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Senate Committee on Finance · September 3, 2026

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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The expenditure program of the Commission on Audit is hereby called to order.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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I would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Migz Zubiri.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Our Majority Leader is here at the back.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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He'll be joining us in a while.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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At this juncture, let me direct the Committee Secretary to acknowledge our resource person.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Yes, our Majority Leader is present for the day.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

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I'm here to give my full support to the budget of the COA.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

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More power to you, ladies and gentlemen.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

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I think we should give them all the budgetary support that they need, Your Honor.

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Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri

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Whatever they need, you have my vote for the additional budget.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Thank you, Senator.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Thank you, our Majority Leader.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Thank you for the support.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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At this juncture, again, I'd like to direct the Committee Secretary to acknowledge the resource persons present for the day.

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Committee Secretary

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Committee Secretary

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Good afternoon.

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Committee Secretary

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For the briefing on the proposed FY2027 budget of the Commission on Audit or COA,

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we would like to acknowledge our resource persons.

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From the Commission on Audit,

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we have Chairperson Gamaliel Cordova,

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Commissioner Douglas Michael Malilin,

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Assistant Commissioner Alexander Juliano,

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Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaras,

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Assistant Commissioner Martha Rosana Sese,

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Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabotchan,

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Assistant Commissioner Roy Ursal,

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Assistant Commissioner Joel Estolatan,

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Assistant Commissioner Lito Martin,

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Assistant Commissioner Brasilo Sabaldan,

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Assistant Commissioner Lucilas Isidro,

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Assistant Commissioner Sofia Guimora,

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Committee Secretary

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and Assistant Commissioner Estela Mercado.

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Committee Secretary

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From the Department of Budget and Management, we have Director Elena Regina Brillantes, Ms. Siti Nor Ayma Dimapanat, Ms. Patricia Arabella Villamin, Ms. Christine Love Morales, Ms. Najla Marie Kawaling, and Mr. Clarence Ivar Odsinada. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Thank you, our Committee Secretary. At this juncture, the Chair would like to give his opening statement. Today, we take up the proposed 2027 budget of the Commission Audit, our Constitutional Guardian of Public Funds.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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At a time when public confidence in government spending is being tested, COA must be equipped to detect wrongdoing early, verify that projects exist, and work as intended.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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And hold accountable those who misuse public money. We also want to recognize the men and women of COA who carry out this difficult mandate every day. Their work is often difficult, technical, and done away from public attention.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Audit observations and notices of disallowance are not always well received, but are part of the checks and balances that protect public funds. Government agencies should see them not as an attack, but as

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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an opportunity to explain, correct deficiencies, strengthen internal controls, and improve

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the use of public funds.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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We want to know whether the funding level under 2027 NEP is enough for the job we expect

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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COA to perform.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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We will look closely at your capacity for fraud and performance audits, field inspections,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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information system audits, citizen participation, staffing, and the timely resolution of audit

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findings.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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At the same time, accountability must begin at home.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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COA itself must meet the same standards of sound financial management, transparency,

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and internal control that it requires from every government agency.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Our objective is simple.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Every peso we provide to COA should help protect many more pesos from waste, irregularity,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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and corruption.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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At this point, since our colleagues are not yet here, we'll just ask them for their

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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manifestations and their queries later.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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So, may we request the Commission on Audit to brief us on the proposed fiscal year 2027

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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National Expenditure Program.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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I ask the indulgence of the others to allow the Commission to present and complete their

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presentation.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Yes, Chairman Gamaliel Cordoba, you now have the floor.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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Opo. Good afternoon to the Honorable Chairperson of the Committee on Finance, Senator JV

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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Ejercito, and to the personnel and officials of

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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the Committee on Finance of the Senate.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you very much for having us this afternoon.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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May I ask Nilda Plaras to present the details of our budget.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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Thank you very much.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Yes, Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaras, you now have the floor for the presentation.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Good afternoon, Chairperson of the Committee on Finance.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Good afternoon, everyone.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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My fellow COAns and public servants.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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At this point, I will present to you the major accomplishments of the Commission on Audit

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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for fiscal year 2025 and first semester of fiscal year 2026, as well as the budget of

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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the Commission on Audit for fiscal year 2027.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Under the financial performance.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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As of December 31, 2025, the Commission on Audit received a total allotment of $15.1 billion, and out of this total allotment, 97.36%, or $14.7 billion, was obligated.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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And out of this total obligations incurred of $14.7 billion, 97.33%, or $14.3 billion, was disbursed, resulting to the balances of unobligated allotment of $398 million, and unpaid obligations of $392 million.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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For the first semester of fiscal year 2026, COA has an allotment, a total allotment of $15.7 billion, and out of this $15.7 billion, 51.06%, or $8 billion, was obligated.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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And out of this total obligations incurred, 97.3%.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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And out of this total obligations incurred, 97.45%, or $7.8 billion, was disbursed.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Excuse me, Assistant Commissioner. Our Blue Ribbon Chair, Senator Erwin Tulfo, has joined us.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Thank you, sir, for joining us. Please continue.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Good afternoon, sir.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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As to our fiscal performance under the government auditing program, the COA was able to transmit to the audited agencies,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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the following reports.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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For fiscal year 2025, 2,663 annual audit reports, 43 fraud audit reports, 10 special audit reports, and 3 performance audit reports.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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For the first semester of fiscal year 2026, 2,605 annual audit reports, 10 fraud audit reports,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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4 special audit reports, and 3 performance audit reports.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Still under the government auditing program, COA was able to publish in our COA website,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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the annual audit reports for fiscal year 2025.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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There were 2,255 annual audit reports.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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For the first semester of fiscal year 2026, none.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Since the...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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The deadline of the transmittal of our annual audit reports to the audited agency was June 30.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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And within 60 days from receipt of the COA annual audit report, the audit agencies are required to submit the status report on the actions taken on the audit observations and recommendations.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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And this status report shall be published together with the annual audit reports.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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until October 31 of the year.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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As to the government accountancy program, COA was able to submit reports to the Office of the President, House of Representatives, and Senate.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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For 2025, we submitted...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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2025 and 2026, we were able to transmit annual reports.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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As to the report of appropriations, allotments, obligations, and disbursements.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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As to the annual financial reports of local government, national government, and government corporations, we submitted for fiscal year 2025.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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For 2026, our deadline for submission will be on September 30.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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As to the government accountancy program, COA was able to issue...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Two circular, COA circulars for fiscal year 2025.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Two COA circulars for the first semester of first fiscal year 2026.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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As to the agency users trained and assisted, for fiscal year 2025, we were able to train 3,817 users.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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And for the first semester of fiscal year 2026,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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we were able to train 2,148 agency users.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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As to the government financial adjudication program,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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for fiscal year 2025,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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there were 811 cases decided by the Commission proper,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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587 cases by the national government audit sector,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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188 cases for the corporate government audit sector,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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and 571 cases for the local government audit sector. For the first semester

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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of fiscal year 2026, 448 cases were decided by the Commission proper, 116 cases by the national

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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government audit sector, 42 by the corporate government audit sector, and 224 cases for the

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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local government sector. As to our budget under the fiscal year 2027 national expenditure program,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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we have as approved under the NEP of $16,046,527,000 to be exact.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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And this consists of the agency-specific budget,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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of $14.77 billion, and retirement and life insurance premium of $1.272 billion.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Out of this, for the agency-specific budget, it consists of the personal services of $14.036 billion

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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and $737.977 million.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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So we have no capital outlay.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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So the last slide is the comparative data between the NEP as against our budget proposal

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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for fiscal year 2027.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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For the personal services, there is an increase of 1.17%.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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And this is due to the increase in our authorized

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plantilla positions, and inclusion of the fourth tranche of the Salary Standardization Law.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Then for the MOOE, 34.48% decrease, and this is pertaining to the first year implementation

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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of the COA ISSP, and additional funding for our citizen participatory audit, MOE requirements.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Then, zero for, I mean, 100% decrease for our capital outlay.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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So, that's all for the presentation. Thank you very much.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Thank you, Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaras. I'll ask my colleague, Senator Tulfo, our

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Blue Ribbon Chair, if he might have a statement or some queries.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Just a few quick questions.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Mr. Chair, una po sa lahat kay ASCOM Plaras, ba't wala pong capital outlay? I noticed.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Wala po sa NEP, although we proposed.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Magkano po yung proposal po ninyo?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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1.177 billion.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Billion. Para saan po ito? Ano po ang purpose sana?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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For the capital outlay, we have the building and other structures.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Marami pong composition, sir.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Modernization of our COA building, fire protection works, renovation of our profession.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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When you say, ma'am, I'm sorry.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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When you say modernization of your building, you're building here, your main office,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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malapit sa Sandigan?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Yes, the building one and two po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Yung old one po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Anong year ho ba 'yan naitayo?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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1970.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Late sixties po, Your Honor.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Late sixties, Chairman.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Opo.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Opo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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With the indulgence of Senator Tulfo, meron lang akong nakita, just to clarify, last year, meron akong

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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phase 2 doon sa new four-story building with a basement.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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So tanong ko lang, what's the status, or meron pa tayong phase 3 for this?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Ito ba yung one billion?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Is it part of the phase 3?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Hindi po, sir.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Yung new building po, yung another na, it's not the old one.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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We have a new building.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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That's the 370 po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Ano po status niya?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Under construction, or nagawa naman po?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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We are preparing now the plan for phase 2 po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Ah, so ano pala ito? Phase 2?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Yes po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Okay.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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So last year merong 370 million.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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So this year,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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to finish it, is this enough already?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Wala po, sir.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Hindi siya kasama dito.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Sa old building po ito,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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yung modernization.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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So may facelift pa ba ito?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Wala na po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Wala na.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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So ito lang.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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Idagdag ko lang po, Mr. Chair, Senator Tulfo.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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The old building po, we retrofitted it kasi po natatakot kami because it was made during the

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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old building code pa po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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So baka po hindi na up to standard.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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I understand where you're coming from.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Sabay ho yata itinayo sa DSWD at saka sa inyo.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Kaya nung mag-earthquake ho, umuuga-uga kami sa DSWD.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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I was the secretary then.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Number two, sir.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Baka hindi pa kaya naubos ninyo yung 600 million na inallocate sa inyo last year,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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kaya ayaw ho kayong bigyan.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Meron kayong 650 million para sa capital outlay?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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Yes po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Have you already utilized that?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Yung 370 million, sir.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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We're waiting

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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for the transfer of the building from DPWH kasi it is implemented by the

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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DPWH.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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So our GSO is now preparing for phase 2.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Once the building will be transferred, that's the time na ma-implement na po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Itong request ho ninyo for this year, is it really a must, Mr. Chairman?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Kailangang-kailangan ba ito?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Kung kailangang-kailangan at hindi nga maibibigay, pero ano ho yung

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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medyo malapit-lapit sa realization sa hingi ninyo na one billion?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Ano yung pwedeng malapit-lapit man lang?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Ah.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

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Si ASCOM Nilda na po ang sasagot.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Go ahead, ASCOM Plaras.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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First, sir, ang pinakaimportante namin is the information and communication technology

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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equipment and software.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Ang pinaka-last nga namin yung sa modernization of the building.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Then the second for us is the semi-expendable ICT items.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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This is the...

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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So yung priority po ninyo, information and communication?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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How much is the total of that information and communication sa breakdown?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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297.6 million po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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297.6 million.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

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Yes po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Part of the capital outlay?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

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Yung susunod po, ano?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000243

Part of the MOE, which is

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000244

Communication Equipment

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000245

and Software Subscription

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000246

and

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000247

Internet

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000248

Subscription para sa

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000249

Provincial Satellite Auditing Offices

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000250

po namin.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000251

So yun ang MOE part po, sir.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000252

Pero yung pinakaimportante po, yung

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000253

information and communication.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-000254

It is a priority.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000255

Alright. Thank you,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000256

ASCOM Plaras.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000257

Mr. Chair, I have another

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000258

question, pero please proceed

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000259

to the budget-related. I just want to ask

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000260

Chairman Cordova.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000261

Sir, what have you done

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000262

after all these

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000263

investigations by the Blue

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000264

Ribbon last year? Yung ating

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000265

Yung ating mga COA personnel, medyo may mga

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000266

ikang

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000267

pagkukulang din na lumusot po

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000268

sa kanila. Have you made any

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000269

changes para hindi na po maulit

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000270

para hindi malusutan

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000271

yung ating COA personnel?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000272

Or hindi maging kasabwat

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000273

sa ikang

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000274

nefarious

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000275

activities? Have you done

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000276

something about this?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000277

Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000278

Sen. Tulfo. Ang ginawa po natin

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000279

ay unang-una, yung po mga areas

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000280

kung saan po nangyari yung mga

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000281

problem sa flood control

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000282

ay nagpa-fraud audit po tayo.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000283

So that's number one. Number two po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000284

ay yung mga personnel na

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000285

doon nakasign ay nilipat na po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000286

natin. Tinanggal po natin doon.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000287

And then

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000288

nag-file po kami ng cases against

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000289

them, Your Honors.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000290

How often po ang ikang

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000291

rotation? Do you rotate

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000292

your people? For example,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000293

itong auditor na ito sa

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000294

Bulacan, 1st District,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000295

how long will he or she stay there?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000296

Or hanggang sa magretiro siya

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000297

o you rotate them para walang

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000298

familiarization ng mga officials,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000299

etc.? As a general

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000300

rule po, three years po, Your Honors.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000301

Three years. Then they get rotated?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000302

Yes po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000303

Kiniikot po sila.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000304

Mr. Chair, one last question.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000305

Ongoing po ang aming

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000306

impeachment trial,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000307

ang sinasabi po, ongoing

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000308

din po ang inyong mga review

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000309

doon po sa mga motion

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000310

for reconsideration sa Office of the

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000311

Vice President, and ganoon din

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000312

po yung when she was with the Education

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000313

Department. Ano na ho

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000314

status nito?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000315

We want to find out kasi

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000316

her people,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000317

mga former

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000318

officials, they're pointing to you na

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000319

they're just waiting. Sinagot naman daw nila

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000320

po yung mga AOMs ninyo,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000321

discrepancies, so they're

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000322

waiting. Ano ho ang status na nito?

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000323

And if kailan po

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000324

natin malalaman,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000325

your ruling or your decision na

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000326

acceptable yung mga

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000327

ikang

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000328

evidence that they

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000329

filed or ikang

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000330

reasons that they submitted

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000331

to your office to qualify

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000332

or justify yung

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000333

kanila pong expenses, lalo na po

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000334

sa Confidential Fund

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000335

ng agency, Chairman.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000336

Thank you, Your Honors.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000337

Yung pong tungkol po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000338

sa Confidential Funds po ng

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000339

Office of the Vice President,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000340

galing po doon sa Fraud Audit

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000341

Office, nagkaroon na po ng

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000342

ND doon, inakyat na po nila.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000343

They had

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000344

six months to bring it up

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000345

to the Commission, so inakyat na po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000346

sa amin ng Office of the Vice President, and we

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000347

actually decided on it already, Your Honors.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000348

We denied po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000349

the appeal of the

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000350

OVP doon po sa

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000351

office of the Vice President,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000352

but they filed a motion for reconsideration.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000353

Yun po ang pending po sa amin ngayon.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000354

So, the

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000355

first motion was denied.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000356

Yes po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000356-split-2

So, nasa second

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000357

motion.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000357-split-2

Opo.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000358

The appeal po was denied, so they

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000359

filed a motion for reconsideration.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000360

After this, sir,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000361

kung sakasakali, kung whatever happens

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000362

like it's still unacceptable,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000363

I mean, we're not so sure, whatever

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000364

your decisions, baka may mga additional

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000365

evidence po sila, documents to

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000366

present, sabihin na natin na

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000367

ganun pa rin po. What's going

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000368

to happen na? Then they can go to

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000369

the Supreme Court po, Your Honor,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000370

on Rule 64 of the Rules of Court po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000371

Okay. So,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000372

the last recourse nila

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000373

will be the Supreme Court.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000373-split-2

Yes, Your Honor.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000374

Is it possible po ba, or is it

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000375

confidential that, can you publish

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000376

our

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000377

the impeachment court,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000378

documentations about this,

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000379

I mean, about your reports, kung sakasakaling

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000380

lumabas na kayo after it's

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000381

a motion for reconsideration?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000382

Yeah, we will do that po. Actually po,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000383

Your Honor, we can submit a copy of

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000384

the decision nung nauna,

Source

COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000385

at saka po yung motion for

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000386

reconsideration na desisyon namin pag lumabas na po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000387

How many more months

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000388

you have to make a decision on do sa

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000389

MR po nila?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000389-split-2

Siguro po mga

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000390

a month or so lang po, Your Honor.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000391

Tapusin na po namin.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000391-split-2

Another month or so?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000392

Yes, sir.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000392-split-2

Thank you po, Mr. Chairman po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000393

Idagdag ko lang po, Your Honor, yung pong sa

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000394

Office of the DepEd naman po,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000395

nung pong nilabas

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000396

ng ND, yung

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000397

Intelligence and Confidential Funds

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000398

Audit Office, yung pong ND,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000399

they have until October

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000400

this year, October 5

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000401

po, this year, to file an appeal.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000402

So, wala pa po ina-ante.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000402-split-2

So, yung sa

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000403

DepEd, di ba po sila nag-appeal?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000403-split-2

Di pa po.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000404

Yung sa OVP lang?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000404-split-2

Yes.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000405

Yung giving them

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000406

one more month?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000406-split-2

Yes.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000406-split-3

Alright.

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Senator Erwin Tulfo

asr-000407

Thank you po. Thank you po, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000408

Thank you, Senator Tulfo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000409

Thank you for your questions. That will be

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000410

helpful also in our

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000411

for the impeachment.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000412

Just a few questions.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000413

Verificatory questions.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000414

Under your support to operations,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000415

may 169 million na nakalaan

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000416

for legal assistance services.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000417

Sino-sino po ba ang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000418

nag-avail ng legal assistance na ito?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000419

Kasama po ba rito yung mga

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000420

COA auditors and personnel who face

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000421

harassment, intimidation

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000422

or legal action simply because

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000423

they perform their duties, particularly

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000424

after issuing audit reports

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000425

or notices of

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000426

disallowance. I raise this

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000427

because we have seen COA personnel testify

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000428

even in high-profile

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000429

proceedings, tulad ng impeachment,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000430

including the

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000431

kapag ang isang auditor ay nanindigan

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000432

sa kanyang findings at ginawa

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000433

lamang kanyang trabaho, dapat bang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000434

may assurance siya na hindi siya

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000435

pababayaan ng institusyon. So, what legal?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000436

And institutional

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000437

protection does COA provide

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000438

to the auditors who face retaliation

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000439

because of their official findings

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000440

or testimonies?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000441

Thank you, Your Honors.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000442

Ascom Sabaldan po will answer that.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000443

He's the head of our legal service.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000444

Ascom Sabaldan, please.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000445

Good morning, Your Honor.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000446

Good morning, Senator Tulfo.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000447

COA has

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000448

the so-called prosecution

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000449

and litigation office,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000450

one of which functions is

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000451

to assist our auditors

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000452

in case of

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000453

harassment suits

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000454

or retaliatory suits

Source

COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000455

against them.

Source

COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000456

Budgetary-wise,

Source

COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000457

we also have budget line item,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000458

the so-called legal assistance

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000459

fund, which will

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000460

cover,

Source

COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000461

say, for example,

Source

COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000462

if our

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000463

auditors or if our

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000464

former auditors will

Source

COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000465

secure the assistance of a private

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000466

private lawyers.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000467

So, yung pong

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000468

169 million allocation,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000469

is it sufficient to provide

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000470

for the protection of our COA

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000471

auditors and personnel?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000472

I think so, sir. Pwede po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Bresilo R. Sabaldan

asr-000473

Sufficient po yan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000474

Kasi talaga, recently, talagang with the

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000475

high-profile cases,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000476

the COA auditors have been

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000477

asked to testify.

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000478

Hindi na ako magtatanong

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000479

kasi baka sub judice tayo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000480

But I think very familiar yung mga pangalan,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000481

nyo, recently.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000482

So,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000483

pagdating dito sa flood control,

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000484

fraud audits, and the continued investigation,

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000485

dahil itong pinakamainit, the biggest

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000486

corruption

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000487

scandal in the history of our government,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000488

the government

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000489

has confirmed the investigations into alleged

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000490

flood control anomalies remain ongoing.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000491

Sabi rin ng Office of the Ombudsman kanina,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000492

tuloy-tuloy ang filing of cases

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000493

after a year or so.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000494

Ngayon, nagpa-file,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000495

tuloy-tuloy pa rin po yung kanilang,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000496

preliminary investigations

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000497

and subsequent filing

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000498

of cases.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000499

So, ang ano natin,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000500

ito, ongoing,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000501

yung mga projects that maybe go

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000502

substandard or ineffective, tuloy-tuloy pa yung

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000503

investigations ng COA, as you mentioned.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000504

COA has the constitutional

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000505

mandate to audit public expenditures

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000506

and a dedicated special audit

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000507

subprogram for fraud, special

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000508

and performance audit.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000509

So, what is COA

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000510

doing now? Kanina, partially, nasagot nyo naman na po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000511

Kung ano po yung ginawa nyo rin sa mga

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000512

auditors

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000513

or personnel who were involved in

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000514

the flood control scandal sa ghost projects.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000515

Some were charged,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000516

as you mentioned, Chairman.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000517

So, what is COA doing now on a nationwide

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000518

basis to identify and act on

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000519

anomalous flood control and other

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000520

infrastructure projects?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000521

Mr. Chair,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000522

ang una pong tinutuunan namin ng pansin ngayon,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000523

we are coordinating with the

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000524

Office of the Ombudsman

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000525

dahil yun pong aming mga auditors,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000526

sa mga region, sa mga

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000527

probinsya, sila po ang nagiging witness po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000528

ng Office of the Ombudsman sa mga cases filed

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000529

in the Sandigan Bayan

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000530

or in the RTC or during preliminary

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000531

investigation. Also, Your Honor,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000532

sa aming pong Fraud Audit Office, so far,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000533

medyo busy po sila.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000534

Nakatapos na po kami ng almost

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000535

50 na fraud audit

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000536

reports.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000537

And ito pong lahat,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000538

Mr. Chairman, has already been submitted

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000539

to the Office of the Ombudsman

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000540

and ginagamit naman po nila ito dun sa

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000541

mga preliminary investigation

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000542

lalo na sa mga cases that they filed.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000543

So, tuloy-tuloy lang po kami, and hindi

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000544

naman po kahihinto, tuloy-tuloy lang

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000545

po hanggang sa makover po namin lahat.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000546

But of course, Your Honors,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000547

ang aming pong kinonsentratan

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000548

sa ngayon ay yung

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000549

province of Bulacan because dito po talaga

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000550

ang parang lumalabas na

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000551

ground zero of this

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000552

flood control projects.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000553

Yes, sir.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000554

Okay, thank you. Chairman

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000555

Gamaliel Cordoba,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000556

so what is the process

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000557

and expected timeline for elevating

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000558

itong mga audit findings or fraud

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000559

indicators to the Ombudsman? May timeline na kayo?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000560

Actually po, Your Honors,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000561

after matapos po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000562

namin, we already,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000563

pagka-issue po ng

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000564

fraud audit report, kasama na po ang notice of

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000565

disallowance, we filed it po right away

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000566

with the Office of the Ombudsman.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000567

Pagkatapos po, binibigay na po namin

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000568

agad sa kanila, and then ginagamit

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000569

po nila ito sa pag-imbestiga,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000570

preliminary investigation, and filing of cases.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000571

Actually po yun pong aming mga

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000572

fraud auditors ay ginagamitin po nila

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000573

as witnesses doon po sa mga cases

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000574

filed before the

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000575

preliminary investigation

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000576

sa kanila pong, sa cases

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000577

sa Sandigan Bayan at sa RTC po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000578

Humaharap na po kami doon, Your Honor.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000579

Okay, thank you. Lastly, we'll go up

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000580

to a published consolidated findings

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000581

or a public status report so

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000582

Congress can track the scope,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000583

results, and disposition of these audits.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000584

We'll do that po, Your Honors,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000585

but we will submit to you po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000586

We will issue

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000587

ano po, yung pong mga

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000588

annual audit reports

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000589

ay nagpapadala po kami

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000590

sa Senate at sa

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000591

House of Representatives, but we'll also

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000592

publish it po as of

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000593

October, until

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000594

October 31. Pero yung pong fraud audit

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000595

ay magpapadala po kami sa inyo ng

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000596

physical copies dahil

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000597

mas madali po ninyong magagamit

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000598

po ito.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000599

Then I came across earlier

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000600

parang news article, itong

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000601

kay COA Commissioner, former

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000602

Commissioner Heidi Mendoza issued a statement

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000603

recently about urging COA

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000604

to pursue criminal cases against

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000605

government officials implicated

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000606

in the misuse of public funds instead

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000607

of limiting its action to

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000608

issuing notices of

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000609

disallowance. So may I know the reaction

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000610

of COA about this?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000611

Actually po, Your Honors, paglabas po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000612

namin ng notice of disallowance,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000613

we also endorse

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000614

it to the Office of the Ombudsman po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000615

Copy-furnish po sila para po if

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000616

they deem fit to

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000617

use the notices of disallowance

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000618

and our actions

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000619

to pursue cases, ay

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000620

pwede po nilang gawin. And ready naman po kami

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000621

makipag-cooperate and be witnesses

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000622

kung kailangan po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000623

In other words po, parang kami na rin po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000624

ang nagpo-file sa Office of the Ombudsman, Your Honor.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000625

Okay, thank you.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000626

With regards to manpower

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000627

complement, in terms of staffing,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000628

COA has

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000629

13,378 authorized

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000630

permanent positions as of June 13,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000631

2026.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000632

8,693 positions

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000633

or 65% of the total

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000634

are filled, leaving

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000635

4,685 positions

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000636

vacant. May I request an update on the current

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000637

number of positions filled,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000638

including the total number of state

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000639

auditors currently employed by COA.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000640

Given the current

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000641

staffing level, does the existing manpower

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000642

sufficiently address COA's workload

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000643

and enable it to fulfill its mandate

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000644

as a guardian of public funds?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000645

So, ito po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000646

Can you give us the status?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000647

Itong ano, may 4,685

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000648

positions vacant po tayo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000649

Tapos, ano pa, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000650

During the budget hearing at the House,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000651

it was noted that some auditors leave COA

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000652

for higher salaries.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000653

So ito yung mga problema natin: greener

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000654

pastures,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000655

More flexible work arrangements, transfers

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000656

to other agencies or retirement.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000657

So, what measures or initiatives

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000658

is COA proposing to improve

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000659

retention, ensure the continued service

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000660

of our experienced auditors?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000661

Mr. Chair, may I respectfully ask

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000662

Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000663

to answer the question po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000664

Assistant Commissioner Cabochan,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000665

you have the floor.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000666

Mr. Chair, good afternoon.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000667

So, based on our

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000668

report on the

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000669

accession and separation

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000670

and exit surveys,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000671

show that the high separation

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000672

rates outpace

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000673

the momentum of our recruitment cycle.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000674

And of

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000675

4,544

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000676

total vacant

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000677

positions,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000678

82%

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000679

are auditor positions.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000680

So, notably po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000681

ito po yung parang

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000682

based on the system ranking of positions po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000683

meron pong category ito.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000684

May entry level ng

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000685

state auditing examiner

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000686

examiner 2, which is the

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000687

entry level. Then,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000688

after a year,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000689

you are to be promoted to State Auditor 1, 2, 3, 4, up to 5.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000690

So based on our records, the State Auditing Examiner 2 out of the unfilled positions

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000691

consists of 832, and this is the entry level.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000692

So we have already utilized it for 68% na po ito.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000693

Kasi we cannot promote, we have to follow administrative rules

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000694

in terms of the ranking of positions.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000695

So after the entry level of State Auditing Examiner, after a year,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000696

this can be promoted na po sa State Auditor 1,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000697

and after, we have to follow po yung system ranking of positions.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000698

So we're doing that po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000699

So it will take, notably po, it will take,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000700

a span of months because of the compliance with the administrative rules of the Civil Service po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000701

So, but we, for the past years po, for the last three years po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000702

we have already conducted substantial recruitment.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000703

However, yung pong separation po, medyo mas, majority of the percentage po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000704

goes to mandatory po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000705

Ang dami na po ngayong nag-re-retire.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000706

Upon reaching 60, they wouldn't like to be staying hanggang 65 po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000707

And yung pong mga less than, yung mga newly recruits naman po natin,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000708

mostly yung mga less than 10 years, are transferring to private, yes po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000709

So, siguro, Chairman, I can ask also Commissioner Cabochan,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000710

are there any specific plans to enhance compensation, improve the benefits,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000711

para yung working conditions, to improve the working conditions,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000712

to address these concerns na meron.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000713

Sabi nyo nga na, na outpace tayo nung pag-retire sa yung recruitment,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000714

tsaka yung retention, no, marami lumilipat ng ibang ahensya,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000715

or go to private practice.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000716

So, what are we doing?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000717

Any plans to enhance the compensation benefits?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000718

Actually po, your honors, ang atin pong kasing challenge is that the commission audit is,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000719

we have to follow the salary standardization.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000720

So, naka ano po tayo doon.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000721

But as much as we can, ginagandahan naman po namin yung mga pwedeng ibigay sa tao.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000722

Like, for example, for this year, we were able to bid out and finish the contract for the HMO,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000723

yung pong sa aming medical benefits ng aming pong tao.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000724

Tinaasan po namin yung, what's this, yung pong limits and coverage sa hospitals.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000725

So, maganda naman po yun.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000726

And then,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000727

But co-workers are authorized to fix and determine your salaries, allowances, and other benefits for your personnel.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000728

Ano po, we are,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000729

Hindi po, we are, ano sir, we are, we have to follow the salary standardization.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000730

Kung mapapansin niyo po, your honor, yung pong aming budget for 2027 is actually salaries po talaga.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000731

Maliitan po yung MOE and then no capital expenditure po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000732

So, now, we'll wait for the other centers to come, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000733

But I'll ask that questions nonetheless.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000734

Yes.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000735

At this juncture, we acknowledge the arrival of our Deputy Majority Leader, Senator Joel Villanueva.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000736

Thank you, sir, for joining us.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000737

Thank you.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000738

Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000739

I'm here to support.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000740

And as I have said, I am your backup guy here.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000741

And, of course, we welcome.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000742

Our COA family, headed by our good friend, Chairperson Del Cordoba, and our commissioners, of course, Commissioner Douglas is here.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000743

Thank you.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000744

Katatanong ko lang yung lagi po tinatanong sa mga ahensya.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000745

Medyo malaki yung kanilang vacancies, no?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000746

Yung unfilled position.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000747

So, probably, COA continues to carry a large number of vacancies.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000748

So, what is the realistic hiring?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000749

Pero nabanggit kanina ni Commissioner Cabochan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000750

But yan kanina yung mga, ano eh, no?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000751

Yung mga dilema nila na they're losing to retirement, to private practice.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000752

So, meron na rin sila ginagawa to improve the benefits and other, ano.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000753

So, siguro, briefly lang.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000754

Alam ko concern ng aking kaibigang kasama yan.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000755

Okay.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000756

A while ago po, we discussed that the data or the rate of the accession and separation

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000757

and exit surveys.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000758

It showed that the high separation rates outpaced the momentum of our recruitment

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000759

cycle po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000760

Of the 4,544 po, this attributed to 82% po na vacant positions for auditors.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000761

Auditors positions.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000762

Sorry, how many again?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000763

4,544.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000764

4,544.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000765

And out of this po, 82%, which is 3,727, are auditor positions.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000766

Then po, dito po sa ano natin, ang auditor positions po are categorized into several

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000767

levels po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000768

The entry position po is State Auditing Examiner 2 po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000769

So, entry level po yun, after po performance of one year, you can be promoted to State

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000770

Auditor 1, State Auditor 2, State Auditor 3, hanggang 5 po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000771

So, this is basically based po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000772

Sa compliance po ng administrative rules ng civil service.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000773

So, we follow the system ranking of positions.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000774

So, basically, the State Auditing Examiner 2, which is the entry level, comprises po

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000775

ng 832 lang and we already utilize 68% of this.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000776

But upon entry po, we have to follow po muna bago po maipromote sila.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000777

So, that's why state auditor one.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000778

After a while, state auditor two po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000779

Yun po yung comprising noon 3,727.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000780

So, yeah.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000781

That's all of Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000782

Go ahead, Senator Villanueva.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000783

I've been raising this particular issue for quite some time.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000784

I think I sound like a broken record.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000785

I think for every single budget deliberation here in the Senate.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000786

I would raise it.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000790

It has been growing, you know. I remember when I started doing this as a congressman,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000791

they're only about 250 000 uh contract of uh service job orders in the country now it's about

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000792

a million about a million all over the country including the lgs of course the biggest the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000793

biggest violator is the local government units and that's why every time we talk about the issue of

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000794

security of tenure it's quite hard if not almost impossible to convince the private sector

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000795

and now in koa i was looking at this uh data you have is this correct 4540 for unfilled positions

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000796

and then this unfilled position nevertheless you provide a lump sum in filling up

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000797

uh

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000798

dispositions right so

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000799

uh right now you were saying 82 percent of the 4544 are

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000800

so these positions are

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000801

it's either

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000802

or hindi hindi talaga viable for instance i was in tesda and uh

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000803

chairman liel knows about this we had this only one position for legal um uh legal services

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000804

namin iisa yung abogado and then salary grade i forgot the salary grade pero

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000805

pang ano talaga pang uh pang uh sg 23 yun po pang nagtitinda ng ano uh dyan sa kalye no

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000806

eh abogado yun so talagang papasok no so

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000807

lagyan ko yung mga naging problema in the past years we were able to uh touch on this and then

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000808

there came the government's optimization program the the build that i actually uh authored as well

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000809

it's now a law in fact chairman jv would would uh would know this very well because i was being the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000810

vice chairman of this committee i was given the task to somehow uh sponsor the budget of

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000811

optical media

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000812

job board and the commission on filipinos overseas which i believe should be abolished

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000813

i have been pushing for it i was the author of the migrant workers act establishing the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000814

department of migrant workers and we did not include the commission on filipinos overseas

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000815

for that particular reason and then the omv i don't know every year i've been saying this

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000816

but but but the db in the in the tbcc hearing conducted by by senator jv the executive already

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000817

made mention about their plans no and one or top five perhaps would be the omv and the cfo of

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000818

course we are not against uh we are definitely for the protection of their workers and do

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000819

naman yun meron naman tayong magandang program at plan para sa kanila ang sakin lang in every

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000820

agency

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000821

in every department may kanya kanya iba iba yung position nila so in koa ano yung pinaka main

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000822

problem why we couldn't fill this up because last year one out of ten one out of ten in all

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000823

government positions unfilled ngayon nag improve pero hindi ganun kalaki one out of 13 but i'm

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000824

still monitoring it uh unfortunately uh buong buhay ko sa sa test da sa senado parang hindi

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000825

usang a-pitat to define yung gusto kong puntakan but at least someone is looking at it and uh

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000826

nagagawa naman na unte-unte na na bibigyan solution ng problema may we know again yung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000827

root cause dito sa unfilled positions uh ma'am

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000827-split-2

yes po for our records will show you po though

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000828

we have conducted significant efforts on the

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000829

hiring po, but

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000830

definitely po mas na-outweigh

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000831

po yung separation.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000832

Like for,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000833

nakapag-hire po kami

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000834

for the last five years

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000835

dito na two thousand, yes po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000836

for better opportunities po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000837

for higher pay,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000838

and yung proximity sa residence po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000839

At di mapag-tay pang makasuhan.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000840

Yes.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000841

And yung pong alternative work arrangement

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000842

din po, council at po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000843

on the decision to

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000844

transfer to other,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000845

yes, to other offices po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000846

So, yung po yung nakakasuhan.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000847

Separation yung ngayon, yung umahalis.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000848

Okay, sir. Ito po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000849

meron akong data rito.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000850

The data for the

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000851

last five years po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000852

Interested. Yes po. We have

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000853

the accession is about two thousand

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000854

five hundred twelve.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000855

And the separation po is

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000856

two thousand one hundred ninety-three.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000857

And basically po, dito lang

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000858

po kami sa last year,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000859

twenty-twenty-five, nagkaroon ng

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000860

positive rate. Dun lang

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000861

po. Pero talaga

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000862

pong, ang ano po nito,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000863

ang mandatory po, na mga

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000864

separation namin is five hundred seventy-five.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000865

Optional po is

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000866

eight hundred eighty-six.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000867

Resignation

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000868

four hundred twenty-two

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000869

po. Ito po yung mga

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000870

lumilipat. Yes.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000871

For greener pasture po.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000872

I asked that question, ma'am, kasi it's

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000873

it could be

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000874

bothering. It should be bothering

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000875

to the leadership.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000876

As well, because

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000877

I don't know, maybe it shows

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000878

that they are

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000879

not being compensated well, or

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000880

are we at par when you talk

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000881

about, Chairman,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000882

benefits and salaries with other

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000883

countries?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000884

Thank you, Mr. Chair,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000885

Senator Joel. Actually po,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000886

ang isang malaking factor po would be

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000887

the work in other countries. Dahil yung

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000888

po kasing work ng accountant

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000889

ay madali po silang

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000890

makakuha din ng trabaho po sa ibang

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000891

sa. And of course, yung mga private

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000892

salaries that we're talking about.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000893

I mean, how do we compare our

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000894

I'm sure we're not at par, but

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000895

how big is the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000896

gap?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000897

Wala po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000898

Okay. We follow

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000899

the standardization law po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000900

So our entry level is state

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000901

auditing examiner 2, which is

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000902

around SG 13.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000903

Around thirty

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000904

thirty-six thousand.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000905

Your Honor,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000906

thirty-six thousand po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000907

Then CPA ka po, and the risk

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000908

of being an auditor when you

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000909

will be hearing a lot of news

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000910

na si auditor ganito, ganito.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000911

So, maybe po,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000912

yung po yung medyo hindi

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000913

nakaka-entice for

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000914

the newly CPAs po na

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000915

pumasok to be

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000916

included in their dream to be

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000917

part of our workforce.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000918

Part dyan, yung mental health

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000919

dapat hindi ka kinakalawang

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000920

na

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000921

matibay ka, matigas ang

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000922

matigas din ang ulo mo.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000923

But anyway,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000924

and then if you compare it to

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000925

other countries, like

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000926

in a government

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000927

position, may idea po kayo?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000928

Why?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000929

Para lang ano natin, no? Kasi

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000930

tinitignan natin yung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000931

yung kalagayan ng ating

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000932

mga manggagawa. Chairperson tayo ng

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000933

Committee on Labor.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000934

So far po, Your Honor, wala po akong

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000935

idea, pero definitely po kasi

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000936

yung may

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000937

niece is employed

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000938

sa Dubai

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000939

an accountant

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000940

300,000

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000941

if you convert it

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000942

sa niece ko po yun

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000943

na nandun siya

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000944

That's in the private sector?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-000945

Yeah, it's a private sector.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000946

But still, you're looking at about 10%

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000947

10% nung kinikita

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000948

nung nandun sa abroad

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000949

so that's the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000950

primary reason why

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000951

why

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000952

why this

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000953

our human resources

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000954

would go for greener pastures

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000955

Thank you, Mr. Chairman

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000956

Thank you, sorry for interrupting

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000957

Likewise, as mentioned by Chairperson

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000958

Gamaliel Cordoba earlier

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000959

they're improving

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000960

sa HMO at this yung health

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000961

benefits so probably you can

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000962

briefly you can

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000963

inform

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000964

of what you have done for the health

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-000965

benefits

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000966

Ang isa po kunwari

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000967

na inayos namin would be for

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000968

we already

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000969

got an HMO

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000970

medyo mataas po ang coverage

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000971

for our employees

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000972

and then of course

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000973

tuloy-tuloy naman po yung

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000974

yung ibang ginagawa namin

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000975

like

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000976

pero ito po sana meron kaming

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000977

proposal kung kami po inyong matutulungan

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000978

Ayan na, Mr. Chairman

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000979

Meron po kasi kaming

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000980

proposed law

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000981

on the exemption from the SSL

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000982

and retirement system of the Commission on Audit

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000983

kung ano po yung magpapatulong kami sa inyo

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000984

kasi po very important lang yung work po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-000985

ng aming mga accountants

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000986

I would support that, Mr. Chairman

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000987

and I'd be happy to push for it

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000988

Your Honor, Mr. Chairman

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000989

I really think with all these

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000990

things that we're talking about

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000991

the percentage of workers

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000992

that lives

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000993

Mr. Chairman

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000994

na-experience namin yan sa TESDA

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000995

during those times when we were trying

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000996

to get as much

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000997

as we can

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000998

a number of assessors

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-000999

teachers

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001000

for example, yung master welders

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001001

master carpenters

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001002

after training for quite some time

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001003

we give scholarships pa

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001004

pagkatapos nilang gumraduate

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001005

they would go abroad, definitely

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001006

because 300,000 versus

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001007

30,000, it's so easy to make

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001008

that decision

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001009

for a blue-collar job

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001010

so, ang problema nun

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001011

yung mga schools

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001012

yung mga test

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001013

regulated

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001014

not regulated, everything is regulated by TESDA

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001015

TESDA

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001016

TEIs

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001017

TESDA

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001018

what do you call that?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001019

yung mga hawak ng TESDA

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001020

yung directly being administered

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001021

TESDA administered schools

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001022

TESDA administered schools

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001023

nauubusan ng guro

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001024

nauubusan ng guro

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001025

in the middle of the program

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001026

mag-aabroad

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001027

itong nakaraang mga World Cup

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001028

lahat yan

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001029

until now nga may tumatawag sa akin

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001030

for example, yung METI

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001031

Middle East Institute of Technology

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001032

tumawag po sa akin

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001033

senador na po ako

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001034

he was looking for 4,000 welders

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001035

akala niya nasa TESDA pa

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001036

I connected with TESDA

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001037

they were only able to give

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001038

parang less than 800 names

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001039

Mr. Chairman

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001040

and that's the main reason

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001041

why?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001042

why there's a big gap

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001043

dun sa skill sets ng mga gumagraduates

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001044

tsaka yung kailangan ng industry

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001045

and in this case

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001046

I really think na

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001047

we cannot afford to

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001048

to lose our human resources

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001049

I don't think

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001050

kailangan umasa na tayo

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001051

at this time

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001052

kumasa na tayo sa robots lahat

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001053

Thank you, Mr. Chairman

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001054

Thank you, Senator Villanueva

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001055

siguro updating lang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001056

sa guidelines dun

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001057

sa mga confidentialities

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001058

and intelligence fund

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001059

total, ano kasi ito eh

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001060

very hot issue

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001061

very hot topic

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001062

just to clarify

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001063

para lang ba

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001064

yung mga

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001065

at least yung mga issues

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001066

and confusion

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001067

can be addressed

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001068

I can ask such a person

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001069

Coro, ma'am

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001070

Assistant Commissioner

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001071

Nilda Plaras

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001072

kasi medyo familiar

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001073

yung pangalan nyo ngayon lately

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001074

tanong ko lang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001075

ha?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001076

ilan ba?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001077

oo nga

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001078

ilang notices

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001079

of disallowance

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001080

na-issue ninyo na?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001081

ah, isa lang po

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001082

okay po

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001083

sige po

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001084

okay po

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001085

okay po

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001086

we understand that

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001087

the guidelines of

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001088

governing the entitlement

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001089

release, use, reporting

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001090

and audit

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001091

of confidential intelligence funds

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001092

are contained

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001093

in the joint circular

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001094

issued on January 8, 2015

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001095

as I mentioned

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001096

consider the issues

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001097

and conditions

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001098

that have arisen

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001099

particularly on compliance

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001100

with the guidelines

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001101

and the use of

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001102

special disbursing

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001103

officers

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001104

or SDOs

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001105

in handling

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001106

and liquidating

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001107

these funds

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001108

do you think

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001109

it is time to review

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001110

and update

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001111

the joint circular?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001112

if yes

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001113

what specific provisions

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001114

should be clarified

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001115

or strengthened

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001116

particularly

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001117

on the designation

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001118

responsibilities

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001119

and accountability

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001120

of SDOs

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001121

as well as the documentation

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001122

liquidation

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001123

and audit

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001124

of confidential

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001125

and intelligence funds

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001126

ah, thank you

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001127

Mr. Chair

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001128

ah, ang sasagot po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001129

on our side

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001130

ay si

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001131

Commissioner Douglas

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001132

Mallillin po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001133

salamat

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001134

yes, Commissioner Malilin

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001135

ah, please

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001136

you now have the floor

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001137

ah, good afternoon

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001138

ah, Mr. Chair

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001139

ah, Senator Villanueva

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001140

ah, we have

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001141

ah, after

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001142

ah, all the concerns

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001143

and issues that were raised

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001144

regarding the confidential fund

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001145

ah, we were taking a look

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001146

at the joint memorandum circular

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001147

which was issued in 2015

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001148

practically 11 years ago

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001149

and

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001150

ah, the

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001151

last

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001152

circular that was issued

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001153

by COA

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001154

was also in 1992

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001155

and

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001156

ah, we find that

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001157

there are certain revisions

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001158

that need to be

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001159

ah,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001160

modified

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001161

or revised

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001162

as far as the

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001163

joint memorandum circular

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001164

if I may

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001165

the joint circular is

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001166

ah, was issued

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001167

not solely by COA

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001168

this was with

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001169

the DBM

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001170

the Department of National Defense

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001171

the DILG

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001172

and the

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001173

ah, the GCG as well

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001174

so

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001175

this covers

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001176

the intelligence funds

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001177

and the confidential funds

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001178

and we have identified

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001179

certain areas

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001180

that need

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001181

ah, further looking into

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001182

we will be sitting down

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001183

with these agencies

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001184

ah, with regard to

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001185

what supporting documents

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001186

or what has been termed

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001187

as the documents

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001188

evidencing payment

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001189

as far as their contents

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001190

specific

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001191

ah, the specific data

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001192

that should be contained therein

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001193

how we should be able

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001194

to identify

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001195

assuming

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001196

aliases or code names

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001197

are

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001198

allowed

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001199

ah, there may be

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001200

a certain item

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001201

or a certain requirement

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001202

where we have

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001203

a single person

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001204

who has knowledge

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001205

of the actual identities

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001206

of these persons

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001207

as done

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001208

in foreign jurisdictions

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001209

then

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001210

the lack of

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001211

evidence of success

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001212

and the causal links

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001213

which is a very critical feature

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001214

on

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001215

ah, the matter of rewards

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001216

rewards being

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001217

a

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001218

part of the enumeration

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001219

of what

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001220

confidential funds

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001221

and intelligent funds

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001222

ah, can be spent for

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001223

then the more critical is

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001224

which is a point of concern

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001225

is how to protect

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001226

the identity

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001227

of

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001228

ah, the informants

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001229

and

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001230

ah, as well as

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001231

from whom

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001232

we purchase

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001233

information from

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001234

however

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001235

there should be a balance

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001236

between protecting

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001237

the identity

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001238

but also

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001239

a point of

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001240

where COA

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001241

based on certain clearances

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001242

can actually

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001243

ah,

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001244

take a look

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001245

at the identity

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001246

of the person

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001247

without compromising

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001248

national security

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001249

and the confidentiality

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001250

of the activity

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001251

there is also

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001252

a need

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001253

to take a look

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001254

at

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001255

ah,

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001256

storage

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001257

of the documents

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001258

ah, COA

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001259

and the other agencies

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001260

are also

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001261

taking a look

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001262

at

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001263

the process

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001264

of

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001265

issuing the

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001266

credit notices

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001267

and

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001268

how the notice

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001269

of disallowance

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001270

should actually

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001271

be dealt with

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001272

and we have

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001273

a few more

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001274

but we deem

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001275

this to be minor

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001276

but overall

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001277

ah,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001278

we discussed

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001279

the major points

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001280

that we're looking

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001281

at

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001282

reforming

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001283

the joint circular

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001284

thank you po

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001285

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001286

I don't know

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001287

how to start

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001288

Commissioner

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001289

Mallillin

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001290

and

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001291

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001292

you yourself

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001293

made mention

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001294

that this has been

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001295

around for 11 years now

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001296

and ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001297

I'm sure you're monitoring

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001298

what's happening

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001299

in the ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001300

during the impeachment

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001301

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001302

proceedings

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001303

no?

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001304

and ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001305

me as a lawyer

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001306

as a non-lawyer

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001307

would always

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001308

ask questions

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001309

sa mga abogado

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001310

ano ba yung ganito

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001311

ano ba yung ganyan

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001312

and ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001313

it's good that

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001314

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001315

you are here

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001316

because we wanted

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001317

to get more information

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001318

so we can

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001319

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001320

be adept

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001321

in

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001322

scrutinizing what has been going on. For example, the difference of disbursement or disbursing and transferring. You made mention also of the use of aliases. I'm not sure

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001323

if anyone

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001324

of

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001325

anyone

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001326

perhaps

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001327

assistant

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001328

Commissioner

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001329

Plaras

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001330

knows about this

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001331

with regard

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001332

to the AOMs

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001333

that were

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001334

issued

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001335

notice of

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001336

suspension

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001337

and

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001338

notice of

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001339

disallowance

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001340

of course

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001341

we don't

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001342

we don't

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001343

want to talk

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001344

about the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001345

the case

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001346

per se

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001347

but

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001348

but

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001349

in

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001350

in

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001351

in

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001352

in

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001353

in

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001354

this

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001355

particular

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001356

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001357

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001358

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001359

proceedings

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001360

no one

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001361

actually brought

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001362

the aliases

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001363

eh

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001364

dun sa mga

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001365

decisions

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001366

I mean

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001367

the COA

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001368

ah,

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001369

COA AOMs

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001370

NS

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001371

and

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001372

NDs

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001373

no?

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001374

but

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001375

it's really

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001376

the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001377

the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001378

the protocol

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001379

para lang alam namin

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001380

sa paggamit

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001381

ng

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001382

alias

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001383

and

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001384

your self-commissioner

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001385

may mention na

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001386

pwede mong gamitin

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001387

pero

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001388

at the same time

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001389

ah

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001390

you protect

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001391

the information

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001392

you protect

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001393

the informants

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001394

but

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001395

but

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001396

hindi po pwede

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001397

na

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001398

na para-para lang

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001399

na sasabihin mo lang

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001400

at wala kang

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001401

kahit anong

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001402

pruweba

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001403

and in this

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001404

and at this point

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001405

I wanted to ask

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001406

ano yung pruweba

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001407

ano yung

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001408

yahanapin

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001409

ng COA

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001410

would AR

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001411

suffice

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001412

when would be AR

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001413

suffice

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001414

diba?

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001415

and again

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001416

for the sake

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001417

of

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001418

the public

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001419

we are not talking about

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001420

a particular case here

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001421

we are talking about

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001422

the general

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001423

auditing

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001424

policies

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001425

in all

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001426

the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001427

intelligence

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001428

funds

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001429

na

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001430

nagsimula

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001431

noong 2015

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001432

Commissioner

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001433

yes

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001434

please

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001435

Commissioner

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001436

maganda ho yan

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001437

so it can be clarified

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001438

kasi hindi na po

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001439

hindi naman pwede sabihin

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001440

na

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001441

sa WNW

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001442

na pag sinabing

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001443

confidential

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001444

or intelligence fund

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001445

hindi na accountable

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001446

so can you

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001447

make it

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001448

can you clarify

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001449

para at least

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001450

ngayon po

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001451

mas pang malinaw na

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001452

especially now

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001453

that our policy

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001454

now in this

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001455

budget

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001456

hearings

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001457

now that we will

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001458

only

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001459

give

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001460

confidential

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001461

and intelligence fund

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001462

to those

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001463

that are involved

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001464

in law enforcement

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001465

national security

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001466

and investigations

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001467

no

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001468

and

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001469

the civilian agencies

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001470

will not be given

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001471

anymore

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001472

so siguro

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001473

just for clarity

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001474

para maklarify lang

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001475

maganda yung ano ni

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001476

Senator Villanueva

Source

Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001477

please

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001478

maraming salamat po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001479

yung tanong nyo po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001480

ang sinabi po namin

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001481

kanina is

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001482

something moving forward

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001483

if we were to revise

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001484

the joint memorandum

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001485

circular

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001486

na

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001487

tandaan ho natin

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001488

na the joint

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001489

memorandum circular

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001490

was

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001491

a draft

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001492

was drafted

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001493

by multiple agencies

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001494

po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001495

gustuhin man ho

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001496

ng COA

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001497

at the time

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001498

na

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001499

pwede wala po kami

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001500

ni chairman

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001501

nung panahon na yun

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001502

na ilagay ho lahat

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001503

ng

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001504

prueba

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001505

o substantial

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001506

documentation

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001507

we also

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001508

respected the views

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001509

of the other agencies

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001510

who dealt with

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001511

this type of

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001512

the activity

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001513

which is intelligence

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001514

and confidential

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001515

activities

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001516

but moving forward po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001517

moving forward po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001518

we find it

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001519

very important

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001520

because the

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001521

accountability

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001522

substantiation

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001523

identification

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001524

is now a critical

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001525

part of the activity

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001526

so moving forward po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001527

but ang problema

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001528

ho natin sa ngayon po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001529

without dealing

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001530

with the specifics po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001531

the present joint

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001532

memorandum circular po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001533

does not

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001534

exactly prohibit

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001535

nor does it

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001536

really

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001537

straightforwardly

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001538

allow

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001539

the use of

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001540

aliases

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001541

ang critical nga po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001542

dito is

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001543

on the part of

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001544

the operational

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001545

agencies

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001546

is

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001547

the matter of

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001548

the

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001549

program itself

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001550

behind

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001551

the confidential

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001552

expenses

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001553

or the

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001554

intelligence expenses

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001555

yun po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001556

ang nakikita namin

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001557

importante

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001558

based on the

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001559

present

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001560

drafting

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001561

of the circular

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001562

but moving forward po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001563

napapansin po namin

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001564

that further

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001565

controls

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001566

has to be

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001567

placed on this

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001568

because

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001569

if COA comes in

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001570

and looks for

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001571

certain identities

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001572

tulad ho ng

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001573

sinasabing

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001574

vault

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001575

baka ho yung

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001576

auditor ho namin

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001577

ang mapasok ko sa

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001578

vault

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001579

pero biro lang po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001580

I know

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001581

are certain

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001582

sensitivities po

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001583

regarding identity

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001584

I will not put you

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001585

on the spot

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001586

Commissioner

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001587

Mallillin

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001588

but

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001589

when I was

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001590

listening to the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001591

to the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001592

to the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001593

explanation

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001594

and

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001595

the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001596

provisions

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001597

behind the

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001598

joint memorandum

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001599

without

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001600

without going

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001601

through

Source

Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001602

or

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001603

or

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001604

or

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001605

or

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001606

I don't know

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001607

talking about

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001608

any particular case

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001609

I find it

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001610

I find it

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001611

ano eh

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001612

I think there are

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001613

some loopholes

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001614

in that particular

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001615

joint memorandum

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001616

circular

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001617

and

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001618

and you yourself

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001619

were saying

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001620

and I wanted to ask you

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001621

you think

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001622

because I strongly believe

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001623

that it should be

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001624

revisited

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001625

do you think that

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001626

it should be revisited

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001627

yes po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001628

we agree po

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001629

yeah

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001630

because there's a problem

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001631

there eh

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001632

for example

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001633

dun sa

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001634

role of a

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001635

disbursement

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001636

officer

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001637

siya ba talaga

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001638

yung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001639

tanging

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001640

nag-iisa

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001641

na magdi-disburse

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001642

lahat ng funds

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001643

sa lahat ng

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001644

informants

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001645

sa buong Pilipinas

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001646

you don't expect

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001647

I mean I don't think

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001648

COA is expecting

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001649

a

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001650

single individual

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001651

who would do that

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001652

or

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001653

pupwede ba

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001654

up to

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001655

what extent

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001656

the disbursement

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001657

officer

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001658

would be able

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001659

to delegate

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001660

dahil dun sa memorandum

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001661

hindi. And

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001662

you know, I'm also

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001663

interested on this particular

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001664

issues because

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001665

ang mga LGUs mayroon din eh.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001666

Mga local government units. And I think

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001667

you know, during

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001668

the hearings

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001669

may mga LGU officials

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001670

asking or texting me

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001671

parang takot na takot na din

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001672

sila. How do they use

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001673

their intelligence funds, etc.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001674

Yung iba ayaw na. Yung iba

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001675

sinasabi naman na hindi namin

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001676

afford na hindi gamitin.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001677

Kailangan talaga namin, etc.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001678

Sir, please.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001679

Magandang tanong ho yun.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001680

Ganito po.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001681

Sa Joint Memorandum Circular,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001682

ang requirement po,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001683

the SDO must be the one personally

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001684

to hand over the cash

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001685

dun sa recipient

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001686

dahil po at the end

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001687

End user to no?

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001687-split-2

Yes po.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001688

Exactly. Because po,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001689

magbibigay po itong

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001690

SDO ng certification

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001691

na inabot nga po niya

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001692

yung pera sa tao na to.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001693

Wala pong limitasyon

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001694

kung ilang SDO po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001695

ang pwedeng gamitin

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001696

po ng isang opisina. Kung

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001697

lokasyon po ang problema, tulad

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001698

ho nung simula po Aparri

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001699

hanggang Jolo, ang

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001700

kailangan hong bigyan,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001701

nasa head of agency o nasa ahensya

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001702

po, ang pamamaraan kung

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001703

sino ang assigned SDO.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001704

Ang importante

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001705

lang po sa SDO ay

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001706

may mga requirements po eh.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001707

Accountable officer,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001708

bonded,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001709

at ang wala naman po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001710

sinatawag tayong

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001711

ang iisa lang po pwede.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001712

Ang ginagawa po ay

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001713

to make everyone accountable.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001714

Lalong-lalong na po kung malaki-laki

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001715

ho yung pera.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001716

Iba-ibang SDO dahil iba-iba

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001717

naman po yung programa.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001718

Maraming agencies.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001719

Based with the SDOs po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001720

because ang importante po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001721

ay maparating ho yung

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001722

pondo at yung

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001723

SDO po, dapat kakilala rin po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001724

niya yung pinagbibigyan.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001725

Dahil yung magbibigay ho ng

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001726

acknowledgement receipt o yung tinatawag

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001727

naming documents evidencing

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001728

payment ay yung mismo pong

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001729

kaharap niya.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001730

Meron pa nga hong

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001731

pangalawang dokumento o libro

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001732

na nire-require sa SDO po.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001733

Hindi lang po yung tinatawag

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001734

naming acknowledgement receipt.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001735

Ito po yung, meron pong

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001736

journal requirement po yan eh

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001737

na tinatago niya, nilalagay sa vault.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001738

Nasa Joint Memorandum

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001739

Circular po.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001740

Pati si

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001741

IF.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001742

IF only.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001743

Pati sa

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001744

military.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001745

Sa military po, iba ang

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001746

proseso ng mga dokumento.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001747

Pero meron pong libro

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001748

na requirement na

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001749

sige.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001750

Yung, yun lang po.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001751

Basta, yung SDO po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001752

can be multiple.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001753

There is no limit.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001754

As long as proper management

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001755

and proper bonding and

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001756

accountability can be had.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001757

Yes, because it would be

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001758

extremely impossible

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001759

for just one person to

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001760

distribute all these

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001761

funds nationwide.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001762

So, yun.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001763

Ano ho, sa akin yun, no?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001764

Game changer yun.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001765

Yung nasabi nyo, hindi naman

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001766

kailangan isa lang.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001767

And another thing that I'd like

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001768

to ask.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001769

In the Joint Memorandum

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001770

Circular,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001771

on the issue of rewards,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001772

yung successful

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001773

dapat bago bigyan ng

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001774

reward, no?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001775

And,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001776

sa militar,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001777

sa LGUs,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001778

as a matter of policy,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001779

when you're buying an

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001780

information, definitely,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001781

you don't expect them to

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001782

give you an official receipt.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001783

Unlike if it is,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001784

medicine or

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001785

equipment

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001786

or gamit, office

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001787

equipment, no?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001788

But if you're

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001789

trying to get information,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001790

yeah, I would assume yung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001791

acknowledgement receipt is

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001792

will suffice.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001793

But,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001794

can you use it

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001795

for reward system?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001796

Because the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001797

joint circular

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001798

is very strict on the use

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001799

of the category,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001800

reward, na dapat

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001801

successful. And then, how do you define

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001802

successful? When you prevent something

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001803

from happening, a bad

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001804

thing that would happen, na prevent

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001805

ng information, etc.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001806

That's considered

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001807

successful. Pero, who would

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001808

also say na

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001809

successful?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001810

I mean, I'm sorry, I have

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001811

multiple questions there, but I think

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001812

you get my point. And I just want to be

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001813

clarified as to,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001814

what we can do and how we can

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001815

improve and

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001816

clearly explain to the public

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001817

our current policy.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001818

Thank you for

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001819

the question, po.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001820

Our present joint memorandum

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001821

circular, po, under

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001822

clause 4.8,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001823

dito po nakalista kung saan

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001824

pwedeng gastusin ang confidential funds.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001825

Magkaibang

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001826

magkaiba po ang purchase

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001827

of information. Ito po yung

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001828

unang paragraph, yung unang numero.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001829

Yung payment of

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001830

rewards to informers, kakaibang

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001831

gastus po.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001832

Pag tinignan po nyo yung payment

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001833

to informants,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001834

simpleng-simple lang po ito.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001835

Kailangan lang po ito para

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001836

pag-formulate ng programa,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001837

mga aktividades at mga proyekto

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001838

for the national

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001839

security and for peace and order.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001840

Pag reward po ang pinag-uusapan

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001841

po natin, kakaiba.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001842

Pag sinabi po natin reward,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001843

may kaakibat na success.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001844

At mas mahigpit po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001845

ang pag-audit ng reward.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001846

Ang sinasabi po,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001847

the moment we pay rewards to

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001848

informers,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001849

ang unang condition po, hindi po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001850

pwedeng empleyado ito ng ahensya.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001851

So dapat po

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001852

outside the agency.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001853

Ang pangalawang condition po,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001854

dapat approve po ito

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001855

ng ulo ng ahensya or the head

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001856

of the agency,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001857

and if it is a GOCC,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001858

yung chairman po ng kanyang

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001859

board. Yung pangalawang

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001860

requirement po, it is

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001861

supported with documents

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001862

evidencing the success of the

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001863

information gathering and

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001864

surveillance activities.

Source

COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001865

Hindi ho ito limitado

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001866

sa pag-aresto,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001867

dahil kaya nga ho nabigan na reward.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001868

Hindi kailangan na makonvict

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001869

bago may bigay reward.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001870

Importante lang po, may positibong

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001871

nangyari, at

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001872

yung reward, kaya ho inaabot.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001873

Pag wala pa hong

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001874

success, assuming gusto

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001875

lang ho natin ayusin

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001876

yung programa o yung confidential

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001877

activity, hindi po reward yun.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001878

Payment of information.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001879

Explain further yung third

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001880

ninyo.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001881

Yung binanggit po ninyo, I'm sorry,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001882

I might not be able to catch

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001883

some phrases you mentioned. Dun sa third,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001884

yung sa una, yung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001885

success, not an employee, head of

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001886

the agency approving the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001887

reward.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001888

And then yung third?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001889

Yung third?

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001890

It must be supported

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001891

with documents evidencing

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001892

the success of the information

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001893

gathering or surveillance

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001894

activities on account

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001895

of the information given by

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001896

the informer.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001897

So, kailangan

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001898

may preba ng success.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001899

Kung very general po yung

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001900

wording ng success,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001901

medyo

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001902

proof there. Diyan sa

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001903

latest

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001904

statement, the proof there would be

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001905

nothing happened.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001906

Sabihin lang po natin, we're looking at

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001907

PDEA.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001908

Nag-surveillance.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001909

Binigyan ho niyan,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001910

nung una, nagbigay ho siya ng

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001911

payment for information.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001912

So, based on that,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001913

may natiktikan po silang

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001914

let's say po, courier or

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001915

pusher.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001916

The moment po, based on that information,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001917

nahuli po yung pusher.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001918

Ang mangyayari po dyan,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001919

so, may payment

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001920

of success,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001921

ang preba ho could be affidavits

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001922

of arrest of police

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001923

personnel,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001924

detention, mga litrato

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001925

po na nangyari to nung panahon

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001926

na to, nahuli to dahil sa

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001927

impormasyon na to.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001928

Hindi, kung

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001929

acknowledgement receipt lang po ang binigay natin

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001930

for reward, it will

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001931

not comply po with this.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001932

So, ang mangyayari

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001933

ho dyan, disallowed ho kaagad, dahil

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001934

hindi ho napatunayan

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001935

yung success.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001936

In that particular situation and

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001937

example that you have given us,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001938

kahit hindi mahuli, pero

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001939

nalaman, natuntun, this is the same

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001940

group that they are after, kahit

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001941

hindi nahuli, nakatakas, pero alam,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001942

tama yung information na nakuha,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001943

that's, ano, pwedeng

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001944

bigyan ng reward yun.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001945

Magkakaroon po ng documentation ngayon

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001946

na natunugan yung

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001947

grupo.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001948

Tapos, sabihin ho natin,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001949

surveillance.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001950

Yes.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001950-split-2

At the same time po,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001951

magkakaroon ng mga dokumento

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001952

ho yan. But, importante

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001953

yung dokumento na yun. May pang-apat po.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001954

It must be

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001955

directly related to the conduct

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001956

of the specific confidential

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001957

activities of authorized agencies.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001958

Kaya nga po, kung titinan ho nyo

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001959

yung kabuuan ng confidential

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001960

activities, meron ho ang proposal

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001961

which is the program.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001962

Ang kasunod po nun ay,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001963

ito, mandato ng ahensya.

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001964

Ang kasunod po nun,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001965

kung hindi po konektado at napakalayo

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001966

naman po,

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001967

we might be violating po, the last

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001968

condition for payment of

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COA Commissioner Douglas Michael N. Mallillin

asr-001969

rewards po.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001970

Related to their programs or advocacies

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001971

or mandate of the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001972

agency.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001973

Thank you.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001974

Mr. Chairman, if I will go to

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001975

another topic,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-001976

if we...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001977

Meron lang ano, singit lang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001978

Senator Villanueva, your indulgence.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001979

Question from media, ano na daw

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001980

ang status ni COA Commissioner

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001981

Mario Lipana na sumabit

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001982

din sa flood control scandal?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001983

Update lang, and then si Senator Villanueva na.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001984

Yeah, Mr. Chair,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001985

Senator Villanueva, si

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001986

si ano po, si Commissioner Lipana

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001987

is naka-leave po siya

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001988

because of medical...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001989

Pero matagal na, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001990

Medyo matagal na yung kanyang condition, no?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001991

Yes, pero sometimes po,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001992

pumapasok naman siya, sometimes hindi.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001993

Because he goes to

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001994

Singapore po ata for

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001995

for treatment.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001996

Up to when is the authorized na no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-001997

Yung kanyang medical leave?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001998

I just don't have the

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-001999

details. Pero

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002000

hanggang next week.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002001

Hanggang next week po, your honors.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002002

September 7 po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002003

September 9, sorry. So it's September 9.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002004

You know, I...

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002005

It's kind of

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002006

something that

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002007

is very dear to my heart, itong

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002008

flood control

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002009

issues, especially in my

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002010

beloved province.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002011

And Senator JV would attest to this.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002012

I have been raising this particular issue

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002013

for quite

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002014

some time since 2020.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002015

And every year, and just recently,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002016

I stood again in the plenary to

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002017

deliver a privileged speech on this particular

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002018

topic. I am not

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002019

in any way

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002020

leaving.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002021

On this particular topic

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002022

because this is one of the main reasons

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002023

why I run for the Senate.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002024

And unfortunately,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002025

ito nga ho yung nangyari.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002026

Just recently, baha ho

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002027

sa loob mismo ng bahay namin,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002028

Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002029

And it's getting worse.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002030

Yung mga lugar na...

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002031

Ako, maniwala

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002032

kahit sa hindi, 50 anos na ako.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002033

Pero in 50 years, di ko pa

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002034

nakitang pinasok yung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002035

ilang mga lugar sa amin,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002036

aming probinsya. So, this is

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002037

the worst. I am

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002038

telling you, this is the worst.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002039

Of course, hindi lang

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002040

ang sinisisi natin

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002041

yung flood control projects.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002042

Merong issue ng

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002043

basura, may issue ng

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002044

global warming,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002045

etc. Siyempre, main yung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002046

flood control

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002047

projects. And I've been

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002048

sounding like a broken

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002049

record. Palpak yung mga

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002050

flood control projects.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002051

I can show you all the

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002052

TSNs here. In this particular

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002053

room, ilang beses na nag-hearing dito.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002054

Paulit-ulit po ako.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002055

Hindi integrated yung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002056

walang master plan, hindi integrated,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002057

etc. So, ang tatanong ko sa COA,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002058

I remember na

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002059

kayo po ay nagko-conduct

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002060

ng mga fraud audits

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002061

sa, particularly ho,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002062

sa probinsya namin. And

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002063

please, no holds barred po ito.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002064

Pwede nyo po bang sabihin kung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002065

ano ho yung naging resulta?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002066

Pwede nyo rin sabihin, kahit sa

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002067

harap ni Chairman JV, hindi po ako

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002068

mahihiya sabihin kung

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002069

si Joel Villanueva ba

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002070

kasama dyan sa mga projects

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002071

ng flood control,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002072

sa mga nakita po ng COA.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002073

I don't know if this has been

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002074

publicized already. Mr. Chairman,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002075

if we can, thank you.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002076

Thank you, Mr. Chairman,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002077

Senator Villanueva.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002078

Okay, i-reiterate ko lang po

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002079

yung reason kung ba't sa Bulacan po kami

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002080

nag-start.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002081

98 billion or 18%

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002082

of the total worth of

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002083

flood control projects implemented by

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002084

DPWH from 2022 to 2025

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002085

ay sa Bulacan po napunta.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002086

18, almost 20%.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002087

And then, ah sorry, region 3

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002088

po pala, region 3.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002089

Yes, opo. And then

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002090

almost 50% of that

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002091

or 45% to be exact

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002092

ay nasa Bulacan po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002093

So, dun po talaga kami

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002094

nag-concentrate. So, as of

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002095

today, nagkaroon po kami

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002096

ng...

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002097

How many projects? Kung ilan po ito?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002097-split-2

Marami po ito.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002098

Marami.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002099

Marami po ito. But so far

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002100

ang fraud audit po namin, tuloy-tuloy

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002101

naman.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002102

So far, nasa almost 50 na po kami.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002103

Almost 50.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002104

And then, iba-iba po yung nakita namin.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002105

But marami po sa kanila talagang defective or non-existent.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002106

So, yun po ang aming naging conclusion doon sa fraud audit.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002107

So, we issued notice of disallowances.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002108

And we already submitted this to the Office of the Ombudsman.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002109

Dati po, nung nandiyan pa po yung ICI, we submitted the ICI to the Office of the Ombudsman also.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002110

Now, doon po kasi sa mga NDs that we issued and sa flood control projects,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002111

meron po kasi dyan tinatawag na persons liable.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002112

So, makikita po namin, we can submit it to you, we can submit it to the Honorable Finance Committee.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002113

At makikita po nyo yung mga persons liable, nandoon naman po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002114

It's really the DPWH people yung po nag-i-implement.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002115

Because it's the budget of the DPWH and it's their personnel po sa Bulacan.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002116

Wala naman po si Sen. Joel doon at hindi naman siya implement or he's a legislator.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002117

Would you know if there are projects being pushed by politicians in these particular areas na inaudit ninyo?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002118

Wala po kaming nakikita eh.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002119

But what we see is yung implementing agency which is the DPWH po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002120

Nasa JA po kasi yun.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002121

Can we also ask, dito sa 50 fraudulent, I mean 50 fraud audits, yung breakdown po binabanggit nyo,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002122

some were ghosts, some were, do we have a breakdown already?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002123

Kung ilan doon yung talagang ghosts, yung ilan doon yung substandard, extremely substandard materials yung ginamit?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002124

We don't have it right now but we can submit po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002125

So far po, majority po, wala po siya.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002126

With the indulgence of Sen. Villanueva, siguro Chairman Lielo, we would like to, can you submit to the committee

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002127

yung list ng inyo pong investigation on which projects are found to be irregular, yung pong may ghosts,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002128

or basta hindi po substandard because our policy right now in this budget hearings is to resume flood

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002129

control projects to complete the uncompleted ones.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002130

Kasi nakita naman natin ang naging epekto ngayon.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002131

Because for 2026 talagang ziniro, flood control, ang nangyari tuloy talagang may mga puwang, may mga gaps, mga uncompleted.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002132

So which were said, kasi naipon mo yung tubig pero puwapasok naman yung tubig.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002133

So our instruction is also to complete the uncompleted projects, tapusin yung mga dapat tapusin, close the gap,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002134

but we would want a list of these projects which we would, yung inyo pong nag-undergo ng investigation

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002135

which are found to be fraudulent, yung pong substandard para po sa amin pong pag-review

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002136

and then we will only allow those uncompleted projects that are not irregular or fraudulent.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002137

So we appreciate the submission of this investigation.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002138

We commit to submit that, Your Honor.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002139

Lahat po ng aming fraud audit reports, we'll also summarize it po para po mas madali makita.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002140

And at the same time, we'll also submit the report na comprehensive per item.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002141

Idagdag ko lang din po na as early as 2016, Your Honors, the Commission Audit in charge of the DPWH

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002142

has already issued an observation po na wala po kasing...

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002143

master plan yung pong paggawa ng pong flood control.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002144

So kumbaga po kanya-kanya po siya, but I think it has to be closed.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002145

Tama po kayo, nagkaroon ng gaps eh.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002146

So kasi po wala master plan.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002147

So there has to be a master plan and para lahat po nakasarado.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002148

Otherwise po, ang nangyari po kasi...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002149

Sir, I'm a witness. My colleague here has been ranting about this year in and year out ever since 3-4 years ago.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002150

Ang problema talaga, we were going back.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002151

I had a post 2014 on the importance of a master plan for all projects.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002152

Hindi lang flood control, but I have been advocating a master plan for infrastructure and national development

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002153

which would include transport modernization, yung sa power, sa energy.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002154

Kasaba na rin po yung water management and flood control.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002155

Ang nangyari dito...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002156

Ang nangyari dito...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002157

Siguro, Chairman Liel, yung ibang projects, sorry na lang po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002158

Kahit walang Regional Development Council approval, kahit wala sa master plan, kahit walang convergence, kahit hindi kailangan,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002159

talagang isinagawa para pagkakitaan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002160

Mukhang gano'n na lumalabas, lalo rin sa mga nag-ghost.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002161

So in order, I think we would need your [unclear].

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002162

You'll be a big factor in how we will be able to bring back that confidence

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002163

and trust, especially in this budget season, by providing us with this list.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002164

Yung pong hinihingi na api kanina.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002165

Tsaka yung pong, siguro yung pong isa tungkol sa master plan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002166

Do you think, Chairman Liel, that in case we push itong talagang may master plan pa,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002167

this will definitely prevent occurrence of projects that are not needed and are intended only to, alam nyo na,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002168

to enrich some people's pockets.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002169

Hindi kailangan eh.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002170

So what are what we want now?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002171

We want RDC approval or at least a provincial approval to make sure that these projects are needed.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002172

Hindi yung basta lang po project eh para pagkakitaan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002173

So I'm asking your guidance also and what you think na amin pong sinasagawa.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002174

Ito po yung hinihingi natin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002175

RDC approval, program of works, tapos basta po nasa flood-prone, top 10 flood-prone provinces

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002176

or it can be used as justification.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002177

There are 18 major river basins in the absence of a master plan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002178

So siguro these are the considerations that we would have in order for us to approve flood control projects this time.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002179

So yung pong ano namin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002180

Siguro, ano na po, your thoughts, Chairperson?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002181

We agree po, Your Honors.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002182

Actually, sabi ko nga po sa inyo, as early as 2016, nag-issue na po ng observation ng Commission on Audit on that.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002183

And just to mention...

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002184

I understand when you were mayor po of San Juan, kasi dati po ang San Juan binabahat.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002185

So I think when you were there, marami po kayong nagawa, kaya po nabawasan ito ng...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002186

Actually, siguro, if flood control, if done right, can really be effective.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002187

Not to...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002188

Hindi ko naman siya inaangat sa sarili.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002189

But you know, ano to, sinasabi ko, Sen. Villanueva, ano yung sa Navotas,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002190

under, ano to, below sea level.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002191

Pero by placing strategic pumping stations in strategic areas, natanggal nila Toby Tiangco yung baha.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002192

Naginaya po namin sa San Juan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002193

We have about five or six barangays that are low-lying areas.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002194

Basin, na kahit dalawang linggo nang walang ulan, baha pa rin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002195

Dati, 15 to 20 feet, ang lalim.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002196

Pero ngayon, halos na wala.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002197

Unfortunately, may isa na lang doon na naiwan, na inirata.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002198

Na nirequest ko kay Bonoan at kay Bernardo noon na hindi pinagbigyan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002199

Ayaw kasi nung congressman namin dahil ayaw nung mayor.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002200

So may isa na lang doon nababaha.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002201

Kung meron, yun na lang yung naiwan doon.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002202

So sabi ako, nagkiusap ko sa DPWH sila na kung ano pa mangyari, basta gawin nyo na lang.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002203

So thank you for that, for yung pong sa San Juan na mention nyo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002204

And I think it was the Navotas that we followed.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002205

Naging yung Bombastik pumps nila na kami pong ginaya.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002206

Thank you.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002207

Sige po, please continue.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002208

San Juan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002209

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002210

And let me put on record that I am a living testimony of what you have been espousing here in the Senate.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002211

And since the time you were the mayor of the great city of San Juan, yung pinupush po ninyo na master plan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002212

At you're not only supporting me with the master plan ng flood control.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002213

But yun nga po, ako, lagi akong supportive doon sa mga gusto nyo yung mga infrastructure projects,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002214

especially doon sa transportation, sa railways, etc.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002215

Kaya mapalad kayo, Senator JV, at nagawan ng paraan yung San Juan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002216

At kami hanggang ngayon sa Bulacan, still suffering.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002217

Literally, figuratively, physically, mentally, and sometimes spiritually.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002218

Mr. Chairman, just to put on record, Mr. Chairman, and I'd like to give this information to our COA family headed by Chairman Cordoba.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002219

Yung po sa amin sa Bulacan, for example, doon sa Paumbong, sa Paumbong, sa Barangay Cruz,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002220

tsaka Barangay Masukol, eh hindi na po baha yung problema nila.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002221

Kasi nasanay na po sila.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002222

Na hanggang dibdib, lagpas tao, at kahit summer, bumabaha po sa kanila.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002223

Ang problema po nila ngayon, unti-unti nang kinakain nung dagat, yung lupa, nung barangay.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002224

Itong Barangay Santa Cruz, tsaka Barangay Masukol, about 3,000 siguro yung mga residents po dyan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002225

At unfortunately, sabi nga nila, hindi na yung baha problema namin.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002226

Kasi kinakain na ng lupa, mabuburan na kami sa mapa.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002227

Ganon din po yung kalagayan sa Hagonoy, Bulacan, sa Barangay Pugad at Barangay Tibagin.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002228

Ano naman yung nangyari dito sa dalawang barangay na ito?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002229

Before the fiasco, before this erupted, the kasuklam-suklam na mga pangyayari about flood control,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002230

meron pong breakwater at seawall dyan sa dalawang barangay na yan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002231

Meron na po siya.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002232

Pero dahil gagawin at palalakihin, patitibayin, i-strengthenin yung seawall, binakbak na po nila.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002233

Sisimulan na eh, gagawin na po.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002234

Nung gagawin na po, natigil lahat ngayon ng flood control.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002235

So ano nangyari?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002236

Nung binakbak, nasira lalo dahil bawal ang flood control, dahil maraming siraulong kurakot na dapat dyan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002237

Talagang ako, fight ako sa firing squad eh, sa mga taong ganyan eh.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002238

Eh, hindi po ginawa.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002239

Nung hindi po ginawa, hanggang ngayon ho, ilang taon na, na wala ho ni Pondo or anything, Mr. Chairman, wala ho at hindi na gagawa.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002240

Nagsimula na rin pong kainin ng dagat yung lupa.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002241

To cut the story short, ito hong mga barangay na ito, sa barangay Paumbong,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002242

at barangay...

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002243

Ah, dun po sa bayan ng Paumbong, barangay Santa Cruz, barangay Masukol,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002244

sa Hagunoy, barangay Pugat, barangay Tibagin, sa Hagunoy.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002245

Eh, hindi na po problema nila yung ba.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002246

Ang problema nila, mawawala na po sa mapa yung kanilang mga barangay.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002247

There's one in barangay, Mr. Chairman, in Hagunoy,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002248

na I have to call the attention of the DPWH Secretary because

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002249

I forgot the name of barangay.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002250

I think Santa Cruz also.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002251

In Hagunoy, meron naman po doon kasama doon sa problema na may kaso.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002252

And according to them, may gate po eh, may gate.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002253

Hindi ho magamit yung gate. Bumabaha na po.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002254

Dahil ang sabi lang daw ay hindi po pwedeng galawin yan dahil may kaso yan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002255

The good thing, I don't know the real situation and ayokong makialam doon sa mga kaso-kasong ganyan

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002256

dahil ngayon pag nakialam,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002257

kaya nadadamay ka eh.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002258

Si Secretary Vince, nagutos right away, the next day ho, naggalaw po yung gate.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002259

I don't know kung nakipag-coordinate po yata sa COA or other agencies in the government.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002260

But thanks to Sec. Vince, naggalaw po yun.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002261

Malaking naging ginhawa.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002262

Kasi imagine, yung gate lang, ibababa lang po, di ba?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002263

Dahil lang daw po may kaso, hindi po ginawa.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002264

So, nag-suffer yung buong barangay.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002265

Yun lang po yung mga maliliit na bagay na gano'n.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002266

And I hope, ang COA naman natin, hindi naman in the box yan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002267

I don't think yung COA natin, extremist yung mga COA auditors natin

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002268

para yung mga ganitong bagay na ito, hindi matulungan yung mga kababayan po natin.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002269

So, yun lang po, Mr. Chairman, gusto kong ipaabot sa ating mga kasama sa COA

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002270

na malaking tulong ang kailangan ng mga kababayan natin.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002271

Lalo na po doon sa mga apektado ng baha.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002272

Dahil nakakasunog ang apoy, hindi na po tayo magluluto at papatayin natin sa gutom yung ating mga kababayan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002273

I'm really not happy na wala hong flood control the past year program kahit na ito'y nararapat.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002274

And records will bail me out.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002275

Hindi ako sumuporta sa mga flood control programs because hindi ko nakikita na ito'y integrated

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002276

at may master plan.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002277

That's the only reason.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002278

And these committees in the Senate, mga senador nakasama ko at mga nakatrabaho ko,

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002279

alam po yung dahilan kung bakit ganito yung aking adhikain dito sa usapin nito.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002280

Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002281

Thank you, Senator Villanueva.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002282

Actually, sa totoo lang, that's why we wanted also to resume the flood control projects.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002283

The uncompleted one, that is.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002284

Because we have seen that...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002285

Dito sa monsoon rains, wala pa ngang bagyo ito.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002286

Tuloy-tuloy na ulan, lubog ang Metro Manila, lubog ang Bulacan, lubog ang Pampanga, hanggang Tarlac.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002287

So, ano eh.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002288

Well, iba na rin talaga yung climate change.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002289

But still, we need to resume the flood-mitigating projects, especially the complete, the uncompleted.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002290

Siguro wala namang masama roon, Chairman, di ba, as long as these projects are not found to be irregular or substandard.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002291

I think this will be more beneficial as it would prevent the further suffering of the people in Bulacan and Pampanga and even Metro Manila and Tarlac.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002292

At least kung ma-mitigate natin, mabawasan natin yung pagbabaha, masara natin yung gaps, kasi mas masama yung may puwang eh.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002293

Tubig yan. Maghahanap talaga ng papasukan yan.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002294

Tapos pinipigilan mo namang mawala yung tubig para mawala yung baha.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002295

So parang naging ano siya.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002296

So ang ano natin is to close the gaps.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002297

And also, if I would, magsimula tayo, Senator Villanueva, yung NIA and DPWH.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002298

Dapat dito,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002299

in the absence of a master plan, convergence na.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002300

And then sa taas pa lang dapat meron nang water impounding.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002301

Tapos nakaano yan ng flood control, water impounding.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002302

Kasi pag tag-ulan, sobra-sobra ulan natin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002303

Pag tagtuyot naman, walang-wala tayo, di ba?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002304

So I think we should change yung view, yung view eh na yung tubig hindi dapat perwisyo.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002305

Dapat treated as a resource.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002306

Pero gawin natin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002307

Kailangan natin ng tamang flood water management, I think.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002308

Yun ang atin pong direksyon, di ba?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002309

Sige, Chairperson Cordoba.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002310

Thank you for, salamat po sa lahat ng binanggit ninyo.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002311

Actually po, Your Honors, if may mga kailangan po na i-cover sila DPWH,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002312

kagaya po nung binabanggit ninyo, kasi may kaso, hindi pwedeng gawin.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002313

Kung kailangan po, we're willing to sit down on an item per item with the DPWH.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002314

And actually, we're doing it po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002315

Pagka po may mga question sila,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002316

tinutulungan namin sila para

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002317

magawa po nila kahit po may mga pending na kaso, pending na mga legalities.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002318

But importante po yung public service ay tuloy-tuloy.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002319

Hindi po siya dapat huminto.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002320

Salamat po.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002321

One last issue.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002322

If there's nothing more about the flood control program.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002323

Tinitingnan ko lang po kasi itong COA's Technical Services and Systems Audit Subprogram

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002324

that targets only 18 ISIT audit or

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002325

evaluation reports in 2027. Is that level of coverage sufficient given government's accelerating digitalization

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002326

and growing cybersecurity and information system risk?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002327

Nakita ko lang ho yung 2027 target, 18 ISIT audit or evaluation reports.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002328

Sandali lang po.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002329

Sige, please.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002330

Yes, sorry.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002331

We just want to be clarified on this, how it prioritizes systems for audit and whether existing personnel

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002332

and technology ay sufficient po dito to cover yung high-risk government information systems?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002333

Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair, Sen. Villanueva.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002334

Si Ascom Isidro po ang sasagot po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002335

Thank you.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002336

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Sen. Villanueva.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

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Please proceed.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002338

We have an office called the Internal Information Technology Audit Office under the Systems and Technical Services sector that does the IS audit and IT technical evaluation of procurement contracts and other contracts.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002339

At present, we have only 64 warm bodies.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002340

But ideally, the office needs 164 manpower with an existing approved plantelia of 81 plantelia positions.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002341

And these 64 warm bodies consist of auditors and administrative personnel, including...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002342

We also have...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

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Certified Information Systems Auditor.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

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We have Public Procurement Specialist, Certified Fraud Examiner, Certified Public Accountants, and other disciplines consisting the office.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002345

So ito, magandang problema yata ito, kasi you have 64 but you have 81 available.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002346

Tama ba yung pagkakaintindi ko, ma?am?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002347

Yes po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002348

Yes po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002349

Per our record, ma?am.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002350

Pero hindi ninyo ma-fill up at the same problem that you are talking about?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002351

For the Information Systems Auditors, there is a certain criteria that need to be satisfied.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002352

Like, they need to be...

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002353

I'm sure. I was the head of agency before.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002354

So hindi ma-satisfy yun, kaya hindi ma-fill up?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lucila M. Isidro

asr-002355

At present po, hindi po ma-satisfy po.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002356

Yun yung dahilan kung bakit

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002357

ko tinatanong yung questions ko kanina.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002358

Is there a way that we can somehow adjust?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002359

Yun talaga kasi yung kailangan?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002360

At wala talaga tayong makikita?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002361

Hahanap ba tayo sa Milky Way Galaxy?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002362

Mag-train tayo sa TESDA?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002363

Your Honor, it's really...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002364

We are...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002365

We are...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002366

Dependent po kasi talagang sa compliance ng administrative rules ng civil service.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002367

So, kaya nga po kasi nasa standardization law po kami under.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002368

So, we really need to follow yung system ranking oppositions.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002369

So, hindi po kami ka...

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002370

Yung higher levels po kasi, for example,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002371

as yung entry level is so low,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002372

pero you cannot hire po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002373

Maglulundag ka ng salary grades kasi that is against dun sa administrative rules po ng civil service.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002374

And that will be addressed dun sa binabanggit ni Chairman na panukalang batas na ipupush po namin.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002375

Yes po.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002376

If we are to be exempted sa standardization.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002377

Because otherwise, kahit ilang Pasko yung dumating, hindi ninyo ma-fill up-an.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002378

Yes, even po na meron ka talagang qualified.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002379

Yan yung mga hinaharap.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabochan

asr-002380

At the bottom, hindi ko po makakapag more than three salary grades.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002381

I got that. I know where you're coming from.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002382

I experienced that personally when I was with TESDA.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002383

Anyway, one last.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002384

Yung financial management, nakita ko lang COA's own 2025 audit.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002385

You identified accounting deficiencies involving approximately 5.1 billion pesos.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002386

What accounts for the scale of...

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002387

of these deficiencies, and what corrective measures?

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002388

May independent audit eh, in-identify various accounting deficiencies totaling 5.1 billion.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002389

The amount does not by itself mean funds siguro that were lost or misused.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002390

But it is significant enough to perhaps get an explanation what this is.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002391

I got this from our LBRMO.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002392

Sa page 17, number 4.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002393

Various accounting deficiencies noted amounted to 5.101 billion as at year-end.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002394

LBRMO. Dito po, sa Senado po ito.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002395

Kaya nung nakita ko, sabi ko i-raise ko ito eh.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002396

You're not aware of this?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002397

Hindi po, your honor.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002398

Okay.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002399

Okay, I'll set it.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002400

This is part of the audit report ng COA.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002401

Audit observation number 4.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002402

But anyway, I will just furnish a copy nito.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002403

Thank you.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002404

Just wanted to make sure that we'll be able to clarify this.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002405

Kasi nagulat lang ako dun sa 5 billion eh.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002406

I'm sure wala namang meaning where they're...

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002407

May misuse or loss of funds.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002408

It's just that I think we need to explain this further

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002409

para lang maset natin yung high standards ng COA.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002410

Salamat, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002411

That will be all.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002412

And again, let me put on record my sincerest thanks and gratitude

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002413

to the men and women of COA for your service.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002414

And most of all, I'd like to put on record my full support

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002415

for the...

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002416

approval of this briefing so that we can proceed

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002417

for plenary action of their budget, Mr. Chairman.

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Senator Joel Villanueva

asr-002418

Thank you.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002419

Thank you, Senator Villanueva, for your support

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002420

to our Commission on Audit.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002421

Alam mo, ang hirap ng Commission on Audit,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002422

ang tingin sa mga auditor, madalas, kontrabida eh.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002423

Parang pag nakikita ito, lalo ng mga LG,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002424

nako, ito na naman ito, mga kontrabida.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002425

But you know, this...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002426

Auditors, state auditors, provide the checks and balances.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002427

Make sure that money is well spent in government, diba?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002428

Kaya kailangan namin kayo dito, especially in our...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002429

in our trust to bring back the confidence of people in government, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002430

Na napakalaking bagay, lalo na dito sa ating budgeting.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002431

Before we end, I would like to ask some questions from our...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002432

kasi iniinvolve namin yung civil society organizations, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002433

So that...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002434

Ito mga watchdogs can help us because we cannot...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002435

Sabi ko, it's humanly impossible for us to appreciate everything

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002436

in so short a time during the budget season, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002437

Gabundok yung ibang volumes yun na pinapadala, line items.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002438

So we are involving the civil society organizations, watchdogs,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002439

and everybody else.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002440

Pag may nakita sila na irregular, to let us know

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002441

so that we can already confront the agencies, no?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002442

So ito po, from the CSO,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002443

naging concerned po ng maraming CSOs and groups

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002444

na nagmo-monitor ng budget process sa mga nakaraang taon

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002445

ang delays ng publication ng COA's annual audit reports,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002446

particularly for the fiscal year 2023

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002447

at sa ibang agency sa fiscal year 2024.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002448

To address this under Section 107 of the 2026 GAA

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002449

sets an October 31 deadline for the publication of annual audit reports.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002450

Ang tanong, kumusta po ang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002451

implementation nito? Have all fiscal year 2024

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002452

annual audit reports already been published on your website?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002453

Published na po. Okay. Complete.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002454

Ito pong, is it on track to make all 2025 naman po

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002455

audit reports available by October 31.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002456

Okay, so ongoing.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002457

Idagdag ko lang po, Mr. Chair.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002458

Kasi nung 2023 for 2024, nakalagay po kasi sa GAA na December,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002459

end of December po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002460

Last day. Kaya po, na-delay din talaga.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002461

So ngayon, October 31 na?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002462

October 31 na po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002463

Sa follow-up, Chairman, would it be feasible for COA

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002464

to publish the annual audit reports earlier?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002465

Ang request nila, July 30,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002466

so that Congress will have sufficient time to consider the audit findings.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002467

Kasi during the budget process, wala pa yung ano nyo, October 31.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002468

So, ang ano lang nila, kung kaya yung July 31,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002469

para po meron silang time to consider the audit findings.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002470

During the budget process, is it feasible?

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002471

Sir, pursuant to Section 107 of the GAA 2027,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002472

may requirement kasi po, upon the receipt of the annual audit report

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002473

by the audited agency, required sila to submit the status of actions taken

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002474

on the audit observations and memorandum.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002475

So within 60 days, isasabit nila yan doon sa COA for

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002476

for the publication together with the annual audit report.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002477

So, June 30 ang deadline of the transmittal plus 60.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002478

So, talagang, tapos gagawin pa yan ng COA,

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002479

iko-confirm pa yan, i-evaluate.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002480

So, talagang October 31?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002481

Sige, Chairman.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002482

Ang ginagawa naman po namin, as soon as matapos,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002483

kasi hindi naman po sabay-sabay,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002484

as soon as matapos, pinapadala po namin agad sa inyo pong office.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002485

So, may mga hard copies po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002486

So, pinapauna na po namin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002487

That would help a lot, especially during the budget process.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002488

Pinapadala po namin agad.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002489

Basta po matapos, hindi lang po sabay-sabay.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002490

As it comes lang po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002491

We sent it to...

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002492

Kinaaano kasi nila concerning availability raw sa public.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002493

So, if we can make it earlier nalang siguro, the earliest possible time.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002494

Yung kaya lang naman po.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002495

COA describes the citizen participatory audit as a mechanism

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002496

that brings citizens and civil society organizations into the audit process.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002497

Nagamit na rin ito natin.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002498

In previous audits, including in relation to the flood control master plan sa Kamanawa area.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002499

For 2027, COA requested 40.7 million for CPA requirements under Tier 2,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002500

but this was not included in the NEP.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002501

So, on follow-up, we have also received reports that in the past engagements,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002502

that citizen partners may be receiving only 250 pesos in logistical support.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002503

Can COA confirm whether this is accurate?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002504

Is that 250?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002505

Provided per day, proactively, or to the entire audit engagement?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002506

Na-increase na po yan, Your Honor.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002507

But actually nga po, nasimulan na po namin yan.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002508

Yan po binabanggit ko sa inyo kanina,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002509

na one of the observations po na nakita doon sa citizen participatory

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002510

audit

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002511

ayun pong wala pong master plan.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002512

So, actually po,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002513

malaking bagay po yan because para po siyang

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002514

aming multiplier po ng tao

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002515

and there would be people

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002516

on the ground na makakatulong po sa amin.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002517

But hindi po lang sinama

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002518

this year, ah, for next year.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002519

But, tuloy-tuloy

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002520

naman po kami.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002521

Kung hindi po ma-restore yung

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002522

40 million, 40.7 million

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002523

sa mga planned CPA engagements ang mababawasan,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002524

maantala, or hindi matutuloy?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002525

Ah, sige.

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002526

Hindi naman po, sir. We will

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002527

get that from our regular

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002528

MOOE. Kaya medyo

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002529

malaki. Especially this

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002530

year, we already disbursed

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002531

10 million for the CPA

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COA Assistant Commissioner Nilda B. Plaras

asr-002532

all over the regions.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002533

So, paano po pinipili?

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002534

Last na po ito sa mga civil,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002535

from the CSOs. Paano po pinipili ng COA

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002536

ang civil society partners nito

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002537

at ano ang safeguards para

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002538

masiguro na hindi maapektuhan ang

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002539

independence and integrity

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002540

of audit?

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002541

Actually, there's an office

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002542

in the COA that

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002543

does this po, ano,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002544

invitation po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002545

And, actually po,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002546

ang may mga,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002547

meron naman po yan mga, what's this,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002548

criteria, and then

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002549

in coordination naman po yan with

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002550

the NGOs

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002551

and

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002552

yung pong mga

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002553

civil society groups po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002554

Nagpapatulong po kami.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002555

Actually nga po, ang isang inisip namin

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002556

would be,

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002557

through the CBCP po.

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COA Chairperson Gamaliel A. Cordoba

asr-002558

Jonas.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002559

Okay, so that's about it.

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002560

Since there's no more queries

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002561

from our colleagues,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002562

siguro,

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Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito

asr-002563

I'll solicit a motion from my

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colleague to

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have the budget of the commission

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audit be submitted.

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Yes, Mr. Chairman, at this

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juncture, again, let me reiterate my

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full support to the budget of

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COA

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with the caveat of

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moving also if they need

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additional assistance, but then

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I can see a lot of

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challenges that they

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are facing and it will also be

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addressed by

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exempting them from

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salary standardization. So with that,

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Mr. Chairman, I move that we

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consider the budget of

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COA

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for approval for plenary action.

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I so move, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you. So,

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there's a motion by

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Senator Villanueva

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for the budget of the commission audit

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to be submitted for the plenary

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consideration subject to

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discussion and submission of documents requested.

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So, since there's no objection,

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it is hereby approved. And the

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committee chair would like to thank everyone, especially

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our esteemed resource persons,

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Chairman Gamaliel Cordoba,

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our assistant commissioners,

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the whole COA family.

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Minsan, okay lang maging,

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kailangan din ang kontrabida sa buong

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buhay. Yan ang

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check and balance

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ng ating pong gobyerno at nagpapanatiling

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malinis ating gobyerno.

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Huwag na sobrang.

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This briefing is hereby suspended.

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Thank you, gentlemen and ladies

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of COA. Thank you. Maraming salamat po.