# Senate Committee on Finance: DOJ - September 24, 2026 Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm73fsqsclA AI-assisted working draft. AI can make errors. Always check quotations, names, rulings, and other consequential details against the official video. **[00:04:00.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000009) Ladies and gentlemen, the hearing of the Committee on Finance, Subcommittee G, is hereby called to order. Our hearing for today is the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies. We would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Ping Lacson. **[00:04:30.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000010) We now call on our committee secretary, Attorney Lina, to acknowledge and place on record our resource persons. Attorney Lina, you have the floor. **[00:04:41.700] Committee Secretary** (asr-000010-split-2) Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Senator Lacson, sir. From the DOJ family, we have the following in attendance: Secretary Frederick A. Vida; Undersecretary Raul T. Vasquez. **[00:05:00.000] Committee Secretary** (asr-000011) Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez; Undersecretary Deo L. Marco; Undersecretary Nicolas Felix L. Ty; Undersecretary Gard M. Candelaria; Prosecutor General Richard Anthony D. Fadullon; Chief State Counsel Dennis Arvin L. Chan; from the Bureau of Immigration, Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado. **[00:05:30.000] Committee Secretary** (asr-000012) From the Land Registration Authority, we have Gerardo P. Sirios, Administrator. **[00:05:35.460] Committee Secretary** (asr-000013) From the National Bureau of Investigation, Melvin A. Matiwag, the Director. **[00:05:40.620] Committee Secretary** (asr-000014) From the Office of the Government Corporate Council, Solomon M. Hermosura. **[00:05:48.540] Committee Secretary** (asr-000015) From the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution, we have Jose Maria R. Palaganas, Executive Director. **[00:05:56.180] Committee Secretary** (asr-000016) From the Parole and Probation Authority, Wilson R. Suba, Administrator. **[00:06:02.320] Committee Secretary** (asr-000019) From the Presidential Commission on Good Government, Justice Melchor Quirino C. Sadang, the Chairperson. **[00:06:10.140] Committee Secretary** (asr-000020) From the Bureau of Corrections, General Gregorio P. Catapang, Jr., Director General. **[00:06:17.200] Committee Secretary** (asr-000021) From the Department of Budget and Management, Representatives to the DOJ, Mr. Carlos M. Castro, Director. **[00:06:23.820] Committee Secretary** (asr-000022) From the COA to the DOJ, Attorney. **[00:06:30.000] Committee Secretary** (asr-000023) Gumer Guime, Cassandra Conde, and Imelda Baguiza. **[00:06:35.580] Committee Secretary** (asr-000024) That's all for now, Mr. Chair. Thank you. **[00:06:37.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000025) Thank you, Attorney Lina. We will now proceed with our opening statement. **[00:06:41.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000026) Actually, 25 years ago, it's full circle for this representation because I first defended the DOJ budget 25 years ago as Chairman then of the Committee on Justice here in the Senate. **[00:07:00.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000027) And so I'm back as Senate Committee on Justice Chairperson, and 25 years later, I will be defending your budget. **[00:07:09.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000028) 25 years ago, kami po ni Senator Ping Lacson ay sabay na halal bilang senador. In fact, I call him my mista in the Senate, batch 2001. **[00:07:23.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000029) And he's here with us also today. **[00:07:26.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000030) Ngayong araw, gusto natin sukatin ang... **[00:07:30.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000031) Proposed 2027 Budget ng DOJ at ng attached agencies nito. **[00:07:34.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000032) Sukatin natin ang 43.3 billion pesos sa tanong ng karaniwang Pilipino. **[00:07:41.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000033) Kaya ba nitong ibigay ang mabilis, abot kaya, makatao, at pantay na hustisya? **[00:07:47.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000034) Kaya bang managot ang dapat managot? **[00:07:50.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000035) Sabi nga, 43.3 billion pesos ang gagasusin natin. **[00:07:56.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000036) Habang base sa COA... **[00:08:00.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000037) Tapos, 1.3 trillion naman ang pondo ng gobernong ninanakaw taon-taon. **[00:08:08.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000038) Kaya, napakahalaga ng sistema ng katarungan sa ating bansa para matugunan ang nais ng ating mga kababayan. **[00:08:20.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000039) May dagdag na pondo para sa National Prosecution Service Bureau of Corrections. **[00:08:26.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000040) Public Attorney's Office. **[00:08:28.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000041) Makakatulong ang mga pondong ito. **[00:08:30.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000042) Para marinig ang mga biktima, mabigyan ng abogado ang mga mahihirap, at matiyak na makatao at ang pagtrato sa mga nakakulong. **[00:08:39.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000043) Pero bumaba naman ng 23% ang budget ng NBI. **[00:08:44.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000044) Kabilang ang halos 90% na bawas sa capital outlay. **[00:08:49.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000045) Okay lang ba yun? **[00:08:50.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000046) Habang lumalala at nagiging mas komplikado ang cybercrime, mga scams, human trafficking, **[00:08:57.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000047) at malalaking financial crimes. **[00:09:00.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000048) Ang batas, ang software ng bansa. **[00:09:05.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000049) Ang justice system naman, ang operating system for ang hardware. **[00:09:11.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000050) Kung kulang sa mga investigador, prosecutor, mga field office, at luma na ang forensic tools at case tracking systems, **[00:09:20.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000051) kahit gaano kaganda ang software. **[00:09:23.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000052) Kung ang operating system ay 486. **[00:09:30.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000053) Or something, yung mga panahon namin, **[00:09:33.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000054) Eh, mapuprotektahan ba ang mga maliliit na ating mga kababayan? **[00:09:37.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000055) Halimbawa, tulad ng mga magsasaka sa agriculture smuggling, **[00:09:41.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000056) o ang ating mga anak laban sa online sexual abuse and exploitation. **[00:09:47.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000057) Mabigat ang pasan ng ating DOJ. **[00:09:50.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000058) Sa 45 agriculture economic sabotage complaints, halimbawa, na na-refer sa DOJ hanggang May of this year, **[00:09:58.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000059) 35! **[00:10:00.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000060) Ang binalik para sa case build-up, 35 of 45 returned for additional case build-up. **[00:10:10.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000061) Nilalamo ng agriculture smuggling halimbawa ang kabuhayan ng mga magsasaka, **[00:10:14.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000062) mga ngingisda, at patuloy na mataas ang presyo ng pagkain at patuloy ang gutom. **[00:10:22.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000063) Pero nasaan ang mga forfeiture ng mga nagwawasak ng ating agriculture economy? **[00:10:28.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000064) Nasaan ang mga conviction? **[00:10:30.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000065) Sa pang-aabuso sa mga bata, inaasahang kumilos agad ang Estado. **[00:10:34.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000066) Pero bumaba sa halos 35.7 million pesos **[00:10:38.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000067) ang proposed allocation para sa National Coordination Center against OSAEC and CISAEM. **[00:10:46.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000068) 61% lower kaysa sa 2026 enacted level. **[00:10:52.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000069) Samantala, uulitin natin 90% ang bawas sa capital outlay ng NBI **[00:10:57.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000070) at 898 sa mga authorized positions ito na nanatiling bakante. **[00:11:04.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000071) Ang 2027 DOJ budget dapat maging kongkretong commitment na punan ang mga bakanting posisyon, **[00:11:12.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000072) bigyan ng sapat na kagamitan ang mga investigador, pagdugtong-dugtongin ang mga ahensya. **[00:11:19.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000073) Bumuoon ng mga matibay na kasong ilalatag sa korte, protektahan ng mga biktima, **[00:11:25.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000074) panagutin ang mga **[00:11:27.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000075) salarin. **[00:11:28.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000076) Secretary Vida and the rest of the team DOJ, **[00:11:32.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000077) today we invite you to present your strategic plans and your key performance targets. **[00:11:37.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000078) Iniimbitahan namin kayong tulungan-punan ang hinihingi ng ordinaryong Pilipino sa DOJ, **[00:11:44.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000079) isang sistema ng katarungan na gumagana, agad, mahusay at patas. **[00:11:49.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000080) Lalo na at pagkain, kabuhayan, kaligtasan at kinabukasan **[00:11:57.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000081) Ng mga anak natin ang nakataya. We look forward to a productive and candid discussion. Paano ma-o-optimize itong proposed allocation? Paano pa maidadagdag at saan natin kukunin ang idadagdag para magampanan ang mga mandato ng may pinakamataas na antas ng pananagutan, accountability, at transparency? **[00:12:19.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000082) We now ask Senator Lacson for his opening statement. You have the floor, sir. **[00:12:24.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000083) None from this representation, Mr. Chairman. **[00:12:28.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000084) With that, we can now proceed. Secretary Vida, you have the floor for your opening statement and your presentation. Go ahead, sir. **[00:12:40.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000085) Magandang umaga po at maraming salamat po sa pagkakataon. Ako po ang inyong Secretary of Justice, Frederick A. Vida. **[00:12:48.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000086) Kasama ko po ang iba't-ibang opisyalis at lingkodbayan mula sa pamilya ng Department of Justice. **[00:12:56.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000087) At para po sa batid na kaalaman ng lahat, ang sampu po na attached agencies ng Department of Justice ay unang-una, **[00:13:07.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000088) ang Office of the Solicitor General, ang ating pong Bureau of Corrections, ang Bureau of Immigration, ang Land Registration Authority, **[00:13:16.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000089) ang National Bureau of Investigations. **[00:13:18.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000090) Ang Office of the Government Corporate Council, ang Parole and Probation Administration, ang ating pong PCGG, Presidential Commission on Good Government, **[00:13:31.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000091) and ang ating pong Public Attorney's Office, at syempre po kasama rin po natin ng Office of the Alternative Dispute Resolutions. **[00:13:40.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000092) Salamat po, ginagalang at minamahal na aming Senador, Senator Francis Pangilinan, and Senator Ping Lacson. **[00:13:47.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000093) Salamat po sa pagkakataon para amin pong maihain at maidulog ang proposed budget ng DOJ for 2027. **[00:14:00.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000094) Ito po, para pong sa bilang ay malaki, 46 billion, ito po ay 0.64% lamang ng kabuang budget para sa susunod na taon ng national government. **[00:14:13.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000095) At kasama ko po ang iba't-ibang undersecretary. **[00:14:17.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000096) Assistant Secretary, kami po ay handa na tugunan lahat ng inyong katanungan at paglilinaw. **[00:14:25.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000097) At maraming salamat po sa pagkakataon. **[00:14:27.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000098) Sa pagpapatuloy po ng aming pong paghain, ng aming proposed budget, **[00:14:32.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000099) Nandito po ang aming kasama, si Undersecretary Anika Gran-Ong, para ho ipagpatuloy ang aming presentasyon. **[00:14:38.440] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000100) Maraming salamat po. **[00:14:41.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000101) Go ahead, Yusek, you have the floor. **[00:14:44.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000102) Annika ba yan? Annika? **[00:14:46.060] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000103) Yes, sir. **[00:14:47.900] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000104) Good morning. **[00:14:49.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000105) Kilala yung Annika dito sa impeachment trial, kaya very familiar kami sa Annika. **[00:14:53.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000106) Go ahead, Annika, please don't ring the bell. **[00:14:57.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000107) You have more than two minutes. **[00:14:59.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000108) Okay. **[00:15:00.000] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000109) Thank you very much, Honorable Chairperson. **[00:15:04.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000110) The Department's overarching framework is defined by its core mandate to uphold the rule of law and serve the government's principal law agency. **[00:15:15.080] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000111) In pursuit of its vision to foster a just and peaceful society rooted in transparency, accountability, fairness, and truth, **[00:15:23.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000112) the Department executes its mission by delivering an effective, efficient, and equitable administration of justice nationwide. **[00:15:32.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000113) The Department administers the criminal justice system through the investigation of crimes, the prosecution of offenders, and the administration of the correctional system. **[00:15:43.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000114) Beyond criminal justice, the Department also maintains oversight over immigration, citizenship, and land titling system. **[00:15:51.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000115) Above all, **[00:15:53.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000116) The Department guarantees social justice by extending free legal assistance to our most vulnerable and indigent citizens. **[00:16:01.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000117) In the next few slides, we will highlight some of the key operational accomplishments of the Department. **[00:16:07.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000118) The Department of Justice, through the National Prosecution Service, consistently demonstrated enhanced prosecutorial output and case management efficiency over the past five years. **[00:16:19.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000119) More significantly in 2025, **[00:16:22.980] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000120) NPS **[00:16:23.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000122) handled a heavy total caseload of 428,779 cases. **[00:16:31.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000123) By year-end, **[00:16:32.760] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000124) 395,780 of these were disposed and resolved, **[00:16:38.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000125) resulting in 99.12% of cases resolved within the prescribed 120 days, **[00:16:44.860] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000126) improving upon the 99.08% accomplishment recorded in 2024. **[00:16:50.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000127) The resolved cases include all those complaints, **[00:16:53.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000128) under preliminary investigation, inquest, and motion for reconsideration. **[00:16:59.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000129) Turning to court dispositions, the Department has consistently sustained high prosecution success rates over the past five years. **[00:17:07.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000130) As shown in this slide, the Department poses upward trajectory in terms of PSR. **[00:17:13.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000131) The PSR rose to 90.84% in 2025 from 90.14% in 2024. **[00:17:23.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000132) This performance reflects concrete results of the Department's institutional reforms, **[00:17:28.800] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000133) especially in strengthening pre-trial case buildup, tightening evidence standards, and adopting a proactive role in criminal investigation. **[00:17:39.020] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000134) Moving on to our overall agency performance, **[00:17:42.940] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000135) the succeeding slides show our agency physical performance for calendar year 2025 and for the first semester of calendar year 2025. **[00:17:53.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000137) Under our prosecution sub-program, we maintained high operational output. **[00:17:59.540] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000138) The National Prosecution Service attained a PSR of 90.84% in 2025, **[00:18:06.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000139) which is further improved to 91.38% in the first semester of 2026. **[00:18:12.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000140) Further, case disposition rate remained high at 99.12% in 2025. **[00:18:18.580] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000141) As of the first semester, case disposition rate has reached 97.96%. **[00:18:23.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000142) The PSR has reached 94.94%, which is expected to increase further by year end. **[00:18:28.920] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000143) For our Witness Protection sub-program, we achieved a 100% success rate across all three key indicators in the first semester of 2026. **[00:18:39.640] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000144) Further, through our Special Enforcement and Protection Units, **[00:18:43.620] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000145) we have attained 95.18% successful prosecution on monitored cases in 2025. **[00:18:50.080] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000146) As of first semester of this year, **[00:18:53.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000147) responsible units have already attained **[00:18:55.580] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000148) 94.23%, **[00:18:57.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000149) which is anticipated to trend **[00:18:59.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000150) upward by year-end. The special **[00:19:01.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000151) enforcement cluster reported an **[00:19:03.640] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000152) improved investigation completion rate **[00:19:05.780] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000153) of 95.76% **[00:19:08.000] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000154) as of first semester of this **[00:19:09.760] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000155) year, a slight increase from **[00:19:11.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000156) 95.34% in **[00:19:13.400] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000157) 2025. Under our **[00:19:15.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000158) corrections sub-program, the agency **[00:19:17.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000159) has issued 100% of **[00:19:19.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000160) parole and executive **[00:19:21.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000161) clemency resolutions in **[00:19:23.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000162) 2025 and in the first half of **[00:19:25.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000163) 2026. Similarly, **[00:19:27.900] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000164) all applications and requests **[00:19:29.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000165) for victim compensation claims **[00:19:31.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000166) in 2025 and the first half **[00:19:33.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000167) of this year were acted upon **[00:19:35.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000168) during the period. The legal **[00:19:37.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000169) services program recorded an improved **[00:19:39.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000170) efficiency rate attaining 99.12% **[00:19:42.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000171) of legal service **[00:19:43.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000172) requests acted upon **[00:19:45.340] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000173) in the first sem of 2026, **[00:19:47.820] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000174) an increase from 99.05% **[00:19:50.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000175) in 2025. **[00:19:52.540] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000176) Relative to **[00:19:53.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000177) our law enforcement services, **[00:19:55.580] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000178) the National Bureau of Investigation **[00:19:57.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000179) conducted and acted upon **[00:19:59.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000180) 32,419 **[00:20:02.020] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000181) investigations **[00:20:03.040] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000182) in the first sem of 2026, **[00:20:06.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000183) tracking steadily against **[00:20:07.540] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000184) the full year total of **[00:20:08.800] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000185) 56,212 in **[00:20:11.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000186) 2025. **[00:20:13.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000187) For clearance applications, **[00:20:15.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000188) the NBI was able to process **[00:20:17.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000189) 99.28% of requests **[00:20:19.580] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000190) within the prescribed **[00:20:21.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000191) time of 10 minutes in 2025. **[00:20:23.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000192) This year, as of the **[00:20:25.340] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000193) first semester, the Bureau has already **[00:20:27.100] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000194) reached an efficiency rate of **[00:20:29.000] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000195) 98.79% **[00:20:30.960] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000196) and may surpass previous year's **[00:20:33.220] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000197) performance by year-end. **[00:20:35.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000198) On the other hand, the Bureau of Immigration **[00:20:37.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000199) cleared 99.99% **[00:20:39.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000200) of foreign arrival and departures **[00:20:41.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000201) in 2025, which **[00:20:43.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000202) is sustained as of the first sem of this year. **[00:20:45.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000203) For the first half of this year, **[00:20:47.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000204) the BI also achieved **[00:20:48.560] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000205) 96.02% of intelligence **[00:20:51.340] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000206) case disposition within 60 days, **[00:20:53.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000207) this has already exceeded **[00:20:55.060] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000208) its annual target of **[00:20:56.780] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000209) 95.91% by **[00:20:58.980] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000210) 0.51%. **[00:21:00.560] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000211) The BI commits to sustain this performance **[00:21:03.180] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000212) by year-end. In terms of **[00:21:05.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000213) corrections administration, **[00:21:07.560] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000214) the average daily number of **[00:21:09.180] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000215) PBLs managed and safe-kept **[00:21:10.960] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000216) by the Bureau of Corrections stood **[00:21:13.220] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000217) at 52,708 **[00:21:15.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000218) in the first sem of this year, **[00:21:17.180] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000219) down from 53,972 **[00:21:20.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000220) in 2025. **[00:21:21.560] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000221) This indicates steady **[00:21:23.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000222) progress in prison congestion, **[00:21:26.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000223) PDL engagement **[00:21:27.100] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000224) in reformation or rehabilitation **[00:21:28.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000225) programs rose to 98.60% **[00:21:32.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000226) in the first sem of this **[00:21:33.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000227) year from 97.97% **[00:21:35.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000228) last year. **[00:21:37.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000229) Moreover, client compliance with **[00:21:39.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000230) probation and parole conditions increased **[00:21:41.180] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000231) to 99.46% **[00:21:43.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000232) in the first half this year, compared **[00:21:45.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000233) to 98.96% **[00:21:47.540] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000234) last year. **[00:21:48.940] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000235) Additionally, participation of **[00:21:50.920] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000236) probationers and parolees in **[00:21:52.940] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000237) community-based rehabilitation programs **[00:21:55.020] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000238) of the PPA reached **[00:21:56.660] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000239) 98.69% **[00:21:58.620] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000240) in 2025 and **[00:22:00.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000241) 98.75% in the first **[00:22:03.020] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000242) sem this year. **[00:22:04.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000243) The performance metrics **[00:22:06.660] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000244) on this slide shows operational efficiency **[00:22:09.020] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000245) and high client satisfaction **[00:22:10.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000246) in the provision of legal services. **[00:22:13.660] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000247) The Public Attorney's **[00:22:15.040] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000248) Office sustained high disposition **[00:22:16.760] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000249) rates of cases with favorable **[00:22:18.920] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000250) judgments both in 2025 **[00:22:21.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000251) and 2026. **[00:22:22.940] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000252) At the same time, PAO was able to **[00:22:24.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000253) achieve high success rates **[00:22:26.340] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000254) on alternative dispute resolution **[00:22:28.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000255) for 2025 at **[00:22:30.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000256) 91.43%. **[00:22:32.800] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000257) The Office of the Solicitor **[00:22:34.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000258) General acted on 98.3% **[00:22:37.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000259) of the cases it handled **[00:22:38.640] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000260) in 2025, which **[00:22:40.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000261) increased to 98.6% **[00:22:42.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000262) this year. Across the **[00:22:44.540] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000263) assessment periods, the agency was able **[00:22:46.720] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000264) to act on 100% **[00:22:48.720] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000265) of petitions for naturalization. **[00:22:51.800] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000266) The high performance **[00:22:52.780] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000267) results led to excellent satisfaction **[00:22:54.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000268) ratings from their client agencies. **[00:22:57.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000269) Similarly, **[00:22:58.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000270) from 2025 up to 2026, **[00:23:00.920] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000271) the Office of the Government Corporate **[00:23:02.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000272) Council was able to file 100% **[00:23:04.760] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000273) of its pleadings within **[00:23:06.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000274) the prescribed period. Meanwhile, **[00:23:08.760] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000275) as of the first sem this year, 88% **[00:23:10.660] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000276) of contracts were reviewed and **[00:23:12.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000277) legal opinions were rendered by the OGCC **[00:23:14.840] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000278) within the prescribed period, **[00:23:16.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000279) a significant increase of **[00:23:18.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000280) 8% from its accomplishment rate **[00:23:20.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000281) last year. In the case **[00:23:22.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000282) of the Land Registration Authority, **[00:23:25.060] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000283) the agency has surpassed **[00:23:26.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000284) its accomplishments in 2025 **[00:23:28.640] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000285) with 93.94% **[00:23:30.760] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000286) titles issued and 95.67% **[00:23:33.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000287) of these annotated **[00:23:34.900] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000288) within 20 days from receipt of **[00:23:36.680] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000289) complete documents. Meanwhile, **[00:23:39.080] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000290) the Presidential Commission **[00:23:40.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000291) on Good Government, or PCGG, **[00:23:42.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000292) reported around **[00:23:43.720] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000293) 1.57 billion of recovered **[00:23:46.860] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000294) amount and proceeds **[00:23:48.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000295) from the administration of fully taken **[00:23:50.660] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000296) over sequestered assets in **[00:23:52.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000297) 2025. The Commission **[00:23:54.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000298) is expected to remit the same amount **[00:23:56.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000299) to the Treasury by the end of this year. **[00:23:59.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000300) Lastly, the Office of **[00:24:00.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000301) Alternative Dispute Resolution **[00:24:02.340] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000302) continuously advances the use **[00:24:04.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000303) of ADR mechanisms, **[00:24:06.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000304) having trained 3,392 **[00:24:09.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000305) practitioners and implementers **[00:24:11.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000306) last year. It has **[00:24:12.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000307) also acted upon all applications **[00:24:14.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000308) for accreditation and approval of **[00:24:16.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000309) ADR training programs for **[00:24:18.620] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000310) 2025 and 2026. **[00:24:21.400] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000311) Overall, **[00:24:22.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000312) The whole department remains steadfast **[00:24:24.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000313) and optimistic in sustaining, **[00:24:26.220] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000314) if not surpassing, its high-performance **[00:24:28.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000315) results. **[00:24:30.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000316) The total proposed budget of the DOJ, **[00:24:32.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000317) including its attached **[00:24:33.840] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000318) constituent agencies for **[00:24:36.180] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000319) 2027, amounts to **[00:24:38.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000320) 46.435 billion **[00:24:40.760] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000321) as compared to **[00:24:42.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000322) the **[00:24:44.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000323) 2026 **[00:24:46.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000324) approved budget of **[00:24:47.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000325) 45.525 billion. **[00:24:50.080] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000326) As you may note, the DOJ **[00:24:52.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000327) budget for 2027 **[00:24:54.640] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000328) is retained at 0.64% **[00:24:57.220] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000329) or less than 1% **[00:24:58.560] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000330) of the published total NEP budget **[00:25:00.860] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000331) of 7.2 trillion. **[00:25:03.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000332) Overall, for the **[00:25:04.940] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000333) 2027 NEP-based **[00:25:06.780] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000334) budget, 68.32% **[00:25:09.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000335) is for personal services, **[00:25:11.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000336) including salaries and other **[00:25:12.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000337) compensation of employees. **[00:25:15.400] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000338) Only 24.42% **[00:25:17.800] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000339) is programmed for **[00:25:18.840] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000340) maintenance and other operating expenses, **[00:25:21.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000341) while **[00:25:22.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000342) 7.26% **[00:25:23.560] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000343) accounts for the capital outlay **[00:25:25.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000344) of select agencies of the department. **[00:25:28.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000345) The slight increase in **[00:25:29.720] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000346) overall NEP budget of the DOJ **[00:25:31.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000347) is attributed mainly to the **[00:25:33.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000348) increased funding requirement **[00:25:35.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000349) for personal salaries and other **[00:25:37.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000350) compensation. For FY **[00:25:39.820] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000351) 2027, the **[00:25:41.720] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000352) department-wide budget proposal **[00:25:43.640] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000353) amounts to **[00:25:45.780] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000354) 121.63 **[00:25:47.860] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000355) billion, but the total **[00:25:49.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000356) budget recommended in the **[00:25:51.400] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000357) 2027 **[00:25:52.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000358) National Expenditure Program **[00:25:54.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000359) is only 46.435 **[00:25:56.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000360) billion, or only **[00:25:58.000] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000361) 38.18% of the **[00:26:00.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000362) submitted proposed budget. **[00:26:02.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000363) This slide shows our **[00:26:04.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000364) comparative budget for 2026 **[00:26:06.640] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000365) and 2027 by **[00:26:08.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000366) allotment class in millions of pesos. **[00:26:11.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000367) Details of these figures **[00:26:12.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000368) will be shown later. **[00:26:14.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000369) With the permission of the honorable members **[00:26:16.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000370) of the committee, please allow me to present **[00:26:18.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000371) the DOJ OSEC budget in the **[00:26:20.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000372) next several slides. **[00:26:22.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000373) Before you proceed, we would like **[00:26:24.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000374) to acknowledge the presence of **[00:26:26.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000375) our chairperson of the Committee on Finance, **[00:26:28.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000376) Senator JV **[00:26:29.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000377) Ejercito. Thank you, Senator **[00:26:32.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000378) JV. Please proceed. Go ahead. **[00:26:35.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000379) Thank you. **[00:26:36.920] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000380) Next slide. **[00:26:38.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000381) For 2027, **[00:26:40.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000382) the Office of the Secretary **[00:26:42.220] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000383) is provided with a total budget **[00:26:44.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000384) of 13.930 **[00:26:46.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000385) billion, wherein **[00:26:47.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000386) 70.67% is for **[00:26:50.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000387) PS, 12.46% **[00:26:52.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000388) for MOOE, and **[00:26:54.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000389) 16.86% for **[00:26:56.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000390) capital outlay. For our **[00:26:58.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000391) law enforcement program, the budget **[00:27:00.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000392) for the National Prosecution Service **[00:27:02.220] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000393) increased by 7.64%. **[00:27:04.780] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000394) On the contrary, **[00:27:06.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000395) with substantial reduction in the **[00:27:08.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000396) budgets of anti-trafficking in persons, **[00:27:10.920] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000397) anti-cybercrime, and **[00:27:12.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000398) OSA-XISAEP, the budget for **[00:27:14.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000399) special enforcement and protection program **[00:27:16.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000400) is reduced by almost half in **[00:27:18.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000401) 2027 at **[00:27:19.660] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000402) 204 million compared to the current **[00:27:22.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000403) appropriations of 402 million. **[00:27:24.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000404) For 2027, **[00:27:26.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000405) the target disposition rate of criminal **[00:27:28.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000406) complaints handled by the **[00:27:29.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000407) NPS is set at 97%. **[00:27:33.060] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000408) The Department, through the **[00:27:34.540] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000409) Witness Protection Program, aims **[00:27:36.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000410) to act on all applications for **[00:27:38.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000411) witness coverage, and that **[00:27:40.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000412) 95.34% **[00:27:42.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000413) of investigations undertaken by **[00:27:44.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000414) special enforcement units **[00:27:45.980] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000415) must be completed. **[00:27:48.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000416) The total recommended appropriations **[00:27:50.820] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000417) for our corrections program, **[00:27:52.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000418) in 2027, is reduced **[00:27:54.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000419) by 21.05%. **[00:27:56.840] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000420) Compared to our current **[00:27:58.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000421) year's approved funding, the recommended **[00:28:00.480] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000422) budget for our pardons and parole services **[00:28:02.720] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000423) is slightly reduced **[00:28:04.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000424) by 2.63% at **[00:28:06.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000425) 37 million. On the **[00:28:08.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000426) other hand, the recommended budget **[00:28:10.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000427) for Victims' Compensation Service is **[00:28:12.340] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000428) cut by more than half for **[00:28:14.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000429) 19 million in 2026 **[00:28:16.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000430) to 8 million in 2027. **[00:28:18.900] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000431) With significantly reduced **[00:28:20.520] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000432) budgets for next year, **[00:28:22.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000433) the Board of Pardons and Parole will **[00:28:24.060] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000434) ensure that 99.72% **[00:28:26.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000435) of the applications for parole and **[00:28:28.040] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000436) executive clemency are acted upon **[00:28:30.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000437) and that 100% of board **[00:28:32.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000438) resolutions on the grant of parole **[00:28:34.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000439) and executive clemency are **[00:28:36.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000440) issued within the prescribed period. **[00:28:39.100] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000441) For 2027, **[00:28:41.040] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000442) the legal staff shall **[00:28:42.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000443) ensure that 97.01% **[00:28:44.400] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000444) of requests for legal services **[00:28:46.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000445) are acted upon within the **[00:28:48.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000446) working budget of 205 million, **[00:28:50.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000447) which is 4.59%. **[00:28:52.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000448) higher than the 2026 **[00:28:54.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000449) budget. For our **[00:28:56.080] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000450) attached and constituent agencies, **[00:28:58.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000451) we start with the Bureau of Corrections. **[00:29:00.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000452) Their 2027 recommended **[00:29:02.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000453) budget amounts to 11.93 **[00:29:04.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000454) billion, which is 9.66% **[00:29:07.100] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000455) higher than the **[00:29:07.980] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000456) 10.88 billion appropriations in the **[00:29:10.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000457) current year. On average, **[00:29:12.300] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000458) the BUCOR is committed to maintain and **[00:29:14.040] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000459) safeguard around 56,454 **[00:29:17.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000460) PDLs daily **[00:29:18.320] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000461) and to ensure that **[00:29:19.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000462) 98.13% of PDLs **[00:29:22.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000463) participate in their rehabilitation **[00:29:24.160] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000464) programs. For the **[00:29:26.220] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000465) Bureau of Immigration, their 2027 **[00:29:28.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000466) recommended budget is **[00:29:29.780] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000467) 2.98 billion, which is **[00:29:32.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000468) 35.8% **[00:29:34.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000469) lower than the 2026 **[00:29:36.620] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000470) budget. Given **[00:29:38.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000471) this budget for **[00:29:39.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000472) 2027, the BI is set to clear **[00:29:42.080] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000473) the arrival or departure of **[00:29:43.660] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000474) 99.99% foreign passengers. **[00:29:47.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000475) Further, the **[00:29:48.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000476) Bureau needs to dispose within 60 days **[00:29:50.400] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000477) 95.91% **[00:29:52.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000478) of intelligence cases. **[00:29:54.120] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000479) For the Land Registration Authority, **[00:29:56.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000480) the 2027 recommended **[00:29:58.000] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000481) budget amounts to 3.28 **[00:30:00.020] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000482) billion. **[00:30:00.550] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000483) which is 13.7% higher than the 2.88 billion budget in 2026. **[00:30:07.720] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000484) Given this budget, the LRA will be able to provide land registration services, **[00:30:13.260] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000485) particularly the agency shall ensure that at least 93.62% of titles will be issued **[00:30:19.900] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000486) and 95.64% of these are annotated within 20 days after the submission of completed documents. **[00:30:26.980] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000487) For the National Bureau of Investigation, their 2027 recommended budget is 22.34% lower at 3.03 billion from 3.9 billion in 2026. **[00:30:43.640] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000488) For the said 2027 budget, the NBI should be able to process more than 6.6 million clearances **[00:30:50.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000489) of which at least 98% should be issued within 10 minutes from receipt of request. **[00:30:56.380] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000490) The NBI committed to act upon and conduct at least 50,000 investigations next year. **[00:31:03.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000491) For the Office of the Government Corporate Council, the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 310 million **[00:31:11.180] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000492) which is 2.21% lower than the 316 million budget in 2026. **[00:31:18.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000493) For the next year, the OGCC shall ensure that 100% of all court pleadings will be filed within the prescribed period **[00:31:25.440] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000494) and that 82% of all contracts will be reviewed and legal opinions will be rendered within the prescribed period. **[00:31:31.500] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000495) For the Office of the Solicitor General, the 2027 recommended budget is increased to 2.14 billion from 1.9 billion in 2026 **[00:31:41.340] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000496) with a positive variance of 13.15% in their budget. **[00:31:46.040] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000497) The OSG aims to act upon at least 98% of referred cases in 2027 **[00:31:51.020] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000498) out of which 99% are acted upon within 30 days. **[00:31:55.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000499) For resolution of petitions for naturalization, the agency intends to resolve 100% by the end of the year. **[00:32:02.540] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000500) For the PPA, the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 1.25 billion **[00:32:08.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000501) which is about 3.61% lower than the 1.3 billion approved budget in 2026. **[00:32:16.100] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000502) With their 2027 NEP-based budget, the PPA will ensure 98.96% of their clients **[00:32:23.080] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000503) will be compliant with the terms of the PPA. **[00:32:25.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000504) For the PCGG, the recommended budget under the 2027 NEP amounts to 339 million **[00:32:41.660] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000505) which is 9.35% higher than their current year appropriations of 310 million. **[00:32:47.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000506) For 2027, the PCGG targets at least 846 million of surrendered or sequestered **[00:32:55.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000507) assets to be submitted to the Bureau of Treasury. **[00:32:58.560] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000508) For the Public Attorney's Office, their 2027 recommended budget amounts to 7.101 billion **[00:33:04.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000509) which is 6.10% higher than their 6.693 billion budget for 2026. **[00:33:12.040] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000510) With this recommended budget, the PAO will be able to achieve 83.05% favorable judgments **[00:33:17.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000511) for its disposed cases including appeals in 2027. **[00:33:22.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000512) Said office will also ensure that all requests for non-judicial, **[00:33:25.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000513) services in 2027 will be acted upon within two hours. **[00:33:29.960] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000514) Lastly, for the Office of the Alternative Dispute Resolution, **[00:33:34.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000515) the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 139 million **[00:33:37.800] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000516) which is 16.27% lower than their current year's appropriation. **[00:33:43.840] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000517) Despite the reduced funding, the OADR will ensure that 1,880 ADR practitioners **[00:33:50.080] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000518) and implementers will be trained and 100% of applications for accreditation **[00:33:55.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000519) will be acted upon in 2027. **[00:33:58.420] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000520) This concludes our presentation of the 2027 Department-wide Budget. **[00:34:03.460] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000521) At this point, we are ready to address any questions, comments, **[00:34:06.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000522) or requests for clarifications from the members of this committee. **[00:34:10.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000523) Thank you, Yusek Ong. **[00:34:12.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000524) Just housekeeping, each senator will be given for the first round 10 minutes **[00:34:18.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000525) and then we can proceed from there. **[00:34:22.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000526) And by order of arrival, **[00:34:23.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000527) Senator, **[00:34:25.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000528) Ping Lakson has the floor. **[00:34:27.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000529) Go ahead, Senator Ping, you have 10 minutes. **[00:34:29.800] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000530) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. **[00:34:31.000] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000531) Before I proceed to my particular point of interest **[00:34:34.340] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000532) in today's budget hearing or briefing, **[00:34:37.460] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000533) let me just seek clarification on the disposition of cases, **[00:34:43.100] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000534) yung disposition rate. **[00:34:44.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000535) Apparently, there's a mathematical error. **[00:34:47.600] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000536) Kasi when we computed, **[00:34:48.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000537) ang data nyo rito is 428,779 cases, **[00:34:55.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000538) this was in 2025. **[00:34:58.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000539) Ang na-dispose or resolved **[00:35:03.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000540) And you computed it at 99.12%. **[00:35:07.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000541) When we computed, nasa 92.3% lang. **[00:35:12.340] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000542) Baka naman mali yung aming computation. **[00:35:15.700] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000543) Pakiclarify lang nga. **[00:35:17.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000544) Malaki yung discrepancy kasi between 99.12 and 92.3, **[00:35:23.160] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000545) medyo malaki po. **[00:35:24.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000546) At kung kailangan, **[00:35:25.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000547) rectify, rectify lang natin. **[00:35:26.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000548) Kung ako naman ang mali, **[00:35:28.800] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000549) paki-explain lang. **[00:35:41.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000550) Maraming salamat, Sen. **[00:35:43.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000551) 428,000, yun yung universe natin. **[00:35:47.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000552) 395,780 resolved as of December 31. **[00:35:52.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000553) Pero dagdag pa ho doon, **[00:35:53.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000554) meron nung pending, **[00:35:55.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000555) may cases pa na, **[00:35:56.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000556) of course, the balance. **[00:35:58.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000557) Pero yung 32,000, **[00:36:00.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000558) yung 29,000 na pending out of the 32,000, **[00:36:04.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000559) is still within the 120 days. **[00:36:07.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000560) We have 120 days to resolve yung preliminary investigation. **[00:36:13.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000561) So we do not consider that as late. **[00:36:15.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000562) Kasi halimbawa, **[00:36:16.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000563) nag-file lang ng December 1, **[00:36:19.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000564) compute 30, 30, **[00:36:21.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000565) so March 31 pa yun. **[00:36:22.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000566) So out of the 32,000, **[00:36:25.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000567) yung 29,000 is still within the period. **[00:36:28.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000568) Kaya po, we computed it as 99.12% pa. **[00:36:35.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000569) Ni-less po namin. **[00:36:36.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000570) Maraming salamat sa clarification **[00:36:37.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000571) kasi hindi naman napasama sa presentation. **[00:36:39.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000572) We will make the proper notation **[00:36:43.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000573) so that it can be easily understood. **[00:36:45.820] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000574) Kala ko, hindi marunong mag-math si Dong Padulyon eh. **[00:36:51.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000575) Kaya nag-law school na lang. **[00:36:53.020] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000576) ... **[00:36:55.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000577) Ang second question, **[00:36:56.600] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000578) doon sa same presentation, **[00:36:57.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000579) 90.84%, **[00:36:59.600] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000580) ito yung prosecution success rate. **[00:37:02.840] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000581) Define ito ng convictions versus acquittals. **[00:37:07.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000582) Pero yung performance chain, **[00:37:09.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000583) gusto na namin makita yung further details. **[00:37:11.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000584) Yung share of all complaints received, **[00:37:14.860] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000585) yung nakarating sa filing, **[00:37:16.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000586) trial, **[00:37:18.060] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000587) final conviction. **[00:37:19.800] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000588) So, meron ba kayo dyang data? **[00:37:21.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000589) Kung wala naman, **[00:37:22.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000590) pwede namang isubmit later. **[00:37:23.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000591) Pero kung meron kayong, **[00:37:25.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000592) complete performance, **[00:37:27.020] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000593) yung data sa performance chain, **[00:37:29.820] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000594) yung **[00:37:30.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000595) as to the complaints received, **[00:37:33.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000596) dismissed, filed, withdrawn, **[00:37:34.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000597) plea bargain, **[00:37:35.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000598) convicted, acquitted, **[00:37:36.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000599) archived, **[00:37:37.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000600) appealed, **[00:37:38.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000601) and finally resolved. **[00:37:40.060] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000602) Kung meron lang, **[00:37:40.760] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000603) kung wala naman, **[00:37:41.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000604) we're willing to wait. **[00:37:42.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000605) Yes, Mr. Senator. **[00:37:44.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000606) We will submit the corresponding **[00:37:45.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000607) disaggregated para mas, **[00:37:47.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000608) with the proper filters. **[00:37:49.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000609) Thank you. **[00:37:50.580] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000610) Now, I'll proceed to the, **[00:37:52.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000611) yung automatic appropriations. **[00:37:54.200] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000612) Particularly, **[00:37:55.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000613) doon sa special accounts. **[00:37:57.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000614) Gusto ko lang malaman yung **[00:37:59.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000615) how much **[00:38:01.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000616) income was generated **[00:38:04.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000617) against those earmarked **[00:38:08.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000618) to the different agencies **[00:38:09.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000619) under automatic appropriations **[00:38:13.500] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000620) or under special accounts. **[00:38:16.460] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000621) Kasi may mga income generating **[00:38:18.700] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000622) agencies kayo, di ba? **[00:38:20.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000623) Like, **[00:38:21.220] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000624) ang malaki rito, **[00:38:22.160] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000625) LRA, **[00:38:23.100] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000626) Bureau of Immigration. **[00:38:24.500] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000627) Ito yung mga trust receipts. **[00:38:25.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000628) And, naturally, **[00:38:28.020] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000629) lahat ito, **[00:38:29.400] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000630) binabalik natin sa treasury, **[00:38:31.980] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000631) di ba? **[00:38:32.180] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000632) Sinasabit. **[00:38:33.100] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000633) And then, **[00:38:33.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000634) we are required to just request. **[00:38:36.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000635) Ang gusto ko lang malaman, **[00:38:37.580] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000636) yung ratio, **[00:38:39.200] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000637) how much was earned **[00:38:40.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000638) by the different agencies **[00:38:42.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000639) paki-breakdown **[00:38:43.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000640) as against those **[00:38:44.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000641) appropriated under special accounts. **[00:38:49.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000642) Dito namin kayo pwedeng tulungan. **[00:38:51.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000643) Kaya, I'm asking for details. **[00:38:55.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000644) By the way, **[00:38:58.540] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000645) ano-ano mga agencies pa yung merong **[00:38:59.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000646) income generation? **[00:39:02.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000647) Income generating activities? **[00:39:03.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000648) NBI. **[00:39:07.180] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000649) Sir, **[00:39:08.180] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000650) the agencies that **[00:39:09.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000651) have special accounts are **[00:39:11.960] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000652) NBI, **[00:39:12.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000653) BI, **[00:39:14.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000654) LRA, **[00:39:14.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000655) DOJ, sir. **[00:39:19.140] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000656) The OSEC proper. **[00:39:21.160] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000657) PCGG ba meron? **[00:39:22.200] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000658) PCGG. **[00:39:25.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000659) PCGG as well. **[00:39:28.060] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000660) Saan nasa source yung **[00:39:30.100] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000661) sa DOJ proper? **[00:39:33.000] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000662) Income generation? **[00:39:37.980] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000663) Ah, okay. **[00:39:42.980] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000664) The sources of income **[00:39:44.960] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000665) from the office of the secretary **[00:39:46.600] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000666) comes from legal fees, **[00:39:48.740] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000667) other service income, **[00:39:50.040] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000668) and miscellaneous income. **[00:39:53.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000669) Yung universe muna. **[00:39:54.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000670) Magkano yung **[00:39:55.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000671) total na **[00:39:56.220] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000672) na generate na income **[00:39:58.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000673) ng buong department? **[00:40:02.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000674) Including all agencies **[00:40:04.020] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000675) that generate income. **[00:40:17.540] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000676) For 2025, **[00:40:19.880] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000677) for the whole agency, **[00:40:21.280] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000678) the DOJ family, **[00:40:23.240] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000679) it's 18 billion, **[00:40:24.920] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000680) and 715,924,000. **[00:40:31.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000681) 715,924,000. **[00:40:34.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000682) Ang ibinalik sa inyo, **[00:40:36.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000683) magkano? **[00:40:37.300] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000684) Buong agency again? **[00:40:38.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000685) Magkano daw, **[00:40:38.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000686) binalik? **[00:40:53.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000691) Lahat ito, **[00:40:54.520] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000692) under special accounts, **[00:40:55.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000693) ano, **[00:40:56.100] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000694) pinasok? **[00:40:57.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000695) Under the proposed, **[00:40:59.700] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000696) under the NEP, **[00:41:00.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000697) under automatic appropriations. **[00:41:03.700] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000698) Sir, **[00:41:04.360] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000699) Asec **[00:41:06.000] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000700) or Asec [unclear] **[00:41:07.340] DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong** (asr-000701) can answer? **[00:41:13.000] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000702) Sir, no, **[00:41:13.800] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000703) may certain agency lang po **[00:41:15.240] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000704) na merong special account **[00:41:16.640] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000705) in the general fund, **[00:41:18.160] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000706) like LRA. **[00:41:20.760] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000707) I think also, **[00:41:22.200] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000708) Total muna. **[00:41:23.080] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000709) Ay, sir. **[00:41:23.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000710) Kasi meron kayong **[00:41:25.320] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000711) ibinigay sa treasurer **[00:41:28.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000712) na 18 billion plus. **[00:41:29.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000713) Gusto ko malaman, **[00:41:30.460] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000714) magkano yung naibalik sa inyo. **[00:41:32.600] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000715) Sir, sandali ah. **[00:41:37.520] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000716) I just would like to find out **[00:41:39.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000717) how much **[00:41:40.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000718) you are being shortchanged. **[00:41:42.180] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000719) Ah, yes, sir. **[00:41:44.500] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000720) Sir, I do not have the **[00:41:46.280] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000721) entire ano, **[00:41:47.280] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000722) but yung per agency, **[00:41:50.060] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000723) meron po yung sa **[00:41:51.460] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000724) special account, **[00:41:52.740] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000725) like for the last, **[00:41:53.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000726) for the Land Registration **[00:41:55.700] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000727) ang special account nila **[00:41:57.640] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000728) for, **[00:41:59.800] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000729) actually, **[00:42:00.680] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000730) ang 2026 yung data ko po dito, **[00:42:03.120] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000731) sa MOOE is 1.2 billion, **[00:42:06.240] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000732) and for capital outlay **[00:42:07.880] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000733) is around 267 million. **[00:42:15.940] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000734) For NBI naman po, **[00:42:18.760] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000735) for MOOE is 1.3 billion, **[00:42:22.160] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000736) and capital outlay, **[00:42:23.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000737) is 1.1 billion. **[00:42:25.700] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000738) Teka, para clear lang na **[00:42:27.200] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000739) we're on the same page, **[00:42:28.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000740) ito yung **[00:42:29.000] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000741) na-receive in 20... **[00:42:31.720] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000742) 26 po, **[00:42:33.420] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000743) na special account in the general. **[00:42:34.960] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000744) So, magkano yung **[00:42:35.580] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000745) naibigay ng LRA **[00:42:37.820] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000746) sa treasury? **[00:42:41.680] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000747) Wait, sir. **[00:42:47.460] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000748) In 2026, **[00:42:49.840] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000749) ang total na provide ng LRA... **[00:42:52.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000750) No, 2026. **[00:42:53.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000751) No, 2025. **[00:42:54.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000752) Hindi pa tapos yung 2026 eh. **[00:42:55.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000753) Ah, kasi. **[00:42:56.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000754) 2025 provided by LRA... **[00:43:00.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000755) Teka, ito, total. **[00:43:02.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000756) Special account in the general fund **[00:43:04.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000757) is 2.2 billion. **[00:43:08.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000758) 2.2 billion ang nai-remit **[00:43:13.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000759) sa treasury ng LRA. **[00:43:14.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000760) Yes, sir, ng LRA. **[00:43:15.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000761) 2.2. **[00:43:16.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000762) 2 billion. **[00:43:18.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000763) Ano pa yung iba? **[00:43:20.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000764) Sa BI? **[00:43:22.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000765) May... **[00:43:23.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000766) Your Honor, can we... **[00:43:25.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000767) Can we confirm from the agency themselves? **[00:43:27.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000768) So that we have the correct data? **[00:43:29.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-000769) Yes, Admin? **[00:43:31.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000770) Good morning, Mr. Chair, **[00:43:32.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000771) with the permission of the Secretary. **[00:43:34.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000772) The LRA contributed to the national treasury in 2025, **[00:43:39.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000773) 11 billion, **[00:43:41.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000774) 444 million... **[00:43:43.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000775) Hindi 2.2, 11 billion. **[00:43:45.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000776) Hindi, for... **[00:43:47.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000777) Special account lang, sir, yung tinatanong. **[00:43:49.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000778) No, no, no. **[00:43:50.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000779) Yung nai-remit ang tinatanong po. **[00:43:51.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000780) Ang tinatanong po, **[00:43:52.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000781) sabi ko nga kanina, **[00:43:53.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000782) para same page tayo, **[00:43:54.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000783) yung nai-remit muna. **[00:43:55.660] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-000784) Ah, okay, sir. **[00:43:56.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000785) So that's 11 billion. **[00:43:57.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000786) Apo. **[00:44:05.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000787) Sige, Jerry, please continue. **[00:44:08.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000788) Mr. Chair, **[00:44:09.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000789) o Senator, **[00:44:10.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000790) ah, **[00:44:11.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000791) we... **[00:44:12.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000792) we were given, **[00:44:14.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000793) ah, **[00:44:15.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000794) 15% of our... **[00:44:18.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000795) Teka muna, **[00:44:19.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000796) yung munang nai-remit ninyo. **[00:44:20.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000797) Again, **[00:44:21.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000798) Mr. Senator, **[00:44:22.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000799) we remitted 11 billion 400... **[00:44:24.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000800) around 400 million **[00:44:26.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000801) to the national treasury. **[00:44:28.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000802) Out of that, **[00:44:29.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000803) we have a special account, **[00:44:31.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000804) which... **[00:44:32.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000805) of which 20% is supposed to be retained **[00:44:34.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000806) by the agency. **[00:44:36.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000807) We were... **[00:44:37.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000808) This is covered by law? **[00:44:38.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000809) Yes, sir. **[00:44:39.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000810) Yung earmark ito ah, 20%? **[00:44:40.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000811) Yes, sir. **[00:44:41.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000812) Under PD 1529. **[00:44:42.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000813) Thank you. **[00:44:43.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000814) And then, **[00:44:44.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000815) we were given **[00:44:45.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000816) in the NEP at that... **[00:44:47.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000817) at that time, **[00:44:48.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000818) 15% of our... **[00:44:49.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000819) 15% of our earnings, **[00:44:51.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000820) Your Honor. **[00:44:53.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000821) So, short ng 5%? **[00:44:55.660] LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios** (asr-000822) Yes, Your Honor. **[00:44:57.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000823) So, violation of law? **[00:45:00.000] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000824) kaya nga we want to find out **[00:45:03.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000825) so we can you know make some adjustments **[00:45:05.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000826) kasi ang laki ng cut ng **[00:45:07.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000827) department **[00:45:08.000] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000828) so at least sa aspect **[00:45:11.420] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000829) na ito we want to **[00:45:13.200] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000830) you know to support the department **[00:45:15.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000831) that's the reason why I'm **[00:45:16.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000832) trying to find out the details **[00:45:19.300] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000833) kasi kung under the law **[00:45:21.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000834) under the PD **[00:45:22.160] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000835) entitled kayo sa 20% **[00:45:25.060] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000836) tapos bibigyan lang kayo sa NEP ng 15% **[00:45:27.540] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000837) probably **[00:45:28.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000838) we can correct **[00:45:31.060] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000839) or **[00:45:32.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000840) i-remedyan natin yung error **[00:45:34.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000841) yung violation of law by giving back **[00:45:37.020] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000842) to the department **[00:45:38.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000843) LRA **[00:45:41.060] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000844) the missing 5% **[00:45:43.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000845) kaya nga kaya ako nagtatanong **[00:45:46.980] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000846) so okay settled **[00:45:49.160] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000847) Bureau of Immigration **[00:45:50.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000848) With the permission of Senator Ping Lakson **[00:45:52.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000849) we just like to place on record and acknowledge **[00:45:54.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000850) the presence of our former **[00:45:56.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000851) Senate President, Senate President **[00:45:58.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000852) Senator Tito Soto **[00:46:00.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000853) Thank you for joining us **[00:46:01.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000854) Go ahead Senator Ping **[00:46:03.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000855) Thank you, BI **[00:46:04.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000856) Another Kababayan **[00:46:07.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000857) Good morning honorable senators **[00:46:09.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000858) Good morning Senator Lakson **[00:46:11.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000859) Senator Pangilinan, Senator Ersito **[00:46:13.460] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000860) and Senator Soto **[00:46:14.400] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000861) Sir ang nakolekta po ng **[00:46:17.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000862) Bureau of Immigration **[00:46:18.820] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000863) for **[00:46:20.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000864) 2025 which was remitted to the **[00:46:23.860] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000865) National Treasury was in the amount **[00:46:26.020] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000866) of 4 billion, **[00:46:28.240] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000868) 669,787,927 pesos, **[00:46:34.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000869) Your Honor. **[00:46:34.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000870) We also have **[00:46:35.820] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000871) partial figures for the year **[00:46:38.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000872) 2026 from January **[00:46:40.460] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000873) to July 2026 **[00:46:41.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000874) ang nai-remit po namin sa **[00:46:44.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000875) National Treasury was **[00:46:46.240] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000876) in the amount of 2,658,991,272 **[00:46:51.900] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000877) pesos. **[00:46:54.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000878) wala po kami **[00:46:55.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000879) your honor na special account **[00:46:57.020] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000880) what we have **[00:46:58.120] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000881) is the amount of **[00:46:58.240] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000882) is yung pong mga **[00:47:00.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000883) nari-remit po po namin **[00:47:02.760] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000884) from the collection of the express lane fees **[00:47:05.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000885) 11% po nang **[00:47:07.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000886) nakokolekta namin sa express lane fees **[00:47:09.700] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000887) directa po namin dinideposit po **[00:47:12.560] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000888) pabalik sa National Treasury **[00:47:13.920] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000889) your honor **[00:47:14.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000890) and sa year po na 2025 **[00:47:17.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000891) ang 11% po na deposited **[00:47:19.800] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000892) directly to the National Treasury **[00:47:21.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000893) is 249,309,317.50 **[00:47:28.240] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000894) Pagdating naman po **[00:47:30.640] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000895) sa January to July **[00:47:32.560] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000896) 2026 **[00:47:33.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000897) nakapag-deposito po kami yung 11% po **[00:47:36.840] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000898) na directly to the National Treasury **[00:47:38.400] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000899) in the amount of **[00:47:39.840] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000900) 197,436,965 pesos **[00:47:45.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000901) your honor **[00:47:45.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000902) Thank you **[00:47:47.860] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000903) About the other agencies **[00:47:49.840] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000904) na meron ding income generation **[00:47:52.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000905) Just a clarification **[00:47:57.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000906) sir, **[00:47:58.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000907) at Senator Ping **[00:48:00.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000908) Nabanggit mo 4,619,000 **[00:48:04.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000909) or is that 4,669,000,000? **[00:48:08.700] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000910) Sorry, 4,669,000, your honor **[00:48:13.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000911) Not million **[00:48:14.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000912) Ah, sorry **[00:48:15.860] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000913) Ah, mahina sa mouth, your honor **[00:48:18.160] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000914) 4,669,787,927 **[00:48:25.280] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000915) thank you for the clarification **[00:48:26.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000916) Yes, yes okay **[00:48:27.400] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000917) Thank you **[00:48:28.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000918) At ang nabalik lang sa inyo sa under the express lane, magkano lang? **[00:48:33.200] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000919) Kasi wala nabalik sa inyo sa na-remit ninyo, no? **[00:48:37.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000920) Wala po, Your Honor. **[00:48:38.700] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000921) Yan po talaga ang directly nire-remit namin, 11% po ng koleksyon, directly to the National Treasury, Your Honor. **[00:48:44.020] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000922) Yung bumabalik sa inyo, from the express lane lang? **[00:48:48.120] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000923) Yung pong ano, ang breakdown po noon is... **[00:48:50.700] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000924) Teka, nawala na nga pala yung overtime nyo, no? **[00:48:53.620] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000925) Wala po. **[00:48:54.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000926) Pinatanggal nung kapartido ni Sen. Turquico. **[00:48:56.860] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000927) Sen. Turmar. **[00:48:59.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000928) Tinalis ni Maro. **[00:49:01.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000929) Sana po yung... **[00:49:02.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000930) Hindi, every time, alam nyo, every time nadadaan kami doon sa immigration lane, ito yung dinadadaan ng mga employees ninyo, eh. **[00:49:09.180] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000931) Baka pwedeng ibalik yung overtime. **[00:49:11.780] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000932) Apo, Your Honor. **[00:49:12.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000933) I don't know what it will take, no, to restore yung inyong overtime pay. **[00:49:19.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000934) Kasi, this is... **[00:49:21.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000935) The overtime pay is coming from the airlines, di ba? **[00:49:25.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000936) Yes, po, Your Honor. **[00:49:26.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000937) Yun ang tinanggal. **[00:49:28.060] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000938) Yes, po, Your Honor. **[00:49:29.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000939) So, anyway, bahala na si Chairman, siya na may abogado pag-aralan nyo, paano ma-restore. **[00:49:34.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000940) Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor. **[00:49:34.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000941) Saka siya rin yung Chairman ng Committee on Justice ng Senate. **[00:49:37.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000942) So, probably... **[00:49:38.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000943) We will review. **[00:49:39.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000944) Yeah. **[00:49:40.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000945) Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor. **[00:49:41.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000946) Thank you. **[00:49:42.520] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000947) Ano pang... **[00:49:42.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000948) But, but, just to add, because we're finalizing your modernization bill. **[00:49:51.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000949) Yes, Your Honor. **[00:49:51.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000950) Baka pwedeng doon na i-incorporate yun, no? **[00:49:54.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-000951) So, we'll also look into that. **[00:49:55.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000952) Thank you, thank you. **[00:49:56.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-000953) Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor. **[00:49:57.420] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000954) Thank you. **[00:49:57.980] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000955) Any other agency na merong income? **[00:49:59.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000956) NBI. **[00:50:03.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000957) Good morning, Your Honor. **[00:50:04.500] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000958) Yung legal, ha? **[00:50:05.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000959) Apo. **[00:50:08.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000960) Kukonti na po yung illegal, e. **[00:50:09.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000961) Marami ko tayo inuli. **[00:50:11.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000962) Last year, we have remitted 855,101,000. **[00:50:18.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000963) So, ito po yung earnings natin from the NBI clearance. **[00:50:21.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000964) The NBI is charging 130 for every clearance. **[00:50:26.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000965) And 30... **[00:50:26.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000966) So, 160 yan. **[00:50:28.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000967) 30 pesos is for the provider ng system. **[00:50:33.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000968) And out of that, under the law, the modernization law of NBI, **[00:50:37.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000969) we are supposed to receive 30% of the earnings, **[00:50:42.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000970) but not more than 150 million. **[00:50:44.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000971) So, lumalagpas po kami rin sa 150 kung 30% yung pagbabasihan. **[00:50:50.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-000972) So, we're just getting 150 million po every year. **[00:50:55.840] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000973) Thank you. **[00:50:56.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000974) Any other? **[00:50:57.400] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000975) PAO ba merong kinikita? **[00:51:00.640] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000976) By virtue of PAO law, co-sponsor po kayo nun. **[00:51:04.380] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000977) Section 16D, the cost of suit, attorney's fees, and contingent fees **[00:51:08.840] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000978) imposed upon the adversary of the PAO clients after a successful litigation **[00:51:13.720] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000979) shall be deposited to the National Treasury as trust fund. **[00:51:18.280] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000980) Ang overall pong na-deposit na natin sa trust fund, **[00:51:20.900] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000981) Agent PAO National Treasury Account ay **[00:51:25.600] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000982) 243,476,758.98 **[00:51:26.720] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000983) pesos. **[00:51:32.400] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000984) Sa buong 2025 po, 44,687,000 plus. **[00:51:38.000] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000985) So, wala po kami nakukuha rito. **[00:51:40.340] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000986) Pero sa batas po, nakalagay, **[00:51:43.840] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000987) shall be dispersed for the special allowances of authorized officials, **[00:51:48.580] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000988) lawyers of the PAO. **[00:51:50.280] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000989) Hindi pa rin namin nakuha. **[00:51:51.520] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000990) Pati po yung upgrading ng senior para equivalent sa napros, **[00:51:55.960] PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta** (asr-000991) hindi pa rin po natutupad ng DBM. **[00:51:59.620] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000992) Let's cut to the chase. **[00:52:01.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000993) Ano lang, long and short, magkano yung universe? **[00:52:05.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000994) 18 billion yung na-remit in 2025. **[00:52:07.840] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000995) Magkano yung nakabalik lang sa buong department? **[00:52:18.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000996) Let me clarify. **[00:52:20.420] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000997) Nag-remit kayo in 2025 ng income generated na **[00:52:23.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000998) 18 billion, 715 million, **[00:52:25.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-000999) 924 thousand. **[00:52:27.620] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001000) Magkano yung ibabalik sa inyo itong 2026? **[00:52:31.460] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001001) Dito sa NEP, under special accounts. **[00:52:49.460] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-001002) Sorry, we'll just add yung the total. **[00:52:51.700] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-001003) Special account lang po. **[00:52:53.120] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-001004) Yung mga na ibabalik. **[00:52:55.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001005) NEP is just a proposed appropriations eh. **[00:53:01.540] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001006) So, kaya nga nire-review ng Congress yan, di ba? **[00:53:04.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001007) Kasi nasa amin yung authorization phase. **[00:53:08.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001008) So, we want to find out, **[00:53:10.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001009) out of the 18 billion that you have remitted in 2025, **[00:53:14.520] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001010) magkano yung total lang na binabalik sa inyo **[00:53:16.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001011) under special accounts? **[00:53:18.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001012) Meron pa bang ibang nababalik na outside the special accounts? **[00:53:24.340] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001013) Wala na, di ba? **[00:53:25.160] DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar** (asr-001014) Wala na, sir. **[00:53:25.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001015) Okay, magkano yung binabalik sa inyo itong ano? **[00:53:28.780] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001016) Ang nasa akin dito, **[00:53:31.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001017) 1.78 billion for LRA. **[00:53:36.020] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001018) Ito yung sinasabi nga from the 20%, **[00:53:37.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001019) which is short ng kulang ng 5%, ano? **[00:53:43.620] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001020) Tapos, 118.6 million for OSG. **[00:53:50.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001021) Yun lang eh. **[00:53:50.820] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001022) Wala bang ibang naambunan pa rito, ibang agencies? **[00:53:54.760] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001023) Ito lang ba yung total? **[00:53:55.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001024) ... **[00:53:57.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001025) ... **[00:53:58.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001026) Your Honor, the PCGG also has our Chairman, Justice Sadang. **[00:54:06.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001027) Go ahead, Justice. **[00:54:08.020] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001028) Good morning, Your Honors. **[00:54:10.060] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001029) Teka muna, tama-tama. **[00:54:11.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001030) Dito pala yung director for ng DBM. **[00:54:15.500] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001031) So, siya yung gagang-up natin this morning. **[00:54:21.040] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001032) Sa PCGG po, **[00:54:22.840] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001033) we were able to remit to the... **[00:54:25.960] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001034) National Treasury, **[00:54:27.540] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001035) 1,571,000,000 pesos. **[00:54:32.920] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001036) We are entitled to 10%, **[00:54:35.860] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001037) but 5% of that, **[00:54:38.480] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001038) we give to the OSG **[00:54:40.420] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001039) because OSG represents the government **[00:54:43.500] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001040) in our cases filed in court. **[00:54:46.780] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001041) So, out of the 1.5 billion, **[00:54:49.280] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001042) we were able to... **[00:54:50.960] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001043) Only the amount of 23 million **[00:54:53.720] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001044) was **[00:54:55.960] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001050) availed of by the PCGG. **[00:54:57.660] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001051) So, diyan ang galing yung... **[00:54:59.340] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001052) Ano? **[00:54:59.780] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001053) Universe pala. **[00:55:00.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001054) Yung 118 million ng for OSG **[00:55:03.300] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001055) under the NEP. **[00:55:05.120] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001056) Yes. **[00:55:05.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001057) Yun yung sinasabing yung **[00:55:07.120] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001058) papunta sa... **[00:55:08.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001059) Galing sa inyo. **[00:55:09.960] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001060) Part. **[00:55:10.500] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001061) Part of it. **[00:55:11.480] PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang** (asr-001062) Yes, Mr. Senator. **[00:55:13.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001063) Thank you. **[00:55:14.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001064) So, medyo mahaba yung 10 minutes **[00:55:16.420] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001065) para mapagbigay niyong iba. **[00:55:17.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001066) Mamaya na lang ako second round. **[00:55:18.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001067) Sige. **[00:55:19.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001068) I'll wait 3 minutes. **[00:55:21.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001069) Okay. **[00:55:22.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001070) We now have our chairman **[00:55:24.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001071) of the Finance Committee. **[00:55:25.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001072) Do you have the floor, **[00:55:30.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001073) Senator JV? **[00:55:31.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001074) Go ahead. **[00:55:32.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001075) Thank you, Mr. Chair. **[00:55:34.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001076) Nagmaga po sa DOJ family. **[00:55:38.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001077) Anyway, **[00:55:39.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001078) tanong ko siyempre tungkol sa **[00:55:40.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001079) budget, no? **[00:55:42.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001080) Dahil napansin ko lang na **[00:55:44.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001081) of course, **[00:55:46.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001082) just like any other departments **[00:55:48.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001083) and agencies, **[00:55:49.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001084) because of the very **[00:55:50.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001085) limited fiscal space this year, **[00:55:53.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001086) everyone received **[00:55:53.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001087) the signature **[00:55:55.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001088) significant budget **[00:55:57.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001089) slashing of budget, no? **[00:56:00.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001090) Lahat po halos, no? **[00:56:01.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001091) And the Department of Justice **[00:56:02.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001092) submitted a total budget request **[00:56:04.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001093) of 121.629 billion **[00:56:07.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001094) but only 38.2% **[00:56:09.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001095) of this or 46.435 billion **[00:56:14.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001096) was recommended by DBM. **[00:56:17.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001097) So, for example, **[00:56:20.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001098) for BI, **[00:56:21.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001099) amount of 1.602 billion **[00:56:23.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001100) intended for ICT-related expansion **[00:56:25.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001101) was not recommended. **[00:56:27.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001102) For Bucor, **[00:56:28.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001103) sizable amount of **[00:56:29.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001104) 63.5 billion **[00:56:31.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001105) was not recommended **[00:56:32.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001106) intended for construction **[00:56:33.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001107) of various prison facilities. **[00:56:38.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001108) Tapos, **[00:56:38.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001109) siguro tanong ko na lang din po, **[00:56:39.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001110) significant, **[00:56:40.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001111) medyo significant **[00:56:42.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001112) ang reduction **[00:56:44.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001113) yung tungkol sa mga **[00:56:45.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001114) confidential funds. **[00:56:46.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001115) As you know that **[00:56:47.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001116) this budget season, **[00:56:49.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001117) we will be very strict **[00:56:50.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001118) that we will limit only **[00:56:52.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001119) confidential **[00:56:53.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001120) and **[00:56:54.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001121) and **[00:56:54.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001122) and **[00:56:55.140] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001123) and **[00:56:55.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001124) and **[00:56:55.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001125) and **[00:56:56.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001126) confidential funds **[00:56:57.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001127) and **[00:56:58.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001128) intelligence funds **[00:56:59.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001129) only for agencies **[00:57:01.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001130) that have something to do with **[00:57:03.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001131) national security, **[00:57:04.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001132) law enforcement, **[00:57:05.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001133) and of course, **[00:57:05.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001134) investigation. **[00:57:06.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001135) And DOJ, of course, **[00:57:08.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001136) with NBI **[00:57:09.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001137) being **[00:57:09.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001138) the investigative arm **[00:57:11.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001139) are the only ones **[00:57:12.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001140) that will **[00:57:12.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001141) are one **[00:57:13.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001142) one of the departments **[00:57:14.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001143) that will be allowed. **[00:57:16.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001144) Tanong ko lang po, no? **[00:57:17.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001145) Yung sa confidential pan, **[00:57:18.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001146) medyo malaki din yung **[00:57:19.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001147) nabawas. **[00:57:22.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001148) Siguro, **[00:57:22.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001149) sekretary, **[00:57:23.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001150) then probably **[00:57:23.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001151) we'll ask the **[00:57:24.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001152) attorney, Melvin, **[00:57:25.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001153) Matibag, **[00:57:26.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001154) NBI director, **[00:57:27.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001155) what will be the effect? **[00:57:28.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001156) Kasi po, marami, **[00:57:29.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001157) I understand, marami tayong **[00:57:30.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001158) witnesses, **[00:57:32.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001159) yung mga witness protection **[00:57:33.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001160) program, **[00:57:34.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001161) dito yung rin natin kinukuha **[00:57:35.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001162) or **[00:57:35.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001163) or aside from that, **[00:57:37.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001164) yung mga pang **[00:57:38.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001165) ano natin sa mga **[00:57:39.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001166) information **[00:57:39.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001167) and witnesses **[00:57:40.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001168) is **[00:57:42.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001169) derived from the **[00:57:43.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001170) confidential funds. **[00:57:44.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001171) So, what will be **[00:57:45.140] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001172) affected, **[00:57:46.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001173) sekretary Vida? **[00:57:47.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001174) Salamat po **[00:57:48.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001175) ng marami, **[00:57:49.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001176) Senator JV. **[00:57:50.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001177) Ang malaki po talagang **[00:57:52.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001178) maano, **[00:57:53.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001179) kasi sa confidential **[00:57:54.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001180) activities **[00:57:55.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001181) para po sa **[00:57:56.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001182) kaalaman ng lahat. **[00:57:57.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001183) Nilalatag kasi natin yan **[00:57:59.420] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001184) para matiyak natin **[00:58:00.620] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001185) para pag may **[00:58:01.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001186) na-pick up na **[00:58:02.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001187) informasyon **[00:58:03.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001188) ay handa tayo. **[00:58:05.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001189) Batid po natin **[00:58:06.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001190) ang kahalagahan nito **[00:58:08.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001191) pero **[00:58:08.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001192) ang amin pong **[00:58:10.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001193) hiling sana ay **[00:58:12.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001194) maibalik man lang **[00:58:13.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001195) yung 2026 level **[00:58:14.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001196) para po hindi **[00:58:16.340] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001197) maapektuhan **[00:58:17.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001198) ng malaki. **[00:58:18.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001199) Tulad po ngayon, **[00:58:20.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001200) napak... **[00:58:20.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001201) What is the 2026 level? **[00:58:23.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001202) For the record. **[00:58:24.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001203) For the record po, **[00:58:25.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001204) 2026 level **[00:58:27.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001205) is 1.1 billion. **[00:58:29.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001206) This year is **[00:58:30.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001207) for 2027, **[00:58:32.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001208) it's 579.4. **[00:58:34.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001209) Am I correct? **[00:58:35.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001210) Opo. **[00:58:35.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001211) So, it's 45.8%. **[00:58:37.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001212) It's lower. **[00:58:40.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001213) 45.8%. **[00:58:42.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001214) Yes, opo. **[00:58:42.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001215) Sige po. **[00:58:43.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001216) Sige, please proceed. **[00:58:45.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001217) This is basically **[00:58:45.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001218) broken down po **[00:58:47.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001219) para sa **[00:58:47.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001220) office of the **[00:58:49.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001221) secretary proper. **[00:58:50.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001222) May balik po yung **[00:58:51.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001223) 214 million. **[00:58:54.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001224) Kasi ang proposal po ngayon **[00:58:56.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001225) ay sa NEP ay **[00:58:57.620] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001226) 34 lamang. **[00:58:59.620] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001227) Para yung **[00:59:00.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001228) sa WPP po, **[00:59:02.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001229) may balik yung **[00:59:03.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001230) 500 million. **[00:59:05.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001231) Kasi ang **[00:59:05.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001232) sa NEP po **[00:59:06.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001233) ay 319.9... **[00:59:09.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001234) 319 million, **[00:59:11.420] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001235) 900,000. **[00:59:13.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001236) May balik po, **[00:59:14.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001237) actually nga po **[00:59:14.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001238) yung sa IACAT, **[00:59:15.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001239) napapansin po namin, **[00:59:17.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001240) interagency, **[00:59:18.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001241) yung 10 million po **[00:59:19.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001242) ay kulang **[00:59:20.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001243) at talaga pong **[00:59:21.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001244) kailangan pa namin **[00:59:22.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001245) dagdagan **[00:59:22.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001246) dahil may **[00:59:24.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001247) dagdag pong hamon. **[00:59:25.620] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001248) Yung cybercrime po **[00:59:26.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001249) na 475,000 **[00:59:29.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001250) na isung manaming **[00:59:30.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001251) manumbalik **[00:59:31.340] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001252) dahil **[00:59:32.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001253) ang kagandahan po **[00:59:33.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001254) dun sa laban mo **[00:59:33.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001255) sa cybercrime **[00:59:35.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001256) yung atin pong **[00:59:36.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001257) mga ginagampanan **[00:59:37.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001258) sa **[00:59:38.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001259) mandatong ito **[00:59:40.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001260) ay **[00:59:40.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001261) akalinsabay **[00:59:42.100] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001262) ng ating **[00:59:42.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001263) Office of the Cybercrime **[00:59:43.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001264) ng DOJ **[00:59:44.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001265) na dyan po **[00:59:45.620] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001266) ang NBI **[00:59:46.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001267) na dyan po yung **[00:59:47.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001268) DICT **[00:59:48.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001269) at iba po **[00:59:49.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001270) ang ahensya. **[00:59:50.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001271) So, **[00:59:51.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001272) may balik lamang po **[00:59:52.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001273) yung 475. **[00:59:54.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001274) Ang isa pa ho namin **[00:59:55.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001275) sana ho **[00:59:56.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001276) Senator **[00:59:57.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001277) ay yung sa **[00:59:58.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001278) yung sa NCC **[01:00:00.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001279) o SAEK. Dahil **[01:00:01.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001280) nagiging komplikado po yung laban **[01:00:03.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001281) natin doon. Sana po yung **[01:00:05.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001282) yung **[01:00:06.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001283) 5 million **[01:00:09.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001284) yung zero po **[01:00:11.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001285) na hindi po binigyan **[01:00:14.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001286) ng confidential fund **[01:00:16.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001287) para dito sa **[01:00:17.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001288) NCC o SAEK o SAEM. **[01:00:19.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001289) Sana po ay mabigyan kahit **[01:00:21.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001290) 5 million po, Your Honor. **[01:00:24.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001291) Ito po yung para po sa **[01:00:25.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001292) Department of **[01:00:29.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001293) Justice proper. Of course, **[01:00:32.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001294) may hiwalay po sa **[01:00:33.580] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001295) amin pong pamilya. Meron **[01:00:35.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001296) po din hiwalay na request ng **[01:00:37.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001297) confidential fund at may allocation **[01:00:39.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001298) ang Bureau of Immigration **[01:00:41.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001299) na **[01:00:42.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001300) for 2027 **[01:00:46.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001301) ay 20 million po **[01:00:47.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001302) ang sa Bureau of Immigration. **[01:00:50.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001303) Maari pong **[01:00:51.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001304) si **[01:00:52.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001305) Commissioner Viado po **[01:00:55.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001306) ang mag **[01:00:56.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001307) lahat ng kung ano magiging **[01:00:59.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001308) epekto kung ano. Please. **[01:01:02.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001309) Yes, Commissioner **[01:01:03.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001310) Viado. So, 20 million **[01:01:06.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001311) for 2027. How much **[01:01:08.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001312) for 2026? **[01:01:10.980] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001313) 20 million **[01:01:12.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001314) po for 2026, **[01:01:14.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001315) Your Honor. **[01:01:15.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001316) Ah, same, 20 million. So, pareho lang po? **[01:01:18.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001317) Pareho lang po, Your Honor. **[01:01:20.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001318) So, ano pong mapiktuhan? **[01:01:21.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001319) Would you **[01:01:22.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001320) request additional or that's **[01:01:25.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001321) enough for the agency? **[01:01:26.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001321-split-2) Makakatulong po ng malaki **[01:01:27.940] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001322) sa amin ang **[01:01:29.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001323) additional, ano po, **[01:01:31.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001324) pabudget po para dyan. **[01:01:33.500] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001325) Considering, Your Honors, **[01:01:36.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001326) ang amin pong mga intelligence **[01:01:37.700] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001327) agents who have been operating **[01:01:39.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001328) nationwide, at the moment po, **[01:01:42.280] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001329) wala pa hong 100 ho yan. **[01:01:44.580] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001330) Tapos po, **[01:01:47.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001331) nagre-request po kami **[01:01:48.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001332) sa DBM ng additional **[01:01:49.760] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001333) positions. Ang amin pong **[01:01:52.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001334) fugitive search unit, yung pong **[01:01:53.860] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001335) mga humahabol o tumutugi sa mga **[01:01:55.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001336) pugante, wala pa hong dalawang **[01:01:57.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001337) po yan, Your Honor. So, imagine niyo **[01:01:59.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001338) po yung aming **[01:02:00.540] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001339) constraints pagdating sa **[01:02:02.700] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001340) pagpapalabas ng **[01:02:05.540] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001341) mga hahabol po at tutugis **[01:02:07.540] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001342) at magagadar ng intelligence. **[01:02:10.060] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001343) Ano po, 20 million po yan. **[01:02:12.540] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001344) Nationwide po ang **[01:02:13.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001345) operations namin. So, makakatulong po **[01:02:15.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001346) ng malaki kung yan po ay matatagdagan, **[01:02:17.400] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001347) Your Honors. **[01:02:18.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001347-split-2) What is the **[01:02:19.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001348) proposal? **[01:02:21.040] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001349) If possible po, Your Honor, **[01:02:22.940] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001350) 50 to 100 percent of that. **[01:02:25.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001351) So, additional, ano po, 10 to **[01:02:27.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-001352) 20 million would be very much. I think, Senator, **[01:02:29.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001353) Blackson would like to interject. **[01:02:30.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001354) Ano lang, just to highlight yung pagiging **[01:02:32.580] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001355) pretence, yung cybercrime, **[01:02:35.100] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001356) 425,000, that's **[01:02:36.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001357) annual, no? That's for one year? **[01:02:39.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001358) That's for one year. **[01:02:40.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001359) Okay. So, kung i-divide mo ng 12, **[01:02:43.100] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001360) 35,000 a month? **[01:02:45.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001361) Apo. **[01:02:46.580] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001362) Yun lang, Mr. Chairman, para lang **[01:02:48.300] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001363) makita natin na ganun ka **[01:02:50.820] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001364) parang walang silbi. **[01:02:52.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001365) Kasi if you have 35,000 monthly **[01:02:54.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001366) intelligence fund, ano ma-accomplish mo? **[01:02:57.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001367) Thank you. **[01:02:58.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001368) Kaya lang, **[01:02:59.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001369) magaganap ang cybercrime. **[01:03:02.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001370) I mean, **[01:03:02.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001371) part of the reason, **[01:03:05.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001372) a factor, a major factor. **[01:03:07.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001373) Go ahead, Senator Jamie. **[01:03:09.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001374) And also, cybercrime is a **[01:03:11.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001375) clear and present danger, no? **[01:03:12.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001376) Talagang everyone, masyado na marami **[01:03:15.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001377) rin ang apektado sa cybercrime. **[01:03:18.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001378) Sen, sa pagpapatuloy po, **[01:03:20.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001379) kung pwede po, **[01:03:20.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001380) ang NBI po, **[01:03:23.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001381) ang ga-a po nila **[01:03:25.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001382) for 2026 is **[01:03:26.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001383) 350,400,000. **[01:03:29.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001384) Pero sa NEP po, **[01:03:31.380] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001385) for 2027, **[01:03:33.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001386) ito po ay binaba sa **[01:03:34.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001387) 175,400,000. **[01:03:38.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001388) Si Director Melvin po **[01:03:40.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001389) would be able to explain. **[01:03:43.380] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-001390) Yes, so probably without **[01:03:44.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001391) divulging the specific confidential **[01:03:46.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001392) activities, because we know for a fact **[01:03:48.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001393) that of course, kayo po ang investigative **[01:03:50.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001394) arm ng DOJ. **[01:03:55.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001395) What will be severely **[01:03:57.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001396) affected? Kasi from **[01:03:58.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001397) 300 plus million, **[01:04:00.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001398) 175 na lang po, no? **[01:04:02.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001399) What will be affected, of course, and **[01:04:04.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001400) what was the utilization? **[01:04:06.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001401) Bakit to? Anong reason? Why **[01:04:08.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001402) was this slashed by the DBM? **[01:04:11.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001403) Si Director Ney Matibag? **[01:04:12.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001404) Good morning po, at maraming salamat po. **[01:04:15.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001405) At mabuti na i-raise po, and even **[01:04:16.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001406) during the opening statement of **[01:04:18.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001407) good Senator **[01:04:20.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001408) Francis Pangilinan, I noticed already **[01:04:23.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001409) that there was already an emphasis on the matter. **[01:04:26.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001410) Originally, tama po **[01:04:27.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001411) yung sinabi ni Secretary Vida. **[01:04:28.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001412) Dun sa GAAPO last year, **[01:04:31.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001413) 300 dyan, but actually it's only **[01:04:33.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001414) 174,000,000.5 **[01:04:36.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001415) na nagkaroon lang po yung **[01:04:37.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001416) SICA, yung Congressional **[01:04:39.220] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001417) Enhancement po, dinagdagad, **[01:04:41.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001418) kaya naging 300 po. **[01:04:42.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001419) So, we requested for **[01:04:44.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001420) a higher confidential **[01:04:47.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001421) funds. We are requesting sana **[01:04:48.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001422) of about mga 1 billion po **[01:04:51.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001423) yan, divided to 12 months. **[01:04:53.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001424) Because more than the **[01:04:55.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001425) expenses on the **[01:04:56.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001426) yung pong operations namin, **[01:04:58.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001427) we are intending to **[01:05:01.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001428) procure tools and equipment **[01:05:02.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001429) to fight cybercrime. **[01:05:04.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001430) Right now, we are receiving cybercrime **[01:05:07.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001431) complaints. Siguro po, **[01:05:09.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001432) 7 out of 10 **[01:05:11.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001433) complaints involving cybercrime. **[01:05:13.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001434) Yung alam lang po nung **[01:05:14.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001435) mga pangkaraniwan po **[01:05:16.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001436) nating mga kababayan, yung mga cyber **[01:05:19.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001437) libel lang. But there are a lot of cyber scams **[01:05:21.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001438) happening. Just recently, **[01:05:23.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001439) I just returned from a trip from **[01:05:24.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001440) Bangkok. This morning, **[01:05:27.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001441) we have a coordination. **[01:05:28.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001442) With the Homeland Security, **[01:05:30.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001443) United States Homeland Security Investigation **[01:05:32.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001444) and the **[01:05:34.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001445) CIB of Thailand. **[01:05:36.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001446) And we found out, ang dami pong **[01:05:38.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001447) mga scam na **[01:05:40.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001448) naging intertwine, naging interrelate po **[01:05:42.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001449) sa atin dito sa Pilipinas. **[01:05:45.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001450) It's sad to say na **[01:05:46.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001451) yung pong ating mga criminals **[01:05:49.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001452) ngayon, medyo mas nagiging advanced pa. **[01:05:51.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001453) If you recall, when Pogo **[01:05:52.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001454) was banned by the President, **[01:05:55.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001455) yung pong mga Pogo na to, **[01:05:57.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001456) they collapsed their operation into scam. **[01:05:58.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001457) Scam hub. Lab scam. **[01:06:00.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001458) Mahalo-halo na po yan. Cryptocurrency. **[01:06:03.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001459) So marami naman pong tools. **[01:06:04.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001460) We've been attending conferences **[01:06:06.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001461) kung saan yung mga tools were presented. **[01:06:09.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001462) And it's very difficult **[01:06:10.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001463) to get hold of it **[01:06:12.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001464) going through the usual procurement **[01:06:14.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001465) process. So yung nire-request **[01:06:17.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001466) po namin increase sana dito **[01:06:18.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001467) for the confidential funds is for us **[01:06:20.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001468) to procure these tools to fight **[01:06:22.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001469) yung ganito pong mga criminal activities. **[01:06:25.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001470) And right now, **[01:06:26.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001471) just to give the easier, **[01:06:28.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001472) explanation, why are we asking for **[01:06:30.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001473) for a higher confidential funds. **[01:06:33.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001474) Last year, we are averaging **[01:06:35.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001475) about 110 operations **[01:06:36.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001476) monthly. Magkakasama na po yan **[01:06:39.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001477) yung successful tsaka yung pong mga operations **[01:06:41.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001478) na hindi naman po talaga admittedly **[01:06:43.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001479) hindi lahat ng operations will be **[01:06:44.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001480) successful. But starting po **[01:06:47.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001481) nitong maddang mga April, **[01:06:48.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001482) nag-erange na po kami ng 200 to **[01:06:50.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001483) 220 operations. **[01:06:52.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001484) Every month po, Director? **[01:06:54.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001485) 200 to 220 operations **[01:06:57.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001486) monthly po. **[01:06:58.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001487) And I think the good Senator Ping Laxon **[01:07:01.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001488) can very well relate to this. **[01:07:02.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001489) Kasi meron pong co-plan na tinatawag yan. **[01:07:05.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001490) And in this co-plan, we spend so much **[01:07:07.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001491) to yung mga witnesses, **[01:07:09.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001492) information gathering, surveillance, **[01:07:11.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001493) which will last from 3 weeks to 1 month. **[01:07:14.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001494) Yung ikot po ng tao. **[01:07:15.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001495) So let's say, on the average, **[01:07:17.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001496) we'll spend 100 to 200,000 pesos **[01:07:20.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001497) per operations. **[01:07:22.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001498) At 200 operations **[01:07:24.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001499) per month, **[01:07:25.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001500) that's already about 40 million po **[01:07:27.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001501) ang kailangan natin na, **[01:07:28.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001502) expenses. **[01:07:30.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001503) Let me cite a specific example **[01:07:32.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001504) ng operation namin na napakalaki po **[01:07:34.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001505) ng gastos. I'm sure everybody **[01:07:36.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001506) heard about yung operation namin going **[01:07:37.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001507) after substandard metals **[01:07:40.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001508) and radioactive materials. **[01:07:41.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001509) Yung pagbili pa lang po namin ng mga samples **[01:07:44.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001510) dyan. Anyway, this can be **[01:07:46.020] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001511) details dahil, ano lang naman po **[01:07:48.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001512) minimum lang. Yung mga bakal po **[01:07:50.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001513) na bibili namin, will already **[01:07:52.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001514) cost about millions. **[01:07:54.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001515) So yun po yung **[01:07:55.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001516) hinihiling namin dito. **[01:07:57.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001517) And of course, I know **[01:07:59.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001518) that the Senate can **[01:08:01.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001519) very well exercise oversight **[01:08:02.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001520) na hindi ba natin **[01:08:04.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001521) i-devolge yung ano po rito, **[01:08:07.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001522) yung ating pong operational capacity **[01:08:09.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001523) because of the national security issue. **[01:08:13.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001524) Open naman po kami dun sa ganoon. **[01:08:15.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001525) And mostly yun pong tools. Good thing po, **[01:08:17.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001526) there are people that we help, **[01:08:19.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001527) Agriculturalist Valley, that I know that **[01:08:20.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001528) the interest of good Senator Senator Francis, **[01:08:24.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001529) ngayon po ang NBI, **[01:08:25.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001530) we're able to apprehend about 15 **[01:08:27.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001531) billion worth of illegally **[01:08:29.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001532) yung pong mga smuggled **[01:08:31.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001533) na goods. **[01:08:32.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001534) We catch 59 containers **[01:08:35.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001535) of illegal cigarettes po. **[01:08:38.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001536) Based on the **[01:08:39.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001537) computation of beer, 15 billion po yan. **[01:08:42.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001538) So tuloy-tuloy po yan. **[01:08:44.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001539) At ang ginagawa po namin, **[01:08:45.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001540) from surveillance to apprehension **[01:08:47.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001541) until dalhin po namin sa **[01:08:49.220] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001542) national prosecution. **[01:08:51.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001543) So medyo mahaba po **[01:08:53.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001544) na trabaho, na yun po talaga **[01:08:55.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001545) yung kailangan namin na **[01:08:56.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001546) additional na fundings. **[01:08:58.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001547) And I have to mention that **[01:09:00.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001548) Secre-Vida, yung po kanilang confidential, **[01:09:03.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001549) to augment yung samin, **[01:09:04.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001550) nag-uusap po kami, nagdadagdag po po sila **[01:09:06.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001551) sa amin para magawa po namin yun. **[01:09:09.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001552) And si Commissioner Joel **[01:09:11.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001553) mentioned about the **[01:09:12.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001554) FSU po niya, **[01:09:15.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001555) ino-augment din po namin yun. **[01:09:16.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001556) We have very good coordination para po magawa **[01:09:18.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001557) namin yan. So that will be **[01:09:20.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001558) the reason. But of course, whatever will be **[01:09:22.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001559) given to us, we will make good of **[01:09:24.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001560) what we can do. **[01:09:26.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001561) We will try to maintain kung ano po yung **[01:09:28.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001562) nagagawa namin and improve it. Salamat po. **[01:09:31.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001563) Just on that point, **[01:09:33.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001564) Senator J, **[01:09:34.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001565) with your permission. In fact, **[01:09:37.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001566) sa DBCC **[01:09:38.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001567) presentation, sabi ng BSP, **[01:09:41.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001568) of the retail **[01:09:43.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001569) payments **[01:09:43.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001570) nationwide, **[01:09:46.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001571) 64% are **[01:09:48.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001572) online. So sa **[01:09:50.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001573) bawat sampu na **[01:09:52.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001574) bayaran na retail, **[01:09:55.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001575) 6% e online. **[01:09:56.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001576) So understandably so, **[01:09:59.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001577) yung cyber **[01:10:00.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001578) criminal **[01:10:02.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001579) activities, **[01:10:04.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001580) alaki nung **[01:10:06.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001581) makukuha nila **[01:10:08.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001582) dahil **[01:10:10.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001583) trilyon actually ang mga **[01:10:12.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001584) transaksyon. Tapos **[01:10:13.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001585) 34,000 a day, ano, a month. **[01:10:16.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-001586) 35,000 per month. **[01:10:19.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001587) So that's really a cause **[01:10:20.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001588) for concern. The other thing that **[01:10:22.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001589) si Senator Ping, **[01:10:24.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001590) with your permission, Senator JV, **[01:10:26.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001591) yung customs **[01:10:28.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001592) modernization measured kasi, **[01:10:30.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001593) merong component doon **[01:10:32.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001594) na pagka may mga **[01:10:34.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001595) rewards, ini-implement **[01:10:36.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001596) ba ninyo yun? **[01:10:38.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001597) Hindi po kami nakaka-implement **[01:10:40.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001598) doon. Actually, **[01:10:41.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001599) let's say, for example, yung pong aming operations **[01:10:44.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001600) na latest nga, what we were able **[01:10:46.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001601) to up, and 59 containers of **[01:10:48.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001602) smuggled cigarettes, **[01:10:50.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001603) tinaturn over po namin sa **[01:10:52.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001604) BOC yan. Tapos, **[01:10:54.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001605) or ang **[01:10:55.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001606) mga **[01:10:56.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001607) WSD po, yung **[01:10:57.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001608) either sa BIR nga po, or sa **[01:11:01.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001609) Bureau of Customs. But that's a good idea **[01:11:03.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001610) because we're discussing it na **[01:11:05.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001611) probably we'll have to claim also for that **[01:11:07.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001612) so that we can get a reward **[01:11:09.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001613) and upgrade whatever capacity **[01:11:11.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001614) that we have in the enforcement. **[01:11:13.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001615) I-check ninyo kasi, hindi naman **[01:11:15.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001616) siguro, pero baka merong tumatanggap **[01:11:17.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001617) nung reward, pero hindi nyo alam **[01:11:19.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001618) na nakapangalan sa inyo. **[01:11:21.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001619) Biro lang. **[01:11:23.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001620) Go ahead, sir. **[01:11:25.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001621) Thank you. **[01:11:26.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001622) Dagdag na natin because cybercrime is part **[01:11:28.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001623) of NBI's, ano, no? Isa sa mga **[01:11:30.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001624) talagang inaano nyo yun, natin **[01:11:32.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001625) focus, no? And it **[01:11:35.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001626) was pointed out earlier by Senator **[01:11:36.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001627) Lackson, no? 475,000 **[01:11:41.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001628) yung is office of the cybercrime **[01:11:43.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001629) na confidential fund. **[01:11:45.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001630) So, sa NBI, **[01:11:47.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001631) dun sa 175 million, **[01:11:48.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001632) part na rin po ba yun? Do you spend also **[01:11:50.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001633) for, of course, sa cybercrime, **[01:11:53.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001634) mga ilan po kaya ang **[01:11:54.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001635) ginagastos nyo ron? Kasi, **[01:11:56.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001636) nabawasan na nga yung sa inyong, ano, yung **[01:11:58.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001637) usual, yung from 300 **[01:12:00.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001638) to 175, no? So, **[01:12:02.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001639) kasama rin to ang cybercrime. **[01:12:06.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001640) Yes, sir. **[01:12:07.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001641) Alamsam na po ito, eh. **[01:12:09.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001642) So, yung per-operation namin, **[01:12:10.900] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001643) we'll devote the dedicated expenses **[01:12:13.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001644) na kailangan po. Ang naiiwan **[01:12:14.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001645) nga po, yung desire sana namin to **[01:12:16.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001646) upgrade our law enforcement **[01:12:19.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001647) capacity by procuring the **[01:12:20.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001648) necessary equipment and tools. **[01:12:23.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001649) Kasi po, magkiba pa yung cybercrime **[01:12:24.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001650) sa cyberprod, eh. So, **[01:12:26.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001651) yung cyberprod, dun nga po yung mas mabigat. **[01:12:28.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001652) May mas mga economic impact po talaga **[01:12:30.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001653) ito, eh, na tinitingnan po namin. **[01:12:33.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001654) Ang sinasabi ko nga, **[01:12:35.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001655) probably the next budget **[01:12:36.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001656) cycle, hihimayin namin **[01:12:38.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001657) na dapat ito yung kailangan namin **[01:12:40.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001658) confidential funds for **[01:12:41.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001659) the cybercrime, for the cyberprod, **[01:12:44.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001660) for the USAIC, for the CISAM. **[01:12:47.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001661) Lahat po yan, eh. May **[01:12:48.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001662) transnational tries pa po kami. And, **[01:12:50.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001663) I would like to mention, insert ko na rin po, **[01:12:53.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001664) na we are intending **[01:12:54.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001665) to put sana, **[01:12:56.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001666) NBI liaison **[01:12:57.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001667) in other countries, yung sa **[01:13:00.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001668) mga embassies po natin, that we have the strong **[01:13:02.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001669) presence of our OFWs. **[01:13:05.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001670) Kasi, napansin po namin na **[01:13:06.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001671) tumataas po yung cases **[01:13:08.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001672) ng mga cyberprod, dahil nabibiktima po **[01:13:10.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001673) yung mga OFWs natin. **[01:13:12.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001674) And it will be good if we have an **[01:13:14.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001675) NBI attache **[01:13:16.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001676) representing para po doon, **[01:13:18.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001677) ma-process, matulungan na po natin yung atin po **[01:13:20.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001678) mga kababayan na OFW. **[01:13:22.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001679) Anyway, it's provided for under the **[01:13:24.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001680) Republic of Modernizing the, **[01:13:26.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001681) the NBI, na kailangan po, **[01:13:28.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001682) meron po tayong mga **[01:13:30.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001683) attache din po. And then, **[01:13:33.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001684) other than that, **[01:13:34.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001685) the coordination with our counterparts abroad **[01:13:36.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001686) will be easier for us to address **[01:13:38.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001687) transnational crimes po. **[01:13:41.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001688) With the permission **[01:13:42.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001689) of Senator JV, bakit hindi na-implementa **[01:13:44.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001690) kung meron ng **[01:13:45.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001691) provision sa **[01:13:47.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001692) modernization ng NBI? **[01:13:50.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001693) Well, unang-una na po yun, yung **[01:13:52.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001694) budgetary constraint po talaga. **[01:13:54.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001695) So, right now, what we are doing, **[01:13:56.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001696) we form a technical working group to **[01:13:58.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001697) coordinate it with the Department **[01:14:00.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001698) of Foreign Affairs for us to **[01:14:02.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001699) implement it po. **[01:14:04.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001700) Perhaps, baka masyadong malaki **[01:14:06.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001701) hinihingi ninyo. Baka dapat mag-upisa doon **[01:14:08.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001702) sa mga areas lang na... **[01:14:10.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001703) Kung mga ipilot nyo muna, di ba? **[01:14:12.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001704) Yes, go ahead. **[01:14:13.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001705) We are targeting muna yung areas like **[01:14:16.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001706) Middle East, then sa Europe, **[01:14:18.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001707) then sa South America, **[01:14:20.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001708) then dito po sa Asia, yung malaki po **[01:14:22.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001709) na presence. Hindi po lahat ng ating **[01:14:24.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001710) ng embassy. **[01:14:25.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001711) Hindi po sa malaki presence. **[01:14:26.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001712) Timeline, Director, **[01:14:28.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001713) as to when you can implement **[01:14:31.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001714) portions, provisions of the law? **[01:14:33.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001715) Well, kung malagyan po natin **[01:14:36.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001716) ang kaukulan po na **[01:14:37.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001717) kailangan na budget, **[01:14:38.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001718) we are already preparing the framework. **[01:14:41.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001719) We are... **[01:14:41.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001720) Meron naman po kami mga counterparts like the **[01:14:44.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001721) very constant coordination with the FBI **[01:14:46.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001722) na meron po silang attache **[01:14:49.220] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001723) everywhere na kung paano po **[01:14:51.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001724) namin gagawin. So, mabilis na lang po **[01:14:53.020] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001725) siguro, with the next year, **[01:14:55.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001726) meron na po tayo mga... **[01:14:56.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001727) I-forget natin next year para **[01:14:57.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001728) maikasana. **[01:15:00.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001729) and we'll help you **[01:15:02.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001730) as chairman of the committee on justice **[01:15:04.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001731) maraming salamat po **[01:15:05.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001732) doon sa cyber **[01:15:07.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001733) cybercrime, cyberfraud, cyberlibel **[01:15:10.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001734) yung karamihan yan, hinahawakan nyo rin **[01:15:12.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001735) so siguro dahil **[01:15:14.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001736) very prevalent na yung cyberfraud **[01:15:16.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001737) ngayon, halos lahat online na **[01:15:18.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001738) yung mga scam at lahat **[01:15:20.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001739) just to give us an idea **[01:15:21.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001740) how many cases do you **[01:15:24.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001741) handle of cyberfraud kaya **[01:15:25.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001742) just to give us a ballpark **[01:15:28.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-001743) figure every, at least every month **[01:15:30.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001744) well, every month na lang po **[01:15:32.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001745) very basic, pagsabay na po natin yung **[01:15:34.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001746) tatlo, on the average we're about getting **[01:15:36.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001747) 7 to 8 cases po, out of **[01:15:38.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001748) 10, sa NBI po **[01:15:40.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001749) kung hindi man po sa directly related **[01:15:42.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001750) yung mga crimes po **[01:15:44.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001751) na ginawa, eh, related **[01:15:46.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001752) po sa cyber, let me say **[01:15:48.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001753) sa **[01:15:49.220] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001754) example, yung pong nangyayari ngayon **[01:15:52.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001755) yung nihilistic violence **[01:15:53.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001756) that is cyber, at yung monitoring **[01:15:56.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001757) po natin dyan, nasa deep web po **[01:15:58.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001758) sila dyan, sa dark web, kailangan natin makita **[01:16:00.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001759) and we are doing **[01:16:02.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001760) our best to monitor it, and incidentally **[01:16:04.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001761) report ko lang po **[01:16:06.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001762) yesterday, we were able to **[01:16:08.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001763) get hold of one of the individuals **[01:16:10.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001764) na somehow **[01:16:11.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001765) related to what happened in South Cotabato **[01:16:14.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001766) and yesterday also **[01:16:16.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001767) we made an apprehension **[01:16:18.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001768) of one of suspected groomers **[01:16:20.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001769) from Cebu, and **[01:16:22.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001770) with the help of the NPS and DOJ **[01:16:24.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001771) we will be processing it today **[01:16:25.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001772) and probably by the next coming days **[01:16:28.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001773) there will be 10 rescue of individuals **[01:16:30.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001774) who belong to that group, yung **[01:16:31.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001775) COA po at sa NBI groups po **[01:16:34.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001776) pero kung meron po siguro **[01:16:36.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001777) kaming **[01:16:36.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001778) yung sinasabi kong **[01:16:40.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001779) tools namin, which are available **[01:16:42.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001780) adyan na naman po yung mga tools na yan **[01:16:44.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001781) that ang sakin lang po **[01:16:46.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001782) it should not go to the ordinary procurement **[01:16:48.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001783) because that is something that somehow **[01:16:50.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001784) like a trade secret for law **[01:16:52.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001785) enforcement, eh baka mas mabilis **[01:16:54.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001786) po sana, but we're doing **[01:16:56.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001787) our best and with the **[01:16:58.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001788) coordination of DOJ po and other **[01:17:00.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001789) DSWD also **[01:17:02.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001790) eh meron naman po tayong progress ngayon dito **[01:17:04.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001791) and we will make that report **[01:17:06.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001792) also to the Senate po **[01:17:07.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001793) on that point **[01:17:09.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001794) Director **[01:17:10.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001795) meron tayong mga nalalakap na **[01:17:14.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001796) informasyon na **[01:17:15.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001797) parang unusual **[01:17:18.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001798) or hindi pangkaraniwan **[01:17:20.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001799) yung tatlong beses **[01:17:22.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001800) sunod-sunod every month **[01:17:23.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001801) yung mass shooting **[01:17:25.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001802) na never nangyayarin **[01:17:28.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001803) which leads many **[01:17:31.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001804) to suspect that this is actually **[01:17:33.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001805) organized **[01:17:34.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001806) syndicated and calibrated **[01:17:37.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001807) and I wouldn't be surprised if it is **[01:17:41.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001808) as a means **[01:17:43.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001809) to create chaos **[01:17:45.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001810) to **[01:17:47.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001811) create instability **[01:17:48.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001812) to **[01:17:49.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001813) create fear **[01:17:52.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001814) because **[01:17:55.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001815) and to make government **[01:17:57.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001816) look weak **[01:17:58.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001817) in other words **[01:17:59.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001818) that asked Angel **[01:18:01.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001819) ako, nung lakarang eleksyon **[01:18:04.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001820) ako yung valediktorian ng disinformation eh **[01:18:06.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001821) mga 100 million views **[01:18:09.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001822) ng paninira **[01:18:09.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001823) directed at me **[01:18:11.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001824) na hundreds of **[01:18:14.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001825) or billions of pesos worth **[01:18:16.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001826) in other words, I know it can be done **[01:18:18.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001827) yung paninira **[01:18:19.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001828) it's actually done **[01:18:21.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001829) and I'm a victim of that **[01:18:23.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001830) so if it can be done **[01:18:25.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001831) in electoral campaigns **[01:18:28.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001832) then it can also be done **[01:18:29.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001833) today **[01:18:30.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001834) kasi ako **[01:18:33.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001835) you know, it got me thinking **[01:18:35.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001836) never **[01:18:36.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001837) in our 20 plus years **[01:18:39.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001838) in the senate **[01:18:39.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001839) that you have a mass shooting **[01:18:41.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001840) every month **[01:18:43.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001841) out of the blue **[01:18:45.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001842) this year alone **[01:18:47.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001843) and I remember also **[01:18:49.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001844) yung **[01:18:52.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001845) when I was NFA chairman of the board **[01:18:54.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001846) nagkaroon ng issue **[01:18:56.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001847) on plastic rice **[01:18:58.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001848) nagkaroon ng frenzy **[01:19:01.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001849) natakot yung tao **[01:19:03.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001850) dahil daw baka yung kinakain nila **[01:19:06.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001851) ay lason **[01:19:07.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001852) and when we monitored it **[01:19:10.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001853) merong orchestrated effort **[01:19:12.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001854) to spread this information **[01:19:15.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001855) to make **[01:19:16.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001856) kaya ako yung NFA chairman eh **[01:19:18.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001857) so what we did to counter it **[01:19:21.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001858) kung everyday **[01:19:22.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001859) meron silang nilalabas na information **[01:19:24.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001860) about fake rice **[01:19:26.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001861) everyday may nilalabas kaming information **[01:19:28.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001862) about testing these **[01:19:30.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001863) reports **[01:19:31.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001864) and belaying **[01:19:33.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001865) the **[01:19:35.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001866) rumors **[01:19:38.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001867) of fake rice **[01:19:39.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001868) we had 111 reports of fake rice **[01:19:42.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001869) nationwide **[01:19:43.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001870) and we tested 111 **[01:19:46.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001871) of those rice **[01:19:48.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001872) reported as fake **[01:19:49.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001873) and only one was actually contaminated **[01:19:52.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001874) so it was a frenzy **[01:19:55.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001875) it was a hype **[01:19:55.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001876) it was orchestrated **[01:19:57.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001877) we believe that **[01:19:58.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001878) to create fear **[01:20:00.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001879) and anger **[01:20:03.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001880) and so I'm just concerned **[01:20:07.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001881) please **[01:20:08.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001882) whatever you can divulge **[01:20:11.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001883) go ahead **[01:20:11.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001884) but if you think that will **[01:20:13.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001885) compromise your own investigations **[01:20:16.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-001886) feel free to say so **[01:20:17.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001887) well within the agency po **[01:20:19.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001888) as regards to NBE cases **[01:20:22.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001889) we are preparing **[01:20:24.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001890) a legislative framework **[01:20:25.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001891) that we will submit to the Senate **[01:20:27.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001892) and the House of Representatives **[01:20:28.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001893) so representative **[01:20:29.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001894) eto na po yung tinatawag naming **[01:20:30.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001895) age gating **[01:20:31.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001896) wherein the use of the social media **[01:20:34.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001897) of the cyber **[01:20:35.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001898) will be somehow monitored **[01:20:37.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001899) so we are using the term age gating **[01:20:40.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001900) so depende po sa edad **[01:20:42.020] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001901) kung paano natin ito **[01:20:44.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001902) papagamitin **[01:20:45.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001903) at paano na gamitin **[01:20:46.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001904) and yung trust assessment analytics po **[01:20:49.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001905) na kailangan natin **[01:20:50.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001906) dun po pumapasok yung pinag-uusapan natin **[01:20:52.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001907) na may pangangailangan po kami **[01:20:54.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001908) sa additional na pondo **[01:20:56.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001909) para po maka-cope up po ito **[01:20:58.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001910) tayo dun **[01:20:58.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001911) tapos coordination with the school **[01:21:01.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001912) yung threat validation **[01:21:02.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001913) yung school response po **[01:21:04.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001914) na gagawin **[01:21:05.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001915) which what we did **[01:21:06.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001916) kaya po namin nakuha **[01:21:07.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001917) itong personality **[01:21:08.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001918) from South Cotabato **[01:21:10.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001919) because of the **[01:21:10.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001920) assistance of the schools **[01:21:12.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001921) evolved po **[01:21:13.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001922) dito sa ating ginagawa **[01:21:14.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001923) but I agree with you **[01:21:16.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001924) Senator **[01:21:16.900] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001925) napakadali pong gumawa **[01:21:18.900] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001926) ng mga istorya ngayon **[01:21:19.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001927) at nakikita naman natin yan **[01:21:21.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001928) araw-araw **[01:21:21.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001929) and that is what we want to pipe **[01:21:24.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001930) kami po sa NBI **[01:21:25.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001931) we don't want that our **[01:21:27.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001932) electoral process **[01:21:28.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001933) our judicial process **[01:21:30.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001934) our legislative process **[01:21:31.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001935) at yung ginagawa ng ating gobyerno **[01:21:34.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001936) will be dictated by people **[01:21:35.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001937) who can manipulate **[01:21:36.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001938) dito po sa cyberspace **[01:21:38.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001939) wherein nangyayari po talaga **[01:21:40.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001940) at nakikita natin **[01:21:41.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001941) and easy to blame **[01:21:42.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001942) we don't want to blame anyone **[01:21:44.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001943) dito sa nangyayari ito **[01:21:45.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001944) some people are too easy to say **[01:21:47.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001945) that they're blaming the government **[01:21:48.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001946) dahil nangyayari ito **[01:21:50.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001947) pero if you will look po **[01:21:51.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001948) that is a valid concern **[01:21:53.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001949) na Senator Francis **[01:21:55.220] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001950) ano po **[01:21:55.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001951) sapagkat na **[01:21:57.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001952) dun tinitingnan po **[01:21:58.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001953) po namin **[01:21:58.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001954) talagang may mga **[01:21:59.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001955) signals eh **[01:22:00.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001956) halo-halo na po to **[01:22:01.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001957) meron talagang **[01:22:02.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001958) NBA group **[01:22:03.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001959) meron naman po **[01:22:04.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001960) mga lurkers na tinatawag **[01:22:06.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001961) na **[01:22:06.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001962) kinokopia lang ito **[01:22:08.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001963) meron as simple as **[01:22:09.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001964) yung estudyante **[01:22:10.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001965) hindi nakagawa ng homework **[01:22:11.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001966) magsasabi na may **[01:22:13.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001967) shooting na mangyayari **[01:22:14.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001968) so those are the things **[01:22:16.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001969) that we want to monitor **[01:22:18.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001970) as a team **[01:22:19.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001971) within the family of DOJ **[01:22:20.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001972) and of course **[01:22:21.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001973) ang NBI po **[01:22:22.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001974) we want to be **[01:22:24.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001975) very active on this one **[01:22:26.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001976) meron po kaming mga ehente **[01:22:28.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001977) na kayang gawin ito **[01:22:29.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001978) but we are really **[01:22:30.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001979) lacking of the tools **[01:22:32.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001980) that we need **[01:22:32.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001981) and I was just happy to say **[01:22:34.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001982) yung iba pong tools namin **[01:22:36.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001983) we have private partners **[01:22:37.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001984) like **[01:22:37.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001985) Philip Morris **[01:22:39.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001986) that they were very happy **[01:22:40.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001987) with our **[01:22:40.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001988) performance **[01:22:42.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001989) dun po sa agriculture smuggling **[01:22:43.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001990) that they are donating **[01:22:44.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001991) drones for us **[01:22:46.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001992) to use for our **[01:22:47.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001993) crime fighting **[01:22:48.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001994) so **[01:22:48.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001995) sana po **[01:22:50.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001996) yung gobyerno natin mismo **[01:22:51.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001997) through your help **[01:22:52.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001998) we're able to raise **[01:22:54.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-001999) the funds that we need **[01:22:55.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002000) and **[01:22:56.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002001) you have our commitment **[01:22:57.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002002) that we will use it **[01:22:58.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002003) for this purpose **[01:22:59.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002004) so that sigurado tayo **[01:23:01.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002005) yung ating pong mga electoral process **[01:23:05.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002006) will not be manipulated **[01:23:06.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002007) yung ating pong judicial process **[01:23:08.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002008) senate process **[01:23:09.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002009) will not be manipulated **[01:23:10.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002010) by the people **[01:23:12.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002011) who have the edge **[01:23:13.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002012) sa social media po natin **[01:23:15.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002013) sa cyberspace **[01:23:16.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002014) because they are being supported by **[01:23:18.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002015) a powerful group somehow **[01:23:20.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002016) you know you said that no **[01:23:23.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002017) sa akin **[01:23:24.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002018) it's bad enough kung lokal **[01:23:25.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002019) I mean hindi dapat diba **[01:23:28.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002020) worse kung **[01:23:29.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002021) kung **[01:23:30.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002022) foreign **[01:23:32.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002023) ang nangingelam sa atin dito **[01:23:34.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002024) diba **[01:23:35.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002025) and that's why **[01:23:36.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002026) you need **[01:23:37.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002027) we need to beef up your **[01:23:39.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002028) capacity **[01:23:40.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002029) diba **[01:23:40.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002030) to be able to check **[01:23:42.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002031) and **[01:23:43.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002032) counter **[01:23:44.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002033) and **[01:23:44.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002034) and **[01:23:46.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002035) make the necessary arrests **[01:23:48.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002036) you know **[01:23:49.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002037) findings and arrests **[01:23:50.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002038) and **[01:23:51.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002039) address itong mga issues **[01:23:53.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002040) kung talagang **[01:23:54.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002041) yun na nga **[01:23:54.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002042) merong foreign hand **[01:23:56.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002043) no **[01:23:56.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002044) you wish to say something **[01:23:59.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002045) yes if I may **[01:24:00.460] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002046) for the department of justice **[01:24:04.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002047) we share **[01:24:06.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002048) probably the agony **[01:24:09.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002049) or the difficulty of the DBM **[01:24:10.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002050) in allocating **[01:24:13.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002051) the finite resources of the government **[01:24:15.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002052) but we confirm **[01:24:17.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002053) the women and men of the department of justice **[01:24:20.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002054) each attached agencies **[01:24:21.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002055) will fulfill its mandate **[01:24:22.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002056) whatever the resources will be shared with us **[01:24:25.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002057) or whatever will be shared with us **[01:24:26.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002058) whatever will be allowed **[01:24:27.340] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002059) but we also confirm **[01:24:28.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002060) that we definitely **[01:24:30.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002061) need **[01:24:31.380] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002062) to conduct **[01:24:33.100] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002063) these confidential activities **[01:24:34.580] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002064) so that **[01:24:35.340] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002065) so that we will **[01:24:36.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002066) completely **[01:24:38.100] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002067) fulfill our mandates **[01:24:39.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002068) your honors **[01:24:40.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002069) and we submit to the **[01:24:41.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002070) good sense of the senate **[01:24:43.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002071) and the congress **[01:24:44.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002072) on how we will be funded **[01:24:46.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002073) on all these requests **[01:24:47.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002074) your honors **[01:24:47.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002075) thank you secretary **[01:24:49.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002076) go ahead sir **[01:24:50.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002077) thank you **[01:24:51.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002078) anyway **[01:24:51.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002079) just to continue **[01:24:54.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002080) siguro we need to **[01:24:56.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002081) strengthen the **[01:24:57.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002082) cyber **[01:24:58.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002083) cyber unit **[01:25:01.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002084) yung anti-cyber crime **[01:25:03.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002085) cyber fraud **[01:25:04.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002086) cyber libel units **[01:25:05.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002087) of all departments **[01:25:06.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002088) lalo na PNP **[01:25:07.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002089) and of course NBI **[01:25:08.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002090) considering that **[01:25:10.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002091) in this **[01:25:11.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002092) day and modern age **[01:25:12.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002093) it's **[01:25:12.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002094) sabi ko **[01:25:13.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002095) clear and present **[01:25:14.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002096) danger na ito lahat eh **[01:25:15.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002097) halos lahat **[01:25:16.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002098) fraud **[01:25:17.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002099) online na **[01:25:19.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002100) no **[01:25:19.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002101) and kaya yung sinabi **[01:25:21.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002102) ng ating pong chairman **[01:25:22.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002103) yung what happens **[01:25:24.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002104) ang problema nun **[01:25:26.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002105) sometimes **[01:25:26.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002106) they're already **[01:25:27.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002107) itong too much freedom **[01:25:28.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002108) also **[01:25:29.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002109) sama kayong **[01:25:30.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002110) meron sila nung **[01:25:31.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002111) ganung **[01:25:32.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002112) luxury **[01:25:34.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002113) kaya lang **[01:25:36.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002114) sometimes it's **[01:25:37.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002115) boarding already **[01:25:38.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002116) on **[01:25:38.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002117) meron si Dishon **[01:25:39.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002118) yung mga anti-government **[01:25:41.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002119) but **[01:25:41.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002120) ano na eh **[01:25:42.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002121) dapat **[01:25:42.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002122) it's not helping **[01:25:44.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002123) our country as a whole **[01:25:46.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002124) I think we are also **[01:25:47.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002125) victims of this **[01:25:48.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002126) kaming mga politiko **[01:25:49.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002127) hindi nalang **[01:25:50.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002128) pinapansin kasi **[01:25:51.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002129) tabaho nalang **[01:25:52.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002130) pero **[01:25:52.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002131) yung pa **[01:25:53.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002132) for example **[01:25:54.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002133) yung sinasabi **[01:25:56.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002134) niya **[01:25:56.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002135) setor pangilina **[01:25:56.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002136) na merong foreign **[01:25:58.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002137) it is possible **[01:25:59.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002138) attorney Melvin **[01:26:01.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002139) and may director **[01:26:02.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002140) yung foreign **[01:26:04.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002141) funding **[01:26:05.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002142) is it possible **[01:26:05.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002143) that they are funding **[01:26:06.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002144) efforts **[01:26:08.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002145) to discredit **[01:26:09.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002146) the government **[01:26:10.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002147) as **[01:26:10.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002148) some of the **[01:26:12.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002149) personalities **[01:26:12.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002150) that are **[01:26:14.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002151) identified **[01:26:14.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002152) that are against **[01:26:16.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002153) their government **[01:26:16.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002154) for example **[01:26:17.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002155) with the issue **[01:26:18.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002156) of West Philippine Sea **[01:26:19.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002157) pakinamdam ko **[01:26:20.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002158) marami rito sa mga **[01:26:21.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002159) trolls at warriors **[01:26:23.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002160) ay funded by China **[01:26:24.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002161) and the same time **[01:26:25.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002162) of course **[01:26:25.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002163) opposition **[01:26:27.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002164) yung nasa **[01:26:28.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002165) iba-ibang ano rin **[01:26:29.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002166) sa politika **[01:26:30.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002167) but **[01:26:30.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002168) is it possible **[01:26:31.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002169) that they are **[01:26:32.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002170) funding this **[01:26:33.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002171) and can we monitor **[01:26:36.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002172) that **[01:26:36.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002173) indeed **[01:26:37.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002174) an external **[01:26:38.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002175) or a **[01:26:38.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002176) foreign **[01:26:39.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002177) funding **[01:26:42.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002178) is being **[01:26:42.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002179) used **[01:26:44.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002180) to fund **[01:26:45.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002181) itong mga **[01:26:46.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002182) for social **[01:26:47.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002183) media activities **[01:26:48.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002184) well **[01:26:50.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002185) thank you po **[01:26:50.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002186) Mr. Chair **[01:26:52.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002187) we have **[01:26:53.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002188) strong **[01:26:53.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002189) indication **[01:26:54.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002190) that our **[01:26:55.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002191) information **[01:26:56.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002192) manipulation **[01:26:56.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002193) and interference **[01:26:57.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002194) by **[01:26:58.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002195) foreign entities **[01:27:00.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002196) not necessarily **[01:27:01.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002197) the government **[01:27:03.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002198) but **[01:27:03.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002199) there is **[01:27:06.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002200) an effort **[01:27:07.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002201) to do that **[01:27:08.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002202) because **[01:27:08.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002203) pag tinusundan po namin **[01:27:11.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002204) nakikita namin **[01:27:12.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002205) papunta rin sa **[01:27:13.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002206) direction na yon **[01:27:14.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002207) at hindi na lang po yon **[01:27:16.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002208) let's not say na **[01:27:18.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002209) foreign government **[01:27:19.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002210) or **[01:27:19.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002211) foreign sovereign **[01:27:21.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002212) there are **[01:27:22.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002213) organized crimes **[01:27:23.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002214) related **[01:27:24.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002215) transnational **[01:27:25.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002216) foreign po **[01:27:26.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002217) na talagang **[01:27:28.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002218) openly **[01:27:28.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002219) ginagawa po to **[01:27:29.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002220) sa **[01:27:30.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002221) hindi na po yung **[01:27:32.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002222) paninira sa gobyerno **[01:27:33.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002223) but **[01:27:33.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002224) yung **[01:27:34.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002225) cyber scam **[01:27:35.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002226) yung po mga ginagawa **[01:27:36.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002227) that is **[01:27:37.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002228) directly affect **[01:27:38.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002229) and impact **[01:27:39.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002230) the economics **[01:27:40.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002231) of the government **[01:27:41.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002232) and even politically **[01:27:42.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002233) will affect that **[01:27:43.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002234) I mentioned earlier **[01:27:44.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002235) that the **[01:27:45.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002236) election **[01:27:45.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002237) 2028 is coming **[01:27:47.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002238) there can be **[01:27:48.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002239) conditioning **[01:27:49.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002240) being used **[01:27:50.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002241) the platform **[01:27:50.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002242) na funded by **[01:27:52.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002243) a foreign entity **[01:27:53.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002244) not necessarily **[01:27:54.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002245) again the foreign **[01:27:55.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002246) sovereign **[01:27:55.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002247) pero **[01:27:56.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002248) there are strong **[01:27:57.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002249) indications **[01:27:57.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002250) and **[01:27:58.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002251) yan po siguro **[01:28:00.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002252) if I may share **[01:28:01.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002253) yesterday **[01:28:02.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002254) mula Monday **[01:28:03.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002255) hanggang po nung **[01:28:04.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002256) yesterday **[01:28:05.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002257) I was attending **[01:28:06.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002258) the **[01:28:07.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002259) transnational **[01:28:09.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002260) convention **[01:28:10.020] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002261) sponsored by **[01:28:10.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002262) Homeland Security **[01:28:13.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002263) at tayo lang po **[01:28:14.220] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002264) yung nandon **[01:28:14.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002265) it's the effort **[01:28:16.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002266) ng Homeland Security **[01:28:17.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002267) ng US **[01:28:18.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002268) by the **[01:28:19.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002269) NBI **[01:28:19.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002270) together with **[01:28:20.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002271) some agents **[01:28:21.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002272) from immigration **[01:28:22.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002273) we are **[01:28:24.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002274) in the direction **[01:28:25.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002275) of **[01:28:25.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002276) putting up **[01:28:26.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002277) a trans **[01:28:26.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002278) national crime **[01:28:28.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002279) investigation unit **[01:28:29.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002280) and we will **[01:28:31.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002281) there will be **[01:28:31.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002282) helping us **[01:28:32.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002283) okay lang po **[01:28:32.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002284) kung may foreign **[01:28:33.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002285) intervention **[01:28:33.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002286) na tumutulong **[01:28:34.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002287) sa atin eh **[01:28:35.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002288) yung hindi **[01:28:36.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002289) nakakasama **[01:28:36.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002290) to fight **[01:28:37.900] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002291) ang target po nito **[01:28:39.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002292) is to fight **[01:28:39.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002293) yung mga syndicate **[01:28:40.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002294) nga **[01:28:40.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002295) organized crimes **[01:28:41.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002296) ng iba't ibang **[01:28:42.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002297) bansa **[01:28:42.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002298) meron po kasing **[01:28:44.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002299) mga target sila **[01:28:45.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002300) that they will **[01:28:46.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002301) recruit Filipino **[01:28:46.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002302) bring it to the **[01:28:48.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002303) golden triangle **[01:28:48.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002304) pass through Bangkok **[01:28:50.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002305) eto po yung mga **[01:28:51.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002306) address natin **[01:28:52.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002307) and this group **[01:28:53.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002308) pag tinitingnan po **[01:28:55.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002309) they're not **[01:28:55.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002310) they're the one **[01:28:55.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002311) funding also **[01:28:56.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002312) kung ano po yung **[01:28:57.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002313) pwedeng maging mga gulo **[01:28:58.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002314) dun sa bansa na **[01:28:59.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002315) tinatarget po nila **[01:29:01.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002316) so yung pong **[01:29:02.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002317) sabakal namin na **[01:29:03.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002318) ni Ray **[01:29:04.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002319) there's an indication **[01:29:05.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002320) that is a foreign **[01:29:06.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002321) intervention **[01:29:07.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002322) marami po **[01:29:08.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002323) well yung **[01:29:09.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002324) marami **[01:29:10.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002325) alam ng **[01:29:12.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002326) DA yan **[01:29:14.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002327) at ng BOC **[01:29:15.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002328) yung agriculture **[01:29:16.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002329) smuggling **[01:29:17.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002330) lahat ng **[01:29:18.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002331) kumpanya na **[01:29:19.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002332) na may **[01:29:21.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002333) meron **[01:29:21.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002334) foreign companies **[01:29:22.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002335) na exporter **[01:29:23.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002336) puro China eh **[01:29:25.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002337) Fujian **[01:29:25.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002338) tapos ang sistema **[01:29:27.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002339) bibilhin doon **[01:29:28.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002340) sindikato **[01:29:29.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002341) bibilhin **[01:29:31.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002342) ng salvage value **[01:29:33.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002343) ibig sabihin patapon na **[01:29:34.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002344) yung **[01:29:36.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002345) shelf life niya **[01:29:38.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002346) paso na **[01:29:38.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002347) diba **[01:29:39.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002348) unfit na for human consumption **[01:29:41.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002349) bibilhin doon **[01:29:42.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002350) dadalhin dito **[01:29:44.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002351) Chinese company **[01:29:45.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002352) mekasabot dito **[01:29:47.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002353) tapos **[01:29:48.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002354) dadalhin sa **[01:29:50.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002355) warehouse **[01:29:51.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002356) huhugasan ng formalin **[01:29:53.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002357) yung manok **[01:29:54.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002358) tapos **[01:29:55.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002359) inalabas at dadalhin **[01:29:56.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002360) sa mga palengke **[01:29:57.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002361) yan lang po yung **[01:29:59.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002362) kahuhuli namin **[01:30:00.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002363) the other day, **[01:30:01.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002364) salt-based na po yung manok, **[01:30:03.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002365) kinugasan, **[01:30:03.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002366) nahuli po namin. **[01:30:04.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002367) Yes, **[01:30:05.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002368) tapos binibenta ng 120 daw, **[01:30:07.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002369) peso sa kilo. **[01:30:07.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002370) Tama po, **[01:30:08.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002371) tama po. **[01:30:09.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002372) Sindikatong kamatang... **[01:30:10.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002373) Sa Facebook pa po ginagamit, **[01:30:12.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002374) sa social media pa po yung transaction, **[01:30:14.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002375) Senator. **[01:30:15.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002376) So, talagang matindi, **[01:30:17.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002377) matindi ang kalaban, **[01:30:19.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002378) ikaw nga, **[01:30:19.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002379) na kailangan talagang natin **[01:30:21.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002380) supportahan yung ating law enforcement **[01:30:23.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002381) and ating justice system. **[01:30:26.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002382) Go ahead, Sir. **[01:30:27.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002383) Just to continue, **[01:30:27.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002384) kanina nabanggit nyo, **[01:30:29.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002385) Director Matibag, **[01:30:30.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002386) yung inyo pong operation, **[01:30:32.140] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002387) 100 to 200, **[01:30:35.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002388) ang operation nyo. **[01:30:38.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002389) Ito yung mga confidential, **[01:30:40.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002390) investigative. **[01:30:41.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002391) Magkano po yung... **[01:30:43.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002392) Ano nyan? **[01:30:44.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002393) Estimate, **[01:30:45.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002394) not the expense, **[01:30:46.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002395) just to give us an idea. **[01:30:47.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002396) Kasi nga, **[01:30:49.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002397) your confidential fund **[01:30:52.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002398) was slashed considerably **[01:30:54.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002399) compared for 2027. **[01:30:56.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002400) So, nabanggit nyo, **[01:30:57.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002401) grabe pala, **[01:30:58.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002402) 200. **[01:30:59.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002403) 100 to 200 operations monthly. **[01:31:02.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002404) Sige po. **[01:31:03.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002405) I-advise na lang po natin, **[01:31:05.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002406) Mr. Chair, **[01:31:05.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002407) sa 200,000 per operation. **[01:31:07.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002408) Kasi kasama po dyan yung transportation, **[01:31:10.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002409) yung hotel, **[01:31:11.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002410) saka po yung sa information doon. **[01:31:12.900] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002411) Sa mga ano po natin, **[01:31:14.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002412) assets natin, **[01:31:15.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002413) yung mga intelligence report po, **[01:31:17.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002414) sa average na lang po na 200. **[01:31:19.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002415) Kung 200, **[01:31:20.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002416) tapos 200 operations din lang po, **[01:31:22.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002417) that is already about 40 million. **[01:31:25.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002418) Aman po. **[01:31:25.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002419) And yung pong binigay sa amin na 300 **[01:31:27.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002420) last year, **[01:31:29.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002421) hinati po namin yun **[01:31:30.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002422) sa 25 million per month. **[01:31:32.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002423) So, doon pa lang po, **[01:31:33.400] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002424) makita na rin nyo yung difference. **[01:31:35.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002425) So, ginagawa ko na lang po dyan, **[01:31:37.280] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002426) yung co-plan po na ginagamit, **[01:31:39.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002427) instead minsan mag-aero plano, **[01:31:40.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002428) mag-barco na lang kayo. **[01:31:42.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002429) O, **[01:31:42.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002430) kung instead na titira kayo, **[01:31:44.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002431) dito sa ganitong lugar, **[01:31:46.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002432) ganito na lang, **[01:31:47.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002433) mas malapit din. **[01:31:48.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002434) Instead na we will send 20 operatives, **[01:31:51.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002435) kalahati na lang po yung ipapadala namin. **[01:31:52.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002436) Ganun po yung pinagtatama namin. **[01:31:55.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002437) And I have to admit, **[01:31:56.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002438) meron pong mga halimbawa, **[01:31:58.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002439) like yun nga, **[01:31:58.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002440) like Philip Morris will help us, **[01:32:01.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002441) hindi naman po directly magbigay, **[01:32:03.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002442) kundi they will provide **[01:32:04.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002443) for food provisions. **[01:32:06.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002444) I'd like to commend also PCSO and PagCorp **[01:32:08.820] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002445) that when it comes doon po sa scam, **[01:32:11.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002446) especially yung mga illegal operations **[01:32:13.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002447) pa ng Pogo at illegal gambling, **[01:32:15.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002448) they're also helping us. **[01:32:17.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002449) And of course, **[01:32:17.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002450) DOJ po, **[01:32:18.960] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002451) doon po sa binibigay sa kanila na **[01:32:20.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002452) confidential funds, **[01:32:22.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002453) si Secretary will also share. **[01:32:23.840] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002454) Pag sinabi ko, **[01:32:24.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002455) Sek, meron kaming operations pa na ganito, **[01:32:26.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002456) medyo kulang, **[01:32:28.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002457) eh, **[01:32:28.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002458) nakakapag-magic naman po **[01:32:29.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002459) si Secretary Vida, **[01:32:31.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002460) tinutulungan po kami. **[01:32:33.220] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002461) Sa, **[01:32:33.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002462) sa ano naman po, **[01:32:34.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002463) sa immigration, **[01:32:35.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002464) pag yung may punitive kaming **[01:32:37.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002465) hulihin, **[01:32:39.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002466) tulong na lang po, **[01:32:40.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002467) hati na lang po sa manpower **[01:32:41.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002468) yung ginagawa po namin. **[01:32:42.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002469) So, **[01:32:43.560] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002470) pinagtatama na po, **[01:32:44.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002471) I'm just fortunate **[01:32:45.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002472) and I have to commend lang **[01:32:46.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002473) the men and women of the **[01:32:47.620] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002474) National Bureau of Investigation **[01:32:48.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002475) that, **[01:32:49.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002476) kahit na po ganun eh, **[01:32:51.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002477) professional, **[01:32:52.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002478) na ginagawa po yung trabaho nila. **[01:32:54.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002479) If I may add? **[01:32:55.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002480) Yes, **[01:32:55.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002481) sa Secretary Vida. **[01:32:57.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002482) We're at a height, **[01:32:58.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002483) po, **[01:32:59.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002484) yung inter, **[01:33:00.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002485) yung engagement namin, **[01:33:01.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002486) BI, **[01:33:02.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002487) the NBI, **[01:33:03.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002488) and the DOJ, **[01:33:04.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002489) for **[01:33:05.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002490) several decades now, **[01:33:07.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002491) wala po tayong nakakasuhan **[01:33:09.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002492) sa agricultural smuggling. **[01:33:11.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002493) Opo, **[01:33:12.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002494) ngayon lang po tayo nagsimula. **[01:33:13.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002495) Totoo po yung data natin, **[01:33:15.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002496) na 45 yung cases na nirefer, **[01:33:18.340] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002497) 35 binalik namin **[01:33:19.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002498) for case build-up. **[01:33:21.100] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002499) Pero, **[01:33:21.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002500) that's already a positive sign. **[01:33:23.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002501) We've, **[01:33:23.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002502) we've gone a long way po **[01:33:25.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002503) on this. **[01:33:26.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002504) And, **[01:33:26.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002505) sa reports po na naririnig namin, **[01:33:28.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002506) from, **[01:33:29.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002507) from the DOF, **[01:33:30.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002508) it's also triggering **[01:33:31.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002509) a parallel **[01:33:32.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002510) or a correlated increase **[01:33:34.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002511) in excise taxes payments. **[01:33:37.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002512) May, **[01:33:38.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002513) may effect po. **[01:33:38.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002514) I, **[01:33:39.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002515) I don't have the data, **[01:33:40.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002516) but, **[01:33:40.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002517) but I've heard that **[01:33:41.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002518) from the DOF po, **[01:33:43.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002519) na meron po talagang effect po. **[01:33:44.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002520) When we push for all these **[01:33:46.420] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002521) operations, **[01:33:48.100] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002522) yung smuggling, **[01:33:49.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002523) yung collections sila ng taxes, **[01:33:50.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002524) gumaganda rin po. **[01:33:52.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002525) And hopefully, **[01:33:52.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002526) we, **[01:33:53.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002527) we go into that. **[01:33:54.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002528) That no one is above the law, **[01:33:56.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002529) that everyone follows the law. **[01:33:57.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002530) Kung kailangan magbayad ng taxes, **[01:33:58.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002531) magbayad ng taxes. **[01:34:00.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002532) With the permission of Senator JV, **[01:34:02.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002533) we will confirm that. **[01:34:03.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002534) Because sa BOC, **[01:34:04.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002535) itong year na ito, **[01:34:06.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002536) ang taas nung bayad ng taripa **[01:34:07.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002537) sa karneng baboy. **[01:34:10.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002538) Kasi talagang, **[01:34:11.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002539) last year, **[01:34:12.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002540) pinupukpuk namin talaga yung **[01:34:15.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002541) usapin ng **[01:34:16.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002542) agri-smuggling. **[01:34:19.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002543) So yun, **[01:34:19.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002544) as you say, **[01:34:20.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002545) natakot gumawa ng kalukuhan, **[01:34:23.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002546) nagbayad, **[01:34:24.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002547) nire-report ngayon yung **[01:34:26.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002548) yung tamang buis, **[01:34:27.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002549) yung tamang, **[01:34:28.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002550) yung tamang volume **[01:34:29.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002551) at nagbabayad ng tamang buis. **[01:34:31.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002552) I think, **[01:34:32.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002553) parang five-fold increase **[01:34:34.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002554) sa collections ng taripa **[01:34:36.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002555) sa karneng imported **[01:34:40.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002556) dahil nga dun sa **[01:34:42.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002557) takot na **[01:34:44.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002558) baka makumpis ka **[01:34:45.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002559) dahil hindi nagbabayad **[01:34:46.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002560) ng tamang buis. **[01:34:48.940] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002561) Yes? **[01:34:49.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002562) Yes, sir? **[01:34:50.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002563) I would like to **[01:34:51.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002564) jump in and add **[01:34:52.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002565) doon po kay Mr. Chair, **[01:34:54.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002566) kay Secretary Bidang sinabi. **[01:34:55.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002567) In fact, **[01:34:56.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002568) ang Philip Morris po, **[01:34:57.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002569) we're very thankful **[01:34:58.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002570) na Tumas, **[01:34:58.800] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002571) natin po yung **[01:34:59.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002572) yung kanilang sales **[01:35:00.720] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002573) after po natin **[01:35:01.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002574) yung mga huli. **[01:35:02.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002575) And I have instruction **[01:35:04.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002576) po doon sa nahuli **[01:35:05.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002577) dito sa field. **[01:35:06.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002578) We are not filing cases **[01:35:07.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002579) doon po sa nahuli **[01:35:08.480] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002580) na driver at pahinante. **[01:35:10.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002581) We are filing a case po **[01:35:11.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002582) doon po sa operator **[01:35:12.140] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002583) nung port na **[01:35:13.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002584) pinagdaanan po **[01:35:13.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002585) a private port. **[01:35:15.080] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002586) So, **[01:35:15.700] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002587) on the process po **[01:35:16.600] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002588) yung pagpapile niyan. **[01:35:17.660] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002589) Yung may-ari **[01:35:18.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002590) nung port? **[01:35:19.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002591) Yung may-ari po **[01:35:20.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002592) nung port mismo, **[01:35:21.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002593) yung buong **[01:35:21.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002594) nasa GIS po **[01:35:23.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002595) ng SEC, **[01:35:24.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002596) I have instruction **[01:35:25.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002597) to file cases **[01:35:26.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002598) against them **[01:35:26.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002599) dahil **[01:35:27.020] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002600) possibly naman po **[01:35:28.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002601) dumating doon **[01:35:28.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002602) yung goods **[01:35:29.160] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002603) ng walang kamalayan **[01:35:30.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002604) po saan nila. **[01:35:31.260] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002605) Sige, **[01:35:31.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002606) we will follow, **[01:35:32.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002607) we will monitor. **[01:35:33.580] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-002608) Yes po. **[01:35:34.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002609) Director. **[01:35:34.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-002610) Go ahead, sir. **[01:35:36.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002611) Okay, **[01:35:36.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002612) tungkol din nyo. **[01:35:39.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002613) Mabuti na rin **[01:35:40.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002614) pinasok yung smuggling **[01:35:41.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002615) ng sigaret. **[01:35:42.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002616) So, **[01:35:42.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002617) director, **[01:35:43.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002618) kasi ano yan, **[01:35:44.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002619) it's a very big industry **[01:35:45.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002620) yung manufacturing **[01:35:46.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002621) and sale of **[01:35:46.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002622) fake cigarette **[01:35:48.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002623) and yung smuggling. **[01:35:50.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002624) No? **[01:35:51.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002625) Alam kong **[01:35:51.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002626) nagbibigay pa **[01:35:53.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002627) ng protection money **[01:35:54.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002628) parang 5 million **[01:35:55.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002629) a month, **[01:35:56.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002630) no? **[01:35:56.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002631) Sa ibang **[01:35:56.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002632) a month. **[01:35:58.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002633) Ang binibigay, **[01:35:59.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002634) ibig sabihin, **[01:35:59.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002635) malaking negosyo. **[01:36:00.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002636) So, **[01:36:00.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002637) malaking bagay na **[01:36:01.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002638) masabat **[01:36:04.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002639) para nang sa ganun **[01:36:04.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002640) pumasok sa gobyerno **[01:36:05.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002641) maging legal na, **[01:36:07.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002642) no? **[01:36:07.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002643) Anyway, **[01:36:08.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002644) just to continue, **[01:36:10.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002645) si Ekbida, **[01:36:10.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002646) sige, **[01:36:11.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002647) nagsabi rin si **[01:36:12.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002648) Senator, **[01:36:13.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002649) former **[01:36:13.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002650) President Dito Soto **[01:36:15.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002651) that he **[01:36:15.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002652) would **[01:36:16.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002653) support **[01:36:17.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002654) increase in the budget **[01:36:19.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002655) of the **[01:36:19.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002656) confidential funds **[01:36:21.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002657) to improve **[01:36:23.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002658) the investigation **[01:36:23.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002659) of cases **[01:36:26.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002660) of NBI **[01:36:27.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002661) and DOJ, **[01:36:27.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002662) no? **[01:36:28.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002663) So, **[01:36:28.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002664) siguro, **[01:36:28.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002665) si Ekbida, **[01:36:30.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002666) siguro, **[01:36:32.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002667) what we have to **[01:36:33.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002668) look for funding **[01:36:34.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002669) is anti-cybercrime **[01:36:36.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002670) confidential fund **[01:36:37.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002671) also, **[01:36:37.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002672) considering that **[01:36:38.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002673) a lot of cases **[01:36:39.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002674) now, **[01:36:40.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002675) cybercrime, **[01:36:41.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002676) cyberfraud, **[01:36:42.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002677) cyberlibel, **[01:36:43.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002678) very prevalent **[01:36:45.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002679) now. **[01:36:45.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002680) So, **[01:36:45.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002681) 475,000 **[01:36:47.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002682) as pointed out **[01:36:48.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002683) by **[01:36:48.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002684) Senator Lacson, **[01:36:49.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002685) saan tayo **[01:36:50.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002686) abutin ito, **[01:36:51.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002687) no? **[01:36:51.440] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002688) Sige po. **[01:36:52.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002689) A discussion **[01:36:54.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002690) of that 475,000. **[01:36:55.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002691) Kasi po, **[01:36:56.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002692) yung mandate po **[01:36:57.440] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002693) ng Office of the Cybercrime **[01:36:58.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002694) with the DOJ **[01:37:00.100] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002695) has already **[01:37:01.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002696) also scaled down **[01:37:02.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002697) with the creation **[01:37:03.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002698) of the CICC **[01:37:04.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002699) and also **[01:37:05.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002700) the ICT. **[01:37:06.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002701) That's why **[01:37:07.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002702) we don't want to ask **[01:37:08.580] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002703) what we **[01:37:09.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002704) don't need. **[01:37:10.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002705) Kaya lang yun lang po. **[01:37:11.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002706) Kasi limited na rin po **[01:37:12.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002707) yung operations **[01:37:13.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002708) ng aming **[01:37:14.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002709) Office of the Cybercrime. **[01:37:14.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002710) Ah, so CICC na. **[01:37:15.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002711) Ang malaki na po ngayon **[01:37:17.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002712) is yung sa law enforcement **[01:37:18.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002713) which is the NBI's **[01:37:20.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002714) more on TWGs, **[01:37:24.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002715) more on other aspects po. **[01:37:26.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002716) Which, **[01:37:27.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002717) I think **[01:37:28.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002718) the DOJ will always **[01:37:29.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002719) be consistent. **[01:37:30.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002720) Pag hindi po namin **[01:37:32.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002721) kailangan ng **[01:37:33.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002722) confidential fund, **[01:37:34.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002723) we will not ask for it. **[01:37:35.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002724) Kung ano lang po **[01:37:36.440] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002725) yung kailangan. **[01:37:37.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002726) Because we also would like **[01:37:38.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002727) to subscribe **[01:37:38.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002728) in the regular **[01:37:40.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002729) procurement process, **[01:37:41.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002730) in the regular **[01:37:41.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002731) liquidation of funds. **[01:37:44.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002732) We owe it to the public, **[01:37:45.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002733) Your Honors. **[01:37:47.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002734) And also, **[01:37:48.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002735) I'd like to thank you, **[01:37:49.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002736) no? **[01:37:49.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002737) Yung aside from **[01:37:51.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002738) Senator Pangilinan, **[01:37:52.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002739) who's of course **[01:37:52.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002740) definitely talagang **[01:37:53.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002741) advocacy **[01:37:54.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002742) sa agriculture. **[01:37:56.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002743) Maraming salamat **[01:37:56.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002744) na DOJ **[01:37:58.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002745) is now taking a lead role **[01:37:59.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002746) in the anti-agricultural **[01:38:02.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002747) smuggling, **[01:38:03.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002748) economic sabotage efforts. **[01:38:05.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002749) Malaking bagay. **[01:38:06.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002750) I just want to **[01:38:07.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002751) air my frustration **[01:38:08.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002752) because I think **[01:38:09.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002753) with this law **[01:38:10.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002754) was pasyo una, **[01:38:11.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002755) yung anti-agricultural **[01:38:12.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002756) smuggling. **[01:38:13.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002757) I was the principal **[01:38:14.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002758) author in 2016. **[01:38:16.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002759) Hanggang na **[01:38:17.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002760) amen po yan, **[01:38:18.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002761) wala hong nahuli **[01:38:19.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002762) ang BOC noon. **[01:38:21.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002763) That time. **[01:38:22.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002764) Parang walang **[01:38:23.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002765) big fish. **[01:38:24.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002766) Yun yung frustration **[01:38:26.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002767) namin. **[01:38:26.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002768) Kahit minsan, **[01:38:27.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002769) walang nahuling **[01:38:28.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002770) smuggler, **[01:38:29.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002771) 10 million lang **[01:38:30.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002772) ang threshold. **[01:38:34.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002773) So now, **[01:38:35.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002774) yung mga nabanggit nyo po **[01:38:37.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002775) na medyo marami **[01:38:38.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002776) na hong makakasuhan, **[01:38:39.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002777) that will definitely **[01:38:40.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002778) help **[01:38:40.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002779) increase the income **[01:38:43.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002780) to, **[01:38:45.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002781) of course, **[01:38:46.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002782) sa ating pong **[01:38:46.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002783) BOC **[01:38:48.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002784) and other agencies. **[01:38:49.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002785) And more than **[01:38:50.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002786) importantly, **[01:38:51.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002787) it will **[01:38:51.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002788) protect our farmers. **[01:38:53.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002789) Kasi pagpapasok po **[01:38:54.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002790) ang smuggled, **[01:38:55.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002791) na mga **[01:38:56.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002792) na mga **[01:38:58.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002793) agriculture products, **[01:38:59.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002794) it deprives **[01:39:01.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002795) our local farmers **[01:39:03.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002796) of income. **[01:39:04.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002797) Kaya nga, **[01:39:05.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002798) pinasanataan **[01:39:05.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002799) ng agriculture **[01:39:06.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002800) smuggling law. **[01:39:08.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002801) And eventually, **[01:39:09.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002802) nag-evolve naman sila. **[01:39:10.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002803) No? **[01:39:11.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002804) Naging left and right **[01:39:12.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002805) naman ng issuance **[01:39:13.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002806) ng **[01:39:13.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002807) import permit. **[01:39:16.140] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002808) So, **[01:39:16.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002809) nag-evolve. **[01:39:17.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002810) Kaya nga, **[01:39:17.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002811) anti-agriculture **[01:39:18.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002812) economic sabotage na. **[01:39:19.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002813) So, sana sa cartel, **[01:39:21.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002814) profiteering, **[01:39:22.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002815) and hoarding. **[01:39:23.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002816) Alam ko, **[01:39:23.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002817) BOC, **[01:39:24.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002818) ano yan, **[01:39:24.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002819) dapat. **[01:39:25.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002820) But, **[01:39:26.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002821) I think, **[01:39:26.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002822) yung anti-agriculture, **[01:39:27.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002823) or economic sabotage **[01:39:29.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002824) council, **[01:39:30.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002825) can help a lot. **[01:39:32.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002826) Ano yan? **[01:39:33.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002827) Masyadong, **[01:39:34.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002828) that's very close **[01:39:34.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002829) to the heart of our **[01:39:35.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002830) chairman, **[01:39:36.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002831) Central Pangilinan, **[01:39:37.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002832) sa agriculture. **[01:39:39.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002833) And also to me, **[01:39:39.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002834) kasi ako po **[01:39:40.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002835) ang nag-author **[01:39:41.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002836) ng dalawang batas na to, **[01:39:42.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002837) even the amendment. **[01:39:43.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002838) I would like it **[01:39:44.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002839) to be **[01:39:45.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002840) effective, **[01:39:47.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002841) kasi sayang naman **[01:39:48.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002842) na pinapasa natin. **[01:39:49.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002843) Tapos, **[01:39:50.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002844) wala rin mang nauhuli. **[01:39:51.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002845) Diba? **[01:39:52.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002846) So, **[01:39:52.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002847) that's a good development. **[01:39:53.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002848) Thank you, **[01:39:54.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002849) Secretary Vida, **[01:39:55.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002850) for mentioning that **[01:39:55.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002851) the DOJ is very much **[01:39:57.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002852) active, **[01:39:57.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002853) now, **[01:39:58.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002854) sa anti-agriculture **[01:39:59.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-002855) economic sabotage council. **[01:40:01.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002856) With your permission, **[01:40:03.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002857) may I ask **[01:40:03.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002858) PG Dong **[01:40:04.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002859) to give the **[01:40:05.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002860) para on **[01:40:06.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002861) so that it's on the record **[01:40:08.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002862) on this **[01:40:09.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002863) agricultural **[01:40:11.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002864) economic sabotage law, **[01:40:13.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002865) the performance **[01:40:13.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002866) we have done so far. **[01:40:15.380] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002867) Yes, **[01:40:15.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-002868) PG Fadullon. **[01:40:17.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002869) With the permission **[01:40:17.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002870) of the Secretary, **[01:40:18.760] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002871) Mr. Chairman, **[01:40:19.740] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002872) Honorable Senators, **[01:40:21.460] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002873) with the advent **[01:40:22.340] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002874) of RA 12022, **[01:40:24.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002875) this resulted **[01:40:26.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002876) to **[01:40:26.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002877) a total **[01:40:28.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002878) of about **[01:40:28.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002879) 58 cases, **[01:40:31.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002880) complaints filed **[01:40:32.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002881) with us. **[01:40:33.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002882) There have already **[01:40:34.120] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002883) been indictments. **[01:40:35.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002884) There have been **[01:40:36.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002885) 10 indictments **[01:40:37.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002886) and this values **[01:40:39.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002887) to something like **[01:40:40.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002888) 529 million **[01:40:42.280] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002889) 640, **[01:40:43.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002890) ah, **[01:40:44.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002891) 529 million **[01:40:45.400] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002892) 641 thousand **[01:40:46.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002893) 506 point 80. **[01:40:49.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002894) Total value **[01:40:50.660] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002895) of the goods **[01:40:51.240] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002896) ceased. **[01:40:51.840] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002897) Most of these, **[01:40:52.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002898) Mr. Chairman, **[01:40:54.240] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002899) are cigarettes, **[01:40:54.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002900) no? **[01:40:55.400] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002901) You need to make products. **[01:40:56.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002902) And, **[01:40:57.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002903) there were **[01:40:59.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002904) the other cases **[01:41:00.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002905) that were referred to us **[01:41:01.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002906) which were returned **[01:41:02.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002907) to the LEAS **[01:41:03.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002908) or the enforcement groups **[01:41:04.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002909) for the building up **[01:41:05.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002910) of cases **[01:41:06.340] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002911) for the **[01:41:08.040] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002912) for securing **[01:41:09.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002913) the necessary evidence **[01:41:10.780] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002914) for the prosecution **[01:41:11.660] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002915) and investigation. **[01:41:13.120] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002916) The total value **[01:41:14.180] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002917) of the goods **[01:41:15.460] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002918) ceased **[01:41:16.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002919) amounts to **[01:41:18.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002920) something like **[01:41:18.500] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002921) 2,339,714 **[01:41:22.900] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002922) and 148 pesos. **[01:41:25.760] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002923) Sa ngayon, **[01:41:26.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002924) po, **[01:41:27.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002925) most of these cases **[01:41:28.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002926) are being done **[01:41:29.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002927) by the department **[01:41:30.740] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002928) with the help of **[01:41:32.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002929) the Philippine National Police, **[01:41:34.140] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002930) the National Bureau of Investigation **[01:41:35.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002931) and the DOF. **[01:41:37.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002932) Ang isang bagay lang po **[01:41:39.500] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002933) sana namin **[01:41:40.140] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002934) na gustong ipaalam **[01:41:41.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002935) is that **[01:41:41.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002936) since the implementation **[01:41:43.180] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002937) at nagsisimula po tayo **[01:41:44.540] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002938) magkaroon ng maraming kaso **[01:41:46.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002939) na banggit po **[01:41:46.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002940) ni Director Matibag kanina **[01:41:48.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002941) na karamihan po rito **[01:41:49.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002942) ay tobacco products. **[01:41:51.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002943) Bakit po ganon? **[01:41:52.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002944) Yan po yung **[01:41:53.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002945) pinaka-prolific **[01:41:54.140] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002946) sa lahat po **[01:41:54.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002947) ng lugar **[01:41:55.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002948) na puntahan natin **[01:41:56.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002949) dito sa **[01:41:56.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002950) Pilipinas. **[01:41:58.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002951) In fact, **[01:41:59.040] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002952) again, **[01:41:59.760] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002953) it was mentioned **[01:42:01.180] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002954) that **[01:42:01.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002955) private entities **[01:42:03.380] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002956) like Philip Morris **[01:42:04.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002957) have engaged us **[01:42:05.740] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002958) to help **[01:42:06.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002959) and assist **[01:42:07.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002960) in **[01:42:08.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002961) capacitating **[01:42:09.380] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002962) our prosecutors, **[01:42:10.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002963) our law enforcement **[01:42:11.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002964) all over the country **[01:42:13.100] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002965) just so that **[01:42:14.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002966) the cases **[01:42:15.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002967) will not be centralized **[01:42:16.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002968) sa main office po. **[01:42:18.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002969) At kung halimbawang **[01:42:19.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002970) meron pong mga huli **[01:42:20.500] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002971) sa probinsya **[01:42:21.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002972) o sa iba-ibang **[01:42:22.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002973) regions, **[01:42:24.140] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002974) ang coordination **[01:42:24.900] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002975) at ang case build-up **[01:42:26.080] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002976) ay pwede na **[01:42:26.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002977) pong gawin **[01:42:27.180] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002978) doon sa regions. **[01:42:28.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002979) Ang prosecution po **[01:42:29.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002980) dito po sa Manila **[01:42:30.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002981) because all of these cases **[01:42:32.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002982) are being filed **[01:42:32.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002983) and prosecuted **[01:42:33.540] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002984) before the Court of Tax Appeals. **[01:42:35.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002985) So, **[01:42:36.340] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002986) with the help **[01:42:36.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002987) of kind-hearted **[01:42:38.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002988) benefactors, **[01:42:40.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002989) we're able to do this. **[01:42:42.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002990) The sad part, **[01:42:44.140] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002991) Mr. Chair, **[01:42:45.060] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002992) is that **[01:42:45.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002993) the budget **[01:42:46.960] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002994) for the **[01:42:48.080] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002995) implementation **[01:42:48.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002996) itong batas **[01:42:49.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002997) ay hindi pa ho **[01:42:50.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002998) nabababa. **[01:42:51.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-002999) And, **[01:42:52.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003000) I think this is also **[01:42:54.020] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003001) this also has **[01:42:55.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003002) repercussions. **[01:42:56.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003003) Over the year, **[01:42:58.500] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003004) we have discovered **[01:42:59.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003005) The Council, no? **[01:42:59.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003006) The Council? **[01:43:00.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003007) Yes, po. **[01:43:01.060] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003008) Wala pa po lumababa. **[01:43:02.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003009) And, **[01:43:03.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003010) this has resulted in **[01:43:05.280] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003011) this has an impact **[01:43:06.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003012) also in the implementation. **[01:43:08.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003013) Bakit po namin **[01:43:09.400] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003014) sinasabi yun? **[01:43:10.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003015) Dahil sa **[01:43:11.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003016) meron po tayong **[01:43:12.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003017) nadidiskubre **[01:43:13.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003018) na **[01:43:14.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003019) in the process **[01:43:15.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003020) of the seizures, **[01:43:17.200] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003021) nawawala po yung **[01:43:18.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003022) cigarettes, **[01:43:19.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003023) nawawala po yung **[01:43:20.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003024) sigarilyo, **[01:43:21.840] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003025) nawawa, **[01:43:22.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003026) nababawasan po yung **[01:43:23.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003027) mga produkto **[01:43:24.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003028) na nasisis. **[01:43:25.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003029) At, **[01:43:26.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003030) ang worst, **[01:43:26.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003031) may mga tao po tayo **[01:43:29.260] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003032) who are part of **[01:43:30.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003033) the enforcement group **[01:43:31.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003034) who become **[01:43:32.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003035) prey to this **[01:43:33.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003036) para nabibiktima rin sila. **[01:43:35.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003037) At, sila po, **[01:43:36.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003038) pati po sila, **[01:43:37.200] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003039) hindi na lang **[01:43:37.540] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003040) sigarilyo nawawala, **[01:43:38.660] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003041) pati na rin po yung **[01:43:39.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003042) mga humuhuli. **[01:43:41.060] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003043) They disappear. **[01:43:41.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003044) Pinag-aawayan pa nga **[01:43:42.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003045) TG Pajolion, **[01:43:44.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003046) ng HPG **[01:43:44.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003047) at BOC yan. **[01:43:46.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003048) Di ba, **[01:43:46.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003049) fake cigarette **[01:43:46.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003050) pinag-aawayan nila? **[01:43:47.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003051) Opo, opo. **[01:43:48.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003052) Totoo po yan. **[01:43:49.340] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003053) Sige po. **[01:43:49.980] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003054) So, there are instances **[01:43:51.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003055) that we feel **[01:43:52.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003056) the reason for this **[01:43:53.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003057) is because it's a very **[01:43:54.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003058) lucrative industry. **[01:43:56.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003059) It's very, **[01:43:56.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003060) very tempting **[01:43:57.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003061) when you have **[01:43:58.200] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003062) seizures na **[01:43:59.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003063) ang value is **[01:44:00.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003064) hundreds of millions, **[01:44:02.100] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003065) sometimes billions. **[01:44:04.400] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003066) When law enforcement, **[01:44:06.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003067) and we understand **[01:44:06.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003068) completely the predicament **[01:44:08.180] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003069) of the enforcement group, **[01:44:09.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003070) like the NBI **[01:44:10.760] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003071) and the PNP, **[01:44:12.040] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003072) it will be very difficult **[01:44:13.100] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003073) for them to enforce **[01:44:14.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003074) the law **[01:44:14.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003075) and to do operations **[01:44:16.780] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003076) if they are not provided **[01:44:18.500] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003077) the necessary resources. **[01:44:20.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003078) Ang nangyayari po, **[01:44:21.760] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003079) since the implementation **[01:44:23.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003080) of the law, **[01:44:25.240] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003081) nagkakanya-kanya ho eh. **[01:44:26.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003082) We do coordinate **[01:44:27.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003083) with each other, **[01:44:28.500] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003084) but in the process **[01:44:29.260] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003085) of implementation, **[01:44:30.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003086) the added responsibility **[01:44:31.540] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003087) being given **[01:44:32.500] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003088) to our enforcement group, **[01:44:34.380] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003089) they will have to shell out **[01:44:35.980] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003090) the resources needed **[01:44:37.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003091) for the operations. **[01:44:39.760] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003092) And I think **[01:44:40.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003093) if the budget **[01:44:41.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003094) is somehow released **[01:44:43.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003095) at an earlier time, **[01:44:45.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003096) it would minimize **[01:44:47.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003097) the temptation **[01:44:48.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003098) that some of our **[01:44:52.140] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003099) members of the **[01:44:55.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003100) mga scala, **[01:44:56.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003101) na kung tawagin natin, **[01:44:58.180] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003102) that they will be involved **[01:44:59.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003103) in **[01:44:59.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003104) ... **[01:45:00.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003105) You know, pag tatago, pagbabawas, pagbibenta, recycle, or totally, they will just disappear. **[01:45:09.020] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003106) So, yun lang po, gusto namin ipaalam, as far as the agricultural economic sabotage, **[01:45:15.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003107) we are working together with our enforcement agencies. **[01:45:21.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003108) We have a lot of seizures, and we are not focusing only on cigarettes. **[01:45:25.980] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003109) The only reason why cigarettes or tobacco is being highlighted now is because ito po yung pinakamadali na makita at nagsisirculate sa bansa. **[01:45:35.060] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003110) But we do operate also on other agricultural products. **[01:45:38.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003111) That will be all, Mr. Chairman. **[01:45:39.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003112) Thank you. **[01:45:41.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003113) Yes, before I wrap up for second round of Senator Lacson, siguro just, ano ko lang, dagdag ko lang kayo sa NBI, **[01:45:48.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003114) yung what from information we received, itong fake cigarettes, grabe pala. **[01:45:52.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003115) Chairman, ang grabe ang dinsa, lucrative business, no? **[01:45:55.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003116) Very lucrative. **[01:45:56.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003117) Siguro, noong napatay yung MITN, dumami naman yung illegal, kasi yung cheap cigarette na wala. **[01:46:03.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003118) Pero siguro, Director Batibag, yung ano lang may information, itong gumagawa ng fake cigarettes are mobile, no? **[01:46:11.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003119) Pag umiinit na yung lugar, lilipat, kaya ang hirap daw hanapin. **[01:46:15.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003120) Pero siguro, ano yan, more confidential funds, mahahanap nyo ba yun kahit mobile sila? **[01:46:22.060] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003121) Well, sabi naman po, in relation to, **[01:46:25.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003122) whatever that will be given to us, we will continue to do our mandate, ano po. **[01:46:33.860] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003123) Nakita po namin yung problema, tama po si PG Padulyon, ano po. **[01:46:38.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003124) Yung cigarettes kasi, dahil sa mataas yung buhis, tapos ibibenta nila ng mas mura, talagang mas malaki yung return sa kanila. **[01:46:46.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003125) Pero, we'll continue doing our mandate, smuggled, pati po yung locally manufactured, meron na po rin yan eh. **[01:46:53.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003126) But yung mga raw materials yan, saka yung equipment, **[01:46:55.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003127) na ginagamit niyan, galing pa rin po sa ibang bansayan. **[01:47:00.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003128) So, we continue to monitor it, we are relying on our human intel, **[01:47:04.520] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003129) and since CICC was mentioned kanina po ni Secretary Vida, tumutulong po sa amin ng CICC. **[01:47:11.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003130) We have a good coordination with CICC. **[01:47:14.360] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003131) They have the tools, the equipment, they don't have the law enforcement mandate, **[01:47:19.540] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003132) so nag-uusap naman po kami, even po doon sa ibang kaso. **[01:47:23.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003133) At with the permission of Secretary Vida, **[01:47:25.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003134) tingin ko na rin po, on Monday, September 28, **[01:47:29.500] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003135) ang DOJ po, ang Bureau of Customs, at ang NBI, **[01:47:32.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003136) we will sign a tripartite agreement, **[01:47:36.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003137) particularly addressing the smuggling po. **[01:47:39.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003138) Not only agricultural products, but not only cigarettes, **[01:47:42.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003139) but lahat po ng mga... **[01:47:44.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003140) Ba't hindi kasama ang DA? **[01:47:47.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003141) Secretary Vida, isa ba? **[01:47:48.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003142) Ito po muna yung... **[01:47:51.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003143) This is more for the case build-up. **[01:47:53.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003144) Kasi ang nakita po namin ngayon, **[01:47:55.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003145) pag may umakyat po sa akin for pet rev or ano, **[01:48:00.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003146) dismissed, dismissed. **[01:48:02.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003147) Kasi ang isa pong nalulungkot ako, **[01:48:05.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003148) dahil wala raw bill of lading, **[01:48:08.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003149) nadi-dismissed. **[01:48:08.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003150) Sabi ko, napakasimple, mga simpleng requirements, **[01:48:12.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003151) hindi masubmit ng ating mga kapatid mula sa Bureau. **[01:48:16.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003152) Is Attorney Ong here? **[01:48:18.460] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003153) No. **[01:48:19.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003154) Ah, Robert? **[01:48:20.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003155) Yes. **[01:48:20.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003156) Yeah? **[01:48:21.100] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-003157) No, Mr. Chair, he's not around. **[01:48:22.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003158) Wala? **[01:48:23.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003159) Oh, yeah. **[01:48:23.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003160) He confirms that. **[01:48:25.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003161) Yes. **[01:48:25.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003162) Kaya nga po ang amin po ngayong, ano, is to direct the BOC, **[01:48:32.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003163) its officials, its enforcers, **[01:48:35.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003164) really to man up and to basically to do the work, **[01:48:40.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003165) na yung case build-up po, kumplitohin. **[01:48:42.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003166) Hindi po namin ma-prosecute eh. **[01:48:44.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003167) Nahuli na, nasis na yung produkto, **[01:48:47.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003168) tapos sa dulo, dismiss lang yung kaso. **[01:48:50.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003169) In fact, sabi ni Attorney Ong, **[01:48:52.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003170) in our hearings against the agriculture smuggling, **[01:48:55.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003171) of the 90, **[01:48:58.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003172) sorry, **[01:48:59.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003173) of the 100 plus cases that were forwarded by the DOJ **[01:49:05.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003174) of apprehensions of agriculture products and smuggling products, **[01:49:12.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003175) 90 were dismissed. **[01:49:14.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003176) Yes. **[01:49:15.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003177) 90 cases. **[01:49:17.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003178) And the reason was that the BOC did not provide **[01:49:21.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003179) did not provide **[01:49:21.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003180) true copies, di ba? **[01:49:28.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003181) Yes. **[01:49:31.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003182) Yes, we confirmed that. **[01:49:33.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003183) Hindi. **[01:49:33.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003184) 90% of the cases, walang certified true copy. **[01:49:39.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003185) So, and then I told that to Attorney Ong. **[01:49:42.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003186) I said, **[01:49:42.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003187) pwede ba kayo mag-usap ng DOJ at ng BOC? **[01:49:46.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003188) Eh, kayo yung nagpa-prosecute. **[01:49:48.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003189) Tapos yung dokumentong galing sa... **[01:49:51.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003190) Simple-simple lang. **[01:49:51.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003191) Another thing, Sekretary, **[01:49:54.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003192) pag-aralan ninyo ng husto, **[01:49:57.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003193) nire-report sa media, **[01:49:59.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003194) kumpiskado, 9 million. **[01:50:02.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003195) Worth of agri-products, **[01:50:03.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003196) kumpiskado, 6 million. **[01:50:05.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003197) Sabi ko, ang convenient naman, **[01:50:07.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003198) puro below 10 million. **[01:50:09.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003199) Yeah. **[01:50:10.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003200) Wala, puro available. **[01:50:14.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003201) Di ba? Parang, ano to? **[01:50:18.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003202) Di ba? So, yun din, **[01:50:19.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003203) ang kinangan yung pag-aralan, di ba? **[01:50:21.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003204) Nakakaroon ng dagdag-bawas doon sa halaga. **[01:50:29.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003205) Go ahead, sir. Go ahead. **[01:50:30.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003206) Well, well, well. **[01:50:31.300] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003207) Binansiyon nyo lang po ay caught my attention **[01:50:33.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003208) because when I arrived po sa NBI, **[01:50:36.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003209) yung huli namin, more than 10 million lahat eh. **[01:50:38.680] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003210) We have onion, 37 million. **[01:50:40.980] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003211) So, yung manok po yata, 12 billion ngayon. **[01:50:43.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003212) Yun ang una ko tinitingnan eh. **[01:50:44.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003213) Pag nababasa ko sa dyaryo, magkano ito? **[01:50:46.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003214) Dahil kung mas mababa sa 10 million ito, **[01:50:49.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003215) drawing lang ito. **[01:50:50.000] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003216) Ah, yan po. **[01:50:51.420] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003217) Di ba? **[01:50:51.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003218) Pero meron pa nangyayari, **[01:50:53.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003219) nai-report ng 10 million, **[01:50:55.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003220) abab, pero pagdating doon sa kasuhan, **[01:50:59.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003221) ano, pumayat na. **[01:51:01.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003222) Kumaga, lumiit na na. **[01:51:03.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003223) Bumaba. **[01:51:05.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003224) Sen, if I may interject something. **[01:51:07.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003225) Yes, but, yeah. **[01:51:09.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003226) Very quickly lang because Senator Lacson has a second hand. **[01:51:12.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003227) Quickly lang po on this matter. **[01:51:13.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003228) We already initiated something. **[01:51:16.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003229) Other than that tripartite agreement, **[01:51:19.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003230) pag nagdi-dismiss po ako ngayon, **[01:51:21.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003231) petitions for review and PI, **[01:51:24.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003232) we also mandate, **[01:51:26.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003233) we give it back to the BOC or even the BIR **[01:51:30.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003234) to resubmit subject to the rules of prescription. **[01:51:34.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003235) To submit within a certain period of time, **[01:51:36.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003236) to resubmit the documents **[01:51:38.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003237) and to pursue the filing of cases **[01:51:41.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003238) against the possible, **[01:51:43.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003239) the individuals who would be responsible. **[01:51:46.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003240) And may engagement na rin po ako doon **[01:51:48.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003241) kay Ombudsman. **[01:51:49.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003242) Sabi niya, **[01:51:50.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003243) pag hindi nila kinumply, **[01:51:52.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003244) dereliction of duty. **[01:51:54.340] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003245) So, yun po ang push namin ngayon. **[01:51:56.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003246) So, meron na po kaming timelines **[01:51:58.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003247) na binigay doon sa mga officials. **[01:52:00.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003248) Identified naman po kasi **[01:52:02.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003249) kung sino yung mga officials na nag-file. **[01:52:06.440] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003250) What's frustrating po is **[01:52:07.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003251) as simple as a document, **[01:52:10.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003252) as a bill of lading, **[01:52:11.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003253) as simple document, **[01:52:12.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003254) as certified through copy, **[01:52:14.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003255) will cause the dismissal of the case. **[01:52:16.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003256) Forgive me, Secretary Vida, **[01:52:19.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003257) Director Matiba, **[01:52:20.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003258) I'm challenging you. **[01:52:21.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003259) These people are untouchable **[01:52:22.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003260) up to this point. **[01:52:26.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003261) We're talking of billions of pesos worth **[01:52:29.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003262) of smuggled goods being brought into our country **[01:52:31.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003263) whose quality is questionable, **[01:52:35.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003264) whose safety standards are **[01:52:37.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003265) obviously unclear. **[01:52:41.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003266) These are untouchable people. **[01:52:45.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003267) Prove to us, **[01:52:47.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003268) show us that they are not untouchable. **[01:52:48.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003269) Pakita nyo sa amin. **[01:52:50.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003270) Na itong mga bilyonaryong **[01:52:52.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003271) nagsasmuggle ng bilyong-bilyong halaga **[01:52:55.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003272) ng produktong agrikultura, **[01:52:57.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003273) kay baboy yan, **[01:52:58.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003274) kay gulay yan, **[01:53:00.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003275) manok. **[01:53:02.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003276) Patunayan nyo sa amin. **[01:53:05.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003277) Pakitanggilas po kayo **[01:53:06.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003278) na hindi sila untouchable. **[01:53:09.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003279) Patunayan natin. **[01:53:11.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003280) And I'm more than willing to **[01:53:13.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003281) support your budget **[01:53:16.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003282) as long as the bottom line is **[01:53:20.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003283) itong mga untouchable na mga smuggler **[01:53:22.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003284) tapos na dapat **[01:53:24.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003285) ang mga araw nila. **[01:53:26.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003286) Kawawa ang ating mga magsasaka, **[01:53:28.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003287) kawawa ang ating mga mangingisda, **[01:53:31.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003288) kawawa ang ating consumers **[01:53:33.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003289) na lahat **[01:53:34.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003290) ay **[01:53:36.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003291) nagdadaing dahil **[01:53:39.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003292) hindi na natin ma-afford **[01:53:41.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003293) yung murang pagkain, **[01:53:42.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003294) dahil hindi na makatanim **[01:53:44.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003295) ng maayos ang ating mga magsasakat **[01:53:46.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003296) at mangingisda, **[01:53:47.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003297) dahil itong mga smuggled na mga produkto, **[01:53:50.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003298) kapapasok sa atin, **[01:53:51.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003299) nilalason tayo. **[01:53:54.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003300) Winawasak ang ating food security. **[01:53:58.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003301) Pasensya na dahil **[01:53:59.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003302) we cannot do this. **[01:54:03.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003303) The Senate alone cannot do this. **[01:54:05.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003304) We need your help **[01:54:06.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003305) and we need **[01:54:07.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003306) pakita naman natin na **[01:54:11.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003307) itong mga untouchable **[01:54:12.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003308) ay hindi totoo, **[01:54:14.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003309) bilang na mga araw nila. **[01:54:16.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003310) If I may respond, **[01:54:18.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003311) Yes, please. **[01:54:19.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003312) The Department of Health, **[01:54:20.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003313) the Department of Justice **[01:54:21.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003314) under my leadership **[01:54:22.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003315) with all the 10 agencies **[01:54:24.060] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003316) is the primary law agency **[01:54:26.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003317) of the country. **[01:54:27.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003318) Isa lang kung pinangawakan natin **[01:54:29.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003319) rule of law. **[01:54:30.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003320) No one should be above the law **[01:54:31.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003321) and we only prosecute **[01:54:33.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003322) those who need to be prosecuted **[01:54:35.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003323) and we will **[01:54:36.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003324) not prosecute those. **[01:54:39.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003325) Batas lang po. **[01:54:40.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003326) And we've been doing this, **[01:54:42.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003327) sabi ng ibang komentator, **[01:54:44.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003328) may chilling effect daw. **[01:54:45.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003329) But I beg to disagree. **[01:54:47.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003330) It's not about chilling effect. **[01:54:48.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003331) Ito na ho talaga yung advent **[01:54:50.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003332) ng rule of law sa Pilipinas. **[01:54:52.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003333) Ito na po talaga **[01:54:53.620] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003334) ang dapat na norm **[01:54:54.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003335) kasi we owe it to the public, **[01:54:58.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003336) we owe it to the Filipinos, **[01:54:59.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003337) we owe it to the next generations, **[01:55:01.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003338) Your Honor. **[01:55:01.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003339) And the Department of Justice **[01:55:03.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003340) will be with you, **[01:55:04.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003341) with the Senate, **[01:55:05.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003342) in this. **[01:55:06.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003343) Sana ito na po yung norm. **[01:55:08.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003344) Ito na po talaga. **[01:55:09.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003345) Walang, walang yung, **[01:55:11.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003346) hindi titingnan yung pangalan, **[01:55:12.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003347) hindi titingnan yung malaki, **[01:55:14.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003348) maliit. **[01:55:15.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003349) Sundin lang natin yung batas. **[01:55:17.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003350) At yung po ang aming direksyon, **[01:55:19.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003351) mahal na, **[01:55:19.760] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003352) Senator. **[01:55:20.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003353) Maraming salamat. **[01:55:21.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003354) And just, **[01:55:22.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003355) very quickly, **[01:55:22.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003356) you have my commitment. **[01:55:23.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003357) If we have to meet every day, **[01:55:25.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003358) hanggang itong mga untouchable na ito, **[01:55:27.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003359) ay, **[01:55:28.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003360) ay, **[01:55:28.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003361) masampola na. **[01:55:31.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003362) You know, **[01:55:32.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003363) when we were, **[01:55:32.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003364) and this is my last point, **[01:55:33.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003365) when we went after them, **[01:55:35.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003366) hammer and tongs, **[01:55:37.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003367) in 2014, **[01:55:38.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003368) 2015, **[01:55:39.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003369) and we filed cases against them, **[01:55:42.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003370) we suspended their licenses, **[01:55:45.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003371) because we had the power to, **[01:55:47.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003372) we had monopoly, **[01:55:48.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003373) ang ano eh, **[01:55:49.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003374) in terms of importation, **[01:55:51.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003375) ang NFA noon. **[01:55:52.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003376) We brought down **[01:55:53.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003377) rice inflation **[01:55:55.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003378) to 0.8% **[01:55:56.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003379) from 15% **[01:55:58.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003380) in one year. **[01:55:59.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003381) In one year. **[01:56:00.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003382) Because we managed **[01:56:01.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003383) the rice supply. **[01:56:03.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003384) Itong mga kartel na ito, **[01:56:04.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003385) ginagamit nila, **[01:56:05.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003386) and this is, **[01:56:06.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003387) sabi, **[01:56:06.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003388) this is a cartel, **[01:56:07.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003389) are not private sector, **[01:56:08.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003390) kasamkot din dyan, **[01:56:09.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003391) ang ilang mga, **[01:56:10.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003392) kasabot din dyan, **[01:56:11.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003393) ang ilang mga gobyerno, **[01:56:12.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003394) nasa gobyerno. **[01:56:13.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003395) Diba? **[01:56:15.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003396) Nung na-control yung supply ng bigas, **[01:56:17.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003397) bumaba ang preso ng bigas, **[01:56:18.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003398) pag bumaba ang preso ng bigas, **[01:56:20.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003399) bababa ang preso ng iba pang mga produkto, **[01:56:23.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003400) inflation will be managed. **[01:56:26.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003401) It will be, **[01:56:27.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003402) it, **[01:56:27.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003403) rice inflation, **[01:56:29.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003404) whether going up or down, **[01:56:30.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003405) will bring down nationwide inflation. **[01:56:33.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003406) So we're actually talking of **[01:56:35.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003407) hunger of our people **[01:56:36.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003408) by enforcing the law. **[01:56:39.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003409) Poverty **[01:56:40.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003410) will continue to haunt us **[01:56:43.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003411) if we don't address **[01:56:44.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003412) the rule of law in our country. **[01:56:47.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003413) So I hope, **[01:56:48.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003414) I pray, **[01:56:49.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003415) na bago magtapos ang taon, **[01:56:52.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003416) or maybe in the next six months, **[01:56:54.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003417) makikita na natin **[01:56:55.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003418) yung mga untouchable ay **[01:56:57.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003419) nagbe-behave na **[01:56:59.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003420) at yung iba ay nakakulong na. **[01:57:02.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003421) Salamat, **[01:57:02.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003422) Secretary Vida, **[01:57:03.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003423) you have my support. **[01:57:05.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003424) Wala na, **[01:57:05.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003425) wala na akong tanong. **[01:57:06.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003426) Go ahead. **[01:57:09.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003427) Sige. **[01:57:09.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003428) Senator Ping, **[01:57:10.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003429) go ahead. **[01:57:10.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003430) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. **[01:57:12.000] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003431) Segway lang muna tayo **[01:57:12.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003432) para pambawas ng passion **[01:57:14.400] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003433) saka tension. **[01:57:16.540] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003434) Balikan ko lang yung topic kanina **[01:57:17.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003435) sa express lane. **[01:57:18.780] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003436) Bit of information. **[01:57:21.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003437) Under Special Provision No. 1 **[01:57:23.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003438) of the BI budget **[01:57:26.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003439) sa 2026 gaya ito. **[01:57:29.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003440) Yung express lane, **[01:57:31.580] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003441) 64% **[01:57:32.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003442) ng collection ninyo **[01:57:34.400] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003443) goes to overtime. **[01:57:37.160] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003444) Di ba? **[01:57:37.980] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003445) 25% goes to contractual. **[01:57:41.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003446) And 11%, **[01:57:42.520] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003447) yun ang naririmit sa **[01:57:44.180] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003448) Bureau of Treasury. **[01:57:46.460] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003449) My question is, **[01:57:47.400] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003450) let's, **[01:57:47.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003451) lahat ba niririmit nyo muna **[01:57:50.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003452) or **[01:57:50.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003453) binibigay nyo muna sa **[01:57:53.020] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003454) specific purposes, **[01:57:55.780] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003455) then you'll remit? **[01:57:56.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003456) Because in 2026, **[01:57:59.840] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003457) your actual receipts, **[01:58:02.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003458) ano, 2025 ito, **[01:58:04.200] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003459) as of December 31, **[01:58:06.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003460) actual receipts is **[01:58:07.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003461) 2,027,699,000. **[01:58:11.460] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003462) Ang actual expenditures, **[01:58:13.320] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003463) ito yung 92.6%. **[01:58:15.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003464) Now, **[01:58:16.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003465) meron kayong cash balance, **[01:58:17.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003466) na 346,400. **[01:58:21.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003467) Ito yung for remittance **[01:58:23.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003468) to the Bureau of Treasury. **[01:58:26.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003469) I go back to my previous question. **[01:58:28.500] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003470) Lahat ba muna niririmit nyo? **[01:58:29.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003471) Tapos saka **[01:58:30.820] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003472) ibinabalik sa inyo? **[01:58:32.540] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003473) Or it's the other way around? **[01:58:34.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003474) I may confer with my colleague, **[01:58:36.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003475) the head of our finance division. **[01:58:49.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003483) Your Honor, **[01:58:50.640] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003484) after makakakolekta mo namin **[01:58:52.460] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003485) yung 100%, **[01:58:53.400] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003486) kukunin po namin 64%, **[01:58:55.780] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003487) then the 25%, **[01:58:56.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003488) then directly po yung 11% **[01:58:58.340] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003489) to the National Treasury, **[01:58:59.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003490) Your Honor. **[01:58:59.860] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003491) Thank you for that. **[01:59:00.780] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003492) Now, **[01:59:01.300] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003493) another topic, **[01:59:02.620] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003494) last na ito, **[01:59:03.480] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003495) from this representation, **[01:59:06.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003496) I just wanna pick the brain **[01:59:07.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003497) of the secretary **[01:59:09.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003498) of the DOJ **[01:59:10.760] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003499) and the others **[01:59:11.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003500) na naandito. **[01:59:13.600] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003501) Yung proposal ni **[01:59:15.600] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003502) Secretary Jonvic **[01:59:17.580] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003503) Remulla, na ilipat **[01:59:19.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003504) yung BJMP sa **[01:59:21.160] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003505) Bucor. **[01:59:24.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003506) This may not need **[01:59:26.240] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003507) legislation kasi under **[01:59:27.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003508) the administrative code, pwede naman talaga **[01:59:29.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003509) yung presidente mag-reorganize, diba? **[01:59:32.340] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003510) So, anong take nyo rito? **[01:59:34.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003511) Our take is having **[01:59:35.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003512) a unified correctional **[01:59:37.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003513) and penology system is **[01:59:39.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003514) ideal for the country. **[01:59:41.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003515) That's one take po. **[01:59:44.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003516) Next is, everything **[01:59:45.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003517) should be just operational and **[01:59:47.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003518) transition. So, we **[01:59:49.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003519) share po **[01:59:50.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003520) that **[01:59:51.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003521) direction. **[01:59:56.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003522) We will **[01:59:57.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003523) be more than willing to **[01:59:59.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003524) do that. **[02:00:00.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003525) And hopefully, we have that unified correctional and penology system. **[02:00:07.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003526) General Greg, kaya mo i-absorb? **[02:00:12.620] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003527) Mr. Chairman, Your Honor, I think the best way first to do is one step at a time. **[02:00:20.880] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003528) Detach BJMP from the ILG and make BJMP as a bureau. **[02:00:27.340] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003529) Initially as a bureau, and then when the time comes that really we can merge these two. **[02:00:34.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003530) BJMP is effectively a bureau under the DILG, just like the PNP and the BFP, di ba? **[02:00:40.380] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003531) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:00:41.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003532) So, ano, separate bureau? **[02:00:43.880] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003533) Initially po, para because we have internal problems in Bucor, I want to solve them maybe before 2028. **[02:00:54.200] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003534) And also BJMP. **[02:00:57.340] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003535) Can have a sunset review by our good secretary to really how to merge this. **[02:01:05.560] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003536) Because in other countries, it's a unified penology and correctional system. **[02:01:13.940] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003537) And they call it the Bureau of Correctional Services. **[02:01:18.180] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-003538) So, in the future, it will be merged. **[02:01:21.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003539) Senator, if I may, the first step would be transferring the BJMP. **[02:01:27.340] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003540) From the DILG to the DOJ. **[02:01:29.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003541) Then that will pave the way for that. **[02:01:31.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003542) Especially with the residual powers of the President. **[02:01:38.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003543) I think legally, no need for a new law for that. **[02:01:45.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003544) Senator Ping and Secretary Vida. **[02:01:48.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003545) An executive order will do. **[02:01:51.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003546) Under the administrative code. **[02:01:52.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003547) Actually, we did that under President Aquino's time. **[02:01:55.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003548) We took away the NFA. **[02:01:57.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003549) The NIA. **[02:01:59.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003550) The Pesticide and Fertilizer Authority. **[02:02:05.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003551) And the Philippine Coconut Authority. **[02:02:07.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003552) We took it all away from the Department of Agriculture. **[02:02:11.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003553) And put it under the office of the President. **[02:02:13.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003554) By way of executive order. **[02:02:16.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003555) So, an executive order can now transfer the BJMP from the DILG. **[02:02:23.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003556) Unless there is a law. **[02:02:25.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003557) But I don't think so. **[02:02:26.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003558) The law is. **[02:02:27.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003559) The administrative code. **[02:02:29.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003560) Correct? **[02:02:29.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003561) If Yusek Marco is more knowledgeable on the current status now. **[02:02:36.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003562) There are already ongoing discussions on this, Your Honors. **[02:02:39.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003563) Isa nang tanong ko. **[02:02:40.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003564) Anong status doon sa recommendation? **[02:02:43.020] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003565) With the permission of the Secretary. **[02:02:44.680] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003566) Is the President positive on this? **[02:02:48.000] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003567) Thank you. **[02:02:49.340] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003568) With the permission of the Secretary. **[02:02:51.600] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003569) Good morning, Your Honors. **[02:02:53.160] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003570) At first, we were looking at two ways to do it. **[02:02:55.600] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003571) First one would be through legislation. **[02:02:57.340] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003572) But during the study, we figured out that this was done before through an executive order. **[02:03:02.960] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003573) The only law that could probably be maybe a problem for this would be the local government code. **[02:03:10.420] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003574) Because the provincial jails, according to the local government code, belongs to the provincial. **[02:03:17.080] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003575) That's the only problem, Your Honors. **[02:03:21.160] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003576) Yeah. **[02:03:22.060] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003577) Binigyan ng staff ko, no? **[02:03:23.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003578) Also under the Government Optimization Act. **[02:03:26.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003579) No? **[02:03:27.340] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003580) Pwede rin mag-reorganize yung Pangulo. **[02:03:29.980] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003581) So maraming available na pieces of legislation. **[02:03:33.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003582) No longer legislation, but batas. **[02:03:35.280] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003583) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:03:35.980] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003584) So maybe you can work around itong dinidiscuss natin. **[02:03:40.020] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003585) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:03:40.540] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003586) The present status right now is we have already formed a technical working group with the DILG, with the BJMP. **[02:03:46.720] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003587) And by the end of this month, we should be done with the draft EO already. **[02:03:50.620] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003588) Thank you. **[02:03:51.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003589) What is the exact provision in the local government code? **[02:03:55.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003590) Would you have it? **[02:03:56.260] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003591) I'll look it up. **[02:03:57.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003592) As you, before, we can proceed with the other items, but later on, we'll go back to you. **[02:04:02.340] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-003593) Thank you, Your Honors. **[02:04:04.120] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003594) Wala na akong. **[02:04:04.760] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003595) Alas dosi na, Mr. Chairman. **[02:04:06.420] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003596) Pauwi na natin sila. **[02:04:08.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003597) Meron lang akong ilang katanungan. **[02:04:10.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003598) For the record lang, Senator Ping, we were able to collate. **[02:04:16.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003599) The department was able to remit to the Bureau of Treasury 18,715,924,000. **[02:04:24.020] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003600) But what was released under... **[02:04:27.340] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003601) Their special account to the DOJ family is the total only of P262,778,000. **[02:04:36.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003602) That's based on that. **[02:04:38.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003603) We'll take note of that, Secretary Vida. **[02:04:42.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003604) Ano lang na remit out of 18? **[02:04:45.360] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003605) Maliit. **[02:04:46.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-003606) Yes, sir. **[02:04:47.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003607) Sir, pahabol ko lang po. Pasensya na po. **[02:04:49.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003608) Go ahead, Director. **[02:04:50.220] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003609) Meron po rin kaming request saan ng restatement doon sa proposal namin. **[02:04:54.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003610) This will help yung aming mga... **[02:04:57.340] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003611) mga agents po. **[02:04:59.020] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003612) I'm requesting for a budget for the increase of their hazard pay. **[02:05:03.380] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003613) Ngayon po kasi they're just getting P4,000 a month na hazard pay **[02:05:07.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003614) which is no longer at par with other law enforcement group. **[02:05:10.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003615) Baka po pwedeng gawin P15,000. **[02:05:12.020] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003616) This will increase po about P97 million a year po na madagdag. **[02:05:16.120] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003617) Which will boost the morale of our law enforcement po, **[02:05:19.020] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003618) ng mga agents po natin. **[02:05:20.200] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003619) Salamat po. **[02:05:22.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003620) Wala sa NBI modernization law yan? **[02:05:25.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003621) Tinatanong na, Senator Ping. **[02:05:26.640] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003622) Actually, nakalagay po. **[02:05:27.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003623) Nakalagay po na wala pong nakalagay na provisions na gano'n. **[02:05:31.440] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003624) Pero we are actually requesting for that para lang po sana yung ikot po ng tao. **[02:05:37.320] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003625) We only have about 370 agents po sa buong Pilipinas po. **[02:05:41.880] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003626) Ganun lang po karami. **[02:05:42.780] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003627) Pero nagsulat na po kami sa DBM to increase the number of our agents. **[02:05:47.920] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003628) Kasi under the modernization, **[02:05:50.760] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003629) ang minimum po na requirement na agents namin per region at per district. **[02:05:54.740] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003630) When you say district, yung province po, the 82 provinces. **[02:05:57.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003631) Now, 6 dapat per region at per district. **[02:06:02.040] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003632) Ganyan po, we only have 370 po. **[02:06:04.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003633) Director Melvin, kindly check again. **[02:06:06.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003634) Kasi baka may naliligaw na provision para budget na lang yung problema. **[02:06:11.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003635) Baka mayroong provision doon na related na pwedeng lagyan ng budget. **[02:06:16.960] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003636) Pakireview na lang ulit yung NBI modernization. **[02:06:20.400] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003637) Kasi kapapasa lang yan. **[02:06:22.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003638) Baka naman mayroong naliligaw doon na nabanggit yung hazard. **[02:06:25.840] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003639) Sige po. **[02:06:27.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003640) Nagsulat na lang po namin sa inyo po. **[02:06:28.460] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003641) Maraming salamat po. **[02:06:29.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003642) Address it to the chairman of the committee. **[02:06:31.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003643) Ito pala meron oh. **[02:06:32.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003644) There you go. **[02:06:34.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003645) Go ahead sir. **[02:06:35.040] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003646) Section 10. **[02:06:38.000] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003647) Benefits and privileges. **[02:06:40.920] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003648) Paragraph E. **[02:06:41.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003649) Hazard pay. **[02:06:43.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003650) Subject to pertinent laws and rules. **[02:06:45.940] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003651) Meaning, pag sinabing subject to pertinent laws, gaayon. **[02:06:50.740] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003652) Di ba? **[02:06:51.420] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003653) So hindi na kailangan ng legislation. **[02:06:53.300] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003654) It's already there. **[02:06:56.240] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003655) Yes sir. **[02:06:57.180] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003656) That's why we're requesting po for the... **[02:06:58.980] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003657) Kaya, mag-usap pala kayo ng chairman. **[02:07:01.100] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003658) Opo. **[02:07:01.900] NBI Director Melvin Matibag** (asr-003659) 97 million po yung computation namin for everyone po. **[02:07:05.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003660) Please address it to the chairman of the committee just through me. **[02:07:09.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003661) Chairman through the vice chairman. **[02:07:11.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003662) Thank you. **[02:07:12.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003663) Go ahead sir. **[02:07:14.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003664) Siguro, just a few more points sa Mr. Chair. **[02:07:18.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003665) Siguro, dahil ka-ask to us, Commissioner Joel. **[02:07:23.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003666) Viado sa BI. **[02:07:24.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003667) Okay. **[02:07:25.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003668) Yung pong... **[02:07:27.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003669) e-gates and Border Management System. **[02:07:29.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003670) Kasi budget eh. **[02:07:30.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003671) Kaya I have to ask. **[02:07:32.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003672) As early as **[02:07:32.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003673) 2017, Bureau of Immigration has been receiving allocation for its Border Management Information System. **[02:07:39.140] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003674) From 2017 to 2026, the project has received a total allocation of almost 10 billion. For 2027, **[02:07:46.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003675) Allocation of BMIS is just 524 million. **[02:07:51.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003676) Pero through the years, malaki na rin ito. **[02:07:54.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003677) 2024, 2.6 billion. **[02:07:58.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003678) 2025, 3.8 billion. **[02:08:01.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003679) 2026, 1.8 billion. **[02:08:04.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003680) Just like to ask, medyo malaki kasi ito. **[02:08:08.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003681) But what are the components so that everybody will understand of this project aside from the expansion of the e-gates in our international ports? **[02:08:16.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003682) Ano po ito? **[02:08:16.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003683) For convenience lang? **[02:08:17.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003684) Or does it include the software, lahat po ng information system? **[02:08:23.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003685) So probably can... **[02:08:24.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003686) You can expound, Commissioner Joel. **[02:08:27.940] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003687) Yes. **[02:08:28.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003688) Thank you very much po, Senator Ejercito. **[02:08:31.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003689) With the permission of our Honorable Secretary. **[02:08:33.580] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003690) Ang components po ng e-gates project po namin, which aims to not only strengthen border control but also modernize the primary immigration processing, **[02:08:46.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003691) accelerate clearances, prevent fraud, and streamline the immigration processing through biometric verification. **[02:08:53.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003692) Ang components po niyan are the following. **[02:08:54.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003693) First, biometrics capture device in manned inspection counters. **[02:09:00.280] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003694) Ang description po nito, it is a self-contained device at manned counters, which will capture the traveler's biometric data, such as fingerprints and facial images, with seamless software integration for operation. **[02:09:17.040] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003695) Number two po, yung hardware po ng e-gates. **[02:09:20.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003696) Yan po yung nakikita po natin. **[02:09:21.500] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003697) These are automated self-service gates. **[02:09:24.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003698) These are the gates that allow eligible travelers to clear immigration without going through a manned counter. **[02:09:31.800] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003699) Ito pong e-gates, they read the traveler's passport, they capture live biometrics, they verify the person's identity against the passport, they check the regulatory records, and open the gates if all checks are passed. **[02:09:46.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003700) Kasama rin po dito ang automated biometric identification system, o yung tinatawag po nating ABIS. **[02:09:52.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003701) It's the central system that stores... **[02:09:54.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003702) It's the central system that stores and matches face and fingerprint data for real-time identity verification and fraud detection. **[02:10:02.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003703) Meron din pong e-gates monitoring station. **[02:10:05.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003704) Ito po ang workstations used by immigration officers to monitor the status and performance of all e-gates in real-time. **[02:10:13.800] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003705) The system shows whether each gate is operational, in use, or requires assistance, allowing officers to respond quickly to any issues. **[02:10:22.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003706) Andyan din po ang border control data. **[02:10:24.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003708) exchange platform, or BCDEP. **[02:10:28.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003709) The secure platform that enables safe, real-time data sharing among border control systems and agencies. **[02:10:36.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003710) Andyan din po ang administrative back-end system. **[02:10:39.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003711) The management system for monitoring usage, performance, and configuration of e-gates and related components. **[02:10:46.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003712) Meron din pong document verification software. **[02:10:48.760] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003713) It displays all verification results performed on the passport within the immigration... **[02:10:54.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003714) ...officer's interface. **[02:10:57.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003715) Nakaka-indicate po siya ng any detected anomalies or inconsistencies. **[02:11:01.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003716) Meron din pong network requirements. **[02:11:03.920] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003717) Kailangan po kasi yung communications infrastructure maigi. **[02:11:07.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003718) Nandun po yung switchers, routers, cabling, tsaka yung Wi-Fi that can securely connect all e-gate components. **[02:11:14.840] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003719) Meron din pong server requirements na kailangan pong kasusan. **[02:11:18.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003720) The servers host and run core e-gate systems to handle transactions reliably... **[02:11:24.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003721) ...and support future growth. **[02:11:27.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003722) Bangsan po po ang system integration. **[02:11:29.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003723) It will connect all e-gates and biometric systems with the border control information system... **[02:11:35.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003724) ...and other databases for real-time checks and smooth passenger flow. **[02:11:40.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003725) Meron din pong backup and disaster recovery. **[02:11:43.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003726) Yan po yung kung mag-down yung system, dapat po may backup. **[02:11:46.760] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003727) The data backups and redundant systems aim to protect information and restore operations quickly. **[02:11:54.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003728) After failures or disruptions. **[02:11:57.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003729) Meron din pong kailangan kasusan na support, maintenance, and warranty. **[02:12:02.900] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003730) For ongoing technical support, preventive maintenance, and repairs to keep all e-gates components running reliably. **[02:12:11.940] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003731) And last but not the least, anyan po yung training or structured training for the officers and staff... **[02:12:18.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003732) ...on operating, monitoring, and maintaining the e-gates and associated systems. **[02:12:23.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003733) So we have to consider... **[02:12:24.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003734) ...your honors, na hindi lang po yung hardware ang kailangan pong paglaanan ng budget. **[02:12:31.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003735) Andiyan po ang isang system na kailangan tumakbo not only in the airports in Metro Manila... **[02:12:37.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003736) ...but interconnected with all the other airports in the whole Philippines. **[02:12:41.640] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003737) Yan po. **[02:12:42.400] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003738) Chair Chairman, ang facial identification or facial recognition, yung requirement ninyo? **[02:12:48.860] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003739) Facial recognition, yung requirement. **[02:12:50.080] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003740) Recognition, mahal yan. **[02:12:52.280] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003741) We have been working, your honor... **[02:12:54.560] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003742) ...with the... **[02:12:54.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003743) ...within the budget, kung ano po ang naibigay sa amin pong budget po ng ating pong kapulungan. **[02:13:00.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003744) Yun po, we're working within that po. **[02:13:02.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003745) So ang stages po niyan, ang first phase po, 1.9 billion, but we were able to lower that to 1.5 billion po. **[02:13:12.700] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003746) And secondly po, Your Honor, yung phase 2 po ng proyekto namin is around [unclear]. **[02:13:23.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003747) 1 billion 347 million 57 thousand. **[02:13:29.340] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003748) Hindi ko kasanayin na magbasa ng napakaraming... **[02:13:32.120] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003749) Lagi mo inisip yung milyon. **[02:13:33.820] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003750) Lagi, laging, laging, ano po. **[02:13:36.060] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003751) And phase 3 po ng proyekto is for 2026, 536,072,000, your honors. **[02:13:45.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003752) Yan po. **[02:13:46.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003753) Kasi basically, di ba, pagka facial identification, ang tanong lang, sino to? **[02:13:51.300] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003754) Pero pagka facial recognition, may matching. **[02:13:53.700] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003755) May matching pa ito, di ba? **[02:13:54.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003756) Yes, po, your honor. **[02:13:55.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003757) Kaya po, meron po kaming biometric capturing systems po na binili. **[02:13:59.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003758) Not only the hardware, but meron pong biometric capturing devices po na binili, your honor. **[02:14:05.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003759) Kasi yan po ang crucial. **[02:14:07.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003760) Meron pa nga pong instances, your honor, na meron pong airports na maaring hindi kailangan ng e-gates because of the passenger traffic, **[02:14:15.120] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003761) pero kailangan ng biometric identification system. **[02:14:18.040] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003762) Yan po. **[02:14:19.180] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003763) Sa Southeast Asia, tayo na lang ba yung walang facial recognition? **[02:14:24.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003764) Hindi ko po masabi sa buong Southeast Asia, your honor, but I've been to different airports all over Southeast Asia and Asia. **[02:14:32.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003765) Nakita ko na po yan sa, of course, Singapore, ang Indonesia, sa Bali, ang dami po nilang mga e-gates, ang Japan, of course, and Korea. **[02:14:42.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003766) Yan po. Marami po talagang mga bansa, your honors, na gumagamit. **[02:14:45.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003767) Kindly walk us through, no? Pagka meron na tayong facial recognition technology. **[02:14:50.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003768) Yes, your honor. **[02:14:52.780] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003769) Anong... **[02:14:53.260] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003770) Anong mako-cover nito? **[02:14:54.780] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003771) Pagdating ng pasahero, wala na tayo yung mga boots. **[02:14:58.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003772) Yes, your honor. **[02:14:59.580] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003773) Yes, your honor. **[02:15:00.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003774) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:15:00.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003775) Hanggang Pochina. **[02:15:01.900] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003776) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:15:02.500] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003777) That is the ultimate objective, Your Honor. **[02:15:04.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003778) Gaya po ng sa ibang bansa, Your Honor. **[02:15:06.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003779) Nadadaan na lang po kayo sa Amerika po. **[02:15:08.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003780) Ganun. **[02:15:08.640] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003781) Pagdaan, nakaka-capture na po lahat. **[02:15:10.340] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003782) Lahat captured na. **[02:15:11.340] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003783) So, you don't need to queue. **[02:15:14.720] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003784) Di ba? **[02:15:14.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003785) Hindi ka na magka-queue. **[02:15:15.980] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003786) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:15:17.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003787) Ganun po. **[02:15:17.700] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003788) Because to which is own, you just go through. **[02:15:21.560] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003789) Yes po, Your Honor. **[02:15:22.920] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003790) Ang maganda po kasi sa ganitong approach, Your Honor, **[02:15:26.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003791) yung manual counters po, **[02:15:27.760] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003792) kung hindi mababawasan, matatanggal totally. **[02:15:31.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003793) But we are adopting a step-ladder approach. **[02:15:34.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003794) Kasi po, we have to admit, **[02:15:36.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003795) kumbaga ho sa levels, **[02:15:38.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003796) kumbaga ho nandito pa ho tayo sa level 1. **[02:15:40.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003797) Hindi naman ho pwedeng agad-agad na sa level number 10 po tayo. **[02:15:44.060] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003798) So, we have to go through the different processes and phases. **[02:15:47.400] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003799) At ito po ang naisip namin na unang hakbang po, **[02:15:51.460] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003800) patungo po doon sa ating adhikain, **[02:15:53.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003801) na lahat e dumaan doon sa tinatawag po nating artificial intelligence. **[02:15:57.820] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003802) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:15:58.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003803) Ito po ang... **[02:15:59.140] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003804) Wala nang human intervention. **[02:16:00.840] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003805) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:16:01.580] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003806) That would... **[02:16:02.380] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003807) Ang problema nyo, saan nyo itatapon yung mga employees ninyo? **[02:16:05.040] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003808) Your Honor, we have to consider yun po, **[02:16:08.020] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003809) na we are expecting passenger traffic to really increase exponentially. **[02:16:13.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003810) So, we still need the immigration personnel. **[02:16:16.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003811) We also need people to man the different e-gates **[02:16:19.700] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003812) and the different systems. **[02:16:21.460] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003813) Ultimately po, maari pong ma-prevent siya from entering, **[02:16:26.340] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003814) but... **[02:16:27.760] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003815) The discretion of the immigration officers still remains. **[02:16:30.120] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003816) So, kailangan pa rin po namin. **[02:16:30.880] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003817) So, how much do we need for the first phase? **[02:16:33.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003818) 1.3 billion. **[02:16:36.160] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003819) Na ibigay na po sa amin, Your Honor. **[02:16:37.860] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003820) Ah, nandiyan na. **[02:16:38.640] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003821) So, in the works na ito? **[02:16:40.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003822) Yes po, Your Honor. **[02:16:42.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003823) So, where are we now? **[02:16:44.820] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003824) Sa ano po? **[02:16:46.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003825) Sa phase 2 na po tayo, Your Honor. **[02:16:49.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003826) Nasa phase 2 na po. **[02:16:50.220] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003827) Nasa NEP yan? **[02:16:51.820] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003828) Yes po, Your Honor. **[02:16:54.280] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003829) Sufficient or not enough? **[02:16:56.620] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003830) Yung nasa NEP? **[02:17:01.500] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003831) Sapat na ba? **[02:17:02.260] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003832) Enough na po, Your Honor. **[02:17:04.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003833) If I may, Your Honor. **[02:17:05.800] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003834) Wala na po nga, pigi-usapang budget. **[02:17:08.560] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003835) Okay na po. **[02:17:09.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003836) Your Honor. **[02:17:10.500] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003837) I-adapt na lang yung NEP, ano? **[02:17:11.800] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003838) Yes po. **[02:17:12.300] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003839) I-adapt na lang yung NEP. **[02:17:13.640] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003840) Yes po. **[02:17:13.900] Senator Panfilo Lacson** (asr-003841) Okay na kayo? **[02:17:14.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003842) Apo. **[02:17:15.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003843) If I may give the specific phases po, kung nasa na po. **[02:17:18.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003844) Ang status po ng phase 1, **[02:17:20.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003845) the procurement of the e-gates project has been completed **[02:17:23.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003846) with a notice to proceed issued on 12 March 2026. **[02:17:26.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003847) to the winning joint venture and bidder. **[02:17:29.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003848) The project implementation will be undertaken **[02:17:31.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003849) over a 9-month period from receipt of the NTP. **[02:17:34.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003850) So from March 12, may 9-month period po. **[02:17:37.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003851) Ang phase 2 po, Your Honors. **[02:17:39.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003852) The technical specifications were submitted **[02:17:40.800] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003853) to the Office of the Department of Justice, **[02:17:43.120] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003854) Chief Information Technology Officer, **[02:17:45.100] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003855) on September 8, 2026. **[02:17:47.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003856) And it was approved on the same day. **[02:17:49.780] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003857) Subsequently, the invitation to bid was posted **[02:17:52.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003858) on September 19, 2026, **[02:17:54.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003859) with a pre-bid conference set for **[02:17:56.560] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003860) September 30, 2026, Your Honor. **[02:17:59.160] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003861) Ang phase 3 po ng proyekto, **[02:18:01.860] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003862) a letter directive constituting the e-gates phase 3 **[02:18:04.780] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003863) project management team, or PMT, **[02:18:07.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003864) has been issued by the Office of the Commissioner **[02:18:09.120] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003865) of the Bureau of Immigration, **[02:18:10.560] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003866) and the drafting of the technical specifications **[02:18:12.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003867) will commence shortly thereafter, Your Honor. **[02:18:16.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003868) We have also done the required market scoping **[02:18:19.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003869) as required by BI Memorandum No. 2025-132 **[02:18:24.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003870) in line with the new government's **[02:18:26.560] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003871) Procurement Act. **[02:18:28.060] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003872) So dinaanam po namin yung pag-scope po **[02:18:30.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003873) sa merkado as a preliminary step **[02:18:33.280] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003874) in strategic procurement planning, Your Honor. **[02:18:37.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003875) Just to continue, by the way, **[02:18:40.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003876) Mr. Chair, bago nat, **[02:18:42.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003877) si Yusek March pala. **[02:18:43.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003878) Batiin natin. **[02:18:45.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003879) Congratulations sa bagong kasal. **[02:18:48.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003880) Anyway, commercial, huh? **[02:18:51.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003881) How are you related, Yusek Gutierrez? **[02:18:53.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003882) Thank you. **[02:18:54.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003883) Ah, Yusek Gutierrez, you're the daughter **[02:18:59.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003884) of former Secretary Gutierrez. **[02:19:02.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003885) Okay. **[02:19:03.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003886) We were together in the JBC. **[02:19:06.680] DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez** (asr-003887) Okay, sir. **[02:19:07.340] DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez** (asr-003888) And it's her birthday today. **[02:19:08.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003889) It's her birthday today. **[02:19:09.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003890) Please tell her happy birthday. **[02:19:11.340] DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez** (asr-003891) And I'm putting that also on record. **[02:19:14.200] DOJ Undersecretary Garney M. Candelaria** (asr-003892) Sir, if I may, on record, sir, **[02:19:17.800] DOJ Undersecretary Garney M. Candelaria** (asr-003893) Usec Margarita Llamanzares. **[02:19:20.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003894) Oh, yes, that's right. **[02:19:21.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003895) Thank you. **[02:19:24.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003896) Yes, that's correct. **[02:19:25.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003897) Congratulations and best wishes. **[02:19:26.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003898) Yes, sir. **[02:19:27.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003899) Thank you, Mr. Chair. **[02:19:29.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003900) So, ang component pa ito, kaya mahal, **[02:19:31.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003901) it's not just for convenience **[02:19:33.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003902) na akala kasi natin. **[02:19:34.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003903) Parang yung laman lang ng passport, **[02:19:36.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003904) information, and to capture the database, **[02:19:39.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003905) yun lang. **[02:19:39.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003906) So, meron din itong component na matse-check **[02:19:43.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003907) kung may derogatory records, **[02:19:45.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003908) kung merong international fugitive **[02:19:48.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003909) or international, ano ba ito, criminal. **[02:19:52.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003910) Yes, po. **[02:19:52.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003911) Kaya ba itong mahuli? **[02:19:54.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003912) So, magpupula ba yung e-gates **[02:19:56.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003913) kung may problema? **[02:19:58.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003914) Sige, konti lang. **[02:19:59.960] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003915) Kaya po, Your Honor. **[02:20:01.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-003916) Pagsak na yung kulungan. **[02:20:07.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003917) Pwede po, Your Honor. **[02:20:08.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003918) Opo, naka-hook up rin po kami **[02:20:11.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003919) sa sistema po ng Interpol. **[02:20:14.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003920) International Police po, Your Honor. **[02:20:15.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003921) So, how many e-gates have been installed **[02:20:17.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003922) and how will be our operation already? **[02:20:22.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003923) Yes. **[02:20:22.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003924) I assume na yung major terminals natin, **[02:20:26.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003925) na iya 1, 2, 3, **[02:20:29.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003926) and then siguro sa Ibu and Dabao. **[02:20:32.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003927) Sige po. **[02:20:33.100] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003928) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:20:34.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003929) Sa ano po, sa ating e-gates, **[02:20:41.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003930) meron pong donation which came from the private entity, **[02:20:44.940] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003931) NNIC. **[02:20:45.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003932) So, na iya 1 and 3 po, **[02:20:47.900] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003933) ano po yan, 78, Your Honors. **[02:20:49.640] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003934) And then, eventually po, **[02:20:52.540] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003935) sa donation, **[02:20:53.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003936) inilaan po namin yung budget po **[02:20:57.040] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003937) para doon sa originally T1 and T3 **[02:20:59.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003938) sa ibang airports po sa buong Pilipinas. **[02:21:02.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003939) Sa mga major airports. **[02:21:03.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003940) Even, basta international airports, **[02:21:05.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003941) lalagyan nyo. **[02:21:06.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003942) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:21:07.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003943) So, for the record, **[02:21:09.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003944) NNIC or the new na IA Infra Corporation **[02:21:11.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003945) donated about **[02:21:13.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003946) a few units for terminals 1 and 3 **[02:21:18.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003947) ang nabanggit nyo. **[02:21:19.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003948) Tama po, e-gates? **[02:21:20.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003949) That's correct, Your Honor. **[02:21:22.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003950) Already being used, no? **[02:21:23.780] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003951) Yes po, Your Honor. **[02:21:25.640] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003952) Sa atin naman po, **[02:21:26.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003953) nakadeploy po yan sa Cebu, Clark, Bohol, Dabao, **[02:21:30.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003954) 47 e-gates po. **[02:21:32.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003955) And ang nabanggit ko po kanina, **[02:21:33.700] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003956) yung biometric capturing devices, **[02:21:36.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003957) na importante po makuha po yung information **[02:21:38.460] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003958) na kailangan po from the passenger, **[02:21:40.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003959) merong 57 po tayo na biometric capturing devices, **[02:21:43.980] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003960) Your Honor. **[02:21:44.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003961) So, kung may whole departure order, **[02:21:46.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003962) for example, **[02:21:47.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003963) pupula ba yun? **[02:21:48.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003964) Pupula po, Your Honor. **[02:21:49.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003965) Ah, hindi makakatuloy, Your Honor. **[02:21:52.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003966) Okay, sige, marami kasi may HDO ngayon, eh. **[02:21:55.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003967) So, just want to make sure na, hindi... **[02:21:57.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003968) So, ano? **[02:21:59.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003969) Okay. **[02:22:00.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003970) Pupula. **[02:22:01.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003971) Kasi nakita ko doon, ano, Mr. Chair, **[02:22:03.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003972) nandaming e-gates green, eh. **[02:22:04.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003973) Ibig sabihin... **[02:22:05.840] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003974) Tuloy lang po. **[02:22:06.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003975) Go yun, tuloy-tuloy lang. **[02:22:07.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003976) So, pag pumula, may problema. **[02:22:09.460] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003977) Yes po, Your Honor. **[02:22:11.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003978) Doon makakailanganin yung human intervention. **[02:22:13.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003979) Yes po, Your Honor. **[02:22:14.600] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003980) Taba po kayo ito, Your Honor. **[02:22:16.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003981) So, hindi naman babawasan, no, **[02:22:18.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003982) yung mga immigration officers natin? **[02:22:19.980] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003983) Hindi po, Your Honor. **[02:22:20.640] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003984) As a matter of fact, **[02:22:21.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003985) ngayon po, **[02:22:22.540] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003986) kulang pa nga po tayo, Your Honor, eh. **[02:22:24.440] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003987) But we make do with whatever is given to us. **[02:22:27.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003988) Initially, I've been reiterating po, **[02:22:30.060] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003989) ang immigration officers po natin **[02:22:31.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003990) sa buong Pilipinas, **[02:22:33.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003991) around 1,800, 1,900. **[02:22:37.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003992) Ngayon po, **[02:22:37.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003993) ikukumpira po natin yan sa ibang bansa **[02:22:39.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003994) na hindi naman po kasi laki **[02:22:41.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003995) ng ating borders o teritoryo. **[02:22:45.020] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003996) Ang Japan, I think, has about 5,000, 6,000, 7,000. **[02:22:48.520] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003997) Ang Japan po yan. **[02:22:49.920] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003998) Dati po, may nakausap po ko galing Singapore. **[02:22:52.540] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-003999) Nagtatakaw po siya, nung tinanong po niya, **[02:22:54.540] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004000) ilan ang immigration officers niyon? **[02:22:56.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004001) Sabi ko, less than 2,000 what? **[02:22:58.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004002) And considering na pagdating po sa land area, **[02:23:01.940] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004003) napakaliit po ng kanilang area, **[02:23:04.800] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004004) kukupira po sa atin. **[02:23:06.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004005) And we don't only have to contend with the land area, **[02:23:09.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004006) we have to contend with the coastal areas. **[02:23:11.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004007) Milyon-milyon po ng metro kwadrado ang ating economic zone, **[02:23:17.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004008) exclusive economic zone po natin. **[02:23:19.140] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004009) Ang coastal areas po natin, **[02:23:20.240] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004010) daan-libu po yan **[02:23:21.240] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004011) ng **[02:23:22.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004012) kilometro kwadrado. **[02:23:24.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004013) So, we have to contend with that. **[02:23:26.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004014) And I've been telling those who have been asking **[02:23:32.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004015) ang kinalakihan po natin nun, **[02:23:35.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004016) 7,100 islands ang Pilipinas. **[02:23:37.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004017) Ngayon po, 7,600 na. **[02:23:39.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004018) And divide that with the number of officers that we have, **[02:23:44.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004019) on the average, one officer has to take care of four islands. **[02:23:49.380] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004020) Meron ho mga instances kung naano eh, **[02:23:52.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004021) kala po namin nung una eh, parang, ano lang ho, hindi nangyayari. **[02:23:56.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004022) But I was able to talk to one officer in a single day. **[02:24:00.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004023) She went to four islands in one day just to check on the situation. **[02:24:06.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004024) Ganyan po ang ano. **[02:24:08.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004025) So, kailangan po natin na mas marami ring officers yan. **[02:24:10.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004026) Masama dun sa four islands ang island of Luzon. **[02:24:14.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004027) Okay, go ahead. **[02:24:17.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004028) Yung ano lang kasi, napansin ko lang when I visited na IA, no? **[02:24:21.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004029) Because I also defend the budget of the OTR. **[02:24:25.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004030) Nag-inspection kami dun recently. **[02:24:27.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004031) I'm happy na ang dami ng e-gates, no? **[02:24:29.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004032) Kaya nakita ko yung green eh tsaka red eh. **[02:24:31.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004033) Na mahirap yung lumalabas na red. **[02:24:33.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004034) So, anyway, ang meron lang common complaint is that, **[02:24:40.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004035) siguro just walk us through or kaya kung ano yung patakaran ngayon, **[02:24:45.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004036) pag foreigner, kailangan humarap sa immigration officer pa, no? **[02:24:49.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004037) Yung arrival. **[02:24:50.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004038) Yung arrival. **[02:24:51.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004039) Yung mga Pilipino, pwedeng mag-e-gates na. **[02:24:54.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004040) Your Honor, ano po? **[02:24:55.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004041) Meron pong faces, Your Honor, if I can give you the schedule. **[02:24:59.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004042) Tsaka yung ano lang siguro, just to complete, no? **[02:25:01.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004043) And before you mention. **[02:25:02.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004044) Yes, sir. **[02:25:03.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004045) Yung ang problema kasi, yung departure, **[02:25:06.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004046) pag Pilipino, kailangan baliktad. **[02:25:09.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004047) Ang foreigner, e-gates ang pwedeng gumamit. **[02:25:12.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004048) Pero ang Pilipino, kailangan dumaan sa immigration officer, baliktad, no? **[02:25:16.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004049) So, I understand because of the anti-yakat, no? **[02:25:19.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004050) Sa anti-trafficking. **[02:25:21.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004051) Pero can you, Commissioner Joel, can you explain ito pong rational? **[02:25:26.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004052) Bakit ganun? **[02:25:27.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004053) Pag parating, bakit na, anyway, **[02:25:29.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004054) Senator Tulfo also brought this up during the DFA budget hearing, **[02:25:35.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004055) na pag parating, ang Pilipino lang ang pwedeng gumamit na e-gates. **[02:25:39.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004056) Pag paalis naman, foreigner lang. **[02:25:41.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004057) So, can you elaborate? **[02:25:44.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004058) Yes. **[02:25:45.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004059) Meron po kaming nakaset po ng mga, **[02:25:47.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004060) naka-set po ng mga schedule pagdating po sa kung sino po ang pwedeng lumabas at maglabas-masok using the e-gates. **[02:25:55.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004061) Noong ano po, noong December 2025, noong una po nating nilaunch po itong proyekto na to, **[02:26:00.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004062) Filipinos po ang makakagamit upon arrival. **[02:26:05.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004063) Noong February 2026 po, mga OFWs po natin, mga kababayan po nating OFWs, ang pwede na pong makagamit sa departure. **[02:26:14.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004064) Pagdating naman po ng May 2026, **[02:26:16.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004065) yung mga temporary visitors eligible under the, or admitted under the, tinatawag po nating EO408, **[02:26:24.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004066) yung mga eligible countries with the 30-day visa-free arrangement, **[02:26:29.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004067) makakagamit na rin po sila sa departure. **[02:26:32.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004068) Pagdating naman po noong June 2026, ang foreign nationals under the Balikbayanan Program, **[02:26:39.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004069) makakagamit po sila sa departure. **[02:26:42.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004070) At yun pong non-first-time travelers. **[02:26:46.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004073) Kabila sa Pilipinos, departure din po noong June 2026. **[02:26:50.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004074) At yun pong mga registered po sa Commission on Filipinos Overseas. **[02:26:54.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004075) Sa first quarter of 2027, ang schedule po natin, **[02:26:59.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004076) upon arrival, ang other eligible foreign nationals can use the E-gates. **[02:27:05.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004077) Pagdating naman po ng second quarter ng 2027, other eligible foreign nationals can now use the departure gates. **[02:27:14.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004078) Yan po ang schedule, Your Honor. **[02:27:16.240] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004079) And tama po kayo pagdating po sa mga kababayan po natin na aalis, **[02:27:22.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004080) we have to comply with the departure formalities na tinatawag po **[02:27:26.900] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004081) as set under the Interagency Council Against Trafficking **[02:27:30.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004082) of which the Bureau of Immigration is one of the members. **[02:27:33.020] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004083) We have to consider, Your Honors, that the Philippines is uniquely situated **[02:27:38.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004084) in the sense that ang border control po natin does not only pertain to those arriving **[02:27:43.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004085) but ang mga kababayan po natin ay piniprotektahan po natin **[02:27:47.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004086) bago po sila umalis ng bansa just to ensure that they are safely, **[02:27:53.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004087) they safely not only arrive but they safely work in the countries **[02:27:57.320] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004088) where they intend to be employed. **[02:27:59.340] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004089) Kaya po meron po mga proseso po kaming dinadaanan para humalaman **[02:28:03.900] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004090) kung ano po ang potensyal ng kababayan po natin na matatraffic. **[02:28:08.920] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004091) Um, ano po eh, it's unfortunate na ang mga perpetrators po **[02:28:17.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004092) nakakaisip po ng ano, ng iba't ibang mga kumbaga gimmick po **[02:28:20.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004093) para ho makapagpalabas po ng mga tao papunta ibang bansa. **[02:28:30.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004094) Also, um, we received information, I think this was also asked sa house, **[02:28:35.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004095) to sa hearing, yung sa, you're in the prior, **[02:28:38.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004096) process of finalizing the proposed PPP project, no? **[02:28:44.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004097) Ito po yung Civil Aviation and Immigration Security Services or CAIS. **[02:28:50.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004098) This project has an estimated cost, project cost of 10.7 billion. **[02:28:55.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004099) So can you share with the committee the details of this CAIS project **[02:28:58.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004100) and who is the proponent? Kung ano po yung purpose? **[02:29:01.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004101) And what will it do to help protect us? **[02:29:08.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004102) Ah, from, ah, lalo na sa international, ano to, no? **[02:29:14.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004103) Fugitives or anybody? So kung makakatulong ba ito sa ating pong crackdown on this? **[02:29:19.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004104) Sige, Commissioner Joel, please. **[02:29:20.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004105) Thank you very much po. Again, sir, to your ears ito. **[02:29:23.160] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004106) I would like to, to make it clear at this point po. **[02:29:26.580] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004107) Ah, yung Civil Aviation and Immigration Security Services program po, **[02:29:31.220] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004108) or CAIS na tinatawag, ah, it remains under review. **[02:29:34.500] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004109) And no final decision, ah, has been made concerning this project. **[02:29:38.920] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004110) We support the modernization of our border security system, **[02:29:43.840] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004111) but, ah, it should not be interpreted as an automatic approval **[02:29:47.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004112) of the, this particular proposal or its terms. **[02:29:51.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004113) So, ang proponent po must, ah, justify yung proposed fee, **[02:29:57.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004114) the technology, financial structure, and other. **[02:30:00.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004115) commercial terms. **[02:30:01.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004116) And the government, **[02:30:03.620] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004117) not only through the BI, **[02:30:05.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004118) but other concerned agencies **[02:30:06.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004119) like the PPP, **[02:30:08.100] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004120) the DOJ, **[02:30:09.160] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004121) the Department of Finance, **[02:30:10.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004122) must independently determine **[02:30:12.160] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004123) whether these are necessary, **[02:30:14.760] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004124) reasonable, **[02:30:15.480] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004125) and in the public interest. **[02:30:18.080] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004126) Ngayon po, **[02:30:19.280] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004127) do we think that it's in the public interest? **[02:30:23.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004128) We believe that it is a viable project **[02:30:26.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004129) which would strengthen **[02:30:28.740] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004130) border control and security. **[02:30:32.160] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004131) The CAIS is an integrated, **[02:30:35.560] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004132) intelligence-driven, **[02:30:37.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004133) border security system **[02:30:39.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004134) that combines advanced passenger information, **[02:30:42.920] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004135) merong biometrics, **[02:30:44.120] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004136) may automated immigration processing, **[02:30:46.420] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004137) may threat analytics, **[02:30:48.180] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004138) and centralized command and control capabilities. **[02:30:51.360] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004139) And guaranteed po **[02:30:52.400] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004140) ang technology refresh every four years **[02:30:54.960] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004141) for the next 20 years. **[02:30:56.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004142) Initially po, **[02:30:58.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004143) ang 10.7 billion po **[02:31:00.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004144) ang magagastos dito ng private proponent **[02:31:03.460] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004145) for this project. **[02:31:05.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004146) Now, in the next 20 years, **[02:31:09.340] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004147) ang estimate po is **[02:31:10.680] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004148) mga 116 billion po **[02:31:12.340] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004149) ang magagastos sila for operations, etc. **[02:31:15.040] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004150) For the hardware upgrade, **[02:31:16.820] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004151) it's about 52.2 billion **[02:31:20.100] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004152) for the next 20 years. **[02:31:23.400] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004153) Ang objective po is to move **[02:31:25.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004154) the bureaucracy, **[02:31:26.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004155) from predominantly manual **[02:31:29.120] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004156) and reactive screening approach **[02:31:31.100] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004157) to a proactive risk-based control system. **[02:31:36.780] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004158) We have to contend po **[02:31:38.200] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004159) as international travel increases, **[02:31:40.300] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004160) nagiging masophisticated po yung methods **[02:31:42.100] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004161) involving fraudulent documents, **[02:31:44.500] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004162) aliases, **[02:31:45.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004163) synthetic identities, **[02:31:47.000] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004164) human trafficking, **[02:31:48.060] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004165) terrorism, **[02:31:48.660] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004166) and other forms of transnational crime. **[02:31:51.260] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004167) And this system will enable the Bureau **[02:31:53.860] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004168) to identify **[02:31:55.760] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004169) high-risk, **[02:31:56.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004170) low-risk travelers earlier, **[02:31:58.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004171) before they reach the physical border, **[02:32:00.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004172) while allowing legitimate, **[02:32:02.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004173) low-risk travelers to be processed **[02:32:04.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004174) more efficiently. **[02:32:05.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004175) Ngayon po, **[02:32:06.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004176) ang konsepto po nito is **[02:32:07.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004177) we are expanding the borders. **[02:32:11.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004178) Meaning, hindi lang po sa physical borders **[02:32:13.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004179) na ho natin makokontrol, **[02:32:15.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004180) but even before they board the plane, **[02:32:19.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004181) alam na po natin kung pwedeng, **[02:32:21.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004182) dapat ba silang papasukay nung hindi. **[02:32:24.880] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004183) Yan po yung konsepto nung **[02:32:26.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004184) kais, Your Honor. **[02:32:27.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004185) Kom Joel, just ano, **[02:32:29.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004186) eto ba'y ano, **[02:32:31.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004187) do you have parang network na **[02:32:33.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004188) international database na yung mga fugitives **[02:32:36.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004189) and yung pong mga may mga derogatory records, **[02:32:40.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004190) especially kung may mga terrorist sim yan? **[02:32:42.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004191) Eto bang ano, **[02:32:44.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004192) is this part of this, **[02:32:46.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004193) is this part, **[02:32:48.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004194) is the information part of this project? **[02:32:50.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004195) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:32:51.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004196) Kasama ho dyan ang analytics ng muka **[02:32:54.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004197) na nakikita po natin sa internet. **[02:32:56.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004198) So billions of faces ho makikita dyan. **[02:32:58.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004199) Meron din hong naka, **[02:33:00.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004200) naka ano po yan, **[02:33:01.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004201) nakakonekta sa Interpol database **[02:33:03.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004202) and other databases ho na relevant po dito sa ano po, **[02:33:08.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004203) kung kailangan papasukin ng isang individual o hindi. **[02:33:11.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004204) So is this integrated with other border control system of other countries? **[02:33:16.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004205) Yes po. Yan po ang, **[02:33:18.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004206) Your Honor, yan po ang objective, Your Honor. **[02:33:20.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004207) And capability po. **[02:33:22.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004208) Presently, how many countries, almost all, **[02:33:24.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004209) I presume mga first world countries **[02:33:26.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004210) are already using this system? **[02:33:28.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004211) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:33:30.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004212) Ang proponent po is US-based. **[02:33:32.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004213) So based on information provided to us, **[02:33:36.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004214) they operate the system with other partners **[02:33:40.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004215) within four major cities po. **[02:33:43.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004216) Four major airports in four major cities in the United States. **[02:33:47.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004217) Meron din po sila sa Asia, **[02:33:49.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004218) meron po sa Africa and Europe. **[02:33:52.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004219) Yan po, all over the world po. **[02:33:54.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004220) Merong ano, diba? **[02:33:56.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004221) May information na, **[02:33:58.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004222) yun sa manifesto pa lang ng mga incoming passengers, **[02:34:02.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004223) possible ba na malalaman nyo na **[02:34:05.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004224) na meron itong mga ito, **[02:34:07.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004225) or these people are, **[02:34:09.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004226) halimbawa, international terrorist, **[02:34:11.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004227) or fugitive, **[02:34:13.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004228) o meron yung records sa iba? **[02:34:15.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004229) Kasama rin ba ito sa ano? **[02:34:17.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004230) Kasama na rin dito? **[02:34:18.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004231) Yes po, Your Honor. **[02:34:19.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004232) Yan po ang tinatawag na **[02:34:20.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004233) Advanced Passenger Information System. **[02:34:22.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004234) Ngayon po, **[02:34:23.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004235) bago pa po mag-board, **[02:34:25.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004236) pagka nagbigay na po ng manifesto ang isang aeroplano, **[02:34:29.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004237) pag sakay po ng isang tao sa airport, **[02:34:32.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004238) doon sa aeroplano po sa airport, **[02:34:35.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004239) on the way or in transit, **[02:34:37.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004240) ibabato na po sa amin yung information. **[02:34:39.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004241) So malalaman po namin kung isa pong tao ay dapat papasukin sa atin. **[02:34:43.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004242) So we have been using this system **[02:34:45.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004243) na-exclude po ang ibang, **[02:34:47.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004244) marami na pong mga nagtatangka rito magtago, **[02:34:50.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004245) o mga pugante po, **[02:34:52.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004246) o fugitives from other countries. **[02:34:55.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004247) Ito pong system ng CAIS **[02:34:57.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004248) will integrate and **[02:34:59.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004249) also improve upon that system. **[02:35:02.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004250) So pagka dito sa CAIS project po, **[02:35:05.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004251) let's say meron ho 20 years ago, **[02:35:07.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004252) a certain person made a pronouncement, **[02:35:10.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004253) posted it on the web, **[02:35:13.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004254) terroristic yung kanyang tendency or activity, **[02:35:17.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004255) the system can read that. **[02:35:22.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004256) Ang ano rin dito, may gastusin ba tayo rito? **[02:35:25.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004257) Or is this entirely PPP? **[02:35:27.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004258) Wala po tayong gastusin, Your Honor. **[02:35:30.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004259) But what sets this apart from the other **[02:35:34.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004260) border management information system? **[02:35:36.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004261) Yung currently nasa GAA, no? **[02:35:39.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004262) Anong pagkakaiba na ito? **[02:35:41.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004263) Is this integrated? **[02:35:43.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004264) Magiging linked ba ito when it becomes operational? **[02:35:46.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004265) Ito po integrative, Your Honor. **[02:35:48.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004266) Iintegrate po dito yung iba't ibang systems **[02:35:51.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004267) that we are currently enjoying or using, Your Honor. **[02:35:55.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004268) Ito po kasi, ang sa atin ngayon, **[02:35:58.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004269) manual, manually based, reactive. **[02:36:01.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004270) Ito po proactive, meaning bago pa ho dumating sa mga borders natin, **[02:36:05.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004271) based on the information available on the web, **[02:36:08.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004272) based on the information available or given to us **[02:36:12.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004273) or integrated with our system, **[02:36:14.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004274) na available sa iba't ibang bansa and other agencies **[02:36:17.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004275) dito sa Pilipinas, we can determine **[02:36:20.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004276) the, not the capability, not only the capability, **[02:36:25.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004277) but the, if, whether or not we will admit a person **[02:36:30.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004278) or that person is privileged enough to enter the Philippines. **[02:36:35.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004279) Yan po ang ano, yan po ang sistema na. **[02:36:37.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004280) That's a very good, that's very good news. **[02:36:39.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004281) At least, ano na ngayon, no? **[02:36:41.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004282) The use of technology, we can already monitor those **[02:36:44.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004283) that were incoming pa lang, **[02:36:46.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004284) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:36:47.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004285) and those outgoing. **[02:36:48.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004286) Lalo na kung, **[02:36:49.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004287) terrorist ba yan o fugitive. **[02:36:51.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004288) At least, those undesirable aliens will not be allowed anymore to enter. **[02:36:56.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004289) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:36:57.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004290) Wang ano lang, tanong lang, Mr. Chair, dahil ito'y PPP, **[02:37:00.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004291) paano sila, paano babawiin ang proponent **[02:37:03.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004292) or how will they, ano po ang income dito? **[02:37:08.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004293) Since it's a public-private partnership. **[02:37:11.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004294) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:37:12.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004295) Meron pong proposed service fee, **[02:37:14.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004296) which amounts to $4 per travel, **[02:37:17.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004297) per ano po, per kada biyahe po. **[02:37:20.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004298) So that's approximately about, **[02:37:22.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004299) One entry? **[02:37:24.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004300) Ano po, for one travel po. **[02:37:26.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004301) Kung round trip po yan, that's eight US dollars. **[02:37:31.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004302) Yes po. **[02:37:33.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004303) So that's approximately a little over 240 pesos. **[02:37:38.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004304) But if you can compare that to other countries, **[02:37:42.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004305) sa ibang bansa po kasi, **[02:37:44.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004306) Australia charges about 2,600. **[02:37:46.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004307) I was supposed to ask that, **[02:37:48.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004308) how does it compare to other countries, yung rates? **[02:37:50.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004309) Yes po, Your Honor. **[02:37:51.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004310) So paano sa ibang bansa, mas mata? **[02:37:53.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004311) Ang pinakamababa nga po, Your Honor, **[02:37:55.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004312) would be Japan, that's about 1,100 pesos, **[02:37:59.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004313) as compared to 242 sa atin. **[02:38:01.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004314) Ang Hong Kong charges about 1,400, 1,500. **[02:38:04.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004315) Ang Thailand, around 1,800. **[02:38:07.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004316) Ang Australia, 2,600. **[02:38:10.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004317) So ganyan po ang range. **[02:38:11.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004318) Ang Singapore is about 2,400. **[02:38:13.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004319) So yan po ang, ano po, **[02:38:15.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004320) yan po ang range ng mga sinisigil po ng ibang bansa. **[02:38:18.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004321) Maaring hindi po natin halita. **[02:38:20.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004322) Pero naka-integrate po yan sa, sa ano po natin, sa ticket. **[02:38:24.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004323) Sa airline ticket. **[02:38:26.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004324) So tayo ngayon, walang charge? **[02:38:29.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004325) Wala po tayong sinacharge, Your Honor. **[02:38:32.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004326) Parang ano rito, you know, kasi there's such a thing doon **[02:38:35.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004327) sa pag may financial company ka or banks, **[02:38:37.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004328) yung Credit Investigation Bureau. **[02:38:39.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004329) You pay, you, for a fee, you can get information, no? **[02:38:44.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004330) Para sa mga credit, sa mga credit, sa mga banks, financial institutions. **[02:38:48.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004331) So ito, parang in international community, **[02:38:52.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004332) baka kakakuha kayong information about persons, no? **[02:38:57.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004333) About yung kanila pong records, especially kung terrorism **[02:39:02.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004334) o ano man ang kanilang records, international records. **[02:39:05.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004335) Ito ba yun, ah? **[02:39:06.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004336) That's part of it na yung database? **[02:39:08.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004337) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:39:09.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004338) So ano to? **[02:39:11.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004339) Also for the protection and safety of everyone, no? **[02:39:15.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004340) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:39:16.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004341) Your Honor, as a matter of fact, we directed the private proponent **[02:39:20.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004342) to commence with the public consultation process. **[02:39:24.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004343) So ibig sabihin, ang mechanics po niyan, inaayos na po nila. **[02:39:27.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004344) Ang sabi nga po namin sa kanila, mag-ano tayo, magkaroon kayo ng, ah, **[02:39:32.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004345) ng public na ano, na, na paggamit po para masubukan po ng mga nakaka, ano po, **[02:39:39.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004346) nag-interesado at nakakalam kung paano po nag-working system. **[02:39:43.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004347) We're actually working on that. **[02:39:45.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004348) The proponent has been directed to do that, Your Honor. **[02:39:47.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004349) But it's still under evaluation, no? I presume. **[02:39:49.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004350) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:39:50.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004351) Yes, Your Honor. **[02:39:51.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004352) It's still under evaluation. **[02:39:53.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004353) It's still under contract, technical review. **[02:39:55.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004354) It's still undergoing the review process with the PPP Center, with the DOJ, **[02:40:01.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004355) with the Bureau of Immigration, Your Honor. **[02:40:04.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004356) Kasi baka mamaya sabihin ng mga pasahero, **[02:40:07.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004357) tatanggal. **[02:40:08.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004358) Tatanggal niyang travel tax, may bagong fee. **[02:40:10.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004359) But this will be, will this be charged to passengers? **[02:40:15.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004360) Sa mga travelers po, Your Honor. **[02:40:18.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004361) Sa mga travelers? **[02:40:19.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004362) It's a service fee, Yes, Your Honor. **[02:40:20.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004363) Service fee? **[02:40:21.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004364) Yes po. **[02:40:22.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004365) But under, it's now under evaluation? **[02:40:24.720] BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado** (asr-004366) Yes, po. It's under evaluation, Your Honor. **[02:40:27.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004367) Okay, ah, thank you. **[02:40:29.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004368) Siguro, Mr. Chair, thank you sa Commissioner Joel for at least na-elaborate niyo **[02:40:33.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004369) lalo niyo sa E-Gates issue and lahat sa KAIS. **[02:40:36.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004370) Ahm. **[02:40:37.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004371) Doon sa Witness Protection Program, siguro, ahm, ano lang, ahm, **[02:40:41.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004372) sik, no, yung, just like to us as Chair of Committee on Finance, **[02:40:44.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004373) ah, yung siguro na-recommend naman ating Vice Chair, **[02:40:47.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004374) yung pong, ah, yung inyong pong ano rito, **[02:40:50.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004375) yung inyong budget for your Witness Protection Program, **[02:40:54.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004376) is it enough already for 20, 27? **[02:40:57.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004377) Considering na medyo marami tayong tinatanggap dito, no? **[02:41:01.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004378) So, magkano bang budget natin ngayong taon? **[02:41:03.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004379) Magkano ang proposed budget next year? **[02:41:05.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004380) Para dito? **[02:41:07.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004381) Kasi, parang sa aming pagtingin, walang, essentially, walang change, walang dagdag, walang bawas, no? **[02:41:13.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004382) So, sa nabanggit. **[02:41:15.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004383) So, pero meron kayong additional request sa 500 million pero hindi na ibigay ng DBM, tama ba? **[02:41:22.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004384) Ang, the biggest part na nawala po dito is yung confidential fund, oh. **[02:41:30.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004385) Kasi we're, we're working on a budget of around 500 million for 2026. **[02:41:33.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004386) We will be really hard-pressed to continue with the same level of scaling yung aming engagements. **[02:41:45.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004387) Ongoing engagements, that's a problem po. **[02:41:47.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004388) So, if we can go back to 2026 levels, Your Honors, that's the basic request, Your Honor. **[02:41:55.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004389) So, ang wish niyo is just to go back to 2026 levels? **[02:41:59.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004390) 2026 levels. **[02:42:01.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004391) 2026 levels. **[02:42:02.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004392) 2026 levels. **[02:42:03.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004393) 2026 levels. **[02:42:04.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004394) So, I would like to ask, Secretary, because I want to know whether the department is anticipating more additional state witnesses, **[02:42:11.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004395) kasi alam ko ginagastusan ninyo rin ito, particularly in connection with the flood control investigations, no? **[02:42:18.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004396) Medyo na marami rin ito eh. **[02:42:20.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004397) So, yun pong, just like to ask, may dagdag ba tayo o sapat na ang kasalukuyang budget? **[02:42:27.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004398) These are variables that we cannot foretell or predict, Your Honor. **[02:42:31.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004399) Yes. **[02:42:32.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004400) So, given the current system we have, we will be able to take on more witnesses if necessary. **[02:42:39.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004401) Sanay naman po ang Department of Justice yan at yung program natin na pag maikli ang kumot po, babaluktot na lang po. **[02:42:47.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004402) Speaking of state witnesses, ano po ba ang malino na kriteriya bago i-admit ang mga accused bilang state witness? **[02:42:57.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004403) If I may ask, PG Dong, who's... **[02:43:00.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004404) PG Dong, lagi naman itong suki dito. **[02:43:04.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004405) So, aside from the value of testimony and evidence they can provide, do you consider the extent na kanilang participation sa krimen, kung magkano ang kanilang ibabalik? **[02:43:13.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004406) So, siguro, PG Dong, please. **[02:43:15.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004407) Yes, with the permission of the Secretary, Mr. Chair, yung doon muna sa issue po kung ano yung qualifications, kailangan po, hindi po lahat ng tao na nag-a-apply sa program are automatically admitted. **[02:43:28.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004408) There are certain qualifications among them. Number one, that the person, well, the case involves a grave, one where the penalty is a grave penalty. **[02:43:38.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004409) Number two, it also entails na yung sasabihin ng tao is substantially relevant, meron siyang kahalagahan doon sa kaso, and it can be corroborated on most of its material points. **[02:43:52.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004410) So, lastly, hindi siya yung pinaka-guilty doon sa kaso. **[02:43:58.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004411) Sa usapin naman po nung pagsasoli, hindi po yan nakasaad sa ating batas. It's not categorically stated that there is restitution. **[02:44:08.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004412) However, during po, kung halimbawa, after the evaluation at nakita na itong potential applicant is qualified, then ang mangyayari po is magkakaroon po sila ng kasunduan, a memorandum of agreement that will be signed between the applicant and the Secretary of Justice. **[02:44:26.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004413) Doon po, meron pong mga kondisyon o meron pong mga kasunduan na maaaring ilahad. At doon na po papasok yung usapin kung meron po tayong mga makukuha o meron silang isusoli bilang bahagi nung kanilang pag-a-apply po o pag-a-apply nila sa ating programa. **[02:44:50.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004414) May madadagdag pa pa tayo, Sek? Siguro quickly, dahil marami nagtatanong pa rito sa flood control. **[02:44:56.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004415) Sa mga makakasuhan na mga contractors, **[02:45:00.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004416) congressmen, kasi po, pasensya na po, pero yung cong-tractors, marami rito, ito yung mga nagsimula ng modus eh. **[02:45:08.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004417) Inaantay natin kung kailan sila matutuloyan dahil ayaw natin maulit muli ito. **[02:45:20.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004418) Well, sir, yung tulad po na sinabi ni Secretary of Justice, marami hung variables eh. **[02:45:25.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004419) Kasi even during the time when the cases are already filed in court, **[02:45:30.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004420) maari pong magpa-discharge pa rin ng isang akusado to become a state witness. **[02:45:35.200] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004421) And as a consequence, they are being admitted or asked to be admitted sa program. **[02:45:39.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004422) So yan po eh, depende sa kung ano po ang may dadagdag o may tutulong ng testimonya. **[02:45:45.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004423) Insofar as the other cases involving yung sa flood control, **[02:45:50.060] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004424) alam ko po marami pa pong mga kaso, marami na hung kasong na-file. **[02:45:53.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004425) There are about 14 live cases which have been filed, referred to the Office of the Ombudsman. **[02:45:58.540] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004426) At hinahawakan din po ng ating... **[02:46:00.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004427) mga prosecutors sa Department of Justice. **[02:46:02.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004428) But I believe that there are also cases which are being evaluated **[02:46:06.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004429) and continually being investigated by the National Bureau of Investigation. **[02:46:11.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004430) Ito po ay patuloy dahil hindi po nagtatapos doon sa mga naisampang kaso lang. **[02:46:16.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004431) Patuloy po na nangangalap ng ebidensya din po ang National Bureau of Investigation **[02:46:20.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004432) para matingnan po yung liability and who else can be held accountable. **[02:46:27.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004433) Okay, thank you. **[02:46:28.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004434) At least you may mention. **[02:46:30.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004435) At that time also na yung mga most guilty, hindi dapat pwede silang maging kasama rito. **[02:46:37.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004436) Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. **[02:46:40.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004437) Thank you. **[02:46:41.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004438) I just have a few more questions. **[02:46:44.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004439) Doon sa usapin ng... **[02:46:48.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004440) Well, just to follow up on the questions on restitution. **[02:46:54.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004441) I remember during the flood control hearings, **[02:46:56.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004442) si... **[02:47:00.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004443) Yusek Bonoan testified as to the... **[02:47:08.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004444) No, Bernardo. Yusek Bernardo testified as to the amounts that were turned over to Yusek, **[02:47:17.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004445) to Secretary Bonoan. **[02:47:23.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004446) And ang alam ko, mas malaki dito sa 1.841 million. **[02:47:30.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004447) So far na restitute. **[02:47:34.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004448) How are you moving forward with that in that regard? **[02:47:39.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004449) I mean, how do you reconcile that? **[02:47:41.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004450) I know it's not in the law, but if there was a testimony to that effect, **[02:47:46.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004451) and under oath, and a figure was, how do you call it, identified, **[02:47:56.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004452) in the context of the figures that you have restituted? **[02:48:01.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004453) Well, how do you decide that, okay, ito yung sinasabing dinilibre sa kanya, porsyento, **[02:48:10.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004454) 15% ba for every year? Can we get the data? **[02:48:13.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004455) ... **[02:48:15.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004456) 15% every year. **[02:48:17.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004457) So how much was that? **[02:48:19.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004458) Basta he gave a specific amount. **[02:48:22.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004459) 15% a year for three years? **[02:48:24.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004460) Like 15 days. **[02:48:26.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004461) ... **[02:48:30.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004462) 5 billion, okay. **[02:48:33.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004463) Every year, diba? **[02:48:35.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004464) 5 billion every year for three years was the testimony. **[02:48:39.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004465) 5 billion every year for three years was the testimony, of course, under oath. **[02:48:48.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004466) So if you have that data, and you have this amount, **[02:48:51.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004467) and you made him state witness, **[02:48:54.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004468) how do you reconcile the testimony of about 15 billion pesos received, **[02:49:04.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004469) whether true or not, we don't, well, you know, we will have to assume that **[02:49:07.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004470) he said it under oath unless there is proof to the contrary. **[02:49:14.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004471) How do you reconcile that as a matter of state policy? **[02:49:19.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004472) Mr. Chair, just a point of clarification. **[02:49:21.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004473) You're referring to Secretary? **[02:49:24.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004474) Secretary Bonoan, sir? **[02:49:26.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004475) My understanding, based on the testimony, because I was here, **[02:49:29.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004476) it was the testimony of Yusec Bernardo, **[02:49:32.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004477) who said that he turned over to Secretary Bonoan **[02:49:42.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004478) the amount of, yun na nga, every year for three years, 5 billion. **[02:49:48.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004479) So if his statement, unless rebutted, is evidence, **[02:49:54.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004480) then that's about 15 billion. **[02:49:57.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004481) Again, unless rebutted, no? **[02:50:00.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004482) But he is now a state witness. **[02:50:06.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004483) Both of them are state witnesses. **[02:50:08.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004484) So how do you, as a matter of state policy, **[02:50:11.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004485) policy of the state, how do you reconcile that? **[02:50:14.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004486) Mr. Chair, if I may clarify, **[02:50:16.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004487) insofar as the testimony of Undersecretary Bernardo, **[02:50:22.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004488) relative to the amounts paid to, **[02:50:24.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004489) or delivered to then Secretary Bonoan. **[02:50:29.120] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004490) I believe this, insofar as the admission **[02:50:32.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004491) or the declaration of Secretary Bonoan **[02:50:36.040] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004492) to be a state witness, **[02:50:37.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004493) the Department of Justice had nothing to do with that. **[02:50:40.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004494) He was not processed **[02:50:41.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004495) and he was not an applicant **[02:50:43.260] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004496) under the Witness Protection Program. **[02:50:45.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004497) So kinasuhan po, he was among those who was charged **[02:50:48.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004498) and I think when the case was filed **[02:50:51.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004499) before the Office of the Sandigan Bayan, ah, **[02:50:54.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004500) Office of the Ombudsman, which then **[02:50:56.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004501) in turn filed it with the Sandigan **[02:50:58.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004502) Bayan, it was only then **[02:51:00.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004503) that it was decided that he would be **[02:51:02.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004504) utilized as a state witness. **[02:51:04.400] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004505) That is a matter which is not visible **[02:51:06.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004506) to the department as to the conditions **[02:51:08.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004507) and if there is any **[02:51:10.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004508) offer of any return in the computation. **[02:51:13.500] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004509) Now, we can **[02:51:14.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004510) speak of **[02:51:15.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004511) the manner by which **[02:51:18.400] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004512) we make computations insofar **[02:51:20.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004513) as witnesses who offer **[02:51:22.380] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004514) to restitute or to return **[02:51:24.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004515) people's money. **[02:51:25.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004516) Tulad po ng halimbawa, **[02:51:27.240] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004517) kung halimbawa yung **[02:51:29.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004518) pagpalagay na natin si Sally Santos, **[02:51:33.100] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004519) we ask and we **[02:51:34.400] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004520) inquire based on the statement that were **[02:51:36.380] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004521) provided, for example, how many **[02:51:38.260] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004522) government projects she was involved **[02:51:40.540] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004523) in and how much the percentage **[02:51:42.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004524) is that she's supposed to have **[02:51:44.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004525) received per project. **[02:51:46.240] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004526) And on the basis of the **[02:51:47.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004527) declaration, and then we validate **[02:51:50.460] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004528) it also from the other **[02:51:51.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004529) respondents, dun po namin **[02:51:54.260] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004530) kinukompute kung magkano yung **[02:51:56.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004531) sinasabi nilang, o, **[02:51:57.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004532) magkano yung susoli ko. **[02:51:59.400] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004533) So, there is a basis, no? **[02:52:01.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004534) There is a basis for the computation. **[02:52:04.660] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004535) It's not a number which is just **[02:52:06.060] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-004536) plucked out from the air, po. **[02:52:07.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004537) If I may add, Mr. **[02:52:09.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004538) Yes, go ahead, Secretary. **[02:52:11.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004539) Ang maganda po dun sa agreement namin **[02:52:13.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004540) with the four current state witnesses, **[02:52:16.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004541) it's project specific. **[02:52:18.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004542) So, pag may nadiscovery pa ho **[02:52:19.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004543) ang gobyerno o ang pamahalaan **[02:52:21.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004544) na sangkot pa siya sa **[02:52:24.100] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004545) ibang project, kumita pa siya, **[02:52:25.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004546) hindi yun kasama. **[02:52:27.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004547) Specific lang po ito dun sa particular **[02:52:29.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004548) na proyekto na kung saan sinabi **[02:52:32.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004549) niya, kumita siya, **[02:52:33.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004550) pero inaamin niya na **[02:52:35.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004551) ito ay maling paraan ng **[02:52:37.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004552) pagkita, kaya ibinalik niya sa gobyerno. **[02:52:40.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004553) Okay, but I think **[02:52:42.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004554) even if this is **[02:52:43.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004555) not with the DOJ, the government **[02:52:45.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004556) has the obligation **[02:52:48.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004557) I think, to clarify, no? **[02:52:50.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004558) And reconcile that. **[02:52:52.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004559) But as you said, this is **[02:52:54.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004560) with the ombudsman's office **[02:52:55.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004561) rather than with the DOJ. **[02:52:59.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004562) Because we'd like to know. **[02:53:00.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004563) We're interested. **[02:53:02.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004564) If 15 billion was **[02:53:04.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004565) in fact **[02:53:04.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004566) the amounts that were **[02:53:07.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004567) spirited away, **[02:53:11.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004568) you know, how much was **[02:53:16.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004569) restituted, if any? **[02:53:18.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004570) Hindi ba? Anyway, **[02:53:20.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004571) that's something that **[02:53:21.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004572) perhaps the **[02:53:23.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004573) the **[02:53:24.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004574) chairman of the finance committee can ask **[02:53:26.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004575) the ombudsman. **[02:53:27.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004576) Or maybe in plenary. **[02:53:29.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004577) Anyway, we can proceed. **[02:53:33.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004578) A few more **[02:53:34.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004579) items lang. May we request **[02:53:36.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004580) a separate meeting before **[02:53:37.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004581) plenary **[02:53:38.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004582) with the secretary and the director **[02:53:41.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004583) on the issue of the smuggling **[02:53:44.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004584) of agriculture products. **[02:53:46.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004585) Like I said, I'm willing **[02:53:48.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004586) to meet you every day **[02:53:49.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004587) just to get this thing going **[02:53:51.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004588) moving forward. **[02:53:52.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004589) Because we **[02:53:53.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004590) we are in the process of finalizing **[02:53:55.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004591) our committee report on the **[02:53:57.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004592) agriculture smuggling that we **[02:53:59.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004593) had hearings that we had conducted **[02:54:01.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004594) on agriculture **[02:54:03.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004595) smuggling. **[02:54:05.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004596) And we'd like to get your inputs, **[02:54:07.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004597) Secretary. **[02:54:08.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004598) Yes, Your Honor. We will make ourselves available **[02:54:10.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004599) for that meeting. **[02:54:11.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004600) Okay, thank you. **[02:54:12.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004601) So that I don't have to discuss that here. **[02:54:14.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004602) The other item is **[02:54:16.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004603) the **[02:54:18.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004604) Sagip Saka law. **[02:54:20.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004605) For the information, **[02:54:22.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004606) we already wrote to you officially, **[02:54:24.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004607) for the information of our other **[02:54:28.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004608) resource persons, **[02:54:30.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004609) the Sagip **[02:54:32.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004610) Saka Act **[02:54:34.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004611) allows for government **[02:54:36.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004612) entities, both national and local, **[02:54:38.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004613) to purchase directly from farmers **[02:54:40.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004614) and fisherfolk organizations, **[02:54:42.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004615) accredited **[02:54:44.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004616) food **[02:54:46.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004617) and agriculture products for **[02:54:48.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004618) the different programs without **[02:54:50.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004619) being exempted from the law. **[02:54:52.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004620) For example, **[02:54:54.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004621) the **[02:54:56.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004622) the BJMP **[02:55:02.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004623) has purchased about **[02:55:04.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004624) 591 million **[02:55:06.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004625) 591 million worth of food **[02:55:08.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004626) directly **[02:55:10.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004627) from farmers and fisherfolk. **[02:55:12.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004628) In fact, one **[02:55:14.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004629) farmers organization in **[02:55:16.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004630) San Luis, **[02:55:18.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004631) Pampanga, sold **[02:55:20.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004632) to 13 **[02:55:22.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004633) million pesos worth of agriculture products **[02:55:24.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004634) to the jails. **[02:55:26.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004635) Both in Region 3 and NCR. **[02:55:28.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004636) Sorry, not 13, 7. **[02:55:30.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004637) And in that **[02:55:32.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004638) year, they sold **[02:55:34.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004639) 13 million pesos worth of agriculture products **[02:55:36.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004640) to the jails. **[02:55:38.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004641) And **[02:55:40.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004642) directly, wala ng public bidding. **[02:55:42.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004643) And **[02:55:44.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004644) sabi nung BJMP, **[02:55:46.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004645) hindi tulad dati nung hindi sila bumibili **[02:55:48.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004646) direkta sa mga **[02:55:50.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004647) sa mga magsasaka, **[02:55:52.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004648) parang **[02:55:54.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004649) ano yan? **[02:55:56.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004650) The term was kanin-baboy. **[02:55:58.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004651) Parang kanin-baboy yung hinahain **[02:56:00.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004652) na pagkain sa mga **[02:56:02.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004653) nasa persons with **[02:56:04.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004654) deprived of **[02:56:06.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004655) liberties, yung mga PDL. **[02:56:08.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004656) But because **[02:56:10.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004657) bumili na sila direkta sa farmers, **[02:56:12.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004658) 13 million **[02:56:14.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004659) pesos ang kinita nung **[02:56:16.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004660) isang farmers association, **[02:56:18.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004661) tapos masarap pa yung pagkain **[02:56:20.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004662) at sariwa. So that's **[02:56:22.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004663) one farmers organization. **[02:56:24.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004664) And the amount **[02:56:26.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004665) was 590 million. **[02:56:28.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004666) It also goes back to the local **[02:56:30.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004667) economy. **[02:56:32.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004668) So the local retail, **[02:56:34.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004669) mga sari-sari store, **[02:56:36.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004670) mga jeep, mga tricycle, **[02:56:38.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004671) mga retail store sa lugar, **[02:56:40.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004672) bumabalik yung pera, may panggastos. **[02:56:42.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004673) So we'd **[02:56:44.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004674) like to know, **[02:56:46.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004675) I understand the **[02:56:48.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004676) BuCor has about 2 billion pesos **[02:56:50.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004677) worth of food purchases. **[02:56:52.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004678) Hindi naman natin ilalahat, **[02:56:54.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004679) but at least a portion **[02:56:56.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004680) of that should be **[02:56:58.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004681) allocated **[02:57:00.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004682) to purchase rice **[02:57:02.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004683) perhaps or other **[02:57:04.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004684) agriculture products or food items **[02:57:06.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004685) sa ating mga magsasaka at **[02:57:08.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004686) mangingisda. The Quezon City **[02:57:10.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004687) Government, also because of the **[02:57:12.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004688) Sagipsaka Act, **[02:57:14.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004689) yung kanilang rice subsidy, **[02:57:16.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004690) they purchased about **[02:57:18.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004691) 500 million pesos worth of rice **[02:57:20.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004692) directly sa mga **[02:57:22.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004693) farmers associations under **[02:57:24.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004694) the Irrigators Association Network **[02:57:26.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004695) of the NIA. **[02:57:28.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004696) So direkta yun. **[02:57:30.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004697) In fact, **[02:57:32.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004698) the Quezon City Government, **[02:57:34.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004699) if they went through the regular **[02:57:36.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004700) bidding process, would have **[02:57:38.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004701) bought per kilo **[02:57:40.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004702) of rice about **[02:57:42.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004703) 65 pesos. **[02:57:44.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004704) But they bought it at 55 **[02:57:46.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004705) pesos directly wholesale. **[02:57:48.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004706) Sa mga farmers. **[02:57:50.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004707) And the total amount that they were **[02:57:52.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004708) able to save was **[02:57:54.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004709) had they, if they **[02:57:56.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004710) bought it from the bidding process, **[02:57:58.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004711) would have been additional 200 **[02:58:00.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004712) million pesos. **[02:58:02.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004713) So malaki **[02:58:04.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004714) ang epekto at direkta **[02:58:06.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004715) sa ating mga magsasaka. **[02:58:08.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004716) So, Bucor **[02:58:10.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004717) has 2 billion. **[02:58:12.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004718) Baka you can put in place a **[02:58:14.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004719) program similar to what **[02:58:16.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004720) the BJMP is doing. **[02:58:18.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004721) I know it's a little more complicated **[02:58:20.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004722) because mas nasyonal, **[02:58:22.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004723) malaki, BJMP is more **[02:58:24.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004724) decentralized. But **[02:58:26.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004725) would you care to comment, **[02:58:28.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004726) Secretary Vida and **[02:58:30.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004727) General Greg? **[02:58:32.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004728) Yes, thank you very much, Your Honor. **[02:58:34.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004729) We do acknowledge the benefit **[02:58:36.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004730) for everyone, all sectors, **[02:58:38.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004731) farmers natin, especially **[02:58:40.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004732) yung procurement namin, mas magiging **[02:58:42.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004733) madali. And we also acknowledge **[02:58:44.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004734) the **[02:58:46.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004735) mandate under our Republic Act **[02:58:48.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004736) number 11321. **[02:58:50.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004737) Pursuant to it, **[02:58:52.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004738) Executive Order 101 **[02:58:54.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004739) was also issued, series of 2025. **[02:58:56.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004740) And also our **[02:58:58.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004741) GPPB, circular, number **[02:59:00.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004742) 02-2025. **[02:59:02.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004743) Given this, the Office **[02:59:04.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004744) of the Secretary has already **[02:59:06.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004745) requested all the **[02:59:08.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004746) attached agencies to submit **[02:59:10.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004747) all **[02:59:12.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004748) purchases, all projects related **[02:59:14.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004749) to this. But to make this **[02:59:16.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004750) permanent, to make **[02:59:18.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004751) it scalable, **[02:59:20.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004752) and to be a continuing **[02:59:22.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004753) effort of the DOJ family, **[02:59:24.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004754) the Office of the **[02:59:26.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004755) Secretary will be issuing **[02:59:28.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004756) soon, subject to **[02:59:30.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004757) legal scrubbing and vetting, **[02:59:32.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004758) a department circular, which will **[02:59:34.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004759) give guidelines on the **[02:59:36.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004760) implementation of the **[02:59:38.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004761) provisions of the Sagib-Saka Act. **[02:59:40.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004762) Basically, at ang **[02:59:42.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004763) critical dito, Your Honor, is **[02:59:44.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004764) coming up with an annual report **[02:59:46.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004765) so that we can guide **[02:59:48.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004766) you. We also check **[02:59:50.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004767) ourselves, we also **[02:59:52.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004768) will be able to give that report **[02:59:54.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004769) to Your Honor and to the Senate **[02:59:56.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004770) so that we get a monitoring **[02:59:58.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004771) and see the real benefit. **[03:00:00.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004772) of the provisions **[03:00:01.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-004773) of Sagip Saka Act, Your Honor. **[03:00:04.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004774) Thank you. **[03:00:05.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004775) Subject to that submission. **[03:00:09.640] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004776) With the permission of our **[03:00:11.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004777) Secretary. Yes, Secretary **[03:00:13.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004778) Greg Tuloy. **[03:00:15.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004779) Senator Tuloy. **[03:00:18.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004780) General. Yes, sir. **[03:00:20.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004781) Greg, go ahead. **[03:00:22.880] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004782) On the part **[03:00:23.860] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004783) of Bucor, we bid **[03:00:25.740] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004784) out the food **[03:00:27.180] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004785) amounting to 100 **[03:00:29.580] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004786) pesos per day. **[03:00:32.060] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004787) But the bidding process **[03:00:33.740] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004788) will require **[03:00:34.960] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004789) the **[03:00:35.780] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004790) one who is the winning bidder **[03:00:39.660] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004791) to buy, procure, acquire **[03:00:41.680] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004792) farm products from the local **[03:00:43.600] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004793) farmer cooperatives of the **[03:00:45.620] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004794) OPPFs. And also **[03:00:47.680] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004795) we'd like to inform our **[03:00:49.320] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004796) good Senator that our **[03:00:51.080] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004797) PDLs are also farmers. **[03:00:53.380] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004798) We have about **[03:00:54.880] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004799) 32,000 hectares of **[03:00:56.860] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004800) farmland. That's why we call **[03:00:59.440] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004801) our OPPFs **[03:01:01.020] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004802) operating prison and **[03:01:03.400] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004803) penal farms. So **[03:01:04.520] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004804) all over the **[03:01:06.460] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004805) colonies that we have, we have **[03:01:09.420] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004806) penal farms. We also produce our **[03:01:11.480] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004807) own food. And hopefully **[03:01:13.380] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004808) in the future, it will be the **[03:01:15.320] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004809) PDLs who will **[03:01:16.600] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004810) provide food for them. **[03:01:20.140] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004811) Para po, mas **[03:01:21.180] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004812) masustansya ang kanilang **[03:01:23.260] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004813) pagkain. But the local **[03:01:24.840] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004814) in fact, we have **[03:01:27.420] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004815) already a joint venture with the Department **[03:01:29.360] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004816) of Agriculture. Yes, yes. **[03:01:31.780] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004817) Kaya so kuminsang may sobra pa po **[03:01:33.420] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004818) kaming pagkain. Meron po **[03:01:35.400] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004819) kaming weekly na **[03:01:37.180] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004820) bilihan ng **[03:01:39.800] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004821) bayan. Mura yung pagkain. **[03:01:41.700] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004822) Nakakatulong po kami. We want to be part **[03:01:43.480] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004823) of the food security **[03:01:44.540] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004824) of our country, yung mga PDLs. **[03:01:47.420] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004825) Because they have the **[03:01:48.540] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004826) know-how and they are there **[03:01:51.380] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004827) in the farms and they can produce food **[03:01:53.320] BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.** (asr-004828) for our country. Baka naman **[03:01:55.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004829) once they have completed the **[03:01:57.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004830) service of their sentence, hindi na sila aalik. **[03:01:59.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004831) Dahil **[03:02:00.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004832) meron na silang **[03:02:03.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004833) pagsasakahan. **[03:02:06.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004834) But anyway, can you **[03:02:07.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004835) submit to us the **[03:02:08.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004836) documentation? Because **[03:02:11.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004837) we'd like to see, no? **[03:02:13.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004838) We're trying to document **[03:02:14.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004839) for example, **[03:02:17.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004840) magkana yung total na sila? **[03:02:19.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004841) 11 billion. **[03:02:19.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004841-split-2) ... **[03:02:21.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004842) ... **[03:02:23.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004843) Because, what year is that? **[03:02:25.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004844) ... **[03:02:27.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004845) As of September 2026. **[03:02:29.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004846) Based on the data that has been **[03:02:31.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004847) forwarded to us, about 11.6 **[03:02:33.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004848) billion pesos worth of **[03:02:35.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004849) agri-products has been purchased **[03:02:37.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004850) by the national and local governments **[03:02:39.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004851) sa ating farmers and fisher folk **[03:02:41.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004852) directly because of **[03:02:43.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004853) this law. But the data **[03:02:45.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004854) given us by DBM, **[03:02:47.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004855) their estimate is about **[03:02:49.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004856) 170 plus **[03:02:51.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004857) billion pesos **[03:02:53.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004858) worth of food is purchased **[03:02:55.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004859) by the entire **[03:02:57.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004860) government. **[03:02:59.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004861) Every year. **[03:03:01.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004862) So, if you think about it, **[03:03:04.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004863) in the realm of **[03:03:05.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004864) what is possible, **[03:03:08.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004865) wala na dapat magsasaka at **[03:03:09.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004866) mangingisda na mahirap. **[03:03:12.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004867) Dahil gobyerno pa lang, **[03:03:14.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004868) hindi na silang mawawalan **[03:03:15.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004869) ng pagbibentahan. **[03:03:17.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004870) So, and critical for **[03:03:19.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004871) our farmers is **[03:03:21.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004872) that the produce is **[03:03:23.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004873) purchased at the right **[03:03:25.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004874) price. Hindi yung **[03:03:27.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004875) binabarat sila. **[03:03:29.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004876) Bigos ang nangyayari. Dahil sila **[03:03:31.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004877) binabarat, **[03:03:33.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004878) pinabubulok na lang yung mga kamatis **[03:03:35.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004879) dahil wala naman **[03:03:37.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004880) bibili na lang ng apat na piso **[03:03:39.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004881) isang kilo, **[03:03:41.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004882) eh pag kumuha pa sila ng labor **[03:03:43.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004883) para anihin, **[03:03:45.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004884) gagasos pa sila ng labor, **[03:03:48.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004885) tapos 4 pesos, **[03:03:49.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004886) eh pabubulokin na lang nila. **[03:03:51.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004887) Dahil lugi na sila. **[03:03:53.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004888) Pero kung nandyan ang gobyerno **[03:03:55.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004889) na bibili direkta sa kanila, **[03:03:57.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004890) ay malaking bagay. **[03:03:59.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004891) Hindi lang sila, hindi magtatanim **[03:04:01.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004892) para sa pang-araw-araw, **[03:04:03.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004893) magtatanim sila at mag-aarkila **[03:04:05.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004894) pa siguro ng **[03:04:06.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004895) equipment o kaya bibili **[03:04:09.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004896) o kaya mapapautang, **[03:04:12.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004897) magdadagdag ng **[03:04:12.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004898) trabahante, kasi may market **[03:04:15.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004899) sila na bibilin sa tamang **[03:04:17.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004900) presyo. **[03:04:19.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004901) And for all of us, actually, **[03:04:21.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004902) we did a study, **[03:04:24.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004903) the cost of bringing **[03:04:25.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004904) vegetables **[03:04:27.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004905) from Baguio, **[03:04:29.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004906) to Manila, **[03:04:30.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004907) is about, today, about 10 pesos **[03:04:33.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004908) per kilo. **[03:04:35.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004909) Because of, in other words, **[03:04:37.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004910) if you buy it, binibenta noon **[03:04:39.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004911) ng 4, **[03:04:40.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004912) 4 na piso, 1 kilo, **[03:04:42.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004913) ang kamatis last year, **[03:04:45.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004914) pag dinagdagan mo ng 10 piso, **[03:04:47.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004915) dapat yung kamatis dito **[03:04:49.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004916) sa Manila, **[03:04:51.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004917) eh 15 pesos per kilo. **[03:04:53.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004918) Dagdagan mo na lang ng **[03:04:55.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004919) ng doble, **[03:04:57.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004920) eh 30 pesos sa kilo **[03:04:59.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004921) para meron kang kita. **[03:05:01.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004922) Pero, at the same time, **[03:05:03.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004923) ang bentahan ng kamatis dito sa Metro **[03:05:05.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004924) Manila was 90 pesos sa kilo. **[03:05:08.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004925) In other words, **[03:05:10.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004926) merong **[03:05:11.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004927) 60 pesos margin. **[03:05:14.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004928) Diba? **[03:05:16.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004929) Malaki ang pera **[03:05:17.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004930) sa agrikultura. **[03:05:20.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004931) Malaki ang problema **[03:05:21.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004932) na mahal **[03:05:23.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004933) ang pagkain. May kumikita **[03:05:25.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004934) ng limpak-limpak **[03:05:27.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004935) na salapi, **[03:05:27.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004936) habang ginugutom **[03:05:30.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004937) ang magsasaka, at **[03:05:31.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004938) tayong lahat ay nagbabayad **[03:05:34.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004939) ng doble hanggang triple **[03:05:35.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004940) sa presyo ng pagkain. **[03:05:38.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004941) So, anyway, **[03:05:39.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004942) and one way of doing that **[03:05:42.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004943) is providing them the necessary **[03:05:44.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004944) access to the markets para **[03:05:46.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004945) gumanda ang kanilang kita, magtanim pa sila, **[03:05:49.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004946) gumanda ang supply ng pagkain, **[03:05:51.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004947) pag maganda na ang supply ng pagkain, **[03:05:52.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004948) bababa ang presyo ng pagkain. **[03:05:54.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004949) Lahat tayo makikinabang. **[03:05:57.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004950) And finally, **[03:05:57.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004951) so we will request for the **[03:06:00.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004952) submission **[03:06:01.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004953) of this, of your **[03:06:04.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004954) program, and we will **[03:06:06.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004955) look at how much **[03:06:07.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004956) of your budget actually goes to **[03:06:10.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004957) farmers and fisher folk. Kasi baka **[03:06:12.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004958) nga, bidding yan. **[03:06:15.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004959) I mean, pag-aralan ninyo, baka kasi **[03:06:16.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004960) pwedeng, a portion of it **[03:06:18.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004961) is bid out, while **[03:06:20.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004962) a portion of it is a direct purchase **[03:06:22.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004963) by the, **[03:06:23.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004964) by, diba? **[03:06:26.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004965) By the BuCor, **[03:06:27.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004966) or, in other words, hybrid siya. **[03:06:31.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004967) And, **[03:06:32.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004968) you will have a lot of LGUs. **[03:06:35.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004969) Lalo na, Nueva Ecija, **[03:06:37.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004970) Tardlac, **[03:06:38.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004971) Pangasinan, **[03:06:40.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004972) na pwedeng direktang **[03:06:41.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004973) makipag-ugnayan sa inyo para yung farmers **[03:06:44.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004974) group sila, sa inyo na, de-direcho. **[03:06:46.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004975) Sariwa pa. **[03:06:48.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004976) You know, nung **[03:06:48.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004977) dumirekta ang Isabela **[03:06:52.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004978) at dineliver sa mga LGUs **[03:06:54.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004979) sa Metro Manila **[03:06:56.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004980) yung kanilang bigas, **[03:06:57.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004981) ang tawag doon, Isabela Rice, **[03:07:00.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004982) mabango. **[03:07:01.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004983) Diba? **[03:07:02.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004984) Iyon yung pinagbigay na ayuda **[03:07:04.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004985) during COVID. **[03:07:05.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004986) After that, ayaw na nila nung **[03:07:07.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004987) NFA Rice eh. **[03:07:08.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004988) Kasi, ang bango-bango daw nung **[03:07:10.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004989) Isabela Rice, tsaka malagkit pa. **[03:07:13.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004990) So, we all benefit from **[03:07:14.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004991) supply chains that are seamless. **[03:07:18.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004992) And finally, **[03:07:20.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004993) actually, **[03:07:21.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004994) two more points. **[03:07:23.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004995) We'd like to clarify **[03:07:25.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004996) your conviction and, **[03:07:26.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004997) well, **[03:07:27.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004998) your case, **[03:07:31.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-004999) your conviction rates, **[03:07:32.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005000) or success. **[03:07:33.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005001) Kasi, based on your data, **[03:07:37.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005002) 90 plus percent, **[03:07:38.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005003) what is the term? **[03:07:40.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005004) What is the term? **[03:07:46.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005005) Success rate. **[03:07:48.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005006) But success rate is not **[03:07:50.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005007) conviction rate. **[03:07:51.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005008) These are two different **[03:07:53.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005009) numbers. **[03:07:55.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005010) My understanding is, **[03:07:59.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005011) your prosecution success rate **[03:08:01.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005012) so far **[03:08:02.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005013) in 2026 is **[03:08:04.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005014) 91 percent. **[03:08:07.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005015) But your conviction rate **[03:08:09.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005016) is 59 percent. **[03:08:12.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005017) The year before, **[03:08:14.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005018) 2025, your success rate **[03:08:16.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005019) prosecution **[03:08:17.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005020) was 90.8 percent, **[03:08:22.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005021) but your conviction rate was **[03:08:23.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005022) 44.7%. **[03:08:25.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005023) So, what is the **[03:08:28.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005024) international standard **[03:08:29.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005025) of conviction rates? **[03:08:32.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005026) Because if this is correct, **[03:08:35.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005027) then, **[03:08:35.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005028) you're only convicting **[03:08:38.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005029) less than 50 percent **[03:08:39.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005030) of the cases that are **[03:08:41.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005031) prosecuted. **[03:08:42.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005032) Tama ba yun? **[03:08:45.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005033) So, **[03:08:46.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005034) we'd like to, **[03:08:48.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005035) you know, **[03:08:49.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005036) if that's correct, **[03:08:50.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005037) then, how, **[03:08:51.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005038) my question is, **[03:08:52.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005039) how do we increase **[03:08:53.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005040) the conviction rates? **[03:08:54.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005041) Because the international **[03:08:55.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005042) standard, **[03:08:56.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005043) if I'm not mistaken, **[03:08:57.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005044) is about 80. **[03:08:58.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005045) 80 percent **[03:08:59.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005046) to 90 percent. **[03:09:01.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005047) Sa Japan ata, **[03:09:03.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005048) 90 percent **[03:09:03.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005049) ang conviction rate nila. **[03:09:07.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005050) Of course, **[03:09:07.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005051) we need to get, **[03:09:08.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005052) validate that data, **[03:09:09.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005053) but this is taken from **[03:09:11.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005054) chat GPT **[03:09:12.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005055) or AI. **[03:09:14.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005056) So, we have to validate that. **[03:09:16.660] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005057) But mataas, **[03:09:17.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005058) 70 percent, **[03:09:18.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005059) 80 percent conviction rates. **[03:09:20.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005060) This is conviction. **[03:09:21.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005061) So, could you clarify that? **[03:09:23.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005062) And we'd like to know, **[03:09:24.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005063) if that's the case, **[03:09:25.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005064) if that is true, **[03:09:25.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005065) that it's 44 percent. **[03:09:28.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005066) We'd like to see **[03:09:29.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005067) improvement **[03:09:30.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005068) in that regard. **[03:09:33.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005069) And, **[03:09:33.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005070) if you agree with me, **[03:09:35.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005071) that it needs improvement, **[03:09:38.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005072) what do you intend, **[03:09:38.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005073) how do you intend **[03:09:39.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005074) to go about it? **[03:09:43.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005075) So, while you're going **[03:09:44.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005076) through that, **[03:09:45.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005077) Yusek, **[03:09:46.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005078) Marco, **[03:09:47.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005079) do you have the provision **[03:09:48.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005080) that we requested? **[03:09:51.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005081) Yes, Your Honor. **[03:09:52.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005082) What does the local **[03:09:53.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005083) government code say? **[03:09:54.180] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005084) The local government code **[03:09:55.080] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005085) in particular section 17 **[03:09:57.080] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005086) requires the local government units **[03:09:59.080] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005087) to endeavor to be self-reliant **[03:10:00.660] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005088) and it provides for, **[03:10:02.620] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005089) it should provide basic services **[03:10:04.160] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005090) enumerated under section 17 letter, **[03:10:09.320] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005091) let number three, **[03:10:10.720] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005092) sub-item six. **[03:10:12.220] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005093) It provides for provincial buildings **[03:10:14.620] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005094) and provincial jails, **[03:10:16.300] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005095) Your Honor. **[03:10:16.720] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005096) So, that requires, **[03:10:18.200] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005097) the local government code requires **[03:10:19.580] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005098) that the provincial jails, **[03:10:20.640] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005099) the provinces actually manage **[03:10:23.420] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005100) and own provincial jails. **[03:10:25.080] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005101) In the past, **[03:10:26.480] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005102) Your Honors, **[03:10:27.120] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005103) we have been getting, **[03:10:28.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005104) Does it say manage and own? **[03:10:31.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005105) It just says, **[03:10:32.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005106) should have, **[03:10:32.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005107) should provide? **[03:10:34.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005108) Provide for the basic services. **[03:10:35.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005109) What was your first line? **[03:10:37.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005110) What was your first phrase? **[03:10:39.200] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005111) Local government units **[03:10:39.980] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005112) shall endeavor to be self-reliant. **[03:10:41.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005113) Shall endeavor. **[03:10:42.200] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005114) Shall endeavor to be self-reliant **[03:10:43.500] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005115) and shall be self-reliant. **[03:10:45.380] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005116) Correct, Mr. Chair. **[03:10:46.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005117) It doesn't say, **[03:10:47.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005118) shall be self-reliant. **[03:10:49.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005119) It says, **[03:10:49.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005120) it shall endeavor. **[03:10:51.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005121) Which means, **[03:10:52.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005122) if it cannot, **[03:10:53.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005123) it will attempt, **[03:10:55.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005124) to endeavor, **[03:10:55.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005125) but it is. **[03:10:56.880] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005126) Yes, Your Honor. **[03:10:57.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005127) So, the mandate is not exclusive. **[03:10:59.960] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005128) That is correct, Your Honor. **[03:11:01.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005129) So, you can have an executive order **[03:11:03.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005130) that will transfer BJMP **[03:11:05.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005131) to the DOJ. **[03:11:06.780] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005132) Yes, Your Honor. **[03:11:07.380] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005133) We are about to draft that EO **[03:11:08.560] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005134) ready for approval **[03:11:09.320] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005135) by the President, Your Honor. **[03:11:10.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005136) Yeah. **[03:11:10.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005137) In other words, **[03:11:13.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005138) the primary, **[03:11:16.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005139) it does not say that the LGUs **[03:11:18.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005140) have primary responsibility **[03:11:21.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005141) for the jails. **[03:11:23.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005142) Yes, Your Honor. **[03:11:25.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005143) They shall maintain, **[03:11:26.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005144) they shall, **[03:11:27.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005145) so, pwede. **[03:11:28.440] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005146) Based on our study, Your Honor, **[03:11:29.640] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005147) we have legal basis **[03:11:30.400] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005148) for the President **[03:11:31.080] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005149) to actually issue the EO. **[03:11:32.720] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005150) This has been done before **[03:11:33.600] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005151) during the time of Fidel Ramos. **[03:11:35.740] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005152) He issued an EO **[03:11:36.500] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005153) transferring the Philippine Coast Guard **[03:11:38.460] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005154) from the Philippine Navy **[03:11:39.940] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005155) to the office of the President **[03:11:41.300] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005156) and then he later on **[03:11:42.700] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005157) was transferred to the office **[03:11:43.640] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005158) of the DOTR. **[03:11:45.580] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005159) So, there's a President, **[03:11:46.700] DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco** (asr-005160) Mr. Chair. **[03:11:47.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005161) Yes. **[03:11:48.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005162) Okay, good. **[03:11:49.080] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005163) So, when do you intend **[03:11:50.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005164) to implement that, **[03:11:51.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005165) Secretary Vida? **[03:11:53.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005166) Do you have at least **[03:11:54.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005167) a working deadline? **[03:11:57.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005168) Yes, yes. **[03:11:58.820] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005169) Gives a clear roadmap na po, **[03:12:01.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005170) Your Honor, **[03:12:02.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005171) on the matter. **[03:12:03.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005172) And if I understand it correctly, **[03:12:06.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005173) Secretary Remulia, **[03:12:08.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005174) that's not an object. **[03:12:10.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005175) Diba? **[03:12:10.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005176) He supports it. **[03:12:11.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005177) Diba? **[03:12:11.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005178) I think that was **[03:12:12.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005179) what was earlier mentioned. **[03:12:13.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005180) Okay, good. **[03:12:14.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005181) So, you should be able **[03:12:15.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005182) to do that soon. **[03:12:17.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005183) We did it **[03:12:18.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005184) as soon as, **[03:12:20.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005185) before I sat **[03:12:21.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005186) as Secretary of Food Security, **[03:12:24.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005187) the EO was **[03:12:26.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005188) issued, **[03:12:28.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005189) nilipat lahat **[03:12:29.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005190) ng apat na agencies **[03:12:30.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005191) from DA to **[03:12:31.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005192) to OP. **[03:12:34.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005193) So, madali na yun. **[03:12:36.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005194) That can happen **[03:12:37.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005195) before the end of the year **[03:12:38.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005196) if you really want it. **[03:12:40.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005197) If the President **[03:12:41.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005198) really wants it. **[03:12:43.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005199) Okay. **[03:12:44.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005200) So, **[03:12:45.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005201) my last question, **[03:12:46.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005202) the conviction rates. **[03:12:47.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005203) Go ahead. **[03:12:48.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005204) Data for 2025. **[03:12:52.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005205) Total number of **[03:12:53.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005206) decided court cases, **[03:12:54.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005207) is 404,124. **[03:12:58.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005208) Pag tinignan po natin nun, **[03:12:59.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005209) ang data natin, **[03:13:00.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005210) 180,000 of those cases **[03:13:02.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005211) were convictions. **[03:13:04.940] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005212) No? **[03:13:06.460] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005213) That's 44%. **[03:13:07.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005214) Pero meron pa hong yung **[03:13:09.420] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005215) acquital na 18,234. **[03:13:13.300] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005216) Meron pa rin compromise **[03:13:14.580] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005217) or those successfully mediated, **[03:13:17.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005218) 23,017. **[03:13:19.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005219) Meron din po yung court **[03:13:20.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005220) na in-archive **[03:13:21.420] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005221) na 30,000 **[03:13:23.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005222) and transfer 14,000. **[03:13:24.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005223) Yung transfer po **[03:13:26.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005224) ng jurisdiction. **[03:13:27.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005225) So, 44 as against **[03:13:29.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005226) sa 56%. **[03:13:30.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005227) 56% were disposed **[03:13:33.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005228) by the court. **[03:13:34.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005229) Iba hong naging ruta. **[03:13:36.520] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005230) Iba hong naging conclusion. **[03:13:38.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005231) Sana po tayo papunta **[03:13:39.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005232) dun sa conviction rate natin. **[03:13:41.440] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005233) Nung inilabas po **[03:13:42.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005234) ng Department of Justice, **[03:13:44.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005235) yung atin pong **[03:13:45.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005236) pagtataas ng antas **[03:13:47.100] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005237) ng pag-file ng kaso. **[03:13:49.640] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005238) Ito po yung **[03:13:50.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005239) prima facie evidence **[03:13:52.500] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005240) with reasonable certainty **[03:13:54.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005241) of conviction. **[03:13:54.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005242) Nakita na po namin **[03:13:56.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005243) epekto. Bakit po? **[03:13:57.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005244) Ngayon, 2026 po, **[03:13:59.620] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005245) first semester, **[03:14:00.800] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005246) yung 44.75, **[03:14:03.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005247) 59.21 na po **[03:14:04.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005248) ang conviction rate natin. **[03:14:07.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005249) Yes, almost 60%. **[03:14:10.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005250) Okay. **[03:14:12.220] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005251) So, ito po ay isa sa mga **[03:14:14.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005252) reforma, isa sa mga **[03:14:16.040] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005253) inisiyatibo para mapataas natin. **[03:14:18.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005254) Ang maganda po dito, **[03:14:20.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005255) nakikita rin namin yung **[03:14:21.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005256) pagbawas ng kaso **[03:14:22.920] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005257) na nakakarating na sa korte. **[03:14:24.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005258) Bakit po? **[03:14:26.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005259) Dahil nga, **[03:14:26.860] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005260) kung mas mataas na yung antas **[03:14:28.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005261) bago namin sila **[03:14:29.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005262) ma-file na ng information, **[03:14:32.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005263) yung hindi dapat kasuhan, **[03:14:33.560] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005264) hindi na namin **[03:14:34.120] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005265) kinakasuhan. **[03:14:35.780] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005266) At ang maganda dito, **[03:14:37.280] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005267) yung access to legal service, **[03:14:39.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005268) Your Honor. **[03:14:40.260] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005269) Kasi alam naman natin, **[03:14:41.480] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005270) dati nung probable cause, **[03:14:43.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005271) pag tinarget ka **[03:14:45.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005272) at gusto kang victimahin **[03:14:47.960] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005273) ng isang complainant **[03:14:49.580] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005274) na merong kakayanang **[03:14:50.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005275) kumuha ng abogado **[03:14:52.180] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005276) at ikaw ay walang kakayanan, **[03:14:54.880] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005277) probable cause lang **[03:14:55.680] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005278) may kaso ka na. **[03:14:57.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005279) At dahil wala kang kakayanang **[03:14:58.720] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005280) kumuha ng efektib. **[03:15:00.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005281) at magaling. **[03:15:02.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005282) Masasalamat po tayo **[03:15:03.140] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005283) na dyan po lagi **[03:15:03.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005284) ang ating public attorney's office **[03:15:05.840] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005285) na gumagana po **[03:15:07.540] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005286) sa kanilang tungkulin. **[03:15:09.660] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005287) Pero, **[03:15:10.400] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005288) isa po na natugunan nito **[03:15:12.440] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005289) yung access po **[03:15:13.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005290) to legal service. **[03:15:15.320] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005291) We make it **[03:15:16.200] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005292) equitable **[03:15:17.600] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005293) para yung ating po **[03:15:19.160] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005294) mga prosecutor o piskal **[03:15:20.900] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005295) ay may kakayanang **[03:15:21.980] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005296) mag-dismiss na. **[03:15:23.360] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005297) Hindi naman to **[03:15:24.080] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005298) kayang ipanalo. **[03:15:25.440] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005299) Dinidismiss na po. **[03:15:26.700] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005300) Kaya yung malalakas na kaso **[03:15:28.240] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005301) lamang po **[03:15:28.740] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005302) ang ating finafile ngayon **[03:15:30.000] DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida** (asr-005303) sa ating mga husgado. **[03:15:31.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005304) I think that's the **[03:15:33.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005305) that's the trend worldwide. **[03:15:35.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005306) Di ba? **[03:15:37.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005307) When you file the case **[03:15:38.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005308) that's precisely a **[03:15:40.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005309) strong case. **[03:15:42.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005310) Kaya nag na 90% conviction rate **[03:15:44.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005311) ang 90 plus percent **[03:15:45.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005312) conviction rate **[03:15:46.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005313) ang Japan, for example. **[03:15:48.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005314) Dahil nga dun. **[03:15:49.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005315) In fact, **[03:15:51.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005316) 95 pa ata Singapore eh. **[03:15:53.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005317) 95% conviction. **[03:15:55.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005318) So once the case is filed **[03:15:56.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005319) it's a strong case. **[03:15:57.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005320) Therefore, the certainty **[03:15:58.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005321) of conviction. **[03:15:59.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005322) Go ahead. **[03:16:00.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005323) Yes. **[03:16:00.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005324) Yes, sir. **[03:16:02.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005325) Sir, the **[03:16:03.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005326) change in the quantum of evidence **[03:16:05.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005327) was only in 2023. **[03:16:07.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005328) But as early as now **[03:16:09.280] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005329) we're already seeing **[03:16:10.320] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005330) the difference in the output **[03:16:12.200] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005331) as far as convictions **[03:16:13.860] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005332) are concerned **[03:16:14.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005333) and as far as number of cases **[03:16:16.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005334) which are filed. **[03:16:17.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005335) So yung nakikita po **[03:16:18.540] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005336) nating datos dito **[03:16:19.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005337) karamihan pa po dito **[03:16:20.720] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005338) were the ones filed **[03:16:21.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005339) under the old **[03:16:22.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005340) regime where we were **[03:16:25.660] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005341) following simply probable cause. **[03:16:28.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005342) Ang kagandahan lang nito, sir, **[03:16:30.380] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005343) medyo **[03:16:30.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005344) siyempre there are a lot of adjustments **[03:16:33.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005345) not only on the part of the prosecution **[03:16:35.620] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005346) but also on the part of law enforcement. **[03:16:38.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005347) Because one of the mandates **[03:16:40.060] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005348) and one of the requirements **[03:16:42.040] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005349) let's say for example **[03:16:42.880] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005350) of the department circular issued **[03:16:44.540] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005351) by the Secretary of Justice **[03:16:45.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005352) yung closer coordination **[03:16:47.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005353) collaboration between prosecutors **[03:16:50.280] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005354) and law enforcers **[03:16:51.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005355) at the very inception of the case **[03:16:54.460] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005356) is one which **[03:16:56.040] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005357) actually requires a certain **[03:16:58.000] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005358) model of control. **[03:16:58.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005359) It's not only the **[03:16:58.940] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005360) mindset or shift **[03:16:59.900] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005361) dun sa mindset na **[03:17:01.420] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005362) yung kung dati **[03:17:02.780] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005363) ang prosecutor **[03:17:04.020] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005364) naghihintay lamang **[03:17:05.020] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005365) ng kaso na i-file **[03:17:05.980] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005366) o dalhin sa kanila **[03:17:06.840] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005367) at dati **[03:17:08.760] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005368) bahala na **[03:17:09.580] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005369) ang law enforcement **[03:17:10.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005370) na gumangalap **[03:17:11.180] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005371) ng ebidensya. **[03:17:12.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005372) Ngayon po **[03:17:12.820] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005373) sa simula pa lang **[03:17:13.740] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005374) ay naguusap **[03:17:14.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005375) at nagtutulungan na **[03:17:15.780] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005376) it comes out **[03:17:17.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005377) that we have **[03:17:18.700] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005378) a better case. **[03:17:19.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005379) But there are still **[03:17:20.520] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005380) adjustments. **[03:17:21.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005381) There's still a lot of room **[03:17:22.280] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005382) for improvement **[03:17:22.980] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005383) in terms of the coordination **[03:17:24.560] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005384) because **[03:17:25.100] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005385) it's not only **[03:17:26.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005386) the NBI **[03:17:27.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005387) it's not only **[03:17:28.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005388) the NBI **[03:17:28.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005389) or the PNP **[03:17:28.980] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005390) there are other **[03:17:29.780] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005391) law enforcement agencies **[03:17:31.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005392) like the PIDEA **[03:17:32.160] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005393) we have **[03:17:33.120] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005394) enforcement agencies **[03:17:34.360] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005395) law enforcement **[03:17:36.260] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005396) from the BIR **[03:17:37.280] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005397) the BOC **[03:17:38.680] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005398) which have to **[03:17:40.340] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005399) be brought on board **[03:17:41.780] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005400) just so that they see **[03:17:43.460] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005401) the importance **[03:17:45.380] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005402) or the significance **[03:17:46.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005403) of that collaboration **[03:17:47.440] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005404) which will only be seen **[03:17:49.460] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005405) at the end **[03:17:50.140] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005406) kapag nakuha na natin **[03:17:51.300] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005407) yung resulta na gusto natin **[03:17:52.660] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005408) and yung sinabi ho **[03:17:53.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005409) ni Secretary that **[03:17:54.460] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005410) there are fewer cases **[03:17:56.260] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005411) which are actually being filed **[03:17:57.640] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005412) because it goes **[03:17:58.340] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005413) through **[03:17:58.760] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005414) a very **[03:17:59.900] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005415) tedious process **[03:18:01.120] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005416) of evaluation **[03:18:01.840] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005417) before it goes **[03:18:02.780] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005418) through PI **[03:18:03.280] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005419) and **[03:18:04.800] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005420) these cases **[03:18:05.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005421) while few **[03:18:06.480] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005422) these are the quality cases **[03:18:08.100] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005423) that we can be assured of **[03:18:09.980] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005424) that once we file it **[03:18:11.220] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005425) in court **[03:18:11.600] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005426) something na kaya po **[03:18:12.920] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005427) nating **[03:18:13.280] Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon** (asr-005428) maipanalo. **[03:18:15.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005429) Thank you. **[03:18:16.120] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005430) Thank you for that. **[03:18:17.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005431) And **[03:18:17.280] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005432) I said this **[03:18:18.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005433) judiciary budget hearing **[03:18:20.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005434) when we were going **[03:18:22.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005435) through the **[03:18:23.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005436) flood control **[03:18:24.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005437) scandal **[03:18:26.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005438) last year **[03:18:27.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005439) no? **[03:18:28.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005440) It's **[03:18:29.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005441) sabi ko **[03:18:29.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005442) it's not just the **[03:18:31.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005443) politicians **[03:18:32.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005444) who are on trial **[03:18:34.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005445) it's not just the **[03:18:36.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005446) public works **[03:18:38.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005447) employees **[03:18:39.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005448) and officials **[03:18:40.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005449) who are on trial **[03:18:41.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005450) ultimately **[03:18:42.440] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005451) the whole system **[03:18:43.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005452) of justice **[03:18:43.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005453) is on trial **[03:18:44.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005454) kasi sabi ko **[03:18:46.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005455) habang nasa **[03:18:47.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005456) dyaryo **[03:18:47.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005457) lahat galit sa **[03:18:49.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005458) politiko **[03:18:51.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005459) magdanakaw **[03:18:52.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005460) public works **[03:18:53.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005461) na kurap **[03:18:54.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005462) pero **[03:18:55.100] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005463) lahat yung **[03:18:56.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005464) mga investigation **[03:18:56.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005465) namin nun **[03:18:57.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005466) it's not just **[03:18:58.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005467) sa senate **[03:18:59.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005468) saan mapupunta **[03:19:00.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005469) sa **[03:19:02.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005470) sa **[03:19:04.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005471) justice system **[03:19:06.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005472) and **[03:19:08.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005473) unfortunately **[03:19:09.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005474) at that time **[03:19:10.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005475) in the middle of it all **[03:19:13.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005476) habang **[03:19:15.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005477) iniimbisagahan yung **[03:19:16.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005478) flood control **[03:19:17.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005479) luwabas yung **[03:19:19.420] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005480) sandigan bayan **[03:19:20.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005481) na **[03:19:21.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005482) convicted **[03:19:23.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005483) yung **[03:19:24.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005484) mga **[03:19:26.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005485) involved **[03:19:27.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005486) sa **[03:19:28.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005487) fertilizer scam **[03:19:30.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005488) na **[03:19:31.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005489) naganap **[03:19:32.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005490) nung **[03:19:33.380] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005491) 2004 **[03:19:34.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005492) at **[03:19:36.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005493) na-convict **[03:19:36.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005494) sa sandigan bayan **[03:19:37.800] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005495) 21 years later **[03:19:39.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005496) lahat tayo **[03:19:42.840] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005497) sa sistema **[03:19:43.580] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005498) ng katarungan **[03:19:44.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005499) bilang mga **[03:19:45.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005500) nagtatrabaho **[03:19:46.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005501) sino rito **[03:19:46.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005502) taas nyo yung kamay **[03:19:47.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005503) at sabihin **[03:19:48.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005504) okay yun ah **[03:19:49.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005505) tama lang yun **[03:19:50.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005506) after 21 years **[03:19:52.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005507) may conviction **[03:19:54.200] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005508) Tapos magtataka tayo bakit **[03:19:59.920] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005516) tuloy-tuloy **[03:20:01.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005517) ang pangungurakot **[03:20:02.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005518) sa gobyerno **[03:20:03.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005519) eh kumuha na lang tayo **[03:20:04.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005520) ng bato **[03:20:04.600] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005521) pupuk natin sa ulo natin **[03:20:06.360] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005522) kung hindi natin babaguhin **[03:20:08.220] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005523) dahil yun din **[03:20:09.400] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005524) ang magiging resulta **[03:20:10.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005525) we shouldn't be **[03:20:13.180] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005526) shocked **[03:20:14.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005527) unfortunately **[03:20:15.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005528) if we are just **[03:20:17.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005529) rationally **[03:20:18.480] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005530) thinking about **[03:20:19.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005531) what's going on **[03:20:20.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005532) it's the justice system **[03:20:21.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005533) that is also **[03:20:22.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005534) on trial here **[03:20:23.340] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005535) and I dread **[03:20:26.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005536) that what happens **[03:20:28.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005537) to previous cases **[03:20:30.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005538) of massive **[03:20:31.820] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005539) scandals **[03:20:33.020] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005540) corruption **[03:20:33.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005541) will happen **[03:20:36.160] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005542) to the current **[03:20:36.880] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005543) set of cases **[03:20:38.060] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005544) I dread that **[03:20:38.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005545) but **[03:20:41.240] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005546) you know **[03:20:42.720] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005547) moving forward **[03:20:43.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005548) we are not just **[03:20:46.620] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005549) prosecuting cases **[03:20:48.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005550) we are not just **[03:20:51.680] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005551) doing **[03:20:56.140] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005552) direct and cross examination **[03:20:58.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005553) we are actually all **[03:20:59.780] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005554) trying to redirect **[03:21:04.940] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005555) the course of the nation **[03:21:06.560] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005556) at this critical juncture **[03:21:09.040] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005557) in our country's history **[03:21:10.260] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005558) and so I hope **[03:21:12.960] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005559) sabi nga nila **[03:21:13.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005560) we are not just doing **[03:21:14.700] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005561) all these **[03:21:15.320] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005562) case build up **[03:21:17.860] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005563) diba **[03:21:21.500] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005564) We are working on a... redirecting of our country's course. **[03:21:39.460] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005580) and that's why **[03:21:40.520] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005581) we're on trial too **[03:21:41.640] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005582) even the senate **[03:21:44.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005583) even the house **[03:21:45.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005584) and the impeachment **[03:21:46.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005585) we're all on trial **[03:21:47.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005586) lahat tayo **[03:21:48.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005587) mahuhusgahan **[03:21:49.300] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005588) ng kasaysayan **[03:21:51.980] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005589) so ang tanong natin **[03:21:54.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005590) gusto ba nating **[03:21:56.000] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005591) mahusgahan **[03:21:57.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005597) na nagkulang **[03:21:59.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005598) o gusto ba nating mahusgahan **[03:22:01.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005599) na matapos tayong **[03:22:03.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005600) tinimbang **[03:22:05.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005601) ay sapat **[03:22:08.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005602) at **[03:22:09.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005603) maayos **[03:22:11.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005604) so **[03:22:13.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005605) we will sit down **[03:22:15.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005606) separately for the meeting **[03:22:16.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005607) we will also go through **[03:22:17.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005608) your request **[03:22:18.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005609) of **[03:22:19.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005610) restoration **[03:22:21.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005611) your wish list **[03:22:22.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005612) tama ba **[03:22:23.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005613) 1 billion 26 million 795 **[03:22:26.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005614) is that right? **[03:22:27.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005615) a **[03:22:29.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005616) centrum building **[03:22:30.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005617) personal compensation **[03:22:32.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005618) a **[03:22:33.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005619) buildings at **[03:22:34.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005620) 568 million **[03:22:35.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005621) confidential fund **[03:22:36.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005622) restoration **[03:22:37.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005623) general administration **[03:22:39.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005624) a **[03:22:41.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005625) and so forth **[03:22:42.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005626) and so on **[03:22:43.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005627) 229 **[03:22:44.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005628) million for the **[03:22:45.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005629) Bucor **[03:22:46.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005630) 276 million **[03:22:47.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005631) for the BI **[03:22:48.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005632) a **[03:22:49.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005633) hazard pay **[03:22:50.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005634) NBI **[03:22:51.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005635) 299 million **[03:22:52.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005636) plus plus **[03:22:53.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005637) and the **[03:22:54.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005638) confidential funds **[03:22:55.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005639) additional **[03:22:56.900] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005640) Okay, we'll go through that and at least we will endeavor to endorse this and get the restoration so we can give you the support you need to do your job. **[03:23:12.760] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005641) Okay, there being no further questions subject to the submission of the documents and the information requested in our separate meeting, **[03:23:24.540] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005642) the budget of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies is deemed submitted for the consideration of plenary. **[03:23:36.740] Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan** (asr-005643) Thank you, Secretary Vida and the DOJ family. Maraming salamat sa oras at panahon. The hearing of the subcommittee G is hereby suspended.