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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ladies and gentlemen, the hearing of the Committee on Finance, Subcommittee G, is hereby called to order. Our hearing for today is the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies. We would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Ping Lacson.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We now call on our committee secretary, Attorney Lina, to acknowledge and place on record our resource persons. Attorney Lina, you have the floor.

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Committee Secretary: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Senator Lacson, sir. From the DOJ family, we have the following in attendance: Secretary Frederick A. Vida; Undersecretary Raul T. Vasquez.

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez; Undersecretary Deo L. Marco; Undersecretary Nicolas Felix L. Ty; Undersecretary Gard M. Candelaria; Prosecutor General Richard Anthony D. Fadullon; Chief State Counsel Dennis Arvin L. Chan; from the Bureau of Immigration, Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado.

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Committee Secretary: From the Land Registration Authority, we have Gerardo P. Sirios, Administrator.

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Committee Secretary: From the National Bureau of Investigation, Melvin A. Matiwag, the Director.

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Committee Secretary: From the Office of the Government Corporate Council, Solomon M. Hermosura.

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Committee Secretary: From the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution, we have Jose Maria R. Palaganas, Executive Director.

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Committee Secretary: From the Parole and Probation Authority, Wilson R. Suba, Administrator.

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Committee Secretary: From the Presidential Commission on Good Government, Justice Melchor Quirino C. Sadang, the Chairperson.

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Committee Secretary: From the Bureau of Corrections, General Gregorio P. Catapang, Jr., Director General.

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Committee Secretary: From the Department of Budget and Management, Representatives to the DOJ, Mr. Carlos M. Castro, Director.

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Committee Secretary: From the COA to the DOJ, Attorney.

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Committee Secretary: Gumer Guime, Cassandra Conde, and Imelda Baguiza.

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Committee Secretary: That's all for now, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Attorney Lina. We will now proceed with our opening statement.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Actually, 25 years ago, it's full circle for this representation because I first defended the DOJ budget 25 years ago as Chairman then of the Committee on Justice here in the Senate.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And so I'm back as Senate Committee on Justice Chairperson, and 25 years later, I will be defending your budget.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 25 years ago, kami po ni Senator Ping Lacson ay sabay na halal bilang senador. In fact, I call him my mista in the Senate, batch 2001.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And he's here with us also today.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ngayong araw, gusto natin sukatin ang...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Proposed 2027 Budget ng DOJ at ng attached agencies nito.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sukatin natin ang 43.3 billion pesos sa tanong ng karaniwang Pilipino.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya ba nitong ibigay ang mabilis, abot kaya, makatao, at pantay na hustisya?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya bang managot ang dapat managot?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi nga, 43.3 billion pesos ang gagasusin natin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Habang base sa COA...

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos, 1.3 trillion naman ang pondo ng gobernong ninanakaw taon-taon.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya, napakahalaga ng sistema ng katarungan sa ating bansa para matugunan ang nais ng ating mga kababayan.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: May dagdag na pondo para sa National Prosecution Service Bureau of Corrections.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Public Attorney's Office.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Makakatulong ang mga pondong ito.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Para marinig ang mga biktima, mabigyan ng abogado ang mga mahihirap, at matiyak na makatao at ang pagtrato sa mga nakakulong.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero bumaba naman ng 23% ang budget ng NBI.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kabilang ang halos 90% na bawas sa capital outlay.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay lang ba yun?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Habang lumalala at nagiging mas komplikado ang cybercrime, mga scams, human trafficking,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at malalaking financial crimes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang batas, ang software ng bansa.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang justice system naman, ang operating system for ang hardware.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kung kulang sa mga investigador, prosecutor, mga field office, at luma na ang forensic tools at case tracking systems,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kahit gaano kaganda ang software.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kung ang operating system ay 486.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or something, yung mga panahon namin,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh, mapuprotektahan ba ang mga maliliit na ating mga kababayan?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Halimbawa, tulad ng mga magsasaka sa agriculture smuggling,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o ang ating mga anak laban sa online sexual abuse and exploitation.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mabigat ang pasan ng ating DOJ.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa 45 agriculture economic sabotage complaints, halimbawa, na na-refer sa DOJ hanggang May of this year,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 35!

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang binalik para sa case build-up, 35 of 45 returned for additional case build-up.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nilalamo ng agriculture smuggling halimbawa ang kabuhayan ng mga magsasaka,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga ngingisda, at patuloy na mataas ang presyo ng pagkain at patuloy ang gutom.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero nasaan ang mga forfeiture ng mga nagwawasak ng ating agriculture economy?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nasaan ang mga conviction?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa pang-aabuso sa mga bata, inaasahang kumilos agad ang Estado.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero bumaba sa halos 35.7 million pesos

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang proposed allocation para sa National Coordination Center against OSAEC and CISAEM.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 61% lower kaysa sa 2026 enacted level.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Samantala, uulitin natin 90% ang bawas sa capital outlay ng NBI

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at 898 sa mga authorized positions ito na nanatiling bakante.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang 2027 DOJ budget dapat maging kongkretong commitment na punan ang mga bakanting posisyon,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bigyan ng sapat na kagamitan ang mga investigador, pagdugtong-dugtongin ang mga ahensya.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bumuoon ng mga matibay na kasong ilalatag sa korte, protektahan ng mga biktima,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: panagutin ang mga

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: salarin.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary Vida and the rest of the team DOJ,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: today we invite you to present your strategic plans and your key performance targets.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Iniimbitahan namin kayong tulungan-punan ang hinihingi ng ordinaryong Pilipino sa DOJ,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: isang sistema ng katarungan na gumagana, agad, mahusay at patas.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Lalo na at pagkain, kabuhayan, kaligtasan at kinabukasan

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ng mga anak natin ang nakataya. We look forward to a productive and candid discussion. Paano ma-o-optimize itong proposed allocation? Paano pa maidadagdag at saan natin kukunin ang idadagdag para magampanan ang mga mandato ng may pinakamataas na antas ng pananagutan, accountability, at transparency?

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We now ask Senator Lacson for his opening statement. You have the floor, sir.

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: None from this representation, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: With that, we can now proceed. Secretary Vida, you have the floor for your opening statement and your presentation. Go ahead, sir.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Magandang umaga po at maraming salamat po sa pagkakataon. Ako po ang inyong Secretary of Justice, Frederick A. Vida.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasama ko po ang iba't-ibang opisyalis at lingkodbayan mula sa pamilya ng Department of Justice.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At para po sa batid na kaalaman ng lahat, ang sampu po na attached agencies ng Department of Justice ay unang-una,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang Office of the Solicitor General, ang ating pong Bureau of Corrections, ang Bureau of Immigration, ang Land Registration Authority,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang National Bureau of Investigations.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang Office of the Government Corporate Council, ang Parole and Probation Administration, ang ating pong PCGG, Presidential Commission on Good Government,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and ang ating pong Public Attorney's Office, at syempre po kasama rin po natin ng Office of the Alternative Dispute Resolutions.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Salamat po, ginagalang at minamahal na aming Senador, Senator Francis Pangilinan, and Senator Ping Lacson.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Salamat po sa pagkakataon para amin pong maihain at maidulog ang proposed budget ng DOJ for 2027.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po, para pong sa bilang ay malaki, 46 billion, ito po ay 0.64% lamang ng kabuang budget para sa susunod na taon ng national government.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At kasama ko po ang iba't-ibang undersecretary.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Assistant Secretary, kami po ay handa na tugunan lahat ng inyong katanungan at paglilinaw.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At maraming salamat po sa pagkakataon.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa pagpapatuloy po ng aming pong paghain, ng aming proposed budget,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nandito po ang aming kasama, si Undersecretary Anika Gran-Ong, para ho ipagpatuloy ang aming presentasyon.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Maraming salamat po.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Yusek, you have the floor.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Annika ba yan? Annika?

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Yes, sir.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Good morning.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kilala yung Annika dito sa impeachment trial, kaya very familiar kami sa Annika.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Annika, please don't ring the bell.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have more than two minutes.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Thank you very much, Honorable Chairperson.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department's overarching framework is defined by its core mandate to uphold the rule of law and serve the government's principal law agency.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In pursuit of its vision to foster a just and peaceful society rooted in transparency, accountability, fairness, and truth,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Department executes its mission by delivering an effective, efficient, and equitable administration of justice nationwide.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department administers the criminal justice system through the investigation of crimes, the prosecution of offenders, and the administration of the correctional system.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Beyond criminal justice, the Department also maintains oversight over immigration, citizenship, and land titling system.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Above all,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department guarantees social justice by extending free legal assistance to our most vulnerable and indigent citizens.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In the next few slides, we will highlight some of the key operational accomplishments of the Department.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department of Justice, through the National Prosecution Service, consistently demonstrated enhanced prosecutorial output and case management efficiency over the past five years.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: More significantly in 2025,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: NPS

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: handled a heavy total caseload of 428,779 cases.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: By year-end,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 395,780 of these were disposed and resolved,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: resulting in 99.12% of cases resolved within the prescribed 120 days,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: improving upon the 99.08% accomplishment recorded in 2024.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The resolved cases include all those complaints,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: under preliminary investigation, inquest, and motion for reconsideration.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Turning to court dispositions, the Department has consistently sustained high prosecution success rates over the past five years.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: As shown in this slide, the Department poses upward trajectory in terms of PSR.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The PSR rose to 90.84% in 2025 from 90.14% in 2024.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This performance reflects concrete results of the Department's institutional reforms,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: especially in strengthening pre-trial case buildup, tightening evidence standards, and adopting a proactive role in criminal investigation.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Moving on to our overall agency performance,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the succeeding slides show our agency physical performance for calendar year 2025 and for the first semester of calendar year 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Under our prosecution sub-program, we maintained high operational output.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The National Prosecution Service attained a PSR of 90.84% in 2025,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is further improved to 91.38% in the first semester of 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Further, case disposition rate remained high at 99.12% in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: As of the first semester, case disposition rate has reached 97.96%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The PSR has reached 94.94%, which is expected to increase further by year end.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For our Witness Protection sub-program, we achieved a 100% success rate across all three key indicators in the first semester of 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Further, through our Special Enforcement and Protection Units,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: we have attained 95.18% successful prosecution on monitored cases in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: As of first semester of this year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: responsible units have already attained

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 94.23%,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is anticipated to trend

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: upward by year-end. The special

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: enforcement cluster reported an

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: improved investigation completion rate

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of 95.76%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: year, a slight increase from

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 95.34% in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2025. Under our

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: corrections sub-program, the agency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: has issued 100% of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2025 and in the first half of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2026. Similarly,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: all applications and requests

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for victim compensation claims

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of this year were acted upon

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: during the period. The legal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: services program recorded an improved

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of legal service

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in the first sem of 2026,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: an increase from 99.05%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Relative to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: our law enforcement services,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the National Bureau of Investigation

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: conducted and acted upon

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 32,419

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in the first sem of 2026,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: tracking steadily against

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the full year total of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 56,212 in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For clearance applications,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the NBI was able to process

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 99.28% of requests

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: within the prescribed

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: time of 10 minutes in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This year, as of the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: first semester, the Bureau has already

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reached an efficiency rate of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 98.79%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and may surpass previous year's

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: On the other hand, the Bureau of Immigration

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: cleared 99.99%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of foreign arrival and departures

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2025, which

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is sustained as of the first sem of this year.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the first half of this year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the BI also achieved

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 96.02% of intelligence

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: case disposition within 60 days,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: this has already exceeded

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: its annual target of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 95.91% by

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 0.51%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The BI commits to sustain this performance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by year-end. In terms of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: PBLs managed and safe-kept

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by the Bureau of Corrections stood

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: at 52,708

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in the first sem of this year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: down from 53,972

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This indicates steady

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: progress in prison congestion,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in reformation or rehabilitation

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: programs rose to 98.60%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in the first sem of this

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: year from 97.97%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Moreover, client compliance with

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: probation and parole conditions increased

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to 99.46%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in the first half this year, compared

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to 98.96%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Additionally, participation of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: probationers and parolees in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the PPA reached

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 98.69%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2025 and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 98.75% in the first

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The performance metrics

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: on this slide shows operational efficiency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and high client satisfaction

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in the provision of legal services.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Public Attorney's

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Office sustained high disposition

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: rates of cases with favorable

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: judgments both in 2025

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: At the same time, PAO was able to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: achieve high success rates

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: on alternative dispute resolution

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for 2025 at

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 91.43%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Office of the Solicitor

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: General acted on 98.3%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the cases it handled

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2025, which

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: increased to 98.6%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: this year. Across the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: assessment periods, the agency was able

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to act on 100%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of petitions for naturalization.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The high performance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: results led to excellent satisfaction

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: ratings from their client agencies.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Similarly,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: from 2025 up to 2026,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Office of the Government Corporate

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Council was able to file 100%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of its pleadings within

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the prescribed period. Meanwhile,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: as of the first sem this year, 88%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of contracts were reviewed and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: legal opinions were rendered by the OGCC

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: within the prescribed period,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: a significant increase of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 8% from its accomplishment rate

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: last year. In the case

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the Land Registration Authority,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the agency has surpassed

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: its accomplishments in 2025

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: with 93.94%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: titles issued and 95.67%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of these annotated

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: within 20 days from receipt of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: complete documents. Meanwhile,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Presidential Commission

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: on Good Government, or PCGG,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reported around

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 1.57 billion of recovered

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: amount and proceeds

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: from the administration of fully taken

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: over sequestered assets in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2025. The Commission

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is expected to remit the same amount

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to the Treasury by the end of this year.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Lastly, the Office of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Alternative Dispute Resolution

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: continuously advances the use

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of ADR mechanisms,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: having trained 3,392

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: practitioners and implementers

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: last year. It has

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: also acted upon all applications

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for accreditation and approval of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: ADR training programs for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2025 and 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Overall,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The whole department remains steadfast

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and optimistic in sustaining,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: if not surpassing, its high-performance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: results.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The total proposed budget of the DOJ,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: including its attached

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: constituent agencies for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2027, amounts to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 46.435 billion

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: as compared to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2026

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: approved budget of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 45.525 billion.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: As you may note, the DOJ

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budget for 2027

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is retained at 0.64%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: or less than 1%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the published total NEP budget

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of 7.2 trillion.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Overall, for the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2027 NEP-based

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budget, 68.32%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is for personal services,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: including salaries and other

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: compensation of employees.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Only 24.42%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is programmed for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: maintenance and other operating expenses,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: while

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 7.26%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: accounts for the capital outlay

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of select agencies of the department.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The slight increase in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: overall NEP budget of the DOJ

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is attributed mainly to the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: increased funding requirement

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for personal salaries and other

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: compensation. For FY

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2027, the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: department-wide budget proposal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: amounts to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 121.63

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion, but the total

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budget recommended in the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2027

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: National Expenditure Program

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is only 46.435

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion, or only

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 38.18% of the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: submitted proposed budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This slide shows our

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: comparative budget for 2026

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and 2027 by

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: allotment class in millions of pesos.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Details of these figures

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: will be shown later.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With the permission of the honorable members

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the committee, please allow me to present

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the DOJ OSEC budget in the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: next several slides.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you proceed, we would like

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to acknowledge the presence of

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our chairperson of the Committee on Finance,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator JV

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ejercito. Thank you, Senator

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: JV. Please proceed. Go ahead.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Thank you.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Next slide.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For 2027,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Office of the Secretary

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is provided with a total budget

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of 13.930

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion, wherein

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 70.67% is for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: PS, 12.46%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for MOOE, and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 16.86% for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: capital outlay. For our

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: law enforcement program, the budget

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for the National Prosecution Service

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: increased by 7.64%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: On the contrary,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: with substantial reduction in the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budgets of anti-trafficking in persons,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: anti-cybercrime, and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: OSA-XISAEP, the budget for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: special enforcement and protection program

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is reduced by almost half in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2027 at

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 204 million compared to the current

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: appropriations of 402 million.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For 2027,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the target disposition rate of criminal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: complaints handled by the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: NPS is set at 97%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department, through the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Witness Protection Program, aims

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to act on all applications for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: witness coverage, and that

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 95.34%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of investigations undertaken by

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: special enforcement units

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: must be completed.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The total recommended appropriations

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for our corrections program,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2027, is reduced

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by 21.05%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Compared to our current

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: year's approved funding, the recommended

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budget for our pardons and parole services

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is slightly reduced

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by 2.63% at

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 37 million. On the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: other hand, the recommended budget

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for Victims' Compensation Service is

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: cut by more than half for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 19 million in 2026

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to 8 million in 2027.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With significantly reduced

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budgets for next year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Board of Pardons and Parole will

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: ensure that 99.72%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the applications for parole and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: executive clemency are acted upon

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and that 100% of board

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: resolutions on the grant of parole

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and executive clemency are

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: issued within the prescribed period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For 2027,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the legal staff shall

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: ensure that 97.01%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of requests for legal services

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: are acted upon within the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: working budget of 205 million,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is 4.59%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: higher than the 2026

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budget. For our

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: attached and constituent agencies,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: we start with the Bureau of Corrections.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Their 2027 recommended

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budget amounts to 11.93

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion, which is 9.66%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: higher than the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 10.88 billion appropriations in the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: current year. On average,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the BUCOR is committed to maintain and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: safeguard around 56,454

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: PDLs daily

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and to ensure that

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 98.13% of PDLs

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: participate in their rehabilitation

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: programs. For the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Bureau of Immigration, their 2027

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: recommended budget is

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2.98 billion, which is

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 35.8%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: lower than the 2026

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budget. Given

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: this budget for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2027, the BI is set to clear

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the arrival or departure of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 99.99% foreign passengers.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Further, the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Bureau needs to dispose within 60 days

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 95.91%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of intelligence cases.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the Land Registration Authority,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the 2027 recommended

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: budget amounts to 3.28

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is 13.7% higher than the 2.88 billion budget in 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Given this budget, the LRA will be able to provide land registration services,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: particularly the agency shall ensure that at least 93.62% of titles will be issued

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and 95.64% of these are annotated within 20 days after the submission of completed documents.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the National Bureau of Investigation, their 2027 recommended budget is 22.34% lower at 3.03 billion from 3.9 billion in 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the said 2027 budget, the NBI should be able to process more than 6.6 million clearances

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of which at least 98% should be issued within 10 minutes from receipt of request.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The NBI committed to act upon and conduct at least 50,000 investigations next year.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the Office of the Government Corporate Council, the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 310 million

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is 2.21% lower than the 316 million budget in 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the next year, the OGCC shall ensure that 100% of all court pleadings will be filed within the prescribed period

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and that 82% of all contracts will be reviewed and legal opinions will be rendered within the prescribed period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the Office of the Solicitor General, the 2027 recommended budget is increased to 2.14 billion from 1.9 billion in 2026

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: with a positive variance of 13.15% in their budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The OSG aims to act upon at least 98% of referred cases in 2027

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: out of which 99% are acted upon within 30 days.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For resolution of petitions for naturalization, the agency intends to resolve 100% by the end of the year.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the PPA, the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 1.25 billion

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is about 3.61% lower than the 1.3 billion approved budget in 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With their 2027 NEP-based budget, the PPA will ensure 98.96% of their clients

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: will be compliant with the terms of the PPA.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the PCGG, the recommended budget under the 2027 NEP amounts to 339 million

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is 9.35% higher than their current year appropriations of 310 million.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For 2027, the PCGG targets at least 846 million of surrendered or sequestered

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: assets to be submitted to the Bureau of Treasury.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the Public Attorney's Office, their 2027 recommended budget amounts to 7.101 billion

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is 6.10% higher than their 6.693 billion budget for 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With this recommended budget, the PAO will be able to achieve 83.05% favorable judgments

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for its disposed cases including appeals in 2027.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Said office will also ensure that all requests for non-judicial,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: services in 2027 will be acted upon within two hours.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Lastly, for the Office of the Alternative Dispute Resolution,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 139 million

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is 16.27% lower than their current year's appropriation.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Despite the reduced funding, the OADR will ensure that 1,880 ADR practitioners

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and implementers will be trained and 100% of applications for accreditation

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: will be acted upon in 2027.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This concludes our presentation of the 2027 Department-wide Budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: At this point, we are ready to address any questions, comments,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: or requests for clarifications from the members of this committee.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Yusek Ong.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just housekeeping, each senator will be given for the first round 10 minutes

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and then we can proceed from there.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And by order of arrival,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator,

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ping Lakson has the floor.

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Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Senator Ping, you have 10 minutes.

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: Before I proceed to my particular point of interest

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: in today's budget hearing or briefing,

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: let me just seek clarification on the disposition of cases,

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung disposition rate.

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: Apparently, there's a mathematical error.

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi when we computed,

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: ang data nyo rito is 428,779 cases,

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Senator Panfilo Lacson: this was in 2025.

528
00:34:58,140 --> 00:35:03,020
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang na-dispose or resolved

529
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: And you computed it at 99.12%.

530
00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:11,940
Senator Panfilo Lacson: When we computed, nasa 92.3% lang.

531
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:14,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Baka naman mali yung aming computation.

532
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:16,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pakiclarify lang nga.

533
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,120
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Malaki yung discrepancy kasi between 99.12 and 92.3,

534
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,420
Senator Panfilo Lacson: medyo malaki po.

535
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:25,120
Senator Panfilo Lacson: At kung kailangan,

536
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:26,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: rectify, rectify lang natin.

537
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:27,980
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kung ako naman ang mali,

538
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: paki-explain lang.

539
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:42,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Maraming salamat, Sen.

540
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 428,000, yun yung universe natin.

541
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 395,780 resolved as of December 31.

542
00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:53,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero dagdag pa ho doon,

543
00:35:53,940 --> 00:35:55,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: meron nung pending,

544
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may cases pa na,

545
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:57,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of course, the balance.

546
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:00,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero yung 32,000,

547
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung 29,000 na pending out of the 32,000,

548
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is still within the 120 days.

549
00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:12,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We have 120 days to resolve yung preliminary investigation.

550
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:15,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So we do not consider that as late.

551
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi halimbawa,

552
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:18,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nag-file lang ng December 1,

553
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:20,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: compute 30, 30,

554
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so March 31 pa yun.

555
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So out of the 32,000,

556
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung 29,000 is still within the period.

557
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:35,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po, we computed it as 99.12% pa.

558
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:36,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ni-less po namin.

559
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:37,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Maraming salamat sa clarification

560
00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:39,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: kasi hindi naman napasama sa presentation.

561
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:43,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will make the proper notation

562
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:45,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that it can be easily understood.

563
00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:49,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kala ko, hindi marunong mag-math si Dong Padulyon eh.

564
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya nag-law school na lang.

565
00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:53,780
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ...

566
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang second question,

567
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: doon sa same presentation,

568
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 90.84%,

569
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,980
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ito yung prosecution success rate.

570
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Define ito ng convictions versus acquittals.

571
00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:08,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pero yung performance chain,

572
00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:11,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: gusto na namin makita yung further details.

573
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:13,920
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung share of all complaints received,

574
00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:16,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung nakarating sa filing,

575
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,280
Senator Panfilo Lacson: trial,

576
00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:18,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: final conviction.

577
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, meron ba kayo dyang data?

578
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kung wala naman,

579
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: pwede namang isubmit later.

580
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pero kung meron kayong,

581
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: complete performance,

582
00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:28,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung data sa performance chain,

583
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:30,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung

584
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,240
Senator Panfilo Lacson: as to the complaints received,

585
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,420
Senator Panfilo Lacson: dismissed, filed, withdrawn,

586
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,120
Senator Panfilo Lacson: plea bargain,

587
00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:36,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: convicted, acquitted,

588
00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:37,180
Senator Panfilo Lacson: archived,

589
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:37,940
Senator Panfilo Lacson: appealed,

590
00:37:38,140 --> 00:37:39,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: and finally resolved.

591
00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:40,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kung meron lang,

592
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: kung wala naman,

593
00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:42,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: we're willing to wait.

594
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:43,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Mr. Senator.

595
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will submit the corresponding

596
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: disaggregated para mas,

597
00:37:47,740 --> 00:37:49,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the proper filters.

598
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:50,380
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you.

599
00:37:50,580 --> 00:37:52,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Now, I'll proceed to the,

600
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,840
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung automatic appropriations.

601
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:54,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Particularly,

602
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:56,520
Senator Panfilo Lacson: doon sa special accounts.

603
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,280
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Gusto ko lang malaman yung

604
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,240
Senator Panfilo Lacson: how much

605
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:04,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: income was generated

606
00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:08,080
Senator Panfilo Lacson: against those earmarked

607
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,940
Senator Panfilo Lacson: to the different agencies

608
00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:13,500
Senator Panfilo Lacson: under automatic appropriations

609
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:14,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: or under special accounts.

610
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:18,700
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi may mga income generating

611
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:20,020
Senator Panfilo Lacson: agencies kayo, di ba?

612
00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:20,440
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Like,

613
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:22,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ang malaki rito,

614
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: LRA,

615
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:24,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Bureau of Immigration.

616
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:25,080
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ito yung mga trust receipts.

617
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,280
Senator Panfilo Lacson: And, naturally,

618
00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:28,700
Senator Panfilo Lacson: lahat ito,

619
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,840
Senator Panfilo Lacson: binabalik natin sa treasury,

620
00:38:31,980 --> 00:38:32,100
Senator Panfilo Lacson: di ba?

621
00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:32,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sinasabit.

622
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:33,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: And then,

623
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:35,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: we are required to just request.

624
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,440
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang gusto ko lang malaman,

625
00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:38,620
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung ratio,

626
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: how much was earned

627
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:42,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: by the different agencies

628
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: paki-breakdown

629
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:44,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: as against those

630
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,580
Senator Panfilo Lacson: appropriated under special accounts.

631
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:50,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Dito namin kayo pwedeng tulungan.

632
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,820
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kaya, I'm asking for details.

633
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: By the way,

634
00:38:58,540 --> 00:38:59,940
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ano-ano mga agencies pa yung merong

635
00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:01,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: income generation?

636
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Income generating activities?

637
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: NBI.

638
00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:07,780
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Sir,

639
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:09,880
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the agencies that

640
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: have special accounts are

641
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,600
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: NBI,

642
00:39:12,740 --> 00:39:13,140
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: BI,

643
00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:14,640
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: LRA,

644
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,940
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: DOJ, sir.

645
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:20,220
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The OSEC proper.

646
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: PCGG ba meron?

647
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,200
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: PCGG.

648
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:28,060
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: PCGG as well.

649
00:39:28,060 --> 00:39:30,100
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Saan nasa source yung

650
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,100
Senator Panfilo Lacson: sa DOJ proper?

651
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Income generation?

652
00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:39,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ah, okay.

653
00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:44,960
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The sources of income

654
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,600
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: from the office of the secretary

655
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,380
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: comes from legal fees,

656
00:39:48,740 --> 00:39:49,860
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: other service income,

657
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,220
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and miscellaneous income.

658
00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:54,320
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung universe muna.

659
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,220
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Magkano yung

660
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:56,220
Senator Panfilo Lacson: total na

661
00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:58,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: na generate na income

662
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,620
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ng buong department?

663
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,020
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Including all agencies

664
00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:05,440
Senator Panfilo Lacson: that generate income.

665
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:19,220
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For 2025,

666
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,280
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for the whole agency,

667
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,020
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the DOJ family,

668
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:24,920
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: it's 18 billion,

669
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,960
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and 715,924,000.

670
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 715,924,000.

671
00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:36,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang ibinalik sa inyo,

672
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: magkano?

673
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:38,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Buong agency again?

674
00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:38,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Magkano daw,

675
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,420
Senator Panfilo Lacson: binalik?

676
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,520
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Lahat ito,

677
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,460
Senator Panfilo Lacson: under special accounts,

678
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:55,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ano,

679
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:56,620
Senator Panfilo Lacson: pinasok?

680
00:40:57,900 --> 00:40:59,540
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Under the proposed,

681
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:00,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: under the NEP,

682
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: under automatic appropriations.

683
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:04,220
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Sir,

684
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,840
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Asec

685
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,120
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: or Asec [unclear]

686
00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:08,700
DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: can answer?

687
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,740
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Sir, no,

688
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,240
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: may certain agency lang po

689
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,640
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: na merong special account

690
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,980
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: in the general fund,

691
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,540
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: like LRA.

692
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,840
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: I think also,

693
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:22,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Total muna.

694
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Ay, sir.

695
00:41:23,660 --> 00:41:25,320
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi meron kayong

696
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ibinigay sa treasurer

697
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,540
Senator Panfilo Lacson: na 18 billion plus.

698
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,280
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Gusto ko malaman,

699
00:41:30,460 --> 00:41:31,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: magkano yung naibalik sa inyo.

700
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,560
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Sir, sandali ah.

701
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: I just would like to find out

702
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,240
Senator Panfilo Lacson: how much

703
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:41,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: you are being shortchanged.

704
00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:42,800
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Ah, yes, sir.

705
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:46,280
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Sir, I do not have the

706
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,140
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: entire ano,

707
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,060
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: but yung per agency,

708
00:41:50,060 --> 00:41:51,460
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: meron po yung sa

709
00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:52,740
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: special account,

710
00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:53,640
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: like for the last,

711
00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:54,500
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: for the Land Registration

712
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:57,640
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: ang special account nila

713
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,380
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: for,

714
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,200
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: actually,

715
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,940
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: ang 2026 yung data ko po dito,

716
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,260
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: sa MOOE is 1.2 billion,

717
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:07,880
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: and for capital outlay

718
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: is around 267 million.

719
00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:18,280
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: For NBI naman po,

720
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,160
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: for MOOE is 1.3 billion,

721
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,640
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: and capital outlay,

722
00:42:23,660 --> 00:42:25,700
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: is 1.1 billion.

723
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:27,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Teka, para clear lang na

724
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,120
Senator Panfilo Lacson: we're on the same page,

725
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:29,000
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ito yung

726
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: na-receive in 20...

727
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:32,980
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: 26 po,

728
00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:34,940
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: na special account in the general.

729
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,580
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: So, magkano yung

730
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:37,820
Senator Panfilo Lacson: naibigay ng LRA

731
00:42:37,820 --> 00:42:40,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: sa treasury?

732
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,240
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Wait, sir.

733
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:48,860
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: In 2026,

734
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,960
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: ang total na provide ng LRA...

735
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: No, 2026.

736
00:42:53,660 --> 00:42:54,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: No, 2025.

737
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:55,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Hindi pa tapos yung 2026 eh.

738
00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:56,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Ah, kasi.

739
00:42:56,660 --> 00:43:00,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: 2025 provided by LRA...

740
00:43:00,660 --> 00:43:02,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Teka, ito, total.

741
00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:04,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Special account in the general fund

742
00:43:04,660 --> 00:43:08,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: is 2.2 billion.

743
00:43:08,660 --> 00:43:13,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 2.2 billion ang nai-remit

744
00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:14,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: sa treasury ng LRA.

745
00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:15,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Yes, sir, ng LRA.

746
00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:16,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: 2.2.

747
00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:18,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: 2 billion.

748
00:43:18,660 --> 00:43:20,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ano pa yung iba?

749
00:43:20,660 --> 00:43:22,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sa BI?

750
00:43:22,660 --> 00:43:23,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May...

751
00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:25,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, can we...

752
00:43:25,660 --> 00:43:27,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Can we confirm from the agency themselves?

753
00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:29,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that we have the correct data?

754
00:43:29,660 --> 00:43:31,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Admin?

755
00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:32,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Good morning, Mr. Chair,

756
00:43:32,660 --> 00:43:34,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: with the permission of the Secretary.

757
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:39,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: The LRA contributed to the national treasury in 2025,

758
00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:41,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: 11 billion,

759
00:43:41,660 --> 00:43:43,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: 444 million...

760
00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:45,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Hindi 2.2, 11 billion.

761
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:47,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Hindi, for...

762
00:43:47,660 --> 00:43:49,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Special account lang, sir, yung tinatanong.

763
00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:50,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: No, no, no.

764
00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:51,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung nai-remit ang tinatanong po.

765
00:43:51,660 --> 00:43:52,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang tinatanong po,

766
00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:53,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: sabi ko nga kanina,

767
00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:54,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: para same page tayo,

768
00:43:54,660 --> 00:43:55,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung nai-remit muna.

769
00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:56,660
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Ah, okay, sir.

770
00:43:56,660 --> 00:43:57,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So that's 11 billion.

771
00:43:57,660 --> 00:43:58,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Apo.

772
00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:08,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sige, Jerry, please continue.

773
00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:09,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Mr. Chair,

774
00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:10,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: o Senator,

775
00:44:10,660 --> 00:44:11,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ah,

776
00:44:11,660 --> 00:44:12,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: we...

777
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:14,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: we were given,

778
00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:15,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ah,

779
00:44:15,660 --> 00:44:18,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: 15% of our...

780
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:19,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Teka muna,

781
00:44:19,660 --> 00:44:20,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung munang nai-remit ninyo.

782
00:44:20,660 --> 00:44:21,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Again,

783
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:22,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Mr. Senator,

784
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:24,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: we remitted 11 billion 400...

785
00:44:24,660 --> 00:44:26,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: around 400 million

786
00:44:26,660 --> 00:44:28,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: to the national treasury.

787
00:44:28,660 --> 00:44:29,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Out of that,

788
00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:31,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: we have a special account,

789
00:44:31,660 --> 00:44:32,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: which...

790
00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:34,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: of which 20% is supposed to be retained

791
00:44:34,660 --> 00:44:36,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: by the agency.

792
00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:37,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: We were...

793
00:44:37,660 --> 00:44:38,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: This is covered by law?

794
00:44:38,660 --> 00:44:39,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yes, sir.

795
00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:40,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung earmark ito ah, 20%?

796
00:44:40,660 --> 00:44:41,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yes, sir.

797
00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:42,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Under PD 1529.

798
00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:43,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you.

799
00:44:43,660 --> 00:44:44,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And then,

800
00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:45,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: we were given

801
00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:47,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: in the NEP at that...

802
00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:48,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: at that time,

803
00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:49,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: 15% of our...

804
00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:51,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: 15% of our earnings,

805
00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:53,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor.

806
00:44:53,660 --> 00:44:55,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, short ng 5%?

807
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:57,660
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor.

808
00:44:57,660 --> 00:44:59,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, violation of law?

809
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,240
Senator Panfilo Lacson: kaya nga we want to find out

810
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:05,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: so we can you know make some adjustments

811
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: kasi ang laki ng cut ng

812
00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:08,000
Senator Panfilo Lacson: department

813
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,420
Senator Panfilo Lacson: so at least sa aspect

814
00:45:11,420 --> 00:45:13,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: na ito we want to

815
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,360
Senator Panfilo Lacson: you know to support the department

816
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: that's the reason why I'm

817
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: trying to find out the details

818
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:21,080
Senator Panfilo Lacson: kasi kung under the law

819
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: under the PD

820
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: entitled kayo sa 20%

821
00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:27,540
Senator Panfilo Lacson: tapos bibigyan lang kayo sa NEP ng 15%

822
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:28,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: probably

823
00:45:28,260 --> 00:45:31,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: we can correct

824
00:45:31,060 --> 00:45:32,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: or

825
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: i-remedyan natin yung error

826
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:37,020
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung violation of law by giving back

827
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:38,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: to the department

828
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: LRA

829
00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:43,380
Senator Panfilo Lacson: the missing 5%

830
00:45:43,380 --> 00:45:46,980
Senator Panfilo Lacson: kaya nga kaya ako nagtatanong

831
00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:49,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: so okay settled

832
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Bureau of Immigration

833
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: With the permission of Senator Ping Lakson

834
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we just like to place on record and acknowledge

835
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the presence of our former

836
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senate President, Senate President

837
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Tito Soto

838
00:46:00,220 --> 00:46:01,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you for joining us

839
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead Senator Ping

840
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,380
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you, BI

841
00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:07,360
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Another Kababayan

842
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good morning honorable senators

843
00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:11,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good morning Senator Lakson

844
00:46:11,180 --> 00:46:13,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Senator Pangilinan, Senator Ersito

845
00:46:13,460 --> 00:46:14,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and Senator Soto

846
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,660
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sir ang nakolekta po ng

847
00:46:17,660 --> 00:46:18,820
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Bureau of Immigration

848
00:46:18,820 --> 00:46:20,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for

849
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:23,860
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 2025 which was remitted to the

850
00:46:23,860 --> 00:46:26,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: National Treasury was in the amount

851
00:46:26,020 --> 00:46:28,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of 4 billion,

852
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:34,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 669,787,927 pesos,

853
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

854
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,820
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We also have

855
00:46:35,820 --> 00:46:38,420
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: partial figures for the year

856
00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:40,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 2026 from January

857
00:46:40,460 --> 00:46:41,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to July 2026

858
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang nai-remit po namin sa

859
00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:46,240
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: National Treasury was

860
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:51,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: in the amount of 2,658,991,272

861
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pesos.

862
00:46:54,220 --> 00:46:55,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: wala po kami

863
00:46:55,220 --> 00:46:57,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: your honor na special account

864
00:46:57,020 --> 00:46:58,120
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: what we have

865
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:58,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: is the amount of

866
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,320
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: is yung pong mga

867
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nari-remit po po namin

868
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: from the collection of the express lane fees

869
00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:07,520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 11% po nang

870
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nakokolekta namin sa express lane fees

871
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:12,560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: directa po namin dinideposit po

872
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pabalik sa National Treasury

873
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: your honor

874
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and sa year po na 2025

875
00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:19,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang 11% po na deposited

876
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: directly to the National Treasury

877
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:28,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: is 249,309,317.50

878
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,640
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po

879
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa January to July

880
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,620
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 2026

881
00:47:33,620 --> 00:47:36,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nakapag-deposito po kami yung 11% po

882
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na directly to the National Treasury

883
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: in the amount of

884
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:45,420
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 197,436,965 pesos

885
00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:45,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: your honor

886
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you

887
00:47:47,860 --> 00:47:49,840
Senator Panfilo Lacson: About the other agencies

888
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,280
Senator Panfilo Lacson: na meron ding income generation

889
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just a clarification

890
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sir,

891
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at Senator Ping

892
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nabanggit mo 4,619,000

893
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or is that 4,669,000,000?

894
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:13,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sorry, 4,669,000, your honor

895
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Not million

896
00:48:14,620 --> 00:48:15,860
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ah, sorry

897
00:48:15,860 --> 00:48:18,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ah, mahina sa mouth, your honor

898
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:25,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 4,669,787,927

899
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: thank you for the clarification

900
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yes, yes okay

901
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you

902
00:48:28,140 --> 00:48:32,760
Senator Panfilo Lacson: At ang nabalik lang sa inyo sa under the express lane, magkano lang?

903
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi wala nabalik sa inyo sa na-remit ninyo, no?

904
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,580
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Wala po, Your Honor.

905
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:44,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po talaga ang directly nire-remit namin, 11% po ng koleksyon, directly to the National Treasury, Your Honor.

906
00:48:44,020 --> 00:48:46,440
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung bumabalik sa inyo, from the express lane lang?

907
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung pong ano, ang breakdown po noon is...

908
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Teka, nawala na nga pala yung overtime nyo, no?

909
00:48:53,620 --> 00:48:54,280
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Wala po.

910
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pinatanggal nung kapartido ni Sen. Turquico.

911
00:48:56,860 --> 00:48:58,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sen. Turmar.

912
00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:00,460
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Tinalis ni Maro.

913
00:49:01,940 --> 00:49:02,920
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sana po yung...

914
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,920
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Hindi, every time, alam nyo, every time nadadaan kami doon sa immigration lane, ito yung dinadadaan ng mga employees ninyo, eh.

915
00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:11,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Baka pwedeng ibalik yung overtime.

916
00:49:11,780 --> 00:49:12,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Apo, Your Honor.

917
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:18,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: I don't know what it will take, no, to restore yung inyong overtime pay.

918
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi, this is...

919
00:49:21,940 --> 00:49:24,820
Senator Panfilo Lacson: The overtime pay is coming from the airlines, di ba?

920
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, po, Your Honor.

921
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:27,580
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yun ang tinanggal.

922
00:49:28,060 --> 00:49:28,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, po, Your Honor.

923
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, anyway, bahala na si Chairman, siya na may abogado pag-aralan nyo, paano ma-restore.

924
00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:34,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor.

925
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,100
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Saka siya rin yung Chairman ng Committee on Justice ng Senate.

926
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,920
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, probably...

927
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We will review.

928
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:40,100
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yeah.

929
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:41,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor.

930
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:41,700
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you.

931
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:42,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ano pang...

932
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:50,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, but, just to add, because we're finalizing your modernization bill.

933
00:49:51,180 --> 00:49:51,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

934
00:49:51,740 --> 00:49:54,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Baka pwedeng doon na i-incorporate yun, no?

935
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we'll also look into that.

936
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:56,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you, thank you.

937
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:57,420
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much, Po, Your Honor.

938
00:49:57,420 --> 00:49:57,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you.

939
00:49:57,980 --> 00:49:59,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Any other agency na merong income?

940
00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:00,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: NBI.

941
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Good morning, Your Honor.

942
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:05,120
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung legal, ha?

943
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:05,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Apo.

944
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kukonti na po yung illegal, e.

945
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Marami ko tayo inuli.

946
00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:17,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Last year, we have remitted 855,101,000.

947
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, ito po yung earnings natin from the NBI clearance.

948
00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:25,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: The NBI is charging 130 for every clearance.

949
00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:26,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And 30...

950
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:28,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, 160 yan.

951
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 30 pesos is for the provider ng system.

952
00:50:33,180 --> 00:50:37,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And out of that, under the law, the modernization law of NBI,

953
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:42,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we are supposed to receive 30% of the earnings,

954
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:44,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: but not more than 150 million.

955
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:50,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, lumalagpas po kami rin sa 150 kung 30% yung pagbabasihan.

956
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, we're just getting 150 million po every year.

957
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you.

958
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:57,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Any other?

959
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,620
Senator Panfilo Lacson: PAO ba merong kinikita?

960
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,880
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: By virtue of PAO law, co-sponsor po kayo nun.

961
00:51:04,380 --> 00:51:08,840
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Section 16D, the cost of suit, attorney's fees, and contingent fees

962
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,720
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: imposed upon the adversary of the PAO clients after a successful litigation

963
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:17,440
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: shall be deposited to the National Treasury as trust fund.

964
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,900
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Ang overall pong na-deposit na natin sa trust fund,

965
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:25,600
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Agent PAO National Treasury Account ay

966
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,700
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 243,476,758.98

967
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:31,660
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pesos.

968
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,520
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Sa buong 2025 po, 44,687,000 plus.

969
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,760
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: So, wala po kami nakukuha rito.

970
00:51:40,340 --> 00:51:43,740
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Pero sa batas po, nakalagay,

971
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,720
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: shall be dispersed for the special allowances of authorized officials,

972
00:51:48,580 --> 00:51:49,560
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: lawyers of the PAO.

973
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,520
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Hindi pa rin namin nakuha.

974
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,960
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Pati po yung upgrading ng senior para equivalent sa napros,

975
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,460
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: hindi pa rin po natutupad ng DBM.

976
00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:01,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Let's cut to the chase.

977
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,000
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ano lang, long and short, magkano yung universe?

978
00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:07,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 18 billion yung na-remit in 2025.

979
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Magkano yung nakabalik lang sa buong department?

980
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Let me clarify.

981
00:52:20,420 --> 00:52:23,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Nag-remit kayo in 2025 ng income generated na

982
00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:25,800
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 18 billion, 715 million,

983
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 924 thousand.

984
00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:30,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Magkano yung ibabalik sa inyo itong 2026?

985
00:52:31,460 --> 00:52:33,460
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Dito sa NEP, under special accounts.

986
00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:51,500
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Sorry, we'll just add yung the total.

987
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:52,800
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Special account lang po.

988
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,140
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Yung mga na ibabalik.

989
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,380
Senator Panfilo Lacson: NEP is just a proposed appropriations eh.

990
00:53:01,540 --> 00:53:04,360
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, kaya nga nire-review ng Congress yan, di ba?

991
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,460
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi nasa amin yung authorization phase.

992
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, we want to find out,

993
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: out of the 18 billion that you have remitted in 2025,

994
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: magkano yung total lang na binabalik sa inyo

995
00:53:16,740 --> 00:53:18,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: under special accounts?

996
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:22,180
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Meron pa bang ibang nababalik na outside the special accounts?

997
00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:25,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Wala na, di ba?

998
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:25,700
DOJ Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa B. Germar: Wala na, sir.

999
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Okay, magkano yung binabalik sa inyo itong ano?

1000
00:53:28,780 --> 00:53:30,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang nasa akin dito,

1001
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 1.78 billion for LRA.

1002
00:53:36,020 --> 00:53:37,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ito yung sinasabi nga from the 20%,

1003
00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:41,700
Senator Panfilo Lacson: which is short ng kulang ng 5%, ano?

1004
00:53:43,620 --> 00:53:48,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Tapos, 118.6 million for OSG.

1005
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:50,540
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yun lang eh.

1006
00:53:50,820 --> 00:53:54,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Wala bang ibang naambunan pa rito, ibang agencies?

1007
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,580
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ito lang ba yung total?

1008
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:56,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ...

1009
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:57,140
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ...

1010
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:06,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, the PCGG also has our Chairman, Justice Sadang.

1011
00:54:06,740 --> 00:54:07,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Go ahead, Justice.

1012
00:54:08,020 --> 00:54:09,660
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Good morning, Your Honors.

1013
00:54:10,060 --> 00:54:11,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Teka muna, tama-tama.

1014
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Dito pala yung director for ng DBM.

1015
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:18,380
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, siya yung gagang-up natin this morning.

1016
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,840
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Sa PCGG po,

1017
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,840
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: we were able to remit to the...

1018
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,800
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: National Treasury,

1019
00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:32,100
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: 1,571,000,000 pesos.

1020
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,860
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: We are entitled to 10%,

1021
00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:38,000
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: but 5% of that,

1022
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,420
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: we give to the OSG

1023
00:54:40,420 --> 00:54:43,500
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: because OSG represents the government

1024
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:46,340
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: in our cases filed in court.

1025
00:54:46,780 --> 00:54:48,680
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: So, out of the 1.5 billion,

1026
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,960
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: we were able to...

1027
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,720
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Only the amount of 23 million

1028
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:54,840
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: was

1029
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,600
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: availed of by the PCGG.

1030
00:54:57,660 --> 00:54:59,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, diyan ang galing yung...

1031
00:54:59,340 --> 00:54:59,580
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ano?

1032
00:54:59,780 --> 00:55:00,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Universe pala.

1033
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung 118 million ng for OSG

1034
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:04,580
Senator Panfilo Lacson: under the NEP.

1035
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:05,320
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Yes.

1036
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,120
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yun yung sinasabing yung

1037
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: papunta sa...

1038
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:09,520
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Galing sa inyo.

1039
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,360
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Part.

1040
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:11,280
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Part of it.

1041
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,760
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Yes, Mr. Senator.

1042
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you.

1043
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,420
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, medyo mahaba yung 10 minutes

1044
00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:17,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: para mapagbigay niyong iba.

1045
00:55:17,740 --> 00:55:18,840
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Mamaya na lang ako second round.

1046
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,020
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sige.

1047
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:20,620
Senator Panfilo Lacson: I'll wait 3 minutes.

1048
00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:21,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

1049
00:55:22,180 --> 00:55:24,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We now have our chairman

1050
00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:25,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Finance Committee.

1051
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do you have the floor,

1052
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator JV?

1053
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:31,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

1054
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1055
00:55:34,780 --> 00:55:36,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Nagmaga po sa DOJ family.

1056
00:55:38,860 --> 00:55:39,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway,

1057
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:40,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tanong ko siyempre tungkol sa

1058
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: budget, no?

1059
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dahil napansin ko lang na

1060
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of course,

1061
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just like any other departments

1062
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:49,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and agencies,

1063
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because of the very

1064
00:55:50,260 --> 00:55:52,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: limited fiscal space this year,

1065
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:53,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: everyone received

1066
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the signature

1067
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: significant budget

1068
00:55:57,620 --> 00:56:00,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: slashing of budget, no?

1069
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Lahat po halos, no?

1070
00:56:01,540 --> 00:56:02,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And the Department of Justice

1071
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: submitted a total budget request

1072
00:56:04,380 --> 00:56:07,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of 121.629 billion

1073
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but only 38.2%

1074
00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:14,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of this or 46.435 billion

1075
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: was recommended by DBM.

1076
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, for example,

1077
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for BI,

1078
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: amount of 1.602 billion

1079
00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:25,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: intended for ICT-related expansion

1080
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:26,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: was not recommended.

1081
00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:28,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: For Bucor,

1082
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sizable amount of

1083
00:56:29,820 --> 00:56:31,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 63.5 billion

1084
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:32,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: was not recommended

1085
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:33,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: intended for construction

1086
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:36,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of various prison facilities.

1087
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:38,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tapos,

1088
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro tanong ko na lang din po,

1089
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: significant,

1090
00:56:40,740 --> 00:56:42,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: medyo significant

1091
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang reduction

1092
00:56:44,780 --> 00:56:45,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung tungkol sa mga

1093
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: confidential funds.

1094
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:47,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: As you know that

1095
00:56:47,420 --> 00:56:49,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: this budget season,

1096
00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:50,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will be very strict

1097
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that we will limit only

1098
00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:53,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: confidential

1099
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and

1100
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:54,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and

1101
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:55,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and

1102
00:56:55,140 --> 00:56:55,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and

1103
00:56:55,340 --> 00:56:55,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and

1104
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:55,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and

1105
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: confidential funds

1106
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and

1107
00:56:58,300 --> 00:56:59,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: intelligence funds

1108
00:56:59,540 --> 00:57:01,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: only for agencies

1109
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that have something to do with

1110
00:57:03,060 --> 00:57:04,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: national security,

1111
00:57:04,540 --> 00:57:05,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: law enforcement,

1112
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:05,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and of course,

1113
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: investigation.

1114
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:07,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And DOJ, of course,

1115
00:57:08,380 --> 00:57:09,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with NBI

1116
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:09,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: being

1117
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:11,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the investigative arm

1118
00:57:11,580 --> 00:57:12,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: are the only ones

1119
00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:12,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that will

1120
00:57:12,860 --> 00:57:13,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: are one

1121
00:57:13,860 --> 00:57:14,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: one of the departments

1122
00:57:14,740 --> 00:57:15,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that will be allowed.

1123
00:57:16,380 --> 00:57:17,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tanong ko lang po, no?

1124
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung sa confidential pan,

1125
00:57:18,460 --> 00:57:19,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: medyo malaki din yung

1126
00:57:19,540 --> 00:57:20,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nabawas.

1127
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:22,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro,

1128
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sekretary,

1129
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:23,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: then probably

1130
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we'll ask the

1131
00:57:24,740 --> 00:57:25,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: attorney, Melvin,

1132
00:57:25,580 --> 00:57:26,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Matibag,

1133
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:26,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: NBI director,

1134
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: what will be the effect?

1135
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi po, marami,

1136
00:57:29,420 --> 00:57:30,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I understand, marami tayong

1137
00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:31,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: witnesses,

1138
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:33,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung mga witness protection

1139
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:33,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: program,

1140
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:35,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dito yung rin natin kinukuha

1141
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:35,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or

1142
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or aside from that,

1143
00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:38,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung mga pang

1144
00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:39,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ano natin sa mga

1145
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:39,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: information

1146
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:40,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and witnesses

1147
00:57:40,580 --> 00:57:42,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is

1148
00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:43,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: derived from the

1149
00:57:43,340 --> 00:57:44,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: confidential funds.

1150
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, what will be

1151
00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:45,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: affected,

1152
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:46,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sekretary Vida?

1153
00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:48,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Salamat po

1154
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:49,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng marami,

1155
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Senator JV.

1156
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang malaki po talagang

1157
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: maano,

1158
00:57:53,060 --> 00:57:54,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kasi sa confidential

1159
00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:55,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: activities

1160
00:57:55,140 --> 00:57:56,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para po sa

1161
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kaalaman ng lahat.

1162
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nilalatag kasi natin yan

1163
00:57:59,420 --> 00:58:00,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para matiyak natin

1164
00:58:00,620 --> 00:58:01,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para pag may

1165
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:02,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na-pick up na

1166
00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:03,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: informasyon

1167
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay handa tayo.

1168
00:58:05,980 --> 00:58:06,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Batid po natin

1169
00:58:06,940 --> 00:58:08,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang kahalagahan nito

1170
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pero

1171
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:10,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang amin pong

1172
00:58:10,780 --> 00:58:12,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: hiling sana ay

1173
00:58:12,020 --> 00:58:13,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: maibalik man lang

1174
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung 2026 level

1175
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para po hindi

1176
00:58:16,340 --> 00:58:17,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: maapektuhan

1177
00:58:17,740 --> 00:58:18,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng malaki.

1178
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tulad po ngayon,

1179
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:20,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: napak...

1180
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:23,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: What is the 2026 level?

1181
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: For the record.

1182
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:25,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: For the record po,

1183
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2026 level

1184
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:29,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is 1.1 billion.

1185
00:58:29,860 --> 00:58:30,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This year is

1186
00:58:30,460 --> 00:58:31,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for 2027,

1187
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it's 579.4.

1188
00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:34,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Am I correct?

1189
00:58:35,140 --> 00:58:35,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

1190
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, it's 45.8%.

1191
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:40,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It's lower.

1192
00:58:40,580 --> 00:58:41,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 45.8%.

1193
00:58:42,260 --> 00:58:42,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, opo.

1194
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:43,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige po.

1195
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige, please proceed.

1196
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This is basically

1197
00:58:45,940 --> 00:58:47,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: broken down po

1198
00:58:47,060 --> 00:58:47,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para sa

1199
00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:49,820
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: office of the

1200
00:58:49,820 --> 00:58:50,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: secretary proper.

1201
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:51,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May balik po yung

1202
00:58:51,940 --> 00:58:54,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 214 million.

1203
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:56,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi ang proposal po ngayon

1204
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:57,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay sa NEP ay

1205
00:58:57,620 --> 00:58:58,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 34 lamang.

1206
00:58:59,620 --> 00:59:00,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Para yung

1207
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa WPP po,

1208
00:59:02,260 --> 00:59:03,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may balik yung

1209
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 500 million.

1210
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi ang

1211
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa NEP po

1212
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:08,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay 319.9...

1213
00:59:09,860 --> 00:59:11,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 319 million,

1214
00:59:11,420 --> 00:59:12,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 900,000.

1215
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May balik po,

1216
00:59:14,180 --> 00:59:14,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: actually nga po

1217
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:15,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung sa IACAT,

1218
00:59:15,980 --> 00:59:17,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: napapansin po namin,

1219
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: interagency,

1220
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:19,560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung 10 million po

1221
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay kulang

1222
00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:21,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at talaga pong

1223
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kailangan pa namin

1224
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:22,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dagdagan

1225
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dahil may

1226
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dagdag pong hamon.

1227
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:26,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung cybercrime po

1228
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:29,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na 475,000

1229
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na isung manaming

1230
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: manumbalik

1231
00:59:31,340 --> 00:59:32,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dahil

1232
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang kagandahan po

1233
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:33,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dun sa laban mo

1234
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa cybercrime

1235
00:59:35,060 --> 00:59:36,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung atin pong

1236
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:37,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mga ginagampanan

1237
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:38,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa

1238
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mandatong ito

1239
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:40,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay

1240
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: akalinsabay

1241
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:42,600
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng ating

1242
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:43,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Office of the Cybercrime

1243
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:44,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng DOJ

1244
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:45,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na dyan po

1245
00:59:45,620 --> 00:59:46,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang NBI

1246
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na dyan po yung

1247
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:48,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: DICT

1248
00:59:48,660 --> 00:59:49,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at iba po

1249
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:49,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang ahensya.

1250
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:50,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So,

1251
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may balik lamang po

1252
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:53,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung 475.

1253
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang isa pa ho namin

1254
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sana ho

1255
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Senator

1256
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:58,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay yung sa

1257
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung sa NCC

1258
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: o SAEK. Dahil

1259
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:03,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nagiging komplikado po yung laban

1260
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:05,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: natin doon. Sana po yung

1261
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:06,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung

1262
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 5 million

1263
01:00:09,740 --> 01:00:11,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung zero po

1264
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na hindi po binigyan

1265
01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:16,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng confidential fund

1266
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para dito sa

1267
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:19,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: NCC o SAEK o SAEM.

1268
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sana po ay mabigyan kahit

1269
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 5 million po, Your Honor.

1270
01:00:24,140 --> 01:00:25,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung para po sa

1271
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Department of

1272
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Justice proper. Of course,

1273
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may hiwalay po sa

1274
01:00:33,580 --> 01:00:35,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: amin pong pamilya. Meron

1275
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po din hiwalay na request ng

1276
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: confidential fund at may allocation

1277
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang Bureau of Immigration

1278
01:00:41,540 --> 01:00:42,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na

1279
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for 2027

1280
01:00:46,020 --> 01:00:47,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay 20 million po

1281
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang sa Bureau of Immigration.

1282
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,820
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Maari pong

1283
01:00:51,820 --> 01:00:52,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: si

1284
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Commissioner Viado po

1285
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:56,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang mag

1286
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lahat ng kung ano magiging

1287
01:00:59,660 --> 01:01:01,560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: epekto kung ano. Please.

1288
01:01:02,740 --> 01:01:03,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Commissioner

1289
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Viado. So, 20 million

1290
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for 2027. How much

1291
01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:09,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for 2026?

1292
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:12,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 20 million

1293
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po for 2026,

1294
01:01:14,620 --> 01:01:15,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

1295
01:01:15,820 --> 01:01:18,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ah, same, 20 million. So, pareho lang po?

1296
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pareho lang po, Your Honor.

1297
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, ano pong mapiktuhan?

1298
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Would you

1299
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: request additional or that's

1300
01:01:25,860 --> 01:01:26,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: enough for the agency?

1301
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:27,940
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Makakatulong po ng malaki

1302
01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:29,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa amin ang

1303
01:01:29,660 --> 01:01:31,260
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: additional, ano po,

1304
01:01:31,660 --> 01:01:32,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pabudget po para dyan.

1305
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:35,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Considering, Your Honors,

1306
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang amin pong mga intelligence

1307
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:39,440
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: agents who have been operating

1308
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nationwide, at the moment po,

1309
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: wala pa hong 100 ho yan.

1310
01:01:44,580 --> 01:01:45,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tapos po,

1311
01:01:47,420 --> 01:01:48,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nagre-request po kami

1312
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa DBM ng additional

1313
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: positions. Ang amin pong

1314
01:01:52,220 --> 01:01:53,860
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: fugitive search unit, yung pong

1315
01:01:53,860 --> 01:01:55,600
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: mga humahabol o tumutugi sa mga

1316
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,660
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pugante, wala pa hong dalawang

1317
01:01:57,660 --> 01:01:59,620
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po yan, Your Honor. So, imagine niyo

1318
01:01:59,620 --> 01:02:00,540
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po yung aming

1319
01:02:00,540 --> 01:02:02,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: constraints pagdating sa

1320
01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:05,540
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pagpapalabas ng

1321
01:02:05,540 --> 01:02:07,540
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: mga hahabol po at tutugis

1322
01:02:07,540 --> 01:02:09,200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: at magagadar ng intelligence.

1323
01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:11,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ano po, 20 million po yan.

1324
01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:13,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nationwide po ang

1325
01:02:13,380 --> 01:02:15,440
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: operations namin. So, makakatulong po

1326
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng malaki kung yan po ay matatagdagan,

1327
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honors.

1328
01:02:18,380 --> 01:02:19,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: What is the

1329
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:19,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: proposal?

1330
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If possible po, Your Honor,

1331
01:02:22,940 --> 01:02:25,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 50 to 100 percent of that.

1332
01:02:25,420 --> 01:02:27,320
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, additional, ano po, 10 to

1333
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 20 million would be very much. I think, Senator,

1334
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:30,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Blackson would like to interject.

1335
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,580
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ano lang, just to highlight yung pagiging

1336
01:02:32,580 --> 01:02:33,920
Senator Panfilo Lacson: pretence, yung cybercrime,

1337
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:36,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 425,000, that's

1338
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,980
Senator Panfilo Lacson: annual, no? That's for one year?

1339
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:39,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's for one year.

1340
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,280
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Okay. So, kung i-divide mo ng 12,

1341
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:44,760
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 35,000 a month?

1342
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:45,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Apo.

1343
01:02:46,580 --> 01:02:48,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yun lang, Mr. Chairman, para lang

1344
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:50,820
Senator Panfilo Lacson: makita natin na ganun ka

1345
01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:52,080
Senator Panfilo Lacson: parang walang silbi.

1346
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi if you have 35,000 monthly

1347
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: intelligence fund, ano ma-accomplish mo?

1348
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:57,920
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you.

1349
01:02:58,740 --> 01:02:59,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya lang,

1350
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: magaganap ang cybercrime.

1351
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:02,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean,

1352
01:03:02,660 --> 01:03:05,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: part of the reason,

1353
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a factor, a major factor.

1354
01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:09,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Senator Jamie.

1355
01:03:09,740 --> 01:03:11,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And also, cybercrime is a

1356
01:03:11,340 --> 01:03:12,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: clear and present danger, no?

1357
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:15,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Talagang everyone, masyado na marami

1358
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: rin ang apektado sa cybercrime.

1359
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sen, sa pagpapatuloy po,

1360
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:20,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kung pwede po,

1361
01:03:20,860 --> 01:03:23,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang NBI po,

1362
01:03:23,540 --> 01:03:25,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang ga-a po nila

1363
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for 2026 is

1364
01:03:26,780 --> 01:03:28,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 350,400,000.

1365
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero sa NEP po,

1366
01:03:31,380 --> 01:03:32,600
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for 2027,

1367
01:03:33,300 --> 01:03:34,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po ay binaba sa

1368
01:03:34,780 --> 01:03:38,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 175,400,000.

1369
01:03:38,860 --> 01:03:40,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Si Director Melvin po

1370
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: would be able to explain.

1371
01:03:43,380 --> 01:03:44,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, so probably without

1372
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: divulging the specific confidential

1373
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: activities, because we know for a fact

1374
01:03:48,980 --> 01:03:50,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that of course, kayo po ang investigative

1375
01:03:50,540 --> 01:03:52,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: arm ng DOJ.

1376
01:03:55,460 --> 01:03:57,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: What will be severely

1377
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: affected? Kasi from

1378
01:03:58,940 --> 01:04:00,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 300 plus million,

1379
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 175 na lang po, no?

1380
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: What will be affected, of course, and

1381
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:06,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: what was the utilization?

1382
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Bakit to? Anong reason? Why

1383
01:04:08,260 --> 01:04:10,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: was this slashed by the DBM?

1384
01:04:11,260 --> 01:04:12,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Si Director Ney Matibag?

1385
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Good morning po, at maraming salamat po.

1386
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: At mabuti na i-raise po, and even

1387
01:04:16,740 --> 01:04:18,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: during the opening statement of

1388
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:20,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: good Senator

1389
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Francis Pangilinan, I noticed already

1390
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that there was already an emphasis on the matter.

1391
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Originally, tama po

1392
01:04:27,060 --> 01:04:28,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung sinabi ni Secretary Vida.

1393
01:04:28,940 --> 01:04:31,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Dun sa GAAPO last year,

1394
01:04:31,140 --> 01:04:33,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 300 dyan, but actually it's only

1395
01:04:33,140 --> 01:04:36,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 174,000,000.5

1396
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na nagkaroon lang po yung

1397
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: SICA, yung Congressional

1398
01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:41,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Enhancement po, dinagdagad,

1399
01:04:41,140 --> 01:04:42,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kaya naging 300 po.

1400
01:04:42,980 --> 01:04:44,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, we requested for

1401
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: a higher confidential

1402
01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:48,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: funds. We are requesting sana

1403
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of about mga 1 billion po

1404
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:53,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yan, divided to 12 months.

1405
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Because more than the

1406
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: expenses on the

1407
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung pong operations namin,

1408
01:04:58,940 --> 01:05:01,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we are intending to

1409
01:05:01,060 --> 01:05:02,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: procure tools and equipment

1410
01:05:02,580 --> 01:05:04,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to fight cybercrime.

1411
01:05:04,740 --> 01:05:07,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Right now, we are receiving cybercrime

1412
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: complaints. Siguro po,

1413
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:11,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 7 out of 10

1414
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: complaints involving cybercrime.

1415
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:14,860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung alam lang po nung

1416
01:05:14,860 --> 01:05:16,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga pangkaraniwan po

1417
01:05:16,940 --> 01:05:19,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nating mga kababayan, yung mga cyber

1418
01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:21,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: libel lang. But there are a lot of cyber scams

1419
01:05:21,180 --> 01:05:23,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: happening. Just recently,

1420
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I just returned from a trip from

1421
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Bangkok. This morning,

1422
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:28,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we have a coordination.

1423
01:05:28,940 --> 01:05:30,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: With the Homeland Security,

1424
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: United States Homeland Security Investigation

1425
01:05:32,980 --> 01:05:34,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and the

1426
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: CIB of Thailand.

1427
01:05:36,820 --> 01:05:38,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And we found out, ang dami pong

1428
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga scam na

1429
01:05:40,260 --> 01:05:42,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: naging intertwine, naging interrelate po

1430
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa atin dito sa Pilipinas.

1431
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:46,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: It's sad to say na

1432
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung pong ating mga criminals

1433
01:05:49,060 --> 01:05:51,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ngayon, medyo mas nagiging advanced pa.

1434
01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:52,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: If you recall, when Pogo

1435
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: was banned by the President,

1436
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung pong mga Pogo na to,

1437
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: they collapsed their operation into scam.

1438
01:05:58,940 --> 01:06:00,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Scam hub. Lab scam.

1439
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Mahalo-halo na po yan. Cryptocurrency.

1440
01:06:03,260 --> 01:06:04,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So marami naman pong tools.

1441
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We've been attending conferences

1442
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung saan yung mga tools were presented.

1443
01:06:09,580 --> 01:06:10,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And it's very difficult

1444
01:06:10,780 --> 01:06:12,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to get hold of it

1445
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: going through the usual procurement

1446
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: process. So yung nire-request

1447
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:18,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po namin increase sana dito

1448
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:20,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: for the confidential funds is for us

1449
01:06:20,820 --> 01:06:22,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to procure these tools to fight

1450
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung ganito pong mga criminal activities.

1451
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:26,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And right now,

1452
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: just to give the easier,

1453
01:06:28,940 --> 01:06:30,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: explanation, why are we asking for

1454
01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:33,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: for a higher confidential funds.

1455
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Last year, we are averaging

1456
01:06:35,140 --> 01:06:36,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: about 110 operations

1457
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: monthly. Magkakasama na po yan

1458
01:06:39,140 --> 01:06:41,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung successful tsaka yung pong mga operations

1459
01:06:41,180 --> 01:06:43,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na hindi naman po talaga admittedly

1460
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hindi lahat ng operations will be

1461
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: successful. But starting po

1462
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nitong maddang mga April,

1463
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nag-erange na po kami ng 200 to

1464
01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:52,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 220 operations.

1465
01:06:52,540 --> 01:06:54,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Every month po, Director?

1466
01:06:54,460 --> 01:06:57,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 200 to 220 operations

1467
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: monthly po.

1468
01:06:58,940 --> 01:07:01,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And I think the good Senator Ping Laxon

1469
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: can very well relate to this.

1470
01:07:02,820 --> 01:07:05,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasi meron pong co-plan na tinatawag yan.

1471
01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:07,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And in this co-plan, we spend so much

1472
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:09,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to yung mga witnesses,

1473
01:07:09,620 --> 01:07:11,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: information gathering, surveillance,

1474
01:07:11,260 --> 01:07:13,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which will last from 3 weeks to 1 month.

1475
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung ikot po ng tao.

1476
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So let's say, on the average,

1477
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we'll spend 100 to 200,000 pesos

1478
01:07:20,660 --> 01:07:21,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: per operations.

1479
01:07:22,060 --> 01:07:23,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: At 200 operations

1480
01:07:24,620 --> 01:07:25,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: per month,

1481
01:07:25,620 --> 01:07:27,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that's already about 40 million po

1482
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:28,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ang kailangan natin na,

1483
01:07:28,420 --> 01:07:29,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: expenses.

1484
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Let me cite a specific example

1485
01:07:32,260 --> 01:07:34,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng operation namin na napakalaki po

1486
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng gastos. I'm sure everybody

1487
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:37,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: heard about yung operation namin going

1488
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: after substandard metals

1489
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and radioactive materials.

1490
01:07:41,820 --> 01:07:44,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung pagbili pa lang po namin ng mga samples

1491
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dyan. Anyway, this can be

1492
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:48,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: details dahil, ano lang naman po

1493
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: minimum lang. Yung mga bakal po

1494
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na bibili namin, will already

1495
01:07:52,580 --> 01:07:53,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: cost about millions.

1496
01:07:54,540 --> 01:07:55,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So yun po yung

1497
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hinihiling namin dito.

1498
01:07:57,180 --> 01:07:59,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And of course, I know

1499
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that the Senate can

1500
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:02,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: very well exercise oversight

1501
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:04,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na hindi ba natin

1502
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: i-devolge yung ano po rito,

1503
01:08:07,260 --> 01:08:09,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung ating pong operational capacity

1504
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:11,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because of the national security issue.

1505
01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:15,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Open naman po kami dun sa ganoon.

1506
01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:17,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And mostly yun pong tools. Good thing po,

1507
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:18,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there are people that we help,

1508
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:20,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Agriculturalist Valley, that I know that

1509
01:08:20,980 --> 01:08:23,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the interest of good Senator Senator Francis,

1510
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ngayon po ang NBI,

1511
01:08:25,300 --> 01:08:27,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we're able to apprehend about 15

1512
01:08:27,180 --> 01:08:29,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: billion worth of illegally

1513
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:31,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung pong mga smuggled

1514
01:08:31,420 --> 01:08:32,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na goods.

1515
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We catch 59 containers

1516
01:08:35,500 --> 01:08:37,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of illegal cigarettes po.

1517
01:08:38,460 --> 01:08:39,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Based on the

1518
01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:41,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: computation of beer, 15 billion po yan.

1519
01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:43,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So tuloy-tuloy po yan.

1520
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: At ang ginagawa po namin,

1521
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: from surveillance to apprehension

1522
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: until dalhin po namin sa

1523
01:08:49,220 --> 01:08:50,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: national prosecution.

1524
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So medyo mahaba po

1525
01:08:53,420 --> 01:08:55,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na trabaho, na yun po talaga

1526
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung kailangan namin na

1527
01:08:56,540 --> 01:08:58,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: additional na fundings.

1528
01:08:58,460 --> 01:09:00,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And I have to mention that

1529
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Secre-Vida, yung po kanilang confidential,

1530
01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:04,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to augment yung samin,

1531
01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:06,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nag-uusap po kami, nagdadagdag po po sila

1532
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa amin para magawa po namin yun.

1533
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And si Commissioner Joel

1534
01:09:11,060 --> 01:09:12,860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mentioned about the

1535
01:09:12,860 --> 01:09:14,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: FSU po niya,

1536
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:16,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ino-augment din po namin yun.

1537
01:09:16,580 --> 01:09:18,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We have very good coordination para po magawa

1538
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: namin yan. So that will be

1539
01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:22,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the reason. But of course, whatever will be

1540
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: given to us, we will make good of

1541
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:26,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: what we can do.

1542
01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:28,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We will try to maintain kung ano po yung

1543
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nagagawa namin and improve it. Salamat po.

1544
01:09:31,580 --> 01:09:33,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just on that point,

1545
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:34,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator J,

1546
01:09:34,780 --> 01:09:36,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with your permission. In fact,

1547
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa DBCC

1548
01:09:38,740 --> 01:09:40,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: presentation, sabi ng BSP,

1549
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the retail

1550
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:43,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: payments

1551
01:09:43,900 --> 01:09:46,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nationwide,

1552
01:09:46,780 --> 01:09:48,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 64% are

1553
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: online. So sa

1554
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bawat sampu na

1555
01:09:52,420 --> 01:09:55,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bayaran na retail,

1556
01:09:55,660 --> 01:09:56,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 6% e online.

1557
01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:58,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So understandably so,

1558
01:09:59,180 --> 01:10:00,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung cyber

1559
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: criminal

1560
01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:04,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: activities,

1561
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: alaki nung

1562
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: makukuha nila

1563
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil

1564
01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:12,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: trilyon actually ang mga

1565
01:10:12,340 --> 01:10:13,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: transaksyon. Tapos

1566
01:10:13,900 --> 01:10:16,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 34,000 a day, ano, a month.

1567
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,700
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 35,000 per month.

1568
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's really a cause

1569
01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:22,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for concern. The other thing that

1570
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: si Senator Ping,

1571
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with your permission, Senator JV,

1572
01:10:26,540 --> 01:10:28,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung customs

1573
01:10:28,380 --> 01:10:30,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: modernization measured kasi,

1574
01:10:30,740 --> 01:10:32,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: merong component doon

1575
01:10:32,660 --> 01:10:34,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na pagka may mga

1576
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:36,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rewards, ini-implement

1577
01:10:36,460 --> 01:10:37,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ba ninyo yun?

1578
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Hindi po kami nakaka-implement

1579
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: doon. Actually,

1580
01:10:41,780 --> 01:10:44,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: let's say, for example, yung pong aming operations

1581
01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:46,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na latest nga, what we were able

1582
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to up, and 59 containers of

1583
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: smuggled cigarettes,

1584
01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:52,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tinaturn over po namin sa

1585
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:54,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: BOC yan. Tapos,

1586
01:10:54,180 --> 01:10:55,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: or ang

1587
01:10:55,660 --> 01:10:55,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga

1588
01:10:56,540 --> 01:10:57,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: WSD po, yung

1589
01:10:57,740 --> 01:11:01,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: either sa BIR nga po, or sa

1590
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Bureau of Customs. But that's a good idea

1591
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:05,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because we're discussing it na

1592
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:07,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: probably we'll have to claim also for that

1593
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so that we can get a reward

1594
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and upgrade whatever capacity

1595
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:12,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that we have in the enforcement.

1596
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:15,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I-check ninyo kasi, hindi naman

1597
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: siguro, pero baka merong tumatanggap

1598
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nung reward, pero hindi nyo alam

1599
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:20,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na nakapangalan sa inyo.

1600
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:21,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Biro lang.

1601
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir.

1602
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:25,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you.

1603
01:11:26,540 --> 01:11:28,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dagdag na natin because cybercrime is part

1604
01:11:28,940 --> 01:11:30,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of NBI's, ano, no? Isa sa mga

1605
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: talagang inaano nyo yun, natin

1606
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:35,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: focus, no? And it

1607
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: was pointed out earlier by Senator

1608
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Lackson, no? 475,000

1609
01:11:41,620 --> 01:11:43,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung is office of the cybercrime

1610
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na confidential fund.

1611
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, sa NBI,

1612
01:11:47,460 --> 01:11:48,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dun sa 175 million,

1613
01:11:48,940 --> 01:11:50,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: part na rin po ba yun? Do you spend also

1614
01:11:50,900 --> 01:11:53,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for, of course, sa cybercrime,

1615
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: mga ilan po kaya ang

1616
01:11:54,580 --> 01:11:56,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ginagastos nyo ron? Kasi,

1617
01:11:56,540 --> 01:11:58,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nabawasan na nga yung sa inyong, ano, yung

1618
01:11:58,660 --> 01:12:00,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: usual, yung from 300

1619
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to 175, no? So,

1620
01:12:02,660 --> 01:12:05,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasama rin to ang cybercrime.

1621
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:07,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes, sir.

1622
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Alamsam na po ito, eh.

1623
01:12:09,140 --> 01:12:10,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, yung per-operation namin,

1624
01:12:10,900 --> 01:12:13,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we'll devote the dedicated expenses

1625
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:14,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na kailangan po. Ang naiiwan

1626
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nga po, yung desire sana namin to

1627
01:12:16,820 --> 01:12:19,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: upgrade our law enforcement

1628
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: capacity by procuring the

1629
01:12:20,780 --> 01:12:23,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: necessary equipment and tools.

1630
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasi po, magkiba pa yung cybercrime

1631
01:12:24,860 --> 01:12:26,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa cyberprod, eh. So,

1632
01:12:26,540 --> 01:12:28,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung cyberprod, dun nga po yung mas mabigat.

1633
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: May mas mga economic impact po talaga

1634
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ito, eh, na tinitingnan po namin.

1635
01:12:33,420 --> 01:12:34,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Ang sinasabi ko nga,

1636
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: probably the next budget

1637
01:12:36,660 --> 01:12:38,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: cycle, hihimayin namin

1638
01:12:38,660 --> 01:12:40,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na dapat ito yung kailangan namin

1639
01:12:40,540 --> 01:12:41,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: confidential funds for

1640
01:12:41,940 --> 01:12:44,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the cybercrime, for the cyberprod,

1641
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: for the USAIC, for the CISAM.

1642
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Lahat po yan, eh. May

1643
01:12:48,140 --> 01:12:49,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: transnational tries pa po kami. And,

1644
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I would like to mention, insert ko na rin po,

1645
01:12:53,140 --> 01:12:54,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na we are intending

1646
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to put sana,

1647
01:12:56,540 --> 01:12:57,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: NBI liaison

1648
01:12:57,940 --> 01:13:00,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: in other countries, yung sa

1649
01:13:00,740 --> 01:13:02,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga embassies po natin, that we have the strong

1650
01:13:02,780 --> 01:13:05,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: presence of our OFWs.

1651
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasi, napansin po namin na

1652
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tumataas po yung cases

1653
01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:10,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng mga cyberprod, dahil nabibiktima po

1654
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung mga OFWs natin.

1655
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And it will be good if we have an

1656
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: NBI attache

1657
01:13:16,860 --> 01:13:18,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: representing para po doon,

1658
01:13:18,620 --> 01:13:20,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ma-process, matulungan na po natin yung atin po

1659
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga kababayan na OFW.

1660
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Anyway, it's provided for under the

1661
01:13:24,740 --> 01:13:26,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Republic of Modernizing the,

1662
01:13:26,540 --> 01:13:28,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the NBI, na kailangan po,

1663
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: meron po tayong mga

1664
01:13:30,620 --> 01:13:32,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: attache din po. And then,

1665
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:34,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: other than that,

1666
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the coordination with our counterparts abroad

1667
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: will be easier for us to address

1668
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: transnational crimes po.

1669
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:42,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: With the permission

1670
01:13:42,780 --> 01:13:44,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of Senator JV, bakit hindi na-implementa

1671
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung meron ng

1672
01:13:45,820 --> 01:13:47,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: provision sa

1673
01:13:47,780 --> 01:13:50,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: modernization ng NBI?

1674
01:13:50,740 --> 01:13:52,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Well, unang-una na po yun, yung

1675
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:54,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: budgetary constraint po talaga.

1676
01:13:54,860 --> 01:13:56,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, right now, what we are doing,

1677
01:13:56,540 --> 01:13:58,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we form a technical working group to

1678
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:00,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: coordinate it with the Department

1679
01:14:00,440 --> 01:14:02,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of Foreign Affairs for us to

1680
01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:03,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: implement it po.

1681
01:14:04,060 --> 01:14:06,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Perhaps, baka masyadong malaki

1682
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hinihingi ninyo. Baka dapat mag-upisa doon

1683
01:14:08,380 --> 01:14:10,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa mga areas lang na...

1684
01:14:10,260 --> 01:14:12,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kung mga ipilot nyo muna, di ba?

1685
01:14:12,540 --> 01:14:13,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead.

1686
01:14:13,300 --> 01:14:16,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We are targeting muna yung areas like

1687
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Middle East, then sa Europe,

1688
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:19,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: then sa South America,

1689
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: then dito po sa Asia, yung malaki po

1690
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:24,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na presence. Hindi po lahat ng ating

1691
01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:25,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng embassy.

1692
01:14:25,060 --> 01:14:25,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Hindi po sa malaki presence.

1693
01:14:26,540 --> 01:14:28,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Timeline, Director,

1694
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as to when you can implement

1695
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: portions, provisions of the law?

1696
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Well, kung malagyan po natin

1697
01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:37,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ang kaukulan po na

1698
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:38,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kailangan na budget,

1699
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we are already preparing the framework.

1700
01:14:41,420 --> 01:14:41,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We are...

1701
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Meron naman po kami mga counterparts like the

1702
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:46,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: very constant coordination with the FBI

1703
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na meron po silang attache

1704
01:14:49,220 --> 01:14:51,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: everywhere na kung paano po

1705
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:53,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: namin gagawin. So, mabilis na lang po

1706
01:14:53,020 --> 01:14:55,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: siguro, with the next year,

1707
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: meron na po tayo mga...

1708
01:14:56,540 --> 01:14:57,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I-forget natin next year para

1709
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maikasana.

1710
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we'll help you

1711
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as chairman of the committee on justice

1712
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: maraming salamat po

1713
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: doon sa cyber

1714
01:15:07,340 --> 01:15:10,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cybercrime, cyberfraud, cyberlibel

1715
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung karamihan yan, hinahawakan nyo rin

1716
01:15:12,820 --> 01:15:14,520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: so siguro dahil

1717
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: very prevalent na yung cyberfraud

1718
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ngayon, halos lahat online na

1719
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung mga scam at lahat

1720
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:21,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just to give us an idea

1721
01:15:21,940 --> 01:15:24,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: how many cases do you

1722
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:25,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: handle of cyberfraud kaya

1723
01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:28,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just to give us a ballpark

1724
01:15:28,540 --> 01:15:30,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: figure every, at least every month

1725
01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:32,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: well, every month na lang po

1726
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: very basic, pagsabay na po natin yung

1727
01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:36,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tatlo, on the average we're about getting

1728
01:15:36,580 --> 01:15:38,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 7 to 8 cases po, out of

1729
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 10, sa NBI po

1730
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung hindi man po sa directly related

1731
01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:44,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung mga crimes po

1732
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na ginawa, eh, related

1733
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po sa cyber, let me say

1734
01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:49,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa

1735
01:15:49,220 --> 01:15:52,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: example, yung pong nangyayari ngayon

1736
01:15:52,620 --> 01:15:53,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung nihilistic violence

1737
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that is cyber, at yung monitoring

1738
01:15:56,780 --> 01:15:58,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po natin dyan, nasa deep web po

1739
01:15:58,420 --> 01:16:00,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sila dyan, sa dark web, kailangan natin makita

1740
01:16:00,620 --> 01:16:02,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and we are doing

1741
01:16:02,540 --> 01:16:04,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: our best to monitor it, and incidentally

1742
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: report ko lang po

1743
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:08,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yesterday, we were able to

1744
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: get hold of one of the individuals

1745
01:16:10,420 --> 01:16:11,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na somehow

1746
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: related to what happened in South Cotabato

1747
01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:16,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and yesterday also

1748
01:16:16,740 --> 01:16:18,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we made an apprehension

1749
01:16:18,620 --> 01:16:20,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of one of suspected groomers

1750
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: from Cebu, and

1751
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: with the help of the NPS and DOJ

1752
01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:25,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we will be processing it today

1753
01:16:25,660 --> 01:16:28,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and probably by the next coming days

1754
01:16:28,420 --> 01:16:30,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there will be 10 rescue of individuals

1755
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:31,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: who belong to that group, yung

1756
01:16:31,780 --> 01:16:34,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: COA po at sa NBI groups po

1757
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pero kung meron po siguro

1758
01:16:36,460 --> 01:16:36,860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kaming

1759
01:16:36,860 --> 01:16:40,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung sinasabi kong

1760
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tools namin, which are available

1761
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: adyan na naman po yung mga tools na yan

1762
01:16:44,620 --> 01:16:46,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that ang sakin lang po

1763
01:16:46,660 --> 01:16:48,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: it should not go to the ordinary procurement

1764
01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:50,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because that is something that somehow

1765
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: like a trade secret for law

1766
01:16:52,460 --> 01:16:54,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: enforcement, eh baka mas mabilis

1767
01:16:54,740 --> 01:16:56,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po sana, but we're doing

1768
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: our best and with the

1769
01:16:58,420 --> 01:17:00,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: coordination of DOJ po and other

1770
01:17:00,380 --> 01:17:02,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: DSWD also

1771
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: eh meron naman po tayong progress ngayon dito

1772
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and we will make that report

1773
01:17:06,620 --> 01:17:07,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: also to the Senate po

1774
01:17:07,940 --> 01:17:09,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on that point

1775
01:17:09,620 --> 01:17:10,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Director

1776
01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:14,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron tayong mga nalalakap na

1777
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: informasyon na

1778
01:17:15,420 --> 01:17:18,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: parang unusual

1779
01:17:18,220 --> 01:17:20,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or hindi pangkaraniwan

1780
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung tatlong beses

1781
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:23,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sunod-sunod every month

1782
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung mass shooting

1783
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na never nangyayarin

1784
01:17:28,420 --> 01:17:31,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: which leads many

1785
01:17:31,540 --> 01:17:33,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to suspect that this is actually

1786
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: organized

1787
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: syndicated and calibrated

1788
01:17:37,740 --> 01:17:41,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and I wouldn't be surprised if it is

1789
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:43,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as a means

1790
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to create chaos

1791
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to

1792
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: create instability

1793
01:17:48,620 --> 01:17:49,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to

1794
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: create fear

1795
01:17:52,340 --> 01:17:55,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because

1796
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and to make government

1797
01:17:57,620 --> 01:17:58,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: look weak

1798
01:17:58,420 --> 01:17:59,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in other words

1799
01:17:59,540 --> 01:18:01,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that asked Angel

1800
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ako, nung lakarang eleksyon

1801
01:18:04,140 --> 01:18:06,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ako yung valediktorian ng disinformation eh

1802
01:18:06,580 --> 01:18:09,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga 100 million views

1803
01:18:09,020 --> 01:18:09,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng paninira

1804
01:18:09,780 --> 01:18:11,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directed at me

1805
01:18:11,220 --> 01:18:14,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na hundreds of

1806
01:18:14,220 --> 01:18:16,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or billions of pesos worth

1807
01:18:16,060 --> 01:18:18,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in other words, I know it can be done

1808
01:18:18,740 --> 01:18:19,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung paninira

1809
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's actually done

1810
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and I'm a victim of that

1811
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so if it can be done

1812
01:18:25,460 --> 01:18:27,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in electoral campaigns

1813
01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:29,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then it can also be done

1814
01:18:29,940 --> 01:18:30,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: today

1815
01:18:30,860 --> 01:18:33,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kasi ako

1816
01:18:33,460 --> 01:18:35,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, it got me thinking

1817
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:36,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: never

1818
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in our 20 plus years

1819
01:18:39,300 --> 01:18:39,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the senate

1820
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:41,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that you have a mass shooting

1821
01:18:41,820 --> 01:18:43,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: every month

1822
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: out of the blue

1823
01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:47,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: this year alone

1824
01:18:47,220 --> 01:18:49,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and I remember also

1825
01:18:49,980 --> 01:18:52,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

1826
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:54,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when I was NFA chairman of the board

1827
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagkaroon ng issue

1828
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on plastic rice

1829
01:18:58,420 --> 01:19:01,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagkaroon ng frenzy

1830
01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:03,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: natakot yung tao

1831
01:19:03,820 --> 01:19:06,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil daw baka yung kinakain nila

1832
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:07,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ay lason

1833
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and when we monitored it

1834
01:19:10,300 --> 01:19:12,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: merong orchestrated effort

1835
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to spread this information

1836
01:19:15,140 --> 01:19:16,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to make

1837
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kaya ako yung NFA chairman eh

1838
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so what we did to counter it

1839
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung everyday

1840
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron silang nilalabas na information

1841
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: about fake rice

1842
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: everyday may nilalabas kaming information

1843
01:19:28,420 --> 01:19:30,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: about testing these

1844
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:31,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: reports

1845
01:19:31,740 --> 01:19:33,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and belaying

1846
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

1847
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rumors

1848
01:19:38,420 --> 01:19:39,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of fake rice

1849
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we had 111 reports of fake rice

1850
01:19:42,700 --> 01:19:43,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nationwide

1851
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we tested 111

1852
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of those rice

1853
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:49,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: reported as fake

1854
01:19:49,740 --> 01:19:52,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and only one was actually contaminated

1855
01:19:52,820 --> 01:19:55,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so it was a frenzy

1856
01:19:55,020 --> 01:19:55,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it was a hype

1857
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it was orchestrated

1858
01:19:57,260 --> 01:19:58,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we believe that

1859
01:19:58,420 --> 01:20:00,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to create fear

1860
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and anger

1861
01:20:03,420 --> 01:20:07,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and so I'm just concerned

1862
01:20:07,060 --> 01:20:08,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: please

1863
01:20:08,860 --> 01:20:11,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: whatever you can divulge

1864
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:11,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: go ahead

1865
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but if you think that will

1866
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: compromise your own investigations

1867
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:17,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: feel free to say so

1868
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: well within the agency po

1869
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: as regards to NBE cases

1870
01:20:22,340 --> 01:20:24,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we are preparing

1871
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:25,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: a legislative framework

1872
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that we will submit to the Senate

1873
01:20:27,820 --> 01:20:28,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and the House of Representatives

1874
01:20:28,380 --> 01:20:29,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so representative

1875
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:30,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: eto na po yung tinatawag naming

1876
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: age gating

1877
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: wherein the use of the social media

1878
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of the cyber

1879
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: will be somehow monitored

1880
01:20:37,660 --> 01:20:40,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so we are using the term age gating

1881
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:42,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so depende po sa edad

1882
01:20:42,020 --> 01:20:44,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung paano natin ito

1883
01:20:44,340 --> 01:20:45,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: papagamitin

1884
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:46,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: at paano na gamitin

1885
01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:49,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and yung trust assessment analytics po

1886
01:20:49,540 --> 01:20:50,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na kailangan natin

1887
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dun po pumapasok yung pinag-uusapan natin

1888
01:20:52,780 --> 01:20:54,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na may pangangailangan po kami

1889
01:20:54,540 --> 01:20:56,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa additional na pondo

1890
01:20:56,580 --> 01:20:58,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: para po maka-cope up po ito

1891
01:20:58,380 --> 01:20:58,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tayo dun

1892
01:20:58,820 --> 01:21:01,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tapos coordination with the school

1893
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:02,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung threat validation

1894
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung school response po

1895
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:05,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na gagawin

1896
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which what we did

1897
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:07,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kaya po namin nakuha

1898
01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:08,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: itong personality

1899
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: from South Cotabato

1900
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:10,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because of the

1901
01:21:10,780 --> 01:21:12,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: assistance of the schools

1902
01:21:12,620 --> 01:21:13,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: evolved po

1903
01:21:13,300 --> 01:21:14,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dito sa ating ginagawa

1904
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: but I agree with you

1905
01:21:16,340 --> 01:21:16,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Senator

1906
01:21:16,900 --> 01:21:18,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: napakadali pong gumawa

1907
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:19,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng mga istorya ngayon

1908
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: at nakikita naman natin yan

1909
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:21,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: araw-araw

1910
01:21:21,940 --> 01:21:24,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and that is what we want to pipe

1911
01:21:24,260 --> 01:21:25,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kami po sa NBI

1912
01:21:25,340 --> 01:21:27,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we don't want that our

1913
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:28,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: electoral process

1914
01:21:28,380 --> 01:21:30,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: our judicial process

1915
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:31,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: our legislative process

1916
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: at yung ginagawa ng ating gobyerno

1917
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: will be dictated by people

1918
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:36,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: who can manipulate

1919
01:21:36,980 --> 01:21:38,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dito po sa cyberspace

1920
01:21:38,740 --> 01:21:40,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: wherein nangyayari po talaga

1921
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:41,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: at nakikita natin

1922
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:42,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and easy to blame

1923
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we don't want to blame anyone

1924
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dito sa nangyayari ito

1925
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: some people are too easy to say

1926
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that they're blaming the government

1927
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dahil nangyayari ito

1928
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:51,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pero if you will look po

1929
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that is a valid concern

1930
01:21:53,540 --> 01:21:55,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na Senator Francis

1931
01:21:55,220 --> 01:21:55,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ano po

1932
01:21:55,700 --> 01:21:57,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sapagkat na

1933
01:21:57,060 --> 01:21:58,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dun tinitingnan po

1934
01:21:58,380 --> 01:21:58,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po namin

1935
01:21:58,800 --> 01:21:59,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: talagang may mga

1936
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:00,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: signals eh

1937
01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:01,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: halo-halo na po to

1938
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:02,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: meron talagang

1939
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:03,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: NBA group

1940
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:04,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: meron naman po

1941
01:22:04,940 --> 01:22:06,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga lurkers na tinatawag

1942
01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:06,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na

1943
01:22:06,820 --> 01:22:08,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kinokopia lang ito

1944
01:22:08,380 --> 01:22:09,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: meron as simple as

1945
01:22:09,820 --> 01:22:10,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung estudyante

1946
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hindi nakagawa ng homework

1947
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: magsasabi na may

1948
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:14,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: shooting na mangyayari

1949
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so those are the things

1950
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that we want to monitor

1951
01:22:18,060 --> 01:22:19,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: as a team

1952
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: within the family of DOJ

1953
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:21,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and of course

1954
01:22:21,940 --> 01:22:22,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ang NBI po

1955
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we want to be

1956
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:26,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: very active on this one

1957
01:22:26,180 --> 01:22:28,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: meron po kaming mga ehente

1958
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:29,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na kayang gawin ito

1959
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: but we are really

1960
01:22:30,540 --> 01:22:32,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: lacking of the tools

1961
01:22:32,060 --> 01:22:32,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that we need

1962
01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:34,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and I was just happy to say

1963
01:22:34,780 --> 01:22:36,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung iba pong tools namin

1964
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we have private partners

1965
01:22:37,580 --> 01:22:37,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: like

1966
01:22:37,940 --> 01:22:39,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Philip Morris

1967
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:40,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that they were very happy

1968
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:40,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: with our

1969
01:22:40,940 --> 01:22:42,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: performance

1970
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dun po sa agriculture smuggling

1971
01:22:43,620 --> 01:22:44,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that they are donating

1972
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: drones for us

1973
01:22:46,060 --> 01:22:47,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to use for our

1974
01:22:47,260 --> 01:22:48,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: crime fighting

1975
01:22:48,580 --> 01:22:48,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so

1976
01:22:48,980 --> 01:22:50,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sana po

1977
01:22:50,260 --> 01:22:51,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung gobyerno natin mismo

1978
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:52,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: through your help

1979
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we're able to raise

1980
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:55,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the funds that we need

1981
01:22:55,340 --> 01:22:56,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and

1982
01:22:56,060 --> 01:22:57,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: you have our commitment

1983
01:22:57,380 --> 01:22:58,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that we will use it

1984
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: for this purpose

1985
01:22:59,860 --> 01:23:01,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so that sigurado tayo

1986
01:23:01,780 --> 01:23:05,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung ating pong mga electoral process

1987
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: will not be manipulated

1988
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung ating pong judicial process

1989
01:23:08,700 --> 01:23:09,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: senate process

1990
01:23:09,580 --> 01:23:10,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: will not be manipulated

1991
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: by the people

1992
01:23:12,180 --> 01:23:13,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: who have the edge

1993
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:15,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa social media po natin

1994
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:16,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa cyberspace

1995
01:23:16,540 --> 01:23:18,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because they are being supported by

1996
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: a powerful group somehow

1997
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know you said that no

1998
01:23:23,140 --> 01:23:24,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa akin

1999
01:23:24,020 --> 01:23:25,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's bad enough kung lokal

2000
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean hindi dapat diba

2001
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worse kung

2002
01:23:29,500 --> 01:23:30,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung

2003
01:23:30,940 --> 01:23:32,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: foreign

2004
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang nangingelam sa atin dito

2005
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:35,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: diba

2006
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:36,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and that's why

2007
01:23:36,460 --> 01:23:37,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you need

2008
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:39,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we need to beef up your

2009
01:23:39,460 --> 01:23:40,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: capacity

2010
01:23:40,620 --> 01:23:40,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: diba

2011
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to be able to check

2012
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:43,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and

2013
01:23:43,380 --> 01:23:44,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: counter

2014
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:44,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and

2015
01:23:44,660 --> 01:23:46,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and

2016
01:23:46,460 --> 01:23:48,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: make the necessary arrests

2017
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:49,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know

2018
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: findings and arrests

2019
01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:51,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and

2020
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: address itong mga issues

2021
01:23:53,500 --> 01:23:54,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung talagang

2022
01:23:54,260 --> 01:23:54,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yun na nga

2023
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: merong foreign hand

2024
01:23:56,500 --> 01:23:56,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: no

2025
01:23:56,740 --> 01:23:59,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you wish to say something

2026
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:00,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yes if I may

2027
01:24:00,460 --> 01:24:04,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the department of justice

2028
01:24:04,060 --> 01:24:06,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we share

2029
01:24:06,940 --> 01:24:09,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: probably the agony

2030
01:24:09,020 --> 01:24:10,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or the difficulty of the DBM

2031
01:24:10,660 --> 01:24:13,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in allocating

2032
01:24:13,660 --> 01:24:15,560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the finite resources of the government

2033
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: but we confirm

2034
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the women and men of the department of justice

2035
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: each attached agencies

2036
01:24:21,500 --> 01:24:22,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: will fulfill its mandate

2037
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,820
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: whatever the resources will be shared with us

2038
01:24:25,820 --> 01:24:26,560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or whatever will be shared with us

2039
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:27,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: whatever will be allowed

2040
01:24:27,340 --> 01:24:28,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: but we also confirm

2041
01:24:28,780 --> 01:24:30,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that we definitely

2042
01:24:30,180 --> 01:24:31,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: need

2043
01:24:31,380 --> 01:24:33,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to conduct

2044
01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:34,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: these confidential activities

2045
01:24:34,580 --> 01:24:35,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that

2046
01:24:35,340 --> 01:24:36,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that we will

2047
01:24:36,980 --> 01:24:38,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: completely

2048
01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:39,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: fulfill our mandates

2049
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:40,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: your honors

2050
01:24:40,020 --> 01:24:41,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and we submit to the

2051
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: good sense of the senate

2052
01:24:43,220 --> 01:24:44,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and the congress

2053
01:24:44,060 --> 01:24:46,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on how we will be funded

2054
01:24:46,060 --> 01:24:47,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on all these requests

2055
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:47,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: your honors

2056
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thank you secretary

2057
01:24:49,260 --> 01:24:50,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: go ahead sir

2058
01:24:50,260 --> 01:24:51,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thank you

2059
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:51,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: anyway

2060
01:24:51,900 --> 01:24:54,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just to continue

2061
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:56,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro we need to

2062
01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:57,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: strengthen the

2063
01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:58,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cyber

2064
01:24:58,580 --> 01:25:01,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cyber unit

2065
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung anti-cyber crime

2066
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:04,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cyber fraud

2067
01:25:04,540 --> 01:25:05,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cyber libel units

2068
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:06,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of all departments

2069
01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:07,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: lalo na PNP

2070
01:25:07,740 --> 01:25:08,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and of course NBI

2071
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: considering that

2072
01:25:10,340 --> 01:25:11,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in this

2073
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: day and modern age

2074
01:25:12,180 --> 01:25:12,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it's

2075
01:25:12,540 --> 01:25:13,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sabi ko

2076
01:25:13,380 --> 01:25:14,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: clear and present

2077
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: danger na ito lahat eh

2078
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:16,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: halos lahat

2079
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:17,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: fraud

2080
01:25:17,180 --> 01:25:19,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: online na

2081
01:25:19,420 --> 01:25:19,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: no

2082
01:25:19,700 --> 01:25:21,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and kaya yung sinabi

2083
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:22,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng ating pong chairman

2084
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung what happens

2085
01:25:24,940 --> 01:25:26,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang problema nun

2086
01:25:26,220 --> 01:25:26,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sometimes

2087
01:25:26,660 --> 01:25:27,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: they're already

2088
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:28,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: itong too much freedom

2089
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:29,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: also

2090
01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:30,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sama kayong

2091
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:31,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: meron sila nung

2092
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:32,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ganung

2093
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:34,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: luxury

2094
01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:36,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kaya lang

2095
01:25:36,420 --> 01:25:37,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sometimes it's

2096
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: boarding already

2097
01:25:38,180 --> 01:25:38,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: on

2098
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:39,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: meron si Dishon

2099
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung mga anti-government

2100
01:25:41,220 --> 01:25:41,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but

2101
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:42,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ano na eh

2102
01:25:42,580 --> 01:25:42,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dapat

2103
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it's not helping

2104
01:25:44,780 --> 01:25:46,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: our country as a whole

2105
01:25:46,260 --> 01:25:47,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I think we are also

2106
01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:48,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: victims of this

2107
01:25:48,500 --> 01:25:49,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kaming mga politiko

2108
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:50,520
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: hindi nalang

2109
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:51,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pinapansin kasi

2110
01:25:51,300 --> 01:25:52,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tabaho nalang

2111
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:52,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pero

2112
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:53,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung pa

2113
01:25:53,460 --> 01:25:54,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for example

2114
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung sinasabi

2115
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:56,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: niya

2116
01:25:56,220 --> 01:25:56,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: setor pangilina

2117
01:25:56,980 --> 01:25:58,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na merong foreign

2118
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it is possible

2119
01:25:59,500 --> 01:26:01,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: attorney Melvin

2120
01:26:01,740 --> 01:26:02,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and may director

2121
01:26:02,780 --> 01:26:04,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung foreign

2122
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:05,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: funding

2123
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:05,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is it possible

2124
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:06,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that they are funding

2125
01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:08,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: efforts

2126
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:09,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to discredit

2127
01:26:09,220 --> 01:26:10,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the government

2128
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:10,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: as

2129
01:26:10,620 --> 01:26:12,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: some of the

2130
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:12,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: personalities

2131
01:26:12,940 --> 01:26:14,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that are

2132
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:14,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: identified

2133
01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:16,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that are against

2134
01:26:16,380 --> 01:26:16,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: their government

2135
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:17,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for example

2136
01:26:17,540 --> 01:26:18,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with the issue

2137
01:26:18,180 --> 01:26:19,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of West Philippine Sea

2138
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pakinamdam ko

2139
01:26:20,220 --> 01:26:21,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: marami rito sa mga

2140
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:23,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: trolls at warriors

2141
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ay funded by China

2142
01:26:24,580 --> 01:26:25,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and the same time

2143
01:26:25,460 --> 01:26:25,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of course

2144
01:26:25,940 --> 01:26:27,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: opposition

2145
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:28,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung nasa

2146
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: iba-ibang ano rin

2147
01:26:29,460 --> 01:26:30,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa politika

2148
01:26:30,020 --> 01:26:30,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but

2149
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:31,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is it possible

2150
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:32,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that they are

2151
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:33,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: funding this

2152
01:26:33,820 --> 01:26:36,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and can we monitor

2153
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:36,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that

2154
01:26:36,740 --> 01:26:37,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: indeed

2155
01:26:37,740 --> 01:26:38,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: an external

2156
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:38,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or a

2157
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:39,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: foreign

2158
01:26:39,660 --> 01:26:42,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: funding

2159
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:42,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is being

2160
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: used

2161
01:26:44,340 --> 01:26:45,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to fund

2162
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: itong mga

2163
01:26:46,060 --> 01:26:47,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for social

2164
01:26:47,780 --> 01:26:48,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: media activities

2165
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: well

2166
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:50,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: thank you po

2167
01:26:50,620 --> 01:26:52,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Mr. Chair

2168
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we have

2169
01:26:53,580 --> 01:26:53,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: strong

2170
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:54,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: indication

2171
01:26:54,660 --> 01:26:55,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that our

2172
01:26:55,500 --> 01:26:56,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: information

2173
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:56,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: manipulation

2174
01:26:56,820 --> 01:26:57,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and interference

2175
01:26:57,620 --> 01:26:58,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: by

2176
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: foreign entities

2177
01:27:00,780 --> 01:27:01,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: not necessarily

2178
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the government

2179
01:27:03,380 --> 01:27:03,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: but

2180
01:27:03,820 --> 01:27:06,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there is

2181
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: an effort

2182
01:27:07,180 --> 01:27:08,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to do that

2183
01:27:08,580 --> 01:27:08,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because

2184
01:27:08,940 --> 01:27:11,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pag tinusundan po namin

2185
01:27:11,660 --> 01:27:12,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nakikita namin

2186
01:27:12,580 --> 01:27:13,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: papunta rin sa

2187
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: direction na yon

2188
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: at hindi na lang po yon

2189
01:27:16,580 --> 01:27:18,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: let's not say na

2190
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: foreign government

2191
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:19,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: or

2192
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: foreign sovereign

2193
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:22,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there are

2194
01:27:22,700 --> 01:27:23,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: organized crimes

2195
01:27:23,620 --> 01:27:24,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: related

2196
01:27:24,340 --> 01:27:24,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: transnational

2197
01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:26,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: foreign po

2198
01:27:26,820 --> 01:27:28,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na talagang

2199
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:28,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: openly

2200
01:27:28,740 --> 01:27:29,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ginagawa po to

2201
01:27:29,660 --> 01:27:30,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa

2202
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hindi na po yung

2203
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:33,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: paninira sa gobyerno

2204
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:33,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: but

2205
01:27:33,460 --> 01:27:34,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung

2206
01:27:34,500 --> 01:27:35,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: cyber scam

2207
01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:36,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung po mga ginagawa

2208
01:27:36,940 --> 01:27:37,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that is

2209
01:27:37,980 --> 01:27:38,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: directly affect

2210
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:39,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and impact

2211
01:27:39,700 --> 01:27:40,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the economics

2212
01:27:40,740 --> 01:27:41,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of the government

2213
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:42,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and even politically

2214
01:27:42,440 --> 01:27:43,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: will affect that

2215
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:44,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I mentioned earlier

2216
01:27:44,460 --> 01:27:45,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that the

2217
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:45,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: election

2218
01:27:45,940 --> 01:27:47,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 2028 is coming

2219
01:27:47,740 --> 01:27:48,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there can be

2220
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:49,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: conditioning

2221
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: being used

2222
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:50,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the platform

2223
01:27:50,980 --> 01:27:52,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na funded by

2224
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:53,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: a foreign entity

2225
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:54,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: not necessarily

2226
01:27:54,500 --> 01:27:55,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: again the foreign

2227
01:27:55,340 --> 01:27:55,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sovereign

2228
01:27:55,500 --> 01:27:56,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pero

2229
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:57,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there are strong

2230
01:27:57,140 --> 01:27:57,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: indications

2231
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:58,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and

2232
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yan po siguro

2233
01:28:00,340 --> 01:28:01,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: if I may share

2234
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:02,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yesterday

2235
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mula Monday

2236
01:28:03,380 --> 01:28:04,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hanggang po nung

2237
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:05,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yesterday

2238
01:28:05,540 --> 01:28:06,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I was attending

2239
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:07,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the

2240
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: transnational

2241
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: convention

2242
01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:10,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sponsored by

2243
01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:13,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Homeland Security

2244
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: at tayo lang po

2245
01:28:14,220 --> 01:28:14,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung nandon

2246
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: it's the effort

2247
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng Homeland Security

2248
01:28:17,480 --> 01:28:18,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng US

2249
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:19,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: by the

2250
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:19,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: NBI

2251
01:28:19,620 --> 01:28:20,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: together with

2252
01:28:20,820 --> 01:28:21,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: some agents

2253
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:22,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: from immigration

2254
01:28:22,780 --> 01:28:24,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we are

2255
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: in the direction

2256
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:25,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of

2257
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:26,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: putting up

2258
01:28:26,260 --> 01:28:26,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: a trans

2259
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:28,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: national crime

2260
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:29,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: investigation unit

2261
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and we will

2262
01:28:31,060 --> 01:28:31,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there will be

2263
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:32,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: helping us

2264
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:32,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: okay lang po

2265
01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:33,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung may foreign

2266
01:28:33,300 --> 01:28:33,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: intervention

2267
01:28:33,940 --> 01:28:34,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na tumutulong

2268
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:35,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa atin eh

2269
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung hindi

2270
01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:36,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nakakasama

2271
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:37,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to fight

2272
01:28:37,900 --> 01:28:39,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ang target po nito

2273
01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:39,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: is to fight

2274
01:28:39,660 --> 01:28:40,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung mga syndicate

2275
01:28:40,540 --> 01:28:40,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nga

2276
01:28:40,740 --> 01:28:41,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: organized crimes

2277
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:42,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng iba't ibang

2278
01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:42,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: bansa

2279
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: meron po kasing

2280
01:28:44,660 --> 01:28:45,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga target sila

2281
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:46,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that they will

2282
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:46,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: recruit Filipino

2283
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: bring it to the

2284
01:28:48,140 --> 01:28:48,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: golden triangle

2285
01:28:48,980 --> 01:28:50,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pass through Bangkok

2286
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:51,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: eto po yung mga

2287
01:28:51,460 --> 01:28:52,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: address natin

2288
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:53,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and this group

2289
01:28:53,540 --> 01:28:55,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pag tinitingnan po

2290
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:55,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: they're not

2291
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:55,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: they're the one

2292
01:28:55,580 --> 01:28:56,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: funding also

2293
01:28:56,440 --> 01:28:57,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung ano po yung

2294
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:58,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pwedeng maging mga gulo

2295
01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:59,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dun sa bansa na

2296
01:28:59,620 --> 01:29:01,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tinatarget po nila

2297
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:02,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so yung pong

2298
01:29:02,780 --> 01:29:03,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sabakal namin na

2299
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:04,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ni Ray

2300
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:05,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there's an indication

2301
01:29:05,500 --> 01:29:06,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that is a foreign

2302
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: intervention

2303
01:29:07,780 --> 01:29:08,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: marami po

2304
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:09,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: well yung

2305
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: marami

2306
01:29:10,540 --> 01:29:12,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: alam ng

2307
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: DA yan

2308
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at ng BOC

2309
01:29:15,860 --> 01:29:16,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung agriculture

2310
01:29:16,780 --> 01:29:17,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: smuggling

2311
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:18,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat ng

2312
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:19,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kumpanya na

2313
01:29:19,580 --> 01:29:21,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na may

2314
01:29:21,060 --> 01:29:21,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron

2315
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:22,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: foreign companies

2316
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:23,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na exporter

2317
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:24,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: puro China eh

2318
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:25,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Fujian

2319
01:29:25,940 --> 01:29:27,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos ang sistema

2320
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:28,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bibilhin doon

2321
01:29:28,740 --> 01:29:29,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sindikato

2322
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bibilhin

2323
01:29:31,380 --> 01:29:33,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng salvage value

2324
01:29:33,540 --> 01:29:34,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ibig sabihin patapon na

2325
01:29:34,900 --> 01:29:36,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

2326
01:29:36,540 --> 01:29:38,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: shelf life niya

2327
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:38,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: paso na

2328
01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:39,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: diba

2329
01:29:39,540 --> 01:29:41,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: unfit na for human consumption

2330
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bibilhin doon

2331
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dadalhin dito

2332
01:29:44,140 --> 01:29:45,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Chinese company

2333
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mekasabot dito

2334
01:29:47,220 --> 01:29:48,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos

2335
01:29:48,380 --> 01:29:50,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dadalhin sa

2336
01:29:50,740 --> 01:29:51,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: warehouse

2337
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:53,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: huhugasan ng formalin

2338
01:29:53,940 --> 01:29:54,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung manok

2339
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:54,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos

2340
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:56,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: inalabas at dadalhin

2341
01:29:56,460 --> 01:29:57,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa mga palengke

2342
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yan lang po yung

2343
01:29:59,320 --> 01:29:59,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kahuhuli namin

2344
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the other day,

2345
01:30:01,780 --> 01:30:03,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: salt-based na po yung manok,

2346
01:30:03,140 --> 01:30:03,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kinugasan,

2347
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:04,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nahuli po namin.

2348
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:05,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes,

2349
01:30:05,140 --> 01:30:07,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tapos binibenta ng 120 daw,

2350
01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:07,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: peso sa kilo.

2351
01:30:07,740 --> 01:30:08,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Tama po,

2352
01:30:08,380 --> 01:30:08,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tama po.

2353
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:10,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Sindikatong kamatang...

2354
01:30:10,380 --> 01:30:12,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Sa Facebook pa po ginagamit,

2355
01:30:12,620 --> 01:30:14,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa social media pa po yung transaction,

2356
01:30:14,620 --> 01:30:14,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Senator.

2357
01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:17,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, talagang matindi,

2358
01:30:17,480 --> 01:30:19,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: matindi ang kalaban,

2359
01:30:19,260 --> 01:30:19,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ikaw nga,

2360
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na kailangan talagang natin

2361
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: supportahan yung ating law enforcement

2362
01:30:23,060 --> 01:30:25,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and ating justice system.

2363
01:30:26,140 --> 01:30:26,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Sir.

2364
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:27,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just to continue,

2365
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kanina nabanggit nyo,

2366
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Director Matibag,

2367
01:30:30,420 --> 01:30:31,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung inyo pong operation,

2368
01:30:32,140 --> 01:30:34,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 100 to 200,

2369
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:36,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang operation nyo.

2370
01:30:38,500 --> 01:30:39,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ito yung mga confidential,

2371
01:30:40,460 --> 01:30:41,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: investigative.

2372
01:30:41,900 --> 01:30:43,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Magkano po yung...

2373
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:44,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ano nyan?

2374
01:30:44,740 --> 01:30:45,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Estimate,

2375
01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:46,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: not the expense,

2376
01:30:46,620 --> 01:30:47,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just to give us an idea.

2377
01:30:47,980 --> 01:30:48,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi nga,

2378
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: your confidential fund

2379
01:30:52,180 --> 01:30:54,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: was slashed considerably

2380
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: compared for 2027.

2381
01:30:56,980 --> 01:30:57,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, nabanggit nyo,

2382
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:58,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: grabe pala,

2383
01:30:58,480 --> 01:30:58,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 200.

2384
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 100 to 200 operations monthly.

2385
01:31:02,060 --> 01:31:02,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige po.

2386
01:31:03,580 --> 01:31:05,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I-advise na lang po natin,

2387
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:05,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Mr. Chair,

2388
01:31:05,780 --> 01:31:07,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa 200,000 per operation.

2389
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasi kasama po dyan yung transportation,

2390
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:10,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung hotel,

2391
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: saka po yung sa information doon.

2392
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:14,300
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Sa mga ano po natin,

2393
01:31:14,460 --> 01:31:15,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: assets natin,

2394
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:16,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung mga intelligence report po,

2395
01:31:17,420 --> 01:31:18,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa average na lang po na 200.

2396
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:19,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kung 200,

2397
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tapos 200 operations din lang po,

2398
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:24,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that is already about 40 million.

2399
01:31:25,180 --> 01:31:25,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Aman po.

2400
01:31:25,820 --> 01:31:27,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And yung pong binigay sa amin na 300

2401
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:28,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: last year,

2402
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hinati po namin yun

2403
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa 25 million per month.

2404
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:33,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, doon pa lang po,

2405
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:34,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: makita na rin nyo yung difference.

2406
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:36,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, ginagawa ko na lang po dyan,

2407
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung co-plan po na ginagamit,

2408
01:31:39,460 --> 01:31:40,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: instead minsan mag-aero plano,

2409
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:41,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mag-barco na lang kayo.

2410
01:31:42,260 --> 01:31:42,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: O,

2411
01:31:42,660 --> 01:31:44,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung instead na titira kayo,

2412
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:46,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dito sa ganitong lugar,

2413
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:46,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ganito na lang,

2414
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:47,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mas malapit din.

2415
01:31:48,380 --> 01:31:50,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Instead na we will send 20 operatives,

2416
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:52,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kalahati na lang po yung ipapadala namin.

2417
01:31:52,820 --> 01:31:54,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Ganun po yung pinagtatama namin.

2418
01:31:55,140 --> 01:31:56,080
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And I have to admit,

2419
01:31:56,180 --> 01:31:58,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: meron pong mga halimbawa,

2420
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:58,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: like yun nga,

2421
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: like Philip Morris will help us,

2422
01:32:01,620 --> 01:32:03,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hindi naman po directly magbigay,

2423
01:32:03,380 --> 01:32:04,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kundi they will provide

2424
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:05,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: for food provisions.

2425
01:32:06,460 --> 01:32:08,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I'd like to commend also PCSO and PagCorp

2426
01:32:08,820 --> 01:32:11,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that when it comes doon po sa scam,

2427
01:32:11,740 --> 01:32:13,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: especially yung mga illegal operations

2428
01:32:13,660 --> 01:32:15,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pa ng Pogo at illegal gambling,

2429
01:32:15,860 --> 01:32:17,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: they're also helping us.

2430
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:17,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And of course,

2431
01:32:17,780 --> 01:32:18,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: DOJ po,

2432
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: doon po sa binibigay sa kanila na

2433
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:21,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: confidential funds,

2434
01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:23,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: si Secretary will also share.

2435
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:24,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Pag sinabi ko,

2436
01:32:24,580 --> 01:32:26,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Sek, meron kaming operations pa na ganito,

2437
01:32:26,260 --> 01:32:27,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: medyo kulang,

2438
01:32:28,140 --> 01:32:28,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: eh,

2439
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:29,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nakakapag-magic naman po

2440
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:31,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: si Secretary Vida,

2441
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:32,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tinutulungan po kami.

2442
01:32:33,220 --> 01:32:33,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Sa,

2443
01:32:33,540 --> 01:32:34,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa ano naman po,

2444
01:32:34,660 --> 01:32:35,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sa immigration,

2445
01:32:35,700 --> 01:32:37,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pag yung may punitive kaming

2446
01:32:37,460 --> 01:32:38,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hulihin,

2447
01:32:39,140 --> 01:32:39,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tulong na lang po,

2448
01:32:40,180 --> 01:32:41,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: hati na lang po sa manpower

2449
01:32:41,580 --> 01:32:42,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung ginagawa po namin.

2450
01:32:42,860 --> 01:32:43,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So,

2451
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:44,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pinagtatama na po,

2452
01:32:44,780 --> 01:32:45,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I'm just fortunate

2453
01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:46,540
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and I have to commend lang

2454
01:32:46,540 --> 01:32:47,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the men and women of the

2455
01:32:47,620 --> 01:32:48,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: National Bureau of Investigation

2456
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:49,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that,

2457
01:32:49,860 --> 01:32:51,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kahit na po ganun eh,

2458
01:32:51,060 --> 01:32:51,500
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: professional,

2459
01:32:52,180 --> 01:32:53,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na ginagawa po yung trabaho nila.

2460
01:32:54,180 --> 01:32:55,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If I may add?

2461
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:55,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes,

2462
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:56,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa Secretary Vida.

2463
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:58,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We're at a height,

2464
01:32:58,800 --> 01:32:58,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po,

2465
01:32:59,000 --> 01:32:59,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung inter,

2466
01:33:00,060 --> 01:33:01,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung engagement namin,

2467
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:01,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: BI,

2468
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:03,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the NBI,

2469
01:33:03,260 --> 01:33:04,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and the DOJ,

2470
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:05,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for

2471
01:33:05,060 --> 01:33:07,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: several decades now,

2472
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: wala po tayong nakakasuhan

2473
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa agricultural smuggling.

2474
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:11,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo,

2475
01:33:12,140 --> 01:33:13,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ngayon lang po tayo nagsimula.

2476
01:33:13,900 --> 01:33:15,560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Totoo po yung data natin,

2477
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na 45 yung cases na nirefer,

2478
01:33:18,340 --> 01:33:19,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 35 binalik namin

2479
01:33:19,660 --> 01:33:20,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for case build-up.

2480
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:21,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero,

2481
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that's already a positive sign.

2482
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:23,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We've,

2483
01:33:23,740 --> 01:33:25,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we've gone a long way po

2484
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:25,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on this.

2485
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:26,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And,

2486
01:33:26,860 --> 01:33:28,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa reports po na naririnig namin,

2487
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:29,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from,

2488
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:30,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from the DOF,

2489
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:31,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it's also triggering

2490
01:33:31,780 --> 01:33:32,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: a parallel

2491
01:33:32,500 --> 01:33:34,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or a correlated increase

2492
01:33:34,300 --> 01:33:37,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in excise taxes payments.

2493
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:38,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May,

2494
01:33:38,060 --> 01:33:38,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may effect po.

2495
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:39,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I,

2496
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:40,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I don't have the data,

2497
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:40,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: but,

2498
01:33:40,540 --> 01:33:41,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: but I've heard that

2499
01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:42,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from the DOF po,

2500
01:33:43,260 --> 01:33:44,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na meron po talagang effect po.

2501
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: When we push for all these

2502
01:33:46,420 --> 01:33:47,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: operations,

2503
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:48,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung smuggling,

2504
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung collections sila ng taxes,

2505
01:33:50,860 --> 01:33:51,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: gumaganda rin po.

2506
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:52,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And hopefully,

2507
01:33:52,820 --> 01:33:52,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we,

2508
01:33:53,020 --> 01:33:54,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we go into that.

2509
01:33:54,540 --> 01:33:55,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That no one is above the law,

2510
01:33:56,020 --> 01:33:57,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that everyone follows the law.

2511
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:58,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung kailangan magbayad ng taxes,

2512
01:33:58,800 --> 01:33:59,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: magbayad ng taxes.

2513
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: With the permission of Senator JV,

2514
01:34:02,540 --> 01:34:03,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will confirm that.

2515
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:04,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because sa BOC,

2516
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:05,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: itong year na ito,

2517
01:34:06,020 --> 01:34:07,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang taas nung bayad ng taripa

2518
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa karneng baboy.

2519
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:10,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi talagang,

2520
01:34:11,380 --> 01:34:12,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: last year,

2521
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pinupukpuk namin talaga yung

2522
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:16,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: usapin ng

2523
01:34:16,500 --> 01:34:18,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agri-smuggling.

2524
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:19,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So yun,

2525
01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:20,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as you say,

2526
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: natakot gumawa ng kalukuhan,

2527
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:24,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbayad,

2528
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nire-report ngayon yung

2529
01:34:26,460 --> 01:34:27,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung tamang buis,

2530
01:34:27,580 --> 01:34:28,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung tamang,

2531
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:29,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung tamang volume

2532
01:34:29,300 --> 01:34:31,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at nagbabayad ng tamang buis.

2533
01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:31,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think,

2534
01:34:32,180 --> 01:34:34,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: parang five-fold increase

2535
01:34:34,820 --> 01:34:36,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa collections ng taripa

2536
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa karneng imported

2537
01:34:40,300 --> 01:34:42,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil nga dun sa

2538
01:34:42,420 --> 01:34:44,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: takot na

2539
01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:45,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: baka makumpis ka

2540
01:34:45,940 --> 01:34:46,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil hindi nagbabayad

2541
01:34:46,940 --> 01:34:47,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng tamang buis.

2542
01:34:48,940 --> 01:34:49,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes?

2543
01:34:49,380 --> 01:34:49,820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes, sir?

2544
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:51,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I would like to

2545
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:52,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: jump in and add

2546
01:34:52,740 --> 01:34:53,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: doon po kay Mr. Chair,

2547
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kay Secretary Bidang sinabi.

2548
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:56,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: In fact,

2549
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:57,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ang Philip Morris po,

2550
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:58,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we're very thankful

2551
01:34:58,260 --> 01:34:58,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na Tumas,

2552
01:34:58,800 --> 01:34:59,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: natin po yung

2553
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:00,720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung kanilang sales

2554
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:01,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: after po natin

2555
01:35:01,580 --> 01:35:02,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung mga huli.

2556
01:35:02,740 --> 01:35:04,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And I have instruction

2557
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:05,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po doon sa nahuli

2558
01:35:05,780 --> 01:35:06,380
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dito sa field.

2559
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:07,660
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We are not filing cases

2560
01:35:07,660 --> 01:35:08,480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: doon po sa nahuli

2561
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:09,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na driver at pahinante.

2562
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:11,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We are filing a case po

2563
01:35:11,260 --> 01:35:12,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: doon po sa operator

2564
01:35:12,140 --> 01:35:13,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nung port na

2565
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:13,860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pinagdaanan po

2566
01:35:13,860 --> 01:35:14,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: a private port.

2567
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:15,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So,

2568
01:35:15,700 --> 01:35:16,600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: on the process po

2569
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:17,440
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung pagpapile niyan.

2570
01:35:17,660 --> 01:35:18,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung may-ari

2571
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:18,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nung port?

2572
01:35:19,060 --> 01:35:20,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung may-ari po

2573
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:20,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nung port mismo,

2574
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:21,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung buong

2575
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,420
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nasa GIS po

2576
01:35:23,420 --> 01:35:24,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng SEC,

2577
01:35:24,540 --> 01:35:25,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I have instruction

2578
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:26,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to file cases

2579
01:35:26,100 --> 01:35:26,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: against them

2580
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:27,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dahil

2581
01:35:27,020 --> 01:35:28,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: possibly naman po

2582
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:28,760
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: dumating doon

2583
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:29,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung goods

2584
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:30,640
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng walang kamalayan

2585
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:31,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po saan nila.

2586
01:35:31,260 --> 01:35:31,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Sige,

2587
01:35:31,500 --> 01:35:32,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we will follow,

2588
01:35:32,300 --> 01:35:33,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we will monitor.

2589
01:35:33,580 --> 01:35:33,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes po.

2590
01:35:34,020 --> 01:35:34,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Director.

2591
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:35,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir.

2592
01:35:36,220 --> 01:35:36,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay,

2593
01:35:36,580 --> 01:35:37,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tungkol din nyo.

2594
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:40,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mabuti na rin

2595
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:41,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pinasok yung smuggling

2596
01:35:41,220 --> 01:35:42,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng sigaret.

2597
01:35:42,380 --> 01:35:42,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So,

2598
01:35:42,660 --> 01:35:43,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: director,

2599
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:44,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi ano yan,

2600
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:45,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it's a very big industry

2601
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:46,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung manufacturing

2602
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:46,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and sale of

2603
01:35:46,900 --> 01:35:48,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: fake cigarette

2604
01:35:48,540 --> 01:35:49,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and yung smuggling.

2605
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:50,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: No?

2606
01:35:51,580 --> 01:35:51,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Alam kong

2607
01:35:51,980 --> 01:35:53,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nagbibigay pa

2608
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:54,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng protection money

2609
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:55,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: parang 5 million

2610
01:35:55,580 --> 01:35:56,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a month,

2611
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:56,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: no?

2612
01:35:56,440 --> 01:35:56,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa ibang

2613
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,500
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a month.

2614
01:35:58,760 --> 01:35:59,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang binibigay,

2615
01:35:59,400 --> 01:35:59,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ibig sabihin,

2616
01:35:59,820 --> 01:36:00,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: malaking negosyo.

2617
01:36:00,700 --> 01:36:00,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So,

2618
01:36:00,860 --> 01:36:01,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: malaking bagay na

2619
01:36:01,820 --> 01:36:04,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: masabat

2620
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:04,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para nang sa ganun

2621
01:36:04,860 --> 01:36:05,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pumasok sa gobyerno

2622
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:06,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: maging legal na,

2623
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:07,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: no?

2624
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:08,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway,

2625
01:36:08,180 --> 01:36:08,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just to continue,

2626
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:10,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: si Ekbida,

2627
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:10,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sige,

2628
01:36:11,480 --> 01:36:12,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nagsabi rin si

2629
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:13,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Senator,

2630
01:36:13,420 --> 01:36:13,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: former

2631
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:15,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: President Dito Soto

2632
01:36:15,020 --> 01:36:15,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that he

2633
01:36:15,580 --> 01:36:16,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: would

2634
01:36:16,740 --> 01:36:17,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: support

2635
01:36:17,940 --> 01:36:19,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: increase in the budget

2636
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:19,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of the

2637
01:36:19,820 --> 01:36:21,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: confidential funds

2638
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to improve

2639
01:36:23,300 --> 01:36:23,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the investigation

2640
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of cases

2641
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:27,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of NBI

2642
01:36:27,020 --> 01:36:27,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and DOJ,

2643
01:36:27,860 --> 01:36:27,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: no?

2644
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:28,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So,

2645
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:28,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro,

2646
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:29,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: si Ekbida,

2647
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro,

2648
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:33,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: what we have to

2649
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:34,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: look for funding

2650
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is anti-cybercrime

2651
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:37,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: confidential fund

2652
01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:37,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: also,

2653
01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:38,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: considering that

2654
01:36:38,420 --> 01:36:39,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a lot of cases

2655
01:36:39,860 --> 01:36:40,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: now,

2656
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:41,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cybercrime,

2657
01:36:41,980 --> 01:36:42,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cyberfraud,

2658
01:36:42,540 --> 01:36:43,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cyberlibel,

2659
01:36:43,860 --> 01:36:45,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: very prevalent

2660
01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:45,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: now.

2661
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:45,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So,

2662
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 475,000

2663
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:48,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: as pointed out

2664
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:48,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: by

2665
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:49,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Senator Lacson,

2666
01:36:49,860 --> 01:36:50,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: saan tayo

2667
01:36:50,220 --> 01:36:50,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: abutin ito,

2668
01:36:51,020 --> 01:36:51,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: no?

2669
01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:52,220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sige po.

2670
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:54,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: A discussion

2671
01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:55,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of that 475,000.

2672
01:36:55,700 --> 01:36:56,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi po,

2673
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:57,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung mandate po

2674
01:36:57,440 --> 01:36:58,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng Office of the Cybercrime

2675
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the DOJ

2676
01:37:00,100 --> 01:37:01,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: has already

2677
01:37:01,060 --> 01:37:02,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: also scaled down

2678
01:37:02,300 --> 01:37:03,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the creation

2679
01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:04,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the CICC

2680
01:37:04,780 --> 01:37:05,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and also

2681
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:06,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the ICT.

2682
01:37:06,820 --> 01:37:07,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's why

2683
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:08,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we don't want to ask

2684
01:37:08,580 --> 01:37:09,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: what we

2685
01:37:09,260 --> 01:37:10,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: don't need.

2686
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:11,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya lang yun lang po.

2687
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:12,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi limited na rin po

2688
01:37:12,940 --> 01:37:13,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung operations

2689
01:37:13,660 --> 01:37:14,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng aming

2690
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:14,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Office of the Cybercrime.

2691
01:37:14,860 --> 01:37:15,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ah, so CICC na.

2692
01:37:15,900 --> 01:37:17,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang malaki na po ngayon

2693
01:37:17,060 --> 01:37:18,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is yung sa law enforcement

2694
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: which is the NBI's

2695
01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:24,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: more on TWGs,

2696
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:25,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: more on other aspects po.

2697
01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:26,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Which,

2698
01:37:27,260 --> 01:37:28,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I think

2699
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:29,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the DOJ will always

2700
01:37:29,480 --> 01:37:30,220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: be consistent.

2701
01:37:30,980 --> 01:37:32,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pag hindi po namin

2702
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:33,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kailangan ng

2703
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:34,220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: confidential fund,

2704
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:35,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we will not ask for it.

2705
01:37:35,780 --> 01:37:36,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung ano lang po

2706
01:37:36,440 --> 01:37:37,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung kailangan.

2707
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:38,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because we also would like

2708
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:38,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to subscribe

2709
01:37:38,940 --> 01:37:40,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in the regular

2710
01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:41,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: procurement process,

2711
01:37:41,300 --> 01:37:41,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in the regular

2712
01:37:41,940 --> 01:37:43,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: liquidation of funds.

2713
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:45,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We owe it to the public,

2714
01:37:45,540 --> 01:37:45,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honors.

2715
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:48,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And also,

2716
01:37:48,500 --> 01:37:49,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'd like to thank you,

2717
01:37:49,500 --> 01:37:49,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: no?

2718
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:51,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung aside from

2719
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:52,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Senator Pangilinan,

2720
01:37:52,180 --> 01:37:52,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: who's of course

2721
01:37:52,780 --> 01:37:53,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: definitely talagang

2722
01:37:53,860 --> 01:37:54,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: advocacy

2723
01:37:54,660 --> 01:37:55,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa agriculture.

2724
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:56,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Maraming salamat

2725
01:37:56,940 --> 01:37:57,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na DOJ

2726
01:37:58,120 --> 01:37:59,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is now taking a lead role

2727
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in the anti-agricultural

2728
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:03,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: smuggling,

2729
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: economic sabotage efforts.

2730
01:38:05,420 --> 01:38:06,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Malaking bagay.

2731
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:07,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I just want to

2732
01:38:07,660 --> 01:38:08,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: air my frustration

2733
01:38:08,700 --> 01:38:09,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because I think

2734
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:10,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with this law

2735
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:11,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: was pasyo una,

2736
01:38:11,380 --> 01:38:12,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung anti-agricultural

2737
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:12,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: smuggling.

2738
01:38:13,340 --> 01:38:14,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I was the principal

2739
01:38:14,580 --> 01:38:15,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: author in 2016.

2740
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:17,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Hanggang na

2741
01:38:17,780 --> 01:38:18,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: amen po yan,

2742
01:38:18,780 --> 01:38:19,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: wala hong nahuli

2743
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang BOC noon.

2744
01:38:21,780 --> 01:38:22,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That time.

2745
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:23,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Parang walang

2746
01:38:23,620 --> 01:38:24,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: big fish.

2747
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yun yung frustration

2748
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:26,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: namin.

2749
01:38:26,500 --> 01:38:27,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kahit minsan,

2750
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: walang nahuling

2751
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: smuggler,

2752
01:38:29,940 --> 01:38:30,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 10 million lang

2753
01:38:30,740 --> 01:38:34,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang threshold.

2754
01:38:34,860 --> 01:38:35,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So now,

2755
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:37,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung mga nabanggit nyo po

2756
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:38,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na medyo marami

2757
01:38:38,220 --> 01:38:39,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na hong makakasuhan,

2758
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:40,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that will definitely

2759
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:40,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: help

2760
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: increase the income

2761
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:44,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to,

2762
01:38:45,380 --> 01:38:45,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of course,

2763
01:38:46,020 --> 01:38:46,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa ating pong

2764
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: BOC

2765
01:38:48,180 --> 01:38:49,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and other agencies.

2766
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:50,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And more than

2767
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:51,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: importantly,

2768
01:38:51,480 --> 01:38:51,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it will

2769
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: protect our farmers.

2770
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:54,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi pagpapasok po

2771
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:55,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang smuggled,

2772
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:56,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na mga

2773
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:57,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na mga

2774
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: agriculture products,

2775
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:01,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it deprives

2776
01:39:01,980 --> 01:39:03,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: our local farmers

2777
01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:04,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of income.

2778
01:39:04,740 --> 01:39:05,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya nga,

2779
01:39:05,180 --> 01:39:05,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pinasanataan

2780
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:06,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng agriculture

2781
01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:07,440
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: smuggling law.

2782
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:08,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And eventually,

2783
01:39:09,060 --> 01:39:10,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nag-evolve naman sila.

2784
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:10,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: No?

2785
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:12,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Naging left and right

2786
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:13,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: naman ng issuance

2787
01:39:13,620 --> 01:39:13,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng

2788
01:39:13,900 --> 01:39:16,040
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: import permit.

2789
01:39:16,140 --> 01:39:16,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So,

2790
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:17,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nag-evolve.

2791
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:17,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya nga,

2792
01:39:17,420 --> 01:39:18,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: anti-agriculture

2793
01:39:18,340 --> 01:39:19,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: economic sabotage na.

2794
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:20,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, sana sa cartel,

2795
01:39:21,260 --> 01:39:22,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: profiteering,

2796
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:22,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and hoarding.

2797
01:39:23,020 --> 01:39:23,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Alam ko,

2798
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:24,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: BOC,

2799
01:39:24,220 --> 01:39:24,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ano yan,

2800
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:24,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dapat.

2801
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:25,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But,

2802
01:39:26,180 --> 01:39:26,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I think,

2803
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:27,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung anti-agriculture,

2804
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or economic sabotage

2805
01:39:29,300 --> 01:39:29,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: council,

2806
01:39:30,460 --> 01:39:31,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: can help a lot.

2807
01:39:32,380 --> 01:39:32,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ano yan?

2808
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:33,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Masyadong,

2809
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:34,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that's very close

2810
01:39:34,780 --> 01:39:35,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to the heart of our

2811
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:36,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: chairman,

2812
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:37,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Central Pangilinan,

2813
01:39:37,900 --> 01:39:38,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa agriculture.

2814
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:39,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And also to me,

2815
01:39:39,820 --> 01:39:40,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi ako po

2816
01:39:40,460 --> 01:39:41,020
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang nag-author

2817
01:39:41,020 --> 01:39:42,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng dalawang batas na to,

2818
01:39:42,340 --> 01:39:43,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: even the amendment.

2819
01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:44,780
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I would like it

2820
01:39:44,780 --> 01:39:45,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to be

2821
01:39:45,980 --> 01:39:47,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: effective,

2822
01:39:47,820 --> 01:39:48,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi sayang naman

2823
01:39:48,700 --> 01:39:49,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na pinapasa natin.

2824
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:50,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tapos,

2825
01:39:50,420 --> 01:39:51,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: wala rin mang nauhuli.

2826
01:39:51,700 --> 01:39:51,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba?

2827
01:39:52,060 --> 01:39:52,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So,

2828
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:53,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that's a good development.

2829
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:54,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you,

2830
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:54,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Secretary Vida,

2831
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:55,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for mentioning that

2832
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the DOJ is very much

2833
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:57,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: active,

2834
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:57,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: now,

2835
01:39:58,400 --> 01:39:59,400
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa anti-agriculture

2836
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:00,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: economic sabotage council.

2837
01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:02,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission,

2838
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:03,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may I ask

2839
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:04,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: PG Dong

2840
01:40:04,860 --> 01:40:05,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to give the

2841
01:40:05,740 --> 01:40:06,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para on

2842
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that it's on the record

2843
01:40:08,300 --> 01:40:09,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on this

2844
01:40:09,260 --> 01:40:11,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: agricultural

2845
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:12,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: economic sabotage law,

2846
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:13,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the performance

2847
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:14,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we have done so far.

2848
01:40:15,380 --> 01:40:15,600
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes,

2849
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:16,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: PG Fadullon.

2850
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:17,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: With the permission

2851
01:40:17,860 --> 01:40:18,580
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the Secretary,

2852
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:19,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Mr. Chairman,

2853
01:40:19,740 --> 01:40:20,640
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Honorable Senators,

2854
01:40:21,460 --> 01:40:22,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: with the advent

2855
01:40:22,340 --> 01:40:24,060
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of RA 12022,

2856
01:40:24,580 --> 01:40:26,320
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: this resulted

2857
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:26,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: to

2858
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:28,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: a total

2859
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:28,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of about

2860
01:40:28,860 --> 01:40:30,900
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: 58 cases,

2861
01:40:31,300 --> 01:40:32,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: complaints filed

2862
01:40:32,220 --> 01:40:32,740
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: with us.

2863
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:34,120
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There have already

2864
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:35,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: been indictments.

2865
01:40:35,820 --> 01:40:36,620
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There have been

2866
01:40:36,620 --> 01:40:37,580
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: 10 indictments

2867
01:40:37,580 --> 01:40:39,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and this values

2868
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:40,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: to something like

2869
01:40:40,420 --> 01:40:42,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: 529 million

2870
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:43,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: 640,

2871
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:44,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ah,

2872
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:45,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: 529 million

2873
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:46,940
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: 641 thousand

2874
01:40:46,940 --> 01:40:49,200
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: 506 point 80.

2875
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:50,660
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Total value

2876
01:40:50,660 --> 01:40:51,240
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the goods

2877
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:51,700
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ceased.

2878
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:52,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Most of these,

2879
01:40:52,820 --> 01:40:54,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Mr. Chairman,

2880
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:54,940
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: are cigarettes,

2881
01:40:54,940 --> 01:40:55,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: no?

2882
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:56,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: You need to make products.

2883
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:57,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: And,

2884
01:40:57,580 --> 01:40:59,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: there were

2885
01:40:59,420 --> 01:41:00,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the other cases

2886
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:01,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that were referred to us

2887
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:02,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: which were returned

2888
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:03,700
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: to the LEAS

2889
01:41:03,700 --> 01:41:04,800
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: or the enforcement groups

2890
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:05,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for the building up

2891
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:06,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of cases

2892
01:41:06,340 --> 01:41:08,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for the

2893
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for securing

2894
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:10,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the necessary evidence

2895
01:41:10,780 --> 01:41:11,660
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for the prosecution

2896
01:41:11,660 --> 01:41:12,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and investigation.

2897
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:14,180
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: The total value

2898
01:41:14,180 --> 01:41:15,460
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the goods

2899
01:41:15,460 --> 01:41:16,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ceased

2900
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,000
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: amounts to

2901
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:18,500
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: something like

2902
01:41:18,500 --> 01:41:22,900
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: 2,339,714

2903
01:41:22,900 --> 01:41:25,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and 148 pesos.

2904
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:26,840
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Sa ngayon,

2905
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:27,080
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: po,

2906
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:28,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: most of these cases

2907
01:41:28,300 --> 01:41:29,820
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: are being done

2908
01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:30,740
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: by the department

2909
01:41:30,740 --> 01:41:32,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: with the help of

2910
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:33,960
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the Philippine National Police,

2911
01:41:34,140 --> 01:41:35,800
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the National Bureau of Investigation

2912
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:36,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and the DOF.

2913
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,500
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ang isang bagay lang po

2914
01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:40,140
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sana namin

2915
01:41:40,140 --> 01:41:41,000
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na gustong ipaalam

2916
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:41,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is that

2917
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,180
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: since the implementation

2918
01:41:43,180 --> 01:41:44,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at nagsisimula po tayo

2919
01:41:44,540 --> 01:41:46,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: magkaroon ng maraming kaso

2920
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:46,920
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na banggit po

2921
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ni Director Matibag kanina

2922
01:41:48,300 --> 01:41:49,920
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na karamihan po rito

2923
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:50,960
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ay tobacco products.

2924
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:52,020
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Bakit po ganon?

2925
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:53,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Yan po yung

2926
01:41:53,300 --> 01:41:54,140
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: pinaka-prolific

2927
01:41:54,140 --> 01:41:54,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sa lahat po

2928
01:41:54,860 --> 01:41:55,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ng lugar

2929
01:41:55,300 --> 01:41:56,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na puntahan natin

2930
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:56,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: dito sa

2931
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:57,760
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Pilipinas.

2932
01:41:58,300 --> 01:41:58,760
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: In fact,

2933
01:41:59,040 --> 01:41:59,460
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: again,

2934
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,180
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it was mentioned

2935
01:42:01,180 --> 01:42:01,680
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that

2936
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,380
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: private entities

2937
01:42:03,380 --> 01:42:04,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: like Philip Morris

2938
01:42:04,220 --> 01:42:05,740
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: have engaged us

2939
01:42:05,740 --> 01:42:06,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: to help

2940
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:07,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and assist

2941
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:08,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in

2942
01:42:08,300 --> 01:42:09,380
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: capacitating

2943
01:42:09,380 --> 01:42:10,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: our prosecutors,

2944
01:42:10,700 --> 01:42:11,620
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: our law enforcement

2945
01:42:11,620 --> 01:42:13,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: all over the country

2946
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:14,700
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: just so that

2947
01:42:14,700 --> 01:42:15,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the cases

2948
01:42:15,480 --> 01:42:16,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: will not be centralized

2949
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:17,840
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sa main office po.

2950
01:42:18,700 --> 01:42:19,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: At kung halimbawang

2951
01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:20,500
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: meron pong mga huli

2952
01:42:20,500 --> 01:42:21,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sa probinsya

2953
01:42:21,480 --> 01:42:22,580
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: o sa iba-ibang

2954
01:42:22,580 --> 01:42:23,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: regions,

2955
01:42:24,140 --> 01:42:24,900
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ang coordination

2956
01:42:24,900 --> 01:42:26,080
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at ang case build-up

2957
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:26,640
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ay pwede na

2958
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:27,180
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: pong gawin

2959
01:42:27,180 --> 01:42:28,060
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: doon sa regions.

2960
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:29,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ang prosecution po

2961
01:42:29,860 --> 01:42:30,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: dito po sa Manila

2962
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,000
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: because all of these cases

2963
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:32,820
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: are being filed

2964
01:42:32,820 --> 01:42:33,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and prosecuted

2965
01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:35,060
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: before the Court of Tax Appeals.

2966
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:35,960
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So,

2967
01:42:36,340 --> 01:42:36,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: with the help

2968
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:38,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of kind-hearted

2969
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: benefactors,

2970
01:42:40,940 --> 01:42:42,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we're able to do this.

2971
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:43,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: The sad part,

2972
01:42:44,140 --> 01:42:44,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Mr. Chair,

2973
01:42:45,060 --> 01:42:45,620
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is that

2974
01:42:45,620 --> 01:42:46,960
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the budget

2975
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:48,080
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for the

2976
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:48,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: implementation

2977
01:42:48,860 --> 01:42:49,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: itong batas

2978
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:50,320
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ay hindi pa ho

2979
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:51,120
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nabababa.

2980
01:42:51,820 --> 01:42:52,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: And,

2981
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,020
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: I think this is also

2982
01:42:54,020 --> 01:42:55,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: this also has

2983
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:56,240
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: repercussions.

2984
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:58,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Over the year,

2985
01:42:58,500 --> 01:42:59,140
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we have discovered

2986
01:42:59,140 --> 01:42:59,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The Council, no?

2987
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:00,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The Council?

2988
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:00,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Yes, po.

2989
01:43:01,060 --> 01:43:01,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Wala pa po lumababa.

2990
01:43:02,620 --> 01:43:03,120
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: And,

2991
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: this has resulted in

2992
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:06,700
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: this has an impact

2993
01:43:06,700 --> 01:43:07,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: also in the implementation.

2994
01:43:08,860 --> 01:43:09,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Bakit po namin

2995
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:10,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sinasabi yun?

2996
01:43:10,480 --> 01:43:11,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Dahil sa

2997
01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:12,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: meron po tayong

2998
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:13,620
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nadidiskubre

2999
01:43:13,620 --> 01:43:14,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na

3000
01:43:14,480 --> 01:43:15,640
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in the process

3001
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:16,500
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the seizures,

3002
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:18,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nawawala po yung

3003
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:19,180
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: cigarettes,

3004
01:43:19,700 --> 01:43:20,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nawawala po yung

3005
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:21,240
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sigarilyo,

3006
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:22,240
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nawawa,

3007
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:23,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nababawasan po yung

3008
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:24,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: mga produkto

3009
01:43:24,420 --> 01:43:25,140
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na nasisis.

3010
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:26,000
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: At,

3011
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:26,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ang worst,

3012
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,260
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: may mga tao po tayo

3013
01:43:29,260 --> 01:43:30,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: who are part of

3014
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:31,440
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the enforcement group

3015
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:32,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: who become

3016
01:43:32,420 --> 01:43:33,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: prey to this

3017
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:35,740
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: para nabibiktima rin sila.

3018
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:36,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: At, sila po,

3019
01:43:36,440 --> 01:43:37,080
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: pati po sila,

3020
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:37,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: hindi na lang

3021
01:43:37,540 --> 01:43:38,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sigarilyo nawawala,

3022
01:43:38,660 --> 01:43:39,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: pati na rin po yung

3023
01:43:39,420 --> 01:43:40,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: mga humuhuli.

3024
01:43:41,060 --> 01:43:41,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: They disappear.

3025
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:42,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pinag-aawayan pa nga

3026
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: TG Pajolion,

3027
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:44,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng HPG

3028
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:45,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at BOC yan.

3029
01:43:46,020 --> 01:43:46,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Di ba,

3030
01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:46,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: fake cigarette

3031
01:43:46,980 --> 01:43:47,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pinag-aawayan nila?

3032
01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:48,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Opo, opo.

3033
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:49,240
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Totoo po yan.

3034
01:43:49,340 --> 01:43:49,740
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Sige po.

3035
01:43:49,980 --> 01:43:51,440
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So, there are instances

3036
01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:52,440
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that we feel

3037
01:43:52,440 --> 01:43:53,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the reason for this

3038
01:43:53,860 --> 01:43:54,800
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is because it's a very

3039
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,000
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: lucrative industry.

3040
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:56,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: It's very,

3041
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:57,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: very tempting

3042
01:43:57,220 --> 01:43:58,200
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: when you have

3043
01:43:58,200 --> 01:43:59,580
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: seizures na

3044
01:43:59,580 --> 01:44:00,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ang value is

3045
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:01,900
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: hundreds of millions,

3046
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:03,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sometimes billions.

3047
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:05,960
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: When law enforcement,

3048
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:06,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and we understand

3049
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,180
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: completely the predicament

3050
01:44:08,180 --> 01:44:09,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the enforcement group,

3051
01:44:09,820 --> 01:44:10,760
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: like the NBI

3052
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:11,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and the PNP,

3053
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:13,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it will be very difficult

3054
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:14,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for them to enforce

3055
01:44:14,300 --> 01:44:14,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the law

3056
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and to do operations

3057
01:44:16,780 --> 01:44:18,500
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: if they are not provided

3058
01:44:18,500 --> 01:44:19,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the necessary resources.

3059
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:21,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ang nangyayari po,

3060
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: since the implementation

3061
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:24,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the law,

3062
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:26,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nagkakanya-kanya ho eh.

3063
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:27,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: We do coordinate

3064
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:28,320
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: with each other,

3065
01:44:28,500 --> 01:44:29,260
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: but in the process

3066
01:44:29,260 --> 01:44:30,180
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of implementation,

3067
01:44:30,420 --> 01:44:31,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the added responsibility

3068
01:44:31,540 --> 01:44:32,500
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: being given

3069
01:44:32,500 --> 01:44:33,840
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: to our enforcement group,

3070
01:44:34,380 --> 01:44:35,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: they will have to shell out

3071
01:44:35,980 --> 01:44:37,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the resources needed

3072
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:38,960
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for the operations.

3073
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:40,640
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: And I think

3074
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:41,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: if the budget

3075
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is somehow released

3076
01:44:43,220 --> 01:44:44,580
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at an earlier time,

3077
01:44:45,220 --> 01:44:47,320
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it would minimize

3078
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:48,640
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the temptation

3079
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:52,140
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that some of our

3080
01:44:52,140 --> 01:44:55,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: members of the

3081
01:44:55,420 --> 01:44:56,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: mga scala,

3082
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:57,900
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na kung tawagin natin,

3083
01:44:58,180 --> 01:44:59,620
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that they will be involved

3084
01:44:59,620 --> 01:44:59,940
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in

3085
01:44:59,940 --> 01:45:00,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ...

3086
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: You know, pag tatago, pagbabawas, pagbibenta, recycle, or totally, they will just disappear.

3087
01:45:09,020 --> 01:45:15,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So, yun lang po, gusto namin ipaalam, as far as the agricultural economic sabotage,

3088
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:21,200
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we are working together with our enforcement agencies.

3089
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: We have a lot of seizures, and we are not focusing only on cigarettes.

3090
01:45:25,980 --> 01:45:34,660
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: The only reason why cigarettes or tobacco is being highlighted now is because ito po yung pinakamadali na makita at nagsisirculate sa bansa.

3091
01:45:35,060 --> 01:45:38,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: But we do operate also on other agricultural products.

3092
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:39,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: That will be all, Mr. Chairman.

3093
01:45:39,980 --> 01:45:40,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you.

3094
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:47,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, before I wrap up for second round of Senator Lacson, siguro just, ano ko lang, dagdag ko lang kayo sa NBI,

3095
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung what from information we received, itong fake cigarettes, grabe pala.

3096
01:45:52,180 --> 01:45:54,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Chairman, ang grabe ang dinsa, lucrative business, no?

3097
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:55,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Very lucrative.

3098
01:45:56,500 --> 01:46:03,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro, noong napatay yung MITN, dumami naman yung illegal, kasi yung cheap cigarette na wala.

3099
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:10,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero siguro, Director Batibag, yung ano lang may information, itong gumagawa ng fake cigarettes are mobile, no?

3100
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:15,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pag umiinit na yung lugar, lilipat, kaya ang hirap daw hanapin.

3101
01:46:15,820 --> 01:46:22,060
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero siguro, ano yan, more confidential funds, mahahanap nyo ba yun kahit mobile sila?

3102
01:46:22,060 --> 01:46:25,960
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Well, sabi naman po, in relation to,

3103
01:46:25,980 --> 01:46:32,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: whatever that will be given to us, we will continue to do our mandate, ano po.

3104
01:46:33,860 --> 01:46:37,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Nakita po namin yung problema, tama po si PG Padulyon, ano po.

3105
01:46:38,380 --> 01:46:46,240
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung cigarettes kasi, dahil sa mataas yung buhis, tapos ibibenta nila ng mas mura, talagang mas malaki yung return sa kanila.

3106
01:46:46,420 --> 01:46:52,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Pero, we'll continue doing our mandate, smuggled, pati po yung locally manufactured, meron na po rin yan eh.

3107
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,920
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: But yung mga raw materials yan, saka yung equipment,

3108
01:46:55,980 --> 01:46:59,400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na ginagamit niyan, galing pa rin po sa ibang bansayan.

3109
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:04,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, we continue to monitor it, we are relying on our human intel,

3110
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:11,360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and since CICC was mentioned kanina po ni Secretary Vida, tumutulong po sa amin ng CICC.

3111
01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:13,940
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We have a good coordination with CICC.

3112
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:18,520
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: They have the tools, the equipment, they don't have the law enforcement mandate,

3113
01:47:19,540 --> 01:47:22,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: so nag-uusap naman po kami, even po doon sa ibang kaso.

3114
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: At with the permission of Secretary Vida,

3115
01:47:25,980 --> 01:47:29,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: tingin ko na rin po, on Monday, September 28,

3116
01:47:29,500 --> 01:47:32,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ang DOJ po, ang Bureau of Customs, at ang NBI,

3117
01:47:32,380 --> 01:47:35,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we will sign a tripartite agreement,

3118
01:47:36,100 --> 01:47:39,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: particularly addressing the smuggling po.

3119
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:42,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Not only agricultural products, but not only cigarettes,

3120
01:47:42,980 --> 01:47:44,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: but lahat po ng mga...

3121
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:45,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ba't hindi kasama ang DA?

3122
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:48,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary Vida, isa ba?

3123
01:47:48,820 --> 01:47:51,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po muna yung...

3124
01:47:51,140 --> 01:47:53,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This is more for the case build-up.

3125
01:47:53,260 --> 01:47:55,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi ang nakita po namin ngayon,

3126
01:47:55,980 --> 01:48:00,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag may umakyat po sa akin for pet rev or ano,

3127
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:02,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dismissed, dismissed.

3128
01:48:02,780 --> 01:48:05,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi ang isa pong nalulungkot ako,

3129
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dahil wala raw bill of lading,

3130
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:08,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nadi-dismissed.

3131
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sabi ko, napakasimple, mga simpleng requirements,

3132
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:16,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: hindi masubmit ng ating mga kapatid mula sa Bureau.

3133
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:17,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Is Attorney Ong here?

3134
01:48:18,460 --> 01:48:18,580
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: No.

3135
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:20,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah, Robert?

3136
01:48:20,260 --> 01:48:20,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

3137
01:48:20,540 --> 01:48:20,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yeah?

3138
01:48:21,100 --> 01:48:22,460
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: No, Mr. Chair, he's not around.

3139
01:48:22,460 --> 01:48:22,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala?

3140
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:23,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, yeah.

3141
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:24,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: He confirms that.

3142
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:25,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

3143
01:48:25,980 --> 01:48:32,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya nga po ang amin po ngayong, ano, is to direct the BOC,

3144
01:48:32,820 --> 01:48:34,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: its officials, its enforcers,

3145
01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:40,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: really to man up and to basically to do the work,

3146
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:42,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na yung case build-up po, kumplitohin.

3147
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hindi po namin ma-prosecute eh.

3148
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:46,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nahuli na, nasis na yung produkto,

3149
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: tapos sa dulo, dismiss lang yung kaso.

3150
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:52,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact, sabi ni Attorney Ong,

3151
01:48:52,140 --> 01:48:55,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in our hearings against the agriculture smuggling,

3152
01:48:55,260 --> 01:48:56,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the 90,

3153
01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sorry,

3154
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:05,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the 100 plus cases that were forwarded by the DOJ

3155
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:11,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of apprehensions of agriculture products and smuggling products,

3156
01:49:12,180 --> 01:49:14,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 90 were dismissed.

3157
01:49:14,700 --> 01:49:14,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

3158
01:49:15,780 --> 01:49:16,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 90 cases.

3159
01:49:17,380 --> 01:49:21,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the reason was that the BOC did not provide

3160
01:49:21,260 --> 01:49:21,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: did not provide

3161
01:49:21,980 --> 01:49:27,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: true copies, di ba?

3162
01:49:28,180 --> 01:49:28,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

3163
01:49:31,180 --> 01:49:33,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, we confirmed that.

3164
01:49:33,380 --> 01:49:33,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi.

3165
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:38,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 90% of the cases, walang certified true copy.

3166
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, and then I told that to Attorney Ong.

3167
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:42,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I said,

3168
01:49:42,860 --> 01:49:46,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pwede ba kayo mag-usap ng DOJ at ng BOC?

3169
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:48,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Eh, kayo yung nagpa-prosecute.

3170
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos yung dokumentong galing sa...

3171
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:51,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Simple-simple lang.

3172
01:49:51,980 --> 01:49:54,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Another thing, Sekretary,

3173
01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:55,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag-aralan ninyo ng husto,

3174
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:58,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nire-report sa media,

3175
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:01,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kumpiskado, 9 million.

3176
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Worth of agri-products,

3177
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:05,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kumpiskado, 6 million.

3178
01:50:05,940 --> 01:50:07,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sabi ko, ang convenient naman,

3179
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:08,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: puro below 10 million.

3180
01:50:09,900 --> 01:50:09,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yeah.

3181
01:50:10,700 --> 01:50:12,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala, puro available.

3182
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:16,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? Parang, ano to?

3183
01:50:18,260 --> 01:50:19,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba? So, yun din,

3184
01:50:19,740 --> 01:50:21,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang kinangan yung pag-aralan, di ba?

3185
01:50:21,980 --> 01:50:27,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nakakaroon ng dagdag-bawas doon sa halaga.

3186
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:30,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir. Go ahead.

3187
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:31,120
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Well, well, well.

3188
01:50:31,300 --> 01:50:33,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Binansiyon nyo lang po ay caught my attention

3189
01:50:33,460 --> 01:50:36,160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because when I arrived po sa NBI,

3190
01:50:36,380 --> 01:50:38,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: yung huli namin, more than 10 million lahat eh.

3191
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:40,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We have onion, 37 million.

3192
01:50:40,980 --> 01:50:42,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, yung manok po yata, 12 billion ngayon.

3193
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:44,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yun ang una ko tinitingnan eh.

3194
01:50:44,440 --> 01:50:46,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pag nababasa ko sa dyaryo, magkano ito?

3195
01:50:46,900 --> 01:50:49,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil kung mas mababa sa 10 million ito,

3196
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:50,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: drawing lang ito.

3197
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:51,100
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Ah, yan po.

3198
01:50:51,420 --> 01:50:51,620
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Di ba?

3199
01:50:51,980 --> 01:50:53,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero meron pa nangyayari,

3200
01:50:53,900 --> 01:50:55,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nai-report ng 10 million,

3201
01:50:55,700 --> 01:50:57,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: abab, pero pagdating doon sa kasuhan,

3202
01:50:59,060 --> 01:51:00,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano, pumayat na.

3203
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kumaga, lumiit na na.

3204
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:03,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Bumaba.

3205
01:51:05,740 --> 01:51:07,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sen, if I may interject something.

3206
01:51:07,700 --> 01:51:08,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, but, yeah.

3207
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:12,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Very quickly lang because Senator Lacson has a second hand.

3208
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Quickly lang po on this matter.

3209
01:51:13,940 --> 01:51:15,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We already initiated something.

3210
01:51:16,020 --> 01:51:18,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Other than that tripartite agreement,

3211
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag nagdi-dismiss po ako ngayon,

3212
01:51:21,980 --> 01:51:23,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: petitions for review and PI,

3213
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we also mandate,

3214
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:30,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we give it back to the BOC or even the BIR

3215
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:33,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to resubmit subject to the rules of prescription.

3216
01:51:34,060 --> 01:51:36,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: To submit within a certain period of time,

3217
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to resubmit the documents

3218
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and to pursue the filing of cases

3219
01:51:41,540 --> 01:51:42,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: against the possible,

3220
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the individuals who would be responsible.

3221
01:51:46,740 --> 01:51:48,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And may engagement na rin po ako doon

3222
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:49,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kay Ombudsman.

3223
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:50,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sabi niya,

3224
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:52,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag hindi nila kinumply,

3225
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:53,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dereliction of duty.

3226
01:51:54,340 --> 01:51:56,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, yun po ang push namin ngayon.

3227
01:51:56,780 --> 01:51:58,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, meron na po kaming timelines

3228
01:51:58,660 --> 01:52:00,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na binigay doon sa mga officials.

3229
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:02,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Identified naman po kasi

3230
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:05,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kung sino yung mga officials na nag-file.

3231
01:52:06,440 --> 01:52:07,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: What's frustrating po is

3232
01:52:07,980 --> 01:52:09,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: as simple as a document,

3233
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:11,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: as a bill of lading,

3234
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:12,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: as simple document,

3235
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:13,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: as certified through copy,

3236
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:15,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: will cause the dismissal of the case.

3237
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:18,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Forgive me, Secretary Vida,

3238
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:20,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Director Matiba,

3239
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:21,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'm challenging you.

3240
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:22,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: These people are untouchable

3241
01:52:22,940 --> 01:52:24,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: up to this point.

3242
01:52:26,220 --> 01:52:29,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We're talking of billions of pesos worth

3243
01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:31,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of smuggled goods being brought into our country

3244
01:52:31,980 --> 01:52:34,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: whose quality is questionable,

3245
01:52:35,440 --> 01:52:37,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: whose safety standards are

3246
01:52:37,580 --> 01:52:40,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: obviously unclear.

3247
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:43,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: These are untouchable people.

3248
01:52:45,500 --> 01:52:46,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Prove to us,

3249
01:52:47,060 --> 01:52:48,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: show us that they are not untouchable.

3250
01:52:48,980 --> 01:52:50,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pakita nyo sa amin.

3251
01:52:50,480 --> 01:52:52,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Na itong mga bilyonaryong

3252
01:52:52,780 --> 01:52:55,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagsasmuggle ng bilyong-bilyong halaga

3253
01:52:55,500 --> 01:52:57,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng produktong agrikultura,

3254
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:58,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kay baboy yan,

3255
01:52:58,900 --> 01:52:59,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kay gulay yan,

3256
01:53:00,460 --> 01:53:01,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: manok.

3257
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:03,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Patunayan nyo sa amin.

3258
01:53:05,580 --> 01:53:06,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pakitanggilas po kayo

3259
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na hindi sila untouchable.

3260
01:53:09,700 --> 01:53:10,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Patunayan natin.

3261
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:13,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I'm more than willing to

3262
01:53:13,620 --> 01:53:16,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: support your budget

3263
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:20,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as long as the bottom line is

3264
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: itong mga untouchable na mga smuggler

3265
01:53:22,820 --> 01:53:24,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos na dapat

3266
01:53:24,180 --> 01:53:25,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang mga araw nila.

3267
01:53:26,540 --> 01:53:28,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kawawa ang ating mga magsasaka,

3268
01:53:28,660 --> 01:53:30,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kawawa ang ating mga mangingisda,

3269
01:53:31,460 --> 01:53:33,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kawawa ang ating consumers

3270
01:53:33,440 --> 01:53:34,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na lahat

3271
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:36,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ay

3272
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagdadaing dahil

3273
01:53:39,620 --> 01:53:41,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi na natin ma-afford

3274
01:53:41,220 --> 01:53:42,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung murang pagkain,

3275
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil hindi na makatanim

3276
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng maayos ang ating mga magsasakat

3277
01:53:46,440 --> 01:53:47,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at mangingisda,

3278
01:53:47,540 --> 01:53:49,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil itong mga smuggled na mga produkto,

3279
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:51,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kapapasok sa atin,

3280
01:53:51,620 --> 01:53:52,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nilalason tayo.

3281
01:53:54,140 --> 01:53:56,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Winawasak ang ating food security.

3282
01:53:58,400 --> 01:53:59,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pasensya na dahil

3283
01:53:59,660 --> 01:54:03,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we cannot do this.

3284
01:54:03,140 --> 01:54:04,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The Senate alone cannot do this.

3285
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:06,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We need your help

3286
01:54:06,220 --> 01:54:07,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we need

3287
01:54:07,020 --> 01:54:11,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pakita naman natin na

3288
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:12,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: itong mga untouchable

3289
01:54:12,860 --> 01:54:14,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ay hindi totoo,

3290
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bilang na mga araw nila.

3291
01:54:16,860 --> 01:54:18,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If I may respond,

3292
01:54:18,500 --> 01:54:19,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, please.

3293
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:20,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: The Department of Health,

3294
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:21,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Department of Justice

3295
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:22,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: under my leadership

3296
01:54:22,780 --> 01:54:24,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with all the 10 agencies

3297
01:54:24,060 --> 01:54:26,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is the primary law agency

3298
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:27,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the country.

3299
01:54:27,940 --> 01:54:29,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Isa lang kung pinangawakan natin

3300
01:54:29,140 --> 01:54:29,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: rule of law.

3301
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:31,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: No one should be above the law

3302
01:54:31,740 --> 01:54:33,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and we only prosecute

3303
01:54:33,740 --> 01:54:35,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: those who need to be prosecuted

3304
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:36,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and we will

3305
01:54:36,740 --> 01:54:39,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: not prosecute those.

3306
01:54:39,660 --> 01:54:40,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Batas lang po.

3307
01:54:40,980 --> 01:54:42,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we've been doing this,

3308
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:43,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sabi ng ibang komentator,

3309
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:45,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may chilling effect daw.

3310
01:54:45,540 --> 01:54:47,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But I beg to disagree.

3311
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:48,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It's not about chilling effect.

3312
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:50,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito na ho talaga yung advent

3313
01:54:50,300 --> 01:54:52,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng rule of law sa Pilipinas.

3314
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:53,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito na po talaga

3315
01:54:53,620 --> 01:54:54,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang dapat na norm

3316
01:54:54,740 --> 01:54:58,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kasi we owe it to the public,

3317
01:54:58,280 --> 01:54:59,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we owe it to the Filipinos,

3318
01:54:59,660 --> 01:55:01,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we owe it to the next generations,

3319
01:55:01,140 --> 01:55:01,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor.

3320
01:55:01,820 --> 01:55:03,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And the Department of Justice

3321
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:04,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: will be with you,

3322
01:55:04,220 --> 01:55:04,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the Senate,

3323
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:05,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in this.

3324
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:07,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sana ito na po yung norm.

3325
01:55:08,500 --> 01:55:09,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito na po talaga.

3326
01:55:09,980 --> 01:55:11,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Walang, walang yung,

3327
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:12,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: hindi titingnan yung pangalan,

3328
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: hindi titingnan yung malaki,

3329
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:14,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: maliit.

3330
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:17,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sundin lang natin yung batas.

3331
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At yung po ang aming direksyon,

3332
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:19,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mahal na,

3333
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:20,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Senator.

3334
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:21,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Maraming salamat.

3335
01:55:21,380 --> 01:55:21,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And just,

3336
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:22,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: very quickly,

3337
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:23,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you have my commitment.

3338
01:55:23,740 --> 01:55:25,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If we have to meet every day,

3339
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hanggang itong mga untouchable na ito,

3340
01:55:27,820 --> 01:55:27,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ay,

3341
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:28,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ay,

3342
01:55:28,860 --> 01:55:30,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: masampola na.

3343
01:55:31,500 --> 01:55:32,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know,

3344
01:55:32,140 --> 01:55:32,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when we were,

3345
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:33,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and this is my last point,

3346
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:35,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when we went after them,

3347
01:55:35,260 --> 01:55:36,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hammer and tongs,

3348
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:38,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in 2014,

3349
01:55:38,460 --> 01:55:39,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2015,

3350
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:41,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we filed cases against them,

3351
01:55:42,020 --> 01:55:44,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we suspended their licenses,

3352
01:55:45,780 --> 01:55:47,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because we had the power to,

3353
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:48,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we had monopoly,

3354
01:55:48,940 --> 01:55:49,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ano eh,

3355
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:51,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in terms of importation,

3356
01:55:51,140 --> 01:55:52,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang NFA noon.

3357
01:55:52,780 --> 01:55:53,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We brought down

3358
01:55:53,900 --> 01:55:55,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rice inflation

3359
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:56,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to 0.8%

3360
01:55:56,900 --> 01:55:58,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from 15%

3361
01:55:58,020 --> 01:55:58,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in one year.

3362
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:00,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In one year.

3363
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:01,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because we managed

3364
01:56:01,780 --> 01:56:02,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the rice supply.

3365
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:04,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Itong mga kartel na ito,

3366
01:56:04,500 --> 01:56:05,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ginagamit nila,

3367
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:05,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and this is,

3368
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:06,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi,

3369
01:56:06,620 --> 01:56:07,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: this is a cartel,

3370
01:56:07,300 --> 01:56:08,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are not private sector,

3371
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:09,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kasamkot din dyan,

3372
01:56:09,540 --> 01:56:10,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ilang mga,

3373
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:10,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kasabot din dyan,

3374
01:56:11,020 --> 01:56:12,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang ilang mga gobyerno,

3375
01:56:12,380 --> 01:56:13,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nasa gobyerno.

3376
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:14,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Diba?

3377
01:56:15,140 --> 01:56:17,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nung na-control yung supply ng bigas,

3378
01:56:17,220 --> 01:56:18,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bumaba ang preso ng bigas,

3379
01:56:18,780 --> 01:56:20,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag bumaba ang preso ng bigas,

3380
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bababa ang preso ng iba pang mga produkto,

3381
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:24,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: inflation will be managed.

3382
01:56:26,140 --> 01:56:26,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It will be,

3383
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:27,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it,

3384
01:56:27,820 --> 01:56:28,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rice inflation,

3385
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:30,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: whether going up or down,

3386
01:56:30,700 --> 01:56:32,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will bring down nationwide inflation.

3387
01:56:33,380 --> 01:56:35,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So we're actually talking of

3388
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:36,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hunger of our people

3389
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:38,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by enforcing the law.

3390
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:40,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Poverty

3391
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:43,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will continue to haunt us

3392
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:44,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if we don't address

3393
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:46,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the rule of law in our country.

3394
01:56:47,260 --> 01:56:48,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I hope,

3395
01:56:48,780 --> 01:56:49,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I pray,

3396
01:56:49,900 --> 01:56:51,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na bago magtapos ang taon,

3397
01:56:52,180 --> 01:56:54,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or maybe in the next six months,

3398
01:56:54,780 --> 01:56:55,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: makikita na natin

3399
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:57,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung mga untouchable ay

3400
01:56:57,220 --> 01:56:59,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbe-behave na

3401
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at yung iba ay nakakulong na.

3402
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:02,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Salamat,

3403
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:03,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary Vida,

3404
01:57:03,620 --> 01:57:04,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you have my support.

3405
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:05,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala na,

3406
01:57:05,620 --> 01:57:06,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wala na akong tanong.

3407
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:06,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

3408
01:57:09,100 --> 01:57:09,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige.

3409
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:10,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Ping,

3410
01:57:10,660 --> 01:57:10,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: go ahead.

3411
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:11,520
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

3412
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:12,960
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Segway lang muna tayo

3413
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:14,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: para pambawas ng passion

3414
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:15,020
Senator Panfilo Lacson: saka tension.

3415
01:57:16,540 --> 01:57:17,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Balikan ko lang yung topic kanina

3416
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:18,760
Senator Panfilo Lacson: sa express lane.

3417
01:57:18,780 --> 01:57:20,540
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Bit of information.

3418
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Under Special Provision No. 1

3419
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,080
Senator Panfilo Lacson: of the BI budget

3420
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:28,220
Senator Panfilo Lacson: sa 2026 gaya ito.

3421
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,420
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung express lane,

3422
01:57:31,580 --> 01:57:32,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 64%

3423
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:34,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ng collection ninyo

3424
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: goes to overtime.

3425
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:37,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Di ba?

3426
01:57:37,980 --> 01:57:40,440
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 25% goes to contractual.

3427
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:41,780
Senator Panfilo Lacson: And 11%,

3428
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:44,180
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yun ang naririmit sa

3429
01:57:44,180 --> 01:57:46,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Bureau of Treasury.

3430
01:57:46,460 --> 01:57:47,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: My question is,

3431
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:47,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: let's,

3432
01:57:47,900 --> 01:57:50,080
Senator Panfilo Lacson: lahat ba niririmit nyo muna

3433
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:50,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: or

3434
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,020
Senator Panfilo Lacson: binibigay nyo muna sa

3435
01:57:53,020 --> 01:57:55,320
Senator Panfilo Lacson: specific purposes,

3436
01:57:55,780 --> 01:57:56,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: then you'll remit?

3437
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:58,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Because in 2026,

3438
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:01,540
Senator Panfilo Lacson: your actual receipts,

3439
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:04,120
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ano, 2025 ito,

3440
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:05,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: as of December 31,

3441
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:07,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: actual receipts is

3442
01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:10,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: 2,027,699,000.

3443
01:58:11,460 --> 01:58:13,120
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang actual expenditures,

3444
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:15,360
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ito yung 92.6%.

3445
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:16,240
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Now,

3446
01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:17,240
Senator Panfilo Lacson: meron kayong cash balance,

3447
01:58:17,900 --> 01:58:20,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: na 346,400.

3448
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:23,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ito yung for remittance

3449
01:58:23,260 --> 01:58:25,360
Senator Panfilo Lacson: to the Bureau of Treasury.

3450
01:58:26,260 --> 01:58:28,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: I go back to my previous question.

3451
01:58:28,500 --> 01:58:29,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Lahat ba muna niririmit nyo?

3452
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:30,820
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Tapos saka

3453
01:58:30,820 --> 01:58:32,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: ibinabalik sa inyo?

3454
01:58:32,540 --> 01:58:33,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Or it's the other way around?

3455
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I may confer with my colleague,

3456
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:37,960
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the head of our finance division.

3457
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:50,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

3458
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:52,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: after makakakolekta mo namin

3459
01:58:52,460 --> 01:58:53,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung 100%,

3460
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:55,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kukunin po namin 64%,

3461
01:58:55,780 --> 01:58:56,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: then the 25%,

3462
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:58,340
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: then directly po yung 11%

3463
01:58:58,340 --> 01:58:59,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to the National Treasury,

3464
01:58:59,720 --> 01:58:59,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

3465
01:58:59,860 --> 01:59:00,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you for that.

3466
01:59:00,780 --> 01:59:01,000
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Now,

3467
01:59:01,300 --> 01:59:02,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: another topic,

3468
01:59:02,620 --> 01:59:03,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: last na ito,

3469
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:05,000
Senator Panfilo Lacson: from this representation,

3470
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:07,920
Senator Panfilo Lacson: I just wanna pick the brain

3471
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,360
Senator Panfilo Lacson: of the secretary

3472
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:10,760
Senator Panfilo Lacson: of the DOJ

3473
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:11,940
Senator Panfilo Lacson: and the others

3474
01:59:11,940 --> 01:59:12,820
Senator Panfilo Lacson: na naandito.

3475
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:15,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung proposal ni

3476
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:17,580
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Secretary Jonvic

3477
01:59:17,580 --> 01:59:19,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Remulla, na ilipat

3478
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:21,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung BJMP sa

3479
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:22,420
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Bucor.

3480
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,240
Senator Panfilo Lacson: This may not need

3481
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:27,740
Senator Panfilo Lacson: legislation kasi under

3482
01:59:27,740 --> 01:59:29,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: the administrative code, pwede naman talaga

3483
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:31,660
Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung presidente mag-reorganize, diba?

3484
01:59:32,340 --> 01:59:33,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, anong take nyo rito?

3485
01:59:34,220 --> 01:59:35,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Our take is having

3486
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:37,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: a unified correctional

3487
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:39,820
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and penology system is

3488
01:59:39,820 --> 01:59:41,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ideal for the country.

3489
01:59:41,940 --> 01:59:43,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's one take po.

3490
01:59:44,020 --> 01:59:45,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Next is, everything

3491
01:59:45,700 --> 01:59:47,600
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: should be just operational and

3492
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: transition. So, we

3493
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:50,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: share po

3494
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:51,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that

3495
01:59:51,940 --> 01:59:55,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: direction.

3496
01:59:56,900 --> 01:59:57,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will

3497
01:59:57,880 --> 01:59:59,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: be more than willing to

3498
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:00,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: do that.

3499
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And hopefully, we have that unified correctional and penology system.

3500
02:00:07,180 --> 02:00:10,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: General Greg, kaya mo i-absorb?

3501
02:00:12,620 --> 02:00:19,240
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chairman, Your Honor, I think the best way first to do is one step at a time.

3502
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:27,340
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Detach BJMP from the ILG and make BJMP as a bureau.

3503
02:00:27,340 --> 02:00:34,060
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Initially as a bureau, and then when the time comes that really we can merge these two.

3504
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:39,940
Senator Panfilo Lacson: BJMP is effectively a bureau under the DILG, just like the PNP and the BFP, di ba?

3505
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:41,200
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, Your Honor.

3506
02:00:41,900 --> 02:00:43,620
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, ano, separate bureau?

3507
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:54,200
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Initially po, para because we have internal problems in Bucor, I want to solve them maybe before 2028.

3508
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:56,660
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And also BJMP.

3509
02:00:57,340 --> 02:01:04,400
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Can have a sunset review by our good secretary to really how to merge this.

3510
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:13,560
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Because in other countries, it's a unified penology and correctional system.

3511
02:01:13,940 --> 02:01:16,900
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And they call it the Bureau of Correctional Services.

3512
02:01:18,180 --> 02:01:20,020
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, in the future, it will be merged.

3513
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:26,820
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Senator, if I may, the first step would be transferring the BJMP.

3514
02:01:27,340 --> 02:01:29,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: From the DILG to the DOJ.

3515
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:31,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Then that will pave the way for that.

3516
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:37,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Especially with the residual powers of the President.

3517
02:01:38,740 --> 02:01:42,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I think legally, no need for a new law for that.

3518
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:47,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Ping and Secretary Vida.

3519
02:01:48,620 --> 02:01:50,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: An executive order will do.

3520
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:52,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Under the administrative code.

3521
02:01:52,420 --> 02:01:55,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Actually, we did that under President Aquino's time.

3522
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:57,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We took away the NFA.

3523
02:01:57,340 --> 02:01:59,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The NIA.

3524
02:01:59,980 --> 02:02:05,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The Pesticide and Fertilizer Authority.

3525
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:07,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the Philippine Coconut Authority.

3526
02:02:07,700 --> 02:02:10,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We took it all away from the Department of Agriculture.

3527
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:12,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And put it under the office of the President.

3528
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:15,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: By way of executive order.

3529
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:22,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, an executive order can now transfer the BJMP from the DILG.

3530
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:25,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Unless there is a law.

3531
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:26,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But I don't think so.

3532
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:27,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The law is.

3533
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:28,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The administrative code.

3534
02:02:29,420 --> 02:02:29,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Correct?

3535
02:02:29,820 --> 02:02:36,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If Yusek Marco is more knowledgeable on the current status now.

3536
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:38,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: There are already ongoing discussions on this, Your Honors.

3537
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:40,460
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Isa nang tanong ko.

3538
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:42,280
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Anong status doon sa recommendation?

3539
02:02:43,020 --> 02:02:44,300
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: With the permission of the Secretary.

3540
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:47,760
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Is the President positive on this?

3541
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:49,000
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you.

3542
02:02:49,340 --> 02:02:51,460
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: With the permission of the Secretary.

3543
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:52,320
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Good morning, Your Honors.

3544
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:55,440
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: At first, we were looking at two ways to do it.

3545
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:57,100
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: First one would be through legislation.

3546
02:02:57,340 --> 02:03:02,420
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: But during the study, we figured out that this was done before through an executive order.

3547
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:09,700
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: The only law that could probably be maybe a problem for this would be the local government code.

3548
02:03:10,420 --> 02:03:16,600
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Because the provincial jails, according to the local government code, belongs to the provincial.

3549
02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:19,360
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: That's the only problem, Your Honors.

3550
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:21,500
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yeah.

3551
02:03:22,060 --> 02:03:23,320
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Binigyan ng staff ko, no?

3552
02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:26,360
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Also under the Government Optimization Act.

3553
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:26,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: No?

3554
02:03:27,340 --> 02:03:29,080
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pwede rin mag-reorganize yung Pangulo.

3555
02:03:29,980 --> 02:03:32,980
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So maraming available na pieces of legislation.

3556
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:35,060
Senator Panfilo Lacson: No longer legislation, but batas.

3557
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:35,820
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Yes, Your Honor.

3558
02:03:35,980 --> 02:03:39,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So maybe you can work around itong dinidiscuss natin.

3559
02:03:40,020 --> 02:03:40,440
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Yes, Your Honor.

3560
02:03:40,540 --> 02:03:46,200
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: The present status right now is we have already formed a technical working group with the DILG, with the BJMP.

3561
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:50,000
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: And by the end of this month, we should be done with the draft EO already.

3562
02:03:50,620 --> 02:03:51,020
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Thank you.

3563
02:03:51,020 --> 02:03:54,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is the exact provision in the local government code?

3564
02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:55,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Would you have it?

3565
02:03:56,260 --> 02:03:57,260
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: I'll look it up.

3566
02:03:57,340 --> 02:04:02,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: As you, before, we can proceed with the other items, but later on, we'll go back to you.

3567
02:04:02,340 --> 02:04:03,280
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Thank you, Your Honors.

3568
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:04,680
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Wala na akong.

3569
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:06,220
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Alas dosi na, Mr. Chairman.

3570
02:04:06,420 --> 02:04:07,320
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pauwi na natin sila.

3571
02:04:08,740 --> 02:04:10,440
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Meron lang akong ilang katanungan.

3572
02:04:10,900 --> 02:04:14,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: For the record lang, Senator Ping, we were able to collate.

3573
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:24,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: The department was able to remit to the Bureau of Treasury 18,715,924,000.

3574
02:04:24,020 --> 02:04:27,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But what was released under...

3575
02:04:27,340 --> 02:04:36,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Their special account to the DOJ family is the total only of P262,778,000.

3576
02:04:36,820 --> 02:04:37,820
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's based on that.

3577
02:04:38,140 --> 02:04:40,080
Senator Panfilo Lacson: We'll take note of that, Secretary Vida.

3578
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:44,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ano lang na remit out of 18?

3579
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:45,840
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Maliit.

3580
02:04:46,260 --> 02:04:46,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, sir.

3581
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:49,000
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Sir, pahabol ko lang po. Pasensya na po.

3582
02:04:49,380 --> 02:04:50,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Go ahead, Director.

3583
02:04:50,220 --> 02:04:54,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Meron po rin kaming request saan ng restatement doon sa proposal namin.

3584
02:04:54,340 --> 02:04:57,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: This will help yung aming mga...

3585
02:04:57,340 --> 02:04:58,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga agents po.

3586
02:04:59,020 --> 02:05:02,860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I'm requesting for a budget for the increase of their hazard pay.

3587
02:05:03,380 --> 02:05:07,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Ngayon po kasi they're just getting P4,000 a month na hazard pay

3588
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:09,900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which is no longer at par with other law enforcement group.

3589
02:05:10,460 --> 02:05:11,880
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Baka po pwedeng gawin P15,000.

3590
02:05:12,020 --> 02:05:16,020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: This will increase po about P97 million a year po na madagdag.

3591
02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:18,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Which will boost the morale of our law enforcement po,

3592
02:05:19,020 --> 02:05:20,060
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ng mga agents po natin.

3593
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:20,700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Salamat po.

3594
02:05:22,380 --> 02:05:25,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala sa NBI modernization law yan?

3595
02:05:25,940 --> 02:05:26,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tinatanong na, Senator Ping.

3596
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:27,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Actually, nakalagay po.

3597
02:05:27,180 --> 02:05:31,340
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Nakalagay po na wala pong nakalagay na provisions na gano'n.

3598
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:37,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Pero we are actually requesting for that para lang po sana yung ikot po ng tao.

3599
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:41,220
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We only have about 370 agents po sa buong Pilipinas po.

3600
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:42,680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Ganun lang po karami.

3601
02:05:42,780 --> 02:05:47,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Pero nagsulat na po kami sa DBM to increase the number of our agents.

3602
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:50,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasi under the modernization,

3603
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:54,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ang minimum po na requirement na agents namin per region at per district.

3604
02:05:54,740 --> 02:05:57,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: When you say district, yung province po, the 82 provinces.

3605
02:05:57,180 --> 02:06:01,180
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Now, 6 dapat per region at per district.

3606
02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:04,140
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Ganyan po, we only have 370 po.

3607
02:06:04,140 --> 02:06:06,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Director Melvin, kindly check again.

3608
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:10,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi baka may naliligaw na provision para budget na lang yung problema.

3609
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:16,000
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Baka mayroong provision doon na related na pwedeng lagyan ng budget.

3610
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:19,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pakireview na lang ulit yung NBI modernization.

3611
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:21,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi kapapasa lang yan.

3612
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:25,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Baka naman mayroong naliligaw doon na nabanggit yung hazard.

3613
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:26,520
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sige po.

3614
02:06:27,180 --> 02:06:28,320
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Nagsulat na lang po namin sa inyo po.

3615
02:06:28,460 --> 02:06:29,460
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Maraming salamat po.

3616
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:31,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Address it to the chairman of the committee.

3617
02:06:31,900 --> 02:06:32,860
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ito pala meron oh.

3618
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:33,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: There you go.

3619
02:06:34,340 --> 02:06:34,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead sir.

3620
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:36,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Section 10.

3621
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:39,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Benefits and privileges.

3622
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:41,720
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Paragraph E.

3623
02:06:41,940 --> 02:06:42,500
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Hazard pay.

3624
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:45,800
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Subject to pertinent laws and rules.

3625
02:06:45,940 --> 02:06:50,000
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Meaning, pag sinabing subject to pertinent laws, gaayon.

3626
02:06:50,740 --> 02:06:50,960
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Di ba?

3627
02:06:51,420 --> 02:06:52,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So hindi na kailangan ng legislation.

3628
02:06:53,300 --> 02:06:54,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: It's already there.

3629
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:57,040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes sir.

3630
02:06:57,180 --> 02:06:58,980
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: That's why we're requesting po for the...

3631
02:06:58,980 --> 02:07:00,980
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kaya, mag-usap pala kayo ng chairman.

3632
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:01,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Opo.

3633
02:07:01,900 --> 02:07:05,200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: 97 million po yung computation namin for everyone po.

3634
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:08,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Please address it to the chairman of the committee just through me.

3635
02:07:09,060 --> 02:07:11,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Chairman through the vice chairman.

3636
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:12,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

3637
02:07:12,500 --> 02:07:13,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead sir.

3638
02:07:14,420 --> 02:07:17,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro, just a few more points sa Mr. Chair.

3639
02:07:18,620 --> 02:07:21,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro, dahil ka-ask to us, Commissioner Joel.

3640
02:07:23,380 --> 02:07:24,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Viado sa BI.

3641
02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:24,920
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay.

3642
02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:25,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung pong...

3643
02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:29,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: e-gates and Border Management System.

3644
02:07:29,420 --> 02:07:30,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi budget eh.

3645
02:07:30,500 --> 02:07:31,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya I have to ask.

3646
02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:32,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: As early as

3647
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:38,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2017, Bureau of Immigration has been receiving allocation for its Border Management Information System.

3648
02:07:39,140 --> 02:07:45,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: From 2017 to 2026, the project has received a total allocation of almost 10 billion. For 2027,

3649
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:51,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Allocation of BMIS is just 524 million.

3650
02:07:51,820 --> 02:07:54,740
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero through the years, malaki na rin ito.

3651
02:07:54,740 --> 02:07:58,140
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2024, 2.6 billion.

3652
02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:00,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2025, 3.8 billion.

3653
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:03,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2026, 1.8 billion.

3654
02:08:04,460 --> 02:08:08,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just like to ask, medyo malaki kasi ito.

3655
02:08:08,060 --> 02:08:16,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But what are the components so that everybody will understand of this project aside from the expansion of the e-gates in our international ports?

3656
02:08:16,460 --> 02:08:16,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ano po ito?

3657
02:08:16,940 --> 02:08:17,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: For convenience lang?

3658
02:08:17,980 --> 02:08:23,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Or does it include the software, lahat po ng information system?

3659
02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:24,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So probably can...

3660
02:08:24,740 --> 02:08:27,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You can expound, Commissioner Joel.

3661
02:08:27,940 --> 02:08:28,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

3662
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:31,240
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much po, Senator Ejercito.

3663
02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:33,580
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: With the permission of our Honorable Secretary.

3664
02:08:33,580 --> 02:08:44,580
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang components po ng e-gates project po namin, which aims to not only strengthen border control but also modernize the primary immigration processing,

3665
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:52,580
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: accelerate clearances, prevent fraud, and streamline the immigration processing through biometric verification.

3666
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:54,580
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang components po niyan are the following.

3667
02:08:54,740 --> 02:08:59,540
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: First, biometrics capture device in manned inspection counters.

3668
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:16,040
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang description po nito, it is a self-contained device at manned counters, which will capture the traveler's biometric data, such as fingerprints and facial images, with seamless software integration for operation.

3669
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,980
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Number two po, yung hardware po ng e-gates.

3670
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:21,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po yung nakikita po natin.

3671
02:09:21,500 --> 02:09:24,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: These are automated self-service gates.

3672
02:09:24,740 --> 02:09:31,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: These are the gates that allow eligible travelers to clear immigration without going through a manned counter.

3673
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:45,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito pong e-gates, they read the traveler's passport, they capture live biometrics, they verify the person's identity against the passport, they check the regulatory records, and open the gates if all checks are passed.

3674
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:52,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kasama rin po dito ang automated biometric identification system, o yung tinatawag po nating ABIS.

3675
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:54,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's the central system that stores...

3676
02:09:54,740 --> 02:10:01,060
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's the central system that stores and matches face and fingerprint data for real-time identity verification and fraud detection.

3677
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:04,620
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong e-gates monitoring station.

3678
02:10:05,220 --> 02:10:13,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po ang workstations used by immigration officers to monitor the status and performance of all e-gates in real-time.

3679
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:22,040
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The system shows whether each gate is operational, in use, or requires assistance, allowing officers to respond quickly to any issues.

3680
02:10:22,300 --> 02:10:24,620
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Andyan din po ang border control data.

3681
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:27,620
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: exchange platform, or BCDEP.

3682
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:35,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The secure platform that enables safe, real-time data sharing among border control systems and agencies.

3683
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Andyan din po ang administrative back-end system.

3684
02:10:39,420 --> 02:10:45,580
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The management system for monitoring usage, performance, and configuration of e-gates and related components.

3685
02:10:46,180 --> 02:10:48,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong document verification software.

3686
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:53,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It displays all verification results performed on the passport within the immigration...

3687
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:56,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ...officer's interface.

3688
02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:00,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nakaka-indicate po siya ng any detected anomalies or inconsistencies.

3689
02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:03,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong network requirements.

3690
02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:07,240
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kailangan po kasi yung communications infrastructure maigi.

3691
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:14,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nandun po yung switchers, routers, cabling, tsaka yung Wi-Fi that can securely connect all e-gate components.

3692
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:17,940
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong server requirements na kailangan pong kasusan.

3693
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:23,940
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The servers host and run core e-gate systems to handle transactions reliably...

3694
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:26,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ...and support future growth.

3695
02:11:27,140 --> 02:11:28,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Bangsan po po ang system integration.

3696
02:11:29,180 --> 02:11:35,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It will connect all e-gates and biometric systems with the border control information system...

3697
02:11:35,300 --> 02:11:39,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ...and other databases for real-time checks and smooth passenger flow.

3698
02:11:40,180 --> 02:11:43,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong backup and disaster recovery.

3699
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:46,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po yung kung mag-down yung system, dapat po may backup.

3700
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:54,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The data backups and redundant systems aim to protect information and restore operations quickly.

3701
02:11:54,720 --> 02:11:56,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: After failures or disruptions.

3702
02:11:57,520 --> 02:12:02,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong kailangan kasusan na support, maintenance, and warranty.

3703
02:12:02,900 --> 02:12:11,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For ongoing technical support, preventive maintenance, and repairs to keep all e-gates components running reliably.

3704
02:12:11,940 --> 02:12:18,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And last but not the least, anyan po yung training or structured training for the officers and staff...

3705
02:12:18,140 --> 02:12:22,820
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ...on operating, monitoring, and maintaining the e-gates and associated systems.

3706
02:12:23,220 --> 02:12:24,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So we have to consider...

3707
02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:31,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ...your honors, na hindi lang po yung hardware ang kailangan pong paglaanan ng budget.

3708
02:12:31,180 --> 02:12:37,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Andiyan po ang isang system na kailangan tumakbo not only in the airports in Metro Manila...

3709
02:12:37,740 --> 02:12:41,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ...but interconnected with all the other airports in the whole Philippines.

3710
02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:41,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po.

3711
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:48,640
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Chair Chairman, ang facial identification or facial recognition, yung requirement ninyo?

3712
02:12:48,860 --> 02:12:50,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Facial recognition, yung requirement.

3713
02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:51,040
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Recognition, mahal yan.

3714
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:54,560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We have been working, your honor...

3715
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:54,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ...with the...

3716
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:59,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ...within the budget, kung ano po ang naibigay sa amin pong budget po ng ating pong kapulungan.

3717
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:02,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yun po, we're working within that po.

3718
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:12,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So ang stages po niyan, ang first phase po, 1.9 billion, but we were able to lower that to 1.5 billion po.

3719
02:13:12,700 --> 02:13:23,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And secondly po, Your Honor, yung phase 2 po ng proyekto namin is around [unclear].

3720
02:13:23,740 --> 02:13:29,340
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 1 billion 347 million 57 thousand.

3721
02:13:29,340 --> 02:13:32,120
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi ko kasanayin na magbasa ng napakaraming...

3722
02:13:32,120 --> 02:13:33,800
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Lagi mo inisip yung milyon.

3723
02:13:33,820 --> 02:13:35,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Lagi, laging, laging, ano po.

3724
02:13:36,060 --> 02:13:45,040
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And phase 3 po ng proyekto is for 2026, 536,072,000, your honors.

3725
02:13:45,420 --> 02:13:45,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po.

3726
02:13:46,140 --> 02:13:50,220
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi basically, di ba, pagka facial identification, ang tanong lang, sino to?

3727
02:13:51,300 --> 02:13:53,700
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pero pagka facial recognition, may matching.

3728
02:13:53,700 --> 02:13:54,360
Senator Panfilo Lacson: May matching pa ito, di ba?

3729
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:55,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, po, your honor.

3730
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:59,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kaya po, meron po kaming biometric capturing systems po na binili.

3731
02:13:59,300 --> 02:14:04,960
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Not only the hardware, but meron pong biometric capturing devices po na binili, your honor.

3732
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:05,960
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kasi yan po ang crucial.

3733
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:14,600
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron pa nga pong instances, your honor, na meron pong airports na maaring hindi kailangan ng e-gates because of the passenger traffic,

3734
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:17,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pero kailangan ng biometric identification system.

3735
02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:18,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po.

3736
02:14:19,180 --> 02:14:23,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sa Southeast Asia, tayo na lang ba yung walang facial recognition?

3737
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:31,660
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi ko po masabi sa buong Southeast Asia, your honor, but I've been to different airports all over Southeast Asia and Asia.

3738
02:14:32,440 --> 02:14:42,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nakita ko na po yan sa, of course, Singapore, ang Indonesia, sa Bali, ang dami po nilang mga e-gates, ang Japan, of course, and Korea.

3739
02:14:42,420 --> 02:14:45,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po. Marami po talagang mga bansa, your honors, na gumagamit.

3740
02:14:45,260 --> 02:14:49,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kindly walk us through, no? Pagka meron na tayong facial recognition technology.

3741
02:14:50,220 --> 02:14:50,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, your honor.

3742
02:14:52,780 --> 02:14:53,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Anong...

3743
02:14:53,260 --> 02:14:54,420
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Anong mako-cover nito?

3744
02:14:54,780 --> 02:14:58,340
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pagdating ng pasahero, wala na tayo yung mga boots.

3745
02:14:58,880 --> 02:14:59,580
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, your honor.

3746
02:14:59,580 --> 02:15:00,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, your honor.

3747
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:00,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3748
02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:01,260
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Hanggang Pochina.

3749
02:15:01,900 --> 02:15:02,420
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3750
02:15:02,500 --> 02:15:04,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That is the ultimate objective, Your Honor.

3751
02:15:04,660 --> 02:15:06,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Gaya po ng sa ibang bansa, Your Honor.

3752
02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:08,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nadadaan na lang po kayo sa Amerika po.

3753
02:15:08,180 --> 02:15:08,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ganun.

3754
02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:10,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdaan, nakaka-capture na po lahat.

3755
02:15:10,340 --> 02:15:11,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Lahat captured na.

3756
02:15:11,340 --> 02:15:14,560
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, you don't need to queue.

3757
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:14,800
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Di ba?

3758
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:15,900
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Hindi ka na magka-queue.

3759
02:15:15,980 --> 02:15:16,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3760
02:15:17,080 --> 02:15:17,540
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ganun po.

3761
02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:20,820
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Because to which is own, you just go through.

3762
02:15:21,560 --> 02:15:22,520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po, Your Honor.

3763
02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:25,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang maganda po kasi sa ganitong approach, Your Honor,

3764
02:15:26,140 --> 02:15:27,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung manual counters po,

3765
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:30,940
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kung hindi mababawasan, matatanggal totally.

3766
02:15:31,300 --> 02:15:34,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But we are adopting a step-ladder approach.

3767
02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:35,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kasi po, we have to admit,

3768
02:15:36,220 --> 02:15:37,960
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kumbaga ho sa levels,

3769
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:40,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kumbaga ho nandito pa ho tayo sa level 1.

3770
02:15:40,300 --> 02:15:43,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi naman ho pwedeng agad-agad na sa level number 10 po tayo.

3771
02:15:44,060 --> 02:15:46,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, we have to go through the different processes and phases.

3772
02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:51,200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At ito po ang naisip namin na unang hakbang po,

3773
02:15:51,460 --> 02:15:53,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: patungo po doon sa ating adhikain,

3774
02:15:53,740 --> 02:15:57,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na lahat e dumaan doon sa tinatawag po nating artificial intelligence.

3775
02:15:57,820 --> 02:15:58,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3776
02:15:58,360 --> 02:15:59,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po ang...

3777
02:15:59,140 --> 02:16:00,620
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Wala nang human intervention.

3778
02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:01,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3779
02:16:01,580 --> 02:16:02,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That would...

3780
02:16:02,380 --> 02:16:04,800
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang problema nyo, saan nyo itatapon yung mga employees ninyo?

3781
02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:07,860
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, we have to consider yun po,

3782
02:16:08,020 --> 02:16:12,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na we are expecting passenger traffic to really increase exponentially.

3783
02:16:13,200 --> 02:16:15,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, we still need the immigration personnel.

3784
02:16:16,140 --> 02:16:19,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We also need people to man the different e-gates

3785
02:16:19,700 --> 02:16:21,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and the different systems.

3786
02:16:21,460 --> 02:16:25,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ultimately po, maari pong ma-prevent siya from entering,

3787
02:16:26,340 --> 02:16:27,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but...

3788
02:16:27,760 --> 02:16:30,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The discretion of the immigration officers still remains.

3789
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:30,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, kailangan pa rin po namin.

3790
02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:32,820
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, how much do we need for the first phase?

3791
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:35,820
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 1.3 billion.

3792
02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:37,820
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Na ibigay na po sa amin, Your Honor.

3793
02:16:37,860 --> 02:16:38,480
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ah, nandiyan na.

3794
02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:40,400
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, in the works na ito?

3795
02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:41,540
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po, Your Honor.

3796
02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:43,600
Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, where are we now?

3797
02:16:44,820 --> 02:16:45,600
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa ano po?

3798
02:16:46,380 --> 02:16:49,040
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa phase 2 na po tayo, Your Honor.

3799
02:16:49,660 --> 02:16:50,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nasa phase 2 na po.

3800
02:16:50,220 --> 02:16:50,840
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Nasa NEP yan?

3801
02:16:51,820 --> 02:16:52,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po, Your Honor.

3802
02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:56,620
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sufficient or not enough?

3803
02:16:56,620 --> 02:16:58,220
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung nasa NEP?

3804
02:17:01,500 --> 02:17:02,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sapat na ba?

3805
02:17:02,260 --> 02:17:04,120
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Enough na po, Your Honor.

3806
02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:05,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If I may, Your Honor.

3807
02:17:05,800 --> 02:17:06,880
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Wala na po nga, pigi-usapang budget.

3808
02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:09,160
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Okay na po.

3809
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:10,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

3810
02:17:10,500 --> 02:17:11,200
Senator Panfilo Lacson: I-adapt na lang yung NEP, ano?

3811
02:17:11,800 --> 02:17:12,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po.

3812
02:17:12,300 --> 02:17:13,440
Senator Panfilo Lacson: I-adapt na lang yung NEP.

3813
02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:13,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po.

3814
02:17:13,900 --> 02:17:14,300
Senator Panfilo Lacson: Okay na kayo?

3815
02:17:14,600 --> 02:17:14,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Apo.

3816
02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:18,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If I may give the specific phases po, kung nasa na po.

3817
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:20,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang status po ng phase 1,

3818
02:17:20,660 --> 02:17:23,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the procurement of the e-gates project has been completed

3819
02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:26,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: with a notice to proceed issued on 12 March 2026.

3820
02:17:26,620 --> 02:17:28,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to the winning joint venture and bidder.

3821
02:17:29,300 --> 02:17:31,420
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The project implementation will be undertaken

3822
02:17:31,420 --> 02:17:34,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: over a 9-month period from receipt of the NTP.

3823
02:17:34,320 --> 02:17:37,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So from March 12, may 9-month period po.

3824
02:17:37,180 --> 02:17:38,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang phase 2 po, Your Honors.

3825
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:40,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The technical specifications were submitted

3826
02:17:40,800 --> 02:17:42,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to the Office of the Department of Justice,

3827
02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:44,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Chief Information Technology Officer,

3828
02:17:45,100 --> 02:17:46,860
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: on September 8, 2026.

3829
02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:49,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And it was approved on the same day.

3830
02:17:49,780 --> 02:17:52,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Subsequently, the invitation to bid was posted

3831
02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:54,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: on September 19, 2026,

3832
02:17:54,480 --> 02:17:56,560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: with a pre-bid conference set for

3833
02:17:56,560 --> 02:17:58,820
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: September 30, 2026, Your Honor.

3834
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:00,960
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang phase 3 po ng proyekto,

3835
02:18:01,860 --> 02:18:04,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: a letter directive constituting the e-gates phase 3

3836
02:18:04,780 --> 02:18:07,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: project management team, or PMT,

3837
02:18:07,440 --> 02:18:09,120
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: has been issued by the Office of the Commissioner

3838
02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:10,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of the Bureau of Immigration,

3839
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:12,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and the drafting of the technical specifications

3840
02:18:12,880 --> 02:18:15,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: will commence shortly thereafter, Your Honor.

3841
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:19,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We have also done the required market scoping

3842
02:18:19,380 --> 02:18:24,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as required by BI Memorandum No. 2025-132

3843
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:26,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: in line with the new government's

3844
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:27,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Procurement Act.

3845
02:18:28,060 --> 02:18:30,320
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So dinaanam po namin yung pag-scope po

3846
02:18:30,320 --> 02:18:33,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa merkado as a preliminary step

3847
02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:35,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: in strategic procurement planning, Your Honor.

3848
02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:39,960
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just to continue, by the way,

3849
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:41,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mr. Chair, bago nat,

3850
02:18:42,160 --> 02:18:43,340
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: si Yusek March pala.

3851
02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:44,160
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Batiin natin.

3852
02:18:45,260 --> 02:18:46,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Congratulations sa bagong kasal.

3853
02:18:48,960 --> 02:18:50,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, commercial, huh?

3854
02:18:51,060 --> 02:18:53,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How are you related, Yusek Gutierrez?

3855
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:54,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

3856
02:18:54,200 --> 02:18:59,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ah, Yusek Gutierrez, you're the daughter

3857
02:18:59,640 --> 02:19:02,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of former Secretary Gutierrez.

3858
02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:03,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

3859
02:19:03,660 --> 02:19:06,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We were together in the JBC.

3860
02:19:06,680 --> 02:19:07,280
DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez: Okay, sir.

3861
02:19:07,340 --> 02:19:08,460
DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez: And it's her birthday today.

3862
02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:09,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's her birthday today.

3863
02:19:09,820 --> 02:19:11,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Please tell her happy birthday.

3864
02:19:11,340 --> 02:19:13,380
DOJ Undersecretary Margarita N. Gutierrez: And I'm putting that also on record.

3865
02:19:14,200 --> 02:19:17,120
DOJ Undersecretary Garney M. Candelaria: Sir, if I may, on record, sir,

3866
02:19:17,800 --> 02:19:19,600
DOJ Undersecretary Garney M. Candelaria: Usec Margarita Llamanzares.

3867
02:19:20,400 --> 02:19:21,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, yes, that's right.

3868
02:19:21,660 --> 02:19:24,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

3869
02:19:24,200 --> 02:19:24,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, that's correct.

3870
02:19:25,060 --> 02:19:26,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Congratulations and best wishes.

3871
02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:27,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, sir.

3872
02:19:27,320 --> 02:19:28,120
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3873
02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:31,280
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, ang component pa ito, kaya mahal,

3874
02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:33,300
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it's not just for convenience

3875
02:19:33,300 --> 02:19:34,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na akala kasi natin.

3876
02:19:34,720 --> 02:19:36,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Parang yung laman lang ng passport,

3877
02:19:36,900 --> 02:19:39,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: information, and to capture the database,

3878
02:19:39,380 --> 02:19:39,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yun lang.

3879
02:19:39,740 --> 02:19:43,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, meron din itong component na matse-check

3880
02:19:43,360 --> 02:19:44,880
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kung may derogatory records,

3881
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:48,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kung merong international fugitive

3882
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:52,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or international, ano ba ito, criminal.

3883
02:19:52,180 --> 02:19:52,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, po.

3884
02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:53,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya ba itong mahuli?

3885
02:19:54,200 --> 02:19:56,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, magpupula ba yung e-gates

3886
02:19:56,860 --> 02:19:57,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kung may problema?

3887
02:19:58,260 --> 02:19:59,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige, konti lang.

3888
02:19:59,960 --> 02:20:01,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kaya po, Your Honor.

3889
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:04,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pagsak na yung kulungan.

3890
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:08,440
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pwede po, Your Honor.

3891
02:20:08,740 --> 02:20:11,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Opo, naka-hook up rin po kami

3892
02:20:11,220 --> 02:20:13,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa sistema po ng Interpol.

3893
02:20:14,320 --> 02:20:15,620
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: International Police po, Your Honor.

3894
02:20:15,920 --> 02:20:17,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, how many e-gates have been installed

3895
02:20:17,580 --> 02:20:22,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and how will be our operation already?

3896
02:20:22,360 --> 02:20:22,540
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes.

3897
02:20:22,540 --> 02:20:26,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I assume na yung major terminals natin,

3898
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:28,640
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na iya 1, 2, 3,

3899
02:20:29,400 --> 02:20:32,080
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and then siguro sa Ibu and Dabao.

3900
02:20:32,260 --> 02:20:32,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige po.

3901
02:20:33,100 --> 02:20:33,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3902
02:20:34,620 --> 02:20:40,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa ano po, sa ating e-gates,

3903
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:44,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: meron pong donation which came from the private entity,

3904
02:20:44,940 --> 02:20:45,440
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: NNIC.

3905
02:20:45,720 --> 02:20:47,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, na iya 1 and 3 po,

3906
02:20:47,900 --> 02:20:49,640
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ano po yan, 78, Your Honors.

3907
02:20:49,640 --> 02:20:51,940
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And then, eventually po,

3908
02:20:52,540 --> 02:20:53,040
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa donation,

3909
02:20:53,380 --> 02:20:57,040
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: inilaan po namin yung budget po

3910
02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:59,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: para doon sa originally T1 and T3

3911
02:20:59,880 --> 02:21:02,440
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa ibang airports po sa buong Pilipinas.

3912
02:21:02,660 --> 02:21:03,760
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa mga major airports.

3913
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:05,700
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Even, basta international airports,

3914
02:21:05,840 --> 02:21:06,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: lalagyan nyo.

3915
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:07,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3916
02:21:07,740 --> 02:21:09,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, for the record,

3917
02:21:09,400 --> 02:21:11,820
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: NNIC or the new na IA Infra Corporation

3918
02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:13,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: donated about

3919
02:21:13,460 --> 02:21:18,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a few units for terminals 1 and 3

3920
02:21:18,660 --> 02:21:19,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang nabanggit nyo.

3921
02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:20,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tama po, e-gates?

3922
02:21:20,480 --> 02:21:21,960
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor.

3923
02:21:22,540 --> 02:21:23,620
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Already being used, no?

3924
02:21:23,780 --> 02:21:24,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po, Your Honor.

3925
02:21:25,640 --> 02:21:26,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa atin naman po,

3926
02:21:26,880 --> 02:21:30,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nakadeploy po yan sa Cebu, Clark, Bohol, Dabao,

3927
02:21:30,600 --> 02:21:31,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 47 e-gates po.

3928
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:33,600
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And ang nabanggit ko po kanina,

3929
02:21:33,700 --> 02:21:35,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung biometric capturing devices,

3930
02:21:36,300 --> 02:21:38,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na importante po makuha po yung information

3931
02:21:38,460 --> 02:21:40,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na kailangan po from the passenger,

3932
02:21:40,480 --> 02:21:43,820
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: merong 57 po tayo na biometric capturing devices,

3933
02:21:43,980 --> 02:21:44,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

3934
02:21:44,380 --> 02:21:45,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, kung may whole departure order,

3935
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:46,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for example,

3936
02:21:47,660 --> 02:21:48,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pupula ba yun?

3937
02:21:48,680 --> 02:21:49,520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pupula po, Your Honor.

3938
02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:52,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ah, hindi makakatuloy, Your Honor.

3939
02:21:52,540 --> 02:21:55,000
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, sige, marami kasi may HDO ngayon, eh.

3940
02:21:55,080 --> 02:21:57,600
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, just want to make sure na, hindi...

3941
02:21:57,600 --> 02:21:58,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, ano?

3942
02:21:59,360 --> 02:21:59,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Okay.

3943
02:22:00,900 --> 02:22:01,260
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pupula.

3944
02:22:01,340 --> 02:22:03,200
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi nakita ko doon, ano, Mr. Chair,

3945
02:22:03,300 --> 02:22:04,860
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nandaming e-gates green, eh.

3946
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:05,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ibig sabihin...

3947
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:06,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tuloy lang po.

3948
02:22:06,500 --> 02:22:07,800
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Go yun, tuloy-tuloy lang.

3949
02:22:07,900 --> 02:22:09,240
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, pag pumula, may problema.

3950
02:22:09,460 --> 02:22:10,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po, Your Honor.

3951
02:22:11,300 --> 02:22:13,580
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Doon makakailanganin yung human intervention.

3952
02:22:13,880 --> 02:22:14,520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po, Your Honor.

3953
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:15,620
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Taba po kayo ito, Your Honor.

3954
02:22:16,760 --> 02:22:18,320
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, hindi naman babawasan, no,

3955
02:22:18,320 --> 02:22:19,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung mga immigration officers natin?

3956
02:22:19,980 --> 02:22:20,640
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po, Your Honor.

3957
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:21,660
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As a matter of fact,

3958
02:22:21,660 --> 02:22:22,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ngayon po,

3959
02:22:22,540 --> 02:22:24,320
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kulang pa nga po tayo, Your Honor, eh.

3960
02:22:24,440 --> 02:22:26,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But we make do with whatever is given to us.

3961
02:22:27,300 --> 02:22:29,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Initially, I've been reiterating po,

3962
02:22:30,060 --> 02:22:31,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang immigration officers po natin

3963
02:22:31,740 --> 02:22:33,200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa buong Pilipinas,

3964
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:36,340
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: around 1,800, 1,900.

3965
02:22:37,300 --> 02:22:37,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon po,

3966
02:22:37,880 --> 02:22:39,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ikukumpira po natin yan sa ibang bansa

3967
02:22:39,880 --> 02:22:41,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na hindi naman po kasi laki

3968
02:22:41,220 --> 02:22:44,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng ating borders o teritoryo.

3969
02:22:45,020 --> 02:22:48,240
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang Japan, I think, has about 5,000, 6,000, 7,000.

3970
02:22:48,520 --> 02:22:49,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang Japan po yan.

3971
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:52,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Dati po, may nakausap po ko galing Singapore.

3972
02:22:52,540 --> 02:22:54,540
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nagtatakaw po siya, nung tinanong po niya,

3973
02:22:54,540 --> 02:22:56,200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ilan ang immigration officers niyon?

3974
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:58,200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sabi ko, less than 2,000 what?

3975
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:01,940
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And considering na pagdating po sa land area,

3976
02:23:01,940 --> 02:23:04,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: napakaliit po ng kanilang area,

3977
02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:06,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kukupira po sa atin.

3978
02:23:06,140 --> 02:23:09,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we don't only have to contend with the land area,

3979
02:23:09,140 --> 02:23:11,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we have to contend with the coastal areas.

3980
02:23:11,140 --> 02:23:17,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Milyon-milyon po ng metro kwadrado ang ating economic zone,

3981
02:23:17,140 --> 02:23:19,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: exclusive economic zone po natin.

3982
02:23:19,140 --> 02:23:20,240
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang coastal areas po natin,

3983
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:21,240
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: daan-libu po yan

3984
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:22,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng

3985
02:23:22,380 --> 02:23:24,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kilometro kwadrado.

3986
02:23:24,380 --> 02:23:26,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, we have to contend with that.

3987
02:23:26,380 --> 02:23:32,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And I've been telling those who have been asking

3988
02:23:32,380 --> 02:23:35,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang kinalakihan po natin nun,

3989
02:23:35,380 --> 02:23:37,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 7,100 islands ang Pilipinas.

3990
02:23:37,380 --> 02:23:39,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon po, 7,600 na.

3991
02:23:39,380 --> 02:23:44,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And divide that with the number of officers that we have,

3992
02:23:44,380 --> 02:23:49,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: on the average, one officer has to take care of four islands.

3993
02:23:49,380 --> 02:23:52,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron ho mga instances kung naano eh,

3994
02:23:52,220 --> 02:23:56,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kala po namin nung una eh, parang, ano lang ho, hindi nangyayari.

3995
02:23:56,220 --> 02:24:00,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But I was able to talk to one officer in a single day.

3996
02:24:00,220 --> 02:24:06,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: She went to four islands in one day just to check on the situation.

3997
02:24:06,220 --> 02:24:08,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ganyan po ang ano.

3998
02:24:08,220 --> 02:24:10,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, kailangan po natin na mas marami ring officers yan.

3999
02:24:10,220 --> 02:24:12,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Masama dun sa four islands ang island of Luzon.

4000
02:24:14,220 --> 02:24:15,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, go ahead.

4001
02:24:17,220 --> 02:24:21,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung ano lang kasi, napansin ko lang when I visited na IA, no?

4002
02:24:21,220 --> 02:24:25,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because I also defend the budget of the OTR.

4003
02:24:25,220 --> 02:24:27,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Nag-inspection kami dun recently.

4004
02:24:27,220 --> 02:24:29,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm happy na ang dami ng e-gates, no?

4005
02:24:29,220 --> 02:24:31,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya nakita ko yung green eh tsaka red eh.

4006
02:24:31,220 --> 02:24:33,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Na mahirap yung lumalabas na red.

4007
02:24:33,220 --> 02:24:40,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, anyway, ang meron lang common complaint is that,

4008
02:24:40,220 --> 02:24:45,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro just walk us through or kaya kung ano yung patakaran ngayon,

4009
02:24:45,220 --> 02:24:49,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pag foreigner, kailangan humarap sa immigration officer pa, no?

4010
02:24:49,220 --> 02:24:50,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung arrival.

4011
02:24:50,220 --> 02:24:51,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung arrival.

4012
02:24:51,220 --> 02:24:54,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung mga Pilipino, pwedeng mag-e-gates na.

4013
02:24:54,220 --> 02:24:55,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, ano po?

4014
02:24:55,220 --> 02:24:59,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron pong faces, Your Honor, if I can give you the schedule.

4015
02:24:59,220 --> 02:25:01,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tsaka yung ano lang siguro, just to complete, no?

4016
02:25:01,220 --> 02:25:02,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And before you mention.

4017
02:25:02,220 --> 02:25:03,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, sir.

4018
02:25:03,220 --> 02:25:06,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung ang problema kasi, yung departure,

4019
02:25:06,220 --> 02:25:09,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pag Pilipino, kailangan baliktad.

4020
02:25:09,220 --> 02:25:12,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang foreigner, e-gates ang pwedeng gumamit.

4021
02:25:12,220 --> 02:25:16,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero ang Pilipino, kailangan dumaan sa immigration officer, baliktad, no?

4022
02:25:16,220 --> 02:25:19,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, I understand because of the anti-yakat, no?

4023
02:25:19,220 --> 02:25:21,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa anti-trafficking.

4024
02:25:21,220 --> 02:25:26,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero can you, Commissioner Joel, can you explain ito pong rational?

4025
02:25:26,220 --> 02:25:27,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Bakit ganun?

4026
02:25:27,220 --> 02:25:29,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pag parating, bakit na, anyway,

4027
02:25:29,220 --> 02:25:35,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Senator Tulfo also brought this up during the DFA budget hearing,

4028
02:25:35,220 --> 02:25:39,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na pag parating, ang Pilipino lang ang pwedeng gumamit na e-gates.

4029
02:25:39,220 --> 02:25:41,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pag paalis naman, foreigner lang.

4030
02:25:41,220 --> 02:25:44,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, can you elaborate?

4031
02:25:44,220 --> 02:25:45,220
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes.

4032
02:25:45,220 --> 02:25:47,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron po kaming nakaset po ng mga,

4033
02:25:47,220 --> 02:25:55,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: naka-set po ng mga schedule pagdating po sa kung sino po ang pwedeng lumabas at maglabas-masok using the e-gates.

4034
02:25:55,220 --> 02:26:00,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Noong ano po, noong December 2025, noong una po nating nilaunch po itong proyekto na to,

4035
02:26:00,220 --> 02:26:05,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Filipinos po ang makakagamit upon arrival.

4036
02:26:05,220 --> 02:26:14,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Noong February 2026 po, mga OFWs po natin, mga kababayan po nating OFWs, ang pwede na pong makagamit sa departure.

4037
02:26:14,220 --> 02:26:16,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po ng May 2026,

4038
02:26:16,220 --> 02:26:24,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung mga temporary visitors eligible under the, or admitted under the, tinatawag po nating EO408,

4039
02:26:24,220 --> 02:26:29,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung mga eligible countries with the 30-day visa-free arrangement,

4040
02:26:29,220 --> 02:26:32,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: makakagamit na rin po sila sa departure.

4041
02:26:32,220 --> 02:26:39,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po noong June 2026, ang foreign nationals under the Balikbayanan Program,

4042
02:26:39,220 --> 02:26:42,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: makakagamit po sila sa departure.

4043
02:26:42,220 --> 02:26:46,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At yun pong non-first-time travelers.

4044
02:26:46,220 --> 02:26:50,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kabila sa Pilipinos, departure din po noong June 2026.

4045
02:26:50,220 --> 02:26:54,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At yun pong mga registered po sa Commission on Filipinos Overseas.

4046
02:26:54,220 --> 02:26:59,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa first quarter of 2027, ang schedule po natin,

4047
02:26:59,220 --> 02:27:05,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: upon arrival, ang other eligible foreign nationals can use the E-gates.

4048
02:27:05,220 --> 02:27:14,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po ng second quarter ng 2027, other eligible foreign nationals can now use the departure gates.

4049
02:27:14,220 --> 02:27:15,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po ang schedule, Your Honor.

4050
02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:21,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And tama po kayo pagdating po sa mga kababayan po natin na aalis,

4051
02:27:22,220 --> 02:27:26,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we have to comply with the departure formalities na tinatawag po

4052
02:27:26,900 --> 02:27:30,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as set under the Interagency Council Against Trafficking

4053
02:27:30,300 --> 02:27:33,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of which the Bureau of Immigration is one of the members.

4054
02:27:33,020 --> 02:27:38,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We have to consider, Your Honors, that the Philippines is uniquely situated

4055
02:27:38,300 --> 02:27:43,200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: in the sense that ang border control po natin does not only pertain to those arriving

4056
02:27:43,200 --> 02:27:47,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but ang mga kababayan po natin ay piniprotektahan po natin

4057
02:27:47,480 --> 02:27:52,660
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: bago po sila umalis ng bansa just to ensure that they are safely,

4058
02:27:53,300 --> 02:27:57,320
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: they safely not only arrive but they safely work in the countries

4059
02:27:57,320 --> 02:27:59,240
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: where they intend to be employed.

4060
02:27:59,340 --> 02:28:03,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kaya po meron po mga proseso po kaming dinadaanan para humalaman

4061
02:28:03,900 --> 02:28:08,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kung ano po ang potensyal ng kababayan po natin na matatraffic.

4062
02:28:08,920 --> 02:28:17,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Um, ano po eh, it's unfortunate na ang mga perpetrators po

4063
02:28:17,180 --> 02:28:20,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nakakaisip po ng ano, ng iba't ibang mga kumbaga gimmick po

4064
02:28:20,740 --> 02:28:26,060
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: para ho makapagpalabas po ng mga tao papunta ibang bansa.

4065
02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:35,480
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Also, um, we received information, I think this was also asked sa house,

4066
02:28:35,600 --> 02:28:38,680
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to sa hearing, yung sa, you're in the prior,

4067
02:28:38,920 --> 02:28:44,560
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: process of finalizing the proposed PPP project, no?

4068
02:28:44,620 --> 02:28:49,460
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ito po yung Civil Aviation and Immigration Security Services or CAIS.

4069
02:28:50,220 --> 02:28:54,660
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This project has an estimated cost, project cost of 10.7 billion.

4070
02:28:55,500 --> 02:28:58,940
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So can you share with the committee the details of this CAIS project

4071
02:28:58,940 --> 02:29:01,980
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and who is the proponent? Kung ano po yung purpose?

4072
02:29:01,980 --> 02:29:08,360
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And what will it do to help protect us?

4073
02:29:08,920 --> 02:29:14,100
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ah, from, ah, lalo na sa international, ano to, no?

4074
02:29:14,480 --> 02:29:18,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Fugitives or anybody? So kung makakatulong ba ito sa ating pong crackdown on this?

4075
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:20,420
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige, Commissioner Joel, please.

4076
02:29:20,620 --> 02:29:22,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much po. Again, sir, to your ears ito.

4077
02:29:23,160 --> 02:29:25,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I would like to, to make it clear at this point po.

4078
02:29:26,580 --> 02:29:30,940
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ah, yung Civil Aviation and Immigration Security Services program po,

4079
02:29:31,220 --> 02:29:34,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: or CAIS na tinatawag, ah, it remains under review.

4080
02:29:34,500 --> 02:29:38,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And no final decision, ah, has been made concerning this project.

4081
02:29:38,920 --> 02:29:43,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We support the modernization of our border security system,

4082
02:29:43,840 --> 02:29:47,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but, ah, it should not be interpreted as an automatic approval

4083
02:29:47,080 --> 02:29:50,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of the, this particular proposal or its terms.

4084
02:29:51,080 --> 02:29:56,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, ang proponent po must, ah, justify yung proposed fee,

4085
02:29:57,000 --> 02:29:59,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the technology, financial structure, and other.

4086
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:01,020
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: commercial terms.

4087
02:30:01,620 --> 02:30:02,420
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And the government,

4088
02:30:03,620 --> 02:30:04,980
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: not only through the BI,

4089
02:30:05,200 --> 02:30:06,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but other concerned agencies

4090
02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:07,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: like the PPP,

4091
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:08,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the DOJ,

4092
02:30:09,160 --> 02:30:10,240
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the Department of Finance,

4093
02:30:10,660 --> 02:30:12,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: must independently determine

4094
02:30:12,160 --> 02:30:14,420
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: whether these are necessary,

4095
02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:15,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: reasonable,

4096
02:30:15,480 --> 02:30:17,180
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and in the public interest.

4097
02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:18,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon po,

4098
02:30:19,280 --> 02:30:21,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: do we think that it's in the public interest?

4099
02:30:23,360 --> 02:30:26,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We believe that it is a viable project

4100
02:30:26,880 --> 02:30:28,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: which would strengthen

4101
02:30:28,740 --> 02:30:31,320
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: border control and security.

4102
02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:35,260
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The CAIS is an integrated,

4103
02:30:35,560 --> 02:30:36,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: intelligence-driven,

4104
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:39,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: border security system

4105
02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:42,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that combines advanced passenger information,

4106
02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:43,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: merong biometrics,

4107
02:30:44,120 --> 02:30:45,800
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: may automated immigration processing,

4108
02:30:46,420 --> 02:30:47,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: may threat analytics,

4109
02:30:48,180 --> 02:30:50,560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and centralized command and control capabilities.

4110
02:30:51,360 --> 02:30:52,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And guaranteed po

4111
02:30:52,400 --> 02:30:54,960
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang technology refresh every four years

4112
02:30:54,960 --> 02:30:56,560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for the next 20 years.

4113
02:30:56,880 --> 02:30:57,820
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Initially po,

4114
02:30:58,200 --> 02:31:00,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang 10.7 billion po

4115
02:31:00,300 --> 02:31:03,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang magagastos dito ng private proponent

4116
02:31:03,460 --> 02:31:05,160
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for this project.

4117
02:31:05,680 --> 02:31:08,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Now, in the next 20 years,

4118
02:31:09,340 --> 02:31:10,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang estimate po is

4119
02:31:10,680 --> 02:31:12,340
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: mga 116 billion po

4120
02:31:12,340 --> 02:31:14,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang magagastos sila for operations, etc.

4121
02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:16,640
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the hardware upgrade,

4122
02:31:16,820 --> 02:31:20,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: it's about 52.2 billion

4123
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:21,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for the next 20 years.

4124
02:31:23,400 --> 02:31:25,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang objective po is to move

4125
02:31:25,880 --> 02:31:26,780
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the bureaucracy,

4126
02:31:26,880 --> 02:31:29,120
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: from predominantly manual

4127
02:31:29,120 --> 02:31:31,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and reactive screening approach

4128
02:31:31,100 --> 02:31:35,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to a proactive risk-based control system.

4129
02:31:36,780 --> 02:31:38,200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We have to contend po

4130
02:31:38,200 --> 02:31:40,080
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as international travel increases,

4131
02:31:40,300 --> 02:31:42,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nagiging masophisticated po yung methods

4132
02:31:42,100 --> 02:31:43,960
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: involving fraudulent documents,

4133
02:31:44,500 --> 02:31:44,900
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: aliases,

4134
02:31:45,720 --> 02:31:46,740
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: synthetic identities,

4135
02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:47,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: human trafficking,

4136
02:31:48,060 --> 02:31:48,360
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: terrorism,

4137
02:31:48,660 --> 02:31:50,560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and other forms of transnational crime.

4138
02:31:51,260 --> 02:31:53,860
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And this system will enable the Bureau

4139
02:31:53,860 --> 02:31:55,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to identify

4140
02:31:55,760 --> 02:31:56,860
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: high-risk,

4141
02:31:56,880 --> 02:31:58,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: low-risk travelers earlier,

4142
02:31:58,880 --> 02:32:00,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: before they reach the physical border,

4143
02:32:00,880 --> 02:32:02,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: while allowing legitimate,

4144
02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:04,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: low-risk travelers to be processed

4145
02:32:04,880 --> 02:32:05,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: more efficiently.

4146
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:06,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon po,

4147
02:32:06,880 --> 02:32:07,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang konsepto po nito is

4148
02:32:07,880 --> 02:32:11,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we are expanding the borders.

4149
02:32:11,880 --> 02:32:13,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meaning, hindi lang po sa physical borders

4150
02:32:13,880 --> 02:32:15,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na ho natin makokontrol,

4151
02:32:15,880 --> 02:32:19,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but even before they board the plane,

4152
02:32:19,880 --> 02:32:21,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: alam na po natin kung pwedeng,

4153
02:32:21,880 --> 02:32:24,880
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: dapat ba silang papasukay nung hindi.

4154
02:32:24,880 --> 02:32:26,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po yung konsepto nung

4155
02:32:26,720 --> 02:32:27,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kais, Your Honor.

4156
02:32:27,720 --> 02:32:29,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kom Joel, just ano,

4157
02:32:29,720 --> 02:32:31,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: eto ba'y ano,

4158
02:32:31,720 --> 02:32:33,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: do you have parang network na

4159
02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:36,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: international database na yung mga fugitives

4160
02:32:36,720 --> 02:32:40,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and yung pong mga may mga derogatory records,

4161
02:32:40,720 --> 02:32:42,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: especially kung may mga terrorist sim yan?

4162
02:32:42,720 --> 02:32:44,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Eto bang ano,

4163
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:46,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is this part of this,

4164
02:32:46,720 --> 02:32:48,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is this part,

4165
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:50,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is the information part of this project?

4166
02:32:50,720 --> 02:32:51,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4167
02:32:51,720 --> 02:32:54,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kasama ho dyan ang analytics ng muka

4168
02:32:54,720 --> 02:32:56,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na nakikita po natin sa internet.

4169
02:32:56,720 --> 02:32:58,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So billions of faces ho makikita dyan.

4170
02:32:58,720 --> 02:33:00,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din hong naka,

4171
02:33:00,720 --> 02:33:01,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: naka ano po yan,

4172
02:33:01,720 --> 02:33:03,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nakakonekta sa Interpol database

4173
02:33:03,720 --> 02:33:08,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and other databases ho na relevant po dito sa ano po,

4174
02:33:08,720 --> 02:33:11,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kung kailangan papasukin ng isang individual o hindi.

4175
02:33:11,720 --> 02:33:16,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So is this integrated with other border control system of other countries?

4176
02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:18,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po. Yan po ang,

4177
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:20,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, yan po ang objective, Your Honor.

4178
02:33:20,720 --> 02:33:22,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And capability po.

4179
02:33:22,720 --> 02:33:24,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Presently, how many countries, almost all,

4180
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:26,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I presume mga first world countries

4181
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:28,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: are already using this system?

4182
02:33:28,720 --> 02:33:30,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4183
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:32,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang proponent po is US-based.

4184
02:33:32,720 --> 02:33:36,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So based on information provided to us,

4185
02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:40,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: they operate the system with other partners

4186
02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:43,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: within four major cities po.

4187
02:33:43,720 --> 02:33:47,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Four major airports in four major cities in the United States.

4188
02:33:47,720 --> 02:33:49,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din po sila sa Asia,

4189
02:33:49,720 --> 02:33:52,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: meron po sa Africa and Europe.

4190
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:54,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po, all over the world po.

4191
02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:56,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Merong ano, diba?

4192
02:33:56,720 --> 02:33:58,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: May information na,

4193
02:33:58,720 --> 02:34:02,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yun sa manifesto pa lang ng mga incoming passengers,

4194
02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:05,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: possible ba na malalaman nyo na

4195
02:34:05,720 --> 02:34:07,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na meron itong mga ito,

4196
02:34:07,720 --> 02:34:09,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or these people are,

4197
02:34:09,720 --> 02:34:11,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: halimbawa, international terrorist,

4198
02:34:11,720 --> 02:34:13,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or fugitive,

4199
02:34:13,720 --> 02:34:15,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: o meron yung records sa iba?

4200
02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:17,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasama rin ba ito sa ano?

4201
02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:18,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasama na rin dito?

4202
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:19,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po, Your Honor.

4203
02:34:19,720 --> 02:34:20,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po ang tinatawag na

4204
02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:22,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Advanced Passenger Information System.

4205
02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:23,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon po,

4206
02:34:23,720 --> 02:34:25,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: bago pa po mag-board,

4207
02:34:25,720 --> 02:34:29,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pagka nagbigay na po ng manifesto ang isang aeroplano,

4208
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:32,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pag sakay po ng isang tao sa airport,

4209
02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:35,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: doon sa aeroplano po sa airport,

4210
02:34:35,720 --> 02:34:37,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: on the way or in transit,

4211
02:34:37,720 --> 02:34:39,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ibabato na po sa amin yung information.

4212
02:34:39,720 --> 02:34:43,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So malalaman po namin kung isa pong tao ay dapat papasukin sa atin.

4213
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:45,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So we have been using this system

4214
02:34:45,720 --> 02:34:47,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na-exclude po ang ibang,

4215
02:34:47,720 --> 02:34:50,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: marami na pong mga nagtatangka rito magtago,

4216
02:34:50,720 --> 02:34:52,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: o mga pugante po,

4217
02:34:52,720 --> 02:34:55,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: o fugitives from other countries.

4218
02:34:55,720 --> 02:34:57,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito pong system ng CAIS

4219
02:34:57,720 --> 02:34:59,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: will integrate and

4220
02:34:59,720 --> 02:35:02,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: also improve upon that system.

4221
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:05,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So pagka dito sa CAIS project po,

4222
02:35:05,720 --> 02:35:07,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: let's say meron ho 20 years ago,

4223
02:35:07,720 --> 02:35:10,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: a certain person made a pronouncement,

4224
02:35:10,720 --> 02:35:13,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: posted it on the web,

4225
02:35:13,720 --> 02:35:17,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: terroristic yung kanyang tendency or activity,

4226
02:35:17,720 --> 02:35:20,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the system can read that.

4227
02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:25,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang ano rin dito, may gastusin ba tayo rito?

4228
02:35:25,720 --> 02:35:27,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Or is this entirely PPP?

4229
02:35:27,720 --> 02:35:30,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Wala po tayong gastusin, Your Honor.

4230
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:34,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But what sets this apart from the other

4231
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:36,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: border management information system?

4232
02:35:36,720 --> 02:35:39,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung currently nasa GAA, no?

4233
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:41,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anong pagkakaiba na ito?

4234
02:35:41,720 --> 02:35:43,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Is this integrated?

4235
02:35:43,720 --> 02:35:46,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Magiging linked ba ito when it becomes operational?

4236
02:35:46,720 --> 02:35:48,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po integrative, Your Honor.

4237
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:51,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Iintegrate po dito yung iba't ibang systems

4238
02:35:51,720 --> 02:35:55,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that we are currently enjoying or using, Your Honor.

4239
02:35:55,720 --> 02:35:58,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po kasi, ang sa atin ngayon,

4240
02:35:58,720 --> 02:36:01,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: manual, manually based, reactive.

4241
02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:05,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po proactive, meaning bago pa ho dumating sa mga borders natin,

4242
02:36:05,720 --> 02:36:08,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: based on the information available on the web,

4243
02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:12,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: based on the information available or given to us

4244
02:36:12,720 --> 02:36:14,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: or integrated with our system,

4245
02:36:14,720 --> 02:36:17,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na available sa iba't ibang bansa and other agencies

4246
02:36:17,720 --> 02:36:20,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: dito sa Pilipinas, we can determine

4247
02:36:20,720 --> 02:36:25,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the, not the capability, not only the capability,

4248
02:36:25,720 --> 02:36:30,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but the, if, whether or not we will admit a person

4249
02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:35,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: or that person is privileged enough to enter the Philippines.

4250
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:37,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po ang ano, yan po ang sistema na.

4251
02:36:37,720 --> 02:36:39,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's a very good, that's very good news.

4252
02:36:39,720 --> 02:36:41,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At least, ano na ngayon, no?

4253
02:36:41,720 --> 02:36:44,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The use of technology, we can already monitor those

4254
02:36:44,720 --> 02:36:46,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that were incoming pa lang,

4255
02:36:46,720 --> 02:36:47,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4256
02:36:47,720 --> 02:36:48,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and those outgoing.

4257
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:49,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Lalo na kung,

4258
02:36:49,720 --> 02:36:51,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: terrorist ba yan o fugitive.

4259
02:36:51,720 --> 02:36:56,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At least, those undesirable aliens will not be allowed anymore to enter.

4260
02:36:56,720 --> 02:36:57,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4261
02:36:57,720 --> 02:37:00,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Wang ano lang, tanong lang, Mr. Chair, dahil ito'y PPP,

4262
02:37:00,720 --> 02:37:03,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: paano sila, paano babawiin ang proponent

4263
02:37:03,720 --> 02:37:08,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or how will they, ano po ang income dito?

4264
02:37:08,720 --> 02:37:11,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Since it's a public-private partnership.

4265
02:37:11,720 --> 02:37:12,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4266
02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:14,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron pong proposed service fee,

4267
02:37:14,720 --> 02:37:17,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: which amounts to $4 per travel,

4268
02:37:17,720 --> 02:37:20,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: per ano po, per kada biyahe po.

4269
02:37:20,720 --> 02:37:22,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So that's approximately about,

4270
02:37:22,720 --> 02:37:24,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: One entry?

4271
02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:26,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ano po, for one travel po.

4272
02:37:26,720 --> 02:37:31,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kung round trip po yan, that's eight US dollars.

4273
02:37:31,720 --> 02:37:33,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po.

4274
02:37:33,720 --> 02:37:38,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So that's approximately a little over 240 pesos.

4275
02:37:38,720 --> 02:37:42,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But if you can compare that to other countries,

4276
02:37:42,720 --> 02:37:44,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa ibang bansa po kasi,

4277
02:37:44,720 --> 02:37:46,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Australia charges about 2,600.

4278
02:37:46,720 --> 02:37:48,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I was supposed to ask that,

4279
02:37:48,720 --> 02:37:50,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: how does it compare to other countries, yung rates?

4280
02:37:50,720 --> 02:37:51,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po, Your Honor.

4281
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:53,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So paano sa ibang bansa, mas mata?

4282
02:37:53,720 --> 02:37:55,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang pinakamababa nga po, Your Honor,

4283
02:37:55,720 --> 02:37:59,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: would be Japan, that's about 1,100 pesos,

4284
02:37:59,720 --> 02:38:01,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as compared to 242 sa atin.

4285
02:38:01,720 --> 02:38:04,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang Hong Kong charges about 1,400, 1,500.

4286
02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:07,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang Thailand, around 1,800.

4287
02:38:07,720 --> 02:38:10,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang Australia, 2,600.

4288
02:38:10,720 --> 02:38:11,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So ganyan po ang range.

4289
02:38:11,720 --> 02:38:13,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang Singapore is about 2,400.

4290
02:38:13,720 --> 02:38:15,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So yan po ang, ano po,

4291
02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:18,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yan po ang range ng mga sinisigil po ng ibang bansa.

4292
02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:20,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Maaring hindi po natin halita.

4293
02:38:20,720 --> 02:38:24,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pero naka-integrate po yan sa, sa ano po natin, sa ticket.

4294
02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:26,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa airline ticket.

4295
02:38:26,720 --> 02:38:29,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So tayo ngayon, walang charge?

4296
02:38:29,720 --> 02:38:32,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Wala po tayong sinacharge, Your Honor.

4297
02:38:32,720 --> 02:38:35,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Parang ano rito, you know, kasi there's such a thing doon

4298
02:38:35,720 --> 02:38:37,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa pag may financial company ka or banks,

4299
02:38:37,720 --> 02:38:39,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung Credit Investigation Bureau.

4300
02:38:39,720 --> 02:38:44,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You pay, you, for a fee, you can get information, no?

4301
02:38:44,720 --> 02:38:48,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Para sa mga credit, sa mga credit, sa mga banks, financial institutions.

4302
02:38:48,720 --> 02:38:52,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So ito, parang in international community,

4303
02:38:52,720 --> 02:38:57,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: baka kakakuha kayong information about persons, no?

4304
02:38:57,720 --> 02:39:02,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: About yung kanila pong records, especially kung terrorism

4305
02:39:02,720 --> 02:39:05,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: o ano man ang kanilang records, international records.

4306
02:39:05,720 --> 02:39:06,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ito ba yun, ah?

4307
02:39:06,720 --> 02:39:08,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's part of it na yung database?

4308
02:39:08,720 --> 02:39:09,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4309
02:39:09,720 --> 02:39:11,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So ano to?

4310
02:39:11,720 --> 02:39:15,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Also for the protection and safety of everyone, no?

4311
02:39:15,720 --> 02:39:16,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4312
02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:20,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, as a matter of fact, we directed the private proponent

4313
02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:24,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to commence with the public consultation process.

4314
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:27,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So ibig sabihin, ang mechanics po niyan, inaayos na po nila.

4315
02:39:27,720 --> 02:39:32,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang sabi nga po namin sa kanila, mag-ano tayo, magkaroon kayo ng, ah,

4316
02:39:32,720 --> 02:39:39,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng public na ano, na, na paggamit po para masubukan po ng mga nakaka, ano po,

4317
02:39:39,720 --> 02:39:43,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nag-interesado at nakakalam kung paano po nag-working system.

4318
02:39:43,720 --> 02:39:45,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We're actually working on that.

4319
02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:47,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The proponent has been directed to do that, Your Honor.

4320
02:39:47,720 --> 02:39:49,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But it's still under evaluation, no? I presume.

4321
02:39:49,720 --> 02:39:50,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4322
02:39:50,720 --> 02:39:51,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4323
02:39:51,720 --> 02:39:53,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's still under evaluation.

4324
02:39:53,720 --> 02:39:55,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's still under contract, technical review.

4325
02:39:55,720 --> 02:40:01,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's still undergoing the review process with the PPP Center, with the DOJ,

4326
02:40:01,720 --> 02:40:04,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: with the Bureau of Immigration, Your Honor.

4327
02:40:04,720 --> 02:40:07,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi baka mamaya sabihin ng mga pasahero,

4328
02:40:07,720 --> 02:40:08,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tatanggal.

4329
02:40:08,720 --> 02:40:10,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tatanggal niyang travel tax, may bagong fee.

4330
02:40:10,720 --> 02:40:15,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But this will be, will this be charged to passengers?

4331
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:18,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa mga travelers po, Your Honor.

4332
02:40:18,720 --> 02:40:19,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa mga travelers?

4333
02:40:19,720 --> 02:40:20,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's a service fee, Yes, Your Honor.

4334
02:40:20,720 --> 02:40:21,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Service fee?

4335
02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:22,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes po.

4336
02:40:22,720 --> 02:40:24,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But under, it's now under evaluation?

4337
02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:27,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, po. It's under evaluation, Your Honor.

4338
02:40:27,720 --> 02:40:29,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, ah, thank you.

4339
02:40:29,720 --> 02:40:33,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro, Mr. Chair, thank you sa Commissioner Joel for at least na-elaborate niyo

4340
02:40:33,720 --> 02:40:36,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: lalo niyo sa E-Gates issue and lahat sa KAIS.

4341
02:40:36,720 --> 02:40:37,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ahm.

4342
02:40:37,720 --> 02:40:41,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Doon sa Witness Protection Program, siguro, ahm, ano lang, ahm,

4343
02:40:41,720 --> 02:40:44,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sik, no, yung, just like to us as Chair of Committee on Finance,

4344
02:40:44,720 --> 02:40:47,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ah, yung siguro na-recommend naman ating Vice Chair,

4345
02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:50,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung pong, ah, yung inyong pong ano rito,

4346
02:40:50,720 --> 02:40:54,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung inyong budget for your Witness Protection Program,

4347
02:40:54,720 --> 02:40:57,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is it enough already for 20, 27?

4348
02:40:57,720 --> 02:41:01,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Considering na medyo marami tayong tinatanggap dito, no?

4349
02:41:01,720 --> 02:41:03,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, magkano bang budget natin ngayong taon?

4350
02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:05,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Magkano ang proposed budget next year?

4351
02:41:05,720 --> 02:41:07,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Para dito?

4352
02:41:07,720 --> 02:41:13,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi, parang sa aming pagtingin, walang, essentially, walang change, walang dagdag, walang bawas, no?

4353
02:41:13,720 --> 02:41:15,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, sa nabanggit.

4354
02:41:15,720 --> 02:41:22,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, pero meron kayong additional request sa 500 million pero hindi na ibigay ng DBM, tama ba?

4355
02:41:22,720 --> 02:41:30,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang, the biggest part na nawala po dito is yung confidential fund, oh.

4356
02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:33,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi we're, we're working on a budget of around 500 million for 2026.

4357
02:41:33,720 --> 02:41:45,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will be really hard-pressed to continue with the same level of scaling yung aming engagements.

4358
02:41:45,720 --> 02:41:47,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ongoing engagements, that's a problem po.

4359
02:41:47,720 --> 02:41:55,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, if we can go back to 2026 levels, Your Honors, that's the basic request, Your Honor.

4360
02:41:55,720 --> 02:41:59,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, ang wish niyo is just to go back to 2026 levels?

4361
02:41:59,720 --> 02:42:01,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2026 levels.

4362
02:42:01,720 --> 02:42:02,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2026 levels.

4363
02:42:02,720 --> 02:42:03,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2026 levels.

4364
02:42:03,720 --> 02:42:04,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2026 levels.

4365
02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:11,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, I would like to ask, Secretary, because I want to know whether the department is anticipating more additional state witnesses,

4366
02:42:11,720 --> 02:42:18,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi alam ko ginagastusan ninyo rin ito, particularly in connection with the flood control investigations, no?

4367
02:42:18,720 --> 02:42:20,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Medyo na marami rin ito eh.

4368
02:42:20,720 --> 02:42:27,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, yun pong, just like to ask, may dagdag ba tayo o sapat na ang kasalukuyang budget?

4369
02:42:27,720 --> 02:42:31,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: These are variables that we cannot foretell or predict, Your Honor.

4370
02:42:31,720 --> 02:42:32,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

4371
02:42:32,720 --> 02:42:39,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, given the current system we have, we will be able to take on more witnesses if necessary.

4372
02:42:39,720 --> 02:42:47,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sanay naman po ang Department of Justice yan at yung program natin na pag maikli ang kumot po, babaluktot na lang po.

4373
02:42:47,720 --> 02:42:57,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Speaking of state witnesses, ano po ba ang malino na kriteriya bago i-admit ang mga accused bilang state witness?

4374
02:42:57,720 --> 02:43:00,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: If I may ask, PG Dong, who's...

4375
02:43:00,720 --> 02:43:04,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: PG Dong, lagi naman itong suki dito.

4376
02:43:04,720 --> 02:43:13,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, aside from the value of testimony and evidence they can provide, do you consider the extent na kanilang participation sa krimen, kung magkano ang kanilang ibabalik?

4377
02:43:13,720 --> 02:43:15,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, siguro, PG Dong, please.

4378
02:43:15,720 --> 02:43:28,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Yes, with the permission of the Secretary, Mr. Chair, yung doon muna sa issue po kung ano yung qualifications, kailangan po, hindi po lahat ng tao na nag-a-apply sa program are automatically admitted.

4379
02:43:28,720 --> 02:43:38,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There are certain qualifications among them. Number one, that the person, well, the case involves a grave, one where the penalty is a grave penalty.

4380
02:43:38,720 --> 02:43:52,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Number two, it also entails na yung sasabihin ng tao is substantially relevant, meron siyang kahalagahan doon sa kaso, and it can be corroborated on most of its material points.

4381
02:43:52,720 --> 02:43:57,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So, lastly, hindi siya yung pinaka-guilty doon sa kaso.

4382
02:43:58,720 --> 02:44:08,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Sa usapin naman po nung pagsasoli, hindi po yan nakasaad sa ating batas. It's not categorically stated that there is restitution.

4383
02:44:08,720 --> 02:44:26,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: However, during po, kung halimbawa, after the evaluation at nakita na itong potential applicant is qualified, then ang mangyayari po is magkakaroon po sila ng kasunduan, a memorandum of agreement that will be signed between the applicant and the Secretary of Justice.

4384
02:44:26,720 --> 02:44:46,080
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Doon po, meron pong mga kondisyon o meron pong mga kasunduan na maaaring ilahad. At doon na po papasok yung usapin kung meron po tayong mga makukuha o meron silang isusoli bilang bahagi nung kanilang pag-a-apply po o pag-a-apply nila sa ating programa.

4385
02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:55,840
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: May madadagdag pa pa tayo, Sek? Siguro quickly, dahil marami nagtatanong pa rito sa flood control.

4386
02:44:56,720 --> 02:45:00,720
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa mga makakasuhan na mga contractors,

4387
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,580
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: congressmen, kasi po, pasensya na po, pero yung cong-tractors, marami rito, ito yung mga nagsimula ng modus eh.

4388
02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:14,180
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Inaantay natin kung kailan sila matutuloyan dahil ayaw natin maulit muli ito.

4389
02:45:20,800 --> 02:45:25,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Well, sir, yung tulad po na sinabi ni Secretary of Justice, marami hung variables eh.

4390
02:45:25,600 --> 02:45:29,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Kasi even during the time when the cases are already filed in court,

4391
02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:34,660
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: maari pong magpa-discharge pa rin ng isang akusado to become a state witness.

4392
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:39,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: And as a consequence, they are being admitted or asked to be admitted sa program.

4393
02:45:39,620 --> 02:45:44,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So yan po eh, depende sa kung ano po ang may dadagdag o may tutulong ng testimonya.

4394
02:45:45,300 --> 02:45:49,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Insofar as the other cases involving yung sa flood control,

4395
02:45:50,060 --> 02:45:53,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: alam ko po marami pa pong mga kaso, marami na hung kasong na-file.

4396
02:45:53,480 --> 02:45:58,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There are about 14 live cases which have been filed, referred to the Office of the Ombudsman.

4397
02:45:58,540 --> 02:45:59,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: At hinahawakan din po ng ating...

4398
02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:02,000
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: mga prosecutors sa Department of Justice.

4399
02:46:02,440 --> 02:46:06,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: But I believe that there are also cases which are being evaluated

4400
02:46:06,520 --> 02:46:11,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and continually being investigated by the National Bureau of Investigation.

4401
02:46:11,720 --> 02:46:16,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ito po ay patuloy dahil hindi po nagtatapos doon sa mga naisampang kaso lang.

4402
02:46:16,580 --> 02:46:20,440
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Patuloy po na nangangalap ng ebidensya din po ang National Bureau of Investigation

4403
02:46:20,440 --> 02:46:25,320
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: para matingnan po yung liability and who else can be held accountable.

4404
02:46:27,280 --> 02:46:28,380
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, thank you.

4405
02:46:28,880 --> 02:46:29,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At least you may mention.

4406
02:46:30,000 --> 02:46:35,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At that time also na yung mga most guilty, hindi dapat pwede silang maging kasama rito.

4407
02:46:37,320 --> 02:46:38,900
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair.

4408
02:46:40,580 --> 02:46:41,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

4409
02:46:41,260 --> 02:46:42,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I just have a few more questions.

4410
02:46:44,560 --> 02:46:47,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Doon sa usapin ng...

4411
02:46:48,420 --> 02:46:53,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, just to follow up on the questions on restitution.

4412
02:46:54,220 --> 02:46:56,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I remember during the flood control hearings,

4413
02:46:56,700 --> 02:46:58,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: si...

4414
02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:08,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yusek Bonoan testified as to the...

4415
02:47:08,960 --> 02:47:17,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: No, Bernardo. Yusek Bernardo testified as to the amounts that were turned over to Yusek,

4416
02:47:17,320 --> 02:47:19,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to Secretary Bonoan.

4417
02:47:23,120 --> 02:47:29,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And ang alam ko, mas malaki dito sa 1.841 million.

4418
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:33,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So far na restitute.

4419
02:47:34,060 --> 02:47:39,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How are you moving forward with that in that regard?

4420
02:47:39,600 --> 02:47:41,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean, how do you reconcile that?

4421
02:47:41,400 --> 02:47:45,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I know it's not in the law, but if there was a testimony to that effect,

4422
02:47:46,580 --> 02:47:56,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and under oath, and a figure was, how do you call it, identified,

4423
02:47:56,500 --> 02:48:00,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the context of the figures that you have restituted?

4424
02:48:01,160 --> 02:48:09,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, how do you decide that, okay, ito yung sinasabing dinilibre sa kanya, porsyento,

4425
02:48:10,640 --> 02:48:13,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 15% ba for every year? Can we get the data?

4426
02:48:13,400 --> 02:48:14,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

4427
02:48:15,640 --> 02:48:17,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 15% every year.

4428
02:48:17,440 --> 02:48:18,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So how much was that?

4429
02:48:19,820 --> 02:48:21,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Basta he gave a specific amount.

4430
02:48:22,680 --> 02:48:24,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 15% a year for three years?

4431
02:48:24,860 --> 02:48:25,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Like 15 days.

4432
02:48:26,500 --> 02:48:29,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

4433
02:48:30,160 --> 02:48:31,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 5 billion, okay.

4434
02:48:33,700 --> 02:48:34,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Every year, diba?

4435
02:48:35,280 --> 02:48:38,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 5 billion every year for three years was the testimony.

4436
02:48:39,120 --> 02:48:47,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 5 billion every year for three years was the testimony, of course, under oath.

4437
02:48:48,180 --> 02:48:51,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So if you have that data, and you have this amount,

4438
02:48:51,380 --> 02:48:54,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and you made him state witness,

4439
02:48:54,720 --> 02:49:03,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how do you reconcile the testimony of about 15 billion pesos received,

4440
02:49:04,320 --> 02:49:07,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: whether true or not, we don't, well, you know, we will have to assume that

4441
02:49:07,980 --> 02:49:13,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: he said it under oath unless there is proof to the contrary.

4442
02:49:14,740 --> 02:49:18,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How do you reconcile that as a matter of state policy?

4443
02:49:19,600 --> 02:49:21,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Mr. Chair, just a point of clarification.

4444
02:49:21,160 --> 02:49:24,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: You're referring to Secretary?

4445
02:49:24,720 --> 02:49:25,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Secretary Bonoan, sir?

4446
02:49:26,320 --> 02:49:29,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: My understanding, based on the testimony, because I was here,

4447
02:49:29,360 --> 02:49:32,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it was the testimony of Yusec Bernardo,

4448
02:49:32,760 --> 02:49:42,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who said that he turned over to Secretary Bonoan

4449
02:49:42,160 --> 02:49:48,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the amount of, yun na nga, every year for three years, 5 billion.

4450
02:49:48,960 --> 02:49:54,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So if his statement, unless rebutted, is evidence,

4451
02:49:54,720 --> 02:49:57,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then that's about 15 billion.

4452
02:49:57,360 --> 02:50:00,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Again, unless rebutted, no?

4453
02:50:00,360 --> 02:50:06,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But he is now a state witness.

4454
02:50:06,360 --> 02:50:08,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Both of them are state witnesses.

4455
02:50:08,360 --> 02:50:11,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So how do you, as a matter of state policy,

4456
02:50:11,360 --> 02:50:14,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: policy of the state, how do you reconcile that?

4457
02:50:14,360 --> 02:50:16,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Mr. Chair, if I may clarify,

4458
02:50:16,360 --> 02:50:22,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: insofar as the testimony of Undersecretary Bernardo,

4459
02:50:22,360 --> 02:50:24,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: relative to the amounts paid to,

4460
02:50:24,720 --> 02:50:29,120
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: or delivered to then Secretary Bonoan.

4461
02:50:29,120 --> 02:50:32,800
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: I believe this, insofar as the admission

4462
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:36,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: or the declaration of Secretary Bonoan

4463
02:50:36,040 --> 02:50:37,920
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: to be a state witness,

4464
02:50:37,920 --> 02:50:40,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the Department of Justice had nothing to do with that.

4465
02:50:40,360 --> 02:50:41,920
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: He was not processed

4466
02:50:41,920 --> 02:50:43,260
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and he was not an applicant

4467
02:50:43,260 --> 02:50:45,320
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: under the Witness Protection Program.

4468
02:50:45,320 --> 02:50:48,800
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So kinasuhan po, he was among those who was charged

4469
02:50:48,800 --> 02:50:51,320
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and I think when the case was filed

4470
02:50:51,320 --> 02:50:54,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: before the Office of the Sandigan Bayan, ah,

4471
02:50:54,520 --> 02:50:56,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Office of the Ombudsman, which then

4472
02:50:56,480 --> 02:50:58,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in turn filed it with the Sandigan

4473
02:50:58,720 --> 02:51:00,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Bayan, it was only then

4474
02:51:00,480 --> 02:51:02,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that it was decided that he would be

4475
02:51:02,420 --> 02:51:03,840
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: utilized as a state witness.

4476
02:51:04,400 --> 02:51:06,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: That is a matter which is not visible

4477
02:51:06,160 --> 02:51:08,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: to the department as to the conditions

4478
02:51:08,420 --> 02:51:10,680
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and if there is any

4479
02:51:10,680 --> 02:51:12,740
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: offer of any return in the computation.

4480
02:51:13,500 --> 02:51:14,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Now, we can

4481
02:51:14,720 --> 02:51:15,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: speak of

4482
02:51:15,560 --> 02:51:18,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the manner by which

4483
02:51:18,400 --> 02:51:20,440
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we make computations insofar

4484
02:51:20,440 --> 02:51:22,380
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: as witnesses who offer

4485
02:51:22,380 --> 02:51:24,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: to restitute or to return

4486
02:51:24,480 --> 02:51:25,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: people's money.

4487
02:51:25,860 --> 02:51:27,020
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Tulad po ng halimbawa,

4488
02:51:27,240 --> 02:51:29,640
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kung halimbawa yung

4489
02:51:29,640 --> 02:51:32,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: pagpalagay na natin si Sally Santos,

4490
02:51:33,100 --> 02:51:34,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we ask and we

4491
02:51:34,400 --> 02:51:36,380
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: inquire based on the statement that were

4492
02:51:36,380 --> 02:51:38,260
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: provided, for example, how many

4493
02:51:38,260 --> 02:51:40,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: government projects she was involved

4494
02:51:40,540 --> 02:51:42,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in and how much the percentage

4495
02:51:42,520 --> 02:51:44,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is that she's supposed to have

4496
02:51:44,300 --> 02:51:45,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: received per project.

4497
02:51:46,240 --> 02:51:47,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: And on the basis of the

4498
02:51:47,860 --> 02:51:50,460
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: declaration, and then we validate

4499
02:51:50,460 --> 02:51:51,940
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it also from the other

4500
02:51:51,940 --> 02:51:54,260
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: respondents, dun po namin

4501
02:51:54,260 --> 02:51:56,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kinukompute kung magkano yung

4502
02:51:56,220 --> 02:51:57,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sinasabi nilang, o,

4503
02:51:57,820 --> 02:51:58,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: magkano yung susoli ko.

4504
02:51:59,400 --> 02:52:01,400
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So, there is a basis, no?

4505
02:52:01,580 --> 02:52:04,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There is a basis for the computation.

4506
02:52:04,660 --> 02:52:06,060
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: It's not a number which is just

4507
02:52:06,060 --> 02:52:07,120
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: plucked out from the air, po.

4508
02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:09,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If I may add, Mr.

4509
02:52:09,820 --> 02:52:10,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead, Secretary.

4510
02:52:11,140 --> 02:52:13,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang maganda po dun sa agreement namin

4511
02:52:13,520 --> 02:52:15,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the four current state witnesses,

4512
02:52:16,040 --> 02:52:17,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it's project specific.

4513
02:52:18,240 --> 02:52:19,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, pag may nadiscovery pa ho

4514
02:52:19,920 --> 02:52:21,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang gobyerno o ang pamahalaan

4515
02:52:21,960 --> 02:52:24,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na sangkot pa siya sa

4516
02:52:24,100 --> 02:52:25,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ibang project, kumita pa siya,

4517
02:52:25,860 --> 02:52:27,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: hindi yun kasama.

4518
02:52:27,860 --> 02:52:29,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Specific lang po ito dun sa particular

4519
02:52:29,800 --> 02:52:32,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na proyekto na kung saan sinabi

4520
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:33,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: niya, kumita siya,

4521
02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:35,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pero inaamin niya na

4522
02:52:35,960 --> 02:52:37,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito ay maling paraan ng

4523
02:52:37,800 --> 02:52:40,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagkita, kaya ibinalik niya sa gobyerno.

4524
02:52:40,980 --> 02:52:42,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, but I think

4525
02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:43,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: even if this is

4526
02:52:43,240 --> 02:52:45,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: not with the DOJ, the government

4527
02:52:45,760 --> 02:52:48,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: has the obligation

4528
02:52:48,180 --> 02:52:49,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think, to clarify, no?

4529
02:52:50,400 --> 02:52:52,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And reconcile that.

4530
02:52:52,500 --> 02:52:54,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But as you said, this is

4531
02:52:54,100 --> 02:52:55,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the ombudsman's office

4532
02:52:55,560 --> 02:52:58,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rather than with the DOJ.

4533
02:52:59,000 --> 02:53:00,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because we'd like to know.

4534
02:53:00,900 --> 02:53:01,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We're interested.

4535
02:53:02,260 --> 02:53:04,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If 15 billion was

4536
02:53:04,120 --> 02:53:04,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in fact

4537
02:53:04,560 --> 02:53:07,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the amounts that were

4538
02:53:07,800 --> 02:53:09,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: spirited away,

4539
02:53:11,220 --> 02:53:16,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, how much was

4540
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:17,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: restituted, if any?

4541
02:53:18,220 --> 02:53:19,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi ba? Anyway,

4542
02:53:20,140 --> 02:53:21,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's something that

4543
02:53:21,640 --> 02:53:23,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: perhaps the

4544
02:53:23,540 --> 02:53:23,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

4545
02:53:24,100 --> 02:53:26,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: chairman of the finance committee can ask

4546
02:53:26,060 --> 02:53:26,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the ombudsman.

4547
02:53:27,620 --> 02:53:28,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or maybe in plenary.

4548
02:53:29,820 --> 02:53:31,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Anyway, we can proceed.

4549
02:53:33,020 --> 02:53:34,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: A few more

4550
02:53:34,300 --> 02:53:36,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: items lang. May we request

4551
02:53:36,080 --> 02:53:37,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a separate meeting before

4552
02:53:37,900 --> 02:53:38,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: plenary

4553
02:53:38,340 --> 02:53:41,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the secretary and the director

4554
02:53:41,680 --> 02:53:44,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on the issue of the smuggling

4555
02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:45,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of agriculture products.

4556
02:53:46,840 --> 02:53:48,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Like I said, I'm willing

4557
02:53:48,100 --> 02:53:49,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to meet you every day

4558
02:53:49,100 --> 02:53:51,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: just to get this thing going

4559
02:53:51,320 --> 02:53:52,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: moving forward.

4560
02:53:52,980 --> 02:53:53,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because we

4561
02:53:53,400 --> 02:53:55,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we are in the process of finalizing

4562
02:53:55,760 --> 02:53:57,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our committee report on the

4563
02:53:57,760 --> 02:53:59,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agriculture smuggling that we

4564
02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:01,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: had hearings that we had conducted

4565
02:54:01,760 --> 02:54:03,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on agriculture

4566
02:54:03,760 --> 02:54:05,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: smuggling.

4567
02:54:05,760 --> 02:54:07,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we'd like to get your inputs,

4568
02:54:07,760 --> 02:54:08,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary.

4569
02:54:08,260 --> 02:54:10,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor. We will make ourselves available

4570
02:54:10,260 --> 02:54:11,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for that meeting.

4571
02:54:11,260 --> 02:54:12,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, thank you.

4572
02:54:12,260 --> 02:54:14,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that I don't have to discuss that here.

4573
02:54:14,260 --> 02:54:16,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The other item is

4574
02:54:16,260 --> 02:54:18,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

4575
02:54:18,260 --> 02:54:20,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sagip Saka law.

4576
02:54:20,260 --> 02:54:22,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For the information,

4577
02:54:22,260 --> 02:54:24,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we already wrote to you officially,

4578
02:54:24,260 --> 02:54:28,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the information of our other

4579
02:54:28,260 --> 02:54:30,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: resource persons,

4580
02:54:30,260 --> 02:54:32,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Sagip

4581
02:54:32,260 --> 02:54:34,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Saka Act

4582
02:54:34,260 --> 02:54:36,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: allows for government

4583
02:54:36,260 --> 02:54:38,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: entities, both national and local,

4584
02:54:38,260 --> 02:54:40,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to purchase directly from farmers

4585
02:54:40,260 --> 02:54:42,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and fisherfolk organizations,

4586
02:54:42,260 --> 02:54:44,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: accredited

4587
02:54:44,260 --> 02:54:46,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: food

4588
02:54:46,260 --> 02:54:48,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and agriculture products for

4589
02:54:48,260 --> 02:54:50,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the different programs without

4590
02:54:50,260 --> 02:54:52,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: being exempted from the law.

4591
02:54:52,260 --> 02:54:54,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For example,

4592
02:54:54,260 --> 02:54:56,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the

4593
02:54:56,260 --> 02:54:58,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the BJMP

4594
02:55:02,260 --> 02:55:04,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: has purchased about

4595
02:55:04,260 --> 02:55:06,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 591 million

4596
02:55:06,260 --> 02:55:08,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 591 million worth of food

4597
02:55:08,260 --> 02:55:10,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directly

4598
02:55:10,260 --> 02:55:12,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from farmers and fisherfolk.

4599
02:55:12,260 --> 02:55:14,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact, one

4600
02:55:14,260 --> 02:55:16,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers organization in

4601
02:55:16,260 --> 02:55:18,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: San Luis,

4602
02:55:18,260 --> 02:55:20,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pampanga, sold

4603
02:55:20,260 --> 02:55:21,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to 13

4604
02:55:22,260 --> 02:55:24,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: million pesos worth of agriculture products

4605
02:55:24,260 --> 02:55:26,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to the jails.

4606
02:55:26,260 --> 02:55:28,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Both in Region 3 and NCR.

4607
02:55:28,260 --> 02:55:30,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry, not 13, 7.

4608
02:55:30,260 --> 02:55:32,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And in that

4609
02:55:32,260 --> 02:55:34,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: year, they sold

4610
02:55:34,260 --> 02:55:36,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 13 million pesos worth of agriculture products

4611
02:55:36,260 --> 02:55:38,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to the jails.

4612
02:55:38,260 --> 02:55:40,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And

4613
02:55:40,260 --> 02:55:42,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directly, wala ng public bidding.

4614
02:55:42,260 --> 02:55:44,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And

4615
02:55:44,260 --> 02:55:46,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi nung BJMP,

4616
02:55:46,260 --> 02:55:48,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi tulad dati nung hindi sila bumibili

4617
02:55:48,260 --> 02:55:50,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: direkta sa mga

4618
02:55:50,260 --> 02:55:52,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa mga magsasaka,

4619
02:55:52,260 --> 02:55:54,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: parang

4620
02:55:54,260 --> 02:55:56,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano yan?

4621
02:55:56,260 --> 02:55:58,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The term was kanin-baboy.

4622
02:55:58,260 --> 02:56:00,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Parang kanin-baboy yung hinahain

4623
02:56:00,260 --> 02:56:02,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na pagkain sa mga

4624
02:56:02,260 --> 02:56:04,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nasa persons with

4625
02:56:04,260 --> 02:56:06,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: deprived of

4626
02:56:06,260 --> 02:56:08,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: liberties, yung mga PDL.

4627
02:56:08,260 --> 02:56:10,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But because

4628
02:56:10,260 --> 02:56:12,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bumili na sila direkta sa farmers,

4629
02:56:12,260 --> 02:56:14,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 13 million

4630
02:56:14,260 --> 02:56:16,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pesos ang kinita nung

4631
02:56:16,260 --> 02:56:18,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: isang farmers association,

4632
02:56:18,260 --> 02:56:20,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos masarap pa yung pagkain

4633
02:56:20,260 --> 02:56:22,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at sariwa. So that's

4634
02:56:22,260 --> 02:56:24,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: one farmers organization.

4635
02:56:24,260 --> 02:56:26,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the amount

4636
02:56:26,260 --> 02:56:28,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: was 590 million.

4637
02:56:28,260 --> 02:56:30,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It also goes back to the local

4638
02:56:30,260 --> 02:56:32,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: economy.

4639
02:56:32,260 --> 02:56:34,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So the local retail,

4640
02:56:34,260 --> 02:56:36,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga sari-sari store,

4641
02:56:36,260 --> 02:56:38,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga jeep, mga tricycle,

4642
02:56:38,260 --> 02:56:40,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga retail store sa lugar,

4643
02:56:40,260 --> 02:56:42,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bumabalik yung pera, may panggastos.

4644
02:56:42,260 --> 02:56:44,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So we'd

4645
02:56:44,260 --> 02:56:46,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: like to know,

4646
02:56:46,260 --> 02:56:48,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I understand the

4647
02:56:48,260 --> 02:56:50,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: BuCor has about 2 billion pesos

4648
02:56:50,260 --> 02:56:52,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worth of food purchases.

4649
02:56:52,260 --> 02:56:54,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi naman natin ilalahat,

4650
02:56:54,260 --> 02:56:56,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but at least a portion

4651
02:56:56,260 --> 02:56:58,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of that should be

4652
02:56:58,260 --> 02:57:00,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: allocated

4653
02:57:00,260 --> 02:57:02,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to purchase rice

4654
02:57:02,260 --> 02:57:04,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: perhaps or other

4655
02:57:04,260 --> 02:57:06,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agriculture products or food items

4656
02:57:06,260 --> 02:57:08,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa ating mga magsasaka at

4657
02:57:08,260 --> 02:57:10,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mangingisda. The Quezon City

4658
02:57:10,260 --> 02:57:12,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Government, also because of the

4659
02:57:12,260 --> 02:57:14,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sagipsaka Act,

4660
02:57:14,260 --> 02:57:16,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung kanilang rice subsidy,

4661
02:57:16,260 --> 02:57:18,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they purchased about

4662
02:57:18,260 --> 02:57:20,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 500 million pesos worth of rice

4663
02:57:20,260 --> 02:57:22,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directly sa mga

4664
02:57:22,260 --> 02:57:24,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers associations under

4665
02:57:24,260 --> 02:57:26,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Irrigators Association Network

4666
02:57:26,260 --> 02:57:28,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the NIA.

4667
02:57:28,260 --> 02:57:30,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So direkta yun.

4668
02:57:30,260 --> 02:57:32,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact,

4669
02:57:32,260 --> 02:57:34,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Quezon City Government,

4670
02:57:34,260 --> 02:57:36,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if they went through the regular

4671
02:57:36,260 --> 02:57:38,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bidding process, would have

4672
02:57:38,260 --> 02:57:40,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bought per kilo

4673
02:57:40,260 --> 02:57:42,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of rice about

4674
02:57:42,260 --> 02:57:44,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 65 pesos.

4675
02:57:44,260 --> 02:57:46,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But they bought it at 55

4676
02:57:46,260 --> 02:57:48,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pesos directly wholesale.

4677
02:57:48,260 --> 02:57:50,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa mga farmers.

4678
02:57:50,260 --> 02:57:52,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the total amount that they were

4679
02:57:52,260 --> 02:57:54,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: able to save was

4680
02:57:54,260 --> 02:57:56,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: had they, if they

4681
02:57:56,260 --> 02:57:58,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bought it from the bidding process,

4682
02:57:58,260 --> 02:58:00,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: would have been additional 200

4683
02:58:00,260 --> 02:58:02,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: million pesos.

4684
02:58:02,260 --> 02:58:04,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So malaki

4685
02:58:04,260 --> 02:58:06,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang epekto at direkta

4686
02:58:06,260 --> 02:58:08,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa ating mga magsasaka.

4687
02:58:08,260 --> 02:58:10,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, Bucor

4688
02:58:10,260 --> 02:58:12,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: has 2 billion.

4689
02:58:12,260 --> 02:58:14,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Baka you can put in place a

4690
02:58:14,260 --> 02:58:16,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: program similar to what

4691
02:58:16,260 --> 02:58:18,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the BJMP is doing.

4692
02:58:18,260 --> 02:58:20,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I know it's a little more complicated

4693
02:58:20,260 --> 02:58:22,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because mas nasyonal,

4694
02:58:22,260 --> 02:58:24,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: malaki, BJMP is more

4695
02:58:24,260 --> 02:58:26,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: decentralized. But

4696
02:58:26,260 --> 02:58:28,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: would you care to comment,

4697
02:58:28,260 --> 02:58:30,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary Vida and

4698
02:58:30,260 --> 02:58:32,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: General Greg?

4699
02:58:32,260 --> 02:58:34,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, thank you very much, Your Honor.

4700
02:58:34,260 --> 02:58:36,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We do acknowledge the benefit

4701
02:58:36,260 --> 02:58:38,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for everyone, all sectors,

4702
02:58:38,260 --> 02:58:40,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: farmers natin, especially

4703
02:58:40,260 --> 02:58:42,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung procurement namin, mas magiging

4704
02:58:42,260 --> 02:58:44,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: madali. And we also acknowledge

4705
02:58:44,260 --> 02:58:46,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the

4706
02:58:46,260 --> 02:58:48,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mandate under our Republic Act

4707
02:58:48,260 --> 02:58:50,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: number 11321.

4708
02:58:50,260 --> 02:58:52,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pursuant to it,

4709
02:58:52,260 --> 02:58:54,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Executive Order 101

4710
02:58:54,260 --> 02:58:56,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: was also issued, series of 2025.

4711
02:58:56,260 --> 02:58:58,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And also our

4712
02:58:58,260 --> 02:59:00,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: GPPB, circular, number

4713
02:59:00,260 --> 02:59:02,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 02-2025.

4714
02:59:02,260 --> 02:59:04,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Given this, the Office

4715
02:59:04,260 --> 02:59:06,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the Secretary has already

4716
02:59:06,260 --> 02:59:08,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: requested all the

4717
02:59:08,260 --> 02:59:10,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: attached agencies to submit

4718
02:59:10,260 --> 02:59:12,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: all

4719
02:59:12,260 --> 02:59:14,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: purchases, all projects related

4720
02:59:14,260 --> 02:59:16,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to this. But to make this

4721
02:59:16,260 --> 02:59:18,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: permanent, to make

4722
02:59:18,260 --> 02:59:20,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it scalable,

4723
02:59:20,260 --> 02:59:22,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and to be a continuing

4724
02:59:22,260 --> 02:59:24,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: effort of the DOJ family,

4725
02:59:24,260 --> 02:59:26,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Office of the

4726
02:59:26,260 --> 02:59:28,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Secretary will be issuing

4727
02:59:28,260 --> 02:59:30,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: soon, subject to

4728
02:59:30,260 --> 02:59:32,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: legal scrubbing and vetting,

4729
02:59:32,260 --> 02:59:34,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: a department circular, which will

4730
02:59:34,260 --> 02:59:36,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: give guidelines on the

4731
02:59:36,260 --> 02:59:38,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: implementation of the

4732
02:59:38,260 --> 02:59:40,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: provisions of the Sagib-Saka Act.

4733
02:59:40,260 --> 02:59:42,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Basically, at ang

4734
02:59:42,260 --> 02:59:44,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: critical dito, Your Honor, is

4735
02:59:44,260 --> 02:59:46,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: coming up with an annual report

4736
02:59:46,260 --> 02:59:48,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that we can guide

4737
02:59:48,260 --> 02:59:50,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: you. We also check

4738
02:59:50,260 --> 02:59:52,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ourselves, we also

4739
02:59:52,260 --> 02:59:54,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: will be able to give that report

4740
02:59:54,260 --> 02:59:56,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to Your Honor and to the Senate

4741
02:59:56,260 --> 02:59:58,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that we get a monitoring

4742
02:59:58,260 --> 03:00:00,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and see the real benefit.

4743
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:01,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the provisions

4744
03:00:01,720 --> 03:00:03,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of Sagip Saka Act, Your Honor.

4745
03:00:04,240 --> 03:00:05,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

4746
03:00:05,340 --> 03:00:06,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Subject to that submission.

4747
03:00:09,640 --> 03:00:11,640
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: With the permission of our

4748
03:00:11,640 --> 03:00:13,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary. Yes, Secretary

4749
03:00:13,180 --> 03:00:14,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Greg Tuloy.

4750
03:00:15,920 --> 03:00:17,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Tuloy.

4751
03:00:18,340 --> 03:00:19,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: General. Yes, sir.

4752
03:00:20,400 --> 03:00:21,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Greg, go ahead.

4753
03:00:22,880 --> 03:00:23,860
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: On the part

4754
03:00:23,860 --> 03:00:25,740
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of Bucor, we bid

4755
03:00:25,740 --> 03:00:27,180
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: out the food

4756
03:00:27,180 --> 03:00:29,580
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: amounting to 100

4757
03:00:29,580 --> 03:00:31,060
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pesos per day.

4758
03:00:32,060 --> 03:00:33,740
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: But the bidding process

4759
03:00:33,740 --> 03:00:34,960
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: will require

4760
03:00:34,960 --> 03:00:35,780
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: the

4761
03:00:35,780 --> 03:00:39,660
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: one who is the winning bidder

4762
03:00:39,660 --> 03:00:41,680
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: to buy, procure, acquire

4763
03:00:41,680 --> 03:00:43,600
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: farm products from the local

4764
03:00:43,600 --> 03:00:45,620
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: farmer cooperatives of the

4765
03:00:45,620 --> 03:00:47,680
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: OPPFs. And also

4766
03:00:47,680 --> 03:00:49,320
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: we'd like to inform our

4767
03:00:49,320 --> 03:00:51,080
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: good Senator that our

4768
03:00:51,080 --> 03:00:53,380
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDLs are also farmers.

4769
03:00:53,380 --> 03:00:54,880
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: We have about

4770
03:00:54,880 --> 03:00:56,860
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 32,000 hectares of

4771
03:00:56,860 --> 03:00:59,440
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: farmland. That's why we call

4772
03:00:59,440 --> 03:01:01,020
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: our OPPFs

4773
03:01:01,020 --> 03:01:03,400
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: operating prison and

4774
03:01:03,400 --> 03:01:04,520
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: penal farms. So

4775
03:01:04,520 --> 03:01:06,460
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: all over the

4776
03:01:06,460 --> 03:01:09,420
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: colonies that we have, we have

4777
03:01:09,420 --> 03:01:11,480
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: penal farms. We also produce our

4778
03:01:11,480 --> 03:01:13,380
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: own food. And hopefully

4779
03:01:13,380 --> 03:01:15,320
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: in the future, it will be the

4780
03:01:15,320 --> 03:01:16,600
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDLs who will

4781
03:01:16,600 --> 03:01:19,140
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: provide food for them.

4782
03:01:20,140 --> 03:01:21,180
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Para po, mas

4783
03:01:21,180 --> 03:01:23,260
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: masustansya ang kanilang

4784
03:01:23,260 --> 03:01:24,840
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pagkain. But the local

4785
03:01:24,840 --> 03:01:27,420
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: in fact, we have

4786
03:01:27,420 --> 03:01:29,360
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: already a joint venture with the Department

4787
03:01:29,360 --> 03:01:31,460
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of Agriculture. Yes, yes.

4788
03:01:31,780 --> 03:01:33,420
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya so kuminsang may sobra pa po

4789
03:01:33,420 --> 03:01:35,400
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kaming pagkain. Meron po

4790
03:01:35,400 --> 03:01:37,180
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kaming weekly na

4791
03:01:37,180 --> 03:01:39,800
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: bilihan ng

4792
03:01:39,800 --> 03:01:41,380
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: bayan. Mura yung pagkain.

4793
03:01:41,700 --> 03:01:43,480
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nakakatulong po kami. We want to be part

4794
03:01:43,480 --> 03:01:44,540
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of the food security

4795
03:01:44,540 --> 03:01:47,340
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of our country, yung mga PDLs.

4796
03:01:47,420 --> 03:01:48,540
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Because they have the

4797
03:01:48,540 --> 03:01:51,380
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: know-how and they are there

4798
03:01:51,380 --> 03:01:53,320
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: in the farms and they can produce food

4799
03:01:53,320 --> 03:01:55,400
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: for our country. Baka naman

4800
03:01:55,400 --> 03:01:57,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: once they have completed the

4801
03:01:57,300 --> 03:01:59,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: service of their sentence, hindi na sila aalik.

4802
03:01:59,360 --> 03:02:00,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil

4803
03:02:00,420 --> 03:02:03,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron na silang

4804
03:02:03,460 --> 03:02:05,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pagsasakahan.

4805
03:02:06,060 --> 03:02:07,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway, can you

4806
03:02:07,280 --> 03:02:08,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: submit to us the

4807
03:02:08,860 --> 03:02:11,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: documentation? Because

4808
03:02:11,300 --> 03:02:12,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we'd like to see, no?

4809
03:02:13,100 --> 03:02:14,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We're trying to document

4810
03:02:14,380 --> 03:02:16,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for example,

4811
03:02:17,520 --> 03:02:18,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: magkana yung total na sila?

4812
03:02:19,020 --> 03:02:19,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 11 billion.

4813
03:02:19,660 --> 03:02:21,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

4814
03:02:21,440 --> 03:02:22,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

4815
03:02:23,220 --> 03:02:25,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because, what year is that?

4816
03:02:25,640 --> 03:02:27,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...

4817
03:02:27,580 --> 03:02:29,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: As of September 2026.

4818
03:02:29,360 --> 03:02:31,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Based on the data that has been

4819
03:02:31,100 --> 03:02:33,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: forwarded to us, about 11.6

4820
03:02:33,760 --> 03:02:35,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: billion pesos worth of

4821
03:02:35,400 --> 03:02:37,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agri-products has been purchased

4822
03:02:37,420 --> 03:02:39,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by the national and local governments

4823
03:02:39,520 --> 03:02:41,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa ating farmers and fisher folk

4824
03:02:41,600 --> 03:02:43,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: directly because of

4825
03:02:43,560 --> 03:02:45,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: this law. But the data

4826
03:02:45,440 --> 03:02:47,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: given us by DBM,

4827
03:02:47,860 --> 03:02:49,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: their estimate is about

4828
03:02:49,640 --> 03:02:51,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 170 plus

4829
03:02:51,560 --> 03:02:53,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: billion pesos

4830
03:02:53,660 --> 03:02:55,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worth of food is purchased

4831
03:02:55,800 --> 03:02:57,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by the entire

4832
03:02:57,360 --> 03:02:57,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: government.

4833
03:02:59,360 --> 03:03:00,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Every year.

4834
03:03:01,460 --> 03:03:03,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, if you think about it,

4835
03:03:04,420 --> 03:03:05,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the realm of

4836
03:03:05,800 --> 03:03:07,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what is possible,

4837
03:03:08,060 --> 03:03:09,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wala na dapat magsasaka at

4838
03:03:09,560 --> 03:03:11,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mangingisda na mahirap.

4839
03:03:12,180 --> 03:03:13,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil gobyerno pa lang,

4840
03:03:14,780 --> 03:03:15,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi na silang mawawalan

4841
03:03:15,980 --> 03:03:17,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng pagbibentahan.

4842
03:03:17,900 --> 03:03:19,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, and critical for

4843
03:03:19,640 --> 03:03:21,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: our farmers is

4844
03:03:21,680 --> 03:03:23,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that the produce is

4845
03:03:23,880 --> 03:03:25,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: purchased at the right

4846
03:03:25,800 --> 03:03:27,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: price. Hindi yung

4847
03:03:27,540 --> 03:03:28,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: binabarat sila.

4848
03:03:29,360 --> 03:03:31,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bigos ang nangyayari. Dahil sila

4849
03:03:31,120 --> 03:03:31,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: binabarat,

4850
03:03:33,000 --> 03:03:35,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pinabubulok na lang yung mga kamatis

4851
03:03:35,100 --> 03:03:37,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil wala naman

4852
03:03:37,900 --> 03:03:39,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bibili na lang ng apat na piso

4853
03:03:39,580 --> 03:03:40,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: isang kilo,

4854
03:03:41,620 --> 03:03:43,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: eh pag kumuha pa sila ng labor

4855
03:03:43,180 --> 03:03:45,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para anihin,

4856
03:03:45,680 --> 03:03:47,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: gagasos pa sila ng labor,

4857
03:03:48,300 --> 03:03:49,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos 4 pesos,

4858
03:03:49,420 --> 03:03:50,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: eh pabubulokin na lang nila.

4859
03:03:51,420 --> 03:03:53,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil lugi na sila.

4860
03:03:53,820 --> 03:03:55,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero kung nandyan ang gobyerno

4861
03:03:55,280 --> 03:03:57,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na bibili direkta sa kanila,

4862
03:03:57,080 --> 03:03:59,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ay malaking bagay.

4863
03:03:59,360 --> 03:04:01,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi lang sila, hindi magtatanim

4864
03:04:01,560 --> 03:04:03,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para sa pang-araw-araw,

4865
03:04:03,980 --> 03:04:05,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: magtatanim sila at mag-aarkila

4866
03:04:05,980 --> 03:04:06,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pa siguro ng

4867
03:04:06,860 --> 03:04:09,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: equipment o kaya bibili

4868
03:04:09,320 --> 03:04:11,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o kaya mapapautang,

4869
03:04:12,020 --> 03:04:12,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: magdadagdag ng

4870
03:04:12,920 --> 03:04:15,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: trabahante, kasi may market

4871
03:04:15,640 --> 03:04:17,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sila na bibilin sa tamang

4872
03:04:17,440 --> 03:04:17,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: presyo.

4873
03:04:19,360 --> 03:04:21,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And for all of us, actually,

4874
03:04:21,820 --> 03:04:23,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we did a study,

4875
03:04:24,280 --> 03:04:25,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the cost of bringing

4876
03:04:25,560 --> 03:04:27,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: vegetables

4877
03:04:27,760 --> 03:04:29,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from Baguio,

4878
03:04:29,360 --> 03:04:30,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to Manila,

4879
03:04:30,900 --> 03:04:33,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is about, today, about 10 pesos

4880
03:04:33,440 --> 03:04:34,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: per kilo.

4881
03:04:35,100 --> 03:04:36,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because of, in other words,

4882
03:04:37,060 --> 03:04:39,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if you buy it, binibenta noon

4883
03:04:39,180 --> 03:04:40,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng 4,

4884
03:04:40,700 --> 03:04:42,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 4 na piso, 1 kilo,

4885
03:04:42,820 --> 03:04:44,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang kamatis last year,

4886
03:04:45,640 --> 03:04:47,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag dinagdagan mo ng 10 piso,

4887
03:04:47,380 --> 03:04:49,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dapat yung kamatis dito

4888
03:04:49,240 --> 03:04:50,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa Manila,

4889
03:04:51,180 --> 03:04:53,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: eh 15 pesos per kilo.

4890
03:04:53,840 --> 03:04:55,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dagdagan mo na lang ng

4891
03:04:55,080 --> 03:04:57,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng doble,

4892
03:04:57,420 --> 03:04:59,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: eh 30 pesos sa kilo

4893
03:04:59,040 --> 03:05:00,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para meron kang kita.

4894
03:05:01,300 --> 03:05:03,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero, at the same time,

4895
03:05:03,320 --> 03:05:05,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang bentahan ng kamatis dito sa Metro

4896
03:05:05,440 --> 03:05:07,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Manila was 90 pesos sa kilo.

4897
03:05:08,200 --> 03:05:09,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In other words,

4898
03:05:10,480 --> 03:05:11,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: merong

4899
03:05:11,060 --> 03:05:13,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 60 pesos margin.

4900
03:05:14,800 --> 03:05:15,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Diba?

4901
03:05:16,040 --> 03:05:17,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Malaki ang pera

4902
03:05:17,120 --> 03:05:19,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa agrikultura.

4903
03:05:20,180 --> 03:05:21,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Malaki ang problema

4904
03:05:21,380 --> 03:05:23,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na mahal

4905
03:05:23,580 --> 03:05:25,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang pagkain. May kumikita

4906
03:05:25,500 --> 03:05:27,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng limpak-limpak

4907
03:05:27,380 --> 03:05:27,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na salapi,

4908
03:05:27,940 --> 03:05:30,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: habang ginugutom

4909
03:05:30,440 --> 03:05:31,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang magsasaka, at

4910
03:05:31,760 --> 03:05:34,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tayong lahat ay nagbabayad

4911
03:05:34,080 --> 03:05:35,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng doble hanggang triple

4912
03:05:35,820 --> 03:05:37,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa presyo ng pagkain.

4913
03:05:38,820 --> 03:05:39,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, anyway,

4914
03:05:39,960 --> 03:05:42,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and one way of doing that

4915
03:05:42,700 --> 03:05:44,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is providing them the necessary

4916
03:05:44,500 --> 03:05:46,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: access to the markets para

4917
03:05:46,040 --> 03:05:48,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: gumanda ang kanilang kita, magtanim pa sila,

4918
03:05:49,580 --> 03:05:51,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: gumanda ang supply ng pagkain,

4919
03:05:51,260 --> 03:05:52,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pag maganda na ang supply ng pagkain,

4920
03:05:52,980 --> 03:05:54,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bababa ang presyo ng pagkain.

4921
03:05:54,680 --> 03:05:56,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Lahat tayo makikinabang.

4922
03:05:57,000 --> 03:05:57,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And finally,

4923
03:05:57,940 --> 03:06:00,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so we will request for the

4924
03:06:00,740 --> 03:06:01,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: submission

4925
03:06:01,200 --> 03:06:04,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of this, of your

4926
03:06:04,580 --> 03:06:06,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: program, and we will

4927
03:06:06,900 --> 03:06:07,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: look at how much

4928
03:06:07,820 --> 03:06:10,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of your budget actually goes to

4929
03:06:10,760 --> 03:06:12,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: farmers and fisher folk. Kasi baka

4930
03:06:12,800 --> 03:06:14,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nga, bidding yan.

4931
03:06:15,060 --> 03:06:16,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean, pag-aralan ninyo, baka kasi

4932
03:06:16,800 --> 03:06:18,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pwedeng, a portion of it

4933
03:06:18,900 --> 03:06:20,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is bid out, while

4934
03:06:20,620 --> 03:06:22,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a portion of it is a direct purchase

4935
03:06:22,720 --> 03:06:23,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by the,

4936
03:06:23,360 --> 03:06:25,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: by, diba?

4937
03:06:26,060 --> 03:06:27,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: By the BuCor,

4938
03:06:27,940 --> 03:06:30,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or, in other words, hybrid siya.

4939
03:06:31,680 --> 03:06:32,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And,

4940
03:06:32,820 --> 03:06:34,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you will have a lot of LGUs.

4941
03:06:35,400 --> 03:06:36,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Lalo na, Nueva Ecija,

4942
03:06:37,040 --> 03:06:37,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tardlac,

4943
03:06:38,280 --> 03:06:40,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pangasinan,

4944
03:06:40,680 --> 03:06:41,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na pwedeng direktang

4945
03:06:41,720 --> 03:06:44,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: makipag-ugnayan sa inyo para yung farmers

4946
03:06:44,540 --> 03:06:46,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: group sila, sa inyo na, de-direcho.

4947
03:06:46,980 --> 03:06:47,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sariwa pa.

4948
03:06:48,360 --> 03:06:48,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know, nung

4949
03:06:48,860 --> 03:06:52,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dumirekta ang Isabela

4950
03:06:52,860 --> 03:06:54,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at dineliver sa mga LGUs

4951
03:06:54,740 --> 03:06:56,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa Metro Manila

4952
03:06:56,700 --> 03:06:57,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung kanilang bigas,

4953
03:06:57,940 --> 03:07:00,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang tawag doon, Isabela Rice,

4954
03:07:00,160 --> 03:07:00,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mabango.

4955
03:07:01,820 --> 03:07:02,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Diba?

4956
03:07:02,220 --> 03:07:04,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Iyon yung pinagbigay na ayuda

4957
03:07:04,080 --> 03:07:04,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: during COVID.

4958
03:07:05,720 --> 03:07:07,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: After that, ayaw na nila nung

4959
03:07:07,140 --> 03:07:08,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: NFA Rice eh.

4960
03:07:08,680 --> 03:07:10,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi, ang bango-bango daw nung

4961
03:07:10,380 --> 03:07:12,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Isabela Rice, tsaka malagkit pa.

4962
03:07:13,120 --> 03:07:14,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we all benefit from

4963
03:07:14,900 --> 03:07:17,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: supply chains that are seamless.

4964
03:07:18,420 --> 03:07:19,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And finally,

4965
03:07:20,780 --> 03:07:21,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: actually,

4966
03:07:21,720 --> 03:07:22,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: two more points.

4967
03:07:23,220 --> 03:07:25,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We'd like to clarify

4968
03:07:25,060 --> 03:07:26,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your conviction and,

4969
03:07:26,860 --> 03:07:27,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: well,

4970
03:07:27,940 --> 03:07:29,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your case,

4971
03:07:31,160 --> 03:07:32,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your conviction rates,

4972
03:07:32,380 --> 03:07:33,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or success.

4973
03:07:33,940 --> 03:07:36,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi, based on your data,

4974
03:07:37,200 --> 03:07:38,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 90 plus percent,

4975
03:07:38,820 --> 03:07:40,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what is the term?

4976
03:07:40,120 --> 03:07:44,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is the term?

4977
03:07:46,440 --> 03:07:47,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Success rate.

4978
03:07:48,320 --> 03:07:50,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But success rate is not

4979
03:07:50,000 --> 03:07:50,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: conviction rate.

4980
03:07:51,980 --> 03:07:53,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: These are two different

4981
03:07:53,660 --> 03:07:55,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: numbers.

4982
03:07:55,320 --> 03:07:59,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: My understanding is,

4983
03:07:59,320 --> 03:08:01,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your prosecution success rate

4984
03:08:01,260 --> 03:08:02,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so far

4985
03:08:02,520 --> 03:08:04,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in 2026 is

4986
03:08:04,980 --> 03:08:06,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 91 percent.

4987
03:08:07,180 --> 03:08:09,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But your conviction rate

4988
03:08:09,320 --> 03:08:10,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is 59 percent.

4989
03:08:12,260 --> 03:08:13,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The year before,

4990
03:08:14,040 --> 03:08:16,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2025, your success rate

4991
03:08:16,160 --> 03:08:17,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: prosecution

4992
03:08:17,080 --> 03:08:22,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: was 90.8 percent,

4993
03:08:22,060 --> 03:08:23,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but your conviction rate was

4994
03:08:23,860 --> 03:08:25,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 44.7%.

4995
03:08:25,320 --> 03:08:28,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, what is the

4996
03:08:28,380 --> 03:08:29,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: international standard

4997
03:08:29,500 --> 03:08:31,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of conviction rates?

4998
03:08:32,100 --> 03:08:33,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because if this is correct,

4999
03:08:35,240 --> 03:08:35,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then,

5000
03:08:35,740 --> 03:08:38,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you're only convicting

5001
03:08:38,080 --> 03:08:39,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: less than 50 percent

5002
03:08:39,660 --> 03:08:41,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the cases that are

5003
03:08:41,520 --> 03:08:42,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: prosecuted.

5004
03:08:42,540 --> 03:08:43,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tama ba yun?

5005
03:08:45,000 --> 03:08:45,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

5006
03:08:46,960 --> 03:08:48,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we'd like to,

5007
03:08:48,880 --> 03:08:49,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know,

5008
03:08:49,300 --> 03:08:50,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if that's correct,

5009
03:08:50,560 --> 03:08:51,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then, how,

5010
03:08:51,640 --> 03:08:52,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my question is,

5011
03:08:52,400 --> 03:08:53,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how do we increase

5012
03:08:53,220 --> 03:08:54,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the conviction rates?

5013
03:08:54,680 --> 03:08:55,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because the international

5014
03:08:55,300 --> 03:08:55,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: standard,

5015
03:08:56,100 --> 03:08:56,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if I'm not mistaken,

5016
03:08:57,040 --> 03:08:57,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is about 80.

5017
03:08:58,520 --> 03:08:59,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 80 percent

5018
03:08:59,440 --> 03:09:01,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to 90 percent.

5019
03:09:01,860 --> 03:09:03,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa Japan ata,

5020
03:09:03,100 --> 03:09:03,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 90 percent

5021
03:09:03,920 --> 03:09:05,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang conviction rate nila.

5022
03:09:07,100 --> 03:09:07,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course,

5023
03:09:07,780 --> 03:09:08,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we need to get,

5024
03:09:08,680 --> 03:09:09,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: validate that data,

5025
03:09:09,700 --> 03:09:11,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but this is taken from

5026
03:09:11,260 --> 03:09:12,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: chat GPT

5027
03:09:12,720 --> 03:09:13,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or AI.

5028
03:09:14,080 --> 03:09:15,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we have to validate that.

5029
03:09:16,660 --> 03:09:17,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But mataas,

5030
03:09:17,540 --> 03:09:18,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 70 percent,

5031
03:09:18,480 --> 03:09:19,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 80 percent conviction rates.

5032
03:09:20,100 --> 03:09:20,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This is conviction.

5033
03:09:21,440 --> 03:09:23,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, could you clarify that?

5034
03:09:23,740 --> 03:09:24,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we'd like to know,

5035
03:09:24,940 --> 03:09:25,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if that's the case,

5036
03:09:25,280 --> 03:09:25,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if that is true,

5037
03:09:25,820 --> 03:09:27,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that it's 44 percent.

5038
03:09:28,060 --> 03:09:29,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We'd like to see

5039
03:09:29,140 --> 03:09:30,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: improvement

5040
03:09:30,360 --> 03:09:33,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in that regard.

5041
03:09:33,460 --> 03:09:33,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And,

5042
03:09:33,820 --> 03:09:35,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if you agree with me,

5043
03:09:35,640 --> 03:09:37,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that it needs improvement,

5044
03:09:38,080 --> 03:09:38,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what do you intend,

5045
03:09:38,720 --> 03:09:39,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how do you intend

5046
03:09:39,360 --> 03:09:40,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to go about it?

5047
03:09:43,880 --> 03:09:44,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, while you're going

5048
03:09:44,980 --> 03:09:45,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: through that,

5049
03:09:45,960 --> 03:09:46,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yusek,

5050
03:09:46,620 --> 03:09:47,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Marco,

5051
03:09:47,420 --> 03:09:48,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: do you have the provision

5052
03:09:48,440 --> 03:09:49,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that we requested?

5053
03:09:51,760 --> 03:09:52,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, Your Honor.

5054
03:09:52,720 --> 03:09:53,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What does the local

5055
03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:53,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: government code say?

5056
03:09:54,180 --> 03:09:55,080
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: The local government code

5057
03:09:55,080 --> 03:09:57,080
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: in particular section 17

5058
03:09:57,080 --> 03:09:59,080
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: requires the local government units

5059
03:09:59,080 --> 03:10:00,660
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: to endeavor to be self-reliant

5060
03:10:00,660 --> 03:10:01,620
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: and it provides for,

5061
03:10:02,620 --> 03:10:04,160
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: it should provide basic services

5062
03:10:04,160 --> 03:10:08,320
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: enumerated under section 17 letter,

5063
03:10:09,320 --> 03:10:10,720
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: let number three,

5064
03:10:10,720 --> 03:10:12,220
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: sub-item six.

5065
03:10:12,220 --> 03:10:14,620
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: It provides for provincial buildings

5066
03:10:14,620 --> 03:10:16,300
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: and provincial jails,

5067
03:10:16,300 --> 03:10:16,720
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Your Honor.

5068
03:10:16,720 --> 03:10:18,200
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: So, that requires,

5069
03:10:18,200 --> 03:10:19,580
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: the local government code requires

5070
03:10:19,580 --> 03:10:20,640
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: that the provincial jails,

5071
03:10:20,640 --> 03:10:23,420
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: the provinces actually manage

5072
03:10:23,420 --> 03:10:24,920
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: and own provincial jails.

5073
03:10:25,080 --> 03:10:26,420
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: In the past,

5074
03:10:26,480 --> 03:10:26,880
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Your Honors,

5075
03:10:27,120 --> 03:10:27,920
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: we have been getting,

5076
03:10:28,560 --> 03:10:30,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Does it say manage and own?

5077
03:10:31,040 --> 03:10:31,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It just says,

5078
03:10:32,080 --> 03:10:32,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: should have,

5079
03:10:32,520 --> 03:10:34,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: should provide?

5080
03:10:34,240 --> 03:10:35,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Provide for the basic services.

5081
03:10:35,920 --> 03:10:36,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What was your first line?

5082
03:10:37,440 --> 03:10:38,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What was your first phrase?

5083
03:10:39,200 --> 03:10:39,980
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Local government units

5084
03:10:39,980 --> 03:10:41,100
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: shall endeavor to be self-reliant.

5085
03:10:41,100 --> 03:10:41,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Shall endeavor.

5086
03:10:42,200 --> 03:10:43,500
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Shall endeavor to be self-reliant

5087
03:10:43,500 --> 03:10:44,980
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: and shall be self-reliant.

5088
03:10:45,380 --> 03:10:46,800
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Correct, Mr. Chair.

5089
03:10:46,800 --> 03:10:47,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It doesn't say,

5090
03:10:47,440 --> 03:10:49,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: shall be self-reliant.

5091
03:10:49,160 --> 03:10:49,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It says,

5092
03:10:49,680 --> 03:10:50,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it shall endeavor.

5093
03:10:51,320 --> 03:10:52,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Which means,

5094
03:10:52,980 --> 03:10:53,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if it cannot,

5095
03:10:53,980 --> 03:10:55,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it will attempt,

5096
03:10:55,080 --> 03:10:55,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to endeavor,

5097
03:10:55,800 --> 03:10:56,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but it is.

5098
03:10:56,880 --> 03:10:57,460
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Yes, Your Honor.

5099
03:10:57,680 --> 03:10:59,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, the mandate is not exclusive.

5100
03:10:59,960 --> 03:11:01,020
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: That is correct, Your Honor.

5101
03:11:01,200 --> 03:11:03,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, you can have an executive order

5102
03:11:03,040 --> 03:11:05,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that will transfer BJMP

5103
03:11:05,300 --> 03:11:06,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to the DOJ.

5104
03:11:06,780 --> 03:11:07,300
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Yes, Your Honor.

5105
03:11:07,380 --> 03:11:08,560
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: We are about to draft that EO

5106
03:11:08,560 --> 03:11:09,320
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: ready for approval

5107
03:11:09,320 --> 03:11:10,280
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: by the President, Your Honor.

5108
03:11:10,480 --> 03:11:10,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah.

5109
03:11:10,740 --> 03:11:11,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In other words,

5110
03:11:13,040 --> 03:11:13,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the primary,

5111
03:11:16,060 --> 03:11:18,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it does not say that the LGUs

5112
03:11:18,180 --> 03:11:21,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have primary responsibility

5113
03:11:21,280 --> 03:11:23,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the jails.

5114
03:11:23,960 --> 03:11:24,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, Your Honor.

5115
03:11:25,080 --> 03:11:26,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They shall maintain,

5116
03:11:26,320 --> 03:11:26,660
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they shall,

5117
03:11:27,260 --> 03:11:28,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so, pwede.

5118
03:11:28,440 --> 03:11:29,580
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Based on our study, Your Honor,

5119
03:11:29,640 --> 03:11:30,400
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: we have legal basis

5120
03:11:30,400 --> 03:11:31,080
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: for the President

5121
03:11:31,080 --> 03:11:32,520
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: to actually issue the EO.

5122
03:11:32,720 --> 03:11:33,600
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: This has been done before

5123
03:11:33,600 --> 03:11:35,360
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: during the time of Fidel Ramos.

5124
03:11:35,740 --> 03:11:36,500
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: He issued an EO

5125
03:11:36,500 --> 03:11:38,460
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: transferring the Philippine Coast Guard

5126
03:11:38,460 --> 03:11:39,940
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: from the Philippine Navy

5127
03:11:39,940 --> 03:11:41,300
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: to the office of the President

5128
03:11:41,300 --> 03:11:42,700
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: and then he later on

5129
03:11:42,700 --> 03:11:43,640
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: was transferred to the office

5130
03:11:43,640 --> 03:11:45,260
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: of the DOTR.

5131
03:11:45,580 --> 03:11:46,480
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: So, there's a President,

5132
03:11:46,700 --> 03:11:47,080
DOJ Undersecretary Deo Marco: Mr. Chair.

5133
03:11:47,480 --> 03:11:47,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

5134
03:11:48,140 --> 03:11:48,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, good.

5135
03:11:49,080 --> 03:11:50,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, when do you intend

5136
03:11:50,500 --> 03:11:51,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to implement that,

5137
03:11:51,460 --> 03:11:52,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary Vida?

5138
03:11:53,880 --> 03:11:54,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do you have at least

5139
03:11:54,880 --> 03:11:56,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a working deadline?

5140
03:11:57,080 --> 03:11:57,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, yes.

5141
03:11:58,820 --> 03:12:00,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Gives a clear roadmap na po,

5142
03:12:01,280 --> 03:12:01,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor,

5143
03:12:02,320 --> 03:12:02,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on the matter.

5144
03:12:03,520 --> 03:12:06,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And if I understand it correctly,

5145
03:12:06,420 --> 03:12:08,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary Remulia,

5146
03:12:08,600 --> 03:12:09,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's not an object.

5147
03:12:10,040 --> 03:12:10,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Diba?

5148
03:12:10,260 --> 03:12:10,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: He supports it.

5149
03:12:11,160 --> 03:12:11,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Diba?

5150
03:12:11,420 --> 03:12:12,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think that was

5151
03:12:12,020 --> 03:12:12,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what was earlier mentioned.

5152
03:12:13,260 --> 03:12:14,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, good.

5153
03:12:14,100 --> 03:12:15,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, you should be able

5154
03:12:15,740 --> 03:12:16,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to do that soon.

5155
03:12:17,800 --> 03:12:18,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We did it

5156
03:12:18,900 --> 03:12:20,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as soon as,

5157
03:12:20,360 --> 03:12:21,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before I sat

5158
03:12:21,160 --> 03:12:23,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as Secretary of Food Security,

5159
03:12:24,880 --> 03:12:26,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the EO was

5160
03:12:26,240 --> 03:12:28,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: issued,

5161
03:12:28,540 --> 03:12:29,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nilipat lahat

5162
03:12:29,600 --> 03:12:30,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng apat na agencies

5163
03:12:30,760 --> 03:12:31,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from DA to

5164
03:12:31,860 --> 03:12:34,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to OP.

5165
03:12:34,840 --> 03:12:35,740
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, madali na yun.

5166
03:12:36,360 --> 03:12:37,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That can happen

5167
03:12:37,280 --> 03:12:38,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before the end of the year

5168
03:12:38,320 --> 03:12:40,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if you really want it.

5169
03:12:40,380 --> 03:12:41,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If the President

5170
03:12:41,060 --> 03:12:42,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: really wants it.

5171
03:12:43,580 --> 03:12:43,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

5172
03:12:44,300 --> 03:12:44,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So,

5173
03:12:45,060 --> 03:12:46,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my last question,

5174
03:12:46,260 --> 03:12:47,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the conviction rates.

5175
03:12:47,180 --> 03:12:47,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

5176
03:12:48,960 --> 03:12:50,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Data for 2025.

5177
03:12:52,160 --> 03:12:53,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Total number of

5178
03:12:53,480 --> 03:12:54,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: decided court cases,

5179
03:12:54,880 --> 03:12:57,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is 404,124.

5180
03:12:58,160 --> 03:12:59,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pag tinignan po natin nun,

5181
03:12:59,800 --> 03:13:00,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang data natin,

5182
03:13:00,660 --> 03:13:02,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 180,000 of those cases

5183
03:13:02,860 --> 03:13:04,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: were convictions.

5184
03:13:04,940 --> 03:13:05,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: No?

5185
03:13:06,460 --> 03:13:07,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's 44%.

5186
03:13:07,800 --> 03:13:09,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero meron pa hong yung

5187
03:13:09,420 --> 03:13:12,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: acquital na 18,234.

5188
03:13:13,300 --> 03:13:14,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Meron pa rin compromise

5189
03:13:14,580 --> 03:13:16,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or those successfully mediated,

5190
03:13:17,320 --> 03:13:18,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 23,017.

5191
03:13:19,480 --> 03:13:20,560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Meron din po yung court

5192
03:13:20,560 --> 03:13:21,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na in-archive

5193
03:13:21,420 --> 03:13:23,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na 30,000

5194
03:13:23,360 --> 03:13:24,600
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and transfer 14,000.

5195
03:13:24,880 --> 03:13:26,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung transfer po

5196
03:13:26,480 --> 03:13:27,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng jurisdiction.

5197
03:13:27,860 --> 03:13:29,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, 44 as against

5198
03:13:29,200 --> 03:13:30,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa 56%.

5199
03:13:30,540 --> 03:13:33,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 56% were disposed

5200
03:13:33,140 --> 03:13:33,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: by the court.

5201
03:13:34,640 --> 03:13:35,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Iba hong naging ruta.

5202
03:13:36,520 --> 03:13:37,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Iba hong naging conclusion.

5203
03:13:38,120 --> 03:13:39,220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sana po tayo papunta

5204
03:13:39,220 --> 03:13:40,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dun sa conviction rate natin.

5205
03:13:41,440 --> 03:13:42,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nung inilabas po

5206
03:13:42,660 --> 03:13:44,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng Department of Justice,

5207
03:13:44,180 --> 03:13:45,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung atin pong

5208
03:13:45,080 --> 03:13:47,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagtataas ng antas

5209
03:13:47,100 --> 03:13:49,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng pag-file ng kaso.

5210
03:13:49,640 --> 03:13:50,600
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung

5211
03:13:50,600 --> 03:13:52,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: prima facie evidence

5212
03:13:52,500 --> 03:13:54,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with reasonable certainty

5213
03:13:54,140 --> 03:13:54,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of conviction.

5214
03:13:54,880 --> 03:13:56,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nakita na po namin

5215
03:13:56,320 --> 03:13:57,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: epekto. Bakit po?

5216
03:13:57,920 --> 03:13:59,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ngayon, 2026 po,

5217
03:13:59,620 --> 03:14:00,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: first semester,

5218
03:14:00,800 --> 03:14:02,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung 44.75,

5219
03:14:03,040 --> 03:14:04,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 59.21 na po

5220
03:14:04,920 --> 03:14:06,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang conviction rate natin.

5221
03:14:07,920 --> 03:14:09,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, almost 60%.

5222
03:14:10,680 --> 03:14:11,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay.

5223
03:14:12,220 --> 03:14:14,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, ito po ay isa sa mga

5224
03:14:14,360 --> 03:14:16,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: reforma, isa sa mga

5225
03:14:16,040 --> 03:14:17,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: inisiyatibo para mapataas natin.

5226
03:14:18,280 --> 03:14:19,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang maganda po dito,

5227
03:14:20,180 --> 03:14:21,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakikita rin namin yung

5228
03:14:21,400 --> 03:14:22,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagbawas ng kaso

5229
03:14:22,920 --> 03:14:24,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na nakakarating na sa korte.

5230
03:14:24,880 --> 03:14:25,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Bakit po?

5231
03:14:26,120 --> 03:14:26,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dahil nga,

5232
03:14:26,860 --> 03:14:28,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kung mas mataas na yung antas

5233
03:14:28,240 --> 03:14:29,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: bago namin sila

5234
03:14:29,700 --> 03:14:31,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ma-file na ng information,

5235
03:14:32,080 --> 03:14:33,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung hindi dapat kasuhan,

5236
03:14:33,560 --> 03:14:34,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: hindi na namin

5237
03:14:34,120 --> 03:14:35,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kinakasuhan.

5238
03:14:35,780 --> 03:14:36,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At ang maganda dito,

5239
03:14:37,280 --> 03:14:39,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung access to legal service,

5240
03:14:39,400 --> 03:14:39,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor.

5241
03:14:40,260 --> 03:14:41,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi alam naman natin,

5242
03:14:41,480 --> 03:14:42,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dati nung probable cause,

5243
03:14:43,720 --> 03:14:45,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag tinarget ka

5244
03:14:45,720 --> 03:14:47,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at gusto kang victimahin

5245
03:14:47,960 --> 03:14:48,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng isang complainant

5246
03:14:49,580 --> 03:14:50,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na merong kakayanang

5247
03:14:50,700 --> 03:14:52,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kumuha ng abogado

5248
03:14:52,180 --> 03:14:54,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at ikaw ay walang kakayanan,

5249
03:14:54,880 --> 03:14:55,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: probable cause lang

5250
03:14:55,680 --> 03:14:56,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may kaso ka na.

5251
03:14:57,080 --> 03:14:58,720
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At dahil wala kang kakayanang

5252
03:14:58,720 --> 03:14:59,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kumuha ng efektib.

5253
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:01,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at magaling.

5254
03:15:02,160 --> 03:15:03,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Masasalamat po tayo

5255
03:15:03,140 --> 03:15:03,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na dyan po lagi

5256
03:15:03,900 --> 03:15:05,840
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang ating public attorney's office

5257
03:15:05,840 --> 03:15:07,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na gumagana po

5258
03:15:07,540 --> 03:15:09,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa kanilang tungkulin.

5259
03:15:09,660 --> 03:15:09,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero,

5260
03:15:10,400 --> 03:15:12,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: isa po na natugunan nito

5261
03:15:12,440 --> 03:15:13,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung access po

5262
03:15:13,700 --> 03:15:14,880
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to legal service.

5263
03:15:15,320 --> 03:15:16,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We make it

5264
03:15:16,200 --> 03:15:17,600
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: equitable

5265
03:15:17,600 --> 03:15:19,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para yung ating po

5266
03:15:19,160 --> 03:15:20,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mga prosecutor o piskal

5267
03:15:20,900 --> 03:15:21,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay may kakayanang

5268
03:15:21,980 --> 03:15:22,780
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mag-dismiss na.

5269
03:15:23,360 --> 03:15:24,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hindi naman to

5270
03:15:24,080 --> 03:15:25,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kayang ipanalo.

5271
03:15:25,440 --> 03:15:26,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dinidismiss na po.

5272
03:15:26,700 --> 03:15:28,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya yung malalakas na kaso

5273
03:15:28,240 --> 03:15:28,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lamang po

5274
03:15:28,740 --> 03:15:30,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang ating finafile ngayon

5275
03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:31,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa ating mga husgado.

5276
03:15:31,800 --> 03:15:33,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think that's the

5277
03:15:33,180 --> 03:15:34,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's the trend worldwide.

5278
03:15:35,280 --> 03:15:35,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Di ba?

5279
03:15:37,280 --> 03:15:38,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: When you file the case

5280
03:15:38,820 --> 03:15:40,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's precisely a

5281
03:15:40,440 --> 03:15:41,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: strong case.

5282
03:15:42,120 --> 03:15:44,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kaya nag na 90% conviction rate

5283
03:15:44,000 --> 03:15:45,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang 90 plus percent

5284
03:15:45,720 --> 03:15:46,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: conviction rate

5285
03:15:46,420 --> 03:15:47,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang Japan, for example.

5286
03:15:48,540 --> 03:15:49,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil nga dun.

5287
03:15:49,800 --> 03:15:50,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact,

5288
03:15:51,340 --> 03:15:53,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 95 pa ata Singapore eh.

5289
03:15:53,500 --> 03:15:55,120
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 95% conviction.

5290
03:15:55,340 --> 03:15:56,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So once the case is filed

5291
03:15:56,520 --> 03:15:57,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's a strong case.

5292
03:15:57,380 --> 03:15:58,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Therefore, the certainty

5293
03:15:58,360 --> 03:15:59,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of conviction.

5294
03:15:59,640 --> 03:16:00,080
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead.

5295
03:16:00,500 --> 03:16:00,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes.

5296
03:16:00,900 --> 03:16:01,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, sir.

5297
03:16:02,580 --> 03:16:03,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Sir, the

5298
03:16:03,520 --> 03:16:05,680
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: change in the quantum of evidence

5299
03:16:05,680 --> 03:16:07,140
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: was only in 2023.

5300
03:16:07,940 --> 03:16:09,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: But as early as now

5301
03:16:09,280 --> 03:16:10,320
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we're already seeing

5302
03:16:10,320 --> 03:16:12,200
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the difference in the output

5303
03:16:12,200 --> 03:16:13,860
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: as far as convictions

5304
03:16:13,860 --> 03:16:14,640
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: are concerned

5305
03:16:14,640 --> 03:16:16,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and as far as number of cases

5306
03:16:16,600 --> 03:16:17,240
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: which are filed.

5307
03:16:17,720 --> 03:16:18,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So yung nakikita po

5308
03:16:18,540 --> 03:16:19,680
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nating datos dito

5309
03:16:19,680 --> 03:16:20,720
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: karamihan pa po dito

5310
03:16:20,720 --> 03:16:21,700
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: were the ones filed

5311
03:16:21,700 --> 03:16:22,620
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: under the old

5312
03:16:22,620 --> 03:16:25,660
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: regime where we were

5313
03:16:25,660 --> 03:16:27,740
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: following simply probable cause.

5314
03:16:28,360 --> 03:16:30,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ang kagandahan lang nito, sir,

5315
03:16:30,380 --> 03:16:30,940
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: medyo

5316
03:16:30,940 --> 03:16:33,680
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: siyempre there are a lot of adjustments

5317
03:16:33,680 --> 03:16:35,620
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: not only on the part of the prosecution

5318
03:16:35,620 --> 03:16:38,120
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: but also on the part of law enforcement.

5319
03:16:38,680 --> 03:16:40,060
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Because one of the mandates

5320
03:16:40,060 --> 03:16:42,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and one of the requirements

5321
03:16:42,040 --> 03:16:42,880
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: let's say for example

5322
03:16:42,880 --> 03:16:44,540
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the department circular issued

5323
03:16:44,540 --> 03:16:45,940
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: by the Secretary of Justice

5324
03:16:45,940 --> 03:16:47,820
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: yung closer coordination

5325
03:16:47,820 --> 03:16:50,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: collaboration between prosecutors

5326
03:16:50,280 --> 03:16:51,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and law enforcers

5327
03:16:51,480 --> 03:16:54,460
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at the very inception of the case

5328
03:16:54,460 --> 03:16:56,040
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is one which

5329
03:16:56,040 --> 03:16:58,000
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: actually requires a certain

5330
03:16:58,000 --> 03:16:58,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: model of control.

5331
03:16:58,360 --> 03:16:58,940
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: It's not only the

5332
03:16:58,940 --> 03:16:59,900
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: mindset or shift

5333
03:16:59,900 --> 03:17:01,420
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: dun sa mindset na

5334
03:17:01,420 --> 03:17:02,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: yung kung dati

5335
03:17:02,780 --> 03:17:04,020
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ang prosecutor

5336
03:17:04,020 --> 03:17:05,020
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: naghihintay lamang

5337
03:17:05,020 --> 03:17:05,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ng kaso na i-file

5338
03:17:05,980 --> 03:17:06,840
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: o dalhin sa kanila

5339
03:17:06,840 --> 03:17:08,760
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at dati

5340
03:17:08,760 --> 03:17:09,580
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: bahala na

5341
03:17:09,580 --> 03:17:10,440
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ang law enforcement

5342
03:17:10,440 --> 03:17:11,180
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na gumangalap

5343
03:17:11,180 --> 03:17:11,960
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ng ebidensya.

5344
03:17:12,520 --> 03:17:12,820
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ngayon po

5345
03:17:12,820 --> 03:17:13,740
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sa simula pa lang

5346
03:17:13,740 --> 03:17:14,680
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ay naguusap

5347
03:17:14,680 --> 03:17:15,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at nagtutulungan na

5348
03:17:15,780 --> 03:17:17,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it comes out

5349
03:17:17,560 --> 03:17:18,700
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that we have

5350
03:17:18,700 --> 03:17:19,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: a better case.

5351
03:17:19,800 --> 03:17:20,520
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: But there are still

5352
03:17:20,520 --> 03:17:21,000
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: adjustments.

5353
03:17:21,220 --> 03:17:22,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There's still a lot of room

5354
03:17:22,280 --> 03:17:22,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for improvement

5355
03:17:22,980 --> 03:17:24,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in terms of the coordination

5356
03:17:24,560 --> 03:17:25,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: because

5357
03:17:25,100 --> 03:17:26,440
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it's not only

5358
03:17:26,440 --> 03:17:27,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the NBI

5359
03:17:27,480 --> 03:17:28,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it's not only

5360
03:17:28,300 --> 03:17:28,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the NBI

5361
03:17:28,360 --> 03:17:28,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: or the PNP

5362
03:17:28,980 --> 03:17:29,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: there are other

5363
03:17:29,780 --> 03:17:31,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: law enforcement agencies

5364
03:17:31,220 --> 03:17:32,160
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: like the PIDEA

5365
03:17:32,160 --> 03:17:33,120
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we have

5366
03:17:33,120 --> 03:17:34,360
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: enforcement agencies

5367
03:17:34,360 --> 03:17:36,260
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: law enforcement

5368
03:17:36,260 --> 03:17:37,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: from the BIR

5369
03:17:37,280 --> 03:17:38,680
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the BOC

5370
03:17:38,680 --> 03:17:40,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: which have to

5371
03:17:40,340 --> 03:17:41,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: be brought on board

5372
03:17:41,780 --> 03:17:43,460
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: just so that they see

5373
03:17:43,460 --> 03:17:45,380
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the importance

5374
03:17:45,380 --> 03:17:46,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: or the significance

5375
03:17:46,300 --> 03:17:47,440
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of that collaboration

5376
03:17:47,440 --> 03:17:49,460
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: which will only be seen

5377
03:17:49,460 --> 03:17:50,140
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at the end

5378
03:17:50,140 --> 03:17:51,300
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kapag nakuha na natin

5379
03:17:51,300 --> 03:17:52,660
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: yung resulta na gusto natin

5380
03:17:52,660 --> 03:17:53,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and yung sinabi ho

5381
03:17:53,600 --> 03:17:54,460
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ni Secretary that

5382
03:17:54,460 --> 03:17:56,260
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: there are fewer cases

5383
03:17:56,260 --> 03:17:57,640
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: which are actually being filed

5384
03:17:57,640 --> 03:17:58,340
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: because it goes

5385
03:17:58,340 --> 03:17:58,760
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: through

5386
03:17:58,760 --> 03:17:59,900
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: a very

5387
03:17:59,900 --> 03:18:01,120
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: tedious process

5388
03:18:01,120 --> 03:18:01,840
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of evaluation

5389
03:18:01,840 --> 03:18:02,780
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: before it goes

5390
03:18:02,780 --> 03:18:03,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: through PI

5391
03:18:03,280 --> 03:18:04,800
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and

5392
03:18:04,800 --> 03:18:05,920
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: these cases

5393
03:18:05,920 --> 03:18:06,480
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: while few

5394
03:18:06,480 --> 03:18:08,100
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: these are the quality cases

5395
03:18:08,100 --> 03:18:09,980
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that we can be assured of

5396
03:18:09,980 --> 03:18:11,220
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that once we file it

5397
03:18:11,220 --> 03:18:11,600
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in court

5398
03:18:11,600 --> 03:18:12,920
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: something na kaya po

5399
03:18:12,920 --> 03:18:13,280
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: nating

5400
03:18:13,280 --> 03:18:14,560
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: maipanalo.

5401
03:18:15,320 --> 03:18:16,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you.

5402
03:18:16,120 --> 03:18:16,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you for that.

5403
03:18:17,000 --> 03:18:17,280
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And

5404
03:18:17,280 --> 03:18:18,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I said this

5405
03:18:18,800 --> 03:18:20,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: judiciary budget hearing

5406
03:18:20,340 --> 03:18:22,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when we were going

5407
03:18:22,880 --> 03:18:23,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: through the

5408
03:18:23,640 --> 03:18:24,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: flood control

5409
03:18:24,780 --> 03:18:26,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: scandal

5410
03:18:26,440 --> 03:18:27,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: last year

5411
03:18:27,160 --> 03:18:27,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: no?

5412
03:18:28,340 --> 03:18:29,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's

5413
03:18:29,460 --> 03:18:29,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi ko

5414
03:18:29,940 --> 03:18:31,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's not just the

5415
03:18:31,200 --> 03:18:32,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: politicians

5416
03:18:32,340 --> 03:18:34,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who are on trial

5417
03:18:34,620 --> 03:18:36,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's not just the

5418
03:18:36,580 --> 03:18:38,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: public works

5419
03:18:38,400 --> 03:18:39,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: employees

5420
03:18:39,580 --> 03:18:40,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and officials

5421
03:18:40,420 --> 03:18:41,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who are on trial

5422
03:18:41,400 --> 03:18:42,440
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ultimately

5423
03:18:42,440 --> 03:18:43,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the whole system

5424
03:18:43,420 --> 03:18:43,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of justice

5425
03:18:43,960 --> 03:18:44,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is on trial

5426
03:18:44,760 --> 03:18:46,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kasi sabi ko

5427
03:18:46,560 --> 03:18:47,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: habang nasa

5428
03:18:47,500 --> 03:18:47,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dyaryo

5429
03:18:47,940 --> 03:18:49,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat galit sa

5430
03:18:49,000 --> 03:18:51,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: politiko

5431
03:18:51,240 --> 03:18:52,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: magdanakaw

5432
03:18:52,680 --> 03:18:53,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: public works

5433
03:18:53,520 --> 03:18:54,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na kurap

5434
03:18:54,000 --> 03:18:55,100
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pero

5435
03:18:55,100 --> 03:18:56,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat yung

5436
03:18:56,240 --> 03:18:56,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga investigation

5437
03:18:56,920 --> 03:18:57,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: namin nun

5438
03:18:57,680 --> 03:18:58,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's not just

5439
03:18:58,340 --> 03:18:59,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa senate

5440
03:18:59,020 --> 03:19:00,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: saan mapupunta

5441
03:19:00,580 --> 03:19:02,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa

5442
03:19:02,380 --> 03:19:04,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa

5443
03:19:04,500 --> 03:19:06,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: justice system

5444
03:19:06,260 --> 03:19:08,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and

5445
03:19:08,420 --> 03:19:09,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: unfortunately

5446
03:19:09,200 --> 03:19:10,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at that time

5447
03:19:10,220 --> 03:19:13,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the middle of it all

5448
03:19:13,780 --> 03:19:15,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: habang

5449
03:19:15,400 --> 03:19:16,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: iniimbisagahan yung

5450
03:19:16,800 --> 03:19:17,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: flood control

5451
03:19:17,700 --> 03:19:19,420
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: luwabas yung

5452
03:19:19,420 --> 03:19:20,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sandigan bayan

5453
03:19:20,940 --> 03:19:21,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na

5454
03:19:21,980 --> 03:19:23,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: convicted

5455
03:19:23,520 --> 03:19:24,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yung

5456
03:19:24,860 --> 03:19:26,500
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga

5457
03:19:26,500 --> 03:19:27,460
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: involved

5458
03:19:27,460 --> 03:19:28,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa

5459
03:19:28,340 --> 03:19:30,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fertilizer scam

5460
03:19:30,220 --> 03:19:31,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na

5461
03:19:31,900 --> 03:19:32,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: naganap

5462
03:19:32,940 --> 03:19:33,380
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nung

5463
03:19:33,380 --> 03:19:34,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2004

5464
03:19:34,520 --> 03:19:36,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at

5465
03:19:36,060 --> 03:19:36,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na-convict

5466
03:19:36,680 --> 03:19:37,800
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa sandigan bayan

5467
03:19:37,800 --> 03:19:39,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 21 years later

5468
03:19:39,180 --> 03:19:42,840
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat tayo

5469
03:19:42,840 --> 03:19:43,580
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa sistema

5470
03:19:43,580 --> 03:19:44,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng katarungan

5471
03:19:44,560 --> 03:19:45,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bilang mga

5472
03:19:45,200 --> 03:19:46,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagtatrabaho

5473
03:19:46,020 --> 03:19:46,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sino rito

5474
03:19:46,640 --> 03:19:47,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: taas nyo yung kamay

5475
03:19:47,620 --> 03:19:48,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at sabihin

5476
03:19:48,160 --> 03:19:49,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: okay yun ah

5477
03:19:49,640 --> 03:19:50,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tama lang yun

5478
03:19:50,760 --> 03:19:52,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: after 21 years

5479
03:19:52,180 --> 03:19:54,200
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: may conviction

5480
03:19:54,200 --> 03:19:59,920
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos magtataka tayo bakit

5481
03:19:59,920 --> 03:20:01,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tuloy-tuloy

5482
03:20:01,480 --> 03:20:02,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang pangungurakot

5483
03:20:02,360 --> 03:20:03,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa gobyerno

5484
03:20:03,040 --> 03:20:04,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: eh kumuha na lang tayo

5485
03:20:04,140 --> 03:20:04,600
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng bato

5486
03:20:04,600 --> 03:20:06,360
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pupuk natin sa ulo natin

5487
03:20:06,360 --> 03:20:08,220
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kung hindi natin babaguhin

5488
03:20:08,220 --> 03:20:09,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dahil yun din

5489
03:20:09,400 --> 03:20:10,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang magiging resulta

5490
03:20:10,620 --> 03:20:13,180
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we shouldn't be

5491
03:20:13,180 --> 03:20:14,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: shocked

5492
03:20:14,340 --> 03:20:15,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: unfortunately

5493
03:20:15,680 --> 03:20:17,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if we are just

5494
03:20:17,160 --> 03:20:18,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rationally

5495
03:20:18,480 --> 03:20:19,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thinking about

5496
03:20:19,760 --> 03:20:20,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what's going on

5497
03:20:20,560 --> 03:20:21,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it's the justice system

5498
03:20:21,900 --> 03:20:22,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that is also

5499
03:20:22,520 --> 03:20:23,340
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: on trial here

5500
03:20:23,340 --> 03:20:26,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and I dread

5501
03:20:26,720 --> 03:20:28,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that what happens

5502
03:20:28,300 --> 03:20:30,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to previous cases

5503
03:20:30,060 --> 03:20:31,820
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of massive

5504
03:20:31,820 --> 03:20:33,020
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: scandals

5505
03:20:33,020 --> 03:20:33,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: corruption

5506
03:20:33,780 --> 03:20:36,160
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will happen

5507
03:20:36,160 --> 03:20:36,880
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to the current

5508
03:20:36,880 --> 03:20:38,060
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: set of cases

5509
03:20:38,060 --> 03:20:38,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I dread that

5510
03:20:38,860 --> 03:20:41,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but

5511
03:20:41,240 --> 03:20:42,720
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know

5512
03:20:42,720 --> 03:20:43,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: moving forward

5513
03:20:43,560 --> 03:20:46,620
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we are not just

5514
03:20:46,620 --> 03:20:48,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: prosecuting cases

5515
03:20:48,900 --> 03:20:51,680
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we are not just

5516
03:20:51,680 --> 03:20:56,140
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: doing

5517
03:20:56,140 --> 03:20:57,980
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: direct and cross examination

5518
03:20:58,300 --> 03:20:59,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we are actually all

5519
03:20:59,780 --> 03:21:04,940
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: trying to redirect

5520
03:21:04,940 --> 03:21:06,560
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the course of the nation

5521
03:21:06,560 --> 03:21:09,040
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at this critical juncture

5522
03:21:09,040 --> 03:21:10,260
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in our country's history

5523
03:21:10,260 --> 03:21:12,960
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and so I hope

5524
03:21:12,960 --> 03:21:13,760
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi nga nila

5525
03:21:13,760 --> 03:21:14,700
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we are not just doing

5526
03:21:14,700 --> 03:21:15,320
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: all these

5527
03:21:15,320 --> 03:21:17,860
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: case build up

5528
03:21:17,860 --> 03:21:18,780
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: diba

5529
03:21:21,500 --> 03:21:37,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We are working on a... redirecting of our country's course.

5530
03:21:39,460 --> 03:21:40,520
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and that's why

5531
03:21:40,520 --> 03:21:41,640
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we're on trial too

5532
03:21:41,640 --> 03:21:43,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: even the senate

5533
03:21:44,300 --> 03:21:45,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: even the house

5534
03:21:45,300 --> 03:21:46,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and the impeachment

5535
03:21:46,300 --> 03:21:47,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we're all on trial

5536
03:21:47,300 --> 03:21:48,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lahat tayo

5537
03:21:48,300 --> 03:21:49,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mahuhusgahan

5538
03:21:49,300 --> 03:21:50,300
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng kasaysayan

5539
03:21:51,980 --> 03:21:54,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so ang tanong natin

5540
03:21:54,000 --> 03:21:56,000
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: gusto ba nating

5541
03:21:56,000 --> 03:21:57,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mahusgahan

5542
03:21:57,900 --> 03:21:59,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na nagkulang

5543
03:21:59,900 --> 03:22:01,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o gusto ba nating mahusgahan

5544
03:22:01,900 --> 03:22:03,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na matapos tayong

5545
03:22:03,900 --> 03:22:05,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tinimbang

5546
03:22:05,900 --> 03:22:08,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ay sapat

5547
03:22:08,900 --> 03:22:09,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at

5548
03:22:09,900 --> 03:22:11,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maayos

5549
03:22:11,900 --> 03:22:13,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so

5550
03:22:13,900 --> 03:22:15,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will sit down

5551
03:22:15,900 --> 03:22:16,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: separately for the meeting

5552
03:22:16,900 --> 03:22:17,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will also go through

5553
03:22:17,900 --> 03:22:18,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your request

5554
03:22:18,900 --> 03:22:19,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of

5555
03:22:19,900 --> 03:22:21,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: restoration

5556
03:22:21,900 --> 03:22:22,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your wish list

5557
03:22:22,900 --> 03:22:23,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tama ba

5558
03:22:23,900 --> 03:22:26,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 1 billion 26 million 795

5559
03:22:26,900 --> 03:22:27,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is that right?

5560
03:22:27,900 --> 03:22:29,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a

5561
03:22:29,900 --> 03:22:30,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: centrum building

5562
03:22:30,900 --> 03:22:32,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: personal compensation

5563
03:22:32,900 --> 03:22:33,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a

5564
03:22:33,900 --> 03:22:34,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: buildings at

5565
03:22:34,900 --> 03:22:35,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 568 million

5566
03:22:35,900 --> 03:22:36,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: confidential fund

5567
03:22:36,900 --> 03:22:37,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: restoration

5568
03:22:37,900 --> 03:22:39,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: general administration

5569
03:22:39,900 --> 03:22:41,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a

5570
03:22:41,900 --> 03:22:42,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and so forth

5571
03:22:42,900 --> 03:22:43,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and so on

5572
03:22:43,900 --> 03:22:44,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 229

5573
03:22:44,900 --> 03:22:45,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: million for the

5574
03:22:45,900 --> 03:22:46,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bucor

5575
03:22:46,900 --> 03:22:47,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 276 million

5576
03:22:47,900 --> 03:22:48,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the BI

5577
03:22:48,900 --> 03:22:49,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a

5578
03:22:49,900 --> 03:22:50,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hazard pay

5579
03:22:50,900 --> 03:22:51,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: NBI

5580
03:22:51,900 --> 03:22:52,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 299 million

5581
03:22:52,900 --> 03:22:53,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: plus plus

5582
03:22:53,900 --> 03:22:54,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and the

5583
03:22:54,900 --> 03:22:55,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: confidential funds

5584
03:22:55,900 --> 03:22:56,900
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: additional

5585
03:22:56,900 --> 03:23:11,480
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, we'll go through that and at least we will endeavor to endorse this and get the restoration so we can give you the support you need to do your job.

5586
03:23:12,760 --> 03:23:24,540
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, there being no further questions subject to the submission of the documents and the information requested in our separate meeting,

5587
03:23:24,540 --> 03:23:34,400
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the budget of the Department of Justice and its attached agencies is deemed submitted for the consideration of plenary.

5588
03:23:36,740 --> 03:23:46,240
Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Secretary Vida and the DOJ family. Maraming salamat sa oras at panahon. The hearing of the subcommittee G is hereby suspended.