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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000001The expenditure program of the Commission on Audit is hereby called to order.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000002I would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Migz Zubiri.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000003Our Majority Leader is here at the back.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000004He'll be joining us in a while.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000005At this juncture, let me direct the Committee Secretary to acknowledge our resource person.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000006Yes, our Majority Leader is present for the day.
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri
asr-000007I'm here to give my full support to the budget of the COA.
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri
asr-000008More power to you, ladies and gentlemen.
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri
asr-000009I think we should give them all the budgetary support that they need, Your Honor.
Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri
asr-000010Whatever they need, you have my vote for the additional budget.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000011Thank you, Senator.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000012Thank you, our Majority Leader.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000013Thank you for the support.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000014At this juncture, again, I'd like to direct the Committee Secretary to acknowledge the resource persons present for the day.
Committee Secretary
asr-000015Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Secretary
asr-000016Good afternoon.
Committee Secretary
asr-000017For the briefing on the proposed FY2027 budget of the Commission on Audit or COA,
Committee Secretary
asr-000018we would like to acknowledge our resource persons.
Committee Secretary
asr-000019From the Commission on Audit,
Committee Secretary
asr-000020we have Chairperson Gamaliel Cordova,
Committee Secretary
asr-000021Commissioner Douglas Michael Malilin,
Committee Secretary
asr-000022Assistant Commissioner Alexander Juliano,
Committee Secretary
asr-000023Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaras,
Committee Secretary
asr-000024Assistant Commissioner Martha Rosana Sese,
Committee Secretary
asr-000025Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabotchan,
Committee Secretary
asr-000026Assistant Commissioner Roy Ursal,
Committee Secretary
asr-000027Assistant Commissioner Joel Estolatan,
Committee Secretary
asr-000028Assistant Commissioner Lito Martin,
Committee Secretary
asr-000029Assistant Commissioner Brasilo Sabaldan,
Committee Secretary
asr-000030Assistant Commissioner Lucilas Isidro,
Committee Secretary
asr-000031Assistant Commissioner Sofia Guimora,
Committee Secretary
asr-000032and Assistant Commissioner Estela Mercado.
Committee Secretary
asr-000033From the Department of Budget and Management, we have Director Elena Regina Brillantes, Ms. Siti Nor Ayma Dimapanat, Ms. Patricia Arabella Villamin, Ms. Christine Love Morales, Ms. Najla Marie Kawaling, and Mr. Clarence Ivar Odsinada. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000034Thank you, our Committee Secretary. At this juncture, the Chair would like to give his opening statement. Today, we take up the proposed 2027 budget of the Commission Audit, our Constitutional Guardian of Public Funds.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000035At a time when public confidence in government spending is being tested, COA must be equipped to detect wrongdoing early, verify that projects exist, and work as intended.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000036And hold accountable those who misuse public money. We also want to recognize the men and women of COA who carry out this difficult mandate every day. Their work is often difficult, technical, and done away from public attention.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000037Audit observations and notices of disallowance are not always well received, but are part of the checks and balances that protect public funds. Government agencies should see them not as an attack, but as
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000038an opportunity to explain, correct deficiencies, strengthen internal controls, and improve
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000039the use of public funds.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000040We want to know whether the funding level under 2027 NEP is enough for the job we expect
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000041COA to perform.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000042We will look closely at your capacity for fraud and performance audits, field inspections,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000043information system audits, citizen participation, staffing, and the timely resolution of audit
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000044findings.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000045At the same time, accountability must begin at home.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000046COA itself must meet the same standards of sound financial management, transparency,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000047and internal control that it requires from every government agency.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000048Our objective is simple.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000049Every peso we provide to COA should help protect many more pesos from waste, irregularity,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000050and corruption.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000051At this point, since our colleagues are not yet here, we'll just ask them for their
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000052manifestations and their queries later.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000053So, may we request the Commission on Audit to brief us on the proposed fiscal year 2027
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000054National Expenditure Program.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000055I ask the indulgence of the others to allow the Commission to present and complete their
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000056presentation.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000057Yes, Chairman Gamaliel Cordoba, you now have the floor.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000058Opo. Good afternoon to the Honorable Chairperson of the Committee on Finance, Senator JV
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000059Ejercito, and to the personnel and officials of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000060the Committee on Finance of the Senate.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000061Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you very much for having us this afternoon.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000062May I ask Nilda Plaras to present the details of our budget.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000063Thank you very much.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000064Yes, Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaras, you now have the floor for the presentation.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000065Good afternoon, Chairperson of the Committee on Finance.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000066Good afternoon, everyone.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000067My fellow COAns and public servants.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000068At this point, I will present to you the major accomplishments of the Commission on Audit
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000069for fiscal year 2025 and first semester of fiscal year 2026, as well as the budget of
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000070the Commission on Audit for fiscal year 2027.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000071Under the financial performance.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000072As of December 31, 2025, the Commission on Audit received a total allotment of $15.1 billion, and out of this total allotment, 97.36%, or $14.7 billion, was obligated.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000073And out of this total obligations incurred of $14.7 billion, 97.33%, or $14.3 billion, was disbursed, resulting to the balances of unobligated allotment of $398 million, and unpaid obligations of $392 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000074For the first semester of fiscal year 2026, COA has an allotment, a total allotment of $15.7 billion, and out of this $15.7 billion, 51.06%, or $8 billion, was obligated.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000075And out of this total obligations incurred, 97.3%.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000076And out of this total obligations incurred, 97.45%, or $7.8 billion, was disbursed.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000077Excuse me, Assistant Commissioner. Our Blue Ribbon Chair, Senator Erwin Tulfo, has joined us.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000078Thank you, sir, for joining us. Please continue.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000079Good afternoon, sir.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000080As to our fiscal performance under the government auditing program, the COA was able to transmit to the audited agencies,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000081the following reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000082For fiscal year 2025, 2,663 annual audit reports, 43 fraud audit reports, 10 special audit reports, and 3 performance audit reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000083For the first semester of fiscal year 2026, 2,605 annual audit reports, 10 fraud audit reports,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-0000844 special audit reports, and 3 performance audit reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000085Still under the government auditing program, COA was able to publish in our COA website,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000086the annual audit reports for fiscal year 2025.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000087There were 2,255 annual audit reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000088For the first semester of fiscal year 2026, none.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000089Since the...
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000090The deadline of the transmittal of our annual audit reports to the audited agency was June 30.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000091And within 60 days from receipt of the COA annual audit report, the audit agencies are required to submit the status report on the actions taken on the audit observations and recommendations.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000092And this status report shall be published together with the annual audit reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000093until October 31 of the year.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000094As to the government accountancy program, COA was able to submit reports to the Office of the President, House of Representatives, and Senate.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000095For 2025, we submitted...
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-0000962025 and 2026, we were able to transmit annual reports.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000097As to the report of appropriations, allotments, obligations, and disbursements.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000098As to the annual financial reports of local government, national government, and government corporations, we submitted for fiscal year 2025.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000099For 2026, our deadline for submission will be on September 30.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000100As to the government accountancy program, COA was able to issue...
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000101Two circular, COA circulars for fiscal year 2025.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000102Two COA circulars for the first semester of first fiscal year 2026.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000103As to the agency users trained and assisted, for fiscal year 2025, we were able to train 3,817 users.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000104And for the first semester of fiscal year 2026,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000105we were able to train 2,148 agency users.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000106As to the government financial adjudication program,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000107for fiscal year 2025,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000108there were 811 cases decided by the Commission proper,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000109587 cases by the national government audit sector,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000110188 cases for the corporate government audit sector,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000116and 571 cases for the local government audit sector. For the first semester
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000117of fiscal year 2026, 448 cases were decided by the Commission proper, 116 cases by the national
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000118government audit sector, 42 by the corporate government audit sector, and 224 cases for the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000119local government sector. As to our budget under the fiscal year 2027 national expenditure program,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000120we have as approved under the NEP of $16,046,527,000 to be exact.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000121And this consists of the agency-specific budget,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000122of $14.77 billion, and retirement and life insurance premium of $1.272 billion.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000123Out of this, for the agency-specific budget, it consists of the personal services of $14.036 billion
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000124and $737.977 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000125So we have no capital outlay.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000126So the last slide is the comparative data between the NEP as against our budget proposal
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000127for fiscal year 2027.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000128For the personal services, there is an increase of 1.17%.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000129And this is due to the increase in our authorized
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000130plantilla positions, and inclusion of the fourth tranche of the Salary Standardization Law.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000131Then for the MOOE, 34.48% decrease, and this is pertaining to the first year implementation
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000132of the COA ISSP, and additional funding for our citizen participatory audit, MOE requirements.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000133Then, zero for, I mean, 100% decrease for our capital outlay.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000134So, that's all for the presentation. Thank you very much.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000135Thank you, Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaras. I'll ask my colleague, Senator Tulfo, our
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000136Blue Ribbon Chair, if he might have a statement or some queries.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000137Just a few quick questions.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000138Mr. Chair, una po sa lahat kay ASCOM Plaras, ba't wala pong capital outlay? I noticed.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000139Wala po sa NEP, although we proposed.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000140Magkano po yung proposal po ninyo?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-0001411.177 billion.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000142Billion. Para saan po ito? Ano po ang purpose sana?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000143For the capital outlay, we have the building and other structures.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000144Marami pong composition, sir.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000145Modernization of our COA building, fire protection works, renovation of our profession.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000146When you say, ma'am, I'm sorry.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000147When you say modernization of your building, you're building here, your main office,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000148malapit sa Sandigan?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000149Yes, the building one and two po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000150Yung old one po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000151Anong year ho ba 'yan naitayo?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-0001521970.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000153Late sixties po, Your Honor.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000154Late sixties, Chairman.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000155Opo.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000156Opo.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000157With the indulgence of Senator Tulfo, meron lang akong nakita, just to clarify, last year, meron akong
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000158phase 2 doon sa new four-story building with a basement.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000159So tanong ko lang, what's the status, or meron pa tayong phase 3 for this?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000160Ito ba yung one billion?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000161Is it part of the phase 3?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000162Hindi po, sir.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000179Yung new building po, yung another na, it's not the old one.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000180We have a new building.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000181That's the 370 po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000182Ano po status niya?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000183Under construction, or nagawa naman po?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000184We are preparing now the plan for phase 2 po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000185Ah, so ano pala ito? Phase 2?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000186Yes po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000187Okay.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000189So last year merong 370 million.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000190So this year,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000191to finish it, is this enough already?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000192Wala po, sir.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000193Hindi siya kasama dito.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000194Sa old building po ito,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000195yung modernization.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000196So may facelift pa ba ito?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000197Wala na po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000198Wala na.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000199So ito lang.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000200Idagdag ko lang po, Mr. Chair, Senator Tulfo.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000201The old building po, we retrofitted it kasi po natatakot kami because it was made during the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000202old building code pa po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000206So baka po hindi na up to standard.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000207I understand where you're coming from.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000208Sabay ho yata itinayo sa DSWD at saka sa inyo.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000209Kaya nung mag-earthquake ho, umuuga-uga kami sa DSWD.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000210I was the secretary then.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000211Number two, sir.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000212Baka hindi pa kaya naubos ninyo yung 600 million na inallocate sa inyo last year,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000213kaya ayaw ho kayong bigyan.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000214Meron kayong 650 million para sa capital outlay?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000215Yes po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000216Have you already utilized that?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000217Yung 370 million, sir.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000218We're waiting
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000219for the transfer of the building from DPWH kasi it is implemented by the
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000220DPWH.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000221So our GSO is now preparing for phase 2.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000222Once the building will be transferred, that's the time na ma-implement na po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000223Itong request ho ninyo for this year, is it really a must, Mr. Chairman?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000224Kailangang-kailangan ba ito?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000225Kung kailangang-kailangan at hindi nga maibibigay, pero ano ho yung
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000226medyo malapit-lapit sa realization sa hingi ninyo na one billion?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000227Ano yung pwedeng malapit-lapit man lang?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000228Ah.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000229Si ASCOM Nilda na po ang sasagot.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000230Go ahead, ASCOM Plaras.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000231First, sir, ang pinakaimportante namin is the information and communication technology
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000232equipment and software.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000233Ang pinaka-last nga namin yung sa modernization of the building.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000234Then the second for us is the semi-expendable ICT items.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000235This is the...
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000236So yung priority po ninyo, information and communication?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000237How much is the total of that information and communication sa breakdown?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000238297.6 million po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000239297.6 million.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000240Yes po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000241Part of the capital outlay?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000242Yung susunod po, ano?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000243Part of the MOE, which is
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000244Communication Equipment
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000245and Software Subscription
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000246and
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000247Internet
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000248Subscription para sa
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000249Provincial Satellite Auditing Offices
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000250po namin.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000251So yun ang MOE part po, sir.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000252Pero yung pinakaimportante po, yung
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000253information and communication.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-000254It is a priority.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000255Alright. Thank you,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000256ASCOM Plaras.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000257Mr. Chair, I have another
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000258question, pero please proceed
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000259to the budget-related. I just want to ask
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000260Chairman Cordova.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000261Sir, what have you done
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000262after all these
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000263investigations by the Blue
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000264Ribbon last year? Yung ating
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000265Yung ating mga COA personnel, medyo may mga
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000266ikang
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000267pagkukulang din na lumusot po
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000268sa kanila. Have you made any
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000269changes para hindi na po maulit
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000270para hindi malusutan
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000271yung ating COA personnel?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000272Or hindi maging kasabwat
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000273sa ikang
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000274nefarious
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000275activities? Have you done
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000276something about this?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000277Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000278Sen. Tulfo. Ang ginawa po natin
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000279ay unang-una, yung po mga areas
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000280kung saan po nangyari yung mga
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000281problem sa flood control
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000282ay nagpa-fraud audit po tayo.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000283So that's number one. Number two po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000284ay yung mga personnel na
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000285doon nakasign ay nilipat na po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000286natin. Tinanggal po natin doon.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000287And then
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000288nag-file po kami ng cases against
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000289them, Your Honors.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000290How often po ang ikang
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000291rotation? Do you rotate
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000292your people? For example,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000293itong auditor na ito sa
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000294Bulacan, 1st District,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000295how long will he or she stay there?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000296Or hanggang sa magretiro siya
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000297o you rotate them para walang
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000298familiarization ng mga officials,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000299etc.? As a general
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000300rule po, three years po, Your Honors.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000301Three years. Then they get rotated?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000302Yes po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000303Kiniikot po sila.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000304Mr. Chair, one last question.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000305Ongoing po ang aming
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000306impeachment trial,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000307ang sinasabi po, ongoing
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000308din po ang inyong mga review
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000309doon po sa mga motion
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000310for reconsideration sa Office of the
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000311Vice President, and ganoon din
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000312po yung when she was with the Education
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000313Department. Ano na ho
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000314status nito?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000315We want to find out kasi
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000316her people,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000317mga former
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000318officials, they're pointing to you na
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000319they're just waiting. Sinagot naman daw nila
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000320po yung mga AOMs ninyo,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000321discrepancies, so they're
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000322waiting. Ano ho ang status na nito?
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000323And if kailan po
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000324natin malalaman,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000325your ruling or your decision na
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000326acceptable yung mga
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000327ikang
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000328evidence that they
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000329filed or ikang
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000330reasons that they submitted
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000331to your office to qualify
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000332or justify yung
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000333kanila pong expenses, lalo na po
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000334sa Confidential Fund
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000335ng agency, Chairman.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000336Thank you, Your Honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000337Yung pong tungkol po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000338sa Confidential Funds po ng
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000339Office of the Vice President,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000340galing po doon sa Fraud Audit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000341Office, nagkaroon na po ng
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000342ND doon, inakyat na po nila.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000343They had
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000344six months to bring it up
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000345to the Commission, so inakyat na po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000346sa amin ng Office of the Vice President, and we
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000347actually decided on it already, Your Honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000348We denied po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000349the appeal of the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000350OVP doon po sa
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000351office of the Vice President,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000352but they filed a motion for reconsideration.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000353Yun po ang pending po sa amin ngayon.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000354So, the
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000355first motion was denied.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000356Yes po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000356-split-2So, nasa second
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000357motion.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000357-split-2Opo.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000358The appeal po was denied, so they
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000359filed a motion for reconsideration.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000360After this, sir,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000361kung sakasakali, kung whatever happens
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000362like it's still unacceptable,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000363I mean, we're not so sure, whatever
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000364your decisions, baka may mga additional
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000365evidence po sila, documents to
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000366present, sabihin na natin na
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000367ganun pa rin po. What's going
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000368to happen na? Then they can go to
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000369the Supreme Court po, Your Honor,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000370on Rule 64 of the Rules of Court po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000371Okay. So,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000372the last recourse nila
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000373will be the Supreme Court.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000373-split-2Yes, Your Honor.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000374Is it possible po ba, or is it
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000375confidential that, can you publish
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000376our
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000377the impeachment court,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000378documentations about this,
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000379I mean, about your reports, kung sakasakaling
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000380lumabas na kayo after it's
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000381a motion for reconsideration?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000382Yeah, we will do that po. Actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000383Your Honor, we can submit a copy of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000384the decision nung nauna,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000385at saka po yung motion for
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000386reconsideration na desisyon namin pag lumabas na po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000387How many more months
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000388you have to make a decision on do sa
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000389MR po nila?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000389-split-2Siguro po mga
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000390a month or so lang po, Your Honor.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000391Tapusin na po namin.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000391-split-2Another month or so?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000392Yes, sir.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000392-split-2Thank you po, Mr. Chairman po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000393Idagdag ko lang po, Your Honor, yung pong sa
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000394Office of the DepEd naman po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000395nung pong nilabas
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000396ng ND, yung
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000397Intelligence and Confidential Funds
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000398Audit Office, yung pong ND,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000399they have until October
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000400this year, October 5
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000401po, this year, to file an appeal.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000402So, wala pa po ina-ante.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000402-split-2So, yung sa
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000403DepEd, di ba po sila nag-appeal?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000403-split-2Di pa po.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000404Yung sa OVP lang?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000404-split-2Yes.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000405Yung giving them
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000406one more month?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000406-split-2Yes.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000406-split-3Alright.
Senator Erwin Tulfo
asr-000407Thank you po. Thank you po, Mr. Chair.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000408Thank you, Senator Tulfo.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000409Thank you for your questions. That will be
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000410helpful also in our
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000411for the impeachment.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000412Just a few questions.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000413Verificatory questions.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000414Under your support to operations,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000415may 169 million na nakalaan
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000416for legal assistance services.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000417Sino-sino po ba ang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000418nag-avail ng legal assistance na ito?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000419Kasama po ba rito yung mga
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000420COA auditors and personnel who face
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000421harassment, intimidation
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000422or legal action simply because
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000423they perform their duties, particularly
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000424after issuing audit reports
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000425or notices of
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000426disallowance. I raise this
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000427because we have seen COA personnel testify
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000428even in high-profile
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000429proceedings, tulad ng impeachment,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000430including the
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000431kapag ang isang auditor ay nanindigan
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000432sa kanyang findings at ginawa
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000433lamang kanyang trabaho, dapat bang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000434may assurance siya na hindi siya
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000435pababayaan ng institusyon. So, what legal?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000436And institutional
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000437protection does COA provide
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000438to the auditors who face retaliation
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000439because of their official findings
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000440or testimonies?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000441Thank you, Your Honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000442Ascom Sabaldan po will answer that.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000443He's the head of our legal service.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000444Ascom Sabaldan, please.
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000445Good morning, Your Honor.
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000446Good morning, Senator Tulfo.
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000447COA has
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000448the so-called prosecution
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000449and litigation office,
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000450one of which functions is
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000451to assist our auditors
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000452in case of
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000453harassment suits
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000454or retaliatory suits
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000455against them.
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000456Budgetary-wise,
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000457we also have budget line item,
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000458the so-called legal assistance
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000459fund, which will
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000460cover,
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000461say, for example,
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000462if our
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000463auditors or if our
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000464former auditors will
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000465secure the assistance of a private
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000466private lawyers.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000467So, yung pong
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000468169 million allocation,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000469is it sufficient to provide
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000470for the protection of our COA
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000471auditors and personnel?
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000472I think so, sir. Pwede po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan
asr-000473Sufficient po yan.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000474Kasi talaga, recently, talagang with the
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000475high-profile cases,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000476the COA auditors have been
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000477asked to testify.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000478Hindi na ako magtatanong
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000479kasi baka sub judice tayo.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000480But I think very familiar yung mga pangalan,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000481nyo, recently.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000482So,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000483pagdating dito sa flood control,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000484fraud audits, and the continued investigation,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000485dahil itong pinakamainit, the biggest
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000486corruption
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000487scandal in the history of our government,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000488the government
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000489has confirmed the investigations into alleged
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000490flood control anomalies remain ongoing.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000491Sabi rin ng Office of the Ombudsman kanina,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000492tuloy-tuloy ang filing of cases
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000493after a year or so.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000494Ngayon, nagpa-file,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000495tuloy-tuloy pa rin po yung kanilang,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000496preliminary investigations
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000497and subsequent filing
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000498of cases.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000499So, ang ano natin,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000500ito, ongoing,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000501yung mga projects that maybe go
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000502substandard or ineffective, tuloy-tuloy pa yung
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000503investigations ng COA, as you mentioned.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000504COA has the constitutional
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000505mandate to audit public expenditures
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000506and a dedicated special audit
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000507subprogram for fraud, special
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000508and performance audit.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000509So, what is COA
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000510doing now? Kanina, partially, nasagot nyo naman na po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000511Kung ano po yung ginawa nyo rin sa mga
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000512auditors
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000513or personnel who were involved in
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000514the flood control scandal sa ghost projects.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000515Some were charged,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000516as you mentioned, Chairman.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000517So, what is COA doing now on a nationwide
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000518basis to identify and act on
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000519anomalous flood control and other
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000520infrastructure projects?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000521Mr. Chair,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000522ang una pong tinutuunan namin ng pansin ngayon,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000523we are coordinating with the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000524Office of the Ombudsman
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000525dahil yun pong aming mga auditors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000526sa mga region, sa mga
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000527probinsya, sila po ang nagiging witness po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000528ng Office of the Ombudsman sa mga cases filed
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000529in the Sandigan Bayan
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000530or in the RTC or during preliminary
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000531investigation. Also, Your Honor,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000532sa aming pong Fraud Audit Office, so far,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000533medyo busy po sila.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000534Nakatapos na po kami ng almost
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00053550 na fraud audit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000536reports.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000537And ito pong lahat,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000538Mr. Chairman, has already been submitted
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000539to the Office of the Ombudsman
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000540and ginagamit naman po nila ito dun sa
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000541mga preliminary investigation
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000542lalo na sa mga cases that they filed.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000543So, tuloy-tuloy lang po kami, and hindi
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000544naman po kahihinto, tuloy-tuloy lang
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000545po hanggang sa makover po namin lahat.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000546But of course, Your Honors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000547ang aming pong kinonsentratan
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000548sa ngayon ay yung
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000549province of Bulacan because dito po talaga
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000550ang parang lumalabas na
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000551ground zero of this
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000552flood control projects.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000553Yes, sir.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000554Okay, thank you. Chairman
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000555Gamaliel Cordoba,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000556so what is the process
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000557and expected timeline for elevating
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000558itong mga audit findings or fraud
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000559indicators to the Ombudsman? May timeline na kayo?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000560Actually po, Your Honors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000561after matapos po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000562namin, we already,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000563pagka-issue po ng
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000564fraud audit report, kasama na po ang notice of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000565disallowance, we filed it po right away
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000566with the Office of the Ombudsman.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000567Pagkatapos po, binibigay na po namin
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000568agad sa kanila, and then ginagamit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000569po nila ito sa pag-imbestiga,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000570preliminary investigation, and filing of cases.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000571Actually po yun pong aming mga
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000572fraud auditors ay ginagamitin po nila
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000573as witnesses doon po sa mga cases
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000574filed before the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000575preliminary investigation
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000576sa kanila pong, sa cases
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000577sa Sandigan Bayan at sa RTC po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000578Humaharap na po kami doon, Your Honor.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000579Okay, thank you. Lastly, we'll go up
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000580to a published consolidated findings
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000581or a public status report so
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000582Congress can track the scope,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000583results, and disposition of these audits.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000584We'll do that po, Your Honors,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000585but we will submit to you po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000586We will issue
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000587ano po, yung pong mga
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000588annual audit reports
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000589ay nagpapadala po kami
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000590sa Senate at sa
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000591House of Representatives, but we'll also
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000592publish it po as of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000593October, until
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000594October 31. Pero yung pong fraud audit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000595ay magpapadala po kami sa inyo ng
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000596physical copies dahil
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000597mas madali po ninyong magagamit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000598po ito.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000599Then I came across earlier
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000600parang news article, itong
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000601kay COA Commissioner, former
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000602Commissioner Heidi Mendoza issued a statement
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000603recently about urging COA
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000604to pursue criminal cases against
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000605government officials implicated
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000606in the misuse of public funds instead
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000607of limiting its action to
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000608issuing notices of
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000609disallowance. So may I know the reaction
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000610of COA about this?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000611Actually po, Your Honors, paglabas po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000612namin ng notice of disallowance,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000613we also endorse
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000614it to the Office of the Ombudsman po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000615Copy-furnish po sila para po if
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000616they deem fit to
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000617use the notices of disallowance
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000618and our actions
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000619to pursue cases, ay
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000620pwede po nilang gawin. And ready naman po kami
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000621makipag-cooperate and be witnesses
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000622kung kailangan po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000623In other words po, parang kami na rin po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000624ang nagpo-file sa Office of the Ombudsman, Your Honor.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000625Okay, thank you.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000626With regards to manpower
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000627complement, in terms of staffing,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000628COA has
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-00062913,378 authorized
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000630permanent positions as of June 13,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-0006312026.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-0006328,693 positions
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000633or 65% of the total
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000634are filled, leaving
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-0006354,685 positions
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000636vacant. May I request an update on the current
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000637number of positions filled,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000638including the total number of state
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000639auditors currently employed by COA.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000640Given the current
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000641staffing level, does the existing manpower
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000642sufficiently address COA's workload
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000643and enable it to fulfill its mandate
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000644as a guardian of public funds?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000645So, ito po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000646Can you give us the status?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000647Itong ano, may 4,685
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000648positions vacant po tayo.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000649Tapos, ano pa, no?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000650During the budget hearing at the House,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000651it was noted that some auditors leave COA
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000652for higher salaries.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000653So ito yung mga problema natin: greener
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000654pastures,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000655More flexible work arrangements, transfers
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000656to other agencies or retirement.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000657So, what measures or initiatives
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000658is COA proposing to improve
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000659retention, ensure the continued service
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000660of our experienced auditors?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000661Mr. Chair, may I respectfully ask
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000662Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000663to answer the question po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000664Assistant Commissioner Cabochan,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000665you have the floor.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000666Mr. Chair, good afternoon.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000667So, based on our
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000668report on the
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000669accession and separation
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000670and exit surveys,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000671show that the high separation
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000672rates outpace
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000673the momentum of our recruitment cycle.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000674And of
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-0006754,544
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000676total vacant
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000677positions,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-00067882%
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000679are auditor positions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000680So, notably po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000681ito po yung parang
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000682based on the system ranking of positions po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000683meron pong category ito.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000684May entry level ng
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000685state auditing examiner
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000686examiner 2, which is the
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000687entry level. Then,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000688after a year,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000689you are to be promoted to State Auditor 1, 2, 3, 4, up to 5.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000690So based on our records, the State Auditing Examiner 2 out of the unfilled positions
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000691consists of 832, and this is the entry level.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000692So we have already utilized it for 68% na po ito.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000693Kasi we cannot promote, we have to follow administrative rules
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000694in terms of the ranking of positions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000695So after the entry level of State Auditing Examiner, after a year,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000696this can be promoted na po sa State Auditor 1,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000697and after, we have to follow po yung system ranking of positions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000698So we're doing that po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000699So it will take, notably po, it will take,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000700a span of months because of the compliance with the administrative rules of the Civil Service po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000701So, but we, for the past years po, for the last three years po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000702we have already conducted substantial recruitment.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000703However, yung pong separation po, medyo mas, majority of the percentage po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000704goes to mandatory po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000705Ang dami na po ngayong nag-re-retire.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000706Upon reaching 60, they wouldn't like to be staying hanggang 65 po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000707And yung pong mga less than, yung mga newly recruits naman po natin,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000708mostly yung mga less than 10 years, are transferring to private, yes po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000709So, siguro, Chairman, I can ask also Commissioner Cabochan,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000710are there any specific plans to enhance compensation, improve the benefits,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000711para yung working conditions, to improve the working conditions,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000712to address these concerns na meron.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000713Sabi nyo nga na, na outpace tayo nung pag-retire sa yung recruitment,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000714tsaka yung retention, no, marami lumilipat ng ibang ahensya,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000715or go to private practice.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000716So, what are we doing?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000717Any plans to enhance the compensation benefits?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000718Actually po, your honors, ang atin pong kasing challenge is that the commission audit is,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000719we have to follow the salary standardization.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000720So, naka ano po tayo doon.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000721But as much as we can, ginagandahan naman po namin yung mga pwedeng ibigay sa tao.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000722Like, for example, for this year, we were able to bid out and finish the contract for the HMO,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000723yung pong sa aming medical benefits ng aming pong tao.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000724Tinaasan po namin yung, what's this, yung pong limits and coverage sa hospitals.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000725So, maganda naman po yun.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000726And then,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000727But co-workers are authorized to fix and determine your salaries, allowances, and other benefits for your personnel.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000728Ano po, we are,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000729Hindi po, we are, ano sir, we are, we have to follow the salary standardization.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000730Kung mapapansin niyo po, your honor, yung pong aming budget for 2027 is actually salaries po talaga.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000731Maliitan po yung MOE and then no capital expenditure po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000732So, now, we'll wait for the other centers to come, no?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000733But I'll ask that questions nonetheless.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000734Yes.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000735At this juncture, we acknowledge the arrival of our Deputy Majority Leader, Senator Joel Villanueva.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000736Thank you, sir, for joining us.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000737Thank you.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000738Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000739I'm here to support.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000740And as I have said, I am your backup guy here.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000741And, of course, we welcome.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000742Our COA family, headed by our good friend, Chairperson Del Cordoba, and our commissioners, of course, Commissioner Douglas is here.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000743Thank you.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000744Katatanong ko lang yung lagi po tinatanong sa mga ahensya.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000745Medyo malaki yung kanilang vacancies, no?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000746Yung unfilled position.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000747So, probably, COA continues to carry a large number of vacancies.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000748So, what is the realistic hiring?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000749Pero nabanggit kanina ni Commissioner Cabochan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000750But yan kanina yung mga, ano eh, no?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000751Yung mga dilema nila na they're losing to retirement, to private practice.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000752So, meron na rin sila ginagawa to improve the benefits and other, ano.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000753So, siguro, briefly lang.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000754Alam ko concern ng aking kaibigang kasama yan.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000755Okay.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000756A while ago po, we discussed that the data or the rate of the accession and separation
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000757and exit surveys.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000758It showed that the high separation rates outpaced the momentum of our recruitment
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000759cycle po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000760Of the 4,544 po, this attributed to 82% po na vacant positions for auditors.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000761Auditors positions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000762Sorry, how many again?
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-0007634,544.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-0007644,544.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000765And out of this po, 82%, which is 3,727, are auditor positions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000766Then po, dito po sa ano natin, ang auditor positions po are categorized into several
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000767levels po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000768The entry position po is State Auditing Examiner 2 po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000769So, entry level po yun, after po performance of one year, you can be promoted to State
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000770Auditor 1, State Auditor 2, State Auditor 3, hanggang 5 po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000771So, this is basically based po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000772Sa compliance po ng administrative rules ng civil service.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000773So, we follow the system ranking of positions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000774So, basically, the State Auditing Examiner 2, which is the entry level, comprises po
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000775ng 832 lang and we already utilize 68% of this.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000776But upon entry po, we have to follow po muna bago po maipromote sila.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000777So, that's why state auditor one.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000778After a while, state auditor two po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000779Yun po yung comprising noon 3,727.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000780So, yeah.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000781That's all of Mr. Chair.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000782Go ahead, Senator Villanueva.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000783I've been raising this particular issue for quite some time.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000784I think I sound like a broken record.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000785I think for every single budget deliberation here in the Senate.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000786I would raise it.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000790It has been growing, you know. I remember when I started doing this as a congressman,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000791they're only about 250 000 uh contract of uh service job orders in the country now it's about
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000792a million about a million all over the country including the lgs of course the biggest the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000793biggest violator is the local government units and that's why every time we talk about the issue of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000794security of tenure it's quite hard if not almost impossible to convince the private sector
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000795and now in koa i was looking at this uh data you have is this correct 4540 for unfilled positions
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000796and then this unfilled position nevertheless you provide a lump sum in filling up
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000797uh
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000798dispositions right so
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000799uh right now you were saying 82 percent of the 4544 are
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000800so these positions are
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000801it's either
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000802or hindi hindi talaga viable for instance i was in tesda and uh
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000803chairman liel knows about this we had this only one position for legal um uh legal services
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000804namin iisa yung abogado and then salary grade i forgot the salary grade pero
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000805pang ano talaga pang uh pang uh sg 23 yun po pang nagtitinda ng ano uh dyan sa kalye no
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000806eh abogado yun so talagang papasok no so
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000807lagyan ko yung mga naging problema in the past years we were able to uh touch on this and then
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000808there came the government's optimization program the the build that i actually uh authored as well
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000809it's now a law in fact chairman jv would would uh would know this very well because i was being the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000810vice chairman of this committee i was given the task to somehow uh sponsor the budget of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000811optical media
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000812job board and the commission on filipinos overseas which i believe should be abolished
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000813i have been pushing for it i was the author of the migrant workers act establishing the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000814department of migrant workers and we did not include the commission on filipinos overseas
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000815for that particular reason and then the omv i don't know every year i've been saying this
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000816but but but the db in the in the tbcc hearing conducted by by senator jv the executive already
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000817made mention about their plans no and one or top five perhaps would be the omv and the cfo of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000818course we are not against uh we are definitely for the protection of their workers and do
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000819naman yun meron naman tayong magandang program at plan para sa kanila ang sakin lang in every
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000820agency
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000821in every department may kanya kanya iba iba yung position nila so in koa ano yung pinaka main
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000822problem why we couldn't fill this up because last year one out of ten one out of ten in all
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000823government positions unfilled ngayon nag improve pero hindi ganun kalaki one out of 13 but i'm
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000824still monitoring it uh unfortunately uh buong buhay ko sa sa test da sa senado parang hindi
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000825usang a-pitat to define yung gusto kong puntakan but at least someone is looking at it and uh
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000826nagagawa naman na unte-unte na na bibigyan solution ng problema may we know again yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000827root cause dito sa unfilled positions uh ma'am
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000827-split-2yes po for our records will show you po though
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000828we have conducted significant efforts on the
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000829hiring po, but
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000830definitely po mas na-outweigh
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000831po yung separation.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000832Like for,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000833nakapag-hire po kami
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000834for the last five years
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000835dito na two thousand, yes po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000836for better opportunities po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000837for higher pay,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000838and yung proximity sa residence po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000839At di mapag-tay pang makasuhan.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000840Yes.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000841And yung pong alternative work arrangement
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000842din po, council at po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000843on the decision to
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000844transfer to other,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000845yes, to other offices po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000846So, yung po yung nakakasuhan.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000847Separation yung ngayon, yung umahalis.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000848Okay, sir. Ito po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000849meron akong data rito.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000850The data for the
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000851last five years po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000852Interested. Yes po. We have
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000853the accession is about two thousand
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000854five hundred twelve.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000855And the separation po is
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000856two thousand one hundred ninety-three.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000857And basically po, dito lang
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000858po kami sa last year,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000859twenty-twenty-five, nagkaroon ng
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000860positive rate. Dun lang
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000861po. Pero talaga
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000862pong, ang ano po nito,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000863ang mandatory po, na mga
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000864separation namin is five hundred seventy-five.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000865Optional po is
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000866eight hundred eighty-six.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000867Resignation
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000868four hundred twenty-two
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000869po. Ito po yung mga
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000870lumilipat. Yes.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000871For greener pasture po.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000872I asked that question, ma'am, kasi it's
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000873it could be
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000874bothering. It should be bothering
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000875to the leadership.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000876As well, because
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000877I don't know, maybe it shows
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000878that they are
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000879not being compensated well, or
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000880are we at par when you talk
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000881about, Chairman,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000882benefits and salaries with other
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000883countries?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000884Thank you, Mr. Chair,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000885Senator Joel. Actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000886ang isang malaking factor po would be
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000887the work in other countries. Dahil yung
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000888po kasing work ng accountant
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000889ay madali po silang
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000890makakuha din ng trabaho po sa ibang
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000891sa. And of course, yung mga private
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000892salaries that we're talking about.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000893I mean, how do we compare our
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000894I'm sure we're not at par, but
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000895how big is the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000896gap?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000897Wala po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000898Okay. We follow
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000899the standardization law po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000900So our entry level is state
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000901auditing examiner 2, which is
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000902around SG 13.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000903Around thirty
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000904thirty-six thousand.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000905Your Honor,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000906thirty-six thousand po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000907Then CPA ka po, and the risk
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000908of being an auditor when you
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000909will be hearing a lot of news
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000910na si auditor ganito, ganito.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000911So, maybe po,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000912yung po yung medyo hindi
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000913nakaka-entice for
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000914the newly CPAs po na
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000915pumasok to be
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000916included in their dream to be
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000917part of our workforce.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000918Part dyan, yung mental health
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000919dapat hindi ka kinakalawang
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000920na
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000921matibay ka, matigas ang
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000922matigas din ang ulo mo.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000923But anyway,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000924and then if you compare it to
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000925other countries, like
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000926in a government
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000927position, may idea po kayo?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000928Why?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000929Para lang ano natin, no? Kasi
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000930tinitignan natin yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000931yung kalagayan ng ating
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000932mga manggagawa. Chairperson tayo ng
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000933Committee on Labor.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000934So far po, Your Honor, wala po akong
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000935idea, pero definitely po kasi
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000936yung may
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000937niece is employed
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000938sa Dubai
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000939an accountant
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000940300,000
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000941if you convert it
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000942sa niece ko po yun
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000943na nandun siya
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000944That's in the private sector?
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-000945Yeah, it's a private sector.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000946But still, you're looking at about 10%
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-00094710% nung kinikita
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000948nung nandun sa abroad
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000949so that's the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000950primary reason why
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000951why
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000952why this
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000953our human resources
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000954would go for greener pastures
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000955Thank you, Mr. Chairman
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000956Thank you, sorry for interrupting
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000957Likewise, as mentioned by Chairperson
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000958Gamaliel Cordoba earlier
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000959they're improving
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000960sa HMO at this yung health
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000961benefits so probably you can
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000962briefly you can
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000963inform
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000964of what you have done for the health
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-000965benefits
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000966Ang isa po kunwari
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000967na inayos namin would be for
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000968we already
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000969got an HMO
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000970medyo mataas po ang coverage
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000971for our employees
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000972and then of course
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000973tuloy-tuloy naman po yung
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000974yung ibang ginagawa namin
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000975like
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000976pero ito po sana meron kaming
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000977proposal kung kami po inyong matutulungan
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000978Ayan na, Mr. Chairman
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000979Meron po kasi kaming
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000980proposed law
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000981on the exemption from the SSL
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000982and retirement system of the Commission on Audit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000983kung ano po yung magpapatulong kami sa inyo
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000984kasi po very important lang yung work po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-000985ng aming mga accountants
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000986I would support that, Mr. Chairman
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000987and I'd be happy to push for it
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000988Your Honor, Mr. Chairman
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000989I really think with all these
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000990things that we're talking about
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000991the percentage of workers
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000992that lives
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000993Mr. Chairman
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000994na-experience namin yan sa TESDA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000995during those times when we were trying
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000996to get as much
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000997as we can
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000998a number of assessors
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-000999teachers
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001000for example, yung master welders
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001001master carpenters
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001002after training for quite some time
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001003we give scholarships pa
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001004pagkatapos nilang gumraduate
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001005they would go abroad, definitely
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001006because 300,000 versus
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-00100730,000, it's so easy to make
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001008that decision
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001009for a blue-collar job
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001010so, ang problema nun
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001011yung mga schools
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001012yung mga test
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001013regulated
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001014not regulated, everything is regulated by TESDA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001015TESDA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001016TEIs
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001017TESDA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001018what do you call that?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001019yung mga hawak ng TESDA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001020yung directly being administered
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001021TESDA administered schools
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001022TESDA administered schools
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001023nauubusan ng guro
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001024nauubusan ng guro
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001025in the middle of the program
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001026mag-aabroad
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001027itong nakaraang mga World Cup
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001028lahat yan
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001029until now nga may tumatawag sa akin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001030for example, yung METI
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001031Middle East Institute of Technology
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001032tumawag po sa akin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001033senador na po ako
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001034he was looking for 4,000 welders
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001035akala niya nasa TESDA pa
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001036I connected with TESDA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001037they were only able to give
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001038parang less than 800 names
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001039Mr. Chairman
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001040and that's the main reason
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001041why?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001042why there's a big gap
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001043dun sa skill sets ng mga gumagraduates
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001044tsaka yung kailangan ng industry
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001045and in this case
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001046I really think na
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001047we cannot afford to
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001048to lose our human resources
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001049I don't think
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001050kailangan umasa na tayo
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001051at this time
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001052kumasa na tayo sa robots lahat
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001053Thank you, Mr. Chairman
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001054Thank you, Senator Villanueva
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001055siguro updating lang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001056sa guidelines dun
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001057sa mga confidentialities
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001058and intelligence fund
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001059total, ano kasi ito eh
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001060very hot issue
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001061very hot topic
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001062just to clarify
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001063para lang ba
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001064yung mga
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001065at least yung mga issues
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001066and confusion
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001067can be addressed
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001068I can ask such a person
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001069Coro, ma'am
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001070Assistant Commissioner
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001071Nilda Plaras
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001072kasi medyo familiar
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001073yung pangalan nyo ngayon lately
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001074tanong ko lang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001075ha?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001076ilan ba?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001077oo nga
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001078ilang notices
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001079of disallowance
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001080na-issue ninyo na?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001081ah, isa lang po
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001082okay po
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001083sige po
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001084okay po
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001085okay po
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001086we understand that
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001087the guidelines of
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001088governing the entitlement
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001089release, use, reporting
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001090and audit
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001091of confidential intelligence funds
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001092are contained
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001093in the joint circular
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001094issued on January 8, 2015
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001095as I mentioned
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001096consider the issues
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001097and conditions
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001098that have arisen
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001099particularly on compliance
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001100with the guidelines
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001101and the use of
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001102special disbursing
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001103officers
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001104or SDOs
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001105in handling
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001106and liquidating
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001107these funds
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001108do you think
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001109it is time to review
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001110and update
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001111the joint circular?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001112if yes
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001113what specific provisions
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001114should be clarified
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001115or strengthened
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001116particularly
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001117on the designation
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001118responsibilities
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001119and accountability
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001120of SDOs
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001121as well as the documentation
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001122liquidation
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001123and audit
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001124of confidential
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001125and intelligence funds
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001126ah, thank you
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001127Mr. Chair
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001128ah, ang sasagot po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001129on our side
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001130ay si
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001131Commissioner Douglas
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001132Mallillin po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001133salamat
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001134yes, Commissioner Malilin
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001135ah, please
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001136you now have the floor
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001137ah, good afternoon
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001138ah, Mr. Chair
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001139ah, Senator Villanueva
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001140ah, we have
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001141ah, after
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001142ah, all the concerns
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001143and issues that were raised
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001144regarding the confidential fund
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001145ah, we were taking a look
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001146at the joint memorandum circular
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001147which was issued in 2015
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001148practically 11 years ago
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001149and
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001150ah, the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001151last
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001152circular that was issued
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001153by COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001154was also in 1992
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001155and
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001156ah, we find that
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001157there are certain revisions
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001158that need to be
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001159ah,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001160modified
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001161or revised
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001162as far as the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001163joint memorandum circular
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001164if I may
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001165the joint circular is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001166ah, was issued
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001167not solely by COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001168this was with
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001169the DBM
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001170the Department of National Defense
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001171the DILG
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001172and the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001173ah, the GCG as well
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001174so
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001175this covers
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001176the intelligence funds
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001177and the confidential funds
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001178and we have identified
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001179certain areas
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001180that need
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001181ah, further looking into
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001182we will be sitting down
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001183with these agencies
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001184ah, with regard to
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001185what supporting documents
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001186or what has been termed
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001187as the documents
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001188evidencing payment
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001189as far as their contents
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001190specific
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001191ah, the specific data
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001192that should be contained therein
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001193how we should be able
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001194to identify
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001195assuming
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001196aliases or code names
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001197are
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001198allowed
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001199ah, there may be
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001200a certain item
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001201or a certain requirement
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001202where we have
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001203a single person
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001204who has knowledge
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001205of the actual identities
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001206of these persons
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001207as done
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001208in foreign jurisdictions
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001209then
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001210the lack of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001211evidence of success
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001212and the causal links
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001213which is a very critical feature
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001214on
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001215ah, the matter of rewards
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001216rewards being
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001217a
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001218part of the enumeration
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001219of what
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001220confidential funds
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001221and intelligent funds
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001222ah, can be spent for
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001223then the more critical is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001224which is a point of concern
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001225is how to protect
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001226the identity
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001227of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001228ah, the informants
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001229and
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001230ah, as well as
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001231from whom
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001232we purchase
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001233information from
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001234however
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001235there should be a balance
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001236between protecting
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001237the identity
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001238but also
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001239a point of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001240where COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001241based on certain clearances
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001242can actually
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001243ah,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001244take a look
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001245at the identity
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001246of the person
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001247without compromising
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001248national security
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001249and the confidentiality
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001250of the activity
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001251there is also
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001252a need
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001253to take a look
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001254at
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001255ah,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001256storage
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001257of the documents
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001258ah, COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001259and the other agencies
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001260are also
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001261taking a look
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001262at
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001263the process
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001264of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001265issuing the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001266credit notices
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001267and
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001268how the notice
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001269of disallowance
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001270should actually
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001271be dealt with
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001272and we have
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001273a few more
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001274but we deem
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001275this to be minor
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001276but overall
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001277ah,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001278we discussed
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001279the major points
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001280that we're looking
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001281at
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001282reforming
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001283the joint circular
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001284thank you po
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001285ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001286I don't know
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001287how to start
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001288Commissioner
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001289Mallillin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001290and
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001291ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001292you yourself
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001293made mention
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001294that this has been
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001295around for 11 years now
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001296and ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001297I'm sure you're monitoring
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001298what's happening
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001299in the ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001300during the impeachment
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001301ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001302proceedings
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001303no?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001304and ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001305me as a lawyer
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001306as a non-lawyer
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001307would always
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001308ask questions
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001309sa mga abogado
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001310ano ba yung ganito
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001311ano ba yung ganyan
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001312and ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001313it's good that
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001314ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001315you are here
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001316because we wanted
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001317to get more information
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001318so we can
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001319ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001320be adept
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001321in
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001322scrutinizing what has been going on. For example, the difference of disbursement or disbursing and transferring. You made mention also of the use of aliases. I'm not sure
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001323if anyone
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001324of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001325anyone
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001326perhaps
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001327assistant
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001328Commissioner
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001329Plaras
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001330knows about this
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001331with regard
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001332to the AOMs
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001333that were
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001334issued
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001335notice of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001336suspension
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001337and
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001338notice of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001339disallowance
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001340of course
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001341we don't
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001342we don't
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001343want to talk
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001344about the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001345the case
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001346per se
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001347but
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001348but
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001349in
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001350in
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001351in
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001352in
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001353in
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001354this
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001355particular
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001356ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001357ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001358ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001359proceedings
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001360no one
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001361actually brought
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001362the aliases
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001363eh
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001364dun sa mga
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001365decisions
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001366I mean
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001367the COA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001368ah,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001369COA AOMs
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001370NS
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001371and
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001372NDs
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001373no?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001374but
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001375it's really
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001376the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001377the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001378the protocol
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001379para lang alam namin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001380sa paggamit
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001381ng
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001382alias
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001383and
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001384your self-commissioner
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001385may mention na
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001386pwede mong gamitin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001387pero
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001388at the same time
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001389ah
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001390you protect
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001391the information
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001392you protect
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001393the informants
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001394but
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001395but
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001396hindi po pwede
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001397na
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001398na para-para lang
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001399na sasabihin mo lang
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001400at wala kang
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001401kahit anong
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001402pruweba
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001403and in this
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001404and at this point
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001405I wanted to ask
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001406ano yung pruweba
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001407ano yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001408yahanapin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001409ng COA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001410would AR
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001411suffice
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001412when would be AR
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001413suffice
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001414diba?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001415and again
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001416for the sake
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001417of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001418the public
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001419we are not talking about
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001420a particular case here
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001421we are talking about
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001422the general
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001423auditing
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001424policies
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001425in all
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001426the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001427intelligence
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001428funds
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001429na
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001430nagsimula
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001431noong 2015
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001432Commissioner
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001433yes
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001434please
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001435Commissioner
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001436maganda ho yan
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001437so it can be clarified
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001438kasi hindi na po
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001439hindi naman pwede sabihin
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001440na
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001441sa WNW
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001442na pag sinabing
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001443confidential
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001444or intelligence fund
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001445hindi na accountable
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001446so can you
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001447make it
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001448can you clarify
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001449para at least
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001450ngayon po
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001451mas pang malinaw na
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001452especially now
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001453that our policy
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001454now in this
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001455budget
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001456hearings
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001457now that we will
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001458only
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001459give
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001460confidential
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001461and intelligence fund
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001462to those
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001463that are involved
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001464in law enforcement
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001465national security
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001466and investigations
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001467no
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001468and
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001469the civilian agencies
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001470will not be given
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001471anymore
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001472so siguro
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001473just for clarity
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001474para maklarify lang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001475maganda yung ano ni
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001476Senator Villanueva
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001477please
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001478maraming salamat po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001479yung tanong nyo po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001480ang sinabi po namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001481kanina is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001482something moving forward
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001483if we were to revise
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001484the joint memorandum
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001485circular
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001486na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001487tandaan ho natin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001488na the joint
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001489memorandum circular
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001490was
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001491a draft
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001492was drafted
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001493by multiple agencies
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001494po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001495gustuhin man ho
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001496ng COA
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001497at the time
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001498na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001499pwede wala po kami
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001500ni chairman
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001501nung panahon na yun
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001502na ilagay ho lahat
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001503ng
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001504prueba
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001505o substantial
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001506documentation
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001507we also
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001508respected the views
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001509of the other agencies
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001510who dealt with
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001511this type of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001512the activity
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001513which is intelligence
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001514and confidential
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001515activities
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001516but moving forward po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001517moving forward po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001518we find it
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001519very important
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001520because the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001521accountability
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001522substantiation
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001523identification
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001524is now a critical
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001525part of the activity
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001526so moving forward po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001527but ang problema
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001528ho natin sa ngayon po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001529without dealing
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001530with the specifics po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001531the present joint
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001532memorandum circular po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001533does not
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001534exactly prohibit
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001535nor does it
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001536really
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001537straightforwardly
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001538allow
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001539the use of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001540aliases
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001541ang critical nga po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001542dito is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001543on the part of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001544the operational
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001545agencies
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001546is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001547the matter of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001548the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001549program itself
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001550behind
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001551the confidential
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001552expenses
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001553or the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001554intelligence expenses
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001555yun po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001556ang nakikita namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001557importante
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001558based on the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001559present
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001560drafting
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001561of the circular
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001562but moving forward po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001563napapansin po namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001564that further
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001565controls
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001566has to be
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001567placed on this
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001568because
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001569if COA comes in
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001570and looks for
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001571certain identities
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001572tulad ho ng
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001573sinasabing
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001574vault
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001575baka ho yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001576auditor ho namin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001577ang mapasok ko sa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001578vault
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001579pero biro lang po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001580I know
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001581are certain
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001582sensitivities po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001583regarding identity
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001584I will not put you
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001585on the spot
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001586Commissioner
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001587Mallillin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001588but
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001589when I was
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001590listening to the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001591to the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001592to the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001593explanation
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001594and
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001595the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001596provisions
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001597behind the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001598joint memorandum
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001599without
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001600without going
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001601through
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001602or
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001603or
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001604or
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001605or
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001606I don't know
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001607talking about
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001608any particular case
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001609I find it
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001610I find it
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001611ano eh
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001612I think there are
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001613some loopholes
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001614in that particular
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001615joint memorandum
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001616circular
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001617and
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001618and you yourself
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001619were saying
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001620and I wanted to ask you
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001621you think
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001622because I strongly believe
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001623that it should be
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001624revisited
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001625do you think that
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001626it should be revisited
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001627yes po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001628we agree po
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001629yeah
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001630because there's a problem
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001631there eh
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001632for example
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001633dun sa
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001634role of a
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001635disbursement
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001636officer
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001637siya ba talaga
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001638yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001639tanging
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001640nag-iisa
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001641na magdi-disburse
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001642lahat ng funds
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001643sa lahat ng
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001644informants
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001645sa buong Pilipinas
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001646you don't expect
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001647I mean I don't think
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001648COA is expecting
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001649a
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001650single individual
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001651who would do that
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001652or
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001653pupwede ba
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001654up to
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001655what extent
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001656the disbursement
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001657officer
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001658would be able
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001659to delegate
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001660dahil dun sa memorandum
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001661hindi. And
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001662you know, I'm also
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001663interested on this particular
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001664issues because
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001665ang mga LGUs mayroon din eh.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001666Mga local government units. And I think
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001667you know, during
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001668the hearings
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001669may mga LGU officials
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001670asking or texting me
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001671parang takot na takot na din
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001672sila. How do they use
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001673their intelligence funds, etc.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001674Yung iba ayaw na. Yung iba
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001675sinasabi naman na hindi namin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001676afford na hindi gamitin.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001677Kailangan talaga namin, etc.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001678Sir, please.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001679Magandang tanong ho yun.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001680Ganito po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001681Sa Joint Memorandum Circular,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001682ang requirement po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001683the SDO must be the one personally
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001684to hand over the cash
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001685dun sa recipient
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001686dahil po at the end
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001687End user to no?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001687-split-2Yes po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001688Exactly. Because po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001689magbibigay po itong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001690SDO ng certification
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001691na inabot nga po niya
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001692yung pera sa tao na to.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001693Wala pong limitasyon
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001694kung ilang SDO po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001695ang pwedeng gamitin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001696po ng isang opisina. Kung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001697lokasyon po ang problema, tulad
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001698ho nung simula po Aparri
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001699hanggang Jolo, ang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001700kailangan hong bigyan,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001701nasa head of agency o nasa ahensya
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001702po, ang pamamaraan kung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001703sino ang assigned SDO.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001704Ang importante
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001705lang po sa SDO ay
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001706may mga requirements po eh.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001707Accountable officer,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001708bonded,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001709at ang wala naman po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001710sinatawag tayong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001711ang iisa lang po pwede.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001712Ang ginagawa po ay
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001713to make everyone accountable.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001714Lalong-lalong na po kung malaki-laki
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001715ho yung pera.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001716Iba-ibang SDO dahil iba-iba
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001717naman po yung programa.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001718Maraming agencies.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001719Based with the SDOs po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001720because ang importante po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001721ay maparating ho yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001722pondo at yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001723SDO po, dapat kakilala rin po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001724niya yung pinagbibigyan.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001725Dahil yung magbibigay ho ng
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001726acknowledgement receipt o yung tinatawag
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001727naming documents evidencing
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001728payment ay yung mismo pong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001729kaharap niya.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001730Meron pa nga hong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001731pangalawang dokumento o libro
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001732na nire-require sa SDO po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001733Hindi lang po yung tinatawag
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001734naming acknowledgement receipt.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001735Ito po yung, meron pong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001736journal requirement po yan eh
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001737na tinatago niya, nilalagay sa vault.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001738Nasa Joint Memorandum
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001739Circular po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001740Pati si
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001741IF.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001742IF only.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001743Pati sa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001744military.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001745Sa military po, iba ang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001746proseso ng mga dokumento.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001747Pero meron pong libro
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001748na requirement na
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001749sige.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001750Yung, yun lang po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001751Basta, yung SDO po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001752can be multiple.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001753There is no limit.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001754As long as proper management
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001755and proper bonding and
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001756accountability can be had.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001757Yes, because it would be
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001758extremely impossible
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001759for just one person to
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001760distribute all these
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001761funds nationwide.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001762So, yun.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001763Ano ho, sa akin yun, no?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001764Game changer yun.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001765Yung nasabi nyo, hindi naman
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001766kailangan isa lang.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001767And another thing that I'd like
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001768to ask.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001769In the Joint Memorandum
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001770Circular,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001771on the issue of rewards,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001772yung successful
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001773dapat bago bigyan ng
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001774reward, no?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001775And,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001776sa militar,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001777sa LGUs,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001778as a matter of policy,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001779when you're buying an
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001780information, definitely,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001781you don't expect them to
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001782give you an official receipt.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001783Unlike if it is,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001784medicine or
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001785equipment
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001786or gamit, office
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001787equipment, no?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001788But if you're
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001789trying to get information,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001790yeah, I would assume yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001791acknowledgement receipt is
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001792will suffice.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001793But,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001794can you use it
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001795for reward system?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001796Because the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001797joint circular
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001798is very strict on the use
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001799of the category,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001800reward, na dapat
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001801successful. And then, how do you define
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001802successful? When you prevent something
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001803from happening, a bad
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001804thing that would happen, na prevent
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001805ng information, etc.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001806That's considered
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001807successful. Pero, who would
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001808also say na
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001809successful?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001810I mean, I'm sorry, I have
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001811multiple questions there, but I think
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001812you get my point. And I just want to be
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001813clarified as to,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001814what we can do and how we can
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001815improve and
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001816clearly explain to the public
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001817our current policy.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001818Thank you for
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001819the question, po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001820Our present joint memorandum
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001821circular, po, under
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001822clause 4.8,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001823dito po nakalista kung saan
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001824pwedeng gastusin ang confidential funds.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001825Magkaibang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001826magkaiba po ang purchase
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001827of information. Ito po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001828unang paragraph, yung unang numero.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001829Yung payment of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001830rewards to informers, kakaibang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001831gastus po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001832Pag tinignan po nyo yung payment
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001833to informants,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001834simpleng-simple lang po ito.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001835Kailangan lang po ito para
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001836pag-formulate ng programa,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001837mga aktividades at mga proyekto
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001838for the national
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001839security and for peace and order.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001840Pag reward po ang pinag-uusapan
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001841po natin, kakaiba.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001842Pag sinabi po natin reward,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001843may kaakibat na success.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001844At mas mahigpit po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001845ang pag-audit ng reward.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001846Ang sinasabi po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001847the moment we pay rewards to
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001848informers,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001849ang unang condition po, hindi po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001850pwedeng empleyado ito ng ahensya.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001851So dapat po
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001852outside the agency.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001853Ang pangalawang condition po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001854dapat approve po ito
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001855ng ulo ng ahensya or the head
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001856of the agency,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001857and if it is a GOCC,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001858yung chairman po ng kanyang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001859board. Yung pangalawang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001860requirement po, it is
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001861supported with documents
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001862evidencing the success of the
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001863information gathering and
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001864surveillance activities.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001865Hindi ho ito limitado
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001866sa pag-aresto,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001867dahil kaya nga ho nabigan na reward.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001868Hindi kailangan na makonvict
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001869bago may bigay reward.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001870Importante lang po, may positibong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001871nangyari, at
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001872yung reward, kaya ho inaabot.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001873Pag wala pa hong
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001874success, assuming gusto
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001875lang ho natin ayusin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001876yung programa o yung confidential
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001877activity, hindi po reward yun.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001878Payment of information.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001879Explain further yung third
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001880ninyo.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001881Yung binanggit po ninyo, I'm sorry,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001882I might not be able to catch
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001883some phrases you mentioned. Dun sa third,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001884yung sa una, yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001885success, not an employee, head of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001886the agency approving the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001887reward.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001888And then yung third?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001889Yung third?
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001890It must be supported
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001891with documents evidencing
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001892the success of the information
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001893gathering or surveillance
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001894activities on account
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001895of the information given by
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001896the informer.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001897So, kailangan
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001898may preba ng success.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001899Kung very general po yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001900wording ng success,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001901medyo
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001902proof there. Diyan sa
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001903latest
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001904statement, the proof there would be
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001905nothing happened.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001906Sabihin lang po natin, we're looking at
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001907PDEA.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001908Nag-surveillance.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001909Binigyan ho niyan,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001910nung una, nagbigay ho siya ng
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001911payment for information.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001912So, based on that,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001913may natiktikan po silang
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001914let's say po, courier or
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001915pusher.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001916The moment po, based on that information,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001917nahuli po yung pusher.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001918Ang mangyayari po dyan,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001919so, may payment
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001920of success,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001921ang preba ho could be affidavits
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001922of arrest of police
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001923personnel,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001924detention, mga litrato
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001925po na nangyari to nung panahon
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001926na to, nahuli to dahil sa
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001927impormasyon na to.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001928Hindi, kung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001929acknowledgement receipt lang po ang binigay natin
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001930for reward, it will
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001931not comply po with this.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001932So, ang mangyayari
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001933ho dyan, disallowed ho kaagad, dahil
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001934hindi ho napatunayan
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001935yung success.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001936In that particular situation and
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001937example that you have given us,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001938kahit hindi mahuli, pero
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001939nalaman, natuntun, this is the same
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001940group that they are after, kahit
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001941hindi nahuli, nakatakas, pero alam,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001942tama yung information na nakuha,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001943that's, ano, pwedeng
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001944bigyan ng reward yun.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001945Magkakaroon po ng documentation ngayon
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001946na natunugan yung
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001947grupo.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001948Tapos, sabihin ho natin,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001949surveillance.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001950Yes.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001950-split-2At the same time po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001951magkakaroon ng mga dokumento
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001952ho yan. But, importante
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001953yung dokumento na yun. May pang-apat po.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001954It must be
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001955directly related to the conduct
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001956of the specific confidential
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001957activities of authorized agencies.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001958Kaya nga po, kung titinan ho nyo
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001959yung kabuuan ng confidential
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001960activities, meron ho ang proposal
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001961which is the program.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001962Ang kasunod po nun ay,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001963ito, mandato ng ahensya.
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001964Ang kasunod po nun,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001965kung hindi po konektado at napakalayo
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001966naman po,
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001967we might be violating po, the last
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001968condition for payment of
COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin
asr-001969rewards po.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001970Related to their programs or advocacies
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001971or mandate of the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001972agency.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001973Thank you.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001974Mr. Chairman, if I will go to
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001975another topic,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-001976if we...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001977Meron lang ano, singit lang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001978Senator Villanueva, your indulgence.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001979Question from media, ano na daw
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001980ang status ni COA Commissioner
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001981Mario Lipana na sumabit
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001982din sa flood control scandal?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001983Update lang, and then si Senator Villanueva na.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001984Yeah, Mr. Chair,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001985Senator Villanueva, si
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001986si ano po, si Commissioner Lipana
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001987is naka-leave po siya
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001988because of medical...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001989Pero matagal na, no?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001990Medyo matagal na yung kanyang condition, no?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001991Yes, pero sometimes po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001992pumapasok naman siya, sometimes hindi.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001993Because he goes to
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001994Singapore po ata for
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001995for treatment.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001996Up to when is the authorized na no?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-001997Yung kanyang medical leave?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001998I just don't have the
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-001999details. Pero
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002000hanggang next week.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002001Hanggang next week po, your honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002002September 7 po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002003September 9, sorry. So it's September 9.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002004You know, I...
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002005It's kind of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002006something that
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002007is very dear to my heart, itong
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002008flood control
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002009issues, especially in my
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002010beloved province.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002011And Senator JV would attest to this.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002012I have been raising this particular issue
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002013for quite
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002014some time since 2020.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002015And every year, and just recently,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002016I stood again in the plenary to
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002017deliver a privileged speech on this particular
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002018topic. I am not
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002019in any way
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002020leaving.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002021On this particular topic
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002022because this is one of the main reasons
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002023why I run for the Senate.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002024And unfortunately,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002025ito nga ho yung nangyari.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002026Just recently, baha ho
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002027sa loob mismo ng bahay namin,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002028Mr. Chairman.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002029And it's getting worse.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002030Yung mga lugar na...
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002031Ako, maniwala
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002032kahit sa hindi, 50 anos na ako.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002033Pero in 50 years, di ko pa
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002034nakitang pinasok yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002035ilang mga lugar sa amin,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002036aming probinsya. So, this is
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002037the worst. I am
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002038telling you, this is the worst.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002039Of course, hindi lang
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002040ang sinisisi natin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002041yung flood control projects.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002042Merong issue ng
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002043basura, may issue ng
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002044global warming,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002045etc. Siyempre, main yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002046flood control
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002047projects. And I've been
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002048sounding like a broken
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002049record. Palpak yung mga
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002050flood control projects.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002051I can show you all the
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002052TSNs here. In this particular
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002053room, ilang beses na nag-hearing dito.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002054Paulit-ulit po ako.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002055Hindi integrated yung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002056walang master plan, hindi integrated,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002057etc. So, ang tatanong ko sa COA,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002058I remember na
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002059kayo po ay nagko-conduct
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002060ng mga fraud audits
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002061sa, particularly ho,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002062sa probinsya namin. And
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002063please, no holds barred po ito.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002064Pwede nyo po bang sabihin kung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002065ano ho yung naging resulta?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002066Pwede nyo rin sabihin, kahit sa
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002067harap ni Chairman JV, hindi po ako
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002068mahihiya sabihin kung
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002069si Joel Villanueva ba
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002070kasama dyan sa mga projects
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002071ng flood control,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002072sa mga nakita po ng COA.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002073I don't know if this has been
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002074publicized already. Mr. Chairman,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002075if we can, thank you.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002076Thank you, Mr. Chairman,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002077Senator Villanueva.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002078Okay, i-reiterate ko lang po
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002079yung reason kung ba't sa Bulacan po kami
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002080nag-start.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00208198 billion or 18%
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002082of the total worth of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002083flood control projects implemented by
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002084DPWH from 2022 to 2025
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002085ay sa Bulacan po napunta.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-00208618, almost 20%.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002087And then, ah sorry, region 3
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002088po pala, region 3.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002089Yes, opo. And then
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002090almost 50% of that
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002091or 45% to be exact
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002092ay nasa Bulacan po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002093So, dun po talaga kami
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002094nag-concentrate. So, as of
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002095today, nagkaroon po kami
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002096ng...
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002097How many projects? Kung ilan po ito?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002097-split-2Marami po ito.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002098Marami.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002099Marami po ito. But so far
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002100ang fraud audit po namin, tuloy-tuloy
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002101naman.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002102So far, nasa almost 50 na po kami.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002103Almost 50.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002104And then, iba-iba po yung nakita namin.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002105But marami po sa kanila talagang defective or non-existent.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002106So, yun po ang aming naging conclusion doon sa fraud audit.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002107So, we issued notice of disallowances.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002108And we already submitted this to the Office of the Ombudsman.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002109Dati po, nung nandiyan pa po yung ICI, we submitted the ICI to the Office of the Ombudsman also.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002110Now, doon po kasi sa mga NDs that we issued and sa flood control projects,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002111meron po kasi dyan tinatawag na persons liable.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002112So, makikita po namin, we can submit it to you, we can submit it to the Honorable Finance Committee.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002113At makikita po nyo yung mga persons liable, nandoon naman po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002114It's really the DPWH people yung po nag-i-implement.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002115Because it's the budget of the DPWH and it's their personnel po sa Bulacan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002116Wala naman po si Sen. Joel doon at hindi naman siya implement or he's a legislator.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002117Would you know if there are projects being pushed by politicians in these particular areas na inaudit ninyo?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002118Wala po kaming nakikita eh.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002119But what we see is yung implementing agency which is the DPWH po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002120Nasa JA po kasi yun.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002121Can we also ask, dito sa 50 fraudulent, I mean 50 fraud audits, yung breakdown po binabanggit nyo,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002122some were ghosts, some were, do we have a breakdown already?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002123Kung ilan doon yung talagang ghosts, yung ilan doon yung substandard, extremely substandard materials yung ginamit?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002124We don't have it right now but we can submit po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002125So far po, majority po, wala po siya.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002126With the indulgence of Sen. Villanueva, siguro Chairman Lielo, we would like to, can you submit to the committee
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002127yung list ng inyo pong investigation on which projects are found to be irregular, yung pong may ghosts,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002128or basta hindi po substandard because our policy right now in this budget hearings is to resume flood
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002129control projects to complete the uncompleted ones.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002130Kasi nakita naman natin ang naging epekto ngayon.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002131Because for 2026 talagang ziniro, flood control, ang nangyari tuloy talagang may mga puwang, may mga gaps, mga uncompleted.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002132So which were said, kasi naipon mo yung tubig pero puwapasok naman yung tubig.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002133So our instruction is also to complete the uncompleted projects, tapusin yung mga dapat tapusin, close the gap,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002134but we would want a list of these projects which we would, yung inyo pong nag-undergo ng investigation
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002135which are found to be fraudulent, yung pong substandard para po sa amin pong pag-review
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002136and then we will only allow those uncompleted projects that are not irregular or fraudulent.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002137So we appreciate the submission of this investigation.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002138We commit to submit that, Your Honor.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002139Lahat po ng aming fraud audit reports, we'll also summarize it po para po mas madali makita.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002140And at the same time, we'll also submit the report na comprehensive per item.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002141Idagdag ko lang din po na as early as 2016, Your Honors, the Commission Audit in charge of the DPWH
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002142has already issued an observation po na wala po kasing...
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002143master plan yung pong paggawa ng pong flood control.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002144So kumbaga po kanya-kanya po siya, but I think it has to be closed.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002145Tama po kayo, nagkaroon ng gaps eh.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002146So kasi po wala master plan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002147So there has to be a master plan and para lahat po nakasarado.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002148Otherwise po, ang nangyari po kasi...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002149Sir, I'm a witness. My colleague here has been ranting about this year in and year out ever since 3-4 years ago.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002150Ang problema talaga, we were going back.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002151I had a post 2014 on the importance of a master plan for all projects.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002152Hindi lang flood control, but I have been advocating a master plan for infrastructure and national development
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002153which would include transport modernization, yung sa power, sa energy.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002154Kasaba na rin po yung water management and flood control.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002155Ang nangyari dito...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002156Ang nangyari dito...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002157Siguro, Chairman Liel, yung ibang projects, sorry na lang po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002158Kahit walang Regional Development Council approval, kahit wala sa master plan, kahit walang convergence, kahit hindi kailangan,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002159talagang isinagawa para pagkakitaan.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002160Mukhang gano'n na lumalabas, lalo rin sa mga nag-ghost.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002161So in order, I think we would need your [unclear].
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002162You'll be a big factor in how we will be able to bring back that confidence
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002163and trust, especially in this budget season, by providing us with this list.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002164Yung pong hinihingi na api kanina.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002165Tsaka yung pong, siguro yung pong isa tungkol sa master plan.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002166Do you think, Chairman Liel, that in case we push itong talagang may master plan pa,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002167this will definitely prevent occurrence of projects that are not needed and are intended only to, alam nyo na,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002168to enrich some people's pockets.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002169Hindi kailangan eh.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002170So what are what we want now?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002171We want RDC approval or at least a provincial approval to make sure that these projects are needed.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002172Hindi yung basta lang po project eh para pagkakitaan.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002173So I'm asking your guidance also and what you think na amin pong sinasagawa.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002174Ito po yung hinihingi natin.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002175RDC approval, program of works, tapos basta po nasa flood-prone, top 10 flood-prone provinces
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002176or it can be used as justification.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002177There are 18 major river basins in the absence of a master plan.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002178So siguro these are the considerations that we would have in order for us to approve flood control projects this time.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002179So yung pong ano namin.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002180Siguro, ano na po, your thoughts, Chairperson?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002181We agree po, Your Honors.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002182Actually, sabi ko nga po sa inyo, as early as 2016, nag-issue na po ng observation ng Commission on Audit on that.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002183And just to mention...
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002184I understand when you were mayor po of San Juan, kasi dati po ang San Juan binabahat.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002185So I think when you were there, marami po kayong nagawa, kaya po nabawasan ito ng...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002186Actually, siguro, if flood control, if done right, can really be effective.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002187Not to...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002188Hindi ko naman siya inaangat sa sarili.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002189But you know, ano to, sinasabi ko, Sen. Villanueva, ano yung sa Navotas,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002190under, ano to, below sea level.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002191Pero by placing strategic pumping stations in strategic areas, natanggal nila Toby Tiangco yung baha.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002192Naginaya po namin sa San Juan.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002193We have about five or six barangays that are low-lying areas.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002194Basin, na kahit dalawang linggo nang walang ulan, baha pa rin.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002195Dati, 15 to 20 feet, ang lalim.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002196Pero ngayon, halos na wala.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002197Unfortunately, may isa na lang doon na naiwan, na inirata.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002198Na nirequest ko kay Bonoan at kay Bernardo noon na hindi pinagbigyan.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002199Ayaw kasi nung congressman namin dahil ayaw nung mayor.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002200So may isa na lang doon nababaha.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002201Kung meron, yun na lang yung naiwan doon.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002202So sabi ako, nagkiusap ko sa DPWH sila na kung ano pa mangyari, basta gawin nyo na lang.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002203So thank you for that, for yung pong sa San Juan na mention nyo.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002204And I think it was the Navotas that we followed.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002205Naging yung Bombastik pumps nila na kami pong ginaya.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002206Thank you.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002207Sige po, please continue.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002208San Juan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002209Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002210And let me put on record that I am a living testimony of what you have been espousing here in the Senate.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002211And since the time you were the mayor of the great city of San Juan, yung pinupush po ninyo na master plan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002212At you're not only supporting me with the master plan ng flood control.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002213But yun nga po, ako, lagi akong supportive doon sa mga gusto nyo yung mga infrastructure projects,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002214especially doon sa transportation, sa railways, etc.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002215Kaya mapalad kayo, Senator JV, at nagawan ng paraan yung San Juan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002216At kami hanggang ngayon sa Bulacan, still suffering.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002217Literally, figuratively, physically, mentally, and sometimes spiritually.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002218Mr. Chairman, just to put on record, Mr. Chairman, and I'd like to give this information to our COA family headed by Chairman Cordoba.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002219Yung po sa amin sa Bulacan, for example, doon sa Paumbong, sa Paumbong, sa Barangay Cruz,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002220tsaka Barangay Masukol, eh hindi na po baha yung problema nila.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002221Kasi nasanay na po sila.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002222Na hanggang dibdib, lagpas tao, at kahit summer, bumabaha po sa kanila.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002223Ang problema po nila ngayon, unti-unti nang kinakain nung dagat, yung lupa, nung barangay.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002224Itong Barangay Santa Cruz, tsaka Barangay Masukol, about 3,000 siguro yung mga residents po dyan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002225At unfortunately, sabi nga nila, hindi na yung baha problema namin.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002226Kasi kinakain na ng lupa, mabuburan na kami sa mapa.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002227Ganon din po yung kalagayan sa Hagonoy, Bulacan, sa Barangay Pugad at Barangay Tibagin.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002228Ano naman yung nangyari dito sa dalawang barangay na ito?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002229Before the fiasco, before this erupted, the kasuklam-suklam na mga pangyayari about flood control,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002230meron pong breakwater at seawall dyan sa dalawang barangay na yan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002231Meron na po siya.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002232Pero dahil gagawin at palalakihin, patitibayin, i-strengthenin yung seawall, binakbak na po nila.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002233Sisimulan na eh, gagawin na po.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002234Nung gagawin na po, natigil lahat ngayon ng flood control.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002235So ano nangyari?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002236Nung binakbak, nasira lalo dahil bawal ang flood control, dahil maraming siraulong kurakot na dapat dyan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002237Talagang ako, fight ako sa firing squad eh, sa mga taong ganyan eh.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002238Eh, hindi po ginawa.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002239Nung hindi po ginawa, hanggang ngayon ho, ilang taon na, na wala ho ni Pondo or anything, Mr. Chairman, wala ho at hindi na gagawa.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002240Nagsimula na rin pong kainin ng dagat yung lupa.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002241To cut the story short, ito hong mga barangay na ito, sa barangay Paumbong,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002242at barangay...
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002243Ah, dun po sa bayan ng Paumbong, barangay Santa Cruz, barangay Masukol,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002244sa Hagunoy, barangay Pugat, barangay Tibagin, sa Hagunoy.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002245Eh, hindi na po problema nila yung ba.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002246Ang problema nila, mawawala na po sa mapa yung kanilang mga barangay.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002247There's one in barangay, Mr. Chairman, in Hagunoy,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002248na I have to call the attention of the DPWH Secretary because
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002249I forgot the name of barangay.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002250I think Santa Cruz also.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002251In Hagunoy, meron naman po doon kasama doon sa problema na may kaso.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002252And according to them, may gate po eh, may gate.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002253Hindi ho magamit yung gate. Bumabaha na po.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002254Dahil ang sabi lang daw ay hindi po pwedeng galawin yan dahil may kaso yan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002255The good thing, I don't know the real situation and ayokong makialam doon sa mga kaso-kasong ganyan
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002256dahil ngayon pag nakialam,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002257kaya nadadamay ka eh.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002258Si Secretary Vince, nagutos right away, the next day ho, naggalaw po yung gate.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002259I don't know kung nakipag-coordinate po yata sa COA or other agencies in the government.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002260But thanks to Sec. Vince, naggalaw po yun.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002261Malaking naging ginhawa.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002262Kasi imagine, yung gate lang, ibababa lang po, di ba?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002263Dahil lang daw po may kaso, hindi po ginawa.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002264So, nag-suffer yung buong barangay.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002265Yun lang po yung mga maliliit na bagay na gano'n.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002266And I hope, ang COA naman natin, hindi naman in the box yan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002267I don't think yung COA natin, extremist yung mga COA auditors natin
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002268para yung mga ganitong bagay na ito, hindi matulungan yung mga kababayan po natin.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002269So, yun lang po, Mr. Chairman, gusto kong ipaabot sa ating mga kasama sa COA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002270na malaking tulong ang kailangan ng mga kababayan natin.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002271Lalo na po doon sa mga apektado ng baha.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002272Dahil nakakasunog ang apoy, hindi na po tayo magluluto at papatayin natin sa gutom yung ating mga kababayan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002273I'm really not happy na wala hong flood control the past year program kahit na ito'y nararapat.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002274And records will bail me out.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002275Hindi ako sumuporta sa mga flood control programs because hindi ko nakikita na ito'y integrated
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002276at may master plan.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002277That's the only reason.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002278And these committees in the Senate, mga senador nakasama ko at mga nakatrabaho ko,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002279alam po yung dahilan kung bakit ganito yung aking adhikain dito sa usapin nito.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002280Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002281Thank you, Senator Villanueva.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002282Actually, sa totoo lang, that's why we wanted also to resume the flood control projects.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002283The uncompleted one, that is.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002284Because we have seen that...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002285Dito sa monsoon rains, wala pa ngang bagyo ito.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002286Tuloy-tuloy na ulan, lubog ang Metro Manila, lubog ang Bulacan, lubog ang Pampanga, hanggang Tarlac.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002287So, ano eh.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002288Well, iba na rin talaga yung climate change.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002289But still, we need to resume the flood-mitigating projects, especially the complete, the uncompleted.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002290Siguro wala namang masama roon, Chairman, di ba, as long as these projects are not found to be irregular or substandard.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002291I think this will be more beneficial as it would prevent the further suffering of the people in Bulacan and Pampanga and even Metro Manila and Tarlac.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002292At least kung ma-mitigate natin, mabawasan natin yung pagbabaha, masara natin yung gaps, kasi mas masama yung may puwang eh.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002293Tubig yan. Maghahanap talaga ng papasukan yan.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002294Tapos pinipigilan mo namang mawala yung tubig para mawala yung baha.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002295So parang naging ano siya.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002296So ang ano natin is to close the gaps.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002297And also, if I would, magsimula tayo, Senator Villanueva, yung NIA and DPWH.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002298Dapat dito,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002299in the absence of a master plan, convergence na.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002300And then sa taas pa lang dapat meron nang water impounding.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002301Tapos nakaano yan ng flood control, water impounding.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002302Kasi pag tag-ulan, sobra-sobra ulan natin.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002303Pag tagtuyot naman, walang-wala tayo, di ba?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002304So I think we should change yung view, yung view eh na yung tubig hindi dapat perwisyo.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002305Dapat treated as a resource.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002306Pero gawin natin.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002307Kailangan natin ng tamang flood water management, I think.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002308Yun ang atin pong direksyon, di ba?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002309Sige, Chairperson Cordoba.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002310Thank you for, salamat po sa lahat ng binanggit ninyo.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002311Actually po, Your Honors, if may mga kailangan po na i-cover sila DPWH,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002312kagaya po nung binabanggit ninyo, kasi may kaso, hindi pwedeng gawin.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002313Kung kailangan po, we're willing to sit down on an item per item with the DPWH.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002314And actually, we're doing it po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002315Pagka po may mga question sila,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002316tinutulungan namin sila para
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002317magawa po nila kahit po may mga pending na kaso, pending na mga legalities.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002318But importante po yung public service ay tuloy-tuloy.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002319Hindi po siya dapat huminto.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002320Salamat po.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002321One last issue.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002322If there's nothing more about the flood control program.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002323Tinitingnan ko lang po kasi itong COA's Technical Services and Systems Audit Subprogram
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002324that targets only 18 ISIT audit or
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002325evaluation reports in 2027. Is that level of coverage sufficient given government's accelerating digitalization
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002326and growing cybersecurity and information system risk?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002327Nakita ko lang ho yung 2027 target, 18 ISIT audit or evaluation reports.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002328Sandali lang po.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002329Sige, please.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002330Yes, sorry.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002331We just want to be clarified on this, how it prioritizes systems for audit and whether existing personnel
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002332and technology ay sufficient po dito to cover yung high-risk government information systems?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002333Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair, Sen. Villanueva.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002334Si Ascom Isidro po ang sasagot po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002335Thank you.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002336Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Sen. Villanueva.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002337Please proceed.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002338We have an office called the Internal Information Technology Audit Office under the Systems and Technical Services sector that does the IS audit and IT technical evaluation of procurement contracts and other contracts.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002339At present, we have only 64 warm bodies.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002340But ideally, the office needs 164 manpower with an existing approved plantelia of 81 plantelia positions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002341And these 64 warm bodies consist of auditors and administrative personnel, including...
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002342We also have...
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002343Certified Information Systems Auditor.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002344We have Public Procurement Specialist, Certified Fraud Examiner, Certified Public Accountants, and other disciplines consisting the office.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002345So ito, magandang problema yata ito, kasi you have 64 but you have 81 available.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002346Tama ba yung pagkakaintindi ko, ma?am?
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002347Yes po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002348Yes po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002349Per our record, ma?am.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002350Pero hindi ninyo ma-fill up at the same problem that you are talking about?
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002351For the Information Systems Auditors, there is a certain criteria that need to be satisfied.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002352Like, they need to be...
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002353I'm sure. I was the head of agency before.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002354So hindi ma-satisfy yun, kaya hindi ma-fill up?
COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro
asr-002355At present po, hindi po ma-satisfy po.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002356Yun yung dahilan kung bakit
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002357ko tinatanong yung questions ko kanina.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002358Is there a way that we can somehow adjust?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002359Yun talaga kasi yung kailangan?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002360At wala talaga tayong makikita?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002361Hahanap ba tayo sa Milky Way Galaxy?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002362Mag-train tayo sa TESDA?
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002363Your Honor, it's really...
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002364We are...
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002365We are...
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002366Dependent po kasi talagang sa compliance ng administrative rules ng civil service.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002367So, kaya nga po kasi nasa standardization law po kami under.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002368So, we really need to follow yung system ranking oppositions.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002369So, hindi po kami ka...
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002370Yung higher levels po kasi, for example,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002371as yung entry level is so low,
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002372pero you cannot hire po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002373Maglulundag ka ng salary grades kasi that is against dun sa administrative rules po ng civil service.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002374And that will be addressed dun sa binabanggit ni Chairman na panukalang batas na ipupush po namin.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002375Yes po.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002376If we are to be exempted sa standardization.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002377Because otherwise, kahit ilang Pasko yung dumating, hindi ninyo ma-fill up-an.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002378Yes, even po na meron ka talagang qualified.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002379Yan yung mga hinaharap.
COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan
asr-002380At the bottom, hindi ko po makakapag more than three salary grades.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002381I got that. I know where you're coming from.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002382I experienced that personally when I was with TESDA.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002383Anyway, one last.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002384Yung financial management, nakita ko lang COA's own 2025 audit.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002385You identified accounting deficiencies involving approximately 5.1 billion pesos.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002386What accounts for the scale of...
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002387of these deficiencies, and what corrective measures?
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002388May independent audit eh, in-identify various accounting deficiencies totaling 5.1 billion.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002389The amount does not by itself mean funds siguro that were lost or misused.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002390But it is significant enough to perhaps get an explanation what this is.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002391I got this from our LBRMO.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002392Sa page 17, number 4.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002393Various accounting deficiencies noted amounted to 5.101 billion as at year-end.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002394LBRMO. Dito po, sa Senado po ito.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002395Kaya nung nakita ko, sabi ko i-raise ko ito eh.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002396You're not aware of this?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002397Hindi po, your honor.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002398Okay.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002399Okay, I'll set it.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002400This is part of the audit report ng COA.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002401Audit observation number 4.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002402But anyway, I will just furnish a copy nito.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002403Thank you.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002404Just wanted to make sure that we'll be able to clarify this.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002405Kasi nagulat lang ako dun sa 5 billion eh.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002406I'm sure wala namang meaning where they're...
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002407May misuse or loss of funds.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002408It's just that I think we need to explain this further
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002409para lang maset natin yung high standards ng COA.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002410Salamat, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002411That will be all.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002412And again, let me put on record my sincerest thanks and gratitude
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002413to the men and women of COA for your service.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002414And most of all, I'd like to put on record my full support
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002415for the...
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002416approval of this briefing so that we can proceed
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002417for plenary action of their budget, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002418Thank you.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002419Thank you, Senator Villanueva, for your support
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002420to our Commission on Audit.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002421Alam mo, ang hirap ng Commission on Audit,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002422ang tingin sa mga auditor, madalas, kontrabida eh.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002423Parang pag nakikita ito, lalo ng mga LG,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002424nako, ito na naman ito, mga kontrabida.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002425But you know, this...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002426Auditors, state auditors, provide the checks and balances.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002427Make sure that money is well spent in government, diba?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002428Kaya kailangan namin kayo dito, especially in our...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002429in our trust to bring back the confidence of people in government, no?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002430Na napakalaking bagay, lalo na dito sa ating budgeting.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002431Before we end, I would like to ask some questions from our...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002432kasi iniinvolve namin yung civil society organizations, no?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002433So that...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002434Ito mga watchdogs can help us because we cannot...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002435Sabi ko, it's humanly impossible for us to appreciate everything
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002436in so short a time during the budget season, no?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002437Gabundok yung ibang volumes yun na pinapadala, line items.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002438So we are involving the civil society organizations, watchdogs,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002439and everybody else.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002440Pag may nakita sila na irregular, to let us know
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002441so that we can already confront the agencies, no?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002442So ito po, from the CSO,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002443naging concerned po ng maraming CSOs and groups
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002444na nagmo-monitor ng budget process sa mga nakaraang taon
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002445ang delays ng publication ng COA's annual audit reports,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002446particularly for the fiscal year 2023
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002447at sa ibang agency sa fiscal year 2024.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002448To address this under Section 107 of the 2026 GAA
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002449sets an October 31 deadline for the publication of annual audit reports.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002450Ang tanong, kumusta po ang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002451implementation nito? Have all fiscal year 2024
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002452annual audit reports already been published on your website?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002453Published na po. Okay. Complete.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002454Ito pong, is it on track to make all 2025 naman po
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002455audit reports available by October 31.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002456Okay, so ongoing.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002457Idagdag ko lang po, Mr. Chair.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002458Kasi nung 2023 for 2024, nakalagay po kasi sa GAA na December,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002459end of December po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002460Last day. Kaya po, na-delay din talaga.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002461So ngayon, October 31 na?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002462October 31 na po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002463Sa follow-up, Chairman, would it be feasible for COA
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002464to publish the annual audit reports earlier?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002465Ang request nila, July 30,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002466so that Congress will have sufficient time to consider the audit findings.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002467Kasi during the budget process, wala pa yung ano nyo, October 31.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002468So, ang ano lang nila, kung kaya yung July 31,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002469para po meron silang time to consider the audit findings.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002470During the budget process, is it feasible?
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002471Sir, pursuant to Section 107 of the GAA 2027,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002472may requirement kasi po, upon the receipt of the annual audit report
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002473by the audited agency, required sila to submit the status of actions taken
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002474on the audit observations and memorandum.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002475So within 60 days, isasabit nila yan doon sa COA for
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002476for the publication together with the annual audit report.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002477So, June 30 ang deadline of the transmittal plus 60.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002478So, talagang, tapos gagawin pa yan ng COA,
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002479iko-confirm pa yan, i-evaluate.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002480So, talagang October 31?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002481Sige, Chairman.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002482Ang ginagawa naman po namin, as soon as matapos,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002483kasi hindi naman po sabay-sabay,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002484as soon as matapos, pinapadala po namin agad sa inyo pong office.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002485So, may mga hard copies po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002486So, pinapauna na po namin.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002487That would help a lot, especially during the budget process.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002488Pinapadala po namin agad.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002489Basta po matapos, hindi lang po sabay-sabay.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002490As it comes lang po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002491We sent it to...
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002492Kinaaano kasi nila concerning availability raw sa public.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002493So, if we can make it earlier nalang siguro, the earliest possible time.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002494Yung kaya lang naman po.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002495COA describes the citizen participatory audit as a mechanism
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002496that brings citizens and civil society organizations into the audit process.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002497Nagamit na rin ito natin.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002498In previous audits, including in relation to the flood control master plan sa Kamanawa area.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002499For 2027, COA requested 40.7 million for CPA requirements under Tier 2,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002500but this was not included in the NEP.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002501So, on follow-up, we have also received reports that in the past engagements,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002502that citizen partners may be receiving only 250 pesos in logistical support.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002503Can COA confirm whether this is accurate?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002504Is that 250?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002505Provided per day, proactively, or to the entire audit engagement?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002506Na-increase na po yan, Your Honor.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002507But actually nga po, nasimulan na po namin yan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002508Yan po binabanggit ko sa inyo kanina,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002509na one of the observations po na nakita doon sa citizen participatory
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002510audit
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002511ayun pong wala pong master plan.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002512So, actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002513malaking bagay po yan because para po siyang
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002514aming multiplier po ng tao
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002515and there would be people
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002516on the ground na makakatulong po sa amin.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002517But hindi po lang sinama
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002518this year, ah, for next year.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002519But, tuloy-tuloy
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002520naman po kami.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002521Kung hindi po ma-restore yung
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-00252240 million, 40.7 million
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002523sa mga planned CPA engagements ang mababawasan,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002524maantala, or hindi matutuloy?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002525Ah, sige.
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002526Hindi naman po, sir. We will
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002527get that from our regular
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002528MOOE. Kaya medyo
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002529malaki. Especially this
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002530year, we already disbursed
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-00253110 million for the CPA
COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras
asr-002532all over the regions.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002533So, paano po pinipili?
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002534Last na po ito sa mga civil,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002535from the CSOs. Paano po pinipili ng COA
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002536ang civil society partners nito
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002537at ano ang safeguards para
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002538masiguro na hindi maapektuhan ang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002539independence and integrity
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002540of audit?
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002541Actually, there's an office
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002542in the COA that
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002543does this po, ano,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002544invitation po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002545And, actually po,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002546ang may mga,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002547meron naman po yan mga, what's this,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002548criteria, and then
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002549in coordination naman po yan with
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002550the NGOs
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002551and
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002552yung pong mga
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002553civil society groups po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002554Nagpapatulong po kami.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002555Actually nga po, ang isang inisip namin
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002556would be,
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002557through the CBCP po.
COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba
asr-002558Jonas.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002559Okay, so that's about it.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002560Since there's no more queries
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002561from our colleagues,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002562siguro,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002563I'll solicit a motion from my
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002564colleague to
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002565have the budget of the commission
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002566audit be submitted.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002567Yes, Mr. Chairman, at this
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002568juncture, again, let me reiterate my
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002569full support to the budget of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002570COA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002571with the caveat of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002572moving also if they need
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002573additional assistance, but then
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002574I can see a lot of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002575challenges that they
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002576are facing and it will also be
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002577addressed by
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002578exempting them from
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002579salary standardization. So with that,
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002580Mr. Chairman, I move that we
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002581consider the budget of
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002582COA
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002583for approval for plenary action.
Senator Joel Villanueva
asr-002584I so move, Mr. Chair.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002585Thank you. So,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002586there's a motion by
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002587Senator Villanueva
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002588for the budget of the commission audit
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002589to be submitted for the plenary
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002590consideration subject to
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002591discussion and submission of documents requested.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002592So, since there's no objection,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002593it is hereby approved. And the
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002594committee chair would like to thank everyone, especially
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002595our esteemed resource persons,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002596Chairman Gamaliel Cordoba,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002597our assistant commissioners,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002598the whole COA family.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002599Minsan, okay lang maging,
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002600kailangan din ang kontrabida sa buong
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002601buhay. Yan ang
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002602check and balance
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002603ng ating pong gobyerno at nagpapanatiling
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002604malinis ating gobyerno.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002605Huwag na sobrang.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002606This briefing is hereby suspended.
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002607Thank you, gentlemen and ladies
Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito
asr-002608of COA. Thank you. Maraming salamat po.