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Senate Committee on Finance · September 24, 2026

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Ladies and gentlemen, the hearing of the Committee on Finance, Subcommittee G, is hereby called to order. Our hearing for today is the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies. We would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Ping Lacson.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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We now call on our committee secretary, Attorney Lina, to acknowledge and place on record our resource persons. Attorney Lina, you have the floor.

Committee Secretary

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Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Senator Lacson, sir. From the DOJ family, we have the following in attendance: Secretary Frederick A. Vida; Undersecretary Raul T. Vasquez.

Committee Secretary

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Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez; Undersecretary Deo L. Marco; Undersecretary Nicolas Felix L. Ty; Undersecretary Gard M. Candelaria; Prosecutor General Richard Anthony D. Fadullon; Chief State Counsel Dennis Arvin L. Chan; from the Bureau of Immigration, Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado.

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From the Land Registration Authority, we have Gerardo P. Sirios, Administrator.

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From the National Bureau of Investigation, Melvin A. Matiwag, the Director.

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From the Office of the Government Corporate Council, Solomon M. Hermosura.

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From the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution, we have Jose Maria R. Palaganas, Executive Director.

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From the Parole and Probation Authority, Wilson R. Suba, Administrator.

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From the Presidential Commission on Good Government, Justice Melchor Quirino C. Sadang, the Chairperson.

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From the Bureau of Corrections, General Gregorio P. Catapang, Jr., Director General.

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From the Department of Budget and Management, Representatives to the DOJ, Mr. Carlos M. Castro, Director.

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From the COA to the DOJ, Attorney.

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Gumer Guime, Cassandra Conde, and Imelda Baguiza.

Committee Secretary

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That's all for now, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Thank you, Attorney Lina. We will now proceed with our opening statement.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Actually, 25 years ago, it's full circle for this representation because I first defended the DOJ budget 25 years ago as Chairman then of the Committee on Justice here in the Senate.

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And so I'm back as Senate Committee on Justice Chairperson, and 25 years later, I will be defending your budget.

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25 years ago, kami po ni Senator Ping Lacson ay sabay na halal bilang senador. In fact, I call him my mista in the Senate, batch 2001.

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And he's here with us also today.

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Ngayong araw, gusto natin sukatin ang...

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Proposed 2027 Budget ng DOJ at ng attached agencies nito.

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Sukatin natin ang 43.3 billion pesos sa tanong ng karaniwang Pilipino.

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Kaya ba nitong ibigay ang mabilis, abot kaya, makatao, at pantay na hustisya?

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Kaya bang managot ang dapat managot?

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Sabi nga, 43.3 billion pesos ang gagasusin natin.

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Habang base sa COA...

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Tapos, 1.3 trillion naman ang pondo ng gobernong ninanakaw taon-taon.

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Kaya, napakahalaga ng sistema ng katarungan sa ating bansa para matugunan ang nais ng ating mga kababayan.

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May dagdag na pondo para sa National Prosecution Service Bureau of Corrections.

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Public Attorney's Office.

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Makakatulong ang mga pondong ito.

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Para marinig ang mga biktima, mabigyan ng abogado ang mga mahihirap, at matiyak na makatao at ang pagtrato sa mga nakakulong.

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Pero bumaba naman ng 23% ang budget ng NBI.

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Kabilang ang halos 90% na bawas sa capital outlay.

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Okay lang ba yun?

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Habang lumalala at nagiging mas komplikado ang cybercrime, mga scams, human trafficking,

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at malalaking financial crimes.

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Ang batas, ang software ng bansa.

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Ang justice system naman, ang operating system for ang hardware.

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Kung kulang sa mga investigador, prosecutor, mga field office, at luma na ang forensic tools at case tracking systems,

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kahit gaano kaganda ang software.

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Kung ang operating system ay 486.

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Or something, yung mga panahon namin,

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Eh, mapuprotektahan ba ang mga maliliit na ating mga kababayan?

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Halimbawa, tulad ng mga magsasaka sa agriculture smuggling,

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o ang ating mga anak laban sa online sexual abuse and exploitation.

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Mabigat ang pasan ng ating DOJ.

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Sa 45 agriculture economic sabotage complaints, halimbawa, na na-refer sa DOJ hanggang May of this year,

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35!

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Ang binalik para sa case build-up, 35 of 45 returned for additional case build-up.

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Nilalamo ng agriculture smuggling halimbawa ang kabuhayan ng mga magsasaka,

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mga ngingisda, at patuloy na mataas ang presyo ng pagkain at patuloy ang gutom.

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Pero nasaan ang mga forfeiture ng mga nagwawasak ng ating agriculture economy?

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Nasaan ang mga conviction?

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Sa pang-aabuso sa mga bata, inaasahang kumilos agad ang Estado.

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Pero bumaba sa halos 35.7 million pesos

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ang proposed allocation para sa National Coordination Center against OSAEC and CISAEM.

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61% lower kaysa sa 2026 enacted level.

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Samantala, uulitin natin 90% ang bawas sa capital outlay ng NBI

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at 898 sa mga authorized positions ito na nanatiling bakante.

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Ang 2027 DOJ budget dapat maging kongkretong commitment na punan ang mga bakanting posisyon,

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bigyan ng sapat na kagamitan ang mga investigador, pagdugtong-dugtongin ang mga ahensya.

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Bumuoon ng mga matibay na kasong ilalatag sa korte, protektahan ng mga biktima,

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panagutin ang mga

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salarin.

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Secretary Vida and the rest of the team DOJ,

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today we invite you to present your strategic plans and your key performance targets.

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Iniimbitahan namin kayong tulungan-punan ang hinihingi ng ordinaryong Pilipino sa DOJ,

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isang sistema ng katarungan na gumagana, agad, mahusay at patas.

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Lalo na at pagkain, kabuhayan, kaligtasan at kinabukasan

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Ng mga anak natin ang nakataya. We look forward to a productive and candid discussion. Paano ma-o-optimize itong proposed allocation? Paano pa maidadagdag at saan natin kukunin ang idadagdag para magampanan ang mga mandato ng may pinakamataas na antas ng pananagutan, accountability, at transparency?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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We now ask Senator Lacson for his opening statement. You have the floor, sir.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

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None from this representation, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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With that, we can now proceed. Secretary Vida, you have the floor for your opening statement and your presentation. Go ahead, sir.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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Magandang umaga po at maraming salamat po sa pagkakataon. Ako po ang inyong Secretary of Justice, Frederick A. Vida.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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Kasama ko po ang iba't-ibang opisyalis at lingkodbayan mula sa pamilya ng Department of Justice.

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At para po sa batid na kaalaman ng lahat, ang sampu po na attached agencies ng Department of Justice ay unang-una,

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ang Office of the Solicitor General, ang ating pong Bureau of Corrections, ang Bureau of Immigration, ang Land Registration Authority,

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ang National Bureau of Investigations.

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Ang Office of the Government Corporate Council, ang Parole and Probation Administration, ang ating pong PCGG, Presidential Commission on Good Government,

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and ang ating pong Public Attorney's Office, at syempre po kasama rin po natin ng Office of the Alternative Dispute Resolutions.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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Salamat po, ginagalang at minamahal na aming Senador, Senator Francis Pangilinan, and Senator Ping Lacson.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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Salamat po sa pagkakataon para amin pong maihain at maidulog ang proposed budget ng DOJ for 2027.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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Ito po, para pong sa bilang ay malaki, 46 billion, ito po ay 0.64% lamang ng kabuang budget para sa susunod na taon ng national government.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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At kasama ko po ang iba't-ibang undersecretary.

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Assistant Secretary, kami po ay handa na tugunan lahat ng inyong katanungan at paglilinaw.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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At maraming salamat po sa pagkakataon.

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Sa pagpapatuloy po ng aming pong paghain, ng aming proposed budget,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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Nandito po ang aming kasama, si Undersecretary Anika Gran-Ong, para ho ipagpatuloy ang aming presentasyon.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

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Maraming salamat po.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Go ahead, Yusek, you have the floor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Annika ba yan? Annika?

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

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Yes, sir.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

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Good morning.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

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Kilala yung Annika dito sa impeachment trial, kaya very familiar kami sa Annika.

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Go ahead, Annika, please don't ring the bell.

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You have more than two minutes.

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Okay.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

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Thank you very much, Honorable Chairperson.

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The Department's overarching framework is defined by its core mandate to uphold the rule of law and serve the government's principal law agency.

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In pursuit of its vision to foster a just and peaceful society rooted in transparency, accountability, fairness, and truth,

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the Department executes its mission by delivering an effective, efficient, and equitable administration of justice nationwide.

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The Department administers the criminal justice system through the investigation of crimes, the prosecution of offenders, and the administration of the correctional system.

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Beyond criminal justice, the Department also maintains oversight over immigration, citizenship, and land titling system.

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Above all,

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The Department guarantees social justice by extending free legal assistance to our most vulnerable and indigent citizens.

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In the next few slides, we will highlight some of the key operational accomplishments of the Department.

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The Department of Justice, through the National Prosecution Service, consistently demonstrated enhanced prosecutorial output and case management efficiency over the past five years.

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More significantly in 2025,

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NPS

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handled a heavy total caseload of 428,779 cases.

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By year-end,

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395,780 of these were disposed and resolved,

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resulting in 99.12% of cases resolved within the prescribed 120 days,

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improving upon the 99.08% accomplishment recorded in 2024.

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The resolved cases include all those complaints,

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under preliminary investigation, inquest, and motion for reconsideration.

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Turning to court dispositions, the Department has consistently sustained high prosecution success rates over the past five years.

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As shown in this slide, the Department poses upward trajectory in terms of PSR.

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The PSR rose to 90.84% in 2025 from 90.14% in 2024.

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This performance reflects concrete results of the Department's institutional reforms,

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especially in strengthening pre-trial case buildup, tightening evidence standards, and adopting a proactive role in criminal investigation.

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Moving on to our overall agency performance,

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the succeeding slides show our agency physical performance for calendar year 2025 and for the first semester of calendar year 2025.

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Under our prosecution sub-program, we maintained high operational output.

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The National Prosecution Service attained a PSR of 90.84% in 2025,

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which is further improved to 91.38% in the first semester of 2026.

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Further, case disposition rate remained high at 99.12% in 2025.

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As of the first semester, case disposition rate has reached 97.96%.

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The PSR has reached 94.94%, which is expected to increase further by year end.

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For our Witness Protection sub-program, we achieved a 100% success rate across all three key indicators in the first semester of 2026.

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Further, through our Special Enforcement and Protection Units,

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we have attained 95.18% successful prosecution on monitored cases in 2025.

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As of first semester of this year,

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responsible units have already attained

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94.23%,

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which is anticipated to trend

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upward by year-end. The special

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enforcement cluster reported an

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improved investigation completion rate

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of 95.76%

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as of first semester of this

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year, a slight increase from

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95.34% in

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2025. Under our

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corrections sub-program, the agency

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has issued 100% of

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parole and executive

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clemency resolutions in

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2025 and in the first half of

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2026. Similarly,

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all applications and requests

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for victim compensation claims

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in 2025 and the first half

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of this year were acted upon

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during the period. The legal

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services program recorded an improved

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efficiency rate attaining 99.12%

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of legal service

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requests acted upon

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in the first sem of 2026,

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an increase from 99.05%

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in 2025.

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Relative to

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our law enforcement services,

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the National Bureau of Investigation

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conducted and acted upon

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32,419

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investigations

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in the first sem of 2026,

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tracking steadily against

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the full year total of

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56,212 in

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2025.

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For clearance applications,

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the NBI was able to process

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99.28% of requests

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within the prescribed

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time of 10 minutes in 2025.

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This year, as of the

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first semester, the Bureau has already

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reached an efficiency rate of

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98.79%

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and may surpass previous year's

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performance by year-end.

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On the other hand, the Bureau of Immigration

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cleared 99.99%

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of foreign arrival and departures

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in 2025, which

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is sustained as of the first sem of this year.

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For the first half of this year,

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the BI also achieved

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96.02% of intelligence

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case disposition within 60 days,

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this has already exceeded

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its annual target of

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95.91% by

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0.51%.

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The BI commits to sustain this performance

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by year-end. In terms of

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corrections administration,

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the average daily number of

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PBLs managed and safe-kept

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by the Bureau of Corrections stood

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at 52,708

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in the first sem of this year,

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down from 53,972

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in 2025.

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This indicates steady

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progress in prison congestion,

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PDL engagement

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in reformation or rehabilitation

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programs rose to 98.60%

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in the first sem of this

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year from 97.97%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000228

last year.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000229

Moreover, client compliance with

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000230

probation and parole conditions increased

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000231

to 99.46%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000232

in the first half this year, compared

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000233

to 98.96%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000234

last year.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000235

Additionally, participation of

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000236

probationers and parolees in

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000237

community-based rehabilitation programs

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000238

of the PPA reached

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000239

98.69%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000240

in 2025 and

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000241

98.75% in the first

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000242

sem this year.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000243

The performance metrics

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000244

on this slide shows operational efficiency

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000245

and high client satisfaction

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000246

in the provision of legal services.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000247

The Public Attorney's

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000248

Office sustained high disposition

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000249

rates of cases with favorable

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000250

judgments both in 2025

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000251

and 2026.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000252

At the same time, PAO was able to

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000253

achieve high success rates

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000254

on alternative dispute resolution

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000255

for 2025 at

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000256

91.43%.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000257

The Office of the Solicitor

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000258

General acted on 98.3%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000259

of the cases it handled

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000260

in 2025, which

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000261

increased to 98.6%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000262

this year. Across the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000263

assessment periods, the agency was able

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000264

to act on 100%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000265

of petitions for naturalization.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000266

The high performance

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000267

results led to excellent satisfaction

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000268

ratings from their client agencies.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000269

Similarly,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000270

from 2025 up to 2026,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000271

the Office of the Government Corporate

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000272

Council was able to file 100%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000273

of its pleadings within

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000274

the prescribed period. Meanwhile,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000275

as of the first sem this year, 88%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000276

of contracts were reviewed and

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000277

legal opinions were rendered by the OGCC

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000278

within the prescribed period,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000279

a significant increase of

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000280

8% from its accomplishment rate

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000281

last year. In the case

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000282

of the Land Registration Authority,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000283

the agency has surpassed

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000284

its accomplishments in 2025

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000285

with 93.94%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000286

titles issued and 95.67%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000287

of these annotated

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000288

within 20 days from receipt of

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000289

complete documents. Meanwhile,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000290

the Presidential Commission

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000291

on Good Government, or PCGG,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000292

reported around

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000293

1.57 billion of recovered

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000294

amount and proceeds

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000295

from the administration of fully taken

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000296

over sequestered assets in

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000297

2025. The Commission

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000298

is expected to remit the same amount

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000299

to the Treasury by the end of this year.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000300

Lastly, the Office of

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000301

Alternative Dispute Resolution

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000302

continuously advances the use

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000303

of ADR mechanisms,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000304

having trained 3,392

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000305

practitioners and implementers

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000306

last year. It has

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000307

also acted upon all applications

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000308

for accreditation and approval of

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000309

ADR training programs for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000310

2025 and 2026.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000311

Overall,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000312

The whole department remains steadfast

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000313

and optimistic in sustaining,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000314

if not surpassing, its high-performance

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000315

results.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000316

The total proposed budget of the DOJ,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000317

including its attached

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000318

constituent agencies for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000319

2027, amounts to

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000320

46.435 billion

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000321

as compared to

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000322

the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000323

2026

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000324

approved budget of

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000325

45.525 billion.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000326

As you may note, the DOJ

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000327

budget for 2027

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000328

is retained at 0.64%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000329

or less than 1%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000330

of the published total NEP budget

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000331

of 7.2 trillion.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000332

Overall, for the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000333

2027 NEP-based

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000334

budget, 68.32%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000335

is for personal services,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000336

including salaries and other

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000337

compensation of employees.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000338

Only 24.42%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000339

is programmed for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000340

maintenance and other operating expenses,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000341

while

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000342

7.26%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000343

accounts for the capital outlay

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000344

of select agencies of the department.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000345

The slight increase in

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000346

overall NEP budget of the DOJ

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000347

is attributed mainly to the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000348

increased funding requirement

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000349

for personal salaries and other

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000350

compensation. For FY

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000351

2027, the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000352

department-wide budget proposal

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000353

amounts to

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000354

121.63

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000355

billion, but the total

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000356

budget recommended in the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000357

2027

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000358

National Expenditure Program

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000359

is only 46.435

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000360

billion, or only

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000361

38.18% of the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000362

submitted proposed budget.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000363

This slide shows our

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000364

comparative budget for 2026

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000365

and 2027 by

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000366

allotment class in millions of pesos.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000367

Details of these figures

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000368

will be shown later.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000369

With the permission of the honorable members

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000370

of the committee, please allow me to present

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000371

the DOJ OSEC budget in the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000372

next several slides.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000373

Before you proceed, we would like

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000374

to acknowledge the presence of

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000375

our chairperson of the Committee on Finance,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000376

Senator JV

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000377

Ejercito. Thank you, Senator

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000378

JV. Please proceed. Go ahead.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000379

Thank you.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000380

Next slide.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000381

For 2027,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000382

the Office of the Secretary

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000383

is provided with a total budget

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000384

of 13.930

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000385

billion, wherein

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000386

70.67% is for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000387

PS, 12.46%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000388

for MOOE, and

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000389

16.86% for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000390

capital outlay. For our

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000391

law enforcement program, the budget

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000392

for the National Prosecution Service

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000393

increased by 7.64%.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000394

On the contrary,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000395

with substantial reduction in the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000396

budgets of anti-trafficking in persons,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000397

anti-cybercrime, and

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000398

OSA-XISAEP, the budget for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000399

special enforcement and protection program

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000400

is reduced by almost half in

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000401

2027 at

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000402

204 million compared to the current

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000403

appropriations of 402 million.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000404

For 2027,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000405

the target disposition rate of criminal

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000406

complaints handled by the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000407

NPS is set at 97%.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000408

The Department, through the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000409

Witness Protection Program, aims

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000410

to act on all applications for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000411

witness coverage, and that

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000412

95.34%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000413

of investigations undertaken by

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000414

special enforcement units

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000415

must be completed.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000416

The total recommended appropriations

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000417

for our corrections program,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000418

in 2027, is reduced

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000419

by 21.05%.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000420

Compared to our current

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000421

year's approved funding, the recommended

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000422

budget for our pardons and parole services

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000423

is slightly reduced

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000424

by 2.63% at

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000425

37 million. On the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000426

other hand, the recommended budget

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000427

for Victims' Compensation Service is

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000428

cut by more than half for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000429

19 million in 2026

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000430

to 8 million in 2027.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000431

With significantly reduced

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000432

budgets for next year,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000433

the Board of Pardons and Parole will

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000434

ensure that 99.72%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000435

of the applications for parole and

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000436

executive clemency are acted upon

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000437

and that 100% of board

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000438

resolutions on the grant of parole

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000439

and executive clemency are

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000440

issued within the prescribed period.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000441

For 2027,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000442

the legal staff shall

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000443

ensure that 97.01%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000444

of requests for legal services

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000445

are acted upon within the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000446

working budget of 205 million,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000447

which is 4.59%.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000448

higher than the 2026

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000449

budget. For our

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000450

attached and constituent agencies,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000451

we start with the Bureau of Corrections.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000452

Their 2027 recommended

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000453

budget amounts to 11.93

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000454

billion, which is 9.66%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000455

higher than the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000456

10.88 billion appropriations in the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000457

current year. On average,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000458

the BUCOR is committed to maintain and

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000459

safeguard around 56,454

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000460

PDLs daily

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000461

and to ensure that

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000462

98.13% of PDLs

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000463

participate in their rehabilitation

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000464

programs. For the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000465

Bureau of Immigration, their 2027

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000466

recommended budget is

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000467

2.98 billion, which is

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000468

35.8%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000469

lower than the 2026

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000470

budget. Given

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000471

this budget for

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000472

2027, the BI is set to clear

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000473

the arrival or departure of

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000474

99.99% foreign passengers.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000475

Further, the

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000476

Bureau needs to dispose within 60 days

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000477

95.91%

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000478

of intelligence cases.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000479

For the Land Registration Authority,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000480

the 2027 recommended

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000481

budget amounts to 3.28

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000482

billion.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000483

which is 13.7% higher than the 2.88 billion budget in 2026.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000484

Given this budget, the LRA will be able to provide land registration services,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000485

particularly the agency shall ensure that at least 93.62% of titles will be issued

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000486

and 95.64% of these are annotated within 20 days after the submission of completed documents.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000487

For the National Bureau of Investigation, their 2027 recommended budget is 22.34% lower at 3.03 billion from 3.9 billion in 2026.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000488

For the said 2027 budget, the NBI should be able to process more than 6.6 million clearances

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000489

of which at least 98% should be issued within 10 minutes from receipt of request.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000490

The NBI committed to act upon and conduct at least 50,000 investigations next year.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000491

For the Office of the Government Corporate Council, the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 310 million

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000492

which is 2.21% lower than the 316 million budget in 2026.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000493

For the next year, the OGCC shall ensure that 100% of all court pleadings will be filed within the prescribed period

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000494

and that 82% of all contracts will be reviewed and legal opinions will be rendered within the prescribed period.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000495

For the Office of the Solicitor General, the 2027 recommended budget is increased to 2.14 billion from 1.9 billion in 2026

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000496

with a positive variance of 13.15% in their budget.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000497

The OSG aims to act upon at least 98% of referred cases in 2027

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000498

out of which 99% are acted upon within 30 days.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000499

For resolution of petitions for naturalization, the agency intends to resolve 100% by the end of the year.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000500

For the PPA, the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 1.25 billion

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000501

which is about 3.61% lower than the 1.3 billion approved budget in 2026.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000502

With their 2027 NEP-based budget, the PPA will ensure 98.96% of their clients

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000503

will be compliant with the terms of the PPA.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000504

For the PCGG, the recommended budget under the 2027 NEP amounts to 339 million

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000505

which is 9.35% higher than their current year appropriations of 310 million.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000506

For 2027, the PCGG targets at least 846 million of surrendered or sequestered

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000507

assets to be submitted to the Bureau of Treasury.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000508

For the Public Attorney's Office, their 2027 recommended budget amounts to 7.101 billion

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000509

which is 6.10% higher than their 6.693 billion budget for 2026.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000510

With this recommended budget, the PAO will be able to achieve 83.05% favorable judgments

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000511

for its disposed cases including appeals in 2027.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000512

Said office will also ensure that all requests for non-judicial,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000513

services in 2027 will be acted upon within two hours.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000514

Lastly, for the Office of the Alternative Dispute Resolution,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000515

the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 139 million

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000516

which is 16.27% lower than their current year's appropriation.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000517

Despite the reduced funding, the OADR will ensure that 1,880 ADR practitioners

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000518

and implementers will be trained and 100% of applications for accreditation

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000519

will be acted upon in 2027.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000520

This concludes our presentation of the 2027 Department-wide Budget.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000521

At this point, we are ready to address any questions, comments,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000522

or requests for clarifications from the members of this committee.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000523

Thank you, Yusek Ong.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000524

Just housekeeping, each senator will be given for the first round 10 minutes

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000525

and then we can proceed from there.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000526

And by order of arrival,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000527

Senator,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000528

Ping Lakson has the floor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000529

Go ahead, Senator Ping, you have 10 minutes.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000530

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000531

Before I proceed to my particular point of interest

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000532

in today's budget hearing or briefing,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000533

let me just seek clarification on the disposition of cases,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000534

yung disposition rate.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000535

Apparently, there's a mathematical error.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000536

Kasi when we computed,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000537

ang data nyo rito is 428,779 cases,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000538

this was in 2025.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000539

Ang na-dispose or resolved

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000540

And you computed it at 99.12%.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000541

When we computed, nasa 92.3% lang.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000542

Baka naman mali yung aming computation.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000543

Pakiclarify lang nga.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000544

Malaki yung discrepancy kasi between 99.12 and 92.3,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000545

medyo malaki po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000546

At kung kailangan,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000547

rectify, rectify lang natin.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000548

Kung ako naman ang mali,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000549

paki-explain lang.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000550

Maraming salamat, Sen.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000551

428,000, yun yung universe natin.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000552

395,780 resolved as of December 31.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000553

Pero dagdag pa ho doon,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000554

meron nung pending,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000555

may cases pa na,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000556

of course, the balance.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000557

Pero yung 32,000,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000558

yung 29,000 na pending out of the 32,000,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000559

is still within the 120 days.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000560

We have 120 days to resolve yung preliminary investigation.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000561

So we do not consider that as late.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000562

Kasi halimbawa,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000563

nag-file lang ng December 1,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000564

compute 30, 30,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000565

so March 31 pa yun.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000566

So out of the 32,000,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000567

yung 29,000 is still within the period.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000568

Kaya po, we computed it as 99.12% pa.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000569

Ni-less po namin.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000570

Maraming salamat sa clarification

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000571

kasi hindi naman napasama sa presentation.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000572

We will make the proper notation

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000573

so that it can be easily understood.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000574

Kala ko, hindi marunong mag-math si Dong Padulyon eh.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000575

Kaya nag-law school na lang.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000576

...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000577

Ang second question,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000578

doon sa same presentation,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000579

90.84%,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000580

ito yung prosecution success rate.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000581

Define ito ng convictions versus acquittals.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000582

Pero yung performance chain,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000583

gusto na namin makita yung further details.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000584

Yung share of all complaints received,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000585

yung nakarating sa filing,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000586

trial,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000587

final conviction.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000588

So, meron ba kayo dyang data?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000589

Kung wala naman,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000590

pwede namang isubmit later.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000591

Pero kung meron kayong,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000592

complete performance,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000593

yung data sa performance chain,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000594

yung

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000595

as to the complaints received,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000596

dismissed, filed, withdrawn,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000597

plea bargain,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000598

convicted, acquitted,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000599

archived,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000600

appealed,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000601

and finally resolved.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000602

Kung meron lang,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000603

kung wala naman,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000604

we're willing to wait.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000605

Yes, Mr. Senator.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000606

We will submit the corresponding

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000607

disaggregated para mas,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000608

with the proper filters.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000609

Thank you.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000610

Now, I'll proceed to the,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000611

yung automatic appropriations.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000612

Particularly,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000613

doon sa special accounts.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000614

Gusto ko lang malaman yung

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000615

how much

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000616

income was generated

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000617

against those earmarked

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000618

to the different agencies

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000619

under automatic appropriations

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000620

or under special accounts.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000621

Kasi may mga income generating

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000622

agencies kayo, di ba?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000623

Like,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000624

ang malaki rito,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000625

LRA,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000626

Bureau of Immigration.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000627

Ito yung mga trust receipts.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000628

And, naturally,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000629

lahat ito,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000630

binabalik natin sa treasury,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000631

di ba?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000632

Sinasabit.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000633

And then,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000634

we are required to just request.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000635

Ang gusto ko lang malaman,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000636

yung ratio,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000637

how much was earned

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000638

by the different agencies

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000639

paki-breakdown

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000640

as against those

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000641

appropriated under special accounts.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000642

Dito namin kayo pwedeng tulungan.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000643

Kaya, I'm asking for details.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000644

By the way,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000645

ano-ano mga agencies pa yung merong

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000646

income generation?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000647

Income generating activities?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000648

NBI.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000649

Sir,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000650

the agencies that

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000651

have special accounts are

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000652

NBI,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000653

BI,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000654

LRA,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000655

DOJ, sir.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000656

The OSEC proper.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000657

PCGG ba meron?

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000658

PCGG.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000659

PCGG as well.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000660

Saan nasa source yung

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000661

sa DOJ proper?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000662

Income generation?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000663

Ah, okay.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000664

The sources of income

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000665

from the office of the secretary

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000666

comes from legal fees,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000667

other service income,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000668

and miscellaneous income.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000669

Yung universe muna.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000670

Magkano yung

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000671

total na

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000672

na generate na income

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000673

ng buong department?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000674

Including all agencies

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000675

that generate income.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000676

For 2025,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000677

for the whole agency,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000678

the DOJ family,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000679

it's 18 billion,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000680

and 715,924,000.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000681

715,924,000.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000682

Ang ibinalik sa inyo,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000683

magkano?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000684

Buong agency again?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000685

Magkano daw,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000686

binalik?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000691

Lahat ito,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000692

under special accounts,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000693

ano,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000694

pinasok?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000695

Under the proposed,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000696

under the NEP,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000697

under automatic appropriations.

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000698

Sir,

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000699

Asec

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000700

or Asec [unclear]

DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong

asr-000701

can answer?

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000702

Sir, no,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000703

may certain agency lang po

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000704

na merong special account

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000705

in the general fund,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000706

like LRA.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000707

I think also,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000708

Total muna.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000709

Ay, sir.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000710

Kasi meron kayong

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000711

ibinigay sa treasurer

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000712

na 18 billion plus.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000713

Gusto ko malaman,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000714

magkano yung naibalik sa inyo.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000715

Sir, sandali ah.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000716

I just would like to find out

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000717

how much

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000718

you are being shortchanged.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000719

Ah, yes, sir.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000720

Sir, I do not have the

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000721

entire ano,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000722

but yung per agency,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000723

meron po yung sa

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000724

special account,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000725

like for the last,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000726

for the Land Registration

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000727

ang special account nila

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000728

for,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000729

actually,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000730

ang 2026 yung data ko po dito,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000731

sa MOOE is 1.2 billion,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000732

and for capital outlay

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000733

is around 267 million.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000734

For NBI naman po,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000735

for MOOE is 1.3 billion,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000736

and capital outlay,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000737

is 1.1 billion.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000738

Teka, para clear lang na

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000739

we're on the same page,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000740

ito yung

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000741

na-receive in 20...

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000742

26 po,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000743

na special account in the general.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000744

So, magkano yung

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000745

naibigay ng LRA

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000746

sa treasury?

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000747

Wait, sir.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000748

In 2026,

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000749

ang total na provide ng LRA...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000750

No, 2026.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000751

No, 2025.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000752

Hindi pa tapos yung 2026 eh.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000753

Ah, kasi.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000754

2025 provided by LRA...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000755

Teka, ito, total.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000756

Special account in the general fund

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000757

is 2.2 billion.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000758

2.2 billion ang nai-remit

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000759

sa treasury ng LRA.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000760

Yes, sir, ng LRA.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000761

2.2.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000762

2 billion.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000763

Ano pa yung iba?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000764

Sa BI?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000765

May...

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000766

Your Honor, can we...

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000767

Can we confirm from the agency themselves?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000768

So that we have the correct data?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-000769

Yes, Admin?

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000770

Good morning, Mr. Chair,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000771

with the permission of the Secretary.

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000772

The LRA contributed to the national treasury in 2025,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000773

11 billion,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000774

444 million...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000775

Hindi 2.2, 11 billion.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000776

Hindi, for...

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000777

Special account lang, sir, yung tinatanong.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000778

No, no, no.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000779

Yung nai-remit ang tinatanong po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000780

Ang tinatanong po,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000781

sabi ko nga kanina,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000782

para same page tayo,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000783

yung nai-remit muna.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-000784

Ah, okay, sir.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000785

So that's 11 billion.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000786

Apo.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000787

Sige, Jerry, please continue.

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000788

Mr. Chair,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000789

o Senator,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000790

ah,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000791

we...

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000792

we were given,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000793

ah,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000794

15% of our...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000795

Teka muna,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000796

yung munang nai-remit ninyo.

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000797

Again,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000798

Mr. Senator,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000799

we remitted 11 billion 400...

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000800

around 400 million

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000801

to the national treasury.

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000802

Out of that,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000803

we have a special account,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000804

which...

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000805

of which 20% is supposed to be retained

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000806

by the agency.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000807

We were...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000808

This is covered by law?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000809

Yes, sir.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000810

Yung earmark ito ah, 20%?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000811

Yes, sir.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000812

Under PD 1529.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000813

Thank you.

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000814

And then,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000815

we were given

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000816

in the NEP at that...

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000817

at that time,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000818

15% of our...

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000819

15% of our earnings,

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000820

Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000821

So, short ng 5%?

LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios

asr-000822

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000823

So, violation of law?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000824

kaya nga we want to find out

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000825

so we can you know make some adjustments

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000826

kasi ang laki ng cut ng

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000827

department

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000828

so at least sa aspect

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000829

na ito we want to

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000830

you know to support the department

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000831

that's the reason why I'm

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000832

trying to find out the details

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000833

kasi kung under the law

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000834

under the PD

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000835

entitled kayo sa 20%

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000836

tapos bibigyan lang kayo sa NEP ng 15%

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000837

probably

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000838

we can correct

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000839

or

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000840

i-remedyan natin yung error

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000841

yung violation of law by giving back

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000842

to the department

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000843

LRA

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000844

the missing 5%

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000845

kaya nga kaya ako nagtatanong

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000846

so okay settled

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000847

Bureau of Immigration

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000848

With the permission of Senator Ping Lakson

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000849

we just like to place on record and acknowledge

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000850

the presence of our former

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000851

Senate President, Senate President

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000852

Senator Tito Soto

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000853

Thank you for joining us

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000854

Go ahead Senator Ping

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000855

Thank you, BI

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000856

Another Kababayan

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000857

Good morning honorable senators

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000858

Good morning Senator Lakson

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000859

Senator Pangilinan, Senator Ersito

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000860

and Senator Soto

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000861

Sir ang nakolekta po ng

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000862

Bureau of Immigration

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000863

for

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000864

2025 which was remitted to the

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000865

National Treasury was in the amount

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000866

of 4 billion,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000868

669,787,927 pesos,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000869

Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000870

We also have

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000871

partial figures for the year

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000872

2026 from January

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000873

to July 2026

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000874

ang nai-remit po namin sa

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000875

National Treasury was

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000876

in the amount of 2,658,991,272

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000877

pesos.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000878

wala po kami

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000879

your honor na special account

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000880

what we have

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000881

is the amount of

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000882

is yung pong mga

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000883

nari-remit po po namin

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000884

from the collection of the express lane fees

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000885

11% po nang

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000886

nakokolekta namin sa express lane fees

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000887

directa po namin dinideposit po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000888

pabalik sa National Treasury

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000889

your honor

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000890

and sa year po na 2025

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000891

ang 11% po na deposited

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000892

directly to the National Treasury

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000893

is 249,309,317.50

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000894

Pagdating naman po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000895

sa January to July

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000896

2026

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000897

nakapag-deposito po kami yung 11% po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000898

na directly to the National Treasury

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000899

in the amount of

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000900

197,436,965 pesos

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000901

your honor

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000902

Thank you

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000903

About the other agencies

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000904

na meron ding income generation

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000905

Just a clarification

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000906

sir,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000907

at Senator Ping

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000908

Nabanggit mo 4,619,000

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000909

or is that 4,669,000,000?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000910

Sorry, 4,669,000, your honor

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000911

Not million

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000912

Ah, sorry

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000913

Ah, mahina sa mouth, your honor

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000914

4,669,787,927

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000915

thank you for the clarification

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000916

Yes, yes okay

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000917

Thank you

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000918

At ang nabalik lang sa inyo sa under the express lane, magkano lang?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000919

Kasi wala nabalik sa inyo sa na-remit ninyo, no?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000920

Wala po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000921

Yan po talaga ang directly nire-remit namin, 11% po ng koleksyon, directly to the National Treasury, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000922

Yung bumabalik sa inyo, from the express lane lang?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000923

Yung pong ano, ang breakdown po noon is...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000924

Teka, nawala na nga pala yung overtime nyo, no?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000925

Wala po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000926

Pinatanggal nung kapartido ni Sen. Turquico.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000927

Sen. Turmar.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000928

Tinalis ni Maro.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000929

Sana po yung...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000930

Hindi, every time, alam nyo, every time nadadaan kami doon sa immigration lane, ito yung dinadadaan ng mga employees ninyo, eh.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000931

Baka pwedeng ibalik yung overtime.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000932

Apo, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000933

I don't know what it will take, no, to restore yung inyong overtime pay.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000934

Kasi, this is...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000935

The overtime pay is coming from the airlines, di ba?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000936

Yes, po, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000937

Yun ang tinanggal.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000938

Yes, po, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000939

So, anyway, bahala na si Chairman, siya na may abogado pag-aralan nyo, paano ma-restore.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000940

Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000941

Saka siya rin yung Chairman ng Committee on Justice ng Senate.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000942

So, probably...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000943

We will review.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000944

Yeah.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000945

Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000946

Thank you.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000947

Ano pang...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000948

But, but, just to add, because we're finalizing your modernization bill.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000949

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000950

Baka pwedeng doon na i-incorporate yun, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-000951

So, we'll also look into that.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000952

Thank you, thank you.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-000953

Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000954

Thank you.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000955

Any other agency na merong income?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000956

NBI.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000957

Good morning, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000958

Yung legal, ha?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000959

Apo.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000960

Kukonti na po yung illegal, e.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000961

Marami ko tayo inuli.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000962

Last year, we have remitted 855,101,000.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000963

So, ito po yung earnings natin from the NBI clearance.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000964

The NBI is charging 130 for every clearance.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000965

And 30...

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000966

So, 160 yan.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000967

30 pesos is for the provider ng system.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000968

And out of that, under the law, the modernization law of NBI,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000969

we are supposed to receive 30% of the earnings,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000970

but not more than 150 million.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000971

So, lumalagpas po kami rin sa 150 kung 30% yung pagbabasihan.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-000972

So, we're just getting 150 million po every year.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000973

Thank you.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000974

Any other?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000975

PAO ba merong kinikita?

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000976

By virtue of PAO law, co-sponsor po kayo nun.

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000977

Section 16D, the cost of suit, attorney's fees, and contingent fees

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000978

imposed upon the adversary of the PAO clients after a successful litigation

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000979

shall be deposited to the National Treasury as trust fund.

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000980

Ang overall pong na-deposit na natin sa trust fund,

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000981

Agent PAO National Treasury Account ay

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000982

243,476,758.98

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000983

pesos.

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000984

Sa buong 2025 po, 44,687,000 plus.

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000985

So, wala po kami nakukuha rito.

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000986

Pero sa batas po, nakalagay,

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000987

shall be dispersed for the special allowances of authorized officials,

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000988

lawyers of the PAO.

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000989

Hindi pa rin namin nakuha.

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000990

Pati po yung upgrading ng senior para equivalent sa napros,

PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta

asr-000991

hindi pa rin po natutupad ng DBM.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000992

Let's cut to the chase.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000993

Ano lang, long and short, magkano yung universe?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000994

18 billion yung na-remit in 2025.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000995

Magkano yung nakabalik lang sa buong department?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000996

Let me clarify.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000997

Nag-remit kayo in 2025 ng income generated na

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000998

18 billion, 715 million,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-000999

924 thousand.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001000

Magkano yung ibabalik sa inyo itong 2026?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001001

Dito sa NEP, under special accounts.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-001002

Sorry, we'll just add yung the total.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-001003

Special account lang po.

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-001004

Yung mga na ibabalik.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001005

NEP is just a proposed appropriations eh.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001006

So, kaya nga nire-review ng Congress yan, di ba?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001007

Kasi nasa amin yung authorization phase.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001008

So, we want to find out,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001009

out of the 18 billion that you have remitted in 2025,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001010

magkano yung total lang na binabalik sa inyo

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001011

under special accounts?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001012

Meron pa bang ibang nababalik na outside the special accounts?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001013

Wala na, di ba?

DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar

asr-001014

Wala na, sir.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001015

Okay, magkano yung binabalik sa inyo itong ano?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001016

Ang nasa akin dito,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001017

1.78 billion for LRA.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001018

Ito yung sinasabi nga from the 20%,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001019

which is short ng kulang ng 5%, ano?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001020

Tapos, 118.6 million for OSG.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001021

Yun lang eh.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001022

Wala bang ibang naambunan pa rito, ibang agencies?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001023

Ito lang ba yung total?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001024

...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001025

...

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001026

Your Honor, the PCGG also has our Chairman, Justice Sadang.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001027

Go ahead, Justice.

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001028

Good morning, Your Honors.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001029

Teka muna, tama-tama.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001030

Dito pala yung director for ng DBM.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001031

So, siya yung gagang-up natin this morning.

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001032

Sa PCGG po,

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001033

we were able to remit to the...

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001034

National Treasury,

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001035

1,571,000,000 pesos.

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001036

We are entitled to 10%,

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001037

but 5% of that,

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001038

we give to the OSG

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001039

because OSG represents the government

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001040

in our cases filed in court.

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001041

So, out of the 1.5 billion,

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001042

we were able to...

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001043

Only the amount of 23 million

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001044

was

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001050

availed of by the PCGG.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001051

So, diyan ang galing yung...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001052

Ano?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001053

Universe pala.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001054

Yung 118 million ng for OSG

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001055

under the NEP.

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001056

Yes.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001057

Yun yung sinasabing yung

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001058

papunta sa...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001059

Galing sa inyo.

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001060

Part.

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001061

Part of it.

PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang

asr-001062

Yes, Mr. Senator.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001063

Thank you.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001064

So, medyo mahaba yung 10 minutes

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001065

para mapagbigay niyong iba.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001066

Mamaya na lang ako second round.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001067

Sige.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001068

I'll wait 3 minutes.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001069

Okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001070

We now have our chairman

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001071

of the Finance Committee.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001072

Do you have the floor,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001073

Senator JV?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001074

Go ahead.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001075

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001076

Nagmaga po sa DOJ family.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001077

Anyway,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001078

tanong ko siyempre tungkol sa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001079

budget, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001080

Dahil napansin ko lang na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001081

of course,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001082

just like any other departments

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001083

and agencies,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001084

because of the very

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001085

limited fiscal space this year,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001086

everyone received

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001087

the signature

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001088

significant budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001089

slashing of budget, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001090

Lahat po halos, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001091

And the Department of Justice

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001092

submitted a total budget request

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001093

of 121.629 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001094

but only 38.2%

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001095

of this or 46.435 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001096

was recommended by DBM.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001097

So, for example,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001098

for BI,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001099

amount of 1.602 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001100

intended for ICT-related expansion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001101

was not recommended.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001102

For Bucor,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001103

sizable amount of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001104

63.5 billion

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001105

was not recommended

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001106

intended for construction

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001107

of various prison facilities.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001108

Tapos,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001109

siguro tanong ko na lang din po,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001110

significant,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001111

medyo significant

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001112

ang reduction

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001113

yung tungkol sa mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001114

confidential funds.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001115

As you know that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001116

this budget season,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001117

we will be very strict

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001118

that we will limit only

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001119

confidential

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001120

and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001121

and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001122

and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001123

and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001124

and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001125

and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001126

confidential funds

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001127

and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001128

intelligence funds

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001129

only for agencies

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001130

that have something to do with

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001131

national security,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001132

law enforcement,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001133

and of course,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001134

investigation.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001135

And DOJ, of course,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001136

with NBI

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001137

being

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001138

the investigative arm

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001139

are the only ones

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001140

that will

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001141

are one

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001142

one of the departments

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001143

that will be allowed.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001144

Tanong ko lang po, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001145

Yung sa confidential pan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001146

medyo malaki din yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001147

nabawas.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001148

Siguro,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001149

sekretary,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001150

then probably

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001151

we'll ask the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001152

attorney, Melvin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001153

Matibag,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001154

NBI director,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001155

what will be the effect?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001156

Kasi po, marami,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001157

I understand, marami tayong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001158

witnesses,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001159

yung mga witness protection

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001160

program,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001161

dito yung rin natin kinukuha

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001162

or

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001163

or aside from that,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001164

yung mga pang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001165

ano natin sa mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001166

information

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001167

and witnesses

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001168

is

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001169

derived from the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001170

confidential funds.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001171

So, what will be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001172

affected,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001173

sekretary Vida?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001174

Salamat po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001175

ng marami,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001176

Senator JV.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001177

Ang malaki po talagang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001178

maano,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001179

kasi sa confidential

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001180

activities

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001181

para po sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001182

kaalaman ng lahat.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001183

Nilalatag kasi natin yan

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001184

para matiyak natin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001185

para pag may

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001186

na-pick up na

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001187

informasyon

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001188

ay handa tayo.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001189

Batid po natin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001190

ang kahalagahan nito

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001191

pero

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001192

ang amin pong

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001193

hiling sana ay

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001194

maibalik man lang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001195

yung 2026 level

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001196

para po hindi

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001197

maapektuhan

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001198

ng malaki.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001199

Tulad po ngayon,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001200

napak...

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001201

What is the 2026 level?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001202

For the record.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001203

For the record po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001204

2026 level

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001205

is 1.1 billion.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001206

This year is

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001207

for 2027,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001208

it's 579.4.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001209

Am I correct?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001210

Opo.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001211

So, it's 45.8%.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001212

It's lower.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001213

45.8%.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001214

Yes, opo.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001215

Sige po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001216

Sige, please proceed.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001217

This is basically

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001218

broken down po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001219

para sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001220

office of the

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001221

secretary proper.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001222

May balik po yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001223

214 million.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001224

Kasi ang proposal po ngayon

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001225

ay sa NEP ay

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001226

34 lamang.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001227

Para yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001228

sa WPP po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001229

may balik yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001230

500 million.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001231

Kasi ang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001232

sa NEP po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001233

ay 319.9...

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001234

319 million,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001235

900,000.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001236

May balik po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001237

actually nga po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001238

yung sa IACAT,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001239

napapansin po namin,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001240

interagency,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001241

yung 10 million po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001242

ay kulang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001243

at talaga pong

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001244

kailangan pa namin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001245

dagdagan

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001246

dahil may

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001247

dagdag pong hamon.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001248

Yung cybercrime po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001249

na 475,000

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001250

na isung manaming

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001251

manumbalik

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001252

dahil

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001253

ang kagandahan po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001254

dun sa laban mo

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001255

sa cybercrime

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001256

yung atin pong

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001257

mga ginagampanan

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001258

sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001259

mandatong ito

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001260

ay

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001261

akalinsabay

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001262

ng ating

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001263

Office of the Cybercrime

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001264

ng DOJ

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001265

na dyan po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001266

ang NBI

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001267

na dyan po yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001268

DICT

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001269

at iba po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001270

ang ahensya.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001271

So,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001272

may balik lamang po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001273

yung 475.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001274

Ang isa pa ho namin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001275

sana ho

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001276

Senator

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001277

ay yung sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001278

yung sa NCC

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001279

o SAEK. Dahil

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001280

nagiging komplikado po yung laban

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001281

natin doon. Sana po yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001282

yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001283

5 million

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001284

yung zero po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001285

na hindi po binigyan

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001286

ng confidential fund

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001287

para dito sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001288

NCC o SAEK o SAEM.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001289

Sana po ay mabigyan kahit

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001290

5 million po, Your Honor.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001291

Ito po yung para po sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001292

Department of

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001293

Justice proper. Of course,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001294

may hiwalay po sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001295

amin pong pamilya. Meron

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001296

po din hiwalay na request ng

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001297

confidential fund at may allocation

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001298

ang Bureau of Immigration

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001299

na

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001300

for 2027

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001301

ay 20 million po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001302

ang sa Bureau of Immigration.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001303

Maari pong

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001304

si

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001305

Commissioner Viado po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001306

ang mag

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001307

lahat ng kung ano magiging

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001308

epekto kung ano. Please.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001309

Yes, Commissioner

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001310

Viado. So, 20 million

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001311

for 2027. How much

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001312

for 2026?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001313

20 million

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001314

po for 2026,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001315

Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001316

Ah, same, 20 million. So, pareho lang po?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001317

Pareho lang po, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001318

So, ano pong mapiktuhan?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001319

Would you

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001320

request additional or that's

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001321

enough for the agency?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001321-split-2

Makakatulong po ng malaki

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001322

sa amin ang

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001323

additional, ano po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001324

pabudget po para dyan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001325

Considering, Your Honors,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001326

ang amin pong mga intelligence

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001327

agents who have been operating

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001328

nationwide, at the moment po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001329

wala pa hong 100 ho yan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001330

Tapos po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001331

nagre-request po kami

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001332

sa DBM ng additional

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001333

positions. Ang amin pong

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001334

fugitive search unit, yung pong

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001335

mga humahabol o tumutugi sa mga

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001336

pugante, wala pa hong dalawang

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001337

po yan, Your Honor. So, imagine niyo

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001338

po yung aming

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001339

constraints pagdating sa

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001340

pagpapalabas ng

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001341

mga hahabol po at tutugis

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001342

at magagadar ng intelligence.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001343

Ano po, 20 million po yan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001344

Nationwide po ang

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001345

operations namin. So, makakatulong po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001346

ng malaki kung yan po ay matatagdagan,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001347

Your Honors.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001347-split-2

What is the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001348

proposal?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001349

If possible po, Your Honor,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001350

50 to 100 percent of that.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001351

So, additional, ano po, 10 to

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-001352

20 million would be very much. I think, Senator,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001353

Blackson would like to interject.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001354

Ano lang, just to highlight yung pagiging

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001355

pretence, yung cybercrime,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001356

425,000, that's

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001357

annual, no? That's for one year?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001358

That's for one year.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001359

Okay. So, kung i-divide mo ng 12,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001360

35,000 a month?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001361

Apo.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001362

Yun lang, Mr. Chairman, para lang

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001363

makita natin na ganun ka

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001364

parang walang silbi.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001365

Kasi if you have 35,000 monthly

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001366

intelligence fund, ano ma-accomplish mo?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001367

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001368

Kaya lang,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001369

magaganap ang cybercrime.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001370

I mean,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001371

part of the reason,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001372

a factor, a major factor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001373

Go ahead, Senator Jamie.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001374

And also, cybercrime is a

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001375

clear and present danger, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001376

Talagang everyone, masyado na marami

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001377

rin ang apektado sa cybercrime.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001378

Sen, sa pagpapatuloy po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001379

kung pwede po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001380

ang NBI po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001381

ang ga-a po nila

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001382

for 2026 is

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001383

350,400,000.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001384

Pero sa NEP po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001385

for 2027,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001386

ito po ay binaba sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001387

175,400,000.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001388

Si Director Melvin po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001389

would be able to explain.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-001390

Yes, so probably without

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001391

divulging the specific confidential

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001392

activities, because we know for a fact

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001393

that of course, kayo po ang investigative

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001394

arm ng DOJ.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001395

What will be severely

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001396

affected? Kasi from

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001397

300 plus million,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001398

175 na lang po, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001399

What will be affected, of course, and

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001400

what was the utilization?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001401

Bakit to? Anong reason? Why

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001402

was this slashed by the DBM?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001403

Si Director Ney Matibag?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001404

Good morning po, at maraming salamat po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001405

At mabuti na i-raise po, and even

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001406

during the opening statement of

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001407

good Senator

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001408

Francis Pangilinan, I noticed already

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001409

that there was already an emphasis on the matter.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001410

Originally, tama po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001411

yung sinabi ni Secretary Vida.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001412

Dun sa GAAPO last year,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001413

300 dyan, but actually it's only

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001414

174,000,000.5

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001415

na nagkaroon lang po yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001416

SICA, yung Congressional

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001417

Enhancement po, dinagdagad,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001418

kaya naging 300 po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001419

So, we requested for

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001420

a higher confidential

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001421

funds. We are requesting sana

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001422

of about mga 1 billion po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001423

yan, divided to 12 months.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001424

Because more than the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001425

expenses on the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001426

yung pong operations namin,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001427

we are intending to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001428

procure tools and equipment

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001429

to fight cybercrime.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001430

Right now, we are receiving cybercrime

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001431

complaints. Siguro po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001432

7 out of 10

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001433

complaints involving cybercrime.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001434

Yung alam lang po nung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001435

mga pangkaraniwan po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001436

nating mga kababayan, yung mga cyber

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001437

libel lang. But there are a lot of cyber scams

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001438

happening. Just recently,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001439

I just returned from a trip from

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001440

Bangkok. This morning,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001441

we have a coordination.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001442

With the Homeland Security,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001443

United States Homeland Security Investigation

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001444

and the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001445

CIB of Thailand.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001446

And we found out, ang dami pong

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001447

mga scam na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001448

naging intertwine, naging interrelate po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001449

sa atin dito sa Pilipinas.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001450

It's sad to say na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001451

yung pong ating mga criminals

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001452

ngayon, medyo mas nagiging advanced pa.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001453

If you recall, when Pogo

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001454

was banned by the President,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001455

yung pong mga Pogo na to,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001456

they collapsed their operation into scam.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001457

Scam hub. Lab scam.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001458

Mahalo-halo na po yan. Cryptocurrency.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001459

So marami naman pong tools.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001460

We've been attending conferences

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001461

kung saan yung mga tools were presented.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001462

And it's very difficult

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001463

to get hold of it

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001464

going through the usual procurement

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001465

process. So yung nire-request

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001466

po namin increase sana dito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001467

for the confidential funds is for us

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001468

to procure these tools to fight

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001469

yung ganito pong mga criminal activities.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001470

And right now,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001471

just to give the easier,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001472

explanation, why are we asking for

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001473

for a higher confidential funds.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001474

Last year, we are averaging

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001475

about 110 operations

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001476

monthly. Magkakasama na po yan

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001477

yung successful tsaka yung pong mga operations

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001478

na hindi naman po talaga admittedly

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001479

hindi lahat ng operations will be

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001480

successful. But starting po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001481

nitong maddang mga April,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001482

nag-erange na po kami ng 200 to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001483

220 operations.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001484

Every month po, Director?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001485

200 to 220 operations

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001486

monthly po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001487

And I think the good Senator Ping Laxon

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001488

can very well relate to this.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001489

Kasi meron pong co-plan na tinatawag yan.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001490

And in this co-plan, we spend so much

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001491

to yung mga witnesses,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001492

information gathering, surveillance,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001493

which will last from 3 weeks to 1 month.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001494

Yung ikot po ng tao.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001495

So let's say, on the average,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001496

we'll spend 100 to 200,000 pesos

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001497

per operations.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001498

At 200 operations

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001499

per month,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001500

that's already about 40 million po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001501

ang kailangan natin na,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001502

expenses.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001503

Let me cite a specific example

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001504

ng operation namin na napakalaki po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001505

ng gastos. I'm sure everybody

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001506

heard about yung operation namin going

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001507

after substandard metals

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001508

and radioactive materials.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001509

Yung pagbili pa lang po namin ng mga samples

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001510

dyan. Anyway, this can be

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001511

details dahil, ano lang naman po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001512

minimum lang. Yung mga bakal po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001513

na bibili namin, will already

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001514

cost about millions.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001515

So yun po yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001516

hinihiling namin dito.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001517

And of course, I know

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001518

that the Senate can

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001519

very well exercise oversight

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001520

na hindi ba natin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001521

i-devolge yung ano po rito,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001522

yung ating pong operational capacity

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001523

because of the national security issue.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001524

Open naman po kami dun sa ganoon.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001525

And mostly yun pong tools. Good thing po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001526

there are people that we help,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001527

Agriculturalist Valley, that I know that

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001528

the interest of good Senator Senator Francis,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001529

ngayon po ang NBI,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001530

we're able to apprehend about 15

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001531

billion worth of illegally

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001532

yung pong mga smuggled

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001533

na goods.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001534

We catch 59 containers

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001535

of illegal cigarettes po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001536

Based on the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001537

computation of beer, 15 billion po yan.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001538

So tuloy-tuloy po yan.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001539

At ang ginagawa po namin,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001540

from surveillance to apprehension

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001541

until dalhin po namin sa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001542

national prosecution.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001543

So medyo mahaba po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001544

na trabaho, na yun po talaga

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001545

yung kailangan namin na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001546

additional na fundings.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001547

And I have to mention that

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001548

Secre-Vida, yung po kanilang confidential,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001549

to augment yung samin,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001550

nag-uusap po kami, nagdadagdag po po sila

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001551

sa amin para magawa po namin yun.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001552

And si Commissioner Joel

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001553

mentioned about the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001554

FSU po niya,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001555

ino-augment din po namin yun.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001556

We have very good coordination para po magawa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001557

namin yan. So that will be

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001558

the reason. But of course, whatever will be

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001559

given to us, we will make good of

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001560

what we can do.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001561

We will try to maintain kung ano po yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001562

nagagawa namin and improve it. Salamat po.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001563

Just on that point,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001564

Senator J,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001565

with your permission. In fact,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001566

sa DBCC

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001567

presentation, sabi ng BSP,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001568

of the retail

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001569

payments

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001570

nationwide,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001571

64% are

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001572

online. So sa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001573

bawat sampu na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001574

bayaran na retail,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001575

6% e online.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001576

So understandably so,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001577

yung cyber

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001578

criminal

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001579

activities,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001580

alaki nung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001581

makukuha nila

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001582

dahil

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001583

trilyon actually ang mga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001584

transaksyon. Tapos

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001585

34,000 a day, ano, a month.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-001586

35,000 per month.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001587

So that's really a cause

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001588

for concern. The other thing that

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001589

si Senator Ping,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001590

with your permission, Senator JV,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001591

yung customs

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001592

modernization measured kasi,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001593

merong component doon

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001594

na pagka may mga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001595

rewards, ini-implement

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001596

ba ninyo yun?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001597

Hindi po kami nakaka-implement

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001598

doon. Actually,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001599

let's say, for example, yung pong aming operations

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001600

na latest nga, what we were able

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001601

to up, and 59 containers of

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001602

smuggled cigarettes,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001603

tinaturn over po namin sa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001604

BOC yan. Tapos,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001605

or ang

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001606

mga

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001607

WSD po, yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001608

either sa BIR nga po, or sa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001609

Bureau of Customs. But that's a good idea

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001610

because we're discussing it na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001611

probably we'll have to claim also for that

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001612

so that we can get a reward

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001613

and upgrade whatever capacity

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001614

that we have in the enforcement.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001615

I-check ninyo kasi, hindi naman

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001616

siguro, pero baka merong tumatanggap

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001617

nung reward, pero hindi nyo alam

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001618

na nakapangalan sa inyo.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001619

Biro lang.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001620

Go ahead, sir.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001621

Thank you.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001622

Dagdag na natin because cybercrime is part

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001623

of NBI's, ano, no? Isa sa mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001624

talagang inaano nyo yun, natin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001625

focus, no? And it

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001626

was pointed out earlier by Senator

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001627

Lackson, no? 475,000

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001628

yung is office of the cybercrime

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001629

na confidential fund.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001630

So, sa NBI,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001631

dun sa 175 million,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001632

part na rin po ba yun? Do you spend also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001633

for, of course, sa cybercrime,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001634

mga ilan po kaya ang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001635

ginagastos nyo ron? Kasi,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001636

nabawasan na nga yung sa inyong, ano, yung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001637

usual, yung from 300

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001638

to 175, no? So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001639

kasama rin to ang cybercrime.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001640

Yes, sir.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001641

Alamsam na po ito, eh.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001642

So, yung per-operation namin,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001643

we'll devote the dedicated expenses

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001644

na kailangan po. Ang naiiwan

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001645

nga po, yung desire sana namin to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001646

upgrade our law enforcement

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001647

capacity by procuring the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001648

necessary equipment and tools.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001649

Kasi po, magkiba pa yung cybercrime

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001650

sa cyberprod, eh. So,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001651

yung cyberprod, dun nga po yung mas mabigat.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001652

May mas mga economic impact po talaga

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001653

ito, eh, na tinitingnan po namin.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001654

Ang sinasabi ko nga,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001655

probably the next budget

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001656

cycle, hihimayin namin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001657

na dapat ito yung kailangan namin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001658

confidential funds for

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001659

the cybercrime, for the cyberprod,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001660

for the USAIC, for the CISAM.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001661

Lahat po yan, eh. May

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001662

transnational tries pa po kami. And,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001663

I would like to mention, insert ko na rin po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001664

na we are intending

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001665

to put sana,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001666

NBI liaison

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001667

in other countries, yung sa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001668

mga embassies po natin, that we have the strong

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001669

presence of our OFWs.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001670

Kasi, napansin po namin na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001671

tumataas po yung cases

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001672

ng mga cyberprod, dahil nabibiktima po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001673

yung mga OFWs natin.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001674

And it will be good if we have an

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001675

NBI attache

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001676

representing para po doon,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001677

ma-process, matulungan na po natin yung atin po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001678

mga kababayan na OFW.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001679

Anyway, it's provided for under the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001680

Republic of Modernizing the,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001681

the NBI, na kailangan po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001682

meron po tayong mga

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001683

attache din po. And then,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001684

other than that,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001685

the coordination with our counterparts abroad

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001686

will be easier for us to address

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001687

transnational crimes po.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001688

With the permission

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001689

of Senator JV, bakit hindi na-implementa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001690

kung meron ng

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001691

provision sa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001692

modernization ng NBI?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001693

Well, unang-una na po yun, yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001694

budgetary constraint po talaga.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001695

So, right now, what we are doing,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001696

we form a technical working group to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001697

coordinate it with the Department

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001698

of Foreign Affairs for us to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001699

implement it po.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001700

Perhaps, baka masyadong malaki

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001701

hinihingi ninyo. Baka dapat mag-upisa doon

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001702

sa mga areas lang na...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001703

Kung mga ipilot nyo muna, di ba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001704

Yes, go ahead.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001705

We are targeting muna yung areas like

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001706

Middle East, then sa Europe,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001707

then sa South America,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001708

then dito po sa Asia, yung malaki po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001709

na presence. Hindi po lahat ng ating

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001710

ng embassy.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001711

Hindi po sa malaki presence.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001712

Timeline, Director,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001713

as to when you can implement

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001714

portions, provisions of the law?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001715

Well, kung malagyan po natin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001716

ang kaukulan po na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001717

kailangan na budget,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001718

we are already preparing the framework.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001719

We are...

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001720

Meron naman po kami mga counterparts like the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001721

very constant coordination with the FBI

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001722

na meron po silang attache

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001723

everywhere na kung paano po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001724

namin gagawin. So, mabilis na lang po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001725

siguro, with the next year,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001726

meron na po tayo mga...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001727

I-forget natin next year para

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001728

maikasana.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001729

and we'll help you

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001730

as chairman of the committee on justice

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001731

maraming salamat po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001732

doon sa cyber

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001733

cybercrime, cyberfraud, cyberlibel

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001734

yung karamihan yan, hinahawakan nyo rin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001735

so siguro dahil

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001736

very prevalent na yung cyberfraud

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001737

ngayon, halos lahat online na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001738

yung mga scam at lahat

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001739

just to give us an idea

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001740

how many cases do you

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001741

handle of cyberfraud kaya

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001742

just to give us a ballpark

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001743

figure every, at least every month

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001744

well, every month na lang po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001745

very basic, pagsabay na po natin yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001746

tatlo, on the average we're about getting

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001747

7 to 8 cases po, out of

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001748

10, sa NBI po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001749

kung hindi man po sa directly related

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001750

yung mga crimes po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001751

na ginawa, eh, related

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001752

po sa cyber, let me say

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001753

sa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001754

example, yung pong nangyayari ngayon

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001755

yung nihilistic violence

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001756

that is cyber, at yung monitoring

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001757

po natin dyan, nasa deep web po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001758

sila dyan, sa dark web, kailangan natin makita

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001759

and we are doing

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001760

our best to monitor it, and incidentally

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001761

report ko lang po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001762

yesterday, we were able to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001763

get hold of one of the individuals

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001764

na somehow

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001765

related to what happened in South Cotabato

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001766

and yesterday also

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001767

we made an apprehension

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001768

of one of suspected groomers

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001769

from Cebu, and

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001770

with the help of the NPS and DOJ

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001771

we will be processing it today

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001772

and probably by the next coming days

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001773

there will be 10 rescue of individuals

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001774

who belong to that group, yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001775

COA po at sa NBI groups po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001776

pero kung meron po siguro

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001777

kaming

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001778

yung sinasabi kong

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001779

tools namin, which are available

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001780

adyan na naman po yung mga tools na yan

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001781

that ang sakin lang po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001782

it should not go to the ordinary procurement

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001783

because that is something that somehow

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001784

like a trade secret for law

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001785

enforcement, eh baka mas mabilis

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001786

po sana, but we're doing

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001787

our best and with the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001788

coordination of DOJ po and other

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001789

DSWD also

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001790

eh meron naman po tayong progress ngayon dito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001791

and we will make that report

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001792

also to the Senate po

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001793

on that point

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001794

Director

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001795

meron tayong mga nalalakap na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001796

informasyon na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001797

parang unusual

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001798

or hindi pangkaraniwan

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001799

yung tatlong beses

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001800

sunod-sunod every month

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001801

yung mass shooting

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001802

na never nangyayarin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001803

which leads many

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001804

to suspect that this is actually

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001805

organized

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001806

syndicated and calibrated

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001807

and I wouldn't be surprised if it is

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001808

as a means

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001809

to create chaos

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001810

to

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001811

create instability

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001812

to

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001813

create fear

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001814

because

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001815

and to make government

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001816

look weak

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001817

in other words

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001818

that asked Angel

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001819

ako, nung lakarang eleksyon

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001820

ako yung valediktorian ng disinformation eh

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001821

mga 100 million views

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001822

ng paninira

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001823

directed at me

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001824

na hundreds of

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001825

or billions of pesos worth

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001826

in other words, I know it can be done

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001827

yung paninira

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001828

it's actually done

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001829

and I'm a victim of that

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001830

so if it can be done

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001831

in electoral campaigns

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001832

then it can also be done

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001833

today

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001834

kasi ako

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001835

you know, it got me thinking

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001836

never

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001837

in our 20 plus years

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001838

in the senate

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001839

that you have a mass shooting

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001840

every month

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001841

out of the blue

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001842

this year alone

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001843

and I remember also

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001844

yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001845

when I was NFA chairman of the board

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001846

nagkaroon ng issue

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001847

on plastic rice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001848

nagkaroon ng frenzy

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001849

natakot yung tao

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001850

dahil daw baka yung kinakain nila

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001851

ay lason

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001852

and when we monitored it

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001853

merong orchestrated effort

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001854

to spread this information

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001855

to make

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001856

kaya ako yung NFA chairman eh

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001857

so what we did to counter it

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001858

kung everyday

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001859

meron silang nilalabas na information

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001860

about fake rice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001861

everyday may nilalabas kaming information

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001862

about testing these

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001863

reports

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001864

and belaying

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001865

the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001866

rumors

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001867

of fake rice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001868

we had 111 reports of fake rice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001869

nationwide

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001870

and we tested 111

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001871

of those rice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001872

reported as fake

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001873

and only one was actually contaminated

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001874

so it was a frenzy

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001875

it was a hype

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001876

it was orchestrated

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001877

we believe that

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001878

to create fear

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001879

and anger

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001880

and so I'm just concerned

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001881

please

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001882

whatever you can divulge

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001883

go ahead

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001884

but if you think that will

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001885

compromise your own investigations

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-001886

feel free to say so

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001887

well within the agency po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001888

as regards to NBE cases

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001889

we are preparing

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001890

a legislative framework

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001891

that we will submit to the Senate

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001892

and the House of Representatives

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001893

so representative

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001894

eto na po yung tinatawag naming

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001895

age gating

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001896

wherein the use of the social media

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001897

of the cyber

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001898

will be somehow monitored

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001899

so we are using the term age gating

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001900

so depende po sa edad

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001901

kung paano natin ito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001902

papagamitin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001903

at paano na gamitin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001904

and yung trust assessment analytics po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001905

na kailangan natin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001906

dun po pumapasok yung pinag-uusapan natin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001907

na may pangangailangan po kami

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001908

sa additional na pondo

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001909

para po maka-cope up po ito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001910

tayo dun

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001911

tapos coordination with the school

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001912

yung threat validation

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001913

yung school response po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001914

na gagawin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001915

which what we did

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001916

kaya po namin nakuha

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001917

itong personality

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001918

from South Cotabato

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001919

because of the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001920

assistance of the schools

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001921

evolved po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001922

dito sa ating ginagawa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001923

but I agree with you

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001924

Senator

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001925

napakadali pong gumawa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001926

ng mga istorya ngayon

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001927

at nakikita naman natin yan

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001928

araw-araw

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001929

and that is what we want to pipe

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001930

kami po sa NBI

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001931

we don't want that our

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001932

electoral process

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001933

our judicial process

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001934

our legislative process

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001935

at yung ginagawa ng ating gobyerno

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001936

will be dictated by people

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001937

who can manipulate

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001938

dito po sa cyberspace

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001939

wherein nangyayari po talaga

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001940

at nakikita natin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001941

and easy to blame

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001942

we don't want to blame anyone

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001943

dito sa nangyayari ito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001944

some people are too easy to say

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001945

that they're blaming the government

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001946

dahil nangyayari ito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001947

pero if you will look po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001948

that is a valid concern

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001949

na Senator Francis

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001950

ano po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001951

sapagkat na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001952

dun tinitingnan po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001953

po namin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001954

talagang may mga

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001955

signals eh

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001956

halo-halo na po to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001957

meron talagang

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001958

NBA group

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001959

meron naman po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001960

mga lurkers na tinatawag

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001961

na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001962

kinokopia lang ito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001963

meron as simple as

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001964

yung estudyante

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001965

hindi nakagawa ng homework

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001966

magsasabi na may

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001967

shooting na mangyayari

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001968

so those are the things

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001969

that we want to monitor

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001970

as a team

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001971

within the family of DOJ

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001972

and of course

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001973

ang NBI po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001974

we want to be

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001975

very active on this one

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001976

meron po kaming mga ehente

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001977

na kayang gawin ito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001978

but we are really

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001979

lacking of the tools

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001980

that we need

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001981

and I was just happy to say

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001982

yung iba pong tools namin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001983

we have private partners

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001984

like

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001985

Philip Morris

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001986

that they were very happy

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001987

with our

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001988

performance

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001989

dun po sa agriculture smuggling

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001990

that they are donating

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001991

drones for us

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001992

to use for our

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001993

crime fighting

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001994

so

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001995

sana po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001996

yung gobyerno natin mismo

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001997

through your help

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001998

we're able to raise

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-001999

the funds that we need

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002000

and

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002001

you have our commitment

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002002

that we will use it

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002003

for this purpose

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002004

so that sigurado tayo

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002005

yung ating pong mga electoral process

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002006

will not be manipulated

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002007

yung ating pong judicial process

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002008

senate process

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002009

will not be manipulated

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002010

by the people

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002011

who have the edge

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002012

sa social media po natin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002013

sa cyberspace

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002014

because they are being supported by

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002015

a powerful group somehow

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002016

you know you said that no

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002017

sa akin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002018

it's bad enough kung lokal

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002019

I mean hindi dapat diba

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002020

worse kung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002021

kung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002022

foreign

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002023

ang nangingelam sa atin dito

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002024

diba

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002025

and that's why

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002026

you need

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002027

we need to beef up your

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002028

capacity

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002029

diba

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002030

to be able to check

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002031

and

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002032

counter

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002033

and

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002034

and

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002035

make the necessary arrests

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002036

you know

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002037

findings and arrests

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002038

and

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002039

address itong mga issues

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002040

kung talagang

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002041

yun na nga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002042

merong foreign hand

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002043

no

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002044

you wish to say something

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002045

yes if I may

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002046

for the department of justice

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002047

we share

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002048

probably the agony

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002049

or the difficulty of the DBM

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002050

in allocating

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002051

the finite resources of the government

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002052

but we confirm

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002053

the women and men of the department of justice

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002054

each attached agencies

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002055

will fulfill its mandate

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002056

whatever the resources will be shared with us

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002057

or whatever will be shared with us

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002058

whatever will be allowed

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002059

but we also confirm

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002060

that we definitely

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002061

need

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002062

to conduct

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002063

these confidential activities

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002064

so that

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002065

so that we will

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002066

completely

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002067

fulfill our mandates

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002068

your honors

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002069

and we submit to the

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002070

good sense of the senate

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002071

and the congress

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002072

on how we will be funded

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002073

on all these requests

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002074

your honors

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002075

thank you secretary

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002076

go ahead sir

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002077

thank you

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002078

anyway

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002079

just to continue

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002080

siguro we need to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002081

strengthen the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002082

cyber

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002083

cyber unit

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002084

yung anti-cyber crime

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002085

cyber fraud

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002086

cyber libel units

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002087

of all departments

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002088

lalo na PNP

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002089

and of course NBI

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002090

considering that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002091

in this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002092

day and modern age

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002093

it's

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002094

sabi ko

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002095

clear and present

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002096

danger na ito lahat eh

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002097

halos lahat

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002098

fraud

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002099

online na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002100

no

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002101

and kaya yung sinabi

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002102

ng ating pong chairman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002103

yung what happens

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002104

ang problema nun

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002105

sometimes

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002106

they're already

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002107

itong too much freedom

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002108

also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002109

sama kayong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002110

meron sila nung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002111

ganung

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002112

luxury

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002113

kaya lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002114

sometimes it's

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002115

boarding already

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002116

on

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002117

meron si Dishon

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002118

yung mga anti-government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002119

but

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002120

ano na eh

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002121

dapat

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002122

it's not helping

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002123

our country as a whole

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002124

I think we are also

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002125

victims of this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002126

kaming mga politiko

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002127

hindi nalang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002128

pinapansin kasi

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002129

tabaho nalang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002130

pero

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002131

yung pa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002132

for example

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002133

yung sinasabi

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002134

niya

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002135

setor pangilina

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002136

na merong foreign

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002137

it is possible

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002138

attorney Melvin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002139

and may director

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002140

yung foreign

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002141

funding

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002142

is it possible

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002143

that they are funding

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002144

efforts

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002145

to discredit

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002146

the government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002147

as

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002148

some of the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002149

personalities

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002150

that are

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002151

identified

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002152

that are against

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002153

their government

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002154

for example

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002155

with the issue

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002156

of West Philippine Sea

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002157

pakinamdam ko

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002158

marami rito sa mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002159

trolls at warriors

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002160

ay funded by China

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002161

and the same time

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002162

of course

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002163

opposition

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002164

yung nasa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002165

iba-ibang ano rin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002166

sa politika

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002167

but

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002168

is it possible

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002169

that they are

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002170

funding this

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002171

and can we monitor

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002172

that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002173

indeed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002174

an external

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002175

or a

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002176

foreign

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002177

funding

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002178

is being

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002179

used

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002180

to fund

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002181

itong mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002182

for social

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002183

media activities

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002184

well

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002185

thank you po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002186

Mr. Chair

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002187

we have

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002188

strong

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002189

indication

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002190

that our

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002191

information

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002192

manipulation

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002193

and interference

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002194

by

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002195

foreign entities

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002196

not necessarily

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002197

the government

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002198

but

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002199

there is

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002200

an effort

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002201

to do that

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002202

because

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002203

pag tinusundan po namin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002204

nakikita namin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002205

papunta rin sa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002206

direction na yon

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002207

at hindi na lang po yon

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002208

let's not say na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002209

foreign government

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002210

or

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002211

foreign sovereign

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002212

there are

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002213

organized crimes

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002214

related

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002215

transnational

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002216

foreign po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002217

na talagang

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002218

openly

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002219

ginagawa po to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002220

sa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002221

hindi na po yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002222

paninira sa gobyerno

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002223

but

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002224

yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002225

cyber scam

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002226

yung po mga ginagawa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002227

that is

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002228

directly affect

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002229

and impact

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002230

the economics

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002231

of the government

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002232

and even politically

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002233

will affect that

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002234

I mentioned earlier

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002235

that the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002236

election

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002237

2028 is coming

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002238

there can be

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002239

conditioning

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002240

being used

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002241

the platform

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002242

na funded by

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002243

a foreign entity

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002244

not necessarily

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002245

again the foreign

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002246

sovereign

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002247

pero

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002248

there are strong

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002249

indications

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002250

and

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002251

yan po siguro

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002252

if I may share

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002253

yesterday

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002254

mula Monday

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002255

hanggang po nung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002256

yesterday

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002257

I was attending

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002258

the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002259

transnational

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002260

convention

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002261

sponsored by

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002262

Homeland Security

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002263

at tayo lang po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002264

yung nandon

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002265

it's the effort

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002266

ng Homeland Security

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002267

ng US

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002268

by the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002269

NBI

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002270

together with

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002271

some agents

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002272

from immigration

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002273

we are

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002274

in the direction

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002275

of

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002276

putting up

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002277

a trans

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002278

national crime

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002279

investigation unit

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002280

and we will

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002281

there will be

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002282

helping us

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002283

okay lang po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002284

kung may foreign

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002285

intervention

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002286

na tumutulong

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002287

sa atin eh

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002288

yung hindi

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002289

nakakasama

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002290

to fight

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002291

ang target po nito

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002292

is to fight

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002293

yung mga syndicate

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002294

nga

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002295

organized crimes

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002296

ng iba't ibang

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002297

bansa

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002298

meron po kasing

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002299

mga target sila

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002300

that they will

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002301

recruit Filipino

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002302

bring it to the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002303

golden triangle

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002304

pass through Bangkok

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002305

eto po yung mga

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002306

address natin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002307

and this group

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002308

pag tinitingnan po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002309

they're not

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002310

they're the one

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002311

funding also

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002312

kung ano po yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002313

pwedeng maging mga gulo

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002314

dun sa bansa na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002315

tinatarget po nila

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002316

so yung pong

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002317

sabakal namin na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002318

ni Ray

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002319

there's an indication

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002320

that is a foreign

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002321

intervention

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002322

marami po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002323

well yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002324

marami

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002325

alam ng

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002326

DA yan

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002327

at ng BOC

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002328

yung agriculture

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002329

smuggling

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002330

lahat ng

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002331

kumpanya na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002332

na may

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002333

meron

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002334

foreign companies

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002335

na exporter

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002336

puro China eh

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002337

Fujian

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002338

tapos ang sistema

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002339

bibilhin doon

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002340

sindikato

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002341

bibilhin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002342

ng salvage value

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002343

ibig sabihin patapon na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002344

yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002345

shelf life niya

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002346

paso na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002347

diba

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002348

unfit na for human consumption

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002349

bibilhin doon

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002350

dadalhin dito

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002351

Chinese company

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002352

mekasabot dito

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002353

tapos

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002354

dadalhin sa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002355

warehouse

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002356

huhugasan ng formalin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002357

yung manok

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002358

tapos

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002359

inalabas at dadalhin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002360

sa mga palengke

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002361

yan lang po yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002362

kahuhuli namin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002363

the other day,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002364

salt-based na po yung manok,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002365

kinugasan,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002366

nahuli po namin.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002367

Yes,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002368

tapos binibenta ng 120 daw,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002369

peso sa kilo.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002370

Tama po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002371

tama po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002372

Sindikatong kamatang...

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002373

Sa Facebook pa po ginagamit,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002374

sa social media pa po yung transaction,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002375

Senator.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002376

So, talagang matindi,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002377

matindi ang kalaban,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002378

ikaw nga,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002379

na kailangan talagang natin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002380

supportahan yung ating law enforcement

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002381

and ating justice system.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002382

Go ahead, Sir.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002383

Just to continue,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002384

kanina nabanggit nyo,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002385

Director Matibag,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002386

yung inyo pong operation,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002387

100 to 200,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002388

ang operation nyo.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002389

Ito yung mga confidential,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002390

investigative.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002391

Magkano po yung...

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002392

Ano nyan?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002393

Estimate,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002394

not the expense,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002395

just to give us an idea.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002396

Kasi nga,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002397

your confidential fund

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002398

was slashed considerably

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002399

compared for 2027.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002400

So, nabanggit nyo,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002401

grabe pala,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002402

200.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002403

100 to 200 operations monthly.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002404

Sige po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002405

I-advise na lang po natin,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002406

Mr. Chair,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002407

sa 200,000 per operation.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002408

Kasi kasama po dyan yung transportation,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002409

yung hotel,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002410

saka po yung sa information doon.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002411

Sa mga ano po natin,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002412

assets natin,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002413

yung mga intelligence report po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002414

sa average na lang po na 200.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002415

Kung 200,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002416

tapos 200 operations din lang po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002417

that is already about 40 million.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002418

Aman po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002419

And yung pong binigay sa amin na 300

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002420

last year,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002421

hinati po namin yun

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002422

sa 25 million per month.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002423

So, doon pa lang po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002424

makita na rin nyo yung difference.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002425

So, ginagawa ko na lang po dyan,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002426

yung co-plan po na ginagamit,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002427

instead minsan mag-aero plano,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002428

mag-barco na lang kayo.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002429

O,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002430

kung instead na titira kayo,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002431

dito sa ganitong lugar,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002432

ganito na lang,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002433

mas malapit din.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002434

Instead na we will send 20 operatives,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002435

kalahati na lang po yung ipapadala namin.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002436

Ganun po yung pinagtatama namin.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002437

And I have to admit,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002438

meron pong mga halimbawa,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002439

like yun nga,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002440

like Philip Morris will help us,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002441

hindi naman po directly magbigay,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002442

kundi they will provide

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002443

for food provisions.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002444

I'd like to commend also PCSO and PagCorp

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002445

that when it comes doon po sa scam,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002446

especially yung mga illegal operations

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002447

pa ng Pogo at illegal gambling,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002448

they're also helping us.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002449

And of course,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002450

DOJ po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002451

doon po sa binibigay sa kanila na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002452

confidential funds,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002453

si Secretary will also share.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002454

Pag sinabi ko,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002455

Sek, meron kaming operations pa na ganito,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002456

medyo kulang,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002457

eh,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002458

nakakapag-magic naman po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002459

si Secretary Vida,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002460

tinutulungan po kami.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002461

Sa,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002462

sa ano naman po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002463

sa immigration,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002464

pag yung may punitive kaming

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002465

hulihin,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002466

tulong na lang po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002467

hati na lang po sa manpower

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002468

yung ginagawa po namin.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002469

So,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002470

pinagtatama na po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002471

I'm just fortunate

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002472

and I have to commend lang

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002473

the men and women of the

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002474

National Bureau of Investigation

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002475

that,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002476

kahit na po ganun eh,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002477

professional,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002478

na ginagawa po yung trabaho nila.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002479

If I may add?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002480

Yes,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002481

sa Secretary Vida.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002482

We're at a height,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002483

po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002484

yung inter,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002485

yung engagement namin,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002486

BI,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002487

the NBI,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002488

and the DOJ,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002489

for

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002490

several decades now,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002491

wala po tayong nakakasuhan

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002492

sa agricultural smuggling.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002493

Opo,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002494

ngayon lang po tayo nagsimula.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002495

Totoo po yung data natin,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002496

na 45 yung cases na nirefer,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002497

35 binalik namin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002498

for case build-up.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002499

Pero,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002500

that's already a positive sign.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002501

We've,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002502

we've gone a long way po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002503

on this.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002504

And,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002505

sa reports po na naririnig namin,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002506

from,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002507

from the DOF,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002508

it's also triggering

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002509

a parallel

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002510

or a correlated increase

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002511

in excise taxes payments.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002512

May,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002513

may effect po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002514

I,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002515

I don't have the data,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002516

but,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002517

but I've heard that

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002518

from the DOF po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002519

na meron po talagang effect po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002520

When we push for all these

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002521

operations,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002522

yung smuggling,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002523

yung collections sila ng taxes,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002524

gumaganda rin po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002525

And hopefully,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002526

we,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002527

we go into that.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002528

That no one is above the law,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002529

that everyone follows the law.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002530

Kung kailangan magbayad ng taxes,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002531

magbayad ng taxes.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002532

With the permission of Senator JV,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002533

we will confirm that.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002534

Because sa BOC,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002535

itong year na ito,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002536

ang taas nung bayad ng taripa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002537

sa karneng baboy.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002538

Kasi talagang,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002539

last year,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002540

pinupukpuk namin talaga yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002541

usapin ng

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002542

agri-smuggling.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002543

So yun,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002544

as you say,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002545

natakot gumawa ng kalukuhan,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002546

nagbayad,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002547

nire-report ngayon yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002548

yung tamang buis,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002549

yung tamang,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002550

yung tamang volume

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002551

at nagbabayad ng tamang buis.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002552

I think,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002553

parang five-fold increase

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002554

sa collections ng taripa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002555

sa karneng imported

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002556

dahil nga dun sa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002557

takot na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002558

baka makumpis ka

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002559

dahil hindi nagbabayad

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002560

ng tamang buis.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002561

Yes?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002562

Yes, sir?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002563

I would like to

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002564

jump in and add

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002565

doon po kay Mr. Chair,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002566

kay Secretary Bidang sinabi.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002567

In fact,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002568

ang Philip Morris po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002569

we're very thankful

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002570

na Tumas,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002571

natin po yung

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002572

yung kanilang sales

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002573

after po natin

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002574

yung mga huli.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002575

And I have instruction

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002576

po doon sa nahuli

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002577

dito sa field.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002578

We are not filing cases

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002579

doon po sa nahuli

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002580

na driver at pahinante.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002581

We are filing a case po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002582

doon po sa operator

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002583

nung port na

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002584

pinagdaanan po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002585

a private port.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002586

So,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002587

on the process po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002588

yung pagpapile niyan.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002589

Yung may-ari

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002590

nung port?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002591

Yung may-ari po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002592

nung port mismo,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002593

yung buong

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002594

nasa GIS po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002595

ng SEC,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002596

I have instruction

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002597

to file cases

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002598

against them

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002599

dahil

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002600

possibly naman po

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002601

dumating doon

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002602

yung goods

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002603

ng walang kamalayan

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002604

po saan nila.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002605

Sige,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002606

we will follow,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002607

we will monitor.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-002608

Yes po.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002609

Director.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-002610

Go ahead, sir.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002611

Okay,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002612

tungkol din nyo.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002613

Mabuti na rin

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002614

pinasok yung smuggling

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002615

ng sigaret.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002616

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002617

director,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002618

kasi ano yan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002619

it's a very big industry

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002620

yung manufacturing

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002621

and sale of

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002622

fake cigarette

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002623

and yung smuggling.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002624

No?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002625

Alam kong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002626

nagbibigay pa

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002627

ng protection money

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002628

parang 5 million

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002629

a month,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002630

no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002631

Sa ibang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002632

a month.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002633

Ang binibigay,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002634

ibig sabihin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002635

malaking negosyo.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002636

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002637

malaking bagay na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002638

masabat

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002639

para nang sa ganun

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002640

pumasok sa gobyerno

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002641

maging legal na,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002642

no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002643

Anyway,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002644

just to continue,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002645

si Ekbida,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002646

sige,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002647

nagsabi rin si

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002648

Senator,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002649

former

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002650

President Dito Soto

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002651

that he

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002652

would

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002653

support

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002654

increase in the budget

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002655

of the

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002656

confidential funds

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002657

to improve

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002658

the investigation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002659

of cases

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002660

of NBI

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002661

and DOJ,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002662

no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002663

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002664

siguro,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002665

si Ekbida,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002666

siguro,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002667

what we have to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002668

look for funding

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002669

is anti-cybercrime

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002670

confidential fund

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002671

also,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002672

considering that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002673

a lot of cases

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002674

now,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002675

cybercrime,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002676

cyberfraud,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002677

cyberlibel,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002678

very prevalent

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002679

now.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002680

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002681

475,000

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002682

as pointed out

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002683

by

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002684

Senator Lacson,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002685

saan tayo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002686

abutin ito,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002687

no?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002688

Sige po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002689

A discussion

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002690

of that 475,000.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002691

Kasi po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002692

yung mandate po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002693

ng Office of the Cybercrime

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002694

with the DOJ

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002695

has already

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002696

also scaled down

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002697

with the creation

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002698

of the CICC

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002699

and also

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002700

the ICT.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002701

That's why

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002702

we don't want to ask

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002703

what we

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002704

don't need.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002705

Kaya lang yun lang po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002706

Kasi limited na rin po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002707

yung operations

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002708

ng aming

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002709

Office of the Cybercrime.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002710

Ah, so CICC na.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002711

Ang malaki na po ngayon

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002712

is yung sa law enforcement

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002713

which is the NBI's

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002714

more on TWGs,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002715

more on other aspects po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002716

Which,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002717

I think

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002718

the DOJ will always

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002719

be consistent.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002720

Pag hindi po namin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002721

kailangan ng

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002722

confidential fund,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002723

we will not ask for it.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002724

Kung ano lang po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002725

yung kailangan.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002726

Because we also would like

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002727

to subscribe

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002728

in the regular

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002729

procurement process,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002730

in the regular

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002731

liquidation of funds.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002732

We owe it to the public,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002733

Your Honors.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002734

And also,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002735

I'd like to thank you,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002736

no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002737

Yung aside from

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002738

Senator Pangilinan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002739

who's of course

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002740

definitely talagang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002741

advocacy

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002742

sa agriculture.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002743

Maraming salamat

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002744

na DOJ

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002745

is now taking a lead role

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002746

in the anti-agricultural

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002747

smuggling,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002748

economic sabotage efforts.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002749

Malaking bagay.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002750

I just want to

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002751

air my frustration

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002752

because I think

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002753

with this law

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002754

was pasyo una,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002755

yung anti-agricultural

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002756

smuggling.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002757

I was the principal

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002758

author in 2016.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002759

Hanggang na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002760

amen po yan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002761

wala hong nahuli

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002762

ang BOC noon.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002763

That time.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002764

Parang walang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002765

big fish.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002766

Yun yung frustration

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002767

namin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002768

Kahit minsan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002769

walang nahuling

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002770

smuggler,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002771

10 million lang

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002772

ang threshold.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002773

So now,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002774

yung mga nabanggit nyo po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002775

na medyo marami

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002776

na hong makakasuhan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002777

that will definitely

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002778

help

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002779

increase the income

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002780

to,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002781

of course,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002782

sa ating pong

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002783

BOC

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002784

and other agencies.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002785

And more than

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002786

importantly,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002787

it will

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002788

protect our farmers.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002789

Kasi pagpapasok po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002790

ang smuggled,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002791

na mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002792

na mga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002793

agriculture products,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002794

it deprives

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002795

our local farmers

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002796

of income.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002797

Kaya nga,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002798

pinasanataan

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002799

ng agriculture

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002800

smuggling law.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002801

And eventually,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002802

nag-evolve naman sila.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002803

No?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002804

Naging left and right

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002805

naman ng issuance

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002806

ng

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002807

import permit.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002808

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002809

nag-evolve.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002810

Kaya nga,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002811

anti-agriculture

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002812

economic sabotage na.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002813

So, sana sa cartel,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002814

profiteering,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002815

and hoarding.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002816

Alam ko,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002817

BOC,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002818

ano yan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002819

dapat.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002820

But,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002821

I think,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002822

yung anti-agriculture,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002823

or economic sabotage

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002824

council,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002825

can help a lot.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002826

Ano yan?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002827

Masyadong,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002828

that's very close

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002829

to the heart of our

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002830

chairman,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002831

Central Pangilinan,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002832

sa agriculture.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002833

And also to me,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002834

kasi ako po

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002835

ang nag-author

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002836

ng dalawang batas na to,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002837

even the amendment.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002838

I would like it

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002839

to be

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002840

effective,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002841

kasi sayang naman

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002842

na pinapasa natin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002843

Tapos,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002844

wala rin mang nauhuli.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002845

Diba?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002846

So,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002847

that's a good development.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002848

Thank you,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002849

Secretary Vida,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002850

for mentioning that

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002851

the DOJ is very much

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002852

active,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002853

now,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002854

sa anti-agriculture

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002855

economic sabotage council.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002856

With your permission,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002857

may I ask

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002858

PG Dong

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002859

to give the

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002860

para on

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002861

so that it's on the record

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002862

on this

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002863

agricultural

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002864

economic sabotage law,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002865

the performance

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002866

we have done so far.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002867

Yes,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-002868

PG Fadullon.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002869

With the permission

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002870

of the Secretary,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002871

Mr. Chairman,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002872

Honorable Senators,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002873

with the advent

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002874

of RA 12022,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002875

this resulted

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002876

to

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002877

a total

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002878

of about

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002879

58 cases,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002880

complaints filed

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002881

with us.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002882

There have already

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002883

been indictments.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002884

There have been

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002885

10 indictments

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002886

and this values

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002887

to something like

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002888

529 million

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002889

640,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002890

ah,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002891

529 million

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002892

641 thousand

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002893

506 point 80.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002894

Total value

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002895

of the goods

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002896

ceased.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002897

Most of these,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002898

Mr. Chairman,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002899

are cigarettes,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002900

no?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002901

You need to make products.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002902

And,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002903

there were

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002904

the other cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002905

that were referred to us

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002906

which were returned

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002907

to the LEAS

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002908

or the enforcement groups

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002909

for the building up

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002910

of cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002911

for the

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002912

for securing

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002913

the necessary evidence

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002914

for the prosecution

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002915

and investigation.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002916

The total value

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002917

of the goods

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002918

ceased

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002919

amounts to

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002920

something like

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002921

2,339,714

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002922

and 148 pesos.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002923

Sa ngayon,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002924

po,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002925

most of these cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002926

are being done

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002927

by the department

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002928

with the help of

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002929

the Philippine National Police,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002930

the National Bureau of Investigation

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002931

and the DOF.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002932

Ang isang bagay lang po

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002933

sana namin

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002934

na gustong ipaalam

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002935

is that

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002936

since the implementation

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002937

at nagsisimula po tayo

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002938

magkaroon ng maraming kaso

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002939

na banggit po

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002940

ni Director Matibag kanina

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002941

na karamihan po rito

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002942

ay tobacco products.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002943

Bakit po ganon?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002944

Yan po yung

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002945

pinaka-prolific

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002946

sa lahat po

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002947

ng lugar

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002948

na puntahan natin

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002949

dito sa

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002950

Pilipinas.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002951

In fact,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002952

again,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002953

it was mentioned

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002954

that

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002955

private entities

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002956

like Philip Morris

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002957

have engaged us

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002958

to help

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002959

and assist

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002960

in

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002961

capacitating

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002962

our prosecutors,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002963

our law enforcement

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002964

all over the country

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002965

just so that

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002966

the cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002967

will not be centralized

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002968

sa main office po.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002969

At kung halimbawang

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002970

meron pong mga huli

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002971

sa probinsya

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002972

o sa iba-ibang

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002973

regions,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002974

ang coordination

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002975

at ang case build-up

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002976

ay pwede na

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002977

pong gawin

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002978

doon sa regions.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002979

Ang prosecution po

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002980

dito po sa Manila

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002981

because all of these cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002982

are being filed

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002983

and prosecuted

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002984

before the Court of Tax Appeals.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002985

So,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002986

with the help

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002987

of kind-hearted

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002988

benefactors,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002989

we're able to do this.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002990

The sad part,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002991

Mr. Chair,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002992

is that

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002993

the budget

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002994

for the

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002995

implementation

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002996

itong batas

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002997

ay hindi pa ho

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002998

nabababa.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-002999

And,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003000

I think this is also

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003001

this also has

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003002

repercussions.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003003

Over the year,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003004

we have discovered

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003005

The Council, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003006

The Council?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003007

Yes, po.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003008

Wala pa po lumababa.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003009

And,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003010

this has resulted in

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003011

this has an impact

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003012

also in the implementation.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003013

Bakit po namin

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003014

sinasabi yun?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003015

Dahil sa

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003016

meron po tayong

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003017

nadidiskubre

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003018

na

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003019

in the process

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003020

of the seizures,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003021

nawawala po yung

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003022

cigarettes,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003023

nawawala po yung

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003024

sigarilyo,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003025

nawawa,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003026

nababawasan po yung

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003027

mga produkto

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003028

na nasisis.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003029

At,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003030

ang worst,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003031

may mga tao po tayo

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003032

who are part of

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003033

the enforcement group

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003034

who become

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003035

prey to this

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003036

para nabibiktima rin sila.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003037

At, sila po,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003038

pati po sila,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003039

hindi na lang

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003040

sigarilyo nawawala,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003041

pati na rin po yung

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003042

mga humuhuli.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003043

They disappear.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003044

Pinag-aawayan pa nga

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003045

TG Pajolion,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003046

ng HPG

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003047

at BOC yan.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003048

Di ba,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003049

fake cigarette

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003050

pinag-aawayan nila?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003051

Opo, opo.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003052

Totoo po yan.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003053

Sige po.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003054

So, there are instances

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003055

that we feel

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003056

the reason for this

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003057

is because it's a very

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003058

lucrative industry.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003059

It's very,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003060

very tempting

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003061

when you have

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003062

seizures na

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003063

ang value is

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003064

hundreds of millions,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003065

sometimes billions.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003066

When law enforcement,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003067

and we understand

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003068

completely the predicament

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003069

of the enforcement group,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003070

like the NBI

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003071

and the PNP,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003072

it will be very difficult

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003073

for them to enforce

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003074

the law

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003075

and to do operations

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003076

if they are not provided

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003077

the necessary resources.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003078

Ang nangyayari po,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003079

since the implementation

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003080

of the law,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003081

nagkakanya-kanya ho eh.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003082

We do coordinate

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003083

with each other,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003084

but in the process

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003085

of implementation,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003086

the added responsibility

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003087

being given

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003088

to our enforcement group,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003089

they will have to shell out

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003090

the resources needed

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003091

for the operations.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003092

And I think

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003093

if the budget

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003094

is somehow released

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003095

at an earlier time,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003096

it would minimize

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003097

the temptation

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003098

that some of our

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003099

members of the

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003100

mga scala,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003101

na kung tawagin natin,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003102

that they will be involved

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003103

in

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003104

...

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003105

You know, pag tatago, pagbabawas, pagbibenta, recycle, or totally, they will just disappear.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003106

So, yun lang po, gusto namin ipaalam, as far as the agricultural economic sabotage,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003107

we are working together with our enforcement agencies.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003108

We have a lot of seizures, and we are not focusing only on cigarettes.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003109

The only reason why cigarettes or tobacco is being highlighted now is because ito po yung pinakamadali na makita at nagsisirculate sa bansa.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003110

But we do operate also on other agricultural products.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003111

That will be all, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003112

Thank you.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003113

Yes, before I wrap up for second round of Senator Lacson, siguro just, ano ko lang, dagdag ko lang kayo sa NBI,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003114

yung what from information we received, itong fake cigarettes, grabe pala.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003115

Chairman, ang grabe ang dinsa, lucrative business, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003116

Very lucrative.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003117

Siguro, noong napatay yung MITN, dumami naman yung illegal, kasi yung cheap cigarette na wala.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003118

Pero siguro, Director Batibag, yung ano lang may information, itong gumagawa ng fake cigarettes are mobile, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003119

Pag umiinit na yung lugar, lilipat, kaya ang hirap daw hanapin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003120

Pero siguro, ano yan, more confidential funds, mahahanap nyo ba yun kahit mobile sila?

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003121

Well, sabi naman po, in relation to,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003122

whatever that will be given to us, we will continue to do our mandate, ano po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003123

Nakita po namin yung problema, tama po si PG Padulyon, ano po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003124

Yung cigarettes kasi, dahil sa mataas yung buhis, tapos ibibenta nila ng mas mura, talagang mas malaki yung return sa kanila.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003125

Pero, we'll continue doing our mandate, smuggled, pati po yung locally manufactured, meron na po rin yan eh.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003126

But yung mga raw materials yan, saka yung equipment,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003127

na ginagamit niyan, galing pa rin po sa ibang bansayan.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003128

So, we continue to monitor it, we are relying on our human intel,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003129

and since CICC was mentioned kanina po ni Secretary Vida, tumutulong po sa amin ng CICC.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003130

We have a good coordination with CICC.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003131

They have the tools, the equipment, they don't have the law enforcement mandate,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003132

so nag-uusap naman po kami, even po doon sa ibang kaso.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003133

At with the permission of Secretary Vida,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003134

tingin ko na rin po, on Monday, September 28,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003135

ang DOJ po, ang Bureau of Customs, at ang NBI,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003136

we will sign a tripartite agreement,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003137

particularly addressing the smuggling po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003138

Not only agricultural products, but not only cigarettes,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003139

but lahat po ng mga...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003140

Ba't hindi kasama ang DA?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003141

Secretary Vida, isa ba?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003142

Ito po muna yung...

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003143

This is more for the case build-up.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003144

Kasi ang nakita po namin ngayon,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003145

pag may umakyat po sa akin for pet rev or ano,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003146

dismissed, dismissed.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003147

Kasi ang isa pong nalulungkot ako,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003148

dahil wala raw bill of lading,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003149

nadi-dismissed.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003150

Sabi ko, napakasimple, mga simpleng requirements,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003151

hindi masubmit ng ating mga kapatid mula sa Bureau.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003152

Is Attorney Ong here?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003153

No.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003154

Ah, Robert?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003155

Yes.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003156

Yeah?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-003157

No, Mr. Chair, he's not around.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003158

Wala?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003159

Oh, yeah.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003160

He confirms that.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003161

Yes.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003162

Kaya nga po ang amin po ngayong, ano, is to direct the BOC,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003163

its officials, its enforcers,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003164

really to man up and to basically to do the work,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003165

na yung case build-up po, kumplitohin.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003166

Hindi po namin ma-prosecute eh.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003167

Nahuli na, nasis na yung produkto,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003168

tapos sa dulo, dismiss lang yung kaso.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003169

In fact, sabi ni Attorney Ong,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003170

in our hearings against the agriculture smuggling,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003171

of the 90,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003172

sorry,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003173

of the 100 plus cases that were forwarded by the DOJ

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003174

of apprehensions of agriculture products and smuggling products,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003175

90 were dismissed.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003176

Yes.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003177

90 cases.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003178

And the reason was that the BOC did not provide

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003179

did not provide

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003180

true copies, di ba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003181

Yes.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003182

Yes, we confirmed that.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003183

Hindi.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003184

90% of the cases, walang certified true copy.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003185

So, and then I told that to Attorney Ong.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003186

I said,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003187

pwede ba kayo mag-usap ng DOJ at ng BOC?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003188

Eh, kayo yung nagpa-prosecute.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003189

Tapos yung dokumentong galing sa...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003190

Simple-simple lang.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003191

Another thing, Sekretary,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003192

pag-aralan ninyo ng husto,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003193

nire-report sa media,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003194

kumpiskado, 9 million.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003195

Worth of agri-products,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003196

kumpiskado, 6 million.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003197

Sabi ko, ang convenient naman,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003198

puro below 10 million.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003199

Yeah.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003200

Wala, puro available.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003201

Di ba? Parang, ano to?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003202

Di ba? So, yun din,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003203

ang kinangan yung pag-aralan, di ba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003204

Nakakaroon ng dagdag-bawas doon sa halaga.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003205

Go ahead, sir. Go ahead.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003206

Well, well, well.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003207

Binansiyon nyo lang po ay caught my attention

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003208

because when I arrived po sa NBI,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003209

yung huli namin, more than 10 million lahat eh.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003210

We have onion, 37 million.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003211

So, yung manok po yata, 12 billion ngayon.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003212

Yun ang una ko tinitingnan eh.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003213

Pag nababasa ko sa dyaryo, magkano ito?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003214

Dahil kung mas mababa sa 10 million ito,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003215

drawing lang ito.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003216

Ah, yan po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003217

Di ba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003218

Pero meron pa nangyayari,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003219

nai-report ng 10 million,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003220

abab, pero pagdating doon sa kasuhan,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003221

ano, pumayat na.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003222

Kumaga, lumiit na na.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003223

Bumaba.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003224

Sen, if I may interject something.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003225

Yes, but, yeah.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003226

Very quickly lang because Senator Lacson has a second hand.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003227

Quickly lang po on this matter.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003228

We already initiated something.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003229

Other than that tripartite agreement,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003230

pag nagdi-dismiss po ako ngayon,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003231

petitions for review and PI,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003232

we also mandate,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003233

we give it back to the BOC or even the BIR

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003234

to resubmit subject to the rules of prescription.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003235

To submit within a certain period of time,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003236

to resubmit the documents

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003237

and to pursue the filing of cases

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003238

against the possible,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003239

the individuals who would be responsible.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003240

And may engagement na rin po ako doon

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003241

kay Ombudsman.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003242

Sabi niya,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003243

pag hindi nila kinumply,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003244

dereliction of duty.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003245

So, yun po ang push namin ngayon.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003246

So, meron na po kaming timelines

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003247

na binigay doon sa mga officials.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003248

Identified naman po kasi

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003249

kung sino yung mga officials na nag-file.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003250

What's frustrating po is

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003251

as simple as a document,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003252

as a bill of lading,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003253

as simple document,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003254

as certified through copy,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003255

will cause the dismissal of the case.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003256

Forgive me, Secretary Vida,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003257

Director Matiba,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003258

I'm challenging you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003259

These people are untouchable

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003260

up to this point.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003261

We're talking of billions of pesos worth

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003262

of smuggled goods being brought into our country

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003263

whose quality is questionable,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003264

whose safety standards are

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003265

obviously unclear.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003266

These are untouchable people.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003267

Prove to us,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003268

show us that they are not untouchable.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003269

Pakita nyo sa amin.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003270

Na itong mga bilyonaryong

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003271

nagsasmuggle ng bilyong-bilyong halaga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003272

ng produktong agrikultura,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003273

kay baboy yan,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003274

kay gulay yan,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003275

manok.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003276

Patunayan nyo sa amin.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003277

Pakitanggilas po kayo

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003278

na hindi sila untouchable.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003279

Patunayan natin.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003280

And I'm more than willing to

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003281

support your budget

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003282

as long as the bottom line is

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003283

itong mga untouchable na mga smuggler

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003284

tapos na dapat

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003285

ang mga araw nila.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003286

Kawawa ang ating mga magsasaka,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003287

kawawa ang ating mga mangingisda,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003288

kawawa ang ating consumers

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003289

na lahat

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003290

ay

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003291

nagdadaing dahil

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003292

hindi na natin ma-afford

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003293

yung murang pagkain,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003294

dahil hindi na makatanim

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003295

ng maayos ang ating mga magsasakat

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003296

at mangingisda,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003297

dahil itong mga smuggled na mga produkto,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003298

kapapasok sa atin,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003299

nilalason tayo.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003300

Winawasak ang ating food security.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003301

Pasensya na dahil

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003302

we cannot do this.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003303

The Senate alone cannot do this.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003304

We need your help

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003305

and we need

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003306

pakita naman natin na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003307

itong mga untouchable

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003308

ay hindi totoo,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003309

bilang na mga araw nila.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003310

If I may respond,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003311

Yes, please.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003312

The Department of Health,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003313

the Department of Justice

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003314

under my leadership

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003315

with all the 10 agencies

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003316

is the primary law agency

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003317

of the country.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003318

Isa lang kung pinangawakan natin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003319

rule of law.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003320

No one should be above the law

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003321

and we only prosecute

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003322

those who need to be prosecuted

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003323

and we will

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003324

not prosecute those.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003325

Batas lang po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003326

And we've been doing this,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003327

sabi ng ibang komentator,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003328

may chilling effect daw.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003329

But I beg to disagree.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003330

It's not about chilling effect.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003331

Ito na ho talaga yung advent

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003332

ng rule of law sa Pilipinas.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003333

Ito na po talaga

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003334

ang dapat na norm

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003335

kasi we owe it to the public,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003336

we owe it to the Filipinos,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003337

we owe it to the next generations,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003338

Your Honor.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003339

And the Department of Justice

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003340

will be with you,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003341

with the Senate,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003342

in this.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003343

Sana ito na po yung norm.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003344

Ito na po talaga.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003345

Walang, walang yung,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003346

hindi titingnan yung pangalan,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003347

hindi titingnan yung malaki,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003348

maliit.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003349

Sundin lang natin yung batas.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003350

At yung po ang aming direksyon,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003351

mahal na,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003352

Senator.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003353

Maraming salamat.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003354

And just,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003355

very quickly,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003356

you have my commitment.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003357

If we have to meet every day,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003358

hanggang itong mga untouchable na ito,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003359

ay,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003360

ay,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003361

masampola na.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003362

You know,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003363

when we were,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003364

and this is my last point,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003365

when we went after them,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003366

hammer and tongs,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003367

in 2014,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003368

2015,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003369

and we filed cases against them,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003370

we suspended their licenses,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003371

because we had the power to,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003372

we had monopoly,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003373

ang ano eh,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003374

in terms of importation,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003375

ang NFA noon.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003376

We brought down

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003377

rice inflation

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003378

to 0.8%

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003379

from 15%

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003380

in one year.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003381

In one year.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003382

Because we managed

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003383

the rice supply.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003384

Itong mga kartel na ito,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003385

ginagamit nila,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003386

and this is,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003387

sabi,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003388

this is a cartel,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003389

are not private sector,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003390

kasamkot din dyan,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003391

ang ilang mga,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003392

kasabot din dyan,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003393

ang ilang mga gobyerno,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003394

nasa gobyerno.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003395

Diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003396

Nung na-control yung supply ng bigas,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003397

bumaba ang preso ng bigas,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003398

pag bumaba ang preso ng bigas,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003399

bababa ang preso ng iba pang mga produkto,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003400

inflation will be managed.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003401

It will be,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003402

it,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003403

rice inflation,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003404

whether going up or down,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003405

will bring down nationwide inflation.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003406

So we're actually talking of

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003407

hunger of our people

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003408

by enforcing the law.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003409

Poverty

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003410

will continue to haunt us

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003411

if we don't address

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003412

the rule of law in our country.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003413

So I hope,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003414

I pray,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003415

na bago magtapos ang taon,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003416

or maybe in the next six months,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003417

makikita na natin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003418

yung mga untouchable ay

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003419

nagbe-behave na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003420

at yung iba ay nakakulong na.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003421

Salamat,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003422

Secretary Vida,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003423

you have my support.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003424

Wala na,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003425

wala na akong tanong.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003426

Go ahead.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003427

Sige.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003428

Senator Ping,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003429

go ahead.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003430

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003431

Segway lang muna tayo

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003432

para pambawas ng passion

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003433

saka tension.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003434

Balikan ko lang yung topic kanina

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003435

sa express lane.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003436

Bit of information.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003437

Under Special Provision No. 1

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003438

of the BI budget

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003439

sa 2026 gaya ito.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003440

Yung express lane,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003441

64%

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003442

ng collection ninyo

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003443

goes to overtime.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003444

Di ba?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003445

25% goes to contractual.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003446

And 11%,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003447

yun ang naririmit sa

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003448

Bureau of Treasury.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003449

My question is,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003450

let's,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003451

lahat ba niririmit nyo muna

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003452

or

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003453

binibigay nyo muna sa

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003454

specific purposes,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003455

then you'll remit?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003456

Because in 2026,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003457

your actual receipts,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003458

ano, 2025 ito,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003459

as of December 31,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003460

actual receipts is

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003461

2,027,699,000.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003462

Ang actual expenditures,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003463

ito yung 92.6%.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003464

Now,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003465

meron kayong cash balance,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003466

na 346,400.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003467

Ito yung for remittance

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003468

to the Bureau of Treasury.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003469

I go back to my previous question.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003470

Lahat ba muna niririmit nyo?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003471

Tapos saka

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003472

ibinabalik sa inyo?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003473

Or it's the other way around?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003474

I may confer with my colleague,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003475

the head of our finance division.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003483

Your Honor,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003484

after makakakolekta mo namin

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003485

yung 100%,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003486

kukunin po namin 64%,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003487

then the 25%,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003488

then directly po yung 11%

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003489

to the National Treasury,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003490

Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003491

Thank you for that.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003492

Now,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003493

another topic,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003494

last na ito,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003495

from this representation,

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003496

I just wanna pick the brain

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003497

of the secretary

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003498

of the DOJ

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003499

and the others

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003500

na naandito.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003501

Yung proposal ni

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003502

Secretary Jonvic

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003503

Remulla, na ilipat

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003504

yung BJMP sa

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003505

Bucor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003506

This may not need

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003507

legislation kasi under

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003508

the administrative code, pwede naman talaga

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003509

yung presidente mag-reorganize, diba?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003510

So, anong take nyo rito?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003511

Our take is having

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003512

a unified correctional

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003513

and penology system is

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003514

ideal for the country.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003515

That's one take po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003516

Next is, everything

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003517

should be just operational and

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003518

transition. So, we

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003519

share po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003520

that

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003521

direction.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003522

We will

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003523

be more than willing to

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003524

do that.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003525

And hopefully, we have that unified correctional and penology system.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003526

General Greg, kaya mo i-absorb?

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003527

Mr. Chairman, Your Honor, I think the best way first to do is one step at a time.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003528

Detach BJMP from the ILG and make BJMP as a bureau.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003529

Initially as a bureau, and then when the time comes that really we can merge these two.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003530

BJMP is effectively a bureau under the DILG, just like the PNP and the BFP, di ba?

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003531

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003532

So, ano, separate bureau?

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003533

Initially po, para because we have internal problems in Bucor, I want to solve them maybe before 2028.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003534

And also BJMP.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003535

Can have a sunset review by our good secretary to really how to merge this.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003536

Because in other countries, it's a unified penology and correctional system.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003537

And they call it the Bureau of Correctional Services.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-003538

So, in the future, it will be merged.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003539

Senator, if I may, the first step would be transferring the BJMP.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003540

From the DILG to the DOJ.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003541

Then that will pave the way for that.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003542

Especially with the residual powers of the President.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003543

I think legally, no need for a new law for that.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003544

Senator Ping and Secretary Vida.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003545

An executive order will do.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003546

Under the administrative code.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003547

Actually, we did that under President Aquino's time.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003548

We took away the NFA.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003549

The NIA.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003550

The Pesticide and Fertilizer Authority.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003551

And the Philippine Coconut Authority.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003552

We took it all away from the Department of Agriculture.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003553

And put it under the office of the President.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003554

By way of executive order.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003555

So, an executive order can now transfer the BJMP from the DILG.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003556

Unless there is a law.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003557

But I don't think so.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003558

The law is.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003559

The administrative code.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003560

Correct?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003561

If Yusek Marco is more knowledgeable on the current status now.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003562

There are already ongoing discussions on this, Your Honors.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003563

Isa nang tanong ko.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003564

Anong status doon sa recommendation?

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003565

With the permission of the Secretary.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003566

Is the President positive on this?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003567

Thank you.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003568

With the permission of the Secretary.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003569

Good morning, Your Honors.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003570

At first, we were looking at two ways to do it.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003571

First one would be through legislation.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003572

But during the study, we figured out that this was done before through an executive order.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003573

The only law that could probably be maybe a problem for this would be the local government code.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003574

Because the provincial jails, according to the local government code, belongs to the provincial.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003575

That's the only problem, Your Honors.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003576

Yeah.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003577

Binigyan ng staff ko, no?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003578

Also under the Government Optimization Act.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003579

No?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003580

Pwede rin mag-reorganize yung Pangulo.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003581

So maraming available na pieces of legislation.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003582

No longer legislation, but batas.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003583

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003584

So maybe you can work around itong dinidiscuss natin.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003585

Yes, Your Honor.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003586

The present status right now is we have already formed a technical working group with the DILG, with the BJMP.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003587

And by the end of this month, we should be done with the draft EO already.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003588

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003589

What is the exact provision in the local government code?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003590

Would you have it?

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003591

I'll look it up.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003592

As you, before, we can proceed with the other items, but later on, we'll go back to you.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-003593

Thank you, Your Honors.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003594

Wala na akong.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003595

Alas dosi na, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003596

Pauwi na natin sila.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003597

Meron lang akong ilang katanungan.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003598

For the record lang, Senator Ping, we were able to collate.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003599

The department was able to remit to the Bureau of Treasury 18,715,924,000.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003600

But what was released under...

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003601

Their special account to the DOJ family is the total only of P262,778,000.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003602

That's based on that.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003603

We'll take note of that, Secretary Vida.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003604

Ano lang na remit out of 18?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003605

Maliit.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-003606

Yes, sir.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003607

Sir, pahabol ko lang po. Pasensya na po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003608

Go ahead, Director.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003609

Meron po rin kaming request saan ng restatement doon sa proposal namin.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003610

This will help yung aming mga...

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003611

mga agents po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003612

I'm requesting for a budget for the increase of their hazard pay.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003613

Ngayon po kasi they're just getting P4,000 a month na hazard pay

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003614

which is no longer at par with other law enforcement group.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003615

Baka po pwedeng gawin P15,000.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003616

This will increase po about P97 million a year po na madagdag.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003617

Which will boost the morale of our law enforcement po,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003618

ng mga agents po natin.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003619

Salamat po.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003620

Wala sa NBI modernization law yan?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003621

Tinatanong na, Senator Ping.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003622

Actually, nakalagay po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003623

Nakalagay po na wala pong nakalagay na provisions na gano'n.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003624

Pero we are actually requesting for that para lang po sana yung ikot po ng tao.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003625

We only have about 370 agents po sa buong Pilipinas po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003626

Ganun lang po karami.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003627

Pero nagsulat na po kami sa DBM to increase the number of our agents.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003628

Kasi under the modernization,

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003629

ang minimum po na requirement na agents namin per region at per district.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003630

When you say district, yung province po, the 82 provinces.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003631

Now, 6 dapat per region at per district.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003632

Ganyan po, we only have 370 po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003633

Director Melvin, kindly check again.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003634

Kasi baka may naliligaw na provision para budget na lang yung problema.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003635

Baka mayroong provision doon na related na pwedeng lagyan ng budget.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003636

Pakireview na lang ulit yung NBI modernization.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003637

Kasi kapapasa lang yan.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003638

Baka naman mayroong naliligaw doon na nabanggit yung hazard.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003639

Sige po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003640

Nagsulat na lang po namin sa inyo po.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003641

Maraming salamat po.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003642

Address it to the chairman of the committee.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003643

Ito pala meron oh.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003644

There you go.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003645

Go ahead sir.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003646

Section 10.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003647

Benefits and privileges.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003648

Paragraph E.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003649

Hazard pay.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003650

Subject to pertinent laws and rules.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003651

Meaning, pag sinabing subject to pertinent laws, gaayon.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003652

Di ba?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003653

So hindi na kailangan ng legislation.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003654

It's already there.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003655

Yes sir.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003656

That's why we're requesting po for the...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003657

Kaya, mag-usap pala kayo ng chairman.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003658

Opo.

NBI Director Melvin Matibag

asr-003659

97 million po yung computation namin for everyone po.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003660

Please address it to the chairman of the committee just through me.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003661

Chairman through the vice chairman.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003662

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003663

Go ahead sir.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003664

Siguro, just a few more points sa Mr. Chair.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003665

Siguro, dahil ka-ask to us, Commissioner Joel.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003666

Viado sa BI.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003667

Okay.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003668

Yung pong...

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003669

e-gates and Border Management System.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003670

Kasi budget eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003671

Kaya I have to ask.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003672

As early as

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003673

2017, Bureau of Immigration has been receiving allocation for its Border Management Information System.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003674

From 2017 to 2026, the project has received a total allocation of almost 10 billion. For 2027,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003675

Allocation of BMIS is just 524 million.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003676

Pero through the years, malaki na rin ito.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003677

2024, 2.6 billion.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003678

2025, 3.8 billion.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003679

2026, 1.8 billion.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003680

Just like to ask, medyo malaki kasi ito.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003681

But what are the components so that everybody will understand of this project aside from the expansion of the e-gates in our international ports?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003682

Ano po ito?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003683

For convenience lang?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003684

Or does it include the software, lahat po ng information system?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003685

So probably can...

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003686

You can expound, Commissioner Joel.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003687

Yes.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003688

Thank you very much po, Senator Ejercito.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003689

With the permission of our Honorable Secretary.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003690

Ang components po ng e-gates project po namin, which aims to not only strengthen border control but also modernize the primary immigration processing,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003691

accelerate clearances, prevent fraud, and streamline the immigration processing through biometric verification.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003692

Ang components po niyan are the following.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003693

First, biometrics capture device in manned inspection counters.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003694

Ang description po nito, it is a self-contained device at manned counters, which will capture the traveler's biometric data, such as fingerprints and facial images, with seamless software integration for operation.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003695

Number two po, yung hardware po ng e-gates.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003696

Yan po yung nakikita po natin.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003697

These are automated self-service gates.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003698

These are the gates that allow eligible travelers to clear immigration without going through a manned counter.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003699

Ito pong e-gates, they read the traveler's passport, they capture live biometrics, they verify the person's identity against the passport, they check the regulatory records, and open the gates if all checks are passed.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003700

Kasama rin po dito ang automated biometric identification system, o yung tinatawag po nating ABIS.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003701

It's the central system that stores...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003702

It's the central system that stores and matches face and fingerprint data for real-time identity verification and fraud detection.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003703

Meron din pong e-gates monitoring station.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003704

Ito po ang workstations used by immigration officers to monitor the status and performance of all e-gates in real-time.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003705

The system shows whether each gate is operational, in use, or requires assistance, allowing officers to respond quickly to any issues.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003706

Andyan din po ang border control data.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003708

exchange platform, or BCDEP.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003709

The secure platform that enables safe, real-time data sharing among border control systems and agencies.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003710

Andyan din po ang administrative back-end system.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003711

The management system for monitoring usage, performance, and configuration of e-gates and related components.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003712

Meron din pong document verification software.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003713

It displays all verification results performed on the passport within the immigration...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003714

...officer's interface.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003715

Nakaka-indicate po siya ng any detected anomalies or inconsistencies.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003716

Meron din pong network requirements.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003717

Kailangan po kasi yung communications infrastructure maigi.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003718

Nandun po yung switchers, routers, cabling, tsaka yung Wi-Fi that can securely connect all e-gate components.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003719

Meron din pong server requirements na kailangan pong kasusan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003720

The servers host and run core e-gate systems to handle transactions reliably...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003721

...and support future growth.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003722

Bangsan po po ang system integration.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003723

It will connect all e-gates and biometric systems with the border control information system...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003724

...and other databases for real-time checks and smooth passenger flow.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003725

Meron din pong backup and disaster recovery.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003726

Yan po yung kung mag-down yung system, dapat po may backup.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003727

The data backups and redundant systems aim to protect information and restore operations quickly.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003728

After failures or disruptions.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003729

Meron din pong kailangan kasusan na support, maintenance, and warranty.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003730

For ongoing technical support, preventive maintenance, and repairs to keep all e-gates components running reliably.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003731

And last but not the least, anyan po yung training or structured training for the officers and staff...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003732

...on operating, monitoring, and maintaining the e-gates and associated systems.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003733

So we have to consider...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003734

...your honors, na hindi lang po yung hardware ang kailangan pong paglaanan ng budget.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003735

Andiyan po ang isang system na kailangan tumakbo not only in the airports in Metro Manila...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003736

...but interconnected with all the other airports in the whole Philippines.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003737

Yan po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003738

Chair Chairman, ang facial identification or facial recognition, yung requirement ninyo?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003739

Facial recognition, yung requirement.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003740

Recognition, mahal yan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003741

We have been working, your honor...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003742

...with the...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003743

...within the budget, kung ano po ang naibigay sa amin pong budget po ng ating pong kapulungan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003744

Yun po, we're working within that po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003745

So ang stages po niyan, ang first phase po, 1.9 billion, but we were able to lower that to 1.5 billion po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003746

And secondly po, Your Honor, yung phase 2 po ng proyekto namin is around [unclear].

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003747

1 billion 347 million 57 thousand.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003748

Hindi ko kasanayin na magbasa ng napakaraming...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003749

Lagi mo inisip yung milyon.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003750

Lagi, laging, laging, ano po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003751

And phase 3 po ng proyekto is for 2026, 536,072,000, your honors.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003752

Yan po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003753

Kasi basically, di ba, pagka facial identification, ang tanong lang, sino to?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003754

Pero pagka facial recognition, may matching.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003755

May matching pa ito, di ba?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003756

Yes, po, your honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003757

Kaya po, meron po kaming biometric capturing systems po na binili.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003758

Not only the hardware, but meron pong biometric capturing devices po na binili, your honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003759

Kasi yan po ang crucial.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003760

Meron pa nga pong instances, your honor, na meron pong airports na maaring hindi kailangan ng e-gates because of the passenger traffic,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003761

pero kailangan ng biometric identification system.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003762

Yan po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003763

Sa Southeast Asia, tayo na lang ba yung walang facial recognition?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003764

Hindi ko po masabi sa buong Southeast Asia, your honor, but I've been to different airports all over Southeast Asia and Asia.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003765

Nakita ko na po yan sa, of course, Singapore, ang Indonesia, sa Bali, ang dami po nilang mga e-gates, ang Japan, of course, and Korea.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003766

Yan po. Marami po talagang mga bansa, your honors, na gumagamit.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003767

Kindly walk us through, no? Pagka meron na tayong facial recognition technology.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003768

Yes, your honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003769

Anong...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003770

Anong mako-cover nito?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003771

Pagdating ng pasahero, wala na tayo yung mga boots.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003772

Yes, your honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003773

Yes, your honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003774

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003775

Hanggang Pochina.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003776

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003777

That is the ultimate objective, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003778

Gaya po ng sa ibang bansa, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003779

Nadadaan na lang po kayo sa Amerika po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003780

Ganun.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003781

Pagdaan, nakaka-capture na po lahat.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003782

Lahat captured na.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003783

So, you don't need to queue.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003784

Di ba?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003785

Hindi ka na magka-queue.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003786

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003787

Ganun po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003788

Because to which is own, you just go through.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003789

Yes po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003790

Ang maganda po kasi sa ganitong approach, Your Honor,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003791

yung manual counters po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003792

kung hindi mababawasan, matatanggal totally.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003793

But we are adopting a step-ladder approach.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003794

Kasi po, we have to admit,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003795

kumbaga ho sa levels,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003796

kumbaga ho nandito pa ho tayo sa level 1.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003797

Hindi naman ho pwedeng agad-agad na sa level number 10 po tayo.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003798

So, we have to go through the different processes and phases.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003799

At ito po ang naisip namin na unang hakbang po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003800

patungo po doon sa ating adhikain,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003801

na lahat e dumaan doon sa tinatawag po nating artificial intelligence.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003802

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003803

Ito po ang...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003804

Wala nang human intervention.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003805

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003806

That would...

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003807

Ang problema nyo, saan nyo itatapon yung mga employees ninyo?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003808

Your Honor, we have to consider yun po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003809

na we are expecting passenger traffic to really increase exponentially.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003810

So, we still need the immigration personnel.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003811

We also need people to man the different e-gates

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003812

and the different systems.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003813

Ultimately po, maari pong ma-prevent siya from entering,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003814

but...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003815

The discretion of the immigration officers still remains.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003816

So, kailangan pa rin po namin.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003817

So, how much do we need for the first phase?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003818

1.3 billion.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003819

Na ibigay na po sa amin, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003820

Ah, nandiyan na.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003821

So, in the works na ito?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003822

Yes po, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003823

So, where are we now?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003824

Sa ano po?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003825

Sa phase 2 na po tayo, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003826

Nasa phase 2 na po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003827

Nasa NEP yan?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003828

Yes po, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003829

Sufficient or not enough?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003830

Yung nasa NEP?

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003831

Sapat na ba?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003832

Enough na po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003833

If I may, Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003834

Wala na po nga, pigi-usapang budget.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003835

Okay na po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003836

Your Honor.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003837

I-adapt na lang yung NEP, ano?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003838

Yes po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003839

I-adapt na lang yung NEP.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003840

Yes po.

Senator Panfilo Lacson

asr-003841

Okay na kayo?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003842

Apo.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003843

If I may give the specific phases po, kung nasa na po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003844

Ang status po ng phase 1,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003845

the procurement of the e-gates project has been completed

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003846

with a notice to proceed issued on 12 March 2026.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003847

to the winning joint venture and bidder.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003848

The project implementation will be undertaken

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003849

over a 9-month period from receipt of the NTP.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003850

So from March 12, may 9-month period po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003851

Ang phase 2 po, Your Honors.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003852

The technical specifications were submitted

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003853

to the Office of the Department of Justice,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003854

Chief Information Technology Officer,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003855

on September 8, 2026.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003856

And it was approved on the same day.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003857

Subsequently, the invitation to bid was posted

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003858

on September 19, 2026,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003859

with a pre-bid conference set for

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003860

September 30, 2026, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003861

Ang phase 3 po ng proyekto,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003862

a letter directive constituting the e-gates phase 3

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003863

project management team, or PMT,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003864

has been issued by the Office of the Commissioner

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003865

of the Bureau of Immigration,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003866

and the drafting of the technical specifications

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003867

will commence shortly thereafter, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003868

We have also done the required market scoping

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003869

as required by BI Memorandum No. 2025-132

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003870

in line with the new government's

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003871

Procurement Act.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003872

So dinaanam po namin yung pag-scope po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003873

sa merkado as a preliminary step

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003874

in strategic procurement planning, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003875

Just to continue, by the way,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003876

Mr. Chair, bago nat,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003877

si Yusek March pala.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003878

Batiin natin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003879

Congratulations sa bagong kasal.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003880

Anyway, commercial, huh?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003881

How are you related, Yusek Gutierrez?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003882

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003883

Ah, Yusek Gutierrez, you're the daughter

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003884

of former Secretary Gutierrez.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003885

Okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003886

We were together in the JBC.

DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez

asr-003887

Okay, sir.

DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez

asr-003888

And it's her birthday today.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003889

It's her birthday today.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003890

Please tell her happy birthday.

DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez

asr-003891

And I'm putting that also on record.

DOJ Undersecretary Garney M. Candelaria

asr-003892

Sir, if I may, on record, sir,

DOJ Undersecretary Garney M. Candelaria

asr-003893

Usec Margarita Llamanzares.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003894

Oh, yes, that's right.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003895

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003896

Yes, that's correct.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003897

Congratulations and best wishes.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003898

Yes, sir.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003899

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003900

So, ang component pa ito, kaya mahal,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003901

it's not just for convenience

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003902

na akala kasi natin.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003903

Parang yung laman lang ng passport,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003904

information, and to capture the database,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003905

yun lang.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003906

So, meron din itong component na matse-check

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003907

kung may derogatory records,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003908

kung merong international fugitive

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003909

or international, ano ba ito, criminal.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003910

Yes, po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003911

Kaya ba itong mahuli?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003912

So, magpupula ba yung e-gates

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003913

kung may problema?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003914

Sige, konti lang.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003915

Kaya po, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-003916

Pagsak na yung kulungan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003917

Pwede po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003918

Opo, naka-hook up rin po kami

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003919

sa sistema po ng Interpol.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003920

International Police po, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003921

So, how many e-gates have been installed

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003922

and how will be our operation already?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003923

Yes.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003924

I assume na yung major terminals natin,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003925

na iya 1, 2, 3,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003926

and then siguro sa Ibu and Dabao.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003927

Sige po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003928

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003929

Sa ano po, sa ating e-gates,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003930

meron pong donation which came from the private entity,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003931

NNIC.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003932

So, na iya 1 and 3 po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003933

ano po yan, 78, Your Honors.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003934

And then, eventually po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003935

sa donation,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003936

inilaan po namin yung budget po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003937

para doon sa originally T1 and T3

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003938

sa ibang airports po sa buong Pilipinas.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003939

Sa mga major airports.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003940

Even, basta international airports,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003941

lalagyan nyo.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003942

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003943

So, for the record,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003944

NNIC or the new na IA Infra Corporation

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003945

donated about

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003946

a few units for terminals 1 and 3

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003947

ang nabanggit nyo.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003948

Tama po, e-gates?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003949

That's correct, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003950

Already being used, no?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003951

Yes po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003952

Sa atin naman po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003953

nakadeploy po yan sa Cebu, Clark, Bohol, Dabao,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003954

47 e-gates po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003955

And ang nabanggit ko po kanina,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003956

yung biometric capturing devices,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003957

na importante po makuha po yung information

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003958

na kailangan po from the passenger,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003959

merong 57 po tayo na biometric capturing devices,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003960

Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003961

So, kung may whole departure order,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003962

for example,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003963

pupula ba yun?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003964

Pupula po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003965

Ah, hindi makakatuloy, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003966

Okay, sige, marami kasi may HDO ngayon, eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003967

So, just want to make sure na, hindi...

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003968

So, ano?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003969

Okay.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003970

Pupula.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003971

Kasi nakita ko doon, ano, Mr. Chair,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003972

nandaming e-gates green, eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003973

Ibig sabihin...

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003974

Tuloy lang po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003975

Go yun, tuloy-tuloy lang.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003976

So, pag pumula, may problema.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003977

Yes po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003978

Doon makakailanganin yung human intervention.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003979

Yes po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003980

Taba po kayo ito, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003981

So, hindi naman babawasan, no,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-003982

yung mga immigration officers natin?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003983

Hindi po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003984

As a matter of fact,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003985

ngayon po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003986

kulang pa nga po tayo, Your Honor, eh.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003987

But we make do with whatever is given to us.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003988

Initially, I've been reiterating po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003989

ang immigration officers po natin

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003990

sa buong Pilipinas,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003991

around 1,800, 1,900.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003992

Ngayon po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003993

ikukumpira po natin yan sa ibang bansa

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003994

na hindi naman po kasi laki

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003995

ng ating borders o teritoryo.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003996

Ang Japan, I think, has about 5,000, 6,000, 7,000.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003997

Ang Japan po yan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003998

Dati po, may nakausap po ko galing Singapore.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-003999

Nagtatakaw po siya, nung tinanong po niya,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004000

ilan ang immigration officers niyon?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004001

Sabi ko, less than 2,000 what?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004002

And considering na pagdating po sa land area,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004003

napakaliit po ng kanilang area,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004004

kukupira po sa atin.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004005

And we don't only have to contend with the land area,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004006

we have to contend with the coastal areas.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004007

Milyon-milyon po ng metro kwadrado ang ating economic zone,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004008

exclusive economic zone po natin.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004009

Ang coastal areas po natin,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004010

daan-libu po yan

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004011

ng

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004012

kilometro kwadrado.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004013

So, we have to contend with that.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004014

And I've been telling those who have been asking

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004015

ang kinalakihan po natin nun,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004016

7,100 islands ang Pilipinas.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004017

Ngayon po, 7,600 na.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004018

And divide that with the number of officers that we have,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004019

on the average, one officer has to take care of four islands.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004020

Meron ho mga instances kung naano eh,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004021

kala po namin nung una eh, parang, ano lang ho, hindi nangyayari.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004022

But I was able to talk to one officer in a single day.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004023

She went to four islands in one day just to check on the situation.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004024

Ganyan po ang ano.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004025

So, kailangan po natin na mas marami ring officers yan.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004026

Masama dun sa four islands ang island of Luzon.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004027

Okay, go ahead.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004028

Yung ano lang kasi, napansin ko lang when I visited na IA, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004029

Because I also defend the budget of the OTR.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004030

Nag-inspection kami dun recently.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004031

I'm happy na ang dami ng e-gates, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004032

Kaya nakita ko yung green eh tsaka red eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004033

Na mahirap yung lumalabas na red.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004034

So, anyway, ang meron lang common complaint is that,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004035

siguro just walk us through or kaya kung ano yung patakaran ngayon,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004036

pag foreigner, kailangan humarap sa immigration officer pa, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004037

Yung arrival.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004038

Yung arrival.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004039

Yung mga Pilipino, pwedeng mag-e-gates na.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004040

Your Honor, ano po?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004041

Meron pong faces, Your Honor, if I can give you the schedule.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004042

Tsaka yung ano lang siguro, just to complete, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004043

And before you mention.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004044

Yes, sir.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004045

Yung ang problema kasi, yung departure,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004046

pag Pilipino, kailangan baliktad.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004047

Ang foreigner, e-gates ang pwedeng gumamit.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004048

Pero ang Pilipino, kailangan dumaan sa immigration officer, baliktad, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004049

So, I understand because of the anti-yakat, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004050

Sa anti-trafficking.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004051

Pero can you, Commissioner Joel, can you explain ito pong rational?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004052

Bakit ganun?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004053

Pag parating, bakit na, anyway,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004054

Senator Tulfo also brought this up during the DFA budget hearing,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004055

na pag parating, ang Pilipino lang ang pwedeng gumamit na e-gates.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004056

Pag paalis naman, foreigner lang.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004057

So, can you elaborate?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004058

Yes.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004059

Meron po kaming nakaset po ng mga,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004060

naka-set po ng mga schedule pagdating po sa kung sino po ang pwedeng lumabas at maglabas-masok using the e-gates.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004061

Noong ano po, noong December 2025, noong una po nating nilaunch po itong proyekto na to,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004062

Filipinos po ang makakagamit upon arrival.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004063

Noong February 2026 po, mga OFWs po natin, mga kababayan po nating OFWs, ang pwede na pong makagamit sa departure.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004064

Pagdating naman po ng May 2026,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004065

yung mga temporary visitors eligible under the, or admitted under the, tinatawag po nating EO408,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004066

yung mga eligible countries with the 30-day visa-free arrangement,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004067

makakagamit na rin po sila sa departure.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004068

Pagdating naman po noong June 2026, ang foreign nationals under the Balikbayanan Program,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004069

makakagamit po sila sa departure.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004070

At yun pong non-first-time travelers.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004073

Kabila sa Pilipinos, departure din po noong June 2026.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004074

At yun pong mga registered po sa Commission on Filipinos Overseas.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004075

Sa first quarter of 2027, ang schedule po natin,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004076

upon arrival, ang other eligible foreign nationals can use the E-gates.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004077

Pagdating naman po ng second quarter ng 2027, other eligible foreign nationals can now use the departure gates.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004078

Yan po ang schedule, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004079

And tama po kayo pagdating po sa mga kababayan po natin na aalis,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004080

we have to comply with the departure formalities na tinatawag po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004081

as set under the Interagency Council Against Trafficking

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004082

of which the Bureau of Immigration is one of the members.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004083

We have to consider, Your Honors, that the Philippines is uniquely situated

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004084

in the sense that ang border control po natin does not only pertain to those arriving

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004085

but ang mga kababayan po natin ay piniprotektahan po natin

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004086

bago po sila umalis ng bansa just to ensure that they are safely,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004087

they safely not only arrive but they safely work in the countries

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004088

where they intend to be employed.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004089

Kaya po meron po mga proseso po kaming dinadaanan para humalaman

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004090

kung ano po ang potensyal ng kababayan po natin na matatraffic.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004091

Um, ano po eh, it's unfortunate na ang mga perpetrators po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004092

nakakaisip po ng ano, ng iba't ibang mga kumbaga gimmick po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004093

para ho makapagpalabas po ng mga tao papunta ibang bansa.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004094

Also, um, we received information, I think this was also asked sa house,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004095

to sa hearing, yung sa, you're in the prior,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004096

process of finalizing the proposed PPP project, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004097

Ito po yung Civil Aviation and Immigration Security Services or CAIS.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004098

This project has an estimated cost, project cost of 10.7 billion.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004099

So can you share with the committee the details of this CAIS project

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004100

and who is the proponent? Kung ano po yung purpose?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004101

And what will it do to help protect us?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004102

Ah, from, ah, lalo na sa international, ano to, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004103

Fugitives or anybody? So kung makakatulong ba ito sa ating pong crackdown on this?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004104

Sige, Commissioner Joel, please.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004105

Thank you very much po. Again, sir, to your ears ito.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004106

I would like to, to make it clear at this point po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004107

Ah, yung Civil Aviation and Immigration Security Services program po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004108

or CAIS na tinatawag, ah, it remains under review.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004109

And no final decision, ah, has been made concerning this project.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004110

We support the modernization of our border security system,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004111

but, ah, it should not be interpreted as an automatic approval

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004112

of the, this particular proposal or its terms.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004113

So, ang proponent po must, ah, justify yung proposed fee,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004114

the technology, financial structure, and other.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004115

commercial terms.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004116

And the government,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004117

not only through the BI,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004118

but other concerned agencies

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004119

like the PPP,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004120

the DOJ,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004121

the Department of Finance,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004122

must independently determine

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004123

whether these are necessary,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004124

reasonable,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004125

and in the public interest.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004126

Ngayon po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004127

do we think that it's in the public interest?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004128

We believe that it is a viable project

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004129

which would strengthen

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004130

border control and security.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004131

The CAIS is an integrated,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004132

intelligence-driven,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004133

border security system

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004134

that combines advanced passenger information,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004135

merong biometrics,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004136

may automated immigration processing,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004137

may threat analytics,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004138

and centralized command and control capabilities.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004139

And guaranteed po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004140

ang technology refresh every four years

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004141

for the next 20 years.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004142

Initially po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004143

ang 10.7 billion po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004144

ang magagastos dito ng private proponent

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004145

for this project.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004146

Now, in the next 20 years,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004147

ang estimate po is

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004148

mga 116 billion po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004149

ang magagastos sila for operations, etc.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004150

For the hardware upgrade,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004151

it's about 52.2 billion

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004152

for the next 20 years.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004153

Ang objective po is to move

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004154

the bureaucracy,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004155

from predominantly manual

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004156

and reactive screening approach

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004157

to a proactive risk-based control system.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004158

We have to contend po

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004159

as international travel increases,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004160

nagiging masophisticated po yung methods

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004161

involving fraudulent documents,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004162

aliases,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004163

synthetic identities,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004164

human trafficking,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004165

terrorism,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004166

and other forms of transnational crime.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004167

And this system will enable the Bureau

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004168

to identify

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004169

high-risk,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004170

low-risk travelers earlier,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004171

before they reach the physical border,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004172

while allowing legitimate,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004173

low-risk travelers to be processed

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004174

more efficiently.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004175

Ngayon po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004176

ang konsepto po nito is

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004177

we are expanding the borders.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004178

Meaning, hindi lang po sa physical borders

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004179

na ho natin makokontrol,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004180

but even before they board the plane,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004181

alam na po natin kung pwedeng,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004182

dapat ba silang papasukay nung hindi.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004183

Yan po yung konsepto nung

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004184

kais, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004185

Kom Joel, just ano,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004186

eto ba'y ano,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004187

do you have parang network na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004188

international database na yung mga fugitives

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004189

and yung pong mga may mga derogatory records,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004190

especially kung may mga terrorist sim yan?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004191

Eto bang ano,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004192

is this part of this,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004193

is this part,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004194

is the information part of this project?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004195

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004196

Kasama ho dyan ang analytics ng muka

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004197

na nakikita po natin sa internet.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004198

So billions of faces ho makikita dyan.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004199

Meron din hong naka,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004200

naka ano po yan,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004201

nakakonekta sa Interpol database

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004202

and other databases ho na relevant po dito sa ano po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004203

kung kailangan papasukin ng isang individual o hindi.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004204

So is this integrated with other border control system of other countries?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004205

Yes po. Yan po ang,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004206

Your Honor, yan po ang objective, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004207

And capability po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004208

Presently, how many countries, almost all,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004209

I presume mga first world countries

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004210

are already using this system?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004211

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004212

Ang proponent po is US-based.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004213

So based on information provided to us,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004214

they operate the system with other partners

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004215

within four major cities po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004216

Four major airports in four major cities in the United States.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004217

Meron din po sila sa Asia,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004218

meron po sa Africa and Europe.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004219

Yan po, all over the world po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004220

Merong ano, diba?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004221

May information na,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004222

yun sa manifesto pa lang ng mga incoming passengers,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004223

possible ba na malalaman nyo na

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004224

na meron itong mga ito,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004225

or these people are,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004226

halimbawa, international terrorist,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004227

or fugitive,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004228

o meron yung records sa iba?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004229

Kasama rin ba ito sa ano?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004230

Kasama na rin dito?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004231

Yes po, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004232

Yan po ang tinatawag na

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004233

Advanced Passenger Information System.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004234

Ngayon po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004235

bago pa po mag-board,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004236

pagka nagbigay na po ng manifesto ang isang aeroplano,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004237

pag sakay po ng isang tao sa airport,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004238

doon sa aeroplano po sa airport,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004239

on the way or in transit,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004240

ibabato na po sa amin yung information.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004241

So malalaman po namin kung isa pong tao ay dapat papasukin sa atin.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004242

So we have been using this system

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004243

na-exclude po ang ibang,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004244

marami na pong mga nagtatangka rito magtago,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004245

o mga pugante po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004246

o fugitives from other countries.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004247

Ito pong system ng CAIS

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004248

will integrate and

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004249

also improve upon that system.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004250

So pagka dito sa CAIS project po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004251

let's say meron ho 20 years ago,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004252

a certain person made a pronouncement,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004253

posted it on the web,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004254

terroristic yung kanyang tendency or activity,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004255

the system can read that.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004256

Ang ano rin dito, may gastusin ba tayo rito?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004257

Or is this entirely PPP?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004258

Wala po tayong gastusin, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004259

But what sets this apart from the other

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004260

border management information system?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004261

Yung currently nasa GAA, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004262

Anong pagkakaiba na ito?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004263

Is this integrated?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004264

Magiging linked ba ito when it becomes operational?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004265

Ito po integrative, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004266

Iintegrate po dito yung iba't ibang systems

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004267

that we are currently enjoying or using, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004268

Ito po kasi, ang sa atin ngayon,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004269

manual, manually based, reactive.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004270

Ito po proactive, meaning bago pa ho dumating sa mga borders natin,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004271

based on the information available on the web,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004272

based on the information available or given to us

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004273

or integrated with our system,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004274

na available sa iba't ibang bansa and other agencies

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004275

dito sa Pilipinas, we can determine

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004276

the, not the capability, not only the capability,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004277

but the, if, whether or not we will admit a person

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004278

or that person is privileged enough to enter the Philippines.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004279

Yan po ang ano, yan po ang sistema na.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004280

That's a very good, that's very good news.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004281

At least, ano na ngayon, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004282

The use of technology, we can already monitor those

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004283

that were incoming pa lang,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004284

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004285

and those outgoing.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004286

Lalo na kung,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004287

terrorist ba yan o fugitive.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004288

At least, those undesirable aliens will not be allowed anymore to enter.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004289

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004290

Wang ano lang, tanong lang, Mr. Chair, dahil ito'y PPP,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004291

paano sila, paano babawiin ang proponent

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004292

or how will they, ano po ang income dito?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004293

Since it's a public-private partnership.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004294

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004295

Meron pong proposed service fee,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004296

which amounts to $4 per travel,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004297

per ano po, per kada biyahe po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004298

So that's approximately about,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004299

One entry?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004300

Ano po, for one travel po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004301

Kung round trip po yan, that's eight US dollars.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004302

Yes po.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004303

So that's approximately a little over 240 pesos.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004304

But if you can compare that to other countries,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004305

sa ibang bansa po kasi,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004306

Australia charges about 2,600.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004307

I was supposed to ask that,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004308

how does it compare to other countries, yung rates?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004309

Yes po, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004310

So paano sa ibang bansa, mas mata?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004311

Ang pinakamababa nga po, Your Honor,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004312

would be Japan, that's about 1,100 pesos,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004313

as compared to 242 sa atin.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004314

Ang Hong Kong charges about 1,400, 1,500.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004315

Ang Thailand, around 1,800.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004316

Ang Australia, 2,600.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004317

So ganyan po ang range.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004318

Ang Singapore is about 2,400.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004319

So yan po ang, ano po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004320

yan po ang range ng mga sinisigil po ng ibang bansa.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004321

Maaring hindi po natin halita.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004322

Pero naka-integrate po yan sa, sa ano po natin, sa ticket.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004323

Sa airline ticket.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004324

So tayo ngayon, walang charge?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004325

Wala po tayong sinacharge, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004326

Parang ano rito, you know, kasi there's such a thing doon

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004327

sa pag may financial company ka or banks,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004328

yung Credit Investigation Bureau.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004329

You pay, you, for a fee, you can get information, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004330

Para sa mga credit, sa mga credit, sa mga banks, financial institutions.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004331

So ito, parang in international community,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004332

baka kakakuha kayong information about persons, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004333

About yung kanila pong records, especially kung terrorism

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004334

o ano man ang kanilang records, international records.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004335

Ito ba yun, ah?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004336

That's part of it na yung database?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004337

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004338

So ano to?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004339

Also for the protection and safety of everyone, no?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004340

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004341

Your Honor, as a matter of fact, we directed the private proponent

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004342

to commence with the public consultation process.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004343

So ibig sabihin, ang mechanics po niyan, inaayos na po nila.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004344

Ang sabi nga po namin sa kanila, mag-ano tayo, magkaroon kayo ng, ah,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004345

ng public na ano, na, na paggamit po para masubukan po ng mga nakaka, ano po,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004346

nag-interesado at nakakalam kung paano po nag-working system.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004347

We're actually working on that.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004348

The proponent has been directed to do that, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004349

But it's still under evaluation, no? I presume.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004350

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004351

Yes, Your Honor.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004352

It's still under evaluation.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004353

It's still under contract, technical review.

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004354

It's still undergoing the review process with the PPP Center, with the DOJ,

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004355

with the Bureau of Immigration, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004356

Kasi baka mamaya sabihin ng mga pasahero,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004357

tatanggal.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004358

Tatanggal niyang travel tax, may bagong fee.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004359

But this will be, will this be charged to passengers?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004360

Sa mga travelers po, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004361

Sa mga travelers?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004362

It's a service fee, Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004363

Service fee?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004364

Yes po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004365

But under, it's now under evaluation?

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado

asr-004366

Yes, po. It's under evaluation, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004367

Okay, ah, thank you.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004368

Siguro, Mr. Chair, thank you sa Commissioner Joel for at least na-elaborate niyo

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004369

lalo niyo sa E-Gates issue and lahat sa KAIS.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004370

Ahm.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004371

Doon sa Witness Protection Program, siguro, ahm, ano lang, ahm,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004372

sik, no, yung, just like to us as Chair of Committee on Finance,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004373

ah, yung siguro na-recommend naman ating Vice Chair,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004374

yung pong, ah, yung inyong pong ano rito,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004375

yung inyong budget for your Witness Protection Program,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004376

is it enough already for 20, 27?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004377

Considering na medyo marami tayong tinatanggap dito, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004378

So, magkano bang budget natin ngayong taon?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004379

Magkano ang proposed budget next year?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004380

Para dito?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004381

Kasi, parang sa aming pagtingin, walang, essentially, walang change, walang dagdag, walang bawas, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004382

So, sa nabanggit.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004383

So, pero meron kayong additional request sa 500 million pero hindi na ibigay ng DBM, tama ba?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004384

Ang, the biggest part na nawala po dito is yung confidential fund, oh.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004385

Kasi we're, we're working on a budget of around 500 million for 2026.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004386

We will be really hard-pressed to continue with the same level of scaling yung aming engagements.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004387

Ongoing engagements, that's a problem po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004388

So, if we can go back to 2026 levels, Your Honors, that's the basic request, Your Honor.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004389

So, ang wish niyo is just to go back to 2026 levels?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004390

2026 levels.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004391

2026 levels.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004392

2026 levels.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004393

2026 levels.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004394

So, I would like to ask, Secretary, because I want to know whether the department is anticipating more additional state witnesses,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004395

kasi alam ko ginagastusan ninyo rin ito, particularly in connection with the flood control investigations, no?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004396

Medyo na marami rin ito eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004397

So, yun pong, just like to ask, may dagdag ba tayo o sapat na ang kasalukuyang budget?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004398

These are variables that we cannot foretell or predict, Your Honor.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004399

Yes.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004400

So, given the current system we have, we will be able to take on more witnesses if necessary.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004401

Sanay naman po ang Department of Justice yan at yung program natin na pag maikli ang kumot po, babaluktot na lang po.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004402

Speaking of state witnesses, ano po ba ang malino na kriteriya bago i-admit ang mga accused bilang state witness?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004403

If I may ask, PG Dong, who's...

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004404

PG Dong, lagi naman itong suki dito.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004405

So, aside from the value of testimony and evidence they can provide, do you consider the extent na kanilang participation sa krimen, kung magkano ang kanilang ibabalik?

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004406

So, siguro, PG Dong, please.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004407

Yes, with the permission of the Secretary, Mr. Chair, yung doon muna sa issue po kung ano yung qualifications, kailangan po, hindi po lahat ng tao na nag-a-apply sa program are automatically admitted.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004408

There are certain qualifications among them. Number one, that the person, well, the case involves a grave, one where the penalty is a grave penalty.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004409

Number two, it also entails na yung sasabihin ng tao is substantially relevant, meron siyang kahalagahan doon sa kaso, and it can be corroborated on most of its material points.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004410

So, lastly, hindi siya yung pinaka-guilty doon sa kaso.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004411

Sa usapin naman po nung pagsasoli, hindi po yan nakasaad sa ating batas. It's not categorically stated that there is restitution.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004412

However, during po, kung halimbawa, after the evaluation at nakita na itong potential applicant is qualified, then ang mangyayari po is magkakaroon po sila ng kasunduan, a memorandum of agreement that will be signed between the applicant and the Secretary of Justice.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004413

Doon po, meron pong mga kondisyon o meron pong mga kasunduan na maaaring ilahad. At doon na po papasok yung usapin kung meron po tayong mga makukuha o meron silang isusoli bilang bahagi nung kanilang pag-a-apply po o pag-a-apply nila sa ating programa.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004414

May madadagdag pa pa tayo, Sek? Siguro quickly, dahil marami nagtatanong pa rito sa flood control.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004415

Sa mga makakasuhan na mga contractors,

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004416

congressmen, kasi po, pasensya na po, pero yung cong-tractors, marami rito, ito yung mga nagsimula ng modus eh.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004417

Inaantay natin kung kailan sila matutuloyan dahil ayaw natin maulit muli ito.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004418

Well, sir, yung tulad po na sinabi ni Secretary of Justice, marami hung variables eh.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004419

Kasi even during the time when the cases are already filed in court,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004420

maari pong magpa-discharge pa rin ng isang akusado to become a state witness.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004421

And as a consequence, they are being admitted or asked to be admitted sa program.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004422

So yan po eh, depende sa kung ano po ang may dadagdag o may tutulong ng testimonya.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004423

Insofar as the other cases involving yung sa flood control,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004424

alam ko po marami pa pong mga kaso, marami na hung kasong na-file.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004425

There are about 14 live cases which have been filed, referred to the Office of the Ombudsman.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004426

At hinahawakan din po ng ating...

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004427

mga prosecutors sa Department of Justice.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004428

But I believe that there are also cases which are being evaluated

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004429

and continually being investigated by the National Bureau of Investigation.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004430

Ito po ay patuloy dahil hindi po nagtatapos doon sa mga naisampang kaso lang.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004431

Patuloy po na nangangalap ng ebidensya din po ang National Bureau of Investigation

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004432

para matingnan po yung liability and who else can be held accountable.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004433

Okay, thank you.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004434

At least you may mention.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004435

At that time also na yung mga most guilty, hindi dapat pwede silang maging kasama rito.

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-004436

Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004437

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004438

I just have a few more questions.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004439

Doon sa usapin ng...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004440

Well, just to follow up on the questions on restitution.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004441

I remember during the flood control hearings,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004442

si...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004443

Yusek Bonoan testified as to the...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004444

No, Bernardo. Yusek Bernardo testified as to the amounts that were turned over to Yusek,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004445

to Secretary Bonoan.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004446

And ang alam ko, mas malaki dito sa 1.841 million.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004447

So far na restitute.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004448

How are you moving forward with that in that regard?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004449

I mean, how do you reconcile that?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004450

I know it's not in the law, but if there was a testimony to that effect,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004451

and under oath, and a figure was, how do you call it, identified,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004452

in the context of the figures that you have restituted?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004453

Well, how do you decide that, okay, ito yung sinasabing dinilibre sa kanya, porsyento,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004454

15% ba for every year? Can we get the data?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004455

...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004456

15% every year.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004457

So how much was that?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004458

Basta he gave a specific amount.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004459

15% a year for three years?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004460

Like 15 days.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004461

...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004462

5 billion, okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004463

Every year, diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004464

5 billion every year for three years was the testimony.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004465

5 billion every year for three years was the testimony, of course, under oath.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004466

So if you have that data, and you have this amount,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004467

and you made him state witness,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004468

how do you reconcile the testimony of about 15 billion pesos received,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004469

whether true or not, we don't, well, you know, we will have to assume that

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004470

he said it under oath unless there is proof to the contrary.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004471

How do you reconcile that as a matter of state policy?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004472

Mr. Chair, just a point of clarification.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004473

You're referring to Secretary?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004474

Secretary Bonoan, sir?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004475

My understanding, based on the testimony, because I was here,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004476

it was the testimony of Yusec Bernardo,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004477

who said that he turned over to Secretary Bonoan

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004478

the amount of, yun na nga, every year for three years, 5 billion.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004479

So if his statement, unless rebutted, is evidence,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004480

then that's about 15 billion.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004481

Again, unless rebutted, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004482

But he is now a state witness.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004483

Both of them are state witnesses.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004484

So how do you, as a matter of state policy,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004485

policy of the state, how do you reconcile that?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004486

Mr. Chair, if I may clarify,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004487

insofar as the testimony of Undersecretary Bernardo,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004488

relative to the amounts paid to,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004489

or delivered to then Secretary Bonoan.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004490

I believe this, insofar as the admission

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004491

or the declaration of Secretary Bonoan

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004492

to be a state witness,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004493

the Department of Justice had nothing to do with that.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004494

He was not processed

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004495

and he was not an applicant

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004496

under the Witness Protection Program.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004497

So kinasuhan po, he was among those who was charged

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004498

and I think when the case was filed

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004499

before the Office of the Sandigan Bayan, ah,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004500

Office of the Ombudsman, which then

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004501

in turn filed it with the Sandigan

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004502

Bayan, it was only then

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004503

that it was decided that he would be

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004504

utilized as a state witness.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004505

That is a matter which is not visible

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004506

to the department as to the conditions

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004507

and if there is any

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004508

offer of any return in the computation.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004509

Now, we can

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004510

speak of

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004511

the manner by which

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004512

we make computations insofar

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004513

as witnesses who offer

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004514

to restitute or to return

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004515

people's money.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004516

Tulad po ng halimbawa,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004517

kung halimbawa yung

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004518

pagpalagay na natin si Sally Santos,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004519

we ask and we

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004520

inquire based on the statement that were

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004521

provided, for example, how many

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004522

government projects she was involved

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004523

in and how much the percentage

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004524

is that she's supposed to have

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004525

received per project.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004526

And on the basis of the

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004527

declaration, and then we validate

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004528

it also from the other

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004529

respondents, dun po namin

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004530

kinukompute kung magkano yung

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004531

sinasabi nilang, o,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004532

magkano yung susoli ko.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004533

So, there is a basis, no?

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004534

There is a basis for the computation.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004535

It's not a number which is just

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-004536

plucked out from the air, po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004537

If I may add, Mr.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004538

Yes, go ahead, Secretary.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004539

Ang maganda po dun sa agreement namin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004540

with the four current state witnesses,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004541

it's project specific.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004542

So, pag may nadiscovery pa ho

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004543

ang gobyerno o ang pamahalaan

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004544

na sangkot pa siya sa

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004545

ibang project, kumita pa siya,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004546

hindi yun kasama.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004547

Specific lang po ito dun sa particular

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004548

na proyekto na kung saan sinabi

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004549

niya, kumita siya,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004550

pero inaamin niya na

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004551

ito ay maling paraan ng

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004552

pagkita, kaya ibinalik niya sa gobyerno.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004553

Okay, but I think

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004554

even if this is

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004555

not with the DOJ, the government

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004556

has the obligation

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004557

I think, to clarify, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004558

And reconcile that.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004559

But as you said, this is

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004560

with the ombudsman's office

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004561

rather than with the DOJ.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004562

Because we'd like to know.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004563

We're interested.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004564

If 15 billion was

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004565

in fact

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004566

the amounts that were

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004567

spirited away,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004568

you know, how much was

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004569

restituted, if any?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004570

Hindi ba? Anyway,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004571

that's something that

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004572

perhaps the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004573

the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004574

chairman of the finance committee can ask

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004575

the ombudsman.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004576

Or maybe in plenary.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004577

Anyway, we can proceed.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004578

A few more

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004579

items lang. May we request

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004580

a separate meeting before

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004581

plenary

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004582

with the secretary and the director

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004583

on the issue of the smuggling

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004584

of agriculture products.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004585

Like I said, I'm willing

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004586

to meet you every day

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004587

just to get this thing going

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004588

moving forward.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004589

Because we

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004590

we are in the process of finalizing

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004591

our committee report on the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004592

agriculture smuggling that we

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004593

had hearings that we had conducted

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004594

on agriculture

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004595

smuggling.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004596

And we'd like to get your inputs,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004597

Secretary.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004598

Yes, Your Honor. We will make ourselves available

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004599

for that meeting.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004600

Okay, thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004601

So that I don't have to discuss that here.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004602

The other item is

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004603

the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004604

Sagip Saka law.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004605

For the information,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004606

we already wrote to you officially,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004607

for the information of our other

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004608

resource persons,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004609

the Sagip

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004610

Saka Act

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004611

allows for government

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004612

entities, both national and local,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004613

to purchase directly from farmers

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004614

and fisherfolk organizations,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004615

accredited

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004616

food

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004617

and agriculture products for

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004618

the different programs without

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004619

being exempted from the law.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004620

For example,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004621

the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004622

the BJMP

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004623

has purchased about

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004624

591 million

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004625

591 million worth of food

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004626

directly

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004627

from farmers and fisherfolk.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004628

In fact, one

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004629

farmers organization in

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004630

San Luis,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004631

Pampanga, sold

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004632

to 13

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004633

million pesos worth of agriculture products

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004634

to the jails.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004635

Both in Region 3 and NCR.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004636

Sorry, not 13, 7.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004637

And in that

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004638

year, they sold

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004639

13 million pesos worth of agriculture products

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004640

to the jails.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004641

And

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004642

directly, wala ng public bidding.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004643

And

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004644

sabi nung BJMP,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004645

hindi tulad dati nung hindi sila bumibili

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004646

direkta sa mga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004647

sa mga magsasaka,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004648

parang

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004649

ano yan?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004650

The term was kanin-baboy.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004651

Parang kanin-baboy yung hinahain

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004652

na pagkain sa mga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004653

nasa persons with

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004654

deprived of

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004655

liberties, yung mga PDL.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004656

But because

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004657

bumili na sila direkta sa farmers,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004658

13 million

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004659

pesos ang kinita nung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004660

isang farmers association,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004661

tapos masarap pa yung pagkain

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004662

at sariwa. So that's

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004663

one farmers organization.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004664

And the amount

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004665

was 590 million.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004666

It also goes back to the local

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004667

economy.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004668

So the local retail,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004669

mga sari-sari store,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004670

mga jeep, mga tricycle,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004671

mga retail store sa lugar,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004672

bumabalik yung pera, may panggastos.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004673

So we'd

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004674

like to know,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004675

I understand the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004676

BuCor has about 2 billion pesos

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004677

worth of food purchases.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004678

Hindi naman natin ilalahat,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004679

but at least a portion

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004680

of that should be

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004681

allocated

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004682

to purchase rice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004683

perhaps or other

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004684

agriculture products or food items

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004685

sa ating mga magsasaka at

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004686

mangingisda. The Quezon City

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004687

Government, also because of the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004688

Sagipsaka Act,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004689

yung kanilang rice subsidy,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004690

they purchased about

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004691

500 million pesos worth of rice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004692

directly sa mga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004693

farmers associations under

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004694

the Irrigators Association Network

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004695

of the NIA.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004696

So direkta yun.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004697

In fact,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004698

the Quezon City Government,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004699

if they went through the regular

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004700

bidding process, would have

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004701

bought per kilo

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004702

of rice about

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004703

65 pesos.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004704

But they bought it at 55

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004705

pesos directly wholesale.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004706

Sa mga farmers.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004707

And the total amount that they were

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004708

able to save was

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004709

had they, if they

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004710

bought it from the bidding process,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004711

would have been additional 200

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004712

million pesos.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004713

So malaki

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004714

ang epekto at direkta

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004715

sa ating mga magsasaka.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004716

So, Bucor

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004717

has 2 billion.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004718

Baka you can put in place a

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004719

program similar to what

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004720

the BJMP is doing.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004721

I know it's a little more complicated

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004722

because mas nasyonal,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004723

malaki, BJMP is more

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004724

decentralized. But

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004725

would you care to comment,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004726

Secretary Vida and

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004727

General Greg?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004728

Yes, thank you very much, Your Honor.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004729

We do acknowledge the benefit

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004730

for everyone, all sectors,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004731

farmers natin, especially

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004732

yung procurement namin, mas magiging

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004733

madali. And we also acknowledge

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004734

the

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004735

mandate under our Republic Act

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004736

number 11321.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004737

Pursuant to it,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004738

Executive Order 101

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004739

was also issued, series of 2025.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004740

And also our

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004741

GPPB, circular, number

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004742

02-2025.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004743

Given this, the Office

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004744

of the Secretary has already

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004745

requested all the

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004746

attached agencies to submit

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004747

all

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004748

purchases, all projects related

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004749

to this. But to make this

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004750

permanent, to make

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004751

it scalable,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004752

and to be a continuing

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004753

effort of the DOJ family,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004754

the Office of the

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004755

Secretary will be issuing

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004756

soon, subject to

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004757

legal scrubbing and vetting,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004758

a department circular, which will

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004759

give guidelines on the

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004760

implementation of the

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004761

provisions of the Sagib-Saka Act.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004762

Basically, at ang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004763

critical dito, Your Honor, is

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004764

coming up with an annual report

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004765

so that we can guide

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004766

you. We also check

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004767

ourselves, we also

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004768

will be able to give that report

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004769

to Your Honor and to the Senate

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004770

so that we get a monitoring

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004771

and see the real benefit.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004772

of the provisions

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-004773

of Sagip Saka Act, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004774

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004775

Subject to that submission.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004776

With the permission of our

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004777

Secretary. Yes, Secretary

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004778

Greg Tuloy.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004779

Senator Tuloy.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004780

General. Yes, sir.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004781

Greg, go ahead.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004782

On the part

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004783

of Bucor, we bid

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004784

out the food

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004785

amounting to 100

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004786

pesos per day.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004787

But the bidding process

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004788

will require

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004789

the

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004790

one who is the winning bidder

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004791

to buy, procure, acquire

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004792

farm products from the local

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004793

farmer cooperatives of the

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004794

OPPFs. And also

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004795

we'd like to inform our

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004796

good Senator that our

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004797

PDLs are also farmers.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004798

We have about

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004799

32,000 hectares of

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004800

farmland. That's why we call

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004801

our OPPFs

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004802

operating prison and

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004803

penal farms. So

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004804

all over the

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004805

colonies that we have, we have

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004806

penal farms. We also produce our

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004807

own food. And hopefully

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004808

in the future, it will be the

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004809

PDLs who will

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004810

provide food for them.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004811

Para po, mas

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004812

masustansya ang kanilang

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004813

pagkain. But the local

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004814

in fact, we have

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004815

already a joint venture with the Department

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004816

of Agriculture. Yes, yes.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004817

Kaya so kuminsang may sobra pa po

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004818

kaming pagkain. Meron po

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004819

kaming weekly na

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004820

bilihan ng

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004821

bayan. Mura yung pagkain.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004822

Nakakatulong po kami. We want to be part

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004823

of the food security

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004824

of our country, yung mga PDLs.

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004825

Because they have the

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004826

know-how and they are there

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004827

in the farms and they can produce food

BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.

asr-004828

for our country. Baka naman

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004829

once they have completed the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004830

service of their sentence, hindi na sila aalik.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004831

Dahil

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004832

meron na silang

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004833

pagsasakahan.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004834

But anyway, can you

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004835

submit to us the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004836

documentation? Because

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004837

we'd like to see, no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004838

We're trying to document

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004839

for example,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004840

magkana yung total na sila?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004841

11 billion.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004841-split-2

...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004842

...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004843

Because, what year is that?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004844

...

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004845

As of September 2026.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004846

Based on the data that has been

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004847

forwarded to us, about 11.6

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004848

billion pesos worth of

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004849

agri-products has been purchased

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004850

by the national and local governments

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004851

sa ating farmers and fisher folk

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004852

directly because of

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004853

this law. But the data

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004854

given us by DBM,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004855

their estimate is about

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004856

170 plus

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004857

billion pesos

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004858

worth of food is purchased

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004859

by the entire

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004860

government.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004861

Every year.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004862

So, if you think about it,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004863

in the realm of

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004864

what is possible,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004865

wala na dapat magsasaka at

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004866

mangingisda na mahirap.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004867

Dahil gobyerno pa lang,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004868

hindi na silang mawawalan

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004869

ng pagbibentahan.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004870

So, and critical for

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004871

our farmers is

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004872

that the produce is

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004873

purchased at the right

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004874

price. Hindi yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004875

binabarat sila.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004876

Bigos ang nangyayari. Dahil sila

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004877

binabarat,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004878

pinabubulok na lang yung mga kamatis

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004879

dahil wala naman

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004880

bibili na lang ng apat na piso

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004881

isang kilo,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004882

eh pag kumuha pa sila ng labor

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004883

para anihin,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004884

gagasos pa sila ng labor,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004885

tapos 4 pesos,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004886

eh pabubulokin na lang nila.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004887

Dahil lugi na sila.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004888

Pero kung nandyan ang gobyerno

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004889

na bibili direkta sa kanila,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004890

ay malaking bagay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004891

Hindi lang sila, hindi magtatanim

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004892

para sa pang-araw-araw,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004893

magtatanim sila at mag-aarkila

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004894

pa siguro ng

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004895

equipment o kaya bibili

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004896

o kaya mapapautang,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004897

magdadagdag ng

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004898

trabahante, kasi may market

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004899

sila na bibilin sa tamang

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004900

presyo.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004901

And for all of us, actually,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004902

we did a study,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004903

the cost of bringing

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004904

vegetables

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004905

from Baguio,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004906

to Manila,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004907

is about, today, about 10 pesos

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004908

per kilo.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004909

Because of, in other words,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004910

if you buy it, binibenta noon

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004911

ng 4,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004912

4 na piso, 1 kilo,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004913

ang kamatis last year,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004914

pag dinagdagan mo ng 10 piso,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004915

dapat yung kamatis dito

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004916

sa Manila,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004917

eh 15 pesos per kilo.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004918

Dagdagan mo na lang ng

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004919

ng doble,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004920

eh 30 pesos sa kilo

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004921

para meron kang kita.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004922

Pero, at the same time,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004923

ang bentahan ng kamatis dito sa Metro

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004924

Manila was 90 pesos sa kilo.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004925

In other words,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004926

merong

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004927

60 pesos margin.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004928

Diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004929

Malaki ang pera

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004930

sa agrikultura.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004931

Malaki ang problema

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004932

na mahal

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004933

ang pagkain. May kumikita

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004934

ng limpak-limpak

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004935

na salapi,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004936

habang ginugutom

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004937

ang magsasaka, at

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004938

tayong lahat ay nagbabayad

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004939

ng doble hanggang triple

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004940

sa presyo ng pagkain.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004941

So, anyway,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004942

and one way of doing that

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004943

is providing them the necessary

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004944

access to the markets para

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004945

gumanda ang kanilang kita, magtanim pa sila,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004946

gumanda ang supply ng pagkain,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004947

pag maganda na ang supply ng pagkain,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004948

bababa ang presyo ng pagkain.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004949

Lahat tayo makikinabang.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004950

And finally,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004951

so we will request for the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004952

submission

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004953

of this, of your

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004954

program, and we will

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004955

look at how much

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004956

of your budget actually goes to

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004957

farmers and fisher folk. Kasi baka

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004958

nga, bidding yan.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004959

I mean, pag-aralan ninyo, baka kasi

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004960

pwedeng, a portion of it

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004961

is bid out, while

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004962

a portion of it is a direct purchase

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004963

by the,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004964

by, diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004965

By the BuCor,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004966

or, in other words, hybrid siya.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004967

And,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004968

you will have a lot of LGUs.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004969

Lalo na, Nueva Ecija,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004970

Tardlac,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004971

Pangasinan,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004972

na pwedeng direktang

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004973

makipag-ugnayan sa inyo para yung farmers

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004974

group sila, sa inyo na, de-direcho.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004975

Sariwa pa.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004976

You know, nung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004977

dumirekta ang Isabela

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004978

at dineliver sa mga LGUs

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004979

sa Metro Manila

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004980

yung kanilang bigas,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004981

ang tawag doon, Isabela Rice,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004982

mabango.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004983

Diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004984

Iyon yung pinagbigay na ayuda

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004985

during COVID.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004986

After that, ayaw na nila nung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004987

NFA Rice eh.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004988

Kasi, ang bango-bango daw nung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004989

Isabela Rice, tsaka malagkit pa.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004990

So, we all benefit from

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004991

supply chains that are seamless.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004992

And finally,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004993

actually,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004994

two more points.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004995

We'd like to clarify

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004996

your conviction and,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004997

well,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004998

your case,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-004999

your conviction rates,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005000

or success.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005001

Kasi, based on your data,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005002

90 plus percent,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005003

what is the term?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005004

What is the term?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005005

Success rate.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005006

But success rate is not

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005007

conviction rate.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005008

These are two different

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005009

numbers.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005010

My understanding is,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005011

your prosecution success rate

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005012

so far

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005013

in 2026 is

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005014

91 percent.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005015

But your conviction rate

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005016

is 59 percent.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005017

The year before,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005018

2025, your success rate

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005019

prosecution

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005020

was 90.8 percent,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005021

but your conviction rate was

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005022

44.7%.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005023

So, what is the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005024

international standard

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005025

of conviction rates?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005026

Because if this is correct,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005027

then,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005028

you're only convicting

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005029

less than 50 percent

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005030

of the cases that are

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005031

prosecuted.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005032

Tama ba yun?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005033

So,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005034

we'd like to,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005035

you know,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005036

if that's correct,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005037

then, how,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005038

my question is,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005039

how do we increase

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005040

the conviction rates?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005041

Because the international

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005042

standard,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005043

if I'm not mistaken,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005044

is about 80.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005045

80 percent

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005046

to 90 percent.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005047

Sa Japan ata,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005048

90 percent

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005049

ang conviction rate nila.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005050

Of course,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005051

we need to get,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005052

validate that data,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005053

but this is taken from

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005054

chat GPT

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005055

or AI.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005056

So, we have to validate that.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005057

But mataas,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005058

70 percent,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005059

80 percent conviction rates.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005060

This is conviction.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005061

So, could you clarify that?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005062

And we'd like to know,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005063

if that's the case,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005064

if that is true,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005065

that it's 44 percent.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005066

We'd like to see

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005067

improvement

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005068

in that regard.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005069

And,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005070

if you agree with me,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005071

that it needs improvement,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005072

what do you intend,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005073

how do you intend

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005074

to go about it?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005075

So, while you're going

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005076

through that,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005077

Yusek,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005078

Marco,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005079

do you have the provision

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005080

that we requested?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005081

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005082

What does the local

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005083

government code say?

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005084

The local government code

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005085

in particular section 17

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005086

requires the local government units

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005087

to endeavor to be self-reliant

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005088

and it provides for,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005089

it should provide basic services

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005090

enumerated under section 17 letter,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005091

let number three,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005092

sub-item six.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005093

It provides for provincial buildings

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005094

and provincial jails,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005095

Your Honor.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005096

So, that requires,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005097

the local government code requires

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005098

that the provincial jails,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005099

the provinces actually manage

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005100

and own provincial jails.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005101

In the past,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005102

Your Honors,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005103

we have been getting,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005104

Does it say manage and own?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005105

It just says,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005106

should have,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005107

should provide?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005108

Provide for the basic services.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005109

What was your first line?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005110

What was your first phrase?

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005111

Local government units

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005112

shall endeavor to be self-reliant.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005113

Shall endeavor.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005114

Shall endeavor to be self-reliant

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005115

and shall be self-reliant.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005116

Correct, Mr. Chair.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005117

It doesn't say,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005118

shall be self-reliant.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005119

It says,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005120

it shall endeavor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005121

Which means,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005122

if it cannot,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005123

it will attempt,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005124

to endeavor,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005125

but it is.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005126

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005127

So, the mandate is not exclusive.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005128

That is correct, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005129

So, you can have an executive order

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005130

that will transfer BJMP

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005131

to the DOJ.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005132

Yes, Your Honor.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005133

We are about to draft that EO

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005134

ready for approval

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005135

by the President, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005136

Yeah.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005137

In other words,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005138

the primary,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005139

it does not say that the LGUs

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005140

have primary responsibility

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005141

for the jails.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005142

Yes, Your Honor.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005143

They shall maintain,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005144

they shall,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005145

so, pwede.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005146

Based on our study, Your Honor,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005147

we have legal basis

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005148

for the President

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005149

to actually issue the EO.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005150

This has been done before

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005151

during the time of Fidel Ramos.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005152

He issued an EO

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005153

transferring the Philippine Coast Guard

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005154

from the Philippine Navy

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005155

to the office of the President

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005156

and then he later on

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005157

was transferred to the office

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005158

of the DOTR.

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005159

So, there's a President,

DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco

asr-005160

Mr. Chair.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005161

Yes.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005162

Okay, good.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005163

So, when do you intend

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005164

to implement that,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005165

Secretary Vida?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005166

Do you have at least

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005167

a working deadline?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005168

Yes, yes.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005169

Gives a clear roadmap na po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005170

Your Honor,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005171

on the matter.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005172

And if I understand it correctly,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005173

Secretary Remulia,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005174

that's not an object.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005175

Diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005176

He supports it.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005177

Diba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005178

I think that was

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005179

what was earlier mentioned.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005180

Okay, good.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005181

So, you should be able

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005182

to do that soon.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005183

We did it

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005184

as soon as,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005185

before I sat

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005186

as Secretary of Food Security,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005187

the EO was

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005188

issued,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005189

nilipat lahat

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005190

ng apat na agencies

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005191

from DA to

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005192

to OP.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005193

So, madali na yun.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005194

That can happen

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005195

before the end of the year

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005196

if you really want it.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005197

If the President

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005198

really wants it.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005199

Okay.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005200

So,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005201

my last question,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005202

the conviction rates.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005203

Go ahead.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005204

Data for 2025.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005205

Total number of

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005206

decided court cases,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005207

is 404,124.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005208

Pag tinignan po natin nun,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005209

ang data natin,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005210

180,000 of those cases

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005211

were convictions.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005212

No?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005213

That's 44%.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005214

Pero meron pa hong yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005215

acquital na 18,234.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005216

Meron pa rin compromise

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005217

or those successfully mediated,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005218

23,017.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005219

Meron din po yung court

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005220

na in-archive

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005221

na 30,000

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005222

and transfer 14,000.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005223

Yung transfer po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005224

ng jurisdiction.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005225

So, 44 as against

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005226

sa 56%.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005227

56% were disposed

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005228

by the court.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005229

Iba hong naging ruta.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005230

Iba hong naging conclusion.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005231

Sana po tayo papunta

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005232

dun sa conviction rate natin.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005233

Nung inilabas po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005234

ng Department of Justice,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005235

yung atin pong

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005236

pagtataas ng antas

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005237

ng pag-file ng kaso.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005238

Ito po yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005239

prima facie evidence

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005240

with reasonable certainty

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005241

of conviction.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005242

Nakita na po namin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005243

epekto. Bakit po?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005244

Ngayon, 2026 po,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005245

first semester,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005246

yung 44.75,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005247

59.21 na po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005248

ang conviction rate natin.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005249

Yes, almost 60%.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005250

Okay.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005251

So, ito po ay isa sa mga

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005252

reforma, isa sa mga

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005253

inisiyatibo para mapataas natin.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005254

Ang maganda po dito,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005255

nakikita rin namin yung

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005256

pagbawas ng kaso

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005257

na nakakarating na sa korte.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005258

Bakit po?

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005259

Dahil nga,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005260

kung mas mataas na yung antas

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005261

bago namin sila

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005262

ma-file na ng information,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005263

yung hindi dapat kasuhan,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005264

hindi na namin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005265

kinakasuhan.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005266

At ang maganda dito,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005267

yung access to legal service,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005268

Your Honor.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005269

Kasi alam naman natin,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005270

dati nung probable cause,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005271

pag tinarget ka

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005272

at gusto kang victimahin

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005273

ng isang complainant

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005274

na merong kakayanang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005275

kumuha ng abogado

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005276

at ikaw ay walang kakayanan,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005277

probable cause lang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005278

may kaso ka na.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005279

At dahil wala kang kakayanang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005280

kumuha ng efektib.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005281

at magaling.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005282

Masasalamat po tayo

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005283

na dyan po lagi

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005284

ang ating public attorney's office

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005285

na gumagana po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005286

sa kanilang tungkulin.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005287

Pero,

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005288

isa po na natugunan nito

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005289

yung access po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005290

to legal service.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005291

We make it

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005292

equitable

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005293

para yung ating po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005294

mga prosecutor o piskal

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005295

ay may kakayanang

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005296

mag-dismiss na.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005297

Hindi naman to

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005298

kayang ipanalo.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005299

Dinidismiss na po.

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005300

Kaya yung malalakas na kaso

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005301

lamang po

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005302

ang ating finafile ngayon

DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida

asr-005303

sa ating mga husgado.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005304

I think that's the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005305

that's the trend worldwide.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005306

Di ba?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005307

When you file the case

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005308

that's precisely a

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005309

strong case.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005310

Kaya nag na 90% conviction rate

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005311

ang 90 plus percent

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005312

conviction rate

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005313

ang Japan, for example.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005314

Dahil nga dun.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005315

In fact,

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005316

95 pa ata Singapore eh.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005317

95% conviction.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005318

So once the case is filed

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005319

it's a strong case.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005320

Therefore, the certainty

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005321

of conviction.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005322

Go ahead.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005323

Yes.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005324

Yes, sir.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005325

Sir, the

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005326

change in the quantum of evidence

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005327

was only in 2023.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005328

But as early as now

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005329

we're already seeing

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005330

the difference in the output

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005331

as far as convictions

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005332

are concerned

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005333

and as far as number of cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005334

which are filed.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005335

So yung nakikita po

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005336

nating datos dito

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005337

karamihan pa po dito

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005338

were the ones filed

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005339

under the old

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005340

regime where we were

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005341

following simply probable cause.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005342

Ang kagandahan lang nito, sir,

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005343

medyo

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005344

siyempre there are a lot of adjustments

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005345

not only on the part of the prosecution

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005346

but also on the part of law enforcement.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005347

Because one of the mandates

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005348

and one of the requirements

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005349

let's say for example

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005350

of the department circular issued

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005351

by the Secretary of Justice

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005352

yung closer coordination

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005353

collaboration between prosecutors

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005354

and law enforcers

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005355

at the very inception of the case

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005356

is one which

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005357

actually requires a certain

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005358

model of control.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005359

It's not only the

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005360

mindset or shift

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005361

dun sa mindset na

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005362

yung kung dati

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005363

ang prosecutor

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005364

naghihintay lamang

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005365

ng kaso na i-file

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005366

o dalhin sa kanila

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005367

at dati

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005368

bahala na

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005369

ang law enforcement

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005370

na gumangalap

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005371

ng ebidensya.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005372

Ngayon po

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005373

sa simula pa lang

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005374

ay naguusap

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005375

at nagtutulungan na

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005376

it comes out

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005377

that we have

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005378

a better case.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005379

But there are still

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005380

adjustments.

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005381

There's still a lot of room

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005382

for improvement

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005383

in terms of the coordination

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005384

because

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005385

it's not only

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005386

the NBI

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005387

it's not only

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005388

the NBI

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005389

or the PNP

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005390

there are other

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005391

law enforcement agencies

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005392

like the PIDEA

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005393

we have

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005394

enforcement agencies

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005395

law enforcement

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005396

from the BIR

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005397

the BOC

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005398

which have to

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005399

be brought on board

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005400

just so that they see

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005401

the importance

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005402

or the significance

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005403

of that collaboration

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005404

which will only be seen

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005405

at the end

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005406

kapag nakuha na natin

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005407

yung resulta na gusto natin

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005408

and yung sinabi ho

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005409

ni Secretary that

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005410

there are fewer cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005411

which are actually being filed

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005412

because it goes

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005413

through

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005414

a very

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005415

tedious process

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005416

of evaluation

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005417

before it goes

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005418

through PI

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005419

and

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005420

these cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005421

while few

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005422

these are the quality cases

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005423

that we can be assured of

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005424

that once we file it

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005425

in court

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005426

something na kaya po

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005427

nating

Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon

asr-005428

maipanalo.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005429

Thank you.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005430

Thank you for that.

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005431

And

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005432

I said this

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005433

judiciary budget hearing

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005434

when we were going

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005435

through the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005436

flood control

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005437

scandal

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005438

last year

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005439

no?

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005440

It's

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005441

sabi ko

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005442

it's not just the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005443

politicians

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005444

who are on trial

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005445

it's not just the

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005446

public works

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005447

employees

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005448

and officials

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005449

who are on trial

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005450

ultimately

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005451

the whole system

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005452

of justice

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005453

is on trial

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005454

kasi sabi ko

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005455

habang nasa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005456

dyaryo

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005457

lahat galit sa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005458

politiko

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005459

magdanakaw

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005460

public works

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005461

na kurap

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005462

pero

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005463

lahat yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005464

mga investigation

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005465

namin nun

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005466

it's not just

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005467

sa senate

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005468

saan mapupunta

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005469

sa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005470

sa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005471

justice system

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005472

and

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005473

unfortunately

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005474

at that time

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005475

in the middle of it all

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005476

habang

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005477

iniimbisagahan yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005478

flood control

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005479

luwabas yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005480

sandigan bayan

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005481

na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005482

convicted

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005483

yung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005484

mga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005485

involved

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005486

sa

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005487

fertilizer scam

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005488

na

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005489

naganap

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005490

nung

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005491

2004

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005492

at

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005493

na-convict

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005494

sa sandigan bayan

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005495

21 years later

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005496

lahat tayo

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005497

sa sistema

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005498

ng katarungan

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005499

bilang mga

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005500

nagtatrabaho

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005501

sino rito

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005502

taas nyo yung kamay

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005503

at sabihin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005504

okay yun ah

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005505

tama lang yun

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005506

after 21 years

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005507

may conviction

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005508

Tapos magtataka tayo bakit

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005516

tuloy-tuloy

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005517

ang pangungurakot

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005518

sa gobyerno

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005519

eh kumuha na lang tayo

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005520

ng bato

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005521

pupuk natin sa ulo natin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005522

kung hindi natin babaguhin

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005523

dahil yun din

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005524

ang magiging resulta

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005525

we shouldn't be

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005526

shocked

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005527

unfortunately

Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan

asr-005528

if we are just

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rationally

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thinking about

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what's going on

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it's the justice system

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that is also

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on trial here

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and I dread

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that what happens

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to previous cases

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of massive

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scandals

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corruption

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will happen

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to the current

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set of cases

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I dread that

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but

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you know

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moving forward

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we are not just

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prosecuting cases

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we are not just

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doing

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direct and cross examination

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we are actually all

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trying to redirect

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the course of the nation

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at this critical juncture

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in our country's history

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and so I hope

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sabi nga nila

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we are not just doing

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all these

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case build up

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diba

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We are working on a... redirecting of our country's course.

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and that's why

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we're on trial too

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even the senate

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even the house

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and the impeachment

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we're all on trial

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lahat tayo

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mahuhusgahan

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ng kasaysayan

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so ang tanong natin

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gusto ba nating

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mahusgahan

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na nagkulang

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o gusto ba nating mahusgahan

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na matapos tayong

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tinimbang

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ay sapat

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at

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maayos

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so

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we will sit down

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separately for the meeting

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we will also go through

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your request

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of

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restoration

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your wish list

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tama ba

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1 billion 26 million 795

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is that right?

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a

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centrum building

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personal compensation

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a

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buildings at

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568 million

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confidential fund

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restoration

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general administration

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a

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and so forth

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and so on

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229

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million for the

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Bucor

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276 million

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for the BI

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a

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hazard pay

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NBI

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299 million

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plus plus

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and the

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confidential funds

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additional

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Okay, we'll go through that and at least we will endeavor to endorse this and get the restoration so we can give you the support you need to do your job.

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Okay, there being no further questions subject to the submission of the documents and the information requested in our separate meeting,

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the budget of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies is deemed submitted for the consideration of plenary.

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Thank you, Secretary Vida and the DOJ family. Maraming salamat sa oras at panahon. The hearing of the subcommittee G is hereby suspended.