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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and the officials of the Philippine Competition Commission,

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Chairperson Michael Aguinaldo, Commissioner Mara Victoria Querol, Commissioner Michael Peloton, Commissioner Lolibeth Medrano, Commissioner Ferdinand Negre. I so move, Mr. Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the heads of the Philippine Competition Commission headed by the Chairperson, the Honorable Michael G. Aguinaldo, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Dante Garcia, Vice Chair of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the budget of the Philippine Competition Commission.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Dante Garcia is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the honorable...

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Mr. Speaker, to my esteemed colleague in the House of Representatives,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: I once again stand to sponsor the budget of an agency that is vital to the strength of our economy across various sectors,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: such as public procurement, telecommunications,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: communications, and agriculture.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The Philippine Competition Commission, the PCC, implements the Philippine Competition Act

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: by prohibiting anti-competitive agreements,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: abuse of dominant position, and anti-competitive mergers and acquisitions.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: This would turn, ensure that business compete and consumers benefit.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Since we approved its budget in 2026, the PCC has ramped up its surveillance and investigative capabilities in procurement and bidding anomalies.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Scrutinize mergers and acquisitions that may harm markets.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Cast light on questionable business practices through economic research and increase...

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The business sector's understanding of competition law through advocacy and capacity-building activities.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: In terms of its surveillance and investigative mandate,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: the PCC has answered the nation's clamor to look into anomalous flood control projects.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC has referred to the Department of Justice its initial findings involving...

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: bidrigging in flood control projects in Bulacan.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Further, the PCC together with the NBI conducted a dawn raid

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: covering premises associated with SunWest Incorporated,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Eco Leisure and Hospitality Holdings Company, Inc.,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: where the PCC and NBI reasonably suspect that relevant documentary

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and electronic records related to the ongoing investigation were located.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: This decisive action underscores PCC's commitment to ensuring that business

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: operate within the bounds of the Philippine Competition Act.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: In addition, the PCC has fined the Boracay Business Administration

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: of Scuba Shops and 40 of its member dive shops,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: total of

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: 2.17 million for engaging in price-fixing on Boracay Island.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Malay, Aklan, and directed BBASS and its member dive shops

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: to cease and desist from enforcing the multi-year price-fixing agreement

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: that harmed local tourism.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC has likewise reviewed 21 mergers and acquisitions

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: with the transaction value that approximately

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: 515.6 billion pesos for any competition concerns

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: for fiscal year 2026 to date.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Across sectors such as energy and financial services,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: the PCC together with the DICT and NTC

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: likewise finalized the implementation of rules and regulations

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: of the Konektadong Pinoy Act,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: which aims to foster competition among

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: data, transmission industry participants,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and internet service providers.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Lastly, given the importance of awareness and competition laws

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: by the private sector and its regulators,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: the PCC continues to conduct advocacy and capacity-building activities.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC secured pledges from four of the biggest business organizations

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: in the country, namely the Philippine Chamber of Commerce,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The Philippine Retailers Association, the Pharmaceutical and Healthcare Association of the Philippines, and the Financial Executive Institute of the Philippines to uphold the provisions of the Philippine Competition Act.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: With a budget of P587.6 million, the PCC was able to achieve the aforementioned initiatives, as I believe that the PCC can do more with more resources to help the government protect public funds.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: While the overall national budget for 2027 sees a 6% increase, our specific request for the PCC is calibrated to address the complex challenges,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: we face across various sectors.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: This budget will enable us to significantly ramp up our surveillance and investigative capabilities,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: allowing us to proactively detect and dismantle cartels, anti-competitive conduct, and bidrigging schemes that prey on each Filipino.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: This budget will be used to bolster our enforcement arm,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: enhance our data

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: analytics capabilities to identify suspicious bidding patterns,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and strengthen our collaboration with other oversight agencies.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We are here to assure this Chamber that the PCC is fully committed to protect the public purse from the predatory practices of anti-competitive behavior.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: I urge my colleagues to support this budget.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: As it is about for fair markets, for fiscal responsibility, and for more competitive, prosperous Philippines.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Garcia, Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list PHILRECA is recognized.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and to the distinguished sponsor, my idol.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Cong Dante Garcia.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My question is about the competition in Philippine renewable energy sector.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, good evening po sa atin lahat.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: PCC plays a crucial role in ensuring healthy competition in the energy sector.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So I will start.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is it true that the PCC had already conducted a competition impact assessment?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the Green Energy Auction Program, or GEAP, with the DOE and ERC?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, the PCC conducted the study in 2025 and then conducted policy dialogue with the DOE and ERC last January and March of this year.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The study examined whether specific features of the program may create or facilitate anti-competitive effects.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: in the renewable energy sector, and identified policy options to address potential competition concerns,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: including the role of the PCC in coordination with the DOE, ERC, and other relevant bodies.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My follow-up question is, is it also true that the group had identified competition concerns

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: involving the geographic segmentation of the green energy sector?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the determination of Green Energy Auction Reserve, or GEAR, prices and the disclosure of price caps and conduct of pre-bid conferences, among others.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can you share those competition concerns for the benefit of the body and the sector as a whole?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC's role is to primarily assess the competition effects of GEAP

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: within the existing framework and recommend pro-competitive reforms to the agencies concerned,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: namely DOE and ERC.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The study identified three potential competition concerns.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: First, the location-specific or per-grid auction design.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Second is the consistency and transparency of GEAR price determination

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and the disclosure of auction-related information, particularly GEAR prices,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: and the conduct

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: of pre-bid conferences.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My next follow-up question, Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor, is this part

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of PCC's mandate to

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: assess competition, risks,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and recommend reforms

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to maintain a healthy competitive

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: industry? So, what concrete

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: changes has the PCC

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: recommended to the ERC

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and DOE in making

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the GEAP process more competitive?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: As mentioned earlier,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: the PCC provided

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: policy recommendations were

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: based on its assessment

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: of GEAP 1 and GEAP 2

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: through the CIA.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Findings and recommendations

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: were discussed with the

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: DOE last January

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: 2026, and

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: ERC on March

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: 2026, through

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: policy dialogue including

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: their possible application

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: to future GIA programs.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor. Now, I'm moving

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to another topic, the

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: anti-competitive practices

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in fuel markets.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will still revolve around

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: competition in the energy sector

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in April 2026?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Amid

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: substantial fuel price pressures,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the PCC publicly

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: stated that it was closely

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: monitoring both the

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: petroleum market and

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: downstream markets for

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: anti-competitive conduct.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: There are also calls from

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: experts to examine

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: possible cartel-like behavior

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and improve coordination

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in enforcing

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: competition rules.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My question to the good sponsor,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is this has the PCC

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: move beyond

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: monitoring and actually

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: commence a formal investigation

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: motu proprio inquiry

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: into the conduct of oil companies

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: during that period?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: PCC is conducting

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: a fuel study

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: which aims to assess

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: asymmetry in price adjustments.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Example,

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: When stations price increase rapidly with international prices but adjust slowly when this cost decrease, it also aims to look at price dispersion within a city and determine whether particular stations or brands show delayed rollback or remain persistently above local market prices.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The study is ongoing pending data requests with fuel players and government agencies.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: PCC has started gathering and analyzing industry data to determine whether firm behavior during this time reflect a competitive environment or not.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Specifically looking at how firms adjust prices with and without the supply shocks.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: PCC issued requests for information to key players in the industry, some of which have complied with the request.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: At present, the PCC is analyzing the industry data.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC is analyzing the data to determine whether the behavior of the key players indicate possible anti-competitive conduct.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC has received request data from the DOA today, September 18, 2026.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor, a few days ago, I have raised urgent concerns related to privacy risks in digital platforms.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Incidentally, I came across the information that PCC's market study on social media and search platform found that the Philippines' digital platform market is highly concentrated and identified the accumulation of user data as a potential source of market power.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It specifically discussed Facebook and Google and observed that data advantages,

asr-000185
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: network effects, and economies of scale may reinforce barriers to entry.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What does the PCC intend to do with these findings beyond publishing the market study?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC has recommended incorporating data privacy considerations more explicitly into competition assessments.

asr-000188
00:17:22.840 --> 00:17:27.840
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Studying data, portability, and interoperability.

asr-000189
00:17:28.840 --> 00:17:39.600
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Strengthening coordination with privacy regulators and considering legislative measures to update the competition framework for data-driven markets.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

asr-000191
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In 2024, the PCC received substantial resources for the capacity building to foster competition projects,

asr-000192
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but only 34% of the continuing...

asr-000193
00:17:58.840 --> 00:18:02.540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: appropriation for the foreign-assisted project was obligated.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is that correct?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We note that said amount is part of the continuing appropriation for the project released in 2023.

asr-000197
00:18:13.540 --> 00:18:20.340
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: At that time, PCC requested for the issuance of SARO amounting 104 million only.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Equivalent to the loan proceeds downloaded by ADB, however,

asr-000199
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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: DBM issued 280 million instead.

asr-000200
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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Which resulted to the excess resources.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

asr-000202
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ADB's project data showed that as of June 23, 2026,

asr-000203
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: cumulative contract awards were only 45% and cumulative loan disbursements were 41%

asr-000204
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the loan has now been extended to June 30, 2028.

asr-000205
00:18:54.840 --> 00:18:58.820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Those figures are not identical to COA's

asr-000206
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: fiscal year 2024 utilization ratios

asr-000207
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: but they still indicate that the substantial portion of the project financing remained undisbursed.

asr-000208
00:19:12.360 --> 00:19:14.840
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Before Congress provides additional appropriation,

asr-000209
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: can the PCC give us its quarterly obligation and disbursement target for fiscal year 2027

asr-000210
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and identify exactly what activities will absorb these funds.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC can point to the loan extension, revised procurement, programming, additional project proposals, and strengthened monitoring as measures intended to accelerate implementation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And for my last question, how many pending antitrust or pending cases have been filed or are being reviewed by the Philippine Competition Commission?

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: There are seven active cases ongoing, Your Honor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can we divulge what those seven are, or will it be against the PCC's confidentiality clause?

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00:20:37.930 --> 00:20:43.620
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We will submit the complete data to you, Your Honor, for you to review.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. Thank you. Because, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, you know the Philippine Competition Commission plays a big role, especially to those merging companies, no, para hindi ho tayo maiwanan sa ere at walang collusion, especially po pagdating sa fuel. As you know, malaki ang problema natin sa fuel ngayon, and I hope the PCC will take cognizance when it comes to energy sources. Again,

asr-000215
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I always [unclear] for your budget for PCC for this year. Thank you very much.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable De Jesus, Majority Leader.

asr-000217
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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Robert Nazal for his interpellation.

asr-000218
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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Robert Nazal of Partylist BH is recognized. Please proceed.

asr-000219
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Good evening, Mr. Chair.

asr-000220
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, may I ask the PCC, have you studied what happens when a major retailer is both the gatekeeper of the market and a competitor of suppliers selling inside its stores?

asr-000221
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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Pinag-aaralan niyo po yan.

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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes.

asr-000225
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Major retailers carry products made by independent suppliers.

asr-000226
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: But they may also develop their own private label products.

asr-000227
00:22:18.060 --> 00:22:23.640
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Sometimes products very similar to those already being successfully sold by their suppliers.

asr-000228
00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:28.840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So there is nothing inherently illegal about private labels.

asr-000229
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: But the retailer knows what sells, controls the shelf, and counter space, controls inventory and promotions,

asr-000230
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: and then competes against the supplier with its own product.

asr-000231
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Nangyayari po ito.

asr-000232
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: At what point does this become a competition concern?

asr-000233
00:22:54.060 --> 00:22:55.840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or when does it become?

asr-000234
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Inaanalyze po ba natin when it becomes predatory in practice?

asr-000240
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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC is closely monitoring that's happening and a thorough investigation will be conducted.

asr-000241
00:23:32.040 --> 00:23:42.360
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron na po ba kayong nakitang mga ganito? And were there complaints, for example, that were filed with the PCC that was actually investigated upon?

asr-000242
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:43.600
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: There were minor complaints.

asr-000243
00:23:44.900 --> 00:23:51.760
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And what intervention, Mr. Chair and distinguished colleague, ang ginawa po ng PCC?

asr-000244
00:23:52.340 --> 00:24:03.160
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: There were minor complaints but it was given an attention and it was informed to the manufacturer.

asr-000245
00:24:04.600 --> 00:24:09.320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, meron po ba tayong portal na pwedeng magreklamo ang, let's say, SMEs?

asr-000246
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:12.440
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We can use the website.

asr-000247
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.200
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Of the PCC and the social media.

asr-000248
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:32.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And is it very easy to file a complaint? And once an SME, for example, files a complaint against any predatory practice, ganong katagal ang response time?

asr-000249
00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:42.500
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, pwedeng madali ang mag-file ng complaint kasi pwede sa online at sa Facebook page ng PCC.

asr-000250
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:46.720
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Kaya ganon, kadali ang pag-file, may investigation kagad.

asr-000251
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:51.560
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, distinguished colleague, let me give a practical example.

asr-000252
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung may independent brand na successful, then the retailer comes out with a very similar own brand product at a lower price.

asr-000253
00:25:02.100 --> 00:25:07.680
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos yung sariling brand niya, prominently displayed and readily available sa counter.

asr-000254
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:11.680
Rep. Roberto Nazal: While yung competing product, wala doon, kailangan magbayad.

asr-000255
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.640
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tapos yung staff, kailangan pang umalas para kunin.

asr-000256
00:25:16.460 --> 00:25:19.900
Rep. Roberto Nazal: The retailer controls both the competition and the playing field.

asr-000257
00:25:20.820 --> 00:25:23.700
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Does the PCC examine practices like this?

asr-000258
00:25:27.300 --> 00:25:28.440
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, yes.

asr-000259
00:25:31.760 --> 00:25:35.020
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: That's called self-preferencing.

asr-000260
00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:41.680
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ano pong actions ang pwede natin gawin in case meron tayong nahuhuling ganito?

asr-000261
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:52.500
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What intervention can the PCC do in behalf of those experiencing predatory practices?

asr-000262
00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:59.180
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC can file a case against the retailer.

asr-000263
00:26:00.420 --> 00:26:03.880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What if the retailer po is a giant?

asr-000264
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Malakas, ha?

asr-000265
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And pwede po niyang balikan kasi yung halimbawa, pwede niyang balikan yung SME.

asr-000266
00:26:19.020 --> 00:26:27.920
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And if there are only a few retailers in the country, paano po ang mangyayari kung ang gagawin niya,

asr-000267
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:33.280
Rep. Roberto Nazal: ang magiging balik niya doon sa nagreklamo, ay ibabanan niya sa shelf?

asr-000268
00:26:33.780 --> 00:26:41.900
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: The PCC is mandated. May mandato ang PCC na kahit malaking tao man lang, kahit gaano kalaki, pwedeng sagasaan.

asr-000269
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And the PCC?

asr-000270
00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:47.700
Rep. Roberto Nazal: The PCC guarantees that it can protect small players against practices such as this.

asr-000271
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:48.800
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Definitely.

asr-000272
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Mr. Chair, distinguished sponsor.

asr-000273
00:26:54.180 --> 00:27:05.820
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, has PCC ever conducted a market study comparing how major retailers treat their own private label products versus competing independent brands?

asr-000274
00:27:07.080 --> 00:27:10.880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: In shelf and counter placement, inventory availability,

asr-000275
00:27:11.620 --> 00:27:11.880
Rep. Roberto Nazal: promotion,

asr-000276
00:27:12.500 --> 00:27:15.260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: access to sales data,

asr-000277
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:16.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: pricing,

asr-000278
00:27:16.900 --> 00:27:17.720
Rep. Roberto Nazal: supplier fees,

asr-000279
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:18.500
Rep. Roberto Nazal: payment terms,

asr-000280
00:27:18.620 --> 00:27:19.520
Rep. Roberto Nazal: and other conditions.

asr-000281
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: Because ang concern po natin is not simply that they copied the product or made something cheaper.

asr-000282
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:33.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: The concern is whether a powerful retailer can identify a successful product from one of its suppliers,

asr-000283
00:27:34.800 --> 00:27:36.580
Rep. Roberto Nazal: introduce its own competing version,

asr-000284
00:27:36.580 --> 00:27:42.180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: and then use its control of the retail channel to give its own product.

asr-000285
00:27:42.500 --> 00:27:47.260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: An unfair advantage, and eventually squeeze the independent supplier out.

asr-000286
00:27:48.260 --> 00:27:53.040
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Does our present competition framework adequately protect against that?

asr-000287
00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:54.040
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you very much.

asr-000288
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:08.880
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Wala pang public study, but we had compelled a very big retailer to be fair.

asr-000289
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ano pong kailangan na?

asr-000290
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:18.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Is there anything you need, for example, from Congress in terms of amending your charter, strengthening it?

asr-000291
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:29.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Meron po ba tayo naiisip na mga pwede natin baguhin para po palakasin at bigyan ng pangil ang Philippine Competition Commission

asr-000292
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: para po lalo natin maprotektahan ang ating mga maliliit na nag-uumpisang maghanap buhay?

asr-000297
00:28:39.180 --> 00:28:42.180
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: There is a pending bill on the committee.

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00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.680
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: On economic affairs, I think.

asr-000299
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Rep. Dante S. Garcia: And the PCC is closely working with the committee.

asr-000300
00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:56.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I would like to co-author that, Mr. Chair, and the distinguished sponsor.

asr-000301
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:03.000
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, is PCC looking at the same gatekeeper problem in online platforms

asr-000302
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:09.500
Rep. Roberto Nazal: where the operator of the marketplace may also sell or promote products that compete with merchants

asr-000303
00:29:09.500 --> 00:29:12.180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: dependent on that marketplace?

asr-000304
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:19.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What safeguards does PCC consider necessary when the platform or retailer controls both

asr-000305
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: access to customer and the competitive environment?

asr-000306
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:29.200
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Para sa online naman po ito, distinguished sponsor.

asr-000307
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:34.200
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, we are looking to it.

asr-000308
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:38.930
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: And in terms of safeguarding the…

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00:29:51.970 --> 00:29:54.450
Rep. Roberto Nazal: [unclear]

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00:30:02.350 --> 00:30:17.860
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We are closely monitoring the market, and if there is a violation, we are bound to file a complaint.

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00:30:18.010 --> 00:30:34.100
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kaya ako po tinatanong ito, Distinguished Sponsor, Mr. Speaker. Kasi po, ang napansin ko, noon, lalo na nung pandemic, naging advantage po ngayon yung online retailers.

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00:30:34.140 --> 00:30:46.160
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So yung online platforms were helping yung ating maliliit na negosyante. Parang ang lumalabas ngayon, yung ating mga retailers, giant retailers,

asr-000326
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:56.420
Rep. Roberto Nazal: tsaka yung online at digital platforms are already charging, if not the same, yung ating digital platforms are charging even more.

asr-000327
00:30:57.620 --> 00:31:03.080
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ang gusto ko po sanang alamin is kung natitignan po natin yung charges na sinisingil nila.

asr-000328
00:31:03.220 --> 00:31:14.680
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi if you will ask and do conduct a study or maybe an online survey, tanungin nyo po yung mga nagbibenta online.

asr-000329
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:20.060
Rep. Roberto Nazal: The digital platforms are now charging maybe up to 60%.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: And parang ang nangyayari, kung 100 pesos yung binibenta mo, 60 pesos na yung kinukuha nila, minsan 70 pesos pa.

asr-000331
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ang matitira sa'yo, 30 pesos, kukunin mo pa dun yung cost mo.

asr-000332
00:31:35.060 --> 00:31:43.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So my concern is the PCC looking into that. Kasi po, dapat ho, I think it's about time that we monitor this.

asr-000333
00:31:43.020 --> 00:31:45.620
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi kung ano-anong charges ang nilalagay nila.

asr-000334
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:56.020
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We have looked into the digital platforms but not into that specific issue but we will see it now.

asr-000335
00:31:56.340 --> 00:31:57.920
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor.

asr-000336
00:31:58.740 --> 00:32:12.960
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, Distinguished Sponsor, have you also studied the competition implications when a conglomerate owns both a bank and businesses in sectors heavily dependent on financing such as real estate?

asr-000337
00:32:13.020 --> 00:32:26.180
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Even if related party lending complies with banking regulations, can preferential access to financing reinforce market power in the conglomerate's non-banking business?

asr-000338
00:32:26.980 --> 00:32:31.380
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And has PCC studied this as a structural competition issue?

asr-000339
00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:42.840
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Ang tinatanong ko po ay yung possible whether PCC studies cross-sector competitive effects.

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00:32:43.020 --> 00:32:45.260
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, we have.

asr-000341
00:32:45.860 --> 00:32:47.980
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So you're already looking into that, Mr. Chair?

asr-000342
00:32:49.300 --> 00:32:51.540
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Distinguished Sponsor, the PCC?

asr-000343
00:32:51.540 --> 00:32:52.180
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, we have.

asr-000344
00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:59.800
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So meron na po ba kayong nakita na, for example, industry na because of this, nagkakaroon ng unfair advantage?

asr-000345
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:09.140
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And if this is so, what is the, ano po ang gagawin ng PCC in order to help level the playing field?

asr-000346
00:33:13.020 --> 00:33:20.900
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: So far, wala pang nakikitang ganyan. Pero pag meron, rest assured na maaksyonan kagalit.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: So baka po pwede natin tignan, maybe we can use AI to look into this kung ano po yung mga possible effects.

asr-000348
00:33:28.800 --> 00:33:31.900
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kasi siyempre, magkakaroon po ng unfair advantage, di ba?

asr-000349
00:33:34.100 --> 00:33:42.900
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair, Distinguished Colleague, the PCC's proposed 2027 budget is approximately 832 million.

asr-000350
00:33:43.020 --> 00:33:47.460
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Including funding for competition, capacity building.

asr-000351
00:33:48.900 --> 00:33:54.220
Rep. Roberto Nazal: What concrete sector reviews and enforcement milestones will this funding deliver?

asr-000352
00:33:55.060 --> 00:34:01.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Particularly for retail, digital platforms, and other highly concentrated markets.

asr-000353
00:34:01.780 --> 00:34:10.260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Will the PCC use its own investigative authority proactively rather than require small businesses to initiate every case?

asr-000354
00:34:10.600 --> 00:34:12.540
Rep. Roberto Nazal: So ang tinatanong po natin is,

asr-000355
00:34:13.020 --> 00:34:20.320
Rep. Roberto Nazal: mag-aantay pa po ba tayo ng mga complaint bago tayong makagalaw?

asr-000356
00:34:20.420 --> 00:34:25.660
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Or will we proactively seek measures which will protect small businesses?

asr-000357
00:34:37.860 --> 00:34:42.420
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: We actively monitor the social medias.

asr-000358
00:34:43.020 --> 00:34:49.180
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: And any complaint, and we will immediately act on this matter.

asr-000359
00:34:49.540 --> 00:34:52.300
Rep. Roberto Nazal: May I request for a plan?

asr-000360
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Kung ano, how do you intend to spend the 832 million?

asr-000361
00:34:57.860 --> 00:35:07.020
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And ano po yung safeguards na pwede na, safeguards that you plan to impose?

asr-000362
00:35:07.020 --> 00:35:10.740
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Plan sector studies, measurable outputs.

asr-000363
00:35:11.860 --> 00:35:12.860
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And how SMEs?

asr-000364
00:35:13.020 --> 00:35:18.900
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And suppliers can safely provide market information without fear of commercial retaliation?

asr-000365
00:35:20.540 --> 00:35:22.680
Rep. Dante S. Garcia: Yes, Your Honor, we will provide you a copy.

asr-000366
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Rep. Roberto Nazal: So, I'm, that's all for all, para sa mga tanong ko.

asr-000367
00:35:34.560 --> 00:35:35.920
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Maraming salamat sa PCC.

asr-000368
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:42.220
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And I hope the PCC will proactively craft,

asr-000369
00:35:43.020 --> 00:35:51.380
Rep. Roberto Nazal: proactively craft measures na makakatulong po at makakaprotekta po sa ating maliliit na naghahanap buhay.

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00:35:51.540 --> 00:35:52.260
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Maraming salamat po.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Nazal.

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00:35:55.100 --> 00:35:59.220
Rep. Roberto Nazal: In behalf of the minority, I would like to terminate.

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00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:01.120
Rep. Roberto Nazal: Tama ba?

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00:36:03.640 --> 00:36:04.140
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I move.

asr-000376
00:36:04.260 --> 00:36:05.760
Rep. Roberto Nazal: I sorry, I move to terminate.

asr-000377
00:36:07.100 --> 00:36:09.760
Rep. Roberto Nazal: The period of sponsorship.

asr-000378
00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:12.760
Rep. Roberto Nazal: And amendment for the PCC.

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Rep. Roberto Nazal: PCC, for the, for the budget of the PCC.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say?

asr-000381
00:36:20.600 --> 00:36:32.940
Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion of terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the PCC.

asr-000383
00:36:34.560 --> 00:36:41.940
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission.

asr-000384
00:36:43.020 --> 00:36:44.340
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

asr-000385
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:46.180
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The chair hears none.

asr-000386
00:36:47.060 --> 00:36:53.400
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Competition Commission is hereby terminated.

asr-000387
00:36:55.660 --> 00:36:56.500
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority leader.

asr-000388
00:37:04.740 --> 00:37:07.900
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba and Tublay Development Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Metropolitan Baguio City, Assistant Secretary Maria Monica C. Costales, and Director Mary Gail Antonia Kila.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority,

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00:39:52.020 --> 00:39:57.840
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: represented by the Honorable ASEC, Maria Monica C. Costales, Ph.D.,

asr-000403
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:00.160
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House of Representatives.

asr-000404
00:40:00.700 --> 00:40:01.420
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000405
00:40:02.160 --> 00:40:12.100
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable

asr-000406
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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Vice Chairman Maria Angela Garcia of the Committee on Appropriations

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to sponsor the proposed budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Vice Chair, Maria Angela Garcia of the Province of Bataan is recognized.

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00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:34.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations, I have the privilege of sponsoring the Fiscal Year 2027

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: budget of the Metropolitan Baguio City, La Trinidad, Itogon, Sablan, Tuba, and Tublay Development Authority, or MBLISDA.

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Together with ASEC, Maria Monica C. Costales, and the MBLISDA family, we are ready to answer questions during this interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you Honorable Garcia. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Thank you.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: that we recognize

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Representative Presley De Jesus

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00:41:18.140 --> 00:41:19.340
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: from

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: PHILRECA Party-list

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus

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00:41:25.820 --> 00:41:27.160
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Party-list PHILRECA,

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized.

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00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:28.580
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

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00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:35.480
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And to the distinguished sponsor,

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00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:36.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members

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00:41:39.380 --> 00:41:40.700
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority

asr-000437
00:41:40.700 --> 00:41:42.160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpellate,

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00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:43.840
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate

asr-000439
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:44.500
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the sponsorship

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00:41:44.500 --> 00:41:45.540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate

asr-000441
00:41:45.540 --> 00:41:46.360
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget

asr-000442
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:47.160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Metropolitan,

asr-000443
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:49.100
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Baguio City,

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00:41:49.620 --> 00:41:50.380
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: La Trinidad,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Itogon,

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00:41:51.620 --> 00:41:52.160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sablan,

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00:41:52.740 --> 00:41:53.020
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Tuba,

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00:41:53.420 --> 00:41:55.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and Tublay Development Authority.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say?

asr-000452
00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:00.520
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader?

asr-000453
00:42:01.060 --> 00:42:01.600
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part of the majority,

asr-000455
00:42:03.220 --> 00:42:04.340
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority

asr-000456
00:42:04.340 --> 00:42:05.120
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: in the motion

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00:42:05.120 --> 00:42:06.420
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate the period

asr-000458
00:42:06.420 --> 00:42:07.420
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of interpellation

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00:42:07.420 --> 00:42:09.300
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the proposed budget.

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00:42:09.900 --> 00:42:11.840
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion

asr-000461
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:12.140
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: to terminate

asr-000462
00:42:12.140 --> 00:42:13.920
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the interpellations

asr-000463
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:15.080
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget

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00:42:15.080 --> 00:42:16.680
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Metropolitan,

asr-000465
00:42:16.980 --> 00:42:17.640
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Baguio City,

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00:42:17.780 --> 00:42:18.340
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: La Trinidad,

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00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:18.900
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Itogon,

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00:42:19.060 --> 00:42:19.420
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Sablan,

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00:42:19.520 --> 00:42:19.760
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Tuba,

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00:42:20.380 --> 00:42:22.140
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Tublay Development Authority.

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00:42:23.380 --> 00:42:24.500
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

asr-000472
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:26.320
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

asr-000473
00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:28.400
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellation

asr-000474
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:29.780
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the proposed budget

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00:42:29.780 --> 00:42:31.120
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Metropolitan,

asr-000476
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:32.060
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Baguio City,

asr-000477
00:42:32.200 --> 00:42:32.660
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: La Trinidad,

asr-000478
00:42:32.860 --> 00:42:33.280
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Itogon,

asr-000479
00:42:33.420 --> 00:42:33.760
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Sablan,

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00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:34.060
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Tuba,

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00:42:34.460 --> 00:42:36.120
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Tublay Development Authority

asr-000482
00:42:36.120 --> 00:42:37.840
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated.

asr-000483
00:42:38.540 --> 00:42:39.180
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations.

asr-000484
00:42:39.940 --> 00:42:40.580
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000485
00:43:11.710 --> 00:43:12.760
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000486
00:43:13.200 --> 00:43:14.600
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move to consider

asr-000487
00:43:14.600 --> 00:43:15.740
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the proposed budget

asr-000488
00:43:15.740 --> 00:43:16.720
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Authority

asr-000489
00:43:16.720 --> 00:43:17.800
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Freeport Area

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00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:18.440
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of Bataan.

asr-000491
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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

asr-000492
00:43:21.520 --> 00:43:22.300
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

asr-000493
00:43:22.560 --> 00:43:23.300
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved.

asr-000494
00:43:23.740 --> 00:43:24.360
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000495
00:43:26.340 --> 00:43:27.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we

asr-000497
00:43:28.660 --> 00:43:30.100
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: acknowledge the heads

asr-000498
00:43:30.100 --> 00:43:30.780
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: and the officials

asr-000499
00:43:30.780 --> 00:43:31.640
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Authority

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00:43:31.640 --> 00:43:33.380
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of Freeport Area Bataan,

asr-000501
00:43:34.340 --> 00:43:36.280
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Administrator and CEO

asr-000502
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.280
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Muhammad Hussein Pangandaman,

asr-000503
00:43:39.620 --> 00:43:40.140
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Deputy Administrator

asr-000504
00:43:40.900 --> 00:43:41.920
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for Support Services,

asr-000505
00:43:42.140 --> 00:43:43.960
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Maria Lourdes Herrera,

asr-000506
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:45.740
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Deputy Administrator

asr-000507
00:43:45.740 --> 00:43:47.360
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for Operations,

asr-000508
00:43:47.860 --> 00:43:50.960
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Michael Angelo Padiraga.

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00:43:51.780 --> 00:43:52.820
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: So move, Mr. Speaker.

asr-000510
00:43:53.100 --> 00:43:54.080
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family

asr-000511
00:43:54.080 --> 00:43:55.060
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Authority

asr-000512
00:43:55.060 --> 00:43:56.760
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Freeport Area of Bataan,

asr-000513
00:43:57.300 --> 00:43:58.680
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: led by Administrator

asr-000514
00:43:58.680 --> 00:44:00.280
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Chief Executive Officer,

asr-000515
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.020
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Muhammad Hussein P. Pangandaman,

asr-000516
00:44:03.380 --> 00:44:04.220
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House

asr-000517
00:44:04.220 --> 00:44:05.020
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Representatives.

asr-000518
00:44:05.860 --> 00:44:06.500
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000519
00:44:06.900 --> 00:44:07.540
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000520
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:09.340
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize

asr-000521
00:44:09.340 --> 00:44:12.060
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Maria Angela

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00:44:12.060 --> 00:44:12.830
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Garcia,

asr-000523
00:44:13.290 --> 00:44:14.200
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Vice Chairperson

asr-000524
00:44:14.200 --> 00:44:14.880
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Committee

asr-000525
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:15.740
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on Appropriations

asr-000526
00:44:15.740 --> 00:44:17.000
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: to sponsor the proposed

asr-000527
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:18.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: budget of the Authority

asr-000528
00:44:18.660 --> 00:44:19.700
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Freeport Area

asr-000529
00:44:19.700 --> 00:44:20.260
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of Bataan.

asr-000530
00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:22.500
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Vice Chairperson

asr-000531
00:44:22.500 --> 00:44:23.360
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Committee

asr-000532
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:24.160
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on Appropriations,

asr-000533
00:44:25.460 --> 00:44:26.780
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Maria Angela Garcia,

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00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:27.580
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized.

asr-000535
00:44:27.900 --> 00:44:28.500
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

asr-000536
00:44:29.260 --> 00:44:30.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

asr-000537
00:44:31.120 --> 00:44:32.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: On behalf of the Committee

asr-000538
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:33.380
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: on Appropriations,

asr-000539
00:44:34.220 --> 00:44:35.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: I have the privilege

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00:44:35.100 --> 00:44:35.980
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of sponsoring

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00:44:35.980 --> 00:44:37.300
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: the proposed

asr-000542
00:44:37.300 --> 00:44:39.560
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: fiscal year 2027 budget

asr-000543
00:44:39.560 --> 00:44:40.960
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of the Authority

asr-000544
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.140
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of the Freeport Area of Bataan.

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00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:45.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Together with Administrator

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00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Muhammad Hussein P. Pangandaman

asr-000552
00:44:47.680 --> 00:44:49.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: and the AFAB family,

asr-000553
00:44:49.780 --> 00:44:51.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: we are ready to answer questions

asr-000554
00:44:51.640 --> 00:44:53.200
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: during this interpellation.

asr-000555
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:54.940
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Garcia.

asr-000556
00:44:55.220 --> 00:44:55.880
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000557
00:44:56.680 --> 00:44:57.280
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000558
00:44:57.500 --> 00:44:58.580
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize

asr-000559
00:44:58.580 --> 00:44:59.640
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Presley

asr-000560
00:44:59.640 --> 00:45:00.200
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: De Jesus

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00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:01.000
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for his interpellation.

asr-000562
00:45:01.820 --> 00:45:04.220
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Representative

asr-000563
00:45:04.220 --> 00:45:05.860
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Presley De Jesus of Party-list

asr-000564
00:45:05.860 --> 00:45:08.200
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: PHILRECA is recognized. Please proceed.

asr-000565
00:45:10.040 --> 00:45:10.900
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000566
00:45:11.300 --> 00:45:12.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Distinguished Sponsor,

asr-000567
00:45:13.520 --> 00:45:14.420
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more

asr-000568
00:45:14.420 --> 00:45:16.580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: members of the minority

asr-000569
00:45:16.580 --> 00:45:18.120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to

asr-000570
00:45:18.120 --> 00:45:20.040
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: interpellate, I move

asr-000571
00:45:20.040 --> 00:45:21.760
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to terminate the sponsorship

asr-000572
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:23.600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate for the budget

asr-000573
00:45:23.600 --> 00:45:25.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of authority of the

asr-000574
00:45:25.460 --> 00:45:27.980
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Freeport Area of Bataan.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say?

asr-000578
00:45:34.340 --> 00:45:35.040
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader?

asr-000579
00:45:35.580 --> 00:45:37.740
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority,

asr-000580
00:45:38.100 --> 00:45:39.800
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: we join the minority in the motion

asr-000581
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:41.740
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: to terminate the period of interpellations

asr-000582
00:45:41.740 --> 00:45:43.860
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on the proposed budget of the authority

asr-000583
00:45:43.860 --> 00:45:45.500
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Freeport Area of Bataan.

asr-000584
00:45:46.140 --> 00:45:48.100
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion to terminate

asr-000585
00:45:48.100 --> 00:45:50.060
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the interpellations on the proposed budget

asr-000586
00:45:50.060 --> 00:45:52.200
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Authority of the Freeport

asr-000587
00:45:52.200 --> 00:45:53.100
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: area of Bataan.

asr-000588
00:45:53.820 --> 00:45:54.780
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

asr-000589
00:45:55.140 --> 00:45:56.440
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

asr-000590
00:45:57.040 --> 00:45:57.960
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations on

asr-000591
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.180
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the proposed budget of the authority

asr-000592
00:46:00.180 --> 00:46:01.860
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Freeport Area of Bataan

asr-000593
00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:03.240
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated.

asr-000594
00:46:04.020 --> 00:46:04.660
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations.

asr-000595
00:46:05.660 --> 00:46:06.300
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000596
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.100
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget

asr-000597
00:46:10.100 --> 00:46:12.400
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000598
00:46:13.220 --> 00:46:14.700
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

asr-000599
00:46:15.680 --> 00:46:16.680
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

asr-000600
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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved.

asr-000601
00:46:19.740 --> 00:46:20.500
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000602
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:22.560
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge

asr-000603
00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:23.980
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the heads and officials

asr-000604
00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:27.320
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority,

asr-000605
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:27.920
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: namely,

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00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:29.840
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Administrator and CEO,

asr-000607
00:46:30.020 --> 00:46:32.580
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile,

asr-000608
00:46:32.820 --> 00:46:35.420
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and Deputy Administrator

asr-000609
00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:37.120
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: for Support Services,

asr-000610
00:46:37.300 --> 00:46:39.600
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Perla C. Tumaliuan.

asr-000611
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:42.200
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family

asr-000612
00:46:42.200 --> 00:46:44.960
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority,

asr-000613
00:46:45.980 --> 00:46:47.660
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: headed by Administrator

asr-000614
00:46:47.660 --> 00:46:49.300
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Chief Executive Officer,

asr-000615
00:46:49.900 --> 00:46:52.100
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile,

asr-000616
00:46:52.680 --> 00:46:53.960
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House of Representatives.

asr-000617
00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:55.820
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000618
00:46:56.500 --> 00:46:57.100
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000619
00:46:57.100 --> 00:46:57.940
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move

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00:46:57.960 --> 00:46:58.940
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: that we recognize

asr-000621
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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Vice Chair,

asr-000622
00:47:02.580 --> 00:47:04.260
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Maria Angela Garcia,

asr-000623
00:47:05.560 --> 00:47:06.460
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Committee

asr-000624
00:47:06.460 --> 00:47:09.080
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of Appropriations

asr-000625
00:47:09.080 --> 00:47:10.680
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to sponsor the proposed budget

asr-000626
00:47:10.680 --> 00:47:13.460
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000627
00:47:14.460 --> 00:47:16.260
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Vice Chairperson

asr-000628
00:47:16.260 --> 00:47:18.140
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Appropriations Committee,

asr-000629
00:47:19.660 --> 00:47:22.080
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Representative Maria Angela Garcia,

asr-000630
00:47:22.240 --> 00:47:22.820
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized.

asr-000631
00:47:23.160 --> 00:47:23.740
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

asr-000632
00:47:24.460 --> 00:47:25.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

asr-000633
00:47:25.640 --> 00:47:27.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations,

asr-000634
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: I have the privilege of sponsoring

asr-000635
00:47:30.720 --> 00:47:33.760
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: the Fiscal Year 2027 Budget

asr-000636
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of the Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000637
00:47:37.460 --> 00:47:40.300
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Together with Secretary Katrina Ponce-Enrile

asr-000638
00:47:40.300 --> 00:47:42.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: and the CEZA family,

asr-000639
00:47:42.580 --> 00:47:44.460
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: we are ready to answer questions

asr-000640
00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:45.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: during this interpellation.

asr-000641
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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Garcia.

asr-000642
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:48.920
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000643
00:47:49.580 --> 00:47:50.060
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000644
00:47:50.500 --> 00:47:52.100
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move that we recognize

asr-000645
00:47:52.100 --> 00:47:54.840
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Presley De Jesus.

asr-000646
00:47:56.060 --> 00:47:57.540
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus,

asr-000650
00:47:58.480 --> 00:47:59.500
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized.

asr-000651
00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:00.430
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

asr-000652
00:48:01.740 --> 00:48:02.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000653
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members

asr-000654
00:48:04.580 --> 00:48:06.280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority

asr-000655
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpellate.

asr-000656
00:48:08.860 --> 00:48:10.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate the sponsorship

asr-000657
00:48:10.620 --> 00:48:12.580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate for the budget

asr-000658
00:48:12.580 --> 00:48:14.820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000659
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:16.700
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Mr. Speaker.

asr-000660
00:48:17.220 --> 00:48:18.660
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say?

asr-000661
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:19.600
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000662
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:20.560
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000663
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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part of the majority,

asr-000664
00:48:22.100 --> 00:48:23.920
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority in the motion

asr-000665
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.260
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate the period of interpellations

asr-000666
00:48:26.260 --> 00:48:28.740
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the proposed budget

asr-000667
00:48:31.170 --> 00:48:33.300
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000668
00:48:33.500 --> 00:48:34.860
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion

asr-000669
00:48:34.860 --> 00:48:36.820
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: to terminate the interpellations

asr-000670
00:48:36.820 --> 00:48:37.860
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget

asr-000671
00:48:37.860 --> 00:48:40.480
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000672
00:48:41.100 --> 00:48:42.120
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

asr-000673
00:48:43.120 --> 00:48:43.980
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The chair hears none.

asr-000674
00:48:44.620 --> 00:48:45.480
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations

asr-000675
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:46.580
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget

asr-000676
00:48:46.580 --> 00:48:49.020
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Cagayan Economic Zone Authority

asr-000677
00:48:49.020 --> 00:48:50.600
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated.

asr-000678
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:52.080
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations.

asr-000679
00:48:53.100 --> 00:48:53.760
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000680
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:55.000
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000681
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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move to consider

asr-000682
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:57.400
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the proposed budget

asr-000683
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:57.800
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the...

asr-000684
00:48:57.820 --> 00:48:58.960
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Zamboanga City

asr-000685
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.980
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Special Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000686
00:49:01.860 --> 00:49:03.180
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

asr-000687
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:04.760
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

asr-000688
00:49:04.980 --> 00:49:05.680
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved.

asr-000689
00:49:06.100 --> 00:49:06.720
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000690
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:08.620
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000691
00:49:09.040 --> 00:49:09.780
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: may we acknowledge

asr-000692
00:49:09.780 --> 00:49:11.140
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the heads and the officials

asr-000693
00:49:11.140 --> 00:49:13.440
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Zamboanga City

asr-000694
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:15.080
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Special Economic Zone Authority,

asr-000695
00:49:15.420 --> 00:49:17.080
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Chairman and Administrator

asr-000696
00:49:17.080 --> 00:49:19.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Raul Regondola,

asr-000697
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.260
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Board Member Rey Bayoging,

asr-000698
00:49:22.540 --> 00:49:23.560
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Deputy Administrator

asr-000699
00:49:23.560 --> 00:49:24.820
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Planning and Operations

asr-000700
00:49:24.820 --> 00:49:26.040
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Reynold Pareja,

asr-000701
00:49:26.500 --> 00:49:27.800
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: OIC Deputy Administrator

asr-000702
00:49:27.820 --> 00:49:29.820
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for the Support Services,

asr-000703
00:49:29.820 --> 00:49:32.820
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Ronald Aca-ac,

asr-000704
00:49:32.820 --> 00:49:34.580
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: OIC Department Manager

asr-000705
00:49:34.580 --> 00:49:35.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for Finance,

asr-000706
00:49:35.460 --> 00:49:37.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Bennett Mandiadi.

asr-000707
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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I so move, Mr. Speaker.

asr-000708
00:49:39.460 --> 00:49:41.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Zamboanga

asr-000709
00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:44.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: City Special Economic Zone Authority,

asr-000710
00:49:44.460 --> 00:49:46.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: headed by Chairman and Administrator

asr-000711
00:49:46.460 --> 00:49:49.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Raul M. Regondola,

asr-000712
00:49:49.460 --> 00:49:50.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House

asr-000713
00:49:50.460 --> 00:49:51.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Representatives.

asr-000714
00:49:51.460 --> 00:49:52.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000715
00:49:52.460 --> 00:49:53.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000716
00:49:53.460 --> 00:49:54.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize

asr-000717
00:49:54.460 --> 00:49:55.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the honorable

asr-000718
00:49:55.460 --> 00:49:57.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Bella Vanessa Suansing,

asr-000719
00:49:57.660 --> 00:49:59.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Vice Chairperson of the

asr-000720
00:49:59.660 --> 00:50:00.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Committee on Appropriations

asr-000721
00:50:00.660 --> 00:50:01.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: to sponsor the proposed

asr-000722
00:50:01.660 --> 00:50:03.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: budget of the Zamboanga City

asr-000723
00:50:03.660 --> 00:50:05.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Special Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000724
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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Bella Suansing

asr-000725
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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized.

asr-000726
00:50:08.660 --> 00:50:09.940
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

asr-000727
00:50:10.260 --> 00:50:11.320
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

asr-000728
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.230
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This presentation is ready

asr-000729
00:50:13.230 --> 00:50:15.070
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to answer questions regarding

asr-000730
00:50:15.070 --> 00:50:16.000
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the proposed budget of

asr-000731
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Zamboanga City Special Economic

asr-000732
00:50:17.080 --> 00:50:18.910
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Zone Authority in Freeport.

asr-000733
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

asr-000734
00:50:19.690 --> 00:50:21.200
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Suansing.

asr-000735
00:50:21.200 --> 00:50:22.160
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000736
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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000737
00:50:22.660 --> 00:50:23.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize

asr-000738
00:50:23.660 --> 00:50:25.660
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Presley De Jesus.

asr-000739
00:50:26.660 --> 00:50:27.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable

asr-000740
00:50:27.460 --> 00:50:29.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Presley C. De Jesus

asr-000741
00:50:29.460 --> 00:50:30.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Party-list PHILRECA

asr-000742
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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized.

asr-000743
00:50:31.460 --> 00:50:32.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

asr-000744
00:50:32.460 --> 00:50:34.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000745
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more

asr-000746
00:50:35.460 --> 00:50:37.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: members of the minority

asr-000747
00:50:37.460 --> 00:50:39.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpolate,

asr-000748
00:50:39.460 --> 00:50:40.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate

asr-000749
00:50:40.460 --> 00:50:41.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the sponsorship

asr-000750
00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:42.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate

asr-000751
00:50:42.460 --> 00:50:43.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget

asr-000752
00:50:43.460 --> 00:50:44.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Zamboanga City

asr-000753
00:50:44.460 --> 00:50:46.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Special Economic Zone Authority.

asr-000754
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move,

asr-000755
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker.

asr-000756
00:50:48.460 --> 00:50:49.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say?

asr-000757
00:50:49.460 --> 00:50:50.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-000758
00:50:50.460 --> 00:50:51.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker,

asr-000759
00:50:51.460 --> 00:50:53.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on the part of the majority,

asr-000760
00:50:53.460 --> 00:50:54.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: we join the minority

asr-000761
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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: in the motion

asr-000762
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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: to terminate the period

asr-000763
00:50:56.460 --> 00:50:57.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of interpellations

asr-000764
00:50:57.460 --> 00:50:58.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: on the proposed budget

asr-000765
00:50:58.460 --> 00:50:59.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Zamboanga City

asr-000766
00:50:59.460 --> 00:51:02.460
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Special Economic Zone Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: to terminate the interpellations

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Zamboanga City

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Special Economic Zone Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: on the proposed budget

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Zamboanga City

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Special Economic Zone Authority

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to consider

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the proposed budget

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00:51:29.460 --> 00:51:30.460
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Southern Philippines

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00:51:30.460 --> 00:51:32.460
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Development Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: may we acknowledge

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the heads and officials

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Southern Philippines

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Development Authority,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Vice Chairman

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Honorable Ahmad Tumawis,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and Mr. Agakhan Tumawis.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Southern Philippines

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Development Authority,

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: headed by Administrator

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and Chief Executive Officer,

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the Honorable Ahmad M. Tumawis,

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: welcome to the House

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Representatives.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move that we recognize

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Vice Chair

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Bella Vanessa B. Suansing

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Committee

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on Appropriation

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to sponsor the proposed budget

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00:52:26.460 --> 00:52:27.460
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Southern Philippines

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Development Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This representation is ready

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to answer questions

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: regarding the proposed budget

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the Southern Philippines

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Development Authority.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you,

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Honorable Swansing.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move that we recognize

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the Honorable Presley De Jesus

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: PHILRECA,

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there being no more members

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of the minority

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: who wishes to interpolate,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the sponsorship

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and debate

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00:53:10.700 --> 00:53:11.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for the budget

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00:53:11.860 --> 00:53:13.180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of Southern Philippines

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Development Authority.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say?

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the majority,

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: in the motion

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the period of interpellations

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the proposed budget

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00:53:28.460 --> 00:53:31.460
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of the Southern Philippines

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Development Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: a joint motion

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: to terminate

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: the interpellations

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: in the proposed budget

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00:53:37.460 --> 00:53:38.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of the Southern Philippines

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Development Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Motion is approved.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations

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00:53:45.460 --> 00:53:46.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: and the proposed budget

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00:53:46.460 --> 00:53:48.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Southern Philippines

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00:53:48.460 --> 00:53:49.460
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Development Authority

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCC.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and the officials of the Governance Commission for GOCC's Chairman Marius Corpus, Commissioner Brian Hosaka, Commissioner Geraldine Marie Martinez.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Governance Commission for GOCC's, headed by Chairperson Marius P. Corpus, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations to sponsor the budget of the Governance Commission for GOCC's.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Bella Vanessa Suansing.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This representation is ready to answer questions regarding the proposed budget of the Governance Commission on GOCC's. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Suansing. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we suspend session for a few minutes.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Partilis, Felrica is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, good evening.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Earlier this year, DBM issued Corporate Budget Memorandum No. 48 for the Fiscal Year 2027 Corporate Budget Call.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Under the policy, it was stated that the DBM should not be involved in corporate budget calls.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Under the policy, it was stated that a GOCC receiving 60% or more its funding from national government subsidies for the past 10 consecutive years is automatically flagged for mandatory institutional review for GOCCs covered by Republic Act No. 10149.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That review is to be conducted by GCG. Is this correct, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And my follow-up question, then under those parameters, how many GOCCs under GCG's jurisdiction currently meet the 60% subsidy for 10 years threshold?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The study is ongoing regarding the number, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Are we talking about 2026?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Or 2025, I mean? I'm sorry.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The GCG is just checking their records, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ...

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The GCG will just submit the list of GOCCs that satisfy their requirement, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That's okay with my distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Fair enough, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I gladly accept that.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My next question,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: have institutional reviews which are now mandated already commenced?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For every one of those GOCCs.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If not, what the timetables are we looking at?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Regarding the monitoring and evaluation of GOCCs, Mr. Speaker, the GCG currently conducts three.

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00:59:40.500 --> 00:59:41.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, three.

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00:59:42.040 --> 00:59:48.840
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: There's the performance evaluation system for GOCCs, and then there's the performance evaluation for directors in the GOCC sector.

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00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:54.020
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And then the GCG also produces corporate governance scorecards.

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00:59:54.020 --> 00:59:59.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But as per the finalization of the reports for fiscal year 2020,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the GCG is dependent on the submission of COA financial statement.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So as of now, review is still currently ongoing, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So do we expect that later this year or it's going to be next year?

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01:00:16.300 --> 01:00:17.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, later in this year, Mr. Speaker.

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01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:21.320
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many directors are, as you mentioned, that under review?

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01:00:22.240 --> 01:00:22.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: How many of them?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: For, Mr. Speaker, for clarification, director, total directors for all the GOCCs that are being reviewed, total.

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01:00:57.540 --> 01:00:59.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We're pulling up the actual number.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So estimated around, approximately around 500 directors, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

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01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:21.200
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, could the good sponsor provide the following information for the consideration of this body?

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01:01:21.680 --> 01:01:29.940
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The amount of national government support received by these GOCCs during the past 10 years, its performance, scorecard results,

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01:01:29.940 --> 01:01:34.100
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and the current status of GCG's institutional review.

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01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:46.940
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It's important because the new DBM policy says they are now subject to mandatory institutional review to be conducted by GCG.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi po, meron na pong DBM policy na bago ngayon.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, just to clarify, the first would be the amount of government support received by the GOCCs.

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01:01:58.080 --> 01:02:01.060
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: What's the second one, Mr. Speaker?

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01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:08.060
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: No, that's the question because I'm just interjecting that there's a new DBM policy.

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01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:16.520
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Now, they have to be subjected for mandatory institutional review to be conducted by GCG.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, sir. Government support.

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01:02:21.720 --> 01:02:28.060
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, sir. Government support.

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01:02:38.220 --> 01:02:43.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, the GCG is just pulling up the actual number.

asr-000955
01:02:43.540 --> 01:02:48.380
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, just an overall observation regarding the amount of government support,

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01:02:48.600 --> 01:02:56.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's been declining given that those GOCCs that previously needed government support are now improving in performance.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: According to GCG's classification as of June 30, 2026,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there are 21 corporations classified under abolition,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: meaning they are being considered for closure,

asr-000962
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: winding down or absorption into other government corporations.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: GCG was subsequently reported as saying that the Commission hopes to complete the liquidation of at least five of them within 2026.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is that still the target?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker, that is correct.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As of June 30, there are 21 GOCCs that have been abolished and under liquidation.

asr-000968
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And there's also...

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And there's also 11 that has been abolished and completed liquidation.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the number of GOCCs with terminal reports to be submitted to the Office of the President,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there are 11 for this year.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, this is your sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Without prejudice to the non-disclosure,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: may din nyo bangbanggitin kung sino mo ito or it's going under review pa rin?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Or if not, you can submit to this...

asr-000978
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to this body kung sino yung mga yon.

asr-000979
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If you think it's going to be a violation of any rules or guidelines under GCG.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Oh, sorry.

asr-000981
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: I stand corrected, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The number of abolished GOCCs pipeline for terminal report in 2026 is actually five.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah.

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01:04:54.500 --> 01:04:55.080
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But...

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01:04:55.080 --> 01:04:55.780
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But...

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's why I was mentioned a while ago that there are still five.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's why for my next question,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that means even five are completed this year.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: A significant number will still remain under abolition status.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: For how long has each of these 21 corporations been under abolition?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Um, Mr. Speaker, given the extensive process of settling the obligations and liabilities of those GOCCs

asr-001012
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Those GOCCs that are non-performing, as well as the fulfillment of compromise agreements, it's a lengthy period. As early as 2013, there are still GOCCs that are being processed. So, roughly around 13 years.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah, Mr. Speaker. For the information of everyone, GOCC stands for government-owned controlled corporation.

asr-001014
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right? And they're not asking subsidy or funding from our government, only GCG. Now, because my understanding, when you're a GOCC, you generate income. Am I right?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, how come those 5 or 21 you mentioned, Wilco, are winding down or for abolition? Ibig ho bang sabihin?

asr-001018
01:06:59.020 --> 01:07:03.880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Nalulugi, hindi sila kumikita, or part of downsizing talaga?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, based on the charter of the GCG and all of its guidelines, there are six qualifications for the recommendation of this positive action.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: One, the GOCC's function is no longer relevant to state or national development policy.

asr-001021
01:07:27.520 --> 01:07:28.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Second, it...

asr-001022
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:33.300
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's duplicate or unnecessarily overlaps with other government agencies.

asr-001023
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The third one, the GOCC is not producing desired outcomes or is no longer achieving its objectives, as stated.

asr-001024
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The fourth would be, the GOCC would be dormant or non-operational.

asr-001025
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The fifth would be, the GOCC would be involved in activities that is determined to be best carried out by a private sector firm.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And the sixth one would be, the GOCC's nature of operations would require consolidation under a holding company.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, those are the six qualifications for recommendation for abolition, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The number five, or I think number five, you mentioned number four, that is going to be sold to private.

asr-001029
01:08:16.820 --> 01:08:18.200
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is that what I understand?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Tama ba yun? Intindi ko?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Uh, there...

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01:08:23.060 --> 01:08:26.540
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay.

asr-001033
01:08:26.540 --> 01:08:26.620
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The fifth one, Mr. Speaker, the GCG assesses and sees if the activity in which the GOCC is involved would be best carried out by a private sector firm.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, when you say best carried out by a private firm, what does it mean?

asr-001036
01:08:54.260 --> 01:08:57.140
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Are we going to sell it or just going to give it away?

asr-001037
01:08:57.660 --> 01:08:58.260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Anong bang...

asr-001038
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang tindi sa private firm will just be carried away.

asr-001039
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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: It will be carried out.

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01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:18.000
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay.

asr-001043
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:37.770
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear]

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01:09:38.430 --> 01:09:39.550
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear]

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01:09:50.650 --> 01:09:52.240
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear]

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01:10:07.690 --> 01:10:11.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, regarding abolition,

asr-001067
01:10:11.400 --> 01:10:12.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if the

asr-001068
01:10:12.360 --> 01:10:14.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: particular GOCC would be

asr-001069
01:10:14.360 --> 01:10:15.760
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: recommended for abolition,

asr-001070
01:10:17.180 --> 01:10:18.000
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's usually

asr-001071
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:19.460
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the

asr-001072
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: employees, the assets,

asr-001073
01:10:22.180 --> 01:10:23.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and all the operations would be

asr-001074
01:10:23.940 --> 01:10:26.080
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: absorbed by the government

asr-001075
01:10:26.080 --> 01:10:27.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: agency, like a relevant government

asr-001076
01:10:27.940 --> 01:10:29.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: agency, with related

asr-001077
01:10:29.980 --> 01:10:32.340
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: operations to the GOCC for abolition.

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01:10:32.700 --> 01:10:33.080
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker.

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01:10:33.620 --> 01:10:35.340
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, I agree with that.

asr-001080
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:37.740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: But again, I'm just going to stick

asr-001081
01:10:37.740 --> 01:10:39.520
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the number five, that you're private.

asr-001082
01:10:40.040 --> 01:10:42.040
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Papasok ba? Bibiling ba nila?

asr-001083
01:10:42.500 --> 01:10:43.600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mamimigay ba natin?

asr-001084
01:10:44.260 --> 01:10:45.960
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Remember you mentioned number five.

asr-001085
01:10:46.080 --> 01:10:47.260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So I'm just curious

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01:10:47.260 --> 01:10:49.360
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: about the number five. When you say

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: private firm

asr-001088
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is carrying it out

asr-001089
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:55.420
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or taking over, ano ba?

asr-001090
01:10:55.580 --> 01:10:57.180
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi doon lang medyo

asr-001091
01:10:57.180 --> 01:10:59.640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nalilito ako. Just enlighten me

asr-001092
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:01.100
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pagdating dyan. Ano ba talagang

asr-001093
01:11:01.100 --> 01:11:03.580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: issue doon? Talaga bang, kasi

asr-001094
01:11:03.580 --> 01:11:04.880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: when you mention five,

asr-001095
01:11:05.120 --> 01:11:07.800
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: private, you mentioned private

asr-001096
01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:08.120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: firm.

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01:11:27.180 --> 01:11:29.700
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker,

asr-001098
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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to further

asr-001099
01:11:32.200 --> 01:11:34.420
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: enhance the details that were mentioned.

asr-001100
01:11:34.740 --> 01:11:34.880
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So,

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01:11:36.040 --> 01:11:37.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if there is

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01:11:37.660 --> 01:11:39.860
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: an observation on the part of the

asr-001103
01:11:39.860 --> 01:11:41.680
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: GCG that a GOCC

asr-001104
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:43.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is non-operating

asr-001105
01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:45.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or

asr-001106
01:11:45.400 --> 01:11:47.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is failing to

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01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:49.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: meet objectives, then

asr-001108
01:11:49.660 --> 01:11:51.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it assesses

asr-001109
01:11:51.660 --> 01:11:53.180
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and then it evaluates whether

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01:11:53.180 --> 01:11:55.460
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it should recommend for abolition,

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01:11:56.340 --> 01:11:57.160
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: recommend for merger,

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01:11:57.180 --> 01:11:59.220
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or recommend for

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01:11:59.220 --> 01:12:01.340
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: privatization. So, strictly for

asr-001114
01:12:01.340 --> 01:12:02.960
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: abolition, most of the time,

asr-001115
01:12:03.160 --> 01:12:05.280
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: what happens is, if the GOCC

asr-001116
01:12:05.280 --> 01:12:06.900
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is recommended for abolition,

asr-001117
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:08.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then the operations

asr-001118
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.160
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and employees and all of the assets

asr-001119
01:12:11.160 --> 01:12:12.480
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: get

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01:12:12.480 --> 01:12:15.260
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: absorbed by a government

asr-001121
01:12:15.260 --> 01:12:16.640
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: agency that has related

asr-001122
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:19.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: operations to what the

asr-001123
01:12:19.120 --> 01:12:20.560
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: GOCC used to do.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

asr-001125
01:12:24.200 --> 01:12:25.200
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Remember, for

asr-001126
01:12:25.200 --> 01:12:27.160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: every year or every day, the process

asr-001127
01:12:27.180 --> 01:12:28.800
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: remains unfinished.

asr-001128
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:31.440
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: What costs continue

asr-001129
01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:32.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to be borne by government?

asr-001130
01:12:33.700 --> 01:12:34.580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Personal costs,

asr-001131
01:12:35.180 --> 01:12:36.480
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: administrative expenses,

asr-001132
01:12:37.360 --> 01:12:39.400
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: liabilities, asset maintenance

asr-001133
01:12:39.400 --> 01:12:41.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: costs, legal expenses,

asr-001134
01:12:41.980 --> 01:12:42.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or other obligations.

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01:12:43.300 --> 01:12:45.580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, can the good sponsor

asr-001136
01:12:45.580 --> 01:12:47.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: quantify the

asr-001137
01:12:47.300 --> 01:12:49.280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: annual cost of keeping these

asr-001138
01:12:49.280 --> 01:12:51.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: corporations legally

asr-001139
01:12:51.300 --> 01:12:51.940
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or

asr-001140
01:12:51.940 --> 01:12:54.820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: administratively alive?

asr-001141
01:12:54.820 --> 01:12:56.940
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Even just an estimate,

asr-001142
01:12:57.180 --> 01:12:58.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: where they are supposedly

asr-001143
01:12:58.620 --> 01:13:00.760
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: already being

asr-001144
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:02.080
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: abolished.

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01:14:15.300 --> 01:14:19.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, once a GOCC

asr-001149
01:14:19.240 --> 01:14:20.920
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is recommended for abolition,

asr-001150
01:14:21.700 --> 01:14:23.140
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it stops receiving

asr-001151
01:14:23.140 --> 01:14:25.280
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: any government subsidy from

asr-001152
01:14:25.280 --> 01:14:26.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the national government.

asr-001153
01:14:27.180 --> 01:14:29.280
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, in terms of

asr-001154
01:14:29.280 --> 01:14:31.140
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: additional

asr-001155
01:14:31.140 --> 01:14:33.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: expenses on the part of the

asr-001156
01:14:33.120 --> 01:14:35.060
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: national government, for those that are still

asr-001157
01:14:35.060 --> 01:14:37.260
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: pending abolition, there are none.

asr-001158
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:38.100
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker.

asr-001159
01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:41.120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm glad that you said, Mr. Speaker, that

asr-001160
01:14:41.120 --> 01:14:42.740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: there will be no more subsidies

asr-001161
01:14:42.740 --> 01:14:44.920
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: as long as they're under

asr-001162
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:47.120
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: abolition. What happens to

asr-001163
01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:47.940
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the employees?

asr-001164
01:14:48.540 --> 01:14:50.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Are they absorbed immediately or are they still there?

asr-001165
01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:52.560
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Because if they're still there,

asr-001166
01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:53.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: it will incur

asr-001167
01:14:53.860 --> 01:14:56.960
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: expenses for the salaries,

asr-001168
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.060
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: so once under

asr-001169
01:14:59.060 --> 01:14:59.540
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: abolition,

asr-001170
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:00.820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: pending,

asr-001171
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:02.880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: lilipat na ba sila?

asr-001172
01:15:54.290 --> 01:16:02.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, for those employees who will not be absorbed

asr-001173
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:03.280
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: by, let's say, a

asr-001174
01:16:03.280 --> 01:16:04.000
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: government agency,

asr-001175
01:16:05.320 --> 01:16:07.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they're given separation incentive pay,

asr-001176
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:10.480
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and then those who are needed

asr-001177
01:16:10.480 --> 01:16:11.440
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for the safekeeping

asr-001178
01:16:11.440 --> 01:16:14.220
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and for the processing of the abolition,

asr-001179
01:16:15.200 --> 01:16:18.000
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they're maintained by the corporation.

asr-001180
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:19.340
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker.

asr-001181
01:16:20.860 --> 01:16:22.320
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Fair enough, Mr. Speaker.

asr-001182
01:16:23.300 --> 01:16:23.580
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So,

asr-001183
01:16:24.940 --> 01:16:26.000
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: those 21 cases

asr-001184
01:16:26.540 --> 01:16:27.900
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for disposal

asr-001185
01:16:27.900 --> 01:16:29.980
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or under abolition

asr-001186
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:33.460
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano action required

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for another agency?

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01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:37.400
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Settlement of liabilities,

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01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:38.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: litigation,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I know there's legal processes, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam naman natin may mga legal impediments to.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, do we expect that 21

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: under abolition

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: will be done

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: this year

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: or it will take another year?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for 2026,

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: those that are pipelined for terminal report

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: would be 5.

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01:17:21.700 --> 01:17:22.600
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, that would remain,

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01:17:22.780 --> 01:17:23.780
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the 16 remaining.

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01:17:24.320 --> 01:17:25.960
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As for the 16 remaining

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01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:28.420
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: GOCCs for abolition,

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01:17:29.300 --> 01:17:29.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the,

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01:17:29.660 --> 01:17:30.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the GCG

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01:17:30.660 --> 01:17:32.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: established the

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01:17:32.820 --> 01:17:33.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: disposition and

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01:17:33.940 --> 01:17:35.900
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: asset management office

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01:17:35.900 --> 01:17:37.700
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to further expedite

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01:17:37.700 --> 01:17:39.340
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the abolition of these

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01:17:39.340 --> 01:17:41.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 16 remaining GOCCs.

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01:17:42.060 --> 01:17:42.440
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, it's going to handle

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01:17:43.900 --> 01:17:46.080
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by the asset management office?

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01:17:46.220 --> 01:17:46.960
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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01:17:47.260 --> 01:17:48.320
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, fair enough.

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01:17:48.900 --> 01:17:50.000
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In connection with that,

asr-001219
01:17:50.540 --> 01:17:51.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I would like to ask GCG

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01:17:52.220 --> 01:17:53.880
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: what precisely makes

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01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:55.280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: a GOCC

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01:17:55.280 --> 01:17:57.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sufficiently non-performing

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01:17:57.660 --> 01:17:59.080
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to warrant

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01:17:59.080 --> 01:17:59.660
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the abolition

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01:17:59.660 --> 01:18:00.560
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: of that action

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01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:02.160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: to classify them

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01:18:02.160 --> 01:18:03.100
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for winding up?

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01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:05.600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is there an objective threshold?

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01:18:06.360 --> 01:18:07.640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Is there a criteria?

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01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:07.820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yeah.

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01:19:11.540 --> 01:19:23.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, the GCG uses the Corporate Governance Scorecard and the Performance Evaluation Scorecard.

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01:19:23.940 --> 01:19:35.000
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, consistent failure in these key performance indicators would constitute a review by the GCG with regards to the abolition, Mr. Speaker.

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01:19:35.360 --> 01:19:40.320
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That was a good answer. That's why my next question is about the scorecard.

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01:19:41.820 --> 01:19:45.200
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you for that information, Mr. Speaker, the single sponsor.

asr-001247
01:19:45.200 --> 01:19:52.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, if a GOCC consistently fails its target, what happens to the board?

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01:19:52.860 --> 01:19:54.700
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I'm talking of the board of the GOCC.

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01:19:55.420 --> 01:20:06.060
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In other words, is poor performance merely recorded on a scoreboard, or does the scoreboard actually produce governance consequences?

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01:20:37.980 --> 01:20:41.060
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear]

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01:20:42.350 --> 01:20:43.340
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear]

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01:21:04.650 --> 01:21:06.240
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker,

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01:21:06.240 --> 01:21:08.380
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with regards to

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01:21:08.380 --> 01:21:10.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: whether there are consistent

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01:21:10.940 --> 01:21:13.020
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: underperformance in the

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01:21:13.020 --> 01:21:14.880
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: scorecard, if it's the GOCC,

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01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:16.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then

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01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:18.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if the GOCC continually

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01:21:18.980 --> 01:21:21.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: underperforms,

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01:21:21.400 --> 01:21:23.540
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: then the GCG can

asr-001267
01:21:23.540 --> 01:21:24.960
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: review and evaluate

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01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:26.460
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it for abolition.

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01:21:27.260 --> 01:21:29.040
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: With regards to the

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01:21:29.040 --> 01:21:31.420
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Board of Directors, because

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01:21:31.420 --> 01:21:33.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: we also have performance

asr-001272
01:21:33.360 --> 01:21:34.580
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: evaluation for directors,

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01:21:35.440 --> 01:21:35.740
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: if

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01:21:35.740 --> 01:21:39.720
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: an appointed director

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01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:41.480
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: receives less

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01:21:41.480 --> 01:21:43.160
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: than 85% in the

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01:21:43.160 --> 01:21:44.520
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: performance scorecard,

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01:21:45.380 --> 01:21:47.620
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it won't be qualified

asr-001279
01:21:47.620 --> 01:21:49.560
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to be included in the shortlist of nominees

asr-001280
01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:51.260
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: for succeeding terms of office, meaning

asr-001281
01:21:51.260 --> 01:21:52.840
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: cannot be issued

asr-001282
01:21:52.840 --> 01:21:54.640
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: reappointment, Mr. Speaker.

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01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:56.820
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I like that.

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01:21:57.740 --> 01:21:59.500
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 85%. Maganda yan.

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01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:01.160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, again, thank you

asr-001286
01:22:01.160 --> 01:22:03.100
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: for my closing statement.

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01:22:03.460 --> 01:22:04.800
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you for that,

asr-001288
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:07.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-001289
01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:09.260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I hope the commitments that we received

asr-001290
01:22:09.260 --> 01:22:11.420
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: from the GCG will actually

asr-001291
01:22:11.420 --> 01:22:13.560
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: translate into measurable results

asr-001292
01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:15.520
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: that perhaps we can revisit

asr-001293
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:16.980
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: in the next budget cycle.

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01:22:16.980 --> 01:22:18.740
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: As you know,

asr-001295
01:22:19.160 --> 01:22:20.800
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, ang GCG po ay

asr-001296
01:22:21.260 --> 01:22:22.640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ay hindi basta-basta trabaho.

asr-001297
01:22:23.900 --> 01:22:24.900
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They oversee

asr-001298
01:22:24.900 --> 01:22:26.620
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: several

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01:22:26.620 --> 01:22:29.280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: GOCC, no? Para pong

asr-001300
01:22:29.280 --> 01:22:31.160
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: nagbantay sila ng top

asr-001301
01:22:31.160 --> 01:22:33.340
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: 100 corporations. Napakahirap po

asr-001302
01:22:33.340 --> 01:22:35.280
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ng kanilang trabaho. That's why

asr-001303
01:22:35.280 --> 01:22:37.600
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I support the budget of GCG.

asr-001304
01:22:38.120 --> 01:22:39.260
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang sabi nga nila dyan,

asr-001305
01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:41.420
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: konti

asr-001306
01:22:41.420 --> 01:22:43.300
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: ang suweldo,

asr-001307
01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:45.560
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: maraming trabaho. Again, thank you very much,

asr-001308
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:46.340
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker.

asr-001309
01:22:48.140 --> 01:22:49.640
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Madam Sponsor, and to

asr-001310
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:50.860
Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: the rest of the family of GCG.

asr-001311
01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:53.160
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable De Jesus,

asr-001312
01:22:53.440 --> 01:22:54.140
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-001313
01:22:55.440 --> 01:22:58.100
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize

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01:22:58.100 --> 01:23:00.560
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Elijah San Fernando

asr-001315
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:01.760
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: for his interpellation.

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01:23:02.240 --> 01:23:04.020
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Elijah San Fernando

asr-001317
01:23:04.020 --> 01:23:06.400
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: of Party-list Kamanggagawa is recognized.

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01:23:06.620 --> 01:23:07.120
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

asr-001319
01:23:07.380 --> 01:23:09.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker,

asr-001320
01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:11.740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa ating kaibigan, kagalang-galang

asr-001321
01:23:11.740 --> 01:23:13.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na Bella Suansing,

asr-001322
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sponsor, at sa mga kasama po natin

asr-001323
01:23:16.040 --> 01:23:17.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa GCG, magandang gabi po sa inyo.

asr-001324
01:23:18.580 --> 01:23:19.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Meron lamang pong ilang mga

asr-001325
01:23:19.940 --> 01:23:21.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: katanungan,

asr-001326
01:23:21.100 --> 01:23:21.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: paglilinaw.

asr-001327
01:23:23.620 --> 01:23:25.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Noong June 6,

asr-001328
01:23:26.280 --> 01:23:27.280
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 2011 po,

asr-001329
01:23:27.440 --> 01:23:29.320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ay naging batas yung

asr-001330
01:23:29.320 --> 01:23:31.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: RA number 10149

asr-001331
01:23:31.480 --> 01:23:33.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nagbubuo na po sa

asr-001332
01:23:33.480 --> 01:23:35.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Governance Commission for

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01:23:35.120 --> 01:23:37.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: GOCCs. At

asr-001334
01:23:37.400 --> 01:23:39.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasabay nito ay ang pagkakaroon din

asr-001335
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:40.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng

asr-001336
01:23:40.460 --> 01:23:43.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: tinatawag nating Compensation

asr-001337
01:23:43.200 --> 01:23:45.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and Position Classification System

asr-001338
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:47.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o CPCS

asr-001339
01:23:47.360 --> 01:23:49.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para sa lahat

asr-001340
01:23:49.480 --> 01:23:50.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga GOCCs and

asr-001341
01:23:51.100 --> 01:23:53.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: GFIs, chartered

asr-001342
01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:55.320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: o hindi. Para lang po

asr-001343
01:23:55.320 --> 01:23:57.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: maunawaan ng ating

asr-001344
01:23:57.400 --> 01:23:58.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kaibigan na sponsor,

asr-001345
01:23:59.220 --> 01:24:01.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so prior po sa pagkakaroon

asr-001346
01:24:01.080 --> 01:24:03.280
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng batas noong 2011,

asr-001347
01:24:04.220 --> 01:24:04.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so yung mga

asr-001348
01:24:04.900 --> 01:24:07.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: manggagawa sa mga GOCCs and

asr-001349
01:24:07.200 --> 01:24:09.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: GFIs, so may mga

asr-001350
01:24:09.020 --> 01:24:11.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: gratuity na yan na natatanggap.

asr-001351
01:24:11.700 --> 01:24:13.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: May mga allowances, benefits,

asr-001352
01:24:13.360 --> 01:24:14.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and incentives.

asr-001353
01:24:15.180 --> 01:24:17.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero yung ibang GOCCs, dahil

asr-001354
01:24:17.240 --> 01:24:19.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nga hindi pa standard at

asr-001355
01:24:19.140 --> 01:24:20.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that time, so iba-iba yan.

asr-001356
01:24:21.100 --> 01:24:23.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Matatanggap. So the intention

asr-001357
01:24:23.180 --> 01:24:24.720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the law is actually good.

asr-001358
01:24:26.120 --> 01:24:27.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yung pagkabuo ng

asr-001359
01:24:27.380 --> 01:24:29.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: CPCS na

asr-001360
01:24:29.100 --> 01:24:31.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: tinatawag. Pero malinaw

asr-001361
01:24:31.200 --> 01:24:33.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa Section 11, Mr. Speaker,

asr-001362
01:24:34.160 --> 01:24:35.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Distinguished Sponsor,

asr-001363
01:24:36.080 --> 01:24:36.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that

asr-001364
01:24:36.480 --> 01:24:39.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this particular section expressly

asr-001365
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:40.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bars

asr-001366
01:24:40.260 --> 01:24:42.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: diminution of authorized

asr-001367
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:45.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: salaries as of

asr-001368
01:24:45.140 --> 01:24:47.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: December 31, 2010

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01:24:47.100 --> 01:24:48.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for incumbents.

asr-001370
01:24:49.280 --> 01:24:49.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And I quote,

asr-001371
01:24:51.100 --> 01:24:52.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that in no case

asr-001372
01:24:52.380 --> 01:24:54.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: shall there be any diminution

asr-001373
01:24:54.900 --> 01:24:56.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in the authorized

asr-001374
01:24:56.840 --> 01:24:59.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: salaries as of

asr-001375
01:24:59.160 --> 01:25:01.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: December 31, 2010.

asr-001376
01:25:02.020 --> 01:25:03.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So yun po yung progression,

asr-001377
01:25:03.260 --> 01:25:05.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bago magkaroon ng batas,

asr-001378
01:25:05.120 --> 01:25:07.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at nagkaroon ng batas, at malinaw

asr-001379
01:25:07.140 --> 01:25:08.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nakasulat sa Section 11, hindi

asr-001380
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:10.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: maaaring magkaroon ng pagbaba.

asr-001381
01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:12.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So yun yung non-diminution

asr-001382
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:14.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of benefits na tinatawag.

asr-001383
01:25:15.320 --> 01:25:16.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, on October

asr-001384
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:19.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 1, 2021,

asr-001385
01:25:19.100 --> 01:25:19.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: then,

asr-001386
01:25:21.100 --> 01:25:23.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: President Duterte issued

asr-001387
01:25:23.080 --> 01:25:24.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Executive Order No.

asr-001388
01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:26.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 150.

asr-001389
01:25:27.460 --> 01:25:29.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And this Executive

asr-001390
01:25:29.180 --> 01:25:31.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Order approves

asr-001391
01:25:31.080 --> 01:25:32.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: CPCS 1.

asr-001392
01:25:34.020 --> 01:25:35.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ngayon, medyo problematic

asr-001393
01:25:35.220 --> 01:25:36.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na po itong CPCS 1.

asr-001394
01:25:37.420 --> 01:25:39.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So susundan po natin, the intention

asr-001395
01:25:39.080 --> 01:25:40.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: of the law ay maganda

asr-001396
01:25:40.860 --> 01:25:42.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para magkaroon ng standard

asr-001397
01:25:42.440 --> 01:25:45.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa mga manggagawa sa GOCCs

asr-001398
01:25:45.380 --> 01:25:46.760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and GFIs.

asr-001399
01:25:47.400 --> 01:25:48.740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tas malinaw sa Section 11,

asr-001400
01:25:48.740 --> 01:25:50.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: bawal mabawasan yung mga benepisyon nila.

asr-001401
01:25:51.100 --> 01:25:52.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, come 2021,

asr-001402
01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:55.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: naglabas ngayon ng Executive

asr-001403
01:25:55.040 --> 01:25:56.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Order, kung saan

asr-001404
01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:59.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pinipigilan na

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01:25:59.060 --> 01:26:01.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga GOCC

asr-001406
01:26:01.220 --> 01:26:03.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: boards from

asr-001407
01:26:03.120 --> 01:26:04.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: negotiating collective

asr-001408
01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:06.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: negotiation agreements

asr-001409
01:26:06.380 --> 01:26:08.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: or CBA terms.

asr-001410
01:26:10.340 --> 01:26:10.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos,

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01:26:11.180 --> 01:26:13.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung nandun pa rin

asr-001412
01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:14.820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung pagsa-standardize ng compensation,

asr-001413
01:26:16.240 --> 01:26:16.800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pero

asr-001414
01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:18.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na-disallow na yung

asr-001415
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:20.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mga bayad,

asr-001416
01:26:21.100 --> 01:26:23.280
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: outside CPCS,

asr-001417
01:26:24.140 --> 01:26:25.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: absent presidential

asr-001418
01:26:25.460 --> 01:26:26.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: approval.

asr-001419
01:26:27.940 --> 01:26:29.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So kung masusundan po natin,

asr-001420
01:26:29.240 --> 01:26:31.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: before, nakakatanggap na sila ng mga benefits,

asr-001421
01:26:32.200 --> 01:26:33.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mga allowances and incentives,

asr-001422
01:26:34.780 --> 01:26:35.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: tapos

asr-001423
01:26:35.260 --> 01:26:37.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: in-standardize siya, and then come

asr-001424
01:26:37.400 --> 01:26:39.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: EO 150,

asr-001425
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:41.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: without

asr-001426
01:26:41.480 --> 01:26:42.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the presidential approval,

asr-001427
01:26:44.220 --> 01:26:45.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi na sila makakatanggap

asr-001428
01:26:45.420 --> 01:26:47.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng mga ganitong gratuity pay.

asr-001429
01:26:49.020 --> 01:26:49.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tapos,

asr-001430
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:50.760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sinubject yung provident

asr-001431
01:26:51.100 --> 01:26:51.600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: fund

asr-001432
01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:52.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: contribution

asr-001433
01:26:52.420 --> 01:26:54.760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to rationalization.

asr-001434
01:26:55.380 --> 01:26:55.720
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact,

asr-001435
01:26:55.820 --> 01:26:57.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: tinutulan ito ng mga manggagawa

asr-001436
01:26:57.540 --> 01:26:59.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa GOCCs and GFIs.

asr-001437
01:26:59.820 --> 01:27:00.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi we have to take note,

asr-001438
01:27:00.980 --> 01:27:03.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga manggagawa natin sa GOCCs and GFIs,

asr-001439
01:27:03.820 --> 01:27:05.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: highly technical itong mga ito,

asr-001440
01:27:05.160 --> 01:27:05.820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: highly skilled.

asr-001441
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:07.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, kung baga,

asr-001442
01:27:07.300 --> 01:27:09.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: insentibo ito para manatili sila

asr-001443
01:27:09.140 --> 01:27:11.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: sa mga government financial institutions,

asr-001444
01:27:12.040 --> 01:27:13.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasi kung pangit naman

asr-001445
01:27:13.340 --> 01:27:15.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung package na inooffer ng mga

asr-001446
01:27:15.080 --> 01:27:16.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: GOCCs and GFIs,

asr-001447
01:27:16.860 --> 01:27:18.800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: eh ba't magtatrabaho dyan yung mga manggagawa?

asr-001448
01:27:19.160 --> 01:27:20.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So that is the purpose.

asr-001449
01:27:20.160 --> 01:27:22.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, kaya tinutulan itong CPCS-1.

asr-001450
01:27:22.780 --> 01:27:24.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, there were many

asr-001451
01:27:24.180 --> 01:27:25.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mobilizations

asr-001452
01:27:25.420 --> 01:27:28.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para tutulan itong CPCS-1.

asr-001453
01:27:28.940 --> 01:27:30.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And the promise back then is

asr-001454
01:27:30.460 --> 01:27:32.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: i-review itong CPCS-1,

asr-001455
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:34.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung EO-150.

asr-001456
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:36.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi malakas yung clamor,

asr-001457
01:27:36.280 --> 01:27:38.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung pushback ng mga manggagawa na

asr-001458
01:27:38.060 --> 01:27:40.280
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: eh bakit nyo naman babawasan yung

asr-001459
01:27:40.280 --> 01:27:42.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: natatanggap na naming mga benepisyo?

asr-001460
01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:44.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And so the response to CPCS-1

asr-001461
01:27:44.980 --> 01:27:46.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is CPCS-2.

asr-001462
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:47.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So,

asr-001463
01:27:47.940 --> 01:27:50.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ito yung nilabas ni Pangulong

asr-001464
01:27:50.040 --> 01:27:51.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Bongbong Marcos

asr-001465
01:27:51.020 --> 01:27:53.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: noong September 16, 2025

asr-001466
01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:56.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: through Executive Order

asr-001467
01:27:56.240 --> 01:27:57.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: No. 95

asr-001468
01:27:58.720 --> 01:27:59.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: expressly

asr-001469
01:28:00.620 --> 01:28:01.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: repealing EO-150.

asr-001470
01:28:03.940 --> 01:28:06.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang problema dito sa CPCS-2,

asr-001471
01:28:06.300 --> 01:28:07.700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

asr-001472
01:28:08.200 --> 01:28:09.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi niya niresolba yung problema

asr-001473
01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:11.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ng CPCS-1.

asr-001474
01:28:12.480 --> 01:28:13.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Bakit hindi niya niresolba?

asr-001475
01:28:14.260 --> 01:28:15.740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi, Madam Sponsor,

asr-001476
01:28:15.740 --> 01:28:16.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nanatili pa rin

asr-001477
01:28:16.980 --> 01:28:20.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung CNA-CBA Negotiation Ban

asr-001478
01:28:20.040 --> 01:28:21.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nandun pa rin yung

asr-001479
01:28:21.940 --> 01:28:23.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pagra-rationalize, quote-unquote,

asr-001480
01:28:24.320 --> 01:28:26.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: doon sa Provident Funds

asr-001481
01:28:26.540 --> 01:28:27.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and it has a

asr-001482
01:28:27.900 --> 01:28:29.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pivotal new feature.

asr-001483
01:28:31.060 --> 01:28:32.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: It converts

asr-001484
01:28:32.080 --> 01:28:33.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: previously authorized

asr-001485
01:28:33.980 --> 01:28:34.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: allowances,

asr-001486
01:28:36.180 --> 01:28:37.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: benefits, and incentives,

asr-001487
01:28:38.080 --> 01:28:38.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ABIs,

asr-001488
01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:42.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: into a one-time three-year present value

asr-001489
01:28:42.020 --> 01:28:42.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: cash payout.

asr-001490
01:28:44.780 --> 01:28:45.600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kung merong regression,

asr-001491
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:47.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: merong, kumbaga, rollback ito eh.

asr-001492
01:28:49.020 --> 01:28:49.760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, instead na

asr-001493
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:51.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: nakukuha nila yung ABIs,

asr-001494
01:28:51.160 --> 01:28:53.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga manggagawa sa GOCCs and GFIs,

asr-001495
01:28:54.200 --> 01:28:55.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang nangyari ay

asr-001496
01:28:55.540 --> 01:28:57.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: one-time

asr-001497
01:28:57.200 --> 01:28:59.820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: cash payout, after which

asr-001498
01:28:59.820 --> 01:29:01.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: they are discontinued.

asr-001499
01:29:02.320 --> 01:29:03.320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Tama po ba itong

asr-001500
01:29:03.320 --> 01:29:05.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pagkakalahad ng mga facts nito,

asr-001501
01:29:06.100 --> 01:29:07.400
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker?

asr-001503
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:51.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Maandar po yung time ko,

asr-001504
01:29:51.400 --> 01:29:51.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker.

asr-001507
01:31:07.630 --> 01:31:08.860
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is suspended.

asr-001512
01:34:08.260 --> 01:34:09.430
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Session is resumed.

asr-001513
01:34:11.540 --> 01:34:30.000
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, as for the GCG, this is a mere transitory provision. From CPCS 1, the three-year present value of the discontinued allowances, benefits, and incentives

asr-001514
01:34:30.000 --> 01:35:04.100
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: were paid over three tranches for three years during this transitory period. But at the same time, tumaas din po, as per the GCG, yung monthly basic compensation. Besides the tranches na payout, tumaas din yung monthly basic compensation para maging mas at par sa private sector, Mr. Speaker.

asr-001515
01:35:04.100 --> 01:35:30.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you, Madam Sponsor. In fact, merong mga tumaas pagdating sa allowances, benefits, and incentives; merong mga nabigyan kasi before wala yung iba. In-standardize sa CPCS 1, CPCS 2, pero ang daming problematic provisions at may pushback yung workers in GFIs.

asr-001516
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:59.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, Madam Sponsor, bago pa man nagkaroon ng batas na bumuo sa GCG at bago CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, may mga manggagawa sa GFIs na nag-e-enjoy na ng iba?t ibang allowances, benefits, and incentives.

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01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:29.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: For example, Pag-IBIG educational assistance and provident fund traced to board resolutions from 1986 and 1994. PDIC has 2011 payroll records, the year RA 10149 was passed, showing 14th-month pay and provident fund contributions. SSS PRAISE program disbursing

asr-001518
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:59.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 434.805 million in incentives in 2024 was reviewed and approved by the Civil Service Commission in June 2024. Dahil sa CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, may mga benepisyong nawala o nabawasan sa mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

asr-001519
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:29.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa provident fund, some were enjoying 40% employer share, pero dahil sa CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, 10% na lang. Iyan ang malaking problema. Madam Sponsor, let us establish a basic principle of law.

asr-001520
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:59.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang Republic Act 10149, GOCC Governance Act, ay pinasa noong 2011, a general law for standardization of GOCCs. Fast forward to 2019, ipinasa ng Kongreso ang RA 11199, Social Security Act of 2018, isang specific law.

asr-001521
01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:29.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Section 3(d) gave the Social Security Commission power to fix reasonable compensation, allowances, and benefits of its personnel. Ngayon ginagamit ng GCG yung CPCS 2 na inilabas noong 2025

asr-001522
01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:59.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: para i-override at tanggalin ang mga benepisyong ito. In constant communication ako sa union ng SSS. So alin ang mas mataas, Madam Sponsor, isang batas na pinasa ng Kongreso o isang executive order

asr-001523
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:01.970
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: na nanggaling sa Office of the President, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker?

asr-001526
01:39:03.790 --> 01:39:06.810
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear]

asr-001527
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Mr. Speaker, yung time ko po pumapatak.

asr-001528
01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:40.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pumapatak po yung time ko.

asr-001529
01:39:41.500 --> 01:39:42.300
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Timer, please.

asr-001531
01:40:57.780 --> 01:40:58.160
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear]

asr-001532
01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:29.610
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: [unclear]

asr-001533
01:41:30.510 --> 01:41:36.420
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, Section 11 of RA 10149, if I may read,

asr-001534
01:41:37.060 --> 01:41:41.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the Compensation and Position Classification System, so CPCS,

asr-001535
01:41:42.860 --> 01:41:46.080
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: to be developed and recommended by the GCG as approved by the President

asr-001536
01:41:46.080 --> 01:41:49.780
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: shall apply to all positions on full or part-time basis now existing

asr-001537
01:41:49.780 --> 01:41:52.040
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or hereafter created in the GOCC,

asr-001538
01:41:52.600 --> 01:41:57.480
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: provided that in no case shall there be any diminution in the authorized salaries

asr-001539
01:41:57.480 --> 01:41:59.340
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as of December 31, 2010.

asr-001540
01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:07.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Of incumbent employees of the GOCCs, including those exempt under RA 6758 as amended

asr-001541
01:42:07.400 --> 01:42:10.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: upon the implementation of the CPCS for GOCCs.

asr-001542
01:42:10.980 --> 01:42:14.520
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, dapat ang nagpe-prevail po talaga ay ano?

asr-001543
01:42:15.260 --> 01:42:16.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 10149, Mr. Speaker.

asr-001544
01:42:17.380 --> 01:42:19.600
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ay, dapat ang nagpe-prevail ay yung?

asr-001545
01:42:20.200 --> 01:42:21.760
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 10149, Mr. Speaker.

asr-001546
01:42:21.780 --> 01:42:29.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, in statutory construction, the specific and later law prevails over a general and earlier law.

asr-001547
01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:39.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, given that RA 11199, 2019, is both the later law and the specific charter for SSS,

asr-001548
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:45.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: hindi po dapat ito ang mas masunod kaysa sa general framework ng RA 10149?

asr-001549
01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:55.920
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Actually, ang basis yung executive order eh.

asr-001550
01:42:56.840 --> 01:42:58.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ano pong authority?

asr-001551
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:06.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang ginagamit ng GCG to use an executive order

asr-001552
01:43:06.060 --> 01:43:13.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: to execute an implied administrative repeal of a specific act of Congress.

asr-001553
01:43:15.080 --> 01:43:19.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ibig sabihin po ba nito, mas mataas na ang GCG kaysa sa Kongreso?

asr-001554
01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:23.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi yun po ang efekte.

asr-001555
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:48.560
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, there was no express repeal of this section under the Social Security Law. So this would still prevail.

asr-001556
01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:58.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, tinitindigan po ng GCG na through the executive order, eh pinangingibabawan niya.

asr-001557
01:43:58.880 --> 01:43:59.320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Halimbawa, yun dito sa...

asr-001558
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:06.040
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sabi dun sa case ng SSS, na batas na ginawa,

asr-001559
01:44:07.380 --> 01:44:15.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: binigyan ng kapangyarihan ang SSS na i-determine yung compensation for the workers, for its workers.

asr-001560
01:44:16.500 --> 01:44:21.320
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And now, GCG is saying, hindi, mas mataas itong RA 10149.

asr-001561
01:44:22.240 --> 01:44:27.240
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, paano ngayon natin i-reconcile yun, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

asr-001562
01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:31.780
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Oh, yeah.

asr-001563
01:44:33.020 --> 01:44:36.300
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Given that there is no, but as for the GCG,

asr-001564
01:44:36.420 --> 01:44:44.640
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given that there is no express repeal of RA 10149 under the Social Security Law,

asr-001565
01:44:44.760 --> 01:44:45.780
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it would still prevail.

asr-001566
01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:51.700
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Though, again, the GCG would submit to the wisdom of Congress if we need to amend.

asr-001567
01:44:52.240 --> 01:44:58.500
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Because under Section 11, nakaprovide po dito yung, as approved by the President.

asr-001568
01:44:59.340 --> 01:44:59.500
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So...

asr-001569
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:13.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, big sabihin, si GCG magre-rely ngayon sa sabihin ng Presidente, even though the law is very clear.

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01:45:14.260 --> 01:45:19.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker, yan po yung kinagagalitan ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And I believe the GCG is open for further dialogue regarding this matter, Madam Sponsor.

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01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:29.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Because we really have to clarify this.

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01:45:30.580 --> 01:45:47.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, Madam Sponsor, ilapag po natin ang mga katotohanan dahil hindi pwedeng ginagamit ng GCG ang salitang standardization bilang lisensya para agawin.

asr-001574
01:45:47.580 --> 01:45:52.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Actually, pag-agaw yun eh. Yun yung principle of non-diminution of benefits. Ibinigay na.

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01:45:53.780 --> 01:45:57.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang mga karapatang dekada ng pinakikinabangan ng mga manggagawa.

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01:45:58.180 --> 01:45:59.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ito po yung binabanggit ko kanina.

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01:46:00.580 --> 01:46:07.740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Records clearly show that Pag-ibig has provided an educational assistance benefit since 1986

asr-001578
01:46:07.740 --> 01:46:20.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and a provident fund with a 45% employer counterpart that was explicitly approved by the President back in 1994.

asr-001579
01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:25.800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Sa PDIC naman, malinaw sa 2011 payrolls nila,

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01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:37.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: the exact same year, RA 10149 was passed, na tumatanggap na ang mga empleyado nila ng 14th month pay and medical allowances.

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01:46:38.500 --> 01:46:47.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, because of the existence, itong pinag-uusapan natin na CPCS 1 and CPCS 2, yan po yung mga nawala.

asr-001582
01:46:47.720 --> 01:46:50.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang daming nawala eh sa mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

asr-001583
01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:54.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And in fact, if you are going to ask workers in the GFIs,

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01:46:55.800 --> 01:47:00.340
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: isa lang sinasabi nila, ayaw namin itong CPCS 1 and CPCS 2.

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01:47:01.080 --> 01:47:07.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, Madam Sponsor, these provident funds were legally established decades before.

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01:47:07.500 --> 01:47:10.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, wala pa ng GCG, meron ng provident fund.

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01:47:11.200 --> 01:47:14.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: At meron ng arrangement, 45% nga in an example eh.

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01:47:15.540 --> 01:47:19.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, complete with presidential and statutory backing.

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01:47:19.300 --> 01:47:25.260
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, bakit pilit pinapatay ng GCG ang ipo ng mga manggagawa?

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01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:38.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang ibig sabihin po ba ng standardization for GCG ay katumbas ng diminution?

asr-001591
01:47:38.900 --> 01:47:41.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Definitely, alam ko po, sasabihin ng GCG, hindi.

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01:47:42.100 --> 01:47:43.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: But that is the effect.

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01:47:43.160 --> 01:47:44.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you.

asr-001595
01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:35.340
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, well, as for the GCG, well, yung, this would be compensated by the monthly,

asr-001596
01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: like the higher monthly compensation.

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01:48:37.360 --> 01:48:46.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yun. Medyo hindi po katanggap-tanggap yung sagot ng GCG that it will be compensated by higher or whatever.

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01:48:47.320 --> 01:48:52.660
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi nga, matagal na itong ini-enjoy ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

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01:48:53.240 --> 01:48:55.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In the section 11 nga,

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01:48:55.800 --> 01:49:08.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, papaano ngayon yan, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker?

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01:49:10.600 --> 01:49:17.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi mukhang tinitindigan pa rin ng GCG na okay lang na ang daming nawalang mga abis,

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01:49:18.140 --> 01:49:21.380
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ang daming mga nawalang mga ini-enjoy na ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs.

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01:49:21.380 --> 01:49:25.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, they are actually listening sa conversation po.

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, natin nga yun, Madam Sponsor, Mr. Speaker.

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01:49:28.540 --> 01:49:37.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, can the GCG commit today that they will respect the vested rights of these employees

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01:49:37.020 --> 01:49:45.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and immediately approve the reinstatement requests for these provident funds pending the resolution?

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01:49:45.420 --> 01:49:54.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kung meron mang mga legal battles, makukuha rin ba namin ang commitment ng GCG na makipagpulong po sa mga manggagawa ng GFIs?

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01:49:55.800 --> 01:50:01.900
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi sila po ang ultimate beneficiary and casualty of what we are talking about right now.

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01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:05.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, ang gusto po ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs ay kalinawan.

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01:50:06.780 --> 01:50:11.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So, will we get that commitment from GCG, Madam Sponsor?

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01:50:12.100 --> 01:50:13.460
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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01:50:14.340 --> 01:50:18.220
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: The GCG is, well, upon the assurance of our good chairperson,

asr-001613
01:50:18.640 --> 01:50:24.080
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is willing also to present the data that they've run assessments,

asr-001614
01:50:24.540 --> 01:50:25.580
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: they've arrived at...

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01:50:25.800 --> 01:50:31.780
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: different numbers that give justification to their stance.

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01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:36.520
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: But, of course, with the help, of course, of my distinguished colleague,

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01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:39.540
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Honorable San Fernando, personally this representation,

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01:50:39.980 --> 01:50:44.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: let's facilitate the dialogue between the GCG and our members from the Labor Center.

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01:50:44.820 --> 01:50:50.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you very much to my good friend, the sponsor, Congresswoman Bella Swan Singh.

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01:50:51.260 --> 01:50:54.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi gusto natin at the end of the day, ma-resolve ba itong problema ito?

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01:50:54.080 --> 01:50:56.880
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi the last thing that we would like to happen,

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01:50:57.700 --> 01:51:01.520
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pag itong lahat ng GFIs, pitong GFIs,

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01:51:02.300 --> 01:51:05.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung mga manggagawa nito ay hindi nakapagtimpe,

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01:51:06.500 --> 01:51:07.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: lalabas tong mga to.

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01:51:08.820 --> 01:51:11.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That is, yun yung gusto natin, hanggat maaari,

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01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:16.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: ayaw natin tumuntong sa isang sitwasyon na hindi natin makukontrol

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01:51:16.840 --> 01:51:23.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dahil very personal at malalim ang hugot ng mga manggagawa sa GFIs

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01:51:24.080 --> 01:51:28.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: dito sa mga nawalang allowances, benefits, and incentives.

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01:51:29.100 --> 01:51:34.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And for so long, hindi nila nakukuha yung sagot from GCG.

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01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:41.060
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And it is a welcome development that the sponsor is assuring this representation

asr-001631
01:51:41.060 --> 01:51:46.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: that through the chairperson of GCG ay magkakaroon tayo ng pag-uusap.

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01:51:46.160 --> 01:51:52.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Now, on to the third question, part of my question.

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01:51:54.080 --> 01:51:57.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Malinaw po na nakasaad sa saligang batas natin,

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01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:02.620
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: and in fact, this has been enshrined in labor laws and other relevant labor laws,

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01:52:03.260 --> 01:52:09.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: yung karapatan ng mga manggagawa na organisahin yung kanyang sarili

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01:52:09.220 --> 01:52:14.120
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: at makipag-negosasyon o makipagtawaran sa kanyang employer.

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01:52:14.940 --> 01:52:20.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kung sa pampublikong sektor, collective negotiation ang tawag.

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01:52:20.440 --> 01:52:22.420
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So sa pribadong sektor, collective bargaining.

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01:52:24.080 --> 01:52:30.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In fact, sa Article 13, Section 3, at maging sa Executive Order No. 180,

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01:52:31.200 --> 01:52:34.440
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: garantisado ang karapatan ng lahat ng manggagawa,

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01:52:35.080 --> 01:52:38.800
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: kasama ang mga manggagawa sa pampublikong sektor,

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01:52:39.660 --> 01:52:43.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: pagdating sa usapin ng self-organization and collective negotiation.

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01:52:43.640 --> 01:52:46.640
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Pero ito po yung malaking katanungan.

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01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:49.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: In CPCS 1 and CPCS 2,

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01:52:51.060 --> 01:52:53.580
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: eh, pinoprohibit.

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01:52:54.080 --> 01:53:02.980
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yung mga GOCC boards na magkaroon ng collective negotiation with its workers.

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01:53:03.580 --> 01:53:08.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So there is an absolute blanket prohibition.

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01:53:09.340 --> 01:53:13.500
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So papaano po, so does the Commission honestly believe that

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01:53:13.500 --> 01:53:19.300
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: this absolute blanket prohibition on negotiating every single economic,

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01:53:20.060 --> 01:53:23.700
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so yung economic provisions po ang pinatutungkulan Madam Sponsor,

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01:53:24.460 --> 01:53:27.680
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: so negotiating every single economic term,

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01:53:28.500 --> 01:53:33.200
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: is consistent with the constitutional guarantee of self-organization?

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01:54:31.380 --> 01:54:49.060
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mr. Speaker, as for the GCG, there is recognition of their right to self-organization. However, in terms of bargaining for economic terms, apparently there are already a long list of Supreme Court rulings that...

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01:54:49.060 --> 01:54:51.860
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: What is that specific Supreme Court ruling?

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01:54:54.080 --> 01:55:13.480
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I'd like to reiterate. Constitutional guarantee, yung collective negotiation. So ano po yung sa Supreme Court ruling?

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01:55:24.080 --> 01:55:37.020
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: If I'm allowed to enumerate, this is for your GSIS Family Bank Employees Union v. Villanueva, JR number 210773.

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01:55:37.760 --> 01:55:39.940
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: 210, JR number 210.

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01:55:39.940 --> 01:55:53.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 210773, a rule that may not negotiate with their officers and employees the economic terms of their collective bargaining agreements.

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01:55:54.080 --> 01:56:03.030
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And then for another Supreme Court ruling, PNCC versus NLRC, G.R. number 24...

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01:56:03.030 --> 01:56:06.370
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Anong kaso po ?yan, Madam Sponsor?

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01:56:06.370 --> 01:56:07.380
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: PNCC.

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01:56:07.380 --> 01:56:08.360
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Okay, okay.

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01:56:08.360 --> 01:56:21.040
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yeah, PNCC versus NLRC, G.R. number 248401, said that with the subsequent enactment of RA 10149,

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01:56:21.040 --> 01:56:23.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: PNCC may no longer grant this benefit.

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01:56:24.080 --> 01:56:27.500
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Without persecuring the requisite authority of the President.

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01:56:28.500 --> 01:56:31.560
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Without the authority of the President.

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01:56:31.760 --> 01:56:31.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes.

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01:56:32.500 --> 01:56:39.220
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Hayaan niyo po, Madam Sponsor, na reviewin din ang kinatawang ito, yung binanggit niyo po na jurisprudence on this matter.

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01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:42.180
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kaya po maganda nga na magkakaroon tayo ng dialogo.

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01:56:42.180 --> 01:56:48.100
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So as to reconcile our reading on this particular case.

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01:56:48.800 --> 01:56:53.760
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Kasi napakalinaw na tila baga nadidefeat na.

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01:56:54.080 --> 01:57:04.020
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Ang constitutional guarantee pagdating sa collective negotiation, medyo mabigat po yun.

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01:57:04.760 --> 01:57:14.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Nadagok sa mga union ng mga manggagawa dahil the reason of existence po ng mga union ng mga manggagawa,

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Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: may it be in private or public sector, ay para may abante yung mga panawagan tungkol sa pagdadagdag ng sahod,

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01:57:23.580 --> 01:57:24.000
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: mga benepisyon.

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01:57:24.080 --> 01:57:26.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Yun nga po, yung abis na tinatawag.

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01:57:27.260 --> 01:57:35.780
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So marami pong katanungan pa na gustong himayin ang kinatawang ito, pero dahil limitado po ang oras natin,

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01:57:36.480 --> 01:57:42.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: will we get that commitment again from the distinguished sponsor and the GCG through its chairperson,

asr-001681
01:57:43.700 --> 01:57:53.820
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: for us to sit down together and have an honest to goodness talk and dialogue about this matter and questions of workers in the GFIs?

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01:57:54.080 --> 01:57:54.740
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Madam Sponsor?

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01:57:56.740 --> 01:58:09.960
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we reaffirm the commitment and I was also informed by our good chairperson that this coming Friday, next Friday,

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01:58:10.460 --> 01:58:17.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: may meeting daw po with the labor groups firm, GFIs.

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01:58:17.420 --> 01:58:22.960
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: Thank you, Madam Sponsor and through the chairperson of GCG for affirming.

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01:58:24.080 --> 01:58:31.460
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: That commitment, dahil ako rin po ang kinatawang ito ay nais malinawan sa napakaraming mga tanong.

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01:58:32.080 --> 01:58:39.540
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: So thank you, Madam Sponsor, to my good friend and asahan ko po yung pagtutulungan natin on this matter.

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01:58:40.100 --> 01:58:53.140
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: And with that, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor, there being no other member from the minority to interpolate for the budget of GCG,

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01:58:53.140 --> 01:58:53.840
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I move.

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01:58:54.080 --> 01:59:06.160
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: To terminate the period of sponsorship and debate for the plenary consideration of the budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs for Fiscal Year 2027.

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01:59:06.400 --> 01:59:08.080
Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando: I so move, Mr. Speaker.

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01:59:08.600 --> 01:59:09.800
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say?

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01:59:09.980 --> 01:59:10.720
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

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01:59:11.340 --> 01:59:23.940
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority to terminate the period of interpellation in the Governance Commission for GOCCs.

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01:59:24.080 --> 01:59:33.600
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs.

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01:59:34.240 --> 01:59:35.260
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

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01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:37.520
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

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01:59:38.340 --> 01:59:46.180
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellation on the proposed budget of the Governance Commission for GOCCs is hereby terminated.

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01:59:46.940 --> 01:59:47.700
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations.

asr-001700
01:59:50.080 --> 01:59:51.100
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader.

asr-001701
01:59:52.750 --> 01:59:54.060
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move.

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01:59:54.080 --> 01:59:58.680
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: To consider the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority.

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02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:05.780
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. Motion is approved. Majority Leader.

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02:00:06.400 --> 02:00:24.300
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Mindanao Development Authority, Chairperson Leo Magno, Usec Janet Lopoz, Asec Romeo Montenegro. I so move, Mr. Speaker.

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02:00:24.960 --> 02:00:39.740
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Mindanao Development Authority, headed by the Chairperson, Secretary Leo Tereso Magno, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

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02:00:40.840 --> 02:00:53.330
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that you recognize the Honorable Nicanor Briones, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations to sponsor the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority.

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02:00:54.170 --> 02:01:00.280
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Representative Niki Briones is recognized. Please proceed.

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02:01:01.850 --> 02:01:03.360
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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02:01:04.220 --> 02:01:07.300
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Dear colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, good evening.

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02:01:08.680 --> 02:01:20.320
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: I rise today to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Mindanao Development Authority, headed by Secretary Leo Tereso Magno.

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02:01:21.500 --> 02:01:24.100
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mindanao Development Authority is mandated.

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02:01:24.120 --> 02:01:45.340
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: By virtue of Republic Act No. 9996, to promote, coordinate, and facilitate the socio-economic development of Mindanao through an integrated approach promoting trade, tourism, investment, private enterprises, and peace.

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02:01:45.840 --> 02:01:54.100
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: It also serves as the permanent Philippine Coordinating Office for the Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area.

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02:01:54.120 --> 02:02:15.840
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: It acts as the Secretariat for the Mindanao Power Monitoring Committee, Mindanao River Basin Management Council, NTF-ELCAC, and Cabinet Officer for Regional Development and Security in Mindanao.

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02:02:15.840 --> 02:02:22.840
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: It also implements critical strategic programs for the Mindanao.

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02:02:24.120 --> 02:02:33.720
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Such as the Project RIBER, which helps local government units develop, rehabilitate, and maintain its water supply infrastructure.

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02:02:35.060 --> 02:02:53.700
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: These programs are aligned with the Mindanao Agenda, which aims to achieve inclusive economic recovery, sustain green growth, build resilience, and strengthen peace and development for an improved quality of life for every Mindanao citizen.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: [unclear] by 2030. For this, we respectfully seek this Chamber's support to consider and approve the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority for fiscal year 2027, amounting to ₱272,435,000. Together, let us help a better Mindanao. Thank you very much, and I now welcome any questions from our colleagues.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Briones. Majority Leader.

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Party-list PHILRECA is recognized. Please proceed.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course, to the distinguished sponsor, this is about the Mindanao Energy Security.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Question. Mr. Speaker, this is the sponsor. Based on the projects, Minda has identified reliable and affordable electricity necessary for their success and sustainability.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: What's your question?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay, let me repeat my question. Based on the projects, MinDA has identified reliable and affordable electricity necessary for their success and sustainability. In short, naka-rely po kayo sa success ng the Mindanao project, yung affordable electricity for their success and sustainability. Yes or no?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Does Minda recognize electricity as a foundational requirement for Mindanao's industrial, agricultural, commercial, educational, health, and social development?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Can MinDA describe what they know about the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sir, can you describe what they know?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: We support all our efforts for the rehabilitation of the Agus Pulangi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, are you familiar with the Agus-Pulangi hydropower complex?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam niyo po, ang Agus-Pulangi, yan po yung matagal na pong pinagkukunan, source of energy sa Mindanao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That's why Congressman Sergio Dagooc, passionate siya pagdating po rito.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, ang tanong ko po, because as we know, marami.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Marami po nag-aahangad sa Agus-Pulangi na ma-privatize.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, do the Mindanao officers ng Mindanao Development Authority, are you in favor of, on record, are you in favor of privatizing Agus-Pulangi?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: What the Mindanao Development Authority wants is rehabilitation, not privatization.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, you're in favor or you're not in favor of privatizing Agus-Pulangi?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: No, no. Mindanao is not in favor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, you're not in favor?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Second, so, as we know, that Agus-Pulangi hydropower needs rehabilitation.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yeah, yes.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: As of now, the capacity of the Agus-Pulangi hydropower plant is 1,000 megawatts and it's only running 600 to 700 megawatts, distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, in short, again, let me do some fun facts.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The National Power Corporation identifies the Agus-Pulangi complexes as having a combined installed capacity of 982 megawatts

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: and supplying more than 50% of Mindanao's electricity requirements.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Alam po natin kung ano po ang kalagayan ng Agus-Pulangi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Dito po nanggagaling kalahati po ng supply sa Mindanao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kaya, pansinin niyo po.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Bisayas, nagkakaroon ng yellow alert.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Even na Luzon, pero ang Bisayas, ang Mindanao ay bihira po because of Agus-Pulangi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Does Mindanao Development Authority agree that preserving affordable and reliable access to this renewable energy resource is essential to Mindanao development?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do you recognize po yan?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Definitely, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Distinguished colleague.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: If electricity is vital to Mindanao's development and Agus-Pulangi is a major government-owned source of electricity,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: what precisely is Mindanao's position on private participation in its rehabilitation operation and management arrangement?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano ba yung arrangement nyo?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kasi, ano po, rehabilitate na.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano po ang operation and management?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ano po ang arrangement po natin dito?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker,

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Distinguished colleague, iba ang ahensya na mag-iimplement ng privatization. Yung PSALM ang siyang mag-iimplement ng privatization [unclear].

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, Mr. Speaker, medyo gusto ko lang linawin ito. Are we going to privatize ang Agus-Pulangi o yung kanilang rehabilitation lang?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: It's only for rehabilitation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. So, malinaw po, Mr. Speaker, on record, the Agus-Pulangi will not be privatized but only yung rehabilitation ang ibibigay sa private. Tama ba ako doon?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, yun ang gagawin.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yun ang gagawin, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Okay. This is very important.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Section 47F of EPIRA excluded Agus-Pulangi from the generation assets initially privatized, provided that the ownership will be transferred to PSALM and the hydropower complexes will continue to be operated

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: by NPC. It further states that privatization is left to PSALM's discretion in consultation with Congress.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Do you agree with that?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: We have to kasi. Nasa EPIRA law too. Section 47F, no?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, meron po bang naganap na konsultasyon sa Kongreso?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So, patuloy.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Kung tungkol sa rehabilitation ng Agus-Pulangi, as far as I know, wala po akong alam na [unclear] hindi po ito kasama sa mandato ng Mindanao [unclear].

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ang gusto ko lang po dito malaman ay kung ano po talaga ang position ng Minda sa pangangalagaan natin sa nag-iisa na lamang na government-owned.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Ito na lang po ang natitira. Kasi lahat po ng generation naibenta na ng PSALM. Ito na lang po ang kaisa-isa, ang Agus-Pulangi sa Mindanao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: As the Development Authority in Mindanao, would you allow the vital and strategic energy asset na mapunta na lamang sa kamay ng private corporation?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, you said you are not willing to turn it over or to sell it to private corporation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Am I right?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, tama po yun.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yes, tama. Hindi natin ibebenta.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Hindi pwedeng ibebenta.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That would be my five times na I asked you and you said yes, na hindi ibebenta. Thank you for that.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Follow-up question, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: May ginawa po ba ang MinDA para makasiguro na ang mga tao sa Agus, sa Lanao, sa Bukidnon

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: sa Iligan o sa iba pang mga apektadong komunidad na kasama sila sa decision-making patungkol dito sa Agus-Pulangi?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sigurado po ako ay importante po itong issue na ito para sa ating mga local communities.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Have you ever engaged the people from Lanao, Bukidno, even in Iligan?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pagdating po rito, nagkaroon ba ng public consultation? Even yung rehabilitation lang?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Considering that Minda is a member of the Power Monitoring Committee, nagkaroon po ng consultation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So there was consultation happen?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: When? Where?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, every year, nagkakaroon ng...

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mindanao Power Summit, kasama ang lahat ng stakeholders sa summit.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So every year, there's a consultation. Was the consultation included or it being mentioned, the privatization or even the rehabilitation of Agus-Pulangi? Kasama po ba yan

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Pagkaano kayo?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kasama, kasama yung...

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Habang nagkakaroon kayo?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In February na summit.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kasama yung rehabilitation?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And the privatization.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: At tuloy-tuloy ang pag-uusap tungkol sa Agus-Pulangi, kasama ang Department of Energy.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: When you say continuous dialogue, ano ho yung pinag-uusapan?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: In privatization ho ba o hindi?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Only privatization of maintenance and rehabilitation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: So ano ho ang sabi ng mga tao from Bukidnon, Iligan, and Lanao? Are they in favor of privatization of Agus-Pulangi?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, ang gusto ng taong bayan ay rehabilitation.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Rehabilitation?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: At continuously makapag-serve ang Agus-Pulangi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The Mindanao people wanted?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: One hundred percent.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Rehabilitation, but not privatization of Agus-Pulangi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for that. At least natutuwa ako, lalo na si Kong Serge Dagooc na nanonood ngayon sa atin.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Dahil nandun siya sa Mindanao ngayon. Umiiyak siguro habang pinanonood tayo na sa Agus-Pulangi yung tao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: He's a very dedicated person, being a lineman himself.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: My next question.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Given Mindanao Development Authority mandate to promote, coordinate, and facilitate Mindanao's socioeconomic development,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: is the agency truly protecting the interests of Mindanao when it supports or tolerates an arrangement that may place a major government-owned source of electricity under private control?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I guess, nasagot mo naman na ito, so we don't have to answer that. At least a sign of relief.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Did MinDA ever submit a written recommendation to the President, DOE, PSALM, NPC, even Congress, or any other responsible body concerning Agus-Pulangi?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Does that recommendation prioritize the long-term welfare of Mindanao residents?

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Over short-term fiscal proceeds or private investor returns?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, Mr. Speaker, before Congress approves its proposed fiscal year 2027 budget, Mindanao Development Authority should assure this August body that it is genuinely prioritizing the welfare of the people of Mindanao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And is committed to the inclusive and sustainable development of the region.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: That commitment must be demonstrated not only through plans, meetings, and policy statements, but through the protection of Mindanao's strategic public assets, particularly Agus-Pulangi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: These facilities are essential to Mindanao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mindanao's energy security and development.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: They must remain subject to public accountability and must not be placed under the control of private entities at the expense of consumers, electric, cooperatives, host communities, and the broader public interest.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Accordingly, the Mindanao Development Authority should clearly and unequivocally state that it will not support

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: any arrangement that transfers effective control of Agus-Pulangi to private corporations without transparent justification, congressional consultation, strong consumer safeguards, and continuing public control.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Mindanao should also assure this committee that it is not siding with private corporations for their own commercial or financial interests.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: The recommendation must be based solely on its statutory mandate and the long-term welfare of the people of Mindanao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Minda should have a clear commitment to remain independent, transparent, accountable, and firmly aligned with the people of Mindanao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Before I end my interpellation, Mr. Speaker, Congressman Dagooc and I strongly oppose the privatization of Agus-Pulangi.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Yan na lang po ang nag-iisang generation po ng ating gobyerno.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Sana manatili pong yan government-owned para po sa ating mga kababayan sa Mindanao.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: Again, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: And of course, to the good-looking sponsor and to the rest of Mindanao Development Authority family.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: With that, Mr. Speaker, there being no more members of the minority who wishes to interpolate,

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I move to terminate the sponsorship and debate for the budget of Mindanao Development Authority.

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Rep. Presley C. De Jesus: I so move, Mr. Speaker.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Presley De Jesus.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: What does the House say, Majority Leader?

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Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations of the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Mindanao Development Authority are hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Congratulations.

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Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader?

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02:21:50.440 --> 02:21:57.160
Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

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02:21:58.160 --> 02:21:59.020
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Is there any objection?

asr-001873
02:21:59.640 --> 02:22:01.840
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Chair hears none. Motion is approved.

asr-001874
02:22:02.400 --> 02:22:03.220
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader?

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02:22:03.780 --> 02:22:05.820
Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the guests?

asr-001877
02:22:08.180 --> 02:22:11.720
Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: The heads and officials of the Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-001878
02:22:12.160 --> 02:22:15.540
Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Chairperson Attorney Muslimen T. Macarambon, Sr.

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02:22:16.920 --> 02:22:33.160
Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: And the board members, Dr. Jamaica L. Dimaporo, Attorney Mabandes S. Diron, Jr., Engineer Nasser Tabao, Attorney Rasmiya Lawi, and Executive Director Sittie Raifa M. Pamaloy-Hassan.

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02:22:33.930 --> 02:22:35.980
Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Thank you.

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02:22:35.980 --> 02:22:48.160
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: To the family of the Marawi Compensation Board, headed by its chairperson, Attorney Muslimen T. Macarambon, Sr., welcome to the House of Representatives.

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02:22:49.500 --> 02:22:50.160
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Majority Leader?

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02:22:50.160 --> 02:23:05.100
Rep. Munir N. Arbison Jr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, the Vice Chair, Nicanor M. Briones of Party-list AGAP, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

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02:23:05.960 --> 02:23:09.790
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Niki Briones is recognized. Please proceed.

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02:23:10.370 --> 02:23:20.760
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, it is my honor and privilege to sponsor today the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

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02:23:22.060 --> 02:23:27.240
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: I now welcome questions on the budget of the MCB.

asr-001901
02:23:32.240 --> 02:23:34.740
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Thank you, Honorable Briones, Majority Leader.

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02:23:35.620 --> 02:23:47.100
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula from Akbayan Party-list for her interpellation.

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02:23:47.100 --> 02:23:50.720
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: The Honorable Ismula from Akbayan is recognized.

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02:23:51.060 --> 02:23:51.620
Deputy Speaker Ferjenel G. Biron, M.D.: Please proceed.

asr-001906
02:23:53.060 --> 02:23:56.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamualaikum, Warahmatullahi, Wabarakatuhu.

asr-001907
02:23:57.040 --> 02:23:59.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Magandang gabi po sa ating lahat.

asr-001908
02:23:59.880 --> 02:24:05.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, may breakdown po ba?

asr-001909
02:24:05.000 --> 02:24:16.080
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nang budget utilization ng MCB for the past year, ilang porsyento ang napunta sa actual compensation versus operation?

asr-001910
02:24:18.040 --> 02:24:21.240
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues.

asr-001911
02:24:22.040 --> 02:24:30.220
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Meron po tayong breakdown sa utilization ng budget ng year 2025 and 2026.

asr-001912
02:24:30.220 --> 02:24:41.100
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: And total utilization for the program for the year 2025.

asr-001913
02:24:41.100 --> 02:24:56.820
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, 95.6% of the total budget was for the program.

asr-001914
02:24:56.820 --> 02:24:58.260
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

asr-001915
02:24:58.260 --> 02:25:03.360
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: For the compensation of the claim,

asr-001916
02:25:03.360 --> 02:25:05.420
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: or the compensation of the claimant.

asr-001917
02:25:16.240 --> 02:25:22.260
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Obligation rate of the release allotment, 64%.

asr-001920
02:25:25.880 --> 02:25:28.260
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 64%.

asr-001921
02:25:28.260 --> 02:25:30.880
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 42%

asr-001922
02:25:30.880 --> 02:25:33.140
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Disbursement rate

asr-001923
02:25:33.140 --> 02:25:35.900
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: versus the obligation is 66%

asr-001924
02:25:35.900 --> 02:25:37.580
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker

asr-001925
02:25:37.580 --> 02:25:38.340
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Your Honor

asr-001926
02:25:38.340 --> 02:25:41.640
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor

asr-001927
02:25:41.640 --> 02:25:43.880
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Under the 2027

asr-001928
02:25:43.880 --> 02:25:45.440
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: NEP of the Marawi

asr-001929
02:25:45.440 --> 02:25:47.720
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Compensation Board, the target

asr-001930
02:25:47.720 --> 02:25:49.740
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for percentage of eligible

asr-001931
02:25:49.740 --> 02:25:51.780
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: claims awarded and

asr-001932
02:25:51.780 --> 02:25:53.460
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: paid is set at

asr-001933
02:25:53.460 --> 02:25:55.420
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 90%. Ilang

asr-001934
02:25:55.420 --> 02:25:57.540
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: claimants po ang

asr-001935
02:25:57.540 --> 02:25:59.300
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: maa-award kung ma-hit

asr-001936
02:25:59.300 --> 02:26:01.540
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang 90% target at ilan

asr-001937
02:26:01.540 --> 02:26:03.220
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: naman ang matitira na

asr-001938
02:26:03.220 --> 02:26:04.800
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kailangan pang bayaran

asr-001939
02:26:04.800 --> 02:26:06.260
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So

asr-001940
02:26:06.260 --> 02:26:09.360
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker

asr-001941
02:26:09.360 --> 02:26:10.620
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: sa 2027

asr-001942
02:26:10.620 --> 02:26:12.540
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: budget

asr-001943
02:26:12.540 --> 02:26:15.820
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ang 90% is 684

asr-001944
02:26:15.820 --> 02:26:17.760
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: claimants

asr-001945
02:26:17.760 --> 02:26:25.100
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, 90% is

asr-001946
02:26:25.100 --> 02:26:27.360
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 684

asr-001947
02:26:27.540 --> 02:26:29.780
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: and the remaining claimants

asr-001948
02:26:29.780 --> 02:26:30.880
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: is 3,600

asr-001949
02:26:30.880 --> 02:26:33.320
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: I'm sorry, Mr. Sponsor

asr-001950
02:26:33.320 --> 02:26:35.100
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pakiulit lamang po

asr-001951
02:26:35.100 --> 02:26:37.000
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 684

asr-001952
02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:39.440
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: claimants ang 90%

asr-001953
02:26:39.440 --> 02:26:40.440
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang matitira

asr-001954
02:26:40.440 --> 02:26:44.940
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang remaining claimants is

asr-001955
02:26:44.940 --> 02:26:45.940
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 3,600

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02:26:45.940 --> 02:26:50.940
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Because the budget is only

asr-001957
02:26:50.940 --> 02:26:53.720
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 1 billion pesos

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02:26:53.720 --> 02:26:55.260
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker

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02:26:55.260 --> 02:26:55.660
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Your Honor

asr-001960
02:26:55.660 --> 02:26:57.380
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, magkano ang total

asr-001961
02:26:57.380 --> 02:26:59.240
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: budget allocated to reach

asr-001962
02:26:59.240 --> 02:27:00.360
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: this target po?

asr-001963
02:27:01.400 --> 02:27:02.980
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, we need

asr-001964
02:27:02.980 --> 02:27:05.140
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 7.6

asr-001965
02:27:05.140 --> 02:27:06.220
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: billion

asr-001966
02:27:06.220 --> 02:27:07.720
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: to

asr-001967
02:27:07.720 --> 02:27:10.920
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: accommodate all the claimants

asr-001968
02:27:10.920 --> 02:27:12.760
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: for the

asr-001969
02:27:12.760 --> 02:27:15.080
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: compensation of

asr-001970
02:27:15.080 --> 02:27:16.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: all the claimants

asr-001971
02:27:16.860 --> 02:27:19.140
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam, Mr.

asr-001972
02:27:19.300 --> 02:27:21.180
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Speaker, Mr. Sponsor

asr-001973
02:27:21.180 --> 02:27:22.900
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kung sakaling hindi maabot ang

asr-001974
02:27:22.900 --> 02:27:25.240
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 90% target, ano po

asr-001975
02:27:25.240 --> 02:27:26.980
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang budgetary implications

asr-001976
02:27:27.380 --> 02:27:29.740
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: may reallocation plan po ba

asr-001977
02:27:29.740 --> 02:27:31.560
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para masiguro na hindi

asr-001978
02:27:31.560 --> 02:27:32.980
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: masasayang ang pondo?

asr-001979
02:27:34.880 --> 02:27:35.340
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually,

asr-001980
02:27:36.040 --> 02:27:37.040
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker,

asr-001981
02:27:37.560 --> 02:27:37.980
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Your Honor

asr-001982
02:27:37.980 --> 02:27:41.380
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: yung remaining budget

asr-001983
02:27:41.380 --> 02:27:42.920
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: meron naman tayong continuing

asr-001984
02:27:42.920 --> 02:27:44.680
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: appropriation for

asr-001985
02:27:44.680 --> 02:27:46.040
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 2028

asr-001986
02:27:46.040 --> 02:27:47.580
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So,

asr-001987
02:27:49.640 --> 02:27:51.140
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: magagamit din

asr-001988
02:27:51.140 --> 02:27:53.060
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: budget natin sa

asr-001989
02:27:53.060 --> 02:27:54.220
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 2027

asr-001990
02:27:54.900 --> 02:27:57.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero sumatotal po,

asr-001991
02:27:57.000 --> 02:27:58.880
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, yung 1 billion

asr-001992
02:27:58.880 --> 02:28:00.660
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: in the

asr-001993
02:28:00.660 --> 02:28:03.340
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: first quarter

asr-001994
02:28:03.340 --> 02:28:05.140
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ma-utilize na yung

asr-001995
02:28:05.140 --> 02:28:06.480
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 1 billion

asr-001996
02:28:06.480 --> 02:28:08.280
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: budget

asr-001997
02:28:08.280 --> 02:28:11.560
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero sumatotal po, ang kinakailangan ninyo

asr-001998
02:28:11.560 --> 02:28:13.920
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para makompensate na po

asr-001999
02:28:13.920 --> 02:28:15.100
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang kabuo ang

asr-002000
02:28:15.100 --> 02:28:17.560
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: beneficiaries natin ay

asr-002001
02:28:17.560 --> 02:28:19.060
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sinabi nyo po kanina na sa

asr-002002
02:28:19.060 --> 02:28:20.920
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 7.6 billion, tama po?

asr-002003
02:28:21.380 --> 02:28:22.120
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po yan

asr-002004
02:28:22.120 --> 02:28:25.420
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin, for 2027

asr-002005
02:28:25.420 --> 02:28:26.960
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: up to 2028

asr-002006
02:28:27.380 --> 02:28:27.880
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 8,

asr-002007
02:28:28.360 --> 02:28:31.360
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lumalabas na hindi man lang tayo

asr-002008
02:28:31.360 --> 02:28:33.800
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kumakalahati sa kailangan

asr-002009
02:28:33.800 --> 02:28:35.620
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng Marawi Compensation Board

asr-002010
02:28:35.620 --> 02:28:36.300
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba?

asr-002011
02:28:36.820 --> 02:28:39.100
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Totoo po yan, kung hindi po madadagdagan

asr-002012
02:28:39.100 --> 02:28:42.640
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ang budget ng Marawi Compensation Board

asr-002013
02:28:42.640 --> 02:28:45.940
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor

asr-002014
02:28:45.940 --> 02:28:47.600
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hanggang kailan na lang po ito

asr-002015
02:28:47.600 --> 02:28:49.580
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang plano ng MCB?

asr-002016
02:28:50.600 --> 02:28:51.360
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hanggang

asr-002017
02:28:51.360 --> 02:28:52.700
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: anong taon na lamang po?

asr-002018
02:28:53.500 --> 02:28:54.380
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Up to

asr-002019
02:28:54.380 --> 02:28:56.500
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: May

asr-002020
02:28:56.500 --> 02:28:58.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 31, 2028

asr-002021
02:28:58.860 --> 02:29:00.720
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 2028

asr-002022
02:29:00.720 --> 02:29:03.020
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So kung sakali man, 1 billion

asr-002023
02:29:03.020 --> 02:29:04.960
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ngayong 2027

asr-002024
02:29:04.960 --> 02:29:06.620
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: at sabihin na natin

asr-002025
02:29:06.620 --> 02:29:08.700
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 1 billion na naman sa 2028

asr-002026
02:29:08.700 --> 02:29:11.100
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lumalabas na hindi po talaga

asr-002027
02:29:11.100 --> 02:29:12.700
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: makakompensate lahat

asr-002028
02:29:12.700 --> 02:29:15.100
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng ating mga beneficiaries

asr-002029
02:29:15.100 --> 02:29:16.820
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa Marawi Siege, tama po ba?

asr-002030
02:29:17.900 --> 02:29:18.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po yan

asr-002031
02:29:18.860 --> 02:29:20.180
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: dahil na

asr-002032
02:29:20.180 --> 02:29:22.240
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: kulang yung budget na

asr-002033
02:29:22.240 --> 02:29:24.920
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: sa NEP sa ngayon.

asr-002034
02:29:24.920 --> 02:29:25.740
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang

asr-002035
02:29:25.740 --> 02:29:26.480
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: pag-asa

asr-002036
02:29:26.500 --> 02:29:27.500
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na lang po natin ay

asr-002037
02:29:27.500 --> 02:29:28.500
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: kung sakaling

asr-002038
02:29:28.500 --> 02:29:31.500
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: madaragdagan yung budget.

asr-002039
02:29:31.500 --> 02:29:33.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, no?

asr-002040
02:29:33.500 --> 02:29:35.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Distinguished Sponsor

asr-002041
02:29:35.500 --> 02:29:37.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: May performance benchmark po ba

asr-002042
02:29:37.500 --> 02:29:39.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang MCB para sa

asr-002043
02:29:39.500 --> 02:29:41.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: claim processing speed at

asr-002044
02:29:41.500 --> 02:29:43.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: paano ito minomonitor at

asr-002045
02:29:43.500 --> 02:29:45.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nire-report sa publiko?

asr-002046
02:29:59.210 --> 02:30:02.250
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Meron tayong, merong

asr-002047
02:30:03.150 --> 02:30:04.640
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ah, performance

asr-002048
02:30:04.640 --> 02:30:05.760
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: benchmark.

asr-002049
02:30:05.800 --> 02:30:06.960
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: May quota every month

asr-002050
02:30:06.960 --> 02:30:09.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: from 320 to 350

asr-002051
02:30:09.860 --> 02:30:11.600
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: claimants resolved.

asr-002052
02:30:18.220 --> 02:30:19.420
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: And then,

asr-002053
02:30:20.180 --> 02:30:22.220
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: yung progress report

asr-002054
02:30:22.220 --> 02:30:24.120
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: every month, nagsa-submit sila

asr-002055
02:30:24.120 --> 02:30:25.540
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: sa Office of the President

asr-002056
02:30:25.540 --> 02:30:27.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: of MRD,

asr-002057
02:30:27.860 --> 02:30:28.660
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: MRD,

asr-002058
02:30:29.160 --> 02:30:30.500
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: PBM, and to the board,

asr-002059
02:30:30.740 --> 02:30:32.040
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: check if quota is reached.

asr-002060
02:30:33.860 --> 02:30:34.620
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Reporting

asr-002061
02:30:34.620 --> 02:30:36.220
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: through social media,

asr-002062
02:30:37.480 --> 02:30:38.780
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: weekly posts indicating

asr-002063
02:30:38.780 --> 02:30:39.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: the docket numbers,

asr-002064
02:30:40.140 --> 02:30:42.240
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: through

asr-002065
02:30:42.240 --> 02:30:44.320
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ocular inspection so they can track

asr-002066
02:30:44.320 --> 02:30:45.780
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: when it's their turn

asr-002067
02:30:45.780 --> 02:30:47.360
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: to be inspected.

asr-002068
02:30:50.500 --> 02:30:51.900
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Meron pong docket system

asr-002069
02:30:51.900 --> 02:30:54.080
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: where the claimant can ask online

asr-002070
02:30:54.080 --> 02:30:56.060
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: for the status of their claim,

asr-002071
02:30:57.560 --> 02:30:57.840
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: where

asr-002072
02:30:57.840 --> 02:30:59.880
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: they can enter name, DACET number,

asr-002073
02:31:00.060 --> 02:31:01.900
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ID, then information of

asr-002074
02:31:01.900 --> 02:31:03.680
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: officer of MCB can check

asr-002075
02:31:03.680 --> 02:31:06.000
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: the status and will reply

asr-002076
02:31:06.000 --> 02:31:06.740
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: via email

asr-002077
02:31:06.740 --> 02:31:08.880
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: regarding the status.

asr-002078
02:31:10.340 --> 02:31:11.780
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po.

asr-002079
02:31:12.140 --> 02:31:13.640
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Under the 2027

asr-002080
02:31:13.640 --> 02:31:15.980
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: budget po of the MCB,

asr-002081
02:31:16.520 --> 02:31:17.840
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: meron bang budget

asr-002082
02:31:17.840 --> 02:31:19.880
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for support services like roads

asr-002083
02:31:19.880 --> 02:31:21.040
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: and transportation,

asr-002084
02:31:21.760 --> 02:31:23.900
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: especially those who were relocated

asr-002085
02:31:23.900 --> 02:31:25.240
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: in other areas po?

asr-002086
02:31:27.840 --> 02:31:35.820
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang budget po natin ay para sa

asr-002087
02:31:35.820 --> 02:31:37.840
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Marawi Siege Victims

asr-002088
02:31:37.840 --> 02:31:39.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Compensation only.

asr-002089
02:31:39.620 --> 02:31:42.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin wala po tayo dito

asr-002090
02:31:42.000 --> 02:31:43.860
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for support services. Tama po.

asr-002091
02:31:44.180 --> 02:31:45.220
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Wala po.

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02:31:45.220 --> 02:31:47.170
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po.

asr-002092
02:31:47.590 --> 02:31:49.600
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As a follow-up,

asr-002093
02:31:49.600 --> 02:31:51.080
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: does the MCB have a plan

asr-002094
02:31:51.080 --> 02:31:52.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: for the provision of making the

asr-002095
02:31:52.500 --> 02:31:54.560
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: relocation dignified

asr-002096
02:31:54.560 --> 02:31:56.200
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: and sustainable for the

asr-002097
02:31:56.200 --> 02:31:57.340
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Marawi Siege Victims?

asr-002106
02:32:39.240 --> 02:32:52.710
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So tuloy-tuloy po ang pagresolba ng mga kailangan ng mga claim [unclear].

asr-002107
02:32:53.770 --> 02:33:19.570
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, distinguished sponsor, or no? Naintindihan ko po ito. So under the Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Act, na lamang po few years left. Gaya ng nasabi ko kanina, nasagot niyo rin na hanggang 2028 na lang to fulfill the mandate of the Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Act.

asr-002108
02:33:20.250 --> 02:33:46.250
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngayon, dahil sa napakaliit ng inyong pondo kada taon at medyo malaki pa ang kailangan para ma-complete ito, ano po ba yung concrete timeline or milestone ng MCB to ensure na yung full disbursement po natin sa ating mga beneficiaries [unclear] sunset provision takes effect?

asr-002109
02:34:04.190 --> 02:34:17.740
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, it depends on the available budget, and MCB will ensure that it will continue its adjudication function despite [unclear].

asr-002110
02:34:18.820 --> 02:34:35.820
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po ba nito, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, sakaling hindi po nabigay yung full amount of budget natin hanggang 2028, ibig sabihin wala na pong continuation ng plan na ito.

asr-002111
02:34:36.340 --> 02:34:43.520
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi na po talaga makukompensate yung mga beneficiaries na hindi napagbigyan dahil po lang sa pondo.

asr-002112
02:34:45.520 --> 02:34:48.520
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, after the last...

asr-002113
02:34:48.820 --> 02:35:06.040
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: After the last lifespan of this MCB, it will be turned over to DHSUD for the [unclear] implementation of giving compensation.

asr-002114
02:35:06.640 --> 02:35:18.240
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po. Mr. Sponsor, yung opisina ko po, we've received reports from CSOs that confusion has arisen among claimants.

asr-002115
02:35:18.240 --> 02:35:18.800
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: confusion has arisen among claimants.

asr-002116
02:35:18.820 --> 02:35:30.380
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dahil sa paglipat ng thousands of property damage claims sa NHA, maaari bang ipaliwanag ang dahilan ng transfer na ito?

asr-002117
02:35:31.980 --> 02:35:32.180
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ah.

asr-002118
02:35:34.120 --> 02:35:46.080
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, there's a moa between MCB and NHA.

asr-002121
02:35:48.820 --> 02:35:59.320
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: In transferring the claim under Section 5 of Republic Act 11696 to the National Housing Authority.

asr-002122
02:36:00.440 --> 02:36:01.160
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po.

asr-002123
02:36:01.620 --> 02:36:04.260
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So, yun, Mr. Speaker.

asr-002124
02:36:05.480 --> 02:36:07.720
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po, Mr. Sponsor.

asr-002125
02:36:07.940 --> 02:36:18.260
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano po kaya natin masisiguro na ang MCB, hindi na ito magdudulot ng dagdag na stress at further trauma?

asr-002126
02:36:18.820 --> 02:36:24.560
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa ating mga biktima ng Marawi siege, lalo pat, ito transfer na natin sa NHA.

asr-002127
02:36:25.040 --> 02:36:39.460
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kasi po, may nareceive po kaming informations na kung sakali ma-transfer na ito sa NHA, dagdag stress daw po ito sa kanila dahil magre-reset na naman daw po sila ng kanilang mga requirements.

asr-002128
02:36:48.820 --> 02:37:03.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Hindi naman, Mr. Speaker, hindi naman matitigil yung, hindi sila, hindi magbabak to zero ang MCB.

asr-002130
02:37:04.620 --> 02:37:12.540
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kumbaga, kung ano yung natapos, itutuloy lamang ng NHA.

asr-002131
02:37:12.560 --> 02:37:13.380
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po.

asr-002132
02:37:13.460 --> 02:37:18.660
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Finally, distinguished sponsor, anong mekanism ang pinapairal ng MCB

asr-002139
02:37:18.700 --> 02:37:29.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: para ang compensation process ay hindi lamang mabilis kundi transparent at free from bureaucratic delays or inconsistencies?

asr-002140
02:37:39.000 --> 02:37:48.800
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Speaker, as a quasi-judicial body, we have to ensure na tama at eligible ang mga babayaran.

asr-002141
02:37:48.800 --> 02:38:18.780
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: But from time to time, we regularly review and streamline the process. The process generally involves filing, technical and legal evaluation, clarification hearing when necessary, deliberation and decision by the Board, posting, publication, and awarding and payment. For structural claims there must first be technical assessment,

asr-002142
02:38:18.780 --> 02:38:48.760
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: which may involve validation and ocular inspection. Claims then undergo legal evaluation before being raffled to a division for adjudication. We have streamlined the process by allowing claims below 10 million to be decided at the division level instead of requiring every claim to undergo en banc deliberation, thereby removing a significant [unclear].

asr-002143
02:38:48.760 --> 02:39:01.380
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Aside from regular reporting and monitoring of accomplishment, mentioned earlier including assessment of quota rates, available din po ang mga reporting data through the website.

asr-002144
02:39:02.400 --> 02:39:05.820
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: That's to be transparent.

asr-002145
02:39:06.480 --> 02:39:06.680
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes.

asr-002146
02:39:06.980 --> 02:39:09.660
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po, Distinguished Sponsor.

asr-002147
02:39:10.180 --> 02:39:15.860
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, nine years ago na po ang Marawi siege.

asr-002148
02:39:15.860 --> 02:39:31.280
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakakabahala na hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin makuha ng ating mga kapatid sa Marawi ang hustisya para sa kanilang mga pamilya, mga mahal sa buhay at bahay at kabuhayang nawala.

asr-002149
02:39:32.000 --> 02:39:35.080
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi tayo po papayag na mambigo natin sila.

asr-002150
02:39:35.080 --> 02:39:45.840
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, makita naman po natin ang prioridad dito sa pag-compensate po natin.

asr-002151
02:39:45.840 --> 02:39:48.700
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa mga naging biktima po ng Marawi siege.

asr-002152
02:39:49.500 --> 02:40:07.160
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung sa, kung 1 billion pesos po ang kanilang pondo right now na sinasabi po ng MCB na ito ay kulang at ang kailangan nila hanggang sa matapos itong lahat ay nasa 7.6 billion, eh mukhang hindi po ata natin ito tinutupad.

asr-002153
02:40:07.680 --> 02:40:13.900
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At hindi po tayo nagiging compliant sa naging batas po natin, no?

asr-002154
02:40:13.900 --> 02:40:14.840
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, sana.

asr-002155
02:40:15.840 --> 02:40:24.780
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, madagdagan naman po natin itong budget po ng MCB. Maraming salamat po.

asr-002156
02:40:39.500 --> 02:40:40.500
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-002157
02:40:40.500 --> 02:40:45.500
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize Representative...

asr-002158
02:40:45.840 --> 02:40:50.500
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Rene Luis Co.

asr-002158-split-2
02:40:50.500 --> 02:40:54.080
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Rene Luis Co is recognized for her interpellation.

asr-002159
02:40:54.560 --> 02:40:55.240
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Please proceed.

asr-002160
02:40:56.780 --> 02:41:03.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, and good evening for Distinguished Sponsor and the Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-002161
02:41:04.660 --> 02:41:09.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Gusto ko lang pong mag-take off doon sa questioning ng ating colleague.

asr-002162
02:41:10.500 --> 02:41:14.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kung saan, binring up niya po at magpapa-explain sa...

asr-002163
02:41:15.840 --> 02:41:18.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ...recent Memorandum of Agreement.

asr-002164
02:41:18.060 --> 02:41:37.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po ay nasa news reports, and mismo ang Marawi Compensation Board po ang nagpahayag na yung mga kaso for compensation were transferred to the jurisdiction of the NHA.

asr-002165
02:41:37.960 --> 02:41:41.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pwede po bang malaman yung basis, legal basis, for this transfer?

asr-002167
02:41:44.720 --> 02:41:45.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ...

asr-002169
02:41:51.640 --> 02:42:02.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, ang basis po ay yung Section 4 and Section 5 of Republic Act 11690.

asr-002170
02:42:04.000 --> 02:42:14.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Na doon po nagsasabi, may nakalagay po doon na ang NHA po ang maghahawak or ipapahawak or pwedeng ipahawak sa ibang ahensya.

asr-002171
02:42:15.840 --> 02:42:23.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ipapag natapos na po or nag-proceed na sa sunset clause ng Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-002172
02:42:39.150 --> 02:42:39.590
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Thank you.

asr-002173
02:42:45.840 --> 02:42:57.260
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues,

asr-002174
02:42:57.260 --> 02:43:20.400
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Under the sunset clause, yun ang D-SUD ang mag-implement ng pangsyon ng Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-002175
02:43:21.540 --> 02:43:26.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maari po bang makahingi po ng kopya ang representasyong ito?

asr-002176
02:43:27.260 --> 02:43:37.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa mga memorandums of agreement between the NCM and the NHA regarding that transfer, Madam Speaker.

asr-002177
02:43:37.980 --> 02:43:45.120
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: We will give you a copy of the memorandum of agreement, Madam Speaker.

asr-002178
02:43:45.780 --> 02:43:48.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po ang NCM and NHA.

asr-002179
02:43:51.720 --> 02:43:57.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Considering that there is clear basis, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, in Section 5,

asr-002180
02:43:57.260 --> 02:44:02.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: RA 11696 as to the compensation under the right of way,

asr-002181
02:44:03.080 --> 02:44:10.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: would MCB know if there was a line item under the NHA to fund compensation for these transferred cases?

asr-002182
02:44:10.380 --> 02:44:23.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Alam naman po natin na dahil po sa siege, marami pong mga daanan ang nasira at kung ano pong kailangang repairs na kailangang gawin.

asr-002183
02:44:23.680 --> 02:44:26.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is the MCB aware na may line item?

asr-002184
02:44:27.260 --> 02:44:31.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: O ba ang NHA to fund compensation for these transferred cases?

asr-002185
02:44:37.280 --> 02:44:42.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For the year 2027, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, wala pong...

asr-002186
02:44:42.580 --> 02:44:43.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Wala po.

asr-002187
02:44:44.520 --> 02:44:48.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Considering the following, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

asr-002188
02:44:48.880 --> 02:44:57.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we will make a manifestation that the Committee on Appropriations make the needed amendment to the budget of NHA.

asr-002189
02:44:57.260 --> 02:45:00.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To ensure that these amounts are funded.

asr-002190
02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:21.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: under the GAA. Sayang naman po kung may ganito ngang MOA o kung hindi man po for implementation ngayon ay magkakaroon po ang NHA ng role for compensation of these transferred cases pero hindi naman po mababadyetan. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, let that show on the record.

asr-002191
02:45:21.360 --> 02:45:45.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang susunod ko pong tanong Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, malapit po sa puso ng kinatawan na ito ay kung kamusta po ang pag-aaral ng mga apektadong kabataang maranaw tungkol po sa state ng schooling, infrastructure, and yung pagtutuloy-tuloy nilang pag-aaral.

asr-002192
02:45:45.440 --> 02:45:51.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, does the MCV have a list of schools that were affected by the siege?

asr-002193
02:45:51.360 --> 02:45:59.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po, sila po ba ay naayos na? Kung hindi pa kumpleto ang pagsasayayos sa kanilang lahat, ano po ang status sa ngayon?

asr-002194
02:46:00.740 --> 02:46:18.260
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Madam Speaker, Your Honor, ang status po, meron na pong 10 four-story school buildings with a capacity of 9,000 to 10,000 students.

asr-002195
02:46:18.260 --> 02:46:21.340
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: By next month, according to the NHA,

asr-002196
02:46:21.360 --> 02:46:31.740
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na meron nang malilipatan next month, Madam Speaker.

asr-002196-split-2
02:46:31.740 --> 02:46:36.210
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, tama po ba narinig ko: ten buildings?

asr-002196-split-3
02:46:36.210 --> 02:46:40.090
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ten four-story buildings.

asr-002196-split-4
02:46:40.090 --> 02:46:46.210
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ten four-story buildings na kaya pong mag-house in ng 9,000 to 10,000 students.

asr-002196-split-5
02:46:46.210 --> 02:46:49.120
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes.

asr-002197
02:46:49.140 --> 02:46:58.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At sa ngayon ay hindi pa po ito bukas, ongoing ang construction. Next month ay bubuksan na. Tama po ba, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

asr-002198
02:46:59.000 --> 02:47:01.820
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po yan, Madam Speaker, Your Honor.

asr-002199
02:47:02.260 --> 02:47:12.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, prior po to next month or as of now, saan po nag-aaral ang mga kabataan?

asr-002200
02:47:15.440 --> 02:47:19.660
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, meron namang temporary school.

asr-002201
02:47:21.360 --> 02:47:24.620
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Binigay ng LGU, Madam Speaker, Your Honor.

asr-002202
02:47:25.420 --> 02:47:49.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, maghihingi na lang po, kung maaari, ang kinatawan na ito ng listahan ng mga paaralan na ayos na, aayusin pa, ano pong kailangang status para po ma-check kung maayos po bang naitatawid ang access to education ng mga kabataan.

asr-002203
02:47:49.180 --> 02:47:51.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Posible po ba yan, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor?

asr-002204
02:47:51.360 --> 02:47:53.360
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes.

asr-002205
02:47:55.420 --> 02:47:57.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

asr-002206
02:47:58.800 --> 02:48:04.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang huling nating line of questioning ay tungkol po sa na-bring up na rin po ay restitution.

asr-002207
02:48:05.980 --> 02:48:18.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, isang dekada na halos pagkatapos ng 2017 siege, full restitution remains an unfulfilled promise for thousands of Maranaos.

asr-002208
02:48:19.480 --> 02:48:26.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: While the Marawi Compensation Board was authorized under RA 11696 to compensate victims,

asr-002209
02:48:26.600 --> 02:48:35.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron nga po tayong natanggap na report na 3,100 housing-related claims are being offloaded to NHA.

asr-002210
02:48:36.200 --> 02:48:44.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Habang thousands of internally displaced persons or IDPs remain stranded in temporary shelters nearly a decade later.

asr-002211
02:48:44.780 --> 02:48:50.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron tayong mga paunang explanation ng mga kahirapan sa mga...

asr-002212
02:48:51.360 --> 02:49:12.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: listahan, sa records, na sa atin, no, kailangan pong masikap na maigpawan para po mabilis na mabigay na sa mga IDPs at hanggang ngayon ay hindi pa rin nakakamit ng justisya dahil po sa nangyari.

asr-002213
02:49:12.920 --> 02:49:21.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang tatanong ko na lang po, ano po bang measures in place ang nariyan po ngayon sa Marawi Compensation Board to prevent,

asr-002214
02:49:21.360 --> 02:49:29.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: files from getting lost in bureaucratic transitions? Meron po tayong paglilipat ng records na ibibigay sa NHA.

asr-002215
02:49:29.960 --> 02:49:40.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano natin may ensure na yung listahan na po ito, kumpleto, ito po ay na-check na, kumbaga, at hindi po mawawala?

asr-002216
02:50:09.150 --> 02:50:21.340
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Madam Speaker, mayroon pong signed terms of reference ang MCB at saka ang NHA

asr-002217
02:50:21.360 --> 02:50:32.240
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: para sigurado na maayos yung transition of files ng MCB to NHA.

asr-002218
02:50:33.200 --> 02:50:42.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So nagbibigay po ng paninigurado at commitment ang MCV na ang transition ng mga documents ay magiging maayos,

asr-002219
02:50:42.840 --> 02:50:49.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi po sana mawawala yung mga listahan at kung may validation na kailangan gawin ay gagawin po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

asr-002220
02:50:49.580 --> 02:50:50.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tama po ba yun?

asr-002221
02:50:51.360 --> 02:50:53.160
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor, Madam Speaker.

asr-002222
02:50:54.160 --> 02:51:09.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ang huli na lang nating tanong ay nakita naman natin na nakakaantig ng puso na a small fraction of the targeted permanent housing units

asr-002223
02:51:09.480 --> 02:51:13.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang natuturn over pa lamang sa displaced residents.

asr-002224
02:51:14.900 --> 02:51:21.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron po bang concrete steps na ginagawa to accelerate turnover?

asr-002225
02:51:21.360 --> 02:51:22.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

asr-002226
02:51:31.980 --> 02:51:37.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, wala na sa MCV yun.

asr-002227
02:51:37.200 --> 02:51:50.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: NHA na ang mag-continue ng lahat ng dapat ayusin para tuloy-tuloy na mabigyan ng mga...

asr-002228
02:51:51.360 --> 02:51:54.060
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na claimants ng competition.

asr-002229
02:51:54.980 --> 02:51:58.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero tama po ba, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, wala pa sa NHA sa ngayon.

asr-002230
02:51:58.560 --> 02:52:09.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, nasa kapangyarihan pa rin po ng MCV sa ngayon na tumaha ng concrete steps to accelerate unit turnover.

asr-002231
02:52:10.680 --> 02:52:16.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, baka po pwedeng makapagdetali ano po yung pwedeng magawa para po mas mapabilis pa.

asr-002232
02:52:16.780 --> 02:52:21.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na't ayaw din naman nating paabutin sa sunset clause.

asr-002233
02:52:21.360 --> 02:52:30.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, bago po, may marami pa rin naghihintay dito sa turnover.

asr-002234
02:52:40.320 --> 02:52:47.460
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang NHA ang sa settlement at ang MCB ay sa compensation lang.

asr-002235
02:52:49.320 --> 02:52:50.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

asr-002236
02:52:50.860 --> 02:52:54.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marami pa rin pong may concerns sa Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-002237
02:52:54.620 --> 02:53:00.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magiging bukas po ba ang MCV sa isang dialogo sa mga internally displaced persons,

asr-002238
02:53:01.860 --> 02:53:08.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa lahat ng mga apektadong sektor para po mas mapabilis yung hindi lang turnover ng unit,

asr-002239
02:53:09.380 --> 02:53:17.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pero ma-streamline yung concerns at maayos na matawid yung kanilang mga hinahing para po maaksyonan ng MCV?

asr-002240
02:53:18.580 --> 02:53:20.720
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Willing po ang MCV na...

asr-002241
02:53:20.860 --> 02:53:32.180
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Makipag-dialog para sa lahat ng kailangan gawin sa mga claimants, Your Honor, Mr. Speaker.

asr-002242
02:53:33.180 --> 02:53:43.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po. Let the record reflect ang pagbukas sa dialogo na gusto po natin sa susunod at sa malapit na panahon ay mangyari

asr-002243
02:53:43.700 --> 02:53:50.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para po yung ating mga naging issue na ina-identify ay mabilis po.

asr-002244
02:53:50.860 --> 02:53:58.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At sana po yung NHA, sila din po ay appraised nun sa mga steps na tinitake natin.

asr-002245
02:53:58.620 --> 02:54:01.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, that is all. Thank you very much.

asr-002246
02:54:01.140 --> 02:54:01.960
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-002247
02:54:02.280 --> 02:54:07.340
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, may recognize Representative Sara Elago for her interpellation.

asr-002248
02:54:07.520 --> 02:54:10.300
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Elago is hereby recognized for interpellation.

asr-002249
02:54:13.800 --> 02:54:15.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

asr-002250
02:54:15.620 --> 02:54:20.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nais ko na lamang pong maituloy yung pagtatanong ng ating mga kasamahan tungkol sa...

asr-002251
02:54:20.860 --> 02:54:22.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PONDO ng MCB.

asr-002252
02:54:24.700 --> 02:54:33.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ayon ho sa ulat ng MCB, as of August 31, 2026, mayroon itong 4.362 billion total appropriations,

asr-002253
02:54:34.160 --> 02:54:37.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung saan 2.362 billion ang released allotments.

asr-002254
02:54:38.100 --> 02:54:45.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakasaad din na mayroon pang 2 billion pesos na unallocated amount pending further release from DBM.

asr-002255
02:54:45.000 --> 02:54:46.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari ba nating malaman?

asr-002256
02:54:47.320 --> 02:54:50.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano ang dahilan kung bakit hindi pa nailalabas ang natitirapan?

asr-002257
02:54:50.860 --> 02:54:52.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Parang 2 billion pesos.

asr-002258
02:55:03.780 --> 02:55:12.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, hindi pa na-re-release yung 2 billion from DBM, Your Honor.

asr-002259
02:55:14.400 --> 02:55:18.260
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: And I have the review pa ng DBM, Your Honor.

asr-002260
02:55:19.540 --> 02:55:20.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At Madam Speaker,

asr-002261
02:55:20.860 --> 02:55:22.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay ma-re-release na ito.

asr-002262
02:55:22.180 --> 02:55:29.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil sinabi din ng MCB na pagkatapos ng 2026 ay wala na silang matitira na pondo.

asr-002263
02:55:30.040 --> 02:55:38.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na para sa 2027 ay napakaliit lamang ng kanilang pondo na naisama sa General Appropriations Bill

asr-002264
02:55:38.700 --> 02:55:42.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: habang napakaraming mga pending pang-claims.

asr-002265
02:55:43.140 --> 02:55:50.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, ang MCB po ay nailikha sa ilalim ng Republic Act No. 11696 at nagsimula.

asr-002266
02:55:50.860 --> 02:55:55.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang operations noong January 30, 2023.

asr-002267
02:55:56.040 --> 02:56:00.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakatakdang matapos ang five-year mandate nito sa June 3, 2028.

asr-002268
02:56:00.620 --> 02:56:05.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: As of August 2026, may halos dalawang taon na lamang ang board.

asr-002269
02:56:06.280 --> 02:56:13.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa kasalukuyang mga backlog at funding requirements na narinig po natin sa ating deliberasyon ngayong gabi,

asr-002270
02:56:13.940 --> 02:56:23.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kumpiyansa po ba ang Marawi Compensation Board na matatapos nito ang lahat ng statutory responsibilities nito

asr-002271
02:56:23.600 --> 02:56:25.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bago mag-expire ang kanyang mandato?

asr-002272
02:56:28.020 --> 02:56:29.900
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Your Honor, Madam Speaker,

asr-002273
02:56:30.960 --> 02:56:37.820
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: pagdating sa adjudication process, matatapos nila,

asr-002274
02:56:38.900 --> 02:56:48.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: ang hindi lang nila magagawa ay yung makapag-disburse dahil kulang ang ating pondong inilaan

asr-002275
02:56:48.860 --> 02:56:49.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: para sa mga...

asr-002276
02:56:50.860 --> 02:56:55.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Narinig natin, Madam Speaker, na kulang ang pondo.

asr-002277
02:56:55.940 --> 02:57:01.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At kung hindi matatapos ang lahat ng claims bago ang June 2028,

asr-002278
02:57:01.760 --> 02:57:04.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron bang contingency plan ang ating pamahalaan?

asr-002279
02:57:05.940 --> 02:57:12.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sino ang magpapatuloy ng proseso ng pagtitiyak ng compensation,

asr-002280
02:57:12.740 --> 02:57:16.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng reparation, lahat ng pagbabayad ng remaining claims?

asr-002281
02:57:18.000 --> 02:57:20.580
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, Madam Speaker, Your Honor,

asr-002282
02:57:20.860 --> 02:57:25.300
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: nasa batas naman na ang magti-takeover ay ang DHSUD.

asr-002283
02:57:26.680 --> 02:57:35.300
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: So, DHSUD na ang magpapatuloy para sa processing ng mga compensation para sa mga claimant.

asr-002284
02:57:37.700 --> 02:57:39.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Disyud na ang magpapatuloy.

asr-002285
02:57:39.920 --> 02:57:47.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit, paano po maapektuhan ang inyong trabaho ng Executive Order No. 78

asr-002286
02:57:47.340 --> 02:57:50.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pinirmahan noong November 28, 2024?

asr-002287
02:57:50.860 --> 02:57:56.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sabi po dito ang magsisilbi na sekretariat

asr-002288
02:57:56.220 --> 02:58:07.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or magiging attached ang board dito sa Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation and Development

asr-002289
02:58:07.580 --> 02:58:10.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para daw po sa policy and program coordination

asr-002290
02:58:10.960 --> 02:58:16.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para matiyak ang consistency ng goals at objectives ng MCB

asr-002291
02:58:16.160 --> 02:58:19.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa lahat ng policies at trust ng national government.

asr-002292
02:58:19.340 --> 02:58:20.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin po ba nito?

asr-002293
02:58:20.860 --> 02:58:29.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maski po yung role ninyo bilang attached sa Office of the Presidential Advisor for Marawi Rehabilitation and Development

asr-002294
02:58:29.860 --> 02:58:32.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay hanggang 2028 na lamang po?

asr-002295
02:58:38.860 --> 02:58:49.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mukhang ganun po ang mangyayari dahil yung MCB wala nang tapos na yung kanilang lifespan.

asr-002296
02:58:50.860 --> 02:58:56.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, kung ang mga miyembro ngayon ng Marawi Compensation Board

asr-002297
02:58:56.860 --> 02:59:03.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pipili at poposisyon, sa tingin niyo po ba dapat i-extend ang mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board

asr-002298
02:59:03.860 --> 02:59:09.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hanggat sa hindi natatapos yung pagbabayad ng mga remaining claims?

asr-002299
02:59:09.860 --> 02:59:16.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Siyempre po, dapat matiyak na matapos ito sa takdang panahon at hindi yung pangmatagalan.

asr-002300
02:59:16.860 --> 02:59:18.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kasi yun na nga yung nangyari po ngayon.

asr-002301
02:59:18.860 --> 02:59:19.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Natumagal na.

asr-002302
02:59:19.860 --> 02:59:26.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na halos magsasampung taon na, nang hindi pa rin natitiyak yung mabilis na pagbabayad ng mga claims.

asr-002303
02:59:26.860 --> 02:59:35.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mas maganda sana kung makakaroon ng extension pero siguro makangailangan niya ng batas.

asr-002304
02:59:35.860 --> 02:59:47.860
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: May mga bills ang alam ko sa Congress at sa Senate to extend the life of Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-002305
02:59:47.860 --> 02:59:57.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ang datos mismo ng Marawi Compensation Board ay nagpapakita na malaki na ang pondong nailabas para sa Compensation Program.

asr-002306
02:59:57.860 --> 02:59:59.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit mayroon pa rin...

asr-002307
03:00:00.000 --> 03:00:05.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas malaking bilang pa ng claims na kailangang risolbahin at pondohan.

asr-002308
03:00:05.720 --> 03:00:11.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: As of August 2026, 5,945 claims remain pending.

asr-002309
03:00:12.300 --> 03:00:19.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ating 2027 General Appropriations Bill, naglalaan lamang ng 1 billion pesos para sa compensation program

asr-002310
03:00:19.920 --> 03:00:27.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kumpara sa malaking kinakailangan na 5.28 billion proposal ng board.

asr-002311
03:00:27.060 --> 03:00:35.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang funding gap ay tumataginting po napakalaki na 4.015 billion pesos.

asr-002312
03:00:35.520 --> 03:00:41.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya napakahalagang malinaw na hindi lamang kung gaano karaming claims ang naprocess,

asr-002313
03:00:41.800 --> 03:00:46.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi dapat may sapat at tiyak na pondo para sa lahat ng claimants,

asr-002314
03:00:46.780 --> 03:00:50.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na matitiyak natin na may mekanismo ng transparency,

asr-002315
03:00:51.120 --> 03:00:56.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matitiyak na ang bawat piso ng pondo ay madidiretsyo mismo sa mga claimants

asr-002316
03:00:56.380 --> 03:01:01.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ating mga kababayan na apektado bago matapos ang mandato ng board.

asr-002317
03:01:02.000 --> 03:01:08.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At bilang panghuli, kinatawagan na rin natin ang Kongreso na ito na magpatawag po sana tayo

asr-002318
03:01:08.440 --> 03:01:19.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagdinig tungkol sa potensyal sa posible na pag-extend ng taon ng mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board

asr-002319
03:01:19.260 --> 03:01:25.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para lang po sa interes ng karapatang pantao, para sa interes ng justisya,

asr-002320
03:01:25.180 --> 03:01:26.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa interes.

asr-002321
03:01:26.380 --> 03:01:37.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagtitiyak na nga nararapat na kompensasyon at reparasyon sa lahat ng mga 2017 Marawi Siege internally displaced persons.

asr-002322
03:01:37.740 --> 03:01:41.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming maraming salamat Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating distinguished sponsor.

asr-002323
03:01:42.380 --> 03:01:43.220
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-002324
03:01:45.100 --> 03:01:52.840
Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Antonio Tinio.

asr-002324-split-2
03:01:52.840 --> 03:01:55.790
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tinio is recognized

asr-002325
03:01:56.030 --> 03:01:57.400
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of ACT Teachers for his interpellation

asr-002326
03:01:57.400 --> 03:02:00.220
Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: on the proposed budget of the MCB.

asr-002327
03:02:02.460 --> 03:02:12.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, maraming na pong natanong at pasisimple na lang po natin

asr-002328
03:02:12.880 --> 03:02:20.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at ididin yung mga importanteng punto kaugnay sa budget ng Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-002329
03:02:21.800 --> 03:02:25.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pakikita nga po natin na ang proposed budget ay

asr-002330
03:02:26.380 --> 03:02:40.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.247 billion pesos at sa halagang yun ay 1 billion pesos ang para sa Marawi Siege Victims Compensation Fund.

asr-002331
03:02:41.660 --> 03:02:52.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nabanggit na po na papalapit na ang katapusan ng mandato ng Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-002332
03:02:52.800 --> 03:02:55.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sabi nga doon sa Republic Act 11696.

asr-002333
03:02:56.380 --> 03:02:59.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong sunset clause.

asr-002334
03:02:59.880 --> 03:03:00.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-002335
03:03:00.820 --> 03:03:01.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sabi rito,

asr-002336
03:03:01.600 --> 03:03:07.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The board shall complete its work within five years from the effectivity of the IRR.

asr-002337
03:03:08.320 --> 03:03:11.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: After such period, it shall become punctus officio.

asr-002338
03:03:13.620 --> 03:03:19.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagkatapos nun, ipapasa na sa DSUD.

asr-002339
03:03:20.180 --> 03:03:26.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The DSUD shall continue to exercise the powers and functions of the board.

asr-002341
03:03:26.200 --> 03:03:32.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to disburse and process any and all pending compensation due to qualified claimants.

asr-002342
03:03:33.460 --> 03:03:35.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun po ang nakatakda sa batas.

asr-002343
03:03:35.280 --> 03:03:44.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, dapat ituring ang sunset clause na ito bilang hamon sa kasalukuyang board.

asr-002344
03:03:45.380 --> 03:03:53.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Huwag na nating intayin na umabot yung deadline at may maiwan pang trabaho sa DSUD.

asr-002345
03:03:53.280 --> 03:03:55.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ngayon,

asr-002346
03:03:56.200 --> 03:03:58.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ulitin lang natin,

asr-002347
03:03:59.680 --> 03:04:02.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Pondo for Compensation ngayon ay 1 billion.

asr-002348
03:04:03.140 --> 03:04:06.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malinaw po, nadiinan na, kapos ito.

asr-002349
03:04:07.200 --> 03:04:14.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano po ang kailangan pa para makompleto ang trabaho ng compensation

asr-002350
03:04:14.140 --> 03:04:23.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bago marating yung dulo o wakas ng mandato

asr-002351
03:04:23.340 --> 03:04:24.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng

asr-002354
03:04:26.200 --> 03:04:29.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marawi Compensation Board? Ito po ay sa

asr-002355
03:04:29.200 --> 03:04:33.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: after May 31, 2028. Tama po ba?

asr-002356
03:04:33.200 --> 03:04:36.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po.

asr-002357
03:04:36.200 --> 03:04:43.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At magkano po ang kabuuang kailangan para sa ilang bilang ng mga victims?

asr-002358
03:04:43.200 --> 03:04:44.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Climants?

asr-002359
03:04:44.200 --> 03:04:47.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mangangailangan po tayo, Madam Speaker,

asr-002360
03:04:47.200 --> 03:04:49.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mr. Sponsor,

asr-002361
03:04:49.200 --> 03:04:51.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: distinguished colleague,

asr-002362
03:04:51.200 --> 03:04:54.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: na mga 6.6 billion

asr-002363
03:04:54.200 --> 03:04:55.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: on top of 1 billion.

asr-002364
03:04:55.200 --> 03:05:05.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, total kailangan, 7.6 billion for 2027, 1 billion lamang

asr-002365
03:05:05.200 --> 03:05:15.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nakalaan. At muli, yung 1 billion ay para sa ilang bilang po ito muli ng claimants?

asr-002366
03:05:15.200 --> 03:05:19.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 4,360 claimants.

asr-002367
03:05:19.200 --> 03:05:21.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4,000?

asr-002368
03:05:21.200 --> 03:05:24.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: For the total, 7.6 billion.

asr-002369
03:05:24.890 --> 03:05:25.250
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002370
03:05:25.680 --> 03:05:30.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Ang claimants na pwedeng mabigyan is 4,300.

asr-002371
03:05:30.200 --> 03:05:34.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4,300. So, yung 1 billion po, ilan lang po ang mabibigyan diyan?

asr-002372
03:05:34.200 --> 03:05:38.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 760.

asr-002373
03:05:38.200 --> 03:05:52.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 760 lamang po. So, well, sa proposed budget for 2027, nakatali po ang kamay

asr-002374
03:05:52.200 --> 03:05:56.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Marawi Compensation Board.

asr-002375
03:05:56.200 --> 03:05:59.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 700, ilan po?

asr-002376
03:05:59.200 --> 03:06:02.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 760 claimants.

asr-002377
03:06:02.200 --> 03:06:06.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 760 claimants lang po ang mabibigyan.

asr-002378
03:06:06.200 --> 03:06:20.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang usapin lang naman po rito ay ano ba ang kakayanin ng Marawi Compensation Board?

asr-002379
03:06:20.200 --> 03:06:41.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Padaling sabihin, dagdagan natin ang pondo pero kaya bang ma-award ng Marawi Compensation Board ang mas malaking bilang kesa dito sa 760 families?

asr-002380
03:06:41.200 --> 03:06:44.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang kayang gawin?

asr-002381
03:06:44.200 --> 03:06:54.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Distinguished colleague, Madam Speaker, kayang-kaya po yan. Ang kailangan lang po natin ay pondo.

asr-002382
03:06:54.200 --> 03:07:02.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kayang-kaya. Magbigay po tayo ng kongkretong numero. Ano ang kakayanin?

asr-002383
03:07:02.200 --> 03:07:08.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Actually, yung 760, one to two months.

asr-002384
03:07:08.200 --> 03:07:11.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In one to two months ay kaya po yan?

asr-002385
03:07:11.200 --> 03:07:12.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kaya bigyan.

asr-002386
03:07:12.200 --> 03:07:13.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Opo.

asr-002387
03:07:13.200 --> 03:07:25.200
Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Kung may pondo po tayo, eh bago mag-lapse yung mandato, mapoprovide po natin, mabibigyan po natin yung lahat ng claimants.

asr-002388
03:07:29.200 --> 03:07:41.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Baka may maibigay po kayong mas kongkretong target na kakayanin realistically sa isang taon, fiscal year 2027.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: We request the distinguished sponsor to give an estimate. Ilan ang kakayanin?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 3,500 sa isang taon, Your Honor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 3,500. Hindi lang 760, kundi 3,500 claimants ang kayang mabigyan.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Magkano po ang kailangan pondo para sa 3,500 na yan?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: 5 billion, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 5 billion pesos. Okay. So, kung may 1 billion na kailangan dagdagan ng 4, ganun po ba?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama po. Tama po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4 billion pesos additional.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4 billion.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Well, Madam Speaker, malinaw naman po narinig natin na sabi ng Marawi Compensation Board,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya daw nila makapagbigay, mag-award to 3,600 families at mangangailangan ng additional 4 billion pesos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ito po ba ay naparating ng Marawi Compensation Board sa Committee on Appropriations sa takdang panahon?

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we get a yes or no from the sponsor?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Mukhang nagsend ng letter.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagsend ng letter. Okay. So, malinaw po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang kinatawang ito ay sumusuporta po sa request for institutional amendment ng Marawi Compensation Board

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for an additional 4 billion, pero pangahawakan po natin ang kanilang deklarasyon dito na kaya nilang ma-award ang pondo,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang dagdag na pondo to 3,600.

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Tama, tama.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 3,600 claimants.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po ang pinakamahalaga.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, kanina meron pong mga youth from Marawi.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagpunta pa sila dito sa Maynila para nga makaharap ang Marawi Compensation Board.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hinaharap naman tayo ni Chair Macarambon at ng kanyang mga staff.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Papasalamat po tayo doon.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa sa mga urgent request po nila ay yung director.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay yung direktang harapan, dialogue.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil kailangan-kailangan ng opisyal at klarong informasyon tungkol sa ano na ba ang kalagayan

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga matagal nang iniintay na pag-award ng claims.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At gusto lang po natin mailagay on record na may commitment po

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for a dialogue in Marawi led by the Marawi Compensation Board.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang tinarget po doon ay first week of October.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, confirm po ba yung commitment na iyon?

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Rep. Nicanor M. Briones: Yes, Your Honor. Confirm po yung commitment.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you. Maraming salamat po. So, yun lang po.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much, Honorable Tinio, Majority Leader.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun lang po, Madam Speaker, nagpapasalamat tayo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Muli, sinusuportahan natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung request ng Marawi Compensation Board for additional 4 billion pesos

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para magampanan nila ang kanilang mandato.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And we look forward to their commitment na haharapin yung mga mamamayan ng Marawi sa Marawi mismo

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagbalik nila doon sa Oktubre.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hanggang doon na lamang po, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May be the Honorable Tinio would also like to move for the termination of the meeting.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There being no other member of the minority who wishes to interpolate,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I move for the termination of the period of interpolation and debate

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

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03:12:23.200 --> 03:12:24.200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate

asr-002438
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Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: the period of interpolation of the proposal, Marawi Compensation Board.

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03:12:33.200 --> 03:12:39.680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a joint motion to terminate the period of interpellations

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03:12:39.680 --> 03:12:43.220
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: on the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board.

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03:12:43.660 --> 03:12:44.580
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is there any objection?

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03:12:45.160 --> 03:12:46.280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Chair hears none.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The period of debate, sponsorship debate and interpellation

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the proposed budget of the Marawi Compensation Board

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader?

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03:12:58.560 --> 03:13:02.800
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget

asr-002448
03:13:02.800 --> 03:13:05.900
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

asr-002449
03:13:07.280 --> 03:13:11.860
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: And may we acknowledge the heads...

asr-002450
03:13:11.860 --> 03:13:12.880
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Well, there's a pending motion.

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03:13:18.160 --> 03:13:22.400
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget

asr-002452
03:13:22.400 --> 03:13:24.440
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

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03:13:24.440 --> 03:13:27.700
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There being no objections, that motion is carried.

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials

asr-002455
03:13:31.520 --> 03:13:32.640
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: of the Bases

asr-002456
03:13:32.800 --> 03:13:34.580
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Conversion and Development Authority,

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03:13:35.280 --> 03:13:38.440
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: namely President and CEO Joshua Bingcang,

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Director Glenn Albano,

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03:13:41.200 --> 03:13:42.840
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Director Dante Liban,

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Senior Vice President Hedda Rulona,

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Senior Vice President Diana Joyce Basco-Galera,

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Officer in Charge Mark Torres.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much, Majority Leader.

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03:13:57.620 --> 03:14:00.800
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we request the Majority Leader to recognize the sponsor.

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: the Honorable Maria Angela S. Garcia,

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations...

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Maria Angela Garcia is hereby recognized

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to sponsor the proposed budget

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03:14:18.460 --> 03:14:21.360
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: On behalf of the Committee on Appropriations,

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: I have the privilege of sponsoring

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: the proposed...

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Fiscal Year 2027 Budget

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Together with President Joshua Bingcang

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: and the BCDA family,

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: we are ready to respond to the questions

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: of our esteemed colleagues during the interpellation.

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03:14:56.160 --> 03:14:57.180
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, may we recognize the Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula of the Akbayan Partylist for her interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Dada Kiram Ismula is hereby recognized.

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03:15:16.460 --> 03:15:19.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dediretso na po ako sa aking katanungan para po mabilis tayong matapos dahil 10.13 na rin po ng gabi.

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03:15:30.000 --> 03:15:37.640
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nakasaad sa gab na iisa lamang ang line item ng BCDA para sa susunod na taon.

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03:15:37.740 --> 03:15:52.660
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Malinaw po sa proposed appropriation na ang buong 1.983 billion ay para sa implementation ng BCDA Infrastructure Development Program at kaugnay nito,

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03:15:53.660 --> 03:15:59.900
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ano ang specific na performance target ng BCDA na dapat ma-achieve?

asr-002490
03:16:00.000 --> 03:16:02.720
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sa ilalim ng program na ito.

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-002492
03:16:06.700 --> 03:16:14.780
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang targets po for 2027, ang isa pong target is the number of generated employment, 1,500.

asr-002493
03:16:15.960 --> 03:16:28.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: The percentage of completed facilities constructed for the AFP, 100%, such as the Philippine Marine Headquarters, the Philippine Navy Senior Officers Quarters,

asr-002497
03:16:28.880 --> 03:16:34.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: And the percentage of infrastructure projects implemented as planned, 100% din po.

asr-002498
03:16:35.120 --> 03:16:42.360
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Such as the connecting road to the virology of DOST, the National Academy of Sports Dormitory of DepEd,

asr-002499
03:16:42.360 --> 03:16:48.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: the access road leading to the Central Bank, University of the Philippines, and Philippine High School.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As we all know, ang issue ng Paxilica ay nangangailangan ng kalinawan.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Iilang countries ang papasok dito sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park under sa Paxilica.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilan po?

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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03:17:10.680 --> 03:17:13.060
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa ngayon po, nothing is final yet.

asr-002506
03:17:14.160 --> 03:17:17.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Hindi naman po ito US exclusive initiative.

asr-002507
03:17:17.680 --> 03:17:23.120
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Dahil po as of June 2026, meron na pong 24 signatories.

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03:17:23.420 --> 03:17:25.420
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang Paxilica Declaration.

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kasama ang Pilipinas, United States, Australia, Japan, Republic of Korea, Singapore, the Netherlands, United Kingdom, India, Germany, Israel, United Arab Emirates, and other partner economies pa po.

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, ina-expect po natin na iba-iba po yung mga bansa na pwedeng mag-locate sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park.

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03:17:53.420 --> 03:17:56.300
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ilan naman po kaya yung tech firm?

asr-002512
03:17:58.180 --> 03:17:59.420
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tech firm.

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03:17:59.860 --> 03:18:06.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pa po tayong final reply dyan kasi po nothing is final po as of the moment.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po, Distinguished Sponsor.

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03:18:09.960 --> 03:18:12.860
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dadako po ako sa aking pangatlong katanungan.

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03:18:13.380 --> 03:18:21.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano po kaya ang specific roles ng BCDA sa Paxilica at sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park?

asr-002517
03:18:23.420 --> 03:18:30.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Ang BCDA po ay isang IPA or Investments Promotions Agency.

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03:18:30.960 --> 03:18:42.240
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, yung role po niya ay limitado po sa pagiging isang commercial partner or lessor po ng CAMP or ng Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park.

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03:18:43.300 --> 03:18:45.980
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilang staff po ba meron ang BCDA?

asr-002520
03:18:47.680 --> 03:18:52.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang BCDA po sa kabuan ay meron pong 257 na staff.

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03:18:53.420 --> 03:18:54.420
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 57?

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03:18:55.260 --> 03:18:55.420
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 257.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: 257. Salamat po.

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03:18:58.540 --> 03:19:04.460
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ilang staff naman po ang currently assigned sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park?

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03:19:04.980 --> 03:19:17.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa ngayon po, Madam Speaker, wala pa pong dedicated staff para po sa ating Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park kasi wala pa naman pong concrete project and wala pang concrete roles.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, can the BCDA confirm that the agency?

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Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker. Sa lahat naman po ng proyekto ng BCDA, nagbibigay po ng due proper notice ang BCDA po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Bilang lead agency or government agency sa implementation ng Paxilica, paano isisiguro ng BCDA na compliant po tayo sa labor laws,

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03:19:51.520 --> 03:19:54.960
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mga papasok na tech firms?

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03:19:55.660 --> 03:20:08.260
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, yung ating pong Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park ay ang masusunod po ay ang mga batas ng Pilipinas kasama po ang labor laws na i-implement po dito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po, tayo po ang masusunod?

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03:20:11.940 --> 03:20:13.080
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Gandang balita po yun kung tayo yung nasusunod at hindi po tayo minamandohan ng ibang bansa or ng foreign.

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03:20:21.520 --> 03:20:29.020
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Saan sa Paxilica agreement nakasaad itong labor law compliance po?

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03:20:29.760 --> 03:20:40.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa ngayon po, wala pa po tayong agreement. So, yung ating pong sinusunod sa lahat po ng proyekto ng BCDA ay ang ating pong Philippine labor laws.

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03:20:41.140 --> 03:20:47.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, ibig sabihin, wala pang provision or actual provision para dito. Pero yun yung plano.

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03:20:48.120 --> 03:20:50.160
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pa pong agreement, Madam Speaker.

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03:20:51.520 --> 03:21:03.300
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung may kumpanyang non-compliant sa labor laws within the Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park, may kapangyarihan ba ang BCDA palayasin o pagbayarin sila?

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03:21:05.260 --> 03:21:17.460
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Again, Madam Speaker, sinisigurado po ng BCDA na Philippine labor laws will apply. Pero sa ngayon po, wala pa pong existing agreement. But this is what we can assure you po.

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03:21:17.900 --> 03:21:19.820
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, Madam Sponsor.

asr-002541
03:21:19.820 --> 03:21:21.400
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po ito po.

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03:21:21.520 --> 03:21:46.740
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya, magawa po talaga natin. Kasi ilang foreign countries na rin po ang pumasok sa ating bansa. Kagaya na lamang nung nakaraan, nagkaroon po ng labor strike ang ating mga DHL workers na kung saan sinasabi nilang labor laws ng Pilipinas ang sinusunod.

asr-002543
03:21:46.740 --> 03:21:50.740
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: However, nung nagkaroon na ng union sa loob ng DHL.

asr-002544
03:21:51.520 --> 03:21:56.820
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Eh, bigla na lamang silang in-end yung contract ng mga workers.

asr-002545
03:21:57.060 --> 03:22:10.020
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, sana po, hindi lamang po ito pangako ng Paxilica, kundi talagang magkakaroon ng provision at talagang mapanagot po natin yung kumpanya na lalabag dito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: With that, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, ang susunod po na katanungan ko, follow up lamang po.

asr-002547
03:22:18.780 --> 03:22:21.400
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Saan sa Paxilica agreement naman?

asr-002548
03:22:21.520 --> 03:22:29.280
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Saan po, nakasaad na may kapangyarihan ang BCDA na i-penalize ang mga non-compliant companies, kung meron man po?

asr-002549
03:22:29.940 --> 03:22:41.260
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Again, Madam Speaker, wala pa pong agreement. Pero again, sinusigurado po ng BCDA na magiging compliant po tayo sa mga batas ng Pilipinas.

asr-002550
03:22:42.060 --> 03:22:50.340
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po, kung ano yung napag-usapan natin dito, uulitin ko po, kung sinasabi ninyo ganyan,

asr-002551
03:22:50.340 --> 03:22:58.060
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: maganda po yung balita. Pero hanggat wala pong agreement, wala pong provision, wala pong papel, nakakabahala pa rin po.

asr-002552
03:22:59.640 --> 03:23:12.560
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Susunod po na katanungan ko ay, paano naman po isisiguro ng BCDA na malayang makapag-unionize ang mga manggagawa sa loob ng mga development projects na ito?

asr-002553
03:23:13.880 --> 03:23:17.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Again, Madam Speaker, we will follow Philippine labor laws.

asr-002554
03:23:17.680 --> 03:23:21.160
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: At ito naman po ay nakasaad sa provision po natin.

asr-002555
03:23:21.520 --> 03:23:30.860
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaugnay po nung nangyari sa DHL, sana hindi po mangyari yung nangyari sa DHL na Philippine labor law ang sinunod,

asr-002556
03:23:31.020 --> 03:23:39.140
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pero nung nagka-unionize, biglang umayaw na si DHL. So sana hindi po gano'n yung mangyayari dito.

asr-002557
03:23:40.060 --> 03:23:46.020
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano naman po isisiguro ng BCDA na ang mga manggagawang Pilipino,

asr-002558
03:23:46.020 --> 03:23:53.280
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang majority na mahahire sa mga high quality jobs sa Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park?

asr-002559
03:23:53.700 --> 03:23:59.400
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Baka naman po kasi dahil foreign country yung papasok dito,

asr-002560
03:23:59.520 --> 03:24:04.440
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: baka naman po dadalhin din nila yung kanilang mga manggagawa mula sa ibang bansa.

asr-002561
03:24:16.020 --> 03:24:31.840
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ayon po sa ating BOI, ang nakasaad po ay minimum 90% po ang mga Pilipino na magtatrabaho.

asr-002562
03:24:31.840 --> 03:24:37.160
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As a-handing po natin yan na makikita natin sa provision or sa agreement po.

asr-002563
03:24:38.800 --> 03:24:45.780
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At hindi ko na itatanong kung saan parte po yun ng agreement ng Paxilica dahil kagaya ng nasagot nyo po kanina,

asr-002564
03:24:46.020 --> 03:24:49.500
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: wala pa nga po. So sana nga, nandoon din po yan.

asr-002565
03:24:50.980 --> 03:25:00.240
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: As you can see, dear colleague, in the past months, Paxilica is toted as the economic miracle of the country.

asr-002566
03:25:00.240 --> 03:25:04.000
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero wala pa palang malinaw na agreement.

asr-002567
03:25:04.600 --> 03:25:14.240
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: It's extremely concerning na nag-hard launch na ang BCDA, nag-notify na sa LGU at sa mga residenteng maapektuhan.

asr-002568
03:25:14.240 --> 03:25:20.620
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pero ang sagot, lagi ay wala pa palang malinaw na kongkretong agreement.

asr-002569
03:25:21.360 --> 03:25:28.080
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nagpadala na rin kayo ng notices sa mga residente, pero wala pa rin po palang agreement, no?

asr-002570
03:25:28.700 --> 03:25:32.320
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Are we being taken for a ride with this agreement?

asr-002575
03:25:55.120 --> 03:26:04.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, as we said, wala pa pong final na mga pag-uusap.

asr-002576
03:26:04.720 --> 03:26:06.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Meron pa lang pong mga diskusyon.

asr-002577
03:26:07.000 --> 03:26:09.760
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Meron pa lang pong initial discussions.

asr-002578
03:26:10.160 --> 03:26:14.160
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po, siguro kapag meron na pong feedback.

asr-002579
03:26:14.240 --> 03:26:25.020
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: doon po natin maisasalaysay at mayuulat kung ano po yung magiging final agreements po natin.

asr-002580
03:26:25.260 --> 03:26:28.960
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Naintindihan ko po ito Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

asr-002581
03:26:30.060 --> 03:26:35.060
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Medyo nabahala lang ako doon sa nakapag-notify na wala pa palang agreement,

asr-002582
03:26:35.320 --> 03:26:40.900
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nasa usapan pa lang pala tayo kung ano-anong mga provisions ang gagawin natin.

asr-002583
03:26:40.900 --> 03:26:50.700
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi po yata tama na inonotify na natin ang mga residente para sila ay makaalis na tapos wala pa palang agreement.

asr-002584
03:26:51.500 --> 03:26:58.780
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ang 2027 budget ng BCDA, ang year zero bago magsimula ang construction.

asr-002585
03:26:59.680 --> 03:27:05.740
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yet mukhang wala pa palang kapangyarihan ang lead agency para dito para masigurong

asr-002586
03:27:05.740 --> 03:27:10.460
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mga Pilipino talaga ang magbe-benefit at hindi mga dayuhan.

asr-002587
03:27:10.900 --> 03:27:20.520
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dadako naman po ako sa usapin at concerns ng indigenous people at mga community na maa-apektuhan ng development ng Paxilica.

asr-002588
03:27:21.240 --> 03:27:30.920
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Madam Sponsor, para po sa inyong kaalaman at sa BCDA family, ako po ay isang indigenous people, isa po akong IP,

asr-002589
03:27:31.240 --> 03:27:37.140
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kaya mahalaga po sa akin yung karapatan ng aking mga constituent na mga IP, no?

asr-002590
03:27:37.140 --> 03:27:40.080
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, can the BCDA confirm?

asr-002591
03:27:40.900 --> 03:27:49.520
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: There are indigenous peoples and indigenous cultural communities that will be affected if the project pushes through.

asr-002592
03:27:53.960 --> 03:28:00.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, siguro para magbigay po ng mas malawak na perspektibo,

asr-002593
03:28:01.240 --> 03:28:10.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung pong Clark Freeport Special Economic Zone ay meron pong 35,300 hectares.

asr-002594
03:28:10.900 --> 03:28:18.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: At ito pong camp na tinutukoy natin ay 1,620 hectares lamang.

asr-002595
03:28:20.280 --> 03:28:30.780
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Doon po sa kabuan ng 35,300, inalis na po doon, binukod na po yung ating pong mga ancestral domain.

asr-002596
03:28:31.240 --> 03:28:38.780
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Meron pong halos 15,000 na nakabukod na po na ginagalang ng BCDA.

asr-002597
03:28:39.900 --> 03:28:40.780
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yung kanila pong...

asr-002598
03:28:40.900 --> 03:28:53.380
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pero dito po sa ating campsite, wala pa po, even at the NCIP level, wala pong CAD-T or CALT na nare-recognize pa po.

asr-002599
03:28:54.520 --> 03:28:58.220
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Salamat po, no? Magandang balita kung sakaling ganun nga talaga.

asr-002600
03:28:58.440 --> 03:29:02.960
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dahil ibig sabihin, pinapahalagahan po natin ang mga indigenous people.

asr-002601
03:29:03.480 --> 03:29:10.520
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Gayun pa man po, gusto ko lang i-follow up na naintindihan ko na sinegregate na po natin,

asr-002602
03:29:10.900 --> 03:29:13.880
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: gagal na po natin yung mga may ancestral domain.

asr-002603
03:29:14.040 --> 03:29:21.220
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ngayon, ang tanong ko po, may mga communities pa rin po ba na maapektuhan na sila ay mga indigenous people,

asr-002604
03:29:21.360 --> 03:29:23.740
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ngunit wala lang ancestral domain?

asr-002649
03:29:59.080 --> 03:30:08.460
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, doon po sa New Clark City Special Economic Zone, Freeport and Special Economic Zone,

asr-002650
03:30:08.660 --> 03:30:19.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: meron pong ilang both IP and non-IP na settlers po.

asr-002651
03:30:19.960 --> 03:30:28.700
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, ibig sabihin may maaapektuhan ng mga IP community na walang ancestral domain.

asr-002652
03:30:28.700 --> 03:30:34.240
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Doon po sa area, nakasama sa 35,300 hectares.

asr-002653
03:30:35.560 --> 03:30:48.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Doon po sa camp area, doon sa 1,600 hectares po, meron po na ilang mga IP and non-IP families.

asr-002654
03:30:49.440 --> 03:30:55.820
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano po kaya ang magiging commitment ng BCDA na itong mga IP na to,

asr-002655
03:30:55.820 --> 03:30:58.540
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: despite not having an ancestral domain,

asr-002656
03:30:58.700 --> 03:31:04.320
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ay maa-re-remain ang kanilang dignidad,

asr-002657
03:31:04.840 --> 03:31:10.040
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ma-re-respeto pa rin ang kanilang rights as an indigenous people.

asr-002658
03:31:10.820 --> 03:31:21.680
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Can the BCDA commit na meron pa rin po tayong i-implace or i-impose na batas para sa ating mga IP constituents

asr-002659
03:31:21.680 --> 03:31:24.840
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na even if wala po silang ancestral domain?

asr-002660
03:31:28.700 --> 03:31:43.220
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, para po doon sa affected families, IP families po natin,

asr-002661
03:31:43.700 --> 03:31:52.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: BCDA will coordinate with NCIP and the LGU para po matukoy ang kanila pong saloobin

asr-002662
03:31:52.640 --> 03:31:58.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at siyempre tignan po kung ano po yung pwedeng mabigay natin.

asr-002663
03:31:58.700 --> 03:32:01.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: May tulong ng ating pong gobyerno sa kanila.

asr-002664
03:32:02.260 --> 03:32:08.960
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Hindi po natin sila, hindi isasama sa ating pong developmental and social plan.

asr-002665
03:32:10.280 --> 03:32:22.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Definitely po, hindi po natin hahayaan na wala po tayong ibibigay na alternatibong option para po sa kanila.

asr-002666
03:32:23.540 --> 03:32:25.960
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat, distinguished sponsor.

asr-002667
03:32:26.820 --> 03:32:27.960
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: With that,

asr-002668
03:32:28.700 --> 03:32:30.560
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nire-respeto ko po ito,

asr-002669
03:32:30.640 --> 03:32:33.400
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pero bilang ang BCDA po,

asr-002670
03:32:33.740 --> 03:32:40.820
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang lead government agency na magli-lead dito sa Paxilica project na ito,

asr-002671
03:32:40.820 --> 03:32:49.820
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sana po ay kayo po mismo yung bababa sa grounds at kakausap sa mga IP constituents or even non-IP constituents.

asr-002672
03:32:50.960 --> 03:32:55.300
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Huwag po sana nating hayaan na ang sulat lang, written document lang,

asr-002673
03:32:55.420 --> 03:32:58.680
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mag-i-inform sa kanila ng ano na pong,

asr-002674
03:32:58.700 --> 03:33:05.440
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: kung nangyayari doon po sa area of responsibility din po ng proyektong ito.

asr-002675
03:33:05.980 --> 03:33:16.480
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, inaasahan ko po, sana po ay makita po natin itong improvement at saka progress po dito sa pagkakausap po sa ating mga IP constituents.

asr-002676
03:33:17.440 --> 03:33:22.760
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: With that, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor, for closing, in closing,

asr-002677
03:33:24.300 --> 03:33:28.660
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pasensya na po pero medyo hindi ko po kasi naiintindihan kung bakit,

asr-002678
03:33:28.660 --> 03:33:35.820
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: minamadali din po natin yung Paxilica at ang mga planong Advanced Manufacturing Park

asr-002679
03:33:35.820 --> 03:33:39.840
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ng marami pang hindi nasasagot ng mga concerns.

asr-002680
03:33:40.440 --> 03:33:47.880
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana po, unahin po natin muna yung mga concerns bago po natin madaliin ang mga agreements na ito.

asr-002681
03:33:48.560 --> 03:33:53.600
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Malinaw naman sa ating mga Pinoy na kung hindi nakataga sa bato,

asr-002682
03:33:53.600 --> 03:33:58.600
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang mga pangako ay posibleng napapakataon.

asr-002683
03:33:58.660 --> 03:33:59.700
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Napapako, no?

asr-002684
03:34:00.120 --> 03:34:02.720
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So, yun lamang po ang gusto naming makita.

asr-002685
03:34:02.980 --> 03:34:10.780
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana ito ay nakadokumento, may papeles, may agreement, may probisyon na magsesecure

asr-002686
03:34:10.780 --> 03:34:17.480
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na hindi po masisira ang ating kalikasan, ang ating bansa, at ang ating komunidad.

asr-002687
03:34:17.480 --> 03:34:25.880
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Baka mauwi lang sa pambubudol ang mga pangakong high quality jobs, mga pangakong world class technology,

asr-002688
03:34:26.540 --> 03:34:28.480
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: transfer kung wala naman pala tayo.

asr-002689
03:34:28.660 --> 03:34:30.480
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya yung nakikita pa sa agreement.

asr-002690
03:34:31.100 --> 03:34:34.920
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: But anyway, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, maraming salamat po.

asr-002691
03:34:35.120 --> 03:34:36.060
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

asr-002692
03:34:36.060 --> 03:34:36.880
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-002693
03:34:37.000 --> 03:34:37.700
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: ...

asr-002694
03:34:37.840 --> 03:34:42.820
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Ko for her interpellation.

asr-002695
03:34:42.980 --> 03:34:45.260
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Ko is hereby recognized. Please proceed.

asr-002696
03:34:46.820 --> 03:34:48.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

asr-002697
03:34:49.120 --> 03:34:53.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Magandang gabi sa ating Distinguished Sponsor ngayong gabi.

asr-002698
03:34:54.140 --> 03:34:58.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maari po bang sumagot ng ilang tanong tungkol sa...

asr-002699
03:34:58.660 --> 03:35:04.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa budget at mga pulisiya na gusto pong ipatupad ng BCDA?

asr-002700
03:35:05.120 --> 03:35:06.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-002701
03:35:06.600 --> 03:35:08.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

asr-002702
03:35:09.440 --> 03:35:14.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang una po nating tanong ay ang announcement din,

asr-002703
03:35:14.020 --> 03:35:19.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi lang ng BCDA pero iba-iba rin pong ahensya ng gobyerno

asr-002704
03:35:19.360 --> 03:35:27.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng April 16, 2026, pumirma ang Pilipinas sa Pax Silica Declaration.

asr-002705
03:35:27.740 --> 03:35:31.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can I get a confirmation if that's true, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor?

asr-002706
03:35:32.500 --> 03:35:33.820
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-002707
03:35:35.080 --> 03:35:40.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pumirma po ang Pilipinas sa isang non-binding statement of shared principles.

asr-002708
03:35:42.320 --> 03:35:44.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002709
03:35:45.040 --> 03:35:53.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa website ng Board of Investments na nakuha natin ang access dito dahil dinirect po tayo

asr-002710
03:35:53.940 --> 03:35:57.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng Board of Investments mismo sa DTI.

asr-002711
03:35:58.700 --> 03:36:04.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: budget briefing. Meron po ditong sulat, liham galing sa BCDA

asr-002712
03:36:04.300 --> 03:36:21.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ?Proposal for a Pax Silica Coordination Office in Clark,? dated April 9, 2026. May I get a confirmation kung ito po ay pinadala ng BCDA?

asr-002713
03:36:21.000 --> 03:36:23.600
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-002714
03:36:23.600 --> 03:36:26.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, meron po tayong mga katanungan

asr-002715
03:36:26.400 --> 03:36:29.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tungkol po sa liham na ito

asr-002724
03:36:29.300 --> 03:36:46.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At ang mga nagsunod-sunod ng developments na nag-arise from the signing of this statement and subsequent plans, proposals, declarations ng iba't-ibang ahensya ng gobyerno.

asr-002725
03:36:46.120 --> 03:37:15.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ayon po dito sa April 9, 2026 letter ng BCDA, binubukas niya po ang 4,000 hectares acres strategically located in the Luzon Economic Corridor under a lease-free agreement may grace period of two years bilang offer of in-kind contribution towards developing and advancing the bilateral economic security partnership between the governments of the Philippines

asr-002726
03:37:16.120 --> 03:37:45.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the United States of America. May scope and objectives, meron pong paglatag ng terms at ng legal basis. Ang tanong ko po, if the offer of land proceeded or was simultaneous with the country's formal partnership, ano pong otoridad o propriety na meron ng BCDA to commit up to 4,000 acres of sovereign state land to a foreign coalition,

asr-002727
03:37:45.180 --> 03:37:50.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Philippines had not yet formally joined. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, maaari po ba tayong ma-enlighten dito?

asr-002728
03:37:51.260 --> 03:38:13.020
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, katulad po ng nabanggit ng ating distinguished colleague, ito po ay isang proposal na pinadala po ng BCDA. Hindi po ito na iba sa mga proposal na pinapadala ng BCDA bilang isang IPA or Investment Promotions Agency. Ito po kasi talaga yung mandato nila.

asr-002729
03:38:15.180 --> 03:38:26.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano pong basihan kung bakit nagbukas ng proposal ang BCDA ng April 9, 2026 via letter sa Estados Unidos?

asr-002730
03:38:40.140 --> 03:38:44.980
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang basihan po ng proposal na pinadala ng BCDA.

asr-002731
03:38:45.180 --> 03:38:56.220
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay yung mismong Republic Act na nag-create sa BCDA plus po yung isa pa po nating batas na Investor's Lease Act.

asr-002732
03:38:58.580 --> 03:39:05.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mayroon po bang mga relevant agencies o kaya po ang presidente na nag-authorize ng offer na ito in advance?

asr-002733
03:39:05.680 --> 03:39:13.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Was anyone outside the BCDA involved in crafting this offer and authorizing this offer?

asr-002734
03:39:15.180 --> 03:39:40.580
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito pong proposal ay bunga ng ating pong pagsapi sa deklarasyon at dahil ito po ay pinadala sa ibang bansa, ito po ay nireview ng iba't ibang mga national agencies cleared para ipadala ng BCDA.

asr-002735
03:39:40.580 --> 03:39:44.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, to clarify, ano pong deklarasyon na ito?

asr-002736
03:39:45.180 --> 03:39:46.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Na na-mention ninyo?

asr-002737
03:39:47.140 --> 03:39:48.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung Paxilica Declaration po.

asr-002738
03:39:48.860 --> 03:40:03.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero ang tanong Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, prior to the sending of this letter ng April 9, ang presidente po ba o kahit anong relevant na ahensya ng gobyerno nag-authorize in advance of this offer?

asr-002739
03:40:03.240 --> 03:40:05.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So prior to April 9, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

asr-002740
03:40:06.760 --> 03:40:15.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker, kinlear po ito ng DOJ at in-endorse po ng DTI, ng DFA.

asr-002741
03:40:15.820 --> 03:40:25.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So may clearance, endorsement ng DOJ and DFA prior to April 9, prior to sending the proposal?

asr-002742
03:40:25.740 --> 03:40:26.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-002743
03:40:27.440 --> 03:40:35.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kailan po ito ginawa ng DOJ and DFA? Kailan po na-receive ng BCDA itong clearances and endorsements?

asr-002744
03:40:38.900 --> 03:40:40.240
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito po ay...

asr-002745
03:40:45.180 --> 03:40:59.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: The day before April 9, Madam Speaker.

asr-002746
03:41:01.120 --> 03:41:08.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bakit po, curiosity, ang DOJ kailangang i-clear at i-endorse itong offer na ito?

asr-002766
03:41:15.180 --> 03:41:26.780
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: To ensure po na ito po ay compliant sa ating pong BCDA Act at sa Investors Lease Act.

asr-002767
03:41:27.240 --> 03:41:29.980
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: And Philippine laws po, Madam Speaker.

asr-002768
03:41:30.160 --> 03:41:39.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is the DepDev ever consulted about the offer prior to the BCDA making it?

asr-002769
03:41:39.680 --> 03:41:52.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Hindi po, Madam Speaker, kasi ito po ay isang preliminary proposal pa lang po.

asr-002770
03:41:54.520 --> 03:42:07.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Other than the DOJ and DFA, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, sino pa po ba involved dito sa pagbuo ng terms, ng scope ng proposal na ito?

asr-002812
03:42:11.220 --> 03:42:16.060
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Aside from DOJ, DFA, BCDA po, and BOI.

asr-002813
03:42:17.120 --> 03:42:38.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kung maari din po natin makuha yun in a report na paglalatag ng sino pong mga ahensya, sino pong mga heads of agencies ang involved sa pagbuo ng proposal because I assume this high level of proposal, kahit sabihin mang preliminary,

asr-002814
03:42:38.900 --> 03:42:57.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marami pong recurso ang pinag-uusapan, ang tinataya, at hindi naman po basta-basta lang na mga ahensya na hindi na konsulta sa appropriate other government bodies na magagawa ito.

asr-002815
03:42:57.040 --> 03:42:58.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002816
03:42:58.880 --> 03:42:59.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-002817
03:42:59.420 --> 03:43:08.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Kung maari din po ang mga dates at inputs at mga endorsements na ginawa na relevant ng mga DOJ, ng mga ahensya.

asr-002818
03:43:10.600 --> 03:43:13.200
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker, we will comply.

asr-002818-split-2
03:43:13.200 --> 03:43:38.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ang sunod nating tanong: ang Department of Agriculture o ang Department of Agrarian Reform ba nakonsulta ng BCDA bago po binuksan sa isang offer ang lupain na in-identify for Pax Silica, given that the site displaces active farmland in Tarlac?

asr-002819
03:43:38.900 --> 03:43:57.400
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, ito pong pinag-uusapan po natin, public land under Clark Freeport and special economic zone, ito po ay naka-master plan na bilang isang economic zone po for industrial development.

asr-002820
03:43:57.400 --> 03:44:03.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, is the sponsor denying agricultural displacement?

asr-002821
03:44:08.900 --> 03:44:16.580
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, hindi po classified as agricultural land itong pinag-uusapan po nating subject area.

asr-002822
03:44:17.860 --> 03:44:26.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, may sinasayit na essentially legal tag sa lupain na ito.

asr-002823
03:44:26.600 --> 03:44:38.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang reality, however, ay around May this year, residents of Barangay Santa Lucia, Capas, says that PCDA sent a one-month eviction notice.

asr-002824
03:44:38.900 --> 03:44:40.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Without prior consultation.

asr-002825
03:44:40.920 --> 03:44:47.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And several farmers also claimed PCDA had offered to purchase their land for only 30 pesos per square meter.

asr-002826
03:44:47.640 --> 03:44:59.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And in August, around 92 farmers in Barangay O'Donnell, Capas, Tarlac have reportedly been urged by the PCDA to vacate the farmland they have been cultivating.

asr-002827
03:45:00.000 --> 03:45:16.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Residents of Sitio Sapangkawayan, Barangay Aranguren, said the project could displace families from ancestral land where generations have lived and farmed while also putting their burial grounds, livelihood, and community institutions at risk.

asr-002828
03:45:16.600 --> 03:45:31.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May mga senators po calling for a Senate probe amid complaints that farmers are allegedly being ordered to stop planting and are facing intimidation, arguing any land use conversion must follow due process under DAR rules.

asr-002829
03:45:31.720 --> 03:45:39.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marami po tayong data, gaya na rin po sa preliminary, and preliminary pa lang po ito, na studies ng mga ibang ahensya.

asr-002830
03:45:39.000 --> 03:45:44.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The DA noted that 15,200 farmers might lose their agricultural land.

asr-002831
03:45:44.700 --> 03:45:52.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And a civil society organization, Calicasan, said the project could result in the long-term displacement of around 20,000 AITA residents.

asr-002832
03:45:53.760 --> 03:45:59.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May sinasabi po na hindi po ito tagged as agricultural land.

asr-002833
03:45:59.600 --> 03:46:07.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But is the BCDA aware of this when it made the proposal na may 20,000 AITA residents na nariyan?

asr-002834
03:46:07.400 --> 03:46:12.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron pong 15,200 farmers na maaari pong mawala ang kanilang lupain.

asr-002835
03:46:13.300 --> 03:46:14.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At ngayon po.

asr-002836
03:46:14.700 --> 03:46:18.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po yung paraan kung paano niya pinapatigil ito.

asr-002837
03:46:19.300 --> 03:46:25.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Reports of harassment, intimidation, para makuha, maklear yung lupain.

asr-002838
03:46:26.080 --> 03:46:27.140
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002839
03:46:27.760 --> 03:46:30.120
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

asr-002840
03:46:30.620 --> 03:46:38.760
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Siguro parang meron pong discrepancy sa mga bilang na, malalaking mga bilang na naisalaysay po ninyo.

asr-002841
03:46:39.500 --> 03:46:44.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: We would like to request for a copy of this para ma-review po ng BCDA.

asr-002842
03:46:44.700 --> 03:46:57.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pero sa ngayon po, wala pong 20,000 farmers displaced and wala rin pong 20,000 AITAS displaced.

asr-002843
03:46:58.880 --> 03:47:07.040
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: In fact, again, ito pong pinag-uusapan po nating lupa ay special economic zone, hindi po siya agricultural.

asr-002844
03:47:07.040 --> 03:47:14.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: And yung kabuan po ng 35,300 hectares, nakabukod po.

asr-002845
03:47:14.700 --> 03:47:20.040
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito po yung mga lupain na under ng DAR area.

asr-002846
03:47:20.860 --> 03:47:26.960
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito po ay merong kabuang 10,700 hectares under DAR farmlands.

asr-002847
03:47:27.880 --> 03:47:29.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002848
03:47:29.320 --> 03:47:40.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: To clarify, ang binigay ng mga numero ng kinatawan na ito ay mga estimates kung tuloy-tuloy na mangyari yung mga displacement na ongoing na po ngayon.

asr-002849
03:47:40.580 --> 03:47:44.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So ito po ay mga public pronouncements from civil society.

asr-002850
03:47:44.700 --> 03:47:50.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po ay mga public pronouncements from civil society organizations na maaari din pong i-furnish ng representasyon na ito ng kopya.

asr-002851
03:47:50.580 --> 03:48:04.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But nonetheless, ang tanong po natin ay despite yung pagsabi na meron pong ganitong pagtag na this is land under special economic zone.

asr-002852
03:48:04.980 --> 03:48:06.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang reality po, may AITA po doon.

asr-002853
03:48:06.840 --> 03:48:09.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nagpunta po tayo, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002854
03:48:10.140 --> 03:48:14.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron pong nagkiklaim that for the longest time, naroon sila sa lupa.

asr-002855
03:48:14.700 --> 03:48:16.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ngayon, burial ground din po nila.

asr-002856
03:48:17.120 --> 03:48:21.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: They have been farming for generations in the land that was provided.

asr-002857
03:48:21.460 --> 03:48:22.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002858
03:48:22.860 --> 03:48:32.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang tanong ko, may FPIC po bang obtained from or even sought from the AITA community in Sitio, Sapang, Kawayan before the offer was extended to a foreign government?

asr-002859
03:48:32.760 --> 03:48:43.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nagkaroon po ba ng opportunity ang BCDA para i-check na okay, kahit ito nakalagay as special economic zone land to na may mga magsasaka po doon?

asr-002860
03:48:44.700 --> 03:48:49.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At kinausap, kinonsulta, kinuha yung FPIC bago po ginawa yung offer na ito.

asr-002861
03:48:50.280 --> 03:48:58.060
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, ito pong pinag-uusapan po nating area para po sa camp.

asr-002862
03:48:58.580 --> 03:49:00.960
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pong ancestral domain dito.

asr-002863
03:49:01.460 --> 03:49:03.660
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pong CADT or CALT po dito.

asr-002864
03:49:04.120 --> 03:49:05.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002865
03:49:05.920 --> 03:49:14.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Under the Indigenous People's Rights Act, FPIC is supposed to precede decisions affecting ancestral domain, not follow a commitment.

asr-002866
03:49:14.700 --> 03:49:16.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Already made internationally.

asr-002867
03:49:17.220 --> 03:49:20.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So I'd like to confirm, i-confirm yung sequence.

asr-002868
03:49:21.260 --> 03:49:28.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The land was offered to the U.S. for the Paxilica project bago po magkaroon ng any consultation,

asr-002869
03:49:28.680 --> 03:49:33.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: even though sinabi na as of now, wala pong CADT.

asr-002870
03:49:35.460 --> 03:49:38.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pong FPIC kasi po wala pong CADT.

asr-002871
03:49:40.440 --> 03:49:42.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002872
03:49:42.380 --> 03:49:43.620
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang sunod po nating tanong.

asr-002873
03:49:44.000 --> 03:49:44.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I'd like to...

asr-002874
03:49:44.700 --> 03:49:47.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Loop back and circle back to that data, no?

asr-002875
03:49:47.220 --> 03:49:54.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Given that BCDA has acknowledged on the record at the August 14th Senate hearing that consultations have not been completed

asr-002876
03:49:54.700 --> 03:49:59.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and investors have yet to submit a development plan,

asr-002877
03:49:59.380 --> 03:50:04.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does BCDA consider it appropriate governance practice to make an international commitment first

asr-002878
03:50:04.640 --> 03:50:11.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and complete domestic due diligence, agricultural impact, environmental assessment, indigenous consent,

asr-002879
03:50:11.980 --> 03:50:14.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: local government coordination pagkatapos?

asr-002880
03:50:14.220 --> 03:50:30.020
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, again, ito pong subject area na pinag-uusapan po natin ay special freeport, freeport and special economic zone.

asr-002881
03:50:31.620 --> 03:50:36.220
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yung ating pong proposal ay preliminary lamang po.

asr-002882
03:50:37.460 --> 03:50:42.540
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po wala pong FPIC na ginanap.

asr-002883
03:50:42.540 --> 03:50:43.540
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kasi po hindi po...

asr-002884
03:50:44.220 --> 03:50:49.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pong ancestral domain dito po sa subject area.

asr-002885
03:50:50.380 --> 03:50:51.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002886
03:50:51.700 --> 03:50:58.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano po hinaharap ng BCDA yung issue na lumalabas ngayon ang mga iilang magsasaka

asr-002887
03:50:58.160 --> 03:51:04.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that they're claiming na may ancestral lands and domain po sila?

asr-002888
03:51:04.180 --> 03:51:08.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sabihin po natin na as of now, there is no certificate.

asr-002889
03:51:08.920 --> 03:51:13.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero may grupo pong lumalabas, sinasabi ang doon sila.

asr-002890
03:51:13.140 --> 03:51:16.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron silang pruweba that they've been occupying that for the longest time.

asr-002891
03:51:17.620 --> 03:51:25.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi po ba dapat i-halt natin ang lahat at kausapin sila, i-finalize, i-clear po itong lahat bago tayo mag-proceed?

asr-002892
03:51:26.120 --> 03:51:34.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Because unfortunately, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ang nakita natin na developments posted by the U.S. Embassy in the Philippines

asr-002893
03:51:34.640 --> 03:51:36.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and covered by...

asr-002894
03:51:37.760 --> 03:51:43.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even posted by the United States Secretary of State.

asr-002895
03:51:43.140 --> 03:51:47.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Jacob Helberg ay may Pax Silica marker nang ina-unveil.

asr-002896
03:51:47.560 --> 03:51:52.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi po ba ito, hindi ba advanced masyado ang thinking dito?

asr-002897
03:51:52.460 --> 03:51:56.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na't may naghahabol na nandyan po ang lupain namin.

asr-002898
03:51:56.880 --> 03:52:01.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At syempre, madidisplace kami, mawawalan po kami ng lupa kung tutuloy-tuloy ito.

asr-002899
03:52:13.140 --> 03:52:39.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, again, itong subject area ay Freeport and Special Economic Zone.

asr-002900
03:52:39.640 --> 03:52:42.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po, mandato po ng BCDA.

asr-002901
03:52:43.140 --> 03:52:52.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Na as an investments promotions agency, na magamit ito for productive use para po sa matugunan yung kanilang mandato.

asr-002902
03:52:53.840 --> 03:53:01.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, with all due respect to our colleague and of course, sa pagkilala pa rin naman ng batas at mandato ng iba't ibang ahensya,

asr-002903
03:53:03.040 --> 03:53:04.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: maaari po nating...

asr-002904
03:53:05.600 --> 03:53:11.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This representation can think of various answers to that question such as,

asr-002905
03:53:11.460 --> 03:53:12.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pwede po nating itigil?

asr-002906
03:53:13.140 --> 03:53:23.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I-pause muna ang pagproseso ng proyekto until ma-resolve natin yung mga issues regarding farmers that have conflicting claims about the land.

asr-002907
03:53:24.140 --> 03:53:34.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Despite the fact na may saklaw nga pong batas, despite the fact na may identified lands, na sinasabi ito po, Special Economic Zone ito.

asr-002908
03:53:34.920 --> 03:53:40.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, meron pong mga claims ang mga farmers.

asr-002909
03:53:40.780 --> 03:53:42.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May claims ang ITAS.

asr-002910
03:53:42.080 --> 03:53:43.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ITAS po ang mga farmers.

asr-002911
03:53:43.140 --> 03:53:55.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung pinakaunang mga tribo na nakalapag sa Pilipinas, sa kasaysayan natin, they predate the concept of the Philippine State.

asr-002912
03:53:56.320 --> 03:54:07.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And most likely, they can make claims as long as meron silang evidence which even might predate yung concept ng mga batas natin dito ngayon.

asr-002913
03:54:07.360 --> 03:54:12.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, hindi po ba natin dapat ikonsidera yung kanilang mga...

asr-002914
03:54:13.140 --> 03:54:24.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nilalapag ng mga threat, banta sa kanilang buhay, sa kanilang kabuhayan, bago po mag-proceed further sa ganitong proyekto?

asr-002915
03:54:25.420 --> 03:54:30.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala pong threat sa kanilang mga buhay.

asr-002916
03:54:31.320 --> 03:54:39.660
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Alam po ng ating mga farmers na itong lupa na ito ay nakatitulo sa BCDA.

asr-002917
03:54:39.980 --> 03:54:42.980
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito po ay Freeport and Special Economic Zone.

asr-002918
03:54:43.140 --> 03:54:53.240
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Claro po ito sa kanila sa mga dialogues and sa mga groundwork na ginagawa po ng BCDA.

asr-002919
03:54:54.020 --> 03:55:02.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, I find it hard to believe na tatanggapin na lang po ng mga ITA tribes, ng mga grupo ng mga magsasaka,

asr-002920
03:55:02.680 --> 03:55:10.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na may pumunta pong biglang mga government officials and employees in suits at sasabihin nila,

asr-002921
03:55:10.780 --> 03:55:13.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: actually po, yung lupang tinitilikan ninyo.

asr-002922
03:55:13.260 --> 03:55:17.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pagmamayari po yan ng pamahalaan, kailangan na pong i-clear dahil po may proyekto pong pupunta dyan.

asr-002923
03:55:18.440 --> 03:55:25.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, let just the record show that this representation repeatedly asked,

asr-002924
03:55:26.180 --> 03:55:35.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung ano pong response ng BCDA sa mga paulit-ulit na concerns ng mga magsasaka, ng mga tribo na sinasabi,

asr-002925
03:55:36.220 --> 03:55:42.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dito po kami nakatira, dito po ang aming kabuhayan, and the response that I've been getting is,

asr-002926
03:55:43.140 --> 03:55:53.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: but the law provides that this particular land is part and tag under the applicable laws like the Special Economic Zone.

asr-002927
03:55:54.060 --> 03:56:00.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, as I have my time is limited, I would move on to the next line of questioning,

asr-002928
03:56:01.380 --> 03:56:09.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at tungkol naman po ito sa mismong batas na nire-refer, which is RA 7916, or the Special Economic Zone Act,

asr-002929
03:56:09.840 --> 03:56:12.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na pinasa in 1995 with the express...

asr-002930
03:56:13.140 --> 03:56:20.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: statutory purpose of promoting technology-intensive industries that will modernize the country's industrial sector

asr-002931
03:56:20.020 --> 03:56:27.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and enabling technology transfer and managerial know-how to transfer them to domestic firms.

asr-002932
03:56:27.700 --> 03:56:36.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Three decades later, gusto po natin makita from BCDA to cite specific, measurable instances of technology transfer

asr-002933
03:56:36.580 --> 03:56:42.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and modernization of industrial sector directly due to PESA-registered firms,

asr-002934
03:56:43.140 --> 03:56:49.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or Philippine-owned manufacturing capacity, not just employment figures but, Madam Speaker, to note,

asr-002935
03:56:49.240 --> 03:57:00.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: IP transfer, domestic supplier upgrading, or Filipino-owned firms that graduated into higher value-added production because of eco-zone spillovers.

asr-002936
03:57:00.440 --> 03:57:03.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is that data available right now, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

asr-002937
03:57:05.540 --> 03:57:12.980
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Right now, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala pa yung data sa amin, but we will, if you will allow, we will submit that.

asr-002939
03:57:14.800 --> 03:57:43.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, aantayin po natin yung report na iyon dahil po kung ang sinasabi na rason kung bakit po dapat magkaroon ng Pax Silica ay ang basehan ay ang Special Economic Zone Act, it has been in place actually three decades now. So we would like to see ano po ba yung naging progress from when it was passed up to now kung paano po

asr-002940
03:57:43.120 --> 03:57:54.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, inactualize yung batas. Paano po nagkaroon ng technology-intensive industries dahil po nagkaroon ng modernization of industrial sector

asr-002941
03:57:54.900 --> 03:58:01.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na supposedly BCDA is at the lead if not one of the agencies ought to implement this.

asr-002942
03:58:01.800 --> 03:58:05.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, iintayin po natin yung report na iyon.

asr-002943
03:58:06.120 --> 03:58:07.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-002944
03:58:07.020 --> 03:58:13.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang final question na lang po, Madam Speaker, may napansin tayo that in that proportion,

asr-002945
03:58:13.120 --> 03:58:22.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the proposal letter to the U.S. State Department, it does explicitly state that RA 7916 is the governing law for personnel arrangements at the site.

asr-002946
03:58:23.100 --> 03:58:33.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero po, noong July, BCDA's president told the press that the project would instead be covered by the BCDA law and create more.

asr-002947
03:58:33.920 --> 03:58:41.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, we'd like to clarify, which fiscal and legal framework ultimately governs the Paxilica Coordination Office?

asr-002948
03:58:42.300 --> 03:58:43.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002949
03:58:43.120 --> 03:59:05.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ang legal basis po ay yung BCDA law at yung create more, which is an update of the 7916 RA.

asr-002950
03:59:06.680 --> 03:59:09.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002951
03:59:10.960 --> 03:59:12.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Iintay natin yung iba't-ibang...

asr-002952
03:59:13.120 --> 03:59:16.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Iintay natin yung mga reports na ni-request ng kinatawa na ito.

asr-002953
03:59:16.640 --> 03:59:20.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But as a final manifestation, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-002954
03:59:21.620 --> 03:59:30.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang mga napansin natin, mga iba't-ibang arrangements na in-undertake under the Special Economic Zone Act,

asr-002955
03:59:30.920 --> 03:59:34.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we surmise it won't be as different sa gagawin sa Paxilica.

asr-002956
03:59:34.980 --> 03:59:42.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And given three decades of implementation under these models, we'd like to see from BCDA concrete evidence,

asr-002957
03:59:43.120 --> 03:59:53.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: not just projections, that these incentives have generated domestic supply chains,

asr-002958
03:59:53.720 --> 04:00:00.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: import substitution industrialization, or measurable technology transfer into Filipino-owned...

asr-002959
04:00:00.000 --> 04:00:02.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in any existing eco-zone.

asr-002960
04:00:03.540 --> 04:00:07.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dahil po kung hindi natin makita ang ebidensya na ito, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-002961
04:00:07.880 --> 04:00:13.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we would be hard-pressed to see ano pong basihan sa expectation that the same tools

asr-002962
04:00:13.780 --> 04:00:19.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which will be used in Paxilica will produce national industrialization this time.

asr-002963
04:00:19.580 --> 04:00:21.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This time will be different.

asr-002964
04:00:21.960 --> 04:00:26.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Rather than another high-value enclave that imports capital equipment,

asr-002965
04:00:26.580 --> 04:00:33.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: employs a comparatively small-skilled workforce, limited din pa dito ang mga Pinoy,

asr-002966
04:00:33.620 --> 04:00:38.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and will export finished output with limited multiplier effect on the broader economy.

asr-002967
04:00:39.240 --> 04:00:43.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, I no longer have any further questions.

asr-002968
04:00:43.760 --> 04:00:49.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We would be eager to see the results of the information that we requested.

asr-002969
04:00:49.980 --> 04:00:51.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-002970
04:00:52.610 --> 04:00:53.870
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Thank you very much.

asr-002972
04:00:53.870 --> 04:00:55.940
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize,

asr-002973
04:00:55.940 --> 04:00:58.380
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Honorable Elago for her interpellation.

asr-002974
04:00:58.480 --> 04:01:00.200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Ilago is hereby recognized.

asr-002975
04:01:04.020 --> 04:01:06.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

asr-002976
04:01:06.260 --> 04:01:08.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nabanggit ho ito ng ating distinguished sponsor kanina.

asr-002977
04:01:09.140 --> 04:01:14.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa ilalim ng Presidential Proclamation 163 noong 1993,

asr-002978
04:01:14.660 --> 04:01:20.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may 10,724 hectares na excluded sa Clark Special Economic Zone

asr-002979
04:01:20.840 --> 04:01:25.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at dapat itong i-turn over sa Department of Agrarian Reform

asr-002980
04:01:25.080 --> 04:01:25.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ilalim.

asr-002981
04:01:25.940 --> 04:01:27.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nalipat na ba ito ng BCDA?

asr-002982
04:01:28.760 --> 04:01:30.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nailipat na po ba sa DAR?

asr-002983
04:01:30.960 --> 04:01:32.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kailan ito nalipat?

asr-002984
04:01:32.640 --> 04:01:34.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May deed of transfer na po ba?

asr-002986
04:01:36.020 --> 04:01:43.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-002987
04:01:44.460 --> 04:01:46.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: by means of the proclamation,

asr-002988
04:01:47.080 --> 04:01:52.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: itong area po ito ay excluded na sa Clark Freeport and Special Economic Zone.

asr-002989
04:01:54.780 --> 04:01:55.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang katanungan,

asr-002990
04:01:55.940 --> 04:02:02.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ay kung nailipat na nga sa DAR at mayroong deed of transfer.

asr-002991
04:02:02.000 --> 04:02:13.760
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, wala po siya sa jurisdiksyon ng BCDA.

asr-002992
04:02:13.760 --> 04:02:25.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Maybe we can inquire and check with DAR if ano yung status ng tenorial document for these areas.

asr-003000
04:02:28.120 --> 04:02:30.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Itatanong natin ito, Madam Speaker, sa harap ng DAR.

asr-003001
04:02:31.160 --> 04:02:33.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngunit marami din sa DAR actually nagtatanong

asr-003002
04:02:33.660 --> 04:02:36.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol dito sa deed of transfer na ito

asr-003003
04:02:36.000 --> 04:02:37.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para humalinaw

asr-003004
04:02:37.080 --> 04:02:38.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil hindi po biro

asr-003005
04:02:38.380 --> 04:02:41.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung nasa 10,724 hectares

asr-003006
04:02:41.880 --> 04:02:42.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na dapat sana

asr-003007
04:02:42.780 --> 04:02:43.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: inagagamat natin

asr-003008
04:02:43.940 --> 04:02:46.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa lokal na agrikultura

asr-003009
04:02:46.500 --> 04:02:48.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa panahon ngayon

asr-003010
04:02:48.420 --> 04:02:50.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tumataas na

asr-003011
04:02:50.360 --> 04:02:52.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating food import dependence

asr-003012
04:02:52.360 --> 04:02:54.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lalong-lalo na sa bigas,

asr-003013
04:02:54.640 --> 04:02:55.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mais,

asr-003014
04:02:55.440 --> 04:02:55.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dun sa mga

asr-003015
04:02:55.860 --> 04:02:58.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pangunahing pagkain ng ating

asr-003016
04:02:58.020 --> 04:02:58.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga kababayan.

asr-003017
04:03:00.740 --> 04:03:01.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung meron pong ulat,

asr-003018
04:03:02.860 --> 04:03:03.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker,

asr-003019
04:03:04.060 --> 04:03:05.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang BCDA,

asr-003020
04:03:06.380 --> 04:03:07.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol dito, tungkol sa history,

asr-003021
04:03:08.160 --> 04:03:09.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung may mga naging pag-uusap,

asr-003022
04:03:09.880 --> 04:03:12.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol dito sa 10,724,

asr-003023
04:03:12.260 --> 04:03:14.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay may ulat na lang sa representasyon

asr-003024
04:03:14.400 --> 04:03:16.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito at sa ating kapulungan.

asr-003025
04:03:17.280 --> 04:03:18.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, Madam Speaker,

asr-003026
04:03:18.400 --> 04:03:19.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Distinguished Colleague.

asr-003027
04:03:20.860 --> 04:03:22.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, sa deliberasyon

asr-003028
04:03:22.400 --> 04:03:24.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naman ng budget ng DENR,

asr-003029
04:03:24.380 --> 04:03:26.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na-confirma nila

asr-003030
04:03:26.140 --> 04:03:28.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na wala pang environmental impact assessment

asr-003031
04:03:28.600 --> 04:03:30.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na na-apply o na-process

asr-003032
04:03:30.220 --> 04:03:32.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa Paxilica. At wala pa rin

asr-003033
04:03:32.460 --> 04:03:34.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malinaw na project description

asr-003034
04:03:34.480 --> 04:03:36.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na na-isusumite sa

asr-003035
04:03:36.060 --> 04:03:37.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Environmental Management Bureau.

asr-003036
04:03:38.140 --> 04:03:40.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sabi ng DENR, ang existing

asr-003037
04:03:40.200 --> 04:03:42.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ECC ay para sa

asr-003038
04:03:42.020 --> 04:03:44.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: BCDA Master Development Plan.

asr-003039
04:03:45.060 --> 04:03:46.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung may ganitong plano

asr-003040
04:03:46.040 --> 04:03:48.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang pamahalaan sa Paxilica,

asr-003041
04:03:48.960 --> 04:03:50.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bakit wala pa rin po bang

asr-003042
04:03:50.440 --> 04:03:51.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ina-apply na

asr-003043
04:03:51.960 --> 04:03:53.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: environmental impact assessment?

asr-003044
04:03:53.620 --> 04:03:55.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kung hindi pa nasusuri

asr-003045
04:03:55.500 --> 04:03:57.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang environmental impact

asr-003046
04:03:57.640 --> 04:03:59.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng proyekto, paano natin

asr-003047
04:03:59.680 --> 04:04:01.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: masasabing ligtas ito

asr-003048
04:04:01.440 --> 04:04:03.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa lupa, tubig,

asr-003049
04:04:03.600 --> 04:04:05.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agrikultura, sa ating kalikasan

asr-003050
04:04:05.700 --> 04:04:07.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa mga communities

asr-003051
04:04:07.260 --> 04:04:09.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakapaligid sa nasabing area?

asr-003052
04:04:10.040 --> 04:04:11.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished

asr-003053
04:04:11.720 --> 04:04:13.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Colleague, tama po kayo

asr-003054
04:04:13.700 --> 04:04:15.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ang meron pong ECC

asr-003055
04:04:15.720 --> 04:04:17.600
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ang BCDA dun sa kanilang

asr-003056
04:04:17.600 --> 04:04:19.140
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Master Development Plan.

asr-003057
04:04:20.220 --> 04:04:21.660
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pero dahil wala

asr-003058
04:04:21.660 --> 04:04:22.300
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pa pong

asr-003059
04:04:23.620 --> 04:04:25.820
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: final agreements, wala

asr-003060
04:04:25.820 --> 04:04:27.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pa pong final projects,

asr-003061
04:04:27.900 --> 04:04:29.740
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: wala pa po talagang pwedeng i-apply

asr-003062
04:04:29.740 --> 04:04:31.660
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa DENR.

asr-003063
04:04:34.140 --> 04:04:35.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, maghihingi na lang

asr-003064
04:04:35.980 --> 04:04:37.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tayo ng kopya ng

asr-003065
04:04:37.560 --> 04:04:39.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ECC ng BCDA

asr-003066
04:04:39.680 --> 04:04:42.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa kanilang Master Development Plan.

asr-003067
04:04:42.800 --> 04:04:43.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maari po ba natin itong

asr-003068
04:04:43.800 --> 04:04:45.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makuha ngayong gabi?

asr-003069
04:04:47.640 --> 04:04:49.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker,

asr-003070
04:04:49.560 --> 04:04:51.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga katutubong AITA at magsasaka

asr-003071
04:04:51.600 --> 04:04:53.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Kapas Tarlac, nagsagawa po siya

asr-003072
04:04:53.620 --> 04:04:55.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sila ng petisyon para ipahinto

asr-003073
04:04:55.860 --> 04:04:57.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong mga

asr-003074
04:04:57.120 --> 04:04:59.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: efforts ngayon na may kinalaman

asr-003075
04:04:59.820 --> 04:05:02.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Paxilica. Nakakuha na sila

asr-003076
04:05:02.100 --> 04:05:04.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: so far ng 400,000

asr-003077
04:05:04.120 --> 04:05:05.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: verified signatures.

asr-003078
04:05:06.180 --> 04:05:07.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isang ayon naman sa Kapas Town

asr-003079
04:05:07.660 --> 04:05:10.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Government, na higit 30%

asr-003080
04:05:10.260 --> 04:05:12.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lupa ay produktibong

asr-003081
04:05:12.140 --> 04:05:13.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lupang agrikultural.

asr-003082
04:05:13.720 --> 04:05:15.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ibig sabihin, meron talagang

asr-003083
04:05:15.660 --> 04:05:17.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga magsasaka na apektado,

asr-003084
04:05:18.120 --> 04:05:19.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron talagang may kabuhayan

asr-003085
04:05:19.500 --> 04:05:21.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pagsasaka na maapektuhan.

asr-003086
04:05:21.460 --> 04:05:23.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nag-apply na po ba ang BCDA?

asr-003087
04:05:23.620 --> 04:05:26.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng land conversion order para rito?

asr-003088
04:05:27.100 --> 04:05:27.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-003089
04:05:28.060 --> 04:05:29.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: distinguished colleague, again,

asr-003090
04:05:30.580 --> 04:05:31.060
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito pong

asr-003091
04:05:31.060 --> 04:05:33.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: subject area po natin para sa

asr-003092
04:05:33.720 --> 04:05:35.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Clark Advanced Manufacturing

asr-003093
04:05:35.920 --> 04:05:37.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Park, ay isa ay

asr-003094
04:05:37.920 --> 04:05:39.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: titulado sa BCDA

asr-003095
04:05:39.720 --> 04:05:41.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: as a special economic

asr-003096
04:05:41.920 --> 04:05:44.080
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: zone. So, wala pong

asr-003097
04:05:44.080 --> 04:05:45.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: conversion na kailangan

asr-003098
04:05:45.640 --> 04:05:47.380
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: gawin. And

asr-003099
04:05:47.380 --> 04:05:51.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: that's it, Madam Speaker.

asr-003100
04:05:51.880 --> 04:05:52.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker,

asr-003101
04:05:52.460 --> 04:05:54.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi-dismiss na lang po ba

asr-003102
04:05:54.580 --> 04:05:56.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin itong sinabi po

asr-003103
04:05:57.140 --> 04:05:59.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng puno ng lokal na

asr-003104
04:05:59.360 --> 04:06:00.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pamahalaan ng Kapas,

asr-003105
04:06:01.500 --> 04:06:02.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mahigit 30%

asr-003106
04:06:02.800 --> 04:06:04.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lupa na yan ay

asr-003107
04:06:04.120 --> 04:06:06.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: productive agricultural land.

asr-003108
04:06:06.860 --> 04:06:08.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa tingin ko, isa po itong

asr-003109
04:06:08.520 --> 04:06:10.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bagay na hindi natin basta-basta

asr-003110
04:06:10.980 --> 04:06:12.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isasantabi.

asr-003111
04:06:12.740 --> 04:06:14.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil nga ho, sa panahon

asr-003112
04:06:14.780 --> 04:06:16.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na kinakailangan natin na

asr-003113
04:06:16.520 --> 04:06:18.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: preserbahin, proteksyonan

asr-003114
04:06:18.280 --> 04:06:20.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating prime

asr-003115
04:06:20.380 --> 04:06:22.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agricultural lands, ay

asr-003116
04:06:22.300 --> 04:06:24.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nararapat lamang na

asr-003117
04:06:24.060 --> 04:06:25.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi po natin basta-basta

asr-003118
04:06:25.800 --> 04:06:28.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: baliwalain ang ganitong mga pahayag.

asr-003119
04:06:28.820 --> 04:06:30.360
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished

asr-003120
04:06:30.360 --> 04:06:32.560
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: colleague, baka po

asr-003121
04:06:32.560 --> 04:06:34.740
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: merong discrepancy

asr-003122
04:06:34.740 --> 04:06:36.400
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: dun sa sinasabi po ng ating

asr-003123
04:06:36.400 --> 04:06:38.580
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: mga magsasaka sa tinuturing

asr-003124
04:06:38.580 --> 04:06:40.840
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: po nilang lupa na mawawala

asr-003125
04:06:40.840 --> 04:06:42.240
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: na kanila pong

asr-003126
04:06:42.240 --> 04:06:44.160
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sinasakahan. Siguro

asr-003127
04:06:44.160 --> 04:06:46.400
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: i-check po ng BCDA yan

asr-003128
04:06:46.400 --> 04:06:48.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: para makonfirm kasi po

asr-003129
04:06:48.320 --> 04:06:50.200
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito pong subject area po natin

asr-003130
04:06:50.200 --> 04:06:51.180
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: na 1,500

asr-003131
04:06:51.180 --> 04:06:53.600
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 500, 1,600

asr-003132
04:06:53.600 --> 04:06:55.740
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hectares. Again, hindi po

asr-003133
04:06:55.740 --> 04:06:57.580
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito, ito po ay

asr-003134
04:06:57.580 --> 04:06:59.300
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: special economic zone

asr-003135
04:06:59.300 --> 04:07:01.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: for industrial development.

asr-003136
04:07:02.480 --> 04:07:03.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, ang statement

asr-003137
04:07:03.680 --> 04:07:05.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay nanggaling sa local government

asr-003138
04:07:05.740 --> 04:07:07.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: unit. Kaya ho,

asr-003139
04:07:08.700 --> 04:07:09.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maaaring magkaroon dito

asr-003140
04:07:09.940 --> 04:07:11.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng agara na kalinawan

asr-003141
04:07:12.660 --> 04:07:14.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at matiyak po natin

asr-003142
04:07:14.120 --> 04:07:15.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pape-preserba ang ating

asr-003143
04:07:15.980 --> 04:07:17.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: agricultural lands. Ngayon

asr-003144
04:07:17.820 --> 04:07:19.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naman, sa section 5,

asr-003145
04:07:19.260 --> 04:07:21.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: letter K sa ilalim ng

asr-003146
04:07:21.080 --> 04:07:23.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Republic Act No. 7227,

asr-003147
04:07:23.600 --> 04:07:25.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pwedeng mag-exercise ng

asr-003148
04:07:25.120 --> 04:07:27.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: right of

asr-003149
04:07:27.200 --> 04:07:29.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: eminent domain ang BCDA.

asr-003150
04:07:29.720 --> 04:07:30.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Meron na po bang

asr-003151
04:07:30.580 --> 04:07:33.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in-appropriate na lupa ang BCDA

asr-003152
04:07:33.400 --> 04:07:35.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bilang paghahanda

asr-003153
04:07:35.380 --> 04:07:37.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o may kinalaman dito

asr-003154
04:07:37.200 --> 04:07:38.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Paksilika?

asr-003155
04:07:39.680 --> 04:07:41.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, dahil

asr-003156
04:07:41.280 --> 04:07:42.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pag-aari po ng

asr-003157
04:07:42.440 --> 04:07:44.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: BCDA, itong

asr-003158
04:07:44.680 --> 04:07:47.560
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Clark Freeport

asr-003159
04:07:47.560 --> 04:07:49.040
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: and Special Economic Zone,

asr-003160
04:07:49.260 --> 04:07:51.460
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po kailangan mag-exappropriate

asr-003161
04:07:51.460 --> 04:07:53.480
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kasi sa kanila po yung lupa.

asr-003162
04:07:55.120 --> 04:07:57.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang sabi din po ng BCDA, Madam Speaker,

asr-003163
04:07:57.520 --> 04:07:58.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay maaaring bigyan

asr-003164
04:07:58.800 --> 04:08:01.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lease na hanggang 99 years

asr-003165
04:08:01.420 --> 04:08:03.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga foreign investors

asr-003166
04:08:03.360 --> 04:08:05.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Paksilika. Sinasabi

asr-003167
04:08:05.320 --> 04:08:07.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng BCDA na hindi naman ibinibigay

asr-003168
04:08:07.760 --> 04:08:09.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ownership ng lupa

asr-003169
04:08:09.640 --> 04:08:11.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil mananatili itong pag-aari

asr-003170
04:08:11.720 --> 04:08:13.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Philippine Government.

asr-003171
04:08:13.400 --> 04:08:15.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero kapag ang isang pribadong

asr-003172
04:08:15.120 --> 04:08:17.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: foreign investor ay may karapatang

asr-003173
04:08:17.460 --> 04:08:19.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gumamit at mag-develop ng lupa,

asr-003174
04:08:19.260 --> 04:08:20.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa loob ng

asr-003175
04:08:20.920 --> 04:08:23.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 99 years, hindi ba't

asr-003176
04:08:24.040 --> 04:08:25.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sila na ang may

asr-003177
04:08:25.140 --> 04:08:26.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: control sa lupa sa panahon yun?

asr-003178
04:08:28.120 --> 04:08:29.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Parang naipaubayan

asr-003179
04:08:29.660 --> 04:08:30.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na po natin.

asr-003180
04:08:31.600 --> 04:08:33.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Naipaubayan na ng gobyerno

asr-003181
04:08:33.180 --> 04:08:34.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Pilipinas sa kamay ng dayuhan

asr-003182
04:08:34.920 --> 04:08:37.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong 1,620 hectares

asr-003183
04:08:37.600 --> 04:08:38.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating mga lupain.

asr-003184
04:08:39.280 --> 04:08:41.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-003185
04:08:41.980 --> 04:08:43.160
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: itong long-term

asr-003186
04:08:43.160 --> 04:08:45.460
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: lease na umaabot ng 99 years,

asr-003187
04:08:45.980 --> 04:08:47.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung mga locator

asr-003188
04:08:47.280 --> 04:08:49.220
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: o yung mga investor na papasok

asr-003189
04:08:49.260 --> 04:08:51.040
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: po dito, will still be subject

asr-003190
04:08:51.040 --> 04:08:53.120
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: to Philippine laws, kaya

asr-003191
04:08:53.120 --> 04:08:53.960
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: po

asr-003192
04:08:53.960 --> 04:08:57.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po

asr-003193
04:08:57.680 --> 04:08:59.140
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: magiging

asr-003194
04:08:59.140 --> 04:09:00.940
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pag-aari at hindi po

asr-003195
04:09:00.940 --> 04:09:03.260
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: mapapas sa kanila itong lupang ito.

asr-003196
04:09:04.280 --> 04:09:05.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker,

asr-003197
04:09:05.560 --> 04:09:06.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong naipasa

asr-003198
04:09:06.840 --> 04:09:09.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang batas na ito at tungkol

asr-003199
04:09:09.240 --> 04:09:10.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po sa 99-year

asr-003200
04:09:10.680 --> 04:09:13.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Foreign Investors

asr-003201
04:09:13.540 --> 04:09:14.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lease Act,

asr-003202
04:09:15.400 --> 04:09:17.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang boto ng Gabriela

asr-003203
04:09:17.040 --> 04:09:18.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Women's Party ay pagtutol.

asr-003204
04:09:19.260 --> 04:09:20.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mag-know po tayo sa

asr-003205
04:09:20.860 --> 04:09:23.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: batas na ito. Dahil

asr-003206
04:09:23.100 --> 04:09:24.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: habang walang lupang masaka

asr-003207
04:09:24.600 --> 04:09:27.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga magsasaka at inaagawan

asr-003208
04:09:27.160 --> 04:09:28.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lupa ang mga katutubo,

asr-003209
04:09:29.340 --> 04:09:31.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dayuhan pa ang makikinabang

asr-003210
04:09:31.260 --> 04:09:32.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga lupain.

asr-003211
04:09:32.900 --> 04:09:34.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nang higit pa po sa average lifespan

asr-003212
04:09:34.940 --> 04:09:37.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga Pilipino. 99 years

asr-003213
04:09:37.300 --> 04:09:38.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yan, Madam Speaker.

asr-003214
04:09:38.940 --> 04:09:41.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang lifespan po ng mga Pilipino

asr-003215
04:09:41.160 --> 04:09:43.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa average, 74 years

asr-003216
04:09:43.540 --> 04:09:45.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa babae, 68 po

asr-003217
04:09:45.260 --> 04:09:46.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa lalaki.

asr-003218
04:09:46.960 --> 04:09:48.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang dati pong batas na umiiral

asr-003219
04:09:49.260 --> 04:09:51.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Investors Lease Act,

asr-003220
04:09:51.880 --> 04:09:53.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang maximum para sa

asr-003221
04:09:53.400 --> 04:09:55.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: long-term leases ay

asr-003222
04:09:55.000 --> 04:09:57.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa 50 years lang na pwedeng

asr-003223
04:09:57.460 --> 04:09:59.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: i-extend sa dagdag

asr-003224
04:09:59.340 --> 04:10:01.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 25 years. Pero ngayon po,

asr-003225
04:10:02.160 --> 04:10:02.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa isang

asr-003226
04:10:02.920 --> 04:10:05.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: GONO agreement,

asr-003227
04:10:05.780 --> 04:10:07.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maaari na po yung maximum

asr-003228
04:10:07.040 --> 04:10:09.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na 99 years. Kaya po,

asr-003229
04:10:09.360 --> 04:10:11.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mariin po yan na tinututulan

asr-003230
04:10:11.420 --> 04:10:13.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ating representasyon

asr-003231
04:10:13.360 --> 04:10:15.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga kababaihan. Ngayon naman,

asr-003232
04:10:15.520 --> 04:10:16.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker,

asr-003233
04:10:17.140 --> 04:10:19.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isang ayon din po sa BCDA,

asr-003234
04:10:19.260 --> 04:10:21.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mangangailangan ang proyekto

asr-003235
04:10:21.320 --> 04:10:23.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ito sa kanilang tansya

asr-003236
04:10:23.280 --> 04:10:25.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng 65 to 90 million liters

asr-003237
04:10:25.520 --> 04:10:26.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of water

asr-003238
04:10:26.660 --> 04:10:29.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kada araw. Kaya po sila

asr-003239
04:10:29.360 --> 04:10:30.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: inagdidesenyo na ng sistema

asr-003240
04:10:30.960 --> 04:10:33.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung saan magkakaroon

asr-003241
04:10:33.440 --> 04:10:34.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagsusupply ng

asr-003242
04:10:34.720 --> 04:10:37.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o asigurado tayo

asr-003243
04:10:37.060 --> 04:10:39.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may capacity na

asr-003244
04:10:39.000 --> 04:10:40.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 135 million liters

asr-003245
04:10:40.900 --> 04:10:43.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na tubig kada araw na susuporta

asr-003246
04:10:43.120 --> 04:10:45.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito. Sa pag-aaral din ng BCDA,

asr-003247
04:10:46.140 --> 04:10:47.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang mga ilog

asr-003248
04:10:47.020 --> 04:10:49.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Bangot River o Donald

asr-003249
04:10:49.180 --> 04:10:51.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: River at Abacan River

asr-003250
04:10:51.380 --> 04:10:52.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay

asr-003251
04:10:52.580 --> 04:10:54.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maaaring maging source

asr-003252
04:10:54.920 --> 04:10:57.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o sa kanila pong pag-aaral

asr-003253
04:10:57.020 --> 04:10:59.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung natapos na pong pag-aaral na ito.

asr-003254
04:11:00.400 --> 04:11:01.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bangot River pa lang

asr-003255
04:11:01.400 --> 04:11:02.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang tinitignan so far

asr-003256
04:11:02.900 --> 04:11:04.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at napag-aralan at

asr-003257
04:11:04.940 --> 04:11:07.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sinabi niyo po na sobra pa ang makukuha.

asr-003258
04:11:08.140 --> 04:11:09.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po ba meron

asr-003259
04:11:09.200 --> 04:11:11.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din mga manging isda sa Bangot River?

asr-003260
04:11:18.520 --> 04:11:19.120
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam,

asr-003261
04:11:19.180 --> 04:11:19.820
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-003262
04:11:20.160 --> 04:11:21.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-003263
04:11:22.100 --> 04:11:25.060
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: wala po kaming informasyon

asr-003264
04:11:25.060 --> 04:11:26.400
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: tungkol po dito.

asr-003265
04:11:27.980 --> 04:11:30.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Speaker, madaling

asr-003266
04:11:30.020 --> 04:11:32.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: search lang po sa

asr-003267
04:11:32.280 --> 04:11:33.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ating mga

asr-003268
04:11:33.920 --> 04:11:36.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sites

asr-003269
04:11:36.640 --> 04:11:38.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa internet.

asr-003270
04:11:39.140 --> 04:11:40.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nakita po namin na

asr-003271
04:11:40.640 --> 04:11:42.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong 2023, meron pong

asr-003272
04:11:42.820 --> 04:11:44.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: balita na mga personel

asr-003273
04:11:44.640 --> 04:11:46.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mula sa BIFAR

asr-003274
04:11:46.000 --> 04:11:48.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa Provincial Fisheries

asr-003275
04:11:48.300 --> 04:11:48.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Office.

asr-003276
04:11:49.180 --> 04:11:50.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na nag-release ng

asr-003277
04:11:50.720 --> 04:11:52.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa 24,000

asr-003278
04:11:52.420 --> 04:11:55.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: common carp and 46,000

asr-003279
04:11:55.400 --> 04:11:57.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tilapia fingerlings

asr-003280
04:11:57.280 --> 04:11:59.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Bangot River

asr-003281
04:11:59.420 --> 04:12:01.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na located po sa

asr-003282
04:12:01.280 --> 04:12:02.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bamban, Tarlac

asr-003283
04:12:02.800 --> 04:12:05.180
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na magbe-benefit sa mga

asr-003284
04:12:05.180 --> 04:12:06.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: indigenous fisher folk

asr-003285
04:12:06.840 --> 04:12:07.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa area.

asr-003286
04:12:09.140 --> 04:12:10.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po malinaw na merong

asr-003287
04:12:10.460 --> 04:12:13.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasaysayan kumbaga na yung

asr-003288
04:12:13.140 --> 04:12:15.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: area po na yun, meron po tayong

asr-003289
04:12:15.220 --> 04:12:16.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga indigenous

asr-003290
04:12:16.580 --> 04:12:18.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: fisher folk na

asr-003291
04:12:18.520 --> 04:12:20.420
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakadepende po ang kanilang

asr-003292
04:12:20.420 --> 04:12:23.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kabuhayan doon po sa ating

asr-003293
04:12:23.040 --> 04:12:24.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga ilog sa naturang

asr-003294
04:12:24.680 --> 04:12:25.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lugar.

asr-003295
04:12:26.900 --> 04:12:29.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yan po ang isa po sa

asr-003296
04:12:29.060 --> 04:12:30.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga bagay na

asr-003297
04:12:30.460 --> 04:12:33.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isang click lang po yan makikita na.

asr-003298
04:12:33.640 --> 04:12:34.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sigurado po ako pag

asr-003299
04:12:34.940 --> 04:12:37.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas malalim pang pag-aaral

asr-003300
04:12:37.000 --> 04:12:39.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung gagawin natin ang

asr-003301
04:12:39.080 --> 04:12:41.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas diligent po

asr-003302
04:12:41.740 --> 04:12:42.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na inspection,

asr-003303
04:12:43.280 --> 04:12:44.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagbisita doon sa mismong lugar.

asr-003304
04:12:45.720 --> 04:12:47.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Natitiyak po ako na

asr-003305
04:12:47.120 --> 04:12:48.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mas makakuha pa tayo.

asr-003306
04:12:48.520 --> 04:12:50.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang informasyon tungkol doon sa mga

asr-003307
04:12:50.580 --> 04:12:52.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kababayan nating katutubo

asr-003308
04:12:52.240 --> 04:12:54.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakadepende ang kanilang kabuhayan

asr-003309
04:12:54.700 --> 04:12:56.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga nabanggit na mga ilog.

asr-003310
04:12:57.420 --> 04:12:58.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nag-iisa pa lang yan, Madam

asr-003311
04:12:58.760 --> 04:13:01.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Speaker, wala pa po tayo

asr-003312
04:13:01.380 --> 04:13:02.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ditong nasabing information

asr-003313
04:13:02.800 --> 04:13:05.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tungkol sa dalawa pa na nabanggit

asr-003314
04:13:05.020 --> 04:13:05.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mga ilog.

asr-003315
04:13:06.740 --> 04:13:08.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon naman, Madam Speaker,

asr-003316
04:13:09.720 --> 04:13:11.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating naman sa power,

asr-003317
04:13:11.300 --> 04:13:12.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa requirement po,

asr-003318
04:13:12.480 --> 04:13:14.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa power,

asr-003319
04:13:14.480 --> 04:13:16.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sabi ng BCDA na meron

asr-003320
04:13:16.260 --> 04:13:17.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng initial investors.

asr-003321
04:13:18.520 --> 04:13:20.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa Solar Farms at may mga malalaking

asr-003322
04:13:20.780 --> 04:13:22.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: foreign investments na.

asr-003323
04:13:22.820 --> 04:13:25.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sino-sino po ba ang mga investors na ito?

asr-003324
04:13:25.620 --> 04:13:26.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Saan itatayo ang mga

asr-003325
04:13:26.760 --> 04:13:27.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Solar Farms?

asr-003326
04:13:40.360 --> 04:13:43.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yung Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-003327
04:13:43.100 --> 04:13:44.600
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung Solar Farm po

asr-003328
04:13:44.600 --> 04:13:46.200
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay sa loob po ng

asr-003329
04:13:46.200 --> 04:13:48.480
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Special Economic

asr-003330
04:13:48.520 --> 04:13:49.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Zone ilalagay.

asr-003331
04:13:59.100 --> 04:14:00.560
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: At meron din pong

asr-003332
04:14:00.560 --> 04:14:02.820
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pinag-aaralang LNG power plant

asr-003333
04:14:02.820 --> 04:14:04.480
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa loob din po ng

asr-003334
04:14:04.480 --> 04:14:06.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ating Special Economic Zone.

asr-003335
04:14:07.940 --> 04:14:08.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ano pong timeline

asr-003336
04:14:08.660 --> 04:14:10.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nyo sa mga pag-aaral na yan?

asr-003337
04:14:12.300 --> 04:14:13.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kailan po matatapos?

asr-003338
04:14:14.100 --> 04:14:15.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kailan po tayo mabibigyan ng

asr-003339
04:14:15.460 --> 04:14:17.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: informasyon na nakalapat

asr-003340
04:14:17.880 --> 04:14:18.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa datos?

asr-003341
04:14:18.520 --> 04:14:19.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa siyensya?

asr-003342
04:14:20.820 --> 04:14:22.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-003343
04:14:22.880 --> 04:14:24.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung ating pong Solar Farm

asr-003344
04:14:24.440 --> 04:14:25.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay ongoing na.

asr-003345
04:14:26.200 --> 04:14:28.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Hopefully po within two years,

asr-003346
04:14:28.740 --> 04:14:31.040
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po ay makukompleto na po.

asr-003347
04:14:31.840 --> 04:14:32.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Two years.

asr-003348
04:14:33.380 --> 04:14:34.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero ngayon pa lang, Madam Speaker,

asr-003349
04:14:35.700 --> 04:14:36.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron pong pag-aaral

asr-003350
04:14:36.820 --> 04:14:39.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na sa tarlak pa lang,

asr-003351
04:14:41.020 --> 04:14:42.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lubhanang lumiit

asr-003352
04:14:42.020 --> 04:14:43.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lupang agrikultural

asr-003353
04:14:43.320 --> 04:14:45.280
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil po sa expansion

asr-003354
04:14:45.280 --> 04:14:47.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng Solar Power Farms

asr-003355
04:14:47.200 --> 04:14:48.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may paglalagay.

asr-003356
04:14:48.520 --> 04:14:50.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Laki po na nasa 300%.

asr-003357
04:14:50.520 --> 04:14:52.380
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-003358
04:14:52.380 --> 04:14:53.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ibang level po ito.

asr-003359
04:14:53.940 --> 04:14:55.660
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-003360
04:14:55.860 --> 04:14:58.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito pong binabanggit po namin

asr-003361
04:14:58.800 --> 04:15:00.000
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ang ongoing na

asr-003363
04:15:00.000 --> 04:15:01.820
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: solar farm, again, is

asr-003364
04:15:01.820 --> 04:15:03.940
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: within the special

asr-003365
04:15:03.940 --> 04:15:04.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: economic zone.

asr-003366
04:15:06.720 --> 04:15:08.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon, Madam Speaker, sabi

asr-003367
04:15:08.000 --> 04:15:09.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po sa atin ng DA,

asr-003368
04:15:10.140 --> 04:15:12.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil po sila ay nabahala na dito

asr-003369
04:15:12.040 --> 04:15:13.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang 300% yung expansion,

asr-003370
04:15:13.900 --> 04:15:15.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: samantalang paliit po ng paliit

asr-003371
04:15:15.520 --> 04:15:17.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga natatamna natin

asr-003372
04:15:17.740 --> 04:15:19.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagkain, lalo na po

asr-003373
04:15:19.720 --> 04:15:21.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng palay, ay magkakaroon sila

asr-003374
04:15:21.720 --> 04:15:23.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng geofencing program.

asr-003375
04:15:23.860 --> 04:15:25.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At makakatulungan nila dito yung DAR,

asr-003376
04:15:26.180 --> 04:15:27.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga kasama din ng Department

asr-003377
04:15:27.740 --> 04:15:29.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of Energy. Pero sa lahat po

asr-003378
04:15:29.520 --> 04:15:30.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ito, ang

asr-003379
04:15:30.860 --> 04:15:33.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: atin pong panawagan,

asr-003380
04:15:33.520 --> 04:15:35.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil sa dami din nung maaaring

asr-003381
04:15:35.460 --> 04:15:37.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maapekto ka ng mga magsasaka,

asr-003382
04:15:37.540 --> 04:15:39.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at yung mismong siguridad sa pagkain

asr-003383
04:15:39.740 --> 04:15:41.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa bansa, dahil

asr-003384
04:15:41.480 --> 04:15:43.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Central Luzon po ay ang rice

asr-003385
04:15:43.360 --> 04:15:45.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: granary ng Pilipinas. Dahil po

asr-003386
04:15:45.320 --> 04:15:47.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dito, may nabuong

asr-003387
04:15:47.480 --> 04:15:49.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: network yung Save the

asr-003388
04:15:49.520 --> 04:15:51.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Rice Granary. At dito po

asr-003389
04:15:51.500 --> 04:15:53.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Save the Rice Granary,

asr-003390
04:15:53.320 --> 04:15:54.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Save Rice Granary campaign,

asr-003391
04:15:55.420 --> 04:15:57.160
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung network na sumusuporta dito,

asr-003392
04:15:57.160 --> 04:15:59.120
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang panawagan po talaga ay

asr-003393
04:15:59.120 --> 04:16:00.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi naman po tayo tutol sa renewable

asr-003394
04:16:00.840 --> 04:16:03.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: energy development. Hindi po tayo tutol

asr-003395
04:16:03.100 --> 04:16:05.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ekspansyon ng mas maraming

asr-003396
04:16:05.020 --> 04:16:06.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sources ng renewable energy.

asr-003397
04:16:07.720 --> 04:16:09.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po tayo tutol dyan.

asr-003398
04:16:09.400 --> 04:16:10.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang tinututulan po natin ay

asr-003399
04:16:10.980 --> 04:16:13.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kapag nasasakripisyo

asr-003400
04:16:13.040 --> 04:16:14.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung pagsasaka,

asr-003401
04:16:14.900 --> 04:16:17.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasasakripisyo yung pangarap natin

asr-003402
04:16:17.220 --> 04:16:18.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa food self-sufficiency,

asr-003403
04:16:19.720 --> 04:16:21.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasasakripisyo yung pangarap

asr-003404
04:16:21.060 --> 04:16:22.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin para sa rice self-sufficiency.

asr-003405
04:16:23.600 --> 04:16:24.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nauuna yung

asr-003406
04:16:24.960 --> 04:16:25.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: interes ng

asr-003407
04:16:25.780 --> 04:16:28.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: negosyo at dayuhan

asr-003408
04:16:28.700 --> 04:16:31.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga napakahalagang lupain na ito.

asr-003409
04:16:31.480 --> 04:16:32.820
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished

asr-003410
04:16:32.820 --> 04:16:34.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Colleague, para po sa ating

asr-003411
04:16:34.640 --> 04:16:36.600
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kaalaman, dito po

asr-003412
04:16:36.600 --> 04:16:38.560
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa loob ng ating Freeport

asr-003413
04:16:38.560 --> 04:16:40.080
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at Special Economic Zone,

asr-003414
04:16:40.560 --> 04:16:42.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: meron din po tayong plano

asr-003415
04:16:42.720 --> 04:16:45.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa pagpapatayo

asr-003416
04:16:45.320 --> 04:16:46.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng mga

asr-003417
04:16:46.520 --> 04:16:48.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: modern agriculture

asr-003418
04:16:48.800 --> 04:16:50.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: farms

asr-003419
04:16:50.620 --> 04:16:52.380
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: na kung saan ito rin po

asr-003420
04:16:52.380 --> 04:16:54.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay isang sagot sa ating

asr-003421
04:16:54.700 --> 04:16:55.120
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pong

asr-003422
04:16:55.780 --> 04:16:56.560
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pangangailangan

asr-003423
04:16:56.560 --> 04:16:58.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: para po sa ating pong pagkain.

asr-003424
04:17:01.300 --> 04:17:02.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ngayon po Madam Speaker,

asr-003425
04:17:03.140 --> 04:17:04.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagaling po dito kanina ang NCIP

asr-003426
04:17:04.840 --> 04:17:06.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sinabi po nila

asr-003427
04:17:06.660 --> 04:17:08.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na wala pa nga pong FPIC

asr-003428
04:17:08.540 --> 04:17:10.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dahil meron din pong

asr-003429
04:17:10.640 --> 04:17:13.220
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga concerns at tungkol sa pagkakaroon

asr-003430
04:17:13.220 --> 04:17:14.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng certificate

asr-003431
04:17:14.560 --> 04:17:16.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mismo ng ancestral domain.

asr-003432
04:17:16.880 --> 04:17:19.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero sa akin pong

asr-003433
04:17:19.100 --> 04:17:20.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sariling karanasan

asr-003434
04:17:20.840 --> 04:17:23.080
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pagbisita sa Tarlac.

asr-003435
04:17:23.680 --> 04:17:25.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ito lang pong nakaraang

asr-003436
04:17:25.020 --> 04:17:25.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: linggo.

asr-003437
04:17:25.780 --> 04:17:28.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Nag-participate po tayo

asr-003438
04:17:28.900 --> 04:17:30.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa caravan para po

asr-003439
04:17:30.400 --> 04:17:32.100
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malaman mismo

asr-003440
04:17:32.100 --> 04:17:34.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa community yung

asr-003441
04:17:34.600 --> 04:17:35.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang kalagayan.

asr-003442
04:17:36.800 --> 04:17:38.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung kwento po nila,

asr-003443
04:17:38.780 --> 04:17:40.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung kanila pong mga families

asr-003444
04:17:40.500 --> 04:17:42.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay bago pa may BCDA

asr-003445
04:17:42.720 --> 04:17:43.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nandun na po sila.

asr-003446
04:17:45.540 --> 04:17:46.520
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Bago pa pumasok

asr-003447
04:17:46.520 --> 04:17:48.140
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang BCDA noong 1992,

asr-003448
04:17:49.440 --> 04:17:52.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: meron na pong nakatira doon.

asr-003449
04:17:53.160 --> 04:17:55.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nandun na yung mga katutubo

asr-003450
04:17:55.500 --> 04:17:55.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at yung mga katutubo.

asr-003451
04:17:55.780 --> 04:17:59.840
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sila mismo yung tumutulong

asr-003452
04:17:59.840 --> 04:18:01.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para linangin ang

asr-003453
04:18:01.780 --> 04:18:03.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lupang agrikultura.

asr-003454
04:18:04.100 --> 04:18:05.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po ito madali

asr-003455
04:18:05.620 --> 04:18:06.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasi

asr-003456
04:18:06.060 --> 04:18:11.580
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naririnig mo na sila po yung

asr-003457
04:18:11.580 --> 04:18:13.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagsusumikap

asr-003458
04:18:13.340 --> 04:18:15.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na ma-maintain yung

asr-003459
04:18:15.340 --> 04:18:17.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ganda ng ating kalikasan

asr-003460
04:18:17.360 --> 04:18:19.360
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero sila din yung first

asr-003461
04:18:19.360 --> 04:18:21.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nabibiktima ng displacement.

asr-003462
04:18:23.860 --> 04:18:25.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At medyo

asr-003463
04:18:25.620 --> 04:18:26.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano po ako kasi

asr-003464
04:18:26.920 --> 04:18:29.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakita ko po yung kahirapan

asr-003465
04:18:29.320 --> 04:18:31.240
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po ang hindi po fair

asr-003466
04:18:31.240 --> 04:18:33.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga indigenous people

asr-003467
04:18:33.560 --> 04:18:35.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin na ganoon po sila.

asr-003468
04:18:35.160 --> 04:18:36.020
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil sobrang hirap

asr-003469
04:18:36.020 --> 04:18:37.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: noong kanilang kalagayan.

asr-003470
04:18:38.180 --> 04:18:38.640
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po,

asr-003471
04:18:40.040 --> 04:18:42.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kaya yun na yung kanilang lupa

asr-003472
04:18:42.300 --> 04:18:44.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay yung kusan sila nakatira

asr-003473
04:18:44.960 --> 04:18:47.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: punasan yung kanilang mga

asr-003474
04:18:47.000 --> 04:18:49.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ancestral na

asr-003475
04:18:49.480 --> 04:18:50.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: burial grounds

asr-003476
04:18:50.620 --> 04:18:52.400
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay haharap pa sa

asr-003477
04:18:52.400 --> 04:18:55.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: madali pong sabihin saan.

asr-003478
04:18:55.620 --> 04:18:56.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dati na ilipat na lang

asr-003479
04:18:56.880 --> 04:18:58.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ganyan pero hindi po ganun kadali

asr-003480
04:18:58.500 --> 04:18:59.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kasi yun yung kanilang

asr-003481
04:18:59.700 --> 04:19:00.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: akultura.

asr-003482
04:19:01.500 --> 04:19:02.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yun po yung kanilang

asr-003483
04:19:02.760 --> 04:19:06.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gawi, di ba?

asr-003484
04:19:06.880 --> 04:19:09.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na i-maintain yung kanilang

asr-003485
04:19:09.480 --> 04:19:11.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga ancestral na

asr-003486
04:19:11.600 --> 04:19:13.720
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: burial grounds na secret po

asr-003487
04:19:13.720 --> 04:19:15.040
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ating mga katutubo.

asr-003488
04:19:15.200 --> 04:19:15.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po,

asr-003489
04:19:16.740 --> 04:19:21.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi po ako magpapasensya kasi kahit po

asr-003490
04:19:21.760 --> 04:19:23.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mahirap po.

asr-003491
04:19:23.680 --> 04:19:25.480
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung sa tingin ko po napakahalaga.

asr-003492
04:19:25.620 --> 04:19:27.980
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na malaman po ninyo na

asr-003493
04:19:27.980 --> 04:19:30.880
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung mga katutubo po talaga

asr-003494
04:19:30.880 --> 04:19:31.760
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itumitindig.

asr-003495
04:19:32.980 --> 04:19:35.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na sila po ay kasama natin

asr-003496
04:19:35.000 --> 04:19:35.820
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kunlaran.

asr-003497
04:19:36.640 --> 04:19:38.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Pero huwag naman po sana sila may isang tabi

asr-003498
04:19:38.700 --> 04:19:41.460
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa lahat po

asr-003499
04:19:41.460 --> 04:19:42.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pangarap natin

asr-003500
04:19:42.600 --> 04:19:44.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa pagunlad ng ating bansa.

asr-003501
04:19:45.780 --> 04:19:47.000
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Dahil yung lupa po nila

asr-003502
04:19:47.000 --> 04:19:48.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung sa atin parang simple lang yung

asr-003503
04:19:48.620 --> 04:19:50.700
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: paglipat pero yung lupa

asr-003504
04:19:50.700 --> 04:19:52.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa katutubo ay

asr-003505
04:19:52.340 --> 04:19:54.960
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tahanan po nila

asr-003506
04:19:54.960 --> 04:19:55.600
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lupa.

asr-003507
04:19:55.620 --> 04:19:57.900
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yung kabuhayan nila, pinagkukunan nila

asr-003508
04:19:57.900 --> 04:19:58.740
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pagkain.

asr-003509
04:19:59.620 --> 04:20:00.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para sa mga katutubo,

asr-003510
04:20:01.600 --> 04:20:03.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kanilang pamayanan, para sa magsasaka

asr-003511
04:20:03.800 --> 04:20:05.940
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at bahagi na

asr-003512
04:20:05.940 --> 04:20:07.500
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng kanilang kasaysayan

asr-003513
04:20:07.500 --> 04:20:09.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at buhay ng kanilang komunidad.

asr-003514
04:20:09.980 --> 04:20:10.540
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Kaya po,

asr-003515
04:20:11.140 --> 04:20:13.660
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nababahala. Hindi lang po sila

asr-003516
04:20:13.660 --> 04:20:15.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pero maski po ako sobrang affected

asr-003517
04:20:15.300 --> 04:20:16.320
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na

asr-003518
04:20:16.320 --> 04:20:19.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kumigit-kumulang

asr-003519
04:20:19.340 --> 04:20:21.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 1,620 na ektarya

asr-003520
04:20:21.560 --> 04:20:23.780
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng lupa sa Nuclar City ang ilalaan

asr-003521
04:20:23.780 --> 04:20:24.860
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa Paksilika.

asr-003522
04:20:25.620 --> 04:20:27.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa totoo lang po, hindi lang po ako.

asr-003523
04:20:27.380 --> 04:20:29.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Marami pong nagjoin doon sa caravan

asr-003524
04:20:29.380 --> 04:20:31.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: last week.

asr-003525
04:20:31.380 --> 04:20:33.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Para po, malaman mismo

asr-003526
04:20:33.380 --> 04:20:35.380
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na hindi lang sa social media,

asr-003527
04:20:35.380 --> 04:20:36.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lang sa internet.

asr-003528
04:20:36.620 --> 04:20:38.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Makita mismo, makausap mismo

asr-003529
04:20:38.620 --> 04:20:40.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ITA community

asr-003530
04:20:40.620 --> 04:20:42.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: doon sa lugar.

asr-003531
04:20:42.620 --> 04:20:44.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At

asr-003532
04:20:44.620 --> 04:20:46.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nakita ko po talaga doon na gustong-gusto nila ng

asr-003533
04:20:46.620 --> 04:20:48.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagunlad. Pero yung tunay na pagunlad

asr-003534
04:20:48.620 --> 04:20:50.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dapat kasama sila.

asr-003535
04:20:50.620 --> 04:20:52.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nakabatay po sa

asr-003536
04:20:52.620 --> 04:20:54.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prinsipyo na hindi natin

asr-003537
04:20:54.620 --> 04:20:56.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: isasakripisyo ang lupa

asr-003538
04:20:56.620 --> 04:20:58.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng magsasaka,

asr-003539
04:20:58.620 --> 04:21:00.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lupa ng ancestral lands,

asr-003540
04:21:00.620 --> 04:21:02.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ancestral lands ng ating

asr-003541
04:21:02.620 --> 04:21:04.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga katutupo

asr-003542
04:21:04.620 --> 04:21:06.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at ang kalikasan para lamang

asr-003543
04:21:06.620 --> 04:21:08.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: makapagbigay ng espasyo sa malalaking

asr-003544
04:21:08.620 --> 04:21:10.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dayuhan na pumumunan.

asr-003545
04:21:10.620 --> 04:21:12.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Napakayaman po ng Pilipinas.

asr-003546
04:21:12.620 --> 04:21:14.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa tingin ko po kung

asr-003547
04:21:14.620 --> 04:21:16.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dodoblehin natin ang pondo ng

asr-003548
04:21:16.620 --> 04:21:18.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: DOST, ng Department

asr-003549
04:21:18.620 --> 04:21:20.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: of Science and Technology,

asr-003550
04:21:20.620 --> 04:21:22.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kayang-kaya po natin magamit ang

asr-003551
04:21:22.620 --> 04:21:23.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: aghama at teknolosya.

asr-003552
04:21:23.620 --> 04:21:25.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na pinayaman

asr-003553
04:21:25.620 --> 04:21:27.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mga Pilipino mismo

asr-003554
04:21:27.620 --> 04:21:29.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa pambansang pagunlad.

asr-003555
04:21:31.620 --> 04:21:33.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hindi po dapat maging

asr-003556
04:21:33.620 --> 04:21:35.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sangkot ang Pilipinas sa mga programang

asr-003557
04:21:35.620 --> 04:21:37.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagsisilbi para lamang sa interes ng

asr-003558
04:21:37.620 --> 04:21:39.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: dayuhang kapangyarihan tulad ng Pakasilika.

asr-003559
04:21:39.620 --> 04:21:41.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Habang nanganib ang lupa

asr-003560
04:21:41.620 --> 04:21:43.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at kabuhayan ng mga aita at magsasaka.

asr-003561
04:21:43.620 --> 04:21:45.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang siguridad natin sa

asr-003562
04:21:45.620 --> 04:21:47.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagkain, ang kalikasan, at ang

asr-003563
04:21:47.620 --> 04:21:49.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pambansang soberanya.

asr-003564
04:21:49.620 --> 04:21:51.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ang panawagan ko po ngayon ay

asr-003565
04:21:51.620 --> 04:21:53.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maipagtanggol ang lupa ng

asr-003566
04:21:53.620 --> 04:21:55.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga aita at magsasaka.

asr-003567
04:21:55.620 --> 04:21:57.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Huwag po natin pabayaan

asr-003568
04:21:57.620 --> 04:21:59.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang lupa ng katutubo at

asr-003569
04:21:59.620 --> 04:22:01.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lupa ng magsasaka.

asr-003570
04:22:01.620 --> 04:22:03.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Protectahan natin ang ating kalikasan at

asr-003571
04:22:03.620 --> 04:22:05.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: siguridad sa pagkain.

asr-003572
04:22:05.620 --> 04:22:07.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Food self-sufficiency, pangarap natin yan

asr-003573
04:22:07.620 --> 04:22:09.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa bansang Pilipinas. Kaya po

asr-003574
04:22:09.620 --> 04:22:11.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang panawagan po ng mga kababaihan,

asr-003575
04:22:11.620 --> 04:22:13.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: buong tapang,

asr-003576
04:22:13.620 --> 04:22:15.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: go to Pakasilika,

asr-003577
04:22:15.620 --> 04:22:17.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Philippines is not for sale.

asr-003578
04:22:17.620 --> 04:22:19.620
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

asr-003579
04:22:21.620 --> 04:22:23.620
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-003580
04:22:27.620 --> 04:22:29.620
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a motion to recognize

asr-003581
04:22:29.620 --> 04:22:31.620
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Honorable Tinio.

asr-003582
04:22:31.620 --> 04:22:33.620
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Please proceed with your interpellation.

asr-003583
04:22:51.620 --> 04:22:57.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

asr-003584
04:22:57.620 --> 04:22:59.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course,

asr-003585
04:22:59.620 --> 04:23:01.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilang mga katanungan sa

asr-003586
04:23:01.620 --> 04:23:03.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: BCDA.

asr-003587
04:23:03.620 --> 04:23:05.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course,

asr-003588
04:23:05.620 --> 04:23:07.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may kinalaman nito sa Pakasilika.

asr-003589
04:23:07.620 --> 04:23:09.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-003590
04:23:09.620 --> 04:23:11.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, una,

asr-003591
04:23:11.620 --> 04:23:13.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: throughout the interpolation, narinig po

asr-003592
04:23:13.620 --> 04:23:15.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: natin ang ginagamit na term

asr-003593
04:23:15.620 --> 04:23:17.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Clark,

asr-003594
04:23:17.620 --> 04:23:19.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Freeport, and

asr-003595
04:23:19.620 --> 04:23:21.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Economic Zone.

asr-003596
04:23:21.620 --> 04:23:23.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon. So,

asr-003597
04:23:23.620 --> 04:23:25.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede po bang linawin lang natin

asr-003598
04:23:25.620 --> 04:23:27.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung tinutukoy

asr-003599
04:23:27.620 --> 04:23:29.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung term na yan?

asr-003600
04:23:29.620 --> 04:23:31.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-003601
04:23:31.620 --> 04:23:33.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung,

asr-003602
04:23:33.620 --> 04:23:35.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as I understand it,

asr-003603
04:23:35.620 --> 04:23:37.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba yung Freeport area dun sa

asr-003604
04:23:37.620 --> 04:23:39.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Economic Zone area. Tama po ba?

asr-003605
04:23:45.620 --> 04:23:47.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paki-explain lang po.

asr-003606
04:24:06.120 --> 04:24:08.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, tumatakbo yung oras ha.

asr-003607
04:24:08.780 --> 04:24:10.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Note lang po.

asr-003608
04:24:10.300 --> 04:24:11.300
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker.

asr-003609
04:24:11.300 --> 04:24:13.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. Opo.

asr-003610
04:24:13.500 --> 04:24:14.500
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Dear colleague,

asr-003611
04:24:14.500 --> 04:24:16.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung pong Clark Freeport

asr-003612
04:24:16.100 --> 04:24:19.500
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Zone, yun po yung

asr-003613
04:24:19.500 --> 04:24:21.000
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 4,400 hectares.

asr-003614
04:24:21.000 --> 04:24:23.000
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kung nasaan po yung

asr-003621
04:24:23.000 --> 04:24:26.500
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kung nasaan po yung Clark International Airport.

asr-003622
04:24:26.500 --> 04:24:27.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes.

asr-003623
04:24:27.100 --> 04:24:29.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mainly nasa Pampanga po yan, di ba?

asr-003624
04:24:29.300 --> 04:24:31.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Opo. Yes.

asr-003625
04:24:31.100 --> 04:24:33.600
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-003626
04:24:33.620 --> 04:24:35.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: And yung pong Clark Advanced

asr-003627
04:24:35.620 --> 04:24:37.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Manufacturing Park,

asr-003628
04:24:37.620 --> 04:24:39.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po ay nasa loob ng

asr-003629
04:24:39.620 --> 04:24:41.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Special Economic Zone.

asr-003630
04:24:41.620 --> 04:24:42.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003630-split-2
04:24:42.440 --> 04:24:43.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa New Clark City.

asr-003631
04:24:43.620 --> 04:24:45.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: New Clark City, which is in

asr-003632
04:24:45.120 --> 04:24:47.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tarlac.

asr-003633
04:24:47.500 --> 04:24:49.060
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-003633-split-2
04:24:49.060 --> 04:24:49.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003634
04:24:49.620 --> 04:24:51.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, dito sa

asr-003635
04:24:51.620 --> 04:24:53.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: PacSilica,

asr-003636
04:24:53.620 --> 04:24:55.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ba yung ma-involve dito?

asr-003637
04:24:55.620 --> 04:24:57.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung po bang

asr-003638
04:24:57.620 --> 04:24:59.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Economic Zone area sa Tarlac?

asr-003639
04:24:59.620 --> 04:25:01.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O yung sa

asr-003640
04:25:01.620 --> 04:25:03.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Freeport, sa Pampanga, o pareho?

asr-003641
04:25:03.620 --> 04:25:05.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para lang malinaw.

asr-003642
04:25:05.620 --> 04:25:07.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yung

asr-003643
04:25:07.620 --> 04:25:09.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: PacSilica po as a

asr-003644
04:25:09.620 --> 04:25:11.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: non-binding declaration

asr-003645
04:25:11.620 --> 04:25:13.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: na sumali po ang Pilipinas,

asr-003646
04:25:13.620 --> 04:25:15.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po yung

asr-003647
04:25:15.620 --> 04:25:17.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: buong

asr-003648
04:25:17.620 --> 04:25:18.930
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: global chain.

asr-003648-split-2
04:25:18.930 --> 04:25:19.110
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes.

asr-003648-split-3
04:25:19.110 --> 04:25:19.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So,

asr-003649
04:25:19.620 --> 04:25:21.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ibig sabihin, sa buong global chain,

asr-003650
04:25:21.620 --> 04:25:23.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: meron po sa manufacturing

asr-003651
04:25:23.620 --> 04:25:25.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: or sa ating industrial park,

asr-003652
04:25:25.620 --> 04:25:27.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at siyempre, meron din pong

asr-003653
04:25:27.620 --> 04:25:29.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kinalaman yung logistics

asr-003654
04:25:29.620 --> 04:25:31.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kasama po yung mga

asr-003655
04:25:31.620 --> 04:25:33.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: daan at ito pong airport.

asr-003656
04:25:33.620 --> 04:25:35.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ibig sabihin,

asr-003657
04:25:35.620 --> 04:25:37.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kasama po siya sa ecosystem

asr-003658
04:25:37.620 --> 04:25:38.870
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng...

asr-003658-split-2
04:25:38.870 --> 04:25:39.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003659
04:25:39.620 --> 04:25:41.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kaugnay nun,

asr-003660
04:25:41.620 --> 04:25:43.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron yung

asr-003661
04:25:43.620 --> 04:25:45.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano nga ito,

asr-003662
04:25:45.620 --> 04:25:47.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Luzon

asr-003663
04:25:47.620 --> 04:25:49.090
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Economic Corridor. Madam Speaker.

asr-003664
04:25:49.090 --> 04:25:49.940
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tama po.

asr-003665
04:25:49.940 --> 04:25:53.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Pero yung specific

asr-003666
04:25:53.620 --> 04:25:55.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: project

asr-003667
04:25:55.620 --> 04:25:57.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na

asr-003668
04:25:57.620 --> 04:25:59.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung immediate

asr-003669
04:25:59.620 --> 04:26:01.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na project na

asr-003670
04:26:01.620 --> 04:26:03.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in-offer

asr-003671
04:26:03.620 --> 04:26:05.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng PCDA

asr-003672
04:26:05.620 --> 04:26:07.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa PacSilica,

asr-003673
04:26:07.620 --> 04:26:09.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasan po yun?

asr-003674
04:26:09.060 --> 04:26:10.080
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa New Clark City po.

asr-003674-split-2
04:26:10.080 --> 04:26:11.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa New Clark City.

asr-003675
04:26:11.620 --> 04:26:13.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, potentially, pwedeng ma-involve din

asr-003676
04:26:13.620 --> 04:26:15.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung airport,

asr-003677
04:26:15.620 --> 04:26:17.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero yung kongkretong pinag-uusapan

asr-003678
04:26:17.620 --> 04:26:19.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon, yung

asr-003679
04:26:19.620 --> 04:26:21.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in U.S.

asr-003680
04:26:21.620 --> 04:26:23.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: statements, 4,000 acres daw

asr-003681
04:26:23.620 --> 04:26:25.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na lupa, pero

asr-003682
04:26:25.620 --> 04:26:27.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa atin, ilan yun?

asr-003683
04:26:27.620 --> 04:26:29.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,600.

asr-003684
04:26:29.620 --> 04:26:31.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,600.

asr-003685
04:26:31.620 --> 04:26:33.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 1,620 hectares.

asr-003686
04:26:33.620 --> 04:26:35.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 620 hectares. Yun po yung nasa

asr-003687
04:26:35.620 --> 04:26:37.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: New Clark City. Tama po. Okay.

asr-003688
04:26:37.620 --> 04:26:39.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, magkalinawan po tayo roon.

asr-003689
04:26:39.620 --> 04:26:41.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Tapos,

asr-003690
04:26:41.620 --> 04:26:43.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilang mga latest

asr-003691
04:26:43.620 --> 04:26:45.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: developments batay po sa mga news

asr-003692
04:26:45.620 --> 04:26:47.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reports. Ipapakonfirm ko

asr-003693
04:26:47.620 --> 04:26:49.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lang po sa inyo.

asr-003694
04:26:49.620 --> 04:26:51.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung PCDA and

asr-003695
04:26:51.620 --> 04:26:53.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority

asr-003696
04:26:53.620 --> 04:26:55.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: have formalized a partnership

asr-003697
04:26:55.620 --> 04:26:57.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to position the port of Subic Bay

asr-003698
04:26:57.620 --> 04:26:59.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as the preferred maritime

asr-003699
04:26:59.620 --> 04:27:01.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gateway for the PacSilica initiative.

asr-003700
04:27:01.620 --> 04:27:03.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Supporting its

asr-003701
04:27:03.620 --> 04:27:05.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: logistics, cargo handling, import and

asr-003702
04:27:05.620 --> 04:27:07.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: export operations, data

asr-003703
04:27:07.620 --> 04:27:09.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: integration, and other critical

asr-003704
04:27:09.620 --> 04:27:11.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: supply chain requirements.

asr-003705
04:27:11.620 --> 04:27:13.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun?

asr-003706
04:27:13.620 --> 04:27:15.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron talaga kayong formal

asr-003707
04:27:15.620 --> 04:27:17.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: partnership with

asr-003708
04:27:17.620 --> 04:27:19.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: SBMA

asr-003709
04:27:19.620 --> 04:27:21.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: designating port of

asr-003710
04:27:21.620 --> 04:27:23.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Subic Bay as preferred maritime

asr-003711
04:27:23.620 --> 04:27:25.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gateway for the PacSilica

asr-003712
04:27:25.620 --> 04:27:27.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: initiative. Correct?

asr-003713
04:27:29.620 --> 04:27:31.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker.

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04:27:31.620 --> 04:27:33.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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04:27:33.620 --> 04:27:35.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano po ba yan?

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04:27:35.620 --> 04:27:37.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Merong kasulatan? Paano yan? May

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04:27:37.620 --> 04:27:39.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kontrata? Ano yung sabihin nun?

asr-003718
04:27:39.620 --> 04:27:41.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Or nagkasundo lang kayo?

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04:27:41.620 --> 04:27:43.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Meron pong

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04:27:43.620 --> 04:27:45.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: MOU, Madam Speaker.

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04:27:45.620 --> 04:27:47.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: MOU? Okay.

asr-003722
04:27:47.620 --> 04:27:49.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that MOU

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04:27:49.620 --> 04:27:51.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: available to the public?

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04:27:59.620 --> 04:28:01.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: We can supply you

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04:28:01.620 --> 04:28:02.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: a copy of that.

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04:28:02.900 --> 04:28:03.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, please.

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04:28:03.620 --> 04:28:05.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa atin po at para sa publiko rin.

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04:28:05.620 --> 04:28:07.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para transparent tayo sa lahat

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04:28:07.620 --> 04:28:09.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga may kinalaman

asr-003729
04:28:09.620 --> 04:28:11.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa PacSilica. So, we would expect

asr-003730
04:28:11.620 --> 04:28:13.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a copy of that MOU.

asr-003731
04:28:13.620 --> 04:28:15.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, again,

asr-003732
04:28:15.620 --> 04:28:17.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: according to reports, the BCDA

asr-003733
04:28:17.620 --> 04:28:19.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is set to sign the

asr-003734
04:28:19.620 --> 04:28:21.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: governance framework for the PacSilica

asr-003735
04:28:21.620 --> 04:28:23.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: industrial hub in Nucleic

asr-003736
04:28:23.620 --> 04:28:25.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: City with a

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04:28:25.620 --> 04:28:27.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: counterpart United States government

asr-003738
04:28:27.620 --> 04:28:29.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: agency. Tama po ba

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04:28:29.620 --> 04:28:31.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun?

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04:28:31.620 --> 04:28:33.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-003741
04:28:33.620 --> 04:28:35.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Malapit na po bang pirmahan? O napirmahan

asr-003742
04:28:35.620 --> 04:28:37.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na po ba yung

asr-003743
04:28:37.620 --> 04:28:39.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: governance framework

asr-003744
04:28:39.620 --> 04:28:41.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for PacSilica?

asr-003745
04:28:41.620 --> 04:28:43.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pa pong napipirmahan, Madam Speaker.

asr-003746
04:28:43.620 --> 04:28:45.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero tama yung report

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04:28:45.620 --> 04:28:47.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na malapit ng

asr-003748
04:28:47.620 --> 04:28:49.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pirmahan?

asr-003749
04:28:49.620 --> 04:28:51.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pinag-aaralan po, Madam Speaker.

asr-003750
04:28:51.620 --> 04:28:53.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinag-aaralan po. Okay.

asr-003751
04:28:53.620 --> 04:28:55.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, hindi pa po tayo mabibigyan ng

asr-003752
04:28:55.620 --> 04:28:57.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kopya nito? O pwede na po?

asr-003753
04:28:57.620 --> 04:28:59.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Wala pa po, Madam Speaker.

asr-003754
04:28:59.620 --> 04:29:01.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa po. Okay. Pero

asr-003755
04:29:01.620 --> 04:29:03.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the moment it is signed, pwede na pong

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04:29:03.620 --> 04:29:05.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mabigay? O maipakita

asr-003757
04:29:05.620 --> 04:29:07.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa publiko?

asr-003758
04:29:07.620 --> 04:29:09.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. We expect that. Ano?

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04:29:09.620 --> 04:29:11.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003760
04:29:11.620 --> 04:29:13.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, ang isa sa mga

asr-003761
04:29:13.620 --> 04:29:15.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: publicly available documents

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04:29:15.620 --> 04:29:17.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay

asr-003763
04:29:17.620 --> 04:29:19.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: noon pa, April.

asr-003764
04:29:19.620 --> 04:29:21.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Way back in April.

asr-003765
04:29:21.620 --> 04:29:23.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sulat

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04:29:23.620 --> 04:29:25.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ni President

asr-003767
04:29:25.620 --> 04:29:27.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and CEO,

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04:29:27.620 --> 04:29:29.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: si ginoong Joshua Bingkang,

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04:29:29.620 --> 04:29:31.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sumulat siya

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04:29:31.620 --> 04:29:33.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa

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04:29:33.620 --> 04:29:35.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sumulat siya

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04:29:35.620 --> 04:29:37.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kay Undersecretary

asr-003773
04:29:37.620 --> 04:29:39.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of State for Economic Affairs of the United States.

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04:29:39.620 --> 04:29:41.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Jacob Helberg.

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04:29:41.620 --> 04:29:43.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nung 9 April

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04:29:43.620 --> 04:29:45.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026,

asr-003777
04:29:45.620 --> 04:29:47.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Proposal for a Paxilica

asr-003778
04:29:47.620 --> 04:29:49.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coordination Office in Clark.

asr-003779
04:29:49.620 --> 04:29:51.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po?

asr-003780
04:29:51.620 --> 04:29:53.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tama po, Madam Speaker.

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04:29:53.620 --> 04:29:55.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003782
04:29:55.620 --> 04:29:57.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos,

asr-003783
04:29:57.620 --> 04:29:59.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron din pong sagot.

asr-003784
04:30:00.000 --> 04:30:15.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Si Jacob Helberg, the Undersecretary of the United States, Department of State, acknowledging and accepting the offer.

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04:30:16.440 --> 04:30:19.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. Dated April 16 naman ito. Tama po.

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04:30:26.420 --> 04:30:28.760
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, tama po.

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04:30:28.760 --> 04:30:33.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po. Or we will return to these documents.

asr-003788
04:30:33.800 --> 04:30:38.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero meron po akong mga ilang visuals. I hope they're ready.

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04:30:38.780 --> 04:30:47.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una, nung inanunsyo yung Paxilica Initiative in the first quarter of this year, may announcement po yung State Department

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04:30:47.800 --> 04:30:55.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and it is reproduced or published in the U.S. Embassy Manila website.

asr-003791
04:30:55.940 --> 04:30:58.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So yung isa po, kung makikita natin, available.

asr-003792
04:30:58.760 --> 04:30:59.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Available na po ba?

asr-003793
04:31:02.900 --> 04:31:04.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Available na po ba yung visual?

asr-003794
04:31:08.200 --> 04:31:10.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Andiyan na po? O wala.

asr-003795
04:31:10.780 --> 04:31:16.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, meron pong pinablish sa website ng U.S. Embassy in the Philippines,

asr-003796
04:31:16.620 --> 04:31:28.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the United States and the Philippines launch plans for 4,000-acre economic security zone to shore up supply chains.

asr-003797
04:31:28.060 --> 04:31:33.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: First AI-native industrial acceleration hub under Paxilica.

asr-003798
04:31:34.760 --> 04:31:43.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, this is published by the Office of the U.S. Department of State Spokesperson, April 16, 2026.

asr-003799
04:31:45.840 --> 04:31:47.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa po ba? Para makita lang.

asr-003800
04:31:49.380 --> 04:31:50.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa rin. Okay.

asr-003801
04:31:51.640 --> 04:31:57.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, ang striking po dito yung paggamit ng terminong economic security zone.

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04:31:58.060 --> 04:31:58.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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04:31:58.640 --> 04:32:13.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then, also, part of the media kit na nilabas during this period, April 16 din po, nilabas din ng State Department,

asr-003804
04:32:13.260 --> 04:32:22.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fact sheet, U.S. and Philippines plan the launch of historic 4,000-acre economic security zone to shore up supply chains.

asr-003805
04:32:22.640 --> 04:32:27.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At dito po, sabi, meron.

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04:32:28.060 --> 04:32:34.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron ng economic security zone and structure and plan governance.

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04:32:34.440 --> 04:32:38.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dito po yung naging kontrobersyal na termino, joint governance.

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04:32:39.760 --> 04:32:43.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi po, dito sa economic security zone, merong joint governance.

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04:32:43.820 --> 04:32:56.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The two governments intend to identify appropriate frameworks for the long-term development of the zone that facilitate sovereign alignment and shared upside as it scales.

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04:32:57.940 --> 04:32:57.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-003811
04:32:58.060 --> 04:33:00.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the use of the term joint governance.

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04:33:01.680 --> 04:33:16.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In media reports, sabi, that joint governance included yung U.S. demand na merong diplomatic immunity yung mga personel nila sa zone.

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04:33:17.700 --> 04:33:25.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Subsequently, parang may clarification or denial ang BCDA dito.

asr-003814
04:33:25.260 --> 04:33:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, yan po ang nakapublish.

asr-003815
04:33:28.060 --> 04:33:32.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan po ang pinublish ng U.S. State Department.

asr-003816
04:33:32.660 --> 04:33:39.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, do you confirm these statements made by the U.S. State Department?

asr-003817
04:33:43.380 --> 04:33:51.140
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we cannot confirm what the U.S. State Department is saying.

asr-003818
04:33:51.860 --> 04:33:54.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You cannot confirm. Pero nilabas po nila.

asr-003819
04:33:54.380 --> 04:33:54.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-003820
04:33:55.940 --> 04:33:57.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You cannot confirm.

asr-003821
04:33:57.400 --> 04:33:57.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But you have reacted.

asr-003822
04:33:57.940 --> 04:33:58.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You have reacted to it.

asr-003823
04:33:58.620 --> 04:33:59.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po yung reaction nyo doon?

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04:34:03.320 --> 04:34:04.180
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yan lang sila.

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04:34:12.340 --> 04:34:18.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In the meantime, Madam Chair, follow up po lang po yung visual aids natin para mas mapabilis po yung discussion.

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04:34:18.700 --> 04:34:25.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, doon po sa proposal na sulat na pinadala po ng BCDA,

asr-003827
04:34:25.900 --> 04:34:27.660
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: very clear po.

asr-003828
04:34:27.940 --> 04:34:35.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, na nilagay, sinayit po yung legal basis para sa sulat na ito.

asr-003829
04:34:35.480 --> 04:34:45.380
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: At sinasabi po na, if I may read, Madam Speaker, the terms herein are made consistent with the laws of the Republic of the Philippines,

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04:34:45.380 --> 04:34:57.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: including RA number 7916, RA number 7277, and such other Philippine laws and rules that govern the use of public lands.

asr-003834
04:34:58.280 --> 04:35:00.740
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: for purposes of international cooperation.

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04:35:00.740 --> 04:35:01.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003836
04:35:01.040 --> 04:35:01.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Claro po.

asr-003837
04:35:01.740 --> 04:35:03.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I have the same letter.

asr-003838
04:35:03.200 --> 04:35:08.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And actually, yan nga po yung gusto natin ipakita para mapabilis yung discussion.

asr-003839
04:35:08.720 --> 04:35:10.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let's now go to that letter then.

asr-003840
04:35:10.940 --> 04:35:15.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito po yung proposal for a PAC-Silica Coordination Office in Clark.

asr-003841
04:35:16.360 --> 04:35:16.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-003842
04:35:16.460 --> 04:35:30.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sabi po rito, the BCDA of the Republic of the Philippines presents its proposal to the Department of State of the United States of America.

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04:35:30.820 --> 04:35:32.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayun, finally, umabot na.

asr-003844
04:35:32.960 --> 04:35:33.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003845
04:35:34.000 --> 04:35:37.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, pwede lang ipakita yung Economic Security Zone kanina.

asr-003846
04:35:38.400 --> 04:35:41.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung binabanggit ko, yung mga statement ng U.S. Embassy.

asr-003847
04:35:46.460 --> 04:35:47.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bagal.

asr-003848
04:35:47.120 --> 04:35:48.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mabagal yung ano natin.

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04:35:49.540 --> 04:35:49.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003850
04:35:50.280 --> 04:36:00.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The point I wanted to make there is, the State Department uses the term Economic Security Zone in their public releases.

asr-003851
04:36:00.660 --> 04:36:00.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-003852
04:36:01.440 --> 04:36:11.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang tanong ko sa Pilipinas, sa gobyerno ng Pilipinas, particular sa BCDA, meron bang ganong animal sa batas ng Republika ng Pilipinas, Economic Security Zone?

asr-003853
04:36:12.180 --> 04:36:12.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po ba?

asr-003854
04:36:13.720 --> 04:36:15.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Under our laws?

asr-003855
04:36:16.460 --> 04:36:36.580
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, wala pong kaming alam na batas na meron pong Economic Security Zone.

asr-003856
04:36:36.580 --> 04:36:38.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, wala naman talaga.

asr-003857
04:36:38.700 --> 04:36:39.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malinaw po.

asr-003858
04:36:39.720 --> 04:36:43.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala talagang, there's no such thing as an Economic Security Zone.

asr-003859
04:36:44.080 --> 04:36:46.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No such thing as joint governance.

asr-003860
04:36:46.460 --> 04:36:53.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There's no such thing as joint governance under our laws, implying na parang may, maaaring may dalawang batas na iiral.

asr-003861
04:36:53.860 --> 04:37:03.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po, yung, ang point lang ay sa official releases or statements to the public ng U.S. side, ganyan po ang kanila.

asr-003862
04:37:04.600 --> 04:37:11.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na ang itatatag under Paxilica dito sa Pilipinas is something called an Economic Security Zone.

asr-003863
04:37:11.600 --> 04:37:14.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, una pa lang, mukhang may problema na eh.

asr-003864
04:37:14.720 --> 04:37:14.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-003865
04:37:16.460 --> 04:37:18.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi na nagsasalubog doon.

asr-003866
04:37:18.820 --> 04:37:20.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo, magkakaroon ng pirmahan.

asr-003867
04:37:21.380 --> 04:37:24.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Eh, malinaw, may inam po, ilinaw natin.

asr-003868
04:37:25.280 --> 04:37:34.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala ang ganyang animal sa ating batas at hindi dapat pumayag ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas dyan.

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04:37:34.380 --> 04:37:35.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003870
04:37:35.940 --> 04:37:43.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ngayon, punta na tayo doon sa proposal for a Paxilica Coordination Office in Clark.

asr-003871
04:37:43.700 --> 04:37:46.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the BCDA presents its proposal.

asr-003872
04:37:46.460 --> 04:37:55.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Proposal to the Department of State of the United States of America on the establishment of a Paxilica Coordination Office

asr-003873
04:37:55.880 --> 04:38:04.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in an area of approximately 4,000 acres strategically located in the Luzon Economic Corridor.

asr-003874
04:38:05.380 --> 04:38:08.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang offer nyo po, magtatayo ng Paxilica Coordination Office.

asr-003875
04:38:09.660 --> 04:38:10.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po?

asr-003876
04:38:10.940 --> 04:38:11.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, sabi dito,

asr-003877
04:38:11.960 --> 04:38:12.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so,

asr-003878
04:38:12.080 --> 04:38:16.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ang gagawin?

asr-003879
04:38:16.460 --> 04:38:19.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano itong Paxilica Coordination Office?

asr-003880
04:38:20.620 --> 04:38:28.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It will serve as a principal bilateral facility to undertake the following functions.

asr-003881
04:38:29.800 --> 04:38:36.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: One, coordination of critical mineral supply chain security initiatives between the two nations.

asr-003882
04:38:37.300 --> 04:38:41.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Facilitation of joint strategic industrial planning and infrastructure development

asr-003883
04:38:41.840 --> 04:38:46.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within the Luzon Economic Corridor.

asr-003884
04:38:46.460 --> 04:38:53.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Number four, coordination of allied investment and private capital mobilization for economic security projects.

asr-003885
04:38:53.840 --> 04:39:01.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Number four, support for workforce development, technology transfer, and capacity building activities

asr-003886
04:39:01.300 --> 04:39:06.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: aligned with bilateral economic security objectives and five such other activities

asr-003887
04:39:06.480 --> 04:39:13.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as the two governments may mutually determine to be consistent with the purposes of the coordination office.

asr-003888
04:39:13.220 --> 04:39:15.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, magtatayo po ng opisina.

asr-003889
04:39:15.360 --> 04:39:16.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po?

asr-003890
04:39:17.900 --> 04:39:20.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, ito may mga functions nga,

asr-003891
04:39:20.780 --> 04:39:22.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: koordinative functions.

asr-003892
04:39:22.860 --> 04:39:26.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pwede po bang mag-elaborate lang dahil hindi natin makuha

asr-003893
04:39:26.580 --> 04:39:30.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: based on a reading of the letter.

asr-003894
04:39:35.360 --> 04:39:38.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sino po ang katao?

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04:39:38.140 --> 04:39:41.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil coordination, parang merong Philippine

asr-003896
04:39:41.820 --> 04:39:45.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na representative,

asr-003897
04:39:45.360 --> 04:39:47.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos may U.S.

asr-003898
04:39:47.300 --> 04:39:47.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po ba?

asr-003899
04:39:49.220 --> 04:39:49.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-003900
04:39:51.940 --> 04:39:54.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung coordination office, bilateral eh.

asr-003901
04:40:08.780 --> 04:40:11.400
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-003902
04:40:11.400 --> 04:40:14.180
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Noong pong earlier,

asr-003903
04:40:15.360 --> 04:40:17.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: time po na binraft po ito,

asr-003904
04:40:18.220 --> 04:40:20.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yun lang po yung ginamit na terminology,

asr-003905
04:40:21.540 --> 04:40:24.000
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung Paxilica Coordination Office.

asr-003906
04:40:24.260 --> 04:40:27.180
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: But, in a fast forward today,

asr-003907
04:40:27.820 --> 04:40:31.340
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po yung Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park.

asr-003908
04:40:32.060 --> 04:40:33.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Clark Advanced Manufacturing Park.

asr-003909
04:40:33.260 --> 04:40:35.220
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po yung 4,000 acres or 1,600 hectares.

asr-003910
04:40:35.220 --> 04:40:39.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun na na po. Actually, yun ang pinupunto ko batay dito.

asr-003911
04:40:39.020 --> 04:40:41.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi dito, sinasabi opisina.

asr-003912
04:40:42.140 --> 04:40:43.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Office, coordination office.

asr-003913
04:40:44.360 --> 04:40:44.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And yet,

asr-003914
04:40:45.360 --> 04:40:46.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang halo-halo,

asr-003915
04:40:46.880 --> 04:40:50.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil yung Paxilica Coordination Office

asr-003916
04:40:50.740 --> 04:40:53.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in an area of approximately 4,000 acres.

asr-003917
04:40:54.260 --> 04:40:54.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang,

asr-003918
04:40:56.120 --> 04:40:56.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung,

asr-003919
04:40:56.620 --> 04:40:59.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano naman magkakaroon ng opisina na may 4,000 acres?

asr-003920
04:41:00.600 --> 04:41:02.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos yung functions ng opisina,

asr-003921
04:41:03.540 --> 04:41:04.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: parang ano lang,

asr-003922
04:41:04.820 --> 04:41:06.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isang coordinating body.

asr-003923
04:41:07.260 --> 04:41:07.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-003924
04:41:09.460 --> 04:41:09.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yet,

asr-003925
04:41:09.820 --> 04:41:12.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the second part,

asr-003926
04:41:12.580 --> 04:41:14.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: terms, identification of the site,

asr-003927
04:41:14.720 --> 04:41:15.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and other,

asr-003928
04:41:15.120 --> 04:41:16.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or lease terms,

asr-003929
04:41:16.120 --> 04:41:23.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the maps showing the proposed site within New Clark City in the Luzon Economic Corridor are attached.

asr-003930
04:41:25.560 --> 04:41:28.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, ito na po yung 4,000 acres.

asr-003931
04:41:29.040 --> 04:41:31.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mukhang sa konsepto pa lang ay pinaghalo na

asr-003932
04:41:31.860 --> 04:41:37.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung coordination office at saka yung economic zone, kumbaga,

asr-003933
04:41:37.880 --> 04:41:42.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o yung tinatawag niyong Advanced Manufacturing Park.

asr-003934
04:41:42.960 --> 04:41:43.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Park.

asr-003935
04:41:43.200 --> 04:41:43.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker.

asr-003936
04:41:43.820 --> 04:41:44.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003937
04:41:45.120 --> 04:41:47.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yun po.

asr-003938
04:41:47.760 --> 04:41:49.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una, question mark natin dito.

asr-003939
04:41:49.840 --> 04:41:50.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba talaga?

asr-003940
04:41:50.580 --> 04:41:51.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Office or park?

asr-003941
04:41:52.300 --> 04:41:52.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003942
04:41:52.720 --> 04:41:53.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ngayon sinasabi niyo park.

asr-003943
04:41:54.120 --> 04:41:54.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words,

asr-003944
04:41:54.780 --> 04:41:58.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there is a subsequent amended proposal.

asr-003945
04:41:59.440 --> 04:41:59.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po ba?

asr-003946
04:42:03.080 --> 04:42:04.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Again, Madam Speaker,

asr-003947
04:42:04.480 --> 04:42:05.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-003948
04:42:05.560 --> 04:42:08.040
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ito po ay preliminary proposal.

asr-003949
04:42:08.600 --> 04:42:10.040
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, ito po ay magiging,

asr-003950
04:42:10.080 --> 04:42:12.160
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: magkakaroon ng discussion.

asr-003951
04:42:13.960 --> 04:42:14.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003952
04:42:14.480 --> 04:42:15.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And yet,

asr-003953
04:42:15.120 --> 04:42:20.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Helberg of the United States replied and said,

asr-003954
04:42:21.640 --> 04:42:27.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: thank you for your letter dated April 9, 2026,

asr-003955
04:42:27.880 --> 04:42:32.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: proposing an in-kind contribution of approximately 4,000 acres

asr-003956
04:42:32.320 --> 04:42:35.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in New Clark City within the Luzon Economic Corridor,

asr-003957
04:42:36.300 --> 04:42:38.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which could be used for a Paxilica coordination office.

asr-003958
04:42:39.420 --> 04:42:40.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tinanggap ng US.

asr-003959
04:42:41.260 --> 04:42:43.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coordination office ang tinanggap niya.

asr-003960
04:42:43.080 --> 04:42:43.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003961
04:42:43.240 --> 04:42:45.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003962
04:42:45.900 --> 04:42:46.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-003963
04:42:47.540 --> 04:42:49.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang sinasabi niyo po,

asr-003964
04:42:49.660 --> 04:42:51.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pang amended proposal

asr-003965
04:42:51.680 --> 04:42:55.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para dito sa sinasabi niyong advanced manufacturing hub.

asr-003966
04:42:55.640 --> 04:42:56.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po, Madam Speaker.

asr-003967
04:42:56.880 --> 04:42:59.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O may problema na sa proposal pa lang.

asr-003968
04:42:59.140 --> 04:42:59.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba siya?

asr-003969
04:42:59.600 --> 04:43:00.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O piscina?

asr-003970
04:43:00.420 --> 04:43:02.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O economic hub?

asr-003971
04:43:03.560 --> 04:43:04.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That matters

asr-003972
04:43:04.400 --> 04:43:05.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: because

asr-003973
04:43:05.760 --> 04:43:08.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the loss,

asr-003974
04:43:08.760 --> 04:43:09.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the existing loss.

asr-003975
04:43:09.960 --> 04:43:10.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-003976
04:43:10.160 --> 04:43:11.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And how they will be applied.

asr-003977
04:43:12.360 --> 04:43:12.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003978
04:43:13.240 --> 04:43:13.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon,

asr-003979
04:43:14.540 --> 04:43:17.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito sa offer ng BCDA,

asr-003980
04:43:18.160 --> 04:43:19.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron pong terms,

asr-003981
04:43:19.180 --> 04:43:19.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lease period.

asr-003982
04:43:20.940 --> 04:43:21.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-003983
04:43:22.200 --> 04:43:22.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi dito,

asr-003984
04:43:23.020 --> 04:43:26.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang offer ng Pilipinas as in-kind contribution of the Philippines,

asr-003985
04:43:26.540 --> 04:43:28.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung ambag ng Pilipinas sa Paxilica,

asr-003986
04:43:30.340 --> 04:43:31.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: two-year grace period,

asr-003987
04:43:32.940 --> 04:43:34.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig sabihin libre.

asr-003988
04:43:35.020 --> 04:43:36.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang renta, walang upa, kumbaga.

asr-003989
04:43:37.200 --> 04:43:37.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po?

asr-003990
04:43:38.300 --> 04:43:39.560
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tama po, Madam Speaker.

asr-003991
04:43:39.780 --> 04:43:39.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-003992
04:43:39.800 --> 04:43:40.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos,

asr-003993
04:43:41.360 --> 04:43:43.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: year three,

asr-003994
04:43:43.240 --> 04:43:44.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: until end of term,

asr-003995
04:43:44.800 --> 04:43:45.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to be discussed.

asr-003996
04:43:46.400 --> 04:43:47.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pag-usapan na lang

asr-003997
04:43:47.400 --> 04:43:49.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: after two years.

asr-003998
04:43:49.880 --> 04:43:50.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker.

asr-003999
04:43:50.700 --> 04:43:52.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nasa ilalim po yan ng section

asr-004000
04:43:52.400 --> 04:43:54.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: A called lease period.

asr-004001
04:43:55.540 --> 04:43:55.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However,

asr-004002
04:43:57.420 --> 04:43:57.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tapos sunod,

asr-004003
04:43:58.000 --> 04:43:59.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renewal and reversion.

asr-004004
04:43:59.940 --> 04:44:01.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, wala namang binabanggit

asr-004005
04:44:01.200 --> 04:44:02.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: about the actual lease period.

asr-004006
04:44:02.800 --> 04:44:03.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gano'ng katagal po yung

asr-004007
04:44:03.960 --> 04:44:05.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magiging lease?

asr-004008
04:44:06.780 --> 04:44:07.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pong nakalagay dito?

asr-004009
04:44:08.640 --> 04:44:10.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala pa po, Madam Speaker.

asr-004010
04:44:10.080 --> 04:44:10.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004011
04:44:10.280 --> 04:44:11.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gano'ng katagal nga ba

asr-004012
04:44:11.740 --> 04:44:13.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang magiging lease period?

asr-004013
04:44:13.240 --> 04:44:15.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: It will depend po doon sa

asr-004014
04:44:15.700 --> 04:44:16.760
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: mapag-uusapan po

asr-004015
04:44:16.760 --> 04:44:16.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at mapag-finalize po.

asr-004016
04:44:16.920 --> 04:44:18.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Depends sa mapag-uusapan.

asr-004017
04:44:20.160 --> 04:44:21.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Minimum two years,

asr-004018
04:44:21.480 --> 04:44:22.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun ang in-offer nyo.

asr-004019
04:44:23.260 --> 04:44:24.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, pwedeng

asr-004020
04:44:24.340 --> 04:44:27.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a third year,

asr-004021
04:44:27.320 --> 04:44:29.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: three years onwards,

asr-004022
04:44:30.000 --> 04:44:31.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero pag-uusapan pa.

asr-004023
04:44:31.720 --> 04:44:32.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Under our laws,

asr-004024
04:44:33.140 --> 04:44:34.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hanggang gano'ng katagal po

asr-004025
04:44:34.260 --> 04:44:35.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pwede ang lease,

asr-004026
04:44:35.160 --> 04:44:35.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maximum?

asr-004027
04:44:36.700 --> 04:44:38.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Sa bago po nating batas,

asr-004028
04:44:38.200 --> 04:44:38.980
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: 99 years.

asr-004029
04:44:38.980 --> 04:44:40.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 99 years.

asr-004030
04:44:40.160 --> 04:44:41.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwedeng 99 years.

asr-004031
04:44:41.400 --> 04:44:41.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004032
04:44:42.540 --> 04:44:42.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004033
04:44:43.240 --> 04:44:44.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, wala pang masabi.

asr-004034
04:44:44.440 --> 04:44:45.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words,

asr-004035
04:44:45.200 --> 04:44:46.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit wala pang masabi?

asr-004036
04:44:47.180 --> 04:44:48.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Posible ba na after two years,

asr-004037
04:44:48.900 --> 04:44:50.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: di natin alam kung nandyan pa

asr-004038
04:44:50.140 --> 04:44:51.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Trump administration?

asr-004039
04:44:51.980 --> 04:44:52.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Eh, definitely,

asr-004040
04:44:52.560 --> 04:44:55.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala na ang Trump administration.

asr-004041
04:44:55.220 --> 04:44:56.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Last term na ni Trump.

asr-004042
04:44:57.220 --> 04:44:58.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba pwede rin na

asr-004043
04:44:58.940 --> 04:44:59.958
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pag may bagong...

asr-004044
04:44:59.958 --> 04:45:02.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Presidente ng U.S., baka hindi na ituloy ito.

asr-004045
04:45:03.500 --> 04:45:04.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba posible yun?

asr-004046
04:45:06.060 --> 04:45:07.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, kaya po,

asr-004047
04:45:08.380 --> 04:45:10.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: two years grace period.

asr-004048
04:45:10.460 --> 04:45:10.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ayun.

asr-004049
04:45:11.720 --> 04:45:13.360
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Tapos, upon discussion,

asr-004050
04:45:13.600 --> 04:45:16.760
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kung ilan po yung years na mapag-uusapan,

asr-004051
04:45:17.300 --> 04:45:20.460
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at ano po yung magiging lease rate year three onward.

asr-004052
04:45:20.620 --> 04:45:23.580
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, again, mahila po mag-speculate

asr-004053
04:45:23.580 --> 04:45:27.140
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: kasi po wala pa po tayong final agreement.

asr-004054
04:45:27.600 --> 04:45:29.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, yun po malinaw ang offer.

asr-004055
04:45:29.800 --> 04:45:32.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ang sabi po dito ni Helberg,

asr-004056
04:45:32.380 --> 04:45:33.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung Amerikano,

asr-004057
04:45:34.420 --> 04:45:34.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi niya,

asr-004058
04:45:35.520 --> 04:45:39.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the United States welcomes this generous offer

asr-004059
04:45:39.020 --> 04:45:43.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and accepts the proposed two-year rent-free lease

asr-004060
04:45:43.360 --> 04:45:45.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as in-kind confirmation

asr-004061
04:45:45.140 --> 04:45:47.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the government of the Philippines

asr-004062
04:45:47.480 --> 04:45:51.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: subject to confirmation of the precise location and boundaries

asr-004063
04:45:51.300 --> 04:45:54.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and conclusion of an appropriate lease agreement

asr-004064
04:45:54.680 --> 04:45:56.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: along the lines proposed in your letter.

asr-004065
04:45:56.700 --> 04:45:58.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tinanggap na ng mga Amerikano,

asr-004066
04:45:58.200 --> 04:45:59.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi, okay, libre.

asr-004067
04:45:59.100 --> 04:46:01.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Payag kami dyan.

asr-004068
04:46:01.380 --> 04:46:02.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dalawang taon.

asr-004069
04:46:02.920 --> 04:46:05.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos, further negotiation.

asr-004070
04:46:06.200 --> 04:46:07.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Malinaw po yun, no?

asr-004071
04:46:07.880 --> 04:46:10.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, dun sa issue, dito po sa letter nyo,

asr-004072
04:46:12.440 --> 04:46:19.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: regarding status and access.

asr-004073
04:46:20.300 --> 04:46:21.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Status and access.

asr-004074
04:46:22.380 --> 04:46:25.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Both governments shall consult

asr-004075
04:46:25.020 --> 04:46:27.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with respect to the status of personnel

asr-004076
04:46:27.360 --> 04:46:28.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: assigned to the coordination of the government.

asr-004077
04:46:28.680 --> 04:46:30.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The coordination office

asr-004078
04:46:30.380 --> 04:46:35.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and arrangements for access and internal security

asr-004079
04:46:35.440 --> 04:46:38.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: applicable to the facility and its personnel

asr-004080
04:46:38.500 --> 04:46:42.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: consistent with the provisions of Republic Act No. 7916,

asr-004081
04:46:42.700 --> 04:46:45.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: otherwise known as the Special Economic Zone Act of 1995

asr-004082
04:46:45.900 --> 04:46:48.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and other relevant laws of the Philippines.

asr-004083
04:46:49.180 --> 04:46:50.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, actually, ang sabi dito,

asr-004084
04:46:50.480 --> 04:46:54.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: status of personnel assigned to the coordination office.

asr-004085
04:46:54.920 --> 04:46:56.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang dating po dito,

asr-004086
04:46:57.380 --> 04:46:58.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: government personnel,

asr-004087
04:46:58.520 --> 04:46:58.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan,

asr-004088
04:46:58.680 --> 04:46:59.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na-assign ng gobyerno nyo.

asr-004089
04:47:00.520 --> 04:47:01.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po.

asr-004090
04:47:02.620 --> 04:47:03.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun yun, eh.

asr-004091
04:47:03.980 --> 04:47:04.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun, nare-reading ko.

asr-004092
04:47:05.780 --> 04:47:06.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in other words,

asr-004093
04:47:06.720 --> 04:47:08.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as conceptualized,

asr-004094
04:47:09.200 --> 04:47:12.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may personnel na-assign ng dalawang panig.

asr-004095
04:47:13.160 --> 04:47:14.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Government of the Philippines

asr-004096
04:47:14.400 --> 04:47:16.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then the government of the US,

asr-004097
04:47:16.880 --> 04:47:18.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you will assign these personnel

asr-004098
04:47:18.060 --> 04:47:19.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as to their status,

asr-004099
04:47:20.500 --> 04:47:21.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung diplomatic status,

asr-004100
04:47:23.140 --> 04:47:25.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: arrangement for access and internal security.

asr-004101
04:47:25.800 --> 04:47:28.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag-uusapan, pero susundin ng batas.

asr-004102
04:47:28.680 --> 04:47:29.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun yun, di ba?

asr-004103
04:47:31.260 --> 04:47:33.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004104
04:47:34.560 --> 04:47:35.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: etong proposal po,

asr-004105
04:47:36.380 --> 04:47:38.960
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: is like a less or lessy agreement.

asr-004106
04:47:39.640 --> 04:47:41.820
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po pinag-uusapan po yung area

asr-004107
04:47:41.820 --> 04:47:45.180
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: which is 1,600 hectares or 4,000 acres

asr-004108
04:47:45.180 --> 04:47:47.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: at meron pong lease payments.

asr-004109
04:47:48.500 --> 04:47:48.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004110
04:47:49.340 --> 04:47:51.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, well, but this proposal

asr-004111
04:47:51.440 --> 04:47:54.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as submitted and officially accepted,

asr-004112
04:47:54.520 --> 04:47:56.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: submitted by Philippine government,

asr-004113
04:47:56.940 --> 04:47:57.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: officially accepted,

asr-004114
04:47:57.820 --> 04:47:58.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba po yung terms.

asr-004115
04:47:58.680 --> 04:48:00.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is not a lease agreement.

asr-004116
04:48:00.740 --> 04:48:02.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang usapan to between two governments,

asr-004117
04:48:03.160 --> 04:48:05.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: about a joint coordination office.

asr-004118
04:48:06.140 --> 04:48:07.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ngayon, sinasabi nyo,

asr-004119
04:48:07.160 --> 04:48:08.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iba na ang usapan.

asr-004120
04:48:09.320 --> 04:48:10.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero binanggit nyo,

asr-004121
04:48:12.060 --> 04:48:13.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: status of personnel consistent

asr-004122
04:48:13.820 --> 04:48:17.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with the provisions of Republic Act No. 7916.

asr-004123
04:48:19.020 --> 04:48:19.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O.

asr-004124
04:48:20.060 --> 04:48:22.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tignan natin ang Republic Act No. 7916.

asr-004125
04:48:23.160 --> 04:48:24.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is, of course, the,

asr-004126
04:48:25.540 --> 04:48:26.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano nga yan,

asr-004127
04:48:26.680 --> 04:48:27.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that is the,

asr-004128
04:48:28.680 --> 04:48:32.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the legal framework

asr-004129
04:48:32.060 --> 04:48:36.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the Special Economic Zone Act of 1995.

asr-004130
04:48:37.140 --> 04:48:37.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Short title.

asr-004131
04:48:37.980 --> 04:48:38.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para maiksina lang.

asr-004132
04:48:38.920 --> 04:48:39.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po.

asr-004133
04:48:40.280 --> 04:48:41.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan ang tinutukoy nyo.

asr-004134
04:48:41.940 --> 04:48:42.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And then,

asr-004135
04:48:42.900 --> 04:48:44.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with regard to status of personnel,

asr-004136
04:48:45.800 --> 04:48:47.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang applicable lang po rin,

asr-004137
04:48:47.380 --> 04:48:48.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: status and access,

asr-004138
04:48:48.600 --> 04:48:50.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang applicable po rito na nakikita ko

asr-004139
04:48:50.540 --> 04:48:52.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is section 10.

asr-004140
04:48:54.060 --> 04:48:54.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Immigration.

asr-004141
04:48:55.820 --> 04:48:56.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-004142
04:48:57.600 --> 04:48:58.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Any investor,

asr-004143
04:48:58.680 --> 04:48:59.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within the Ecozone,

asr-004144
04:48:59.940 --> 04:49:01.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: whose initial investment

asr-004145
04:49:01.280 --> 04:49:04.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall not be less than $150,000,

asr-004146
04:49:06.040 --> 04:49:07.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: his or her spouse,

asr-004147
04:49:07.500 --> 04:49:08.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and dependent children,

asr-004148
04:49:09.140 --> 04:49:10.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under 21 years of age,

asr-004149
04:49:11.360 --> 04:49:14.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall be granted permanent resident status

asr-004150
04:49:14.140 --> 04:49:15.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within the Ecozone.

asr-004151
04:49:17.420 --> 04:49:19.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They shall have freedom of ingress and egress

asr-004152
04:49:19.880 --> 04:49:21.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to and from the Ecozone,

asr-004153
04:49:21.740 --> 04:49:24.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: without any need of special authorization

asr-004154
04:49:24.100 --> 04:49:25.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from the Bureau of Immigration.

asr-004155
04:49:27.560 --> 04:49:28.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The PESA,

asr-004156
04:49:28.680 --> 04:49:30.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall issue working visas,

asr-004157
04:49:30.500 --> 04:49:32.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: renewable every two years,

asr-004158
04:49:32.340 --> 04:49:33.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to foreign executives

asr-004159
04:49:33.460 --> 04:49:35.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and other aliens

asr-004160
04:49:35.340 --> 04:49:37.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: possessing highly technical skills

asr-004161
04:49:37.520 --> 04:49:38.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: which no Filipino

asr-004162
04:49:38.960 --> 04:49:41.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within the Ecozone possesses,

asr-004163
04:49:41.360 --> 04:49:44.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as certified by the Department of Labor and Employment.

asr-004164
04:49:44.940 --> 04:49:45.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The names of aliens

asr-004165
04:49:45.960 --> 04:49:48.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: granted permanent resident status

asr-004166
04:49:48.180 --> 04:49:52.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and working visas by the PESA

asr-004167
04:49:52.080 --> 04:49:54.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall be reported to the Bureau of Immigration

asr-004168
04:49:54.160 --> 04:49:56.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within 30 days after the issue once they're off.

asr-004169
04:49:57.360 --> 04:49:58.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ba ang tinutukoy

asr-004170
04:49:58.540 --> 04:49:59.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na probisyon dito?

asr-004171
04:50:00.440 --> 04:50:01.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nito eh,

asr-004172
04:50:01.400 --> 04:50:02.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: consistent with the provisions

asr-004173
04:50:02.820 --> 04:50:05.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Republic Act No. 7916.

asr-004174
04:50:05.600 --> 04:50:06.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-004175
04:50:06.800 --> 04:50:07.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004176
04:50:07.740 --> 04:50:08.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-004177
04:50:09.400 --> 04:50:10.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in other words,

asr-004178
04:50:10.560 --> 04:50:14.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: permanent resident status

asr-004179
04:50:14.140 --> 04:50:16.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kapag ka-investor,

asr-004180
04:50:16.620 --> 04:50:17.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-invest,

asr-004181
04:50:17.340 --> 04:50:18.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung kapitalista mismo

asr-004182
04:50:18.480 --> 04:50:22.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na nag-invest ng $150,000 or more.

asr-004183
04:50:23.320 --> 04:50:23.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po?

asr-004184
04:50:26.280 --> 04:50:27.740
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-004185
04:50:28.540 --> 04:50:28.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004186
04:50:28.900 --> 04:50:29.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004187
04:50:35.420 --> 04:50:36.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yan po.

asr-004188
04:50:36.980 --> 04:50:38.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero, nalilito na po tayo ngayon,

asr-004189
04:50:38.740 --> 04:50:40.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung Coordination Office.

asr-004190
04:50:43.120 --> 04:50:45.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mukhang kahit po yung BCDA

asr-004191
04:50:45.100 --> 04:50:46.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nalito sa kanilang proposal.

asr-004192
04:50:46.880 --> 04:50:48.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang malinaw

asr-004193
04:50:48.140 --> 04:50:50.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na pinopropose nyo opisina,

asr-004194
04:50:50.460 --> 04:50:51.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero actually,

asr-004195
04:50:51.220 --> 04:50:52.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang concept nyo na ngayon

asr-004196
04:50:52.360 --> 04:50:56.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay Advanced AI Manufacturing Zone,

asr-004197
04:50:57.140 --> 04:50:58.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meaning Ecozone.

asr-004198
04:50:58.540 --> 04:50:58.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004199
04:50:59.420 --> 04:50:59.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004200
04:50:59.800 --> 04:51:00.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pinoint out po natin

asr-004201
04:51:00.840 --> 04:51:01.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa proposal pa lang.

asr-004202
04:51:01.920 --> 04:51:03.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mukhang may problema na.

asr-004203
04:51:03.900 --> 04:51:04.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon,

asr-004204
04:51:04.520 --> 04:51:06.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: palapit na po yung matapos yung oras.

asr-004205
04:51:06.560 --> 04:51:07.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya tatalon ako.

asr-004206
04:51:08.840 --> 04:51:10.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Doon nga po sa issue ng

asr-004207
04:51:10.280 --> 04:51:12.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: indigenous people.

asr-004208
04:51:14.000 --> 04:51:14.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004209
04:51:16.900 --> 04:51:18.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pong sulat.

asr-004210
04:51:18.360 --> 04:51:19.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakiflash na lang.

asr-004211
04:51:19.680 --> 04:51:20.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kanina, actually,

asr-004212
04:51:20.680 --> 04:51:22.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: binasa ko almost yung full text nito

asr-004213
04:51:22.740 --> 04:51:25.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in my interpolation

asr-004214
04:51:25.040 --> 04:51:28.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the NCIS.

asr-004215
04:51:28.540 --> 04:51:30.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is the letter

asr-004216
04:51:30.400 --> 04:51:31.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: coming from

asr-004217
04:51:31.760 --> 04:51:33.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the BCDA.

asr-004218
04:51:34.140 --> 04:51:36.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, meron pong sulat ang BCDA

asr-004219
04:51:36.500 --> 04:51:38.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga residente

asr-004220
04:51:39.300 --> 04:51:40.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng, in this case,

asr-004221
04:51:41.920 --> 04:51:42.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Barangay Santa Lucia

asr-004222
04:51:42.920 --> 04:51:44.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Kapas Tarlac.

asr-004223
04:51:44.800 --> 04:51:45.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang sabi,

asr-004224
04:51:46.500 --> 04:51:48.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tungkol daw po ito sa proyekto

asr-004225
04:51:48.780 --> 04:51:52.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maapektuhan ng proyektong

asr-004226
04:51:52.040 --> 04:51:52.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: New Clark City,

asr-004227
04:51:53.420 --> 04:51:55.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya kayo po ay malugod namin

asr-004228
04:51:55.360 --> 04:51:57.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inaanyayahan na makipag-ugnayan

asr-004229
04:51:57.120 --> 04:51:58.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa aming opisina upang

asr-004230
04:51:58.380 --> 04:51:59.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mapag-usapan

asr-004231
04:51:59.400 --> 04:52:02.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga prosesong pagdadaanan

asr-004232
04:52:02.020 --> 04:52:02.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng proyekto,

asr-004233
04:52:03.400 --> 04:52:05.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama rito ang anumang tulong

asr-004234
04:52:05.240 --> 04:52:08.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na may pagkakaloob ng gobyerno.

asr-004235
04:52:09.500 --> 04:52:09.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004236
04:52:09.600 --> 04:52:10.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang

asr-004237
04:52:10.320 --> 04:52:13.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig po sabihin,

asr-004238
04:52:13.300 --> 04:52:14.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabi ng mga residente rito,

asr-004239
04:52:14.760 --> 04:52:15.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay essentially,

asr-004240
04:52:16.000 --> 04:52:17.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagpapalikas na sa kanila.

asr-004241
04:52:18.000 --> 04:52:19.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung sinasabing tulong

asr-004242
04:52:19.200 --> 04:52:21.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay tulong para

asr-004243
04:52:21.100 --> 04:52:22.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa relocation.

asr-004244
04:52:23.520 --> 04:52:23.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004245
04:52:23.800 --> 04:52:24.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag-alis.

asr-004246
04:52:26.140 --> 04:52:27.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kinukompirmadyo po ba

asr-004247
04:52:27.340 --> 04:52:27.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na

asr-004248
04:52:28.380 --> 04:52:29.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ongoing po

asr-004249
04:52:29.720 --> 04:52:31.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pamimigay ng ganitong mga sulat

asr-004250
04:52:31.800 --> 04:52:33.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at kalakit nung

asr-004251
04:52:33.920 --> 04:52:35.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o kasama nung

asr-004252
04:52:35.240 --> 04:52:36.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagpapaalis

asr-004253
04:52:36.780 --> 04:52:38.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga residente?

asr-004254
04:52:43.680 --> 04:52:44.940
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-004255
04:52:45.100 --> 04:52:46.200
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004256
04:52:46.600 --> 04:52:47.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: etong sulat na to po

asr-004257
04:52:47.880 --> 04:52:49.120
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ay para po sa

asr-004258
04:52:49.120 --> 04:52:51.120
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Master Development Plan

asr-004259
04:52:51.120 --> 04:52:53.620
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng BCDA

asr-004260
04:52:53.620 --> 04:52:55.740
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa New Clark City.

asr-004261
04:52:56.000 --> 04:52:57.140
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: So, ibig sabihin po,

asr-004262
04:52:57.140 --> 04:52:58.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pwede pong,

asr-004263
04:52:59.540 --> 04:53:00.000
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po,

asr-004264
04:53:00.120 --> 04:53:01.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi ko po alam kung kanina ito

asr-004265
04:53:01.440 --> 04:53:02.000
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: naka-address,

asr-004266
04:53:02.140 --> 04:53:04.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: pero pwede pong ito ay para sa daan

asr-004267
04:53:04.280 --> 04:53:06.840
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: o sa ibang bagay

asr-004268
04:53:06.840 --> 04:53:07.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa development po

asr-004269
04:53:07.920 --> 04:53:08.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng Master Plan

asr-004270
04:53:08.900 --> 04:53:10.640
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng buong New Clark City.

asr-004271
04:53:10.640 --> 04:53:12.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, katulad na nabanggit

asr-004272
04:53:12.240 --> 04:53:14.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga iba nating kasamahan,

asr-004273
04:53:15.120 --> 04:53:17.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay malagana po.

asr-004274
04:53:17.440 --> 04:53:18.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Marami po ang pinapadala

asr-004275
04:53:18.640 --> 04:53:19.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng ganyan,

asr-004276
04:53:19.660 --> 04:53:21.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasama po yung mga

asr-004277
04:53:21.020 --> 04:53:23.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasa barangay ng Arangurin,

asr-004278
04:53:23.620 --> 04:53:24.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kutkut,

asr-004279
04:53:24.840 --> 04:53:25.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell,

asr-004280
04:53:26.020 --> 04:53:27.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at ito, Santa Lucia,

asr-004281
04:53:27.140 --> 04:53:29.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi po ba ito ay saklaw din

asr-004282
04:53:29.820 --> 04:53:31.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung proyektong Paksilika

asr-004283
04:53:31.920 --> 04:53:33.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa New Clark City?

asr-004284
04:53:39.000 --> 04:53:39.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ito pong sulat,

asr-004285
04:53:40.460 --> 04:53:42.440
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sorry Madam Speaker,

asr-004286
04:53:42.540 --> 04:53:43.100
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-004287
04:53:43.240 --> 04:53:44.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: itong sulat pong ito,

asr-004288
04:53:44.720 --> 04:53:45.080
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: again,

asr-004289
04:53:45.360 --> 04:53:46.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: is for the

asr-004290
04:53:46.280 --> 04:53:48.420
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Master Plan Development

asr-004291
04:53:48.420 --> 04:53:50.280
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: para po maipaliwanag

asr-004292
04:53:50.280 --> 04:53:52.500
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: dito po sa atin pong mga

asr-004293
04:53:52.500 --> 04:53:53.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sinulatan.

asr-004294
04:53:54.260 --> 04:53:54.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004295
04:53:56.060 --> 04:53:57.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero tama po,

asr-004296
04:53:57.140 --> 04:53:59.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker,

asr-004297
04:54:00.000 --> 04:54:01.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: patapos na po.

asr-004298
04:54:01.400 --> 04:54:01.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo.

asr-004299
04:54:04.360 --> 04:54:06.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba na yung mga barangay na ito

asr-004300
04:54:06.500 --> 04:54:07.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay yung mahahagit

asr-004301
04:54:07.620 --> 04:54:10.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng 1,600 hectares?

asr-004302
04:54:11.000 --> 04:54:12.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan po, Arangurin, Kutkut,

asr-004303
04:54:12.520 --> 04:54:13.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell,

asr-004304
04:54:13.400 --> 04:54:15.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Santa Lucia.

asr-004305
04:54:18.260 --> 04:54:19.500
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-004306
04:54:19.640 --> 04:54:20.720
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004307
04:54:21.220 --> 04:54:23.740
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po kasama

asr-004308
04:54:23.740 --> 04:54:26.020
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung 1,600

asr-004309
04:54:26.020 --> 04:54:27.240
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: dito,

asr-004310
04:54:27.520 --> 04:54:28.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po tinutukoy

asr-004311
04:54:28.920 --> 04:54:30.000
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng sulat na ito,

asr-004312
04:54:30.380 --> 04:54:32.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung pong 1,600 hectares

asr-004313
04:54:32.700 --> 04:54:33.340
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng camp.

asr-004314
04:54:33.340 --> 04:54:34.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo, yung sulat na yan.

asr-004315
04:54:34.880 --> 04:54:35.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero yung tanong ko po,

asr-004316
04:54:36.160 --> 04:54:37.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano po yung mga barangay

asr-004317
04:54:37.380 --> 04:54:38.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Arangurin, Kutkut,

asr-004318
04:54:39.300 --> 04:54:39.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell?

asr-004319
04:54:40.840 --> 04:54:41.900
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Ano po, Madam Speaker?

asr-004320
04:54:42.040 --> 04:54:42.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Can you repeat that please?

asr-004321
04:54:42.940 --> 04:54:43.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Arangurin,

asr-004322
04:54:43.920 --> 04:54:44.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kutkut,

asr-004323
04:54:45.860 --> 04:54:46.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell.

asr-004324
04:54:48.340 --> 04:54:48.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell.

asr-004325
04:54:50.460 --> 04:54:50.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell.

asr-004326
04:54:52.180 --> 04:54:52.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell.

asr-004327
04:54:52.780 --> 04:54:53.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po.

asr-004328
04:54:53.560 --> 04:54:54.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagpunta po kami doon.

asr-004329
04:54:54.580 --> 04:54:55.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun ang pag-pronunciation.

asr-004330
04:54:56.020 --> 04:54:56.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag-pronunciation nila eh.

asr-004331
04:54:56.800 --> 04:54:57.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell.

asr-004332
04:54:58.100 --> 04:54:58.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004333
04:55:07.800 --> 04:55:16.880
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-004334
04:55:17.080 --> 04:55:18.140
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004335
04:55:18.540 --> 04:55:20.820
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung sulat po ay pinadala

asr-004336
04:55:20.820 --> 04:55:22.920
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa kanilang residential address

asr-004337
04:55:22.920 --> 04:55:23.800
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa labas po

asr-004338
04:55:23.800 --> 04:55:25.400
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng New Clark City.

asr-004339
04:55:25.400 --> 04:55:25.780
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Pero,

asr-004340
04:55:26.020 --> 04:55:27.680
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: meron pong maapektuhan

asr-004341
04:55:27.680 --> 04:55:29.300
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa loob ng New Clark City

asr-004342
04:55:29.300 --> 04:55:31.220
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa Master Plan Development.

asr-004343
04:55:31.680 --> 04:55:33.060
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po sila sinulatan.

asr-004344
04:55:33.460 --> 04:55:34.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi nga yung sulat.

asr-004345
04:55:34.820 --> 04:55:36.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong mga barangay yung covered

asr-004346
04:55:36.780 --> 04:55:38.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung 1,600?

asr-004347
04:55:39.560 --> 04:55:40.200
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Barangay.

asr-004348
04:55:40.520 --> 04:55:41.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yan na nga.

asr-004349
04:55:41.140 --> 04:55:42.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At hindi po ba kasama dito

asr-004350
04:55:42.800 --> 04:55:44.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung Arangurin, Kutkut,

asr-004351
04:55:45.240 --> 04:55:45.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O'Donnell?

asr-004352
04:55:45.840 --> 04:55:46.320
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Arangurin.

asr-004353
04:55:47.780 --> 04:55:48.560
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-004354
04:55:48.700 --> 04:55:49.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004355
04:55:49.920 --> 04:55:50.740
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung barangay po

asr-004356
04:55:50.740 --> 04:55:51.700
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: sa kapas po lahat ito.

asr-004357
04:55:51.700 --> 04:55:52.420
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Arangule.

asr-004358
04:55:52.980 --> 04:55:53.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo.

asr-004359
04:55:53.360 --> 04:55:54.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kapas po lahat ito.

asr-004360
04:55:54.780 --> 04:55:55.200
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Arangule.

asr-004361
04:55:56.020 --> 04:55:58.020
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Arangguren.

asr-004362
04:55:58.020 --> 04:55:58.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Opo.

asr-004363
04:55:58.520 --> 04:55:59.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence

asr-004364
04:55:59.520 --> 04:56:01.020
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of our good colleague.

asr-004365
04:56:01.020 --> 04:56:01.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opo.

asr-004366
04:56:01.520 --> 04:56:03.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Your time is past 30 minutes.

asr-004367
04:56:03.520 --> 04:56:04.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes.

asr-004368
04:56:04.020 --> 04:56:05.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Patapos na po.

asr-004369
04:56:05.020 --> 04:56:06.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Please wind up.

asr-004370
04:56:06.520 --> 04:56:08.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naghihintay lang po tayo sa sagot,

asr-004371
04:56:08.020 --> 04:56:09.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker.

asr-004372
04:56:09.020 --> 04:56:10.020
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Madam Speaker,

asr-004373
04:56:10.020 --> 04:56:11.020
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung barangay po

asr-004374
04:56:11.020 --> 04:56:13.020
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ng Arangguran at O'Donnell.

asr-004375
04:56:13.020 --> 04:56:15.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay kasama.

asr-004376
04:56:15.020 --> 04:56:16.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004377
04:56:16.020 --> 04:56:18.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ito po ay,

asr-004378
04:56:18.020 --> 04:56:19.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naggaling kami ron

asr-004379
04:56:19.020 --> 04:56:20.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung September 11,

asr-004380
04:56:20.020 --> 04:56:22.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: karamihan po ng mga residente

asr-004381
04:56:22.020 --> 04:56:23.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay mga AITA.

asr-004382
04:56:23.520 --> 04:56:25.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang tanong po ngayon,

asr-004383
04:56:25.520 --> 04:56:27.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay meron na po bang

asr-004384
04:56:27.520 --> 04:56:30.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: free prior informed consent

asr-004385
04:56:30.520 --> 04:56:34.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para sa pagtutuloy ng proyekto

asr-004386
04:56:34.520 --> 04:56:37.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Pax Silica.

asr-004387
04:56:37.520 --> 04:56:38.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

asr-004388
04:56:38.520 --> 04:56:39.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: distinguished colleague,

asr-004389
04:56:39.520 --> 04:56:40.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: again,

asr-004390
04:56:40.520 --> 04:56:43.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po ito ancestral domain.

asr-004391
04:56:43.520 --> 04:56:44.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Opo.

asr-004392
04:56:44.520 --> 04:56:45.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: Kaya po,

asr-004393
04:56:47.520 --> 04:56:50.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: hindi po required sa aming pananaw

asr-004394
04:56:50.520 --> 04:56:52.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: yung FPIC.

asr-004395
04:56:52.520 --> 04:56:53.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po.

asr-004396
04:56:53.520 --> 04:56:54.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil totoo naman yun,

asr-004397
04:56:54.520 --> 04:56:57.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala pa silang CADTI pending pa po,

asr-004398
04:56:57.520 --> 04:57:00.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: originally filed in 1991,

asr-004399
04:57:00.520 --> 04:57:02.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1999,

asr-004400
04:57:02.520 --> 04:57:05.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and refiled in 2021.

asr-004401
04:57:05.520 --> 04:57:07.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron pong application for CADTI

asr-004402
04:57:07.520 --> 04:57:09.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa area na yan,

asr-004403
04:57:09.520 --> 04:57:12.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga AITA Hungay.

asr-004404
04:57:12.520 --> 04:57:14.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang pangalan ng kanilang grupo

asr-004405
04:57:14.520 --> 04:57:16.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at confirmado po yan ng NCIP.

asr-004406
04:57:16.520 --> 04:57:18.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sinasabi ng NCIP,

asr-004407
04:57:18.520 --> 04:57:20.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: basta may pending application,

asr-004408
04:57:20.520 --> 04:57:23.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kailangan pa rin may konsultasyon

asr-004409
04:57:23.520 --> 04:57:26.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa mga IP na nandyan po.

asr-004410
04:57:26.520 --> 04:57:28.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

asr-004411
04:57:28.520 --> 04:57:30.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: distinguished colleague,

asr-004412
04:57:30.520 --> 04:57:34.520
Rep. Maria Angela S. Garcia: ang BCDA po ay nakikipag-ugnayan sa NCIP.

asr-004413
04:57:34.520 --> 04:57:35.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004414
04:57:35.520 --> 04:57:36.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

asr-004415
04:57:36.520 --> 04:57:38.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yamang may mga concerns po tayo.

asr-004416
04:57:38.520 --> 04:57:40.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Inamin ng NCIP,

asr-004417
04:57:40.520 --> 04:57:42.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: o napakita natin na kahit yung

asr-004418
04:57:42.520 --> 04:57:47.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: original proposal ng BCDA ay

asr-004419
04:57:47.520 --> 04:57:49.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit sila nalilito.

asr-004420
04:57:49.520 --> 04:57:50.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba talaga?

asr-004421
04:57:50.520 --> 04:57:52.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coordination office o economic zone?

asr-004422
04:57:52.520 --> 04:57:54.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pangalawa,

asr-004423
04:57:54.520 --> 04:57:55.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malinaw po,

asr-004424
04:57:55.520 --> 04:57:56.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inamin din,

asr-004425
04:57:56.520 --> 04:57:59.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na meron talagang mga barangay na masasaklaw dito

asr-004426
04:57:59.520 --> 04:58:03.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na meron na komunidad ng mga AITA,

asr-004427
04:58:03.520 --> 04:58:05.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng mga indigenous peoples.

asr-004428
04:58:05.520 --> 04:58:07.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sinasabi nila,

asr-004429
04:58:07.520 --> 04:58:08.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa tingin nila,

asr-004430
04:58:08.520 --> 04:58:10.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi raw kailangan na

asr-004431
04:58:10.520 --> 04:58:13.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makuha ang kanilang consent.

asr-004432
04:58:13.520 --> 04:58:16.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi sila covered ng IPRA requirements, no?

asr-004435
04:58:22.200 --> 04:58:24.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yamang may mga serious concerns pa po tayo rito.

asr-004436
04:58:24.520 --> 04:58:25.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

asr-004437
04:58:25.520 --> 04:58:30.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I move to suspend deliberation on the proposed budget

asr-004438
04:58:30.520 --> 04:58:33.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the Bases Conversion and Development Authority

asr-004439
04:58:33.520 --> 04:58:36.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to allow the consideration of the proposed budget

asr-004440
04:58:36.520 --> 04:58:39.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the other remaining agencies scheduled today.

asr-004441
04:58:39.520 --> 04:58:40.520
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker,

asr-004442
04:58:40.520 --> 04:58:41.520
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: on the part of the majority,

asr-004443
04:58:41.520 --> 04:58:43.520
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: we join the minority in the motion.

asr-004444
04:58:43.520 --> 04:58:45.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a joint motion to suspend consideration

asr-004445
04:58:45.520 --> 04:58:46.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the proposed budget of

asr-004446
04:58:46.520 --> 04:58:48.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Bases Conversion and Development Authority.

asr-004447
04:58:48.520 --> 04:58:49.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do you hear an objection?

asr-004449
04:58:50.520 --> 04:58:51.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none,

asr-004450
04:58:51.520 --> 04:58:53.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the joint motion is approved.

asr-004451
04:58:56.520 --> 04:58:58.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Consideration of the proposed budget

asr-004452
04:58:58.520 --> 04:59:00.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of BCDA is suspended.

asr-004453
04:59:00.520 --> 04:59:01.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader?

asr-004454
04:59:01.520 --> 04:59:02.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker,

asr-004455
04:59:02.520 --> 04:59:04.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move to consider the proposed budget

asr-004456
04:59:04.520 --> 04:59:07.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority.

asr-004457
04:59:09.520 --> 04:59:11.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we also request the Majority Leader

asr-004458
04:59:11.520 --> 04:59:14.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to move for the recognition

asr-004459
04:59:14.520 --> 04:59:16.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the sponsor and the interpolator.

asr-004460
04:59:17.520 --> 04:59:18.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker,

asr-004461
04:59:18.520 --> 04:59:20.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: may we acknowledge the officials

asr-004462
04:59:20.520 --> 04:59:21.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Subic Bay...

asr-004463
04:59:21.830 --> 04:59:22.930
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session suspended.

asr-004464
04:59:36.650 --> 04:59:37.630
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed.

asr-004465
04:59:39.520 --> 04:59:40.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker,

asr-004466
04:59:40.520 --> 04:59:41.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: may we acknowledge the officials

asr-004467
04:59:41.520 --> 04:59:43.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority,

asr-004468
04:59:43.520 --> 04:59:46.520
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Chairman and Administrator Eduardo Aliño.

asr-004469
04:59:46.520 --> 04:59:48.240
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I so move, Madam Speaker.

asr-004471
04:59:50.860 --> 04:59:51.680
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker,

asr-004472
04:59:51.940 --> 04:59:52.940
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: I move that we recognize

asr-004473
04:59:52.940 --> 04:59:56.880
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: the Honorable Bella Vanessa Swancing,

asr-004474
04:59:56.880 --> 05:00:01.820
Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Subic Bay.

asr-004475
05:00:01.840 --> 05:00:08.100
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority

asr-004476
05:00:08.100 --> 05:00:13.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and for this purpose, the Hon. Bella Swansing is recognized to sponsor said measure

asr-004477
05:00:13.520 --> 05:00:16.820
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and the Hon. Rene Luis Co as interpellator.

asr-004478
05:00:16.960 --> 05:00:17.660
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Please proceed.

asr-004479
05:00:19.960 --> 05:00:24.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, good evening.

asr-004480
05:00:24.280 --> 05:00:33.240
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And will the sponsor be open to answer a few questions in relation to the budget

asr-004481
05:00:33.240 --> 05:00:36.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the policies of Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority?

asr-004482
05:00:37.440 --> 05:00:38.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, gladly, Madam Speaker.

asr-004483
05:00:39.140 --> 05:00:46.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we note that under the watch of the current administration,

asr-004484
05:00:47.180 --> 05:00:53.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SBMA has allowed 234 containers of suspected e-waste from the United States

asr-004485
05:00:53.760 --> 05:00:54.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to enter Subic Bay.

asr-004486
05:00:54.280 --> 05:00:56.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Since March 2025.

asr-004487
05:00:57.160 --> 05:01:03.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And another 184 containers almost arrived between August and September 2026,

asr-004488
05:01:04.120 --> 05:01:08.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: all without the prior informed consent required by the Basel Convention.

asr-004489
05:01:08.860 --> 05:01:12.340
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sa ilalim po ng Basel Convention, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

asr-004490
05:01:12.460 --> 05:01:16.880
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng e-waste amendment na pumasok sa bisa noong Enero 2025,

asr-004491
05:01:17.820 --> 05:01:23.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: halos lahat ng e-waste, hazardous man o hindi, ay kontrolado ng konbensyon.

asr-004493
05:01:24.100 --> 05:01:27.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Malinaw sa probisyon ng Article 4, subsection 5,

asr-004494
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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nagbabawal sa kalakalan ng basura sa isang non-party tulad ng United States.

asr-004495
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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: In fact, kung meron pong trade or export galing OECD countries, EU countries,

asr-004496
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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or Liechtenstein, dapat limited lang sa kanila at hindi po sa labas nito mangyari.

asr-004497
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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nonetheless, there's been export of e-waste from the United States imported to the Philippines.

asr-004498
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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Wala rin pong anumang bilateral agreement na nagpapahintulot ng importasyon ng e-waste mula sa US papunta sa Pilipinas.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This is confirmed by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

asr-004500
05:02:05.600 --> 05:02:12.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang umiira lamang nakasunduan ay para sa exports ng ating bansa papunta sa US, and not the other way around.

asr-004501
05:02:13.820 --> 05:02:18.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We have heard preliminarily some defenses of SBMA,

asr-004502
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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and this is also what is provided in an RTC ruling,

asr-004503
05:02:23.120 --> 05:02:23.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which allowed...

asr-004504
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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the activities of such trade in SBMA.

asr-004505
05:02:29.740 --> 05:02:32.480
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, my question is,

asr-004506
05:02:33.000 --> 05:02:40.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: does being a separate customs territory as provided in law enable SBMA to circumvent,

asr-004507
05:02:40.560 --> 05:02:45.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or essentially not follow, ratified international treaties and agreements?

asr-004508
05:02:54.280 --> 05:03:07.680
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, the SBMA confirms the importation of scrapped mixed metals, computer accessories, used meter, used electronics, and scrapped copper.

asr-004509
05:03:08.160 --> 05:03:14.100
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: However, these importations, as per the SBMA, adhere to international treaties.

asr-004510
05:03:15.180 --> 05:03:15.640
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker.

asr-004511
05:03:16.300 --> 05:03:22.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ano pong reaction ng SBMA na...

asr-004512
05:03:22.640 --> 05:03:31.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na under the Convention, and even under the implementing DNR Department Order,

asr-004513
05:03:31.260 --> 05:03:42.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wala naman pong pagbubukod ng e-waste, na ito po ay separate or hindi considered as hazardous wastes.

asr-004514
05:03:42.760 --> 05:03:51.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hazardous wastes po siya na nililimitahan yung import-export regulation trade po nito ng Basel Convention,

asr-004515
05:03:51.640 --> 05:03:52.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which...

asr-004516
05:03:52.180 --> 05:04:02.680
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: which explicitly provides, hindi po pwedeng magkaroon ng export from a non-party to a state party.

asr-004517
05:04:10.440 --> 05:04:11.030
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ...

asr-004518
05:04:21.080 --> 05:04:21.920
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: What does the

asr-004519
05:04:21.920 --> 05:04:22.540
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: sponsor say?

asr-004520
05:04:28.120 --> 05:04:31.220
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004521
05:04:32.320 --> 05:04:41.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: SBMA still confirms that all importations of scrapped mixed metals are not hazardous.

asr-004522
05:04:41.940 --> 05:04:44.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These are...

asr-004523
05:04:44.120 --> 05:04:50.720
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These all adhere to all environmental regulations.

asr-004524
05:04:52.140 --> 05:05:06.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, the Basel Action Network, which maintains and checks the compliance of states with the Basel Convention,

asr-004525
05:05:06.120 --> 05:05:18.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: found in its field investigations in both the U.S. and the Philippines, that these containers that arrived at the Subic Port from the United States,

asr-004526
05:05:18.440 --> 05:05:22.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: both contain hazardous electronic waste, classified as...

asr-004527
05:05:22.140 --> 05:05:28.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A-1181, and e-waste, requiring special consideration or Code 949.

asr-004528
05:05:28.760 --> 05:05:34.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: These are Basel waste listings, illegal to be imported into the Philippines from the U.S.

asr-004529
05:05:35.320 --> 05:05:38.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: due to the fact, again, that the U.S. is a non-party to the Convention.

asr-004530
05:05:38.740 --> 05:05:50.580
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, what is the explanation behind the assertion that there is following of international treaty,

asr-004531
05:05:51.020 --> 05:05:51.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: given the...

asr-004532
05:05:52.140 --> 05:05:55.140
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the citation of this representation right now?

asr-004533
05:05:57.560 --> 05:05:59.600
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004534
05:05:59.600 --> 05:06:05.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the SBMA is willing to cooperate and to also submit to our Distinguished Colleague,

asr-004535
05:06:06.160 --> 05:06:14.100
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: supporting documents that say that these materials are not hazardous,

asr-004536
05:06:15.180 --> 05:06:20.600
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: just to establish that it also complies with all environmental compliances,

asr-004537
05:06:20.960 --> 05:06:22.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as well as international.

asr-004538
05:06:22.140 --> 05:06:25.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, we will welcome these submissions.

asr-004539
05:06:26.620 --> 05:06:30.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But I'd like an explanation on the floor right now.

asr-004540
05:06:31.480 --> 05:06:37.900
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano po yung basihan kung bakit nasasabi, kahit succinctly po, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

asr-004541
05:06:38.480 --> 05:06:41.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bakit po hindi iligal yung kalakala na ito?

asr-004542
05:06:41.940 --> 05:06:44.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ano ang basihan kung bakit hindi po iligal ito?

asr-004543
05:06:45.020 --> 05:06:50.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We have heard the RTC ruling, which says nga po na separate customs territory ang SBMA.

asr-004544
05:06:51.060 --> 05:06:51.960
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But I believe...

asr-004545
05:06:52.140 --> 05:06:53.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

asr-004546
05:06:53.380 --> 05:06:56.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that doesn't mean that they are exempted from the Basel Convention,

asr-004547
05:06:56.940 --> 05:07:00.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the DNR Department Order implementing it,

asr-004548
05:07:00.480 --> 05:07:06.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and even other prevailing international laws and domestic regulations.

asr-004549
05:07:06.640 --> 05:07:09.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, we will look forward to that.

asr-004550
05:07:09.700 --> 05:07:12.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But ano po on the floor, succinctly, ang rason?

asr-004551
05:07:13.020 --> 05:07:16.140
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, just for the record also,

asr-004552
05:07:16.680 --> 05:07:20.740
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: it's because the materials are not hazardous waste.

asr-004553
05:07:20.740 --> 05:07:21.740
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, if I may...

asr-004554
05:07:22.140 --> 05:07:23.620
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Again, repeat.

asr-004555
05:07:24.340 --> 05:07:29.920
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: These importations are scrap mixed metals, computer accessories,

asr-004556
05:07:30.780 --> 05:07:35.440
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: used meters, used electronics, and scrap copper, which are not hazardous.

asr-004557
05:07:36.140 --> 05:07:41.920
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, SBMA reiterates that these are not hazardous waste.

asr-004558
05:07:42.080 --> 05:07:47.520
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: And so, the importation of such materials are not violated,

asr-004559
05:07:47.520 --> 05:07:51.460
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: or doesn't violate international treaties and the Basel Convention as well.

asr-004560
05:07:52.140 --> 05:08:01.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Under what legal basis can the SBMA provide now to say that they are not hazardous waste?

asr-004561
05:08:01.080 --> 05:08:03.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this internal assessment?

asr-004562
05:08:03.760 --> 05:08:13.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is this a different citation which they can state where it is classified differently

asr-004563
05:08:13.980 --> 05:08:22.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because the prevailing rules as of now lists the containers as hazardous electronic wastes and e-waste,

asr-004564
05:08:22.140 --> 05:08:23.780
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: is requiring special consideration?

asr-004565
05:08:32.180 --> 05:08:43.440
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, as for the SBMA, these materials are all inspected from importation.

asr-004566
05:08:44.160 --> 05:08:46.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Inspected by whom, Madam Speaker? Good sponsor.

asr-004567
05:08:46.940 --> 05:08:47.500
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sorry.

asr-004568
05:08:47.780 --> 05:08:48.720
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Inspected by whom?

asr-004569
05:08:49.540 --> 05:08:50.920
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: By the SBMA, Madam Speaker.

asr-004570
05:08:51.260 --> 05:08:51.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is the...

asr-004571
05:08:51.980 --> 05:08:55.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: The Bureau of Customs and DNR involved in the inspections, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

asr-004572
05:08:56.360 --> 05:08:57.060
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-004573
05:08:57.740 --> 05:08:58.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

asr-004574
05:08:58.840 --> 05:09:10.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: For now, there is no legal basis that has been cited other than the assurance that SBMA inspected them.

asr-004575
05:09:10.820 --> 05:09:14.740
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, given the limited time that I have,

asr-004576
05:09:15.200 --> 05:09:21.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: let it be stated on the record that to the question and to the...

asr-004577
05:09:21.980 --> 05:09:26.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: legal basis that this representation cited, there has been no counter-legal basis provided.

asr-004578
05:09:27.000 --> 05:09:35.700
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, my next line of question would be regarding the position of SBMA

asr-004579
05:09:35.700 --> 05:09:44.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to a Committee on Ecology meeting I had the opportunity to attend on March 11, 2026,

asr-004580
05:09:44.840 --> 05:09:51.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: where our topic is hazardous waste management and strengthening the Environmental Management Bureau.

asr-004581
05:09:51.380 --> 05:10:01.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We talked about the possible amendment of the Toxic and Hazardous Wastes Act present and prevailing in our jurisprudence now.

asr-004582
05:10:02.140 --> 05:10:12.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SBMA was in attendance and it gave the position that they are pushing for the designation of free trade zones such as SUBIC

asr-004583
05:10:12.180 --> 05:10:15.600
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: to become Basel Convention Free Zones.

asr-004584
05:10:16.640 --> 05:10:21.220
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ano pong ibig sabihin ng SBMA nung sinabi niya na gustong maging Basel Convention Free Zone

asr-004587
05:10:22.660 --> 05:10:24.060
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang Subic Freeport?

asr-004588
05:10:25.900 --> 05:10:32.660
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And is the agency asking for an exception from international treaties and our local environmental laws?

asr-004589
05:10:43.140 --> 05:10:51.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, the reason cited by the SBMA is some locators would want to

asr-004591
05:10:51.400 --> 05:11:06.900
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: expand their operations to include imports from the United States, and because the United States is not a signatory of the Basel Convention, that is the basis for the statement of the SBMA.

asr-004592
05:11:06.900 --> 05:11:51.300
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, I think desiring trade with the United States is not a heavy enough justification to look for an exception from a prevailing international treaty that seeks to protect the Philippines from the transboundary waste trade disproportionately affecting Southeast Asian countries, to the point that there has to be a call from Southeast Asian countries that [unclear] not the

asr-004593
05:11:51.300 --> 05:12:21.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dumping ground or trash can of developed countries. But at the end of the day, it will remove us from protections already in place, not just in discussion with the US but also with other countries that may seek to do trade.

asr-004594
05:12:21.800 --> 05:12:30.100
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we will ask instead for a written explanation for that comment given in the March 11, 2026 hearing.

asr-004595
05:12:30.700 --> 05:12:38.000
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, magkano po ba ang kinikita ng SBMA mula sa kalakalan ng recyclable waste?

asr-004596
05:12:41.060 --> 05:12:45.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How much, I assume, of course, may kita ang ating mga locators dyan.

asr-004597
05:12:45.400 --> 05:12:48.440
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How much of it goes to SBMA, Madam Speaker, good sponsor?

asr-004598
05:13:19.300 --> 05:13:42.320
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: [unclear] If the distinguished colleague will be willing to allow our distinguished sponsor and the SBMA family to submit a written report.

asr-004600
05:13:50.700 --> 05:14:04.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay, for payments of recyclers, as per SBMA data, it's around 200, sorry, 205 million pesos, Madam Speaker.

asr-004601
05:14:05.300 --> 05:14:10.540
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 205,864,939 pesos for 2025.

asr-004602
05:14:12.780 --> 05:14:20.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Madam Speaker, good sponsor, in the interest of time, we will also be requesting the same to be submitted via a written report.

asr-004604
05:14:21.320 --> 05:14:32.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: As well as details on how much private recycling facilities yield in profit, alongside how much that would go to SBMA.

asr-004605
05:14:32.700 --> 05:14:35.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be in relation to its budget.

asr-004606
05:14:36.260 --> 05:14:45.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SBMA's proposed 500 million subsidy is for ecozone infrastructure, but the NEP also records 1 billion in unreleased 2025 appropriations.

asr-004607
05:14:46.560 --> 05:14:50.040
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Has that amount now been released, Madam Speaker? We'd like to seek a clarification.

asr-004608
05:14:50.040 --> 05:14:53.560
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Which brought, maybe that, Madam Speaker?

asr-004609
05:15:00.000 --> 05:15:07.500
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It hasn't been released yet, Madam Speaker.

asr-004610
05:15:07.840 --> 05:15:10.460
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It has not yet been released, Madam Speaker.

asr-004611
05:15:10.660 --> 05:15:18.820
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We also just ask to submit by report which projects are affected because of its non-release yet

asr-004612
05:15:18.820 --> 05:15:24.080
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and what must be resolved before they can proceed, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

asr-004613
05:15:24.280 --> 05:15:25.380
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: As we will comply, Madam Speaker.

asr-004614
05:15:25.380 --> 05:15:32.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next question would be in relation to the joint efforts of the BOC, the DENREMB, and SBMA,

asr-004615
05:15:32.900 --> 05:15:34.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as stated and referenced earlier.

asr-004616
05:15:35.080 --> 05:15:39.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We saw that in July 1 of this year, they publicly posted that they conducted a joint inspection

asr-004617
05:15:39.940 --> 05:15:42.760
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on several recycling locators in Subic.

asr-004618
05:15:43.100 --> 05:15:47.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Can this representation be furnished with a copy of this report, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor?

asr-004619
05:15:48.140 --> 05:15:49.380
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we will comply, Madam Speaker.

asr-004620
05:15:50.980 --> 05:15:54.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, if ma, masama po sana,

asr-004621
05:15:54.640 --> 05:15:54.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ilan ang...

asr-004622
05:15:55.380 --> 05:15:59.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: di lang ng mga nag-ooperate ng mga recycling locators doon

asr-004623
05:15:59.840 --> 05:16:07.180
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because when we asked DENREMB yesterday, wala raw po silang data on the recycling facilities in Subic.

asr-004624
05:16:07.540 --> 05:16:13.860
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And so, the appropriate agency to ask would be the one...

asr-004625
05:16:13.860 --> 05:16:15.640
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SBMA, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

asr-004626
05:16:15.800 --> 05:16:16.580
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-004627
05:16:16.860 --> 05:16:23.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We'll also give our distinguished colleague a copy, but there are, as of now, 14 active locators, 18 total.

asr-004628
05:16:23.320 --> 05:16:24.260
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 14, 1-4?

asr-004629
05:16:24.420 --> 05:16:25.140
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 1-4, yes.

asr-004630
05:16:25.380 --> 05:16:25.940
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 14, Madam Speaker.

asr-004631
05:16:25.960 --> 05:16:27.700
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: We will submit the list, Madam Speaker.

asr-004632
05:16:27.900 --> 05:16:28.320
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you.

asr-004633
05:16:28.560 --> 05:16:36.420
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And my last line of questioning, Madam Speaker, this would be in relation to the public pronouncements of SBMA

asr-004634
05:16:36.420 --> 05:16:37.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in relation to Paxilica.

asr-004635
05:16:37.980 --> 05:16:48.520
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: We have seen that sa pinirmahan na MOU ng SBMA at BCDA, may pagbubukas na gagamitin ng Subic Bayport

asr-004636
05:16:48.520 --> 05:16:52.160
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bilang quote-unquote maritime gateway ng Paxilica.

asr-004637
05:16:52.380 --> 05:16:54.920
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maari po bang malaman ang extent nito?

asr-004638
05:17:03.930 --> 05:17:09.000
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I believe that was the last question of our distinguished colleague.

asr-004639
05:17:10.400 --> 05:17:17.600
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: And after the sponsor response, may we request our distinguished colleague from Kabataan Party List to wrap up.

asr-004640
05:17:17.720 --> 05:17:19.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yes, Madam Speaker, it will be my last question.

asr-004641
05:17:19.840 --> 05:17:24.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I just like to note that according to the press release, the port will serve DAO.

asr-004642
05:17:25.380 --> 05:17:29.400
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: It's a critical gateway enabling the efficient movement of raw materials into the country

asr-004643
05:17:29.400 --> 05:17:32.280
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and timely delivery of finished products to customers.

asr-004644
05:17:32.460 --> 05:17:35.380
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So we'd like clarification sa extent nito, Madam Speaker.

asr-004645
05:17:35.480 --> 05:17:35.840
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor.

asr-004646
05:17:36.400 --> 05:17:37.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-004647
05:17:37.680 --> 05:17:39.540
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: This is a non-binding agreement.

asr-004648
05:17:39.880 --> 05:17:42.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: It's a MOU between BCDA and SBMA.

asr-004649
05:17:43.400 --> 05:17:53.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So it's just restricted to the use of Port of Subic, the limited use of Port of Subic for the maritime logistics requirements of the proposed project.

asr-004650
05:17:54.260 --> 05:17:55.360
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay, a copy of this MOU.

asr-004651
05:17:55.380 --> 05:17:57.540
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: A copy of this MOU would also be requested, Madam Speaker.

asr-004652
05:17:57.640 --> 05:17:58.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Good sponsor.

asr-004653
05:17:58.120 --> 05:17:59.020
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I have no further questions.

asr-004654
05:17:59.280 --> 05:18:00.800
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for your time and for the clarification.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ...

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Rep. Rhea Mae A. Gullas: Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Antonio Tino for his interpellation.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Antonio Tino is recognized.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilang mga tanong po sa sponsor natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, I'll ask the sponsor to explain.

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05:18:43.060 --> 05:18:50.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ba ang ambag ng SBMA sa ekonomiya ng Pilipinas?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mahalaga ba?

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05:18:52.600 --> 05:18:53.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Malaki ba?

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05:18:54.260 --> 05:18:54.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Malaki.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, briefly, as of now, there are 1,783 locators.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang ini-employ po ang may trabaho dahil sa SBMA ay 174,930 na tao.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang total investment na nakuha na ng SBMA ay 610 billion pesos.

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05:19:18.600 --> 05:19:24.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Tapos ang nabigay na sa Pambansang Pamalaan through dividends is 12.15.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 12.15 billion pesos, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, 12.15 billion pesos ang nabigay.

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05:19:31.580 --> 05:19:34.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyan po ba para sa isang taon?

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05:19:34.320 --> 05:19:35.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Which year was that?

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05:19:35.620 --> 05:19:36.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Could you just clarify?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Mula 1999, Madam Speaker.

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05:19:38.560 --> 05:19:39.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mula 1999.

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05:19:40.280 --> 05:19:40.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, okay, 174,000 plus ang employed.

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05:19:47.020 --> 05:19:49.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And you mentioned over 1,000 locators.

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05:19:49.460 --> 05:19:50.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ilan po yung locators?

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05:19:50.620 --> 05:19:52.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 1,783.

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05:19:52.760 --> 05:19:53.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As of June.

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05:19:53.560 --> 05:19:54.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1,783 locators.

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05:19:55.380 --> 05:19:58.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin, iba't-ibang mga negosyo.

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05:19:59.180 --> 05:20:00.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mga foreign investor po ba ito?

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05:20:01.840 --> 05:20:02.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O hindi lahat?

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05:20:03.360 --> 05:20:04.860
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Foreign and domestic po, mix po.

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05:20:04.980 --> 05:20:07.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Foreign and domestic investors.

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05:20:08.760 --> 05:20:10.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in terms of...

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05:20:12.980 --> 05:20:15.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? May mga information din tayo rito.

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05:20:15.500 --> 05:20:16.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How big is the zone?

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05:20:16.780 --> 05:20:17.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is it...

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05:20:17.540 --> 05:20:18.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: How big is the zone?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: 60,000 square kilometers, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Square?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sixty-seven square, siguro, hektars po.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sixty thousand square meters.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ilan yun yung hektars?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hektars siguro.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hektars.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi naman po square kilometers.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Sixty-seven thousand hektars.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sixty-seven thousand hektars.

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05:20:41.880 --> 05:20:47.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And is it correct there are 15 operational piers and wharves?

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05:20:48.060 --> 05:20:51.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi subik harbor yan, di ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, mainly port, it used to be.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam naman natin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: A naval base, di ba?

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05:20:57.180 --> 05:20:57.400
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes.

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05:20:57.440 --> 05:20:58.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, is that correct?

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05:20:58.300 --> 05:21:01.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There are 15 operational piers and wharves?

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05:21:01.760 --> 05:21:03.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker, we confirm.

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05:21:03.460 --> 05:21:03.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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05:21:05.500 --> 05:21:06.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Container throughput.

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05:21:06.760 --> 05:21:08.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, may mga info po tayong nakuha.

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05:21:08.420 --> 05:21:10.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung container, shipping container.

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05:21:11.500 --> 05:21:14.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi po rito, latest figure 2024.

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05:21:15.500 --> 05:21:17.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Roughly 600,000 TEU.

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05:21:19.500 --> 05:21:24.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, parang container, yun yung standard measure ng container size, di ba?

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05:21:25.220 --> 05:21:25.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes.

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05:21:25.980 --> 05:21:27.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that more or less correct?

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05:21:28.220 --> 05:21:30.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganon, yung shipping na dumadaan dyan?

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05:21:31.160 --> 05:21:33.780
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, total capacity is 600,000, Madam Speaker.

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05:21:34.100 --> 05:21:34.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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05:21:35.600 --> 05:21:44.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At in terms of GDP, meron ba kayong figure sa ambag ng subik sa GDP, kumbaga, ng Pilipinas?

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05:21:50.980 --> 05:21:55.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Meron lang po tayo for, ano, well, overall contribution to the national economy.

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05:21:55.220 --> 05:22:12.300
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, for 2020, isa sabi dito po yung collections from the Bureau of Customs, yung mga taxes po na binabayaran sa BIR, yung dividends po na babayaran sa national government, tapos sa LGU share.

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05:22:12.860 --> 05:22:18.180
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, 2025 po, 53.1 billion pesos.

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05:22:19.120 --> 05:22:24.440
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Consistent po na over 50 billion since 2022, per year, na nabibigay po ng SBMA.

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05:22:24.440 --> 05:22:25.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Consistent po na.

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05:22:25.220 --> 05:22:28.700
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Over 50 billion po ang naibibigay ng SBMA.

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05:22:28.700 --> 05:22:33.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Consistently, over 50 billion ang nabibigay ng subik ng SBMA. Tama po ba?

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05:22:34.100 --> 05:22:34.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Apo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa national government. So, safe to say, napakahalaga po nito, hindi lang sa regional economy ng Region 3, kundi national economy. Tama po ba?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Apo, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama. Okay.

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05:22:47.260 --> 05:22:50.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At kanina, pinanong natin sa BCDA,

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05:22:53.180 --> 05:22:53.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kinonfirm nila.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gusto ko rin marinig sa inyo, nagkaroon po ng MOU sa pagitan ng BCDA at SBMA designating the port of subik as the primary entry and exit point for logistics, etc. under Paxilica. Correct?

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05:23:09.420 --> 05:23:10.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba yun?

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05:23:10.280 --> 05:23:10.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker.

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05:23:11.320 --> 05:23:17.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. So, in other words, involved din po sa Paxilica ang subik. Tama po?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker. As a port.

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05:23:21.260 --> 05:23:23.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: As the port. Parang dito yung main na...

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Entry and exit point. Dalu yan ng mga investment, produkto, and so on. Including, for example, energy. Parang ganun po yung narinig natin.

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker, as per the MOU, binasignate lang po ang port of subik as yung gateway for the maritime logistics requirements.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Sige. Okay. Now, yung subik, hindi po yan EDCA site, hindi po ba?

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05:23:53.960 --> 05:23:55.340
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Hindi po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And necessarily, hindi siya EDCA site kasi yung mga approved locations under the EDCA agreement, they have to be properties provided by the AFP and DND, mga military locations. So, subik, hindi. Tama?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Hindi po, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nevertheless, tama rin po ba na malaganap ang gamit ng US military sa subik? Is that correct?

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05:24:23.960 --> 05:24:25.960
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes.

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05:24:25.960 --> 05:24:27.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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05:24:39.960 --> 05:24:43.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Naku, yung oras tumutuloy, Madam Speaker. So, i-consider nyo na lang yan.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: If our distinguished colleague is amenable, the SBMA family can actually furnish your office to our good sponsor, a written response to your queries.

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05:24:53.960 --> 05:25:00.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. That would be great, Madam Speaker. But I think the sponsor is also ready to give a response.

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05:25:00.820 --> 05:25:10.080
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. The SBMA confirms that there are economic activities that involve American firms, American actors.

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05:25:10.400 --> 05:25:13.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: American firms servicing the US military. Correct?

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05:25:14.620 --> 05:25:15.740
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes. Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example, let me cite, ito based on mga open source research, diba? Subik Dry Dock Corporation. Tama po ba?

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05:25:23.960 --> 05:25:24.960
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes.

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05:25:24.960 --> 05:25:31.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ginagawa nila, repair and overhaul of US Navy vessels. Correct?

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05:25:32.560 --> 05:25:33.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker.

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05:25:33.660 --> 05:25:48.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. The PCSPC fuel terminal, yung pinakamalaking fuel depot sa buong bansa, in fact, that is owned by an American equity firm, I-squared Capital.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, hindi po ba, among others, it stores fuel...

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05:25:53.960 --> 05:26:06.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It stores fuel for exclusive use of the US Navy. Tama po ba? Among others, hindi lahat. Hindi lahat. Pero merong fuel na ginagamit ng US Navy.

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05:26:06.460 --> 05:26:07.840
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Non-exclusive, Madam Speaker.

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05:26:07.840 --> 05:26:11.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Not exclusive. Pero meron. Tama po. Correct?

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05:26:11.520 --> 05:26:12.020
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Alam ko, yung recently, yung PNOC, bumili ng diesel, tapos nilagay din dyan. Tama po ba?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct.

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05:26:23.960 --> 05:26:33.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Strategic Oil Reserve or Fuel Reserve ay nandyan, katabi nung fuel ng US Navy. Tama po?

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Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Opo.

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05:26:34.760 --> 05:26:35.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama. Okay.

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05:26:37.380 --> 05:26:53.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: February 2025, US Marine Corps Repositioning Warehouse. This is a 5,300 square meter facility used to store vehicle communications assets, engineering assets. Correct?

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05:26:53.960 --> 05:26:56.300
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker.

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05:26:56.300 --> 05:27:01.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct. So yung US Marine Corps, meron silang storage facility dyan.

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05:27:04.020 --> 05:27:11.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Army staging. Aguila, Subic. Processing and storage of US Army equipment.

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05:27:13.380 --> 05:27:23.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba? Ito, yung Aguila facility sa Subic, ginagamit ng US Army naman ito.

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05:27:23.960 --> 05:27:25.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa, Marine Corps. Ito naman, Army.

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05:27:27.440 --> 05:27:36.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the contractor for that is an American logistics contractor for the U.S. military known as V2X.

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05:27:38.300 --> 05:27:42.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po, V2X. Alam po niyan ni Chairman.

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05:27:42.700 --> 05:27:48.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. V2X is a defense contractor for logistics ng U.S. military.

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05:27:49.360 --> 05:27:50.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ginagamit nila yan.

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05:27:50.500 --> 05:28:05.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun, part of Subic Bay, ginagamit routinely for maintenance ng mga U.S. Navy ships including submarines.

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05:28:07.080 --> 05:28:12.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba, yung mga Ohio-class nuclear submarines ng U.S. ay nandyan.

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05:28:13.480 --> 05:28:18.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dumadaong dyan, nagpapaayos, nagpaparefuel, and so on and so forth.

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05:28:18.600 --> 05:28:36.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The most recent incident being a U.S. destroyer that was recently stranded for four days in the South China Sea.

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05:28:37.300 --> 05:28:42.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos nawala ng kuryente. Tapos dinala sa Subic. Tama po ba?

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05:28:45.580 --> 05:28:47.220
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker.

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05:28:47.220 --> 05:28:48.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct?

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05:28:48.600 --> 05:28:50.280
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, we confirm, Madam Speaker.

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05:28:50.280 --> 05:28:52.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You confirm, no? Okay.

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05:28:53.460 --> 05:28:58.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, malinaw po, as I said, extensively used by the U.S. military ang Subic.

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05:28:59.300 --> 05:29:08.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, mas ginagamit pa po ito ng U.S. military kesa sa mga EDCA locations, yung approved locations.

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05:29:08.180 --> 05:29:08.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

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05:29:10.880 --> 05:29:12.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O hindi n?yo na, hindi n?yo na...

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05:29:12.580 --> 05:29:16.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi na sa inyo manggagaling. Ako na nagsasabi na ito talaga yung main...

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05:29:18.600 --> 05:29:25.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Entry and exit point, storage point, logistics hub ng U.S. military dito sa Pilipinas.

asr-004801
05:29:26.020 --> 05:29:30.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lalo na pagbalikatan. At saka yung ibang mga exercises. So, napakalinaw po nun.

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05:29:30.780 --> 05:29:40.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. At the same time, sinabi natin kanina, this is the main economic engine in Luzon.

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05:29:41.200 --> 05:29:45.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And in much of... and in the larger Filipino economy, correct?

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05:29:46.240 --> 05:29:46.560
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes.

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05:29:46.560 --> 05:29:47.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes. Okay.

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05:29:47.780 --> 05:29:51.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ngayon, ito po ang isang concern natin dito, no?

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05:29:54.260 --> 05:30:00.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang nangyari sa Iran war, particularly sa Gulf State?

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05:30:00.900 --> 05:30:01.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

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05:30:03.060 --> 05:30:05.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po, meron tayong visual na naman yata.

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05:30:09.280 --> 05:30:18.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, it is well known that during this ongoing, di pa po tapos na gera sa Iran,

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05:30:18.900 --> 05:30:27.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course, sinalakay ng US ang Iran way back end of February, beginning of March,

asr-004812
05:30:27.280 --> 05:30:33.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hanggang ngayon nagpapatuloy, nagdulot ng krisis na energy crisis.

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05:30:33.160 --> 05:30:37.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We are still under a state of energy emergency, di ba?

asr-004814
05:30:37.920 --> 05:30:40.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Because of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

asr-004815
05:30:40.940 --> 05:30:47.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ang isang nangyari po ay tinarget, in response, tinarget ng Iran

asr-004816
05:30:47.380 --> 05:30:55.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: using their missile and drone capability, advanced missile and drone capability,

asr-004817
05:30:55.700 --> 05:30:57.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: drone and missile capability.

asr-004818
05:30:57.280 --> 05:31:02.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una, US bases throughout the Gulf.

asr-004819
05:31:02.980 --> 05:31:10.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In fact, nawasak yung main naval base ng 5th Fleet ng US sa Bahrain.

asr-004820
05:31:11.740 --> 05:31:21.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nga namu-problema ang US Navy ngayon dahil wala na silang main base logistics hub and so on in the Gulf.

asr-004821
05:31:22.120 --> 05:31:27.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, wasak po yung base, umatras ang US na palayas, in other words, ng Iran.

asr-004822
05:31:27.280 --> 05:31:31.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kanilang mga base militar, ang US.

asr-004823
05:31:31.840 --> 05:31:35.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero hindi lang po military targets ang tinarget ng Iran.

asr-004824
05:31:36.680 --> 05:31:43.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tinarget din po nila extensively ang mga dual-use targets.

asr-004825
05:31:44.020 --> 05:31:47.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, civilian facilities na may ginagamit din ng US military.

asr-004826
05:31:48.800 --> 05:31:50.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example,

asr-004828
05:31:50.400 --> 05:31:52.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

asr-004830
05:31:53.780 --> 05:31:58.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: according to our research,

asr-004831
05:31:58.840 --> 05:31:59.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Iran,

asr-004832
05:31:59.440 --> 05:31:59.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iran,

asr-004833
05:32:00.400 --> 05:32:04.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and its Iran-aligned groups,

asr-004834
05:32:04.680 --> 05:32:06.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for example, yung the Houthis in Yemen,

asr-004835
05:32:07.380 --> 05:32:12.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: conducted at least 172 attacks on non-military infrastructure

asr-004836
05:32:12.520 --> 05:32:16.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: across the six Gulf Cooperation Council states.

asr-004837
05:32:17.540 --> 05:32:19.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 172 attacks.

asr-004838
05:32:19.680 --> 05:32:20.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong mga tinarget?

asr-004839
05:32:21.300 --> 05:32:22.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Energy facilities.

asr-004841
05:32:22.780 --> 05:32:33.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oil, gas, power, desalination facilities, airports and ports, yung Kuwait Airport, ay tinarget yan kasi ginagamit ng US military.

asr-004842
05:32:34.880 --> 05:32:42.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Commercial, mga industrial facilities, financial facilities, government facilities, data centers, for example.

asr-004843
05:32:42.180 --> 05:32:52.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito yung isang recent news report, sabi dito, ay Iran strikes on Amazon data centers.

asr-004844
05:32:52.780 --> 05:32:58.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These are Amazon data centers in the United Arab Emirates mainly, no?

asr-004845
05:32:59.840 --> 05:33:02.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: UAE and Bahrain.

asr-004846
05:33:03.600 --> 05:33:04.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tinarget din po.

asr-004847
05:33:04.660 --> 05:33:09.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi ng Iran, basta ginagamit ng US, no?

asr-004848
05:33:09.800 --> 05:33:17.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Whether yung explicitly military or, in this case, data centers.

asr-004849
05:33:17.800 --> 05:33:21.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi AI, ginagamit yan ng US military.

asr-004850
05:33:21.500 --> 05:33:23.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So tinarget din nila.

asr-004852
05:33:24.100 --> 05:33:33.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And they very precisely targeted the data centers of Amazon in Bahrain as well as in the UAE.

asr-004853
05:33:34.100 --> 05:33:35.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dalawang areas, no?

asr-004854
05:33:36.500 --> 05:33:42.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the damage was so extensive na, sabi rito, caused permanent data loss.

asr-004855
05:33:43.100 --> 05:33:49.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na yung mga data center, yung mga malalaking korporasyon, they upload all their data on the cloud, di ba?

asr-004856
05:33:49.300 --> 05:33:51.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: To Amazon.

asr-004857
05:33:52.120 --> 05:33:52.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isa sa pinakalimutan.

asr-004858
05:33:52.780 --> 05:34:00.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinaka-trusted, pinaka-malaki na cloud service along with Google and Microsoft, yung Azure.

asr-004859
05:34:01.980 --> 05:34:09.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, in the case of Amazon, nawasak yung data center sa Bahrain, nawasak din yung sa UAE, nawala na yung backup.

asr-004860
05:34:09.560 --> 05:34:15.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Even though, isa sa mga pinagmamalaki ng Amazon, redundancy, siyempre, di ba?

asr-004861
05:34:15.980 --> 05:34:18.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag nasira yung isa dyan, meron kang backup.

asr-004862
05:34:18.180 --> 05:34:19.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dito po, wasak po lahat.

asr-004863
05:34:19.760 --> 05:34:20.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala ng backup.

asr-004864
05:34:20.340 --> 05:34:22.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that means...

asr-004865
05:34:22.780 --> 05:34:26.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Significant damage, not just to the infrastructure, business damage, di ba?

asr-004866
05:34:26.960 --> 05:34:32.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nawala na yung data ng mga kliyente, nung Amazon.

asr-004867
05:34:32.600 --> 05:34:36.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yan ang sinasabi dyan sa artikulo na yan.

asr-004868
05:34:36.860 --> 05:34:38.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, that's just one example.

asr-004869
05:34:39.040 --> 05:34:48.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, other major attacks are on Kuwait, for example, yung kanilang natural gas facility.

asr-004870
05:34:49.500 --> 05:34:51.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Very precisely targeted.

asr-004871
05:34:51.340 --> 05:34:51.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nga po, matindihan.

asr-004872
05:34:52.780 --> 05:34:56.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, ang problema sa supply ng natural gas, among others.

asr-004873
05:34:57.080 --> 05:35:00.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: If our distinguished colleague can please...

asr-004874
05:35:00.520 --> 05:35:03.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sixteen minutes pa lang po, Madam Speaker.

asr-004875
05:35:03.180 --> 05:35:06.740
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: I thought you were going to reserve your energy for DOST.

asr-004876
05:35:06.740 --> 05:35:09.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, well, don't worry, Madam Speaker.

asr-004877
05:35:10.340 --> 05:35:11.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya pa natin, di ba?

asr-004878
05:35:12.000 --> 05:35:13.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so ano lang ang point?

asr-004879
05:35:14.160 --> 05:35:15.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, malinaw po.

asr-004880
05:35:16.340 --> 05:35:22.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In times of war, even the international laws of war,

asr-004881
05:35:22.780 --> 05:35:23.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: allow that, no?

asr-004882
05:35:23.680 --> 05:35:25.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagka yung facility, dual use,

asr-004883
05:35:26.440 --> 05:35:29.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagamit for civilian as well as military purposes.

asr-004884
05:35:29.480 --> 05:35:30.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Legitimate target.

asr-004885
05:35:31.760 --> 05:35:31.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004886
05:35:32.460 --> 05:35:33.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, wasak!

asr-004887
05:35:34.360 --> 05:35:38.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napakalaki ng economic damage to the Gulf states,

asr-004888
05:35:38.940 --> 05:35:40.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the economies of the Gulf states.

asr-004889
05:35:40.580 --> 05:35:43.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And remember, mga mayayamang bansa ito,

asr-004890
05:35:43.460 --> 05:35:45.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain.

asr-004891
05:35:47.300 --> 05:35:48.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Also remember,

asr-004892
05:35:48.120 --> 05:35:52.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: these Gulf states also have massive...

asr-004893
05:35:52.780 --> 05:35:54.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: military capabilities.

asr-004894
05:35:55.240 --> 05:35:59.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sila, they heavily invested in

asr-004895
05:35:59.600 --> 05:36:05.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the most sophisticated missile defense systems,

asr-004896
05:36:05.720 --> 05:36:09.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including yung Patriot system ng US.

asr-004897
05:36:10.600 --> 05:36:10.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-004898
05:36:10.900 --> 05:36:13.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pangontra sa mga missile attacks ng Iran.

asr-004899
05:36:14.160 --> 05:36:15.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Despite that,

asr-004900
05:36:15.520 --> 05:36:16.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang laki pa rin ng nawasak.

asr-004901
05:36:17.100 --> 05:36:17.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-004902
05:36:18.220 --> 05:36:19.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anong point ko?

asr-004903
05:36:19.460 --> 05:36:20.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit ko sinasabi to?

asr-004904
05:36:21.320 --> 05:36:22.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siguro alam na natin,

asr-004905
05:36:22.780 --> 05:36:23.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pinupuntahan.

asr-004906
05:36:23.900 --> 05:36:24.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibalik natin ngayon

asr-004907
05:36:24.980 --> 05:36:27.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa kaso ng Subic.

asr-004908
05:36:28.600 --> 05:36:29.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kanina, sabi natin,

asr-004909
05:36:30.440 --> 05:36:31.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakalaking ambag,

asr-004910
05:36:31.640 --> 05:36:32.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakahalaga.

asr-004911
05:36:32.440 --> 05:36:35.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The main industrial engine

asr-004912
05:36:35.340 --> 05:36:38.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Luzon and probably nationwide.

asr-004913
05:36:40.580 --> 05:36:42.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaso, pinakita din natin,

asr-004914
05:36:43.920 --> 05:36:45.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay magkatabi na

asr-004915
05:36:45.400 --> 05:36:47.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at magkasama

asr-004916
05:36:47.020 --> 05:36:49.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung economic na civilian

asr-004917
05:36:49.520 --> 05:36:51.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at saka US military.

asr-004918
05:36:51.940 --> 05:36:52.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nilista.

asr-004919
05:36:52.780 --> 05:36:54.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ako kanina, dry dock,

asr-004920
05:36:54.880 --> 05:36:56.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mayroong storage facility,

asr-004921
05:36:57.280 --> 05:37:00.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fuel storage.

asr-004922
05:37:01.500 --> 05:37:02.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, yung pinakamalaking fuel

asr-004923
05:37:02.840 --> 05:37:03.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dito ng Pilipinas,

asr-004924
05:37:04.140 --> 05:37:06.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandun yung sarili nating reserves,

asr-004925
05:37:07.140 --> 05:37:08.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandun din yung reserves

asr-004926
05:37:08.260 --> 05:37:09.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng US military.

asr-004927
05:37:10.080 --> 05:37:11.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Galing pa po yan sa Hawaii,

asr-004928
05:37:11.420 --> 05:37:12.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung sinara nilang facility.

asr-004929
05:37:12.800 --> 05:37:13.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-004930
05:37:13.480 --> 05:37:15.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Does the SBMA confirm that?

asr-004931
05:37:16.520 --> 05:37:19.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, yung fuel dito ng Hawaii

asr-004932
05:37:19.080 --> 05:37:19.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sinara,

asr-004933
05:37:19.680 --> 05:37:21.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Red Hill fuel,

asr-004934
05:37:21.680 --> 05:37:23.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fuel depot,

asr-004935
05:37:23.180 --> 05:37:24.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinara,

asr-004936
05:37:24.500 --> 05:37:25.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dinala po sa Subic.

asr-004937
05:37:26.900 --> 05:37:27.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay?

asr-004938
05:37:28.660 --> 05:37:29.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway,

asr-004939
05:37:29.620 --> 05:37:30.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: my point being,

asr-004940
05:37:31.360 --> 05:37:31.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay,

asr-004941
05:37:33.260 --> 05:37:35.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the event of war,

asr-004942
05:37:35.860 --> 05:37:36.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ayaw natin ng gera,

asr-004943
05:37:37.140 --> 05:37:38.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero ang US mismo,

asr-004944
05:37:40.280 --> 05:37:41.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya nga may Paxilica,

asr-004945
05:37:42.060 --> 05:37:42.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinasabi nila,

asr-004946
05:37:43.440 --> 05:37:44.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paghahanda ito sa gera

asr-004947
05:37:44.780 --> 05:37:45.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: laban sa China.

asr-004948
05:37:47.300 --> 05:37:47.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-004949
05:37:48.500 --> 05:37:51.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: US must secure its supply chains.

asr-004950
05:37:51.680 --> 05:37:54.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Because almost all the manufacturing

asr-004951
05:37:54.080 --> 05:37:55.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is coming from China.

asr-004952
05:37:55.760 --> 05:37:57.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so pag nagkaroon po ng gera

asr-004953
05:37:57.480 --> 05:37:59.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against,

asr-004954
05:37:59.640 --> 05:38:01.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang US laban sa China,

asr-004955
05:38:02.740 --> 05:38:03.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh,

asr-004956
05:38:03.620 --> 05:38:05.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: batay sa nangyari sa Iran,

asr-004957
05:38:05.180 --> 05:38:05.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: definitely,

asr-004958
05:38:06.640 --> 05:38:08.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: target na po ang Subic.

asr-004959
05:38:10.120 --> 05:38:11.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You can bet on that.

asr-004960
05:38:12.040 --> 05:38:13.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, alam na rin ito ng US.

asr-004961
05:38:14.220 --> 05:38:14.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is why

asr-004962
05:38:14.980 --> 05:38:16.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the US

asr-004963
05:38:16.760 --> 05:38:18.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: now has a project

asr-004964
05:38:18.660 --> 05:38:20.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to

asr-004965
05:38:20.100 --> 05:38:20.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004966
05:38:21.680 --> 05:38:23.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to invest in

asr-004967
05:38:23.700 --> 05:38:25.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a fuel depot

asr-004968
05:38:25.460 --> 05:38:26.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in Davao,

asr-004969
05:38:26.840 --> 05:38:27.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the Davao Gulf.

asr-004970
05:38:29.300 --> 05:38:31.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil sabi mismo ng mga dokumento ng US,

asr-004971
05:38:31.880 --> 05:38:33.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: vulnerable tayo sa Subic,

asr-004972
05:38:33.820 --> 05:38:35.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gumawa tayo ng fuel depot sa Davao.

asr-004973
05:38:36.680 --> 05:38:37.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, alam ito ng US.

asr-004974
05:38:38.080 --> 05:38:39.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinaghahandaan na ito ng US.

asr-004975
05:38:39.900 --> 05:38:40.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang tanong ko po

asr-004976
05:38:40.900 --> 05:38:42.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Subic,

asr-004977
05:38:42.740 --> 05:38:44.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa SBMA,

asr-004978
05:38:45.300 --> 05:38:45.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay,

asr-004979
05:38:46.840 --> 05:38:47.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang kapasidad nyo

asr-004980
05:38:47.940 --> 05:38:50.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: para protektahan at depensahan

asr-004981
05:38:50.640 --> 05:38:51.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang airfields,

asr-004982
05:38:51.680 --> 05:38:52.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang SBMA

asr-004983
05:38:52.460 --> 05:38:54.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: against

asr-004984
05:38:54.180 --> 05:38:55.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004985
05:38:55.020 --> 05:38:56.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: military attack

asr-004986
05:38:56.040 --> 05:38:57.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in case of

asr-004987
05:38:57.780 --> 05:38:59.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a war between

asr-004988
05:38:59.120 --> 05:39:00.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: US and China.

asr-004989
05:39:01.020 --> 05:39:01.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Under the SBMA,

asr-004990
05:39:02.280 --> 05:39:02.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-004991
05:39:02.500 --> 05:39:03.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: under the

asr-004992
05:39:03.220 --> 05:39:04.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Special Economic Zone Law,

asr-004993
05:39:05.340 --> 05:39:06.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung security,

asr-004994
05:39:07.100 --> 05:39:08.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: securing the zone,

asr-004995
05:39:08.700 --> 05:39:09.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is responsibility

asr-004996
05:39:09.520 --> 05:39:11.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the national government.

asr-004997
05:39:11.680 --> 05:39:12.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-004998
05:39:12.900 --> 05:39:13.920
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-004999
05:39:14.040 --> 05:39:14.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes.

asr-005000
05:39:14.540 --> 05:39:15.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano po ang kakayahan

asr-005001
05:39:16.460 --> 05:39:17.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng SBMA

asr-005002
05:39:18.340 --> 05:39:18.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na protektahan?

asr-005003
05:39:19.560 --> 05:39:20.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For example,

asr-005004
05:39:20.240 --> 05:39:20.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung,

asr-005005
05:39:20.420 --> 05:39:21.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung fuel depot,

asr-005006
05:39:21.680 --> 05:39:22.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Subic.

asr-005007
05:39:23.380 --> 05:39:23.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi ko nga,

asr-005008
05:39:23.880 --> 05:39:24.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magkakatabi nyo,

asr-005009
05:39:24.620 --> 05:39:26.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung tanke para sa US Navy

asr-005010
05:39:26.180 --> 05:39:27.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at yung reserve.

asr-005011
05:39:29.020 --> 05:39:30.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 20 billion pesos

asr-005012
05:39:30.220 --> 05:39:32.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na diesel

asr-005013
05:39:32.340 --> 05:39:34.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na binili

asr-005014
05:39:34.140 --> 05:39:36.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng PNOC

asr-005015
05:39:36.640 --> 05:39:38.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at the height of the

asr-005016
05:39:38.260 --> 05:39:39.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: energy crisis,

asr-005017
05:39:40.300 --> 05:39:41.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang malaking bahagi nyo,

asr-005018
05:39:41.800 --> 05:39:42.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nandyan.

asr-005019
05:39:43.320 --> 05:39:43.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-005020
05:39:44.360 --> 05:39:45.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ang kakayahan

asr-005021
05:39:45.380 --> 05:39:48.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng SBMA

asr-005022
05:39:48.040 --> 05:39:49.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na protektahan

asr-005023
05:39:49.380 --> 05:39:50.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga pasilidad na ito?

asr-005024
05:39:50.980 --> 05:39:51.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: May kakayahan ba?

asr-005025
05:39:51.680 --> 05:39:54.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, Madam Speaker,

asr-005026
05:39:55.220 --> 05:39:59.280
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the mandate of SBMA

asr-005027
05:39:59.280 --> 05:40:02.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: is to generate revenues

asr-005028
05:40:02.200 --> 05:40:04.140
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and to attract investment.

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05:40:04.400 --> 05:40:05.060
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: That's one.

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05:40:05.680 --> 05:40:06.160
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Second,

asr-005031
05:40:06.960 --> 05:40:08.200
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: well, besides the fact

asr-005032
05:40:08.200 --> 05:40:10.180
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: that there is a military presence

asr-005033
05:40:10.180 --> 05:40:12.600
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: on the northern part of SBMA,

asr-005034
05:40:13.460 --> 05:40:14.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Philippine Navy,

asr-005035
05:40:14.680 --> 05:40:15.580
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: there's a presence

asr-005036
05:40:15.580 --> 05:40:16.620
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: of the Philippine Navy there,

asr-005037
05:40:17.040 --> 05:40:18.540
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: the SBMA also

asr-005038
05:40:18.540 --> 05:40:20.360
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: continually coordinates

asr-005039
05:40:20.360 --> 05:40:21.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with local institutions

asr-005040
05:40:21.680 --> 05:40:23.220
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and law enforcement agencies.

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05:40:23.640 --> 05:40:23.840
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay.

asr-005042
05:40:24.100 --> 05:40:24.580
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Kaya nga po,

asr-005043
05:40:24.660 --> 05:40:27.160
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ang daming maritime interdictions

asr-005044
05:40:27.160 --> 05:40:28.760
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: na nahuhuli.

asr-005045
05:40:29.300 --> 05:40:33.000
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Not just the espionage activities,

asr-005046
05:40:33.300 --> 05:40:35.380
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but even anti-smuggling

asr-005047
05:40:35.380 --> 05:40:36.860
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and anti-drug operations.

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05:40:37.080 --> 05:40:37.100
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Okay.

asr-005049
05:40:37.100 --> 05:40:37.220
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Oo.

asr-005050
05:40:37.740 --> 05:40:38.020
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So,

asr-005051
05:40:38.780 --> 05:40:40.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in terms of their capability

asr-005052
05:40:40.820 --> 05:40:43.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: as to how to protect themselves

asr-005053
05:40:43.120 --> 05:40:43.900
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: from attacks,

asr-005054
05:40:45.720 --> 05:40:47.320
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: palagi naman pong coordinated

asr-005055
05:40:47.320 --> 05:40:50.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: ang SBMA sa AFP,

asr-005056
05:40:50.720 --> 05:40:51.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: sa iba't iba po po natin,

asr-005057
05:40:51.680 --> 05:40:54.740
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: mga law enforcement agencies.

asr-005058
05:40:55.340 --> 05:40:56.260
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Besides that,

asr-005059
05:40:56.740 --> 05:40:59.100
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: meron silang intelligence office,

asr-005060
05:40:59.840 --> 05:41:01.520
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: so kasama dyan yung mga

asr-005061
05:41:01.520 --> 05:41:03.520
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: different intelligence agencies natin.

asr-005062
05:41:04.240 --> 05:41:06.140
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yun yung primary way

asr-005063
05:41:06.140 --> 05:41:08.120
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: in which pinaprotektahan ng SBMA

asr-005064
05:41:08.120 --> 05:41:08.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: yung sarili nila.

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05:41:09.180 --> 05:41:09.820
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Madam Speaker.

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05:41:10.340 --> 05:41:10.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005067
05:41:10.720 --> 05:41:11.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi po sa Section 9

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05:41:11.880 --> 05:41:14.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Special Economic Zone Law,

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05:41:15.200 --> 05:41:15.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ecozone Law,

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05:41:16.360 --> 05:41:16.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Section 9,

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05:41:16.940 --> 05:41:17.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Defense and Security,

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05:41:18.420 --> 05:41:19.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the Defense of the Ecozone

asr-005073
05:41:19.680 --> 05:41:21.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and the Security of its Perimeter Fence,

asr-005074
05:41:21.680 --> 05:41:23.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: shall be the responsibility

asr-005075
05:41:23.620 --> 05:41:25.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the National Government

asr-005076
05:41:25.440 --> 05:41:27.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in coordination with the PESA.

asr-005077
05:41:28.640 --> 05:41:29.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, essentially,

asr-005078
05:41:29.420 --> 05:41:31.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakadepende talaga sa National Government.

asr-005079
05:41:32.340 --> 05:41:33.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po bang

asr-005080
05:41:33.380 --> 05:41:35.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: drone defenses

asr-005081
05:41:35.500 --> 05:41:37.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang SBMA?

asr-005082
05:41:38.740 --> 05:41:39.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya pong

asr-005083
05:41:39.480 --> 05:41:41.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: protektahan sa drone?

asr-005084
05:41:42.320 --> 05:41:43.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pag inatake ng drone,

asr-005085
05:41:44.140 --> 05:41:44.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may depensa po?

asr-005086
05:41:45.760 --> 05:41:47.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang SBMA po, Madam Speaker,

asr-005087
05:41:48.220 --> 05:41:48.420
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: wala.

asr-005088
05:41:48.720 --> 05:41:48.960
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Pero,

asr-005089
05:41:48.960 --> 05:41:50.600
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: nag-coordinate po yung SBMA

asr-005090
05:41:50.600 --> 05:41:51.660
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: with the Philippine Navy.

asr-005091
05:41:51.680 --> 05:41:53.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Philippine Navy ang merong drone.

asr-005092
05:41:54.000 --> 05:41:55.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: E, anti-missile defense,

asr-005093
05:41:55.580 --> 05:41:57.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron po ba kaya na available

asr-005094
05:41:57.520 --> 05:41:58.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang

asr-005095
05:41:58.980 --> 05:42:00.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang

asr-005096
05:42:00.440 --> 05:42:02.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: SBMA?

asr-005097
05:42:02.640 --> 05:42:04.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para protektahan po yung fuel dito.

asr-005098
05:42:04.680 --> 05:42:06.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: E, pagka pinasabog yan,

asr-005099
05:42:07.700 --> 05:42:08.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala na tayong

asr-005100
05:42:08.500 --> 05:42:10.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reserbang langis.

asr-005101
05:42:11.180 --> 05:42:12.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Ang SBMA po ay wala,

asr-005102
05:42:13.140 --> 05:42:15.040
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: but ang Philippine Navy po ay meron.

asr-005103
05:42:15.300 --> 05:42:17.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron ang Philippine Navy.

asr-005104
05:42:18.040 --> 05:42:18.480
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Meron po.

asr-005105
05:42:18.840 --> 05:42:19.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron ba talaga?

asr-005106
05:42:19.520 --> 05:42:20.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Do we have?

asr-005107
05:42:21.680 --> 05:42:22.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Do we have such defenses?

asr-005108
05:42:26.140 --> 05:42:28.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinag-iisipan ba

asr-005109
05:42:28.140 --> 05:42:29.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng SBMA

asr-005110
05:42:29.960 --> 05:42:32.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang senaryo na ito?

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05:42:50.500 --> 05:42:51.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinag-iisipan po ba

asr-005113
05:42:51.520 --> 05:42:52.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng SBMA.

asr-005114
05:42:53.340 --> 05:42:55.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In other words, ano po, kung sakali,

asr-005115
05:42:55.960 --> 05:42:57.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know, scenario building,

asr-005116
05:42:58.000 --> 05:42:59.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung sakali, magkaroon

asr-005117
05:42:59.700 --> 05:43:01.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nga ng gera between US

asr-005118
05:43:01.180 --> 05:43:02.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and China,

asr-005119
05:43:03.580 --> 05:43:05.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the US government itself

asr-005120
05:43:05.220 --> 05:43:07.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is planning

asr-005121
05:43:07.640 --> 05:43:08.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for

asr-005122
05:43:08.980 --> 05:43:11.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a war

asr-005123
05:43:11.860 --> 05:43:13.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: with China in 2027.

asr-005124
05:43:13.800 --> 05:43:15.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang nasa mga national security

asr-005125
05:43:15.820 --> 05:43:17.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: documents ng US. Sabi nila, by

asr-005126
05:43:17.600 --> 05:43:19.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, ay

asr-005127
05:43:19.660 --> 05:43:20.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: posibleng

asr-005128
05:43:20.620 --> 05:43:25.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: militarily ay

asr-005129
05:43:25.080 --> 05:43:27.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isisikapin ang China

asr-005130
05:43:27.380 --> 05:43:29.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ma-integrate na

asr-005131
05:43:29.040 --> 05:43:30.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Taiwan.

asr-005132
05:43:31.600 --> 05:43:33.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung so-called

asr-005133
05:43:33.440 --> 05:43:35.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Taiwan contingency. So, sa ganung

asr-005134
05:43:35.700 --> 05:43:36.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: scenario,

asr-005135
05:43:36.520 --> 05:43:39.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027 po ang kanilang sinasabi,

asr-005136
05:43:39.840 --> 05:43:41.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ganung scenario,

asr-005137
05:43:42.520 --> 05:43:43.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at kung sakaling mawasak

asr-005138
05:43:43.880 --> 05:43:45.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po ang mga pasilidad

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05:43:45.440 --> 05:43:47.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ginagamit ng US sa

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05:43:47.500 --> 05:43:49.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Subic, yung

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05:43:49.280 --> 05:43:50.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: fuel depot,

asr-005142
05:43:50.100 --> 05:43:51.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga dry dock,

asr-005143
05:43:51.840 --> 05:43:52.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung

asr-005144
05:43:52.320 --> 05:43:55.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ship building facility,

asr-005145
05:43:56.620 --> 05:43:59.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga possibly, kung may mga

asr-005146
05:43:59.700 --> 05:44:01.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: data centers, yung mga warehouse,

asr-005147
05:44:02.400 --> 05:44:03.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on,

asr-005148
05:44:04.000 --> 05:44:05.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano pong magiging

asr-005149
05:44:05.500 --> 05:44:06.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: epekto nun?

asr-005150
05:44:11.260 --> 05:44:13.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano kaya magiging epekto nun sa

asr-005151
05:44:13.440 --> 05:44:16.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: SBMA at sa larger economy?

asr-005152
05:44:17.060 --> 05:44:17.900
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, yung kita

asr-005153
05:44:17.900 --> 05:44:19.900
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: po ng SBMA, definitely

asr-005154
05:44:19.900 --> 05:44:21.900
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: bababa po yun kung nangyari po yun.

asr-005155
05:44:22.200 --> 05:44:23.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: So, in turn, may negative

asr-005156
05:44:23.980 --> 05:44:25.460
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: effect po yun sa...

asr-005157
05:44:25.460 --> 05:44:27.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It would have a major effect, katulad nung sinabi

asr-005158
05:44:27.580 --> 05:44:29.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: niyo kanina, at least 50 billion

asr-005159
05:44:29.920 --> 05:44:31.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a year, ang contribution sa

asr-005160
05:44:31.800 --> 05:44:32.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ekonomiya.

asr-005161
05:44:33.620 --> 05:44:35.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano po ang kailangan para ma

asr-005162
05:44:35.600 --> 05:44:37.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: restore,

asr-005163
05:44:37.900 --> 05:44:40.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma-rehabilitate kung sakaling ma-damage

asr-005164
05:44:40.080 --> 05:44:41.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang mga pasilidad na to?

asr-005165
05:44:42.640 --> 05:44:43.900
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: With the indulgence of our

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05:44:43.900 --> 05:44:45.580
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: distinguished colleague, please wrap up.

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05:44:46.740 --> 05:44:48.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker, I still

asr-005168
05:44:48.020 --> 05:44:48.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: have time.

asr-005169
05:44:49.900 --> 05:44:51.980
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, we have to quantify that

asr-005170
05:44:51.980 --> 05:44:52.800
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: given na may

asr-005171
05:44:52.800 --> 05:44:56.160
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: rebuilding of facilities

asr-005172
05:44:56.160 --> 05:44:57.960
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: and what not, but definitely

asr-005173
05:44:57.960 --> 05:44:58.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: a big...

asr-005174
05:44:58.940 --> 05:45:00.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It would be a big cost.

asr-005175
05:45:00.960 --> 05:45:06.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, definitely, dapat pag-isipan kung paano didipensahan nito. Tama po ba?

asr-005176
05:45:07.200 --> 05:45:07.940
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-005177
05:45:08.080 --> 05:45:17.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At sa ngayon, meron na po bang plano ang SBMA? Kaugnay niyan? Paano didipensahan ang mga ito?

asr-005178
05:45:22.300 --> 05:45:27.580
Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing: Well, in terms of defense strategy po, the SBMA defers to the Department of National Defense.

asr-005179
05:45:27.580 --> 05:45:32.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, Madam Speaker, siguro yun lang po ang pinakapunto natin dito.

asr-005180
05:45:34.660 --> 05:45:45.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang SBMA, ang BCDA, at ang Malacanang mismo ay talagang pinipresenta ang sarili dito sa Paxilica Initiative.

asr-005181
05:45:46.840 --> 05:45:54.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kanina narinig natin sa BCDA, nag-offer na, dalawang taon libre, walang renta sa lupa, 1,600 hectares.

asr-005182
05:45:55.900 --> 05:45:57.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tinanggap na ng US.

asr-005183
05:45:57.580 --> 05:46:01.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Samantalang wala pa namang anumang konkretong commitment ng US.

asr-005184
05:46:02.180 --> 05:46:02.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba?

asr-005185
05:46:03.220 --> 05:46:09.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We accept. Pero kami, wala. Nothing. Wala naman. Puro laway pa lang.

asr-005186
05:46:11.160 --> 05:46:14.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ganun po ka-atat na atat.

asr-005187
05:46:14.940 --> 05:46:26.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang ating, ang administrasyong ito, at ang SBMA, aminado sila na napakalaki ng presensya ng US military

asr-005188
05:46:26.460 --> 05:46:27.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa napakahalagang

asr-005189
05:46:27.580 --> 05:46:32.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: economic infrastructure na ito.

asr-005190
05:46:33.560 --> 05:46:37.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang sinasabi po natin, hindi na po hypothetical.

asr-005191
05:46:38.340 --> 05:46:45.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung sakaling magkaroon ng gera sa pagitan ng US at China, at ito ang pinag-ahandaan ng US,

asr-005192
05:46:46.720 --> 05:46:50.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya nga sila nagpapalaki ng presensya dyan sa Subic,

asr-005193
05:46:52.020 --> 05:46:55.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay may epekto po yan sa SBMA.

asr-005195
05:46:56.500 --> 05:46:57.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005196
05:46:57.020 --> 05:46:58.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kayo po ang, ay mawawasak.

asr-005197
05:46:59.800 --> 05:47:08.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi na po hypothetical yun dahil ganun ang nangyari sa mga bansa sa Gulf.

asr-005198
05:47:08.500 --> 05:47:08.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005199
05:47:08.720 --> 05:47:10.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In the so-called Gulf states.

asr-005200
05:47:10.540 --> 05:47:12.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, and so on.

asr-005201
05:47:13.400 --> 05:47:13.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005202
05:47:13.860 --> 05:47:19.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang mga yun may sariling kakayahan na depensa ng sarili and yet di kinaya.

asr-005203
05:47:20.320 --> 05:47:20.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nawasak.

asr-005204
05:47:20.940 --> 05:47:21.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba?

asr-005205
05:47:21.120 --> 05:47:22.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Katulad nung nakita natin kanina.

asr-005206
05:47:22.700 --> 05:47:24.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paano pa kaya ang Pilipinas?

asr-005207
05:47:24.000 --> 05:47:26.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, I understand.

asr-005208
05:47:26.000 --> 05:47:31.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I understand this is a policy question that goes beyond the SBMA.

asr-005209
05:47:31.900 --> 05:47:33.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: National issue na po ito.

asr-005210
05:47:33.880 --> 05:47:42.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero ang punto po natin ay tumataya ang Marcos Jr. Administration sa Paxilica na ito.

asr-005211
05:47:42.520 --> 05:47:45.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi, the whole Luzon Economic Corridor.

asr-005212
05:47:45.860 --> 05:47:54.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, not just Subic, but also Clark, pati yung sa Batangas, at iba pa na involved sa corridor na yan.

asr-005213
05:47:54.320 --> 05:47:54.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bataan.

asr-005214
05:47:54.960 --> 05:47:57.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakikita ko ang kasamahan natin from Bataan.

asr-005215
05:47:58.920 --> 05:48:00.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Damay po kayo dyan.

asr-005216
05:48:00.340 --> 05:48:01.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Damay tayong lahat dyan.

asr-005217
05:48:02.800 --> 05:48:11.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And if ever matuloy yung gera na pinag-aandaan ng US laban sa China,

asr-005218
05:48:12.000 --> 05:48:16.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nakataya po ay ang malaking bahagi ng ating ekonomiya.

asr-005219
05:48:16.920 --> 05:48:24.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kung sakaling mangyari yung nangyari sa Gulf states,

asr-005220
05:48:24.960 --> 05:48:29.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay babalik po tayo sa parang, in effect, parang pinatubo.

asr-005221
05:48:29.960 --> 05:48:37.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung ano yung nangyari sa Subic at Clark nung panahon ng pinatubo.

asr-005222
05:48:37.900 --> 05:48:38.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, ganun na po.

asr-005223
05:48:38.540 --> 05:48:40.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sagutin ko na sa inyo, anong mangyari dyan?

asr-005224
05:48:40.320 --> 05:48:41.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang pinatubo.

asr-005225
05:48:42.120 --> 05:48:46.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, that would set us back by practically two generations.

asr-005226
05:48:47.000 --> 05:48:48.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung sakaling mangyari po yun.

asr-005227
05:48:48.800 --> 05:48:54.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, the point here, Madam Speaker, is really to question,

asr-005228
05:48:54.960 --> 05:49:04.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the wisdom of this administration in betting on the so-called Pax Silitka

asr-005229
05:49:04.140 --> 05:49:10.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na ang bantapo ay sa pinaka-siguridad ng buhay ng mga Pilipino

asr-005230
05:49:10.940 --> 05:49:17.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at sa ekonomiya mismo at pag-unlad ng Pilipinas.

asr-005231
05:49:17.740 --> 05:49:24.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nang walang anumang pag-iisip at pag-aanda para sa depensa.

asr-005232
05:49:25.120 --> 05:49:25.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba?

asr-005233
05:49:26.080 --> 05:49:31.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po, with that, Madam Speaker, tatapusin ko na po ang aking interpellation.

asr-005234
05:49:31.260 --> 05:49:32.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po.

asr-005235
05:49:32.460 --> 05:49:33.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No to Pax Silica

asr-005236
05:49:34.780 --> 05:49:37.660
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do we hear the motion to terminate?

asr-005237
05:49:39.980 --> 05:49:42.020
Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, on the part of the minority.

asr-005238
05:49:43.500 --> 05:49:46.080
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tino, please proceed.

asr-005239
05:49:46.260 --> 05:49:47.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, yes. Okay.

asr-005240
05:49:47.840 --> 05:49:54.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker, there being no other member of the minority who wishes to interpolate,

asr-005241
05:49:54.960 --> 05:50:03.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I move to terminate the period of interpolation and debate on the proposed budget of the SBMA.

asr-005242
05:50:04.420 --> 05:50:05.280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-005243
05:50:06.100 --> 05:50:12.860
Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate

asr-005244
05:50:12.860 --> 05:50:16.900
Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan: the period of interpolation on the proposed budget of SPMA.

asr-005245
05:50:17.600 --> 05:50:24.200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority.

asr-005246
05:50:24.320 --> 05:50:24.940
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do we hear any objections?

asr-005248
05:50:26.400 --> 05:50:31.500
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none, the period of interpellation on the proposed budget of SPMA is hereby terminated.

asr-005249
05:50:32.360 --> 05:50:33.240
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-005250
05:50:38.100 --> 05:50:43.360
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Science and Technology.

asr-005251
05:50:44.500 --> 05:50:46.120
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Including its attached agencies.

asr-005252
05:50:46.480 --> 05:50:51.680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Science and Technology,

asr-005253
05:50:51.840 --> 05:50:53.180
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its attached agencies.

asr-005254
05:50:53.180 --> 05:50:54.700
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: And for this purpose,

asr-005255
05:50:54.960 --> 05:50:59.740
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Honorable Vice Chair, Loreto Amante, is hereby recognized to sponsor said agency.

asr-005256
05:51:07.660 --> 05:51:08.540
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

asr-005257
05:51:10.400 --> 05:51:14.260
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the first interpellator.

asr-005258
05:51:15.760 --> 05:51:16.280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Tinio.

asr-005259
05:51:17.180 --> 05:51:20.300
Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: The Congressman Tino of the Act Teachers Party.

asr-005260
05:51:20.300 --> 05:51:24.560
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Antonio Tino.

asr-005261
05:51:25.500 --> 05:51:27.960
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Is recognized for his interpolation.

asr-005262
05:51:39.500 --> 05:51:43.200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Honorable Tino is recognized for his interpellation.

asr-005263
05:51:44.920 --> 05:51:48.320
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Baka hindi na magtatal.

asr-005263-split-2
05:51:48.320 --> 05:51:48.940
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Ito, boss.

asr-005264
05:52:04.020 --> 05:52:09.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Chair, kung ready na po yung presentation.

asr-005265
05:52:09.320 --> 05:52:11.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The sponsor is ready?

asr-005266
05:52:11.280 --> 05:52:13.220
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes, I'm ready, Madam Chair.

asr-005267
05:52:14.160 --> 05:52:15.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para makapag-proceed na tayo.

asr-005268
05:52:17.160 --> 05:52:19.060
Rep. Amben S. Amante: I'm ready, Madam Speaker.

asr-005269
05:52:19.500 --> 05:52:24.120
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The technical person is directed to play the slides.

asr-005270
05:52:24.220 --> 05:52:26.280
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The presentation of the Hon. Tino.

asr-005271
05:52:27.020 --> 05:52:29.300
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: But prior to that, the Hon. Tino can...

asr-005272
05:52:29.300 --> 05:52:30.760
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There it is.

asr-005273
05:52:31.740 --> 05:52:32.420
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Okay.

asr-005274
05:52:33.320 --> 05:52:38.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, ang main question po natin sa budget ng DOST.

asr-005275
05:52:38.620 --> 05:52:45.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Una po, ito po yung budget ng DOST over a 10-year period,

asr-005276
05:52:45.040 --> 05:52:48.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: including the proposed budget for 2027.

asr-005277
05:52:51.020 --> 05:52:52.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Napansin po natin,

asr-005278
05:52:52.380 --> 05:52:55.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang tinakamalaking bahagi ng budget.

asr-005279
05:52:55.360 --> 05:52:56.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example,

asr-005280
05:52:57.700 --> 05:53:02.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the current proposed budget...

asr-005281
05:53:22.380 --> 05:53:35.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, the proposed budget for 2027 of the DOST is 6.868 Trillion Pesos.

asr-005282
05:53:37.160 --> 05:53:39.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang napansin lang po natin, of that,

asr-005283
05:53:41.340 --> 05:53:44.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: if you look at the breakdown of that budget,

asr-005284
05:53:46.480 --> 05:53:51.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: most of it is in the form of

asr-005285
05:53:51.200 --> 05:53:57.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: financial assistance and subsidy.

asr-005286
05:53:57.280 --> 05:54:02.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of the 6.8 billion,

asr-005287
05:54:02.920 --> 05:54:09.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 4.687 billion is listed under financial assistance or subsidy.

asr-005288
05:54:12.160 --> 05:54:17.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, yung chart po na yan,

asr-005289
05:54:17.460 --> 05:54:20.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinapakita yung paglaki

asr-005290
05:54:20.060 --> 05:54:21.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOST.

asr-005291
05:54:21.200 --> 05:54:24.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang budget, pero ang kalakhang bahagi talaga,

asr-005292
05:54:24.440 --> 05:54:25.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the blue portion,

asr-005293
05:54:26.360 --> 05:54:28.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is financial assistance and subsidy.

asr-005294
05:54:29.520 --> 05:54:32.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then, I look at the special provisions.

asr-005295
05:54:32.980 --> 05:54:36.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Usually, pagka may financial assistance and subsidy,

asr-005296
05:54:36.160 --> 05:54:38.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there should be a special provision

asr-005297
05:54:38.260 --> 05:54:45.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that lays down the parameters

asr-005298
05:54:45.760 --> 05:54:48.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the use of financial assistance and subsidy.

asr-005299
05:54:48.700 --> 05:54:49.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero wala po tayong nakikita.

asr-005300
05:54:49.980 --> 05:54:56.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa special provisions ng DOST budget ay,

asr-005301
05:54:56.980 --> 05:55:00.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: well, there is mention of a priority research program

asr-005302
05:55:00.980 --> 05:55:02.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then reporting and posting requirements.

asr-005303
05:55:02.980 --> 05:55:06.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pwede lang po ba malinaw,

asr-005304
05:55:06.980 --> 05:55:11.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bakit po yung napakalaking bahagi ng inyong budget

asr-005305
05:55:11.980 --> 05:55:15.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: over, let's say, 80% of your budget,

asr-005306
05:55:15.980 --> 05:55:18.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: from eyeballing the charts,

asr-005307
05:55:18.980 --> 05:55:23.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: falls under financial assistance slash subsidy.

asr-005308
05:55:23.980 --> 05:55:26.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Parang ang dating, actually, usually,

asr-005309
05:55:26.980 --> 05:55:29.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan yung terminong ginagamit sa ayuda.

asr-005310
05:55:29.980 --> 05:55:30.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba?

asr-005311
05:55:30.980 --> 05:55:31.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang mga scholarship.

asr-005312
05:55:31.980 --> 05:55:33.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit po ganun?

asr-005313
05:55:33.980 --> 05:55:36.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

asr-005314
05:55:36.980 --> 05:55:37.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: grants and aids po yan.

asr-005315
05:55:37.980 --> 05:55:38.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sorry?

asr-005316
05:55:38.980 --> 05:55:40.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Grants and aids.

asr-005317
05:55:40.980 --> 05:55:42.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, yun. Grants and aids.

asr-005318
05:55:42.980 --> 05:55:43.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005319
05:55:43.980 --> 05:55:47.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, all of the,

asr-005320
05:55:47.980 --> 05:55:51.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: grants and aids are under the Office of the Secretary.

asr-005321
05:55:51.980 --> 05:55:53.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Highly centralized po yung budget.

asr-005322
05:55:53.980 --> 05:56:00.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya po tinatawag na financial subsidy ay dahil sa,

asr-005323
05:56:00.980 --> 05:56:02.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ito ay mga grants and aids.

asr-005324
05:56:02.980 --> 05:56:07.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano po mga example ng grants and aids na ito?

asr-005325
05:56:07.980 --> 05:56:09.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At pwede po bang,

asr-005326
05:56:09.980 --> 05:56:13.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan lang, mabigyan tayo ng breakdown ng grants and aids?

asr-005327
05:56:13.980 --> 05:56:15.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Ah, yes.

asr-005328
05:56:15.980 --> 05:56:16.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker,

asr-005329
05:56:16.980 --> 05:56:17.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker,

asr-005330
05:56:17.980 --> 05:56:19.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah, distinguished colleague,

asr-005331
05:56:19.980 --> 05:56:20.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah,

asr-005332
05:56:20.980 --> 05:56:21.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: first,

asr-005333
05:56:21.980 --> 05:56:25.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah, napupunta po ito sa research and development,

asr-005334
05:56:25.980 --> 05:56:27.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: or R&amp;D,

asr-005335
05:56:27.980 --> 05:56:29.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah,

asr-005336
05:56:29.980 --> 05:56:31.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: CEST,

asr-005337
05:56:31.980 --> 05:56:33.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: ah, setup,

asr-005338
05:56:33.980 --> 05:56:36.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: at ah, smart and sustainable community,

asr-005339
05:56:36.980 --> 05:56:40.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: and ah, last is, ah, tax transfer.

asr-005340
05:56:40.980 --> 05:56:42.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005341
05:56:42.980 --> 05:56:44.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah,

asr-005342
05:56:44.980 --> 05:56:46.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sige, baka pwede po magma,

asr-005343
05:56:46.980 --> 05:56:51.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makapag-provide na lang ng, ah, breakdown nitong mga grants and aids

asr-005344
05:56:51.980 --> 05:56:54.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for 2026 and the proposed grants and aid,

asr-005345
05:56:54.980 --> 05:56:59.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: grants and aid for 2027.

asr-005346
05:56:59.980 --> 05:57:00.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay po ba yun?

asr-005347
05:57:00.980 --> 05:57:02.980
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes, of course, ah.

asr-005348
05:57:02.980 --> 05:57:03.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, thank you po.

asr-005349
05:57:03.980 --> 05:57:04.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Singis gulit.

asr-005350
05:57:04.980 --> 05:57:07.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, ngayon, during the budget briefings, ah,

asr-005351
05:57:07.980 --> 05:57:12.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isa po sa mga nakita natin at medyo nagtanong tayo ng konti ay tungkol sa, ah, plano ng DOL, ah,

asr-005352
05:57:12.980 --> 05:57:16.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: plano ng DOST para sa AI.

asr-005353
05:57:16.980 --> 05:57:17.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-005354
05:57:17.980 --> 05:57:21.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And the concept of, ah, AI sovereignty.

asr-005355
05:57:21.980 --> 05:57:22.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-005356
05:57:22.980 --> 05:57:23.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005357
05:57:23.980 --> 05:57:28.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede po bang mapaliwanag ng, ah, sponsor,

asr-005358
05:57:28.980 --> 05:57:34.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano yung plano ng DOST kaugnay dito sa development ng AI sovereignty

asr-005359
05:57:34.980 --> 05:57:41.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at magkano po yung, ah, ginamit na, nagastos na, at gagastusin in the proposed budget

asr-005360
05:57:41.980 --> 05:57:43.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to develop AI sovereignty?

asr-005361
05:57:43.980 --> 05:57:46.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba tong AI sovereignty in the first place?

asr-005364
05:58:05.980 --> 05:58:14.160
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

asr-005365
05:58:14.320 --> 05:58:20.080
Rep. Amben S. Amante: ang isa po sa mga dine-develop po ng DOST ngayon ay yung Research Data Center.

asr-005366
05:58:20.080 --> 05:58:39.000
Rep. Amben S. Amante: And also data digital transformation to fuel AI.

asr-005367
05:58:39.000 --> 05:58:46.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Pero tama po. So, Research in AI.

asr-005368
05:58:48.760 --> 05:58:49.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero yung konsepto nga.

asr-005369
05:58:50.080 --> 05:58:57.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang DOST kaugnay ng AI sovereignty. Parang meron pong ginagawa ang DOST kaugnay niyan.

asr-005370
05:58:57.980 --> 05:59:05.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ba yun? What does that mean? AI sovereignty at anong ginagawa ng DOST tungo rito?

asr-005371
05:59:12.600 --> 05:59:13.480
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Thank you.

asr-005372
05:59:15.480 --> 05:59:19.560
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the DOST-ASDI,

asr-005373
05:59:20.080 --> 05:59:27.240
Rep. Amben S. Amante: currently has the facilities for Research Data Center, Cloud Computing, and HPC.

asr-005374
05:59:27.240 --> 05:59:39.540
Rep. Amben S. Amante: At an average of operational utilization at 33%, consisting of 38 storage servers, 22 compute servers,

asr-005375
05:59:39.800 --> 05:59:49.880
Rep. Amben S. Amante: and 10 GPU servers to ensure operational and services that AI infrastructure is currently being set up in a data center.

asr-005376
05:59:49.880 --> 05:59:57.620
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Within Metro Manila, within 24 H200 GPUs at 1248 CPU cores.

asr-005377
06:00:00.180 --> 06:00:03.860
Rep. Amben S. Amante: 11,264 gigabytes RAM,

asr-005378
06:00:04.060 --> 06:00:11.720
Rep. Amben S. Amante: and 1,574 terabytes storage.

asr-005379
06:00:12.860 --> 06:00:15.960
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Well, thank you for that detailed answer.

asr-005380
06:00:16.440 --> 06:00:22.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung pwede po, mahingi ko yung return para mabalikan natin. Maraming information po yung binibigay nyo.

asr-005381
06:00:22.380 --> 06:00:28.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sa isensya ang sinasabi nyo po, dito sa Metro Manila, meti na yung data center.

asr-005382
06:00:28.100 --> 06:00:33.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI data center ang DOST na merong sariling kapasidad.

asr-005383
06:00:34.540 --> 06:00:43.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung binanggit nyo, how many GPUs yung nandyan, yung capacity, yung storage, and so on and so forth. Tama po?

asr-005384
06:00:44.160 --> 06:00:47.960
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Tama po kayo, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

asr-005385
06:00:47.960 --> 06:00:53.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Ang ibig po sabihin yan, yung AI dito ay nasa Pilipinas.

asr-005386
06:00:53.340 --> 06:01:08.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No? Kasi yung siguro, alam natin, malaganap na ang paggamit ng AI, pero yung karaniwang ginagamit ng mga Pilipino ay nakabase sa ibang bansa yan at pag-aari ng ibang bansa, mainly US, also China.

asr-005387
06:01:09.340 --> 06:01:23.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba? For example, kung gumagamit ng chat GPT, ang mga server, mga computer, mga data center na nagpapatakbo nun ay nasa labas ng Pilipinas, pag-aari ng US.

asr-005388
06:01:23.340 --> 06:01:26.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ng mga kumpanya ng US, pinagkikitaan nila.

asr-005389
06:01:27.300 --> 06:01:28.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganun po, no?

asr-005390
06:01:28.080 --> 06:01:48.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya nga po, mahalaga yung ginagawa ng DOST dahil sinasabi ng marami, magiging importanteng teknolohiya ang AI, importante na may sarili tayong kapasidad sa loob ng bansa para sa AI.

asr-005391
06:01:48.740 --> 06:01:52.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At yung binanggit na data center na pinagkakitaan.

asr-005392
06:01:53.340 --> 06:01:57.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagpapatakbo ngayon ng DOST ay bahagi nun, diba?

asr-005393
06:01:58.340 --> 06:02:06.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para kahit maputulan tayo ng access sa AI ng US, meron tayo dito.

asr-005394
06:02:07.340 --> 06:02:09.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama? Tama po ba? Ganun po ba?

asr-005395
06:02:09.780 --> 06:02:10.060
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes.

asr-005396
06:02:10.760 --> 06:02:11.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005397
06:02:11.400 --> 06:02:12.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker.

asr-005398
06:02:12.180 --> 06:02:13.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alright. Okay.

asr-005399
06:02:13.020 --> 06:02:23.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, makano yung budget na for 2026 na inilaan dyan at para sa 2027?

asr-005400
06:02:23.340 --> 06:02:24.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano ang hinihingi ninyo?

asr-005401
06:02:25.940 --> 06:02:28.340
Rep. Amben S. Amante: For 2027, 300...

asr-005402
06:02:28.860 --> 06:02:30.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 po muna. 2026.

asr-005403
06:02:30.560 --> 06:02:36.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Makano na po yung binadjet dyan? Kung meron man. 2026 and then 2027.

asr-005404
06:02:37.940 --> 06:02:40.340
Rep. Amben S. Amante: 200 million, Madam Speaker, this year.

asr-005405
06:02:41.040 --> 06:02:42.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This year, 200 million?

asr-005406
06:02:43.460 --> 06:02:43.740
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Correct.

asr-005407
06:02:44.320 --> 06:02:45.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And for next year?

asr-005408
06:02:46.520 --> 06:02:47.680
Rep. Amben S. Amante: 345 million.

asr-005409
06:02:47.680 --> 06:02:51.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 345 million as investment in our own...

asr-005410
06:02:53.340 --> 06:02:56.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI capacity, kumbaga. Parang ganun.

asr-005411
06:02:56.980 --> 06:02:57.200
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes.

asr-005412
06:02:57.240 --> 06:03:02.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos yung mga AI model na ginagamit, ano yun? Open source po ba yan? Paano yan?

asr-005413
06:03:04.540 --> 06:03:06.100
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Open source, Madam Speaker.

asr-005414
06:03:06.140 --> 06:03:12.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Open source model. Siyempre, hindi pwedeng gamitin natin yung closed source models, kaya nga closed source eh.

asr-005415
06:03:14.460 --> 06:03:18.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Commercially, privately owned ng open AI, anthropic, et cetera.

asr-005416
06:03:19.600 --> 06:03:19.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005417
06:03:19.820 --> 06:03:22.820
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po? If I may ask, ano yung mga...

asr-005418
06:03:23.340 --> 06:03:27.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Open source models na pinagbabataya ng inyong...

asr-005419
06:03:27.240 --> 06:03:29.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng inyong dine-develop na AI?

asr-005420
06:03:39.260 --> 06:03:42.840
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Mga local large language, Madam Speaker.

asr-005421
06:03:42.840 --> 06:03:47.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, local large language models, pero these large language models usually may mga...

asr-005422
06:03:48.720 --> 06:03:51.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may mga kilala eh, na ginagamit.

asr-005423
06:03:52.560 --> 06:03:52.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, for example...

asr-005424
06:03:53.340 --> 06:03:57.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Lama. Iyan yung ginawa ng Meta, pero open source.

asr-005425
06:03:58.060 --> 06:04:06.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon, actually, ang mga pinaka-mahalagang open source models are the ones developed by Chinese companies, no?

asr-005426
06:04:06.240 --> 06:04:14.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Like Quen, Kimi, iyan yung mga ilang open source models.

asr-005427
06:04:14.580 --> 06:04:16.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po ang ginagamit ng...

asr-005428
06:04:16.340 --> 06:04:19.820
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker, we are using Opus.

asr-005429
06:04:20.260 --> 06:04:20.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sorry?

asr-005430
06:04:20.940 --> 06:04:21.420
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Opus.

asr-005431
06:04:23.340 --> 06:04:24.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakiulit po.

asr-005432
06:04:24.360 --> 06:04:24.880
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Opus.

asr-005433
06:04:25.920 --> 06:04:26.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opus.

asr-005434
06:04:26.900 --> 06:04:27.260
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Yes.

asr-005435
06:04:27.740 --> 06:04:28.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opus.

asr-005436
06:04:29.960 --> 06:04:32.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Opus, as far as I know, is proprietary.

asr-005437
06:04:33.420 --> 06:04:35.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Claude, hindi po ba? Anthropic po yun, ha?

asr-005438
06:04:46.060 --> 06:04:50.340
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Is it okay, Madam Speaker, na we can send the details to the Office of...

asr-005439
06:04:50.340 --> 06:04:53.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, sige. Detail na lang po. O, sige. Importante po. Mahalaga.

asr-005440
06:04:53.340 --> 06:04:55.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkaroon tayo ng...

asr-005441
06:04:55.460 --> 06:04:57.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I mean, at least, sige. Huwag na po sa plenaryo.

asr-005442
06:04:58.260 --> 06:05:01.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibigay na lang po yung mas technical na detalye kaugnay nito.

asr-005443
06:05:02.000 --> 06:05:02.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005444
06:05:03.000 --> 06:05:09.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, at least, meron pong initiative and effort ng DOST to develop...

asr-005445
06:05:11.160 --> 06:05:15.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let's call it local AI.

asr-005446
06:05:16.180 --> 06:05:16.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-005447
06:05:17.060 --> 06:05:19.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ibig sabihin nun, kailangan may sarili kang data center

asr-005448
06:05:19.800 --> 06:05:23.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at meron kang sariling large language.

asr-005449
06:05:23.340 --> 06:05:25.180
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Large language models na gagamitin.

asr-005450
06:05:25.820 --> 06:05:26.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005451
06:05:26.960 --> 06:05:30.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Now, let me go to Paxilica again.

asr-005452
06:05:31.660 --> 06:05:35.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam natin, as far as we know, hindi directly involved ang DOST dyan.

asr-005453
06:05:35.860 --> 06:05:36.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-005454
06:05:36.840 --> 06:05:38.400
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Tama po, Madam Speaker.

asr-005455
06:05:38.680 --> 06:05:47.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: However, Paxilica, as an initiative, is involved with AI, among others.

asr-005456
06:05:47.920 --> 06:05:48.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005457
06:05:48.020 --> 06:05:48.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005458
06:05:50.100 --> 06:05:53.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung AI, advanced AI manufacturing.

asr-005459
06:05:53.340 --> 06:06:03.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And securing the critical mineral supply chain in order to develop AI.

asr-005460
06:06:04.580 --> 06:06:10.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig nila sabihin, yung mga critical minerals to develop the semiconductors,

asr-005461
06:06:10.880 --> 06:06:16.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the advanced GPUs, to be able to run, to develop and run

asr-005462
06:06:16.800 --> 06:06:22.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the most advanced artificial intelligence models.

asr-005463
06:06:22.340 --> 06:06:23.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Models.

asr-005464
06:06:23.580 --> 06:06:23.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005465
06:06:23.940 --> 06:06:30.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dahil ang paniniwala ng US, kung sino ang may pinaka-advancing AI,

asr-005466
06:06:31.360 --> 06:06:37.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: siya ay magkakaroon ng bentahe economically and militarily.

asr-005467
06:06:38.640 --> 06:06:42.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, kaya nagtutunggalian po ang US at China dito.

asr-005468
06:06:42.440 --> 06:06:51.800
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang ginagawa ng US ay pinagkakaitila sa China yung mga pinaka-advanced na AI chips.

asr-005469
06:06:52.200 --> 06:06:52.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-005470
06:06:52.340 --> 06:07:01.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, these are the export controls imposed by the US on advanced GPUs to China.

asr-005471
06:07:02.180 --> 06:07:10.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang ganti naman ng China ay pinagkakait nila sa US yung rare earth minerals na kailangan para ma-produce yun.

asr-005472
06:07:10.400 --> 06:07:11.580
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, nandyan po tayo ngayon.

asr-005473
06:07:11.720 --> 06:07:12.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya may Paxilica.

asr-005474
06:07:13.400 --> 06:07:13.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005475
06:07:13.940 --> 06:07:15.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Why do I mention Paxilica?

asr-005476
06:07:15.520 --> 06:07:19.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Because I would like to place on the record,

asr-005477
06:07:19.780 --> 06:07:21.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-005478
06:07:21.540 --> 06:07:22.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a recent,

asr-005479
06:07:22.340 --> 06:07:29.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a fairly recent speech of the US Undersecretary of State for Economic Affairs,

asr-005480
06:07:29.840 --> 06:07:30.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Jacob Helberg.

asr-005481
06:07:30.900 --> 06:07:33.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan, ilang beses siya nababanggit kanina pa,

asr-005482
06:07:34.200 --> 06:07:37.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil siya yung pangunahing arkitekto ng Paxilica,

asr-005483
06:07:37.780 --> 06:07:45.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at siya mismo yung pumunta dito sa Pilipinas para nga ma-inaugurate yung Paxilica sa New Clark City,

asr-005484
06:07:45.340 --> 06:07:52.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: siya yung nakapirma at counterpart ni BCDA President Bingkang,

asr-005485
06:07:52.340 --> 06:07:54.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sila yung nagpipirmahan.

asr-005486
06:07:54.340 --> 06:07:56.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito, Jacob Helberg.

asr-005487
06:07:56.340 --> 06:08:02.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, what does he have to say particularly about AI sovereignty or digital sovereignty?

asr-005488
06:08:02.340 --> 06:08:13.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po siyang speech published by the US State Department available on their website.

asr-005489
06:08:13.340 --> 06:08:19.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi ko alam kung may visual tayo dyan, pero it's not really necessary, I can just read it.

asr-005490
06:08:19.340 --> 06:08:21.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is dated June 25, 2020.

asr-005491
06:08:21.340 --> 06:08:30.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The title of this speech is the Digital Sovereignty Trap.

asr-005492
06:08:30.340 --> 06:08:31.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ayan.

asr-005493
06:08:31.340 --> 06:08:39.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ganito po, let me read into the record the words of the main architect of Paxilica.

asr-005494
06:08:39.340 --> 06:08:48.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Para alam po ng lahat ano ba ang pag-iisip talaga nung nagtutulak ng Paxilica na niyayakap ng Marcos Jr. Administration.

asr-005495
06:08:48.340 --> 06:08:50.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: These days,

asr-005496
06:08:50.340 --> 06:08:55.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: few words flatter a government like digital sovereignty.

asr-005497
06:08:55.340 --> 06:09:00.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It carries the music of independence, the dignity of self-rule,

asr-005498
06:09:00.340 --> 06:09:04.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the promise that the nation holds its own destiny in its hands.

asr-005499
06:09:04.340 --> 06:09:14.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So it is no surprise that the expression has been pressed into the service of a fashionable, fast-spreading policy debate.

asr-005500
06:09:14.340 --> 06:09:15.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005501
06:09:15.340 --> 06:09:18.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is a growing number of governments,

asr-005502
06:09:18.340 --> 06:09:24.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: persuaded that independence requires duplication,

asr-005503
06:09:24.340 --> 06:09:28.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a drafting national AI strategies to match.

asr-005504
06:09:28.340 --> 06:09:36.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Each resolved to rebuild inside its own borders a stack that already exists somewhere else.

asr-005505
06:09:36.340 --> 06:09:38.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang ginagawa ng DOST.

asr-005506
06:09:38.340 --> 06:09:42.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They are building a domestic AI stack.

asr-005507
06:09:42.340 --> 06:09:43.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Di ba?

asr-005508
06:09:43.340 --> 06:09:45.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung mga data center,

asr-005509
06:09:45.340 --> 06:09:46.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung equipment,

asr-005510
06:09:46.340 --> 06:09:47.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung hardware,

asr-005511
06:09:47.340 --> 06:09:48.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and also the software,

asr-005512
06:09:48.340 --> 06:09:50.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the large language models,

asr-005513
06:09:50.340 --> 06:09:51.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: open source.

asr-005514
06:09:51.340 --> 06:09:54.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ito yung tinutukoy ni Helberg.

asr-005515
06:09:54.340 --> 06:09:55.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O.

asr-005516
06:09:55.340 --> 06:09:57.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kayong mga ibang bansa,

asr-005517
06:09:57.340 --> 06:10:01.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you are scrambling to develop your own,

asr-005518
06:10:01.340 --> 06:10:03.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: within your own borders,

asr-005519
06:10:03.340 --> 06:10:05.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: your own AI stack.

asr-005520
06:10:05.340 --> 06:10:07.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What does he have to say about it?

asr-005521
06:10:07.340 --> 06:10:08.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Quote,

asr-005522
06:10:08.340 --> 06:10:10.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is a seductive vision.

asr-005523
06:10:10.340 --> 06:10:12.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is a seductive vision.

asr-005524
06:10:12.340 --> 06:10:16.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is also backward and counterproductive.

asr-005525
06:10:16.340 --> 06:10:19.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun ang sabi ni Helberg.

asr-005526
06:10:19.340 --> 06:10:21.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-005527
06:10:21.340 --> 06:10:23.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: picture this conference.

asr-005528
06:10:23.340 --> 06:10:24.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya,

asr-005529
06:10:24.340 --> 06:10:26.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: there is always a conference

asr-005530
06:10:26.340 --> 06:10:28.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: where 40 governments

asr-005531
06:10:28.340 --> 06:10:30.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: rise in turn

asr-005532
06:10:30.340 --> 06:10:32.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to pledge a sovereign cloud,

asr-005533
06:10:32.340 --> 06:10:34.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a sovereign model,

asr-005534
06:10:34.340 --> 06:10:38.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: a national champion of their very own.

asr-005535
06:10:38.340 --> 06:10:39.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig sabihin,

asr-005536
06:10:39.340 --> 06:10:40.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh, mga iba't ibang bansa,

asr-005537
06:10:40.340 --> 06:10:43.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gusto nila magkaroon ng sarili nilang AI.

asr-005538
06:10:43.340 --> 06:10:44.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005539
06:10:44.340 --> 06:10:47.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will applaud one another's independence.

asr-005540
06:10:47.340 --> 06:10:49.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Then they will go home

asr-005541
06:10:49.340 --> 06:10:51.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and pour billions

asr-005542
06:10:51.340 --> 06:10:53.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: into companies built to do

asr-005543
06:10:53.340 --> 06:10:57.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: precisely what 39 others are doing

asr-005544
06:10:57.340 --> 06:10:59.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in markets too small

asr-005545
06:10:59.340 --> 06:11:02.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to sustain even one of them.

asr-005546
06:11:02.340 --> 06:11:07.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Chasing margins that thin asymptotically toward nothing

asr-005547
06:11:07.340 --> 06:11:10.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the moment the next champion is announced.

asr-005548
06:11:10.340 --> 06:11:13.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will have achieved not so-called

asr-005549
06:11:13.340 --> 06:11:15.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: digital sovereignty

asr-005550
06:11:15.340 --> 06:11:19.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but a kind of synchronized mediocrity

asr-005551
06:11:19.340 --> 06:11:22.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: as planet of sub-scale clones

asr-005552
06:11:22.340 --> 06:11:26.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: each heroically reconstructing last year's breakthrough

asr-005553
06:11:26.340 --> 06:11:30.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: while the breakthrough itself moves on without them.

asr-005554
06:11:30.340 --> 06:11:32.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, pinagtatawanan po ni Helberg

asr-005555
06:11:32.340 --> 06:11:34.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung ginagawa ng DOST.

asr-005556
06:11:34.340 --> 06:11:35.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya,

asr-005557
06:11:35.340 --> 06:11:36.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hibang kayo,

asr-005558
06:11:36.340 --> 06:11:37.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nag-i-invest kayo.

asr-005559
06:11:37.340 --> 06:11:39.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In this case, ang hinihingi niyo po,

asr-005560
06:11:39.340 --> 06:11:41.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: magkano nga po ulit yung hinihingi niyo?

asr-005561
06:11:41.340 --> 06:11:42.340
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Ah,

asr-005562
06:11:42.340 --> 06:11:43.340
Rep. Amben S. Amante: 300 million.

asr-005563
06:11:43.340 --> 06:11:44.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 300 million.

asr-005564
06:11:44.340 --> 06:11:45.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This year, 600.

asr-005565
06:11:45.340 --> 06:11:46.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No, 300.

asr-005566
06:11:46.340 --> 06:11:47.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinagtatawanan ni Helberg.

asr-005567
06:11:47.340 --> 06:11:48.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya,

asr-005568
06:11:48.340 --> 06:11:49.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga hibang kayo,

asr-005569
06:11:49.340 --> 06:11:52.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: gumagawa kayo ng sarili nyong AI.

asr-005570
06:11:52.340 --> 06:11:53.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005571
06:11:53.340 --> 06:11:54.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah,

asr-005572
06:11:54.340 --> 06:11:55.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what does he have to say?

asr-005573
06:11:55.340 --> 06:11:56.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi niya rito,

asr-005574
06:11:56.340 --> 06:11:58.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: he's laughing at digital sovereignty

asr-005575
06:11:58.340 --> 06:12:00.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and then he says,

asr-005576
06:12:00.340 --> 06:12:02.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: while others rebuild the present,

asr-005577
06:12:02.340 --> 06:12:04.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: American firms

asr-005578
06:12:04.340 --> 06:12:07.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: will be inventing the future.

asr-005579
06:12:07.340 --> 06:12:09.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oh.

asr-005580
06:12:09.340 --> 06:12:11.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will not be defending yesterday's platform.

asr-005581
06:12:11.340 --> 06:12:16.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: They will be shipping tomorrow's.

asr-005582
06:12:16.340 --> 06:12:17.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah,

asr-005583
06:12:17.340 --> 06:12:18.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the products that do not yet exist

asr-005584
06:12:18.340 --> 06:12:20.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that no committee in Geneva,

asr-005585
06:12:20.340 --> 06:12:21.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: UN,

asr-005586
06:12:21.340 --> 06:12:23.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: has thought to subsidize

asr-005587
06:12:23.340 --> 06:12:25.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that will define the coming decade

asr-005588
06:12:25.340 --> 06:12:28.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: before the clones have finished cloning

asr-005589
06:12:28.340 --> 06:12:30.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the last one.

asr-005590
06:12:30.340 --> 06:12:33.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: And because they will stand alone at the frontier,

asr-005591
06:12:33.340 --> 06:12:35.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they will keep what the frontier pays.

asr-005592
06:12:35.340 --> 06:12:36.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The fat margins,

asr-005593
06:12:36.340 --> 06:12:38.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the soaring valuations,

asr-005594
06:12:38.340 --> 06:12:40.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the commanding heights of the global economy.

asr-005595
06:12:40.340 --> 06:12:44.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is not an accident of American luck.

asr-005596
06:12:44.340 --> 06:12:48.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It is the iron arithmetic of zero to one.

asr-005597
06:12:48.340 --> 06:12:51.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is the distinction the sovereignty evangelists miss

asr-005598
06:12:51.340 --> 06:12:54.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and it is the whole game.

asr-005599
06:12:54.340 --> 06:12:56.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005600
06:12:56.340 --> 06:12:59.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This is the logic behind Pax Silica.

asr-005601
06:12:59.340 --> 06:13:00.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyon ang sinasabi niya.

asr-005602
06:13:00.340 --> 06:13:02.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Basically ang sinasabi po,

asr-005603
06:13:02.340 --> 06:13:03.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: oh mga baliw kayo,

asr-005604
06:13:03.340 --> 06:13:05.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kayong mga maliliit na bansa,

asr-005605
06:13:05.340 --> 06:13:06.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naga-ambisyon kayo

asr-005606
06:13:06.340 --> 06:13:08.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na meron din kayong sariling AI.

asr-005607
06:13:08.340 --> 06:13:09.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005608
06:13:09.340 --> 06:13:12.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang pinakabanting AI ay yung sa amin.

asr-005609
06:13:12.340 --> 06:13:15.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung pag-aari ng mga Amerikano.

asr-005610
06:13:15.340 --> 06:13:19.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya huwag na kayong mag-aksaya ng pera at panahon nyo.

asr-005611
06:13:19.340 --> 06:13:22.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sumama na kayo sa Pax Silica.

asr-005612
06:13:22.340 --> 06:13:24.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At bayaran nyo.

asr-005613
06:13:24.340 --> 06:13:27.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bilhin nyo ang AI ng mga kumpanyang Amerikano.

asr-005614
06:13:27.340 --> 06:13:33.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyon po ang sinasabi ni Helberg.

asr-005615
06:13:33.340 --> 06:13:34.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005616
06:13:34.340 --> 06:13:37.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah.

asr-005617
06:13:37.340 --> 06:13:38.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-005618
06:13:38.340 --> 06:13:46.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the champions of digital sovereignty believe they are arming their nations for the future.

asr-005619
06:13:46.340 --> 06:13:47.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In truth,

asr-005620
06:13:47.340 --> 06:13:54.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: they are marching them in perfect and well-funded formation into the past.

asr-005621
06:13:54.340 --> 06:13:55.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005622
06:13:55.340 --> 06:13:56.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-005623
06:13:56.340 --> 06:13:57.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: okay.

asr-005624
06:13:57.340 --> 06:13:58.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tatapusin ko na po.

asr-005625
06:13:58.340 --> 06:14:00.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siguro nakuha nyo na yung point.

asr-005626
06:14:00.340 --> 06:14:01.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah.

asr-005627
06:14:01.340 --> 06:14:06.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Iyon po ang esensya at pilosopiya ng Pax Silica

asr-005628
06:14:06.340 --> 06:14:10.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: galing mismo sa pangunahing arkitekto nito.

asr-005629
06:14:10.340 --> 06:14:12.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Jacob Helberg.

asr-005630
06:14:12.340 --> 06:14:13.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba?

asr-005631
06:14:13.340 --> 06:14:14.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, sabi ko nga.

asr-005632
06:14:14.340 --> 06:14:16.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pinagtatawa na po ang DOST.

asr-005633
06:14:16.340 --> 06:14:20.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang mga inisiyatiba ng ibang mga bansa.

asr-005634
06:14:20.340 --> 06:14:24.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay, ba't kayo nag-aaksaya ng pera nyo sa sarili nyong AI?

asr-005635
06:14:24.340 --> 06:14:27.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ang pinakabanting AI ang AI ng mga Amerikano.

asr-005636
06:14:27.340 --> 06:14:30.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Upahan nyo nila.

asr-005637
06:14:30.340 --> 06:14:33.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Just buy from us, rent from us.

asr-005638
06:14:33.340 --> 06:14:34.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ganun nga po ang nangyayari.

asr-005639
06:14:34.340 --> 06:14:37.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For the most part,

asr-005640
06:14:37.340 --> 06:14:39.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-005641
06:14:39.340 --> 06:14:42.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maybe the DOST can confirm,

asr-005642
06:14:42.340 --> 06:14:45.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung mga government agencies po natin,

asr-005643
06:14:45.340 --> 06:14:49.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increasingly, lumalaking bahagi ng budget

asr-005644
06:14:49.340 --> 06:14:50.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: is ah,

asr-005645
06:14:50.340 --> 06:14:51.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI budget.

asr-005646
06:14:51.340 --> 06:14:52.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Budget for AI.

asr-005647
06:14:52.340 --> 06:14:53.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-005648
06:14:53.340 --> 06:14:54.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005649
06:14:54.340 --> 06:15:00.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano na po ang nakalaan para sa pagbili ng

asr-005650
06:15:00.120 --> 06:15:01.650
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mga subscriptions,

asr-005651
06:15:02.100 --> 06:15:03.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI subscriptions to

asr-005652
06:15:03.740 --> 06:15:07.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: US providers.

asr-005653
06:15:07.540 --> 06:15:09.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Does the DOST have information on that?

asr-005654
06:15:10.560 --> 06:15:11.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po ba?

asr-005655
06:15:14.240 --> 06:15:15.280
Rep. Amben S. Amante: Madam Speaker,

asr-005656
06:15:16.300 --> 06:15:17.140
Rep. Amben S. Amante: distinguished colleagues,

asr-005657
06:15:17.840 --> 06:15:18.600
Rep. Amben S. Amante: wala po.

asr-005658
06:15:18.740 --> 06:15:19.780
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala po, wala po.

asr-005659
06:15:19.880 --> 06:15:21.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O siguro sa DICT na lang yun.

asr-005660
06:15:22.060 --> 06:15:22.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005661
06:15:22.860 --> 06:15:24.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Daan-daang bilyon na po

asr-005662
06:15:24.000 --> 06:15:25.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nakalaan sa

asr-005663
06:15:25.560 --> 06:15:28.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI subscription services

asr-005664
06:15:28.000 --> 06:15:30.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: primarily to US

asr-005665
06:15:30.140 --> 06:15:31.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: providers.

asr-005666
06:15:32.640 --> 06:15:34.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kaya po, ako,

asr-005667
06:15:34.500 --> 06:15:35.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sinusuportahan ko

asr-005668
06:15:35.520 --> 06:15:37.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang ginagawa

asr-005669
06:15:37.940 --> 06:15:39.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOST

asr-005670
06:15:39.500 --> 06:15:40.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil napakahalaga.

asr-005671
06:15:41.460 --> 06:15:43.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At walang hiya po

asr-005672
06:15:43.320 --> 06:15:46.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang sinasabi nitong Helberg

asr-005673
06:15:46.520 --> 06:15:49.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na huwag nyo nang,

asr-005674
06:15:49.220 --> 06:15:50.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: huwag na kayong mag-aksaya

asr-005675
06:15:50.360 --> 06:15:52.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pag-invest

asr-005676
06:15:52.980 --> 06:15:54.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa sarili nyong AI.

asr-005677
06:15:54.880 --> 06:15:56.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Gamitin na lang natin

asr-005678
06:15:56.000 --> 06:15:57.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung sa mga Amerikano,

asr-005679
06:15:57.200 --> 06:15:57.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bayaran nyo sila.

asr-005680
06:15:58.000 --> 06:15:58.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005681
06:15:59.640 --> 06:16:00.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya po,

asr-005682
06:16:00.640 --> 06:16:01.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in the end,

asr-005683
06:16:01.340 --> 06:16:01.900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker,

asr-005684
06:16:02.500 --> 06:16:03.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: we support

asr-005685
06:16:03.200 --> 06:16:05.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the investment

asr-005686
06:16:05.020 --> 06:16:06.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in

asr-005687
06:16:06.020 --> 06:16:07.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: developing

asr-005688
06:16:07.520 --> 06:16:08.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the domestic

asr-005689
06:16:08.880 --> 06:16:10.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI

asr-005690
06:16:10.040 --> 06:16:11.200
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: stack.

asr-005691
06:16:11.900 --> 06:16:12.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005692
06:16:12.920 --> 06:16:14.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hardware and software,

asr-005693
06:16:14.720 --> 06:16:15.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: infrastructure

asr-005694
06:16:15.340 --> 06:16:16.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and

asr-005695
06:16:16.600 --> 06:16:18.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: software

asr-005696
06:16:18.480 --> 06:16:20.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at,

asr-005697
06:16:20.700 --> 06:16:21.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and we reject

asr-005698
06:16:21.540 --> 06:16:23.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the

asr-005699
06:16:23.400 --> 06:16:24.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: very

asr-005700
06:16:24.600 --> 06:16:27.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: logic

asr-005701
06:16:27.040 --> 06:16:27.980
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Paxilic.

asr-005702
06:16:28.000 --> 06:16:29.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya kinukundi na po natin

asr-005703
06:16:29.560 --> 06:16:30.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang administrasyong ito

asr-005704
06:16:30.940 --> 06:16:32.700
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil sinasalaksak

asr-005705
06:16:32.700 --> 06:16:35.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa sambayan ng Pilipino

asr-005706
06:16:35.500 --> 06:16:37.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang isang kasunduan

asr-005707
06:16:37.320 --> 06:16:38.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na yung pangunahing

asr-005708
06:16:38.720 --> 06:16:40.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagtutulak mismo nito

asr-005709
06:16:40.880 --> 06:16:43.480
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay pinagtatawanan

asr-005710
06:16:43.480 --> 06:16:45.940
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang pagsisikap

asr-005711
06:16:45.940 --> 06:16:48.220
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na mag-develop

asr-005712
06:16:48.220 --> 06:16:49.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng sariling

asr-005713
06:16:49.880 --> 06:16:51.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: abanteng teknolohiya

asr-005714
06:16:51.340 --> 06:16:53.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng bansang tulad ng

asr-005715
06:16:53.720 --> 06:16:54.440
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pilipinas.

asr-005716
06:16:55.440 --> 06:16:57.840
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paxilica will only mean

asr-005717
06:16:57.840 --> 06:16:59.660
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: further dependency

asr-005718
06:16:59.660 --> 06:17:02.240
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the advanced technology

asr-005719
06:17:02.240 --> 06:17:03.360
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the US

asr-005720
06:17:03.360 --> 06:17:04.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa halip na

asr-005721
06:17:04.520 --> 06:17:06.000
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung kasalukuyang

asr-005722
06:17:06.000 --> 06:17:07.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagawa ngayon

asr-005723
06:17:07.060 --> 06:17:09.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit papano

asr-005724
06:17:09.080 --> 06:17:10.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOST

asr-005725
06:17:10.120 --> 06:17:11.620
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on a small scale

asr-005726
06:17:11.620 --> 06:17:12.860
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to develop

asr-005727
06:17:12.860 --> 06:17:14.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: domestic

asr-005728
06:17:14.520 --> 06:17:15.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: AI

asr-005729
06:17:15.740 --> 06:17:17.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or sovereign AI.

asr-005730
06:17:17.840 --> 06:17:18.100
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-005731
06:17:18.740 --> 06:17:19.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hanggang doon na lamang po,

asr-005732
06:17:19.900 --> 06:17:20.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker.

asr-005733
06:17:21.040 --> 06:17:21.420
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Again,

asr-005734
06:17:22.320 --> 06:17:22.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibasura

asr-005735
06:17:22.920 --> 06:17:24.260
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Paxilica na yan.

asr-005736
06:17:25.040 --> 06:17:25.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat,

asr-005737
06:17:25.900 --> 06:17:26.400
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Speaker.

asr-005738
06:17:27.840 --> 06:17:29.100
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: May we hear

asr-005739
06:17:29.100 --> 06:17:30.380
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the necessary motion

asr-005740
06:17:30.380 --> 06:17:31.000
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: from the Honorable

asr-005741
06:17:31.000 --> 06:17:31.680
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yes, Madam Speaker.

asr-005742
06:17:32.540 --> 06:17:34.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: There being no other

asr-005743
06:17:34.060 --> 06:17:35.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: member of

asr-005744
06:17:35.040 --> 06:17:36.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the minority

asr-005745
06:17:36.500 --> 06:17:38.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that wishes to

asr-005746
06:17:38.040 --> 06:17:39.020
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: interpellate,

asr-005747
06:17:39.240 --> 06:17:40.340
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I therefore move

asr-005748
06:17:40.340 --> 06:17:42.120
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to terminate

asr-005749
06:17:42.120 --> 06:17:43.080
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the period

asr-005750
06:17:43.080 --> 06:17:44.060
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of interpellation

asr-005751
06:17:44.060 --> 06:17:44.600
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and debate

asr-005752
06:17:44.600 --> 06:17:45.540
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on the proposed

asr-005753
06:17:45.540 --> 06:17:46.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget

asr-005754
06:17:46.160 --> 06:17:47.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the DOST.

asr-005755
06:17:48.320 --> 06:17:48.790
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority leader

asr-005756
06:17:48.790 --> 06:17:51.140
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Including the attached agencies.

asr-005757
06:17:52.360 --> 06:17:52.940
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker,

asr-005758
06:17:53.080 --> 06:17:53.620
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: on the part of

asr-005759
06:17:53.620 --> 06:17:54.440
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the majority,

asr-005760
06:17:54.660 --> 06:17:55.640
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: we join the minority

asr-005761
06:17:55.640 --> 06:17:56.460
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: in the motion

asr-005762
06:17:56.460 --> 06:17:57.120
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to terminate

asr-005763
06:17:57.120 --> 06:17:57.560
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the period

asr-005764
06:17:57.560 --> 06:17:58.520
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of interpolations

asr-005765
06:17:58.520 --> 06:17:59.180
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and the proposed

asr-005766
06:17:59.180 --> 06:18:00.120
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: budget of

asr-005767
06:18:00.120 --> 06:18:02.780
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Department of Science

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Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and Technology,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: attached agencies.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: There's a joint

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: motion to terminate

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the period of

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: debate and interpellation

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and the proposed

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: budget of the

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Department of Science

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and Technology,

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: including its

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06:18:15.260 --> 06:18:16.100
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: attached agencies.

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06:18:16.300 --> 06:18:17.140
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Do I hear an objection?

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06:18:18.100 --> 06:18:18.680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none,

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06:18:18.780 --> 06:18:19.500
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: a joint motion

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06:18:19.500 --> 06:18:20.040
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is carried.

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06:18:21.340 --> 06:18:22.120
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The interpellation

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06:18:22.120 --> 06:18:22.660
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of the proposed

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06:18:22.660 --> 06:18:23.720
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: budget of DOST

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06:18:23.720 --> 06:18:24.480
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and its attached

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06:18:24.480 --> 06:18:25.160
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: agencies is

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06:18:25.160 --> 06:18:26.000
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: hereby terminated.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority,

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06:18:27.560 --> 06:18:28.000
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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06:18:28.380 --> 06:18:28.960
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker,

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06:18:29.160 --> 06:18:29.980
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to suspend

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06:18:29.980 --> 06:18:31.100
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: consideration

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06:18:31.100 --> 06:18:32.240
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: House Bill

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06:18:32.240 --> 06:18:33.540
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: number

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06:18:33.540 --> 06:18:35.480
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: 10858.

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06:18:35.760 --> 06:18:36.340
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Any objection?

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06:18:36.640 --> 06:18:37.060
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none,

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06:18:37.140 --> 06:18:37.860
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: consideration of

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06:18:37.860 --> 06:18:38.220
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: House Bill

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06:18:38.220 --> 06:18:39.160
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: 10858

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby suspended.

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06:18:40.760 --> 06:18:41.440
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority Leader.

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06:18:41.900 --> 06:18:42.400
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Madam Speaker,

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06:18:42.540 --> 06:18:43.400
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: I move to take up

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06:18:43.400 --> 06:18:44.280
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: additional reference

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06:18:44.280 --> 06:18:44.760
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: of business

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06:18:44.760 --> 06:18:45.460
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: and request

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06:18:45.460 --> 06:18:46.020
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: that the

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06:18:46.020 --> 06:18:46.840
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: Secretary General

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06:18:46.840 --> 06:18:47.600
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: be directed

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06:18:47.600 --> 06:18:48.600
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: to read

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06:18:48.600 --> 06:18:49.340
Rep. Daphne A. Lagon: the resolutions.

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06:18:50.780 --> 06:18:51.620
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: An objection.

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06:18:52.320 --> 06:18:52.880
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Hearing none,

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06:18:52.960 --> 06:18:53.700
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: the Secretary General

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06:18:53.700 --> 06:18:54.600
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: is hereby directed

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06:18:54.600 --> 06:18:55.320
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: to read the title

asr-005821
06:18:55.320 --> 06:18:55.760
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: of bills

asr-005822
06:18:55.760 --> 06:18:56.660
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and first reading

asr-005823
06:18:56.660 --> 06:18:57.540
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: as well,

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06:18:57.560 --> 06:18:58.400
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: as resolutions,

asr-005825
06:18:58.660 --> 06:18:59.360
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: messages,

asr-005826
06:18:59.680 --> 06:19:00.240
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: communications,

asr-005827
06:19:00.600 --> 06:19:01.480
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and committee reports.

asr-005828
06:19:03.380 --> 06:19:04.040
Secretary-General: Additional

asr-005829
06:19:04.040 --> 06:19:05.400
Secretary-General: additional reference

asr-005830
06:19:05.400 --> 06:19:05.960
Secretary-General: of business.

asr-005831
06:19:06.360 --> 06:19:07.480
Secretary-General: Bills on first reading.

asr-005832
06:19:08.100 --> 06:19:09.560
Secretary-General: House Bill 11372.

asr-005833
06:19:10.600 --> 06:19:11.220
Secretary-General: Upgrading the

asr-005834
06:19:11.220 --> 06:19:12.520
Secretary-General: Johnny Villanueva

asr-005835
06:19:12.520 --> 06:19:13.920
Secretary-General: General Hospital

asr-005836
06:19:13.920 --> 06:19:15.480
Secretary-General: in the Bukawi,

asr-005837
06:19:15.580 --> 06:19:15.980
Secretary-General: Bulacan

asr-005838
06:19:15.980 --> 06:19:16.460
Secretary-General: into a

asr-005839
06:19:16.460 --> 06:19:17.220
Secretary-General: Committee on Health.

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06:19:18.460 --> 06:19:19.860
Secretary-General: House Bill 11373

asr-005841
06:19:19.860 --> 06:19:20.460
Secretary-General: expanding the

asr-005842
06:19:20.460 --> 06:19:21.600
Secretary-General: lateral entry program

asr-005843
06:19:21.600 --> 06:19:22.400
Secretary-General: of the PNP

asr-005844
06:19:22.400 --> 06:19:23.340
Secretary-General: by Representative

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06:19:23.340 --> 06:19:23.840
Secretary-General: Dumogan.

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06:19:24.180 --> 06:19:24.800
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Public

asr-005847
06:19:24.800 --> 06:19:25.500
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Order and Safety.

asr-005848
06:19:26.040 --> 06:19:27.480
Secretary-General: House Bill 11374.

asr-005849
06:19:27.560 --> 06:19:28.260
Secretary-General: Strengthening the

asr-005850
06:19:28.260 --> 06:19:28.720
Secretary-General: protection,

asr-005851
06:19:28.720 --> 06:19:29.360
Secretary-General: conservation,

asr-005852
06:19:29.360 --> 06:19:30.320
Secretary-General: and sustainable

asr-005853
06:19:30.320 --> 06:19:31.000
Secretary-General: development of the

asr-005854
06:19:31.000 --> 06:19:31.860
Secretary-General: Sierra Madre Mountain

asr-005855
06:19:31.860 --> 06:19:32.560
Secretary-General: Range.

asr-005856
06:19:32.560 --> 06:19:33.720
Secretary-General: The Committee on Government

asr-005857
06:19:33.720 --> 06:19:34.440
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Enterprises and

asr-005858
06:19:34.440 --> 06:19:35.800
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Privatization.

asr-005859
06:19:35.800 --> 06:19:37.160
Secretary-General: House Bill 11375.

asr-005860
06:19:37.160 --> 06:19:37.840
Secretary-General: Providing for the

asr-005861
06:19:37.840 --> 06:19:38.800
Secretary-General: Philippine Medical Act

asr-005862
06:19:38.800 --> 06:19:39.400
Secretary-General: by Representative

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06:19:39.400 --> 06:19:40.400
Secretary-General: Corllantes.

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06:19:40.400 --> 06:19:41.200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Civil

asr-005865
06:19:41.200 --> 06:19:42.120
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Service and Professional

asr-005866
06:19:42.120 --> 06:19:42.640
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Regulation.

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06:19:42.640 --> 06:19:44.040
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Health.

asr-005868
06:19:44.040 --> 06:19:45.520
Secretary-General: House Bill 11376.

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06:19:45.520 --> 06:19:46.320
Secretary-General: Providing for the

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06:19:46.320 --> 06:19:47.880
Secretary-General: perpetual existence

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06:19:47.880 --> 06:19:48.400
Secretary-General: of the Philippine

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06:19:48.400 --> 06:19:49.160
Secretary-General: International Trade

asr-005873
06:19:49.160 --> 06:19:49.720
Secretary-General: Corporation

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06:19:49.720 --> 06:19:50.960
Secretary-General: by Representative

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06:19:50.960 --> 06:19:51.680
Secretary-General: Corllantes.

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06:19:51.680 --> 06:19:52.680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Government

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06:19:52.680 --> 06:19:53.360
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Enterprises and

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06:19:53.360 --> 06:19:54.680
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Privatization.

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06:19:54.680 --> 06:19:56.240
Secretary-General: House Bill 11377.

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06:19:56.240 --> 06:19:57.240
Secretary-General: Granting senior citizens

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06:19:57.240 --> 06:19:58.440
Secretary-General: a minimum five percent

asr-005882
06:19:58.440 --> 06:19:59.840
Secretary-General: discount on the first

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06:19:59.840 --> 06:20:01.080
Secretary-General: 150 kilowatt hours

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06:20:01.080 --> 06:20:03.400
Secretary-General: of electricity consumption

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06:20:03.400 --> 06:20:04.720
Secretary-General: on the first 50 cubic

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06:20:04.720 --> 06:20:05.400
Secretary-General: meters of water

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06:20:05.400 --> 06:20:06.320
Secretary-General: consumption,

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06:20:06.320 --> 06:20:07.280
Secretary-General: exception for the

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06:20:07.280 --> 06:20:08.000
Secretary-General: value added tax

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06:20:08.000 --> 06:20:08.560
Secretary-General: by Representative

asr-005891
06:20:08.560 --> 06:20:08.840
Secretary-General: Remuglia.

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06:20:08.840 --> 06:20:09.640
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Senior

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06:20:09.640 --> 06:20:10.640
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Citizens.

asr-005894
06:20:10.640 --> 06:20:12.000
Secretary-General: House Bill 11378.

asr-005895
06:20:12.000 --> 06:20:12.960
Secretary-General: Strengthening ethical

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06:20:12.960 --> 06:20:14.040
Secretary-General: standards in the

asr-005897
06:20:14.040 --> 06:20:14.640
Secretary-General: public service

asr-005898
06:20:14.640 --> 06:20:15.320
Secretary-General: by mandating the

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06:20:15.320 --> 06:20:16.320
Secretary-General: Civil Service Commission

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06:20:16.320 --> 06:20:17.040
Secretary-General: and other relevant

asr-005901
06:20:17.040 --> 06:20:18.360
Secretary-General: agencies to provide

asr-005902
06:20:18.360 --> 06:20:20.600
Secretary-General: education to government

asr-005903
06:20:20.600 --> 06:20:21.720
Secretary-General: officials and employees

asr-005904
06:20:21.720 --> 06:20:22.320
Secretary-General: by Representative

asr-005905
06:20:22.320 --> 06:20:23.000
Secretary-General: Remuglia.

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06:20:23.000 --> 06:20:23.840
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: The Committee on Civil

asr-005907
06:20:23.840 --> 06:20:24.760
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Service and Professional

asr-005908
06:20:24.760 --> 06:20:25.960
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Regulation.

asr-005909
06:20:25.960 --> 06:20:27.200
Secretary-General: House Bill 11379.

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06:20:27.240 --> 06:20:28.200
Secretary-General: Declaring a one-time

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06:20:28.200 --> 06:20:29.240
Secretary-General: amnesty on all

asr-005912
06:20:29.240 --> 06:20:30.040
Secretary-General: unpaid internal

asr-005913
06:20:30.040 --> 06:20:31.160
Secretary-General: revenue taxes

asr-005914
06:20:31.160 --> 06:20:31.760
Secretary-General: imposed by the

asr-005915
06:20:31.760 --> 06:20:32.680
Secretary-General: national government

asr-005916
06:20:32.680 --> 06:20:33.960
Secretary-General: for taxable year

asr-005917
06:20:33.960 --> 06:20:36.000
Secretary-General: 2024 and prior years.

asr-005918
06:20:36.000 --> 06:20:37.200
Secretary-General: Representatives

asr-005919
06:20:37.200 --> 06:20:38.120
Secretary-General: Tulfo Raffaender

asr-005920
06:20:38.120 --> 06:20:39.000
Secretary-General: and Tulfo Josidy.

asr-005921
06:20:39.000 --> 06:20:39.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on

asr-005922
06:20:39.520 --> 06:20:40.840
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Ways and Means.

asr-005923
06:20:40.840 --> 06:20:42.240
Secretary-General: House Bill 11381.

asr-005924
06:20:42.240 --> 06:20:43.160
Secretary-General: Granting hazard pay

asr-005925
06:20:43.160 --> 06:20:43.720
Secretary-General: to Barangay

asr-005926
06:20:43.720 --> 06:20:44.880
Secretary-General: and tanod members.

asr-005927
06:20:44.880 --> 06:20:46.280
Secretary-General: Representative Nisay.

asr-005928
06:20:46.280 --> 06:20:46.760
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on

asr-005929
06:20:46.760 --> 06:20:48.200
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Local Government.

asr-005930
06:20:48.200 --> 06:20:49.520
Secretary-General: House Bill 11382.

asr-005931
06:20:49.520 --> 06:20:50.400
Secretary-General: Granting hazard pay

asr-005932
06:20:50.400 --> 06:20:51.440
Secretary-General: to workers in critical

asr-005933
06:20:51.440 --> 06:20:52.520
Secretary-General: industries,

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06:20:52.520 --> 06:20:53.440
Secretary-General: during a state of

asr-005935
06:20:53.440 --> 06:20:54.560
Secretary-General: calamity or emergency

asr-005936
06:20:54.560 --> 06:20:55.280
Secretary-General: or public health

asr-005937
06:20:55.280 --> 06:20:55.880
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: emergency.

asr-005938
06:20:55.880 --> 06:20:56.480
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on

asr-005939
06:20:56.480 --> 06:20:57.360
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Labor and Employment.

asr-005940
06:20:57.360 --> 06:20:58.560
Secretary-General: House Bill 11383.

asr-005941
06:20:58.560 --> 06:20:59.720
Secretary-General: Providing for mandatory

asr-005942
06:20:59.720 --> 06:21:01.040
Secretary-General: insurance coverage,

asr-005943
06:21:01.040 --> 06:21:01.800
Secretary-General: benefits and hazard

asr-005944
06:21:01.800 --> 06:21:02.720
Secretary-General: pay for journalists,

asr-005945
06:21:02.720 --> 06:21:03.920
Secretary-General: employees of [unclear]

asr-005946
06:21:03.920 --> 06:21:05.320
Secretary-General: entities or [unclear]

asr-005947
06:21:05.320 --> 06:21:05.920
Secretary-General: assignments.

asr-005948
06:21:05.920 --> 06:21:06.440
Secretary-General: To the Committee on

asr-005949
06:21:06.440 --> 06:21:08.000
Secretary-General: Labor and Employment.

asr-005950
06:21:08.000 --> 06:21:09.160
Secretary-General: House Bill 11384.

asr-005951
06:21:09.160 --> 06:21:10.240
Secretary-General: Creating a tripartite

asr-005952
06:21:10.240 --> 06:21:11.240
Secretary-General: concept to address

asr-005953
06:21:11.240 --> 06:21:12.320
Secretary-General: unemployment,

asr-005954
06:21:12.320 --> 06:21:13.040
Secretary-General: underemployment

asr-005955
06:21:13.040 --> 06:21:14.000
Secretary-General: and the job skills

asr-005956
06:21:14.000 --> 06:21:14.880
Secretary-General: mismatch problem

asr-005957
06:21:14.880 --> 06:21:15.760
Secretary-General: in the country.

asr-005958
06:21:15.760 --> 06:21:16.880
Secretary-General: Representative Nisay.

asr-005959
06:21:16.880 --> 06:21:17.360
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on

asr-005960
06:21:17.360 --> 06:21:18.560
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Labor and Employment.

asr-005961
06:21:18.560 --> 06:21:19.760
Secretary-General: House Bill 11385.

asr-005962
06:21:19.760 --> 06:21:20.600
Secretary-General: Regulating the

asr-005963
06:21:20.600 --> 06:21:21.320
Secretary-General: organization and

asr-005964
06:21:21.320 --> 06:21:22.480
Secretary-General: operation of

asr-005965
06:21:22.480 --> 06:21:23.200
Secretary-General: community fund

asr-005966
06:21:23.200 --> 06:21:23.880
Secretary-General: pooling or

asr-005967
06:21:23.880 --> 06:21:25.080
Secretary-General: paluwagin groups.

asr-005968
06:21:25.080 --> 06:21:26.120
Secretary-General: Representative Nisay.

asr-005969
06:21:26.120 --> 06:21:27.000
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Committee on Micro, Small

asr-005970
06:21:27.000 --> 06:21:27.840
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: and Medium Enterprise

asr-005971
06:21:27.840 --> 06:21:28.760
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Development.

asr-005972
06:21:28.760 --> 06:21:29.960
Secretary-General: House Bill 11386.

asr-005973
06:21:29.960 --> 06:21:30.640
Secretary-General: Preserving the

asr-005974
06:21:30.640 --> 06:21:31.800
Secretary-General: indigenous games

asr-005975
06:21:31.800 --> 06:21:32.880
Secretary-General: of the Philippines.

asr-005976
06:21:32.880 --> 06:21:34.120
Secretary-General: Representative Nisay.

asr-005977
06:21:34.120 --> 06:21:34.520
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: To the Committee on

asr-005978
06:21:34.520 --> 06:21:35.120
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Youth and Sports

asr-005979
06:21:35.120 --> 06:21:35.880
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Development.

asr-005980
06:21:35.880 --> 06:21:37.240
Secretary-General: House Bill 11387.

asr-005981
06:21:37.240 --> 06:21:37.760
Secretary-General: Strengthening

asr-005982
06:21:37.760 --> 06:21:38.320
Secretary-General: responsible

asr-005983
06:21:38.320 --> 06:21:39.720
Secretary-General: firearm ownership

asr-005984
06:21:39.720 --> 06:21:40.440
Secretary-General: and accountability

asr-005985
06:21:40.440 --> 06:21:41.080
Secretary-General: of Representative

asr-005986
06:21:41.080 --> 06:21:41.360
Secretary-General: D.

asr-005987
06:21:41.360 --> 06:21:42.040
Secretary-General: Paustino and

asr-005988
06:21:42.040 --> 06:21:42.800
Secretary-General: Marcos.

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06:21:42.800 --> 06:21:43.320
Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Committee on Public

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Order and Safety.

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Secretary-General: Resolutions.

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Secretary-General: House Resolution

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Secretary-General: 1460.

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Secretary-General: Directing the

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Secretary-General: appropriate

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Secretary-General: committee of

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Secretary-General: the House of

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Secretary-General: Representatives

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Secretary-General: to conduct

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Secretary-General: an inquiry

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Secretary-General: into the

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Secretary-General: continued

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Secretary-General: operation

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Secretary-General: and availability

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Secretary-General: in the

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Secretary-General: Philippines

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Secretary-General: of the

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Secretary-General: services

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Secretary-General: of Meta

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Secretary-General: Platforms

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Secretary-General: Incorporated.

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Secretary-General: Representative

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Secretary-General: De Jesus.

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Secretary-General: Committee on

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Secretary-General: Rules.

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Secretary-General: House Resolution

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Secretary-General: 1461.

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Secretary-General: Congratulating

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Secretary-General: and commending

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Secretary-General: the Jesus

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Secretary-General: Lord Church

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Secretary-General: Worldwide

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Secretary-General: on the celebration

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Secretary-General: of its 48th

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Secretary-General: founding

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Secretary-General: anniversary

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Secretary-General: on October

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Secretary-General: 10,

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Secretary-General: 2026.

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Secretary-General: Representative

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Secretary-General: Baronda.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Committee on

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Rules.

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Secretary-General: House Resolution

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Secretary-General: 1464.

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Secretary-General: Commending

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Secretary-General: and honoring

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Secretary-General: the extraordinary

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Secretary-General: bravery

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Secretary-General: and supreme

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Secretary-General: sacrifice

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Secretary-General: of Scout

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Secretary-General: Chris

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Secretary-General: Lawrence

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Secretary-General: Tanglao

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Secretary-General: Fabian,

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Secretary-General: who gave

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Secretary-General: his life

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Secretary-General: to save

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Secretary-General: his

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Secretary-General: fellow

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Secretary-General: students

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Secretary-General: during

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Secretary-General: the tragic

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Secretary-General: shooting

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Secretary-General: incident

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Secretary-General: at San Jose

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Secretary-General: National

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Secretary-General: High

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Secretary-General: School

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Secretary-General: in Tacloban

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Secretary-General: City.

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Secretary-General: Representative

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Secretary-General: De Faustina

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Secretary-General: Marcos

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Secretary-General: and

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Secretary-General: Libanan.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Committee on

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Rules.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Majority

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Leader.

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Speaker,

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: move

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: to suspend

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: for a

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: few

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: minutes.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: suspended.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Session resumed.

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Rep. Antonino B. Roman III: Madam Speaker, I move to suspend session until Monday, September 21 at 1 p.m.

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Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin: Any objection? Hearing none. Session is suspended until Monday, September 21, 2026 at 1 o'clock in the afternoon.

