20,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating prime 2813 04:06:20,380 --> 04:06:22,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agricultural lands, ay 2814 04:06:22,300 --> 04:06:24,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nararapat lamang na 2815 04:06:24,060 --> 04:06:25,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi po natin basta-basta 2816 04:06:25,800 --> 04:06:28,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: baliwalain ang ganitong mga pahayag. 2817 04:06:28,820 --> 04:06:30,360 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished 2818 04:06:30,360 --> 04:06:32,560 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: colleague, baka po 2819 04:06:32,560 --> 04:06:34,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: merong discrepancy 2820 04:06:34,740 --> 04:06:36,400 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: dun sa sinasabi po ng ating 2821 04:06:36,400 --> 04:06:38,580 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: mga magsasaka sa tinuturing 2822 04:06:38,580 --> 04:06:40,840 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: po nilang lupa na mawawala 2823 04:06:40,840 --> 04:06:42,240 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: na kanila pong 2824 04:06:42,240 --> 04:06:44,160 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sinasakahan. Siguro 2825 04:06:44,160 --> 04:06:46,400 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: i-check po ng BCDA yan 2826 04:06:46,400 --> 04:06:48,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: para makonfirm kasi po 2827 04:06:48,320 --> 04:06:50,200 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito pong subject area po natin 2828 04:06:50,200 --> 04:06:51,180 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: na 1,500 2829 04:06:51,180 --> 04:06:53,600 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 500, 1,600 2830 04:06:53,600 --> 04:06:55,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hectares. Again, hindi po 2831 04:06:55,740 --> 04:06:57,580 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito, ito po ay 2832 04:06:57,580 --> 04:06:59,300 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: special economic zone 2833 04:06:59,300 --> 04:07:01,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: for industrial development. 2834 04:07:02,480 --> 04:07:03,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ang statement 2835 04:07:03,680 --> 04:07:05,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nanggaling sa local government 2836 04:07:05,740 --> 04:07:07,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: unit. Kaya ho, 2837 04:07:08,700 --> 04:07:09,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maaaring magkaroon dito 2838 04:07:09,940 --> 04:07:11,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng agara na kalinawan 2839 04:07:12,660 --> 04:07:14,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at matiyak po natin 2840 04:07:14,120 --> 04:07:15,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pape-preserba ang ating 2841 04:07:15,980 --> 04:07:17,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agricultural lands. Ngayon 2842 04:07:17,820 --> 04:07:19,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naman, sa section 5, 2843 04:07:19,260 --> 04:07:21,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: letter K sa ilalim ng 2844 04:07:21,080 --> 04:07:23,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Republic Act No. 7227, 2845 04:07:23,600 --> 04:07:25,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwedeng mag-exercise ng 2846 04:07:25,120 --> 04:07:27,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: right of 2847 04:07:27,200 --> 04:07:29,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: eminent domain ang BCDA. 2848 04:07:29,720 --> 04:07:30,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron na po bang 2849 04:07:30,580 --> 04:07:33,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in-appropriate na lupa ang BCDA 2850 04:07:33,400 --> 04:07:35,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilang paghahanda 2851 04:07:35,380 --> 04:07:37,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o may kinalaman dito 2852 04:07:37,200 --> 04:07:38,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Paksilika? 2853 04:07:39,680 --> 04:07:41,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, dahil 2854 04:07:41,280 --> 04:07:42,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pag-aari po ng 2855 04:07:42,440 --> 04:07:44,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: BCDA, itong 2856 04:07:44,680 --> 04:07:47,560 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Clark Freeport 2857 04:07:47,560 --> 04:07:49,040 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: and Special Economic Zone, 2858 04:07:49,260 --> 04:07:51,460 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po kailangan mag-exappropriate 2859 04:07:51,460 --> 04:07:53,480 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kasi sa kanila po yung lupa. 2860 04:07:55,120 --> 04:07:57,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang sabi din po ng BCDA, Madam Speaker, 2861 04:07:57,520 --> 04:07:58,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay maaaring bigyan 2862 04:07:58,800 --> 04:08:01,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lease na hanggang 99 years 2863 04:08:01,420 --> 04:08:03,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga foreign investors 2864 04:08:03,360 --> 04:08:05,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Paksilika. Sinasabi 2865 04:08:05,320 --> 04:08:07,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng BCDA na hindi naman ibinibigay 2866 04:08:07,760 --> 04:08:09,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ownership ng lupa 2867 04:08:09,640 --> 04:08:11,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil mananatili itong pag-aari 2868 04:08:11,720 --> 04:08:13,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Philippine Government. 2869 04:08:13,400 --> 04:08:15,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero kapag ang isang pribadong 2870 04:08:15,120 --> 04:08:17,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: foreign investor ay may karapatang 2871 04:08:17,460 --> 04:08:19,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gumamit at mag-develop ng lupa, 2872 04:08:19,260 --> 04:08:20,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa loob ng 2873 04:08:20,920 --> 04:08:23,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 99 years, hindi ba't 2874 04:08:24,040 --> 04:08:25,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sila na ang may 2875 04:08:25,140 --> 04:08:26,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: control sa lupa sa panahon yun? 2876 04:08:28,120 --> 04:08:29,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Parang naipaubayan 2877 04:08:29,660 --> 04:08:30,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na po natin. 2878 04:08:31,600 --> 04:08:33,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Naipaubayan na ng gobyerno 2879 04:08:33,180 --> 04:08:34,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Pilipinas sa kamay ng dayuhan 2880 04:08:34,920 --> 04:08:37,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong 1,620 hectares 2881 04:08:37,600 --> 04:08:38,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga lupain. 2882 04:08:39,280 --> 04:08:41,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 2883 04:08:41,980 --> 04:08:43,160 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: itong long-term 2884 04:08:43,160 --> 04:08:45,460 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: lease na umaabot ng 99 years, 2885 04:08:45,980 --> 04:08:47,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung mga locator 2886 04:08:47,280 --> 04:08:49,220 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: o yung mga investor na papasok 2887 04:08:49,260 --> 04:08:51,040 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: po dito, will still be subject 2888 04:08:51,040 --> 04:08:53,120 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: to Philippine laws, kaya 2889 04:08:53,120 --> 04:08:53,960 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: po 2890 04:08:53,960 --> 04:08:57,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po 2891 04:08:57,680 --> 04:08:59,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: magiging 2892 04:08:59,140 --> 04:09:00,940 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pag-aari at hindi po 2893 04:09:00,940 --> 04:09:03,260 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: mapapas sa kanila itong lupang ito. 2894 04:09:04,280 --> 04:09:05,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, 2895 04:09:05,560 --> 04:09:06,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong naipasa 2896 04:09:06,840 --> 04:09:09,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang batas na ito at tungkol 2897 04:09:09,240 --> 04:09:10,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po sa 99-year 2898 04:09:10,680 --> 04:09:13,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Foreign Investors 2899 04:09:13,540 --> 04:09:14,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lease Act, 2900 04:09:15,400 --> 04:09:17,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang boto ng Gabriela 2901 04:09:17,040 --> 04:09:18,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Women's Party ay pagtutol. 2902 04:09:19,260 --> 04:09:20,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mag-know po tayo sa 2903 04:09:20,860 --> 04:09:23,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: batas na ito. Dahil 2904 04:09:23,100 --> 04:09:24,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: habang walang lupang masaka 2905 04:09:24,600 --> 04:09:27,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga magsasaka at inaagawan 2906 04:09:27,160 --> 04:09:28,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lupa ang mga katutubo, 2907 04:09:29,340 --> 04:09:31,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dayuhan pa ang makikinabang 2908 04:09:31,260 --> 04:09:32,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga lupain. 2909 04:09:32,900 --> 04:09:34,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nang higit pa po sa average lifespan 2910 04:09:34,940 --> 04:09:37,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga Pilipino. 99 years 2911 04:09:37,300 --> 04:09:38,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yan, Madam Speaker. 2912 04:09:38,940 --> 04:09:41,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang lifespan po ng mga Pilipino 2913 04:09:41,160 --> 04:09:43,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa average, 74 years 2914 04:09:43,540 --> 04:09:45,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa babae, 68 po 2915 04:09:45,260 --> 04:09:46,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa lalaki. 2916 04:09:46,960 --> 04:09:48,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang dati pong batas na umiiral 2917 04:09:49,260 --> 04:09:51,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Investors Lease Act, 2918 04:09:51,880 --> 04:09:53,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang maximum para sa 2919 04:09:53,400 --> 04:09:55,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: long-term leases ay 2920 04:09:55,000 --> 04:09:57,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa 50 years lang na pwedeng 2921 04:09:57,460 --> 04:09:59,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: i-extend sa dagdag 2922 04:09:59,340 --> 04:10:01,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 25 years. Pero ngayon po, 2923 04:10:02,160 --> 04:10:02,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa isang 2924 04:10:02,920 --> 04:10:05,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: GONO agreement, 2925 04:10:05,780 --> 04:10:07,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maaari na po yung maximum 2926 04:10:07,040 --> 04:10:09,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 99 years. Kaya po, 2927 04:10:09,360 --> 04:10:11,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mariin po yan na tinututulan 2928 04:10:11,420 --> 04:10:13,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating representasyon 2929 04:10:13,360 --> 04:10:15,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga kababaihan. Ngayon naman, 2930 04:10:15,520 --> 04:10:16,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, 2931 04:10:17,140 --> 04:10:19,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isang ayon din po sa BCDA, 2932 04:10:19,260 --> 04:10:21,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mangangailangan ang proyekto 2933 04:10:21,320 --> 04:10:23,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito sa kanilang tansya 2934 04:10:23,280 --> 04:10:25,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng 65 to 90 million liters 2935 04:10:25,520 --> 04:10:26,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of water 2936 04:10:26,660 --> 04:10:29,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kada araw. Kaya po sila 2937 04:10:29,360 --> 04:10:30,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: inagdidesenyo na ng sistema 2938 04:10:30,960 --> 04:10:33,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung saan magkakaroon 2939 04:10:33,440 --> 04:10:34,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagsusupply ng 2940 04:10:34,720 --> 04:10:37,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o asigurado tayo 2941 04:10:37,060 --> 04:10:39,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may capacity na 2942 04:10:39,000 --> 04:10:40,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 135 million liters 2943 04:10:40,900 --> 04:10:43,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tubig kada araw na susuporta 2944 04:10:43,120 --> 04:10:45,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito. Sa pag-aaral din ng BCDA, 2945 04:10:46,140 --> 04:10:47,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga ilog 2946 04:10:47,020 --> 04:10:49,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Bangot River o Donald 2947 04:10:49,180 --> 04:10:51,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: River at Abacan River 2948 04:10:51,380 --> 04:10:52,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay 2949 04:10:52,580 --> 04:10:54,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maaaring maging source 2950 04:10:54,920 --> 04:10:57,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o sa kanila pong pag-aaral 2951 04:10:57,020 --> 04:10:59,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung natapos na pong pag-aaral na ito. 2952 04:11:00,400 --> 04:11:01,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bangot River pa lang 2953 04:11:01,400 --> 04:11:02,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang tinitignan so far 2954 04:11:02,900 --> 04:11:04,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at napag-aralan at 2955 04:11:04,940 --> 04:11:07,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sinabi niyo po na sobra pa ang makukuha. 2956 04:11:08,140 --> 04:11:09,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po ba meron 2957 04:11:09,200 --> 04:11:11,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din mga manging isda sa Bangot River? 2958 04:11:18,520 --> 04:11:19,120 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam, 2959 04:11:19,180 --> 04:11:19,820 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 2960 04:11:20,160 --> 04:11:21,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague, 2961 04:11:22,100 --> 04:11:25,060 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: wala po kaming informasyon 2962 04:11:25,060 --> 04:11:26,400 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: tungkol po dito. 2963 04:11:27,980 --> 04:11:30,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, madaling 2964 04:11:30,020 --> 04:11:32,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: search lang po sa 2965 04:11:32,280 --> 04:11:33,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ating mga 2966 04:11:33,920 --> 04:11:36,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sites 2967 04:11:36,640 --> 04:11:38,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa internet. 2968 04:11:39,140 --> 04:11:40,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakita po namin na 2969 04:11:40,640 --> 04:11:42,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong 2023, meron pong 2970 04:11:42,820 --> 04:11:44,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: balita na mga personel 2971 04:11:44,640 --> 04:11:46,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula sa BIFAR 2972 04:11:46,000 --> 04:11:48,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa Provincial Fisheries 2973 04:11:48,300 --> 04:11:48,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Office. 2974 04:11:49,180 --> 04:11:50,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na nag-release ng 2975 04:11:50,720 --> 04:11:52,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa 24,000 2976 04:11:52,420 --> 04:11:55,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: common carp and 46,000 2977 04:11:55,400 --> 04:11:57,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tilapia fingerlings 2978 04:11:57,280 --> 04:11:59,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Bangot River 2979 04:11:59,420 --> 04:12:01,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na located po sa 2980 04:12:01,280 --> 04:12:02,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bamban, Tarlac 2981 04:12:02,800 --> 04:12:05,180 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na magbe-benefit sa mga 2982 04:12:05,180 --> 04:12:06,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: indigenous fisher folk 2983 04:12:06,840 --> 04:12:07,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa area. 2984 04:12:09,140 --> 04:12:10,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po malinaw na merong 2985 04:12:10,460 --> 04:12:13,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasaysayan kumbaga na yung 2986 04:12:13,140 --> 04:12:15,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: area po na yun, meron po tayong 2987 04:12:15,220 --> 04:12:16,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga indigenous 2988 04:12:16,580 --> 04:12:18,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: fisher folk na 2989 04:12:18,520 --> 04:12:20,420 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakadepende po ang kanilang 2990 04:12:20,420 --> 04:12:23,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kabuhayan doon po sa ating 2991 04:12:23,040 --> 04:12:24,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga ilog sa naturang 2992 04:12:24,680 --> 04:12:25,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lugar. 2993 04:12:26,900 --> 04:12:29,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yan po ang isa po sa 2994 04:12:29,060 --> 04:12:30,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga bagay na 2995 04:12:30,460 --> 04:12:33,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isang click lang po yan makikita na. 2996 04:12:33,640 --> 04:12:34,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sigurado po ako pag 2997 04:12:34,940 --> 04:12:37,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas malalim pang pag-aaral 2998 04:12:37,000 --> 04:12:39,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung gagawin natin ang 2999 04:12:39,080 --> 04:12:41,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas diligent po 3000 04:12:41,740 --> 04:12:42,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na inspection, 3001 04:12:43,280 --> 04:12:44,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagbisita doon sa mismong lugar. 3002 04:12:45,720 --> 04:12:47,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Natitiyak po ako na 3003 04:12:47,120 --> 04:12:48,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas makakuha pa tayo. 3004 04:12:48,520 --> 04:12:50,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang informasyon tungkol doon sa mga 3005 04:12:50,580 --> 04:12:52,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kababayan nating katutubo 3006 04:12:52,240 --> 04:12:54,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakadepende ang kanilang kabuhayan 3007 04:12:54,700 --> 04:12:56,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga nabanggit na mga ilog. 3008 04:12:57,420 --> 04:12:58,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nag-iisa pa lang yan, Madam 3009 04:12:58,760 --> 04:13:01,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Speaker, wala pa po tayo 3010 04:13:01,380 --> 04:13:02,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ditong nasabing information 3011 04:13:02,800 --> 04:13:05,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa dalawa pa na nabanggit 3012 04:13:05,020 --> 04:13:05,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mga ilog. 3013 04:13:06,740 --> 04:13:08,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker, 3014 04:13:09,720 --> 04:13:11,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating naman sa power, 3015 04:13:11,300 --> 04:13:12,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa requirement po, 3016 04:13:12,480 --> 04:13:14,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa power, 3017 04:13:14,480 --> 04:13:16,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sabi ng BCDA na meron 3018 04:13:16,260 --> 04:13:17,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng initial investors. 3019 04:13:18,520 --> 04:13:20,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa Solar Farms at may mga malalaking 3020 04:13:20,780 --> 04:13:22,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: foreign investments na. 3021 04:13:22,820 --> 04:13:25,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sino-sino po ba ang mga investors na ito? 3022 04:13:25,620 --> 04:13:26,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Saan itatayo ang mga 3023 04:13:26,760 --> 04:13:27,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Solar Farms? 3024 04:13:40,360 --> 04:13:43,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yung Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 3025 04:13:43,100 --> 04:13:44,600 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung Solar Farm po 3026 04:13:44,600 --> 04:13:46,200 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay sa loob po ng 3027 04:13:46,200 --> 04:13:48,480 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Special Economic 3028 04:13:48,520 --> 04:13:49,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Zone ilalagay. 3029 04:13:59,100 --> 04:14:00,560 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: At meron din pong 3030 04:14:00,560 --> 04:14:02,820 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pinag-aaralang LNG power plant 3031 04:14:02,820 --> 04:14:04,480 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa loob din po ng 3032 04:14:04,480 --> 04:14:06,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ating Special Economic Zone. 3033 04:14:07,940 --> 04:14:08,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano pong timeline 3034 04:14:08,660 --> 04:14:10,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nyo sa mga pag-aaral na yan? 3035 04:14:12,300 --> 04:14:13,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kailan po matatapos? 3036 04:14:14,100 --> 04:14:15,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kailan po tayo mabibigyan ng 3037 04:14:15,460 --> 04:14:17,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: informasyon na nakalapat 3038 04:14:17,880 --> 04:14:18,440 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa datos? 3039 04:14:18,520 --> 04:14:19,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa siyensya? 3040 04:14:20,820 --> 04:14:22,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 3041 04:14:22,880 --> 04:14:24,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung ating pong Solar Farm 3042 04:14:24,440 --> 04:14:25,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay ongoing na. 3043 04:14:26,200 --> 04:14:28,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Hopefully po within two years, 3044 04:14:28,740 --> 04:14:31,040 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po ay makukompleto na po. 3045 04:14:31,840 --> 04:14:32,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Two years. 3046 04:14:33,380 --> 04:14:34,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero ngayon pa lang, Madam Speaker, 3047 04:14:35,700 --> 04:14:36,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron pong pag-aaral 3048 04:14:36,820 --> 04:14:39,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na sa tarlak pa lang, 3049 04:14:41,020 --> 04:14:42,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lubhanang lumiit 3050 04:14:42,020 --> 04:14:43,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lupang agrikultural 3051 04:14:43,320 --> 04:14:45,280 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil po sa expansion 3052 04:14:45,280 --> 04:14:47,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Solar Power Farms 3053 04:14:47,200 --> 04:14:48,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may paglalagay. 3054 04:14:48,520 --> 04:14:50,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Laki po na nasa 300%. 3055 04:14:50,520 --> 04:14:52,380 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 3056 04:14:52,380 --> 04:14:53,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ibang level po ito. 3057 04:14:53,940 --> 04:14:55,660 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 3058 04:14:55,860 --> 04:14:58,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito pong binabanggit po namin 3059 04:14:58,800 --> 04:15:00,000 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ang ongoing na 3060 04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:01,820 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: solar farm, again, is 3061 04:15:01,820 --> 04:15:03,940 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: within the special 3062 04:15:03,940 --> 04:15:04,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: economic zone. 3063 04:15:06,720 --> 04:15:08,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, Madam Speaker, sabi 3064 04:15:08,000 --> 04:15:09,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po sa atin ng DA, 3065 04:15:10,140 --> 04:15:12,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil po sila ay nabahala na dito 3066 04:15:12,040 --> 04:15:13,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang 300% yung expansion, 3067 04:15:13,900 --> 04:15:15,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: samantalang paliit po ng paliit 3068 04:15:15,520 --> 04:15:17,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga natatamna natin 3069 04:15:17,740 --> 04:15:19,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagkain, lalo na po 3070 04:15:19,720 --> 04:15:21,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng palay, ay magkakaroon sila 3071 04:15:21,720 --> 04:15:23,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng geofencing program. 3072 04:15:23,860 --> 04:15:25,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At makakatulungan nila dito yung DAR, 3073 04:15:26,180 --> 04:15:27,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga kasama din ng Department 3074 04:15:27,740 --> 04:15:29,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of Energy. Pero sa lahat po 3075 04:15:29,520 --> 04:15:30,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ito, ang 3076 04:15:30,860 --> 04:15:33,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: atin pong panawagan, 3077 04:15:33,520 --> 04:15:35,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil sa dami din nung maaaring 3078 04:15:35,460 --> 04:15:37,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maapekto ka ng mga magsasaka, 3079 04:15:37,540 --> 04:15:39,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at yung mismong siguridad sa pagkain 3080 04:15:39,740 --> 04:15:41,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa bansa, dahil 3081 04:15:41,480 --> 04:15:43,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Central Luzon po ay ang rice 3082 04:15:43,360 --> 04:15:45,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: granary ng Pilipinas. Dahil po 3083 04:15:45,320 --> 04:15:47,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito, may nabuong 3084 04:15:47,480 --> 04:15:49,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: network yung Save the 3085 04:15:49,520 --> 04:15:51,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Rice Granary. At dito po 3086 04:15:51,500 --> 04:15:53,200 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Save the Rice Granary, 3087 04:15:53,320 --> 04:15:54,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Save Rice Granary campaign, 3088 04:15:55,420 --> 04:15:57,160 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung network na sumusuporta dito, 3089 04:15:57,160 --> 04:15:59,120 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang panawagan po talaga ay 3090 04:15:59,120 --> 04:16:00,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi naman po tayo tutol sa renewable 3091 04:16:00,840 --> 04:16:03,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: energy development. Hindi po tayo tutol 3092 04:16:03,100 --> 04:16:05,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ekspansyon ng mas maraming 3093 04:16:05,020 --> 04:16:06,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sources ng renewable energy. 3094 04:16:07,720 --> 04:16:09,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po tayo tutol dyan. 3095 04:16:09,400 --> 04:16:10,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang tinututulan po natin ay 3096 04:16:10,980 --> 04:16:13,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kapag nasasakripisyo 3097 04:16:13,040 --> 04:16:14,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pagsasaka, 3098 04:16:14,900 --> 04:16:17,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasasakripisyo yung pangarap natin 3099 04:16:17,220 --> 04:16:18,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa food self-sufficiency, 3100 04:16:19,720 --> 04:16:21,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasasakripisyo yung pangarap 3101 04:16:21,060 --> 04:16:22,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin para sa rice self-sufficiency. 3102 04:16:23,600 --> 04:16:24,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nauuna yung 3103 04:16:24,960 --> 04:16:25,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: interes ng 3104 04:16:25,780 --> 04:16:28,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: negosyo at dayuhan 3105 04:16:28,700 --> 04:16:31,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga napakahalagang lupain na ito. 3106 04:16:31,480 --> 04:16:32,820 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished 3107 04:16:32,820 --> 04:16:34,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Colleague, para po sa ating 3108 04:16:34,640 --> 04:16:36,600 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kaalaman, dito po 3109 04:16:36,600 --> 04:16:38,560 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa loob ng ating Freeport 3110 04:16:38,560 --> 04:16:40,080 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at Special Economic Zone, 3111 04:16:40,560 --> 04:16:42,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: meron din po tayong plano 3112 04:16:42,720 --> 04:16:45,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa pagpapatayo 3113 04:16:45,320 --> 04:16:46,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng mga 3114 04:16:46,520 --> 04:16:48,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: modern agriculture 3115 04:16:48,800 --> 04:16:50,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: farms 3116 04:16:50,620 --> 04:16:52,380 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: na kung saan ito rin po 3117 04:16:52,380 --> 04:16:54,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay isang sagot sa ating 3118 04:16:54,700 --> 04:16:55,120 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pong 3119 04:16:55,780 --> 04:16:56,560 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pangangailangan 3120 04:16:56,560 --> 04:16:58,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: para po sa ating pong pagkain. 3121 04:17:01,300 --> 04:17:02,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon po Madam Speaker, 3122 04:17:03,140 --> 04:17:04,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagaling po dito kanina ang NCIP 3123 04:17:04,840 --> 04:17:06,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sinabi po nila 3124 04:17:06,660 --> 04:17:08,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na wala pa nga pong FPIC 3125 04:17:08,540 --> 04:17:10,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil meron din pong 3126 04:17:10,640 --> 04:17:13,220 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga concerns at tungkol sa pagkakaroon 3127 04:17:13,220 --> 04:17:14,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng certificate 3128 04:17:14,560 --> 04:17:16,260 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mismo ng ancestral domain. 3129 04:17:16,880 --> 04:17:19,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero sa akin pong 3130 04:17:19,100 --> 04:17:20,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sariling karanasan 3131 04:17:20,840 --> 04:17:23,080 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pagbisita sa Tarlac. 3132 04:17:23,680 --> 04:17:25,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito lang pong nakaraang 3133 04:17:25,020 --> 04:17:25,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: linggo. 3134 04:17:25,780 --> 04:17:28,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nag-participate po tayo 3135 04:17:28,900 --> 04:17:30,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa caravan para po 3136 04:17:30,400 --> 04:17:32,100 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malaman mismo 3137 04:17:32,100 --> 04:17:34,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa community yung 3138 04:17:34,600 --> 04:17:35,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang kalagayan. 3139 04:17:36,800 --> 04:17:38,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung kwento po nila, 3140 04:17:38,780 --> 04:17:40,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung kanila pong mga families 3141 04:17:40,500 --> 04:17:42,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay bago pa may BCDA 3142 04:17:42,720 --> 04:17:43,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nandun na po sila. 3143 04:17:45,540 --> 04:17:46,520 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bago pa pumasok 3144 04:17:46,520 --> 04:17:48,140 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang BCDA noong 1992, 3145 04:17:49,440 --> 04:17:52,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron na pong nakatira doon. 3146 04:17:53,160 --> 04:17:55,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nandun na yung mga katutubo 3147 04:17:55,500 --> 04:17:55,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at yung mga katutubo. 3148 04:17:55,780 --> 04:17:59,840 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sila mismo yung tumutulong 3149 04:17:59,840 --> 04:18:01,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para linangin ang 3150 04:18:01,780 --> 04:18:03,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lupang agrikultura. 3151 04:18:04,100 --> 04:18:05,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po ito madali 3152 04:18:05,620 --> 04:18:06,060 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasi 3153 04:18:06,060 --> 04:18:11,580 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naririnig mo na sila po yung 3154 04:18:11,580 --> 04:18:13,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagsusumikap 3155 04:18:13,340 --> 04:18:15,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ma-maintain yung 3156 04:18:15,340 --> 04:18:17,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ganda ng ating kalikasan 3157 04:18:17,360 --> 04:18:19,360 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero sila din yung first 3158 04:18:19,360 --> 04:18:21,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nabibiktima ng displacement. 3159 04:18:23,860 --> 04:18:25,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At medyo 3160 04:18:25,620 --> 04:18:26,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano po ako kasi 3161 04:18:26,920 --> 04:18:29,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakita ko po yung kahirapan 3162 04:18:29,320 --> 04:18:31,240 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po ang hindi po fair 3163 04:18:31,240 --> 04:18:33,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga indigenous people 3164 04:18:33,560 --> 04:18:35,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin na ganoon po sila. 3165 04:18:35,160 --> 04:18:36,020 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil sobrang hirap 3166 04:18:36,020 --> 04:18:37,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong kanilang kalagayan. 3167 04:18:38,180 --> 04:18:38,640 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, 3168 04:18:40,040 --> 04:18:42,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kaya yun na yung kanilang lupa 3169 04:18:42,300 --> 04:18:44,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay yung kusan sila nakatira 3170 04:18:44,960 --> 04:18:47,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: punasan yung kanilang mga 3171 04:18:47,000 --> 04:18:49,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ancestral na 3172 04:18:49,480 --> 04:18:50,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: burial grounds 3173 04:18:50,620 --> 04:18:52,400 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay haharap pa sa 3174 04:18:52,400 --> 04:18:55,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: madali pong sabihin saan. 3175 04:18:55,620 --> 04:18:56,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dati na ilipat na lang 3176 04:18:56,880 --> 04:18:58,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ganyan pero hindi po ganun kadali 3177 04:18:58,500 --> 04:18:59,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasi yun yung kanilang 3178 04:18:59,700 --> 04:19:00,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: akultura. 3179 04:19:01,500 --> 04:19:02,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yun po yung kanilang 3180 04:19:02,760 --> 04:19:06,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gawi, di ba? 3181 04:19:06,880 --> 04:19:09,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na i-maintain yung kanilang 3182 04:19:09,480 --> 04:19:11,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga ancestral na 3183 04:19:11,600 --> 04:19:13,720 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: burial grounds na secret po 3184 04:19:13,720 --> 04:19:15,040 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga katutubo. 3185 04:19:15,200 --> 04:19:15,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, 3186 04:19:16,740 --> 04:19:21,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi po ako magpapasensya kasi kahit po 3187 04:19:21,760 --> 04:19:23,680 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mahirap po. 3188 04:19:23,680 --> 04:19:25,480 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung sa tingin ko po napakahalaga. 3189 04:19:25,620 --> 04:19:27,980 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na malaman po ninyo na 3190 04:19:27,980 --> 04:19:30,880 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga katutubo po talaga 3191 04:19:30,880 --> 04:19:31,760 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itumitindig. 3192 04:19:32,980 --> 04:19:35,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na sila po ay kasama natin 3193 04:19:35,000 --> 04:19:35,820 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kunlaran. 3194 04:19:36,640 --> 04:19:38,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero huwag naman po sana sila may isang tabi 3195 04:19:38,700 --> 04:19:41,460 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa lahat po 3196 04:19:41,460 --> 04:19:42,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pangarap natin 3197 04:19:42,600 --> 04:19:44,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa pagunlad ng ating bansa. 3198 04:19:45,780 --> 04:19:47,000 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil yung lupa po nila 3199 04:19:47,000 --> 04:19:48,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung sa atin parang simple lang yung 3200 04:19:48,620 --> 04:19:50,700 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paglipat pero yung lupa 3201 04:19:50,700 --> 04:19:52,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa katutubo ay 3202 04:19:52,340 --> 04:19:54,960 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tahanan po nila 3203 04:19:54,960 --> 04:19:55,600 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lupa. 3204 04:19:55,620 --> 04:19:57,900 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung kabuhayan nila, pinagkukunan nila 3205 04:19:57,900 --> 04:19:58,740 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagkain. 3206 04:19:59,620 --> 04:20:00,920 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para sa mga katutubo, 3207 04:20:01,600 --> 04:20:03,800 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kanilang pamayanan, para sa magsasaka 3208 04:20:03,800 --> 04:20:05,940 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at bahagi na 3209 04:20:05,940 --> 04:20:07,500 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng kanilang kasaysayan 3210 04:20:07,500 --> 04:20:09,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at buhay ng kanilang komunidad. 3211 04:20:09,980 --> 04:20:10,540 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po, 3212 04:20:11,140 --> 04:20:13,660 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nababahala. Hindi lang po sila 3213 04:20:13,660 --> 04:20:15,300 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero maski po ako sobrang affected 3214 04:20:15,300 --> 04:20:16,320 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 3215 04:20:16,320 --> 04:20:19,340 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kumigit-kumulang 3216 04:20:19,340 --> 04:20:21,560 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 1,620 na ektarya 3217 04:20:21,560 --> 04:20:23,780 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lupa sa Nuclar City ang ilalaan 3218 04:20:23,780 --> 04:20:24,860 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa Paksilika. 3219 04:20:25,620 --> 04:20:27,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa totoo lang po, hindi lang po ako. 3220 04:20:27,380 --> 04:20:29,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Marami pong nagjoin doon sa caravan 3221 04:20:29,380 --> 04:20:31,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: last week. 3222 04:20:31,380 --> 04:20:33,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para po, malaman mismo 3223 04:20:33,380 --> 04:20:35,380 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi lang sa social media, 3224 04:20:35,380 --> 04:20:36,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lang sa internet. 3225 04:20:36,620 --> 04:20:38,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Makita mismo, makausap mismo 3226 04:20:38,620 --> 04:20:40,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ITA community 3227 04:20:40,620 --> 04:20:42,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: doon sa lugar. 3228 04:20:42,620 --> 04:20:44,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At 3229 04:20:44,620 --> 04:20:46,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakita ko po talaga doon na gustong-gusto nila ng 3230 04:20:46,620 --> 04:20:48,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagunlad. Pero yung tunay na pagunlad 3231 04:20:48,620 --> 04:20:50,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat kasama sila. 3232 04:20:50,620 --> 04:20:52,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nakabatay po sa 3233 04:20:52,620 --> 04:20:54,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prinsipyo na hindi natin 3234 04:20:54,620 --> 04:20:56,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isasakripisyo ang lupa 3235 04:20:56,620 --> 04:20:58,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng magsasaka, 3236 04:20:58,620 --> 04:21:00,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lupa ng ancestral lands, 3237 04:21:00,620 --> 04:21:02,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ancestral lands ng ating 3238 04:21:02,620 --> 04:21:04,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga katutupo 3239 04:21:04,620 --> 04:21:06,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at ang kalikasan para lamang 3240 04:21:06,620 --> 04:21:08,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makapagbigay ng espasyo sa malalaking 3241 04:21:08,620 --> 04:21:10,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dayuhan na pumumunan. 3242 04:21:10,620 --> 04:21:12,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakayaman po ng Pilipinas. 3243 04:21:12,620 --> 04:21:14,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa tingin ko po kung 3244 04:21:14,620 --> 04:21:16,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dodoblehin natin ang pondo ng 3245 04:21:16,620 --> 04:21:18,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: DOST, ng Department 3246 04:21:18,620 --> 04:21:20,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of Science and Technology, 3247 04:21:20,620 --> 04:21:22,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kayang-kaya po natin magamit ang 3248 04:21:22,620 --> 04:21:23,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: aghama at teknolosya. 3249 04:21:23,620 --> 04:21:25,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pinayaman 3250 04:21:25,620 --> 04:21:27,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga Pilipino mismo 3251 04:21:27,620 --> 04:21:29,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa pambansang pagunlad. 3252 04:21:31,620 --> 04:21:33,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po dapat maging 3253 04:21:33,620 --> 04:21:35,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sangkot ang Pilipinas sa mga programang 3254 04:21:35,620 --> 04:21:37,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagsisilbi para lamang sa interes ng 3255 04:21:37,620 --> 04:21:39,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dayuhang kapangyarihan tulad ng Pakasilika. 3256 04:21:39,620 --> 04:21:41,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Habang nanganib ang lupa 3257 04:21:41,620 --> 04:21:43,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at kabuhayan ng mga aita at magsasaka. 3258 04:21:43,620 --> 04:21:45,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang siguridad natin sa 3259 04:21:45,620 --> 04:21:47,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagkain, ang kalikasan, at ang 3260 04:21:47,620 --> 04:21:49,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pambansang soberanya. 3261 04:21:49,620 --> 04:21:51,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang panawagan ko po ngayon ay 3262 04:21:51,620 --> 04:21:53,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maipagtanggol ang lupa ng 3263 04:21:53,620 --> 04:21:55,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga aita at magsasaka. 3264 04:21:55,620 --> 04:21:57,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Huwag po natin pabayaan 3265 04:21:57,620 --> 04:21:59,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lupa ng katutubo at 3266 04:21:59,620 --> 04:22:01,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lupa ng magsasaka. 3267 04:22:01,620 --> 04:22:03,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Protectahan natin ang ating kalikasan at 3268 04:22:03,620 --> 04:22:05,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: siguridad sa pagkain. 3269 04:22:05,620 --> 04:22:07,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Food self-sufficiency, pangarap natin yan 3270 04:22:07,620 --> 04:22:09,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa bansang Pilipinas. Kaya po 3271 04:22:09,620 --> 04:22:11,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang panawagan po ng mga kababaihan, 3272 04:22:11,620 --> 04:22:13,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: buong tapang, 3273 04:22:13,620 --> 04:22:15,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: go to Pakasilika, 3274 04:22:15,620 --> 04:22:17,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Philippines is not for sale. 3275 04:22:17,620 --> 04:22:19,620 Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. 3276 04:22:21,620 --> 04:22:23,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 3277 04:22:27,620 --> 04:22:29,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a motion to recognize 3278 04:22:29,620 --> 04:22:31,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Honorable Tinio. 3279 04:22:31,620 --> 04:22:33,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Please proceed with your interpellation. 3280 04:22:51,620 --> 04:22:57,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker. 3281 04:22:57,620 --> 04:22:59,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, 3282 04:22:59,620 --> 04:23:01,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilang mga katanungan sa 3283 04:23:01,620 --> 04:23:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: BCDA. 3284 04:23:03,620 --> 04:23:05,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, 3285 04:23:05,620 --> 04:23:07,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may kinalaman nito sa Pakasilika. 3286 04:23:07,620 --> 04:23:09,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 3287 04:23:09,620 --> 04:23:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, una, 3288 04:23:11,620 --> 04:23:13,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: throughout the interpolation, narinig po 3289 04:23:13,620 --> 04:23:15,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: natin ang ginagamit na term 3290 04:23:15,620 --> 04:23:17,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Clark, 3291 04:23:17,620 --> 04:23:19,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Freeport, and 3292 04:23:19,620 --> 04:23:21,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Economic Zone. 3293 04:23:21,620 --> 04:23:23,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon. So, 3294 04:23:23,620 --> 04:23:25,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede po bang linawin lang natin 3295 04:23:25,620 --> 04:23:27,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung tinutukoy 3296 04:23:27,620 --> 04:23:29,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung term na yan? 3297 04:23:29,620 --> 04:23:31,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3298 04:23:31,620 --> 04:23:33,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung, 3299 04:23:33,620 --> 04:23:35,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as I understand it, 3300 04:23:35,620 --> 04:23:37,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba yung Freeport area dun sa 3301 04:23:37,620 --> 04:23:39,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Economic Zone area. Tama po ba? 3302 04:23:45,620 --> 04:23:47,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paki-explain lang po. 3303 04:24:06,120 --> 04:24:08,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, tumatakbo yung oras ha. 3304 04:24:08,780 --> 04:24:10,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Note lang po. 3305 04:24:10,300 --> 04:24:11,300 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker. 3306 04:24:11,300 --> 04:24:13,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. Opo. 3307 04:24:13,500 --> 04:24:14,500 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Dear colleague, 3308 04:24:14,500 --> 04:24:16,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung pong Clark Freeport 3309 04:24:16,100 --> 04:24:19,500 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Zone, yun po yung 3310 04:24:19,500 --> 04:24:21,000 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 4,400 hectares. 3311 04:24:21,000 --> 04:24:23,000 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kung nasaan po yung 3312 04:24:23,000 --> 04:24:26,500 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kung nasaan po yung Clark International Airport. 3313 04:24:26,500 --> 04:24:27,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 3314 04:24:27,100 --> 04:24:29,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mainly nasa Pampanga po yan, di ba? 3315 04:24:29,300 --> 04:24:31,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Opo. Yes. 3316 04:24:31,100 --> 04:24:33,600 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3317 04:24:33,620 --> 04:24:35,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: And yung pong Clark Advanced 3318 04:24:35,620 --> 04:24:37,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Manufacturing Park, 3319 04:24:37,620 --> 04:24:39,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po ay nasa loob ng 3320 04:24:39,620 --> 04:24:41,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Special Economic Zone. 3321 04:24:41,620 --> 04:24:42,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3322 04:24:42,440 --> 04:24:43,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa New Clark City. 3323 04:24:43,620 --> 04:24:45,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: New Clark City, which is in 3324 04:24:45,120 --> 04:24:47,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tarlac. 3325 04:24:47,500 --> 04:24:49,060 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3326 04:24:49,060 --> 04:24:49,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3327 04:24:49,620 --> 04:24:51,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, dito sa 3328 04:24:51,620 --> 04:24:53,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PacSilica, 3329 04:24:53,620 --> 04:24:55,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ba yung ma-involve dito? 3330 04:24:55,620 --> 04:24:57,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung po bang 3331 04:24:57,620 --> 04:24:59,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Economic Zone area sa Tarlac? 3332 04:24:59,620 --> 04:25:01,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O yung sa 3333 04:25:01,620 --> 04:25:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Freeport, sa Pampanga, o pareho? 3334 04:25:03,620 --> 04:25:05,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para lang malinaw. 3335 04:25:05,620 --> 04:25:07,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yung 3336 04:25:07,620 --> 04:25:09,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: PacSilica po as a 3337 04:25:09,620 --> 04:25:11,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: non-binding declaration 3338 04:25:11,620 --> 04:25:13,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: na sumali po ang Pilipinas, 3339 04:25:13,620 --> 04:25:15,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po yung 3340 04:25:15,620 --> 04:25:17,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: buong 3341 04:25:17,620 --> 04:25:18,930 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: global chain. 3342 04:25:18,930 --> 04:25:19,110 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 3343 04:25:19,110 --> 04:25:19,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, 3344 04:25:19,620 --> 04:25:21,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ibig sabihin, sa buong global chain, 3345 04:25:21,620 --> 04:25:23,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: meron po sa manufacturing 3346 04:25:23,620 --> 04:25:25,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: or sa ating industrial park, 3347 04:25:25,620 --> 04:25:27,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at siyempre, meron din pong 3348 04:25:27,620 --> 04:25:29,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kinalaman yung logistics 3349 04:25:29,620 --> 04:25:31,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kasama po yung mga 3350 04:25:31,620 --> 04:25:33,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: daan at ito pong airport. 3351 04:25:33,620 --> 04:25:35,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ibig sabihin, 3352 04:25:35,620 --> 04:25:37,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kasama po siya sa ecosystem 3353 04:25:37,620 --> 04:25:38,870 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng... 3354 04:25:38,870 --> 04:25:39,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3355 04:25:39,620 --> 04:25:41,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kaugnay nun, 3356 04:25:41,620 --> 04:25:43,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron yung 3357 04:25:43,620 --> 04:25:45,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano nga ito, 3358 04:25:45,620 --> 04:25:47,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Luzon 3359 04:25:47,620 --> 04:25:49,090 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Economic Corridor. Madam Speaker. 3360 04:25:49,090 --> 04:25:49,940 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tama po. 3361 04:25:49,940 --> 04:25:53,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Pero yung specific 3362 04:25:53,620 --> 04:25:55,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: project 3363 04:25:55,620 --> 04:25:57,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na 3364 04:25:57,620 --> 04:25:59,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung immediate 3365 04:25:59,620 --> 04:26:01,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na project na 3366 04:26:01,620 --> 04:26:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in-offer 3367 04:26:03,620 --> 04:26:05,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng PCDA 3368 04:26:05,620 --> 04:26:07,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa PacSilica, 3369 04:26:07,620 --> 04:26:09,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasan po yun? 3370 04:26:09,060 --> 04:26:10,080 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa New Clark City po. 3371 04:26:10,080 --> 04:26:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa New Clark City. 3372 04:26:11,620 --> 04:26:13,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, potentially, pwedeng ma-involve din 3373 04:26:13,620 --> 04:26:15,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung airport, 3374 04:26:15,620 --> 04:26:17,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero yung kongkretong pinag-uusapan 3375 04:26:17,620 --> 04:26:19,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon, yung 3376 04:26:19,620 --> 04:26:21,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in U.S. 3377 04:26:21,620 --> 04:26:23,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: statements, 4,000 acres daw 3378 04:26:23,620 --> 04:26:25,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na lupa, pero 3379 04:26:25,620 --> 04:26:27,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa atin, ilan yun? 3380 04:26:27,620 --> 04:26:29,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,600. 3381 04:26:29,620 --> 04:26:31,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,600. 3382 04:26:31,620 --> 04:26:33,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 1,620 hectares. 3383 04:26:33,620 --> 04:26:35,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 620 hectares. Yun po yung nasa 3384 04:26:35,620 --> 04:26:37,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: New Clark City. Tama po. Okay. 3385 04:26:37,620 --> 04:26:39,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, magkalinawan po tayo roon. 3386 04:26:39,620 --> 04:26:41,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Tapos, 3387 04:26:41,620 --> 04:26:43,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilang mga latest 3388 04:26:43,620 --> 04:26:45,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: developments batay po sa mga news 3389 04:26:45,620 --> 04:26:47,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reports. Ipapakonfirm ko 3390 04:26:47,620 --> 04:26:49,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lang po sa inyo. 3391 04:26:49,620 --> 04:26:51,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung PCDA and 3392 04:26:51,620 --> 04:26:53,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority 3393 04:26:53,620 --> 04:26:55,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: have formalized a partnership 3394 04:26:55,620 --> 04:26:57,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to position the port of Subic Bay 3395 04:26:57,620 --> 04:26:59,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as the preferred maritime 3396 04:26:59,620 --> 04:27:01,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gateway for the PacSilica initiative. 3397 04:27:01,620 --> 04:27:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Supporting its 3398 04:27:03,620 --> 04:27:05,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: logistics, cargo handling, import and 3399 04:27:05,620 --> 04:27:07,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: export operations, data 3400 04:27:07,620 --> 04:27:09,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: integration, and other critical 3401 04:27:09,620 --> 04:27:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: supply chain requirements. 3402 04:27:11,620 --> 04:27:13,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun? 3403 04:27:13,620 --> 04:27:15,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron talaga kayong formal 3404 04:27:15,620 --> 04:27:17,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: partnership with 3405 04:27:17,620 --> 04:27:19,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: SBMA 3406 04:27:19,620 --> 04:27:21,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: designating port of 3407 04:27:21,620 --> 04:27:23,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Subic Bay as preferred maritime 3408 04:27:23,620 --> 04:27:25,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gateway for the PacSilica 3409 04:27:25,620 --> 04:27:27,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: initiative. Correct? 3410 04:27:29,620 --> 04:27:31,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3411 04:27:31,620 --> 04:27:33,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3412 04:27:33,620 --> 04:27:35,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano po ba yan? 3413 04:27:35,620 --> 04:27:37,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong kasulatan? Paano yan? May 3414 04:27:37,620 --> 04:27:39,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kontrata? Ano yung sabihin nun? 3415 04:27:39,620 --> 04:27:41,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or nagkasundo lang kayo? 3416 04:27:41,620 --> 04:27:43,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Meron pong 3417 04:27:43,620 --> 04:27:45,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: MOU, Madam Speaker. 3418 04:27:45,620 --> 04:27:47,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MOU? Okay. 3419 04:27:47,620 --> 04:27:49,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that MOU 3420 04:27:49,620 --> 04:27:51,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: available to the public? 3421 04:27:59,620 --> 04:28:01,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: We can supply you 3422 04:28:01,620 --> 04:28:02,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: a copy of that. 3423 04:28:02,900 --> 04:28:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, please. 3424 04:28:03,620 --> 04:28:05,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa atin po at para sa publiko rin. 3425 04:28:05,620 --> 04:28:07,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para transparent tayo sa lahat 3426 04:28:07,620 --> 04:28:09,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga may kinalaman 3427 04:28:09,620 --> 04:28:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa PacSilica. So, we would expect 3428 04:28:11,620 --> 04:28:13,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a copy of that MOU. 3429 04:28:13,620 --> 04:28:15,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, again, 3430 04:28:15,620 --> 04:28:17,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: according to reports, the BCDA 3431 04:28:17,620 --> 04:28:19,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is set to sign the 3432 04:28:19,620 --> 04:28:21,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: governance framework for the PacSilica 3433 04:28:21,620 --> 04:28:23,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: industrial hub in Nucleic 3434 04:28:23,620 --> 04:28:25,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: City with a 3435 04:28:25,620 --> 04:28:27,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: counterpart United States government 3436 04:28:27,620 --> 04:28:29,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agency. Tama po ba 3437 04:28:29,620 --> 04:28:31,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun? 3438 04:28:31,620 --> 04:28:33,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3439 04:28:33,620 --> 04:28:35,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Malapit na po bang pirmahan? O napirmahan 3440 04:28:35,620 --> 04:28:37,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na po ba yung 3441 04:28:37,620 --> 04:28:39,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: governance framework 3442 04:28:39,620 --> 04:28:41,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for PacSilica? 3443 04:28:41,620 --> 04:28:43,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pa pong napipirmahan, Madam Speaker. 3444 04:28:43,620 --> 04:28:45,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero tama yung report 3445 04:28:45,620 --> 04:28:47,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na malapit ng 3446 04:28:47,620 --> 04:28:49,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pirmahan? 3447 04:28:49,620 --> 04:28:51,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pinag-aaralan po, Madam Speaker. 3448 04:28:51,620 --> 04:28:53,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinag-aaralan po. Okay. 3449 04:28:53,620 --> 04:28:55,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, hindi pa po tayo mabibigyan ng 3450 04:28:55,620 --> 04:28:57,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kopya nito? O pwede na po? 3451 04:28:57,620 --> 04:28:59,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pa po, Madam Speaker. 3452 04:28:59,620 --> 04:29:01,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa po. Okay. Pero 3453 04:29:01,620 --> 04:29:03,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the moment it is signed, pwede na pong 3454 04:29:03,620 --> 04:29:05,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mabigay? O maipakita 3455 04:29:05,620 --> 04:29:07,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa publiko? 3456 04:29:07,620 --> 04:29:09,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. We expect that. Ano? 3457 04:29:09,620 --> 04:29:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3458 04:29:11,620 --> 04:29:13,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, ang isa sa mga 3459 04:29:13,620 --> 04:29:15,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: publicly available documents 3460 04:29:15,620 --> 04:29:17,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay 3461 04:29:17,620 --> 04:29:19,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: noon pa, April. 3462 04:29:19,620 --> 04:29:21,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Way back in April. 3463 04:29:21,620 --> 04:29:23,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sulat 3464 04:29:23,620 --> 04:29:25,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ni President 3465 04:29:25,620 --> 04:29:27,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and CEO, 3466 04:29:27,620 --> 04:29:29,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si ginoong Joshua Bingkang, 3467 04:29:29,620 --> 04:29:31,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sumulat siya 3468 04:29:31,620 --> 04:29:33,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 3469 04:29:33,620 --> 04:29:35,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sumulat siya 3470 04:29:35,620 --> 04:29:37,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kay Undersecretary 3471 04:29:37,620 --> 04:29:39,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of State for Economic Affairs of the United States. 3472 04:29:39,620 --> 04:29:41,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Jacob Helberg. 3473 04:29:41,620 --> 04:29:43,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nung 9 April 3474 04:29:43,620 --> 04:29:45,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026, 3475 04:29:45,620 --> 04:29:47,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Proposal for a Paxilica 3476 04:29:47,620 --> 04:29:49,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coordination Office in Clark. 3477 04:29:49,620 --> 04:29:51,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 3478 04:29:51,620 --> 04:29:53,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tama po, Madam Speaker. 3479 04:29:53,620 --> 04:29:55,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3480 04:29:55,620 --> 04:29:57,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, 3481 04:29:57,620 --> 04:29:59,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron din pong sagot. 3482 04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:15,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Si Jacob Helberg, the Undersecretary of the United States, Department of State, acknowledging and accepting the offer. 3483 04:30:16,440 --> 04:30:19,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. Dated April 16 naman ito. Tama po. 3484 04:30:26,420 --> 04:30:28,760 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, tama po. 3485 04:30:28,760 --> 04:30:33,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. Or we will return to these documents. 3486 04:30:33,800 --> 04:30:38,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero meron po akong mga ilang visuals. I hope they're ready. 3487 04:30:38,780 --> 04:30:47,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una, nung inanunsyo yung Paxilica Initiative in the first quarter of this year, may announcement po yung State Department 3488 04:30:47,800 --> 04:30:55,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and it is reproduced or published in the U.S. Embassy Manila website. 3489 04:30:55,940 --> 04:30:58,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yung isa po, kung makikita natin, available. 3490 04:30:58,760 --> 04:30:59,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Available na po ba? 3491 04:31:02,900 --> 04:31:04,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Available na po ba yung visual? 3492 04:31:08,200 --> 04:31:10,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Andiyan na po? O wala. 3493 04:31:10,780 --> 04:31:16,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, meron pong pinablish sa website ng U.S. Embassy in the Philippines, 3494 04:31:16,620 --> 04:31:28,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the United States and the Philippines launch plans for 4,000-acre economic security zone to shore up supply chains. 3495 04:31:28,060 --> 04:31:33,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: First AI-native industrial acceleration hub under Paxilica. 3496 04:31:34,760 --> 04:31:43,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, this is published by the Office of the U.S. Department of State Spokesperson, April 16, 2026. 3497 04:31:45,840 --> 04:31:47,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa po ba? Para makita lang. 3498 04:31:49,380 --> 04:31:50,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa rin. Okay. 3499 04:31:51,640 --> 04:31:57,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, ang striking po dito yung paggamit ng terminong economic security zone. 3500 04:31:58,060 --> 04:31:58,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3501 04:31:58,640 --> 04:32:13,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, also, part of the media kit na nilabas during this period, April 16 din po, nilabas din ng State Department, 3502 04:32:13,260 --> 04:32:22,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fact sheet, U.S. and Philippines plan the launch of historic 4,000-acre economic security zone to shore up supply chains. 3503 04:32:22,640 --> 04:32:27,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At dito po, sabi, meron. 3504 04:32:28,060 --> 04:32:34,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron ng economic security zone and structure and plan governance. 3505 04:32:34,440 --> 04:32:38,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dito po yung naging kontrobersyal na termino, joint governance. 3506 04:32:39,760 --> 04:32:43,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi po, dito sa economic security zone, merong joint governance. 3507 04:32:43,820 --> 04:32:56,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The two governments intend to identify appropriate frameworks for the long-term development of the zone that facilitate sovereign alignment and shared upside as it scales. 3508 04:32:57,940 --> 04:32:57,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3509 04:32:58,060 --> 04:33:00,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the use of the term joint governance. 3510 04:33:01,680 --> 04:33:16,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In media reports, sabi, that joint governance included yung U.S. demand na merong diplomatic immunity yung mga personel nila sa zone. 3511 04:33:17,700 --> 04:33:25,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Subsequently, parang may clarification or denial ang BCDA dito. 3512 04:33:25,260 --> 04:33:27,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, yan po ang nakapublish. 3513 04:33:28,060 --> 04:33:32,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan po ang pinublish ng U.S. State Department. 3514 04:33:32,660 --> 04:33:39,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, do you confirm these statements made by the U.S. State Department? 3515 04:33:43,380 --> 04:33:51,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we cannot confirm what the U.S. State Department is saying. 3516 04:33:51,860 --> 04:33:54,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You cannot confirm. Pero nilabas po nila. 3517 04:33:54,380 --> 04:33:54,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3518 04:33:55,940 --> 04:33:57,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You cannot confirm. 3519 04:33:57,400 --> 04:33:57,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But you have reacted. 3520 04:33:57,940 --> 04:33:58,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You have reacted to it. 3521 04:33:58,620 --> 04:33:59,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po yung reaction nyo doon? 3522 04:34:03,320 --> 04:34:04,180 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yan lang sila. 3523 04:34:12,340 --> 04:34:18,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In the meantime, Madam Chair, follow up po lang po yung visual aids natin para mas mapabilis po yung discussion. 3524 04:34:18,700 --> 04:34:25,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, doon po sa proposal na sulat na pinadala po ng BCDA, 3525 04:34:25,900 --> 04:34:27,660 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: very clear po. 3526 04:34:27,940 --> 04:34:35,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, na nilagay, sinayit po yung legal basis para sa sulat na ito. 3527 04:34:35,480 --> 04:34:45,380 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: At sinasabi po na, if I may read, Madam Speaker, the terms herein are made consistent with the laws of the Republic of the Philippines, 3528 04:34:45,380 --> 04:34:57,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: including RA number 7916, RA number 7277, and such other Philippine laws and rules that govern the use of public lands. 3529 04:34:58,280 --> 04:35:00,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: for purposes of international cooperation. 3530 04:35:00,740 --> 04:35:01,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3531 04:35:01,040 --> 04:35:01,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Claro po. 3532 04:35:01,740 --> 04:35:03,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I have the same letter. 3533 04:35:03,200 --> 04:35:08,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And actually, yan nga po yung gusto natin ipakita para mapabilis yung discussion. 3534 04:35:08,720 --> 04:35:10,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let's now go to that letter then. 3535 04:35:10,940 --> 04:35:15,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po yung proposal for a PAC-Silica Coordination Office in Clark. 3536 04:35:16,360 --> 04:35:16,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3537 04:35:16,460 --> 04:35:30,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sabi po rito, the BCDA of the Republic of the Philippines presents its proposal to the Department of State of the United States of America. 3538 04:35:30,820 --> 04:35:32,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayun, finally, umabot na. 3539 04:35:32,960 --> 04:35:33,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3540 04:35:34,000 --> 04:35:37,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, pwede lang ipakita yung Economic Security Zone kanina. 3541 04:35:38,400 --> 04:35:41,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung binabanggit ko, yung mga statement ng U.S. Embassy. 3542 04:35:46,460 --> 04:35:47,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bagal. 3543 04:35:47,120 --> 04:35:48,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mabagal yung ano natin. 3544 04:35:49,540 --> 04:35:49,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3545 04:35:50,280 --> 04:36:00,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The point I wanted to make there is, the State Department uses the term Economic Security Zone in their public releases. 3546 04:36:00,660 --> 04:36:00,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3547 04:36:01,440 --> 04:36:11,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang tanong ko sa Pilipinas, sa gobyerno ng Pilipinas, particular sa BCDA, meron bang ganong animal sa batas ng Republika ng Pilipinas, Economic Security Zone? 3548 04:36:12,180 --> 04:36:12,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po ba? 3549 04:36:13,720 --> 04:36:15,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Under our laws? 3550 04:36:16,460 --> 04:36:36,580 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, wala pong kaming alam na batas na meron pong Economic Security Zone. 3551 04:36:36,580 --> 04:36:38,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, wala naman talaga. 3552 04:36:38,700 --> 04:36:39,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malinaw po. 3553 04:36:39,720 --> 04:36:43,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala talagang, there's no such thing as an Economic Security Zone. 3554 04:36:44,080 --> 04:36:46,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No such thing as joint governance. 3555 04:36:46,460 --> 04:36:53,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There's no such thing as joint governance under our laws, implying na parang may, maaaring may dalawang batas na iiral. 3556 04:36:53,860 --> 04:37:03,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po, yung, ang point lang ay sa official releases or statements to the public ng U.S. side, ganyan po ang kanila. 3557 04:37:04,600 --> 04:37:11,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na ang itatatag under Paxilica dito sa Pilipinas is something called an Economic Security Zone. 3558 04:37:11,600 --> 04:37:14,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, una pa lang, mukhang may problema na eh. 3559 04:37:14,720 --> 04:37:14,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3560 04:37:16,460 --> 04:37:18,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi na nagsasalubog doon. 3561 04:37:18,820 --> 04:37:20,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo, magkakaroon ng pirmahan. 3562 04:37:21,380 --> 04:37:24,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Eh, malinaw, may inam po, ilinaw natin. 3563 04:37:25,280 --> 04:37:34,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala ang ganyang animal sa ating batas at hindi dapat pumayag ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas dyan. 3564 04:37:34,380 --> 04:37:35,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3565 04:37:35,940 --> 04:37:43,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ngayon, punta na tayo doon sa proposal for a Paxilica Coordination Office in Clark. 3566 04:37:43,700 --> 04:37:46,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the BCDA presents its proposal. 3567 04:37:46,460 --> 04:37:55,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Proposal to the Department of State of the United States of America on the establishment of a Paxilica Coordination Office 3568 04:37:55,880 --> 04:38:04,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in an area of approximately 4,000 acres strategically located in the Luzon Economic Corridor. 3569 04:38:05,380 --> 04:38:08,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang offer nyo po, magtatayo ng Paxilica Coordination Office. 3570 04:38:09,660 --> 04:38:10,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 3571 04:38:10,940 --> 04:38:11,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, sabi dito, 3572 04:38:11,960 --> 04:38:12,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so, 3573 04:38:12,080 --> 04:38:16,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ang gagawin? 3574 04:38:16,460 --> 04:38:19,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano itong Paxilica Coordination Office? 3575 04:38:20,620 --> 04:38:28,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It will serve as a principal bilateral facility to undertake the following functions. 3576 04:38:29,800 --> 04:38:36,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: One, coordination of critical mineral supply chain security initiatives between the two nations. 3577 04:38:37,300 --> 04:38:41,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Facilitation of joint strategic industrial planning and infrastructure development 3578 04:38:41,840 --> 04:38:46,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within the Luzon Economic Corridor. 3579 04:38:46,460 --> 04:38:53,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Number four, coordination of allied investment and private capital mobilization for economic security projects. 3580 04:38:53,840 --> 04:39:01,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Number four, support for workforce development, technology transfer, and capacity building activities 3581 04:39:01,300 --> 04:39:06,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: aligned with bilateral economic security objectives and five such other activities 3582 04:39:06,480 --> 04:39:13,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as the two governments may mutually determine to be consistent with the purposes of the coordination office. 3583 04:39:13,220 --> 04:39:15,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, magtatayo po ng opisina. 3584 04:39:15,360 --> 04:39:16,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 3585 04:39:17,900 --> 04:39:20,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, ito may mga functions nga, 3586 04:39:20,780 --> 04:39:22,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: koordinative functions. 3587 04:39:22,860 --> 04:39:26,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pwede po bang mag-elaborate lang dahil hindi natin makuha 3588 04:39:26,580 --> 04:39:30,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: based on a reading of the letter. 3589 04:39:35,360 --> 04:39:38,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sino po ang katao? 3590 04:39:38,140 --> 04:39:41,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil coordination, parang merong Philippine 3591 04:39:41,820 --> 04:39:45,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na representative, 3592 04:39:45,360 --> 04:39:47,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos may U.S. 3593 04:39:47,300 --> 04:39:47,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po ba? 3594 04:39:49,220 --> 04:39:49,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 3595 04:39:51,940 --> 04:39:54,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung coordination office, bilateral eh. 3596 04:40:08,780 --> 04:40:11,400 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 3597 04:40:11,400 --> 04:40:14,180 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Noong pong earlier, 3598 04:40:15,360 --> 04:40:17,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: time po na binraft po ito, 3599 04:40:18,220 --> 04:40:20,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yun lang po yung ginamit na terminology, 3600 04:40:21,540 --> 04:40:24,000 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung Paxilica Coordination Office. 3601 04:40:24,260 --> 04:40:27,180 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: But, in a fast forward today, 3602 04:40:27,820 --> 04:40:31,340 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po yung Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park. 3603 04:40:32,060 --> 04:40:33,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park. 3604 04:40:33,260 --> 04:40:35,220 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po yung 4,000 acres or 1,600 hectares. 3605 04:40:35,220 --> 04:40:39,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun na na po. Actually, yun ang pinupunto ko batay dito. 3606 04:40:39,020 --> 04:40:41,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi dito, sinasabi opisina. 3607 04:40:42,140 --> 04:40:43,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Office, coordination office. 3608 04:40:44,360 --> 04:40:44,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And yet, 3609 04:40:45,360 --> 04:40:46,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang halo-halo, 3610 04:40:46,880 --> 04:40:50,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil yung Paxilica Coordination Office 3611 04:40:50,740 --> 04:40:53,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in an area of approximately 4,000 acres. 3612 04:40:54,260 --> 04:40:54,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang, 3613 04:40:56,120 --> 04:40:56,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung, 3614 04:40:56,620 --> 04:40:59,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano naman magkakaroon ng opisina na may 4,000 acres? 3615 04:41:00,600 --> 04:41:02,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos yung functions ng opisina, 3616 04:41:03,540 --> 04:41:04,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang ano lang, 3617 04:41:04,820 --> 04:41:06,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isang coordinating body. 3618 04:41:07,260 --> 04:41:07,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 3619 04:41:09,460 --> 04:41:09,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yet, 3620 04:41:09,820 --> 04:41:12,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the second part, 3621 04:41:12,580 --> 04:41:14,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: terms, identification of the site, 3622 04:41:14,720 --> 04:41:15,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and other, 3623 04:41:15,120 --> 04:41:16,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or lease terms, 3624 04:41:16,120 --> 04:41:23,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the maps showing the proposed site within New Clark City in the Luzon Economic Corridor are attached. 3625 04:41:25,560 --> 04:41:28,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, ito na po yung 4,000 acres. 3626 04:41:29,040 --> 04:41:31,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mukhang sa konsepto pa lang ay pinaghalo na 3627 04:41:31,860 --> 04:41:37,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung coordination office at saka yung economic zone, kumbaga, 3628 04:41:37,880 --> 04:41:42,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o yung tinatawag niyong Advanced Manufacturing Park. 3629 04:41:42,960 --> 04:41:43,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Park. 3630 04:41:43,200 --> 04:41:43,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker. 3631 04:41:43,820 --> 04:41:44,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3632 04:41:45,120 --> 04:41:47,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po. 3633 04:41:47,760 --> 04:41:49,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una, question mark natin dito. 3634 04:41:49,840 --> 04:41:50,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba talaga? 3635 04:41:50,580 --> 04:41:51,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Office or park? 3636 04:41:52,300 --> 04:41:52,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3637 04:41:52,720 --> 04:41:53,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ngayon sinasabi niyo park. 3638 04:41:54,120 --> 04:41:54,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, 3639 04:41:54,780 --> 04:41:58,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there is a subsequent amended proposal. 3640 04:41:59,440 --> 04:41:59,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po ba? 3641 04:42:03,080 --> 04:42:04,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Again, Madam Speaker, 3642 04:42:04,480 --> 04:42:05,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague, 3643 04:42:05,560 --> 04:42:08,040 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po ay preliminary proposal. 3644 04:42:08,600 --> 04:42:10,040 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, ito po ay magiging, 3645 04:42:10,080 --> 04:42:12,160 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: magkakaroon ng discussion. 3646 04:42:13,960 --> 04:42:14,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3647 04:42:14,480 --> 04:42:15,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And yet, 3648 04:42:15,120 --> 04:42:20,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Helberg of the United States replied and said, 3649 04:42:21,640 --> 04:42:27,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: thank you for your letter dated April 9, 2026, 3650 04:42:27,880 --> 04:42:32,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proposing an in-kind contribution of approximately 4,000 acres 3651 04:42:32,320 --> 04:42:35,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in New Clark City within the Luzon Economic Corridor, 3652 04:42:36,300 --> 04:42:38,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which could be used for a Paxilica coordination office. 3653 04:42:39,420 --> 04:42:40,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tinanggap ng US. 3654 04:42:41,260 --> 04:42:43,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coordination office ang tinanggap niya. 3655 04:42:43,080 --> 04:42:43,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3656 04:42:43,240 --> 04:42:45,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3657 04:42:45,900 --> 04:42:46,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 3658 04:42:47,540 --> 04:42:49,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang sinasabi niyo po, 3659 04:42:49,660 --> 04:42:51,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pang amended proposal 3660 04:42:51,680 --> 04:42:55,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para dito sa sinasabi niyong advanced manufacturing hub. 3661 04:42:55,640 --> 04:42:56,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po, Madam Speaker. 3662 04:42:56,880 --> 04:42:59,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O may problema na sa proposal pa lang. 3663 04:42:59,140 --> 04:42:59,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba siya? 3664 04:42:59,600 --> 04:43:00,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O piscina? 3665 04:43:00,420 --> 04:43:02,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O economic hub? 3666 04:43:03,560 --> 04:43:04,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That matters 3667 04:43:04,400 --> 04:43:05,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: because 3668 04:43:05,760 --> 04:43:08,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the loss, 3669 04:43:08,760 --> 04:43:09,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the existing loss. 3670 04:43:09,960 --> 04:43:10,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 3671 04:43:10,160 --> 04:43:11,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And how they will be applied. 3672 04:43:12,360 --> 04:43:12,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3673 04:43:13,240 --> 04:43:13,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, 3674 04:43:14,540 --> 04:43:17,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito sa offer ng BCDA, 3675 04:43:18,160 --> 04:43:19,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron pong terms, 3676 04:43:19,180 --> 04:43:19,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lease period. 3677 04:43:20,940 --> 04:43:21,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 3678 04:43:22,200 --> 04:43:22,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi dito, 3679 04:43:23,020 --> 04:43:26,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang offer ng Pilipinas as in-kind contribution of the Philippines, 3680 04:43:26,540 --> 04:43:28,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung ambag ng Pilipinas sa Paxilica, 3681 04:43:30,340 --> 04:43:31,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: two-year grace period, 3682 04:43:32,940 --> 04:43:34,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig sabihin libre. 3683 04:43:35,020 --> 04:43:36,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang renta, walang upa, kumbaga. 3684 04:43:37,200 --> 04:43:37,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 3685 04:43:38,300 --> 04:43:39,560 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tama po, Madam Speaker. 3686 04:43:39,780 --> 04:43:39,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3687 04:43:39,800 --> 04:43:40,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, 3688 04:43:41,360 --> 04:43:43,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: year three, 3689 04:43:43,240 --> 04:43:44,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: until end of term, 3690 04:43:44,800 --> 04:43:45,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to be discussed. 3691 04:43:46,400 --> 04:43:47,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pag-usapan na lang 3692 04:43:47,400 --> 04:43:49,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: after two years. 3693 04:43:49,880 --> 04:43:50,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker. 3694 04:43:50,700 --> 04:43:52,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nasa ilalim po yan ng section 3695 04:43:52,400 --> 04:43:54,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: A called lease period. 3696 04:43:55,540 --> 04:43:55,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, 3697 04:43:57,420 --> 04:43:57,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos sunod, 3698 04:43:58,000 --> 04:43:59,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renewal and reversion. 3699 04:43:59,940 --> 04:44:01,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, wala namang binabanggit 3700 04:44:01,200 --> 04:44:02,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: about the actual lease period. 3701 04:44:02,800 --> 04:44:03,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gano'ng katagal po yung 3702 04:44:03,960 --> 04:44:05,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magiging lease? 3703 04:44:06,780 --> 04:44:07,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pong nakalagay dito? 3704 04:44:08,640 --> 04:44:10,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa po, Madam Speaker. 3705 04:44:10,080 --> 04:44:10,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3706 04:44:10,280 --> 04:44:11,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gano'ng katagal nga ba 3707 04:44:11,740 --> 04:44:13,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang magiging lease period? 3708 04:44:13,240 --> 04:44:15,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: It will depend po doon sa 3709 04:44:15,700 --> 04:44:16,760 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: mapag-uusapan po 3710 04:44:16,760 --> 04:44:16,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at mapag-finalize po. 3711 04:44:16,920 --> 04:44:18,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Depends sa mapag-uusapan. 3712 04:44:20,160 --> 04:44:21,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Minimum two years, 3713 04:44:21,480 --> 04:44:22,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun ang in-offer nyo. 3714 04:44:23,260 --> 04:44:24,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, pwedeng 3715 04:44:24,340 --> 04:44:27,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a third year, 3716 04:44:27,320 --> 04:44:29,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: three years onwards, 3717 04:44:30,000 --> 04:44:31,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero pag-uusapan pa. 3718 04:44:31,720 --> 04:44:32,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Under our laws, 3719 04:44:33,140 --> 04:44:34,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hanggang gano'ng katagal po 3720 04:44:34,260 --> 04:44:35,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede ang lease, 3721 04:44:35,160 --> 04:44:35,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maximum? 3722 04:44:36,700 --> 04:44:38,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa bago po nating batas, 3723 04:44:38,200 --> 04:44:38,980 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 99 years. 3724 04:44:38,980 --> 04:44:40,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 99 years. 3725 04:44:40,160 --> 04:44:41,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwedeng 99 years. 3726 04:44:41,400 --> 04:44:41,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3727 04:44:42,540 --> 04:44:42,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3728 04:44:43,240 --> 04:44:44,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, wala pang masabi. 3729 04:44:44,440 --> 04:44:45,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, 3730 04:44:45,200 --> 04:44:46,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit wala pang masabi? 3731 04:44:47,180 --> 04:44:48,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Posible ba na after two years, 3732 04:44:48,900 --> 04:44:50,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: di natin alam kung nandyan pa 3733 04:44:50,140 --> 04:44:51,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Trump administration? 3734 04:44:51,980 --> 04:44:52,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Eh, definitely, 3735 04:44:52,560 --> 04:44:55,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala na ang Trump administration. 3736 04:44:55,220 --> 04:44:56,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last term na ni Trump. 3737 04:44:57,220 --> 04:44:58,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba pwede rin na 3738 04:44:58,940 --> 04:44:59,958 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag may bagong... 3739 04:44:59,958 --> 04:45:02,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Presidente ng U.S., baka hindi na ituloy ito. 3740 04:45:03,500 --> 04:45:04,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba posible yun? 3741 04:45:06,060 --> 04:45:07,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, kaya po, 3742 04:45:08,380 --> 04:45:10,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: two years grace period. 3743 04:45:10,460 --> 04:45:10,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ayun. 3744 04:45:11,720 --> 04:45:13,360 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tapos, upon discussion, 3745 04:45:13,600 --> 04:45:16,760 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kung ilan po yung years na mapag-uusapan, 3746 04:45:17,300 --> 04:45:20,460 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at ano po yung magiging lease rate year three onward. 3747 04:45:20,620 --> 04:45:23,580 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, again, mahila po mag-speculate 3748 04:45:23,580 --> 04:45:27,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kasi po wala pa po tayong final agreement. 3749 04:45:27,600 --> 04:45:29,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, yun po malinaw ang offer. 3750 04:45:29,800 --> 04:45:32,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ang sabi po dito ni Helberg, 3751 04:45:32,380 --> 04:45:33,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung Amerikano, 3752 04:45:34,420 --> 04:45:34,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi niya, 3753 04:45:35,520 --> 04:45:39,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the United States welcomes this generous offer 3754 04:45:39,020 --> 04:45:43,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and accepts the proposed two-year rent-free lease 3755 04:45:43,360 --> 04:45:45,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as in-kind confirmation 3756 04:45:45,140 --> 04:45:47,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the government of the Philippines 3757 04:45:47,480 --> 04:45:51,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subject to confirmation of the precise location and boundaries 3758 04:45:51,300 --> 04:45:54,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and conclusion of an appropriate lease agreement 3759 04:45:54,680 --> 04:45:56,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: along the lines proposed in your letter. 3760 04:45:56,700 --> 04:45:58,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tinanggap na ng mga Amerikano, 3761 04:45:58,200 --> 04:45:59,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi, okay, libre. 3762 04:45:59,100 --> 04:46:01,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Payag kami dyan. 3763 04:46:01,380 --> 04:46:02,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dalawang taon. 3764 04:46:02,920 --> 04:46:05,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, further negotiation. 3765 04:46:06,200 --> 04:46:07,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Malinaw po yun, no? 3766 04:46:07,880 --> 04:46:10,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, dun sa issue, dito po sa letter nyo, 3767 04:46:12,440 --> 04:46:19,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regarding status and access. 3768 04:46:20,300 --> 04:46:21,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Status and access. 3769 04:46:22,380 --> 04:46:25,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Both governments shall consult 3770 04:46:25,020 --> 04:46:27,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with respect to the status of personnel 3771 04:46:27,360 --> 04:46:28,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: assigned to the coordination of the government. 3772 04:46:28,680 --> 04:46:30,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The coordination office 3773 04:46:30,380 --> 04:46:35,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and arrangements for access and internal security 3774 04:46:35,440 --> 04:46:38,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: applicable to the facility and its personnel 3775 04:46:38,500 --> 04:46:42,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: consistent with the provisions of Republic Act No. 7916, 3776 04:46:42,700 --> 04:46:45,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: otherwise known as the Special Economic Zone Act of 1995 3777 04:46:45,900 --> 04:46:48,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and other relevant laws of the Philippines. 3778 04:46:49,180 --> 04:46:50,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, actually, ang sabi dito, 3779 04:46:50,480 --> 04:46:54,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: status of personnel assigned to the coordination office. 3780 04:46:54,920 --> 04:46:56,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang dating po dito, 3781 04:46:57,380 --> 04:46:58,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government personnel, 3782 04:46:58,520 --> 04:46:58,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan, 3783 04:46:58,680 --> 04:46:59,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na-assign ng gobyerno nyo. 3784 04:47:00,520 --> 04:47:01,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. 3785 04:47:02,620 --> 04:47:03,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun yun, eh. 3786 04:47:03,980 --> 04:47:04,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun, nare-reading ko. 3787 04:47:05,780 --> 04:47:06,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in other words, 3788 04:47:06,720 --> 04:47:08,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as conceptualized, 3789 04:47:09,200 --> 04:47:12,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may personnel na-assign ng dalawang panig. 3790 04:47:13,160 --> 04:47:14,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Government of the Philippines 3791 04:47:14,400 --> 04:47:16,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then the government of the US, 3792 04:47:16,880 --> 04:47:18,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you will assign these personnel 3793 04:47:18,060 --> 04:47:19,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as to their status, 3794 04:47:20,500 --> 04:47:21,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung diplomatic status, 3795 04:47:23,140 --> 04:47:25,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: arrangement for access and internal security. 3796 04:47:25,800 --> 04:47:28,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag-uusapan, pero susundin ng batas. 3797 04:47:28,680 --> 04:47:29,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun yun, di ba? 3798 04:47:31,260 --> 04:47:33,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 3799 04:47:34,560 --> 04:47:35,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: etong proposal po, 3800 04:47:36,380 --> 04:47:38,960 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: is like a less or lessy agreement. 3801 04:47:39,640 --> 04:47:41,820 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po pinag-uusapan po yung area 3802 04:47:41,820 --> 04:47:45,180 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: which is 1,600 hectares or 4,000 acres 3803 04:47:45,180 --> 04:47:47,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at meron pong lease payments. 3804 04:47:48,500 --> 04:47:48,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3805 04:47:49,340 --> 04:47:51,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, well, but this proposal 3806 04:47:51,440 --> 04:47:54,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as submitted and officially accepted, 3807 04:47:54,520 --> 04:47:56,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: submitted by Philippine government, 3808 04:47:56,940 --> 04:47:57,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: officially accepted, 3809 04:47:57,820 --> 04:47:58,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba po yung terms. 3810 04:47:58,680 --> 04:48:00,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is not a lease agreement. 3811 04:48:00,740 --> 04:48:02,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang usapan to between two governments, 3812 04:48:03,160 --> 04:48:05,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: about a joint coordination office. 3813 04:48:06,140 --> 04:48:07,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ngayon, sinasabi nyo, 3814 04:48:07,160 --> 04:48:08,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba na ang usapan. 3815 04:48:09,320 --> 04:48:10,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero binanggit nyo, 3816 04:48:12,060 --> 04:48:13,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: status of personnel consistent 3817 04:48:13,820 --> 04:48:17,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with the provisions of Republic Act No. 7916. 3818 04:48:19,020 --> 04:48:19,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O. 3819 04:48:20,060 --> 04:48:22,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tignan natin ang Republic Act No. 7916. 3820 04:48:23,160 --> 04:48:24,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is, of course, the, 3821 04:48:25,540 --> 04:48:26,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano nga yan, 3822 04:48:26,680 --> 04:48:27,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that is the, 3823 04:48:28,680 --> 04:48:32,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the legal framework 3824 04:48:32,060 --> 04:48:36,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the Special Economic Zone Act of 1995. 3825 04:48:37,140 --> 04:48:37,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Short title. 3826 04:48:37,980 --> 04:48:38,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para maiksina lang. 3827 04:48:38,920 --> 04:48:39,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. 3828 04:48:40,280 --> 04:48:41,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan ang tinutukoy nyo. 3829 04:48:41,940 --> 04:48:42,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, 3830 04:48:42,900 --> 04:48:44,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with regard to status of personnel, 3831 04:48:45,800 --> 04:48:47,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang applicable lang po rin, 3832 04:48:47,380 --> 04:48:48,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: status and access, 3833 04:48:48,600 --> 04:48:50,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang applicable po rito na nakikita ko 3834 04:48:50,540 --> 04:48:52,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is section 10. 3835 04:48:54,060 --> 04:48:54,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Immigration. 3836 04:48:55,820 --> 04:48:56,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 3837 04:48:57,600 --> 04:48:58,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Any investor, 3838 04:48:58,680 --> 04:48:59,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within the Ecozone, 3839 04:48:59,940 --> 04:49:01,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: whose initial investment 3840 04:49:01,280 --> 04:49:04,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall not be less than $150,000, 3841 04:49:06,040 --> 04:49:07,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: his or her spouse, 3842 04:49:07,500 --> 04:49:08,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and dependent children, 3843 04:49:09,140 --> 04:49:10,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under 21 years of age, 3844 04:49:11,360 --> 04:49:14,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall be granted permanent resident status 3845 04:49:14,140 --> 04:49:15,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within the Ecozone. 3846 04:49:17,420 --> 04:49:19,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They shall have freedom of ingress and egress 3847 04:49:19,880 --> 04:49:21,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to and from the Ecozone, 3848 04:49:21,740 --> 04:49:24,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: without any need of special authorization 3849 04:49:24,100 --> 04:49:25,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the Bureau of Immigration. 3850 04:49:27,560 --> 04:49:28,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The PESA, 3851 04:49:28,680 --> 04:49:30,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall issue working visas, 3852 04:49:30,500 --> 04:49:32,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renewable every two years, 3853 04:49:32,340 --> 04:49:33,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to foreign executives 3854 04:49:33,460 --> 04:49:35,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and other aliens 3855 04:49:35,340 --> 04:49:37,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: possessing highly technical skills 3856 04:49:37,520 --> 04:49:38,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which no Filipino 3857 04:49:38,960 --> 04:49:41,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within the Ecozone possesses, 3858 04:49:41,360 --> 04:49:44,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as certified by the Department of Labor and Employment. 3859 04:49:44,940 --> 04:49:45,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The names of aliens 3860 04:49:45,960 --> 04:49:48,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: granted permanent resident status 3861 04:49:48,180 --> 04:49:52,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and working visas by the PESA 3862 04:49:52,080 --> 04:49:54,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall be reported to the Bureau of Immigration 3863 04:49:54,160 --> 04:49:56,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within 30 days after the issue once they're off. 3864 04:49:57,360 --> 04:49:58,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ba ang tinutukoy 3865 04:49:58,540 --> 04:49:59,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na probisyon dito? 3866 04:50:00,440 --> 04:50:01,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nito eh, 3867 04:50:01,400 --> 04:50:02,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: consistent with the provisions 3868 04:50:02,820 --> 04:50:05,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Republic Act No. 7916. 3869 04:50:05,600 --> 04:50:06,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3870 04:50:06,800 --> 04:50:07,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3871 04:50:07,740 --> 04:50:08,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 3872 04:50:09,400 --> 04:50:10,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in other words, 3873 04:50:10,560 --> 04:50:14,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: permanent resident status 3874 04:50:14,140 --> 04:50:16,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kapag ka-investor, 3875 04:50:16,620 --> 04:50:17,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-invest, 3876 04:50:17,340 --> 04:50:18,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung kapitalista mismo 3877 04:50:18,480 --> 04:50:22,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na nag-invest ng $150,000 or more. 3878 04:50:23,320 --> 04:50:23,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po? 3879 04:50:26,280 --> 04:50:27,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. 3880 04:50:28,540 --> 04:50:28,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3881 04:50:28,900 --> 04:50:29,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3882 04:50:35,420 --> 04:50:36,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yan po. 3883 04:50:36,980 --> 04:50:38,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, nalilito na po tayo ngayon, 3884 04:50:38,740 --> 04:50:40,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung Coordination Office. 3885 04:50:43,120 --> 04:50:45,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mukhang kahit po yung BCDA 3886 04:50:45,100 --> 04:50:46,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nalito sa kanilang proposal. 3887 04:50:46,880 --> 04:50:48,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang malinaw 3888 04:50:48,140 --> 04:50:50,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na pinopropose nyo opisina, 3889 04:50:50,460 --> 04:50:51,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero actually, 3890 04:50:51,220 --> 04:50:52,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang concept nyo na ngayon 3891 04:50:52,360 --> 04:50:56,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay Advanced AI Manufacturing Zone, 3892 04:50:57,140 --> 04:50:58,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meaning Ecozone. 3893 04:50:58,540 --> 04:50:58,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3894 04:50:59,420 --> 04:50:59,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3895 04:50:59,800 --> 04:51:00,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pinoint out po natin 3896 04:51:00,840 --> 04:51:01,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa proposal pa lang. 3897 04:51:01,920 --> 04:51:03,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mukhang may problema na. 3898 04:51:03,900 --> 04:51:04,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, 3899 04:51:04,520 --> 04:51:06,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: palapit na po yung matapos yung oras. 3900 04:51:06,560 --> 04:51:07,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya tatalon ako. 3901 04:51:08,840 --> 04:51:10,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Doon nga po sa issue ng 3902 04:51:10,280 --> 04:51:12,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: indigenous people. 3903 04:51:14,000 --> 04:51:14,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3904 04:51:16,900 --> 04:51:18,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pong sulat. 3905 04:51:18,360 --> 04:51:19,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakiflash na lang. 3906 04:51:19,680 --> 04:51:20,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kanina, actually, 3907 04:51:20,680 --> 04:51:22,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binasa ko almost yung full text nito 3908 04:51:22,740 --> 04:51:25,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in my interpolation 3909 04:51:25,040 --> 04:51:28,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the NCIS. 3910 04:51:28,540 --> 04:51:30,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is the letter 3911 04:51:30,400 --> 04:51:31,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: coming from 3912 04:51:31,760 --> 04:51:33,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the BCDA. 3913 04:51:34,140 --> 04:51:36,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, meron pong sulat ang BCDA 3914 04:51:36,500 --> 04:51:38,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga residente 3915 04:51:39,300 --> 04:51:40,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng, in this case, 3916 04:51:41,920 --> 04:51:42,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Barangay Santa Lucia 3917 04:51:42,920 --> 04:51:44,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Kapas Tarlac. 3918 04:51:44,800 --> 04:51:45,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang sabi, 3919 04:51:46,500 --> 04:51:48,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tungkol daw po ito sa proyekto 3920 04:51:48,780 --> 04:51:52,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maapektuhan ng proyektong 3921 04:51:52,040 --> 04:51:52,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: New Clark City, 3922 04:51:53,420 --> 04:51:55,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya kayo po ay malugod namin 3923 04:51:55,360 --> 04:51:57,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inaanyayahan na makipag-ugnayan 3924 04:51:57,120 --> 04:51:58,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa aming opisina upang 3925 04:51:58,380 --> 04:51:59,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mapag-usapan 3926 04:51:59,400 --> 04:52:02,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga prosesong pagdadaanan 3927 04:52:02,020 --> 04:52:02,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng proyekto, 3928 04:52:03,400 --> 04:52:05,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama rito ang anumang tulong 3929 04:52:05,240 --> 04:52:08,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na may pagkakaloob ng gobyerno. 3930 04:52:09,500 --> 04:52:09,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3931 04:52:09,600 --> 04:52:10,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang 3932 04:52:10,320 --> 04:52:13,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig po sabihin, 3933 04:52:13,300 --> 04:52:14,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi ng mga residente rito, 3934 04:52:14,760 --> 04:52:15,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay essentially, 3935 04:52:16,000 --> 04:52:17,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagpapalikas na sa kanila. 3936 04:52:18,000 --> 04:52:19,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sinasabing tulong 3937 04:52:19,200 --> 04:52:21,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay tulong para 3938 04:52:21,100 --> 04:52:22,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa relocation. 3939 04:52:23,520 --> 04:52:23,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 3940 04:52:23,800 --> 04:52:24,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag-alis. 3941 04:52:26,140 --> 04:52:27,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kinukompirmadyo po ba 3942 04:52:27,340 --> 04:52:27,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na 3943 04:52:28,380 --> 04:52:29,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ongoing po 3944 04:52:29,720 --> 04:52:31,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pamimigay ng ganitong mga sulat 3945 04:52:31,800 --> 04:52:33,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at kalakit nung 3946 04:52:33,920 --> 04:52:35,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o kasama nung 3947 04:52:35,240 --> 04:52:36,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagpapaalis 3948 04:52:36,780 --> 04:52:38,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga residente? 3949 04:52:43,680 --> 04:52:44,940 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 3950 04:52:45,100 --> 04:52:46,200 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague, 3951 04:52:46,600 --> 04:52:47,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: etong sulat na to po 3952 04:52:47,880 --> 04:52:49,120 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay para po sa 3953 04:52:49,120 --> 04:52:51,120 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Master Development Plan 3954 04:52:51,120 --> 04:52:53,620 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng BCDA 3955 04:52:53,620 --> 04:52:55,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa New Clark City. 3956 04:52:56,000 --> 04:52:57,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, ibig sabihin po, 3957 04:52:57,140 --> 04:52:58,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pwede pong, 3958 04:52:59,540 --> 04:53:00,000 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po, 3959 04:53:00,120 --> 04:53:01,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi ko po alam kung kanina ito 3960 04:53:01,440 --> 04:53:02,000 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: naka-address, 3961 04:53:02,140 --> 04:53:04,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pero pwede pong ito ay para sa daan 3962 04:53:04,280 --> 04:53:06,840 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: o sa ibang bagay 3963 04:53:06,840 --> 04:53:07,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa development po 3964 04:53:07,920 --> 04:53:08,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng Master Plan 3965 04:53:08,900 --> 04:53:10,640 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng buong New Clark City. 3966 04:53:10,640 --> 04:53:12,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, katulad na nabanggit 3967 04:53:12,240 --> 04:53:14,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga iba nating kasamahan, 3968 04:53:15,120 --> 04:53:17,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay malagana po. 3969 04:53:17,440 --> 04:53:18,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marami po ang pinapadala 3970 04:53:18,640 --> 04:53:19,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng ganyan, 3971 04:53:19,660 --> 04:53:21,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama po yung mga 3972 04:53:21,020 --> 04:53:23,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasa barangay ng Arangurin, 3973 04:53:23,620 --> 04:53:24,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kutkut, 3974 04:53:24,840 --> 04:53:25,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell, 3975 04:53:26,020 --> 04:53:27,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at ito, Santa Lucia, 3976 04:53:27,140 --> 04:53:29,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi po ba ito ay saklaw din 3977 04:53:29,820 --> 04:53:31,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung proyektong Paksilika 3978 04:53:31,920 --> 04:53:33,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa New Clark City? 3979 04:53:39,000 --> 04:53:39,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito pong sulat, 3980 04:53:40,460 --> 04:53:42,440 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sorry Madam Speaker, 3981 04:53:42,540 --> 04:53:43,100 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 3982 04:53:43,240 --> 04:53:44,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: itong sulat pong ito, 3983 04:53:44,720 --> 04:53:45,080 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: again, 3984 04:53:45,360 --> 04:53:46,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: is for the 3985 04:53:46,280 --> 04:53:48,420 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Master Plan Development 3986 04:53:48,420 --> 04:53:50,280 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: para po maipaliwanag 3987 04:53:50,280 --> 04:53:52,500 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: dito po sa atin pong mga 3988 04:53:52,500 --> 04:53:53,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sinulatan. 3989 04:53:54,260 --> 04:53:54,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 3990 04:53:56,060 --> 04:53:57,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero tama po, 3991 04:53:57,140 --> 04:53:59,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker, 3992 04:54:00,000 --> 04:54:01,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: patapos na po. 3993 04:54:01,400 --> 04:54:01,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. 3994 04:54:04,360 --> 04:54:06,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba na yung mga barangay na ito 3995 04:54:06,500 --> 04:54:07,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay yung mahahagit 3996 04:54:07,620 --> 04:54:10,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 1,600 hectares? 3997 04:54:11,000 --> 04:54:12,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po, Arangurin, Kutkut, 3998 04:54:12,520 --> 04:54:13,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell, 3999 04:54:13,400 --> 04:54:15,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Santa Lucia. 4000 04:54:18,260 --> 04:54:19,500 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 4001 04:54:19,640 --> 04:54:20,720 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague, 4002 04:54:21,220 --> 04:54:23,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po kasama 4003 04:54:23,740 --> 04:54:26,020 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung 1,600 4004 04:54:26,020 --> 04:54:27,240 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: dito, 4005 04:54:27,520 --> 04:54:28,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po tinutukoy 4006 04:54:28,920 --> 04:54:30,000 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng sulat na ito, 4007 04:54:30,380 --> 04:54:32,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung pong 1,600 hectares 4008 04:54:32,700 --> 04:54:33,340 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng camp. 4009 04:54:33,340 --> 04:54:34,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo, yung sulat na yan. 4010 04:54:34,880 --> 04:54:35,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero yung tanong ko po, 4011 04:54:36,160 --> 04:54:37,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano po yung mga barangay 4012 04:54:37,380 --> 04:54:38,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Arangurin, Kutkut, 4013 04:54:39,300 --> 04:54:39,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell? 4014 04:54:40,840 --> 04:54:41,900 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ano po, Madam Speaker? 4015 04:54:42,040 --> 04:54:42,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Can you repeat that please? 4016 04:54:42,940 --> 04:54:43,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Arangurin, 4017 04:54:43,920 --> 04:54:44,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kutkut, 4018 04:54:45,860 --> 04:54:46,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell. 4019 04:54:48,340 --> 04:54:48,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell. 4020 04:54:50,460 --> 04:54:50,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell. 4021 04:54:52,180 --> 04:54:52,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell. 4022 04:54:52,780 --> 04:54:53,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po. 4023 04:54:53,560 --> 04:54:54,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagpunta po kami doon. 4024 04:54:54,580 --> 04:54:55,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun ang pag-pronunciation. 4025 04:54:56,020 --> 04:54:56,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag-pronunciation nila eh. 4026 04:54:56,800 --> 04:54:57,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell. 4027 04:54:58,100 --> 04:54:58,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 4028 04:55:07,800 --> 04:55:16,880 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 4029 04:55:17,080 --> 04:55:18,140 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague, 4030 04:55:18,540 --> 04:55:20,820 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung sulat po ay pinadala 4031 04:55:20,820 --> 04:55:22,920 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa kanilang residential address 4032 04:55:22,920 --> 04:55:23,800 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa labas po 4033 04:55:23,800 --> 04:55:25,400 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng New Clark City. 4034 04:55:25,400 --> 04:55:25,780 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pero, 4035 04:55:26,020 --> 04:55:27,680 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: meron pong maapektuhan 4036 04:55:27,680 --> 04:55:29,300 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa loob ng New Clark City 4037 04:55:29,300 --> 04:55:31,220 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa Master Plan Development. 4038 04:55:31,680 --> 04:55:33,060 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po sila sinulatan. 4039 04:55:33,460 --> 04:55:34,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi nga yung sulat. 4040 04:55:34,820 --> 04:55:36,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong mga barangay yung covered 4041 04:55:36,780 --> 04:55:38,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung 1,600? 4042 04:55:39,560 --> 04:55:40,200 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Barangay. 4043 04:55:40,520 --> 04:55:41,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan na nga. 4044 04:55:41,140 --> 04:55:42,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi po ba kasama dito 4045 04:55:42,800 --> 04:55:44,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung Arangurin, Kutkut, 4046 04:55:45,240 --> 04:55:45,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell? 4047 04:55:45,840 --> 04:55:46,320 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Arangurin. 4048 04:55:47,780 --> 04:55:48,560 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 4049 04:55:48,700 --> 04:55:49,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague, 4050 04:55:49,920 --> 04:55:50,740 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung barangay po 4051 04:55:50,740 --> 04:55:51,700 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa kapas po lahat ito. 4052 04:55:51,700 --> 04:55:52,420 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Arangule. 4053 04:55:52,980 --> 04:55:53,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. 4054 04:55:53,360 --> 04:55:54,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kapas po lahat ito. 4055 04:55:54,780 --> 04:55:55,200 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Arangule. 4056 04:55:56,020 --> 04:55:58,020 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Arangguren. 4057 04:55:58,020 --> 04:55:58,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Opo. 4058 04:55:58,520 --> 04:55:59,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence 4059 04:55:59,520 --> 04:56:01,020 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of our good colleague. 4060 04:56:01,020 --> 04:56:01,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo. 4061 04:56:01,520 --> 04:56:03,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Your time is past 30 minutes. 4062 04:56:03,520 --> 04:56:04,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 4063 04:56:04,020 --> 04:56:05,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Patapos na po. 4064 04:56:05,020 --> 04:56:06,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Please wind up. 4065 04:56:06,520 --> 04:56:08,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naghihintay lang po tayo sa sagot, 4066 04:56:08,020 --> 04:56:09,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker. 4067 04:56:09,020 --> 04:56:10,020 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, 4068 04:56:10,020 --> 04:56:11,020 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung barangay po 4069 04:56:11,020 --> 04:56:13,020 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng Arangguran at O'Donnell. 4070 04:56:13,020 --> 04:56:15,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay kasama. 4071 04:56:15,020 --> 04:56:16,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4072 04:56:16,020 --> 04:56:18,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ito po ay, 4073 04:56:18,020 --> 04:56:19,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naggaling kami ron 4074 04:56:19,020 --> 04:56:20,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung September 11, 4075 04:56:20,020 --> 04:56:22,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: karamihan po ng mga residente 4076 04:56:22,020 --> 04:56:23,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay mga AITA. 4077 04:56:23,520 --> 04:56:25,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang tanong po ngayon, 4078 04:56:25,520 --> 04:56:27,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay meron na po bang 4079 04:56:27,520 --> 04:56:30,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: free prior informed consent 4080 04:56:30,520 --> 04:56:34,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa pagtutuloy ng proyekto 4081 04:56:34,520 --> 04:56:37,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Pax Silica. 4082 04:56:37,520 --> 04:56:38,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 4083 04:56:38,520 --> 04:56:39,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: distinguished colleague, 4084 04:56:39,520 --> 04:56:40,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: again, 4085 04:56:40,520 --> 04:56:43,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po ito ancestral domain. 4086 04:56:43,520 --> 04:56:44,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Opo. 4087 04:56:44,520 --> 04:56:45,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po, 4088 04:56:47,520 --> 04:56:50,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po required sa aming pananaw 4089 04:56:50,520 --> 04:56:52,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung FPIC. 4090 04:56:52,520 --> 04:56:53,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po. 4091 04:56:53,520 --> 04:56:54,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil totoo naman yun, 4092 04:56:54,520 --> 04:56:57,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pa silang CADTI pending pa po, 4093 04:56:57,520 --> 04:57:00,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: originally filed in 1991, 4094 04:57:00,520 --> 04:57:02,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1999, 4095 04:57:02,520 --> 04:57:05,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and refiled in 2021. 4096 04:57:05,520 --> 04:57:07,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pong application for CADTI 4097 04:57:07,520 --> 04:57:09,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa area na yan, 4098 04:57:09,520 --> 04:57:12,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga AITA Hungay. 4099 04:57:12,520 --> 04:57:14,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang pangalan ng kanilang grupo 4100 04:57:14,520 --> 04:57:16,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at confirmado po yan ng NCIP. 4101 04:57:16,520 --> 04:57:18,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sinasabi ng NCIP, 4102 04:57:18,520 --> 04:57:20,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: basta may pending application, 4103 04:57:20,520 --> 04:57:23,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kailangan pa rin may konsultasyon 4104 04:57:23,520 --> 04:57:26,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga IP na nandyan po. 4105 04:57:26,520 --> 04:57:28,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 4106 04:57:28,520 --> 04:57:30,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: distinguished colleague, 4107 04:57:30,520 --> 04:57:34,520 Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ang BCDA po ay nakikipag-ugnayan sa NCIP. 4108 04:57:34,520 --> 04:57:35,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4109 04:57:35,520 --> 04:57:36,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 4110 04:57:36,520 --> 04:57:38,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yamang may mga concerns po tayo. 4111 04:57:38,520 --> 04:57:40,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Inamin ng NCIP, 4112 04:57:40,520 --> 04:57:42,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o napakita natin na kahit yung 4113 04:57:42,520 --> 04:57:47,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: original proposal ng BCDA ay 4114 04:57:47,520 --> 04:57:49,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit sila nalilito. 4115 04:57:49,520 --> 04:57:50,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba talaga? 4116 04:57:50,520 --> 04:57:52,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coordination office o economic zone? 4117 04:57:52,520 --> 04:57:54,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pangalawa, 4118 04:57:54,520 --> 04:57:55,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malinaw po, 4119 04:57:55,520 --> 04:57:56,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inamin din, 4120 04:57:56,520 --> 04:57:59,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na meron talagang mga barangay na masasaklaw dito 4121 04:57:59,520 --> 04:58:03,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na meron na komunidad ng mga AITA, 4122 04:58:03,520 --> 04:58:05,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga indigenous peoples. 4123 04:58:05,520 --> 04:58:07,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sinasabi nila, 4124 04:58:07,520 --> 04:58:08,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa tingin nila, 4125 04:58:08,520 --> 04:58:10,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi raw kailangan na 4126 04:58:10,520 --> 04:58:13,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makuha ang kanilang consent. 4127 04:58:13,520 --> 04:58:16,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi sila covered ng IPRA requirements, no? 4128 04:58:22,200 --> 04:58:24,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yamang may mga serious concerns pa po tayo rito. 4129 04:58:24,520 --> 04:58:25,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 4130 04:58:25,520 --> 04:58:30,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I move to suspend deliberation on the proposed budget 4131 04:58:30,520 --> 04:58:33,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority 4132 04:58:33,520 --> 04:58:36,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to allow the consideration of the proposed budget 4133 04:58:36,520 --> 04:58:39,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the other remaining agencies scheduled today. 4134 04:58:39,520 --> 04:58:40,520 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, 4135 04:58:40,520 --> 04:58:41,520 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: on the part of the majority, 4136 04:58:41,520 --> 04:58:43,520 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: we join the minority in the motion. 4137 04:58:43,520 --> 04:58:45,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a joint motion to suspend consideration 4138 04:58:45,520 --> 04:58:46,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the proposed budget of 4139 04:58:46,520 --> 04:58:48,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Bases Conversion and Development Authority. 4140 04:58:48,520 --> 04:58:49,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do you hear an objection? 4141 04:58:50,520 --> 04:58:51,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, 4142 04:58:51,520 --> 04:58:53,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the joint motion is approved. 4143 04:58:56,520 --> 04:58:58,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Consideration of the proposed budget 4144 04:58:58,520 --> 04:59:00,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of BCDA is suspended. 4145 04:59:00,520 --> 04:59:01,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader? 4146 04:59:01,520 --> 04:59:02,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, 4147 04:59:02,520 --> 04:59:04,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move to consider the proposed budget 4148 04:59:04,520 --> 04:59:07,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority. 4149 04:59:09,520 --> 04:59:11,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we also request the Majority Leader 4150 04:59:11,520 --> 04:59:14,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to move for the recognition 4151 04:59:14,520 --> 04:59:16,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the sponsor and the interpolator. 4152 04:59:17,520 --> 04:59:18,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, 4153 04:59:18,520 --> 04:59:20,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: may we acknowledge the officials 4154 04:59:20,520 --> 04:59:21,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Subic Bay... 4155 04:59:21,830 --> 04:59:22,930 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended. 4156 04:59:36,650 --> 04:59:37,630 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. 4157 04:59:39,520 --> 04:59:40,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, 4158 04:59:40,520 --> 04:59:41,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: may we acknowledge the officials 4159 04:59:41,520 --> 04:59:43,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority, 4160 04:59:43,520 --> 04:59:46,520 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Chairman and Administrator Eduardo Aliño. 4161 04:59:46,520 --> 04:59:48,240 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I so move, Madam Speaker. 4162 04:59:50,860 --> 04:59:51,680 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, 4163 04:59:51,940 --> 04:59:52,940 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize 4164 04:59:52,940 --> 04:59:56,880 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Bella Vanessa Swancing, 4165 04:59:56,880 --> 05:00:01,820 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Subic Bay. 4166 05:00:01,840 --> 05:00:08,100 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority 4167 05:00:08,100 --> 05:00:13,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and for this purpose, the Hon. Bella Swansing is recognized to sponsor said measure 4168 05:00:13,520 --> 05:00:16,820 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and the Hon. Rene Luis Co as interpellator. 4169 05:00:16,960 --> 05:00:17,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Please proceed. 4170 05:00:19,960 --> 05:00:24,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, good evening. 4171 05:00:24,280 --> 05:00:33,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And will the sponsor be open to answer a few questions in relation to the budget 4172 05:00:33,240 --> 05:00:36,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the policies of Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority? 4173 05:00:37,440 --> 05:00:38,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, gladly, Madam Speaker. 4174 05:00:39,140 --> 05:00:46,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we note that under the watch of the current administration, 4175 05:00:47,180 --> 05:00:53,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SBMA has allowed 234 containers of suspected e-waste from the United States 4176 05:00:53,760 --> 05:00:54,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to enter Subic Bay. 4177 05:00:54,280 --> 05:00:56,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Since March 2025. 4178 05:00:57,160 --> 05:01:03,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And another 184 containers almost arrived between August and September 2026, 4179 05:01:04,120 --> 05:01:08,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: all without the prior informed consent required by the Basel Convention. 4180 05:01:08,860 --> 05:01:12,340 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa ilalim po ng Basel Convention, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, 4181 05:01:12,460 --> 05:01:16,880 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng e-waste amendment na pumasok sa bisa noong Enero 2025, 4182 05:01:17,820 --> 05:01:23,200 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: halos lahat ng e-waste, hazardous man o hindi, ay kontrolado ng konbensyon. 4183 05:01:24,100 --> 05:01:27,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Malinaw sa probisyon ng Article 4, subsection 5, 4184 05:01:28,580 --> 05:01:34,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nagbabawal sa kalakalan ng basura sa isang non-party tulad ng United States. 4185 05:01:35,240 --> 05:01:41,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In fact, kung meron pong trade or export galing OECD countries, EU countries, 4186 05:01:41,320 --> 05:01:47,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or Liechtenstein, dapat limited lang sa kanila at hindi po sa labas nito mangyari. 4187 05:01:48,080 --> 05:01:54,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, there's been export of e-waste from the United States imported to the Philippines. 4188 05:01:54,280 --> 05:02:02,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Wala rin pong anumang bilateral agreement na nagpapahintulot ng importasyon ng e-waste mula sa US papunta sa Pilipinas. 4189 05:02:02,380 --> 05:02:05,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This is confirmed by the Department of Foreign Affairs. 4190 05:02:05,600 --> 05:02:12,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang umiira lamang nakasunduan ay para sa exports ng ating bansa papunta sa US, and not the other way around. 4191 05:02:13,820 --> 05:02:18,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We have heard preliminarily some defenses of SBMA, 4192 05:02:18,180 --> 05:02:22,240 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and this is also what is provided in an RTC ruling, 4193 05:02:23,120 --> 05:02:23,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which allowed... 4194 05:02:24,280 --> 05:02:29,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the activities of such trade in SBMA. 4195 05:02:29,740 --> 05:02:32,480 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, my question is, 4196 05:02:33,000 --> 05:02:40,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does being a separate customs territory as provided in law enable SBMA to circumvent, 4197 05:02:40,560 --> 05:02:45,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or essentially not follow, ratified international treaties and agreements? 4198 05:02:54,280 --> 05:03:07,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the SBMA confirms the importation of scrapped mixed metals, computer accessories, used meter, used electronics, and scrapped copper. 4199 05:03:08,160 --> 05:03:14,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, these importations, as per the SBMA, adhere to international treaties. 4200 05:03:15,180 --> 05:03:15,640 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 4201 05:03:16,300 --> 05:03:22,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ano pong reaction ng SBMA na... 4202 05:03:22,640 --> 05:03:31,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na under the Convention, and even under the implementing DNR Department Order, 4203 05:03:31,260 --> 05:03:42,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wala naman pong pagbubukod ng e-waste, na ito po ay separate or hindi considered as hazardous wastes. 4204 05:03:42,760 --> 05:03:51,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hazardous wastes po siya na nililimitahan yung import-export regulation trade po nito ng Basel Convention, 4205 05:03:51,640 --> 05:03:52,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which... 4206 05:03:52,180 --> 05:04:02,680 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which explicitly provides, hindi po pwedeng magkaroon ng export from a non-party to a state party. 4207 05:04:10,440 --> 05:04:11,030 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ... 4208 05:04:21,080 --> 05:04:21,920 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: What does the 4209 05:04:21,920 --> 05:04:22,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: sponsor say? 4210 05:04:28,120 --> 05:04:31,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 4211 05:04:32,320 --> 05:04:41,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: SBMA still confirms that all importations of scrapped mixed metals are not hazardous. 4212 05:04:41,940 --> 05:04:44,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These are... 4213 05:04:44,120 --> 05:04:50,720 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These all adhere to all environmental regulations. 4214 05:04:52,140 --> 05:05:06,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, the Basel Action Network, which maintains and checks the compliance of states with the Basel Convention, 4215 05:05:06,120 --> 05:05:18,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: found in its field investigations in both the U.S. and the Philippines, that these containers that arrived at the Subic Port from the United States, 4216 05:05:18,440 --> 05:05:22,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: both contain hazardous electronic waste, classified as... 4217 05:05:22,140 --> 05:05:28,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A-1181, and e-waste, requiring special consideration or Code 949. 4218 05:05:28,760 --> 05:05:34,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: These are Basel waste listings, illegal to be imported into the Philippines from the U.S. 4219 05:05:35,320 --> 05:05:38,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: due to the fact, again, that the U.S. is a non-party to the Convention. 4220 05:05:38,740 --> 05:05:50,580 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, what is the explanation behind the assertion that there is following of international treaty, 4221 05:05:51,020 --> 05:05:51,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given the... 4222 05:05:52,140 --> 05:05:55,140 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the citation of this representation right now? 4223 05:05:57,560 --> 05:05:59,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 4224 05:05:59,600 --> 05:06:05,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the SBMA is willing to cooperate and to also submit to our Distinguished Colleague, 4225 05:06:06,160 --> 05:06:14,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: supporting documents that say that these materials are not hazardous, 4226 05:06:15,180 --> 05:06:20,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: just to establish that it also complies with all environmental compliances, 4227 05:06:20,960 --> 05:06:22,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as well as international. 4228 05:06:22,140 --> 05:06:25,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, we will welcome these submissions. 4229 05:06:26,620 --> 05:06:30,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But I'd like an explanation on the floor right now. 4230 05:06:31,480 --> 05:06:37,900 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano po yung basihan kung bakit nasasabi, kahit succinctly po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, 4231 05:06:38,480 --> 05:06:41,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bakit po hindi iligal yung kalakala na ito? 4232 05:06:41,940 --> 05:06:44,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano ang basihan kung bakit hindi po iligal ito? 4233 05:06:45,020 --> 05:06:50,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We have heard the RTC ruling, which says nga po na separate customs territory ang SBMA. 4234 05:06:51,060 --> 05:06:51,960 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But I believe... 4235 05:06:52,140 --> 05:06:53,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, 4236 05:06:53,380 --> 05:06:56,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that doesn't mean that they are exempted from the Basel Convention, 4237 05:06:56,940 --> 05:07:00,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the DNR Department Order implementing it, 4238 05:07:00,480 --> 05:07:06,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even other prevailing international laws and domestic regulations. 4239 05:07:06,640 --> 05:07:09,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, we will look forward to that. 4240 05:07:09,700 --> 05:07:12,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But ano po on the floor, succinctly, ang rason? 4241 05:07:13,020 --> 05:07:16,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, just for the record also, 4242 05:07:16,680 --> 05:07:20,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's because the materials are not hazardous waste. 4243 05:07:20,740 --> 05:07:21,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, if I may... 4244 05:07:22,140 --> 05:07:23,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Again, repeat. 4245 05:07:24,340 --> 05:07:29,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These importations are scrap mixed metals, computer accessories, 4246 05:07:30,780 --> 05:07:35,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: used meters, used electronics, and scrap copper, which are not hazardous. 4247 05:07:36,140 --> 05:07:41,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, SBMA reiterates that these are not hazardous waste. 4248 05:07:42,080 --> 05:07:47,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And so, the importation of such materials are not violated, 4249 05:07:47,520 --> 05:07:51,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or doesn't violate international treaties and the Basel Convention as well. 4250 05:07:52,140 --> 05:08:01,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Under what legal basis can the SBMA provide now to say that they are not hazardous waste? 4251 05:08:01,080 --> 05:08:03,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this internal assessment? 4252 05:08:03,760 --> 05:08:13,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this a different citation which they can state where it is classified differently 4253 05:08:13,980 --> 05:08:22,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because the prevailing rules as of now lists the containers as hazardous electronic wastes and e-waste, 4254 05:08:22,140 --> 05:08:23,780 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is requiring special consideration? 4255 05:08:32,180 --> 05:08:43,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, as for the SBMA, these materials are all inspected from importation. 4256 05:08:44,160 --> 05:08:46,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Inspected by whom, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor. 4257 05:08:46,940 --> 05:08:47,500 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sorry. 4258 05:08:47,780 --> 05:08:48,720 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Inspected by whom? 4259 05:08:49,540 --> 05:08:50,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: By the SBMA, Madam Speaker. 4260 05:08:51,260 --> 05:08:51,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is the... 4261 05:08:51,980 --> 05:08:55,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The Bureau of Customs and DNR involved in the inspections, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor. 4262 05:08:56,360 --> 05:08:57,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 4263 05:08:57,740 --> 05:08:58,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor. 4264 05:08:58,840 --> 05:09:10,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For now, there is no legal basis that has been cited other than the assurance that SBMA inspected them. 4265 05:09:10,820 --> 05:09:14,740 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, given the limited time that I have, 4266 05:09:15,200 --> 05:09:21,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: let it be stated on the record that to the question and to the... 4267 05:09:21,980 --> 05:09:26,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legal basis that this representation cited, there has been no counter-legal basis provided. 4268 05:09:27,000 --> 05:09:35,700 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, my next line of question would be regarding the position of SBMA 4269 05:09:35,700 --> 05:09:44,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to a Committee on Ecology meeting I had the opportunity to attend on March 11, 2026, 4270 05:09:44,840 --> 05:09:51,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where our topic is hazardous waste management and strengthening the Environmental Management Bureau. 4271 05:09:51,380 --> 05:10:01,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We talked about the possible amendment of the Toxic and Hazardous Wastes Act present and prevailing in our jurisprudence now. 4272 05:10:02,140 --> 05:10:12,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SBMA was in attendance and it gave the position that they are pushing for the designation of free trade zones such as SUBIC 4273 05:10:12,180 --> 05:10:15,600 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to become Basel Convention Free Zones. 4274 05:10:16,640 --> 05:10:21,220 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano pong ibig sabihin ng SBMA nung sinabi niya na gustong maging Basel Convention Free Zone 4275 05:10:22,660 --> 05:10:24,060 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang Subic Freeport? 4276 05:10:25,900 --> 05:10:32,660 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And is the agency asking for an exception from international treaties and our local environmental laws? 4277 05:10:43,140 --> 05:10:51,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the reason cited by the SBMA is some locators would want to 4278 05:10:51,400 --> 05:11:06,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: expand their operations to include imports from the United States, and because the United States is not a signatory of the Basel Convention, that is the basis for the statement of the SBMA. 4279 05:11:06,900 --> 05:11:51,300 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, I think desiring trade with the United States is not a heavy enough justification to look for an exception from a prevailing international treaty that seeks to protect the Philippines from the transboundary waste trade disproportionately affecting Southeast Asian countries, to the point that there has to be a call from Southeast Asian countries that [unclear] not the 4280 05:11:51,300 --> 05:12:21,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dumping ground or trash can of developed countries. But at the end of the day, it will remove us from protections already in place, not just in discussion with the US but also with other countries that may seek to do trade. 4281 05:12:21,800 --> 05:12:30,100 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we will ask instead for a written explanation for that comment given in the March 11, 2026 hearing. 4282 05:12:30,700 --> 05:12:38,000 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, magkano po ba ang kinikita ng SBMA mula sa kalakalan ng recyclable waste? 4283 05:12:41,060 --> 05:12:45,120 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How much, I assume, of course, may kita ang ating mga locators dyan. 4284 05:12:45,400 --> 05:12:48,440 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How much of it goes to SBMA, Madam Speaker, good sponsor? 4285 05:13:19,300 --> 05:13:42,320 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: [unclear] If the distinguished colleague will be willing to allow our distinguished sponsor and the SBMA family to submit a written report. 4286 05:13:50,700 --> 05:14:04,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay, for payments of recyclers, as per SBMA data, it's around 200, sorry, 205 million pesos, Madam Speaker. 4287 05:14:05,300 --> 05:14:10,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 205,864,939 pesos for 2025. 4288 05:14:12,780 --> 05:14:20,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, in the interest of time, we will also be requesting the same to be submitted via a written report. 4289 05:14:21,320 --> 05:14:32,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: As well as details on how much private recycling facilities yield in profit, alongside how much that would go to SBMA. 4290 05:14:32,700 --> 05:14:35,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be in relation to its budget. 4291 05:14:36,260 --> 05:14:45,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SBMA's proposed 500 million subsidy is for ecozone infrastructure, but the NEP also records 1 billion in unreleased 2025 appropriations. 4292 05:14:46,560 --> 05:14:50,040 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Has that amount now been released, Madam Speaker? We'd like to seek a clarification. 4293 05:14:50,040 --> 05:14:53,560 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Which brought, maybe that, Madam Speaker? 4294 05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:07,500 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It hasn't been released yet, Madam Speaker. 4295 05:15:07,840 --> 05:15:10,460 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It has not yet been released, Madam Speaker. 4296 05:15:10,660 --> 05:15:18,820 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We also just ask to submit by report which projects are affected because of its non-release yet 4297 05:15:18,820 --> 05:15:24,080 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and what must be resolved before they can proceed, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 4298 05:15:24,280 --> 05:15:25,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As we will comply, Madam Speaker. 4299 05:15:25,380 --> 05:15:32,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be in relation to the joint efforts of the BOC, the DENREMB, and SBMA, 4300 05:15:32,900 --> 05:15:34,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as stated and referenced earlier. 4301 05:15:35,080 --> 05:15:39,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We saw that in July 1 of this year, they publicly posted that they conducted a joint inspection 4302 05:15:39,940 --> 05:15:42,760 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on several recycling locators in Subic. 4303 05:15:43,100 --> 05:15:47,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can this representation be furnished with a copy of this report, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor? 4304 05:15:48,140 --> 05:15:49,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we will comply, Madam Speaker. 4305 05:15:50,980 --> 05:15:54,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, if ma, masama po sana, 4306 05:15:54,640 --> 05:15:54,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ilan ang... 4307 05:15:55,380 --> 05:15:59,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: di lang ng mga nag-ooperate ng mga recycling locators doon 4308 05:15:59,840 --> 05:16:07,180 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because when we asked DENREMB yesterday, wala raw po silang data on the recycling facilities in Subic. 4309 05:16:07,540 --> 05:16:13,860 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And so, the appropriate agency to ask would be the one... 4310 05:16:13,860 --> 05:16:15,640 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SBMA, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor. 4311 05:16:15,800 --> 05:16:16,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 4312 05:16:16,860 --> 05:16:23,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We'll also give our distinguished colleague a copy, but there are, as of now, 14 active locators, 18 total. 4313 05:16:23,320 --> 05:16:24,260 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 14, 1-4? 4314 05:16:24,420 --> 05:16:25,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 1-4, yes. 4315 05:16:25,380 --> 05:16:25,940 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 14, Madam Speaker. 4316 05:16:25,960 --> 05:16:27,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We will submit the list, Madam Speaker. 4317 05:16:27,900 --> 05:16:28,320 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you. 4318 05:16:28,560 --> 05:16:36,420 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And my last line of questioning, Madam Speaker, this would be in relation to the public pronouncements of SBMA 4319 05:16:36,420 --> 05:16:37,980 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to Paxilica. 4320 05:16:37,980 --> 05:16:48,520 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We have seen that sa pinirmahan na MOU ng SBMA at BCDA, may pagbubukas na gagamitin ng Subic Bayport 4321 05:16:48,520 --> 05:16:52,160 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bilang quote-unquote maritime gateway ng Paxilica. 4322 05:16:52,380 --> 05:16:54,920 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maari po bang malaman ang extent nito? 4323 05:17:03,930 --> 05:17:09,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I believe that was the last question of our distinguished colleague. 4324 05:17:10,400 --> 05:17:17,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: And after the sponsor response, may we request our distinguished colleague from Kabataan Party List to wrap up. 4325 05:17:17,720 --> 05:17:19,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Madam Speaker, it will be my last question. 4326 05:17:19,840 --> 05:17:24,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I just like to note that according to the press release, the port will serve DAO. 4327 05:17:25,380 --> 05:17:29,400 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It's a critical gateway enabling the efficient movement of raw materials into the country 4328 05:17:29,400 --> 05:17:32,280 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and timely delivery of finished products to customers. 4329 05:17:32,460 --> 05:17:35,380 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So we'd like clarification sa extent nito, Madam Speaker. 4330 05:17:35,480 --> 05:17:35,840 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. 4331 05:17:36,400 --> 05:17:37,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 4332 05:17:37,680 --> 05:17:39,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is a non-binding agreement. 4333 05:17:39,880 --> 05:17:42,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a MOU between BCDA and SBMA. 4334 05:17:43,400 --> 05:17:53,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So it's just restricted to the use of Port of Subic, the limited use of Port of Subic for the maritime logistics requirements of the proposed project. 4335 05:17:54,260 --> 05:17:55,360 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, a copy of this MOU. 4336 05:17:55,380 --> 05:17:57,540 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A copy of this MOU would also be requested, Madam Speaker. 4337 05:17:57,640 --> 05:17:58,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor. 4338 05:17:58,120 --> 05:17:59,020 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I have no further questions. 4339 05:17:59,280 --> 05:18:00,800 Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for your time and for the clarification. 4340 05:18:01,020 --> 05:18:01,640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 4341 05:18:02,280 --> 05:18:02,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ... 4342 05:18:04,500 --> 05:18:08,600 Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Antonio Tino for his interpellation. 4343 05:18:08,720 --> 05:18:10,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Antonio Tino is recognized. 4344 05:18:25,380 --> 05:18:28,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Speaker. 4345 05:18:29,260 --> 05:18:34,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilang mga tanong po sa sponsor natin. 4346 05:18:35,860 --> 05:18:42,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, I'll ask the sponsor to explain. 4347 05:18:43,060 --> 05:18:50,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ba ang ambag ng SBMA sa ekonomiya ng Pilipinas? 4348 05:18:50,960 --> 05:18:51,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mahalaga ba? 4349 05:18:52,600 --> 05:18:53,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Malaki ba? 4350 05:18:54,260 --> 05:18:54,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Malaki. 4351 05:18:55,380 --> 05:19:02,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, briefly, as of now, there are 1,783 locators. 4352 05:19:02,600 --> 05:19:09,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang ini-employ po ang may trabaho dahil sa SBMA ay 174,930 na tao. 4353 05:19:10,280 --> 05:19:16,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang total investment na nakuha na ng SBMA ay 610 billion pesos. 4354 05:19:18,600 --> 05:19:24,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tapos ang nabigay na sa Pambansang Pamalaan through dividends is 12.15. 4355 05:19:25,380 --> 05:19:27,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 12.15 billion pesos, Madam Speaker. 4356 05:19:28,820 --> 05:19:31,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, 12.15 billion pesos ang nabigay. 4357 05:19:31,580 --> 05:19:34,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyan po ba para sa isang taon? 4358 05:19:34,320 --> 05:19:35,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Which year was that? 4359 05:19:35,620 --> 05:19:36,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Could you just clarify? 4360 05:19:36,980 --> 05:19:38,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mula 1999, Madam Speaker. 4361 05:19:38,560 --> 05:19:39,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mula 1999. 4362 05:19:40,280 --> 05:19:40,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4363 05:19:40,520 --> 05:19:46,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, okay, 174,000 plus ang employed. 4364 05:19:47,020 --> 05:19:49,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And you mentioned over 1,000 locators. 4365 05:19:49,460 --> 05:19:50,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilan po yung locators? 4366 05:19:50,620 --> 05:19:52,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 1,783. 4367 05:19:52,760 --> 05:19:53,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As of June. 4368 05:19:53,560 --> 05:19:54,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,783 locators. 4369 05:19:55,380 --> 05:19:58,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, iba't-ibang mga negosyo. 4370 05:19:59,180 --> 05:20:00,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mga foreign investor po ba ito? 4371 05:20:01,840 --> 05:20:02,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O hindi lahat? 4372 05:20:03,360 --> 05:20:04,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Foreign and domestic po, mix po. 4373 05:20:04,980 --> 05:20:07,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Foreign and domestic investors. 4374 05:20:08,760 --> 05:20:10,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in terms of... 4375 05:20:12,980 --> 05:20:15,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? May mga information din tayo rito. 4376 05:20:15,500 --> 05:20:16,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How big is the zone? 4377 05:20:16,780 --> 05:20:17,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is it... 4378 05:20:17,540 --> 05:20:18,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How big is the zone? 4379 05:20:21,680 --> 05:20:23,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 60,000 square kilometers, Madam Speaker. 4380 05:20:23,900 --> 05:20:24,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Square? 4381 05:20:25,380 --> 05:20:29,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sixty-seven square, siguro, hektars po. 4382 05:20:29,680 --> 05:20:32,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sixty thousand square meters. 4383 05:20:32,680 --> 05:20:33,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ilan yun yung hektars? 4384 05:20:33,940 --> 05:20:34,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hektars siguro. 4385 05:20:34,980 --> 05:20:36,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hektars. 4386 05:20:36,080 --> 05:20:37,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi naman po square kilometers. 4387 05:20:37,680 --> 05:20:39,680 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sixty-seven thousand hektars. 4388 05:20:39,680 --> 05:20:41,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sixty-seven thousand hektars. 4389 05:20:41,880 --> 05:20:47,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And is it correct there are 15 operational piers and wharves? 4390 05:20:48,060 --> 05:20:51,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi subik harbor yan, di ba? 4391 05:20:52,260 --> 05:20:54,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mainly port, it used to be. 4392 05:20:54,700 --> 05:20:55,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam naman natin. 4393 05:20:55,220 --> 05:20:56,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: A naval base, di ba? 4394 05:20:57,180 --> 05:20:57,400 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 4395 05:20:57,440 --> 05:20:58,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, is that correct? 4396 05:20:58,300 --> 05:21:01,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There are 15 operational piers and wharves? 4397 05:21:01,760 --> 05:21:03,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, we confirm. 4398 05:21:03,460 --> 05:21:03,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4399 05:21:05,500 --> 05:21:06,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Container throughput. 4400 05:21:06,760 --> 05:21:08,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, may mga info po tayong nakuha. 4401 05:21:08,420 --> 05:21:10,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung container, shipping container. 4402 05:21:11,500 --> 05:21:14,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi po rito, latest figure 2024. 4403 05:21:15,500 --> 05:21:17,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Roughly 600,000 TEU. 4404 05:21:19,500 --> 05:21:24,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, parang container, yun yung standard measure ng container size, di ba? 4405 05:21:25,220 --> 05:21:25,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 4406 05:21:25,980 --> 05:21:27,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that more or less correct? 4407 05:21:28,220 --> 05:21:30,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon, yung shipping na dumadaan dyan? 4408 05:21:31,160 --> 05:21:33,780 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, total capacity is 600,000, Madam Speaker. 4409 05:21:34,100 --> 05:21:34,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4410 05:21:35,600 --> 05:21:44,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At in terms of GDP, meron ba kayong figure sa ambag ng subik sa GDP, kumbaga, ng Pilipinas? 4411 05:21:50,980 --> 05:21:55,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Meron lang po tayo for, ano, well, overall contribution to the national economy. 4412 05:21:55,220 --> 05:22:12,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, for 2020, isa sabi dito po yung collections from the Bureau of Customs, yung mga taxes po na binabayaran sa BIR, yung dividends po na babayaran sa national government, tapos sa LGU share. 4413 05:22:12,860 --> 05:22:18,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, 2025 po, 53.1 billion pesos. 4414 05:22:19,120 --> 05:22:24,440 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Consistent po na over 50 billion since 2022, per year, na nabibigay po ng SBMA. 4415 05:22:24,440 --> 05:22:25,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Consistent po na. 4416 05:22:25,220 --> 05:22:28,700 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Over 50 billion po ang naibibigay ng SBMA. 4417 05:22:28,700 --> 05:22:33,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Consistently, over 50 billion ang nabibigay ng subik ng SBMA. Tama po ba? 4418 05:22:34,100 --> 05:22:34,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Apo. 4419 05:22:34,480 --> 05:22:44,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa national government. So, safe to say, napakahalaga po nito, hindi lang sa regional economy ng Region 3, kundi national economy. Tama po ba? 4420 05:22:44,800 --> 05:22:45,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Apo, Madam Speaker. 4421 05:22:45,600 --> 05:22:46,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama. Okay. 4422 05:22:47,260 --> 05:22:50,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kanina, pinanong natin sa BCDA, 4423 05:22:53,180 --> 05:22:53,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinonfirm nila. 4424 05:22:53,960 --> 05:23:08,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gusto ko rin marinig sa inyo, nagkaroon po ng MOU sa pagitan ng BCDA at SBMA designating the port of subik as the primary entry and exit point for logistics, etc. under Paxilica. Correct? 4425 05:23:09,420 --> 05:23:10,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun? 4426 05:23:10,280 --> 05:23:10,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 4427 05:23:11,320 --> 05:23:17,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, in other words, involved din po sa Paxilica ang subik. Tama po? 4428 05:23:18,920 --> 05:23:21,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. As a port. 4429 05:23:21,260 --> 05:23:23,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As the port. Parang dito yung main na... 4430 05:23:23,960 --> 05:23:33,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Entry and exit point. Dalu yan ng mga investment, produkto, and so on. Including, for example, energy. Parang ganun po yung narinig natin. 4431 05:23:35,420 --> 05:23:45,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, as per the MOU, binasignate lang po ang port of subik as yung gateway for the maritime logistics requirements. 4432 05:23:45,460 --> 05:23:53,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Sige. Okay. Now, yung subik, hindi po yan EDCA site, hindi po ba? 4433 05:23:53,960 --> 05:23:55,340 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Hindi po, Madam Speaker. 4434 05:23:57,340 --> 05:24:11,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And necessarily, hindi siya EDCA site kasi yung mga approved locations under the EDCA agreement, they have to be properties provided by the AFP and DND, mga military locations. So, subik, hindi. Tama? 4435 05:24:12,100 --> 05:24:12,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Hindi po, Madam Speaker. 4436 05:24:12,740 --> 05:24:21,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nevertheless, tama rin po ba na malaganap ang gamit ng US military sa subik? Is that correct? 4437 05:24:23,960 --> 05:24:25,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 4438 05:24:25,960 --> 05:24:27,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4439 05:24:39,960 --> 05:24:43,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naku, yung oras tumutuloy, Madam Speaker. So, i-consider nyo na lang yan. 4440 05:24:43,200 --> 05:24:53,560 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: If our distinguished colleague is amenable, the SBMA family can actually furnish your office to our good sponsor, a written response to your queries. 4441 05:24:53,960 --> 05:25:00,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. That would be great, Madam Speaker. But I think the sponsor is also ready to give a response. 4442 05:25:00,820 --> 05:25:10,080 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. The SBMA confirms that there are economic activities that involve American firms, American actors. 4443 05:25:10,400 --> 05:25:13,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: American firms servicing the US military. Correct? 4444 05:25:14,620 --> 05:25:15,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Yes, Madam Speaker. 4445 05:25:15,740 --> 05:25:23,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, let me cite, ito based on mga open source research, diba? Subik Dry Dock Corporation. Tama po ba? 4446 05:25:23,960 --> 05:25:24,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 4447 05:25:24,960 --> 05:25:31,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ginagawa nila, repair and overhaul of US Navy vessels. Correct? 4448 05:25:32,560 --> 05:25:33,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 4449 05:25:33,660 --> 05:25:48,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. The PCSPC fuel terminal, yung pinakamalaking fuel depot sa buong bansa, in fact, that is owned by an American equity firm, I-squared Capital. 4450 05:25:48,220 --> 05:25:49,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 4451 05:25:49,420 --> 05:25:53,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, hindi po ba, among others, it stores fuel... 4452 05:25:53,960 --> 05:26:06,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It stores fuel for exclusive use of the US Navy. Tama po ba? Among others, hindi lahat. Hindi lahat. Pero merong fuel na ginagamit ng US Navy. 4453 05:26:06,460 --> 05:26:07,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Non-exclusive, Madam Speaker. 4454 05:26:07,840 --> 05:26:11,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Not exclusive. Pero meron. Tama po. Correct? 4455 05:26:11,520 --> 05:26:12,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 4456 05:26:12,020 --> 05:26:19,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Alam ko, yung recently, yung PNOC, bumili ng diesel, tapos nilagay din dyan. Tama po ba? 4457 05:26:19,460 --> 05:26:20,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct. 4458 05:26:23,960 --> 05:26:33,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Strategic Oil Reserve or Fuel Reserve ay nandyan, katabi nung fuel ng US Navy. Tama po? 4459 05:26:34,560 --> 05:26:34,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Opo. 4460 05:26:34,760 --> 05:26:35,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama. Okay. 4461 05:26:37,380 --> 05:26:53,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: February 2025, US Marine Corps Repositioning Warehouse. This is a 5,300 square meter facility used to store vehicle communications assets, engineering assets. Correct? 4462 05:26:53,960 --> 05:26:56,300 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker. 4463 05:26:56,300 --> 05:27:01,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct. So yung US Marine Corps, meron silang storage facility dyan. 4464 05:27:04,020 --> 05:27:11,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Army staging. Aguila, Subic. Processing and storage of US Army equipment. 4465 05:27:13,380 --> 05:27:23,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? Ito, yung Aguila facility sa Subic, ginagamit ng US Army naman ito. 4466 05:27:23,960 --> 05:27:25,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa, Marine Corps. Ito naman, Army. 4467 05:27:27,440 --> 05:27:36,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the contractor for that is an American logistics contractor for the U.S. military known as V2X. 4468 05:27:38,300 --> 05:27:42,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po, V2X. Alam po niyan ni Chairman. 4469 05:27:42,700 --> 05:27:48,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. V2X is a defense contractor for logistics ng U.S. military. 4470 05:27:49,360 --> 05:27:50,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ginagamit nila yan. 4471 05:27:50,500 --> 05:28:05,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun, part of Subic Bay, ginagamit routinely for maintenance ng mga U.S. Navy ships including submarines. 4472 05:28:07,080 --> 05:28:12,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba, yung mga Ohio-class nuclear submarines ng U.S. ay nandyan. 4473 05:28:13,480 --> 05:28:18,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dumadaong dyan, nagpapaayos, nagpaparefuel, and so on and so forth. 4474 05:28:18,600 --> 05:28:36,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The most recent incident being a U.S. destroyer that was recently stranded for four days in the South China Sea. 4475 05:28:37,300 --> 05:28:42,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos nawala ng kuryente. Tapos dinala sa Subic. Tama po ba? 4476 05:28:45,580 --> 05:28:47,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker. 4477 05:28:47,220 --> 05:28:48,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct? 4478 05:28:48,600 --> 05:28:50,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker. 4479 05:28:50,280 --> 05:28:52,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You confirm, no? Okay. 4480 05:28:53,460 --> 05:28:58,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malinaw po, as I said, extensively used by the U.S. military ang Subic. 4481 05:28:59,300 --> 05:29:08,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, mas ginagamit pa po ito ng U.S. military kesa sa mga EDCA locations, yung approved locations. 4482 05:29:08,180 --> 05:29:08,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 4483 05:29:10,880 --> 05:29:12,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O hindi n?yo na, hindi n?yo na... 4484 05:29:12,580 --> 05:29:16,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi na sa inyo manggagaling. Ako na nagsasabi na ito talaga yung main... 4485 05:29:18,600 --> 05:29:25,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Entry and exit point, storage point, logistics hub ng U.S. military dito sa Pilipinas. 4486 05:29:26,020 --> 05:29:30,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lalo na pagbalikatan. At saka yung ibang mga exercises. So, napakalinaw po nun. 4487 05:29:30,780 --> 05:29:40,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. At the same time, sinabi natin kanina, this is the main economic engine in Luzon. 4488 05:29:41,200 --> 05:29:45,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in much of... and in the larger Filipino economy, correct? 4489 05:29:46,240 --> 05:29:46,560 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. 4490 05:29:46,560 --> 05:29:47,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. Okay. 4491 05:29:47,780 --> 05:29:51,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ngayon, ito po ang isang concern natin dito, no? 4492 05:29:54,260 --> 05:30:00,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang nangyari sa Iran war, particularly sa Gulf State? 4493 05:30:00,900 --> 05:30:01,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 4494 05:30:03,060 --> 05:30:05,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po, meron tayong visual na naman yata. 4495 05:30:09,280 --> 05:30:18,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, it is well known that during this ongoing, di pa po tapos na gera sa Iran, 4496 05:30:18,900 --> 05:30:27,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course, sinalakay ng US ang Iran way back end of February, beginning of March, 4497 05:30:27,280 --> 05:30:33,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hanggang ngayon nagpapatuloy, nagdulot ng krisis na energy crisis. 4498 05:30:33,160 --> 05:30:37,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We are still under a state of energy emergency, di ba? 4499 05:30:37,920 --> 05:30:40,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Because of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. 4500 05:30:40,940 --> 05:30:47,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ang isang nangyari po ay tinarget, in response, tinarget ng Iran 4501 05:30:47,380 --> 05:30:55,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: using their missile and drone capability, advanced missile and drone capability, 4502 05:30:55,700 --> 05:30:57,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: drone and missile capability. 4503 05:30:57,280 --> 05:31:02,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una, US bases throughout the Gulf. 4504 05:31:02,980 --> 05:31:10,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, nawasak yung main naval base ng 5th Fleet ng US sa Bahrain. 4505 05:31:11,740 --> 05:31:21,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nga namu-problema ang US Navy ngayon dahil wala na silang main base logistics hub and so on in the Gulf. 4506 05:31:22,120 --> 05:31:27,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, wasak po yung base, umatras ang US na palayas, in other words, ng Iran. 4507 05:31:27,280 --> 05:31:31,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kanilang mga base militar, ang US. 4508 05:31:31,840 --> 05:31:35,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero hindi lang po military targets ang tinarget ng Iran. 4509 05:31:36,680 --> 05:31:43,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tinarget din po nila extensively ang mga dual-use targets. 4510 05:31:44,020 --> 05:31:47,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, civilian facilities na may ginagamit din ng US military. 4511 05:31:48,800 --> 05:31:50,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example, 4512 05:31:50,400 --> 05:31:52,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um, 4513 05:31:53,780 --> 05:31:58,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: according to our research, 4514 05:31:58,840 --> 05:31:59,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Iran, 4515 05:31:59,440 --> 05:31:59,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iran, 4516 05:32:00,400 --> 05:32:04,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and its Iran-aligned groups, 4517 05:32:04,680 --> 05:32:06,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for example, yung the Houthis in Yemen, 4518 05:32:07,380 --> 05:32:12,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: conducted at least 172 attacks on non-military infrastructure 4519 05:32:12,520 --> 05:32:16,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: across the six Gulf Cooperation Council states. 4520 05:32:17,540 --> 05:32:19,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 172 attacks. 4521 05:32:19,680 --> 05:32:20,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong mga tinarget? 4522 05:32:21,300 --> 05:32:22,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Energy facilities. 4523 05:32:22,780 --> 05:32:33,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oil, gas, power, desalination facilities, airports and ports, yung Kuwait Airport, ay tinarget yan kasi ginagamit ng US military. 4524 05:32:34,880 --> 05:32:42,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Commercial, mga industrial facilities, financial facilities, government facilities, data centers, for example. 4525 05:32:42,180 --> 05:32:52,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito yung isang recent news report, sabi dito, ay Iran strikes on Amazon data centers. 4526 05:32:52,780 --> 05:32:58,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are Amazon data centers in the United Arab Emirates mainly, no? 4527 05:32:59,840 --> 05:33:02,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: UAE and Bahrain. 4528 05:33:03,600 --> 05:33:04,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tinarget din po. 4529 05:33:04,660 --> 05:33:09,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi ng Iran, basta ginagamit ng US, no? 4530 05:33:09,800 --> 05:33:17,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whether yung explicitly military or, in this case, data centers. 4531 05:33:17,800 --> 05:33:21,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi AI, ginagamit yan ng US military. 4532 05:33:21,500 --> 05:33:23,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So tinarget din nila. 4533 05:33:24,100 --> 05:33:33,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And they very precisely targeted the data centers of Amazon in Bahrain as well as in the UAE. 4534 05:33:34,100 --> 05:33:35,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dalawang areas, no? 4535 05:33:36,500 --> 05:33:42,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the damage was so extensive na, sabi rito, caused permanent data loss. 4536 05:33:43,100 --> 05:33:49,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na yung mga data center, yung mga malalaking korporasyon, they upload all their data on the cloud, di ba? 4537 05:33:49,300 --> 05:33:51,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: To Amazon. 4538 05:33:52,120 --> 05:33:52,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa sa pinakalimutan. 4539 05:33:52,780 --> 05:34:00,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinaka-trusted, pinaka-malaki na cloud service along with Google and Microsoft, yung Azure. 4540 05:34:01,980 --> 05:34:09,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in the case of Amazon, nawasak yung data center sa Bahrain, nawasak din yung sa UAE, nawala na yung backup. 4541 05:34:09,560 --> 05:34:15,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Even though, isa sa mga pinagmamalaki ng Amazon, redundancy, siyempre, di ba? 4542 05:34:15,980 --> 05:34:18,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag nasira yung isa dyan, meron kang backup. 4543 05:34:18,180 --> 05:34:19,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dito po, wasak po lahat. 4544 05:34:19,760 --> 05:34:20,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala ng backup. 4545 05:34:20,340 --> 05:34:22,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that means... 4546 05:34:22,780 --> 05:34:26,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Significant damage, not just to the infrastructure, business damage, di ba? 4547 05:34:26,960 --> 05:34:32,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nawala na yung data ng mga kliyente, nung Amazon. 4548 05:34:32,600 --> 05:34:36,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yan ang sinasabi dyan sa artikulo na yan. 4549 05:34:36,860 --> 05:34:38,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, that's just one example. 4550 05:34:39,040 --> 05:34:48,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, other major attacks are on Kuwait, for example, yung kanilang natural gas facility. 4551 05:34:49,500 --> 05:34:51,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Very precisely targeted. 4552 05:34:51,340 --> 05:34:51,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nga po, matindihan. 4553 05:34:52,780 --> 05:34:56,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, ang problema sa supply ng natural gas, among others. 4554 05:34:57,080 --> 05:35:00,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: If our distinguished colleague can please... 4555 05:35:00,520 --> 05:35:03,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sixteen minutes pa lang po, Madam Speaker. 4556 05:35:03,180 --> 05:35:06,740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I thought you were going to reserve your energy for DOST. 4557 05:35:06,740 --> 05:35:09,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, well, don't worry, Madam Speaker. 4558 05:35:10,340 --> 05:35:11,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya pa natin, di ba? 4559 05:35:12,000 --> 05:35:13,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so ano lang ang point? 4560 05:35:14,160 --> 05:35:15,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, malinaw po. 4561 05:35:16,340 --> 05:35:22,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In times of war, even the international laws of war, 4562 05:35:22,780 --> 05:35:23,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: allow that, no? 4563 05:35:23,680 --> 05:35:25,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagka yung facility, dual use, 4564 05:35:26,440 --> 05:35:29,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagamit for civilian as well as military purposes. 4565 05:35:29,480 --> 05:35:30,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Legitimate target. 4566 05:35:31,760 --> 05:35:31,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 4567 05:35:32,460 --> 05:35:33,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, wasak! 4568 05:35:34,360 --> 05:35:38,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napakalaki ng economic damage to the Gulf states, 4569 05:35:38,940 --> 05:35:40,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the economies of the Gulf states. 4570 05:35:40,580 --> 05:35:43,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And remember, mga mayayamang bansa ito, 4571 05:35:43,460 --> 05:35:45,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain. 4572 05:35:47,300 --> 05:35:48,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Also remember, 4573 05:35:48,120 --> 05:35:52,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: these Gulf states also have massive... 4574 05:35:52,780 --> 05:35:54,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: military capabilities. 4575 05:35:55,240 --> 05:35:59,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sila, they heavily invested in 4576 05:35:59,600 --> 05:36:05,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the most sophisticated missile defense systems, 4577 05:36:05,720 --> 05:36:09,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including yung Patriot system ng US. 4578 05:36:10,600 --> 05:36:10,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 4579 05:36:10,900 --> 05:36:13,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pangontra sa mga missile attacks ng Iran. 4580 05:36:14,160 --> 05:36:15,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Despite that, 4581 05:36:15,520 --> 05:36:16,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang laki pa rin ng nawasak. 4582 05:36:17,100 --> 05:36:17,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4583 05:36:18,220 --> 05:36:19,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong point ko? 4584 05:36:19,460 --> 05:36:20,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit ko sinasabi to? 4585 05:36:21,320 --> 05:36:22,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siguro alam na natin, 4586 05:36:22,780 --> 05:36:23,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pinupuntahan. 4587 05:36:23,900 --> 05:36:24,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibalik natin ngayon 4588 05:36:24,980 --> 05:36:27,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa kaso ng Subic. 4589 05:36:28,600 --> 05:36:29,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kanina, sabi natin, 4590 05:36:30,440 --> 05:36:31,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakalaking ambag, 4591 05:36:31,640 --> 05:36:32,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakahalaga. 4592 05:36:32,440 --> 05:36:35,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The main industrial engine 4593 05:36:35,340 --> 05:36:38,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Luzon and probably nationwide. 4594 05:36:40,580 --> 05:36:42,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaso, pinakita din natin, 4595 05:36:43,920 --> 05:36:45,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay magkatabi na 4596 05:36:45,400 --> 05:36:47,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at magkasama 4597 05:36:47,020 --> 05:36:49,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung economic na civilian 4598 05:36:49,520 --> 05:36:51,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at saka US military. 4599 05:36:51,940 --> 05:36:52,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nilista. 4600 05:36:52,780 --> 05:36:54,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ako kanina, dry dock, 4601 05:36:54,880 --> 05:36:56,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mayroong storage facility, 4602 05:36:57,280 --> 05:37:00,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fuel storage. 4603 05:37:01,500 --> 05:37:02,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, yung pinakamalaking fuel 4604 05:37:02,840 --> 05:37:03,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito ng Pilipinas, 4605 05:37:04,140 --> 05:37:06,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandun yung sarili nating reserves, 4606 05:37:07,140 --> 05:37:08,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandun din yung reserves 4607 05:37:08,260 --> 05:37:09,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng US military. 4608 05:37:10,080 --> 05:37:11,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Galing pa po yan sa Hawaii, 4609 05:37:11,420 --> 05:37:12,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung sinara nilang facility. 4610 05:37:12,800 --> 05:37:13,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 4611 05:37:13,480 --> 05:37:15,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Does the SBMA confirm that? 4612 05:37:16,520 --> 05:37:19,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, yung fuel dito ng Hawaii 4613 05:37:19,080 --> 05:37:19,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sinara, 4614 05:37:19,680 --> 05:37:21,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Red Hill fuel, 4615 05:37:21,680 --> 05:37:23,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fuel depot, 4616 05:37:23,180 --> 05:37:24,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinara, 4617 05:37:24,500 --> 05:37:25,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dinala po sa Subic. 4618 05:37:26,900 --> 05:37:27,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? 4619 05:37:28,660 --> 05:37:29,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, 4620 05:37:29,620 --> 05:37:30,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: my point being, 4621 05:37:31,360 --> 05:37:31,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay, 4622 05:37:33,260 --> 05:37:35,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the event of war, 4623 05:37:35,860 --> 05:37:36,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayaw natin ng gera, 4624 05:37:37,140 --> 05:37:38,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero ang US mismo, 4625 05:37:40,280 --> 05:37:41,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya nga may Paxilica, 4626 05:37:42,060 --> 05:37:42,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinasabi nila, 4627 05:37:43,440 --> 05:37:44,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paghahanda ito sa gera 4628 05:37:44,780 --> 05:37:45,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: laban sa China. 4629 05:37:47,300 --> 05:37:47,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 4630 05:37:48,500 --> 05:37:51,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: US must secure its supply chains. 4631 05:37:51,680 --> 05:37:54,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Because almost all the manufacturing 4632 05:37:54,080 --> 05:37:55,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is coming from China. 4633 05:37:55,760 --> 05:37:57,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so pag nagkaroon po ng gera 4634 05:37:57,480 --> 05:37:59,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against, 4635 05:37:59,640 --> 05:38:01,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang US laban sa China, 4636 05:38:02,740 --> 05:38:03,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh, 4637 05:38:03,620 --> 05:38:05,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: batay sa nangyari sa Iran, 4638 05:38:05,180 --> 05:38:05,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: definitely, 4639 05:38:06,640 --> 05:38:08,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: target na po ang Subic. 4640 05:38:10,120 --> 05:38:11,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You can bet on that. 4641 05:38:12,040 --> 05:38:13,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, alam na rin ito ng US. 4642 05:38:14,220 --> 05:38:14,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is why 4643 05:38:14,980 --> 05:38:16,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the US 4644 05:38:16,760 --> 05:38:18,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: now has a project 4645 05:38:18,660 --> 05:38:20,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to 4646 05:38:20,100 --> 05:38:20,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 4647 05:38:21,680 --> 05:38:23,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to invest in 4648 05:38:23,700 --> 05:38:25,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a fuel depot 4649 05:38:25,460 --> 05:38:26,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Davao, 4650 05:38:26,840 --> 05:38:27,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the Davao Gulf. 4651 05:38:29,300 --> 05:38:31,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil sabi mismo ng mga dokumento ng US, 4652 05:38:31,880 --> 05:38:33,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: vulnerable tayo sa Subic, 4653 05:38:33,820 --> 05:38:35,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gumawa tayo ng fuel depot sa Davao. 4654 05:38:36,680 --> 05:38:37,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, alam ito ng US. 4655 05:38:38,080 --> 05:38:39,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinaghahandaan na ito ng US. 4656 05:38:39,900 --> 05:38:40,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang tanong ko po 4657 05:38:40,900 --> 05:38:42,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Subic, 4658 05:38:42,740 --> 05:38:44,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa SBMA, 4659 05:38:45,300 --> 05:38:45,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay, 4660 05:38:46,840 --> 05:38:47,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang kapasidad nyo 4661 05:38:47,940 --> 05:38:50,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para protektahan at depensahan 4662 05:38:50,640 --> 05:38:51,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang airfields, 4663 05:38:51,680 --> 05:38:52,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang SBMA 4664 05:38:52,460 --> 05:38:54,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against 4665 05:38:54,180 --> 05:38:55,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 4666 05:38:55,020 --> 05:38:56,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: military attack 4667 05:38:56,040 --> 05:38:57,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in case of 4668 05:38:57,780 --> 05:38:59,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a war between 4669 05:38:59,120 --> 05:39:00,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: US and China. 4670 05:39:01,020 --> 05:39:01,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Under the SBMA, 4671 05:39:02,280 --> 05:39:02,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 4672 05:39:02,500 --> 05:39:03,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the 4673 05:39:03,220 --> 05:39:04,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Economic Zone Law, 4674 05:39:05,340 --> 05:39:06,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung security, 4675 05:39:07,100 --> 05:39:08,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: securing the zone, 4676 05:39:08,700 --> 05:39:09,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is responsibility 4677 05:39:09,520 --> 05:39:11,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the national government. 4678 05:39:11,680 --> 05:39:12,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 4679 05:39:12,900 --> 05:39:13,920 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 4680 05:39:14,040 --> 05:39:14,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. 4681 05:39:14,540 --> 05:39:15,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano po ang kakayahan 4682 05:39:16,460 --> 05:39:17,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng SBMA 4683 05:39:18,340 --> 05:39:18,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na protektahan? 4684 05:39:19,560 --> 05:39:20,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, 4685 05:39:20,240 --> 05:39:20,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung, 4686 05:39:20,420 --> 05:39:21,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung fuel depot, 4687 05:39:21,680 --> 05:39:22,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Subic. 4688 05:39:23,380 --> 05:39:23,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi ko nga, 4689 05:39:23,880 --> 05:39:24,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magkakatabi nyo, 4690 05:39:24,620 --> 05:39:26,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung tanke para sa US Navy 4691 05:39:26,180 --> 05:39:27,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at yung reserve. 4692 05:39:29,020 --> 05:39:30,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 20 billion pesos 4693 05:39:30,220 --> 05:39:32,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na diesel 4694 05:39:32,340 --> 05:39:34,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na binili 4695 05:39:34,140 --> 05:39:36,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng PNOC 4696 05:39:36,640 --> 05:39:38,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at the height of the 4697 05:39:38,260 --> 05:39:39,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: energy crisis, 4698 05:39:40,300 --> 05:39:41,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang malaking bahagi nyo, 4699 05:39:41,800 --> 05:39:42,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandyan. 4700 05:39:43,320 --> 05:39:43,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 4701 05:39:44,360 --> 05:39:45,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang kakayahan 4702 05:39:45,380 --> 05:39:48,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng SBMA 4703 05:39:48,040 --> 05:39:49,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na protektahan 4704 05:39:49,380 --> 05:39:50,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga pasilidad na ito? 4705 05:39:50,980 --> 05:39:51,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May kakayahan ba? 4706 05:39:51,680 --> 05:39:54,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, Madam Speaker, 4707 05:39:55,220 --> 05:39:59,280 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the mandate of SBMA 4708 05:39:59,280 --> 05:40:02,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is to generate revenues 4709 05:40:02,200 --> 05:40:04,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and to attract investment. 4710 05:40:04,400 --> 05:40:05,060 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That's one. 4711 05:40:05,680 --> 05:40:06,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Second, 4712 05:40:06,960 --> 05:40:08,200 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, besides the fact 4713 05:40:08,200 --> 05:40:10,180 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that there is a military presence 4714 05:40:10,180 --> 05:40:12,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: on the northern part of SBMA, 4715 05:40:13,460 --> 05:40:14,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Philippine Navy, 4716 05:40:14,680 --> 05:40:15,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there's a presence 4717 05:40:15,580 --> 05:40:16,620 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the Philippine Navy there, 4718 05:40:17,040 --> 05:40:18,540 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the SBMA also 4719 05:40:18,540 --> 05:40:20,360 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: continually coordinates 4720 05:40:20,360 --> 05:40:21,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with local institutions 4721 05:40:21,680 --> 05:40:23,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and law enforcement agencies. 4722 05:40:23,640 --> 05:40:23,840 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 4723 05:40:24,100 --> 05:40:24,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kaya nga po, 4724 05:40:24,660 --> 05:40:27,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ang daming maritime interdictions 4725 05:40:27,160 --> 05:40:28,760 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: na nahuhuli. 4726 05:40:29,300 --> 05:40:33,000 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Not just the espionage activities, 4727 05:40:33,300 --> 05:40:35,380 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but even anti-smuggling 4728 05:40:35,380 --> 05:40:36,860 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and anti-drug operations. 4729 05:40:37,080 --> 05:40:37,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay. 4730 05:40:37,100 --> 05:40:37,220 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Oo. 4731 05:40:37,740 --> 05:40:38,020 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, 4732 05:40:38,780 --> 05:40:40,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in terms of their capability 4733 05:40:40,820 --> 05:40:43,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as to how to protect themselves 4734 05:40:43,120 --> 05:40:43,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: from attacks, 4735 05:40:45,720 --> 05:40:47,320 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: palagi naman pong coordinated 4736 05:40:47,320 --> 05:40:50,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ang SBMA sa AFP, 4737 05:40:50,720 --> 05:40:51,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: sa iba't iba po po natin, 4738 05:40:51,680 --> 05:40:54,740 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: mga law enforcement agencies. 4739 05:40:55,340 --> 05:40:56,260 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Besides that, 4740 05:40:56,740 --> 05:40:59,100 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: meron silang intelligence office, 4741 05:40:59,840 --> 05:41:01,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so kasama dyan yung mga 4742 05:41:01,520 --> 05:41:03,520 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: different intelligence agencies natin. 4743 05:41:04,240 --> 05:41:06,140 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yun yung primary way 4744 05:41:06,140 --> 05:41:08,120 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in which pinaprotektahan ng SBMA 4745 05:41:08,120 --> 05:41:08,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung sarili nila. 4746 05:41:09,180 --> 05:41:09,820 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker. 4747 05:41:10,340 --> 05:41:10,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4748 05:41:10,720 --> 05:41:11,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi po sa Section 9 4749 05:41:11,880 --> 05:41:14,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Special Economic Zone Law, 4750 05:41:15,200 --> 05:41:15,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ecozone Law, 4751 05:41:16,360 --> 05:41:16,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Section 9, 4752 05:41:16,940 --> 05:41:17,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Defense and Security, 4753 05:41:18,420 --> 05:41:19,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Defense of the Ecozone 4754 05:41:19,680 --> 05:41:21,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the Security of its Perimeter Fence, 4755 05:41:21,680 --> 05:41:23,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall be the responsibility 4756 05:41:23,620 --> 05:41:25,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the National Government 4757 05:41:25,440 --> 05:41:27,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in coordination with the PESA. 4758 05:41:28,640 --> 05:41:29,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, essentially, 4759 05:41:29,420 --> 05:41:31,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakadepende talaga sa National Government. 4760 05:41:32,340 --> 05:41:33,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po bang 4761 05:41:33,380 --> 05:41:35,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: drone defenses 4762 05:41:35,500 --> 05:41:37,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang SBMA? 4763 05:41:38,740 --> 05:41:39,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya pong 4764 05:41:39,480 --> 05:41:41,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: protektahan sa drone? 4765 05:41:42,320 --> 05:41:43,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag inatake ng drone, 4766 05:41:44,140 --> 05:41:44,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may depensa po? 4767 05:41:45,760 --> 05:41:47,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang SBMA po, Madam Speaker, 4768 05:41:48,220 --> 05:41:48,420 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: wala. 4769 05:41:48,720 --> 05:41:48,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero, 4770 05:41:48,960 --> 05:41:50,600 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: nag-coordinate po yung SBMA 4771 05:41:50,600 --> 05:41:51,660 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with the Philippine Navy. 4772 05:41:51,680 --> 05:41:53,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Philippine Navy ang merong drone. 4773 05:41:54,000 --> 05:41:55,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: E, anti-missile defense, 4774 05:41:55,580 --> 05:41:57,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron po ba kaya na available 4775 05:41:57,520 --> 05:41:58,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang 4776 05:41:58,980 --> 05:42:00,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang 4777 05:42:00,440 --> 05:42:02,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: SBMA? 4778 05:42:02,640 --> 05:42:04,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para protektahan po yung fuel dito. 4779 05:42:04,680 --> 05:42:06,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: E, pagka pinasabog yan, 4780 05:42:07,700 --> 05:42:08,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala na tayong 4781 05:42:08,500 --> 05:42:10,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reserbang langis. 4782 05:42:11,180 --> 05:42:12,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang SBMA po ay wala, 4783 05:42:13,140 --> 05:42:15,040 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but ang Philippine Navy po ay meron. 4784 05:42:15,300 --> 05:42:17,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron ang Philippine Navy. 4785 05:42:18,040 --> 05:42:18,480 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Meron po. 4786 05:42:18,840 --> 05:42:19,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron ba talaga? 4787 05:42:19,520 --> 05:42:20,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Do we have? 4788 05:42:21,680 --> 05:42:22,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Do we have such defenses? 4789 05:42:26,140 --> 05:42:28,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinag-iisipan ba 4790 05:42:28,140 --> 05:42:29,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng SBMA 4791 05:42:29,960 --> 05:42:32,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang senaryo na ito? 4792 05:42:50,500 --> 05:42:51,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinag-iisipan po ba 4793 05:42:51,520 --> 05:42:52,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng SBMA. 4794 05:42:53,340 --> 05:42:55,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, ano po, kung sakali, 4795 05:42:55,960 --> 05:42:57,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know, scenario building, 4796 05:42:58,000 --> 05:42:59,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung sakali, magkaroon 4797 05:42:59,700 --> 05:43:01,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nga ng gera between US 4798 05:43:01,180 --> 05:43:02,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and China, 4799 05:43:03,580 --> 05:43:05,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the US government itself 4800 05:43:05,220 --> 05:43:07,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is planning 4801 05:43:07,640 --> 05:43:08,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 4802 05:43:08,980 --> 05:43:11,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a war 4803 05:43:11,860 --> 05:43:13,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with China in 2027. 4804 05:43:13,800 --> 05:43:15,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang nasa mga national security 4805 05:43:15,820 --> 05:43:17,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: documents ng US. Sabi nila, by 4806 05:43:17,600 --> 05:43:19,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, ay 4807 05:43:19,660 --> 05:43:20,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: posibleng 4808 05:43:20,620 --> 05:43:25,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: militarily ay 4809 05:43:25,080 --> 05:43:27,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isisikapin ang China 4810 05:43:27,380 --> 05:43:29,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ma-integrate na 4811 05:43:29,040 --> 05:43:30,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Taiwan. 4812 05:43:31,600 --> 05:43:33,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung so-called 4813 05:43:33,440 --> 05:43:35,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Taiwan contingency. So, sa ganung 4814 05:43:35,700 --> 05:43:36,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: scenario, 4815 05:43:36,520 --> 05:43:39,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027 po ang kanilang sinasabi, 4816 05:43:39,840 --> 05:43:41,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ganung scenario, 4817 05:43:42,520 --> 05:43:43,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at kung sakaling mawasak 4818 05:43:43,880 --> 05:43:45,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po ang mga pasilidad 4819 05:43:45,440 --> 05:43:47,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ginagamit ng US sa 4820 05:43:47,500 --> 05:43:49,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Subic, yung 4821 05:43:49,280 --> 05:43:50,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fuel depot, 4822 05:43:50,100 --> 05:43:51,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga dry dock, 4823 05:43:51,840 --> 05:43:52,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 4824 05:43:52,320 --> 05:43:55,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ship building facility, 4825 05:43:56,620 --> 05:43:59,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga possibly, kung may mga 4826 05:43:59,700 --> 05:44:01,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data centers, yung mga warehouse, 4827 05:44:02,400 --> 05:44:03,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on, 4828 05:44:04,000 --> 05:44:05,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano pong magiging 4829 05:44:05,500 --> 05:44:06,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: epekto nun? 4830 05:44:11,260 --> 05:44:13,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano kaya magiging epekto nun sa 4831 05:44:13,440 --> 05:44:16,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: SBMA at sa larger economy? 4832 05:44:17,060 --> 05:44:17,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, yung kita 4833 05:44:17,900 --> 05:44:19,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: po ng SBMA, definitely 4834 05:44:19,900 --> 05:44:21,900 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: bababa po yun kung nangyari po yun. 4835 05:44:22,200 --> 05:44:23,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, in turn, may negative 4836 05:44:23,980 --> 05:44:25,460 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: effect po yun sa... 4837 05:44:25,460 --> 05:44:27,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It would have a major effect, katulad nung sinabi 4838 05:44:27,580 --> 05:44:29,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: niyo kanina, at least 50 billion 4839 05:44:29,920 --> 05:44:31,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a year, ang contribution sa 4840 05:44:31,800 --> 05:44:32,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ekonomiya. 4841 05:44:33,620 --> 05:44:35,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano po ang kailangan para ma 4842 05:44:35,600 --> 05:44:37,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: restore, 4843 05:44:37,900 --> 05:44:40,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma-rehabilitate kung sakaling ma-damage 4844 05:44:40,080 --> 05:44:41,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga pasilidad na to? 4845 05:44:42,640 --> 05:44:43,900 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our 4846 05:44:43,900 --> 05:44:45,580 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: distinguished colleague, please wrap up. 4847 05:44:46,740 --> 05:44:48,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker, I still 4848 05:44:48,020 --> 05:44:48,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: have time. 4849 05:44:49,900 --> 05:44:51,980 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, we have to quantify that 4850 05:44:51,980 --> 05:44:52,800 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given na may 4851 05:44:52,800 --> 05:44:56,160 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: rebuilding of facilities 4852 05:44:56,160 --> 05:44:57,960 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and what not, but definitely 4853 05:44:57,960 --> 05:44:58,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a big... 4854 05:44:58,940 --> 05:45:00,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It would be a big cost. 4855 05:45:00,960 --> 05:45:06,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, definitely, dapat pag-isipan kung paano didipensahan nito. Tama po ba? 4856 05:45:07,200 --> 05:45:07,940 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. 4857 05:45:08,080 --> 05:45:17,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sa ngayon, meron na po bang plano ang SBMA? Kaugnay niyan? Paano didipensahan ang mga ito? 4858 05:45:22,300 --> 05:45:27,580 Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, in terms of defense strategy po, the SBMA defers to the Department of National Defense. 4859 05:45:27,580 --> 05:45:32,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, Madam Speaker, siguro yun lang po ang pinakapunto natin dito. 4860 05:45:34,660 --> 05:45:45,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang SBMA, ang BCDA, at ang Malacanang mismo ay talagang pinipresenta ang sarili dito sa Paxilica Initiative. 4861 05:45:46,840 --> 05:45:54,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kanina narinig natin sa BCDA, nag-offer na, dalawang taon libre, walang renta sa lupa, 1,600 hectares. 4862 05:45:55,900 --> 05:45:57,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tinanggap na ng US. 4863 05:45:57,580 --> 05:46:01,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantalang wala pa namang anumang konkretong commitment ng US. 4864 05:46:02,180 --> 05:46:02,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba? 4865 05:46:03,220 --> 05:46:09,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We accept. Pero kami, wala. Nothing. Wala naman. Puro laway pa lang. 4866 05:46:11,160 --> 05:46:14,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun po ka-atat na atat. 4867 05:46:14,940 --> 05:46:26,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang ating, ang administrasyong ito, at ang SBMA, aminado sila na napakalaki ng presensya ng US military 4868 05:46:26,460 --> 05:46:27,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa napakahalagang 4869 05:46:27,580 --> 05:46:32,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: economic infrastructure na ito. 4870 05:46:33,560 --> 05:46:37,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang sinasabi po natin, hindi na po hypothetical. 4871 05:46:38,340 --> 05:46:45,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung sakaling magkaroon ng gera sa pagitan ng US at China, at ito ang pinag-ahandaan ng US, 4872 05:46:46,720 --> 05:46:50,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya nga sila nagpapalaki ng presensya dyan sa Subic, 4873 05:46:52,020 --> 05:46:55,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay may epekto po yan sa SBMA. 4874 05:46:56,500 --> 05:46:57,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 4875 05:46:57,020 --> 05:46:58,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kayo po ang, ay mawawasak. 4876 05:46:59,800 --> 05:47:08,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi na po hypothetical yun dahil ganun ang nangyari sa mga bansa sa Gulf. 4877 05:47:08,500 --> 05:47:08,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 4878 05:47:08,720 --> 05:47:10,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In the so-called Gulf states. 4879 05:47:10,540 --> 05:47:12,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, and so on. 4880 05:47:13,400 --> 05:47:13,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 4881 05:47:13,860 --> 05:47:19,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang mga yun may sariling kakayahan na depensa ng sarili and yet di kinaya. 4882 05:47:20,320 --> 05:47:20,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nawasak. 4883 05:47:20,940 --> 05:47:21,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba? 4884 05:47:21,120 --> 05:47:22,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Katulad nung nakita natin kanina. 4885 05:47:22,700 --> 05:47:24,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano pa kaya ang Pilipinas? 4886 05:47:24,000 --> 05:47:26,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, I understand. 4887 05:47:26,000 --> 05:47:31,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I understand this is a policy question that goes beyond the SBMA. 4888 05:47:31,900 --> 05:47:33,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National issue na po ito. 4889 05:47:33,880 --> 05:47:42,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ang punto po natin ay tumataya ang Marcos Jr. Administration sa Paxilica na ito. 4890 05:47:42,520 --> 05:47:45,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi, the whole Luzon Economic Corridor. 4891 05:47:45,860 --> 05:47:54,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, not just Subic, but also Clark, pati yung sa Batangas, at iba pa na involved sa corridor na yan. 4892 05:47:54,320 --> 05:47:54,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bataan. 4893 05:47:54,960 --> 05:47:57,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakikita ko ang kasamahan natin from Bataan. 4894 05:47:58,920 --> 05:48:00,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Damay po kayo dyan. 4895 05:48:00,340 --> 05:48:01,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Damay tayong lahat dyan. 4896 05:48:02,800 --> 05:48:11,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And if ever matuloy yung gera na pinag-aandaan ng US laban sa China, 4897 05:48:12,000 --> 05:48:16,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nakataya po ay ang malaking bahagi ng ating ekonomiya. 4898 05:48:16,920 --> 05:48:24,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kung sakaling mangyari yung nangyari sa Gulf states, 4899 05:48:24,960 --> 05:48:29,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay babalik po tayo sa parang, in effect, parang pinatubo. 4900 05:48:29,960 --> 05:48:37,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung ano yung nangyari sa Subic at Clark nung panahon ng pinatubo. 4901 05:48:37,900 --> 05:48:38,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, ganun na po. 4902 05:48:38,540 --> 05:48:40,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sagutin ko na sa inyo, anong mangyari dyan? 4903 05:48:40,320 --> 05:48:41,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang pinatubo. 4904 05:48:42,120 --> 05:48:46,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that would set us back by practically two generations. 4905 05:48:47,000 --> 05:48:48,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung sakaling mangyari po yun. 4906 05:48:48,800 --> 05:48:54,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the point here, Madam Speaker, is really to question, 4907 05:48:54,960 --> 05:49:04,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the wisdom of this administration in betting on the so-called Pax Silitka 4908 05:49:04,140 --> 05:49:10,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ang bantapo ay sa pinaka-siguridad ng buhay ng mga Pilipino 4909 05:49:10,940 --> 05:49:17,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at sa ekonomiya mismo at pag-unlad ng Pilipinas. 4910 05:49:17,740 --> 05:49:24,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nang walang anumang pag-iisip at pag-aanda para sa depensa. 4911 05:49:25,120 --> 05:49:25,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba? 4912 05:49:26,080 --> 05:49:31,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po, with that, Madam Speaker, tatapusin ko na po ang aking interpellation. 4913 05:49:31,260 --> 05:49:32,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po. 4914 05:49:32,460 --> 05:49:33,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No to Pax Silica 4915 05:49:34,780 --> 05:49:37,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do we hear the motion to terminate? 4916 05:49:39,980 --> 05:49:42,020 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, on the part of the minority. 4917 05:49:43,500 --> 05:49:46,080 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tino, please proceed. 4918 05:49:46,260 --> 05:49:47,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, yes. Okay. 4919 05:49:47,840 --> 05:49:54,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, there being no other member of the minority who wishes to interpolate, 4920 05:49:54,960 --> 05:50:03,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I move to terminate the period of interpolation and debate on the proposed budget of the SBMA. 4921 05:50:04,420 --> 05:50:05,280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 4922 05:50:06,100 --> 05:50:12,860 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate 4923 05:50:12,860 --> 05:50:16,900 Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: the period of interpolation on the proposed budget of SPMA. 4924 05:50:17,600 --> 05:50:24,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority. 4925 05:50:24,320 --> 05:50:24,940 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do we hear any objections? 4926 05:50:26,400 --> 05:50:31,500 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, the period of interpellation on the proposed budget of SPMA is hereby terminated. 4927 05:50:32,360 --> 05:50:33,240 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 4928 05:50:38,100 --> 05:50:43,360 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Science and Technology. 4929 05:50:44,500 --> 05:50:46,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Including its attached agencies. 4930 05:50:46,480 --> 05:50:51,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Science and Technology, 4931 05:50:51,840 --> 05:50:53,180 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its attached agencies. 4932 05:50:53,180 --> 05:50:54,700 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: And for this purpose, 4933 05:50:54,960 --> 05:50:59,740 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Honorable Vice Chair, Loreto Amante, is hereby recognized to sponsor said agency. 4934 05:51:07,660 --> 05:51:08,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 4935 05:51:10,400 --> 05:51:14,260 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the first interpellator. 4936 05:51:15,760 --> 05:51:16,280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Tinio. 4937 05:51:17,180 --> 05:51:20,300 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: The Congressman Tino of the Act Teachers Party. 4938 05:51:20,300 --> 05:51:24,560 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Antonio Tino. 4939 05:51:25,500 --> 05:51:27,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is recognized for his interpolation. 4940 05:51:39,500 --> 05:51:43,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tino is recognized for his interpellation. 4941 05:51:44,920 --> 05:51:48,320 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Baka hindi na magtatal. 4942 05:51:48,320 --> 05:51:48,940 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Ito, boss. 4943 05:52:04,020 --> 05:52:09,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Chair, kung ready na po yung presentation. 4944 05:52:09,320 --> 05:52:11,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The sponsor is ready? 4945 05:52:11,280 --> 05:52:13,220 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes, I'm ready, Madam Chair. 4946 05:52:14,160 --> 05:52:15,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para makapag-proceed na tayo. 4947 05:52:17,160 --> 05:52:19,060 Rep. Amben S. Amante: I'm ready, Madam Speaker. 4948 05:52:19,500 --> 05:52:24,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The technical person is directed to play the slides. 4949 05:52:24,220 --> 05:52:26,280 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The presentation of the Hon. Tino. 4950 05:52:27,020 --> 05:52:29,300 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: But prior to that, the Hon. Tino can... 4951 05:52:29,300 --> 05:52:30,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There it is. 4952 05:52:31,740 --> 05:52:32,420 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Okay. 4953 05:52:33,320 --> 05:52:38,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ang main question po natin sa budget ng DOST. 4954 05:52:38,620 --> 05:52:45,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una po, ito po yung budget ng DOST over a 10-year period, 4955 05:52:45,040 --> 05:52:48,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including the proposed budget for 2027. 4956 05:52:51,020 --> 05:52:52,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napansin po natin, 4957 05:52:52,380 --> 05:52:55,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang tinakamalaking bahagi ng budget. 4958 05:52:55,360 --> 05:52:56,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example, 4959 05:52:57,700 --> 05:53:02,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the current proposed budget... 4960 05:53:22,380 --> 05:53:35,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, the proposed budget for 2027 of the DOST is 6.868 Trillion Pesos. 4961 05:53:37,160 --> 05:53:39,640 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang napansin lang po natin, of that, 4962 05:53:41,340 --> 05:53:44,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you look at the breakdown of that budget, 4963 05:53:46,480 --> 05:53:51,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: most of it is in the form of 4964 05:53:51,200 --> 05:53:57,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: financial assistance and subsidy. 4965 05:53:57,280 --> 05:54:02,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of the 6.8 billion, 4966 05:54:02,920 --> 05:54:09,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4.687 billion is listed under financial assistance or subsidy. 4967 05:54:12,160 --> 05:54:17,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung chart po na yan, 4968 05:54:17,460 --> 05:54:20,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinapakita yung paglaki 4969 05:54:20,060 --> 05:54:21,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOST. 4970 05:54:21,200 --> 05:54:24,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang budget, pero ang kalakhang bahagi talaga, 4971 05:54:24,440 --> 05:54:25,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the blue portion, 4972 05:54:26,360 --> 05:54:28,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is financial assistance and subsidy. 4973 05:54:29,520 --> 05:54:32,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then, I look at the special provisions. 4974 05:54:32,980 --> 05:54:36,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Usually, pagka may financial assistance and subsidy, 4975 05:54:36,160 --> 05:54:38,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there should be a special provision 4976 05:54:38,260 --> 05:54:45,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that lays down the parameters 4977 05:54:45,760 --> 05:54:48,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the use of financial assistance and subsidy. 4978 05:54:48,700 --> 05:54:49,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero wala po tayong nakikita. 4979 05:54:49,980 --> 05:54:56,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa special provisions ng DOST budget ay, 4980 05:54:56,980 --> 05:55:00,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, there is mention of a priority research program 4981 05:55:00,980 --> 05:55:02,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then reporting and posting requirements. 4982 05:55:02,980 --> 05:55:06,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pwede lang po ba malinaw, 4983 05:55:06,980 --> 05:55:11,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit po yung napakalaking bahagi ng inyong budget 4984 05:55:11,980 --> 05:55:15,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: over, let's say, 80% of your budget, 4985 05:55:15,980 --> 05:55:18,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from eyeballing the charts, 4986 05:55:18,980 --> 05:55:23,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: falls under financial assistance slash subsidy. 4987 05:55:23,980 --> 05:55:26,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang ang dating, actually, usually, 4988 05:55:26,980 --> 05:55:29,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan yung terminong ginagamit sa ayuda. 4989 05:55:29,980 --> 05:55:30,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba? 4990 05:55:30,980 --> 05:55:31,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang mga scholarship. 4991 05:55:31,980 --> 05:55:33,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit po ganun? 4992 05:55:33,980 --> 05:55:36,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, 4993 05:55:36,980 --> 05:55:37,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: grants and aids po yan. 4994 05:55:37,980 --> 05:55:38,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sorry? 4995 05:55:38,980 --> 05:55:40,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Grants and aids. 4996 05:55:40,980 --> 05:55:42,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, yun. Grants and aids. 4997 05:55:42,980 --> 05:55:43,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 4998 05:55:43,980 --> 05:55:47,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, all of the, 4999 05:55:47,980 --> 05:55:51,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: grants and aids are under the Office of the Secretary. 5000 05:55:51,980 --> 05:55:53,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Highly centralized po yung budget. 5001 05:55:53,980 --> 05:56:00,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po tinatawag na financial subsidy ay dahil sa, 5002 05:56:00,980 --> 05:56:02,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito ay mga grants and aids. 5003 05:56:02,980 --> 05:56:07,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano po mga example ng grants and aids na ito? 5004 05:56:07,980 --> 05:56:09,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At pwede po bang, 5005 05:56:09,980 --> 05:56:13,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan lang, mabigyan tayo ng breakdown ng grants and aids? 5006 05:56:13,980 --> 05:56:15,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Ah, yes. 5007 05:56:15,980 --> 05:56:16,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, 5008 05:56:16,980 --> 05:56:17,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, 5009 05:56:17,980 --> 05:56:19,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah, distinguished colleague, 5010 05:56:19,980 --> 05:56:20,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah, 5011 05:56:20,980 --> 05:56:21,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: first, 5012 05:56:21,980 --> 05:56:25,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah, napupunta po ito sa research and development, 5013 05:56:25,980 --> 05:56:27,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: or R&D, 5014 05:56:27,980 --> 05:56:29,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah, 5015 05:56:29,980 --> 05:56:31,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: CEST, 5016 05:56:31,980 --> 05:56:33,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah, setup, 5017 05:56:33,980 --> 05:56:36,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: at ah, smart and sustainable community, 5018 05:56:36,980 --> 05:56:40,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: and ah, last is, ah, tax transfer. 5019 05:56:40,980 --> 05:56:42,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5020 05:56:42,980 --> 05:56:44,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, 5021 05:56:44,980 --> 05:56:46,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sige, baka pwede po magma, 5022 05:56:46,980 --> 05:56:51,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makapag-provide na lang ng, ah, breakdown nitong mga grants and aids 5023 05:56:51,980 --> 05:56:54,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 2026 and the proposed grants and aid, 5024 05:56:54,980 --> 05:56:59,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: grants and aid for 2027. 5025 05:56:59,980 --> 05:57:00,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay po ba yun? 5026 05:57:00,980 --> 05:57:02,980 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes, of course, ah. 5027 05:57:02,980 --> 05:57:03,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, thank you po. 5028 05:57:03,980 --> 05:57:04,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Singis gulit. 5029 05:57:04,980 --> 05:57:07,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, ngayon, during the budget briefings, ah, 5030 05:57:07,980 --> 05:57:12,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isa po sa mga nakita natin at medyo nagtanong tayo ng konti ay tungkol sa, ah, plano ng DOL, ah, 5031 05:57:12,980 --> 05:57:16,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: plano ng DOST para sa AI. 5032 05:57:16,980 --> 05:57:17,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 5033 05:57:17,980 --> 05:57:21,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the concept of, ah, AI sovereignty. 5034 05:57:21,980 --> 05:57:22,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 5035 05:57:22,980 --> 05:57:23,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5036 05:57:23,980 --> 05:57:28,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po bang mapaliwanag ng, ah, sponsor, 5037 05:57:28,980 --> 05:57:34,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung plano ng DOST kaugnay dito sa development ng AI sovereignty 5038 05:57:34,980 --> 05:57:41,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at magkano po yung, ah, ginamit na, nagastos na, at gagastusin in the proposed budget 5039 05:57:41,980 --> 05:57:43,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to develop AI sovereignty? 5040 05:57:43,980 --> 05:57:46,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba tong AI sovereignty in the first place? 5041 05:58:05,980 --> 05:58:14,160 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, 5042 05:58:14,320 --> 05:58:20,080 Rep. Amben S. Amante: ang isa po sa mga dine-develop po ng DOST ngayon ay yung Research Data Center. 5043 05:58:20,080 --> 05:58:39,000 Rep. Amben S. Amante: And also data digital transformation to fuel AI. 5044 05:58:39,000 --> 05:58:46,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Pero tama po. So, Research in AI. 5045 05:58:48,760 --> 05:58:49,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero yung konsepto nga. 5046 05:58:50,080 --> 05:58:57,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang DOST kaugnay ng AI sovereignty. Parang meron pong ginagawa ang DOST kaugnay niyan. 5047 05:58:57,980 --> 05:59:05,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ba yun? What does that mean? AI sovereignty at anong ginagawa ng DOST tungo rito? 5048 05:59:12,600 --> 05:59:13,480 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you. 5049 05:59:15,480 --> 05:59:19,560 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the DOST-ASDI, 5050 05:59:20,080 --> 05:59:27,240 Rep. Amben S. Amante: currently has the facilities for Research Data Center, Cloud Computing, and HPC. 5051 05:59:27,240 --> 05:59:39,540 Rep. Amben S. Amante: At an average of operational utilization at 33%, consisting of 38 storage servers, 22 compute servers, 5052 05:59:39,800 --> 05:59:49,880 Rep. Amben S. Amante: and 10 GPU servers to ensure operational and services that AI infrastructure is currently being set up in a data center. 5053 05:59:49,880 --> 05:59:57,620 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Within Metro Manila, within 24 H200 GPUs at 1248 CPU cores. 5054 06:00:00,180 --> 06:00:03,860 Rep. Amben S. Amante: 11,264 gigabytes RAM, 5055 06:00:04,060 --> 06:00:11,720 Rep. Amben S. Amante: and 1,574 terabytes storage. 5056 06:00:12,860 --> 06:00:15,960 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Well, thank you for that detailed answer. 5057 06:00:16,440 --> 06:00:22,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung pwede po, mahingi ko yung return para mabalikan natin. Maraming information po yung binibigay nyo. 5058 06:00:22,380 --> 06:00:28,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa isensya ang sinasabi nyo po, dito sa Metro Manila, meti na yung data center. 5059 06:00:28,100 --> 06:00:33,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI data center ang DOST na merong sariling kapasidad. 5060 06:00:34,540 --> 06:00:43,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung binanggit nyo, how many GPUs yung nandyan, yung capacity, yung storage, and so on and so forth. Tama po? 5061 06:00:44,160 --> 06:00:47,960 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Tama po kayo, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. 5062 06:00:47,960 --> 06:00:53,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ang ibig po sabihin yan, yung AI dito ay nasa Pilipinas. 5063 06:00:53,340 --> 06:01:08,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? Kasi yung siguro, alam natin, malaganap na ang paggamit ng AI, pero yung karaniwang ginagamit ng mga Pilipino ay nakabase sa ibang bansa yan at pag-aari ng ibang bansa, mainly US, also China. 5064 06:01:09,340 --> 06:01:23,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? For example, kung gumagamit ng chat GPT, ang mga server, mga computer, mga data center na nagpapatakbo nun ay nasa labas ng Pilipinas, pag-aari ng US. 5065 06:01:23,340 --> 06:01:26,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ng mga kumpanya ng US, pinagkikitaan nila. 5066 06:01:27,300 --> 06:01:28,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po, no? 5067 06:01:28,080 --> 06:01:48,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya nga po, mahalaga yung ginagawa ng DOST dahil sinasabi ng marami, magiging importanteng teknolohiya ang AI, importante na may sarili tayong kapasidad sa loob ng bansa para sa AI. 5068 06:01:48,740 --> 06:01:52,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At yung binanggit na data center na pinagkakitaan. 5069 06:01:53,340 --> 06:01:57,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagpapatakbo ngayon ng DOST ay bahagi nun, diba? 5070 06:01:58,340 --> 06:02:06,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para kahit maputulan tayo ng access sa AI ng US, meron tayo dito. 5071 06:02:07,340 --> 06:02:09,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama? Tama po ba? Ganun po ba? 5072 06:02:09,780 --> 06:02:10,060 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes. 5073 06:02:10,760 --> 06:02:11,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5074 06:02:11,400 --> 06:02:12,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker. 5075 06:02:12,180 --> 06:02:13,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright. Okay. 5076 06:02:13,020 --> 06:02:23,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, makano yung budget na for 2026 na inilaan dyan at para sa 2027? 5077 06:02:23,340 --> 06:02:24,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano ang hinihingi ninyo? 5078 06:02:25,940 --> 06:02:28,340 Rep. Amben S. Amante: For 2027, 300... 5079 06:02:28,860 --> 06:02:30,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 po muna. 2026. 5080 06:02:30,560 --> 06:02:36,300 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Makano na po yung binadjet dyan? Kung meron man. 2026 and then 2027. 5081 06:02:37,940 --> 06:02:40,340 Rep. Amben S. Amante: 200 million, Madam Speaker, this year. 5082 06:02:41,040 --> 06:02:42,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This year, 200 million? 5083 06:02:43,460 --> 06:02:43,740 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Correct. 5084 06:02:44,320 --> 06:02:45,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And for next year? 5085 06:02:46,520 --> 06:02:47,680 Rep. Amben S. Amante: 345 million. 5086 06:02:47,680 --> 06:02:51,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 345 million as investment in our own... 5087 06:02:53,340 --> 06:02:56,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI capacity, kumbaga. Parang ganun. 5088 06:02:56,980 --> 06:02:57,200 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes. 5089 06:02:57,240 --> 06:03:02,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos yung mga AI model na ginagamit, ano yun? Open source po ba yan? Paano yan? 5090 06:03:04,540 --> 06:03:06,100 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Open source, Madam Speaker. 5091 06:03:06,140 --> 06:03:12,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Open source model. Siyempre, hindi pwedeng gamitin natin yung closed source models, kaya nga closed source eh. 5092 06:03:14,460 --> 06:03:18,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Commercially, privately owned ng open AI, anthropic, et cetera. 5093 06:03:19,600 --> 06:03:19,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5094 06:03:19,820 --> 06:03:22,820 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po? If I may ask, ano yung mga... 5095 06:03:23,340 --> 06:03:27,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Open source models na pinagbabataya ng inyong... 5096 06:03:27,240 --> 06:03:29,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng inyong dine-develop na AI? 5097 06:03:39,260 --> 06:03:42,840 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Mga local large language, Madam Speaker. 5098 06:03:42,840 --> 06:03:47,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, local large language models, pero these large language models usually may mga... 5099 06:03:48,720 --> 06:03:51,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may mga kilala eh, na ginagamit. 5100 06:03:52,560 --> 06:03:52,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example... 5101 06:03:53,340 --> 06:03:57,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lama. Iyan yung ginawa ng Meta, pero open source. 5102 06:03:58,060 --> 06:04:06,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, actually, ang mga pinaka-mahalagang open source models are the ones developed by Chinese companies, no? 5103 06:04:06,240 --> 06:04:14,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Like Quen, Kimi, iyan yung mga ilang open source models. 5104 06:04:14,580 --> 06:04:16,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang ginagamit ng... 5105 06:04:16,340 --> 06:04:19,820 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, we are using Opus. 5106 06:04:20,260 --> 06:04:20,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sorry? 5107 06:04:20,940 --> 06:04:21,420 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Opus. 5108 06:04:23,340 --> 06:04:24,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakiulit po. 5109 06:04:24,360 --> 06:04:24,880 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Opus. 5110 06:04:25,920 --> 06:04:26,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opus. 5111 06:04:26,900 --> 06:04:27,260 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes. 5112 06:04:27,740 --> 06:04:28,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opus. 5113 06:04:29,960 --> 06:04:32,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opus, as far as I know, is proprietary. 5114 06:04:33,420 --> 06:04:35,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Claude, hindi po ba? Anthropic po yun, ha? 5115 06:04:46,060 --> 06:04:50,340 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Is it okay, Madam Speaker, na we can send the details to the Office of... 5116 06:04:50,340 --> 06:04:53,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, sige. Detail na lang po. O, sige. Importante po. Mahalaga. 5117 06:04:53,340 --> 06:04:55,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkaroon tayo ng... 5118 06:04:55,460 --> 06:04:57,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I mean, at least, sige. Huwag na po sa plenaryo. 5119 06:04:58,260 --> 06:05:01,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibigay na lang po yung mas technical na detalye kaugnay nito. 5120 06:05:02,000 --> 06:05:02,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5121 06:05:03,000 --> 06:05:09,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, at least, meron pong initiative and effort ng DOST to develop... 5122 06:05:11,160 --> 06:05:15,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let's call it local AI. 5123 06:05:16,180 --> 06:05:16,380 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 5124 06:05:17,060 --> 06:05:19,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ibig sabihin nun, kailangan may sarili kang data center 5125 06:05:19,800 --> 06:05:23,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at meron kang sariling large language. 5126 06:05:23,340 --> 06:05:25,180 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Large language models na gagamitin. 5127 06:05:25,820 --> 06:05:26,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5128 06:05:26,960 --> 06:05:30,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, let me go to Paxilica again. 5129 06:05:31,660 --> 06:05:35,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin, as far as we know, hindi directly involved ang DOST dyan. 5130 06:05:35,860 --> 06:05:36,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 5131 06:05:36,840 --> 06:05:38,400 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Tama po, Madam Speaker. 5132 06:05:38,680 --> 06:05:47,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, Paxilica, as an initiative, is involved with AI, among others. 5133 06:05:47,920 --> 06:05:48,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5134 06:05:48,020 --> 06:05:48,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5135 06:05:50,100 --> 06:05:53,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung AI, advanced AI manufacturing. 5136 06:05:53,340 --> 06:06:03,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And securing the critical mineral supply chain in order to develop AI. 5137 06:06:04,580 --> 06:06:10,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig nila sabihin, yung mga critical minerals to develop the semiconductors, 5138 06:06:10,880 --> 06:06:16,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the advanced GPUs, to be able to run, to develop and run 5139 06:06:16,800 --> 06:06:22,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the most advanced artificial intelligence models. 5140 06:06:22,340 --> 06:06:23,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Models. 5141 06:06:23,580 --> 06:06:23,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5142 06:06:23,940 --> 06:06:30,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil ang paniniwala ng US, kung sino ang may pinaka-advancing AI, 5143 06:06:31,360 --> 06:06:37,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: siya ay magkakaroon ng bentahe economically and militarily. 5144 06:06:38,640 --> 06:06:42,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya nagtutunggalian po ang US at China dito. 5145 06:06:42,440 --> 06:06:51,800 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang ginagawa ng US ay pinagkakaitila sa China yung mga pinaka-advanced na AI chips. 5146 06:06:52,200 --> 06:06:52,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 5147 06:06:52,340 --> 06:07:01,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, these are the export controls imposed by the US on advanced GPUs to China. 5148 06:07:02,180 --> 06:07:10,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang ganti naman ng China ay pinagkakait nila sa US yung rare earth minerals na kailangan para ma-produce yun. 5149 06:07:10,400 --> 06:07:11,580 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nandyan po tayo ngayon. 5150 06:07:11,720 --> 06:07:12,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya may Paxilica. 5151 06:07:13,400 --> 06:07:13,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5152 06:07:13,940 --> 06:07:15,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Why do I mention Paxilica? 5153 06:07:15,520 --> 06:07:19,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Because I would like to place on the record, 5154 06:07:19,780 --> 06:07:21,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 5155 06:07:21,540 --> 06:07:22,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a recent, 5156 06:07:22,340 --> 06:07:29,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a fairly recent speech of the US Undersecretary of State for Economic Affairs, 5157 06:07:29,840 --> 06:07:30,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Jacob Helberg. 5158 06:07:30,900 --> 06:07:33,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan, ilang beses siya nababanggit kanina pa, 5159 06:07:34,200 --> 06:07:37,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil siya yung pangunahing arkitekto ng Paxilica, 5160 06:07:37,780 --> 06:07:45,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at siya mismo yung pumunta dito sa Pilipinas para nga ma-inaugurate yung Paxilica sa New Clark City, 5161 06:07:45,340 --> 06:07:52,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: siya yung nakapirma at counterpart ni BCDA President Bingkang, 5162 06:07:52,340 --> 06:07:54,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sila yung nagpipirmahan. 5163 06:07:54,340 --> 06:07:56,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, Jacob Helberg. 5164 06:07:56,340 --> 06:08:02,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, what does he have to say particularly about AI sovereignty or digital sovereignty? 5165 06:08:02,340 --> 06:08:13,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po siyang speech published by the US State Department available on their website. 5166 06:08:13,340 --> 06:08:19,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi ko alam kung may visual tayo dyan, pero it's not really necessary, I can just read it. 5167 06:08:19,340 --> 06:08:21,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is dated June 25, 2020. 5168 06:08:21,340 --> 06:08:30,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The title of this speech is the Digital Sovereignty Trap. 5169 06:08:30,340 --> 06:08:31,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan. 5170 06:08:31,340 --> 06:08:39,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganito po, let me read into the record the words of the main architect of Paxilica. 5171 06:08:39,340 --> 06:08:48,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para alam po ng lahat ano ba ang pag-iisip talaga nung nagtutulak ng Paxilica na niyayakap ng Marcos Jr. Administration. 5172 06:08:48,340 --> 06:08:50,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These days, 5173 06:08:50,340 --> 06:08:55,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: few words flatter a government like digital sovereignty. 5174 06:08:55,340 --> 06:09:00,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It carries the music of independence, the dignity of self-rule, 5175 06:09:00,340 --> 06:09:04,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the promise that the nation holds its own destiny in its hands. 5176 06:09:04,340 --> 06:09:14,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So it is no surprise that the expression has been pressed into the service of a fashionable, fast-spreading policy debate. 5177 06:09:14,340 --> 06:09:15,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5178 06:09:15,340 --> 06:09:18,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is a growing number of governments, 5179 06:09:18,340 --> 06:09:24,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: persuaded that independence requires duplication, 5180 06:09:24,340 --> 06:09:28,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a drafting national AI strategies to match. 5181 06:09:28,340 --> 06:09:36,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Each resolved to rebuild inside its own borders a stack that already exists somewhere else. 5182 06:09:36,340 --> 06:09:38,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang ginagawa ng DOST. 5183 06:09:38,340 --> 06:09:42,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They are building a domestic AI stack. 5184 06:09:42,340 --> 06:09:43,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba? 5185 06:09:43,340 --> 06:09:45,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga data center, 5186 06:09:45,340 --> 06:09:46,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung equipment, 5187 06:09:46,340 --> 06:09:47,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung hardware, 5188 06:09:47,340 --> 06:09:48,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and also the software, 5189 06:09:48,340 --> 06:09:50,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the large language models, 5190 06:09:50,340 --> 06:09:51,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: open source. 5191 06:09:51,340 --> 06:09:54,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito yung tinutukoy ni Helberg. 5192 06:09:54,340 --> 06:09:55,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O. 5193 06:09:55,340 --> 06:09:57,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kayong mga ibang bansa, 5194 06:09:57,340 --> 06:10:01,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you are scrambling to develop your own, 5195 06:10:01,340 --> 06:10:03,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within your own borders, 5196 06:10:03,340 --> 06:10:05,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: your own AI stack. 5197 06:10:05,340 --> 06:10:07,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What does he have to say about it? 5198 06:10:07,340 --> 06:10:08,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Quote, 5199 06:10:08,340 --> 06:10:10,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is a seductive vision. 5200 06:10:10,340 --> 06:10:12,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is a seductive vision. 5201 06:10:12,340 --> 06:10:16,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is also backward and counterproductive. 5202 06:10:16,340 --> 06:10:19,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ang sabi ni Helberg. 5203 06:10:19,340 --> 06:10:21,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 5204 06:10:21,340 --> 06:10:23,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: picture this conference. 5205 06:10:23,340 --> 06:10:24,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya, 5206 06:10:24,340 --> 06:10:26,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there is always a conference 5207 06:10:26,340 --> 06:10:28,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: where 40 governments 5208 06:10:28,340 --> 06:10:30,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: rise in turn 5209 06:10:30,340 --> 06:10:32,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to pledge a sovereign cloud, 5210 06:10:32,340 --> 06:10:34,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a sovereign model, 5211 06:10:34,340 --> 06:10:38,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a national champion of their very own. 5212 06:10:38,340 --> 06:10:39,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, 5213 06:10:39,340 --> 06:10:40,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh, mga iba't ibang bansa, 5214 06:10:40,340 --> 06:10:43,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gusto nila magkaroon ng sarili nilang AI. 5215 06:10:43,340 --> 06:10:44,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5216 06:10:44,340 --> 06:10:47,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will applaud one another's independence. 5217 06:10:47,340 --> 06:10:49,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then they will go home 5218 06:10:49,340 --> 06:10:51,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and pour billions 5219 06:10:51,340 --> 06:10:53,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: into companies built to do 5220 06:10:53,340 --> 06:10:57,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: precisely what 39 others are doing 5221 06:10:57,340 --> 06:10:59,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in markets too small 5222 06:10:59,340 --> 06:11:02,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to sustain even one of them. 5223 06:11:02,340 --> 06:11:07,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Chasing margins that thin asymptotically toward nothing 5224 06:11:07,340 --> 06:11:10,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the moment the next champion is announced. 5225 06:11:10,340 --> 06:11:13,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will have achieved not so-called 5226 06:11:13,340 --> 06:11:15,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: digital sovereignty 5227 06:11:15,340 --> 06:11:19,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but a kind of synchronized mediocrity 5228 06:11:19,340 --> 06:11:22,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as planet of sub-scale clones 5229 06:11:22,340 --> 06:11:26,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: each heroically reconstructing last year's breakthrough 5230 06:11:26,340 --> 06:11:30,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: while the breakthrough itself moves on without them. 5231 06:11:30,340 --> 06:11:32,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pinagtatawanan po ni Helberg 5232 06:11:32,340 --> 06:11:34,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung ginagawa ng DOST. 5233 06:11:34,340 --> 06:11:35,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya, 5234 06:11:35,340 --> 06:11:36,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hibang kayo, 5235 06:11:36,340 --> 06:11:37,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-i-invest kayo. 5236 06:11:37,340 --> 06:11:39,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In this case, ang hinihingi niyo po, 5237 06:11:39,340 --> 06:11:41,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magkano nga po ulit yung hinihingi niyo? 5238 06:11:41,340 --> 06:11:42,340 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Ah, 5239 06:11:42,340 --> 06:11:43,340 Rep. Amben S. Amante: 300 million. 5240 06:11:43,340 --> 06:11:44,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 300 million. 5241 06:11:44,340 --> 06:11:45,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This year, 600. 5242 06:11:45,340 --> 06:11:46,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, 300. 5243 06:11:46,340 --> 06:11:47,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinagtatawanan ni Helberg. 5244 06:11:47,340 --> 06:11:48,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya, 5245 06:11:48,340 --> 06:11:49,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga hibang kayo, 5246 06:11:49,340 --> 06:11:52,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gumagawa kayo ng sarili nyong AI. 5247 06:11:52,340 --> 06:11:53,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5248 06:11:53,340 --> 06:11:54,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, 5249 06:11:54,340 --> 06:11:55,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what does he have to say? 5250 06:11:55,340 --> 06:11:56,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya rito, 5251 06:11:56,340 --> 06:11:58,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: he's laughing at digital sovereignty 5252 06:11:58,340 --> 06:12:00,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then he says, 5253 06:12:00,340 --> 06:12:02,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: while others rebuild the present, 5254 06:12:02,340 --> 06:12:04,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: American firms 5255 06:12:04,340 --> 06:12:07,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: will be inventing the future. 5256 06:12:07,340 --> 06:12:09,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oh. 5257 06:12:09,340 --> 06:12:11,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will not be defending yesterday's platform. 5258 06:12:11,340 --> 06:12:16,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will be shipping tomorrow's. 5259 06:12:16,340 --> 06:12:17,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, 5260 06:12:17,340 --> 06:12:18,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the products that do not yet exist 5261 06:12:18,340 --> 06:12:20,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that no committee in Geneva, 5262 06:12:20,340 --> 06:12:21,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: UN, 5263 06:12:21,340 --> 06:12:23,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: has thought to subsidize 5264 06:12:23,340 --> 06:12:25,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that will define the coming decade 5265 06:12:25,340 --> 06:12:28,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: before the clones have finished cloning 5266 06:12:28,340 --> 06:12:30,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the last one. 5267 06:12:30,340 --> 06:12:33,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And because they will stand alone at the frontier, 5268 06:12:33,340 --> 06:12:35,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they will keep what the frontier pays. 5269 06:12:35,340 --> 06:12:36,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The fat margins, 5270 06:12:36,340 --> 06:12:38,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the soaring valuations, 5271 06:12:38,340 --> 06:12:40,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the commanding heights of the global economy. 5272 06:12:40,340 --> 06:12:44,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is not an accident of American luck. 5273 06:12:44,340 --> 06:12:48,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is the iron arithmetic of zero to one. 5274 06:12:48,340 --> 06:12:51,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is the distinction the sovereignty evangelists miss 5275 06:12:51,340 --> 06:12:54,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and it is the whole game. 5276 06:12:54,340 --> 06:12:56,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5277 06:12:56,340 --> 06:12:59,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is the logic behind Pax Silica. 5278 06:12:59,340 --> 06:13:00,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyon ang sinasabi niya. 5279 06:13:00,340 --> 06:13:02,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Basically ang sinasabi po, 5280 06:13:02,340 --> 06:13:03,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: oh mga baliw kayo, 5281 06:13:03,340 --> 06:13:05,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kayong mga maliliit na bansa, 5282 06:13:05,340 --> 06:13:06,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naga-ambisyon kayo 5283 06:13:06,340 --> 06:13:08,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na meron din kayong sariling AI. 5284 06:13:08,340 --> 06:13:09,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5285 06:13:09,340 --> 06:13:12,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang pinakabanting AI ay yung sa amin. 5286 06:13:12,340 --> 06:13:15,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung pag-aari ng mga Amerikano. 5287 06:13:15,340 --> 06:13:19,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya huwag na kayong mag-aksaya ng pera at panahon nyo. 5288 06:13:19,340 --> 06:13:22,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sumama na kayo sa Pax Silica. 5289 06:13:22,340 --> 06:13:24,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At bayaran nyo. 5290 06:13:24,340 --> 06:13:27,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bilhin nyo ang AI ng mga kumpanyang Amerikano. 5291 06:13:27,340 --> 06:13:33,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyon po ang sinasabi ni Helberg. 5292 06:13:33,340 --> 06:13:34,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5293 06:13:34,340 --> 06:13:37,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah. 5294 06:13:37,340 --> 06:13:38,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 5295 06:13:38,340 --> 06:13:46,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the champions of digital sovereignty believe they are arming their nations for the future. 5296 06:13:46,340 --> 06:13:47,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In truth, 5297 06:13:47,340 --> 06:13:54,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they are marching them in perfect and well-funded formation into the past. 5298 06:13:54,340 --> 06:13:55,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5299 06:13:55,340 --> 06:13:56,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 5300 06:13:56,340 --> 06:13:57,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay. 5301 06:13:57,340 --> 06:13:58,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tatapusin ko na po. 5302 06:13:58,340 --> 06:14:00,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siguro nakuha nyo na yung point. 5303 06:14:00,340 --> 06:14:01,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah. 5304 06:14:01,340 --> 06:14:06,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyon po ang esensya at pilosopiya ng Pax Silica 5305 06:14:06,340 --> 06:14:10,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: galing mismo sa pangunahing arkitekto nito. 5306 06:14:10,340 --> 06:14:12,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Jacob Helberg. 5307 06:14:12,340 --> 06:14:13,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? 5308 06:14:13,340 --> 06:14:14,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sabi ko nga. 5309 06:14:14,340 --> 06:14:16,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinagtatawa na po ang DOST. 5310 06:14:16,340 --> 06:14:20,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang mga inisiyatiba ng ibang mga bansa. 5311 06:14:20,340 --> 06:14:24,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay, ba't kayo nag-aaksaya ng pera nyo sa sarili nyong AI? 5312 06:14:24,340 --> 06:14:27,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang pinakabanting AI ang AI ng mga Amerikano. 5313 06:14:27,340 --> 06:14:30,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Upahan nyo nila. 5314 06:14:30,340 --> 06:14:33,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Just buy from us, rent from us. 5315 06:14:33,340 --> 06:14:34,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ganun nga po ang nangyayari. 5316 06:14:34,340 --> 06:14:37,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the most part, 5317 06:14:37,340 --> 06:14:39,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, 5318 06:14:39,340 --> 06:14:42,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maybe the DOST can confirm, 5319 06:14:42,340 --> 06:14:45,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga government agencies po natin, 5320 06:14:45,340 --> 06:14:49,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increasingly, lumalaking bahagi ng budget 5321 06:14:49,340 --> 06:14:50,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is ah, 5322 06:14:50,340 --> 06:14:51,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI budget. 5323 06:14:51,340 --> 06:14:52,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Budget for AI. 5324 06:14:52,340 --> 06:14:53,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? 5325 06:14:53,340 --> 06:14:54,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5326 06:14:54,340 --> 06:15:00,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano na po ang nakalaan para sa pagbili ng 5327 06:15:00,120 --> 06:15:01,650 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga subscriptions, 5328 06:15:02,100 --> 06:15:03,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI subscriptions to 5329 06:15:03,740 --> 06:15:07,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: US providers. 5330 06:15:07,540 --> 06:15:09,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Does the DOST have information on that? 5331 06:15:10,560 --> 06:15:11,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po ba? 5332 06:15:14,240 --> 06:15:15,280 Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, 5333 06:15:16,300 --> 06:15:17,140 Rep. Amben S. Amante: distinguished colleagues, 5334 06:15:17,840 --> 06:15:18,600 Rep. Amben S. Amante: wala po. 5335 06:15:18,740 --> 06:15:19,780 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala po, wala po. 5336 06:15:19,880 --> 06:15:21,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O siguro sa DICT na lang yun. 5337 06:15:22,060 --> 06:15:22,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5338 06:15:22,860 --> 06:15:24,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Daan-daang bilyon na po 5339 06:15:24,000 --> 06:15:25,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nakalaan sa 5340 06:15:25,560 --> 06:15:28,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI subscription services 5341 06:15:28,000 --> 06:15:30,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: primarily to US 5342 06:15:30,140 --> 06:15:31,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: providers. 5343 06:15:32,640 --> 06:15:34,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kaya po, ako, 5344 06:15:34,500 --> 06:15:35,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinusuportahan ko 5345 06:15:35,520 --> 06:15:37,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ginagawa 5346 06:15:37,940 --> 06:15:39,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOST 5347 06:15:39,500 --> 06:15:40,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil napakahalaga. 5348 06:15:41,460 --> 06:15:43,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At walang hiya po 5349 06:15:43,320 --> 06:15:46,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang sinasabi nitong Helberg 5350 06:15:46,520 --> 06:15:49,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na huwag nyo nang, 5351 06:15:49,220 --> 06:15:50,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: huwag na kayong mag-aksaya 5352 06:15:50,360 --> 06:15:52,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pag-invest 5353 06:15:52,980 --> 06:15:54,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa sarili nyong AI. 5354 06:15:54,880 --> 06:15:56,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gamitin na lang natin 5355 06:15:56,000 --> 06:15:57,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung sa mga Amerikano, 5356 06:15:57,200 --> 06:15:57,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bayaran nyo sila. 5357 06:15:58,000 --> 06:15:58,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. 5358 06:15:59,640 --> 06:16:00,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po, 5359 06:16:00,640 --> 06:16:01,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the end, 5360 06:16:01,340 --> 06:16:01,900 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, 5361 06:16:02,500 --> 06:16:03,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we support 5362 06:16:03,200 --> 06:16:05,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the investment 5363 06:16:05,020 --> 06:16:06,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in 5364 06:16:06,020 --> 06:16:07,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: developing 5365 06:16:07,520 --> 06:16:08,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the domestic 5366 06:16:08,880 --> 06:16:10,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI 5367 06:16:10,040 --> 06:16:11,200 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: stack. 5368 06:16:11,900 --> 06:16:12,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? 5369 06:16:12,920 --> 06:16:14,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hardware and software, 5370 06:16:14,720 --> 06:16:15,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: infrastructure 5371 06:16:15,340 --> 06:16:16,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and 5372 06:16:16,600 --> 06:16:18,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: software 5373 06:16:18,480 --> 06:16:20,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at, 5374 06:16:20,700 --> 06:16:21,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and we reject 5375 06:16:21,540 --> 06:16:23,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the 5376 06:16:23,400 --> 06:16:24,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: very 5377 06:16:24,600 --> 06:16:27,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: logic 5378 06:16:27,040 --> 06:16:27,980 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Paxilic. 5379 06:16:28,000 --> 06:16:29,560 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya kinukundi na po natin 5380 06:16:29,560 --> 06:16:30,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang administrasyong ito 5381 06:16:30,940 --> 06:16:32,700 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil sinasalaksak 5382 06:16:32,700 --> 06:16:35,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa sambayan ng Pilipino 5383 06:16:35,500 --> 06:16:37,320 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang isang kasunduan 5384 06:16:37,320 --> 06:16:38,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na yung pangunahing 5385 06:16:38,720 --> 06:16:40,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagtutulak mismo nito 5386 06:16:40,880 --> 06:16:43,480 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay pinagtatawanan 5387 06:16:43,480 --> 06:16:45,940 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pagsisikap 5388 06:16:45,940 --> 06:16:48,220 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na mag-develop 5389 06:16:48,220 --> 06:16:49,880 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng sariling 5390 06:16:49,880 --> 06:16:51,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: abanteng teknolohiya 5391 06:16:51,340 --> 06:16:53,720 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng bansang tulad ng 5392 06:16:53,720 --> 06:16:54,440 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pilipinas. 5393 06:16:55,440 --> 06:16:57,840 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paxilica will only mean 5394 06:16:57,840 --> 06:16:59,660 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: further dependency 5395 06:16:59,660 --> 06:17:02,240 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the advanced technology 5396 06:17:02,240 --> 06:17:03,360 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the US 5397 06:17:03,360 --> 06:17:04,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa halip na 5398 06:17:04,520 --> 06:17:06,000 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung kasalukuyang 5399 06:17:06,000 --> 06:17:07,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagawa ngayon 5400 06:17:07,060 --> 06:17:09,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit papano 5401 06:17:09,080 --> 06:17:10,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOST 5402 06:17:10,120 --> 06:17:11,620 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on a small scale 5403 06:17:11,620 --> 06:17:12,860 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to develop 5404 06:17:12,860 --> 06:17:14,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: domestic 5405 06:17:14,520 --> 06:17:15,740 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI 5406 06:17:15,740 --> 06:17:17,280 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or sovereign AI. 5407 06:17:17,840 --> 06:17:18,100 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 5408 06:17:18,740 --> 06:17:19,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hanggang doon na lamang po, 5409 06:17:19,900 --> 06:17:20,520 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker. 5410 06:17:21,040 --> 06:17:21,420 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Again, 5411 06:17:22,320 --> 06:17:22,920 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibasura 5412 06:17:22,920 --> 06:17:24,260 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Paxilica na yan. 5413 06:17:25,040 --> 06:17:25,760 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat, 5414 06:17:25,900 --> 06:17:26,400 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker. 5415 06:17:27,840 --> 06:17:29,100 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we hear 5416 06:17:29,100 --> 06:17:30,380 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the necessary motion 5417 06:17:30,380 --> 06:17:31,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: from the Honorable 5418 06:17:31,000 --> 06:17:31,680 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker. 5419 06:17:32,540 --> 06:17:34,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There being no other 5420 06:17:34,060 --> 06:17:35,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: member of 5421 06:17:35,040 --> 06:17:36,500 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the minority 5422 06:17:36,500 --> 06:17:38,040 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that wishes to 5423 06:17:38,040 --> 06:17:39,020 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: interpellate, 5424 06:17:39,240 --> 06:17:40,340 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I therefore move 5425 06:17:40,340 --> 06:17:42,120 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to terminate 5426 06:17:42,120 --> 06:17:43,080 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the period 5427 06:17:43,080 --> 06:17:44,060 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of interpellation 5428 06:17:44,060 --> 06:17:44,600 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and debate 5429 06:17:44,600 --> 06:17:45,540 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the proposed 5430 06:17:45,540 --> 06:17:46,160 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget 5431 06:17:46,160 --> 06:17:47,460 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the DOST. 5432 06:17:48,320 --> 06:17:48,790 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority leader 5433 06:17:48,790 --> 06:17:51,140 Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Including the attached agencies. 5434 06:17:52,360 --> 06:17:52,940 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, 5435 06:17:53,080 --> 06:17:53,620 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part of 5436 06:17:53,620 --> 06:17:54,440 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the majority, 5437 06:17:54,660 --> 06:17:55,640 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority 5438 06:17:55,640 --> 06:17:56,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: in the motion 5439 06:17:56,460 --> 06:17:57,120 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate 5440 06:17:57,120 --> 06:17:57,560 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the period 5441 06:17:57,560 --> 06:17:58,520 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of interpolations 5442 06:17:58,520 --> 06:17:59,180 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and the proposed 5443 06:17:59,180 --> 06:18:00,120 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: budget of 5444 06:18:00,120 --> 06:18:02,780 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Department of Science 5445 06:18:02,780 --> 06:18:03,480 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and Technology, 5446 06:18:04,140 --> 06:18:04,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its 5447 06:18:04,840 --> 06:18:05,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: attached agencies. 5448 06:18:07,140 --> 06:18:08,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a joint 5449 06:18:08,120 --> 06:18:09,260 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: motion to terminate 5450 06:18:09,260 --> 06:18:09,940 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the period of 5451 06:18:09,940 --> 06:18:11,020 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: debate and interpellation 5452 06:18:11,020 --> 06:18:11,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and the proposed 5453 06:18:11,600 --> 06:18:13,060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: budget of the 5454 06:18:13,060 --> 06:18:14,060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Department of Science 5455 06:18:14,060 --> 06:18:14,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and Technology, 5456 06:18:14,820 --> 06:18:15,260 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its 5457 06:18:15,260 --> 06:18:16,100 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: attached agencies. 5458 06:18:16,300 --> 06:18:17,140 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do I hear an objection? 5459 06:18:18,100 --> 06:18:18,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, 5460 06:18:18,780 --> 06:18:19,500 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: a joint motion 5461 06:18:19,500 --> 06:18:20,040 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is carried. 5462 06:18:21,340 --> 06:18:22,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The interpellation 5463 06:18:22,120 --> 06:18:22,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the proposed 5464 06:18:22,660 --> 06:18:23,720 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: budget of DOST 5465 06:18:23,720 --> 06:18:24,480 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and its attached 5466 06:18:24,480 --> 06:18:25,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: agencies is 5467 06:18:25,160 --> 06:18:26,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: hereby terminated. 5468 06:18:27,000 --> 06:18:27,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority, 5469 06:18:27,560 --> 06:18:28,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 5470 06:18:28,380 --> 06:18:28,960 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, 5471 06:18:29,160 --> 06:18:29,980 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to suspend 5472 06:18:29,980 --> 06:18:31,100 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: consideration 5473 06:18:31,100 --> 06:18:32,240 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: House Bill 5474 06:18:32,240 --> 06:18:33,540 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: number 5475 06:18:33,540 --> 06:18:35,480 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: 10858. 5476 06:18:35,760 --> 06:18:36,340 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Any objection? 5477 06:18:36,640 --> 06:18:37,060 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, 5478 06:18:37,140 --> 06:18:37,860 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: consideration of 5479 06:18:37,860 --> 06:18:38,220 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: House Bill 5480 06:18:38,220 --> 06:18:39,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: 10858 5481 06:18:39,160 --> 06:18:40,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby suspended. 5482 06:18:40,760 --> 06:18:41,440 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader. 5483 06:18:41,900 --> 06:18:42,400 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, 5484 06:18:42,540 --> 06:18:43,400 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to take up 5485 06:18:43,400 --> 06:18:44,280 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: additional reference 5486 06:18:44,280 --> 06:18:44,760 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of business 5487 06:18:44,760 --> 06:18:45,460 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and request 5488 06:18:45,460 --> 06:18:46,020 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: that the 5489 06:18:46,020 --> 06:18:46,840 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Secretary General 5490 06:18:46,840 --> 06:18:47,600 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: be directed 5491 06:18:47,600 --> 06:18:48,600 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to read 5492 06:18:48,600 --> 06:18:49,340 Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the resolutions. 5493 06:18:50,780 --> 06:18:51,620 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: An objection. 5494 06:18:52,320 --> 06:18:52,880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, 5495 06:18:52,960 --> 06:18:53,700 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Secretary General 5496 06:18:53,700 --> 06:18:54,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby directed 5497 06:18:54,600 --> 06:18:55,320 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to read the title 5498 06:18:55,320 --> 06:18:55,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of bills 5499 06:18:55,760 --> 06:18:56,660 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and first reading 5500 06:18:56,660 --> 06:18:57,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: as well, 5501 06:18:57,560 --> 06:18:58,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: as resolutions, 5502 06:18:58,660 --> 06:18:59,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: messages, 5503 06:18:59,680 --> 06:19:00,240 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: communications, 5504 06:19:00,600 --> 06:19:01,480 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and committee reports. 5505 06:19:03,380 --> 06:19:04,040 Secretary-General: Additional 5506 06:19:04,040 --> 06:19:05,400 Secretary-General: additional reference 5507 06:19:05,400 --> 06:19:05,960 Secretary-General: of business. 5508 06:19:06,360 --> 06:19:07,480 Secretary-General: Bills on first reading. 5509 06:19:08,100 --> 06:19:09,560 Secretary-General: House Bill 11372. 5510 06:19:10,600 --> 06:19:11,220 Secretary-General: Upgrading the 5511 06:19:11,220 --> 06:19:12,520 Secretary-General: Johnny Villanueva 5512 06:19:12,520 --> 06:19:13,920 Secretary-General: General Hospital 5513 06:19:13,920 --> 06:19:15,480 Secretary-General: in the Bukawi, 5514 06:19:15,580 --> 06:19:15,980 Secretary-General: Bulacan 5515 06:19:15,980 --> 06:19:16,460 Secretary-General: into a 5516 06:19:16,460 --> 06:19:17,220 Secretary-General: Committee on Health. 5517 06:19:18,460 --> 06:19:19,860 Secretary-General: House Bill 11373 5518 06:19:19,860 --> 06:19:20,460 Secretary-General: expanding the 5519 06:19:20,460 --> 06:19:21,600 Secretary-General: lateral entry program 5520 06:19:21,600 --> 06:19:22,400 Secretary-General: of the PNP 5521 06:19:22,400 --> 06:19:23,340 Secretary-General: by Representative 5522 06:19:23,340 --> 06:19:23,840 Secretary-General: Dumogan. 5523 06:19:24,180 --> 06:19:24,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Public 5524 06:19:24,800 --> 06:19:25,500 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Order and Safety. 5525 06:19:26,040 --> 06:19:27,480 Secretary-General: House Bill 11374. 5526 06:19:27,560 --> 06:19:28,260 Secretary-General: Strengthening the 5527 06:19:28,260 --> 06:19:28,720 Secretary-General: protection, 5528 06:19:28,720 --> 06:19:29,360 Secretary-General: conservation, 5529 06:19:29,360 --> 06:19:30,320 Secretary-General: and sustainable 5530 06:19:30,320 --> 06:19:31,000 Secretary-General: development of the 5531 06:19:31,000 --> 06:19:31,860 Secretary-General: Sierra Madre Mountain 5532 06:19:31,860 --> 06:19:32,560 Secretary-General: Range. 5533 06:19:32,560 --> 06:19:33,720 Secretary-General: The Committee on Government 5534 06:19:33,720 --> 06:19:34,440 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Enterprises and 5535 06:19:34,440 --> 06:19:35,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Privatization. 5536 06:19:35,800 --> 06:19:37,160 Secretary-General: House Bill 11375. 5537 06:19:37,160 --> 06:19:37,840 Secretary-General: Providing for the 5538 06:19:37,840 --> 06:19:38,800 Secretary-General: Philippine Medical Act 5539 06:19:38,800 --> 06:19:39,400 Secretary-General: by Representative 5540 06:19:39,400 --> 06:19:40,400 Secretary-General: Corllantes. 5541 06:19:40,400 --> 06:19:41,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Civil 5542 06:19:41,200 --> 06:19:42,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Service and Professional 5543 06:19:42,120 --> 06:19:42,640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Regulation. 5544 06:19:42,640 --> 06:19:44,040 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Health. 5545 06:19:44,040 --> 06:19:45,520 Secretary-General: House Bill 11376. 5546 06:19:45,520 --> 06:19:46,320 Secretary-General: Providing for the 5547 06:19:46,320 --> 06:19:47,880 Secretary-General: perpetual existence 5548 06:19:47,880 --> 06:19:48,400 Secretary-General: of the Philippine 5549 06:19:48,400 --> 06:19:49,160 Secretary-General: International Trade 5550 06:19:49,160 --> 06:19:49,720 Secretary-General: Corporation 5551 06:19:49,720 --> 06:19:50,960 Secretary-General: by Representative 5552 06:19:50,960 --> 06:19:51,680 Secretary-General: Corllantes. 5553 06:19:51,680 --> 06:19:52,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Government 5554 06:19:52,680 --> 06:19:53,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Enterprises and 5555 06:19:53,360 --> 06:19:54,680 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Privatization. 5556 06:19:54,680 --> 06:19:56,240 Secretary-General: House Bill 11377. 5557 06:19:56,240 --> 06:19:57,240 Secretary-General: Granting senior citizens 5558 06:19:57,240 --> 06:19:58,440 Secretary-General: a minimum five percent 5559 06:19:58,440 --> 06:19:59,840 Secretary-General: discount on the first 5560 06:19:59,840 --> 06:20:01,080 Secretary-General: 150 kilowatt hours 5561 06:20:01,080 --> 06:20:03,400 Secretary-General: of electricity consumption 5562 06:20:03,400 --> 06:20:04,720 Secretary-General: on the first 50 cubic 5563 06:20:04,720 --> 06:20:05,400 Secretary-General: meters of water 5564 06:20:05,400 --> 06:20:06,320 Secretary-General: consumption, 5565 06:20:06,320 --> 06:20:07,280 Secretary-General: exception for the 5566 06:20:07,280 --> 06:20:08,000 Secretary-General: value added tax 5567 06:20:08,000 --> 06:20:08,560 Secretary-General: by Representative 5568 06:20:08,560 --> 06:20:08,840 Secretary-General: Remuglia. 5569 06:20:08,840 --> 06:20:09,640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Senior 5570 06:20:09,640 --> 06:20:10,640 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Citizens. 5571 06:20:10,640 --> 06:20:12,000 Secretary-General: House Bill 11378. 5572 06:20:12,000 --> 06:20:12,960 Secretary-General: Strengthening ethical 5573 06:20:12,960 --> 06:20:14,040 Secretary-General: standards in the 5574 06:20:14,040 --> 06:20:14,640 Secretary-General: public service 5575 06:20:14,640 --> 06:20:15,320 Secretary-General: by mandating the 5576 06:20:15,320 --> 06:20:16,320 Secretary-General: Civil Service Commission 5577 06:20:16,320 --> 06:20:17,040 Secretary-General: and other relevant 5578 06:20:17,040 --> 06:20:18,360 Secretary-General: agencies to provide 5579 06:20:18,360 --> 06:20:20,600 Secretary-General: education to government 5580 06:20:20,600 --> 06:20:21,720 Secretary-General: officials and employees 5581 06:20:21,720 --> 06:20:22,320 Secretary-General: by Representative 5582 06:20:22,320 --> 06:20:23,000 Secretary-General: Remuglia. 5583 06:20:23,000 --> 06:20:23,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Civil 5584 06:20:23,840 --> 06:20:24,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Service and Professional 5585 06:20:24,760 --> 06:20:25,960 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Regulation. 5586 06:20:25,960 --> 06:20:27,200 Secretary-General: House Bill 11379. 5587 06:20:27,240 --> 06:20:28,200 Secretary-General: Declaring a one-time 5588 06:20:28,200 --> 06:20:29,240 Secretary-General: amnesty on all 5589 06:20:29,240 --> 06:20:30,040 Secretary-General: unpaid internal 5590 06:20:30,040 --> 06:20:31,160 Secretary-General: revenue taxes 5591 06:20:31,160 --> 06:20:31,760 Secretary-General: imposed by the 5592 06:20:31,760 --> 06:20:32,680 Secretary-General: national government 5593 06:20:32,680 --> 06:20:33,960 Secretary-General: for taxable year 5594 06:20:33,960 --> 06:20:36,000 Secretary-General: 2024 and prior years. 5595 06:20:36,000 --> 06:20:37,200 Secretary-General: Representatives 5596 06:20:37,200 --> 06:20:38,120 Secretary-General: Tulfo Raffaender 5597 06:20:38,120 --> 06:20:39,000 Secretary-General: and Tulfo Josidy. 5598 06:20:39,000 --> 06:20:39,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on 5599 06:20:39,520 --> 06:20:40,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Ways and Means. 5600 06:20:40,840 --> 06:20:42,240 Secretary-General: House Bill 11381. 5601 06:20:42,240 --> 06:20:43,160 Secretary-General: Granting hazard pay 5602 06:20:43,160 --> 06:20:43,720 Secretary-General: to Barangay 5603 06:20:43,720 --> 06:20:44,880 Secretary-General: and tanod members. 5604 06:20:44,880 --> 06:20:46,280 Secretary-General: Representative Nisay. 5605 06:20:46,280 --> 06:20:46,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on 5606 06:20:46,760 --> 06:20:48,200 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Local Government. 5607 06:20:48,200 --> 06:20:49,520 Secretary-General: House Bill 11382. 5608 06:20:49,520 --> 06:20:50,400 Secretary-General: Granting hazard pay 5609 06:20:50,400 --> 06:20:51,440 Secretary-General: to workers in critical 5610 06:20:51,440 --> 06:20:52,520 Secretary-General: industries, 5611 06:20:52,520 --> 06:20:53,440 Secretary-General: during a state of 5612 06:20:53,440 --> 06:20:54,560 Secretary-General: calamity or emergency 5613 06:20:54,560 --> 06:20:55,280 Secretary-General: or public health 5614 06:20:55,280 --> 06:20:55,880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: emergency. 5615 06:20:55,880 --> 06:20:56,480 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on 5616 06:20:56,480 --> 06:20:57,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Labor and Employment. 5617 06:20:57,360 --> 06:20:58,560 Secretary-General: House Bill 11383. 5618 06:20:58,560 --> 06:20:59,720 Secretary-General: Providing for mandatory 5619 06:20:59,720 --> 06:21:01,040 Secretary-General: insurance coverage, 5620 06:21:01,040 --> 06:21:01,800 Secretary-General: benefits and hazard 5621 06:21:01,800 --> 06:21:02,720 Secretary-General: pay for journalists, 5622 06:21:02,720 --> 06:21:03,920 Secretary-General: employees of [unclear] 5623 06:21:03,920 --> 06:21:05,320 Secretary-General: entities or [unclear] 5624 06:21:05,320 --> 06:21:05,920 Secretary-General: assignments. 5625 06:21:05,920 --> 06:21:06,440 Secretary-General: To the Committee on 5626 06:21:06,440 --> 06:21:08,000 Secretary-General: Labor and Employment. 5627 06:21:08,000 --> 06:21:09,160 Secretary-General: House Bill 11384. 5628 06:21:09,160 --> 06:21:10,240 Secretary-General: Creating a tripartite 5629 06:21:10,240 --> 06:21:11,240 Secretary-General: concept to address 5630 06:21:11,240 --> 06:21:12,320 Secretary-General: unemployment, 5631 06:21:12,320 --> 06:21:13,040 Secretary-General: underemployment 5632 06:21:13,040 --> 06:21:14,000 Secretary-General: and the job skills 5633 06:21:14,000 --> 06:21:14,880 Secretary-General: mismatch problem 5634 06:21:14,880 --> 06:21:15,760 Secretary-General: in the country. 5635 06:21:15,760 --> 06:21:16,880 Secretary-General: Representative Nisay. 5636 06:21:16,880 --> 06:21:17,360 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on 5637 06:21:17,360 --> 06:21:18,560 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Labor and Employment. 5638 06:21:18,560 --> 06:21:19,760 Secretary-General: House Bill 11385. 5639 06:21:19,760 --> 06:21:20,600 Secretary-General: Regulating the 5640 06:21:20,600 --> 06:21:21,320 Secretary-General: organization and 5641 06:21:21,320 --> 06:21:22,480 Secretary-General: operation of 5642 06:21:22,480 --> 06:21:23,200 Secretary-General: community fund 5643 06:21:23,200 --> 06:21:23,880 Secretary-General: pooling or 5644 06:21:23,880 --> 06:21:25,080 Secretary-General: paluwagin groups. 5645 06:21:25,080 --> 06:21:26,120 Secretary-General: Representative Nisay. 5646 06:21:26,120 --> 06:21:27,000 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Committee on Micro, Small 5647 06:21:27,000 --> 06:21:27,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and Medium Enterprise 5648 06:21:27,840 --> 06:21:28,760 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Development. 5649 06:21:28,760 --> 06:21:29,960 Secretary-General: House Bill 11386. 5650 06:21:29,960 --> 06:21:30,640 Secretary-General: Preserving the 5651 06:21:30,640 --> 06:21:31,800 Secretary-General: indigenous games 5652 06:21:31,800 --> 06:21:32,880 Secretary-General: of the Philippines. 5653 06:21:32,880 --> 06:21:34,120 Secretary-General: Representative Nisay. 5654 06:21:34,120 --> 06:21:34,520 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on 5655 06:21:34,520 --> 06:21:35,120 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Youth and Sports 5656 06:21:35,120 --> 06:21:35,880 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Development. 5657 06:21:35,880 --> 06:21:37,240 Secretary-General: House Bill 11387. 5658 06:21:37,240 --> 06:21:37,760 Secretary-General: Strengthening 5659 06:21:37,760 --> 06:21:38,320 Secretary-General: responsible 5660 06:21:38,320 --> 06:21:39,720 Secretary-General: firearm ownership 5661 06:21:39,720 --> 06:21:40,440 Secretary-General: and accountability 5662 06:21:40,440 --> 06:21:41,080 Secretary-General: of Representative 5663 06:21:41,080 --> 06:21:41,360 Secretary-General: D. 5664 06:21:41,360 --> 06:21:42,040 Secretary-General: Paustino and 5665 06:21:42,040 --> 06:21:42,800 Secretary-General: Marcos. 5666 06:21:42,800 --> 06:21:43,320 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Committee on Public 5667 06:21:43,320 --> 06:21:44,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Order and Safety. 5668 06:21:44,800 --> 06:21:45,880 Secretary-General: Resolutions. 5669 06:21:45,880 --> 06:21:46,640 Secretary-General: House Resolution 5670 06:21:46,640 --> 06:21:48,040 Secretary-General: 1460. 5671 06:21:48,040 --> 06:21:48,440 Secretary-General: Directing the 5672 06:21:48,440 --> 06:21:48,800 Secretary-General: appropriate 5673 06:21:48,800 --> 06:21:49,560 Secretary-General: committee of 5674 06:21:49,560 --> 06:21:50,000 Secretary-General: the House of 5675 06:21:50,000 --> 06:21:51,120 Secretary-General: Representatives 5676 06:21:51,120 --> 06:21:51,560 Secretary-General: to conduct 5677 06:21:51,560 --> 06:21:52,080 Secretary-General: an inquiry 5678 06:21:52,080 --> 06:21:52,480 Secretary-General: into the 5679 06:21:52,480 --> 06:21:52,960 Secretary-General: continued 5680 06:21:52,960 --> 06:21:53,520 Secretary-General: operation 5681 06:21:53,520 --> 06:21:54,240 Secretary-General: and availability 5682 06:21:54,240 --> 06:21:54,480 Secretary-General: in the 5683 06:21:54,480 --> 06:21:55,360 Secretary-General: Philippines 5684 06:21:55,360 --> 06:21:55,760 Secretary-General: of the 5685 06:21:55,760 --> 06:21:56,360 Secretary-General: services 5686 06:21:56,360 --> 06:21:57,080 Secretary-General: of Meta 5687 06:21:57,080 --> 06:21:57,640 Secretary-General: Platforms 5688 06:21:57,640 --> 06:21:58,680 Secretary-General: Incorporated. 5689 06:21:58,680 --> 06:21:59,200 Secretary-General: Representative 5690 06:21:59,200 --> 06:21:59,520 Secretary-General: De Jesus. 5691 06:21:59,520 --> 06:21:59,920 Secretary-General: Committee on 5692 06:21:59,920 --> 06:22:00,680 Secretary-General: Rules. 5693 06:22:00,680 --> 06:22:01,920 Secretary-General: House Resolution 5694 06:22:01,920 --> 06:22:03,240 Secretary-General: 1461. 5695 06:22:03,240 --> 06:22:03,920 Secretary-General: Congratulating 5696 06:22:03,920 --> 06:22:04,520 Secretary-General: and commending 5697 06:22:04,520 --> 06:22:05,080 Secretary-General: the Jesus 5698 06:22:05,080 --> 06:22:06,280 Secretary-General: Lord Church 5699 06:22:06,280 --> 06:22:07,200 Secretary-General: Worldwide 5700 06:22:07,200 --> 06:22:07,880 Secretary-General: on the celebration 5701 06:22:07,880 --> 06:22:08,920 Secretary-General: of its 48th 5702 06:22:08,920 --> 06:22:09,280 Secretary-General: founding 5703 06:22:09,280 --> 06:22:11,600 Secretary-General: anniversary 5704 06:22:11,600 --> 06:22:12,160 Secretary-General: on October 5705 06:22:12,160 --> 06:22:12,360 Secretary-General: 10, 5706 06:22:12,360 --> 06:22:13,080 Secretary-General: 2026. 5707 06:22:13,080 --> 06:22:13,640 Secretary-General: Representative 5708 06:22:13,640 --> 06:22:14,240 Secretary-General: Baronda. 5709 06:22:14,240 --> 06:22:14,560 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Committee on 5710 06:22:14,560 --> 06:22:15,400 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Rules. 5711 06:22:15,400 --> 06:22:16,120 Secretary-General: House Resolution 5712 06:22:16,120 --> 06:22:17,400 Secretary-General: 1464. 5713 06:22:17,400 --> 06:22:17,800 Secretary-General: Commending 5714 06:22:17,800 --> 06:22:18,320 Secretary-General: and honoring 5715 06:22:18,320 --> 06:22:19,240 Secretary-General: the extraordinary 5716 06:22:19,240 --> 06:22:19,760 Secretary-General: bravery 5717 06:22:19,760 --> 06:22:20,280 Secretary-General: and supreme 5718 06:22:20,280 --> 06:22:21,200 Secretary-General: sacrifice 5719 06:22:21,200 --> 06:22:21,840 Secretary-General: of Scout 5720 06:22:21,840 --> 06:22:22,280 Secretary-General: Chris 5721 06:22:22,280 --> 06:22:22,760 Secretary-General: Lawrence 5722 06:22:22,760 --> 06:22:23,240 Secretary-General: Tanglao 5723 06:22:23,240 --> 06:22:24,120 Secretary-General: Fabian, 5724 06:22:24,120 --> 06:22:24,440 Secretary-General: who gave 5725 06:22:24,440 --> 06:22:24,800 Secretary-General: his life 5726 06:22:24,800 --> 06:22:25,200 Secretary-General: to save 5727 06:22:25,200 --> 06:22:25,440 Secretary-General: his 5728 06:22:25,440 --> 06:22:26,000 Secretary-General: fellow 5729 06:22:26,000 --> 06:22:26,480 Secretary-General: students 5730 06:22:26,480 --> 06:22:26,840 Secretary-General: during 5731 06:22:26,840 --> 06:22:27,240 Secretary-General: the tragic 5732 06:22:27,240 --> 06:22:27,600 Secretary-General: shooting 5733 06:22:27,600 --> 06:22:28,040 Secretary-General: incident 5734 06:22:28,040 --> 06:22:29,400 Secretary-General: at San Jose 5735 06:22:29,400 --> 06:22:29,760 Secretary-General: National 5736 06:22:29,760 --> 06:22:30,360 Secretary-General: High 5737 06:22:30,360 --> 06:22:30,760 Secretary-General: School 5738 06:22:30,760 --> 06:22:31,280 Secretary-General: in Tacloban 5739 06:22:31,280 --> 06:22:31,960 Secretary-General: City. 5740 06:22:31,960 --> 06:22:32,520 Secretary-General: Representative 5741 06:22:32,520 --> 06:22:33,160 Secretary-General: De Faustina 5742 06:22:33,160 --> 06:22:33,560 Secretary-General: Marcos 5743 06:22:33,560 --> 06:22:33,680 Secretary-General: and 5744 06:22:33,680 --> 06:22:34,440 Secretary-General: Libanan. 5745 06:22:34,440 --> 06:22:34,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Committee on 5746 06:22:34,800 --> 06:22:35,800 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Rules. 5747 06:22:35,800 --> 06:22:36,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority 5748 06:22:36,160 --> 06:22:39,600 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Leader. 5749 06:22:39,600 --> 06:22:39,880 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam 5750 06:22:39,880 --> 06:22:40,280 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Speaker, 5751 06:22:40,280 --> 06:22:40,520 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: move 5752 06:22:40,520 --> 06:22:41,000 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: to suspend 5753 06:22:41,000 --> 06:22:41,200 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: for a 5754 06:22:41,200 --> 06:22:41,360 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: few 5755 06:22:41,360 --> 06:22:42,480 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: minutes. 5756 06:22:42,480 --> 06:22:42,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session 5757 06:22:42,840 --> 06:22:43,840 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: suspended. 5758 06:26:30,280 --> 06:26:31,160 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed. 5759 06:26:31,760 --> 06:26:37,640 Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session until Monday, September 21 at 1 p.m. 5760 06:26:38,840 --> 06:26:46,540 Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Any objection? Hearing none. Session is suspended until Monday, September 21, 2026 at 1 o'clock in the afternoon.